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The mask
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By LuckoDull
February 21, 2007 08:13 AM | Link to this
The Ghost of Paranoia Past?:
If we’re looking for other people to drag into this travesty of justice, I got some ideas:
So here are my own personal bills of indictment: THIS GRAND JURY CHARGES PATRICK J. FITZERALD with ignoring the fact that there was no basis for a criminal investigation from the day he was appointed, with handling some witnesses with kid gloves and banging on others with a mallet, with engaging in past contretemps with certain individuals that might have influenced his pursuit of their liberty, and with misleading the public in a news conference
THIS GRAND JURY CHARGES JOSEPH C. WILSON IV with misleading the public about how he was sent to Niger, about the thrust of his March 2003 oral report of that trip, and about his wife’s CIA status, perhaps for the purpose of getting book and movie contracts.
Now we got a trial.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
By Peter
February 21, 2007 08:14 AM | Link to this
I realize “intelligence” is lacking and Duh-bya doesn’t read newspapers, but I hope somebody tells the White House that the Brits are pulling out of Iraq. The wheels on the “coalition” are coming off.
By Peter
February 21, 2007 08:18 AM | Link to this
Duh-bya made a commitment to fire the leaker. No doubt he’ll make good on that promise. They are just trying to figure out who leaked first.
By Shawny
February 21, 2007 08:28 AM | Link to this
creative, but lame. On a roll.
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 21, 2007 08:30 AM | Link to this
“The reader knows and guesses the rest. It is all in keeping with this incredible and yet veracious story. Poor, unhappy Erik! Shall we pity him? Shall we curse him? He asked only to be “some one,” like everybody else. But he was too ugly! And he had to hide his genius OR USE IT TO PLAY TRICKS WITH, when, with an ordinary face, he would have been one of the most distinguished of mankind! He had a heart that could have held the empire of the world; and, in the end, he had to content himself with a cellar. Ah, yes, we must needs pity the Opera ghost.”
Gaston Leroux
The Phantom comes to a sad end.
By w00t
February 21, 2007 08:31 AM | Link to this
Weak LuckoDull, very weak.
Maybe we should start calling you AndyDull…
Get a job…
By Shawny
February 21, 2007 08:32 AM | Link to this
uhhh, the Brits will reduce troops in late summer if conditions in the southern portion of Iraq continue to improve, down from 7100 to just below 5000. well, duh.
If circumstances improve, they should be backing out. That isn’t news.
By LuckoDull
February 21, 2007 08:32 AM | Link to this
[By Peter February 21, 2007 08:14 AM {{{{{{{{{{{{{I realize “intelligence” is lacking and Duh-bya doesn’t read newspapers,}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}] but I hope somebody tells the White House that the Brits are pulling out of Iraq. The wheels on the “coalition” are coming off.](http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/entries/2007/02/21/the_mask.html#comment-1014975)
What a blooming idiot, I’m sorry for such “divisive” language but Peter deserves it.
“While the United Kingdom is maintaining a robust force in southern Iraq, we’re pleased that conditions in Basra have improved sufficiently that they are able to transition more control to the Iraqis,” Johndroe said.
The withdrawal is proof of success, it takes a total numbnut to spin it any other way.
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By Peter
February 21, 2007 08:37 AM | Link to this
Denmark is expected to announce plans to begin withdrawing some of its 480 troops from Iraq at a news conference today.
By Truthman
February 21, 2007 08:38 AM | Link to this
Would someone please “extraordinarily render” Andy/Dull to Pluto!
By Dusty
February 21, 2007 08:42 AM | Link to this
Peter,
Maybe you don’t read the newspapers either. SOME of the British troops are leaving Basra because the Iraqis are taking over security in that city. That was the goal in the beginning.
As to your second misinformation, don’t worry too much about the leaker. It was Armitage and he said so. He has long been gone. Fitzgerald went ahead and investigated anyway. Maybe you should tell the phantom of the AJC, Luckovich. He is still trying to blame Bush and Chaney just like you.
By Peter
February 21, 2007 08:42 AM | Link to this
‘Dull - I’m just waiting for you to claim the Democrats ruined the QUAGMIRE in Iraq.
By Brian Curtis
February 21, 2007 08:44 AM | Link to this
Very good cartoon this time! Good topic AND well drawn.
I like how the neocons have retreated all the way down to “Of COURSE we were taking petty revenge on Wilson for pointing out our lies… but you can’t prove it was really illegal OR exactly which of us did it!”
Always entertaining to see the neo-nuts running scared as America wakes up from the nightmare.
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 08:44 AM | Link to this
Peter,
Wake up! Armitage was the leaker.
From FBI interviews conducted after Oct. 1, 2003, Fitzgerald also knew that then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard L. Armitage had identified Plame as a CIA officer to columnist Robert D. Novak, who first published Plame’s name on July 14, 2003.
THIS GRAND JURY CHARGES RICHARD L. ARMITAGE with intentionally keeping silent about being the first person to reveal Plame’s identity to reporters and with falsely telling the public that he did so at Fitzgerald’s request because he did not want to be publicly embarrassed.
Armitage attributed his more than three years of silence to Fitzgerald’s request that he not discuss the matter with anyone. But Fitzgerald was not appointed until Dec. 30, 2003, three months after Armitage now says he realized that he was Novak’s source.
By Truthman
February 21, 2007 08:45 AM | Link to this
To borrow from an old Army recruiting slogan; we’ve become an “Army of One” in Iraq!
The Coalition of the Lemmings will soon be down to one…our poor, proud troops more IED fodder for W’s Crusade!
Madness!
By Goldie
February 21, 2007 08:46 AM | Link to this
Does America deserve the truth from this administration? Or do we continue to let them spread their lies and propaganda and say, “oh well, it’s all a political game, this government stuff”? What do we teach our children about our government????
“Don’t you think the American people are entitled to a straight answer?” Mr. Fitzgerald asked of the jury. He said that “a critic points fingers at the White House and as a result his wife gets dragged into the newspapers.” He said Mr. Libby “made a gamble, he threw sand in the eyes of the grand jury” rather than tell the truth and risk being prosecuted for leaking her name.
I say we bring back our American values, where we are the shining light to other countries with our transparent government, and news-reporting that is unattached to any government entity.
By Goldie
February 21, 2007 08:48 AM | Link to this
{{Duh-bya made a commitment to fire the leaker. No doubt he’ll make good on that promise. They are just trying to figure out who leaked first.}}
Peter, I’m looking forward to Duh-bya firing Cheney— he’s the one who gave Scooter the information to leak to the reporters…
By @@
February 21, 2007 08:52 AM | Link to this
ml, you could have saved yourself the time, and drew the mask without any facial features.
How can you overlook all of the reporters in this case who also “drew a blank”?
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 21, 2007 08:53 AM | Link to this
To all of you who use the Libby Defense Fund web site as their source for info:
We are not going to believe what is written there no matter how many times you post it.
It just might possibly be considered a biased news source.
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 08:55 AM | Link to this
WooT,
Aren’t you being paid as some sort of government lackey? Who are you to tell someone else to “get a job” when you are being paid by taxpayers and you’re blogging instead of working?
Back on topic:
THIS GRAND JURY CHARGES THE MEDIA with hypocrisy in asserting that criminal law was applicable to this “leak” and with misreporting facts to wage a political attack on an increasingly unpopular White House. To wit:
Notwithstanding the fact that major newspapers have highfalutin’, well-paid in-house and outside counsel who can find the disclosure law and even interpret it, the following publications called for a criminal investigation:
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution called the appointment of a special independent counsel “absolutely necessary” because the allegations “come perilously close to treason” — even though treason is a constitutional crime requiring two witnesses and the levying of war against the United States.
Has the AJC ever opined that it was “treason” for Sen. Kennedy (D) MA to go to the KGB to offer “help” to undermine the Reagan Administration during the Cold War?
By Jesus
February 21, 2007 08:56 AM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By @@
February 21, 2007 08:56 AM | Link to this
Oh, and one for the road ml….
Fitzpatrick is “shooting blanks”.
By Goldie
February 21, 2007 08:56 AM | Link to this
Dusty-brain, you propagandist— Armitage was the source for Robert Novak’s column, but Dick “No Doubt” Cheney is the one who leaked the info to Scooter, KKK Rove and Armitage to begin with. They were all leaking the information from Cheney’s instructions! Scooter’s and Rove’s leaks did not ever get publicized… that’s the difference you loonies keep wanting to skip over! If Judith Miller had decided to print the leak she heard from Scooter’s lips, or if Ari Fleischer had decided to spill the beans after talking with Scooter, the timeline would have been even sooner that Novak’s column.
God, it would be nice if you Neo-cons would educate yourselves before posting on these blogs — all you’re doing is spreading lies and propaganda, you bunch of Bush-kissers!
By @@
February 21, 2007 08:57 AM | Link to this
Oops! Make that Fitzgerald is “shooting blanks”.
I’m in a hurry.
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 08:58 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla,
The fact is that Victoria Toensing wrote the law which defined the parameters of what defined a covert CIA agent.
Under the law which she wrote, Valerie Plame Wilson was not covert.
No law was broken.
This is a sham.
No justice no peace!
Speak truth to power!
By Corky Cobb
February 21, 2007 09:05 AM | Link to this
The British are leaving, the British are leaving!
Now is your chance war loving Republican cowards. Our country needs you more than ever. Stop waiting for someone else to do your fighting.
ENLIST!
By Truthman
February 21, 2007 09:07 AM | Link to this
Hey ML bloggers!
Here’s your chance to predict when Cheney, er…W, will attack Iran!
Just post the day and time you think the Chimperor and Cheney will launch another stupid, illegal, immoral war on this blog. I’ll write down the guesses and…well, we’ll know when the contest is over, won’t we?
The winner will get a free subscription to “Duh” magazine!!
By LMAO
February 21, 2007 09:07 AM | Link to this
OJ is innocent!!!!!!!!!!!
I just read it at ojsimpsonisinnocent.com
Wow.
LMAO!
By Peter
February 21, 2007 09:08 AM | Link to this
‘Danish - Excues me … did you say they FIRED Armitage?
By Peter
February 21, 2007 09:10 AM | Link to this
‘Danish - Did you say the White House admitted the leak came from the Administration?
By Truthman
February 21, 2007 09:12 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
So, that means that no law was broken when Clinton lied about having sex since adultery is not a crime, right!?!
We’ll stop disliking W when you folks admit you were wrong to go after Clinton for lying about sex!! (I know, you repugs are still mad about Nixon, too).
By Shawny
February 21, 2007 09:14 AM | Link to this
Lynn Cheney should be saying the whole Plame thing is a “vast left wing conspiracy”, like Hillary did over cigar-gate.
Both are monumental distractions, and generally non-events. yawn.
By Shawny
February 21, 2007 09:17 AM | Link to this
Truthman…it was wrong to go after Clinton for lying about sex. There, I said it. yawn.
By Truthman
February 21, 2007 09:23 AM | Link to this
Yeah, Shawny, I always equate treason with sex…in Bizarro World!!
You really should read what you write before you post.
By Dusty
February 21, 2007 09:27 AM | Link to this
Now we know!!!
Truthman has changed his ID to DIB FIBBER
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 09:29 AM | Link to this
From Isikoff/Corn’s book “Hubris”:
The next day, a team of FBI agents and Justice prosecutors investigating the leak questioned the deputy secretary. Armitage acknowledged that he had passed along to Novak information contained in a classified State Department memo: that Wilson’s wife worked on weapons-of-mass-destruction issues at the CIA…[William Howard Taft IV, the State Department’s legal adviser] felt obligated to inform White House counsel Alberto Gonzales. But Powell and his aides feared the White House would then leak that Armitage had been Novak’s source—possibly to embarrass State Department officials who had been unenthusiastic about Bush’s Iraq policy. So Taft told Gonzales the bare minimum: that the State Department had passed some information about the case to Justice. He didn’t mention Armitage. Taft asked if Gonzales wanted to know the details. The president’s lawyer, playing the case by the book, said no, and Taft told him nothing more. Armitage’s role thus remained that rarest of Washington phenomena: a hot secret that never leaked.
Powell doesn’t look too good here, does he? Trying to save the State Department’s butt when it was their employee who was responsible for the leak.
By Paul
February 21, 2007 09:30 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla 8:53
Amazing what passes for “news sources,” isn’t it? Most are a mix of some fact and a lot of partisan opinion. They can lead to original sources, or at least to an accurate lead on “first events” - such as Fitzgerald’s request to expand the investigation and the authorization letter; the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982; or the timeline showing the first allegation that Ms Plame was “covert” was from Mr. Wilson, not from the investigative reporters or the responsible government agency.
At times, though, legitimate news sources get it wrong and are tarnished - even though the “story” was traced back to the wire service (AP, for instance) from which the newspaper (and the affiliated web site) pulled the story.
By Goldie
February 21, 2007 09:31 AM | Link to this
Hey, all you Bush-Kissers! You need to get on the same page with your guy — he’s never claimed that leaking a CIA operative’s name was not a serious problem!
“I want to know the truth,” the president continued. “Leaks of classified information are bad things.” He added that he did not know of “anybody in my administration who leaked classified information.”“>http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/30/wilson.cia/)
So, who are you willing to believe whether it was a problem — not your guy anymore????
By Dusty
February 21, 2007 09:34 AM | Link to this
Now we know!!!
Truthman has corrected his ID to BIG FIBBER.
Goldie has appointed herself to the Supreme Court to replace the whole thing. Who needs ‘em when she’s around?
Peter is Pretzel Man,totally twisted.
Curtis is still supporting the military by undermining their morale.
The whole liberal circus is here today.
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 09:34 AM | Link to this
Truthiman,
Lying to a prosecutor is a willful act. You cannot argue that Clinton “forgot” about his liasions with Monica. Libby could easily have “forgotten” his conversations with reporters. See the difference?
But Mr. Armitage kept his actions secret, not even telling President Bush because the prosecutor asked him not to divulge it, the people said … Mr. Armitage had prepared a resignation letter, his associates said. But he stayed on the job because State Department officials advised that his sudden departure could lead to the disclosure of his role in the leak, the people aware of his actions said… . He resigned in November 2004, but remained a subject of the inquiry until [February 2006] when the prosecutor advised him in a letter that he would not be charged.”
By hterrya
February 21, 2007 09:34 AM | Link to this
Shawny: You admit that “…it was wrong to go after Clinton for lying about sex.” However, the Republican Party for which you regularly pull down your panties has NOT and will NEVER admit that it was WRONG!
What you say means nothing. Your admissions are just rectal gas in the scheme of things!
By Shawny
February 21, 2007 09:38 AM | Link to this
uhmmm, whatever dude.
The part about Lynn Cheney was a joke, btw.
I was making light of Plamegate. Somebody, yet to be determined, let out a little secret that had minimal impact even in Bizarro World.
If the secret happens to benefit you, it is called investigative journalism.
At any rate, this is more important: Reid in the Senate conflicts with Murtha in the House where he does not intend on cutting funding.
By Shawny
February 21, 2007 09:41 AM | Link to this
hterrya, I am not a member of the Republican party, do not donate or work with them in any way shape or form. What they admit is there business.
btw…did you get a good whiff of that breeze? It was good for me…was it good for you?
man, you guys are whack!
By LMAO
February 21, 2007 09:50 AM | Link to this
Didn’t you know hterrya? Shawny is a conservative independent.
LMAO!
By RW-(the original)
February 21, 2007 09:50 AM | Link to this
Clinton was impeached by the House and then not convicted in the Senate. This is similar to being charged with a crime and found not guilty in court. (Although Clinton later admitted his guilt)
So when the jury comes back and says Scooter Libby has been found not guilty are all you moonbats going to treat Fitzfong the way you do Ken Starr?
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 09:50 AM | Link to this
Goldilocks, Peter, and others -
One more time, very s-l-o-w-l-y for you:
Victoria Toensing, who wrote the law the criminalized the outing of covert agents, says that Plame’s status did not meet the parameters.
Moreover, if you read my 9:34, you’ll see that Bush did not know that Armitage was the leaker because the State Department kept that fact secret.
Now, since Armitage no longer works there, how can Bush fire him? Armitage left his post when Powell resigned at the beginning of Bush’s second term in office.
By Amy
February 21, 2007 09:51 AM | Link to this
This has to be the best characterization of the most vile, evil, immoral, man in America. Love the crack. It has to represent the character that is totally missing from this man’s personna.
By hterrya
February 21, 2007 09:54 AM | Link to this
Shawny, if I were part of the Republican Party, I wouldn’t let you in either, despite the fact that you REGULARLY spew Party-line talking points.
You’re just a no-home troll. Back under the bridge!
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 09:56 AM | Link to this
Shawny,
What Reid and Murtha plan are not essentially any different.
They both plan to hamstring the President by instituting a slow bleed strategy of impossible requirements before soldiers can be deployed, forcing year long furloughs, et cetera.
There is going to be a constitutional showdown over this, because Congress is over reaching its authority to run the military, and I, for one, look forward to it.
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 21, 2007 09:57 AM | Link to this
a little light reading….
from a “partisan” source also
http://mediamatters.org/items/200510130008
somebody’s going to have to teach this old lizard how to do that cool blue linky thing. i’ll give up the gravy secret.
By Steven Daedalus
February 21, 2007 09:58 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish, I guess you were educated in the Lee Atwater school of truth. No memo or letter has ever been produced to substantiate these rumors, everything written about it has come from right wing loonies and their web-sites, you guys had better watch out, remember what God did to Atwater, struck him dead, right in front of thousands of his own ilk.
By Paul
February 21, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Shawny 9:41
Wow. Sen Reid said “We’re not about to leave our military in Iraq or Afghanistan or anyplace else without the equipment or materials they need. … We’re talking about a redeployment, not having all the troops come home tomorrow.”
So, we’re going to leave or military in Iraq. We’re going to move them around Iraq (redeployment - or maybe to some other Arab country who will welcome more American troops with open arms?) and they’re not coming home ‘tomorrow’ - or, by inference, anytime soon.
Isn’t this essentially the same ‘strategy’ for which they were critizing the Adminstration a few short months ago?
By Paul
February 21, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla 9:57
Nice going with the up-front identification of a partisan source - they do often draw from legitimate sources, albeit selectively to promote their viewpoint.
RW-(the original) helped me out with the “link thing” yesterday. It’s still posted. I’m not being altruistic, kind, or a good deed doer. I want the gravy secret.
Gotta keep your priorities straight -
By Truthman
February 21, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
C’mon, quit the name-calling!
Sure, I say “repug” and neo-conmen and women,” but I try not to call individuals names.
If you can’t make your point with witty repartee and a command of the English language…if you can’t do it without insulting your adversary, then don’t post at all.
Just a thought. TM
By Paul
February 21, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
Dana Priest, correspondent who wrote the Wilford Reed articles, is on NPR’s Diane Rehm show. Also the Army’s Surgeon General Commander.
By Shawny
February 21, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this
Lame-o (LMAO), or should I call you Goldie…
You are a sad, partisan hack. Nothing independant about you.
By Amy
February 21, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this
This president needs to be hamstrung Buy Danish. He has been so unchecked for the last 6 years that he forgot he was president and mistook himself for a king.
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this
Stephen Daedalus,
You’re the expert on building labyrinths.
That has got to be the vilest thing anyone has ever said on this blog, and believe me, that is saying a lot.
GFY and take a long walk off a short pier.
P.S. The next time you want to come here and state that you hope they drop dead, at least have the guts to be specific in your complaints about “these rumors” before you wish ill will on a fellow American.
By RW-(the original)
February 21, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
Mrs. G,
It appears you already managed the linky thing, but I’m a sucker for a good gravy tip so here goes.
[Mrs. G’s hyper-partisan propaganda site]*(http://mediamatters.org/items/200510130008)
Take out the asterisk and leave no space between the close bracket and open parenthesis to get:
Mrs. G’s hyper-partisan propaganda site
By Shawny
February 21, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
I said I was conservative, so if many of my points lean that way, then…duh.
I have plenty of beefs about how the Republicans are running things, though.
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
Amy,
Grow up, and learn a little about the Constitution while you’re at it.
Your personal opinion (which is deranged, but I digress) is irrelevant.
Our elected President is our Commander in Chief. Not John Murtha. Not Harry Reid. Not Nancy Pelosi. And not you.
By RW-(the original)
February 21, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this
Truth? @ 10:09,
Quit your whining! Oh, and we’ll be the judge of whether a post contains “witty repartee,” so far we’re only seeing half of that from you.
By hterrya
February 21, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this
By Truthman - February 21, 2007 10:09 AM: C’mon, quit the name-calling!
By Shawny - February 21, 2007 10:11 AM Lame-o (LMAO), or should I call you Goldie… You are a sad, partisan hack.
Truthman, I think you wasted your post.
By Shawny
February 21, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
This is good news
But spending needs to be reigned in for true deficit reduction.
By RW-(the original)
February 21, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
Shawny,
I suppose you already know this, but you’re wasting your time explaining independent conservatism. The hard left here thinks Joe Lieberman is a right wing Bushbot.
By mountain man
February 21, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
Libby was a loyal neocon solider but that didn’t keep this callous adminstration from sacrificing him anyway and leaving him hanging out to dry. The steely eyes of “the phantom” reveal either the lack of a conscience or a soul itself….
By Shawny
February 21, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
hterrya …you are quite the analyst. Note the times, though. I fired back prior to TM’s suggestion, which is a good one. I promise to be a good boy, except to you. I am brewing up a good one for ya.
By Amy
February 21, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this
And certainly not you Buy Danish. Thank God! You and those like you are on borrowed time politically, so in closing enjoy the view from the outside looking in. And oh by the way fascist. Enjoy the demise of your king. Since Nov 06, the emperor no longer has clothes!
By RW-(the original)
February 21, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
Amy,
Would an unchecked King have allowed this to take place?
By Zeke
February 21, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
The funny thing about Buy Danish and others of her ilk, is that they actually think that their right wing wackiness still has relevance. You are deader politically than Tom DeLay!
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 21, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this
Just Practicing…..
Musical Entertainment
By Daniel
February 21, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this
Patrick Fitzgerald is an American hero! We now know Bush lied to get us into war. He then lied about lying! Bush is the “Leaker”. Bush had our government h*ll bent to get an honest man. Bush, the coward, had to get Wilson. Bush was desperate to kill. First, he had to kill the truth. When truth is dead people will soon follow. Thank God for Pat Fitzgerald.
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
Amy,
No, I’m not, and unlike the Democrats I cited, I don’t pretend to be. You do see the difference don’t you?
btw, Are you still in college? Your “talking points” sound particularly sophomoric and the sort of thing pushed on our youth by leftist “academia”.
By getalife
February 21, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
Excellent toon Mike.
“joewilson” is the man. LOL.
By Bottoms up for Bush
February 21, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
Don’t cry for Scooterpoot. Anyone who has read his prose knows that lil’ Scooter is going to have a fun 5 years in prison with all those horny playmates. He’ll probably get one of the hairy guys a bear mask so he can live out his rape fantasies.
Andi, RW, Bi - bet you gals wish you were Scooter!
By Amy
February 21, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this
Oh I get it now, Buy Danish. You are uneducated and you resent those that have it. It’s never too late to go back to school Buy Danish.
By Paul
February 21, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Lots of comments about “King” “arrogance” “never recognizing being wrong” etc. Trudy Rubin, columnist, has a good column about how the Bush Administration is bringing in a good number of heavy-hitters who were extremely critical of Iraq policies years ago - and were found by subsequent events to have been right.
where were these guys 4 years ago
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this
Speaking of “living on borrowed time” -
According to this poll (and the parrots here worship poll results), the American people are not on board with the Democrats grand plans.
Unlike Amy, Stephen, Truthiman, and others, the American people are interested in victory, not surrender.
If the Dems had been honest and campaigned on their slow bleed/surrender monkey strategy, do you think they’d be the majority Party right now?
By Daniel
February 21, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
BuB: Libby will serve no time. Bush pays his people well. That’s how he gets them to do what they do. Libby is making tons of money. If convicted, Bush will pardon. Libby knows where all the skeletons are. Make no mistake about it. This is an exercise in democracy. A civics lesson, if you will. Bush will pardon.
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 21, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
Thanks Paul and RW
Ok, the gravy secret….. use all the vegetable pot liquor. (the potato, beans, corn water)
Using, of course the drippings (my family goes nuts over an eye of round and a boneless pork roast cooked together)and your favorite method for thickening (or not). Oh, and fresh ground pepper.
I freeze any extra drippings in ice cube trays to pop into other things as I need to.
By RW-(the original)
February 21, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
Daniel,
Not to interrupt your deranged ranting, but do you even know what Scooter Libby is on trial for?
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
Wow, It looks like the secular progressive Leftists have found God.
So far today we have Stephen Daedalus wishing me dead on God’s behalf, Amy thanking God that I’m not the Commander in Chief, and Daniel thanking God for Patrick Fitzgerald.
By Amy
February 21, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
Very good question Paul. The obvious answer is that Dick Cheney at that time wielded so much power that anything other than his agenda had no chance whatsoever. Since Nov 06, Cheney’s influence is almost gone. Paul Wolfowitz is gone. Scooter Libby is gone. Douglas Feith, gone. Donald Rumsfeld, gone. The neo-cons are just about extinct now. That is the difference. Mr. Bush is painted into a corner with mainstream America and bringing in more sensible realists is his only way out.
By BD's Neglected family
February 21, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this
Amy, Buy Danish’s father graduated from Harvard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leave her alone. Her brothers are overachievers. She blogs here all day to prove to them she is somehow making a contribution! SHE IS SMART. Just ask her. Now lay-off her.
(Buy Danish, we miss you, please log out. Please come home.)
By Bottoms up for Bush
February 21, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
Daniel, you’re probably right.
But, heck, Scooter won’t get 5 years - maybe 18 months - he’ll be disbarred regardless of whether he gets a pardon - he might just decide to “take it like a man” and go to prison, just for the sodomy opportunity.
Like Andi. LOL!
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
Amy the Adolescent,
Aha!
I knew I was right! You’re in school right now, aren’t you?
I’m quite a few years out of formal schooling dear, but I never stop “educating” myself.
Daniel the Dilettante,
Do you have any idea what it is costing Libby personally to defend himself?
Do you realize that public servants like Libby make huge personal sacrifices to serve the President when they could make gazillions more as private citizens?
Are you in school with Adolescent Amy?
By UGAlaw
February 21, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
I do RW. Perjury. And yes it is a crime.
By Truthman
February 21, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
Not to worry! I’ve tilted at plenty of windmills in my lifetime.
By Daniel
February 21, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Perjury. Not telling the truth. Telling a falsehood> The big fibber! Did he have his fingers crossed?
By Bottoms up for Bush
February 21, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Libby is on trial for lying to federal investigators.
Based on the evidence, either he did or 9 other people did.
By Paul
February 21, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla
Thanks! I expect to see you on Rachel Ray sometime soon -
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this
Amy,
Tell me, what does your ProFessor say about General Petreus?
Since he was unanimously approved by the Senate, and is THE expert on insurgencies, do you want to let him do his job, or do you want Murtha and Reid to stand in his way?
This should be very easy for you - it only requires a yes or no answer, with no essay question.
By Paul
February 21, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
Truthman,
Windmills - I saw Richard Kiley in “Man of La Mancha” - great play - keep tilting, Truthman.
By Daniel
February 21, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
“Bush” putting the “CON” in Neo-con. Douglas Feith! You’re kidding me. Do you recall what General Tommy Franks said about Feith? Remember, Feith was the guy vetted by the Heritage Foundation to be the Right-Wing Whack Job Honcho in Iraq. He was the high priest just under Rummy. When they fired Garner they put Feith in charge. He was the political commissar. General Franks said he was: “The dumbest mother-fvcker on the planet earth!”
By Amy
February 21, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish why don’t you cut the crap and you tell us what has gone right with this president. Tell us what has gone right with this war. Or. To suit your lack of an education why don’t you tell us.
Q: Is the war in Iraq a success? Yes or no Buy Danish?
Hope this is not too difficult for your semi-literate mind to take on.
By RW-(the original)
February 21, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
UGAlaw,
Do you find it odd that someone is accused of lying about nothing? If not I bet UGA wishes you would quit sullying their good name.
BTW, he is also charged with obstruction of justice in this non-crime.
Where have I heard the pairing of those two charges before? Oh yes, I remember! When Billy Jeff is charged with those things it’s shameless prosecutorial misconduct. I guess you uber-libs have no principles after all.
By Goldie
February 21, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
Oops— messed up that previous Bush-kisser link… Try this one:
Bush welcomes probe of CIA leak
So while all you Bush-kissers are proclaiming that leaking the names of CIA operatives are not a serious problem, your guy Dubya knows that it’s “a bad thing.” An understatement on his part, for sure — but y’all should be getting on the same page with him on this, because he’s the Decider!
By BD's Neglected family
February 21, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
Amy, I think BD likes you. She likes them young.
BD, why are you giving Amy more attention than you give your family? We miss you and want you back. We don’t care that you are a blogger and not a Doctor. But please, give us just a little bit of your time. How about you skip the Wooten blog this weekend?
By RW-(the original)
February 21, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
Mrs. G,
You make the gravy out of pot and liquor? No wonder you need the meat dripping cubes around for a handy snack.
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this
{{General Franks said he was: “The dumbest mother-fvcker on the planet earth!”}}
Daniel,
Clearly General Franks never met you.
By Goldie
February 21, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
OOPS— now we know that Dubya himself directed Cheney to leak the classified CIA information to the press:
Bush also told federal prosecutors during his June 24, 2004, interview in the Oval Office that he had directed Cheney, as part of that broader effort, to disclose highly classified intelligence information that would not only defend his administration but also discredit Wilson, the sources said. But Bush told investigators that he was unaware that Cheney had directed I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, the vice president’s chief of staff, to covertly leak the classified information to the media instead of releasing it to the public after undergoing the formal governmental declassification processes.
OMG— now we have a true criminal for a president of these here United States! Oh no, what ever do we tell the children????
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 21, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
RW -
Too bad you’re one of the “other side” you have moments of clarity and humor.
The Alice B. Toklas recipe goes back to college days in the seventies…..Granny never knew what hit her.
By Daniel
February 21, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
BD: Hitting home, eh? It’s not me, BD. It’s the words that hurt. General Franks was charged with oour military effort in Iraq. Feith screwed things up. People died because of him. That’s why Tommy was mad. Then, guess what? Bush fired him. Bush, “Hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest”
By Zeke
February 21, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
Because BD knows that she is in way over her head with someone like Amy.
By RW-(the original)
February 21, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Assuming General Franks wasn’t being sexist he obviously never met Goldielocks either.
By Shawny
February 21, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
Goldie…it IS wrong, and needs to be addressed, with penalties for the guilty. I don’t think anyone disputes that. Prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
I just look it in perspective with BIG TICKET issues and it pales in comparison.
By Bottoms up for Bush
February 21, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this
Goldie, we tell them “at least Dumbya never had sex in the Oval Office.”
With a woman anyway.
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this
Goldilocks,
I don’t know what fairy tale you’re reading today, but the President of the United States is authorized to release classified information.
Amy,
Au contraire, I think it’s time for you to “cut the crap”. What evidence do you have that I am “semi-literate”? None?
Just because I used my psychic powers to determine that you are under the sway of Leftist proFessors is no reason for you to make unsubstantiated allegations.
However, if you want to play this silly game, here’s my evidence that you yourself are not exactly a stellar student of English grammar:
{{To suit your lack of an education why don’t you tell us.}}
Is that a sentence?
By RW-(the original)
February 21, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
Daniel,
Are you honestly trying to get anybody to believe that President Bush fired General Franks?
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
Zeke,
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
RW,
Yes, we can deduce that Franks never met Goldilocks, who for all her concern about leaking “classified” info has been remarkably silent about leaks involving the Swift Program, CIA renditions, NSA wiretapping and the like.
By Amy
February 21, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
So Buy Danish. Since you are the enlightened one here, please tell us why these guys didn’t have a plan for after the “victory”. Did they not think that we would not win? That seems to be the only logical reason no one that there was no plan for after the “victory”. Did these guys think that we would just topple Saddam and the Iraqis would go off and build a stock market? Did they for one minute consider that these people would loot everything in site? Nope. Did they consider that ethnic or tribla fighting would ensue? Doesn’t look that way. Did they consider that maybe if we came in and said that we were in charge that maybe the Iraqis would expect us to be in charge? Maybe provide electricity, food, running water? Nope. It appears that all these neo-cons had was a theory. Maybe a domino theory in reverse…topple Saddam and everything else will fall into place. About as sound as the original domino theory. Except that in dominos the first first one’s got to fall forward. As a result the neo-con’s famed “decapitation” strategy failed to “decapitate” so now we have roving bands of his loyalists running around killing more Americans AFTER Bush declared victory than we lost during the “war”. So Buy Danish. Why don’t you enlighten us on the sheer brilliance of that “plan”?
By Craig
February 21, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
How much would you like to bet that “Amy” and “Zeke” are both posting from “One Voice’s” computer? Why maybe it is One Person with lots of Voices in his head.
By RW-(the original)
February 21, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Those things protect America so it’s fine and dandy to get those out in the open. Plame and Wilson were working to undermine America so they must be protected at all costs.
By A Person
February 21, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
Craig, who the hell are you?
By Amy
February 21, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
And why in the world would these neo-cons take a country (Iraq) that had no interest at the time in killing Americans and get them very excited about killing Americans? And why pray tell would these cons just up and decide that those guys that flew the planes into the twin towers (al Queda) was no longer America’s #1 target? Maybe you can tell us Buy Danish.
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
Amy,
Is that^^^more evidence of your “literary” skills? Ho ho ho.
I am not interested in going over the war yet once again, particularly with a juvenile, ignorant, tin foil hatted college student. If I wanted to waste my time trying to “educate” you on recent history, I’d do it for a generous fee.
Now, I asked you a very simple question that only requires a one word answer -
{{{Since (Petreus) was unanimously approved by the Senate, and is THE expert on insurgencies, do you want to let him do his job, or do you want Murtha and Reid to stand in his way?}}
Let him do his job? Yes or No?
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
Craig,
I had exactly the same thought. Although I think “One Voice” uses paragraph breaks.
That leaves “Amy” and “Zeke” as one person, who are also possibly, but not definitely, “One Voice”.
Of course “One Voice” could be intentionally trying to disguise his writing “style”.
By Craig
February 21, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
A Person-I’m Craig. Are you in any condition to blog?
By LuckoDull
February 21, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
By Amy February 21, 2007 11:54 AM So Buy Danish. Since you are the enlightened one here, please tell us why these guys didn’t have a plan for after the “victory”.
Maybe some people just don’t pay attention:
A campaign on harsh terrain in a vast country could be longer and more difficult than some have predicted. And helping Iraqis achieve a united, stable, and free country will require our sustained commitment. Yet, whatever is required of us, we will carry out all the duties we have accepted-President Bush, March 23rd, 2003.
I guess if you are a moonbat pinko that could be translated into “one week and home.”
Victory in Iraq is Defined in Stages Short term, Iraq is making steady progress in fighting terrorists, meeting political milestones, building democratic institutions, and standing up security forces. Medium term, Iraq is in the lead defeating terrorists and providing its own security, with a fully constitutional government in place, and on its way to achieving its economic potential. Longer term, Iraq is peaceful, united, stable, and secure, well integrated into the international community, and a full partner in the global war on terrorism.- President George W. Bush February 26, 2003
Just as planned.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
By BD's Neglected family
February 21, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this
Amy, would you please pay attention. Buy Danish’s father went to Harvard. She is trying very nicely to let you know how smart she is. Please just tell her how smart she is and she just may answer your questions. We love you BD!
(BD, How about it, no Wooten blog this weekend? a little family time?)
By RE
February 21, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this
Question:
Can a president classify an illegal activity?
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
Craig,
Come to think of it - since Amy has cited God today, once thanking him and now using the phrase “pray tell”, if she really is One Voice then OV the Atheist is dropping a lot of red herrings.
By LARRYMUNSON
February 21, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish, Amy just stomped on you with a hob nailed boot! Just crushed your face!
By Buy Danish
February 21, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
Grammar correction at 12:13!
Make that one person who “is” possibly not “are” possibly…
By RW-(the original)
Fe