Mike Luckovich

By George

February 16, 2007 08:03 AM | Link to this

Unfortunately, our Commander in Chief is dumb a brick so this probably happened.

By LuckoDull

February 16, 2007 08:04 AM | Link to this

First of all, we are committed to remaining metro Atlanta’s most trusted source for news, information and advertising, in print and online. That is the core of what we do and who we are, and that will not change.- By John Mellott, The Atlanta Urinal, Published on: 02/16/07

Oh, O.K, trusted, got ya:

Record high global temps in January!- It may be cold comfort during a frigid February, but last month was by far the hottest January ever.- Urinal

So one month’s data calls for screaming age 2 headlines from the “trusted” ones?

COLUMBUS , Ohio – A new report on climate over the world’s southernmost continent shows that temperatures during the late 20th century did not climb as had been predicted by many global climate models.

How quickly we will be told by the libs next month that this deep freeze is just a quirk, nothing to worry about.

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By Shawny

February 16, 2007 08:09 AM | Link to this

“They will have boots, won’t they?”

Prez is probably looking at Nancy asking that question…wondering if the boots will get de-funded.

Good question, Georgie boy.

By Sam

February 16, 2007 08:09 AM | Link to this

By LuckoDull How quickly we will be told by the libs next month that this deep freeze is just a quirk, nothing to worry about.

Global means global dumbazz. G-L-O-B-A-L! I don’t think that certain parts of the U.S. qualifies as global. Of course all of you xenophobes and nativist wish that were so. February 16, 2007 08:04 AM

By Peter

February 16, 2007 08:09 AM | Link to this

OUTRAGEOUS ! ! !

Support the troops … .

BRING THEM HOME NOW ! ! !

(Good to run into you last evening Mike. Thanks for your support. If only I had your book with me … . Perhaps next time.)

By Mrs. Godzilla

February 16, 2007 08:09 AM | Link to this

Thanks Mike - for keeping this topic in front of us.

It isn’t just boots, it’s armored vehicles, roadside-bomb countermeasures and communications gear.

Please people - especially those of you who support this surge - contact your representatives and insist that no young American soldier be sent into combat without appropriate training and gear.

God Bless our Service Men and Women and bring them home soon and safe.

By Eric

February 16, 2007 08:10 AM | Link to this

Hey George, I think you just hurled an insult at bricks. Great job, Mike.

By moc

February 16, 2007 08:11 AM | Link to this

You don’t have to be liberal or conservative to refute that global warming is real and based on the good science. You just have to be an imbecile.

By reebok

February 16, 2007 08:16 AM | Link to this

This is a toally asinine cartoon…Dubya is so delusional it would never occur to him to wonder about a detail, no matter how big or small. He apparently inhabits a parallel universe where wishing something really hard makes it true. Thus, Mission Accomplished, Insurgency is in its’ Last Throes, Oil Revenue will Pay for Reconstruction…and Oh yeah, Saddam Hussein was behind 9-11.

By N-GA

February 16, 2007 08:17 AM | Link to this

Well Blivet, I won’t be around much today, so you’ll have to find someone else’s leg to hump.

BTW, once again you link to an article that you failed to read:

“By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 15, 2007 09:26 PM | Link to this

This just in!

Speaking of al qaeda in Iraq butchers, looks like we just got Zarqs successor in custody.”

What is so funny is that nowhere in the article does it say, or even suggest, that “Zarqs” (sic) successor is in custody. LMAO at your blatant lie. Maybe someone nic-jacked you to make you look stupid…..NOT!

By LuckoDull

February 16, 2007 08:24 AM | Link to this

There is solid information that ECO-EXTREMISTS, CORPORATE CEOS, GOVERNMENT ENVIROCRATS, and MEDIA MOGULS form a loose coalition to promote radical, costly, self serving goals, and to mislead and confuse the people at large about environmental problems. Further, many so called scientists, who live from direct or indirect U.S. tax funds, ape these extremist views for personal gain. In a recent article in the Kentucky Journal of Commerce and Industry, 8/8/98 “EPA LIED”, it was pointed out the EPA had “cherry picked” data on secondhand tobacco smoke as a cause of cancer; and no data existed to support EPA claims in this (tobacco) area. Now we come to the much discussed “Ozone Hole” in the Antarctic (South Pole) area. Studies by a number of sources show that, each year, at the end of the dark, cold (-80F) Antarctic winter an Ozone Hole (thin area) appears, lasts for three to five weeks, and then disappears. Let us now recall that Ozone forms when sun light strikes Oxygen molecules. Very few rays from the sun reach the Antarctic during Antarctic winters. When there is no sun light, Ozone will not be formed in the upper air.](http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/environment/ozonefreon_fraud.htm)

Time always shows who the real “imbeciles” are.

I thought we were supposed to run out of oil by now?

I thought overcrowding was going to cut off food supplies?

I thought we were in for a new ice age?

I thought Y2K would shut the world down?

Yes, “imbeciles” for listening to liberals.

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By @@

February 16, 2007 08:28 AM | Link to this

A better question ml.

Will the Democrats remove the price tag on that boot before or after their pathetic attempts to shove it up……

The troops?

The Iraqis?

President Bush?

By Old Physics Teacher

February 16, 2007 08:29 AM | Link to this

George, Lucko-dense, whoever you are, please read the articles you are trying to make fun of. When you don’t know what you’re talking about, please keep quiet so people will only think you’re an idiot. When you try to make fun of a study done with a century’s worth of data and try to claim (only God knows how you did it) that it represents only one data point, you confirm that you’re an idiot.

Geez, what science teacher passed you from the middle school to the high school? He/she needs to be fired!

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 08:36 AM | Link to this

They may have boots, but no guarantees they will have armored vehicles… I’m still confused about why there was such a rush to invade Iraq in ‘03, when we obviously didn’t have the equipment needed to start that war then.

By N-GA

February 16, 2007 08:38 AM | Link to this

THE IRAQ WAR IS OVER!!!!

May 2, 2003 “Mission Accomplished” Let’s bring the troops home!

Dec. 13, 2003 Saddam Hussein captured Let’s bring the troops home!

Sept. 30, 2004 Iraq Survey Group releases its Final Report - No WMD’s Let’s bring the troops home!

Jan. 12, 2005 US officially ends search for WMD’s Let’s bring the troops home!

Oct. 15, 2005 Iraq Constitution approved by referendum Let’s bring the troops home!

December 15, 2005 Iraq’s national election Let’s bring the troops home!

Dec. 30, 2006 Saddam Hussein executed Let’s bring the troops home!

Why is the US still in Iraq? What is the mission now?

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 08:43 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

JACKASS!

You’re the one doing the leg humping.
rushncap really needs to lend you guys his mirror.

The reason that is not in the story is because NBC removed it from their original story.

Take it up with NBC.

By @@

February 16, 2007 08:45 AM | Link to this

Watch out…here comes “The Fox”.

I just couldn’t resist that picture of Murtha. Is that what BDS looks like?

Scarey!

Is that what all the leftists here look like when you’re pounding on your keyboards?

I’ve got a visual. It’s all mine. You can’t take it from me.

Too funny!

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 08:50 AM | Link to this

Hey Repugnants— where’s your leaders who claim “accountability” as their strong point? It certainly isn’t anyone in the White House, or the Pentagon, or the State Dept., or in Congress through ‘06:

”There is no accountability,” said David M. Walker, who heads the auditing arm of Congress. ”Organizations charged with overseeing contracts are not held accountable. Contractors are not held accountable. The individuals responsible are not held accountable.”

Shame, shame, shame!!

By Blackadder

February 16, 2007 08:52 AM | Link to this

N-GA - you’r spinning your wheels. I’ve been trying to get an answer to that question for days now. They have no clue. They just Rah Rah for Bush.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 08:55 AM | Link to this

All you left-wing consipiracy theorists really make me tired - vous m’ennuyez! Please find some facts to back up the wild theories of how the illuminati and all the rest are conspiring to destroy the very planet that they inhabit as well. It’s too much for color TV.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 08:59 AM | Link to this

JACKASS N-GA!

Here you go. Please try to contain your glee that Al Masri may have gotten away.

Breaking: Al Qaeda in Iraq leader wounded in firefight? NBC: Al-Masri in custody; NBC backs off capture claim; PJM: He probably wasn’t wounded, either

The fact remains that they are making huge progress going after this al Qaeda scum. Gosh, does it make me a NAZI to express that opinion? Hmmmmmm?

By Czar

February 16, 2007 09:01 AM | Link to this

President Bush is personally awkard. He’s like Lincoln that way.

He’s not dumb. He just cant express himself in a manner that can avoid mockery.

Iraq is a necessary consequence of the commercialization of the globe.

You cant have trade unless you secure the trade routes. It’s that simple.

By Peter

February 16, 2007 09:01 AM | Link to this

Goldie - I think Rummy put it well when he said we go to war with the army we have, not the army we want … . (a formula for disaster if he gets to pick the timing) … but don’t expect the twins or any other administration offspring to support that position. (You and the twins seem to be on the same side of this issue.)

By IN THE NEWS

February 16, 2007 09:07 AM | Link to this

FROM GOPUSA.COM

Pace: Not enough equipment for surge By UPI Staff United Press International February 7, 2007

WASHINGTON (UPI) — U.S. Marine Gen. Peter Pace admitted to the Senate Armed Services Committee Tuesday equipment will be a problem when U.S. forces in Iraq are increased.

During testimony over the $481.4 billion fiscal 2008 defense budget, Pace said the military has about 41,000 armored vehicles in Iraq — fewer than will be needed “to cover all of the troops that are deploying.”

Pace said it will be July before enough equipment is in place.

“The commanders on the ground have talked with the chief of staff of the Army and the commandant of the Marine Corps and have agreed that they will be able to share the assets on the ground so that no soldier or Marine will leave the compound without proper protection,” Pace said when asked why more troops should be deployed immediately.

Copyright 2007 United Press International, Inc. All Rights Reserved

AREN”T YOU PROUD OUR TROOPS HAVE LEARNED TO SHARE.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 09:07 AM | Link to this

{{I think Rummy put it well when he said we go to war with the army we have, not the army we want}}

Oh, yeah, Peter— that’s the same guy that also said “Stuff happens!” as Iraq was being looted and the insurgency was allowed to get on its feet. What a leader he was… really knew how to lead a war, huh?

By Paul

February 16, 2007 09:09 AM | Link to this

G’morning, NGA

Here’s another article from ABC you may find interesting:

Link:http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=2874992&page=1

It demonstrates what happens when one keeps setting tax rates higher and higher for “the rich.” Pretty soon receipts decrease. The idea of people who promote social causes while shielding their income from being used for such causes (Soros) is always a background issue.

I think its reasonable for Iraqi/US forces to not release information on the status of al-Masri. Anything that causes uncertainty in one’s enemy (is he alive, dead, escape, captured, able to talk, not able) should be exploited. If he’s dead, no need to dismantle networks. If we’re not sure, should rework operations. That may derail current plans.

By Peter

February 16, 2007 09:15 AM | Link to this

Goldie - (I didn’t address the timing you are confused about. Sorry.) They figured that the invasion of Iraq would take a couple of days and be over before the heat of summer put the mission off six months. (Little attention was directed at consequences. Since “intelligence” indicated we would be greeted with flowers the troops wouldn’t need armor.)

By Paul

February 16, 2007 09:21 AM | Link to this

In the news

Actually, they don’t share all that well. Pretty poorly, in fact. I once took a look at services’ share of various appropriations over about ten years - at a time when the Defense budget was changing dramatically (as it now is). Discounting for a few program changes, the services’ share of the budget changed very, very little. Restructuring Defense is very, very difficult. McNamara made some very good changes - the time was right. Defense chiefs since him (through all administrations) did little but manage the status quo. Rumsfeld was the last who stated any such plans - and was not successful.

The “troops” may share among themselves, but senior military/civilian leaders protect turf. And it’s not likely to change.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 09:22 AM | Link to this

All of these hypocrites who so vocally confess their love of the troops but their contempt for the mission remind me too much of those hypocrites (many of whom we are currently fighting) who claim to love the sinner but hate the sin, so the only way to cure the sin is to kill the sinner. You never cease to amaze me!

By IN THE NEWS

February 16, 2007 09:25 AM | Link to this

FOR YOU FOXY NEWSHOUNDS

FACT CHECK: Rep. Keith Ellison Never Called Cops To ‘Snuff Tancredo’s Cigar’ Yesterday, The Hill ran a story with the headline, “Rep. Ellison calls the cops to snuff Tancredo’s cigar.” It reported that on Wednesday night, Rep. Keith Ellison’s (D-MN) office called the Capitol Hill Police to check on smoke coming from Rep. Tom Tancredo’s (R-CO) office. At the time, Tancredo was smoking a cigar.

MSNBC’s Tucker Carlson picked up on the story and reported that Ellison “demanded that the officer march into Congressman Tancredo’s office and confront him anyway, which the officer did, sheepishly.” Fox News said that Ellison “called the Capitol Hill police on Colorado Republican Tom Tancredo for smoking a stogy in his office next door to Ellison’s.”

These reports are all false. Ellison never called the Capitol Hill police. Rick Jauert, Ellison’s spokesman, confirmed to ThinkProgress that he was the one who made the call. He said he wasn’t sure from where the “smoke odor” was coming, so he called the House superintendent’s office, as is standard protocol. The superintendent’s office then transferred him to the police. Jauert wrote to ThinkProgress:

I informed the officer that along about each day at 5 this vile, offensive and very strong odor began to seep into our offices. I wasn’t even aware of the fact that the Congressman himself suffers from seasonal asthma. … The officer asked me if I knew where the odor was coming from; I said, I thought it seemed to becoming from the direction of the Congressman’s personal office which would mean it likely was emanating from Cong. Tancredo’s office.

Jauert notes that Ellison initially wasn’t even aware he had made the call. Later, when he told him, Ellison “went over to Tancredo’s office to explain to them that he (Ellison) has asthma.”

Tancredo told The Hill that he has no plans to stop smoking: “If he [Ellison] would have [had] the courtesy to say something I’m sure I would have been more accommodating to his wishes.” But Tancredo’s spokesman, Carlos Espinosa, confirmed with us today that “Ellison did come by after the police left to ask us to stop smoking. But when he got to our office, [the congressman] had already left.”

By Czar

February 16, 2007 09:30 AM | Link to this

Watch the Stock Market’s spring rally explode this year. Everything seems to be falling into place for the global expansion of business. China is a tiger. They are taking over huge blocks of very many different industries with cheap, yet quality goods. Diversify internationally when you invest.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 09:32 AM | Link to this

The Repugnant Party: no accountability, clueless leadership in overseeing a war in Iraq… small wonder your party got squashed in November!

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 09:34 AM | Link to this

Body Armor facts according to WaPo:

By Peter

February 16, 2007 09:35 AM | Link to this

Edwin - (Your twisted logic baffles me.) The sinners are not the soldiers but the Administration and Legislative enablers. (From an active duty veteran of the Vietnam War era.)

By Blackadder

February 16, 2007 09:37 AM | Link to this

“Iraq Troop Boost Erodes Readiness, General Says”

I’m rather amazed that after 6 years of abuse our military leaders are finally standing up to the man who is destroying this institution along with the lives of so many of our soldiers.

By LOCAL RECRUITER

February 16, 2007 09:39 AM | Link to this

Edwin….why haven’t you come to see me?

Your own patriotism never ceases to amaze me! You love our troops and love our mission- WHY DON”T YOU LOVE YOUR LOCAL RECRUITER?

Too Old? Go as a contractor and do the same things our troops do only for loads better pay! A hunnert G’s Man! Check out the HAliburton website - they’d kill for a stud like you.

Felony Conviction? Asthma? ADD? Really Bad grades? No Problem we can take you any way. We’ll waiver you right on in!

And apparently you don’t care if you get boots or not. Good, cause chances are you’ll not get those, or body armor, or decent/recent food or clean drinking water.

Why not support our troops with your yellow behind on the line beside them?

Hate the sin, indeed.

By Blackadder

February 16, 2007 09:40 AM | Link to this

BD - That certainly is good news. A little late for the more than 3,000 troops who are dead, many of whom would have benefited from that armor. But good news is always welcomed.

By Blackadder

February 16, 2007 09:42 AM | Link to this

The House of Representatives will vote today on the anti-escalation resolution. This is the first official rebuke of Bush’s war policy. Let’s see how many Republicans vote against their president.

This should be interesting.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 09:42 AM | Link to this

Another legacy the Repugnants should be proud of: the political control exerted by the NRA, who vows there will be no programs for keeping handguns away from teenagers:

A 3-year-old East Point girl shot in the head just above her eye Thursday night by a teen-ager died overnight at Grady Memorial Hospital, police said.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 09:48 AM | Link to this

Everything you ever wanted to know about body armor from Global Security. Org.

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2007 09:51 AM | Link to this

“The troop surge in Iraq will mean more bodies under the ground.”

But hey, at least they’re dying for a good cause, right? Because Iraq was a huge threat to America.

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 09:53 AM | Link to this

Hooray for John Murtha!!

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyid=2007-02-15T193356Z01N15322287RTRUKOC0_US-IRAQ-USA-FUNDING.xml

As I said yesterday, it’ll be hard to get this through the Senate, but it’s an excellent place to start.

By getalife

February 16, 2007 09:59 AM | Link to this

Not to worry, Mr. Murtha is on the job

By @@

February 16, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Dammit! Where is the outrage from the leftists for the destruction of those mud huts?

However, the video shows film shot in daylight of a single story compound of mud-plastered walls, where the Americans appear to have had a presence. “CPT ASHWOKTH UTAH. NG ETT,” is scrawled on a wall, but there is little to suggest that foreign forces occupied the primitively built building for long.

And look Zawahiri…the leftists here in the U.S. want to talk about Osama. Where the hell is he?

Zawahiri says that destroying such organizations will not have any impact on the jihad being waged by individual Muslims.

Mullah Mohammad Omar, the Amir of the Taliban, will lead this global Jihadi Intifada. Muslims of the world should unite under his leadership. Curiously, there is not even a mention of Osama.

And on the basis of the facts I know, I call on my Muslim brothers to go forth to Afghanistan, Iraq, Algeria and Somalia, because your brothers the Mujahideen are (((in need of men, money, materiel, opinion, expertise and information.)))

So Zawahiri, has your organization been destroyed? Are you running short on manpower and supplies?

All I want is the ability to italicize and bolden text.

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

I’m sure you do, @@, I’m sure you do. And Limbaugh wants a bigger microphone so he can keep shouting irrelevant gibberish. Volume makes up for lack of content, after all.

By Blackadder

February 16, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

$10 billion has been wasted or poorly spent in Iraq. Halliburton has been tagged with $2.7 billion of that.

Remember how we were told the US could not afford Kyoto? Remember how the GOP told us that universal health care was impossible because it would be too expensive? Ten billion dollars could have gone a long way towards helping both current generation as well as future generations of Americans. Instead, all we got was a crappy $10 billion bill for a failed war of convenience and no bid contracts for the GOP’s friends.

And as bad as that is, the auditors say it could get worse since we are stuck in Iraq. This is what happens when you have a useless, rubber stamp Republican-led Congress who failed to do their jobs and ask questions.

“Of the $10 billion in overpriced contracts or undocumented costs, more than $2.7 billion were charged by Halliburton Co., the oil-field services firm once headed by Vice President Dick Cheney.”

Why does the GOP and Halliburton hate America? What a bunch of swindlers.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Let me ask you supporters of Murtha’s slow bleed proposal some questions:

If Mayor Franklin proposed that we cut the number of police in Atlanta, would you be for or against that proposal?

Do you think that the remaining police would be safer or less safe as their numbers dwindled?

The bottom line is that for all your pretenses about caring about the troops, by reducing their numbers you are actually putting the ones who are on the ground more at risk.

You’ll also have to show me where Murtha ran for re-election on this specific issue. We elected Bush as our Commander in Chief, not John Abscam Murtha, so while he is entitled to his opinion, he is not invested with the authority of the American people, only those in his district.

And if you want to blame Bush for problems with body armor, which has been modified 5 times already, why not blame Clinton who was President in 1998/1999 when the first armor was issued?

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Did you know that since the start of George’s Iraq Fiasco, the Army has fired more than 300 linguists - 55 who speak Arabic languages - because they’re gay?

I wonder how many troops have died because of a lack of linguists to decipher what the bad guys are saying?

That is a perfect example of being “Stuck On Stupid!”

Germany, Britain, France, Israel, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Canada all allow openly gay people to serve honorably. Why not the U.S.A?

Madness! Madness!!

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

{{Why does the GOP and Halliburton hate America? What a bunch of swindlers.}}

Amen, brother!

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish, your analogy doesn’t hold water. There is comparison between Atlanta Police and Bush’s Fiasco.

http://www.rawstory.com//news/2007/Cheneysoninlawusedrevolvingdoorto0216.html

See how the Cheney’s protect our security.

“When Fascism comes to America, it will be waving the flag and carrying a cross”

— Sinclair Lewis, 1935

Man knew what he was talking about!!

By Blackadder

February 16, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

[[If Mayor Franklin proposed that we cut the number of police in Atlanta, would you be for or against that proposal?]]

That’s an absurd question. There is no comparison. Since when are we “policing” Iraq? I thought we were defending America.

[[The bottom line is that for all your pretenses about caring about the troops, by reducing their numbers you are actually putting the ones who are on the ground more at risk.]]

All along we’ve wanted the troops brought home. Bush smokescreened that by sending more. Now the debate has been changed (temporarily) to ending the surge. Once we’ve accomplished that we can concentrate again on bringing the rest home.

Ok, I’m ready to receive my name calling from you.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Truthiman,

What does religion have to do with General Petreus’ stragegy in Iraq??????

Talk about irrelevancies.

Blackadder,

Bush hired Petreus. How is the Gen. Petreus’ plan a “smokescreen”? The only smokescreen I see is the fact that after laying out the plan to congress he was unanimously approved, but now the Democrats are trying to hamstring the entire operation and stabbing him and our ground forces under his command in the back.

By Blackadder

February 16, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

What?! No name calling? Are you mellowing on us?

I never mentioned Petreus. I said Bush’s surge was a smokescreen. Instead of the Dems being able to carry on with the plan to end the occupation, Bush sends more so they’ll have to scream about the surge instead of the problem at hand.

It’s the way they have always operated.

By @@

February 16, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis:

Propoganda is propoganda. I would have thought you’d be more fair and balanced.

If it’s propoganda put forth by the enemy to incite violence, it’s useless gibberish? If it misrepresents their successes against our soldiers, it’s useless gibberish? If it omits Osama making him irrelevant, it’s useless jibberish?

What are you looking for?

Oh, I remember now. Anything that makes the administration look bad. Anything you deem propoganda by the administration.

Got it!

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

{{That is a perfect example of being “Stuck On Stupid!”}}

Truthman— you point to a good example of how prejudice against a group of Americans is still harmful to our country today. And it has so permeated our society (the gay-bashing), even a so-called hero like Tim Hardaway of the NBA just can’t control his acknowledged homophobia.

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Hmmm…I never mentioned Petreaus either.

But I will now.

Petreaus does not have a plan. He is being ordered to execute George’s “plan. (plan?)” General Petreaus, whom Al Franken considers a saint, likes his job. He wants to keep his job and that shiny, new fourth star. He knows not to bite the hand that feeds him. As will all officers, they serve at the “pleasure of the president of the United States.” I believe Shinseki and Zinni are case studies of what happens when you inject logic and military sense into any discussion with W or Cheney or Rummy or Rice.

By Lifetime+ Duty Station

February 16, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Maybe Buy Danish is right, we need to pull all the troops out on the same day so none of them is left unprotected. But wait, when the planes are leaving the airport, is the runway wide enough for all 170,000 troops to take off at the same time?

So it looks like America can never leave anyplace it deploys soldiers cause they can’t all leave at once. No retreating for OUR troops, they must all stand and die together in the face of some future overwhelming force. No fighting another day with better odds for OUR troops, it’s just down the throat of the meat grinder cause to wthdraw would leave some other troops unprotected. Somebody outta tell the troops that they have a lifetime+ duty station.

It would be amusing as we watch the Repugnants try to extend, drag out, obfistucate, and defy the will of the american people, if they weren’t killing honorable soldiers to do it. When are these charlatans going to realize that the collective attention of the nations voters is intensely focused on them and we are sickened by what we see?

The good news is that by the time this current crop of Republican rockheads gets out of office, a Republican won’t be able to get elected dog catcher for the next 20 years. In view of the last 6 years, that would be a good thing, a very, very, good thing.

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

More truth!

http://www.rawstory.com//news/2007/DemocraticCongressmanRestassuredthathistory0215.html

I’ve always lived my life wanting to be on the right side of history…and I always have been.

Yea me!!

By SarahConnah

February 16, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

Yes, president Buckaroo Bush, there will be boot’s available. Unfortunately, there will NOT be one planted up your pa-to-tee!

Curtsie!

By Blackadder

February 16, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

BD - I have a question. You always seem to mention Petreus and anything he says is gold.

Truthman makes a good point. Petreus is saying anything to keep his job. Look what happens to any General who disagrees with Bush. They are retired early or outright fired.

Why didn’t you also mention what those generals had to say? I suspect it’s because you don’t happen to agree.

By Mrs Godzilla

February 16, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

From Anna Quindlen of Newseek this week;

“The people who brought America reports of WMDs when none existed, and the slogan “Mission Accomplished” when it was not nor likely to be, now say that American troops cannot leave. Not yet. Not soon. Not on a timetable. Judge the truth of that conclusion by the truth of their past statements. They say that talk of withdrawal shows a lack of support for the troops. There is no better way to support those who have fought valiantly in Iraq than to guarantee that not one more of them dies in the service of the political miscalculation of their leaders. Not one more soldier. Not one more grave. Not one more day. Bring them home tomorrow.”

I couldn’t agree more.

By Amy

February 16, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

By LuckoDull

February 16, 2007 08:24 AM

Time always shows who the real “imbeciles” are.

Too bad that time has run out on you. You are already proven to be an imbecile. Probably from that far right wing fringe of the Republican party that has lost all credilility with mainstream America. Enjoy being on the outside looking in moron.

By LivingRight

February 16, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

ML- Clearly, you don’t ‘support the bare feet’, pinko.

By Dusty

February 16, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Well,

I have never read a more sickening bunch of liberals. Our country is at war and you hate the president, undermine the troops and then say you are all for the country. Yayy!! Here’s the way it goes:

The President doesn’t know ANYTHING. The troops are running around barefooted and wearing sarongs. General Petraeus knows nothing and is a stooge. Pass a resolution so a NO-FUNDS bill for the troops will come up next. Iran just wants a little diplomacy. Cut and run ‘cause the war is over. I know how to run this war but everybody else is stupid. The military is full of low class no goods.

This is the kind of trash I am reading here. And all under Luckovich’s personal touch of repudiation of this country’s administration.

“Slow bleed” is what liberal policy is named now. On this blog, it is full speed ahead and kill American policy and if it kills the troops, it is not the fault of the liberal betrayers.

You see, I have freedom of speech also. I am telling you liberals exactly how you sound to me and also to our enemies.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

{{From Anna Quindlen of Newseek this week}}

Good excerpt, Mrs. G— and I’ve never understood the GOP’s argument that “we have to honor those who’ve already died in Iraq” by staying in that hell-hole through eternity… where’s the logic in that?

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

Dusty: We get it. You’ve said it enough times, we all know it by heart. You support any war started by anyone, because opposing an unjust war is “un-patriotic.” We KNOW that’s your dominant thought, each and every day.

But the only one getting our troops killed today is Mr. Bush. And if he persists in putting them in harm’s way even after funding is yanked, their deaths will still be on his doorstep—no one else’s.

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

And Dusty: The difference between us is that you worry about “what our enemies will think” if we stand by our principles. I don’t.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

{{You see, I have freedom of speech also. I am telling you liberals exactly how you sound to me and also to our enemies.}}

Oh, Dusty-brain— once again speaking for our “enemies”… are you speaking of those Iraqis citizens again, you know the ones you used to claim that we “liberated” from their evil dictator and now are shooting at each other and our troops? Those “enemies”?

By Dr.Doom

February 16, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

I hear that you’ve got some huge t**. How big are they really?

By IN THE NEWS

February 16, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

THIS IS FROM FOX/FAUX NEWS

THE NUMBERS MUST ACTUALLY BE A WHOLE LOT HIGHER>>>>

54 percent. Number of Americans who would vote to cut off funding for President Bush’s escalation plan if they were in Congress, according to a Fox News poll.

By getalife

February 16, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Tim Ryan owns this debate

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Hey Dusty,

We support the War in AFGHANISTAN!! You remember that one where the entire world was behind us???

That was, and still is, America’s War.

George’s War in Iraq is exactly that: his war!

There was no need to go to Iraq…no, the Iraqis ARE NOT BETTER OFF W/O SADDAM…and neither are our brave men and women!!

Korea is much more dangerous, but they don’t have any oil.

More than 200,000 people have died in Darfur, but the only black things there are the people (again, no oil), and Kanye West reminded us how W feels about black people.

Let’s forget George’s folly in Iraq and have a surge in Afghanistan.

By IN THE NEWS

February 16, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

MAKES YOU PROUD TO BE FROM GA

Meet our new friend, Georgia State House Rep. Ben Bridges (R), chairman of the retirement committee in the state house.

Bridges is now in a bit of trouble for spilling the beans about evolution being the product of a Pharisee Jew conspiracy to bamboozle normal Americans and destroy Christianity.

“Indisputable evidence — long hidden but now available to everyone — demonstrates conclusively that so-called ‘secular evolution science’ is the Big-Bang 15-billion-year alternate ‘creation scenario’ of the Pharisee Religion,” reads the letter that went out under Bridges’ name. “This scenario is derived concept-for-concept from Rabbinic writings in the mystic ‘holy book’ Kabbala dating back at least two millennia.”

It seems that the actual author or analyst, I guess you might say, was a fellow named Marshall Hall, the husband of Bridges campaign manager, Bonnie Hall. Then they sent it out over Bridges’ signature to state legislators in Texas, California, New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania and Ohio. And they didn’t stop by letting the cat out of the bag on evolution. They also blew the whistle on all this hokum about the earth revolving around the Sun. …….

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Truthiman and Snake,

VERY S-l-o-w-l-y now for the twin dunces of the confederacy:

General Petreus presented HIS surge plan to Congress in order to obtain their approval for HIS nomination.

Congress approved him U-N-A-N-I-M-O-U-S-L-Y.

Are you saying that we should have stayed the course with the old generals, and not approved General Petreus’ nomination which was (once again for the slowpokes) approved after presenting his new strategy in Iraq in great detail?

Cut ‘n’ run is the only strategy you’d be satisfied with.

Now perhaps you can explain what on Earth Sinclair Lewis’ innacurate quote has to do with anything under discussion.

The fact is that if Lewis was truly a seer he would have replaced the word “cross” with “Star and Crescent” -and that IS relevant to the Iraq War.

By Mad As Zell

February 16, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Morons in Congress, Morons in the White House, Morons running the country….INTO THE GROUND!!!! There’s only one man that can clean this mess up…one Mr. Ruldolph Guiliani, a true American hero who can clean this current mess, face down the Islamafacists and take a hard-line with the left-wing white flag-waving pacifists. I don’t agree with his liberal social views, but he is far and above a man of the highest possible character. Talk-radio show host Michael Savage once asked who can save us from this mess? Rudy Guiliani can save us, that’s who and, despite his socially liberal leanings, he can set the Conservative Movement back on its rightful course to take its rightful place atop American and worldwide politics. Add Newt Gingrich as a Vice Presidential candidate and you have a ticket that will get stronger as the election moves on and become unstoppable. RUDY & NEWT IN ‘08…The Anti Hitlerary

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

More of this adminstrations illegal activities.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/16/italy.cia.trial/index.html

I’m sure all this is OK with @@ and Buy Danish and Dusty and Andy. They know how much good information is obtained from kidnapping and torture.

Goodness how I’d like to “render” Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Wolfiwitz and Paul Bremer to the World Court at the Hague.

Maybe then our stature in the eyes of the world would improve.

Viva Italia!!

By Dusty

February 16, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

Brian and Goldie,

You exemplify what I am talking about. I did not mention patriotism but YOU did. Probably because it is a question which comes to mind, your own mind. But you are right about one thing, I will never go for your cut and run policies.

Speaking of minds, our enemies do have minds. The verbal attacks on this war by American citizens can only encourage them just as it did in Viet Nam. Our troops fight no matter what is said but I can’t imagine they would be encouraged by anything they read here by liberals.

Repetition indeed. Let me say AGAIN: I support the troops.

By Apocalypse

February 16, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Obama and Biden in ‘08!!!!!

By The Advertiser

February 16, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Seriously,

The ajc could generate a lot more advertising revenue if they could get a link on Al Jazeera’s website to Luckovick’s ‘toons and this blog.

Their readers would love it!

They would be thrilled to read all these liberal donkeybutts in here!

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Truthiman,

Awww. You break my heart when I hear about Al Qaeda terrorists and special renditions.

Do you think they played the Red Hot Chili Peppers too loud for the poor babums?

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Dusty - you are right. I think they talk about patriotism of others the way a certain televangelist talked about adultery - because he was guilty of the crime! Their’s is just, well it starts with a “t”.

By @@

February 16, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Now exactly what was it the Democrats said? “There’s no reason to believe the surge will have any positive effect in Iraq?”

Cutting the head off the nuclear snake, Iran.

By Daniel

February 16, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

George W. Bush lied to America. Republicans embrace the lie. They send the troops to die for it. One thing is certain: No Bush there, No Limbaugh, No Coulter, No O’Reilly, No Delay. None of the Komputer Kommandoes here will go. The Iraq War is bogus. If our nation was truly threatened a courageous leader would rally the nation to its survival. No, “Bush the coward” cannot and will not lead. America sees this. Is Cheney down at the recruiters office? The American troops see this. Quit whining. Get your fat a** away from the screen. Put down the twinkie. Get a life.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

{{Talk-radio show host Michael Savage once asked who can save us from this mess? Rudy Guiliani can save us, that’s who and, despite his socially liberal leanings, he can set the Conservative Movement back on its rightful course to take its rightful place atop American and worldwide politics.}}

Yes, the “family values” crowd of the Repugnants will just LOVE Rudy G., with his 2 failed marriages behind him now. And I hear-tell that he also married a cousin the first time… but, then again, marrying a cousin might count as a “plus” here in the outback, er I mean, south.

Oh, and we won’t even talk about all the love New Yorkers had for their dictator-mayor when he was in office… oh, and let’s not talk about how Rudy’s values allowed him to stand by Bernie Keric and his Mafia friends when he was up for the Homeland Security position in ‘04.

And yes, Rudy G. and Newt “2 failed marriages also ” Gingrich will be just the ticket that Dems want to see in ‘08… looking forward to it. Thanks for posting, Mad-in-the-Head Zell!

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, your religious bigotry is showing.

Sinclair Lewis was absolutely right. You just can’t admit it because you entire political dogma would fall like a house of cards.

Mad as Zell: You’re kidding, aren’t you? Four divorces between them? Cheating on their wives in front of the entire country?

Is OK for them to “Be Like Bill?” Adultery is OK as long as you have an “R” in front of your name?

Hope you two don’t have daughters…I mean that very sincerely. If so, I guess they are second-class citizens to you, eh!?!

By Dusty

February 16, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

For the last time: I SUPPORT THE TROOPS…..dying.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

@@,

Thanks for the link^^. I certainly hope we are ignoring this:

Sunni cleric Harith al-Obeidi warned the government not to target mosques as part of the military action…”Harming mosques and innocents are red lines to us,” he said. “Mosques are places for worship and are symbols of peace.”

Maybe they’ll advise the cleric to advise the terrorists not to use the mosques as armories in the first place.

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

Anyone who supports state-sanctioned kidnapping and torture should leave America catch the next flight to Pyongyang (capitol of N. Korea for you geographically challenged wingnuts).

You’ll fit right in!

Do you folks ever read what you write?

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

TruthIman,

Au contraire, snake, I think it is YOUR religious bigotry that is showing.

It’s the star and crescent that is wreaking death, mayhem and oppression all around the world.

The same star and crescent that was allied with Nazi Germany.

By Dusty

February 16, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Truthman,

You are a little late on your mind reading abilities. Why didn’t you go to the President and Congress and tell them how to run the country BEFORE you decided to cut and run and cry and sob over our war efforts?

And while you are at it, find all the records on body burnings, beheadings, body desecrations, and other atrocities by terrorists in Iraq who would love to do the same right here in America.

Yes, the Hague would be very interested in such information. They would also be interested in mass graves, village gassing and torture chambers under Saddam.

By Devastator

February 16, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

I am completly dumbfounded at the excuses I’m hearing from the right wingers on this blog. If an alien from another planet who was trained in diplomacy, righteousness, and the good of all mankind was witnessing the war in Iraq, he/she would consider Republicans guilty of treason.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Bwahahahahahahahaha.

Pat Robertson supports Guiliani.

P.S.

You are aware that FDR married his cousin, and that her maiden name was Roosevelt, aren’t you?

I linked to an elementary school site since I figure that’s about your level of comprehension.

Guiliani/Romney. Guiliani/Gingrich. I can’t decide which I like better, but they both rock.

By Dr.Doom

February 16, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Why don’t me and you get together and do some rocking.

By Dusty

February 16, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Nickjacker at 12:23,

Real cute but I am NOT a liberal. I support our troops who are fighting and dying for us while you liberals try to cut funds for them.

Don’t use my name just because you are too ashamed to use your own.

By @@

February 16, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Goldie:

Rudy supports conservative judges. Not liberal activist judges who legislate from the bench. I’m thinking this support, alone, would allow the question surrounding abortion and gun-control laws to be legislated from a legal perspective.

I’m willing to concede to the courts.

I don’t care how many times he’s been married. His current wife doesn’t fall into line with what I expect a first lady to look like. But then I didn’t know I was getting a “behind the scenes president” when I voted for Bill and got Hillary in the deal either.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

Devestator - I guess wanting to prosecute the war to a successful conclusion is treason? Wanting to fight the enemy there rather than here is treason? Believing in spreading democracy is treason? Then Woodrow Wilson (one of your liberal heros) was the biggest traitor of all!

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

{{Guiliani/Romney. Guiliani/Gingrich. I can’t decide which I like better, but they both rock.

Oh, Donut— you’re such the comedian! Can’t wait to see the debates with Rudy G. and his pro-choice, pro-gun control arguments!!!!!

By LuckoDull

February 16, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

By Amy February 16, 2007 11:17 AM Too bad that time has run out on you. You are already proven to be an imbecile.

Funny, but I don’t remember you “proving” anything yet.

That’s kinda like my whole point, where’s the beef?

Just because it comes out of your left wing pinko mouth and sounds good to you does not make it a fact.

And I’ll be right here to point out your lies.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Shawny

February 16, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

I agree…Obama and Biden in ‘08…

surest way to insure a Republican president is to put them in the race.

By Daniel

February 16, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Republicans need the illusion. They desperately need the lie. They want the lie. Look at that dumbo entry of 12:39! Bush is p**ing all over you and you think its raining champagne! “Spreading democracy!?!” You’re killing innocent people you dumbell! Bush lied to you, pal. You’re too stupid to own a computer. Turn it off. Push your fat butt away from it and go get a job. Take this slowly: Webb beat Allen in Virginia. It’s over. America needs the truth. Support the truth!

By Devastator

February 16, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Edwin Williams,

I’m getting a little tired of your mindless ravings. Treason is forcing your military into an idiotic homicidal situation in a foreign country based on a lie. Got it?

By Blackadder

February 16, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Apparently “supporting the troops” in neocon means “whatever the Preznit says”.

By Paul

February 16, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Gen Shinseki was “retired in place” about 18 months before his troop level comments. He made several public comments that marginalized his effectiveness. Seen by many as a “Clinton general.” Report in Newsweek - generals sent out from SecDefs office after third presentation to try again - one remarked “I don’t know what he wants me to say.” That was the problem - it was no longer about what the SecDef “wanted to hear” it was about presenting and defending, identifying other options and presenting reasons they were rejected.

Gen Zinni was mum during his tour at CENTCOM (the Unified Command in charge of Iraq) - neither he nor his staff identified the likelihood of the current situation - let alone prepare a plan for dealing with it. Fired generals? I’d don’t know of any in this context (as opposed to the number who honorably left, then remained silent, when they had differences with the previous President). That was not to say “Clinton bad, Bush good” - it was meant to illustrate how people from the same profession conducted themselves.

By Apocalypse

February 16, 2007 01:00 PM | Link to this

Edwin:

Didn’t I see you on “To Catch a Predator”? What are you doing free?

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 01:01 PM | Link to this

Devestator - You make me tired. If someone disagrees with you, then that person is the devil! You just don’t get it. Also, even Hillary Clinton stated the same reasons for going into Iraq as the administration. Everyone, and I do mean everyone, had the same intelligence. Get off your insulting high-horse.

By Shawny

February 16, 2007 01:01 PM | Link to this

Goldie…here is where you just don’t get it…

“Can’t wait to see the debates with Rudy G. and his pro-choice, pro-gun control arguments!!!!!”

Moderates and Conservatives (in general) look at Rudy and see a candidate that would make a good leader. Hyper partisan libs like you look at him as confused.

He has made very clear that he is pro-choice and understands that Roe has become precedent. He knew that assault weapons and no weapons control in a crime ridden city like NY would not help him clean it up, so he clamped down. NYC is so much better now than when Koch was around. We look at him in a positive light, and don’t get hung up on one or two issues. That is what is called LEADERSHIP, not partisanship.

Frankly, it is rare that a candidate agrees with everyone on everything, unless you are an uber-lib and like Kennedy, or a neo-con and like Cheney.

Anyone that opens their eyes and ears knows exactly where politicians like Rudy, Newt, Biden, Pelosi, Bush, and Kennedy stand. Clinton, Kerry, McCain, Obama (the rookie)…..not so sure. And if they sway from former positions held, they are even shakier.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 01:02 PM | Link to this

@@,

I like Guiliani’s current wife. Donna “Vagina Monologues” Hanover is a different story - not even suitable as First Lady of NYC.

Goldie,

It is very revealing that you refer to Guiliani as a “dictator”. What’s the matter, does it bother you that they went after turnstile jumpers and graffiti “artists”? Or maybe you’re a champion of the “rights” of people like “Billie Boggs”?

Remember Billie Boggs (a. k. a. Joyce Brown), the psychotic colonizer of a steam grate on Second Avenue who became liberals’ favorite symbol of the right to live on the streets? From her sidewalk campsite, Brown ran into traffic, threatened passersby, covered herself in feces and tore up, burned and urinated on paper money given to her by pedestrians. Her sisters begged that she be hospitalized for her drug-exacerbated psychoses, and New York Mayor Ed Koch agreed.

But the New York Civil Liberties Union successfully fought Koch’s effort to get her off the streets and into treatment. The left-wing trial judge who ordered Brown back onto the steam grate set a decades-long pattern: His unctuous moralizing was directly at odds with his actions. “It is my hope that the plight [Brown] represents will also offend moral conscience and rouse it to action,” wrote Judge Robert Lippmann self-righteously.

Having had the misfortune to live in NYC under the limosine liberal Mayor Lindsay and the hopelessly incompetent Mayor Dinkins, I appreciate the amazing feats that Guiliani accomplished. Indeed I can think of no single individual whose policies have had such a lasting and positive impact despite the squawks and shrieks from mean-spirited Leftists like you.

By Blackadder

February 16, 2007 01:04 PM | Link to this

A doctor refused to treat a child because her mother has (gasp) tattoos.

The doctor said he is just following his beliefs, creating a Christian atmosphere for his patients.

Tasha Childress said it’s discrimination.

She said Dr. Gary Merrill wouldn’t treat her daughter for an ear infection because Tasha, the mother, has tattoos.

I must have missed the 11th commandment:

Thou shalt not tattoo thy body.

By LuckoDull

February 16, 2007 01:07 PM | Link to this

Iraq’s Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki told US President George W. Bush by videolink that the first few days of their countries’ joint security plan in Baghdad had been a great success. “He told President Bush that the security plan had seen dazzling success during its first days and that the government will deal with every outlaw in a firm manner whatever group they belong to,” according to his office.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By @@

February 16, 2007 01:09 PM | Link to this

A conservative discussion about “Rudy on Abortion”.

So that’s evangelical Pat Robertson and “open-minded conservatives” who would support Rudy.

Yep…Rudy might do it for me. He’s tough on national security and tough on crime.

You see Goldie, it never pays to label all conservatives as religious fanatics. If you were counting on moderates in 2008, you lost them with that careless brushstroke.

By Devastator

February 16, 2007 01:09 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish(The one and only),

We don’t need another right wing cowboy in the White House after having one for eight years! For a country to be properly balanced, it is necessary for a change time after time. Its the reason we have term limits and no kings. Four more years of right wing propaganda would not be good, even for you.

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2007 01:10 PM | Link to this

I believe Dusty’s intentions are sincere. I believe she truly thinks that by pushing for more pointless deaths in Iraq, she’s “supporting our nation and our troops.”

I also believe it would be dangerous to allow Dusty to operate heavy machinery unsupervised. You THINK you’re supporting the troops, Dusty; unfortunately, you’re not. Those of us fighting to get them out of Iraq are the real patriots and the ones who truly care about our soldiers.

Any time you want to wake up to reality and join us, we’ll be waiting. Over here, where we’ve been all along: on the RIGHT side of reality.

By @@

February 16, 2007 01:12 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish:

I really don’t know anything about his current wife, but if she was part of the VM’s, she’s bound to draw some feminists.

It was the Harper Bazarre cover. “The Kiss”. I’ll concede that I may have been jealous.

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2007 01:13 PM | Link to this

Shawny: “We don’t get hung up on one or two issues.” Oh, that’s freakin’ HILARIOUS! Thanks for the chuckle.

Tell me, when was the last time you mentioned Ted Kennedy without adding “glug glug, Chappaquidick”? Or Byrd without the prefix “KKK”? Or CLINTON, for that matter? Wasn’t his entire second term devoted solely to Republicans obsessing over the single issue of his sex life?

“We don’t get hung up on one or two issues…” that is absolutely great. I’m falling out of my chair laughing over that one. Whew! Funny, funny stuff.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 01:13 PM | Link to this

Devestator - how is Rudy a right-wing cowboy? I guess in the same way that, say FDR was one because he wanted to protect our national interests? Or Wilson was one because he wanted to make the world safe for democracy? Or maybe it’s because he is not a cut-and-run guy?

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2007 01:14 PM | Link to this

@@: You’re right; not all conservatives are religious fanatics. The religious fanatics make up the easily-manipulated BASE of the party; the actual leadership couldn’t care less about anything but economic power.

Great party you guys have got there!

By @@

February 16, 2007 01:15 PM | Link to this

Oops! Sorry Danish. I thought I saw a comma between wife and Donna. Read that wrong.

Anyway, “The Kiss” can arguably draw feminists as well. I read that somewhere. A woman standing in a dominant posture over Rudy or something.

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 01:16 PM | Link to this

Actually, it’s the whole god-myth that is destroying mankind.

If humans could rise above the superstition of a patriarchally divine slot machine that will pay off when they die, and rely on the person who looks at them in the mirror, Shia wouldn’t be slaughtering Sunni, Muslim wouldn’t be slaughtering Christians and Jews wouldn’t be slaughtering Muslims.

None of those religious identifiers would exist because everyone would realize we are all stardust.

More people have died in the name of their god than of any other cause, no one can argue that fact

By Dusty

February 16, 2007 01:17 PM | Link to this

Devastator,

Anyone who disagrees with you is only producing “mindless ravings”. And if you want to talk about treason don’t forget your most famous liberal Jane Fonda or Kerry who fought for his country then went over to confer with the enemy? Now you want to label our President and Congress with treason because you feel like it.

If you want to know who is working against the country, look in the mirror and say “There’s one of the people who wants to cut funds for our military while they fight for us.” Mrs. Pelosi has told us that is the aim of Democrats.

Maybe you will sit on the fence now and claim you are a Libertarian.

By Magneto

February 16, 2007 01:19 PM | Link to this

I agree with Devastator. Republicans should be brought up on charges of treason. Not to mention Cheney’s attempted murder charge for his shooting.

By Livin' La Vida Loca

February 16, 2007 01:21 PM | Link to this

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico- Ricky Martin, who was a headliner at the 2001 inauguration ball for President George W. Bush, has a message for the American commander in chief about war.

At a recent concert, the 35-year-old singer stuck up his middle finger when he sang the president’s name in his song “Asignatura Pendiente,” which includes the words, “a photo with Bush.” The gesture last Friday prompted cheers from thousands of fans in the San Juan stadium.

On Thursday, the Puerto Rican heartthrob repeated his criticism of the Iraq war and explained his changed position on Bush.

Ricky Martin is still “Livin’ La Vida Loca”, but King George is too “Loca” even for his main man, Ricky, now.

By ROTFL

February 16, 2007 01:21 PM | Link to this

“If an alien from another planet who was trained in diplomacy, righteousness, and the good of all mankind was witnessing the war in Iraq, he/she would consider Republicans guilty of treason.”

I guess there are a bunch of aliens in here huh??

Moonbat alert, Moonbat alert!!

ROTFL!!

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 01:24 PM | Link to this

Edwin,

Goldie argues that he’s a left wing dictator not suitable for conservatives, while Devastator claims he’s a right wing cowboy.

I think they need to talk and come up with a unified anti-Rudy p.r. campaign.

I think another problem is that Liberals are always in lockstep and can’t imagine that we don’t have a requirement that our leaders agree with us 100% of the time on every issue(see Lieberman).

By @@

February 16, 2007 01:26 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis:

(((Great party you guys have got there!)))

Thanks, I think so. Let me tell you something Brian. I’ve voted both tickets, but after spending time on this blog, you leftists have completely alienated me from the possibility of voting a “D” into the White House in the near future.

The radical left is your party’s worst enemy. Not the conservatives, and certainly not the jihadists.

The radical left leading the way of the Democratic party has proven you are the jihadists best friend, and our troops worst enemy.

Sad but true.

By Dog Gone

February 16, 2007 01:28 PM | Link to this

GUADALAJARA, Mexico - A federal court has cleared the way for TV bounty hunter Duane “Dog” Chapman to be extradited to face charges in Mexico, court officials said.

The charges against the 53-year-old star of the A&E reality series “Dog the Bounty Hunter” stem from his June 2003 capture of convicted rapist Andrew Luster, the Max Factor heir, in Puerto Vallarta, 210 miles west of Guadalajara.

When you begin to take the law into your own hands, you are wrong and must pay the price, even if you had the best of intentions.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 01:29 PM | Link to this

Truthiman,

“Blah blah blah blah blah”.

Yawn.

@@,

I wasn’t wild about the kiss but I hated Tipper and Al’s public makeout session even more.

I have no idea why that picture was taken or who the photographer was. Any picture of Dennis Kuchinic and his wife would look like that unless he stands on a large box, so I figure it’s a wash.

By Daniel

February 16, 2007 01:29 PM | Link to this

Republicans need to kill. This group of cowards need to endanger American troops. Bush was desperate to kill. “The War President”?!?. Republicans need to kill to justify their awkward beliefs. Once troops are in the field then it becomes: “Support the troops”. These dismal b*stards never served and never will. They lied to send Americans to die in a Civil War. If America is endangered, where is the sacrifice? If we really are at risk let’s mobilize the nation, draft the necessery troops to get the job done. Bush will never, NEVER do this. This is a political war built on a foundation of lies.

By Shawny

February 16, 2007 01:30 PM | Link to this

ok…Brian. It is apparent that you haven’t been paying attention.
In the post I just completed, that I (think) you are referring to, I mentioned Kennedy without the glug. In the same sentance as others where you know firmly where they stand, without any partisan attacks whatsoever. So, unless you are actually paying attention, or have something meaningful, STFU.

I mentioned Clinton also (H, not Bill). Her positioning moves between centristic (which is ok) to hyper left, depending on which audience she addresses. Kind of like when Al Gore would get in front of a black church congregation and begin rambling in that “preacher voice”. As far as Bill Clinton, I actually like him. Didn’t vote for him, but like him. Remember that? Didn’t think so. Weren’t paying attention there either.

I have always, from post #1 where Billy was mentioned, said that I feel sorry for him and really don’t blame him for his marital misadventures. Heck, having to live with the missus probably drove him to cigargate to begin with. My one, and only, issue with Slick Willie, was his sneaky way of dodging questions and his Teflon ability to absolve himself of any responsibility of anything.

And finally…regarding the one or two issues…I look at a particular candidate on the whole. I am not hyper-partisan and restrict my vote to 100% right (or left) leaning candidates. In practically every election, I have voted for one or more democrats as well, and base that vote on a myriad of things. Given the choice on the first Tuesday in November, 2008, between Hillary or Obama and Rudy, I make the choice based on where I think the individual (not the party) can take this country. Who is most likely to do what must be done.

Now, go back to sleep.

By Mad As Zell

February 16, 2007 01:31 PM | Link to this

I know who the left-wing french whine- drinking, linburger cheese-eating socialist pinkocrat femminazi crowd wants for President in ‘08….HITLERARY no Rod-in-her Clinton and Boratch HUSSEIN OSAMA.
FEMMINAZIS and ISLAMAFACISTS UNITE for triple-6-world domination. Hmmm…HITLERARY and OSAMA…kinda has a ring to it. It also puts the left-wing pacifist philosophy to work, which is “If you don’t just want to appease and sleep with facists then don’t just join them…elect, emulate and become one with your nation’s deadliest emenies” and seeing Hitlerary’s Nazi-like tendencies and. Barach Obama’s “OBAMA-LIKE” background of islamic education in Indonesia the ticket seems like a perfect fit for the democraps.

By HiJinx

February 16, 2007 01:34 PM | Link to this

PARIS (Reuters) - A European investigator probing alleged CIA abuses of detainees said on Friday the United States has refused his request to visit the controversial U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba to talk to inmates.

……..and the rest of the world wonders, “What is America hiding?”

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 01:36 PM | Link to this

La Vida Loca,

Well it’s all settled. Ricky Martin hates Bush, so Bush must go. Hillary and Obama can fight over his endorsement, and Hillary can offer cold hard cash.

These idiot celebs really should take Laura Ingraham’s advice and “Shut up and sing”.

This is for you moonbats who are throwing the treason word around, and clearly don’t have a clue what it means.

By HiJinx

February 16, 2007 01:38 PM | Link to this

OXFORD, England - A coroner reluctantly agreed Friday to a U.S. government request not to show in open court a cockpit video capturing an exchange between two American pilots in Iraq after they fired on British troops, killing one.

……and the rest of the world wonders, “What is America trying to hide?”

By Dusty

February 16, 2007 01:39 PM | Link to this

Brian C.,

Before I go, I don’t need you to tell me just whom I support. Some of our troops are dying for us and I am broken hearted when I see their faces on TV. But I give them the honor and credit they are due, not by saying they fought for nothing.

Keep on with your propaganda of nonsupport just like the resolution your political party is introducing.

If ever I heard of non-support, that is it. Next, it will be cut the funds so troops will have to cut and run. What a policy! What disgrace! What betrayal!

You sponsor all that, Curtis and call it what you want. It is not SUPPORT.

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 01:42 PM | Link to this

You know, Mad As Zell sounds crazy enough to actually BE Zell!!!

Zig-Zag! Is that you?

By @@

February 16, 2007 01:43 PM | Link to this

Dusty:

I had forgotten all about “the sloppy embrace” between Tipper and “the Gas Emission”.

I can say, with all honesty, I was NOT JEALOUS of that display.

Now see ^^^ Brian. That’s why I want the ability to bolden text back. I don’t like screaming. I could have left it in lowercase, but made it stand out. But I forgot…anything I say is…Oops, forgot again.

Either that, or “your opinion” doesn’t endure the test of time with me.

By The Party's Over

February 16, 2007 01:43 PM | Link to this

More former top aides to President Bush this week have joined the chorus that the administration is deep into lame-duck status with little energy to address much of its outstanding agenda.

“Look, there’s no energy there. I don’t see them doing anything important,” says a former key insider. “They’re stuck on the war.”

Another former Bush communications adviser said, “Nobody’s paying attention to them. That’s why the press and Washington is already so focused on the 2008 race. It’s over.”

Falls inder the category of ‘stating the obvious’, but dullards still haven’t gotten the message.

By Shawny

February 16, 2007 01:43 PM | Link to this

Whoa! Check this out….

http://money.cnn.com/2007/02/16/news/companies/chrysler_gm/index.htm?cnn=yes

Chrysler an American company once again?

By Paul

February 16, 2007 01:44 PM | Link to this

@@ Shawny

Just listened to a guy on radio discussing “political discourse” (discussing political views, policies, civily presented) vs “political bigotry” (haters - in the category of racial bigots - example given was “I hate what Bush has done (what Hillary will do) to this country” strong statement, not hate; “I hate Bush (Hillary)- again, pretty strong, but an opinion; finally, we’re there: “I hate Republicans (or Democrats) I hate Bush (Hillary) and anyone who agrees with anything he (she) says or does” or “you’re with me or against me - criticize my side or agree with those I hate - I come after you” (see Edwards’ fired/resigned antiCatholic bloggers); vs “political stupidity” (a couple of funny examples - repeated here often).

Good segmentation and identification.

Edwards’ bloggers were good examples of what seems to pass for “marginally acceptable” discourse on the web (bigotry playing to an audience), who, when put in an important political position, quickly become an embarrassment and a liability.

After this administration - and the Edwards example - I’m going to pay a lot more attention to whom the candidate selects as advisors.

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 01:50 PM | Link to this

Do the wingnuts ever ANSWER THE QUESTION, or do they just stick to name-calling and thumping thier chest.

PLEASE GO ENLIST. You love George’s War? Go fight next to the troops you so fervently support!!

That is the only answser for patriotic, Iraq War-supporting, Red-state loving neo-conmen and women!!

Since I work for DoD, I can direct you to several recruiters in your area, which, judging by your writings, is either Cobb, Chereokee or Forsyth Co.

Just let me know and we’ll get you in an ACU faster than you can say “Dick Cheney!”

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 01:51 PM | Link to this

Maybe we can put crack CIA noc Valerie Plame on this case to find out who Abu Omar is and why was he so important that the CIA kidnapped him?

By Shawny

February 16, 2007 01:53 PM | Link to this

There is a definite polarization and a left/right alignment. It is that way for 2 and only 2 reasons: money and power.

It takes the money to get the power, and once in office with the power, more money can be generated. That is unfortunate and not in the best interest of the country. Lobbyists, earmarks, kickbacks….not what we elect them for, but definitely what goes on.

If I could wave a magic wand, 2 things would occur: #1 - the abolishment of political parties, period. No confusion as to where a candidate stands, as they aren’t beholden to the party to get/remain in office. Take honest man, but general left of center senate vote casting Joe Lieberman. I like him. Know where he stands. Aligned with the party, except for 1 little issue…tossed under the bus, then backed over with the bus.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 01:58 PM | Link to this

{{I don’t care how many times he’s been married. His current wife doesn’t fall into line with what I expect a first lady to look like.}}

That’s another joke, right?? What she looks like?????

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2007 01:58 PM | Link to this

Dusty: No, you don’t need me to tell you what you’re really supporting. But you need SOMEONE to tell you, because you simply don’t know.

By IN THE NEWS

February 16, 2007 01:59 PM | Link to this

WHAT A MAN….

McCain will skip Saturday’s Iraq vote. AP: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), “a staunch supporter of sending more troops to Iraq, will skip a Senate vote on the war Saturday to campaign in Iowa while other candidates rearrange their schedules.”

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 01:59 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish - good point about Herr Lieberman! Poor fellow was almost left out in the cold for being an honest patriot!

By Paul

February 16, 2007 02:01 PM | Link to this

Shawny

Which is why I support federal funding of elections (not just Democrats and Republicans - get the Greens and Libertarians in there to shake thing up). Also term limits. I know the arguments of “peoples’ choice and will.” Valid points. But with seniority comes power - and I don’t want somebody’s Congressman from state x with that much power over my life.

Regards (2) - ain’t gonna happen, ‘cause taking away class envy and class warfare - plus income transfers - contradict the money and power thing!

But keep waving that wand.

By IN THE NEWS

February 16, 2007 02:02 PM | Link to this

AND NOW THE END OF THE WORLD>>>>

George Bush Jr. And Sr. Pressure Jeb To Run In ‘08 AP | BRENDAN FARRINGTON | February 16, 2007 01:19 PM

Jeb Bush, who hasn’t publicly picked a favorite in the Republican presidential race, privately is talking up the candidacy of Mitt Romney and steering some of his closest advisers to the campaign.

The former Florida governor has said repeatedly he won’t be a candidate in 2008 despite encouragement from his father, the former president, and his brother, the current one. But Jeb Bush’s support, even tacit, would be critical in the state that decided the 2000 presidential election.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 02:02 PM | Link to this

TruthIman,

I dozed off during your “religion sucks!” rant and woke up to realize that I neglected to mention that Hitler was a Darwinist and used the theory of “survival of the fittest” etc. to justify gassing millions of people to death (and killing a few Priests just for the heck of it). Dittoes for the Columbine Killers.

And correct me if I’m wrong, but as I recall Stalin and Mao weren’t big on religion either.

Also, I recall that those who championed the abolition of slavery drew on Judeo-Christian religious principles.

I know this is a difficult challenge for you - asking you to THINK and not just lump everybody together in one big pot with no regard to history, but if you are as smart as you’d like to be viewed you’ll take some of these historical facts into consideration before you blame religion (and particularly Christianity )for all the world’s ills the next time around.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 02:02 PM | Link to this

You right-wing loonies are really off the cliff today, if you believe that the NRA is going to support Rudy G.’s gun control stance —- BAWAAAAAA!

Too funny! Unless, of course, you’re going to have to get Rudy to FLIP-FLOP on the issue, just like you’ve made Romney do on the Pro-choice issue in order to run for prez… either way, I’m ROFLMAO!!!!

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 02:05 PM | Link to this

{{Pat Robertson supports Guiliani.}}

Oh Donut— now that’s quite an endorsement— I’m real impressed!

BAWAAAAAAAAA!!!! I’m so glad you’re breaking up my day with your constant entertainment!

By @@

February 16, 2007 02:05 PM | Link to this

Well Paul, I’m not working today or all of next week, so now is a perfect time to take issue with something you said the other day.

You stated that in what passes for “civil” discourse on this site one might say “Clinton is an @@s” or “Reagan is an @@s”.

I want to get something straight in my mind. Were you calling me a Clinton, a Reagan, or an a$$?

(Insert smile here)

By Screw Free Trade, Let's Fight Instead

February 16, 2007 02:06 PM | Link to this

Backlash grows against free trade- Worries about the dark side of free trade are surfacing in the United States in ways that could affect the course of globalization worldwide.

…….another unintended consequence of empire building is isolationism. This is especially bad because trade sanctions generally take much longer to achieve effect than military action but their chances of backfiring are much less and they eventually always work without enormous monetary and human expense to our society.

Could it be that if they had allowed economic sanctions against Sadaam more time, he would have been overthrown by his own people when their misery index finally reached their level of tolerance? It’s a sobering consideration when you consider that not one american soldier would have died thereby, and not one american dollar would have been spent to rebuid and arm a society which appears determined to remain our enemy due to religious extremism, anyway.

By Shawny

February 16, 2007 02:07 PM | Link to this

you don’t really want to go there on senators and representatives skipping votes, do you?

By RE

February 16, 2007 02:08 PM | Link to this

Shawny,

I am with you on the flat tax. Instead of progressive taxes, I think a flat exemption would be best.

Poverty line exemption for each adult (18+). No exemptions for kids or for the home or anything else. No payroll taxes for FICO SS..etc. Makes it easier to hire on new employees.

Tax rate set at 20% for example. Poverty line exemption set at 13k for each adult. Married couple filing jointly. COuple makes 50k that year, 26k is exempt, 24k taxed at 20%. they pay 4800 in taxes, effective tax rate is 9.6%

Married fileing jointly makes 100k a year. 26k exempt, 74k taxed at 20% pays 14800 taxes, effective rate is 14.8%

Married filing jointly makes 225k a year, 26k exempt, 199k taxed at 20% pays 39800 in taxes, effective rate is 17.6

No one would pay more than the 20% max, no loopholes for dividends, stock options…etc.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 02:11 PM | Link to this

Truthiman,

You work for DoD?? Doing what, pray tell?

By Paul

February 16, 2007 02:11 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Excellent points. If one add the death tolls from the last two centuries - warfare from political direction, not religion - well, that’s a lot of death.

As as been discussed, it was an issue for Christianity - until about, oh, 800 years ago. It was an issue for radical Islam until, wait, what time is it? Of course, the diseases the Europeans brought to the new world pushed the numbers up.

Go further back. Romans didn’t expand for their gods. Neither did Persians. Or Chinese. And if you look at the way warfare was conducted then, well, entire cities and civilizations were wiped out.

So religion, politics, skin color - evil people will always find some excuse to kill others. But the Hitlers and Stalins don’t mean we need to do away with countries or politicians -

By Shawny

February 16, 2007 02:11 PM | Link to this

Keep on hitting that crack pipe, G. And keep on giggling, too. YOU are the loon.

By Midori

February 16, 2007 02:12 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

check this out

de plane, boss!!

de plane!!!

By @@

February 16, 2007 02:12 PM | Link to this

It’s a shame Congress has set that vote for Saturday. Puts him at odds with his responsibility as a Congressman and his commitment to his faith. His Jewish faith prohibits him from working on Saturdays.

Kinda makes you wonder about the Democrats don’t it?

A big rush for nothing substantial.

By Paul

February 16, 2007 02:14 PM | Link to this

@@ 2:05

Don’t think I was citing you, was I? But to clarify, I really really meant Cllinton’s charm, Reagan’s wit, and “a $$” amount that would make our Congressmen envious.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 02:14 PM | Link to this

Goldilocks,

Let’s try again, with chapter one of your latest fable.

You said that the Christian Right would never support Guiliani. I said that Robertson is endorsing him. Do you understand the moral of that story or do you need me to explain it to you?

I don’t expect YOU to vote for Guiliani, but I do hope you’ll give old Ralph Nader your vote.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 02:18 PM | Link to this

Goldie - if Rudy is nominated, do you really think that the NRA will support Hillary or Barak over him? What have you been smoking today?

By Shawny

February 16, 2007 02:19 PM | Link to this

I say (slightly) progressive is required to get it passed. And I actually believe it is best, if the rate does not jump.

Reason: Staple purchases are needed by all, regardless of income level. Ultra rich are able to spend a much smaller percentage on what they need to live, whereas the lower income earners spend a much higher percent, and thus, require a modest break. Make me a lib in proposing that? eh…you decide. Probably not, though.

At any rate…. I think the progressive % difference between the lowest wage earners and highest shouldn’t be that far apart. Earlier example wasn’t that good, just some crap I made up. Maybe lowest earners pay 8%, highest 13%. You do not want to set it up to discourage earning more money, nor encourage the opposite.

No tax havens for the rich, no govt oversight needed, no reason not to do it. Feel bad for the bean counters at Block, but they can take other jobs in the new robust economy.

By Paul

February 16, 2007 02:22 PM | Link to this

Screw Free Trade 2:06

I rather doubt it. UN and other countries had subverted “Oil for Food.” First coalition jet shot down was by a French antiaircraft missile purchased two years prior.

Civilian hardships from sanctions become part of the propaganda machine. Dictators like Saddam don’t much care what happens to the citizens. Remember of pictures of all the dying children from no meds (while Saddam built palaces). Remember the outcry over starving N Koreans - how it was the US’s fault?

They can work - but it takes a hard attitude and willing allies -

By Shawny

February 16, 2007 02:23 PM | Link to this

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0216071giuliani1.html?link=rssfeed

is news? I can’t believe that would lose him any votes. Diva like behavior and demands?!? hmmmm….google Hillary.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 02:27 PM | Link to this

Midori— I heard a little bit last night about Rudy taking so many $$$ for his “speeches”, but they didn’t mention Da Plane requirement… too funny! Another “conservative” value, I suppose!

I also find it very humorous that these GOP loonies are now latching on to a former Dem with Dem values in order to find a suitable candidate for the Repugnant Party in ‘08! They’ve obviously figured out that those mainstream “family values” Americans don’t count for too much anymore!

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 02:27 PM | Link to this

The (note the sarcasm) ultra-conservative faculty at Emory are asking the same question that is on everyone else’s lips today: “What is Jimmy afraid of?” Could it be that he will be exposed as a truth bending, inept, anti-semite?

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 02:27 PM | Link to this

Shawny,

“Slightly progressive”. Sure, that will work./sarc.

Of course I think a sales tax is better because it captures the underground economy and people who are paid off the books, but as long as the flat tax isn’t really flat it ain’t a flat tax.

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 02:28 PM | Link to this

You also forgot to mention the Bible was used by your southern preachers to uphold slavery, too.

Religion doesn’t suck, it is just irrelevant, or should be.

Go ahead, justify the Iraq war behind your waving flag and cross of Jesus, just as Sinclair Lewis said in 1935

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 02:30 PM | Link to this

@@,

I think they set the vote on Saturday so people won’t know how they voted as it misses the major news cycles.

By Bass-Ackwards

February 16, 2007 02:32 PM | Link to this

GENEVA - Unrelenting violence and insecurity in Iraq could cause as many as 1 million Iraqis to flee their homes this year, the world’s migration body said Friday.

“The numbers of people that are being displaced are increasing every day,” said Jemini Pandaya, spokeswoman for the International Organization for Migration. “The security situation is not improving. It’s not changing.”

More of the Republican ‘Bass-Ackwards’ principle- Didn’t the Chimperor tell us that he was going to fight them over there so that they don’t come over here? Anybody wanna bet that a considerable number of this million Iraqi march end up here as displaced citizens and expedited immigrants? Next the Repugnants are gonna tell us that’s ok though cause these are all fine upstanding young Christian boys and girls that just need a little more help and America needs the ‘guest workers’.

Republican Bass-Ackwards double speak translator: ‘Fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them here’ = ‘Start a fight there that runs all the people out so that they end up coming over here’. Is there ever anything at all that Republicans don’t get ‘Bass-Ackwards’?

By @@

February 16, 2007 02:32 PM | Link to this

Oh my goodness Midori. Did you just link to rushncap’s old porn site at 2:12?

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 02:34 PM | Link to this

Truthiman,

Grow up. No one is using religion to justify the Iraq War, unless you want to argue that our enlightened belief in liberty and Democracy is based on Christian principles, but the peculiarities of the star and crescent is making it difficult for peace to prevail.

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 02:38 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

None of your business! You are not on my “need-to-know” list.

I’ll tell you one thing I did this week. I helped inform the police in a neighboring state that the bastards from the Westboro Baptist Church might be protesting at the funeral of one of our fallen Soldiers next week. If you don’t know what kind of people make up the WBC, go to their website, www.godhatesfags.com

What did you do this week to help a fallen Soldier’s family so directly? Nothing!!!!

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 02:39 PM | Link to this

Truthiman,

btw, they’re not “MY” Southern preachers. Every time you open your mouth, virtually speaking that is, you illustrate both how bigoted you are and how quickly you jump to conclusions not based on facts or evidence.

Assuming that people who blog at the AJC, or live in the South are originally from the South is about as stupid and narrow-minded an assumption as one could possibly make.

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 02:43 PM | Link to this

Ooooo…you hate Muslims and atheists.

Your pastor must be so proud of you!!

Why don’t you thumpers out there try living the beatitudes? Or, maybe read the Sermon on the Mount. Now, those are fine principles to live by regardless of whether you are religious.

Remember, you’re supposed to love you enemy. I don’t see you loving your enemy, BD!

By IN THE NEWS

February 16, 2007 02:46 PM | Link to this

That brings our total of GOP Senators who are either likely or certain to support cloture tomorrow to four: Senators Smith, Warner, Snowe, and Collins. By our count, the Dems may need 11 GOP Senators to get to the magic number of 60.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 02:48 PM | Link to this

Truthman - it never ceases to amaze me. You have turned liberalism and environmentalism and all the rest of those isms into your religion. It is a shame that you are so intollerant. You could learn from my “liberal” Christian friends.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 02:49 PM | Link to this

Truthiman,

I merely question how you contribute to our nation’s national security as you could be a liability.

As for those freaks at the Kansas “church”, GFY! That means “good for you” and, well, you know. I hate those MoFo’s as much as the next person.

@@,

Wow, it sure is shocking that Guiliani wants a plane that hold 5 people when he goes to his events, and wants a plane that is insured and meets safety requirements.

Goldie and Midori,

Are taxpayers paying for Guiliani’s plane? Do you agree that he needs a security detail to accompany him, or is that a privilege reserved for Madame Pelosi and appropriate only when the taxpayers and not private enterprise pay for it?

By @@

February 16, 2007 02:50 PM | Link to this

Truthman:

Pardon my intrusion, but The Westboro Baptist Church is comprised of biological family members, their spouses, and their offspring.

I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that a couple of them were previously ACLU lawyers.

Nuts don’t fall too far from the Aclu Tree, but I’ll verify that to be sure.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 02:52 PM | Link to this

Truthiman,

I don’t give a rip about atheists as long as they mind their own business and don’t try to tear down the institutions that have served us well since the first boat arrived here, and have served Western Civilization well at least since the time of the Magna Carta.

I do “hate” Islamists, and will not ever “love” that enemy, no matter how many times you preach from your phony pulpit.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 02:53 PM | Link to this

Truthman - you obviously hate Christians and probably Jews, but since you perceive Muslims and Atheists to be somehow anti-Bush you love them. The irony is that Christians are not advocating killing Muslims and Atheists. Oooops - that’s only being done by Muslims in places like Darfour and religious people are still being persecuted in officially atheist China. So there.

By Shawny

February 16, 2007 02:56 PM | Link to this

Maybe Bill didn’t inhale, but it is quite apparent that many here do.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 03:00 PM | Link to this

@@ - good point! I think that problem is that Giuliani wants to be a democratcially elected President and Madame Pelosi (being from San Francisco) wants to be THE Queen!

By Midori

February 16, 2007 03:02 PM | Link to this

perhaps the taxpayers paid for this as well

By Midori

February 16, 2007 03:04 PM | Link to this

the House vote is taking place right now

By BIG LIE RIGHT HERE

February 16, 2007 03:05 PM | Link to this

is that a privilege reserved for Madame Pelosi and appropriate only when the taxpayers and not private enterprise pay for it?

BIG LIE BIG LIAR

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 03:06 PM | Link to this

But, it’s OK to kill doctors who perform legal abortions in the name of some god.

I don’t hate anyone. I just believe we’d all be better served without the whole god-myth thing.

P.S. My family came here in 1640 on ships owned by William Penn. Suffice to say, my Quaker descendents were some of the first people off that boat you speak of.

Science in not my religion. However, I do prefer to live in a fact-based world. Not the one W lives in in his “beautiful White House.”

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2007 03:08 PM | Link to this

If anyone’s interested the “Stay The Course” resolution is being voted on.

So far we have five troop hating Republicans and one Democrat that supports victory.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 03:08 PM | Link to this

Slight correction.

Make that, I “hate” IslamoFascists. I really, really, really don’t “like” Islamists and consider them to be a threat to Western Civilization, even if they are so-called “moderates” and don’t want to kill the infidels, but just want to turn them into Dhimmis and impose Sharia Law.

This conclusion is not based on prejudice but on facts derived from events occurring all around the world and in Europe.

Note to truthiman, the religious “expert”: All Muslims are not Islamists, but I’ll let you do some of your own research for a change.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 03:09 PM | Link to this

Shawny - your discussion earlier of taxes was both informative and accurate. Very good work (from an old economics teacher).

By getalife

February 16, 2007 03:11 PM | Link to this

The debate is over and they are voting now.

The Senate will vote on Saturday.

Murtha is pushing for conditions on the funding and the four years, blank check, rubber stamp, $10 billion missing is over.

Much better than the failed gop bs.

By Midori

February 16, 2007 03:12 PM | Link to this

according to my 3:02, it appears that Rudy wants to be “the queen”.

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 03:12 PM | Link to this

True or false:

The ACLU has represented the KKK for their right to protest and assemble?

Answer: True.

The ACLU has represented the American Nazi Party for their right to protest?

Answer: True.

People who assail the ACLU obviously never research what the ACLU is about. They just go on Boortz/Limbaugh/Savage/Vannity’s word because it gives them another entity to hate.

Boogey men and money make the Repugs go ‘round!!

10 repubs so far supporting the Iraq resolution!! I guess they’re all “cut and run” wussies, eh Dusty?

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 03:13 PM | Link to this

Parrot,

Give it up! You’ve posted that a number of times already. What’s your freaking point?

You hate drag queens? You’re homophobic? You’re too stupid to understand the difference between fantasy (a costume worn to a “roast”) and reality (someone who really is a drag queen, which would not include Guiliani)?

Guiliani is looking really good, if this, the fact that he divorced Madame Vagina Monologues, and his flight requests are all you can come up with.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 03:15 PM | Link to this

Truthman - to quote Ronald Reagan “the problem with liberals is so much of what they know isn’t so!

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2007 03:19 PM | Link to this

BDanish: Thank you for finally admitting that you’re not a Christian, but rather a conservative.

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 03:20 PM | Link to this

RW is at it again with his Orwell-speak.

“Troop-hating Repubs?” It’s up to 17 now.

They hate the troops because they want to remove them from harm’s way in George’s illegal war?

If that is hating the troops, then we need a whole lot more of it.

BTW, please use a hyphen when using compound modifiers.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 03:21 PM | Link to this

Truthman - no one I know has advocated killing anyone who performs abortions in the name of some “god”. You are a real prejudiced, close-minded twit with a very warped agenda who likes to paint with a very broad brush. I wonder what my very liberal (politically) priest would think of a dork like you? He probably would just pity you, as do I.

By Paul

February 16, 2007 03:22 PM | Link to this

Edwin

Sorry this is a bit late - earlier you’d mentions private groups support for political candidates (NRA support) -

Frankly, I think they (like many entities) will continue to support/contribute/bribe both candidates - from their own website, they aren’t all that upset about the Democratic Congress (half a loaf is better than no loaf):

“The power shift is balanced in part by the fact that Second Amendment champion, and former NRA Board Member John Dingell (D-MI), the longest serving member in the House, is set to regain the reins of the Energy and Commerce Committee and will be a powerful voice for gun owners rights among his colleagues. Pro-gun Democrats will also chair some very relevant committees and sub-committees.”

Link:http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=2482

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 03:23 PM | Link to this

Ronnie Raygun set race relations in this country back 30 years and ushered in the meanest, nastiest time in our country until W was elected by the Supremes.

P.S. Don’t ride with the Scalias!!

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 03:25 PM | Link to this

Truthman - if they are voting for the Terrorist Appeasement Resolution of 2007, they are cut and run guys and gals who will be challenged in primary!

By @@

February 16, 2007 03:25 PM | Link to this

Just so everyone will know what the vote is about.

That cartoonist is a pretty good artist, but just in case you’re accustomed to ml’s scribblings, I’ll point out that the woman making promises to the troops is Pelosi, and the guy “hiding behind the jeep” is Murtha.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

February 16, 2007 03:28 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

I am a conservative and a Christian, but I believe in identifying and defeating the enemy, not loving them. I don’t know a single person who “loves” Bin Laden or people like Zarqawi, but I don’t believe that makes them apostates.

But the bottom line is that I’ll rely on someone other than you to “judge” me when the time comes.

Truthiman,

Your “descendants” are Quakers? Did they rebel against their dad?

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2007 03:29 PM | Link to this

LieGirl,

The resolution didn’t say a word about getting them out. It opposes reinforcements and leaves them sitting right where they are.

By Midori

February 16, 2007 03:30 PM | Link to this

Live House resolution tally: 246 yeas to 182 nays

By @@

February 16, 2007 03:32 PM | Link to this

O.K., that’s not a jeep. I have no idea what that vehicle is, but it’s definitely Murtha sneaking around back there.

I may not know my vehicles, but I know “Sneaky” when I see him.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 03:32 PM | Link to this

Truthman - again, give me some specifics. What did Reagan do that set back race relations? Was it signing the bill which made MLK day an official holiday? Was it his appointment of Colin Powell as his chief of staff and then NSA? Just let me know.

By Buy Danish, Sleazebag extraordinnaire

February 16, 2007 03:34 PM | Link to this

how DARE you people not agree with me?

how DARE you point out my stupid leaps of logic and lack of overall common sense?

I’ll fix all of you by calling you names when I can’t think of a single fact or well-reasoned argument!!!

THAT will show you!!!!

By Truthman

February 16, 2007 03:35 PM | Link to this

No, my family just evolved…hee, hee, ha, ha.

Goodness, I slay me!!!

Have a happy Democratic Presidents Weekend (except for Lincoln)!!

Hee, hee! Ha, Ha!!

By Buy Danish, Sleazebag extraordinnaire

February 16, 2007 03:35 PM | Link to this

anybody have a kleenex?

I need to wipe my nose, and all I have is a basket full of used Kotex.

I kinda like the smell, though.

By Buy Danish, Sleazebag extraordinnaire

February 16, 2007 03:39 PM | Link to this

I’m an inadequate lunatic who can’t spell, can’t think, can’t reason, can’t even keep this drool from dripping on my keyboard; however, I try my best to impress everyone on this blog in spite of my obvious shortcomings.

My daddy went to Harvard, so THERE!

That makes me better than you!

By Midori

February 16, 2007 03:40 PM | Link to this

will wonders never cease?

someone finally comes clean about herself.

There is hope for mankind after all.

By Edwin Williams

February 16, 2007 03:41 PM | Link to this

I’m off to Mardi Gras in my ancestral city of N.O. Bonne fete tout-le-monde!

By @@

February 16, 2007 03:41 PM | Link to this

Midori:

Do you realize that there is something very characteristic in your text that gives you away regardless of what name you post under?

By Paul

February 16, 2007 03:44 PM | Link to this

RW(the original)

Good clarification on the vote. But I’m still a bit confused. The purpose of the resolution is what, exactly?

BTW - Murtha’s proposed restrictions for troops is a pretty clever political move, given he doesn’t have the votes to take effective action to stop the surge, let alone withdraw the troops. At least I think he doesn’t. Maybe he does, but his party members don’t want to take a dicey vote for which they’d be accountable? That’d be a shame.

At least they guarantee two more years of theatre before ‘08.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 03:45 PM | Link to this

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that the Parrot is doing the nickjacking. She always flips out on Fridays and is probably having a feather-ruffling reaction to my one post to the poor, inadequate creature.

I COULD be wrong, but then again, I could be right.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 03:47 PM | Link to this

Edwin,

Laissez les bons temps roulez and have fun.

Parrot,

Busted.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 03:49 PM | Link to this

{{You are a real prejudiced, close-minded twit with a very warped agenda who likes to paint with a very broad brush. I wonder what my very liberal (politically) priest would think of a dork like you? He probably would just pity you, as do I.}}

Edwin-the-Christian, you should be asking what your priest would be thinking of you, if he knew you were spending your time here on this blog throwing stones at Americans that you despise. Take a good look in the mirror, you dork!

By Midori

February 16, 2007 03:50 PM | Link to this

@@,

Do you realize that there is something very characteristic in your text that gives you away regardless of what name you post under?

By @@

February 16, 2007 03:51 PM | Link to this

Amusez-vous Edwin. Évitez les imbéciles si vous pouvez.

As in swinging.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2007 03:52 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Mothra gets it two ways on this “slow bleed” proposition. He gets to defund the troops and gets to funnel contracts to his defense contractor buddies by way of forcing the government to spend money for Iraq in very specific ways.

You might even call it earmarks, so the more things change the more they remain the same. I think we desperately need term limits at every level of government.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 03:52 PM | Link to this

Oh, and idiot Parrot, if you’re going to Squawk in illiterate French and comment on my spelling-

It’s “Extraordinaire”, not “extraordinnaire” but maybe you’re hungry for birdseed a la mode, and it was a subconscious error on your poor, pitiful part.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 03:55 PM | Link to this

The new Repugnant mantra of “stay the course” is actually the same thing they tried in Iraz in ‘06, which only intensifed the civil war there… so this “surge” has already been done, and their attempt to do the same thing again still constitutes their “stay the course” agenda.

Sorry, Repugnants— you’ve loved the “stay the course” mantra for too long for it to ever un-stick from you!

By Midori

February 16, 2007 03:57 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I think you’ve been sniffing too many used Kotex.

Busted, indeed.

Hon, you need to realize that there are several people who post on this blog and Wooten’s who have a very unfavorable opinion of you.

Deal with it.

I don’t need to “invent” someone to tell you that you’re no more worthy than used gum on the bottom of my shoe.

I’ve seen you on the Wooten blog try to incriminate me when other posters put you in your place.

but like the cretin you are, you’d rather try to pass blame rather than own up to the truth about yourself.

So take your Sherlock Holmes act and stuff it. You and your little pathetic sheep sister-in-arms, @@.

I’ve decided from here on, I have nothing to say to you, as you have proved yourself of being capable of posting anything of substance.

When you do, I’ll check it out.

Until them, have fun with your used Kotex. Save some for @@.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 03:58 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

You have heard that people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, haven’t you?

Unfreaking believable.

By RE

February 16, 2007 03:59 PM | Link to this

I thought the conservatives all hated the french, but it seems like nearly all of you know how to speak it

odd

By Midori

February 16, 2007 03:59 PM | Link to this

P.S, You stupid b*tch.

you truly, truly ARE a stupid b*tch.

By @@

February 16, 2007 04:00 PM | Link to this

OMG, now Midori really is parroting, literally.

Very good my pet. Can you do it again.

By Midori

February 16, 2007 04:02 PM | Link to this

should read:

as you have proved yourself of being INcapable of posting anything of substance

By Midori

February 16, 2007 04:04 PM | Link to this

RE,

that stupid hag is all about show, and trying to impress.

it could just as well have been Polish.

she probably has a few French phrases tacked on her monitor at the ready.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 04:05 PM | Link to this

RW,

Do you know - can the President veto non-binding resolutions?

By RE

February 16, 2007 04:05 PM | Link to this

Murtha is pretty smart with his resolution. The way that it is worded does not limit troops or how money is spent, it requires that before a unit is sent into combat it must be fully equiped. It also recinds the stop-loss policy that has forced people to stay in the armed forces. It defines a combat tour as 12 months and requires that troops must have 1 full year between deployments.

Tough to vote against that, tough to say that he is not supporting the troops.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2007 04:06 PM | Link to this

Le donner vers le haut, perroquet. Vous vous êtes éclatés chez 3:40.

By Midori

February 16, 2007 04:07 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

yes -

the hag is unfreaking believable, isn’t she?

You guys have a good weekend.

That goes for the Hag, too.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 04:08 PM | Link to this

Idiot Parrots,

I was born in France. Just sayin’.

Queen Parrot,

Good job admitting to being the nickjacker.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 04:08 PM | Link to this

Here’s some words from Joe Scarborough, a conservative who seems to still know what it means to be a conservative (hint— it has nothing to do with “support this president no matter how idiotic he is”):

Even if you agree with me that this war was worth fighting as long as we believed Saddam Hussein had WMD’s aimed at America, at some point you have to face the facts: the Bush administration was wrong about those weapons, wrong about the nuclear program, wrong about their refusal to quell rioting early, wrong about Bremer’s gutting of the Iraqi army and police force, wrong about refusing to kill or capture al Sadr in 2003, wrong to tell the generals not speak of the coming insurgency, wrong to stubbornly refuse to give generals the troops they needed to win this war, wrong to make the “Mission Accomplished” declaration, wrong for the VP to claim that the insurgency was in its death throes and wrong to push a surge plan that the president’s top generals opposed.

By Midori

February 16, 2007 04:11 PM | Link to this

I forgot to add, on my way out:

@@, you’re also an unbelievably stupid b*tch.

As you’ve been trying to get my attention all day, just wanted to let you know that you’ve accomplished your mission.

Happy now, you stupid, lame b*tch?

later!!

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 04:11 PM | Link to this

Oh, excuse me, Donut— I did forget to include you in that previous “look in the mirror” post… you’re another one who loves to come to a known liberal-leaning blog and sling your hateful insults at anyone who disagrees with you. Your priest would be very proud to know how you spend your days promoting your brand of “Christianity”, too.

By @@

February 16, 2007 04:12 PM | Link to this

Actually RE, I don’t know a bit of french. I couldn’t find a translator that covers Acadian though.

But I sure do love their music.

By Dr. Phil

February 16, 2007 04:15 PM | Link to this

Dr. Phil says Midori has an inferiority complex.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 04:16 PM | Link to this

Vulgar Parrot,

Since you are commenting on the substance of my posts, I think it’s only fair that I point out that “of being” is poor grammar.

Try: …proved yourself incapable…

Just sayin’.

Oh, and newsflash! I consider it a compliment that you parrots don’t like me. You know, birds of a feather and all that. I’m delighted not to be one of them.

By Midori

February 16, 2007 04:17 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Good job in admitting you’re a stupid hag of a B*tch.

and a clueless, lifeless one at that.

Toodles………….

By Paul

February 16, 2007 04:20 PM | Link to this

RE 4:05

Yeah, General Pace had announced changes to Stop Loss and rotations a couple weeks ago. This may quicken the pace - but it was already on the table. The “fully equipped” part is also clever - amazing Congress now is demanding action yesterday on programs they haven’t supported for years - “fully equipped” will come with some pretty specific changes to what the services already define as “fully equipped.” Heck, all he had to do was defund the dental corps - troops can’t deploy if they’re not current on dental exams.

One-year tours? What’s his problem? Six months is a permanent move. Nothing magic about a year.

Supporting the troops? Or using them as political footballs? Now there’s a topic!

Sorry, I don’t speak French.

By Gypsy

February 16, 2007 04:23 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish the onetwothreefour - you like sniffing used kotex?

that explains a lot.

By Gypsy

February 16, 2007 04:26 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish the onetwothreefour - maybe you wouldn’t be so paranoid if you stopped sniffing used kotex. just a suggestion.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2007 04:27 PM | Link to this

So this is what I miss when there’s nice golfing weather on Friday. Are these weekly outbursts common in the avian world? There are a lot of birds outside my window, but they don’t seem to be going through the emotional distress of the nicjacking parrot.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 04:27 PM | Link to this

Goldilocks,

Hateful insults? You mean like calling Midori a “vulgar Parrot”, or calling Huge a “Blowhard or Gas Bag”, or N-GA a “Jackass”.

Yep, I’m Guilty!!!

By Gypsy

February 16, 2007 04:28 PM | Link to this

that link Midori posted sure sounds like you cave dwellers. bet you look like that too.

By RE

February 16, 2007 04:30 PM | Link to this

Bill Kristol chimes in on the resolution and murtha’s upcoming bill

Now I am sure that Murtha’s plan is the right thing. Kristol must hold a record for being wrong on nearly every prediction and observation he has made in the last 5 years.

If this guy picked football games, I would be rich. Just bet against him, he is dependably wrong.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 04:32 PM | Link to this

Gypsy ad nauseum,

You’re a disgusting little pig, aren’t you? Just like your Parrot friend - quite a menagerie you’ve got going there.

I wonder if all of you vulgar and vile creatures went to the Amanda Marcotte school of blogging.

By @@

February 16, 2007 04:32 PM | Link to this

Well gee Midori. I asked you a question, but you never answered.

Do you and rushncap hang out at the same “Smoking Gun” porn site. All I wanted was an answer, that doesn’t mean I was “desperate” for attention.

And now your 4:11 has REALLY GOT ME MAD. A lame b*** eh?

Well you’re just ah….ah….squawker er a squatter. Oh, nevermind, you’re still “just a parrot”.

Oh, and I’ve been meaning to ask you. Do you get to watch a lot of T.V. at work? You always seem to be watching speeches and such, coming in with newsflashes.

Just curious. It’s my nature.

By Goldie

February 16, 2007 04:38 PM | Link to this

{{I am a conservative and a Christian}}

Please do explain yourself, Donut — maybe we’ve just all misunderstood your message here day after day…

Why exactly are you here on the blog?

By @@

February 16, 2007 04:42 PM | Link to this

RE:

I’ve seen Bill Kristol criticize Bush on numerous topics. What I really like about him is his calm demeanor.

I’ve never seen the guy rant or interrupt anyone…never.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 04:45 PM | Link to this

“Why exactly are you here on the blog?”

Goldilocks,

You first!

By RE

February 16, 2007 04:46 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I heard that gates and pace were considering new guidelines for deployment. They are also considering lifting the 24 month cap on combat deployment. Stop-loss does not seem to be used much in the USMC, Navy or Airforce, but the army stopped over 10k troops so far.

I do not know how many combat tours troops should be forced to do. I think that after 2 tours, you should have the option of either volunteering for another combat tour, or opting out of any additional combat tours. After a while, 3,4,5 tours, it seems like they are just going to keep sending you back into combat until you are killed or maimed.

Scary

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 04:47 PM | Link to this

@@,

I like Bill Kristol a lot, except he is a big McCain supporter and I am not with him on that (outside of national security/national defense issues at least).

By Paul

February 16, 2007 04:49 PM | Link to this

RE

Not an unreasonable article. He nearly answered the question some of us have had:

“Top House Democrats, working in concert with anti-war groups, have decided against using congressional power to force a quick end to U.S. involvement in Iraq”

He didn’t say “how” - weak point of the article - but implies it is possible - and that a Presidential veto isn’t an issue.

Again, it is not a course I would take - but I find these articles that strongly imply “the opposition could have done (don’t specify what)” frustrating.

By RE

February 16, 2007 04:50 PM | Link to this

@@, for me it is not about him being calm or nice, or disagreeing with the president, it is about how often he is completely wrong.

I would rather take a guy who is correct and rants than a guy who is wrong and calm.

By RECRUITER

February 16, 2007 04:53 PM | Link to this

I’ve visited this blog 4 times today and have two questions: does Buy Danish ever shut up and can Buy Danish shut up long enough to fill out these enlistment forms?

By Paul

February 16, 2007 04:55 PM | Link to this

RE 4:46

Scary is right. Vietnam - aircrews were deployed for a day under 6 months. Six months would have frozen further rotations for a year. Home for a month, then back out. Went on for years.

I’m sure some of the leadership remembers those times. But to their credit they were given a task - and they’re getting it done. It ain’t pretty, but it’s getting done. Another reason I’m opposed to a draft (you there, N-GA?) - a ready pool of cheap manpower, noncareer, in for a short time - makes repeats like this seem possible.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 04:57 PM | Link to this

Well-said, Bill Kristol!!!

No, the Democrats and the antiwar groups shouldn’t “be seen” as “hand in glove.” But they are. The national Democratic party has become the puppet of antiwar groups. These groups do not merely accept-reluctantly—American defeat in the Middle East. They seek to hasten it. Some seem to welcome it.

The leaders of those groups believe their slow-bleed strategy is “kind of an ingenious thing.” In truth, it’s not really so “ingenious.” But it is disgraceful. In our judgment, it will fail as a political strategem, it will fail to derail the president’s policy—and we will ultimately prevail in Iraq. The slow-bleed strategy will, however, stain the reputation of its champions, and of the useful idiots in both parties who have gone along with it.

I also think the Dems and Rinos are too smart by half with their “ingenious” plan - in addition to the aforementioned difficulties.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 04:59 PM | Link to this

RECRUITER!

The parrots have started their Friday party without you. Hurry or there will be no room for you on the perch!

By Apocalypse

February 16, 2007 05:01 PM | Link to this

Recruiter,

ship Buy Danish’s mouth to Iraq.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2007 05:03 PM | Link to this

@@,

Apparently RE is such a devoted Bushbot that he doesn’t like Kristol going after the Chimperor.

/sarc

By RECRUITER

February 16, 2007 05:06 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse: we can only try once we pry that lethal keyboard away from him.

By RE

February 16, 2007 05:07 PM | Link to this

Jim Marshall of Georgia is one of the two dems to vote against the resolution. He represents the area around benning.

Kind of a cop out for some of the congressmen out there. They would not support or oppose the surge, but voted against the resolution based upon seperation of powers arguements. Lots of republicans did that, I heard tancredo be against the surge, but vote against the resolution. It seems like, reading the speeches, many more than 246 oppose the surge. Where is the GOP plan if they oppose the surge anyway?

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 05:07 PM | Link to this

Useful Idiot Parrots at work in Germany!

I am no fan of Paris Hilton, but…

But you’re so sweet most of the time, this must be a momentary aberration!/sarc.

By @@

February 16, 2007 05:08 PM | Link to this

RE:

I’m more inclined to listen to calm logic, not emotional rants. Predictions are nothing more than educated or uneducated guesses.

They’re useless in my opinion, cause it ain’t over till the fat lady sings.

There’s stuff going on in Iran.

“A strong explosion in Iran’s southeastern city of Zahedan on Feb. 16 occurred in a girls school, Fars news agency reported. Iranian security forces are engaged in a shootout with several militants.”

That’s the second bomb attack in Iran this week.

Whassup “Docmadenijad”?

By Apocalypse

February 16, 2007 05:09 PM | Link to this

He seems to be fixated on parrots and kotex. Are you sure he can pass the physical, even without his keyboard?

By RE

February 16, 2007 05:21 PM | Link to this

Funny RW.

@@, COuld be the start of that whole “regional conflict”. Scary stuff. The whole region could go up pretty soon, this kind of war is not confined by borders. We actually do share goals with Iran and Syria (Stability), but I do not think the current administration has the standing to be able to negotiate at this point, too many bridges burned, too many idiotic statements made.

This mess is spilling over into the surrounding countries, The Saudis and Jordanians are supplying the Sunnis, Iran is propping up Shia groups. The only ones coming out ahead so far are the kurds. That may end soon as they are in the process of kicking out sunnis from traditionaly kurd territory in the north. Hussein forced the kurds out in the 80s, they are taking back what was once thiers.

Anyone here realize that the Iraqi army is not permitted into Kurdish territory? they are already an independent country.

By @@

February 16, 2007 05:26 PM | Link to this

I don’t speak German either. Just so everyone knows who attacked Paris, not Chirac’s, ours….

“Paris Hilton was in Vienna on February 15, 2007, where she attended the opera ball. Some Time before that, Paris gave a huge autograph session in a supermarket - thousands came. About halfway through the event a group of onlookers, (((identified by some as communists,))) began pelting her with cigarettes and lipstick. Paris was evacuated immediately.”

Communists wear lipstick?

By Dusty

February 16, 2007 05:26 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Thanks for posting that great piece by Bill Kristol. He is saying exactly what I believe to be true. I certainly can’t see any difference in antiwar groups and Democrats. Just reading this blog could convince one of that.

I wish Kristol were back on Lehrer New Hour. I like David Brooks but Kristol is a little more forceful. I think we need that to offset the perilous propaganda being dumped on us now.

By AntiRadical

February 16, 2007 05:32 PM | Link to this

Excellent toon ML. Unfortunately, I’m not sure of who to blame for our troops lack of supplies, the current administration who sent them into combat ill-supplied or the previous administration who starved the military of funding during its’ tenure. I think both Dems and Reps have some measure of responsibility as regards our military preparedness.

@@- If you like Acadian, join us at the Atlanta Cajun Zydeco Association. Dances every Saturday night had been at the Knights of Colombus on Buford Hwy but are now moving to the Yaarab Shrine Temple on Ponce de Leon. Usually, “Steve Riley and the Mamou Playboys” are booked once a year around this time. Keep a look out on the ACZA newsletter, they are probably the best Zydeco band around today and a real treat for anyone interested in Acadian culture.

The association sponsers a free short starter class for those who don’t dance an hour before the dances are held; it’s good enough to get the fumble-footed like myself up on the floor. Not a dance competition or anything, just a lot of people having a barrel of good clean fun. It’s a great place to take the kids; my two rock n rollers actually love it. The association generally has cajun food, crafts, etc for sale, as well.

By @@

February 16, 2007 05:34 PM | Link to this

RE:

You really do need to get on board with “logic” as opposed to emotion. Maybe it’s just me, but I think Iraqi’s leaders have already succumbed to logic. A lot of the Iraqis want logic to prevail as well.

The Iraqi army may not be permitted into Kurdish territory, but the Kurdish army is sending three brigades, maybe four into Baghdad to help with the U.S. and the Iraqi government in the ———————> surge.

Notice which way that arrow is pointing.

By RE

February 16, 2007 05:35 PM | Link to this

Dusty and BD agree with Kristol. Further proof of his being consistantly wrong.

By Paul

February 16, 2007 05:41 PM | Link to this

RE

Very interesting, that is. Saw a report Iraqi gov’t was preparing a couple of brigades of Kurds (described as the best-trained, most disciplined fighters) to Baghdad - then went on with an analysis of what happens when you light a match in a dynamite storeroom.

Turkey’s a potential problem. Any moves by their indigenous Kurds and you could see Turkish forces moving on Iraq. Just gets better and better, doesn’t it?

You may be interested in “Future Jihad” by Walid Phares. (His web site is www.walidphares.com). There’s a section in the book about how our Mideast “allies” effectively “outsourced” their fundamentalist problem some years back - to protect their thrones - to prevent just what you described. Well, it could be more like “postpone.” Anyhow, you may want to skim that section -

Have a good weekend -

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 05:41 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse,

I posted nothing about “Kotex”. The “person” who did that is nickjacking my name and she is a Parrot who goes by the name Midori.

In other words, it’s one of you filthy leftists.

By @@

February 16, 2007 05:44 PM | Link to this

AntiR:

I may have to check that out. I’ll get my cajun neighbor and his wife to come.

Starter lessons? No need. Just the music, and my body will do the rest. Uninhibited and out of my control on a dance floor. That’s me.

If the neighbor’s wife won’t make room for me, I’ll have to dance alone. Semper is hell on the ol’ tootsies.

By RE

February 16, 2007 05:46 PM | Link to this

Logic. Now there is a thought. I thought I was pretty logical.

A few logical things:

We have set as a victory condition in Iraq to have a stable pro western government. We are not even trying for secular, woman’s rights… etc. Since the first gulf war, 100s of thousands of Iraqis have died because of US action either directly through combat in the 90s and the current war, Lack of US support after the gulf war when Saddam killed the shia we encouraged to rise up, or in the chaos that followed our invasion and dismanteling of security in that country.

Logic would tell me that there is not going to be any sustained pro US government coming from that country. What does logic tell you?

By LuckoDull

February 16, 2007 05:53 PM | Link to this

Quagmire!

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — With tourists streaming into town for Mardi Gras celebrations, a spasm of gun violence left two people dead and seven wounded _ more bad news for a city struggling to rebuild itself and its tourism industry.

Maybe this is where Filthy Mouth Murtha wants to withdraw the troops to.

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By rushncap

February 16, 2007 05:54 PM | Link to this

WTF @@? You know, I genuinely used to think you are better than this Danish / RW scum. I guess I was wrong. You’re the same little b!tch as the rest of them. Oh how the feeble have fallen.

By Buy Danish the Wun

February 16, 2007 05:59 PM | Link to this

RW and @@ you complete me. pass the kotex.

By Dusty

February 16, 2007 05:59 PM | Link to this

@@,

Glad you mentioned the Kurd Brigades going to Baghdad. They have been supportive of our efforts, something seldom mentioned here. I don’t believe that terrorists in the big city will be anxious to meet up with Kurds.

By the way, @@, you will need a washboard if you go Cajun. I listened to a Cajun band when the Olympics were in Atlanta. It was fun and the washboard was a fine instrument they used. Better than trying to wash with it.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2007 06:01 PM | Link to this

@@,

Apparently rushncap doesn’t like you talking about dancing. Maybe RE can explain the logic behind that.

By N-GA

February 16, 2007 06:04 PM | Link to this

Paul,

My position on the draft is that it is a terrific equalizer if it’s got good oversight. Other regulations (tour limits, etc.) could restrict abuses. Even during peacetime (ever?) conscripts would be able to work on US infrastructure, forestry, conservation, healthcare, etc.

But it also helps American decide when and where our military should be deployed. It becomes more personal. Every American owes something to our country. What better way than military service? Well, perhaps there are other ways…another discussion, altogether.

By Midori

February 16, 2007 06:07 PM | Link to this

I see the hag is still obsessing over me.

Dear, you need to grasp the reality that people hate you.

Why must you insist I’m the one messing with your head? Those must be some powerful kotex.

I’m having a wonderful time watching you aimlessly trying to blame me because people hate you.

Keep it coming Hag B*tch. Can’t wait to print this thread out.

People hate you, hag!!!

People hate you, hag!!!

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What?? No more French?

People hate you, hag!!!

People hate you, hag!!!

Come on, give me some more laughs.

People hate you, hag!!!

People hate you, hag!!!

By @@

February 16, 2007 06:14 PM | Link to this

Oh pipe down rushncap. I don’t care if you frequent those sites. I was having a little fun with Midori, but since you’re here…is that the porn site you linked to months back. I really couldn’t remember.

You said I was lower than Rosie O’Donnell. Now THAT was insulting.

RE:

I would have sent more troops in the beginning. I would have done some other things differently as well. Please keep in mind that I know nothing about military strategy. It’s the advantage of hindsight.

I do recall that we did not go in there to set up our own form of democracy, but to let the Iraqis form their own democracy once Saddam was removed.

You’re right. There are no boundaries that the enemy would not cross, and that includes ours.

It’s unfortunate that there has been so much outside interference. There’s no telling what may have been accomplished had there not been.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2007 06:16 PM | Link to this

…and she wonders why we call her a parrot…..

By Midori

February 16, 2007 06:20 PM | Link to this

I really can’t believe this dumb bell accusing me of stalking her.

Maybe if you weren’t such an insufferable, angy, hate-filled witch, folks wouldn’t be giving you such a hard time.

And maybe, just MAYBE, if you had a life outside this blog, you’d clue into the fact that others do.

I just got home from work. How the h$ll could I be posting any of the stupid crap you keep insisting that I am?

Poor deluded witch.

Get a clue, Hag:

People hate you, hag!!!

People hate you, hag!!!

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People hate you, hag!!!

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By rushncap

February 16, 2007 06:20 PM | Link to this

I have never linked to a porn site, @@. You must have me confused with RW. He’s the one obsessed with porn.

P.S. I’m expecting an apology here, but I know I won’t get it.

By @@

February 16, 2007 06:22 PM | Link to this

Ooooo Midori’s back.

Midori, may I say that I also don’t care if YOU and rushncap frequent the same porn site.

Really, I don’t.

To each his own….

By Just sayin'

February 16, 2007 06:25 PM | Link to this

Is that Midori or Medusa?

Definately a mind fried by liberalism.

By RE

February 16, 2007 06:27 PM | Link to this

@@, It is not any type of outside interference. You have to understand that these countries surrounding Iraq have a self interest in the outcome of Iraq. None of the countries, except for turkey, were permitted to be invloved in any way with this invasion, and turkey thought it better to not be involved. There are no regional conferences, we will not speak with Iran or Syria, the two countries that share the largest borders with Iraq. It is horrendous wishful thinking that this could work.

But back to the question, do you see a pro US government being sustained in Iraq, and if so, how if a majority of the people hate the US?

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2007 06:34 PM | Link to this

@@,

The site rushncap linked to wasn’t The Smoking Gun and after the AJC removed his link he denied ever linking to it for a few hours before admitting it the next day. I see he’s back to denying it. We should cut him a little slack though since he grew up in the totalitarian dictatorship of San Diego.

rushncap,

Get your dates off the keyboard and go try to have some fun. Go to a pet store or something.

By @@

February 16, 2007 06:35 PM | Link to this

Dusty:

Maybe I can find a guy with a washboard to dance with.

A six pack?

Two feet that aren’t lethal?

Semper will do fine. I’ll just have to keep my muckluks out of reach.

By LuckoDull

February 16, 2007 06:35 PM | Link to this

Looks like Midori melted down and lost it.

Again.

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By RW

February 16, 2007 06:36 PM | Link to this

I see the spineless Repubs voted like the herd that they are. The values party. Make a lot of noise but have no guts in the end. Same same.

By rushncap

February 16, 2007 06:37 PM | Link to this

RW — I guess I was not clear yesterday. GFY.

By rushncap

February 16, 2007 06:38 PM | Link to this

@@ — you owe me an apology. If you have 1/10 the decency you seem to think you have, you’d do it. We’ll see…

Sorry, gotta run. Friday night, and all that…

By RW

February 16, 2007 06:40 PM | Link to this

Repubs love to send the troops and support the troops because they never ARE the troops. history, fools.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 06:41 PM | Link to this

Parrot,

SQUAWK! I said nothing about you stalking me. I did say you nickjacked my name. Which you did.

You were the first person to use the word “k” word today, weren’t you? What a vivid imagination and disgusting imagination. Or maybe it comes from your own past experience, dirty girl? You do like to project your filthy habits onto others, don’t you.

@@,

The site that rushncap linked to was not the Smoking Gun, but there was a gun in the title.

By One Voice

February 16, 2007 06:44 PM | Link to this

Well, I’m gone for a few weeks and what do I find when I come back? rw lying, @@ talking about porn, and Dusty showing her ignorance. I guess some things never change…

By @@

February 16, 2007 06:44 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

I’m expecting the truth here. You did link to a porn site months back. Apologize for what? Having a little fun? Never.

RE:

If there are moderates in Iraq who are seeking asylum in other countries, then I have to believe there are outside of moderate influences in Iraq.

Will there ever be a pro-U.S. government sustained in Iraq? I don’t know, but I would be willing to bet there will be a memories of what radical extremists are capable of doing to their own.

By LuckoDull

February 16, 2007 06:45 PM | Link to this

Now I know why the libs are getting desperate:

An Iraqi military official, meanwhile, said the number of attacks and dead bodies have been reduced and displaced families returned to their homes due to the Baghdad security operation that began in force this week. Iraqi army Brig. Qassim Moussawi, a spokesman for the Baghdad commander, said only 10 bodies had been reported by the morgue in the capital, compared to a previous average of 40 to 50 per day. “This shows a big reduction in terror and killing operations in Baghdad,” he said on Iraqi state television.

It’s because the Bush surge is off to a big success.

We can’t have that, right pinkos?

Let’s call for a meaningless vote and throw the troops over the side right when they turn the corner.

Scumbag traitors.

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By rushncap

February 16, 2007 06:47 PM | Link to this

No, @@, you are lying. I never linked to a porn site. I was right, however. No integrity. Been getting by on cuteness all your life, or just on this board?

By Just sayin'

February 16, 2007 06:47 PM | Link to this

“Make a lot of noise but have no guts in the end. Same same.”

Sounds like the spineless liberal name jackers that infest this blog.

By One Voice

February 16, 2007 06:49 PM | Link to this

Hey, Granny’s here too! Granny, what do “The Lowest Animal,” “The Jilting of Granny Weatherall,” and “Inherit the Wind” have in common?

By Norm

February 16, 2007 06:50 PM | Link to this

Another week of rightwing hatred and gross ignorance exposed on this blog. Anger, bitterness, jealousy, failure are the only emotions you freaks have. Rudy and scum Gingrich - that’ll do it. the country’s in the toilet now - that’ll complete the flush. Pitiful people you are. This is a waste.

By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 06:52 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

What’s so special about Friday night for a wanker like you? Is this where you and, err, “Willy” are going for the evening?

You did say that you played Poker for charity, so this non-profit porn outfit could be right up your, uh, alley.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2007 06:56 PM | Link to this

@@,

Here’s where you printed some of the stuff from rushncap’s porn site

If you scroll up to 1:29 I reposted his admission.

By @@

February 16, 2007 06:57 PM | Link to this

O.K., it wasn’t the Smoking Gun.

The Elephant Gun?

The Long Rifle?

The Double OO?

The Starter’s Gun?

The BB Gun?

The Derringer?

By RE

February 16, 2007 06:57 PM | Link to this

@@,

You do realize that is our victory condition and the Bush admin will not leave until it is met. Our combat forces will keep fighting and dying for a victory condition that is not in thier control. This is an endless war, and is not about terrorism, in fact it breeds greater anti-US sentiment.

This is my logic.

How long should we keep our troops there hoping this pro-US government materializes

By One Voice

February 16, 2007 06:57 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I thought your comments were right on target so if you don’t mind I’ll quote you:

To Granny aka Buy Danish aka Wretched Hag,

“Maybe if you weren’t such an insufferable, angry, hate-filled witch, folks wouldn’t be giving you such a hard time.”

“And maybe, just MAYBE, if you had a life outside this blog, you’d clue into the fact that others do.” (She is a b***, aging housewife with no job other than to spew bigotry.)

“Poor deluded witch.”

Well said.

By Midori

February 16, 2007 07:04 PM | Link to this

to borrow a phrase from the Hag:

unfreaking beliveable!!

She’s still dripping her poison and venom all over this blog.

Now she’s picking on Rushncap.

What are you doing away from your cauldron?

I have a theory about you, Hag.

You’re a pitiful, lonely, personality-starved crone who is bitter about life and your only pleasure derives from trying to make everyone around you as miserable and vicious as you are.

Oh, that, and according to some, from sniffing used Kotex. Wish that one was mine, but I can’t claim credit. Darn it. It just seems sooooooooo “you”.

People hate you, hag!!!

People hate you, hag!!!

People hate you, hag!!!

People hate you, hag!!!

People hate you, hag!!!

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By @@

February 16, 2007 07:06 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

Lying? Don’t make me go look for your admission of guilt. I hate having to do that.

Cute? Well yes I’ve been called cute, but never on this board.

Thanks for noticing.

Have fun rushncap.

By Just sayin'

February 16, 2007 07:08 PM | Link to this

Damn Midori, does your vibrator keep getting stuck on high?

By LuckoDull

February 16, 2007 07:26 PM | Link to this

We POWs were still in Vietnam when Washington cut the funding for Vietnam. I know what it does to morale and mission success. Words can not fully describe the horrendous damage of the anti-American efforts against the war back home to the guys on the ground.

Filthy scumbag traitor democrats, lowlifes.

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By Buy Danish (the First)

February 16, 2007 07:32 PM | Link to this

Parrot,

What’s the matter? Got Parrot Alzheimers and can’t keep straight what you said or your nickjacking Parrot side said?

{{{By Midori

February 16, 2007 03:57 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I think you’ve been sniffing too many used Kotex.}}}

Stalker Boy,

She’s all yours^^^. Congratulations! You finally have a friend (and maybe even a “date”).

By One Voice

February 16, 2007 07:45 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Yes, people hate Granny, but she’s very important to this blog. It’s important for people to see the unedited thinking of the extreme right- the elitist attitudes, the bigotry, the sheer loathing they have for the working class, and the utter lack of logic in their belief system. Before I came here I thought the kind of thinking she exhibits could only be found in neo-Nazi camps in the woods of Idaho. But we have it right here, unmitigated dogmatism that no amount of evidence will ever alter. It’s truly amazing. It’s the kind of thinking that is often studied in adult psychology as the most extreme, maladjusted type of thought process found in the “normal” populace.

Andy is invaluable to this blog as well. People often come here to laugh at the clown and marvel at the ability of any human to be so obstinately ignorant, no matter how primitive he is. It’s like reading the rantings of a delusional, uneducated potion peddler from the 1200’s, a window into the Middle Ages.

And then of course rw fits right in between them. He will lie and spin and twist and rationalize and obfuscate so that no matter how wrong the conservative side is, he somehow makes it right. At least that is his intention. But of course the masses know better. They come here to witness the spectacle, the most obtuse individuals that America has to offer. Surely we owe them some gratitude.

By LuckoDull

February 16, 2007 07:47 PM | Link to this

Alright, one last post:

Plenty of folks find Malkin’s rhetoric overheated as well. “The donkey party,” she wrote last fall, “is led by thumb-sucking demagogues in prominent positions who equate Bush with Hitler and Jim Crow, call him a liar in front of high school students and the world, fantasize about impeachment and fetishize the human rights of terrorists who want to kill me. Put simply: There are no grown-ups in the Democrat Party.”

Say ouch.

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By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2007 08:02 PM | Link to this

Did OV just call me a centrist?

Well! I nevah…..

Better watch out calling my positions conservative there Oot. Your boyfriend, Blowhard, has a problem with the modern definition and tends to get extremely upset by it. If you don’t get any this weekend don’t say I didn’t try to warn you.

By LuckoDull

February 16, 2007 08:09 PM | Link to this

Hey One Voice: Is your political party turning against you and your blooming ignorance?-

Sophisticates and secularists have always titillated themselves by despising the Bible Belt. But professional Christian-bashers have never been as “embedded” in the liberal mainstream as they are today. And therein lies a problem for Democrats. More Amanda Marcottes are not what the party needs as it scrambles to re-establish its religious bona fides with wary red-staters. No wonder so many Democratic candidates are in church. Now they really have something to pray about.

It’s not like many people are stupid enough to turn on the One who created them.

Well, except you, I mean.

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By One Voice

February 16, 2007 09:41 PM | Link to this

Rw,

Take my word; being a centrist between Andy and Granny is nothing at all to be proud of. What would the midpoint between a Cro-Magnon and Medusa be?

Andy,

I don’t mind at all that my party is playing the religion card. The Republicans have used the religious right as their cheap w******* for 30 years. Karl Rove, supposedly an agnostic, refers to your kind as the “crazies.” They use ignorant folk like yourself to win elections, then implement their corporate philosophies and don’t pander to you again until the next election. The Democrats already have the intellectuals on their side; they just need to convince some of the not-so-bright Christian majority to vote for them. But your boy gw has been doing an excellent job of ensuring that more people flock to the Democratic Party with his ridiculous emperor act. Hell, he just gave us both houses.

Ignorance, by definition, is caused by a lack of knowledge. You have a lack of knowledge of science, education, and the origins of humanity and life itself. Your beliefs are not based in knowledge, but in superstition, the very antithesis of knowledge. You came from an ape, and it is truly a shame for those primitive apes that you, Andy, must unfortunately be considered an advanced form of their species. Surely they could have evolved into more worthy forms. Intellectually and morally, you would have to be considered a regression.

Now dance for us, Monkey, while rw grinds his organ.

By LuckoDull

February 16, 2007 10:08 PM | Link to this

By One Ape February 16, 2007 09:41 PM Karl Rove, supposedly an agnostic, refers to your kind as the “crazies.”

Type into google “Karl Rove” and “crazies” and what comes up?

Is it Karl Rove “apeing” his boss’s deeply held Christianity?

Nope, we get Cindi Sheehan, PETA and a MyDD article about the “crazies.”

You been fooled again, bozo.

“You came from an ape”

Pardon me Dullard, but What exactly created the “apes?”

Are you too “smart” to put two and two together?

Simpleton.

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