Mike Luckovich

By LuckoDull

February 1, 2007 07:57 AM | Link to this

If she had only meant it that way:

Why they laughed is another matter. Clinton may have unwittingly said something people thought was about her storied marriage to Bill Clinton. The New York senator offered conflicting explanations about her intended target at the news conference. Her warmth turned chilly when a reporter said the audience may have thought the “evil man” was about the “bad side of Bill.” “I don’t think anybody in there really thought that,” she said. But they did.

But if you libs want to change things around to give your preferred, falsified, make believe version of the event, go ahead. I actually think that your story tells us more about Hillary than you pinkos realize..

Distancing herself from her own husband, a former president, so that she gains politically.

Just like she has distanced herself from America and her vote on the Iraq war.

A cold blooded calculation from a political animal, an animal that only considers what’s good for Hillary.

Everything else be damned.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By LuckoDull

February 1, 2007 07:57 AM | Link to this

If she had only meant it that way:

Why they laughed is another matter. Clinton may have unwittingly said something people thought was about her storied marriage to Bill Clinton. The New York senator offered conflicting explanations about her intended target at the news conference. Her warmth turned chilly when a reporter said the audience may have thought the “evil man” was about the “bad side of Bill.” “I don’t think anybody in there really thought that,” she said. But they did.

But if you libs want to change things around to give your preferred, falsified, make believe version of the event, go ahead. I actually think that your story tells us more about Hillary than you pinkos realize..

Distancing herself from her own husband, a former president, so that she gains politically.

Just like she has distanced herself from America and her vote on the Iraq war.

A cold blooded calculation from a political animal, an animal that only considers what’s good for Hillary.

Everything else be damned.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Mrs. Godzilla

February 1, 2007 08:08 AM | Link to this

“We are the people who run this country. We are the deciders. And every single day, every single one of us needs to step outside and take some action to help stop this war,”s

Molly Ivins, Rest in Peace

By Mrs. Godzilla

February 1, 2007 08:08 AM | Link to this

Thanks Mike, for throwing the bottom dwellers a bone today.

By Shawny

February 1, 2007 08:13 AM | Link to this

cute toon. quite laughable.

What are those marks on the side of billy boy’s face? Cigar burns, stab wounds?

Here is a good one on Hillary and the fine line she has to walk to remain electable (centrist) and the pull to the left:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117030096019594631.html?mod=opinion&ojcontent=otep

Here in the NYT concerning the big Biden goof, which of course, is quite downplayed…imagine if a Republican has said that, the resulting backlash would have created a sonic boom… I only post this link because of the classic reply of the great Al Sharpton, with “I told him I take a bath every day” - hilarious.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/31/washington/02cnd-biden.html?ei=5065&en=ef2e1f1bb7a627da&ex=1170910800&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

By Brian Curtis

February 1, 2007 08:20 AM | Link to this

Good heavens, this cartoon only shows the Clintons!

How, oh HOW is Dusty going to manage to claiim that Luckovich is treasonously attacking the troops when there are no soldiers in the picture? Well, I’m sure she’s up to the challenge….

By Truthman

February 1, 2007 08:34 AM | Link to this

Let’s talk about “Evil Men”

Ronnie Raygun lied about Iran-Contra and THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIED.

George the Elder lied about his involvement in Iran-Contra and THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIED.

George W. Bush lied about Iraq and HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIED.

Bill Clinton lied about having sex and MILLIONS OF SPERM DIED.

Who but Andy/@@/RW/Buy Danish/ can’t see the difference in those truths?

You uptight, puritanical neo-conmen and women talk out of both sides of your pie-hole…Sex is BAD, but worthless wars to prop up dictators are just peachy!

Be glad there is no god so you can’t be judged - be very glad!

By Edwin Williams

February 1, 2007 08:37 AM | Link to this

He actually got one right! Now Luckovich can do one about how Bill knows all about EVIL women!

By Grits

February 1, 2007 08:41 AM | Link to this

Truthman - PLEASE CHANGE YOUR NAME! How about LIEman or HATEman. What you say has nothing to do with truth.

By Truthman

February 1, 2007 08:48 AM | Link to this

Uh…if you’d watched the news this morning, the Biden gaffe story is very prominent on all the networks and CNN(FAUX News is not credible so I don’t include it).

Don’t post if you don’t even know what’s going on in the day’s news.

By Truthman

February 1, 2007 08:51 AM | Link to this

Then refute it with facts, Gritzboy!!

Everything I wrote is verifiable if you wish to take the time and actually do some research as opposed to getting your talking points from “Sgt” Bill O’Reilly and Sean Vanity!

By Lord Help Us

February 1, 2007 08:51 AM | Link to this

Geez, Mike L.,

Don’t you know that any cartoon, news piece, etc. that references a Clinton will send the rabid wingnuts off into a foaming-at-the-mouth hysterical rage?

These poor, wretched, naive imbeciles are barely able to exist in a civilized world as it is and I find it completely unacceptable that you continue to torment them even when your satire is derogatory toward the Clintons.

For crying out loud, their loudest mouth (Lucko-Curl)considers a spontaneous quip about ‘Evil Men’ to be ‘A cold blooded calculation from a political animal, an animal that only considers what’s good for Hillary.’

My goodness, that level of unhealthy obsession about 1 of 100 Senators is difficult for those in the reality-based community to comprehend, particularly when one looks at some of the more bizarre statements coming from our 1 of 1 President(s).

will probably risk banishment again

By Screwy Wabbit

February 1, 2007 08:53 AM | Link to this

If the ability to deal with bad men is a qualification for president, then all the congressional pages are viable candidates.

By EXPLAIN THAT

February 1, 2007 08:54 AM | Link to this

GRITS - WHAT LIE?

SHOW US WHAT THE LIE WAS.

COME ON BIG BOY, SHOW US THE LIE IN THAT POST.

USELESS SACK OF POWDERED KOOLAID

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 09:11 AM | Link to this

Hillary is quite the bad comedienne!

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 09:14 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Lucko’s blogging world! Here’s maybe the best news we’ll hear about all day long today:

Al Gore Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

GORE/Obama ‘08!

By Paul

February 1, 2007 09:21 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla 8:08

Amen to that. Way too young to pass -

She was great in Texas politics - much is made of her barrages against Bush (as governor and President) but she came up when Democrats controlled the state - she was “equal opportunity” when it came to skewering politicians.

Only one I see in that mold now (with national prominence) is Carl Hiassen over in Miami. He’s also an hilarious author - I’m convinced all the “facts” he can’t doublecheck and publish in the paper make it into his novels.

NPR is doing some nice pieces on Ms Ivins now -

By @@

February 1, 2007 09:24 AM | Link to this

Shawny:

The marks on his face? Bill is selective in his affairs…

Women that aren’t real bright…

They’re easily confused…

Look at that nose….wrong target!!!!

Hillary’s little performance was the equivalent of Bill’s bitten lower lip, quivering voice, & tearing eyes.

His performance on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace…now that was the “Real Bill Deal”. Bulging veins and eyeballs, red with rage. The lips? Distorted, sneering, spittle spraying.

By the way Hillary, why didn’t Bill take out that “evil man” Osama?

That’s Osama Hillary, not Obama.

Poor Obama…he’s HER target.

By Mrs. Godzilla

February 1, 2007 09:25 AM | Link to this

Goldie - I’m with you.

My tee-shirt says Re-Elect Al Gore!

Ok, wing nuts - go nuts….

By TW

February 1, 2007 09:26 AM | Link to this

truth man - Clinton getting the BJ from a WOMAN is what sent the right up a tree on the whole affair…

By Shawny

February 1, 2007 09:34 AM | Link to this

Nice job by Obama in downplaying the Biden gaffe.

Yea, the Clinton admin played the status quo, failed to pursue and eliminate OBL, covered it up in Sandy’s socks, and 2300+ died. Did you mention that, truthman? I didn’t catch that reference.

Sex is BAD?!? sounds like a personal problem. sorry to hear that.

@@, yes, Obama is in Hillary’s sights, and I “pity the fool” in those crosshairs. Dead man walking.

By Eric

February 1, 2007 09:36 AM | Link to this

I know all the irrational Clinton haters will love this, but the fact is she was not talking about her husband. She was talking about George W. Bush, Newt Gingrigh and Ken Starr, among others.

By LMAO

February 1, 2007 09:37 AM | Link to this

“Conservative (sic) independant”

LMAO!!!!

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 09:39 AM | Link to this

Being a Texas columnist, Molly Ivins knews all too well who America was getting with the “Shrub” for president — may she rest in peace now.

By who_really_cares_anyway?

February 1, 2007 09:39 AM | Link to this

Funny.. When Hillary referred to “evil men,” I thought of ken star and his band of goons, who spent so many years (and millions) slinging mud…I think trying to tear people apart-at any cost is more evil than a personal/marital indiscretion between two married folks….

Just mho..

By @@

February 1, 2007 09:41 AM | Link to this

The NYT link. I’ve gotta give it to him, Al Sharpton has a sharp wit.

When the husband is watching O’Reilly, my ears tune in when Sharpton sits across from Bill. The two of them together make a great comedy team.

It’s a great example of give and take.

By Nomad

February 1, 2007 09:42 AM | Link to this

What is the world comming to? ML does a cartoon about a liberal and Al Gore gets a nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize. Oh what a day.

NOMAD

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 09:44 AM | Link to this

{{By the way Hillary, why didn’t Bill take out that “evil man” Osama?}}

@@— like President Clinton says, “At least I tried!” What can you say about your guy Dubya who was told over and over again about OBL being in Tora Bora, and he refused to give the go-ahead to take him outta there?!! Didn’t even try…

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 09:46 AM | Link to this

{{{How, oh HOW is Dusty going to manage to claiim that Luckovich is treasonously attacking the troops when there are no soldiers in the picture?}}}

Brian Curtis,

Thanks for proving Ann Coulter’s adage that “History always begins this morning for Liberals”.

LHU (Lord Help U)

I believe LuckoDull was referring to the pathetic cover-up that Shrillary used to try to explain her comment away.

As for “fixating” on her, you no doubt would prefer that we just sleep through her entire campaign so she can create her fairy tale fantasy world, starring the beleaguered Princess Hillary, uninterrupted by reality.

P.S.

I await a list of the U.N. Resolutions AND their signatories, which you claim that the U.S. and Israel “flaunt”.

Thanks in advance.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 09:47 AM | Link to this

Shawny

Another example of Sen Obama’s “classiness” - which will generate positive impressions among those who don’t know much about him but want a change in tone.

Sen Biden - takes a shot at Edwards (doesn’t know what he’s talking about) - Mocks Hillary (recaps her Iraq “plan” and says, that’s a real (sarc) good idea) - then fumbles with Sen Obama.

Y’know - if Sen Biden does stay in we could witness the first televised three-day debate among the Democratic contenders - and that’s just for Sen Biden’s opening remarks!

By N-GA

February 1, 2007 09:48 AM | Link to this

In reference to some comments late yesterday:

There are many more skinhead conservatives than millionaire socialists.

One other thing…I’m curious what your definition of socialist is, and how that applies to anyone typically referenced here. Liberal or leftist does not equate to socialist, at least not to educated people. The reverse though can be said to be true.

By IN THE NEWS

February 1, 2007 09:54 AM | Link to this

ExxonMobil has said its 2006 profit rose to a new record of 39.5 billion dollars in a year that saw all-time highs in crude oil prices.

Broken down by hour, this figure represents a profit of $4.5 million an hour, $108 million a day, or $337,500 a minute.

Glad 3081 American boys could help.

By Shawny

February 1, 2007 09:54 AM | Link to this

“At least I tried” cracks me up every time I hear or read it. I guess that depends on your definition of “tried”.

By Lord Help Us

February 1, 2007 09:59 AM | Link to this

BD,

Your stupidity was not assisted by a decent nights rest apparently…

Here is a start for you concerning Israel.

I am sure even you can find a number here that are not being enforced (or to use your term, ‘flaunted’).

You do your own research into the particulars of each.

I am not responsible for your continued ignorance, you will have to address that on your own…

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century!

February 1, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Question: “Why didn’t Clinton take out Osama?”

Answer: Probably because Osama wasn’t the biggest threat at that time.

Now My Question: Why Did - Reagan, Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, Cheeney, and George Bush (Sr.) put both Osama and Saddam in power and supply them weapons in the first place?

PNAC (Sometimes there’s no way to tell the difference between a “Bleeding Heart Liberal”, and a “Bleeting Heart Neocon” except for the Baaaaaa’.)

By Blackadder

February 1, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Good news: Al Gore nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize!

Bad news: Molly Ivins has passed away. R.I.P. Molly.

Looks like that’s all I have for today. Will be out until tomorrow.

Love you, BD :-)

By EXPLAIN THAT

February 1, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

REAL EXAMPLE OF CUT AND RUN

DROP A TURDLET LIKE THIS AND RUN

By Grits

February 1, 2007 08:41 AM | Link to this

Truthman - PLEASE CHANGE YOUR NAME! How about LIEman or HATEman. What you say has nothing to do with truth.

CHICKEN DOODIE

By Paul

February 1, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Goldie

Your knowledge of military ops is astounding. Kinda like saying if only we’d given Patton the go-ahead to take on the Russians we could’ve avoided the Cold War.

@@

Al Sharpton was on O’Reilly?!!? What?!!? Is he really a closet neocon who’s sold out everything he professes? Or maybe, just maybe, he recognizes that’s the most-viewed show at that time on cable (check independent surveys - not Fox surveys - viewership is split between Republicans and Democrats) and it’s a forum where he’s given time to make his points and not have just a “sound bite” reported. Y’know, I don’t know of any other show where he appears so regularly. Who’s appeared on O’Reilly? Sharpton. Kerry. Even Stephen Colbert. But Sen Clinton? Not a chance.

By Shawny

February 1, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

I for the life of me can’t understand why libs feel that conservatives have been so fixated on billy boy’s marital misgivings. I for one, like ole billy boy, but found his don’t rock the boat spineless policy and his ability to re-create the Webster’s dictionary a little shaky.

Today’s cartoon doesn’t suck, M, though I agree that Lucko either misread what Hillary meant by the bad boy comment, or, did it intentially…I think she meant Starr, et al, not her cheating/lying husband. Anyways, billy looks funny standing there with his pants down…

Just so no one is disappointed, especially my biggest fan, here is yet another cartoon that doesn’t suck, also focusing on the next president if you believe what Dick Morris has to say:

http://www.townhall.com/funnies/cartoonist/KenCatalino/2007/01/1

I like the buck teeth in the cartoon.

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Headline: Al Qaeda was behind ‘plot’ to behead soldier.

I’m looking for outrage from the “moderate” Muslims community, but all I can find is this:

The scale of the operation, which involved hundreds of officers, prompted a protest from some local Muslims, who accused police of over-the-top tactics

And the news that one of those poor, tortured released Gitmo prisoners may have been involved -

West Midlands Police said 12 addresses had been sealed off in the Sparkhill, Washwood Heath, Kingstanding and Edgbaston areas of Birmingham… They included an Islamic bookshop which was co-founded almost a decade ago by Moazzam Begg, who was captured and imprisoned in the Guatanamo Bay camp in Cuba before his controversial return in 2005

Followed by charges that the whole episode is nothing but a plot by the Brits to wag the dog:

There have been claims that the raids had been exploited by the Government following days of damaging stories about fundraiser Lord Levy, casinos and turmoil in the Home Office…”This terror raid has come at a very convenient time for the Government as it has taken a number of embarrassing stories off the news agenda.

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

{{Your knowledge of military ops is astounding.}}

So, Paul— why don’t you do your usual bloviating and explain what your guy Dubya has done to get rid of OBL…

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Idiot LHU,

Sorry, but I’m not interested in reading endless Wiki links.

If you have a point it is up to you to make it, giving specific examples.

Give me one resolution, who signed it, and explain how we flaunted it.

That is what any teacher would expect from a student. You know - “who, what, when, where, why important” like you should have learned in 6th grade?

Surely you’re up to the task.

By Swiftvoter

February 1, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Say what you will, ‘Madam President Clinton’ sounds very, very refreshing.

Having an honest president again would be a welcomed relief for the USA (particularly at this time).

Hillary, You Go Girl.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Goldie

Another formulaic, diversionary response.

You wrote “What can you say about your guy Dubya who was told over and over again about OBL being in Tora Bora, and he refused to give the go-ahead to take him outta there?!! Didn’t even try…”

I made a crack about your seeming lack of knowledge of military ops. Rather than explaining what you meant by Pres Bush refusing to sanction military activity in Tora Bora, (“I didn’t say that!!! I said Bush wouldn’t let our military kill OBL!!!”) didn’t even try (lots of good men were killed there - amazing they were someplace the Pres didn’t give them authorization to go) you avoid any clarification and revert to the tired old tactic of “oh yeah? well you just tell us what your guy has done.”

Good to see you know not to enter a marathon when you have difficulty jogging.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

N-GA

Yes, that was my comment late yesterday - referred to another conversation some time back concerning seemingly socialist-sounding politicians (vote buyers) who do all in their power to shield their assets from consideration.

You may enjoy the movie (out on DVD) “Sideways” with Paul Giamatti. The storyline centers around a couple guys in Calif wine country on a quest for the ultimate Pinot Noir.

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

{{Good to see you know not to enter a marathon when you have difficulty jogging.}}

HA, Paul— ROFLMAO!! You not only bloviate here everyday, but you also make claims that don’t seem to have much reason involved:

Exclusive: CIA Commander: U.S. Let bin Laden Slip Away

Typical of what happens when the only “news” you know comes from Faux News, Paul!

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Another link for you, Paul — it’s really easy to locate the info, if you’d only try… but I guess that means you might have to start backing up your “Bush tried everything” claims…

U.S. Concludes Bin Laden Escaped at Tora Bora Fight

By Lord Help Us

February 1, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

BD,

This is too easy and testament to your laziness and lack of any real intention to gain mitigate your ignorance.

Please note UN resolution 446 which, with lots of assistance from the US, Israel has ‘flaunted’ since 1979:

1. Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;

3. Calls once more upon Israel, as the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention, to rescind its previous measures and to desist from taking any action which would result in changing the legal status and geographical nature and materially affecting the demographic composition of the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, and, in particular, not to transfer parts of its own civilian population into the occupied Arab territories;

Ooops!! Clean Up! Aisle 3!!!

By Edwin Williams

February 1, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

It is just too amusing that all of you liberals resort to name calling when people question the validity of your arguments and opinions. You sound like childish little fools. I know the purpose of all of this is to vent, but y’all are the first ones to start hollering about “civility”. Give it a rest. Even pseudo-intellectuals like Adlai Stevenson could at least make civil if not cogent arguements!

By Quick

February 1, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Oh lets see>>Al Gore Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize>>and boy George is only nomination is for Americas most wanted >> >> The GOP is the most talking loud and doing nothing bunch of people in the history of the world >> it have not been 40hr and the democrats already got my gas under 2:00 dollars>> Do your thing Nancy and all the Democrats

By nuff-said

February 1, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

News item: Travel industry records a steep decline in international visitors to the US! Really? I wonder why? Travel industry representatives meeting today said: “The American government has to stop treating tourists like terrorists”. Gee, if they do that all the right-wing knuckleheads might feel bad.

By Well the lies were...

February 1, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

I could go on, but I have to go catch some more Fox News

By Shawny

February 1, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/26/coleman.cnna/index.html

Some bits at the bottom, relating to Clinton 42 (don’t laugh - I am thinking ahead) and pursuing OBL, Coleman is the former FBI agent:

HARRIS: His claim is that he couldn’t get the CIA and the FBI to agree on responsibility, for example, for the Cole attack and to launch countermeasures.

COLEMAN: I disagree with that.

HARRIS: He said he had a battle plan drawn up to go into Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban, and launch a full-scale search for bin Laden.

COLEMAN: Well, he didn’t do it.

HARRIS: Did you see evidence of a plan?

COLEMAN: Not at my level. No, sir.

HARRIS: So what do you make of his claim?

COLEMAN: He was saying that he made a very specific statement about getting a forward operating base in one of the former Soviet republics which he was not able to get. … You don’t need a forward base in one of the former Soviet republics to go in and do a quick operation.

Depends on your definition of “tried”. Still cracks me up.

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

I thought you didn’t like getting our soldiers slaughtered just to go after one guy that’s contained. Since all he does is record a tape of Democrat talking points every few months perhaps you are advocating taking out Democrats.

Truthiness,

Opposition to communist expansion through the Sandinistas probably saved millions of lives. Shouldn’t you be erecting statues for Reagan and Bush 41 for holding the death toll so low?

By Ol' Pa

February 1, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Few are more sensitive than me to patronizing words that people too often use to refer to distinguished black people, ie “dignified” and “articulate.” Yet these are still positive descriptions. Does Joe Biden really need to be treated like he said the n-word for using one of them? I’m just asking.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Goldie

This is rich - you hang your hat on a (okay, let’s ridicule the messenger )source reported in “MSNBC - our claim to fame is we’re not Fox”) source who’s a field operative writing a book who said, in effect, General Franks was a liar. Great source. Just great.

Just so it’s clear what got my ire up this morning - an accusation that a Commander in Chief would knowingly not authorize military operations to take out a high-ranking enemy when there were no contravening political considerations is highly irresponsible.

You seem to be in the same league as those conspiracy theorists (notably Republican Congressmen in the 40’s and others today) who selectively read documentary evidence and assert Pres Roosevelt knew of the Japanes plans to attack Pearl Harbor and let it occur to bring America into the war.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Goldie

“Escaping” is a far cry from “the President refused to authorize US forces…”

By nuff-said

February 1, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

More lies: “Iraq has uranium from Africa for nuclear weapons”. Did you see the John Stewart piece yesterday in a Midori post? Uproarious! “We don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud”. More to come.

By @@

February 1, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Goldie:

You sure do become defensive when it comes to Bill. Tell me…do you defend his assessment of Iraq as a threat:

(((According to the Clinton Justice Department’s spring 1998 indictment of bin Laden, “Al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.”)))

The war in Afghanistan was launched in an attempt to take out Bin Laden. There are people smarter than you. Do you consider Colin Powell smarter than you?

It is clear the administration is not looking just at bin Laden, though he has become a figurehead for a terror movement that could include several dozen loosely aligned organizations with operations in as many as 60 countries. Several individuals aside from bin Laden have been pinned as comprising a wider al Qaeda brain trust.

Speaking at the State Department on Monday afternoon, Secretary of State Colin Powell said several leads were being followed, all of them leading back to al Qaeda as a center point. He likened the organization to a wide-ranging corporation.

“It’s not one individual, it’s lots of individuals and it’s lots of cells,” Powell told reporters. “Osama bin Laden is the chairman of the holding company, and within that holding company are terrorist cells and organizations in dozens of countries around the world, any one them capable of committing a terrorist act.

“It’s not enough to get one individual, although we’ll start with that one individual.”

I recall reports early on…he’s dead, he’s not dead, he’s sick, he’s no longer calling the shots, Zawahiri is leading Al Qaeda, Zarqawi is Al Qaeda in Iraq, Bin Laden is in Pakistan, Bin Laden is in Afghanistan.

Do you have any questions as to why Bush calls it THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR?

Now you can address the “Pottery Barn Rule”&

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

nuff-said,

If you freely change things that were said to what you want to claim was said you can make anything a lie.

Suffice it to say that someone that would change the word “sought” to the word “has” is the real liar.

By nuff-said

February 1, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Hapless Bush was so hungry for war he lied to get it!

By DebbieDoRight

February 1, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

@@ 9:24 — Why doesn’t Dumbya FIND the evil man? Is he and his father still in “business” with the bin Laden’s? I guess he doesn’t want to pi$$ off their business partners in the Carlyle Group………..

http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/25/feature3.shtml

http://www.bushwatch.com/bushmoney.htm

By @@

February 1, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Whoops! I don’t think I’ve ever gone long before.

Anyway, in conclusion Goldie…

Now you can address the “Pottery Barn Rule”& drink yesterday’s tea with your pinky extended. It’ll get us nowhere.

You leftists are so tiresome, and I’m off to work.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

Might as well make some money off these folks. You may want to buy some shares in Kraft. Kool-Aid sales are waaaaayyy up!

By nuff-said

February 1, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

Joe Wilson told him the Iraq-Uranium-Niger story was a lie. He knew it was a lie when he said it. Whether Iraq sought it, bought it or ought to have had it; it was a lie. Bush sent our troops to kill and be killed on a lie. Then there were rapes of children and killing of families. Let’s debate the meaning of “has”. Bush killed those children.

By IN THE NEWS

February 1, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

An alert on Fox News Channel claims that two Iraqi generals are suspected of complicity in an attack in Karbala, Iraq that recently killed five US troops.

“There are 2 senior Iraq generals that US officials say are now suspect of involvement in an attack against American forces in Karbala on Jan. 20th,” a Fox News host reported on air. “A number of people were killed. These gunmen apparently stormed an Iraqi security dressed like American soldiers and driving SUVs. So again, US officials are saying that 2 senior are suspected of taking part in an insurgent attack that killed 5 American soldiers.”

The fake US military convoy that kidnapped and killed 5 soldiers had previously been blamed on Iranian elements.

Originally, the US said the five soldiers had been killed during fighting, but the Associated Press revealed the US statement was a lie.

By Midori

February 1, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

So, @@

you really ARE speaking from experience, eh?

{{{{Bill is selective in his affairs…

Women that aren’t real bright…

They’re easily confused…}}}}

By Swiftvoter

February 1, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

First the neo-cons and the administration right wing ‘do-do-gooders’ declared that the mushroom clouds were eminent and Saddam must be stopped from nukin’ us!

Then it was retroactively declared that the war was to fight terrorism directly linked to the Iraqis!

Then it was retroactively declared that rendition, torture, spying and snooping on… we, the people, etc., etc., etc., was all necessary to ‘spread democracy’!!!!!

Now the right wingnuts spew the challenge….’Oh Yeah, well what’s the Democtratic Plan’.

Read my quips: STOP the insanity; end this trumped-up, immoral war and our continued annihilation of innocent Iraqis.

(Who knows, God just might Bless America again)

By Paul

February 1, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

Now on the Diane Rehm Show on NPR:

Frank Luntz: “Words That Work” (Hyperion) The Republican pollster who popularized the term “death tax” explains it’s not what you say, it’s what people hear.

His latest book - first buyers - Sen Harry Reid and Dick Durbin - fascinating

Link:http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Paul,

It wouldn’t be worth it. They would demand that Kraft be laden with windfall profit taxes and then insist they be given subsidized Kool Aid.

By Gwen

February 1, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

I love you Mike, for keeping it real. I think some folks are looking at the world in rose colored glasses.

To me you are not liberal or conservative, but real.

By getalife

February 1, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Midori,

Now we know hy @@ went to the dark side of wingnutville.

“Clenis”.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS 11:29

Work it backwards - US officials get their initial info on a specific ground action from - the on-scene commanders and the soldiers who took part. Questions of “what happened” flow down. Answers go back up the chain.

So, when you say “the US statement was a lie” - the information was provided by - on-scene military personnel

Careful, careful.

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

LHU,

Grade: F

You have given me resolutions made during Jimmy Carter’s Presidency that the U.S. was not a signatory to.

Review time: 6 Day War Cause and Effect

In the years before the Six-Day War, the Arab countries continually refused to acknowledge the legitimacy of the Jewish state, and Arab nationalists led by Nasser called for the destruction of Israel. Egypt and Jordan supported Palestinian fedayeen (guerrillas), who attacked troops and civilians in Israeli territory, then retreated to the Egyptian-controlled Gaza Strip or the Jordanian-controlled West Bank. From its Golan Heights region, Syria regularly shelled Israeli farms. For its part, Israel refused to accept Jordan’s control of Jewish holy places in East Jerusalem. Israel also kept tensions high by responding to Arab incursions with reprisals on Arab territory.

Read more to see how the Israelis decimated the Soviet-supplied Arabs, and how the Egyptians lied to the Jordanians (surprise!) claiming they had been victorious, thus drawing the Jordanians into the confict, despite Israel’s pleas that they stay out of it.

Speaking of U.N. Resolutions -

On November 22 the UN passed Resolution 242, which called for Israel to withdraw from the Occupied Territories; in return Arab states would recognize Israel’s independence and guarantee secure borders for Israel. Events, however, did not follow Resolution 242. The Arabs and Palestinians declared their intention to continue fighting Israel, and Israel refused to return the Occupied Territories under such conditions“>http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefArticle.aspx?refid=761570433)

And so it goes.

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Joe Wilson told the CIA that Iraq had been trying to set up a trade agreement with Niger. Niger has Uranium and goats to trade. Iraq already has goats. You decide.

By Swiftvoter

February 1, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Got Clinton?

By Midori

February 1, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Olbermann’s Special Comment on Terrorism

Yes, George Bush is a {{{smashing}}} sucess.

By getalife

February 1, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

Those terrorists in Boston are hilarious.

The led robot sign was shooting a bird.

Bwhahahahahahaha!

By Midori

February 1, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

He left her with a mouthful, and all she got was a lousy t-shirt.

By DebbieDoRight

February 1, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

{{Headline: Al Qaeda was behind ‘plot’ to behead soldier. I’m looking for outrage from the “moderate” Muslims community}}

Danish the soldier they were trying to kidnap and kill was a MUSLIM soldier in the British military.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21157101-2703,00.html

And people in his community, (the soldier’s) did protest.

By getalife

February 1, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

This toon is the toon of the future.

Imagine Clinton back in the White House with Dem total power in 08.

Oh, the karma.

Bwhahahahahahaha!

By Swiftvoter

February 1, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

I voted with my pocketbook….now I want change.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century!

February 1, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

RW? February 1, 2007 11:42 AM Are you spinning your web again?

Correction: Joe Wilson never told the CIA that Iraq had been trying to set up a trade agreement with Iraq.

[In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney’s office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake — a form of lightly processed ore — by Niger to Iraq in the late 1990’s. The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president’s office.]

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0706-02.htm

[However, related to the former point, Ray McGovern, former CIA career agent under numerous presidents pointed out on Democracy Now last year that for one thing, Niger is not even in control of their yellow-cake uranium- that all of it is accounted for and monitored by an international agency; and, pre-war Iraq supposedly already had 50 tons of which it had no idea what to do with it. Thus the point being that the whole Niger – yellow-cake incident is not only unlikely, it points to the bigger problem of how the 16 words got into Bush’s report when supposedly most people “in the know” knew this claim to be flimsy at best. McGovern also pointed out that someone probably suggested that they should lay the “blame”, if you will, on the British government- which of course, Bush did in his speech.]

http://www.davidcorn.com/WParchive/65.html

By DebbieDoRight

February 1, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Always good for a laugh on a cold, wet day!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R6WdZ9zxn0

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

The GORE/Obama ticket is just looking better ‘n better for ‘08 — the right-wing delusions get bigger with each passing day:

“I am convinced, but I cannot base it on any necessary evidence right now,” Kissinger told the senators, “that the president will want to move toward a bipartisan consensus” to stabilize Iraq through diplomacy.

By Midori

February 1, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Bush Administration “Postpones” Publishing EVIDENCE of Iranian Interference in Iraq

THE Iraqi Prime Minister, Nuri al-Maliki, has told the United States and Iran to take their quarrels elsewhere, saying he will not permit his country to be caught in the crossfire.

“Solve your problems outside of Iraq. We do not want the American forces to take Iraq as a field to attack Iran or Syria, and we will not accept Iran to use Iraq to attack the American forces,” Mr Maliki told CNN.

The US Under Secretary of State, Nicholas Burns, sent another warning to Iran against interfering in Iraq, saying US officials had “picked up individuals who we believe are giving very sophisticated explosives technology to Shia insurgent groups who then use that technology to target and kill American soldiers”.

However, the Bush Administration has postponed plans to publish a “dossier” of Iranian interference in Iraq, with some officials divided over the strength of the US evidence.

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

DDA,

I know that the soldier that they were trying to kidnap was a Muslim, and I am grateful to he and his brother for their service.

The point is that there is nothing but excuses, complaints, and re-direction of blame in the story that I cited.

The irony that Al Qaeda plotted to kill a Muslim because that Muslim was…killing other Muslims was not lost on me either.

Since peace marches are such a popular pastime with the Left and garner SO much publicity, I’d like to see a million man/woman march of Muslim moderates who peacefully besiege the perimeter of London’s Parliament to protest against extremist factions.

How long should I hold my breath?

By Lord Help Us

February 1, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

That’s right BD, it is a UN Security resolution that has been flaunted by Israel for almost 28 years with lots of help from the US. Glad you FINALLY get it!

I gave you exactly what you asked and you still act like a b!tch…

You can obfuscate about the occupied territories (and I tend to agree that Israel had and has every right to protect itself), but the component of that resolution, along with literally dozens since, dealing with the proliferation of Israeli settlements in these territories is tough for even an ignorant fool like you to deny.

Now, since the US invaded Iraq to enforce UN resolutions (if you can recall the original ‘justification’), would you consider it reasonable for another country to take similar action against Israel?

I’m betting you would apply a hypocritical double standard in that situation…

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

So: what Wilson actually told the CIA, contrary to his own oft-repeated claims, is that he was told by the former mining minister of Niger that in 1998, Iraq had tried to buy 400 tons of uranium from that country, and that Iraq’s overture was renewed the following year. What Wilson reported to the CIA was exactly the same as what President Bush said in his 2003 State of the Union address: there was evidence that Iraq had tried to buy uranium in Africa.

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

The McCain implosion continues, with his “Double-Talk Express”:

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., criticized Gen. George Casey for what he called misjudgments about the prospects for progress toward stabilizing Iraq during his tenure in Baghdad. McCain said he has “strong reservations” about Casey’s nomination to become the next Army chief of staff.

By IN THE NEWS

February 1, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

PAUL - NOT MY WORDS

CUT AND PASTED FROM FOX NEWS

PERHAPS THEY SHOULD BE MORE CAREFUL

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Interesting interpretation of resolution 242.

According to LHU Israel has to peacefully allow their citizens to be blown up and any retaliation by Israel is a violation. Sounds like the Jimmy Carter approach to wiping out Israel.

By nuff-said

February 1, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

70% of America knows Bush lied about the Iraq War.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century!

February 1, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

RW

Again doesn’t this little tag at the end debunk that very article itself as false?

[UPDATE: The Post reporter apparently misread the Intelligence Committee report; it was Iran, not Iraq, that tried to buy 400 tons of uranium in 1998. The report indicates that Iran was looking for uranium in 1998, and Iraq in 1999.]

When you said Iran already had goats, well they already had uranium too.

[and, pre-war Iraq supposedly already had 50 tons of which it had no idea what to do with it.]

RW? Do you even know what YellowCake uranium is and what Iraq would have to go through to refine it into a usable weapons grade material? Anyone with half a brain (even Andy) can see the impossibility of Iraq having nukes at that time.

I’m sure Rove wrote that “Mushroom Cloud” propaganda speech, so I can’t entirely blame Dubya’ for that sensationalizing of a critical speech that took America to war.

By Clementine

February 1, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

78% of Americans know nuff-said is an idiot.

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

nuff-said,

Could we get a link to the poll that gave you that 70% number please. Thank you in advance.

By nuff-said

February 1, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

RW: You’re wrong! You’ve been listening to way too much right-wing BS. But, even if you’re right. What judgment would cause the president to include that in the SOU address? What leader would say that? Why on earth would the leader of the free world say something like that? Bush repeated a lie to make a case for war. He wanted war. He wanted to kill for oil. He desperately wanted war. He betrayred America when he lied. Now we have 3080 dead troops for the lie. More to come.

By DebbieDoRight

February 1, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

Quick question: We send millions of dollars a year to Israel, why? What do we get out of it? By sending money to Israel do we have the right to tell Isarel how to run their country?

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

{{{pre-war Iraq supposedly already had 50 tons of (yellowcake)}}}

Nuked for brains,

Any idea what happened to that^^^yellowcake that Iraq had before the war?

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

{{CUT AND PASTED FROM FOX NEWS

PERHAPS THEY SHOULD BE MORE CAREFUL}}

HA-HA, that’s funny, too, InTheNews— probably not in our lifetime!

By Miss Manners

February 1, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

90% of Americans know that Clementine has no manners. And is a horse’s A$$ too!

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 01:01 PM | Link to this

LHU,

Just like a Leftist to side with the formerly Soviet-allied, Nazi-sympathising, Arabs against Israel.

I repeat, the resolution that you cited was not signed by the U.S., even with the Leftist, anti-Semitic, Jimmy Carter in the Presidency.

You and your side all claim to be for “peace”. A “PEACE” agreement was signed after Gulf War I with Saddam Hussein.

He flagrantly broke that peace agreement over and over again, and continuously defied U.N. resolutions that we WERE signatories to - all of which eventually led to war.

What good is “peace” if you aren’t willing to enforce it?

Here is an interesting review that takes us from 1991 to 1998. The idea that this guy was not a threat and could be “contained” after 9/11 is an absolute farce. The Democrats were right - we had to take military action.

Speaking of Peace - new topic!

Regarding Al Gore and his Nobel Peace Prize nomination, can anyone explain to me how blaming man (read “Americans”) for Global Warming creates an “environment” for world peace?

It seems to me that all Al Gore has done with his ridiculous junk science is create an “atmosphere” of hostility towards the U.S. which makes the possibility of “peace on Earth” all the more remote (albeit a cause to celebrate for the Left who want nothing less than the dissolution of U.S. power).

I’m running out…

later all.

By nuff-said

February 1, 2007 01:04 PM | Link to this

Newsweek Poll, look it up. Also, most Virginians voted for Jim Webb, and a Democratic Congress was elected last November. How do I know that? Hmm. Republicans are mad at the truth. They live in a pretend world. They agonize over their bumbling dishonest “Decider”. Americans, however, get it. No swift-boaters allowed. Just the truth. War means killing. Bush lied to kill. He ached to be the “War President”. The great new Alexander. He’s a flop. Own it.

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 01:04 PM | Link to this

Peanut,

That doesn’t have anything to do with Wilson’s assertion that Iraq had been making trade inquiries with Niger.

Although after reading the link Buy Danish provided at 12:55 I may be wrong. When I get back this evening I’ll check into whether Iraq had a cowpea shortage that needed addressing. If not, we’re pretty much back to yellowcake.

By RE

February 1, 2007 01:05 PM | Link to this

Funny one about biden

Just like barbaro

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 01:06 PM | Link to this

Another serious issue proposed by our GA legislators — Lord, please make them stop!

“You cannot cross-examine a camera,” said state Rep. Bobby Franklin (R-Marietta). “And that is not even going into the public safety side of it, where you have numerous rear-end collisions where people are trying to avoid getting tickets.”

By Brian Curtis

February 1, 2007 01:08 PM | Link to this

BD: Perhaps because global warming obviously is NOT “junk science,” and the competition for fossil-fuel resources contributes to ongoing hostilities?

Nah, it must be partisan America-haters. That’s the simple answer, so it must be true.

By N-GA

February 1, 2007 01:08 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I’ve seen Sideways…funny in many ways. If you are adventurous enough to make boeuf bourguignon, you should consider making osso buco. You can readily get veal shanks at Publix or Harry’s (Whole Foods). It’s a lot of work, but well worth it. A saffron risotto with asparagus tips works well with it. Try matching a Chianti Classico Reserva for your wine (Costco has a nice 2001 for under $20).

RW…I am now ready for your snide remarks…you can keyboard with that chili-pup in your mouth.

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 01:08 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

That one is easy. Anything that creates an atmosphere of hostility toward the United States immediately gets considered for a Nobel Peace prize.

By Midori

February 1, 2007 01:11 PM | Link to this

People have had it with this jerk

Jan. 31, 2007 - On Tuesday, President Bush popped in for a surprise visit to the Sterling Family Restaurant, a homey diner in Peoria, Ill. It’s a scene that has been played out many times before by this White House and others: a president mingling among regular Americans, who, no matter what they might think of his policies, are usually humbled and shocked to see the leader of the free world standing 10 feet in front of them.

But on Tuesday, the surprise was on Bush. In town to deliver remarks on the economy, the president walked into the diner, where he was greeted with what can only be described as a sedate reception. No one rushed to shake his hand. There were no audible gasps or yelps of excitement that usually accompany visits like this. Last summer, a woman nearly fainted when Bush made an unscheduled visit for some donut holes at the legendary Lou Mitchell’s Restaurant in Chicago. In Peoria this week, many patrons found their pancakes more interesting. Except for the click of news cameras and the clang of a dish from the kitchen, the quiet was deafening.

“Sorry to interrupt you,” Bush said to a group of women, who were sitting in a booth with their young kids. “How’s the service?” As Bush signed a few autographs and shook hands, a man sitting at the counter lit a cigarette and asked for more coffee. Another woman, eyeing Bush and his entourage, sighed heavily and went back to her paper. She was reading the obituaries. “Sorry to interrupt your breakfast,” a White House aide told her. “No problem,” she huffed, in a not-so-friendly way. “Life goes on, I guess.”

By Midori

February 1, 2007 01:16 PM | Link to this

a serious toon for a serious man. seriously.

By the watcher

February 1, 2007 01:18 PM | Link to this

Regarding Al Gore and his Nobel Peace Prize nomination, can anyone explain to me how blaming man (read “Americans”) for Global Warming creates an “environment” for world peace?

nope, nobody can explain anything to you toots

By N-GA

February 1, 2007 01:21 PM | Link to this

Debbie….the USA provides more than a $billion in aid to Israel each year. More than $2,000 for each Israeli per year. And that doesn’t count private money raised in America to fund Israeli organizations.

It amuses me to watch wing-nuts castigate the U.N. when it is convenient, then cite U.N. resolutions when it helps.

Israel was created by the United Nations. Yet since 1953 Israel has virtually ignored more than 100 U.N. resolutions. Acting as a member of the U.N. Security Council, the United States has vetoed almost every Security Council resolution brought against (condemns) Israel.

The U.N. requires that Israel return the occupied territories. There are more than 200 refugee camps where Palestinians who have been pushed off their land must live and die. The majority of those living there were born in the camps. The world has done nothing to get their land back…so they strap explosive vests on their citizens and send them to fight with the only thing they have…they don’t have planes and tanks like Israel.

I believe Americans would do the same if they were in the same position.

By the watcher

February 1, 2007 01:21 PM | Link to this

everybody knows clemitine is a tart fruit

By Midori

February 1, 2007 01:24 PM | Link to this

to answer watcher’s question

explanations all around!!!

By Midori

February 1, 2007 01:25 PM | Link to this

here you go watcher. another explanation

By Paul

February 1, 2007 01:26 PM | Link to this

In the News 12.31

Doesn’t much matter to me where the story was cut & pasted from - you said right in your post it was from Fox News. But, the original “news source” was the AP - so the “US lied” should go to AP - even though the headline I saw was on a Fox News site.

Care to tackle that one, uberleft?

This story obviously isn’t through. If the US command did not give accurate information, either:

They reported initial info, which was wrong.

They intentionally misled (lied). If it was to US media to make themselves look better - there should be action taken against the officers responsible. If it turns out they thought soldiers were missing and they wanted to put out false information to obfuscate the possibility US forces were on search and rescue, that’s fine.

By RE

February 1, 2007 01:28 PM | Link to this

Goldie, I have to disagree.

I hate those cameras. Got caught with a ticket last year, I was caught running a red light, by 0.42 seconds. $70. Also, the yellow lights do nothave standardized timing to them. I got used to the timing in florida, and in cobb county the timing is quicker.

By getalife

February 1, 2007 01:29 PM | Link to this

You have just been punked Boston

Bwhahahahahaha!

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century!

February 1, 2007 01:29 PM | Link to this

Hey I figured out why we have Global Warming. It’s caused by all the hot air that Buy Danish and RW are putting out.

Great Dane Itch (the flea bitten barking hound). Most likely the 500 tons of yellowcake are still there in Iraq. Not that it matters other than a contaminating material. You still cannot make a bomb with it.

France supplied the yellowcake to Iraq for the Iraqi’s (Russian style) low level kilowatt PWR Reactors.

This is what was found in Iraq:

[Of the uranium, 500 tons is naturally occurring ore or yellowcake, a slightly processed concentrate that cannot be directly used in a bomb. Some 1.8 tons is classified as low-enriched uranium, a more potent form but still not sufficient for a weapon.]

RW: Your article posted from the neocon rag had a correction at the bottom that completly debunked the falacy you posted here. Iraq was not negotiating with Niger for 500 tons of yellowcake, Iran was.

Wilson was sent to investigate A rumoured Iraq negotiation for yellowcake. This was an entirely different event altogether, but the neocon rags have somehow lumped them together. Go figure!

But in the end it comes down to the basic facts that Iraq was not negotiating for yellowcake, especially because they really didn’t need anymore of it. And even if they did buy Yellowcake from Niger, what could they do with it? Absolutly Nothing! It’s not even reasonable to use yellowcake for a low grade dirty bomb.

By Nomad

February 1, 2007 01:33 PM | Link to this

I am going to agree with Goldie on the traffic light bill. I say leave them.

NOMAD

By Paul

February 1, 2007 01:41 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Thanks for the recommendations. I’ll try the pairing. Actually, to me boeuf bourguignon is pretty routine - and it’s great on a cold evening.

If you use much saffron you may want to check www.saffron.com - I know opinions abound about types of saffron, whole vs powdered - but these folks carry powdered that is indistinguishable from whole. Please - anyone checking the link - I know it comes from Iran. Let’s not go there, okay? I also enjoy French wine - although some Californias are fine, too.

If you use it - first couple recipes I was generous in measuring - it’s very potent, so go conservative (no, there was not a nefarious double meaning there).

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 01:42 PM | Link to this

Midori— Thanks for the link at 1:11! To quote a line: “In Peoria this week, many patrons found their pancakes more interesting.” I’m really surprised they weren’t barfing in Peoria.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 01:44 PM | Link to this

Wow - I just heard O’Reilly on his radio show say to his audience - if you’re gay and you’re being harassed, particularly if you’re young, come to me and I’ll help you right that wrong. No one should have to go through that in America.”

What a great thing for a… what’s he called here? Never heard anything like that from a personality on Air America or MSNBC.

By IN THE NEWS

February 1, 2007 01:45 PM | Link to this

Lavender and tea tree oils found in some shampoos, soaps and lotions can temporarily leave boys with enlarged breasts in rare cases, apparently by disrupting their hormonal balance, a preliminary study suggests.

Comments Paul?

By RE

February 1, 2007 01:50 PM | Link to this

Suspects of the Boston Bomb hoax

Now did you see the clips of the “bombs”? I think there was way too much of an overreaction on this, and in the end it is going to help the cartoon network. They got more publicity out of the overreaction than they ever would from the signs.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 01:50 PM | Link to this

RE

A little over a year ago Motor Trend & Car and Driver (I read a bit - I believe those were the two) did quite a series on those cameras. Seems at intersections with cameras the “yellow” was of significantly shorter duration that at non-camera intersections. Plus, many jurisdictions have contracts that prohibit them from resetting the timing once the contractor sets the initial timing. Oh, and the contractor gets a cut of the money.

Money and power. It still gets back to money and power.

By Shawny

February 1, 2007 01:51 PM | Link to this

Regarding today’s (original) topic, the Clinton funny…I have a good idea for a toon…

Show Hillary wearing a toboggan holding a police nightstick, reflective sunglasses, saying (in her best Cartman voice) to Billy Boy, “Respect my a-thar-a-tah!”

By Paul

February 1, 2007 01:53 PM | Link to this

In the news

Was that from personal experience?

By IN THE NEWS

February 1, 2007 01:58 PM | Link to this

NOPE< PAID GOOD MONEY FOR THE ONES I KEEP HANDY.

AND YOURS?

By Paul

February 1, 2007 02:05 PM | Link to this

In The News

Kinda like William Shatner’s Candice Bergen doll on Boston Legal? :)

By IN THE NEWS

February 1, 2007 02:08 PM | Link to this

A analysis released today by the Congressional Budget Office shows that the administration, in its public comments, has vastly underestimated the actual number of extra troops that will be deployed to Iraq under the president’s “surge” plan.

The administration’s estimate of approximately 21,000 extra troops only counts combat units, according to the analysis, and because combat units require support forces, the actual number of additional troops who will be in Iraq will likely exceed 35,000.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 02:09 PM | Link to this

In the news

Dang this five minute delay. Good to see someone else with a sense of humor here.

By IN THE NEWS

February 1, 2007 02:13 PM | Link to this

HECK, THEY HAVEN’T FOUND A WAY TO TAX THAT YET>

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century!

February 1, 2007 02:15 PM | Link to this

RE & Getalife:

What’s even more scary than those two getting arrested for placing promotionals all over the place (no worse than neon billboards), is the lack of ability of our nations security forces identifying and discounting a non-threat, versus concentrating on any real threats.

If after the first one, they couldn’t identify this item as a non-threat, then they have absolutly no credibility as security and should be removed from those positions. But apparently someone in Boston wanted to make an issue out of a non-issue to get their face on the news.

IMHO the security forces wasted the taxpayers time and money on this garbage. In the meantime some Saul-Mohabi is probably building his next WMD in his basement while they all run around Boston playing the Keystone Kops.

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 02:18 PM | Link to this

{{Never heard anything like that from a personality on Air America or MSNBC.}}

It’s because you very obviously don’t listen to Air America or watch MSNBC, Uber-Paul.

By Midori

February 1, 2007 02:21 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

did you see where some unthinking soul let that nut loose behind the wheel of a tractor?

Update: Another media account indicates that key White House adviser Karl Rove asked if the president could drive the tractor, warning that the president doesn’t drive often. More details are below.

The White House announced its visit to a Caterpillar factory in East Peoria, Illinois, yesterday, where President George W. Bush advanced his case for expanding free trade negotiations. But it didn’t detail the President’s clumsy driving of a giant D-10 tractor that sent the White House press corps and presidential staff scrambling, as reported at a Newsweek blog.

Bailey looked less fondly upon Bush’s test drive of the D-10. “Yeah, almost as much fun as seeing your life flash before your eyes,” she wrote in response to the president’s remark about his “cool experience.”

Update: A Copley News Service report in the Register-Mail, a paper in Galesburg, IL, indicates that White House adviser Karl Rove asked Caterpillar executives to give the president a photo opportunity in the tractor. “Rove chatted briefly with Caterpillar executives about whether Bush would drive one of the tractors,” writes Copley’s Molly Parker. “Rove reminded them Bush doesn’t do much driving on his own these days and asked if Caterpillar’s insurance was up to date,” she added.

By Rush Limbaugh

February 1, 2007 02:25 PM | Link to this

Has anybody ever heard of Rachel Maddow?

By Dusty

February 1, 2007 02:26 PM | Link to this

RW,

I think Tipper nominated Gore for the Nobel Peace Prize. She wanted the poor guy to WIN something. Maybe a Pulitzer next!! That seems to be an easy one.

Paul,

Stop Stop! You are making me hungry and I have just been to LaCafe BurgerKing. If President Bush had stopped by I would have been delighted to shake his hand. He is an ethical man not always appreciated by those he tries to protect.

Luckovich,

You keep geting lower and lower. Now a former president with his pants down. And the political point of that is what? Liberal leaders are losers?

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century!

February 1, 2007 02:35 PM | Link to this

0Wn3D!

Old news though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MInHphR4zBg&NR

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 02:35 PM | Link to this

A nice AJC article about 2 classy American women— one is Oprah (of course) and the other is Atlanta’s own Sara Blakely:

Spanx founder stuns Oprah with $1M donation

By Paul

February 1, 2007 02:38 PM | Link to this

Goldie

I did early on - Air America I found strident, MSNBC (particularly Olbermann) repetitively boring. Just my opinion. While I don’t often ask others to do my research - if you have any examples I’d love to hear of it. It’s be refreshing to hear of someone who, rather than continually attacking and demeaning, says to a person getting hassled because they’re gay (and not couched in terms of “evangelical bigots attacked a teenager”) say, on the air, “call me. I can help.”

Oprah doesn’t count.

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 02:38 PM | Link to this

{{And the political point of that is what? Liberal leaders are losers?}}

Once again, Dusty-brain shows that she can’t EVER laugh at anything.

By Dusty

February 1, 2007 02:48 PM | Link to this

Oh my goodness,

Call the UN and all our allies!!President Bush drove a tractor and he was NOT VERY GOOD at it. Which all proves that he is after OIL and keeping armament from the troops!! Unfortunately the President did not “plow under” the liberal press corp who breathlessly reported this story with every tractor tire in their handbag!!

This after his seemingly innocent stop at the PanCake House in Peoria which we all know is an undercover center for the CIA and WHO KNOWS what else. HA! He didn’t fool those reporters for one minute. Another Liberal alert!!

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 02:48 PM | Link to this

RE— sorry about that bad ticket you got! My point was about how our Repug legislators want to spend their time discussing and legislating in GA — never mind those pesky problems such as being on the bottom of the education totem pole in America, or healthcare costs, or fill-in-the-blank-here___ (too numerous to list). Yesterday they were proposing funding a statue of Zig-Zag Zell at the state capitol, for example…

By Dusty

February 1, 2007 02:52 PM | Link to this

Wrong again, GOLDIE

I laugh at you Monday through Friday.

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 02:53 PM | Link to this

Let’s see, I believe it was last week’s polls that show that about 78% of America would be considered “uber-left” these days regarding how they feel about their guy in the White House. Wasn’t it 78% that wish Dubya’s term was OVER? Or maybe it was 77%… pardone moi!

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 02:56 PM | Link to this

{{While I don’t often ask others to do my research - if you have any examples I’d love to hear of it.}}

Nope, Paul— as someone who listens and watches MSNBC frequently, you’re just gonna have to trust me on this. I’ve used up my allotment today for doing your research for you. :>)

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 02:58 PM | Link to this

Bush can’t drive a tractor? Man, is there anything he CAN do? I mean, can do well, of course. Can’s manage a baseball team. Can find oil in Texas. Can’t run a country. Can’t eat a pretzel. Can’t drive a tractor. About the only thing he can do well is lie.

By Goldie

February 1, 2007 03:00 PM | Link to this

And speaking of FUNNY:

Putting Edwards on what he calls “The Seat of Heat,” Stewart demanded the former Democratic runningmate answer the question: “If you had been fortunate enough to be elected vice president in 2004, who would you have accidentally shot in the face?” “Um, Dick Cheney,” said Edwards, drawing loud applause from Stewart’s largely liberal audience.

Cheers, y’all!

By DebbieDoRight

February 1, 2007 03:04 PM | Link to this

{{Wow - I just heard O’Reilly on his radio show say to his audience - if you’re gay and you’re being harassed, particularly if you’re young, come to me and I’ll help you right that wrong. No one should have to go through that in America.”}}

Cool. I’m going to call all my gay friends and have them to email O’Reilly, (call, write and if possible show up at the studio) and let him know of all the wrongs that were done to them because they’re Gay Americans.

Or is O’Reilly just trying to hustle a date? I think I recall something about him and sexual harrasment………

By Midori

February 1, 2007 03:04 PM | Link to this

{{{About the only thing he can do well is lie.}}}}}

and he sucks at that, too.

By Craig

February 1, 2007 03:04 PM | Link to this

The office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is pressing the Bush administration for routine access to military aircraft for domestic flights, such as trips back to her San Francisco district, according to sources familiar with the discussions.

The sources, who include those in Congress and in the administration, said the Democrat is seeking regular military flights not only for herself and her staff, but also for relatives and for other members of the California delegation. A knowledgeable source called the request “carte blanche for an aircraft any time.”

Why stop there with just the families of California Congresspeople? Let’s have the military turned into a shuttle service for Democrats everywhere.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 03:12 PM | Link to this

Goldie 2:56

I wasn’t looking for a “source” “so and so on this episode on this date said..” Anything from your memory would be fine. “I recall hearing Commentator N say to the audience - if you’re the victim of a hate crime, if you’ve been shouted down at a university gathering because your views weren’t politically correct, if you’ve been harassed because you’re disabled or overweight, call me. The resources of our show are behind you. We’ll right the injustice.”

I won’t even make it tough by saying, since O’Reilly was offering to assist gays, MSNBC or Air America should offer to assist evangelicals… that was just too good to let pass -

By Dusty

February 1, 2007 03:17 PM | Link to this

Uber duber do-left,

Down at Democratic Headquarters they took a poll and got 100% vote that President Bush was NOT a good president in any way. Who’d a thought it?

This overwhelming surprise at Demo Headquarters led to great joy and gift packages were distributed.

After these lovely blue gift boxes were placed in Boston and the Firemen and Homeland Security were dismissed, the celebration continued.

Well, it did until Gore came and told them their hot air had just melted the North Pole. But all was forgiven when Dems offered to donate five hundred thousand to cover Boston’s expenses for the “gifts”. Oh, and sponsor Gore’s Nobel run. It is amazing what liberal polls can do. Learn the latest at al-Jazeera.

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 03:18 PM | Link to this

O’Reilly assisting gays? Uhhh, you mean the O’Reilly who at one point told a gay guest “Why don’t you shut up about your sex life!”, or who at another point talked that his rights as a hypothtical parent are being infringed upon by gay pride parades? That O’Reilly?

By The Watcher

February 1, 2007 03:22 PM | Link to this

Craig’s source The Moonie Times….

By Shawny

February 1, 2007 03:23 PM | Link to this

Paul,

When Air America was being broadcast afternoons on WABE AM, I listened in periodically. Sort of an attempt to try to understand differing points of view. I also listened to Hannity in the afternoons. Found both to be boring, because they are so predictable and spout the same things over and over. If someone calls in on Hannity, or he has a lib guest on, before Hannity responds, I already know what he is going to say. Same thing with Randi Rhodes or Mike Milloy on AA.

They both are so polarized as to be really a waste of time.

I did find that Randi Rhodes to be a very vile and hateful woman, though. If the rest of the AA programming was as venomous, it is no wonder they are going bankrupt.

By RE

February 1, 2007 03:23 PM | Link to this

I had a discussion about this the other night with family, thought some folks out there might be interested. The idea is the power of corporations, I made the statement that some of the bigger companies like exxon probably make profits in excess of a lot of nations GDP. Exxon would rank just behind North Korea in terms of production.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century!

February 1, 2007 03:25 PM | Link to this

Bush can’t drive (or steer)

I bet Jimmy Carter could drive that Tractor!

(and steer)

By Paul

February 1, 2007 03:28 PM | Link to this

rushncap

Same one. If I understand his position correctly, one’s sex life or orientation shouldn’t be broadcast for all to hear. Most of the time it’s irrelevant and obnoxious.

But you’re doing better than DebbieDoRight, talking about his past indiscrations (took that right from the Bill Clinton/Republican playbook) as having any relevance to the question - any other commentators ever made a similar offer?

Not that O’Reilly’s “better than” other commentators - or that his views have more justification because of this act - more the issue of a commentator using his bully pulpit to assist people rather than whining.

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 03:36 PM | Link to this

RE,

Which just proves that the Communist State of N. Korea is hell on Earth?

Thanks for the clarification.

Paul,

I don’t listen to O’Reilly’s radio show, but I would imagine that his point is that gays are not routinely “harassed”, and it is a myth that they are.

Judging from this blog alone, one probably could find far more Christians who are harassed than gays.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 03:36 PM | Link to this

Shawny

Same here. Couple years back I wondered how Hannity could make the “3-ton SUVs as a matter of choice, no restrictions” then launch into a ridiculous comparison witn Arianna Huffington flying on private jets. Friend said “he’s a showman. He plays to his audience. Look at his contract. It’s worth a lot.”

Makes sense to me. Larger issue with Air America is, I think it failed (aside from abysmal management) is that Americans generally don’t want to hear repeatedly about how bad things are. Ever heard Carter’s “malaise” speech? Even if it had good points, Americans were tired of it and in came Reagan.

Craig 3:04

So much for ethics. For years Congress forced DoD to purchase aircraft to haul Congressmen around. At pilots at a couple hundred thousand a year each, mechanics, loadmasters, that’s a chunk of change. They pulled back after repeated bad publicity. But we have a new era in Congress, ‘eh?

By Dusty

February 1, 2007 03:38 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Back to join the chorus, I see. Everything is pretty well hashed over but you gave it the old college try.

So Bush can’t do anything. Maybe he can go back to college and be a freshman lab assistant like you. We will overlook his Master’s degree while you show him how to wash test tubes. OK?

By Craig

February 1, 2007 03:40 PM | Link to this

When someone is too big an idiot to challenge the story I guess attacking the source will work. Right Watcher?

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 03:42 PM | Link to this

First of all I’m not how Bill plans to “help” these people. Second of all the fact that he is offering to help GAY people means he plans to help people who precisely are broadcasting their sex preferences (which is separate from a sex life) for all to hear. So gay people should just shut up about their preferences unless it helps Bill’s sagging ratings, in which case, by all means, shout it out!

By IN THE NEWS

February 1, 2007 03:42 PM | Link to this

FREE THE BOSTON TOON TWO!

By getalife

February 1, 2007 03:44 PM | Link to this

Here is the tractor video

By Craig

February 1, 2007 03:46 PM | Link to this

Paul-I’ve got nothing against military transport for Speaker Pelosi since she’s second in line for the Presidency. It’s outrageous and downright corrupt to want that for family members and even other members of the California delegation. Of course Democrats in power tend to treat the Secret Service and the Military as their own personal slaves anyway so I guess I shouldn’t have expected better.

By Midori

February 1, 2007 03:48 PM | Link to this

John Lennon must be turning in his grave right now

By Midori

February 1, 2007 03:51 PM | Link to this

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Getalife!!!

By Paul

February 1, 2007 03:51 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

O’Reilly’s done a number of features about the difficulty of jr/sr high and college-age gay kids and the difficulties they encounter. His advice is generally to be quiet about their orientation. He’s not saying to hide it - just that it isn’t generally appropriate. Just as it wouldn’t be appropriate to go to a dinner party and hear “Hi there, I’m Steve and this is my wife Suzy. She’s a flaming nympho but I take Viagra when my chlamydia isn’t acting up so I manage to keep up. Wanna see the handcuffs I got her for Christmas?”

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 03:54 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Dusty, I would not trust Shrubby around the lab. I’m responsible for the saftey of the lab, and there’s no way in hell I would let that monkey near dangerous chemicals and expensive equipment. But I would not mind him going back to college. Anything to get that idiot away from the football and from any sort of responsibility.

By LuckoDull

February 1, 2007 03:56 PM | Link to this

By rushncap February 1, 2007 03:18 PM O’Reilly assisting gays? Uhhh, you mean the O’Reilly who at one point told a gay guest “Why don’t you shut up about your sex life!”,

rushncap: You may find some profound importance in letting the rest of the world know how you get off but the we find your sex life to be a joke.

Hahahahaha, with the neighbor’s dog!

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Midori

February 1, 2007 04:01 PM | Link to this

here you go, Craig

By Midori

February 1, 2007 04:02 PM | Link to this

someone let Andy escape from his basement again, I see…..

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 04:05 PM | Link to this

Craig,

Now we know how Pelosi was going to work a 5 day week. The rest of the peons will have to fend for themselves. What I don’t get is why the entire “California delegation” gets to hop a ride?.

By DebbieDoRight

February 1, 2007 04:05 PM | Link to this

{{Not that O’Reilly’s “better than” other commentators - or that his views have more justification because of this act - more the issue of a commentator using his bully pulpit to assist people rather than whining}}

Haven’t you learned by now that talk is cheap? When he actually DOES what he says, then I’ll put him in for saint hood, until then, I’ll razz him whenever I feel like it. It’s good for the skin.

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 04:07 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Paul, entirely inaccurate example there. The problem isn’t gay people going into detail about their sex lives. The problem is that some gay people get harassed for admitting that they like people of the same gender. This is not “details about a sex life” any more than saying “this is my wife” is a detail of someone’s sex life.

By nuff-said

February 1, 2007 04:08 PM | Link to this

Being truthful is a good thing. The truth is good for America and American families.Right-wing Nut jobs need the lie. Once they believe the lie, they will believe anything. Strong people and children embrace the truth. nuff-said

By DebbieDoRight

February 1, 2007 04:09 PM | Link to this

{{O’Reilly’s done a number of features about the difficulty of jr/sr high and college-age gay kids and the difficulties they encounter. His advice is generally to be quiet about their orientation}}

So if they’re out on the town, holding hands, or dancing with each other; if they get harrassed by a a bunch of homophobes, all they have to do is to “keep quiet” about their orientation and all will be well in the world?!? WOW!! I wonder why no other gay person has ever thought of THAT before!!!??!! That O’Reilly must be a freaking GENIUS!!!

By Paul

February 1, 2007 04:09 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull

Homesexuality does not equal bestiality.

Homesexual does not equal pedophile.

Heterosexual does not equal “good.” Or “bad.”

Neither does Democrat. Or Republican. Equal any of the above.

By Craig

February 1, 2007 04:10 PM | Link to this

Thanks Midori and that was relevant to Speaker Pelosi and her plans for the military how exactly? No wonder they call you the parrot around here.

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 04:10 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Re the “tractor” -

Are you the security guard who’s waiting for the government to come along and move your pitiful a* out of the way before you get rolled over?

Paul,

Agreed.

By Dusty

February 1, 2007 04:15 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

if they let you loose around chemicals and expensive equipment, they are not really worried about who is in the lab, ‘specially an undergraduate science lab.

Didn’t know Bush gave much thought to football although he certainly gets a lot of illegal tackles these days. But you freshmen keep telling us how to run the country. That’s always a good laugh.

By LuckoDull

February 1, 2007 04:17 PM | Link to this

By Paul February 1, 2007 04:09 PM LuckoDull Homesexuality does not equal bestiality.

Paul: I was talking about rushncap’s sex life, which he has bragged about on this blog.

Are you saying he’s also a homosexual?

My whole point is that I can do just fine without this information, especially that last little revelation.

And so can all the kids that look up to us as examples.

Know what I mean?

By Craig

February 1, 2007 04:19 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish-I bet she would very much like for it to only cover the California Democratic delegation. Time to hit the streets, see you guys another day.

By Midori

February 1, 2007 04:20 PM | Link to this

Craig,

perhaps this is more relevant?

or this?

or, better yet, this?

By Paul

February 1, 2007 04:21 PM | Link to this

rushncap

It can be difficult to illustrate a point about a few segments when the person hasn’t seen the segment, I’ll agree. Saying “Hi, this is my wife” is appropriate, as you pointed out. The rest, I think, isn’t. Your other example is fine - but that was not the case with the people I listened to on the segments. Some people just have a different view of “privacy.” I’ve a friend, has lived in the City for years, says he gets very tired of attending functions and hearing “Pleased to meet you. I work on Wall Street. I’m gay.” That’s a bit different than hearing “Hi, I’m Mollie, this is my partner Steph.”

DebbieDoRight

You miss the mark entirely. But your “reasoning” and tone sound all too familiar. Who are you, really?

By The Watcher

February 1, 2007 04:23 PM | Link to this

But Craig, hunny, you taught me every thing you knew in that 60 second interlude.

By Midori

February 1, 2007 04:23 PM | Link to this

well craig. there are parrots

and then there are Parrots

By Midori

February 1, 2007 04:24 PM | Link to this

{{{{Time to hit the streets, see you guys another day.}}}}}}

typical drive-by.

bye.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 04:25 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull

I was not aware of that background. No, I’m not saying anything about him. How could I infer anything such as that from what gets discussed here? Even if I could, it’s irrelevant.

There is such a thing as too much information. Yes, I know what you mean.

By Midori

February 1, 2007 04:29 PM | Link to this

Watcher,

too bad Craig, like Elvis, has left the building.

He appears adept at teaching one how to be stooge of a scumbag.

In 2 easy lessons, no less.

By RE

February 1, 2007 04:30 PM | Link to this

Andy as a role model????

Yikes

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 04:30 PM | Link to this

Dusty — I have no idea where you got your “undergraduate lab” idea. Probably the same place you get your other ideas: outhouse. And no, Bush would not be allowed anywhere near a lab. In science what matters is merit, unlike in politics, where someone as dense as him can become the most important politician.

By Dusty

February 1, 2007 04:32 PM | Link to this

Well,

I thought this was a political blog and now it has gone to a sex life discussion and who said what. See ya’ later.

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 04:35 PM | Link to this

Paul — on an individual basis you may be right. But it’s also hard to deny that this openness has allowed gay people to become accepted much more widely than they would otherwise. Just like with the black Civil Rights movement, they had to get in people’s faces at some points. It was not enough to walk around saying “well, obviously they can tell that I’m black, so maybe if I walk by enough times they’ll get used to me.” That was part of it, but not all of it.

By N-GA

February 1, 2007 04:38 PM | Link to this

Paul,

O’Reilly REALLY likes his privacy. Point of fact: The settlement in the sexual harassment case brought against him by a former staff member was not made public. If I were him, I would have wanted the world to know what the settlement was. After all, he denied there was any harassment.

I would submit that if both parties to the lawsuit were asked if the settlement could be made public, only O’Reilly would say no.

By Sailor

February 1, 2007 04:39 PM | Link to this

One of Andi/e’s favorite sex games is to dress up and play Monica Lewinsky with my Mr. Bill.

She finds it quite exciting.

She’s a filthy disgusting chickenhawk, but damn she’s good.

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 04:40 PM | Link to this

Parrot,

Did Craig’s departure blow some fantasy that you could tie him up and keep him prisoner?

Paul,

I think the Dems are missing out on an opportunity. Time to start the Congressional Gay Caucus. They could invite their constituents (like DDR) and fellow straight congressmen to their parties.

When the straights don’t show up they could out them for being “homophobic”, which would really put pressure on the Dems to party with them.

Fun!

By Sailor

February 1, 2007 04:42 PM | Link to this

Speaking of turdlets, Andi/e’s favorite meal is turdlets and mangoo.

By IN THE NEWS

February 1, 2007 04:44 PM | Link to this

LIMBAUGH NOMINATED FOR NOBEL PEACE PRIZE

(YEP, REALLY, SORT OF)

Dear Dr. Mjos: Landmark Legal Foundation herewith submits the name of Rush Limbaugh as an unsolicited nomination for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize. We are offering this nomination for Mr. Limbaugh’s nearly two decades of tireless efforts to promote liberty, equality and opportunity for all mankind, regardless of race, creed, economic stratum or national origin. We fervently believe that these are the only real cornerstones of just and lasting peace throughout the world. Rush Limbaugh is a nationally syndicated radio talk show host in the United States and one of the most popular broadcasters in the world. His daily radio show is heard on more than 600 radio stations in the United States and around the world. For 18 years he has used his show to become the foremost advocate for freedom and democracy in the world today. Everyday he gives voice to the values of democratic governance, individual opportunity and the just, equal application of the rule of law — and it is fitting the Nobel Committee recognize the power of these ideals to build a truly peaceful world for future generations. Thank you for your thoughtful and serious consideration of this nomination. Should you require additional information, please don’t hesitate to contact me. Sincerely,

Mark R. Levin President

HOWEVER….

Nomination to the Nobel Peace Prize is by invitation only. The Nobel Committee sends confidential forms to persons who are competent and qualified to nominate. The names of the nominees and other information about the nominations cannot be revealed until 50 years later.

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 04:46 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

What happened with O’Reilly was “harassment” but what happened with Bill Clinton was “just about sex”?

By getalife

February 1, 2007 04:50 PM | Link to this

BD,

Hell, if I saw that idiot fixing to drive anything I would get out of the building.

Geez.

By Midori

February 1, 2007 04:51 PM | Link to this

Iraq War! Part Deux

watch this simpering fool recycle his lies

By Paul

February 1, 2007 04:56 PM | Link to this

rushncap

Very good points - and an excellent analogy. Acceptance - live and let live - is good. There are still a lot of stereotypes out there.

N-GA

My understanding is that standard boilerplate in many of those settlements is no admission of guilt by either party, and if the party receiving the settlement discusses it the settlement will have to be returned, at times with additional funds added.

As I said, no one is immune. Welcome to the human race.

By DebbieDoRight

February 1, 2007 04:57 PM | Link to this

The Brits Love To Laugh At Bush

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2iz-9N8Mn4

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 04:57 PM | Link to this

Apparently no one has ever bothered to explain to our Muffin the difference between “consensual sex” and “sexual harassment”. Why am I not surprised?

By DebbieDoRight

February 1, 2007 05:00 PM | Link to this

{{I think the Dems are missing out on an opportunity. Time to start the Congressional Gay Caucus. They could invite their constituents (like DDR) and fellow straight congressmen to their parties}}

Don’t hate me because I’m beautiful………hate the game, not the player.

By @@

February 1, 2007 05:00 PM | Link to this

My, my Midori!!! This one’s yours?

(((He left her with a mouthful, and all she got was a lousy t-shirt.)))

Two questions for you…

How “low” can you go? And….

What can “brown” do for you?

UPS? Yours or Bills?

On the Peace Prize nominee Gore…

There really is a strange correlation to be made here.

Thousands march to protest tortilla prices

Socialist “Gorebrador” can give you what you need.

Thanks Al. Way to go with your/their gut.

By N-GA

February 1, 2007 05:01 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

O’Reilly made unwanted sexual advances on someone in his employ. Bill Clinton succumbed to the sexual advances of a thrill-seeking vixen.

The individual who disclosed the O’Reilly harrassment was the victim. The individual who disclosed the Clinton indiscretion wasn’t even involved.

The differences are huge, but I don’t think you could ever see them. It’s not your eyesight at fault, it your intellect.

By LuckoDull

February 1, 2007 05:02 PM | Link to this

By RE February 1, 2007 04:30 PM Andy as a role model???? Yikes

Uh-huh:

Child actress Dakota Fanning is set to shock fans in new movie “Hounddog”, because she has shot child rape scenes and appears semi-naked reports The IMDb. The controversial film written and directed by Deborah Kampmeier and the 12-year-old’s mother and agent are convinced her gritty performance is Oscar-worthy.

Yeah, like you libs are doing a swell job.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 05:07 PM | Link to this

And it finally happens. Someone refers to Miss Lewinsky as a “vixen”. Wow, N-GA, that’s a first :)

By Paul

February 1, 2007 05:08 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Stephanopolous wrote that when he’d seen Monica around the office for a few days - I believe after she’d asked him if he wanted some coffee - he gave his staff orders that they were not to let her anywhere near him. Now there’s a great example of good judgement!

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 05:15 PM | Link to this

NG-A,

How do you know so much about the O’Reilly case. Are you sure she wasn’t a vixen too?

P.S. Ever hear of Paula Jones?

rushncap,

I’m going to ignore your idiotic statement to me about sexual harassment, except to say that it is a legal term and I know the difference.

Now, is this the kind of thing you think is appropriate for children, and damn you’re a homophobe if you don’t agree?

The leather bar float and the guy on the white SUV (horrors!) with a whip, kinda stuck out to me.

The text kind of reads like a children’s story too.

Essay question:

Is it hypocritical to sponsor a gay pride parade and then forbid the photos from being made public?

A Christian organization trying to give the San Diego city council documentation of children being exposed to obscene materials at the 2006 San Diego ‘Gay’ Pride parade were ordered not to show the materials – by a councilman who was in the parade….The censorship happened Sept. 12 when Hartline was blocked from showing images of the parade by Councilman Scott Peters, who along with Councilwoman Toni Atkins helped pass the resolution a few months ago declaring San Diego ‘Gay’ Pride Week.

“Why this councilman decided to disallow photographs of an event that he participated in, and sanctioned, is cause for serious concern,” Priscilla Schreiber, an elected member of the Grossmont Union High school district, who was at the meeting, said.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 05:24 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish -

Yes.

That concludes my essay.

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 05:25 PM | Link to this

This doesn’t sound too consensual. Why I think it may be called sexual harassment.

I know you libs like to pretend this all started with Monica, but facts are stubborn things. Imagine the President of the United States claiming immunity simply because he was President. tsk, tsk..

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 05:26 PM | Link to this

No Muffin, you don’t know the difference between an affair and sexual harassment if you see no difference between the Lewinsky thing and the alleged Bill O’Reilly heavy breathing on the phone. Don’t flatter yourself too much.

I’m not saying the gay pride parade is “appropriate for children”. I’m saying that there are plenty of things not appropriate for children. Some of us are adults, Muffin. If you take your child to a gay pride parade you have no one to blame but your damn self. Believe it or not the entirety of the world does not revolve around 5 year olds.

By getalife

February 1, 2007 05:31 PM | Link to this

“Obama’s an attractive guy, he’s articulate.
I’ve been impressed with him, but he’s got
a long way to go to be president.” — The Little Dictator

The bar is set so low even Andy could be President.

The Senate finally passed the min. wage with 8 billion tax cuts for small businesses.

Next up, the Iraq disaster.

By N-GA

February 1, 2007 05:35 PM | Link to this

About Scooter Libby’s situation: I almost feel sorry for him. It’s like they left him twisting in the wind.

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 05:36 PM | Link to this

Sorry RW. Clinton was not convicted of a damn thing in the Jones case. I don’t know if what she claimed was true or not (neither do you, for that matter), but the facts are, the case was settled and Clinton was not found guilty of anything.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 05:39 PM | Link to this

rushncap

Isn’t it different when it’s a city-sanctioned and supported event that takes place in public? I’ve no idea what was in the photographs, but if what was depicted in an open-to-the-public parade (such publicly-supported events are not generally able to carry age or other restrictions) would otherwise constitute a misdemeanor if it were to occur, say at a public park, should the event been given city sanction in the first place?

By LuckoDull

February 1, 2007 05:40 PM | Link to this

I would love to know what the great redeeming value there is from a gay pride parade.

Does the world now revolve around immature spoiled adults?

Maybe for those who couldn’t care less for our future and for this country, it’s kind of obvious.

Believe it or not the entirety of the world does not revolve around 5 year olds.

Children are just so much trash, how dare they encroach on our party, right, rushncrap?

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By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 05:41 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

When someone purchases a ticket to Disney World on a day when a gay group has decided to call it Gay Day, should Disney World be obligated to tell you about that event so that you get to make the choice of not taking your children to a gay pride parade?

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 05:43 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

He settled with her. Sound familiar?

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 05:46 PM | Link to this

{{{If you take your child to a gay pride parade you have no one to blame but your damn self. Believe it or not the entirety of the world does not revolve around 5 year olds.}}}

rushncap,

If you live in NYC, like I did, and that parade goes right by your house, you have no freaking choice.

You are someone who consistently behaves like a bratty 5 year old, and you just did it again.

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 05:47 PM | Link to this

Paul, since I don’t know what constitutes a misdemeanor in this case, I cannot answer your question. But I don’t have a problem with gay pride parades. It’s not like they’re having sex on stage, and certainly the costumes there are no more outrageous than those at a good Halloween party. But I also don’t see the big problem of telling a city “There are going to be adult scenes at this parade. Please avoid a few blocks’ worth of a single street for a few hours every year if you have small children whom you don’t want to expose to this.” But that’s just me.

By LuckoDull

February 1, 2007 05:50 PM | Link to this

Here’s a lovely little example of where our country’s ride with liberalism is taking us:

At its Saturday night showing, many of Hollywood’s trendy came to watch the film “Zoo,” which tells the story of a group of Seattle men who routinely went to a nearby barn where they engaged erotically with horses, culminating in the death of one of them through severe perforation of his colon. Disgusting? Not for Hollywood.

Thanks, but I’ll walk.

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By @@

February 1, 2007 05:51 PM | Link to this

Rushncap:

(((entirety of the world does not revolve around 5 year olds)))

That’s a cop out (no pun intended).

I have gay friends who are embarrassed by that kind of gay pride show. Pride isn’t in extroverted behavior, it’s in the dignity with which someone leads their life. Many homosexuals resent the display, which in no way, reflects their lifestyle.

I may choose not to take my child to a gay pride parade, but some parents would, and then those children bring the verbal images and share them with their peers. At some point, peers become more influential than parents.

The overall impact then pushes the envelope of what is and isn’t acceptable. Examples are violence and overt sexual images on T.V. and in movies.

Patents’ influence is limited, and we’re rendered helpless in our efforts.

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 05:58 PM | Link to this

(((No Muffin, you don’t know the difference between an affair and sexual harassment if you see no difference between the Lewinsky thing and the alleged Bill O’Reilly heavy breathing on the phone. Don’t flatter yourself too much.}}}

I missed the final sentence in rushncap’s statement.

Don’t flatter myself too much? What’s that supposed to mean? Because I didn’t engage in heavy breathing with either of the Bills?

rushncap,

You are an arrogant little punk and you never fail to prove it.

Tour Halloween parties must be really something if they look like the guy on the SUV (horrors!).

LuckoDull,

Isn’t it amazing how people like rushncap treat you like a pariah for having an SUV to cart your family around it, but think gay parades are just “vunderbar!” (to coin one of rushncap’s favorite words).

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 05:58 PM | Link to this

RW - yes, Disney World should tell you if it’s “Gay Day”. Or “African American Day”. Or “Easter” for that matter. However, unless they’re doing something there that’s inappropriate for kids, it shouldn’t matter.

No RW, “he settled with her” is unfamiliar to me.

Danish — is there a particular reason you lived in Greenwich Village?

By @@

February 1, 2007 06:01 PM | Link to this

Here’s another example of limitless free expression.

Once you let go of the reigns of decency, the horse is out of the barn, and it’s hard to bring him back.

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 06:06 PM | Link to this

@@, that’s your friends’ choice. No one is forcing them to join the parade, are they? There are obviously enough people who want this parade to happen for them to keep happening.

I believe your second paragraph is dealing with how some parents might hypothetically raise their children poorly (in your opinion). Not only is this overly presumptious, it’s also entirely vacuous.

I will ask you one simple question: do you think our society, as a whole, is better than it was say 60 years ago, or worse? If better, then it seems like TV isn’t ruining quite as many lives as you think. If worse — defend your opinion.

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 06:10 PM | Link to this

Muffin — I’m mildly amused that you were able to say something as stupid as “to coin one of rushncap’s favorite words”. This phrase is so incredibly dumb on so many levels, I’m not even sure where to begin.

@@ — the Oregon court is entirely correct. That is protected speech. The sex acts were performed in a private club, with (one would assume) strict age limit policy. If you don’t want to see that, don’t buy admission into that club. It’s that simple.

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 06:10 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

Perhaps it’s a better question for you than for rushncap since he’s basically only cheerleading for you.

O’Reilly was charged with sexual harassment by the person who claimed to be the victim. He settled and you have inferred this shows his guilt.

Clinton was charged with sexual harassment by the person who claimed to be the victim. He settled with her and you give him a pass.

If he deserves a pass why doesn’t O’Reilly? Dozens of women have claimed Clinton harassed them to various degrees, all the way from inappropriate touching to rape. As far as I’ve heard this was the only complaint about O’Reilly.

rushncap,

O’Reilly settled with his accuser, Clinton settled with his. Familiar yet dumbass?

The problem with Disney World is that they refuse to give out that information and unsuspecting parents take their kids on an expensive Florida vacation, go into Disney World and are confronted with all sorts of gay exhibitionism in the name of gay pride. You claim the parents should know better, would you explain exactly how they are supposed to get the information? Most heterosexual couples with children don’t go surfing gay web sites to plan their vacations.

By Paul

February 1, 2007 06:12 PM | Link to this

@@

Oregon. ‘Nuff said.

By LuckoDull

February 1, 2007 06:19 PM | Link to this

This is worth the read:

The indulgence of the public, but more importantly smarter-than-us lefties is another thing I am thankful for every day. I mean you have to realize that without the rapes and murders, soldiering kinda sucks. And how kind of you to smear the military command structure as enablers or even commanders of rape and murder. Why I remember the civilian-slaughtering course at Bragg, and the rape rooms., oh wait that was freakin’ Sadaam. More of a satisfyingly wicked beatdown of a professional punkas-s after the jump. Billy’s email address is warkin.org. tell him I said hey.

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 06:20 PM | Link to this

RW, since you obviously can’t read, I’m not quite sure I need to respond to your posts. If you keep insisting that I said “white” when I said “black”, you’re either stupid, a liar, or both.

By Huge

February 1, 2007 06:26 PM | Link to this

Hi all. Been too busy to post much lately.

As for Hillary Clinton in the White House. Somebody please just shoot me! Hey peeps, there are more than just two families who can be president of the United States! Let’s find someone with a surname other than Clinton or Bush, OK?

The only dem who has impressed me at all so far has been Richardson, but he’s too obscure and out funded to have any chance. Edwards? Don’t know yet, but would have a helluva time voting for any of the others so far.

Not surprisingly at all, the news is even worse on the other side of the aisle! But just like the dems, the four front runners would all be terrible choices. Only Hagel is IMHO a really good prospect so far. See comments about Richardson.

I did hear something very interesting last night though. It’s probably way too early and progressive for this country but some people are proposing a new system to nominate a mixed ticket, such as McCain - Obama. Or maybe Hagel - Richardson! It’s a bit far-fetched, sure, but I kind of like it!

IMHO, both of the political parties have created a corrupt system that presents very big problems for “we the people” now and something BIG needs to be done to shake them all up!

By @@

February 1, 2007 06:29 PM | Link to this

Rushncap:

I think it’s worse for many, better for some. For me, personally, I’ve always known that homosexuality existed. It wasn’t a problem knowing that the nice same sex couple living next door was different than me.

The dignity with which they conducted their lives was what I focused on. It was what made me realize that they could make positive contributions to society as a whole.

It’s that realization that has most Christians saying, “they deserve the same considerations legally. Civil Unions, non-discrimination.”

There are so many single-parent families today, whose jobs restrict their ability to supervise their children. It’s sad to me that, as LuckoDull said, society’s children are subject to the whims of adults selfish behavior.

I expect decent behavior in public from the gay community. I’m willing to deliver on their expectations. Can they deliver on mine?

By @@

February 1, 2007 06:36 PM | Link to this

Rushncap:

Please tell me that you’re not that naive as to ignore the potential damage that can come out of sexual acts in a “private club”.

How many teenagers have asked a 21 year old to purchase alcohol for them? How many 21 year olds have video cellphones to record the on-stage acts?

How many of those recordings end up on the internet for viewing?

How many of the participants on stage were drunk or drugged having no intention of putting on a sex show for the audience?

Keep it in the bedroom for crying out loud.

You don’t have kids, do you?

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 06:39 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

I’m not sure if the 6:20 is just another attempt to show us your delusions, your ignorance, or just what exactly.

The only thing I’ve claimed you said was that parents should know better about taking their children to a gay pride parade.

Here’s what you said:

{{{{Some of us are adults, Muffin. If you take your child to a gay pride parade you have no one to blame but your damn self.}}}}

It’s pretty sad that you can’t even keep up with your own comments on the blog.

By Sailor

February 1, 2007 06:40 PM | Link to this

Andi/e’s the Queen of the Marietta Gay Pride Parade.

By @@

February 1, 2007 06:42 PM | Link to this

A mixed ticket has always been an interesting prospect to me.

Don’t know how it would work though.

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 06:46 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Yes, squirt. I lived in Greenwich Village. Newsflash!!!!

So do many heterosexuals.

By Huge

February 1, 2007 06:52 PM | Link to this

It’s all explained here.

http://unity08.com/

By Bob

February 1, 2007 06:55 PM | Link to this

OK all you Repugs out there, it’s that time of day again. Slip into your gangsta shorts, your Shaq-sized tee, your ball cap. Grab that cellphone and those truck/suv keyes. Spin on down to your nearest sports bar for sports bores, have a few chugs of courage, talk tuff, call it a night and head back to your greasy little beds. Tomorrow’s another day. If you can call time without a life…a “day.”

By rushncap

February 1, 2007 06:55 PM | Link to this

@@ — some people opt for what you call “quiet dignity”. But not all. It’s their choice. Some like to be loud. The world does not revolve around your comfort zone, or mine, for that matter. There are times when my gay acquaintances had gone over the top. In those cases I went away. And didn’t mind too much.

@@ — you think by shutting down a club in Oregon you’ll get rid of internet porn?? LOL, sorry, sometimes you’re just so… oh, I dunno, sweetly naive.

By @@

February 1, 2007 06:55 PM | Link to this

Paul:

I just read your comment re: Sharpton on O’Reilly. I’ve gotta give it to Al. He’s a frequent guest. Most all Democrats refuse the invitations.

Al must have tough souls on the bottom of his barefeet. The guy is quick. I don’t agree with his politics, or his methods, but I’d love to be in a restaurant where he and Bill are dining together.

An inconspicuous observer.

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 06:55 PM | Link to this

@@,

I like the idea of a mixed ticket. Let’s have a conservative like Gingrich atop the ticket and a moderate like Dr. Rice foe VP.

Gingrich/Rice 2008!!

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 07:05 PM | Link to this

rushcnap,

You have used the word “vunderbar” And that’s all there is. No more, no less. No levels at all.

By @@

February 1, 2007 07:07 PM | Link to this

Rushncap:

No, I don’t think shutting down a club (I didn’t suggest that), would eliminate internet porn (something that I think should be eliminated). Prohibiting the sex acts on stage should also be eliminated. Funny, you didn’t address the potential for victimization through overindulgence in alcohol or drugs. The internet is eternal. One mistake today can haunt you for the rest of your life.

I’m saying the playing field needs to be levelled so that parents have a fighting chance.

Public indecency has gone beyond the limits, and for who? Certainly not in the interest of our children, or those that could be exploited for monetary gain.

By Buy Danish

February 1, 2007 07:08 PM | Link to this

{{{@@ — you think by shutting down a club in Oregon you’ll get rid of internet porn?? LOL, sorry, sometimes you’re just so… oh, I dunno, sweetly naive}}}

rushncap knows what of he speaks!

rushncap,

When a kid is in school and some gay rights group wants him to learn about fisting, he can’t just walk away.

By RW-(the original)

February 1, 2007 07:11 PM | Link to this

@@,

Don’t forget that it was rushncap that linked that porn site here at ml’s so he may be an expert in that arena.

By LuckoDull

February 1, 2007 07:12 PM | Link to this

Yes, if only Marietta had a gay pride parade.

Even the gays aren’t stupid enough to march through the middle of Marietta, that wouldn’t go over very well.

Out here away from Atlanta we still have our balls.

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By Swiftvoter

February 2, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

I remember reading something about the men and the horses a__s but that was a Republican Fundraising Event wasn’t it? I heard that in the end the Republicans got what they desparately needed.