Mike Luckovich

By George

January 31, 2007 08:00 AM | Link to this

Great Toon ML! Dubya is so delusional that I’m sure he could go on for a long time. In his mind, everyone is right behind him and everything is going along perfectly. He would never quit as President because he likes hearing the band and the voices in his head telling him how great he is.

By LuckoDull

January 31, 2007 08:04 AM | Link to this

The only “noise” that band has ever played has been the “surrender monkey serenade.”

We’re better off without them.

Listen to the new band:

WASHINGTON — James Baker, the co-chairman of the Iraq Study Group, on Tuesday endorsed President Bush’s troop surge in Iraq, urging the Senate to “give it a chance.”

Huh.

“I volunteered to go to Baghdad because I believed and still believe that it is possible for Iraq to make a successful transition to democracy,” Negroponte, who is currently the U.S. intelligence chief, told the panel.

Now that’s music to my ears.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Shawny

January 31, 2007 08:04 AM | Link to this

Cute, as was Darth Cheney yesterday. Actually got a chuckle out of both. Sad, though, same tired stuff.

Meanwhile, back in the Senate, lawmakers are hard at work, slaving over the issues of the day, like Mikey pointed to in his jab at Sonny, working on education, healthcare, etc. No….they are working on:

http://www.townhall.com/funnies/cartoonist/PaulNowak/2007/01/1

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 31, 2007 08:08 AM | Link to this

This ‘toon would be funny if it were not so sadly true.

Apparently, “we will be showing him the way”.

By Screwy Wabbit

January 31, 2007 08:19 AM | Link to this

Bush should be holding a single horn blowing a single note as well as leading a ghost parade.

The surge will work where there is a surge, and will be ineffective where there’s not a surge, which is 99% of Iraq. You can clear and hold specific neighborhoods, but so what? You’ve won in those city blocks, but no where else. No argument there.

By LMAO

January 31, 2007 08:21 AM | Link to this

What do you know, a Bush cartoon.

Mike are you finally getting the message? Its about time. Why you have let up on Bush is beyond me.

I will buy a paper from the rack today, but I’m not quite ready to take on a full subscription. Its up to you.

Please give me a reason to renew!!!

BTW, todays cartoon is hilarious. LMAO.

By Truthman

January 31, 2007 08:24 AM | Link to this

Ah Shawny and Luckodull/Andy,

It’s so nice to get up early and read Bush’s cheerleaders responses to another great ML ‘toon.

I wonder what it’s like to be honkies filled with so much hate…always have to have a boogieman, that’s the neo-conman way!!

And before you two go all apoplectic, remember, I’m a honky, too!!

Can’t wait for the summer offensive in Afghanistan by the Taliban (remember Afghanistan, Shawny/Andy? where our REAL enemies are located). But, that’s OK to you two. Iraq is much more important because of…what?

You two can go on fighting the War on Error! I choose to support the War on Terror.

Now, fire away (Goo-goo-goo, gaa-gaa)!

The One, The Only - Truthman

P.S. Since I work for the Army, I know plenty of recruiters who would love you to join them. Please post your personal information so I may forward it to a local recruiter…Oh, I’m sorry, you two only TALK a good game!

By AND IN THE NEWS TODAY

January 31, 2007 08:31 AM | Link to this

Senate Multimillionares Vote To Block Minimum Wage Hike After repeated delays by conservatives, the Senate voted 87-10 today to end debate on legislation that will raise the minimum wage for the first time in a decade, from $5.15 to $7.25. The bill will move to a full vote in the next several days.

Ten right-wing senators stuck together and voted to further delay raising the minimum wage:

Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) Sen. John Ensign (R-NV) Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-GA) Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) Sen. David Vitter (R-LA)

As ThinkProgress detailed in a report last year, at least two of those 10 senators — Gregg and Isakson — are multimillionaires with a combined fortune of up to $35.5 million. Despite their enormous personal wealth, they refuse to grant even a small raise to the nearly 8 million Americans who live on $5.15 an hour:

By Peter

January 31, 2007 08:38 AM | Link to this

STAY THE COURSE, MIKE

(You could actually run this for a week straight. Nothing’s going to change in the oval office.)

By Brian Curtis

January 31, 2007 08:40 AM | Link to this

Gosh, and Georgia’s the only state that can proudly claim BOTH its senators are evil and stupid enough to oppose a minimum wage.

I do love this state; the standards are just sooooo low!

By Roy

January 31, 2007 08:41 AM | Link to this

AND IN THE NEWS TODAY - go to another BLOG, we are talking about a stupid band not following their leader.

By @@

January 31, 2007 08:41 AM | Link to this

I see you’re “tooning up” the band ml.

And you’ve got Mrs. Toon wearing golashas, uggs, rubbers, waders because…….?

Everybody knows you “earthly” types prefer flip flops and yellow toe fungus.

By LMAO

January 31, 2007 08:56 AM | Link to this

This would be more realistic if our ex-cheerleader President was dressed in his cheerleader outfit leading cheers in an empty stadium. In his cowboy boots of course.

“Push ‘em back, push ‘em back, Waaaay back….Go, team, go!!!! Fight team fight” Woooooo-hooooooooo.

Perfect. He’s safer on the sidelines than actually playing in the game.

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 08:56 AM | Link to this

This cartoon is appropriate because we are steadily loosing the members of the “coalition of the willing” every day. Britans are demanding England pull out and once they’re gone we’ll be “upholding democracy” (sneer, sneer), all by ourselves. But I guess in Dumbya’s and Cheney’s minds it’ll be worth it if they’re Haliburton stocks go up.

And the band played on……

By AND IN THE NEWS TODAY

January 31, 2007 08:56 AM | Link to this

HEY ROY, MAKE ME.

YOU LIKE SAXBY AND JOHNNY? FIGURES

By AND IN THE NEWS TODAY

January 31, 2007 08:59 AM | Link to this

CHAMBLISS AND ISAKSON ARE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THE LEADER….

TOO CLOSELY….WAIT DON”T STOP TOO FAST…

AN ACCIDENT - OOPS REAR ENDED….

MAY HAVE TO USE A CROWBAR TO SEPARATE THEM….

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 09:01 AM | Link to this

Well, you gotta admit, W’s majorette outfit is definitely more masculine than his college cheerleading outfit…

What a leader…

By Janice

January 31, 2007 09:06 AM | Link to this

Both Georgia senators opposed the raise in mimimum wage. What do you expect? We are a NEW GEORGIA.

By RW-(the original)

January 31, 2007 09:15 AM | Link to this

It is nice to know that a few Senators, including the two from Georgia, have the backbone to stand up for keeping this a free country.

Did the Senate keep Nancy Pelosi’s tuna packers from benefiting from this government intervention into the free market?

I’ll look for all the well reasoned responses this evening.

By Simon

January 31, 2007 09:21 AM | Link to this

Yep, ml’s “surrender monkey serenade” (good one Lucko) chorus will be here singing all day today:

The tone deaf, one note wonders.

truthman must be the majorette (goo goo, gaa gaa?)

By AND IN THE NEWS TODAY

January 31, 2007 09:25 AM | Link to this

AS OF THIS DATE CHAMBLISS AND ISAKSON HAVE NOT SAID IF THEY SUPPORT THE SURGE OR NOT…..

SPINE? WHAT SPINE?

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 09:27 AM | Link to this

Meddling on climate research

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2576203,00.html

US ‘wasted millions’ in Iraq aid

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US accuses allies of “dragging their feet” over Iran

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2575797,00.html

And the band played on…..

By AND IN THE NEWS TODAY

January 31, 2007 09:32 AM | Link to this

On the January 12 edition of CNN’s Lou Dobbs Tonight, CNN correspondent Lisa Sylvester reported that “Del Monte has not contributed to Pelosi’s campaign and, in fact, has given more to Republicans.”

On the January 12 edition of CNN’s The Situation Room, CNN correspondent Brian Todd reported: “A Pelosi aide denies she’s been lobbied by Del Monte. Company officials say the same. Records show Del Monte’s employees contributed very little to Democrats over the past two years. A Pelosi aide even says she had nothing to do with this part of the legislation.”

In the January 12 edition of washingtonpost.com’s Post Politics Hour online discussion, Weisman noted that “Del Monte executives have given to Republicans almost exclusively and have given nothing to Pelosi or the major Democratic committees.”

DEBUNKING RW IS CHILDSPLAY

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 09:39 AM | Link to this

Maybe this was Pelosi’s way of thanking Del Monte for their almost exclusive support of Republicans??

Or

Maybe RW-(the obfuscator) is retarded…

Which is more likely?

By Truthman

January 31, 2007 09:40 AM | Link to this

Simon,

Thanks for reading and commenting. I always have the most salient posts!!

As London Tipton would say, “Yea, me!”

Oooo, I can’t wait for the next round of name-calling!!

By Brian Curtis

January 31, 2007 09:45 AM | Link to this

I was not aware that making economic oppression easier was the key to having a “free country.”

Isakson and Chambliss need to go for many reasons other than this, but maybe this will finally tip the balance.

By @@

January 31, 2007 09:55 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight:

The U.K. does have it’s “wienies”, like you. They call them “bangers”. Here in the U.S. we call them “bashers” or “bratwursts”.

They also have MoD’s “knockwursts” that have a different view of their committment to the coalition.

A spokeswoman for the Ministry of Defence said last night there was “no tension between US and UK objectives and activities in Iraq”. She added: “We are a major member of the coalition, with senior officers serving in it at every level; our plans are consistent with the coalition’s long term strategy.”

Roasted “wienies”. Who doesn’t love ‘em?

I’m reading in “the tubes” now. I’ll be returning with the buns.

By N-GA

January 31, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Gold is trading at more than $650 today. The increase in the value of gold over the past 4 years is not because gold is more valuable. It is a direct result of the worldwide weakness of the dollar. And this happened on whose watch?

Oh, it must be Clinton’s fault!!! LMAO

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

@@ I have no idea what the heck you’re saying. Sorry. Enjoyed your link though! Although the source is “suspect”. Sorry again.

By @@

January 31, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Oops! Here’s a word from a man on the streets in the U.K. DebbieDoRight.

For sale in an Islamic Bookstore in the U.K.

Footage of the 9/11 attacks is shown, with a poem that says: “Suddenly their storms arise to demolish their fortresses and proclaim to them we shall not stop our raids until you abandon our lands.” Al-Qaeda leaders are shown in the DVD speaking from a cave, while pictures of Jews praying are subtitled: ‘Brothers of pigs and monkeys.’

A sequence of “recent war footage from Iraq” shows vehicles and aircraft being bombed, some with dead bodies. It ends with a gleeful Iraqi rebel declaring: “We love death just as they love life”.

Today, an employee of Sparkhill Freight and Travel, which is opposite the bookstore, said police had cut through the shop’s closed shutter to enter the building. He said: (((“This is shocking. You don’t know your neighbour now,))) but we’ve never had any problems with them.”

Leave it to “the wieners” Mr. Freight and Travel, and you’ll be forced to enjoy those problems.

Relish?

By N-GA

January 31, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

RW,

Because of the laissez faire attitude of previous administrations, we had the Savings & Loan debacle which cost American taxpayers billions of dollars while many SOB’s got filthy rich. That is just a single example of: Letting business govern itself.

We would have thousands of drugs that either did nothing, or harmed people. We would have toys that killed or injured children.

My point is that many “businessmen” are inherently dishonest. They will try to enrich themselves regardless of the impact on the consumer. Then you kind of admire those types, don’t you?

By RW-(the original)

January 31, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Well so far we just have the predictable responses. Republicans were not allowed any input into the bill that exempted American Samoa so it’s Pelosi’s exemption. Doesn’t Paul Pelosi control millions of dollars of Del Monte stock?

Now I’m gone until happy hour. Try harder this time.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

RW (the original), AiTNT, LHU

There’s something called “passing the common sense test” and this just doesn’t when focusing solely on lack campaign contributions as dismissing any impropriety. The purpose of the exemption was to financially benefit the business. Who benefits then? Shareholders. Specifically, major shareholders. Mr. Paul Pelosi (Speaker Pelosi’s husband) (full disclosure, that’s not me) owns about $17 million in Del Monte stock (Del Monte is Starkist’s parent company). Higher profitabililty, driven in part by low wages (keeping wages forced down to $3.62 an hour) leads to greater profits, then to higher dividends and/or stock prices.

Any other beneficiaries? Well, about 75 percent of Del Monte stock is held by shareholders of the H.J. Heinz Company. Recognize the name? As in “Theresa Heinz Kerry?”

Earmarks like this don’t just get inserted by magic. This one came from - Speaker Pelosi. Someone, please convince me if Del Monte/Starkist were headquarted in, say, a conservative Republican’s district that Speaker Pelosi would have pushed through this legislation?

So it isn’t just about “campaign contributions.” It’s alway good to ask “who benefits from this legislation?” Or, in other words, “follow the money.”

All in all, the exemption to depress wages is worth a heckuva lot more in dividends and stock appreciation to major shareholders that a measly couple thousand in campaign contributions.

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

@@: This is what I got of the article you referenced. Below is the first paragraph:

Signs of tension between the US and Britain over London’s plans to withdraw some of the 7,000 UK troops in southern Iraq from this spring emerged yesterday. Speaking on the day that the foreign secretary, Margaret Beckett, said she remained confident that British troops would start to be withdrawn from Basra in the spring, the US ambassador in Baghdad, Zalmay Khalilzad, said he wanted Britain to keep its troops at its current level.

So if Britain’s want to withdraw troops in the South, why again should we, America, escalate troops? Will we not be fighting a war by ourselves?

By Zman

January 31, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

By LMAO

January 31, 2007 08:56 AM | Link to this

This would be more realistic if our ex-cheerleader President was dressed in his cheerleader outfit leading cheers in an empty stadium. In his cowboy boots of course.

“Push ‘em back, push ‘em back, Waaaay back….Go, team, go!!!! Fight team fight” Woooooo-hooooooooo.

Perfect. He’s safer on the sidelines than actually playing in the game.

Not when Dick Cheney is the Head Coach. As long as there is no Cheney in harms way, they will continue to throw hail marys.

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Yes @@, keep believing that bumper sticker BS like the ‘Coalition of the Willing’ are anything more than lipstick on a pig.

Sorry to deflate your delusions, but here are some facts…

In late 2003, the Department of Defense plan was to reduce the number of American troops in Iraq to 105,000 by May 2004. However, as of November 2006, there were approximately 140,000 troops there. We no longer know what the breakdown is between active and reserve forces (including National Guard). The last time those data were available, there were 90,000 active forces and 60,000 reserve. In November 2006, coalition troop numbers were down from a high of 25,600 (January 2004) to 18,000. Thus 89 percent of the troops are American.

The non-US components of the ‘Coalition’ have decreased 30% and none of these countries are contributing to ‘surge.’

Do you have any informative insight as to why this is happening?

By Dusty

January 31, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

I understand perfectly what @@ is saying. That is: The British are still with us.

But I was wondering about what you said. You have told us your husband is in the military. Does he like your words “upholding democracy ( sneer sneer)” in reference to Iraq? Clearly you are sneering at those fighting in Iraq which are mostly our military.

Don’t bother to tell me about free speech. You can say what you want to say. But I wouldn’t call that support of our troops.

By Dusty

January 31, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

I understand perfectly what @@ is saying. That is: The British are still with us.

But I was wondering about what you said. You have told us your husband is in the military. Does he like your words “upholding democracy ( sneer sneer)” in reference to Iraq? Clearly you are sneering at those fighting in Iraq which are mostly our military.

Don’t bother to tell me about free speech. You can say what you want to say. But I wouldn’t call that support of our troops.

By @@

January 31, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

I love T-Bones, don’t you Debbie? To the real meat of the coalition.

Howard, a shrewd politician…

Despite all Rudd’s early promise as an alternative prime minister of substance, Howard’s water initiative is a promise of things to come across other portfolios in this election year, and a reminder of just how hard he will be to beat.

The “wienie” party…

“Australian Labor wants to retreat to fortress Australia,” he said.

A Wise potato chip…

“Its natural instinct has always been isolationism, and its cut-and-run policy in Iraq is the latest incarnation of that tendency. It is madness to think we can retreat from this crucial battle for civilisation and hope the terrorists will leave us alone.”

It’s a virtual picnic out there.

You’re welcome Debbie. I’m always happy to help.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

N-GA

More good topics this morning. Alas, I fear there will be few takers for intelligent discussion.

The weakness of the dollar can also be traced, in part, to actions by China and Russia. These actions by foreign governments would have occurred regardless of whether or not the Administration was Democratic or Republican. Sure, actions by the Administration have contributed - but it’s not the sole reason. There are countries out there whose interestes don’t coincide with ours.

Sorry for the long copy, but I can’t link to the source (email I receive from StratFor) and you may appreciate the implications:

From Beijing’s standpoint, there are three situations that could come together this year to herald a crisis on the Taiwan front.

First, the leadership in Beijing is extremely concerned that the shift from Republican to Democratic control in the U.S. Congress could spell the beginning of the end of the current round of rapprochement in Sino-U.S. relations. Though Beijing views the Republicans as being hawkish on the military front (and as the key voices in the “China threat” line of argument in the United States), it also sees this movement as having been subsumed by the Republican White House, which has advocated a more balanced and consultative approach to Chinese relations.

There are no such expectations of the Democratic Congress.

China now anticipates a move to push economic and financial actions against China through Congress. It is the Democratic Party that is seen as the most motivated to attack the established economic and business relationships between the two powers. With the Democrats in charge of the legislature and the popularity of the Bush administration fading, Beijing sees little that would stop Congress from becoming more aggressive in its moves to punish or contain China.

A related concern, tied to the extended U.S. war in Iraq, then begins to emerge. Again, peering through the Chinese lens, the war is unpopular among Americans, and the Democrats — positioning themselves for presidential elections next year — will seek to reduce the U.S. presence in Iraq. However, they cannot afford to look dovish. To demonstrate that the party is strong on U.S. national security, and to gain support from the Pentagon, the Democrats could shift attention to issues like North Korea and China. China’s military restructuring and its

By Paul

January 31, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

RE - again, sorry for the length. For the rest of you, I will try so set up a different link methodology or simply summarize in the future.

A related concern, tied to the extended U.S. war in Iraq, then begins to emerge. Again, peering through the Chinese lens, the war is unpopular among Americans, and the Democrats — positioning themselves for presidential elections next year — will seek to reduce the U.S. presence in Iraq. However, they cannot afford to look dovish. To demonstrate that the party is strong on U.S. national security, and to gain support from the Pentagon, the Democrats could shift attention to issues like North Korea and China. China’s military restructuring and its recent space experiments are perfect fodder for Democratic presidential hopefuls seeking to point out the failures of a presidency that, it will be argued, has gotten the United States tied down in an interminable war in Iraq and missed the “real” threats on the horizon, such as China.

That concern by itself would be manageable for Beijing. After all, the regime has balanced competing pressures from the United States before. The political shift and cycles in Washington could complicate matters at the CPC Congress and the NPC session next year (where a new vice president is likely to be named), but this does not constitute a crisis. However, if Taiwan generates significant pressure this year as well, the U.S. Congress could compound that pressure by giving tacit or overt support to the island’s moves toward independence.

By AND IN THE NEWS TODAY

January 31, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

Media allowed to stand suggestion that Pelosi support for minimum wage bill stems from company in her district In the days following House passage of a Democratic minimum wage increase, media outlets have continued to report Republican accusations that the bill, the Fair Minimum Wage Act, caters to a company in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) district because it does not include a wage hike for American Samoa. These stories point out that Del Monte Corp., which is headquartered in Pelosi’s district, owns one of American Samoa’s largest employers, StarKist. But in reporting the accusation, many in the media have allowed to stand the suggestion that Pelosi’s support of this bill stems from Del Monte’s interest. In fact, Pelosi has supported several versions of the Fair Minimum Wage Act since it was introduced by Democrats in 1999, three years before Del Monte bought StarKist, and each has included a wage hike for the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands but not for American Samoa.

Pelosi was a co-sponsor of the Fair Minimum Wage Act of 1999 and co-sponsored subsequent versions of the bill, introduced in 2001, 2003 and 2005. Versions of the Fair Minimum Wage Act were also introduced in 2002 and 2004, but Pelosi was not a co-sponsor of these bills. The Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007 passed the House 315-116 on January 10.

Republican House members also introduced minimum wage proposals in 2005 and 2006 that included a wage hike for the Northern Mariana Islands but not for American Samoa.

The most recent examples of media reports on this issue were in the January 23 edition of The Washington Times and on the January 23 edition of Fox News’ Fox & Friends. The Washington Times reported that Republicans were calling the American Samoa exemption a “fishy favor”:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters less than two weeks ago that she would close the loophole after coming under criticism from Republicans for what they termed a “fishy favor” to StarKist Tuna. StarKist has lobbied for years against raising the minimum wage in American Samoa, and its parent, Del Monte Corp., is based in Mrs. Pelosi’s San Francisco district.

Fox & Friends also ran a story on the issue, during which on-screen text read “Fishy Favors.”

From the January 23 edition Fox News’ Fox & Friends:

STEVE DOOCY (co-host): She [Pel

By LuckoDull

January 31, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

Apologize for this, libby:

SEN. BIDEN SHOCK INTERVIEW: OBAMA ‘CLEAN’ BLACK… ‘I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy’…

WTF?

By N-GA

January 31, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Would love to continue this dialog, but I must come down from the mountains to visit Atlanta.

I come from a family of military careerists. In 1969 while in basic training, I was trying to understand what in the world had landed the USA in the predicament of Viet Nam…and what kept us there. Because of my upbringing I believed that I must do this for my country, right or wrong.

Over the next 18 months a lot happened. My Lai had occurred the previous year, but was not reported until much later. In 1971 the Pentagon Papers were published. I decided then to register as an independent. I believed (then and now) that government did not do a good job of representing the people.

We can discuss world economics all day long, but the US government must do something that ensures our country’s long term prosperity. Instead it tends to try to satisfy big business with the excuse that what is good for big business is good for America. (Just another reason that platitudes suck).

The PRC has taken a long term view of their place in the world and, as a result, will likely displace the USA as the world’s major economic power in my lifetime (25 more years, or so).

We can continue to ignore the PRC, continue to let Social Security and Medicare go underfunded, continue deficit spending until no country will loan us any more money…but I’m sure you understand the consequences.

I’ll try to check back in before the blog closes.

By Zman

January 31, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

By Paul

January 31, 2007 10:21 AM

There are countries out there whose interestes don’t coincide with ours.

Well, I’ll be damned! The light is on with someone here. The days when we could impose our will on others and dictate what their interests should be are LONG gone. Latin America..GONE. Asia..GONE. China can and is more then willing to step in and support everyone on this earth that wants to break their dependence on us. It has been coming for YEARS people. It is now too damned late. China was always the biggest threat and we just ignored them, choosing instead to get sidetracked by so called issues like the “global war on terror.” The only global threat to our existence powerful enough to get the job done is China. It is too late now. The emergence of China is the reason guys like Hugo Chavez will become monsters. If we threaten, China will step in and neutrlize any leverage that we think we still have. And now they can shoot down satellites. We blew it folks. China was tough so we chose the weak sisters to make a show with. That is coming back to bite us badly.

By @@

January 31, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Debbie:

Well of course you hungry for the first paragraph, but subsequent paragraphs followed. You didn’t like them? They were the dessert.

Consume the words “present view”, “If”, “November”, “Spring” “other provinces” and “Basra”. It’s a schmorgasborg, and some of it looks tasty to the U.K.

“It is our present view, and the view of the Iraqi government, that if things continue as they are, we may well be in a position to hand over responsibility … for all the provinces by November and certainly for Basra in the spring,” Beckett told parliament.

Paul:

Thanks for the post regarding China. My understanding of economics is lacking, but I know how to put a fork in a wienie.

I was disappointed to find out Stratfor’s subscription price has doubled. Yikes…it’s worth every penny though.

Have to get ready for work now.

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

Lucko-Curl,

Scooter is too worried about his future cellmate/boyfriend to apologize to you at the moment…

By Midori

January 31, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

I envy you living in the Mountains.

I went to Brasstown last fall, and completely fell in love with the place.

That whole area is just simply beautiful. Gorgeous.

By Blackadder

January 31, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

Great ‘toon Mike!

The coalition of “the willing” has been replaced by the coalition of “what the hell were we thinking”.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

N-GA

I largly agree. The fact this has continued through Democratic and Republican administrations leads to a certain sense of, what, cynicism? Hopelessness? But Angelina’s kids, Libby’s lies and who’s who on American Idol are much more important issues, aren’t they?

@@

I find StratFor on an entirely different plane than what passes by most as “forward-looking analysis.” Sometimes you get what you pay for (and sometimes not - I’m not sure Mark Twain had it right when he said we have the best darn Congress money can buy).

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

{{But I was wondering about what you said. You have told us your husband is in the military. Does he like your words “upholding democracy ( sneer sneer)” in reference to Iraq? Clearly you are sneering at those fighting in Iraq which are mostly our military.}}

Dusty I’m sneering because we are NOT IN IRAQ TO FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY!!! sheesh!! How many times must this be said? Fist it was because Saddam wasn’t abiding by UN resolutions (Remember?) then it was for WMD’s (remember?) and NOW when there’s nothing else to lie about they think of the new lie of “fighting for democracy!!!” WHO’S DEMOCRACY? Iraq is turning into a THEOCRACY!! 99% of the middle east is under a theocracy or a psuedo monarchy/theocracy!! Next they’ll be telling us we’re fighting for their right to Kill Each Other!

{{Don’t bother to tell me about free speech. You can say what you want to say. But I wouldn’t call that support of our troops.}}

Oh please. Once again, No Democracy in Iraq; none, none, NONE — never had it, never will. So, what are we fighting for? Sand?

By Dusty

January 31, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Aw Paul, did you get bored and have to bring up China? Now the liberals have to tell us how much BETTER China is than the USA, whether it is true or not. Oh well. I wanted to mention the cartoon.

That looks more like a delicate Luckovich drum major than one of Bush. I can’t picture a tiny little Bush in high heels but Luckovich…Yes. And followed by a bunch of horn tootin’ liberals..Yes!

By the way, did you see Texas Senator Cornish(sp) on Lehrer New Hour last night saying that passing a restrictive resolution on the military in Iraq after approving a General to lead the “surge” was not supportive of our troops? That General Petreaus said the same thing? Sen.Durbin was there too and looked like he had just had a big liberal drink of vinegar. May he needs a new “fixed” smile like Pelosi.

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

@@: {{ Al-Qaeda leaders are shown in the DVD speaking from a cave, while pictures of Jews praying are subtitled: ‘Brothers of pigs and monkeys.}}

Jews and Muslims have been at war, figuratively and literally, for over a Millenia. What’s so new about that? They were fighting back in BIBLICAL times — you expect them to kiss and make up overnight?

By Randy

January 31, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

{{ Al-Qaeda leaders are shown in the DVD speaking from a cave, while pictures of Jews praying are subtitled: ‘Brothers of pigs and monkeys.}}

Don’t the libruls call Bush the Chimperor? How Al-Qaeda-ish of them.

Mikey, your librul band of Mary Men play on. Aren’t you proud? Puff up your breasts and lead your band.

By AND IN THE NEWS TODAY

January 31, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

January 29, 2007

The Honorable Condoleezza Rice Secretary of State Department of State 2201 C Street, NW Washington, DC 20520

Dear Secretary Rice:

During your appearance before a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on January 11, 2007, I asked you a question pertaining to the administration’s policy regarding possible military action against Iran. I asked, “Is it the position of this administration that it possesses the authority to take unilateral action against Iran, in the absence of a direct threat, without congressional approval?”

At that time you were loath to discuss questions of presidential authority, but you committed to provide a written answer. Since I have not yet received a reply, the purpose of this letter is to reiterate my interest in your response.

This is, basically, a “yes” or “no” question regarding an urgent matter affecting our nation’s foreign policy. Remarks made by members of this administration strongly suggest that the administration wrongly believes that the 2002 joint resolution authorizing use of force in Iraq can be applied in other instances, such as in the case of Iran. I, as well as the American people, would benefit by fully understanding the administration’s unequivocal response.

I would appreciate your expeditious reply and look forward to discussing this issue with you in the near future.

Sincerely,

James Webb United States Senator

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

@@: {{Debbie:Well of course you hungry for the first paragraph, but subsequent paragraphs followed. You didn’t like them? They were the dessert.Consume the words “present view”, “If”, “November”, “Spring” “other provinces” and “Basra”. It’s a schmorgasborg, and some of it looks tasty to the U.K.}}

@@ basic headlines follow this syntax:

Heading: Tells what the outline is going to be about.

First Sentence/Paragraph: Gives first thoughts to substantiate heading.

Body: Gives credence either pro or con to back up first paragraph and/or heading.

The headline read: Britain at odds with US over Iraq troop pullout.

The first paragraph (I already gave it earlier will not repeat it but…) it quoted the FOREIGN SECRETARY Margaret Beil who said the Brits will pull out in Spring.

The LAST PARAGRAPH: The one you referenced, quoted a SPOKESWOMAN from the Minister of Defense’s Office. Now as you know in politics, if it doesn’t come from the horses mouth and just it’s mouthpiece, the horse can later on confirm or deny it validity.

Journalism 101.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Dusty

Then along comes James Baker, whom Democrats referred to in glowing terms when the Administration did not embrace his plan, telling wavering Republicans to give the surge a chance before taking other action. Good judgement on Iraq with one recommendation, bad judgement on another? Or good judgement if the Pres likes it, bad if te Pres doesn’t like it?

This Sen Feingold resolution is going to make life absolute heck on the Dem candidates, let alone rank and file members. The far Left of the Party is getting what they voted in - and I don’t think the reps are all that happy. Edwards will benefit, early on anti-Iraq, Sen Obama, too - but it just keeps getting stickier and stickier for Sen Clinton.

Heard a political advisor the other night (Democrat) opine that the worst thing that could happen in the immediate future for the Democratic Party would be for Iraq to show demonstrable progress. I was amazed he’s say that - publicly. All is subsumed to political advantage.

You may enjoy Dick Morris’ analyses. He was a major player in guiding Pres Clinton to the White House - and keeping him there with generally high approval ratings. You can sign up at www.dickmorris.com

By Dusty

January 31, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

You asked what we are fighting for in Iraq? Well, I would say that we are fighting for those who still believe in democracy. There is no dictatorship but a constitutional Iraqi government which we may or may not believe is lastingly democratic. Time will tell.

I would tell our troops that they are fighting for what we have believed in since the 1700s. (No sneering!) I certainly do. Sorry you have lost the “faith”.

By Dusty

January 31, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Wasn’t Dick Morris, the political wizard, the one who was “run off” for his “social” habits or something? Maybe I will read what he has to say but right now I am running out of time. Not by retreat but by necessity.

PS..Are Edwards and Obama running on anything other than law degrees and charisma?

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Dusty: In the 1700s the citizens of the soon to be United States fought for their OWN freedom and won. I think that would be the best course for all other countries who profess to want freedom from their tyranny.

All through history, both recent and past, no matter how good or devious our intentions are it has been shown to us time and time again that once we Americans come in as “liberators” we are seen as “Occupiers” by the local population.

In Iraq, Somalia, Haiti, Kosovo, VietNam etc. the same thing over and over we come in as liberators and before the year is out the people of the country are throwing rocks at US.

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

{{PS..Are Edwards and Obama running on anything other than law degrees and charisma?}}

Well it’s a lot better than running on Jim Beam and Stupidity.

By Goldie

January 31, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Love today’s toon, Lucko — and I just love those girly majorette boots!

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Jews and Muslims have been at war, figuratively and literally, for over a Millenia. What’s so new about that? They were fighting back in BIBLICAL times — you expect them to kiss and make up overnight?

DDR,

If I might step in here for a moment - I think this misses the point entirely.

Jews are not a threat to civilization, they are not attempting to conquer or convert “infidels” to their religion, or requiring that non-muslims live in a state of “Dhimmitude” when living im Islamic countries, or requiring women to live in a subjugated state.

In contrast, Islamists who follow Jihad are enganged in precisely that “struggle” and they are utilizing various means to convert the world to Islam - some by force, some by indoctrination, some by infiltration of countries who are then overwhelmed by the sheer numbers in the population.

The younger muslims in places like England, Belgium, and the Netherlands are becoming radicalized, thanks in part to misguided concepts of “muli-culturalism” which divide people by religion, race and culture instead of uniting them as citizens of the country they inhabit.

30 percent of U.K. residents follow Islam, and out of that number a shocking 60 percent would like to live under Sharia Law. Europe is becoming Eurabia, with disastrous portents for our future.

The Left, here and elsewhere, while claiming to abhor radical Islam is actually facilitating its growth. Instead of demonizing this very real threat, all the energy is focused on depicting Christians and Jews as the enemy, while appeasing radical Islam.

This is a very interesting review of a book called “Dhimmi” that explains Islam in historical context.

I realize that it is from a Jewish website, but if you read the review I think you will agree that it is a fair assessment of what the author describes.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Yeah, he was the “foot fetish” guy. Then I fell into the trap for a time of not investigating his thoughts because of his proclivities. He has a point of view much different than what one often hears. O’Reilly was interviewing him, OR was pressing and pressing on an issue - Morris cut him off with “you’re asking me about right and wrong. I’m telling you what he has to do politically.”

If that doesn’t raise your interest, nothing will!

By Midori

January 31, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

OOOOOOOOO, Debbie!!!

!!!SNAP!!!!!

{{{{Well it’s a lot better than running on Jim Beam and Stupidity.}}}}}

By nuff-said

January 31, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Great cartoon!

By Blackadder

January 31, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Debbie, Don’t forget that when we fought for our independence we had help from the French. The French also helped quite a bit during WWII. They were obviously smart enough to refrain from getting involved in Iraq and for that we disregarded our long friendship and now regard them with contempt. Well, not all of us. just the Bush supporters.

Your point is still valid. The French HELPED with our revolution and didn’t try and dictate everything like we are doing in Iraq.

By Midori

January 31, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Leave it to that idiot b*tch sheep, B-a-a-a-a-h Danish, to jump in when no one is talking to him/her/it.

By Zman

January 31, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

I’m surprised Lucko didn’t have Dusty, RW, and Buy Danish lined up behind ole GW in todays toon.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight

I just gotta ask, make sure I understand your position -

Are you proposing we withdraw our forces from the Kosovo Force (doesn’t count if they’re UN or not - local populace sees us as occupiers). Also no further interventions in Somalia? And almost next door - you rule out anything with the Sudan? Let’em starve, let the (almost, according to the UN) genocide continue? (again, as part of a UN or other regional cooperative effort doesn’t count).

Just trying to understand your criteria for US military involvement -

I’m off for lunch -

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

{{{The French also helped quite a bit during WWII.}}}

Blackadder,

That statement is just breathtakingly stupid.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Ridiculous Parrot,

GFY. You’re jumping in on something I addressed to DDR.

By Randy

January 31, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, Here’s one that I read at Wooten’s yesterday.

Diversity will never unite us

This has been one of the worst effects of the pernicious doctrine of multiculturalism. The fetish of celebrating differences found champions in the radical Left in Britain in the Eighties among people who regarded themselves as counter-cultural or subversive, particularly many employed in local government, and who projected their own fixation with difference on to others. Successive British governments over the past two decades have taken up and promoted multiculturalism so that even today we hear it in the rhetoric of politicians.

When Tony Blair said last December that immigrants should sign up to British values – “belief in democracy, the rule of law, tolerance, equal treatment for all, respect for this country and its shared heritage” – he was striking the right note. In the same speech, however, he also said that we should celebrate our diversity. The Prime Minister strives, as ever, to be all things to all people.

But one group to which he need no longer pander are the multiculturalists, for only the deluded would today promote a dogma that has demonstrably caused enormous harm.

Read it and weep for this country if the dems take over in 2008.

By Goldie

January 31, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

There’s a good documentary showing on HBO this month: “Friends of God”;. I watched it for the first time last night. As well as having the Ted Haggard explain to the camera about the righteousness of his evangelicals (and how they have the “best sex lives” of all), it also shows how those churches are indoctrinating the really young children into believing that “scientists are evil”, and “the history of the world is written in the Bible”… and even scarier, they’re also procreating like there’s literally no tomorrow!

By moonbat betty

January 31, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

“Well it’s a lot better than running on Jim Beam and Stupidity.”

LOL

Whoop there it is…the Dem’s campaign slogan.

By Midori

January 31, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Besides stupidity and Jim Beam, looks like he also ran on the crack pipe:

“I am surprised, frankly, at the amount of distrust that exists in this town,” the president said. “And I’m sorry it’s the case, and I’ll work hard to try to elevate it. So the idea that somehow I was trying to needle the Democrats, it’s just — gosh, it’s probably Texas. Who knows what it is? But I’m not that good at pronouncing words anyway.”

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

Randy,

Pray tell, WHAT, over the last 12 years of Republican majority in Congress, including the last 6 with a Republican President…

WHAT has been done to curtail multiculturalism (which, can I assume, you deplore)?

(hint: the followup question will be, ‘what would happen differently in a Democratic Congress?’)

By getalife

January 31, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

“What with the polls and everything, the Washington Post said the other day that I was, quote, ‘at the nadir of my presidency.’ The press always underestimates me. I can go lower.” — Dubya, who thinks 3060 dead soldiers is funny

By Randy

January 31, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Paul, That Morris guy ran Clinton’s campaign? Was O’Reilly asking him what Bush needed to do politically?

The results of the votes at his site were interesting. Out of 62,045,000 votes cast, the results.

Dick Morris website:

Q: Do you agree to a ban of racial profiling?

A: 92% NO 8% YES

Q: Is it time for Hillary’s Healthcare?

A: 93% NO 7% YES

Q: How would you rate Bush’s SoTU Address?

A: 44% Great 37% Good 12% Fair 8% Terrible

Q: Should Scooter Libby be on trial?

A: 88% NO 12% YES

Q: Hillary says send more troops to Afghanistan instead of Iraq: Do you agree?

A: 87% NO 13% YES

Is Morris a dem, a repub, or an indy?

Interesting! Interesting! Interesting! Interesting? Interesting!

Results on all five were Interesting!

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 01:01 PM | Link to this

Randy,

Meant to add this question:

What would Randy do to curtail ‘the pernicious doctrine of multiculturalism?’

Can’t wait to hear this…

By Edwin Williams

January 31, 2007 01:03 PM | Link to this

Just one correction please. Not even close to 30% of Britain’s population is Muslim. It is closer to 10% as it is in France as well. It is still enough to cause all kinds of trouble because they do want to force the world to be like them rather than to assimilate into their adopted societies.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 01:06 PM | Link to this

Randy,

Thank you - good read. You’re probably familiar with Frontpagemag.com, but if not, go there with a huge box of tissues.

LHU,

Academia is infested with Leftists who teach multiculturalism as a religion. The media, notably sources like the New York Times and PBS are acolytes of the concept of multi-culturalism, and the concept of “diversity” which replaces “unity” and “the melting pot” as the ideal.

Democrats overwhelmingly have a philosophy which divides us by gender/race/culture/religion and buys into the multicultural/diversity propaganda.

What exactly do you suggest we do about it other than expose it as the fraud that it is?

By Blackadder

January 31, 2007 01:07 PM | Link to this

I suppose BD never heard of the French Underground who risked their lives to save American and British pilots and ran reconnaissance against the Nazi’s. They also provided much needed intelligence.

BD please brush up on your history so you won’t sound so breathtakingly ignorant.

Don’t worry - I’m still trying to improve the discourse here. ignorant isn’t necessarily a bad thing. It just means you need to be informed.

It’s unfortunate that I felt the need to point that out to you.

By Randy

January 31, 2007 01:08 PM | Link to this

LordHelpUs, The reps have identified the enemy and kept them from attacking us. The U.S. is not the enemy no matter what you libruls want to believe and promote.

The dems RIGHT NOW support the enemy through withdrawal ummm redeployment, appeasement, negotiations, and their ignorance of the threat.

By Randy

January 31, 2007 01:15 PM | Link to this

LordHelpUs, What would I do curtail multiculturalism? Nothing.

What would I do to promote unity? I’d ask that you pledge your allegiance to the country during a time of war.

Got it?

NO?

Get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 01:19 PM | Link to this

Edwin Williams,

I have heard that the number is much higher, but maybe that is just in the large urban centers.

More scary statistics:

Twenty-eight percent hope for the U.K. one day to become a fundamentalist Islamic state

The news is no less alarming on the question of freedom of speech. Seventy-eight percent support punishment for the people who earlier this year published cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed. Sixty-eight percent support the arrest and prosecution of those British people who “insult Islam.” When asked if free speech should be protected, even if it offends religious groups, 62 percent of British Muslims say No, it should not.

Also concerning freedom of speech, as the NOP Research survey reports, “hardcore Islamists” constitute nine percent of the British Muslim population. A slightly more moderate group is composed of “staunch defenders of Islam.” This second group comprises 29 percent of the British Muslim population. Individuals in this group aggressively defend their religion from internal and external threats, real or imagined.

The scary reality is that only three percent of British Muslims “took a consistently pro-freedom of speech line on these questions.”

What is Goldie all worked up about? How scary the Rev. Haggard is.

Goldie,

Muslims “reproduce” at a very high rate, and it is you Leftists who have told the rest of us that it is irresponsible to have too many children because we are polluters.

Why don’t you get mad at the muslim “polluters” for a change of pace?

By Shawny

January 31, 2007 01:24 PM | Link to this

Hey…hey…hey

Lay off the French. They produce the world’s finest quality white flags, which can be attached to a support that readily fits into the end of a combat rifle (where Americans put bayonnetts).

Boy, did that Joe Biden ever come unhinged! Hope none of you were banking on him in ‘08. Quite a flurry of scud missiles.

Anybody mention that the economy is rolling with an increase in consumer spending?!? Now where did those consumers get all that money?!?

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070131/economy.html?.v=14

All in the face of a slowing (or correcting of an overbought) housing industry and lagging auto sales.
“An improvement in the nation’s trade picture helped by stronger U.S. export growth also was a factor in the overall GDP boost.” Nice.

Allow the people to keep more of their money and they will spend more money, creating job growth…yada yada yada.

Free Scooter Libby. Read:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1583703,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partner

How overblown that crap is.

Back on that Biden thing…you know, once in power, the infighting is always inevitable. United to get the power, torn how to use it. Actually, it reveals true colors. I think to become a politician of any party, one must be a greedy, money hungry, power freak. If you truly believe that multimillionaires have the best interests of certain groups in mind, you are quite naive. Anyway, I would like to see this ridiculous non-binding Iraq waste of time go toward an up and down Senate vote. Make them all take a position, I say….

By Randy

January 31, 2007 01:26 PM | Link to this

LordHelpUs, Don’t confuse my support of multiculturalism as support for any group wishing to do us harm.

This is a nation founded on Judeo-Christian principles, and those principles should be followed. If you’re a moderate Muslim who is willing to rebuke radical extremists and deny terrorism, you’re welcome to stay.

If not, go back to the Middle East and take it up with the coalition forces. Meet your maker wearing a suicide belt.

I’m outta here for now.

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 01:27 PM | Link to this

Danish: Thanks. I read the reviews for the book and it’s on my reading list but I have not gotten to it yet. I’ll probably get to read it during the summer.

I also know that there are radical muslims in the world who take the Koran’s teachings literally and who are willing to KILL in order to keep the tenets of their religion pure. It’s scary and disheartening especially from a female Muslim’s perspective who is a Muslim by birth —not necessarily by choice, and caught up in the patriarchal teachings of the faith.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali wrote a book about her life as a Muslim and how she disagreed with a LOT of its teachings towards women and has also spoken out about the incident in Saudi Arabia, (where the “religious police” refused to let teen girls out of a burning building because they were not properly attired —hence they died a horrid death), and Iran, (where they executed a 16 year old girl for “crimes against chastity”); and has been a target of death threats against her ever since. Below is the link to her story — with a brief glimpse of her new book about the Muslim woman’s life.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,923-2573976,00.html

I do understand that part — but, forgive me, I also see a small fissure happening within the religious communities here in America. There are people here who are on the brink of turning this country into a Theocracy.

By Nomad

January 31, 2007 01:28 PM | Link to this

Goldie - My wife and I sat down last night and watched that same program (“Friends of God”). I will tell you that both of us nearly passed out from laughing at the drive through church. I have never seen anything like that in my life. Knowing who Alexandra’s mom is, I am shocked that Faldwell even talked to her. However, he did say something that I do agree with and it goes along with your procreation statement and that is (I am paraphrasing, sorry) that to win the White House, you have to carry the majority of the Christian Right.

Even though her mom is on the opposite side of what I believe, I have enjoyed Alexandra’s documentaries very much. I look forward to what else she does.

NOMAD

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 01:31 PM | Link to this

Blackadder,

Of course I have heard of the French underground, you freaking moron.

It didn’t appear that YOU had with your moronic statement that “the French helped quite a lot during WWII”, which has absolutely nothing to do with the Iraq War or the Revolutionary War in any case. The Germans (Hessians) helped us during the Revolutionary War also. What does that have to do with Iraq? A big fat nothing?

I would certainly hope that the French helped us since they they were invaded by the Germans and we liberated them. Luckily for them we didn’t decide “not to get involved”.

You are also ignoring the indisputable fact that the French (Germans and Russians) were recipients of Oil for Food money from the U.N. which BRIBED them into not taking action in Iraq.

By Blackadder

January 31, 2007 01:44 PM | Link to this

BD - I know you are just lashing out at your own frustration at being ignorant of the facts. The French Underground was very effective during WWII in helping us and our allies.

I realize that when someone has no other recourse they must start with the name calling.

I forgive you and don’t forget - I love you too.

By Blackadder

January 31, 2007 01:47 PM | Link to this

It’s hard for some to separate the Iraq occupation with the real wars we have fought.

Maybe their frustration lies in the fact that we shouldn’t be there and they can’t bring themselves to admit that.

Ask them why we’re there and they will bring up every lie Bush has told them. Not to believe leaves only one other choice. Admit they were wrong. They don’t have the cranial capacity to do that.

Poor darlings.

By Randy

January 31, 2007 01:47 PM | Link to this

LordHelpUs, One last post and then I really am gone.

Buy Danish makes a good point with her 1:06.

Are you American or a woman first?

Are you a member of an ethnic group or American first?

Are you social culture or American first?

Are you a Catholic, Protestant, Jew, Muslim, Wiccan, Scientologist, etc. or an American first?

I am an American first and foremost. I will fight to protect this country from it’s enemies both domestic and foreign. I will uphold the laws of the land.

By Shawny

January 31, 2007 01:53 PM | Link to this

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college.

Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and was very much in favor of the redistribution of wealth.

She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his. One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the addition of more government welfare programs.

The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her Father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn’t even have time for a boyfriend, and didn’t really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying. Her father listened and then asked, “How is you friend Audrey doing?”

…to be continued in next post…

By Shawny

January 31, 2007 01:54 PM | Link to this

She replied, “Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus, college for her is a blast. She’s always invited to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn’t even show up for classes because she’s too hung over.” Her wise father asked his daughter, “Why don’t you go to the Dean’s office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.”

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father’s suggestion, angrily fired back, “That wouldn’t be fair! I have worked really hard for my grades! I’ve invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!” The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, “Welcome to the Republican Party.”

By Blackadder

January 31, 2007 01:56 PM | Link to this

Randy - then why are you here and not there? You can’t very well fight from your keyboard.

I, too, am a loyal American. My country is the best country on the planet.

Unfortunately my president is the worst president on the planet.

By Blackadder

January 31, 2007 01:57 PM | Link to this

Shawny - that piece of crap made the rounds about 6 months ago. Where have you been?

By hterrya

January 31, 2007 02:01 PM | Link to this

Regarding the comment by Randy, January 31, 2007 01:26 PM:

“…This is a nation founded on Judeo-Christian principles, and those principles should be followed. If you’re a moderate Muslim who is willing to rebuke radical extremists and deny terrorism, you’re welcome to stay.”

I wish those making claims like the one above would take the trouble to point out exactly which so-called “Judeo-Christian principles” to which they are referring.

It is reassuring to know that the “Judeo-Christian principles” Taliban IS NOT in charge of deciding who is, or is not, “welcome to stay” - THANK the LORD!

By Nomad

January 31, 2007 02:04 PM | Link to this

Shawny - Thanks for posting that. I enjoyed it.

NOMAD

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 02:05 PM | Link to this

{{DebbieDoRight- Are you proposing we withdraw our forces from the Kosovo Force (doesn’t count if they’re UN or not - local populace sees us as occupiers).}}

A UN force is not a US force. US is a UNITED force of all nations.

{{Also no further interventions in Somalia? And almost next door - you rule out anything with the Sudan? Let’em starve, let the (almost, according to the UN) genocide continue? (again, as part of a UN or other regional cooperative effort doesn’t count).}}

Give them AID — send in food not forces. How can the US single handedly stop a country from committing genocide if that is what they want to do? Somalia is a good example of a good deed that went wrong. We were there to help the starving people get the food that was being sent to them away from the warlords. At first it worked fine. Then, sensibly because of stealing, killings, and covert activities, the Marine Commander started to set guidelines and curfews for the people of Mogadishu. All of sudden, we weren’t their saviors anymore — we were perceived as their conquerors. The very people we risked our lives for to make sure they got food and aid, turned against us.

I’m saying give the food and as much aid as we can; BUT until the country is stable — don’t send in troops, OR don’t send troops into hot spots. Now, I’m speaking as a military wife, so my view may be skewed because if there is another hot spot it may be my husband and friends, etc. that will be going to put it out. I have a lot to loose so my point of view my be “prejudiced”.

IMO, and I am NOT a diplomat, nor a politician, when someone fights or works for something themselves, they appreciate it more. When you work for your freedom, and it was a long costly road that led you to it, you will appreciate it more. We as Americans, are stil free, 200+ years after the revolution because we APPRECIATE our freedoms and strive to keep them.

By Midori

January 31, 2007 02:05 PM | Link to this

Blackadder,

he’s been hanging out at Town Hall.com, looking for some cartoons that “doesn’t suck”.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 02:07 PM | Link to this

{{{The French Underground was very effective during WWII in helping us and our allies.}}

Blackadder,

No S#*^ Sherlock1

One more time: I know all about the French resistance and the assistance they provided their American liberators.

Maybe you are a young squirt and only just learned that fact, but for most adults this is not some amazing fact that they were ignorant of until Professor Blackadder came along to educate them.

DDR,

I know all about Ali, but haven’t read her book yet. I’m a bit disappointed that she now says that knowing what she knows she would not have made the film with Van Gogh. I can understand it because she is paying the consequences, but at the same time that is a form of appeasement and is surrendering to the Islamists.

It is notable that she thought that she would be safe since she was living in the “tolerant” Netherlands. There is a very important lesson there for all of us.

As for you fear that we are turning into a Theocracy, this is silly propaganda from the Left who hate Christians as they see them as impediments to unimpeded abortion rights and gay marriage.

There just is no comparison between people who follow Haggard (believe me, I am not one of them) and those who wage Jihad, either in numbers or in what their goals are.

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 02:08 PM | Link to this

Randy,

Being an American first means supporting our principles and our constitution.

It is much more than ‘fighting to protect this country from its enemies…’

You should not be so ignorant that you would reduce the definition of patriotism to something so shallow.

A wise man once said…

“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. “We the people” are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast. Almost all the world’s constitutions are documents in which governments tell the people what their privileges are. Our Constitution is a document in which “We the people” tell the government what it is allowed to do.”

I wonder if you know who that was??

By Phil

January 31, 2007 02:09 PM | Link to this

Aw, it’s just another typical day here in the life of a neocon. They have to find somebody or some thing to hate more than they hate themselves. It’s not easy for them.

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 02:12 PM | Link to this

{{A UN force is not a US force. US is a UNITED force of all nations.}}

That should be UN is a UNITED force of all nations. Sorry.

By AntiRadical

January 31, 2007 02:12 PM | Link to this

Excellent toon ML, good to see you back in top form.

Bob Barr had a good article on the AJC hard copy editorial page this morning. The gist was that the Reps are now seen by the electorate as the party of big government.

The former Rep congressman lays the blame for this perception firmly at the feet of the current administration and concludes that the Rep party will languish out of power until it refocuses on its’ past conservative platform. Mr Barr cites several areas that he sees as egregious errors, not only in terms of fiscal policy but, also, regarding social issues such as loss of personal freedoms and intransigence/preoccupation with wedge issues.

Bottom line was that Reps must “walk the walk” as well as “talk the talk” if they ever hope to regain public trust, and that it will take many years of good behavior for them to accomplish that goal.

Dems have picked up the banner of responsibility and conservativism that Reps callously discraded and are enjoying great success in running with it. Reps should take heed and “act” accordingly.

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 02:13 PM | Link to this

Also, i am NOT muslim — I am however catholic/AME. That’s frightening enough.

By moonbat betty

January 31, 2007 02:14 PM | Link to this

“Unfortunately my president is the worst president on the planet.”

LOL!

Maybe the Dems can run Hugo in ‘08!

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 02:17 PM | Link to this

{{{Unfortunately my president is the worst president on the planet.}}}

idiot Blackadder,

So Kim Jung Il, Fidel Castro, Ahmadinijead, Chavez, Putin and others are better than President Bush?

P.S. Please don’t tell me that you “love” me. Love means something to me, and I don’t like having it marginalized and made meaningless by the phony Kumbaya crowd.

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 02:18 PM | Link to this

{{It is notable that she thought that she would be safe since she was living in the “tolerant” Netherlands. There is a very important lesson there for all of us}}

True. True. Scarey too.

By Old Physics Teacher

January 31, 2007 02:20 PM | Link to this

Shawney,

Sniff, sniff, your story brought a tear to my eyes. Sniff, sniff, the only thing wrong is that my Republican students usually are more like Audrey and Georgie (the cheerleader). They party all night and then get Daddy to call the President of the university to complain about their grades. The ones who work like dogs to get good grades don’t have a daddy that will buy them a Porche because they got a “C.” The Democrat children come from poor backgrounds and work like dogs to make “A’s” so they can get jobs working for the Republican daddy. You obviously don’t live in the real world.

By Shawny

January 31, 2007 02:25 PM | Link to this

Nomad enjoyed it….you didn’t?

Here you go, M…just for you, babe. The point of this cartoon that doesn’t suck is you better be careful what you wish for. You kind of have to think about it a little, not simply wonder if it is a bush sucks rerun or not.

http://www.townhall.com/funnies/cartoonist/ChuckAsay/2007/01/1

By getalife

January 31, 2007 02:28 PM | Link to this

Who is the freaking idiot that allowed the idiot to drive a tractor?

Geeeeeeeeeeeez.

By Blackadder

January 31, 2007 02:32 PM | Link to this

BD - Until those other leaders you mentioned invade other countries and cause the deaths of thousands of their citizens then, yes, in that respect they are better than Bush.

After 9/11, bush had the opportunity to go down in history as a great president but he squandered that on his imperialistic, neocon agenda. Too bad you are among the 30% who don’t see that.

Love, Blackadder

By Goldie

January 31, 2007 02:32 PM | Link to this

I guess today’s lesson to be learned from some of the trolls posting here today: America would be a much better place if only we were all more intolerant of each other. Sounds like the real path of Jee-zus!

By Shawny

January 31, 2007 02:38 PM | Link to this

“Democrat children come from poor backgrounds “

nice.. hey, teach…you must have taught at the Joe Biden school of profiling.

By Blackadder

January 31, 2007 02:44 PM | Link to this

getalife - nice link. Who let that moron behind the wheel of heavy equipment? Didn’t they see him fall off that Segway a while back? If you can’t handle a Segway…

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 02:48 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Speaking of bulldozers, check out this picture - what happened to all the trees?

Gotta be Kidding Goldie,

You’re not intolerant of Christians of course.

By Shawny

January 31, 2007 02:48 PM | Link to this

A/Rad at 2:12, you are correct.

Reps certainly lost their way, and a big chunk of the blame falls on the weak direction of the chief.

Conservative independants (like me) became terribly disappointed with the direction (or lack therof) and fired their servants, who weren’t doing too much serving.

Dems jumped at the opportunity with great success. It will be interesting in the next 2 years to see what they do with it. Do we get alignment and purpose, like Pelosi and co. with the hundred hour mission, or do we get infighting with Biden’s bullets and the Clinton skeleton seeking machine? Should prove some interesting entertainment.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 02:54 PM | Link to this

{{{Until those other leaders you mentioned… cause the deaths of thousands of their citizens then, yes, in that respect they are better than Bush.}}}

Blackadder,

Your ignorance is shocking.

Do you have any freaking idea how many millions of people have died of starvation under Kim Jung Ill’s Stalinist regime? How about the 200,000 men, woment and children held in gulags?

Save your “love” for these people. They could use it.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 02:55 PM | Link to this

Randy 12:59

Morris worked with Clinton on his first gubernatorial bid. After the Republican takeover in Congress in the first off-year elections (sound familiar?) Clinton called him back in. I think he was a major factor in Clinton pursuing a pretty much centrist, moderate policy in many areas. He also outflanked Gingrich and company - he’s quite smart.

He has nothing but disdain for Hillary. Sees her as a fringe Democrat who is essentially a chameleon. He’s written a couple of books which did not endear him to Hillary.

Those poll results represent a subsection of the electorate - but the one on the SOTU reflects the mainstream polls - and the numbers are consistent, no matter the President.

I do not know if he’s still a Democrat or not. Regardless, he’s worth listening to for viewpoints not often heard.

By Midori

January 31, 2007 02:59 PM | Link to this

If there’s a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is,” Bush told reporters at an impromptu news conference during a fund-raising stop in Chicago, Illinois. “If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of. “I welcome the investigation. I am absolutely confident the Justice Department will do a good job. “I want to know the truth,” the president continued. “Leaks of classified information are bad things.” He added that he did not know of “anybody in my administration who leaked classified information

By Shawny

January 31, 2007 03:00 PM | Link to this

I was for the troop surge before I was against it…

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joseph R. Biden Jr. has for years advocated increasing the number of troops on the ground in Iraq. But after Mr. Bush offered his proposal to do that earlier this month, the Delaware Democrat drafted a resolution rejecting the idea as not “in the national interest.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070131-121249-1084r.htm

Good thing the prez didn’t ask for minimum wage increases or socialist health care, or they wouldn’t stand a chance.

By Goldie

January 31, 2007 03:02 PM | Link to this

Danish-donut, correction— I’m only intolerant of those who call themselves “Christian” and then fail to teach what Jesus taught his followers almost 2,000 years ago.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 03:03 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight 12:05

By Elephant Sit

January 31, 2007 03:04 PM | Link to this

How many times do we have to say it? Stop feeding liberals to the elephants unless YOU want to clean up the mess!

“Stop, NO, glub, glub! I said sit, SIT you stupid pachyderm!”

By Paul

January 31, 2007 03:10 PM | Link to this

DebbiDoRight 2:05

Thanks. Sounds reasonable. I often encounter people who were against the Iraq war from the start. But they support intervention in Darfur and elsewhere where there’s mass killing, starvation, torture, rape, etc. When one points out that describes Iraq pre-invasion and how can one support intervention in one country and not another - the topic either changes or it becomes pretty clear one has to do with Bush and the other doesn’t.

I’m still leery of UN involvement - regardless of blue helmets or khaki helmets, the peoples affected will still view us the same. It also is apparent we stay and stay regardless - witness Kosovo.

What you’ve enunciated has many elements of Caspar Weinberger’s guidance - Pres Reagan’s SecDef - which many here would reject out of hand because of the party affiliation of the author, not because of any philosophical differences with the concepts.

By Midori

January 31, 2007 03:12 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON — If you’ve been following the Lewis “Scooter” Libby perjury trial, I can understand how you might confuse Dick Cheney with Tony Soprano. Cheney’s office is beginning to sound a lot like the Bada Bing, minus the dancers.

Court has been in session only for a week, and already we’ve heard about characters being set up (Libby, allegedly, to save political wizard Karl Rove), strung along (media bigwigs, who were to be played like patsies), buried in mud (former ambassador Joseph Wilson, who questioned the raison d’etre of the Iraq War) and ratted out (the famously leak-averse Cheney, revealed to be willing to leak like a washerless faucet when it suits his purposes).

Cheney’s no Tony, though. For one thing, Tony would never let one of his top henchmen go by a preppy-sounding handle like “Scooter.” For another, this kind of all-in-the-family mess would send Tony moping to his long-suffering shrink, whereas Cheney shows no inclination to deal with uncomfortable issues or face harsh realities.

Increasingly, the vice president is sounding as if he lives in a la-la land of his own imagining, a place beyond truth …….

By bon scott

January 31, 2007 03:15 PM | Link to this

More mush from the necom wimp-wimps here. Just the same old lies from the same 4 (or is it 5?) morans who think Bush is the best President ever and Islam is a monolithic well organized cabal that (God willing) will take the world back to the 11th century.

God willing, may they someday discover reality.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 03:18 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

There is something particularly obnoxious about people like you who won’t even outlaw partial birth abortion, to claim that you are a proponent of what “Jesus taught his followers 2,000 years ago”.

By Randy

January 31, 2007 03:22 PM | Link to this

In for a nickle and out for a dime.

Blackadder says (((then why are you here and not there? You can’t very well fight from your keyboard.)))

I could pose the same question to you, but it would be a trite and worthless response.

It’s our voices that go forward in battle. Mine is used to fight against yours nitwit.

LordHelpUs, I sure do know where that quotation came from. My guy Ronnie Reagan. I’ve got his farewell speech on file under The Greatest Republic. Pulled it up because it reminded me of a story he told during that speech. It’s an honor to quote Ronnie. Hope it fits within the limit. If it doesn’t I’ll do a run-on.

“I’ve been thinking a bit at that window. I’ve been reflecting on what the past eight years have meant and mean. And the image that comes to mind like a refrain is a nautical one — a small story about a big ship, and a refugee and a sailor. It was back in the early eighties, at the height of the boat people. And the sailor was hard at work on the carrier Midway, which was patrolling the South China Sea. The sailor, like most American servicemen, was young, smart, and fiercely observant. The crew spied on the horizon a leaky little boat. And crammed inside were refugees from Indochina hoping to get to America. The Midway sent a small launch to bring them to the ship and safety. As the refugees made their way through the choppy seas, one spied the sailor on deck and stood up and called out to him. He yelled, “Hello, American sailor. Hello, freedom man.”

George Bush certainly isn’t the fiscal conservative that Ronnie was by any stretch of the imagination but I have no doubts that Ronnie wouldn't let this happen">http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/vietnam/story/boat.people/) and Bush won’t either, the dems would.

Iraqis deserve a chance. They don’t deserve to be abandoned like Vietnam. I hope to hell we’ve at least learned that historical lesson.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 03:25 PM | Link to this

Midori

Like I said - political sideshow. If anyone’s “shocked” at these revelations they’re pretty naive. “Leak of classified information” isn’t even an issue -

By LMAO

January 31, 2007 03:33 PM | Link to this

“Conservative independants ” like Shawny

LMAO

Or also known as “Bush Lovers” or “Bush Groupies”

LMAO

By Randy

January 31, 2007 03:33 PM | Link to this

LordHelpUs, Don’t know what screwed up the link. Me I guess. Trying again.

Hope it works.

I’m out again.

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 03:38 PM | Link to this

Paul: I don’t support the war in Iraq and never did — mainly because I didn’t believe in the contradictory things that were being said. However, my husband DID support the war and re-enlisted — we are a house divided.

My reasonings for my posts are because, as I said earlier, it’s people that I know, personally who are being affected by it. Since 2003 I’ve been to 5 funerals of friends and family who were killed in Iraq or Afghanistan and I don’t want to go to anymore. To me it’s personal, not philosophical.

Some people who support this war vocally do nothing for it physically. THAT’S what makes me angry. Last year a contingent of Servicemember’s Wives and husbands from Presidio saved up our money and went to Walter Reed in DC to visit a friend who’s husband had been injured and was at Reed. EVERY American should go. EVERY AMERICAN WHO SUPPORTS THIS WAR, should go. EVERY AMERICAN WHO SUPPORTS THIS WAR AND BUSH should go and PERSONALLY thank each and every servicemember there. EVERY LAST ONE. Maybe then they’ll finally see the FACES behind this war and not the RHETORIC.

Like I said, my viewed is skewered and I’m immensely prejudiced concerning the war and about this check that the Americans have to cash that Bush wrote. That’s bouncing all over the world.

We’re loosing allies — they’re tired and want to go home. What then? Our troops are over worked and tired - some are on their THIRD TOUR OF COMBAT DUTY IN 3 YEARS!!! What then?

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 03:39 PM | Link to this

Good Randy,

I wonder, you agree with Reagan?

“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. “We the people” are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast. Almost all the world’s constitutions are documents in which governments tell the people what their privileges are. Our Constitution is a document in which “We the people” tell the government what it is allowed to do.”

Because, if you agree, then be a real patriot and recognize that last November ‘We the People’ told our gov’t to change course…

By Randy

January 31, 2007 03:41 PM | Link to this

Forgot hterrya @ 2:01, It’s about choice demwad.

I see you’re still here.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 03:45 PM | Link to this

{{{God willing, may they someday discover reality}}}

Sybil Sara Bon Scott,

Maybe your friend and neighbor, finch, could direct you to a Sanitarium which observes Sharia Law.

That is a dose of reality that you could really use.

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 03:48 PM | Link to this

Sorry — Walter Reed is an Army Hospital in DC — most servicemembers, (no matter what military affiliation), who are badly injured, from Iraq or Arghanistan go to Kaiserslautern Hospital in Germany first, then on to Walter Reed for most intensive care. Sometimes I “talk” like everyone knows what the heck I’m talking about. Sorry again.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 03:53 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight

That’s a great perspective. Thank you so much for sharing it.

Thank heavens we now have a CJCS who’s addressing Stop Loss, multiple Guard/Reserve deployments, etc. The results won’t be felt for some time - but hopefully we won’t have a repeat.

I also find it extremely frustrating - for years the Defense budget was pumped up because we had to fight two major wars simultaneously. Then it became one major war and a major regional conflict. Along comes Iraq and that was shown to be a house of cards. One war and the military’s “broken”?!!? Please. It was a planning/procurement drill. And Americans got hosed.

Just read another article about equipment shortages for Army forces. That was one of the things Rumsfeld tried to change (all you repeat posters who attack anyone who said anything positive about Rumsfeld - just can it) but of course Air Force/Navy wanted no part of that. So we build big-ticket items (hope we don’t need them for China) and their funding goes lacking. It gets me how Congress again wants to raise taxes or the deficit to plus up the Defense budget - no talk at all about abolishing programs to shift funds to Active Army.

Didn’t mean to go off on that - and I trust you and your husband can “agree to disagree!”

Cheers -

By Screwy Wabbit

January 31, 2007 03:53 PM | Link to this

notice how everything out of blow danishmen’s mouth is hate?

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 03:56 PM | Link to this

DDR,

Thank you for your sacrifice. Your husbands’ service is truly appreciated.

I hope he is safe and back home soon.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 04:07 PM | Link to this

Sara Sybil Bon Scott -

Here are some techniques you may not be familiar with:

1,000 years ago lslamic medicine was the most advanced in the world at that time. Even after ten centuries, the achievements of Islamic medicine look amazingly modern

Such as:

…in the realm of psychosomatic disorders both al-Razi and Ibn Sina achieved dramatic results, antedating Freud and Jung by a thousand years…

Razi combined psychological methods and physiological explanations, and he used psychotherapy in a dynamic fashion, Razi was once called in to treat a famous caliph who had severe arthritis. He advised a hot bath, and while the caliph was bathing, Razi threatened him with a knife, proclaiming he was going to kill him. This deliberate provocation increased the natural caloric which thus gained sufficient strength to dissolve the already softened humours, as a result the caliph got up from is knees in the bath and ran after Razi. One woman who suffered from such severe cramps in her joints that she was unable to rise was cured by a physician who lifted her skirt, thus putting her to shame. “A flush of heat was produced within her which dissolved the rheumatic humour.”

Just what the doctor ordered!

By Goldie

January 31, 2007 04:07 PM | Link to this

Danish-donut, what I find obnoxious about you so called “pro-lifers” is that you cherish only the existence of the embryos, not the humans who are already born into this earthly life. No empathy for the women who find themselves in a bad or even dire situation and dealing with a decision about whether to have an abortion as a last resort. What programs do you support for those children who are abused and/or killed by their parents because they were unwanted to begin with? And how many adopted babies have you taken into your family?

And where in Jesus’ teachings does he rant against homosexuals and abortions that were occurring even back 2,000 years ago? Not a word from his lips about that — these rants are issues that are created by the religious leaders of today in order to hang on to their own political power and use these issues for driving wedges between people. But, that’s obviously lost on you, with your strict and narrow ideology and all… seems very similar to what the Islamic extremists teach their followers.

By LuckoDull

January 31, 2007 04:10 PM | Link to this

It is fascinating to watch Gore’s acolytes belittle Crichton for being a novelist, apparently undaunted by the fact that they’re getting their science from a movie and a politician. At least Crichton is a Harvard Medical School graduate — which suggests that he has some appreciation for the scientific method. When Gore took natural science classes at Harvard, The Washington Post has reported, he received a D as a sophomore and a C+ in his senior year.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Goldie

January 31, 2007 04:10 PM | Link to this

Another puke story coming from our representatives in GA:

“The time is right,” state Rep. Ben Bridges Sr. (R-Cleveland), who sponsored the resolution, told the House this morning. “I know of no one who has done more for the people of this state than Zell Miller.”

By Shawny

January 31, 2007 04:13 PM | Link to this

Bush lover?!?

Now I am LMAO. Not hardly.

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 04:15 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Don’t you remember the tales of Jesus preaching AGAINST peace, tolerance, liberals, multiculturalists, etc?!?!?

Don’t you watch Robertson and Falwell?

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 04:18 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Let me get this straight - you’re saying that partial-birth abortion, is performed to get rid of unwanted children?

And to think that all this time I thought it was to “protect the life and health of the mother”.

My bad.

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 04:19 PM | Link to this

{{DDR,Thank you for your sacrifice. Your husbands’ service is truly appreciated. I hope he is safe and back home soon.}}

Thanks for the sentiment, but my husband is currently in Defense Linguistic School in Presidio — learning Arabic and Arabic Customs.

However, if me and people like me get our way, hopefully ALL american troops can be home, safe, loved and happy by the end of this year.

By RE

January 31, 2007 04:25 PM | Link to this

So how does everyone here feel about this war in iraq continuing for another 2 years until 2008?

That all volunteer military we have will be getting on their 4th,5th, and 6th deployments by the time we have a new president in office.

No one, not Bush or Pretreus or anyone else has set down a timeline for when we might be out, and Bush thinks we would need to be there in a combat role after he leaves office.

How many combat deployments should our military have to go on to? Does anyone else here think that 6 combat deployments is asking too much of our servicemen?

By @@

January 31, 2007 04:25 PM | Link to this

Oh shute! G-E-T-L-I-F-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Midori says Dick Cheney and Tony Soprano have a lot in common.

What’s a girl to do? My two favorite conservative tough guys. I think Jack Bauer (Keifer Sutherland) is probably a leftist in unreality like his Dad. But he does a helluva job looking tough on 24.

Predictable strike by Getalife….

”@@, you should go see Tony’s psychiatrist.”

Am I right Getalife?

See, the best defense is a good offense or is that the other way around?

R.W.?

Honu?

Getalife?

Anybody?

By getalife

January 31, 2007 04:29 PM | Link to this

“I’m delighted to be back at Alfalfa. When I was here last year, my approval rating was in the 30s, my nominee for the Supreme Court had just withdrawn and my vice president had shot someone - Ah, those were the good old days.” — Dubya, joking about everybody hating him at the exclusive Alfalfa Club

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 04:29 PM | Link to this

LHU (do nothing peace activist)

Have you freed Tibet yet?

By RW-(the original)

January 31, 2007 04:30 PM | Link to this

President Hugo Chavez

President Fidel Castro

President Bashar al-Assad

That’s three presidents that Blackadder would prefer over President Bush. I think it’s fair to say he would prefer President Saddam Hussein as well since he says we should never have gone there.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 04:31 PM | Link to this

LHU

LOL. Wasn’t He the one who ate with hated tax collectors (nothing changes, there), spent time with street people, w*******, unclean people, Samaritans (goodness, he even traveled there), ate when he shouldn’t, healed when he shouldn’t and in general proved a right royal pain?

I can see the next step now - were those “liberal” or “conservative” actions? Well, let’s see… He was “liberal” in his criticism of those who misused their positions and power for personal gain and to oppress people (Pharisees and Saducees, kinda like both Democrats and Republicans?) and He was conservative in doing away with all the garbage and reinstalling true worship. Howzat?

By Mike

January 31, 2007 04:31 PM | Link to this

There was good news on the economy today, although you would never know it from reading the AJC. You ever notice how the AJC refuses to ever acknowledge any news that conflicts with the liberal lie that the economy is anything but superb.

Every other news outlet has given this story prominence. Only the hyper-partisan AJC refuses to tell the truth.

“The economy gained speed in the final three months of 2006, as Americans shrugged off the slump in the real estate market by spending more money on everything from computers to food.

The Commerce Department reported today that the nation’s gross domestic product, the broadest measure of economic activity, grew at a 3.5 percent annual rate in the fourth quarter of 2006, noticeably faster than the rates recorded in the second quarter (2.6 percent) or the third (2 percent).

For the full year, the gross domestic product — the nation’s total output of goods and services — grew 3.4 percent, an improvement on 2005, though not quite matching the 3.9 percent rate of 2004.

Today’s report includes other signs that the economy is on a steady footing. A broad measure of inflation that the Federal Reserve watches carefully settled back down to a 2.1 percent annual rate for the quarter.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/31/business/31cnd-econ.html?hp&ex=1170306000&en=7d0d53dc81268a4d&ei=5094&partner=homepage

By RW-(the original)

January 31, 2007 04:35 PM | Link to this

@@,

Keifer says he’s basically a socialist, but views it as common sense

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 04:36 PM | Link to this

BD (Do-nothing hypocrite)

Have enlisted yet?

By Only in red GA

January 31, 2007 04:38 PM | Link to this

{{Iraqis deserve a chance. They don’t deserve to be abandoned like Vietnam. I hope to hell we’ve at least learned that historical lesson.}}

Randy— Iraqis have had their chance! It’s up to their democratically elected government to take control of the warring militias and it’s past time for American troops to get out of there!

And as far as history lessons go, if your guy Dubya had any understanding of history at all, we would never have invaded Iraq to begin with! We’re repeating the same mistakes made by Britain when they tried to create one country (called “Iraq”) out of 3 warring religious sects over 50 years ago.

By DebbieDoRight

January 31, 2007 04:41 PM | Link to this

War casualties overflow Walter Reed hospital

Officials at Walter Reed Army Medical Center are referring some outpatients to nearby hotels because casualties from operations in Afghanistan and Iraq have overloaded the hospital’s convalescence facility.

http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20030804-121425-6485r.htm

By getalife

January 31, 2007 04:42 PM | Link to this

@@,

Start with a soldier like Libby to get him to turn on the boss.

Make no mistake, these criminals have pulled off the biggest fraud and theft in world history.

The mafia should be impressed.

By N-GA

January 31, 2007 04:43 PM | Link to this

Edwin…about your 1:03 post “… because they do want to force the world to be like them rather than to assimilate into their adopted societies.”

That is complete BS: only the fringe elements in the muslim world feel that way. It would be just as stupid to say that about American Christians. Muslims are a very tolerant people (I’ve lived there). But the U.S. and Israel have pushed many of them over the edge (I’ve posted on that topic here several times and never once had anyone chosen to debate it).

And Buy Anish…in your 1:31 post you stated: “You are also ignoring the indisputable fact that the French (Germans and Russians) were recipients of Oil for Food money from the U.N. which BRIBED them into not taking action in Iraq.” You seem to be ignoring the fact that a Texan was prosecuted for being directly involved in the Oil for Food scandal. Last I heard, a Texan was an American.

If you condemn entire countries/peoples because some of them were involved in the scandal, then you should probably make sure you slander all of those countries/peoples.

By Truthman

January 31, 2007 04:45 PM | Link to this

I just read on article about how Barack Obama’s campaign was “freezing out” FAUX News because of it’s stupidly running with the “Obama is a terrorist” story last week.

It was opined by a pundant that “Obama, or any other Democrat, can’t win without talking to FAUX News because of all the people in the red and purple states. They need to know where the candidates stand.”

I, however, am of the opinion that since FAUX News is a news organization in name only (otherwise, why are they continually wrong on stories such as Obama, Plamegate, Global Warming and on and on), and since most of the country has come to that same conclusion - otherwise the Repugs would still be in charge of Congress - that ALL

By Truthman

January 31, 2007 04:48 PM | Link to this

Darn it! I hit the “send” button a sentence too soon.

In a nutshell, I believe it is in the Democratic party’s best interest to TOTALLY BOYCOTT FAUX NEWS from this day forward.

An entity such as FAUX News is best ignored as it usually goes away.

By Randy

January 31, 2007 04:51 PM | Link to this

LordHelpUs, I agree. All Ronnies should be driving. For me a change of course would be NOT REPEATING THE ABANDONMENT OF A PEOPLE. We’re on that course and it’s a change from the course we took in Vietnam.

How we got into Iraq is history now. We can salvage the last part of what you probably saw as a grave miscalculation.

Today we are ——>HERE<—— in Iraq. How do we move forward without abandoning the people of Iraq to the same fate as the Vietnamese?

That’s the reality of our situation in Iraq.

Can’t go back. Can’t leave it as it is.

Whats left?

By the way I like Thomas Jefferson too. His statements during times of war hit right in the bread basket.

“I feel assured that no American will hesitate to rally round the standard of his insulted country in defense of that freedom and independence achieved by the wisdom of sages and consecrated by the blood of heroes.” —Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Georgetown Republicans, 1809. ME 16:350

“The laws of nature render a large country unconquerable if they adhere firmly together and to their purpose.” —Thomas Jefferson to Henry Innes, 1793.

“I am exceedingly sorry to learn that the enemy are committing such cruel depredations… however, it may tend to produce immoveable hatred against so detestable a nation and thereby strengthen our Union.” —Thomas Jefferson to Cols. Skinner and Garrard, 1781. ME 4:410, Papers 5:451

By RE

January 31, 2007 05:00 PM | Link to this

Randy,

Those quotes from Jefferson sound a lot like a country fighting a defensive war from an outside invader. And I think he is correct. And that is not good for our troops over there.

By nuff-said

January 31, 2007 05:00 PM | Link to this

Fox News is unimportant. The truth is coming out. Patrick Fitzgerald is an American Hero. The Plame case shows Bush for what he is. He lied to America. He knew the Uranium-Niger-Iraq story was bogus. yet, it fit his desire for war. So he cooked it up. Then, when Joe Wilson told the truth Bush went berserk. The incompetent Bush had to get the honest man. So, Bush had the “fall guy” Libby and others tell the media Joe’s wife was CIA. Bush the liar becomes Bush the rat. Bush was willing to sacrifice all the CIA work of Plame and others to get back at Joe. What is the Bush lesson? Simple, Bush wants to be told what he wants to be told. Truth will win out. Truth has won out.

By N-GA

January 31, 2007 05:04 PM | Link to this

Midori…it is beautiful up here…a river full of trout in my backyard and a complete lack of man-made noise.

Paul…gold is still climbing today. Earlier you said that part of this rise in gold prices is the result of actions by China and Russia. I would like a little insight into what those actions were. I know that China has purchased gold (thus affecting the price) because they were accumulating too many dollars. But I thought the Russians increased their production of gold in order to take advantage of the higher prices (same for oil).

I agree that it is not the fault of just this administration. But at least the last administration seemed to more fiscally restrained. More importantly, something needs to be done about this problem NOW! If you believe anything the Comptroller General of the United States (David Walker) says, then we are very close to economic meltdown.

Then there is Warren Buffett who for more than 2 years has determined his investment strategy based upon his belief in the imminent collapse of the dollar.

When I think of our historically low unemployment rate, I visualize thousands upon thousands of workers standing at manually operated printing machines cranking out billions of sheets of US currency.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 05:07 PM | Link to this

Truthman

Here’s a good treatment of all the “facts” surrounding Sen. Obama:

Link:http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Boycott Fox? Seems to me that’d be like boycotting CBS over the Mike Wallace/Air Guard fiasco or boycotting the New York Times as they’d practically convicted Rove for leaking the name of a covert CIA agent. Fox, like other network and cable shows, has its share of newsreaders and showmen - posing as journalists. It, as with all organizations, has people of varying degrees of professionalism and competence.

By @@

January 31, 2007 05:10 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Was Scooter a lawyer before he was a soldier, or a soldier before he was a lawyer?

RW:

You told me a long time ago Keifer was a moonbat. I can still be “moonie” over Jack, right?

Oil for Food. I’ve always wondered if Marc Rich was oily in Sandy’s pants?

I’m building my own conspiracy theory here.

Was Jay Rockefeller’s standards oily in Syria?

My imagination runs amuck.

By Midori

January 31, 2007 05:10 PM | Link to this

Jon Stewert explains the Scooter Libby trial. HILARIOUS!!

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 05:13 PM | Link to this

Randy,

Our country was ‘insulted’ on 9/11 and I know of no decent American that did not rally around our military action that was focused on the perpetrators of that attack in Afghanistan.

This administration has attempted to bastardize that military action that enjoyed the support of this country and the world with a completely different mission in Iraq.

Shame on all that have allowed this to occur.

By LuckoDull

January 31, 2007 05:16 PM | Link to this

Huh:

Prime Minister Stephen Harper once called the Kyoto accord a “socialist scheme” designed to suck money out of rich countries, according to a letter leaked Tuesday by the Liberals. The letter, posted on the federal Liberal party website, was apparently written by Harper in 2002, when he was leader of the now-defunct Canadian Alliance party.

Liberals being honest?

What’s up?

Didn’t think anyone was listening?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 05:18 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Source was an economic report I was browsing charting the shift in currency holdings by Russia and China - major players - and the impact that was beginning to emerge in various markets. It was more of a multicausative overview - not a specific one-to-one. But the bottom line is the shifts we are witnessing do not bode well for the US. I’m sorry I can’t be more specific.

I agree with your economic condidion assessment - one reason so many “fiscally conservative Republicans” got tossed. But will a Democratic President be any better? Especially one who wants to expand entitlemnents? We’ll see. Even without new programs our kids and grandkids are going to take it on the chin - outyear costs for Medicare/Medicade are staggering.

For those who think a rise of n% a year isn’t all that bad - take n and divide into 72. That’s roughly the number of years until program costs double. Or another way, if you make an investment of x dollars at 8 percent, in about nine years you have doubled your money (unless it’s a lot and the gov’t takes a lot to give to someone else). Take a look at the billions in those programs and the annual increases, then realize in a few short years program costs double.

But elections come every 2 to 4 years, so there you have it.

By Midori

January 31, 2007 05:20 PM | Link to this

GOP lawyer: Facts ‘misconstrued’ in Rich case

It appears Scooter wasn’t a very good lawyer at that.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 05:23 PM | Link to this

NGA,

Who pushed the prophet Mohammed “over the edge”? Not George Bush.

Your statement that only the fringe elements want to force Islam on the rest of us is patently false. Just today we have cited numerous studies that describe Islamic sentiment in the U.K., and vast numbers want an Islamic State/Sharia Law established. And that’s in a Western Democracy for x sakes.

As for that Oscar Wyatt, the Democrat donor Texan who was involved with the Oil for Food scandal, did he have a seat on the Security Council that permitted him to veto UN resolutions? Was he influencing our foreign policy postions at the White House with oil money bribes? No he was not.

What were his foreign policy positions on Iraq?

By the late 1980’s, Coastal was importing as much as 250,000 barrels of oil a day from Iraq. As these oil imports became more and more important to Coastal’s operations, Mr. Wyatt became more outspoken in his opposition to any threatened or standing trade sanctions by the United States in the Middle East, including a move by Congress to impose restrictions on trade with Iraq after Mr. Hussein used poison gas against the Kurds. He was a vocal opponent of Operation Desert Storm during the first Persian Gulf War.

Oscar Wyatt - Just another anti-war activist.

By N-GA

January 31, 2007 05:28 PM | Link to this

Dangit Paul, I thought you would laugh hysterically at the image of: “…thousands upon thousands of workers standing at manually operated printing machines cranking out billions of sheets of US currency.”

Perhaps I’m the only one who finds my humor (irony) funny.

By Randy

January 31, 2007 05:28 PM | Link to this

LordHelpUs, You can sing that tired old song to your anti-war crowd. They’ve never had the attention span or stomach to support a war for more than a nanosecond, if that long.

It’s been a proven fact historically speaking. They’re your crowd, not mine.

Al-Qaeda is in Iraq, Afghanistan and around the globe. An enemy without borders. An enemy without conscience. An enemy that sets no bounds of decency for itself.

You and I will never agree on this issue. Let’s leave it at that.

My wife has got dinner waiting on me.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 05:34 PM | Link to this

LHU,

Shame on you and the rest of you phony peace activists who would allow dictators to flaunt peace treaties, and thumb his nose at decades of UN resolutions.

You’re the ones who think the U.N. is some sort of sacred shrine of diplomacy, yet you would like to see it run as a completely corrupt and ineffectual organization.

I am not going to re-argue the war at this point, but suffice it to say that Democrats who were privy to classified information, before Bush even took office, urged military action against Hussein because they saw him as a threat with WMDs, nuclear capabilities, et cetera.

The only thing that changed was 9/11 which made it all the more urgent.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 05:34 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

Don’t you just love millionaires who are socialists? Is there a contradiction there?

At least some of the multimillionaire politicians have an explanation - they want to be socialists with our earnings, not theirs.

By N-GA

January 31, 2007 05:38 PM | Link to this

Paul…another issue impacting the US is the increasing number of oil producers who no longer accept US dollars as payment…they now accept Euros, gold, and soon, the Yuan. These countries, of course, have every desire to see the US suffer.

I hope I’m not depressing anyone with these truths. Ordinarily I’m a “glass is half full” kind of person. But I must admit I invested heavily in precious metals (yes there are easy ways to hold your own hard assets) when gold was at $450/oz as well as precious metal mutuals (they are up 100% in less than 30 months). If currency isn’t a safe investment, and real estate is on a down slope, where do you put it? I also went big on emerging market funds.

Paul…did you use Pinot Noir in your boeuf bourguignon?

By Thomas

January 31, 2007 05:40 PM | Link to this

Paul

The biggest problem with Fox (and Comcast) is the entire direction of their newscast is being directed from the upper management exclusively instead of a fair, uncensored, and unbiased standard of news reporting. Their daily list of talking points and the directed censorship at Fox is amazing. Rupert Murdoch has pushed this and now Fox is no better than the old days of yellow Journalism of “Hearst” and “Purlitzer” of the past.

Nowadays, even well known lies are being reported as factual news as well. This brings us right to the sensationalisms defined by the “Yellow Kids” publications.

To add insult to injury, Fox publicly declares themselves “Fair and Balanced” reporting when they are definitly not.

(maybe someone should sue them for misleading advertising. LOL)

Yes I too have come to distrust all Big Business news agencys though just like you, as they all just give lip-service to any real Journalism Ethics.

But Fox has definitly taken it to a new level by their actual censorship and biasedly canned stories. Hannity alone on their network should give you their news credibility in a nutshell.

Just for the record, I once worked at WCOV-TV (CBS) in Montgomery, which later became a FOX affilliate after an internal power struggle and the loss of their CBS affiliation. Back in those days, I thought FOX was an outstanding network as the new kids in the industry (and they were), but they lost their heart and soul along the way, and are now just another big bucks backed Slandering Sensationalizing Media Rag..

Thomas

By getalife

January 31, 2007 05:40 PM | Link to this

@@,

A soldier is the lowest ranking member in the mafia.

They are the ones who obey orders like Libby.

Good soldiers take the fall and do the time without snitching on the boss.

By Paul

January 31, 2007 05:40 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Yes, it was worth a pretty good sustained chuckle. Your humor’s good - mine’s bent.

By N-GA

January 31, 2007 05:41 PM | Link to this

Paul…did someone jack your sobriquet on the 5:34 post, or was it really you?

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 05:42 PM | Link to this

Leave it to (Ted) Turner Broadcasting to dream up a stunt gone wrong.

Unbelieveable stupidity. I hope millionaire NGA doesn’t own a lot of their stock since they are going to have to pay some hefty fines to the City of Boston.

By Truthman

January 31, 2007 05:44 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish! Put down the airplane glue and go outside and breathe some fresh air.

Great wavy gravy!!

Paul, I agree pretty much. Everybody has an agenda, but FOX News…theys abit weird!

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 05:46 PM | Link to this

Randy,

You made no sense. ‘They’ are not ‘my crowd’ and, unless you can’t read, you saw my post that said NO DECENT AMERICAN I KNOW DID NOT RALLY AND FULLY SUPPORT THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN.

As far as your ‘proven fact historically speaking,’ I have no idea what you are referring to, but if you want to back that up, please do so.

Al-Qaeda was NOT in Iraq until we got there. They were definitely in Afghanistan and they are definitely in Pakistan.

Enjoy your dinner. Hope it’s a big healthy serving of reality. (Make sure you go back for seconds)

By N-GA

January 31, 2007 05:50 PM | Link to this

buy anish…to respond to your 5:23 post would imply there was intelligence behind what you posted…since there wasn’t, I won’t.

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 05:51 PM | Link to this

BD,

If you can find anything that your latest lie—-

“you would like to see it (the UN) run as a completely corrupt and ineffectual organization”

—-please be my guest.

Otherwise, these types of accusations are a testament to your lack of intelligence.

By N-GA

January 31, 2007 05:53 PM | Link to this

Paul…good evening. It’s time for an adult beverage and some relaxation…

By Paul

January 31, 2007 05:56 PM | Link to this

N-GA

I’d wondered about that - glad you got in on the upswing. Good for you!

So far the real estate bust isn’t as bad as feared - some regional hits, other areas flat or mild backtracking. Many other areas, though, are doing fine. An area that bears watching is in the foreclosure rate - and it’s not just among “middle America.” Lots of upper-level folks got in on a variety of mortgage instruments, then have a bump and walk away (no equity). There are areas where that is leading do a depression in prices.

Why did you have to ask me that? I went to my storage area - and couldn’t believe what I didn’t have (holidays took their toll). I didn’t want to make another trip to the store - all I had was a merlot, chianti, and a couple of French vintages that were not going into a stew - so used a merlot. It held up better than I thought. I’ve found some burgundys (stateside) a bit thin - and the French - well, I’ve found much of what tastes great in a glass gets obscured in a long-cooked dish. South American/Australian cabs work pretty well in a lot of cooking.

Last November Cooks Illustrated (tv show’s on PBS) tested boxed wines for cooking. Said they held up well. That’s one I’ll have to prove to myself, I think. But not for company.

By @@

January 31, 2007 06:00 PM | Link to this

Well damn Getalife. I was hoping you’d suggest I get on the couch with Tony, but all I’m getting is yadda yadda yadda.

With a wink and a smile, I’m skipping for awhile.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 06:03 PM | Link to this

{{{The biggest problem with Fox (and Comcast) is the entire direction of their newscast is being directed from the upper management exclusively instead of a fair, uncensored, and unbiased standard of news reporting.)))

Thomas the talking twit,

What does Comcast have to do with fair and balanced television newscasts? What does Comcast have to do with News Corp and what Fox News produces?

Just because you once worked in the mailroom of a local Fox affiliate television station doesn’t mean you know wtf you’re talking about.

The affiliates produce LOCAL news, they do not produce the news for the networks or cable news programming.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 06:10 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

Baloney.

LHU,

Which is it - you don’t think the U.N. is corrupt and ineffectual or you don’t like the institution?

“YOU” collectively means the “anti-war Left” and collectively the Left loves the U.N.

If YOU are an exception, then YOU would be a complete anomaly.

By RW-(the original)

January 31, 2007 06:14 PM | Link to this

Funny that when I see a news story during a news segment on Fox, I generally see the story from multiple angles. When I watch on CNN or MSNBC it has generally been decided for me which angle I should pay attention to and the others are completely ignored as if they didn’t exist.

I like to see all the facts and make up my own mind so in that regard Fox News does a better job.

Let’s face it though, none of the 24 hour cable news channels really does much in the way of news content.

Paul,

I think N-GA is a little overly sensitive to your 5:34 because he claims to be a millionaire and he’s definitely a socialist.

I got your meaning though and it is pretty odd, but it’s also Hollywood we’re talking about.

By nuff-said

January 31, 2007 06:15 PM | Link to this

News items: Germany issued arrest warrants for 13 CIA operatives for arresting an innocent man! While Italy issued arrest warrants for 25 CIA who snatched an innocent man in their country.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 06:19 PM | Link to this

Thomas the TV Tycoon,

This is the sum total of Comcast’s “news”.

If you think their stories are censored and biased, send a letter to the Associated Press and any other sources they may use.

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 06:19 PM | Link to this

BD,

You’re so stupid you don’t even know what you wrote…here it is again:

“you would like to see it (the UN) run as a completely corrupt and ineffectual organization”

Now, again, back that up or stop lying.

By GCP

January 31, 2007 06:27 PM | Link to this

OMG @@. There ain’t a damn thing run amuck with your imagination girl. Marc Rich oily in Sandy’s pants is the funniest post I’ve seen anywhere to date.

Freaking hilarious. You kill me.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 06:30 PM | Link to this

LHU,

What is it with you Moonbats throwing the “lie” (and love) word around?

There is no “lie” in my statement, and its meaning should be crystal clear.

If you allow murderous tyrants like Saddam Hussein to sign “peace treaties” they don’t follow, flaunt years of U.N. resolutions, and bribe members of the security council without impunity, then you are enabling it to run as a corrupt and ineffectual organization.

By Thomas

January 31, 2007 06:33 PM | Link to this

BI-Bimbo

First I worked as a Production Switcher and Nightly News Audio Engineer. I was also fresh out of college.

Next: Comcast is just as guilty as News Corp in censoring their programming based on political reasons.

Next: Yes the affilliates do produce their own local news and it is teh closest thing you can get to fair and balanced news content. But affiliates also deal with contextual and content materials being synced with the directing of news content from the networks. This can also include network news pool material as well, that has been sanitized. Affiliate Management often dances to the tune that the Network plays if you catch my drift.

Aedmittedly Fox is not alone, and their other networks have done the same thing with liberal content, but Fox is becoming imfamous for their slanted journalism.

Next: Last I heard (Ted) has very little left to do (if anything at all) with Cartoon Network & Turner Network which is completly owned by Time/Warner. Teds not even on the board anymore.

This ones for You! Dane’

http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=21043

-=-

By One Voice

January 31, 2007 06:45 PM | Link to this

My favorite picture of the murderous tyrant Saddam Hussein was the one from the 80’s when Donald Rumsfeld was shaking his hand and smiling before Rumsfeld kissed his a** behind closed doors. Yes, that’s right; it was the Democrats who were enabling corruption. Black is white, up is down, the truth is a lie, and Republicans are right.

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 06:45 PM | Link to this

Thomas the talking engineer,

I don’t need lessons from you on how television news operates, believe me.

My note about “Ted” Turner broadcasting was meant to be a joke. I am perfectly aware that Ted is no longer part of the operation.

Please advise how COMCAST provides news content or provides editorial direction to Fox News Network, or any network or local affiliate for that matter.

By Quoter

January 31, 2007 06:45 PM | Link to this

“The only thing that changed was 9/11 which made it all the more urgent.”

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over” - J. Goebbels

“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it” - A. Hitler

“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.” - John Stewart Mill

By RE

January 31, 2007 06:47 PM | Link to this

AL Fraken tunning for senate

Wouldn’t be worth it just to see O’Rielly melt down if he wins?

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 06:49 PM | Link to this

BD,

With every post you flaunt your stupidity.

Why don’t you go take a look at the UN resolutions being ‘flaunted’ by the US and Israel??

When the US becomes the ‘decider’ of which resolutions to enforce by military action, then, yes, the US becomes ineffectual.

Also, take a look at this Administration’s posture regarding the UN.

It seems the institution is consulted and respected when it is doing the bidding of the US and corrupt and ineffectual when it is not.

Now, who again “would like to see it (the UN) run as a completely corrupt and ineffectual organization?”

By Quoter

January 31, 2007 06:51 PM | Link to this

“I like to see all the facts and make up my own mind so in that regard Fox News does a better job.”

“The trouble with radicals is that they only read radical literature, and the trouble with conservatives is that they don’t read anything” - Thomas Nixon Carver

By Buy Danish

January 31, 2007 06:54 PM | Link to this

LHU,

Are you referring to resolutions that we don’t vote for?

By LuckoDull

January 31, 2007 06:58 PM | Link to this

One Voice: Seeing how Saddam, at that time, was killing Iranian Revolutionary Guards by the hundreds of thousands, I would have shook his hand too.

Matter of fact, it won’t be very long before the Iraqis are back to killing Iranians by the thousands for us again and I’m sure someone will shake their hands for it.

It’s like the least we can do.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Quoter

January 31, 2007 07:00 PM | Link to this

“Liberals feel unworthy of their possessions. Conservatives feel they deserve everything they’ve stolen.” - Mort Sahl

“The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.” - Unknown

“President Bush is supporting Arnold but a lot of Republicans are not, because he is actually quite liberal. Karl Rove said if his father wasn’t a Nazi, he wouldn’t have any credibility with conservatives at all.” - Bill Maher

“Bush reiterated his stand to conservatives opposing his decision on stem cell research. He said today he believes life begins at conception and ends at execution.” - Jay Leno

“Men are conservatives when they are least vigorous, or when they are most luxurious. They are conservatives after dinner.” _ Ralph Waldo Emerson

By Lord Help Us

January 31, 2007 07:01 PM | Link to this

Sure BD, I’m talking about UN resolutions against the US that the US voted FOR…

I give up, you are just too stupid.

By nuff-said

January 31, 2007 07:02 PM | Link to this

He was hungry for war. He yearned being the “War President”. He wanted the glory of battle. The “great mastermind”. Like Alexander, or Napoleon. So, he lied. A white lie. A lie to get Americans killed. A lie to make the scene seem worse. The State of the Union address in 2003 was where he lied. The president lied to America. A betrayal. Then he flew onto the carrier Abe Lincoln to celebrate his “Mission Accomplished”. While a frustrated American soldier raped a little girl and blew her brains out when he was through,

By N-GA

January 31, 2007 07:07 PM | Link to this

Paul,

All red French Burgundies are made from Pinot Noir, so it is the wine typically used in your dish. Of course a pinot from somewhere else would be fine, too.

However, any dry, hearty red would be fine. A light red would get lost and be unable to stand up to the other ingredients.

I fine it pathetic that Buy Danish has to “sneer” at my economic status. It forces one to interpret her attitude as “coveting thy neighbor’s goods”. What a good Christian she is.

By LuckoDull

January 31, 2007 07:15 PM | Link to this

Here’s a quote from the president for you:

And the question is whether we respond to the income inequality we see with policies that help lift people up, or tear others down.

I think I know YOUR answer to that question.

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By RW-(the original)

January 31, 2007 07:28 PM | Link to this

Talk about unmitigated ignorance. LHU, since you say you don’t mean we’re flaunting resolutions we voted for how about naming the resolutions that we’ve abstained from voting on that we’re flaunting. If we voted NO there is no resolution.

Coming tomorrow:

Iron Chef Paul squares off against Tin Foil Chef Goat, secret ingredient to be unveiled as soon as they determine the starting time.