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Speech was vintage Bush…unfortunately
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
this speech was vintage bush. his words, like cotton candy, dissolve quickly. tomorrow, it’s back to reality. the mess bush has created in iraq, the huge debt he’s saddled our country with.
i visited new orleans a couple weeks ago. mile after mile of destruction. people living in crummy fema trailers in front of their flooded out homes. yet i didn’t hear anything from bush on this. remember his speech in new orleans after katrina, when he promised to rebuild new orleans? more cotton candy.
bush brought up how fighting the terrorists in iraq means not having to fight them here. that is such bull. we’re radicalizing a whole generation of iraqis. the blowback from bush’s blunder in iraq will haunt our children.
i thought bush’s speech as a whole was listless, he’s going through the motions. he realizes the american people have figured him out.





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Comments
By Michael
January 23, 2007 11:43 PM | Link to this
You probably think Hillary would do a better job as President, huh? Or even put yourself in the President’s shoes. How would you handle all of the pressures of this position? What do you want him to do or say? At the top levels of government, I don’t think there’s much difference between Republicans and Democrats anyway. (I think it was George Wallace who said, “There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between Republicans and Democrats.”) And like it’s the President’s fault there was a hurricane. There was plenty of warning and many people got out when told. If any one person should be held accountable for the New Orleans issue, it should be Mayor Nagin. The city bused people to the Superdome. They should have forced them on buses out of town.
By lee10s
January 23, 2007 11:53 PM | Link to this
Well said luckovich! We need a leader that cares about troops dying for nothing, a leader that cares about genicide in Africa, a leader that cares about children starving to death, not only in the USA, but all over the world! A leader that cares about Global warming and protecting our enviroment, health care for the sick and a love for all people! We need a leader like God!!
By Adam
January 24, 2007 12:01 AM | Link to this
i think that michael is missing the point here. lukovich is saying that the president is full of it, and on top of it, he has the audicity to continualy lie to the american population.
By Michael
January 24, 2007 12:19 AM | Link to this
Maybe I am missing the point. I guess Mike IS a political cartoonist, afterall. That makes him an expert in politics. And trust me, I don’t agree with everything President Bush says. But I respect the Office of the President. I personally don’t think the Pres is a true conservative, either, by the way.
By VAS
January 24, 2007 12:32 AM | Link to this
President Bush politely and matter-of-factly gave the neo-Dems and their supporters a factual tongue lashing: These are the facts. Get together and work on them. In this, he is not unlike his predecessor, Mr. Clinton, who did the same thing and “out republicanned” the Republicans on welfare and a few other things. Bush is an adroit politician Your mistake is that you constantly underestimate (and foolishly!) undermine him. (Easy from the vantage point of the press room. Difficult when you have to be accountable for what you say and draw.)
By Freedawg
January 24, 2007 12:34 AM | Link to this
Luckovich, Your cartoons suck and your politics are worse. You democrats and toe sucking liberals don’t get it. The war in Iraq is critical to win now that we are there no matter how we got there. Quit gripping about who did what and live in the present for goodness sake. You guys have not articulated one single concrete plan for Iraq yet; rather you all speak in vague terms of redeployment. Something most ignorant liberals don’t even recognize as retreat. Did you see how the Democrats didn’t even stand up and applaud for victory in Iraq? How shameful is it that these representatives can’t even openly support victory of the mission our troops are trying to accomplish? You live in a land of the Big Drop Candy Mountains, where everything is free and you don’t have to work if you don’t want to and you still get the “right” to health care, food, money, and chocolate cake for everyone. Since you libs are so much in favor of freedom of choice why can’t we make altruism a choice (look it up you ignoramuses). Why can’t I choose to keep the 40% of the wages I earn that I now pay out in taxes or give that 40% to causes I see fit to support? That also would be freedom of choice wouldn’t it? I don’t want your utopia! Did I mention that you’re cartoons aren’t funny or the least bit thought provoking? They are mostly cheap shots of an unimaginative (however artistically gifted) hack.
Go shove your head in the sand or up your butt, which ever you like, and wait for a terrorist to blow up the mall. Then you can draw a cartoon mocking dead civilians like you did our soldiers.
By Freedawg
January 24, 2007 12:52 AM | Link to this
Lee, you are an idiot. May God bless you with some brains before the next election.
Climate change is taking place the argument is whether or not human produced carbons are having an effect on it. Did you know in 1978 Time magazine had a cover that warned about the next Ice Age?
Did you that Gore’s own expert scientists told him while he was researching for his movie that if all the provisions of the Kyoto Treaty were followed to the letter it would have little effect on the climate? In fact it would lower the global temp about .06% of 1 degree in 50 years?
Did you know many parts of the Southern Hemisphere are actually experiencing cooling? Last time I check that’s still part of the globe.
Did you also know that our efforts to control man made carbons will have no global effect if India and China continue to grow and industrialize at their current pace? They are producing more man made carbons than we are in many highly populated areas and are groweing at a faster rate.
Do you think the Chinese will always ride bikes around?
People talk about American being energy hogs because like you Lee they are only listening to half of the story. It is true that the US consumes over 20% of the world’s energy but we also produce almost 30% of the world’s goods. So are we energy hogs or are we efficient producers?
Get your information from more than one source or one point of view Lee. Look I am a conservative and I still read a lot of the crap in the AJC because once a week I usually find something interesting to read outside the sports section, and once a year I will read an editorial that is thought provoking. There’s coffee brewing Lee, do you smell it?
By Polethebear
January 24, 2007 01:47 AM | Link to this
A Few thoughts,
Michael-Maybe he didn’t cause the hurricane but he is obligated to help the pepole who did and not take four days to do it. I don’t why that happened(and I shudder to think as to the reason) but his father and Reagan would have gotten help there faster. It is a free country and if they wanted to stay,so be it. They should not have been forced. Regardless though,Bush still had the obligation to provide quick help for them. Not just because they were American Citzens but because of basic Human Decency.
Lee-Well Said,we do need God here. Because I don’t see any compassion any more.
Vas-Since when do we have to bow down to the all powerful George W Bush??? May not have been your intention in your comment but that is how you sounded.
By the way,why do you guys feel the need to defend him so much???? He’s Failed What is still so great???
You Know I’m a Democrat and I thought Clinton’s little you know what in the oval office was tacky,I won’t defend him there. But it was minor compared some things George Did.
By Polethebear
January 24, 2007 01:56 AM | Link to this
Part 2
* HEAVY SARCASM ALERT *
FreeDawg,you must really be brillant with all that namecalling. Real Macho,Very Impressive. I bet your a real road scholar. Can I get your advice on how to win friends and influence pepole???
* ALERT ENDED *
Look,I am a democrat but I want the best man or woman for the job.However,it seems that person is not coming from the right. It sure has not for the last eight years.
By the way,I don’t automaticly want hillary. If somebody better comes along,I’ll vote for them.
By Joe
January 24, 2007 02:15 AM | Link to this
Here are the facts:
Osama is STILL alive and living in Afghanistan. Yes Saddam was a terrible man but the REAL war on terror was there, NOT in Iraq.
Bush was warned by his Intelligence community and Generals that what we now see in Iraq would come to pass but he ignored them.
The Republicans were in charge of the House and Senate for 12 years. For the last 6 they also had the Presidency. They have done nothing to curb spending.
Had the midterms not been such a disaster for Bush he would still be telling us things were improving in Iraq.
Bush continues to hide behind his “criticizing me hurts the troops” rhetoric.
All you name callers just keep watching Faux News and drinking the koolaide. You helped get us to where we are today.
By CDNASSIF
January 24, 2007 02:16 AM | Link to this
Well Mike, what is going to happen if we do “cut and run” from Iraq? Are all the terrorist going home to raise goats? Or will Hillorat try to have a “time out” with them and try to reason with these killers?
By Head Coach
January 24, 2007 03:41 AM | Link to this
Lets face the Truth. They elected the wrong Republican. Sen.McCain should have been elected(yes I voted for him in the 2000 Republican primary) and he is still the best candidate the Republicans have. If the liberal socialist press and Democrats really believe that the American people will support Hillary Clinton , they have got to be the most narcissistic bunch of YoYo’s alive and YES they will get steam rolled by the Repubicans if they attempt to prop her up as a viable candidate for the white house.
By polethebear
January 24, 2007 04:05 AM | Link to this
Hey Coach,
thanks for telling the truth about mccain and 2000 and that’s from a democrat!!!
Btw,i am not narissistic.
By Freedawg
January 24, 2007 04:22 AM | Link to this
Polethebeat, Good point no need for name calling. Now why don’t you answer any of the questions or counter any point I made in my post. And Clinton’s “little you know” in to Oval office wasn’t the big deal the purgury was.
What amazes me about Democrats and Libs is that you all seem to not be able to argue any point or debate logically. You just put out one liners like “Osma is still alive!” You all also only recognize the only bad thing going on in the Bush presidency.
The Economy is roaring, the stock market is at an all time high, employement is lower than the average of the last 4 decades, schools are improving nation wide, there have been no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9-11.
But Osma is still alive! Yea and he is shuffling from cave to cave focusing his energy in Iraq and not getting caught himself. Better than here huh?
Newsflash, Al Queda is not the only terrorist organization in the world, and most of them have people all over Iraq which is why it is so hard to bring stability in Bagdad. However, 90% of Iraq is under control. Don’t believe me ask a soldier, and by the way most of them believe in what they are doing.
Bush has made mistakes but in Iraq there is a war and in war mistakes are made. Read some history on war and you will know. For instance it was only because Lincoln won the eletoral college that the Civil War even continued in his second term. General McClellan wanted to come to a truce with the Confederate states and had Lincoln not presisted under such opposition who knows what our country would look like today. Leaders don’t need to hold their thumb up in the air to check to wind before making a decision. Leaders aren’t afraid to make unpopular decisions if they are right. Leaders stand up for their convicitons.
Folks who vote Democrat and still talk about God need to consider this. Liberals (democratic base)have lead the charge in taking God out of school, out of the pledge, out of government, and out of the national dialogue for years. They voted for partial birth abortions, a disgusting practice we would not use to execute the most horrible murders. They won’t get behind any legislation with real teeth for child molesters. So what do they bring to the table? My opinion is they bring forced alturism on the tax paying Americans and steal our money to give to others who will vote for them to get
By Nono
January 24, 2007 04:31 AM | Link to this
I am saddened by the tragic loss of American lives—-kids who are strong but confused and not sure if their goal in Iraq is achievable and want this ultimately falwed war for the President’s ego to end so they can get back home to their families with all of thier limbs intact. * Screw these fools, One day you feed ‘em, the next they harbour the terrorist who plants and IED that may take you or your buddies life, cutting short all that you wanted to say to your wife or kids. All the time the real enemy is in the foothills of the Pakistan laughing at Bush. *Silly Americans when will they learn Yeah George, doesn’t sound like you have learned much or tried to listen to the Americans. Your so called bold domestic policies on health care and education are DOA because you waited too long and is really only a divergence. You want those troops in Bagdad so bad you will give up on your soft money friends in the states, offer them as sacrifices to get one more shot at the Iraqi crap table. Face it, Your addicted, and its time for an intervention in the form of an election. I don’t really care who it is, as long as we get the hell out of the middle east and stop the killing. When will you learn, you don’t win by kicking a^^, the winners use their brains first. Oh well, 3200 Americans who will never hug their families again—-you happy George? 10,000 injured Americans, some without limbs——-does this work for you? Why didn’t we just chase Osama? I think this nightmare will be over in - ‘08 and we can elect a leader who cares about us and not some crazy war.
By Freedawg
January 24, 2007 05:13 AM | Link to this
NoNo that is typical liberal bed wetting. here you go, I love you you love me we’re a happy family with a great big huge and a kiss from me to you….
yea lets get another Clinton in there who can bury their head in the sand and wait for the terrorist to build up and attack us again while getting head in the oval office and advancing social programs and high taxes. That will be awesome!
Maybe they will raise the minimum wage to $25 an hour, wouldn’t that be swell. I know, we can tax the hell out of the job producers and then force them to pay wages that forces them to cut profits or jobs. genius!!
Tell you what why don’t we just let the government tell us what to do as a profession, they can assign it to us as kids. Then we can give all our money and assets to the government and they can pass it out like Robin Hood. That way all the democrats I pass on the way to work every morning can keep drinking beer on the corner at 7 am and paying cash for lotto tickets while using food stamps to eat, and still get a check all the while. And becasue I won’t have any motivation to get ahead because I have to give away everything I earn I will pull over, sell the car the government gives me ( i mean its theirs anyway) and join them.
By Kevin
January 24, 2007 05:30 AM | Link to this
This is funny reason new orleans is still behind in gettin back is there wonderful govener n that same mayor who called city chocolate city.Remember the governer n mayor were warn 2 months n again of hurricane n they did nothin try remember that. also remember the Un voted that Usa can go to Iraq under Bill clinton n his rose firm of hillerbeast.Please and gobal warmin is some where ask Gore mouth when he opens it….flyin around his jet plane burin fuel in air what a concerd man…Oh by the way he has a small penis
By Nono
January 24, 2007 05:33 AM | Link to this
Easy on the caffiene freedawg——-I am an American too and believe in free enterprise without goverment intervention, but eh pendulium has swong way to far to the right and needs to center itself for the sake of better domestic planning that involves both you and I—————It doesn’t matter because you better get ready———whether you like it or not she is making a run at your sacrid office and shaking things up. You fat bastards who want to ignore all the injustices are in for a real surprise in ‘08 because your boss went too far to the right.
Still I don’t gloat, there is much to heal——Clinton was no more right than Bush wrong——-there has to be a better leader.
By Peter
January 24, 2007 05:35 AM | Link to this
There were alternatives … if Al Gore or John Kerry were elected (even John McCain). If Dick Cheney were not vice president … where would we be today and what State of the Union would they present?
The American public, if that’s who’s responsible for the outcome of the elections, has let us down. The legacy my generation is leaving those to follow is shameful.
By festus
January 24, 2007 05:57 AM | Link to this
While I agree with your overall assesment of the SOU address, I am sick to death of poor New Orleans. The only effort from anyone in that area is to hold out their hand waiting to get something or hide ill-gotten money in the freezer. The Chocolate City doesn’t need to be saved, it needs to be FLUSHED.
By Freedawg
January 24, 2007 06:05 AM | Link to this
Nono, lets be clear about something I have issues with Bush too and he is not my boss at all. I don’t like the rubber stamp spending that has gone on. In that respect he has abandoned his conservative principals.
What is a real injustice is that Democrats since the Great Society have duped poor people of all races but none so strongly as blacks.
The Great Society was a racist ploy to break down the poor and minorities by giving them incentives to break apart the family unit. It is way to extensive to go through on this blog but if you want to learn more read Thomas Sowell’s book “Black Rednecks & White Liberals”.
Back to Bush, what people need to do is be fair, and recognize the good he has done and the bad. Everyone who is so against going to Iraq now needs to consider and remember where we were 6 years ago.
Answer this, you are the President, and just witnessed the worst foreign attack on American soil ever. You have been given intelligence from our own sources, from the British, the Russians, and French that Sadam has WMDs. We know he harbors terrorist organizations and funds them. He violated resolution after resolution from the UN over a period of 11 years, and now is posturing to be able to deliver destructive force on a massive scale. You are the President, what do you do?
By Polethebear
January 24, 2007 07:20 AM | Link to this
Gonna make this quick…
Freedawg,
I can’t really comment on the god thing other than to say that it is something that all but not some of my fellow dems have choosen to do. They want to give all the right of freedom of religon,speech. While I agree with those rights as long those who use them do not practice hate,I can not agree myself with removing god. I have no trouble saying god in the pledge of alegence. As a christian,I certainly have no trouble praying. Mand Prayer in public schools can be a little too Jerry Farwellish for me. Very Heavy Handed,Over the top but anyway. Also,since you metioned it I’m quite disturbed about the attack on christmas.
I agree with you on PBA’s,it’s hideous and I really don’t like abortions to begin with. But who are we to tell another human what to do with he or she’s body???
Funny thing about the economy booming is…You could have fooled me. In the late 90’s you could feel it. You in the mid 80’s…You could. But now… Is everybody really benifting from it or is it all going to the rich??? BTW,by feeling it,I mean you could since it in the air.The country as a whole was upbeat. Maybe it’s the war and life after 9/11 that are killing that.
Oh if outsourcing is affecting the ecomony boom,I know not everyone is feeling it.
Yes,there are other terroist groups out there.But Al-Qeada is the one with main goal and resources to attack us right now.I guess what gets a lot of us is it just feels like he just dropped/stopped looking for OBL and went on to something else.Maybe he did,Maybe he didn’t. But that’s just the way it feels sometimes.
That whole concept on welfare is interesting.If so,what about all the rural whites that have been on it and the poor whites everywhere. If they wanted to enslave the blacks,they could have left us whites out of the program.
Anyway,gotta go.
By whoever
January 24, 2007 07:34 AM | Link to this
Mike….You too cool for capitalization at the beginning of a sentence? You’re a moron! Learn to write. That’s first day stuff there boss.
By Q
January 24, 2007 07:42 AM | Link to this
So we need another God? Following the liberal logic isn’t it God who has allowed or created all the famine,war,hurricanes,racial Global climate change? How can you blame George Bush. Funny how a man praised god for blessing him when he scores a touchdown. That man forgets god must have punished the man he scored it on.
By Peter
January 24, 2007 07:43 AM | Link to this
Freedawg - True, IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE VIEWS, you can make a case for an invasion of Iraq. Check out U.N. weapons inspector Dr. Hans Blix, about the best intelligence on the ground in Iraq, for a reality check. Ask yourself, if the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, not Iraq, why distract our resources from a search for Osama. This Iraq strategy has been a total failure and many of us have been saying this from 2002 (some sooner).
By LCC
January 24, 2007 07:48 AM | Link to this
The trouble with most people on this blog is that they listen to Neal Bortz & his buddy Sean Hannity too much. I wonder if freedawg has a child in this war, if not, no wonder he can blow so hard. Why not bring the troops home, put them on the docks, air terminals and borders to protect our country. After all, the majoority of the Iraq people want us out anyway.
By Kingaddies
January 24, 2007 07:55 AM | Link to this
President Bush sounds like he is begging for another chance for his plan to work. If his plan didnt work the 1st 6 yrs in office, then this plan will not work in the last 2 yrs of office. I can’t wait till his term ends. He needs to go another direction. President Bush needs to resign. I don’t believe anything he said. He never mention anything about New Orleans which is a domestic issue. It tells me alot about how he feels about the people bout New Orleans. I can assume that he will not provide any assistance to the people of New Orleans who are Americans.
By whoever
January 24, 2007 08:06 AM | Link to this
kingaddies And what would you have liked him to say about New Orleans? So you feel, simply because he did not mention New Orleans and the people of New Orleans in the state of the union, that he somehow doesn’t care about them….and let me guess…he didnt say anything about the people of New Orleans because they’re black….you’re a moron. The people of this country are more concerned with the war in Iraq and terrorists than they are with the city of New Orleans…sorry, but it’s true. Kingaddies if New Orleans is so great…why don’t you find a nice home down there and move. I’m sure there are plenty of homes available.
By C
January 24, 2007 08:08 AM | Link to this
Hey Freedawg,
Listen to talk radio much? Jesus….
By Mrs. Godzilla
January 24, 2007 08:11 AM | Link to this
It was the ultimate lame duck SOTU.
Nothing new, nothing we can believe in. I feel so sorry for Mr. Bush and his family. He is the poster child for “The Peter Principle”
By Techie
January 24, 2007 08:18 AM | Link to this
Mike,
Stick to drawing pictures.
By robert
January 24, 2007 08:26 AM | Link to this
Assistance to New Orleans? Give me a break. The only area of New Orleans that isnt being rebuilt are the same places people are always looking for a free ride. Nothing is easy in life unless your an uncle tom living on the welfare dime and other comunity handouts.And you must be da kingadees.Get up off your lazy arse and build your american dream .That is what makes this country great.
By Lu
January 24, 2007 08:35 AM | Link to this
Freedawg, I love you, very well said!!! Luckovich, you suck, you just don’t get it!!
By Jesus
January 24, 2007 08:49 AM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By New Life Church
January 24, 2007 08:52 AM | Link to this
Whoever, you sound like you are about 20 years old, why aren’t you in Iraq?
By LMAO
January 24, 2007 09:01 AM | Link to this
What we needed was a chickenhawk surge.
Gather up all the millions of chickenhawks, shave their heads, give them a uniform, then fly them to Iraq.
21,500 troops. Ha. what a joke. We want to win right? Lets give them a million chickenhawks. A real mans surge. Just think! They may let you ride in a Hummer!
Don’t worry, we won’t put you in harms way. You chickenhawks sure won’t be were the action is. You will fix meals, take out the trash clean up and stuff. The brave ones carry the guns.
You can be the ‘brave’ soldier that puts the mashed potatoes on the plate. There may even be a medal for that!
By Road Scholar
January 24, 2007 09:09 AM | Link to this
Has anyone read “State of Denial”? Or is everyone looking for the quick fix that talk radio provides? The book is based on facts! No one has refutted its contents! (except for air heads from both parties too lazy to do meaningful research) The war was based on trumped up WMD, uranium sales, etc. and look at what has happened since then…total mismanagement by those only interested in their politics..Bush, Cheney, and then there’s Rumsfeld. What a control freak! reconstruction personnel selected by their politics..not their experience and abilities! No overal strategy for reconstruction. Do some reading, consider what the other side says and question once an awhile the reasons things happen. I’m not one to cut and run due to the void which will be filled by Iran and Syria… but better management and the truth might help you in your reasoning!
By Wednesday
January 24, 2007 09:29 AM | Link to this
FREEDAWG FOR PRESIDENT. I like the way that guy thinks. Mike L. - I have always hated your cartoons.
By HERBIE BEAMISH
January 24, 2007 09:36 AM | Link to this
WHY HAVE THERE NOT BEEN ANY ATTACKS HERE SINCE 911 ??? COULD IT BE THAT THEY KNOW IT WOULD GALVANIZE AMERICA??? ARE THEY THAT SMART?? HMMMM ??
By Cameron
January 24, 2007 09:37 AM | Link to this
Since when did Luckovich start writing? Your words are worth less than your drawings. If my house burns down I do not get federal funds. If my house floods I do not get federal funds. Why is it that the government has to pick up the tab on this? Those “crummy FEMA trailer” are better than nothing.
By Marsha
January 24, 2007 09:41 AM | Link to this
I agree with Michael. President Bush is doing the best he can. Before last night, I was ready for the war to be over, but now I realize we have to fight for our CONTINUED freedom. Also, I am SICK of Democrats and Republicans trying to see who has the smartest answers. We are all AMERICANS and we need to stand together!
By Eleanor
January 24, 2007 09:42 AM | Link to this
I love it when Bush loyalists blame all of his failures on liberals. They are stubbornly refusing to accept ANY responsibility for any ill-fated missteps over the past six years.
No one is saying that the Democrats have all the answers. What we ARE saying is that the Republican President and Congress have created problems where there were none; and then responded to real problems in a way that only amplifies them.
You’d think this GOP selective amnesia would be over now. I call it the GOP version of “cut and run.”
And since Republican senators now agree with Mike, maybe he isn’t far from the Truth after all.
By Marsha
January 24, 2007 09:43 AM | Link to this
Yes, we do need a leader like God! But, since so many other people do not recognize that, I praise God for giving us a leader like President Bush to fight for our freedom!
By Marsha
January 24, 2007 09:45 AM | Link to this
What are the lies! Spell it out to me! People, are you going to sit back and admit to failure? NO, We have to fight to win and maintain our FREEDOM!
By Marsha
January 24, 2007 09:48 AM | Link to this
Well said Cameron! And what about all the people that are flooding Atlanta to get away from N.O. I am sorry for those who are still there, living in trailers, but at least they are living for their hometown and waiting until there is the manpower to rebuild. For those of you who disagree with me or Cameron, why don’t you go there and help rebuild N.O.
By whoever
January 24, 2007 09:49 AM | Link to this
NEW LIFE CHURCH…Im actually 28, and in case you didnt know, the United States has what’s called a ‘volunteer armed forces’ meaning that one must volunteer their services….and I did not choose to sign on the dotted line.
and how about you NEW LIFE CHURCH..what branch of the military did you serve in?
By Marsha
January 24, 2007 09:49 AM | Link to this
Right Michael! He isn’t a conservative! He is fighting for our Country and that takes GUTS! And that is extremely liberal in my mind!
By Marsha
January 24, 2007 09:52 AM | Link to this
AMEN Freedawg! GOD BLESS AMERICA!
By getalife
January 24, 2007 09:55 AM | Link to this
Well said Mike.
The Dems will help New Orleans and we heard from a real American last night.
“If he does, we will join him. If he does not, we will be showing him the way
w is a lame duck, cheney will resign soon and things are getting better thanks to the Dems.
By New Life Church
January 24, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this
whoever, again, why aren’t you in Iraq?
Simple question. They need 26 year olds.
By Marsha
January 24, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
AMEN! Well said, Robert!
By ALERT
January 24, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
SOCKPUPPET ALERT
By Don
January 24, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
why am i not surprised lefty cartoon boy can’t be bothered to use capital letters? come on mikey, the ee cummings thing has been done to death and it doesn’t make you look like a serious thinker. we know you have a shift key since you type question marks. are you trying to be cool or just lazy? come on, you have all day to come up with one crappy unfunny leftist cartoon, surely you have enough energy left to use the shift key.
By Dee
January 24, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this
I am blown away by some of these responses!! Did anyone actually listen to the speech last night? Did anyone feel enlightened with new information after that hour?
Economy is roaring??? The middle class in the United States is slowly disappearing! The top 1% is getting richer and the rest of the nation is getting poorer! If you don’t believe that, just look at the severance packages that CEO’s from companies like Home Depot and Delta get, compared to how many American’s are without Health Insurance!
Speaking of which, if I heard him correctly, I believe Bush said last night that he was going to Not Tax the first $7,500 income of a family of four to help pay for Health Insurance. (Actually he said no ‘income’ on the first $7,500 income, but then everyone’s used to his verbal blunders, so maybe it wasn’t caught!) Does this president even know what a private health insurance policy costs???
My sister and husband are self employed, so no group insurance policy. For their family of four they pay $500 PER MONTH for their coverage! That’s $6,000 PER YEAR!!! At a rate of, let’s say, 20% tax for individuals on the lower end of the pay scale, that would be a tax savings of $1,500 per year. I guess the president feels if he can save them $1,500, they should be able to come up with the additional $4,500 without a problem!!!
Maybe Unemployment appears lower because many, many Americans unemployment benefits have run out, so they’re no longer in the system as “Unemployed”!
Better Education??? Maybe other states have done as Georgia has done, and redistricted the Statistics for the SAT’s, making it appear as though we’ve done better, when in all actuality we just eliminated the areas where the scores were below average!!! Putting us in that highly respectible spot of number 48th in the country, rather than the 49th we held last year!
And I have a question regarding Immigration: He said we want “No Animosity, and No Amnesty”. What exactly does that mean? We won’t hate and will be polite as we through them out? (I wonder how many Mexicans bush has working on his farm in Texas?)
Proud Democrat and looking forward to a change in office! Just like in Corporate America where companies change their management staff every few years for a fresh set of eyes and ideas - I’m looking forward to the same thing for the c
By whoever
January 24, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this
NEW LIFE CHURCH…for the second time, I did not sign up for the VOLUNTEER ARMY. Just like the brave men and women who chose to sign up and serve our country, it was a choice…
What branch of armed services did you serve in? or are you some old fart pacifist? If all you wanna do is keep asking the same questions, then eventually people will question your mental capacity. what else ya got?
NEW LIFE CHURCH? why arent you in Iraq?
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
Still waiting on a Democrat for an alternative plan…
Oh and for all you Dems that said it was a mistake to go to Iraq in the first place… Don’t forget over 95% of your beloved party agreed it was the thing to do as well. They read the same intel reports and believed as did nearly everyone else in the world.
By whoever
January 24, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
NEW LIFE CHURCH….can you read…I said I was 28, not 26….now i think i have a pretty good idea why youre not in Iraq…did you have a tough time reading as a child….letters, shapes, and numbers confuse ya.
By Joe
January 24, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
I could care less about wellfare freeloaders in New Orleans. Go look at the communities that have rebuilt without my tax dollars. If those idiots in those fema trailors would get off their behinds they could do the same…
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
A scenario: for independants, greenies, dems, reps and anyone else out there. If we cut and run as the Dems suggest let’s think about a scenario, Iraq becomes Afghanistan in two years controlled by Al Q. and islamic radicals. Most military people, dems, and everyone agrees this will happen if we cut and run. Two and half years later America is attacked by Al Q. or islamic radicals trained in Iraq with a plan built in Iraq. In two years from now a Dem president is in office. After the attacks on our country two and half years from now who will be blamed for cutting an running in Iraq?
By Peter
January 24, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
Marsha - So, it was YOUR god who told Duh-bya to bomb Iraq. (I was wondering where that came from.) We could do with less of that s**t. Duh-bya has been making this up, you need to find a legitimate place of worship.
By Dee
January 24, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
One more thing - a question to the person who wrote the first comment - regarding Katrina. You said Bush didn’t cause the hurricane and he tried to get everyone to leave the area. If you were in that same situation, and you did leave the area, only to find your home, your neighborhood, your job all gone - totally destroyed - no place to return to - and it look exactly the same over a year later - and you had no where specifically to go - what would you do? The public isn’t condemning Bush for just the loss of lives for those who stayed there - which by the way - many, many, many of those who did stay stayed because they had no way to leave! They had no cars and there weren’t enough ‘buses’ as you suggested, to vacate the millions that live in that area! Bush is being criticized because he hasn’t come up with the funds or the manpower to help rebuild the area so those that did leave have somewhere to return to!!! And please don’t say his hands are tied, because he certainly has come up with the funds to support this ridiculous war!!!!!!!!! It was said recently that less than 6 months of war funding would have been more than enough money to rebuild all of the New Orleans area! Shame on Bush for thinking it’s better to play “God” in someone else’s country, rather than repair his own!!! (And please, don’t write back saying he’s doing it because of 9-11!!! I’m so sick of hearing that! Iraq did not, in any way, cause 9-11! Do they have terrorists? Yes. Was Sadam a bad man? Yes. Did Iraq specifically cause any of the terrorists to come here and cause 9-11? NO!!! That man is still in Afganistan alive and well. (But I guess Afganistan doesn’t have as much control of the world’s oil as Iraq does.)
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
to all of our unemployed in the country looking for work… If you are so desperately seeking work why not head to New Orleans… There is a lot of work to do there.
Oh I no, you are too good to do that kind of work.
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
the president as a very democratic immigration plan… you might want to support it as your dems in congress certainly do
By LMAO
January 24, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
Take it easy on whoever, he’s scared.
By Capt
January 24, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this
Hey Moron, Have you seen the tape of the planes flying into the WTC….just wondering.
By whoever
January 24, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this
LMAO…Scared of what? a bunch of democrats who hide behind the anonymity of a screen name and tough words…yeah you got me all figured out dont ya. F*** off!
By Dusty
January 24, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this
Luckovich,who has sketched thousands of cartoons insulting the President of the USA, now foolishly thinks he is a politician.
As Techie posted to Lucko..”Stick to drawing pictures.” Yes, and do it for alJazeera where they are more suitable.
By Dee
January 24, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this
Brooksdawgs - what makes you think that if we cut and run we will be attacked in 2-1/2 years? That part of the world has been controlled by Al Q. and islamic radicals for centuries!!!
If we’re doing such a terrific job over there, why were there two different bombings in Bagdad the day before yesterday, killing 75 people?????
Oh I forgot, we’re sending another 21,000 over there to help that situation because the already thousands and thousands of men and women that are there now can’t seem to do it!
A friend of mine, whose husband is in the military, was married a year and a half ago. They just gave birth to their first child less than one month ago. Guess what? The husband was deployed to Iraq again FOR THE THIRD TIME!!!!! Maybe the military should just start stamping the military’s paperwork when they return after their deployment ‘STILL ALIVE, SO YOU’RE GOING BACK”!!!
I truly do not feel we are in Iraq for the reasons a lot of people think! It’s not to protect our Freedom! It’s to get control of the world’s oil and to pump money into the pockets of the civilian companies that are hosting many, many things in Iraq that the American Public thinks are being done by the military. (Purchase the DVD Iraq for Sale. It’s only $10 and it’s a real eye opener. Haliburton is the many company there, and gee, doesn’t Cheney hold some of the controlling interest in Haliburton? Funny how that happened!) Wake up America! It has nothing to do with our Freedom!
By Dee
January 24, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
Hey Brooksdawg - Who’s going to pay all those people you’re sending to New Orleans? And where should they live while they’re there working?
Remember … NO MONEY!!! It’s all going to Iraq!
By Seriously
January 24, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
Your scenario just doesn’t hold water sockpuppet. As long as we have the largest most modern military base right smack dab in the middle of Iraq, as we will, we will be able to fight exactly the type of operations we need to. A quick strike force, enhanced by incredible technology. Terrorist operations in that area would be squashed before they got off the ground.
This was the strategy of our military build up. It makes sense. Then this Iraq debacle.
We cannot afford another Iraq anytime soon and our equipment is wearing out.
BTW, whats the itemization on the Iraq war going to look like? Do you people realize what the staggering cost is? Then to complain about high taxes is lunacy.
By Rogers Park Rob
January 24, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this
Hey Mike, Do you remeber this powerful statement, “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.” The poeple in New Orleans sooner or later need to help themselves. Or at least the local government needs to take the lead. It’s not the Fed Gov job let along President Bush’s…
Also, how come Bush’s ears are bigger than Obamma’s in your cartoons? Are you afraid he might track you down at a campaign event and scold you. Wimp!
By getalife
January 24, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this
Lots of failed Americans here spewing their filth.
New Orleans is a major city in the United States of America.
Baghdad is a hell hole city in Iraq where they blow up Americans.
Iraqi welfare is pathetic, try to support your country losers.
By Peter
January 24, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Just an observation of “whoever” (in lowercase) complaining about Lucko’s lack of capitol letters and boasting about his position (while hiding behind an anonymous screen name). The double standard is alive and well!
Expect he’ll call me a moron next.
By getalife
January 24, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
so by supporting the a bunch of dead-asses who dont want to work to rebuild, they want the government to rebuild for them is better than supporting the men and women of our armed forces fighting not only in Iraq, but around the globe….is that what youre saying?
Just like Mr. Jim Jones said “keep drinking the kool-aide, everything will be alright”
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
Okay Dee again you should read my post and comprehend it… It is a scenario… doesn’t mean it will happen but what if it did… your post leads me to believe that you think it wouldn’t happen… By the way you didn’t answer my question at the end of the post… Is that because if the scenario were to happen I bet you would blame Bush… Your response is exactly what I expected for a liberal… Oh, by the way I never said we were doing a good job over there My post implied that we need to FINISH the job over there. If you want my opinion we need to send more troops than 21,000… We need to send a 100,000 more and win in Iraq and show Al Q. and islamic radicals that we are serious about this war. For centuries they have not been about killing America and our way of life. They brought the fight to us, you and I both have to stand up and say we like are way of life and no matter what you do we will fight. Dee and Anti Bush supporters If we were attacked tomorrow on a grand scale with terrorist trained and funded in and through Iraq what would your response be. Cut and Run we surrender.
Now let’s move on to the oil… If we wanted to control the oil we would already be doing it… We don’t need their oil, we have more oil if the dems would just agree to let us go get it. If we wanted to oil that bad we could just nuke the place and get it over with… The oil wouldn’t be harmed.
Oh and Dee a family member of mine has been in Afghanistan and Iraq since this all started and has been deployed four times. She is very happy to be there and feels she is saving future generations of Americans. Her only problem with the whole thing is that she feels we are being to easy on everyone. Her opinion is to stop political correctness and put the full force of the American military right in their face. As she stated if we do this they will have nowhere to run.
By whoever
January 24, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
Nah Peter, you’re not a moron. More like a jackass.
By New Life Church
January 24, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
To tell you the truth whoever, I’m not in Iraq for the same reason you are not in Iraq. I”M SCARED!! Thats right. I’m a coward, just like you. But one big difference, I don’t cheer on the war from the cozy comforts of home. Its not Georgia vs Florida ya know.
I mean what do you expect, I belong to the same church as Rev Haggard. Just like 30 million other Republicans, we scare easy. Brooksdawg and freedawg are rather emotional too. I wonder if they are members…..They seem scared too.
Lets hide together. and PRAY.
By Play that funky music whiteboy
January 24, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
Brooksdawg - here’s the “plan” you’ve been asking for from a Democrat.
1. Alert Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey and Israel that we are setting a date for complete withdrawal. Invite Iran, Syria and Turkey to work with us on a sensible transition plan for a stable Iraq. (If any of you just though “you left Israel out”, please stop reading this now - I’m amazed you can turn on a computer, let alone find this blog.) Right now, none of those nations listed are doing anything of value to help the situation - they are actually in some cases fomenting it further. Why? Not because they want an unstable Iraq with an imminent civil war, none of them want that spilling over their borders and destablizing the entire region. They know that we are there to provide the only stable influence, that our President is hopelessly stubborn, that they can settle old scores and keep the insanity going and we (the US) won’t let it get too far. They have no incentive. 2. The Bush doctrine of insisting on the “same map of Iraq” as before we invaded is ridiculous. Split the country in three Kurds, Sunni, and Shia nations. If the Shia want to be Iran, let them. Pay to relocate whoever wants to move from their current residency to one of the new “nations”. It would be more cost effective than this war has been, and this is tribal. No one is going to move unless they have to. 3. Setup diplomatic relations with all three new “nations” and make targeted investments in each to promote economic dependency on the US and the “free world”. If they start gaining economic strength… people that can afford to eat at McDonalds don’t blow each other up. (The McDonalds theory of detente - Thank you Thom Friedman - which basically says that any two nations that have a McDonalds franchise have not been at war with one another. It’s true. Not since McD’s was founded.) 4. Send tons of X-box video games, TV Sets, and develop an MTV channel for each country. This will insure that the teenagers of the nations will become lazy, fat and apathetic just like ours and won’t be a threat to anyone but a bag of Doritos.Brooksdawg, Freedawg, whoever - I’ll be waiting.
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
Seriously, I hope you were not referring to me as sockpuppet… If so again another Dem who only heard what they wanted to… As part of my scenario the first thing that happens is we cut and run… That means we are longer there to stop the attacks, so does your post mean we have to stay there forever doing flyovers, keeping our special forces there and not fighting back unless they suddenly are about to strike us. Are you serious?
By whoever
January 24, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
NEW LIFE CHURCH.. I wouldnt pray with you in your unholy church if my life depended upon it. Good day.
Via con dios!
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
Okay PTFMWB, that was an idea, I know that you have ideas but I haven’t heard that from your party… Again my point is made the party has no ideas…
Only one problem with your idea, you didn’t address Al Q. in Iraq.
By Seriously
January 24, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this
“That means we are longer there to stop the attacks, so does your post mean we have to stay there forever doing flyovers, keeping our special forces there and not fighting back unless they suddenly are about to strike us. Are you serious?”
Are you kidding me? As if occupation works? Brent Scowcroft said it best, “you break it you fix it”
How in the hell are we supposed to afford this plan of containment of yours. The “Mission Accomplished” banner didn’t work.
Yes, a heavy presence in the area is our only choice. We can’t just nuke our way out of it, and at this point could be the only way to get the kind of victory you seem to want.
If you think the American public wants our government to blow up the middle east, with or with out nukes you are crazy.
How do we pay for it?
By Freedawg
January 24, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
Dee, The whole Haliburton thing is a non issue that has been dead for at least 3 years. Cheney gives his earning from Haliburton to charitable organizantions, so get off the greed thing. Polethebear, If you are watching your 401K statement you would be feeling the boom, and if you are not in the market you should hit yourself in the head with a tack hammer. Why don’t you feel it? Probably becasue you keep waiting for CBS to tell you that unemployment is below 5% which basically means anyone who wants a job can get one and people in the market like myself are making a killing.
As for minimum wage consider this scenario. A man owns a small company where he pays workers minimum wage as new employees but give raises based on performance. Those that don’t get raise are generally fired for non performance anyway becasue most people don’t work minimum wage jobs for long. So this business owner has 8 employees ranging in wages from a salaried manager at $40K, and 7 other hourly employees ranging in salries from $10 to min wage. Lets say his average hourly employee makes $8 an hour, and lets assume that business owners employee wages are about $110K per year including the management employee. When the bottom salries raise in business so do genrally all of them to varying degrees, so a 14% increase at the bottom would then affect other wages as well. So let settle on 11% overall increase in wages for the business owner to pay so that’s a yearly increase of $12K. Given those circumstances most business owners would just layoff the minimum wage earner, creating unemployement. Some will say just increase the prices but that is a very naive argument because raising prices impact supply and demand. Meaning demand will decrease as prices increase and would result in more lost revenue, which in turn results in less benefits for the employees.
As for New Orleans, I do feel sorry for them but what is Biloxi doing to get back on their feet. They don’t seem to be having the same issues and don’t have their hands out nearly as much either.
By Don
January 24, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
hey peter, i guess the concept of irony is lost on you. perhaps your brain has been addled by too many luckovich cartoons that beat you over the head with their sophomoric point.
By Play that funky music whiteboy
January 24, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
Did I stop the discussion?
By E B
January 24, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
Hmmmm,
There is a lot of anger, misinformation and just raw ignorance on this blog. As a nation we should look at the facts plan and simple. We were promised Osama’s head. He lives. We were told we are going to war because there are WMD’s. They lied. We were told we have won the war. It’s still called a war last I checked and we are still sending troops over there. There will, no doubt, be more American soldiers killed. A war can’t be won if it is not over. Some individuals are making unGodly amounts of money from this war. These individuals are quick to say “God bless America” God is certainly blessing them. By saying God bless America, We kinda devalue God’s purpose, will and presence. It’s become a moniker that shows the American people’s arrogance when it comes to God. God has no more or no less love for the American people than any other people. It’s foolish to believe Americans have some kind of God ownership. If you truly believe in God you would realize that. Unfortunately our politicians continue to say that after ever speech and interview and it grates my nerves. Well I have said enough for now.
God bless us all
By Freedawg
January 24, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
White boy, love your name and your humor. About your plan, not bad except how are you going to get Iraq divided when the present government there is totally against it? Plus why are the Shia going to respect borders set up by American influence when they don’t even respect their own country men’s lives? This is a difficult issue but on the premise of bringing business and investment and that creating peace and stability in the long run I totally agree. I think its just a matter of means to that end, and you believe the violent factions who would encourage their own children to committ suicide just to kill those who don’t share their views can be negotiated with. I don’t think that is possible with out control and a demonstration of that control and we still have some work to do on that.
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
Seriously, the nuke thing was if we wanted to oil as DEE suggested which is just plain silly… please read, I know it’s hard but it can be done…
We do not need a continued heavy presence in Iraq. How do you propose we fund your suggested heavy presence in Iraq? Heavy presence and occupation are one in the same my fellow American. Long term it will be much more expensive that ending the conflict in the short term not by nuking them but by increased training of Iraqi troops and ridding the country of the radicals. Once we do that it is up to Iraqis to form their new way of life and we are back at home with a very lite presence left in Iraq.
By getalife
January 24, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
For the wanker stealing my name:
GFYPOS!
By Play that funky music whiteboy
January 24, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
Brooksdawg - Al Qaeda in Iraq, Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, Al Qaeda in Indonesia - Al Qaeda on buses in London and trains in Spain. What does our standing Army being in Iraq have to do with that? Are there some elements there attacking our men and women now? Sure. Is your postulation that these elements will remain in Iraq and attack the sovereign nations (Shia, Sunni and Kurd?) Well, then, it’s their problem and sensible people don’t like getting blown up do they? They will handle it on their own.
Now, if your postulation is that if we leave Iraq, Al Qaeda will then attack the US homeland - that leads first to a question, then a position. Question: So you are of the mind that our military is currently serving a “punching bag” role. Our men and women are there in Iraq to be targets, so Al Qaeda won’t hit Northlake Mall? I think just buy writing this question out, the invalidity of it is apparent.
Position, the US must deal with terrorism on two fronts and both should be pushed with equal vigor. First, seek out the terrorists with our partners and intelligence networks and bring them to justice (like we have done) along with securing our nation against future attacks (debates can rage about how best to do that). Second, we apply extreme pressure on the governments in the Arab world to reform. It is there that the hopelessness that spawns the terrorists is being perpetuated. When you are eating dirt and rocks, you have nothing to live for and nothing to lose. Work hard to give these people hope. That will cut off both the “branch” and the “root”.
You see, these questions and solutions are not easy, but the easy “blow them up, yeah, kill them all” just doesn’t seem to be working.
By bon scott
January 24, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
Man, at a time like this, it’s GREAT to be stationed in a corner of the world (populated with a LOT of American expatriates) who spent their afernoon and evening gagging on their beers as King Bush repeated the same load of horse dung he’s projected for the past 3 years. It takes a unique form of idiocy to engineer all those blunders simultaneusky.! It’s hard work to pull off that kind of stunt.
I mean, REALLY HARD.
By Peter
January 24, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
Heavens, Don. You are typing without caps too, just like Lucko. (“whoever” will think less of you for that.) I admit to making a rather shallow observation, but most of the content supporting Duh-bya isn’t worthy.
By Peter
January 24, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
CHICKENHAWK “whoever” (10:16 a.m.) - believe me it is not “Just like the brave men and women who chose to sign up and serve our country … ”
(I did my four years’ active duty 1969-1973.)
By Play that funky music whiteboy
January 24, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this
Freedawg - your points are cogent, and on that I can delve deeper. The administration that we setup is impotent in Iraq, they can’t get a quorum together to do anything. Leave it in place in Baghdad. The Kurds, they would break away tomorrow, they already have a shadow government, they aren’t the problem. That one happens easy. It’s sitting down with the Shia and Sunni factions along with Iran and Syria… hey, we stay out of it. Our position is, “what we thought should happen isn’t working, you should self govern, figure out what you want - we’ll help with logistics and security up until our ‘date’.” After that you are on your own.
See Freedawg, our “control” is what is allowing these people to do the things they are to each other. They can inflict damage on one another without fear of escalating reprisal. Why? Because when something happens, we run in to address it and “lock it down”. Then the other side does their little thing and it goes on and on. Fear of huge retaliation or reprisal would stop a lot of the stuff going on now.
Take us out of the picture and they either get along, or get it on. We make them sovereign and solvent, and they will be inclined to get along.
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this
white boy your idea is fine with problems as I stated and freedawg stated but all ideas pretty much have problems.
E B, Osama does still live and that really ticks me off… The world was lied to about WMD’s but Saddam had an opportunity to show the world he wasn’t doing it… The first Iraq war is over this is a whole other ballgame
By Jeff
January 24, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
I thiught that you were a “cartoonist” not a political reporter! Oh thats right you know it all!!!
By Seriously
January 24, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
“Once we do that it is up to Iraqis to form their new way of life and we are back at home with a very lite presence left in Iraq.”
So, what do we do with that fancy new military base? Give it to the Iraqi’s?
This new way of life you are talking about for the Iraqi’s, does it have a “and they lived happily ever after” banner to go with it?
By Play that funky music whiteboy
January 24, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this
Peter - thank you for your service during a truly difficult period. If anyone can speak to a historical time with no easy answers, it’s guys like you.
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
white boy, us leaving Iraq doesn’t mean Al Q. will attack us, what it does mean is that they will have better means to do so. There is a large concentration of Al Q. fighters in Iraq backed by their leadership. Their leadership has already proved they can overtake a tribal weak nation in turmoil, example Afghan. The blowing them up option in Afghan worked pretty well… pretty much we only missed the two most important leaders there… I think the blowing them up option has proved in Afghan that it works pretty well… Get rid of the fighters and put all focus on hunting down the leaders
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
white boy, thanks for being a democrat with ideas… It’s nice to see there are some of you out there
By Play that funky music whiteboy
January 24, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
brooksdawg - did I not address the issues you had? Are you really of the mind that it’s either the Sunni Triangle or the Grady Curve?
Also, just because I’m not an elected official doesn’t mean I’m not a Democrat - I toe no line, I’m no one’s dittohead, unfortunately a shortage I see in both professed Dems and Republicans.
By whoever
January 24, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this
Peter, and there’s the word Ive been waiting all morning to see…chickenhawk. With all due respect, 1969 is a long time ago. Your service during those 4 years is appreciated, but you can’t blame anyone who doesn’t sign up for the military now and call them fearful…are you saying that upon graduation of high school, every 18 year old boy and girl should serve 4 years in the military?
By Charles Aulino
January 24, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
Your comments about the failed GW Bush presidency are right on. The American people need to learn from this mistake — that’s what you get when you elect a frat boy to the White House.
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
Other than the airport there is no fancy military base in Iraq other than tents…
After the nation if free of islamic radical attacks they will determine if it happily ever after or not
By getalife
January 24, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
This war is just starting
Got to secure that oil people so you can drive those SUV’s.
By Play that funky music whiteboy
January 24, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this
The Taliban is gaining traction again in Afghanistan. Nothing to do with Al Qaeda, just a normal backlash to change. Anyone remember when Russia started electing true communists again? After people got very hungry and were unemployed.
Blowing them up - not working again. I’m off for the day, going to go talk to Pelosi about my ideas - let all of you know how it goes later.
By Seriously
January 24, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
We went into Afghanistan as a lean mean fighting machine that mobilized quickly and did the job WITHOUT blowing up the whole country. We then lost our way in Iraq. Our resources have been so depleted the Taliban have now made a comeback.
I guess we need to occupy Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somolia, Syria, Iran, and many others to contain the “threat.”
By Peter
January 24, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
“whoever” - That’s C H I C K E N H A W K ! ! ! This is not a hypothetical exercise. You either put your money where your mouth is or shut up. To sit back and send somebody else to Iraq to fight them “there” so you don’t have to deal with it (yet support the QUAGMIRE) is immoral. (My two sons will not be making any sacrifices for this administration.)
I stand with a Veteran of the Spanish Civil War and WWII in anti-war demonstrations. (You might regard him as too old to have an opinion.)
You, sir, are out of your league.
By E B
January 24, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
Brookdawg yes Osama does live, and we all should remember that and the dishonor it brings to all those lives lost we (suppositly) hold in high honor. It was not Saddam’s duty to show what he had or didn’t have. The intellegence existed to disprove there were WMD’s in Iraq. We didn’t want to hear all that. You just go ahead and believe this is a whole new ballgame, if it makes you feel better. It just ain’t true.
By brooksdawgs
January 24, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
Nobody suggested blowing up the whole country and we haven’t we are simply saying get rid of the guys causing all the trouble
Of course the Taliban is attempting to make a comeback… However with the limited number of American troops left in Afghan, NATO and Afghan’s they now have the means to repel them.
By whoever
January 24, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
I cant remember, did Clinton serve in the miltary?
By whoever
January 24, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
from the oh so wise words of Peter the Great, “You either put your money where your mouth is or shut up”….so now only those who served in the military are allowed to have an opinion and voice there views on things. Very democratic there Peter. Perhaps that’s how things are done in Petoria, but not here.
Via con Dios.
By whoever
January 24, 2007 01:07 PM | Link to this
Peter, So you’re telling me that in Jan. of ‘09 when the newly elected president takes the oath of office, that your 2 sons will be ready to sign the dotted line and make the sacrifice. I always thought the military was designed to protect and defend the freedoms of the country, simply not whomever resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Silly me.
By Peter
January 24, 2007 01:09 PM | Link to this
“whoever” - You may try to frame the issue to suit you but you are wasting your time and mine. (My post was offered for others.)
By Liberals are stupid!
January 24, 2007 01:11 PM | Link to this
Although I have not been able to read every single comment in this blog, it pains me to see the liberal supporters on this blog mirror their leaders. I say this because they run strictly on emotion and not FACTS.
Has your party come up with a true plan besides cut and run? Where in the heck are they getting their six month plan? Please enlighten me… Also, I know Bush promised that New Orleans would be rebuilt but how can it be rebuilt when its sorry inhabitants scattered across the Southeast, given free board, provided jobs, and increasing crime in areas? They are having to use illegals because nobody has the pride in NO to rebuild it, even with excellent hourly wages to do so. What has the local government done? Huh? Where is the pride you sorry excuse for a city? It would be more productive to flood the city and turn it into a swamp. An ecosystem is way more productive than the filth that populates that heidinistic society.
I, being a middle class citizen, am also reaping the benefits of the economy during Bush’s leadership. I guess none of you libs have 401K’s because you are depending on the government to support you huh? Waiting on a minimum wage price hike? The dems have you tricked there as well, the only people enjoying this potential price hike are teens and illegal immigrants. It’s just lip service your politicians are giving to make them look caring about you.
I’m saving every penny right now because I know once a democrat takes the Presidency (Please God don’t let it be Hillary), I will be taxed out the yen yang due to their socialistic agenda: “wealth is bad and we must distribute it among the masses.” Of course it’s never pointed out that the wealthy minority pays the MAJORITY OF TAXES. Finally, I bet none of you dem supporters have any idea of what Hillary’s platform is do you? Truthfully, I don’t either because she’s done absolutely NOTHING as a Senator besides mask what she really is.
By Liberals are stupid!
January 24, 2007 01:17 PM | Link to this
Didn’t your party also vote for the war or “vote for the war before I voted against it” as Kerry so eloquently put it. Why don’t dems take the hit deploying troops for an “unjust” war? I pray that we don’t get into a major conflict, any American lost in battle is horrible but what if we lost the same amount of lives lost in WWII? Cut and run!!!!!!
By Play that funky music whiteboy
January 24, 2007 01:24 PM | Link to this
Liberals are stupid - “heidinistic”? I wondered what happened to that little pig tailed blonde from the Alps, now I know she is “selling it” done on Bourbon Street. Thanks for the update, moron.
By Seriously
January 24, 2007 01:41 PM | Link to this
Thanks Republicans! The Bridge to No Where, Iraq war, and Medicare part D are all going to make your taxes go down! Mission Accomplished. You Republicans are so smart.
How do you do it?
By Play that funky music whiteboy
January 24, 2007 01:53 PM | Link to this
Please “Liberals are stupid!” use the term Middle income when referring to yourself. Any reference to “class” should not be used by you or even thought of by you - look to your masters Hannity and Limbaugh for guidance on this matter. They will show you that “class” has no place in political discourse. Your swampland theory on New Orleans is not only baseless but hints of both prejudice and a superiority complex.
Congrats to you on your 401k, I guess if you are doing well than the hell with the rest of the state/country/hemisphere/world? Is this Neil Boortz?
By Liberals are Stupid!
January 24, 2007 01:54 PM | Link to this
Ok “play that funky music whiteboy” and “Seriously” where’s your party’s plan? THAT’S WHAT I THOUGHT!!!! Prediction: Hillary will preach change like her husband but be non-specific about what changes she plans. You morons will fall for it hook, line and sinker…. Duh, the guberment thinks for me. I don’t let facts cloud my emotions. Um hmm, I like them french fried potaters….