Mike Luckovich

By George

January 12, 2007 08:04 AM | Link to this

I Love it!!!

Dubya likes playing with real soldiers not toy ones though.

By LuckoDull

January 12, 2007 08:05 AM | Link to this

Just think, last week the Iranians were the ones playing with us:

“I can’t tell you whether or not that happened with the orders of the Iranian government,” Abizaid said in response to a senator’s question. “But I can tell you that terrorists in northeastern Iraq used the Iranian northwestern border to move back and forth across the border.”

And despite the view of the world that Mikey has, the United States is not playing games with the terrorists anymore.

It must be an awful week for you America haters, first we settle some old scores in Somalia, shooting terrorist fish in a barrel and now we are taking the gloves off in Iraq.

No more being nice to Iran/ Syria, no more pulling up short in Sadr City, no more holding our fire in Baghdad.

No more stalemate.

It’s time to seize the weapons, kill the terrorists, interdict the supply lines, muzzle the press, win the war.

Deal the cards Mr. Bush.

By Shawny

January 12, 2007 08:19 AM | Link to this

Aw, geez Louise.

Now cartoon boy, I gave you some great cartoon ideas yesterday and this is the best you can come up with? I do like the look on the dog’s face and his “remarks”, though. He is probably thinking, “come on boss, don’t play around with that crazy guy, open up a real can of whoop-arse and get it right the first time, this time”.

Anyway, since this is another cartoon that sucks, here is one that does not:

http://www.townhall.com/funnies/cartoonist/ChipBok/2007/01/1

Love that stock option button on the iPhone.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 12, 2007 08:24 AM | Link to this

VERRRRRY SCARRRRY!

But shouldn’t he have his bathtub boats too?

By Joe

January 12, 2007 08:28 AM | Link to this

Muzzle the press? What exactly is it Bush keeps telling us we’re fighting for? Guess you forgot about the Constitution.

“America haters”, come on, even Bush won’t use that simplistic BS anymore. Invade Iran, with what? He’s having to move troops from Afghanistan, where the REAL war on terror was and still is. And by the way, where the Taliban is once again on the rise.

Remember Osama? That’s the person who actually DID have something to do with 9/11. We’ve brought him to justice right?

And you say go after Iran. Guess you didn’t hear that of the 21,000 Bush is moving to Iraq, only 9,000 are actually new. The rest are made up of extended and redeployed troops. You must not know anyone who has had to leave their family to support this ill conceived and incompetently run mess.

By Brian Curtis

January 12, 2007 08:29 AM | Link to this

Traitor Bush at least has an excuse for his denial of reality: he’s too sheltered and too immature to grasp it.

How about his supporters, allegedly grown-up adults? What’s THEIR excuse for favoring fantasy over reality?

Ahh, I love America… which is why I hate what the Bush crowd is doing to it.

By LuckoDull

January 12, 2007 08:32 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON — The Senate’s new Democratic leaders, the fragility of their thin majority on display for the first time, were set back Thursday when nine Democrats joined with Republicans in support of stricter House-passed rules on lawmakers’ pet projects. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., was forced to delay a final vote on a measure he opposes after losing 51-46 a parliamentary attempt to kill it.

Harry Reid still having to obstruct the Senate agenda even though he’s now in charge of it, my goodness, what a clown.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By EW

January 12, 2007 08:32 AM | Link to this

The good voters of New Orleans are waking up to the conclusion that you get what you pay for. They looked at Nagins response and reaction during Katrina and decided this is who they wanted to lead their fair city post Katrina. Oh well, some lessons are learned the hard way, it’s easier to bash and blame than it is to lead. New Orleans look to your west and learn a few things from how Colorado recently reacted to their natural disaster. They rolled up their sleeves and went to work, they didn’t bash or blame or expect on-going hand outs. Buyers beware, you get what you pay for. Now…tell me, how ‘yall enjoying your Chocolate City?

By candide

January 12, 2007 08:40 AM | Link to this

Even with fancy private schools, Yale, Harvard Business School, lots of family money and connections — you cannot make a silk purse out of the sow’s ear called Dubya.

By w00t

January 12, 2007 08:42 AM | Link to this

Uh… what… A hurricane and a HUGE flood are COMPLETELY different than a snow storm.

A snow storm doesn’t wash away houses and businesses, or cause people to evacuate. A snow storm doesn’t kill thousands of people. A Snow storm may last a day or two, but with Hurricane Katrina, it has been going on for well over a year. You go live in either place and see which one you prefer.

What is wrong with you? Stop being so self-centered.

By Edwin Williams

January 12, 2007 08:53 AM | Link to this

I guess it was wrong to go to war with Germany and Japan during World War II as well. I also guess we never should have had the American Revolution or the North should have just rolled over and let the South seceede. You liberals are such a bunch of appeasing simpletons it’s past being amusing.

By EW

January 12, 2007 08:54 AM | Link to this

w00t…but it’s a Chocolate City..so everything should be okay, right? That is all that mattered, correct?

By Shawny

January 12, 2007 08:55 AM | Link to this

True, but the hurricane didn’t kill thousands either, and neither did the flood. It was total incompetance at the local level, having an evacuation plan and failing to even consider executing it. Days notice to prepare, fair warning, and …. nothing. Didn’t call for additional buses, heck, didn’t even use the ones he had. That incompetance is still on display today.

By @@

January 12, 2007 09:15 AM | Link to this

So what games do you like to play ml? Charades? Category: Movie…

Iran Condemns Consulate Raid, Wants Officials Freed

In a statement, the U.S. military made no direct reference to Iranians but said only that six “individuals” had been arrested suspected of being “closely tied to activities targeting Iraqi and coalition forces.”

I see six, Iran says five.

Maybe #6 will be “Ahm-a-dino-job”.

Extinct.

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2007 09:16 AM | Link to this

Candide might be onto something about the Harvard and Yale educations.

This guy has been to both plus Stanford and he thinks there really were Klingons fighting star battles. Oh, and he’s a member of the US Congress. Guess which party?

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2007 09:18 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G,

You have your politicians mixed up. This is the one with toy boats.

By Shawny

January 12, 2007 09:29 AM | Link to this

Love that one about Kerry.

How about that earmark reform…where only 3 or so dems voted against it. Kennedy, Boxer, Reid, Durbin, Clinton, et al voted for it. Guess who didn’t? Our buddy Kerry.

By Shawny

January 12, 2007 09:30 AM | Link to this

Love that one about Kerry.

How about that earmark reform…where only 3 or so dems voted against it. Kennedy, Boxer, Reid, Durbin, Clinton, et al voted for it. Guess who didn’t? Our buddy Kerry.

By Eric

January 12, 2007 09:45 AM | Link to this

maybe if luckodull and shawny were the generals on the ground the war would’ve been won already. ship ‘em out.

By mark

January 12, 2007 09:55 AM | Link to this

Edwin Williams… you’re an idiot. Trying to compare the nightmare in Iraq to WWII and the American Revolution? Wake up you and the rest of your W supporting nuts. It’s not just liberals against this war now… about 61% of Americans are against it… does that make 61% of Americans liberal? I don’t think so. I’m just surprised you didn’t trot out the “Freedom isn’t free” nugget. That’s always a winner. Edwin, stop reading your Karl Rove talking points and start reading a newspaper or magazine.

By Mark

January 12, 2007 09:57 AM | Link to this

Eric, why don’t you sign up to fight if you’re so gung-ho on the war? They’d be delighted to have you. Or do you have “other priorities” besides fighting for your country, like your hero draft-dodging Dick Chaney during Vietnam?

By Shawny

January 12, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Eric, you are exactly right. I was in charge, we would have won already, but you would be bey-atching about the bright lights and sand turned into glass over the mideast.

By Shawny

January 12, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Just kidding, of course.

By getalife

January 12, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

The first stike on Iran, leads to a stand off with the Kurds

By Lord Help Us

January 12, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

BD and RW-(the obfuscator),

You never gave a STRAIGHT answer yesterday to the questions of:

WHY DID WE ALLOW THE IRAQI GOV’T TO DESIGNATE SAFE HAVENS IN BAGHDAD? (Don’t you at least think this ranks as one of the dumbest counter insurgency tactics imaginable and likely the root of many of our soldiers deaths?)

AND

WHY ARE OUR SOLDIERS DYING TO HELP SOLIDIFY AN IRAQI GOV’T ALIGNED WITH MOQTADA AL SADR (Yes, RW, I know the Mahdi Army is Sadr’s - that’s exactly the issue, you twit!)

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Would any of you libs that have been telling us all about this great and ethical new Congress that has been getting tons of legislation done, when not watching football, explain something to me please?

American Samoa was exempted from any increase to the minimum wage. One of the largest employers in American Samoa is the Del Monte tuna packing plant which employs a bunch of minimum wage workers. Del Monte is headquartered in Nancy Pelosi’s district in San Francisco. Her husband holds about $17 million in Del Monte stock. Do you see anything fishy about this?

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Yea Eric, just because Mark is too stupid to realize he’s on your side is no reason for you not to boogie to Baghdad and pick up this fight.

By Truthman

January 12, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Hey Luckodull,

“Muzzle the press!” Yep, that’s exactly what Stalin did and Castro does!!

Obviously, you are not a patriot! You are anti-American and want the terrorists to win.

Why don’t you enlist and go over and win Bush’s war all by yourself.

A democracy is not a democracy without a free and unfettered press!!

Sorry that you don’t like the message. Of course, you could go to Condi’s house and watch “her guys” on FAUX NEWS!!

Muzzle the press, indeed. What a dunce!!

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

LHU,

I don’t have time to listen to your incessant squawking today, the golf course will be beckoning soon, so I’ll give it one more shot and then you’re dismissed.

There were areas we didn’t have the manpower to exploit in Baghdad and Maliki didn’t have the will to go after certain groups thinking they could be helpful in the long run. Primarily that included Sadr and the Mahdi Army.

Those things didn’t work so the tactics and manpower levels are being changed, including Maliki claiming he will no longer allow or tolerate the militias INCLUDING SADR, DUMBASS. The future is ahead of us, you parrots can squawk all you want about the past, but it doesn’t mean much until you use it to inform your fellow citizens BEFORE the next conflict.

By Shawny

January 12, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

If this is true:

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070112-120720-2734r.htm

then I have just lost ALL respect for the woman. Clean it up indeed! Keep it real!

What is next, pass rules limiting earmarks or lobbying efforts, unless in San Francisco?

By Brian Curtis

January 12, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

I guess it was wrong to go to war with Germany and Japan during World War II as well.

Riiight, Edwin; because all wars are just, and all wars are exactly the same in all respects. Now, WHO was complaining about the Vietnam comparisons being invalid because every situation is different…?

You neocon drones really need to agree on your talking points to avoid obvious logical contradictions that just make you look foolish.

By Brian Curtis

January 12, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

RW: Of course I see a problem with that. The same problem we always have in Congress: blatant favoritism and exceptions for big business and corporate cronies.

Did you think that problem would disappear just because the openly crazy corrupt slimeballs got replaced with slightly saner corrupt slimeballs?

By Lord Help Us

January 12, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Better RW, you are still obfuscating, but that is a step in the right direction.

Now, one more…

Can you help me reconcile the logical chasm that exists between Bush’s statements about how devastating a ‘loss’ in Iraq will be with his threats to Maliki that the US involvement is not open ended and the Iraqi gov’t must step up.

Logic dictates that these positions are contradictory.

BTW: I’m headed to the links myself and will be hitting into you if you are as slow on the course as you are intellectually…

By Brian Curtis

January 12, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Gosh, Shawny… don’t tell me you’ve lost all the respect you formerly had for Nancy Pelosi! What a monumental, staggering loss!

And here I was, thinking you were so respectful and fairminded toward her, up until this very moment. Surely you’re not like those evil, obstructionist Republicans whining about their loss at the polls….

By getalife

January 12, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

More on the strike on Iran:

By Lord Help Us

January 12, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Specific omissions, such as Somoa need to be looked at with skepticism. Too much legislation gets emasculated by special interests and I will be disappointed if that is the case.

That being said, the impact to a global behemoth like Del Monte of a minimum wage hike in a state of less than 200,000 population is a bit of a stretch…

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

LHU,

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that you couldn’t afford the tips where I’m playing, but enjoy your game.

Now try to keep up. President Bush said losing in Iraq would be devastating and also told Maliki that our help to him is not open ended. You’ve concluded that, that means we would tuck tail and leave, but it could also mean that we open a can of whupass.

By Truthman

January 12, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Easy question to ask your neo-con associates:

“Is W smarter than you, and, if so, why?

See what they say? Much fun!!

By Midori

January 12, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

Explosion rips through US embassy in Athens

Oh Great. who are we going to bomb in retaliation? Canada? Mexico? Easter Island?

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

This might be the first time you and I have ever almost agreed on something. No, I didn’t expect the blatant favoritism to go away, but I’m surprised that after making bold claims that it would be ended that every bill that’s been passed in the first week is loaded with special interests and exemptions.

It’s not like they didn’t campaign on getting rid of this very sort of thing. I look forward to CNN, the NYT, WAPO, etc. making this a major issue. When do you think that might happen?

By Lord Help Us

January 12, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

RW, as much as it pains me to say this…there may be hope for you.

I havn’t seen anything suggesting that military tactics would be substantially escalated.

Other than having the ability to go into areas that were previously designated as safe havens and having the troop levels necessary to ‘clear and hold’ instead of ‘clear and leave,’ (how long is conveniently left out of the details), I don’t see anything else…

Maybe you can fill us in on what ‘opening a can of whupass’ would entail???

By Truthman

January 12, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Can we please get back to Bush’s “Mission Acomplished” War!!

By Truthman

January 12, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Barbara Boxer is correct. Condi has no children to offer as cannon fodder for her Sugar Daddy’s War!

I just love the NY Post and its selective outrage!!

By RW (the oravaginal)

January 12, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Cartoon Idea: Clear and hold will work, but that’s not what’s confronting the USA now in Iraq. The problem is that securing baghdad will force the shia/sunni diplomats (oxymoron?) to air out their civil war in public verbally, and we will hear their mutual grievances. Because we are human we will sympathize with one side or the other and we will then start fighting amoungst ourselves over who is the good iraqi and who is the bad iraqi, and we will become the jihad, and start suicide blogging all over the internet. That’s when I smash my HP for good.

By Lord Help Us

January 12, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Wow, are you Bushbots aware of Negroponte’s assessment of the ‘War on Terror?’:

Iraq is at a violent and “precarious juncture,” while al-Qaeda is significantly ESPANDING its global reach, effectively immune to the loss of leaders in battle, Director of National Intelligence John D. Negroponte told Congress yesterday. He also warned that the Taliban is mounting a vigorous insurgency in Afghanistan, that Pakistan has become a safe haven for top terrorists and that Iran’s growing regional power is threatening Middle East stability.

Yup, Bush is THE MAN!!! Aren’t you Bushbots PROUD???

Does this mean we’re SAFER?

By Truthman

January 12, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

OopS! I digressed!

By Buy Danish

January 12, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

LHU,

You were asking how to define victory? Here, this is on topic to today’s idiotic cartoon too.

Victory in Iraq cannot come until the United States makes it clear to Iran – even more than Syria, since the Syrians will take their lead from Tehran – that we will no longer tolerate their intervention in Iraqi affairs. The president has now said this. And the U.S. military is beginning to back it up.

Here’s a fascinating teaser:

Remember the August 1978 arson against the Ahwaz cinema in Iran, when hundreds of Iranian moviegoers perished in flames. At the time, Iran’s “revolutionaries,” led by Ayatollah Khomeini, blamed the Shah for mercilessly killing his countrymen. Only two decades later did the revolutionaries themselves admit to what many had suspected for years: that they themselves had planned and carried out the arson attack, in order to ignite the match of revolution.

Just hours after the president’s speech on Wednesday night, U.S. forces in Iraq seized six Iranians from a safe house in Irbil, in northern Iraq. U.S. commanders said they had convincing evidence that the men were involved in preparing terrorist attacks.

By Lord Help Us

January 12, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

BD,

Will you still consider it a ‘victory’ if, as John Negroponte says Al qaeda is EXPANDING its global reach, Pakistan is providing safe haven for terrorist, the Taliban is mounting an insurgency in Afghanistan and Iran influence in the regions continues to grow?

Maybe you should go back to just spouting your bumper sticker slogans…

By Paul

January 12, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

RW- the original 10:15

Well, it’s been just over an hour since you asked uberlibs @ company for an explanation, let alone a justification, for Speaker Pelosi’s exempting American Samoa from the min wage hike (you neglected to mention the campaign funds she’s received from Del Monte).

Since, as I rather expected, there would be no response, please allow me to attempt one, in the best uberlib tradition as exemplified by past comments on this forum:

Ahem. It’s Bush’s fault!!!! And wait until we capture the White House in ‘08, then we’ll really set things right for everyone ‘cause we hate big corporations and we care for the people!!!

Howzzat?

By w00t

January 12, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

This should make all you neocon’s crazy.

“Iraq’s massive oil reserves may be thrown open for large-scale exploitation by Western oil companies - which could end up grabbing up to 75% of the beleaguered nation’s oil profits - under a law seen coming before the Iraqi parliament within days, the Independent reported on its Web site Monday.”

The war was about 9/11, yellowcake, Saddam, crazy Muslims, spreading Democracy, etc etc etc.

We all know the real reason though. Oil, and the Military Industrial Complex.

By ed lorenzo

January 12, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

ITS SANSKRIT TO ME

“Ms Rice, would you kindly explain the meaning of the word ‘surge’ proposed by the President when referring to his new Iraq strategy?”

“As you probably know, war unfolds in unpredictable stages of animosity not devoid of realistic irregularities that can or can not affect predicable aims within the context of declared intentions, accidental eventualities or simple manifestations of ‘unum conflictis sapiem’, as the generals in the Roman Empire would say. By consequence, Surge is in its most acceptable form a reaction and perhaps a result of highly assumable patterns in the pursuit of pre-established objectives, needs and juts plain excuses”

“Thank you. Now, what is the meaning of the “way forward to victory’ sentence that the president uses often?”

“It is really clear to me. The president is simply stating the objectivization within presumed parameters that oppose the so called McFerrin deviations in the presentation of a complex inference, without consequential effects but always within the limits of decisive engagement of both achievable aims, motion-inspired fulcrums of action and the always reliable wrapping of old BS. Know what I mean?”

“Crystal, Ms Rice”

By Truthman

January 12, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

Don’t forget, it’s also Cheney’s fault, and Wolfowitz’s and Rice’s and especially Rummy’s fault American is in the “Mess-o-potamia!!”

Don’t put all the blame on the Chimperor!!

By Paul

January 12, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

w00t

As I dislike asking personal questions in the context of a policy discussion, please take the pronoun “you” not as personal, but as addressed to all.

If the war was really about oil, do you drive a car/SUV/truck? Heat your home? Work in a manufacturing facility? Have you written your representatives demanding meaningful action regarding America’s energy (non)policy? Did you howl when gas prices rose? Have you protested attempts to raise the gas tax to fund mass transit? Do you circle parking lots or wait for several minutes to get a spot ten yards closer to the front of the store, rather than walk ten yards?

If the war was really about oil (ignoring for a moment the embargo (rest of you, pls stop laughing - the UN did the best it could), and as we were able to buy all the petroleum products we wanted, well, Venezuela would have made a much easier target.

By Buy Danish

January 12, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

LHU (congenital complainer)

What’s your solution, genius?

Let’s not forget that your favorite newspaper, WaPo, along with its sister company The New York Times, publishes leaked documents on the Swift program and other national security programs.

Thanks for the help.

By Recruiting Poster

January 12, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

SAN ANTONIO - An Air Force staff sergeant who posed nude for Playboy magazine has been relieved of her duties while the military investigates, officials said Thursday.

In February’s issue, hitting newsstands this week, Michelle Manhart is photographed in uniform yelling and holding weapons under the headline “Tough Love.” The following pages show her partially clothed, wearing her dog tags while working out, as well as completely nude.

Damn, my sarge was an ugly, hairy, gorilla lookin mofo. This is gonna make a hell of a recruiting poster.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 12, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

RW,

Clever deflection.

Unfortunately, Mr. Bush’s boats come with Nukes.

By Midori

January 12, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

W00t,

sane people saw this “war” for what it really is from the beginning.

By Local Recruiter

January 12, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

HEY!

WHERE IS EVERYBODY? THE OFFICE IS EMPTY.

SO I’LL SET UP THE APPOINTMENTS FOR YOU.

SHAWNY 2pm

DUSTY 3pm

PAUL 4pm

RW 5pm

LUCKODULL Try the Indian Guides, even we don’t want you.

BUY DANISH COME AT 7 DRESS SEXY

Boot Camp is just waiting for you.

PUT UP OR SHUT UP

By Lord Help Us

January 12, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

BD,

One last shot and I’m outta here.

That is a QUOTE from JOHN NEGROPONTE testifying before Congress (remember oversight?) yesterday and has nothing to do with the WAPO or NYT!!

Are you afraid of the truth?

If not, address the question instead of looking like a stooge.

By Paul

January 12, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Local Recruiter (or whoever you are)

That’s a rather weak tactic some here are fond of invoking - “if you support the Iraq action, let alone the war against jihadists, then why don’t you go over there, huh, huh, huh?”

If you must keep using that ploy, please be consistent and use parallel examples for other situations. Here are a few to get you started:

“If you support energy self sufficiency, then why don’t you sell your car and walk everywhere?”

“If you don’t like the deficit, then why don’t you multiply your income tax bill by ten times and send it in?”

“If you support income redistribution, why don’t you send all your money to the feds?”

“If you think America’s care of the poor is tragic, why don’t you work 40 hours a week in a halfway house?”

Those statements are almost as silly as the one that started it all.

By Dubya

January 12, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Iraq mission accomplished. Now onward to Ethiopia! Jail to the Chief & God Bless Murcuh.

By getalife

January 12, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

Local Recruiter,

You will not see the wingnuts do anything but run their ignorant mouths and be wrong about everything.

They will not back up what they spew. Cowards, pure and simple.

By Midori

January 12, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

that’s a huge leap cheering on death, murder, devastation and destruction by trying to compare it to energy conservation, etc.

once you’re dead, you’re dead.

there are many ways to conserve energy, etc.

and cheering on someone to conserve energy, help the poor, etc. does not result in death. neither does engaging in said activities.

Recruiter — I think you’re funny. That appt. schedule made me laugh out loud :)

By Dusty

January 12, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Well, poets are in town so I present my poetic efforts to this blog. No autographs will be given today, thank you.

OLD VETERANS

The ancient veteran fades to dust

His battle flag torn with spots of rust.

His heart is broken. His face is sad.

His beloved country, no longer glad.

The call to arms is spit upon.

Called to fight means “cut’n’run”.

Our enemies rate the most respect

As even our cemeteries are suspect.

Our veterans never failed their Pledge of Allegiance.

It was not a call for every grievance.

They hear so sadly the torturous knell

Of loyalty turned into a cowardly swell.

Our enemies rate the most respect

As even our cemeteries are now suspect.

By Midori

January 12, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Odd that no one has commented on my link about the American Embassy in Greece being bombed.

So much for “no attacks on American soil since 9/11”.

I know, I know - it’s in Greece.

However, Embassies ARE considered as such.

By Paul

January 12, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

Midori

Let me rephrase this. The construct of an argument invoking the “if you like it/don’t like it then you should take over/do it yourself” is a simple diversion. The specific topic (war, auto safety, environment, etc) does not matter.

It is also not a matter of hypocrisy. One does not need to go to Brazil and assist native populations in resisting encroachment of their habitat by the government and business interests in order to be opposed to such injustice. And that is an example that does involve death and destruction.

By Ralph

January 12, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

The neocons Repugs: our bridge to the 11th Century.

By Paul

January 12, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

Midori -

Now we have Greek Jihadists?!!?

By Dusty

January 12, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I’m glad you know that our embassies are considered “American soil”.

I wasn’t even sure you knew that the USA was American soil. You call our citizens “scum” so much of the time.

By @@

January 12, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Midori:

That attack on the embassy in Greece was carried out by a group (about 25 members) who have been around for a long time. They’ve diminished in numbers over time.

And guess what?

They’re freaking socialists. Anti-American, Anti-Military, & Anti-Capitalism.

I guess we need to keep a closer eye on all you leftists here in the good ol’ U.S.A.

By RW (the oravaginal)

January 12, 2007 01:02 PM | Link to this

@@, Do you think that Greek Terrorists have a “dont ask, dont tell” policy?

By @@

January 12, 2007 01:02 PM | Link to this

Has anybody noticed how that “democratically elected” Hugo, the one the American leftists were cheering on, is slowly and methodically restricting all sorts of personal freedoms down there in Venezuela.

Press, telecommunications, free and open markets.

Hell, the guy’s a freakin’ dictator and that was his intention all along. All he needed was some useful tools.

But hey. They’ve got free medical down there. Yippeeeeee!

By Buy Danish

January 12, 2007 01:03 PM | Link to this

LHU,

I realize that dumba$$. Negroponte is saying we live in a dangerous world and face threats from a ruthless enemy.

What do you suggest we do about it, other than suck your thumb and whine?

By Brian Curtis

January 12, 2007 01:04 PM | Link to this

Paul: Then why do so many conservatives try to order liberals, “If you hate America so much, why don’t you leave?”

For that matter, how about their other favorite tactic—“If you’re so critical of the Iraq policy, what’s YOUR 100% guaranteed-perfect solution to fix it? Because if you don’t have one, shut up!”

Same exact tactics, Paul… but the neocons and their loyal lapdogs have been using them a lot longer than we have on this forum.

By RW (the oravaginal)

January 12, 2007 01:05 PM | Link to this

@@, do you think Buy Danish has a “Dont Read, This Stinks” comment policy about her own bloggings?

By RW (the oravaginal)

January 12, 2007 01:08 PM | Link to this

Hey, @@, do you think RW has a “dont ask, I’m a moron” policy?

By Buy Danish

January 12, 2007 01:09 PM | Link to this

Local Recuiter,

I hate to repeat posts, but since you are arrogant and uninformed (amazingly the two tend to go hand in hand) I have to do it.

Maxium age to enlist in the military without prior service.

Translation: We’re not all a bunch of juvenile Athens A*******hats like you.

By RW (the oravaginal)

January 12, 2007 01:09 PM | Link to this

Will somebody please show Mr. Peabody into the library….

By Goldie

January 12, 2007 01:20 PM | Link to this

That dog Barney sure is smart!

By @@

January 12, 2007 01:22 PM | Link to this

Political Foreskin @ 1:05/1:08/1:09

Take it on the road. Preferably one that is restricted to use by 18 wheelers.

One of those 18 wheels is bound to make you a grease spot on the pavement.

Of course, you do a pretty good job of that all by yourself.

By Willie

January 12, 2007 01:26 PM | Link to this

Bad, bad President! No banana for you.

By Truthman

January 12, 2007 01:27 PM | Link to this

@@ ref. your 12:07 post.

Darn, you cracked the code! We on the left DO hate America and side with the trrists ALL THE TIME…Those poor, misguided victims of America’s Military/Industrial Complex.

Man, you are OUT there! To quote Ray Davies, “Paranoia, Big Destroya!!”

Boo!!

By Paul

January 12, 2007 01:36 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis

The tactics are similar - and do not further the discussion. On a positive note, it gives them something to fall back on when they run out of facts or arguments.

I haven’t heard your first example much - I understand it was quite popular during VietNam. The second - well, one difference is opposition leaders are always free to offer alternatives. When they don’t, then diehard defenders on this forum won’t, either. It wouldn’t have taken much for the Congressional staffers (some who’ve been around longer than Congressmen) to do an analysis (they speak with DoD reps regularly) and propose a “take and hold” shift without a troop increase. It’s a calculated decision - keep the pressure on the administration to decrease their influence. And it’s a sad decision - if they have ideas that could hasten an end to the conflict they should offer them. By not doing so, one could argue they decrease America’s chance of success and increase American and Iraqi civilian casualties. Did you get that, Midori?

By Shawny

January 12, 2007 01:38 PM | Link to this

There’s a red, under my bed…. and a little yellow man in my head…

By @@

January 12, 2007 01:39 PM | Link to this

Truthbeknown, I don’t have a 12:07 post.

I’ll let you stand corrected and alone.

By Local Recruiter

January 12, 2007 01:39 PM | Link to this

PAUL

YOU ARE PERFECT FOR THE MILITARY!

I’LL TRAIN YOU PERSONALLY

VERY PERSONALLY…..

By Paul

January 12, 2007 01:40 PM | Link to this

Still no justification of Pelosi’s exploiting American Samoa workers to increase the profitabililty of a large corporation located in her district?

And the difference between a Pelosi and a big business Republican is what, exactly? That the Republican admits it?

By Local Recruiter

January 12, 2007 01:44 PM | Link to this

BUY DANISH

IF YOU ARE TOOOO OLD,

PERHAPS YOU COULD START A VIGILANTE GROUP LIKE THOSE BUCKAROOS AT THE MEXICAN BORDER>

BUY’S BRIGADE, YOU GET TO WEAR MATCHING OUTFITS WITH ALL YOUR WAR WHORE BUDDIES>

I PROMISE YOU THERE IS A PLACE FOR YOU IN THIS WAR IF YOU REALLY REALLY WANT ONE

By Paul

January 12, 2007 01:46 PM | Link to this

Local Recruiter

I won’t pose in Playboy. No way. Not even in your dreams.

By Raymond

January 12, 2007 01:48 PM | Link to this

BD. Re your 7.08 PM of 07/11, “Bill, Abe, Bob,”etc. makes no sense as usual. All are superior to your lowly station in life, as are others here, and quite capable of constantly revealing you for the misfitted scumbag that is your very essence. Those folks speak for themselves and require no assistance from me. Little person, I rarely read your rabid repetitious ravings or examine your daily mental droppings, so consider yourself hugely fortunate to have caught a tiny tad of my precious attention. I spend no time with uneducated, unlearned, unmannered, inconversant, ill-bred, lowbrow Plebian commoners such as yourself. Such valueless social inferiors are deserving of the fate in which you dwell. You are an insect and must never forget that fact. Ever shall it be. Albeit, you and your tawdry ilk do try to seep like sewage into our culture, thereby rupturing the basic fabric of our social order. But to no avail.Suggest that you limit yourself to those activities in which you and your fellow travelers excel - picking thru dumpsters. You really must learn to remain in your proper place: a roach-infested sweathog forever clad in the sackcloth that befits you. Write me again next month.

By Midori

January 12, 2007 01:51 PM | Link to this

Paul,

the only thing I get is your constant whining.

And I mean constant.

“Why isn’t congress in session?”

WAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

“I thought the Democrats were going to end the war”!!!

WAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!

The Dems have been in power in Congress for what, nearly 2 weeks? Opposed to 12 years (?) under GOP control?

Now, all of a sudden, Congress is supposed to function at break neck speed, with no glitches, no mistakes, to satisfy YOU?

Yeah, Paul: I get it.

You’re just another whiny a$$ wingnut chickenhawk, trying to pass yourself off as something you’re not.

I just watched for the inevitable. When you first showed up here, you appeared reasonable. But, like a snake shedding its skin, the real Paul finally emerged.

Cry me a river.

By Paul

January 12, 2007 01:53 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Re: that 1:48 - see what I mean about what happens when a mind can’t formulate an argument?

By Midori

January 12, 2007 01:53 PM | Link to this

{{{{{And the difference between a Pelosi and a big business Republican is what, exactly? That the Republican admits it?}}}}}}}

yeah, right - when he’s under oath.

By Paul

January 12, 2007 02:04 PM | Link to this

Midori

You strike me as one of those people who just can’t bear to say anything negative about any Democrat or positive about any Republican.

If you choose to define “whining” as pointing out hyprocicy, especially when it involves the same conduct Democrats excoriate Republicans for, then so be it.

Many Americans voted Democratic in the last election so the war would come to a quick end. It won’t happen - and I’ve outlined my belief in the political calculation Democratic leadership took.

Democrats promised to reverse the Republican mismanagement of Congress by hard work and a proper five-day workweek. Two weeks in and it’s off for football. Then speaker’s day. Then retreats.

My frustration is the parties shifted power but nothing much changed (absent some easily-passed, much needed legislation, riddled with broken promises - min wage, ethics, etc). I can’t understand why you’re not upset, either.

By Midori

January 12, 2007 02:07 PM | Link to this

America Samoa And Federal Wage Hike

Republican leadership aides are accusing the Democrats of using a double standard by imposing the higher minimum wage on the Northern Mariana Islands while continuing to exempt American Samoa say American media reports reprinted in the Saipan Tribune today.

Under a Democrat-backed legislation that is now before the House of Representatives, employers on the Northern Mariana Islands would have to pay workers the federal minimum wage. American Samoa and the tuna industry that dominates its economy would, on the other hand, remain free to pay wages less than half the bill’s new mandatory minimum.

Democrats have long tried to pull the Northern Marianas under the umbrella of U.S. labor law, accusing the island’s government and its industry leaders of coddling sweatshops and turning a blind eye to forced abortions and indentured servitude.

In a statement in response today, Faleomavaega said “despite recent claims made by the Washington Post which suggest that American Samoa is exempt from the federal minimum wage process, I wish to set the record straight.” He says since 1956, the Wage and Hour Division of the US Department of Labor has conducted Special Industry Committees every two years in American Samoa to determine minimum wage increases. “While these Industry Committees have been phased out in other US Territories due to their more diversified economies, American Samoa continues to be a single industry economy. In fact, more than 80% of our private sector economy is dependent either directly, or indirectly, on two U.S. tuna processors, Chicken of the Sea and StarKist. As has been repeatedly stated at our Special Industry Committees, a decrease in production or departure of one or both of the two canneries in American Samoa could devastate the local economy resulting in massive layoffs and insurmountable financial difficulties,” the Congressman says.

“For this very reason, I do not support efforts to apply mainland minimums to American Samoa at this time. The truth is the global tuna industry is so competitive that it is no longer possible for the federal government to demand mainland minimum wage rates for American Samoa without causing the collapse of our economy and making us welfare wards of the federal government.

By Phillip B Tursky

January 12, 2007 02:10 PM | Link to this

You are as insane a chimpy!

By Midori

January 12, 2007 02:10 PM | Link to this

To add to my previous post, from the Department of Labor — who, by the way set wages and is reference in my previous response:

“The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), applies generally to employment within American Samoa as it does to employment within the United States. The minimum wage rates for American Samoa are set by a special industry committee (29 U.S.C. 205, 29 C.F.R. Part 511) appointed by the U.S. Department of Labor, as required by the Act. The rates are set for particular industries, not for an employee’s particular occupation. The rates are minimum rates (29 U.S.C. 206(a)(3)); an employer may choose to pay an employee at a rate higher than the rate(s) for its industry.

“The Act contains a number of additional requirements, including the payment of premium rates to certain covered employees who work more than 40 hours in a workweek (29 U.S.C. 207), limitations on the employment of minors, and provisions relating to the Act’s coverage and exceptions to and exemptions from some of the Act’s general requirements.”

The way I’m reading the info, American Samoa is exempted from all minimum wage laws, not just the one the house passed. The North Mariana Islands were included in the bill in an effort to shutter sweatshops on the islands.

Now go find another “issue” to be “outraged” about.

I’m quite sure you have a list….

By @@

January 12, 2007 02:14 PM | Link to this

Ya’ know, what’s going on in this country isn’t all that different from what’s going on in Iraq.

It’s a war for power and resources.

Republicans are the enemy because the liberals want the resources, and the Democrats want to hand them out to their voters.

The Sunnis are fearful that they won’t get their share of the oil revenues. The Shiites want to rule after having been oppressed for so long by Sunni Saddam.

Hell, I think there’s already a Democracy in Iraq.

By Paul

January 12, 2007 02:16 PM | Link to this

Midori 2:07

Same basic argument conservative, “free-market” Republicans have used for years to block minimum wage increases. Now you support it? Del Monte, as a corporation, couldn’t absorb the wage hikes? Maybe subsidize a decent life for its workers through higher profits in other divisions?

Can’t Democratic leadership do or not do anything that would earn your ire?

By Paul

January 12, 2007 02:22 PM | Link to this

@@

Excellent! Just excellent!

If I may offer a rationale for why the President’s latest Iraq proposal just might work:

What’s the common denominator in politics? Money and Power. Maliki was “sharing” power with Sadr - had to to get to his position. Co-leadership doesn’t last long. Now Maliki has the threat of American loss of support - which translates to loss of power. So under the guise of “for Iraq” he just may lead strikes against Sadr to eliminate a rival and expand his power. Which leads to the second element - money. Still a lot of money to be made. Can’t acquire it if you’re not in power. Just look at the financial disclosure statements of some of our Congressment who weren’t millionaires when they first arrived.

By Dusty

January 12, 2007 02:25 PM | Link to this

Never have I read so much “hogwash”.

Liberals, you have a chance now in Congress to “do your stuff” and even present some ideas here.

But what do we get? The same old idiotic name calling, finger pointing, obscene remarks, straight out lies, personal invective at bloggers and stuff like what is written on box cars and rest room walls, not to mention the insults to the leaders of our country.

If this is the intellectual and ethical level of Democrats, this country is not in trouble because of the war. It is from insufferable, ignorant, anti-American liberals like most of those we see posting here.

I hope this blog has just picked up the drags of society, not the real essence of the Democratic Party. If not, we really are in trouble.

By Midori

January 12, 2007 02:26 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I don’t see anyone “blocking” anything.

You need to read the info I posted.

It’s apparent you didn’t.

I’m considering posting the truth to your ridiculous allegation about Congress being recessed in favor of a football game.

I’m considering it.

I can tell that no matter what info I provide, you are determined to stay stuck on stupid.

Plus, you need to do your own research.

We shall see.

I’ve got my own work to do here.

By Clementine

January 12, 2007 02:28 PM | Link to this

Midori-Even if a Republican only admitted their wrong doing under oath it would still be an improvement over Democrats. See Clinton, William Jefferson. Add impeachment to your search if you don’t know who that is.

Paul-As I understand it Pelosi has tossed her tuna on the table and begun to flip flop out of this one.

By Blackadder

January 12, 2007 02:32 PM | Link to this

What do you call a political leader who does whatever he pleases? A dictator. When there’s no meaningful internal opposition to his actions, he’s a durable one.

For those Americans who still doubt that the 2000 (and probably 2004) elections were a coup d’état carried out by a military-corporate junta of bandits, looters and mass murderers—OK, I get it, it’s hard to accept—the rabid cat is out of the bag. George W. Bush is a dictator.

What else can you call a leader who wages a wildly unpopular war and then escalates it after citizens have delivered a resounding and overwhelming no-confidence vote? Bush is a tyrant, and he’s every bit as deranged and dangerous as his father’s former employee, whom he sent to the gallows last week.

The Democrats? Useless, as usual. They’re planning to try to possibly pass a non-binding resolution, not even calling for a full-fledged pullout but merely asking pretty-please-with-sugar-on-top for Bush to not send another 20,000 to 40,000 troops. To a war, remember, that no one wants anymore. At all.

I don’t say this lightly: Bush is a dictator, albeit one mildly inconvenienced from time to time by remnants of the former opposition party. And we live in a dictatorship.

By Paul

January 12, 2007 02:34 PM | Link to this

Clementine

Never dreamed I’d see a liberal Democrat trot out the “we need to keep wages low so our company can compete” argument.

And football or not, the Democratic leadership defaulted to the Republican workweek. Pretty soon you won’t be able to tell the players without a scorecard (aarrrghhh, a sports metaphor).

By @@

January 12, 2007 02:35 PM | Link to this

Paul:

There are incentives for Maliki to cooperate this time around. Psychology plays a large part in a conflict.

Democracy as it unfolds or exists ain’t always pretty.

Have you read the latest analysis at Stratfor on the possibility for success with the surge?

Also, I’ve noticed that you listen to NPR. Did you happen to watch PBS last night? The documentary “Anti-semitism in the 21st Century” was interesting.

By @@

January 12, 2007 02:40 PM | Link to this

Oh, and Paul…if I might add, Chavez won votes by handing out free manure.

Quite a comparison, isn’t it?

By Paul

January 12, 2007 02:45 PM | Link to this

From yesterday’s Washington Times:

Democrats agreed yesterday that pay rates in Samoa should be raised and that the minimum wage should be uniform across all U.S. territories. But, they said, the working conditions in the Northern Mariana Islands are “screaming out” for immediate attention. The loophole pleases the tuna corporations that employ thousands of Samoans in canneries there at $3.26 an hour — an industry-specific rate set by the U.S. Department of Labor. They have lobbied Congress for years, arguing that imposing the federal minimum wage on Samoa would cripple the economy by driving the canneries to poor countries that don’t require a minimum wage. One of the biggest opponents of the U.S. minimum wage there is StarKist Tuna, which owns one of the two packing plants that together employ more than 5,000 Samoans, or nearly 75 percent of the island’s work force. The other plant belongs to California-based Chicken of the Sea. StarKist’s parent company, Del Monte Corp., is headquartered in San Francisco, which is represented by Mrs. Pelosi.

$3.26 an hour. Amazing. And pitiful. With friends like that in the new Congress, who needs enemies?

By Paul

January 12, 2007 02:49 PM | Link to this

@@

Today has been amusing. Your last post made me laugh out loud. Thanks!

I didn’t see the documentary last night but I’ll check for reruns. I’m glad PBS produced it.

I still haven’t cleard all the Stratfor analyses that came in while I was gone for the holidays. I did hear O’Reilly say that while he was off camera during his last interview with Pres Bush the Pres asked him where he got his intel analysis. O’Reilly said “Stratfor” and an aide was writing it all down. Too bad they weren’t clued in earlier.

By Peter

January 12, 2007 02:50 PM | Link to this

Which one is Jen and which Barb? (All those toy soldiers look alike.)

By Dusty

January 12, 2007 02:51 PM | Link to this

Blackadder,

Thanks for giving us the perfect example of liberal “hogwash”.

You claim our elected president is a dictator….. Absurd non-factual fantasy.

“Bush was elected by a legal system of bandits, looters and mass murders”……More psychosis.

“Bush is as deranged and dangerous as his father’s former employee”……Hallucinations from dementia.

‘Adder, you are snake poison to yourself. Do not dump it on us. Seek help.

By Truthman

January 12, 2007 02:59 PM | Link to this

@@, you are correct. I was referring to your 12:54 post.

Also, just at “rendering” really means “kidnapping” and “collateral damage” really means “dead civilians, W’s “surge” really means “Escalation!! An escalation by the name of “surge” does not smell any sweeter.

The media should refer to it as “An Escalation of George Bush’s Crusade in his Holy Land!!”

By Truthman

January 12, 2007 03:02 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah! “Sgt” Bill O’Reilly as a news source.

That proves the Chimperor is insane!!

By Buy Danish

January 12, 2007 03:05 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Yep, and Raymond at 1:48 is a liar. He is Abe, Clem, Bob, Bill, Jean and all the rest of the Friday nite bathtub crew.

They can change their names, but they can’t change their vocabulary or writing, um, “style”.

By Paul

January 12, 2007 03:07 PM | Link to this

@@

Do ya think happy hour started early for some?

By @@

January 12, 2007 03:10 PM | Link to this

Oh no Paul. You’ve linked Stratfor to O’Reilly. The leftists will have a hayday with that.

The thing I like about Stratfor is that it doesn’t paint the rosey picture. It gives you the facts as they unfold, along with some insightful analysis. Bits and pieces put together will give you a bigger picture.

You’ve just gotta have the patience to wait.

About the documentary on PBS. It’s getting some extreme responses from some extreme groups. It is, however, important to listen carefully, and pay attention to the names and origins of the people speaking. Sometimes, it’s difficult to read those letters at the bottom of the screen, but doing so will make you go Uh Huh!!!

By Blackadder

January 12, 2007 03:12 PM | Link to this

Dusty - don’t speak unless you are spoken to. I have no time for an insignificant piece of garbage such as you.

By Paul

January 12, 2007 03:12 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish at 3:05

Are you intimating some on this forum are schizophrenics?

By @@

January 12, 2007 03:13 PM | Link to this

Truthman:

Was it lonely out there?

Chirp…chirp…chirp…

By @@

January 12, 2007 03:16 PM | Link to this

Paul:

If the leftists could just find a happy hour somewhere within their lives, I’d be…well…happier than I already am.

By Blackadder

January 12, 2007 03:19 PM | Link to this

There is only one US Senator in support of Bush’s Iraq plan, and he’s just as bright as you might think.

Indeed, the lone lawmaker showing some sympathy was our very own Johnny Isakson, who muddied his defense with an extended metaphor about gambling. He said Bush’s speech Wednesday night made clear “this one is for all the marbles,” and he advised Iraqis to heed “Kenny Rogers’ old song, ‘You got to know when to hold ‘em and know when to fold ‘em.’ It’s time for them to deliver on the hand that they’ve dealt.”

Do you think he actually didn’t remember the second line of the chorus, or did it come to him halfway through and he had to wing it?

What a moron.

By Blackadder

January 12, 2007 03:22 PM | Link to this

One of the last rats to abandon the sinking, burning ship, Tony Blair is set to announce 2,600 of the British troops in Iraq are coming home, leaving just 4,100 that MoD officials say should be mostly home later this year.

Blair’s government — the few who haven’t resigned, anyway — continue to spit out rote lies like this one from current foreign secretary Margaret Beckett: “We are under way with a process of handover as the security situation on the ground improves.” But it’s over and everyone knows it; unlike in the United States, British military commanders who publicly call for withdrawal are not replaced with fresh sycophants.

Why is it that the entire world except for 26% of Americans get it?

By Truthman

January 12, 2007 03:26 PM | Link to this

@@

Nope. So you actually believe stuff “Sgt.” Bill O’Reilly spouts?

Cuckoo! Cuckoo!!

By @@

January 12, 2007 03:28 PM | Link to this

Blackadder:

I really liked “FUWus” address.

Riding in the Mothership, and he looked so proud to be at the helm.

Captain Kook of the USLeft Enterprise.

By @@

January 12, 2007 03:30 PM | Link to this

Oops! Here you go Blackadder.

FUWus address.

By @@

January 12, 2007 03:35 PM | Link to this

BlackUdderlyRidiculous:

I’ve only seen Friedman from Stratfor once on O’Reilly.

I have a subscription and they send me daily e-mails. Lots of daily e-mails. I get them as quickly as events unfold around the globe.

THE ENTIRE GLOBE. Not the little world you find yourself in.

By Blackadder

January 12, 2007 03:41 PM | Link to this

@@ - that was priceless. Thanks for the link. The The Dems are as worthless as the Republicans are immoral and stupid. Our only hope is if the Dems grow a pair and finally impeach the bastard who started this insane war.

By Blackadder

January 12, 2007 03:43 PM | Link to this

@@ - Didn’t take you long to spiral into the brainless pit of insults and pettiness. As I told Dusty - from now on speak only when you are spoken to. You are another piece of garbage for which I simply don’t have time for.

By Dusty

January 12, 2007 03:48 PM | Link to this

Blackadder,

You are the perfect answer to Paul’s question to BD asking if there are schizophrenics on the forum.

Nobody has to ask after reading your posts.

By Blackadder

January 12, 2007 03:50 PM | Link to this

That moron Bush and his people worked on the strategy for his Wednesday night speech for months according to today’s NY Times. It was a big flop according to the post-speech poll found on CNN Political Ticker:

“A new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll finds just a third of Americans (32%) support the president’s plan to send about 20,000 more troops to Iraq, while two-thirds oppose the plan (66%). 35% said Bush has a clear plan for Iraq, while 63% said he does not.”

The sane people of America have figured out that Bush is leading the country off a cliff. The rest are still clinging to that last plank hoping make it to dry land before they are drawn under the waves.

By Goldie

January 12, 2007 03:50 PM | Link to this

Midori— just to reveal even more of his true self, today ole Paul posts the drivel from the Washington Times… BA-WAAAAAAHHH! He’s another Moonie!

By @@

January 12, 2007 03:52 PM | Link to this

O.K. Blackadder, but since you addressed me at 3:43, I can expand on your 3:22.

The British Government has welcomed Mr Bush’s new strategy to send extra troops to Iraq.

Margaret Beckett, the British Foreign Minister, says the fresh approach by the US and the Iraqi Government’s support shows that both are determined to deal with the sectarian violence in Baghdad.

“We hope that this joint effort to resolve the security situation, which is undermining efforts to put other things right in Iraq, will indeed succeed,” she said.

Mrs Beckett also says that UK troops are successfully quelling violence in British controlled Basra and there is no intention “at the present time” to send more troops.

SUCCESSFULLY? SUCCESSFULLY?

Now let’s find out what the Iraqi troops are made of.

By Blackadder

January 12, 2007 03:52 PM | Link to this

Dusty - you don’t listen too well do you. Figures. That’s what I would expect from someone whose brain has been replaced by monkey sh1t

By Buy Danish

January 12, 2007 03:55 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I think Dusty just did a great job of answering your question.

In any case, there are many people who pop in here with “multiple-personalities” and multiple identities.

Many of them post under different names and then tell eachother what “intellectual giants” they are. It’s quite entertaining to watch.

By Blackadder

January 12, 2007 03:59 PM | Link to this

Have a nice weekend everybody - see you on Monday.

By Dusty

January 12, 2007 04:03 PM | Link to this

Blackadder,

The pleasure of your company is overestimated. Get your own blog and rant to yourself all day. This one is not yours.

By @@

January 12, 2007 04:05 PM | Link to this

You too Blackadder!

I’m an “everyone” aren’t I?

Man, I had a really “good little jab”, but I can hold it until a later time.

By LuckoDull

January 12, 2007 04:22 PM | Link to this

By Joe January 12, 2007 08:28 AM Muzzle the press? What exactly is it Bush keeps telling us we’re fighting for? Guess you forgot about the Constitution.

This would be the same press that if they couldn’t find a scratch on a dog’s a-ss to blame on American soldiers and make into the second coming of the Holocaust, the would fake some photos of it.

P-iss on them.

Let them disclose some secret government defense program in China, then we’ll find out what a “free” press is.

Traitors.

By Lord Help Us January 12, 2007 11:14 AM Wow, are you Bushbots aware of Negroponte’s assessment of the ‘War on Terror?’:

LHU: I believe you’ve graduated into a full blown dimwit when you use the justification for increased US efforts in the war on terror so that you can whine about increased US efforts in the war on terror.

If Negroponte is right then so is Bush, dullard.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Paul

January 12, 2007 04:28 PM | Link to this

Goldie at 3:50

Well, then how about the Saipan Tribune:

Link: http://www.saipantribune.com/newsstory.aspx?newsID=64701&cat=1

Or, gasp, the original source, The Associate Press?

Wait, wait, excuse me. I realized it’s not the story or the facts that are important. It’s the source!!! Silly me!!!

By LuckoDull

January 12, 2007 04:52 PM | Link to this

Legislating corruption in the first 100 hours, nice, real nice:

House Republicans yesterday declared “something fishy” about the major tuna company in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco district being exempted from the minimum-wage increase that Democrats approved this week. “I am shocked,” said Rep. Eric Cantor, Virginia Republican and his party’s chief deputy whip, noting that Mrs. Pelosi campaigned heavily on promises of honest government. “Now we find out that she is exempting hometown companies from minimum wage. This is exactly the hypocrisy and double talk that we have come to expect from the Democrats.”

It’s like no one will ever notice, which is true with the drive by media.

Pelosi had said nixing tax cuts for half-million-dollar earners “might be more important to the American people than ignoring the educational and health needs of America’s children.”

Which is libtalk for giving the teacher’s union a massive new spending hike.

And let’s show the world what lowlife’s we are:

January 12, 2007 — Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer, an appalling scold from California, wasted no time yesterday in dragging the debate over Iraq about as low as it can go - attacking Secre tary of State Condoleezza Rice for being a childless woman.

Show us who you really are libbies.

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By Paul

January 12, 2007 04:54 PM | Link to this

It’s so quiet. Did the shock of two hyperlibs defending $3 an hour wages for working families shock the system so much it shut down?

By Midori

January 12, 2007 05:12 PM | Link to this

The Northern Marianas had a special exemption from the minimum wage.

Brian Ross on ABC uncovered footage of Tom Delay being wined and dined by the business interests of the Marianas as a thank you/keep it that way. They could make clothes in sweatshop conditions and still have “Made in the USA” tags.

Aside from making clothes apparently they also had forced prostitution and forced abortions.

So, Paul, I would venture that in your view making $3 an hour is shockingly evil opposed to forced prostitution and forced abortions?

I thought so, because that’s the Republican way.

“A bastard in every pot”

By Midori

January 12, 2007 05:18 PM | Link to this

Hmmmmmmmm

Barbara Boxer is a “lowlife” for saying that neither she, nor Rice, had any “immediate family members” in Iraq.

Boxer said nothing about Rice’s ability, or non ability to have children.

I was up until 1 watching the replay last night.

Yet, Jessie Helms all but threatened Bill Clinton from the Senate floor. With death, even. Dan Burton called him a “scumbag”, again from the senate floor. Dick Cheney tells Sen. Leahy to “go f himself”. Yet again this occured on the Senate floor.

you hypocritical wingnuts are all alike - ignorant as all hell, and prone to gross hypocrisy and double standards.

By Midori

January 12, 2007 05:21 PM | Link to this

one correction: Burton is/was in the House. so that should read “from the house floor” where it refers to Burton.

By Paul

January 12, 2007 05:25 PM | Link to this

Midori

This is deeply disappointing.

Why go back to the fingerpointing at DeLay? He was not honorable and was turned out - and took a lot of his Party with him. Pelosi and the Democrats had the opportunity to right a wrong - and perpetuated it. Not by omission - is was an active effort to keep this injustice in place.

Then you set up a comparison with, or an implied justification of, pitiful wages with prostitution and abortion?

Finally the personal invective.

Bottom line - Pelosi had the power to correct a grave injustice. She actively perpetuated it. And her ardent supporters justify and support her.

Interesting you mentioned DeLay. Suddenly, I believe in reincarnation.

By Point of order

January 12, 2007 05:44 PM | Link to this

The terms “On the floor of the Senate or House” refer to officially spoken words written into the Congressional record. Point of order has no desire to read the record to determine whether Midori misrepresented the facts as they apply to Helms and Burton, however Point of order knows for an absolute fact that she is lying about Cheney and thus concludes the other references should be considered suspect and the hearsay of an unreliable source.

By Phil

January 12, 2007 06:16 PM | Link to this

Good stuff, Raymond. Very.

By Buy Danish

January 12, 2007 06:23 PM | Link to this

This is going to be fun!

Charlie Rangel is none too pleased with Madame Pelosi’s tactics, and did a few end runs on her.

By Glenn

January 12, 2007 06:25 PM | Link to this

Where in the hell are we going? And why are we all in this handbasket?

By Buy Danish

January 12, 2007 06:26 PM | Link to this

Paul,

What did I tell you? Phil^^is complimenting “Raymond” who are one and the same person.

Psycho Phil,

Thanks for the entertainment!

By Phil

January 12, 2007 06:35 PM | Link to this

Thanks Phil.

I try hard Raymond.

Raymond, thank Phil for me.

Where is Phil?

I don’t know, I’m Raymond.

WTF is Phil?

Raymond?

By Paul

January 12, 2007 06:39 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish @ 6:26,

I think you’re a little paranoid and a bit too quick to accuse people of underhandedness.

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2007 06:43 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

It is “their” bath night you know.

Did you see that over at Wooten’s somebody nailed Brian Curtis for posting as getoveryourself? I wonder how long it’ll be before those “two” start patting each others butts.

By Paul

January 12, 2007 06:45 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Yes, why go back to fingerpointing at Delay? We Republicans haven’t mentioned Clinton since he left office (or blamed him for anything). And we would never do anything like bring up someone’s military record from 30 years ago in an attempt to turn a war hero into a traitor. So just leave Delay alone; that’s old news and you’re just spreading slander. There’s not that much evidence that Delay was crooked. Let’s all look to the future and all the positive things in Iraq.

By Buy Danish

January 12, 2007 06:47 PM | Link to this

RW,

I don’t know when they’ll be patting each other on the butts, but I’d sure like to pat yours.

By Buy Danish

January 12, 2007 06:50 PM | Link to this

RW,

I know - it’s their night, and it’s a long weekend, so they’re ready to rub a dub dub with gusto.

Damn, I missed that tidbit about Brainless. Now I’ll have to go back and read the damned thing!

Do you think that Paul^^ was nickjacked, or is that him being snarky?

By Raymond

January 12, 2007 06:53 PM | Link to this

Phil: I’m stiff. Are you?

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2007 06:53 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

But I thought you said last week that I could never afford you because you needed a man who worked to support you.

By Phil

January 12, 2007 06:53 PM | Link to this

Raymond: Let’s not talk about that here.

By Raymond

January 12, 2007 06:54 PM | Link to this

Phil: Check.

See ya later?

By Buy Danish

January 12, 2007 06:55 PM | Link to this

RW,

I wasn’t talking marriage. I just thought we could have a little thing on the side. My husband hasn’t given me any since 1996. Did you say something about a bath? Great idea, except we have to leave the lights off so we don’t see each others’ abundant wrinkles.

By Phil

January 12, 2007 06:55 PM | Link to this

Raymond: Yes, I’ll be “at” Midori’s.

Keep it up!

By Buy Danish the Very First

January 12, 2007 06:57 PM | Link to this

Professor Pecker Stalker,

What’s the matter punk? No kids to indoctrinate tonight?

Have a lonely weekend Stalker Boy.

By God

January 12, 2007 06:59 PM | Link to this

Whoaa! If Danish ever had a mind he has surely lost it. Well beyond paranoia. Now he’s hearing voices and imagining others are ganging up on his fat frame. Needs to be careful. Ray, enjoyed seeing you disembowel him and his would be fellow fascist freaks. He and they need to be reminded of their origins and status. Hitler is still a rising star to these Neanderthals.

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2007 07:01 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Yes, a bath would just magnify our many many wrinkles, both of our back hair, and all of your skin imperfections. By the way, you know I like my girls..er.. women much younger. You’re too old.

By Phil

January 12, 2007 07:02 PM | Link to this

BD, you truly are a spineless, pathetic life form. Thanks for the grins. You are totally…underwhelming.

By Buy Danish the Very First

January 12, 2007 07:06 PM | Link to this

I like to criticize others’ lives because I have such a great one. I spend over 40 hours a week blogging. Yes, it’s the culmination of a truly great life. I don’t really do much else, and haven’t done much else in my 49 years, but I think being a b!tch on a blog all day is quite an accomplishment. All bow to me.

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2007 07:07 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

That appears to be someone that can’t win an argument with Paul, stealing his name and wanking away. It’s like the whole wanker brigade showed with Midor….I mean whomever may have been losing the debate with Paul.

By Raymond

January 12, 2007 07:08 PM | Link to this

Phil: You remind me so much of One Voice.

Do you mind if I call you that?

By God

January 12, 2007 07:09 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish & RW,

You do know that I’m not real, right? You weren’t the ones who actually invented me; you were just tricked by the primitive people who invented me. What does that make you?

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2007 07:14 PM | Link to this

Philraymondgodglennhugeonevice’d Idiot,

If you are trying to tell us you’re nothing, we already knew.

Damn, Midori, did you start a food fight at the pet store?

By Phil

January 12, 2007 07:14 PM | Link to this

Last one in Midori’s tub is a pinko!