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Onward, ever onward

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By LuckoDull

January 8, 2007 07:59 AM | Link to this

Duller, ever duller.

It’s a true mark of a dullard to reduce the chance for a free, democratically governed, financially successful Iraq, where there was once only suffering and failure, into the “ego” of one person.

Should this not be the hope of a normal, sane country that is at war with blood thirsty suicidal terrorists?

Do you want the terrorists to win?

By candide

January 8, 2007 08:05 AM | Link to this

Sen. Biden has announced his candidacy for president. I cannot think of another prospective candidate with his foreign policy experience, good sense, balanced personality, and centrist policy. He would make a fine president and I hope in the coming year many others will find that out.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 8, 2007 08:05 AM | Link to this

Missing from picture:

McCain and Lieberman, in short pleated skirts with pom-poms cheering “Jump! Jump!”

By DumbLucko

January 8, 2007 08:08 AM | Link to this

Proof positive it does not take any special talent to win a Pulitzer.

By Tommy

January 8, 2007 08:12 AM | Link to this

All you neo-con-artists need to just chill. ML has a different opinion than you. Deal with it!

It’s not as if he’s telling everyone what to think. It’s an opinion piece. You agree, disagree, and debate. You don’t despair and destroy.

By Peter

January 8, 2007 08:13 AM | Link to this

BRILLIANT !

I had envisioned a more complex scenario with Duh-bya and Rummy lining dead soldiers at the pearly gates, trying to identify which died for the prior casualty. (Dead soldiers being justification for sending more to die in the failed, flawed, quagmire in Iraq.) That, being too complex to put in one cartoon panel.

Thanks, Mike.

By Mike

January 8, 2007 08:24 AM | Link to this

Looks like Luckovich is sticking to his “old way forward”: incessant criticism of those who don’t share his rabidly partisan views along with a complete lack of criticism of those who share his rabidly partisan views.

Luckovich, Hannity, Olbermann, Rush. No differnce. They are all a bucnh of partisan losers.

By Scooter

January 8, 2007 08:27 AM | Link to this

Don’t worry ml, the media’s constant negative drumbeat about Iraq has nearly broken the Country’s resolve and surrender is near. We won’t concern ourselves with how this will be interpreted by our enemies (Paper Tiger), or; how it will affect our image amongst those who have placed their futures in our hands by trusting we would finish the difficult fight. liberals, there is no defeat too grave, because they want to continue the failed policy of whacking moles.

Joseph Biden President? The same man who insists Iraq should be divided into three autonomous regions despite Iraqis overwhelming opposition to such an idea. Well, if you are going to have a puppet government and be a dictator…

By Brian Curtis

January 8, 2007 08:38 AM | Link to this

Why, this is outrageous! Surely Luckovich understands that it’s better to keep sacrificing more and more soldiers for a failed and pointless cause than to admit we were wrong!

You’ll never make Chief Advisor to a presidential admininstration with this attitude, Mr. L.

By Peter

January 8, 2007 08:38 AM | Link to this

Scooter - the reason we have these problems is Duh-bya’s quest for global colonization (our soldiers’ and Iraqi civilians’ blood to supply the US oil thirst). There WERE other options 9/12/2001.

By Eric

January 8, 2007 08:46 AM | Link to this

Iraq was better off before Bush destroyed the whole freakin country.

By Liberal Drive-by

January 8, 2007 08:50 AM | Link to this

Our enemies? Which country would that be again? North Korea (half-threat), Cuba (no threat) and who else?

By Mike

January 8, 2007 09:05 AM | Link to this

Interesting how a man who shirked easy reserve duty, fires two experienced generals, puts a navy admiral in charge of ground troups and refuses to listen to real soldiers about anything. Almost as bad as hannuty in Iraq downing Kerry and Murtha in a conversation with some US soldiers. He should asked them who would they prefer by their side in battle? georgie, hannuty or two proven war heros such as Kerry or Murtha.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 09:10 AM | Link to this

Do ego’s erupt like volcanoes? When I think of volcanoes I think of rage and violent tempers and “put a little ice on it”.

Oh never mind. You moron “liberal drive-bys” haven’t even heard of Iran, so what’s the point of introducing reality to the intellectually- challenged and your illiterate playpen pal buddy, Mike Luckovich.

By A Republican Prayer

January 8, 2007 09:15 AM | Link to this

Our father who art in heaven, please accept this sacrifice of young able bodied men. We pray that their sacrifice will increase corporate earnings, lower taxes, reduce oversight, give us the tools to monitor those we do not agree with, and allow us to destroy all nonbelievers of the only true faith.

Amen

By N-GA

January 8, 2007 09:18 AM | Link to this

Maybe Dubya will lower the standards for enlistment even further. That way he can solve multiple problems at once: No Child Left Behind, Insufficient Troops, and Unemployment…what a Jeenyus!!

By Peter

January 8, 2007 09:24 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish - This Iraq debacle is Iran’s wet dream come true. (Your fantasy is to blame the “liberals” who had nothing to do with it? Wake up.)

By Iraqis Love American Soldiers

January 8, 2007 09:34 AM | Link to this

That’s ‘cause everybody here in Baghdad says that americans taste just like chicken. For the next batch could you Republicans send us some original flavor? We’re gettin’ kinda tired of xtra-crispy!

By Kurtis R.E. Segars

January 8, 2007 09:42 AM | Link to this

How is this guy such a famous cartoonist? I hate Bush and neocns too, who knew all I had to do was draw unimaginative, uncreative pictures to become semi-famous? Why not just draw the words I hate Bush every day, it would be the same thing.

By @@

January 8, 2007 09:54 AM | Link to this

Are the Democrats down in that volcano trying to come up with ideas of their own ml?

What’s their plan to “succeed” in Iraq?

Why are their little “thought bubbles” empty, and so dark.

Could you go back and fill those in for us ml?

By Nomad

January 8, 2007 09:57 AM | Link to this

I agree with Kurtis. Well said. Biden for president? Candide you have lost your grip on reality.

NOMAD

By Midori

January 8, 2007 09:58 AM | Link to this

LOL

I saw this toon posted elsewhere last week.

As usual, Mike — Brilliant!!

By getalife

January 8, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Um, I wonder who posted this toon before?

He had to get an Admiral to go along because the rest would not. Purge and escalate.

Big Oil is close to getting the oil, so there is no stopping now.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Peter,

Let me try this s-l-o-w-l-y for you mental slow pokes.

A poster who calls himself “Drive by liberal” failed to mention Iran and implied that there really aren’t a lot of threats in the world, so why worry.

Got that?

By Midori

January 8, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Getalife:

wonder what that token admiral is getting out of this?

By Real Tax Relief

January 8, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Democrats are not ruling out raising taxes for the wealthiest people to help pay for tax cuts for middle-income families, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said.

She spoke of pursuing an estimated $300 billion that people owe in back taxes, eliminating deficit spending and reducing wasteful federal spending.

“As we review what we get from … collecting our taxes and reducing waste, fraud and abuse, investing in education and in initiatives which will bring money into the Treasury, it may be that (repealing) tax cuts for those making over a certain amount of money, $500,000 a year, might be more important to the American people than ignoring the educational and health needs of America’s children,” Pelosi, D-Calif., said in an interview aired Sunday.

A budget rule, known as the pay-as-you-go rule, that was approved by the Democratic-run House on Friday requires that tax cuts have corresponding cuts in government spending or tax increases elsewhere to pay for them.

“What we’re saying is Democrats propose tax cuts for middle-income families. And we want to have ‘pay-go,’ no new deficit spending. We’re not going to start with repealing tax cuts, but they certainly are not off the table for people making over half a million dollars a year,” Pelosi said.

It’s about time that the middle class got a significant tax cut too. Republicans will only allow significant tax cuts for the rich while they give the middle class ‘token’ tax cuts of little value. Watch how they vote on this one and see if it ain’t so! Look at your taxes this year, can you honestly say that your taxes have been significantly lowered. Anything the middle class got was more than eaten up in decreased property values, inflation, job outsourcings, and stagnant wage increases. Wake up America, you’ve been hornswoggled!

By N-GA

January 8, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Midori,

He’ll get a heckuva defense industry job, or perhaps he’ll work for a lobbyist. Then again he could go to work for one of those many not-for-profit conservative think tanks that contribute absolutely nothing to the Gross Domestic Product.

By Midori

January 8, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

AKA, “The Carlyle Group”.

It’s so disgusting!!

By the balls

January 8, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Today’s Cartoon Title: “GI JOE vs the VOLCANO”

(movie reference recalling the Tom Hanks, Meg Ryan flick, ” Joe vs the Volcano”.)

By N-GA

January 8, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

A great article on “Think Tanks”

By Midori

January 8, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

didn’t the PNAC crowd emerge from the American Enterprise Institute?

By reebok

January 8, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

“New Way Forward” appeals to the RightWingNuts because it fits easily on a bumper sticker…right along with “Shock and Awe,” “Stay the Course,” “Mission Accomplished” and “We’ll Stand Down When They Stand Up.” Every American death in Iraq serves only to destroy another American family. But Dubya feels good about himself!

By the balls

January 8, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

SURGE AND SECURE BAGHDAD WITH COUNTER-INSURGENCY TECHNIQUES

Bush’s new plan. A reanimation of the long dead tissue of a war plan….. It……..could……..WORK!!!

“When you’re down in Sadr City, and you find you’re fighting brick by brick, (boom boom), putting on a blitz.

Buying time by surging with new troopers. Trying hard to fend off speaker’s manuevers. (need a pooper scooper).

So when you surge and trust the kurds you know the urge is just to splurge on tricks…..Putting on a blitz….Puttin’ on a blitz…..Puttin on a blitz

By That's Funny

January 8, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

By Real Tax Relief January 8, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this It’s about time that the middle class got a significant tax cut too.

AntiRadical/ Spammie thinks the democrats are going to cut taxes.

Hahahaha.

What a sap.

By the balls

January 8, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

GI JOE VS THE VOLCANO

By Proud Pinko Liberal

January 8, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

McCain, who was supporting Bush’s planned escalation in the Iraq war is now saying he may not support the escalation. Of course, McCain’s reason for flip-flopping is insane: Bush’s proposal may not send as many additional US troops to die in Iraq as John McCain would like, and Bush may not plan on keeping those additional troops in Iraq as long as John McCain would like to keep them there.

Categorically insane. Categorically a Republican.

By Huge

January 8, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/08/bush.iraq.plan/index.html

President Bush’s new plan for Iraq will call for increasing the number of U.S. troops in Baghdad — and perhaps other areas — by at least 20,000, sources said.

The plan had been dubbed “A New Way Forward” as of last week.

To paraphrase The Who: Meet the new invasion, same as the old invasion…

What’s the matter? Not enough dead GIs yet? And dead for what? The Cheney Doctrine?

http://www.cheneydoctrine.com/

“If there’s a one percent chance that Pakistani scientists are helping al Qaeda build or develop a nuclear weapon, we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response,” Cheney said. He paused to assess his declaration. “It’s not about our analysis, or finding a preponderance of evidence,” he added. “It’s about our response.”

By Truthman

January 8, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis, Peter and Eric.

Well put! Couldn’t have said it better, so I won’t!!

TM

By Paul

January 8, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Wasn’t it just a couple of months ago we heard how the Democratic Congress would tell Bush & Co. how to get things straight in Iraq? Ummmmm, what happened? Campaign on Iraq, 100 hours of legislation on… student interest loan reduction? Wow, with the Democrats in control of the purse strings and the legislative process… it’s still Bush’s fault!

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 01:06 PM | Link to this

Huge Gambler,

Why don’t you tell us what it is about the Cheney Doctrine you object to?

Maybe give us an odds percentage which you’re comfortable with?

By getalife

January 8, 2007 01:16 PM | Link to this

Wingnuts, geez.

By Curious Observer

January 8, 2007 01:48 PM | Link to this

For once, I agree with Wooten. Let’s not waste a lot of the legislature’s time on education.

How much money does it take to teach Georgia’s youth to say “Do You Want Fries With That?” Oh, maybe we can provide the technical schools with the funds to teach our high school graduates to operate one of those cash registers with the little pictures of meals and food items on the keys.

The good jobs are being shipped overseas anyway—either that or people like Arlen Specter are slipping in amendments to bills to import more foreign workers to take the good jobs—at reduced wages, of course.

Let’s spend the legislature’s precious time on more important things—like passing amendments to ban flag burning or abortion. Maybe the legislature can come up with another 20 or so amendments to clog up the 2008 ballot, something like, “Shall the cousins of widows of deceased turpentine industry workers be exempt from ad valorem taxes on forests and the structures thereon?”

Whatever they do, the legislators in this session should not tamper with education. Georgia’s reputation as the next-dumbest state in the union is at risk otherwise.

By RE

January 8, 2007 01:51 PM | Link to this

BD can’t see anything wrong with the Cheney Doctrine.

You are not supposed to act upon the possibility of an action, but evidence of that action.

For example, I think there is a 1% chance you are a godless communist looking to bring about the end of the free market economy and are planning to use violent action to do so.

I am 99% sure that is not the case, but it is still a posibility….. You sure do seem to know alot about the history of communists and their links to different institutions. And you are a vocal critic of the idea of socialism…. SOunds to me like the perfect cover

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 01:56 PM | Link to this

CO,

Wooten is next door.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 02:18 PM | Link to this

You are not supposed to act upon the possibility of an action, but evidence of that action.

REally Idiotic Strategist,

You mean wait until AFTER 9/11 or AFTER a nuclear attack?

The rest of your “commentary” is mindless babbling, so I won’t even bother addressing it.

By RE

January 8, 2007 02:25 PM | Link to this

Well, the administration did wait until after 9-11 to do anything, remember?

By getalife

January 8, 2007 02:32 PM | Link to this

“There was something almost sad about Bush putting his own name on an op-ed piece in The Wall Street Journal that laid out his legislative agenda on the eve of the formal Democratic takeover of Capitol Hill. Clearly gone are the days when Vice President Dick Cheney could use a private meeting with Republican lawmakers to set the congressional priorities list. Now, it seems, the president is positioning himself as just another spectator on the outskirts of power - firing off letters to the editor. Perhaps he should start his own blog.”

“I listen to the Generals on the ground” w.

Yeah right, and they say Kerry was a flip flopper.

Geez.

By Everyman

January 8, 2007 02:38 PM | Link to this

“You mean wait until AFTER 9/11 or AFTER a nuclear attack?”

I will not live my life in fear. Events like those of 9/11 are the price of living in a free society. I would rather die free than live a slave.

I think most americans have similar feelings — it is ingrained in our culture.

Yes 9/11 was bad. Yes we should do what we can to prevent it EXCEPT when it comes to limiting our freedom. The phrase “reasonable limitation of freedoms” is a trap, and we have fallen into it.

Now we must extricate ourselves. We cannot force the world to be as we would wish, we must work with it as it is, and over time, if we truly are a free country, and truly freedom is better than the alternatives, over time we will prevail. Not with weapons, bullets or violence.

But with ideas.

You can’t kill an idea. You cannot ban thought. You cannot defeat freedom.

By Goldie

January 8, 2007 02:40 PM | Link to this

Today’s toon is a real beaut, Lucko! Dubya’s ego is a smoldering cauldron of arrogance and greed… and BTW, when has he EVER sacrificed anything for his country?

By Thomas

January 8, 2007 02:42 PM | Link to this

Greets —-

Hope everyone’s weekend was great —

ML - Great One here -

I guess “Strategy Master” Dubya has never heard the words “Target Rich Environment”.

Cheers - Thomas

By michael gay

January 8, 2007 02:44 PM | Link to this

sorry you have a job when good people are looking. People like you do not know what it takes to maintain this country but it will not be long before it is all gone .between GW and people like you we don’t have a chance of making it.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 02:44 PM | Link to this

RE,

There’s no point in discussing anything with you because you always change the subject. We’re talking about a doctrine moving forward and since you inserted yourself into this, your task is to tell us what you don’t agree with about the Cheney Doctrine, not to tell us what was wrong before that doctrine was formulated.

Try answering one question at a time before you leap overboard. Until you can do that I won’t bother responding to you any more.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 02:50 PM | Link to this

I will not live my life in fear. Events like those of 9/11 are the price of living in a free society. I would rather die free than live a slave.

NOT Everyman (I certainly hope),

You’re a slave? How can that be if “you can’t kill an idea, you can’t ban thought, you can’t defeat freedom”?

I also gather that no one you knew died on 9/11 or you might not be so cavalier in dismissing their deaths, and the threat that those who did this to us present to our future and my child’s future.

I’m also going to go out on a limb and guess that like the most of the wanking metrosexuals who blog here, that you don’t have any children.

By RE

January 8, 2007 02:59 PM | Link to this

Ohh, that would ruin my day BD.

Ok a few things, the way the doctrine is put foward looks at possibilities without consideration of evidence. Then the country takes action based solely upon a possibility, even if it is remote. We barely have the resources to act upon confirmed threats, we cannot act upon possibilities. Also the doctrine is in general meaningless, because it is not and will not be acted upon. Pakistani scientists (AQ Kahn) did give nuclear technology to N Korea and Libya. For this, he is celebrated as a hero in Pakistan. He is not under arrest, and lives well in Pakistan.

Much like many other statements from this administration, it is meaningless slogans and blustering.

By Brian Curtis

January 8, 2007 03:15 PM | Link to this

BD: If only Everyman WERE every man in this country.

A willingness to sacrifice freedom for the promise of security… well, you know the quote, and you know how un-American and cowardly that attitude is.

“Anything to keep us safe!” is the cry of the coward, not the patriot. And it just makes the aspiring fascist smile to see how easily people can be manipulated into abandoning their ideals. Would YOU renounce freedom if a jihadist were holding a sword to your throat? I wouldn’t.

By getalife

January 8, 2007 03:17 PM | Link to this

Rep. John Murtha (D-PA), the chairman of the House Defense Appropriations Committee, said he intends to block funding for any escalation plan.

Thank you Mr. Murtha.

By Paul

January 8, 2007 03:27 PM | Link to this

Not even two weeks into the new Congress and already the Democrats are proving way more entertaining than the Republicans. Let’s see, they were going to show the Republicans how to get serious, work hard and solve problems. So, they announced a 5-day work week (hope they don’t strain themselves). Anyone notice they’re not in session today? Why? Because there’s a football game! Pelosi takes sports metaphors to new heights. Go Dems!

By regulator

January 8, 2007 03:39 PM | Link to this

Wow Paul, you expect the Democrats to correct eight years of bungling idiots in two days. Little much don’t you think.

By Jan

January 8, 2007 03:42 PM | Link to this

Do we want the terrorists to win? What an ignorant question!

If Bush’s Iraq War is indeed the struggle for “Western Civilization” about which he takes every oppostunity to warn us…
May I ask where is the rest of “Western Civilization” is? Wasn’t the mission already accomplished? Why are we escalating?

By Midori

January 8, 2007 03:43 PM | Link to this

Jack Cafferty’s question of the day (one of them anyway):

5 p.m.: Should the House of Representatives have taken the day off so Rep. John Boehner could go to a football game?

hmmmmmmm…………..

By Thomas

January 8, 2007 03:46 PM | Link to this

Paul —

Do you think that even Pelosi could get those beer and pretzel (Yay!-Team)Republicans to do any work while there’s a good game on? She was wise enough to let them have their game day!` Then it’s back to work!

(chuckles)

By Paul

January 8, 2007 03:47 PM | Link to this

regulator - care to apply that same logic to 9 months of the first Bush administration compared to 8 years of his predecessor?

By Goldie

January 8, 2007 03:52 PM | Link to this

{Not even two weeks into the new Congress and already the Democrats are proving way more entertaining than the Republicans.}

Paul— Way more entertaining than stomping on the Bill of Rights, making scapegoats of immigrants, and pushing through bills to ban flag burning? You’re very easily entertained, I suppose.

By Midori

January 8, 2007 03:53 PM | Link to this

why the mixing of apples and oranges, Paul?

what has Bush I and Reagan got to do with anything?

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2007 03:57 PM | Link to this

Are all these leftists that are blustering about 9/11 being nothing but the cost of freedom the same ones that b!tch incessantly about President Bush not preventing it?

Midori,

Nancy Pelosi is in charge of the House. You may have heard of her, she’s the Democrat from San Francisco that is trying to convince the world she represents Baltimore.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2007 04:02 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Murtha will cave in the minute somebody gives him his cut. He’s not considered the most corrupt member of Congress for nothing you know.

regulator,

I don’t remember the Dems campaigning on a platform of looking around after they took office to see what needed to be done. They claimed they had all the answers and were ready to implement them. Are you telling us they lied?

By Midori

January 8, 2007 04:02 PM | Link to this

I thought RW and Paul sounded just too much alike.

By Midori

January 8, 2007 04:03 PM | Link to this

RW/Paul,

Perhaps you should direct your comments to Jack Cafferty?

By Paul

January 8, 2007 04:03 PM | Link to this

Goldie - It’s a new year. Lighten up. Learn to laugh a little. As I’ve said, Dems, Reps, not a whole lot of difference when it comes to promises made/promises kept.

Midori - thought it was self evident the reference was to the current President’s first 9 months with the previous President’s two terms, as many on this forum like to use the same argument structure (well Bush had nine whole months to listen to all of Clinton’s experts and he didn’t and we got attacked!!!!). Not that I’m much for justifying poor performance by pointing out anothers’ poor performance. This comment should follow another (5-minute delay) in which I began with “seriously.”

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 04:05 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

Are you and Everyman “slaves” together?

RE,

The so-called “Cheney Doctrine” is not a formal doctrine at all, but is Ron Suskind’s interpretation of a single statement that Cheney made, which specifically referred to the hypothetical event of a nuclear alliance between Al Qaeda and Pakistan.

{{“We have to deal with this new type of threat in a way we haven’t yet defined… . With a low-probability, high-impact event like this … If there’s a one percent chance that Pakistani scientists are helping al Qaeda build or develop a nuclear weapon, we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response.”}}

Note the phrase “in a way we haven’t yet defined”. We have never taken any military action against Pakistan, have we? The whole subject is a red herring.

Huge Global Warming enthusiasts,

Aren’t you all asking us to utilize something like “The Cheney Doctrine” by believing your scary computer models and asking us to take preemptive action based on a fairy tale?

Getalife,

Murtha can’t block funding for any escalation plan, if the troops leave in the near future, and you are incredibly gullible if you think he can.

If Murtha wants to stand on cutting off funding for our troops, I hope he gets 24/7 coverage, with Cindy Sheehan at his side.

By Paul

January 8, 2007 04:06 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) - I think I’ve heard of her. Is that the same Nancy Pelosi who owns an interest in a vineyard and fires the workers if they try to unionize? Is it the same Nancy Pelosi who wants to take more money away from “rich” people but who has lots of trusts to shield income from taxes?

Or is that another Nancy Pelosi?

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2007 04:09 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I don’t have a question about who runs the House. I’m just trying to help you out as it seems Cafferty thinks his audience is a bunch of gullible parrots. I guess he’s right.

By Midori

January 8, 2007 04:10 PM | Link to this

RW/Paul,

sorry — I had absolutely no idea what was going on in your head, and what point you were trying to make.

Your whole conversation today seems to border on the absurb.

Sue me.

By Liberal

January 8, 2007 04:10 PM | Link to this

I hate George Bush more than I love America.

By Midori

January 8, 2007 04:14 PM | Link to this

RW/Paul,

I didn’t have a question as to who runs the house, either.

It appears your bizarro half did.

I just responded with what Cafferty said.

By Huge

January 8, 2007 04:15 PM | Link to this

RE,

Your response to BD about the ridiculous Cheney Doctrine answers her ludicrous question as well as I could, but, you know how that goes.

What needs clarifying? In spite of her unwillingness to read or understand it, is incredible in light of Cheney’s own words, REPEATED here:

“It’s not about our analysis, or finding a preponderance of evidence,” he added. “It’s about our response.”

And here’s evidence (note the author) that my moderate view is shared across the political spectrum:

The Cheney Doctrine: War Without End

Patrick J. Buchanan

“For America, the logic of the Bush Doctrine of Pre-emptive War points to war without end.”

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28804

So, response trumps analysis. Bravado trumps reason. Posturing trumps intellect. Fear trumps everything.

And anybody who would seriously posit the question what is wrong with this “doctrine” is utterly hopeless…

By Midori

January 8, 2007 04:17 PM | Link to this

I swear - you wingnuts aren’t happy until you throw grenades and trash motel rooms.

Try watching a movie. Go for a walk. Visit a museum. Anything to calm down.

There’s other ways of getting your aggression out, rather than come on this blog flinging feces.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 04:20 PM | Link to this

It appears that Dahreese/Dennis gets around, with his signature doublespeak phrase.

Here he is at The Washington Note

By Paul

January 8, 2007 04:21 PM | Link to this

Goldie at 3:52

“You’re very easily entertained, I suppose.”

But of course! I read these comments, don’t I? The work comes in trying to convince myself some of the writers are serious!

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2007 04:22 PM | Link to this

Parrot,

You’re the one quoting Cafferty to imply that Boehner is running the House. That will be 111th Congress.

Paul,

That’s the one. I think she’s going to rename the vineyard “Maryland” soon.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 04:22 PM | Link to this

Okay, now I just posted something to Dennis/Dahreese that was meant for Wootens.

The problem is that everything is called “Welcome to the AJC!” today when you minimize it.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 04:24 PM | Link to this

Huge,

One sentence does not a “Doctrine” make, and I don’t give a flip what Patrick Buchanan says.

By Mike

January 8, 2007 04:25 PM | Link to this

Midori, your are such a typical liberal hypocrite. You live on this blog and your frequent hate speech has even included racist rants on your part.

You are the one who needs to get a life.

By the balls

January 8, 2007 04:25 PM | Link to this

Today’s cartoon could have been entitled, “GI JOE VS THE VOLCANO”.

By Midori

January 8, 2007 04:28 PM | Link to this

Huge,

good to see you today :)

for some reason, the wingnuts are irate today, and are looking for someone to take it out on.

They are just out to split hairs and pick fights. I suppose thats better than splitting their pants and picking their noses.

Just a heads up……….

By Midori

January 8, 2007 04:31 PM | Link to this

RW/Paul,

Sorry, I’m not in the mood today.

check with me tomorrow. maybe by then I’ll be angry about something, and can join you in the petty name calling and fact twisting.

++++smooches+++

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2007 04:31 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Forget the Pat Buchanan part, how about small calling himself a moderate? He’s just like the scribbler!

By Huge

January 8, 2007 04:33 PM | Link to this

Pop Quiz

Which of the following two paragraphs is the most illogical? Extra credit for pointing out red herrings and fallacious comparisons.

Are all these leftists that are blustering about 9/11 being nothing but the cost of freedom the same ones that b!tch incessantly about President Bush not preventing it?

Aren’t you all asking us to utilize something like “The Cheney Doctrine” by believing your scary computer models and asking us to take preemptive action based on a fairy tale?

By Mike

January 8, 2007 04:34 PM | Link to this

Midori - take a look at the spew you just wrote and tell us again about how “those wingnuts” need to be civil.

Why are all liberals such hypocrites?

By Midori

January 8, 2007 04:35 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Mike.

Right-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t.

Uh-huh.

Anything you say.

ROFL coming from one who puts the “hip” in hypocrite.

Is it a full moon or something? You want to pick my nose, too?

By ball huggers

January 8, 2007 04:37 PM | Link to this

Midori, what were you doing in NYC this morning?

By Midori

January 8, 2007 04:39 PM | Link to this

LOL, Mikey

I hear ya knocking, but you can’t come in :)

By LuckoDull

January 8, 2007 04:52 PM | Link to this

By Jan January 8, 2007 03:42 PM Do we want the terrorists to win? What an ignorant question!

If the United States leaves Iraq before the terrorists are defeated then the terrorists win.

Can it be any simpler to understand, do we need to translate this into Dullard?

It’s what they are fighting us for, you freak.

Maybe you have some liberal playground version of the world that I haven’t considered, perhaps now you could share your looney scenario with us, no?

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By Midori

January 8, 2007 04:52 PM | Link to this

Poll: Americans want Democrats, not Bush, at helm

WASHINGTON — Democrats have taken control of Congress this month amid a wave of good feeling from a public that places one issue at the top of their to-do list: Iraq.

A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken Friday through Sunday shows that Americans by 2-to-1 — 63% to 32% — want congressional Democrats, not President Bush, to have more influence over the direction the nation takes in 2007 .

Half or more of those surveyed identify four issues as “extremely important” for the White House and Congress to deal with this year: The situation in Iraq, terrorism, corruption in government and health care.

That’s a shift from recent years. At the beginning of 2005 and 2006, terrorism and Iraq essentially were tied as the issues of highest importance to the most Americans. But the war in Iraq has grown in importance each year and now has clearly moved into the top spot.

By Local Recruiter

January 8, 2007 04:59 PM | Link to this

Am I going to see all you “Surge Protectors” at my office Thusday morning or are you going to remain safely behind your computer keyboard?

Pansies.

Panty Waists.

Chickenhawks.

Warmongers.

SINNERS!

By oldhonky

January 8, 2007 05:00 PM | Link to this

But it doesn’t even count unless they’re all certifiably virgins, according to the traditions of volcano human sacrifice.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 05:01 PM | Link to this

RW,

Yes, and now he’s trying to pose as a “moderate Republican”!

Huge neo-RINO,

Explain the difference between taking premptive action at great cost to satisfy Global Warming Theory, and the so-called “Cheney Doctrine” which, for all that one paragraph is worth, at least mentions threats that we know for a fact are real right here and now.

By the balls

January 8, 2007 05:01 PM | Link to this

So when is Dubya going to answer for his crimes against humanity? Should we try him in Iraq since he cause the death of so many people there.

I’m sure that he will get a fair trial before the hanging.

By Paul

January 8, 2007 05:03 PM | Link to this

Midori!

Who did I disparage with namecalling? What facts did I twist?

By oldhonky

January 8, 2007 05:04 PM | Link to this

But are they all virgins? Otherwise, the Volcano God will not be appeased.

By Paul

January 8, 2007 05:08 PM | Link to this

Midori at 4:52

“Democrats have taken control of Congress this month amid a wave of good feeling from a public that places one issue at the top of their to-do list: Iraq.”

That’s the point I’ve been making the past week - and have had absolutely no response. I’ve pointed out the 100-hour agenda - no Iraq. I’ve pointed out the Democratic victories as attributed to Iraq - and now, no action, or business as usual. I’ve asked the Democratic/Pelosi/etc supporters why they are not outraged - and have been met with silence.

By Dusty

January 8, 2007 05:08 PM | Link to this

Well, Liberal,@ 4:10

You have finally made a true statement that covers about 90% of the liberal posters on this blog. You said:

I HATE GEORGE BUSH MORE THAN I LOVE AMERICA.

Liberals here today are applauding a man, Luckovich, who wants to say that Americans are throwing our volunteer military into a volcano as sacrificial “meat”. There is no sign of respect for those who fight for us.

Their leader is pictured as a Viking chief murdering our troops without regret.

The cause for all this, as seen by Luckovich, is Bush’s ego, not the president’s great desire to protect Americans by fighting terrorism far away instead of in our homeland.

The liberal vipers here cannot applaud enough, anything that undermines our efforts in Iraq.

To paraphrase “Liberal”: They hate our president more than they love our country. They will demand that our troops be brought home in disgrace, the terrorists left to thrive and the Iraqis left with broken promises and a broken country.

This blog seems to be a perpetuator of anti-Americanism. Yes, I know. To kill a country with dissent is good for it. Maybe your country, but not mine.

By Huge

January 8, 2007 05:16 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I noticed. The neo-cons are probably still seething from last week’s head knocking! (See cow farts and the uber-suspicious Earth Day/Lenin’s birthday connection!) Even spewing impotent rage over at Wooten’s all weekend long, doesn’t satisfy their thirst for public humiliation.

“I don’t give a flip what Patrick Buchanan says…”

Bigot absurdly discounting somebody’s informed opinion?!! I’m completely shocked!

And this from the ever erudite RW:

“He’s just like the scribbler!”

Comparing me to a Pulitzer Prize winner?! The putz goes for an insult and it’s an unintentional compliment. Thanks!

The laughs just keep coming!

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 05:28 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I agree completely with your sentiments, but I think that “Liberal” is really a conservative who was trying to make a point about Liberals hating America.

It’s not surprising that you were fooled, considering the presence of scum like Po “by the balls” Fo who says thing like this:

{{By the balls

January 8, 2007 05:01 PM | Link to this

So when is Dubya going to answer for his crimes against humanity? Should we try him in Iraq since he cause the death of so many people there.

I’m sure that he will get a fair trial before the hanging.}}

I have a particular wish for By the Balls, but it is too mean-spirited to mention in polite company.

By bon scott

January 8, 2007 05:28 PM | Link to this

By LuckoDull - January 8, 2007 04:52 PM - If the United States leaves Iraq before the terrorists are defeated then the terrorists win.

Brilliant! NOT.

In fact, it’s simplistic sophistry. Care to identify just who the terrorists are? Their leaders, links, liasons, logistics??

It’ll be tough. They’re so busy killing off eachother thay have little time for anything like a common front against the US, the UN, GE, McDonalds or any other foreign entity.

And remember. It was the Bush/Cheney “doctrine” that created this beast. They couldn’t even (and didn’t really TRY to) keep the Sadr supporters from turning what was Saddam’s well deserved death into a martyr’s platform. He’s laughing like hell, even though he’s in it.

Hey, if we defeat what you define as “the terrorists”, there will be no one left in Iraq to live, let alone rule.

Get back on your meds.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 05:30 PM | Link to this

Huge Gas Bag,

You are the one who listed the UN as an authority when you spammed the board with what you consider to be spot on sources for Global Warming fairy tales.

I cite a UN REPORT which blames farting livestock and you’re laughing at me?

The jokes on you, blowhard!

By Midori

January 8, 2007 05:36 PM | Link to this

ROFL, Huge :)

All one needs is a Pepsi and a freshly popped bag of Popcorn.

They are an absolute HOOT.

It’s far better, and more satisfying, to laugh at their snarls and snipes :)

By Midori

January 8, 2007 05:39 PM | Link to this

Bon Scott,

Dull hasn’t met a catch phrase or slogan he doesn’t like.

Never mind that they are completely stupid and make absolutely no sense :)

By bon scott

January 8, 2007 05:48 PM | Link to this

Midori, it truly is amazing. I can’t wait for George’s speech on the Iraq “surge” Wednesday. The surge is is going to see won’t be anything like the one he’s asking for.

I think he really does want to pass it along to the next sucker (President), just like Nixon passed Vietnam onto Ford, in the false hope that his legacy wouldn’t be scarred.

Morans, all of them.

By LuckoDull

January 8, 2007 05:52 PM | Link to this

By bon scott January 8, 2007 05:28 PM Care to identify just who the terrorists are? Their leaders, links, liasons, logistics??

If anyone would like to try and make some sense out of what Bonny just said or perhaps even translate it into English, I would greatly appreciate the assistance.

As it stands now, I have no idea what she just said to me.

I believe it was something about no terrorists in Iraq, which is insane to even think, so I would like to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I hope.

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By Huge

January 8, 2007 06:00 PM | Link to this

No, bigot, as always, the joke is most definitely still on you.

Your aversion to realize the obvious - that the UN and all of those other prestigous organizations, you hate and discount, solely because they logically propose what you don’t want to hear- offer many, many ideas from many, many people.

Not all of them are in agreement.

Are you really so stupid as to think that the United Nations doesn’t have thousands of pages of documents supporting their overall endorsement of man-induced global warming? Please tell me that you’re really not that dense, that you’re hanging your hopes on this one argument.

Only partisan fools, like yourself, consistently look for and find the one example to support their position and throw away the much, much larger and vast number of others that they disagree with, and expect people to think you’re making sense.

You are not. Speaking of which, did you watch Inherit the Wind this weekend on PBS? (Have you heard of that network? Although, it may be too “liberal” for your tastes.)

In case you also slept through your Humanities classes (in addition to your Science classes), it was first a play then a movie about the Scopes Monkey Trial. Spencer Tracy won an Oscar for his role as Clarence Darrow.

Crusty,

Worry about your own patriotism, and let everyone else worry about theirs.

Your ability to do as I say and not as I do, didn’t even last one day. Tsk, tsk. Hyper-hypocrite.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 06:07 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull,

I don’t have a clue what Bonnie Scott Finchie is talking about, but she is quite the blog terrorist herself.

I’ll let RW post her New Year’s Eve message, but (in addition to passing out in the middle of a rant that mentions a whole lot of drugs) she uses a word I’ve never heard of. Anyone want to wager a guess what “dancy” means as in the phrase “Perfectly dancy”?

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2007 06:11 PM | Link to this

Huge Ego,

Do you have any writing or drawing skills? If you do maybe you can join luckovich in what you deem as the greatness one must possess to have been bestowed the prize. A nice little hall of shame, a huge blog boor, an anti-American ultra leftist cartoonist, and Stalin’s propagandist. I’m sure there are many more that would fit right in to your new “Moderate” Party.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2007 06:18 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I think finch is still shooting up today.

{{{{The surge is is going to see won’t be….}}}}}

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 06:19 PM | Link to this

{{Not all of them are in agreement}}

Blowhard,

Haven’t you been telling us that your side is in lockstep and it is only us flat-Earth people who question the “Undeniable Truth”?

As for a fairy tale called “Inherit the Wind”, this is the true story of what happened at the Scopes Trial, not he fake fake fake Hollywood propaganda version:

Summer of the Gods

I wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve based your whole opinion of Christians on this Big Lie of a movie.

It’s pretty embarrassing for your side, but I trust you’re willing to learn something for a change instead of bloviating.

By the balls

January 8, 2007 06:22 PM | Link to this

Today’s cartoon could have been entitled, “GI JOE VS THE VOLCANO.”

By Dusty

January 8, 2007 06:22 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I don’t care just whom is saying it but for most LIBERALS it is still true, ‘specially for Luckovich:

They hate George Bush more than they love America.

You can’t read this blog and not know that is true.

By not the Anonymous Legendary Wanker

January 8, 2007 06:25 PM | Link to this

RW,

In your honor I have decided to teach “Inherit the Wind” this semester. You should be proud to have had such a positive influence.

By not the Anonymous Legendary Wanker

January 8, 2007 06:27 PM | Link to this

I just typed the previous post to RW without having read Buy Danishes post at 6:19. I must be psychic. Buy Danish, I will dedicate every discussion we have about evolution and christianity to you as well.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 06:28 PM | Link to this

RW,

Yep, it sounds like finch is getting some kind of morphine “surge” there. I gather that’s what happens just before they nod off.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 06:30 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

You’re absolutley right.

Po “by the balls” Fo,

How about going to find some insurgency somewhere so those Bush hating “balls” of yours can end up where they belong -like in your freaking mouth?

By not the Anonymous Legendary Wanker

January 8, 2007 06:31 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

It is not possible to love both. If you love America you MUST hate Bush because he has been so detrimental to the country and the people. You will see in the coming years (unless the Democrats are able to stop the downward spiral) just how catastrophic his reign has been.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 06:32 PM | Link to this

Pecker Stalker,

That would be “Christianity” with a capital “C”, freak.

By Ted Haggard

January 8, 2007 06:33 PM | Link to this

I’ve based my whole opinion of Christians on Christians. By the way, I covet my neighbor’s a$$.

By Huge

January 8, 2007 06:37 PM | Link to this

Stalin propogandist?

My, my, RW. Prone to hyper-exaggeration, much?

Well when you have as little to go on as you have lately, it’s something. Childish, but something.

Look up Ignoratio elenchi for the definition of your pitiful debating skills.

Unlike yourself, bigot, I don’t accept books or movies, or especially TV and radio, as more relevant that the actual events.

But showing “ignoramuses and bigots” for what they truly are, is always rewarding, no matter the venue.

If you need help recollecting the actual facts of that case, let me know and I’ll be glad to link a synopsis for you…

“Haven’t you been telling us that your side is in lockstep and it is only us flat-Earth people who question the “Undeniable Truth”?”

I know you’re trying to be rhetorical, but you always come across as just plain stupid.

Marching in lock-step, as I’ve noted many times before, is a trait uniquely found in lemmings, nazis and neo-cons.

Moderates and the left can’t agree on much at all. The right, however, feels compelled to never stand alone. The old safety in numbers cowardice and mentality…

By One Voice

January 8, 2007 06:37 PM | Link to this

Name three conservative republicans who get off on shooting people in the face.

Give up?

Dick Cheney, Ted Haggard, and Mark Foley.

(Word has it that former cheerleader Bush does as well.)

By RE

January 8, 2007 06:41 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Just for you. America is the only country I have ever lived in, and I love it deeply. The history, the struggle to make it free are inspiring to me. The wisdom of the forefathers in drafting the constitution is amazing. An amazing, imperfect compromise that recognized it is imperfect and left room for alteration. I have visited a few other counties and would not live in any other. I would defend this country at all costs.

I also think GWB has made terrible decisions, recieved poor advice in troubling times.

My disatisfaction which does border on hatred of the administration is in it’s continued practice of simplification, obfuscation, and misdirection of responsibility coupled with the inability to admit any mistake in it’s poor policy making.

America and the rest of the world would be better off without GWB

By not the Anonymous Legendary Wanker

January 8, 2007 06:43 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

It does not deserve a capital “C”. I find it interesting that a christian like yourself would suggest that someone put balls in their mouth (6:30). You must have gone to Ted Haggard’s church while you lived in Mark Foley’s district.

By Nice Trick

January 8, 2007 06:43 PM | Link to this

Huge and One Voice “both” posting “together” at 6:37 to make it appear as though “they” are two entirely different wankers.

By Nice Trick

January 8, 2007 06:43 PM | Link to this

Huge and One Voice “both” posting “together” at 6:37 to make it appear as though “they” are two entirely different wankers.

Like I just did.

By not the Anonymous Legendary Wanker

January 8, 2007 06:46 PM | Link to this

Dusty, why do you hate America so much? All of your opinions show that you never have the country’s best interest at heart, only partisan politics. Stop being a traitor.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2007 06:46 PM | Link to this

Stalker boy,

I think psychic is what you refer to as a typo. Psychotic is what you were searching for. Since you spend so much time hanging out stalking my blog it didn’t take much to know we had been talking about the movie.

It sure doesn’t surprise me that you would teach fiction, let’s hope you label it properly.

By One Voice

January 8, 2007 06:50 PM | Link to this

Huge,

Since I enjoy your posts and agree with most of what you have to say, I don’t mind them confusing us. In addition, it is just more proof that they are simply eternally confused and lack reasoning ability. I think they could use some common sense.

By Huge

January 8, 2007 06:51 PM | Link to this

Neo-cons,

If you love GWB and the republican party more than this country, and from your writings, you obviously do, than you are the traitors.

One Voice,

Your 6:37 is great! Awful, but great!

Nice trick/andy,

You never could discern between different writing styles, or much of anything else, for that matter…

By not the Anonymous Legendary Wanker

January 8, 2007 06:53 PM | Link to this

Rick,

You have a blog? Please do provide us with the link.

By George

January 8, 2007 06:53 PM | Link to this

Dusty, I love the United States of America much more than I hate George Bush! If there are terrorists that do harm to the US I would be willing to inialate them no matter who is in charge.

Unfortunately, we have George Bush sending our troops to Iraq where they are wildly swinging in the dark at whatever moves instead of going after the terrorists that did us harm. The terrorists that did us harm are not in Iraq. So instead of Killing the people that killed our people, we have Bush’s boondoggle in Iraq with no end in sight nor are we even sure who the enemy is there.

Oh and your pansy President hero let the bad guys get away.

You sure are brave following a guy that can’t even remember where the bad guys are.

By @@

January 8, 2007 06:55 PM | Link to this

You’ve had all day to fill in those “thought bubbles” ml.

Just look, your cartoon heads up the Democrats.US-Online Think Tank, but still, your “thought bubbles” remain empty.

How do the Democrats plan to deal with Iraq?

Maybe they’re “brain farts”.

Are those brain farts coming from the Democrats in that volcano ml or are your thoughts in the tank today?

By Andy is the Anonymous Legendary Wanker

January 8, 2007 06:59 PM | Link to this

RW, detective dipsh!t, never figured out that he was kissing the ALW’s a$$ every day for the last year.

By Dusty

January 8, 2007 07:02 PM | Link to this

Huge,

I do worry about my patriotism. And when you get some, you worry about yours.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 07:06 PM | Link to this

Huge Joke,

You and Pecker Stalker (aka “One Voice” et cetera ad nauseum) would be experts at that now, wouldn’t you? In fact, aren’t you late for the gym?

Stalker Boy,

It was a reference to what Islamists do before they behead their victims. Since PoFo thinks it is a crime against humanity to go after them, I figure he could use a dose of their tactics.

By Andy is the Anonymous Legendary Wanker

January 8, 2007 07:08 PM | Link to this

It makes perfect sense that Andy is talking about turning tricks. It’s the only chance he has to get laid, AND it’s the only way Granny or @@ will make any money this year.

By Buy Danish

January 8, 2007 07:11 PM | Link to this

@@,

There’s nothing like a bunch of moonbats who use the illiterate Luckovich as the champion of their “ideas”.

By Anne

January 9, 2007 01:32 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull, are you stupid or merely delusional?

By Keith

January 10, 2007 08:08 AM | Link to this

I had an idea along similar lines and I wish you would have used it. the picture is one of the 20,000 additional troops standing in review before the president. He is shaking hands and hugging the troops and telling them how proud he is as he is inadvertently slapping a target on the back of every soldiers. It would have made a good cartoon.

By LuckoDull

January 11, 2007 08:00 AM | Link to this

Huh, I never knew that Islamic Fascists had crosses in their cemeteries.

And to think I once said the AJC would never teach me anything.

Surely that isn’t an American cemetery that Mikey drew, after all, Bush is just doing what you liberals have been hammering on him to do:

REP. PELOSI: What I would do and what I think our country must do in Iraq is take an assessment of where we are. And there has to be a leveling with the American people and with the Congress of the United States as to what is really actually happening there. It’s very hard to say what you would do. We need more troops on the ground. General…

We all know you idiots didn’t really mean, you say alot of things that you can’t remember a few weeks down the road.

Which is why I like having Bush as our leader, when he says he is going to win in Iraq, he actually means it.

He’s not a spineless surrender monkey, part time war mongers when it’s safe, “support the troops” until you can stab them in the back, like you pacifists are.

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