Mike Luckovich

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 27, 2006 07:59 AM | Link to this

Now I know why cartoon boy thinks Steve Chapman is a “conservative,” he won’t lie:

A report by the Texas Department of Public Safety found that in a state with more than 200,000 people licensed to carry guns, only 180 were convicted of crimes in 2001, and most of those crimes didn’t involve firearms. Only one licensee was convicted of murder. Florida, which has nearly 400,000 permit holders, revoked only 330 licenses last year — about one out of every 1,200.

Just plain simple facts that the left would rather you didn’t have.

Merry Christmas!

The Washington Post must be “conservative” too:

Needed: A Big Stick Iran and Syria are waging war in the Middle East. Will the West fight back? Iran and Syria are ruthlessly waging war against Western interests in the Middle East. Offering to talk is only a small part of what it will take to stop them.

Merry Christmas!

Perhaps part of the newspaper industry’s current problem stems from its inclination to print not what its patrons need in a fashion they have time to read and digest but to publish for prize judges. One major East Coast newspaper spent so much energy winning Pulitzer Prizes with longwinded exposes at the expense of the kind of news its community needed that it lost much of its audience and its circulation dropped by half.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 27, 2006 08:00 AM | Link to this

The scientific issues are subtle and were never resolved by the Circuit Court; but they are essential to any sound decision. Scientists on all sides agree that CO2 levels are increasing — and that there has been an upward trend in temperature since 1976. But this hardly proves the existence of man-made global warming. Temperatures were rising before 1940 — most likely because of natural climate factors. And there was cooling until 1975 while CO2 levels rose rapidly. Further, published analyses cannot identify a significant human component in current warming. Next: Is climate warming good or bad? Would a colder climate be better? Not likely. Some economists argue that a modest warming would improve economic growth and raise average incomes. And finally, can emissions be reduced sufficiently to stabilize CO2 levels? Realistically, the answer must be: No. It would require a roughly 70 percent reduction from 1990 emission levels by all nations, including China and India.

Merry Christmas!

Those who genuinely object to what Richards said are not contradicting themselves if they also abhor how the victim mentality and its representatives swoop down instantly, like buzzards picking the carrion apart before the blood has dried.

Merry Christmas!

One interesting proposal by Sperling is for a “universal 401(k),” which would give all workers tax-sheltered savings accounts, funded by employers and employees. It’s a proposal that looks a lot like the Social Security individual investment accounts George W. Bush called for, and Democrats scorned. It would be ironic if this turns out to be the major progressive achievement of this Democratic Congress.

By I Voted for the War But Would Never Fight

November 27, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this

I’m just plain too scared!

I am a little nancy of a man, a cowardly little poof.

I do toss a mean salad, though, sailor. Ummm, ummm good!

By I Voted for the War Because I'm a Chickenhawk

November 27, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

This cartoon sucks.

But then, so do I.

By @@

November 27, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

Oh my gosh ml. You’ve got Santa and his elves cloning Mexicans to work in the valley.

Disgusting, just disgusting.

By N-GA

November 27, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

I decided to try to read Lying Andy’s (the Bed Wetter’s) rant, but only made it thru the first POS part of his/her post.

He/she would have you believe that Democrats/liberals/leftists don’t want you to have a gun. That is not the case at all but Lying Andy is too much of a liar to admit it.

We want to license firearms, eliminate assault weapons, and keep firearms out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people. Of course there are a few extremists at both ends of this debate. Lying Andy represents the fascist side.

So read no more of Lying Andy’s posts if you want to read the straight truth. Lying Andy does everything he can to twist the truth. He is a hater. He IS NOT a Christian…he is a disciple of Satan poorly disguised as a believer.

By Brian Curtis

November 27, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

I’m not seeing Luckovich’s point on this one. Newly approved breast implants will be on many women’s Christmas lists this year… so what?

It’s hardly a tragedy, or even a serious problem.

By I Voted for the War Because I'm a Chickenhawk

November 27, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this

I’m a coward, so I do own several guns.

I use them mainly as sex toys.

By I Voted For The War But I Want Someone Else to Fight So I Can Blog

November 27, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

The president was in a funk. Morose from midterm elections that handed Congress to the opposition, he stewed in private, vented to friends, turned on aides and summoned self-help gurus to help him understand just what went wrong. He was left to argue with reporters that he was still “relevant.”

By N-GA

November 27, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

I suspect ML is commenting on the fact that for years the issue of silicone implants causing serious health problems has been fought in the courts. Medical “experts” have testified for both sides, some saying that the implants were very dangerous.

So now the FDA says they are okay. Quite frankly I feel that anyong getting silicon implants should be required to sign a waiver of their right to sue the manufacturers of these implants.

By Proud Pinko Liberal

November 27, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

A funny thing happened during this past election cycle: the quality of the national debate about Iraq actually improved.

Candidates, especially Republicans, had to recognize and reflect, to a much greater extent than was true before campaigns heated up, the views of the public. On Iraq, the country has long been ahead of its politicians, and it took an election for politicians to follow the lead of their constituents. Dems were mostly there, and were rewarded for it; Republicans, conversely, had to contort to deal with the ground truth and were punished for being so far outside the mainstream for so long.

A majority of the American public realizes that Iraq is a disaster, and, recognizing that U.S. troops are not improving things, want redeployment to begin. A majority of the U.S. House and Senate shares that view, and virtually all Middle East and military experts (not pundits, but actual experts in the relevant fields) believe the situation requires significant changes in U.S. policy.

So why did I have to read an article yesterday about how the Iraq Study Group “was deliberately skewed toward a centrist course for Iraq, participants said. Organizers avoided experts with extreme views on either side of the Iraq war debate”? At this point, I don’t even know what an “extreme” view is, and the article doesn’t specify, but it seems to imply that near-term redeployment fits in that category.

To me, the McCain plan — adding 20,000 troops, which has support from, for example, Senator Cornyn (R-TX) — is the most extreme option being considered. You wouldn’t know it from the professional pundit commentary, but a whopping … eight percent of Americans support sending more U.S. troops to Iraq (and that was six months ago! I couldn’t find a more recent poll number on increasing forces).

As for plans that actually have mainstream support, the numbers couldn’t be any more clear: a majority of Americans want all U.S. forces out within a year. Now, whether that’s good policy can be debated by reasonable people — but it’s not an “extreme” position! It’s not a “liberal” position, and it’s certainly not a position that should have been dismissed out of hand by the Iraq Study Group in its effort to be “centrist.” Why the ISG is even concerned with being centrist, rather than, y’know, being ho

By @@

November 27, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

N-GA is advocating censorship and he calls Andy a fascist?

What’s wrong with this picture?

Not yours ml. Today your artwork is very good. Very good indeed.

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

Clearly you have a selective reading problem. Andy’s first post, a piece that debunks the myth that gun ownership is dangerous (and which was not a rant) included this paragraph which you chose to ignore:

So imagine their alarm at a bill recently introduced in Congress that would allow people with concealed-carry permits take weapons into their home state’s national parks. The indefatigably anti-gun New York Times warned that the measure is a step toward “nationalizing the armed paranoia that the National Rifle Association and its cohorts stand for” and “can only endanger the public.”

Please reconcile for us the blatant contradiction of your claim that Dems are really pro-gun ownership (with just a few eensy weensy regulations) versus the position of the New York Times - the Liberal Left’s standard bearer on issues - which is clearly not railing against proposals to legalize assualt weapons in our national parks, but is scare-mongering over a proposal to carry any guns at all.

Thanks in advance.

By @@

November 27, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Oh, btw ml. It looks like you’ve already given that elf in the doorway a couple of huge casabas.

So what’s up with that? Is he a woman with a mustache or a man with melons?

I’m confused.

By SarahConnah

November 27, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

Hey President Bobblehead! There was a new seasoning making its debut in England recently. Try some on your possum burgers.

Curtsie!

By @@

November 27, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish:

I think N-GA gets out of bed with “rants” in his pants.

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Thank you for your excellent links to thoughtful and informative information.

I found this story very interesting, particularly as a contrast to the Pulitzer Patriot whose cartoons decorate this blog.

I cannot fail to notice the courage of the BBC reporter versus the newspapers in America, including the AJC, who were too cowed by fear to publish the benign Danish cartoons, thereby sparing most Americans from another chapter in the truth about IslamoFanaticism.

By getalife

November 27, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

Mark Steyn is a sad, middle-aged loser guy

No wonder Andy loves this poor guy.

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

@@,

That’s brilliant! He has rants in his pants and he is “lying” on the wrong side of the bed.

By Midori

November 27, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

I’m way ahead of you - I figured it out some time ago

{{{{{Lying Andy does everything he can to twist the truth. He is a hater. He IS NOT a Christian…he is a disciple of Satan poorly disguised as a believer.}}}}}

All he does is spew hate and venom. And then his moron ladies in waiting show up to provide him with a skirt to hide behind.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 27, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

What a stroke, just lucky you were here at the same time, huh NG-A?:

By I Voted for the War Because I’m a Chickenhawk November 27, 2006 08:26 AM This cartoon sucks. But then, so do I.

By N-GA November 27, 2006 08:40 AM I decided to try to read Lying Andy’s (the Bed Wetter’s) rant, but only made it thru the first POS part of his/her post.

What a wanker.

By NightTrain

November 27, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

N-GA, Let’s look at the Free Speech from your point of view of gun ownership. You want to “license firearms, eliminate assault weapons, and keep firearms out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people.”

Let’s apply that same logic to Free Speech. You are allowed to say anything you wish, as long as no one is offended by your free speech (have to eliminate any assaulting words). Also, you must register with the local police before you can utter any comments (hey you got to have a license to exercise what the Bill of Rights grants you.) Oh and that speeding ticket you got last year, you are now a criminal so no more free speech for you. But don’t complain, I really do think you have the right to Free Speech; I just want to control what you can say to protect the general population.

As far as the Second Amendment, why should I need to register my firearms? Where does the 2nd amendment specify what “arms” you can and can not have? As for the criminal and mentally ill, if they are a danger to society why are they not in jail? If they have been released from either prison or the nut house they must not pose a threat any more, right?

Take away all their firearms and force them to attend government schools, sound familiar? This sounds a lot like Germany’s laws prior to WWII.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 27, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

You want to see obsession defined:

By N-GA {{{{{{April 4, 2006}}}}} 08:10 AM Is the Bed Wetter talking to me again? After he said he would never respond to me again? What a flip-flopper. I bet you {{{{yellow}}}} your boxers twice tonight.

And:

By I Voted for the War Even Though I’m Yellow November 23, 2006 08:14 AM I am a silly cowardly drunk chickenhawk, and I love George Bush. Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow Luckovich Losers. They’re {{{{{{yellow}}}}} too, cowards all.

What a loser.

Coward.

By @@

November 27, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

O.K., here’s “more on” Midori, perching herself “somewhere” on a N-GA goat, blowing “sweet nothings” in his ear?

A dingleberry?

By N-GA

November 27, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

I am a highly decorated war hero and nearly received the Gold Star Order from Ho Chi Minh himself, so you have no right to speak in my presence.

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

Okay, let me see if I have this straight. Because Mark Steyn is not Adonis - (like that fat-thighed and unathletic Bill Clinton - who looked remarkably like Steyn in his vacationing in Moscow days) his brilliant analyses of events is to be discounted?

Because he regrets that stupid but talented celebrities ruin things by voicing their incredibly inane opinions, we should pay no attention to what he has to say?

And despite that idiot blogger’s claims, there is nothing in that story about the Episcopal Bishop that says that Episcopalians are opposed to SEX. They are just opposed to Episcopalians having CHILDREN - presumably because we need to be altruistic and leave room on the planet for aggrieved IslamFanatics who, the Bishop would us believe, have been unceasingly tortured by Christians since the days of Charlemagne.

BTW, Can anyone explain to me why this Bishop voluntarily chose to be a representative of Episcopalians and Christians if she is so filled with loathing over its history?

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 27, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

However cute 10:13 is, it wasn’t mine.

I don’t do name jacking.

It’s too liberal for me.

By getalife

November 27, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

Finally, a politician telling the truth on Iraq

By N-GA

November 27, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

NightTrain,

By post has nothing to do with the first amendment. And the second amendment was written before machine guns were invented.

My attitude towards free speech is this: You can say/protest whatever & however you want as long as it does not infringe upon my right to “life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness”. To provide an example: People can oppose abortion, but as long as it is legal then protest it in front of a legislative or judicial body. If you protest in front of an “abortion” doctor’s house, you violate his inalienable rights, even if you are not on his property. I feel the same way if the protests are conducted near an abortion clinic.

The Constitution says nothing about driver’s licenses, pollution controls, marijuana and a whole lot of other things, so don’t bother going there.

@@ & bi-Danish: You are herd cows with thick ankles. You were probably the first to sue the manufacturers of silicone implants.

By N-GA

November 27, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

That 10:02 will be the funniest post of the day….Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter) calling someone else a coward. Very rich!! And he continues to attribute the posts of others to me…how demented he is. Truly obsessed.

It must be difficult for him sitting there bare-butt naked blogging away. Both his diapers are in the laundry because he had a bad night. He denies being the author of the 10:13, so which brave little wing-nut did post it. We’ll never know because they are too afraid to own up to it…typical.

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

N-GA (idiot goat herder)

You admit to being the expert on herding!

But you know nothing about my ankles or anything else about my physical attributes.

What a freaking moron.

By getalife

November 27, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

Yes, Andy is no Christian.

Its all that hate he reads and believes.

His mindset is ugly and demented.

Poor guy needs help desperately but is in denial and will never admit he has a hate problem.

Hate breeds hate.

By @@

November 27, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this

N-GA, your expertise has faltered. And here I thought goats were sure-footed.

I am naturally well-endowed.

You, on the other hoof, can only dream about it while “lying” on your bed of nails (compliments of Andy) with “rants” in your pants.

Ants are very tiny little insects. Teeny weeny!

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

N-GA (Goat Herder),

I forgot to mention - it is UNalienable rights not INalienable.

Small matter - it’s only a word from one of the most important sentences in one of the most important documents ever conceived by man.

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

Hmmmmmm. Andy began the day posting some very thoughtful articles without much editorial comment, except for “Merry Christmas”!

N-GA the ignorant goat herder jumps in with a rant about Andy that tediously claims that he is a lying POS bed-wetter (have I heard that before?) and is really Satan. He then draws a false conclusion from the one article he claims to have taken the time to read.

Now N-GA is going into gross details about what happens when people wet their bed and all sorts of illuminating insights into his vulgar and boorish nature.

From this evidence we are to deduce that ANDY is the “hater”?

By N-GA

November 27, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

@@,

What “it” is, “it” is definitely not you. BTW, do you get a rash when Lying Andy wets the bed?

By NightTrain

November 27, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

The Constitution DOES say a lot about my right to keep and bear arms but I can not find one word about registering them with the government or telling me what type of arms I can have. I’m not sure what when machine guns were invented has to do with this but I think that cannons and other types of arms were around at that time. Computers were not around when the Constitution was written so, by your logic, I guess Free Electronic (Radio, TV, Internet) Speech is not protected.

You want to restrict what I can and can not do but yet, when someone applies your misguided logic to another “right” you claim it’s different.

Amendment 10 (X) does say something about Drivers Licenses, Pollution Controls, Marijuana and a whole lot of other things. It states that the Federal government has no say in these things. However, our federal government, like so many of the ill informed people (public school graduates) think that we should give up our rights for a little perceived safety.

Your logic is flawed and your wish for the government to control all aspects of your life is shinning through.

By N-GA

November 27, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

I can see, bi-Danish, that you can only nit-pick. But you avoid the meat of the debate…typical airhead.

By N-GA

November 27, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

Wing-nuts…have a jolly good time flogging me while I step away for the day. I’ll return later…

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

@@,

I think those rants in N-GAs pants are probably from fleas and not ants.

Goats suffer from fleas, “goat sucking louse”, “nose bot fly” and other nasty parasites and his career as a goat herder would easily leave him vulnerable to them.

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

N-GA (parasite infested goat herder)

You would be an expert on nit-picking now, wouldn’t you!

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

“Computers were not around when the Constitution was written so, by your logic, I guess Free Electronic (Radio, TV, Internet) Speech is not protected.”

Night Train,

Great point.

By @@

November 27, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

N-GA:

“It” is your lack of endowment although you would have us believe that it is massive.

Like I said, it’s likely a teeny weeny endowment which irritates you to the point of “rash” comments straight out of bed and onto the board where Andy tortures you.

Obviously, it’s the night sweats you experience which contributes to the rash.

Take a powder.

Make it “Gold Bond” Mr. Moneybags.

By NG-A

November 27, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

I got some serious catching up to do. I hate the holiday’s because all my relatives come around and invade my private space. Now that they are gone, it’s time for me and the daughter to get “caught up.”

I couldn’t have all that hollering going on with her grandfolks here, if you know what I mean.

By (o)(o)

November 27, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

zzzzz

By @@

November 27, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

Well “shoot”, N-GA took away my fun too.

And here I had my verbal “assault weapon” locked and loaded.

I don’t shoot at decoys, like the one who posted at 11:19 which wasn’t Andy btw, but rather a Liberal suffering from lockjaw.

By (o)(o)

November 27, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

(o)

By Keith Lynch

November 27, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this

Dear Readers, my name is Keith Lynch and I would like to thank the public for your support in not only your purchase of my book but also your prayers. I would like to also wish you a happy holiday season, but for me I cannot celebrate while my family is still in so much turmoil. This part of the year is especially depressing for me and I will fast for JUSTICE while here in Chicago. Please pray for my family and me that God will bring us back together and give us justice. I will place quotes from the Bible to express what I believe happens to people who are taken advantage of by the judicial system.

Log onto www.kllundypublishingllc.com and review the injustice, which befallen my family and me at the hands of law enforcement and public officials in Dekalb County, Decatur, Georgia. Ask officials to comment on the accusations.

Keith Lynch

By nuff-said

November 27, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

Chicken-Hawk republicans, buck-buck-buuuuuck, combat cowards send others to fight their bogus wars. The ship is now deserting the sinking rat. Ken “cakewalk” Adelman now blames Bush incompetence for the Iraq quagmire along with Perlman, Wolfowitz, Will, Bartlett, Friedman, Buckley and others. Buck, buck, buuuuuuck!

By Brian Curtis

November 27, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

What the heck was that???

And, about the original cartoon, I again ask: What’s the point there? That people will want silicone implants?

So frickin’ WHAT?

By Diogenes

November 27, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

Mike,

It’s a funny cartoon, reminiscent of something one might have seen in Playboy magazine in the late 60’s with just as much satirical bite as it would have had then. Even though one sees the emaciated models today, I suppose the desire for big boobs is just as great as it was in the 60’s. Well done.

By more-said

November 27, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

duh, duh, duh, we liberals are once again cutting and running from a war just when the men would have stood up and proved their courage. Since liberals are all gay now, it’s time for us to run shreiking from Iraq and leave the people to the mass murderers. Such awe inspiring bravery, our enemies will probably never mess with us now.

By Truthman

November 27, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

So how many copies of “My Pet Goat” and how many crayons will $500 million buy for the Chimperor’s “Library?”

“Chimperor” and “Presidential Library”…obviously the newest oxymoron with emphasis on “Moron!”

By nuff-said

November 27, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

As I was saying….combat cowards.

By more-said

November 27, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

nuffie: In the goofy liberal world you live in, can you imagine old folks in wheel chairs being pushed into combat?

Maybe suicide baby strollers?

Handicaps with their mouths duct taped shut so that they can’t say that they want the United States to be protected from Islamic killers?

You think you’re making a point by calling people “chickenhawks” but all I see is someone making a total a-ss out of themselves.

By Paul

November 27, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

Diogenes

Reminds me of the joke:

Anyone know how to make five pounds of fat look attractive?

Put a nipple on it.

By RW-(the original)

November 27, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

What do you suppose the implants that end up on the Island of Misfit Toys would look like?

By @@

November 27, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

O.K., it’s been slow in here today. Let’s take this one step further…No, let’s not…Yes, let’s do…No let’s not.

Five pounds of fat.

Heavy cream in a babe bottle.

Where’s Big Daddy when you need him?

Whoops, that’s him on my shoulder.

By nuff-said

November 27, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this

Nobody cares about the dead in Iraq except their families and vets. Nobody cares about the Iraq War. It’s passe’. Old news. America is too busy shopping.

By @@

November 27, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

Oops! Big Daddy would never let cream curdle like I just did. He would have lightened it up with a little air.

A momentary fall from grace.

So sorry, I let him down.

By Dubya

November 27, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

Just a Monday reminder. We’re winning. Democracy and Freedom and good Murcun-style Christian values are just roarin thru the world like wildfire. Calmin folks and making new friends everwhere. Mishun complished! God bless Bushie and Murcuh too. Gonna need it.

By Slim

November 27, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

N.GA: Don’t worry, you haven’t missed anything. The same gutless freaks are here, trying to insult you. They try to insult, but just can’t pull it off. These are good days for neoslime.

By I Voted for War But Can't Serve Because I'm Still on the Nipple

November 27, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

RW’s manboobies.

So I get a little hair with my food.

By Republican Fat Assses

November 27, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this

Study: Fat people tend to vote Republican

If ‘do-nothing’ Republicans would ever stop stuffing their faces with payola, get real jobs doing real work, or if they actually fought the wars they started maybe their assses wouldn’t be so ‘well-endowed’ ! ! !

By RW-(the original)

November 27, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this

RFA,

Even the DUmmies weren’t impressed with that story.

By Goldie

November 27, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Something you trolls can look forward to — raising a HALF BILLION DOLLARS for your guy and his so-called “legacy”:

President Bush and his truest believers are about to launch their final campaign - an eye-popping, half-billion-dollar drive for the Bush presidential library

I can just see all the propaganda on the walls now…

By Republican Family Values

November 27, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

With the release of a new report from the Centers for Disease Control about syphillis infections in the United States, I had the chance to do check and see whether the righteous red states really have STDs in hand.

Looking at the report, a couple of statistics jumped out at me.

Texas, the right wing home of the Republicans who control the federal government, had a rate of syphillis infections of 3 per 100,000 in 2003. That’s 20 percent higher than the national average.

Vermont, on the other hand, that bastion of stubborn liberal idealism, had a rate of syphillis infections of only .2 per 100,000.

The rate of syphillis infections in Texas is 15 times higher than it is in Vermont.

Republicans are just plain NASTY. I wouldn’t screw one with King George’s dick ! ! !

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

RW/@@,

Look! There is a market for these silicone implants. A dying soap opera will introduce a trans-gendered character - a perfect advertising vehicle.

Can we call it “All My (village)Children”?

After Zarf establishes a bond with Bianca that leads to the kiss, an angry Bianca tells him she’s a lesbian. It triggers something within Zarf about why it made such sense to be falling in love with a lesbian.

It’s not clear, Carruthers said, whether “All My Children” will stick with the Zarf character through any surgery; one suspects the reaction of the soap’s audience to the story will have a lot to do with it.

“She talks about peace so much,” Carlson said of his character. “I hope that she finds some peace.”

There’s even something in it for Goldie! Yay!

By RW-(the original)

November 27, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this

Then you have your Democrat Family Values:

A Democrat community leader who would “offer a homily during worship services” and facilitated his congregation’s “opening our doors to all people regardless of sexual orientation” has been given a slap on the hand after pleading guilty to extensive child pornography offenses involving children as young as six.

If this guy was a Republican you would have seen him 24/7 this weekend.

By RW-(the original)

November 27, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

This might be a more telling excerpt:

However, instead of the 967 months in jail – nearly 81 years – for which he was liable, Judge Robert Lewis, another Democrat, gave him, in a plea bargain with the office of District Attorney Ron Moore, who was elected as a Democrat, a 10-12 month sentence.

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

RW,

I’m glad you posted that. I meant to post it last week but got distracted by Diogenes et al.

Isn’t it amazing how they disregard the fact that this disgusting creep is a child pornographer because he was such a compassionate pervert and helped the League of Women Voters and the symphony!

Damn! Look how easy it is to get away with exploiting children!

Pay attention pervs. It’s really easy to get off (no pun intended) if you just donate time and money to approved Liberal causes.

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

RFA,

Hillary’s prospects are looking dimmer and dimmer. She has the fattest a* of all AND those thick ankles that N-GA remarked about earlier. I guess that must be the fault of her Republican father who passed on the fat gene to her (and her even grossly fatter brother).

Why if only Jerry Nadler had been her father she’d be trim as Condi Rice!

By getalife

November 27, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

I can’t wait to go into w’s library stinking drunk and puke all over the place.

Like Daddy in Japan.

You mean like Foley BD?

By Paul

November 27, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

I’ll get on my O’Reilly soapbox again - I can overlook a whole lot of stuff with him but the work he does to get Jessica’s Law (mandatory sentences for child predators) and calling judges and DA’s to task is what sets him apart.

Read an article a week or so ago - Texas - the state known in Blue States as the bloodthirsty, execution of criminals state is on the leading edge of punishment/treatment for child sex offenders. Granted, a lot of the offenders were sentenced for looking at child porn - not the rapists, etc - but Texas has prison, counseling with special counselors (3000 hours to certification after the initial 2000 hours) mandatory lie detector tests, heavily supervised probation, etc. Their recidivism rate is 13 percent - I think it said the general criminal population has about a 65 percent relapse.

In Texas. Which is why Neolibs will dismiss it. And continue with the sentences you just gave.

By Midori

November 27, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

so now the wing nuts are resorting to deciding one’s intelligence and fitness for the oval office by the size of their rear and ankles?

good thing Rush isn’t in the running, eh?

By Goldie

November 27, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this

Midori— we all know that Limbaugh is still a big fat idiot, even after supposedly losing some weight. He and KKKarl Rover have some kind of ugly fat genes happening!

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 27, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this

By Republican Family Values November 27, 2006 02:17 PM Republicans are just plain NASTY. I wouldn’t screw one with King George’s dick ! ! !

AntiRadical: I know, if you screwed anything it be a child in Thailand.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 27, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

Alright, so what would NG-A’s daughter be “hollering” about?

If it’s what I think it is, you are one sick puppy, Stroker.

By Goldie

November 27, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this

Bill “Oh Why Didn’t I Fact-check” O’Reilly is just darn tired of Iraqis fighting each other — why don’t they just behave:

“I think the Iraqis have got to step up and at least try to fight for their democracy, instead of being this crazy country of Shiia against Sunni — I don’t ever want to hear Shiia and Sunni again.”

I’m sure they’re all listening to your opinion every night, Billy Boy!

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Pay attention. That idea was proposed by N-GA, who deduced that @@ and I have thick ankles, and RFA who quoted a study that claims that fat people vote for Republicans.

So that means that the idea is a Democrat one. Glad you a smart enough to see the folly in it.

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

getalife,

If a Democrat Congressman was accused of the same thing that Foley was accused of (emailing and IMing pages), but that Democrat was associated with approved Liberal causes, he would get off - and further - he would be praised for his compassion.

Keep in mind that the person that RW sighted was a child pornographer.

Get it, Getalife?

By Paul

November 27, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

It never ends. Here’s just one more example of US forces screwing up the natural order of things in Iraq.

Link: http://www.therantshack.com/2006/10/23/comforting-embrace-via-the-usaf/

BTW - reread the section about how the enlightened Moslem insurgents treat infants.

By getalife

November 27, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

Yes, I get it BD

By N-GA

November 27, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

Interesting posts today. I wonder what Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter) means when he talks about my daughterMust not be anything nice.

I’ve figured out why he addresses me as NG-A. That’s the only way he can use the “N” word and think he can get away with it. What a pathetic peckerwood. He doesn’t even try to hide his racism.

But all you wing-nut women like that kind of man. Ya’ll have more tatoos than teeth….heh, heh

By N-GA

November 27, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

That would be “tattoos”.

By Paul

November 27, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

Hello, N-GA

Just catching up on a few things here.

At 8:40 you wrote: We want to license firearms, eliminate assault weapons, and keep firearms out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people. Of course there are a few extremists at both ends of this debate.

Have you ever had anyone (not the extremists) object to any of that?

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 27, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

Alright, maybe the Stroker went off in his “millionaire” “war hero” fantasy world and doesn’t remember posting this:

By NG-A November 27, 2006 11:19 AM I got some serious catching up to do. I hate the holiday’s because all my relatives come around and invade my private space. Now that they are gone, it’s time for me and the daughter to get “caught up.” I couldn’t have all that hollering going on with her grandfolks here, if you know what I mean.

That’s some sicko, weird, depraved perverted bullsh-it were talking now.

I had a feeling it was coming to this, it’s all my fault. I can’t hold a decent debate with these liberals with out them going off the deep end. I’ve put one or two of them in the funny farm, a few are anti social and bitter as hell (Hi getalife!) and the rest of them have devoted every waking hour to stalking me.

Think about it, if you were a professional Andy obsesser, posting about my urinary habits at 8:00 am and ending your day with some post about my pecker with absolutely no effect on me, wouldn’t the next psychotic idea in your head be to start molesting your daughter?

Look, I can’t have this on my conscious. If anybody knows this mofo, please call the local law enforcement agencies, or even child protective services, this has to be stopped now!

Please!

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

Woops, that should have said, “the person that RW cited”.

Getlife,

Wow, you slay me with your fabulously illuminating links.

What does Bush have to do with a pervert child pornographer who got off because he was such a wonderful activist?

N-GA,

Maybe you could share with us why “NG-A” is racist but “N-GA” is not. That hyphen must hold a lot of meaning for you.

Then you can tell us if you think that this is “racist”.

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I know it’s hard to tell the difference but I think that that post was someone who jacked N-GA’s name and signed in as NG-A, which N-GA tells us is racist!

By Buy Danish

November 27, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Sorry to intrude, but N-GA has still not answered my challenge to that question from this morning.

The answer is YES! As I stated earlier, the New York Times objects to that and doesn’t want any firearms in our national parks.

Read the article cited above from my link - an article N-GA claims to have read.

By Today's Bumper Sticker

November 27, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

Ban Neo-Cons From Our National Parks

By John Wilkes Bluetooth

November 27, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

BUY DANISH: you R posting WAY TOO MUCH!

Stop. You’re obviously insane. Nobody give a Gdmn about your perpetual opinion.

You are a troll. A horrid, stinking POS troll. You and andy and the whole cadre of trolls are ruining this blog. Nobody even reads the blog because of you. Now please remove your carcas from the premises. And take your trolls with you.

Sign, John Wilkes Bluetooth-Troll Assassin

Have mouse will surf.

Sic Semper Trollanus

By Laugh Factory Mgmt.

November 27, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

Due to requests from Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the NAACP, effective immediately, the words honkie and cracker will not be allowed.

By Sandy

November 27, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Great idea, Scott. Let the relatives of the cowards who support Bush be the ones who remain forever in Iraq. Or maybe they can move over into Iran and try fighting a real army for a change. The Chimp will teach them some of his winning techniques.

By Midori

November 27, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

is it me, or does he get fatter with each divorce?

at this rate, he’ll look like the Goodyear Blimp after he’s done with wife number 5. you know she is somewhere waiting in the wings.

hint: Buy Danish.

By Bill

November 27, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

Oh, I VOTED: You are such a tough, tough little thang. Tough talking while hiding in Mommie’s closet. n you jes luv them pickups and SUVs. Makes you feel like a…what? N yer gangsta duds and cap and thongs. Lookin fer masculinity in all the wrong places. Never, ever gonna find it. Bet you got a shaved head too. I’d stick that in a place that would give you 3 cheeks. Jus keep on jerkin, Rodent Boy. If ever you find a brain or some guts, that’s where you’ll find em. Life don’t git no bettern this fer you hilljacks, do it? Hot damn!

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 27, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this

By John Wilkes Bluetooth November 27, 2006 05:29 PM You are a troll. A horrid, stinking POS troll. You and andy and the whole cadre of trolls are ruining this blog.

Oh, the wittle wibbies don’t wike what we’re saying, how sad, how awful!:

VLADIMIR BUKOVSKY & PAVEL STROILOV: Ted Kennedy was a useful idiot to the Soviet end. All these facts are probably well-known to those who follow such matters. Serious questions about Kennedy’s role in the Cold War have been asked more than once before. From time to time, some bits of his mysterious story are revealed — only to demonstrate that much more of it still remains in darkness.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 27, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

By Bill November 27, 2006 06:24 PM Oh, I VOTED: You are such a tough, tough little thang.

Question: Which one of us is talking sh-it to a person that can’t break their teeth out for them?

This is the metrosexual’s idea of bravery?

P.S. If I want to score, loser, I take clothes off.

You spend your days worried about what you look like, little que-er eye for the homo guy, sister.

By N-GA

November 27, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

Hey Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter),

I posted NOTHING about my daughter. It would appear to be your post using NG-A you POS. You’re not only obsessed with me, but you’re obsessed with my daughter. You’ve been caught!!!!!

Now everyone knows you for what you are. A LOSER!!!

Paul….I’ll need to get back to you. I’m not in the right frame of mind to respond to your question at this time.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 27, 2006 07:05 PM | Link to this

By N-GA November 27, 2006 06:47 PM I posted NOTHING about my daughter. It would appear to be your post using NG-A you POS.

By N-GA November 27, 2006 10:32 AM That 10:02 will be the funniest post of the day….Lying Andy continues to attribute the posts of others to me…how demented he is. Truly obsessed.

You want to talk about obsessed, now you are blaming your sick a-ss abuse of your daughter on me?

Seek help, you weird mofo.

Leave that woman alone!

By @@

November 27, 2006 07:06 PM | Link to this

Good grief N-GA. Look at this list of names.

Nuff said Truthman Dubya Slim I Voted for War But Can’t Serve Because I’m Still on the Nipple Republican Fat Asses Today’s Bumper Sticker John Wilkes Bluetooth Sandy Bill

Your namejacker is within that list of liberal lockjaws.

By RW-(the original)

November 27, 2006 07:06 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

Paul asked you a yes or no question, I would think that even if you spent the whole day drinking the last drop out of all the beer cans you were out collecting you would be capable of a simple yes or no.

Frankly I liked the part of the day when nobody was talking to you so you invented “Slim” to claim everyone was. Sad pathetic old goat.

Diogenes,

I thought you were supposed to give me a list of the fairy tales you get your “knowledge” from today.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 08:00 AM | Link to this

Dr. Weinberg’s quote from his book The First Three Minutes, where he says “the more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it also seems pointless,” has been repeatedly cited, scrutinized, analyzed, and dissected, because it encapsulates the bleak eternity that the godless face. It’s sad that these intelligent minds look at the same world that believers do, yet fail to recognize the orderliness that demands a Creator. The nature they worship and material they observe is the proof of a Force beyond their vision and for eternal life. Yet as Paul wrote, the Spirit is absent from them and thus, hope.

Merry Christmas!

Newsweek!!- Study Predicts Extreme Weather Changes, blah, blah, blah

Red meat for the morons.

Merry Christmas!

If we’re going to “out” hypocrites, let’s go all the way. If a congressman opposes school choice for his poorer constituents while sending his own kids to private schools, let’s “out” him. If a politician or celebrity complains our taxes aren’t high enough while he hires the most aggressive accountants to minimize his own taxes, or takes questionable deductions to do the same, by all means, let’s “out” him. Minimum wage? Illegal immigration? Does their public stand match their private actions when it comes to their own domestic help? If not, “out” ’em. What about those who want to legislate diversity in our schools and clubs and organizations and work places? Great, but let’s check out their offices and club memberships and circles of acquaintance and make sure they don’t need to be “outed” as well. Let’s take a close look at our rich members of Congress (and there are a lot of them) who speak out about a middle class crisis, and let’s be sure they (and their family business entities) treat all their employees with the same generosity they would demand of others (salary, benefits, health care, etc.). Otherwise, “out” they go!

Merry Christmas!

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 08:00 AM | Link to this

The Real Idiot:

There has been an admirable absence of chivalry in assessments of Nancy Pelosi’s stumbling steps toward the speakership. She dismayed colleagues by saying that in order for her to be an effective leader she needed John Murtha as majority leader. Try to imagine Speaker Sam Rayburn confessing such dependency. And a columnist in The Economist says that “often she talks drivel” (the speaker’s gavel “is in the hands of special interests, and now it will be in the hands of America’s children”) couched in “clumsy alliteration” (Democrats have “idealism, intellect and integrity.”) Says the columnist, “It’s like listening to a cross between a Stepford wife and Jesse Jackson.” Or like listening to Rumpelstiltskin discuss economics: Pelosi sees increased taxes on oil companies as part of a program of “energy independence.”

Merry Christmas!

Just the facts, jack:

People who identify themselves as conservatives donate money to charity more often than people who identify themselves as liberals. They donate more money and a higher percentage of their incomes. It is not that conservatives have more money. Liberal families average 6 percent higher incomes than conservative families. So is the fact that most of the states that voted for John Kerry during the 2004 election donated a lower percentage of their incomes to charity than the states that voted for George W. Bush.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 08:01 AM | Link to this

CHICAGO (AP) - A public Christmas festival is no place for the Christmas story, the city says. Officials have asked organizers of a downtown Christmas festival, the German Christkindlmarket, to reconsider using a movie studio as a sponsor because it is worried ads for its film “The Nativity Story” might offend non-Christians.

Merry Christmas!

But these naive people do not appreciate that America will not change the attitude of a single American-hating Muslim by allowing Ellison to substitute the Koran for the Bible. In fact, the opposite is more likely: Ellison’s doing so will embolden Islamic extremists and make new ones, as Islamists, rightly or wrongly, see the first sign of the realization of their greatest goal — the Islamicization of America.

Merry Christmas!

There’s more to gun control with these libs than meets the eye; they don’t want you to protect yourself from killers:

A pizza delivery man says he was defending himself from a robbery opens fire; A 14 year old is dead!

Never mind that the lady had time to get her cannon and shoot 3 cops; the AJC wonders why she’s dead:

Police lied, informant says- “The informant said he had no knowledge of going into that house and purchasing drugs,” Pennington said. “We don’t know if he’s telling the truth.”

Of course the Atlanta Urinal takes the word of a scumbag as God, what with them being scumbags and all.

Merry Christmas!

By @@

November 28, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this

No new cartoon ml? Ho Hmmmmmmmm!

Andy: You’re Human Events link on outing hypocrites. Words are cheap, deeds hold value. It kind of makes you wonder why liberals think conservatives are just a bunch of stingy SOBs, doesn’t it? John Stossel is doing an expose for 20/20 on the subject.

Thanks for the link late yesterday on Ted Kennedy. When I first stumbled onto that revelation, it was just a snippet. Your link was far more revealing.

We can put three “traitors” in the (D) column. Rockefeller (Iraq war), Kennedy (The Cold War), and Kerry (The Vietnam War).

It’s unbelievable what the liberals will tolerate in their representatives.

By Dandy

November 28, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

Americans shoot home invaders. Sometimes we chase them outside our home and shoot them, even in their getaway cars. If we perceive a threat, we have carte blanche to shoot at anyone in or near our home. It’s the law.

Now most perceived threats are delusions. Usually, we kill acquaintances who happened by unexpectedly. Family members are cannon fodder. Check the record. “I thought it was a armed jihadist ninja turtle guy trying to steal my commemorative elvis collection….so I shot my five year old daughter”.

Americans are handgun pitbulls from hell. Wear protection when you visit family for the big christmas party especially if you arrive unexpectedly early or late. Americans. They shoot at the darndest things.

By Dandy

November 28, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

The traitors are Rummy (afghanistan foot dragging), cheney (saudi pandering), and W (every move he’s made).

The trolls are @@ (tries too hard), andy (swallows), and sell dunkin’, (spits).

The true American Heroes are obvious: pelosi, hillary, obama, and me.

Who am I? I’m every american who fights fascism, cronyism, and the neo-newts.

By @@

November 28, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

Charles Rangel(D) fails to learn from John Kerry(D)’s mistake and has no “botched joke” defense.

“No bright young individual wants to fight just because of a bonus and just because of educational benefits.”

“If a young fellow has an option of having a decent career, or joining the Army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq.”

No Charlie. I’m willing to bet these are brave and intelligent individuals who are willing to defend your right to be stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does. Kerry and Rangel, the Democrats’ Mutt and Jeff.

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Dennis Prager’s point about “Mein Kampf” is right on. I have often thought that giving Gitmo prisoners copies of the Koran (handled with white gloves not less, so that the infidel does not pollute it) is equivalent to giving NAZI P.O.W.’s “Mein Kampf”.

Take away their Korans and let them read the Bible. I don’t say that as an Evangelical Christian, but as an “historian”. Western Civilization succeeds where others fail - that is until they allow men like Keith Ellison to destroy the fabric of our society.

That fabric is starting to fray around the edges. Time to mend it before its too late.

By I Voted for the War Even Though I am Yellow

November 28, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

I did shoot a 14 year-old kid last night in cold blood though.

That’ll teach him to make fun of gay pizza delivery trannies.

By I Voted for the War Even Though I am Yellow

November 28, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

I do give to the poor though.

Heck, I give it up for anybody!

I have an insatiable booty…

By @@

November 28, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

Good morning Midori. You’re looking Dandy this this a.m.

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this

Where are those “moderate” muslims we keep hearing about? They are not in evidence in our Universities, at least not in the Muslim Student Organization.

This is just one example of what is going on every day. Muslims control the debate at Pace University and silence a screening of the movie “Obsession” using fear and intimidation. The University Dean cowers and cows to their demands.

[Instead of a “debate”, one gets harangues by witches from the Muslim Student Organization. A very effective technique - they win, we lose. Allah Akbar!] (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=25656)

By What Don't The Panty Waists Understand?

November 28, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this

Don’t rob someone, you won’t get shot.

When the cops tell you to stop, don’t reach in to your pants and grab your thing, you won’t get shot.

When the cops bust down the front door yelling “police” don’t shoot 3 of them, you won’t get shot.

Come to Andy’s house, touch the side of it leaving some fingerprint evidence, you WILL get shot.

Duh.

By What Don't the Wingnuts Understand?

November 28, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this

Filthy @9:49a

So, when the Branch Davidians ignored the orders of the law enforcement officers surrounding their compound in Waco and used their children as human shields to hide behind, the surrounding officers were completely justified in returning the fire that they had received from within the compound.

Ipso Facto:

Don’t keep automatic weapons without a permit, you won’t get shot.

When the cops tell you to stop, don’t barracade yourself behind women and children in an enclave armed with fully automatic weapons, you won’t get yourself and your hostages shot or burned alive.

When the cops bust down the wall with an APC yelling “POLICE” don’t shoot them , you won’t get shot.

If you leave a fingerprint on Filthy’s house, he WILL shoot you, and he WILL go to jail for the rest of his life ! ! !

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

Let me show you how deeply disgusting and sick that liberalism is:

Atlanta Urinal- Around {{{{{{{{{{{noon}}}}}}}}}}}} Monday, about 15 teenagers, calling themselves the Young Paper Chasers, stood beneath a tree and tried to wash away what was left of their friend Kenyatta Calhoun. On the spot where the 14-year-old died, the Young Paper Chasers poured {{{{{{{{{{liquor}}}}}}}}}}} and soda on the ground to flush away the red stains. “We couldn’t look at the blood anymore,” 17-year-old Bay Bay Green said. {{{{{{{{{{{{{{“Today, we are just sitting around, drinking.}}}}}}}}}}}}} Thinking about Big Boi.”

The Atlanta Constipation and it’s liberal readership think: Big Boi was a Rock Star!

Conservatives reading this foul sh-it think: “Teenagers” drinking liquor at noon? Where the F are the parents? These little boys would have a mark on their as-s that wrapped around the top of their heads and then I would really set to kicking that butt up and down the street.

The kid got killed. K-I-L-L-E-D. Over some ten dollar stupid sh-it. You can’t be anymore of a failure than that, he is a zero. The same people that should have been guiding him to something better are either drunk at noon, nowhere to be found or just got elected to the majority of both houses of Congress.

This is what Jesus wanted from y’all? This is what you mean by liberals “feeding the poor?” Try throwing that at us this morning you punka-ss mofo’s.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

By What Don’t the Wingnuts Understand? November 28, 2006 10:27 AM So, when the Branch Davidians ignored the orders of the law enforcement officers surrounding their compound in Waco and used their children as human shields to hide behind, the surrounding officers were completely justified in returning the fire that they had received from within the compound.

So when American or Israeli soldiers are fired upon from a house that is full of women and children then what ever happens after that the liberals are perfectly cool with it, right?

Right?

To create and establish the “Georgia Right to Self-defense Act of 2006”; “(a) A person is justified in threatening or using force against another and does not have a duty to retreat when and to the extent that he or she reasonably believes that such threat or force is necessary to defend himself or herself or a third person against such otheŕs imminent use of unlawful force

Hehehehe, come on by punkas-s.

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

{{(Mahmood) said he doubted that he would quit because of the shooting.

“If I stopped, more guys will get encouraged and rob more people,” Mahmood said.}}

Andy,

This guy deserves a medal - He gets it like most don’t. Maybe the State Department or the CIA could hire him while we’re at it. He has a better understanding of how to deal with thuggery than the entrenched Liberal bureaucratic elite.

By I Voted for the War Even Though I am Yellow

November 28, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

I’m real butch in cyberspace though. Call me cybertough…

But the real me is as femme as they come.

I’m so femme that Bi Danish likes me.

Bottoms up!

By Ban I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

Ban this idiot for inciting violence.

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Can you please explain how your 10:30 can be attributed to ‘liberalism?’

By Second Story Man

November 28, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

Andy, you are not Jim Wooten’s mini-me. You dont complete him. You’re a troll. A common everyday dime-a-dozen troll. You dont even know what 911 was about. You dont know who conspired it, nor do you know why. You’re just a bagman for the journalists downtown. You’re so hack, you couldn’t write weather copy.

So for journalists everywhere, the gang down at O’douls, the entire readership of the AJC, and for mom’s apple pie, I must now tell you to stfu.

By Midori

November 28, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

you know what’s so funny? all the wingnuts can do is focus on “botched jokes”.

where the he## were they when Bush was “putting food on your family”? “know that people and fish can exist peacefully”?

the guy can’t string a sentence together without a hammer and nails, yet the wingnuts have the nerve to lampoon people who really CAN speak the queen’s english

mutt and jeff, indeed. what does this make Bush? telling that the right has such low standards for their choice to sit in the highest office in the land.

pathetic.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

To all the punk a-ss liberals that don’t have the courage or the brain power to debate what I say:

You care for the kid’s feelings, I care for the kid’s life.

You would consign the child to a short, brutal sloven life of failure so that he doesn’t feel “discriminated” against.

I will care for the children I don’t care who’s feelings I hurt.

I will admit that it’s probably not your fault, judging from your posts and the foul, mindless way that you communicate with others, I’m guessing that you are just as stupid as the child is.

It’s the parents that need their a-ss kicked.

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this

There were no illegal weapons at Mt. Carmel, it’s even in the Treasury Department CYA document. But I guess if the government wants to murder a few Christians it’s OK with you libs.

By your standards the Clinton/Reno justice Department even used extreme torture methods.

A few nights later huge floodlights were turned on the buildings and recordings of Tibetan chants, Christmas music, the cries of rabbits being slaughtered, and other engaging sounds were dinned into the residence, designed to make sleep impossible for those within.

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

Midori,

If I were you I wouldn’t be complaining about people that can’t string a cogent thought together.

Do a search of these pages and find the posts written by Midori if you want to see for yourself.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

Iran tells Talabani that US-led forces must leave Iraq

Hey! That’s the same exact thing the liberals are saying.

I told you they were on the same side.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Here’s why the liberals want us to quit:

“Since October 2004, we have now killed or captured over 7,000 Al-Qaeda terrorists,” coalition spokesman Major General William Caldwell told journalists on Tuesday.

We’re killing their army off.

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

It is hard to believe that it is the Twenty-First Cenury and people are still arguing about Creationism and Evolution. Creationism is about faith and as such, cannot and should not be the object of scientific inquiry. It is not productive to apply scientific methods to the natural world with the underlying assumption that God created all beings just as they are now. In medicine, for example, we have to deal with the constant evolution of bacteria and viruses. We study what makes them change, how they change, and how to keep up with those changes. From the simple flu vaccine, which has to be changed yearly in order to keep up with the evolution of the flu virus, to treatments for HIV, tuberculosis, and even the common staphylococcus germ, evolutionary theory works. The same goes for genetics.

Like the theory of evolution, the theory of relativity also has many holes. Yet I don’t hear many people arguing that it is invalid because of these holes. The theory works, as the development of the atom bomb and nuclear energy clearly shows. Nor do I hear people arguing about the corollaries of the theory of relativity, such as the relativity of time, which certainly makes a hash out of any literal interpretation of the Bible. Scientific theories undergo constant change and refinement as new information is acquired. This doesn’t make them wrong; it again points out the difference between divinely revealed truth and science.

Creationism, on the other hand, is not meant to accomodate new information. Therefore, there is no point in making it the object of scientific inquiry. Everything that can be discovered about Creationism is known. It is complete in itself. Creationism is a revealed article of faith. Believe in it, but don’t try and make it science. It is blasphemous to do so. The revealed word of God should not be treated in the same way as the clumsy attempts we make to understand the natural world known as the scientific method.

The director of the Vatican Observatory, an educated man and scientist as well as a priest of God said: “…placing intelligent design ideas alongside the theory of evolution in school programs was “wrong” and was akin to mixing apples with oranges.

“Intelligent design isn’t science even though it pretends to be,” the ANSA news agency quoted Coyne as saying on the sidelines of a conference in Florence. “If you want to teach it in schools,

By Let's Be Honest

November 28, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

The people that were killed on Koresh’s compound weren’t Christians, they were morons.

The Bush administration term for the children would be “collateral damage”.

By Midori

November 28, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

RW,

it says about the same about people who are determined to stalk others, spell check and thesarus in hand.

By Al

November 28, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

The Chimp has set the world afire w his empty ego and mind and now awaits suggestions and answers from the Nixon-Reagan-Bush-Bush Iraq Study Group of Everlasting Ignorance. I see RW is hungrily groping for breath again today.

By Midori

November 28, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

I see the Bush Twins have taken their class act to Argentina.

Running thru the hotel corridors drunk AND naked.

Such upstanding young ladies.

Chelsea must be quite envious.

By I Voted for the War Even Though I am Yellow

November 28, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

I left the war in Iraq.

Actually, I never went.

I’m a big sissy that way.

And every way.

Just like RW and Bi Danish.

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

RW-(the Sophist),

I don’t know whether liberals are telling us we have to leave Iraq, but I do know that the latest elections are telling us we have to make a change in our strategy there. Empty slogans like “mission accomplished,” and “stay the course” just won’t cut it anymore. I think there are quite a few conservatives that feel the same way. Your straw man needs some clothes if you expect him to work.

By Truthman

November 28, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

All you folks who love “The Long War” please feel free to enlist.

If we had more of @@ and N-Ga and Andy in Iraq, isn’t it be reasonalbe to assume that our troubles would be over there and we’d be the great liberators Rummy used to speak about.

Gosh, I can think of no more noble endeavor than for all the war lovers to enlist post haste and go kill Al-Qaida in Iraq.

I’m certain there is a recruiting office near you.

Please @@ and N-Ga and Andy. I would feel so much safer with y’all defending my freedoms in Iraq. Please enlist and help your president!!

P.S. Did you know we’re already having talks with “The Enemy” in Iraq about a ceasefire? Gosh, I thought we didn’t negotiate with “trrists!!”

By Let's Be Honest

November 28, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Koresh and his fellow child molesters weren’t Christians, unless they were Catholics, which they weren’t.

Only in Catholicism is pedophilia considered a sacrament and a religious rite.

And Southern Baptist.

By Midori

November 28, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

yeah, RW, i’m real incoherent.

Can I run for president now? can I count on your vote?

I may not have run several businesses in the ground, but hey, I’m still illiterate. That’s GOT to be worth something to your value system. Especially when choosing a president.

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Evolution and Creationisms continued:

The director of the Vatican Observatory, an educated man and scientist as well as a priest of God said: “…placing intelligent design ideas alongside the theory of evolution in school programs was “wrong” and was akin to mixing apples with oranges.

“Intelligent design isn’t science even though it pretends to be,” the ANSA news agency quoted Coyne as saying on the sidelines of a conference in Florence. “If you want to teach it in schools, intelligent design should be taught when religion or cultural history is taught, not science.”

I personally find it more awe inspiring to think of a God who could get the whole evolutionary ball rolling than I do one who takes a lump of clay and breathes live into it. Talk about unfathomable power!

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

I have to admit I find the conservative obsession with the Clinton Administrations’ failure (yes, failure) at Waco particularly ironic.

It was a debacle, it was mismanaged and many children and innocent people needlessly died.

However, an independent investigator, John Danforth, was appointed by Janet Reno to make sure all the facts were exposed.

In fact, even the ol’pumpkin shooter weighed in with this beaut:

Burton praised Danforth but said his committee planned a wider probe to determine not only whether federal officials were criminally negligent, but also whether they were incompetent in the way they handled the siege and subsequent internal reviews of the matter. “We need to find out who’s responsible,” Burton said. “We don’t want people in charge of things like Waco if they’re not doing their job properly.”

Now, wouldn’t it be great if the Bush administrations mismanaged debacle in Iraq that has led to the senseless death of so many innocent people was at least equally admonished by ‘conservatives?’

By getalife

November 28, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

The Bush twins make Billy Carter look like a saint.

They should be shipped to Baghdad.

By Let's Be Honest

November 28, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

Al, bottomfeeders have a tough time getting oxygen. Their lips are in a constant sucking motion. Of course, in RW’s case we are also talking about his personal sexual preferences too.

By Republicans Destroy Home Values

November 28, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Sales of existing homes posted a tiny increase in October but the median home price fell by a record amount. Analysts forecast more price declines in coming months as the once-booming housing market undergoes a painful correction.

King George replaced your upper middle income job with your choice of several minimum wage McJobs, now he is busy destroying the value of your home. Ain’t those Republican supply-side economics grand ? ? ?

PS- Don’t forget to say THANKS in 2008 ! ! !

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

RW,

I think Midori has a problem with truth-checkers.

Midori,

Can you provide a link to the tabloid where you got your “Bush Twins Run Naked” story?

Thanks!

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

Washington State (RW Stalker),

Do you have a personal vendetta going against RW? Last week you addressed a long diatribe to him on the subject of pedophilia, a subject he had not broached himself. When I questioned you about it you told me to read the posts, which I had. You never were able to provide the, err, missing link.

Today you are pestering him about the War in Iraq. Can you show us where he even mentioned Iraq today?

LHU,

Do you have a degree in Moral Relativism?

Can you not see the difference between Waco and the Iraq War? While you’re at it, maybe you could show us where congress approved the Waco invasion.

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

Midori and Buy Danish:

Why does it make a difference what the Bush twins are doing with their lives?

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

Midori,

…With pictures, please!!!

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState @ 12:16,

Is there any reason you are addressing that comment to me? Or at least your silly pet version of my name?

By the way slick, let me know when one of those bacteria becomes a raccoon.

By Stay the Course

November 28, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A debate over whether to set a timetable for a phased withdrawal of US forces from Iraq is being preempted by key US allies who have announced plans to scale back their own forces over the next year, analysts say.

The latest and most important to announce was Britain, whose defense minister said Monday the 7,100-member British contingent will be scaled back “by a matter of thousands” by the end of next year.

The entire world has enough smarts to pull out of Iraq, but today King George says: U.S. won’t pull out of Iraq. Pretty soon, Laura and Barney will jump ship too and our troops will finally get to stop dying for somebody else’s civil war ! ! !

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

Washinton State,

You may want to defer treating your patients and lavish some attention on yourself. I’m not a shrink but you clearly have a problem. First RW, now me. I’ll leave it to professionals to diagnose exactly WTF that problem is.

Midori brought up the Bush twins, not me. I am asking her to differentiate between fantasy and reality. It is germane to my previous comment that she needs a “truth-checker”.

By Stay the Course

November 28, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON (AFP) - US forces can neither crush the insurgency in western Iraq nor counter the rising popularity of the Al-Qaeda terrorist network in the area, media reported, citing a secret Marine Corps intelligence report.

If you want an honest assessment, ask a grunt. All you’re ever gonna get from a Republican is another pack of LIES ! ! !

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

BD,

Just so you understand, the differences between Iraq and Waco are too numerous to name.

However, what I pointed out (and you so cowardly avoided) was the incompetence that led to so many innocent victims.

And, the DEMAND by so many (possibly yourself?) for accountability for the results.

If you want to respond in a meaningful way, please address the point of the post instead of resorting to anobfuscation.

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Any of you band who happen to be posting when I get a chance to log on gets the benefit of a return post. As for your “intervention” in my post to RJ about pedophilia, he was talking about my reply to Andy’s post showing Andy’s ignorance about child abuse, asking me why I didn’t take Lukowitz to task for his tasteless cartoons about child abuse on the part of the Catholic clergy. My reply was what you came in on. Sorry it was all over your head, but don’t worry about it. I know you can’t help it.

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

You are right about one thing though, it wasn’t RW who posted about the Iraq war, it was our old friend, Andy. I misread that one and thought his post was part of RW’s, who had a couple of back to back posts. I should have known better. Thanks for pointing it out to me.

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

One mention of young girls naked and Lord Help Us drops his partisanship and unmasks the pervert he truly is.

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

Just thought of a funny question:

If you have a son, would you rather him marry one of the Bush twins or Chelsea Clinton?

Please provide a reason with the response…just for sh-ts and giggles (with apologies to Austin Powers)

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

RW,

Sorry, see above post. I thought Andy’s post was the end of your’s. You are right, you weren’t the one I should have addressed that to.

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

If you think that is stalking, you are being a just a little paranoid. I was asking both Midori and you why it mattered what the Bush twins are doing. I don’t see how it is relevant to anything political or a suitable subject for this board.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

By Stay the Course November 28, 2006 12:51 PM If you want an honest assessment, ask a grunt. All you’re ever gonna get from a Republican is another pack of LIES ! ! !

AntiRadical or whatever name you changed into besides Spammie: Same goes for the child sex trade industry in Thailand, if you want a factual opinion just ask someone that’s “on the ground” and engaged in it.

Like you are.

So fill us in.

By Republican Economics

November 28, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

TALLINN, Estonia - President Bush says the United States should have a simpler tax system. Apparently he has found one he likes — Estonia’s. In a brief stop in the Baltic nation on Tuesday, Bush managed to tout Estonia’s flat income-tax three times.

King George would like the US to be more like Estonia. Sure sounds like Republican economicS to me ! ! !

2005 Gross per capita National Income for the US= $43,740

2005 Gross per capita National Income for Estonia= $9,100

Anybody like to join the Republicans in their mad rush to ‘reform’ the US economy and tax system ? ? ?

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this

RW-(the self righteous),

They are 25, legal and the brunette is good lookin’. If that is perverted, then color me perverted, my man…

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState,

If I’m also “RJ” now, you a lying piece of s-hit. You called Andy a racist and I asked you how you could look at luckovich’s cartoon or read Candide’s comment and not call those things racist

Maybe when you sign on you should also get your head out of your a-ss.

By Stay the Course

November 28, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

Filthy @ 1:06p- AntiRadical or whatever name you changed into besides Spammie: Same goes for the child sex trade industry in Thailand, if you want a factual opinion just ask someone that’s “on the ground” and engaged in it.

Nice try Filthy. Never been to Thailand and ainlt got a clue regarding the child sex industry. I’ll have to defer to your extensive expertise with Congressional pages, gay preachers, and other Republican Family Values ! ! !

By Brownie

November 28, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

Relax, you neocon dirtbags. Iraq is predictably under control. Just as Brain Bush says, only a handful of disgruntled insurgents to quickly mop up. Our mighty cold war military is stretched, so now’s time to activate the Cub Scouts. Brain is on his way to the rescue as we speak. How about a loud chorus of “Onward Christian Soldiers”?

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this

By Republican Economics November 28, 2006 01:09 PM King George would like the US to be more like Estonia. Sure sounds like Republican economicS to me ! ! !

So despite what hundreds of millions of pinkos have said about the United States being more generous and becoming more like the rest of the world, here’s Spammie trashing Estonia starting some sort of pointless hate festival over something Bush has SAID but not DONE.

Anybody like to join the Republicans in their mad rush to ‘reform’ the US economy and tax system ? ? ?

Yes, Spammie, in fact I would, seeing how this is a far better economy than anything a democrat has ever accomplished, hands down.

Why does low unemployment, low interest rates, high wages and high home ownership upset you perverts so much??

Are you hoping for a depression??

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this

RW,

Correct me if I am wrong. You were referring to Lukovich’s cartoon about keeping the pederast priests in a closet or did you have some other cartoon in mind? You are getting to be more and more like Andy in your scatlogical comments. A temporary regression or a permanent one after the latest elections? Andy is a racist, pure and simple. The last time we discussed that you said that there were no teams on this blog and he was entitled to his own opinions. Or do you have a convenient hole in your memory. As for the rest, I don’t spend my whole life blogging, so forgive me a few mistakes here and there. I think you get the gist of my posts anyways.

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

LHU,

I was just p-issed that you got to the comment first.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

Spammie, you have a signature that is moronically unmistakeable; just like you and AntiRadical are.

[By Stay the Course November 28, 2006 01:27 PM Filthy @ 1:06p- Nice try Filthy. Never been to Thailand and ainlt got a clue regarding the child sex industry.[(R)

Child sex trading pervert.

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState,

I linked you to exactly what was said and to the cartoon it was said on and about. Are you really that pathetically stupid that you can’t go click on the magic blue text?

By Bob

November 28, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

Midori. Pay no attention to these misanthropic Bush jihadists. They are nothing more than a fragment of the caravan of Republiscum hatred and intolerance which has long swept throughout the land. Disaffected, bitter people who attempt to peddle their communicable diseases to anyone who’ll listen. Disciples of hate who are not even a fit subject for moral judgement. Just look at the lot of them. Weakness at its best.

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState,

I don’t understand your election reference. I have a Republican governor, a Republican Lt. Governor, a Republican State House, two Republican Senators, and a sane Democrat Congressman to replace Cynthia McKinney. Those are the only things I have a say in and they look pretty good from where I sit.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this

By WashingtonState November 28, 2006 01:34 PM You were referring to Lukovich’s cartoon about keeping the pederast priests in a closet or did you have some other cartoon in mind? You are getting to be more and more like Andy in your scatlogical comments. A temporary regression or a permanent one after the latest elections? Andy is a racist, pure and simple.

Anyone who makes excuses for 150,000 child abusers in public education but then focuses on 1,200 in the Preisthood is probably a child molestor himself.

This guy is a jerk off plain and simple and is not worthy of my attention.

And the simple fact that he can’t shut his fking mouth with the race baiting makes him the real racist, too stupid to understand it, you got something on me, show the rest of us, Race Baiter.

Last comment to your sick little worthless pervert a-ss WS.

Go molest your child.

Bye bye.

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

RW, You have a link to the Kramer cartoon today, but you didn’t have one when you originally posted. The thread was on the cartoon about the pederast priests. Am I supposed to be some kind of a mind reader? My post was about child abuse in the schools. Andy’s racism is a given and only incidental to the main thrust of the post. You really are becoming a sophist when winning an argument is more important than the facts of the argument. Nice of you to add the links now, after the fact.

By Republican Economics

November 28, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

Filthy @1:34- Yes, Spammie, in fact I would, seeing how this is a far better economy than anything a democrat has ever accomplished, hands down.

I’m sure that the Estonian yearly wage of $9,100 is as attractive to Filthy as it is to King George^^^. Not trashing Estonia but damn if I want to emmulate them either. Considering that home values are now falling, real adjusted income has been in decline during King George’s reign, high paying jobs have been outsourced overseas while only minimum wage McJobs have replaced them 1000:1, and the US National Debt is at the highest level ever recorded, it is just another Republican LIE to tout the current economy as anything other than lackluster ! ! !

US National Debt= $8,631,808,565,339.71

The estimated population of the United States is 300,337,266 so each citizen’s share of this debt is $28,740.38.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $2.07 billion per day since September 29, 2006!

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

Washington State,

I recently posted some information about witch-hunts. You jumped in and told me that my witch-hunts didn’t matter and that I needed to pay attention to your witch-hunt and complained that I was being partisan and accused me of wanting to get rid of social services and God only knows what else.

You have a personal agenda relating to your “line of work” that you rarely fail to insinuate in the conversation, not matter what the topic.

If you want to blog here and not come across as crazy, bullying, and/or foolish then you would be advised to look before you leap.

By Jenn

November 28, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

One of the Bush daughters was in Argentina. She had her purse and cell phone stolen while she was down there doing humanitarian work. I’d also like to see where Midori is getting her info about them running drunk and naked.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

By Republican Economics November 28, 2006 01:54 PM Considering that home values are now falling, real adjusted income has been in decline during King George’s reign, high paying jobs have been outsourced overseas while only minimum wage McJobs have replaced them 1000:1, and the US National Debt is at the highest level ever recorded, it is just another Republican LIE to tout the current economy as anything other than lackluster ! ! !

AntiRadical/ Spammie: You reckon it my be because the democrats just got handed control of fiscal policy, huh, huh?

The economy was chugging along just fine until November 7th, what happened that day, huh Spammie?

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Andy,

You really are a simple minded pos. You did exactly what the authors of the report were afraid ignorant people would do and took the report totally out of context. As for comparing it to the Church, where the heck do you get that from? My only comment on that was when RW referred to the cartoon (apparently to the pedarast priests) and asked me why I didn’t lecture Lukovich on that. You have to know the enemy before you can fight them. Your take on the report is exactly what the authors wanted to avoid. The enemy in child abuse is everywhere. It is only if we can honestly examine the problem free of our preconceived ideas that we can beat it. I am not trying to exonerate the teachers who abuse children, but only to point out that that study is a start at a hard, honest look at the problem of child abuse everywhere in our society. I applaud the public schools for taking the first step in that direction.

By @@

November 28, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this

Andy:

I just got back and read your 10:30. Once again, your concern for kids, all kids, shines through.

When my daughter was in school, I knew what she was up to most of the time, and who she hung out with. A couple of them weren’t cream of the crop, but I didn’t hesitate to let them know I knew it, and that they were being watched. Kinda discouraged them from coming around. The two I had my eye on ended up doing time in prison.

It’s a liberal idea that children should be given freedom to make mistakes. The problem is that in today’s world, the mistakes can cost a child their lives so their idea of freedom needs to be reexamined.

Sad, very sad.

By Anti-Radical

November 28, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

Fithy @ 1:37- Spammie, you have a signature that is moronically unmistakeable; just like you and AntiRadical are. Child sex trading pervert.

All you wingnuts should run for your lives. Spammie and Anti-Radical are rounding up all the kiddies for child sex trading orgies. They have the Hillarycopters fired up and they are on the prowl. Run for your lives, they done got out the liberal mind control ray and they are gonna impregnate your daughters with rhinocerous jizm then make ‘em get an abortion.

Help, help…..arrrrggggh, they done got Filthy again. Shiite, now Filthy is gonna be up all night snortin crack, drinkin Mad Dog, and humpin everthing that moves. Dirty filthy rotten liberals ! ! !

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

Bullsh-it: You said quote “few incidents occured at school and it was one of the safest places you could be.” Totally ignoring the fact that classrooms are open and few teachers can gain the privacy they seek. That’s why the report focused on teacher/ student OFF CAMPUS ASSUALTS also which is a product of daily interaction.

To even mention the Preisthood is sick, debased, it’s .000005% of the problem.

If the PROBLEM is REALLY what you wish to solve.

Fk you.

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

You really didn’t get that post did you? The start of the witch hunts for group child abusers was largely a result of the Ingram case and was fueled by certain groups of fundamentalist Christians who truly believed Satan was at work on earth in those events. They pushed the agenda in their press and on t.v. Eventually, it became a mass hysteria. So yes, I do agree with you that there were witch hunts, but I disagree that they were much different from the Saalem witch hunts in that they were started by intruding religion into government just as the Saalem witch hunts were.

By w00t

November 28, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

Its official, Conservatives are crazy…

The avoidance of uncertainty, for example, as well as the striving for certainty, are particularly tied to one key dimension of conservative thought - the resistance to change or hanging onto the status quo, they said.

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState,

Bullsh!t, I just linked to your comment under the Kramer cartoon and my questioning of your comment. That is the beginning of the conversation between you and I and anyone with one eye and half sense can see that.

Your stubbornness in trying to play this charade just because you know Buy Danish was right is really pathetic and makes you look very wormlike.

My comment asks you very specifically about the Kramer cartoon and your comment about Andy being a racist. Nothing more and nothing less. Your fascination with pedophilia is really disgusting and I sincerely hope Andy hasn’t pegged your desires accurately, but people that would constantly bring that to a political blog regardless of the topic seem awfully suspicious to me.

By Filthy Logic

November 28, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

Filthy @ 2:00p- The economy was chugging along just fine until November 7th, what happened that day, huh Spammie?

Yeh, Filthy I’ll have to admit defeat. Those damn Democrats should already have fixed 6 years of Republican mismanagement within 3 weeks of being elected and before they actually take office a month and a half from now. Your logic is irrefutable ! ! !

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

Washington State,

There you go again. The witch-hunts that I cited had NOTHING to do with religion. I intentionally chose ones that fell into that category.

Secular Progressives who blog here (and you may be one of them for all I know) constantly use things like the Salem Witch hunts or the KKK to prove how horrible Christians are and how we are no better than the IslamoSavages who threaten the civilized world and our very existence.

I was making a point about non-religious witch-hunts perpetrated by liberals.

I have also made points about the horrors wraught by Stalin and Marx - avowed secularists.

That is my point and in that context I don’t care about the wacko ideas of one individual who lets his children lie and send him to jail because of his distorted religious beliefs.

If there were nations filled with them them running around with suicide belts I’d care.

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

RW and Buy Danish,

You are both right. I was under the assumption that we were in the thread about the Church hiding pedarasts in a closet and that is why I referred back to that cartoon. You got me. I will make a sincere act of contrition and double check the thread I am on next time.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

Spammie/ Anti Radical: I know that you have no idea how economics works, it’s obvious from your posts.

Most successful businessman, myself included, LOOK AHEAD, before adverse condition affect our finances.

Believe me, democrats and their tax insanity, oil company witch hunts, kangaroo court investigations of Bush policy are all just a few of the adverse conditions headed our way, all a huge drag on economic output.

Smart people are sheltering their Republican policy gains where democrats can’t get at them, thus the downturn in the leading indicators.

Idiot.

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I am afraid we are talking about the same things. Those “secular witch hunts” you are referring to started with that Ingram case. The link I gave showed how the Christian far-right picked up on this and helped spread the idea. The Ingram case was the first to gain widespread notoriety, and it was used on talk shows and in certain Christian publications to push the whole idea. Unfortunately, the therapy industry fed right into this with the whole recovered memory scam and the rest is history.

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Bush is REBOUNDING in the polls!!!

[President Bush’s approval ratings, as tracked by Harris Interactive, fell to the second-lowest of his presidency, according to a new poll. According to the telephone poll, conducted between Nov. 17 and Nov. 21, 31% of U.S. adults called Mr. Bush’s job performance “excellent” or “good” — down from 34% who gave a positive assessment in a late-October poll; 67% said his performance is only “fair” or “poor,” up from 63% in the previous survey. The president’s lowest approval rating in a Harris poll was 29% in May 2006.

What the heck is WRONG with 31% of the people in this country?

Bush will go down as one of the worst Presidents in our history.

The only good thing he has done is destroy the ‘conservative’ movement.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

@@: Thank you.

I honestly don’t think liberals care at all about our children. It’s a pretty simple issue to grasp; either they are stunningly stupid or insincere about their intentions.

When you have 1,200 priest that are hurting our children versus 150,000 teachers, why do we get the front page exposes on the Catholic Church? Sure it’s part of the problem but why the total ignoring of the much larger issue?

Because they hate Religion maybe?

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Since you are such a smart, successful business man, you must have LOVED Bill Clinton’s management of the economy!!!

After eight years, the results of President Clinton’s economic leadership are clear.

Strong Economic Growth: economic growth has averaged 4.0 percent per year, compared to average growth of 2.8 percent during the Reagan-Bush years. The economy has grown for 116 consecutive months, the most in history. Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: The economy has created more than 22.5 million jobs in less than eight years—the most jobs ever created under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92 percent, are in the private sector. Median Family Income Up $6,000 since 1993: Economic gains have been made across the spectrum as family incomes increased for all Americans. Since 1993, real median family income has increased by $6,338, from $42,612 in 1993 to $48,950 in 1999 (in 1999 dollars). Unemployment at Its Lowest Level in More than 30 Years: Overall unemployment has dropped to the lowest level in more than 30 years, down from 6.9 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. The unemployment rate has been below 5 percent for 40 consecutive months. Unemployment for African Americans has fallen from 14.2 percent in 1992 to 7.3 percent in October 2000, the lowest rate on record. Unemployment for Hispanics has fallen from 11.8 percent in October 1992 to 5.0 percent in October 2000, also the lowest rate on record. Lowest Inflation since the 1960s: Inflation is at the lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, and it is down from 4.7 percent during the previous administration. Highest Homeownership Rate on Record: The homeownership rate reached 67.7 percent for the third quarter of 2000, the highest rate on record. In contrast, the homeownership rate fell from 65.6 percent in the first quarter of 1981 to 63.7 percent in the first quarter of 1993. 7 Million Fewer Americans Living in Poverty: The poverty rate has declined from 15.1 percent in 1993 to 11.8 percent last year, the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. There are now 7 million fewer people in poverty than there were in 1993.

WHEW!!! Sorry for the long post, but there was a lot of success to remind you

By Filthy Logic

November 28, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this

Filthy- I hate to break the news to you but historically the economy has done very well under divided leadership. “Smart people” know that when the legislative/executive branches are at odds, no new legislation is gonna get signed into law to impact their business models (see the tenure of Bill Clinton for a recent example). The market has always liked the status quo. If you indeed have enjoyed any sort of success at all, you should know that fundamental fact, moron. If all you wingnuts are hangin your hats on is a collapse in the economy, you’re gonna be a mighty unhappy group of wingnuts in a couple of years ! ! !

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

More accomplishments of the last COMPETENT President:

Largest Surplus Ever: The surplus in FY 2000 is $237 billion—the third consecutive surplus and the largest surplus ever.

Largest Three-Year Debt Pay-Down Ever: Between 1998-2000, the publicly held debt was reduced by $363 billion—the largest three-year pay-down in American history. Under Presidents Reagan and Bush, the debt held by the public quadrupled. Under the Clinton-Gore budget, we are on track to pay off the entire publicly held debt on a net basis by 2009.

Lower Federal Government Spending: After increasing under the previous two administrations, federal government spending as a share of the economy has been cut from 22.2 percent in 1992 to 18 percent in 2000—the lowest level since 1966.

Reduced Interest Payments on the Debt: In 1993, the net interest payments on the debt held by the public were projected to grow to $348 billion in FY 2000. In 2000, interest payments on the debt were $125 billion lower than projected.

Americans Benefit from Reduced Debt: Because of fiscal discipline and deficit and debt reduction, it is estimated that a family with a home mortgage of $100,000 might expect to save roughly $2,000 per year in mortgage payments, like a large tax cut.

Double Digit Growth in Private Investment in Equipment and Software: Lower debt will help maintain strong economic growth and fuel private investments. With government no longer draining resources out of capital markets, private investment in equipment and software averaged 13.3 percent annual growth since 1993, compared to 4.7 percent during 1981 to 1992.

WOW, what a great President!

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

LHU,

Perhaps you can tell us what Clinton actually DID to create this magic (which ended with a stock market bust and a recession).

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

Andy,

The reason the Church has caused so much heartache is because many of us Catholics feel betrayed. Not only were children abused, but the authorities who were supposed to be overseeing the priests were complicit in hiding the facts. Even today, Rome refuses to acknowledge that there is a problem. I was not trying to compare the two issues at all, only answer RW’s post in the mistaken belief that he was referring to the Church’s problems. The reason I think that the school’s report to congress is a good thing is because it should help bring the problem into the light. And not just in the schools.

By Second Story Man

November 28, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this

Andy thinks success means that the Saudi Royal Family takes us to war.

Andy’s too stupid to know how the Saudis are our kings. He’s not educated. He thinks his own life’s fruition came when he learned how to provide links in his comments, which was cool….in 1995.

Andy is a common, everyday schmoe, no worse no better than any average jack or jill. He’s just abusing his own life by nesting on a comment board, and laying his eggs. Andy doesn’t understand that this blog is for AJC readers with a couple of lines to add to a discussion. Most simply dont read his manifesto length unhinged tirades.

He’s a pip, that dandy Andy!

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

Here ya go BD, the initial bit of genius that set the stage for the longest continual expansion of the US economy in our history:

To Establish Fiscal Discipline, President Clinton Enacted the 1993 Deficit Reduction Plan without a Single Republican Vote. Prior to 1993, the debate over fiscal policy often revolved around a false choice between public investment and deficit reduction. The 1993 deficit reduction plan showed that deficit and debt reductions could be accomplished in a progressive way by slashing the deficit in half and making important investments in our future, including education, health care, and science and technology research. The plan included more than $500 billion in deficit reduction. It also cut taxes for 15 million of the hardest-pressed Americans by expanding the Earned Income Tax Credit; created the Direct Student Loan Program; created the first nine Empowerment Zones and first 95 Enterprise Communities; and passed tax cuts for small businesses and research and development.

Go ahead, start obfuscating…

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

Oh, and BD…if you have a similar list of accomplishments by the Bush Administration over the last 6 years, I’d love to see it!

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

LHU,

I had one business that was MUCH more successful during the Clinton years. I serviced obsolete product and businesses were scared to death to buy new equipment then. Once President Bush took office companies felt more comfortable making capital investments.

By Midori

November 28, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

CHENEY Was “Basically Summoned” To Saudi Arabia Because Of Damage Bush Admin Has Created In Region
Contrary to Previous Reports, Cheney Was ‘Basically Summoned’ By Saudi Crown Prince

Last weekend, Vice President Cheney traveled to Saudi Arabia in a visit that “was originally portrayed as U.S. outreach to its oil-rich Arab ally.” Cheney made the trip purportedly to discuss a “range of regional issues,” Cheney’s spokeswoman said. The Associated Press reported that Cheney was “seen as a US diplomatic push to stem surging violence in Iraq.”

But today’s Washington Post reports that the push for the meeting came from the Saudis, not the other way around:

Saudi Arabia is so concerned about the damage that the conflict in Iraq is doing across the region that it basically summoned Vice President Cheney for talks over the weekend, according to U.S. officials and foreign diplomats.

What does it say about the nature of U.S.-Saudi relations when the Vice President can be “summoned” by the Saudi Crown Prince?“>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/28/cheney-saudi)

By Midori

November 28, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

CHENEY Was “Basically Summoned” To Saudi Arabia Because Of Damage Bush Admin Has Created In Region
Contrary to Previous Reports, Cheney Was ‘Basically Summoned’ By Saudi Crown Prince

Last weekend, Vice President Cheney traveled to Saudi Arabia in a visit that “was originally portrayed as U.S. outreach to its oil-rich Arab ally.” Cheney made the trip purportedly to discuss a “range of regional issues,” Cheney’s spokeswoman said. The Associated Press reported that Cheney was “seen as a US diplomatic push to stem surging violence in Iraq.”

But today’s Washington Post reports that the push for the meeting came from the Saudis, not the other way around:

Saudi Arabia is so concerned about the damage that the conflict in Iraq is doing across the region that it basically summoned Vice President Cheney for talks over the weekend, according to U.S. officials and foreign diplomats.

What does it say about the nature of U.S.-Saudi relations when the Vice President can be “summoned” by the Saudi Crown Prince?“>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/28/cheney-saudi)

By @@

November 28, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

Andy:

Last comment, and then I’m out.

In my liberal days, I adhered to the political correctness. Avoid speaking on any race which is not your own out of respect for diversity. When I began to see the kids suffering as a result of that PC, I couldn’t adhere to the liberal law any longer.

Kids are kids, and the village boundaries should not be drawn at the PC line.

Religion? You bet. We have a generation of adults who are hostile to traditional moral guidance. What exactly are they enlightened to?

Kids are being raised in that vacuum. They should at least, be given the exposure and option. When it’s not being offered in the home, I have no problem with spiritual philosophy being offered in schools. I’m betting there are those liberals would not even allow that option. They seem to be an “all or nothing” crowd.

Withholding spiritual love can offer no good end to our kids. We’ll end up answering the call of the wild as a society.

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

Sure RW, 8 years of continual economic expansion scares a lot of real good businesspeople…

Why would anyone have been ‘scared to death’…’during the Clinton years’ (and the aforementioned 8 years of continuous economic expansion)?

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

Washington State,

I don’t care where they began. I chose to use the Wenatchee Witch Hunts, which while there were claims that children were being raped at altars, had NOTHING to do with religion.

I was illustrating a problem with over-zealous prosecutors and child protection officers. That was not something you can pin on Christians. It was a symptom of a fault with LIBERALISM.

LHU,

Where did these “painful” cuts occur exactly? Much of his deficit reduction consisted of decimating our military which we are still trying to restore.

By Republicans Don't Honor Their Contracts

November 28, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

LHU- Here’s the only plan that Republicans have come up with since Ronald Reagan….The Republican Contract With America

They screwed that up, too ! ! !

By Chris

November 28, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this

Luckovich still has a job here?

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this

BD, as usual, sigh…do you have any facts to back up your 3:35?

I give you stats and facts, you give me…nuthin…

By WashingtonState

November 28, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Doesn’t look like we will ever see eye to eye on this one. The Wenatchee case was the tip of the iceberg. The underpinnings for the whole phenomenon of recovered memories and satanic ritual abuse arose from extremely conservative Christian roots. It became a real problem when it extended beyond that to involve the government. Notice, I am not saying the liberal government. Wenatchee is as conservative a town as you can get. It might be convenient for you to pin the blame on liberals, but the whole thing started with fundamentalist Christian folks, well meaning, but gullible to a fault.

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this

LHU,

For one thing you are only speaking from a position of theory while I’m speaking from experience.

The bottom line is that the very same thing happened under Clinton that does under all Democrats, the economy collapsed under the tax burden. It just took longer because of the technology bubble. If the Clinton economic policy was the perfect model why did it leave the country in a recession?

Are you one of those nuts that thought IT people were always going to make $100. an hour, when the products they worked on were becoming idiot proof by the day?

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

RW,

Thanks for the S L O W softball! Now step back as I knock it out of the park.

The recession that occurred in 2003 (notice the year, please) barely registered as a recession and many economists still question whether or not there even was a recession.

Either way, it was a small price to pay for 8 continual years of economic expansion and had more to do with Greenspan’s over-reaching interest increases (remember, Greenspan was going overboard trying to slow down the economy?)

Now YOU said, ‘If the Clinton economic policy was the perfect model why did it leave the country in a recession?’

I’ve given you a response to that, and now would like you to answer the question with ONE TINY modification:

‘If the Reagan/Bush economic policy was the perfect model why did it leave the country in a recession?’

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

Mea Culpa…meant 2001, not 2003. My first mistake…remember this day!

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

By Lord Help Us November 28, 2006 02:52 PM After eight years, the results of President Clinton’s economic leadership are clear. Strong Economic Growth: economic growth has averaged 4.0 percent per year, compared to average growth of 2.8 percent during the Reagan-Bush years.

Something tells me that I’m going to regret answering this fool, but:

LHU: Did Clinton have to deal with 9/11, a war in Afghanistan, a war in Iraq, two hurricanes and a tsunami? (Answer: No, the most Bubba had to deal with was the fat chick’s bra strap.)

And did Clinton have the benefit of the Dot.com cash burn if you can even understand the effect of wild, limitless, entrepreneurial spending.

Bush is absolutely Reaganistic.

We’re fixing to see Carter redux.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this

By Filthy Logic November 28, 2006 02:55 PM If all you wingnuts are hangin your hats on is a collapse in the economy, you’re gonna be a mighty unhappy group of wingnuts in a couple of years ! ! !

Spammie/ AntiRadical: O.K. genuis, you tell me what the libs mean when they flat out tell us they’re going to raise taxes.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

By WashingtonState November 28, 2006 03:07 PM Andy, The reason the Church has caused so much heartache is because many of us Catholics feel betrayed. Not only were children abused, but the authorities who were supposed to be overseeing the priests were complicit in hiding the facts.

The school’s somehow have not betrayed us?

On a scale 100 times larger than the Church?

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

LHU,

If you think that’s the first mistake you’ve ever made you are sadly mistaken. The economy was roaring back in 1991 and 1992 from a very brief downturn. Clinton came in riding an uptick, where Bush 43 had to come in and take steps to end the Clinton recession and turn around an economy that was going down the tubes.

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

Washington State,

Conservative Christians came up with the theory of recovered memory????

One more time, there were NO satanic rituals in Wenatchee. It was all a HOAX.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

By Second Story Man November 28, 2006 03:11 PM Andy thinks success means that the Saudi Royal Family takes us to war.

Maybe we should drill for oil in ANWR and the Florida Straits and get rid of Saudi Arabia, huh, libbie? Sound good to you?

Gee, I wonder who’s obstructing the United States from doing just that??

Gosh, I wonder.

By Scoop

November 28, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

How about some more Iraq hero and victory parades. It’s time.

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

LHU,

The NASDAQ market BOOMED and went BUST under Clinton. It has never recovered.

You also ignore the indispensible contributon of the Republican Congress and the Contract with American, something that Reagan and Bush 1 did not have.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this

Best of the Web is jam up today:

I think the comments attributed to Rep. Rangel reveal not only the mindset of liberal policy makers in relation to the military, but also their view of what I like to call “duty to the self.” Those that achieve the greatest academic achievement usually tend to be the most self-centered, imagining their indispensability to the world as a whole. Why should someone give up four years (or more!) of comfort and high earning potential to be subjected to months away from family, cramped living conditions, and the legally binding orders of others? In our modern, liberated, self-centered mind, such a thought is inconceivable.

By Midori

November 28, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

http://www.kirotv.com/money/10414555/detail.html

read between the lines morons: that’s all you need to say about this “robust” economy the Bush Bots claims Bush 43 built up.

it must be sad to be so completely delusional. got to hand it to you idiots, you’re a tenacious brain dead bunch. I’ll bet you all still believe in the Easter Bunny, too.

when China, Saudi Arabia and others demand payment for all the money he has borrowed/squandered, we are truly screwed.

By Lord Help Us

November 28, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

BD, you are so misinformed…

When Bill Clinton came into office the NASDAQ was around 500. The NASDAQ is currently at 2,400.

When Bill Clinton came into office the Dow Industrial Average was about 3,000. The Dow Industrial average is now at 12,000.

In terms of percentage gains, can you pick a winner?

By Midori

November 28, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

I think I’ve just answered my own question

a social work master’s student at Southern Connecticut State University, says he has proven what many progressives have probably suspected for years: a direct link between mental illness and support for President Bush.

…Lohse’s study, backed by SCSU Psychology professor Jaak Rakfeldt and statistician Misty Ginacola, found a correlation between the severity of a person’s psychosis and their preferences for president: The more psychotic the voter, the more likely they were to vote for Bush.

The study began in part as an advocacy project “designed to register mentally ill voters and encourage them” to vote, while assessing “knowledge of current issues, government and politics.” The Bush trend emerged in the course of the study, according to Lohse, who describes himself as a “Reagan revolution fanatic” who nonetheless finds Bush “beyond the pale.” During the course of the study, it emerged that “Bush supporters has significantly less knowledge about current issues, government and politics than those who supported Kerry,” and that greater levels of psychosis predicted Bush support.

“Our study shows that psychotic patients prefer an authoritative leader,” Lohse says. “If your world is very mixed up, there’s something very comforting about someone telling you, ‘This is how it’s going to be’.”

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

As Midori rightfully points out at 5:00 using Lohse’s words freedom from authoritarian control is something most humans should strive for.

It makes you wonder why the left thinks Afghanis shouldn’t be free, or Iraqis, or Cubans, or North Koreans, or Iranians……..

By getalife

November 28, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

Told ya Andy was mental.

Poor guy just needs a doctor and psychotic meds.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

Ohhhh, another lib “study” saying just what you pinkos want to hear, isn’t that sweet? I hope it brings you much comfort in your weird little worlds.

The “dot-com bubble” was a speculative bubble covering roughly 1997–2001 during which stock markets in Western nations saw their value increase rapidly from growth in the new Internet sector and related fields. The period was marked by the founding (and in many cases, spectacular failure) of a group of new Internet-based companies commonly referred to as dot-coms. A combination of rapidly increasing stock prices, individual speculation in stocks, and widely available venture capital created an exuberant environment in which many of these businesses dismissed standard business models, focusing on increasing market share at the expense of the bottom line.

Gosh, those years sound familiar, what was the deal with 1997-2001, hmmmmm, oh yeah, Al Gore invented the internet!

Tell us some more fairy tales, LHU.

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

LHU,

Spare me the “I’m informed and you’re not argument”. I don’t have time to go through every argument.

Was the Dow at 12,000 when Bill Clinton left office or was it lower?

Bill Clinton did not have to deal with 9/11 and the War in Iraq and Afghanistan. Bill Clinton had a Republican Congress to help him along with cuts in Welfare, advocating NAFTA and other pro-growth policies.

Considering what this country has gone through and the prosperous state we are in today, surely YOU can give BUSH credit for his policies.

You can also thank JFK and Reagan. What do YOU suggest we do in the future?

By getalife

November 28, 2006 06:10 PM | Link to this

w begging for help while he says we will not withdraw is downright embarrassing.

I bet they laugh their as-ses off after he leaves.

He is not man enough to admit his failures and the only way to get rid of this pathetic creature is impeachment.

Cheney too.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Another Bush “failure” the libs were totally wrong about:

Sunday’s Washington Post had an excellent front-page story on Medicare Part D, the new Medicare prescription drug benefit. Part D, which took effect at the beginning of this year, seems to have been a success. Some 22.5 million seniors have enrolled, and the cost–$26 billion–has turned out to be lower than projected. And “Medicare has received new bids indicating that its average per-person subsidy could drop by 15 percent in 2007, to $79.90 a month.” Polls indicate that about 80 percent of enrollees are satisfied with the program.

By Diogenes

November 28, 2006 06:22 PM | Link to this

You would indeed think that “freedom from authoritarian control is something most humans should strive for,” as RW asserts at 5:25, but that seems counterintuitive. What experience shows is that most people stive first of all to belong, to be part of a distinct group — a tribe, a club, a church, so on through the list of social organizations. I would suggest that the desire to belong trumps the sense of loss of individuality and individual rights. The quickest example I can think of is the Nazis in the mid to late 30’s. The “good” Germans identified themselves first as Germans, even as Hitler reduced individual rights and individual identity in the name of the “greater good.” Goebbels, of course, was instrumental in this. There were exceptions, of course, as there always are, but for the majority, belonging trumps individuality.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

Stunning defeat number two, out of exactly two tries, for Pelosi:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic Rep. Alcee Hastings of Florida, impeached as a federal judge in 1989 on corruption charges, dropped his bid under pressure on Tuesday to chair a congressional panel designed to help protect America’s security, a party aide said.

My gawd, somebody help this woman. Are y’all libs just gonna let her flounder and flop around like that, how seemly.

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

Belonging to a church or a club is analogous to being a Nazi?

Did some of those book shelves fall on your head Diogenes?

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

Study Finds that a Single Impact Killed the Dinosaurs

Ummmmm, I thought they “evolved” into birds?

That was a bird brained premise anyway.

Hey, maybe your study could get with my study and study how to stop making pinkos look so damn silly?

Now THAT would be a major breakthrough.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this

Well, what do you know, the libs were right about global cooling:

The arctic deep freeze trapping Calgary is on track to break a 110-year-old weather record today, but the bitter cold is expected to ease in the coming days.

By @@

November 28, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this

Diogenes:

Count me as the exception. My opinion is that belonging is a need for those looking for affirmation.

Never needed it, never wanted it.

Bush never needed it either. That’s why I appreciate the man.

And for the record, Lieberman didn’t need in the November election.

Strength doesn’t need to be propped up. It can stand alone.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this

Hey! I thought this was an illegal war for oil, being fought unilaterally:

UNITED NATIONS (AP) - The U.N. Security Council voted unanimously Tuesday to extend the mandate of the 160,000-member multinational force in Iraq.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this

Whereas in Fatima-land, they don’t waste a whole lot of effort trying to talk the suicidal out of killing themselves. They just try to target them towards something they dislike. “I’m going to jump!” said the desperate Palestinian out on the ledge. “Try to land on a Jew!” said the suicide hotline counselor. It’s not the way Americans would handle it, but still it’s a sort of win-win, really.

By Today's Bumper Sticker

November 28, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this

We’re getting them killed over there, so we don’t have to do it here.

The Bush-Cheney Doctrine in regards to US soldiers, marines and airmen.

By I Voted for the War But Can't Fight Because I'm a Chimp

November 28, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

I never evolved.

And I’m a coward

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

Diogenes,

Our country has managed to succeed with freedom from authoritarian control since its founding, and indeed its principles were meant to insure that we remain free of tyranny.

In the past we have wanted to be “Americans” and that has unified us and given us something to “belong to” over and above our immediate family and social organizations.

Unfortunately, and to our great peril, there are movements afoot that promote everything BUT the benefits of national unity - and this movement is filled with contemptous and contemptible disrespect for the institutions and traditions that unify us.

By Sal

November 28, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

Little “I voted” wants sooo badly to be a Nazi but just can’t pull it off. Too cowardly and too stupid even for that. What’s a repug runt to do?

By I Voted for the War But Don't Fight Because My Teacher Molested Me

November 28, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this

I spend every waking moment I’m not blogging thinking fondly of him…

By Buy Danish

November 28, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this

RW,

Diogenes is terrified of groups, yet she is a card carrying member of the Darwiniac Society.

I guess she’s looking for an excuse to belong to such an authoritarian group.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 28, 2006 07:07 PM | Link to this

By Sal November 28, 2006 06:58 PM Little “I voted” wants sooo badly to be a Nazi but just can’t pull it off. Too cowardly and too stupid even for that. What’s a repug runt to do?

One minute you are making war for the Jews and Israel, next minute you want to stuff them into the ovens.

Oh wait a minute, that’s what’s going on inside the head of your average liberal.

Shewwww, good to know I’m not the psycho.

By RW-(the original)

November 28, 2006 07:10 PM | Link to this

Andy,

One of the posters here is now saying that we don’t have the evidence of birds evolving from dinosaurs, because they did it all at once in their eggs. Through punctuated equilibrium Mom and Pop Smith Dinosaur have an egg that hatches as a male bird and Mom and Pop Jones Dinosaur have an egg that hatches as a female bird and they happily populate the bird species while the dinosaurs disappear.

In this magic bird theory I haven’t been told yet whether these two birds become all the birds or whether different dinosaur families laid magic eggs that became different birds, but other than that it’s proof positive that Darwin was right and explains why nobody can find any proof of it.

And they call believers gullible…..