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By IVoted for The War Even Though I am a Coward
November 24, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this
But I am a drunken cheerleader, just like my hero Dumbya.
By I Voted for the War Because I'm a Chickenhawk
November 24, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this
This cartoon sucks.
It would be funnier if it were me and my butt instead of Santa and a chimney.
By Diogenes
November 24, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this
Mike,
After sullying the reputation of the turkey for the past two weeks by repeated comparisons to the Republicans, you now intend to besmirch Santa’s reputation by comparing him to the numerous problems created by the long regime of the Republicans? Oh, Mike. Be a little more original, please. Today I forgive you the lack of originality because I know your stomach is full of roast beef (who can face another turkey yesterday after the job you’d done on them?). Although not a terribly original idea, it does indeed describe the dynamics of the Bush War with indelicate accuracy.
By George H. W.
November 24, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this
I wish I had pulled out 60 years ago.
Bad seed, even for a Bush.
By Goldie
November 24, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this
Happy Thanksgiving, Lucko! Similar to America’s situation in Iraq, Santa is totally scr%wed, getting himself stuck in the chimney!
By Ghost of Koresh
November 24, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this
This sumbritch Dumbya is crazier than I ever was.
By Mike
November 24, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this
Super-partisan doodler strikes again.
We get it Mike. You hate Bush.
By WashingtonState
November 24, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
Mike,
I have to agree with you. As incompetent as Bush was in listening to his neocon advisers, you have to wonder where they have all disappeared to. Last I heard, they were still saying that invading Iraq was a great idea, but the administration was FUBAR in carrying our the actual operation. Funny how reality is so often different from the grand schemes. Funny how the people responsible are turning on Bush and dumping all the blame on him.
By Will Jones
November 24, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this
It is a moral certainty supported by science, logic, and legal evidence, both photographic and eyewitness: the Bush administration committed 9-11. Lies of WMD compounded that treason to send us to false war on behalf of Roman Catholic “Big Oil” (The Bushes have fronted for Vatican-banker Rockefellers - who built Standard Oil on unredressed “murder and arson” - for four generations. Google “Prescott Thyssen Auschwitz”), the Maronite and Chaldean Roman Catholics of the Middle East, and, global Organized Crime heroin sales.
Bringing to justice these traitors:
who cheated Bush into office through electoral fraud and the illegal and unconstitutional votes of the Supreme Court’s Roman Catholic bloc in “Bush v. Gore;”
who placed and detonated the explosives which dropped the three WTC buildings and fired a missile into the Pentagon;
who invaded Afghanistan, reinvigorated heroin production there, and tried to give U.S. ports to heroin transhipper Dubai;
who fabricated false intelligence to sway Congress and the American People into tolerating and paying for the long-planned invasion of sovereign, non-threatening, oil-rich Iraq;
who distracted the Electorate with issues of gay marriage while their leadership consists primarily of hypocritical closeted homosexuals like George W. Bush, Ken Mehlman, Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, and possibly Karl Rove, whose father was an open practicing homosexual;
will be a start to “pull Santa out of the chimney.”
2900 of Our Armed Forces have died for this current lie. Our G.I.’s blood is too precious to be spent on further treason, and those who falsely sent them into harm’s way must be punished.
As we strengthen Our Nation through a return to righteousness and prosperity born of decency and justice a program of repair must be pursued for the evil committed by the Bush administration. Full expropriation of the families’ and institutions’ riches gained by this treason and the treason surrounding Bush’s father’s role in the Knight of Malta-led CIA’s assassination of John Kennedy, to keep us in Rome’s fiefdom of Vietnam, will go far toward paying for the compensation due those wronged.
Annuit Coeptis…genuine Americans must never forget.
By Midori
November 24, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this
Mike @ 9:32: is that all you have to say, day in and day out? Is it your belief that somehow Mike L. will listen to your whining and crying and not follow his mind when he draws a cartoon?
Just what is your point exactly?
By Dusty
November 24, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this
Well, call the ACLU. Luckovich is even discriminating against Santa Claus. I mean, how low can you get. I protest and demand Santa rights.
May you receive a full bucket of coal for Christmas, Mike, and I will be glad to add a few chunks myself. A new Christmas book will come out entitled “Mike and His Christmas Clunkers” edited by the Grinch.
And Diogenes, it is NOT the Bush War. It is the War against Terrorism. We are fighting the terrorists, not the President of the USA. Remember?
By Diogenes
November 24, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this
Dusty (1020),
“It is the War against Terrorism. We are fighting the terrorists”
I’m not the one you need to tell.
By Dusty
November 24, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this
Will Jones,
When you have escaped the netherlands of your darkened mind, please post again. What you are currently posting is beyond reason and therefore ruled as babble. Try something else. Thank you.
By Fried green porkrinds
November 24, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this
Cartoon Review: Mike today chose Nancy Pelosi as the subject. She was the one who replaced her old chimney a few weeks ago with a narrower opening. Bush is the quagmired santa on her roof, ( check out the rain-ears).
Boy did Lucky get in the holiday spirit. he must have met someone. the lucky skunk. Why cant I ever get the girl. I never get the girl…ever. ever not one damn time i hate xmas, i hate the world, nuke iran!
By Will Jones
November 24, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this
“Dusty” If you really care about America, read “The New Pearl Harbor,” by PhD Emeritus Professor David Ray Griffin.
Bush is the “terrorist.” His administration committed 9-11 and Iraq is false war treason.
It is no coincidence that his father helped assassinate JFK, that his grandfather was Hitler’s banker, and that his family has fronted for the Vatican-banker Rockefellers, who built Standard Oil in unredressed “murder and arson,” for four generations.
It is, in fact, “Bush’s war.” Use the rights due you as an American…to include thinking and reading.
By Dusty and Diogenes
November 24, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this
Dusty and Diogenes think cartoons have rules.
Stick to your day blogs. Then stick to your chin.
Then stfu.
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 24, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
Al-Qaeda blamed for attacks on Shias that kill 150 in Baghdad
Business as usual for Al Qaeda but check this out:
By rushncrap November 23, 2006 02:21 PM Ah yes, our brilliant Commander-in-Chimp. 3.5 years after the start of this idiotic war we have the deadliest day yet. I guess it’ll be a real Thanksgiving when this idiot steps down.
Anybody want to tell me WTF Bush has got to do with Al Qaeda murdering innocent civilians ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN MEDIA AND THEIR ANTI-WAR PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN???
Those are your corpses rushncrap, you sh-ithole.
Merry Christmas!
RW: Consider this about your Waco dust up with rushncrap, that sissy would be the first to blame collateral damage deaths on US soldiers in situations where the soldiers didn’t even know the innocents were there but then he turns around and excuses Reno from killing children that she knew in advance were in the building and CHOSE to proceed with force.
How sincere is that?
By Dusty
November 24, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
Diogenes,
At 8:49 you called it the Bush War. Remember?
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 24, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this
The people that founded this country:
When they came to Delfs-Haven they found the ship and all things ready, and such of their friends as could not come with them followed after them, and sundry came from Amsterdam to see them shipt, and to take their leaves of them. One night was spent with little sleep with the most, but with friendly entertainment and Christian discourse, and other real expressions of true Christian love.
Merry Christmas!
1. Al Qaeda endorsed the Democrats’ victory. Of course we shouldn’t be thankful for the American voters casting ballots in a way that is met with approval from al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Hamza al-Muhajir (“They voted for something reasonable in the last elections,” he said), but this episode of Spanish elections redux (post-Madrid train bombings) gives cause to scream “Told you so!” over the gravy to every appeasement-loving lefty this Thanksgiving. It’s as simple as mashing potatoes: If al Qaeda hates George W. Bush with such vitriol (“the most stupid president,” said al-Muhajir), he must be doing something right. He’s scaring them. He’s keeping them on the run. He’s taking the fight to them. When al-Qaeda starts lashing out at Pelosi as their most bad enemy in the whole wide world, we’ll talk.
By Diogenes
November 24, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
Dusty (1049),
“At 8:49 you called it the Bush War. Remember?”
Indeed. It is the Bush War. I propose merely that Bush, after starting this conflagration, forgot the purpose. His dithering is confusing all of us. LTCMars in our conversation yesterday stated that the troops in Iraq think it is a war for the hearts and minds of the people and suggested that they were actually doing a good job in that regard. Also the death toll in Iraq yesterday was intolerable. Cheney is on his way to Saudi Arabia today. Yes, I think Bush lost the focus on terrorism and has taken on so many enemies, both real and imagined, that he has lost track of what he set out to do. I was hinting that you need to remind the eponymous namer of this war of his goals.
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 24, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
Well, well, look at this:
Democratic leaders in the House are floating plans to contribute billions of federal dollars to the individual 401(k) plans and similar accounts that corporate America has already made widely popular.
Democrats stealing Bush’s idea of investing your retirement plan in the stock market and making it their own. By changing the name of the “stock market” into “401k” and counting on the ignorance of the comedy channel liberals not knowing that the 401k is the stock market.
So what was the great big liberal hissy fit against the Bush plan all about last summer?
How many other things did you pinkos trump up just so you could bash Bush with them?
Like the war, maybe?
Like Bush is an idiot, for sure?
Now that the real idiots, Pelosi and Reid are in office and can’t hide behind the moonbat slogans anymore, Bush and the Republicans will look like Einstein by the end of next year.
Merry Christmas!
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 24, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this
By IVoted for The War Even Though I am a Coward November 24, 2006 08:10 AM But I am a drunken cheerleader, just like my hero Dumbya.
NG-A: You can keep on with the personal attacks, if that’s what gets you excited, but don’t be surprised when you get some of your own medicine back in spades.
You will not be happy about it, anymore.
By @@
November 24, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this
Oh come on ml. It’s the day after Thanksgiving and you’re stuffing Santa already? Radical leftists always looking to “rush”.
Why is defeat and despair the only thing you’ll accept?
My goodness, just last week, Hillary chided Abizaid for his optimistic predictions for stabilizing Iraq. “Hope is not a strategy,” she said. Is Hillary your Missus?
Abizaid responded “Nor is despair. When I come to Washington, (or view Mike Luckovich’s cartoon) I feel despair,” he said. “When I’m in Iraq with my commanders, when I talk to our soldiers, when I talk to the Iraq leadership, they are not despairing.”
Those are people with their boots on the ground in Iraq, and here I see you with your boots up in the air. Are you giving Hillary’s “hehehe” a hardy “hohoho” down there in the soot?
By Dusty
November 24, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this
Will Jones,
I do think and read, but not every far left wing conspiracy book that comes out. I don’t read the National Inquirer either. These scrape-the-bottom types indulge in twisted mind theories and fallacies that don’t appeal to anyone with the least bit of mental equilibrium.
You need to ask yourself why you want to read this type of “literature”.
By Midori
November 24, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this
this is the America that Dusty and Andy wants
By Andy
November 24, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this
Al Queda liked Whitney Houston’s Boxed Set 2
Try using italics, it might make it easy to understand when you’re quoting sources.
Sic Semper HacksRus
By Will Jones
November 24, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this
Dusty, Don’t want your made-up mind to be confused by the facts?
Have you bothered watching Norman Mineta’s eyewitness sworn testimony, at the 2nd 9-11 Commission hearing, of Cheney’s stand-down order before the missile was allowed to strike the Pentagon? http://youtube.com/watch?v=fTdAkhd6Dcw
The list goes on…
By Dusty
November 24, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this
Diogenes,
Bush hasn’t forgotten the purpose of this war. You have.
The troops on the ground haven’t forgotten the purpose of this war. You have.
I haven’t forgotten the purpose of this war. You have.
This is still the war on terrorism. Remember?
By Diogenes
November 24, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
Your 1049 and my 1100. I’m not the only one who styles this the Bush War. The election day results also indicate that a large percentage of the American electorate is disatisfied with the way the war is being conducted. They too believe that Bush has dithered until he has forgotten the original purpose.
By Diogenes
November 24, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
From your 1117, am I to presume that you are satisfied with the conduct and course of this Bush War? I doubt that you are. I daresay that you are as dissatisfied with the death toll as the rest of us, that you are as dissatisfied with the fact that Irqis think tribally, not nationally, as our troops try to build a national army for them as the rest of us. I would guess that you are as dissatisfied with the fact that we are fighting Syrians, paid by Iran, as the rest of us? As I said, Dusty, it’s the Bush War, and I doubt that you are any more convinced that Bush has a clear plan for its conclusion than any of the rest of us.
By Dusty
November 24, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this
Midori,
Thanks for trying to tell me what I think about America or want for our country. Fortunately, I don’t need you or an old Orwell movie to direct me. I’ve known for a long time what a great country we live in. My appreciation is unlimited.
Why don’t you work with Will Jones? He’s more your type and could use your “help”.
By Dusty
November 24, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this
Diogenes,
Follow the left wing crowd and you might call this war whatever you wish, probably anything to depreciate the President of the United States.
Of course I am dissatisfied with the death toll in this war against terrorism. I hate the death toll in Viet Nam, Korea, WWII, WWI, Spanish American, Civil War, Revolutionary War and on and on. But I am very happy to be FREE.
Decisions are not always perfect or will they ever be. Perhaps, in your case, you are the one exception. Maybe that is why you expect perfection for those who have to make even the most difficult decisions.
I support our president because he is strong, smart and ethical, not because he is perfect.
By Diogenes
November 24, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
Then we’re in the same boat, just as I anticipated. I support our President because he is the President and we are between elections.
By Jesus
November 24, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By Who Really Cares Who I Really Am, Anyway?
November 24, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this
You’re all confused.
Bush couldn’t have forgotten the “purpose of the war.” There really never WAS a cohesive, comprehensible one TO forget.
Ca-CHING.
By candide
November 24, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this
Mike got it exactly perfect today!
By Diogenes
November 24, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
Don’t forget the election results and what they indicate. I am sure that many Republican moderates, feeling discontent with the death toll in Bush’s War, expressed that dissatisfaction with a vote for the Democrat of their choice. I do agree that Republican corruption was a serious factor in that leftward movement. Some pundits say one; some say the other. Take your pick. The blue ties won the majority. The overwhelming question is “are the rascals we elected any better than the rascals we showed the door?” That is yet to be seen. As for all your laudatory comments for our President, I caution you to be a little less effusive in his praise. He is the President until the next election.
By Cartoonist gone wild
November 24, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this
The Miami Herald building has been evacuated because a mad cartoonist with a gun showed up in the news room. Has anyone seen Luckovich?
By Midori
November 24, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this
Cartoonist gone wild,
It had to be Michael Ramirez. he’s the only cartoonist I’m aware of that positively reeks.
Dusty,
Lest we forget:
War is PEACE.
Ignorance is BLISS.
Fight them over there, so we won’t have to fight them over HERE.
By Diogenes
November 24, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
Got to go shelf books. Bye now.
By Midori
November 24, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this
“Gosh,” professional pundits and pseudo-journalists like Tim Russert and Katie Couric wonder, “how did American politics become so ‘polarized?”’ One assumes it is a sarcastic rhetorical question. The how and why of America’s polarization is after all, as obvious as it was intentional. Most absurd, however, is the way in which the Russerts, Blitzers, and Courics of the world tend to blame the so-called liberals for America’s polarized condition.
For the better part of twenty years blathering buffoons like Rush Limbaugh, mouth-frothing morons like Sean Hannity, bigots like Michael Savage, and liberal assassination supporting bit…ladies like Ann Coulter have been making it their business to ensure that the “Conservative Crusaders” understood who America’s real enemy was. Then along came FOX “News” and before the country knew what had hit, the entire Republican Party propaganda network — the people that started and declared the “culture war” — was busy telling the GOP faithful that the LIBERALS were waging a war against CONSERVATIVES … against “American values,” Christianity, and anybody that disagreed with “their secularist agenda.”
“Hmmm…just how did the country become so polarized,” ask the so-called journalists.“>http://www.progressivedailybeacon.com/more.php?page=opinion&id=1357)
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 24, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this
Skank @ 12:42: Your a-ss still stings from Air America flaming out, don’t it?
Sweet, non partisan “can’t we all just get along” Huffington Post is gone too, they just don’t know it yet.
By rushncap
November 24, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this
Sorry Dusty, our “President” is not strong (he is stubborn) and he is not ethical (he simply redefines ethics to fit him). As for “smart” I’ll assume that was a joke, and a good one at that.
By @@
November 24, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this
When looking in the “far-left margins” of Midori’s Progressive Daily Beacon link, it would appear that Huffs & Puffs are in order, or out.
Whatever…
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
How would rushncap know what “ethical” is?
How would rushncap know what “strong” is?
How would rushncap know what “smart” is?
CC: Lying rushncap
By Midori
November 24, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
Andy,
where would your vocabulary be if there were no insults and other epithets involved?
you seem to be more worried about Air America and the Huffington Post than I am. Both are fine and will do fine. Unlike your propaganda filled media.
Too bad you don’t learn anything from listening and reading from those sites.
Oh well, Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Don’t take it out on me because your party is full of scum and vermin. I suppose you have to stick with like-minded company in order to feel like a “man”, don’t you?
By Midori
November 24, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this
@@ & Andy,
you want to comment on the merits of the information I posted.
seems dead on to me.
looks like your puppet masters are in their “last throes”.
By Midori
November 24, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this
Rushncap,
How would Buy Danish know what “ethical” is?
How would Buy Danish know what “strong” is?
How would Buy Danish know what “smart” is?
CC: Idiot Buy Danish
By rushncap
November 24, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this
Very simple, Danish. I look at people like Gandi, Spartacus, Solzhenitsyn, Sakharov, Einstein and my father. Then I look at Bush, Cheney, DeLay, Rove, Rummy, Wolfowitz, Perle, you, li’l andy, RW, Fallwell, Robertson and bin Laden. If a member of the first group was likely to do or believe something, chances are it would be ethical, strong or smart or all of the above. If it’s something that’s likely to be believed by the latter group, chances are it’s none of the above.
See how easy that was?
P.S. I see you’re still endlessly amused by your ingenious “CC” bit. Kudos.
By Huge
November 24, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this
Midori,
I laugh when I see that even CNN has jumped on the idiot, far right talking head bandwagon with Glenn whatshisname. Somebody should tell them that they’re about a dozen years too late, and all he’s good for is laughs!
And now that POS Gingrich is acting like some great agent of understanding and concilliation. Like many of the other disgusting neo-cons, he is absolutely repulsive; but will probably be roundly endorsed by the usual nut cases, here and elsewhere…
By @@
November 24, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this
Midori:
The blue dogs want to reshape the Democratic party. No room for the DU’s, HP’s or Airhead Americans.
And in the comments section, they describe Dean as the leader who can direct the party? That’s just too extreme for comprehension.
The extreme left is in their “last throes”.
Throw that book at Pelosi, not me.
By N-GA
November 24, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this
Hey Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter),
I see you are obsessing about me by attributing the posts of others to me. So pathetic, so stupid. You are a peckerwood of the first order. I don’t need to post under an alias like you do. My words are my own, and I take responsibility for them…unlike you.
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this
@@,
Midori lives in a parallel universe. Let’s parse her hilarious article.
More than thirty years ago, the Republican Party set out on a mission to divide the country. Early on they used race-based wedge issues to make inroads into the South.
How Orwellian. Here’s a sampling of the absurdidty of that statement -
A 92 year old woman is accidentally shot after she shoots at Atlanta police officers, and within 2.5 seconds the racist, anti-Semitic Nation of Islam show up to accuse them of racism - an amazing trick if you don’t even see what your assailant looks like. Who is making this a “wedge issue”?
The Progressives get discriminatory race-based affirmative programs put in place and we are told that WE use race as a “wedge issue”.
An organization forms and calls itself “The Congressional Black Caucus” and we are told that WE use race as a “wedge issue.”
Democrats run ads about James Byrd and claim that George Bush and Republicans don’t want to prosecute a crime that was prosecuted, and Conservatives are blamed for using race as a “wedge issue”.
Life-sentenced murderer Willie Horton goes on a furlough granted him thanks to the largesse of Michael Dukakis, brutally rapes a woman who could not have cared less about the race of her assailant, and Conservatives are called racists for using the furlough policy against Dukakis during his Presidential campaign. The race of the furloughed inmate becomes the issue, not the program that allowed his release and we are told that we use race as a “wedge issue”.
Black Panther Mumia Abu Jamal is found guilty of the murder of a policeman because of overwhelming evidence of his guilt. Progressives are still trying to free him, yet we’re told that WE use race as a “wedge-issue”.
I could write a multi-volumed book about all the occasions where Progressives used race as a wedge-issue.
And I’ve only parsed one paragraph in this ludicrous op-ed.
This is why people like Midori are called “moonbats”.
By Midori
November 24, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this
The U.S. disaster in Iraq was created by seemingly competent officials blinded by ideological hubris. With mounting American and Iraqi deaths, will reality-based policy finally prevail?
wondering what the silly Bush bots will now have to say about Salon.
“NANCY PELOSI READS IT. THEREFORE, IT CAN’T BE TRUE”
I can hear you now.
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this
Rushcap,
How dare you butt in and respond to me. That comment was directed to Dusty.
Midori the moonbat Parrot,
YOU are complaining about someone else using “epithets”? Do you have amnesia or possibly alzheimers?
By rushncap
November 24, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this
LOL, Danish. You’re such a little retarded moonbat. How’s that working out for you?
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 02:25 PM | Link to this
Huge Mullah,
Are you referring to Glenn Beck and his expose’ on your Islamist pals?
You know, the ones like you who use terms like “Pollute” to describe the views of “infidels” they disagree with and must destroy.
Why do you say it’s a “dozen years too late”? Do you have your dirty bomb in place?
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this
To Whom it may concern,
rushncap is a pathological liar and calls others “unethical”
rushncap is a coward who will not admit his persistent lies, and runs to Mommy when he gets caught, yet has the gall to criticize others for not being “strong”.
rushcap gets caught time and time again at his juvenile games yet thinks that he is “smarter” than everyone else.
By rushncap
November 24, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
Oh oh, I was not CC’ed! What gives, Muffin? You don’t love me any more? Awwww…
Of course if one were to ask our Muffin where I “lied” she’ll run home screaming, so I won’t dare to do that to her fragile mental balance.
By @@
November 24, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this
You know Buy Danish. Earlier this morning I saw postings from Will Jones with his “Loose Marbles” theory, then Midori enters with George Orwell’s 1984 fiction.
Orwell pushed his Utopian/Dystopian garbage to profit literally. Orwell was a vagabond, living hand-to-mouth. Never aspired to do anything but to instill fear in the oppressed. He must have been thinking that his misery deserved company so he sent out invitations dated “1984”.
It just boggles my mind that people would follow him in search of the utopia he never intended to find.
Anyway, I’m out for awhile. Have fun.
Midori: I don’t know if Pelosi reads Salon. I just know I don’t
Rushncap: You said I appeal to you because of my intellectual honesty. It’s time to find some of your own.
By rushncap
November 24, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this
@@, I said you’re more honest that the rest of the right-wing freaks here. This is not necessarily flattery, think someone telling you that you’re faster that Stephen Hawking. Although you’re heading down fast, most of your recent posts have had absolutely no substance, and are simply attempts at attacking me. Of course you’ll need more practice to get as vicious and stupid as some of your “friends” here, but I’m sure you can work on that.
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this
The lie:
By rushncap November 22, 2006 01:30 PM
HJ: the solution that Danish seems to propose to our situation is quite lovely, isn’t it? She claims that we are being attacked by Muslims for our liberties. Her solution is for America to become less democratic, stifle dissention, stifle choice. I guess she thinks that if we become a Christian version of Pakistan the Islamic terrorists will feel a kinship with us and stop attacking us. Gotta bow down to her brilliance.
The coverup:
By rushncap November 22, 2006 05:04 PM
Sandy Muffin, I —was— commenting about war in Iraq, and my comments were directed to someone else. So when you butt into a conversation, do try to figure out what’s being discussed. That way you might hide your stupidity for a skosh (sp?) longer.
By rushncap
November 24, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this
Muffin, dear, you often get p-o’ed at people (like myself) who express dissent with El Presidente and our war in Iraq. You have said before that we should just shut the hell up and support him. This is not an exact quote. This is simply a statement of your overall bent on this board.
And you really should learn the meaning of the term “coverup”.
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
@@,
I think Orwell mostly got it right, but Big Brother is the Left not the Right.
The leftist elites, then as now, praised the book for the wrong reasons. They applauded Orwell’s resistance to the loss of civil liberties but refused, and continue to refuse, to see the book as a mirror held up to the totalitarian face of the left-wing intelligentsia.
{It} makes more sense to look to socialism rather than fascism as the butt of Orwell’s satire, especially after Animal Farm, his 1945 satire of socialist revolution.
This is an excellent op-ed about Liberal bloggers on the subject of Orwell:
While many liberals love to quote George Orwell’s great novel “1984,” when asked about “Animal Farm,” another novel written by Orwell, they fall silent, unable to see the parallels between themselves and rebellious farm animals that evict the farmer and take over the farm for themselves.
Many liberals declare that the only enemy America has today is Bush. In “Animal Farm” the old boar tells the other animals that “Man is the only real enemy we have.” If the animals could rid themselves of man, their lives would be perfect.
Read on. I think we all recognize “Jerry” right here, there, and everywhere in the moonbat blogosphere.
By RW-(the original)
November 24, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this
Here’s a lie from rushncap:
By rushncap November 23, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this Because according to RW, if it’s a Christian terrorist (Koresh) he should be loved and coddled, if it’s an Muslim terrorist he should be burned along with his whole country or neighboring country, if that’s politically easier.
That was yesterday right after I had again confronted him about another bald faced lie he told the day before.
Buy Danish,
I don’t know why he would think anyone would go running from a challenge to point out a rushncap lie, all you have to do is pick a day and find one of his posts.
By RW-(the original)
November 24, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this
Here’s another one from the same day as the one Buy Danish. In fact this rushncap post is very short and has multiple lies in it. See how many you can spot:
By rushncap November 22, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this RW, don’t flatter yourself. @@ herself brought you up, not me, so go deal with her. She then began whining and wagging her finger at me when I responded to her. Trust me, RW, you’re not that important, I usually don’t deal with you until you actually are here. So buzz off.
By RW-(the original)
November 24, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this
Wow! The 3:38 from rushncap today is another lie, well it’s possible he’s just stupid enough to believe that so maybe it’s not technically a lie.
By rushncap
November 24, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this
I thought you were going to point out where it is I’m lying, RW. Oh well, guess not.
By RW-(the original)
November 24, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
This may be why rushncap went out of his way to say he wasn’t directly quoting you.
By rushncap November 22, 2006 06:15 PM By the way, what RW complained about in the very post you were referring to was that companies that have insurance policies for gay couples would “have artificially high prices”. This is a direct quote.
He still can’t find that “direct quote” from me and yesterday he decided to try to weasel out of the claim.
By RW-(the original)
November 24, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this
rushncap,
When someone posts something and you change the meaning to suit your needs and then claim the other person said it, you are lying.
Since you can’t recognize that, you have no credibility when you attempt to lecture on honesty and ethics. You are either the dumbest man on the planet or a particularly vicious liar and slanderer. I’ve had legitimate debates with you so even though you are a little slow, you don’t qualify as dumb enough to get away with this.
Therefore you are a vicious liar, but don’t take that as a hint to change anything. It warns everyone to take anything you claim as fact with a healthy dose of skepticism.
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 24, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this
rusncrap @ 1:57: Nice move there claiming Einstein as your own:
“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.”
Welcome to the club, homey.
Why don’t you grab Lincoln, Washington, Reagan, Freidman, Limbaugh and Edmund Burke while you’re at it?
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this
Rushncap thinks I don’t know the meaning of the word, “coverup”? The question is what he thinks it is. Something chicks wear to the beach over their bathingsuits?
RW,
Do you recall me ever saying that people who disagree with George Bush should STFU or anything even remotely like that?
I have repeatedly said that there are legitimate criticisms against the war that I may disagree with, but are intellectually honest and don’t have the destruction of the United States as its purpose.
The only person I have ever suggested STFU is Polly Prepuce - not for his opinions, but for his nonsensical has-been vaudevillian spamming.
Indeed, I encourage people like rushncap to keep talking so they can reveal themselves for all to see.
I have pointed out how Useful Idiots like rushncap inadvertently help Islamists secure power. I have suggested that there is a difference between “dissent” and “sedition”.
For all his self-acclaimed smarts, rushncap does not know the difference between the two.
He lies to us, and worse, he lies to himself.
By RW-(the original)
November 24, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
That’s why I said the 3:38 was at the very least a gross misrepresentation of your position.
Speaking of truth and ethics, rushncap told us the other day he has students, since he claims to work in a wet lab, let’s say he teaches people in a wet lab. (Feel free to correct this rushcap) He has also told us that he charges people to tutor them.
If all of that is true it is certainly unethical to be a paid instructor and tutor for cash on the side. Of course after being “taught” by rushncap I have no doubt in my mind that these kids will need tutoring.
By Spike
November 24, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this
Don’t you Repugs just love the events taking place in Iraq? Never, ever forget that every ounce of it - plus what’s yet to come - is the responsibility of Trooper Bush and all his ignorant fellow travelers. The whole thing has for years been totally predictable. Now go out and buy a new little toy in order to keep your little minds off the subject. Scum,
By Abe
November 24, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this
“Bad Seed Bush.” I love it!
From “G.H.W. Bailout and slaughter my crew at Chi-Chi Jima Bush” to “Neil Eldorado multi-felonious Bush” to “Jeb Schiavo & screw the school children Bush.” To “G.W. Schiavo alcoholic cowardly megalomaniacal mission-accomplished Bush.” What a proud lot are they!
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this
Spike,
You know all about “scum” - Tub scum to be precise.
What is going on in Iraq is the responsibility of the savages who commit acts of depravity.
By RW-(the original)
November 24, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this
Before I run out to fill the pantry, which bathtub character does everyone think Spike will come back as to tell himself how “spot on” he is?
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this
RW,
Abe.
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this
RW,
Woops! He already did Abe. I predict Clem is next. Or maybe Jean.
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 24, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this
Spike: When Al Qaeda blows up innocent people in Iraq they are also counting on the left wing media to use their attack to turn the American public against the war making them cut and run.
Al Qaeda will then be able to enslave the whole country under fanatical religious oppression.
So Bin Laden salutes you and your efforts, trooper. I’ll bet he’d pin a star on your chest if he could.
P.S. WTF are you talking about with the toy? Is this some kind of psycho socialist codeword or what?
By Midori
November 24, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this
Heh
donald trump is a shrewd sense of character
you can tell he’s never met Dusty and Buy Danish.
By Midori
November 24, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this
Andy,
why don’t you wipe that spittle from your mouth before blasting on all fours?
you want to short circuit my monitor?
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 24, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this
Skank: Wipe this off.
By Clem
November 24, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
Hey there, all you Repunk Neocons. It’s Thanksgiving weekend. Loosen up. Slip into those long gangsta shorts. Ease into a giant-sized tee. Also some filthy flipflops. Top it all off with an intellectual ballcap. Now you’re just about ready. Be talking to a like-minded imbecile on your cell phone, insert those keys into your PU/SUV, rev it up, spin some gravel, head on down to your sportsbar and order up your courage by the glass/bottle. It’s the only kind you’ll ever get. But must you look so ridiculous “getting” it???
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this
Midori (the foolish parrot),
Trump was not talking about their character.
If you can’t read a simple story like that and get it straight, how can you possibly understand complex issues?
You can’t.
By Robert
November 24, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this
Our hero, the Great Christian Crusader, heads out to other lands again on Monday. Lands that suddenly all need to be conquered - and He is the Decider and the Conqueror. A mighty brain attached to a mighty warrior. Other heads of nations laugh in his very presence. Even as he shouts, “Bring It On!!!” Praise the Lord! Is He impressive, or what!
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this
{{By Buy Danish - November 24, 2006 04:59 PM}}
{{RW -Woops! He already did Abe. I predict Clem is next.}}
I’m psychic!!!!!!!!!!
Tubscum Clem shows up for the party
Jean - it’s your turn to jump in the dirty tub.
Rub a dub dub.
By Spike
November 24, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this
bi-danish. I honored you by mistakenly glancing at your crap.
You just stole my own words. Why do you insist upon eating off the plates of others? Be gone now. To that dark place where you inferiors dwell. One day you shall hear the cattle train whistle - and know that they are coming for you. Hark now - hush!
By Robert
November 24, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this
Very accurate Clem. Ever notice that some of our Negro friends are beginning to dress a bit “up” or at least better. The sight of whities dressed absurdly like blacks offends their eyes much as it does the rest of the world. Right, “dudes”?
By RW-(the original)
November 24, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Great call on Clem, you would have gotten double bonus points for Robert. I think you get a fifty point bonus for getting Mr. Bubble to come back as Spike for the second time in the same day though.
Fred, Abdul, where are you guys? Spike, Abe, and Robert are waiting.
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 24, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this
By Robert November 24, 2006 06:08 PM Very accurate Clem. Ever notice that some of our Negro friends are beginning to dress a bit “up” or at least better. The sight of whities dressed absurdly like blacks offends their eyes much as it does the rest of the world. Right, “dudes”?
Obviously has never gotten laid and must spend hours obsessing over what he wears. Most evenings out end up with PU/SUV spinning gravel out of the parking lot with every last eligible female on board. Robert left with the rest of the metrosexuals to think up silly as-s ideas about things they can’t even begin to understand and other stuff.
Not that there is anything wrong with the other stuff.
By Scott
November 24, 2006 06:30 PM | Link to this
Maybe, just maybe, the only U.S. troops that should remain in Iraq should be strictly relatives of those who supported and voted for Bush and his plans.
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this
RW,
Spike says “I just stole his own words.”
Like - “Rub a dub dub”?
Brilliant.
By @@
November 24, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this
Well crap, is rushncap still holding out? You put forth scientific theory, but:
The scientific method prescribes a simple, clear, precise and logical procedure that all scientists (((have to follow and which constitutes its strength.))) But the success of the method is as much due to its approach as to the qualities that its practice demands and cultivates. The first of these qualities is sincerity of purpose: the scientist must sincerely want to find the truth. He should not have other motives (((like personal gain or fame))) that could lead him astray. The next quality is intellectual honesty. (((If the facts))) put forth contradict his theory, he must accept that his theory is unsatisfactory and go back to the drawing board.
rushncap, you’ve failed the test of a scientist. Your intellectual honesty is in question. Going back to the drawing board to parse words is a weak defense.
R.W. and Buy Danish have put the facts before you, and still you refuse to be intellectually honest.
Give me honesty any day of any week. Without it, a persons intelligence must be called into question.
If nothing else, I can, at least say I’m honest. I’m not attacking you rushncap, I’m asking you to be what you say you are. A teacher, and promoter of science.
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this
Scott,
Don’t forget all the Democrat Congressmen and Senators who voted for the Iraq War.
Heck, if your plan works out Hillary will have to find someone to take her place in 2008. Dennis Kuchinich?
By RW-(the original)
November 24, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
He’s just upset that you didn’t type the next line:
{{six men and Jean in a tub}}
By Scientific American
November 24, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this
Scientific American, December 2006, p. 64.
“Water apparently covered large parts of the Martian surface for long periods, certainly very early in the planet’s history and perhaps also more recently. The implications are profound: if the eras of Earth-like conditions were frequent and long-lasting, the possibility that life evolved on Mars appears much more likely.”
Jim Bell Spirit Mars rover mission team.
By I Voted for the War Even Though Personally I'm a Coward
November 24, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this
You’re never gonna see a Nancy like me anywhere near a real battle!
By Scientific American
November 24, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this
Scientific American, December 2006, p.80.
“No other hominin skeleton of such antiquity — including Lucy — is as complete as this one. Moreover, as the earlist juvenile hominin ever found, the Dikika child provides an unprecendented opportunity to study growth processes in our ancient relatives. ‘If Lucy was the greatest fossil discovery of the 20th century,’ says Donald C. Johanson of Arizona State University, who unearthed the famous fossil in 1974, “then this baby is the greatest find of the 21st thus far.’”
By @@
November 24, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this
Damn, has rushncap gone from parsing words to defending himself because he’s a martian?
That saucer won’t fly either rushncap.
By George H. W.
November 24, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this
If I had pulled out of Barbara, the US wouldn’t have to pull out of Iraq…
By Buy Danish
November 24, 2006 07:05 PM | Link to this
RW,
Do you think they sing this? -
RUB-A-DUB-DUB - O! Hail Eris. Blessed St. Hung Mung.
Which comes from The Principia Discordia
Heavy.
By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It
November 24, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this
By I Voted for the War Even Though Personally I’m a Coward November 24, 2006 06:55 PM
I guess a yellow hand Andy jacker sissy liberal wouldn’t know that cutting and running is the same thing as being a coward.
Only worse.
And hiding behind someone else’s name is so brave, gosh.
I thank God I’m not a liberal.
By RW-(the original)
November 24, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this
@@,
Perhaps he thought it best to hide until Monday so he could claim none of this ever happened.
To whom it may concern,
I tested my theory by randomly searching the AJC web site and on my first attempt I found rushncap lying about the nature of Billy Jeff’s impeachment. Oddly he got his information from Chris Rock and when I confronted him on the wisdom of relying on Chris Rock for historical information, he defended it.
Oh, and yes, I do get some information from Chris Rock. He’s the pre-eminent comedian of our times (along with Jon Stewart). Better than Hannity and Rush, that’s for sure.
I like the cute obfuscation about Chris Rock being a great comic. I agree with that and I never said a word about his comic credentials, but that’s our lying little ethics professor.
By SwiftVoter
November 27, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this
*I CAN SEE THE WRITING IN THE SKY FOR THE SOLUTION TO THIS ILLEGAL AND IMMORAL WAR…. “SURRENDER W”