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I am sick of hearing the enormous lie that pulling out of Iraq is the same as “giving up on the war against terror,” or that not supporting the war in Iraq is in effect “supporting terrorism.” Who said the only way to fight terrorism is to throw billions of dollars and thousands of precious lives into a war against Iraqi insurgents? Has anyone else ever heard of the old saying, “There’s more than one way to skin a cat”? And what does “cut and run” really mean anyway?

Taking the resources being used in Iraq and devoting them to a more direct pursuit of terror cells in America and abroad would actually be a good thing. Just look to England, where authorities captured terror networks preparing to blow up more airliners. It seems to me that British actions have accomplished more to safeguard innocent civilians from future terror attacks than any recent military activity in Iraq.

Changing tactics in the war on terror should not be viewed as surrender. Versatility may very well be our path to victory.

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this

Yep, Good old Fox network broadcasting tabloid journalism…no surprise at all. At least a few stations refused to air this show. I doubt we’ll hear much dissent from the wingnuts here. They admire OJ for his business acumen and parenting skills.

By George

November 20, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this

Andy, you need help. Seriously!

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this

“Evolutionary psychiatrists” with a plan to save the world.

{{Two peace activists have planned a massive anti-war demonstration for the first day of winter.}}

{{The Global Orgasm for Peace was conceived by Donna Sheehan, 76, and Paul Reffell, 55, whose immodest goal is for everyone in the world to have an orgasm Dec. 22 while focusing on world peace.}}

What about all those people who live in that part of the world where December 22nd is December 23rd?

A small detail not considered by these wankers for peace.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this

By Proud Pinko Liberal November 20, 2006 08:20 AM I am sick of hearing the enormous lie that pulling out of Iraq is the same as “giving up on the war against terror,” or that not supporting the war in Iraq is in effect “supporting terrorism.” Who said the only way to fight terrorism is to throw billions of dollars and thousands of precious lives into a war against Iraqi insurgents? Has anyone else ever heard of the old saying, “There’s more than one way to skin a cat”? And what does “cut and run” really mean anyway?

My Lord, I can’t believe we put these people^^ in charge of our country:

DUBAI (AFP) - {{{{{{{{{{{Al-Qaeda’s Iraq chief}}}}}}}}} threatened in an audio message posted on the Internet that the terror network will {{{{{{{“blow up the White House.”}}}}}}}} “We announce today the end of a phase of the jihad (holy war) and the start of a new one… to usher in the project of an Islamic caliphate and restore Islam’s glory,” Abu Hamza al-Muhajer said in the message.

That’s great, no more fighting in Iraq, thousands of miles from our homeland, let’s bring these savages back to Washington D.C.

How naive.

The only way the libs are EVER going to get serious about the war on Islamic Fascism is when Al Qaeda starts making threats on the IRS building.

Then will kick their as-ses all over the Middle East.

By The Watcher

November 20, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this

Wankers for peace?

Check that chick for the 3 sixes under her hair line.

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I guess you must also believe that the opposite of wankers for peace would be Wankers for War…that would be You!

By Brian Curtis

November 20, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

It won’t save the world, but it’s cheaper than shopping. Find someone you love and take part, folks!

By Dusty

November 20, 2006 08:45 AM | Link to this

Proud Pinko Liberal,

How long before you wake up to reality? “Changing tactics should not be viewed as surrender but versatility” is what you wrote.

Liberals spell versatility as cutnrun. So do terrorists.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

I’m not “for war” - I am for securing peace through strength.

And unlike the wankers for peace, I’m not organizing a wank off. See the difference, idiot?

By the way, I’m glad you checked in because you need to educate yourself about Islamists, and stop making excuses for these lowlifes.

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

Bi-Danish,

I don’t need to educate myself about Islamists…I’ve lived among them. Now then, Islamic extremists are very much like Christian extremists.

Al Qaeda is analogous to the KKK.

Why am I even posting to you? You’re a complete dimwit!!

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

Granny,

You’re not for war? Complete BS. That’s like the banner I saw on the side of I-20 that said “There is a price for peace.” Only a complete idiot would try to convince even bigger idiots that the price of peace was war. I guess you also think the price of intelligence is stupidity. Well, you’ve got the second half down.

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

Mike,

It’s rather a tepid cartoon. It doesn’t really strike at the heart of the situation, which is that such puerile pap can be considered entertainment. That people will watch that drivel speaks so poorly of the American criteria for entertainment. I’m disgusted by the whole thing, as I believe you to be. Your cartoon does not convey your disgust with either the subject matter or with those who would watch it or read the book. Shameless!

By @@

November 20, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

Damn ml, you’re getting lazy. This toon has been up since Friday. Don’t you work Monday through Friday like everybody else?

You need to get on board with the Iraqis. They’re working all day everyday.

Fighting back: the city determined not to become al-Qaeda’s capital

They need a raise, but I doubt they’ll be getting one from you.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this

Granny,

Nobody is making excuses for Islamists. Everyone agrees they’re horrible criminals. I think what N-GA is saying is that you and your evangelical buddies are essentially the same thing as Islamists- zealous, dogmatic, deluded war mongers who base your ideology on ignorant children’s fantasies. I agree with him.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

Danish: I tend to agree with NG-A on the use of the word Wanker; after all he is an expert on the subject.

Therefore, I suggest that we call these pervert orgasmic liberals “tossers for tranquility.”

Or maybe “strokers for serenity.”

In the case of the more, er, metrosexual among us “rump humpers for reconciliation.”

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

I saw that guy you mentioned on the dolly on the New York City subway. You had tea with a few Arab “men”. What does that prove?

You are about as ignorant as they come if you think that the KKK (which has zero influence anymore anyway) represents Christians, and further that Christians represent a threat to the civilized world.

Freaking moron.

Stalker Boy,

You are an evil SOB psycho and the idea that you are for peace is a sick joke. But wank away if it makes you feel better.

Although, for the masterful plan to work you need to get the Western and Eastern hemispheres in synch.

Here’s a visual tool so the worldwide wankers for peace can mark their calendars.

I leave it to you Useful Idiot peaceniks to figure out how you coordinate the hours, and minutes, and days so you have a simultaneous peaceorgasm.

Otherwise, and I hate to be such a skeptic, I predict failure.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

Granny,

What a hypocrite! You’re telling someone else to educate themselves? With all the time on your hands from sitting around masturbating while the budding Log Cabin Republican is at school, you could be advancing your own education for the day when you decide to re-enter the job market just before you retire again. Instead of getting a real education, you peruse extreme rightwing fascist websites to find talking points to argue with people here. You are pathetic.

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

What is it the American people really want in Iraq? Sound political leadership? More of the dithering of Pope George II? Complete withdrawal, leaving the region unstable? That is the question? To be, or not to be.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

Stalker Boy,

Hate is oozing from your pores. Try to fake it at least. Maybe some really strong deodorant will help.

By @@

November 20, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Unions know who will butter their “pitas”. It’s the Democrats in Washington.

Union wants to organize airport screeners.

Union terrorists in charge of airport security?

By @@

November 20, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

Women prepared to rule, unlike Nancy Pelosi.

The women followed the lead of others who have challenged men’s interpretation of Islam. Women such as Asra Nomani, who entered a West Virginia mosque, defying the rule that women cannot pray there with men. She said she wants to usher “Islam into the 21st century, reclaiming the voice that the prophet gave us 1,400 years ago.” The weekend gathering suggested feminist reform could become a significant movement.

The United States has pushed for Muslim countries, particularly in the Middle East, to mimic achievements that took centuries in Western societies. Such cajoling is resented. It risks overshadowing debates between moderates and extremists that are more fundamental to the future. Better if Egyptians and Muslim feminists can lead the way.

By getalife

November 20, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this

And of course, I was right and the “neonuts” were wrong.

Rangel will seek the draft, to make a point “There’s no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm’s way,” Rep. Charles Rangel said. Rangel will seek the draft, to make a point “There’s no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm’s way,” Rep. Charles Rangel said.

Seriously, why bother to post when you have absolutely no credibility.

Join the reality based community, if you will.

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

I find it fascinating that wingnuts are such complete and utter hypocrites.

They are adamant that tax cuts help the economy expand because people have more money to spend.

But then they strongly oppose raising the minimum wage saying that employers will have to lay people off. What stupid hypocrisy.

If employers fire workers instead of giving them raises, then either productivity will drop, or customer service will suffer. Also, higher wages will give them more to spend (remember Henry Ford?), pay more taxes and SSN, etc. Following the logic here?

Finally, large employers already pay higher than minimum wage. It’s the McDonalds, etc. that will take the hit. So now a Big Mac will cost a nickel more? Maybe Buy Danish will limit herself to only 2 Big Macs, a large fry, an apple pie and a large diet coke every day for lunch.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Does that reality based community of yours require repeating quotes to get your “point” across?

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

@@ (947)

Women in the mosques. That will definitely confuse the issue. I presume that such behavior will be regarded as “decadent” by the hard line Muslims. That’s akin to having women in leadership positions in American churches or even American conferences of churches. Why, that would be like having a gay as the head of your church. The rank and file would most likely be all bent out of shape. Well done, @@.

By getalife

November 20, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

BD,

Yes, when you are dealing with folks who live in la, la land.

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

N-GA

I think locally (the metropolitan Atlanta area) you will find that McDonald’s pays well above minimum wage just to find people to hire, essentially the same problem faced by most other retailers. They must have a minimum number to keep those stores operating, therefore, minimum wage passed into oblivion many years ago in the Atlanta area.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

Maybe Buy Danish will limit herself to only 2 Big Macs, a large fry, an apple pie and a large diet coke every day for lunch.

N-GA (flaming idiot),

I do drink Diet Coke, but not from McDonalds. Any more stupid and pointless statements you want to make to show us all how smart you are (not)?

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

Diogenes,

That’s not true. Many, many employers still hire, if not right at minimum wage, then just above, certainly lower than the $7.25 that the Dems want to raise it to. It’d be great if it were $10. Just shave a couple million off of each CEO’s annual Christmas bonus to help bring a few thousand people out of poverty.

By @@

November 20, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

Diogenes:

You see the woman in ml’s cartoon. She looks just like my minister, a woman.

A case against socialized medicine. It can be a little too social for women.

More patients forced onto mixed sex wards by cash-strapped trusts

But to be fair, it’s pretty lousy for everyone involved.

By @@

November 20, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

I just don’t understand it. Why would liberals want to rob young people in developing countries of their happiness.

“The happier young people of the developing world are also the most religious,” the survey said.

Doom and gloom…a liberal’s necessity.

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

@@ (1024),

I’m not sure what point you were trying to make, but I am delighted that your church has a female minister and a gay choir director. That was my point. American churches have become quite liberal in their recognition that ability counts more than color, gender, and sexual orientation. These brave women who have entered the mosques might start the movement of Islam in the same direction. More power to them. Bravo.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

Mountain Goat and Stalker Boy,

You are both completely full of crap. Almost nobody works for minimum wage except high school kids and many of them are from well to do families anyway.

The entire point of raising the minimum wage is because most union contracts automatically trigger wage hikes whenever the minimum wage goes up. When you start demanding that union contracts are left unaffected by a minimum wage hike, then maybe someone will take you seriously.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

Granny,

So where do you drink Diet Coke? When you’re wandering around WalMart in your slippers wearing a Nascar tee-shirt and eating a bag of Cheetos and shopping for shotgun shells?

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

Let’s see what happens when you “shave” two million bucks form the CEO of McDonalds pay and give it to the employees.

500,000 employees would each receive $4.00 per year of this bounty.

Care to try another plan OOT?

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

The R(eal) W(anker) has awoken. I don’t believe you. There….I’ve said it. I think you need to provide links to every union contract and point out where they have clauses linked to minimum wage. Then Congress can specifically address that issue.

Personally, I think it is just another GOP excuse for keeping wages low.

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

One of the Majority’s Voices,

There may be employers in the Metro area who can find labor for minimum wage. I’m a little sceptical. I know most retailers cannot find people to work for much less than $7.50. There’s still a labor shortage in the Metro area, especially of people who will do the entry level jobs in retail. The ones who get squeezed in retail are the first tier of salaried managers who often are working for less per hour than the people they supervise.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

Diogenes,

One difference betweeen Islam and other religions is that to leave Islam is apostasy and in some places where Sharia Law is practiced, it is a crime punishable by death.

To make any comparison as to how Christian churches (in all their diversity) operate is silly.

What the women in Egypt are doing is a real expression of courage, as such attempts are not well-recieved by the IslamoThugs and their lives are at risk. I don’t know that they could even begin to try this in Saudi Arabia.

If you want to find a congregation led by a female minister, you have that choice. If you prefer a more traditional setting, you can choose a church that offers that too.

I get the sense that you want to force female ministers and gay choir leaders on congregations who have different traditions.

All these demands for “diversity” are really attempts to force conformity as dictated by liberals and is not the same thing as “choice”.

By @@

November 20, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

Diogenes:

I’m often compelled to defend religion here. It’s always under attack. Those who are critical of it prove that they know little about it, or the people who support it. Or maybe they just choose to label.

You must have been lurking here under another name. I didn’t say anything about a gay choir director. We did have one, along with his significant other. Great guys. Contributed a lot. They moved on but only because we don’t pay our choir directors. Two gay guys who felt welcome in our midst.

The two of them even had a committment ceremony which many of us attended. They’re no longer together now. I don’t know why, and it’s none of my business.

Christians get a bad rap here. Liberals think we’re some kind of rigid theocracy. I see them as some kind of anti-religious monopoly.

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

Damn R(eal) W(anker)…I’m glad to hear that unions still have some clout. All the airlines seem to have beaten their unions into submission (while they prepaid their executives’ retirement). The autoworkers have had to give back much of what they gained during the past 30 years. Truckers are paying more for diesel than they ever have, but you don’t see them on strike. No major strikes since the Air Traffic Controllers got busted by Reagan on 8/5/81.

Yep, them unions are to blame for everything that Clinton didn’t do.

By RW (the unintentional)

November 20, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

Cartoon Idea: show bush arguing with the statue of liberty: Bush to Statue: “You cant fire me cause I Quit!” Statue to Bush: “I never said send me your rabble”.

Bush is going to resign. No doubt about it. He will resign over the shame that is now just starting to become apparent to one and all who look. Michael Moore used the correct words at the oscars in 03: “Shame on you mister bush!”

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

Punk Stalker Boy,

Like an exponential equation, every time you post your mental illnes reveals itself in greater and greater numbers.

RW,

Not only would they only get $4.00 a piece, but the individual franchise owners, and not the Mc Donalds Corporation, are the ones who have to pay out the government mandated salaries.

By the Master

November 20, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

Kissinger: Military Victory In Iraq Not Possible

A former U.S. secretary of state presented a grim view of the Iraq War on British television, but warned about hasty withdrawal of U.S. forces.

By Tariq Panja, Associated Press

LONDON - Military victory is no longer possible in Iraq, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said in a television interview broadcast Sunday.

Kissinger presented a bleak vision of Iraq, saying the U.S. government must enter into dialogue with Iraq’s neighbors — including Iran — if progress is to be made in the region.

‘If you mean by `military victory,’ an Iraqi government that can be established and whose writ runs across the whole country, that gets the civil war under control and sectarian violence under control in a time period that the political processes of the democracies will support, I don’t believe that is possible,” he told the British Broadcasting Corp.

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

@@,

Don’t misread me. One of the problems of these blogs is that it’s hard sometimes to know what’s straightforward and what’s not.

I support your church and its willingness to see spirituality and ability over gender, race, and sexual preference(mine does also, or I would not attend). I wish more of the religious right were as aligned with human worth as you and your church. I meant it sincerely when I said I hope those women who entered the mosque will start Islam down the same path as some of the churches in the US. It is only when we are willing to meet as human beings without the disguise of our -isms that we have a chance at peace and good will to all men. I was praising you and I meant it sincerely.

By nuff-said

November 20, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

Here is a partial list of conservatives who have deserted the sinking Bush. Richard Perle, David Frum, Bruce Bartlett, George Will, Paul Wolfowitz “It’s not my problem”, William F. Buckley Jr. and Tom Friedman.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

Goat,

Did you miss the part where hardly anyone works for minimum wage anyway.

Tennessee’s flagging labor unions have two carefully concealed motives for increasing the minimum wage. First, unions commonly index their own wages to minimum wage rates. The pay of a union worker is often a multiplier of the minimum wage—with hourly wages set at four, six, even 10 times the minimum wage. This means that a $1 an hour increase in the minimum wage would cost businesses hundreds more a week for each union employee, leading to an increase in the price of everything from cars and houses to monthly utility bills. Second, union lobbyists know that an increased minimum wage expands the might of unions because of contractual obligations and a reduction in non-union workers.

Cato Institute paper on other union motives

There are dozens of articles and studies on this. Try doing a little reading since you sit on your a-ss all day pretending to be a millionaire Muslim war hero.

By getalife

November 20, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

Who cares what the “neonuts” say?

They are the silent minority.

We are driving the bus.

Sit back, relax, and let us clean up the gop disaster.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

RW (the original a*******hole),

If the minimum wage gets bumped to $10 all other wages will follow, but the only way to do it without handicapping the economy is to trim the upper salaries. There is no reason that CEO’s should make what they do.

The median FAMILY income in America is $46,000. By definition, that means that half the nation’s families make less than that each year. Try raising multiple children; owning a home; paying for food, daycare, and utilities for a family of five on less than $46,000 per year, with many at less than $30,000. You can’t tell me that half the country is lazy. There is something wrong with the economic balance in this country and you Republicans don’t have the answer for solving it.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

Diogenes,

Thanks for proving my point at 11::07. What difference does it make to you what the church next door is doing as long as you are free to find a church that gives you what you want?

Why is it that you think that you get to decide what defines “human worth”?

Arrogant much?

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

RW,

Your comment, “Bush is going to resign. No doubt about it. He will resign over the shame that is now just starting to become apparent to one and all who look.’

I doubt that we’ll be that unlucky. Can you imagine Dick Cheney as Prez? It took much more than the poor leadership of Pope George II to get Nixon to resign.

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish (1056),

See my comments to @@ at 1107.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Don’t forget that is $4.00 annually.

Let’s apply OOT’s plan to a company with 100,000 employees and assume the ripple effect only adds $1.00 an hour per employee. That’s $292,000,000.00 that you need to get out of that two million bucks.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

Granny,

Please don’t pretend to know anything about the economics of the working class. You don’t work. You live off your husband’s salary while you choose to stay home and do nothing. You lived on the Upper East Side with people starving just blocks away while you ate caviar. You are an example of what’s wrong with this nation and I’m not even taking your extremist religious views into account, just your bourgeoisie economic status.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

I guess I should back that down to a five day work week so it’s actually only $208,000,000.00 you need to get from OOT’s two mill.

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

RW,

Your comment, “You can’t tell me that half the country is lazy. There is something wrong with the economic balance in this country and you Republicans don’t have the answer for solving it.”

You’re on to the core of the problem. People making $7.50 an hour can’t support a family, even with two incomes. That’s where welfare checks become critical. The misbalance between high and low is becoming a greater issue and the Republicans are blind to it.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

OOT,

I raised my children as a single parent complete with a house, day care, food, utilities, clothing, etc.

So p-iss off, you don’t have the first clue what you’re talking about. The last freaking thing I would have needed would have been the government artificially manipulating the cost structure of our entire economy and either keeping me from maintaining employment or not being able to afford the rampant inflation they would cause.

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish (1116),

I’m not going to quarrel with you today. Maybe tomorrow, but not today. I never did figure out what you were splitting hairs about yesterday, so I’m not going to get into it with you today. You’re too bright and too skilled a debater. I don’t see that we’re as far apart as you want to make us. I have some rather strong opinions about religion, but obviously so do you.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

Diogenes,

If you’re addressing me, I didn’t make either of those comments. What the hell is your problem the last two days? Shake yourself! Next thing you know you’ll be posting as Buy Danish like you did yesterday.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

Diogenes,

I DID see your comments to @@ at 11:07. That’s what I was commenting about!

Who are you to say that your ideas of “moral worth” are superior to say, a devout Roman Catholic?

You are claiming the moral high ground based on your insistence that p.c. gender based issues are what defines “morality”.

What about your churches position on Partial-birth abortion? Isn’t that more important than whether or not you have a female minister?

I think you are doing a good job of illustrating “puerile pap” with your P.C. preaching.

By @@

November 20, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

Let private business help with America’s children.

J.C. Penney charity adds Jan Hart Black

And dammit Danish! Shame on you for leaving a space open for a child without any other alternatives available. /sarc off <——-Did I do that right?

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

RW,

Don’t wish to offend. One comment was made at 1101 by RW (the unintentional) and one at 1112 by RW (the original a*hole). My comments still stand to whomever the imposters are.

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

R(eal) W(anker),

It would seem that the one doing all the sitting around on their fat arse is you, blogging here every day, all day (except on Friday afternoons when you play golf).

You seem to have caught Andy-itis…a proclivity to tell lies. I’ve said many times I’m a veteran, but never declared myself a war hero, nor a muslim (though I would be proud to be either). You dishonor the real war heros by casually tossing the term around in a derogatory manner…no surprise since you are another military service avoider.

And you cite the Cato Institute, an organization that clearly states their opposition to minimum wage. Why not cite Bill O’Reilly on sexual harassment? He’s an expert.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Punk Stalker Boy,

I worked by butt of for 25 years - which judging from your infantile mentality could be more years than you have yet to even live on this planet.

Isn’t there someone in your neighborhood that you could stalk instead of me? Maybe they could turn you into the psych ward and do you a favor.

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

As I told you, I’m not going to quarrel with you today. I really don’t understand what you are trying to attack in my simple statement of support to @@. I have some strong opinions about religion, as do you. I was praising a congregation for what I see to be an intelligent and very Christian approach to human worth. I personally have not been to a church (except for my son’s funeral a few weeks ago) in over thirty years. That, I’m sure, disqualifies me in your eyes as a debater of religious issues. I genuinely doubt that we are as far apart as you seem to want to make us.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

@@,

If punk Stalker Boy had his way those of us that did have children would just hand them over to some government agency to raise - all for the greater good as defined by a punk tyrant.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

What exactly does sexual harassment have to do with minimum wage? Not to mention that with your attempt at a snarky comment you are acknowledging that I have cited an expert source. If you read the Cato Institute study they actually make a different case about the union push.

Please tell me what it is I did to proactively avoid military service since you seem to have added clairvoyance to your phony attributes.

Oh and hurry, because there is a better than even chance I’m going to pretend it’s Friday this afternoon.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Diogenes,

Let’s make this easy. This will be the last comment I address to you and I will always go with the assumption that you are talking to someone else.

By Andy

November 20, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

A theocracy is rigid by definition, (that’s a two point deduction).

By @@

November 20, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Political Foreskin a/k/a/ AndyKnot:

Rigidity is something you can only dream about.

Deduce.

By Dusty'sCool

November 20, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

No, RW, not that. Dont pretend it’s friday more than one day a week. begging here. Promise me you’ll take a walk today or something. Try the salve. Then stick your head in the toilet, Swirls with Wolves.

RW: You think you have to mimic what you think is funny. That makes you a fall guy. I shouldn’t have told you this because now you’ll start thinking that you can still play it. That’s what a troll is. But what am I supposed to do when you post 50X a day? That’s so illegal in any sense of decency at long last. You post impossibly large volumes of dope wid it. You stank thang.

Please stop. One post is fine. Two: set of steak knives.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Granny,

I appreciate the diagnosis, but that’s just one more thing you’re unqualified to make a statement about. Actually I’ve never heard you make a statement you had the qualifications to discuss. I would take your advice on folding laundry or doing dishes, but you probably have a maid to do those anyway. I’m really impressed that you think you worked “hard” for 25 years. Lord knows most Americans would never work for that many years. Bravo!

By 'Muff Said

November 20, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

I demand the surrender of Osama Bin Laden. Take that to the Pakistani Embassy in Washington DC. Just do it, and stfu. Then take that same demand to every single embassy in Washington DC. Just do it, and stfu.

I demand the resignation of George W Bush effective noon tomorrow. Ditto Cheney. Ditto Hastert. Double secret ditto whoever else is in line. Who is in line after Hastert if Bush resigns before Jan 20? Hey, that’s Bush’s way out!! He can still set up a two year republican presidency and keep Pelosi out by resigning. He’ll be forced to. I called it first. Bush is going to resign by Jan 20!

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

RW,

You are an idiot. You raised children in what, the 1970’s or 80’s? I’ll bet your house in Norcross cost about $40,000 back then and you could probably afford to live on $25,000 annually. These days a family can’t find a decent home for less than $100,000 in most places. Workers wages have not kept up with the cost of living. Why do you think foreclosures in Georgia are rising astronomically?

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

I wish more of the religious right were as aligned with human worth as you and your church.

Diogenes,

That statement^^^goes beyond praising a particular congregation. You are effectively defining “human worth” on your own terms - and using a politically-correct standard as the measuring cup.

As to whether you go to church often or rarely, I do not use that as any sort of criteria for anything, so please do not draw a conclusion that is not based on a single thing that I have ever said or implied.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

Hey Andy: I got something that’s rigid for ya.

Fkn little weirdo.

RW: The way the wind’s blowing, there’s no damn telling where the ball would land, I have enough problems when it’s calm out.

Isn’t it funny that NG-A Stroker conjures up his military “service” as a means to tell everyone else to STFU?

I can just imagine the real heroes wading ashore in Normandy thinking “if I live through this day, I’ll own the debate, the rest of these freaking people can just clam up, screw their opinion.”

But back in reality, the only time this Stroker served was being bent over in the bad barracks, with the battalion “training” on his backside.

They were all expert “marksman” that day.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

And you wouldn’t have had to be a single parent if you weren’t such as a*******hole.

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

We’ll quarrel tomorrow. Right now I have to go shelf books. I’m pleased that you didn’t disqualify me from religious debate.

I thought that “human worth” was reasonably self-evident within the context, that it was one of the “givens” of Christian thought that most of us more or less had a conceptual grasp of.

The intent is still the same: to praise @@ and his congregation for a liberalism that one rarely finds in churches. Would I like I see such liberalism in other congregations? Yes. There is no doubt that I would contend that such a emphasis on human worth is the essence of Christianity.

Peace and good will to all men.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

Granny,

By the way, your math doesn’t seem to add up. You’re 47 now and moved down here from New York to “retire” roughly 12 years ago when you were 35. So I guess if you’d been working 25 years it means you were selling newspapers on the corners and shining shoes since you were 10 years old? Unlikely for such royalty. Tell the truth once in a while.

By Thomas

November 20, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

Aha!~

Remember the Alamo!

Bah - Forget the Alamo - everyone else has! After all it’s not profitable…

RW is against Minimum Wage increase. Wow how heartless can you - oh wait I forget - he’s a conservative!

And being a conservative means he wants the banks and big business owners to stockpile the money in their fat savings and earnings accounts rather than have that money revolvinng in the economy making the economy stronger. And conservatives don’t dare increase the “Earning Wages” of people to even come close to a mere pittance of the amount that the “Cost of Living” is going up.

No - we gotta have those gas prices increase and the Big Business get richer while we throw a few copper pieces to the urchins’ to make it look like we are good Christians..

Please sir — for the Christmas porridge sir’!

Yes you raised your family RW (note past tense “Raised” when things were better), but were you working a blue collar job (like the majority of real working Americans)? I would suspect you were a pencil pusher that hasn’t “earned” a single scar or callus in your life.

And I know you think Blue Collar working people are beneath you because they should have made better lives for themselves.

Oh and McDonalds? - Last time I went to the local McDonalds, the local Golden Corral, the local Arbys, and most any fast food place in Atlanta, I saw very few americans working there anymore (if any). So much for their patriotism as they use cheap import labor rather than honest working Americans.

So I say again!

Remember the Alamo!

Because the Republicans forgot!

Thomas

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) 1204,

Peace brother. I have to go shelf books. I didn’t receive a copy of the membership directory when I joined up with this blog.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this

Sick Stalker Boy,

If I see someone walking down the street mumbling to themselves and physically attacking people who walk by, I don’t need to be a shrink to deduce that they suffer from some sort of mental illness.

In that respect I am qualified to conclude that you are a very ill sociopathic, if not psychopathic individual who needs professional psychiatric help.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

OotMV,

When you grow up a little you might have a clue. In the mean time just spew away while I get in a little golf.

Andy,

I spent a lot of time in Texas where you learn to hit it under the wind.

One thought about the mountain goat, if he really is a retired millionaire that’s proof positive that the dumbest son of a b-itch among us can make it without the government screwing around with things. (Of course he’s probably just angling for a raise at his Sonic drive through job)

See you all for the wrap up hour.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

Hey Andy/Cut and Run, How’s that manhood today? Seems a little lacking, as usual.

By Thomas

November 20, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

Diogenes — Give it up!~

Your fighting a wasted useless battle in debating Buy Danish. Arguing with her is like talking to a brick. She is so set in her ways that she will never change her opinions. She knows everything she ever wants to know or learn and other than that Sean Hannity will tell her the rest.

Here’s a rundown for you Dio’:

Public Schools are bad, Must teach children in private schools that teach God! can’t let their young minds learn anything else.

Evolution doesn’t exist. Must Teach God!

My Church is great, All churches in this country should be like my church! To be any other type of church - is false worship! This country was founded on Christianity. ThanksGiving was for Christ (Those Indians mean’t nothing)

If you are poor then you deserve to be that way because you didn’t strive to better yourself. (even if you lost everything in Katrina).

I could go on about how she often goes out into the world, and helps the down-trodden. Or how about her tolerance for others opinions, and how loving and caring she is to all nations and ideas.

But yah know - I just haven’t got the time anymore.

Thomas

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

Granny,

I would think that an unemployed housewife who sits at home 24/7 attacking strangers and spewing profanities while she chugs vodka and pops valium would be a little more indicative of someone with a mental disorder than an individual who actually has a job and a life. But then again, I’m only partially qualified to make that diagnosis, which is a lot more qualified than you are.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

RW,

Obviously you had no rational response. You can’t compare how you were able to survive 25 years ago to the economic realities of the working class today. Back then it was possible to make it on one income; not so today. If you didn’t have your head so far up your golf buddies a*******es (on a Monday) you may have some notions about the realities of today.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 01:10 PM | Link to this

Stalker Boy,

I never said I was 47 years old - I’ve never said how old I was one way or the other.

That was your own poor psychic conclusion -and now you are calling ME a liar because YOU guessed wrong.

Classic sociopathic behavior.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this

RW,

Between the twin dunces, N-GA and Thomas, your 12:58 theory is 100% verifiably correct.

Diognenes,

Sigh. If you CHOOSE to ascribe to more liberal tenets and ceremonies you have the right and ability to find many churches which will suit your particular requirements.

Others may CHOOSE a more conservative, traditional route.

That’s a basic principle of religious liberty. Why are you so intent in pushing your liberal constructs on others who rightfully call themselves Christians but don’t share your priorities?

From where I sit it seems mighty sanctimonious of you. Don’t feel compelled to answer today. You may want to take some time and mull it over a bit.

By @@

November 20, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

Gosh, OotMV is bitter towards all.

Buy Danish for being married and a stay-at-home Mom.

RW for raising his children alone while working. He must be an a***** for having done so????

It looks like OotMV has little use for children or parents, be they male or female under any circumstances.

So exactly what do you see in a positive light OotMV? You’re talking about the backbone of any society. The nuclear family.

Is family your problem or are you a disgruntled female?

By Cindy

November 20, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this

Wonder how much child support she got. Did her ex actually buy her that house?

By getalife

November 20, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this

Get to work folks.

Our government needs some more of your money for the Iraqis.

Enough with this blogging.

Support Iraq.

By gtengineer

November 20, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

can we elect an ATHEIST already?

a president that WON’T try and hurry up the RAPTURE?

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

Granny,

You had your child at 35 and he is approximately 12 now. Sounds like 47 to me.

By Craig

November 20, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

@@: I would say that One of the Majority’s Voices is bitter because people like Buy Danish and RW prove that you don’t need the government to succeed and raise a family. For people like One of… to succeed they have to make people believe that government is their only hope

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

@@,

If I were you I wouldn’t be second guessing my life. I’m younger than you; I am more highly educated than you. While we work in the same field, I teach much more complex subject matter than you. Not only are you nothing more than a glorified babysitter, I know you neglect your students by spending all day online blogging. It’s unethical to do so from work and it’s far more unethical to neglect your children. Forgive me if I don’t respect your opinion.

By rushncap

November 20, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this

Let’s all just say a short prayer to a god or gods of your choice thanking them that RW and Muffin (Danish) are not our parents. Remember guys, no matter how bleak things can look (and, let’s face it, on a Monday for those of us who actually work it can be bleak) at least we’d been spared that iniquity.

By Jenn

November 20, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

FYI, In order to qualify for WIC or any government assisted program, you can only make $42,290.00 max per year for a family of 5. I only know because I recently had a baby, and checked into getting WIC. My husband works hard for the family and we are just getting by, but I couldn’t imagine living on 42K a year.

By rushncap

November 20, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

I’m with you, engineer! But that won’t happen for a while. Religious folk have trouble believing that a person can simultaneously not believe a made-up sky monster AND be a good, decent person. Somehow there is a switch somewhere in their brains that just cannot close. I’m curious to see if America elects a professed non-Christian before I die. My guess is “no”.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this

Thomas (the pompous a*******hat)

I think Diogenes is perfectly capable of debating me without your infantile and false interjections.

Why don’t you find a nice novel to read instead of making stuff up out of whole cloth about my positions on various issues.

Punk Stalker Boy,

You are a very sick, creepy person.

I have no idea what “job” you really do, but you are not indispensable.

Call 911 before its too late.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

Actually Craig aka Andy, almost all the people here treat this as peripheral entertainment, a way to be obnoxious and get a couple laughs, but you, RW, Buy Granny, and @@ have this as the central entity of your lives. That’s pathetic. You say I’m bitter, but I get only laughs from tweeking you losers.

By getalife

November 20, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this

Welfare?

We need to support Iraqi welfare.

Our government broke it and they have to fix it with your money.

Get more jobs, make more money to support Iraqi welfare.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

Jenn,

Half the families in this country make less than $46,000 per year. This was the point I was trying to make to RW. But he’s still living in 1976, so he thinks a family can buy a nice house for $40,000 and survive on a single income of $27,000. He and Granny live in glass houses.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

I keep telling RW, Andy, Buy Granny, and Honu that their made-up-sky-monster isn’t real, but for some reason they just can’t understand it.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 02:04 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

If you agree with Gtechengineer, then find yourself an Atheist candidate and win a freaking election.

As I’ve repeatedly said before, I don’t give a FLIP if you are an atheist, agnostic, or clown, as long as you don’t try to tear down the institutions that were in place long before you emigrated here from Russia.

I am a conservative, which means in part that I am interested in conserving the culture and traditions which have served us and the rest of the world well. That includes your right to be an Atheist, however you do not have the right do destroy our Republic through tyranny disguised as humanity.

By Jenn

November 20, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

I just find it ridiculous that I can’t get a little help with formula for my kid (which is expensive), but the person in line in front of me using their WIC coupons, gets into their brand new Lexus, with their Louie hand bag and Gucci clothes. Has no problem getting a government handout. I guess I should have never gotten married, and just stayed single.

By Craig

November 20, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

One of the Majority’s Voices: You might get a laugh out of what you perceive as tweaking losers, but most of the people I know laugh at what a pathetic little punk you are. I’ve got to run but, why don’t you speed through Roswell today and we can laugh at each other in person.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

Sick Stalker Boy,

Oh the irony of you advising @@ about “second guessing your life”!

WTF do you think YOU do with every false guess you make about mine? What do you think do with your pitiful demands that I turn my kid into a latch key kid in order to satisfy your totalitarian Marxist dreams?

I NEVER said that I was 35 when I had my child. You are completely delusional.

I have nothing more to say to you. Eff off and call 911.

By getalife

November 20, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this

Jenn,

Personal information on this blog is not a good idea.

By @@

November 20, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

OotMV:

It’s odd that you would accuse me of neglecting my kids when here you are blogging away frequently and during the day. I know you have this need to feel superior, but really, your level of education is irrelevant to me.

Actually, and there are those here who are more aware than you, I haven’t worked full-time since early November. It was voluntary on my part and due to a decline in enrollment. Something we experience occasionally. I can be happy about that. It means the need for special education diminishes temporarily and on occasion.

But then you seem to have serious problems with finding silver linings in your overcast or undercast life.

Your opinion is worth about as much as mine, and forgiveness is in my nature, so…….

Oh, btw, you commented that you found my late posting one night highly entertaining. Actually, I was working on a project, and you were nothing more than a convenient distraction. All work and no play you know.

Nice try though, and very immature. By your own admission, you are.

By Jenn

November 20, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

Getalife, I was just putting out an example. Thanks for the warning though.

By @@

November 20, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

That was very sweet of you to offer Jenn advice. But then……need I say it yet again? :-)

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

By One of the Majority’s Voices November 20, 2006 01:02 PM Hey Andy/Cut and Run, How’s that manhood today? Seems a little lacking, as usual.

Why, are you looking for me to bone you?

By One of the Majority’s Voices November 20, 2006 01:40 PM Not only are you nothing more than a glorified babysitter, I know you neglect your students by spending all day online blogging. It’s unethical to do so from work and it’s far more unethical to neglect your children. Forgive me if I don’t respect your opinion.

My guess is that we haven’t taught our class about hypocrisy yet, seeing how this loser apparently has no idea what it is.

By the way, common sense teaching is far more valuable then a bunch of junk scientists or head in your as-s elitism, and on this subject I’d by far would rather have @@ teaching our kids than your simple a-ss.

And paranoid too:

By One of the Majority’s Voices November 20, 2006 01:54 PM Actually Craig aka Andy

You’re an insecure little bit-ch, coming to a blog and advertising your own a-ss, blowing your own horn, patting yourself on the back, what a loser.

What’s the matter, are you a total failure in real life, does knocking good things and good people on an anonymous blog boost your morale, clown?

Now get back to jacking my name, you little pet of mine, show everyone how much I get under your skin.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Craig,

I think it’s safe to assume that the people you know are uneducated hillbilly bumpkins, and if you’re suggesting that you’re a cop, then I know they would be uneducated hillbilly bumpkins.

By Thomas

November 20, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

Hey Getalife;

Your post at 1:30.. Pay for Iraq!

Sorry - No can do bud!

We have to work overtime to pay for the new social security benefits for illegals — errr - uhhm - Undocumented Workers. You know! Those poor tortured souls that Bush wants to give amnesty to!

After all they are working the jobs our good ol’ USA Blue Collars won’t work, and their fine craftmanship is years beyond anything that the USA ever did.

Yes indeed! Those structures should last centuries! Silly Unions think we should deport them. I mean why? After all they are certainly improving the Economy and living status of every single American! Bush said so!

Yep - we need to give them amnesty so millions more will come here and improve our economy even higher!

Yep gotta pay that bill first then we will pay (through the nose) for Iraq!

Go USA!~ (Going - Going - Gone!)

(grins)

Thomas [Remember The Alamo]

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

I go away for a few hours and look what happens. Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter) starts talking about me getting assaulted by other soldiers. Obviously Lying Andy is fantasizing about me. Sorry Lying Andy, but I’m happily married. Lying Andy needs to look Onan up in the Bible…maybe that will help him get rid of his frustrations.

Of course R(eal) W(anker) has to leave, but before going must comment on my financial status (he’s breaking the commandment about coveting thy neighbor’s goods).

I still think that Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter) and R(eal) W(anker) are either the same person, or Lying Andy is RW’s wife.

By Thomas

November 20, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

hmm —

Just out of curiousity Craig…

Who “Doesn’t” speed through Roswell?

???

Thomas~

By getalife

November 20, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this

Exactly, and now you see their welfare argument is pathetic.

Now, on to abortion.

Abortion bad, blowing up babies is good.

Your thoughts?

By @@

November 20, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

Just like John Kerry, OotMV is an elitist. The very people (police officers) who serve to protect are ignorant bumpkins.

But then I forgot. OotMV is an extreme fighter in the fairy ring.

I think he’s doin’ ‘em, not bouncing around in ‘em.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this

Cut and Run Andy,

Of course you can’t get through a post, much less begin one, without a homosexual reference. And you wonder why I question your manhood.

You discussing education is like Ted Haggard giving a lecture about homosexuality and drug use.

I don’t knock good people. Have you seen me say anything bad about rushncap, Goldie, Midori, Getalife, etc.? You, RW, Buy Granny, et al. don’t qualify as “good people.” Raising the minimum wage, bringing our troops home, lower prescription drug costs are all good things. Religion, GW, the war? Bad things, and yes, I’ll knock them.

Go change your britches, masturbator.

By rushncap

November 20, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

Danish, can you please explain to someone, anyone, maybe me, why you think we (atheists) are so damn interested in tearing down your churches? Here’s a hint: we don’t care. We only care when you try to force your church and your dogma into areas where they don’t belong. That includes classrooms of public schools, courthouses, science (be it biology, medicine or other) and major policy decisions (such as whether to go to war). No one cares if you go to church, believe whatever you want to believe, vote based on your religious convictions or lobby for legislation based on those convictions. No one is shutting down your church, Danish, no one is silencing your preacher, no one is confiscating your holy texts. You still don’t get it, do you? The battles between religious (usually conservative) groups and non-religious ones occur by and large when the religious side crosses the line separating the 2 and tries to instill religion somewhere it does not belong.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

That’s all it took to get NG-A Stroker to flip out?

By 'Muff Said

November 20, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

somebody give getalife a set of steak knives.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Part of their problem is that they think life starts in the twinkle of daddy’s eye. If they had it their way, they would pronounce a baby a living soul even before consummation. Immaculate conception, remember?

But once the life is actually here it’s worthless to them. Did I explain your perspective correctly, Andy/Cut and Run?

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

@@,

Imagine that, you’re another currently unemployed Republican. Why aren’t you out playing golf with RW? Or dropping off trash in the ghettos with Granny? Or planning abortion clinic bombings with Andy? Or marching against gay rights with Honu?

And yes, I did laugh my a** off the morning I woke up to find that you shouted at the computer screen for hours after I had gone to bed. Sounds like it’s not me with the anger management problem.

By Thomas

November 20, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

My Thoughts Getalife? —

Hmm —

Well 9-11 really was a drop in the bucket of human life. I mean we didn’t even lose 4000 innocent souls in that event. There have been so much more loss of life in many other events.

Iraq alone - what? 40,000 or so civilians? 100,000 total of civs and military? But war is good, cleans out the gene pool and helps control overpopulation! Right? We should have more of them. Maybe play with the Nukes next time…

Then there are natural disasters (acts of God), such as the Tsunami’

Then of course disease can run rampant and kill milllions in just a few years. Bound to happen again any day now.

And all these events equally kill men, women, children, babys, unborn babies, dogs, cats, rabbits, cows, etc (you get the picture)

Seriously though, Abortion is much more important as an issue as we must save a few un-born lives. Becuase they are innocent and helpless. After their born, well there’s no need to worry about them anymore at that point. There own their own! They can live or die for all we care!

But while they are just a few cells, we must spend all our resources on saving them at the cost to everyone else.

Of course it goes back to the old parable “If you could save the lives of a million people by sacrificing one single life, would you do it?”

Thomas (Injustice For All!)

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

By One of the Majority’s Voices November 20, 2006 03:18 PM You discussing education is like Ted Haggard giving a lecture about homosexuality and drug use.

What deep, brilliant intelligence, teacher, great.

This jerk off can’t even insult anyone correctly, wouldn’t Haggard be an expert on homosexuality and drug use?

And, by extension, a highly sought after speaker for some of the institutions of “higher learning?”

By the way, what are you doing in Haggard’s bedroom, pervert? I thought that was the business of consenting adults and not fodder for prying eyes?

Are you an advocate of homosexual witch hunts now? Should we wiretap their phones and get all the juicy details so that you liberals can natter on like a bunch of blue hairs?

About things you’re supposed to be in favor of.

Do you spank yourself when you’re bad, wanker?

By @@

November 20, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this

OotMV:

Why am I not surprised that you would be LYAO at something that didn’t exist. Possibly your hysteria based in the non-existent.

Screaming on a blogsite would manifest itself in all caps emboldened. Go back and find it. There were no caps and it wasn’t emboldened.

In your delusional mind only OotMV. Never happened. The only person I’ve ever gotten angry with, and only moderately so, was rushncap. Actually, I like rushncap. I like to think that he and I have an understanding.

The project took hours. You only constituted a few, very few, moments of convenient distraction, like I said.

Sorry to burst that “big bubblehead” of yours.

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this

Question: Is it legal for Lying Andy to use his food stamps to get Depends?

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

Question #2: Where are all the wingnuts jumping to defend Fox Communications for broadcasting OJ’s “confession”.

Question #3: Why didn’t ML have an oblique reference to Fox Communications (is the father character supposed to be Rupport Murdoch?).

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

By One of the Majority’s Voices November 20, 2006 03:27 PM But once the life is actually here it’s worthless to them.

You get your news and information from the cartoon channel, don’t you?

Conservatism is all about the strength of the human spirit and how it should know no bounds.

liberalism is all about human failure, people have to be taken care of by government because they are too stupid to manage on their own, idiots like OotMV can put itself in charge and boss everybody around, tell them what to do.

And since there is no “god” to answer to they can have all the pervert sex they can imagine without worry.

A great big hollow empty life, devoid of meaning.

No wonder they’re all so bitter and angry.

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Thank you for your eloquent 3:20. I suspect everyone who reads it will come away with a better understanding of the problem people have with religious zealots in the USA (everyone except Buy Danish).

By Dusty

November 20, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

Ridiculous comments made on this blog:

I know you are unemployed.

I know who paid for your house.

I know how old you are and how you look.

I MYSELF can explain YOUR perspective.

I know all about YOUR faith because I am an atheist.

Go USA (Going Going Gone!)

You don’t qualify as good people. I know the ones who do qualify.

I am a moderate!

And that is just a few of them……

By I'm an ignorant dumba-ss

November 20, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

so I post idiot questions on a blog.

News Corp has cancelled the TV show and is not going to publish the OJ book

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Sure thing rushncap, you’ll allow us to have our churches IF we acquiese to the demands of the well-funded ACLU and get rid of public representations of “the dogma” of Christmas, the Easter Bunny and St. Valentine’s Day (to name a few offensive items on their list).

How can you stand living here? God is mentioned everywhere, even on those dollar bills that claim to earn.

Thomas (despicable freak),

We all die eventually you freaking moron. Leave it to you to push the slaughter of thousands of innocents on 9/11 aside as a meaningless event and then claim to care about children.

I bet you were one of the ones b*** about Ann Coulter and the Jersey Girls and all the “hate” she spews too.

Andy (the original)

I think these deranged sociopaths are incapable of learning the lesson of hypocrisy. They don’t have the conscience necessary to get it.

By Thomas

November 20, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

Hey!

Anyone here use Open Source Linux?

Pay Up!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/20/microsoftclaimslinux_code/

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By rushncap

November 20, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

Judging by the fact that you’ve been barely able to muster a reply, Muffin, I’d say you realize that I’m right in my post.

Christmas is being replaced by “holidays” to recognize the fact that non-Christians do not celebrate that particular day. I, for one, am very grateful for Xmas. Flying on the morning of that day has by far the cheapest fares anywhere around the holiday season. And your “War on Christmas” is stale, Muffin. The stores that are replacing “Christmas” with “Holidays” are doing so out of their business desire to appeal to a wide audience. I’m still not sure why you care that a WalMart sign does not wish you “Merry Christmas”. It’s supposed to be about celebration of the birth of your Savior, not about the corporate decisions of WalMart or anyone else. I’m yet to see anyone try to eradicate Valentine’s Day, by the way. So give it a break.

How can I stand living here? How can you? God is NOT mentioned everywhere, no matter what you say. Yes, it’s on the money, and it shouldn’t be. But, hey, it’s not on my check card. And whenever I had to say the Pledge of Allegiance (the most useless invention ever, btw) I would omit the “under god” part. I made adjustments. But our society, by and large, has defined limits of where religion can and cannot go. I personally have not encountered many instances where religious zealots cross the line, but when it does happen, I’m opposed to it.

N-GA, thank you for your kind words. Your prophesy is partially incorrect, however. I think Muffin got it, which is why her response to me was so muted.

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

Rupport Murdoch really stepped on his “Richard” with the cancellation of the OJ “confession”. What was he thinking??

By RE

November 20, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this

BD, can you give one example of when you have been restrained from worshipping God in the way you choose?

By Thomas

November 20, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

Spoiled Danish -

If you can’t understand sarcasm then stay out of the playground. The big kids might pick on you!

What I did was point out that in the overall picture of a billion or so people hanging araound on this mudball, 4000 human lives (while yes it was horrible) is a small amount compared to the number of people that “WE” have killed in our bloodlust for revenge.

I would hope that people in our nation would realize that “WE” are acting just as bad (if not worse) than our enemy. I would hope that “WE” can get over our bloodlust, and start talking diplomatically again.

Killing people is bad! Whether it be in the name of God (any god), Politial reasons, or plain ordinary fear and hatred. Killing is still bad and war should always be the last resort.

We used this war in Iraq as a political football, and that was WRONG! People died for oil and power.

Now note I said “WE”, and I didn’t say Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative, or even “YOU” for that matter.

WE is directly referred to all citizens of the USA, because through our vote, through our representation, through our actions, each and every one of us are responsible in the direction this country takes when we go to war.

So if WE have killed 100,000 people (Women and Children too), then we should at least be aware of what we have done, and accept it.

Hiding our collective heads in the sand, and then ignoring our actions (and responsibilities) is callous. We even pat ourselves on the back at our great actions in Iraq, and how firing long range computer guided weapons at an enemy that can barely fight back is great.

Now I am sorry Buy Danish, but I refuse to be ignorant of what “WE” The People as a country “DO”! And what we do is “KILL”!

Do you care how many people we kill?, Or are you only concerned with the deaths of Americans only? Is your concious clear when “OUR” bombs kill kids and babys?

Unlike the hippies spitting on the troops returning home from VietNam, I applaud the Troops for doing their Job as required. I fully accept that I as a voting american - am responsible for the deaths of those children, not them. But you apparently do not accept your responsibiility and “YOUR” part in this travesty of a war!

Thomas

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

Anyone want to tell me how many Christians are mentioned in this story?

Commie Rushncap,

The War on Christmas is real, but Wal-Mart is back to permitting the free expression of “Merry Christmas” this year. You can thank me later for warning you. God forbid you get offended.

By rushncap

November 20, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

Nazi Muffin,

unlike you I don’t get my undies in a bunch based on a sign at a store. I don’t need a business to emptily put up posters they don’t give a hoot about just to take some more of my money. I’m secure enough in my beliefs that I don’t require empty gestures from conglomerates to indicate to me when I should be happy. I’m sorry that your religion and your happiness depend so greatly upon corporate ploys.

By Thomas

November 20, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

Great point rushncap! 05:12 PM

Let face it, Walmart’s largest (current) customer base in the USA is Hispanics and Illegals. Most all Hispanics are Christian Faith (Catholics). Obviously Walmart (and all other stores for tha matter) - play to their customer base(s).

Last year the big controversy was Macys saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. Of course Macys has a much wider customer base of both Christians, and many other faiths, and had decided not to risk alienating non-Christians during the Holidays. Most Christians accepted this descision by Macys, except for the rabid fanatical right gooneys who demanded only they be represented during the holidays.

Overall though! Whats it matter what a store displays during the Holidays, they are only putting up stuff to PR, and market to you and their sole intent is to make money from you.

The only signs and displays that really matter one Iota during Christamas, are the ones in front of the Church itself! That is where you should go to truly celebrate your faith in Christ. Not some chain store!

But sadly - too many people worship material possessions!

Thomas

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

I usually try not to intrude on other people’s dust ups but the end zone celebration is a bit premature:

By rushncap November 20, 2006 04:43 PM N-GA, thank you for your kind words. Your prophesy is partially incorrect, however. I think Muffin got it, which is why her response to me was so muted.

Poor wittle wushncrap doesn’t want the Words of his Creator to upset his delicate balance, sniff, sniff.

By rushncap November 20, 2006 03:20 PM We only care when you try to force your church and your dogma into areas where they don’t belong. That includes classrooms of public schools, courthouses, science (be it biology, medicine or other) and major policy decisions (such as whether to go to war).

I have no idea why anyone takes this degenerate seriously especially with him being all ate up with rotten ignorance.

Let’s review the argument; Christians are supposed to keep their beliefs to themselves, up in the Church with the doors closed and not force them on others.

Nutshell?

This coming from a clown that has no issues with throwing on his pink hotpants and marching up and down the street in gay rapture right in front of God and all his green Earth.

The same sucka-ss that wants people with what once was considered a mental retardation to get married and flaunt their perversion for all of our innocent children to witness.

The same raging pervert that will teach your children how to change their sex should they ever feel “differently,” a disgusting sickness against God and biology.

But the Word of God “upsets” these depraved filthy little maggots.

Gosh, I wonder why?

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

Commie rushncap,

Who said anything about posters? That’s a tool of Marxist revolutionaries.

I’m talking about free speech rushncap. The free exercise thereof. God is everywhere in our history but you want to pretend it deserves the utmost censorship.

Even you had nothing to say about the Easter Bunny being driven out of town.

Happy?

Thomas,

I read one sentence of your ranting screed. Your brushing aside the death of innocents on 9/11 at the hand of IslamoFascists is “sarcasm”?

I hope you have your calender set for 12/22* for the mass Paxorgasm. There’s great news for you - you don’t need a partner!

*Check dates and times for local listings.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this

I see we have more magic math from OotMV, let’s hope that’s not what he’s “teaching.”

Oot, even if you raise minimum wage to $10.00 an hour you know have a whopping annual income of $20,800. and you’ve just raised prices across the board for everyone, not to mention that you’ve probably just frozen the salaries of anyone making anything in the 40 and 50K range.

By the way Carnac, I was still in school in 1976 so you might want to brush up on your stalking skills.

Not to mention that now that the election is over your myth about stagnant wages and soaring cost of living is being shown to be a hoax too

By rushncap

November 20, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this

Please stop whining, Nazi Danish. It’s unbecoming. I dare you to find a single example of your right to say what you want about your religion being abridged. I am willing to bet money you can’t.

And the Easter Bunny has about as much to do with your freaking religion as the Taj Mahal. The Easter Bunny is a pagan fertility symbol (screwing like bunnies, get it?) and became part of Easter only because Christians had to adapt Easter to local pagan holidays when they were spreading their religion. Deal with it.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

By rushncap November 20, 2006 04:43 PM The stores that are replacing “Christmas” with “Holidays” are doing so out of their business desire to appeal to a wide audience.

Bullsh-it. They are doing it because they don’t want to attract the attention of the pervert left wing and their attack dog the ACLU.

I do not shop at Home Depot anymore, their “holiday” spinelessness is just what you’d expect from a company run by a bunch of liberals in Atlanta.

This country was founded on the name of Christ; it is free and prosperous because those principles, the fairness and most of all the morality.

Home Depot and all the other sissy a-ss panty waists damn sure can’t thank allah or the cow out in the field for their success, they can only thank God.

And when they usher Him out the door it will be their own fault for what takes His place.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this

My gawd, how stupid can these liberals be and still remember to breathe in air?:

By Thomas November 20, 2006 05:29 PM Most Christians accepted this descision by Macys, except for the rabid fanatical right gooneys who demanded only they be represented during the holidays. Overall though! Whats it matter what a store displays during the Holidays, they are only putting up stuff to PR, and market to you and their sole intent is to make money from you.

Let’s see here, gimpy, could it be that the “holiday” might just be to celebrate the birth of Christ??

WTF, these people think that they’re smart??

It isn’t your decision on how to celebrate Christmas, you blooming idiot, you perverts can go take a leap off a tall bridge or work on December 25th, who the hell are you to tell Christians how to act on THEIR DAY?

Merry Christmas!

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Lying Andy’s 5:30 post says it all since it was written by a self-professed “Christian”.

And all the other “Christian” bloggers here just sit there with their collective heads in the sand while this imbecile makes them and Christianity look like religion gone amok.

BTW, I don’t shop at Home Depot either…their CEO, Nardelli was the single largest GOP fundraiser running up to the 2004 election.

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

Hey Lying Andy…Allah IS God, you fool.

By Thomas

November 20, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

Andy — Pot To Kettle dude!

I am beginning to agree with the others here now — Seek help really!

You really don’t get the logic of seperation of Church and State do you Andy? well lets make that Theocracy! The United States of God! We will make women wear only classic clothes like in the 1800’s and of course they can’t vote, then we will bring back the Inquisition, and withch burnings, and - hey it will be fun!

(next)

Beir Dane’shka -

I take it you have never gone anywhere out of this country and explored other cultures, and Ideas…, and NO I don’t mean out of Georgia.

Hmm wait a minute come to think of it - uhhhm have you ever been out of Georgia even!???

That whole post (3:42pm) had a tongue in check sarcasm through the entire piece, snarking about a very serious subject which obviously is well beyond your level of comprehension.

You of course have no true concept of forgiveness, mercy, sacrifice, pity, honor, etc. You are a close minded zealot that has apparently decided that only certain people’s deaths are worthy, and all others are just meat for the grinder. You care nothing for life despite your bold and voiciferous commentary claiming you do care about life!

Just remember, that there have been many evil people in this world that have committed un-told numbers of horrors that believed themselves to be Men (and women) of GOD! And that they were doing GOD’s work while committing those attrocitys. Even Hitler was a religeous man! And I might add Jeffrey Dahlmer, Benedict Arnold, The Inquisistion, the Witch Burnings, the Crusades even, the list continues. Heck even Andy is claiming to be a good upstanding potty mouthed Christian now!

Perhaps BD you have a soul, but you sure aren’t showing it!

Laters everyone - Time to leave this zoo.. Cya’s

Thomas

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this

Hey Lying Andy…Allah IS God, you fool.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

Is it the colorful phrasing that bothers you in Andy’s 5:30 or the fact that it’s true?

By rushncap

November 20, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this

It’s amazing how much time li’l andy spends writing posts to me when he knows damn well I don’t give a damn about anything he has to say.

By Midori

November 20, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

I was going to post that info about Home Depot, but you beat me to it.

Andy sure knows a lot of nothing, doesn’t he?

Leows is more of a blue company.

By Thomas

November 20, 2006 06:17 PM | Link to this

Andy —

Holiday Season also covers Hannuka (sp?), and several other religeous events worldwide. There were many pagan (that has nothing to do with Christian events celebrated at that time too. I won’t even begin to discuss Muslim events around that time period. Then there is Kwanza’ etc. How about Solstice? The Time of The Great White Buffalo (The original holy holiday here in America), the list that Happy Holidays covers is actually immense!

By the way — just what day was Christ born again? And do you have any idea of what time of year his birthday was originally celebrated? But then Rome came into play and the Great empire that was! Well lets just say that date has changed a few times. And just why did they move it and add that Tree thing?

I’ll still say Merry Christmas of course seeing as I am Methodist, but I also have respect for other people and their beliefs (unlike You!).

Thomas

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish (5:00)

I’m surprised that you are not fulminating against Target who refuses to allow the Salvation Army to ring their bells on Target property.

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

Mike,

I see the OJ fiasco has been cancelled. Your cartoon obviously had an impact.

By rushncap

November 20, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

Thomas, you’re right about Christmas. The date is almost certainly incorrect. From what I’ve read the Roman census was never anywhere near December. Christmas’ date was picked simply to coincide with a pagan holiday so as to ease the transition from pagan to Christian worship.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 06:25 PM | Link to this

By Thomas November 20, 2006 06:02 PM And I might add Jeffrey Dahlmer, Benedict Arnold, The Inquisistion, the Witch Burnings, the Crusades even, the list continues. Heck even Andy is claiming to be a good upstanding potty mouthed Christian now!

Isn’t it nice that the perverts have to go back to the middle ages to find Christian “indiscretions,” all the while we have an a-ssload of religious fanatics here and now knocking down buildings and blowing up women and children, I ain’t heard one word of complaint about that sh-it from anyone of these filthy mouthed little degenerates?

Kind of makes you wonder what their beef with God is really all about.

And it’s amazing that these same jerk offs that don’t want even the very thought of God to intrude upon their harmonious little existence but yet they’re all experts on the subject of Christianity, telling us how we are supposed to worship, conduct ourselves and treat others.

Are you liberals nothing but control freaks?

Huh, huh?

By N-GA November 20, 2006 05:58 PM Lying Andy’s 5:30 post says it all since it was written by a self-professed “Christian”.

How the fk would you know, from watching the TV set?

Merry Christmas!

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter) aka RW (the Real Wanker),

Thank you for showing people on this blog how you can be both stupid and insane at the same time. That goes for you too, BD.

No wonder the GOP is crashing and burning with dimwits like these.

By getalife

November 20, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

The janitors win

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

I see that rushncap is still implicitly admitting that the Easter bunny was offensive and was run of town.

Of course he fails to mention that Easter, which is clearly not a “pagan holiday” celebrates the resurrection of Christ and the eggs that our children TRADITIONALLY hunt for on Easter Sunday are symbols of new life.

Constrast these restrictions of free speech with the kid-glove treatment that Gitmo prisoners get.

Well 9-11 really was a drop in the bucket of human life. I mean we didn’t even lose 4000 innocent souls in that event. There have been so much more loss of life in many other events

Thomas the freaky comic and elite world traveler,

I’m sorry, I still don’t get your sarcastic 9/11 joke. Please explain it to me. I got this far - almost 4,000 people died on 9/11 but BFD, people die in wars all the time and even dogs and cats die.

Thanks in advance.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 06:28 PM | Link to this

By rushncap November 20, 2006 06:09 PM It’s amazing how much time li’l andy spends writing posts to me when he knows damn well I don’t give a damn about anything he has to say.

Then why the post^^, hehehehe.

Sucka-ss.

Merry Christmas!

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 06:29 PM | Link to this

Yeah Midori,

Some of us actually read the AJC. It did several articles about Nardelli and the GOP fundraisers he held at his home. Of course he got millions in return when the Administration acted on his request to change the import duty on ceiling fans. You have to admit he got a great return on his investment.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

By Midori November 20, 2006 06:12 PM N-GA, I was going to post that info about Home Depot, but you beat me to it. Andy sure knows a lot of nothing, doesn’t he? Leows is more of a blue company.

That would be “Lowes,” “know it all.”

I thought the GOP was using Christians, don’t tell me you forgot your election talking points so soon??

Home Depot may have many reasons for dropping Christ’s Name from their business model, hopefully He won’t have many reasons to drop them from His Kingdom, but being strong believers in their Faith is not one of them.

Spineless PC is their king of kings.

By rushncap

November 20, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

Danish, I have no idea what the hell you are talking about with the Easter Bunny being run out of anywhere. I’m merely pointing out that neither the eggs nor the Bunny have anything at all to do with Christianity. The eggs were obviously part of the same pagan “sex festival” tradition as the bunny.

And I see you’re still implicitely admitting that your faith is based at least in part on commercial interests pandering to it. Such a sad way to go through life.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 06:39 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Maybe you should read something other than tales of pagan witchcraft. Most people that believe the date is wrong believe that the date was picked to coincide with traditional winter celebrations which were always the largest of the celebrations because there was no work in the fields to be done.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this

By Thomas November 20, 2006 06:17 PM Andy — Holiday Season also covers Hannuka (sp?), and several other religeous events worldwide.

So 5 years ago it was openly called Christmas why exactly??

By the way — just what day was Christ born again?

I don’t know man, I wasn’t at Bethlehem.

WTF difference does it make anyway, is this how you degenerates crown each other scholars, by knowing these obscure pointless infobytes?

It figures, the perverts miss the whole glory of the Kingdom of God, it just goes right over their heads, but they know all the dates.

Sad.

Merry Christmas!

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 06:42 PM | Link to this

Merry Christmas to you too, Cut and Run Andy!

You and your ignorant hordes are just helping to turn Christmas and Easter into the generic, commercial holidays they were already becoming. Christmas and Easter no longer have anything to do with Christianity. And I say that’s great because Jesus as a deity is just as realistic as Santa Claus coming down your non-existent chimney or a six-foot bunny bringing your twisted offspring the colored eggs he just laid.

Merry Christmas!

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

The GOP is still using Christians as their decoys. Whilst claiming to represent “good old-fashioned Christian values,” they have their hands out for any bribe that might come their way. The American electorate just told the GOP that they were tired of that particular form of hypocrisy. If their righteous right hijacks any more of the conservative platform, the blue tide will wash them out to sea.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

Cut and Run Andy,

The sad thing is that after you die you won’t even know you spent your life counting on a foolish fairy tale. You’ll be dead so you won’t even realize you’re not in heaven, although as everyone who reads your posts here knows, if there was justice you’d end up in hell. Oh well, not everything can be perfect in life, or the non-afterlife.

By RE

November 20, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this

Andy, BD, RW…

Can any of you give a personal example of a time when you were restrained from worshipping god as you choose to

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this

Diogenes,

Fulminating? I am not pleased with that decision by Target, and I guarantee you that if the Salvation Army were a secular organization they’d still be out there ringing their bells.

The ACLU has everyone petrified of lawsuits, and although Target has deep pockets it’s easier for them just to say no to one more long-standing tradition.

Local communities do not have money to defend themselves against these onslaughts against free speech, so the ACLU ends up winning time and again and setting more and more bad precedents..

Target is donating one million to the Salvation Army, but they used to raise 9 million so that’s a huge loss to a wonderful charitable organization that does great work and even feeds the poor and hungry children - something Leftist claim to care about.

Maybe George Soros will hold his nose over the fact that it is a religious organization and make up the difference.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 06:54 PM | Link to this

The roots of Christmas and Easter obviously come from ancient Pagan holidays. Jesus was not born in December and he was not crucified in April. If the Christian God was real, couldn’t he make sure that his followers celebrated his birthday on the correct date? If he is infallible, don’t you think he would ensure his loony followers didn’t base their rituals on previously established rituals from other religions?

Merry Christmas!

By N-GA

November 20, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

And now it is time for a medium rare ribeye, a baked sweet potato, an iceberg wedge with bleu cheese, and a 99’ Mondavi Reserve Cabernet. Good evening….

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

Hey Cut and Run Andy,

Are you going to buy your kids some toy guns and hand grenades for Christmas? Or maybe some real guns and some targets of people of color for them to practice on? Very Christian of you.

Merry Christmas!

By Diogenes

November 20, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this

I think there is no doubt that the teachings of Jesus, like the teachings of Mohammed, have significance in man’s relationship to man. Organized religion has hijacked both philosophers and turned them into a repressive dogma that most of us should best avoid. Adhere to the teachings of either of these great philosophers, and your life will be the richer for it. My old buddy, Socrates, wasn’t too bad as a role model, either.

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 07:04 PM | Link to this

Granny,

You’re always talking about free speech and I support your right to say the most ignorant things you can possibly think of. You do that here very effectively 8-7 every day. As a matter of fact, that seems to be your only occupation in life- spewing ignorance. And that’s just fine with the rest of us. Just keep your garbage out of our schools, out of our courts, out of our bedrooms, and out of our lives.

Merry Christmas!

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 07:07 PM | Link to this

REbot: Tell us why the Ten Commandments upsets you or why you freak out when Christians refer to the Birth of thier Savior as Christmas?

Ittle bitty tiny mind, maybe?

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 07:08 PM | Link to this

RE,

Why do you ask? Have you seen some imaginary posts from me you would like to share?

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 07:10 PM | Link to this

By One of the Majority’s Voices November 20, 2006 06:42 PM Merry Christmas to you too, Cut and Run Andy! You and your ignorant hordes are just helping to turn Christmas and Easter into the generic, commercial holidays they were already becoming.

Let me guess, you got this information from the comedy channel, didn’t you, clown?

I guess I don’t follow this reasoning, Chritians don’t tell you pinkos how to act on Gay Day, why can’t you restrain yourselves from scolding us about Christmas?

It’s all about control, ain’t it?

Merry Christmas!

By One of the Majority's Voices

November 20, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this

Diogenes,

I’ll agree on Socrates, but I’d take Buddha, Ben Franklin, Thoreau, Emerson, MLK, Gandhi, Lincoln, etc. before I took the two guys you mentioned who have spawned most of society’s ills.

By I Voted For The War Before I Cut And Run From It

November 20, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

I am a gay, self-loathing Christian. Ted Haggard is my idol. I say “Get thee behind me Satan,” because that’s where I like to take it. My name is Andy. Amen.

Merry Christmas.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this

OotMV,

Maybe tonight you can cook up a story for us about you can rob one CEO of his quarterly stock option and use it to pay the college tuition of 100 million people. Bring a calculator with you tomorrow though.

By SwiftVoter

November 21, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

IF I DID STEAL THE 0HIO ELECTIONS…

Nov 20, 2:43 PM EST///GOP fundraiser will spend two decades in prison

By JOHN SEEWER Associated Press Writer TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) — A former GOP fundraiser caught in a scandal that toppled Ohio’s ruling Republican Party in the election will spend about 20 years in prison.

Tom Noe, a politically connected coin dealer, was sentenced to 18 years in state prison Monday for embezzling millions from a state investment in rare coins.

That’s on top of the two years and three months Noe must serve for pleading guilty earlier this year to funneling $45,000 to President Bush’s re-election campaign.

Noe, 52, was the key figure in the scandal that dogged the state GOP for more than a year, culminating with Democrats winning a U.S. Senate seat and four of five key statewide offices earlier this month after 12 years of Republican rule.

Noe, who was fined $139,000, acted as though he had “a bottomless cup of wealth and luxury at your disposal, when in fact it was at the state’s expense,” Lucas County Common Pleas Judge Thomas Osowik said. Noe was convicted last week of theft, corrupt activity, money laundering, forgery and tampering with records. He faced a minimum sentence of 10 years on the corrupt activity charge, the most serious one.

Investigations into the coin investment led to ethics charges against Taft, who pleaded no contest to failing to report golf outings and other gifts. Four former Taft aides pleaded no contest to similar charges.

The scandal also led to sweeping changes at the workers’ comp agency, which gave Noe $25 million in 1998, followed by another $25 million in 2001 to invest in rare coins.

Democrats charged that Noe got the money because of his ties with the GOP. Before the investigation began, Noe was a member of state boards that oversee the Ohio Turnpike and Ohio’s public universities. He was a top GOP fundraiser who gave more than $105,000 to Republicans including Bush and Taft in 2004.

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