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Halloween fun

By Mike Luckovich | Friday, October 27, 2006, 07:55 PM

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By George

October 27, 2006 10:18 PM | Link to this

Is that Bush in the tank? Halloween at Darth Cheney’s place must be a really lively affair.

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By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 28, 2006 07:31 AM | Link to this

Come on Georgia Girl, try to think beyond the childish here. “Is Bush in the tank” doesn’t even make any damn sense.

You really are a liberal.

The whole reason for this cartoon is because of Lynn Cheney’s humiliating slap down of Wolf Blitzer on CNN, to blunt the damage to the pinko nation that she caused, democrat party lapdog stooges like luckovich have to come out and smear Cheney.

If this cartoon boy wasn’t such a handmaiden to Howard Dean, he would have drawn Al Qaeda terrorists instead of kids and this cartoon wouldn’t suck.

By George

October 30, 2006 08:01 AM | Link to this

Andy

Most of the stuff you post defies any logic so what is the difference?

Well maybe on your home wingnut planet your postings make sense but here on Earth it just looks like you are in disparate need of medication.

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By Republicans Would Rather LIE Than Tell the truth

October 30, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

BAGHDAD, Iraq - At least 69 people were killed or found dead in Iraq on Monday, including 33 bombing victims of an attack on laborers lined up to find a days work in Baghdad’s Sadr city Shiite slum. The U.S. military announced the death of the 100th service member killed in combat this month.

Yeh, the insurrgents are still in their ‘last throes’ aren’t they? Just one more example of the LIES that Republicans have been caught telling ! ! ! How many have they NOT been caught at ? ? ?

By Brian Curtis

October 30, 2006 08:15 AM | Link to this

Good cartoon. Good reminder that we’ve got an acknowledged criminal and traitor in the White House.

But he’s a Republican, so that makes it okay. And at least he’s just drowning young boys, instead of molesting them.

By Republican Incompetence

October 30, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Nearly one of every 25 weapons the military bought for Iraqi security forces is missing, a government audit said Sunday.

Now we learn that 1 in 25 weapons that America supplied to Iraq security forces is missing. You can bet that they are now in the hands of insurrgents. King George and the Republicans demonstarte their TOTAL lack of competence , once again ! ! !

By Republican Incompetence

October 30, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq’s prime minister and President Bush agreed to accelerate efforts to build up Iraqi security forces during a teleconference on Saturday that capped a week of public tensions between the two governments.

Anybody wonder why the Chimperor and his lapdog, al-Malarki, weren’t ‘accelerating’ efforts to build up Iraqi security forces until a week before mid-term elections. They’ve had goin’ on 4 years now to ‘get serious’ haven’t they? This is just more evidence that Republicans are USING our troops and the Iraq misadventure to manipulate the American voter ! ! !

By Republicans Apologists Make Me Wanna Puke

October 30, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Michael J. Fox laughed off criticism of his appearance in recent political ads in support of embryonic stem cell research, but said his mother was not as amused.

First Coulter spits in the faces of the widows of 9/11 victims, then Limbaugh makes fun of Michael J. Foxes seizure activity. Does THIS make YOU proud to be associated with Republican apologists in any way shape or form ? ? ?

By Dusty

October 30, 2006 08:33 AM | Link to this

HO hum,

Another day of Luckovich lovers, Bush haters, Cheney conspirators, propaganda bobbing and personal insults to people who are unknown by those who speak. The Liberal Luckovich Halloween will start a day early and will continue ‘til the lights go out. Anything constructive? Naaaawwwww! Who has time for that?

As Jim Wooten suggested in his blog, keep family matters out of politics. Act decent! And try to do the same on blogs. No name calling and personal insults! Wait for Halloween, you goblins of little glory. Be different! Be bold! Be an American! (No applause, please.)

By Political Foreskin

October 30, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

Cartoon could have been called the “Baptism of Fire”.

I would never have thought of bobbing for apples. I wasn’t aware that it was even a Halloween tradition. I’ve definitely got to read more.

I mean look at the logistical problem with that joke: Trick or treaters would bob for apples if there was candy next door and everywhere you look? This had to be some sort of fall festival thing, which would preclude trick or treaters. I would have rejected this joke, mike, even though it worked.

At first glance, it did seem that bobbing for apples contained a cultural harmony with trick or treating, but upon later relflection you realize that it doesn’t.

I like to think about jokes and let the nuances resonate in my mind (when they work). I like jokes that resonate real good. I like it when I like things that resonate. I like resonating things when I think about them real good. I dont like this joke. It didn’t resonate. I dont like jokes where the nuances dont resonate, mike. I dont like them real good.

By Republican False Secuirty

October 30, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Relations between the US and Mexico today took a turn for the worse after George Bush signed legislation for a 700-mile border fence to counter illegal immigration into the US.

The move was universally condemned by Mexican leaders. Vicente Fox, the country’s president, told reporters that the fence would not stop millions of Mexicans from heading north in search of jobs. “It is an embarrassment for the United States,” Mr Fox said.

Well, there it is. Bush’s good buddy, Vicente Fox, says that the fence ain’t gonna stop HIM from sending millions of ‘guest workers’ into America ! ! !

How successful does anyone really think this COLLOSAL waste of taxpayer dollars will be if the GOVERNMENT of Mexico has already annonunced that it will thwart any efforts at fencing. The only way to plug the hemmorage of illegal aliens across our border is to seize all assets of any company caught exploiting these CRIMES and you can bet your sweet bippy that King George and the Republican elite aren’t about to do it ! ! !

By getalife

October 30, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this

“And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam (Hussein) worth? And the answer is not that damned many.” Dick Cheney 1992

How about 100 for October Dick?

By @@

October 30, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

@@: ml, I’d like to ask you a question about your newest cartoon release.

ml: O.K. @@, shoot.

@@: Can you tell us, with all certainty, that baloney floats?

ml: Would that be all-beef baloney, or baloney with pork by-products? Because you know during these troubling times, we have to acknowledge Muslim terrorist sensitivities. They don’t eat pork.

@@: Oh, I don’t think you can say that with all certainty ml. I think they might.

ml: Glub…Glub!!!!

By Stop Republicans From USING Our Troops

October 30, 2006 08:55 AM | Link to this

Iraq Veterans Against the War

By Political Foreskin

October 30, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

Dusty, your observations are intrinsic to your station in life. You became that which you most despised: an Oprah watching, ocher-bellied, mediocre okra. A veg.

There are nuances of meaning that you fail to grasp in any of Wooten’s columns, and most of Luckovich’s cartoons.

Worse, you cant seem to express yourself proper. A good man’s got to know his own limitations.

Potted plants R people 2.

We’re all rooting for you to flower, and while some people do talk to their plants, try 2stfu.

By We're Going To Raise..... Your......Taxes!!!!!

October 30, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

One example is his disdain for women in military service. When his 1979 article “Women Can’t Fight” and its impact on the treatment of women at the United States Naval Academy became a major campaign issue, Mr. Webb, democrat, Virginia, quickly countered with claims that when serving as Secretary of the Navy he “opened up more billets” (e.g. military specialties) to women than any of his predecessors. What he fails to note in heralding this accomplishment was that it occurred under duress.-WashingtonTimes

Well, well, I just happen to have some excerpts from “Women Can’t Fight” right here:

“Many women appear to be having problems with their sexuality…What kind of woman would seek out the Academy routine?” (pg. 282, “Women Can’t Fight,” Washingtonian Magazine, November 1979)

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Slapdown:

Aside from using questions culled from talking points on the Jim Webb scandal provided to a CNN associate producer by the Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee, Blitzer, — without checking out the veracity of the talking points — quizzed Cheney about the techniques used against suspected terrorists and her views on the Bush Administration. Cheney had been invited to discuss her new children’s book, but came prepared to battle Blitzer, and more than held her own.-AmericanSpectator

Wolf got blitzed.

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Safest cities in America- St. Louis #371, most dangerous, Atlanta #355, Baghdad #256.

We would not want to understate in any way the enormous sacrifices that have been made in Iraq. The current war is serious. But it is not as costly as our earlier struggles. In constant dollars, Vietnam, Korea, and World War II were all more expensive — and the cost is further diluted by America’s ever increasing population. The per capita cost of World War II for the 133 million Americans alive at the time was $24,262 in 2006 dollars. The per capita cost for the Korean conflict was $2,695 and for Vietnam, $2,621 — {{{{{{more than

By We're Going To Raise..... Your......Taxes!!!!!

October 30, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

Let’s talk briefly about the fact that all four of the black candidates who ran for significant statewide offices as Republicans were minimized and painted as turn coats or traitors by the liberal press. Ken Blackwell of Ohio, Keith Butler of Michigan, Michael Steele of Maryland, and Lynn Swann of Pennsylvania all had to fight for both local and national press coverage of their historic candidacies.-TownHall

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Even funnyman David Letterman let what one must now presume to be his funny mask slip to reveal nothing more than another angry liberal baby boomer brimming with contempt as he spoke with his guest (guest!!!) Bill O’Reilly, the only remotely humorous thing said being “bonehead.” Letterman has journeyed one long way from the heart of Indiana. Then there was the appalled tone of ABC’s Kentucky-bred Diane Sawyer as she discussed the Limbaugh-Fox dustup, replete with the clucking disapproval of a now very liberal lady who lunches with the likeminded of Manhattan. In the War of the Boomers, what conservative boomers like Rush Limbaugh, Patricia Heaton, John Bolton, Rick Santorum, Clarence Thomas, George W. Bush and a boatload of others (think Condi) have going for them that drives mean-spirited critics like a Janet Charlton, Neil Gabler, Diane Sawyer, or Alec Baldwin to such foaming furies is this: they don’t give a damn. -AmericanSpectator

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All is not well in Appeasementville:

MARSEILLE, France — France’s interior minister sent riot police to patrol the southern port city of Marseille on Sunday after a group of marauding teenagers torched a bus, gravely burning a young woman. French police braced for violence this weekend, the anniversary of last year’s riots in poor neighborhoods where immigrants from former French colonies in Africa live with their French-born children on the fringes of society.-Fox”News”

Where will the French cut and run to?

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Today’s cartoon that doesn’t suck!

By Dusty

October 30, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

Oh dear, PoFo,

Now you’ve gotten all rude and ugly (same ol’ same ol’). This was the day to be NICE, remember?

I do not escape the nuisance nuances of Luckovich and his faithful fido PoFo.

I see him using military coffins for “satire”, our elected president with rabbit ears, our troops as torturers (Pot & Kettle), our brilliant Vice-Pres. as a Halloween prankster. The nuances are noxious.

But have no fear, PoFo. Your support of the devious is perfectly obvious.

By the way, since I don’t know, what does stfu mean exactly?

By Cindy

October 30, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

Very funny toon, Mike. I do remember bobbing for apples as a child with school friends before going trick or treating, so this toon is not out of sync to me.

Top Republicans from Using OUR Troops, Don’t you know those guys are unpatriotic? They are endangering our troops! They are aiding the enemy! They are sissys. They are chickhawks. There aren’t that many of them anyway. There neocons, I beat you to the punch.

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS! IMPEACH BUSH NOW!

By rushncap

October 30, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

@@, what does your Washington Post story about the CNN video have to do with, well, anything? Not only does the link make no sense as far as the Cheney/torture cartoon goes, but it does not seem to have much to do with anything else either.

And Dusty, no one applauds your posts save for a few faithful idiots who consider ball-in-crotch to be both the highest form of comedy and a suitable interrogation technique (looking your way, RW).

By SarahConnah

October 30, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

May I suggest a new Halloween tradition for Repugs…”Bobbing for french fries.”

Curtsie!

By Dusty

October 30, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

And now enters the Great Rushncap, always a little less pleasant than the city dump.

I see you are your usual delightful self, full of compliments. No applause?? Awww, I thought I could count on you. What a disappointment. Well, try not to mention too many of your little “gutterisms” today. There are ladies present!!

By @@

October 30, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

rushncap: My post? It’s all about CNN supporting terrorist propoganda and Lynn Cheney’s “baloney” comment regarding a Webbciting on her book, “Sisters” put forth by CNN’s Wolf in sheeps clothing Blitzer.

Now please rushncap, I’m busy knitting a “headscarf” for you. I dropped a stitch or two, but you’re likely not to notice.

By rushncap

October 30, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

Errr, so showing reality is “terrorist propoganda”? Sounds like a conservative campaign slogan if I’ve ever heard one.

So let me get this straight, @@: we know American soldiers are dying. We know they are being killed by, among other ways, snipers. Not only do WE know this, but everyone knows this. However, showing a video of these snipers is “propoganda”. I’m sorry, @@, but if showing the truth hurts you so much, maybe you should avoid watching TV and stick to right wing blogs. According to them Iraq is the second coming of the Garden of Eden.

There are ladies present, Dusty? Where? Save for @@, who is a lady here? Surely you don’t mean li’l andy??

By Brian Curtis

October 30, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

Dusty: The Pot & Kettle cartoon was an excellent. Any U.S. troops who engage in abuse of prisoners deserve a LOT more than mockery.

But I guess that’s a form of patriotism you’ll never understand….

By Brian Curtis

October 30, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

Oops, “an excellent ONE.” Typo.

By @@

October 30, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

rushncap: By your own admission, WE all know what’s going on in Iraq so what purpose did the terrorist sniper video serve other than to promote terrorist propoganda and reward their efforts in killing our soldiers?

I, for one, find it insulting that CNN feels the need to enlighten ME on what I already know. Would you like to join ME and make that a WE who have had OUR intelligence insulted by CNN or do you want to go solo into their seedy underworld of justification?

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 30, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

By Georgie Girl October 30, 2006 08:15 AM OK Andy, what is the war party spin on this?BAGHDAD, (AP) — A bomb tore through food stalls and kiosks in a sprawling Shiite slum Monday, killing at least 31 people, while the U.S. military announced the death of the 100th servicemember in Iraq this month. The 6:15 a.m. explosion in Sadr City targeted poor Shiites who gather there each morning hoping to be hired as construction workers. At least 51 people were wounded, said police Maj. Hashim al-Yasiri.

That the rag tag band of religious murdering terrorists in Iraq are achieving what they set out to do. They killed a crowd of DEFENSELESS innocent people knowing full well that the panty waist pinko feminist left in America would shriek like a bunch of scurillious little sissies, much like what you’re doing.

And I’m sure that the terrorists are praying in mosques all across the Middle East that the democrats win on November 7th.

You welcome the support, don’t you?

By Something's Fishy...

October 30, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

HEY - We’re Going To Raise….. Your……Taxes!!!!!

“The New York Times, as part of its ongoing series on class in America, published a large chart on the distribution of all of Bush’s tax cuts (including his current proposal to extend his tax cuts indefinitely). The numbers are amazing. The top .1 percent of taxpayers—145,000 taxpayers—receive 15.2 percent of all these tax cuts. (These folks make over $1.6 million a year). The top 1 percent—1.4 million taxpayers who bag over $383,000 a year—pocket 30.6 percent of the trillions of dollars in so-called ‘tax relief.’ (Is it ‘relief’ when you give millionaires $100,000 or more each year in tax cuts?) Looking at the other end of the ladder, we see that the bottom 60 percent—those 87 million people making less than $44,000 a year collect 15.1 percent of Bush’s tax cuts, averaging a little over $300 a year in annual tax savings.”

Why are you fighting so hard to save your $300.00?

By getalife

October 30, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

@@,

They showed this on CNN too:

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 30, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

By rushncap October 30, 2006 10:55 AM However, showing a video of these snipers is “propoganda”.

This has a real simple answer, just what you’d expect rushncrap to miss:

We watched CNN for days and saw images of that terrible day. … the twin towers from pictures and film footage, because it was “too painful” to see them.

“Too painful,” eh?

By getalife

October 30, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

I find it pathetic to take bribes (tax cuts) to sell out your country.

Traitors.

By The Vent

October 30, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

Given another two years of unchecked power, the Republicans currently in office will succeed in destroying conservatism for a generation. Ronald Reagan had a vision. Bush has illusions.

By RE

October 30, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

Oh, don’t get andy started on tax cuts, he is convinced no one making under 100k/year pays anything in taxes anyway.

By rushncap

October 30, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

So, again @@, you feel “insulted” that CNN dares to show the truth. That is a rather startling admission. You’d make a great Bush cabinet member, maybe you should apply.

And no, I don’t believe truth is propoganda. Nor do I believe that showing a video is a “reward” to anyone. I think killing our soldiers is reward enough for them. I have a sneaking suspicion they don’t watch CNN anyways.

So, once and for all, @@. I have a question. Do you favor showing reality of war on the news, yes or no? Or do you favor showing only positive things about war? It’s a simple question, which you will almost certainly dodge.

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 30, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

By Something’s Empty, My Head!… October 30, 2006 11:16 AM HEY - We’re Going To Raise….. Your……Taxes!!!!! “The New York Times, as part of its ongoing series on class in America, published a large chart on the distribution of all of Bush’s tax cuts (including his current proposal to extend his tax cuts indefinitely).

Lower taxes beget more business beget more tax revenue beget less taxes owed by those that create the most beget Lower taxes beget more business beget more tax revenue beget less taxes owed by those that create the most beget Lower taxes beget more business beget more tax revenue beget less taxes owed by those that create the most beget Lower taxes beget more business beget more tax revenue beget less taxes owed by those that create the most beget.

Idiot.

Why would a sissy a-ss socialist even try to lecture us on taxes and revenues.

Shouldn’t you like get a job and pay taxes first?

Or does living off of other people’s money make you an “expert” and ——->make you want more?<———

By RE

October 30, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

Lets get this correct, the RNC uses actual Bin Laden propaganda film clips in it’s ads

But over here people are up in arms at CNN? The RNC is promoting Bin Ladens propaganda

By Midori

October 30, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

Something’s Fishy,

because he’s a blithering idiot?

By Jesus

October 30, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By nuff-said

October 30, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

You don’t work. Who are you to tell anybody anything? Another fat republican on the take. No good for this blog, no good for America.

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 30, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

Whitney and Bobby need drug money!!:

Whitney Houston’s back looking her best

Come on Atlanta Urinal, let’s get out there and drum up some business for our hometown crackheads.

By Fence Jumper

October 30, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Remember: James Webb said those things when he was a Republican.

By brother_unknown

October 30, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Bush’s parrot is asleep on his perch; Bush is at his desk staring vacantly into space. Suddenly, the parrot wakes up and cries, ‘Here comes Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense.’ Bush stops working. What goes on? Then the door opens and it’s Rumsfeld. So Bush and Rumsfeld start to talk, but the bird interrupts. ‘Here come Condoleezza Rice, minister of propaganda.’ And, lo and behold, a minute later, it’s true. Bush tells what’s going on, but Rumsfeld and Rice think he’s kidding. ‘Ah, go on, George, it’s a trick, you’re giving the bird a signal.’ ‘No, no,’ Bush says. ‘This bird somehow knows who’s coming, and I’ll prove it to you. We’ll hide in the closet, where the bird can’t see me, and wait for the next visitor.’ So there they are, in the closet, and the bird starts up again. But this time it just trembles and hides its head under its wing and squawks. After a minute, the door opens, and it’s the Vice-President. He looks around, thinks the office is empty, and goes away. ‘All right, people,’ the parrot says, ‘it’s safe to come out now. Cheney is gone.’ aaaaa5.blogspot.com

By Midori

October 30, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

RE,

Here’s some real funny political ads, courtesy of SNL

I am quite surprised we haven’t seen the real thing, courtesy of the RNC.

By LMAO

October 30, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

WGRYT, what are the numbers for the conservative papers??????????

The conservative Atlanta paper for instance, how’s it doing????? LMAO.

What conservative newspaper is alive and kicking @ss on its liberal rival???

Conservatism is dying………..LMAO

By Fence Sitter

October 30, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

By Fence Jumper October 30, 2006 11:41 AM Remember: James Webb said those things when he was a Republican

I agree, when you become a democrat they give you a lobotomy so that you can’t think anymore.

By Fence Jumper

October 30, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

That man is better off lobotimized than having such Republican attitudes.

By bon scott

October 30, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

A Marine officer’s letter home from Baghdad, with its frank description of life in “Dante’s inferno,” has been circulating through generals’ in-boxes. We publish it here with the author’s approval

You can bet the Pentagon knows about this letter. The writer loves being a Marine, and thinks the Marines in Iraq are the best. But the war? SNAFU. Totally totally SNAFU.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — an unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied “Yes, you.”

Get that, neocons?? The deaths of scores of Iraqis daily aren’t the work of foreign “outside agitators”. It’s Iraqis killing Iraqis. That’s called a civil war.

Biggest Outrage — Practically anything said by talking heads on TV about the war in Iraq, not that I get to watch much TV. Their thoughts are consistently both grossly simplistic and politically slanted. Biggest Offender: Bill O’Reilly.

Be a patriot. Vote the Bush GOP war machine out November 7th.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

Dusty at 8:33 Good observation.

Political Foreskin at 9:12 comment on Dusty 8:33 “Worse, you cant seem to express yourself proper. A good man’s got to know his own limitations”

That would be “express yourself properly.”

Nothing personal, in the Jon Stewart sense. Sometimes it’s just too good to pass up.

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 30, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

By LMAO October 30, 2006 11:45 AM WGRYT, what are the numbers for the conservative papers??????????

We communicate via the radio, idiot.

Ask “air america” about that.

By candide

October 30, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

Yes, Cheney is evil. At least that is obvious. What is not so obvious to millions of deluded Americans is that the Republican party is the party of Fascistic super-nationalism, selfish greed, blatant racism, and arrogant posturing. It deserves to be junked in its entirety.

By Dusty

October 30, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Did you actually post I think killing our soldiers is reward enough for them.? Yes, you did.

And yes, there are ladies present and I shall remain one by not calling you the names most suitable to people like you.

Lay off @@. You are not fit to be in her company. She is a patriot.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

Lynne Cheney’s Anger Management Problem

Move over, Naomi. Step aside, Hillary. The new queen of mean is Lynne Cheney.

Today, in a face-off with Wolf Blitzer worthy of inclusion in the Gender Stereotypes Hall of Fame, the nation’s second lady used exactly the kind of rhetoric that led Republicans to cast Senator Clinton as (in Maureen Dowd’s summary) “an angry woman, a she-monster melding images of Medea, the Furies, harpies, and a knife-wielding Glenn Close in ‘Fatal Attraction.’”

Mrs. Veep was bitter about John King’s “Broken Government” special on CNN. “A terrible distortion!” she lectured. She was petulant when Wolf cited VPOTUS’s recent kind words for waterboarding. “A complete distortion!” she fumed. She was p** when Wolf cited sapphic soft porn from her novel, Sisters. Lesbians? Rape? Brothels? “Lies, baloney” she seethed through clenched teeth. If there’d been a gun handy, Wolf might be spending the weekend picking buckshot out of his face.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

I can’t wait for the right to defend Lynne Cheney’s appearance on CNN. Every quality that Republicans demonized in Hillary will be lionized in Lynne. Witchy? B***? Don’t be ridiculous — she’s displaying righteous indignation. Rage? Hysteria? Oh, no, that’s standing your ground. And hey, she was set up: the booker said she’d be talking about her children’s book.

I have no idea how this will play out in the Virginia Senate race, or in any other campaign. No one does. But you can count on the Republican noise machine to claim that this confrontation will help them. That’s their master narrative: everything, no matter what, helps them. If people understand that Cheney is for torture, that’s a plus: it’s ballsy, it rallies the base and it draws a contrast with the terrorist-lovin’ pussies. If Cheney’s wife takes on CNN, that’s perfect: attacking the liberal media never fails to GOTV

By Paul

October 30, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

Dusty at 8:33 Good observation.

Political Foreskin at 9:12 comment on Dusty 8:33 “Worse, you cant seem to express yourself proper. A good man’s got to know his own limitations”

That would be “express yourself properly.”

Nothing personal, in the Jon Stewart sense. Sometimes it’s just too good to pass up.

By What A Freaking Revelation From Oddball Gay Finch

October 30, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

By bon scott October 30, 2006 12:00 PM A Marine officer’s letter home from Baghdad, with its frank description of life in “Dante’s inferno,” has been circulating through generals’ in-boxes. We publish it here with the author’s approval

A soldier bitc-hing about being in a war zone!!!

Why, that’s never happened before!!!!

Finchie must be a prophet.

By Talking Points Alert!!!

October 30, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

By Midori October 30, 2006 12:07 PM I can’t wait for the right to defend Lynne Cheney’s appearance on CNN.

Did you think all that up by yourself, Midori?

Even considering that everyone knows Wolfie barked up the wrong tree and got his a-ss handed to him.

That’s not bitc-hy, that’s called being right.

You libs know nothing about that.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

We’re gonna at 12:01

I don’t believe we can “ask Air America.” They keep dropping stations, filing for bankruptcy (after contracting to pay Al Franken millions - gee, wonder if he’s gonna pay taxes at the pre-tax cut rate?). I’d ask Air America listeners but I can’t find any. Maybe that’s why they went bankrupt. Or maybe George Soros finally pulled the plug.

By Dusty

October 30, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

Yes, “Pot & Kettle” was so offensive AJC changed the title to try and offset the numerous objections.

You know as well as I do that the Military Code of Justice does not allow torture. That a FEW of our military are now serving jail sentences for breaking those rules.

We don’t chop off heads and desecrate bodies like our enemies. If you want to imply that we do, I will disagree with you and with Luckovich. Now who is it you support?

By LMAO

October 30, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

Top 25- Wall St Journal -1.9, Orange County Register down 3.7 (both are conservative)

BTW, online newspaper readership and advertising revenue is soaring. Guess who dominates there? (Hint: AJC.com is number 4.)

By Midori

October 30, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

Talking Points Alert, AKA Andy the Drunk,

I rarely come on this blog on the weekends, but I saw where you hacked the blog on Saturday, crowing about how Lynne Cheney “showed them”.

When I ran across that article, it put things so well in perspective, and then and there I decided to post it as a counter to your drunken, DT ravaged logic.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I can’t begin to tell you just how stupid and ignorant you sound at your 12:01.

Pathetic.

Simply pathetic.

By Ditzty

October 30, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Paul that was totally unfair, besides that, its “express yourselve properly”. Idiot.

Now,go say the Pledge. Reaffirm yourselve.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

G’morning, Midori! Welcome back after the weekend.

What was ignorant? Giving a nod to Dusty’s for call to “act decent”?” Or were you upset as I made a fun correction to Political Foreskin (who seems to have a bit of a sense of humor) regarding “express yourself properly” (he wrote “proper”) and I did not do the same with Dusty’s construct (“act decent” vs “act decently”). I took Dusty’s style as a rather telegraphic slang, while PF’s was in a corrective context.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

Ditzy at 12:24 who are you, really? I believe I can guess…

Totally unfair? I believe the authors understood the context.

Oh, and, “its” is really “it’s” (contraction of “it” and “is”) - not “its” (possessive).

“yourselve” should really, really be “yourself” in both instances.

“Idiot”? After that comment? :)

By We're Going To Raise..... Your......Taxes!!!!!

October 30, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

By LMAO October 30, 2006 12:16 PM Top 25- Wall St Journal -1.9, Orange County Register down 3.7 (both are conservative)

Why are you posting the 2 lowest readership losing numbers? My post at 12:06 is not hidden from everybody but you, this may come as a surprise to you. They can see the pinko times losing 8% and 7.3%

Are you a “closeted” Conservative?

By Dusty

October 30, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I am getting out of here while I can do so PROPERLY. Probably I might become improperly incorrect so I best leave while I am ahead or with a head or SOMETHING!!

Keep ‘em “on course” if there is one.

By @@

October 30, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

rushncap: I have no problem with the truth both good and bad. However, I’ll forego the need to know, what I already know if, at the same time, it puts our troops in jeopardy by glorifying the terrorists’ actions against them.

So I guess you don’t mind an assault on your intelligence by CNN? I see it as the terrorists’ assault on your intelligence, as well. CNN fell for it and I guess you did too, which would make you a convenience supporting their justification.

Me, a lady compared to Dusty? There’s no truth in that statement rushncap. I revelled in the moment when Cheney told Senator Leahy to “F” himself. Dusty has a unique way of delivering the same message in a more lady-like fashion.

I’ll be leaving for awhile, my dog has something wrong with his “left” eye. It looks painful. His left-sided vision is probably distorted. His right eye is working great though.

Back later.

By Ditzty

October 30, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this

““yourselve” should really, really be “yourself” in both instances.

But it wasn’t myselve, and that was my first post today.

By bon scott

October 30, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

By drunken Andy - October 30, 2006 12:01 PM - WGRYT, what are the numbers for the conservative papers?????????? We communicate via the radio, idiot.

This is because most conservatives can’t read more than a paragraph at a time without getting really confused. Hence, no newspapers.

By Andy supports pederasts like Foley - October 30, 2006 12:09 PM - A soldier bitc-hing about being in a war zone!!! Why, that’s never happened before!!!!

No Andy, you drunken twit. It’s a Marine (NOT a soldier) criticizing the logic of the Iraq war, and the intelligence of idiots (like O’Reilly and you) who still buy the lie that Iraq is this breeding ground for foreign Islamic terrorists and extremists.

Buy you a drink?

Vote the Bush GOP out Novenver 7.

By Something's Fishy...

October 30, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

i’ll give up the tax cut our family gets…. to ensure your kids get a real education

i suspect you long for some “sissy @ss” and are incapable of all that begettinq.

i pay taxes and wages, you moron.

By @@

October 30, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

Has anybody ever heard a drunk try to say the word “November”?

It kinda sounds like “Novenver” when they say it.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this

Bon Scott,

he’s a disgusting little creature, isn’t he?

Now watch him come back and call both of us “gay”. Right after that, he’ll make an allusion to my “broom”. Probably envisioning the tip of it all brown and gooey.

The thoughts that goes thru that guy’s mind.

He really needs to ease up on the booze and the meth.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

Hey Dusty at 12:46 - after your plea for something constructive I was rather hoping for an expansion of the tax cut thread (turns into fun with number, class warfare or an inability to accept that maybe, just maybe, some people make over a few hundred thousand a year because of hard work and they just might want to decide how to spend it, rather than have a politician pay off a special interest group) or another interesting thread, but you’re correct, is is going on lunch time.

And I try to avoid anything with “course,” such as “on course” or “stay the course,” of course.

Ditzy at 12:02 - your first post? Now you have me wondering. “Yourselve” is an okay spelling. We must be sensitive to the elves.

By We're Going To Raise..... Your......Taxes!!!!!

October 30, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

By Something’s Fishy… October 30, 2006 12:52 PM i’ll give up the tax cut our family gets…. to ensure your kids get a real education

You can write a freaking check to the government anytime you want, idiot, no one is stopping you.

Why don’t you go work a toll booth in your spare time, government lover, I’ll bet you get off taking those quarters from everybody?

Little punk a-ss scold.

P.S. I know what you mean by “real” “education” and I’m not screwing my children’s minds up like yours is.

With all that filth.

By We're Going To Raise..... Your......Taxes!!!!!

October 30, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

By Hag Witch October 30, 2006 12:56 PM Oddball Gay Finchie, he’s a disgusting little creature, isn’t he?

I don’t know if anyone who takes the sweet innocent words of Lynn Cheney and fears them for shining light on the filthy maggot infested agenda of the left, should be calling anyone disgusting.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this

ooooo

gone from “f*” to “hag”

nice evolution there, drunken sot.

done with that broom yet?

By Midori

October 30, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

“innocent words of Lynn Cheney”

now I see where your “hag” reference comes from.

I’ll agree with you on that — she definitely is a hag witch, you drunken buffoon.

By FoxNews

October 30, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

Todays Headlines……….

World War Three Memories Linger. Month long Israeli/Lebanon spat still painful.

Christmas Under Attack. Employee says “Happy Halloween” to customer standing under store Christmas decoration.

Blonde girl missing

Life Alert! There were 733,993,462,048,555 potential lifes murdered by mast0rbation today! We can beat it. No more masterbacide.

Terror Alert: Election Cycle-Code Red. Hide under beds.

Gay Alert: Election Cycle-Code Pink. NJ Supreme Court Judge dead/retire prayer fest this weekend.

Beaner Alert: 724 Mexicans crossed the border today. 355,822 ytd.

Did Harold call?

(FoxNews-A Conservative Media Outlet-Air and Alanced)

By Paul

October 30, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this

RE 1:24: Caught just a few minutes of Diane Rehm on NPR this morning - discussing “electronic voting.” One guy said, hey, never a “documented” case of any irregularities. Turned out he was the marketing director for Diebold! The other guys were with a couple of related sites/institutes, another guy was a computer science prof from Princeton University. I may have to listen to the archive this afternoon - maybe some more info than the usual rehash.

By We're Going To Raise..... Your......Taxes!!!!!

October 30, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

By REbot October 30, 2006 01:24 PM ever notice voting “irreglarities” always seem to favor the GOP?

“News” headline: Chicago city voters found to have voted 8-10 times for the same candidate.

See how easy that was?

Now, tell me if it’s fake or not.

Point being, the libs are trying to create an impression of irregularities because they know they are going to lose again and they want to hold it up in court.

Answer your question, REbot?

By RE

October 30, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

Ahhh, I see. It is only an impression of irregularities, they did not actually occur.

Where was that Chicago headline from?

By rushncap

October 30, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

Well, @@, I’m glad the right eye of your dog works great. I think it’s the only species for which that side works well.

CNN is not insulting my intelligence by showing the truth, and never will. You are insulting my intelligence by implying that I should remain more ignorant out of some made-up “patriotism”. Neither you nor your right-wing cohorts have demonstrated how showing the truth of the situation “helps” the terrorists. What, you think they will give up because they don’t get CNN air time? Are you nuts?? These people were INVADED by a foreign power whom they believe to be opposed to their deeply-held religious views. And you think CNN is what’s responsible for their resistance? @@, for your sake I hope you’re not as deluded as you sound, you just desperately are hoping that things had turned out better, and think that maybe in the process of convincing me of this lie you will convince yourself. Sorry. Delusion, no matter how calming and reassuring, cannot help. We screwed up. Big time. All of us screwed up by electing that Moron-in-Chief, and we are all, collectively, bearing the fruits of our own folly. And if it takes a CNN video to remind us of that, so be it. American boys are dying. So are Iraqi boys and girls. No matter how tightly you shut your eyes, no matter how closely you seal your ears, no matter how vehemently you attack the messengers, you will not alter the truth. You have 2 options: face up to it, or turn into li’l andy. For you there is yet hope.

Oh, and I’m sure your dog is 10 times the “lady” Dusty is.

By rushncap

October 30, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

Dusty, @@ can take care of herself. And you will “remain a lady” in much the same sense as Bill Gates will remain a homeless drunk.

I did say “killing our soldiers is reward enough for them”. Yes, I did. What, am I wrong? You got an issue with that? Sorry, honey, truth, she stings.

By Proud Liberal Pinko

October 30, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this

In business, companies measure the worth of a particular investment by examining the return on investment (ROI). I have a few questions, in light of today’s tragic tally of 100 American’s KIA in Iraq during the month of October (and October is not over yet).

Is the ROI worth the outlay? If so, what is that return? And, why is it worth it? If you had it to do it all over again, would you make the same investment?

I’ve been arguing for a great long while that the Iraq conflagration is indeed not and never has been worth the outlay (counted in taxpayer dollars exhausted, US troops KIA, US troops wounded & maimed and Iraqi citizen deaths, etc…). I need some help understanding how anyone can justify the great expense. Can someone from the other side explain why the war in Iraq is worth the outlay.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

rushncap, RW(the original): the news CNN reported regardless of the danger would be the news they reported from Iraq before the war; wait, CNN said they didn’t report some “bad” news from Iraq so they could continue to have access from Saddam. No wonder Ted can’t make up his mind what side he’s on.

By rushncap

October 30, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

So what exactly does your link prove, RW? That CNN was conscientious enough to not report something that could lead people to get hurt? OK, thanks.

You, or anyone else for that matter, has yet to show ANY link between what’s shown on CNN and the insurgency. Do you think that it will go away if we stop reporting on it? Maybe if we have 24 hour long readings of “My Pet Goat” on TV all the world’s problems will be solved, eh?

The video puts no one in immediate danger due to its release… strike that. It does put someone in danger. It puts the Bush administration and the Republicans in Congress in danger. And that, after all, is all you care about. Dying soldiers or dying civilians matter to you only insofar as it leads to Republicans getting elected. So if someone dies and that helps Republicans (i.e. 9/11/2001 videos) that’s “responsible” journalism. If it hurts them (i.e. 9/12/2001-10/30/2006 videos) it’s “irresponsible”. Sorry bud. No can do there.

By getalife

October 30, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

Watching Lynne, it is easy to see why Dick is such a Dick.

No wonder he loves torture. Lots of evil and hatred with the Cheneys.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

The link proves you are a hypocrite, but you prove that on a daily basis so in that regard I guess it proves nothing.

Sorry I don’t have time to join your circular firing squad today, there are voters to call.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

rushncap: does this mean you’ll now say nice things about Bill O’Reilly, because, if I remember correctly, he last week defended (or at least said he understood the reasons) releasing the video?

By rushncap

October 30, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

Actually, Paul, the part of the article that is available for free makes no reference to “not reporting bad news because they wanted access from Saddam”. So you either have access to the full article, or your’re just pulling it out of your well-fed @rse. Which is it?

By getalife

October 30, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

My costume will scare you

By Goldie

October 30, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

Cheney thinks “water-boarding” does not constitute torture— I rhink when he has to testify in the Scooter Libby case, we should have the questions asked of him while performing water-boarding on him at the same time — and televised! Can you tbink of anyone else in America who would deserve it more?

By rushncap

October 30, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this

Ah yes, RW, since you cannot possibly refute what I said, you’re just calling me a “hypocrite” (without any evidence, as always) and slinking away in that trademark “I just got my tail whooped” RW fashion. Good to know that in this topsy-turvy world some things just don’t change. We can all count of RW getting destroyed within 3 posts of starting a debate.

If Bill O’Reilly defended the release of the video then he was right. Just because he’s wrong about 75% of the time does not mean the other 25% never happen, Paul.

By Goldie

October 30, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

“No wonder Ted can’t make up his mind what side he’s on.”

Paul— your comment is so full of holes, it’s hard to know where to begin. First, Ted has nothing to do with CNN anymore, since he sold out to Warner many years ago — CNN has gone downhill ever since.

Second, it’s already been revealed that the so-called quote from Ted after Sept. 11th was a hack-job, by having his comments sliced & dices for Fox News!!

Why don’t you spend some time educating yourself before you post such shi’ite on this blog?

By Dusty

October 30, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

Ah, dear Paul,

Have no fear of “staying the course”. It has only the faintest tinge of those who lean right and will not interfere with your inalterable position of fairness and impartiality.

Was it not the famous captain John Paul Jones who said “Damn the torpedoes. Full speed ahead.”? Now, most certainly, he was saying “Stay the course”.

See. I lead you into constructive thinking with fervent fever.

So, “full speed ahead” and watch the torpedoes. …Duty calls. I go.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

rushncap at 2:17 I was referring to one of two previously reported CNN questionable practices regarding Iraq - neither of which were referenced in the article. The first was referenced, the second was the CNN exec who resigned for accusing US forces of targeting journalists. The purpose of both was to illustrate CNN’s had its share of problems with reporting regarding Iraq.

The O’Reilly cite, by the way, was from his appearance on Oprah last week. That was a very informative show.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

Getalife: she is a vicious, evil, snarling old harpee, isn’t she?

Goldie: I sent Paul a link last night showing how Turner’s comments were distorted and butchered by the “fair and balanced” Fox crew, but he still persists in spreading that lie.

go figure.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

rushncap: don’t know about a ratio in this. Don’t really want to get into an O’Reilly discussion, even though I think he takes more than his share of uninformed cheap shots.
His points were: - Clinton/Bush administrations both saw Saddam as a threat; invasion was justified based upon violation of UN resolutions, etc. - Invasion was based upon “legal” principles plus geopolitical objective of expanding Afghanistan success to flank Iran and mitigate their influence - postinvasion events were not foreseen, adjustments were not made timely, fighting between Sunni/Shia escalated horrifically and the situation is now a complete mess. - defined “win” as leaving a viable (not “democratic”) government - does not know if that is possible - discussed the increased danger the West will face if Iran expands and cements its domination in Iraq.

All thoughtful points. Rather addresses the earlier post regarding “return on investment.”

Main part of Oprah show, though, was his thesis America is comprised of traditionalists (75%) and secular progressives (25%), with the latter receiving much support of mainstream media and entertainment media.

By rushncap

October 30, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

Paul, you cannot possibly expect me to respond to a serious charge without seeing it. Third-hand info from you just does not cut it, I’m afraid. Who made the CNN charge? Where? What evidence is there for it? Etc…

By Midori

October 30, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry, on my last transmission that should have been “last week”.

By rushncap

October 30, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this

Yes, Paul, I know of O’Reilly’s “Secular Progressives” bugaboo.I think he prides himself on having found “the new Commies” who can be attacked with impunity. Good for him, and for his legions of mostly moronic fans. It does not really deserve a response from normal people.

I’m just glad that even O’Reilly finally admits what a giant clusterfuc& the whole Iraq thing has been, for everyone involved.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

Here you go, drunken scumbag

Maybe he wants to get rid of all of Lynn the Harpee’s lesbian fantasies that she was so stupid enough to print?

Huh Drunken Jerkwad?

What do you think?

CAN you think with your mind sotted with bloody mary’s?

are your eyes as bloody as your drink?

Huh walking, talking, stumbling moron?

By Midori

October 30, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this

Funny how the drunken jerkwad thinks that a snarling, fuming, posessed Lynn Cheney’s performance constitutes a “smackdown”.

Only thing that was missing was her head spinning all the way around, a la The Exorcist.

Does she masturbate with crosses too?

What about you, Andy?

I know all about the broomstick, but do you make it with crucifixes like your heroine?

By We're Going To Raise..... Your......Taxes!!!!!

October 30, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

Isn’t wonkette that hoe who boned all those old rancid congressman in Washington, hag?

Some nerve she’s got dissing someone else’s tales of romance.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

Andy!!

I’m shocked!!

You owe your mother more respect!!!

Calling her an “old hoe”.

Or was it your wife you were referring to?

By rushncap

October 30, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

Li’l andy is, as usual, wrong. The Wonkette is a blog to which Washingtonienne’s private notes were leaked. It’s one of Washington’s largest blogs, not a person. Strike 99347465548607867547. You’ve been out for decades.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this

DT’s at 2:58!!!

What would a drunken sot know about “romance”???

By Huge

October 30, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

Conservatism is dying………..LMAO

No, its not.

It’s already dead.

And this country can sadly credit the gutless neo-con lame brains for it…

Midori, Re your 1:26. I’ve never really taken note of the veep’s wife before, but it certainly is no surprise that someone married to that pr!ck would be just like him. She’s apparently now embarrassed about her carpet-muncher references, but why?

I only saw part of the interview, but she looked like an absolute idiot when she “cut and run” from questions about the seedier parts of her book. She certainly didn’t help the administration’s cause any by doing her best Spiro Agnew imitation and questioning whether Blitzer wanted the US to win in Iraq. So incredibly stupid! So incredibly lacking in class! The First Lady probably cringes when she sees her on TV!

Lou Dobbs said it best. “Power bridling at truth”.

By Goldie

October 30, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

Paul— Another link for you, showing how your hero O’Reilly promised to “apologize to the nation” if we found Saddam had no WMDs after we invaded Iraq. Of course, when confronted on “Good Morning America” show a year later, he did no such thing:

Right before U.S. forces invaded Iraq, O’Reilly made a bold promise on ABC about Iraq’s WMDs: “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it’s clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush Administration again, all right?”

Like you, O’Reilly is full of shi’ite, too.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

Midori & Goldie at several earlier times: Okay, this may be a tad long-

Regarding Ted Turner’s comments before the National Press Club on Oct 9 -

(BTW - even when cited as a “media mogul” most Americans identify him with CNN - with the impression his views still carry weight there, esp. with people he brought in)

I read the link you sent (Media Matters) and believe I responded to the effect I disagreed with their reading, as well as the position of Hannity - also said Mr. Turner’s remarks seemed a bit confused as he skipped great periods of time and brought in associations that weren’t accurate to make his Iraq remarks.

So here’s the timeline: Sep 11, 2001 - jihadist attack on Twin Towers

Nov 6, 2001 - Pres Bush first uses “with us or against us” (speaking of nations) at a joint press conference with Pres Chirac Link: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/11/06/ret.bush.coalition/index.html

March 2003 - US invades Iraq

Now fast forward to Mr. Turner’s remarks (I’ll even lift from your Media Matters site) on Oct 9, 2006 (Five years after Pres Bush’s comment):

“Turner spoke before the National Press Club on October 9. During the luncheon’s question-and-answer portion, Turner was asked: “What do you think of the fact that — well, not you, but other people have been, when they’ve criticized the Iraq war, criticized the U.S. government conduct …their patriotism has been questioned.” Turner replied: TURNER: Well, I don’t like to see — you know, there are a lot of things about this war that disturb me. And one of them is the attitude that was well-expressed by our president. He said it very clearly. He said, “Either you’re with us or you’re against us.” And I had a problem with that, because I really hadn’t made my mind up yet. You know, what if you haven’t made your mind up? You know, what if you’re thinking about it, doing some studying, and doing some reading? Because it’s an important decision to go to war, whether or not to go to war. I mean, “You’re either with us or against us” — that’s pretty black and white. And just because you disagree with me about it doesn’t mean you’re not a patrio

By Midori

October 30, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this

Huge,

you are so right!!!

how the heck can worms like Lynn Cheney come down on Webb for writing about things HE HAS ACTUALLY WITNESSED in a war zone, all the time she denies writing about her sexual fantasies.

If I was married to Cheney, I guess I’d have to fantsize about sex too.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this

I emphasize (again) Pres Bush’s remarks were in Nov 2001, Iraq War began March 2003. So whether or not you read Mr. Turner’s remarks “I hadn’t made up my mind yet” - that was a year and a half after 9/11 - or if you read his remarks as referring to the War on Terror - a year and a half again - my point was he seems to take an awfully long time to make up his mind and I read his jumbled as not clearly distinguishing between the war against jihadists or the war in Iraq. I also took it as a kind of playing to the audience “I’m a thoughtful guy and I really disagree with the Pres and wow, I really hadn’t made up my mind about “the” war.”

I thought his remarks were sloppy and left him wide open to criticism.

But, it seems to me you’re in the camp of “no honest disagreements” but “you disagree with how I see things so you spread lies.”

By Paul

October 30, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

Goldie at 3:07 - there’s a difference between an apologist and one who just wants to see quotes reflected accurately.

If memory serves me correctly, that “not fair” quote you recycled came about after San Francisco’s (city council?) voted to prohibit military recruiters access, O’Reilly had on a former councilwoman - and it was obvious to anyone watching it was a pretty sarcastic comment in context. I don’t recall his guest ever complained.

Again, go to the source documents rather than relying on others for analysis…

By Paul

October 30, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

Goldie at 3:16 regarding O’Reilly’s promise to apoligize:

From the ABC transcript: “I was wrong. I am not pleased about it at all and I think all Americans should be concerned about this,” O’Reilly said in an interview with ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

“What do you want me to do, go over and kiss the camera?” asked O’Reilly, who had promised rival ABC last year he would publicly apologize if weapons were not found.

O’Reilly said he was “much more skeptical about the Bush administration now” since former weapons inspector David Kay said he did not think Saddam had any weapons of mass destruction.

While critical of President Bush, O’Reilly said he did not think the president intentionally lied. Rather, O’Reilly blamed CIA Director George Tenet, who was appointed by former President Bill Clinton.

“I don’t know why Tenet still has his job.”

Gee. Actual quote from the actual text. Of course, if you rely on others to tell you what he said, what he meant and why he was wrong…

By Paul

October 30, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

rushncap at 2:41:

Regarding the cite for the CNN exec who accused the US military of targeting journalists:

From CNN’s site: Link: http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/11/easonjordan.cnn/index.html

That was Eason Jordan, Chief News Executive, in early 2005. He subsequently resigned.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

rushncap at 2:47 reminds me of a (New Yorker?) cartoon from early 1990, soon after Soviet Union imploded.

Two guys in suits in section overlooking a military command and control center. One guy to the other “Your mission is to find us an enemy to justify our $250 billion budget.”

By Gordon

October 30, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

Here’s a little know fact: Mike Luckovich used to be a writer for the 60’s sitcom Bewitched. That’s why almost every episode followed the exact same storyline: Endora would cast a spell on Darrin, there would be a lot of hilarious confusion, then Samantha would start to figure it out.

Today Mike works for the AJC and every cartoon is exactly the same thing. The good news is that Bewitched was eventually cancelled.

By N-GA

October 30, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I find it interesting that when you describe the Iraq War as “legal”, you choose to use quotations. There are many who feel the act of pre-emptively invading a sovereign nation is illegal. Also, how can the administration justify its non-stop criticism of the United Nations (it began well before GWB was elected) when it turns around and uses a UN resolution as an excuse to Invade Iraq (it matters not to the discussion that no WMDs were found)? I find the invasion rooted in hypocrisy, especially when Paul Simon (GWB’s Treasury Secretary - vetted by the GOP) writes a book saying that GWB’s Cabinet meetings were a forum for discussing how to go after Iraq from the first month of GWB’s presidency. Of course the administration poo-poos this assertion.

Any reasonable person can only conclude that GWB, Cheney, Rove, and Rumsfeld wanted to destroy Saddam Hussein long before 9/11…all they needed was an excuse. The rest of the world didn’t matter a whit.

Then you quote Bill O’Reilly questioning why Tenet still had a job…this most certainly was before GWB awarded Tenet the Presidential Medal of Freedom (along with Franks and Bremer). (sarc/on) He should also give them Presidential pardons before he leaves office. (sarc/off)

By KZ_Guy

October 30, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

Hey We’re Going to Raise your taxes. Why don’t you get a life? Don’t you have anything better to do than to spread your venom?

By Cal

October 30, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

Midori only needs a blank computer screen and a keyboard to fantasize about sex. I’ll bet the chair she sits on is covered in plastic or at least I hope it is.

By Chet

October 30, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

Did you see President Imbecile’s speech at Charleston AFB? It has been pathetic enough that this drunken dimwit forever repeats, “If wee dont fight em there (Iraq) weel hafta fight em here…in NYC.” At Charleston he said, “If we dont fight em there (Iraq), they’ll FOLLOW US here n weel hafta fight em here.” Gonna FOLLOW US here! How is it possible to support such a freak?? He can only speak at military bases where comments & questions are never permitted. Or at tightly secured venues where only rabid Repugs are permitted. His pickeled brain reveals more w each passing day.

By Sailor

October 30, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

Andie’s new favorite game is Golden Waterboard.

By Goldie

October 30, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

Not only does O’Reilly lie about just about everything, he also makes up awards he has received for “journalism”:

Alas, O’Reilly left “Inside Edition” in 1995 — the year before the show did its George Polk Award-winning exposé on insurance-industry exploitation of poor people

Peabody or Polk awards — never mind — he never received either!

By Midori

October 30, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

N-Ga,

Chimpy’s first Treasury Secretary was Paul O’neill, not Paul Simon :)

got Simon and Garfunkle on your mind? :)

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 30, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

By Huge October 30, 2006 03:14 PM She’s apparently now embarrassed about her carpet-muncher references, but why? she “cut and run” from questions about the seedier parts of her book.

So the libs think lesbians are seedy?

But Fathers suc-king off their 6 year old boys is normal.

And I got it in writing.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

Ah, I see Cal is ready to go home and beat his wife again.

I know because he always visits this blog first to pick a fight with me to get him in the “mood”.

I’ll bet she kicks the crap out of you, doesn’t she?

You like it, don’t you?

However, I must inform you that you need to go elsewhere for your foreplay.

What’s your mom doing?

By getalife

October 30, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this

Forget all that partisan bickering. It does not matter who wins this election. The damage is done and America is no more.

Besides, it is Halloween.

Should I go as Mark Foley or Osama bin Laden?

By Abe

October 30, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this

Correct, Chet. His brain is pickled. He shows almost every sign of the classic long term alcoholic with his words, his delivery, his actions. The average Republiscum is simply too ignorant and uneducated and inexperienced to notice these things. And they don’t give a damn, locked into their own subnormal depths.

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 30, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this

By KZ_Guy October 30, 2006 04:00 PM Hey We’re Going to Raise your taxes. Why don’t you get a life? Don’t you have anything better to do than to spread your venom?

I have a life and I like sticking it up your panty waist pinko liberal a-ss, figuratively speaking.

Anything else I can help you with?

By Goldie

October 30, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

Chet— you’re right. Dubya’s @ss-kissers actually believe that if we leave Iraq, all those Sunni and Shiite fighters are gonna stop fighting each other, hop on some planes, and come visit all of us in America! It’s really so clear to see how that might happen…

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 30, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

By Chet October 30, 2006 04:03 PM Gonna FOLLOW US here! How is it possible to support such a freak??

I wonder if Bush was talking about something like 9/11, huh, makes you wonder, don’t it?

Who’s the freak?

By Paul

October 30, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

N-GA at 3:59 I used quotes on the word “legal” as I was citing another’s view, not my own. I do not agree with all elements of his analysis.

Your last paragraph illustrates why I scratch my head when so many make the “O’Reilly Bush apologist” charge. He was on Oprah last week - I recorded it so I could make sure I heard his views, not someone else’s interpretation - and he had quite a monologue of the principals behind the screw-ups in Iraq - from General Franks to Paul Bremer to George Tenet and on and on - then went on about how Pres Bush awarded them Medals of Freedom instead of - can’t remember his exact words, but they were not kind.

By RE

October 30, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

Shred party at Dick’s

By Midori

October 30, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

Cal, the wife beater.

come out, come out, wherever you are!!

I found someone you can have foreplay with

By blogging for apples at ml's

October 30, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

I see lucko got the trick or treaters in this toon correct. from left to right:

Cheney: Political Foreskin trying to stfu bloggers.

Pink Bunny: rushncap

Witch: Midori the penis envy broom jockey.

Little Shmoo with the Witch’s hair in its mouth: getalife

Braves Bat boy holding hands with schmoo: bon scott.

Mama Goldie’s in the car out front rolling a blunt for the kiddies when they return.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this

see what I mean?

Andy is always fantasizing about sticking something up someone’s bum.

Or sticking something up his own.

i’ll bet he and Cal are good friends.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

Goldie, Rushncap et al - to put the “O’Reilly” thing to bed: Read Media Matters all you want. No different from right-wing partisans getting their feeds from Hannity & co. Always said, if I want to find out what the Republican Party stands for I won’t read Howard Dean. And vice-versa.

But, I cut O’Reilly a lot of slack because of one thing - his efforts on Jessica’s Law. It imposes manatory minimum sentences on child predators who rape and abuse childen. He makes no distinction between male and female predators. He publicizes judges who give light or no sentences to child abusers. He pushes states to adopt the legislation.

What I find appalling is states viewed as “Blue” or “Liberal” such as Vermont, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Youk, Maryland - are the most resistant to strengthing their protections for children and punishing rapists. People who make such a cry for ‘protect the children’ are left seriously wanting.

So he misquotes a few things or raises his voice. Big deal. When he shifts gears to really protecting kids I’m with him.

That’s an analyis you’ll not read in Media Matters. And that’s a shame.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this

ROFL!!!

Andy gets stupider and funnier the drunker he becomes.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

here you go, Andy. be my guest. pick one

By Happy Pinko Bedtime Stories!!

October 30, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

[A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy’s penis in his mouth.-James Webb, democrat, Virginia}(http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2006/10/27/20061027214424flashaw.htm)

Sick, sick, sick.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

you guys wanna see Andy drool (more than he does already?)

he’ll down it by the time he finishes his next stupid, deranged post.

By Buy Danish

October 30, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

I hate to break up the festival of dunces, but here are some sobering words from Victor Davis Hanson.

The most frightening aspect of the present war is how easily our premodern enemies from the Middle East have brought a stunned postmodern world back into the Dark Ages.

Students of history are sickened when they read of the long-ago, gruesome practice of beheading. How brutal were those societies that chopped off the heads of Cicero, Sir Thomas More and Marie Antoinette. And how lucky we thought we were to have evolved from such elemental barbarity.

Twenty-four hundred years ago, Socrates was executed for unpopular speech. The 18th-century European Enlightenment gave people freedom to express views formerly censored by clerics and the state. Just imagine what life was like once upon a time when no one could write music, compose fiction or paint without court or church approval?…

Who would have thought centuries after the Enlightenment that sophisticated Europeans — in fear of radical Islamists — would be afraid to write a novel, put on an opera, draw a cartoon, film a documentary or have their pope discuss comparative theology?

{…civilization is forfeited with a whimper, not a bang. Insidiously, we have allowed radical Islamists to redefine the primordial into the not-so-bad…](http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=25177)

Whimpering Useful Idiots forfeit civilization while carrying the banner of political-correctness and moral relativism.

That “thinking” is how you end up with people like rushncap who say that what CNN did by knowingly spreading Saddam Hussein’s propaganda and lies was a good thing.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

now I know he’s roaring drunk, he can’t even link any more.

With some of the most forceful language he has used on the campaign trail, Webb said he was proud of his writing because it reflects the things he saw as a combat Marine in Vietnam and later as a journalist reporting on war-torn regions such as Beirut in the early 1980s.

“I have lived in the real world, and I have reported the real world in my writings. I started working when I was 12 years old, and I fought in a brutal war. I saw its ugliness while George Allen was hanging out at a dude ranch,” Webb said at a get-out-the-vote rally attended by about 300 people.

On Friday, Webb, a former secretary of the Navy, said Allen’s sister, Jennifer, wrote a book that included descriptions of her brother’s harsh physical treatment of her. Allen said yesterday, “Her book is a novelization… . I didn’t write those passages in my sister’s book.”

Warner noted that Republican Sen. John McCain, an Allen supporter, has praised Webb’s novels. “All they do is smear, smear, smear,” Warner said of the Allen campaign.

By Goldie

October 30, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

“Reality has a liberal bias.” - Stephen Colbert

By getalife

October 30, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

Another attack in Pakistan trying to get #2

By Political Foreskin

October 30, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this

Cartoon Idea: Show Bush as the cowardly lion who stands before the Islamic Crescent, and he suddenly is brave and emboldened into action, and as he vows to act, he’s asked by Dorothy, the tin man, and the scarecrow, “but what if you meet God”? Bush answers, “I’d wrap him up in Celebate!”

Then show Laura Bush lighting a candle of thanxgiving in church. Then show Monica Lewinski telling Laura Bush to “Call me” and miming the phone call with her hands.

How does it feel, Redstaters? How do YOU like it?

By Cal

October 30, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this

Midori, My wife is definitely above me. Women are deserving of a man’s admiration.

A toadstool is pretty high for the likes of you. Of course you’ll have to crawl out from under your rock to find one. I can see you sitting there now. Warts & all.

You’re that final frontier of womanhood. The space between your ears & another area which goes unmentioned, is territory no civil man wants to explore. Not me anyway.

A gutter attracts runoff. Maybe you’ll get lucky with a good acid rainfall.

By Paul

October 30, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this

from Dick Morris: “(Hillary Clinton’s)…last week’s flip-flop on gay marriage, in which she said she would approve of state action to legalize it, came with some reconstructed history that tried to paper over her switch by obfuscating the historical record. Her statement dismissed her support of her husband’s Defense of Marriage Act as “a strategic decision to help derail a constitutional amendment that would have banned gay marriage.” Nonsense. I was in the room at the White House strategy meeting and was sitting next to the president when he decided to promote and sign the bill. Nobody was even talking about a constitutional amendment back then - 1995-96 - and no one in the meeting so much as mentioned the possibility. His decision to sign the bill closely followed my announcement of polling data that suggested overwhelming support for the legislation. His announcement to his staff and advisers that he would sign the bill was, indeed, a strategic decision, but one that related to his re-election prospects rather than to any push for a constitutional amendment. Hillary supported her husband’s decision to sign the bill and has often reiterated her position. Her recent announcement that she would now approve of state action to allow gay marriage is a flip-flop, pure and simple…”

Couldn’t find anything about this “historical revision” in Media Matters. Maybe it’ll be in this week’s Time or Newsweek. Or on Keith Olberman. Maybe an indepth examinatin elsewhere on MSNBC?

Naaaaw.

In the interest of citing source material, the entire column is here: Link: http://www.vote.com/magazine/columns/dickmorris/column60423131.phtml

By Huge

October 30, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

“So he (O’Reilly) misquotes a few things or raises his voice”

That’s certainly putting a nice spin on a guy notorious for countless white-lies, half-truths and good old fashioned prevarication! And who threatened some poor schmuck in Fla. with a visit from his goons.

His ratings must be slipping as lately it seems his venom factor has gone down. Maybe he’s losing interest in fighting so hard for his neo-con masters. You know, the one’s whose policies he has faithfully parroted and who have made him fabulously wealthy. He now only agrees with them about 90% of the time.

Did that first post at 4:11 make even an inkling of sense?

By Paul

October 30, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

Huge,

It’s a shame you ignore the entire point of the post - the guy has been an effective trailblazer for pressuring states to enact tough legislation to punish child molesters and child rapists, and instead pull one dismissive line about his characteristics that attract the most negative press.

But that’s what I expect from those who take hyperpartisan postitions - identify an enemy, recognize no good from him/her and seize on peripheral issues rather than the main issue under discussion (he’s for justice for child abuse victims, “liberal” states, jurists and state legislative leaders fight the efforts).

By Midori

October 30, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

oh, Cal. come on now.

you know your wife stomps that thick, dull, empty head on a regular basis.

ribbit!!!

you like licking toadstools, don’t you?

the colors man!!!! the colors!!!

Is that what you do after she beats your stupid head in?

ribbit!!!!

By N-GA

October 30, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I agree that O’Reilly has some merit…but not much. For example, I dislike his “style” of cutting off callers in mid-sentence when he dislikes what they have to say. I also think that he is wrong when he said (on Oprah) that everyone falls into one of two camps (pardon my loose description of what he actually said). He was adamant that there are only two possible choices to describe an individual’s political position. I don’t recall his exact terms. His cop-out was that you could belong in one “camp” while having positions that differed from the group. Example: Liberal, but opposed to abortion (my example).

I agree that anyone can have what are referred to as liberal positions while having conservative positions at the same time. But one must not pigeonhole everyone into one of two camps. It is a continuum that extends between both extremes. That is why we have centrists, Greens, Libertarians, etc. But O’Reilly was adamant on the show, I think because he had to defend what he had written in the book he was selling.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

{{{{A gutter attracts runoff. Maybe you’ll get lucky with a good acid rainfall.}}}}}

yet you come here day after day, wanting my attention.

what does that say about you, Cal?

{{{You’re that final frontier of womanhood}}}

that’s because I stand up to beligerent bullies like you. Can’t take it? Don’t dish it out.

{{{{The space between your ears & another area which goes unmentioned, is territory no civil man wants to explore. Not me anyway.}}}}

again, you come here daily to attack me. you must want SOMETHING. and again, what does that say about “YOU”???

now go home and get your shoe box.

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 30, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

Anybody got any really racy excerpts from Lynn Cheney’s novel?

I’m kind of waiting here.

If you pinkos had anything near as awful and sick as what Webb, democrat, Virginia, has on his mind, you’d have shared it with us by now.

Tick tock.

By Huge

October 30, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

Paul

My mistake. I started out my repost to you with an statement about how he was to be commended for his efforts in that area, which I have seen and agree with. I inadvertently deleted it.

But as to the hyper-partisan hype, it’s interesting that you apparently don’t recognize or wish not to acknowledge him as a paragon of that.

By N-GA

October 30, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

Paul,

One other point about O’Reilly. When he settled that lawsuit with his ex-employee, the settlement required that neither party disclose the settlement terms.

I would trust him a lot more if he had insisted that the settlement be made public. Only the guilty have something to hide…and his ex-employee has little to gain from hiding the truth.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

{{{{{{And who threatened some poor schmuck in Fla. with a visit from his goons.}}}}}}

Talk about half-truths and outright prevarication…sheesh

rushncap,

When you say that CNN should show the whole truth, but then equivocate if it covers up Saddam’s atrocities that is a hypocritical stance. Since you repeated over and over that that is in fact your stance, you are a hypocrite.

See how easy that was? And on my third post of the day! I guess that makes you a loser too, but that’s another thing we already knew. I can’t wait to see if you have the nerve to slink back in here on the 8th.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

Cal,

I’m beginning to think you’re like the snot-nosed bully in the school yard.

You have to beat your chest in front of the “men” and pick on girls, just to show how “manly” you are.

Don’t you get sick of failure?

By bon scott

October 30, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

Notice that as the day progresses, Andy gets drunker and drunker, and soon sinks into his favorite obsession?? Which is sex, of course.

When Allen’s attempt to criticize (via Drudge) a work of fiction by Webb backfires to the point where even wingnuts like Michelle Malkin are telling him to back off, you know he’s toast.

The only people in Virginia who might be offended by Webb’s writings are people who already had every intention of voting for Allen anyway. No great loss.

Have another drink, Andy.

By N-GA

October 30, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this

Paul, Perhaps tomorrow we can have a discussion on some real cuurent news: “The United States is headed for a financial crisis unless it alters its course of racking up big budget deficits year after year, comptroller general David Walker told a British audience at LSE on Tuesday.”

Even Warren Buffet thinks he’s right. Gold is over $600/oz again today.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

Bonn Scott,

I’ve already given him a bottle of paint thinner.

don’t light a match around him.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

In between all the links to Wonkette’s shredder picture, which may not even be real based on their track record, we have a bunch of links making reference to the supposed smut in Lynn Cheney’s book.

Why do they all go to a Washington Post story that doesn’t even quote them? Let me guess, it’s another left wing lie, right? What do I win, an autographed set of Wonkette photoshops?

By getalife

October 30, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

Andy is in desperate need of an intervention.

Sick,sick,sick.

By Huge

October 30, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

What’s the matter, RW? Have you conveniently forgotten the following phone conversation already?

” The caller began by telling O’Reilly, “I like to listen to you during the day.” Continuing, the caller stated, “I think Keith Olbermann’s show,” at which point O’Reilly disconnected the call, proclaiming: “Mike is — he’s a gone guy. You know, we have his — we have your phone numbers, by the way. So, if you’re listening, Mike, we have your phone number, and we’re going to turn it over to Fox security, and you’ll be getting a little visit.”

I’m glad I could refresh your memory and help you with a better understanding of outright prevarications…

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 30, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this

oddball gay finch: For someone who doesn’t have ONE SINGLE POST from the last 6 months that doesn’t say something about Andy, you sure have got some effing nerve calling me obsessed.

I sure ain’t gonna miss your odd bizarre little a-ss come Novenver the 8th.

By bon scott

October 30, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

CNN’s Wolf Blitzer just read excerpts from Lynn Cheney’s book. My, my.

Hemingway has nothing to worry about. Neither does Webb. Mrs. Darth has quite the imagination!

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this

Huge prevaricator,

I thought you were talking about the Florida judge. Would you like to give a credible link to the incident you cite at 5:43?* I’m not really up on O’Reilly trivia, beyond his work for child protection laws he’s a little too centrist for my liking.

.

*It’s not like I think you would fail to provide proper context or anything. /sarc

By Huge

October 30, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

Why don’t you wingnut neo-cons just go burn some books. You’ll feel a hole (word intentionally misspelled) lot better!

By bon scott

October 30, 2006 06:06 PM | Link to this

Dear monkeyshines - ever heard of historical novels? Fact based fiction?

That’s what Webb has written. Fictional narratives based on personal observation.

I’ll understand it if you find this concept too difficult to grasp. But that’s what you get for slumming with drunken Andy.

Throw the Bush GOP out November 7.

By Huge

October 30, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

RW,

“I thought you were talking about the Florida judge.”

You’ve been warned repeatedly here about thinking! /sarc

Are you pretending to be a dunce today, or do you enjoy the taste of your foot in your mouth?

Go look up the O’Reilly incident for yourself, you lazy arse.

There’s this thing on the “Internets” (thanks to GWB for that one) now called search engines. If you’re a novice, try Google for starters. If you come up with a goose egg, I’ll help you out.

Also, hysterical that you “see” O’Reilly as centrist!!!

By RSW

October 30, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this

Well done, Mike. That’s an accurate representation of our Vice-President’s thought process.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2006 06:16 PM | Link to this

I see finchie, I’ll try that again:

When Allen’s attempt to criticize (via Drudge) a work of fiction by Webb backfires to the point where even wingnuts like Michelle Malkin are telling him to back off, you know he’s toast.

Nope, it still doesn’t say anything about “fact based” in your paragraph. Was it the hallucinations that first put you in the sanitarium that Reagan kicked you out of?

By RE

October 30, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

RW, thanks for the Malikin in a bikini shots.

Even if they are photoshopped, she is sexy as hell.

Bat sh-t crazy, but sexy

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this

RSW,

Just out of curiosity, how would you or ml know what accurately reflects the thought process of the Vice-President?

By @@

October 30, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

rushncap: It’s odd you would say this given your opinion regarding Israel’s right to exist:

{{{These people were INVADED by a foreign power whom they believe to be opposed to their deeply-held religious views.}}}

Now there are those here who would say that Israel invaded the Middle East. I’m of the opinion that those brave souls were simply returning to their homeland. They want to live in peace and have no problem with how Muslims choose to worship next door.

I’m concerned that you see hope as an act of desperation. It’s what guides my life. What guides yours?

Also rushncap, my “Buddy” is what I like to call a gentleman (male) dog. You could take a lesson from him with your comments about and to Dusty.

Midori could very easily compare you to Cal.

{{{By Midori October 30, 2006 05:31 PM}}}

{{{Cal, I’m beginning to think you’re like the snot-nosed bully in the school yard.}}}

{{{You have to beat your chest in front of the “men” and pick on girls, just to show how “manly” you are.}}}

{{{Don’t you get sick of failure?}}}

Do you really want Midori to think of YOU that way?

By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!

October 30, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

Democrats who cast votes after they died outnumbered Republicans by more than 4 to 1.

Ehehehehe.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

I just got back from the sewer.

Nice seeing you again, @@.

I’ve always known you couldn’t think for yourself.

Thanks for the confirmation.

By @@

October 30, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this

Oops, I forgot.

Apologies to Cal.

By RSW

October 30, 2006 06:39 PM | Link to this

Dear Mr. RW. Of course, I am operating on the presupposition that the VP has a mind.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this

I see RW still hasn’t gotten over me.

back to the sewer I go.

Let’s see if he will follow me there.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this

Dear RSW,

Supposing that the VP does in fact have a mind, how would you know what accurately reflects his thought process?

For one I can assure you that Cheney isn’t nearly as concerned with a confession as he is with operational planning information to stop a future attack from ever happening.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this

well, Andy — you should be happy being that all the vote glitches are always in the Republicans’ favor.

Why don’t you do a little grave robbing; that will surely put your candidates over the top.

By Midori

October 30, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this

Hello to you, RSW.

Welcome.

Engage with stalker at your own peril.

Forewarned is forearmed.

By @@

October 30, 2006 06:50 PM | Link to this

Hello to you to Midori. Based on what I’ve read of your posts this afternoon, it’s confirmed that I can think…period.

You on the other hand possess a pea-sized brain suitable for a parrot.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2006 06:54 PM | Link to this

To anyone reading here, I welcome your perusal of the thread to compare my demeanor with that of the self-described gutter dweller.

By @@

October 30, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

Oh and btw Midori. There’s no such word as “stupider” like you used somewhere ^^^ up there.

It’s “more stupid” and can be applied progressively to each post you make.

By getalife

October 30, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

Cheney gets off on this.

The voting machines are flawed, the election will end up in the courts.

Neither party will bring our country back to the America we knew. We torture, we trashed the constitution, we bomb children.

We will know why we will be attacked again. Lets just sit back and watch it all go to hell.

Of course, it will all be blamed on “Clenis”.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

OOPS!!

That should read SEWER dweller, not GUTTER. Sorry for mischaracterizing your domicile Midori.

By bon scott

October 30, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this

By pederast Andy’s drunk again - October 30, 2006 06:29 PM - More gay bashing from the wetbrain chickenhawk who can’t tell reality from fiction… or male plumbing from female plumbing blah blah blah…

It’s been fun messing with your head, you old sot! Why don’t you leave us with that review of your favorite ways to get your little friends “in the mood”??

Maybe monkeyshines can take pictures! That is, after he figures out how he can read Darth Cheney’s mind (confessions vs. operational planning) but RSW can’t.

Vote the Bush GOP out November 7th. You’ll be so glad you did!

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2006 07:08 PM | Link to this

Sybil bon finchie,

I know that the shock treatments and subsequent life on the streets, after Reagan kicked you out, have taken their toll on what little brain function you once had, but let me try to help you.

I know that Cheney is more concerned with operational planning and less concerned with confessions because he says that every freaking time he’s interviewed or makes a speech. That really doesn’t qualify as mind reading in the sense that saying that this cartoon accurately reflects Cheney’s thought process does, now does it?

By @@

October 31, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

Does ml have the day off? No need to comment twice.

Question though in reference to voter fraud.

Up until recently I’ve supported a paper trail for votes cast. However, it has been brought to my attention that votes could be bought, and proof to collect on the investment would lie within the paper trail that confirms.

Interesting. A possible unintended consequence?

 

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