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DEL.ICIO.USWhat’s in a name?
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By We're Going To Raise..... Your......Taxes!!!!!
October 24, 2006 07:48 AM | Link to this
Gosh, what an imagination you have, cartoon boy, it’s almost like you are a Bush bashing pioneer:
Swimmer Ted Kennedy…mangled the name of the Democrats’ new star, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, calling him “Osama bin…Osama…Obama.”-Reason
How original.
Counting on the ignorance of AJC subscribers again, eh?
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But let’s take Mr. Kerry and CNN at their word and assume that this type of footage has journalistic merit. It follows that CNN should also have shown its hours of footage from September 11. We’re talking about the people trapped in the World Trade Center who decided to jump and the other grisly images most Americans have never seen. Or what about the tape showing Iraqi terrorists beheading Nick Berg? CNN has kept this footage locked away out of some faux sensitivity for Americans’ fragile spines. The only way one can see the full horror of September 11 and other terrorist carnage is by downloading amateur videos off the Internet. This sort of forced logic does a poor job of masking CNN’s and its defenders’ real motives. Their goal here is to undermine the war effort, even if that means being a mouthpiece for terrorist propaganda.-WashingtonTimes
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The Founders recognized that secrecy and fast action in respect of foreign and security policy can be vital to the national interest, which is why they vested such powers in the president. That point has been too often lost during President Bush’s attempt to prosecute the war on terror. Despite the administration’s briefings of key lawmakers, including Ms. Harman, on programs like the warrantless terrorist surveillance operation, Democrats have called for even more “cooperation” with Congress. It’s now beginning to look like such secrets aren’t necessarily safe even with the intelligence committee. Democrats’ caterwauling about Mr. Bush’s alleged obsession with imperious secrecy will ring hollow until they come clean about their own willingness — and ability — to keep important state secrets.-NYSun
By We're Going To Raise..... Your......Taxes!!!!!
October 24, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this
During the past year, the American people have witnessed an unprecedented parade of environmental alarmism by the media and entertainment industry, linking every possible weather event to global warming. The year 2006 saw many major organs of the media dismiss any pretense of balance and objectivity on climate change coverage and cross squarely into global-warming advocacy.-HumanEvents
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Their strategy is to second-guess, denigrate and undermine Republicans instead of offering an agenda of their own. Rather than having a contract with America, they are seeking a blank check from America. Moreover, they may get it. It would be worse than obscene for some voters to cut off their nose to spite their face by either staying home on election day or actually voting a blank check from America for a party with a decades-long history of irresponsibility on national defense.-RealClearPolitics
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Investors Business Daily recently pointed out that since the Bush tax cuts took effect in 2003, “the economy has added $1.26 trillion in real output, $14.4 trillion in net wealth and 5.8 million new jobs.” But that progress doesn’t seem to matter to the liberals, whose primary goal is to raise income tax rates. “Taxing the rich” will be the leading economic argument of a 2007 Democratic House, and a rollback tax bill of some kind will reach the floor.-OpinionJournal
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The English writer G.K. Chesterton feared that if Christianity ever began to disappear, “superstition would drown out all your old rationalism and skepticism.” He is often quoted as saying that when people stop believing in God “they don’t believe in nothing, but in anything.”- AmericanSpectator
By We're Going To Raise..... Your......Taxes!!!!!
October 24, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this
And here’s a clue: While the Missouri Supreme Court was preparing its decision earlier this month, the Kansas City Star and St. Louis Post-Dispatch ran front-page stories about the thousands of fraudulent voter registrations submitted by Acorn, a national left-wing group financed in part by organized labor. According to the Star, Acorn’s voter registration drive generated some 35,000 applications, “but thousands of them appear to be duplicates or contain dubious data.” The report went on to note that “[n]ear the top of the fishy list would be a man named Mark who apparently registered seven times over a three-day period using his mother’s home address and phone number.” Mom told the paper he hadn’t lived there in six years.-OpinionJournal
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“You ever see a picture of her back then? Whew,” said John Spencer of Clinton’s younger days. “I don’t know why Bill married her,” he said of the Clintons, who celebrated their 31st anniversary this month. Noting Hillary Clinton looks much different now, he chalked it up to “millions of dollars” of “work” - plastic surgery. “She looks good now,” he said. Spencer’s bizarre comments came during a conversation with a reporter seated beside him.-NYDaily”News”
Bizarre is right, what the hell does this guy mean “she looks good?”
This Spencer dude is weird and sick.
Gee, I hope my critique of the Senator doesn’t cause me to be found dead in Fort Marcy Park or anything.
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Today’s cartoon that doesn’t suck! (Look at the Rat democrat on the floor, hahaha.)
By Mrs. Godzilla
October 24, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this
Every time somebody says Obama, Bush says “Roll Tide”…….
By Mrs. Godzilla
October 24, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this
Wow…..NY Sun and Washington Times…..
By Alfred E. Republican (What ME, Rules ? ? ?)
October 24, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this
^^^ More evidence of how Reublicans think that rules are for everyone but them ! ! ! This is the same kind of honesty and integrity they have demonstarted in governing our country as well. Color me sooooo surprised. [Blog open for commenting from 8am-7pm]
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 08:11 AM | Link to this
Dems are also excited that Dubya is still campaigning and doing photo-ops with those Repugnants who still don’t get it — “Four more wars!”
By Support Our Troops- Vote Democrat
October 24, 2006 08:15 AM | Link to this
CHICAGO (AFP) - A US Army helicopter pilot who lost both her legs in Iraq is leading a platoon of Democratic veterans who are taking their opposition to the war to the campaign trail for November 7 elections.
A political novice, Tammy Duckworth, 38, was hand-picked to challenge a previously solidly Republican Congressional seat in the wealthy suburbs of Chicago while she was still learning to walk on her prosthetic legs.
SUPORT OUR TROOPS ! ! !
Iraq Veterans Against the War
By candide
October 24, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this
Yes, it will be hard to be elected with a name like Obama. But Bush got elected with a name like Bush!
By Republicans Slap the Disabled When They're Down
October 24, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this
CHEYENNE, Wyo. - Thomas Rankin, the Libertarian running for Wyoming’s lone U.S. House seat, said Rep. Barbara Cubin (R-WY), threatened to slap him after a televised debate.
During a debate Sunday that also included Democrat Gary Trauner, Cubin and Rankin had a testy exchange over campaign contributions Cubin received from former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX).
Rankin, who has multiple sclerosis and uses an electric wheelchair, said Monday night in a telephone interview with The Associated Press that the confrontation occurred immediately after the debate.
Republicans are slapping our soldiers around with multiple redeployments, cuts in VA services, and MEAGER compensation. They might as well slap some disabled folks around some too ! ! !
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla,
Wow…Here’s a convenient link for you to “The Nation”.
Happy?
By Two Faced GOPhers
October 24, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON - The House Republican campaign chairman and the speaker of the House are likely to be at odds this week as they testify about the handling of ex-Rep. Mark Foley’s come-ons to male pages.
Republicans just can’t decide which one of their two faces to speak out of these days, can they ? ? ?
By Two Faced GOPhers Got No Ethics
October 24, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this
COVINGTON, Ky. - To the north of this river town, Ohio Gov. Bob Taft has pleaded no contest to ethics violations. To the south, Kentucky Gov. Ernie Fletcher has acknowledged that people working for him may have wrongly rewarded political supporters with jobs. Two states, two damaged administrations, and two Republican governors.
The operative word is, as usual, REPUBLICAN when it comes to any talk of ETHICS VIOLATIONS ! ! !
By GOPhers Copy Democrats
October 24, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this
DAVIE, Fla. - Republican Rep. Katherine Harris, badly needing to score points against Sen. Bill Nelson during their first TV debate, ended up agreeing with the Democratic incumbent almost as much as she differed with him.
This sounds about right. Afterall, Republicans have been telling us for years that ‘Clinton did it first’ and that they have just been copying his actions ! ! !
By Eric
October 24, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this
This cartoon is not a product of imagination. It’s a true story.
By GOPher Mealy Mouths
October 24, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Independent voters overwhelmingly favor Democrats to take over the U.S. House of Representatives in the November 7 election and back them on major issues, a new Washington Post-ABC News poll said on Monday.
The independents surveyed said they plan to support Democratic congressional candidates over Republicans by a roughly 2-to-1 margin — 59 percent to 31 percent — the largest gap in the poll this year, The Washington Post said.
Republicans have been USING evangelicals and other swing voters for years. They SAY they are going to stop abortion, put religion back in school, restore dignity to government (one congressional page at a time), stop graft, blah, blah, blah. But when push comes to shove, what have they really done…….NOTHING ! ! !
By mike
October 24, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this
Oh I get it! Bush is dumb!
Wow, Mikey the bigot sure is topical.
BTW: Did you know that Mikey the bigot visited an Army hospital last year? Well if you forgot, Mikey the bigot has a link on the front page of his section in case you forgot. I guess he thinks that makes him a patriot or something.
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this
An article this week about some of Andy’s and Danish-donut’s friends:
Inside the secret world of white supremacy
Click those heels and salute the Fuhrer!
By Honest People Got Nothin To Hide.....Republicans Hide Everything
October 24, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON - A leading Republican lawmaker on defense issues has asked the Pentagon to bar CNN reporters from traveling with military units in Iraq because the network showed insurgent snipers shooting at U.S. troops.
No, no, no….mustn’t let the American electorate see what is REALLY happening in Iraq. Republicans think that the American voter can’t be trusted with the TRUTH ! ! !
By I Don't Have A Brain So I Blame EVERYTHING On Bush
October 24, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this
SAN JOSE DEL CABO, Mexico - Hurricane Paul weakened Tuesday, but emergency workers remained on standby to evacuate thousands of residents from this popular resort.-YahooSpammie
Bush is the man! ! ! Took that hurricane’s a-ss out! ! ! Rescued all those people! ! ! Elect a democrat and they’ll all die next time ! ! !
By GOPher Payoffs
October 24, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON - Columnist Armstrong Williams has reached a settlement with prosecutors regarding payments he received by the Education Department to promote President Bush’s agenda.
The only way Republicans can get ANYBODY to agree with them about ANYTHING is if they pay them off first ! ! !
By I Don't Have A Brain So I Blame EVERYTHING On Bush
October 24, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this
CHICAGO - New research on vegetables and aging gives mothers another reason to say “I told you so.” It found that eating vegetables appears to help keep the brain young and may slow the mental decline sometimes associated with growing old.-YahooSpammie
Bush is the man! ! ! Growing healthy vegetables and making kids smart ! ! ! Elect a democrat and your children will be stupid, like Yahoo Spammie is! ! !
By Phil
October 24, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this
I think the true clip of Ted Kennedy’s actual confusion between Osama and Obama was about 10 times funnier than the rip off with GWB.
By Reader
October 24, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this
You would have to double Dumbya’s IQ for him to qualify as a dummy.
By Phil
October 24, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this
I think the true clip of Ted Kennedy’s actual confusion between Osama and Obama was about 10 times funnier than the rip off with GWB.
By Fairness- GOPher Style
October 24, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON - Public corruption cases brought by Justice Department prosecutors in Washington are on the rise, fueled in part by investigations targeting Republican lawmakers in Congress.
Gonzales said there is “no special emphasis” on those cases as the elections approach. But the Justice Department generally tries to keep a low profile on government corruption cases in the months before an election to avoid unfairly influencing voters.
Yeh, we wouldn’t want those nasty old voters unfairly influenced by the TRUTH, would we ? ? ?
By Paul
October 24, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this
So, casting aside the “Bush is a dummie” usual slam (I agree with Phil - Sen Kennedy would have been more apropos) - just what does Sen Obama offer? - he’s charismatic - he’s intelligent, thoughtful in responses - not a namecaller to his opponents, sees both sides of issues - he’s black - he’s not Hillary
And his stands on issues? - don’t really know yet, but he’s black, intelligent, charismatic and not Hillary - one issue, NPR report last week, opposed Detainee Act because it doesn’t provide Hapeas Corpus for terrorists - in other words he’s on the “terrorists get constitutional rights, this is law enforcement, not war” side. This one’s a dealbreaker for me.
Plus, two years in gov’t service - relatively young - I think running now is a bit premature.
By GOPher Liberators
October 24, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON - Majorities of Iraqi youth in Arab regions of the country believe security would improve and violence decrease if the U.S.-led forces left immediately, according to a State Department poll that provides a window into the grim warnings provided to policymakers.
The survey — unclassified, but marked “For Official U.S. Government Use Only” — also finds that Iraqi leaders may face particular difficulty recruiting young Sunni Arabs to join the stumbling security forces. Strong majorities of 15- to 29-year-olds in two Arab Sunni areas — Mosul and Tikrit-Baquba — would oppose joining the Iraqi army or police.
Didn’t the Chimperor tell us that we ‘would be greeted as liberators’ and that the insurrgents ‘were in their last throes’? Republicans have told so many LIES now that even THEY can’t keep them straight ! ! !
By Paul
October 24, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this
Republicans slap disabled at 8:25: “meager compensation” for military: you sound like that poster who keeps tossing this about - if you’re the same, last week I replied with a few examples of compensation levels and an explanation of why “soldier have to pay for their meals.” Just why do you think military compensation is “meager”? Numbers, please -
By Mensa
October 24, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this
Hasert is being set up as the fall guy after the Nov 7 blood bath. He will be gone by the weekend after the elections. Who really wants someone that stupid as their Speaker. Since his brain (Delay)resigned Hasert has been exposed for what he really is: an overmatched school teacher.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this
Reader at 9:07: anyone who would say that and accuse someone else of lack of intelligence…
You may want to review earlier discussions, sp. Kerry-Bush commissioning aptitude test results, college results, etc. While neither was stellar when compared to the population of past presidents, they are clearly in the upper echelon of the general population - which is why many may not be able to process this information.
By GOPher Entitlements
October 24, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON - President Bush said Friday that Republicans are missing an opportunity if they’re not talking up the Medicare drug benefit while campaigning this election season.
Yeh, Chimpy. The largest entitlement program since Johnson’s ‘Great Society’ should play real well with the Republican base ! ! ! This is just one more area where King George has betrayed the Republican base and he’s DAMN PROUD of it ! ! !
By Paul
October 24, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this
Mensa at 9:19: excellent illustration of opposites - your nom de plume and your comments!
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this
Why would Dubya insist on passing his “torture bill” when military intelligence told him that torture does not work?
military prosecutors told them not to worry about making a criminal case against al-Qahtani, the suspected “20th hijacker” of Sept. 11, because what had been done to him would prevent him from ever being put on trial
Was it Dubya’s Christian values that made him do it — like when Jesus said “torture thine enemies”?
By GOPhers Won't Pay Soldiers a Living Wage
October 24, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this
SAN DIEGO - Thousands of U.S. troops are being barred from overseas duty because they are so deep in debt they are considered security risks, according to an Associated Press review of military records.
Here you go,Paul, thousands of facts for you. You are the same GOPher that was trying to tell us last week that the average GI was pulling down 6 figures in tax adjusted income. You may THINK you can ‘Fool ALL of the People ALL of the Time’ like all Republicans do but the American public knows different. The American soldier has faired no better under Republican administrations than Democratic ones, in fact a damn sight worse.
The link demonstrates the depth of your ignorance regarding the topic of fairness in military compensation. I suppose you would then have us believe that the soldiers in the link were just aberrations, right? Considering that you most often lean Republican, color me sooooo surprised ! ! !
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this
Rather than developing a strategy for the Iraq war, Dubya thinks instead that changing the propaganda will work for Americans:
“We will win in Iraq so long as we stay the course,” he said in Milwaukee in July
By Integrity of the GOPher Press
October 24, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON - A U.S. military propaganda program used in the Iraq war was legal under the rules for psychological operations, a Pentagon investigation has concluded.
A classified Defense Department inspector general’s report said regulations were followed when the military paid to have favorable stories about coalition forces planted in Iraqi newspapers, according to the unclassified executive summary obtained Thursday by The Associated Press.
I thought that the Republicans were telling us that ‘no good news is ever reported from Iraq’. What, didn’t they get what they PAID for ? ? ?
By Paul
October 24, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this
G’morning Goldie! I understand your comment - don’t want to get into another discussion of “torture vs interrogation” - but on the subject of Christian values applied to real-world warfare -
Our enemy does not adhere to rules of armed conflict (no excuse for us not to), targets civilians as a matter of course (their philosophy - all infidels deserve death) and are willing to use whatever weapons come to hand.
So the question remains - given someone with definite knowledge of current operations - such as Khalid Sheik Mohammed - impending operations and organizational structure - given that delays in obtaining information will cause innocents - women, children, old people, to be tortured and killed - just how should we obtain the information? Or should we not make any efforts to quickly obtain the information?
By GOPher Kid Killers
October 24, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this
JALALABAD, Afghanistan (AFP) - Three children were killed when a mortar test-fired by NATO troops fell short of its target and hit a home in Afghanistan, police and the force said.
Republicans LIE, kids DIE ! ! !
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this
Another friend of Dubya bites the dust:
Skilling Gets 24 Years for Fraud at Enron
Like too many Repugnants, Skilling loved his money more than anything and destroyed Americans’ lives in the process!
By @@
October 24, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this
Andy’s right. Kennedy never gets called on his liberal missteps. Always forgiven by his constituents. He just keeps drilling ‘em while they sleep.
“This is the greatest act of legislative malfeasance of the last half-century. This is what Ted Kennedy has to be held accountable for,” Chase said.
A spokeswoman for Kennedy did not immediately return a call for comment.
I’ve watched Obama. He’s charming, well-spoken, but rarely will he offer anything substantial. I fear he’s being pushed to garner black votes. He won’t win the nomination in 2008. In contrast, Maryland’s Micheal Steele, stands for something and isn’t shy about it.
“You have to go into this race with your eyes wide open. You can’t sit back and pretend that everybody is going to love you and just vote for you because you are a member of their party or you hold their values.”
Not your typical politician. The kind that will win my vote everytime.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this
GOPhers at 9:36: it is evident from your comment you do not understand military compensation or the difference between take-home pay and the value of a compensation package.
The six-figure numbers I related last week are the value of the compensation package - not direct pay. They were reported by the Congressional Accountability Office - I’ll provide a cite if you’d like. In brief - you are offered a job paying $50,000 a year, no benefits, salary only. You are offered another job paying salary of $50,000 a year, but thirty percent is tax-free, you receive health care with no deducibles and no limits, you will receive a defined benefits pension adjusted for inflation for life, which do you take? The first package is worth $50,000, the second is worth considerably more as that is the cost to the employer.
The wire service story you cite also brought up several other factors - poor financial choices by first-term enlistees, ignoring financial counseling offered by the services, not adjusting to changes in financial situation when tax-free allowance is rescinded and combat pay is eliminated, etc. I haven’t checked, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the military standards for determining when to pull security clearances for financial irresponsibility, when applied to the appropriate counterpart in the civilian community, would result in an equal or higher level.
“Fairness” in compensation? Another meaningless word. Military personnel are compensated based upon rank, years’ service, time in grade - with additions for special pays and bonuses. It strikes me as much “fairer” than many civilian organizations - some where one can be fired for even discussing “how much do you make?”
If you want to provide specifics, fine, otherwise the rhetoric is a bit tiresome -
By Redneck
October 24, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this
Know why there are so many left wing loonies posting on here an not many repubs? The left wing loonies are able to survive on welfare and other government handouts while the repubs work to provide them!!!!!
By Please Donlt Beat Me Massa George
October 24, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON - A senior U.S. diplomat apologized Sunday night for saying U.S. policy in Iraq displayed “arrogance” and “stupidity.”
A day after his remarks in an interview were broadcast by the pan-Arab satellite channel Al-Jazeera, Alberto Fernandez issued a written apology through the State Department press office.
Ahs so sorry massa George. Pleez don’ fire me. I promise I won’t ever speak another word of truth again, ever ! ! !
By Redneck
October 24, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this
Know why the dems want the national minimum wage increased? There are not smart enough to get a job paying more that minimum wage!!!!
By Redneck
October 24, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
Why oh Why did god ever let Ted Kennedy learn how to swim. Guess there really ain’t no justice in the world!!!!!
By Andy
October 24, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this
Does Bush call it, “Jacks”, anymore? Or is he call it “onesies”. Soon, W will learn how to do “twosies”, and will change the name of “Jacks” to that.
“Stay the course?” Dont be ridiculous, George Stephanopolous, W was never, “Stay the course”, he only reiterated “Stay the course”, 8 thousand times on television, but in each and every utterance he was misquoted and taken out of content, er, contrast, uh, contest. (context)
What W, as a born again christian coalescent, meant to say, (and what he really did say), was “Use the Force”, (Luke chapter 13, verses 23-46).
We need a holyman as our commander in chief to counterbalance the advantage that Sunni/Shia militias have with their mullahs and clerics.
Bush was quoting the Gospel according to Luke Skywalker. Come on, you liberal traitors. Give W a break.
Honestly.
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this
“The left wing loonies are able to survive on welfare and other government handouts while the repubs work to provide them”
Redneck— you must be burning up about the amount of welfare given to large corporations by your Repugnant Party! Billions of dollars given away to American oil companies alone… aren’t you just fuming mad about that?
By Paul
October 24, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this
Goldie 10:09: good point. The term coined some years back was “corporate welfare.” Illustrated the shift in federal revenue from corporations to individuals.
Lot of hypocrisy there - George Soros - moneyman for far left causes like the now-bankrupt Air America - has shifted a huge amount of his assets to the Caribbean - to escape paying taxes.
One of the best remarks I’ve heard in a while was in response to a taxpayer quizzing a Congressman about “tax loopholes” to which the Congressman replied,”That isn’t a loophole. It’s a specific legislative insert in response to a campaign contribution.”
By Mensa 2X
October 24, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this
Hey Paul, good catch. You don’t think anyone with real intelligence would waste their time reading crap like this do you?
By Still Tryin to 'Fool ALL of the People ALL of the Time'
October 24, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this
Paul- You ignore the fact that military personnel are in prime physical condition. Health care provisions really aren’t worth much in the first place to those who don’t need them unless poor planning and preparation get them shot.
You, also, ignore the burdens that are currently placed on troops in terms of multiple redeployments. Military families are not left any time to recoup the expenses of family separation. Indeed, one of the many stipends provided for servicemen is familial separation, but like BEQ stipends, we both know that you can’t house a family for what you pull down on BEQ. The difference in cost must be borne by the serviceman and his family.
All of the excuses that you gave blame the serviceman for poor financial management and ignore the fact that Republicans did not fairly compensate the Amnerican serviceman when they placed the additional burdens of ‘war time’ service on them and their dependents without fairly increasing their compensation in turn ! ! !
By getalife
October 24, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this
There is a cheap “Texas Chainsaw Massacre” quality to the whole thing, and it also serves to immediately call to mind the occasions when President Bush dismissed Osama bin Laden as somebody he didn’t think about—except, obviously, when elections were near.
K.O. nails it again.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this
Mensa 2X: LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! Thanks!
By The Cat's In Iraq
October 24, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this
VIENNA, Austria - Iran is expanding its uranium enrichment program even as the U.N. Security Council focuses on possible sanctions for its defiance of a demand to give up the activity and ease fears it seeks nuclear weapons, diplomats said Monday.
While the cat’s in Iraq, the rats will play ! ! !
By Cindy
October 24, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this
Good News! Bush is no longer “staying the course”. (Does that mean cut and run or flip flop?)
New York Times October 24, 2006
Bush, Facing Dissent On Iraq, Jettisons ‘Stay The Course’
By Jim Rutenberg and David S. Cloud
WASHINGTON, Oct. 23 — The White House said Monday that President Bush was no longer using the phrase “stay the course” when speaking about the Iraq war, in a new effort to emphasize flexibility in the face of some of the bloodiest violence there since the 2003 invasion.
“He stopped using it,” said Tony Snow, the White House press secretary.
By Dye Brainless
October 24, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this
Stay the course is gone, forever. Both 43, and 41 used it. If Jeb Bush becomes 44, or 45, then maybe we can resurrect it. Hey, if you subtract 911 from 1776, and then add back 41, plus 43, plus 45, then you get 666!
Nostradomas was right! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!
The truth about Cheney’s involment in getting our army into Iraq at the bequest of foreign owned corporations who have been directing our foreign policy since 1920 (BP Oil), will emerge and when it does, the American People are going to demand accountability and I predict that we will see W and Cheney behind bars for a long long time.
Our long national nightmare is coming to an end, but it will take loyal patriots and good men to stand up and end it. Are you worthy of the liberty you enjoy? Can you wrestle it free, (using the ballot and the courts), and get our country back?
it’s up to all of you. I’m counting on each and every single one of you to do the honorable thing (hari kari) if you are still with the Repudlickan Traitors who are trying to end this country with some sick notion of inducing the end of the world armeggedon christ returns last judgement day girls gone wild video. (hey, how’d THAT get in there?)
Bush is not going to use Stay the course. Instead he’s just going to say that he wont, “cut and run”.
What’s you strategy, W? “Well, it’s not “cut and run”.
What does cut and run mean, W? “Ask the liberals. I cant figure it out either”.
More time buying nonsense from W, who belongs behind bars.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this
Still tryin’ to fool 10:17: Gosh, how many call signs do you have?
para 1: health care applies to entire family. Even single, still a valuable dollar value. Oh, sometimes check the percentage of military who ever enter a combat theater - not minimizing risk of those who do, but it’s not as if entire military force is in combat at the same time.
para 2: sure there are burdens. Operational tempo is much higher now then ten years ago. Why do you think Guard and Reserves are now included? Quarters allowance never intended to recoup full cost of off-post expenses. But how many civilian companies pay employess a “locality adjustment” for high-cost housing areas? Get transferred to CENTCOM in Tampa, live off base, get hundreds of dollars extra, tax-free, for housing.
Much of the blame is poor financial planning by the serviceperson. Many of the lower ranks in this situation are single - military is great for personal responsibility (pic in our wire service story showed rows of repoed pickup trucks, nearly new, in Oceanside CA outside Camp Pendleton). Is it tough? Sure. Always has been, always will be. Some people can always find a way to spend more than they earn. And for those who get into debt to get out of another deployment - well, maybe the military or their career field isn’t the right one for them.
Bottom line - lots of factors at play, but blaming one political party or invoking “everything would be fine if we just increased pay” miss the boat.
By SarahConnah
October 24, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this
The most alarming vision of this new “we never said stay the course” business is that we, as a national populace, are viewed by this criminal cabal as a bunch of 3rd grade retards with our arms and legs attached to strings connected to a couple of sticks.
Well I guess that discription discribes the Bushwacker’s supporter’s well.
Apologies to all retarded third graders.
I fully expect that on November 6th, Bush will announce that he was against this war all along.
It’s all “Bab’s (Barbara Bush) Fault”! After all, who would want to criticize the judgement of an ol haggared leather faced hag in haggard Houston? If SHE had posessed any kind of human kindness or judgement, she would have removed her diseased womb long before it spewed forth the abomination’s that it has.
Curtsie!
By Cindy
October 24, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
I guess it depends on where you live. We did live within the housing allowance and since then it has been raised considerable. We lived comfortable in decent neighborhoods, not in a mansion in the exclusive part of town (but we could have easily if we wanted to add to the allowance). Of course we also had subsistence added to that and way back then we didn’t have to pay a cent for medical care. I believe it is because of these costs that Rummy doesn’t want to increase military numbers.
By Dusty
October 24, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this
Sarah Connah at 10:47,
Get out of the gutter. You disgrace even the Democrats but mostly yourself.
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
SarahConnah,
The fact that the Bush administration has to explain that “stay the course” only meant aggressively fighting terrorists and not stubbornly sticking with one Iraq option even as conditions change, means that they ARE trying to talk to the equivalent of third graders. I won’t dignify your slur against the mentally handicapped.
By King George's Low Standards
October 24, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
Paul, you make it sound as if King George has reduced troop standards to the point that we now have an army full of soldiers who can’t even manage a checkbook. While the Chimperor has indeed lowered standards, as well as raised age restrictions, I still see quality recruits, ready and willing to take on the most imporetant job in the world, providing for the safety and welfare of all Americans, everywhere.
Like most Republicans you think that the most important job in America should be paid like any other McJob. Sorry to disillusion you but private corps often pay for the travel and living expense burdens that they impose on their workers. None the less, trying to compare military service to private corporate compensation is comparing apples and oranges. Maytag repairmen don’t get their brains blown out and your country occupied by foreign troops if THEY do a lousy job because they aren’t paid well. Mickey D’s workers can QUIT their job if they feel they are being USED, the American soldier can NOT ! ! !
By getalife
October 24, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this
Paul,
Stop bashing the troops blowhard.
Sarah,
Nice post. Got the neonuts howling like true moonbats.
Of course, they will now go to Murtha’s plan that should have been implemented months ago when he proposed his plan. They had to spew the cowards cut and run bs.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
King George 11:15: trying to reason with a hyperpartisan…
Services set their own recruiting standards, not the Office of the Sec of Def or the Oval Office.
Again, you imply party affiliation by arguments made. In that same old “defend military, must be Repub, point out flaws, must be Demo” mindset.
Point of compensation discussion was not to compare military pay to civilian pay, but to illustrate difference between direct pay and value of compensation. If you still don’t understand I’ll try a few more examples. You carry on about inadequate pay, then say pay can’t be compared?!!?
Last point - soldiers can leave, anytime - officers after initial commitment or commitments due to training, etc, are up, enlisted after their enlistment (however many years they signed up for) is up. Oh, and in-theater reenlistments (that’s for enlisteds) is very, very high. Seems another case of someone on the outside telling someone on the inside how much they’re being abused.
By Political Foreskin
October 24, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this
I'm here to change peoples' minds on the climate crisis and to support Prop 87,'' Gore called to a group of reporters after he emerged from the100 miles per gallon” Toyota Prius that brought him to a noontime rally in a sun-drenched park behind Berkeley’s City Hall. His motorcade also included three motorcycles, two limousines and a Dodge Ram 1500 light duty truck.
By Peter
October 24, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this
Here’s a combination of Republican sound bites that seem to come together naturally (mindful that troops were forecast to be in Iraq until 2010).
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS !
FOUR MORE YEARS !
With the situation in Iraq getting worser, we should have withdrawn when it was only worse.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this
Getalife: bashing the troops? How do you get that? The multi-name poster alleged military personnel are in dire financial straits because of the President and Iraq (typical targets of hyperpartisans). I pointed out it’s a small number, there are extenuating circumstances, and mil pay is generally of a higher value than many recognize.
“Bash the troops” is used a bit too flippantly, especially when the discussion is on foreign policy. For example, to say the F-22 fighter is a product of the Cold War and people say “stop bashing.” Say military weapons systems costs are grossly underestimated and inflate over their life cycle and people say “stop bashing the troops.” Say our ground pounders went to war with inadequate body armor or an urban combat vehicle because of the system Rumsfeld was trying to change and people yell “stop bashing the troops it’s Rumsfeld’s fault!”
Doesn’t make for the best discussion, does it?
By SarahConnah
October 24, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this
I see that Bushwacker has purchased 100,000 acre’s of (retirement?) real estate in Paraguay!
What?! No extradition law’s in Paraguay?!
Curtsie!
By Political Foreskin
October 24, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this
In the meantime, let’s give the Iraqi government a chance. Two years ago they had no forces of their own. Now they have 300,000 troops. Those are real numbers, and they are taking real casualties — now many more than we are. They need our help, and are proving worthy of it. And the benefit of having a democratic ally in the heart of the Middle East will prove priceless long into the future — which is why al Qaeda has made this the central front in the War on Terror.
By roooth
October 24, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this
You may want to rethink your arguement. It may be possible that there was once a higher than average intelligence level in Bush’s now addled head, but, face it, decades of drug and alcohol abuse have taken their toll.
What further exacerbates the drug and alcohol induced deterioration of what may have once been a fair intelligence in Bush’s case are the following factors:
He doesn’t HAVE to think, he doesn’t have to use his any critical thinking skills. He is surrounded by acolytes who only confirm for him that what he ‘feels’ is right actually is right. For a man surrounded by access to so much information, he is unusual in that he doesn’t actually have to access any of it himself in order to survive and he is even more unusual for having attained his position with no inclination to take it upon himself to become informed. He has said that he wants others to take in the information he is presented, distill it for him and tell him what he needs to know. Since he is infamous for getting nasty when given information that is contrary to his beliefs, and he is equally infamous for intimidating subordinates, he ends up being fed only what he wants, further reducing his need to think new thoughts. This is the intellectual equivelant of a baby bird surviving by feeding on the regurgitated bits other’s have selected, chewed up and fed to it. Bush not only never learned to chew thoughts for himself, he prefers being fed this way, and life has conspired to make it a continuing reality. He is a 60 yr. old who cannot and will not make the effort to chew on new information by himself, other than to re-enforce his already set beliefs.
Unfortunately, that’s not good for brain development. The latest in brain research has shown that the brain will rethink the same thoughts, (like a computer ‘looping’), when not actively engaged in processing new information. Each repetition of a thought strengthens neural connections for that thought which further re-enforces the continued rethinking of the same thought, leading to an enhanced feeling of certainty regarding the repeated thought.
Bush’s feelings of certainty aren’t a reflection of mental discipline or critical thinking. Quite the opposite; it is certainty without substance.
And this brings me to his infamous lack of intellectual drive or curiosity. If Bush had had to actually work for his profession
By Midori
October 24, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this
{{{{Last point - soldiers can leave, anytime - officers after initial commitment or commitments due to training, etc, are up, enlisted after their enlistment (however many years they signed up for) is up. Oh, and in-theater reenlistments (that’s for enlisteds) is very, very high. Seems another case of someone on the outside telling someone on the inside how much they’re being abused.}}}}
sounds to me someone hasn’t heard about “stop loss”
why don’t we wait until tomorrow and hear what those on the inside have to say, eh?
By Republican's Still Tryin to 'Fool ALL of the People ALL of the Time'
October 24, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this
Paul, now I know that you are still tryin to ‘Fool ALL of the People ALL of the Time’. Servicemen most certainly can NOT leave service any time they please. They can not even leave after the tour of duty they have signed up for is complete unless they have permission to do so. Ever heard of extended duty? Theoretically the serviceman’s tour of duty can be extended beyond the lifetime of their great-great-granchildren if such is deemed to be neccesary ! ! !
By getalife
October 24, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this
Again Paul,
Stop bashing the troops and spend some time in Iraq on the streets of Baghdad to see if they are paid accordingly.
By bon scott
October 24, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this
Here’s your “stay the course”… keep squandering huge amounts of money and thousands of irreplacable lives for a mission that was misguided from the start.
In the run-up to the Iraq war, Donald Rumsfeld estimated that the overall cost would be under $50 billion. Paul Wolfowitz argued that Iraq could use its oil to “finance its own reconstruction.” They made it sound like a video game.
Forget Michael Jackson. This was the REAL Neverland. The White House and the PNAC believed this fairy tale. They fooled America.
But now several careful studies have attempted to tote up various costs, and they suggest that the tab will be more than $1 trillion — perhaps more than $2 trillion.)
Not only have we squandered 2,800 American lives and considerable American prestige in Iraq, but we’re also paying $18,000 per household to do so. We still face the choice of whether to remain in Iraq indefinitely or to impose a timetable and withdraw U.S. troops. These studies suggest that every additional year we keep our troops in Iraq will add $200 billion to our tax bills.
We are spending vast sums in Iraq that would be better spent rescuing the American health care system, developing alternative forms of energy and making a serious effort to reduce global poverty.
Oh… and fighting the REAL terrorists where they are REALLY hiding.
Incompetence should never be rewarded. Vote every Bush Republican out on November 7.
PS - I want to express my gratitude to all the Bush supporters who spend time posting here. That’s time NOT spent working for your idiot President and his moranic candidates.
By Peter
October 24, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this
Paul (11:30) “Last point - soldiers can leave, anytime - officers after initial commitment or commitments due to training, etc, are up, enlisted after their enlistment (however many years they signed up for) is up. Oh, and in-theater reenlistments (that’s for enlisteds) is very, very high. Seems another case of someone on the outside telling someone on the inside how much they’re being abused.”
You are so wrong.
Officers AND soldiers are being recalled under an emergency executive order signed three days after 9/11/2001.
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this
By-Sybil bon finchie freak mental patient:PS - I want to express my gratitude to all the Bush supporters who spend time posting here. That’s time NOT spent working for your idiot President and his moranic candidates.
PSS-finchie, There’s a reason that kind of censorship trick is called child psychology. It’s because that sort of thing only works with children and Democrats.
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
It’s all “Bab’s (Barbara Bush) Fault”! BLAH BLAH BLAH…If SHE had posessed any kind of human kindness or judgement, she would have removed her diseased womb long before it spewed forth the abomination’s that it has.
This ^^^ is what Getalife calls a “nice post” at 11:26.
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this
Maybe Crazy Howie SHOULD have the gladdaa…gladian….gladitorial comte…coontb…..contest…err combat Of course we all know he’s really just scared of being asked a tough question by Ken that he would never get from the antique media.
By Midori
October 24, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this
Getalife, SarahC,
that IS a very good post.
Talking about “withdrawing” - sure wish Poppy had done that some 60 years ago.
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this
Anybody else want to sign for the Midori/getalife/SarahConnah genocide team?
This is hysterical It seems that the DNC didn’t bother to get any kind of verification of their pledges in a recent fund drive.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this
Midori 12:02 - good point about Stop Loss (not allowing personnel in to leave after their enlistment or eligibility). But, a critical point is that Stop Loss applies to certain specialities that the services need, such as Explosives Ordinance Disposal personnel. It does not apply across the board. Stop Loss was also used in peacetime as the situation required.
Republican New Long Name 12:05: see what happens when you get your info from far-Left websites? I clearly said after enlistment was up for enlisteds, at appropriate time after initial commitment for officers. Even gave a few examples. Yes, I’ve heard of “extended duty” and it’s not what you’re referring to. I belive, from what I can decipher, you’re speaking of the Individual Ready Reserve or some variation. Just means those who leave (specifically retirees) can be recalled. It’s been that way for years and years, Republican Long Name, so it’s not something new that’s the “fault” of Pres Bush or the Iraq War.
getalife: just shows the difference in mindset between military and civilians. Most military I know roll their eyes at the pay arguments. Or, as one pilot friend of mine said, “Hey, if they want to give it to me I won’t turn it down.”
Peter at 12:21: no, I’m not wrong. Military personnel can leave after (oh for Pete’s sakes, read above). That was the topic of the earlier discussion, not recall to active duty provisions upon discharge. Koolaid, anyone?
Amazing there’s such antipathy for Pres Bush that people will use the “distress” of service people to attack him.
By bon scott
October 24, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this
RW - freak mental patient????
You’re SO mature. Real adults don’t act like…. children.
I’m not censoring anyone. I’m just posting facts while applauding your constant presence here.
Carry on.
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this
Ah yes! And now Midori agrees. How sweet.
Does anyone see the irony that Getalife likes to call ME a “fascist” and a “Nazi”?
I sure as hell do.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this
G’morning RW (the original). Good advice last week. Specific enough?
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this
Thanks bonnie.
You’re the one that said Reagan kicked you out of the sanitarium though.
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this
RW,
That is priceless! What is even funnier is the OUTRAGE and Huff Puffing.
By Peter
October 24, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this
Paul - A veteran I met last Thursday would benefit from your legal opinion. (“Nelson” in the film “Black Hawk Down” is a composite of him and others.) He has orders to return to duty because of his training in asymetrical warfare. Why do you think he would fabricate orders? (Could you be mistaken?)
By Paul
October 24, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this
I saw that in last night’s debate for Senate in Connecticut that Lieberman was heckled from the audience.
Can anyone out there explain why it’s the Far Left that seeks to suppress free expression of ideas??? If you disagree (uh, that’s a question, so wait for an answer to disagree) can you provide examples of Far Right activists who constantly heckle Far Left personalities?
By Midori
October 24, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this
I specifically think we/the world would have benefitted if several fathers “withdrew”.
hint, hint
and yes, Danish - I do agree that you’re a facist nazi.
By getalife
October 24, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this
Check out my Halloween costume
Mark Foley.
By bon scott
October 24, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this
By RW-(the original) - October 24, 2006 01:11 PM - Thanks bonnie. You’re the one that said Reagan kicked you out of the sanitarium though.
What? Stay away from Andy’s stash. You’re hallucinating.
By N-GA
October 24, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this
Paul,
You did say “after their enlistment is up”, but you should not have said “anytime”. They can indicate that they intend to leave PRIOR to the end of their enlistment. Or they can re-enlist. Once thay re-enlist, they are committed (unless they apply for a hardship discharge, etc…).
As far as military pay, the government has taken it out of one pocket and put it in another. There was once a benefit called the GI Bill that was funded entirely by the military. Over time, pay and allowances rose, but the GI Bill then required GI’s to pay into an account that received matching government funds. Also, base commissaries and PX’s (post exchange) used to have very good prices until political pressure required them to turn a profit. No more subsidy equaled higher costs that ate into the pay increases. Also, cradle-to-grave health benefits for military retiree have been eroded over time. Now retirees have programs like CHAMPUS and TRI-CARE that work somewhat like traditional healthcare programs.
I don’t blame Bush, Republicans, or Democrats for any of this. Veterans have definitely been the victims of many “broken promises” by all politicians.
That being said, I blame this administration for putting politics ahead of our soldiers. Simply put, there are insufficient troops to meet the demands of battle, so our government has extended tours of duty in Iraq, extended the enlistments of troops who have decided not to re-enlist, recalled inactive reservists, and reduced the requirements (standards) for enlistees to meet recruiting quoatas. But the most egregious act of this administration is to refuse to re-institute the draft because it would be politically disastrous. Instead, our troops are required to re-deploy to the middle east for 2, 3, or even 4 combat tours.
These are facts…not opinions. Your thoughts?
By Midori
October 24, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this
Paul,
try wearing an anti war tshirt to a Bush tax payer funded event.
i don’t think it will be people on the left trying to “suppress free expression of ideas”
you’re not as naive as you try to appear - I can recall several such instances of right wing whackos heckling leftists. Google is your friend.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this
Peter - that was my point, precisely. My “legal opinion” is that ex-military personnel can be recalled subject to the requirements of the day. His MOS “asymetrical warfare” makes him a prime candidate. Not too many supply officers or Morale Welfare types being reactivated. Opinion - he should go. It’s was explained to him when he entered active duty and when he was discharged/retired.
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this
Sybil Bon Finchie,
Re your 12:13 -
Thank YOU for helping prove my thesis that Leftwing opposition to the Iraq War has NOTHING to do with concern for our soldiers and EVERYTHING to do with dreams of worthless Socialist Utopian programs not being realized.
By N-GA
October 24, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this
Paul, r.e. your 1:17, I suspect that your definition of “suppress free expression of ideas” and other peoples’ definition may differ. Hecklers may very well be expressing their ideas. However, some examples of far right activists who constantly heckle far left personalities: Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Hannity, etc. They all have a STFU attitude that is very apparent in interviews, etc. O’Reilly even cuts people off in mid-sentence when they disagree with him.
I suspect you are one of those extremists you talk about, only you are trying to come off as moderate.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this
N-GA - thank you for a well-reasoned post. Valid points. Only way I see for ex-soldiers to not get bitter “broken promises” is to recognize every “promise” is made by a politician.
Re your last (main) paragraph. Lots of topics there. I’m amused by all the after-the-fact Rumsfeld-Bush-etc criticism over “didn’t plan for the occupation/after cessation of hostilities. Can these carpies point to anyone who did? (Hint: read some of the journals produced by the Army or Air Force War Colleges). We could also do with a realignment of funding between the services and away from the big-ticket weapons systems to more mundane things, such as items used every day by grunts. But that’s way too much to hope for.
One last thought - repeat from before - couple years ago Rumsfeld directed troop levels reduced in S Korea and Germany (permanent billets there, tougher to use the people elsewhere). Who criticized the moves? Yup - Kerry. Politics above Practicality, again.
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this
Paul,
It is for me and the information you’re providing is much more clear. One thing that won’t ever change is that the people you are explaining this to wouldn’t understand it no matter how you present it, unless you say “Bush sucks” at the opening and closing of your argument. They’ll give your comments a big non-denominational amen then.
Sybil,
I think I misspoke. Since Reagan kicked you out onto the streets and took away your ability to get care, I guess that would make you a mental case rather than a mental patient. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Why do you suppose Billy Jeff didn’t reverse that evil course of action Reagan took and put you back in the home?
Another poster here has some information you may be interested in. It seems your doctor lied to you about who was responsible for your eviction.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this
Midori 1:25: please let me clarify: I was not referring to the general populace (that happens on both sides, regularly) but to political figures, such as those running for office, or leaders of large organizations invited to espouse their views, such as the Minutemen at Columbia University.
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this
Paul,
In reference to your 1:17, the right wants the loopy left to speak, we only wish the press wouldn’t bury their remarks. The opposite holds that the left can’t afford to let people hear the thoughts of the right because they usually make too much sense.
Of course I’m just a moderate like the scribbler.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this
N-GA at 1:31: again, I was asking, not referring to groups of the general populace, not to radio/television people with their own shows, but to politicians or members of groups, giving presentations in public, at public events or events to which they’ve been invited.
I agree with your assessment of Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter (Howard Dean in drag). O’Reilly, though - only when people duck the question or are so outrageous (Bush orchestrated the murder of 3,0000 Americans) as to be worthy of disdain.
Moderate or extreme? Depends upon the issue.
By Peter
October 24, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this
Paul -
So, when they sign up (before 9/11, before training in asymetrical warfare, before we invade Iraq) they know the 4 year (whatever) commitment is really life long?
You’re dreaming … .
My advice to him was to get a plane ticket outa here.
(I did my 4 years active duty 1969-1973 and wouldn’t go back.)
By Paul
October 24, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this
Peter 1:43 I do know stipulation applies to retirees. Do not know of stipulations for those who do less than 20 years. But it’s generally been true that buried somewhere in the discharge is a phrase to the effect “we need you we’ll come and get you.”
Not going to comment on your advice to your friend. Just wouldn’t want to be the one they decide to make an example of.
By Midori
October 24, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this
Hoping to find a political solution, the Bush administration has asked the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to issue an unconditional amnesty to Sunni Muslim insurgents, prominent Kurdish lawmaker Mahmoud Othman told the Associated Press. He is a confidante of Jalal Talabani, the country’s president.
I can’t wait for the wingnut praise/justifications.
oh wait.
Yes I can.
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this
Are the Democrats snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? Maybe Nancy Pelosi shouldn’t have made that crack about taking any suite she wanted now that the Dems had won*.
.
*paraphrased and slightly edited
By getalife
October 24, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this
Midori,
Yep, the troops are sitting ducks over there and the Iraqis know they can kill them and get amnesty.
What kind of pos would put our troops in this postion?
By Voice of Reason
October 24, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this
Upon enlisting in the military, the typical arrangement is an 8-year obligation. 4 years active duty, 4 years inactive reserve. During that last 4 years you can be called back. After the 8-year obligation, you can’t be called back. You can be ASKED, but you have no legal obligation. Retirees are different, but in the off chance they are called back, it’s in a support role, not in theater.
By SarahConnah
October 24, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this
President Boddlehead DID NOT…I repeat DID NOT orchestrate the murder of 3,000 people on 9/11! He simply issued a signing statement on the plan.
“Stay the course!”
Curtsie!
By Sybil's Shrink
October 24, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this
Dear Sybil Bon Finchie,
Years ago I lied to you and blamed your eviction on Reagan. The truth has been gnawing at me all these years.
One of the fallacies liberals like to foster about Reagan is that our homeless mentally ill population is his fault. One Bay Area news report Saturday night presented this charge as fact during a story about Reagan’s death and legacy.
In 1963, Kennedy signed legislation that created a national movement aimed at closing mental-health institutions and moving patients to community-care facilities and general hospitals with psychiatric wards. A few years later, Congress created a new program that provided funds for community-based nonprofit organizations to provide services to the nation’s mentally ill population. Reagan was governor as these changes were being implemented at the state level. Later, when Reagan was president, he opposed continuing federal government-run mental-health programs. Instead, during his two terms as president, he signed several pieces of legislation that created block grants, giving the states more flexibility in how they spent federal dollars meant to help the mentally ill, and developed rules for the protection and advocacy of population.
Reagan also signed legislation creating the Stuart B. McKinney Homeless Assistance Act to help states provide housing to homeless mentally ill people. For him, a former governor, federalism — limiting the federal government’s authority in favor of state’s rights — was a major priority during his presidency. He aimed to give the states the flexibility they needed to tailor state programs to fit the needs of their mentally ill.
Sincerely begging your forgiveness,
Shrinkie
By N-GA
October 24, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this
Paul,
I have never been a political “activist” until this administration…this group of neo-cons who want to change America into Amerika. To have a national party run on a “family values” ticket saying that the other national party is, essentially, morally bankrupt only to have that holier than thou administration:
bring corruption of public officials to a new level
declare war without being attacked (Iraq)
try to impose religious values on a secular United States (creationism, freedom of choice, marriage, etc.)
interfere in personal issues at the government (state & federal) level (Schiavo)
put corporate America ahead of Americans
sacrifice the economic future of America (spending, taxes, balance of trade, energy)
To hear these people criticize Bill Clinton for his “indiscretion” when you can barely count the marriages of Gingrich, Limbaugh and O’Reilly on two hands is absolute hypocrisy. And when someone close to the administration “comes clean” like Paul O’Neill, Richard Clarke, David Kuo etal, they are immediately attacked by the administration even though they may have been thoroughly vetted for their government post.
I am an independent and a veteran (69-75)…I view the actions of this administration as indefensible.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this
Voice of Reason 2:05: thanks for the clarification.
By We're Gonna Raise Millions of 'Guest Workers' to Take Your Jobs Away
October 24, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this
President Bush asked Congress in a State of the Union address to “reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy. I propose a new temporary-worker program to match willing foreign workers with willing employers.
You really don’t have to worry much about higher taxes after the Republicans give your job to a cheaper ‘guest worker’ do you ? ? ? Take a work vacation for the next couple of years and save on paying ANY taxes at all, Vote Republican ! ! !
By Midori
October 24, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this
LOL, Sarah,
you’re just chock full of good ones today :)
By Huge
October 24, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this
“Are the Democrats snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?”
RW,
God knows after the past two general elections, if anybody could it would be the current democratic party.
But this time I don’t even think their miserable track record is going to stop the gop train wreck next month…
Today marks the 79th consecutive day of getting a mailout from Jill Chambers. (Can anyone tell that she used to be the head of the GA. gop?)
I exchanged a couple of e-mails with her last week. I told her that it’s unfortunate these political races are now mud-slinging sleaze-fests, or something to that effect.
She said that her opponent belonged to an organization called drinking liberally and I replied, “Now, that’s a group I could drink to!”
To my surprise she responded back that drinking liberally probably was more fun than drinking conservatively!
She slightly restored my faith in the gop - a republican who actually has a sense of humor…
By Voice of Reason
October 24, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this
No problem Paul. And I have some advice for the friend whose background is asymetrical warfare. Don’t go back. If you do, call Blackwater or like agencies. Might as well just on the bandwagon and make $1108 a day instead of the peanuts Uncle Sam dishes out.
By King George the Bi-Partisan
October 24, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this
Mr. Baker, who warns there is no magic bullet for the US in Iraq, indicates the group will seek answers that lie somewhere between the easy clichés of “stay the course” and “cut and run.” The Pentagon already seems to be moving toward one idea of somehow forcing changes in the Iraqi government. On Friday, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said the US wants a “set of projections” from the Iraqi government for it to take more responsibility. “They’re going to have to do it sooner rather than later,” he said. One sign of results from US pressure: This week, the Iraqi prime minister fired two commanders of special police commandos on suspicion of those units being infiltrated by Shiite militias.
The Baker group’s recommendations would give a postelection excuse for Democrats and the GOP to find common ground for a “Plan B.” But for now, it’s voters who seem to want Republicans and Democrats in the next Congress to cross the aisle and try something different in Iraq.
Maybe King George will surprise everybody and be ready and willing to work in a bi-partisan manner to actually GOVERN effectively for a change ! ! ! (I wouldn’t hold my breathe, though)
By N-GA
October 24, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this
Paul,
While we debate issues, the clock keeps ticking:
“Lance Cpl. Clifford R. Collinsworth, 20, of Chelsea, Mich.”
“Lance Cpl. Nathan R. Elrod, 20, of Salisbury, N.C.”
“Lance Cpl. Nicholas J. Manoukian, 22, of Lathrup Village, Mich.”
“Cpl. Joshua C. Watkins, 25, of Jacksonville, Fla.”
“These Marines died Oct. 21 while conducting combat operations in Al Anbar province, Iraq.”
This announcement was posted on the DOD website. Each of these marines was a father, son, brother, and/or friend. I did not know any of them. But they are no different from the friends I lost in Viet Nam…for much the same reason which is no real reason. Whether they were gun-ho marines who believed they were defending American freedom, or whether they were there only because their country asked them to be there, it matters not. They are gone and are not coming back. And it is our responsibility to ask WHY? And for anyone to say we have to stay there because if we leave then all of them would have died for nothing….I say STFU…you have no idea what you are saying. More death does not bring meaning to their sacrifice.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
N-GA - interesting views. I can see where “family values” people felt threatened by the far Left and felt no place in the Democratic Party. I can see them going for a chance to be heard and be influenced. I think recent events have shown many in the administration were less than supportive of their goals. Rule 1 in politics: get ready to be used.
Corruption of public officials to a new level: dunno, maybe it’s just easier to expose and publicize it now.
Impose religions values on secular: the pendulums swings. One extreme: no recognition or mention of sprirituality in public life. Other extreme - well, you’ve mentioned it. Someday we’ll lurch towards the center.
Declare war without being attacked: well, a case can be made for preemption (general sense, not Iraq). I think real goal was to establish representative gov’t to counter threat of jihadists and have it serve as a model. Also to propel reforms in monarchies. Couldn’t sell on face - and - both Dems and Repubs saw WMD as a threat, so that became the selling point. Oops.
Interfere in personal issues. Yup - and it was the Court appointees identified as liberal who went for eminent domain. Round and round we go.
Economic future: straying from economic principles is costing the GOP dearly among its base. Re: energy - both parties and all administrations back to Carter are guilty. Detroit = jobs = votes. Ain’t nobody gonna tell me whut I can drive (almost sorry for the apellation - substitute high brow - those Hummers don’t come cheap). Or how big a house I can build.
Lewinsky? The Dems learned. Plame? Special Prosecutor! Foley? Bush’s fault. I don’t think we’ll ever get off the “moral” issues - they’re too good for theater (all you others, pls forget equating “BJ by intern” with “exposing a brave and valiant undercover operative whose identity comprises all past, present and future intelligence operations throughout the known universe”).
By Honor Ain't Political
October 24, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this
VOR- Tell the friend that he should do his duty. It’s the deal he made and honorable men keep their word and protect our country, even when our country takes them for granted and pays them CHEAP ! ! !
By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!
October 24, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this
By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!
October 24, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this
By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!
October 24, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this
Ooops^^:
By N-GA STFU Nice October 24, 2006 02:42 PM And for anyone to say we have to stay there because if we leave then all of them would have died for nothing….I say STFU…you have no idea what you are saying. More death does not bring meaning to their sacrifice.
How many more dead do you need added to THIS list before you want to defend our innocent women and children?
SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 VICTIMS This site is dedicated to the victims of September 11, 2001 tragedy.
First of all, you can go F yourself, N-GA sissy bit-ch, come in here telling people to shut the F up, you are a filthy piece of sh-it.
Secondly, what do you wasted liberal degenerates think the army is for? A place to fill with homosexuals? Some social experiment?
They’ve done what they’re supposed to do, protecting our innocents and our freedom. You want them safe and the children in harm’s way, muther f.
By @@
October 24, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this
It’s that scientific principle. For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction. It can be applied to 40 years of liberalism culminating in a response from the silent majority of traditional values.
And an “independent” voter wants to stand alone and tell the “silent-no-more” response to liberalism to STFU.
I guess it’s that extremism he accuses Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Hannity, etc. of being.
And he calls Paul an extremist trying to pass as a moderate. I haven’t seen Paul tell anyone to STFU.
I say that “independent” of bias, cause I have yet to figure out how Paul votes, nor will I demand to know. He offers a lot of worthwhile discussion from which a person can learn, if they’re willing.
By Voice of Reason
October 24, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this
Honorain’tPolitical - Or do you mean senseain’tcommon? He did his duty. If I’m not mistaken, he is not active duty anymore. Do you really expected people to be taken for granted for cheap when they have options? Country or not, if you must go, get paid to do it. Ask any special forces person who got out at the end of their contract and went to blackwater.
By getalife
October 24, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this
Damn, Andy lost it here and Dusty lost it in Wooten’s blog.
Too funny.
Bwhahahahaha!
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this
Oh how they whine— the 3 or 4 Neo-con trolls who post here daily have obviously been polled:
Just 19% of those surveyed say the United States is winning in Iraq, an all-time low. And 38% say their own member of Congress doesn’t deserve re-election, an all-time high
By bon scott
October 24, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this
By RW on acid - October 24, 2006 02:17 PM - Years ago, I lied to you and blamed your eviction on Reagan. The truth has been gnawing at me all these years.
You are truly off the deep end. What does Reagan, mental health care and SF in the 1980s have to do with the bloody mess in Iraq? And why are you relentlessly repeating this non-sequitur?
I get it!! It’s your way of denying obvious truths! Not very effective, BTW.
By Bye Danish - October 24, 2006 01:28 PM - Re your 12:13 - Thank YOU for helping prove my thesis that Leftwing opposition to the Iraq War has NOTHING to do with concern for our soldiers and EVERYTHING to do with dreams of worthless Socialist Utopian programs not being realized.
Nipping from Andy’s bottle, too? It’s laced with LSD, right? You and RW share it? What are you talking about? Iraq’s in a civil war. Americans who aren’t caught in the middle are being used as target practice. It’s costing a fortune. REAL terrorists are free to plot. And you want to “stay the course”?
Every morning the streets of Baghdad are littered with dozens of bodies, bruised, torn, mutilated, executed only because they are Sunni or because they are Shiite. Power drills are an especially popular torture device.
You’re the traitor. I’m praying for you.
By nuff-said
October 24, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this
Conservatives have failed America. They are drowning in a flood of corruption, greed and pedophilia.
By Peter
October 24, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this
SUPPORT THE TROOPS !
FOUR MORE YEARS !
By N-GA
October 24, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this
Hey Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter) aka RW (the Real Wanker),
Not surprised to see your psychotic post. Trying to equate 9/11 to Iraq…you’re as dumb as the head chimp. What a pseudo-American you are…a fascist in neo-nazi clothing. And you @@, I’m amused that you jump on me for my remarks to Paul yet he does not. We just continued the discussion without your input at all…leave it alone..you relish every American death in Iraq. You tremble at the excitement of it all. It must suck to be you. Not to worry, there is a special place for you to spend eternity…say hello to Saddam when you see him.
By getalife
October 24, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this
bon,
These freaks are tripping.
There is Peter, Paul and I guess Andy would be Mary.
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this
“For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction. It can be applied to 40 years of liberalism culminating in a response from the silent majority of traditional values”
@@— specifically what “traditional” values are you bemoaning about? Is it the same ones touted by the Neo-cons, like promoting war, torture and the unraveling of the U.S. Constitution? Or are you just talking about the value of keeping homos in the closet?
The Repugnant Party’s values are apparently what about 70% of America wants nothing more to do with these days… so much for your “traditional” values.
By Midori
October 24, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this
{{{{Foley? Bush’s fault.}}}}
when has anyone said that Foley was “Bush’s fault”?
Buehler?
By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!
October 24, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this
By getalife October 24, 2006 03:44 PM bon, These freaks are tripping
Only in the land of the moonbat would anything posted by getalife, N-GA sissy bit-ch or finch and his vast experience with intoxicants be called normal.
Oh, wait, it’s the 3 lunatics that are ones calling themselves normal, never mind.
Not to worry, there is a special place for you to spend eternity…say hello to Saddam when you see him.
Jeez, just melt down why don’t you?
Nipping from Andy’s bottle, too? It’s laced with LSD, right? You and RW share it?
Psycho anyone?
Rove driving you crazy?
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this
Sybil,
Who do you think is videotaping the sniper death of our soldiers for CNN and saying “allah akbar” after they kill them?
Those civil warring Sunnis and Shia, or Al Qaeda type TERRORISTS who are trying to influence our election?
P.S.
KOSOVO WAS A CIVIL WAR.
By Truthman
October 24, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this
Tee, hee, hee!!
14 days folks! Just 14 days!!
By @@
October 24, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this
I saw my @@ mentioned. Noooooo. It doesn’t suck to be me. It probably sucked to be Allaina though the afternoon you attacked her brother’s commitment, sacrifice and intelligence.
You assumed she was a young teenager. I got the impression she was a young woman, but then I’m not as presumptuous as you.
I find it odd how you always bring the names of the fallen to a public forum without their consent. Very presumptuous of you.
Did you know that there is a mother of a fallen marine who is suing an anti-war activist (opportunist) for discrediting her son’s service by using his name on anti-war t-shirts. I hope she wins.
Need I remind you that you can speak only for yourself, not all military personnel.
By Truthman
October 24, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this
Iraq is also in the midst of Civil War.
Even laura and Barney, Bush’s poor dog, knows that!!
By N-GA
October 24, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this
Well @@,
Those names of fallen soldiers are posted by the US Government Department of Defense on a website accessible by anyone in the world with access to the Internet. And there is no law (yet) that makes it a crime to copy them. I used quotation marks and cited the source…and I did not criticize them.
r.e. Allaina: I assume she is a teenager. You assume she is a young woman (whatever that means). Who cares which she is. What I said still is true. If she chooses to post her opinions here, she should be ready for criticism. Unless (I repeat in case you forgot) you think she should grow up as a sheltered wimp and not be exposed to criticism.
By getalife
October 24, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
Andy,
What is your drug to keep you in la,la land to not see reality?
By N-GA
October 24, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this
@@,
Sorry…I re-read your post and wanted to add a comment.
You posted: “You assumed she was a young teenager. I got the impression she was a young woman, but then I’m not as presumptuous as you.” Are you stuck on stupid? You call me presumptuous? I make one assumption and you make another, but I am the one who is PRESUMPTUOUS? Both of your parents passed the Hypocrite gene on to you.
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
{{In November I asked a close Shiite friend if — considering all this violence, crime and radicalism in Iraq — life had not been better under Hussein.
“No,” he said definitively. “They could level all of Baghdad and it would still be better than Saddam. At least we have hope.”))
Sanctimonious Sybil,
This is from your WaPo story. Was I a “traitor” in need of your “prayers” last November? Don’t forget - Saddam was pretty good at using “power tools” too.
By Truthman
October 24, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this
“Stuck on Stupid” is a trademarked and copyrighted phrase belonging to Lt. Gen. Russel L. Honore, commanding general of First Army at Fort Gillem in Forest Park.
Please desist from its use or you will be “Stuck on stupid!”
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this
“Al Qaeda type TERRORISTS who are trying to influence our election”
BA-WAAAAAA— That’s just hilarious! Those Neo-Con talking points are so effective, yes? Like “we’re fighting them over there”, “freedom is on the march”, “we’ll be greeted as liberators”, and the ever-popular “they’re increasing the violence to influence our election” — oh I’ve got to wipe my eyes, I’m laughing so hard!
By @@
October 24, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this
Goldie: When have we promoted war? Radical extremists within the Middle East promoted war on 9/11. Bin Laden may have been in Afghanistan, but his followers are all throughout the Middle East and elsewhere trying to establish their caliphate. Even in Iraq.
Torture? Puuuhleeeze. The enemy tortures for gratification. We make them uncomfortable for much needed information.
Unravel the constitution? Did Robert Kennedy (Democrat) unravel that same constitution when the stakes weren’t so high. Wiretapping Martin Luther King because they thought he was a terroristic threat within America. Now that was an overreaction. Bush is wiretapping in the interest of national security. I’ll tell you what Goldie….let us know when your call to your hairdresser is monitored. Then we’ll know if you truly are a dumb blonde, or if you’re just faking it.
Gays can celebrate their civil unions which the majority of Americans (even Christians) have no problem with. They’d do well to accept compromise. They’ve gotten plenty from the right.
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this
Getlife,
What kind of drugs are you on that causes you to read a post from someone who speaks of ripping a baby (an “abomination”) out of its mothers womb and then respond that it was a “nice post”.
I hope that drugs are the explanation, because if this is you straight and sober, you are one nasty MoFo.
By Producer
October 24, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this
Voice,
Regarding Blackwater and the $1100 a day for their contractors, I know that right after Iraq war began the contractors were making close to that but I’ve heard the pay has dropped significantly with Blackwater charging the gov’t around $1500 and paying their guys around $600 a day. Still a good chunk of change but not like it was. Do you know of any current folks making that $1100 amount and what jobs are they doing that bring that price. Just curious here.
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this
Goldilocks,
Are you such a dumb blonde that you don’t realize that they are feeding these snuff videos to CNN for a reason?
If the Democrats get back the majority funding for the war will be cut off, we will be forced to retreat, and guess who gets to establish his Caliphate in Iraq?
The answer is not George W. Bush.
@@,
It’s not only her hairdresser who knows for sure.
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this
Paul,
In the last paragraph you seem to be saying a) that people are equating (or are going to compare) Billy Jeff’s bj with “outing” Valerie Plame and b) that she was a brave and valient undercover agent.
Can you back up either of those statements or did you mean something else? The only possible link is that there was a special prosecutor, which clearly is no link at all and it’s also pretty clear that Plame had been a desk jockey for a long time and apparently not a very good one either since WMD was her purview.
The special prosecutor in Clinton’s case only uncovered the intern situation in the course of an ongoing investigation that we constantly hear found no wrong doing, but 15 people went to prison. In the Plame situation the Special Prosecutor indicted one person that hasn’t been tried yet and threw one reporter in jail. He also made no charge that the underlying crime he was investigating was ever committed. So if you’re trying to say the investigation was a larger issue with Plame I would strongly disagree based simply on the overall scope of what came out of the two.
By Midori
October 24, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
I had to put a new starter in my car.
I guess those terraists are trying to influence my decision as to what type new car I’m going to buy.
By Steal Social Security
October 24, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this
Attention:
Bush will try to steal Social Security again.
Please vote Dem to stop him from stealing Social Security.
By Peoples for a New Amerika' Century
October 24, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this
Bush is Not HITLER Really!
Barrett said Tuesday he was comparing the attacks to the burning of the German parliament building, the Reichstag, in 1933, a key event in the establishment of the Nazi dictatorship.
“That’s not comparing them as people, that’s comparing the Reichstag fire to the demolition of the World Trade Center, and that’s an accurate comparison that I would stand by,” he said. He added: “Hitler had a good 20 to 30 IQ points on Bush, so comparing Bush to Hitler would in many ways be an insult to Hitler.”By getalife
October 24, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this
Bi Nazi,
War mongers like yourself get off on babies brains being blown out by bombs.
Sick mofo indeed.
By I'm A Hopeless Welfare Dependent
October 24, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this
Attention:
Bush will try to steal Social Security again.
Please vote Dem to stop him from stealing Social Security.
I need my $750 a month, I’m a pinko.
Plus I’m too stupid to understand the stock market.
By bon scott
October 24, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this
By drunken Andy - October 24, 2006 03:56 PM - Jeez, just melt down why don’t you?
You’ve been calmer than usual, but all good things come to an end! BTW, I really liked the smackdown George gave you over your hacking! You and BushCo share the same philosophy. Do as I say not as I do.
By drooling Andy - October 24, 2006 03:56 PM -Psycho anyone?
See ^^ above.
By pederast Andy - October 24, 2006 03:56 PM -Rove driving you crazy?
Which reminds me, how IS that secret plan of Rove’s going? You know, the one where (according to you) he paid Foley million$ to disgrace himself so he could bait the Democrats into… well, something sinister and the GOP would sweep the elections?
I’m still laughing over THAT one!!
Did that plan include Sean Hannity’s plea that Democrats NOT vote?? Gawd, that was a corker! What a nincompoop.
Vote the Bush GOP war slu-ts out November 7th. You owe it to your country.
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this
Dubya no longer likes “Stay the course” for promoting his propaganda — some good replacements might be:
“stay and pay”
“stay and pray”
“stay and run”
“God told me”
“Stay and Die”
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this
Paul,
I should add that I’m talking about way back at 2:46.
Sybil,
I posted at 2:00 and my next post is at 4:54. Look I’ll make some calls if you want, you really need that rubber room back.
By Paul
October 24, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this
RW-(the original) at 4:54: My last paragraph was a bit facetious. I was referencing Pres Clinton’s “indiscretion.” The “Dems learned” meant regarding the power of a special prosecutor. I’d never much cared for turning a legitimate inquiry into a fishing expedition and coming up with anything - let alone something like Lewinsky, which was embarassing, vulgar, but not, I believe, illegal. So the Dems learned and when the Plame case came up - special prosecutor time. I read the Intelligence Identies Protection Act and thought “this’ll be quick.” Didn’t think it applied to her. Desk jockey at HQ does not equal “covert” even if involved in classified programs. Silly me. Now we hear the special prosecutor knew from the start what the score was. Also read the US Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq (most of it - it’s rather long) and what it said about Mr. Plame’s words and actions. So my last sentence was doubly sarcastic - which would’ve been clearer if I’d have typed “compromised” instead of “comprised.”
By Paul
October 24, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this
Goldie at 5:13: after all the calls to change course or change strategy/tactics, why aren’t you pleased and musing about where it might take us, instead of continuing the character attacks?
By @@
October 24, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this
It’s a good thing I’ve got a cold so I don’t have to smell odors emitted by a certain poster here who knows nothing about the boundaries set by human decency. He steps over them and on them. For what? His own gratification, not unlike the enemy who tortures innocents.
And I forgot to tell him to “F” off.
Aaaapllghhhhsst!!!!!!!
By Midori
October 24, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
Stephanie Miller this morning did a funeral bit on “Stay the Course” — death of a catchphrase
LMAO!!!
By Peoples for a New Amerika' Century
October 24, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this
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My how we forget! Did you know that Bush has done buisness on and off with the Bin Laden family for over 25 years?
Here’s a post from 2003. A bit musty and old, but also still relevant.
http://www.epinions.com/content_3619135620
So just why were 11 members of the Bin Laden family in “Amerika” during 9/11 in the first place? Must have been the sightseeing tours.
Money Money Money, It’s a rich man’s world!
+
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this
Those Terraists are trying to influence my decision to go to work each day.
By Huge
October 24, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
All good choices!
How about an old favorite?
Pull out and pray
Or here’s one for those tricky dick fans out there.
Peace with honor.
My personal favorite?
Draft republicans
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this
Paul,
I knew you meant compromised, but I missed the sarcasm. Sorry.
I’m sure right about BJ’s BJ not being illegal, that’s one of the reasons there isn’t a single word about it in the impeachment articles.
By I'm A Hopeless Welfare Dependent
October 24, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this
By oddball gay finch October 24, 2006 05:12 PM I’m still laughing over THAT one!!
I’m sure you are.
Get down all by your bad self.
Maybe Rove will hold a press conference and give it up, you reckon, looney tunes?
Why do I get the feeling you would just giggle to yourself even if he did?
By bon scott
October 24, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
Traitor alert! That right wing zealot Rupert Murdoch is going to infect the airwaves of America just TWO DAYS before the election!!
In the Simpson’s version, the confusion the radio broadcast created sets the stage for an invasion by Kang and Kodos, the lime-green aliens who have appeared in every Halloween, sorry — “Treehouse Horror” special.
The show will include references to Iraq that will probably go right over the heads of neocons like drunken Andy and non-sequitur RW.
“Well, the Earthlings continue to resent our presence,” Kang says. “You said we’d be greeted as liberators!”
Did Springfield run out of candy and flowers? Is that the punch line?
“Don’t worry,” says Kodos. “We still have the people’s hearts and minds.” In the show’s characteristic over-the-top sarcasm, Kodos then holds up a brain and heart.
Okay, maybe NOT too subtle for wingnuts.
“I don’t know,” says Kang. “I’m starting to think ‘Operation Enduring Occupation’ was a bad idea.” Kodos disagrees. “We had to invade. They were working on weapons of mass disintegration.”
Which (of course) Kang and Kodos NEVER FIND!!
As the two survey the smoking ruins of their town, Kang deadpans the last line of the segment. “This sure is a lot like Iraq will be.”
We now return you to your regularly scheduled program, already in progress.
Thank you Mr. Murdoch, naturalized American. Vote to throw the Bush GOP out November 7th.
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this
“why aren’t you pleased and musing about where it might take us, instead of continuing the character attacks?”
Paul/RW— I don’t believe you can attack something that doesn’t exist.
By SarahConnah
October 24, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish posted…
What kind of drugs are you on that causes you to read a post from someone who speaks of ripping a baby (an “abomination”) out of its mothers womb and then respond that it was a “nice post”.
The original post…
…she would have removed her diseased womb long before it spewed forth the abomination’s that it has.
See how typical you despotic Repulsivicans operate? If the fact’s don’t fit…change them! What is it about the word BEFORE that befuddled your 3rd grade brain?
Pathetic…and…typical!
Curtsie with a finger salute!
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
Nobody “gets off” on any babies dying except for you and the KOS Crew.
War is hell. Grow the f*ck up.
Sanctimonious Sybil,
What, no response to my 4:29?
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this
Looks like Fat Bastard Hastert is still using the Reagan defense — “I don’t remember”:
Hastert has said he didn’t recall that conversation. He also has been unable to recall whether he spoke with Majority Leader John Boehner about Foley last spring, although Boehner says Hastert even told him the matter was being handled
So should we believe Boner, or the Fat Bastard?
By Goldie
October 24, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this
Huge— I remember the bumper stickers that said “Impeachment With Honor” during the Nixon days… oh I’m getting so nostalgic now!
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
?
By Peoples for a New Amerika' Century
October 24, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this
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Now where have I heard this before?
The speaker has vowed to fire any of his aides if they covered up knowledge of Foley’s behavior.
Ohhh! I remember now!
WASHINGTON — President Bush said Monday that he would fire anyone in his administration who had leaked the identity of a CIA officer —
Round and Round.
By Midori
October 24, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this
Who wants to bet Danish got multiple orgasms while watching “shock and awe”?
think babies didn’t die then? you sure were estatic about that, weren’t you?
you bush bots kill me.
abortion - bad
killing brown babies - good
killing Iraqi babies - even better
By Huge
October 24, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this
Impeachment with Honor. That’s great!
One of my faves was: Don’t change Dicks in the middle of a screw, Vote for Nixon in 72.
Guess who this teenager, soon to be stationed overseas didn’t vote for?!
But enough Goldie. If we keep this up, a certain neo-con here is going to start quoting Spiro Agnew. But not facetiously!!
The more things change…
By getalife
October 24, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this
Truth hurts huh binazi?
“Draft Republicans”, indeed.
Your drug addict Rush really helped the Dems on his Fox comments.
Thanks Rush.
By Midori
October 24, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this
Judge Orders Release of Abu Ghraib Child Rape Photos
hey Danish - at least they weren’t “ripped from the womb”, right?
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this
estatic-noun The noise you hear from uninformed LLL’s on a blog, when they try to paint their political betters with traits they alone possess.
Please suggest edits or additions and it’s straight to the ricktionary when the blog shuts down?
By Huge
October 24, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this
“Looks like Fat Bastard Hastert is still using the Reagan defense — “I don’t remember””
Goldie,
Negative campaign idea: Have Fat Bastard Hastert say he doesn’t remember and then yell “Get in my belly!”
Reminds me of the Pa Bush classic, “I was out out the loop”.
Can you say selective meory? Can you saying professional liars?
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this
Sarah Connant,
I quoted you directly here[http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/entries/2006/10/24/whatsina_name.html#comment-758776].
Before. After. WTF is the difference?
Midori,
Pathetic excuse for a parrot - I have never been “estatic” about any war. And please, can you leave the race card at home?
Getalife,
Rush quoted directly from Michael J. Fox’s book today where he admitted that he did not take his meds when he testified before Congress so that his symptoms would be more acute.
That is what is called a “FACT”. Deal with it.
By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!
October 24, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this
Isn’t it nice to see the pinkos fondly remember those old, long forgotten days of treason and treachery, when they trumped up charges and manufactured evidence against a sitting U.S. president in a time of war?
Who’s resignation paved the way for Jimmy Carter?
Now I’m happily reminiscing.
Just what we need, another peanut farmer, eh America?
Let’s show those Republican’s by abusing ourselves.
Let’s cut and run from America the Great and leap into the arms of France.
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 06:30 PM | Link to this
Midori,
What’s your point parrot? No one is condoning any alleged acts of rape, sodomy or murder, including Donald Rumsfeld.
You claim to have been in the military once. Should we tar and feather you too for the bad acts of a few people?
By Buy Danish
October 24, 2006 06:32 PM | Link to this
Sarah Connant,
Here’s that link again to your “nice” words.
By @@
October 24, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this
Huge must have Midori in his selective “meory” bank when addressing Goldie. Twofer?
RW: My eyes are watering, I thought it was “elastic”. Stretched & snapped back to smack the trigger finger.
Speaking of Michael J. Fox. I wonder if he’s aware of the recent findings on stem cell transplants for Parkinson’s disease.
A Bumpy Road for Stem Cells Proceed with caution.
By Huge
October 24, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this
So Michael J. plays up his condition to get sympathy for his cause. Kinda dumb and not cool. Especially when most Americans with any compassion already agree that the research is necessary and proper.
Limbaugh? IMHO, unquestionably and woefully lacking in that compassion department…
By @@
October 24, 2006 06:51 PM | Link to this
Upon closer examination of Huge’s post at 6:11.
{{{“I was out out the loop”.}}}
{{{Can you say selective meory? Can you saying professional liars?}}}
Is Huge drinking?
Aaaapllghhhhsst!!!!!!!
By bon scott
October 24, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this
By Bye Danish - October 24, 2006 05:36 PM - What, no response to my 4:29?
Frankly, it was a really silly question. But since you asked, let’s jump into the wayback machine.
By Bye Danish - October 24, 2006 04:29 PM - Was I a “traitor” in need of your “prayers” last November?
If I had known you last November, I would have thought you were in need of prayers, yes. And I would have prayed for you.
Vote the Bush GOP out November 7th.
By Huge
October 24, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this
@@,
I guess I’m missing your obtuse humor in that 6:35.
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 07:04 PM | Link to this
It doesn’t help Michael J. Fox any that the ad copy they wrote for him lies about the positions either. In Maryland that Democrat voted against stem cell research funding and in Missouri the Republican is not opposed to adult stem cell research. The ad tells you that the Republican is against stem cell research which makes it sound like he opposes all research.
Embryonic stem cell research has been going on side by side with adult stem cell research using private funding for years. There is a long list of advancements to treatment and outright cures that have come from adult stem cell research, there is a big goose egg from embryonic.
Beyond all that I find it despicable to hold out the promise of a pending cure to people with terminal illness and their families for cheap political gain.
By bon scott
October 24, 2006 07:08 PM | Link to this
Hugh, I think Rush went to the Bill Frist school of medicine. They both majored in diagnosis by television.
It’s been fun toying with all you Repukes today. RW, seek professional help. Your rambling on about mental health made no sense. None. ByeD, your assignment tonight? Study the words ‘patriot’ and ‘treason’. Compare and contrast with Bush’s criminal behavior.
Please Repukes, try to resist the urge to smother your sorrows with chemical substances tonite. Especially you, pederast Andy. Good thing you’re not allergic to latex!
14 days and counting. The GOP is toast.
By We're Gonna.....Raise......Your......Taxes!!!!
October 24, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this
Blowhard: I think what @@ was trying to tell you at 6:35 is that the next time you have orgasmic glee in some rude celebration of anti American masturbation, you should use spell checker before you post your comments.
Or don’t you mind being seen as an illiterate?
By RW-(the original)
October 24, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this
Sybil,
It’s not me that is seeing posts that aren’t on the blog, but on the list of finch/seeker/bonnie pedophile/mirror/seneca psychoses that seeing posts things is a mild one.