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Wagging the dog?

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By I Report, You Whine

October 10, 2006 06:53 AM | Link to this

I was going to “wag” Georgie Girl but she doesn’t get here this early, oh well.

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According to another DNC operative: bad polling numbers across the country. “Bush’s national security speeches were getting traction beyond the base, gas prices were dropping, economic outlook surveys were positive. So how to remedy? “You pull out the bright shiny things that distract the average American voter away from the issues we all know they care about — national security, anti-terrorism — and focus on the ugly: Foley.-AmericanSpectator

Focus on the things that liberals can understand.

Right, cartoon boy?

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I wonder if the pinkos will be quoting Pat Buchanan this week:

How can Democrats credibly denounce a 52-year-old gay man for sending dirty instant messages to a 16-year-old, when Democrats have legalized sex with 16-year-olds in D.C.? Isn’t that a mite hypocritical? But to have the party of gay rights, many of whose leaders have marched in gay pride parades alongside the pedophiles of NAMBLA, acting “shocked, shocked” at GOP torpor in outing and ousting its flaming gay member is, to put it mildly, unconvincing.-TownHall

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This is the frivolous media — and the biased media. Republican Congressman Foley was wrong and is out on his ear. But Democrats in both Congress and the White House have gone far beyond words with a page and an intern. Yet the Democrats did not resign and Bill Clinton’s perjury, obstruction of justice, and suborning of perjury by others were treated as if these were irrelevant private matters. Even when serious issues are addressed, they can be addressed either seriously or frivolously. If you are content to see life and death issues of war and peace addressed with catch phrases like “chicken hawk” or to see a coalition of nations around the world fighting terrorism referred to as “unilateral” U.S. action because France does not go along, then you are content with frivolity.-ThomasSowellRealClear

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

October 10, 2006 07:58 AM | Link to this

The North Korean test has prompted predictable calls for renewed and invigorated diplomacy, but America has been dealing with North Korea diplomatically since the 1994 “Agreed Framework,” negotiated by our most hapless president, Jimmy Carter. In 2000, President Clinton went so far as to dispatch Secretary Albright to pay homage and clink glasses with Kim Jong Il, a toast that will live in infamy as one of the lowest points to which an American state secretary has ever sunk. North Korea has reveled in the diplomacy while moving ahead with its nuclear weapons program.-NYSun

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The Clinton legacy, already shredding because of his inability to deal with al Qaeda and terrorism, has just been dealt yet another — perhaps mortal — blow by Clinton and Carter’s foolish trust in the North Korean father and son dictators. But more importantly, the problem now is that Democrats are running for House and Senate seats all over the nation supporting some version of this very same appeasement policy towards Iraq, the War on Terror, and critically, Iran.-AmericanSpectator

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First, North Korea has been suspected of having the bomb since at least 1998 (the Arkansas Rednekkks president!!), and declared that it did in 2002. The test merely confirms what was already widely supposed. “A plutonium device should produce a yield in the range of 20 kilotons, like the one we dropped on Nagasaki,” Mr. Lewis wrote on the Defensetech Web site Monday. “No one has ever dudded their first test of a simple fission device. North Korean nuclear scientists are now officially the worst ever.” Third, the test has alarmed the South Koreans, who are rethinking their appeasement policy toward the North, and angered the Chinese, without whose continued support the North Korean regime cannot survive.-RealClearPolitics

By Charles

October 10, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

I finally figured out why your readers no longer have confidence in your opinion.

The AJC …. is the real loser. In its mean-spirited delight over misfortunes, it has squandered the precious First Amendment right to influence and thus be considered a trustworthy source of objectivity. No wonder more and more people are tuning you out and turning you off.

SONNY PERDUE, Governor of Georgia

Welcome aboard Governor Perdue! Though the Foley saga is being dragged on by the mainstream media on orders of the DNC (it’s been almost 2 weeks since he resigned, unlike Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy and other Democrats should have done during their scandals) those of us who can think objectively can see through this smokescreen. Hopefully, those who are weak-minded and easily influenced by mainstream press will forget to go vote.

I wonder how many Liberals will resort to name calling now? Pretty sad they can’t argue without doing that …. I guess it’s their only defense.

By Shawny

October 10, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

Yep…wagging the dog at its best. With real news like DPRKs nuke tests, cartoon boy and his MSM commies want to keep an isolated scandal in the forefront.

By Brian Curtis

October 10, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this

But Republican hypocrisy is everywhere! Why focus on just the one scandal when there so many, many more to choose from?

By Mike

October 10, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

Mikey the bigot is right. No real news will get the Foley story out of the headlines. That is because liberal journalists feature those stories which will help Democrats, regardless of whatever real news is out there.

Thanks for reminding us that the media does a terrible job. Maybe that’s why the press’s approval ratings are lower than Bush’s or the Congress. Of course, that is a poll that the press doesn’t talk about.

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Shawny,

Brian Ross at ABC News releases a new raunchy IM daily. I think they have something like 92 of them altogether, but how much do you want to bet that they stop releasing them right after Election Day?

By Oscar Wilde

October 10, 2006 08:57 AM | Link to this

Geez, there’s an awful lot of whiny, pansy-a@@, it’s not fair, conservatives out there. Get used to it boys, life’s not supposed to be fair - and we got a long period of democratic congressional control coming! break out them tissues!

By Donovan Coley

October 10, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

The same political hit job. The same overwhelming approval poll. And the smear goes on.

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

Oscar Wilde

Isn’t it just like a pansy-as$ to accuse others of being pansies.

By gadem

October 10, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this

Well let’s not focus on Foley, because he has a problem that he needs professional help for. Let’s focus on the failed foreign policy of the Bush Administration…is that better. Bush has been a failure at everything he has tried…and that is not an opinion but well documented. And he leaves a failed foreign policy for someone else to clean up…but I am sure after a Democrat wins the Presidency and something happens with either N. Korea or Iran, you wingnuts will blame him and claim Bush policies worked…hypocrites. I report you decide.

By Paul

October 10, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

If I try real hard, I can read this cartoon as “Look at all the serious, serious events in the world today, all the challenges facing America, and what do the print press and the national networks and the opposition party focus on? You got it - a sexually perverted congressman - because it’s a way to try to damage the opposing party.”

Or, one could even say Mr. Luckovich recognizes that in spite of the “political sideshow” of the Foley scandal, the President is still focused on the issues that threaten America and its national interests.

I can see both of those in this cartoon. If I try real hard.

By Paul

October 10, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this

gadem: any idea what policies regarding N Korea or Iran a Democratic President will pursue that will “clean up a failed foreign policy”? And what, exactly, is “success” in dealing with these two countries?

By N-GA

October 10, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

lol….the funniest toon of the year!! Hits the North Koreans, the GOP Foley cover-up, and Iraq all at once.

For those of you missing the Iraq link, just look at the toy soldiers and tanks GWB’s playing with.

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this

Gadim,

Can you find any photos of Condi Rice clinking glasses with Kim Jong Ill?

By N-GA

October 10, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

Kim Jong has better hair than Condi, but he never had an oil tanker named after him.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this

Iraq: That cowboy Bush acted alone, damn him!

North Korea: That idiot Bush insists on involving other countries in talks, damn him!

I guess it is easier to be a Democrat where you just give our enemies anything they want and leave the problems for your successor, who you immediately trash for trying to solve them.

So the choice becomes, vote for Republicans that want to finish the heavy lifting internationally or vote for Democrats who want to protect our youth by making 12 the age of consent.

By getalife

October 10, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this

Well, we invaded Iraq for WMD’s.

I guess that was then and this is now.

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

North Georgia Goat Herder,

Having Bush play with toy soldiers does not necessarily mean “Iraq!!”, idiot.

ML is trying to convince us that Bush is a little boy who uses the military as a toy.

Of course how he managed to set off a blast in N. Korea is not explained, but hey those are insignificant details if you’re ML the Pulitzer Patriot catering to a putz like you.

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

North GA Goat Herder,

It figures you would think Kim Jong Ill has great hair, and that has something to do with how people get “oil tankers” named after them.

Any more wisdom you’d like to share with us? Maybe you and Paris Hilton could get together and come up with something awesome.

By Political Foreskin

October 10, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

North Korea’s big bang was more fizzle than pop. A fission reaction can end in thousands of different ways, not just in a mushroom cloud. There’s a spectrum of possible kabooms, from no kaboom and all radiation, to little radiation and all kaboom.

N. Korea’s nuclear test was very small, in fact, I’ve seen bigger explosions from cherry bomb firecrackers you can buy in S. Carolina. I’ve seen more damage done from elementary school science lab experiments gone amok. In the eighth grade, I once made a stink bomb that you could smell for six weeks.

Did you know that you can put fissionable material into two empty soup cans and just clap your hands together combining the two cans and you can get a very low grade dirty nasty radiation bomb?

Just expect a phoney terror alert from Bush before the elections, that’s the real danger here.

I mean, N. Korea couldn’t blow up a rice paddy if they had one. The only danger from their nookyoolar program is that it allows Bush to puff up his chest and talk tuff, (if he could just enunciate words correctly, it would be far more believable)

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

Here’s a picture of a fool named Madeline Albright toasting the “Agreed Framework”.

How do you like her hair, NGA?.jpg)

By N-GA

October 10, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

bi-danish,

you couldn’t distinguish sarcasm from a dead battery in your vibrator….and YES, I can infer Iraq from numbnut’s toy soldiers and you can infer whatever your pseudo-christian brain wants…it’s your right…what people other than you have fought to defend…meanwhile some might opine in which ring of hell in Dante’s Inferno you will spend the rest of eternity for your hypocrisy…perhaps you’ll encounter Saddam during your travels.

By Dusty

October 10, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

Oh bother, just another cartoon to please the clamoring DNC crowd that gets on here every day rejoicing over any “calamity” that might be called American.

Luckovich is typical of Democrats these days. Make the president look bad no matter what happens. They purposely forget his strength in tragedies such as 9/11. They minimize and criminalize his efforts to keep America safe by fighting terrorism. They will not support our war efforts and give the enemy support by calling for “cut’n’run”. They laugh at the fact that the President is an ethical man with no secret life to expose. They report loss when there is gain, such as the economy.

So, Liberals, go buy Luckovich’s two cent book of reprints on rejection of America. You’ll love it. We already know. Anything to smear the prsident and the country makes you happy.

By Midori

October 10, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

Dennis Hastert the Hut will be having a press conference today.

Wonder what that’s all about?

By cindy

October 10, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this

Nice toon, Mike. Love those bush toys!

That is so appropos. This presidency is a game to bush and he really has treated the military like his toys; he cares not that he sends them into a war without sufficient weapons, armor, or might. Then bogged down in Iraq which was so dangerous because it had all the WMDs, he lets Iran and N. Korea waltz on with their developments of WMD.

What a brain child.

Can’t wait for the attacks on the Libs from this one. Truth cannot be denied, so nasty cutesy remarks are all that is left for the right to fall back on.

By Midori

October 10, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

If you detest Mike Luckovich and/or his cartoons so much, exactly why are you here?

I just don’t get it.

Please don’t come back with the “free speech” nonsense.

It just appears to me that if you dislike a certain person’s work, or art if you will, you wouldn’t patronize it.

By Paul

October 10, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

Well, no response from gadem.

Question for the rest of the forum: Sanctions could well be imposed upon N Korea. Previously, Pres Clinton used former Pres Carter as an envoy to N Korea - had an agreement in which N Korea agreed to stop pursuit of nuclear weapons. US agreed to an aid package including oil, nuclear reactor (not all types produce fissionable material) and food. The aid was valued at hundreds of millions of dollars and was widely hailed in the press as it would prevent the starvation of millions of Koreans (estimates are that even after the aid package N Korea continued to divert resources to the military and an additional million N Koreans starved to death).

Now to the question - given the events that have occurred, should sanctions include suspension of all humanitarian assistance, including food? It can be argued that “the people” are innocent and should not suffer. It can also be argued that suspension of food aid will cause the N Korean government to divert resources to its population at the risk of an uprising (doubtful at this time).

So should we suspend food aid? Please do not include “Bush is stoopid” or “Bush faled cuz he’s an idiut” in your response -

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

Let’s try that link again.

Madeline and Kim Jong Ill.jpg)

Mean Old Bully Goat,

My you’re touchy today. I recognize sarcasm, and I respond in kind.

You really are the poster boy for nasty MoFos who vote for Democrats. Try to control your temper - that facade of sweetness and light is cracking.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

So goat boy thinks that soldiers have fought and died for our right to interpret cartoons, that’s pretty rich. I bet that doesn’t mean Danish cartoons that depict Mohamed, but I digress. Goat boy, I thought soldiers died for your right to suck off the government for your health care costs.

Sybil bon finchie,

Back when President Bush labeled Iraq, Iran, and North Korea as an axis of evil most of you brain dead liberals said he was being too provocative. I guess since you now agree he was right, but claim he went in the wrong order is progress. Don’t you just know that it will turn out he was right and you are a fool just like always!

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

I was laughing hard at this one! One of your best in a long long time, Mike. Very well done.

By Dusty

October 10, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Midori,

If you don’t like President Bush, why do you keep criticizing him and making fun of him? Oh yes, free speech and all that nonsense.

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Midori wants this to be the “Praise Luckovich! Damn Bush!” page and is irritated that you aren’t lapping it up.

Apparently she has never heard of the term “art critic”, yet we are to trust her instincts on foreign policy.

By Why Pinkos Don't Need To Be In Charge

October 10, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

“What it tells you is that we started at the wrong end of the ‘axis of evil,’ ” former Senator Sam Nunn, the Georgia Democrat who has spent his post-Congressional career trying to halt a new age of proliferation, said in an interview. “We started with the least dangerous of the countries, Iraq, and we knew it at the time. And now we have to deal with that.”

Yeah, plus now we have the most dangerous of the axis of evil surrounded by the United States Armed Forces.

It’s just so confusing to the pinkos, why, we should throw down the American Flag and run!

What is this Bush guy doing?!?!

Let the women and children of New York fight the terrorists!!

Doesn’t he know anything??

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

Midori 10:03,

Gee, do you think it will be to inform his constituents and answer inquiries?

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

So Danish, what you’re telling us is that the Democrats have the gall to use the serious, severe moral shortcomings of the Republicans to their own political advantage? And that shocks you? Why exactly is it wrong to say “Look at this so-called Party of Values. They cheat, they accept bribes, they sexually harass underaged employees. You should not vote for them.” How is this not a legitemate political target? Hell, if a Democrat did what Foley did, you’d be flogging that horse 10 times as hard until election time. And you KNOW it. So stop being so indignant. Besides, the Foley thing is good for you. Would you prefer Iraq to be the focus?

By @@

October 10, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

Well ml, I dropped in yesterday looking for a worthwhile cartoon on which to comment. Nothing. With four weeks to go, polls can change with each event that unfolds.

The “Little Glow Worm” in North Korea lets loose a nuclear fart, the world takes notice but you’re still stuck on Foley.

Why all the nuclear hysteria from the libs here yesterday if you think it’s a “wag the dog” scenario?

You liberals need to get on the same page. Oops, forgot you are.

Mass hysteria! Interesting to watch, just not very productive.

By IMPEACH CHIMPY

October 10, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

I take exception to beng referred to as a Filthy Godless Pinko. First of all I shower every morning. As for Godless. Ok, I’ll give you that one. I outgrew superstition when I was a child. Pinko refers to communist sympathizers. I have no sympathy for communists. Especially since the GOP has been hijacked by people who act more like communists than the communists.

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this

Sigh, @@. I really do wish you had a sense of humor. It would make your life more interesting.

By N-GA

October 10, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

Hey Andy (the Bed Wetter) aka RW (the Real Wanker),

It didn’t take long for you to emerge from under your rock. We know you didn’t fight for anything American (you frequently admit that). Didn’t like the “don’t-ask-don’t-tell” policy?

Again you repeat the lie about health care. Please stay on message, dimwit. If it was up to you, the government would simply let people without health insurance suffer and die. No surprise. You are as predictable as any true fascist.

By Midori

October 10, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

(((Midori,

If you don’t like President Bush, why do you keep criticizing him and making fun of him? Oh yes, free speech and all that nonsense.)))

Unlike Luckovich, I’m kinda stuck with Bush. Didn’t vote for him, would never vote for him, however, he is the president. We only get one.

However, there are a multitude of cartoonists out there for you to patronize.

What a silly comparison you’ve made there. Talk about apples and mangos……

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

Bonnie Scott Sybil,

Perhaps you can explain this to those of us who do not have the benefit of multiple personalities:

[But Mr. Bush’s critics charge that the threat may be empty. As they see it, Mr. Kim watched the Iraq war and drew a simple lesson: that broken countries armed with nuclear weapons do not get invaded, and do not have to worry about regime change.] (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/10/world/asia/10assess.html?hp&ex=1160539200&en=4476571b6d74d04a&ei=5094&partner=homepage)

Hmmmmmmm. It sounds like he was watching He Who Cannot Be Named - just like Bin Laden.

By Must See TV

October 10, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

It’s on GPB/PBS tonight at 10. The “Frontline” episode entitled “The Enemy Within”. How the BushBots use FEAR to divert the public’s attention and (for comedy relief) ruin people’s lives.

It’s all about the fear.

Fearmongering also generates political support, a fact that the Bush administration has abused in a variety of ways to press the hunt for terrorists on American soil.

Wild goose chases motivated by political paranoia and selfishness.

“People talked about cells and sleeper cells and all of that,” Thomas H. Kean, the former co-chairman of the 9/11 Commission said. “We didn’t find any.”

Fear fear fear fear fear. Be very afraid.

Instead, to gain credibility in its new role, the F.B.I. leveled important-sounding charges against small-time crooks. A recent study quoted by Frontline found that almost all of the government’s 441 “terrorism-related” cases since 9/11 involved relatively petty charges, like visa violations and financial fraud — not plans to carry out violent acts.

Fear as a political weapon by the White House.

“The Enemy Within” argues compellingly that the Lodi case, a showcase trial in the Bush administration’s war on domestic terrorism, was largely created out of whole cloth. The country was never in danger from the Hayats but may well be entering a dangerous period of unnecessary and abusive prosecutions.

It is a threat that the journalist H. L Mencken warned against decades ago. “The whole aim of practical politics,” he wrote, “is to keep the populace alarmed — and hence clamorous to be led to safety — by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

The Bush cabal is criminally incompetent in it

By Busted!!

October 10, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

The filthy name jacker uncovered, again, same as the old name jacker, loser:

The jack- By RW {{{{{(the aboriginal)}}}}} October 6, 2006 10:26 AM Dont hurry back. How do we exterminate this unhinged troll?

and the mistake, all idiot liberals make them eventually- By pedophile bon scott freak October 9, 2006 04:49 PM {{{{{{Aboriginal,}}}}}} when you repeat lies, it’s unwise to do so when it’s a simple matter to refute them:

@@, Danish and all the others that have gooten screwed with by this little pis-s ant, ain’t it nice to know?

By Midori

October 10, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

you stupid twit. perhaps if you minded your own business, you wouldn’t have to try to read my mind and question my motives when I ask SOMEONE ELSE a question.

By getalife

October 10, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

The illegal invasision of Iraq, along with the axis of evil threat, gives North Korea and Iran an opening to build nukes to protect from a US invasion.

Iraq is the disaster that just keeps on giving.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

Don’t you just love it when moonbats try to pretend they are Republican strategists? Yesterday it was Sybil and it appears rushncap has assumed the position today.

BTW rusncrap, if YOU had a sense of humor or any intellectual depth you would realize that @@ is hysterically funny. Too bad she goes over your head.

By @@

October 10, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

Paul: I’ve pondered that very question on food aide. I watched a CNN special last night on North Korea. There are dissidents within the country who are trying to instigate a rebellion of the people. The food from the U.N. is being sold on the market while children are starving & stealing to survive. Dead bodies in the street are a common occurence.

I’m not inclined to cut off humanitarian aide, but I’d couple it with a covert assassination of Kim Jong. Question is, how would the military respond? Who’s in line to take over?

By Filthy Godless Pinkos

October 10, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

By IMPEACH CHIMPY October 10, 2006 10:21 AM I take exception to beng referred to as a Filthy Godless Pinko. First of all I shower every morning.

It’s your gutter mind that I’m referring to.

As for Godless. Ok, I’ll give you that one. I outgrew superstition when I was a child.

Stupidity stayed with you the whole way, didn’t it?

Pinko refers to communist sympathizers. I have no sympathy for communists. Especially since the GOP has been hijacked by people who act more like communists than the communists.

Pinko: (noun) A filthy Godless person who leans to the political left.

Socialists and communists are the same difference you silly pinko.

By getalife

October 10, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

Since there are no boots on the ground or intell in North Korea, w depends on reporters for intell:

Q Mr. President, if I could follow up, you say diplomacy takes time – THE PRESIDENT: Yes, it does.

Q — but it was four years ago that you labeled North Korea a member of the “axis of evil.” And since then it’s increased its nuclear arsenal, it’s abandoned six-party talks and now these missile launches –

THE PRESIDENT: Let me ask you a question. It’s increased it’s — that’s an interesting statement: “North Korea has increased its nuclear arsenal.” Can you verify that?

Q Well, intelligence sources say — if you can — if you’d like to dispute that, that’s fine.

THE PRESIDENT: No, I’m not going to dispute, I’m just curious.

Curious George.

By Midori

October 10, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

Andy,

give it up.

You started that name jacking crap from day one. Then you tried to deflect attention from yourself by trying to point the finger at several people here.

no one is buying your stupid, childish garbage any more. I wouldn’t believe you if you said it was raining outside — I’d have to physically go out to see for myself.

The only one jacking names around here is you. And you know it. Which speaks volumes about you.

By Filthy Godless Pinkos

October 10, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

By getalife October 10, 2006 10:35 AM The illegal invasision of Iraq, along with the axis of evil threat, gives North Korea and Iran an opening to build nukes to protect from a US invasion.

We have 2000 nuclear tipped missiles aimed at North Korea versus their one or two dud bombs and the liberals accuse us of “fear mongering,” hahahaha.

Silly little hysteritic.

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

Rushncap,

As RW points out, the difference is that Democrats want to make 12 the age of consent.

You seem to be shocked that Republicans actually have values to begin with, and that human beings often fail to live up to those standards.

I guess in your Utopian paradise it is best not to have any rules to begin with because it is guaranteed that someone will break them.

In your paradise there never seems to be a resignation to go along with the breaking of trust. Indeed it seems to be a badge of honor to stand in defiance and refuse to acknowledge any wrong doing.

Remember the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy? Perhaps you can show me where Clinton actually apologized for something other than slavery which he had nothing to do with.

Thanks for defining a critical difference between you and us!

By @@

October 10, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

rushncap: I have a great appreciation for humor. I keep forgetting to thank you for the laughs you give me each time you post.

Your “hysterical” responses…nobody does it better.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Sure Midori, It’s Andy jacking names. Maybe that’s why YOU and SEEKER bin Sybil are the ones always getting yourselves caught.

By getalife

October 10, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Andy,

You are way out there man.

Take a break.

Go see a doctor.

Check into rehab.

Wow.

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

Midori,

I’m not trying to read your mind, I am responding to your public utterances. Delving into your mind would be too foul an endeavor.

If you don’t want anyone to comment on your silly comments maybe you shouldn’t comment at all.

Just using a little Midori reasoning^^

By Paul

October 10, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

getalife: ref. my 10:11 post: N Korea was on the nuclear weapons development path while the Clinton Administration was trying to decipher the jihadist threat.

Re: “protect from a US invasion” - that’s been a mantra of some. Remember during the last election - US realigned forces based in S Korea and Germany - pulled thousands out - (Kerry criticized both moves) - US pulls forces out of S Korea, some repeat mantra that US is preparing to invade N Korea? Usually a country preparing to invade another increases troop presence…

@@ at 10:38 - I missed the special. I’m amazed there is any kind of an effective dissident structure - Kim Jong took the example of Stalin and built upon it - some of his “prison camps” are larger than Washington DC. N Korea arrests a subversive - they also imprison the family for two generations in each direction.

You’ve hit the nail on the head - cutting off humanitarian aid has a direct impact on the people who are suffering as a result of the regime’s actions. But, continuing the aid strengthens the regime. Regarding the military - the recent model from other examples is the military can lead a coup. Question is - will they do so because they see Kim Jong as risking their positions of privilege and will they merely perpetuate the current policies? I do not think they view “military as servants of the people” as is the western model.

Having said that, I do not think we should in any way give any assistance to such a regime - unless it’s tied to clear, verifiable conditions that are to our advantage. Not like the “kick the can” example of the previous administration.

By bon scott

October 10, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

By RW-(the aboriginal) - October 10, 2006 10:14 AM - Don’t you just know that it will turn out he was right and you are a fool just like always!](http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/entries/2006/10/10/waggingthedog.html#comment-727089)

Look, monkeyshines. A North Korea with nukes may not be an immediate threat to the US, but it was and is a far bigger threat to world stability (via neighbor China) than Iraq ever was. So stuff it.

By pedophile Andy the drunk - October 10, 2006 10:35 AM - The filthy name jacker uncovered, again, same as the old name jacker, loser.

Andy, you poor old sot. At most, your idiotic post proves that I recognize a good nickname when I see one.

But I’m SOOOOO glad to see you wasting your time on your little investigations. Kind of like Bush’s FBI arresting and jailing “domestic terrorists” who are anything but. Hope you watch “Frontline” tonight!

Now go back to your bottle and your pederast fantasies, twit.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

You have to cut Midori some slack. She’s used to a place where you say something insane and someone else breaks out a dancing frog and says “kick.” It’s hard for someone to go from that to the real world and at least she’s trying.

By Paul

October 10, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

Filthy Godless Pinko at 10:44 - the quip “we have 2000 nukes pointed at them, they have only…”

Essential difference in the world situation today vs. 50 years ago - used to evaluate threat my comparing military forces, readiness, equipment, training, etc. All things equal in characteristics, relied on numbers to determine who was “stronger.” Nukes, particularly in the hands of “rogue” states or states willing to provide them to nongovernmental entities, renders the earlier evaluation of military strength meaningless. One nuclear detonation in the right area can have horrific consequences. Just one.

By bon scott

October 10, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

By @@ - October 10, 2006 10:38 AM - I’m not inclined to cut off humanitarian aide, but I’d couple it with a covert assassination of Kim Jong.

Clinton’s motivation for negotiating with North Korea was at least to delay it’s nuclear weapons program, hoping that Kim would either die or be killed before it succeeded.

When BushCo cut off all talks, it was all the motivation Kim needed to make developing nuclear weapons a priority.

It would be nice if somebody offed Kim. It’d be nice if his supplicants rose up as one and dumped him. But I’m not holding my breath.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

Sybil,

Stuff it??????

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Freaking baby!

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

bon scott,

I have to say you have finally come up with a semi-accurate analysis.

Clinton did in fact kick all problems down the road in the hopes they would go away, welcome aboard!

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

Bonnie Scott Sybil,

Perhaps you can explain to us why the (shhhhhhh!) Clinton Administration had a policy of regime change in Iraq…not North Korea. Not to mention all their warnings about WMDs, immediate threats, et cetera.

You really are fabulous at re-writing history. I bet Kim Jong Il would hire you to work for him in a heartbeat, although the food is probably better at the DNC - if not a bit heavy on the wheatgrass.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

October 10, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

By Midori October 10, 2006 10:44 AM Andy, give it up. You started that name jacking crap from day one.

I offer proof.

You have nothing but baseless insinuations.

I am appalled that you would even suggest that I could be a sorry shiftless little loser like finch.

What will you wrongfully accuse me of next, spamming the blog??

By bon scott

October 10, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

Here’s something the FBI can investigate. BushBots were HOPING for a nuclear North Korea. You know, the fear thing. Either that, or they’re terminally stupid.

Thanks to an agreement brokered by the Clinton administration, the fuel rods from the old Yongbyon power plant were locked in a storage facility under the monitoring of international weapons-inspectors. Common sense dictated that—whatever it did about the centrifuges—the Bush administration should do everything possible to keep the fuel rods locked up.

Common sense is something BushBots never had. They unilaterally suspended talks. What happened?

The North Koreans expelled the international inspectors, broke the locks on the fuel rods, loaded them onto a truck, and drove them to a nearby reprocessing facility, to be converted into bomb-grade plutonium. The White House stood by and did nothing.

This is what happens when you ask children to do a grownup’s job.

The pattern of decision making that led to this debacle will sound familiar to anyone who has watched Bush and his cabinet in action. It is a pattern of wishful thinking, blinding moral outrage, willful ignorance of foreign cultures, a naive faith in American triumphalism, a contempt for the messy compromises of diplomacy, and a knee-jerk refusal to do anything the way the Clinton administration did it.

PS - to RW the aboriginal. Don’t like stuff it?

How about your drunken perv Andy’s favorite dismissal? Blow me.

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

Sybil bon finchie,

{{Clinton’s motivation for negotiating with North Korea was at least to delay it’s nuclear weapons program, hoping that Kim would either die or be killed before it succeeded.}}

WOW! Foreign policy based on wishing and hoping that someone will die eventually. What a legacy Clinton is building.

Maybe Bush could use that policy too - everybody dies eventually, right? Why not try that in Iran while we’re at it?

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

October 10, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

By Paul October 10, 2006 11:01 AM One nuclear detonation in the right area can have horrific consequences. Just one.

Yes, it will have dire consequences, for North Korea, Iran, Syria and all of the other lunatic enabling nation states.

One city for us would mean total unmitigated ruination for them, within minutes.

They would ALL be with the 72 virgins, every single solitary Muslim within range.

I hope they understand that.

Finch: Maybe Seeker will be along to congratulate you on the new nickname you stole form the name jacker. You freaking weirdo.

By N-GA

October 10, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

Paul,

International aid to feed the needy has frequently been misappropriated by governments and resold or given to people within the government. It has happened in Africa, Asia, and South America.

As far as North Korean humanitarian aid, I think it should be cut off entirely UNLESS there is absolute verification that it is getting to the people who genuinely need it. Without that verification, stop the aid.

By Eric

October 10, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

Attention right wing losers, it’s been six years since the real President left office. Give it up already!

By Dusty

October 10, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

Well, what a relief.

Now we know that Midori cherishes the president because he IS the president!!! Who would have guessed at her loyalty??

That she does not believe in free speech if you say something she doesn’t like.

Furthermore, on her Scout’s honor, she has implied that she would never “jack” names.

Next she will declare the meaning of “is” and that will be settled.

Sorry to leave these times of revelation, but I must hit the world of commerce. Some call it shopping .

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

October 10, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

By Buy Danish October 10, 2006 11:20 AM Sybil bon finchie,{{Clinton’s motivation for negotiating with North Korea was at least to delay it’s nuclear weapons program, hoping that Kim would either die or be killed before it succeeded.}}

Danish: Just to comment on what foreign policy genuieses this coward liberals are, the guy that Clinton started negotiating with DID DIE and some would say it got worse, much worse.

So much for that president Arkansas Rednekkk’s national security legacy.

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

Eric the Doobie,

Maybe we should stop studying the Revolutionary War, Civil War, WWI and WWII while were at it.

History? What’s that, dude?

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

Eric dude,

This is for you

By @@

October 10, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

Paul:

So no covert assassination? Am I allowed to be disappointed?

There are some great articles here on the North Korea issue. One of them even states that Kim Jong has been a success. It made my skin crawl given the content.

I guess I wouldn’t make a very good president. My heart breaks for the people. Neighboring countries are the key to this problem, and Bush is dealing with N. Korea through them. The right approach in my opinion.

finch:

This one’s for you.

That is a long way from the current Bush Administration’s position. But if it did want to change tack, his analysis, and pedigree, might give it political cover from the accusation that it was resorting to Clinton’s tactics.

Will it work? I don’t think so.

Then who will you blame? Bush or Clinton?

It’s pretty obvious, you’ll blame Bush and leave Clinton on the pedestal where you’ve placed him.

Gone for awhile.

By Midori

October 10, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

only an idiot like you can twist my words into your non logical gibberish.

When exactly did I say I “cherished” anything? Today is Tuesday. What day is it in your world?

Furthermore, I don’t care if you believe me or not, re: name jacking. Believe what you wish. Who are you any way? Just another right wing clown who is reduced to spitting and sputtering whenever the truth is not on your side. How does one convince a complete moron that she is not a moron?

It appears that you have to twist and turn facts and logic just so you can have some kind of “spiffy” comeback. You, like Bush, have failed miserably.

By Dusty

October 10, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

Oh dear, Midori wants a spiffy comback. I will have to check my spiffy.

How about “stick and stones….”? Nawww.

How about “ignorance is bliss”?….Nawwww. Midori isn’t blissful.

Sorry, Midori, I’m all out of spiffy. Try again next week. I will put an order in for spiffy in a jiffy. OK?

By bon scott

October 10, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

drunken Andy the pederast enabler - October 10, 2006 11:13 AM - I am appalled that you would even suggest that I could be a sorry shiftless little loser. What will you wrongfully accuse me of next, spamming the blog??

Well, you ARE a shiftless little loser, Andy. And you are a consummate spammer no matter what name you use here.

Have another drink. Play with your rubber novelties. Dream up more paranoid conspiracy theories and nonsense spam attacks.

These are the things you do best.

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

Oops that 11:45 was for “ANDY”.

By In Protest

October 10, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

I would love to stay and read the good liberal dialog, minus the conservative trash, but I am off to Macon to join those watching the circus; the chimp with the war toys.

By RE

October 10, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

What is all this blame bush/ blame clinton business with North Korea. Why is it the U.S. responsibility to contain every nutty country on the face of the earth. Nuclear N Korea is really not much of a threat to the US. The big loser, and the main policy failure in all this is China. It is the major power in Asia both militarialy and financially. That power is checked to an extent by Russia and India, but no other countries have any deterrant effect on them. This can change that balance, other nations such as S Korea and Japan may stregthen thier military positions.

In all, the big loser in this is China, not the US

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

October 10, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

Why would pedophile bon scott freak rush to the defense of finchie?

Huh?

Danish: I understood, it’s bad typing day, my “Just to comment on what foreign policy genuieses this coward liberals are” should have been “geniuses these.”

Say that 3 times fast.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

October 10, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

By RE October 10, 2006 12:00 PM This can change that balance, other nations such as S Korea and Japan may stregthen thier military positions. In all, the big loser in this is China, not the US

Looks like the democrat underground loaded the wrong talking points into REbot, he’s never, NEVER come this close to making sense before.

This can’t be our RE.

By Midori

October 10, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Poor, poor Dusty.

{{{sigh}}}

It’s only slightly past noon, and she’s tanked already.

Are you and Andy related?

By Midori

October 10, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Andy,

If only you’d come within a centimeter of making sense………

By RE

October 10, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

It’s me alright.

THe US cannot be the backstop for every problem in the world. Enough is enough.

Iraq, not a threat to the US, a threat to Israel

Iran, Not a threat to the US, a threat to Israel

N Korea, not a threat to the US, a threat to S Korea and Japan.

We do have a great deal of influence in the world, but we do not need to fight every battle and pay every cost. Not our problem.

Things could have been handled better, I do not belive economic isolation works as a deterrent to a dictatorship. Castro has been in power for 8 presidents so far, 3 of the 8 had two terms. Kim Jong Il will never feel any effect of economic santions on his country, he will live in a palace with plenty of hookers for the rest of his life. Let China deal with this, they have the most to lose.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

Talk about misguided finger pointing. Kerry says he should have assassinated the President for Theresa’s birthday and Colmes says it’s Ann Coulter’s fault

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

RE,

Would you like to name the three Presidents that had two terms since Castro took over Cuba?

By Eric

October 10, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

It is just silly to associate the NK nuke test with elections…

but these falling gas prices? How timely? How many hours after the November election will they start to increase?

By Brian Curtis

October 10, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

RE makes an excellent point. When did the U.S. nominate itself as World Police Force, and how do we quit the job?

By Midori

October 10, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

“I was seventeen years old and just returned to [my home state] when Foley began to e-mail me, asking if I had ever seen my page roommates naked and how big their penises were,” said the page in the 2002 class.

The former page also said Foley told him that if he happened to be in Washington, D.C., he could stay at Foley’s home if he “would engage in oral sex” with Foley.

The second page who talked with ABC News, a graduate of the 2000 page class, says Foley actually visited the old page dorm and offered rides to events in his BMW.

“His e-mails developed into sexually explicit conversations, and he asked me for photographs of my erect penis,” the former page said.

The page said Foley maintained e-mail contact with him even after he started college and arranged a sexual liaison after the page had turned 18.

The third page interviewed by ABC News, a graduate of the 1998 page class, said Foley’s instant messages began while he was a senior in high school.

“Foley would say he was sitting in his boxers and ask what I was wearing,” the page said.

“It became more weird, and I stopped responding,” the page said.

All three pages described similar instant message and e-mail patterns, with remarkably similar escalations of provocative questions.

“He didn’t want to talk about politics,” the page said. “He wanted to talk about sex or my penis,” the page said.

By IMPEACH CHIMPY

October 10, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

Looks like the wingnuts are in the minority and sliping fast:

Sounds like a hostile crowd for the GOP according to the new CNN poll:

- 75% said Republicans took inappropriate steps - 52% said they believe the GOP leadership didn't investigate the charges earlier because they were deliberately covering the scandal up - 39% approval for Bush - 28% approval for Congress - 58% of likely voters to support Democrats - 34% think most members of Congress deserve re-election

It doesn’t sound as though Americans are interested in staying the course.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

Midori,

If this keeps up somebody might have to ask Foley to resign. Perhaps we can even have the Attorney General look into at the Federal level and ask Florida to seek criminal charges there…..

What????? All that’s been done????

Never mind!

By Midori

October 10, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this

Americans say that Republican Congressional leaders put their political interests ahead of protecting the safety of teenage pages, and that House leaders knew of Mark Foley’s sexually charged messages to pages well before he was forced to quit Congress, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

With four weeks left before Election Day, the poll indicates that the scandal involving Mr. Foley, a former Republican congressman from Florida, is alienating Americans from Congress, and weakening a Republican Party that was already struggling to keep control of the House and Senate. By overwhelming numbers, including majorities of Republicans, Americans said that most members of Congress did not follow the same rules of behavior as average Americans, and that most members of Congress considered themselves above the law.

Seventy-nine percent of respondents said House Republican leaders were more concerned about their political standing than about the safety of teenage Congressional pages. About half of respondents said that the House Republican leadership had improperly handled the Foley case, compared with 27 percent who said they approved of how it was handled; 46 percent of respondents said Speaker J. Dennis Hastert of Illinois should step down. And Americans are more likely to say that Democrats, and not Republicans, share their moral values.

By IMPEACH CHIMPY

October 10, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

Kudos to the Republican leadership for getting rid of Foley in a hurry. However what would you expect from a leadership who’s motivation was to make it all go away quickly so as not to have to explain why they didn’t do it years ago when they first found out.

By Midori

October 10, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

Well, Clinton is no longer in the White House, and Monica is no longer an intern, yet according to the wingnuts they are both relevant and are brought up time and time again.

You have your blue dress. I have Mark Foley.

And I’m going to ram him down your throat (pun intended) every chance I get.

By Future

October 10, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

I’m taking a page from the conservative book. 12 years from now, I will still be attacking bush. Everytime a liberal errs, my response will be an attack on bush.

By B.Moore

October 10, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

I think it’s important to point out that U.S. intelligence hasn’t determined that N. Korea’s nuclear explosion was indeed, nuclear. They’re studying S. Korea’s intel which says it was. It’s a familiar scenario but the liberals are calling for action against N. Korea now.

Perhaps the example set from a position of strength by the U.S. has revealed the imminent threat to world peace posed by violent dictators. It’s time for more countries to show a stronger, more unified front towards a common goal.

By Randy

October 10, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this

Midori, Rational americans are seeing Kim Jong as the greater threat. Dems like you who keep focusing on the Foley scandal when it’s already been handled shows everybody that you’re political morons determined to destroy yourselves.

Dems are fools & tools that conservatives enjoy exposing.

By getalife

October 10, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this

In case you have not figured it out by now, your government has duped you cons.

Join the club.

It is our civic duty to hold them accountable in November.

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

By “Republican having values” Danish, you mean he claims to have values to get votes. This has absolutely nothing to do with his actual life, where he is free to cheat, bribe, be bribed, harass and do whatever else he wants to until he gets caught. Republicans are no more moral (and probably less so) than Democrats. But they count on idiots like you to vote for them because they ~say~ they are more moral.

Clinton had to apologize to 2 people: his wife and his daughter. Neither you nor I know whether he did that. He owed no more apologies than that. And we’ll wait and see if Shrubby ever apologizes for being one of the greatest presidential failures in the history of this country. My money is on “hell no”.

By Midori

October 10, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Randy,

If Jong is the “greater threat”, perhaps you should contact your party’s big wigs and ask why he was ignored for so long, while Iraq was invaded, having been deemed as the “greater threat”.

You’ve shown yourself to be a bigger moron that I. Not very rational, either.

Good job, Randy.

Mission Accomplished!!!!!

P.S.: Do I make u horney? Will u measure it for me?

You maggots yell Clinton whenever your boys get caught with their pants down (which is a lot these days), and have the nerve to tell me to not talk about it Foley. Case closed. He resigned. It’s all over with.

What’s good for the goose, MF.

Go Cheney yourself, you hypocritical maggot.

By Midori

October 10, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this

Randy,

do you like exposing yourself as much as Foley?

do you offer them candy or bubble gum before you flash them?

By Cindy

October 10, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

Chimpy, Getting rid of Foley in a hurry?? That man had over 10 years to spew his filth and proposition pages. They only dropped him quickly when it became public.

By Filthy Godless Pinkos

October 10, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this

Listen to Reverend Midori:

By Midori October 10, 2006 02:08 PM Randy, do you like exposing yourself as much as Foley? do you offer them candy or bubble gum before you flash them?

Am I missing something here, did I oversleep a year or two?

The same people that perfected the art of luring children into their filthy classrooms are now waxing righteous because a Conservative would dare to act like a liberal?

Have you been Born Again Midori?

Have you found Christ and are you abandoning the wickedness of your former pinko ways?

Can I get an Amen?

By RE

October 10, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

RW, sorry for the long wait for the response…:

Nixon, 1.5 terms Reagan 2 terms Clinton 2 terms Bush 2 terms

Unless you think Bush is going to die beforehand

By the way if this is your only response to my comment, it shows a true lack of thought

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

Wow. I can only hope the news are half as good as the article makes it sound. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061010/tsnm/electiondc

Some snippets:

“These are huge, huge, numbers and they are very bad for Republicans,” she said. “There is not a shred of good news in these polls for Republicans.” This is from a PO analyst for a ~conservative~ think tank American Enterprise Institute.

“Every day the Republicans are not talking about their best issues is a bad day for Republicans,” said Walter, who recently moved seven more Republican-held seats into the toss-up category for a total of 25.” This is from an analyst for a non-partisan Cook Political Report.

And on and on it goes. Maybe we will finally have something to smile about in a few weeks.

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

Here’s another way, RW: there are more registered Democrats than Republicans in the country

Try thinking next time, RW.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

RE,

Instead of being a prick how about realizing I was curious about who you meant. Johnson and Nixon both had more than one and less than two terms, pretty much the same as this point in Bush’s term. Eisenhower was finishing his second term when Castro took over.

Only Reagan and the guy we can’t name had two full terms while Castro with Castro in power. So you could have said two, you could have said five and possibly six, but three isn’t an option.

The rest of your psychobabble isn’t worth addressing unless you are planning for us to pull out of NATO the UN and any other international agreements we are a party to.

By RE

October 10, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

I recall the same comments from the same guy when Bush hit 33% in a poll. How it was all fake and fabricated.

How did that work out for you guys back then?

People just will not admit they are republican anymore, it has become a dirty word

By RE

October 10, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

Fine RW, how many American lives are you willing to give up from Israel?

How many for Japan and SOuth Korea.

How much money should we spend

I am about sick of sending out our troops to fight and die for other people. For what, 60% of the Iraqis would slit a GIs throat right now if they had the oppertunity. It is not for our protection. We cannot babysit the entire world.

By Jim's a Distractor

October 10, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

Hi Mike,

How about a cartoon on this? It’s quite funny:

REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA

As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.

That is why, in this era of official evasion and posturing, we offer instead a detailed agenda for national renewal, a written commitment with no fine print.

This year’s election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.

Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act “with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.” To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.

By Filthy Godless Pinkos

October 10, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

RW: I tend to agree with RE and rushncrap on this issue, the liberals are always kicking a-ss up to the point where the votes are actually counted:

Kerry defeated Bush 53% to 46%, a lead outside the poll’s margin of error. North Carolina Sen. John Edwards edged Bush at 49%-48%, a statistical tie.

By getalife

October 10, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

I believe I can see the future Cause I repeat the same routine I think I used to have a purpose

But then again That might have been a dream I think I used to have a voice

Now I never make a sound I just do what I’ve been told I really don’t want them to come around

By Midori

October 10, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

ooooo. the tape measure thickens

By getalife

October 10, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

See the animal in it’s cage that you built Are you sure what side you’re on Better not look him too closely in the eye Are you sure what side of the glass you are on See the safety of the life you have built Everything where it belongs Feel the hollowness inside of your heart And it’s all Right where it belongs

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

There were 41% more Democrats polled than Republicans dumba-ss.

By Paul

October 10, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this

@@ at 11:43 Thanks for the Korea link. Your reaction to Kim Jong is spot on - reminds me of the tv-movie on Nuremburg trials - Alec Baldwin played the lead prosecutor. Discussion was how defendants looked so “ordinary” - that is where the “banality of evil” quote originated. Character asked Baldwin “what is evil?” (Good question for today). His answer - “The absense of empathy.”

Anyone who would treat his own countrymen like that would do far worse to others.

Article in Newsweek, I believe, during Pres Bush’s first term. Reporter asked him about Kim Jong - Pres responded “I loathe Kim Jong Il.” Amazing for a world leader to use language like that. Same article that reference when Pres Bush wanted info on N Korea, background on political prisoner camps, satellites made pass over one of the camps. Had to send back over several times - kept having to back off the area - turned out the “prison” was about the size of Washington DC.

By getalife

October 10, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

Top blogs

By Thomas

October 10, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

Pathetic!

Absolutly Pathetic!

Bush’s Cow-Boy diplomacy strikes again, and now a Rogue State dictator has Nukes!

Bush’s administration is absolutly incompetent when it comes to world affairs, environmental issues, our constitutional rights, the economy, and without a doubt they are absolutly pathetic at diplomacy.

When a Super-Power nation goes aggressive against smaller countries such as Iraq without a clear reason for such an invasion, then the world see’s us as a threat to each and every country. They compare the expansion of our “empire” (into other nations) to the very same acts of Hitler as he expanded into other nations with intent to dominate the world. This unfortunatly leads ambitious nations the oppourtunity to claim they must develop such WMD’s to protect themselves from the aggressive invaders and empire builders.

And even more pathetic - is the Bush-Bots and Kool-aid kiddies now trying to say this mess is Clinton’s fault. What a laugh! They point fingers at Clinton while the enemies of the USA gain more ground in the world arena during the Republicans incompetence as world leaders.

We are now seeing this incompetence (under their watch) being played out in world news everywhere. Yes they can point all the fingers they want to but the world knows which President and his administration was on duty when a dictator name Kim Jong became the possesor of the ultimate weapon of Mass Destruction.

I can assure you - It won’t be Clinton that the world will blame for this!

Again - History will not be kind to this President and his co-horts!

Thomas

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this

RW, there were more Democrats polled because, follow me closely, there are ~more registered Democrats than Republicans in this country~. Is any of this getting through to you? That means that if you take a random sample of people in this country you will get more Democrats than Republicans! Your idiotic “there were more Democrats polled” is like whining that more white people than black people were polled, and calling it racism. Get a clue.

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

Thomas: history - hell. The present day is not kind to this President either. If history was the biggest of his worries, he’d be doing fabulously compared to the way he’s doing now.

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, li’l andy, here’s something that will put a little frown on your snout: Michigan decided to teach science rather than religion. Awwww, too bad.

By Midori

October 10, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

sigh

where oh where would the wingnuts be without Newsbusters?

that paragon of journalistic integrity that kept trying to push the “democrats leaked the foley story”?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

Yeah, RW, I see. It’s too bad you don’t know math, though. It could help you in your everyday life. The poll that had even numbers of Republicans and Democrats was the one that was skewed. According to the link I gave you (which you either did not look at or did not understand) there are 34% more Democrats than Republicans in this country. Or there were in 2000. That means that any honest, unbiased poll will have 34% more Democrats in it than Republicans. If you had gone to high school, you might figure out that simple statistic. Therefore the poll with 41% more Dems than Reps is actually more fair than the one with 1% more Dems than Reps.

I’m glad to see you’ve located the CAPS lock key on your keyboard, however. Baby steps, RW, baby steps.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

Finally someone makes a truthful campaign ad

By Randy

October 10, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

Lets all leave Midori alone. Don’t ask her any questions that might distract her from her autoerotic activities.

Midori, please don’t tell me what tool your holding. I for one don’t care to know.

Kinda touchy aren’t you?

Nevermind. Forget I asked.

By Dusty

October 10, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Ha rushncap,

I just took a poll and it was 100% Republican. How about that? They were all registered voters, too.

As Gertrude S. would say, A poll is a poll is a poll. Just pick your people and you get what you want.

We know what you want, rushie, in your war against Bush. We don’t even have to take a poll. Don’t bother to count. Just announce the “poll figures” every morning. You’ll have a liberal “win” with 100% against the president in the rushie “poll”.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Even if “Cheesecake” is right about the numbers then their is a blatant bias to the WaPo/ABC poll. If that renowned source “Cheesecake” is correct then they deliberately did a skewed poll a month ago so they could present the illusion that support was dropping. I don’t really think “Cheesecake” has too much credibility since you keep losing elections, but keep in mind that “Cheesecake’s” numbers came from before 9/11.

By bon scott

October 10, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

Not that anyone else needed it rushncap, but I’m sure glad you helped RW with his “statistics for dummies” lesson. And Midori is right (again). Newsbusters has the credibility and the math savvy of a hamster.

By Thomas

October 10, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

LOL —

Wow - so let me get this straight!

RW and Dusty believe that there has been no decline whatsoever in Republican support after recent events like Foley, North Korea, etc?? They believe that the Religeous Right (their power base) is fine with the Foley thing?

I take it you 2 haven’t been to Florida lately - try talking with the God Fearing Right wingers there and see how they really feel… I think you would be very surprised.

laughing again

By getalife

October 10, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

Rove’s big plan is to blame Clinton for the idiots like Andy, RW, etc..

Hillary showing some balls.

By RE

October 10, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this

RW, Funny video. Can’t comment on the accuracy, but funny

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

RE,

I was using a little hyperbole with the “accurate” part, but it is funny.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

Thomas,

I’m in the 4th district of Georgia. I can assure you that no recent events have changed the landscape of the coming elections that I have any say in.

By Filthy Godless Liberals

October 10, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

Bonus cartoon that doesn’t suck!

Look, REbot, the students at Columbia rioted so that they could silence a Conservative speaking about immigration.

Just in case you wonder.

By @@

October 10, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

Gosh getalife. I hope Hillary isn’t borrowing Billy’s balls. The ones he thought he had during the eight years of Kim Jong’s deception.

Madeline Albright splitting her bi-tches.

Funny stuff.

By Political Foreskin

October 10, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Yeah, it’s so funny, I just pinched a radioactive loaf, man. Maybe you think it’s funny if the N. Koreans nuke Pearl Harbor, but I dont. Lets see, whose watch did Kim Jung Il conduct the nuke test on? Gee, I cant think of anyone…nobody comes to mind, I dont know, could it be…. THE CHIMP!!!!!!!!

By Midori

October 10, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

Pyongyang threatened to pull out of the nuclear deal

The US Government has announced that it will release $95m to North Korea as part of an agreement to replace the Stalinist country’s own nuclear programme, which the US suspected was being misused.

Under the 1994 Agreed Framework an international consortium is building two proliferation-proof nuclear reactors and providing fuel oil for North Korea while the reactors are being built.

In releasing the funding, President George W Bush waived the Framework’s requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original reactors.

President Bush argued that the decision was “vital to the national security interests of the United States”.

yeah. right.

the “security” of the united states.

I’m surprised the moron didn’t invade thailand.

By RE

October 10, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this

1st admendment rights cover only governmental censorship. You can boycot the dixiechicks, yell at Ann Coulter, say Gore’s movie is crap, ask Bill O’Rielly for a loofa…all protected. Including shouting down a guest speaker at a University.

For the record, I think the kids at columbia were in the wrong with thier actions…and generally with thier views as well. If they caused a disturbance of the peace, they should be held to account

By Cindy

October 10, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

They don’t want to be accountable for 9/11 and they don’t want to be accountable for N. Korea. Their accountability for Iraq is “mission accomplished”. The the cowboy neocons just want to swagger and point fingers. We need some real leadership.

By Paul

October 10, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

Just had a good laugh - thought some of you could use one, too.

Just heard on NPR (a station you don’t have to guess the political leanings of) that latest polling data(sorry, didn’t get the source, but their programs repeat every few hours) shows - get this - Pres Bush has a higher approval rating than Congress.

Now there’s something to think about. Ever wonder how those guys and gals get a 95 percent reelection rate?

By bon scott

October 10, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

Funny! Drunken Andy and his “Democratic Party Homophobia” rant!

It’s the GOP family values types who are sharpening the knives.

Tony Perkins, head of the reich-wing Family Research Council makes that clear in the group’s newsletter, “Washington Update”.

Perkins is essentially accusing gay GOP staffers of willfully sabotaging the gay marriage amendment while greasing the skids for its own hate-crimes legislation. Perkins doesn’t offer an explanation as to how non-gay members of Congress could be bamboozled to the point that they’d go along with legislative moves that would weaken their position with conservative voters.

Creeps. Have another drink, Andy.

By Thomas

October 10, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

Well thats nice RW —

So - Your in your ivory tower away from the Foley debacle hiding in the 4th district. Such a great view of Florida Politics from that white tower isn’t it?

Lets detail a bit…

1) Foley (Florida Senator)

2) Foley (trusted by the Religeous Right of Florida)

3) Florida (very populous state that finally decided the Dubya’ Presidential election)

4) Foley & Friends (Found to be untrustworthy by the Florida Religeous Right and fallen from grace, and resigned)

5) Election Day Cometh’ in Florida with the smell of corruption and scandal in the air.

Now I ask you? How many seats does Florida currently have?

What does the Georgia 4th District have to do with Florida politics?

What did your reply have to do with my original assessment and statement about Florida politics?

No - You are correct - Your district has no worries about Florida. I guess the Republicans nationwide can ignore Florida politics as well. After all - they are absolutly un-important to your 4th district landscape.

Cheers Thomas

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

Every one of the problems you point to existed in the 1990’s. Can you explain why none of them were fixed?

By Tired of BS

October 10, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

Lets get back to the real scandal - the congressional coverup of a KNOWN pedophile!

This is far worse than the clinton indiscretion - He basically gets raped by a horned-up, slutty, homewrecker - and the whole world wants him out of office - when reports clearly show he wasn’t the aggressor.

Meanwhile Foley is AGGRESSIVELY pursuing young boys for over ten years with PERMISSION from the GOP congress - has admittedly had sex with several of them. And REPUBS PROTECT HIM!

These kids barely have hair on their field, have posters of Tom Brady on their walls, and are awed by these powerful congressmen who abuse theri power and come on to them!

God only knows how many young girls have been attacked by Hastert and his ilk!

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

You would think an obvious gay blade like finchie wouldn’t have such homophobia. Maybe it’s that self-loathing that Billy Jeff used to talk about.

By RE

October 10, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

Oh Midori…Trying to bring little things like facts into the discussion is of no use.

It is Clinton’s fault remember, if he had not put those protections in place, GWB would not have had to waive them.

I still blame china

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

RW, I gave you one source. You don’t believe Cheesecake? Well, find better numbers. It’s well known that there are more registered Democrats than Republicans in the U.S. I gave you one set of numbers, I’m sure there are more. The point is, you are either not understanding what I’m saying, or you are understanding what I’m saying but hate the fact that I’m right. Either way, RW, sucks to be you.

Dusty, honey, don’t get into this big, scary world of mathematics and poll taking. Stay closer to what you know: mopping the kitchen, typing on blogs. It will do everyone good.

By RE

October 10, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this

Thomas, you seem to be from florida, any word on the Charlie Crist- Mark Foley connection

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this

Thomas,

I said that there has been no change in any election I can vote in. Your original sniping was at Dusty and myself, neither of which had said a word about Florida. Why don’t you type a few thousand more meaningless words?

Hint for you, over at Wooten’s there is no limit. You can go over there and give us a personal rundown of each and every Florida voter and the Thomas analysis of their thoughts.

By Huge

October 10, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

Having lived in Georgia for a long while, I have noted that there has never been a shortage of embarrassing politicans from the peach state. We’ve certainly had some real doozies in the past, from both parties.

Although I’ve not yet made up my mind on the governor’s race, I must say that the letter to the editor in today’s AJC from our esteemed governor is damn near mortifying.

He starts his unseemly tirade by referring to comments made in the freaking sports page!! He apparently got hit in the head way too many times while trying to play football at UGA.

With a student-athlete graduation rate near the very bottom in all of Div. 1-A, you’d think he’d do more than b*** about some sports writer ragging on his overrated alma matre’s loss to Tennessee.

He goes on to further embarrass himself by saying that other newspapers don’t do this in regards to local sports, events, etc. I’d believe him, if I thought he had actually read another newspaper in his life. Apparently he has not.

My god! His name probably makes a lot of people in other parts of the country chuckle, but this?! Sadly for us, his constituents, it is yet another example of how our local politicans make the entire state look like a bunch of fools.

Maybe he’ll follow the lead of some of the morons here and start complaining about the political cartoons next…

By Political Foreskin

October 10, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

RW, the focus of your commentary should be the sunni/shia split. Have you googled the difference? Is it just a dispute over the line of succession from the prophet Mohammed? Or is it a complex set of ethnic and sectarian rivalries that devolved over the millenia and for which there is no military solution?

For someone with a really big mouth, and for someone who feels entitled to swing at everything and everyone (to our total delight btw), on this blog, you know virtually nothing about THE issue of the current millenia, the “grand ideological struggle” as Bush mispronounces and miscategorizes it.

I strongly urge you, sir, to read more. Much more. Then wait about six years and try to digest it all, and then blog.

Otherwise, stfu, you loquacious dandy, you.

Just methin wid ja. ;)

By ohnoyoudidnt

October 10, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this

Shock and awe in Baghdad.

Ammo depot on fire.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

I don’t doubt there are more registered Democrats, although not the Cheesecake numbers.

The one that doesn’t understand is as usual you. You can’t honestly do two polls a month apart with that big a difference in your sample and then use the results to claim a trend. It really doesn’t matter which one is closer to reality, it’s a very dishonest way to do polling and/or reporting.

By Political Foreskin

October 10, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this

You see, RW, the Sunni arabs and the Shia arabs who live in Iraq have ethnic liasons with tribes across all the borders of Iraq in every direction all the way to China, man. The idea that we can send an army to disentangle that network is beyond preposterous, it’s evil.

We have slit our own throats, and Cheney is the rusty bolo knife, and you , sir, have been duped by your own party. You are the most blithely unnaware commenter I’ve ever read…….EVER!)

RW, you know less than nothing about politics, history, geo-politics, geo-history.

I mean, it’s not even funny. It’s just that you’re an average Joe, with average abilities, and a mediocre mind.

I’m sure you mean well.

By ohnoyoudidnt

October 10, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this

Oops, forgot to blame Bill.

Shock and awe in Baghdad.

Ammo depot on fire!

Bill Clinton’s fault.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

Polly Prepuce,

GAZE>

By Dusty

October 10, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

When you grow up to be a big boy and outgrow lab assistant jobs, you may find that you are not the genius you think you are.

Polls are about as dependable as the weather. Pollsters love to make predictions but it doesn’t always happen like they say.

But don’t let me burst your bubble. Having to clean up the lab every day is not a fun job. We will try to excuse your absolute lack of consideration for anyone and your boring self generated esteem.

By Thomas

October 10, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this

RE -

I have lived in Metro Atlanta over 10 years now.

I lived in Florida many years, have many friends in Florida (both Repub and Dem) - and I have family in Florida, so I get a lot of news from all parties concerned.

No word on Charlie Crist connection really -

I’m sure it is added to the fire as well..but probably not that big of an issue.

You have to understand that outside of the Foley debacle that the next big issue for Florida voters seems to be Abramof. Good ol’ Abe— is their biggest gossip piece after his involvement in that (Miami Sub’s/SunCruise) Gus murder. Miami and Mob stories go hand in hand down there and it is the general gossip of the town.

Should be some interesting political shifts this year down there.. And Gov Bush hasn’t been on everybodys Christmas list after the serious lack of tourism dollar the last few years. Check their budget woes and be glad you are in Georgia!

Laters all - Time to get into a traffic Jam for my night-time entertainment.

Thomas

By getalife

October 10, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

Damn, I stubbed my toe.

Clinton’s fault.

By RE

October 10, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

Ruchncap, please understand, Dusty does not believe in Statistics. But then she does not believe in Biology, Geology, Palentology, astrophysics, or Climateology either.

And she is pretty sure a small gnome lives inside her fridge and turns the light on and off when she opens the door

By Filthy Godless Liberals

October 10, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this

We all owe finchie a big round of thanks.

He didn’t come home this afternoon from his slavish low paying menial dead end job and start jacking everybody’s names.

Like he usually does.

Thank you finchie!

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this

RW, so what you are telling us, is that WaPo called people not at random, but those on its speed dial? Sigh…. RW, I do with I knew as little as you did. Would make life so much easier.

Dusty, I’m not a genius. I’m just a genius compared to you. Then again, so are most 4th graders, so I’m not saying it puts me in an elite company. I know enough to know that I know almost nothing. And I know enough to know that you know far less than that.

By @@

October 10, 2006 06:30 PM | Link to this

Getalife suffers from toe jam. Eeeewwwwwww.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Obviously you don’t know the first thing about polling so this is lost on you, but I’ll explain for others.

They don’t just call people randomly and then report the results regardless of how many Republicans, Democrats, and Independents they reach. They either call enough more people to get to the samples they have selected in advance or they weight the results to achieve what they have decided in advance should be the polls breakdown.

In this case they have obviously decided to make the sample of Democrats larger in the second poll so that they can report that there is a trend away from Republicans.

If there is a true shift in support then polls with the very same sample sizes should show that.

By getalife

October 10, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

Oops, Condi forgot to blame Clinton.

Rove will be p**, get with the program Condi.

Shees.

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this

Hahaha, oh yes, RW, and a month ago they made the sample of Democrats too small because last month WaPo’s agenda was diametrically opposed to this month’s agenda.

I’ll leave you to your conspiracy theories. I’m sure there are enough right-wing cooks for you to discuss them with without wasting more of my time on them.

By Buy Danish

October 10, 2006 06:42 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

I stand by my 10:45. It includes a very basic statement about human nature and IDEAL standards of behavior that is common sense to most people (as long as they aren’t Liberal Democrats who subscribe to the “Don’t you dare judge me” code of ethics.)

Foley has resigned. If it it ascertained by the Justice Department that he engaged in illegal activity he will be prosecuted accordingly. So be it.

What we object to is the manufactured outrage over a situation that pales in comparison to similar situations with Democrat politicians who didn’t resign and worse, were virtually hailed as heroes for their despicable behavior.

As for William Jefferson Clinton, he has never accepted responsibility for his actions and still blames conspiring Republicans - not unlike people who blame Ronald Reagan for AIDS.

If nothing else, Billy Jeff owes the American people an apology for lying to a Federal Grand Jury and for trashing the White House by using the Oval Office as ground zero for his trysts with “that woman” who was under his employ while pretending to “work hard for the American people”.

Surely if he can apologize for slavery, he could manage to take responsibility for SOMETHING that HE did. There’s a very, very long list and he injured many more people than his wife and daughter - the entire nation was affected and we are still suffering the consequences.

The American people are a most forgiving bunch. Clinton could have asked for forgiveness and expressed sincere remorse for his actions. Instead he chose defiance. Apparently he is sociopathically incapable of recognizing his own bad acts, and despite the eternal spin machine, “consensual sex” is not the issue.

In our culture, redemption and forgiveness are reserved for those who admit their transgressions - no matter what religious beliefs one does or does not subscribe to.

Unless one has no standards whatsoever, or is an Ethical Humanist, in which case - anything goes.

By Collin

October 10, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

When it comes to b*****, you liberals need to make up your mind. Do you favor Clinton’s or Kim Jong’s?

One can kill a politician, the other can reap mass destruction.

It’s apparent the latter possibility escaped you and Clinton on both fronts. Iraq & North Korea. Iran watches.

I’d prefer they suffer the consequences from a determined foe, not a failed snake charmer like Clinton.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 06:54 PM | Link to this

That’s the first time I’ve heard the rushcap theory of chefs being a right wing conspiracy. Are these “cooks” you speak of slipping you Hunt’s ketchup instead of Heinz?

Dumba-ss, when you want to show a trend based on two polls and the trend doesn’t really exist you have to plan both polls in advance.

God you are ignorant.

By rushncap

October 10, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this

Danish, you can stay by, next to, behind, or anywhere else with relation to your statement. If a Democrat did what Foley did, there would be outrage, you can bet on that. The point is, it’s NOT Democrats who keep on getting caught doing immoral and illegal things. Some are Democrats, of course, but all of the major ones (Foley, the Dukester, DeLay, the list goes on) are Republicans. So yes, there is outrage. And you’d be spitting bile and venom if the Democrats were to do half the stuff that the Republicans have done.

As for Clinton, he does not owe you, me, or anyone but his family an apology for a private, sexual relationship with a consenting adult. The grand jury was a witchhunt, and had absolutely no business asking questions about who the President was having sex with, or why. If Bush were to nail an intern or 2 I’d joke about, but I would not care. If he lied about nailing an intern or 2 I wouldn’t care. You know what I care about? When he lies and then 3,000 American soldiers die for that lie. Clinton is an adult, he has a right to sleep with whoever it’s legal for him to sleep with. And yes, “consentual sex” is the one and only issue here.

And no, Danish, not anything goes. But you insist on whining and squealing any time something goes that you may not like. Deal with it like an adult.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 07:11 PM | Link to this

But Clinton said it wasn’t sex and that’s where he owes apologies to every man woman and child in this country. His deciding that he could hide behind a BJ not being actual sex just to save his sorry a-ss from a perjury charge, has led to rampant oral sex among our youth with all the attendant problems of self esteem, out of control STD’s etc.

Call it what you want, but I’ll call it Clinton’s legacy. Isn’t it great that in eight years all Clinton can take credit for is the advent of rainbow parties.

By RW-(the original)

October 10, 2006 07:15 PM | Link to this

Hey finchie,

Thanks for not jacking everyone’s name today for a change, you too Midori!

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