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By gadem
October 9, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this
Well,well,well…we have North Korea blasting off nukes and the GOP caught in a sex, lies, and cover-up scandel…What will Bush do? My bet is I think he will go on another vacation….
By rushncap
October 9, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this
How am ~I~ the first one to post on here?
By Edwin Williams
October 9, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this
How soon we forget that Ole Jimmy Carter with the blessing of “Bubba” Clinton negotiated the deal with the North Koreans which led to the debacle and that when Barney Frank and Gary Studds were caught in this same sort of sex scandal back in the early 1980s, both were reelected gladly with the blessings of the Democrat leadership and noone resigned. Ah liberal Democrat, the mirror has two faces and the hydra many heads.
By Paul
October 9, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this
If I was a left-wing hyperpartisan I’d raise my fist in the air and shout “yes!.” If I was a right-wing hyperpartisan I’d point my finger and say “Well, what about Democrat leaders who (fill in the blank).”
I’m a bit disappointed in this cartoon - perhaps his point was to illustrate how Republican Congressional leadership has pretty well mishandled this entire Foley case and - wait - this doesn’t specify Foley. It’s just Republican leadership in general. Well, I guess Mr. Luckovich has gone from illustrating Republicans in an ill light on specific issues to just casting them in an ill light in general. Maybe there aren’t any new issues that illustrate the concept - Foley and Iraq are getting repiticious. Or maybe he just wanted to get out early for the holiday weekend.
By I Report, You Whine
October 9, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this
More importantly, Prime Minister Maliki will have to use his bully pulpit to forge the broad political compromises that are essential to long-run peace. A key issue here is what to do with Iraq’s oil wealth. There has been a lot of talk about Sunni opposition to federalism, or strong regional governments. But the Sunnis are primarily worried that strong Kurdish and Shiite regions would hoard Iraq’s mineral resources; Sunnis would probably appreciate some autonomy in Anbar province if they were assured they wouldn’t be deprived of funds as a result.-OpinionJournal
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Needless to say, the Bush administration was blamed for not creating enough jobs to meet forecasts. The headlines about low job levels meant that administration’s economic policies, in particular tax cuts, were not working. With the new data, job creation exceeded the Administration forecast of 175,000 jobs per month in 2005. If the undercounting continues, the economy is well on its way also to exceed the 2006 job forecasts.-NYSun
From the Urinal “business” section on the same subject:
Jobs data worst in a year- But separate survey drops unemployment to 4.6%-AJC
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But how can you not get a chuckle out of Nancy Pelosi, she with her gay San Francisco constituency, running around like a headless chicken all because of consensual homosexual activity?!-TownHall
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this
With the second comment rushncap says:
{{{{{How am ~I~ the first one to post on here?}}}}}
Thus maintaining an unblemished record of never once having been right on this blog.
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
October 9, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this
We can parse out every element of former Republican Congressman Mark Foley’s behavior that sickens normal, decent Americans and find that these elements are today, in one form or another, a generally accepted part of everyday life in the country. We can thank liberals for this state of affairs, and these liberals are Democrats. In the world of the Democratic left, the only intolerance is intolerance.-TownHall
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In the wake of the Foley revelations, it is social conservatives who are taking the heat. This is entirely wrongheaded. If the Republicans do indeed lose the House, they will lose it because the party has capitulated too much to social liberalism.-RealClearPolitics
By getalife
October 9, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
D’oh indeed!
Best reality show on television.
The gop are so pathetic, they have become funnier than the Simpsons.
w is dumber than Homer and twice as drunk.
By bon scott
October 9, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this
Bush and the GOP ringmasters were hoping for something to push Foley off the front page.
They’ve got it. North Korea, and how the Bush administration’s policies pushed that unpredictable sociopath Kim Jong Il into the nuclear weapons club.
Oh, they would have had the bomb sooner or later, unless Kim has died or something. Make no mistake. But if it weren’t for Bush’s pig-headedness, it might not have happened until after he left office. Certainly not 29 days before the elections.
It’s also apparent that Bush was so obsessed with the phantom dangers posed by Iraq that he ignored far more serious threats posed by North Korea. And Iran.
Moran.
By gadem
October 9, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this
Andy and his daily drivel…Edwin Williams and his “You did it too” comeback…oh poor,poor neocons. See how the neocons scurry for cover when they are backed into a corner. No backbone (much like Andy)…The spin machine has been in overdrive since the news broke on Foley. Edwin the problem is not the crime but the cover up…but I am sure that the people that are doing the thinking for you have not told you that yet. Hastert or Fat B-a-s-t-a-r-d is a liar.
By w00t
October 9, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this
Yeah, we may be getting jobs, but what type of “jobs” are they? I’m willing to bet they’re minimal wage, no health care jobs at big box mart.
Oh, the poverty level is on the rise too.
Guess those 2% tax cuts for the poor and middle class are REALLY working… I mean, they keep up with the price of gas and inflation. Yeah, right.
Minimum wage for all!
By Paul
October 9, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this
Bon Scott: Please back up 5 years. Or ten. Or however many. And Bush (or Clinton, or Kerry, or anyone who did/might have occupied the White House) should not have “ignored the far more serious threats posed by North Korea” and should have done what, exactly? Seriously, I’d like to hear what could have/should have been done. Or, in Iran’s case (prior to testing a device) - should be done.
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this
I must be psychic. I had a cartoon comment on the old cartoon before the new cartoon was even posted. Here it is, in a slightly altered form:
[But as far as culpability in the Foley case, Mr. Dunn said, House Republicans may benefit from the evangelical conception of sin. Where liberals tend to think of collective responsibility, conservative Christians focus on personal morality. “The conservative Christian audience or base has this acute moral lens through which they look at this, and it is very personal,” Mr. Dunn said. “This is Foley’s personal sin.”] (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/09/us/politics/09conservatives.html?ei=5090&en=c1f50470c9270cce&ex=1318046400&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print)
Liberals, ML being one of them, believe in the tenet of “Collective responsiblility” -just like life on the commune.
Conservatives (and this does not require an Evangelical view) believe in “individual responsibility”.
Bonnie Scott Sybil,
You of all people are walking on thin ice when you complain about other people being “obsessed”.
Are we now to believe that Bush is delighted that North Korea took Foley off the front page? What policies do you recommend Bonnie Sybil? Unilateral talks with the sociopathic Communist tyrant?
Maybe Bush can grow a beard and pretend to be Sigmund Freud.
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
October 9, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this
By gadumb October 9, 2006 10:08 AM Andy and his daily drivel…Edwin Williams and his “You did it too” comeback…oh poor,poor neocons.
Welcome aboard the anti Man/Boy Love bandwagon!!
I knew you pinko liberals would come round to seeing things the way Pat Robertson and I do.
Would you now like to tell us about the evils of “Sponge Bob Square Pants” also?
Or listen to Pat’s sermon on the “Teletubbies?”
Preach to us, gadumb, tell us the evils of homosexuals preying on children as we’ve told you for years.
Can I get an Amen?
By gadem
October 9, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this
BD, is that in anyway similar to the collective responsibility that your party labeled the democrats with after the Clinton sex scandel? Don’t try and be a forgiving Christian when it suits you, it makes you out to be more of a hypocrite…
By gadem
October 9, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this
Andy still in your warped little mind, homosexuality=pedophilia….they are different. That is like saying Republican=Racists they are different aren’t they?????
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
I’m not sure “took Foley off the front PAGE” is the best choice of words.
This does show a contrast though, all the Democrats can do is try to magnify a case of human failing into a full blown (probably my contribution to the bad choice of words) national scandal, while Republicans try to work to install and test missile defense and work with our allies to address Iran and North Korea all the while establishing beacons of hope in the Middle East.
Your choice on November 7th comes down to substance or show. If you want substance you will vote Republican in 2006, but in 2008 it’s time to get some real conservatives to challenge the sitting Republicans in the primaries.
By DebbieDoRight
October 9, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this
How soon we forget that Ole Jimmy Carter with the blessing of “Bubba” Clinton negotiated the deal with the North Koreans which led to the debacle and that when Barney Frank and Gary Studds were caught in this same sort of sex scandal back in the early 1980s
Brief points: The N. Korean deal back in the 90’s had nothing to do with the build up of nuclear weapons today. Please read your history notes.
Barney Franks’ scandal involved a consenting adult. Twenty years ago there was a Republican President when the Studds scandal broke out, why didn’t the Republican President put a stop to the exploitation of the children then? (You see, fingers can point in either direction).
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
Deranged Moron, I just searched everything I could think of and could not find EVEN ONE Democrat that is FOR homosexuals preying on kids.
I found an enormous number that are AGAINST adults preying on children…
Can you please show me one example? As they say…PUT up or SHUT up!!
By Pinkos Of Appeasement
October 9, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
Hey Honu, you see David Warren this week?:
The matter came up because the head of a police union (Michel Toomis of Action Police) had appealed to the French government to supply his members with armoured cars, to patrol certain Muslim neighbourhoods. Among other things, he mentioned that, “We are in a state of civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists. This is not a question of urban violence any more, it is an intifada, with stones and Molotov cocktails.”
Interesting, the supreme pinko apologists need armored cars in their own country.
I thought this appeasement was supposed to turn the Islamic Murderers into gentle loving angels of mercy??
Why do the American pinkos keep on^^ like they do, even after seeing the failures of others?
Makes you wonder about their true motives.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this
gadem,
There was no demand for “collective responsibility” because of Clinton. When Billy Jeff lied under oath and obstructed justice to deny an American citizen their day in court HE was impeached. Nobody demanded that Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Schumer, and so on resign.
By gadem
October 9, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this
RW do you mean substance as in what this do-nothing congress has been not doing for the past 6 years
By rushncap
October 9, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this
Danish, we’re not thinking that the whole of the Republican party is responsible for Foley. But when Republican after Republican after Republican after Republican keeps getting into ethics trouble for everything from insider trading to sex scandals to bribery, that’s called a pattern. And voters are starting to see that pattern. And, hopefully, in a few weeks they will help cleanse Washington a bit.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
gadem,
Make up your mind whether this Congress has ruined the world as we know it, torn down our Constitution and taken away our rights as citizens or if they’ve done nothing.
Freaking hysteritics!
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
RW,
I was just quoting Bonnie Scott!
Gadem,
I’m just reading the New York Times, dude. That’s where I got the brilliant analogy.
If Republicans blamed Democrats “collectively” it would be because Clinton did not accept personal responsibility, perjured himself in front of a Federal Grand Jury, did not resign, blamed it on a vast right wing conspiracy, and the Dems “collectively” all cheered him on with a chorus of “It’s just about sex!”.
Contrast that with Foley who immediately resigned…for sending IM messages to an adult former Page, AND the fact that no one is condoning Foley’s behavior or cheering him on.
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
Rushncap,
“The Culture of corruption” is a losing platform, but if you want to run with it, feel free.
By gadem
October 9, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this
Well RW since you want to act brain dead like a typical neocon, I will be more specific…They have done nothing positive!…is that better for you. Please name me some positives that they have done besides rubber stamping everything that the President has done.
And BD is was just about sex…it was a personal matter between consenting adults. Not an adult and a juvenile…I doubt anyone would cheer Foley on, but I would support him because he needs help. That would be the Christian thing to do…right?!?!?
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this
BD,
Thanks for the advice…now some for the cons.
Let’s see, in November the cons can run on their record of fiscal responsibility…
Or, they can run on Iraq (creating more and more terrorists everyday while earning us worldwide disrespect and costing the taxpayers billions a week…)
Or, on the ‘War on Terror…’ Ever so slowly allowing the Taliban to reassert itself and ignoring Pakistan’s complicity.
Or, on moral leadership…(Ooops!)
Or, on competence…(Ooops!)
Or, on the foreign policy success in Iran…(Ooops!)
Or, on the success deterring North Korea…(Ooops!)
Crap, I give up, oh well, mayber the CONS should just spread some lies about how the Democrats want to wait until another terrorist attack…Yup, there’s our winner.
When you GOT NUTHIN…You just make up BS!
By DebbieDoRight
October 9, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this
Clinton’s lying about having sex is worse than lying about nuclear arms? It was worse than lying about the reason we went to war? WOW!! It must be real cool to live in CrazyLand!
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
October 9, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this
By gadem October 9, 2006 10:33 AM Andy still in your warped little mind, homosexuality=pedophilia….they are different.
I thought these liberals never read my posts??
By Lord Help Us October 9, 2006 10:43 AM I just searched everything I could think of and could not find EVEN ONE Democrat that is FOR homosexuals preying on kids. As they say…PUT up or SHUT up!!
Oh, yeah?
The ACLU has taken up the defense of the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) in a civil suit filed by Mr. and Mrs. Robert Curley.
Hah, I don’t have to shut up.
One week man/boy love is a free speech issue, the next week it’s an eternal soul forfeiting sin worthy of all of hell’s worst fire and brimstone.
I got an idea, how about if you pinkos published a list every week of what we can and can not do, you know, what’s acceptable under your high moral standards?
Or would we need to publish a list every day to keep track of your changes?
By Richard Brandt
October 9, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
The story about the two teenage brothers who tortured and baked a puppy, has me needing to speak. I want to speak to the parents more than anyone, but everyone in Atlanta should talk to the parents. Yes the children did it, but the parents formed the children. There is much that needs to be dealt with now before the kids do these type of things to your children or grandchildren. If it’s not already too late. The parents in this case need to be dealt with also. Richard Brandt Wake Forest, NC
By Liberal Texas Democrat
October 9, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
Summary: James Dobson and Daniel Henninger both echoed a claim previously made by Matt Drudge and Michael Savage that the sexually explicit communications that Rep. Mark Foley allegedly engaged in with former congressional pages were “sort of a joke” or a “prank” on the part of the former pages. While Foley may have immediately resigned, according to some, Republicans would rather blame the kids. In the opinion of others it’s not about Clinton, or even Foley. It’s about what they feel is Republican leaders not responding appropriately when informed of Foley’s shenanigans.
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this
Sorry, you pitiful little morphodite. But, you will still have to SHUT UP…Or provide a link/proof beyond some delusional, wingnut propagand site that mentions the ACLU. Unless the KKK speaks for the Republican party, the ACLU does not speak for the Democratic party.
Man, you are one pathetic loser…(with apologies to Jim Carrey)
By who_really_cares_anyway?
October 9, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
RW… Talk about elevating a human failure into a full blown national scandal. This is where the good old neocons excel….
How about that good ol’ blue dress??? Talk about personal failings becoming political fodder! Wasted time and money to go after a man who was less than honest about being with another woman! Tell me, what man in his right mind would readily admit-not only to his wife-but the public in general-his infidelity.
The repugnicans are merely reaping what they have sown…At least Clinton’s choice was a consenting adult!
By rushncap
October 9, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
Danish, so far the “culture of corruption” platform seems to be losing… for the Republicans. Hell, it’s probably the better of the platforms you got. You sure as hell don’t want to be running on Iraq. If you think the corruption is a disaster for you….
By who_really_cares_anyway?
October 9, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this
Anyone who truly believes that ANYONE is “for” pedophilia shouldn’t be allowed to breathe-that is just how ignorant and stupid they are.
Pedophilia does NOT equal homosexuality. Liberalism does NOT equal ‘Godlessness’ or immorality.
If you cannot possibly argue the point without stooping to “liberalpinkosareidiots” then you really need to go off and find some stronger meds.
I am really through reading the filth that passes for ‘posts’ by some of the pitiful souls who really have no other meaning in their lives than to post garbage.
Over and out. for good.
By bon scott
October 9, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this
By RW-(the aboriginal) - October 9, 2006 10:35 AM - This does show a contrast though, all the Democrats can do is try to magnify a case of human failing into a full blown (probably my contribution to the bad choice of words) national scandal…
Actually, it’s the Republicans who are hurting their own party over this scandal. Their reaction has been to accuse eachother of apathy, ignorance and stonewalling.
Uncontrolled political cannibalization. Democrats sit in the stands and grin.
A casualty of the Mark Foley cyberspace sex scandal is the once-close relationship between Illinois Republicans Rep. John Shimkus and House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert.
Moreover, Hastert’s team, by asking Shimkus to appear at a press conference with the speaker in Washington last Monday — but not letting him take questions — made a bad situation for Shimkus worse.
“I am now,” said Shimkus when we talked last week, “a little jaded.”
Jaded?? How about paranoid??
A very cautious Shimkus taped our phone conversation and said it was now his standard operating procedure for all of his interviews.
Democrats are now an afterthought to the GOP leadership, which is too busy dodging knife thrusts from other Republicans, who themselves are consumed with watching their own backs.
And then there are the voters.
Popcorn, anyone?
By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag
October 9, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this
By Lord Help Us October 9, 2006 11:37 AM Sorry, you pitiful little morphodite. But, you will still have to SHUT UP…Or provide a link/proof beyond some delusional, wingnut propagand site that mentions the ACLU. Unless the KKK speaks for the Republican party, the ACLU does not speak for the Democratic party.
Eeewwww, aren’t we upset.
Actually, I think the KKK speaks for the democratic party, see Robert Byrd for clarification.
Your link:
ACLU Statement on Defending Free Speech of Unpopular Organizations-ACLU WEBSITE
Oh, so this week the liberals aren’t associated with the ACLU, that’s nice.
All those parades, court cases, newspaper columns and speeches from politicians were just a big misunderstanding right?
We can all get together this December and sing Christmas Carols at our neighborhood public school, eh, great, I’ll see you there.
Merry Christmas!!
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this
wrc_a?,
The blue dress was an outgrowth of an investigation where 15 Clintonistas were convicted of felonies. You making believe that it started and ended with Billy Jeff’s bj doesn’t make it so.
By Filthy Godless Liberals
October 9, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this
By whoreallycares_anyway? October 9, 2006 11:43 AM I am really through reading the filth that passes for ‘posts’ by some of the pitiful souls who really have no other meaning in their lives than to post garbage. Over and out. for good.
Promise?
By RE
October 9, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this
Please, someone pass this on to GWB;
pen‧in‧su‧la Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation: puh-nin-suh-luh
nu‧cle‧ar Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation: noo-klee-er
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
Gadem,
Correction: The facts as we know it in the Foley case so far show that there was no contact with a “juvenile” with the exception of the email to the Lousiana Page, which was not explicit - just weird.
The IMs were with adults - FORMER Pages.
Foley resigned. Clinton didn’t. Can you explain the difference to me?
By getalife
October 9, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this
Reading the blogs today are too funny.
The wingnuts have lost on all issues but they keep spewing.
Oh, the hypocrisy.
Hilarious.
By Spike
October 9, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this
Don’t know why everyone’s freaking out about N.Korea. It was entirely predictable. It was also entirely predictable/knowledgeable that the Iraqis had no interest whatever in “democracy,” have always hated the U.S. and West. Never ever gonna accept democracy. Yet we’re gonna shove it down their throats at the point of a gun. Could never work, should never work. Busy for thousands of years hating & slaughtering each other. Yet the drunken maniac Bush thought he’d gain a bit of fame by invading. His mighty army can’t even defeat a group of untrained civilians. His father before him assembled a huge coalition which fought against…nothing and no one. Tanks rolling thru the countryside, opposed by no one and nothing. And the troops were called “heroes.” And “Victory Parades” were held endlessly over that great farce. Now drunken Bush and the Republiscum will use N. Korea as “Now we need experienced men in Congress - who can work in these dangerous times with an experienced wartime (Oh Geesuss!) president.” The chimp is experienced in boozing, lying, being AWOL, being technically a deserter. Stand proud all you Repugs. It’s getting better and better. The Chinese have for 50 years called the U.S. a “paper tiger.” They are correct. What else, with the election of putridity like the Chimp. Amazing stuff.
By Filthy Godless Liberals
October 9, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this
Finally!
Today’s cartoon that doesn’t suck!
Columbus Day new cartoon slowdown, I guess.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this
Sybil bon finchie,
Any Republican stupid enough to take advice from you deserves to lose and spend time as your roommate next time you check in to the sanitarium.
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this
Whew, you don’t even know how stupid you are…your own link contradicts your delusional rantings…’Our Massachusetts affiliate does not advocate sexual relationships between adults and children.’
Thanks for clearing that up. Guess you and the other stupid people will have to stop using that reference now…Naw, doesn’t matter if it’s true, just keep repeating…
Now, back to the original challenge (remember..PUT up or SHUT up): ‘could not find EVEN ONE Democrat that is FOR homosexuals preying on kids. I found an enormous number that are AGAINST adults preying on children…Can you please show me one example?
Now, stop obfuscating, you wretched little morphodite, or someone might think you can’t handle a challenge…
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this
Tex,
If the FORMER pages were playing a prank on Foley, are they helpless “victims”? We’re not “blaming the kids” but there is a difference.
Right????
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this
BD,
My opinion…Foley resigned because he knows (and only he knows) what else is out there to find once people start coming forward and start digging IM archives.
If ALL there were are ‘overly friendly’ emails with an adult then WHY do YOU think he resigned?
By Filthy Godless Liberals
October 9, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
By Lord Help Us October 9, 2006 12:07 PM Our Massachusetts affiliate does not advocate sexual relationships between adults and children.
Sucker: That’s the exact same thing Republicans say.
But yet YOU keep on like it isn’t true.
I don’t see Republicans standing in courtrooms defending the man/ boy lovers like the ACLU does.
Dimwit.
By Filthy Godless Liberals
October 9, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this
We all know what the ACLU “says” now.
So let’s have a look at what they DO:
NAMBLA is “not just publishing material that says it’s OK to have sex with children and advocating changing the law,” says Larry Frisoli, a Cambridge attorney who is arguing the Curleys case in federal court. NAMBLA, he says, “is actively training their members how to rape children and get away with it. They distribute child pornography and trade live children among NAMBLA members with the purpose of having sex with them.”
And look at who sticks up for them^^^, yes you LHU.
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this
Hey Stupid, I don’t see Democrats standing in a courtroom defending adults that prey on children…if you cant’ find a Democrat doing this then…
PUT up or SHUT up, stupid…
By RE
October 9, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this
So against better judgement, I clicked on Andy’s little cartoon choice today. What was the point of that cartoon? No US soldiers on the DNC website? Maybe you should check to see vets running for congress, plenty of uniforms there. Funny thing is almost everyone of them are running as a democrat
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this
Looks like the Republicans and the KKK are more closely linked than I thought…
In 1996 Perkins paid former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke $82,500 for his mailing list. At the time, Perkins was the campaign manager for a right-wing Republican candidate for the US Senate in Louisiana. The Federal Election Commission fined the campaign Perkins ran $3,000 for attempting to hide the money paid to Duke.
Ouch, baby, very ouch…(with apologies to Austin Powers)
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this
RE,
The DNC had a Canadian soldier’s picture up on their “we support the troops” page. They finally got around to replacing the Canadian soldier with an American flag.
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this
Hey Stupid,
Do you think Foley should have resigned?
C’mon how ‘bout a straight (pardon the pun) answer just this once…
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this
LHU,
It would help if you kept up with the news. The lastest “revelation” is that Foley did have sex with a FORMER page when he was 21 - and the sex did not take place in the halls of Congress or the White House.
Monica? Not a FORMER intern. 21.
Can you explain the difference?
By getalife
October 9, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this
Help Congressman Foley protect our children!
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this
Man, once the lies start, the Deranged Moron can’t stop.
Okay, now find any reference where I am defending the ACLU.
PUT up or SHUT up…
By gttim
October 9, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this
Seriously, I’d like to hear what could have/should have been done.
ou did what CLinton did in 1194, that kept the nuke facilities shut until 2002. You use diplomacy. Bush owns this debacle.
If Republicans blamed Democrats “collectively” it would be because Clinton did not accept personal responsibility, perjured himself in front of a Federal Grand Jury, did not resign, blamed it on a vast right wing conspiracy, and the Dems “collectively” all cheered him on with a chorus of “It’s just about sex!”.
Clinton lied in front of a civil jury. There was no obstruction of justice. What he should of done is what Gingrich and Barr did, which was to refuse to answer the question. There was a vast rightwing conspiracy and it spent over 70 million dollars to find out that Clinton got a blow job from a consenting adult. Many Dems found the president’s adultry a problem, and said so. However it pales in comparison to what Bush and his cronies have done in office- the lies, wars, pedofiles, no-bid contracts, deficit increase, gay “journalists,” and blatant corruption.
Correction: The facts as we know it in the Foley case so far show that there was no contact with a “juvenile” with the exception of the email to the Lousiana Page, which was not explicit - just weird.
Foley asked explicit questions about sex and body parts, even requesting a page to get a ruler. SOme of these were with 16 year-olds. This is the type of behavior Foley actually helped craft laws against! Trying to defend him know just show that you wingnuts will go to any length of hypocrisy to try and hold onto power.
Foley resigned. Clinton didn’t. Can you explain the difference to me?
Clinton had sex with a consenting adult. It was not against the law.
Foley is a sexual predator pursuing teenage boys. The emails and IMs are not alone. He showed up at the page’s dorm drunk before. His whole pattern of behavior show what used to be called a “chicken hawk.” Not the Bush kind of chicken hawk, but the kind of older creepy man who chases young teenage boys chicken hawk. It is morally wrong, frequently legally wrong, and just plain sick. However BuyDanish, if you want to keep defending NAMBLA, which is what you are doing, be my guest. I bet NAMBLA gives a number of campaign contributions to the GOP every year. Has your membership card expired? Better check!
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this
BD, are you drinkin’ early today?
I just asked a simple question…Why do YOU think Foley resigned?
C’mon, it’s not difficult…is it?
By RE
October 9, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this
Ahh, thanks RW. That would be an embarrasing “oops”
By bon scott
October 9, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this
More GOP cannibalization as documented by Robert Novak:
The survival of J. Dennis Hastert as speaker of the House of Representatives will produce an uncomfortable scene Thursday at the Hilton Chicago. President Bush is the principal attraction at a reception to fund congressional candidates in two suburban Chicago districts — once thought safely Republican but where Democrats now lead. In the wake of the Mark Foley scandal, Hastert’s presence at the reception will be an embarrassing distraction.
Do tell!
The speaker seems certain, unwittingly, to take attention away from the congressional candidates. As the most prominent Republican officeholder in Illinois, Hastert could not be removed from this event, as he has been from five congressional campaigns as of this writing.
Oh sugar!! Darn it all!! Well, Hastert might as well show up for the food. It won’t make a difference.
“It’s really moot,” one of Hastert’s most severe Republican critics (who would not be identified) told me. “We are sure to lose the House, and Denny never would want to be minority leader.”
More popcorn!! More popcorn!!
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this
I bet it wasn’t to hard to stop people from making nukes in 1194.
It seems that a lot of people went down for that bj. Maybe there really was more to it, you think?
No obstruction of justice you say?
By Pinkos Of Appeasement
October 9, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this
By Lord Help Us October 9, 2006 12:32 PM Do you think Foley should have resigned?C’mon how ‘bout a straight (pardon the pun) answer just this once…
Foley did resign which is a hell of a lot more than Clinton, Studds, Reynolds and Frank did.
Why would our guy be required to resign but your’s doesn’t have to?
Huh?
When Nancy Met Harry…(Nancy Pelosi winks at man-boy love)
Marching in parades with them, eh?
By SusieHomeMaker
October 9, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this
He resigned because it’s an election year and he’s trying to help his Party. Now if this would’ve happened LAST year………
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this
LHU,
According to ABC news, he resigned because of explicit IMS. We now know that those IMs were to a 21 year old adult. We also now know that he had sex with at least one FORMER page who was 21.
Is that too difficult for YOU to comprehend?
Maybe he resigned because the behavior is not befitting a Congressman, even if it is technically legal and is not technically “sexual harrassment”?
I’m not a mind-reader so I can’t speak for Foley, but history has shown that Democrats don’t resign for similar or worse behavior.
Can you explain that to us? Do try to do it without getting on Bonnie Scott’s bandwagon and accusing us all of being “drunks”.
By bon scott
October 9, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this
By RW-(the aboriginal) - October 9, 2006 11:58 AM - Any Republican stupid enough to take advice from you deserves to lose and spend time as your roommate next time you check in to the sanitarium.
Who’s offering advice? I’m just relaying the obituaries.
By Political Foreskin
October 9, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this
Cartoon Idea: Show the Democrats in the pose of the Famous photograh of Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima, but instead the democrats are raising the red flag of warning about pedophilic Repudlickans.
By Glenn
October 9, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this
Glenn, you certainly got that right. Bush and his entire crew should be tried as war criminals for what those SOBs have done.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this
OK bonnie,
Thanks for your contribution then. Normally one would have to spend a half hour at a day care to get the kind of insight you provide.
By the way Georgia voters, that’s not you finchie, tomorrow is the deadline to register if for some reason you aren’t and plan to vote Republican. If you plan to vote for Democrats I’m sure the ACLU will overlook the fact that LHU has disowned them and file a suit to circumvent the law and let you vote anyway.
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this
BD, you cannot be that stupid…Do you actually think the whole Foley scandal is about a relationship he may have had with a 21 year old?
And, are you actually suggesting that ‘he resigned because the behaviour is not befitting a Congressman???
If that was the case, why did he wait until he GOT CAUGHT caught before he resigned?!?!?
Man, you cons are desperate…
By Glenn
October 9, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this
Make that “Spike.”
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this
Harry Reid just said the administration is in a “state of denial” over N. Korea. You libs sure are original aren’t you?
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this
Glenn,
When you are posting as Glenn you’re supposed to compliment Spike. See that what always gets Midori and finch caught too.
By bon scott
October 9, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this
Where’s Andy the drunk?
I’m breathlessly awaiting an update from our pederast defender on the progress of Karl Rove’s diabolical plot.
You know, the one where Foley’s offered as a sacrificial lamb to generate a voter backlash against Democratic Party “hypocrites”?
I guess he’s preoccupied with his research.
Hic!
By Filthy Godless Pinkos
October 9, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this
By gttim October 9, 2006 12:36 PM Foley asked explicit questions about sex and body parts, even requesting a page to get a ruler. SOme of these were with 16 year-olds. This is the type of behavior Foley actually helped craft laws against!
Age Of Consent In D.C.- 16
Which are some of the laws liberals made.
Foley resigned. Clinton didn’t. Can you explain the difference to me?
Yes, idiot, Clinton is a scumbag and Foley did the right thing.
By Filthy Godless Pinkos
October 9, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this
Some of us may be stupid enough to think Karl Rove will hold a press conference to announce how he got the pinkos to make utter jack a-ss hypocrites out of themselves with just a few fake emails, but I’m not.
The voters know already, they don’t need any stinking press conferences.
By getalife
October 9, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this
Lets see, the gop knew about Foley for 6 years, did nothing and then blamed the Dems.
They knew North Korea were working on nukes, did nothing, and then blamed the Dems.
See a trend here?
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this
Deranged Moron:
Any justification for this accusation, ‘Which are some of the laws liberals made.’
Didn’t think so.
PUT up or SHUT up…
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this
Look what else was in Woodward’s book. Looks like Dems are eating their own on this one, pass the popcorn finchie.
By Midori
October 9, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this
GOP REP KOLBE SAW FOLEY MESSAGES 6 YEARS AGO…
By Midori
October 9, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this
another day, another idiot making baseless claims
{{{{See that what always gets Midori and finch caught too.}}}}
I suppose some people just can’t help themselves. They are moronic idiots determined to show the world they are moronic idiots, at the expense of others.
By Midori
October 9, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this
Getalife: it appears as if Kolbe is about to be busted as well. Check the front page of Huff Post.
Oh silly me - perhaps it’s just another “prank”
By gadem
October 9, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this
Get, that is what they do…I was listening to Rush at lunch, and all he did was blame Clinton. My God do neocons have some sort of infatuation with Clinton…
By Midori
October 9, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this
Wow, wonders never cease. Andy if finally right about something: {{{Some of us may be stupid enough to think Karl Rove will hold a press conference to announce how he got the pinkos to make utter jack a-ss hypocrites out of themselves with just a few fake emails}}}}
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this
gadem,
The deep seated problems that eight years of Clinton left us with will take decades to resolve. We have to keep reminding people so we don’t EVER do that again. See if it wasn’t true you could just factually defend the guy instead of trying to silence the opposition.
By gadem
October 9, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this
Wow RW that is hard hitting stuff there…do you have any more. That is sure to tear us apart.
By gadem
October 9, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this
What problems did Clinton leave???? I can give you a long list of c-r-a-p that your boy W has left for someone else to clean up.
By Republican Family Values
October 9, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this
Shucks, I can’t even rib all the Republican perverts anymore, they’re too busy corn-holing themselves now ! ! ! You gotta love the smell of Republican hypocrisy in October.
Hey wingnuts, how do you like taking it up the keister from all your own pervert Republican closet cases?
Snicker, snicker, snicker ! ! !
By nuff-said
October 9, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this
George W. Bush is a greater threat to world peace than terrorism. He has wedded America to dependence on foreign oil for the foreseeable future. His family has made a huge fortune from its oil connections to Arabia. His incompetence and awkward stupidity has America on her knees.
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this
RW-(Crispy)
Please provide some evidence of the ‘deep seated problems that eight years of Clinton left us will take decades to resolve.’
Don’t forget Clinton came in after TWELVE years of Reagan/Bush and had a Republican majority in Congress for most of his administration.
PUT up or SHUT up!
By getalife
October 9, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this
Yawn.
It is all they have left.
Blame others.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this
Hey RW-(Crispy)
Remember this Bush campaign Ad from 2000…It’s a real side splitter
Thanks goodness Al Gore didn’t blow our surplus…
By Midori
October 9, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this
Lord Help Us,
he’s busy searching the American Spectator and Newsbusters for links.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this
gadem,
A partial list of Billy Jeff’s contribution to our country:
Our economy in a recession, an unchecked North Korea that he supplied nuclear material to, Iraq running rampant with no inspections and a corrupt oil for food program, no response to terror attack after terror attack, a wall that kept CIA and FBI from having any chance of stopping 9/11, selling nuclear secrets and most importantly guidance systems for long range missiles to China, a non-existent moral standard………The list goes on forever, which is why we can’t let it happen again.
By Pat Robertson
October 9, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this
Amen, Republican Family Values, Amen.
You forgot to tell them that the World Trade Center was attacked because of homos but don’t worry, you are a quick learner.
You will get the swing of this soon enough.
You like my “Teletubbies” sermon?
By bon scott
October 9, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this
By drunken Andy - October 9, 2006 01:20 PM - Some of us may be stupid enough to think Karl Rove will hold a press conference to announce how he got the pinkos to make utter jack a-ss hypocrites out of themselves with just a few fake emails, but I’m not.
Still sticking to your Rovian fantasy? That must be amazing stuff you’re swilling. I’m watching and laughing as Republicans maneuver themselves into perfect circular firing squads.
By RW-(the aboriginal) - October 9, 2006 01:33 PM - Look what else was in Woodward’s book. Looks like Dems are eating their own on this one, pass the popcorn.
Caveman, if you can’t tell the difference between a historical footnote and events that are splitting the GOP apart at the seams, then you’re as deep into the sauce as your friend the pederast apologist is.
More popcorn…. pleeeeez!!
By Dusty
October 9, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this
If this keeps up some Democrat is going to say that Foley’s mother knew about his “tendancies and e-mails” when he was born and she didn’t tell Congress.
Getalife will then call for her impeachment.
Midori will strongly agree and ask: Why wasn’t Foley busted at birth? Ah ha, a conspiracy!!
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 02:25 PM | Link to this
RW-(Crispy),
I said PROOF…Not more of your delusional ranting.
And, (again) don’t forget…A Reagan or Bush has been in the oval office for 18 out of the last 24 years.
Frightening, I know, but, alas, true…
By getalife
October 9, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this
RW is on the Clinton blame bandwagon.
How embarrassing for the wingnut posters these days.
They should cut and run from the blogs because they have nothing left but blame others.
Must not have much self dignity.
By bon scott
October 9, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this
The cannibalism continues. Another stalwart GOP rumor rag abandons ship!
With L’affair Foley threatening to ruin his plans for another two years in power, U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert decided to play the victim. It is not the first terrible decision Hastert has made as House speaker, but it should be the last.
Shhhh! This is all part of the Rovian plan deduced by drunken Andy!
After the sex scandals in the Roman Catholic Church, it is inconceivable that Hastert, Shimkus and Alexander could have known of those e-mails and not thought to investigate whether Foley had pursued other pages.
You just can’t make up this kind of political immolation!!
Good seats still available!! More popcorn!!
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this
LHU,
Do you have any FACTS to put on the table, or are you SPECULATING about someone’s state of mind with NOTHING to back it up?
Perhaps you can tell us when, if ever, Clinton ever owned up to his behavior? Isn’t he still blaming it on a RW conspiracy? Can you tell us WHY he does that?
WHY? WHY? WHY?
Ha Ha.
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
That’s very funny!
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
We are not blaming anyone. We are questioning why you freaking hypocrites have such a transparently obvious double standard.
By Midori
October 9, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this
no Dusty — I’m wondering why “you” weren’t busted at birth.
By bon scott
October 9, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this
Psssst… aboriginal, bi-granny….
This is not about Clinton. He left the White House nearly 6 years ago.
This is about Republicans who are in Washington today.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Don’t forget the popcorn.
By Midori
October 9, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
Bon Scott,
Rove has certainly missed his calling. He should be working for the CIA, eh? Or perhaps NASA?
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this
BD, quit ranting and tell me what you what me to ‘back…up’ and I will.
PUT up or SHUT up!
By RE
October 9, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this
NY-26 Zogby Oct 8 Davis (D) 48%, Reynolds (R) 33% NY-26 Greenberg (D) Oct 5 Davis (D) 50%, Reynolds (R) 42% NY-26 SurveyUSA Oct 5 Davis (D) 50%, Reynolds (R) 45% NY-26 SurveyUSA Sept 28 Reynolds (R) 45%, Davis (D) 43%
Any comments from andy on how this is going to work out well for the gop?
By Brian Curtis
October 9, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this
BD raises a good question. Why DO the Republican hypocrites have such obvious double standards?
By getalife
October 9, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this
“We are not blaming anyone.”
Hilarious.
But, but Clinton and the Dems.
LOL.
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this
Bonnie Scott Popcorn Eater,
Sorry Ms. Sybil, but history is history and nothing happens in a vacuum (except perhaps the mysterious workings of your multi-personed brain).
How do we teach our children what standards to use in the future if you want us to forget about the standards you used in the past?
Apparently your definition of moral and ethical behavior, like the “living Constitution” changes with the wind, or should I say “election season”.
How convenient for you.
By Midori
October 9, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this
Lord Help Us,
good luck with that. trying to keep those people “focused” on the subject at hand is almost an impossibility. They were rather rant and blather on about some obscure issue, and then travel back in time to the days when Democrats were in power.
they have no defense for their party’s actions or non actions, just a lot of rhetoric, blather, slime, blame and nonsense.
they can never, ever defend Bush/the GOP. All they can do is blame Clinton/the Dems.
If that isn’t pathetic, I don’t know what is.
By Midori
October 9, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
Lord Help Us,
good luck with that. trying to keep those people “focused” on the subject at hand is almost an impossibility. They were rather rant and blather on about some obscure issue, and then travel back in time to the days when Democrats were in power.
they have no defense for their party’s actions or non actions, just a lot of rhetoric, blather, slime, blame and nonsense.
they can never, ever defend Bush/the GOP. All they can do is blame Clinton/the Dems.
If that isn’t pathetic, I don’t know what is.
By RE
October 9, 2006 03:06 PM | Link to this
GOP supporters….
Please do not take this as an attack. Because of Mark Foley, the dems magic number has gone from 15 to 13
Reynolds is gone, as is foley’s seat, currently being held by negron.
This is not good for the GOP. Please write back any case in which losing seats that were sealed up is to the advantage of a political party
By N-GA
October 9, 2006 03:06 PM | Link to this
Meanwhile, three more American soldiers died in Iraq…Why do the Republicans hate our troops?
Georgia reservists are preparing to return to Iraq for their third combat tour. What, me worry? That didn’t even happen in Viet Nam. But then there was a draft during that nightmare.
Support our troops…Impeach Bush!!!!
By Filthy Godless Pinkos
October 9, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this
By RE October 9, 2006 02:55 PM NY-26 Zogby Oct 8 Davis (D) 48%, Reynolds (R) 33% NY-26 Greenberg (D) Oct 5 Davis (D) 50%, Reynolds (R) 42% NY-26 SurveyUSA Oct 5 Davis (D) 50%, Reynolds (R) 45% NY-26 SurveyUSA Sept 28 Reynolds (R) 45%, Davis (D) 43% Any comments from andy on how this is going to work out well for the gop?
RE: Did you smoke some really good sh-it this afternoon?
Why are you turning to me as the authority on some obscure NY House race, considering that I live in Cobb County, Georgia?
HAMDEN, Conn. (AP) - Sen. Joe Lieberman has a 10-point advantage over Democrat Ned Lamont among likely Connecticut voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday.
You tell me about Connecticut, I’ll tell you about New York, deal?
By Dusty
October 9, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this
Awww Midori, since you were wondering…
I was such a cute baby and irresistable. And never lost it!! Learned quickly. First three letters…G..O..P. Been an honorable Republican ever since. Family still proud.
Sorry you missed out. But don’t worry. Getalife loves you. Now say G..O..P…good good good. That’s it!!!
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this
Bonnie Scott Popcorn Eater,
Sorry Ms. Sybil, but history is history and nothing happens in a vacuum (except perhaps the mysterious workings of your multi-personed brain).
How do we teach our children what standards to use in the future if you want us to forget about the standards you used in the past?
Apparently your definition of moral and ethical behavior, like the “living Constitution” changes with the wind, or should I say “election season”.
How convenient for you.
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this
LHU,
YOU asked me why Foley resigned. I have answered this in every possible permutation imaginable.
WTF do you want?
Sheesh?
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this
Getabrain,
“Blaming” someone would be blaming Clinton for Foley’s behavior. No one is doing that.
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this
Midori,
They get ADDICTED (with apologies to Rush) to all these fabricated stories, repeat them, and ‘feel’ that they are true…
Clinton sold missile technology to the Chinese…
Al Gore said he invented the internet…
Clinton ‘had bin laden in his sights and refused to give the order…
Clinton refused Sudan’s offer to turn over bin Laden…
Clinton built a ‘wall’ between intelligence and law enforecement…
and on, and on, and on, ad nauseum.
The FACT that all these (and dozens of others) have been completely debunked will never prevent the narrow-minded from continuing to parrot…Because…IT’s ALL THEY HAVE.
You should feel sorry for them. They are hopeless disciples of right-wing ideology…
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this
{{By Lord Help Us October 9, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this BD, you cannot be that stupid…Do you actually think the whole Foley scandal is about a relationship he may have had with a 21 year old? And, are you actually suggesting that ‘he resigned because the behaviour is not befitting a Congressman??? If that was the case, why did he wait until he GOT CAUGHT caught before he resigned?!?!?}}
LHU,
The answer is YES to the first question and the second question is too freaking stupid to answer.
Happy?
Once again, if YOU have any other FACTS to put on the table, I’m eager to hear them.
By Paul
October 9, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this
Gadem at 1:54 ‘What problems did Clinton leave?”
Uh, how about bin Laden? Politics is performance. Trying doesn’t cut it.
BTW - that’s a dangerous question to ask about any ex-Pres - there’s always something-
and please - don’t anyone say “he left Hillary.” Please.
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
BD, your skull must be two feet thick…(no I don’t have proof, just an educated guess)
Once again, tell me what I have said that you want ‘FACTS’ for and I will oblige…(you keep leaving out this minor detail)
Oh, and I am on the floor laughing about your post confirming that the Foley scandal is ALL about a relationship with a 21 year-old - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this
Allow me to provide some detail to LHU’s 3:28.
Clinton sold missile technology to the Chinese Click for your evidence.
{{{{{Al Gore said he invented the internet}}}} I’ll give you that one, it was out of context.
Clinton ‘had bin laden in his sights and refused to give the order Click for your video evidence
Clinton refused Sudan’s offer to turn over bin Laden Click for audio evidence. or read the transcript
Clinton built a ‘wall’ between intelligence and law enforecement Click to read about the wall.
and on, and on, and on, ad nauseum.
By getalife
October 9, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this
I think there should be a preemptive strike against the gop computers just in case of weapons of mass molestation.
This would spread freedom among the children and we will be greeted with tootsie roll pops.
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this
Good job RW-(Crispy)- one capitulation, one grainy video with no context, one grainy recording with no context and two wingnut propaganda links.
THIS is EXACTLY what I was talking about…YOU GOT NUTHIN’!
By Honu
October 9, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this
Hi Andy – as always, thank you.
Didn’t know if you’ve had a chance to read “America Alone.” David Warren’s article ties in nicely with the message in Mark Steyn’s book. (But where Mr. Steyn tempers his messages with humor, Mr. Warren’s in-your-face style is sure to bring him more hate mail today.) He speaks the truth, however — appeasement and tolerance of the Muslim fanatics in the European communities is simply not working, and it really is only a matter of time before it stops working here in our country.
I read a great article this weekend by Lawrence Wright, written in 2004 for New Yorker magazine, entitled “The Kingdom of Silence.” It’s a startling look at where the “total domination” mindset of a militant Muslim stems from, what they’re running from by leaving their own countries and what they hope to achieve once settled into our communities. Quite an eye-opener and I can so empathize with their plight – hundreds and hundreds of years of oppression and living in abject poverty, wanting only to rise up out of it and make a difference and be noticed, while trying to maintain their identity.
However; we weren’t and aren’t their oppressors, and our country cannot afford to allow the current generation of radical “Islamists” to achieve this recognition at the expense of our freedoms and Christian beliefs. And sadly, it does come full circle to Mr. Warren’s point today – “The majority of European [and American] Muslims…trying to fit in are irrelevant to this developing story.” (Developing being the operative word.)
Hi Buy Danish - credit to you for pointing me towards Lawrence Wright. Perhaps there’s a new book in someone’s future :-)
By getalife
October 9, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this
OMG, Pink Elephants!
By Filthy Godless Liberals
October 9, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this
By Honu October 9, 2006 03:58 PM And sadly, it does come full circle to Mr. Warren’s point today – “The majority of European [and American] Muslims…trying to fit in are irrelevant to this developing story.” (Developing being the operative word.)
Hey Honu: I hate replying in this forum because I know the mouth breathing savages in here will soon be attacking you, but I wanted to add to the point^^ the you made:
The Europeans and Americans who are trying to “fit in” with radical Islam will also become irrelevant, so to speak.
Sadly so.
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this
Hi Honu!!
LHU,
A clear video of OJ butchering his wife and Ron Goldman would not be evidence to you.
I want FACTS to back up your SPECULATION that Foley resigned for any reason other than a relationship with a 21 year old adult former Page.
Can you do that or do you want to keep playing your pointless little juvenile game?
By getalife
October 9, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this
Turn out w is just whiner like the rest of the wingnuts:
“In the obsessively private Bush clan, talking out of school is the ultimate act of disloyalty, and Bush feels betrayed from within.”
“He’s ticked off big-time,” said a well-informed source, “even if what they said was the truth.”
If want to read a good book, try Woodward’s “A State of Denial”.
By hooked on hookahs
October 9, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
This morning’s ajc home page front story, too funny.
Looks like the ajc found the new dem fad…What a surprise. Just look in here at the libby loons dancing around with their hoses hanging out of their mouths. Hahahahahah!
And getalife’s seeing pink elephants, oh my!
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this
BD,
I’m not sure, but perhaps he could not face the embarrassment of this
Just a guess, but, I don’t think I would show my face again either…
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 04:28 PM | Link to this
Honu,
Here is the New Yorker article - The Kingdom of Silence
I’ll have to read it later as I am on my way out!
By Paul
October 9, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this
Hi getalife. What’s a wingnut? Any idea of the derivation?
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this
LHU,
I apologize if there is another double post.
The link you provided is last week’s news.
It’s funny, but I don’t recall Clinton being embarrassed enough to resign over his phone sex with Monica. Do you?
Foley resigned. Clinton didn’t.
What am I missing here? If you ever figure out the answer to this question, leave it here and I’ll read it later tonight.
I can’t wait to see the spin.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this
LHU,
The links aren’t for your benefit, they wouldn’t do someone as blind as you any good anyway. Your quick dismissal of the messenger when I gave extremely fair sources is quite telling.
You may want to get some new speakers or a hearing check up if you couldn’t hear Clinton saying he passed on Bin Laden though.
By Political Foreskin
October 9, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this
Cartoon idea: Show Bush walking along the white house lawn followed by his dog, who holds a pooper scooper, and the piles W is leaving behind for the dog to scoop up are labeled, “Iraq”, “Iran”, “Foley”, and “N. Korea”. (show a mushroom frowing out of the N. Korean pile)
Also, show a sign that reads, “pets are responsible for their owner’s messes”.
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
October 9, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this
Honu,
You lack an understanding of history if you think we have not been the oppressors of Muslims. Whether it was western European powers during the crusades or our own involvement helping the Shah repress Iranians for decades, there are well-established reasons for some of their hatred towards us. It’s not all justified, and terrorism is never justified, but we have also done things that aren’t justified. If we would get out of their face and end our involvement in the Middle East, with the possible exception of supporting Israel in extreme circumstances, the whole world would be a better place. But we can’t do that because of our dependence on oil, and the petroleum companies that pull the strings in the republican party won’t allow it.
By gadem
October 9, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this
RW, correct me if I am wrong but W also said that he is not concerned with OBL anymore either. The witch of your party of values also dismissed OBL because she said things were going “swimmingly well” in Afghanistan…so what exactly is your point…atleast CLinton tried to kill OBL at one point in time….W just doesn’t bother to think about him…what is up with your daddy RW? Why would he say something like that during a press conference?
By Political Foreskin
October 9, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this
This just in: George Steinbrenner blames the democrats for the Yankees sudden fall from grace…..report at 11
By Paul
October 9, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this
G’d afternoon, Buy Danish. Minor point, as you’re comparing and contrasting Foley and Clinton - Clinton didn’t have phone sex with Monica. I believe it was a cigar.
Sorry to be so graphic, but we must be accurate, musn’t we?
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
October 9, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this
Granny,
You may be a lazy b!tch, but unlike Andy, you’re not completely stupid. Are you telling me you can’t tell the difference between a man having consensual sex with an adult female and another man propositioning a teenage boy for sex? The only spin you’ll be seeing will be emanating from your own keyboard.
By bon scott
October 9, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this
Aboriginal, when you repeat lies, it’s unwise to do so when it’s a simple matter to refute them:
The 9/11 Commission report concludes that Sudan never offered bin Laden to the United States. Also, Clinton did not admit at any time to any Sudanese offer of bin Laden.
Your other Clinton fibs can be sliced and diced just as easily.
Ya know, this intense preoccupation with Clinton as the GOP crumbles is painful to watch. Whining over your revisionist take on the past while ignoring the pus filled sores in your party today won’t win any votes in 29 days.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this
Abraham Lincoln’s mother died in infancy and he was born in a log cabin which he built with his own hands.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this
Bach was the most famous composer in history and was half German, half Italian, and half English.
By Lord Help Us
October 9, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this
RW-(Crispy), I’ll take Clinton’s legacy over what will ultimately be W’s legacy ANY day…
‘Conservative’ will be running away from Bush’s legacy of fiscal irresponsibility, exploding gov’t spending, W’s approach to the ‘War on Terror,’ cowboy diplomacy, etc. for decades.
You can already see it…Bush is a pariah on the campaign trail and his approval rating is stuck in the 30’s…Pitiful…
Bush would LOVE approval ratings like these
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this
The sun never sets on the American empire because the American empire is in the east and the sun sets in the west.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this
The Egyptians built pyramids in the shape of a huge triangular cube.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this
The Bible is full of interesting caricatures. In the first book of the Bible, Guinesses, Adam and Eve were created from an apple tree.
By Political Foreskin
October 9, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this
I am a big fat liberal wanker
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this
Cain, one of Adam and Eve’s children, asked, “Am I my brother’s son?”
By Midori
October 9, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this
Blame game corners Republican leaders
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this
Without the Greeks we wouldn’t have history.
By Filthy Godless Liberals
October 9, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this
By One of the Major Morons of Dissent October 9, 2006 04:44 PM If we would get out of their face and end our involvement in the Middle East
Honu: This is one of the mouth breathers I was telling you about, notice his gracious debating style, opening the discourse by calling you uneducated, so sophisticated, isn’t it?
Never mind that I provided an article about the ultimate appeasers, who are not in any Muslim’s face, but yet they travel through their own country in armored cars. The left considers this to be normal living with Muslims, if you should happen to offend them, by showing your hair or something, they get a free pass to saw your head off or stone you to death.
And it’s your fault.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this
A myth is a female moth.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this
Actually, Homer was not written by Homer, but by another man of that name.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this
Socrates died from an overdose of wedlock.
By Political Foreskin
October 9, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this
Better cartoon idea: Same as before except it’s the GOP elephant walking along leaving big piles of poop labeled “foley”, “Iraq”, “n. Korea” with Bush’s dog holding the pooper scooper.
Of course dont forget the mushroom growing out of the N. Korea pile, and the sign that reads, Pets are responsible for the messes of their owners.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this
In midevil times most of the people were alliterate.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this
The Magna Carta provided that no free man should be hanged twice for the same offense.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this
Sir Francis Drake circumcised the world with a 100-foot clipper.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this
The government of England is a limited mockery.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this
The next great author was John Milton. Milton wrote “Paradise Lost.” Then his wife dies and he wrote “Paradise Regained.”
By Jan D. Wilson
October 9, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this
Your Sunday (cartoon?) depicting Republicans as all the same was disgusting and an outright lie. No Republican that I am aware of offered up excuses for the bad behavior of our Florida Senator. Not one!!! On the other hand every time a Democrat is caught doing something bad the Democrats, and the liberal press come riding in and attempt to make them a cult hero. The most amazing thing is that they are also almost always re-elected. Imagine that, re-elected.
We are not angry that this person was caught, or that he was punished too severely, but rather that the Democrats never do the right thing.
Why don’t you scream to high heaven when one of yours is caught? I.E. Bill Clinton, Teddy Kennedy, and the list goes on and on and on. You people have to be mentally diseased.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this
Benjamin Franklin died in 1790 and is still dead.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this
Franklin invented electricity by rubbing cats backwards and declared “a horse divided against itself cannot stand.”
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this
Writing at the same time as Shakespear was Miguel Cervantes who wrote “Donkey Hote.”
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this
Gravity was invented by Issac Walton. It is chiefly noticable in autumn when the apples are falling off trees.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this
Bach died from 1750 to present.
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this
Samuel Morse invented a code for telepathy.
By Midori
October 9, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this
psst. Jan, psst. over here
By Midori
October 9, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this
Here, Jan. have another
By Midori
October 9, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this
Jan, thanks for helping me get these messages out
By Midori
October 9, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this
Jan, thanks for helping me get these messages out
By Buy Danish
October 9, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this
LHU,
Actually I was wrong. That is a new IM, but it is similar to the other ones. The last group that ABC claimed were to/from underage boys turned out to be incorrect. ABC does not say the exact age of this Page.
Why is Brian Ross dripping these out on a daily basis? Do we get a new one tomorrow? Oh goody.
Foley resigned over IM messages
Paul,
You are nice and polite, but Monica and Bill had phone sex.
Stalker Boy,
See message to LHU. Foley resigned.
Got it??
By Midori
October 9, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this
when will Buy Danish resign? I look forward to the day when I can come to this blog and not smell her stinking up the place.
By I'm A Liberal Jack Off
October 9, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
So I jack people’s names and post whole entire stupid web pages to a cartoon blog:
English-Zone.Com
I’m screwed in the head.
By Paul
October 9, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish: thanks for the clarification - I hadn’t recalled that.
Couple of thoughts, some serious, some less so -
People rather expected it of Clinton. There were indications during his governorship, surely during the primary. So when it comes out in the open, well, what did we expect. It wasn’t really a secret, now, was it?
Foley, on the other hand, has hints of hypocrisy to it. He’s a Republican, for pete’s sake. Republicans don’t fornicate, commit adultery, and they’re never ever gay. So with Foley, everybody’s really shocked. And the way it was handled, well, again, during the Clinton years we expected the denials and coverups to be artfully and skillfully done. So when they did occur, well, the public could at least nod and say “we didn’t expect anything less.”
But the Republican leadership’s handling of the Foley situation has been horrible. I mean, these are the guys who run corporations, know the art of business and politics, and they’re supposed to handle it well. Jettison the flotsam and protect the shareholders. So the public and the opposition party are, it seems, outraged, just outrated.
There are also parallels to the shocking revelations about how radical Muslims commit atrocities and the comparisons made to some unfortunate situations with the American military and intelligence agencies. You see, the world expects such conduct of the radical Muslims. For them not to behave this way would be astonishing. They rise to the lowest expectations every time. The Americans, on the other hand, are naturally assumed to be far above their enemies on a moral and practical. So when breaches do occur, there is shocked, apoplectic gasping and recriminations. Because the superior moral wall has been breached.
Well, I’m off for some cardio workout. Have a wonderfully pleasant evening.
By Midori
October 9, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
yes, Andy. we know all about it.
By Scott
October 9, 2006 05:47 PM | Link to this
True for certain, Spike. Iraqi’s living their traditional ugly lives and this mucking Bush fool injects his version of an ego trip. Mindless, alcoholic bastard. We see the results and get our butts kicked out of there, losing any semblance of respect left in the world. And yeah, what sane person can ever forget the joke of Desert Storm. An uneducated bunch of rednecks who were never taught a moment of real U.S. warfare history out there celebrating “Iraq Victory.” The boombox, video game generations of utter ignorance. They are everywhere. This blog is a perfect example of the final product. Blind, stupid, goose-stepping hate mongers. Tough talking cowards hiding behind their little machines. Puke.
By George
October 9, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this
Yes Andy, I know these polls don’t mean anything. Just keep thinking that.
WASHINGTON — Four weeks before congressional elections, a new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll shows Democrats hold a 23-point lead over GOP candidates. That’s double the lead Republicans had a month before they seized control of Congress in 1994. President Bush’s approval rating was 37%, down from 44% in a Sept. 15-17 poll. The approval rating for Congress was 24%, down 5 points from last month.
By Dusty
October 9, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this
RW,
Where did you get all those? I had a good time reading them. Now off to dinner. I’ll have to read them again later.
By bon scott
October 9, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this
By RW-(the aboriginal) - October 9, 2006 04:36 PM - The links aren’t for your benefit, they wouldn’t do someone as blind as you any good anyway. Your quick dismissal of the messenger when I gave extremely fair sources is quite telling.
Newsmax and the Washington Times are “extremely fair sources”??
Newsmax makes no pretense of being non-biased. And as for the Washington Times…
Washington ‘Times’ Racism, Pedophilia, Sexism Roundup (9-29-06)
Hmmm. Now why is that used Kleenex of a paper calling for Hastert’s resignation? Too close to home?
Now stop sneaking nips from Andy’s bottle. It just makes him mad anyway.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
October 9, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this
George- You’re right, I’m an idiot just like you now:
By George October 9, 2006 05:52 PM Yes Andy, I know these polls don’t mean anything. Just keep thinking that.
The poll you linked to made me change my whole life. Now I am a pervert, I threw down my American flag and ran, I want to get my nails done like all the rest of you metrosexuals and I have my browser open to the Huff and Puff.
Good job, Georgie Girl!
By RW-(the original)
October 9, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this
Now that my admirer has slowed down, this being my first post since 4:36, let me correct gadimwit who has decided to truncate President Bush’s quote and take it out of context. The point was that in the overall war on terror, at the point he said that, was that one man was not that important, whether that one man be OBL or not.
Sybil bon finchie,
I linked to the freaking audio tape of BJ saying he turned down Sudan’s offer of OBL. He says it right out of his own filthy mouth, yet you say it’s an easily debunked lie. Incredible!
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
October 9, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this
bon scott,
I like the name, by the way. I’m a big AC/DC fan, too. I’ll be going away for a couple weeks and I noticed you’ve taken to calling Buy Danish “Granny” from time to time, so I thought I’d leave you some info into the origin of it. Katherine Anne Porter has a short story entitled, “The Jilting of Granny Weatherall.” Granny Weatherall reminded me of Danish- a strong woman, but ornery, argumentative, bitter, combative, and she thinks she’s always right. She goes through life degrading people with the satisfaction that she is holy and Jesus will come take her away upon her death. By calling her Granny I was trying to impart upon BD how utterly misguided she is to the core of her belief system, that she too would be jilted many times over. Another thing that seemed to aggravate Granny Danish was that Porter actually socialized with socialists and communists. Then the last twist of the screw was my estimation that Granny Danish is somewhere between 43 and 49 years old, and no woman her age wants to be referred to as Granny. Good luck and have fun with the repugs.
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
October 9, 2006 06:59 PM | Link to this
Hey RW,
How did you enjoy looking like an idiot the other night when I gave you the origin of life quiz?
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
October 9, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this
Granny,
Why have you been so defensive and angry since I got back? You have barely given me a kind word. I guess I will have to go away without us making up. Really, you did used to hammer me from time to time, but you do not seem to have much material of late. What gives? Maybe when I come back in a few weeks right before the election you will have built some venom up.
By Honu
October 9, 2006 07:06 PM | Link to this
Hi Andy — you’re the best - thank you. I’m posting you a message “After Dark” in a few minutes.
Speaking of RW-(the real original) — YAY —you’re back! You’re 10:35am today ROCKED.
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
October 9, 2006 07:08 PM | Link to this
Andy-girl,
I noticed you said something earlier about debating skills. You’re the one who has made himself infamous for the pinko, b-itch, etc. etc., foul mouthed insults. If I play character assassination, I’m just beating you republitards at your own game. You guys can spin and spin and dish it out, but you’re too weak to take it.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
October 9, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this
One of the Major Blowhard’s of Dissent: Considering how lame your posts have become, and they never were any good to begin with, I’d take a few months off too if I were you.
Close your mouth junior and let the fog clear.
Take that, wanker.
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
October 9, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this
RW,
I’m still waiting for you to tell us more about how magic was at the root of all life. You must have been getting your information from your girl, Honu, who seems to think the universe came into being when an omnipotent creature snapped his fingers and said “let the be light.” And you wonder why people think conservatives are stupid. Children don’t even believe that garbage unless they’re brainwashed into it. You losers need to go back to your Flowery Branch Davidian compound and try to figure out who the next messiah is. Could it be GW? Nah, he’s more like the antichrist. He does seem pretty convinced the armageddon is upon us.