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The blame game

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By Charles

September 27, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

The perjurer doth protest too much, methinks

It’s about time a Clinton answered a question not prescreened by their handlers. Of course, he followed their usual “answer a question with a question” method of response (i.e. “It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is”). Once pinned down, Clinton went into the usual Liberal method of attacking those who question their actions.

As James Carville put it in an interview on CNBC’s Kudlow & Company yesterday, “Game On!”. It’s about time Conservatives stopped playing the defensive game in the media and take the offensive (no pun intended - but it’s a true statement) posture the Liberals have been playing since the last national election.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 27, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

Mike, thanks for starting our day off with a chuckle.

By Shawny

September 27, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this

There is plenty of blame to go around, idiot. The event of 9/11 was the culmination of years of failures going back to the Carter years. In addition, to suggest that the Wallace interview and questioning of Clinton was a Bush ploy in proxy, as that idiot Keith Olbermann did in his editorial, is ludicrous. How dare Wallace ask a pointed question of the regal Bill Clinton?!? For a list of Clinton’s failures, read (with an open mind, freakin’ libs) the following: LINK: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115931778776275048.html?mod=opinionmaincommentaries

Bush had failures too. So did Carter. Not so much with Ronnie, though.

By Scooter

September 27, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

Being that the dems have been trying to place ALL the blame on Bush’s eight months in office, and seemingly will accept none for themselves, couldn’t the scapegoating go both ways ml?

Dems “plan” to fight terrorism will provide us with short term security; while terrorist pretend to be peaceful, but overall long term attacks. Because they will be emboldened by the dem’s whack a mole techniques and retreat from Iraq. However, the republicrats strategy may result in greater recruitment in the short term, but ho will they recruit when Iraq and Afghanistan have exercised a couple of free elections? It is that damn long term startegy that conflicts with peoples’ desire to regain massive political power.

By Brian Curtis

September 27, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

The cartoon makes a good point. I know the Bush crowd would LOVE to shift the blame over to Clinton for “not doing enough” (even though they were the ones fighting him tooth and nail)—but it was Bush who did nothing at all prior to 9/11.

Clinton did an excellent job reminding everyone how threadbare the neocons’ excuses have become for their blatant failure.

By @@

September 27, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

ml: I’m not surprised by today’s cartoon. As a raging liberal, you see eight years of Clinton, and eight months of Bush in “minute” segments (7 to be exact). Only a simple mind thinks in those terms.

But hey….I’ll give you credit for the “big butt” in the middle of Clinton’s face, or persona, if you will.

By Milking My Pet Billy Goat

September 27, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

Luckovich sucking up to Clinton again.

We gay cons of the Drudgepacker Pack are sucking up to my pet billy goat today.

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By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this

Twisted Brain Curtis,

Let me see if I have this correct:

It’s Bush’s fault that Mike Wallace asked a question that Billy Boy flipped out about.

If you actually want to LEARN something, see if you can get ahold of yesterday’s press conference with Bush where he REFUSES to play the blame game.

Charles,

Here is a reminder of where another impudent, rude reporter dared ask Billy Boy a question that wasn’t pre-approved by his handlers.

By Lord Help Us

September 27, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this

Hey, forget about 8 years vs. 8 months…

Bush has had SIX years to get Bin Laden - AND FAILED.

AND, in the process, the number of terrorists has grown significantly over the last SIX years.

Keep trying to split hairs, wingnuts. It only makes you look more pathetic…

By Dana Kling

September 27, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

Charles,

With all due respect, please don’t declare the “attack and evade” technique one reservedly liberal — both sides do this and, until we all admit it readily, dialogue will never occur…

Next on “No thing considered.”

D

By Luckovich Censors KKKooks

September 27, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

As long as we can make Clinton look bad, who cares how much money we spend, who cares how many people die?

Not me.

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By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

@@,

The whole time I was watching the Mike Wallace interview, when I wasn’t looking at his short pants, I was fixated on Clinton’s unappealing nose - but I thought it resembled something that resides near his butt, but I never thought it looked like his butt itself.

And I think ML agrees with me!

That may be God’s way of reminding us of what a lying Dick he is. Ha Ha.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

LHU,

Billy Boy didn’t need to FIND Bin Laden, he just needed to pull the trigger which he failed to do on 10 occasions.

Bush has not had those golden opportunities.

By WWWWWW

September 27, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this

First, here are some more of those missing WWWWW’s.

Second, it was Chris Wallace you twit.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this

Woops - too many “buts” in my 8:30 to @@. Remove the “but” after “butt”.

By Scooter

September 27, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

LHU, when we establish a representative government in Iraq and Afghanistan and leave those countries to govern themselves, how do you think that will affect terrorist recruitment? They will be nominating and electing their own representatives, the terrorists and some libs will be trying to prtray it as a US puppet government, but the people will knopw better. It’s the long term.

By Hoosier Joe

September 27, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

You know who I blame for 9/11? George Washington … the man had 225 years to plan for an attack and did nothing. George Washington, F$%ing do-nothing liberal!!

By @@

September 27, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

Let’s take a look at how a President, who has “nothing to hide” responds to an opportunity to place blame.

PRESIDENT BUSH: You know, look, Caren, I’ve watched all this finger-pointing and naming of names, and all that stuff. Our objective is to secure the country. And we’ve had investigations, we had the 9/11 Commission, we had the look back this, we’ve had the look back that. The American people need to know that we spend all our time doing everything that we can to protect them. So I’m not going to comment on other comments.

Now “THAT” is how a man with confidence responds to a reporter’s question. Like a “President”, not like a “nannying” Billy Goat waving his “little pecker” in somebody’s face.

By WWWWWW

September 27, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this

Hoosier Joe, you’re right on!

But the spelling is *rong. It should be George *ashington.

Condi needs you on her team.

By Republicans Teach Payola to the Iraqis

September 27, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A public relations company known for its role in a controversial U.S. military program that paid Iraqi newspapers for stories favorable to coalition forces has been awarded another multimillion dollar media contract with American forces in Iraq.

Republican One Size Fits ALL startegy: If you can’t beat ‘em……..LIE and load ‘em up with a ton of propoganda.

By @@

September 27, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish:

I noticed Clinton’s short pants as well (knickers), and since they were in such a wad that night, it was apparent he was exposed in more ways than one.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this

WWWWWWWWWWW,

Got me! It was Chris Wallace. Enjoy your triumph.

By gadem

September 27, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

Bi-Danish, Bush has no footing whatsoever to play the blame game….neocons have very short memories.

By I Don't Have A Brain So I Blame EVERYTHING On Bush

September 27, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

By The Real Spammer September 27, 2006 08:41 AM Big, Big, Big government Republicans raise taxes more than Democrats ever thought about.

Listen to this total bullsh-it, waste of blog speed, mindless liberal garbage, a freaking pinko b***-ing about a tax hike?

After we’ve increased spending on education by a 1000% over what the pinkos were spending.

WTF?

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this

Andy,

I think you’re right about them dreaming of being the next Monica. They SHOULD be wondering what it would be like to be the next Juanita.

What we see as purple rage they see as sexy.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this

If the scribbler had one ounce of honesty this would be reversed. Clinton is on a full scale propaganda campaign to pin 9/11 squarely on President Bush and absolve himself completely. Even the part he said you could blame him for he said was the fault of the FBI and CIA, which he ran but seems not to have known.

President Bush refuses to play this game even going out of his way to say he WON”T blame anyone and the idiot cartoonist draws this crap. Lying sacks of dung like mike luckovich and Bill Clinton do stick together don’t they?

By Edwin Williams

September 27, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

Once again, this twit Luckovich, sychophant for the left, has gotten it totally backwards. Clinton was the one playing the blame game, and telling several lies while he was at it. He also pulled the time-honored bunk, pulled by both liberals and conservatives, of accusing the interviewer of being a shill for the opposition. It was a perfectly fair question, which Chris Wallace had asked of Bush Administration officials in the past. Clinton was a foreign policy disaster as president and he is trying to live that down. Just name ONE enduring foreign policy accomplishment of that blowhard and I will gladly eat my hat!

By gadem

September 27, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

RW, you are so full of s**t it is not even funny. The Republican smear machine first made the suggestion that 9/11 was CLinton’s fault. Bunch of hypocrites and liars.

By I Don't Have A Brain So I Blame EVERYTHING On Bush

September 27, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

By Stupid, Mindless Spammer September 27, 2006 08:49 AM BAGHDAD, Iraq - A public relations company known for its role in a controversial U.S. military program that paid Iraqi newspapers for stories favorable to coalition forces has been awarded another multimillion dollar media contract with American forces in Iraq.

No, no, Spammer, we should just let Al Jazeera go on and on, unchallenged, along with the AJC.

Why this has never been done in wartime before, there never was a Franklin Delano Roosevelt “Voice Of America.” No, this stupid, bandwith wasting spammer has found a freaking conspiracy that it can blame, go figure, get this, Bush for.

Here, everybody go ahead and read this freaking anti American rag and let’s hold a contest to see what the next Spam is going to be shoved up our as-ses:

http://news.yahoo.com/

Hint: It will be the next story in line and it will be Bush’s fault.

By Milking My Pet Billy Goat

September 27, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this

Hi - it’s me, Andi/Andy/Andie - the angry gay chickenhawk conservative that hates the AJC and Luckovich.

Clinton better not wag his finger at me - his zipper would be fine though!

Bi Danish - eat your heart out you silly d**.

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By I Don't Have A Brain So I Blame EVERYTHING On Bush

September 27, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

By Mindless, Stupid Spammer September 27, 2006 09:01 AM Osama will be dead of old age YEARS before King George catches up to him. The Chimperor couldn’t find his butt with both hands and a flashlight ! ! !

Finally!! Something that Bush DOESN’T get blamed for, Osama dying of Typhoid.

I knew, just knew that we could find something that Bush had nothing to do with, don’t it figure?

If Osama was our friend and Bush killed him by forcing him to live in a cave where he couldn’t get medical treatment for a simple, non life threatening disease, these liberals would be parading up and down the street burning Bush in effigy.

But no, Osama is an “enemy,” even though the liberals cheer him on, so we get stupid, mindless, blog slowing spam.

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

Today’s cartoon that doesn’t suck!“>http://www.comics.com/editoons/ariail/index.html)

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

What was that again Hillary? Did you forget about December 4, 1998’s PDB titled “Bin Laden Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks” your “husband” was given?

Now when you can show the PDB that Clinton got saying Bin Laden was no longer determined to hijack maybe you can explain why nothing was done to place air marshals and harden cockpit doors after that and tell me that your “husband” took this much more seriously.

By getalife

September 27, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this

Great toon Mike.

I thought it was time for another Clinton toon after he was the first Dem to attack the wingnuts on their own propaganda channel.

The front line on the war on terror should be in Afghanistan. Karzai said it best when he said the 300 billion should have been spent in Afghanistan.

Iraq is a mistake that had nothing to do with 9/11.

By Mike Thompson

September 27, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this

There is one thing that the fascist in Washington can’t stand. it’s a good look at the truth. Mike Thompson

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this

Ooops:

Today’s cartoon that doesn’t suck!

By ed lorenzo

September 27, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this

CONDI VERSUS CLINTON

“Condi? This is Bill Clinton. Have a minute?”

“Yes, Condoleezza here. Give me your number and I’ll call you in a few minutes. I gotta call you from a pay phone in the street. You know, all calls are monitored here. Hold on, Bill”

President Clinton did not know what to think. In his time they had other ways of learning things without being so obvious. He waited patiently and in minutes his phone rang. It was Condoleezza.

“Bill, we can not let this argument about Osama and terrorism in general become a media industry. It will take us nowhere.”

“Agreed, Condi. But do not let your right wing Mafiosi set these third rate blood hounds on me. Besides, you must remember the times I told you and your boss about the Counter Terrorism Plans we left on top of the filing cabinet in the presidential bathroom.”

“Yes I know. But remember that there were other priorities and Iraq was the one. “

“Yes, but you were the National Security Adviser and could have devoted some time to find out about the terrorism file, instead you spent your time making surveys about paper clips, expense accounts, buying fertilizer for the ranch in Crawford and showing Laura some of those great French films!”

“See, here we go again! What do you suggest we do?”

“How about letting me see some of those French films?”

By Chris

September 27, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

Is anyone else enjoying watching Republicans scramble for cover over this leaked Spy report? The report basically affirms everything Democrats have been saying about the Iraq war. Little bushie is going to be in a world of hurt after the mid-term elections.

I can’t believe Bush Mouthpiece Condi Rice actually said that Clinton did not leave behind a comprehensive infrastructure to catch Bin Laden…that is a bold faced lie. I know she isn’t that stupid. I mean really, what has ever happened to putting America first. Bush and his cronies have done a real number on our civil liberties, our standing in the world and most important our security. He has to be the worst Presiedent this country has ever had. It is amazing to me that Republicans continue to defend his policies even though they are complete failures.

I can’t wait to get these republican bums out of office.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

ed lorenzo,

Why don’t you polish that story up a little before you subject the rest of us to it?

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

RW,

From your link I see that Richard Clarke thought that the chemical plant in the Sudan was making weapons based on a cooperative alliance with Al Qaeda and Iraq.

I’m running out the door, but MLs sycophants should also be reminded of the specific warnings that Kerry was given about Logan Airport.

By Too Cowardly for Military Service

September 27, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

But not too cowardly to blog.

I’m Andy/Andi/Andie - and I’m not gonna take it any more!

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By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

Chris,

It was lefty hero Richard Clarke that said no plan was left behind. If you followed Billy Jeff’s advice and read the book you would know that. I guess President BJ was counting on useful idiots, like you, to parrot his lies.

By Luckovich Censors Chickenhawks

September 27, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

And, as an angry gay nutcase - that makes me cry!

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By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

“We weren’t in Iraq when we got attacked on September 11. We weren’t in Iraq when thousands of fighters were trained in terror camps,” Mr. Bush (kicking your liberal as-ses, again) said. “We weren’t in Iraq when they first attacked the World Trade Center in 1993. We weren’t in Iraq when they bombed the Cole. We weren’t in Iraq when they blew up our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.”-WashingtonTimes

“Here we are, coming down the stretch in an election campaign, and it’s on the front page of your newspapers,” the president said. “Isn’t that interesting? Somebody has taken it upon themselves to leak classified information for political purposes,” he said of the story, which first appeared Sunday in the New York Times.

He should find that pinko and hang that pinko by it’s neck.

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What should trouble us most about the New York Times story is not the dubious proposition it advances that the war in Iraq has made the struggle against Islamic radicalism more difficult. It is that there are people in the intelligence community who use secret intelligence for partisan political purposes. Even in the unlikely event that the judgments of the NIE were accurately reported, we should not treat them as Holy Writ. It was essentially the same fellows, remember, who missed the warning signs of 9/11, and who concluded that Saddam’s possession of WMD was a “slam dunk.” Mr. Cochran noted that the 1997 NIE on the terrorist threat — the last before 9/11 — mentions Osama bin Laden only as a “terrorist financier,” and mentions al Qaida not at all.-RealClearPolitics

Valerie Plame, anyone?

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All day long yesterday it was established that the report was not complete, that the New York Times was politically censoring parts of it, so how does the Pinko Times headline it this morning?:

Report: Iraq war begets more terror-AJC

They’re good to go with the partisan political version,

By NightTrain

September 27, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

Bill was just trying to protect his legacy or what he thinks will be his legacy. Unfortunately, his only legacy will be the stain on the blue dress.

Bill admitted in a 2002 speech that he had the chance to get bin Laden. Listen to Bill’s own words contradict what he said during the Chris Wallace interview. Although I doubt that this will change anyone perspective as the left does not want to be bothered by the truth.

Or if you really want to know the details of why Bill did not act on his chance to acquire bin Laden, read this report. Again, why let a few facts get in the way of a bunch of lies.

By Eric

September 27, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

The bottom line is NEITHER of the two jackasses we elected President got Bin Ladin…. Clinton was distracted by a women and Bush was distracted by Iraq…

and all the while you idiots argue over partisan BS… Bin Ladin escapes justice.

SCREW Bush and Clinton for being worthless (though completely typical) politicians.

By Chris

September 27, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

RW,

How about what the 9/11 commission report stated about what Clinton left for the Bush Administration. According to that report, then NSA Condi Rice received a comprehensive paper in January 2001 called “Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Networks of Al Qaeda.” That pretty much says it all. Although we are talking about Condi Rice who disregarded a report titled Bin Laden determined to strike inside of America. How much more simple does it need to get for you bozo’s. I know you frown on education, but you don’t have to go around boasting about how dumb and ignorant you are.

Do me a faovr, pull your rat faced head out of your butt for 2 minutes. You just might start seeing things a little different. I know it’s asking a lot, but you might actually understand the difference between the truth and a lie. As an added benefit, I promise you the air is much better outside of your a*. Just try it.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

September 27, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

Greetings, Luckovich bloggers. I am Pope rednecks - Amerikkka’s Al Qaeda I, I post a lot over at the Woo-ten KKKlan board, not very much over here.

Anyhow, one of the gals from here invited me to check it out again.

One good thing - none of those 3-4 page cut and paste spam posts that this blog was famous for today - but there seems to be a lot of robotic mindless kkkonservatism going on, as usual.

Oh well, ladies. Maybe later, but not today.

By Mike

September 27, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

What a load of garbage.

Can one Bush hater (Mikey included) come up with one quote where Bush blames Clinton for 9/11?

Let’s remember what really happened. The interviewer asks Clinton if he could have done more to get Bin-Laden and Clinton starts attacking Bush. Looks like it is Clinton who is looking for the scapegoat, but Mikey blames the victim (as usual).

It is this refusal to address reality that will lead to the Republicans holding Congress. People are just sick if the mindless attacks of mindless haters like Mikey.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

Chris,

I just linked to a PDB that sounded a much more dire warning in 1998. I can open mindedly look back and see that neither administration did enough and I can also look at it realistically that they probably couldn’t have done enough.

Iraq is proof positive that we could not have preemptively attacked Afghanistan.

Sorry that you choose to be a blind ignorant partisan, but it is your choice.

By The Sailor Setting the Record Straight

September 27, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Now look, Andi/e might not be serving in the military, but she is definitely servicing the military.

You go girrrrl,

Love, Sailor

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

Hey Al Qaeda’s Concubine: Those good old boys from Tennessee are calling again about your canoe. They say that shipping it to you Fedex ain’t gonna work. You got to come back and see them again if you want it.

Leroy asked if you could wash up before you come, he said you were a stinky little bitc-h. Or was that mouthy. I forget.

Anyway, they said to tell you that your mum says hi.

By Chris

September 27, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

Mike,

Actually, people are sick of the games being played by the Bush administration. They are sick of the Iraq war which is pointless, they are sick of how the Republicans make every issue a partisan one and they are sick of Bush and his Cronies destroying everything America stands for.

That weasel reporter tried to pull a fast one on President Clinton, but like most conservatives they forget Clinton isn’t a retarted Cowboy like Bush, you aren’t going to get one past President Clinton. He defended his actions and admitted he failed to get Bin Laden, then he pointed out where Bush failed America and where Bush failed America was in not doing anything. Little Bushie was off clearing brush in Crawford while terrorists planned an attack against America.

Why is it so hard for you Conservatives to figure it out. Bush has failed America, and every day more of us Americans are seeing right through their spin.

By Luckovich Censors Chickenhawks

September 27, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this

Bottomline, if it takes killing a few thousand Americans on 9/11 and killing another 3000 soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan to make Clinton look bad, this angry gay chickenhawk is all for it.

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By getalife

September 27, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

Iraq is a disaster

Duh.

By Chris

September 27, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

Andie would never serve in the Military he/she is way to much of a coward to do something like that. I remember a couple months ago Andy was calling me (a Veteran) a pinko and a liberal communist and I challenged that Douche to a fight, well guess who never showed.

Andy has a big mouth, but is a scared little coward. He/she wouldn’t know honor or courage if it hit him/her in the face. Of course why would Andy understand that sort of thing, Andy is a cowardly republican who wants everyone else to fight a war he/she would never fight.

By bon scott

September 27, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

You know that the points Clinton made during the Chris Wallace interview are scoring big when the Gods Of War here sink into criticizing his nose and the cut of his trousers.

It is to laugh!!

Chris,

Here’s what Clinton left for Bush on Osama and Al Qaeda on 1/25/01.

If not a plan, it’s at least a call to arms.

And what did Bush do after getting these heads ups from his predecessor?

Nothing.

By getalife

September 27, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this

Since the gop will not hold them accountable, the Dems are holding a hearing to hold them accountable

gop= no accountability

Dems= accountability

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

By Chris September 27, 2006 10:36 AM

75 and Northside Drive, you choose the time.

By Midori

September 27, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

we know who is in that 36%

By Chris

September 27, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

Bon Scott

Thanks. What kind of nonsense is the right saying now that there is proof that the Bush administration received documents regarding Al Qaeda? My guess is they will start talking about Lewinsky, which is funny because that is exactly what they did when Clinton was in office and he was talking about Afghanistan and terrorism.

By Midori

September 27, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

the George Allen Insult Generator

:)

By Chris

September 27, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

Oh little Andy has decided he wants be a tough guy. I’ll be there today at 3pm. See you there.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

Sybil bon finchie,

Why do you suppose this brilliant “call to arms” wasn’t acted on before 1/20/2001, but on 1/25/2001 it needed to be acted on immediately?

By Mike

September 27, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

Chris -

Why is the reporter a weasel? Because he asked Clinton if he could have done more pre-9/11? Is this some outragous question?

All public officials should have been asked what more they could have done. Apparently, angry liberals think that only Republicans should be scrutinized by the media.

BTW: despite your silly and predictable rant on Bush, this incident had NOTHING to do with him. Of course, like Mikey the bigot, there is no news issue that is not an excuse to attack your favorite whipping boy. Pathetic.

By bon scott

September 27, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

Dear Revisionist Wingnut,

Acting on it immediately would have been great. But check the link I left again.

Bush senior staffers didn’t hold a single meeting on Osama and bin Laden until the week before 9/11. Nearly 8 months later.

A case where “better late” was just as bad as “never”.

Midori,

Interesting Gallup poll. It’s true that you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. The Idiot Emperor Bush I is naked and swinging slowly in the breeze.

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

By Chris September 27, 2006 10:50 AM Oh little Andy has decided he wants be a tough guy. I’ll be there today at 3pm. See you there.

Your life insurance paid up? I’m not a pinko, I’m not going to F around.

By Mike

September 27, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

This is classic liberal thinking. Clinton attacks Bush, but Mikey draws this nonsense claiming that Bush attacks Clinton.

This is standard liberal hypcorisy. Further examples:

Bush says “we are safer than we were, but not safe enough”. Democrats say “we are less safe than we were” Despite this, it is Bush who is accused of “spreading fear”.

Liberals complain that conservative Christians believe that their religious views are “the right ones”. Despite this, liberals constantly accuse conservatives of not being true Christians.

Liberals whine about being “having their patriotism questioned”, yet liberals always accuse Bush of trying to undermine our democracy for the sake of oil.

Liberal=HYPOCRITE

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

Sybil bon finchie,

How do you suppose all those 9/11 commission pages talking about the Bush administration working up a new strategy to wipe out Al Qaeda rather than swatting flies came about with no meetings?

Midori,

Thanks for the link to the Gallup poll asking “Who do you blame more that Bin Laden has NOT YET BEEN CAPTURED” and being portrayed as who do you blame more for 9/11.

I’ll give you a hat tip on my blog post about it if you like.

By Randy

September 27, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

bon scott, Funny how you libs always get to see things in retrospect after the American people have been f*cked by your party’s incompetence.

Direct Attacks on US: In retrospect, we have discovered ties between what we now understand to be the Al Qida network and a series of high profile attacks on the US in the early 1990s.

Thanks for nothing.

By getalife

September 27, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

Chris,

Andy is a female.

Just thought you should know.

By getalife

September 27, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

Mike and Randy,

You seem to have a problem with accountability.

Lets get real, the gop are in total control of government.

Blaming others for their failures makes you cowards who are not man enough to admit mistakes.

Man up or get lost losers.

By Chris

September 27, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

Mike

The interview was supposed to be about Clinton’s Global Initiative. That is what they were taking about when the reporter threw a sucker punch at Clinton by asking that question. Don’t get me wrong, I am glad the reporter did ask that question, but it had nothing to do with the interview.

Imagine what your reaction would have been if it was Bush in that situation. When someone asks you to do an an interview about a particular issue you don’t expect the reporter to abruptly change the topic. Especially when the reporter changes the topic to something as complicated and as politically charged as the question he asked Bill Clinton. Clinton did a great job responding and I can only imagine what Bush would have done in that situation. His little pea sized brain would explode under pressure and he probably would of crapped his pants.

Oh and considering that Bush is the President, he is responsible for what happens to America while he is in office. In that interview Clinton did what a President does and took responsibility for not catching Bin Laden. This incident had everything to do with Bush. That reporter asked Clinton why he didn’t do more to catch Bin Laden, and Clinton recognized the questions for what it was and set the record straight. It was a politically charged question and Clinton didn’t take it lying down. Bush did nothing to try to stop 9/11. Why do you and your other Republican hacks give Bush a pass on that? How can you overlook that he was asleep at the wheel, especially when Bush was given a document from the Clinton Administration that outlined the importance of destroying Al Qaeda and how to do it?

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

Wouldn’t you know it!! Sybil bon finchie’s document catches Billy Jeff in another lie. Sybil’s document says that Al Qaeda attacked the Cole, but President BJ says his bosses at the FBI and CIA wouldn’t certify it.

Now I guess it’s possible that Bubba is being honest for once, but that makes Sybil’s document speculative.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

Chris,

The ground rules for the interview were 7 1/2 minutes on the CGI and 7 1/2 minutes on anything else the reporter chose to ask. It was the same ground rules as the other venues where the “reporters” chose to fellate for their optional minutes.

By Chris

September 27, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this

RW,

Where did you get that information, or did you find it while your head was up your butt?

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

By getalife September 27, 2006 11:25 Chris, Andy is a female. Just thought you should know.

Chris is a pinko too, gitmolife. Always ready to run from the enemy but fight with Americans.

That’s your real enemy.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

Ultimate sweat mopper aka Chris,

It’s been widely reported, one would think that even in the gym stalls in Athens you may have gotten the news

Now show me where that’s been disputed.

By Angry Gay Chickenhawk to Fight Veteran

September 27, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

I’m ready. Gonna slap you silly with my purse.

After that I’ll lick you all over, especially your private parts.

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By Kayvan

September 27, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

Mike,

We like your cartoons & that’s way we have comment.

It was on news last week that former president Clinton & first lady Laura Bush are helping hands for charity on some African nation & Mr. Clinton on Fox news was “keep off” sing & AlQaeda was the “scape Goat”. So today cartoon was reverse.

By My Filthy Mother is On the Rag

September 27, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

And she won’t change my diapers!!

Bwahhhh!

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By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

September 27, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

Hi,gang, again. AJC is Filthy, if you knew me you’d know I am much more likely to be on a yacht than a canoe, and more likely to be with people that bathe than with the rattyass rednecks of Tennessee. That, and my mother has been dead since 2000.

Speaking of mothers and filthy, give my regards to the nastyass skank that whelped you.

Ciao!

By Sublet Denmark

September 27, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

RW, you have already posted a dozen times and that’s 11 X more than your neglected and atrophied and undeveloped brain can express itself. STFU!

You stink, man, you really stink.

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

By Al Qaeda’s Concubine September 27, 2006 12:25 PM Hi,gang, again. AJC is Filthy, if you knew me you’d know I am much more likely to be on a yacht than a canoe, and more likely to be with people that bathe than with the rattyass rednecks of Tennessee. That, and my mother has been dead since 2000.

Oh, listen to the Tennessee State Homosexual Rape Victim, still hasn’t quite got over all the excitement yet.

I don’t blame you for hiding on “your” yacht, that’s where most upper class sissies take their refuge from the big bad world.

You go on and obsess about the men who gave their lives protecting you from America’s enemies so that you can float your boat without a care in your little masturbatory world.

Men that are worth 100 times more than your spoon fed a-ss.

By Midori

September 27, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

Sublet,

at this point he doesn’t even deserve acknowledgement.

That guy is hyped up on some serious kool aid.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

Polly Prepuce,

Are these posts coming out audibly on your computer? That odor is probably the scratch and sniff mouse you’re using.

By Not a Rape Victim

September 27, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

I am not a homosexual rape victim.

You can’t rape the willing.

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By Cal

September 27, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

Only a brain-dead moron like Midori would acknowledge a poster with a comment claiming he shouldn’t be acknowledged.

Stupid is as stupid does and nobody does it better that Midori.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this

Here I try to give Midori some street cred with the “right wingers” and this is the thanks I get.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this

Good point, Cal.

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this

By Cal September 27, 2006 01:18 PM Only a brain-dead moron like Midori would acknowledge a poster with a comment claiming he shouldn’t be acknowledged.

I agree it was pretty stupid but it ranks right up there with some of the most intelligent things Midori has ever said on this blog.

Just hang around a few minutes; you’ll see what I mean.

By polybus

September 27, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

Bush’s Imaginary Foes By Dan Froomkin Special to washingtonpost.com Wednesday, September 27, 2006; 12:48 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

Sybil Bon Finchie ,

Your hilarious claim that Billy Jeff Dick’s performance was a “triumph” in “desperate”.

As to those famous plans to get “Al Qida”: THAT WAS A 3 TO 5 YEAR PLAN. Can you show us where the 8 Month Plan (January 25 2001 to September 10 2001) is hidden???

As to the 3 to 5 year plan, it’s strategy includes “intelligence” but does not make recommendations for legislation to free up our intelligence gathering, such as was implemented with The Patriot Act. It says nothing about breaking down the wall between the CIA and FBI.

Nor is their a plan for an Afghanistan invasion - only for support of The Northern Alliance. They talk about “diplomacy” yet they crow about successful “diplomatic” efforts to get Bin Laden out of the Sudan and into Afghanistan. Rah Rah! Like that really helped.

As far as I can see, if that plan HAD been magically implemented instantly by waving the magic Finchie wand, under then existing Justice Department guidelines, it still would have done nothing to prevent 9/11.

By getalife

September 27, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

Wingnuts, vote Dem for your country

Do it for your country.

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

By polybus September 27, 2006 01:28 PM ——————->Bush’s Imaginary Foes<———- By Dan Froomkin Special to washingtonpost.com Wednesday, September 27, 2006; 12:48 PM

Funny, I don’t remember Bush babbling in full mental post office rage on TV about left wingers and pus-sycons, the way Clinton did.

Hell even Jimmah Cawter with his killer wabbit wasn’t that bad.

By Sublet Denmark

September 27, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Cartoon Idea: Show Heetler reading, “Mein Pet Kampf”, unt his goose-stepford wife Teetler reading “Springtime for Mussolini unt Pussolini”.

By Gay Chickenhawk to Fight Veteran

September 27, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

Well, my mother FINALLY changed my crappy nappies. I told her to rub me all over with baby oil for my big fight today with the veteran.

You better be ready Chris… I’m bringing my whole arsenal with me - tough stares, tears, and my pretty pouty lips.

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By Polly Hates Us KKKrackers

September 27, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

And we Drudgepacker Packers don’t like her either!

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By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

RW,

Poor Polly Prepuce, the washed up comedian, is flat out of new material.

I imagine he suffers from the depresing results of bad performances, reeking of rotten tomatoes and raw eggs (with a touch of vaporub).

Maybe finchie’s asylum will hire him to entertain the moonbats and give him a free room, um, cell.

Andy,

If Clinton’s plan “failed” by his own admission, why would Bush want to utilize it anyway?

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

Look what was lingering around in polybus’ Froomkin link, Remember this old story from Jennifer Loven?

When the president starts a sentence with “some say” or offers up what “some in Washington” believe, as he is doing more often these days, a rhetorical retort almost assuredly follows.

The device usually is code for Democrats or other White House opponents. In describing what they advocate, Mr. Bush often omits an important nuance or substitutes an extreme stance that bears little resemblance to their actual position.

I think I did hear a President saying something like that just the other day. Oh yeah, here it is

By the way, Jennifer Loven is the “reporter” that was made to look like a spoiled 10 year old yesterday by Hamid Karzai.

By Gay Chickenhawk to Fight Veteran

September 27, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Only one more hour to the big fight. Mama had to change my diapers again.

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By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Detective Sybil bon finchie,

When you go on that search for the 8 Month Plan to get Al Qida, you may want to try the Map Room at the White House. It might be mixed up with Rose Law Firm records.

You’re welcome!

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Can’t you just hear the caterwauling if Bush had implemented the non-existent 8-month plan, invaded Afghanistan and the towers got hit anyway?

By Alex

September 27, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this

Let’s break it down real simple like for you right wing types.

Who is President?

Bush.

Who’s told Fred Barnes that he’s not going to touch Osama if he’s in Pakistan?

Bush.

I just wish you guys would wake up and smell the coffee. Clinton is the past. Let’s deal in the now and right now we aren’t doing too hot of a job on islamic terrorism.

It ain’t about Republican or Democrat. It’s a question of whether or not we have a such an incompetent President that he’s setting us back a long ways in the battle against terrorism. I, and most the country, has arrived at the conclusion that things are not going well and the folks on top need to be responsible.

Take of the partisan blinders and approach this as an American. Read reports from home and abroad. Talk to an Iraq vet about Mission-Drive-Around-in-Circles-until-They-Blow-Us-Up. Get the facts from real sources. Not Limbaugh. Not FoxNews. Get educated.

I think partisanship is keeping this country from moving forward in a big way. I think we have lousy leadership in Washington and I think we need to address this. The war on terror can be won, but it won’t be by this bunch.

By NoAmericanTaliban

September 27, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this

Great Cartoon - Mike. I love it. Surprised you are even showing that drunk crackhead reading anything.

By @@

September 27, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

ml: Never let it be said that @@ is not fair and balanced. I wanted to share an equally absurd (subscription only) (((“POT TO KETTLE’))) moment with you.

From Iran………

{{{The United Kingdom must stop supporting terrorist and separatist organizations that threaten Iran’s territorial integrity, Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Ali Hosseini said Sept. 27. The United Kingdom recently dismissed charges against a man accused of an attack against the Iranian Embassy in London, a move Tehran said encouraged terrorism.}}}

A friend of yours????

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

By Alex September 27, 2006 02:13 PM Take of the partisan blinders and approach this as an American. Read reports from home and abroad. Talk to an Iraq vet about Mission-Drive-Around-in-Circles-until-They-Blow-Us-Up. Get the facts from real sources. Not Limbaugh. Not FoxNews. Get educated.

You, clown, can read what ever you want and babble like a hysteritic. I will take comfort in the fact that 3000 people haven’t gotten slaughtered at work since Bush started taking it to the terrorist’s a-ss.

Which is something Billy never did.

Thank you, Mr. Bush.

By getalife

September 27, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

Nice post Alex but these wingnuts never blame w for anything.

Hell @@ thinks ml is an Iranian terrorist.

Shees.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

RW,

They would have caterwauled under any circumstances.

“No blood for opium”! ~ “Save the poppies!” ~ “End the illegal occupation of Afghanistan now!”

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

Careful getalife,

You almost let your old self shine through on your 2:24.

Sorry @@ but that one from getalife cracked me up.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Do you see any specific suggestions from wide-eyed Alex as to how to “move forward”?

Neither did I.

By What's the point

September 27, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this

Is there any good reason for keeping this country in business? Let’s just split it at the Mississippi. You (whoever you are) have the west side; we (whoever we are) take the east. We say good riddance to you; you say good riddance to us. And we live more or less happily ever after. We won’t have to deal with you, and you won’t have to deal with us.

By bon scott

September 27, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

No matter how the wingnuts twist it, the fact remains that Bush Inc. did absolutely nothing about Osama Inc. from 1/20/01 to 9/11/01.

They just couldn’t be bothered.

Alex, “Mission-Drive-Around-in-Circles-until-They-Blow-Us-Up” is a keeper. Thanks.

By @@

September 27, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this

getalife: You used to be able to recognize sarcastic humor. Too bad you’ve been overcome with “swamp fever”.

I’ve looked everywhere for a still photo of “Clinton in Rage”, was hoping for a side by side, but alas…..this is all I could find for his troubles.

Amazing resemblance, don’t you think getalife?

By getalife

September 27, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

Sorry @@,

Here is some interesting reading

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

The real kicker would be that they would be saying that Bush caused us to be attacked with his misguided adventure in Afghanistan, while the real threat was Iraq and Bush was just letting Saddam off the hook so his buddies could get rich on Iraqi oil and the Afghani war machine.

Saddam would by God have WMD’s in that scenario. Reid, Pelosi, the Swimmer, etal would tell us that 600 times a day.

By @@

September 27, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

RW: If there’s anyone on this board that I’d love to have back, it’s getalife. We never had to agree, we just had to enjoy life.

We’ll see what my last post gets from “get”.

By getalife

September 27, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

BD,

I have not read where anybody does not want to get OBL in Afghanistan.

Remember when the whole world was with us before w decided to invade Iraq?

Don’t be ridiculous.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Detective finchie,

Isn’t the free market a marvelous thing!

~7-Eleven Dropping Venezuela-Backed Citgo~

{{7-Eleven spokesman Margaret Chabris said that, “Regardless of politics, we sympathize with many Americans’ concern over derogatory comments about our country and its leadership recently made by Venezuela’s president Hugo Chavez.”}}

Chabris said a boycott of Citgo gasoline would hurt the 4,000 employees of the U.S. subsidiary, who have no connection to Venezuela.

I told ya! And to think you tried to slander me as a supporter of Chavez because I said EXACTLY what Chabris said.

One more defeat for endangered finchie bird!

Ha!

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

@@,

When I post this cartoon at after dark I’ll put up a side by side if you get me your favorite ones to use.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

What’s the Point,

Sorry, but YOU get the West Side and WE get the East Side.

By getalife

September 27, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

Not even close @@ but do you remember where they found this kook.

I always said we should of dropped a grenade in that spider and get the hell out to finish the job in Afghanistan.

By getalife

September 27, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

I like this one @@

No fever but reality sux.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this

“Remember when the whole world was with us before w decided to invade Iraq?”

Getalife,

???????

So…if we had invaded Afghanistan BEFORE 9/11, was team getalife going to be with us or against us??

By @@

September 27, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

getalife:

Why do you hate Canadians and Mexicans? :-)

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this

This one isn’t bad, but no pointing finger

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this

RW,

Your 2:20 is exactly right. You just neglected to mention Haliburton and Karl Rove.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

I don’t mean to intrude on your conversation with @@ but I have some questions:

After we killed Saddam, what happened next? Who filled the power vacuum? Did Uday or Qusay take over? Or did Zarqman move right in? Some other scenario?

By @@

September 27, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

getalife:

I like that one too Getalife. If I had a nickle for everytime I made that exact same face, I’d be able to pay all your medical bills.

Maybe Canada can since the kids don’t carry money at school. Chavez is sending all his afflicted to Cuba for medical attention. You can get cigars there, and Cuban babes.

I want America to stay right where it is on domestic policy issues, with a little tweaking from conservatives.

Reality is what you make it Getalife, the rest is just inconvenience.

I’ve gotta leave for awhile.

By @@

September 27, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

RW: Great choice for the side by side. Put it next to the “SoDamn Insane” I linked to.

Now I’m gone.

By @@

September 27, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

Oops Getalife, let me reword my 2:59. “The rest is unfortunate circumstance.”

I am sensitive to our troops, and thankful that they protect you and me.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this

RW,

I meant to say that your 2:40 was exactly right!

I love that picture of Billy Jeff, but I’m not sure he looks QUITE angry enough. Maybe if Hillary threw an ashtray at him…

By getalife

September 27, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

BD,

The majority silly. The Shiites have the power and Iran is loving it.

Makes wonder about the planning of this failed war.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Iraq was a democracy with “majority rule”?

By RE

September 27, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this

We have to keep fighting them over there so that there are enough terrorists to fight in the future.

By RE

September 27, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Looks like little andy went off for his 3:00 fight, unless he is hiding under the bed

By Jenn

September 27, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this

Mike, you’ve got to be kidding…
Clinton was too busy with Monica and Cuban cigars in the oval office to care about UBL. Most people know that, oh, except the die hard Clinton fans…

By Jenn

September 27, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this

What would the Dems be saying if Gore were in office at the time of the attacks? Who would they blame then?

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Does Hillary wear Prada?

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this

~Al-Qaida honcho to comment on Pope, Bush, Darfur in message, web posting says~

Be patient. He’s just checking with Howard Dean to make sure he’s got all the Democrat Party talking points down just right.

By Truthman

September 27, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

X-lent Mike!

“Oh the wicked web we weave when first we practice to deceive!”

Shakespeare (he was a writer, wingnuts).

By Cubby

September 27, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

The cartoon I found rather entertaining personally however, the comments in this blog I found mostly rather appalling. In my opinion, discourse such as what’s outlined here illustrates the real problem in politics as a whole today. I’ve read over comments through this blog and have read far more insults and accusations that those opposite the writers politically are stupid, naïve and/or against America. While the current issue in Iraq can be laid pretty much at the feet of those who set this war in motion and have overseen it, the overarching issues facing us require a bi-partisan response. Unfortunately in this political climate, the Republicans have started a process in the past decade in elections and campaigns whereby they prefer to slime their opponent rather than discuss what they do. This of course has caused those on the left to react similarly and often more vocally/disrespectfully. Especially as anyone who did not agree was not and is not listened to. While we may not agree with someone, even those we don’t like can have a good idea. It’s high time to stop the insults and actually for once show others the respect we demand of our own statements, thoughts and ideas. Remember, everyone you call an idiot in this forum is a human being who holds their views as dearly and closely as you hold your own—and act accordingly. Liberalism and conservatism are just labels that get reaction—neither ideology is actually practiced by the parties anymore. Conservatism particularly is dead and that should be quite upsetting to those who are textbook conservatives such as myself. Thank you.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

Truthman,

Talking about your boy Billy Jeff I see. Yep, that Bard of Avon was one smart dude.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this

Cubby the “Conservative”,

Anymore BS you want to pitch our way?

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

I was at the BP, 75 and Northside Drive, 3 o’clock, the real good looking gentleman leaning on the front of the pretty black Silverado 4X4 Crew Cab for over a half of an hour.

I didn’t see any sissy looking little bitc-hes.

Why didn’t you show, veteran?

By Huge

September 27, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

“What would the Dems be saying if Gore were in office at the time of the attacks? Who would they blame then?”

In many cases, probably the same thing the far right gop “faithful” are doing now - blaming anybody and everybody that ever preceded them (as long as they were in the other political party, of course), but not “their guy”. He is completely and utterly without sin or shortcoming in this regard, right?

So, answer your own question. What would YOU have said? From your first sophomoric post, I have a pretty good idea.

By Not My Fault I Missed the Fight

September 27, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

I peed my diaper (again) and Mommy got so upset that she wouldn’t drive me to the fight.

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By RE

September 27, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

For a little humor, read this clip of Tony Snow trying to find a way around the finding that the war in Iraq is creating more terrorists.

“Q But you’re making a distinction that the report doesn’t make. I mean, the report says, using the word “jihadist,” it says, “We judge that most jihadist groups — both well known and newly formed — will use improvised explosive devices and suicide attack.” It says, “CBRN capabilities will continue to be sought by jihadist groups.”

They’re saying jihadists, not terrorists. If Iraq is creating more jihadists, doesn’t that according to the logic of the report mean that it’s creating more terrorists?

MR. SNOW: Okay, it’s creating more people who want to commit acts of terror. And it gets back to the practical judgment, which is neither addressed nor answered in here, and I will try to get “greater granularity” for you, about whether or not the operational capability is the same.”

See, Tony shows the difference between a Jihadist, a terrorist, and a jihadist planning to commit terror. I never thought there was much of a difference

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

This is two days in a row we’ve gotten some long winded lecture telling us that Republicans started getting mean and nasty and the poor Democrats finally had to start responding in kind.

Where were you clowns during the Reagan administration? I suggest you go back and read the things that were said by you gentle little lamb liberals back then.

By Huge

September 27, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

Well said, Cubby! Well said.

But as you can see from the first response, some here are absolutely, diametrically opposed to reasoned and reasonable discourse, such as yours. So this place is, much of the time, what I call, “an insane asylum with the inmates in charge”!

And your point about conservatism is spot-on. That’s why one of the worst of the worst here took exception to it so in that 4:51. She fancies herself a “conservative”, but probably couldn’t even begin to tell anyone here what that means. It just sounds good. So, instead, she does little more than spew her daily vitriol and acts righteously indignant when people call her on it. And many, many have, but it hasn’t helped.

Oh well, keep on posting brother Cubby! I, for one, would love to read more from you.

By getalife

September 27, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

Well, they are passing the detainee bill to pardon w for war crimes.

Amazing of what our government is capable of and am sure people will not send their kids into battle for these criminals.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

Truthless,

Is this the “Shakespeare” you’re looking for?

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

Huge Bloviator,

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

Danish: When the pinkos start calling themselves “conservative” and begging us to please, let’s just get along, that means that we are kicking thier as-ses up and down the street and they would very much like us to stop.

At least until they get another clear shot at your throat.

Never let them up when you have them down.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this

RW,

Thanks for the literature lesson. I should have known better than to take anything “truthman” comes up with at face value.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

Andy,

It’s their rhetorical trick of saying “textbook conservative,” most of us on the right are probably “textbook liberals.”

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I think Cubby is what Rush calls a “seminar caller”.

By Pete H

September 27, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Interesting how the right wing pundits and bloggers have attacked the way Clinton responded and not what he actually said (which is true).

They’ve characterized his response as “ranting and raving” when they should be following up on the fact that his administration (in the person of Richard Clarke) issued a memo to Condoleezza Rice on al-Qaeda.

The memo is dated January 25, 2001. It was titled “Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Networks of al-Qida: Status and Prospects.”

He ends the report with the line “We would make a major error if we underestimated the challenge al Qaeda poses.”

The Bush administration did not call a meeting to discuss the report until September 4, 2001.

I don’t know about you, but that sure sounds like a “strategy” to me, even though Condi came out this week denying it existed.

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

RW,

That 5:40 is really going to get those “textbook conservatives” riled up now!

By Textbook Chickenhawks

September 27, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

That’d be me and the Drudgepacker Packers.

Cut

I HATE THE AJC AND LUCKOVICH AND MY FILTHY MOTHER

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

NEW YORK - Fox News chief Roger Ailes says former President Clinton’s response to Chris Wallace’s question about going after Osama bin Laden represents “an assault on all journalists.” Ailes said Clinton had a “wild overreaction” in the interview, broadcast on “Fox News Sunday.”

Good news is at least it wasn’t a another woman that Clinton was assualting, although I’m sure he’s made up for it since then.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

I’m starting to believe Andy’s right about the DNC robots posting to blogs. It doesn’t matter how many times you point out the twisting of facts and outright lies from Billy Jeff’s hissy fit along comes robot PeteH to tell you haven’t pointed any of it out.

By Huge

September 27, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this

“Where were you clowns during the Reagan administration? I suggest you go back and read the things that were said by you gentle little lamb liberals back then.”

Wonder if that has anything to do with governor ronnie’s fond comments about the anti-war crowd in california?

But your point is well taken. The hippies and their like were merciless on ronald ray-gun. But they were by and large, unempowered kids.

However, it was our very own, very unfaithful Newt and his gang that gave birth to the scorched-earth destructiveness and angry hyperpartisan rantings we see today in Washington. Civility went out the door with Gingrich in the ‘80’s, when he published his list of all the nasty words Republican candidates were supposed to use when referring to Democrats.

The point is that that those men and their political progeny, on both sides, are professional sleaze balls. And they’re in power and supposed to be leading our nation! Is it any wonder at all, that blogs like this are filled with the same insults and garbage?

By Buy Danish

September 27, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

Pete H,

Pay attention. We’ve been all through this business about the 1/25/2001 memo today and your side lost the argument in a smackdown.

By getalife

September 27, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

Whaaa, Clinton was mean.

No wonder we are getting our a-ss kicked.

Bunch of whiny wingnuts trying to go fight a war.

Shees.

How pathetic.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this

Huge revisionist,

It was more than a few hippies taking shots at Reagan.

Look up Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr if you really want to see contentiousness.

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this

By Pete H September 27, 2006 05:45 PM Interesting how the right wing pundits and bloggers have attacked the way Clinton responded and not what he actually said (which is true).

Hey Pete: Maybe you would like to show us a copy of the “plan” Clinton gave to Bush?

Having a hard time finding it?

You think that might be because the Clinton “plan” was to do NOTHING and that’s what they left for Bush was NOTHING?

It isn’t like in between 1992 and 2000 he did ANYTHING, after all.

By Pete H

September 27, 2006 06:10 PM | Link to this

Hey RW,

Thanks for proving my point. You responded with insults, but not to what I wrote. I am saying that Clinton said they left a strategy paper. They did. It’s the truth, no matter what Bush’s proxy Condi says about it. Do you deny (or can you) that what I wrote is true?

I’ll answer that one for you. You can’t, because it is. So, go ahead a toss around a few more insults, because it’s what your type does when faced with undeniable facts.

Oh, yeah, and I don’t work for the DNC. I just don’t like what I’m seeing from our current government.

By @@

September 27, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

What would I say if Gore were in office?

Al, when I reflect back on your time in office, January 20, 1993 - January 20, 2001, two words sometimes come to mind….hot & cold, but always “f”rigid.

Now, explain to us again how the world became so heated during that time?

What’s that? You need to ask Bill.

Watch out, he’ll try to blind you with that finger of his.

By bon scott

September 27, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this

The debate continues over how much Clinton could have done and actually did about Osama and al Qaeda.

But there’s no real debate over what Bush did about Osama and al Qaeda before 9/11.

Absolutely nothing.

Which means, my Copenhagen cutie, it is you and your fellow morans who have been smacked down.

You’re welcome.

And Revisionist Wingnut, if you could, please enlighten us further about the earthshakingly powerful renegades who mercilessly hounded Reagan during and after his White House tenure.

Good luck.

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) September 27, 2006 05:55 PM I’m starting to believe Andy’s right about the DNC robots posting to blogs.

Speaking of which, I was wrong about the finchie rowbutt needing to be updated; it is the most current model. I forgot that the DNC hasn’t had any new ideas in twenty five years so there’s nothing to update finchie robot with.

As long as they keep it’s battery charged and reboot it every now and again, we’re doomed to keep hearing the same sh-it over and over and over again.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 06:17 PM | Link to this

@@,

I did a screen shot of Billy Jeff’s tantrum to place beside your picture of Saddam’s. See if that one will do, since it’s real life.

By Pete H

September 27, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

Hey, Filthy American Rag,

They got this thing called “yahoo!” Maybe you heard of it. Try typing in “Richard Clarke memo.”

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this

Blowhard: Reagan had more brain power than the entire bloc of Kerry voters put together and you clown liberals responded to that challenge by calling him a dunce.

All that did was reveal who the real dunces were.

You started it.

Crybaby.

By bon scott

September 27, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this

Given the abundance of evidence against them, I suggest that the wingnut BushBots here embrace the time-honored strategy that’s a cornerstone of chickenhawk philosophy.

Slip quietly away and hope nobody notices.

By Huge

September 27, 2006 06:28 PM | Link to this

Oh my poor RW,

I’d love to see the vast collection of those meany lib comments about your beloved ronnie! I’m sure it would dwarf the encyclopedia brittanica!

And comparing battle-hardened men of honor and courage with 1980’s republicans is rich!!!

But nice dodge on the scumbag tactics of your boy newt. Someday after those two mental giants from the very far right define conservatism for us all, textbook, or otherwise, we absolutely must get into this topic of gingrich’s civility and it’s consequences some more!

Off to din-din. Flame away, wingnuts!

By bon scott

September 27, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

“You started it.” “Crybaby.”- Andy, you are SOOOO mature!

Here’s something from the “picture worth 1000 words” file. An artistic interpetation of a really offensive comment by Bush:

When the final history is written on Iraq, it’ll look like just a comma.

Just look at all those commas!

Goodnight! Don’t drink too much now, Andy!

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

It’s just like old times. Bill Clinton delivers an impassioned speech, and within 24 hours the Web is bristling with documentation, establishing that nearly every sentence was a lie.

First cut from Annie, I haven’t read the whole thing by I like the start.

By @@

September 27, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

Here you go bon scott or “whatever”.

The nasty comments were from the liberals. Be sure and scroll down so you can deliver an honest assessment.

There’s more if you care to see them. Media articles, leftist blogsites. It’ll take awhile to gather them all.

A shameful display.

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this

WTH spawned that response from Huge,

I think this guy may just be bi-polar.

huge,

How the hell is pointing out there was a time when contentiousness meant somebody died over disagreements in politics comparing them with ANYBODY?

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this

Sybil bon finchie,

If you want to see how your argument has been shredded put down the mirror and read the comments between yours. You can do that daily so there’s no need to go back over today’s foolishness from you.

The Sybil bon finch solution: Here’s a plan that’s been a total failure—quick do it some more!!

Sybil,

Answer my question from up there about whether Billy Jeff was lying or Clarke was making stuff up in his memo in reference to the Cole.

By getalife

September 27, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this

How many personalities to you have posting here RW?

By Pete H

September 27, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

Hey Filth, (you don’t mind if I call you Filth, do you?)

How about bombing bin-Laden’s camps in ‘98? Compare that to seeing (but probably not reading) “Bin-Laden determined to attack within the United States” and then going fishing. Which would you rather your commander-in-chief do?

By RW-(the original)

September 27, 2006 06:59 PM | Link to this

PeteH,

Next time you are on your precious Yahoo search try “12/4/1998 PDB”

getalife,

One, thanks for asking an almost literate question.

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

By Pete H September 27, 2006 06:53 PM Hey Filth, (you don’t mind if I call you Filth, do you?)How about bombing bin-Laden’s camps in ‘98?

Oh, yeah, that took Bin Laden right out of the picture, I forgot.

(Is this guy for real or am I missing something here?)

By The AJC Is A Filthy Anti American Rag

September 27, 2006 07:04 PM | Link to this

Hey finchie: Drink this.

By David A. Cobb

September 28, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this

Without commenting on the content of the cartoon, except to say I agree with it, I am struck by one thing. Sadly, the intellectual content of the commentary is at the level of today’s political debate.

The yahoos of the right have nothing better to bring to the debate than “So’s your old man!” And, sadly, the left hasn’t much more than to say “Is NOT!”

By ed lorenzo

September 28, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

CONDI VS CLINTON

ATT: RV

Sorry ran out of time this morning. At 39 thou feet and a bit of turbulence it is hard to concentrate. You are right, there is a good story there. Perhaps tomorrow A-M I’ll plug in the rest.Keep the line open. Ciao!

By Henry Hibbert

September 29, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this

Dick Cheney and George Bush’s bank statements: “Mission Accomplished”

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