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9/11 Speech
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By Mike
September 13, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this
Talk about boring. Have you read the same pathetic screeds that Bookman (“Bush is bad because war is bad”) and Tucker (“Bush is bad because most white people are bad”) churn out?
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this
Mr. Pariser’s letter to the Anti-Defamation League claims MoveOn members “rose to sharply criticize the hate speech that was posted — even before it was brought to our attention.” But MoveOn monitors deleted criticisms from Bill Levinson of Israpundit.com well before it deleted anti-Semitic rants. Meanwhile, a post claiming “Jews control all the media” was made on Aug. 17, which is after MoveOn claims it “discovered” the problem. Judging by its actions in the wake of this scandal and the tone of the paper, we can say with “a margin of safety” that MoveOn still has a Jewish problem. So do the candidates who fail to renounce the support MoveOn is giving them.-WashingtonTimes
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I am angry that the media chooses not to routinely show images from 9/11, but can’t seem to get enough of images of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. The reason why we have troops fighting abroad — that’s too disturbing to broadcast, too damaging to the American psyche. But images of torture, supposedly the American public can handle that.-AmericanSpectator
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And what are we to think of Bill Clinton lamenting the movie’s supposed deviation from the “truth”, or Sandy Berger’s concern about protocols, or Madeline Albright’s apparent charge of partisanship, this from a former Secretary of State who has traveled the globe plugging her book by faulting her successors to foreign media in a time of war. Although I’m not a fan of docudramas, I found The Path to 9/11, with its disclaimers, far closer to the “truth” about the saga of bin Laden than what turned up in Bill Clinton’s “factual” autobiography.-RealClearPolitics
By Brian Curtis
September 13, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this
It’s good to know that Bush’s policies have made us safer, but at the same time we’re in imminent danger at every waking moment!
These guys really need to coordinate their message a bit better. Fearmongering at the same time you want to take credit for keeping everybody safe doesn’t come off too well.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this
This rough beast slouches toward sedition because it assumes not that our leaders are knaves or even mere criminals, but that they are murderous Supermen with no loyalty to nation, decency or law. Our Constitution is a fraud, a charade for the rubes some of us naively call citizens. If you disagree, you’re either fool or “in on it.”. More than a third of Americans believe the U.S. government was likely to have been involved in 9/11.-RealClearPolitics
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That the Clinton administration folks believed it necessary to send their former national security adviser, Sandy Berger, out on the interview circuit to defend its national security performance, exactly one year after Berger was sentenced in federal court to community service and probation for stealing classified documents from the National Archives, was perhaps the ultimate irony.-AJC
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Specifically, the current clamor revolves around a scientific absurdity: that unless we drastically cut our emissions of carbon dioxide in the next nine years, there will be an irreversible climate catastrophe caused by the rapid shedding of Greenland and Antarctic ice. (While climate populists still say “ten years,” they’ve been making this claim for a year now. Time marches on.)-AmericanSpectator
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About the only thing the CO2 cap is likely to achieve is to empower the politicians to meddle ever more deeply in the state’s economy — which itself would cost lots of jobs as businesses move elsewhere or fail to be formed in the first place.-NYSun
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Today’s cartoon that doesn’t suck!
By George
September 13, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this
Great Toon ML!!
Operation Bore is a perfect description of Bumbya’s speech.
By Mike
September 13, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this
I love how Bush is accused of “fearmongering” by partisan fools.
Bush says “We are safer, but not safe enough.”
Bush’s critics say “We are less safe now because of Iraq and lack of attention to homeland security.”
Why is Bush the fearmonger again?
Liberal=Hypocrite
By Eric
September 13, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this
I love Mike and Jay Bookman! They’re among the few in Ga who have the balls to speak the truth. Luckily for me, since Dubya makes my skin crawl, I don’t watch and therefore he doesn’t bore me to death. Funny cartoon though.
By Scott T. Issue
September 13, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this
Without “You’re right, Where is Osama” I’d have to work harder to find poop to scoop.
By George
September 13, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this
OK, I’m having trouble remembering how many last throes this makes.
U.S. and Iraqi leaders say that the biggest threat to Iraq no longer comes from the three-year-old revolt among ousted president Saddam Hussein’s fellow Sunni Muslims but from conflict between Sunnis and the Shiite majority now in power.
By Assbuilder
September 13, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this
Hello Kitty nice!
By @@
September 13, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this
I’m really enjoying Andy’s “cartoons that don’t suck” ml. They bring a fair and balanced perspective to the otherwise consistent “liberal” incontinence problem suffered by the AJC.
I found this excerpt from his AJC link interesting:
{{{That former President Clinton chose to use his still-considerable prestige to complain petulantly about how he was portrayed in a made-for-TV movie, rather than constructively add to the debate over these and many other substantive issues, is a sad testament to the self-centered nature of his personality.}}}
{{{That the American public did not and still does not demand more of him and other public officials —- or of the media outlets that pander to such narcissism —- is much more troubling.}}}
DEMAND MORE OF MEDIA OUTLETS THAT PANDER???
I guess you support Andy’s objective here then. I know I do.
As to your cartoon ml. The speech may be redundant, but I’ve found that when children are liberal in their tantrums, you have to wait for them to calm down before your point can’t be made. Liberal adults have less self-discipline than children.
See above example of Clinton’s petulance as a prime example.
By @@
September 13, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this
Correction…”before your point CAN be made.”
By What is this cut stuff?
September 13, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this
Enough with the CUT crap. Give us all a break.
By getalife
September 13, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this
Nobody, except the ignorant minority listens to w. He has no credibility none.
One moron had the nerve to quote this lying liar.
Same ole scare tactic bs and the sheep eat it up.
Amazing.
By @@
September 13, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this
Correction….”before a point “CAN” be made.”
By Cal
September 13, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this
Lunatic liberals suffer from A.D.D. Why is that Bush’s fault?
Scratch that question. In a looney liberal mind everything is Bush’s fault.
By jpetz
September 13, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this
3/4 of the world can’t be wrong
To Bush supporters: why is it all of you cannot comprehend why so much of the world is upset with President Bush? Is it possible most of the world is wrong and Bush is right about Iraq?
That is indeed a stretch considering that Bush now admits Hussein had zero involvement with 9/11 nor did anyone in his country. Moreover, the Senate report reluctantly confirmed last week what most intelligent folk alreday knew: Hussein and no connections to bin Laden, Zarqawi, or Al-Quada. In fact, he despised all these lunatics because they would have brought instability to his government.
Yet here we are in Iraq with no ryhme nor reason. Here, Bush continues to lie to the world on why we are in Iraq. His credibility is zero because all the reasons for going into Iraq proved to be ill-founded. Why doesn’t Bush just admit he screwed up, ask Democrats for advice on how to resolve the situation in Iraq, and move on? If he did, his popularity would increase because Americans are great at forgiveness. But Bush abhors admitting mistakes and is going to ruin his legacy because of it.
By Blog Simple
September 13, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this
The Iraq War is Hillary Clinton’s fault: she wasn’t woman enough to keep Bill from getting a Lewinski which distracted him from killing Osama which would have prevented 911, and which would have had Gore elected.
Bush only won in 2000 because the entire nation rejected Bill Clinton’s sex act, which brought down Gore with it.
‘muff said.
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this
jputz,
So all Bush has to do to be loved by one and all is become a raving moonbat like yourself?
Too funny! Why aren’t you in Havana with your idols?
By bon scott
September 13, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this
Good Lord Almighty! Did anyone read the rest of the “Clinton/Sandy Berger and the 9/11 movie” link so thoughtfully posted by the RMD (Resident Moran Drunk)? I know RMD didn’t.
Here’s some of the rest of Bob Barr’s column in today’s AJC:
it is a certainty that many Americans are more cognizant of the merits of this “docudrama” than of the truly important matters working their way through the Congress. In ways most Americans never dream of, this legislation will deeply affect how much freedom they, their children and grandchildren will enjoy.
For example, how many Americans have even a passing awareness that very shortly Congress may very well pass laws… that would authorize this and future presidents to tap into their phone and e-mail communications without fear of interference by the courts?
How many of those who watched “The Path to 9/11” know that a battle of historic proportions is brewing in the federal courts… a dispute that may very well determine whether future presidents will have to abide by the laws of our land or can with impunity ignore them?
Aside from these and other issues involving the loss of civil liberties here at home as a direct result of the federal government’s grab for post-Sept. 11 power, there are legion questions of importance to the American homeland…
Barr chides Clinton for letting Berger defend him over a silly TV show. But he eviscerates Emperor Bush and his handlers for their arrogance. Their incompetence goes without saying.
Hey drunk, thanks for the link!
By Dusty
September 13, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this
This cartoon is hardly worth a comment. Citizens who cannot watch the President’s short speech without getting bored are very suspect. They probably want more soap opera scenarios, lotsa sex, “off color” jokes and Judge Judy. The president offered none of that. Just concern for our country which Luckovich characters never exhibit. A “pox” on lazy minds and Luckovich who presents them daily.
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this
finch,
At least you read Andy’s links. It might surprise people to know that he links to stories that spark interest and could provide material for debate if you losers would grow up, rather than just link to a bunch of loopy leftist sites like Trouthout of Huff&Puff.
By bon scott
September 13, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this
And a hat tip and a wink to @@, who quoted from the same Bob Barr column. You didn’t really read it either, did you?
Maybe you and the drunk can carpool to a reading comprehension class. I suggest that you drive.
By Thomas
September 13, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this
@@ — You find that AJC link interesting?
Well ok — It is from Bob Barr — and it is directed towards Clinton — and we all know (here in Georgia) how much Bob just adores Clinton — Right?
Fair and balaced? I think not!
By getalife
September 13, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this
Yes jpetz,
The world thinks we are stupid to support the cheerleader like RW but if we protest we get this
By rushncap
September 13, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this
Great toon (as usual) Mike! As Jon Stewart said “say what you will about Bush’s speech, at the end of it, his Presidency is 15 minutes shorter.” That’s about it.
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this
The left is all swooning over a movie where an unruly crowd takes over the motorcade and murders President Bush on the streets of Chicago, of course CNN and getalife want to make sure there is no crowd control.
Bonnie finch or should I call you seeker,
Did you see the 10:31? Now there is someone that deserves your derision, but I doubt you have the little yellow balls to chastise one of your own.
By bon scott
September 13, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this
How do you handle a country that provided 15 of the 19 hijackers who killed on 9/11?
What sanctions are weighed against a country whose state religion is Wahhabi Muslim, a faith that controls the schools where kids are taught that the US is the Great Satan and Israel should be vaporized? A land whose citizens have provided much of the funding for al Qaeda?
Why, let the best and the brightest from their state run madrasa hate teaching machines COME TO AMERICA!!
MANHATTAN, Kan. — Thousands of students from Saudi Arabia are enrolling on college campuses across the United States this semester under a new educational exchange program brokered by President Bush and Saudi King Abdullah.
The program will quintuple the number of Saudi students and scholars in the United States by the academic year’s end.
The kingdom’s royal family — which is paying full scholarships for most of the 15,000 students…
FIFTEEN THOUSAND??? Hey, it’s in the Washington Times. It must be true! :-)
But little old ladies still have to dump their Chanel at airport checkpoints. It’s the FEAR, man!! BE AFRAID!!
Well, I’m scared. Here we have an administration that screams FEAR as justification for worthless anti-terror exercises that range from the silly to the downright grotesque, like that bloody pit in Iraq…
And they’re letting enough potential terrorists in to fill a small city? And we’re going to sucessfully screen and sanitize every last one of them? Guaranteed?
Remember, it takes just one.
It truly is the incompetence, stupid.
By @@
September 13, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this
Actually “Bonfire Stench” I did read the entire link. The remainder of the article is up for debate.
I certainly wasn’t afraid to reference it and neither was Andy. Unlike some here, a conservative’s intent is not to conceal the truth, but to move forward. I don’t see how anybody could admire Clinton’s behavior when the movie clearly displayed flaws within the Bush administration as well. Bush and Republicans didn’t react like a bunch of crybaby losers.
Look at Thomas, a liberal, he discounts the article as biased, while you, a liberal can’t contain your excitement over what you’ve found that implicates Bush. It’s hard for liberals to find the same page when you’re all so lost I suppose.
I’ll have to check in later. I’m out the door.
By Thomas
September 13, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this
RW —
I was refferring to @@ snippit (or shall we say soundbite) of the opinion Bob made, not deriding the entire Bob opinion in the least seeing as I thought the overall opinion was well stated.
I just pointed out that Bob hates Clinton and anything he says about Clinton will; be negative.
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this
bonnie bigot,
I thought our universities were supposed to be the great and wonderful diversity training grounds that meld people into a peace loving interactive society?
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this
Thomas,
I guess using your “logic” we can discount what all the Bush haters say about him. SWEET!!!
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
By bonnie ball chaser September 13, 2006 10:57 AM The kingdom’s royal family — which is paying full scholarships for most of the 15,000 students…FIFTEEN THOUSAND??? And they’re letting enough potential terrorists in to fill a small city?
Racist. Ku Klux Klan grand poobah. Pointy cap cross burning clown.
By jputz September 13, 2006 10:00 AM 3/4 of the world can’t be wrong
Yes they can, let’s just have a look at the pinko senator your whole entire story is based on and see what he says:
Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said Friday. “I have admitted that my vote was wrong.”
See, he voted for it before he voted against it.
You sucker libs should be asking yourself when, and I’m talking about if EVER, the drive by media has ever gotten one of their Bush slanders right.
Name one.
You’re a dupe, a sap and a sucker for what ever you hear from these degenerates.
Plamegate?
Medicare part B?
The draft?
Civil war in Iraq?
Bird flu?
Anything?
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this
The conventional wisdom that sending more troops now would hurt Bush politically might well be erroneous, for a reason that Bush himself points out: “I believe that people who try to interpret the polls and all that stuff misread the American mentality. The American mentality is: We want to win. They’re not saying, leave; they’re saying, we want to win. And if you can’t win, what the heck are you doing there? That’s what they want.”-NationalReview
By Thomas
September 13, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
RW —
By using my logic - why yes you can flat out discount “some” of what Bush Haters say about him, just as you can flat out discount “some” of what Bush worshippers say about him as well.
No one (including myself) is 100% perfect, or 100% imperfect.
Thomas
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this
It looks like Karl Rove has forced another Democrat into a life of corruption
Do you guys EVER take responsibility for your actions?
And finch, before you start drooling all over the blog I read the part that says the Republicans might lose the Senate. I’m pretty sure that part was added for comic relief, but I read it.
By Blog Simple
September 13, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this
Will the Sunnis, alarmed by the movement in the Iraqi Parliament toward secession of the Sunni/Shia/Kurd triad into three distinct countries, be more apt to press for a ratification of the constitution and subsequent peace in Iraq?
Will they be apt to settle for less than they think they can get by continuing the insurgency?
Will the Shia be able to resist the temptation to take it all with Iran’s help?
Will the Kurds ever trust anyone again ever?
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this
Thomas,
I bet you think you get to pick what the “some” is too, don’t you?
By Midori
September 13, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this
Bush should do this for all of his speeches
By Cal
September 13, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this
The Kurds didn’t benefit much from trusting Saddam. They’ll sort it out themselves. Something the lunatics leftists have been screaming for, so quit pretending like you care simpleton.
You either want the U.S. to tell them how to set up their government or you don’t. You simpletons want it both ways when it suits your political agenda.
A bunch of freakin’ pantywaist liberals.
You can bet we’ll stay nearby so you can scream about that later.
A bunch of hysterical hippies.
By Midori
September 13, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this
Cal, er Andy:
Groovy man.
Just groovy.
By Thomas
September 13, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this
-=-
Wow RW —
If I was to know all - and knew what was the truth at all times I’d be a god — But since I’m not, then I speak my thoughts, and then I let people decide for themselves.
Now that doesn’t mean I won’t share my opinion - and perhaps influence people as to what I view as the truth (just as you do).
But I most certainly won’t stoop to the propaganda of “cut and paste” of massive amounts of partisan (narrow minded) drivel from biased sources like your buddys here do. This only has the purpose of media propaganda and bombardment, and muddying any true issue with an overdose of 1 viewpoint.
You and your Far right fanatics here are the ones that want to “Control” how people should think - not me! Otherwise you would have never made that last post now would you?
Me personally - I’m a moderate in politics and even been told by some that I think like a libetarian and in a few cases a republican on many issues. But even if I was right on the fence on the issues, the andy’s of the board would still call me a liberal because of their “if your not with us your against us” attitude.
You want to know who’s tearing this country apart in partisan rhetoric? Then look in the mirror bud!
Thomas
By Midori
September 13, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this
excellent post, Thomas.
now watch RW come back with something completely asinine, like attacking a mispelled word or subject/verb agreement in order to discredit your cogent and thoughtful post.
Again, good job!!!
By getalife
September 13, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this
Mr. Murtha speaks. Listen to him to find out the status of our military. It is not good.
Rumsfeld should resign and Mr. Murtha should replace him.
A great American demanding accountability.
I salute this great American Mr. Murtha.
By getalife
September 13, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this
Midori,
That youtube clip is a classic.
Thanks.
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this
Thomas,
I’m sure you’re just as moderate as the scribbler.
Why is it that everybody whines about Andy’s links being right wing propaganda, but they don’t take anything from them and debunk it? It seems to me if you were really right about something and could show that you are right, so as to influence others as you state, you would do more than whine.
Don’t you have a few make believe Hollywood companies to run or don’t you run them when it’s raining out?
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this
Two faced Midori parrot, er, getalife: Blow me.
When I post it ain’t gonna be under no Cal, although I totally agree with him.
Is everything a big freaking conspiracy to you moonbats?
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 01:13 PM | Link to this
Midori,
Squawwwkkkkk!!!!!!!
By Goldie
September 13, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this
Jpetz and Thomas— just as some of the neo-con trolls have posted here before, “love of party” always comes before love of America. It never matters what their guy Dubya does to harm America — they post here day after day, squealing like the pigs that they are.
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this
Midori,
The youtube is funny, thanks.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this
By Thomas September 13, 2006 12:50 PM Me personally - I’m a moderate in politics and even been told by some that I think like a libetarian and in a few cases a republican on many issues.
“I voted for Bush too, and I used to be for the Iraqi war but I’m not a backstabber, you are.”
See Midori, it wasn’t RW, it was me!
You’re wrong again.
By The Pirate
September 13, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this
Some SERIOUS Kool-Aid™ drinkers here, Gang, ain’t there? Visions of Jim Jones anyone?
The Blue Pill please?!?
RW, and all the other sychophants and toadies gathering here on this blog (please get yourselves a life) - I’ve posted it before, and I’ll post it again, just for reiteration. ANY similarities btw your own reality and the rest of the human races’ is PURELY coincidental, I assure you… Sheez… And no, I haven’t voted for a Democrud or Republicrat since the 70’s - get over it Andy - ermm - whomever you are…
Wake up - Kill your television!
By Goldie
September 13, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this
I wonder when that “compassionate conservative” stuff that Dubya promised America is gonna kick in… is it the TRILLION DOLLAR budget deficit he’s brought about during his term? Or is it only the 2,600 troops killed while “winning hearts and minds in Iraq”? Or is it the fact that ONLY 20,000+ Americans have been maimed and injured in the act of “spreading democracy throughout the Middle East”?
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this
Here’s a story that libs might even have the mental abilities to discuss
Should Penn be ticketed or not? What do you think of Canadian “freedom?” Do you think he reprised the Sharon Stone scene and asked if they were going to charge him with smoking?
By getalife
September 13, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this
Andy,
Listen, I am not Midori.
I know those voices in your head are screaming louder trying to delude the obvious failures of your heroes and blaming everything on the libs.
It has to suk to be you.
By Truthman
September 13, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this
Hey everybody!
Do you believe you are morally superior to the average, law-abiding Muslim living in the Middle East?
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this
They weren’t good enough, they weren’t smart enough, and gosh darn it, nobody liked them.
Well at least they can’t embezzle any more cash from the boys and girls club.
By Goldie
September 13, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this
Another example of the neo-cons’ suggestion that “Iraq is going swimmingly” these days
Next we’ll be reading here that the Christian Science Monitor is part of the “liberal media”… of course, we all know that reality does have a “liberal” bias” (thanks Stephen Colbert!).
By getalife
September 13, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this
Here Andy, this will cheer you up
Bwhahahahahahaha.
Pinko.
By Allaina
September 13, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this
A co-worker told me about your blog Mr. Luckovich so I wanted to share my thoughts.
I agree that President Bush’s speech can be repetitive but I support his efforts. There have been too many incidents that have proven that our country is in jeopardy. It’s not a new phenomenon just one that has been recognized now that President Bush is in office.
I appreciate everyday what he has done to keep this country safe. I hope that when he leaves office, the next president will carry on with his good work.
I actually do more than hope. I pray.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this
By LieGirl September 13, 2006 01:30 PM Hey everybody! Do you believe you are morally superior to the average, law-abiding Muslim living in the Middle East?
What ever, at least we don’t feel the need to set up concentration camps for them like your fellow pinko, bonnie ball chaser does:
By bon scott September 13, 2006 10:57 AM Why, let the best and the brightest from their state run madrasa hate teaching machines COME TO AMERICA!!
I’ll bet you see know problem with that either, you depraved little pervert.
By Thomas
September 13, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this
sigh —
RW - A cheap shot? I thought you were better than that, but I guess not.
Make believe Hollywood company? Puhleese! You have so taken what I do with Hollywood and the entertainment industry buisness out of context from one of my previous post.
Yes - you are becoming the intellegencia of Mike Blog aren’t you? If you can present a fact you will try and make one up!
You don’t know me, You don’t know my companies - and you most certainly don’t know jack about how I run my personal life and buisness. But you will certainly take a cheap shot at me in a childish fashion when your rhetoric won’t save you?
OK lets start with the Gun issue - I am against Gun Control. I refuse to allow the government to take away my right to bear arms. ( kinda’ a right wing issue isn’t it) -
Left wing time though — Then lets move to abortion - I am pro-Choice. The rights of a woman over her body should be her descision (right or wrong) and not dictated by Washington! Lets take the military. I am for a Strong military to defend this country and believe the military should get top notch gear to do their job. I am opposed to the war in Iraq, as it weakens our military strength and in the long run it bankrupts our country’s financial value wasting too much of our resources in this sand pit. I am Christian (Methodist) and believe that the seperation of church and state are imperative to the survival of the Constitution as well as the rights of the church.
But enough about me - how about you?
As to Andys daily spam propaganda. well lets compare todays post…
1 Washington Times article 2 American Spectator articles 2 Real Clear Politics articles 1 AJC editorial (slamming Clinton) 1 New York Sun article 1 (anti-clinton) cartoon
I would say this is totally un-biased and a very fair and balanced selection by our resident version of Karl Rove - right?
Cheers~!
By Huge
September 13, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this
I read with some interest the link to the American Spectator at 8:18. Unlike many here, I didn’t simply disregard it in spite of the very obvious one-way slant. It was my first visit to this publication’s site, and the home page is absolutely plastered with right wing ads, links, etc. Not surprising considering who provided this link.
The intentions of the article’s author are almost immediately suspect when he starts out by slamming California for being politically green. He then takes an uncalled for and unfounded slap at the Sierra Club and says that Greenpeace is another organization to be simply ignored. Hardly a centrist viewpoint, wouldn’t you agree?
He cites Al Gore’s movie as contributing to the “hysteria” (A clever but extremely poor choice of words, IMO), and then stupidly asserts that “scientists don’t see any incentive to quell it — after all, it’s quite a living.” I guess in his worldview scientists are all a bunch of self-serving, greedy liars. Too funny.
Eventually, he gets around to the topic of human generated CO2 and it’s effect on the climate. He cites one single solitary study from 1948 to make his case that everything else is “science fiction”.
He goes on to say that every recent climate model for the 21st century predicts that Antarctica will gain, not lose, ice. But guess what boys and girls? Not a single verifiable link or reference to support that astoundingly debateable claim!
In fairness, the article does give some specific estimates from sources and does a good job of discounting the talk of more and bigger hurricanes.
Seems to me that, overall, the entire article is your typical garden variety, conveneniently incomplete and biased “information” based on a pre-existing position and gop sound bites.
But read it and decide for yourselves, if you’d like. Then find some credible scientific, NOT jaundiced political sites for better information…
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
By The Pirate September 13, 2006 01:23 PM And no, I haven’t voted for a Democrud or Republicrat since the 70’s - get over it Andy - ermm - whomever you are…Wake up - Kill your television!
So what the hell are you doing in here now???
Temporarily confused?
By the way, I don’t do TV, I feel it is the whole reason that 48% of our population is ate up with ignorance, that Jon Stewart clip posted at 12:30 is the perfect example.
Just look at getalife and ask yourself if you want to turn out like that.
Horrific to even think about, isn’t it?
Having the freaking CNN logo burned into the center of your forehead, hahaha.
By getalife
September 13, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this
Way to go wingnut:
Michelle Malkin does the terrorists intelligence work for them -
Increased police activity. Specific activities undertaken by the police. And worst of all, confirmation from an insider that something may be up.Al Queda type appeaser! Traitor!
By Buy Danish
September 13, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this
Allaina,
AMEN. And welcome!
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this
By Thomas September 13, 2006 01:42 PM As to Andys daily spam propaganda. well lets compare todays post…1 Washington Times article 2 American Spectator articles 2 Real Clear Politics articles 1 AJC editorial (slamming Clinton) 1 New York Sun article 1 (anti-clinton) cartoon
How is this any worse than what the Atlanta Urinal does every single day, day in and day out, except that I’m not in denial like they are?
These perverts post fake photos advocating the positions of people who sole purpose in life is to kill Jews.
And they are supposedly a “professional” “news” organization.
See if you can find anything I’ve ever faked.
I hold the moral high ground over the AJC, isn’t that a bit-ch?
You just don’t like it because your a filthy little America hater same as they are.
By bon scott
September 13, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this
By RW-(the original) - September 13, 2006 11:07 AM - I thought our universities were supposed to be the great and wonderful diversity training grounds that meld people into a peace loving interactive society?
They sure are! So instead of welcoming 15,000 “students” from a country where they’ve been taught we’re the Devil, why don’t we let the Saudis fund US scholarships for 15,000 Iraqis? SURELY the Wahhabi parasites can spare a FEW petrodollars to help “meld these people into a peaceful, interactive society”. Remember, we’re fighting the war (against Shia Islam) in Iraq that they should be fighting.
Given the ratio of Saudi born to Iraqi born anti-US terrorists caught or killed (about 15 to 1) I’d feel much safer going with the Iraqis. And the money would be much better spent in enlightening people who (unlike the Saudis) are dealing with the US as an occupying force in their home country.
It truly is the incompetence. And the arrogance. And the stupidity.
By getalife
September 13, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this
“Just look at getalife and ask yourself if you want to turn out like that.”
Thanks Andy.
One day, when you grow up, you can be a great American patriot who wants what is best for our country, just like me.
By Thomas
September 13, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this
Funny how Andy hates the AJC, yet spends his life posting on their web-blogs isn’t it?
By bon scott
September 13, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this
By You’re Right, Where Is Osama? - September 13, 2006 01:41 PM - I’ll bet you see know problem with that either, you depraved little pervert.
It’s pushing 2pm and the resident RMD (Resident Moran Drunk) is predictably into his cups!
Illogical rant. Bad spelling. And a sexual slur.
Right on schedule, Andy. And I’m supposed to respect your opinions?
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this
By Huge September 13, 2006 01:44 PM He cites Al Gore’s movie as contributing to the “hysteria” (A clever but extremely poor choice of words, IMO), and then stupidly asserts that “scientists don’t see any incentive to quell it — after all, it’s quite a living.” I guess in his worldview scientists are all a bunch of self-serving, greedy liars. Too funny.
Let’s just see if Al Gore agrees with him or not:
So here’s what Al told Grist Magazine about global warming: “I believe it is appropriate to have an overrepresentation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience.”
Huh.
Sound’s like “hysteria.”
Look who’s right, again.
Me.
By w00t
September 13, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this
“Honestly, most of the leaders I spoke to felt the invasion of Iraq and its aftermath has been a real disaster for them,” Annan said. “They believe it has destabilized the region.”
“Annan went on to describe “two schools” of thought — those who believe the United States should stay, “having created the problem, they cannot walk away,” and those, “particularly in Iran,” who “believe the presence of the U.S.” is a problem.”
Maybe we can go to war with the UN next. You’re either with us, or against us right?
I mean, if the WHOLE WORLD thinks that what we’ve done is a big mess, then they must all be wrong.
The PM of Iraq is even becoming buddy buddy with Iran. What is the United States going to do when Iraq claims support of Iran’s nuclear program? Are we going to go back in there and throw Nuri al-Maliki out too? WE FREED THE PEOPLES!!!1
History.. rinse, lather, repeat… but people and politics never learn.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this
By Adolf bonnie Hitler September 13, 2006 01:57 PM Given the ratio of Saudi born to Iraqi born anti-US terrorists caught or killed (about 15 to 1.)
Gosh, we sure do jump out of our “civil war” clownsuit awful quick when we need to.
But staying on subject, what would you like us to do with this Saudi “trash,” these untermenschen? Would you like to put them in a nice work camp somewhere in Poland, perhaps in the countryside near Oswieciem?
You’re a real sicko, bonnie.
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this
Thomas,
We sort of agree on both your left and right issues. I against gun control and against the abortion issue being dictated by Washington like it is now.
Huge,
Oddly enough Al Gore calls scientists that disagree with him self-serving greedy liars.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this
By Thomas September 13, 2006 02:05 PM Funny how Andy hates the AJC, yet spends his life posting on their web-blogs isn’t it?
Well, aren’t you a real genius?
If I’m screwing this up for you, which can be shown by all of your wailing and moaning, what do you think I’m doing to them?
How would you like to have MoveOn.org calling everyday shreiking in your ear?
Hehehe.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this
By two faced Midori parrot September 13, 2006 01:04 PM excellent post, Thomas. now watch RW come back with something completely asinine, like attacking a mispelled {[misspelled](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=misspelled)} word or subject/verb agreement in order to discredit your cogent and thoughtful post.
Yep:
By Adolf bonnie Hitler September 13, 2006 02:06 PM It’s pushing 2pm and the resident RMD (Resident Moran Drunk) is predictably into his cups! Illogical rant. Bad spelling.
Frisk the liberal first, right?
By the way, SHOW me where I “misspelled” anything.
By Thomas
September 13, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this
Finally! —
The RW I once had some wonderful down to earth good debate with has come out! —-
Now that is what should really be happening on these blogs - some middle common grounds to discuss real world issues from both views! And then we could work from there to solve some of the actual problems that we disagree on.
That is the way to getting this country back on track.
Cheers RW and Thanks.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this
My goodness, I can’t believe one of these feminist metrosexual liberals said something intelligent:
By w00t September 13, 2006 02:16 PM Maybe we can go to war with the UN next.
Dam-n, this is one of the better ideas I’ve heard all year.
Think of all the evil and filth we would get rid of.
W00t, you the man.
By Huge
September 13, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this
From 2:06
“So here’s what Al told Grist Magazine about global warming: “I believe it is appropriate to have an overrepresentation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience.””
I thought I’d check out this quote used as a rebuttal, and as I suspected it is taken completely out of context and in fact makes the rebuttal look ridiculous. This is what happens when people don’t research thoroughly, much less read articles completely.
“In a recent interview about the movie, “An Inconvenient Truth,” Dave Roberts of Grist magazine, asked former Vice President Al Gore: “There’s a lot of debate right now over the best way to communicate about global warming and get people motivated. Do you scare people or give them hope? What’s the right mix?” Gore answered as follows:”
"I think the answer to that depends on where your audience's head is. In the United States of America, unfortunately we still live in a bubble of unreality. And the Category 5 denial is an enormous obstacle to any discussion of solutions. Nobody is interested in solutions if they don't think there's a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this crisis."“In fact, as the website News Hounds noted, Gore’s use of the term “over-representation” referred to the amount of time spent informing people about the dangers posed by global warming (at the expense of discussing possible solutions to the problem); it did not amount to an endorsement of exaggerating those dangers.”
Childish attempts to be “right” rather than seeking the truth and using Sean Hannity methods to misrepresent that truth can usually be easily exposed.
RW,
Do you have any evidence to support your claim that “Oddly enough Al Gore calls scientists that disagree with him self-serving greedy liars.”? Thanks.
By Midori
September 13, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this
poor Andy. You’re all over the board today, aren’t you?
I think the conventional wisdom is correct: you are half tanked, aren’t you?
Poor Andy, just full of vim, vinegar and cheap vodka.
Can you spell “loser” Andy?
By Midori
September 13, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this
anyone noticed how “loser” rhymes with “boozer”?
Andy, your slip is showing.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this
By Huge September 13, 2006 02:38 PM From 2:06 “So here’s what Al told Grist Magazine about global warming:
That’s exactly the point I was trying to get across, thanks Huge, Thomas is right, we can have civil discussion on this blog.
I’d like to thank you for also including the entire paragraph because it also shows how Al Gore thinks we are all too stupid to think for ourselves.
I’m guessing so do you.
You’re wrong again.
By Midori
September 13, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Andy promoting “civil discussion”???
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I was wrong; it’s not the vodka.
That guy is smoking major crack!!!
By bon scott
September 13, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this
By You’re Right, Where Is Osama? - September 13, 2006 02:29 PM - By the way, SHOW me where I “misspelled” anything.
Since you insist…
By You’re Right, Where Is Osama? - September 13, 2006 01:41 PM - I’ll bet you see know problem with that either, you depraved little pervert.
And you have know problem with your spelling? You just don’t no how dumb you are, do you?
Have another drink. And blow me.
By Thomas
September 13, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this
Sorry Andy —
This Blog isn’t my life — I just come here when I’m bored. Today just happens to be one of those slow days with not much for me to do.
I actually enjoy debate on issues here and the occasional laugh I get from your silly antics but other than that it’s just a time waster for me. Much like playing Tetris or Gemstones if you catch my drift. (oohh — does playing tetris make me a communist now since it’s russian? —- )
Andy — the world you envision in your attitude of “hate everything that is not of the Right Wing agenda” is a path to a world in flames and a world at war forever.
One day I hope you will think about why diplomacy matters and why debate and working together on issues is the key to keeping America a free country under our superbly written constitution and bill of rights. Your actions on this blog do nothing in providing answers to issues and to be honest will be totally irrelevent in the course of history and what will happen in this country. Your post (nor mine) just really don’t make any difference by being here (on Mike’s blog) in the big scheme of things. It is most entertaining though and can make you think once in a while but still is just not that important to the world at large.
It may surprise you that there are more Republicans in the company (that I recently founded) than Democrats, and I enjoy their company at dinners, and events on a regular basis. They are my friends and yes we have some knock down drag-out debates on world issues, but in the end we all know we are in the same big USA boat. When all is said and done we also know that if we wish to accomplish anything then we must work as a team.
Maybe you will learn to have some diplomacy and tact one day (and maybe a modicrum of respect) - or maybe you will just come to love the Bomb, but in either case - I wish you well in your future and hope that when the time comes you will choose to do what is right.
Cheers —-
Thomas
By Midori
September 13, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this
Andy, the problem is, you DON’T think for yourself.
You rely on the Washington Times, or Human Events, or what ever cat litter box lining you can dig up.
Oh yes.
And your amazing “cut and paste” skills.
Drunk.
Crackhead.
Loser.
By Midori
September 13, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this
Bon Scott,
I was going to bring that to Andy’s attention (your 2:29), but you beat me to it.
So little time; so many issues to slap Andy upside the head with.
Gotta give that guy credit: that guy is the energizer bunny of moronic outburts.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this
By Adolf “bonnie” Hitler September 13, 2006 02:53 PM By You’re Right, Where Is Osama? - September 13, 2006 02:29 PM - By the way, SHOW me where I “misspelled” anything. Since you insist… By You’re Right, Where Is Osama? - September 13, 2006 01:41 PM - I’ll bet you see know problem with that either, you depraved little pervert.
That’s not a misspelling you blooming idiot. It’s a misapplication of a word.
Wrong again, pervert.
Squawk, squawk, Midori, squawk.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this
By Thomas September 13, 2006 02:54 PM Sorry Andy — This Blog isn’t my life — I just come here when I’m bored.
It’s not every day that someone writes a ten paragraph manifesto to tell you that you mean nothing to them.
But, what ever, now I’m laughing my a-ss off, so it all worked out.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this
By Thomas September 13, 2006 02:54 PM Sorry Andy — This Blog isn’t my life — I just come here when I’m bored.
It’s not every day that someone writes a ten paragraph manifesto to tell you that you mean nothing to them.
But, what ever, now I’m laughing my a-ss off, so it all worked out.
By bon scott
September 13, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this
Andy is now repeating himself.
Anybody got some antabuse?
Drunk.
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this
Huge,
I’m sure there are other references to Al’s statement, but I heard it from him on his last Letterman appearance. I don’t know if they have transcripts and I’m sure the wording isn’t exactly what I used. The meaning is the same and I just used your words in my description.
By bon scott
September 13, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this
By You’re Right, Where Is Osama? - September 13, 2006 02:16 PM - what would you like us to do with this Saudi “trash,” these untermenschen? Would you like to put them in a nice work camp somewhere in Poland, perhaps in the countryside near Oswieciem?
We could just ask them to stay home, couldn’t we?
By the way, do you have these Nazi death camp fantasies often? Or just when you’re drunk?
By Huge
September 13, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this
“I’d like to thank you for also including the entire paragraph because it also shows how Al Gore thinks we are all too stupid to think for ourselves. I’m guessing so do you.”
No. Don’t include anybody else. Just you. And it’s really not a matter of being too stupid to think. Anybody with a pulse has thoughts. Just too lazy to read, and too bullheaded and p!ssed off at the world to learn anything new. Otherwise, you would recognize (and if a real man - admit) that your assertion is just quoting republican rubbish…
Midori,
Hey! Don’t sell the guy short. He was civil for one brief moment in time! (I threw that paraphrased title in because he probably detests Stephen Hawking!!)
But alas, our resident sociopath just can’t control himself and comes back minutes later with one of his oft used and more erudite commands - blow me!
Once a liar…
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this
Huge,
Unless he said it before this segment I must have heard it somewhere else. In this clip he just flat out lies and says there are no scientists opposed either to the idea of global warming OR whether it’s man made.
By Thomas
September 13, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this
Laters everyone -
Mike L’ - Your view of the world is “right on the money” as always, and I enjoy your daily cartoons and political satire. Thanks for your work and making this blog available.
Time to go play dodge cars’..
Thomas
(Uhh Andy?! Uhhm - Your not going to be driving anywhere anytime soon are you!?—)
By Blog Simple
September 13, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this
RW, your comments today are very moving, you’ve piled up quite a load. You must feel better now that you’ve wiped clean the blog and flushed the floor with the liberals. You mom must be steaming proud!
By @@
September 13, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this
Huge:
When I come into this site during a scientific discussion of global warming, I gotta tell you my head spins. You can research all the scientific findings, and it means little to most Americans. It’s the jargon. Most of us have to rely on what the media reports, and obviously they’re not too good at it.
Everybody on the left thinks Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are religious fanatics. Pretty much everybody on the right does too. But when it comes to Al Gorebrador’s environmental revolution, the left thinks he’s omnipotent. Really? The guy is a loser. Not figuratively speaking, but literally. I have to take that into account when considering his argument.
This seems to be an understanding among the science community:
“Many details about climate interactions are not well understood, and there are ample grounds for continued research to provide a better basis for understanding climate dynamics. The question of what to do about climate change is also still open.”
I say the scientists need to come to an overall consensus and present a more convincing argument; present it to the world and government leaders. And by all means, don’t apply some knee-jerk reaction that may benefit one economically sound country while placing another third world country at risk of annihilation.
It’s the precautionary principle. The left needs to acknowledge its’ value.
By Huge
September 13, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
RW,
I didn’t see Gore’s appearance on the Letterman show, so I can’t say. But I do get your intent. And, if true, it wouldn’t surprise me that much. Hey were talking about politicians here!
One thing I do want to mention, though, is that I’ve not seen his movie and am making no recommendations, opinions or endorsements until I do. Even then, I would be inclined to try and corroborate the info as best I could first.
But, lets face it, that doesn’t stop some here from doing that exact thing. And its been my experience that they are generally just intentionally misrepresenting and distorting what little info they have to make some partisan point.
I just pointed out someone doing this very thing with the Gore quote, but as you can well imagine, he won’t hear of it. His mind is already made up. Fortunately, most people are not so obstinate.
Thomas,
Good stuff in your 2:54.
By Buy Danish
September 13, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this
“In fact, as the website News Hounds noted, Gore’s use of the term “over-representation” referred to the amount of time spent informing people about the dangers posed by global warming (at the expense of discussing possible solutions to the problem); it did not amount to an endorsement of exaggerating those dangers.”
Huge,
Is this explanation^^ what Al Gore actually said, or what “News Hounds” infers that he meant?
In any case, you have to admit it was a poor choice of words, not unlike “no-controlling legal authority”.
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this
Huge,
Try this one.
Finally, Gore allows that some skeptics of global warming catastrophe may be sincere in their beliefs; however, he apparently assumes that most such global warming “deniers” are similar to “tobacco scientists” who were paid for “studies” that sowed doubt about whether or not cigarettes can cause lung cancer.
This sounds like he makes the allegation right in his movie.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this
By Adolf “bonnie” Hitler September 13, 2006 03:27 PM By the way, do you have these Nazi death camp fantasies often? Or just when you’re drunk?
You’re the freaking hater, ranting and raving about those trash foreigners, why are you asking me questions?
I’m not going to affirm your hatred, it’s your little mental issue, deal with it.
By Adolf “bonnie” Hitler September 13, 2006 03:21 PM Andy is now repeating himself. Anybody got some antabuse?
Yea, maybe if I left and MoveOn.org resumed their cash contributions to their pinko mouthpiece, then cartoon boy could afford to purchase a 2000 year model blog server.
Not gonna happen.
You know it figures that a lib calling another person a drunk would so readily know what “antabuse” is, I’m guessing it’s an anti alcoholic medication, I have know idea, I’m not a pinko, I use self respect to solve these problems.
But bonnie, she knows the treatment regimes by name.
Pot to Kettle?
Frisk the liberal first?
By Huge September 13, 2006 03:29 PM And it’s really not a matter of being too stupid to think. Anybody with a pulse has thoughts. Just too lazy to read, and too bullheaded and p!ssed off at the world to learn anything new.
Look, blowhard, throwing thousands of meaningless words at it and insulting me doesn’t change what Al Gore said.
This ain’t ABC, loser.
By Buy Danish
September 13, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
Huge,
Here’s what our friends up North have to say about Al Gore’s views
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this
Huge,
Even with you providing the full quote, I still get the same thing out of it that Andy did. It didn’t seem taken out of context at all and the full quote DOES make it sound like the typical condescension we always get from Gore.
He does think everyone is stupid and he likely does think you have to exaggerate to get people to pay attention. Watch the video clip I posted at 3:30 and it sounds more like Al agrees with Andy’s interpretation of his comments than with Newshounds spin.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this
I’ll even give up on the Al Gore exaggeration angle, let’s give the libs an out and say that he used one of John Kerry’s speechwriters and didn’t really mean what he said.
Look at the advertisement for the movie, is it not a smokestack belching out a hurricane? Does this not hysteric, er, imply that global warming, which you have to accept as a foregone conclusion mind you, causes hurricanes to be more intense?
And if you project this theme onto the year 2006, doesn’t it mean, due to the lack of any “monster” hurricanes this year, that there is no global warming?
Bwahahaha.
I’m not going to dance on any graves here but we are talking about simple logic.
You libs are “hysterically” lost in your emotions.
By Huge
September 13, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this
@@,
I absolutely agree! This topic, like many we discuss here, is very complicated! And simple sloaganeering and sound bites won’t provide any illumination.
“Everybody on the left thinks Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are religious fanatics. Pretty much everybody on the right does too.”
I definitely disagree that “everybody” and “pretty much everybody” are accurate, but I get your point. Even so, there are very devout fundamental christians at both extremes of the political spectrum. But doesn’t that bring up another strange proposition? If you’re essentially correct only people in the center are the ones not on to these guys?!
“But when it comes to Al Gorebrador’s environmental revolution, the left thinks he’s omnipotent.”
Again, I think you overstated your position. Yes, he is well respected by many non-republicans, and clearly is an extremely intelligent man. But omnipotent? I think your over-riding belief that ALL liberals/leftists/democrats/whatever think alike, agree on everything and everyone and march together is just fantasy. And your close-mindedness to anything he says is obvious as evidenced by your comment “The guy is a loser.”
And overall I agree with the rest of your comments. So the question is, is he a forward thinking visionary or an ill informed alarmist? Time will tell, but there is no doubt, IMO, that the question of climate change, like pollution, like habitat destruction and like human sustainability deserves serious attention and some sense of urgency.
BD, Agreed on the poor choice of words. In fact I had to read it several times and like I mentioned earlier; hey, he’s a politician!
RW, I watched the clip and agree that he overstated his position with the comments that “the scientific debate is over” and “there is a complete consensus”. I don’t agree. But overall, I think he’s on the right track.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this
Why do I get the feeling Nancy Grace could care less?
Filthy liberal.
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this
{{{{{….and clearly is an extremely intelligent man.}}}}}}
This Al Gore?
By Buy Danish
September 13, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this
@@,
I don’t put any credence in the global warming alarms - unless someone wants to show me how the sun is getting hotter - in which case there’s not much we can do about that, is there? Here’s one of my favorite debunk the junk websites
As for his poor choice of words, I think RW is right and it is just spin on News Hounds part and he just thinks we’re stupid.
RW,
It is obvious to me that Gore is lying when he tells Letterman that the debate is over. It’s that little “heh heh” laugh that nails it as well as any lie detector.
By Buy Danish
September 13, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this
@@/Huge,
That last post should have gone to Huge.
By Huge
September 13, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this
BD,
“I don’t put any credence in the global warming alarms…”
That’s cool! (get it?!)
“… - unless someone wants to show me how the sun is getting hotter - in which case there’s not much we can do about that, is there?”
That’s the only criteria that will satisfy you?!! Sounds like you will never open your mind, no matter what evidence is found. I’m not sure that is a very good thing.
As for yours and RW’s beliefs that Gore thinks you are stupid, I’m not sure what to say. Paranoia? It seems that you just detest him and will oppose anything and everything he says, regardless of the validity or not. So you’ll create “reasons” that I’m not sure anyone else can see.
I’ve actually already been to the website that you linked. I’ve only spent a little time there in the past, and as there is a ton of info, it deserves more time. I’ve bookmarked it. Thanks.
I’m off to din-din. So I bid adieu to all.
By @@
September 13, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this
Huge:
Look. My “everybody” & “pretty much everybody” reference applies to this site. The conservatives, no matter how often we express our dislike for Falwell & Robertson, we get “lumped.” I may be mistaken, but I think you have been among the lumpers. And whether you realize it or not, you just put all of the conservatives here within the moderate (centrist) range.
Gore was a career politician. That’s enough to make me suspicious of his motives. Loser? He began the great divide within this country with his childish antics after the 2000 election. I don’t know about his IQ, but I certainly can’t support that less than intelligence decision. It was very destructive.
I have no problem with Gore provoking thought, but I don’t support provoking hysteria. I’d rather hear from scientists, and in layman’s terms.
I’m going to load up my recyclables now so I can deposit them early in the morning. Thanks for reminding me.
By Huge
September 13, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this
@@,
I’ve been called many things, but never a lumper! Harrrummmph…
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this
Huge,
I’m afraid it’s you followers of Gore that he thinks are stupid. Sorry to have to break that to you.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 06:29 PM | Link to this
I couldn’t decide which paragraph was more suitable to post so here’s both of them:
Islamic jihadists attacked America year after year throughout the Clinton administration. They did everything but blow up his proverbial “bridge to the 21st century.” Every year but one, Clinton found an excuse not to fight back.
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright “was concerned about the reaction of world opinion to a retaliation against Muslims and the impact it would have in the final days of the Clinton Middle East peace process.” (How did that turn out, by the way? Big success, I take it? Everybody over there all friendly with one another?)-AnnCoulter
By Blog Dawg
September 13, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this
@@, I’ve been noticing your blogs today. They form quite a log! Your mother must be steaming proud.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 06:32 PM | Link to this
Three weeks after I guest-host for Rush, Air America files for bankruptcy. Coincidence? I think not - thought the alternative scenarios and rationales posted by its friends at Think Progress are truly a wonder to behold. Here’s what I had to say about l’Air Amerique two years ago in this column for National Review:-SteynOnLine
By Buy Danish
September 13, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this
Huge,
IF I hadn’t come of age during the “Next ice age!” alarms, and IF the global warming alarmists weren’t mostly a bunch of Marxists, and IF anything the “experts” warned us about during the past decades actually turned out to be true, I might not look upon them with such a gimlet eye.
After having been told that coffee, wine, eggs, water, salt, and olive oil (just to name a few) are bad for us, I lost faith in their constantly fluctuating proclamations.
Hope you enjoyed your dinner. Did you have any of the above^^?
By @@
September 13, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this
A little fun, just because I can.
Lumper(n): A laborer who loads & unloads.
Enjoy your dinner Huge.
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
The New York Times is hysterically going after salt again today. I’ll spare you by not linking to it.
By Buy Danish
September 13, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this
Andy,
Thanks for Steyn&Couter posts. This was a notable paragraph too - from Coulter:
“The day of Clinton’s scheduled impeachment, Dec. 18, 1998, he bombed Iraq. This accomplished two things: (1) It delayed his impeachment for one day, and (2) it got a lot of Democrats on record about the monumental danger of Saddam Hussein and his weapons of mass destruction.”
Steyn’s entire piece is like a brilliant comedy routine and must be savored in full. Randi Rhodes is one of Midori’s favorites, isn’t she. Ha Ha.
Thanks!
By getalife
September 13, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this
Uh, oh Sonny opens the door
By getalife
September 13, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this
oops, wrong link
By Buy Danish
September 13, 2006 06:54 PM | Link to this
RW,
Thanks for sparing me! If the nanny state dieticians could just say things like “A little salt is actually healthy, just don’t dump the entire shaker’s worth on your meal” AND if they didn’t always seem to have a trial lawyer or fundraiser for some left wing outfit in tow they might be a tad more convincing.
I noticed at a very young age that most the “nutritionists” at my schools were coincidentally obese. They still look the same at my son’s school. I much prefer my own anecdotal evidence to “experts” any day.
By getalife
September 13, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this
Steyn and Rush are funny from what I have read.
The sad part is people take them seriously and listen to the wingnut propaganda as reality.
By @@
September 13, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this
Blog Dawg:
Get off the grass. I don’t clean up after mongrels.
By Blog Dawg
September 13, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this
You know, the way @@ kisses RW’s a*ss, she must have a real lump in her throat……ew.
By bon scott
September 13, 2006 07:21 PM | Link to this
I guess the neocons like Coulter will never stop saying that Clinton staged attacks on “terrorists” to divert attention from Monicagate. He’s smeared if he does, smeared if he doesn’t.
The truth is, the GOP obstructionists and Clinton-haters were fighting against Clinton’s anti-terror policy long before Monica came on the scene.
WASHINGTON (CNN) July 30, 1996 — President Clinton urged Congress Tuesday to act swiftly in developing anti-terrorism legislation before its August recess.
“We need to keep this country together right now. We need to focus on this terrorism issue,” Clinton said during a White House news conference.
But while the president pushed for quick legislation, Republican lawmakers hardened their stance against some of the proposed anti-terrorism measures.
This blind eye to terror and obsession with “getting” Clinton and the Democrats lasted through the end of Clinton’s term, into Bush’s term, and right up to 9/11, which might have been thwarted if BushCo had been paying attention.
It truly is the incompetence, stupids…
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 07:45 PM | Link to this
The way the moonbats link that CNN article hour after hour day after day, you would think it actually said something. But since they are libs they will fall for any phony line Clinton feeds them.
Gullible fools these moonbats.
By You're Right, Where Is Osama?
September 13, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this
By Adolf “bonnie” Hitler September 13, 2006 07:21 PM I guess the neocons like Coulter will never stop saying that Clinton staged attacks on “terrorists” to divert attention from Monicagate. He’s smeared if he does, smeared if he doesn’t. The truth is, the GOP obstructionists and Clinton-haters were fighting against Clinton’s anti-terror policy long before Monica came on the scene. WASHINGTON (CNN) July 30, 1996 — President Clinton urged Congress Tuesday to act swiftly in developing anti-terrorism legislation before its August recess.
The article you linked to is about domestic terrorism, you dumna-ss.
One key GOP senator was more critical, calling a proposed study of chemical markers in explosives “a phony issue.”
In response to Oklahoma City, no less. After a big pile of American corpses form, then the liberals make some stupid law.
Little pointy hat wearing loser.
By RW-(the original)
September 13, 2006 08:21 PM | Link to this
Andy,
Not only is finch, aka bonnie bigot, talking about domestic terrorism, the only thing Bubba was doing was pushing for taggants.
Here’s a good read on the value of that little stunt piece of typical feel-good lib legislation. It’s just gun control in a phony package.
By Alex
September 15, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this
So this is where right-wingers post when they want to do some pathetic whining and blame Clinton for their leader’s latest failures?
I sincerely hope such Coulterian idiocy will be discarded in the dustbins of history and we can again get on with being Americans.