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Partisan combat

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By George

September 10, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

But Andy things Rummy is doing a wonderful job!

He will be here soon with his daily drivel which will of course have nothing to do with today’s toon.

By RW-(the original)

September 10, 2006 11:18 PM | Link to this

Please ignore the hysterical ranting of Georgie girl and read the stories Andy links in the morning. They may well not have anything to do with the cartoon because the guy that scribbles the cartoons is a loony leftist that is as out of touch as Georgie girl. Andy’s links will be the antithesis of out of touch hysteria.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

The Marine was a reminder that the country is in a war being fought thousands of miles away at Iraq, Afghanistan, and secret locations by Marines and GIs in dirtier uniforms than the one on display yesterday, but a war that nonetheless entered a new phase with the attack here in New York City five years ago this morning on buildings that held thousands of civilians who weren’t wearing any uniforms at all other than the ones of office workers or restaurant waiters or bond traders.-NewYorkSun

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The time for commemoration lies very far in the future. War memorials are erected when the war is won. At the moment, anyone who insists on the primacy of September 11, 2001, is very likely to be accused—not just overseas but in this country also—of making or at least of implying a “partisan” point. I debate with the “antiwar” types almost every day, either in print or on the air or on the podium, and I can tell you that they have been “war-weary” ever since the sun first set on the wreckage of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and on the noble debris of United Airlines 93. These clever critics are waiting, some of them gleefully, for the moment that is not far off: the moment when the number of American casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq will match or exceed the number of civilians of all nationalities who were slaughtered five years ago today.-OpinionJournal

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Since 9/11, the United States and its allies have destroyed more than 75 percent of al-Qaeda. That statistic does not come from the White House press office. Washington Post reporter Dana Priest noted it in a talk at the Cato Institute last week. Priest, whom no one would call an apologist for or ally of the administration, also noted how the Bush administration skillfully used diplomatic relationships — particularly with France — to pursue, capture, detain and interrogate al Qaeda terrorists. Through a combination of military force and diplomacy, the United States has crippled al Qaeda.-AmericanSpectator

Yes, where is Caveboy?

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

The jihadists, brainwashed from an early age to sacrifice their lives for an evil utopia to rise from the ashes of civilization, represent neither state nor homeland. We debate whether appeasement can win time against the terrorism, but Shelby Steele points out that from the modern Muslim world “comes an unappeasable hatred that seems to exist for its own sake.” America and Israel remain the focus of jihadist rhetoric, but few reckon that the eradication of America and Israel would diminish the hatred that galvanizes the aspiring killers who sit at the feet of Osama bin Laden. “Even the fight of Islamic terrorist groups is oddly self-referential,” Mr. Steele writes in the Wall Street Journal, “fighting not for territory or treasure but for the fighting itself.”-WashingtonTimes

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Cheney reasserts Iraq/al-Qaeda links- Mr Cheney said the fact that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the former head of al-Qaeda in Iraq who was killed in a US air strike this year, was in Baghdad before the war was evidence that Iraq had links to al-Qaeda.-FT.Com

Seems like a foregone, rock solid conclusion, don’t it?

Hey, maybe he thought he was in Amman?

Or he could have been there just to hit that world famous Baghdad nightlife, no?

It figures that the Senate would blow something so simple.

It’s almost like they wanted to find against the president or something….

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If anything, Capitol Democrats seem committed only to rooting for the Bush administration to fail in every arena. Voters have to see it, that the Democrats have this way of always hitting Bush for not doing enough while doing too much. Consider Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., who appeared on CNN Thursday, hitting the Bush administration for both under-doing airline security — not checking passenger plane cargo sufficiently — and overdoing it — by banning lip gel. As if it is wrong to ban liquids after a real and specific threat.-TownHall

By Green Thumb

September 11, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

Thanks fella, once again you have provided my tomatoes with great fertilizer.

Just shovel it right on…..

By Green Thumb

September 11, 2006 08:11 AM | Link to this

Thanks fella, once again you have provided my tomatoes with great fertilizer.

Just shovel it right on…..

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

As we know, There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know There are known unknowns. That is to say We know there are some things We do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, The ones we don’t know We don’t know.

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:21 AM | Link to this

Don’t automatically obey Presidential directives if you disagree or if you suspect he hasn’t considered key aspects of the issue.

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

“We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.” –on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

Yup, Bush has whupped them Al Qaeder leaders good…

“You gave us every legitimacy and every opportunity to continue fighting you,” al-Zawahri said, addressing the U.S. in the video aired by CNN, which appeared to be new. “You should worry about your presence in the (Persian) Gulf and the second place you should worry about is Israel.”

You mean Bin Laden, Zawahiri AND Mullah Omar are ALL possibly in their new sanctuary in Pakistan????

It’s The Competence, STUPID!!

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war.”

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this

“I am not going to give you a number for it because it’s not my business to do intelligent work.”

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this

Finally, the insurgency is in its last throes…Oops…

This from the chief of intelligence for the Marine Corps in Iraq - Col Pete Devlin:

Devlin reports that there are no functioning Iraqi government institutions in Anbar, leaving a vacuum that has been filled by the insurgent group al-Qaeda in Iraq, which has become the province’s most significant political force, said the Army officer, who has read the report. Another person familiar with the report said it describes Anbar as beyond repair; a third said it concludes that the United States has lost in Anbar.

Please, we need one of the koolaid drinking wingnuts to tell us how successful our misadventure in Iraq has been…HURRY!!!

It’s The Competence, Stupid!!

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

“It is unknowable how long that conflict [the war in Iraq] will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months.” -

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

As you know, you go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.”

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this

By Don Rumsfeld September 11, 2006 08:28 AM “It is unknowable how long that conflict [the war in Iraq] will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months.” -

Taken out of context and used to smear the Republicans, this quote was for the removal of Saddam’s government, it took six weeks like he said.

So this must mean Rumsfeld is a liberal hero, no?

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this

Stuff happens

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

Somebody, remind me again, how many US soldiers were killed by Moqtada al Sadr’s militia?

Today, Sadr controls 30 seats in the Iraqi parliament and four ministries. All of Sadr’s portfolios revolve around providing key services, such as health and transportation. They give him the ability to funnel resources to supportive constituents and boost his popular base. During the protracted negotiations over who would become prime minister after elections in January, Sadr reluctantly supported Nouri al-Maliki, also a Shiite, to head the government.

Yup, this terrorist (dare I say) is now our ally in Iraq (which according to the Bush Administration is the central front in the War on Terror).

The irony is frighteningly ironic…

It’s The Competence, STUPID!!

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

“I’m not a lawyer. My impression is that what has been charged thus far is abuse, which I believe technically is different from torture … I don’t know if it is correct to say what you just said, that torture has taken place, or that there’s been a conviction for torture. And therefore I’m not going to address the torture word.”

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this

“I can’t conceive of anyone looking at the pictures and suggesting that anyone could have recommended, condoned, permitted, encouraged, subtly, directly, in any way, that those things take place.”

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this

We do not want America — they do not want Americans or coalition forces in their country over a prolonged period, and goodness knows we don’t want to be there.”

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

“The administration should clarify its intent in Viet Nam,’ he said. ‘People lack confidence in the credibility of our government.’ Even our allies are beginning to suspect what we say, he charged. ‘It’s a difficult thing today to be informed about our government even without all the secrecy,’ he said. ‘With the secrecy, it’s impossible. The American people will do what’s right when they have the information they need.” [Chicago Tribune, 4/13/66]

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

I concur in the conclusion expressed therein that the people of the United States must know not only how their country became involved but where we are heading.”

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

There is no question but that they would be welcomed

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this

Senator, I don’t think that’s true. I have never painted a rosy picture. I have been very measured in my words, and you’d have a dickens of a time trying to find instances where I have been excessively optimistic. I understand this is tough stuff.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this

Let’s see, one of the terrorist organizations in Iraq (Moqtada al Sadr’s Militia) openly aims to become a force in the new Iraq Gov’t we brag about helping to create:

“We have entered a political game,” said Yaqoubi, who wore a black turban signifying his descent from the prophet Muhammad. “We entered this government to use it as a weapon to make pressure on the occupiers.”

So, if we are successful, we will leave behind a terrorist organization with extraordinary influence on the Iraqi gov’t that is openly hostile to the US…ANY QUESTIONS???

It’s The Competence, STUPID!!!

By Yahoo News ! ! !

September 11, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Out of respect for the victims of 9/11 and this national day of mourning, there will be no incendiary and derisive links to counter the NON-con Republican drivel today. Have a ball Bushbots, you get another free pass to use the 9/11 victims to feather your political nest. Tommorow is another day ! ! !

By Gin Rummy

September 11, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this

“I don’t know what I said, but I know what I think, and well, I assume it is what I said.”

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this

Meanwhile in Afghanistan, we continue to suffer from our misadventure in Iraq:

A suicide bomber with explosives strapped to his body assassinated a popular governor in eastern Afghanistan on Sunday, two days after a powerful car bombing killed 16 people, including two U.S. soldiers, in downtown Kabul, the capital.

You’re doing a heckuva job, Bushie…

It’s The Competence, Stupid!!

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this

Here we are on September 11 and if it were not for Andy, we would have all anti-American propaganda this morning. Where are the patriots? Does this liberal crowd want to turn the country over to the terrorists so they can say “Bush did it”?

Our country has had no more attacks on our soil since 9/11. That is because we have had strong leadership in this country. We have had a leader who didn’t wait for a second attack before he went to work protecting us.

I watched the twin towers come down again last night on television. Liberals need to see that every day until they remember they are supposed to support this country, not destroy it. They seem to have forgotten.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

The one good thing about the debacle in Iraq is that it has helped the wingnuts divert attention from other Bush failures:

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.75 billion per day since September 30, 2005!

You’re doing a heckuva job, Bushie…

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

Anybody want to guess at who some of the recipients of $352 BILLION in US taxpayers hard earned dollars LAST YEAR ALONE for interest payments on the US debt are? Anybody…

In Fiscal Year 2005, the U. S. Government spent $352 Billion of your money on interest payments* to the holders of the National Debt.

Try Communist China, Saudi Arabia (proud home to most of the 9/11 terrorists), and, yes, Venezuela…

Now, aren’t you proud?

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

“It’s an enormous country - you know, it’s bigger than Texas! Or as big, I guess - I haven’t looked lately.”

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

“We do have a saying in America: if you’re in a hole, stop digging ….. erm, I’m not sure I should have said that.”

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this

“The construct I would suggest would be, um, what are the benefits - what are the advantages and disadvantages of not acting? And of course, the advantage of not acting - against the moon - would be that no-one could say that you acted. They would say, ‘Isn’t that good - you didn’t do anything against the moon’. The other side of the coin of not acting against the moon, in the event that the moon posed a serious threat, would be that you then suffered a serious loss, and you’re sorry after that’s over. And in weighing the things, you would have to make a judgement … or net … do you think you are acting most responsibly by avoiding the threat that could be characterised - X numbers of people dying, innocent people, and it’s that kind of a evaluation one would have to make.”

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

“This is fantastic - I’ve got a laser pointer! … Holy mackerel … ah man, that’s terrific!”

By getalife

September 11, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

W did do it crusty.

He decide to invade Iraq, divide us and the world and let OBL off the hook.

Why do you keep cheering on this failure of not getting Osama?

Once again, real Americans want to get the people responsible for 9/11 and you don’t.

Pitiful.

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

“We do know of certain knowledge that he [Osama Bin Laden] is either in Afghanistan, or in some other country, or dead.”

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

“I believe what I said yesterday … I don’t know what I said, er, but I know what I think, and … well, I assume it’s what I said.”

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

Dusty: We’ve had no more attacks on the soil of the country we all call home, we’ve freed two countries from tyranny, we’ve all but destroyed Al Qaeda and all we get from the filthy pinko liberals is partisan political attacks on the man most responsible for protecting us.

It’s stupid, sickening partisan bullcrap and it’s one party that’s tearing this country apart for the sake of political power.

These liberals could hogtied and with their heads being cut off before they will “get it.”

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Nobody has ‘forgotten.’ Speaking for myself, I am absolutely PO’d that the honor of those who died has been sullied by an incompetent misadventure in Iraq and that dimwits like you just don’t get it.

We can honor these fallen Americans better by holding this Administration accountable for its past and current failings…especially as its enablers, like Cheney, continue to try to maintain justifications that have been thoroughly discredited.

It is you and your ilk who have forgotten that we were attacked by Bin Laden and Al Qaeda - NOT BY IRAQ!!!!

Wake up and smack some sense into your thick skull.

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

“Well, the Office of Management and Budget, has come up come up with a number that’s something under $50 billion for the cost. How much of that would be the U.S. burden, and how much would be other countries, is an open question.

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

“If you [Source: worry about just] the cost, the money, Iraq is a very different situation from Afghanistan…Iraq has oil. They have financial resources.”

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

“I don’t believe that the United States has the responsibility for reconstruction, in a sense…[Reconstruction] funds can come from those various sources I mentioned: frozen assets, oil revenues and a variety of other things, including the Oil for Food, which has a very substantial number of billions of dollars in it.

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

: Prepared? I mean, we were prepared for lots of things. We were prepared for humanitarian crisis that didn’t happen. We were prepared for lighting off all the oil wells and only a couple of handfuls were actually burning that we were able to stop. You expect resistance, particularly when the Baathists collapsed north of Baghdad and did not go into the fight really.

And they bled into the countryside and so they’re still there. So while the major combat operations ended May 1, what you’ve got now is a low-intensity conflict that is going to continue until more of those people are rooted out. And that’s going on every day. There’s probably twelve,fifteen incidents a day where our forces are engaged.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

For once, yes once, the Deranged Moron is correct:

It’s stupid, sickening partisan bullcrap and it’s one party that’s tearing this country apart for the sake of political power.

Just not in the moronic way IT thinks…

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

If the commander said, look, the situation militarily is such that we need more forces and they recommended that, and we believed that that’s a good thing to do, the president would put them in in a minute. But that is not the case.

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

Where are the patriots?

You can post every excuse in the world for not supporting this country. But none of them work. You don’t want to see America win the war on terror because you too busy complaining and pointing fingers.

Have there ever been great projects that didn’t have problems to be resolved? What kind of children are you to think that we could protect our country and promote freedom without problems? We are not fighting in fairyland as you liberals seem to think. We are overcoming great troubles and working them out for freedom. Freedom, you imbeciles. To keep ours and establish some in the Middle East.

Try reading Andy without calling him names. He comes every morning to promote this country. And you liberals do nothing but complain and call him names. Is it not possible for you to overcome your political prejudice and see what you are doing to our country?

Once again. Remember the twin towers falling in New York City. Remember the helpless who died and the firemen who lost their lives trying to save them.

The least you could do is forget your prejudice. Maybe then we can call you patriotic. Right now, I cannot.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

Dusty - you are hopelessly ignorant.

First of all The Deranged Moron (Andy) does not promote this country, he promotes Bush. Furthermore, it is not hard for me to imagine that IT’s rantings during the Clinton Administration were not all that supportive…if you know what I mean. C’mon give me a break with that crap.

Second, look at our actions in the name of what you describe as ‘freedom.’ Think about it real hard in terms of our support for Musharref (the military dictator that overthrew a democratically elected gov’t), our support of autocratic gov’ts throughout the world and paticularly in the Middle East, look at how we react to Democratically elected gov’ts like Lebanon, Venezuela and the Palestinian.

We support Demoracy (except when we don’t want to) and decry Autocratic rule (except when we consider them our ‘allies.’

If these are the principles of ‘Freedom’ you promote and support, then YOU are the problem…

By @@

September 11, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Well ml, I have to say I actually like this cartoon. It definitely depicts pandering politicians. Something that I’ve never had an appreciation for. I voted for George Bush because I knew he wouldn’t pander to his party or the polls and he hasn’t.

I’ve always hoped that the Democrats could look back and see their errors from the past when it comes to running campaigns. The status quo continues. Attack the opposition without setting out clear and comprehensive objectives. The radical leftists on this site are an example of that continuing inadequacy.

Anyway, on a lighter note…

The next time a storm blows out my power, I’m taking action.

By early August, residents of the town were demonstrating out of frustration over the situation. {{Increasing hostility culminated in reports of threats to the life of the Dhi Qar province director general for electricity.}}

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

Where are the patriots?

I see. Tear the country apart if possible and point out every problem and claim nobody in our government has done anything. Oh, yes. That’s patriotism???

NOT IN MY BOOK.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

Exactly Dusty…

This is where the wingnuts lose all credibility.

You see, the reason this country is strong and has endured as it has is EXACTLY because we have the FREEDOM (also the right and, dare I say, the obligation) to hold our leaders accountable.

I realize this Administration is weak and cannot sustain criticism without questioning patriotism, BUT, this country is still strong.

We will recover, but it will take time, along with true principled, moral and competent leadership.

By rushncap

September 11, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

Dusty — we are here. Now run along, us patriots don’t have much to say to you.

By Don Rumsfeld

September 11, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

“I’m not into this detail stuff. I’m more concepty.”

“I don’t do quagmires.”

“I don’t do diplomacy.”

“I don’t do foreign policy.”

“I don’t do predictions.”

“I don’t do numbers.”

“I don’t do book reviews.”

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

rushncap,

Where are the patriots?

And you said “We are here”. You sure had me fooled. Best undercover job I’ve ever seen.

By rushncap

September 11, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

@@, it’s nice to have a politician who does not pander, who sticks to his guns. But I personally feel that it’s better to have a politician who is right once in a while. Bush has not pandered, sure, but his ratio of right decisions to wrong decisions is overwhelmingly skewed in the wrong direction. The downside of a “non-pandering” politician is that he does not get bothered by things like “facts” or “differing opinions”. You seem to prefer to follow someone off the cliff as long as he marches steadily and confidently. I’d prefer to follow someone who waffles, thinks, weighs, and then makes the choice not to lead me off of a cliff, even if he looks less “leader-like” doing it. Being right is the most important quality, not being self-confident.

By Jay Leno

September 11, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

The big story continues to be that seven retired generals have come forward and called for Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to step down. In response to that, President Bush said he fully supports Rumsfeld. You know what that means? Sounds like somebody’s going on a hunting trip with Dick Cheney.”

By Jay Leno

September 11, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

But not all the generals are against him. He still has the support of a lot of generals: General Electric, General Dynamics, General Motors.”

By Jay Leno

September 11, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

Donald Rumsfeld held a question and answer session with soldiers on their way to Iraq and one soldier asked why a lot of their vehicles still don’t have the proper armor and Rumsfeld said, ‘You go to war with the army you have. Not the armor your wish for.’ And then he got into his armored car and drove away.”

By Jay Leno

September 11, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

Donald Rumsfeld made a surprise visit to Baghdad. The bad news for President Bush, he came back … He told the troops, ‘I’m a survivor.’ Yeah — a survivor about to be voted off the island.”

By Jay Leno

September 11, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said today that those pictures of Iraqi POW’s being humiliated are deeply disturbing. Well dude what else is he going to say, ‘Well you know, I found them to be kind of a turn on.’”

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

Lord Help Us,

In your litany of strong leadership, you forgot to mention Democratic, didn’t you?

But then again, I don’t tie strong leadership with Democrats either. Can’t think of one right now.

By rushncap

September 11, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

Patriots are people who love their country, Dusty, sometimes even despite its leadership. And that’s us.

By getalife

September 11, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

“Q: But don’t you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won’t truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

Bush: I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.”

There is your patriot crusty.

We want justice for OBL not a pardon like you want.

Pathetic.

By Thomas

September 11, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

Dusty?

Seriously?

Win the war on terror? — Is that actually a legitimate (and winable) goal to stop an idealism? I’m sorry — but that’s just a political catchphrase that has no resolution ever possible in reality.

You have no specific target. You have no specific country to attack and defeat. You don’t even have a specific (single) person to target in such a war. You might as well say “We will win the War on the common flu”.

Yes - I watched the towers fall, the people jump, the heroic people struggle to rescue whoever they could at the cost of their own lives. I felt personal remorse at the loss of an aquaintance that died on one of the airplanes, and the knowledge that a whole office of people in the towers were close friends of a buisness associate of mine that owned that office - All dead!.

But the worst insult was when Bush and Rummy used this as propoganda to go after his former buddy Saddam by using the deaths of those killed by the Cultist in Afghanistan. I watch as our troops go after oiul resources to line their pockets instead of hunting down the man who did this horrible dead that still roams free today and may yet again kill americans. All the while Bush stands atop the rubble with the flag waving in the background making speeches while others suffer.

By the debt we owe now, and the slow decay of our military might and forces wasted in a sandpit, I say the following - either this president is incompetent, or he is competent and is destroying this country deliberatly.

Patriotism is alive and well in both parties and that patriotism is well spoken in our ability to protest the actions of our government - Thank you very much!

And I choose to speak out against this injustice directly controlled by this administration.

Thomas

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Strong, principled, moral, competent leadership is not necessarily Democratic or Republican. You just don’t get it, do you?

I know, on this board, if you criticize Bush you are an America hating, commie, pinko, etc. (I’m sure I left out some of your favorite poster’s insults).

Yes, you and the Deranged Moron are the real ‘patriots’ here. Hating most Americans while claiming to ‘Love America’ is real ‘patriotism.’

Keep telling yourself that and don’t forget, Rush starts in 45 minutes so you can get your talking points polished up…

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

rushncap,

Unfortunately, the way you love this country is to tear it apart. That is not my way of showing love or patriotism.

By John deLaubenfels

September 11, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

Saddam Hussein is an evil man. The list of his crimes is posted everywhere, and needs no review.

Donald Rumsfeld is also an evil man. It gives me no pleasure to say this about a fellow countryman. Because we share a nation of birth, his evil tarnishes me in a way that Saddam’s does not. But it would tarnish me much more if I failed to speak against his actions.

Donald Rumsfeld, you shook Saddam’s hand in 1983, as an official representative of the United States of America, which at that time hated Iran so much that it was willing to work with thugs like Hussein, and to supply them with every form of weaponry imaginable. You knew he was using poison gas, and you said not one word against it. You knew he was obtaining biological agents; you encouraged it. Now you’re point-man in parroting Bush’s litany of half-truths and outright lies about why we “must” invade Iraq. Shame on you!

By Randeep Ramesh

September 11, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this

Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, sat on the board of a company which three years ago sold two light water nuclear reactors to North Korea - a country he now regards as part of the “axis of evil” and which has been targeted for regime change by Washington because of its efforts to build nuclear weapons.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Here is a little challenge for you since you are singularly focused on how ‘we’ are ‘tearing this country apart.’

Since that is such a broad, yet inflammatory accusation, why don’t you cite some examples?

I can provide some pretty good ones of how the Bush Administration is ‘tearing this country apart.’

Care to take the bait????

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

Thomas,

You may not know for whom we are fighting but I do. I also know who we are fighting against.

We are fighting terrorism now. Our freedom and our lives will hang in the balance sooner or later. That is the choice now. All the excuses in the world won’t change that.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this

Bush’s Secretary of Defense kills our enemies everyday in numbers ten times more than they inflict on our own troops, has led a campaign that put Al Qaeda out of business (which can be attested to by no further attacks on our homeland) and has given the right to govern their own countries, in any manner that they so choose, to Afghanistan and Iraq.

Clinton’s Secretary of Defense, I dare any of you libs to name him, Cohen, did NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to the terrorists, except, of course ushering in September 11th, 2001 as though it were on a silver platter (as a credit to his legacy, however, I must admit that he killed thousands of innocent women and children from 50,000 feet above Bosnia.)

Bush’s Attorney General has instituted a series of measures that have disrupted numerous plots against Americans, protecting free citizens from nearly every democratic country in the world.

Clinton’s Attorney General gassed and burned 50 children to death in an illegal firearms case.

And which side are the liberals on?

The same liberals that see the war on Islamic Fascism as an action that should be fought by our women and children by being burned to death at work or play.

Are we fighting the wrong enemy?

Our soldiers have sacrificed their own lives to protect the lives of innocent IRAQI civilians, taking great care and placing themselves in danger to avoid civilian casualties. With only a few exceptions of INDIVIDUAL crimes against Iraqis, crime at a LESS FREQUENT RATE then those committed in Atlanta, Georgia. The vast majority of the people getting killed in Iraq are THROAT CUTTING SUICIDE BOMBING TERRORISTS, who in the hell are the liberals crying for?

How can you blame America for killing vicious religious murderers?????????????????

Unless YOU ARE AMERICA’S ENEMY<——-.

By Midori

September 11, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

I sure wish Andy would “promote this country” somewhere else — no one wants to read that stupid drivel he posts every day.

And you idiots (nee, Crusty and RW) keep encouraging him.

If you guys enjoy that claptrap so much, have at it, however, you are not the majority of posters here who feel that way.

You and your “rules”.

I remember once I pat a poster on the back for something and was loudly and soundly ridiculed by you hacks, saying I was “encouraging” him.

Yes, I do encourage people to kick you dumb jerks in the rear for being so stupid. Sue me.

But I never, ever encourage people to spam.

You lumps of flesh make me sick.

By rushncap

September 11, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Dusty, and you and your party are the “great uniters”, is that what you’re telling me? Is the only way to not “tear this country apart” is to simply roll over, let Shurbby and his neocon cabal do whatever they want to the country, no matter how much it hurts our people? Does standing together mean doing whatever it is your side is telling us to do?

As for fighting terrorism, it would be nice if we were. Instead we’re creating it by invading sovereign nations.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Bush would have got rid of Rumsfeld years ago if the liberals had just asked to keep him.

Hahaha.

They are too stupid to understand that there is no way in hell he would ever bend to their feminist metrosexual wills on matter of national security.

Now if we were talking about recreational sex, then yes, Bush would yield to liberal “experience.”

But, as always, the liberals are fixing to suffer another major defeat in their campaign to get Donald Rumsfeld.

Crash and Burn.

A major league as-s whooping.

So keep it up, Pinko Nation, make that fall hard as it can be.

By bon scott

September 11, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

Now that the Pakistan government has signed a “truce” with Islamic militants in North Waziristan, Taliban and al Qaeda supporters have a vast area where they can train and equip their followers. If you believe Pakistan’s claim that Osama and other terror ‘gods’ will be arrested if found, you also believe in the tooth fairy.

The path to this defeat began with the failure to capture Osama after 9/11. Forget the anti-Clinton hit-piece aired by ABC. There never was a clear shot at Osama before 9/11, let alone one rejected by Clinton officials. Bush knows it, the Pentagon knows it, and deep down you know it too.

However, there was one in December, 2001 when Osama was trapped in the caves of Tora Bora. He made his escape because Bush and Rumsfeld decided not to use US troops to cut him off, passing the buck to inept and easily bribed local militas instead.

President Bush didn’t care. “I truly am not that concerned about him,” Bush said in March 2002. That same month, special operations troops and other front line assets were ordered out of Afghanistan, to prepare for the pointless invasion of Iraq, where Saddam Hussein’s greed and lust for control of Iraq had thwarted efforts by Islamic fundamentalists like Osama to use Iraq as an operations and training base.

At the same time, the White House cut support to the pro-US Afghan government, again to prepare for Iraq. During the first 18 months after the Taliban were overthrown, the US provided absolutely no security for Afghanistan outside Kabul, and task forces assigned to track Osama and al Qaeda were either downsized or withdrawn.

This negligence has not only led to an increase in Taliban and al Qaeda power and influence in Afghanistan, it has led to an explosion in opium poppy cultivation. The heroin income is now funding the terrorists; and yet Republicans just this past week refused to commit more funds to anti-poppy campaigns in Afghanistan, now the source of 90% of the world’s heroin.

Now,the Taliban and Al Qaeda are gaining strength in the new safe zones in the mountains along the Afghan-Pakistan border. Meanwhile, the US remains mired in a fruitless occupation in Iraq, a country that was essentially free of Islamic fundamentalist terrorists (thanks to Saddam’s paranoia) until the invasion. Never forget that the 9/11 kingpins are still at large, five years later, and they are gro

By rushncap

September 11, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

What’s with li’l andy and “metrosexual”? Is he starting to read the papers from 3 years ago, or something? That could explain a little bit about him, I guess…

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

Lord Help Us,

You go first. Tell me about your strong Democrats for leaders and we will then talk about their qualities. I like Bush because he is strong, honest and loyal.

I don’t hate Democrats. I am sad over their behavior and their name calling. I have never watched or heard Rush. Have you? Or do you only watch Jay Leno?

Did you see the video sent by Osama? Most of the world did. Most of the world also reads and hears the lies, name-calling, and other propaganda spread here by liberals against our president who personifies our country. If you don’t think the people against us are reading that junk and using it, then you are living in the Dark Ages.

Wake up. We are fighting terrorists, not trying to give them support to kill us.

By Thomas

September 11, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

-=-

Do you now? Do you truly know Dusty? - Well if you can explain that you would be well ahead of Bush himself in doing so!

Fighting for an end to “Terrorism” — Wow such an eternal and broad war — forever locked in combat — Until there is no life left on this mudball.

Terrorism cannot be stopped - there will always be another idealism that will bring forth new terrorist, and extremist, and hatred. We in the USA even foment new terrorist by our actions of killing “The Enemy”. Each death of someone abroad breeds the chance at yet the creation of another fanatical follower, or yet another person who has lost their home to our bombs, or perhaps a loved one or child, and that person will then have such a hatred for us that they too will decide it is time to strap on a backpack and do everything in their power to blow us all to hell.

Or perhaps this country will divide one day and those that protest decide to commit acts of violence against our government (now dubbed domestic terrorism) despite the fact that by those very standards our founding fathers would be so dubbed “Terrorist” for the treasonous acts of the colonys against the King of England.

No I actually don’t think you have a clue as to what the War is truly going to accomplish, because this so called war (in name only) will never actually stop terrorism.

Thomas

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

By Midori September 11, 2006 11:39 AM You lumps of flesh make me sick.

Mission Accomplished!!

By the way, from 8:20 to 11:28 it’s nothing but pure unadulterated spam, did anyone hear Midori bit-ch about that?

Two faced loser.

And look, the blooming idiot drunkard is back from her little yellow ball festival:

By bonnie scott September 11, 2006 11:49 AM

Look up at the very top of the board^^ “genius,” you model of sobriety, see how it says “posts are limited……?”

Gee, you libs really are the smart ones, eh?

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

According to the Deranged Moron…Atlanta…is….get this…MORE DANGEROUS THAN BAGHDAD!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

My dog has more cerebral activity than this loser…

By bon scott

September 11, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

…and they are growing stronger every day. They killed innocent people in Madrid. They struck with deadly force in the London subway. They almost carried out a plan to bomb trans-Atlantic airliners out of the sky. They WILL NOT STOP until either they’re dead, or we’re dead.

President Bush is leading us all right… like lambs to the slaughter. And Osama is smiling. He really doesn’t have to do anything except inspire suicidial extremists by simply surviving. He is revered in Cairo and Islamabad. Teenagers wear T-shirts with his image in Damascus and Mogadishu. All places where so many people share a similar view of President Bush that’s reverberating across the US.

Bush’s incompetence. He not only can’t catch “the tall one”, he doesn’t even try.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

By rushncap September 11, 2006 11:50 What’s with li’l andy and “metrosexual”? Is he starting to read the papers from 3 years ago, or something? That could explain a little bit about him, I guess…

It seemed like such a good idea then, didn’t it, dic-khead?

The feminists come up with all kinds of brilliant suggestions for you sissy liberal males, especially after you took to the homosexual heredity bullsh-it.

You only encouraged them.

You really think I’m ever gonna let you forget about it, you little metrosexual, you?

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

By Lord Help You, I Pray September 11, 2006 11:59 AM According to the Great Andy …Atlanta…is….get this…MORE DANGEROUS THAN BAGHDAD!!!!!

I never said that.

Look for yourself^^^, these things don’t just evaporate.

Is it a comprehension issue, a lack of basic understanding for a pinko, is every thing cloudy for you losers?

I said, and anyone can check me, American soldiers have committed less crimes against Iraqis than have been committed against the citizens of Atlanta.

In fact, I’ll expand on this, let’s call it the whole Iraqi conflict versus ONE MONTH in Atlanta.

Pick your month, any month, loser.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Geez Crusty, This is too easy. Here is a quick example of Republicans seeking to ‘tear this country apart’ rather than strenghthen it…

The National Republican Congressional Committee, which this year dispatched a half-dozen operatives to comb through tax, court and other records looking for damaging information on Democratic candidates, plans to spend more than 90 percent of its $50 million-plus advertising budget on what officials described as negative ads.

They look desperate and don’t appear to be running on their merits…if you get my drift.

Keep trying, and don’t forget, the Democrats are the minority party. The power to do good and to screw up rests upon the majority party, unfortunately…but, that will change soon…

By bon scott

September 11, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us, you don’t understand Andy-logic.

You see, to the Resident Moran (RM), Baghdad is safer than Atlanta because more AMERICANS are killed every day in Atlanta than in Baghdad. Not surprising, since most Americans live and work in heavily fortified bases there, and venture out only in well-armed, armored convoys. Quite unlike your typical Iraqi.

The RM places absolutely no value on the lives of Iraqis. Ironic, considering he’s such a pro-life zealot. Therefore, it doesn’t matter if 50 or 100 Iraqis are killed every day in Baghdad.

They’re not really human. They don’t count.

By Thomas

September 11, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Bon Scott -

You do realize Bush never had to really work a day in his life until he became President… I mean his family paid all his bills through the family oil stocks — so why should he worry about earning a living? -

After all - When he leaves the Presidency he stands to inherit daddy’s oil stocks portfolio that his Iraq venture is currently increasing.

(Hmmmm — does Bush = Alfred E Nueman? — “What Me Worry?”)

By getalife

September 11, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

Pot to Kettle

By bon scott

September 11, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

rushncap, it’s illuminating that the RM (Resident Moran) sinks to juvenile psycho-sexual cliches when he wants to establish his “superiority”.

I’m a feminist meterosexual?? OOOOOOH! What a BEAST that RM is!!!

It’s the refuge of the mentally and morally handicapped when little things like facts and logic escape them.

I think it’s kind of funny myself! It spotlights just what a spineless weasel he is.

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Ramesh,

If Rumsfeld had been president of a company that sold nuclear reactors, he couldn’t have sold them to North Korea without the “treaties” signed by the Clinton Administration. Clinton said that N. Korea would make needed power for the benefit of the country.

That is who gave the OK to sell nuclear reactors to North Korea. Get your facts straight.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

OMG, the deranged moron is crowing about his made up statistic which postulates that our SOLDIERS in Iraq are committing fewer crimes against Iraqis than have been committed against the citizens of Atlanta.

Is that the standard you have for our soldiers? You should have more repect for them…

Are you really that desperate for some measure of ‘success?’

By Truthman

September 11, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

How ‘bout them Falcons!!

By Thomas

September 11, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

Actually Dusty and Ramesh —

That deal on the reactors was made by the Clinton Administration. It was a deal to sell North Korea 2 light water nuclear reactors, in agreement that North Korea shut down their heavy water Nuclear reactors. In the meantime the USA would supply oil to generate electricity for the country while the heavy water reactors were shut down and until they had the light water reactors in operation. This was a very good deal in closing down those heavy reactors that produce (Bomb grade) plutonium as their waste by-product.

Then along comes Bush and when a North Korean scientist admits that North Korea is still doing research into nuclear weaponry (as sadly every country is), then Bush decides to cancel the oil shipments that was producing the countries electricity. This occurred right before winter (and North Korean winters without power are quite deadly), so the North Koreans first tried to negotiate through former Clinton ambassadors and senators, but got no-where.

Now without the extra oil resources to produce electricity, no new reactors built, and the old reactors turned off they decided to break the UN seals, and re-start those heavy nuke babys’..

Bush reacted with threats of sanctions - then they counter re-acted saying time to make nukes..

After that - the rest (as they says) is history!

Thomas

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us,

I see you’ve resorted to name calling. Then the rediculous accusation implying that only Republicans use “dirty”advertising to smear candidates. Both parties do that and you call that a fight against terrorism? You really are a lost liberal from the DNC, esp. that infantile bwahhh stuff.

Then Thomas thinks that President Bush has never worked a day in his life because he is wealthy. More fairy tales. Bush is working at the hardest job in America and giving his whole heart and mind to it. He’s a worker and always has been.

Go play with Cindy Sheehan, Thomas.

bonscott,

You can say less in more words than anybody posting here. Short is better, in case you forgot the “rules”.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

By bonnie scott September 11, 2006 12:10 PM The RM places absolutely no value on the lives of Iraqis. Ironic, considering he’s such a pro-life zealot. Therefore, it doesn’t matter if 50 or 100 Iraqis are killed every day in Baghdad.

Whereas little bonnie ball chaser doesn’t consider inner city Atlantans to be human, “they don’t count.”

That’s why liberals wail about terrorists getting killed but shrug off those dying in Atlanta.

They got their little ghetto and they get their menial pittance checks every two weeks, right, bonnie?

Why should they care about getting raped and murdered?

You liberals have done SO much for them.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this

By bonnie ball chaser September 11, 2006 12:16 PM I’m a feminist meterosexual?? OOOOOOH! What a BEAST that RM is!!!

How is that any different than you calling people you don’t even know “drunks?”

Let me guess, because it’s alright if you do it, you’re a pinko and hypocrisy is no big deal.

By Midori

September 11, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

The only thing that Bush works hard at is fundraising. Period.

That’s ALL he gives his heart and mind to.

By Midori

September 11, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

Go, Moby, Go!!

go home, gw. Sep 10, 2006 - nyc

dear president bush, stay out of new york. you don’t like us and we don’t like you. 90% of us voted for john kerry in the last election. we don’t trust you, and we believe, based on your record, that you’ve been a terrible president. you’re supposed to come to new york city today. you’re not welcome here. you only come to new york city when you need to bolster your poll numbers. you came here after 9-11 even though you ignored warnings of terrorist attacks and cut funding to anti-terrorist programs. you came here for the rnc convention even though your policies have made america less safe. you are not welcome in nyc. go back to texas where you can cut wood for the tv cameras. or go back to washington d.c where you can watch dick cheney run the country. you are a liar. you are inept. you are probably the worst president that the united states has ever had to endure. you are not welcome in nyc. we are not your cheap whore, to use whenever your poll numbers are in the toilet. we are not your crappy prop, to use when you’re worried that you might have to deal with the consequences of your failed policies. you suck, and we don’t want you here. everything you’ve done has gone wrong. you are in the pocket of the oil and defense industries, and the poor idiots on the religious right actually sometimes believe that you care about them and their agenda. you only believe in issues that will keep your corporate backers happy. you are an awful, inept, corrupt, and tragically incompetent president. and i’m sorry that you’ve chosen to come to new york city on 9-11. we didn’t vote for you and we’re not in any way happy that you’re here. go home, gw, and let us just get on with living our lives in the city that was attacked due to your pre 9-11 ineptitude and incomptetence. -moby

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

By Lord Help You, I Pray September 11, 2006 12:18 PM OMG, the deranged moron is crowing about his made up statistic which postulates that our SOLDIERS in Iraq are committing fewer crimes against Iraqis than have been committed against the citizens of Atlanta.

Let me show you all what a mental weakling this maggot is:

There have been a total of maybe 15 soldiers found guilty or even charged with crimes against Iraqi civilians, anybody want to say that less then 15 people in Atlanta have been raped or murdered?

Step right up y’all.

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

Thomas,

Twist & turn. Oh yes, North Korea just wanted to warm their little houses with the reactors that Clinton gave them. Then they stopped all inspectors and shot missiles into the sea just to keep warm. And Bush threw them out in the cold. Yep, Bush Did It.

That’s a good one, Thomas. Keep on putting out that pretzel prattle.

By bon scott

September 11, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

September 11, 2006 12:48 PM - How is that any different than you calling people you don’t even know “drunks?”

I don’t even hint at my sexual orientation or sex in what I write. But you ramble on like a terminal alcoholic.

Labelling you a drunk is actually a kindness.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

Crusty, typical wingnut obfuscation. YOU were the one making accusations about how ‘(we) are tearing this country apart.’ I simply challenged you on it…and you failed, miserably. The FACT that I gave you a perfect example of Republican engagement in the politics of personal destruction does not infer that they are solely guilty of that offense. They absolutely have plenty of company.

You don’t like (and can’t handle) challenges do you? That’s okay, if my ‘principles’ and ideology were as flimsy as those of you and the Deranged Moron, I’d objuscate, hide and lie too…

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

By You’re Right, Where Is Osama? September 11, 2006 12:48 PM By bonnie ball chaser September 11, 2006 12:16 PM I’m a feminist meterosexual?? OOOOOOH! What a BEAST that RM is!!!

I missed one, little bonnie ball chaser doesn’t mind being called a metrosexual.

I’ll have to keep that in mind.

Midori two face: You mean like selling the Lincoln bedroom or nuclear secrets to the Chinese, that kind of “fundraising?”

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

Farewell foolish faultfinders,

I go to remember “the valor of those we lost”. Not finding too much “valor” here. As has been said, this IS a liberal blog.

By bon scott

September 11, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this

By Dusty - September 11, 2006 12:38 PM - You can say less in more words than anybody posting here. Short is better, in case you forgot the “rules”.

By the standards of Andy, the Resident Moron (RM) I’m positively succinct!! You carry this double-standard thing to new depths with your snottiness… don’t you?

Okay, how’s this for brevity??

In a report that some have said is the most negative yet filed by a senior military officer in Iraq, the chief of intelligence for the US Marine Corps in Iraq concluded that the possibilities of the US and Iraqi governments securing the troubled western Iraqi province of Anbar are remote. - Christian Science Monitor 9/11/06

The US is neck deep in Iraqi quicksand. Osama and his terrorists are romping over the hills of Afghanistan and Pakistan, plotting new attacks while we’re stuck 1000s of miles away, wasting American lives and money.

And you don’t care.

By Thomas

September 11, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

Bah —

I just recited the History of events there —

Personally I think Kim Jong’ was best represented in the Movie “Team America” for the little sycopanth he is. I think Kim Jong is a loony whack who has delusions of Granduer—

But yes - There is no denying the fact that the electricity was being produced by oil supplied by us during the switchover from heavy to light water reactors. And yes! Electricity is very nessecery to the homes and lives of North Koreans just as it is nessecery in the good ol’ USA to keep us going in winter too.

Whatever they used it for doesn’t matter. What does matter is the cutting that electricty supply off (or down in this case) right before the most important period of the year after our agreements is what set them off in re-starting the Heavys’.

You say twist and turn — Nah — I can’t stand the government of North Korea - and thats why I approved the Clinton plan to get them off Heavy water Nukers.. And such a good plan was shot down in flames by Bush’s over-reaction and deeds — So no matter how you spin it - Bush is the reason there are nukes in North Korea now. He’s the one that threw the first punch!

Back at yah’ — Spin and Spin —- eh?

Thomas

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

Deranged Moron, you are so, so pitiful. IS THIS ALL YOU HAVE!!!!

I would hope that your expectation would be that none of our military in Iraq would commit crimes against Iraqi citizens. Yet, the fact that only a small number have been convicted constitutes some immoral measure of success to you???

Myself, I do not consider Atlanta a safe city, but (not going out on a limb here…) consider it infinitely safer than Baghdad. However, if you want to grasp at straws here, be my guest.

However, your ridiculous, fictional analogy serves only to illustrate how desperate you are for some (ANY) minute measure of success.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this

By Lord Help You, I Pray September 11, 2006 01:23 PM However, your ridiculous, fictional analogy serves only to illustrate how desperate you are for some (ANY) minute measure of success.

It is a comprehension issue with this mental midget.

Desperate?

I’m desperate?

I’m the one with no attacks in 5 years, I got purple fingers.

You got purple faces, plump with vein bursting rage.

I wouldn’t trade places with your lame a-ss for all the tea in China.

My analogy on Iraq and Atlanta only serves to illustrate how lame YOUR POSITION is, your only hope being when a single American soldier murders or rapes, while single Americans raping and murdering in Atlanta don’t warrant a peep from your otherwise hysterical filthy mouth.

You lose.

Go stand on Moreland Avenue at 3 AM, you clown.

You libs always learn the hard way.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

Hey Stupid,

If you don’t believe me how about the CHIEF of INTELLIGENCE for the MARINE CORPS in IRAQ:

The chief of intelligence for the Marine Corps in Iraq recently filed an unusual secret report concluding that the prospects for securing that country’s western Anbar province are dim and that there is almost nothing the U.S. military can do to improve the political and social situation there, said several military officers and intelligence officials familiar with its contents. The officials described Col. Pete Devlin’s classified assessment of the dire state of Anbar as the first time that a senior U.S. military officer has filed so negative a report from Iraq.

Does Col. Pete Devlin ‘got (sic) purple faces, plump with bursting rage?’ Huh, punk?

Here’s a challenge, put on your biggest ‘W’ button and go stand in Sadr city in Baghdad and I’ll go stand on Moreland ave at 3am. We’ll see who lasts the longest…LOSER!

By getalife

September 11, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this

Now Andy is scared to death of Americans in Atlanta.

Coward.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

By Lord Help This Purple Face, I Pray September 11, 2006 01:43 PM Hey Stupid

Gosh, All I had to do was read your link, purple face:

{{{{Not everyone interviewed about the report agrees with its glum findings. The Defense Department official, who worked in Iraq earlier this year, said his sense is that Anbar province is going to be troubled as long as U.S. troops are in Iraq. “Lawlessness is a way of life there,” he said. As for the report, he said, “It’s one conclusion about one area. The conclusion on al Anbar doesn’t translate into a perspective on the entire country.”}}}}

And plus, any idiot should be able to figure this one out on their own, although I see you struggling with it, THE GUY IS ASKING FOR HELP IN ANBAR, you freaking socialist pervert.

That’s what you do when things aren’t going good.

This would be like writing off all of Atlanta because of Moreland Avenue.

I’m headed to Baghdad, twerpy, you be sure to hit Moreland this evening.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this

Man, what a purple face, plump with bursting rage the Chief of Intelligence for the MARINE CORPS in IRAQ has:

Devlin reports that there are no functioning Iraqi government institutions in Anbar, leaving a vacuum that has been filled by the insurgent group al-Qaeda in Iraq, which has become the province’s most significant political force, said the Army officer, who has read the report. Another person familiar with the report said it describes Anbar as beyond repair; a third said it concludes that the United States has lost in Anbar.

Why, he must HATE America…He didn’t say we are making progress, he didn’t say the insurgency is in its last throes, he said the U.S. has lost in Anbar.

C’mon, Deranged Moron, tell us what you think of Col. Pete Devlin…

By The Way

September 11, 2006 02:04 PM | Link to this

Andy’s absorbing stream-of-consciousness blogs today are tugging at the strings of my heart.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

Hey Stupid,

You’re right, ‘That’s what you do when things aren’t going good.’ And they definitely aren’t going good…Thanks for proving my point.

Guess you’re one of the ‘purple face, plump with bursting rage’ defeatists now, huh?

By getalife

September 11, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

“I’m headed to Baghdad”

About frigging time you sacrifice something besides your mouth for what you say you believe in.

My guess is you are lying as usual and still a coward.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

Hey Stupid,

You’re right, ‘That’s what you do when things aren’t going good.’ And they definitely aren’t going good…Thanks for proving my point.

Guess you’re one of the ‘purple face, plump with bursting rage’ defeatists now, huh?

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

Hey Stupid,

You’re right, ‘That’s what you do when things aren’t going good.’ And they definitely aren’t going good…Thanks for proving my point.

Guess you’re one of the ‘purple face, plump with bursting rage’ defeatists now, huh?

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

By Lord Help This Purple Face, I Pray September 11, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this Hey Stupid,

We’re at war with Islamic Fascism, you drooling bib wearer.

I’m a realist, I don’t stay in the fever swamps.

If we could wave our little pinko magic wand then we would, goofball.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

No ‘pinko magic wands needed…’

I’d settle for honesty and competence.

By Buy Danish

September 11, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Thomas,

Your description of George Bush sounds an awful lot like Ted Kennedy, and your use of the word “idealists” to describe Islamofascists is a dead giveaway as to where your loyalties lie.

Bon Scott,

We know you are “finch”, a male metrosexual feminist who lives in the vicinity of Hilton Head. Your vain attempts to disassociate yourself from your former “persona” is a joke that only your useful idiot friends would be gullible enough to buy into.

Midori,

Moby? What gravitas! Is that a mango he’s holding?

What a bunch of freaking losers.

Later maybe.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

By Lord Help This Purple Face, I Pray September 11, 2006 02:45 PM I’d settle for honesty and competence.](R)

Please.

You’ve got an 8 year history, “I didn’t have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky” where all you libs did was flop around on the floor like a bunch of fish.

Why do you think all these filthy pinkos came out from under their rocks to try and censor this ABC movie?

They got something to hide, maybe?

George Bush looks like Washington compared to that nasty cabal.

By rushncap

September 11, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

Li’l andy, I thought you left for Baghdad… may we assume you’re using a wireless connection then?

By rushncap

September 11, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

Damn Danish, that time of the month? A bit chippy, ain’t we?

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

That IS ALL You HAVE, isn’t it, Stupid?

Well, yea Iraq is a disaster, Afghanistan is deteriorating, deficit spending is setting records year after year, the national debt is exploding, Iran is actively (and openly) acquiring nuclear technology, North Korea is advancing its nuclear arsenal, Hezbollah is a major part of Lebanon’s democracy, Hamas has been democratically elected in the Palestinian territories, our borders are more porous than ever, our ports are nowhere near secured, we suffered the worst terorist attach on our soil, etc., etc., etc.

ALL ON BUSH’s WATCH…

BUT, at least Bush has’nt lied about a BJ!!!

By bon scott

September 11, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

By Buy Danish - September 11, 2006 02:57 PM - We know you are “finch”, a male metrosexual feminist…

My darling Copenhagen cretin;

If I were this finch person, I’d be laughing and patting myself on the back for inspiring your defensiveness and paranoia.

This finch keeps you up at night? Steals your sleep? Haunts your dreams? Rattles your world?

Good.

By Thomas

September 11, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

Dusty —

Really!

Even you know thats the GoP word doctoring effect…

IslamoFascist? -

Hmm —- yet another branded CatchPrase recently invented to muddy the waters of spin control by trying to make islam look like Nazi’s all with the same goal of propaganda by the administration and their worshippers—

Sorry Dusty - I call a Spade a Spade

A rose by any other name — and an IslamaFascist is still an “idealist” who hates our guts…

Thomas

By bon scott

September 11, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

By You’re Right, Where Is Osama? - September 11, 2006 02:00 PM - I’m headed to Baghdad, twerpy, you be sure to hit Moreland this evening.

We could hope, but we know you’re not. True to your rep as RM (Resident Moran), you’re already about 3 sheets. You’re ranting again.

And you’re a coward. Have another drink.

By Huge

September 11, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this

On this solemn day of rememberance and mourning, ALL Americans should be standing together, as one, with resolve and courage.

It is a day to honor the dead including the fire fighters, police, and so many other heroes who lost their lives five years ago. It is a day to be proud of ourselves as Americans and what we stand for. We may disagree on what that is, but for goodness sakes, put your anger and bitterness to each other aside for ONE day, won’t you?!

If you won’t respect each other, at least respect yourselves enough to not look like blathering fools on this sacred day.

By w00t

September 11, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

For the past five years I’ve criss-crossed the Middle East. There are common threads. The common people are mostly warm and welcoming. But there is a sea change under way. The looks I get from those who don’t know me are far less happy than they used to be. Wherever I go, faces are souring.

That’s how it was when I got off the plane here. I know the Pakistanis. I know how warm and friendly they are. A few months ago I brought my wife and daughters here for a wedding. It was a wonderful experience they’ll never forget. But the fact is, people just aren’t as happy to see Westerners as they used to be. We come with baggage.

Ask anyone why and they’ll tell you, “your government, Mr. Blair,” or sometimes they think I’m American, “Mr. Bush is against Muslims.” Why else, their argument goes, would your soldiers kill Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan?

We need to catch Bin Laden. He was the original goal of this mess, and we should have stuck to it. Bush shouldn’t be allowed to quote him and talk about Osama in his political speeches if he hasn’t “thought” about bin laden, and dropped their search form him. We could have had him in Tora Bora if only Rumsfield had listened to the guys on the ground. There were roughly 50-60 Special Forces and CIA guys fighting to capture Osama. They asked for a battalion of rangers, and it never came.

It’s just another tick in an every increasing list of failures by the Bush administration.

I went to the Field of Flags this weekend and all I could think about is if we had failed those that the flags represented. What would they have thought? Did we do the right thing? Would they be happy with our actions? I’m sure that some would say yes, but I think most would have wanted us to go directly to the source.

At least, let us remember those that passed on this horrible day five years ago.

By Lord Help Us

September 11, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this

I have this great image in my head of the Deranged Moron walking the streets of Sadr city in Baghdad with his ‘I love Bush’ shirt.

He could espouse the drivel he posts here and see how those residents react. I think it would be a good opportunity for him to impress upon them how much Bush has done for them and how grateful they should be. Heck, he could call them pinko, commie, cowards if they disagree.

Man, that would be worth watching…

By Buy Danish

September 11, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

Bon Scott aka Finch,

Don’t flatter yourself.

By hmmmm...

September 11, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

If the drunk dead rock star isn’t finch I wonder how he knew it was a poster rather than an insult…..

By Cindy

September 11, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

I decided to take RW’s advice and read Andy. Nope, I cannot stomach Andy’s typical attacks on females. I bet he doesn’t believe the female soldiers in Iraq should be making the same pay as the male soldiers. And if he is the voice of the conservative party, then I will be a proud liberal and keep my freedoms and continue to gain equality for women.

And Mike, you are right on again.

By bon scott

September 11, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

By hmmmm… - September 11, 2006 04:38 PM - If the drunk dead rock star isn’t finch I wonder how he knew it was a poster rather than an insult…..

You’re clearly new to the English language. Let me give you some help. General insults are usually preceeded by an article, such as ‘a’. For example, you are a dweeb. You are a moran. Your are an imbecile.

Proper nouns, on the other hand, don’t use that embellishment. You are Danish Moran. Not a Danish Moran.

Actually, you’re both. But you get the idea.

Signed, not finch.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

By Cindy September 11, 2006 04:53 PM I decided to take RW’s advice and read Andy.

If you don’t know the difference between a woman and a feminist then you’re trapped within your own ignorance.

Besides which I seriously doubt if this is the first time you’ve read my comments.

And I know it won’t be the last.

I’m addictive.

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

Amazing. You decided Andy was making typical attacks on women. Wrong. Andy is attacking anti-Americanism in EVERYBODY that displays it. He doesn’t discriminate.

Strange you missed rushncap’s daily “accusations” about the physiologic aspects of women. Gender insults at the lowest level.

I gather it is OK to be insulting to women IF you are a liberal male.

By bon scott

September 11, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Andy. Most Americans who are critical of George Bush don’t hate him. That’s a scarlet letter the neocons like to pin on them as part of their campaign to question their patriotism.

Won’t work. Most Americans who reject Bush’s leadership, especially into the pigfark that’s become Iraq and the war on “terra” don’t hate the guy. He’s not evil. Probably make a nice neighbor. He’d be a good assistant manager at WalMart. But as he’s proven in his life, he can’t run an oil company. He can’t run a baseball team. And he can’t run the US.

But isn’t the National Review’s condemnation of Bush critics a little too over the edge? They strive to demonize the opposition by accusing them of demonizing President Bush. But they’re not doing that! How cheap and sophomoric can you get?

We’re not all Cindy Sheehans or Michael Moores or Al Sharptons. We’re law abiding, patriotic Americans who want to take our country back from the sadly misguided neocons trying to hijack it.

Like you.

By Dusty

September 11, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

bon scott,

I find that National Review article crystal clear and right on the mark. Yet you backed off like you had burnt your fingers.

In fact you started posting quite sweetly for a few lines. But it won’t work. You have already declared your infamous stand right along with the rest of your liberal buddies. You can’t back off now and say “It aint so.”

By RW-(the original)

September 11, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this

Huge,

Nice post. It’s a shame that the liberal lunatics on this blog couldn’t control themselves for one day. Andy provided a nice start to the day with some commemorative articles which would have been nice to discuss, but the usual suspects would have none of that.

If they aren’t actually waging a battle of their own to bring down this great country then I join you in wondering how they can look themselves in the mirror.

finch aka drunken rock star idiot,

Seek help!

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

By bonnie ball chaser September 11, 2006 05:24 Sorry, Andy. Most Americans who are critical of George Bush don’t hate him. Blah, blah, blah.

That’s real cute, you ever heard of the saying “with friends like that?” I’ll bet George would be happee to be your little yellow ball chasing as-ses neighbor.

You liberals are pathological liars, it’s a mental thing. I know for a damn fact that your live is so shallow and so guilt ridden that you have to hate America and it’s leaders with a purple raging passion just to give meaning to your pitiful pointless existence.

What other reason could there be?

It’s like someone burning down their own house, there’s some weird sh-it going on in your mind.

Have fun with it.

By @@

September 11, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

The problem with posters who change their names is that eventually they revert back to the same metaphors and applied language that were used prior to their attempts to hide under a new name.

Once “Creep Seeking Missile” was outed as finch, he disappeared and “bon scott” appeared. Now if this plays out as I predict, “Creep Seeking Missile” will return claiming to have been lurking all this time and not posting.

So what’s wrong with the original “finch” I wonder? Only he can answer that question. We wait and wonder.

By bon scott

September 11, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

“Stay the course” says the White House. “Appeasement” warns Rummy. Meanwhile, Cheney and Condi say, no kidding, really, Saddam and Osama were playing footsie, no matter what that Senate report says. Would they lie to you??

Meanwhile, the real terrorists, who are NOT in Iraq, plot and prepare:

In North and South Waziristan, the tribal regions along the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan, an alliance of extremist groups that includes al-Qaeda, Pakistani and Afghan Taliban, Central Asians, and Chechens has won a significant victory against the army of Pakistan. The army, which has lost some 800 soldiers in the past three years, has retreated, dismantled its checkpoints, released al-Qaeda prisoners and is now paying large “compensation” sums to the extremists.

This region, considered “terrorism central” by U.S. commanders in Afghanistan, is now a fully operational al-Qaeda base area offering a wide range of services, facilities, and military and explosives training for extremists around the world planning attacks. Waziristan is now a regional magnet. In the past six months up to 1,000 Uzbeks, escaping the crackdown in Uzbekistan after last year’s massacre by government security forces in the town of Andijan, have found sanctuary with al-Qaeda in Waziristan.

This is just what I said in my 11:49am post.

We did not kill them when we had the chance. And now they are getting stronger, while the US mucks around in the Iraq sandpit.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

By rushncap

September 11, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

To wit

By RW-(the original) September 11, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this Huge, Nice post. It’s a shame that the liberal lunatics on this blog couldn’t control themselves for one day.

Ah, the sublime ability to go from indignant patriot to a blathering hypocite all within a space of 2 sentences. Mad skillz, dawg, wicked mad.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 11, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this

By bonnie ball chaser September 11, 2006 05:54 PM Meanwhile, the real terrorists, who are NOT in Iraq, plot and prepare:

Look at this filthy little pervert, the only hope and bright spot in it’s mundane, worthless life is when the she thinks the country she lives in is getting beat.

What an utter, absolute failure. A total loss.

By RW-(the original)

September 11, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

See ^ ^, another lunatic heard from at 6:03. All anyone has to do is read rushncap. Just because you can’t keep up with more than two posts doesn’t mean everyone has those challenges.

By RW-(the original)

September 11, 2006 06:22 PM | Link to this

Here’s what your typical Democrat is doing to mark this anniversary

{{{{“My brother died on 9/11 - don’t make this political,” a woman in audience cried out.}}}}

By Huge

September 11, 2006 06:22 PM | Link to this

RW,

Thanks. I again mistakenly thought I might help minimize some of the vitriol here, from BOTH sides. On this day especially, it would be nice to see people who disagree come together and show some decency to each other. As I’ve said before, we’re all in this together…

By rushncap

September 11, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this

RW, 2 of your posts is all a healthy human male can stomach in a considerable amount of time.

By getalife

September 11, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this

Wow RW,

Posting about a death on 9/11 to make a political point is an all time low for you.

@@,

You are losing it, “finch” is not here.

I am shocked, shocked I say, of what you have become.

By Huge

September 11, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

Today on CNN, there is a ticker scrolling along the bottom with the names and hometowns of all those killed in the attacks. I was struck by the enormous variety: Latino names, Korean names, Indian or Pakistani names, Japanese names, Irish names, African names and on and on and on.

Black, white, yellow, brown. Old and young. Rich and poor. I’m sure some of those peole were rabid conservatives. And I’m sure some of them were ultra liberal. But now, it doesn’t matter; they’re all gone.

But to me, this truly demonstrates how our diversity is exactly what makes us unique and great! And not just diversity of ethnicity or race, but of opinion, of experiences and of talents. Lets cherish that.

By RW-(the original)

September 11, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this

Aw rushncap, is that anything like waiting thirty minutes after a meal before swimming? I’ll tell you tomorrow what I meant.

Huge,

Read the very short article I linked at 6:22 for a contrast of the two sides you are talking about. I agree with you that the two sides should be America and those that want to harm us. That feeling is shared by every conservative on this blog.

By RW-(the original)

September 11, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I can only assume you are talking about my tribute to Joseph Angelini Sr. as part of the 2,996 project. If so what do you find the least bit political about it?

By getalife

September 11, 2006 06:51 PM | Link to this

W’s speech tonight will be about unity to solve the problems.

The decider has decided to unify the country.

That is rich since he had it and decided to throw it away invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

By getalife

September 11, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this

No RW,

”{{{{“My brother died on 9/11 - don’t make this political,” a woman in audience cried out.}}}}”

I thought were against this kind of crap.

Flip Flop or hypocrite?

By Honu

September 11, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

Hi Andy – I wanted to thank you for your first post this morning, “At Ground Zero and Beyond.” I am convinced that if any of the contributors here would have just stopped to read it, there may have been a different, more mellow, tone today. If nothing else, perhaps the sentences — “We need the boldness of the president, particularly in dangerous times, and the editors conducting these [New York Sun] columns spent the latter part of the 1990s making that point against the special prosecutor going after Mr. Clinton” and “This is something to keep in mind as Mr. Bush returns to Washington today to address the nation on the war” — might have spoken to a few hearts.

The paragraph on contrasting uniforms was also very moving, at least to me. Again, I thank you. Have a nice evening.

By @@

September 11, 2006 07:08 PM | Link to this

RW’s tribute on his site was a great opportunity to connect on a personal level. For all I knew Mr. Angelini and his son were Democrats. Very possibly the family as well. That mattered not to me. I left a message for the family. Thanks RW.

Somebody posted a site at Wooten’s offering an opportunity to remember with deeds of kindness. I checked that one out too.

Getalife, maybe you should spend less time in the dark dungeons of negativity and get back to being the compassionate you that was….

I truly believe you are enjoying your perspective and projection though. Truly I do. How very sad for you.

By Buy Danish

September 11, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this

Bon Scott aka Creep finch,

Sorry but HMMMMM is not me. Now if you could learn to talk in something other than DU talking points you might be able to disguise who YOU are. Everything you say as “Bon Scott” is just a boring replay of what you said as “finch”.

You are either the world’s worst liar, mentally ill, or both. Maybe you’re really Bill Clinton too?

RW,

At the rate getalife is going it will be considered “an all time low” to print obituaries of veterans (unless of course they are “anti-war” veterans).

Huge,

Thank you for your call for unity. Now that you have had a revelation about who the victims of 9/11 represented, maybe you can get on board in identifying who the enemy is and refrain from calling those of us who are absolutely clear on the subject as “bigots”.

By bon scott

September 11, 2006 07:19 PM | Link to this

By You’re Right, Where Is Osama? - September 11, 2006 06:09 PM - Look at this filthy little pervert, the only hope and bright spot in it’s mundane, worthless life is when the she thinks the country she lives in is getting beat.

Andy, you wretched sot. I don’t ever want to see the US disgraced and defeated. But obviously you do.

Why do you hate America?

It’s time for keyboard patriots like you (once you sober up) to realize the US has to stop playing pattycake in Afghanistan and Pakistan and hunt down the real terrorists there. This is why the Iraq stalemate is such a frigging waste.

But you can’t see this because you’re too drunk. Were you and Christopher Hitchens separated at birth?

I’ve decided it would be a waste for you to go to Baghdad, even though you said you would. Go to Tora Bora instead. Even with the shakes from alcohol withdrawl, you’d make a great human shield for the US Special Forces as they hunt for Osama and his fellow killers. Do one good thing in your life. Catch a bullet for real patriots.

RW - Thank you for defining hypocricy so brilliantly in your post. You’re nothing but talk, and cheap talk at that.

By RW-(the original)

September 11, 2006 07:19 PM | Link to this

getalife,

That was the comment made by a woman that came to a memorial service having lost her brother on 9/11. The DEMOCRAT Congressman decided to take the occasion to make it political and you want to blame me for it. I’m sorry for what has become of you, I used to really think of you as extended family.

By RW-(the original)

September 11, 2006 07:33 PM | Link to this

finch,

Seek help NOW!!! But before you go could you have one of the voices in your head tell us what the hell you are babbling about. Get General Seeker on the case if you must.

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