Mike Luckovich

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 7, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

You’re right, where is Osama?

Gee, considering that 3000 more people haven’t been burned to death at work in the last 5 years, I say we leave him right where Bush put him.

Unless you liberals WANT more dead Americans?

It’s funny to think about but I know the greatness of America, and no, liberals, I’m not talking about our sex industry. We’ve probably got Bin Laden wired for sound and are listening to every move Al Qaeda makes right from the horse’s mouth.

Haha, Pakistan has “invited” him into his “own little country.”

It figures the libs would fall for that, keeping their sucker legacy intact.

Fitzmas and BinLadenstan, it doesn’t take much to string a pinko along.

When we need him caught, that’s when you’ll see him caught.

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The program’s great faults are —they say— in the inaccurate portrayal of Bill Clinton and his furrowed brow and continual efforts to track down bin Laden. {{{{{It is all about them, you see.}}}}} Just as it was in the ’90s. To hell with O’Neill or the victims of 9/11, and forget about the worldwide menace that continues to nurse its hatred, though now from caves and not compounds.-TownHall

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They scare you with the “draft,” I scare you with a tax hike:

The problem facing Democrats is the dilemma if they gain control of the government in the 2006 and 2008 elections. Casey, a moderate liberal, is typical of Democrats unwilling to downsize social welfare programs. After pummeling Republicans about budget deficits, their only recourse is higher taxes — a course fraught with political and economic perils.-RealClearPolitics

So who do you believe?

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 7, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

The Times also, incredibly, persists in asserting that “Mr. Wilson debunked the claim that Saddam Hussein tried to buy uranium from Niger to make nuclear weapons.” ———>Do the Times editorial writers read anything other than their own editorial page?<—————AmericanSpectator

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From what Gaidar told me, we needed to have revived these committees with a focus not so much on Hollywood but on the media itself. We know that one New York Times reporter, who always portrayed Stalin as Good Old Uncle Joe, was in fact a Communist and operated for decades on the Times staff. Were there any more? How about the Washington Post?-TownHall

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But Islamic terrorists are attacking people on nearly every continent — many who have little or nothing to do with U.S. foreign policy. Multicultural, huggy-bear, we’re-not-in-Iraq Canada has uncovered a plot by 17 Muslims to invade its Parliament and chop off the prime minister’s head. Perhaps terrorists see countries that make sensitive analyses of their complaints as easy marks. If so, then the eagerness to prettify mass murder with “root causes” could itself be a root cause. –RealClearPolitics

By w00t

September 7, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

Yes, Where is Osama Mr. Bush? Yet another failure and let down by the do nothing, do everything wrong administration.

By Brian Curtis

September 7, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

Now that’s something worth remembering.

By candide

September 7, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

Where’s America? Asleep in church or watching football on tv.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 7, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this

But when each complaint was settled, another louder one sprung up; these grievances, it turned out, were pretexts for a larger sense of victimhood, jealousy and lost pride. And appeasement - treating the first World Trade Center bombing as a mere criminal justice matter or virtually ignoring the attack on the USS Cole - only spurred on further aggression.-RealClearPolitics

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If there is any wonder why we haven’t won the war on terror yet this pretty much removes it:

Bush admits to anti-terror CIA program-WashingtonTimes

Admits? To who?

First of all, I don’t see how even a liberal could object to the CIA being an anti terror organization, oh wait, ummm, yea, we are talking about pinkos, never mind.

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Just as anti-Semitism was harnessed to bring down Weimar, hatred of the Jews keeps trouble on the boil today in the Middle East. Anti-Semitism is the refuge of cowards who are eager to exploit the appetite for hatred of the Jews. Anti-Semitism in the ’20s and ’30s was respectable in Germany, just as it is fashionable today among certain intellectuals and creative artists, including some Jews. Describing the Israelis as the “new Nazis” invites no outrage among certain bright young (and old) things who decry bigotry in others.-WashingtonTimes

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Today’s cartoon that doesn’t suck!

By w00t

September 7, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

Andy, whatever, if you were so concerned about the Deaths of September 11th, then you would and should be asking the question. It does the families of 9/11 a great injustice by not finding and capturing Osama. That’s what Bush promised and that’s what they and this country should get. Nothing more, nothing less. Bush let Osama get away. End of Story.

However, because of the great blunder that is Iraq, the United States is less secure than ever before.

By Edwin Williams

September 7, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

I cannot imagine a cartoon in poorer taste. This even beats the one that EVERYBODY hated which slammed the wounded soldiers. This even beats the one done when Don Knotts died. You are a sick puppy Luckovich.

By w00t

September 7, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this

Oh, he left Afganistan out to dry too. Do we even remember why we went there? Hello, anyone there?

“NATO’s top commander on Thursday urged allied nations to send reinforcements to war-ravaged southern Afghanistan.”

By w00t

September 7, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

Edwin, grow up and grow a pair. Step up to the fact that your president failed you. Stop whining about a silly cartoon and ask your president to do something that he promised this country.

By Momma Ain't Happy

September 7, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

MACON, Ga. - President Bush’s once-solid relationship with Southern women is on the rocks. “I think history will show him to be the worst president since Ulysses S. Grant,” said Barbara Knight, a self-described Republican since birth and the mother of three. “He’s been an embarrassment.” In the heart of Dixie, comparisons to Grant, a symbol of the Union, is the worst sort of insult, especially from a Macon woman who voted for Bush in 2000 but turned away in 2004.

That cinches it, the Republicans are through. When Momma ain’t happy, ain’t anybody happy ! ! !

By Brian Curtis

September 7, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

It’s disrespectful to point out the president’s failures and crimes, dammit! The media who report on these facts should be punished for disloyalty!

Obviously, things would be MUCH better if all journalists were simply obedient stenographers, if not active propagandists for whatever failures and misdeeds the administration commits. THAT’s the American ideal, you betcha.

Quit trying to shoot the messenger, neocons. You’ve blown it, and your hero Bush is in freefall. The 9/11 victims would’ve been better served with Krusty the Clown in office.

By Pork Barrel Politics

September 7, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Farm-state senators are increasing their request for drought relief dollars by half, saying the nation’s farmers now need an estimated $6 billion or more in assistance.

This one belongs to the Democrats as much as the Republicans although the Republicans have the majority and they ain’t gonna stop it. Warm up the pork-barrel, elections are coming ! ! !

By @@

September 7, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

Can we blame the messenger ABC when Pakistan says they lied?

Pakistani General Denies Bin Laden Comments

Major General Shaukat Sulta told the Associated Press that the ABC News report was “fabricated” and “absurd” and he never said the words attributed to him.

Now who was it that believed this lie?

Oh yea…..the liberals.

By Republican Open Borders

September 7, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. congressional leaders are giving up on broad immigration legislation that would legalize millions of illegal immigrants and will concentrate instead on border security before the elections, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said on Wednesday.

What would you expect from the Republican DO NOTHING congress ! ! ! In other words, after the election, the Republicans will move full steam ahead to throw open the borders to a brazillion illegal invader ‘guest workers’.

By Dusty

September 7, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Edwin Williams,

Thank you for your accurate post. Luckovich excels in anti-American cartoons. No use to call it anything else because that is what it is.

This is supported by liberals who have an organized effort to sink this country because Democrats are not the leading political party.

Read this morning’s posts. Although we have a strong government in place in Afghanistan and NATO is now keeping reconstruction efforts going, posters like Woot want to claim Americans have left Afghans “out to dry”. What Woot is doing is leaving American troops “out to dry” while some still die on the mountains of Afghanistan. That is how liberals are supporting our efforts in the Middle East.

Liberals say they support the military. Which one? Ours or the terrorists?

By Scooter

September 7, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this

ml, Osama is a symptom of the problem Bush is attempting to fix and you want to continue treating the symptom, Just like we have been doing for thirty years. Treat the symptom and buy a few years of “peace and prosperity” until the disease kills more of us.

By gadem

September 7, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

So then where is Osama????? You die-hard Republicans???? Andy keeps saying that we have not been attacked in five years, but since this invalid war in Iraq started, there have been more than 3000 killed…Andy I know your little neo-con brain can not process that…but these young men and women are actually dying for nothing also…

By What'll They Do AFTER the Election

September 7, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Baghdad recorded more than 1,500 violent deaths in August, according to final figures released by the Health Ministry this week — nearly three times the preliminary figure the same ministry had released last week. The figure is a sharp contradiction of U.S. and Iraqi claims that a security crackdown led to a steep drop in deaths in the capital.

The Iraq/American puppet government sure is trying to prop up their Republican handlers prior to the election. Now don’t you wonder why we finally see some minor effort of the Iraqis to get off the american welfare titty prior to the fall elections? We should at least be happy that we’ll have a couple of months of ‘progress’ before they claim some excuse to return to the same old ‘hand-outs’as usual after the elections ! ! !

By Cocoa Puffs

September 7, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

Today’s cartoon is the must see cartoon of the year! I laughed, I cried. That caricature of Bush stays hilarious. It captures that man better than Katie did last night when she tricked that dumbo into saying, “My job is to link Iraq with the war on terror.”

Dumbest think I ever heard. How ‘bout you?

By Ahmadinejad's Republican Values

September 7, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran’s hard-line president urged students Tuesday to push for a purge of liberal and secular university teachers, another sign of his determination to strengthen Islamic fundamentalism in the country.

Wow, Ahmadinejad sounds just like the Republican wingnuts doesn’t he? Getting rid of ‘liberal and secular university teachers’ so we can return to fundamentalist values seems to be a popular dream among fascists on both sides of the big pond ! ! !

By getalife

September 7, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this

Great toon Mike.

The wingnuts do not care about catching him but real Americans do want justice.

Yesterday, w decided to play politics with the war on terror showing that it is all bs.

Pot to kettle torture will end according to the Pentagon.

By w00t

September 7, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

Holy Sh!t. I can’t believe this. OSAMA WAS THE PROBLEM BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER 9/11! It wasn’t until we invaded Iraq that this became a problem beyond what we could handle. I was all for going to Afghanistan and killing the Taliban off and finding Osama and his crew. I backed it 100%. While we had a good run there, we never had really enough troops to finish off the job. They have been asking for more troops in Afghanistan for some time now, and they have never gotten it. Now we’re seeing resurgent of the Taliban in certain areas. Not supporting our troops is not giving them the support they need and ask for to make sure the job was done right in Afghanistan. Bush then pulled more out to take on Iraq.

Now you guys are just going to sit back and say, “oh, Osama he’s just not that big of a deal anymore, Iraq is the real problem now.” Well, no kidding that Iraq is a big problem now. It’s a problem because we went in there because and created a vacuum and now every Tom, Dick, and Harry are fighting for control and power in the country. This is something that is never going to end. The US just can’t roll up and expect the Kurds, Shiites and, Sunnis to stop fighting that they’ve been doing for hundreds of years. Each group has their own set of religious values and rules that aren’t compatible with the other. That’s why they call it a civil war. Not only that but they don’t want us there. Bush and his Administration never thought of this, they never saw the blow back from removing the government in Iraq. All they saw was, hey we can remove this real bad “evil-doer” and we’ll save the world. “Mission Accomplished” the huge banner proclaimed. How can you say something like that, and we’ve had over 2500 death since “Mission Accomplished”. What kind of accomplishment is that? That we’ve gotten no where and 2500+ of our troops were killed?

The fact is, we let Bin Laden get away. I think that if you cut the head from the snake it will be a big moral blow to the terrorist. It might actually show them that we don’t give up on what we set out to do and that we won’t let our families of 9/11 down. We won’t send our troops off to die indiscriminately in a false war, but instead we’ll go off and fight directly against a group responsible for extinguishing the lives of nearly 3000 Americans on the morning of September 11, 2001. That’s true support.

By Cindy

September 7, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

Yes, Mike a great cartoon again! But the President did say Osama wasn’t important but that was after he said he was the number one enemy. So we don’t really know what he wants. He did cut and run in Afghanistan.

By @@

September 7, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

It must really be frustrating for the coalition troops to know why they’re fighting while the folks at home can’t find value in their commitment.

”The Afghan people need us. Try to imagine what this country would be like if it went back to Taliban rule, where no children went to school, where women were marginalized, where brutal executions and decapitations and hands and everything going off. Try to picture what would happen if we NATO let the Taliban take over?” O’Connor said. ”I think Canadians understand that we have a role in the world to try and help others and we’re doing our bit right now in Afghanistan.”

O’Connor also dismissed calls by NDP Leader Jack Layton and others to withdraw the Canadian troops from Afghanistan. The government has committed Canadian troops to the NATO mission in Afghanistan until February 2009.

But hey, let the liberals keep sending the message that they’re wasting their time. They fight to protect that right as well.

Ungrateful citizens?

By gadem

September 7, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this

I make it a habit not to watch Bush speak…

By Cindy

September 7, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

Wow, Ahmadinejad’s Values; sounds like the necons and Iranian hardliners are playing from the same sheet of music.

By Republican 'Robust' Economy

September 7, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. stock futures pointed to a lower market open on Thursday on persistent concerns over global inflation and further signs of a deterioration of the U.S. housing market from several home builders.

Stocks fell on Wednesday, with the Nasdaq posting its sharpest drop in seven weeks, as investors dumped shares on the fear that data showing rising wage inflation may force the Federal Reserve to lift interest rates again.

Republicans have pumped the economy with war bucks borrowed from communist China but sooner or later somebody has to pay the bill. Then the bubble pops ! ! !

By @@

September 7, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

Decisive action?

“In the relatively near future, certainly before the winter, we will see this decisive moment in the region turn in favour of the troops that represent the government,” Jones said.

The definition of that term escapes the liberal mind.

By gadem

September 7, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

@@, no one is disputing the validity if Afghanistan, but we are disputing the reasons as to why we are in Iraq…so stop with the BS.

By RW-(the original)

September 7, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

wOOt,

The mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, was transferred to Gitmo to stand trial yesterday. Do you have any forward looking arguments or are you just going to whine like a school girl that scraped her knee the rest of the day?

By RW-(the original)

September 7, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

@@,

Looks like you touched a nerve with our resident “moderate,” gadem.

The Russians tried overwhelming human force structures in Afghanistan. They sent them home in body bags by the thousands. Since the libs already know this you have to ask yourself if that isn’t what they really want for us.

Freaking troop hating losers.

By Scooter

September 7, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

We went into Iraq to remove Saddam and his sons from power… mission accomplished. Now we are attempting to fill the resulting vacuum with a representative government that will set an example for the larger Middle-East. Were you libs present for the 90’s and the shenanigans Saddam pulled on the UN?

By Cindy

September 7, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

@@, You need to pay attention. Most liberals, except those who are strict pacifists (and we do respect their opinion even if we don’t agree with them), supported the Afghanistan invasion. We cheered Bush on, but he betrayed the Afghanis and the American people. The Afghan plan was near ingenious; to use the Iraqi warlords already in place as the main fighting force on the ground and the support of nearly every country of the world. Sadly, we dropped the ball there.

Nobody in the U.S wants to see Afghan revert to Taliban days. Nor do we want to see Iraq go in that direction by buying in with Iran.

The mideast is brutal; you can’t walk in and get everyone to wave a flag of democracy; religion comes before country for them. As w00t tries to say; that mindset has to change. Why do you think successful leaders there are so harsh (the Shah; Sadaam)? They have to be cruel to force peace because of the Muslim infighting and hatred of secularity.

So our best fight against the terrorists is to destroy their camps and meeting places; to destroy their power bases and capture their leaders with the support of Muslim leaders; and work with these leaders to accept and spread the concept of living in a peaceful secular society. Invading a country and creating an environment of chaos and death is not the answer.

This situation is so far removed from the Cold War; the Soviet philosophy was near opposite of the Muslims. If you don’t properly understand the enemy, you have lost a major tool in fighting them.

By Dusty

September 7, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

gadem,

“No one is disputing the validity of Ahghanistan” you posted, yet Woot has just said that we Americans have left the Afghans “out to dry”. You call that truthful support of our troops when some are still there fighting?

@@ is absolutely right. Our troops cannot feel support from their own when they read comments like those posted by liberals on this blog.

By N-GA

September 7, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

RW…the only hater of US troops is you (and your alter ego, Lying Andy - The Bed Wetter). You keep sending those troops back to the middle east for multiple combat tours. Meanwhile, AMERICA wants to know: Where’s Osama?

I like to think that ML got his inspiration for this toon from this blog.

You are the real loser…get used to it…you will feel it even more this November when we begin to take back the country and once again make this a government of the People, by the People, and for the people.

You’ll be missed!

By getalife

September 7, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

Pakistan granted OBL amnesty yesterday, so there will be no justice for OBL and the rest of his crew.

At least w flipped flopped again and is starting to talk about him to scare the coward facists.

By RW-(the original)

September 7, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

A bombing campaign the loser libs can get behind.

Nice tribute guys, to hell with the facts just cover Clinton’s a-ss.

By w00t

September 7, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

RW, I wasn’t whining. Please try again, thanks.

If anyone on here is whining, then it’s dusty. “ooooohhh, they’re not supporting our trooooops, cause they’re saying mean things about Bush, and not getting the job done!!”

By Cindy

September 7, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

Dusty, YOU ARE WRONG. There are troops fighting overseas who do understand and accept my philosophy and they don’t feel that I am not supporting them. Would you like to write them so they can explain this to you or would you just consider them nonpatriotic because they believe in doing their jobs even if they don’t buy into the political agenda? We are still a military family. My husband does not believe I don’t support him because I think the Iraqi war was deceitful and ill planned. I prefer to take the word of the troops over your misinformed input. There are troops who feel the same way. My best friend’s daughter was in Iraq and she still doesn’t want to talk about her experiences there and her wishes are respected.

By RW-(the original)

September 7, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

So if you get elected I lose my rights to speak? Nice freedom for the people you are promoting. If at all possible try to say that as often and as loudly as possible before the elections.

Freaking goat boy idiot..

By the way, did you ever even figure out how to vote in Georgia?

By RW-(the original)

September 7, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

wOOt,

That’s the best forward looking plan you have? Typical.

By Lord Help Us

September 7, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

Man, RS-(Crispy) has his little pink panties all wadded up this am…

Face it…Your increasingly illogical obfuscation and rationalization of this administrations’ failures only serve to illustrate that which is so obvious to the free-thinkers in this country.

W is a failure, his supporters are blind and even you (yes, YOU) will one day realize this fact.

It’s The Competence, STUPID!!!

By N-GA

September 7, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

RW (The Real Wanker)…So where did I say anything about your “rights to speak”. Also, I am not running for election, but I am voting.

Your post makes no sense whatsoever…your brain must have a cramp….a very small cramp.

By Lord Help Us

September 7, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, the only portion of the ‘War on Terror’ that is logical and enjoys the backing of the world is suffering from the fact that our attention is now buried in a costly, incompetent, ill-defined mission in Iraq.

Taliban militants are inflicting heavy casualties on foreign forces there and captured a remote town from police for the second time in two months.

The incompetence of this Administration is frightening…

By @@

September 7, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

I’m addressing ml’s cartoon subject today. He ignores the fact that coalition forces in Afghanistan believe that they’re doing the right thing and that they’ll succeed. Osama is a part of it.

You liberals support something when it’s quick and easy, when the going gets tough, you have no backbone. No support to offer.

I can’t help you with that. I can maintain it for myself though.

Believe me when I say I am reading everything available on the war in the Middle East. The thought of letting Iran assume regional domination will be catastrophic for the world, not just America. For them it’s a waiting game and the radical left-wing liberals are willing to give it to him sooner than later.

Very dangerous….very, very dangerous.

You can cry all you want about what shoulda, coulda, woulda been, but the fact remains, pulling out now is not an option. Greater minds than ours have echoed that sentiment.

But then there is, of course, the pandering politicians who rely on “useful liberal tools” such as those I see here to support their policy of failure.

Where’s Osama? He’s in Afghanistan where the troops goal is to succeed.

By SSDD

September 7, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

(This’ll be a 2 part-er, I’m sure…)

Dusty -

Do you ever get the feeling, the sinking, sneaking suspicion that you could, just MAYBE, be oh so very wrong? Because you are. Let me explain. (By the way, I sure have missed you… really I have. Its people like you that make me thankful there are people like W00T out there that can consistently point out your deficiencies and that of YOUR administration. You’re pathetic and sad. Face the truth, little girl.)

From your post: “No one is disputing the validity of Afghanistan” you posted, yet W00T has just said that we Americans have left the Afghans “out to dry”. You call that truthful support of our troops when some are still there fighting?”

OK then! That’s not what many people read. Those of us that have the ability to think for ourselves read THAT as “the AMERICAN ADMINISTRATION (that’s BUSH, Dusty) has NOT sent the additional TROOPS that the soldiers already IN Afghanistan said A: they needed so desperately and B: cannot FIND Bin Laden without MORE SUPPORT and C: Afghanistan is now no different than BEFORE the invasion by the U.S. If the AMERICAN ADMINISTRATION does not send MORE HELP to capture the ONE MAN they THEMSELVES insisted began THIS WAR then NO! the “mission” is NOT “accomplished”.

By @@

September 7, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

Cindy/Ahmadinejad’s Republican Values:

It’s the right of all citizens to speak out against outrageous comments made by liberal academics like Ward Churchill, but…

Sorry, the First Amendment doesn’t protect a speaker from the repercussions of his or her speech; it only guarantees the initial right to speak. Opposition voices have their free speech rights, too.

There’s a difference between a leader ousting liberal academics and a country’s citizenry speaking out. You can vote for what you want, but you can’t shut up the opposition in America.

Too much of anything is bound to bring repurcussions.

Mr. Horowitz, nationally known author, lifelong civil rights activist and familiar guest on cable TV news channels, admits he helped give birth to the New Left and edited the very liberal Ramparts magazine before “he came to his senses.”

Now he is leading the charge to make college campuses free-speech zones for “everyone” — as rumor has it they had been a long, long time ago — instead of just for the little ward churchills and their lemmings.

I would hope that you see this as fair.

By SSDD

September 7, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

Part II: Still for you, Dusty!

Did I disparage the troops there in any way, shape, or form??? Go ahead! C&P the parts that scorned our armed forces! Dare ya. I said BUSH and his ADMINISTRATION (those are the suits that whisper in his ear DAY IN and DAY OUT) have FAILED the troops. THE ADMINISTRATION FAILED THE TROOPS!!! I feel AWFUL for the American soldier. I think its BS that they are in the Middle East. They should NOT be there. I don’t agree with this “War on Terror” AT ALL. Where did I say I disagree with the American Soldier there? “You aren’t supporting the war, then you aren’t supporting the SOLDIER”. That is the most asinine, immature, ludicrous, “playground rules”, load of crap I have heard since I was 5! Grow UP. This is NOT fantasy land. These are Americans LIVES in the balance. You sit there in your A/C with your SUV with the obligatory “Dubya!” stickers and your donation to all this is “I have a yellow ribbon magnet on my car!” Great. What about the 3000 TROOPS that are now gone? What do you say about their death? What about the thousands that are now home and are WOUNDED whether physically or mentally? What do you do for THEM? You sit there. And you write this drivel. You should be ashamed. WWJD? He’d get up off his arse and lend a hand. You support this “war” so much. ENLIST. Leave. Be a part of the grand “solution”. Or STFU already. We got it. You love the prez, you love every word that comes out of his mouth. You love the American Soldier… just not enough to actually DO anything for him/her! Right? What’d I miss?

By Lord Help Us

September 7, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

Holy Mackeral, I didn’t know PAT BUCHANAN was a pinko, commie, America/troop-hating, linguine-spined liberal:

The altarpiece of the Bush foreign policy is Iraq. American dead are at 2,600, the wounded at 18,000. Three hundred billion dollars has been plunged into the war. Yet Iraq is a bloodier, more dangerous place than it has been since the fall of Baghdad. One hundred are being killed every day, half of them in the capital. IED attacks on U.S. troops are at record levels – three and a half years after Baghdad fell. The Bush democracy campaign brought stunning electoral gains for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Hamas in Palestine, Hezbollah in Lebanon and Moqtada al-Sadr in Iraq. Our ally Hamid Kharzai is today little more than mayor of Kabul, as the Taliban roam the southeast and coalition casualties reach the highest levels since liberation five years ago. North Korea and Iran remain defiant on their nuclear programs. Vladimir Putin is befriending every regime at odds with Bush, from Tehran to Damascus to Caracas. Neocon meddling in the Bear’s backyard has gotten us bit. Bush’s trade policy has left us with annual deficits of $800 billion with the world and $200 billion with Beijing. Once the greatest creditor nation in history, we are now the greatest debtor. U.S. manufacturing has been hollowed out with thousands of plants closed and 3 million industrial jobs vanishing since Bush took office.

Man, it is amazing that a koolaid drinking wingnut like Pat Buchanan and I agree so wholeheartedly…

By bon scott

September 7, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this

By Cocoa Puffs - September 7, 2006 08:59 AM - President Bush (to Katie Couric) “My job is to link Iraq with the war on terror.”

Katie earned her pay by getting the moronic Bush to admit what sane Americans have known for years.

The Iraq war isn’t about retaliation against 9/11 plotters. Or WMDs. Or “spreading Democracy”. Or even “terrah”.

It’s about linking anti-American mass terror to a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 or any other terror attack against the US.

A colossal mistake costing $100s of billions and 1000s of American lives. What a dunce.

Where IS Osama??

By Dusty

September 7, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this

Cindy,

You know one person who fought in Iraq and you base your whole opinion on that? Well, I know two people who have been in Iraq ( one Marine and one Army) and they have opinions opposite to yours.

Have you forgotten human nature? You don’t tell someone they are failures, running away (cowards), mistaken, and ill-advised and expect them to feel appreciated. You are putting the military DOWN. Don’t fool yourself. That is exactly what you are doing and the troops know that.

Why don’t you and Lord Help Us cry on each others shoulders instead of trying to demoralize our efforts and troops fighting terrorism?

By Cindy

September 7, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

SSDD, They know we care about the troops. They know we love our country. This is the biggest defense they have; calling out our loyalty; it worked earlier in the administration, but too many people caught on. @@ of course I believe in free speech for all (even if I think it’s filty talking about “purifying the American race) contrary to US conservatives and Iran. Look at this blog: it is the conservative drive to stop only the liberals.

By getalife

September 7, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

Well, first it was the WMD’s. Then it was spreading democracy. Now it is so they will not follow us home.

The Iraqi army took control yesterday.

They stood up, we should stand down if you believe anything w says.

By getalife

September 7, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

Idiot Andy spews this mess:

“When we need him caught, that’s when you’ll see him caught.”

I think the family members of the 9/11 victims have waited long enough.

Freaking scumbag.

By Cindy

September 7, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

Dusty, I know a lot more than one, duh; you still can’t read. NO, I am not putting the troops down. You can tell your troop friends that I am and demoralize them, but most of the folks there are intelligent enough to know there is a definite and distinct difference between politics and troop support. I talk to military kids almost every day; and to me they are kids even though they are grown and in war. But when I look into their scrubbed youthful faces, they are kids to me. Do you see these troops as a war machine or the individual people they are?

By bon scott

September 7, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) - September 7, 2006 09:38 AM - The Russians tried overwhelming human force structures in Afghanistan. They sent them home in body bags by the thousands. Since the libs already know this you have to ask yourself if that isn’t what they really want for us. Freaking troop hating losers.

So by conducting a half as-sed campaign in Afghanistan, the US allows vast swaths of Afghanistan to remain in Taliban hands, where they happily support Osama and his network.

Why bother being there at all?

The Soviets lost because WW2 tactics just didn’t cut it 40+ years later. The US military is not the Soviet military. But unfortunately, Bush and Rumsfeld don’t have the balls to do more than maintain a stalemate.

Time for the US to either drop the hammer or come home.

By Lord Help Us

September 7, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

Dusty, et al…

Are you actually saying that (as good Americans) we should only praise and never criticize our Commander in Chief’s decision to go to war OR the execution of that war?

By Rosie Walker

September 7, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

No I am not saying that, please go ahead and criticize out Commander in Chief….

By Cocoa Crispees

September 7, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

What we have is Bush inventing a war in Iraq, and then trying to spin it to victory.

He’s trying to say that a war SHOULD have existed, so he went and done saw his duty and he done it!

It’s the great ideological struggle in his own mind: justify a war with an evolving, reactive spin and grift a grieving nation.

He belongs behind bars. I demand his resignation effective noon tommorrow. Ditto Cheney.

Let the Speaker run things for awhile.

By RW-(the original)

September 7, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

finch,

Instead of using multiple names and one thought why don’t you try reversing that. Can you idiots ever do anything that doesn’t involve hindsight?

By mike

September 7, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

Exactly how many American lives have been lost to terrorism since 9/11? Keep up the good work, W.

By Truthman

September 7, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

So, Rudy Guiliani and Newt Gingrich are the front-runners for the 2008 GOP nomination, eh?

I guess it’s OK to cheat on your spouse as long as you have an “R” before your name?

Such family values!!

61 days until we take back our country.

I smell neo-con fear!!

By w00t

September 7, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

PM Tony Blair is stepping down in less than a year!

“But the overriding issue has been his steadfast support for the war in Iraq and his close association with U.S. President George W. Bush, both of which are unpopular among the British public in general and his own party in particular.”

“The biggest single thing that has undermined Tony Blair’s credibility with the general public has been Iraq,” said pollster Peter Kellner. “His close relationship with George Bush is undoubtedly costing him support in Britain.”

Maybe Bush should do the same.

By Special K

September 7, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

Look, liberals, dont try to argue against the war just to use a winning logical tact. Start with the acknowledgement of a global war on terror.

Your premise in any argument should start with the fact that Bush knew nothing of he geo-political nor the theo-sociological situation in Iraq, apart from Saddam’s presumed complicity in 911.

Had Bush consulted the CIA, whose post WW2 hegemonic dictator-insertions effectively corked the 14 centuries-old civil war, he would have realized that until we could destroy the 911 conspirators, the Shia Militias and Sunni Revolutionaries were best kept under Saddam’s thumb.

Bush has blundered in the great war of the 21st century, and he thinks he can spin his way out of it. He cant.

He invented a front that didn’t exist, and now we have a four front war. To open another front like that and then try to fit it into the strategic plan that he also retrofits into the overall ideological conflict is a criminal use of circular logic, and reveals a frightening paradox: it no longer matters whether we cut and run now or stay fifty years because the shia/sunni toothpaste is out of the tube.

Complicating all this further is the Kurds, who hold the key to understanding the future of Iraq. Google the Kurds. Read for two minutes. You will know what’s dead ahead for Iraq, and why Bush has blundered so badly.

I demand that Bush/Cheney resign effective noon tomorrow. Let the speaker run things for awhile.

By Cheerios

September 7, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Dusty, what is the mission of US troops in Iraq today?

By Truthman

September 7, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

Well, I can’t tell you how many Americans have been lost to terrorism since 9-11, but I can tell you that Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice/Powell have killed nearly as many American soldiers (2,600+ and counting)in a useless war as Osama bin Laden did on 9-11.

Bush and OBL have another thing in common: They’re both still in office!!

By RW-(the original)

September 7, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

This place is crawling with cereal bloggers today.

By Cindy

September 7, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

I don’t understand the mentality of people who think that because Bush was in office for the 9/11 tragedy, he is the only one who can protect this country. That tragedy provided a base of fear for him to drive voters and nothing more. It is the sorry fact that he has used it for political gain. That alone speaks of the man’s character. Any president would have mobilized the government to capture these al-qaida folks and protect the citizens regardless of his or her name. What a poor excuse to support him. Grasping at straws.

By getalife

September 7, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this

RW,

You are losing it again.

finch is not here.

You must have them voices screaming in your head again.

Its okay, now that Blair is forced to resign, so will w, just like Nixon.

Karma.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 7, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

By w00sie September 7, 2006 08:14 AM Andy, whatever, if you were so concerned about the Deaths of September 11th, then you would and should be asking the question. It does the families of 9/11 a great injustice by not finding and capturing Osama.

By getalife September 7, 2006 10:55 AM Idiot Andy spews this mess: “When we need him caught, that’s when you’ll see him caught.”I think the family members of the 9/11 victims have waited long enough. Freaking scumbag.

We did catch the mastermind of 9/11 and the first thing you pervert pinkos did was sue the United States for violating his constitutional rights.

Now he eats better than you do with the U.S. Army waiting on him hand and foot.

Bin Laden is probably getting stretched out on the rack right now in Dick Cheney’s basement, why in the hell would we tell you libs about it?

You’d just go to work trying to set him free.

He’s good right where he’s at.

Safe from YOUR IDEA of “justice.”

We’ll let you see him right before the elections.

Hehehehehe.

By Cheerios

September 7, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this

Lets not try to make a worse villian out of Bush than he deserves. He seems sincere, and has convinced himself that spin alone wins wars as he has convinced the right thus far.

Instead let us remember that tyrants please themselves to appease piecemeal the pleasers who, unappeased, make peace piecemeal with preachers, in a piece-de-resistance appeasement by pleasing the Prince of Peace himself, IF I may be so piercingly precipitous.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 7, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

I see that the Fake Life, Real Wanker got free from his low paying menial service job long enough to post some more of his usual meaningless bullsh-it:

By N-GA September 7, 2006 09:50 AM RW…the only hater of US troops is you (and your alter ego, Lying Andy - The Bed Wetter). You keep sending those troops back to the middle east for multiple combat tours. Meanwhile, AMERICA wants to know: Where’s Osama?

I know you’re just as happy as you can be thinking that Osama Bin Laden is “kicking America’s a-ss” and that makes your slavish, sordid little existence worth living.

We’re all glad for ya.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 7, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

By gadem September 7, 2006 08:53 AM Andy keeps saying that we have not been attacked in five years, but since this invalid war in Iraq started, there have been more than 3000 killed…Andy I know your little neo-con brain can not process that…but these young men and women are actually dying for {{{{nothing}}}} also

1) Less people are dying than under Saddam.

2) Uday and Qusay are no longer rampaging the countryside in search of rape victims.

3) Abu Ghraib is no longer being used as a place to amputate tongues, cut off hands and feed people feet first into shredders.

4) The Kurdish people, after having been abandoned by the UN and Clinton, are now living free from terror, with virtually no casualties suffered since the invasion. Their marsh has been restored and the environmental damage has been halted.

5) The Al Qaeda and other assorted scumbag terrorists, BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION, are flocking to Iraq where they can be slaughtered by the Marines wholesale. (I know that saddens your heart to think of, but you asked.)

6) Iran is crossing the border and implicating themselves in regional violence and hegemony so that the evidence against them is overwhelming to justify the invasion of their country by the United States armed forces.

gadum calls this “nothing.”

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

Yikes, Cheerios. That’s all I’ve got to say. Yikes.

@@, Horowitz can try to take all the credit he wants for the “New Left”, that does not make it so. All he has given birth to is a big fat bank account by peddling comforting crap to right-wing lemmings with disposable income. And he is no more interested in “free speach” than he is in dining on $#it sandwiches. I’ve heard the man speak: he’s too smart to believe what he’s peddling, IMO, but he’s smart enough to know that it sells. Like Coulter, he slings intellectual snake oil.

By Dusty

September 7, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us, (dead)bon Scott, Cindy,SSDD,Cocoa Crispies and other lighter than air commentators:

First- I do not answer repetitious questions that have been answered over and over.

Second-I believe our troops in any part of the world can read and listen to reports from this country. They know when they are getting support. Liberals are not giving support.

Third-George Bush is our freely elected President and Commander-in-Chief. You are free to say that you do not agree with his administration and policies. You do not have a right to undermine this country. That seems to be the intent of fanatical liberals in this country.

Fourth-If Democrats do not stop their support of fanatical liberals, their party will be a deceased blot on the history of politics in our country. Playing “dirty” is unacceptable and Americans realize that very quickly. It is not a way to win hearts and minds.

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

Add Cheerios to the 12:04 recipients list.

By Boris

September 7, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

Trust me on this, it’s just that comrade rushncap is too dumb to know that Horowitz and Coulter are right.

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

Hahaha, go figure:

Pollster guilty of fake data conspiracy

Pollsters tell you what you want to hear so that you GIVE THEM MORE BUSINESS!

If a poll showed Bush ahead, do you really think the pinkos would use it?

Please.

Morons.

By Buy Danish

September 7, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

“Still, some Southern women remain stalwart supporters of the president and the Republican Party. At a watermelon festival in Chickamauga, in the mountains of northwest Georgia, substitute teacher Clydeen Tomanio said she remains committed to the party she’s called home for 43 years.”

Momma Aint’ Happy,

Isn’t that just like the AP/via Yahoo to find this woman^^ as the ONLY spokeswoman they can find who supports Bush, the subliminal message being that only ignorant hicks support him.

How foolish of you to fall for it. Ha Ha.

“The Afghan plan was near ingenious; to use the Iraqi warlords already in place as the main fighting force on the ground and the support of nearly every country of the world. Sadly, we dropped the ball there.”

Cindy,

Little miss bratty pants, I think you meant to say that we used the NORTHERN ALLIANCE not the IRAQI WARLORDS.

Bon Scott/Finch/Sybil,,,Cindy, WooT, et al,

The Russians were slaughtered because of the impossible terrain and because we supplied the Mujahadeen with shoulder powered missles that could shoot down their helicopters.

The terrain is what it is. The idea that we could send tens of thousands of our troops there and fight Bin Ladens’ forces and the Taliban there on unfamiliar and treacherous ground is not even realistic using your famous hindsight skills.

It is not unlike asking our soldiers to wage a ground war at the top of Mt. Everest against the Sherpas.

We might be willing to forgive your wrong-headedness on this one issue if you weren’t also opposed to The Patriot Act and NSA wiretaps of Bin Laden’s best buds, Et cetera.

Sounds like you just want us to lose.

By w00t

September 7, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

Andy, you call Iraq free of Terror? Wow, what are you smoking?

“less people are dying than under saddam”? So as long as only a couple of thousand are dying each month, doesn’t make it nearly as bas as Saddam. Because, hey, there is no terror, or civil war in Iraq. I guess they’re dying from Being so happy. Last I heard, 41,000 - 46,000 Iraqis had died since the start of the war. I guess that’s ok, its only the population of a town, or small city. Hey, at least we didn’t use “our own” chemical weapons on the Iraqis like Saddam did.

So, now its ok that our troops and the Iraqis can be slaughtered as long as Iraq remains a terrorist magnent. That way we fight them there and not here, right?

By @@

September 7, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

rusncap:

It was the free speech for “”“everyone”“” that I am in support of as well as the freedom to accept the “”“consequences”“” of their comments. Academics like Churchill are suffering those consequences. I’m all for it.

Having been a liberal, I too came to my senses like Horowitz. It’s that old “push/shove” reaction. The radical left-wing pushed too far in many respects, it’s time to push back to the center of reasoning.

Even a moderate conservative/liberal like myself doesn’t like seeing my efforts to compromise being abused.

The silent majority is alive and well. Silent no longer.

By w00t

September 7, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

BD, you’re a moron. The BEST MILITATY in the WROLD can’t go into some Mountainous region and kill some rag-heads? We have, planes, Satellites, tanks, GPS, smart bombs, cruses missiles, drones, etc and we can’t outsmart them? Are you saying that they’re better than us? That we can’t go into a mountainous region? You let 2600+ troops die in Iraq for no reason. Why can’t we risk that in Afghanistan? You’ve got to be kidding me. The army is taught Mountain warfare! I guess some country is going to have to give us some weapons to fight them then….

LAME EXCUSE WARNING, BD!

By SSDD

September 7, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

Yet another pearl of Dusty’s WISDOM… oh the ramblings of a confused and dim-witted member of the Bush-bots sounds off…….

“First- I do not answer repetitious questions that have been answered over and over.”

Uh, you didn’t say ANYTHING Dusty. And if you are such a died-in-the-wool defender, advocate, promoter and champion of the reasons WHY we are in the middle east, why Bush has troops there AT ALL, and WHY WE DON’T HAVE OSAMA, then yeah, I think you should repeat it AD NAUSEUM until it sinks into the “lighter than air commentators” heads (brilliant depiction of Liberals BTW… you amaze me everyday). So git to the defendin’!

“Second-I believe our troops in any part of the world can read and listen to reports from this country. They know when they are getting support. Liberals are not giving support.”

And I believe our troops are smart enough to differentiate (that means TELL THE DIFFERENCE) between thinking the ADMINISTRATION got us into a unsurpassed global QUAGMIRE, of epic proportions, that the U.S. is going to have to say for the next thousand years “I DIDN’T VOTE FOR HIM, HE WASN’T MY PREZ AND I DID NOT WANT THE U.S. IN YOUR BUSINESS! Mulligan! Please return to killing each other now. Sorry bout the mess!”

Lets move on to your 4th because # 3 says something about “freely elected”… ahem, again, I DIDN’T VOTE FOR HIM.

“Playing “dirty” is unacceptable”, eh? “Hello, pot! This is kettle! Howryadoin!?” Hannity? Rush? Who’s that pompous scumsucker? O’Reilly! Yeah. “Fair and balanced” my left … You people are pathetic. “Do as I SAY not as I DO!” squawwwwk! Squawk! You can’t read out playbook! HEY! Give that BACK! You aren’t allowed to throw my words right back in my face! Now squawk for me! DO IT!

By Cindy

September 7, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Correction Andy. The Bush abandonment of the Kurds caused the greatest massacre.

Dusty, We are enduring the poorist leadership this great country has ever seen; and that is what we are undermining. Just because you are blind to that fact doesn’t give you any credibility.

Give up on the troop excuse; you can never win that one. That ploy is dead. Those of us who are in contact know that some less enlightened troops might feel unsupported, but most have lived in this country long enough to understand and many others don’t even care what you say. Besides, you have no idea of the kind of support I provide our fighting troops; you don’t know; you are not an authority and I can prove that your statement is a bald face lie (sorry, you can’t pull off Bush’s tactics).

Liberals do not have a corner on the playing dirty market.

Bush was freely elected by lying to the American public and does not deserve any more respect than Clinton got for lying.

I can say that when the Democratic party dies, so will the freedoms of this country. So don’t cheer it on too soon or you will be sorrier than you know.

By Buy Danish

September 7, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

Republican ‘Robust’ Economy,

I watched a PBS “American Experience” series last nite on the World Trade Center which poigniantly described its history from its original concept - it’s complex engineering, the years and years it took to build it, the sluggish growth during disastrous economic times in NYC, through the eventual economic Renaissance for the city - to it’s final horrible destruction at the hands of Islamofascists.

Contrary to your whiny, pessimistic view, what I find amazing, and a heartening tribute to the resililience and ingenuity of the American people, is how far we have come in the 5 years since that terrible day that devastated our hearts and our economy. President Bush’s leadership helped guide us to this positive renewal.

People like you, who obstruct every attempt to achieve economic growth and then turn around and forecast disaster in every daily event, are exactly who Spiro Agnew referred to when he spoke of “nattering nabobs of negativity”.

Some things never change.

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

By Cindy September 7, 2006 12:41 PM Correction Andy. The Bush abandonment of the Kurds caused the greatest massacre.

Oh, yea, Cindy, that makes all the dam-n difference in the world, don’t it? It gives your robutt, pinko a-ss a chance to bash another Bush, that’s what it and life is all about, ain’t it?

Those icky Iraqi people are just pawns and playthings in your little liberal world, aren’t they?

What the hell matter does it make whether Bush or Snow White abandoned them?

By w00t

September 7, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

Andy only cares about blood shed and the deaths of Muslims.

ANDY = HYPOCRITE A*******H0L3 WARMONGER

By Buy Danish

September 7, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

By w00t September 7, 2006 12:33 PM

“BD, you’re a moron. The BEST MILITATY in the WROLD can’t go into some Mountainous region and kill some rag-heads?”

Woot,

My my, you liberals really are something aren’t you! Sheesh.

Freaking pathetic.

Cindy,

You are correct that we abandoned the Kurds. The person who was most responsible for us leaving the first Gulf War unfinished is none other than everybody’s favorite moderate - Colin Powell.

You see we were doing such a great job of destroying the Republican Guard that it started to “look bad” in his estimation.

Never let Political Correctness play a part in warfare.

@@,

David Horowitz is my hero. If you haven’t yet, read “Radical Son” - which should be required reading for our wide-eyed youth.

Gotta run folks - later maybe.

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

By w00rmy September 7, 2006 12:26 PM Andy, you call Iraq free of Terror? Wow, what are you smoking?

What’s up, man? Can’t read?

I said, we’ll go s-l-o-w this time, that LESS people are getting killed than under Saddam and that the Kurds have suffered VIRTUALLY NO CASUALTIES.

If you’d like to show me where I’m wrong instead of just shooting your ignorant mouth off, I’d love to see it.

By Nomad

September 7, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

Well said Dusty.

By SSDD

September 7, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

From “The Declaration of Independence”… it’s a little piece of U.S. history the Bush-Bots seem to have never read… the most germane section I have extracted below for your review. See how it pertains to today’s discussion:

“Prudence indeed, will dictate, that Governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shown, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security.”

Do we need to CHANGE OUR WAYS? Meh. Worked for 200+ years hasn’t it? Hasn’t it? Do we need to remove a despot… yeah. Time’s come. Tony Blair is waving the white flag. “Gee Golly Dub” should follow suit. You’ve failed America. You’ve failed History… hahahaha… failed History. Like it’s a course! Cause that was probably true! Ok, nm. Onward. We CANNOT be a free peoples if we are under the rule of such a tyrant. So many citizens (hello, polls?) have said they are NOT satisfied with THIS administration. They want the ADMINISTRATION to acknowledge their concerns and DO SOMETHING. Nil is done. Nothing has changed. Why are we “staying the course” if the CITIZENRY wants the “course” to change?! “Because we stand behind the president!” Grrrreat. Is that what you plan on telling your grandchildren? We “stood behind him and watched America dissipate. Sorry. Mulligan. Ya’ll should really plan better this time!”

This is OUR TIME. I plan on getting it right. Not watching some fool and his cronies destroy what Jefferson fought so hard to achieve. At one time, we were the greatest nation on the planet. ONCE. Not anymore. Now we just seem like short-sighted, war mongering, roman-empire-following, tyranny of mindless robots! What really chaps my arse is that from this point on, history will say it was “America” that got us into this. NO. IT. WASN’T. It was the Repugnicans and their reckless “leader”. The rest of us actually paid attention in school. History taught us to behave in the World Arena. Not show our a$$ at every turn!

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this

By Saddam’s own admission:

More than 1.8 million Iraqis died since 1990 because of the embargo Iraq, Politics, 1/18/1999

This is while “Oil for Food” was building thirty presidential palaces and making the French and Russians into billionaires, so yes, blame the “embargo.”

And this from Human Rights Watch:

“We’ve already discovered just so far the remains of 400,000 people in mass graves,” said British Prime Minister Tony Blair on November 20 in London. The United Nations, the U.S. State Department, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch (HRW) all estimate that Saddam Hussein’s regime murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people. “Human Rights Watch estimates that as many as 290,000 Iraqis have been ‘disappeared’ by the Iraqi government over the past two decades,” said the group in a statement in May. “Many of these ‘disappeared’ are those whose remains are now being unearthed in mass graves all over Iraq.”

So stupid a-ss woot, only having 42,000 dead resulting in a fight for their freedom is a freaking IMPROVEMENT.

It ain’t perfect but how in the hell can you be against it?

By Truthman

September 7, 2006 01:13 PM | Link to this

OK, a little English lesson:

Fascist - Noun: A political, philosophy, movement or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized, autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe ecomonic and social regimentation and forcible suppression of opposition.

That is part and parcel of the current regime, more aptly termed the Christo-fascists: King Chimp rules while Big Business writes the laws to ruin our planet and destroy the middle class.

What we are fighting is radical Islam.

Please make a note of it.

By Another Republican Hero

September 7, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, September 7, 2006 12:52 PM - Spiro Agnew referred to when he spoke of “nattering nabobs of negativity”.

Spiro Theodore Agnew (November 9, 1918 – September 17, 1996), born Spiros Anagnostopoulos in Towson, Maryland, was the thirty-ninth Vice President of the United States, serving from 1969 to 1973 under President Richard M. Nixon. He is the highest-ranking Greek-American citizen to have held political office in the United States.

He is most famous for his resignation in 1973 following evidence of tax evasion.

Agnew had hoped to be the Republican Party’s presidential nominee in the 1976 election, before the Watergate scandal broke out. Privately, Agnew blamed Nixon for releasing the accusations of bribes and tax evasion in order to divert attention from the growing Watergate scandal that was engulfing Nixon’s administration.

In 1980, Agnew published a memoir in which he implied that Nixon and Alexander Haig had planned to assassinate him if he refused to resign the Vice-Presidency, and that Haig told him “to go quietly … or else.” Agnew also wrote a novel, The Canfield Decision, about a vice president who was “destroyed by his own ambition.”

Republicans do love their CRIMINALS don’t they? Buy ‘Anything but American’ must use Spiro T. as an example to teach her children more of those Republican Family Values. Agnew is just another example of Republicans eating their own when they get caught doing what is ‘natural’ for them…..oh yeh, they always LIE about that too ! ! !

By Another Republican Hero

September 7, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this

Criminals really hate it when those “nattering nabobs of negativity” bring them to justice ! ! !

By Truthman

September 7, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this

The reason we’re against it is because there is no connection between 9-11 and Iraq!

The WORLD was better off with Saddam in charge of Iraq!!

That’s it!! The alpha and omega!!!

How can YOU not see it!?!

By Cindy

September 7, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this

When was Colin Powell Commander in Chief?

By A 'Civilized' Republican World

September 7, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this

NORWICH (Reuters) - The earliest civilizations were not a product of favorable conditions but rather a last resort in the face of dramatic shifts in the weather, a climate scientist said on Thursday.

Heck, we thought that the ‘environmental destruction’ party was trying to destroy the world for future generations and they are really just trying to create a more ‘civilized’ world. Sorry Republicans, we just didn’t understand your methodology.

By Cindy

September 7, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

290,000 dead Iraqis under Sadaam over 2 decades. 42,000 dead under Bush over 3 years. Hmmm, it’s not over yet….another 17 years, another 252,000 dead. And how many more will be American troops?

By Crispix

September 7, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

Bush belongs behind bars!!

Dusty needs to read more, and then she’ll get read.

I would suggest starting with some quantum physics.

By w00t

September 7, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

I think SSDD just schooled you all. Have a nice day!

By The Republican Big Tent

September 7, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

The Nation — September was supposed to be “security month” for Republicans. On Congress’s second day back in session, that effort is already falling apart on Capitol Hill.

“GOP Senators Differ with President on Military Trials,” the Washington Post reported today on page A3. Next page over is another headline: “Republican Rift Over Wiretapping Widens.”

Two articles about Republican division and nary a Democrat in sight!

And the New York Times reports today that GOP candidates from Washington to Connecticut to Virginia to New Jersey are calling for Donald Rumsfeld to step down as defense secretary.

If security is still a winning issue for Republicans, why are GOP candidates in tight election races across the country distancing themselves from President Bush?

The idea of Republicans speaking with ‘one voice’ is nearly as big a LIE as WMD’s in Iraq ! ! !

By Cindy

September 7, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

No, Andy. It wasn’t a Bush bash, but when using the death of Kurds as a conservative defense, you can’t run with part of the truth. Geez, all you conservatives bloggers are really all alike with your lies and half truths.

By w00t

September 7, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Why Cindy, thats 14,500 dead per year (for 20 years) under Saddams rule, and 13,600 - 15,300 per year (3 years) under Bush’s rule.

Things that make you go, “hmmmm”.

I guess we are better…. at killing people.

By More Republican LIES

September 7, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

First- BAGHDAD, Iraq - Coalition forces handed over control of Iraq’s armed forces command to the government Thursday, a move that U.S. officials have hailed as a crucial milestone on the country’s difficult road to independence.

Then- WASHINGTON - The number of U.S. troops in Iraq rose to 145,000 this week, the highest since December and 15,000 more than a month ago.

Yeh, the Iraqis are ‘standing up’ and we’re ‘standing down’ aren’t we ? ? ? Anybody want to hear anymore Republican fairy tales ? ? ?

By Goldie

September 7, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

Well, now we find out that Bin Laden is being protected by the Pakistani government, and they’ve granted him amnesty from being captured as long as he “lives a peaceful life.” What a slap in the face this must be for poor ole Dubya, after he stood in Pakistan alongside their president 6 months ago and announced to the world that Pakistan is “an ally in the War on Terrrr”… and of course, Dubya changes his mind from one day to the next— from “wanted dead or alive” to “I don’t know where he is… I just don’t spend that much time thinking about bin Laden.” And then 2 days ago, Dubya was quoting bin Laden again in his photo-op speeches, doing his best to give those uneducated Repugnants the heeby-geebies, and getting them all fired up for MORE WAR, which is his only answer for solving world problems… “stay the course, even if I’m taking you over a cliff!”

We’ve got to make drastic changes in Congress this November to restore America to some sanity once again!

By Republicans Leave Hungry Kids Behind

September 7, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this

NEW YORK (Reuters) - One quarter of New York City’s 1.9 million children live in poverty — 50 percent higher than the United States average — and many of these children are overweight, a food supply group said on Tuesday.

King George’s ‘no child left behind’ appears to be leaving a lot of children behind and HUNGRY ! ! !

My rule of thumb is that whenever you see a Republican open its’ mouth, be prepared to hear a pack of LIES. If you get that close though be sure you keep both hands on your wallet so the Republicans don’t PATRIOTIZE all your cash to pay for all their BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT ! ! !

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this

@@, you got older and conservative. That’s natural. Liberals are people with hope for the future, who do not pine for the “good old days”, instead trying to make “good new days”.

Horowitz is a putz. Or, rather, his public persona is, I don’t know if that’s what he’s like in real life. He’s just a disgruntled idiot who is pi$$ed because he did not get a professorship due to his lack of ability or sufficient intelligence. So, since the public in general would not take him seriously, he found a niche that takes anyone who parrots the same dim line seriously. And he’s gotten rich off of that. He’s reached the American dream: wealth through being a con man.

By Huge

September 7, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

“The idea of Republicans speaking with ‘one voice’ is nearly as big a LIE as WMD’s in Iraq ! ! !”

One of my beefs with both political parties is this very idea, that to be a good party member, one has to march lock step with the ledership. It has turned congress into a bunch of impotent sycophants and sheep.

The only times I can recall gop reps and sens ‘stepping out of line” is just in time for elections. And how credible is that?

It’s past time that the two party duopoly is brought down. Up until about ten years ago, I considered myself a democrat. But for various reasons, not the least of which, was how shamefully they screwed Nader twice, I am now truly an independent. In my entire lifetime, voting gop has almost always been a distasteful proposition, but in any given race, I will do it, if I feel that it is warranted…

By Republican Paybacks

September 7, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - People taking Oxycontin, codeine and other powerful painkillers for chronic pain could get a 90-day supply, under a proposal Wednesday that would let patients avoid repeated doctor visits to get more than 30-day prescriptions.

This must be King George’s payback to Rush Limbaugh for services rendered ! ! !

By bon scott

September 7, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this

New proof that Andy just doesn’t have a clue!

By You’re Right, Where Is Osama? - September 7, 2006 12:04 PM - 4) The Kurdish people, after having been abandoned by the UN and Clinton, are now living free from terror, with virtually no casualties suffered since the invasion. Their marsh has been restored and the environmental damage has been halted.

You imbecile. The Kurds were quasi-independent through the 1990s because President Clinton maintained the “no-fly zone” imposed after the Gulf War. For them, the overthrow of Saddam changed little.

And there are no marshes in Kurdistan. There’s the Sh-iite Shatt al Arab, near Basra, hundreds of miles away… which is NOWHERE NEAR being restored.

If you can’t get basic geography and recent history straight, how can anyone else trust your “insight”?

Moran.

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

Huge, we will always have a “duopoly” in this country. The Constitution as written guarantees it with the winner-takes-all system of elections. And the 2 parties have no interest in amending the Constitution because that would effectively destroy them.

There are tradeoffs, to be sure. In the U.S. we have a duopoly, where you have a choice between only 2 parties, which is paltry. On the other side of the spectrum are countries like Italy, with dozens and dozens of parties, where having a stable government for a year and a half is cause for considerable celebration. That too is a very serious drawback, especially for a country as big, powerful and complex as the States. If you think Congress is paralyzed now…

By gadem

September 7, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

No one trust Andy…he gets his information from people like Coulter…personally I think he would do better talking to a rock.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 7, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this

Hi there fellow proud progressives!

Only 2 months to the mid-terms. Have you planned your Democratic Dinner Party for Nov. 7th yet? The champagne is in the basement fridge already…the menu is uncertain. The young ones suggested blue food…but I can’t go there. The twenty somethings wanted a Progressive Pub Crawl but dinner will not be “to Go”.

I have prepared my little gaggle of voters for any October surprise with a quick review of past election dirty tricks and they are all ready to stay the new course….Yard signs are being picked up and placed out front. Drivers are being lined up for the Grannies and Aunties. Babysitters are being made available. Boompa and the old coots are talking about digging out their service medals to wear that day.

Win or lose, this is the start of the re-awakening of the American people. I know you are as proud to be a part of it as I am.

So much time….so many fewer folks still on the dark side.

Peace and Victory in November.

PS: To the folks who will bash this post…. bugger off. I haven’t the time to engage in silliness. I’ve got some flyers to get out!

By @@

September 7, 2006 02:25 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

Don’t insult me twice within a two day span.

I’m not old nor was I old when I chose a more conservative view.

Surely, being a Darwinist you can comprehend the push/shove reaction. It’s the natural order brought on by liberal abuses of willing compromise. Your party should have dealt with it long ago. There have been unintended consequences resulting from their decisions. I choose the precautionary principle now when implementing new ideas. There is great value in looking to the past to see how things evolved and whether they served the greater good.

And of course you would call Horowitz a “putz”, you’re in academia. Push/shove….you’re no more evolved than I am.:)

Gotta go….and no….it’s not due to old age incontinence.

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

Saddam admitted to 1.8 million, so woosie and Cindy use Human Rights Watch pinko liberal number of 290,000.

And accuse me of spin.

Anybody want to count how many Iranians Saddam killed?

Now we’re up to 3.8 million.

Spin that pinko.

By Huge

September 7, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

You may well be right about always having a duopoly, but I will certainly never stop fighting against that. Primarily because it seems that our politicans, in way too many cases, put party, with all of its endless money and power, way before country.

Our American nature and some simple-mindedness, seems to have historically dictated only two real choices - Ford or GM, Coke or Pepsi, etc, etc…

I’m optimistic that intelligent people will start to change their opinion about this and see that really good viable cndidates who have no allegiance to the dems or gop can get elected AND fundamentally change the corrupt nature of politics, with its payoffs, PACs, lobbyists, et al. I can’t ever imagine a free-for-all in this country like the one you correctly describe in Italy. But a healthy third or fourth party will only strengthen this country, IMO and potentially scare these party apparatchiks into being more effective leaders…

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

Horowitz IS a putz. He has nothing of value to say, and he’s made a lot of money saying it. Of course you’d like him, “academia” (i.e. the centers of progress that have, for centuries, worked to improve our civilization) are an easy target: little people like Horowitz get to feel big and important by playing to similar ignoramuses the part of a David, taking on these “elitist” Goliaths. In reality he contributes nothing, he achieves nothing (and he knows it), but he makes a lot of noise while doing it.

I’m still not sure why you think conservatives are any more willing to compromise than liberals. That statement alone makes me doubt your whole “I converted for all the right reasons” story.

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

I guess nobody reads Queen YAHOOS! posts, truthfully this is my first one today, check this out for absolute mindlessness:

By Queen YAHOO! September 7, 2006 01:51 PM NEW YORK (Reuters) - One quarter of New York City’s 1.9 million children live in poverty — 50 percent higher than the United States average — {{{{{{and many of these children are overweight}}}}}}}, a food supply group said on Tuesday. King George’s ‘no child left behind’ appears to be leaving a lot of children behind and {{{{{{{HUNGRY ! ! !}}}}}}}

Overweight!!! and HUNGRY!!!

What a freakin whackjob.

We’re talking basic comprehension skills here, Queenie done failed.

What an idiot.

Just taking up space with absolutely zero to contribute.

Like all liberals.

By Truthman

September 7, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

From 1991-2003, how many Americans did Saddam kill?

Just answer that question!! That is why THE WORLD was better off with Saddam in power in Iraq.

By bon scott

September 7, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!! - September 7, 2006 02:34 PM - Saddam admitted to 1.8 million, so woosie and Cindy use Human Rights Watch pinko liberal number of 290,000 blah blah blah…

You just make stuff up, don’t you Andy? Like your stuff about the Kurds and their non-existent marshes. At least Coulter tries to tie facts in with her rants…

There is hope and help. Put down the glass, pick up the phone and call AA. Some of your brain damage may not be permanent.

Until then, I’ll pray for you.

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this

Bonnie:

Insert marsh Arabs.

Chemical massacre of the Kurds by the Iraqi regime

Blow me.

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

So the worst massacre by Saddam was 5,000 people? Well, our invasion’s casualties are at about 50,000 (and that’s the rather conservative number). So, by Andy’s logic, we 10 times better than Saddam, I bet.

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

rushncrap:

1) Who are you talking to?

2) Where did you come up with a 5000 number for being the “worse?”

3) Did you eat some roofies or snort some coke?

4)While we are on the subject, if we found a verifiable number of 400,000 in mass graves, how do you put something that has been run through a shredder into a mass grave?

Or something that has been dynamited to death?

5) Killing civilians is not a good description for “better.”

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

Not to mention the fact that the massacre occurred in 1988. Not only was this war a bit of a delayed reaction (by about 15 years) to the atrocity, but it seems that Ronnie Reagan (President at the time) did not mind this massacre much. Remember, back then Saddam was our friend, and what’s a little chemical massacre between friends? So Ronnie did not punish or rein in Saddam at all. George Bush (the one who was actually qualified to be President), who was elected later that year also did not seem particularly fazed by “Black Friday”, not doing anything to punish or rebuke Hussein once he took office in January of ‘89. No, we didn’t stop being friends with Saddam until he invaded Kuwait.

Oh, and let’s learn a little bit about the immedite aftermath of this attack, shall we, mmhmmm? Let’s look at the Wikipedia entry for the atrocity:

“Some debate existed, however, over the question of whether Iraq was really the responsible party. The U.S. State Department, in the immediate aftermath of the incident, instructed its diplomats to say that Iran was partly to blame.” And who instructed the State Dep’t to say that? Could it be the administration in charge, the Reagan one?

“The massacre at Halabja did not raise protests by the international community in March 1988. At the time, it was admitted that the civilians had been killed “collaterally” due to an error in handling the combat gas. Two years later, when the Iran-Iraq War was finished and the Western powers stopped supporting Saddam Hussein, the massacre of Halabja was attributed to the Iraqi government.” Geee, how convenient. Saddam was pretty much blemeless until we decided we don’t actually like him any more. While he was our friend, those 5,000 casualties were just a quirk of a friend, like Saddam coming over to our house and not using a coaster. These Republican pillars of moral uprightness (Reagan and Bush) were more than willing to forgive Iraq this and other massacres, as long as the 2 governments were “cool with each other”.

Hypocricy, ya think?

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

Bonnie: I provide links. You provide hot air.

You may not understand this but if you click on the blue text, the page that I reference will magically appear.

Maybe that’s why you are so stupid, you reckon?

By Dusty

September 7, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

Oh my,

I go to lunch and come back to find that……SSDD and Cindy are waiting for John Kerry to be sworn in as President of the USA.

SSDD posts that HE/She didn’t vote for Bush. Therefore……..

Cindy says our elected president got there by lying. ( And I thought it was by a majority.)

So there goes Bush’s authority. Bring on Kerry. These two have spoken. No more Bush. THAT settles THAT.

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

li’l andy: 1. People on this board 2. On your own damn link 3. Sorry to disappoint, but you won’t be taking advantage of me tonight 4. I deal with reality, not hypotheticals 5. The post was inteded for people who know what “sarcasm” is

By One_American

September 7, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

Hey, Mike Luckovich.

Draw us all a cartoon of someone splitting your lip and running your leg though it.

That would REALLY be funny!

But then, you’re not really a humorist, and really more of a politically motivated liberal p**-ant.

By getalife

September 7, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

Hey, a found a toon with Andy in it!

By Truthman

September 7, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

Hey BLMPH,

It’s “To whom are you talking?” not, ‘Who are yo talking to?”

Please use correct English. I don’t believe you are Hispanic!

By Goldie

September 7, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

The parents of slain journalist Danny Pearl have devoted their lives to improving Muslim-Jewish relations

Let the slamming of the Pearl family’s patriotism begin — how dare they attempt to interact with their “enemies” and try to find peaceful solutions to problems! We all know that the only American way to produce any results is WAR, right?

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

Well, I guess there’s no need for this, eh, rushncrap:

Saddam Hussein and six co-defendants will be put on trial in August for the 1980s campaign that killed an estimated 100,000 Kurds in northern Iraq. Evidence collected in Iraq by forensic experts is expected to be used in new cases against former leader Saddam Hussein. (Ali al-Saadi/Associated Press) Iraq’s High Tribunal said Tuesday the trial will begin on Aug. 21. The campaign referred to as Operation Anfal — after the Arabic word for “spoils of war” — was aimed at clearing the Kurdish population from near the Iranian border, where Saddam suspected local Kurdish militias had ties to Tehran. Entire villages were razed and their inhabitants either killed or displaced.

Tell all those people that rushncrap says their evidence is bogus and that Reagan did it.

Way I understand it.

And here I thought the socialists didn’t want America to be the world’s policeman.

They sure change their minds awful easy:

By rushncrap September 7, 2006 03:10 PM Not only was this war a bit of a delayed reaction (by about 15 years) to the atrocity, but it seems that Ronnie Reagan (President at the time) did not mind this massacre much.

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

Of course li’l andy can’t read. I never said that Hussein did not commit mass murder. I said that the 2 Republican administrations during which these massacres were committed did not mind them. And, of course, li’l andy does not mind them either, what does he care about a bunch of dead non-WASPS? But their corpses make for a tidy liberal-bashing tool, and when was li’l andy known to have qualms about using tragedy to try to further his own twisted little goals?

By w00t

September 7, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this

Andy, we allowed companies within America to sell cheimcal and bilogical weapons to Saddam.

Example:

“Ted Koppel of ABC Nightline however on June 9, 1992 reported: “It is becoming increasingly clear that George Bush Sr., operating largely behind the scenes throughout the 1980’s, initiated and supported much of the financing, intelligence, and military help that built Saddam’s Iraq into [an aggressive power]” And “Reagan/Bush administrations permitted — and frequently encouraged — the flow of money, agricultural credits, dual-use technology, chemicals, and weapons to Iraq.”

“the CIA began in 1984 secretly to give Iraq intelligence that Iraq uses to “calibrate” its mustard gas attacks on Iranian troops. In August, the CIA establishes a direct Washington-Baghdad intelligence link, and for 18 months, starting in early 1985, the CIA provided Iraq with “data from sensitive U.S. satellite reconnaissance photography…to assist Iraqi bombing raids.” The Post’s source said that this data was essential to Iraq’s war effort.

Like I’ve been saying, we’ve meddled in Middle East Politics, and it’s come back to bite us in the as-s.

He’s not saying Reagan did it, but he allowed for the supply of weapons.

Of course we thought Iraq had WMD’s, we had the receipts to prove it.

By Gulf Coaster

September 7, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this

rushncap, I’m curious why @@ would even bother with you. I’ve always enjoyed her posts. She’s the kind of person who can make a person look at things from a healthy view and add humor at the same time. She doesn’t namecall, doesn’t attack and I don’t think I’ve ever seen her call anybody a liar. She’s always willing to listen and discuss and I’ve watched her frustrate you with humor. She’s wasted on somebody like you but bless her, she keeps trying. It’s no wonder she doesn’t post much anymore.

@@ wouldn’t say this but I will. It’s you that’s the PUTZ.

@@, I didn’t forget you were female and rushncap enjoys insulting females so give it up, he’s a lost cause.

Back to posting my opinions at the other site. When you get tired of the rushncraps, come join us girl. You remember where I am I hope.

By bon scott

September 7, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this

If Andy had a clue, he’d know that the poor in developed natiions (like the US) are more likely to be overweight because of their diet.

They buy cheap food. Beans, rice, pasta, filling stuff that’s high in sugar and carbs, really REALLY filling but seriously lacking other nutrients, especially protein.

And did I mention it’s cheap??

So “Queen Yahoo’s” post is spot on, and Andy is babbling as usual.

And his hissyfit at Bonnie once again confuses the Kurds with the Marsh Arabs, who happen to be Sh-iite, and happen to be 100s of miles away from Kurdistan.

rushncap… it’s almost too easy, isn’t it? He might be a worthy adversary if he weren’t so stinkin’ drunk….

Naaaaaah…

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

Scott, I doubt he’d be a worthy adversary in any state.

Gulf Coaster, I’m terribly hurt. I’m not quite sure what the point of your post was, but keep at it. Although this concept of @@ “frustrating me” is intriguing. Not true, of course, but intriguing nontheless.

And yes, I will continue to call people who lie “liars”. Sorry. A fault of mine. And I will continue to call slime like Horowitz “putzes”, because they are.

By Buy Danish

September 7, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

Where’s Osama?

Breaking news. I just heard on 640 WGST that Al Jazeera has just released an old video of Bin Laden meeting with the 9/11 hijackers and one of the men previously held in a “secret CIA prison” now headed for Gitmo.

Maybe he’s dead like Bon Scott, except maybe he fell of a camel instead of a barstool?

I’ll try to get back to the rest of your moonbattery later.

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

By Truthman September 7, 2006 03:19 PM Hey BLMPH,It’s “To whom are you talking?” not, ‘Who are yo talking to?”Please use correct English. I don’t believe you are Hispanic!

Is your life that shallow and meaningless that you must worry over things like this?

Does correcting grammatical errors on a political blog somehow make you feel whole?

If so, could you at least use the right spelling of “you?”

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

By w00t September 7, 2006 03:41 PM Andy, we allowed companies within America to sell cheimcal and bilogical weapons to Saddam.

To kill Iranian soldiers, you moron, not civilians. Your link even says it.

It just goes to show the pure, unadultered genius of Ronald “God Rest His Soul” Reagan, he used weapons to kill our enemies, not US soldiers.

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

By bon scott September 7, 2006 03:48 PM And his hissyfit at Bonnie

Hey “genius,” you’re “Bonnie.”

Bon, get it?

And Queen YAHOO! is still ignorant about the hungry overweight people, plus you’ve thrown your hat in that ring.

You just called poor people too stupid to eat properly.

Way to go, duma-ss.

You little racist.

By getalife

September 7, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

Lets take a quiz.

We invaded and bombed babies for:

A) WMD threat. B) Spreading democracy. C) Oil.

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

Ah, so we supplied Iraq with chemical weapons to kill Iranian soldiers. In li’l andy’s “Big Book o’ NeoCon ‘Morals’ ” that’s OK. Nevermind that using chemical weapons on ANYONE, soldier or not is strictly forbidden by international conventions. Nevermind that not even the Nazi Germany used chemicals during WWII.

Not to mention that the obvious “genius” of Reagan trusted Saddam to use these forbidden weapons only in the “right” way (i.e. to kill by proxy the enemies of America) rather than in the “wrong” way (kill enemies of Saddam). What did Hussein do, pinky swear? Oh that genius. I mean, who ++wouldn’t++ believe a dictator?

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this

By rushncap September 7, 2006 04:35 PM Ah, so we supplied Iraq with chemical weapons to kill Iranian soldiers.

Look, you little feminist. What, all of a sudden, happened to containment and stabilising the region that you pinkos chant and preach every chance you get?

Are you now on board with the Bush doctrine of preemption?

We gave Iraq chemical weapons TECHNOLOGY, it says it right there^^^, for DEFENSIVE purposes against the Iranians.

We didn’t in any way shape or form, tell them to use the stuff OFFENSIVELY.

We should have invaded as soon as he broke that one promise, eh?

By godless sodomites

September 7, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this

Godless sodomites

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

Li’l andy, the Geneva Protocol does not allow for ANY use of chemical weapons, “defensive”, “offensive”, whatever. None. At all. Us supplying Iraq with the technology for chemical weapons both violates the Protocol, and implicates the government in the massacres committed by the regime. If you give a loaded pistol to a madman who is telling you he needs it to shoot someone, you’re party to that murder.

I did not say we should have invaded. I’m saying, and listen very carefully, li’l one, that we should not have GIVEN him chemical weapons. Got that, retardo?

By Collin

September 7, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

{{{If you give a loaded pistol to a madman who is telling you he needs it to shoot someone, you’re party to that murder.}}}

Which is exactly what we’ll be doing if we leave Iraq’s sunnis to Iran’s shiites not to mention the world’s oil.

Murderer?

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

By rushncrap September 7, 2006 04:55 PM Li’l andy, the Geneva Protocol does not allow for ANY use of chemical weapons, “defensive”, “offensive”, whatever.

rusncrap, idiot, in 1988 the United States had chemical weapons in it’s arsenal.

Geneva prevents the USE not the possesion.

By rushncrap September 7, 2006 03:30 PM \I never said that Hussein did not commit mass murder. I said that the 2 Republican administrations during which these massacres were committed did not mind them.

O.K. so if these two Republicans were supposed to “do” something but not invade, what exactly are you talking about?

Wet their pants like a liberal would?

Blow a gasket like a moonbat?

By getalife

September 7, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

Good for you Collin.

The correct answer is C) Oil.

By RW-(the original)

September 7, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

If Nazi Germany didn’t use chemicals what happened to the people in the gas chambers? Do you think Hitler sent instructions telling them to hold their breath until they died?

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

I said “chemical weapons”, not execution by chemicals. Otherwise lethal injections are against international law, right RW?

BTW, you’re OK with the fact that we’re basically the suppliers of Saddam’s version of Zyklon B? How quaint.

By Buy Danish

September 7, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

“The Kurds were quasi-independent through the 1990s because President Clinton maintained the “no-fly zone” imposed after the Gulf War. For them, the overthrow of Saddam changed little.”

Dead rock star,

President Clinton maintained the “no fly zone”? Bwa ha ha.

Where to begin. As far as I can tell he couldn’t even maintain his own fly zone as it spent most of its time unzipped, but I digress. What did he do? Ride shotgun with our Airforce? HA HA HA. Right.

It’s funny, but I seem to recall some advertising just a few weeks ago from the Kurds saying, “THANK YOU AMERICA”. If I am to follow the stoned logic of Bon Scott they must have been thanking CLINTON for maintaining the No-Fly Zone because they have nothing to thank George Bush about.

Freaking unbelieveable and YOU lecture Andy?

Andy,

Your 2:02 about all the starving fat kids is hilarious. It sounds like something from The Onion. Thanks.

RW,

I think rushnduncecap is a masochist.

Rushncap,

Why is David Horowitz a “putz”? Blew your Red Diaper Camp cover? Stopped ProFessor rushncap from teaching “Bush sucks” in Physics class? Maybe you should call him a “dirty rat” and stop beating around the bush as to why you hate him.

Whoever it was who wiki’d Spiro Agnew,

Try this: Webster Hubbell. What is he famous for? Oh yeah, I remember now: “I guess I’ll just have to roll over one more time”.

Nattering nabobs of negativity is WAY better. Ha Ha Ha.

Freaking idiots.

By N-GA

September 7, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this

Wow!! Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter) aka RW (the Real Wanker) posts a comment about wetting one’s pants. He should know since he pees his pants every night because he is dreaming about terrorists attacking him in his double-wide.

What a pathetic little fascist who obsesses about other fascists in the middle east. Of course, they are more devout and more committed to their cause than the Bed Wetter is to his. He just kicks back in his lounge chair drinking a PBR and conducts his battles from the safety of his own living room (wondering if the rent-to-own guys are going to come by to pick up his furniture).

By RW-(the original)

September 7, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this

rushcap,

You did NOT say chemical WEAPONS, you said chemicals. It’s right up ^^^ there at 4:35 for all to see, but since you are a braindead lib I’ll paste it here for you:

{{{{{Nevermind that not even the Nazi Germany used chemicals during WWII.}}}}}

See putz?

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

Danish, Whorowitz is, indeed, a media whore. He gets rewarded accordingly. Good for him: women who can’t do anything else become street prostitutes, men who can’t do anything else become media prostitutes (Ann Coulter being a notable exception). He’s managed to get himself mildly famous in the academic circles as a sideshow, but, other than that, he’s as irrelevant to this planet as you are. His legacy will be roughly equal to Carrot Top’s: we weren’t laughing ++with++ either…

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

RW, this is an argument you can go sit in a corner and have with yourself. I have been talking about chemical weapons the entire time, and the one place (out of about 6 or 7) where I shortened it you piped up. Congratulations. You get extra juice in your sippy cup tonight.

By Two Scoops

September 7, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this

Yes, he made a typo, RW, but you still did not prove that you yourself are not a total idiot. Posting all day long everyday makes you the lowest suck boy in the fleet.

Blew, navy blew, RW blew all that he can see…cause his sailor boy said lips ahoy, and blew the na-yavy…..sha la la la

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

By N-GA September 7, 2006 05:36 PM Wow!! Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter) aka RW (the Real Wanker) posts a comment about wetting one’s pants.

How was work today, “millionaire?” It looks like your menial low paying job let you off at the same time it does every day, 5 o’clock.

Tell us about World War 2, hero.

By Two Scoops

September 7, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this

Now, N-Ga, lets be fair, the wetness between the sheets in Andy’s bed is not always peepee, but some nights he has to count sheep to get to sleep and ends up having a wet dream, so come on, lets not make andy any more of a rinsewad than he is…we’re liberals: we’re fair.

By RW-(the original)

September 7, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it funny how rushncap or one his bu-ttboys always tries to say that all he does is make typos and isn’t really a dumba-ss? Kind of like saying that you are illiterate, but well schooled.

rushncap,

I would say packing a bunch of people into a room and gassing them before dumping them in mass graves would pretty much count as using chemicals as a weapon anyway. Why do you think it was justified?

By Buy Danish

September 7, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this

If anyone cares what a commie putz who calls himself “rushncap” thinks, this is why he hates David Horowitz

How do you say “You can’t handle the truth” in Russian?

Nyet Pravda?

By N-GA

September 7, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

I always enjoy it when Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter) aka RW (the Real Wanker) comments about my income or my “hero” status. He has run in fear from every wager I’ve made, yet like his CinC he continues to lie. That is why I always introduce him as “Lying” Andy. The funny thing is that every single poster on this blog has watched him run from my wagers, yet he has no shame because he posts anonymously. Then he signs off many of his posts with “blow me”. Draw your own conclusions about this pathetic pseudo-christian.

By bon scott

September 7, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!! - September 7, 2006 04:27 PM You just called poor people too stupid to eat properly. Way to go, duma-ss.

No, you stupid drunk. I said they were too POOR to eat properly. Learn how to read.

And blow me.

By bon scott

September 7, 2006 06:39 PM | Link to this

Hey Andy, you eunich! Clear yet on the difference between the Kurds and the Marsh Arabs? And how Clinton helped protect the Kurds??

Dumbas-s. Blow me.

By V

September 7, 2006 06:39 PM | Link to this

Where is Osama? Mr Clinton: Don’t care, do you monica? Mr Clark: I’ll tell you after he attacks Mr Bush: Running for his life

It took 8 years to get Eric Rudolf and he was here living in the hills. We will get Osama.

By rushncap

September 7, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

Danish, I don’t “hate” Horowitz. Nor do I hate Carrot Top, or prostitutes. I pity them. And, sometimes, make fun of them. He amuses me, in small doses.

And, no, that’s not how you say it.

RW, I’m sure you think you’re trying to make a point there somewhere. Maybe that extra juice will help. So far you’re failing.

By Midori

September 7, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

All Together Now!!

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 06:50 PM | Link to this

By N-GA September 7, 2006 06:33 PM I always enjoy it when Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter) aka RW (the Real Wanker) comments about my income or my “hero” status. He has run in fear from every wager I’ve made

Let’s try this for the millionth time.

First it was ask Wooten, second I got no more answers.

What wild goose chase do you have for me now, fake boy, call your mommy?

By bon scott

September 7, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

The organization founded by Osama bin Laden in the 1980s has morphed into small, localized cells and affiliated groups that do not necessarily take orders from the old leadership. But it is clear they are inspired, if not specifically directed, by bin Laden.

“It no longer matters if a particular attack was organized by bin Laden or simply inspired by him,” said Rifaat Sayed, an Egyptian expert on militants. “Bin Laden and al-Qaida will receive credit for the attack, and it will serve to motivate new recruits and inspire more attacks.”

Thank you George Bush. Your inaction and confusion is helping the Islamist terror recruitment drive beyond al Qaeda’s wildest dreams. You must be on his payroll.

Moran.

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 06:54 PM | Link to this

By bonnie scott September 7, 2006 06:38 PM No, you stupid drunk. I said they were too POOR to eat properly. Learn how to read.

Does this even make any sense?

Does one get the feeling that these wankers just wing it when they get caught in a lie?

Would anyone else like to agree with this metrosexual in that a gallon of Hagen Daz costs less than a box of Wheat Thins?

What a dil-do.

Bonnie is a racist.

By RW-(the original)

September 7, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

If you had a tiny fraction of the intelligence you think you have you would just answer the question and quit making yourself look even more foolish.

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!!

September 7, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

By bonnie scott September 7, 2006 06:39 PM Hey Andy, you eunich! Clear yet on the difference between the Kurds and the Marsh Arabs?

When did I say the “Kurdish” marshes?

I said “their” marshes^^^ look up yon way, you little feminist.

Do you libs realize that everything that is said gets archived? Like Clinton telling the defense department, “No, I didn’t say blow Bin Laden away, I was talking to this White House intern.” Now it’s on tape, ABC is fixin to hit play and all Bubba can do is hope it gets censored.

Does he have something to hide????

By bon scott

September 7, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this

By Bin Laden Makes Pinkos Happy!! - September 7, 2006 06:54 PM - Does one get the feeling that these wankers just wing it when they get caught in a lie? Would anyone else like to agree with this metrosexual in that a gallon of Hagen Daz costs less than a box of Wheat Thins? What a dil-do. Bonnie is a racist.

Son, fat drunk and stupid is NO way to go through life. You got caught in a lie and are too idiotic to admit it. Among other things, no one mentioned ice cream… until you. And Wheat Thins aren’t exactly health food, you dumbkopf.

You are dumb. An alcoholic.

And a racist.

Blow me.

By Midori

September 7, 2006 07:09 PM | Link to this

Bravo, Bon Scott!!

You completely rock!!!!

I’m still waiting for Andy to take up on N-Ga’s challenge so that I can see the wimp idiot completely beat down.

By @@

September 7, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

{{{“academia” (i.e. the centers of progress that have, for centuries, worked to improve our civilization) are an easy target}}}

Especially since this work having been done over centuries has NOT CHANGED THE NATURE OF MAN.

That ^^^ will be the reason why your enlightened (?) group of academics will NEVER BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE YOUR MUCH SOUGHT AFTER “UTOPIA”. THE TWO CAN’T EXIST WITHIN THE SAME VESSEL.

I know it’s a tough pill to swallow, but it beats CHOKING ON IT.

Gulf Coaster:

Thank you for the kind words. I’d love to visit, but I barely have time to post here.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 7, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

By bonnie scott September 7, 2006 07:01 Son, fat drunk and stupid is NO way to go through life. You got caught in a lie and are too idiotic to admit it. Among other things, no one mentioned ice cream… until you. And Wheat Thins aren’t exactly health food, you dumbkopf.

O.K. bonnie, I’ll step aside and let you tell us about all these high dollar health foods.

You little racist.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 7, 2006 07:42 PM | Link to this

You can’t get any closer to the truth than this:

And the agenda is simply astonishing. The mainstream press hates President Bush so much that it’s actually hoping we’ll fail in Iraq. After all, there’s an election a few weeks away, right? There are Democrats that need to be elected, a House and Senate that is within reach for the Dems. Why worry about national security when the political stakes are so high?-TownHall

By N-GA

September 7, 2006 07:42 PM | Link to this

Like I’ve said many times, you can easily recognize Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter) because he’s the one running down the street as fast as his chubby little legs can carry him sporting a yellow stripe down his back and wearing soaking wet Depends.

He is such a loser and a pseudo-christian to boot.

By hmmmm...

September 7, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this

If the poor have always eaten these cheap, high sugar, high carb, filling foods that finch says is all they can eat, why are they just starting to have a problem with obesity?

The soft bigotry that perpetuates the welfare state, brought to you by the “progressives” as always.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 7, 2006 08:29 PM | Link to this

By N-GA Wanker September 7, 2006 07:42 PM Like I’ve said many times, you can easily recognize Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter) because he’s the one running down the street as fast as his chubby little legs can carry him sporting a yellow stripe down his back and wearing soaking wet Depends.

WTF is this guy talking about? Does he not realize that this is a blog and that no one can “see” anyone else?

Or is this a description of his gaybait fantasy, his dream of a man who would urinate on him.

What a dam-n sick little weirdo.

By N-GA

September 7, 2006 08:54 PM | Link to this

Pathetic response Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter), you just don’t have what it takes…just a little worm who calls people names, but can’t back it up. And all of us laugh at you. And you can’t stand to look at yourself in the mirror each morning….even you find yourself lacking.

What a loser you are. Eventually your Depends will dry out…when you are sent to spend eternity in the hell of your own making.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

September 8, 2006 06:33 AM | Link to this

Alright, so N-GA’s gaybait fantasy it is:

By N-GA Fake Life, Real Wanker September 7, 2006 08:54 PM And you can’t stand to look at yourself in the mirror each morning….even you find yourself lacking.

First rushncrap, now N-GA Wanker, obsessing their gay selves in front of the mirror.

All of these libs are depraved.

Normal people don’t even think about things like that.

By N-GA

September 8, 2006 06:53 AM | Link to this

Lying Andy (the Bed Wetter),

While you are running from me, look back over your shoulder and watch us take the country back from your fascist brethren. It’s coming soon to a neighborhood near you.