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By w00t

August 31, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

Why are we in Iraq? What the Iraq war done for the United States? What has it done for the Iraqi people? What has it done for the stability in the Middle East? Please, I’d really like to know. Let forget about all this other “petty” debate and get down to the real stuff.

Oh, now I know, its everyone’s favorite new buzzword “islamofascisms®”“>http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/30/gop.fascism.ap/index.html)

Let’s not forget that the majority of Americans see no link between the war on terror and the war in Iraq.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

August 31, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

The column of the month:

Why did Fatah bother to make the video (Fox journalists “converting” to Islam?)Didn’t they realize conversion under duress means nothing? That no one, East or West, would take it at face value? They didn’t make it for face value. They made it to show the whole Muslim world, via satellite television, what wimps these Westerners are. That they’ll do anything at all to save their lives, that they don’t think twice about it. That is the substance of most Islamo-fascist propaganda: that the West consists of straw men, of men without chests, of men easily pushed over.-RealClearPolitics

Which is their mistake. Sure we have a lot of spineless terrorist appeasing metrosexuals, you can find a bunch of them right here on this blog, but the majority of Americans, the real men and women, are getting tired of Islamic Facism. You’ll find out what I mean soon enough.

Same article:

Jean-François Revel: “Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.”

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The same “news” paper that will take a sexual affair between two Church members and write a half page article about the Church and Christianity, has the audacity to object to the “war on Islamic fascism” label:

But Muslim groups have cried foul. Bush’s use of the phrase “contributes to a rising level of hostility to Islam and the American-Muslim community,” complained Parvez Ahmed, chairman of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.-AJC

Look at who the Atlanta Urinal speaks for. Against the truth.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

August 31, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

The side that the libs are on:

Al-Najdi, a religious man, instructs his readers in some possible ways to kill a Westerner, from choosing the victim right up to the stage of the actual killing. Before committing the murder, says Al-Najdi, “pray to Allah to guide you on the good path.” Having prayed to Allah, he then explains “the jihadist way of action and the security measures to be employed by the jihad fighter when he wants to kill a Westerner.”-WashingtonTimes

And from the NYSun:

The Shah is also attacked for his leniency in the enforcement of the Koran’s moral code. “We want,” according to Khomeini’s 1978 volume, “a ruler who would cut off the hand of his own son if he steals, and would flog and stone his near relative if he fornicates.”

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Rumsfeld caused great consternation in the land of the pinko:

These are very touchy pols. Leader Harry Reid went on to elaborate that the administration that Rumsfeld serves “is more interested in lashing out at its political enemies…than it is in winning the war on terror and in bringing an end to the war in Iraq.” But Rumsfeld never in his entire speech mentioned “political enemies.”-AmericanSpectator

Lashing out at political enemies is what Reid’s whole speech was. See what I mean about frisking the liberals first.

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This is why they hate us:

The myth of the democracy-hating Muslim is contradicted in poll after poll and more evidentially by the millions of Afghans, Palestinians, and Iraqis who voted in their countries’ recent democratic elections, despite very real threats of violence from terrorist/religious leaders like the late Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi. You may recall that it was his holiness the Rev. Zarqawi who warned that support for democracy was “the very essence of heresy.”-AmericanSpectator

Freedom.

By Republican Impeachment Proceedings

August 31, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist will probably be fined and have to make up for failing to do continuing medical education that Tennessee requires of doctors with active licenses.“>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060830/apongoco/fristmedical_license)

In a license renewal form filed with the board earlier this year, Frist certified he had met the state’s continuing education requirement — 40 hours over the previous two years.“>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060830/apongoco/fristmedical_license)

Let’s see, Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. Now that Bill Frist has been proven to have lied in certified documents submitted to the Tennessee Medical Board, we can surely expect Congressional Republicans to pursue impeachment against Frist as vigorously as they pursued impeachment against Clinton, right? Smart money says don’t hold your breathe. Neo-Republicans have even less principles than liberals ! ! !

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

August 31, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

Isn’t this beautiful?:

That is the substance of most Islamo-fascist propaganda: that the West consists of straw men, of men without chests, of men easily pushed over.-RealClearPolitics

Posted right below W00T whining like a great big baby.

By w00t August 31, 2006 08:03 AM Why are we in Iraq? What the Iraq war done for the United States? What has it done for the Iraqi people? What has it done for the stability in the Middle East?

Spoken like a true metrosexual.

Sure thing, sweetheart, hollering and wailing like a woman ought to make all of the bad things in the world just go away.

They will go away, no doubt about that, but not in the way that you hope or can even imagine. Unless, of course, you WANT these people to kill you.

By The Republican Pork-Barrel Never runs Dry

August 31, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

BROOKFIELD, Wis. - Republican gubernatorial candidate Mark Green must return $468,000 in campaign cash he had raised as a member of Congress, Wisconsin’s Election Board ruled Wednesday.

Republicans always lie and never want to play by the rules, do they?

By Bush is an Idiot

August 31, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

I’m so sick of the ‘damsels in distress’ and other ‘shiny objects’ which serve to distract us from the real issues. Like why are we still in Iraq, and if there was oil to be taken from Darfur - how quickly would we invade that region?

Thanks, Mike, for redirecting our attention.

By The writing on the wall

August 31, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

Kudos to Andy, the resident neocon basketcase for posting a link to the Wall Street Journal’s lead editorial today predicting DISASTER if (as expected) the Democratic Party regains control of the House.

What frothing at the mouth, rabid hysteria! What FUN reading!! They see defeat, and are already whining about it. With the election less than 10 weeks away, the writing is on the wall.

Ain’t Democracy grand?

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

WooT,

If you think that the term “Islamofascism” is the new “term of the month” then you are even more ignorant than even I thought possible.

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“I’m so sick of the ‘damsels in distress’ and other ‘shiny objects’ which serve to distract us from the real issues.

BIAI,

You mean like……..>Cindy Sheehan?

Freaking idiots.

By Pete

August 31, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this

Where is Colin Powell? He needs to admit that he knew he was lying to the world in the build up of the case for war.

That’s critical to start healing this country, and if Powell loves his country he will come clean.

Ditto Rice. She needs to admit that she knew rocket tubes were better suited as aluminum bats for the little league world series than enriching uranium.

Then all the conservative blogging talent on this board need to stick their heads in the toilet.

Sign, Sunnis For Swirlies.

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 08:57 AM | Link to this

Andy,

I have to disagree with the real clear politics column as being unfairly harsh. I don’t see the point of dying for these “people” - it serves no purpose.
Most of the journalists have now pulled out of Gaza, and Steve Centanni does not intend to return, although Olaf Wigg plans to. I frankly wish they would all pull out - they are nothing but propaganda tools for terrorist groups anyway, and that is their most effective weapon.

I do wish Centanni and Wigg would publicly rencounce their “conversion” now that they are free men, albeit in danger of being in the company of Salman Rushdie for the rest of their lives.

I do agree with this part:

{{“Jean-François Revel: “Democratic civilization is the first in history to blame itself because another power is trying to destroy it.”}}

And this is interesting -

{{“At the time Revel said this, the enemy power was Soviet Communism. The intellectuals, the smart journalists, the fashionable academics, the smug urbane of all descriptions, were hardly pro-Communist. They were more ironical than that, they were “anti-anti-Communist”. Today they are anti-anti-Islamo-fascist.”}}

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

RCONE,

Are YOU a damsel in distress? Sure sounds like it.

Pete,

What is critical to “healing this country” is to recognize the enemy, and uniting to win the war on every front. All you are doing is picking at scabs.

By Cindy

August 31, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this

You are so right w00t!. Why are we in Iraq? We have all this terrorism all over the world and we are in Iraq.

The very sad fact is that the U.S. invasion created a mess there; the worse mess on the earth. It does have to be addressed. To ignore it will mean a worse disaster, but what is the best way? Staying the course of encouraging the behavior there is NOT working. Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is Einstein’s theory of insanity; just what we are doing in Iraq.

The bush idiot opened this can of worms and can do nothing about it but talk. Whoever gets control of this country will have a lot of sh** to clean up from this very sorry administration. It will be like rebuilding New Orleans; first clean up on the debris, then start building. We have only moved further into death and destruction since bush took office; starting with 9/11!

By fascism

August 31, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

Fascism was spewed by Rumsfeld and he is spot on.

To stop the new and improved fascism by the God party, we the people have a civil duty to stop it. If the God party control the elections, our democracy is history.

The point is, do we want to be the generation of Americans who allowed fascism and the end of democracy in this country?

By Cheney's Closed Energy Meetings

August 31, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Hot and bothered by rising pump prices? Australian brothels are offering clients discounts based on their gas bills.

Now here’s an energy policy that Republicans can really cloister away in closed session.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

August 31, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

By Buy Danish August 31, 2006 08:57 AM Andy, I have to disagree with the real clear politics column as being unfairly harsh. I don’t see the point of dying for these “people” - it serves no purpose.

Danish: I understand your point but I feel as though it emboldens other Muslims in their jihad to enslave all of us in dhimmitude.

Think of Bin Laden being inspired by King Blow-Job hauling a-ss from Somolia in 1992 at the first sign of any blood.

According to what the great pinko cave dwelling hero said, and you have to call him a bald faced liar if you disagree, is that we could have prevented this whole deal if we would have just slaughtered the terrorists in Mogadishu. You know, showed a little manhood.

That’s what they want from us, is to be considered superior to us and to rule over us.

It’s a big boost for their morale when we just whimper before them like a scurrilous little bevy of w00ts.

Rush has a great monoloque along the same lines but I can’t remember where it’s at.

By Impeach Frist?

August 31, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

Moron at 8:18-Frist’s seat is up for election in two months and he ain’t running. You moonbats cried like the little wimpy brats you are for two weeks over the Senate taking ten minutes to vote on a flag burning amendment, but you want to take a few months of doing nothing but trying to oust a man that will be out of office anyway. If you want to go after him write to the Tennessee AG’s office, dipwad.

By Dusty

August 31, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

Well, I think Luckovich got it right in this cartoon. The news media dwells on the trivia rather than what is important.

Glad to see that Luckovich actually knew something was going on besides his anti-Bush campaign. Maybe he too decided that he was hurting his country. Nawwww!! That’s expecting a complete rehabilitation.

Andy’s quotation of Jean Francis Revel really got it right.”Democratic civilization is the first to blame itself because another power is trying to destoy it.”

Great quote. Danish mentioned it also. It is worth repeating.

By getalife

August 31, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

Fascism,

You are correct.

There is hope

It is amazing people in this country support a fascist dictator.

I thought it would never happen here but it has.

People like Dusty, Buy Danish, RW and Andy keep supporting this fascism in this country and I wonder if they are even smart enough to know this or just do not care as long as the Dems are not in power.

By @@

August 31, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

Wait a minute ml…Isn’t this a rerun? First it was the same reporter in Iraq addressing the Anna Nicole Smith story; then it was Brad & Angelina; now it’s Karr?

Didn’t you just get back from a two-week vacation recently?

We know the press is shallow already. When it’s not being shallow, the readers are having to wade through its’ BS to find the truth.

Why do you enjoy standing in your own BS ml?

Take another vacation, but bathe first…please.

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

rushncap,

If you are awake -

I will be gone for most of the day. I’m sorry that I had to run yesterday and couldn’t satisfy your tyrannical demands that I stick around to argue on YOUR schedule.

Here is something from the “NAMBLA Bulletin” (something that you claim is “pure fantasy”) - a letter that purports to be from a 12 year old boy who calls himself “Unicorn” and loves Che’Guevara just like a good little Communist. Maybe the ACLU asked him to stick that part in to help with their fund raising efforts?

I support NAMBLA because they have given me a chance to philosophize publicly by printing my column. NAMBLA gave me support after the arrest of my man-friend. They have made me comfortable in a gay atmosphere. They take criticism well and always rectify mistakes. NAMBLA does not lay low on the subject of youth emancipation. NAMBLA supports youth liberation and emancipation. NAMBLA is against the draft, circumcision and clitoridectomy, ageism and other positions pertaining to youth. Blah blah blah…

The ACLU does not have to defend this group, yet they CHOOSE to. In doing so they enable the exploitation and indoctrination of children (clearly this letter was not written by a 12 year old without considerable “help”), not to mention the UNSPEAKABLE acts that the ACLU defends their “right” to SPEAK about.

What else does the ACLU defend? In addition to being C.A.I.R.’s best friend, they file briefs for deranged Kansans who, beyond all conventions of civilized society, are protesting at soldiers’ funerals and interfering with the RIGHTS of bereaved citizens to grieve with dignity and grace.

Ironically, people like you and Goldilocks then get to turn around and claim that this mentally-ill cult represents the mainstream of conservative ideology.

Dusty,

Yep, the Left are also “anti-anti-child molestation and child pornography”^^.

Andy,

I don’t think getting out alive from a kidnapping is the same thing as cutting and running from Somalia.

Later…

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

August 31, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

Danish: You’re right, there is no videotape of the US army cutting and running from Somolia.

There is, however, a videotape, another in a long line of many, of Americans denouncing their Religion, denouncing their culture, bowing before Islam and that videotape is getting circulated among a bunch of impressionable young religious fanatics.

They live for things like that.

If the journalists would have nutted up and said, and don’t get me wrong I know full well that we are talking about elite liberals here, Fox News or not, that Jesus Christ Died for me on the Cross and so I shall die for Him, the terrorists would have stopped the filming and scampered away back to their ratholes.

Or they would have sawed their heads off.

But, either way, word would have gotten out that the Americans may not really be the weak, spineless, sex obsessed perverts that they think we are.

And maybe the next hostage, what ever unlucky soul that may be, might have been spared the same ordeal.

These people are practically begging us to show some balls and kill them.

Why we can’t see it is beyond me.

By w00t

August 31, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

WHY ARE WE IN IRAQ??? TELL ME! You guys seem to know the answer. Instead of the name calling and acting like a four year old, tell us why we are there.

Andy, would you send your own son or daughter to Iraq? Would you serve in Iraq?

I don’t think you guys can.

Andy would let his own family die if he had the choice.

By rushncap

August 31, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

Danish, get a grip. And quit whining. I demand nothing from you. Stay. Go. Whatever. Won’t affect me a speck. Please try to scale down your tremendous sense of self-importance.

You were claiming that NAMBLA bulletins were placed in schools. You lied. ACLU defends ANY group whose rights are being violated, no matter how repulsive. Why else do you think an organization full of Jews would choose to defend neo-Nazis? They have principals. Your principals are “if you don’t agree with me, you must be destroyed”. Thankfully there are people like them.

You’re a little person, who cannot stand even a speck of dissent. YOU are the reason we must have a Constitution. It is YOU we must protect citizens from. It is YOU the ACLU is needed to keep in check. And, thankfully, they do.

By CREEPS seeking missle

August 31, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

Man, you are a sick puppy. You say the FOX journalists freed in Gaza should have flaunted their Christianity. They would have been freed by befuddled captors, or they’d have “their heads chopped off.”

And you think this would be a good thing:

By You’re Right, Where Is Osama? - August 31, 2006 - But, either way, word would have gotten out that the Americans may not really be the weak, spineless, sex obsessed perverts that they think we are. And maybe the next hostage, what ever unlucky soul that may be, might have been spared the same ordeal. These people are practically begging us to show some balls and kill them. Why we can’t see it is beyond me.

So you’re reccommending potential suicide missions. By civilians. Volunteers, all.

What an idiotic idea. I guess you can’t see the irony in this.

By RE

August 31, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

Andy,

I love your idea for how to stand up to the terrorists. I think we should get a fund raiser together to send you off to bagdad right now to see if you can get kidnapped. Then when the video camera is running you can make your brave stand and defeat the terrorists all by yourself.

Anyone else up for sending Andy to bagdad to defeat the terrorists?

By w00t

August 31, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

This will be Bush’s third major speaking campaign aimed at bolstering support for the war in Iraq — which a CNN poll found last week to be at a new low. Though his latest effort starts less than three months before November’s congressional elections, Bush said his speeches won’t be “political.”

Yeah right, they’re struggling. They are trying their best to not get voted out this November because they know that it’s coming.

I can’t believe he sings the same song. I guess the third times the charm?

You’re not going to end this with bullets and the deaths of “terrorist”. You’re going to have to change the way they think of the United States and the Government’s policies on the Middle East. The bottom line is, we need to stop meddling in their affairs.

By Midori

August 31, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

RE,

Count me in.

and send his moron buddies with him.

By rushncap

August 31, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

I’ve been trying to get li’l andy to go to Iraq for a while. He obviously thinks it’s safer there than in the ATL (as he had stated multiple times before). I guess single-handedly bringing down the entirety of radical Islam would be a nice fringe benefit.

By getalife

August 31, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

Yes, RE.

Count me in.

By RE

August 31, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

Andy, good news. I found a flight for you to baghdad. It was pretty tough, not too many airlines will fly there, they are probably encouraging the terrorists with thier cowardly actions.

You will be leaving from JFK in New York 11:00 PM sunday 9/3, a layover in Ammon Jordan (sorry, couldn’t find a direct flight) and arriving at 10:30 AM on sunday, you cross the dateline so it is really more like 12 hours travel time I think.

Tell me if these dates work for you, getting a flight to JFK is easy from ATL.

Also, in the interest of saving money, I am going to get the tickets one way, just give me a call if you need tickets back.

By Brian Curtis

August 31, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

Clearly, Buy Danish is one of those enemies of America who hates freedom.

If only we had some leadership in Washington that was willing to fight terrorism! But nah, they’d rather muck around in Iraq for an ever-shifting set of rationalizations—I mean, reasons.

I’m looking forward to overthrowing the dangerous fascists too. I wonder if Cheney or Rumsfeld will be first?

By CREEPS seeking missle

August 31, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

I think we should get Andy some press credentials for his trip to Baghdad. He won’t be completely living out his fantasy unless he blows himself up while playing reporter.

By getalife

August 31, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

This is what I am talking about

Fascism is in this country.

By rushncap

August 31, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

Press credentials? What about the place where the male whore got his credentials to the White House? I forget his name, I’m sure we all know who I’m talking about. Li’l andy may not have the guy’s “credentials” in all areas, but I’m sure for press purposes we can scrounge something up.

By RE

August 31, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

Hey Andy, I guess you are rearranging your schedule for the trip, I will check back in this evening. Just say the word and we can get you over to baghdad in a few days.

By Dusty

August 31, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

Well, isn’t that cute??? All these folks posting from their safe places in America want to send Andy to Iraq because he doesn’t agree with them. Now isn’t that a courageous stand?

Andy hasn’t forgotten history and brave Americans. Remember Nathan Hale and “I have but one life to give to my country” and he gave it? Andy is talking about people like that. You don’t find them here with RE,Midori, rushncap and getalife. Bravery is foreign to them. They prefer cotton candy cut’n’run.

I don’t think that I am brave enough to be a Nathan Hale, but some are, like our military. Every day they offer their lives to fight against people who would kill us.

Keep up the name calling and the vitriol. Or better still, send it to alJazeera where they really appreciate your help.

Bye now. Gone for the day.

By rushncap

August 31, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

Dusty, li’l andy’s “bravery” extends to sacrificing others to make himself feel good. I would never go in Iraq because I believe we have no business being there. He would never go to Iraq because he has no guts. He will never put his money where his mouth is. All he can do is sit in his comfy trailer and spew about how others are dying, but not valiantly enough for his entertainment.

And never, ever, confuse him with our military. Or with Nathan Hale. He is a maggot. They are (for the most part) real men.

By CREEPS seeking missle

August 31, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Crusty,

Andy is the only one here who has had the “foresight” to call for suicide missions by civilians. (irony alert!)

He’s just being asked to volunteer.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

August 31, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

Well, well, isn’t it nice to know that the first people in line to suck America dry are the last ones that would consider defending her?

Or that so many of your fellow citizens find it laughable and ridiculous that you would see it as a duty to give your life to protect theirs?

I think we got just about all the spineless, weak kneed, pervert metrosexual losers in Atlanta on record now, I’ll go ahead and respond (gee, RE, I hope you didn’t come on yourself in all of your excitement.)

You scumbags ought to be thankful for the people that put on the uniform of this country and stand before YOUR enemies, risking their lives to keep you and your family safe.

But no, every day you embolden their enemies to keep fighting, you give our enemies hope that they can defeat us, every time you open your filthy loser mouths and accuse our soldiers ten more of them die because the terrorists think they can beat YOU.

They don’t have to defeat our soldiers, they only have to beat YOU. And that is their strategy.

And they see your weakness and it gives them strength.

You are too stupid, filthy and depraved to understand that.

Show the terrorists that they can’t defeat us no matter what, show them a unified strong willed nation of people that love freedom AND OUR SOLDIERS WOULDN’T HAVE TO FIGHT ISLAMIC FASCISM.

You stupid, filthy losers.

Almost 3000 soldiers dead because of your filthy spineless depravity.

You want to be loved by the people trying to kill you and better men then you are dying because of it.

By Midori

August 31, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

Andy,

did you don your Patton costume in order to post that 11:54 drivel?

Kaptain Andy of the 101st Keyboard Kommandos reporting for duty, Sir!!!!

go run and hide back under your bed.

Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11, terrorism or your jock itch.

It has EVERYTHING to do with what’s wrong with this country, and why we are so hated.

By TRANSLATIONS R US

August 31, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

SAYS:You scumbags ought to be thankful for the people that put on the uniform of this country and stand before YOUR enemies, risking their lives to keep you and your family safe.

MEANS: I’m thrilled to be spending the war at home watching the news because I am a big red and yellow Chicken Hawk. Nothing I spout about this war means a jot, because I am deeply truly desparately afraid of my own shadow. (and it’s obvious to all who read my diatribes)

By TRANSLATIONS R US

August 31, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

SAYS:You stupid, filthy losers.

Almost 3000 soldiers dead because of your filthy spineless depravity.

You want to be loved by the people trying to kill you and better men then you are dying because of it.

MEANS: CLUCK< CLUCK< CLUCK

By Midori

August 31, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

Translations,

more like, “bok, bok, bok”.

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

August 31, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

By TRANSLATIONS R US August 31, 2006 12:05 PM MEANS: I’m thrilled to be spending the war at home watching the news because I am a big red and yellow Chicken Hawk. Nothing I spout about this war means a jot, because I am deeply truly desparately afraid of my own shadow. (and it’s obvious to all who read my diatribes)

Junior: When I was in the army, we didn’t get to watch TV.

I don’t watch TV now because I’ve seen what it does to people, it turns them into worthless sexual pervert wastes, like you, for instance.

FO

By Quick

August 31, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

The War in Iraq:

will someone tell Me how going into Iraq> is going to help the US find the People who attack this country on 9-11>>>U can not because Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 This guy who in the white house and the idiots who follow him >> u are more concern with Democ. and Rep. bring right>> but the issue would not be here if this guy in the white house could just do his job>>

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

August 31, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

By Quick August 31, 2006 12:22 PM The War in Iraq: will someone tell Me how going into Iraq> is going to help the US find the People who attack this country on 9-11>>>

Let’s see, we’ve killed ten thousand terrorists in Iraq so far, the people that attacked us on 9/11 are dead, THE BUILDING FELL ON THEM YOU FILTHY DEPRAVED LITTLE PERVERT, we’re killing their buddies right now.

6 of one, half a dozen of another, you know?

By w00t

August 31, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

“Almost 3000 soldiers dead because of your filthy spineless depravity.”

Wow, you are delusional. Nearly 3000 troops died because YOUR president LIED to you and the country. We had nothing to do with their deaths. We want them to come home so no more have to die. That quote of yours makes me really sad for you. I find it hard to believe that you are an American.

Do you really want our troops, people’s husbands, fathers, sons, daughters, mothers, wives, and friends, to stay in Iraq and for them to be killed in their civil war?

2600+ deaths for lies and money in their pockets. There is a special place in hell for people like that.

Andy you’re a warmonger

By w00t

August 31, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

WHY DIDN’T WE CAPTURE OSAMA? THE MAN THAT WAS DIRECTLY RESPONISBLE FOR 9/11!!!1

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY???

Once Again, Iraq had NOTHING, ZERO, NADA, to do with 9/11. It is a LIE that they have pulled over your eyes in hope that you would support the war in Iraq.

We gave up on the search for Osama! What does that tell him? I thought we “stayed the course”. Osama always said we gave up too easily. Bush GAVE UP on OSAMA. You guys should be ashamed of your president. Why aren’t you calling foul?

The whole situation is out of control, there is no coming back from this one. Our Children and our children’s children will have to deal with this mess. You see, the president is not responsible just for what is occurring before him, but he is also responsible for the well being of the country for the future.

However, the republicans only see to the tip of their nose. They don’t remember, or refused to remember, history. Short term gain for long term suffering.

By Quick

August 31, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

Lets see its been 5 years and still no Osama> the questions still remain the same is Osama and his Crew still a treat> YES> Bush have done nothing in his term of Office >> He did everything WRONG before >> and After 9-11>>> RightwigNUT>>>

By TRANSLATIONS R US

August 31, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

SAYS: FO

MEANS: Unable to truly defend my position. You can put the uniform back on ya’ know. You could be at the USO, volunteering at the VA…..Bok, Bok, Bok, to be sure!

By TRANSLATIONS R US

August 31, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

SAYS: Grasping for straws?

MEANS: Still can’t defend position.

Bok, Bok, Bok,

Hurry, President Henny Penny says the sky is falling.

By I'm not Andy, but.....

August 31, 2006 01:13 PM | Link to this

How many times will I look into this site and see the perfect opportunity for liberals to solve all the problems of the world?

How’s the bunch doing when left with no interference from conservatives?

Not too well I see. Wasting valuable time as usual.

You people are a blunder to behold.

By w00t

August 31, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this

The way to solve all these problems is to get our troops out of Iraq, stop meddling in the Middle East. The capture of Osama Bin Laden, his trail and death for the September 11th terrorist attacks. The Development of new energy sources and a plan to get off foreign oil dependency and become a self sufficient nation once again.

By I'm not Andy, but.....

August 31, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

The latter of your solutions will take time and your former solutions show that you have no grasp of reality.

Maybe some of the others (if there is anyone besides you) would like to take a stab.

You just failed to solve anything.

By w00t

August 31, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

Explain how my solutions solve nothing. You think it’s better to have our troops killed for a lie?

Besides, we have to start somewhere for the “latter of [my] solutions”

Oh, and I guess you’re right, Bush doesn’t think capturing Osama is worth it either. Bush and Osama got us into this mess, it would be nice to see one go down for it.

By Midori

August 31, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

LOL

He’s not Andy, but he did stay at a Holiday Inn once :)

By @@

August 31, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this

Well ABC may not be marketing it, but I will, and free of charge.

Happy to oblige.

By I'm not Andy, but.....

August 31, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this

It’s gone well beyond Osama at this point. There’s no turning back and it would continue even if we did find Osama.

Quit behaving like a child who’s angry because you can’t have what you want. Grow up.

Chase another theory and stay out of the way. Read to the end. There’s reasoning if you want to find it.

By rushncap

August 31, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

Brilliant logic, not Andy. By that stellar piece of reasoning we should have never hunted for Ted Bundy, because, hey, there are other killers out there too. What’s the point of bringing him to justice?

You neocons are mindblowingly dull, mentally speaking.

By Cindy

August 31, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

Not Andy, Do you have a solution? Heck, this administration doesn’t even have one. They led us into this nightmare with no “exit strategy”, no plan on resolving the potential civil war they were warned on (but failed to tell the American people about) and absolutely no idea, knowledge, education, research: they did not know their enemy.

What we’re doing now has been a failure; attacking Iraq who was a lesser threat than the terrorists, Iran and others with nukes. Perfect stupidity with no plan. What kind of leadership is that???? I tell you it is none; the man is incompetent. He has brought horror to our lives and does nothing to resolve it.

If I had a true solution; I would be in politics; running for office; running for President. It won’t take one person to do it; but rather an administration that is more competent than the one in office. This administration is destable and a shame to this great country.

And since we are into quoting today, here is one from Thomas Paine. (I wonder if any neo-cons ever heard of him.)

“He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death”

Bush authored the Iraqi war; it was all make believe in his mind and he certainly loosed a contagion of hell and is bleeding this country.

We should have stuck with the war on terrorism rather than creating a mess in Iraq.

By w00t

August 31, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

Why not go over there and ask the people in the Middle East what they want from us? See if some sort of compromise can happen.

I know that about Osama. That he may not even have ties to 9/11. He’s till the reason why we are in the mess we’re in. I guess it’s like an “oops, we’re sorry about that” for the administration. Well even better, lets not even run it by the people. They keep changing their reasoning behind the war anyway. So what’s the use in trying to explain anything anymore? It’s all so confusing at this point. Who did what, why we went there, when it will end, who lied about what, were they got the intelligence from, etc. It’s all one big snow-ball cluster fcuk. How many more “oops, we’re sorry” are we going to let them get away with? I think it’s such a sad time we live in when people in our own country can’t get help, we are repeatedly lied to by our government, the poor are getting poor, the rich are getting richer, and the middle class is dwindling. What is all of this going to add up to? Where are we headed? I think if we keep a government like this in power, things are going to get even worse. Some times I watch the news or read things on this blog that really upset me and question why I even live here. I mean, has it always been this way? Was I so naive in my younger years to think that things were good in America and that our Government was there for us and listen to us? Whatever though, it’s too late too look back now. We could say, oh I would have done this or that, but what does it amount to? Nothing. I think the real question now is, how are we going to salvage this mess? I think were this administration went wrong was that they “assumed”. They assumed it was Bin Laden, they assumed that Saddam had WMD’s, they assumed this and that. What do they say about assuming? That it’s the mother of all fcuk-ups. Yet, they still haven’t learned.

Why should we have to fear our government? Government should fear their people.

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

By Buy Danish - August 30, 2006 05:32 PM

“Rushncap,”

“You have a constitutional right to read pornography in the classroom? Or have NAMBLA pamphlets in a public library?

Which brought us to:

By rushncap - August 31, 2006 10:30 AM

“You were claiming that NAMBLA bulletins were placed in schools. You lied. ACLU defends ANY group whose rights are being violated, no matter how repulsive.”

Rushncap,

Note the words PUBLIC LIBRARY. I will not use your tactic and call you a LIAR for misrepresenting what I said. I will call you a FOOL.

Now please tell me what “rights” NAMBLA has to corrupt and molest young boys. There are constitutionally recognized limits to free speech, and conspiring to commit pedophilia would seem to qualify to any reasonable observor, as would “protesting” at a funeral - unless of course the courts are stacked with unethical Leftist Judges like Anna Diggs Taylor.

By rushncap

August 31, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

Danish, as much as I care about your “feelings” (which is very little), unless you can show me a specific law which NAMBLA breaks with their advocacy, you have no leg to stand on. You again fail to show where NAMBLA literature was placed in a public library, I’ll just assume that you can’t.

Danish, maybe your 3rd grade class never taught you this, but we live in a nation of laws. Not “sensibilities”. Laws. You have no right to stop something you dislike if that something does not violate some statute. Get that through your head. You have a right to scorn NAMBLA. To try to counteract them at every turn. To turn them in if they commit a crime. But not to shut them up if they’re not. There are lots of people and groups I don’t like, but I have enough respect for the Constitution of this country to follow it. Obviously you do not.

By CREEPS seeking missle

August 31, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

Democratic Party leaders have come up with several plans for ending the Iraq incursion.

For example, here’s one from Senator Joe Biden.

As the Delaware lawmaker notes, at least his plan shows initiative and seeks achievable goals. And that’s what separates his plan from the (non)-plan the Bushies are offering.

Unfortunately, this administration does not have a coherent plan or any discernible strategy for success in Iraq. Its strategy is to prevent defeat and hand the problem off when it leaves office.

Of course, I don’t expect neocons to consider any part of this plan. In their eyes, it’s DOA because it differs from Fearless Leader’s. But they can’t argue that Democrats DON’T have a plan, can they?

By I'm not Andy, but.....

August 31, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

rushncap, I sent a child on a wild goosechase. Osama is embedded in the mind of radicalism. He’s not the key. He was executing terrorist attacks long before Bush took office. He won’t stop after Bush is gone.

Cindy, You seem to be a determined liberal first, a spoiled brat second and a determined countryman last. I can’t help you with your disappointments.

wOOt, You need to take a deep breath and move to another country if you want. You’ll find the threat of jihad most everywhere you go. It’s even in communist Russia. Putin has his hands full with the Chechnyans.

Oil is a factor in this war. Not just America’s oil, the entire world’s oil. The militant groups in Iraq are fighting each other out of fear that one group will have more control of oil revenues than the other. Iran’s interest is in securing oil within the entire Middle East. They can collapse the world economy and become the most powerful force influencing the world. Ahmadanejad has made his intentions clear. He is a radical fundamentalist who wants to rule a Muslim world.

Bush is fighting this war for the right reasons. He sees the overall threat. His country and its’ people were brutally attacked without provocation.

All is not as it appears to a closed mind.

I didn’t intend to spend this much time here. I was in several months back and nothing has changed. The arguments are the same as I left them. This country coming together in a unified effort will benefit the cause but I’m not seeing much hope for that.

Look at the countries outside the Middle East who are negotiating with and preventing sanctions against Iran. Ask yourselves why?

There’s a lot of insight out there. You people should spend less time in this blog and more time looking for the truth.

I’ll check back in in a couple of months and see if all of you have solved anything.

By rushncap

August 31, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

Not Andy: Osama is responsible for deaths of over 3,000 Americans worldwide. I’m glad you’re on record as saying that it’s unimportant to bring this man to justice. Makes it easier to pretty much disregard anything else you have to say. Not sure how much stock one can put in the words of a man who does not mind if a murderer of thousands simply walks away.

By w00t

August 31, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

Thanks “not Andy”, I appreciate the post. Thankfully it wasn’t filled with name calling and bashing like others here. Instead it was well thought-out. We need more post like this to help with actually intelligent discussions.

By Dubya

August 31, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

Well now. The alcoholic imbecile in the White House and his fellow-insects now dare to steal words and phrases from WW II in hopes of puting a positive spin on the Iraq slaughter for the rancidly gullable American masses. Nothing is sacred to the Republiscum. God Bless Murcuh!! Mishun komplished!!

By Cindy

August 31, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this

Nice name calling not Andy. Like the others you have no insight or intelligent thinking so you resort to name calling. Typical neocon. Doesn’t bother me because I know I won’t stoop to your level.

By @@

August 31, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

Creeps:

When I read your link to Biden’s plan, it looked familiar. A couple of weeks back I linked to this to open up discussion. No takers.

You’ll find Biden’s plan outlined under “An Honorary Option”. It comes with foreseeable complications shown in “Biddles last reply”.

Maybe it’s something you want to look at and consider before getting too excited. I myself have become excited over some small progress only to be disappointed later.

It’s just an offer. Nothing more.

Back to the tubes.

By FEMA

August 31, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

Cindy, rushncap, woot:

When are you coming to help clean up and re-build New Orleans? You know it’s not going fast enough. Do your part and HELP us! Bring a shovel and a hammer (if you know how to use one).

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Thanks for the lecture on respecting our laws. Thankfully your interpretation of the constitution is not the final word, and Judge rushncap does not preside at the Supreme Court.

Here is a story about NAMBLA having meetings in the public library in San Francisco, and information about specific crimes linked to their group

There are arguments here that support my viewpoint and yours.

Thanks to FEELING liberals like you, all sorts of “rights” have been conferred on groups that do not exist, yet the “rights” of others (the majority) have been infringed upon for doing simple things like reading the Bible during “silent time” - a conciliation that was created expressly to appease offended aetheists.

Like most “appeasements” it didn’t work, and they only came back with demands for more restrictions to free speech. But hey, hold a NAMBLA meeting in a public library, and we are told that that is their inalienable right.

Which is it?

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this

By w00t

August 31, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

“Why not go over there and ask the people in the Middle East what they want from us? See if some sort of compromise can happen.”

Sure thing WooT. They want to destroy America and Israel and replace it with a worldwide Islamic Caliphate.

You have a compromise in mind? Do you say this out of naivete’ or ignorance?

By Goldie

August 31, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

Hey y’all— remember that Dubya has already said several times that “we’re not leaving Iraq as long as I am president!” That tells everyone that he has no idea how to solve the problems that he has created — just leave it to the next guy to clean up! And that’s what the Dems are always expected to do once they get in Congress or the White House, and we’ll certainly get the clean-up started after November’s elections.

By rushncap

August 31, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Since Danish is always careful about providing only generic, bland “what ifs”, rather than specific examples, I have nothing to respond to. I don’t know anything about the supposed public library NAMBLA meetings other than what you told me, and you’re not trustworthy enough to take that at face value. I have heard nothing about the Bible case either.

And you’re right. I’m not a judge. But judges sided with the ACLU on numerous occasions. Or were they not judges either?

Danish, I obey the law. You want your feelings to supercede the law. NAMBLA is icky, so they should not have any rights. CAIR has Muslims on it, so they should not have any rights. The teacher is a Christian, therefore he does not have to obey the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

Thankfully the ACLU exists to resist people like you.

By w00t

August 31, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

BD, whatever, you bring nothing to the table so butt out.

By Goldie

August 31, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Rummy— we know who the people of the “new fascism” is that you speak of: it’s you!

By Jesus

August 31, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By @@

August 31, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

Cindy:

I enjoy philosophical quotes. What I’ve come to realize is that they project the philosophers thought in one moment of time. They change when the circumstances change.

What do you think of this Thomas Paine quote?

“The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world not destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them … the weak will become prey to the strong.”

Thomas Paine, Thoughts on Defensive War

By Huge

August 31, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

Coke’s N. American chief quits to run Clorox

Does anyone else find this funny? Maybe he brought his favorite taste tester along with him.

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

I gave you a link to a newsreport. Here it is again

As far as CAIR goes, Judge Taylor, who should have recused herself because she gives a ton of money to the ACLU, sided with an ACLU/CAIR “plaintiff” who has terrorist ties. [Here is the link to that from a piece by Debbie Schlussel, who also has a very interesting BIO if you care to read it.(http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/08/asreadon_air.html)

By Goldie

August 31, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Monday he is deeply troubled by the success of terrorist groups in “manipulating the media” to influence Westerners

No, it’s not the American troops who are dying each day in Iraq that keeps him awake at night — it’s those damned terrorists with the better PR campaign!

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

By w00t - August 31, 2006 04:27 PM

“BD, whatever, you bring nothing to the table so butt out.”

Well well, I think I ‘m going to hire the ACLU to protect my first amendment rights!

I brought this to the table:

They want to establish an Islamic CALIPHATE - in Iraq for starters. Do I need to define it for you or can you Google it yourself?

By Goldie

August 31, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this

What’s the purpose of the continual American occupation of Iraq? Why keep our troops there after they’ve done their job and removed the evil Saddam Hussein? Wny not let the Iraqi government start governing their own people now, and if they have to partition the country into 3 segments to bring about the peace, why not do that? Give Iraq back to the Iraqis!

By rushncap

August 31, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this

Are we going to go case-by-case on everything ACLU was involved in? Are you trying to argue that Taylor is not a good judge? Is that because she did not agree with you?

OK, I read the news report. What’s your point? They are entirely right — any group can use the public library. If they commit a crime, or try to commit a crime, that group can be charged with conspiracy. If they do not, you have no right to deny them library meeting space. Again, your feelings about the group are immaterial, as are mine. Just because we both find them disgusting does not mean we can deny them their rights. If they are criminals, lock them up. If they are not, they have rights. No middle ground.

By @@

August 31, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

Now Cindy has thrown me into my “quotes” files. I’ve missed them.

What about this one Cindy?

“The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.” - Thomas Paine

I knew Paine was an agnostic, or maybe an atheist, but I didn’t even know they had anti-semites back then.

Did you?

Back to my files. Thanks for inspiring me.

Oh, BTW, Bolton lowered the boom on Iran. Time’s up. I’m not glowing….anybody else?

“I’m not glowing”…it’s an opening for those inclined to take it. I’m in a forgiving mood.

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Over and above her faulty reasoning, Taylor should have recused herself because of a clear conflict of interest. If she had been a Republican judge their would be unrelenting demands for her resignation. As it is, it appears that you have not even heard about it.

And no, I’m not going to sit here and argue every case the ACLU has chosen to take on. When this started, I pointed out the FACTS of its history steeped in Communism. YOU then brought up the 16th century and used all sorts of subterfuge to pretend that their past doesn’t matter - that we should just “move on.org”.

By CREEPS seeking missle

August 31, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this

@@,

The Diamond-Dobbins-Biddle &Co. plan outlined in the Foreign Affairs link you posted is certainly a start for discussions, although it’s reported drop in civilian deaths between the Samarra mosque bombing in February and April (when the article was written) erroneously assumes that civilian deaths would continue to decline as US and Iraqi government forces condolidated security.

As we can see, civilian deaths have risen since then. The warring factions in Iraq aren’t interested in compromising on a unified government. Peace is not at hand.

More importantly, the Bush cartel continues to insist that “stay the course” is the one and only plan. One not open to negotiation.

We are still spinning our wheels and there’s still blood all over the tracks.

By Midori

August 31, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

the Chimperor’s latest recess appointment

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

August 31, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

I cannot believe this:

By rushncap August 31, 2006 04:23 PM NAMBLA is icky, so they should not have any rights.

Never mind the morality issue of molesting underage boys, it’s a freaking crime, a felony, so yes, they have no rights once convicted of it.

Now back to the morality issue. It looks to me like rushncrap has no compuction what so ever looking upon preteen boys as some piece of meat solely for his sexual pleasure.

First of all, F you.

Secondly, let me catch you in the act.

Problem solved.

Then you can fight for my rights.

By Writing on the wall

August 31, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

My dear Danish dumpling,

Sky-is-falling fear mongers have been hysterically warning of a pan Eurasian Islamic Calipate for the past 1000 years or so.

It’s never happened because the various Moslem faiths and language and ethnic groups involved can never agree for long on anything.

Remember the United Arab Republic? Probably not. Before your time. Egypt’s Nasser and Syria’s pre-Assad leadership formed a single nation to confront Israel in 1958.

Other Arab nations refused to join. It lasted 3 years. It never threatened Israel or anyone else.

The US would do well to step aside in Iraq. Deprived of a common enemy, the Shia and Sunni (and Kurds), the Arabs and Persians will resume killing eachother, thus saving us the time, money and blood we’re expending to do that now.

Will this civil anarchy threaten oil supplies? If it does, then the international community, which is more dependent on mideast crude than the US is can step in to protect it.

But all the US is doing now with it’s “democracy or else” campaign in Iraq is encouraging anarchy.

By Mike

August 31, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

Islamic Fascists?? The only would-be fascists around are the ignorant, immoral, mindless, cowardly Repugs. And that’s a fact. Bush & Co. need to be executed.

By @@

August 31, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

Creeps:

I’m looking at the figures for August.

Let’s take a breather.

Maybe we can call the knights of the roundtable together for a more recent analysis.

By God

August 31, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

Jesus son - I’m working on it!!! Always appreciate your fine support.

By Reverend John Mark Karr

August 31, 2006 06:06 PM | Link to this

With my new youth ministry I hope to capitalize on all my recent publicity.

I have a way with children, and I have developed a special Christian outreach program for them. I’m sure it will be well received in the south, since I am in tune with southern family values.

I will be here from time to time to promote my ministry amongst the conservative Christians of Georgia. Thank you for your time.

Right Reverend John Mark Karr

By Pete

August 31, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

Andy’s comments today were very absorbing, but padded and spotty. Yet he still managed to come across as a really big string puller. Period.

he’s a regular boy, in a cyclical rhythm, making timely insertions, and keeping his rep unstained.

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

Rev,

You’re not in tune with anyone’s values so eff off.

WOTW,

Yeah, well they’re a little more recent movement on the subject of Caliphates in Iraq.

Not to mention Hezbollah attacking Israel, what was it - 2 weeks ago?

If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend that we’re just dealing with the Hatfields and the McCoys, go ahead. Some of us realize what is at stake here, our Commander in Chief being one of them, and “stepping aside” is not part of the potential scenarios.

Meanwhile, I’ll also keep my eyes posted on Dearbornistan - right here at home.

By Pete

August 31, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

I’ll tell you whats amazing, is how far and wide I get read on this blog and Wootens. In the last couple of weeks, I’ve been commenting about how the Iraq war doesn’t have a geo-political justification that aligns with our ideology, and that Republicans are fascists.

So what does Bush say today? “Ideological”, and “Fascists”.

Bush has never uttered those words, and no other blogger did either till I did.

I rule. I rock. I set the agenda for two or three dozens think tanks.

it’s kinda cool.

Andy and RW can sniff my rear end and share in the glory. Now really, it’s cool down there bro’s.

By rushncap

August 31, 2006 06:42 PM | Link to this

So since you cannot argue facts about the ACLU you argue the moral leanings of those who started it a century ago? Danish, when you lose, you lose. Deal with it. What ACLU does is good and necessary, and whether those who founded it were Communists, Christians, NAMBLA members, Nazis, Republicans or Vulcans is entirely immaterial. The organization has nothing to do with the Communist party. You cannot defeat them in court because the law of the land forbids you, so you smear those who started it.

As for Taylor, I don’t know the facts of the case, and, frankly, have very limited interest in spending time to research it.

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 06:54 PM | Link to this

Pete,

Isn’t it nice to know that you are that disgusting person who posted as “second string”. To think that you’re actually proud of it! Go Dems!

Rushncap,

The ideology of the ACLU is devolved from Marxism and the Communist Party, as is political correctness, as is…….your ideology. This may have began a century ago, but I guess you missed it’s influence in mid-Century American history and beyond.

So I guess that makes us losers if the likes of you and your ideology wins. Which ain’t going to happen, so don’t waste your energy with a victory lap.

Re Judge Taylor, it figures that you wouldn’t want to know the details about the race-baiting, terrorist-sympathising person we have sitting on the bench in Detroit - thanks to Jimmy Ayatollah Carter. You’d read her bio and you wouldn’t bat an eyelash.

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

Second String Pete,

Check out the archives, Dude. You’re like way late to the party.

Wait that could be unfair. It’s possible that no one has ever invited you to a party since your such a freaking loser.

By Pete

August 31, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this

(o)

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this

“You cannot defeat them in court because the law of the land forbids you, so you smear those who started it”

I missed this^^gem from rushncap. How do you smear someone by quoting what THEY WROTE?

AND since when does “the law of the land” FORBID deciding a case against the ACLU?

By You're Right, Where Is Osama?

August 31, 2006 08:15 PM | Link to this

Democrats contended that the statements went too far. “Maybe there are some people in America who do not want to fight the war on terror, but I do not know them,” Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, said yesterday. “We Democrats want to fight a very strong war on terror. No one has talked about appeasement._WashingtonPost”

You got to be kidding, right?

Is this some alternate universe that you liberals are calling in from?

Have you ever heard of Filthy Mouth Murtha?

Ned Lamont?

Oh, hold up, he’s talking about fighting AGAINST the United States. Now I understand.

My bad.

By Buy Danish

August 31, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this

Isn’t that cute. Pete is giving us little drawings just to make sure we “got” his appalling “second string” routine.

I suppose it’s possible that he’s an out of work artiste whose career highlight was to write AND illustrate tampon instruction diagrams for Big Tampons.

Maybe he could make a lateral move into the exciting world of Penis Pumps.

See Pete? Life is not hopeless, even for you.

By RW-(the original)

August 31, 2006 09:31 PM | Link to this

No telling how long it will last, but ml has his best work yet posted. Right now it’s nothing but a title (subject to change of course) and a poll. Interestingly the moonbats are already voting yes.

Not Andy,

Good job today, I really likes the way woot said it was nice to see that you didn’t resort to name calling and Cindy said that all you did was name call, and they were talking about the same post.

By RW-(the original)

August 31, 2006 09:35 PM | Link to this

Too late, the toon showed up.

ml,

You should have stayed with just the poll.

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