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By Andy's One And Only

July 14, 2006 08:02 AM | Link to this

Fires do go out, once they burn away all the trash. And then the fresh new growth will start.

Aaahhh, Freedom.

Thanks, George!

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Critics of the Bush Administration will surely find a way to blame it for the current crisis, on the theory that this is what happens when you push for change in the Middle East. But the real problem is the growing perception among Arab regimes and terrorist frontmen that the U.S. is so bogged down in Iraq, and so suddenly deferential to the wishes of the “international community,” that it has lost its appetite for serious reform. This has created openings for the kind of terror assaults on American allies we are now witnessing.-OpinionJournal

A perception born and raised by a bunch of leftwing partisan political hacks, or Neolibs for short, which could actually wind up forcing the issues of freedom and democracy in the Middle East.

We appreciate the help.

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That’s the meaning of Iran’s de facto declaration of war against Israel—which is, ultimately, a new war Iran is waging against the US. Iran is so desperate for war with the West that it is bringing the war to us, openly and willfully initiating a regional conflict that may soon involve three of Iran’s proxies—Hamas, Hezbollah, and Syria—fighting against America’s proxy, Israel.-RealClearPolitics

The Three Stooges? I know this probably invokes a terrible fright within our left wingers but for the rest of us, we lick our chops.

Where exactly in the desert would you like to meet the 82nd Airborne, Mr. Imawhackjob?

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Look at how ridiculous the Neolib pinkos are:

The End of Cowboy Diplomacy-TimeRagazine

Right at the precise moment in history when “Cowboy Diplomacy” is fixing to kick in to high gear, here comes our silly a*s left, like a bunch of children dressing up as adults.

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To whit:

A RETURN TO REALISM

Reading over President George W. Bush’s March 2006 National Security Strategy, one would be hard-pressed to find much evidence that the president has backed away from what

By Doin' It All for the Legend

July 14, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

Most Americans plan to vote for Democrats

WASHINGTON - Republicans are in jeopardy of losing their grip on Congress in November. With less than four months to the midterm elections, the latest Associated Press-Ipsos poll found that Americans by an almost 3-to-1 margin hold the GOP-controlled Congress in low regard and profess a desire to see Democrats wrest control after a dozen years of Republican rule.

Further complicating the GOP outlook to turn things around is a solid percentage of liberals, moderates and even conservatives who say they’ll vote Democratic. The party out of power also holds the edge among persuadable voters, a prospect that doesn’t bode well for the Republicans.

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock ! ! !

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Criminal Cases against U.S. Soldiers By The Associated Press

A look at criminal cases against U.S. soldiers stemming from the deaths of Iraqis since the war began in 2003:

PENDING CASES:

_Pfc. Corey R. Clagett, Spc. Juston R. Graber, Staff Sgt. Raymond L. Girouard and Spc. William B. Hunsaker charged with premeditated murder of three male detainees in Salahuddin province in May. Clagett, Girouard and Hunsaker also charged with obstructing justice for allegedly threatening to kill another soldier who was a witness in the case.

_Hospitalman Third Class Melson J. Bacos; Sgt. Lawrence G. Hutchins III; Lance Cpl. Tyler A. Jackson; Pfc. John J. Jodka; Cpl. Marshall L. Magincalda; Lance Cpl. Robert B. Pennington; Lance Cpl. Jerry E. Shumate Jr.; and Marine Cpl. Trent D. Thomas charged with premeditated murder in April shooting death of Iraqi man in Hamdania. All eight also charged with kidnapping, larceny, conspiracy, assault and housebreaking.

_Five U.S. Army soldiers from 502nd Infantry Regiment being investigated for allegedly raping a young woman in March, then killing her and three members of her family in Mahmoudiyah, south of Baghdad, a U.S. military official tells The Associated Press.

_National Guard Sgt. Milton Ortiz Jr. and Spc. Nathan B. Lynn charged in shooting death of unarmed Iraqi man near Ramadi in February. Both also charged with obstructing justice. Lynn charged with voluntary manslaughter. Ortiz also faces

By mb

July 14, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

Another brilliant one Mike - “Now watch me catch this bass”

By Political Foreskin

July 14, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this

W was obviously forced to invade Iraq by the real power in the world, whoever that is. He’s a puppet, and a simpleton, who enjoys the simple things, fishing, lying about the fish, and mastering the art of baiting. He’s just an old coot shuffling around the white house, while the world burns. It’s Pathetic, to quote our commander in chief.

By Stuporman Lives!

July 14, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this

Look! Up in the sky. It’s a bird, it’s a plane. NO! It’s Stuporman to the rescue!

By Political Foreskin

July 14, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

Cheney shooting his mouth off: Looks like Cheney’s aim is only good when he’s not holding a gun. Sighted CIA agent. Sank same.

By Bionic Blonde

July 14, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this

Our Incompetent-in-Chief has not done one thing right or with thought since day one…not one. We can only hope the U.S. can survive two more years of this nightmare.

By Political Foreskin

July 14, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this

What did Cheney and Bush do while they had carte blanche for all these years after 911? They are loose cannons and we’ll probably be finding out the damage they caused this country’s liberties for years to come. We got couped, folks, right under our noses.

I want my country back.

By Liberal Texas Democrat

July 14, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this

“He’s just an old coot shuffling around the white house, while the world burns”

Whoa there partner! He’s only two years older than I, and while don’t remember agreeing with anything he’s done, I do share his enthusiasm for exercise after age 50. I doubt that he shuffles. He may walk briskly away from events and issues I feel need attention, but he doesn’t shuffle. So let’s not call everyone over 50 an old coot.-:)

By Danish in Vacationland

July 14, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this

Republican Family Values (doaftl)

You know, you should try to get on one of those Jerry Springer-esque daytime brawl shows. You love to SHOUT so - you’re right out of central casting.

Maybe you’ll even get some free psychiatric help too.

By Political Foreskin

July 14, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

You’re only as pretty as you feel? Behavior defines us. If a young man drives with a cell phone, he’s suddenly 90 years old, if you believe the insurance statistics. W is 60. His foreign policy was obviously derived while he spoke on a cell phone, thus, sir, he’s an old coot, who shuffles around setting tectonic sized fires, and roasting our liberties on branches shorn from the cherry tree that the other old coot named George chopped down.

Did I just compare W to a founding father out loud?

D’oh!

By candide

July 14, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

Given the way we have been lied to by the Republicans, how do we know that Bush hasn’t encouraged Israel to start a new war in order to pull his chestnuts out from the fire or to give him an excuse to intervene against Syria and Iran?

Nothing should be put past these GOP Fascisti.

By Who's The Spammer?

July 14, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this

We get the same Boston.Com website that we did yesterday, gee, thanks for the slow server, loser.

By Doin’ It All for the Legend July 14, 2006 08:03 AM

I guess when the ringing in your mentally crippled ears becomes all too much to bare, this is how you lash out at the world.

By Political Foreskin

July 14, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

W has done one thing right: He’s done WRONG ITSELF right! (and we love to hate him, and everything is topsy turvy and I want my mommy)

By Mike

July 14, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

Wonderful Mike! Sums everything up under this pathetic President in one word…”apathy”. Just like with Katrina, nobody blames him for the event, but rather the lack of effort to comprehend, grasp, or make an effort to do anything about it! Keep em coming!

By Stuporman Returns!

July 14, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

Faster than a speeding tortoise! More powerful than a loco (crazy) motive! Able to leap tall buildings at a single lie!

“Look up in the sky! It’s a bird! It’s a plane! It’s Stuporman!”

“Yes, it’s Stuporman, strange visitor from another planet who came to Earth with powers and abilities far below those of mortal men.

Stuporman, who can ruin the course of mighty economies, bend paperclips in his bare hands; and who, disguised as George Bush, mild-mannered President for a great American nation, fights a never ending battle for mistruth, injustice, and the unAmerican way.”

By sct

July 14, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

Bush is now a chicken chickenhawk.

By Political Foreskin

July 14, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

Bush is already really sorry he ever said the word, “Pathetic”. Funny how people will tell you who they are, if you let them talk.

Iraq will cost a trillion dollars. That was the Social Security money. W doesn’t need it, he’s a millionaire. Ditto cheney. Those two scoundrels probably need to leave the country. Imagine 300 million americans all giving Bush/Cheny the stink eye? That’ll drive ‘em out.

Start practicing your stinkeye today. Why wait?

By Political Foreskin

July 14, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

W looks and behaves more like that impish elf fairy demon guy in the superman comics that has the unpronounceable name, Mr Gztflxlfxshx, remember him?

The only way to remove him is to get his to say his name backwards? Is that right? I forgot. Or is it to just say his name. Darn, I forgot a Superman trivia. This is shameful. Now the wheels have completely come off.

What would kryptonite be for W?

By Big Fat Pathetic Elephant

July 14, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this

Looks like DUMBO has been playing with matches ! ! !

Elephant: a mouse built to government specifications!

Big Fat Pathetic Elephant: a rat built to big, Big, BIG BUSH GOVERNMENT SPECIFICATIONS ! ! !

By gadem

July 14, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this

For W Kryptonite would be the truth, that is why runs from it so much.

By Jesus

July 14, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Danish in Vacationland

July 14, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

By Political Foreskin - July 14, 2006 08:47 AM

Iraq will cost a trillion dollars. That was the Social Security money…

Maybe if Al Gore had been elected and put the SS money in a lockbox under Tipper’s bed everything would be right with the world?

By Danish in Vacationland

July 14, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this

Touche’ Craig.

Do you have any cures for insane spammers from Hell?

By Eric

July 14, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

Much of the world is coming apart at the seams and not only did the idiot president create much of the mess, now our only hope is that the Wizard will give him have a brain to help clean it up. Since that’s not likely, I just hope the world can survive until we can get a legitimate leader into the White House.

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

Nero fiddles, Dubya fishes… same thing!

The whole world suffers due to our simple-minded “leader of the free world” — America has lost all credibility for problem-solving or even to try and mediate any problems. Thanks a lot, Repugnants, you bunch of criminally incompetent boobs.

By gadem

July 14, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

No Danish, If Gore would have been elected we would of had OBL by now and not been in Iraq. We would be able to have our military to deal with any threats from N Korea or Iran. Instead we are bogged down in Iraq. And you wonder why some people think you are permanantly on Vacation. Here is a little history lesson as to why America is hated in the Muslim World

By Danish in Vacationland

July 14, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

Well, well, well. I think I found out what that punk RPV - THE SHOUTER, has been up to when he’s not spamming here.

From Boston.com - A new intolerance visits Provincetown/ Police say gays accused of slurs

By Joe Roman

July 14, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

The chickens are truly coming home to roost. Bush’s armchair macho, ‘go it alone’ policies have made soothsayers out of the legions of us who have been ignored by our representatives, mainstream media and the unbelievable fools who vote for the candidate “they’d most like to have a beer with”. Politics have been dumbed down in this country to such a degree that the rest of the world will soon ignore us and the description from the protest era of America as “a pitiful, helpless giant” will manifest itself. Maybe it’s time for us moderates and liberals to put the Constitution on hold like the neocons insist on doing. Instead of torturing detainees, putting all the chickenhawks and neoconservatives up against the wall and shooting them may be the only way to save our country. They think war is so wonderful. Maybe it’s time the rest of us gave them a taste of it.

By candide

July 14, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

Bush needs his brain circumcized.

By gadem

July 14, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

Joe that sounds like a good idea. There are a couple of I would like to line up first.

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

Let’s see, what was the mantra in March 2003?

“We will be greeted as liberators…”

“The Iraqi oil will pay for the war…”

“Slam dunk!”

“It may take 6 days — it may take 6 weeks… I doubt it will take 6 months.”

“We can’t wait for the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud…”

“Shock and awe!”

How very disgusting those lying criminals in the White House are… over 2500 Americans dead, over 15,000 seriously wounded, over $400 billion spent — and what do we have in Iraq now? A never-ending civil war between the Iraqi tribes, and we’re stuck with an administration who “goes fishing” and says “stay the course”!

Wake up America — stay the course really means stay and die!

By Come On With It

July 14, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

By Joe Roman July 14, 2006 09:48 AM Instead of torturing detainees, putting all the chickenhawks and neoconservatives up against the wall and shooting them may be the only way to save our country. They think war is so wonderful. Maybe it’s time the rest of us gave them a taste of it.

Anytime you want to get your guns and sissy little pinko posse together and start rounding us up is fine with me.

I’m talking about anytime, the sooner the better.

I got a surprise for your a-ss.

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

JoeRo— I’m in total agreement with you! This whole administration should be sent over to Abu Ghraib prison so they could enjoy the “fraternity pranks” that we are so fond of administering!

By gadem

July 14, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

Andy put on your tin foil hat and go and eat some deer jerky

By N-GA

July 14, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, RW, @@, Buy Danish, Andy all hate our American soldiers. They oppose re-instituting the draft. They prefer sending our troops back to the middle east for 2,3 4 or more combat tours. That way they increase the odds of our troops getting killed or wounded…for a lie!!

What patriots!!!

By RW-(the original)

July 14, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

I wish someone could explore the reason liberals don’t just fall over with dizziness. I could have sworn that not very many days ago all was right with the world, there were no threats, and Chimpy McHitlerburton was lying to us about a dangerous world to win votes.

Today you see all the threats and you have President Bush ignoring it all like he’s the oblivious one.

If we can’t figure out why these things don’t make you dizzy, maybe we can explore why you have no shame over being mindless parrots.

HEY!! Maybe the mindlessness explains why you don’t get dizzy.

Pathetic is a very good word for the libs on this blog and I would add losers to it.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

July 14, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this

Granny/Danish,

I make it a point not to take life advice or career advice from the unemployed. Get a job, do something productive with your life, make some contribution to society and then we’ll talk.

By N-GA

July 14, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish thinks that WWII veterans were part of a crummy army:

By Danish in Vacationland

July 13, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

The draft should be avoided at all costs because a military that is made up of unwilling participants who have to be dragged kicking and screaming is not going to be a very good military.

Danish…is there room in your mouth for both feet? You are such a military wizard, just like GWB.

By RW-(the original)

July 14, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

Andy,

It looks those neolibs you identified have an enemy they really do claim they would fight against.

Let’s play make believe for a minute that they would actually go through with and could win the Civil War they are proposing… {ed. note-Those of us in the real world know that this wouldn’t be a Civil War, it’s just what the moonbats call one these days}…The second it’s done the people they have been demanding special rights for would step right in and behead them with dull rusty knives as they screamed for the help that was no longer available.

Glad to see you idiot libs have decided to declare the war against America that you’ve been covertly fighting all along.

By Professor or Teacher's Aide?

July 14, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

RW,

So in about 1986 a woman was telling you she didn’t want to have anything to do with you, huh? I guess some things never change in your life. Maybe it has something to do with your refusal to ever admit that you’re wrong or to step aside in the path of irrefutable evidence.

By gadem

July 14, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this

RW are you fabricating stories again…have we not talked about that not too long ago?

By moonbat betty

July 14, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

Remember loons, W has raised the sea level and generated killer hurricanes which can put out fires as well, I don’t think superman was able to that. So you better think twice before you start shooting.

By RW-(the original)

July 14, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this

OotMVoD,

Actually I think either title gives you too much credit. You actually sound more like a small town government hack blogging all day instead of checking on the sewer levels.

By Neolib "Warriors"

July 14, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

RW: As much as I wish it would come to that I haven’t chambered any rounds just yet.

All I have to go on for their courage is when they said they were going to shield Saddam Hussein from American bombers with their own bodies, at least until the bombers actually showed up.

Or maybe that 3 hour hunger strike they went on last week.

I just don’t see it ever happening, sigh.

By RW-(the original)

July 14, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

gadem,

Beginning at 9:48 today JoRo proposes shooting his political opponents. You and Goldielocks both chime in and say that’s a good idea. At 10:17 I point that out and at 10:22 you say I’m lying about it. That’s a Kerryesque spin job, you should be proud.

Look up ^ ^ ^ there.

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

AL GORE in 2008!

By @@

July 14, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

I’ve baited with shrimp before. Maybe GW is using shrimp as bait. The fire was smoldering for a long time. Now the fire rages behind him. I don’t see the U.S. in the fire. And look GW is on the water’s edge.

Firemen know what a firebreak is. We’ll see.

N-GA:

Try not to assume that you know all things. You never received a response from me about reinstituting the draft. You and I never even discussed it. Your motives are always clear. You want to make an a*s out of “u”rself. “U” just can’t include “me” in the process. I do like to watch “u” go it alone though.

By RW-(the original)

July 14, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this

Andy,

They aren’t very good at recognizing the business end either

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Danish…is there room in your mouth for both feet? You are such a military wizard, just like GWB.

N-GA, good smackdown! The far-right wingnuts have an abundance of America-hating going on these days… taking their cues from the playbook of Reagan/Atwater/Gingrich where the depths of America-hating are infinite.

By RW-(the original)

July 14, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

If anyone wonders what the sewer worker that usually goes by the posting name “One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent” was talking about at 10:18 when he posted as “Professor or Teacher’s Aide?” read the comments under this post, beginning just after midnight on the 30th.

Apparently the little stalker didn’t like getting his a-ss kicked the last few days.

By getalife

July 14, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

Pathetic was W’s cowboy diplomacy.

No diplomacy is mre like it.

Just what in the world has Condi accomplished?

She should be fired along with Rumsfeld.

By gadem

July 14, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

Actually RW that response was to your 10:05. No spin needed.

By The Moderate Voice

July 14, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

It is funny to see the debate on here today. I guess I missed the news where everything happening in the Middle East is this administrations fault. Sure you can debate the policy decision to go to war in Iraq, but to blame what is happening with Israel on Bush is disingenious at best. It is sad to see that there are so many blind ideologues on both sides of this debate. No Bush isn’t perfect, nobody is. But at the same time, he is not wrong every time too. Yes many people disagree with his decisions, but cmon folks. For decades we have been trying to solve the problem in the Middle East, but there are no easy solutions. This is a complicated issue. Both sides are wrong and right. It is sad to see that some few people want to face the facts of the situation and just want to post tired rhetoric.

By moonbat betty

July 14, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

Pathetic is gadem and the Majority VD. As witnessed above.

By RW-(the original)

July 14, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

gadem,

The archives here are slam full of examples of my 10:05. Maybe when I get back from playing golf here this afternoon I’ll look you up a few dozen cases for you. I bet a total idiot like you is well represented in them.

If any of you stalkers or neolib civil warriors want to drop by I’ll be wearing a blue Izod® golf shirt and a Tarpon Springs hat.

By Seriously

July 14, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

The Moderate Voice, its time to change your handle to something more appropriate, how about “Bush Azz Licker”. I don’t know any moderates that kiss up to Bush like you do.

By gadem

July 14, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

RW how do you exist with your head constantly buried in the sand, trying to avoid the failure that is W.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

July 14, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

Okay Moderate Voice, you say Bush is not wrong every time. Name a few things he hasn’t screwed up. Pick a major issues. He hasn’t just dropped the ball; he’s exacerbated almost everything he’s touched. (Although you are correct in saying he’s not responsible for the current Israeli conflict).

By AntiRadical

July 14, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

Good toon, ML. The “Stuporman” suit (hat tip above) and the fishing pole (greatest moment of Presidency) are priceless.

While I have no great love for GWB, blaming him for the Middle East and Korea is somewhat disingenuous.

These backward societies have been on fire since the early 50’s and before. Perhaps a more germaine question to ask is “Have any of these societies ever demonstrated worthiness of the herculean efforts at salvation we are now attempting to force upon them?”

At most, GWB can be said to have fanned these already existent flames a tad bit more; every President since WWII has done little else other than that.

By gadem

July 14, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

Andy it is alright, RW is coming to see you….

By RW-(the original)

July 14, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

If you liberals want to egg my vehicle it is the red Chevy pick-up with the “I brake For Chickenhawks” bumpersticker.

By The Moderate Voice

July 14, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

Seriously, please show me where I have kissed up to Bush. I am no Bush supporter and have said many times that Rummy needs to go. However, I am not blinded by hate or politics like many people (including you apparently).

By Midori

July 14, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

Seriously,

you don’t know the half of it.

wait until he/she starts accusing you of posting under multiple names, while ignoring the wingnut morons who do.

By It Is Pretty Obvious, Ain't It?

July 14, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

By The Moderate Voice July 14, 2006 11:10 AM I guess I missed the news where everything happening in the Middle East is this administrations fault.

One of my golden rules is that when you see a liberal accuse someone of wrongdoing, always frisk the liberal first, they’re usually the guilty ones.

If I had a choice as to why the Muslims want to kill us so bad, and it was between liberalism, with all of it’s attendant sexual immorality, or George Bush, I damn sure wouldn’t choose Bush.

That’s why I’m not a democrat, I don’t have my head up my a-ss. These Islamic fascists have been scheming on us since Jimmy Carter was president, this has nothing to do with Bush.

And check out this little shot of irony: The Conservatives know that the Muslims are wrong and we are the ones fighting for liberalism, in a nutshell. The pinkos are too blooming stupid to see it.

They fight against us every step of the way and we’re their only hope, it’s pretty wild.

Truth be told, they know they are too stupid and too weak to protect themselves and they hate us for doing it for them.

It’s just like a back seat driver or Monday morning quarterback, they should shut up and enjoy the ride.

By Edwin Williams

July 14, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

So Bush is to blame for all of these problems, even though they began long before his administration - Iran Hostage, ignoring North Korea and letting ole Jimmy negotiate for Bill while he was diddling in the Oval Office etc… and then you say he is just ignoring them. He is at the G8 Summet right now, so I doubt he’s fishin’. Luckovich and his ilk are the ones who have repeatedly advocated Chamberlain style appeasement and accused him (and before him, Ronald Reagan) of being cowboys. I remember that the same accusations were made against Winston Churchill during the 1930s! Poor little left-wing maroons!

By The Moderate Voice

July 14, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

Dissent, Bush’s economic policies have worked. The facts support him, plain and simple. His initial response to 9/11 and combat plan in Aghanistan were good. Like I said earlier the decision to go to Iraq and the plans there have been bad, but initial he was on the right track. His use of the EU and UN with both N Korea and Iran are the right idea. You can say what you want about waiting six years or whatever, but it is the right idea. He is not far off on immigration. Border security should be the priority, but to deport the 11 or 12 million already here like some on the right want to do is impratical. I think he needs to add some type of punishment for the corporations, but he is on the right track. Just trying to be objective dude. You might think I am wrong, but that is what I think. And just because you think I am wrong doesn’t make me a Bush supporter like so many here are prone to say.

By AntiRadical

July 14, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

While the current call for reinstatement of the draft appears to be mostly a transparent attempt to tar the Reps, I must say that I whole heartedly support the notion!

Even though this would in all likelihood denigrate the quality of the volunteer Armed services, it would concurrently elevate the quality of the citizenry through teaching civic virtue, self pride, job skills, and team work.

Let’s just make sure that this time there are absolutely no exemptions for any reason whatsoever. Even a quadraplegic can work with an adaptive computer station these days.

Maybe the Dems will continue to adopt support for this political third rail when they return to power. Both parties routinely demonstrate a willingness to participate in political suicide, afterall, so we can only hope.

By Mike

July 14, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

Oh I get it. These are all simple problems that would be easily solved if Bush actually cared. Just like Katrina.

Maybe someday Mikey and his liberal buddies will actually consider supporting the folks that are trying to solve problems instead of lazily pointing the finger. Maybe Mikey and Bookman could do the world a favor and join the goverment and try to solve a problem. Clearlt, these dilettantes have all of the answers.

By RVV (the aboriginal)

July 14, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

Y-y-yeah, those left wingers! What fallguys! What d-d-dopes! What a bunch of m-m-maroons!!

By Dan

July 14, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

Anti, reinstating the draft would be horribly for the military. It would be a repeat of the Vietnam War era when the Army almost destroyed itself. Right now we have an all volunteer Army that is the best in the world, not only in technology, but in people as well. The same problems would arise as before. As a member of the military with two Iraq tours under my belt, I can say that we don’t need or want draftees.

By Midory

July 14, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

What this country needs is a good five cent cigar/marital aid.

By Craig

July 14, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

Danish-I don’t have a cure for the mad spammers unless they are spamming about the Flame debacle.

By Racist Left Wingers

July 14, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

By RVV (the aboriginal)

Hating on Aborigines, eh?

By getalife

July 14, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

Dan,

Thank you for your service in Iraq.

In your opinion, what is going on in Iraq?

By AntiRadical

July 14, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

Dan- I understand your concerns but don’t you think the military can sustain the hit in order to greatly improve the quality of the next generation of American citizens.

As you said, the military doesn’t need the potential draftees, but the potential draftees do need the lessons of character building learned from military service.

As the quality of the entire citizenry improved, so would the quality of draftees that would be inducted from that population. Unless, of course, you feel that military service does not improve an individual, in which case we would have to agree to disagree.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

July 14, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

Moderate Voice,

You say you’re not a Bush supporter so I’ll take you at your word, but I do think you’re seeing things through rose colored glasses. Do you include the fact that the war in Iraq is bankrupting us to be part of Bush’s successful economic policies? Or how about the widening gap between the rich and the poor?

I’ll make the argument that no president could have lost support after 9/11 and every president would have done the same thing in Afghanistan. He snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory (wink- Granny) when he lost the support of the world and sight of OBL when we attacked Iraq.

The only reason we’re going through the EU and UN on Iran and North Korea is because we have no choice since we’ve alienated all our allies and spread ourselves too thin to handle anything else.

Border security is going nowhere because the House refuses to look for a practical solution so that’s a moot point.

So what you see as successes I see as matters of circumstance at best and failures at worst.

By @@

July 14, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

I found this funny. The media reports that GW is nothing like Harry Truman:

Truman fused realism with liberalism. A tough foreign policy was seen as consistent with strengthening the fabric of international community and a world of mutually agreed upon rules, institutions, and progressive goals.

However, in Truman’s memoirs he wrote this regarding the Palestinian issue.

“I spend the day trying to right what has happened. No luck. Doesn’t help a bit.” On the following day Truman wrote to his brother Vivian Truman regarding Palestine, “I think the proper thing to do, and the thing I have been doing, is to do what I think is right and let them all go to hell.”

He realized that nobody over there really wanted anything fair or equitable. No peace for the Middle East. He didn’t like Israel either.

Smoldering….

By Dan

July 14, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

getalife, I think things are improving in Iraq at a very slow pace. The problem I see is that the Sunni and Shi’a are more concerned about being Sunni and Shi’a as oppossed to being Iraqi. I do think the PM is a good leader and will make great improvements in Iraq. The military made some major mistakes early on, but is learning to win a counterinsurgency. Another problem, is that the American people don’t have the political will power to withstand long years of American casualties. I am not making a moral or value judgement by saying that, just my view. Also a basic tenet of insurgency is to break the political will of the occupier and that is what is happening. I don’t think most politicians realized that is the ultimate goal of the insurgency. But like I said overall I think things are improving, just not as fast as any of us would like.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

July 14, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

Andy @ 11:31,

Your quote: “These Islamic fascists have been scheming on us since Jimmy Carter was president, this has nothing to do with Bush.” (comma splice by the way, dumbass)

If you knew your history you’d know that it was going on long before that because we were scheming in Iran. During the Cold War, all the way back to the 50’s, we wanted friendly territory near the USSR to keep an eye on them, so we helped to install the Shaw. We scratched each others’ backs- we giving him military support, money, etc. and he giving us a springboard for CIA operations. The problem was that he ruled Iran much like Saddam ruled Iraq- murders, torture, etc.

Here’s the kicker: Iran was not a pious religious country at the time. If you watch footage of Iranians then, they look like they walked straight out of “Welcome Back Kotter.” The reason they became religious fundamentalists is because the only place resistance to the Shaw could foment was in the mosques. University students would gather at the mosques to discuss “saving” their country from the Shaw and the USA and religious fanaticism was born, along with the first Islamic revolution. You cannot say we are blameless. Learn your history.

By Dan

July 14, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Dissent, if you are going to call people dumb a*s for a comma splice why don’t you check your spelling in your post.

By Just Wondering

July 14, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

Do the libs really believe catching or killing Caveman Bin Laden will really bring all this infidel hating to an end?

By One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent July 14, 2006 12:05 PM He snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory (wink- Granny) when he lost the support of the world and sight of OBL when we attacked Iraq.

Is this one of those happily ever after deals, what do they call it, fairy tales?

Freakin goofballs.

By Crackey!

July 14, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

Dan, you’re scaring me.

With geo-political instincts like yours, who needs W’s global Manifest Destiny ideologue?

By getalifes

July 14, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

Thanks Dan.

By gadem

July 14, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

OotMVoD, learning history like that would make Andy’s head explode. You know their is truth in history. He would rather bury his head in the sand.

By RVV (the aboriginal)

July 14, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

Y-y-yeah! If Dissent is going to call people a d-d-dumbazz then why didn’t he check his s-s-spelling bee in his b-b-bonnet thingie. b-b-bzzzzzzzzzzzzz

By getalifes

July 14, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Please stop wondering. It shows your mental problem.

Freaking delusional, voices in your head, goofball.

By Midori

July 14, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

learning history like that would make Andy’s head explode. You know their is truth in history. He would rather bury his head in the sand.

he’s too busy posting silly, immature crap under several aliases to learn ANYTHING.

By Dubya

July 14, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

All’s quiet on the Middle Eastern Front. Democracy and Freedom are on the march everywhere. And aren’t we lucky to have the the decisive, experienced, articulate leadership of the brilliant brain of Bush. Praise the Lord. God bless Murcuh!

By tiff

July 14, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

Will someone please wake Dan up from that lovely dream he is having about things being better in Iraq. Do you and Bush sip from the same bottle. That country is in turmoil, with no signs of things letting up. Oh, and that bull about breaking the will of the occupier “nutbrain” we are the occupiers.

By It's The Shah, Dumb A-ss

July 14, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

By One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent July 14, 2006 12:22 PM Here’s the kicker: Iran was not a pious religious country at the time.

Thanks for proving my point again, dipsh-it.

It doesn’t have anything to do with Bush.

comma splice by the way, dumbass

I considered it a complete sentence and still do.

Blow me.

By getalife

July 14, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

Oh, I get it. Elections force Congress to finally do their job

Better late than never.

By Dan

July 14, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

tiff, I have been to Iraq twice and have seen the improvements with my own two eyes. If you notice in my post, I said progress was slow. I understand we are the occupier, that was my point. That is the goal of insurgents, to break the political will of the occupier. I was saying that they are accomplishing that goal. If you want to debate the issues lets do it, although I think you are more inclined to call names and hurl insults.

By ?????????

July 14, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

By getalifes

By getalife

July 14, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

????????,

My bad.

By Thomas

July 14, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

Ahhh —-

All is normal in the World —

People dying in combat — Flames burning the cities —- and of course good hearted fellowship of constructive harmonius debate gently ebbs in a flowing articulate manner here on this intellectual blog —-

Hmmm —

Well back to sleep since all is going so well today here…

By getalife

July 14, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this

Dan,

I have been reading Iraq is in a civil war. The sectarian violence is out of control and Casey wants more troops to help control it.

Also, Rumsfeld’s visit to Iraq had the troops asking questions about outdated equipment. In your opinion, is this true or false?

By Dan

July 14, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

I don’t believe that Iraq is a civil war. Everything I have read is that Casey is pulling troops from other parts of the country to put in Baghdad, not that he wants more troops deployed to Iraq. At the outset of the war, there were some issues with the equipment. I just returned in Jan. While I was there you couldn’t leave the FOB without an uparmored HUMVEE. There were no soft skin vehicles allowed. Also everyone had the new vests with the ballistic inserts. So I personally don’t believe there is an equipment problem right now.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

July 14, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

Andy,

That’s your problem- you only acknowledge your own reality. You believe it’s a complete sentence, so therefore it is, even though there are actual things that determine when a sentence should begin and end. You would argue all day that 2+3=6, just because you wanted it to be. This isn’t just a question of grammar; your whole mentality revolves around that type of thinking. You are not bright.

By Yeah, What Ever

July 14, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

By Thomas July 14, 2006 01:01 PM | All is normal in the World — People dying in combat

Yes, indeed:

13 DAYS, 14 HOMICIDES IN DC…-WashingtonPost

Oh, wait a minute, those aren’t combat deaths, no one is being given freedom or we aren’t eradicating evil in D.C.

Never mind, my bad.

By Danish in Vacationland

July 14, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

It’s a moot point, but I said that the draft SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS.

I know that this is really tough for you to understand, but AVOID does not mean NEVER UTILIZE.

Next time you have something stupid to say you may want to try turning off the mute button in your head, say it outloud and realize how stupid you sound before you chirp in your psychotic parrot comments.

Got that soldier?

Punk Professor Zero,

What’s the matter? Doesn’t the sewer company need your services today? Maybe you were fired for incompetent meter reading which gives you a lot of free time for you to blog and tell the rest of us what to do with our lives?

freaking idiot

By getalife

July 14, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

Dan,

Thanks again.

Now for the why Iraq question.

The first reason given to the UN and the American people was for the WMD’s in Iraq. They found none. In your opinion, why Iraq?

By Here's one math wizard

July 14, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

Three people go to rent a room for $30.00, they each pay $10.00. The owner decides to give them a discount and sends someone to refund them $5.00. The employee doesn’t know how to split the refund so he gives each person $1.00 and pockets $2.00.

Now each of the three renters has $9.00 and the employee has $2.00, what happened to the other dollar?

By Danish in Vacationland

July 14, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

Professor Zero ootMINORITYvod,

I wouldn’t be giving Andy any math lessons if I were you. You’re the one who doesn’t know the difference between minority and majority.

By Thomas

July 14, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

Well that depends on what you personally define as combat?

He was sprawled in a courtyard of the Carver Terrace apartments, once a notorious place of brick and cement known as “Little Vietnam,” in the 2000 block of Maryland Avenue NE.

Gang related eh? Figures!

Of course I love watching the Israel surgical strikes prior to the obviously intended full assualt to come in Lebannon.

Lets see - they have hit airports, key roads, and key communication centers (telephone and broadcast stations). Now why would they do that — Unless there was a much bigger assault to come?

Looks like they are cutting off all avenues of both escape from Lebannon, and the ability to bring in re-inforcements to the Hezbollah. I’d say after a few more hits softening up the lace we should see ground troops crossing in the next few weeks.

Like I said yesterday — it’s about to get messy.

-=-

By So No Blow Me?

July 14, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

Let’s argue on whether you are a dumba-ss, since you are getting so petty this afternoon.

If you are done with your little victory parade, that is.

By Danish in Vacationland

July 14, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this

craig,

I forgot to thank you for the great link to Lothario Joe Wilson.

Andy,

Did you happen to catch ooMINORITYvod’s comments from last night? She is not only a blog nanny, she really took that “It takes a village to raise MY child” stuff to heart.

Here she is in her own words

By getalife

July 14, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

Israel’s mission is to disarm Hezbollah.

CNN is very hectic monitoring this situation.

There are 25,000 Americans in Lebanon that may need evacuated.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

July 14, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

Granny,

You can take the “vacationland” off the end of your tag. You live your life in vacationland. As I said earlier, I don’t take advice from the unemployed. Get a job. Do something positive with your life instead of living off someone else and spewing baseless opinions. Hmm… Living off someone else. So you’re unemployed and on a form of welfare. Imagine that.

By getalife

July 14, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

The leader of Hezbollah has declared open war.

By tiff

July 14, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this

Dan, This post comes with no insults. The improvements you say have been made in Iraq, name two. If you can I will apologize for the insult I made. If you can’t, and I know you can’t, I still apologize.

By Danish in Vacationland

July 14, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

Sewer Boy, Spewer Boy,

I don’t take advice from little psychotic punk stalkers.

Got that Nanny Nancy?*

*ootMINORITYvod or ProFessor Zero

By Craig

July 14, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent-What gives you the right to tell anyone how they should live their life? You sound like a damn Nazi brownshirt with a touch of Hillary Clinton added in. Why don’t you just sputter your insanity and leave running someone’s household to them.

I bet you are one of the brain dead fools that goes around saying the President is trying to run your life and take away your freedom to live the way you and your family sees fit.

People like you are sickening and undeserving of the freedom this great country affords you.

By Thomas

July 14, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Hmmm —-

25,000 Americans in Lebannon — The Airports down — interesting problem!

Let em’ burn —- no need to worry about them. After all - a little collateral damage is fine as long as you get those terrorist — Right Andy, RW, Danish. It’s ok to kill a few thousand civilians isn’t it? As long as we eliminate terrorism!

Isn’t that what Bush wants?

By RVV (the aboriginal)

July 14, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

I aint afwaid of no Hezbollah. Let me at ‘em, Let me at ‘em. I’ll fight ‘em with both hands tied behind me back. I’ll fight ‘em standing on one foot. I’ll fight ‘em with one eye closed…(-).(0)…..OH, SNEAKING UP ON ME, EH???

Put ‘em up, PUT ‘EM UP!!

By Danish in Vacationland For as long as I Damn Well Please

July 14, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Sewer Boy,

My tag is still there. I’m still vacationing with my kid. What are you going to do about it squirt?

Off to the beach while you spew in the sewers.

Life’s a b*itch for you, isn’t it punk. Waaaaaah! Nanny Nancy is having a miserable day.

By Midori

July 14, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent,

More like “La La Land”

By getalife

July 14, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

Wow, the “angry right” is spinning out of control like the rest of the world.

It can’t be Clinton’s fault. It is happening under W’s watch.

By Midori

July 14, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

come on now.

If those morons wake up on the wrong side of the bed, they’ll find a way to blame Clinton.

By @@

July 14, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish:

I read Voice of Dissent’s response. Just a little something to share. A wise older woman told me to wait until my child was 12-13 before deciding to stay home. When they’re young, the troubles are manageable. When they reach 12 they become more difficult to handle. Man oh man….was she right. I stayed home with mine all through middle school and the first two years of high school. Smooth sailing after that. She’s an awesome kid.

AntiR:

I’m inclined to agree with you regarding the draft. The daughter’s ^^^ boyfriend and his motley crew all came from very dysfunctional families. A lot of those around these days. Spent everyday at my house. I spent many hours talking to these young men. No hopes of college. No hopes for the future. I warned two of them to quit hanging around with the third. I told the third he was determined to end up in jail. He did. I advised the other two to join a branch of the service. They did. They call me every Mother’s Day to thank me even though my daughter has moved on.

By Danish in Vacationland For as long as I Damn Well Please

July 14, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

Craig,

I don’t think ootMINORITYvod has a family. That’s why he’s stalking mine and RWs.

After Hillary Clinton’s seminal work, “It Takes a Village”, his favorite author is Katherine Anne Porter, who according to Wikipedia sympathized with Nazis, Communists and Anarchists.

By Danish in Vacationland For as long as I Damn Well Please

July 14, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

@@,

I plan to stay with mine until he goes off to college, but Nanny Nancy thinks I need to get a permission slip from him to do that.

I will be there through rough waters and smooth.

By cynical ex-hippie

July 14, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this

Wow, I don’t know what kind of liberals you guys have in Atlanta. I’ve never met any fitting the descriptions here.

Dubya was all ready to take credit for “transforming the mideast” what with all the elections and all. Aren’t mideast moderats supposed to be looking at Iraq right now and saying, “Wow, I wish my country were more like that!”

Fighting a foreign war of occupation with borrowed money, that’s brilliant. Has that ever been tried in history? How did it work out?

By Danish in Vacationland For as long as I Damn Well Please

July 14, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

Thomas,

I don’t recall having a discussion with you on the subject of the Israeli/Hezbollah conflict. Haven’t said a word about it in fact, so why are you asking me if it’s ok to kill civilians? Did Rumsfeld just hire me? Yes? Oh good!

Take that Nanny - I DO have a job and I hope you realize the implications.

Run sewer boy, run.

By gadem

July 14, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Danish, here are quotes from your favorite plagarists~

In a syndicated column: “I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport and dropping daisycutters wantonly throughout the Middle East ” (Daisycutter is a nickname for the 15,000-pound bomb, the largest conventional bomb in existence.)

From the N.Y. Observer: “My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.”

On Fox News’ Your World, Coulter declared that former President Bill Clinton “molested the help.” She has also referred to Clinton as a “very good rapist.”

In a syndicated column she wrote: “And mind you, this was before we knew Gore was clinically insane. Back then we thought he was just a double-talking stuffed shirt who seemed kind of gay.”

In various interviews, Coulter asks “whether America might be better off if women lost the right to vote.”

After the September 11 attack masterminded by a terrorist hoping to spark a religious war, virtually every official and pundit knew better than to take the bait. Except for conservative commentator Ann Coulter, who wrote in a syndicated column on September 12 that in responding to terrorists “we should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.” (CTF Note: Once again Ann’s lack of historical knowledge makes her look like a fool. “Hey Ann ever heard of the Crusades? Been there…done that…bad ending…”)

“[Clinton] masturbates in the sinks.”—-Rivera Live 8/2/99

God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, ‘Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It’s yours.’”—-Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01

The “backbone of the Democratic Party” is a “typical fat, implacable welfare recipient”—-syndicated column 10/29/99

To a disabled Vietnam vet: “People like you caused us to lose that war.”—-MSNBC

Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let’s just call it for what it is. They’re whores.”—-Salon.com 11/16/00

Juan Gonzales is “Cuba’s answer to Joey Buttafuoco,” a “miscreant,” R

By @@

July 14, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

BD:

You don’t need my permission, but I’ll give you my encouragement to sacrifice in the interest of your kid.

I wonder if OotMVoD has been neutered yet?

I’m out for awhile.

By Danish in Vacationland For as long as I Damn Well Please

July 14, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

cynical ex-hippie,

You’re right about the liberals being different here - most of them are fascists who freely admit that they want to shoot people they disagree with, while they’re not telling us how to run our lives.

You can choose whether you want to hang with them or not.

By gadem

July 14, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

Dubya is not going to take credit for anything that happens in the Middle East. He is going to do like the rest of the hypocrites and blame Clinton and the Democrats that control all the branches of government…..oh never mind, the Republicans control that too for a few more months. I can not wait until impeachment proceedings begin.

By Danish in Vacationland For as long as I Damn Well Please

July 14, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this

Gadem,

Are you Nanny Mary? I am perfectly capable of reading Ann Coulter (who is btw NOT a plagiarist) on my own - thank you very much.

You don’t need to spam the board and load up the server. I can CHOOSE to read her book or columns - which I do.

Why don’t you and Nanny Nancy get together and make up an agenda book for the rest of my life for me? Hour by hour, day by day, just like good little fascists. I’d really prefer you just get it over with so I can PLAN ahead. okey dokey?

freaking idiots

By Dan

July 14, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Tiff, here are some improvements for you. The have an open market economy, people are making money for the first time in half a century. Sewage systems are being put in cities like Sadr City that never had them before. Electricity is being spread throughout the country, instead of just places Saddam liked. Oh and here’s another one. People aren’t starving in Iraq anymore. Of course from your previous post, I can tell you have already made up your mind about this issue.

By The Moderate Voice

July 14, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

gadem, please explain to me how what is happening in Israel right now is Bushs fault. You can probably blame every President back to Truman for the ongoing issues there.

By getalife

July 14, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

cynical ex-hippie,

As you can read, the angry wingnuts from the right do not agree with different opinions from their own.

Of course, you can see how well they govern our country and bring peace and democracy to the middle east. They are failed Americans.

Some want change for the better and are considered liberals.

Actually, they are real patriotic Americans.

By Danish in Vacationland For as long as I Damn Well Please

July 14, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

@@,

I think Nanny Nancy was neutered at birth. That’s what he gets for enabling clitoral circumcision.

Really am off to the beach now. I will enjoy it trememdously.

By Danish in Vacationland For as long as I Damn Well Please

July 14, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

It really is shocking that I don’t believe in rounding people up and shooting them like JoRo, or making Nanny Nancy the Kommissar in charge of mothers, children and employment.

Really - the stupidity is rubbing off on you.

By getalife

July 14, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

Danish in la la land,

I will form my own opinion from reading all sides.

You are missing out on good beach time.

By Midori

July 14, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

Yesterday, Bush kept telling us how anxious he was to get to “the pig”.

My only question is which one? BD or @@?

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

July 14, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this

Granny,

Was your hubby a big fan of the old Neil Young song, “A Man Needs a Maid”? Because that’s exactly what he got, unless of course you have one of those to do work for you, too. Have fun at the beach, unemployed welfare mother.

By Midory

July 14, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

I’m not doin’ nuthin. Someone stole MY ID. I am SO reporting whoever you are to homolalaland security, mister.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

July 14, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I keep wondering if Rivers Cuomo from Weezer was writing about you for BD, RW, @@, & Andy when he wrote, “God damn those half Japanese girls, they do it to me every time…” since you have such a great way of throwing their BS back in their faces every day.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

July 14, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

Granny,

Or is concubine a better description? That would mean that you weren’t exactly unemployed, nor on welfare, exactly.

By Midori

July 14, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent,

LOL. Funny thing is, I’m african american. I’m named for my aunt Midori, whom my uncle married shortly before I was born. :)

By Midory

July 14, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this

Midori, you have geschtollen mein ID!! You are worse than Heetler unt his Frauline Teetler when they stole the Leiderhosen Slap Dance at the Beerhall Putz in Munich in 1938, Schweinhuntzen!!!!

By N-GA

July 14, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Great link. I hate to admit this, but it surprises me. Then again, it implies that RW, Andy, @@ and Buy Danish belong to that 30-odd percent that don’t put their money where their mouths are.

Actually, I suspect Andy/RW are paid shills whose checks come from those not-for-profit conservative “think tanks”.

By Midori

July 14, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

Actually, I suspect Andy/RW are paid shills whose checks come from those not-for-profit conservative “think tanks”.

HERE, HERE!!!!

I’ve always suspected as much myself.

By Midory

July 14, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

African American? Cool! I would have preferred Chinese, and I would have preferred a fiddler, but YOU’LL DO!

Get down and be funky…boom shacka lacka lacka…boom shacka lacka lacka…

See, I can get dope wid da hip hop grunge fevah, sister sledge!!!

By N-GA

July 14, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this

RW says I’ll burn in hell for doing this, but I still think America needs to know:

The Department of Defense announced today the death of a sailor who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Petty Officer 1st Class Jerry A. Tharp, 44, of Muscatine, Iowa, died July 12 as a result of enemy action when his dismounted patrol was struck by an improvised explosive device while operating in the Al Anbar province of Iraq. He was assigned to Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 25, Rock Island, Ill.

I honor his sacrifice.

By N-GaGa

July 14, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

N-GA, you have stollen my ID!~!! You horrid troll, you have ruined my life!!!! And I’m a quadraplegic with aids and a club foot. The only thing I cared about was my ID, and you took a dump on that too, well, mister, I hope you’re happy.

By Midori

July 14, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

Friends, you might be concerned that you are afflicted with Bush Support. We here at the Bush Support Rehabilitation Clinic have assembled twenty indicators of this degenerative mental illness. If you find yourself agreeing with a majority of these indicators, please seek help as soon as possible. And remember, if you don’t get help with us, please, get help somewhere.

You believe that leaking the CIA status of Valerie Plame, a “NOC” working on nuclear proliferation issues, was a heroic act, while you believe that the publishing of Bush’s SWIFT monitoring activities by the New York Times was treason, eventhough it was a matter of public record.

You believe that you will stop loving your husband or wife and get a divorce if the two gay dudes down the street are allowed to get married.

You have no problem with voting machines being made by private corporations owned and operated by Bush supporters who claim that their programming code may not be inspected by anyone, make it impossible to perform recounts, operate elections in such a way that they can be manipulated while leaving no evidence whatsoever, and that we should all just “trust them.”

You believe that the Jack Abramoff scandal is a bipartisan controversy.

You believe that Mexicans are to blame for stealing your jobs when corporations export hundreds of thousands of manufacturing, textile, and service jobs to Mexico, South America, China, Taiwan, and India.

You believe that “everyone” thought Saddam had WMD prior to the Iraq War.

You believe that one day we will find the last terrorist on earth and kill them.

You believe that in a time of war, the President may search and seize without a warrant, may deprive persons of life and liberty without due process of law, may detain persons indefinitely without trial or counsel, and keep all these actions away from the review of Congress and the Judiciary.

You earn the minimum wage and applaud Republicans for rejecting proposals to raise it.

You blame high gas prices on environmentalists.

You think President Bush should invade Iran, a country nearly four times the size and population of Iraq.

You think NAFTA was good for America eventhough you haven’t really noticed cheaper prices for cars or other products made in Mexico.

Even though men have bee

By Joe Roman

July 14, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

Unlike so many of the contributors here, I have an actual job that doesn’t allow me to stay glued to this blog. Going over the responses to my idea of “liquidating” the chickenhawks and neocons, I find little other than the usual bluster to oppose the notion. So if you righties hear an unexpected knock on your door, you might want to consider hiding in the basement. The taste police are on the prowl.

By Midory

July 14, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Midori, there’s nobody who would wade through that much tripe anymore. Maybe if you had appeared on the scene in 1999, you would have been the superstar you think you are, instead of the stuporsore crack you’ve become.

Honestly, are people really this simple? Girlfriend, get down. Be real. The vast majority of Americans are WAY ahead of you about W.

You dont have to torture us with your clever little paradoxical t**t teasers.

What a fool, honestly.

By gadem

July 14, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

We all know that Andy is the name jacker. He is going to have a nervous breakdown. His beloved Bush is a sham……

By Midory

July 14, 2006 04:28 PM | Link to this

Hey gadem, give us a break. How bad could a conspiracy be that would involve us in a land war in asia minor, and get the price of oil near 100 bucks a barrel.

GO SOAK YOUR HEAD, YOU IDIOT!!!

By Keeping Track

July 14, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this

We’ve got 3 incidents of mindless, ignorance infested spam on here today, all of them coming from the pinkos, so isn’t it about time for goofy a-ss getalife to accuse the Conservatives of spamming the blog?

By N-GA

July 14, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

Midori,

It would seem that you have annoyed Andy, The Bed Wetter. He seems in foul form today. At the risk of showing my age, perhaps you should give him a lesson in the dozens.

By N-GA

July 14, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Why do you still hate American soldiers?

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

What a great idea of W’s to “spread democracy” throughout the Middle East, huh? Boy, all of those countries are just lining up to get on board the America-train now, aren’t they? They obviously see how well things are going in Iraq these days — what, with their 4 hours of electricity per day happening and having to import oil for their energy needs — who wouldn’t want to sign on with that nifty plan for living? I have to ask: Which country would not want to be bombed into democracy?

By Guess What, Dumb A-ss Libs?

July 14, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

Andy doesn’t do childish things like you liberals do, such as name jacking. My first post this for the last few hours was 4:25.

My guess would be finch, trying to gin up your ignorance.

And he proved that it wasn’t very hard, didn’t he?

Feeling like dumb a-ss wankers, aren’t you?

By @@

July 14, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Did Midori just call me a pig without any provocation?

Nice.

You go girl. You’re on something, but it ain’t a roll.

By N-GA

July 14, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

W wanted to spread democracy in the middle east because he liked how democracy worked in the middle eastern countries that are our allies:

Jordan - Kingdom

Saudi Arabia - Kingdom

Kuwait - Emir/Royal Family

Israel - “Democracy”, if you are Israeli

Egypt - Dictatorship

Yup, W definitely started spreading democracy in the most obvious place.

By getalife

July 14, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

Ah, paranoid, delusional, hearing voices in your head Andy,

You have created the new posting hours so you need to blame yourself.

Oh, thats right, wingnuts never admit to mistakes.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

July 14, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

Andy’s the only one left. The concubine went to the beach; the telemarketer, I mean telecommunications wizard is probably bidding on ebay; and @@ is scared to come out. So Andy’s resorting to jacking again. You can always tell by his homophobic, racist style, if you can call that a style, maybe more like a sickness.

By getalife

July 14, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

@@,

Could be Andy wanking again.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

July 14, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

Ha Ha. @@ gets called a pig and the first thing she thinks of is a roll. Want butter with that? How about some gravy, hillbilly?

By N-GA

July 14, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I hate having to repeat myself. When you log on first thing in the morning to post 3-4 pages of doo-doo, it is in fact you who are the wanker. You post that junk for your own edification and pleasure. You are the wanker of all wankers. When you wank, you use your own face as a target.

By George

July 14, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

So much for the bounce?

A Fox News poll finds Bush’s job approval rating down to 36 percent from 41 percent two weeks ago.

Bush lost ground this week among some key constituent groups, such as Republicans, whites and men. Overall, 53 percent of Americans say they disapprove.

Gee if Fox News says it is so then it must be.

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

November 2006 — New Hope For America!

By anonymous

July 14, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

What a bunch of losers. Who the f*** are you people?

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

N-GA, and don’t forget about our “ally”, the United Arab Emirates… ruled by multiple kings, as I recall (is it 3 or 4?). You know they really like what they see happening in Iraq… I’m sure they’re ready for Dubya’s version of democracy, too.

By Gosh, Doesn't N-GA Sound Aroused?

July 14, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

There is nobody, I’m talking about nobody that will descend into the gay sex routine quicker then Wanker N-GA, especially, and also unfortunately, when he’s talking to me.

By N-GA July 14, 2006 04:54 PM Andy, oh, Andy, when I wank, I use your face as a target.

I’ve said it before, man, it ain’t gonna happen. I don’t swing on a limb.

I’ve also told you, getagrip, many times before: Ridiculous posts are you goofy liberals, hard hitting, thought provoking, leading edge dripping with sarcasm and wit is me.

It’s kind of obvious that none of finch’s posts are mine, ain’t it?

BTW, that dude has lost his freaking mind:

By N-GaGa July 14, 2006 04:04 PM N-GA, you have stollen my ID!~!! You horrid troll, you have ruined my life!!!! And I’m a quadraplegic with aids and a club foot. The only thing I cared about was my ID, and you took a dump on that too, well, mister, I hope you’re happy.

It’s impossible for me to be that weird.

It could be you though….

By Thomas

July 14, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

-=-

Oh My~!

Did I see Grand Dame Danish actually call us liberals “Fascist”? —- 02:48pm

Hmm lets read the definition of Fascist;

*fas·cism [ fá shìzzəm ] or Fas·cism [ fá shìzzəm ]

noun

Definition:

dictatorial movement: any movement, ideology, or attitude that favors dictatorial government, centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition, and extreme nationalism

fas·cist [ fáshist ]nadj fas·cis·tic [ fə shístik ]adj *

Ok Lets pick that apart:

dictatorial movement:

*any movement, ideology, or attitude that favors; * (I think the Republican Party qualifies as a movement and an ideology now.)

dictatorial government, (control of the Presidency, the House, and the Senate, and now the Judiciary even)

centralized control of private enterprise, (corporate monopolies with government tax exceptions and no-bid contracts? How about policy being made by big buisness such as that infamous private meeting for the energy department)

repression of all opposition, (Swift boat, Think Tank propaganda smear operations, Call center disruptions during elections, Vets being called traitors or worse because they oppose current policy)

and extreme nationalism (Well there you have it you neo-con Patriots! Welcome to the New AmeriKampf’)

-=-

By Joe Roman

July 14, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this

Looks like all the Bush supporters have left is calling the rest of us names, and childish names at that. It makes me long for the days of William F. Buckley. When he had nothing, he resorted to name-calling too, but they were intersting names.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

July 14, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this

Does anybody find the employment status of the most repulsive repubs on this site amusing? Danish/Granny- unemployed, sits at home all day drinking gin, popping valium, and, well we’ve all seen her “work.” RW- “telemarketing wizard” who has an “internet” business, ie. peddles child pornography. Andy- Also claims to have an “internet” business, but we know he can’t actually work with all the time he spends here, and no one would ever hire anyone as unstable as him. It’s like Jon Stewart said, the moderates and regular people have s**t to do; we can’t go chain ourselves to abortion clinic doors for two weeks or camp out 24/7 to make sure the ten commandments get posted at the courthouse.

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

Hey anonymous,who the heck are you? Talk about a loser — you don’t even post with a name… that’s how much of a loser you must be. You should go ahead and just use the moniker “Nobody” — it would save you the typing strokes at least.

By Midory

July 14, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

I find the trolls on this board to be average schmoes of the type that haunts every blog. Normal, average schmoes. Real my space dot cons!!!

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

Did I mention that [November will bring New Hope for America?]#(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13857865/from/RS.2/)

By Nobody

July 14, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

You’re the one who needs to save on strokes, you seventh wanking wonder of the world, you.

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

Oops — try this link for restoring America

By getalife

July 14, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

Andy,

If you had any credibility, I would be inclined to believe you.

I did post under “getalifes” today.

By @@

July 14, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

OotMVoD:

Not afraid to come out. I’m reading articles online relative to the Middle Eastern psychology or psyche, whatever. Occasionally, I drop in to see you guys vent to one another about RW, Andy, BD, and myself.

Very productive way to spend your time when the conservatives aren’t around.

You guys have really got it together. Hysterical.

N-GA:

You asking Andy to censore his posts so the rest of us don’t have the opportunity to read them is……well…..censorship. Is that what you’re all about? You can choose to skip over them. Notice the word ^^^ choose.

By N-GA

July 14, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

Well, Andy (The OLYMPIC CLASS Bed Wetter) has gone over the edge. He has resorted to creating completely bogus post…how desperate he is.

Someone should take up a collection for him so that he can purchase some Depends and a George W. Bush mask….NOT!

By N-GA

July 14, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

@@…I didn’t ask Andy (The Bed Wetter) to censor (sic, your spelling sucks) his stupid morning posts. I simply said that he posted them for his own gratification. Perhaps you use them for the same purpose.

Why do you hate American soldiers?

Where is Osama?

IMPEACH BUSH!!

By Nobody

July 14, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

Notice the word “moron”.

Then look in the mirror.

See the blowhard?

That’s you, pal.

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this

N-GA, I would certainly contribute to “Andy’s Depends Fund” — it would be worth it to stop the golden sunshine pouring down on everybody here on the blog.

By Nobody

July 14, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

how dare you say that about me? HOW DARE YOU?? I have been trying to add a comodicum of integrity and professionalism to this blog, and all you trolls can do is ridicule my herculean efforts. Well, there’s always three on a match but only two on a cigar, (ask monica).

Of course you all realize this means war….

By @@

July 14, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

OotMVoD:

BTW, I’m a California native relocated. Lived in the Napa Valley. The only hills were foothills and I don’t recall knowing anyone named Billy. It was a great melting pot though with all sorts of cultural names, but no Billy.

It looks like you have a racist attitude for hard-working and self-reliant mountain people. Do you?

By Hear Those Footsteps, Pinkos, It's Andy!

July 14, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

By One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent July 14, 2006 05:09 PM Does anybody find the employment status of the most repulsive repubs on this site amusing?

This being in comparison to OotMVoD’s way of making a living by sitting in judgement of the Luckovich blog, scolding the Conservatives. Of course this is a much esteemed and valuable position that it holds, far more worthy than actually making money or anything.

BTW, when did I say I had an “internet business?” You goofy liberals sure are attributing alot to me lately that I haven’t done.

Am I under your skin or what?

By Nobody

July 14, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this

Well, Goldie, seeing as you are an expert in the golden shower and the pearl necklace, why dont you get in the swim and do the crawl, froglegs and all (double entendre alert)

Oh dont reach for that one, trolls, it’s WAY over your head.

By Goldie

July 14, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this

A good comment from Sen. Gary Hart today:

“Wouldn’t you think this would be exactly the time when the nation’s wisemen, those neoconservative idealists who saw the great American empire imposing democracy on the Middle East at the point of a bayonet, who secretely envisioned Iraq as our military base in the region, to be heard from? Of course, I mean Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Steven Cambone, and so many triumphalist others so present on the talk shows in early 2003. Haven’t seen much of them recently.”

Like I posted earlier, what a great idea Dubya and his neo-cons had for bombing Iraq into democracy… that “Project For the New American Century” was a real success story, huh?

By @@

July 14, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this

O.K. N-GA, maybe censor, was the wrong choice of words. Threaten with reprisals might be better.

When you wank, you use your own face as a target.

Now if Andy were to succumb to your threats, wouldn’t you be denying the rest of us the opportunity to read his links.

Haven’t freedom fighters throughout history taken risks to get the word out?

N-GA. Why do you hate freedom?

By getalife

July 14, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

Baghdad is out of control

By Nobody

July 14, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this

yeah, goldei, you’re quite the visionary. who knew you were such a geo-political genius?

You trolls are only three years behind the times.

It’s bewildering. you really think you’re cutting edge, dont you?

Bwa.

By Nobody

July 14, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

I hates freedoms cause freedoms blows dead donkey dong, Hong Kong.

By Joe Roman's first post

July 14, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Maybe it’s time for us moderates and liberals to put the Constitution on hold like the neocons insist on doing. Instead of torturing detainees, putting all the chickenhawks and neoconservatives up against the wall and shooting them may be the only way to save our country.

Nice. I can’t understand why they don’t just march quietly up to your execution chamber Joe.

By Danish in Vacationland For as long as I Damn Well Please

July 14, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this

Thomas,

While you’re picking things, why don’t you get your finger out of your nose?

Unlike Nanny Nancy and Nanny Mary, I don’t tell people how to lead their lives and raise their children, and stalk their every move. I would say that classifies as liberal fascism - made all the more perverse with the Peeping Tom bit thrown in to make it really creepy.

For some reason psycho Nanny Nancy has plenty of time to blog today and make fascist comments about how much time I spend blogging and not working.

Too bad Alfred Hitchcock is dead. I bet he could have written a great script starring OOTMVOD in the Anthony Perkins role - redux.

By Mike

July 14, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

Gee, you think Mikey, Bookman or Tucker might ever have a commentary that criticizes Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-Il, Hezbollah, Hamas or any of America’s enemies?

Of course not! Dictators, terrorists, and all Democrats are free from criticism. Clearly the AJC staff would never consider taking America’s side on any issue as long as Bush is in office. Don’t question their patriotism though. Only liberals are allowed to question anyone’s patriotism.

By Danish in Vacationland For as long as I Damn Well Please

July 14, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this

Nobody,

Three years? That’s being very generous. They are still stuck in Stalin’s Russia.

By @@

July 14, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this

Funny, there’s Goldie talking about golden sunshine pouring down on us daily.

By Goldie July 14, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this

N-GA, I would certainly contribute to “Andy’s Depends Fund” — it would be worth it to stop the golden sunshine pouring down on everybody here on the blog.

Only when you post Goldie girl.

“Depends” on how you look at it. Keeping your head between your legs? I guess you can see pretty well, right?

By N-GA

July 14, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

@@,

I love freedom…that’s why I enlisted right after taking my physical in 1969 instead of waiting for my induction notice (it arrived while I was in boot camp). That’s why I re-upped. That’s why my dad flew 50 combat missions. That’s why my brothers and my brother-in-law all served. We are a military family who are repulsed by this administration. Like you, this administration hates soldiers (and veterans).

The draft is a good thing. The Israeli’s have a decent army that is manned (woman’ed?) by 2 years compulsory service. This administration sends troops into combat in the middle east more than 2 tours because they are afraid that the political impact of the draft is too damaging. Keep on supporting GWB…if someone you know dies in Iraq on their second or third tour of duty, you only have you and those who vote as you do to blame.

Most mothers/wives/husbands of the soldiers who died in the Viet Nam “war” still wonder why. I wonder why so many I called friend died there. I wonder what they would have accomplished…or their children. And I don’t blame dems or reps, libs or cons. I blame government, and greed, and missplaced patriotism, and the sheeple who succumb to “the Word”.

By Danish in Vacationland For as long as I Damn Well Please

July 14, 2006 06:39 PM | Link to this

@@,

I think we know now how golden shower Goldie got her name.

By @@

July 14, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

N-GA:

Can you define “The Word” for me?

By Danish in Vacationland For as long as I Damn Well Please

July 14, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this

@@,

I think N-GA is just begging for more presents from you.

By @@

July 14, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

N-GA:

How do you explain the vets who came out of Vietnam with a different attitude than yours. How do you explain the Mothers, wives & children who were proud of what their sons, husbands & fathers attempted to accomplish there. Vietnam today is better than it was then. I’ll give credit to those servicemen for having contributed to that change. You do what you want.

Your attitude about Vietnam is not shared by all vets of that era.

By RW-(the original)

July 14, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

God bless Petty Officer 1st Class Jerry A. Tharp, and his family.

I hope there is a special place in hell reserved for someone that would use their death simply to make a political point.

By Who Do You Blame For The 3000 At The WTC, Wanker?

July 14, 2006 06:59 PM | Link to this

Why did they die, Tosser?

By RW-(the original)

July 14, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

Now let’s hope N-GA gets someone to read that last post of mine to him and explain why I DID NOT say he was necessarily going to burn in hell for posting the death notice. There are two separate and distinct reasons why it doesn’t mean that too. Now if N-GA wasn’t an idiot old mountain goat he would already know that, if he does then he’s just a worthless liar.

I vote both.

By @@

July 14, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish:

Believe me, I’ve got plenty of presents to give. I’m waiting for evidence of his reduction, not induction.

He never disappoints me.

Pointing out that my spelling sucks isn’t provocation enough. @—

By RW-(the original)

July 14, 2006 07:34 PM | Link to this

Who Do You Blame For The 3000 At The WTC, Wanker?,

Apparently gadem blames the Jewish people. Typical.

Stalker OotMVoD,

Was the sewer business especially slow this afternoon? You seem to have had quite a bit of time to try running everyone else’s life.

I’ve got a job tip for you, I understand there will be an opening for someone that believes like you on a small island about 60 miles from Key West soon. If you move down there and grow a pair maybe you’ll be able to do all the social engineering you want.

Do you realize your obsession makes you sound like someone that is sitting around a doll house neighborhood setting up make believe communes?

By Andy ©®™

July 14, 2006 09:49 PM | Link to this

Another Harris Campaign Staffer Quits

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris (news, bio, voting record)’ third Senate campaign manager has resigned, citing the candidate’s “tantrums” and “increasingly erratic behavior.”

“It became unmanageable, unhealthy, uncontrollable,” said Glenn Hodas, who became campaign manager in April, when his predecessor left after only a few months in the role.

Four other key staffers are also leaving the campaign, Hodas said.

Harris issued a statement saying: “I wish each of them the very best in their future endeavors.”

The Republican congresswoman has been a polarizing figure on the national political scene since 2000, when as Florida’s secretary of state she certified George W. Bush’s 537-vote win in the state’s disputed presidential election.

She was elected to the U.S. House in 2002 and has pledged to spend $10 million of her own money on Senate race. She is facing three mostly unknown opponents in the GOP primary and remains a heavy favorite to win the nomination. In the general election, she has trailed Democratic U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson (news, bio, voting record) by more than 30 points in some polls.

Harris said her campaign to unseat Nelson was “aggressively moving forward.” But she has clearly been facing some high hurdles — politically and personally.

Next week, she has surgery scheduled to remove an ovarian mass. In her campaign, fundraising has been slow, GOP leaders have pressured her to drop out, and she has been criticized for her connections to a corrupt defense contractor who illegally gave $32,000 to her campaign.

Hodas said he knew about Harris’ reputation for being a tough boss before joining the campaign in the spring.

“I read the reports and I said ‘There’s no way all this stuff could be true.’ But as time wore on, not only was it true but it was worse than reported,” he said. He described “tantrums, micromanaging, an increasingly erratic behavior and counterproductive, damaging statements and activities.”

A new campaign manager will be named shortly, the campaign said. Harris’ first campaign manager, Jim Dornan,

By RW-(the original)

July 14, 2006 10:19 PM | Link to this

Spam pervert,

It doesn’t matter how many entities you use to try to frame Andy. Let’s just say your posts trademark themselves, visually, in content, and aroma.

Republican Family Values etal, when you weren’t combing Yahoo you must have come to where you being smacked down is still immortalized

So I guess you are still the wanker. Work on it Bozo!

By All The Wankers Want To Be Andy, See 9:49

July 15, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

First step to being Andy: Get your hands out of your pants, Wankers.

Cut

Israel: Hezbollah Drone Attacks Warship-MyWay

They launched John Kerry at the Israelis!

Cut

Syria and Iran told to rein in Hizbollah By Ferry Biedermann in Beirut and William Wallis in Jerusalem-FinancialTimes

So what’s Iran and Syria got to do with it? I thought they weren’t involved in regional terrorism? Could this just be the tip of the iceberg? Could they be heavily involved in Iraq trying to influence the outcome in that war?

If neither of these countries existed could the region come together in a peaceful, democratic fashion?

So what are we waiting for?

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Some Western Countries have said Israel has gone beyond self defense.-AtlantaUrinal“>http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/MiddleEast/LebanonIsrael.html)

Yes it would be better if they formed a line so they could be easily rocketed, gassed, hung or shot, wouldn’t it, you piece of sh-it liberals?

Cut

ROCK HILL, S.C. - Democrats pulled an Internet ad that showed flag-draped coffins Friday after Republicans and at least two Democrats demanded it be taken down on grounds the image was insensitive and not fit for a political commercial.

Didn’t poll very well, did it?

Don’t it suck, the first idea you liberals have had in over twenty some years and it lasted a day.

Cut

Throughout President Putin’s six years in power, a conceit indulged by Western leaders has been that the Russia of strong growth and the Russia of creeping authoritarianism are different places. Russians themselves are told to sacrifice freedom for stability and prosperity. Both are dangerous illusions. For Mr. Putin’s governing approach undercuts the very gains he will advertise this weekend. As the world stood by, Russia has become a danger to the West, to its neighbors and not least to itself.-opinionjournal

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Witness exactly what happens when a liberal starts playing wit

By N-GA

July 15, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

RW (The Real Wanker) & Andy (The Bed Wetter):

Why do you still hate our troops?

You’re both liars and hypocrites.

By @@

July 15, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

Dang, I had a screen open so…..

The city council of Hazleton, a former coal-mining town of some 31,000 people, late on Thursday passed a measure that will deny a business permit to anyone hiring illegal immigrants.

A coalition including the American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania and the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund, which represents U.S. Latinos on immigration issues, say they will sue Hazleton in federal court.

I thought the liberals wanted businesses punished for hiring illegals? No wonder you liberals stay so confused. Your champion, the ACLU is working in direct conflict with your desires. But then their advocates aren’t too bright so it’s easy.

On another note…

“Woo, woo, juggalo!”

Don’t we have a couple of “Woo Woo Liberal Clowns” on this board?

By Gosh, That Was So Deep

July 15, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

This is so thought provoking and so insightful:

By N-GA July 15, 2006 08:58 AM RW (The Real Wanker) & Andy (The Bed Wetter): Why do you still hate our troops? You’re both liars and hypocrites.

I’m going to file this for later consumption. Perhaps I will study it for it’s hidden meaning, maybe see if I can find a purpose for it.

What’s the matter, Wanker N-GA, don’t the gay bath houses open this early?

By al Luckovich, Cartoon Lion

July 15, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

Well, well, look at the new cartoon:

Homeland security

Don’t get confused about the title, remember we’ve had trouble with those and had to change them before (Pot To Kettle), no, despite what you think, this is not about “Homeland security” or even terrorist target lists.

This is about how scatter brained and two faced liberals are, totally clueless as to their own positions on an issue from one day to the next. Playing both sides of the field, never committing themselves to anything and staying with it.

Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t it just a few short days ago that the pinkos declared that Al Qaeda already knew about the “Swift” surveillance program and therefore the Treason Times disclosing it was no big deal?

So now we are led to believe that the terrorists had no idea that lots of Americans eat at Stuckey’s, occasionally a bunch of them at the same time?

Or is this a disappointment cartoon, disappointment that HLS would have the audacity to warn people that they had good reason to suspect might be targets of some Islamic loonies?

Would cartoon boy prefer that their Creator warned them as they were being blown up to the Pearly Gates?

It would have been much better, much better to have the Stuckey’s consumed in vast cleansing fire, allah willing, wouldn’t it have Mikey?

I mean, really, how can you harangue Bush if it doesn’t?

Tell me again who’s side the liberals are on?

By RW-(the original)

July 15, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Your little wanker buddy has taken to threatening people’s lives and property now over at the after dark site. I wonder how many Federal crimes this bozo has just committed? And from State government property too…tsk,tsk

By Middle East Edition!

July 15, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

I’m pretty sure this is the first time Thomas Freidman, Treason Times, has ever been right about anything:

The world needs to understand what is going on here: The little flowers of democracy that were planted in Lebanon, Iraq and the Palestinian territories are being crushed by the boots of Syrian-backed Islamist militias who are desperate to keep real democracy from taking hold in this region and Iranian-backed Islamist militias desperate to keep modernism from taking hold.

You could throw American liberals in there with Syria and Iran, not because they hate democracy so much, it’s because they hate George W Bush and they don’t really care what gets ruined in their campaign against him.

They are frigged in the damn head.

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The London-based Arabic language newspaper Al-Hayat reported Saturday that “Washington has information according to which Israel gave Damascus 72 hours to stop Hizbullah’s activity along the Lebanon-Israel border and bring about the release the two kidnapped IDF soldiers or it would launch an offensive with disastrous consequences.”-Ynet

Here’s hoping that Syria rejects that offer.

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Israel has not only survived, but has become stronger. It is a vibrant and prospering democracy, with robust economic growth over the last five years, the highest number of books published per capita in the world, and second place in the world in the publication of articles in scientific journals.

The Arabs, in the meantime, with all their aggression, have only brought on their peoples misery and poverty. President Anwar Sadat of Egypt and King Hussein of Jordan tower above this self-destructiveness as leaders who really served the best interests of their people by making peace with Israel.-IHT

It’s what stupid, psychotic people are good at, bringing woe upon themselves.

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Despite Hezbollah’s history, the European Union, led by the French, incredibly doesn’t consider it a terrorist organization. Branding it as such would end its fundraising activities in Europe. Hezb

By Danish in Vacationland

July 15, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

Andy (the one and only),

That last post about “ethical eating” was especially delicious.

By RW-(the original)

July 15, 2006 07:49 PM | Link to this

Danish in Vacationland,

I like the idea Andy has for the solution to the lib food dilemma.

I put in a second FBI complaint referencing the first. Everybody that files one will get a separate complaint ID.

By @@

July 15, 2006 08:45 PM | Link to this

I really enjoyed the way “Bob” in Andy’s “ethical eating” link left this question unanswered.

“When a mosquito lands on your arm, what do you do?”

I’ll answer that Bob.

YOU SMASH IT, SQUASH IT, OBLITERATE IT.

Done!!! Lock & load!!! Next???

By This Is Hilarious

July 15, 2006 09:19 PM | Link to this

“Moonbat Fasting With Michelle Malkin”

The Cindi imitation is worth the price of admission alone.

By Danish in Vacationland

July 15, 2006 10:58 PM | Link to this

RW,

Andy’s solution to the lib food dilemna was pure genius.

I wonder how the food tastes in the penitentiary? I suppose it’s better than nothing at all.

By It's 8 A.M. Again, You Silly Pinkos

July 16, 2006 07:58 AM | Link to this

Classic Steyn:

The forces at play in the Middle East are beyond the Geopolitical Friars’ Club. The median age in Gaza is 15.8 years old. How likely is it that any of those bespoke Palestinian “moderates” who’ve been permanent fixtures on CNN and BBC Middle East discussion panels for 30 years have any meaningful sway over a population of unemployed uneducated teenage boys raised by a death cult? Israel withdrew from Gaza and, instead of getting on with a prototypical Palestinian state, Hamas turned the territory into an Islamist camp. Israel withdrew from Lebanon entirely in 2000, yet Hezbollah is now lobbing rockets at Haifa.-ChicagoSunTimes

Look at the “Reader’s Quotes,” first item on page C7 of the Pinko Times and then compare it to this:

“It looks like congratulations are in order for the Georgia Democratic Party,” Perdue spokeswoman Heather Hedrick said. “It appears that dead people, felons and illegal aliens will be able to vote in Tuesday’s primary.”-FreeRepublic

Gee, I wonder which part of the quote the libs edited out?

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Oh, well this makes it all better:

Every time I write about this, though, I get angry letters and e-mails from readers who point out the savagery of al-Qaida’s death squads and wonder why I don’t condemn them. That always strikes me as a strange comparison — a kind of moral equivalence I don’t get. Of course, al-Qaida is beyond contempt: brutal, blood-thirsty, utterly contemptible. I don’t expect its members to observe any rules of civilized behavior. But I do expect that of the men and women who represent the United States.-QueenPinkoAtlantaUrinal

Not.

If I were an Islamic loony and read back through every single one of this Pinko’s columns since 9/11, every column bar none, I would deduce from them that she wants me to attack the United States and at the very least, if I did, that I should be given a 5 star hotel room with a wait staff if I am captured.

It’s called aid and comfort, Cynthia. We’re at war.

Every time I write about this, though, I get angry letters and e-mails from read

By N-GA

July 16, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this

Good morning RW (The Real Wanker), Andy (The Bed Wetter), Buy Danish, @@ and all other wing-nuts. I read with amusement your after-hours posts. Only you wing-nuts are so well-paid by the neo-cons that you go to such extremes.

I look at each name you post under and it becomes clear that you are one and the same. Whether that means one individual or several, you are all sociopaths. But more importantly, you are all liars and hypocrites.

You say that you want to think on my last post. Don’t bother. I’ll give it to you in simple words. YOU HATE AMERICAN TROOPS!!!

You lie when you say you support them. If you did, you would want to re-institute the draft. You would want there to be sufficient troops to finish the job. The current commander on the ground in Iraq was quoted this week as saying we are closer to the beginning than the end in Iraq. He refused to say we are winning…all he would say was he didn’t think we were losing. In the meantime, we send troops back to the middle east for more combat duty. 2,3,4 combat tours. Some are professional soldiers. Many are reservists who have (had) other jobs.

With a draft, we could send more troops, as required. We could reduce the number of combat tours. We could let some reservists get on with their lives. We could let those professional soldiers who want to retire do so, instead of extending their enlistments involuntarily.

But you sycophants don’t support our troops. You support a dying administration along with its failed policies. And you continue to do so. So you are complicit in each and every death, both American (coalition) and Iraqi.

You don’t love America. You love power. You love money. You love dominion over others. You love to hate.

And there it is, plain and simple. Even you fools can understand. But its all wasted on you. Because you understood it already. You don’t need me to explain it to you. You know what you are….and so do we.

By Danish in vacationland

July 16, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

You don’t need me to explain it to you. You know what you are….and so do we.

N-GA,

Who is we?

Your nasty habit of entertaining yourself by following our posts with an unnatural obsession has not gone unnoticed.

By RW-(the original)

July 16, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

Andy,

It sounds to me like Queen Pinko is trying to solicit some angry mail so she can use it for the next column on bloodthirsty Americans. I think the Al Jazeera Constitution should consider a paid wall like the Treason Times.

N-GA,

I’m sure we aren’t interested in your late night surfing habits, well maybe a little,

Check out Charles Rangell’s (D-NY) bill to reintroduce the draft, he didn’t even vote for it moron so we don’t really need your uninformed bluster on the issue.

Maybe instead of being the little sheep follower that you are, you can break free and do some real research. All you seem to offer is your vile mouth and the ability to say “me too” every time one of the other moonbats pipes up. Screw you, if you don’t like our posts quit stalking us and come up with something that can’t be refuted by a six year old with common sense. Now go get somebody to tell you how to respond.

By Oh Great, Another One Losing It

July 16, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

By N-GA July 16, 2006 09:21 AM Good morning RW (The Real Wanker), Andy (The Bed Wetter), Buy Danish, @@ and all other wing-nuts. I read with amusement your after-hours posts. Only you wing-nuts are so well-paid by the neo-cons that you go to such extremes.

So what ever happened to the gold old days when if you disagreed with something you read or heard, you gathered your evidence and formulated an argument to prove your case against it and why you felt you were right?

Why does every debate nowadays have to be countered with some moonbat fever swamp theory that the kook has dreamed up in their own mind?

Is this not the pure, unadulterated version of having your head stuck up your a-ss? If you can’t smell your own sh-it then it can’t possibly be true. And don’t leave the realm of your own rectum to find out why it doesn’t sound right, just grab some of your feces and sling them around.

Yep, that’s Wanker N-GA for ya.

By @@

July 16, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

N-GA:

You really are simplifying the concept of gift giving. It’s always been more complicated in my daily life, but with you……not so.

In response to your 9:21 ^^^. My response to AntiRadical’s post and BD’s response to you clearly indicates you are wrong once again.

Gift #4

By AntiRadical July 14, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

While the current call for reinstatement of the draft appears to be mostly a transparent attempt to tar the Reps, I must say that I whole heartedly support the notion!

By @@ July 14, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

AntiR:

I’m inclined to agree with you regarding the draft.

By Danish in Vacationland July 14, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

It’s a moot point, but I said that the draft SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS.

I know that this is really tough for you to understand, but AVOID does not mean NEVER UTILIZE.

Are you beginning to understand why it is so easy for me to associate the word “stupid” with your posts?

And look ^^^ Andy shares a different opinion from mine and BD’s. I don’t recall if RW responded on the draft issue. So your use of the word “sycophant” doesn’t even apply.

Your posts should be based in reality. Otherwise, you make yourself the liar and hypocrite.

By RW-(the original)

July 16, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

More lies from Larry Johnson, you might remember Johnson from this blog just the other day when N-GA was touting him as the man who knew all we needed to know about the spy that’s identity was so compromised she had to spend the year at a cosmetic surgeons office.

I’m not surprised N-GA would pass along everything this liar says as fact, birds of a feather and all.

ABC took the N-GA route of “factual” reporting. This “lie and hope nobody catches on” you guys are using really isn’t working. Some sage advice about dealing in fact and making your case was given shortly before this comment. You moonbats ought to put away your pomposity and heed it.

By Oh Great, Another One Losing It

July 16, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

Northeast Asia has prospered as much as any place in the world since the end of the Korean War, thanks to the peace and security provided by the U.S. military. We’d prefer to see that status quo continue, but North Korea’s provocations have introduced a threatening new instability. Tokyo has wisely understood the benefits of staying under the American nuclear umbrella, but once domestic political and nationalist impulses start to stir, they can be hard to contain.

China and South Korea may think they can prop up Kim at little cost, save for America’s discomfort. But the combination of China’s strategic cynicism toward a client dictatorship and South Korea’s naive appeasement is making that neighborhood a much more dangerous place. If North Korea continues to defy the world and the world continues to do nothing, a more militarily assertive, and probably nuclear-armed, Japan is inevitable.-OpinionJournal

I guess nobody told China about playing with fire, hehehehe.

And they thought their little goony bird mass murdering dictator was cute, hehehe.

It ain’t so funny anymore, eh, punka-ss?

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Another iron rule that applies to this and every Israeli attempt to strike back at Islamist terrorists is that, just when the Israeli Defense Forces really start to hurt the enemy, the world community - including the United States - intervenes to save the terrorists from destruction.

Europeans have more sympathy with Iran’s nuclear program than they do with Israel’s attempts at self-defense. But, then, the only thing continental Europeans regret about the Holocaust is that they didn’t get to finish the job. Even as Europe suffers its own attacks by Islamist terrorists, Europeans defend the selfsame terrorists against Israeli retribution.-NewYorkPost

This time could we give war a chance?

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Steve Chapman, “Conservative” and bald faced liar:

And there is Iraq, wracked by mayhem that claims hundreds of American and Iraqi lives every month.-ChicagoTribune

Iraq has never claimed a hundred Ame

By Thanks For The Link, RW

July 16, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

Sen. Patty Murray (D, Washington) was in a meeting with other Senate leaders. “From a window in the meeting room, she saw a plane hit the Pentagon.” Seattle Times, December 9, 2001

http://www2.hawaii.edu/~julianr/lexisnexis/murray.txt-Tri -City Herald / Les Blumenthal and John Stang / Sept. 12th

James S Robbins a national-security analyst & ‘nationalreviewonline’ contributor: “I was standing, looking out my large office window, which faces west and from six stories up has a commanding view of the Potomac and the Virginia heights.”

“The Pentagon is about a mile and half distant in the center of the tableau. I was looking directly at it when the aircraft struck. The sight of the 757 diving in at an unrecoverable angle is frozen in my memory, but at the time.

I did not immediately comprehend what I was witnessing. There was a silvery flash , an explosion, and a dark, mushroom shaped cloud rose over the building.”

“I was there. I saw it. That is my entire rebuttal.”

… nationalreview.com Rebuttal written by Robbins, April 9, 2002 8:55 a.m.

By RW-(the original)

July 16, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this

Scroll down to the posts that were made during the weekend last week. Something seems to be missing this week. hmmmm…..

By Hot Pursuit

July 16, 2006 08:09 PM | Link to this

RW,

THE SHOUTER?

Awwww, maybe he has laryngitis and no one to make him a nice mug of hot lemonade and rum.

Ooooh, maybe he’s in an asylum with padded walls, confined to a straight jacket, and can’t type with both his hands behind his back.

Orrrr, Maybe he hightailed it out of here?

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