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By candide
July 10, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this
Something is being forgotten in all this hysteria about a nuclear Iran and North Korea. Does any country have a right to decide who shall and who shan’t have nuclear weapons? Why should any nation have more rights in this area than another nation?
By Andy's One And Only!
July 10, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this
Surprise, Surprise!:
On Tuesday, White House officials are expected to announce that the tax receipts will be about $250 billion above last year’s levels and that the deficit will be about $100 billion less than what they projected six months ago. The rising tide in tax payments has been building for months, but the increased scale is surprising even seasoned budget analysts and making it easier for both the administration and Congress to finesse the big run-up in spending over the past year.
Tax revenues are climbing twice as fast as the administration predicted in February, so fast that the budget deficit could actually decline this year.NewYorkTreasonTimes
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It’s official — Arthur Laffer wins. New data show federal revenues surged in the first three quarters of the current fiscal year. Corporate tax receipts are up more than 26% over the same period last year, ringing in at $250 billion. Individual income tax collections, at $791 billion, are up 14% over the first nine months of fiscal 2005. The Congressional Budget Office projects corporate tax receipts will total $330 billion by the end of the fiscal year. As a result, the deficit for the year is expected to be about $300 billion, down from $318 billion last year and $412 billion the year before.
A third of those higher income-tax revenues came from the highest-earning 1% of households, according to the New York Times.-NYSun
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Surprise, Surprise!:
“We aren’t going to get into specifics in public now, but I think when we brief the House and Senate in the coming days we will be able to make a clear and persuasive case that the SWIFT leak has severely set our efforts back on a number of fronts and on a number of investigations,” says a Treasury official familiar with the preparations of the Congressional briefings. “Depending on where we come out of things, some of us are of a mindset to recommend that as these much information as possible that we can allow to be declassified should be declassified, so that the American people can see just how much damage the Times has caused.”-
By w00t
July 10, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this
This cartoon is SO true.
All the other stories posted by the freak above are irrelevant.
By @@
July 10, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this
ml. If you are telling us that this cartoon pre-dates 2000. I’ll go with your “Gullible’s Travels” pictoon. But your likeness of Uncle Sam (Clinton) ain’t too good.
You sure are taking the “path of least resistance” on your toon titles now. So what gives?
By Tess Trueheart
July 10, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this
I’m waiting for Dudley Dooright to save the day but he seems to be running late. Maybe Candide can step in and rescue me when she’s done rescuing Kim Ill Jong.
By RW-(the original)
July 10, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this
Andy,
Here’s the video of that refined Frenchie using his head.
By Mike
July 10, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this
candide, you show your true leftists values here today. You are now engage in moral realitivism. In the real world, there is a pecking order. Western countries are at the top right now. Led by the corrupt and incompetent UN, western nations decide who shouldn’t have nuclear weapons. Do you really want two leaders like Ahmanejhad and Jong-Il to have nuclear capabilites? All Ahmanejhad has threatened to do is wipe a soverign country off the face of the earth. North Korea is a destablizing force for northeast Asia. But hey if you think it is okay for them to have nuclear weapons go right ahead. But please explain why it is okay for them to have nucs.
By w00t Has Deemed Irrelevant, Therefore I Am
July 10, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this
THERE’S JOY at the White House again and less anxiety among Republicans in Congress. The excesses of the press and Supreme Court are bringing Bush and rebellious conservatives closer together. Iraq is better off. The American economy is humming. The White House has made no harmful missteps. And the president’s job approval rating is rising.
A major Democratic blunder was the elevation of Representative John Murtha of Pennsylvania to the status of chief party spokesman on Iraq. On Meet the Press last month, he cited the humiliating American retreats from Lebanon in 1983 and Somalia in 1993 as models of what the United States should do in Iraq. Another blunder was forcing—and losing—a congressional debate on Iraq. “It helped Republicans and hurt Democrats, something that many pundits didn’t believe was possible,” a White House aide claims.-WeeklyStandard
That’s our buddies, the democrats. They open their mouths, new Republicans are created. So be nice to them! No matter how annoying and ignorant they seem, suffer for the good of the party!
You shall be well rewarded.
By Ooops
July 10, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this
w00t Has Deemed Me Irrelevant, Therefore I Am
Excuse me.
By Getitright
July 10, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this
Mikey is irrelevant. Let’s not forget how he has given aid and comfort to our enemies by calling our good troops “terrorists” in his cartoons. He hates America. We won’t forget, Mikey.
Mike’s got to go.
Mike’s got to go.
Mike’s got to go.
By @@
July 10, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this
See what happens when the Democrats keep saying “Liar Liar Pants on Fire”.
Their asses get burned. Keep up the good work.
By @@
July 10, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this
Hey AJC, turn on your censor ^^^. I’ve come to rely on it. Are you gonna ban me because you aren’t doing your job.
How did my reference to “Dems rear ends” pass through. Has the AJC come to see the light?
By w00t
July 10, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this
Look, what have the repubs accomplished? Not much of anything but to p**s the whole world off.
Iraq: Haven for terrorist, secular violence, starting of a civil war, Iraqis dying everyday, 2500+ of our troops dead from a war that the American public was lied to about, and the military being stuck in a place that we didn’t need to be in the first place. I thought the war was over, didn’t we win or something? If it was over then why are people still dying? Do any of you with a rational sense of logic find any of this reasonable? Is this justifiable? We should not go into countries to replace their leaders just because we do not like them.
Now we have North Korea and Iran that are developing nuclear technologies. North Korea is a bit ahead of Iran, but they still do not have re-entry vehicle technology to deliver war heads over great distances. Have any of you ever thought that maybe these two countries are responding to the fact that Bush put them on a “Axis of Evil” list and that they feel threatened? What was our reaction to the Soviet Union when we felt threatened by their nuclear ambitions and military, we built ours up? We built up our military and nuclear arsenal. Why should we be so surprised that North Korea and Iran are building up their military when another country deems them a threat? The problem is, we’re stuck in Iraq now with out military with no end in site. So now the Bush Administration wants to use Diplomacy because they know we’ll get our asses handed to us if we in to these countries. Cowboy tactics will not work here.
By Is The War Over In Atlanta Yet?
July 10, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this
By w00t July 10, 2006 09:38 AM I thought the war was over, didn’t we win or something? If it was over then why are people still dying?
Last time I checked, just as many Americans died violently yesterday in Atlanta as did in Iraq.
Little smarta-ss, this is your only gauge of progress in the war on terror is whether we are keeping our soldiers safe?
It’s why we should all count our blessings that you aren’t in charge of protecting us.
Cause you damn sure wouldn’t.
By The Way
July 10, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
Yes, any four year old would be quick to see the lilliputian angle. How clever the Dittoheadwounds are!!!
When people stop thinking for themselves, then the electrical arcs across their synaptical gaps get short circuited, and they express themselves in single-voiced lock-step with the double-wide gap-toothed.
By Midori
July 10, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this
@@ just can’t seem to get over her fixation/fascination with Clinton’s dick.
By w00t
July 10, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this
Did I ask about Atlanta? Are we fighting the “war on terror” in Atlanta? Oh, maybe they were looking for WMD’s at the World of Coke? Did they find
If we’ve made progress, what is it then? Is it that we’ve created another place for terrorist to come and kill our troops? Are we making progress when Iraqis are fighting each other? Are we making progress that there were no WMD’s? What am I missing? Was this spending billion’s of dollars on this war justified?
Now that we have real threats in the world, what are we going to do now? These countries have REAL WMD’s that pose a REAL threat to the bit of peace the world has. What do we do? How should we go about solving this problem? If we went by the same plan we used for Iraq we should just roll up in there and take the place over. Will that work now? Sure doesn’t seemed like it worked the first time.
Also, I don’t feel any more protect, I actually feel less protected thanks to the bumbling idiot.
By Midori
July 10, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this
w00t,
thank you very much
This cartoon is SO true.
All the other stories posted by the freak above are irrelevant.
By Midori
July 10, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this
This is @@ in a nutshell:
Her issue is Bill Clinton.
Issues has an issue and she won’t rest until it becomes your issue, too. Even when she’s not talking about her issue it’s clear she would rather be talking about her issue. Something of a secular evangelist, he religion, her raison d’etre, her abiding passion is….well, her issue. Not exclusive to any ideological orientation, her issue could be the environment, abortion rights, raw foods, breast feeding, whatever. Her obsession, however, provides the key to defeating her in battle; she can’t tolerate indifference, so if her thrusts are simply ignored she will rage, accuse, condemn, plead and finally, go away.
By Midori
July 10, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this
And this is Andy:
Grenade isn’t actually a Warrior, per se, but it’s an ordnance so widely employed that no Flame Warriors guide would be complete without mentioning it. When lobbed into a discussion forum Grenade instantly blasts civil discourse into smoking rubble. Grenade’s explosive content can be adjusted to the forum’s interests. Typical detonating materials can be Bill Clinton, George Bush, gun control, homosexuality, Reagan, abortion, taxes, conspiracy theory, the NEA, welfare reform, etc. When facing certain defeat a Warrior can stall even the most determined attack with a diversionary explosion. Grenade can bea particularly destructive weapon in the hands of Evil Clown, Issues, Troglodyte or even Weenie, but almost any Warrior can use it to gain a temporary strategic advantage. Eagle Scout has been known to throw himself upon Grenade to save the forum.
By @@
July 10, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this
Midori:
I think it’s you that harbors that fascination for Clinton. Afterall, it was you posting it over and over the other day. I really don’t care what he chooses to do with it. Screw you? Hey, no problem here.
The left’s fixation with the little d*ck on the left in ml’s cartoon is what fascinates me.
Ruffle, ruffle!!!!!!!
By w00t Has Deemed Me Irrelevant, Therefore I Am
July 10, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this
By w00t July 10, 2006 10:17 AM Did I ask about Atlanta?
You didn’t, Sherlock, I did. Look at my comments^^.
I did that to illustrate the hypocrisy of you pinko liberals, the way you cling to the death of every soldier in a war zone while people die right here in your backyard.
Your shrieking has no credibility.
If we’ve made progress, what is it then? Is it that we’ve created another place for terrorist to come and kill our troops?
Bush said 3 years ago and nothing has changed since then, that this war on terror would be a long hard road to travel before it’s won and, that if America is smart, they won’t elect any liberals during this crucial period in our history.
Actually, I made that last part up but I’m sure he was thinking that.
So it’s your fault, you mental cripple, that you haven’t been paying attention to what your president says.
Why are you scolding us?
Now that we have real threats in the world, what are we going to do now?
What threats? Are you trying to say that Toledo is in danger of being over run by the Iranians? That North Korea is fixing to swarm us?
I would love to hear you voice your fears and worries for all of us to be party to.
Tell us how you are fraught with fear over the Hermit Dickhead’s 40 second, where will it land wonder.
By candide
July 10, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this
Ma! Quanti fascisti qui!
By @@
July 10, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this
Ma! Quanti fascisti qui!
Zero, “Zero”.
By randall flagg
July 10, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
What threats? Are you trying to say that Toledo is in danger of being over run by the Iranians? That North Korea is fixing to swarm us?
As opposed to Iraq, which was clearly threatening to overrun Toledo and otherwise swarm all over us.
Not.
What a moranic thing to say.
By w00t
July 10, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
What threats? Are you trying to say that Toledo is in danger of being over run by the Iranians? That North Korea is fixing to swarm us?
Oh, but according to Bush Iraq WAS going to over us and send bad people to the US cause they were a direct threat to the US, which has all been proven to be wrong.
Now we have countries that could posses the technology to send WMD’s to the US. Maybe they might feel the need to sell their tech to terrorist? Iraq never posed a threat to the US and its allies like North Korea is now
Andy, or whatever you go by today, you never answer a question. All you do is throw up a smoke screen and pray that no one will see through your BS and lies. I ask legitimate questions about Iraq and you respond with a comment about Atlanta.
Try thinking for yourself sometime.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this
Just cut and run like Daddy
By getalife
July 10, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this
We are overun by morans here
By randall flagg
July 10, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
For George Bush and his co-conspirators, screaming “wolf! wolf” and “the sky is falling” about Iraq is a brilliant way to spread irrational fear among Americans.
Meanwhile they dismiss Iran and North Korea as merely annoying.
Here’s their real agenda
And the Bush lemmings follows blindly.
By Zeus
July 10, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this
At last!! An explanation for the homophobes here!!
repressed homosexual urges may be at the root of homophobic behavior by heterosexual men. - Psychiatric News
This explains a LOT!!
By Michigan export
July 10, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this
I can’t believe all the Arab and Muslim bashing here. People think that Muslims here are all conspiring to make bombs. You present the arrests of 7 idiots in Miami as proof. They weren’t Muslims, and they had no plan, yet it’s heralded as proof that “they” are not only out to get us, but actually have a chance of winning. What bunk.
I live in the Detroit area, which has the largest population of Arab Muslims in the country. Although this may not be scientific, it seems to me as if the Muslims in the US are a lot better assimilated than elsewhere. They seem to be too busy making money, getting their kids through school, and supporting relatives abroad to become extremists. The real target of their anger seems to be Israel. Once in a while you’ll hear about a terrorist financing ring being broken up, but it’s always for either Hamas or Hezbollah. The US Army freely recruits in Arab neighborhoods, and no one seems to mind. They don’t seem inclined to turn against their country.
Stop tilting at windmiulls, fools. You are letting the hate from the White House scramble your brains.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
Here is their other agenda
By Smoke This
July 10, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
By randall flagg July 10, 2006 11:04 AM What threats? Are you trying to say that Toledo is in danger of being over run by the Iranians? That North Korea is fixing to swarm us? As opposed to Iraq, which was clearly threatening to overrun Toledo and otherwise swarm all over us.
So what are you liberals all freaked out about, exactly? What’s up with the cartoon?^^ If Bush is talking, you should be happy, right, psycho?
What a stupid thing to say, indeed.
By w00t July 10, 2006 11:06 AM Andy, or whatever you go by today, you never answer a question. All you do is throw up a smoke screen
I would love to go by the name Andy but there are too many immature liberals in this blog primed to throw up a “smoke screen” using that name.
Counting soldier’s deaths is in effect a “smoke screen” all in itself, and I don’t feel like playing that game. We should all be grown up enough to realize that we have enemies and that our soldiers are going to die protecting us from them. The terrorists have already proven that they can kill more of our innocent women and children then they can our soldiers.
This shouldn’t have to be said but I am dealing with liberals, so here it goes: Our soldiers are killing ridiculously high amounts of terrorists in Iraq, which should be thought of as a good thing, after all a dead terrorist is harmless.
Our innocent women and children aren’t equipped to kill terrorists, so why do you liberals want to get them involved?
It’s kind of sick, your obsession to bring the war home to us.
By Now That's The Spirit
July 10, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this
TOKYO (AP) - Japan said Monday it was considering whether a pre-emptive strike on the North’s missile bases would violate its constitution, signaling a hardening stance ahead of a possible U.N. Security Council vote on Tokyo’s proposal for sanctions against the regime.
By gadem
July 10, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this
get, that link was very disturbing. Sad as hell that the girl was only 14. All of this bloodshed is on the hands of W, and anyone else that supports this war. People like Andy don’t understand the consequences of war. Their answer to everything is “Just drop the bomb on them”.
By Export this Detroit
July 10, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this
Wrong! I have quite a few muslim friends. I have them over for neighborhood gatherings. You’re generalizing the right, which makes you guilty of your own accusations.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this
gadem,
Yes, Mr. Murtha has been right all along and they are having their civil war. It will get worse before we finally leave.
By RW-(the original)
July 10, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this
Michigan export,
What are you reading? Yours is the 32nd comment and not a single comment preceding you from either side is doing any Muslim bashing and nobody has presented the Miami group at all for any reason.
Do you have some other motivation behind lying about the nature of the commentary here? It would seem that you are either with CAIR and trying to silence any mention of terror or you are just trying to incite Muslim hatred.
By randall flagg
July 10, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this
Scores killed by roving gunmen in Baghdad over the weekend. At least 10 more in a bomb today.
Sure, Baghdad’s safer than Atlanta. If you’re an American.
Because if you’re an American commander in Iraq, you’ve got a new plan.
You hunker down in safe little enclaves, visit your PizzaHuts and Starbucks and watch the fireworks from a distance.
Successful counterinsurgency operations require troops to go out among the people, gathering intelligence and building goodwill. But few Iraqis are allowed on these bases, and few Americans are allowed out — and then only in forbidding armored convoys.
Most of our resources aren’t going to fight terrorists but to maintain a smattering of mini-Americas in the Middle East. As one Special Forces officer pungently put it to me: “The only function that thousands of people are performing out here is to turn food into {excrement}.”
And of course this is all Bill Clinton’s fault.
By randall flagg
July 10, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this
Smoke this, the concept of sarcasm clearly escapes you. Let me explain. Iraq was NOT threatening to overrun Toledo. Get it?
War hath no fury like a noncombatant.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this
“I’m not sure what this Congress has accomplished,” said Dick Armey, the former House Republican leader who is now with FreedomWorks, which advocates lower taxes and less government.
When you are this bad at your job, you will get fired or out of business.
By finch's head
July 10, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this
r flagg: I think I’ll try this name today so I can mock the flag again.
finch: But they figured out it was me last week.
randall flagg: OK I’ll make it look like a name instead
finch: Good one! Then we can link to the same places and use exactly the same writing traits without them noticing
seeker: Why won’t you let me at these damn Republiscum anymore?
finch: Shut up seeker, you got us into this mess to begin with.
By Michigan export
July 10, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
Michigan export, What are you reading?
What makes you think this is my first time visiting this hysterical site? Of course, you’re jumping to conclusions, like all the other Muslim bashers here.
By So Now We Want Americans To Die, Sigh, Yawn
July 10, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this
By randall flagg July 10, 2006 11:42 AM Sure, Baghdad’s safer than Atlanta. If you’re an American.
Freaking liberals, nothing makes them happy. What a bunch of sorry spiteful little whiners, hating everything they see, abusing themselves for pleasure.
F’kn freaks.
By RW-(the original)
July 10, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this
Michigan expert,
I don’t care if you’ve read this site every day from it’s inception, you won’t find rampant Muslim bashing.
So again, what’s your agenda here?
By w00t
July 10, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this
Smoke, the problem is, you’re NEVER going to get rid of terrorist. NEVER. End of story. There are all forms of terrorist everywhere, whether it be Christian terrorist or Islamic terrorist. So as many as you kill the more will pop up.
People are upset that our troops are dying because nothing is being done in Iraq. There has been no progress in this war on terror, or was it to remove a brutal dictator? No wait… it was for WMD’s. Sorry I always forget what this war was about because the story has changed some many times. The fact is Americans are upset that their troops are dying for a war that they do not agree on anymore.
Once we removed Saddam from Iraq it created this huge vacuum in the country for the terrorist in the world to flock to. This vacuum also paved the way for the secular violence we are seeing across the country as different political and religious groups fight for power. It was this that Bush was not planning on. He thought he could just go into the country, find WMD’s (That were never there) to justify the removal of Saddam, set up a new democracy and leave. Things just do not work that way. We’re not fighting terrorist, but a war on ideas. It may be easy to kill people, but it is very hard to kill their ideas. The more we kill the more will come and the more their ideas to them will be justified.
And because my questions haven’t been answered I’ll ask them again. If we’ve made progress, what is it then? Is it that we’ve created another place for terrorist to come and kill our troops? Are we making progress when Iraqis are fighting each other? Are we making progress that there were no WMD’s? What am I missing? Was this spending billion’s of dollars on this war justified? Iraq, however, is not what this cartoon was about, so let me get back on subject. North Korea and Iran are the true threats of the world. I do not think anyone can deny that. If they can, then they surely are lost.
By Let Me Show You How A Liberal Would Do This
July 10, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this
Michigan export: I have somewhat of a feeling that you aren’t being very sincere but I’ll overlook that.
11:38 is a liberal trying to imitate me but they are actually showing their true colors for us. Let me use the example of homosexuals to illustrate my point:
Typical liberal-“Some of my best friends are homos. I even have homos in my family, I think. I’m proud to be associated with homos. I’m better than red state neanderthals, like that fa-ggot Andy, because I like homos.”
Welcome to America, man!
By Come Out From Under The Bed, Dude
July 10, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this
By w00t July 10, 2006 12:01 PM Smoke, the problem is, you’re NEVER going to get rid of terrorist. NEVER. End of story. There are all forms of terrorist everywhere, whether it be Christian terrorist or Islamic terrorist. So as many as you kill the more will pop up.People are upset that our troops are dying because nothing is being done in Iraq
Saddam isn’t killing 100,000 Iraqis a year, terrorist attacks worldwide have dropped to nearly nothing, Bin Laden is nutured and hiding in a cave, the United States has not had 3000 people slaughtered in our streets again.
Judge the results however you want to, looney.
You have your milestones, I have mine.
By gadem
July 10, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
Andy, do you actually read the crap that you write? You might want to check RW, because he has this “man-love” thing for you. What ever you say, he agrees and strokes your n-u-t-s-a-c-k even more. Andy you are the most socially ignorant person on this blog, and I feel ashamed that you might actually interact with people.
By w00t
July 10, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this
Saddam isn’t killing 100,000 Iraqis a year, terrorist attacks worldwide have dropped to nearly nothing, Bin Laden is nutured and hiding in a cave, the United States has not had 3000 people slaughtered in our streets again.
For all the BS stories you post, do you have any true facts to back up these claims? I guess as long as the terrorism stays inside Iraq then it doesn’t count.
I also think that it is a compete shame that we have stopped looking for Bin Laden. He was the WHOLE reason why we’re in this situation in the first place. He should have been the ONLY priority from the beginning, not Iraq.
By w00t
July 10, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this
Do attacks like this not count as terrorism
These attacks occur on a daily basis.
That’s right Andy, keep waving that 9/11 flag everywhere you go. Keep believing that you need to live under that rock. We’re almost five years after 9-11, it’s time to move on. You need to think in current events.
By @@
July 10, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this
This kind of familiar atrocity bothers a conservative for all the “right” reasons.
“The women brought kitchen utensils and clothes for their children. They thought they were going on a trip,” said Ariana Fernandez, an anthropologist in the cultural objects section.
I thought the world said “Never again!” Hitler’s ideology ^^^. He was So-Damn-Insane.
How convenient it is for liberals to forget this but hang on like a door with a broken hinge to Vietnam.
By gadem
July 10, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this
Andy, How many times have there been an attack of the magnitude of 9/11 on American Soil. I doubt Bush had anything to do with there not being any in the 5 years following 9/11. I am almost sure that there will be another attack on American soil. An contrary to that crap that you spew, terrorist attacks have increased worldwide. Please research information before you spew what you have heard on your beloved talk radio.
By Mark
July 10, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this
Lets just see how the republicans try to pretend this cartoon isnt spot-on.
Even they know that if we werent in Iraq, digging up 30 year-old degraded “weapons of mass destruction”, we would have a lot more leverage in dealing with a real threat.
This is a textbook example of why its important to go to war only when necessary. Now that weve lost the trust of most of the world, we truly have little room to maneuver on this one.
By gadem
July 10, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this
@@, what makes Bush any different than Sadaam?
By Mike
July 10, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this
gadem, do you really think Bush and Saddam are the same? If you do it really shows how blindly partisan you are.
By RW-(the original)
July 10, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this
gadem,
See if this helps you any.
BAGHDAD — Pictures of dead Iraqis, with their necks slashed, their eyes gouged out and their genitals blackened, fill a bookshelf. Jail cells, with dried blood on the floor and rusted shackles bolted to the walls, line the corridors. And the screams of what could be imprisoned men in an underground detention center echo through air shafts and sewer pipes.
It’s even from a moonbat approved source.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this
The question is:
Is Iraq better now or better with Saddam in power?
It is sad that I have to even ask that question?
By Midori
July 10, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this
gadem, do you really think Bush and Saddam are the same?
If Gadem doesn’t mind, I’d like to tackle this.
well, for starters, when Saddam ran the county it wasn’t the hell hole that it is now. the country had running water. electricity. prosperity.
oh yeah — almost forgot. Saddam speaks better English.
By gadem
July 10, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this
Mike please explain to me how they are not. They both are responsible for countless deaths of innocent people. The only difference is that Dubya plays dumb about what is going on. Mike that is reality, I know reality is kind of hard for you to face, because if you did, your entire world would probably crash down around you.
By @@
July 10, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this
gadem:
I’m truly not surprised by your question. You are definitely confused when it comes to who’s right and who’s wrong. I’ll clear it up for you….you’re not only wrong, but stupid to even make that comparison.
By Midori
July 10, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this
I see RW is describing the prisons and conditions in Iraq under occupation management.
what I don’t get is his point.
By Mike
July 10, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this
Midori, your claim that when Saddam ran the country they had running water and electricity is patently false. Obviously you don’t understand that he cut off whole Shi’a cities from having electricity and even indoor plumbing. Check out Sadr City on google and see how they were living when Saddam was in power. Who had prosperity when Saddam ran the country? Him and his cronies? Your arguements show that you are blindled by your ideological views.
By I Know What Gadem Is Hoping
July 10, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this
By gadem July 10, 2006 12:34 PM I am almost sure that there will be another attack on American soil.
Truly sick, you liberals are.
By w00t July 10, 2006 12:25 PM Saddam isn’t killing 100,000 Iraqis a year, terrorist attacks worldwide have dropped to nearly nothing, Bin Laden is nurtured and hiding in a cave, the United States has not had 3000 people slaughtered in our streets again. For all the BS stories you post, do you have any true facts to back up these claims?
How about if we try it this way, you prove me wrong, I’ll help you:
Saddam isn’t killing 100,000 Iraqis a year
So how many is he not killing anymore, you tell me. Zero? 50,000? Are you one of those kooks that think it’s better to have him in power?
terrorist attacks worldwide have dropped to nearly nothing
Hey, at least you admit the terrorists are the ones killing women and children in Iraq instead of United States soldiers, there’s hope for you. It’s slim but it is something.
Where’s a better place to have the terrorists assemble and practice their evil works? You yourself said that there will be terrorism no matter what we do, so why not beckon them to Iraq where the 3rd Infantry Division lurks and is blowing them away by the thousands? What, pray tell, could possibly be wrong with that?
Would you rather have them detonating themselves in your neighborhood? If so, then speak for yourself, looney. Call me old fashion and maybe selfish but LET THE IRAQIS DEAL WITH THEIR PROBLEM IN IRAQ.
It ain’t Canadians blowing themselves up, you stroke, it’s ARAB MALES.
Bin Laden is nurtured and hiding in a cave
I will admit, he is serving a purpose from deep inside his bat infested hiding place. He keeps the morale of you liberals high enough so that you don’t get tired of waiting for him and put on the suicide vests yourselves.
I’d be willing to bet you liberals would do far more damage then Al Qaeda ever has.
Other than that, where’s the beef? Hahahaha.
the United States has not had 3000 people slaughtered in our streets again.
So our you from the gadem school of thought, that maybe that’s true but there’s hope?
I would hope you aren’t.
By Mike
July 10, 2006 01:10 PM | Link to this
gadem, Saddam was directly responsible for the killing of innocent people. He personally murdered them. Yes innocent people have been killed during the war, but to compare Saddam and Bush that way is intellectually dishonest. I will be the first to admit that Bush has made many mistakes in his handling of the Iraq war and I don’t mind honest debate of the war. What kills me is the vocal minority on the far left that spews inaccurate information and refuses to engage in honest debate. This is evident by your comment that my world might come crashing in around me. Maybe if you got off of your high horse and started to realize that you don’t have all the answers you wouldn’t be such a miserable person.
By gadem
July 10, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this
RW in your effort to defend your mindless leader, you have totally missed the point. My point is that with Sadamm not in power, the same atrocities have occured under Bush because of the haven that he has created for the terrorist. So how is Bush different from Sadaam?
By @@
July 10, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this
Gee Midori, I guess you place great value on running water & electricity. I guess Saddam got to choose who would enjoy that prosperity. Those poor women and children in that “mass grave” weren’t given that opportunity.
I guess you’re a lot like Saddam, you get to pick and choose.
Nice!
By gadem
July 10, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this
Andy, Sadaam may not be killing 100,000 Iraqi’s a year, but Bush is d-a-m-n close to matching his total.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this
LET THE IRAQIS DEAL WITH THEIR PROBLEM IN IRAQ.
I see that you are on board with Murtha’s plan.
There is hope for you after all but very slim at best.
They have no idea where OBL is, could be Pakistan, Sudan, Somalia, etc… and W does not care.
He will leave the mess to the next administration.
By Mike
July 10, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this
gadem, please show us how Bush is close to killing 100,000 Iraqi’s. I would love to know where you get your info from.
By RW-(the original)
July 10, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this
midori,
Just because I linked to a USA Today story it doesn’t literally mean it was today, sweetie.
gadem,
Actually I think this new theory of yours is a good one for you politically. I think you should encourage Democrats to march in the streets comparing President Bush to Saddam Hussein. After all it worked so well when you tried comparing him to Hitler.
By w00t
July 10, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this
Show me an article that says Saddam was killing 100,000 Iraqis per year. I call BS on this one.
Also, the “problem” you are talking about is one that we created for the Iraqi people. I wouldn’t say that is just terrorist doing the killing in Iraq, but also by different religious groups. I guess by your school of thought, its okay that we’ve passed on terrorism to Iraq so long as our women and children are dying. “Oh, only Iraqi women and children are dying in suicide blasts while they were at the market. It’s not big deal”
The main idea is: we the United States have caused this problem in Iraq. We got hit by a few hornets at first then we kicked in the nest and now all hell has broken lose. Our country is responsible for the state that Iraq is currently in. Is that some thing you can accept?
By Answer This, Loser
July 10, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this
By gadem July 10, 2006 01:18 PM Andy, Sadaam may not be killing 100,000 Iraqi’s a year, but Bush is d-a-m-n close to matching his total.
If Bush is the one detonating himself and killing all these people, how many lives does he have?
Shouldn’t the first suicide bombing put an end to the Bush menace?
By RW-(the original)
July 10, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this
Mike,
Trust me on this one. You really don’t want to visit the places that gadem gets this crap.
By @@
July 10, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this
M-o-o-b-a-t-s…i-n…s-p-a-c-e !!!
Poo-pooing on “Discovery”.
By The Moderate Voice
July 10, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this
getalife, the problem with Murtha and the far left’s plan to withdraw immediatley is that they have no plan for what is left in Iraq. Are they comfortable with letting Iraq become a terrorist haven like Afghanistan? That is the problem with that plan they haven’t thought it out past the political rhetoric of getting our troops out.
By @@
July 10, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this
Put an “n” in Moonbats.
By RW-(the original)
July 10, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this
@@,
Maybe it was the cows from Nicole’s previous post that had you mooing. Now that you’ve fixed it you’re not going to start mooning us are you?
By I Wasn't There, But
July 10, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this
Here’s a good place to start:
Those who survived inside Iraq, and those who watched helplessly from abroad, have joined together to begin the long, painful process of accounting for the dead. British Prime Minister Tony Blair said on November 20, 2003, that as many as 400,000 Iraqis lie in these mass graves.-USAid
Like I said, a good place to start.
How many weren’t buried in mass graves?
How many died when he drained the marshes?
How many died in human wave assaults against the Iranians?
How can you bury something that gets blown up or fed into a wood chipper feet first?
I need to revise my number upwards.
Let’s call it 200,000 per year.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this
Voice,
Are you sure you read the plan?
to immediately redeploy U.S. troops consistent with the safety of U.S. forces;
to create a quick reaction force in the region;
to create an over-the-horizon presence of Marines;
4.to diplomatically pursue security and stability in Iraq.
We trained draftees for Korean War combat in 16 weeks. Iraqis have had two years to start doing their own dying.
By AntiRadical
July 10, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this
Good toon, ML. Uncle Sam as the Gulliver giant tied down by the Lilliputians in Iraq leaving North Korea as an unfettered child playing with dangerous fireworks. Nice layering of ideas that are painfully appropriate.
Good discussion topic by getalife. I think, at present, the life of the average Iraqi citizen is worse than was enjoyed under Hussein. Infrastructure remains unrepaired and atrocities such as rapes and murders that were carried out by Sadaam’s deginerate sons have now apparently been committed by over-deployed American troops. This does not bode well for long term Iraqi acceptance of our efforts.
In the longer term, however, I think any reasonable person would have to say that the potential for a vastly superior life than was possible under Hussein for the average Iraqi citizen is undeniable. If the Iraqis can adapt their society and compromise religious frictions, they have been gifted with an opportunity for freedom.
If the Iraqis truely seize this opportunity I would say that the entire effort has been worth the cost and that life for the average Iraqi citizen would be greatly improved. I remain skeptical but hopeful that the Iraqi population will indeed step up to the plate. At this time, I think the effort is worth the benfit of doubt (until November anyway). Let’s keep our fingers crossed for substantial improvement of the ground situation.
By The Moderate Voice
July 10, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this
getalife, obviously you didn’t see Murtha’s performance on Meet the Press where he stammered over where to stage the QRF. That is what I am talking about. He mentioned Japan. Japan? Not very quick. Keep in mind that when we trained recruits for the Korean War we had had an Army in place for almost 200 years and just fought WW 2 meaning we had an abundance of well trained cadre to prepare those recruits. The Iraqi’s are starting from ground zero. I think we should get out of Iraq as soon as possible and I think most of our troops will be gone by the end of next year, however we can’t just leave in the next two months and hope the Iraqi government can sustain itself. As they say in the Army Hope is not a method and that is what Murtha’s plan is based on.
By The Moderate Voice
July 10, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this
anti-radical, pretty good post. It is refreshing to see someone not just repost ideological talking points. I too think the Iraqi’s will enjoy a standard of living much higher than under Saddam soon. I think their government will take hold and succeed. However, your degrading remark about the troops replacing Saddam’s sons is in bad taste. It has happened once and is apparently an isolated incident, not like under Saddam/
By Ricky
July 10, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this
For those that say tax cuts don’t work to stimulate the economy. The federal buget this year will be $260 billion down from $413 billion in 2004. Tax receipts were up 12.8% from the same time in 2005. But you would never know from the MSM and the left.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this
Voice,
He is talking about air attacks.
Hope is not a method
Do you think “stay the course” is hoping the Iraqi government will get their act together?
By @@
July 10, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this
AntiR, always hopeful. I appreciate that quality in a person. Hope is never blind. It’s what drives a person to achieve something positive.
Thanks AntiR.
By What A Loser, Putz
July 10, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this
By AntiRadical July 10, 2006 01:53 PM Infrastructure remains unrepaired and atrocities such as rapes and murders that were carried out by Sadaam’s deginerate sons have now apparently been committed by over-deployed American troops.
Talk about highlighting your total lack of seriousness, after saying something as ridiculous as this how can anything else this bozo says not be looked upon as a joke?:
The record is replete with detailed accounts of Uday Hussein’s atrocities. He was said to have maintained a torture chamber in his elaborate palace and another, more secret one in a secluded spot along the banks of the Tigris River, a testimony to barbarity in the cradle of civilization. And he used it. As the head of the Iraqi Olympic team he reportedly tortured athletes who failed to perform to his standards. Even in the brutalized nation of Iraq, where a man could be beaten by the secret police for simply allowing a bill with Saddam’s picture on it to drop to the ground, Uday Hussein was considered extreme.
By @@
July 10, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this
Hope can be contagious, it inspires. I love it.
By The Moderate Voice
July 10, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this
getalife, so you are okay with just leaving Iraq and hoping they can get their act together. Like I said before that doesn’t work. The talking point of “stay the course” is false. It was created by the Dems in congress who were hoping to score political points. While there were many errors made early on, the forces over there have gotten their act together. They are concentrating on building up the Iraqi forces. If you haven’t noticed over 40% of Baghdad is now patrolled by Iraqi forces solely. Progress is being made. It is slow? Yes it is. But it is working.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this
Ricky,
I guess you do not read the paper because they did cover it. Front page of the NY Times, does that count?
By @@
July 10, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this
RW:
Your dessert is waiting at the sandwich shop. It’s delicious.
By Ricky
July 10, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this
getalife, nope I missed it on the NY Times. My bad. At least the left is admitting that the economy is booming right along and tax cuts are good for the economy.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this
Voice,
Lets see, over the weekend, Colin Powell said we will leave a civil war. It seems to me you have not mentioned civil war. Try google civil war in Iraq.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this
Ricky,
Speaking of the economy, what do you think of this project?.
By The Moderate Voice
July 10, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this
getalife, I don’t believe there is a civil war in Iraq right now. By definition a civil war would involve the capturing of lands held by the other side. That is not happening. While there is an inordinate amount of violence between the sects, but the Iraqi government is attempting to quell this. You however are making my point for me. If we leave now we will leave Iraq in a precarious position. That is why we need to conitue to build up their forces to secure their government.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this
Sorry voice,
I only deal with non partisan reality.
I believe a civil war is going on and will continue to go on whether we are there or not.
By @@
July 10, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this
Ouch Getalife, did proving Moderate’s point hurt. I have a bandaid for your boo boo. :)
By The Moderate Voice
July 10, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this
getalife, I am not espousing any particular political view, just my opinion. My whole arguement begin with the question of whether you care or not about what is left in Iraq if we pull out in the next two months. Are you comfortable with leaving Iraq as a terrorist haven?
By rushncap
July 10, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this
No one is saying the tax cuts were good, Ricky. By that measure, since during Clinton years the economy was the best it’s been in decades, his fiscal policy was far superior to any that the Republicans ever proposed.
Moderate voice: Wikipedia defines civil war as “a war in which parties within the same culture, society or nationality fight for political power or control of an area.” If that does not fit what’s going on in Iraq to a tee, I’m not sure what does. It’s not to the level of the American Civil War in terms of casualty levels, but that does not have to be the benchmark.
By RW-(the original)
July 10, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
@@,
I saw that and I can’t quite figure out how to respond to it. I think you win the great sandwich debate. Congratulations!
By RW-(the original)
July 10, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this
By getalife I only deal with non partisan reality.
SPEW!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good one getalife.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this
voice,
The civil war in Iraq is about built up hatred for revenge. They will get their revenge no matter what we do.
I am very uncomfortable of the original reason of the WMD threat that never materialized. This brings hatred towards us and can promote the terrorists agenda.
By Ricky
July 10, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this
rushncap, if you can take your partisan blinders off for a moment you will remember that tax cuts were a major part of the Clinton economy. Also don’t forget they were proposed and pushed by the contract with America and the Republican take over of Congress.
By @@
July 10, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this
RW:
So that’s like, what, RW 10 pts. @@ 1 pt. What can I say…I’ll try to make something with the breadcrumbs. @—
By The Moderate Voice
July 10, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this
rushncap, most of the violence committed by the Shi’a and Sunni against each other are revenge motivated. The Shi’a due to being repressed for so many years and the Sunni’s responding to that violence. So if you want to call that civil war then that is fine. However, I don’t think it fits the definition your provided.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this
oo,
This guy thinks civil war in Iraq is over land. I guess he did not decide to google civil war in Iraq.
By RW-(the original)
July 10, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this
Give me five minutes and I can have Wikipedia defining Civil War as a feisty game of tidily winks.
By The Moderate Voice
July 10, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this
getalife, you still haven’t answered my first question and I think that is because you are not comfortable with the answer you are proposing either.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this
Ricky,
You should go back and read the contract with America and see how much of it is true today.
By rushncap
July 10, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this
So then you are admitting, Ricky, that Clinton’s fiscal policy was far superior to Bush’s, since it produced much better results?
RW, I give you 5,000 minutes. Go to town. If you have nothing worthwhile to say, give your fingers a rest.
By @@
July 10, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
Getalife:
By definition, which RW will find, what Iraq is going through is not a civil war. I read an article about it from a Middle Eastern columnist.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this
@@,
You sound like Clinton.
“It depends on what your definition of is, is.”
Lets call it sectarian violence.
This is not traditional war.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this
voice,
I do not know what the terrorists will do. Do you?
By AntiRadical
July 10, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this
Moderate Voice- I didn’t mean to imply that the few incidents that have occurred by American troops were systematic. I view them as abberations attributable to the small percentage of abnormals present in any population and to over deployment.
If my remark was degrading the focus was not on the troops as a whole but only on the individuals who may have committed atrocities. These abberants are no more indicative of the character of members of the armed forces than they are of any American (including myself).
In corollary, I do not believe that the actions of Hussein’s sons were indicative of the character of Iraqi citizens either; they were, also, aberrants.
The difficulty I referred to, though, is one of perception. What does the average Iraqi think of these actions? Are they able to discern that these actions are the work of aberrant personalities or will they brand all of Western society as aberrant?
I would have thought the later 6 months ago; now, I see some hope that the Iraqis are indeed making efforts to secure themselves and working to become independent. Their perception of Americans and our values is key to success of the new Iraqi government in my opinion.
The isolated incidents, while statistically irrelevant, may eclipse all the good efforts of 99.9999999999% of coalition forces. That is what is so troubling about the latest rape/murder case.
Haditha may be more deserving of understanding or forgiveness (heat of battle) and, thereby, more recoverable. However, the recent preplanned rape/murder incident is so vile that it could be the single shot that loses us the entire war. I hope that is not the case, but in the end it is the Iraqi citizenry that will decide, not us. Let’s hope that they remain more open minded and understanding than any of us might be if it were our own daughter involved.
By RW-(the original)
July 10, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this
Did rushncap just throw in with the STFU crowd?
rushncap,
When you have the time would you mind explaining why the Clinton fiscal policy consisted of taking office with a rapidly growing economy and leaving office with the country going into recession? Thank you in advance for your thoughtful and reasoned response.
By @@
July 10, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this
Absolutely Getalife. This is not a war in “traditional terms” and that is why it has everyone so confused. It’s an “asymmetric war”.
I read a paper on that. See, while everybody is a fussin’ I’m a readin’.
By randall flagg
July 10, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this
Nicholas Eberstadt of the American Enterprise Institute wrote in The Wall Street Journal after North Korea’s missile tests last week that North Korea had achieved more “strategic successes” under the Bush administration than it had under President Clinton.
This weekend in The Weekly Standard, William Kristol, another prominent conservative voice, wrote: “The red lines, pink lines, and mauve lines of U.S. foreign policy seem increasingly to be written in erasable ink. What was ‘unacceptable’ to President Bush a week ago (a North Korean missile launch) has been accepted.” He called the current policy “Clintonian.”
Curses. Foiled again.
randall flagg
By AntiRadical
July 10, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this
Andy- Your 2:12 only defines your lack of objectivity. Unfortunately, it is pretty clear that atrocities have been committed by our troops. There are reported confessions and eye witness accounts by our own soldiers. You are right about one thing, though. I do not consider this blog to be a “serious” endeavor. I am aware of the fact that it appears to consume your every waking moment, and I am sorry that your life is so shallow and purposeless.
By Like I Said, A Joke
July 10, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this
By AntiRadical July 10, 2006 03:14 PM However, the recent preplanned rape/murder incident is so vile that it could be the single shot that loses us the entire war.
I have no beef with the “vile” description but the chances of this incident shutting down the war on terror are just about as much as finch’s full recovery from insanity.
It ain’t gonna happen.
Worse sh-it has happened right here at home, by far, and we seemed to have recovered quite nicely.
The United States is not being run by a bunch of squishy little liberals in the throws of overwhelming guilt trips.
Thank goodness for that.
By AntiRadical
July 10, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this
Andy- Your 3:30 again defines your lack of objectivity and your questionable judgement. Your certainty that this incident is minor in implication is illogical. You might be correct but you (or I) simply have no basis to predict one way or the other.
By Midori
July 10, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this
a non traditional war waged by a less than traditional “president”
By Midori
July 10, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
For Getalife
:)
By Oh Poor Little AntiRadical
July 10, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this
Did I hurt uew wittle fweelings?
People that post 10 paragraph manifestos have no basis to be calling other posters “shallow.”
Especially when hurt feelings causes them to go personal at the drop of a hat.
Get ahold of yourself, man.
By AntiRadical July 10, 2006 03:29 PM Andy-Your 2:12 only defines your lack of objectivity. Unfortunately, it is pretty clear that atrocities have been committed by our troops.
I sure would like to know when these soldiers were convicted of the crimes that you speak of. Care to tell me?
Seems to me that the Haditha accusations are coming apart at the seams and the U.S. troops involved will soon be cleared of any wrong doing. This should come as no surprise, to those who believe in America anyway, as the original “witness” to the crime was probably an enemy, like yourself, never willing to believe that we are the greatest and most blessed people on the face of the Earth.
It isn’t like we’ve freed all kinds of countries down through history, freed them from tyranny, only asking for a place to bury are dead in return.
No, the games you and Al Qaeda play are games for cowards to partake in. It is easy to sit around and judge the world, never giving praise to those protecting you but instead stabbing them in the back with your constant negativity and false accusations.
So run with your crowd, junior.
I’ll run with mine.
By Midori
July 10, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this
Andy’s crowd
By getalife
July 10, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this
Good one Midori :)
Try clicking play on this one.
By @@
July 10, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this
Gee Midori, for some reason I was thinking you might be taller than that. Take your lid off, I’ll bet you’re very attractive under that dix gallons.
By AntiRadical
July 10, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
Andy- Well, your 3:48 now appears delusional. You occupy about as much of my thought process as a blade of grass; you certainly have no effect on my feelings, so flame away.
Apparently my observation of your lack of objectivity and obsessive preoccupation with what is afterall only a blog has struck a nerve. This blog appears to be your drug of choice and sadly, that is a very shallow life indeed (not personal, just an observation).
Addictive personalities such as yours always react negatively to suggestions that they have a problem. You seriously should seek professional help but it’s your life; wallow in it if you choose to. It’s your party and you’ll cry if you want to, right?
By You Have To Play Hardball
July 10, 2006 04:28 PM | Link to this
For those Americans who can’t understand the potentially self-destructive behavior of Iran, North Korea, and the Palestinians, try thinking about the world as high school.
There are the cool kids, the popular ones with good grades and generally with money and status, who are the athletes, cheerleaders and yearbook editors. They are the ones going to the good colleges with bright futures.
Then, there are the alienated kids. They don’t do well in school, have bad habits and reek of frustration that no one respects them. These kids sometimes get violent toward perceived enemies, even when common sense tells even them they are cruising for a bruising.
Well, if the industrialized world and those nations aspiring to join that group - much like the kid from the wrong side of the tracks who strives to succeed - are the “in crowd,” guess what that makes Iran, North Korea and the Palestinians?
[* That is a dangerous situation, not just for the three nations, but the rest of the world.
Kind of like the alienated high school student who brings a gun to school to make a statement. It isn’t rational, but those things happen to adolescents, sometimes with dire consequences. - RealClearPolitics
Get the picture pinkos? You can’t negotiate with these freaks. We have to treat them like the permanent subhumans that they are.
That means playing along with them until we’re ready to blast them. And thats just what we’re doing.
Any questions?
By B.S.
July 10, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this
The problem with this cartoon is how accurate it is - we are so bogged down in Iraq that we do not have the capability to deal with another major issue. I don’t understand why we don’st send another 150,000 troops into Iraq and lock it down. This would provide stability and allow the rebuilding process to speed up, so we could get out. Pulling troops out now is insane, it would reflect a total loss of fortitude and subject hundreds of thousands of Iraqui’s to gross secterian violence. We are well beyond the war on terror, this is about stabilization in the mideast. Rumsfield needs to stop saving face and move a lot more troops in NOW, to quell the violence and preserve and rest our military for storms that are appearing on the horizon.
By The Stopper
July 10, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this
This blog really needs to impose a character and line return limit.
Really, really needs to.
By Well Thank You AR
July 10, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this
*By AntiRadical July 10, 2006 04:05 Andy- Well, your 3:48 now appears delusional.
Thank you very much for your affirmation of my abilities. One of my tried and tested theories in life is that what ever a liberal says you can pretty much count on the exact opposite to be true.
So in the 124 words you directed at my “inconsequential being,” your virtual declaration of surrender and voluntary servitude, you have all but admitted that I have struck so close to your home that you have to dismiss me off hand to save any face at all.
It’s a tactic readily employed by those who have no other defenses, like maybe proving me wrong with some facts, haha, especially if you are so sure of your position.
Which I’m pretty sure your not. It may have seemed like a good idea to a simpleton like you to gain favor on this blog by denouncing our soldiers the way you did, but I have refocused your easily aimed attention on reality, which, of course, represents the majority of thought in the United States of America.
That would also be the reason that I pay attention to this blog, and by the way, I’m flattered that you have noticed. I feel that if I can change one mind from thinking with the crowd, and maybe keep them from jumping off the cliff too, I’ve accomplished far more than you ever will warming up to these perverts.
You must attach some importance to this blog, after all, what good excuse do you have for these 10 paragraph proclamations that you post?
By The Stopper
July 10, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this
You sound like Clinton.
Interestingly, a clear majority of Americans would consider that a compliment. Most folks wish they could articulate ideas as splendidly as our 42nd President could do (and still does), at will.
Just as a majority would consider “you sound like Bush” to be a cruel taunt. I can’t think of anyone I’ve met who wants to come of sounding like the Preznit of Dumf*ckistan.
By Ralph
July 10, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this
Once again the U.S. demonstrates the depths to which it has plunged. Right-wing upbringings that produce recent generations with no ethics, no discipline, no compassion, no sense. So-called “crack” troops desert their posts in the middle of a combat zone in order to rape and murder. It’s getting to be a habit. Worry not - there WILL be convictions.
By seems to me
July 10, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this
That you are the alienated freak kid from high school. I worry that you might someday emerge from your hole and go on a rampage killing all sorts of “pinkos” in the name of freedom and democracy. I can’t believe you described yourself to a tee without even realizing it. How ironic.
ps. the world is not high school. most people do this thing called growing up. You should try it sometime. How many of the “cool kids” from high school actually become a success, anyway? Most our athletes and such did not even graduate, much less go to college. And yes, despite your asinine claims, even the athletes and the cheerleaders and the yearbook editor and the newspaper editor can be alienated and mistreated. My wife and I were, but we are still alive, doing quite well, and yet, we haven’t hurt anybody yet. YET.
By nucular
July 10, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this
The new, proud Bush version of Democracy and Freedom are surely on the march in Iraq these days. Praise the Lord.
By finch, Blog Lunatic
July 10, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this
I like the way our resident psycho posts this:
By You Have To Play Hardball July 10, 2006 04:28 PM For those Americans who can’t understand the potentially self-destructive behavior of Iran, North Korea, and the Palestinians, try thinking about the world as high school.
And then complains about here:
By The Stopper July 10, 2006 04:37 PM This blog really needs to impose a character and line return limit. Really, really needs to.
Is this just not so freakin weird?
By Midori
July 10, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this
I’m beginning to think that Andy has a thing for Finch.
Finch - watch out. He may go “Fatal Attraction” on you :)
By "Sectarian" Violence, Eh?
July 10, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this
A Tunisian involved in the bombing of the Golden Mosque was captured in Iraq.
Another lie laid bare.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this
Speaking of resident psycho:
Andy- Well, your 3:48 now appears delusional. Addictive personalities such as yours always react negatively to suggestions that they have a problem. You seriously should seek professional help but it’s your life; wallow in it if you choose to.
Now if you will not listen to me, listen to AR. He is a professional. Do you still hear those voices in your head saying the libs are the enemy?
By AntiRadical
July 10, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this
Andy- You are actually so obsessed with this blog that you count the number of words in a comment? If it makes you happy, my friend, and you consider that a worthwhile expenditure of your life then be my guest.
Personally, I view this blog as primarily a source of entertainment when I have a break and want to kill some time. If you really think you are changing anyone’s opinion here or that there is some higher purpose in your obsession then you should by all means continue. You appear to be such a happy and fullfilled individual, none of us would wish to detract from whatever floats your boat. See you later compadre’, have a blast, I have what I consider to be more fullfilling engagements than this one.
By Yes, I'm Inconsequential
July 10, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this
By AntiRadical July 10, 2006 05:17 PM Andy-You are actually so obsessed with this blog that you count the number of words in a comment? If it makes you happy, my friend, and you consider that a worthwhile expenditure of your life then be my guest.
Well, actually, “genius,” they have several software programs that if you highlight what you wish to count, it does it for you. I use one of them.
I sense this may be where the disconnect is, despite getalife’s fondness for your abilities, I’m pretty sure, and this is just an opinion, that you may be a bit on the slow side.
I, on the other hand, have reached a technological state that allows me to concentrate on several different things at once. Posting to a political blog is hardly the time consuming undertaking that you have made it out to be.
At least not for me anyway…..
P.S. If no reads this blog how do you account for the over 6000 page hits cartoon boy got for his Pot To Kettle abomination? Huh, huh?
By @@
July 10, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this
I’m still a little curious as to the timidity of your cartoon names ml.
Suggestion…”Bound To Fail”. The Democrat leftists could have deemed America as the failure, which they enjoy doing so often, and the Conservative right could have deemed Kim Jong, who’s ill as a failure.
Just a suggestion though. You know what’s best for you now, when it comes to titles for your cartoons I guess.
By Yeah, Right, Doctor FeelBad
July 10, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this
By getalife July 10, 2006 05:17 PM Now if you will not listen to me, listen to AR. He is a professional.
A professional what?
I certainly hope he’s not a psychiatrist. In the span of 3 posts he has ridiculed social behaviour, recommended anti social behaviour, has given an lame liberal excuse for his own actions that he should not even feel guilty for (entertainment, no kidding, Sherlock,) has rendered a false and incomplete diagnosis, used his position/ training to inflict harm and has ignored his own full blown hypocrisy.
Now I’ve got myself worried about any patients that may have come in contact with him.
Do the right thing AR, resign from your practice.
By RW-(the original)
July 10, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this
Speaking of Pot to Kettle and the latest in tame names
By finch
July 10, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this
midori,
He’s batting well under .500…. strictly minor league.
If his stalking skills are as good as his detective skills, I have nothing to worry about.
It’s absolutely amazing how obsessed he gets. Names, word counts, archives, intelligence, sexual orientation. And it’s soooo much fun to watch!
By getalife
July 10, 2006 06:16 PM | Link to this
finch,
I had a stalker from the lgf.
Weird but highly enertaining.
By Talent Scout
July 10, 2006 06:29 PM | Link to this
Hey coach, is that finch hanging out with the bat boys? Tell him to get back in the dugout. We’ll call him if we need him but it’s not likely.
By getalife
July 10, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this
Good thing the “blog professor” is not here.
enertaining=entertaining.
By Here Comes The Fat Lady
July 10, 2006 07:06 PM | Link to this
Maj. Gen. William B. Caldwell held a press briefing today discussing the impending turnover of security forces in the Muthanna province in southern Iraq. Caldwell described it as a “huge step”, and I don’t think that’s in any way an overstatement.
Muthanna will be the first province in Iraq to assume total control of its security forces: all mutlinational forces will withdraw from urban areas and take on a supporting role, while the local police will assume full responsibility and be under the direct control of Muthanna’s governor. In addition to being another sign of slow but steady progress in Iraq, Muthanna also represents an important test case for the future transition of the rest of the country’s security forces.
General Caldwelll stressed that the transition to “provincial Iraqi control has many long and difficult days ahead” and also that it’s not something that will be rushed to accommodate political concerns:
The transfer of security responsibility in Muthanna province remains a very real and tangible beginning to a new phase in the history of Iraq. Take note: This is just the first province of 18 that will go through this process; a process that is not driven by any timeline other than the readiness of leaders and the people of each Iraqi province. Muthanna now begins that journey. Transitions to provincial control are conditions-based. They can neither be rushed nor fabricated, but they can be crafted by diligence, stewardship, patience and the vision of the Iraqi people.
By The Media's Little Darlings
July 10, 2006 07:23 PM | Link to this
Traditionally, those who masquerade as civilians in order to kill legal combatants have been executed promptly, without trial. Severity, not sloppy leftist pandering, kept warfare within some decent bounds at least part of the time. But we have reached a point at which the rules apply only to us, while our enemies are permitted unrestricted freedom.
The present situation encourages our enemies to behave wantonly, while crippling our attempts to deal with terror.
Consider today’s norm: A terrorist in civilian clothes can explode an IED, killing and maiming American troops or innocent civilians, then demand humane treatment if captured - and the media will step in as his champion. A disguised insurgent can shoot his rockets, throw his grenades, empty his magazines, kill and wound our troops, then, out of ammo, raise his hands and demand three hots and a cot while he invents tales of abuse.-NYPost
By RW-(the original)
July 11, 2006 02:33 AM | Link to this
An update on the the American soldiers that ml thought upset the timing of his American torturer cartoon.