Mike Luckovich

By RW-(the original)

June 29, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

One of the deluded moonbats,

I’m perfectly content to make my points and let others decide who is right. I know your idea of debating skill is to endlessly drone about how intelligent you view yourself. I’m sure that works fine for you and a few others that buy into your delusion. I’m not trying to convince you of anything, I’ll just continue to counter your and your fellow travelers tripe so that casual readers will be able to see the choices.

You made a comment earlier that all I do is link to far right wing sites, so why would you worry about anything I say anyway? Anybody that followed along could easily see how untrue that is, so being a bald faced liar doesn’t phase you. On top of that why do you see the need to change names so often? Wasn’t Socialist Democrat working for you or is it just that every time you realize that you have backed yourself into a corner you just whistle past the graveyard and change your name? I know, I know that wasn’t you blah..blah..blah. Spare ne.

Are you ever planning to debate the merits of anything or is the name calling your only talent? Tell you what, I’ll just let you get the insults out of your system and when you have a real thought give me a shout.

By Andy’s First And Last Post, Wanker Free

June 30, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

Isn’t it ironic that a cartoonist fenced in by his editors and the “news” paper ownership because of his ignorance would draw the president being fenced in because of the court’s ignorance?

It’s kind of ignorant, ain’t it?

Like I say, always frisk the liberal first, it saves time.

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Front Page of the Atlanta Urinal:

Federal judge sides with sex offenders Law blocked 2 days before it was to take effect-AJC

Well, good for you liberals. You needed a victory.

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This coming from a cave, from which one dares not to venture out of:

Bin Laden Hails Slain Zarqawi As ‘Lion’-BreitBart

Praising some loser that got scattered by an American 500 pound bomb.

These guys must really be liberals.

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It is not “the people’s right to know” that pushes the New York Times to publicize classified national security secrets, rather its hope of creating conditions that will cause the defeat of our military and embarrassment worldwide of a defeated America. The public’s right to know is ignored in its pages when it comes to publicizing our victories in the War on Terror and the heroism of our soldiers. What motivates the New York Times is more “our enemies’ right to know.”-HumanEvents

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We must consider, too, the corruption and malfeasance that often accompany U.N. regulation. Recently, an official working with the U.N.-funded Methyl Bromide Phase-Out Project was arrested in Malawi, accused of embezzling $70,000 worth of fuel coupons bought from BP Malawi.-Washington Times

Another United Nations scandal. Involving oil money. Luckily, I think no children were prostituted.

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This is a “loss?”

Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a driver and bodyguard to Osama bin Laden, can be detained for the “duration of active hostilities,” the court ruled, making note of the threat he poses to the United States. But he will not be tried by military commission. The court contends that the broad authorization passed by Congress shortly after September 11 and the Detainee Treatment Act (DTA) passed in December “at most acknowledge a general Presidential authority to convene military commissions.” None of these congressional mandates can, the court concludes, “be read to authorize this commission.” Moreover, the court concludes that the military commission is invalid because its “structure and procedures violate both the UCMJ and the Geneva Conventions.”-WashingtonTimes

As soon as you would have convicted this guy and put him in jail, the libs would have went to work trying to pardon him and set him free, that is what they do.

This way, we know right where he’s at.

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The Democratic strategy against black Republicans is easy enough to understand: Call them sellouts; label them dupes of the racist Republican machine; link them to as many white conservatives as possible; and repeat. Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele is no stranger to this program ever since the Baltimore Sun editorialized that the only thing he brought to the gubernatorial ticket of Robert Ehrlich was “the color of his skin.”-WashingtonTimes

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What’s most amazing about Ann Coulter’s book, Godless: The Church of Liberalism, is the amount of intellectual meat she packs into 281 breezy, barb-filled pages. Among the topics the blonde bomb-thrower discusses in some depth are the following: liberal jurisprudence, privacy rights and abortion, Joe Wilson’s modest career and inflated ego, and the solid record of failure in American public schools. The topics of Intelligent Design and Darwinism, to which the last eighty pages of text are devoted, are analyzed in even greater detail.-AmericanSpectator

This is not a shill for our girl, it is honestly one of the best reads of the year.

Don’t miss out.

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The Bush administration is firmly behind this policy. And who is sniping at it from the sidelines? Democratic senators, fresh from having voted for troop withdrawal rather than victory as our objective in Iraq, led the charge to denounce any sort of amnesty for insurgents who had killed Americans.

Apart from the hypocrisy, there is the bizarre logic: Is the best way to honor the sacrifice of those who have died in Iraq to decree an impotent, completely hypothetical policy of retribution? (Who, after all, is going to bell the cat?) Or is it to create conditions for precisely the kind of Iraq — self-governing and internally reconciled — that these courageous soldiers were fighting for?

Our objective in any war is not revenge but success.-RealClearPolitics

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But how can Americans living in America, one wonders, be so anti-American? Answer: it is not the physical land between the Atlantic and Pacific they detest. It is the American system: the system that gives the individual American political conservative living in Frankfurt, Kentucky, the same one-man-one-vote power as the editor of the New York Times. And, who is that “hick” congressman to have more power than the enlightened editorial board of the New York Times? It is the American ethos that looks to the military, the Judeo-Christian religious ethic, and the historic American way that riles the publisher and cohorts of the New York Times who feel entitled to America’s homage and political servitude.-HumanEvents

By Wild Sects

June 30, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

Excellent toon Mike! Seems as if the Supreme Court is finally becoming reality based again.

By seeing through the smoke

June 30, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this

Hooray! A victory for our system of checks and balances! That’s what a judical branch is supposed to do. BTW, excellent ‘toon. I laughed out loud.

By Lord Help Us

June 30, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this

Great toon ML!! The look of confusion/fear is appropriate for W and his oblivious minions.

Gosh, add some Congressional oversight and we might possibly return administration of this country back to what our founders so wisely established - Checks AND Balances!

It’s The Competence, Stupid!

By Cindy

June 30, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

Genius at Work! Great toon Mike!! So very, very appropriate!

MIKE HAS TO STAY!!

By Goldie

June 30, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

Good one, Lucko — just look at the expression on that poor clueless dog!

By Goldie

June 30, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

Federal judge sides with sex offenders

Andy Wanker— looks like a reprieve for all of the sexually-repressed GA Repugs to continue to do their “thing”, frequently resulting in child abuse perversions.

By outrageous

June 30, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

There is such a world of difference between the President’s “terrorist” judicial system rejected by those activists at the Supreme Court and the so-called justice system (really a horror system!) in repressive nations! To compare the two reeks of “moral relativism”, which is a pinko liberal scam!

In pinko Communist countries and other socialist backwaters, people are arrested by paramilitary authorities without warrants and with no evidence. They are often turned in by relatives or neighbors who hold grudges over land or marriages or other areas that have nothing to do with politics or security. They are imprisoned at unknown locations until they’re moved to some gulag far away from their homes and are held indefinitely. They have no right to lawyers and can’t see the evidence against them, usually because there isn’t any. Loved ones aren’t told where they are or even if they’re in custody!

Contrast that with Gitmo, where people are held after being arrested by paramilitary authorities without warrants and with no evidence. They are often turned in by relatives or neighbors who hold grudges over land or marriages or other areas that have nothing to do with politics or security. They are imprisoned at unknown locations until they’re moved to some gulag far away from their homes where they are held indefinitely. They have no right to lawyers and can’t see the evidence against them, usually because there isn’t any. Loved ones aren’t told where they are or even if they’re in custody!

See the difference?? It’s time to tear down the invisible fence that keeps our pit-bull President from exercising his God given powers. Impeach the activist judges and restore honor to President Bush’s rule of law!

By @@

June 30, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this

I watched the Michael Steele “smackdown” of Alan Colmes the other night. Steele said he received more hate-filled racist comments from the Democrats. It was so funny, Alan Colmes even sounded racist in his accusations against the Republicans. Democrats don’t get it and they never will.

Oh…the cartoon. Buff called it yesterday.

The Supreme Court’s rebuff of the Bush administration’s Guantanamo military tribunals knocks the issue into the halls of Congress, where GOP leaders are already trying to figure out how to give the president the options he wants for dealing with suspected terror detainees.

Big dogs can’t be contained by those silly little electric fences. It’s those stupid little trembling chihuahuahs that can.

Yip Yip…….Woooooooffffff!

By MB

June 30, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this

Perfect Mike. I couldn’t believe Scalia writing desent that the majority was “creating a real mess” with this ruling. They aren’t creating the mess, W is the one who created the mess. I suspect we are going to see lots and lots of 5-4 rulings with the idiot gang of 4 (Scalia, Scalia-lite, Thomas, and Roberts) proving the desenting opinions.

By RW-(the original)

June 30, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

Only a clueless liberal would look at the Judicial Branch making a decision that the Executive Branch needed to get a clearer set of parameters from the Legislative Branch, a return to a system of “Checks AND Balances!”

News flash that IS the system of checks and balances at work just the way it always has been, so your paranoia about President Bush changing the system is completely unfounded as usual.

I can’t wait until the Democrats are pontificating for terrorist rights smack dab in the middle of campaign season this year. Can you say perfect timing?

By gttim

June 30, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

The Legislative, Judicial and Executive branches of the government are all supposed to be equal. It is high time some oversight is shown to the Bush administration and all it morally and legally corrupt members. One day the member of the Legislative branch will grow backbones, and this country can coninue to run as our founding fathers, and real patriots, intended.

Now Supreme Court and Legislative branch, lets do someting about the corrupt and non-auditable voting system we are getting into.

By @@

June 30, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this

RW:

By RW-(the original) June 29, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

One of the deluded moonbats

This ^^^ is the one and only time I have ever seen you contribute to the art of “nuance”.

You are too kind.

By Be Good to your Pets

June 30, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

I found that neutering is another excellent way to keep an old dog in line.

Good ‘toon Mike.

By Kevin

June 30, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

…has anyone drawn him as a dog before? Whatever the case, it’s very funny, Mike. -Nice work!

By RW-(the original)

June 30, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

See ^ ^ ^?

By seeing through the smoke

June 30, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this

Oddly, RW, I thought the idea behind the system of checks and balances was pretty simple…. Congress makes the laws, the Courts interpret the laws and the Executive enforces the laws…

I’d say if one branch of that triangle is out of step, the other branches are supposed to reach out and touch that branch. Exactly what the Court did on this issue. This is how it’s supposed to work… and Arlen Specter, like him or not, is doing the same thing as he leads the inquiry into the “signing statements” and other potential abuses of power by the executive… this is how our government is supposed to work.

By RW-(the original)

June 30, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this

@@,

If it’s too nuanced then maybe the post is misplaced in more ways than one.

Kevin,

Yes.

“When you walk through a bad neighborhood, you don’t want a poodle by your side. You want a Rottweiler.” - Gene Simmons on why he voted for George Bush in 2004.

By buff

June 30, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this

To you lefties: Does the SC ever make errors? Dred Scott? Plessy v. Ferguson, Kelo v. New London? Gore v. Bush (or whatever teh name was)?

My opinion, neither the US Constitution nor the Geneva Convention applies. the SC gave rights to those who should not have them. but, again let’s see what the House does with this. I predict that Congress gives Bush the power to pretty much do what he wants

By RW-(the original)

June 30, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

seeing through the smoke,

and not living up to the name.

That’s just what I said. The system of checks and balances is alive and well just as it always has been. So why are you directing your support of my theory to me?

By @@

June 30, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

Be Good to your Pets:

By Be Good to your Pets June 30, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

I found that neutering is another excellent way to keep an old dog in line.

Can I take this to mean that you are an advocate of human castration. Hmmmmmmmmm!!!

By sickofsleaze

June 30, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

Hang in there Mike, I love your cartoons, the best in the business. You must be doing something right

By seeing through the smoke

June 30, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

RW — I would suggest there has been very little in the way of checks and balances occurring on the part of our Legislative and Judicial branches of government. Bush has been engaged in an unchecked power grab since 9/11 and the Courts and Congress are just beginning to stand up to it. It is how it’s supposed to work, it’s just taking Congress and the Courts a while to catch up. Perhaps because they have to work with other Judges or representative and Senator to provide those checks this has led to a “lag time” in acting correctly.

By seeing through the smoke

June 30, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this

btw — Buff — yep. the courts and Congress make errors, just like the executive. It takes time to correct those errors, but I’ll put my faith in the system that ultimately is self correcting.

By court martial material

June 30, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON — For four years, they waged what may have been the loneliest fight in the war on terrorism. Facing Bush administration hard-liners intent on finding novel ways to deal with enemy combatants, the armed services’ own lawyers fought attempts to rewrite the rules of war.

Who were these people? Lawyers for the Navy who actually believed that the Guantanamo detainees deserved a trial!

“Irregular interrogation polices are illegal in the wake of this opinion — illegal, illegal, illegal,” said Derek P. Jinks, a law professor at the University of Texas and coauthor of a Supreme Court brief on the history of the Geneva Convention. “The crucial finding is that Common Article 3 applies.”

Although Defense officials said they were still studying the opinion, some in the administration believed that Jinks’ view was probably correct, and that the Hamdan decision would mean the architects of the war on terrorism would have to give new weight to the views of the military’s lawyers.

Send them to Guantanamo!

By Dittoheadwound

June 30, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

I dont think it’s nice, drawing POTUS that way, Mike. You see, I understand you were just clowning around, but my pitbull, he just doesn’t get it. He gets the crazy notion that you’re making fun of him. But, if you apologize, like I know you’re going to, maybe I can convince him that you really didn’t mean it.

By RW-(the original)

June 30, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

seeing through the smoke,

So your point is that the Executive in a time of war should do absolutely nothing until each minute detail has been debated by the Congress and given a Judicial stamp of approval.

Yeah, that’ll work. I bet Zarq-man wishes you had been in charge.

By Eric

June 30, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

This is degrading to dogs everywhere.

By sickofsleaze

June 30, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

I don’t think so. It’s even dawning on even the dimmest GOP Congressmember that We are well on the way to a dictatorship and the people are up in arms.

By seeing through the smoke

June 30, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

No, RW, I did not say the president should do nothing. I said there is a lag time in the correction process. The President did what he thought was correct. I disagree with him on some issues, and apparently, so do the courts and the congress. However, I believe we are closing that lag time and are going to see more checks put into place.

This is not about if a president should act in time of war, it is about the system correcting itself.

Let me know if you need additional clarification.

By Be Good to your Pets

June 30, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this

@@ Aren’t you the literalist!

As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, I find the idea of chemical or surgical castration for sex offenders interesting.

However, in this case I was thinking a bit more figuratively.

By Daniel

June 30, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

RW: We’re not at war. America could give a sh*t. Some of us are at war. Some families have sacrificed. 2529 dead this Friday. Do not equate thses deaths with violence in Atlanta. Our troops went to war for deceit and political advantage. If you republican were there, it might make a difference. How would you feel if a member of the Bush or Cheney families were there? What’s your sacrifice?

By RW-(the original)

June 30, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

Daniel,

Tell us about how our soldiers like to shoot babies in the head for fun you raving lunatic punk.

By pitbull

June 30, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

Ceasar did not understand his limits in Rome and had no Supreme Court to confine his actions. he finally succeeded in turning a democratic republic (like the USA) into a dictatorship (like Saddam’s Iraq).

By Daniel

June 30, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

RW: No one ever said that. The truth is they admitted it! It’s the truth you run from. Like much else. That is the truth of war, this war. Face the facts. Why are you afraid of the truth? These facts are why many, mant veterans opposed this war in the first place. We knew incompetent deceitful politicians would place our troops in the impossibile position of fighting an enemy invisible within the population we’re pretending to liberate. Wake up. Oh, by the way, name calling means nothing to me. I have served my country during time of war. I have seen war first hand. What do you see? Why is it always those that know the least are the most avid for war?

By Truthman

June 30, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

Hey, I don’t know if “Lane Randall” is on this site. But, if he is, he has plagarized en toto my argument about selective outrage at the NYT and not at the WSJ (today’s letters to the editor).

Lane, if you stole my words, you’re no more of journalist than Jeff Gannon, the male prostitute who was granted 196 White House credentials by the current regime.

By Dittoheadwound

June 30, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

Truthman, That’s not fair to you. And I was fooled too. I thought Lane Randall wrote that, and I mailed him a check for two thousand dollars to keep up the good work. Sorry, man. I’ll certainly pay more attention to your blog and if you’ll be kind enough to forgive me, and send me your bank account number, I’ll send you some dough too, if’n I be a likin’ what I be a readin’ from your bloggin’.

By buff

June 30, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

pitbull

If I remember my history right, the Roman Republic had turned into the Roman Empire years before Caesar took power. Again, I could be wrong on that

By Laura

June 30, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

Yea, Bushie……bark like the dog you are. GREAT TOON, Mike.

I hope I live long enough to see W locked up at The Hague for his crimes.

By Dittoheadwound

June 30, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this

Is today’s cartoon just another torture cartoon? Isn’t shocking a dog torturing him? Shouldn’t the Supreme Court rule about this?

Mike, how many times are you going to the torture well? Next you’ll be showing POTUS struggling with the chinese finger trap torture as he tries to understand what the Supreme Court just did to him.

By Patriotic Foreskin

June 30, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

Hey, Ditto, if shocking POTUS gets him to understand the constitution, then all I have to say is, “Red goes on Positive, Black on Negative”!!!

By Dittoheadwound

June 30, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

That’s not what I said, Patriotic Foreskin. Dont read his posts, folks, he’s changed my meaning around. It’s not fair. There has to be rules. I didn’t say that. Quit putting words in my mouth. It’s rude.

By buff

June 30, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

pitbull, I think we were both wrong, but me more than you. Caesar died in 46 BC. Octavius became the first emperor 15 years later in 31 BC

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 30, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

You’re wrong on that, Buff.

By Making Up The Rules As We Go

June 30, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

Checks and balances, eh?

So what “laws” did these unelected magic wand, err, gavel wavers base their decision on?

We are talking about foreign enemy detainees, correct?

Am I missing something here?

When were they afforded rights under the Constitution, which is what the “Supreme Court” is supposed to derive our rights and laws from, period?

What is the Commander In Chief’s job?

When will the “Supreme Court” start dictating troop levels and placement?

When will they set the permissible level of force that our soldiers are allowed to use?

How many dead civilians will they allow before the United States is allowed to respond in force?

When will they find the “right” for certain countries to invade us, for our past “wrongdoings?”

I’m not giving you uneducated pinkos any ideas, am I?

By rushncap

June 30, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

That is the funniest representation of Bush I think I’ve seen in cartoons to date! Awesome. Mike strikes again.

By buff

June 30, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

By One

Here is where I got my info, hey it is the net. Maybe I am reading it wrong

http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/romans.html

By rushncap

June 30, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

No, li’l andy, you’re not givng anyone any ideas. You’re a nutcase, the only idea you can possibly give is “My, why are the nice men in white coats not at your house yet?”

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 30, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this

Buff,

Earlier you said that the Gitmo prisoners don’t have any rights. All humans have rights, if you believe what it says in the Declaration of Independence. We know that most, if not all, of the prisoners at Gitmo are criminals and terrorists. The problem is how to deal with them. Our legal system should continue to act as a shining example to the rest of the world, as it has throughout most of the history of our nation. Right now, because the administration has usurped congress and is not abiding by either American law or international law in regard to these prisoners, we are moving towards the realm of dictatorship and becoming a pariah in the world. And don’t give me that silliness about how Lincoln and Roosevelt expanded their powers during wartime. This isn’t that kind of war. There’s no reason we can’t find a lawful way to deal with these criminals under the oversight of congress and with transparency for the American people and the world. We need to do that because we’ll have to deal with the problem, this battle against an expanding philosophy, for many, many years to come.

By You Went To Re Education Camp For That?

June 30, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

This is your first and only warning, rushncrap, socialist weenie, while I don’t condone attacks on women, in your case I would seriously advise that you limit yourself to just that.

Especially with lame, limp d-ick responses like 11:23.

Unless, of course, you want to be my bi-tch this afternoon. In that case, come on with it.

By rushncap

June 30, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Be your b!tch, li’l andy? What are you gonna do, sniff my a$s? No thanks, keep that to yourself. Little boy, I’ll say it only once — online bravery is the most pathetic form of pussification in the known world. Enjoy it!

By Lookie Who Al Qaeda Is Missing

June 30, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

It is ironic that in the years before 9/11 when bin Laden was releasing lengthy, substantive statements on important matters of al Qaeda objectives and strategy few people were paying attention; and now when he has the world’s ear all bin Laden can muster are empty threats, puerile mockery, and hollow clichés honoring fallen members of his ever-shrinking group of followers. None of the promised domestic attacks of the last five years have materialized. And since Zarqawi’s demise attacks on Coalition forces in Iraq have fallen by 15-20 percent. Osama is going to have to work a lot harder than this to prove he is still relevant.-NationalReview

I thought they were stepping it up?

I thought Zarqawi was a has been, a nobody?

Libs, wrong again.

By @@

June 30, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this

Be Good To Your Pets:

Me…..a literalist? Words are fun to play with!!!!

An antagonist, a monogamist, a philanthropist, an activist. The ist goes on and on.

Hell, rushncap even called me a psychiatrist. I took it to be his plea for help. He’s been a tough nut to crack, but those in denial usually are. He can never seem to get it right.

Unfortunately, today, I will be in and out of the office.

By buff

June 30, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

By One

I said that they do not have US Constitutional rights, my opinion. You are right abut this being a different kind of war, much harder to fight, much harder to protect our innocents. And Congress WILL give Bush the power. Political suicide not to, and being pols, no matter the party, they want to get reelected. Wait until someone runs a poll asking: “Should Gitmo detainees have the same rights as US citizens?” which is not exactly what the SC said, but that is how it will be spun. And, again, an Emory law prof, not known for conservatism, stated yesterday, that the Court’s move was new precedent

By Sick him puppy!

June 30, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

Great toon Mike!

A shocked sick puppy, if you will.

Another Pulitzer, indeed!

By Well, Well, "Civil War" My A-ss

June 30, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

Iraqi and U.S. troops battled Shi’ite militiamen in a village northeast of Baghdad on Thursday…Iraqi security officials said IRANIAN FIGHTERS HAD BEEN CAPTURED IN THE FIGHTING (emphasis added)…The U.S. military had no immediate comment.

In recent days there have been several stories further documenting the Iranian role in the terror war in Iraq, especially in the south, where Tehran has been working assiduously for several years to create a regional Islamic republic. So the al-Reuters report should not be a surprise.-NationalReview

By rushncap

June 30, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

@@, if you’re a psychiatrist, li’l andy is the Queen of England. I said you’re a wannabe psychiatrist, which is kind of like a Keven Federline being a wannabe rapper. Only he has a better chance.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 30, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

Buff,

Pertaining to the Caesar question, the only reason Caesar didn’t officially become the emperor is because he was killed first, and he was killed because he was becoming the emperor. We discuss him in regard to the end of the republic because when he became the victor in the civil war that made him ruler, the senate ceased having any real power for the rest of Rome’s existence, hence the end of the Republic. The senate was the last vestige of power the people of Rome had. After Caesar all power was in the hands of the dictator.

By Midori

June 30, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

I must concur with the readers who find this cartoon soooo completely on spot and funny as heck.

Great job, Mike.

We should run a pool to see which of the “outraged” here will send a pipe bomb to the Supreme Couert.

By Sleeping In Class?

June 30, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

rushncrap: Considering all that they teach in school nowadays is how to put on a condom and the proper role of a transvestite in a nurturing relationship, I’m surprised that you did not readily adapt to your role as being my b-itch. I don’t think it’s a matter of your subjugation, I just think you are incorrect in your response, as usual.

I’ve yet to see you get it right the first time.

So let’s try this once again, you little hoser, begone before you become permanently ensnared in servitude to me.

Unless, of course you like it, then come back for some more.

By Gee, That's What I Said

June 30, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

The Supreme Court’s decision to impose by judicial fiat a treaty that no politically accountable official would dare propose — a one-sided compact wherein the United States gives elevated due process to al Qaeda’s terrorists while they continue slaughtering civilians and torturing their captives to death — is an abomination.-NationalReview

By RW-(the original)

June 30, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

So you prefer lying punk to just punk? Our soldiers DID NOT admit to murdering babies for fun by shooting them in the back of the head, which you have been accusing them of for two weeks.

People like you throw these accusations around out of some self-centered sense of loss because your boy isn’t in the White House. It makes our soldiers overly cautious and gets them killed. I hope you can live with that blood on your hands you lying punk piece of trash.

By buff

June 30, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

By One

By buff

June 30, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

By One

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 30, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

Buff,

Of course it’s a new precedent; we’ve never had to try terrorists before. The administration doesn’t want to classify them as prisoners of war because they are not fighting on behalf of a sovereign nation. Fine. But then they must fall under U.S. civil law. You can’t have it both ways- saying that no laws apply to them. Let congress legislate what to do under the circumstances (also adhering to the Geneva Convention since we plucked them off of foreign soil), put them on trial, and incarcerate them for life if necessary. Just provide the evidence and sentence them according to the rule of law. That’s all we’re asking.

By Midori

June 30, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

One of the Voices,

I am reading up on Roman History now.

Watched “I, Claudius” the past couple nights.

You are absolutely correct. The Roman Caesars had ALL the power, and completely screwed the people.

Upon the murder of Caligula, Claudius wanted to revert Rome back to a republic, but the Pretorian Guard would have nothing of it.

By buff

June 30, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

By One

Thanks, been a long time since I studied that, about 30 years. Although i did study Cicero in grad school

By War is hell!

June 30, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

Oops

By buff

June 30, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

This is hilarious

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/06/28/MNG7PJM0RJ20.DTL

By Joe Roman

June 30, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

Those of us on the liberal side of political thought can breath a sigh of relief. The system works! Unlike many, I haven’t been an alarmist or a rigid ideologue when it comes to the judicial selection process. If a jurist’s opinions have been based on the law and the Consititution, we must have faith in their ability to make proper choices. Otherwise, the system is meaningless. As test cases work their way through the courts, I believe we’ll see many more of the Bush administration’s totalitarian policies given the kabosh by the Supremes.

By @@

June 30, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

You and I have discussed your “displaced anger issues” before. It is destructive to your mental well-being to maintain this psychosis. I know that you have had previous therapists that have told you this as well.

Your time is up for today. I’ll set you up with another appointment. Your therapy is going to take some time.

By buff

June 30, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

The first sentence says it all. Maybe she conferred with Justices John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader-Ginsbery

“This is an unspeakable injustice to those rats who deserved better,” Phyllis Mason, a self-described rat lover, wrote in an e-mail. “Why didn’t the Petaluma Animal Shelter give us a chance to help? I cannot imagine that all of those rats were ill. It seems to me that they felt overwhelmed and just didn’t want to bother with them.”

Tina Bird, of Campbell, said the rat community was in the process of mobilizing when the rodents were killed.

“Maybe they would have been better advised to leave the animals in their horrible conditions until we, the rat community, had a few days to get moving,” she wrote in an e-mail. “Be sure that animal lovers across the United States will be scrutinizing Petaluma’s actions and culpability for this slaughter.”

By buff

June 30, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

Midori

Where did you see the show on Rome? Is it going to be on again?

By Liberal Whackjob

June 30, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

By One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent June 30, 2006 12:06 PM Buff, Of course it’s a new precedent; we’ve never had to try terrorists before. The administration doesn’t want to classify them as prisoners of war because they are not fighting on behalf of a sovereign nation. Fine. But then they must fall under U.S. civil law.

Say what?

Murderers of women and children, “fighting” out of uniform, are perfect candidates for the firing squad. As soon as they are captured.

It’s more rights than they would afford our soldiers or our families.

It’s why the liberals speak out for the murderers, they hate us.

By Midori

June 30, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

Regardless of who’s “boy” is in the White House, is this not criminally disgusting?

By Midori

June 30, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Joe Roman,

good to see you. your rational, cogent thoughts have been missed :)

By Midori

June 30, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

Buff,

I got the series off Ebay. The BBC produced it sometime in the 70’s.

here’s the website for it’s homepage

It’s completely fascinating.

By RW-(the original)

June 30, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

Buff,

I’m sure they did what they had to do, just like they would in the case of someone hoarding cats or an out of control puppy mill, but rats make fabulous pets. They are loving, clean, and extremely intelligent.

I have one that by all rights should have died months ago, but her will to live is too strong and her ability to deal with her worsening condition is a true marvel.

I’m out for a while. Good to see you back here.

By Why do they hate you...

June 30, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Wingnut whackjob?

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 30, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Yes, the beginning of the end of Rome was when it ceased being a republic (and its citizens no longer ruled it), and unchecked dictatorship prevailed with the government operating under the whims of some reasonable, but just as often psychotic rulers. Let’s not start that slide in this country, or if we already have, let’s stop it now.

Whackjob Andy,

I don’t even have that much of a problem putting some terrorists in front of a firing squad, but they must have a trial. Are you suggesting that our soldiers just drive around Iraq and Afghanistan, pull people out of their houses and execute them on the spot? For one day please stop flaunting your foolishness. If we know enough about what these individuals have done to arrest them and imprison them, then we should have enough evidence, or be able to find enough evidence to prove it once they’re incarcerated. Do you really think there is no way a relatively innocent bystander could have been snatched up in a raid? One who is not a threat to us nor was conspiring against us but ended up at Gitmo anyway? I’d ask you to use your brain but we already know that’s not possible.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 30, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

Why is it not surprising to me that RW takes a liking to rats? When he said rats are “are loving, clean, and extremely intelligent”, do you think he was referring to his perception of Andy, Danish, and Dusty? I think there are a few of us here who would disagree.

By The Ugly Side of Iraq We Aren't Supposed to See

June 30, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

U.S. troops accused of killing Iraq family

BEIJI, Iraq - Five U.S. Army soldiers are being investigated for allegedly raping a young woman, then killing her and three members of her family in Iraq, a U.S. military official said Friday.

The soldiers also allegedly burned the body of the woman they are accused of assaulting in the March incident, the official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.

The U.S. command issued a sparse statement, saying Maj. Gen. James D. Thurman, commander of coalition troops in Baghdad, had ordered a criminal investigation into the alleged killing of a family of four in Mahmoudiyah, south of Baghdad. The statement had no other details.

The case represents the latest allegations against U.S. soldiers stemming from the deaths of Iraqis. At least 14 U.S. troops have been convicted.

The United States also is investigating allegations that two dozen unarmed Iraqi civilians were killed by U.S. Marines in the western town of Haditha on Nov. 19 in a revenge attack after one of their own died in a roadside bombing.

“The entire investigation will encompass everything that could have happened that evening. We’re not releasing any specifics of an ongoing investigation,” military spokesman Maj. Todd Breasseale said of the Mahmoudiyah allegations.

“There is no indication what led soldiers to this home. The investigation just cracked open. We’re just beginning to dig into the details.”

However, a U.S. official close to the investigation said at least one of the soldiers, all assigned to the 502nd Infantry Regiment, has admitted his role and been arrested. Two soldiers from the same regiment were slain this month when they were kidnapped at a checkpoint near Youssifiyah.

The official told the AP the accused soldiers were from the same platoon as the two slain soldiers. The military has said one and possibly both of the slain soldiers were tortured and beheaded.

The official said the mutilation of the slain soldiers stirred feelings of guilt and led at least one of them to reveal the rape-slaying on June 22.

Whenever our forces are reduced to committing these kinds of atrocities, THEY ARE IN OVER THEIR HEADS ! ! ! BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW.

According to the Neocons we should never hear about these actions because it would ‘hurt the war on terror’. Instead, our soldiers should have free reign to rape and murder indiscriminately so the Republicans aren’t embarrased anymore by the revelations that IRAQ IS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE AMERICA HAS EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ! ! !

By When Did I Say That?

June 30, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

By One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent June 30, 2006 12:37 PM I don’t even have that much of a problem putting some terrorists in front of a firing squad, but they must have a trial. Are you suggesting that our soldiers just drive around Iraq and Afghanistan, pull people out of their houses and execute them on the spot?

I’d love to spend time arguing in place of your straw man but you and I are on two totally different subjects. Since you got your fantasy Conservative off and running, why don’t you go ahead and shadow box with him.

I’ll speak for myself, thank you very much.

“Soldiers” caught on the battlefield out of uniform should be offered a cigarette (a right the libs would freak about) and the opportunity to kiss their a-sses goodbye.

Anyone one caught scheming or actually killing women and children should be shot on sight, no cigarettes.

Matter of fact, I can’t even think any other way. These savages deserve no consideration from us, anything else is ridiculous, suicidal. I don’t go there.

It’s like being nice to a cancer that’s eating your insides.

I will never be as stupid as you are OotMVoD.

By buff

June 30, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

In 2005 didn’t Congress pass a law cutting the Federal Courts out of the detainee issue? Did Stevens et al. address this? Just wondering. And, what about the 1942 unanimous Supreme Court ruling saying we could kill those German saboteurs? Off to play

By E Pluribus

June 30, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

HAHAHAHA! Great toon, Mike! Too funny! Nicely done.

By The Ugly Side of Iraq We Aren't Supposed to See

June 30, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

The Promotion After Haditha

Three officers have already been removed from their posts in the wake of the allegations that U.S. Marines killed 24 civilians in the Iraqi town of Haditha. But while top-level officials in the Marine Corps await the report from Army Maj. General Eldon Bargewell, who is investigating the actions of the Marines and the chain of command after the incident, the promotion of one of the Marines who is the focus of the criminal investigation is drawing new scrutiny.

Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich, the Marine who was the unit leader on the ground that day in Haditha, was put on the Marine Corps list for promotion from sergeant to staff sergeant in October 2005. Being put on the list, however, does not ensure promotion; the Marine’s commander must okay it first, and the Marine Corps routinely holds up nominations or promotions if there is any reason to question the actions of a Marine. Even a charge of “driving while intoxicated,” for example, can delay or derail a step up.

Still, Wuterich, who has over seven years in the Corps but was on his first combat duty in Haditha, was officially promoted to the higher rank on January 1, 2006, six weeks after the incident took place. That has led some Marine sources to suspect there was at least a failure to report relevant details up the chain of command. Others, including Wuterich’s attorney, Neal Puckett, argue that Wuterich acted appropriately under the rules of engagement in Haiditha and that if his superior officers had suspected otherwise, Wuterich’s promotion would have been stopped.

* Is anybody really in charge in Iraq? Medals and chevrons sure do make a good formula for whitewash, though !*

By Hey, That's What I Said

June 30, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

The court moves in this direction by effectively reading al Qaeda into the Geneva Conventions. The conventions are a treaty to which nations voluntarily bind themselves. Al Qaeda has never signed on, since 1) it isn’t a nation; and 2) it would be an obstacle to practices that are central to its organization, including slaughtering civilians and beheading prisoners. But the court bestows a bonus membership to al Qaeda, because it furthers the court’s goal of dictating how captured al Qaeda members should be tried.-NationalReview

By Daniel

June 30, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

RW: You realy need a rest. The facts of Haditha are laregl admitted. The marine who was charged with the clean-up said the children were shot in the back of their heads! Now, you don’t like the truth. You and others like yu are cowards. You, and the whole Bush crowd send our troops into an impossible situation. You have Komputer Kourage. The Amry has raised the age of ennlistment to 42. let’s go. Sign up, Rw. there’s adetail laving to pick up some bodies. Coward.

By What's Iraq Got To Do With It?

June 30, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this

Man gets 15 years in rape of teenager By ajc.com The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 06/19/06 06:40 AM A 51-year-old man who raped a 13-year-old girl has been sentenced to 15 years in prison, the Fulton County district attorney’s office said.

By Daniel

June 30, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

RW: Only a coward would put the words fun and war in the same sentence. There is no joy in this. You need another John Wayne movie. Face it. Own it. It’s your war. You sent those men in there. You and Bush pulled those triggers. Christian? Hardly!

By The Ugly Side of Iraq We Aren't Supposed to See

June 30, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

By What’s Iraq Got To Do With It? June 30, 2006 01:11 PM

Man gets 15 years in rape of teenager By ajc.com

So this ‘man’ was representing the people and values of the USA when he was ‘on duty’ ? ? ?

Very instructive to see the Neos excuse away rape and murder now because it happens somewhere other than in Iraq by American troops on duty. Is there anything at all the Neos won’t excuse away in order to shield their ‘savior’, George W. Bush ?

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 30, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

When Did Andy Say That?,

You speak of savages, but in the same breath suggest that people should be “shot on sight”, so you think people should be executed without a trial. Again, pot to kettle, Andy. You are the savage. You are the barbarian. We in the civilized world give people trials before we sentence them, especially if that sentencing may include execution, a questionable penalty in and of itself. Sooner or later “thinkers” like yourself will become victims of evolution. Humanity will abandon the barbaric principles of your kind, along with those of the terrorists, and move towards a more moral, enlightened state of being. It may take a few hundred years, but if global warming doesn’t do in mankind first, your likes are a dying breed.

By Excusing Rape, My Goodness

June 30, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

Unreal:

By The Ugly Side of Iraq We Aren’t Supposed to See June 30, 2006 01:27 PM By What’s Iraq Got To Do With It? June 30, 2006 01:11 PM Man gets 15 years in rape of teenager By ajc.com So this ‘man’ was representing the people and values of the USA when he was ‘on duty’ ? ? ?

So that makes it O.K. in your puny little mind, right self abusing little maggot?

Human filth.

By his oedipus complex

June 30, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

“Soldiers” caught on the battlefield out of uniform should be offered a cigarette…

How does anyone know they’re soldiers? Is everyone not wearing a uniform in a battlezone automatically a combatant? Maybe they live there. Do we shoot them all?

Yessiree, a steady diet of pointless civilian massacres will show the world just how committed Americans are to justice and fairness! We need more Hadithas! More Mahmoudiyahs!

I bet you still think the women and kids gunned down at My Lai were Viet Cong Sappers and Lt. Calley was a hero.

On the bright side, voters are now associating numbnut wingnuts like you (big mouths, tiny d—- and no brains) with the GOP.

That’s it! You’re on the Kos payroll. Reverse psyops!

Not that the Democrats need the help.

Brilliant!!!

By It Figures I Have To Explain This

June 30, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this

You liberals really do have your heads up your a-sses.

Let’s see, if a terrorist, which is most likely an Arab male, is standing their shooting women and children, then he should be shot on sight. If you, lib, feel differently, then by all means, let every body in the world know.

Should we let them finish the killings before we read them their rights?

Should we give them some more ammo when they run out, you know, show them understanding and 21st century enlightenment?

Should we gather more women and children for them to shoot, showing our western civility to the murderers?

Tell us some more brilliant things you pinkos think we should do.

By Jesus

June 30, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By karma

June 30, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

It’s awful that Bush & Friends are seeking the mantle of Imperial Presidency! It’s hilarious when they’re so clumsy at it. It’s inspiring to see patriots fight back.

The New York Times leak on money transfers included info from 20 leakers. The Wall Street Urinal and Los Angeles Times counted a dozen each.

Leaks of this magnitude occur when there are disgruntled people very high up in the organization. Leaks of this magnitude present a serious risk to the leaker, who is usually motivated by a genuine disgust for what is going on, or a mistrust of his superiors. But he leaks anyway, because he has a much higher standard than his bosses.

This is a historically bad administration! We are throwing away young lives, and mind boggling amounts of money, destroying our financial future and squandering a century of international good will, on a stupid, ill-thought-out war that will have no lasting positive value.

The “leakers” are patriots. The wankers who call them traitors should be shot, just like they want to see civilians in the “war on terrah” shot. We’ll give them a cigarette!

By @@

June 30, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

OoTMVoD:

We in the civilized world give people trials before we sentence them.

I think you need to talk to “The Ugly Side of Iraq We Aren’t Supposed To See”. His/her link mentions the word “alleged” several times, but it looks like he/she has sentenced them already. Is he/she playing fast and loose do you think?

He/she is such a BARBARIAN.

By oedipus complex

June 30, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

Let’s see, if a terrorist, which is most likely an Arab male, is standing their shooting women and children, then he should be shot on sight.

But that’s not what you said wanker! You didn’t say “terrorist”. You didnt say shooting moms and kids. Getting lost in your own non-logic, huh humper?

How many detainees at Guantanamo were seized after being seen mowing down women and kids? Huh?? How many? Like maybe, zero?

You are such a pitiful excuse for an American.

By Daniel

June 30, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

We want you to look at the truth. Do you know anything about war? Have you ever held a dead child? Have you ever been in cambat? Are you willing to enlist? When incompetents recklessly send troops into an impossible situation, Haditha is the predictable result. Can you face the truth? Can you face it without calling people names? Do you have courage? I understand my telling you the truth spoils your illusion. That’s your problem.

By Crazy finch Is Creepy

June 30, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

By oedipus complex June 30, 2006 02:07 PM How many detainees at Guantanamo were seized after being seen mowing down women and kids? Huh?? How many? Like maybe, zero?

No, they were probably innocently playing hopscotch, the big evil US army was out trolling for new Dick Cheney torture victims.

Happy now, looney tunes?

By pitbull

June 30, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

My point on the Ceasar comparison is that the US President who grasps power at the expense of the other two branches of the federal government is as much of a risk to the US citizens’ liberty as an outside power, and maybe even moreso. Only congress has the right to declare war, yet Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, and now Bush Jr have waged war without a Congressional declaration as the Constitution requires. What other powers will future presidents assume at the price of a balanced governmental power plan our founders put in place to prevent just this type of abuse. If the Congress does not have the guts to step up to the plate, the Supreme Court must have the guts.

I fail to understand how we can hold prisioners of war when Congress has not declared a war. I think GWB should be impeached for willingly overstepping his authorities and costing 2500+ service men and women their lives based on what appears to be a little boy’s desire to earn his daddy’s approval and prove that he is indeed lovable and acceptable to Bush Sr.

By rushncap

June 30, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

Daniel, their answer to all your questions is “no”, but they won’t admit it. So get ready for another round of name-calling by RW, @@ and everyone else here.

By rushncap

June 30, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

I think we finally found one thing Shrubby is good at. Maybe he should just become a docent at Graceland. It would probably result in Graceland somehow burning down, but that’s certainly less of a loss than 2,500 American lives and hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars.

By Can It Be Anymore Clear?

June 30, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

The Conservatives in here stand behind American soldiers and their mission.

The liberals stand behind the rights of Al Qaeda and their objectives.

These facts are indisputable.

So who would you, normal, functioning human being, choose to protect you and your family?

By Daniel

June 30, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this

rushncap: Maybe he’ll find WMD there! Or, even Elvis. As you might imagine the Iraq War is extremely painful for vets. What is equally appalling is the glorification of war by nincompoops. Most of the right-wing knuckleheads on this blog do not have a clue. They must attack me because they simply cannot and will not face the truth. Thanks for listening. I’m outta here!

By Thomas

June 30, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this

Wow —

The discussion of Ceasar — My favorite! —-

and your even discussing my favorite tagline!~

The “Democratic” glory of the “Roman Republic” lasted a little over 200 years until the people gave up their rights during a national crisis and then became the “Roman Empire”. One must now wonder if the same fate is now befalling the people of the American Republic.

Concerning our detainee’s —-

There are 3 documents that apply here —

1) The Geneva Conventions 2) The WarPowers act 3) The Constitution of the United States (note the States part is very important)

Bush has violated the writ of the Geneva Conventions, but has justified ignoring it by applying the Constitution’s rules of law to justify his ignoring it. He has avoided the rules of the WarPowers act, by bending Constitutional Law under the authority to invade Iraq given by Congress. The mistake in this is such authority is not clearly defined when it was passed, and that is how Bush was able to live up to the letter of the law yet completly ignore the spirit of the law.

The invasion of Iraq was an invasion of a sovereign country. The clear error here is that Bush declared “War on Terrorism”, and not a “War on Iraq”. This in itself is an illegal declaration of War in my opinion as it does not follow any of our country’s rules (and standing laws) of warfare. By using this grey war declaration it has allowed a travesty of justice that now allows for immense abuses by this administration. Gitmo could not legally exist in a real war declared on a country or political body.

On top of that - Congress is suppose to declare war, not the President. Also “War” is declared on a country or the leadership of a country’s society.

We could correct this whole thing by defining our war in Iraq and Afghanistan by simply declaring war on any of the following parties - Iraq, Afghanistan, The Taliban (which was a ruling government of Afghanistan), or Sadam Hussein. We could even declare a war on all 4. If we had a clearly defined war, then the Geneva conventions would also apply clearly as to all the legal issues of detainees as they would then be POW’s. Then and only then we would know precisely what rights they had and what laws they could be tried under.

Legally - We are not at war — We have not declared War - Period. Declaring war on terrorism, (or drugs for that matter) is a political themed agenda and not a legitimate war defined under the warpowers act.

So therefore:

We as a nation must apply our constitutional laws to our prisoner/detainee’s, because if the Geneva Conventions do not apply then we have taken “Hostages” and not “Prisoners of War”. And I hate to say this but if that is the case and we have taken Hostages (even if you call them enemy combatants or any other made up name), then we have clearly violated the Geneva conventions and our leadership has now committed War Crimes.

So whats it gonna be — do we use our constitutional laws and rights here or do we declare ourselves Hostage takers?

Thomas —

By Pat Buchanan, Lib Hunting

June 30, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Behind the Times’ defiance of the law surely lies a gnawing need for redemption. For the Times has been through a bad patch. First, it was revealed Jayson (“Burning Down My Master’s House”) Blair had hoked up three dozen stories and smoked them right past the Times’ editors, who were blinded by the brilliance of their black prodigy. Then, there came the revelation that editor Howell Raines directed the paper to run three dozen stories on the human rights atrocity at Augusta National, where some good ole boys had conspired to keep the girls out of their tree house. After that, there was the Judith Miller fiasco, where the Times stood firm — then folded in the face of some really big-time fines.

Keller and publisher Arthur Sulzberger appear to have decided the way to recapture lost credibility is to publish national security secrets, as in the Pentagon Papers days of yore.-HumanEvents

By Midori

June 30, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

Andy,

do you speak in italics as well?

By The Ugly Side of Iraq We Aren't Supposed to See

June 30, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

By The Ugly Side of Iraq We Aren’t Supposed to See June 30, 2006 01:27 PM By What’s Iraq Got To Do With It? June 30, 2006 01:11 PM Man gets 15 years in rape of teenager By ajc.com So this ‘man’ was representing the people and values of the USA when he was ‘on duty’ ? ? ?

So that makes it O.K. in your puny little mind, right self abusing little maggot?

Human filth,

Dear Human Filth: Well you do have an appropriate signature. Rape and murder is not alright in Atlanta OR in Iraq whether it is done by criminals or American soldiers. The incident at Beiji has been CONFESSED by at least one of the soldiers involved (see earlier post 12:55) but you Neos still want to shield your savior, George W. Bush, even if it means ignoring rape and murder. You continue to spew the same old excuse of ‘Let’s Wait for a Trial’,when we already have a confession. Neos make such charming sewer rats ! ! ! Is there literally ANYTHING WHATSOEVER that a Neo will not excuse for their craven idol?

BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW ! ! !

By Too Stupid To Understand Their Own Words

June 30, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

Dear Human Filth: Well you do have an appropriate signature. Rape and murder is not alright in Atlanta OR in Iraq whether it is done by criminals or American soldiers.

You are absolutely right, moron. Plus what the hell difference does it make whether human failings happen in Iraq or Atlanta, you stupid harlot.

Jack as-s.

By RE

June 30, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

Thomas, very clear and well thought out summation. Unfortunately, in a few minutes some whacko will avoid your arguement enitrely and call you a bin laden supporter who wants to kill innocent Americans. Such is the tenor of this blog

By The heartbreak of paranoia

June 30, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

It’s gotten to the point where the neocons are scared of their own shadows! They think a terrorist is hiding behind every Bush. They mistake this fear and paranoia for patriotism.

This makes shooting anyone in a war zone who’s not wearing a uniform perfectly acceptible to them.

The US is losing the terror war at home and overseas thanks to the neocons who think killing everyone is good policy.

By Think Tank Timmy

June 30, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this

We cut and run in Afghanistan, didn’t we?

Bush said he dont care squat about where OBL is, didn’t he?

The Taliban has re-emerged as the dominant force in Afghanistan havent’ they?

The 911 hijackers are all dead. What war? If Bush dont want to punish those responsible, then what are we talking about here, except a red herring to distract our attention from the greed and corruption of Bush World. (Delay too) Cheney too.

By The Ugly Side of Iraq We Aren't Supposed to See

June 30, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this

Dear Human Filth: Well you do have an appropriate signature. Rape and murder is not alright in Atlanta OR in Iraq whether it is done by criminals or American soldiers.

You are absolutely right, moron. Plus what the hell difference does it make whether human failings happen in Iraq or Atlanta, you stupid harlot.

Jack as-s.

Dear Jack as-s: Excuses, excuses, excuses ! ! !

By @@

June 30, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

Daniel:

Just popping in here like you so often “pop off” here. That was a very heart-felt statement at 2:09. It’s sole intention was to inflict guilt onto those who have never served. There are a whole lot of those people in the country who still support the efforts of the troops in Iraq. Are you prepared to infer that all of those people are blind cowards.

To answer:

Truth - It’s all in your perception.

War Service - No for me, but yes for my husband who supports this war effort. But the liberals on this site had a gay old time accusing him of being a liar.

Dead Child - Yes! It was heart-wrenching.

Enlist? - Would you like to take my place working with Special Needs Children along with various other civic responsibilities that I have accepted gladly?

Give me a break! May I take this opportunity to call you a liar in your declaration of having served. NO, because I wouldn’t do that. I would thank you for that service. I’ll leave the name calling of veterans who have served to the liberals on this site. You seem to claim it as your privelege.

By The war on terror....

June 30, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this

is like the war on drugs.

It is a money maker.

By RAndy

June 30, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

Hey Ugly Side of Iraq!

Don’t you find it ironic that the wingnuts who scream “innocent” and “fair trial” when US troops are accused of crimes are the same wankers who think shooting anyone in a warzone who isn’t wearing a uniform’s perfectly okay?

The venal stupidity of these subhumans leaves Americans speechless.

By buff

June 30, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

Usatoday just ate some crow. They now admit that there was no evidence that Verizon or Bellsouth gave the NSA any data. The media, in this 24/7 cycle makes enormous errors. Popular Mechanics did a four month study of all the inaccuracies, still many not corrected, that the media made during Hurricane Katrina, and the aftermath. The article is available in the March 2006 online edition, if interested

By Trigger happy losers

June 30, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this

The wingnuts who think its okay to wipe out civilians while on patrol… you know, just in case… should really think about how this practice is making the US sooo popular!

The Wreckage in the China Shop

By Bob Herbert

The New York Times - Published: June 29, 2006

After all the sound and fury of the past few years, how is the U.S. doing in its fight against terrorism?

Not too well, according to a recent survey of more than 100 highly respected foreign policy and national security experts.

84 percent of the respondents said the United States was not winning the war on terror, and 86 percent said the world was becoming more — not less — dangerous for Americans.

Why Americans and the world think Repukes are so dangerous.

(Thanks Goldie)

By @@

June 30, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

Buff:

I read both of those articles. You really do have to search hard for the truth these days. Hell, it almost constitutes a full-time job.

By The Ugly Side of Iraq We Aren't Supposed to See

June 30, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

RAndy: The wingnuts don’t give a good G— Damn about the troops. It’s all a big charade of wrapping themselves in a flag that they soil by even mentioning. THEY ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN RAKING IN WAR PROFITS FROM SELLING WAR SUPPLIES AND GETTING OUR SOLDIERS KILLED IN ORDER TO LINE THEIR POCKETS WITH BLOOD MONEY.

By buff

June 30, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this

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The 24/7 news cycle and competition is making the news media highly untrustworthy. We used to never hear news outlets saying “an unnamed source,” or “a source close to the administration” even mentioned, let alone being seen as credible. Both of those could, and I am sure in many instances are, just “made up” to break a story

By @@

June 30, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

Absolutely Buff. If I had critical information that was important to this nation’s security, I would have the courage to not only name it, but claim it. It certainly arouses my suspicions. I don’t understand why others don’t see the shadowy implications.

Have a good one. I’ve got to head out. Tell Cliff and the ladies “Hi” from OO.

By buff

June 30, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

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You got it, have a good one

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 30, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

The reason sources won’t come out is because they would either be fired or slandered or the administration would attempt to ruin their lives like Joe Wilson/Valerie Plame. Plenty of generals and CIA operatives have already left public office in order to tell the truth- something they couldn’t do while employed by our current government. And I’m not talking about revealing classified information (the administration does enough of that through strategic leaks); I’m talking about giving an honest assessment of events. That shows you how rampant corruption is in the current administration when spin is everything, but telling the truth will ruin your career and your life.

By Al Qaeda Is Out In Force Here Today

June 30, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

And they got the same old boring bullsh-it, yawn.

American troops are murderers, that’s nice, it’s easy for you to say from the safety of your self abusing masturbatory computer, try that sh-it in a public place, finch.

M———F———.

By N-GA

June 30, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

Great toon, Mike….one of your finest. I expect to see it re-printed in Newsweek. Both the message and the artwork are spot-on!!!

I wish you were able to articulate the severe division in the Supreme Court. While I view this as a victory for Democracy worldwide, I suspect many of us will feel differently when Alito votes with the other cons.

By Rednecks - American Al Qaeda

June 30, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

Great cartoon Mike -

Dumbya is one of those yippy little dogs that barks like crazy but leaves a puddle on the floor and runs like hell when the big dog barks back.

A chickenhawk and coward, that’s our Dumbya.

By Rednecks - American Al Qaeda

June 30, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

Of course, most American soldiers are decent hardworking patriotic folk, but since they are products of our redneck violent cowboy culture, we have to expect deviant behavior from many of them some of the time, and from some of them all the time.

By You mean like this....

June 30, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

Gas Chamber

By We Support The Troops! Until They Turn Their Backs To Us

June 30, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this

Let’s show our support by slandering them!

Let’s accuse them of murder even though they haven’t been convicted!

Let’s abandon them in the field, cut and run!

Let’s call them baby killers based on the word of an Iranian terrorist.

It’s the Great Hate America Weekend!

We hate displays of civic pride, let’s take it out on the troops!

Let’s publish articles in the paper giving up their secrets!

Let’s disclose their locations to the whole world!

With friends like us they won’t need anymore enemies!

By buff

June 30, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

By One

This started well before Bush was in office. There were many instances during the Clinton Admin, and even going back to Reagan. So, no, it is not fear of Bush, and in many cases I suspect pure fabrication

By USA Today

June 30, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

Dear Readers:

In our rush to disclose secrets about America’s ability to protect itself from our, er, from Al Qaeda’a soldiers, we have once again provided you with false information. We know it is indistinquishable from all the other lies that we print but we got called out on this one, so we have to give it up.

The phone records story was bullsh-it. We lied. Blow us.

Till the next lie!

By Emergency Room Clean Up Staff

June 30, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

Gaawwd I hate cleaning up after surgery on a liberal. Those bleeding egos make a helluva mess.

By your oedipus complex

June 30, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

hey Andy… YOure a coward!! You favor gunning down civilians on the slim chance a few could be ‘enemy combatants’!!! Thoughts of a true chickenhawk!

And when you get really get bent, you accuse everyone of calling Americans babykillers! What a crock! Youre accusing others of doing what you want to do!!! And you DO, don’t you? Rat-tat-tat!! Creaming all over just thinking about it!

Go play with your mother, you fool.

By American justice

June 30, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

Two years ago, the US government said it could not find the men that Guantánamo detainee Abdullah Mujahid believes could help set him free. The Guardian found them in three days.

Or… why Gitmo is a cancer on the US reputation for justice.

PS - He’s still there.

Charge up that electronic fence! The little Bushie-dog could get onery!

By Kill them all.........

June 30, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

and let God sort them out.

By What civil war?

June 30, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Iraqi and U.S.-led coalition forces clashed with gunmen northeast of Baghdad after armed Shiites attacked a convoy of Sunni villagers in retaliation for a suicide attack, officials said Friday.

According to Fox, there are unconfirmed reports that militas are operating under Andy’s Rules of Engagement. If it’s not in uniform, and it moves.. shoot it.

By I Got Nothing For finch At 5:42

June 30, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

And whatever else this weirdo is trying to prove at 5:53, 5:50, 5:16. This person has got some problems.

Major problems.

By Speaking Of Baby Killers

June 30, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

Did y’all liberals get Andrea Yates out of prison yet?:

But boomer narcissism knows no bounds. So, for the new generation of sob sisters, infanticide is an understandable byproduct of the burdens of contemporary lifestyle. And, if we’re all guilty, then no one is. Conversely, if we’re all insane, then no one is, except the last poor boob who insists on standing up in court and taking personal responsibility for his actions - like Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, whose insistence that he be tried as a sane man was taken as conclusive proof of his insanity: after all, you’d have to be insane not to plead insanity, right?

So it goes with Andrea and her lawyer, who’s upbeat about her prospects of beating the rap. She’s being tried for quintuple homicide: she killed five people, consecutively, and then called her husband at the office to invite him back to take a look.-SteynOnLine

By How not to spead Democracy

June 30, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

If you want to see the failure of the Bush Administration/Neocon war on terror, you need look no further than Africa and Lebanon. Even though the CIA had been warning for years that the Horn of Africa was a strategic target of Al Qaeda, and even though the Bush Administration and its neocon intellectual brain trust had freely flogged the Clinton Administration for showing American weakness in Somalia, the administration failed over five years to establish a strong economic development and regional military presence in the area. Right under Cheney’s nose, while he was fixated on a threat that didn’t exist in Iraq, Al Qaeda and Islamic extremism has now taken hold of Somalia.

The only things the Bushies are good at speading are promises, threats and lies.

By He's still in the closet

June 30, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

How else to explain a nonsensical non-starting nonsequiter subject like Andrea whatsis. True fact: Andrea was a campaign worker for Katherine Harris in her successful bid to unseat Florida Secretary of State Sandra Mortham in 1998 before she killed her kids.

Maybe the poster who loves dead baby stories wanted to point out that Andrea operated by Andy’s rules. If it’s not in uniform, and it moves… kill it.

And then go play with your mother.

By Ignorant Liberals

June 30, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this

By How not to spead Democracy June 30, 2006 06:33 PM Right under Cheney’s nose, while he was fixated on a threat that didn’t exist in Iraq, Al Qaeda and Islamic extremism has now taken hold of Somalia.

Blah, blah, blah, what a jack off.

UNITED NATIONS OPERATION IN SOMALIA

Somalia: UN Humanitarian, Development, Political & Peace Efforts Has There Been any Tangible UN Assisted Developmental Projects in Somalia? Of all the So-called UN Pet Projects in Somalia, Did the UN Participate, Assist and/or Strengthen any Private Somali Enterprises? Has the UN Improved any Existing Infrastructure or Help Create New Ones?

Your beloved international community f’ked this up, as-s wipe.

Maybe they shouldn’t have raped so many children?

You reckon?

By How to Deal With Repugs

June 30, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

Let the bodies hit the floor.

By Proof, Wanker?

June 30, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this

By He’s still in the closet June 30, 2006 06:47 PM True fact: Andrea was a campaign worker for Katherine Harris in her successful bid to unseat Florida Secretary of State Sandra Mortham in 1998 before she killed her kids.

Show me anything, even the Puffington Host couldn’t back that up.

Even if it was true, Conservatives dumped this monster a long time ago, and now the pinkos have taken up her cause:

Since Yates’ 2002 conviction, which was overturned on appeal, several other Texas mothers have killed their children and been found not guilty by reason of insanity.-SanFranciscoChronicle

See, I deal with the truth.

Liberals don’t.

By A Baby Killer The Libs Love

June 30, 2006 07:09 PM | Link to this

“More people know it’s a brain disorder and not just something you can snap out of,” said Betsy Schwartz, director of the Mental Health Association of Greater Houston. “We can only hope the jury will have a keen awareness of the chemistry and physiology of what was going on in Andrea Yates’ brain when this happened.”-SeattleTimes

I’ll stand by our nation’s soldiers.

You stand by the human filth like this monster because it’s what you are.

By A Baby Killer The Libs Can Wrap Their Arms Around

June 30, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this

Katie Couric of NBC’s “Today” show announces on the air how viewers can contribute to the legal defense fund for Andrea Yates, the Texas woman who allegedly drowned her five children.-WallStreetJournal

By Who Sticks Up For Child Molestors, Huh, Huh?

June 30, 2006 07:22 PM | Link to this

Liberals do!:

The Southern Center for Human Rights and the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia filed a lawsuit last week claiming enforcement of the bus stop rule would drive thousands of sex offenders from their homes. The lawsuit contends the law is unconstitutional because it banishes offenders. The next court hearing is scheduled for July 11.-AtlantaJournalConstitution

By Who Sticks Up For Child Molestors, Huh, Huh?

June 30, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

Liberals do!:

BOSTON — The American Civil Liberties Union will represent a group that advocates sex between men and boys in a lawsuit brought by the family of a slain 10-year-old.

By Who Sticks Up For Child Molestors, Huh, Huh?

June 30, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this

Liberals do!:

The case is New York Vs Ferber, 458 U.S. 747. The ACLU in an amicus brief to the Supreme Court argued that the possession of child pornography should be legalized.

By Who Sticks Up For Child Molestors, Huh, Huh?

June 30, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this

Liberals do!

The American Civil Liberties Union-Indiana, suing initially on behalf of a female inmate, had filed a class-action lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the policy. The Indiana Department of Correction imposed the policy in 2001, stating that inmates with a record of sex offenses involving children “shall not be permitted to receive visits from minors.” The agency amended the rule a year later to allow some visits under certain conditions, including one that the intended visitor had not been a victim of the offender.

According to court records, visitations occur in areas with 25 to 30 tables and as many as 100 people often supervised by a single guard. The agency knew of past incidents when children were sexually abused in visiting areas.

By Who Sticks Up For Child Molestors, Huh, Huh?

June 30, 2006 07:34 PM | Link to this

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) – famous (or infamous) for using the legal system to attack the Boy Scouts and Christmas – is now protecting the “right” of convicted child molesters and sexual predators to lurk near playgrounds and other places where children gather. Simply put, the ACLU, once famous for defending the rights of free speech, now attacks the Boy Scouts and argues in favor of giving child sexual predators easy access to our children and grandchildren. To add insult to injury, the ACLU uses our tax dollars to help fund these lawsuits.

By Who Sticks Up For Baby Killers, Huh, Huh?

June 30, 2006 07:37 PM | Link to this

Liberals do!:

Or how about after your son warded off the initial attempted assault, these sick SOBs killed your child by choking him with a gasoline saturated rag, then molested his corpse and discarded his carcass in a cement filled container? I’m guessing that would push most parents straight over the anger edge.

This scenario from hell is exactly what Mr. and Mrs. Curley, of Cambridge, Massachusetts, went through a few years ago in the kidnapping and murder of their son Jeffery and the subsequent civil suit they filled against nefarious NAMBLA, which the ACLU defended.

By Who Sticks Up For Child Molestors, Huh, Huh?

June 30, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

Liberals do!:

PROVIDENCE, RI — Responding to a complaint filed by the Rhode Island American Civil Liberties Union last September, the state’s Department of Education (DOE) issued an advisory to all school districts last week, instructing them to stop using a federally funded abstinence-only-until-marriage curriculum in the public schools. Today the ACLU hailed the development, arguing that the curriculum had raised serious privacy and discrimination concerns and needed to be stopped.

By Andy's Mom

June 30, 2006 10:01 PM | Link to this

What a tussle! I get distracted for just a moment and the boy goes absolutely nuts over pederasty! He spent almost two hours tonight gushing and spurting after getting called on his secret Andrea Yates family visions!

But I’m taking care of him, okay? We’re dealing with his oedipal kinks now. Nice and slow. And I really don’t mind when he murmurs “Andrea” over and over again.

It’s a good thing this place shuts down over the weekend. Oh, he’ll do his usual blog thing here, when he’s sure no one will bother him with confusing concepts like facts and common sense and staying on topic. He gets sooooo excited on his little soapbox, but I’ve taught him how to clean all the sticky stuff off the PC so it’s really not so bad. Such a passionate child.

But can y’all try to be kind to him on Monday? And maybe take a break on the 4th and make it our little Independence Day? Don’t criticize President Bush or what he’s doing in Iraq. Avoid even a hint of compassion or humor Try not to make fun of his silly links, and whatever you do, don’t mention s-e-x! Thank you!

By finch's Psychiatrist

July 1, 2006 06:04 AM | Link to this

Man, I need help. This patient of mine, I’m not even sure what name he goes by today, is completely unhinged. He’s an obsessive compulsive self abuser who stalks other men on political blogs. And I’m not talking about just ordinary stalking, like calling a women’s house and threatening her, no, this is far more sick than anything I’ve ever seen.

The whole focus of his life right now is some guy named Andy. This Andy person must be the most intelligent adversary ever, because that’s all finch ever talks about. He can’t sleep at night from the thrashing around and the cold sweats, the whole time it’s cries of Andy this and Andy that.

He gets up in the morning talking about I have to stop Andy or we have to do something about Andy, while his family weeps and suffers over his condition. They beg me, when he is not around, to make him well or to just go ahead and euthanize him, it’s that hard on them.

It’s at it’s worst on the AJC blogs, even his normal Thorazine injection has no affect on him. He impersonates this Andy person with drool running out of his mouth and a violent facial tic which has destroyed his jaw muscles, atrophied his teeth and sunken his face in like a corpse. It’s a frightful sight but his obsession has kept him at the computer and away from the mirror, who knows if he’s even aware?

Just last night, he impersonated this Andy’s family, tried desperately to structure his comments to match Andy’s, stole Andy’s name, changed his name so that he could respond to himself to some comment about Andy, posted wild ignorant things that made no sense hoping to discredit Andy, abused Andy’s friends when they questioned finch’s bizarre behaviour.

I’m afraid conditions like these do not get better, we are seriously going to either have to commit him to supervised care or perform a lobotomy.

I am at my wits end with this.

You want to know what’s really sad about all this? I’m not making it up.

By Andy, With finch Attached To My Leg

July 1, 2006 07:56 AM | Link to this

He seems happy down there.

**Morning Update!

Liberals really do support baby killers, look at what their soldiers do:

66 Killed in Car Bombing at Baghdad Market

Ambulances rushed to the scene and carried the victims to hospitals, where men cradled crying babies as doctors bandaged them. Rasoul Zaboun, an official from the Imam Ali Hospital in Sadr City, said 66 people were killed and 87 wounded.-MyWay

Where’s all the liberal outrage at? Is it only reserved for Americans? Can you not at least vocally condemn these acts?

Or do you get off on dead babies?

Let me clarify this real quick, should any American soldier be found guilty of a war crime, they should recieve the maximum punishment for it. Period.

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Crive By Media, caught in another lie:

USA Today: Call Database Not So Broad

Standard operating procedure?

Lie and then cry?

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This is what the enemy understands, strength:

Israel warns: free soldier or PM dies Middle East correspondent Martin Chulov July 01, 2006 ISRAEL last night threatened to assassinate Palestinian Prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh if Hamas militants did not release a captured Israeli soldier unharmed.-TheAustralian

Which is why we are still in Baghdad, our liberals are weak.

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From the safety of his cave, the Islamic Keyboard Kommando urges on his fighters:

Bin Laden vows to fight on-MyWay

He’s probably getting more American liberals fired up then he is suicide bombers.

Maybe someday you pinkos will take up arms for Bin Laden, your boy, no?

We wish you would.

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You mean “masterbates,” right?

United Nations Security Council debates Israeli incursion-WashingtonTimes

Real question is, what the F are you going to do about it? No children to rape, no oil to sell, no bribery, that pretty much excludes your participation, don’t it?

Oh, I know, let’s blame America, maybe they’ll clean up the mess for us.

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You can come and pick it up, what time can you be there?:

Bin Laden seeks Zarqawi’s body for Jordan burial-WashingtonTimes

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When President Bush arrived in Vienna last week, protesters bore “World’s No. 1 Terrorist” signs while chanting “We will, we will fight Bush.” A Harris Poll conducted prior to the president’s visit revealed that the European public thinks America is a greater global threat than either North Korea or Iran.-WashingtonTimesVictorDavisHansen

But until the Europeans’ dream world is shattered, we will hear nonstop screeching about American barbarity. Such outrage says far more about them than us.

At least until Germany invades them again and they need “Bush” to bail them out.

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I’ll be back.

By finch's Psychiatrist

July 1, 2006 07:58 AM | Link to this

Morning Update ^^^ Above

Man, I need help. This patient of mine, I’m not even sure what name he goes by today, is completely unhinged. He’s an obsessive compulsive self abuser who stalks other men on political blogs. And I’m not talking about just ordinary stalking, like calling a women’s house and threatening her, no, this is far more sick than anything I’ve ever seen.

The whole focus of his life right now is some guy named Andy. This Andy person must be the most intelligent adversary ever, because that’s all finch ever talks about. He can’t sleep at night from the thrashing around and the cold sweats, the whole time it’s cries of Andy this and Andy that.

He gets up in the morning talking about I have to stop Andy or we have to do something about Andy, while his family weeps and suffers over his condition. They beg me, when he is not around, to make him well or to just go ahead and euthanize him, it’s that hard on them.

It’s at it’s worst on the AJC blogs, even his normal Thorazine injection has no affect on him. He impersonates this Andy person with drool running out of his mouth and a violent facial tic which has destroyed his jaw muscles, atrophied his teeth and sunken his face in like a corpse. It’s a frightful sight but his obsession has kept him at the computer and away from the mirror, who knows if he’s even aware?

Just last night, he impersonated this Andy’s family, tried desperately to structure his comments to match Andy’s, stole Andy’s name, changed his name so that he could respond to himself to some comment about Andy, posted wild ignorant things that made no sense hoping to discredit Andy, abused Andy’s friends when they questioned finch’s bizarre behaviour.

I’m afraid conditions like these do not get better, we are seriously going to either have to commit him to supervised care or perform a lobotomy.

I am at my wits end with this.

You want to know what’s really sad about all this? I’m not making it up.

By RW-(the original)

July 1, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

Well look ^ ^ ^ ^ at punk Daniel crying out to his tiny support group that I am being mean to him. Daniel, until you apologize to our troops for accusing them of shooting babies in the backs of their heads for fun you’ll get no respect from me. At least you have “One of the deluded moonbats” and “rushncap” on your side. There’s a triumvirate for you.

finch’s Psychiatrist,

Talk about being bogged down in a quagmire. Maybe this patient is too far gone. I’d hate to see others go without the help they could use, while you spend all your time on this completely lost cause.

finch,

In all seriousness, seek help.

By Andy, With finch Attached To My Leg

July 1, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

Cave boy speaks out, again:

“Stay steadfast and don’t leave Baghdad, otherwise all the capitals in the region will fall to the crusaders.”-AP

Please, oh please don’t leave Iraq! Don’t give up now! Don’t go hide in a cave in some faraway country safe from the guns of the Americans and free Iraqis! Be brave and die before the infidels! Hello? Anybody still listening to me? Hello?

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“We cannot continue to operate in a system where the government takes steps to counter terrorism while the media actively works to disclose those operations without any regard for protection of lives, sources and legal methods,” Sen. Pat Roberts said in Washington-BreitBart

Unless of course you’re on the terrorist’s side.

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Overlooked in the secret program to keep tabs on the trillions of dollars that whiz through SWIFT in Belgium is the low cost of major al Qaeda and copycat terrorist incidents to date: an estimated $30,000 for the 1998 U.S. Embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi; $10,000 for the 2000 attack on the USS Cole that killed 17 U.S. sailors and immobilized a $1 billion warship for two years with a repair bill of $250 million; $500,000 for the September 11, 2001 attacks on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon; $50,000 for the attacks on commuter trains in Madrid March 11, 2004; and $35,000 for the 2005 attacks on a London bus and subway train.

Such amounts would have been pepper-corn change among SWIFT’s trillions. For al Qaeda, hawala is fast, reliable and secure.-WashingtonTimes

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Wrote Justice Scalia: “[The majority’s] conclusion is patently erroneous.” Justice Thomas: Hamdan “openly flouts our well-established duty to respect the executive’s judgment in matters of military operations and foreign affairs.” More of Justice Thomas’ anger: “We are not engaged in a traditional battle with a nation-state, but with a worldwide, hydra-headed enemy, who lurks in the shadows conspiring to reproduce the atrocities of September 11, 2001, and who has boasted of sending suicide bombers into civilian gatherings, has proudly distributed videotapes of beheadings of civilian workers and has tortured and dismembered captured American soldiers.?

Justices Scalia, Thomas and Alito get it, and that’s why they are this week’s Nobles.-WashingtonTimes

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Bush lied, eh?:

At a House Armed Services Committee hearing Thursday, the Defense Intelligence Agency head, Lt. Gen. Michael Maples, said that although the Iraqi chemical weapons were in degraded condition, they were still “a danger in Iraq for those who could come in contact with them.” Use “outside of Iraq could not be ruled out,” he added.

The NGIC commander, Col. John Chiu, testified that “regardless of the purity … any remaining agent is toxic, with potential to be lethal.”InvestorsBusinessDaily

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Citing the United Nations resolutions that called for destruction of all of Hussein’s banned weapons, Hunter added that “the verified existence of such chemical weapons” proves they were not destroyed and “in part because of such violations, we voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq.”-WashingtonPost

Of course, this is too hard for a liberal to understand. They can’t just accept things at face value, especially if it exposes the last 3 years of their covert operations against the United States as a sham.

Nope, this won’t work, will just spin around with this and, viola, it has to be fresh! WMD or it doesn’t count!

But Rep. Ike Skelton (Mo.), the senior Democrat on the committee, countered that the NGIC report did not address Baghdad’s prewar chemical weapons program. Rather, he said, it was “written to address the force protection concerns of our service members in Iraq.”

Say what?

See what I mean?

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But if Hamas wants to be equated with Hezbollah or define itself as at war with Israel, then Israel has every right to try to destroy the Islamic movement’s military capacity, to capture its leaders (it has arrested more than 60 since Wednesday, including eight cabinet ministers) and to topple its government. Isn’t that what happens in war?-WashingtonPost

Not in one that’s hamstrung by a bunch of pinko liberals.

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Ann Coulter, whose book, “Godless, The Church of Liberalism,” has reached runaway best-seller status, won’t back down on comments made about bombing the New York Times main office building in Manhattan.

Asked if she would recant her “bomb the New York Times” remark by Alan Colmes during her appearance last Thursday night on Fox News, Coulter said she stood by her comment. “No, I think the Timothy McVeigh line was merely prescient after the New York Times has leapt beyond — beyond nonsense straight into treason, last week,” Coulter said.-NewsMax

Alright, let’s hear all the stupid manufactured outrage, all of the faux indignation.

Al Franken told Matt Lauer on NBC’s “Today” show that Karl Rove and Lewis Libby should be “executed.” The comment drew a laugh from Lauer. Franken’s comments drew no criticism from the major media, including NBC News.

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“The New York Times points cranks, radicals, al-Qaida operatives and would-be assassins to the summer homes of [V.P. Dick] Cheney and [Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld” writes FrontPage Magazine’s David Horowitz, who sees the June 30 Times feature article as an apparent retaliation for administration “criticism of the Times’ disclosure of classified intelligence to America’s enemies.”

In the “Escapes” section of the June 30 edition, the N.Y. Times printed huge color photos of the vacation residences of Cheney and Rumsfeld, “identifying the small Maryland town where they live, showing their front driveways and, in Rumsfeld’s case, actually pointing out the hidden security camera in case any hostile intruders should get careless,” Horowitz writes.-NewsMax

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For once I agree with Bill O’Reilly:

There is no question that some media and politicians are playing politics with the security of the American people. There’s no reason on earth that folks need to know how the CIA is legally tracking the money flow to suspected terrorists. And nobody is being tortured at Guantanamo Bay, either. The International Red Cross has an office located a few yards from the prisoners’ cells. Most of the hysteria generated by the “civil rights” crowd is nonsense, designed to marginalize an administration it can’t stand.

By All American Gathering, Pinko Free

July 1, 2006 09:20 PM | Link to this

Upon arrival, Cheney’s motorcade went around the track at a relative crawl of 60 mph, passing fans on the infield who waved flags for their favorite drivers. Then Cheney attended the pre-race meeting, where he got a standing ovation from the drivers and their crews and his excited staff took pictures with Dale Earnhardt Jr.

Just as the race was about to start, Cheney took to the stage in front of a large U.S. flag and the drivers and delivered a patriotic message to more than 100,000 fans.

“On Independence Day weekend, we’re reminded how fortunate we are to live in freedom and to call this nation our home,” Cheney said to loud cheers.

By Andy, With finch Attached To My Leg

July 2, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this

Isn’t it good to know that the Muslims have finally, after 5 years of bloody suicide attacks, beheadings and car bombings, gotten around to condemning the violence against innocents?:

Muslim Group Condemns Reports of U.S. Rape-WashingtonTimes

Such bravery.

Knowing full well that some American Iman ain’t going to declare you an infidel and have some brainwashed maniac saw your head off.

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Raise fuel economy standards now- By Dianne Feinstein/ Olympia Snowe

Raising CAFE standards to 35 miles per gallon would save drivers as much as $2,500 dollars over the life of the vehicle — more than enough to recoup the cost of more efficient vehicles.-WashingtonTimes

Haha, a Rhino and a pinko, like they’re looking out for your well being.

Bring your own little slice of San Francisco home to you.

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Botswana shares a heritage with Zimbabwe, for it, too, was a British colony. What it doesn’t share with Zimbabwe explains its success: the rule of law, minimal corruption and, most of all, respect for private property rights. No amount of western foreign aid can bring about the political and socioeconomic climate necessary for economic growth. Instead, foreign aid allows vicious dictators to remain in power. It enables them to buy the allegiance of cronies and the military equipment to oppress their own people, not to mention being able to set up “retirement” accounts in Swiss banks. The best thing westerners can do for Africa is to keep their money and their economic development “experts.”-WashingtonTimes

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Merchant ships devised as nuclear bombs also could include the launching a missile from a freighter off our shores. Iran is assessed to have this capability. Such a launch would go largely undetected.-WashingtonTimes

Just something to think about.

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If you give more than $12,000 a year to your children or grandchildren, then you will owe the IRS a gift tax. If you give the money to total strangers, on the other hand, you are entitled to a tax deduction. The tax rules get even stranger when you die.

If you end up having saved too much, then your heirs will effectively bear the estate tax on those assets plus an endless stream of future taxes on any interest, dividends and capital gains from those assets. If you give those assets to a foundation, however, then the assets will be completely removed from the U.S. tax base — forever. Foundations are the ultimate tax loophole.-WashingtonTimes

Warren Buffet, Bill Clinton’s economic advisor, the Enron of tax cheats, praised by the pinkos, the galling hypocrisy.

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Some “consensus,” but even this statement is suspect, coming from the mouth of a liar like Algore:

The media rarely help, of course. When Newsweek featured global warming in a 1988 issue, it was claimed that all scientists agreed. Periodically thereafter it was revealed that although there had been lingering doubts beforehand, now all scientists did indeed agree. Even Mr. Gore qualified his statement on ABC only a few minutes after he made it, clarifying things in an important way. When Mr. Stephanopoulos confronted Mr. Gore with the fact that the best estimates of rising sea levels are far less dire than he suggests in his movie, Mr. Gore defended his claims by noting that scientists “don’t have any models that give them a high level of confidence” one way or the other and went on to claim—in his defense—that scientists “don’t know… . They just don’t know.”-OpinionJournal

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BY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

There are several ways to fight a war. On the one hand, you can put on a uniform, climb into a tank, rumble across a field and fire on the other fellows’ tank. On the other, you can find a 12-year-old girl, persuade her to try on your new suicide-bomber belt and send her waddling off into the nearest pizza parlor.

The Geneva Conventions were designed to encourage the former and discourage the latter. The thinking behind them was that, if one had to have wars, it’s best if they’re fought by soldiers and armies. In return for having a rank and serial number and dressing the part, you’ll be treated as a lawful combatant should you fall into the hands of the other side. There’ll always be a bit of skulking around in street garb among civilian populations, but the idea was to ensure that it would not be rewarded —that there would, in fact, be a downside for going that route.

The U.S. Supreme Court has now blown a hole in the animating principle behind the Geneva Conventions by choosing to elevate an enemy that disdains the laws of war in order to facilitate the bombing of civilian targets and the beheading of individuals.

Liberals don’t support baby killers, eh?

By Andy, With finch Attached To My Leg

July 2, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

The Afternoon Round Up:

Treason Times Keller: Terrorists Knew of Banking Story

Excuses, excuses. Losing confidence in the ole decision, are we?

How in the hell would he know anyway, unless he’s talking directly to or he is a terrorist?

Reading their minds?

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Notably, bin Laden’s voice in the 19-minute recording was much stronger than in the message that appeared Friday on the Web, reflecting the defiance of its content.-AP

Oooh, oooh, he sounds so stwong. He’s so wough and tough, talking sh-it from his cave. Begging people to blow themselves up, while he’s in relative safety of a whole nuther country.

Sounds like he’s getting desperate to me.

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Sounds like poor little Steve Chapman, “Conservative,” has a bad case of sour grapes:

The second: 0. That’s how much chance there is that the Supreme Court will stop this endless, insatiable and alarmingly successful effort to prevent voters from deciding elections.

The Framers of the Constitution may have accepted gerrymandering as a necessary evil. But no one in those days could have dreamed how far it would be taken by unscrupulous partisans armed with modern technology intent on neutralizing the central element of American democracy. Thanks to the Supreme Court, they have only just begun.-RealClearPolitics

Waaaahhhhhh!!!!

Gosh, how convenient that he forgot the liberal democrats were the first ones to do this.

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Climate change can wait. World health can’t- With $50bn, we could make the planet a better place but money spent on global warming would be wasted-TheObserver

Providing micronutrient-rich dietary supplements to the malnourished was their second-highest priority. More than half the world suffers from deficiencies of iron, iodine, zinc or vitamin A, so cheap solutions such as nutrient fortification have an exceptionally high ratio of benefits to costs.

The panel examined proposals relating to climate change, including implementing the Kyoto Protocol and taxing carbon dioxide emissions. All ranked badly. Spending the world’s limited resources combating climate change would achieve good, but would cost more than it would achieve. That money could be better spent elsewhere.

I wonder why the libs want to spend all of our money on the myth of “global warming?”

Are they really trying to help the world?

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Barela, the company commander, concedes the approach carries added risks, but says his Marines try to vigorously follow tactics that make them “hard to kill.” Several Marines in the company have been wounded but none have been killed.

“We’ve risked a lot to put ourselves in contact with the Iraqi people,” Barela said.-WashingtonTimes

By RW-(the original)

July 2, 2006 08:20 PM | Link to this

Do you think ml knows that his site is being corrupted by an ad for a documentary that tries to tell the truth about Islam? For you moonbats here, a documentary is a film effort showing true events and interpreting them. Please don’t confuse that with the staged events Michael Moore calls a documentary or the ravings of a mad lunatic that wants you to believe that Kansas will be underwater next week if you don’t elect him President.

By Mark

July 5, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

All humans have rights. The right to be charged and tried for a crime is an essential one. Just think of the abuses that could take place if this protection was not in place.

I know it stings you conservatives, but just remember that giving basic rights to even our worst enemies is what makes our country a symbol of freedom and justice. We gain nothing in the war on terror if we act like terrorists.

We must act in the interest of human rights, liberty and justice FOR ALL, no matter what someone is accused of. That is what seperates us from them. If we fail to do this, then the terrorist have achieved an enormous victory: forcing us to abandon our most precious values.