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The last refuge?
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By Andy's One And Only Post, Wanker Free
June 29, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this
The Justice Department should prosecute the officials who leaked the TFTP story and the Times-niks who publicized it. There is nothing funny about making it easier for al-Qaeda and its allies to turn Americans into body parts. Handcuffing a few disloyal newsmen and their bureaucratic sources for aiding and comforting our wartime enemies will telegraph this message.
Average Americans should punish the Times’ transgressions. Boycotting this nationally distributed paper is the easiest way to sock this snotty rag right where it smarts: in the wallet.-HumanEvents
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But at the same time, his (Filthy Mouth Murtha) outspokenness made him a huge target for the Internet right. His district went for John Kerry with only 51% in 2004. What originally seemed like a long-shot bid by Diana Irey (R.) to unseat Murtha has taken on new credibility as she raises money from the Internet and as Murtha makes more and more outrageous statements.RobertNovakHumanEvents
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For one thing, it would hardly be unprecedented to have people who opposed the United States on the battlefield — including those who fought against and killed American soldiers — going unprosecuted. During World War II, for example, senior German and Japanese officials were tried and executed for committing war crimes. But the overwhelming majority of German and Japanese soldiers were not prosecuted — regardless of whether they had killed Allied soldiers in combat. Similar points can be made about the aftermath of the Civil War, in which individual Confederate soldiers were by and large not prosecuted. Achieving national unity and reconciliation was deemed a higher priority than the idea of holding each soldier accountable for each Union battlefield death.-WashingtonTimes
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In a way the modern Times is playing to a base, the Upper West Side of Manhattan, and the redoubts of the Upper West Side throughout America: affluent urban neighborhoods and suburbs. The paper plays not to a region but a class. Common sense tells you that when the actual physical safety of Americans is threatened by extremists who’ve declared a holy war, and when those extremists have, or can get, terrible weapons that can kill thousands or tens of thousands or more, and when the American government is trying to keep them from doing what they’d like to do, which, again, is kill—then you’d think twice, thrice, 10 times before you tell the world exactly how the government is trying, in its own bumbling way, which is how governments do things, to keep innocent people safe and bad guys on the run.-OpinionJournal
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This inveterate windbag is, according to the New York Times, reopening the Swift Boat controversy of 2004 that did such damage to his presidential prospects when hundreds of the Vietnam War veterans who served with him deflated his reckless boasts of military gloire. He has undertaken this quixotic mission claiming that he can repristinate his military record despite the Swifties’ evidence against it. Then the delusory senator from Massachusetts seems to think he will be a shoo-in for the presidency in 2008.
Now these veterans are being harassed by the senator’s supporters with crank calls in the night and venomous postings on the liberal website HuffingtonPost.com. On that celebrity-ridden site the names and personal information of more than a dozen Swift Boat veterans were posted by such “trusted” Huffington Post celebrities as “SatanLivesinUSA.” Could this be Barbra Streisand’s username? At any rate, this eminence wrote on June 24: “SwiftBoatVets who need some Black Ops done on them. I have some very good ideas I gleaned from ‘CIA BOOK of DIRTY TRICKS’ Don’t get mad, get EVEN.”.- AmericanSpectator
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It hasn’t been the best of times for Tom DeLay, who resigned from Congress this year under ethical and political pressure. But the former House Majority Leader must take some consolation from yesterday’s Supreme Court decision that largely validated the 2003 Texas redistricting he helped engineer and that so infuriated Democrats that they made him a special political target.-OpinionJournal
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The pacifism of the European Union was supposed to be a post-Cold War model of liberal reason for the rest of the world. Instead, Islamic fascists have either ignored Europe’s human-rights advocacy or considered it a sign of weakness to be exploited. An impotent E.U. is embarrassed and needs cheap targets like Guantanamo to transfer attention away from its past naivete about the dangers of Islamic fascism.
By ankle-biting America on Guantanamo, the Europeans sound moral and tough while ignoring the real dangers for which they have absolutely no solutions - unassimilated and angry Muslims, the Dutch and Danes under assault by radical Islamic censors and a defenseless Europe potentially soon in range of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s nuclear-tipped missiles.-RealClearPolitics
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Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon said that Meshaal - even in Syria - was a target for Israeli action. We should encourage Israel to strike into Syria, and not just to capture or kill Meshaal. Destabilizing Syria, and thus destabilizing its support for terrorism in Israel and Iraq is the goal. If anyone chooses to equate “destabilization” with “regime change”, we should do nothing to encourage or dissuade them. It’s time to put the terrorist genie back in the bottle. If the genie won’t comply, we may soon have to smash the bottle all to pieces.-RealClearPolitics
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And even as the body of Coretta Scott King lay in state, the Democrats could not resist using her funeral as a way of being uncivil to President Bush. Who can forget the Reverend Joseph Lowery choosing to eclipse what should have been a heartfelt eulogy in order to remind the audience that “We know now there were no weapons of mass destruction over there”? Or, ex-President Jimmy Carter,choosing the reflective occasion to hurl gratuitous remarks in the president’s direction? Once again, President Bush took the high road, embracing Lowery and speaking dignified, respectful and healing words about Mrs. King. Class versus crass.
President Bush had it right when he said, “America is a great force for freedom and prosperity. Yet our greatness is not measured in power or luxuries, but by who we are and how we treat one another.” Now that’s class.-RealClearPolitics
By George
June 29, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this
I’ll bet Andy won’t have anything to say on topic about this toon.
By Think B 4 U Speak!
June 29, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this
That’s a good one! Can’t wait to see how the lunatics react to this one. Somehow I get the feeling we are going back to Iraq and Torture.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this
Ha-ha, Lucko — good one today! And that Congressman looks stunned on the ground after he’s been revealed to be such a hater of Americans and their belief in the U.S. Constitution.
By Wrong Again
June 29, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this
George: If you are going to be the blog scold maybe you could try to keep up, no?
Beating cartoon boy to the punch
BTW: “writing” books about, my bad.
By Think B 4 U Speak!
June 29, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this
EDINBURG, Texas (AP) — A political consultant whose company was behind a television ad accusing the Clinton-Gore administration of giving away nuclear technology was convicted of child molestation charges.
Another stellar human being! I think all violent criminals and sex offenders should go to Gitmo. The really bad ones - Abu Ghraib.
By Think B 4 U Speak!
June 29, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this
JERUSALEM (CNN) — Striking from the air, land and the sea, Israeli forces Thursday fired on Gaza in the midst of intensified operations against Palestinian militants who have been holding an Israeli soldier captive for four days, the Israel Defense Forces said.
Gotta love those Israelis!
By @@
June 29, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this
Well ml’s husband (not in the biblical sense) is finally wearing shorts. I guess it got a little hot in ^^^ the box. I’m not going to comment on WHY the amendment was up for a vote. That’s speculative.
I will say that burning the flag in protest isn’t something I appreciate. Hell, I’ll bet that the women who burned their bras in the 60’s could have accomplished their goal without having to suffer sagging boobs later on. To each his own.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this
Yet our greatness is not measured in power or luxuries, but by who we are and how we treat one another.
Yeah Andy— like how we treat the Iraqi citizens by bombing them into “democracy”? Now that’s some kind of “greatness”, huh? Or how about Abu Ghraib and Gitmo — some more “greatness” coming from W’s policies? The latest poll taken worldwide shows that more countries view America as the bigger threat to the world, rather than North Korea with its nuclear ambitions. See how “great” your guy Bush has made America now?
By Think B 4 U Speak!
June 29, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON — The House agreed Wednesday to affirm the right of voters in areas with large populations of non-English-speaking citizens to cast ballots in their native language. -FoxNews
There goes the neighborhood. If only the Italians and other immigrants of days past had only known. Our kids better brush up on that Spanish.
By Getitright
June 29, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this
Mikey says, “Their brand of torture is light-years beyond anything the United States has been accused of doing.” But he portrays our troops through the same hate-America filter that the terrorist do. Let’s count up the death toll, again! How many terrorists have been killed and mutilated while incarcerated by the US? NONE. How many of the US service personnel captured by the cowardly terrorists have been killed, beheaded and mutilated? ALL OF THEM
Join the chorus, Mike’s got to go
Mike’s got to go,
Mike’s got to go
By sickofsleaze
June 29, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this
As a patriotic American and the wife of a carreer Army soldier at first I was all for the Flag Amendment then I saw how it was being used for cheap politics and began thinking. Our flag is stong enough to survive any attacks on it from Ft McHenry from which our National Anthem was born to all the other crises it has faced. It is strong enough to stand on its owen without self-serving politicians passing laws “protecting” it.
By Patriotic Foreskin
June 29, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this
The reason the Dittoheadwounds want to ban flagburning is because they keep wrapping themselves up in the flag like the refuge seeking scoundrels they are. (Star Jones, the View)
By Think B 4 U Speak!
June 29, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this
Getitright - Get over it dude! It’s a cartoon - one that you take WAYYYY to seriously.
By @@
June 29, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this
O.K., I’m giving this some thought. Government has banned Americans from “lighting up in public”, and restrictions are placed on burning yard debris. But “Old Glory” is “tinder” for free expression. Words express, visuals impress. Oh really!!!
By Think B 4 U Speak!
June 29, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this
Like I said yesterday. You can burn the flag if you want, but don’t be surprised when a vet rearranges your dental work!
By Patriotic Foreskin
June 29, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this
Hi @@! How’s the coffee this morning? Women burned their bras. Men burned their draft cards. Wives burned the toast, and dropouts burned their bridges. The sixties. The baby boomers. We all tried to look like the beatles. (that worked out). Then we started interpreting their lyrics as an excuse to drop acid. I knew this one girl who dropped acid every friday night in high school. I met her at 23, and there was nothing left. Somehow I escaped acid. I never knew anyone taking it during the sixties. I only witnessed in the ‘70’s the vestiges of personalites that got burned along with the bras and the draft cards in the ‘60’s. Do not drop acid, @@. No matter how much fun it seems. Dont do it.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this
Join the chorus, Mike’s got to go
Getit— Mike has every right to submit the cartoon of his choosing to his boss. This is still America (as far as I can tell today), and Mike has the right to his own opinion, whether you agree or not. Or wait a minute — did the right-wingnuts in Congress get rid of the Bill of Rights yesterday? I must have missed that part of the news.
All true Americans say “Mike needs to stay!”
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this
How many terrorists have been killed and mutilated while incarcerated by the US? NONE.
Getitright— maybe your Faux News sources say so, but there’s other voices (including plenty of Iraqis) out there saying that Americans have killed some of its prisoners while “interrogating” them. Go to Google and put in “Iraq war prison torture” and look at all of the info there for you to see…
By Patriotic Foreskin
June 29, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this
Ralph Reed showed up last night to address the discussion group called the “Brain Train”, a forum that proposes a rail link between Athens and Atlanta. Since when does the Train listen to anything the Caboose has to say?
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this
Think B4— I agree with you. The way some right-wingers carry on day after day about “the cartoon” reminds me of the Islamic extremists burning and rampaging in Denmark last year about their “cartoon”… is that where America is headed now? Not on my watch!
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this
Did I see an attack ad on TV about Ralph Reed being an Enron consultant before they busted? Or is he the one who was in cahoots with Jack Abramoff while stealing all that money from the American Indians? I get all of those wonderful GA Republicans mixed up — any light y’all can share about what Ralph Reed’s really about?
By Patriotic Foreskin
June 29, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this
Goldie, I hate to tell you this, but you dont agree with ThinkB4. He proposes terrorist assaults against the free expression of flagburning. He is the American Taliban’s worker ant. But I will defend his right to swarm to the “last drop of your blood”. (moe, 1939)
You cant write this stuff, folks. It has to happen by itself.
By moonbat betty
June 29, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this
Hey Goldie, how about the Big Guy using state prisoners to do work for his company and Cox doesn’t believe in getting rid of state sales tax on food and doesn’t support lottery for education. Which one are you voting for?
By You Seem To Be Confused, Again
June 29, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this
By Goldie June 29, 2006 08:19 AM Yet our greatness is not measured in power or luxuries, but by who we are and how we treat one another. Yeah Andy— like how we treat the Iraqi citizens by bombing them into “democracy”?
Goldie, Hun, the last president that purposefully targeted civilian populations was a democrat. Look it up, when your heartbeat sudsides enough.
I don’t know if your soldiers, Al Qaeda, have any presidents, but they seem to have made a tactic out of blowing up shoppers.
But don’t you stop with the Islamic Fascist propaganda, keep it coming, dearie, it’s our get out the vote drive, we’re counting on you!
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this
My obligatory comment on the scribblers daily effort.
This being election season and ml having been beaten into submission over his cartoon that placed the United States and Al Qaeda on exact equal footing, the one named originally Pot to Kettle, ml could be talking about the flag amendment or he could just be talking about the way politicians of both major try to outflag each other at campaign appearances.
If it’s the latter, any fair minded person should realize they all do it and whether we like it or not they still will.
If it’s the former, I don’t like the Federal Government doing anything it doesn’t specifically have to. A flag burning amendment is just that, but anybody that complains that Congress is wasting all this time that they could be spending on other things has no idea how Congress works.
On another note, why would a protester that wanted to make a real statement want to make sure what they did was perfectly legal in advance anyway? If Martin Luther King Jr. had felt this way the struggle for equal rights in this country would have taken much longer.
By Patriotic Foreskin
June 29, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this
Ralph Reed is the high priest of the American Taliban. He has a base of born-again religious zealots who will smart mob any precints poll on voting day, or send emails by the millions to congressional committe chairmen, etc. He has a talent for framing every single appropriations legislation in terms of the salvation of souls, and the evangelical Right believes he’s some sort of prophet or saint, and they do exactly what he tells them to, in the name of Jesus, for Jesus, and by Jesus. (Justice and the Rights of Man be damned).
By Buy Danish
June 29, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this
Speaking of the Last refuge of scoundrels, isn’t the AJC one of the last refuges of treasonous traitors, err, Pulitzer Patriots?
ML, the New York Times and WaPo can hide behind the skirts of the First Amendment {and Goldie, and other soon to be very hungry Leftists, can cheer him on.](http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200606/POL20060622a.html)
Goldie,
I see that you have assumed the position of night watchman which thankfully is not the same thing as Commander in Chief.
As parting advice before I leave for vacation, you may want to try a High Colonic if you’re looking for a quick weight loss. Some herbalists claim it alleviates grumpiness, and it’s far less offensive than High Treason.
As for the Danish cartoons, how would you know since the AJC never had the balls to publish them? Contrary to ML’s Pot to Kettle cartoon, the Danish cartoons were not actually offensive to anyone except people like M.L., and coddled Islamists whose every demand is facilitated by cowards like you, who have the unmitigated gall to blame us for your fascistic political correctness.
Gone fishing!
By Think B 4 U Speak!
June 29, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this
Foreskin - You perception is skewed. I don’t propose terrorist assualts, I condone good ole a-ss whoopins! Something that America has unfortunately distanced itself from over the years.
The “American Taliban” thing was cute! I let your ignorance slide, just be careful when burning a flag. You’ll probably never understand it, but ask any vet and they’ll explain it to you - especially ones that have lost friends and family.
By Patriotic Whackjob
June 29, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this
By Patriotic Foreskin June 29, 2006 09:09 AM Ralph Reed is the high priest of the American Taliban.
You may want to try moving beyond the chicken suit, dude, you know get some fresh air and all that.
You don’t make a very credible harlot.
You just described the daily kos crowd almost perfectly.
By The Huff & Puff Addresses The Cartoon!
June 29, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this
TUESDAY’S SENATE debate on flag desecration was emblematic of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s ongoing attempt to rebrand herself as a red-state-friendly Dem by supporting a bill that would have criminalized flag descrcration, while still holding on to her liberal bonafides by voting against the Constitutional amendment banning that desecration. It was eating your patriotism cake and having it too.-RealClearPolitics
And damn near making some sense, for once.
By Buy Danish
June 29, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this
Oops, Fishing momentarily delayed -
Here’s that link for the fasting fascist facilitators
Going…going…gone!
By Have Fun Danish!
June 29, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this
Check in when you can.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this
An interesting Op-Ed re: results of our “war on terror”
The Wreckage in the China Shop
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this
Danish— anyone looking for your advice is way beyond helping.
By getalife
June 29, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this
This is why John call his site “Crooks and Liars”
By Eric
June 29, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this
I have a huge American flag that I’ve flown over my house on holidays for years. After 9/11 I raised it up into a tall pine tree so that it could be seen from all over the neighborhood. I’ve never even given a thought to burning it, but if they ever pass an ammendment banning flag burning, that sucker’s going up in flames. I’ve had it with the idiots in Washington doing everything they can to erode my civil rights. F’em!
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this
Danish,
Enjoy! We’ll look forward to your contributions and your advice as you can provide it.
We could rely on Goldie, but then we would just get Times Select links that we can’t read anyway.
By getalife
June 29, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this
Smear this
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this
Andy/Whine— which Democrat was it that brought “democracy” to another country by bombing them? Can’t seem to find that data anywhere. Or, why not just share with everyone when was the time that democracy came about in a country after being forced into it by gunpoint?
By Harry Truman?
June 29, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this
Do I win Andy? Goldie since you have all these google tips, try WWII.
By Midori
June 29, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this
RW the Original Keyboard Kommando,
All this obsession about the TITLE of a cartoon.
Crikey!!!!
It’s positively mind boggling.
Get over it already. Or have you guy’s got that saying trademarked yet?
Andy - stop trying to rewrite history. We know who intentionally targeted civilians for bombing. Hint: drunk, coke fiend, moron, chickenhawk, former cheerleader, IQ of an ant, demeanor of a serial killer. I’ll let YOU guess who.
I’ve got work to do.
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this
Getalife,
Is your buddy John trying to show that Mathews is a liar for saying that Karl Rove is a criminal leaker? I may have underestimated the guy if he’s trying to point out that the last meeting minutes from the Loyal Order of Fitzmas, said Karl Rove was free and clear, but Mathews is smearing him anyway.
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this
Midori,
Do you mean the cartoon that claimed Americans were no better than Al Qaeda butchers? If you did it was originally named “Pot to Kettle” and once ml’s puppet-masters couldn’t take the heat they changed it to something like “Pippi Longstocking gets a puppy”.
By Professor Andy
June 29, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this
Goldie, Hun, today’s lesson will be on the titanic struggle in the Pacific between the fascist dictatorship of Japan and the socialist democratically led United States. Not only did Truman firebomb Tokyo, he also nuked Horoshima and Nagasaki in his drive to install a democracy in the land of the Rising Sun.
Hope that helps!
Back to your regularly scheduled hysterics.
By Dittoheadwound
June 29, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this
Vote for Ralph Reed
Ralph Reed had ME at “Halo”!
By Get Your Facts Straight
June 29, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this
Midori: Roosevelt wasn’t a “coke fiend.”
By moonbat betty
June 29, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this
Why don’t you and Goldie come back to the commune. We reserved a room for two for you guys so you can kumbaya over world military strategy.
drunk, coke fiend, moron, cheerleader, IQ of an ant, demeanor of a serial killer. I’ll let YOU guess who.
By Cindy
June 29, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this
MIKE HAS TO STAY!
By getalife
June 29, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
RW,
I saw Matthews on the Colbert report. Very funny show.
The mindset of the wingdings does not allow for honest debate.
Those days are over.
By Alberta Gonzales
June 29, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
As the Attorney General, I caution the bloggers on this page that it is a felony to make terroristic threats against Americans during time of war. Now you blog-simples have included your e-mail address when you post a comment, and if I wanted, I could make dozens of arrests on this blog alone. We have enough to do trying to stop the real terrorists without being distracted by a bunch of clowns on a political blog. Play nice, or I’ll shut this thing down, and then you can all go soak your heads. Have a nice day.
By Redstate Retard
June 29, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this
VOTE FOR RALPH REED
I LOVE RALPH REED. HE HAD ME AT “HALO”!
By Inbred Inertia
June 29, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this
VOTE FOR RALPH REED
I LOVE RALPH REED TOO! HE HAD ME AT “HALO”!
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this
getalife,
Mathews+Colbert=honest debate?
They really did adjust your meds. I hope you get used to them soon, it’s going to be election (erection as Rush calls it) day here on planet Earth.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this
Professor Andy— I do believe that both Germany and Japan were “democracies” before WWII occurred, so you would be wrong on both of those.
By rushncap
June 29, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this
Great cartoon, Mike! Very very true.
By Patriotic Foreskin
June 29, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this
I think Ralph Reed had his entire constituency at, “Halo”.
cutone
Nothing wrong with that.
cutone
He had the Texas Natives at “Casino”.
cutcards
Nothing wrong with that.
cutfunds
Except those poor Injuns were out $60 million.
griftfunds
Sixty million was the amount the RNC had to re-elect W.
followfunds
I’d like to see the NYTimes expose that money trail.
Felonfun
If only our only problem was the crackpot fiends who burn flags.
By Joe Wilson
June 29, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this
RW,
Like I said, honest debate is gone:
Mathews+Colbert=funny show.
By Getitright
June 29, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this
Mikey has every right to draw whatever twisted cartoon he wants that supports the terrorists and the Al-Jazeera Constipation can publish it. Just because they do so doesn’t mean I have to agree with it. That cartoon went way, way over the line. To cease commenting on it is to give tacit approval and I do not approve.
Mike’s got to go.
By Humanistic Jones
June 29, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this
Breaking news: The Supreme Court rules President Bush overstepped his authority with military war crimes trials for foreigners held at Guantanamo Bay in a case involving a former driver for Osama bin Laden.
I can’t wait to hear all the rants about evil activist judges. Those evil judges, who gave them the right to judge things!
By Please, Make It Stop
June 29, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this
By Goldie June 29, 2006 10:16 AM Professor Andy— I do believe that both Germany and Japan were “democracies” before WWII occurred, so you would be wrong on both of those.
Iraq was a “democracy” too before we invaded, so where do you want to go with this?
To tell you the truth, I don’t think the United States is a democracy anymore. When you have a bunch of unelected drug addled grand pooh bahs, perched high atop their lofty “elite” benches, inflicting their cultural diseases on the rest of us with a wave of their magic wands, err, gavels, we’ve passed into a whole new form of governance.
But that’s a lesson for another day.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this
I can’t wait to hear all the rants about evil activist judges.
Humanistic— and let’s not forget about those evil “activist” judges who brought Bush/Cheney into the White House in 2000!
By Humanistic Jones
June 29, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this
Humanistic— and let’s not forget about those evil “activist” judges who brought Bush/Cheney into the White House in 2000!
I don’t give them a carte blanche on that one. I’m simply stating that standard operating procedure for the Republican party is to blame “Activist Judges” when their policies get overturned for being unconstitutional.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this
inflicting their cultural diseases on the rest of us with a wave of their magic wands, err, gavels, we’ve passed into a whole new form of governance.
Professor Dumbo— which is what occurred in the 2000 election, so you’re right that we’re no longer a “democracy” in America!
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this
Goldie,
You got a tiny part of this newest revision of history right. The US Supreme Court ruled in Bush v.Gore that the Florida Supreme Court had been activist in changing election law after the fact. So if you want to say the actions of the activist Florida Supreme Court paved the way for President Bush to take his duly elected position of Commander in Chief, I’ll give you half credit.
By Here's Your Judge For You
June 29, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this
ormer Judge Donald D. Thompson, (appointed by democrat governor Nigh) a veteran of 23 years on the bench, is on trial on charges he used a p***s pump on himself in the courtroom while sitting in judgment of others.
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this
I bet all the Al Qaeda clowns out there aren’t cheering this Supreme Court decision nearly as much as their enablers on this blog are.
I would highly suspect that the rules of engagement have just changed from capture and bathe to kill and move on.
By traitor update
June 29, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
The administration and its allies have been mercilessly bashing Democrats who argued that the U.S. should begin developing a timetable for the withdrawal of American forces. Republicans stood up on the Senate floor last week, one after another, to chant like cultists from the Karl Rove playbook: We’re tough. You’re not. Cut-and-run. Nyah-nyah-nyah!
But then on Sunday we learned that the president’s own point man in Iraq, Gen. George Casey, had fashioned the very thing that ol’ blood-and-guts Frist and his C-Span brigade had ranted against: a withdrawal plan.
Are Karl Rove and his liege lord, the bait-and-switch king, trying to have it both ways? You bet. And that ought to be a crime, because there are real lives at stake.
Not that Repukes would know that.
By traitor update
June 29, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON — Senators on the Judiciary Committee accused President Bush of an “unprecedented” and “astonishing” power grab for making use of a device that gave him the authority to revise or ignore more than 750 laws enacted since he became president.
By using what are known as signing statements, memorandums issued with legislation as he signs it, the president has reserved the right to not enforce any laws he thinks violate the Constitution or national security, or that impair foreign relations.
A lawyer for the White House said that Mr. Bush was only doing his duty to uphold the Constitution. But Senator Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania and chairman of the Judiciary Committee, characterized the president’s actions as a declaration that he “will do as he pleases,” without regard to the laws passed by Congress.
Checks and balances? Advise and consent? Bush can’t be bothered because it’s so much more fun being a despot.
Impeach Bush now.
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this
Thanks traitor update!!!! The best part of that whole screed:
Paul Krugman is on vacation
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
June 29, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
Goldie, Andy, et al,
With the discussion of who was a democracy and who was not (Japan, Germany, Iraq, U.S., etc.), I was wondering if anyone could name an actual, truly democratic government during human history. I don’t think there has been one.
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
June 29, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this
Wait, Paul Krugman is Buy Danish?
By traitor update
June 29, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this
There he goes again. The Leaker in Chief shooting his mouth off and compromising a national security asset in order to win domestic political advantage. Remember when U.S. military forces whacked the terrorist Zarqawi? Well, the President, eager to burnish his image with the American people, rushed to the microphones where he spilled Top Secret beans by identifying the head of the top secret terrorist unit at Fort Bragg.
It’s the old KKKarl Rove double-standard standard. Endangering the troops for cheap political points.
How traitorous can you get?
By Patriotic Foreskin
June 29, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this
The Hatfields and the McCoys were a pure democracy that used bullets for ballots, but the ones with the most bullets in them lost, so it was a reverse idiot savant democracy which is what we have now, so I guess moonshine is the determining factor here. (is it miller time yet?)
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this
OotMVoD,
I didn’t know it would take so long, but yes you’ve caught her/him. Paul Krugman and Buy Danish are apparently one and the same.
By traitor update
June 29, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON — News reports disclosing the Bush administration’s use of a special bank surveillance program to track terrorist financing spurred outrage in the White House and on Capitol Hill, but some specialists pointed out yesterday that the government itself has publicly discussed its stepped-up efforts to monitor terrorist finances since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
But a search of public records — government documents posted on the Internet, congressional testimony, guidelines for bank examiners, and even an executive order President Bush signed in September 2001 — describe how US authorities have openly sought new tools to track terrorist financing since 2001. That includes getting access to information about terrorist-linked wire transfers and other transactions, including those that travel through SWIFT.
There have been public references to SWIFT before," said Roger Cressey, a senior White House counterterrorism official until 2003.The White House is overreaching when they say [The New York Times committed] a crime against the war on terror. It has been in the public domain before.”
Bush thinks nothing of naming the brave Americans who killed Zarqawi. Al Qaeda thanks him. But let a newspaper report on a non-secret? Such odious hypocrisy!!
Impeach Bush now.
By Mark
June 29, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this
From Getitright: “Mikey has every right to draw whatever twisted cartoon he wants that supports the terrorists and the Al-Jazeera Constipation can publish it. “
If you believe that any democrat, American newspaper, or cartoonist such as Mike Luckovich “supports the terrorists and Al Qaeda”…you are officially an idiot.
By rushncap
June 29, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this
Voice of Dissent, why you gotta be hatin’ on my dawg P. Krug? Why you gotta playa-hate, homes?
By Filthy Mouth Murtha's Replacement
June 29, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this
Thank you for your contribution.
This is going to be a challenging race. John Murtha is going to receive a lot of help from those in Washington D.C. who are counting on him to push the Washington agenda. But with your support, I will win this race. My commitment to you is to continue to work hard every day and make John Murtha answer for his votes against our military, against lower taxes and against more affordable health care.
I am deeply grateful for your continued support. Thank you.
No, thank you.
By Patriotic Foreskin
June 29, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this
RW, Paul and Buy are aliases? What difference does that make? A talented poster is a talented poster, by any name.
Conversly, a blog simple nitwit is a dullard and a fool by any name.
(The best response to this comment is, “Which one are You, PF?”
cutone
By traitor update
June 29, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON — House Republicans failed Wednesday to advance a bill protecting the words “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance. Only a day earlier, the GOP had placed the measure on its “American Values Agenda” in hopes of bolstering the party’s prospects in the fall election.
But Republicans could not muster a simple majority on the issue in a committee where they outnumber Democrats by six.
I guess the Repukes who voted against God were too distracted by a far more important issue.
Of course I mean flag burning.
Mental illness has a way of hinderng multi-tasking skills.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this
RW— Danish and Paul Krugman cannot be one and the same, because Krugman has and displays reasonable thoughts.
By hmmmm...
June 29, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this
General Seeker has a new name, no?
By Jay Nordlinger, National Review
June 29, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this
A thought about Rush Limbaugh — not original, to be sure. Boy, do the media want to take him down. Boy oh boy, do they want to lay him out. And, in a sense, why wouldn’t they? Few have done more to damage them — to expose and ridicule them — these past 20 years or so.
Keep going, Rush, keep going.
By lighten up
June 29, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this
By: Andy’s One And Only Post, Wanker Free
Judging from your post. You are one sick and sad individual. Lighten up dude, it’s not that serious. I imagine you have a pathetic and lonely life.
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this
Goldie,
Sorry you’re having such a rough day. Let me help you fix that typo:
RW— Danish and Paul Krugman cannot be one and the same, because Buy Danish has and displays reasonable thoughts.
Better? And now I even agree!
By Dittoheadwound
June 29, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this
Speaking of aliases, Patriotic Foreskin is actually Minuteman.
The loser thinks we’re so stupid we couldn’t figure out that if his foreskin really was patriotic, then his wife would call him minuteman.
By There are a lot of idiots on this blog:
June 29, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this
If you believe that any democrat, American newspaper, or cartoonist such as Mike Luckovich “supports the terrorists and Al Qaeda”…you are officially an idiot.
By rushncap
June 29, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this
The only “reasonable thought” Danish has had, RW, is about her son’s golf game. The rest is mindless blather.
By Dittoheadwound
June 29, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this
Lighten up, you deserve a lot of credit for wading through Andy’s italicized 5000 word manifestos. I tried, I gave it a fair shot, but I cant get through more than five sentences and I give up and move on. Andy doesn’t seem to understand that we all are reading three different newspapers, and are watching CNBC on TV and we’re blogging on several blogs, and there is not time to decypher long unreadable essays of italicized text. He thinks it’s cool or something, and I guess, he’s cool. NO, I KNOW HE’S COOL!!!!
But I still wont read it. Cant. Would if I could, but cant so I wont.
By Bill Frist, Failure
June 29, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this
Isn’t there something very beside the point in the Senate’s flag-burning debate? When was the last time an American protester burned an American flag? 1971? Meanwhile, senior public servants and great liberal newspapers are claiming a right to reveal vital national security secrets including:-NationalReview
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this
A thought about Rush Limbaugh — not original, to be sure. Boy, do the media want to take him down. Boy oh boy, do they want to lay him out. And, in a sense, why wouldn’t they? Few have done more to damage them — to expose and ridicule them — these past 20 years or so.
Yeah, all the Dittoheads just lap up everything ole Oxycontin spews forth, whether based on reality or not. Even ole Oxycontin calls himself “an entertainer” rather than a news-person. And yet the right-wingnut masses keep listening to his ignorant rants without worrying about the Truth.
By Jay Nordlinger takes Rush seriously
June 29, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this
He is a drug addicted entertainer stupid.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this
RW is a quote-jacker!
By Have You Tried Laying On Your Side And Reading It?
June 29, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this
By Dittoheadwound June 29, 2006 12:05 PM Lighten up, you deserve a lot of credit for wading through Andy’s italicized 5000 word manifestos.
Or if you slightly tilt your monitor they won’t be italized anymore, but, everything else will be.
No problem, I’m the only one worth reading…
By Liberal Texas Democrat
June 29, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
My conclusion, based on conjecture for my own amusement, is that Andy is the home schooled 12 year old son of Buy Danish. The lesson plan for today is cut and paste, cut and paste, cut and paste.
By Look In The Mirror, Talk
June 29, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
Such anger, such frustration
By lighten up June 29, 2006 11:50 AM By: Andy’s One And Only Post, Wanker Free Judging from your post. You are one sick and sad individual. Lighten up dude, it’s not that serious. I imagine you have a pathetic and lonely life.
You really should tune into Rush this afternoon, you need his help.
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this
rushncap,
Is there no opportunity to beat on a woman that you will pass up? This time you do it when she’s not even here to slap you back into your cave.
By Liberal Texas Democrat
June 29, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this
Oh, and about the cartoon. Hits the spot, as always. If one would rather live in a nation that punishes those who desecrate it’s flag, there’s three choices … China, Cuba, Iran. As for even discussing the legislation, well nailing Jel-lo to a tree would be a more productive endeavor.
By RW-Quote Jacker
June 29, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this
Good one Goldie! {;-)
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
June 29, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
I keep hearing from the right how many listeners Rush and the other conservative idiot pundits have, as if that legitimizes them. Of course, if they have many listeners/viewers, what they say must be true, valid, and worthwhile. I guess, by their logic, MTV is filled with truth and poignant commentary because it also has millions of viewers. What does that say about the millions of people who see the absolutely awful “blockbusters” that come out of Hollywood every year, primed for the ignorant masses? I guess the sheer numbers mean that Spiderman, etc. are the greatest movies ever made. Obviously conservatives haven’t read Thoreau.
By multiple personality disorder
June 29, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this
lets see… moonbat betty, dittoheadwound, patriotic whackjob, one and only, lot of idiots…
I’m sure I’m missing some from the king of spam/hijackings/wankers/gayhaters/nutjobs…
Hello pot? Meet kettle.
BWAAHAAHAAHAA!
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
June 29, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this
LTD,
I agree Andy is probably Danish’s 12-year-old son, but I don’t think he is homeschooled. Danish knows she doesn’t have the skills to handle special ed students, so she sends him to @@. Vicious cycle, you see.
By Cue Tip
June 29, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this
Hey Lucko: You’ve got Karl Rove playing pocket pool but you didn’t give him a mouth to kiss our ass with.
By gadem
June 29, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
Rw are you and Getitright stuck on stupid? How long ago was that cartoon…if only you could remember the misrepresentations that this administration told us.
Anywho, good cartoon Mike, when I first saw it I laughed out loud. I then thought it would also be appropriate to draw some Neocons hiding behind a big Bible. Or standing inside one when someone opened one up.
By Dittoheadwound
June 29, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this
Dear one of the majority’s voices of dissent: You speak well for the helmet law lobby, and you’ve got my endorsement. Perhaps a rider for the Short Bus safety Act of 2005?
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
gadem,
Seven days it’s been since ml published the cartoon equating Americans with Al Qaeda. It was originally titled Pot to Kettle in case you’ve forgotten.
Thanks for asking!
I know that you would like it to go away, much like you would like us to forget the worthlessness Democrats demonstrate every time they are in power, but it isn’t going to happen.
By Takes One To Know One
June 29, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
By One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent June 29, 2006 12:22 PM Goldie, I keep hearing from the right how many listeners Rush and the other conservative idiot pundits have, as if that legitimizes them.
Speaking from experience?
Or, better yet, the Pot To Kettle.
I’ve always found, that when solving disputes among people through an investigation, especially when the liberal is accusing the Conservative, is to frisk the liberal first. It saves time.
By Midori
June 29, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this
Is there no opportunity to beat on a woman that you will pass up?
so now telling the truth is beating up on someone?
Gadem: and let’s not forget - MIKE CHANGED THE TITLE OF THE TOON!!!
OH, THE HORROR!!!!!
By with friends like these
June 29, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this
The American presence in Baghdad. Or how to kill a city.
Bloodshed has turned Iraq into a country defined by disguise and bluff. Violence in the streets has begun to defy logic, and this is part of the fallout: A lively city where people used to butt gleefully into one another’s business has degenerated into a labyrinth of disguises, a place where neighbors brush silently past one another like dancers in a macabre costume ball.
Iraq may be the only country in the world where militia members and anti-government insurgents walk the streets with bare faces while government workers, soldiers and cops cower behind masks.
Thank God for that Pax Americana!
Fear gets fundamental in today’s Baghdad: The Christian woman in an Islamic headdress won’t give her name for fear of getting killed. She is 33, lives with her parents on a street dominated by Muslims and risks her life after breakfast every morning by slipping into the Green Zone for work.
“It scares me: There are people who believe that all Christians are with the Americans,” she said. “We can’t trust each other now. I have to keep all my secrets and everything to myself, because I don’t know the people in front of me.”
With friends like Bush…
By moonbat midori
June 29, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this
Hi everyone,
I’m moonbat midori, I normally post as Midori or wank someone else’s name but right now I’m just going to be me! See ya!
By Midori
June 29, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this
the more things change, the more they remain the same: exhibit A @ 12:48
Andy — why don’t you just stick to cutting and pasting.
RW: If Democrats are “worthless” , why does your party suck so much when it comes to governing? What term would you label them with?
A few come to mind: Criminal, incompetent, ignorant, impotent, out-of-touch.
Feel free to choose.
By I Don't Jack, Look Elsewhere
June 29, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this
Besides which, this is a classic Pot To Kettle. If you only had the real Kettle.
It’s probably little wormy finch or getagrip trying to stir things up. You can tell when they start getting agitated, the jacking gets started too.
Like it isn’t obvious that finch is “with friends like these.”
Wankers.
By Midori
June 29, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this
Andy,
you have truly jumped the shark.
By Dittoheadwound
June 29, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this
**Gentlemen! Gentlewomen! Let us not forget true discourse, where one may express opinions without rancor.
For it is in this intercourse that we find truth without bias. Just because most posters are blog simple and fondle-alls doesn’t mean that they are not correct.
Einstein was wrong about quantum physics. Bush was correct about how to tell fish stories. So it all evens out.**
By I Do Jack, Don't Look Elsewhere
June 29, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this
Lying wanker.
By Allan Erickson
June 29, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this
Dear Angela Tuck (& Mike Luckovich),
insideajc@ajc.com
I understand you are the Public Editor of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. With regard to Luckovich’s torture cartoon, published by your paper June 22, you wrote on June 24:
“The symbolism clearly overshadowed the intent of Mike Luckovich’s editorial cartoon Thursday featuring a hooded figure holding an American flag while reading a book on torture etiquette to an al-Qaida member.
In a week that brought news of the brutal slayings of two young American soldiers at the hands of Iraqi insurgents and murder charges involving a handful of U.S. troops, the cartoon was ill-timed, as was its placement above the photographs of Pfcs. Thomas L. Tucker and Kristian Menchaca, whose badly mangled bodies were discovered this week in Iraq.”
I understand you usually have about 1,000 emails a day re: Luckovich’s work, but this cartoon drew what, about 18,000 email protests? Quite a backlash. Been doing a little damage control have ya?
I guess most folks don’t take kindly to your newspaper comparing our soldiers to terrorists, essentially saying we are no different than al-Qaida. You are fine folks to be talking about moral high ground.
Those of us out here in the sticks probably aren’t quite as smart as you big city journalist intellectual folk.
Maybe we missed the news about Americans beheading people slowly with butcher knives. Perhaps we were too busy working and raising kids and watching them volunteer to fight the war on terror.
Or, maybe we missed the news about Americans flying commercial jet liners into office buildings in Tehran. I guess we were to busy paying taxes and serving on the local school board.
Perhaps we missed the news about Americans using women and children as shields in combat, or kidnapping Iraqi families and forcing them to run check points to draw fire. I guess we also missed the reports of Americans dropping Muslims into shredders, or beating their bare feet with canes until they died.
I supposed we were too busy saluting the flag and going to Sunday school.
Maybe we missed the reports of Americans systematically raping Iraqi women or hanging them naked upside down during their monthly cycles so they soil themselves, or chopping mens’ hands off, just for fun.
I guess we missed the reports of Americans rounding up Muslim women and shooting them in the head down at the local sporting arena. Maybe we were too busy that day giving to charity, helping unwed mothers, or serving at a soup kitchen.
The people copied in on this email are all directly connected to U.S. Marines. Some are retired officers. Others have sons serving right now in the war on terror. One dad’s son was murdered in Iraq last April. Another dad’s son was seriously wounded there last year and received the Purple Heart. My son was wounded a couple months back and will receive his Purple Heart when he gets back in August. Others copied here are friends a relatives. One man listed here served as a USMC officer in WWII in the South Pacific. Was wounded. Saw his cousin killed. Others listed here served in Vietnam, Korea.
I think I can safely speak for everybody in saying the following:
our fathers and sons, grandfathers and great grandfathers fought, struggled, suffered and died so every American can breathe free they suffered and died so we can all enjoy the blessings of liberty, including free speech and freedom of the press they suffered and died to secure for us the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, rights endowed by our Creator with those rights come sacred responsibilities those responsibilities include honorable citizenship based of fairness, common courtesy, virtue, self-sacrifice and due consideration of one’s fellow citizen without a responsible citizenry, our rights and liberties will vanish…
Publishing Luckovich’s torture cartoon failed the test. It was irresponsible, even reprehensible. Some would call it traitorous. You owe everyone an apology, not just some mealy-mouthed reference to “ill-timed” publication, or poor placement on the page. You owe the families of Pfcs. Thomas L. Tucker and Kristian Menchaca a personal phone call and apology.
Sincerely,
Allan Erickson 1516 Hess Creek Court Newberg, OR 97132 503-554-0735
June 29, 2006
PS: They are not insurgents. They are cold-blooded murdering savages. Got it?
PPS: I hear you are concerned about water-boarding detainees at Gitmo. Ever watch USMC bootcamp video of recruits in water combat training? Many of them actually drown and have to be revived. Howz that for a little perspective? I suppose you’d be appreciative if interrogation at Gitmo prevented another 9/11 occurring in Atlanta. How about appreciating the 126,000 service men and women in Iraq today suffering in 120 degree heat so you can exercise freedom of the press? How about a little appreciation instead of the constant drumbeat of denigration, defeatism and defamation?
By That's not all
June 29, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this
It’s also obvious that traitor update is finch/seeker/mirror and today he brought DU to life here.
By lie detector
June 29, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this
Conservative files suit to stop mass surveillance by government
She’s a lifelong Republican, a proud conservative who rails against big government and doesn’t have time for whiny liberalism. Now she’s siding with the ACLU.
Wrap your Old Glory around that, Bush drones!
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 01:13 PM | Link to this
Midori,
The word worthless was not in quotes. It is an accurate description of Democrats when in a position of power. When they are just around for a laugh it’s not so bad.
By rushncap
June 29, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this
RW, is there no opportunity that you pass up to lick that woman’s behind, and this time she’s not even here to provide you with a happy ending?
By Well, We Know It's An Idiot
June 29, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this
By I Do Jack, Don’t Look Elsewhere June 29, 2006 01:06 PM Lying wanker.
A wanker accusing someone else of wanking.
That means it’s a liberal who’s doing the wanking.
That means the wanker is not real smart.
That pretty much narrows it down to finch, Midori or getagrip.
They always give themselves away.
By con artists
June 29, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this
Let me see if I understand the current administration’s thought process - not an easy task!
Invade a country to bring them a better way of life and in the process start a civil war.
We have the most corrupt, self-serving administration in our country’s history, but look, we killed al-Zarqawi, so everything is great! Americans have nothing to fear because our own government is spying on our e-mails and telephone calls. I know I sleep well at night
And there it is! The Imperial Presidency is neither! Its just a confederacy of dunces.
By Thank You, Allan Erickson
June 29, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this
And Godspeed to your son on his return.
By The Sad Truth
June 29, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this
It’s interesting how so many of the people who love to remind us that our brave soldiers fought and died for our freedom of expression seem to have a problem when we freely express ourselves. I guess it depends on what your definition of freedom is. Freedom to agree with them, I guess.
Blessings to all who have sacrificed so much that I might have the right to express my views.
By Well, We Know It's Andy
June 29, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this
Lying wanker.
By Huge
June 29, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this
I then thought it would also be appropriate to draw some Neocons hiding behind a big Bible. Or standing inside one when someone opened one up.
gadem, That reminds me of this one from Al Franken, prophetically written last year: From what I understand, if you cut out all of the passages in the bible where jesus talks about the poor, about helping the least among us, you’d have the perfect container to smuggle rush limbaugh’s drugs in.
By @@
June 29, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this
Breaking in here. From the front-page of the AJC. The Batiste fella sounds more interesting than the seven. But unlike someone here I won’t “rush-n-cap” ‘em before all the evidence is in.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this
I think I can safely speak for everybody in saying the following:
Allan Erickson— please do not attempt to “safely speak for everybody”. Even with all of your righteous rhetoric, you do not speak for everybody, so just get over yourself.
By Midori
June 29, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this
I’ve finally found a picture of Andy
Isn’t he cute?
I hear he has a sign for each of his posting aliases.
By dirty rotten scoundrels
June 29, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this
actually just that little scoundrel andy, who just cant stand it when someone trumps him at his own little racket.
How does ever juggle all those names anyway?
But the Supreme Court justices arent scoundrels. Unlike the Bush sheep they actually understand the Constitution.
“For five years, the Bush-Cheney administration has violated fundamental American values, tarnished our standing in the world and hindered the partnerships we need with our allies. This arrogance and incompetence have delayed and weakened the handling of the war on terror, not because of any coherent strategic view it had, but because of its stubborn unilateralism and dangerous theory of unfettered power”. - Senator Patrick Leahy - (D-VT)
I pledge allegiance, to the Flag…
By Getitright
June 29, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this
I don’t see where anyone has denied Mikey the opportunity to express his views. A review of his work certainly supports the opinion that he wants the US to lose and the terrorists to win. The AJC certainly guarantees that his opinions get out there. He can state his opinion, but I can state mine, also. Just because the offensive cartoon ran several days ago doesn’t make it any less disgusting.
“It is the Soldier, not the Reporter, that has given us Freedom of the Press. It is the Soldier, not the Poet, that has given us the Freedom of Speech…” Father Dennis Edward O’Brien, USMC. I believe that Mikey has shown such a abusive disregard for our troops - past and present - that I cannot be silent about it.
As far as “misrepresentations” go, look up the word in any good dictionary. You’d probably see a reference to the DNC national platform.
Mike’s got to go.
By I Found A Picture Of Midori!
June 29, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this
She’s a real a-ss.
By getalife
June 29, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this
I thought this was Andy
By Here's Al Midori, Martyr
June 29, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this
They got her loaded up for a martyrs operation, al Midori.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this
Midori— so, Andy’s last name is Moran? The sign he’s holding up doesn’t make a lick O sense!
By Radar Locked
June 29, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this
Heat seeking missile locked on target at 11:21. Target banking right to left, going underground where all the moles live.
By Midori
June 29, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
the moron mispelled “moron”
By Midori
June 29, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this
ok, ok. I was just funnin :)
here’s the REAL Andy
By Midori
June 29, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this
and here’s Andy’s mom taking her Saturday night bath
By Midori
June 29, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this
and here’s Andy’s brother — a gourmet chef!!
By Midori
June 29, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this
Andy firing up the barbeque grill
By Midori
June 29, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this
see Andy - I don’t have to change my name to post. Unlike you. What do you have to hide? I certainly don’t have anything to hide. When are you going to buy some teeth?
By moonbat betty
June 29, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this
I took this picture of Midori and Goldie on our Memorial Day weekend outing.
By Midori
June 29, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this
awwwwwww. Isn’t Andy’s little boy the cutest thing you’ve ever seen?
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this
Getit— I believe it was our Founding Fathers who actually “gave us” the freedom of speech and press. You know like Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, et al — thank God for their foresight and brilliance.
By clueless GOPhers
June 29, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this
Asked to name the country that has produced the largest number of global terrorists, the index’s foreign-policy experts pointed to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan—three of America’s marquee allies in the Muslim world. Nearly two thirds (62 percent) identified Saudi Arabia as the leading culprit. Thirteen percent pointed to Egypt, and 11 percent said Pakistan produces the most terrorists. “The jihadist movement,” says index participant and Sarah Lawrence College Professor Fawaz Gerges, “was born in Egypt in the late 1960s. After September 11, however, Saudi Arabia has emerged as the leading theater of jihadist-Salafist thought and action.”
Excuse me? Excuse me?? President Bush?? What are we doing in Iraq again??
By Uh-Oh, Losing It!
June 29, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this
By Midori June 29, 2006 02:39 PM see Andy - I don’t have to change my name to post. Unlike you. What do you have to hide? I certainly don’t have anything to hide. When are you going to buy some teeth?
Don’t get despondent, Midori, maybe someday you too will be relevant and someone will actually want to jack your name. Then maybe you’ll understand why I change mine.
Till then, just keep stewing in that liberal rage of yours, it’s kinda cute.
And I’ll keep toying with you, moowahahahahaha.
By moonbat betty
June 29, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this
Midori after the costume comes off
BTW, this isn’t Andy posting.
By Clueless Pinko
June 29, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this
By clueless GOPhers June 29, 2006 02:52 PM Asked to name the country that has produced the largest number of global terrorists, the index’s foreign-policy experts pointed to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan.
Gosh, I wonder if it’s because we killed all the terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq?
Huh, huh?
George Bush rocks!
By gadem
June 29, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this
Huge, I would suspect that Limbumb would need one of those LARGE PRINT Bibles for the size, just to carry his extra “legally” obtained medicine. According Andy and RW, the MSM and government is out to get Limbaugh because he speaks nothing but the truth. Andy always says that he will not post for the rest of the day, but he always seems to gravitate back to here…Me thinks that we are his only “friends”….
RW, how is the e-bay business going?
By gadem
June 29, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this
Andy, there were no terrorist in Iraq to begin with, so it is hard to kill what was not there. Sure they are there now, and you can thank emperor bush for that….
By Cindy
June 29, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this
Whew! It finally sank in! Yeah! Why are we in Iraq when the idea of the global war on terror was to go after terrorists? (Please note: the number of terrorists in Iraq was even lower before the borders opened to every idiot terroist out there.)
By cliff
June 29, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this
The nut-case liberals think that George Bush is their enemy, not the homicide-bombing Islamofascists. Do you people ever give pause to recognize that you are cheering on a Supreme Court decision that favors terrorists? You are smiling WITH Osama Bin Laden. And, remember this is a court that upheld New London Conn. over Kelo. And, the Geneva Convention clearly does not come into play here.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this
Geez— did some clueless idiot actually post that all the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan have been killed, or is that Andy/Whine doing some wanking/whining again?
By Daniel
June 29, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this
America is weary of the right-wing goofballs. You have never seen such a group of incompetents! Do any of these people have any recognizable skill? O’Reilly, Coulter, Limbaugh can they do anything? At least Delay was a pest exterminator. They remind us of that quote from Shakespeare: “The loud voice bespeaks the empty mind”.
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this
Cliff, you may have some argument about those detainees held in Guantanamo if they had actually ever been tried for anything — automatically calling everyone who’s being held there “terrorists” is the first clue we have that you just may be Bush-whacked in your mind! Rounding up people and detaining them for years without any hearings or trials is very un-American at its core!
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
June 29, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this
Cliff,
Are you the genius who challenged someone to a fight over the internet the other day? I think I’ll find information and political advice elsewhere, thanks. Talk about a nutcase.
By gadem
June 29, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this
Goldie, did you not get the neo-con Memo from Bush. It is unpatriotic to question him, his tactics, or anything that has to do with this war. He gave us a tax cut so that we can use that money to jumpstart the economy by putting gas in our car. Where were you when all of this went down?
By Curious George
June 29, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this
Why does Goldie and her likeminded clan so quickly condemn our armed forces (i.e. Haditha) before any trial or hearings or proof but are sympathetic to known terrorists that have taken up arms against our soldiers (who are not even protected by Geneva Conventions)?
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
June 29, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
That was Andy who said we’d already killed all the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan. He’s the only one who says things as willfully dense as that. One time he tried to make the claim that it was safer for soldiers to be in Iraq than to be in any major city in the U.S. You can tell who the nuts are by the content on their posts- Dusty won’t say anything of substance or any specific; she’ll just say we should support our president and ask why we hate America. Buy Danish will pick apart your spelling, try to use petty personal insults, and attempt to bolster her self-confidence by telling you how great she and everyone in her family is. RW will try to win an argument by using some loony right-wing website or article for support, as if that proved anything. And yes, Andy writes the hostile, most idiotic posts.
By clueless GOPhers
June 29, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this
Analysis shows most Muslim terrorists are from Saudia Arabia Egypt and Pakistan.
“Gosh, I wonder if it’s because we killed all the terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq?”
Huh, huh?
That same analysis shows far more Americans dying in Afghanistan and Iraq. Now, whos killing them moron?
“pinkophobia” can be dangerous to your mental health!
By buff
June 29, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this
The Dems should not celebrate too quickly over the Supreme Court ruling today. Now, the White House will throw the ball in Congress’ court. Will the Dems support the Clinton Administration’s strategy of treating these people like regular criminals? Will they give Bush the authority he wants? I think that the latter is what will happen as it would be a political nightmare, especially in an election year, to appear as soft on detainees
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this
gaDem— yes, the incompetence and constant law-breaking going on week after week by Bush/Cheney and their cronies is simply too much to absorb by most Americans. I certainly did miss that neo-con memo that got distributed with it’s explanation of how it’s all supposed to work… And all of the goose-stepping in line required for our leader is just way over the line! :)
By Goldie
June 29, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this
Curious George— please show everyone where I’ve ever “condemned” our armed forces regarding Haditha. I’m not sure who it is you’re talking about here, because it’s usually the right-wingers who don’t believe in “innocent before proven guilty.” I know I’ve never said anything about those poor U.S. Marines who may have been without proper leadership in Haditha — it’s certainly not their fault what they’re facing. It’s their leaders, all the way up to your guy Rumsfeld.
By Midori
June 29, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this
Buff,
your argument makes no sense.
The law applies to the Clinton administration as well as the Bush administration.
The Supreme Court reminded Bush that the law still does apply to him.
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
June 29, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this
Buff,
You’re right. Dems shouldn’t celebrate that someone finally stopped Bush from trampling the constitution yet again. Everyone should celebrate. Congress obviously hasn’t been doing their job of providing the proper checks and balances against the executive branch and they don’t intend to, which is why many of them will be gone in 5 months. You know Bush is really pushing it when a conservative court rules that he’s gone too far, with just the three draconian, medieval fascists to back him up (Scalia, Thomas, & Alito).
By echoes of whatsisname
June 29, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this
The pinko activist judges have struck again! America is sinking into the muck of depravity!!
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — The Arkansas Supreme Court on Thursday said that gays can qualify as foster parents and barring them from parenting foster children was based on one group’s views on morality.
Do you know what this means?? Gay stalker pedophiles (they’re all the same, you know) will continue to push innocent children into making a choice for perversion!! It is a choice, you know.
And since all gays by definition are pinkos that support Al Qaeda, we’ll see the creation of batallions of cross dressing terrorists, all hiding bombs in compacts and lipstick cases! What devastation!!
I weep for America. weep weep weep!
By Midori
June 29, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this
Andy,
I’ve yet to meet a gay stalker peodphile. The only ones I’ve met have been straight.
By Are You People Suffering Heat Stroke?
June 29, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this
Funny that the name of this cartoon is “The Last Refuge”. gadem, Goldie, Midori, Majority Dissent, Cindy & GOPher, Daniel. You people are making fools of yourselves. You’ve contributed absolutely nothing here except the same old same old and you’re contributing it to only two sane people. Cliff & Buff.
But hey! Look up ^^^ you are the majority as of 3:01. How do you think you’re doing?
By buff
June 29, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this
Midori, not my point. The Clinton police/court strategy did now work. My point is that now Congress will have to decide procedure because Bush will ask them for permission to use military-type trials. I am sure Rove is pretty confident how that will turn out. And, the mention of the Geneva Convention is nonsensical, But, hey, this is the Kelo Court, sans O’Connor
By Midori
June 29, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this
Everyone should watch this
click on: 6/21/06 Defending Democracy: Can we promote democracy in Iraq while our own is under attack?
By Midori
June 29, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this
Andy, Andy, Andy. So little time, so many ignorant posts.
Buff - let Bush ask for anything he wants. We shall see. Me? I don’t go for that “military tribunal” crap. The only “war” going on is a war against Democracy.
By Because They're Whackjobs
June 29, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this
By Curious George June 29, 2006 04:32 PM Why does Goldie and her likeminded clan so quickly condemn our armed forces (i.e. Haditha) before any trial or hearings or proof but are sympathetic to known terrorists that have taken up arms against our soldiers (who are not even protected by Geneva Conventions)?
They’ve officially lost what little mind the public education system left them with, makes sense don’t it? Any normal functioning human being would not even consider flaming the very house they live in, these libs can’t make the connection between their actions and the harm they cause themselves.
It’s either that or they want to see our cities on fire.
These are the Jamie Gorelick/ Bill Clinton Pinkos so choice B may be a real possibility.
Only a liberal would wield a statistic about where terrorists are “created” and be able to attach some wonderful meaning to it. Most Conservatives only care where a terrorist was killed at due to the fact that they can no longer slaughter the Conservative’s family in that condition. Minor issues like these are beyond a pinkos reasoning, they can’t even comprehend that the most effective terrorist fighters are created right here in America and they work at the NY Times and other liberal enclaves.
Al Gore jetting to Saudi Arabia, burning millions of gallons of fuel, happily warming the globe, just so he could tell the Saudis how evil America was, creates more terrorists then George Bush ever could.
Michael Moore, DNC convention guest of honor, making propaganda that probably has more Saudi air time then it does in St. Louis, creates more terrorists then Donald Rumsfeld ever has.
But this doesn’t count, because they’re liberals and they make the rules up as they go!
And blame it on Conservatives!
Like a child would!
By Midori
June 29, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this
Buff - a thought just occurred to me: why, all of a sudden, should Bush start “asking” Congress for permission to do anything?
He hasn’t bothered to ask their permission for anything else.
Which is why the SCOTUS decision is so important.
By buff
June 29, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this
Midori, we have never given those types this much legal protection before; this is new precedent, even a liberal Emory law prof said that today.
By Midori
June 29, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this
Andy,
why, each day, do you assert that you will only make one post, only to spam the board all day with your stupid jacka** cut-and-paste-say-nothing-but-show-your-complete-ignorance-and-stupidity posts?
By Cindy
June 29, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this
Buff, It is the job of the Supreme Court to interpret the constitution. They have done that well on their latest decision. Giving a single human being dictatorial powers weakens the Constitution and the USA. For those who believe Bush should have such powers please study history; Hitler Germany would be a good place to start. Read up on the countries that allow grant unrestrained power to a single individual, invasion of privacy, leadership by fear, suppression of ideas or any one of these. It is not a place I would want to live.
By buff
June 29, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this
Midori, how is holding these people a “war against democracy?”
By Daniel
June 29, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this
Midori: There is also a war against truth, decency, fair-play, honesty, honor and courage.
By Umpire
June 29, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this
Andy signs off early and uses numerous names (not jacked names) to throw off the liberal jackers. Seems fair to me when you liberals keep making rules up as you jackoff, like he said.
By Have You Looked In The Department Of Education Building?
June 29, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this
By Midori June 29, 2006 04:57 PM Andy, I’ve yet to meet a gay stalker peodphile. The only ones I’ve met have been straight.
Just ask for “teach.”
By buff
June 29, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
Cindy, dead on THE US CONSTITUTION, not the Geneva Convention, foreign law, or horoscopes. Please, show me where Bush is going against the US Constitution. I have a copy on my desk. If he is violating it, then I will agree with you. Now, did FDR do that in WWII? These people are not part of a recognized governmental military, nor are not in uniform. In WWII they would have been shot as spies
By My Goodness, A Caged Animal
June 29, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
Midori is desperate to jack but there’s no available targets. Look at the savage beast pacing back and forth, slobbering and foaming, snarling and muttering, rough, rough, bark, bark, grrrrrrrrrr.
By buff
June 29, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this
See y’all, Cliff and I are going fishing
By Oh, And By The Way
June 29, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this
More Americans die violently in Atlanta and New York combined then do in Iraq. Maybe some day a democrat will get back in office and we will be able to get it down to just Atlanta but your chances aren’t looking very good right now, hahaha.
It’s just a plain simple fact that I stated, that may be why you pinkos are having so much trouble with it, it’s too simple. Everything has to be artifically complicated for you, you’d screw up a wet dream. You can’t just accept things as they are and move on, you have to roll around on the floor with it, like a gorilla with a banana.
I guess that’s what makes you liberals, eh?
By Liberal Texas Democrat
June 29, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this
“By echoes of whatsisname June 29, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this The pinko activist judges have struck again! America is sinking into the muck of depravity!! LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — The Arkansas Supreme Court on Thursday said that gays can qualify as foster parents and barring them from parenting foster children was based on one group’s views on morality. Do you know what this means?? Gay stalker pedophiles (they’re all the same, you know) will continue to push innocent children into making a choice for perversion!! It is a choice, you know. And since all gays by definition are pinkos that support Al Qaeda, we’ll see the creation of batallions of cross dressing terrorists, all hiding bombs in compacts and lipstick cases! What devastation!!” Then I guess we can expect all these Republicans to be moving to Arkansas - Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
By Thomas
June 29, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this
Thats easy Buff —
It is not a democracy when you have a totalitarian control over someone with no chance of a true trial by a jury of their peers. That does not allow any form of (democratic) justice. Therefore your government is not a fair and just and democratic government. The trials Bush want are not democratic in nature, they are Tribunals and subject to being what was once known as a hangman’s court. In short it becomes a court of political prisoners with no recourse to argue their side fairly.
Furthermore —
Read the Geneva conventions. I think you will see that Gitmo in no-such way or form adheres to the spirit (or even the letter for that matter) of those agreements.
So if our President violates the Geneva Conventions without oversight or checks and therefore potentially makes himself and his people a nation of having committed War-Crimes, does that in anyway represent that we are a nation of democracy?
I’m afraid it is quite the slippery slope that can quickly destroy Democracy.
By This guy is hilarious !
June 29, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this
Click here
By Fake War Hero Spammer
June 29, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this
By Liberal Texas Democrat June 29, 2006 05:37 PM
The Puffington Host saying it doesn’t make it so.
Look back at the archives, I blew all that crap out of the water, if you use your logic Bill Clinton was a “republican.”
And thanks for showing us who the real spammer is, dumas-s.
By Liberal Texas Democrat
June 29, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this
“”By echoes of whatsisname June 29, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this The pinko activist judges have struck again! America is sinking into the muck of depravity!!*” And let’s not forget the more recent Republican/Pedophile convictions. Ya suppose that was one of them Pinko” judges in charge of the trail EDINBURG, Texas - A political consultant whose company was behind a television ad accusing the Clinton-Gore administration of giving away nuclear technology was convicted of child molestation charges. From Yahoo news, “A jury deliberated almost two days before convicting Carey Lee Cramer, 44, of aggravated sexual assault of a child, two counts of indecency with a child by contact and one count of indecency with a child by exposure. He was cleared of nine other charges Tuesday.”
By there you go again!
June 29, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this
More Americans die violently in Atlanta and New York combined then do in Iraq.
False on so many levels! Americans in NYC and Atlanta?? 9 million. Americans in Iraq?? 130,000.
Americans killed violently in NYC and Atlanta since 2003? 1300. Americans killed in Iraq? 2500+.
The chances of an American dying a violent death in Iraq is 60 times higher than it is in NYC and ATL combined.
SIXTY TIMES HIGHER.
Maybe some day a republican will get in office and we will be able to get it down to just Atlanta but your chances aren’t looking very good right now, hahaha.
It’s just a plain simple fact that I stated, that may be why you neocon idiots are having so much trouble with it, it’s too simple. Everything has to be artifically complicated for you, you’d screw up a wet dream. You can’t just accept things as they are and move on, you have to roll around on the floor with it, like a gorilla with a banana.
I guess that’s what makes you neocons idiots, eh?
Aside from the fact that youre really, really bad at math.
By Scooter
June 29, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this
Would any of these noble defenders of democracy like to comment on any of the following? I thought we were a constitutional republic, but what do I know.
“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” — Thomas Jefferson Dems would love that.
“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” — Thomas Jefferson This is the Dem platform. Do I feel a Paris Hilton Comment coming?
“The tank, the B-52, the fighter-bomber, the state controlled police and the military are the weapons of dictatorship. The rifle is the weapon of democracy. Not for nothing was the revolver called an ‘equalizer.’ Egalite implies liberte.” — Edward Abbey Dems would love to take our weapons away as well.
By Write to a great American
June 29, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this
Here
By Log Cabin Republicans will Rock Your World
June 29, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this
Schwarzenegger to speak at fund-raiser for gay and lesbian Republicans tonight
HOLLYWOOD - Undaunted by charges that he’s turning the GOP in California into “a gay marriage party,” Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger plans to speak tonight at a fund-raiser for a group of gay and lesbian Republicans.
Schwarzenegger is expected to attend the Log Cabin Republicans event to raise money for the organization’s West Coast chapters.
“When he took the oath of office he said he’d be governor for all the people and that’s what he’s doing,” said event organizer Ted Jackson.
“He’s coming to talk to us in an effort to reach out and be inclusive. He’s got a strong record of signing civil rights legislation and an even stronger record of reaching out.”
Schwarzenegger vetoed a same-sex marriage bill last fall but has said he supports domestic partnerships, and, since taking office in 2003, has signed two dozen bills in support of rights for the gay and lesbian communities.
“I think that you know the way I voted, and the bills that I have signed, and the bills that I have vetoed, and this is exactly where my position is,” Schwarzenegger said at a news conference Tuesday in Oakland. “I believe in domestic partnerships and all of that.”
Randy Thomasson, the founder and president of the group Campaign for Children and Families, said that by attending the event, Schwarzenegger is “flip-flopping” on his position.
“He’s not appearing, he’s fund-raising $300,000 to transform the California Republican Party into a gay marriage party, and marriage is for a man and a woman,” Thomasson said.
All you Democrats can forget our vote. We know which party really loves us.
By See, I Was Right
June 29, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this
By there you go again! June 29, 2006 06:04 PM You can’t just accept things as they are and move on, you have to roll around on the floor with it, like a gorilla with a banana.
Rolling on the floor doesn’t change a thing, gorilla, more Americans died violently in Atlanta and New York than they did in Iraq.
Deal with it.
By RE
June 29, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this
Scoot,
I will take you up on that. the 51-49 thing, look at the 10 commandments in the schools and courts, a very conservtive position looking to impose the will of the majority on the minority. I never said under god in school either.
On the second point, there is nothing worse in my mind than a close minded, uptight senior citizen talking about how they should not have to pay for new schools and hate the unemployed while walking down to the mailbox to get a ss check and have thier medicare reimbursed. The greatest threat to this country is not terrorists, illegal aliens, china, or teachers unions…it is the elderly, they vote.
on the third statement, I do not want to say too much. I like having a shotgun in my house, but if that is democracy, who is democratic in Isreal?
By Daniel
June 29, 2006 06:22 PM | Link to this
LTD: Why do you think all those pedophiles have right-wing politics? I have read your post and recall reading some of the entries. I recognize some of these guys. They’re freaks. They’re, not all mind you, fat, and they don’t know how to have a real emotinal relationship with another human being. What is it that causes them to sexually violate little kids?
By Paranoia strikes deep!
June 29, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this
Yessiree, those “Al Qaeda” guys being arrested with such fanfare by the US and its cronies are real terrors. Be scared, man!
In contrast to the truly terrifying Atta, the lead 9/11 hijacker, and 9/11 master strategist Khalid Sheikh Mohammed—both of whom took terrorism to new levels of competence—most Al Qaeda operatives look more like life’s losers, the kind who in a Western culture would join street gangs or become a petty criminals. Like Richard Reid, who tried to set his shoelace on fire. Or Ahmed Ressam, who bolted in a panic from his car at the U.S. border during an alleged mission to bomb the L.A. airport. Or Iyman Faris, who comically believed he could bring down the Brooklyn Bridge with a blowtorch. Or the crazed Zacarias Moussaoui, who was disowned even by bin Laden. Then you’ve got the hapless Lackawanna Six, and, more recently, the Toronto 17, who were thinking about pulling off an Oklahoma City-style attack with ammonium nitrate—or perhaps just beheading the prime minister—but hadn’t quite gotten around to it.
It’s the wingnut Al Qaeda fantasy! Come and roll in the muck of this myth! While real terrorists plot, Bush and his Krazy Klowns chase after bumbling losers who must be actually trying to get arrested.
Bush and the Krazy Klowns should all be sent to a well fenced, tightly guarded quadrant in Crawford Texas and be forced to stay there for the rest of their unnatural lives.
I know. I’m being kind.
By Wrong again!
June 29, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this
more Americans died violently in Atlanta and New York than they did in Iraq.
Too funny!! Wrong and you know it. Your chances as an American of dying violently in Iraq are SIXTY TIMES HIGHER than they are of dying violently in NYC and ATL.
That’s the problem with the Andybots. They are simply incapable of telling the truth.
By No wonder Gore is worried
June 29, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this
Al is barking up every tree about global warming because air conditioning is the reason Democrats can’t win.
No it’s not that their candidates are stark raving mad, it’s the comfort stupid!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…you people are just too much
By Scooter
June 29, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this
RE, seeing the Ten Commandments is not congress writing a law establishing a religion. The courts will not take away your life liberty or property for violating the Ten Commandments, unless they have been written into law. Also, “under God”, all religions have a God, do they not?
To your second point; are you, like me, all for removing the role of government in buying votes with entitlements? If so, how did you feel about the dems not even “coming to the table” so long as individual liberty over our SS accounts was on the table?
I too like you having a shot gun in your home. I find it reactionary hysteria for the left to scream fascist, even though Bush allows us to keep assault weapons in our home.
By Hi finch, err, General Seeker, err, Gorilla
June 29, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this
By Wrong again! June 29, 2006 06:27 PM more Americans died violently in Atlanta and New York than they did in Iraq.
2005 American deaths Atlanta + New York= 900.
2005 American deaths in Iraq= 750.
You lose.
Again.
I’m right as always.
By Liberal Texas Democrat
June 29, 2006 06:42 PM | Link to this
“LTD: Why do you think all those pedophiles have right-wing politics?” I don’t have a clue as to why they are the way they are. I heard someone during a discussion once say, (paraphrasing) that they hide were those who surround them would be most likely not to turn them in because it would be too embarrassing to their cause. In other words those who would put party goals above the welfare of children. Personally I don’t give it that much thought. It’s just one of those fun facts things that trip up easily inflamed.
By intellectual dishonesty
June 29, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this
If you will.
By Lois Luckovich
June 29, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this
I love all Mike’s cartoons, I’m his cousin and I’m biased!
Luv Ya Mike
Lois
By I Won't Burn Up A Bunch Of Bandwith
June 29, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this
Like fake war hero did, but let me show you how easy this is:
Democrat city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Democrat businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Democrat director of the “Young Democrat Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Exactly what the Huff And Puff does.
By Daniel
June 29, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this
LTD: Thanks. I enjoy reading your stuff.
By RE
June 29, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this
Not mine, I am a grown up, and therfore an athiest
Yes, no government should be elected for buying votes. The idea of private SS accounts is mute. 8% going to a govt sponsered investor with added fees and 8% going to a near zero return account is about the same thing.
Man on the third point, I have known a lot of folks with a glock under the bed, an M1 for hunting, or a 12 for protection.
Everyone with an auto has been an fool
By Friends Of The Suicide Bombers, Nice
June 29, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this
8Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights in New York (like jumping out of the flaming WTC, you’re free to do that), which represents more than 200 Guantanamo inmates, said “What this says to the administration is that you can no longer decide arbitrarily what you want to do with people. It upheld the rule of law in this country and determined that the executive has gone beyond the constitution and international law.”*
Bunk
If you read the decision together with the appeals court opinion, the conclusion is inescapable: The Bush administration followed the rule of law, as it saw it laid out in statute and case law. A divided Supreme Court (5-4, if you include Roberts’ earlier decision on the appellate court), saw the law differently. To say that the Bush administration was flouting the law is a slander that only the ignorant or the dishonest would commit-RealClearPolitics.
He’s Talking About Liberals, Ain’t He?
By Billy's War
June 29, 2006 07:22 PM | Link to this
Experience in the Balkans and elsewhere shows that this sort of political-military engagement takes years to complete. Ten years later, we are still in Bosnia and are far from dealing with the tensions in Kosovo. But one former Yugoslav republic has already entered NATO and the European Union, and one more is in the wings. The Balkans have been stabilized, the United States has handed most of the responsibility to the United Nations and the European Union, and the long process of integration is underway.-RealClearPolitics
Ten years and we’re still in Bosnia?
When are we going to “cut and run” from there?
Or do you wormy liberals even care, how can you bash Bush with Bosnia?
By Here's One Flag You Won't Catch A Pinko Burning
June 29, 2006 07:27 PM | Link to this
CLAYTON, Mo., June 28 — President Bush attacked congressional Democrats and the news media at a Republican fundraiser Wednesday night, accusing the opposition of “waving the white flag of surrender” in Iraq and declaring that there is “no excuse” for journalists to write about secret intelligence programs.-WashingtonPost
Hell, as much as they wave it, it couldn’t catch on fire.
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 07:34 PM | Link to this
finch,
Let’s see if you can see the difference in what Andy does and what you’ve been doing all day. What have you had, about 10 names today?
You see Andy gets name jacked all the time and has despicable things posted in his name so he changes names to something descriptive of what he is going to post. Within that comment he almost always tells you who he is.
You change names out of some nasty streak. Apparently you think all conservatives are brainless fools which is your right of course, but it’s really sad that you aren’t man enough just to say it. I know you love to use the “Andy did it too…whaaaa…excuse”, but it doesn’t cut it. You don’t have to worry about being jacked and having vile things said in your name.
No, you do it out of whatever hatred you feel for Andy, myself, and I guess all conservatives. It is really sad to see a grown man act like this. It’s not like you lack the ability to make your misguided points and it’s not like we wouldn’t happily argue with you after you showed the courage to tell us straight up what you think of us.
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
June 29, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this
You cons got crushed today. When Andy is your most prominent poster, you not only reveal yourselves as being wrong, you reveal yourselves as being ignorant as well. Open and close with Andy’s spamming- the strategy of idiots.
By Clueless, Absolutely Clueless Liberals
June 29, 2006 07:48 PM | Link to this
By One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent June 29, 2006 07:39 PM You cons got crushed today.
Then what are you so tore up about?
Sore loser?
RW: It just so obvious, the dude has got some major issues. It’s an unhealthy obsession. When he impersonates me he gets hysterical about it, did you notice that? He doesn’t even make sense, it’s like an act of desperation.
It’s getting kind of creepy.
By Start Rolling On The Floor, Gorillas
June 29, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this
Here’s another banana for you:
“For those who claim that these weapons are not the weapons of mass destruction that the United States went to war over, I would refer them to 17 United Nations Security Council resolutions that Saddam Hussein violated,” Weldon said. “It didn’t say pre-‘91 chemical weapons. It didn’t say post-‘91 chemical weapons. It said chemical weapons.”-NewsMax
By Scooter
June 29, 2006 07:59 PM | Link to this
RE,
Your first statement was very condescending, but I’m glad you are an atheist. I too am grown up but just see entirely too many ironic coincidences to believe this big blue ball is not part of some grand test of mankind. Hopefully, you can see societal good in at least the last five Commandents? Most religions do involve those last five in some form or another. Fact remains that government will not prosecute an individual for violating the Ten Commandments and atheist shouldn’t be so sensitive that they do not want to even see them.
Your take on private investment accounts make me wonder why people even invest in mutual funds for their personal retirement. But, you did give more thought to it than the dems did.
I think that if you had as many bullets fall through your roof as I have, you wouldn’t consider automatically armed individuals as fools, law breakers perhaps, but fools no. But still, many dems would like to take weapons away from all the folks who had theirs registered, while leaving government and criminals armed.
OOTMVD, are you strokin your peegrow? It does look like the left was very good at arguing to give civil rights to the same people whom will use those rights to take ours away (that’s the terrorist, not Bush). Either way, for now kick back, pop a beer, and kick your feet up in self gratification, cheers.
The following threat to democracy remains: “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” — Thomas Jefferson
By Liberal Family Values
June 29, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this
Two civil liberties groups sued in federal court Wednesday to remove a picture of Jesus that has hung in a high school for more than 30 years.
“I frankly cannot understand why this school insists that it is doing nothing wrong,” said the Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United. “This is pretty clear constitutional law. Public schools cannot promote specific religious ideas.”-NewsMax
They’ll keep the picture so they can use it to scold some Republican about immigration.
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 08:09 PM | Link to this
Andy,
They’re all kind of nutty. rushncap tells you that all you do is link and tells me I never provide any sources. One of the deluded moonbats or whatever his name is this month says that you just ramble on and that all I do is provide right wing links.
Now these are people that are always telling us how brilliant and omnipotent they are. finch has just lost it, I don’t know if there is any hope for him
One of the deluded moonbats,
I was golfing all afternoon. Good job holding your own against me for once. Enough practice and maybe you can do it while I’m actually here.
By New Toon!
June 29, 2006 08:30 PM | Link to this
And wouldn’t you know it, he’s torturing the President in it.
I have to give Mr. Pot To Kettle credit on something, he admits a very big concession in this toon. Look at how much respect he’s giving to the “courts” now that Roberts and Alito are members. Luckovich must recognize their wizened Conservative knowledge and experience.
I knew he’d come around.
Just think, some day maybe a flattering cartoon of Rumsfeld if this keeps up.
By RW-(the original)
June 29, 2006 08:48 PM | Link to this
New Toon!,
ml seems to be very happy to picture the United States having to sit in a confined area and hoping they can stop whatever attack should happen to materialize. Like the dog in the picture, the United States risks sitting in a very vulnerable position and we all know that the scribbler and his merry band of barking moonbats will be the first to say he should have prevented the next attack by being more proactive.
ml, I hope you’re happy leading your useful idiots to slaughter. (and to all you whiny libs, that was an intentional exaggeration-you figure out which part)
By Terminally right
June 29, 2006 09:10 PM | Link to this
I’m right! I know I’m right!! I post first thing in the morning with gems filled with self righteousness! Okay, they’re also totally lacking in facts and reason, but so what?? Then I say I wont post any more! Okay, that’s a lie too. I can’t stop, but I won’t go there…
Aside from the lies, you know my posts by my signature signoffs! I gotta show those pinkos, them liberals, them gays, them socialists, them WANKERS just how much I want to piddle all over them! God I love calling people wankers. Or gay wankers! Wow!
I’m not here to educate! I’m not here to debate! I dont believe in dialogue! I’m here to HARASS LIBERALS!! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again! HARASS HARASS HARASS!! And this time I’m telling the truth!!! Harass! (I like that word. Its got that ‘a’ word in it!)
But (sniff) those darn pinkos actually have the audacity to harass me back! They catch my lies, rebut my arguments (rebut! I like that word too!) and they actually call me names!! And then they make fun of me! They even pretend theyre me, although anyone who isn’t brain dead would realize that’s not REALLY me. I think. Have they no decency?? Sob!!
I could go post someplace where my politics would be appreciated, but that’s not the same as childishly HARASSING someone like I can here! I could even start my own blog, but I’m scared to death no one would visit it! All right. I’d better be honest. Yeah, I know that’s not like me, but seriously, I don’t hate the ridicule and contempt all that much. The fact is, I really crave the attention. I couldn’t get it anywhere else. Just between you and me, that’s why I blow up and get illogical and hysterical. It’s my cry for help, but it also gets me noticed! Well, sometimes it gets me too noticed, like that time I posted all that garbage from Kos, and now you can’t really post on nights and weekends anymore. But it serves all those pinkos right! I would have held my breath until I turned blue, but this got me lots more attention. I love attention!
I really should thank my enablers here. All 4 or 5 of them. They’re the ones who think its okay if I (but ONLY I) almost never use the same name, and they look the other way when I jack names or post spam. And the way they criticize other people when they do exactly the same things I do (except for the mega Kos posts. I did that) is just above and beyond! They exemplify the double standard I see for America! You know, do as I say, not as I do. Say youre a Christian but reject Christian values. I live for that concept.
I’m going to soldier on here. I know darn well I’m not convincing anybody of anything. Like I’ve said before, the only reason I’m here is to harass libs. You know, I like being the pebbles in the shoes of pinkos that exasperates them. No more, no less (not that there’s anything less! Ho ho!) I guess I could use my time more productively, campaigning for fellow gay hating Conservatives and against that Cynthia McKinney or John Murtha. But the shallow, empty satisfaction and ATTENTION I get here makes my life worth living! Just as Bill O’Reilly lives for his loofah fantasies, I live for the richly deserved abuse and ridicule I get here. Which is why I spend hours and hours and HOURS here!
To all 4 or 5 of my faithful defenders, thank you. Your checks are in the mail. To all my harassers, please stop it some more! It hurts sooooo good!
By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent
June 29, 2006 09:32 PM | Link to this
RW,
While you’re lecturing finch about how “It is really sad to see a grown man act like this,” I would point you to this quote of yours to gadem from yesterday: “Sorry you aren’t invited. You’re too much a p-ussy to be any fun while The “R’s” keep piling up. rushncap is at least feisty, but alas I see he’s scared of being outside his bubble.” I’m sure your daughter would be proud, RW.
The next time you win an argument with anyone on this site will be your first time. You’re a sorry apologist who does nothing but rationalize the misdeeds of your party. To win a debate one must have 1) a modicum of intelligence 2) a valid point 3) the ability to substantiate that point with logical support. Unfortunately, you’re still working on #1.
Andy,
“Dude has got some major issues”? Talk about Pot to Kettle. “It’s an unhealthy obsession”? You almost perfectly described yourself and your behavior on this blog. How many people of all political persuasions have you annoyed with your constant spamming, idiotic links, and silly ideas? Just about everyone who has ever clicked on Comments.
Tell us some more about how Iraq is safer for Americans than NYC or ATL. I find it absolutely hilarious how you will argue the most ridiculous points to the extent that we all just shake our heads at your lack of reasoning ability. I can’t believe you would bring that stupidity up again today. You really do need to get yourself an education. It shows daily.
Terminally right,
You obviously are intricately familiar with both this blog and Andy. Dead on with the style, the specifics of his case, and the obsessive compulsive sociopathic rant. Nice work.
Andy,
So there are at least two people out here now with almost the exact same perspective on you and your garbage. How many more people tomorrow will be exposed to your stench? 80? 90? 300? Good work. Sorry I can’t say you’re appreciated.
By Scooter
June 29, 2006 10:06 PM | Link to this
* “After leaving Afghanistan, the Muslim fighters headed for Somalia and prepared for a long battle, thinking that the Americans were like the Russians,” bin Laden said. “The youth were surprised at the low morale of the American soldiers and realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat. And America forgot all the hoopla and media propaganda … about being the world leader and the leader of the New World Order, and after a few blows they forgot about this title and left, dragging their corpses and their shameful defeat.”*
What prevents us from [calling] a general alert is that the country (Iraq) has no mountains in which we can take refuge and no forests in whose thickets we can hide.
So lets go to Afghanistan and focus on UBL?
Or we could hold Saddam accountable for years of deciet and distract UBL by making him focus on that country with no mountains or forest. While we are in this flat desert country we could set an example of represenatative government by standing up a police and military, then we can stand down. Sounds almost like a plan.
“There is no doubt that the space in which we can move has begun to shrink and that the grip around the throats of the mujahidin has begun to tighten. With the deployment of soldiers and police, the future has become frightening.”
I’ll bet the libs on this site won’t bother reading the links, because they were born knowing it all. Whacking moles has worked since the late seventies and don’t change it if it aint broken, right? Just be sure to afford the terrorist the protections of our constitution.
By Yes, finch (9:10) Has Some Major Issues
June 30, 2006 04:52 AM | Link to this
By One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent June 29, 2006 09:32 PM Andy, “Dude has got some major issues”?
That’s right.
Your not defending 9:10 as sane and normal discourse among political opponents, are you?
He’s pretty much lost it. I feel for his family.
I urge him to seek professional help.
Why am I the issue, anyway? Is your political party, ideology, ideas, platforms and future so weak that you have no defense against me, all you can do is try to frame me as the problem?
That’s an awfully weak position.
By Alright, Gorilla, Let's Try It This Way
June 30, 2006 05:29 AM | Link to this
By One of the Majority’s Voices of Dissent June 29, 2006 09:32 PM Tell us some more about how Iraq is safer for Americans than NYC or ATL. I find it absolutely hilarious how you will argue the most ridiculous points to the extent that we all just shake our heads at your lack of reasoning ability.
How about if you tell me how many Americans were killed last year in Iraq and then how many were killed in NY and ATL?
Don’t give me any of your liberal mental masturbation or self abuse theories, just answer the question.
Sucks, don’t it?