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By Mike Luckovich | Wednesday, June 21, 2006, 07:55 PM

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By I Report, They Whine

June 22, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

There you have it, the cartoon says it all. According to the liberals, the United States is no better than Al Qaeda. Can it be made more plain to see?

This is a red letter day for liberalism, it’s like coming out of the closet, so to speak. Thank You, Thank You, Thank You for clarifying this for all to behold.

No matter how much cartoon boy warmed to this “idea,” even if it helped him to achieve an anti American erection, there are very few normal people that will consider this even remotely funny.

Unless they got there heads up the MoveOn’s a-ss like most of these pinkos do.

Pandering to the party lunatics at the expense of our security.

By I Report, They Whine

June 22, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

Peggy Noonan, Wall Street Journal, nails it:

I thought of him the other day when I saw Howard Dean say something intemperate on TV. I actually can’t remember what it was, one intemperate Dean statement blending into another as they do. I was standing near a small screen with recent acquaintances, all of them relatively nonpolitical, and as I watched Mr. Dean speak I blurted, “Why does he say things like that?” A middle-aged woman—intelligent, professional—answered, “Because he thinks they’re stupid.”

He thinks who’s stupid? I asked. The press? “His party,” she said. We both laughed because it sounded true.

By I Report, They Whine

June 22, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

Calling retreat: Not a winner By Donald Lambro, Washington Times June 22, 2006

This has not been a good month for the Democrats who are more dispirited, divided and in disarray than ever before about what to do in Iraq.

When a party’s leadership is unable to unite behind a clear position on the No. 1 national security issue facing America, it is not ready to govern. And that is the situation in which the Democrats now find themselves.

Looks like the truth to me, anyone want to dispute that?

I dare you.

You liberals aren’t serious people and neither are your “leaders.”

By Bobby Elrod

June 22, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

How dare you! The other day you talk about visiting the wounded solders at Walter Reed, and now you go and spit in the faces of our two young boys who were tortured and beheaded this past week, by comparing that to barking dogs and naked mosh pits. Consider my ever spending a dime on your rag forgotten, and I will be showing this to every one of my fellow vets and giving them that same advise.

By Scooter

June 22, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this

ml, at least you could have portrayed the Alqaida (sp) guy as complaining that he has to leave the head on. But you are ml the patriot.

What our “media” doesn’t tell us Zarqawi said; “There is no doubt that the space in which we can move has begun to shrink and that the grip around the throats of the mujahidin has begun to tighten. With the deployment of soldiers and police, the future has become frightening.”

By Edward Williams Jr.

June 22, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this

Direcetly comparing American soldiers to head-chopping, WTC-destroying Al Qaida terrorists… this constitutes a much lower low than I thought ANYONE this side of Al Jazeera was capable of.

By Tell Us Again How Much You Love The Dixie Chicks

June 22, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this

Mr. Murtha’s howlers about Okinawa obscured a more revealing comment he made earlier on CNN. He cited President Clinton’s abrupt withdrawal from Somalia after 19 Rangers were killed there in 1993 as an example of the policy the U.S. should follow in Iraq.

Because he is a retired Marine Reserve colonel who served in Vietnam, Rep. Murtha is regarded as one of the Democrats’ leading strategic thinkers. This, sadly, may be the case.

Mr. Murtha sounds less like a Marine colonel these days, and more like a male Cindy Sheehan. Has he become senile? Or was he always this stupid?- RealClearPolitics

By God Bless the War

June 22, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

Not too much difference in the US forces and al Queda any more, is there? Both engage in torture and kill the innocent elders, women, and children. I’ll bet the Iraqis sure can’t tell any difference when those M-16 rounds are going through their childrens brains. Great job, Bushie ! ! !

God bless the war AND OUR WAR PROFITS ! ! !

By Writer

June 22, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

Yes, We can see how putting lady’s underwear on someones head equates to castrating a living person, stuffing his p***s in his mouth (still living) and opening him up from stem to stern. Funny, I thought the LEFT was the ones who always say that there should be no absolutes since everything is relative.

By greiner3

June 22, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this

Does this mean that this comic and any like it will be outlawed after the dark side passes the flag amendment? Lol, if so then comics will have to resort to symbols (like the flag is, it’s only a symbol), say like showing a swastica in red, white and blue colors to show what it really means. Being a Cox newspaper, I am surprised, no, shocked, that you would show a progressive comic as this one. My hats off to you! Keep up the good work. And my advice to the hate mongers that have posted so far; Why do you hate America?

By G. Lestrade

June 22, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this

The “Pot to Kettle” cartoon provides encouragement to al-Qaeda. “Just keep doing what you’re doing. The US media is behind you all the way.”

By gttim

June 22, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

Sadly, this is what the Bush administration has brought the US to in the eyes of the world. It is horrible that they have changed the way the world looks at us to such a degree. Now, we torture people. That is the bottom line. It is unacceptable.

As far as supporting the troops? Now that our nation is known as one who tortures people, our soldiers are much more likely to be tortured. I don’t want that. One of the reasons behind the Geneva Conventions is to make sure that our soldiers are not tortured, and in return for that we do not torture others.

If the GOP and the Bush administration wants to support the troops, they need to start treating others they way we want to be treated- I have heard that somewhere before. They also need to start funding more hospitals and quicker treatment for our injured vets. They could also start paying the soldiers more. They are fighting for us so let’s raise the taxes on the rich and pay the people who are fighting. Let’s share the sacrifice. It is the only patriotic thing to do!

By RW-(the original)

June 22, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

So far the United States has been found to have played loud music at night and turned down the temperature on some prisoners and put some panties on the heads of others. The people responsible have been prosecuted by the United States.

Pfc. Kristian Menchaca and Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker were recently found murdered with their bodies desecrated to the point that no identification could be made without taking the remains for DNA testing. By some reports these soldiers had their hearts cut out and were castrated. The bodies were booby trapped and the path to them lined with explosives.

According to Mike Luckovich and, by virtue of their running this depiction, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution these things are equal in nature and our military men and women are no better than brutal savage murderers.

Mike, this is the most disgusting and despicable thing you have ever published and you should be ashamed of yourself. I suppose rather than issue an apology you will fire off a copy of this drawing to the Pulitzer committee. When you are yucking it up and drinking champagne at your next award ceremony, I hope the images of these two brave soldiers will creep into some tiny portion of your soul. If you even have one.

By w00t

June 22, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

Once again, you guys are blind. No, I wouldn’t even call you guys blind. You only see what you want to see. It’s like those “magic” posters that used to be in the mall. If you stare at it long enough you might see the image. You’re just the guys that lie and say, “oh, yeah, I saw it… it’s a sail boat, right?”

THINK! What else could the cartoon mean!?!?

By Loren Cook

June 22, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this

Why don’t you liberals get it? We are at war because we were attacked on 9/11. What are you going to do if confronted by a terrorist, throw an ink bottle at them? You ought to admit you are Anti American and you are a coward.

Sincerely,

Loren Cook

By A.L.

June 22, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

This cartoon is yet another fine example of how Monica Luckovich supports the troops.

Pathetic.

By Scooter

June 22, 2006 08:29 AM | Link to this

Progressive: progress towards global capitulation and understanding, while domestically fostering social dependence. Don’t worry, the dependence only bloats government and gives it more power.

You can sign up as a progressive at your local ballot box.

Vote Libertarian and cut’em both off.

By w00t

June 22, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

Why don’t you liberals get it? We are at war because we were attacked on 9/11. What are you going to do if confronted by a terrorist, throw an ink bottle at them? You ought to admit you are Anti American and you are a coward.

But, Loren, I thought we were at war for WMD’s… no wait that’s not it… it was for liberating the people. I can’t ever remember cause we go through so many reasons. Well, at least they finally got their al-Qaeda ties to Iraq….

By Think B-4 You Speak!

June 22, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this

Loren - Are you writing from Baghdad, maybe Kabul?

By RW-(the original)

June 22, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this

gttim,

Was this administration and its policies of prisoner detention the cause of our soldiers bodies being desecrated and dragged through the streets of Mogadishu?

For our new contributers today “gttim” is a diarist at the daily kos, so he comes by his blame America first feelings quite easily.

By finch

June 22, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

As much fun as I have trashing the Moonie Times (because it’s such a delight to see Suck… well, whine like a little girl!) I’ll hold off for a bit.

This cartoon suggests similarities between Islamic extremist behavior and policy (we lop off heads, take pictures and LIKE it!) and US behavior and policy (no beheadings, no mutilations. Pictures are strongly discouraged).

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Meanwhile, I truly hope that wingnuts continue to wallow in the fantasy that this cartoon reflects the thinking of all “liberals”. Such stereotypes spell the wingnut’s doom

By Tell Us Again How Much You Support The Troops

June 22, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

By gttim June 22, 2006 08:22 AM Now that our nation is known as one who tortures people, our soldiers are much more likely to be tortured.

Does anyone actually believe that? Anyone who doesn’t have their head up MoveOn’s a-ss, I mean?

Al Qaeda’s main “battle” plan in Iraq is to slaughter innocent women and children with suicide bombers, bombers who are usually mentally retarded or stoned on heroin. They behead the prisoners they take, prisoners taken not on the battlefield, but from their homes and behead them.

They slaughtered office workers with planes filled with innocent civilians on the very first day of this war.

Keep defending your soldiers, pinko liberals, idiot gttim and all the rest of you losers, let everybody know who you really are.

By Woman of Valor

June 22, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

This cartoon is a fine example of the typical Liberal conceit that any and all horrors perpetrated by the Islamofascists are somehow to be laid at America’s door. We must don sackcloth and ashes, beat our breasts and take responsibility for every murderous thug out there who wants to restore the caliphate and raise the star and crescent flag over every corner of the world. Luckovich, your career is over, because even you can’t go any lower than this.

By E. Griffin

June 22, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Talk about poison pen journalism. This paper and this ‘cartoonist’ should have all their ink confiscated for this obsene, despicable, and anti- American statement.

By Publius

June 22, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Your cartoon is worthy of the Volkischer Beobachter. The enemy uses murder and torture as part of a deliberate campaign of intimidation and terror, seeking to control its people. We have a thoughtful policy of restraint and law but, as Samuel Johnson said, “An army cannot consist of philosophers.” Some crimes thus occur on our side but do not represent or really reflect upon out troops — although the MSM seizes upon these incidents to slime them for partisan-hack reasos. Your cartoon is therefore not a satirical exaggeratio but fundamentally a detestable falsehood.

By Think B-4 You Speak!

June 22, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

An objective mind wouldn’t look at this cartoon and jump to the conclusion that we are the same as al qaeda; however, I can see how the halfwits here get their outrage.

As smart as some of you people claim to be it’s amazing that you have so much trouble wrapping your little minds around something. Unless of course, you psuedo rage is an attempt to outrage the other simpletons.

By General Seeker, On Top Of It

June 22, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this

We have ten new visitors to the blog and it isn’t even nine o’clock yet, all of them tagging you liberals with your new policy statement:

By finch June 22, 2006 08:39 AM Meanwhile, I truly hope that wingnuts continue to wallow in the fantasy that this cartoon reflects the thinking of all “liberals”. Such stereotypes spell the wingnut’s doom

What a jac-k off. How can this abomination of a cartoon be our problem?

This must be definition day for you liberals, let the world know who you really are.

So this is what Pelosi was talking about with y’alls new direction, eh?

Just flat out join the enemy?

By nick mallory

June 22, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

This is a dreadful cartoon, you ought to be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves. Not only do you gloat over the deaths of two brave American servicemen, you openly state that American servicemen are no better than the barbaric butchers who murdered and mutilated them.

This shows a complete disrespect for the facts and for any objective standards of morality. The cartoonist has no brain and no heart. You know what would be a brave and outspoken and radical comment from ‘Mike’ right now?

An apology.

You guys aren’t ‘anti war’ - you’re on the other side.

By Pluto's dad

June 22, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

It is odd how in the Left’s mind the following are equivalent:

withholding air conditioning = beheading

red ink spilled on you = beheading

good cop bad cop = beheading

forced to stand = beheading

water poured over your head = beheading

all of that done to a small percentage of prisoners, while the rest got to play soccer outside = beheading

yes, I can see how we are just as bad as them, and we are the “root cause”

By SSDD

June 22, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

Andy, andy, andy.

Can you SEE the forest for the trees? Are you so blinded by your devotion to your party that you cannot recognize the hypocrisy of Americans torturing anyone, anywhere, at anytime a complete contradiction and negation of what a TRUE AMERICAN should stand for?

I believe I read “LIFE, LIBERTY, & THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS” somewhere… Should that only apply to an AMERICAN or should we be a shining example of righteousness???

THE POINT is “do as I SAY not as I DO”

Mike’s not trying to crap on the soldiers. He’s saying Americans should be held to the same standards we are attempting to ESTABLISH, not creating havoc by doing the EXACT contrary and creating a scenario where ONCE AGAIN all we SAY is “we are trying to create democracy in the Middle East” and then torturing a person… who MAY BE a terrorist, who MAY BE a member of al queda, but in DOING the act, in BECOMING the equivalent of a terrorist, by torturing and spreading more hate and violence, WHO BECOMES THE MONSTER?

Think you conservative, conformist sycophants! Utilize that space between your ears!

If we become the same as al queda to “right the wrongs unleashed upon us” (see:9/11) then what have we become? Certainly not a warrior who defends freedom, liberty, free expression… and certainly not the pursuit of happiness. We have become no different than them if that happens. One CANNOT become the equivalent to the enemy by exploiting the same tactics and campaigns that only serve to spawn fear and distrust.

And don’t come back with “I see. Everyone should be HAPPY in ‘lib world’ “

NOT what I said. I said NO ONE SHOULD LIVE IN FEAR.

By Why Don't You Explain This Hidden Meaning Then?

June 22, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

By Think B-4 You Speak! June 22, 2006 08:47 AM An objective mind wouldn’t look at this cartoon and jump to the conclusion that we are the same as al qaeda; however, I can see how the halfwits here get their outrage.

By George

June 22, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

No matter how much cartoon boy warmed to this “idea,” even if it helped him to achieve an anti American erection, there are very few normal people that will consider this even remotely funny.

Andy, I hope that you are not including yourself as one of the “normal” ones.

By Let Me Step Aside

June 22, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this

By SSDD June 22, 2006 08:53 AM Andy, andy, andy.

ML has already crapped on the troops and on the whole entire country of the United States of America.

You, dic-khead, can talk to all the outraged people that will be coming here today, coming here to help you settle into your new policy statement.

I’ll let them speak.

By getalife

June 22, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this

Well Mike, if you look at the poll count you will see new visitors here today from the lgf

Emotions are high, the gloves are coming off and the nation is divided. Casey says to begin to withdraw the troops so there is good news today.

By RW-(the original)

June 22, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

STDS,

That 8:53 does a fine job of encapsulating the loopy position you seem to share with ml, gttim, and a few others of your ilk. (doesn’t that word suck? appropriate though)

You accuse the American military of being a merry band of brutal torturers and then take the high road by pointing out that we shouldn’t do that. Now if the first point had any basis in fact the second would be true. Since it isn’t you are just a low-life anti-American slimebag like ml. Maybe I should now take the high road and lecture you on how we can’t rid the world of anti-American slimebags while you and ml are still plying your trade.

By w00t

June 22, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

You, dic-khead, can talk to all the outraged people that will be coming here today, coming here to help you settle into your new policy statement.

Nice language. However, these “outraged” people are just as blind as you and refuse to see the truth for the “support” of your never-wrong party.

By John Anderson

June 22, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

Just some more of the hate America crowd. Keep it up. Thanks for the campaign material.

By Shep

June 22, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this

Is it just me, or are Liberal political cartoons becoming more and more like childish ‘this is what are! - stick tongue out ’ drawings than witty observations on current events?

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 22, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

While this cartoon certainly comes close to crossing the line, it may be good to remember a few facts in relation to this war- We would likely not be involved in it had we not orchestrated torture. Early in the war in Afghanistan the CIA used rendition to transport a relatively high-level Al Queda suspect to Egypt with the intention of having him tortured. No, we probably weren’t the ones doing the torturing in that case, but we sent him to Egypt expressly for that purpose, because at that time Rumsfeld hadn’t expanded the torture guidelines for our military yet.

After being extensively tortured, this Al Queda operative spit out the information that Dick Cheney so desperately wanted to hear- that Al Queda was associated with Saddam and Iraq. Of course, it wasn’t true; the suspect just told the “interrogators” what they wanted to hear in order to avoid more suffering.

This information became central to the administration’s justification to go to war because there were so few credible links, actually none. So they went with what they had- false information tortured out of someone and false information given to them from a false source “inside” Iraq. They pushed this information through press leaks, the president’s state-of-the-union address, and Colin Powell’s address to the U.N.

Of course, since then the justification has gone from a connection to Al Queda to WMD’s to the liberation of an oppressed people, and about 30% of the country continues to buy (Danish/Granny?) any and every fabrication the administration creates.

No, our use of torture does not approach the brutality of Islamic extremists, but we do use it, and our use of it is responsible in large part for the war, 2500 American deaths, and 70,000+ civilian deaths.

By Bill Sluis

June 22, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

A low blow against the fine Men and Women of the armed forces, to compare their service to the villainous and racsist, yes racist, actions of the Al Queida network worldwide. In africa the Al Queida have been a dogmatic driving force for the genocide in Sudan, in indonesia they have lead the slaughter of ethinc minorities and hindus. While America arrests and prosecutes her own for acts of violence and indictes 7 marines and 1 sailor for the death of an Iraqi citizen the Al Queda in Iraq attempt to stir the pot of civil war through car bombing the famed Golden Mosgue of the Shia and kiling mourners during funerals. The left’s dogmatic blindness is destroying their ability to govern this nation and guaranteeing a long era of Republican leadership. I am not worried about the 2006 congressional election, the American people know that a body of insular beauracrats, I.E. the Democrats, will not serve their interests nor have the strenght to protect Americans both here and abroad.

By Think B-4 You Speak!

June 22, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this

Why Don’t You Explain the Hidden Meaning - Well, normally, I don’t like to do people’s work for them, but in your case I’ll make an exception. However, I don’t think you are capable of stepping outside of your tight little box.

Look at their “utilities.” The Al Qaeda guy has a knife, while the good ole U.S. of A is wielding a PR (or billy club to you non-law enforcement or military types) and some rope (maybe wire).

This is probably a reference to Abu Ghraib. A logical, maybe even objective person, would look at the cartoon and think that it’s saying,”hey, we may do a little torture but you guys are downright ridiculous.”

Regardless of a little waterboarding or denial of sleep, it’s still torture. They just take it to a whole new level - thus etiquette book.

It’s actually kind of funny to me. But most of you have already demonstrated your need to overreact and try to fuel that rage by throwing in the two soldiers who were recently killed. That’s to be expected, afterall you are probably the same people who stand behind Bush so firmly. Iraq is an overreaction and it fits your MO.

By Mike

June 22, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

I can’t believe that Lucko would actually compare US soldiers to Al Qaeda. Keep in mind that two American soldiers were just mutilated by Al Qaeda. Eyes guaged out, hearts cut out, etc. Does he really believe that it is equivalent? Just goes to show how far left Lucko really is. With the announcement that 500 lbs of chemical weapons were found in Iraq, another liberal theory goes to die. Not only does that prove that Saddam didn’t destroy all of his WMD’s after the Gulf War, it also shows that Hans Blix’s inspection teams failed their mission in Iraq. It will be interesting to see how the left reacts to this disclosure.

By w00t

June 22, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

Yes, down with the flag, the troops suck… blah blah blah.

This is the only defense you guys have left. Any time someone makes a VALID point, they’re automagically deemed a lib and they hate America. Come on guys, you can do better than that.

What SSDD was saying is that we should hold ourselves (or the US government) to the same standards that we expect from other countries and terrorist groups that capture our troops and our civilians.

Maybe you guys forgot about the CIA prisons“>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/01/AR2005110101644.html) spread around the world.

Maybe the Geneva conventions just don’t apply to use, cause, oh I forgot, we’re in a time of war.

By LindaSoG

June 22, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

What could possibly be worse than being captured by Al-Qaida operatives? What could be worse than your facial features cut off and/or mutilated, your genitals being chopped off, being beaten, and burned, your head sawed off with a kitchen knife, having your corpse dumped in the street, stuffed with explosives as a trap to kill your friends and countrymen who come to find you?

Why, being captured by the United States of America and having a pair of women’s panties put on your head! Or being threatened by a barking dog! Or being stacked with other naked terrorists into a pyramid. Or being put on a leash.

Sure its worse! Just ask Al-Qaida operative Mike Luckovitch

Al-Qaida would do the same to you, Mike, congratulations, today, you have promoted the enemy agenda and I’m sure Al-Qaida is grateful for your efforts on their behalf.

By Mark Rush

June 22, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

Thank you for reminding me why I refused to renew my subscription.

By Think B-4 You Speak!

June 22, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

Hey Mike - For you and everybody else that is going to bring up the “recently discovered” WMD. Read the rest of the story, (Paul Harvery voice for effect)! The WMDs that were found were produced during the early 90’s - well 90-91 to be exact. They were probably ineffective as weapons, and certainly not enough to threaten the U.S. with.

By Welcome Visitors!

June 22, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

As you may have noticed there is a certain faction of pinko liberals that populate this blog and they are quite vocal about their anti American sentiments. Today they have been outed in the most major way and I don’t think they have realized how bad this is, comprehension is not really their strong point. They will continue to defend this filthy abomination of a cartoon because A) they are actually members of Al Qaeda, B) their hatred of the United States is impossible to suppress, C) They are too stupid to realize what they are saying.

It’s most likely a combination of all these factors but keep in mind this very important fact: They are a minuscule minority that hasn’t won an election outright in decades. They have been all but vanquished from power in this great country of ours.

Encourage them to keep these types of stupid hateful outbursts coming, every one of them helps us to rid the United States of this filthy disease called liberalism.

By gadem

June 22, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this

Way to try to open their closed little minds TBYS. Even after breaking it down to them, they will still say that it means something entirely different. I bet they have a horrible time at taking logic test.

By Steve

June 22, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this

Gee, and some say there’s a liberal bias in the media.

I don’t get it. The media’s clearly on the side of Al-Queda (you know that organization in Iraq that has no ties with Iraq?), but do you think that’s going to stop some terrorist from destroying some major blue-state city if they have the chance?

Oh well… I guess I’m trying to find logic in the warped minds of leftwing “thinkers”.

By SSDD

June 22, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this

By Let Me Step Aside June 22, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this By SSDD June 22, 2006 08:53 AM Andy, andy, andy. ML has already crapped on the troops and on the whole entire country of the United States of America. You, dic-khead, can talk to all the outraged people that will be coming here today, coming here to help you settle into your new policy statement. I’ll let them speak.

Angry much?

Isn’t anger the path to the dark side? <— I believe Andy called me Yoda yesterday, so I thought I’d throw that in.

I don’t think for a split second that what happened to those two soldiers last week was OK. I don’t think that their murderers should be free. If it was the new “head” of A.Q. in Iraq that tortured and killed them, then yes, he needs to go just as Al Zarqawi needed to go. BUT. Does anyone else notice a PATTERN here?

A.Q. attacks U.S.

U.S. responds.

Chop down the current leader.

New one pops up.

Chop down consequent “leader”.

New one pops up.

Google “CHIMERA”

Maybe you’ll begin to see the POINT!

If something is broke, its time to try a different tactic.

I don’t want ANY MORE Americans to die for this B.S. war. Its total crap that our brave soldiers keep having to relinquish THEIR lives for ol’ Gee-golly-dubya. Where are his 2 kids? They are “of age” to be fighting. GO. FIGHT.

Where are all of you? If this war has such importance in your lives then GO. FIGHT.

“I was in _ while you were in diapers”. Fabulous. You procreate? Where are your kids? GO. FIGHT.

You people are so BLINDED by your rage and bloodlust you cannot see the CONSEQUENCES of your actions. Breathe “step aside”. WHOO-SAAAAH. And learn to think for yourself.

By McFarland

June 22, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

So what you’re saying in this cartoon is that our troops and al qaeda are basically the same? What color are the clouds on your planet?

By Vatican Lectures

June 22, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

The two GI’s were isolated at a checkpoint. HOW? WHY?

This is a symptom of an army without a mission. Our army is milling around in the sand, merely targets, and we will lose any war of attrition. Cheney himself estimated the insurgency numbers at 400k.

What is the mission of our troops in Iraq?

WHAT IS THE MISSION OF OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ????

By Gordon

June 22, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

Daniel Pearl called. He says the U.S. is exactly the same as aQ. Nice work.

By John Greco

June 22, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

Yeah.

Ask any of those Abu Ghraib detainees how they felt about having panties put on their heads and then ask Nick Berg how he felt about having his head sawed off while he was screaming and gurgling.

I’m sure the answers would be similar. “I felt so degraded.”

The fact that there are people out there who truly believe these actions are equivelant is sad.

I’m heartened, however, by the fact that the vast majority of the commenters here do not feel the same way.

The “hate America” crowd is not the majority. They just act like they are.

Cheers.

By Think B-4 You Speak!

June 22, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

Frankly, I think we should finish this war a little old fashioned! Sent out some propoganda to all the villages in Iraq, announcing one last “showdown!” No weapons, hand-to-hand, Coalition troops vs. Al Qaeda and any other Haji that wants to play. When they show up ready to fight, carpet bomb the sh!t out of the place.

I guess the only problem is the cowards wont show.

By Mike

June 22, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

Think before you speak, read my post. My point was that it proves that Saddam repeatedly lied by saying that he had destroyed all the WMD’s he had. No to mention that Hans Blix inspectors managed to miss 500 lbs of munitions. Now you are right, the weapons were probably ineffective as far as firing them from an artillery piece, however they still could have give the mustard and sarin gas to terrorists to use in the US. So while they munitions themselves might not have been a direct threat to the US, the gases within them were.

By You Reached This Conclusion Because You Are A Sicko

June 22, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

By Think B-4 You Speak! June 22, 2006 09:18 AM

But you are free to giggle to yourself, weirdo.

By Vatican Lectures

June 22, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

WHAT

IS

THE MISSION

OF US TROOPS IN IRAQ????

(Mr. Right, you have the floor)

By @@

June 22, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

By Think B-4 You Speak!

Why Don’t You Explain the Hidden Meaning - Well, normally, I don’t like to do people’s work for them..

You’re kidding right? It is amazing to me how people like you “create your own reality”. Why don’t you just tell us that you’re in bed with ml, but you’re not engaging in body contact.

The two soldiers above were “eventually killed, but only after suffering slow dismemberment.

I get a little water up my nose when I shower, but I’ll have the opportunity to shower tomorrow.

I’m not sure a shower would do you any good.

By Vatican Lectures

June 22, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

WHAT IS THE MISSION OF OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ?

WHAT IS THE MISSION OF OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ?

WHAT IS THE MISSION OF OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ?

WHAT IS THE MISSION OF OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ?

By Pixie Stik

June 22, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Oh, I get it… Clarification is always good. A dozen US marines out of 130,000 stick underwear on the heads of terrorist prisoners and strip them naked and let dogs bark at them, and Al Qaeda barbarians slice of the heads and rip up the bodies of 2 US Marines and there you have it! Moral Equivalence. I GET NOW! OH my gosh. MR. Luckovich, congrats for clearing THAT ONE UP! You must have learned that at COLLEGE. Did you happen to study under the renouned scholarship of Noam Chompski, Juan Cole, or maybe Ward Churchill? You know Mike, If you were over in Iraq doing your clever and oh so thought provoking cartoons, you would be the first to lose your head to these animals no mater how FAIR and NUETRAL you may be. May I be the first to donate to your one way ticket… ;) Pixie

By Scott

June 22, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

It’s sad that the chickenhawks who responded on this site would trivialize what “some” of our soldiers have done down to putting underwear on someone’s head.

Take your heads out of the sand people.

It’s not the Democrats fault we invaded Iraq; a non-terrorist state.

By Think B-4 You Speak!

June 22, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

Mike - I know what you were doing, you were throwing it out there to try to get one up on the “liberals.” How do you know Saddam didn’t lie and really had no knowledge of such a small stock of WMDs. Saddam didn’t do anything small and everyone knows that - look at the 60 something palaces.

Mustard and Sarin gas would be pretty useless against our troops. The military has been prepared for a long time to deal with those gases - dating back to the first Gulf War. The military looks at mustard gas like you look at your nasal spray. Some of the hardcore military folks use it to deodorize their rooms. (just kidding). Sarin may be an issue, but, again, the military is prepared to handle that.

By w00t

June 22, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

Yes, damn Hans Blix and damn 168,754 sq mi of iraq to cover. I guess we should feed him to the sharks.

By SSDD

June 22, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

Keep it up V.L.

I’d LOVE to hear today’s “talking point” answer.

By Natalie

June 22, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

Perhaps now maybe the owners of AJC might begin to understand why their subscription base is dropping about 10% a year.

Any paper that would print a cartoon this distasteful about the very people defending your right to publish your liberal garbage doesn’t deserve to stay in business.

Perhaps the executives at AJC will grab a clue and show your despicable cartoonist the door.

Here’s hoping a few of America’s finest meet up with Mike at a bar when Iraq is through to have a little discussion. Now that I would pay to see.

By What Else Did The UN Miss?

June 22, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

By Think B-4 You Speak! June 22, 2006 09:24 AM Hey Mike - For you and everybody else that is going to bring up the “recently discovered” WMD.

If Blix and all the other “inspectors” missed 500 artillery shells filled with chemical agents, what else did they miss?

Bush was right!

By Vatican Lectures

June 22, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

WhatisthemissionofUSTROOPSinIRAQwhatisthemissionofUSTROOPSinIRAQwhatisthemissionofUSTROOPSinIRAQwhatisthemissionwhatisthemissionwhatisthemissionwhatisthemission.

I ASKED WHAT THE MISSION IS OF US TROOPS IN IRAQ??

Educate me, MR. RIGHT. I promise that if you can enunciate a mission, I will support it.

By Seeking storage space

June 22, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

Think B-4 You Speak!-The US government would like to store these 500 sarin and nerve gas shells. Since you have information that they are harmless we will be delivering them to you this afternoon.

By Think B-4 You Speak!

June 22, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

@@ - Settling yourself down. I’m not in bed with anyone except my wife. I know the two soldiers were eventually killed - I read the news too.

“People like me”, huh? What kind of people would that be? People that disagree with you maybe, or is it people that think for themselves? And what reality did I creat

By Mike

June 22, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

Vatican Lectures, the mission of our troops in Iraq is to provide security for the Iraqi goverment while they stand up and can function. There were three Humvee’s at the checkpoint when it was initially ambushed. The other two went to persue the enemy. They made a mistake by leaving behind the third Humvee, but the point is your facts are incorrect.

By Vatican Lectures

June 22, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

NAPOLEON himself couldn’t come up with a viable military mission in the middle east.

WHAT IS THE MISSION OF US TROOPS IN IRAQ?

I swear that I will support ANY mission statement not arrived at with circular logic, lipsynched W speak, or RightSpin.

You will have a very powerful, and creative convert, Mr. Right, if you can define a mission for US troops in Iraq.

By Dennis

June 22, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

This cartoon is really twisted. What’s wrong with you Luckovich?

By Scott

June 22, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

REGARDING THOSE FOUND WMD’s

Fox News’ Jim Angle contacted the Defense Department who quickly disavowed Santorum and Hoekstra’s claims. A Defense Department official told Angle flatly that the munitions hyped by Santorum and Hoekstra are “not the WMD’s for which this country went to war.”

The Bush administration commissioned the Iraq Survey Group to determine whether in fact any WMD existed in Iraq. After a year and half of meticulously combing through the country, here’s what the administration’s own inspectors reported:

While a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered, ISG judges that Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991. There are no credible Indications that Baghdad resumed production of chemical munitions thereafter, a policy ISG attributes to Baghdad’s desire to see sanctions lifted, or rendered ineffectual, or its fear of force against it should WMD be discovered.

But, many of you would take the word of Santorum because he’s a Republican, and you are desperately trying to find any excuse for this atrocity of a war.

By OUR MISSION IN IRAQ

June 22, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

VATICAN SCREAMER,

THIS IS THE MISSION OF OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ

please repeat three times

By Think B-4 You Speak!

June 22, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

What Else - I’m not sure what else they missed to be honest. But I CAN tell you that it takes a he-ll of a lot more than 500 lbs. to threaten a country. He-ll, a 500 lb. bomb didn’t even kill Zarqawi right away. As a matter of fact, didn’t they drop two.

By Emma

June 22, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

You can judge the success of an editorial cartoon by how much outrage it inspires in the conventional thinkers, people who are handed their opinions broken down into manageable pieces and prechewed and predigested by the mouthpieces of power.

Good job, Mike!

(By the way, kids, liberals have been out of power since 1969. Don’t you think it’s about time to own up to your own messes?)

By Mack

June 22, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

George, let’s not be disingenous here - it’s pretty clear that Al-Ansar Islam headed up by Al-Zarqwari operated in Iraq before we went in, and would not have been able to do so without the tacit approval of Saddam Hussein.

Torture and mutilation of the enemy has always been an Al Qaeda hallmark; it’s pretty clear that there is not a cause and affect relationship between our use of stress interrogation and AQ’s propensity toward mutilation and torture as a psychological weapon. Think Somalia and the acts of AQ beheading cells in Chechnaya, both of which happened during the Clinton administration.

More importantly, I also think that the fact that the media, human rights organizations and individual human rights advocates such as yourself have not been loudly and vigorously condemning Al Qaeda atrocities in Iraq is a not-so-subtle form of racism. To accept their actions as reactionary and to suggest that such behavior is acceptable is to deny their responsibility for the atrocities, to deny their humanity and capacity to know barbarism from universally held standards of behavior.

To condone their behavior is ipso facto to imply that barbarism is part of the Arab culture, which is no different than saying that the welfare culture is simply part of the black culture, or that a lack of higher education is simply reflective of the charm of hispanic laid-back culture.

To fail to condemn atrocities committed by Arabs is part of the “cycle of violence”; terror is a tactic that is working for them, and they suffer no consequence for their actions, no bad press, no international condemnation. If world opinion turned against them and they were punished in the press as the Americans are for every alleged infraction, terror as a tactic would be far less attractive, as public opinion is the oxygen the “insurgents” breathe.

By Kapow!

June 22, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

Wow. those “WMD’s really do constitiute an American threat! We’re lucky Saddam didn’t personally throw them at our country.

By Scott

June 22, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

“This cartoon is really twisted.”

No, war is twisted. This cartoon is just telling the truth.

By Think B-4 You Speak!

June 22, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

Seeking storage space - I see somebody else here is stuck inside a little box. I’d be glad to take on 500 lbs. of Sarin gas, so send it on over. I can just call some HazMat buddies who have the same MOPP gear (those funny suits and gas mask for you non-law enforcement or military folks) that the military uses.

I never said it wasn’t harmless, I said it would pose a huge threat to our military - especially such a small stash.

By TS

June 22, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

And this after two soldiers were tortured (and mutilated and slaughtered). Those two soldiers experienced REAL TORTURE…not sleep deprivation, not kneeling in an uncomfortable position, not cold or hot temperatures, not a dog barking in their face…but REAL TORTURE, Mike Luckovich!!! MAYBE YOU SHOULD LEARN THE DIFFERENCE! YOU DISGUST ME! Those soldiers were fighting for your freedom too you idiot! Read up on the global Jihad and maybe a light will dawn in your little mind, or is it that you are just on the other side??? I hope the AJC has the good sense to never carry your trash again!

By w00t

June 22, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this

Someone post a link to this 500lbs of chemical weapons found in Iraq.

By finch

June 22, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

What a jac-k off. How can this abomination of a cartoon be our problem?

Where did I say it was YOUR problem?? Maybe you should get some English lessons along with that dictionary.

Look at the big picture, moron. This ‘toon sucks, but if the US weren’t in Iraq, fighting a useless war against enemies that weren’t there until the invasion, THESE MEN WOULDN’T BE DEAD.

You are such a pathetic whining loser. Go play with yourself. It’s what you do best.

By Richard Andrzeicik

June 22, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

Some of our ignorant soldiers made detainees put underwear on their heads or create a human pyramid. Terrorists poked out our soldiers eyes, castrated them, broke their arms then cut out their hearts.

Hardly a parallel, Mr. Luckovich and the rest of you morons at the Atlanta Journal-Prostitution

By Scott

June 22, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

“Bush was right!”

About what? His report and he himself admitted that WMD’s don’t exist.

Fox News’ Jim Angle contacted the Defense Department who quickly disavowed Santorum and Hoekstra’s claims. A Defense Department official told Angle flatly that the munitions hyped by Santorum and Hoekstra are “not the WMD’s for which this country went to war.”

The Bush administration commissioned the Iraq Survey Group to determine whether in fact any WMD existed in Iraq. After a year and half of meticulously combing through the country, here’s what the administration’s own inspectors reported:

While a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered, ISG judges that Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991. There are no credible Indications that Baghdad resumed production of chemical munitions thereafter, a policy ISG attributes to Baghdad’s desire to see sanctions lifted, or rendered ineffectual, or its fear of force against it should WMD be discovered.

But, you would rather take the word of a man who’s so far behind in the polls he’ll say anything to get re-elected. You’d beleive him over Bush’s Iraq Survey Group, Bush himself, the pre-war inspectors, and the State Department.

Go figure.

By @@

June 22, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

Now the liberals get to define WMD’s? So predictable.

ml, would you please throw your leg over TB-4YS under the covers. I can’t decide if he/she is wanton or just wantin’.

By TS

June 22, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

To Dennis…the mission is to fight the global Jihad you idiot! In case you hadn’t heard, Zarqawi, you remember him, right, heh….he fled Afghanistan when we went to fight Al-Queda there after the yattacked us on 9-11…remember that? Why not read up on the global jihad…just read the news about Southern Sudan, all throughout the middle east, Malaysia, Indonesia, (see what non-Muslims lives are like there and weep), Sub-saharan Africa, Chechnya, Kashmir….I think that will be enough to inform you.

By Scott

June 22, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

“Someone post a link to this 500lbs of chemical weapons found in Iraq.”

Don’t have a link, but here’s one showing a response from the Defense Department.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/21/dod-disavows-santorum

By 8:03, Moron

June 22, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

By w00t June 22, 2006 09:49 AM Someone post a link to this 500lbs of chemical weapons found in Iraq.

By Midori

June 22, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

What is going on here today?

Invasion of the Idiots?

By GodHatesTrash

June 22, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

Oh Mike - you done did it - the heathen rage today - thirsty for your blood, the spawn of lynchmobbers and slave rapers are beside themselves - in trailer parks all over the hills and molehills of Atlanta they gather, practicing their noose knots and drinkin’ ‘shine from Mason jars as they curse the Luckovich name…

The redneck and breathes lives for violence and revenge, the innocent blood of tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians is not nearly enough, they want yours, too, Mike.

There is much wailing and moaning today about these poor soldiers, some of it real, but bottomline we must face this - the redneck cared far more for his fear, his paranoia, gas for his SUV, and most important his insatiable spectator lust for blood vengeance than he ever did for the lives of these soldiers, or they wouldn’t have been in Iraq in the first place.

By Midori

June 22, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

There you have it, the cartoon says it all. According to the liberals, the United States is no better than Al Qaeda. Can it be made more plain to see?

now you’re catching on, Moron.

By Vatican Lectures

June 22, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this

Any military offensive campaign must have a real world, communicable strategic geo-political objective. Otherwise, we’d still be fighting those martians that didn’t land in 1936’s WAR OF THE WORLD’S radio broadcast that had all the redstaters fooled. (At this point (40 months) in WW2, the war in europe was already over).

To state that our army’s mission is to “withdraw when Iraq can govern, sustain, and defend itself” is not a military mission that any army in history could deploy for. It’s a political scientist’s wet dream and a nice civics lesson, but not a military mission for an army, because what you are doing is creating an evolving definition of what constitutes war, military action, offensive campaigns, and ultimately victory.

In other words, Iraq’s green zone bubble-boy government is merely the shadow of a tank battalion. It will disappear when the tank moves.

WHAT IS THE MISSION OF OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ??

By Scott

June 22, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this

“the mission is to fight the global Jihad you idiot!”

The mission was to fight Iraq(Saddam). Terrorism was an excuse. If you still don’t get this then I feel sorry for you.

By Getitright

June 22, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

WAY over the line, Mikey. Embarassing, low blow, cheap shot, aid & comfort to the enemy. Two questions. 1. How many terrorists have been killed and mutilated while in US custody? 2. How many US soldiers have been killed and mutilated after being kidnapped by the terrorists? Answers, 1. Zero 2.All of Them. Compare that in one of your precious little hate-filled, propaganda cartoons.

By Natalie

June 22, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

Let’s hope Luckovich is the first one on American soil to feel the rusty blade when the left’s buddies like Zwahiri saw Mikey’s little set of balls off and shove them down his throat.

I’ve found what goes around, comes around in time.

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June 22, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

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