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this is from andrew sullivan’s blog
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
A Question of Trust
20 Jun 2006 02:42 pm
I trusted this president after 9/11. How can anyone trust him if Ron Suskind’s account is true? From Bart Gellman’s review today:
One example out of many comes in Ron Suskind’s gripping narrative of what the White House has celebrated as one of the war’s major victories: the capture of Abu Zubaydah in Pakistan in March 2002. Described as al-Qaeda’s chief of operations even after U.S. and Pakistani forces kicked down his door in Faisalabad, the Saudi-born jihadist was the first al-Qaeda detainee to be shipped to a secret prison abroad. Suskind shatters the official story line here. article continued





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Comments
By RW-(the original)
June 20, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this
I trusted this president after 9/11. How can anyone trust him if Ron Suskind’s account is true?
Then again if it isn’t true never mind. Is there a reason ml is wasting our time with this when he could just reprint one of his torture toons?
OK that was harsh. It’s not a complete waste of time to find out that Ron Suskind is reading Bob Graham’s (D-FL) diary and blaming it on Zubaydah.
By Dusty
June 20, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this
Luckovich, please stick to cartooning.
You post a pile of junk from somebody’s book and you obviously believe every word of it. And you want us to READ it? Your cartoons are slanted liberalism in scribble but now you try to push another kind of liberal junk on us.
If you don’t mind, I prefer to draw my conclusions from American government information, not a piece of paid, book-raising propaganda.
By Jay not jay
June 20, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this
Once again, the ever present un-named sources involved.
By Hey, Did Anyone Tell Andrew Sullivan?
June 20, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this
That the liberals that hang out at cartoon boy’s blog like to call people they hate “fa-gs.”
I’m sure he’d love to hear that.
By GodHatesTrash
June 20, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this
@ Hey,
Maybe you should send some hugs Andrew’s way, you silly peeter poofur you!
You know, God hates redneck trash like you. It has nothing to do with your being gay (except when you involve your kids) - it has everything to do with your willful stupidity.
By buff
June 21, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this
Priceless
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/20/television.news.rather.ap/index.html
By Buy Danish
June 21, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this
Susskind wants us to believe that because Zubaydah is a schizophrenic nutcase that all the evidence against him should be discounted? Not so fast:
Middle East sources said Abu Zubaydah helped set up the terrorist cell in Jordan charged with carrying out the millennium plot to attack American and Israeli targets, and was in constant touch with Khader Abu-Hosher, a Palestinian recruiter with the cell.
The two men discussed the plot in a 1999 phone call, according to the Jordanian documents.
But Jordanian intelligence, already tipped to Abu-Hosher and 16 other members of his group, had been listening to his calls. They raided the group’s homes in a sweep on Nov. 30, 1999 where they found fake passports, manuals and maps of tourist targets in Jordan, including hotels and a site on the Jordan River where Jesus Christ was believed to have been baptized.
In September 2000, a military court sentenced Abu-Hosher to death. Abu Zubaydah, who was at large, was found guilty of conspiracy to carry out terror attacks in Jordan. He was sentenced in absentia to 15 years of hard labor.*
Note that I left out the part about the Cole bombing or anything that is sourced from the Bush Administration and have only cited the MIDDLE EAST SOURCES prior to 9/11.
More to come…
By Buy Danish
June 21, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this
More on Zubaydah/Zarqawi/Hussein - Was Zarqawi the Missing Link to Saddam?
Some highlights -
…Zubaydah “indicated that he heard that an important al Qaeda associate, Abu Mus’ab al-Zarqawi, and others had good relationships with Iraqi intelligence.”
Zubaydah’s testimony has since been further corroborated by a known al Qaeda ideologue, Dr. Muhammad al-Masari…
“Saddam funded al Qaeda operatives to move into Iraq with the proviso that they would not undermine his regime.”
Al-Masari claimed that Saddam’s regime actively aided Zarqawi and his men prior to the war and fully included them in his plans for a terrorist insurgency. He said Saddam “saw that Islam would be key to a cohesive resistance in the event of invasion.”…
Al-Masari also claimed that “Iraqi army commanders were ordered to become practicing Muslims and to adopt the language and spirit of the jihadis.”…
Just as Saddam ordered, many of Iraq’s senior military and intelligence personnel joined or aided Zarqawi’s jihad. Many of the more prominent supporters and members of Zarqawi’s al Qaeda branch, in fact, came from the upper echelon of Saddam’s regime…
…Hudayfa Azzam, who is the son of one of al Qaeda’s earliest and most influential leaders, Adullah Azzam, gave an interview with Agence France Presse in August 2004 in which he explained Saddam’s support for al Qaeda’s members as they relocated to Iraq:
“Saddam Hussein’s regime welcomed them with open arms,” Azzam explained, “and young al Qaeda members entered Iraq in large numbers, setting up an organization to confront the occupation.”…
Curiously, in all of the coverage of Zarqawi’s death there has been no mention of Abu Zubaydah’s, Muhammad al-Masri’s, or Hudayfa Azzam’s comments.
By getalife
June 21, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this
I believe in the future, there will be many more stories like this one that will show the complete and utter failure of this so called war on terror by this failed administration.
We know, there were no WMD’s. We know, they did not greet us with flowers. We know, there will be civil war. We know, these people do not want us on their land. We know some are profitting from the blood of our troops. Yet, there are some who still believe in this failed administration and call themselves patriotic.
Mr. Murtha knows and he is a true patriotic American.
By Bryan
June 21, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
Mike, I have a feeling from reading your cartoons every day that you do not trust the President. This link seems to support your view but does not provide any evidence supporting the writer’s claim. A little evidence and a lot less un-named sources would go a long way towards real journalism. Keep up the good work on the cartoons though.
By Mark D
June 22, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this
I wonder what would happen if Mike posted the same sort of unhinged and completely off base, cartoon, ludicrously decrying his own government, if he were living in an islamic nation……wait….he wouldn’t be allowed to do such in the first place.
Hmmm.
By Big Dawg
June 22, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this
I don’t know what disgust me more. Mike Luckovich’s cartoon or the fact that I paid my subscription for a year. You know, the ONLY reason I buy your paper is for the Sports and Comics. I guess I will have to give up that. I wish your paper didn’t have a monopoly on the Atlanta market. Its not your liberal slant, you have been doing that for years. But you seem to keep taking it to new levels. Comparing our country to Al-Qaida is somewhere I cannot accept. I see by your declining subscriber list that others are joining the exit parade. Good bye
By viktor
June 23, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this
Mike visits an Army hospital and is inspired to equate our soldiers to al qaida butchers. I heard they edited-out the bottom half of the now infamous “torture toon” that showed two American soldiers disemboweled with their genitalia stuffed in their mouths.
I wonder if it would be considered an act of civil disobedience if we all put 50 cents into an AJC newspaper box, removed them from the box and stuffed them into the nearest trash can?
By Bionic Blonde
June 23, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this
The unique thing about haters is that they keep on hating even when they have our government in a strangle hold (unable to provide for what the people of the country really need from their government). They just have to hate and keep on hating because it seems to make their sad, unfulfilled lives more bearable. They must hate gays, non-Christians, immigrants, progressives aka liberals, Christians that don’t follow in lockstep with their hate-filled spewing; really anyone that believes differently. Your America is not my America.
By Jim Scerra
June 23, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this
I think your newspaper is a joke. Its no wonder that your readership is in jeapordy. That cartoon yesterday by the America hater Mike Luckovich was evil and sick. If you actually think most American people agree that “torture” by Americans is similar to the REAL torture by the human debris of the Muslim terrorists you need to have your heads exaimened! I cannot believe that that cartoon was actually published. I hope this move pushes your newspaper out of favor with most of the citizens of Atlanta for along time to come. Until you recognize the fact that a majority of Georgia citizens do not agree or think like you liberal far left “journalists” .