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By George

June 21, 2006 08:02 AM | Link to this

Boy, ain’t it the truth! The press has turned into lapdogs for the Bush Administration.

By So What’s Today’s New Rule, AJC?

June 21, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

It just keeps getting better:

Last June, the Los Angeles Times reported how the ranking member on the defense appropriations subcommittee has a brother, Robert Murtha, whose lobbying firm represents 10 companies that received more than $20 million from last year’s defense spending bill. “Clients of the lobbying firm KSA Consulting — whose top officials also include former congressional aide Carmen V. Scialabba, who worked for Rep. Filthy Mouth Murtha as a congressional aide for 27 years — received a total of $20.8 million from the bill,” the L.A. Times reported.

In early 2004, according to Roll Call, Mr. Filthy Mouth Murtha “reportedly leaned on U.S. Navy officials to sign a contract to transfer the Hunters Point Shipyard to the city of San Francisco.”-Washington Times

Culture of what?

By So What’s Today’s New Rule, AJC?

June 21, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

Another Enron?

Welcome to Fannie Mae, the government-sponsored mortgage giant. As part of a scandal that’s been running nearly two years, Fannie Mae has “misstated earnings” to the tune of $.

To top it off, the Fannie Mae leadership was quite well-connected in D.C., especially to the Democratic Party. The Washington Post on May 23 made this all clear in black and white.- Washington Times

By So What’s Today’s New Rule, AJC?

June 21, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

Pete Dupont didn’t get rich by being stupid:

So expanding America’s energy production is the obvious priority. Common sense would suggest that we should begin tapping into the estimated 102 billion barrels of oil sitting under America’s Outer Continental Shelf and in Alaska. That domestic supply could replace America’s importation of foreign oil for some 25 years.-Wall Street Journal

Congress has also limited the capacity to refine our oil. After Hurricane Katrina, a bill to streamline the refinery permitting process—we have not built a new one since 1976—and encourage the building of refineries on closed military bases was blocked in the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee when every Democratic senator, along with Jim Jeffords (I., Vt) and Lincoln Chaffee (R., R.I.) voted “no.” (131 words! I counted!)

As you put 3 bucks a gallon in your tank, now you know who to thank.

By So What’s Today’s New Rule, AJC?

June 21, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

Here’s Pat Buchanan, noted Bush critic, who quite a few of you have been quoting lately:

This sentence restated the Natural Law teaching of Thomas Aquinas. Homosexuality is against nature, contra naturam. It also said what was, by then, obvious to all. Acts that cannot be described in this publication were transmitting a dread and deadly disease that was killing homosexuals in the hundreds, and would soon kill them in the scores of thousands.- Human Events

  • What does all of this tell us? Our society is being marinated in lies — the lie that homosexuality is a natural, normal and healthy lifestyle; the lie that those who think otherwise are all hateful bigots; the lie that the diseases that afflict the homosexual community are the fault of an uncaring society.*

By I Report, They Whine

June 21, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this

Yet there is no question the middle class would still be subject to the estate tax without the efforts of those seeking its repeal. Liberal supporters of the estate tax who now say they favor a big increase in the exemption would never hold this position unless political support for repeal was so strong they have no other choice.

When a tax is arbitrary and falls on mainly on the ignorant while the sophisticated are exempted, this is usually an excellent argument for getting rid of that tax. In my opinion, estate tax supporters have a lot of nerve turning a fatal flaw in that tax into a prime virtue.-Bruce Bartlett, Washington Times

By The AJC tolerates Shills

June 21, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this

I SEE THE NETVOCATE HAS CHANGED IT”S NAME AGAIN.

By I Report, They Whine

June 21, 2006 08:08 AM | Link to this

So tell me, General Seeker, what’s the difference?:

House tactic endangers illegals bill Carl Hulse - New York Times Wednesday, June 21, 2006

Democrats call Zarqawi killing a stunt By Amy F* THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Why aren’t you and the Puffington Host whining like great big a-ss babies about the front page of the Atlanta Urinal, huh, huh?

What’s up wit dat?

Not the infamous double standard, is it?

By George

June 21, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

Andy, I think the rule is the same as the previous rule. It says right at the top of the page. ‘What’s on this page →

The entry titled “Impressing the press,” and any of the comments about it.’

And your posts so far have nothing to do with the Impressing the Press.

So what do you have to say about the toon of today.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this

George,

It’s not like the top of the page is graced with a baseball suicide, now is it? No today we have a silly notion that the man the press calls the dumbest on the planet has fooled them in excess of 4,536 times, which would seem to make any story from any faction of the media fair game without you whiny liberals complaining about the sanctity of the scribblers cartoon.

By Andy Passes Judgement On the Toon

June 21, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this

Just for you, George: It’s bullsh-it.

The Atlanta Urinal really shouldn’t be making bad light of fools, after all, without them we wouldn’t have an AJC.

By the way, we daily talk about WMD in Iraq, regardless of what the cartoon is, so now today, you are primed and ready to stick to the single subject.

Is that all you can handle at once?

You got your talking points on this ready?

So do I!

Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.- PBS

That’s the president speaking on the very same subject, go figure. President Clinton, that is.

Fools.

By buff

June 21, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this

Hmmm, Suckovich continues his biased coverage and distorted rants, and the Al Jazeerah Chronicle, AJC, keeps losing readers, hmmmm, good business strategy. Oh, sheeaat, they are leftists

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this

This is a cartoon depicting a fool who still subscribes to the AJC. On the front page of the fool’s newspaper, there is a Luckovich cartoon of the president (big ears) with a headline “photo op” instead of “historic Iraqi visit”.

This is the kind of support the AJC/Luckovich gives our American president, our troops who are fighting there and our country’s efforts.

By Wrap It Up, This One's Dead

June 21, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

8:24 was a George Tenet type “slam dunk.”

Next cartoon?

By w00t

June 21, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

Why is it that all repubs can do is call people names, and post links to other “slanted” news sites? Do any of you have a thought of your own? The repetitive posting of news stories every morning is getting old. If you guys don’t like mike or the AJC, then why in the hell do you post here?

By Liberal Texas Democrat

June 21, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

19 US Senators, all Republicans, voted today to in favor of giving amnesty to terrorists who kill US soldiers in Iraq. You can find their names below - the “nay” votes are the ones who support amnesty for terrorists. Because in the long run we’ll have to get on with the business of business in Iraq, truth and hapless GI’s be d*mmed. I wish I could be around for the rest of the day to watch ya’ll nail Jel-lo to a tree explaining this one away, but I’ve got chores.

By I Report, They Whine

June 21, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

w00t: When you shut your anti American mouths, I will move on.

Till then, why don’t you just enjoy it?

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this

There is a grain of truth to this cartoon I guess. As time has progressed from the pre Iraq war time frame to the present the antique media has become so blindly anti-Bush that even ml has taken off the “media” tag. If he was really the “moderate” he calls himself, ml would have a KosKiddie convention tag hanging from the guy.

wOOt,

So your idea of free and open discussion is to limit yourself strictly to what you agree with? Brilliant!

By w00t

June 21, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this

Earth surrounded by giant fizzy bubbles

THEY’RE THE WAEPONS OF TERRORIST! RAISE THE ALERT L3V3L!!1111one

By "Fair Use" Standard Violations!!!!

June 21, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

By w00t June 21, 2006 08:57 AM I CAN POST NEWS STORIES TOO!

By Liberal Texas Democrat June 21, 2006 08:59 AM

Censor them! Censor them!

By w00t

June 21, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

wait wait, Andy comes at me, saying “When you shut your anti American mouths, I will move on.” Then RW says: “So your idea of free and open discussion is to limit yourself strictly to what you agree with? Brilliant!”

You’re right, that is Brilliant. ;)

Carry on.

By finch

June 21, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

Suck,

Thre is a huge difference between a “tactic” and a “stunt”. HUGE.

Maybe you should get a dictionary.

Thanks for pointing out that the Moonie (Washington) Times misleading “stunt” headline is still there. It shows just how concerned it’s editors are about accuracy. (sarc)

Thanks too for attributing your links to the Moonie Times, the lousiest excuse for a newspaper in America.

The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

By General Seeker Lashes Out In Desperation

June 21, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

Thre is a huge difference between a “tactic” and a “stunt”. HUGE.

I believe it’s time for me and the Washington Times to set out the terms of your surrender, General Seeker.

You are starting to get very lame with your argument and this fight is no longer fair.

If you wish for annihilation then continue to respond as weakly as you have been. I will administer the coup de grace with a certain amount of enjoyment.

So the House Of Representatives disagreeing with the Senate’s version of the immigration bill is a “tactic?”

You ever think about working for Disney?

By SSDD

June 21, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

RW and Andy-

this is what I can assimilate from your posts: w00t has one choice really… according to your way of thinking… w00t’s choice is to be PRO-American and agree with the current administration or STFU? what part of that is in the 1st amendment again? I’m having a tough time recalling that bit.

A-holes. that’s the ONE choice RW and Andy? you two are pathetic excuses for a “True American”.

A real American has the ability and the RIGHT to disagree with the current administration. You know the j#ck-off sessions you had daily about the Clinton administration about 6+ years ago??? Remember that? Trust me, we ALL remember your blathering then. We can recall it now fondly.

“We’re in a time of WAR!” Blah blah blahbidy BLAH.

Whose choice was THIS clusterf#ck again? I’m drawing a blank… OH WAIT. NM. I remember. Gee-golly-dubya and his war machine, I mean repube party of sycophants.

PATHETIC.

See all that <— right there. That was my 1st amendment right to say “you and YOUR administration are a bunch of morons.”

Blather on, boys. Blather on.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

finch,

Read this headline and then find the fuming Democrats.

Those dang Moonies have gotten their hands on another Times!

By Oh, Spare Us

June 21, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this

SSDD- Last time I looked, I was not the one removing posts from this blog. That’s your censorship, plain and simple, and I failed to hear your outrage over this.

What I said, if you had the brains to think it through, when you stop undermining the United States and giving aid and comfort to the enemy with your filthy maggot infested mouth, I would move along. I never said that you had to STFU, I said that I would no longer have the reason to respond to you.

Moron.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

SSDD,

If you had even the tiniest bit of reading comprehension skills you would see that I advised wOOt to talk to people on all sides of the issues.

By @@

June 21, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this

RW/Andy:

Has ml’s blog been running six+ years? Was SSDD reading your posts here six+ years ago?

I didn’t know that.

Anyway, wOOt’s 9:02 comment on the cartoon was “spot on”. The MSM is sending up those “fizzy gas bubbles” into our atmosphere. Weapons of the terrorists or attack on our environment?

“Beam wOOt up Scotty.” He/she is in search of the relevant truth.

By Eric

June 21, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

You right wingers are total idiots. Turn your common sense into gasoline and it wouldn’t be enough to crank a p.ss ants lawnmower.

By SSDD

June 21, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

Andy, you sack, that made NO SENSE!

WTF are you saying??? I support the enemy because I think this “war” is a quagmire? HUH? That is not an argument! “Either you’re WITH US or you’re AGAINST us!!11” I left the 3rd grade playground a while ago. Sh#t don’t work like that past age 8, boy.

And BTW, you aren’t SAYING a GD thing! C&P does not an opinion make, buck-o. Its a COPY and PASTE. When you shake your head back and forth and hear a rattle-rattle noise… THATS YOUR BRAIN! Attempt to utilize it to its FULLEST potential… uh, NM. You don’t seem to have that ability.

What the hey. Give it a shot anyway. Fire up them ol’ neurons. Go one full day with out C&P-ing something and give an original opinion of your own. Have discourse with someone without citing someone else’s words and make a POINT, besides the one @ the top of your head. I bet you couldn’t make a full day without your usual plagiarism of ideas.

PA

THET

IC

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

@@,

When confronted by truth moonbats go into an odd kind of rage that has them sputtering things about years and even decades past. No one knows why, because as you pointed out they will state impossibilities as absolute fact. It can also manifest itself in endless babbling about a news sources owner with absolutely no proof of how the two interrelate. Other times they just sound like Eric.

By SSDD

June 21, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

By @@ June 21, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this RW/Andy: Has ml’s blog been running six+ years? Was SSDD reading your posts here six+ years ago? I didn’t know that.

Oh. Oh WOW. Yes, that’s what I meant. 6+ years ago… we were all here. Moron. Remove head from sphincter, THEN type.

How many times have repubes on here given some form of a b#tchfest about the Clinton years? How AWFUL they were? Anyone? Anyone?

Where’s that old saying you GOPeers have about the hard times of a repube era are due to the policies that began in a dem era and then took 4+/- years to incorporate? I always love to hear that one. SO. We’re paying exorbitant prices at the pump NOW cuz Clinton p** off the oil-producing companies 8 YEARS ago? And we needed to add a digit to the deficit cuz of his policies THEN affecting us NOW?

I should be writing this down. I NEED A PENCIL!!!

By Elementary, Dr. Watson

June 21, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

SSDD: What country do you live in, junior?

Do you think it’s normal for someone to hope for the success of their country’s enemies?

Look, your issues are not with me. They are with your parents and your teachers and, believe me, you have some major gripes with them.

They scre-wed you up.

By @@

June 21, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

WHY ARE ALL THE LIBERALS SCREAMING ON HERE TODAY?

My ears…my ears…No wait, that would be my eyes…my eyes!!!!!

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

Is anyone out there looking to hire an out-of-work former telemarketer with what I consider awesome readng comprehension skills? If so, please let me know because I got canned from my last telemarketing position for spending too much time blogging. How unAmerican is that?

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

Another great one, Lucko — today’s cartoon will be posted on my bulletin board today!

To quote our president: “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me… shame…. we won’t get fooled again!”

By Yoda?

June 21, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this

“C&P does not an opinion make”

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

SSDD,

Forgive @@ for her lack of reading comprehension skills and inability to glean not-so subtleties. She’s a special ed teacher (Andy’s special ed teacher), so you really have to spell things out for her. Most of her time is spent trying to get Andy to cease urinating in his pants and throwing tantrums.

By @@

June 21, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

Please allow me to change my 9:54 to read:

WHY ARE ALL THE RADICAL EXTREME-LEFT LIBERALS SCREAMING ON HERE TODAY?

My ears…my ears…No wait, that would be my eyes…my eyes!!!!!

We do have some reasonable liberals who are appreciated for their posts here and I wanted to acknowledge them.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

Andy, unlike you, SSDD wasn’t beat by his parents and teachers. He was allowed to think for his-self. Maybe its something you should try.

“Hope for the success of their country’s enemies” is that the only excuse that you have? Any time someone has an opinion about the current administration, you take it as support for the “enemy”. The only enemy is you.

You’re a sad and shallow little man with no ideas of his own. You need to go out and find yourself. Stop being a lemming.

By RW-(the original, original)

June 21, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

@@,

I should have added that whichever way they start, their rage soon turns to wanking.

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

Eric,

Actually, we’re trying to turn parts of Alaska into SOURCES of gasoline as Andy’s 8:05^^ indicates. The total idiots are people like you who lack all common sense and put our national security at risk in the process:

So expanding America’s energy production is the obvious priority. Common sense would suggest that we should begin tapping into the estimated 102 billion barrels of oil sitting under America’s Outer Continental Shelf and in Alaska. That domestic supply could replace America’s importation of foreign oil for some 25 years.

But our country’s political establishment, from Congress to the press and the presidency, has worked for a quarter century to prevent increases in our energy supply.

The enviro-wacko-marxists have everyone shaking in their shoes as they implicitly threaten to unleash one of their deadliest accusations against anyone who would dare defy their own “special interests”… POLLUTER!!

By regulator

June 21, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

Great cartoon, this so aptly explains Republicans and Conservatives. Their byline, tell me what do, I’ll always obey.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

I’ve got an idea, STOP DEVELOPING GAS GUZZLING VEHICALS and we will not need ANWR. We have the technology for new forms of transportation, but do you think Big oil wants car manufactures to do that? I don’t think so.

By Look Who's Wanking, w00t

June 21, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this

There’s your answer on who has their own ideas.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

AP: Iraqi troops killed 2 U.S. soldiers

Two California soldiers shot to death in Iraq were murdered by Iraqi civil-defense officers patrolling with them, military investigators have found.

The deaths of Army Spc. Patrick R. McCaffrey Sr. and 1st Lt. Andre D. Tyson were originally attributed to an ambush during a patrol near Balad, Iraq, on June 22, 2004.

But the Army’s Criminal Investigation Command found that one or more of the Iraqis attached to the American soldiers on patrol fired at them, a military official said Tuesday.

It sure is convenient for the Iraqi troops to kill our American soldiers now that they are on our side, isn’t it ! ? ! Add the NEW Iraqi troops to the list of groups that American soldiers are fighting in Bush’s IRAQI CIVIL WAR. What the hell, 2 soldiers here, 2 soldiers there, it’s all a matter of ACCEPTABLE LOSS, right? It is if you’re a Republican ! ! !

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

He was allowed to think for his-self. Maybe its something you should try.

wOOt,

Can you think for YO!SELF? or do you get your ideas from MTV dissing contests? How very intellectually advanced of you. Ha!

If you actually read what was posted, You’d notice that Andy includes his own insightful commentary with many of his very interesting, informative and entertaining posts.

Thanks Andy!

Finch Seeker et al,

Your tactic to try to relentlessly hound Andy is a very childish stunt.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

The enviro-wacko-marxists have everyone shaking in their shoes as they implicitly threaten to unleash one of their deadliest accusations against anyone who would dare defy their own “special interests”… POLLUTER!!

You have to ask yourself, do you want your children, or your grandchildren living in a world that is over run with polution and global warming, or are you to selfish and only able to think of yourself?

Is it always about the short term with you guys? Wow, going to war in iraq will be a great idea, what do you think will happen after the war? oh, it will be a happy place where everyone will get along and sing “Kumbaya” HA, yeah right.

Maybe you guys need to play Gulf War 2

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

WooT,

YO! Grow up.

All,

Since this cartoon is about the Iraq War, here is my on topic contribution for the day:

Just as Saddam ordered, many of Iraq’s senior military and intelligence personnel joined or aided Zarqawi’s jihad. Many of the more prominent supporters and members of Zarqawi’s al Qaeda branch, in fact, came from the upper echelon of Saddam’s regime…

These Baathists, and others, have spilled much blood in Zarqawi’s name. Their attacks were among “Zarqawi’s” most successful, including an assault on the Abu Ghraib prison and the first attack on the U.N.’s headquarters. The latter strike was among al Qaeda’s earliest, killing Sergio de Mello, the U.N.’s special representative in Baghdad, in August 2003.

Explain this away^^ML.

By Great toon ???

June 21, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this

How many of you “great toon ml” parrots would be laughing if the headline in box 1 was “Nagin fails to evacuate New Orleans” and box 2 said “Nagin reelected”

By @@

June 21, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

wOOt:

You may want to join the “Partnership from Hell,” these two guys are all for your restriction of gas guzzlers no matter what pain and suffering it may inflict on working Americans. Send your resume quick, times awastin’.

As a conservative, I’m particularly fond of the last sentence.

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

CBIT,

After you stop shouting, try reading my 10:24 post for an explanation as to why this is happening.

Link Saddam Hussein directly to Zarqawi to Al Qaeda to Baathists. Oops you can’t do that can you because that would blow the Bush Lied argument.

Okay, fine. Stay stupid and raving like a lunatic. Free will and all that.

Have a nice day everyone! Or be miserable -your choice.

By SSDD

June 21, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

Psst… Hey, BD. Guess what??! Everyday there are 1 or 2 or so OTHER people that see Mike L’s cartoon and have no interest in adding to Andy’s C&P brigade. Today I thought “hmm… maybe these repubes need to hear yet ANOTHER dissenting opinion.”

Its pa-thet-ic ya’ll think there’s but one or two out there that think that YOU and YOUR ILK are blathering morons. There’s quite a few. I check Mike’s cartoon out everyday and think “WOW andy’s a moron. RW needs to crawl up someone else’s arse and Midori can hold her own against you two pukes”, along with whatever other pathetic excuses for repubes slither around in here acting like every dem has it out for you. A 30% DISapproval rating speaks for itself EH? There are a large number of us, albeit democrat or otherwise, that cannot WAIT for this administration to fade away. Just as I’d like to see from the likes of you and yours.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

They can’t spin the stories fast enough to keep up with this firey plung

It’s because of the media huh? Damn that mass media! DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!!!1

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this

wOOt,

Before I go -

I want my child to grow up in the healthiest, most prosperous, and freeist country on Earth. That means a country that is not run and overrun by Politically-Correct Socialists like you who would prefer that we live like a bunch of Luddites in huts somewhere raising goats.

In addition to the countless scientists who dispute your global gas bag theories, I’m going to follow the advice of wise and educated men like Pete Dupont, not the demands of smug liberal fascists like you.

P.S.

My carbon footprint is a million times smaller than Al Gore’s - so suck on that infobyte.

By @@

June 21, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this

WHAT’S A “FIREY PLUNG?”

By Daniel

June 21, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

“Hello, Hello, can you hear me? Kilo Company got hit hard over in Haditha. A man is down. Repeat, A man is down. We need help right away! Get Lt. Bush on the wire and get his men in there ASAP!” “Roger that” (Pause) “Sir, sir, no one can find Lt. Bush. Someone else will have to go in his place”

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

@@,

I guess you popped their Cherys! Do you believe the hypocrisy of these pathetic wankers?

SSDD,

I have no idea what you are shouting about and make it a habit not to read incoherent IgnoRANTS.

P.S.

Do you realize that the acronym of your name resembles a veneral disease? How perfectly fitting.

Gotta run…

By w00t

June 21, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

You may want to join the “Partnership from Hell,” these two guys are all for your restriction of gas guzzlers no matter what pain and suffering it may inflict on working Americans. Send your resume quick, times awastin’

So, mom’s need HUGE SUV’s that get 10-17mpg that do not even have jobs? Do they really need to drive alone in a vehicle that holds 7+ people? Do we really need SUV’s were a driver is more likely to be killed than riding in a car? Do normal people need SUV’s?

SUV’s aren’t required to meet the same gas mileage and pollution standards:

The recent popularity of SUVs is one reason the U.S. population consumes more gasoline than in previous years. SUVs are as a class much less fuel efficient than comparable passenger vehicles. The main reason is that SUVs are classified by the U.S. government as light trucks, and thus are subject to the less strict light truck standard under the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) regulations. The CAFE requirement for light trucks is an average of 20.7 mpg (US), versus 27.5 mpg (US) for passenger cars (11.4 and 8.6 L/100 km, respectively).

Don’t you think thats a little unfair? Why do we need SUV’s that are driven on the same roads as cars, yet dont meet the same gas and pollution standards?

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

Lucko— you know your editorials are hitting the mark each day, when you have the right-wing trolls coming here day after day to post their misplaced venom. So sad that they feel the need to attack Americans here on the blog, simply because we don’t share their narrow view world…

By Want America To Become France?

June 21, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

By w00t June 21, 2006 10:52 AM So, mom’s need HUGE SUV’s that get 10-17mpg that do not even have jobs? Do they really need to drive alone in a vehicle that holds 7+ people? Do we really need SUV’s were a driver is more likely to be killed than riding in a car? Do normal people need SUV’s?

Then elect these idiot democrats.

By SSDD

June 21, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

Did you mean venerable? Or venereal?

(SNORT) hehehehe heee

venereal disease. That’s FUNNIE. That brings to mind a douchebag. HA HAHAHAHAHA!

“DB”. how apropos.

That’s the best you’ve got BD? “I don’t read incoherent rants”?

WOW. I don’t even need to formulate an argument. There’s none to be had here. “You’re a a-a- poopyhead! YEAH!”

By @@

June 21, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

wOOt:

You can buy and drive a Chery and carpool with George Soros in the front passenger seat if you want. You see, I don’t want to restrict your choices like you want to restrict everyone elses.

Are you planning on ^^^ constructing additional roads specifically for use by SUV’s. That doesn’t sound very cost efficient.

Patience wOOt, patience….domestic fuel sources as well as alternative fuel sources are in our future.

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

The educational level really dropped today with the salivating liberals.

Some can’t speak well, some can’t spell, some can’t express themselves without cursing, some resort to recognizable wanking. Others think that freedom of speech is the best way to let the enemy know that extreme American liberals support them, the enemy.

Anything goes to GET President Bush and a Republican administration out of office. The country and the troops can”go to hell in a handbasket” as far as these “freedom lovers” are concerned.

Congrats to you extremists. You are lower than Lake Lanier with twice as much muck. No input and a sorry measuring stick. If we are lucky, you will go dry completely.

By SSDD Is Seeker?

June 21, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

My money says he is.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

You guys cant answer a direct question if you tried.

WHY do normal white collar people need SUV’s? WHY? Tell me. Do they feel the urge to spend $100+ per tank? Maybe they bought it because they were lied to.

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

SSDD,

That would be venereal disease, Bozo. If only your humor was as infectious as the disease.

By Liberal "Intelligence"

June 21, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

This is the equivilant of soiling your diaper when you don’t get your way:

By RW-(the originalNot)June 21, 2006 10:00 AM SSDD, Forgive @@ for her lack of reading comprehension skills and inability to glean not-so subtleties. She’s a special ed teacher (Andy’s special ed teacher), so you really have to spell things out for her. Most of her time is spent trying to get Andy to cease urinating in his pants and throwing tantrums.

Which is about in line with your typical liberal, throwing their feces around like monkeys would.

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

Speaking of narrow world views, were you born smug, or did years in the Leftist hierarchy fill you with sanctimony?

P.S.

Why aren’t you in Vienna with Mother Sheehan, carrying your favorite “Bush is the #1 terrorist” sign.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

Some can’t speak well, some can’t spell, some can’t express themselves without cursing, some resort to recognizable wanking. Others think that freedom of speech is the best way to let the enemy know that extreme American liberals support them, the enemy.

Ok, lets revoke freedom of speech then. Seems like the solution to those that have had their feeling hurt by people that disapprove of Bush.

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Poor Dusty is reduced to sputtering in the wind about “them evul libuhruls”. There there, Dusty, wipe that dribble off your chin and perk up. I’m sure it’s a nice day outside. Go enjoy it. Leave discussions of complicated things like politics to grown-ups.

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Congrats to you extremists. You are lower than Lake Lanier with twice as much muck. No input and a sorry measuring stick. If we are lucky, you will go dry completely.

Some more of the Repugs’ idea of “winning hearts and minds” here on the blog. Such a lovable bunch, huh?

“If we are lucky”, some of you would love America enough to not just fall in line with your party ideology, even when your leaders are taking the country over a cliff. Keeping our leaders accountable for their decisions is the best way to love America. When they make major mistakes over and over again, they should no longer be supported for those decisions.

I believe that’s what loving America is really all about: not going over that cliff with wrong-headed elected officials, no matter which party I may vote for.

By SSDD

June 21, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

Yeah BD. You got me. Spelt it wronged. As did urself. In ur first post. Speeling poylise has arrivde. VENEREAL. Lets just agree to call it “VD” okee-a-doka-lee?

BTW. “SSDD” stand for ____ ??? Same sh$t, different day.

If you knew that, then you get the reference.

And BTW. “Assumption is the MOTHER of all f#uckups.” Learn it. Live it.

I’m a female. You blowhards.

I think the current administration is a clusterf#ck, but you already knew that.

I think the illegal immigration issue is a smokescreen to detract from the war as is the majority of this administration’s “hot topic issues”. Do I think its a problem and an issue that needs to be addressed? YEAH. I DO. I think it sucks that I pay a couple thou a year to be able to go to the E.R. when I need to and have to wait 3 hours while a group of illegals gets their monthly checkup.

I think that global warming DOES exist and that you repubes will do anything in your power to KILL this planet. You wouldn’t give two sh#ts if all of your kids and grandkids contracted skin cancer because you have no soul to begin with. It’s a fact of life I have come to terms with. I think a gas-guzzler is an obscene effect of Americans and their abuse of this planet. Why should you give a sh#t though? You wont be around while your kids are dying, right?

I think that the “gay marriage issue” is utter B.S. If two consenting ADULTS want to marry why is it ANY of your business? “They’ll up my healthcare! I’ll have to pay more taxes for them! They’re raping children and animals!!!” WHAT?! The only evidence I ever see of such brutality comes from the rap sheet of a repube. “NAMBLA is out to become a political party!!!” They’re degenerate f#cks and no self-respecting human being gives them any credence. Only sickos like YOU have that inane ability to give so much power to groups like that. Pathetic slimeballs the lot of you. Why don’t you spend more of your “internet free time” finding these scourges of human existence and bringing them to justice and less time telling me where King Dubya’s clothes are?

Any other issues you wanna bring up that you are CONVINCED I’m for???

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Woot or whatever you are,

Nobody suggested revoking freedom of speech, except YOU.

You don’t hurt my feelings with your incoherent hate for the president. YOU HURT OUR COUNTRY. That is my objection.

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Yes, Churchill did know the score. Which is why he fought the Nazis. As opposed to, say, invading Papua New Guinea, because, hey, a German official may or may not have visited it once, and no one likes Papua New Guinea to begin with.

Churchill was a realist. There have been many terms used to describe the Cheney administration, but the term “realist” has been used about as often as the term “flaky” has been used to describe water.

By @@

June 21, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

By w00t

June 21, 2006 11:31 AM

Ok, lets revoke freedom of speech then. Seems like the solution to those that have had their feeling hurt by people that disapprove of Bush.

So telling people what they should drive is not revoking their freedom. Let’s hang onto the free speech and keep government and “Socialist George Soros” or “Not So Curious George S” (to me anyway) out of our business.

France is ————-> that way.

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

Dusty sounds just like those people who said “You know, disliking Stalin hurts our fatherland.” Thankfully for us, she does not yet have the option of reporting that to the KGB and making those who dislike Bush disappear into the night.

And people wonder why I’m a Democrat…

By w00t

June 21, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this

Dusty, with all your wisdom, how do I “hurt the country”?

By Didn't rushncap say Dusty wasn't worth his time?

June 21, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Why yes, it was only yesterday.

By We Found You, Didn't We?

June 21, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

By SSDD June 21, 2006 11:49 AM Why don’t you spend more of your “internet free time” finding these scourges of human existence and bringing them to justice and less time telling me where King Dubya’s clothes are?

By Why rushncap is a Democrat

June 21, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Because dissenters are treated just peachy by the Clintonistas

By Thanks For Clarifying That

June 21, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

By rushncrap June 21, 2006 11:58 AM And people wonder why I’m a Democrat…

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

Woot,

You hurt your country and you endanger the troops with your criticism of OUR PRESIDENT. Terrorists are probably reading this blog and will now go out and set up some IED’s because they know there are Americans who disagree with OUR PRESIDENT. You should be ashamed of yourself for putting our troops in harms way and for destroying AMERICA.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

@@, WHY DO PEOPLE NEED SUV’S? Can anyone answer me that?

Could it be that, its all that American manufactures no how to build and over charge for? Look over in Europe, do they have SUV’s and gas guzzlers on every street and corner. No. They build fuel-efficient cars that are practical. Could it be that oil companies love us to drive them so they can make even more record profits? Did any of you guys know that Honda builds an Accord over in Europe with a 2.2L Diesel engine that gets 51mpg and lower emissions than the hybrid Accord here in the states? A Diesel that gets LOWER emissions than a HYBRID! Why can’t we have that here? Oh, because according to the American market, we don’t want them. We would much rather waste gas, spew pollutants into the air and drill into ANWR to our shallow way of life. You do not see America car manufactures even ATTEMPING to do something like that. Wouldn’t you buy a car that got nearly 900 miles per tank of gas, or are you just to good for that cause its not the American way.

By SSDD

June 21, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

UH. Yeah, Good one, Beavis. HUH-HUUUUUUUH-uh

Yes, you have “found me”. You got me!

Way to go Clouseau.

That’s the pathetic nature of you all. I ask for something insightful. I get useless drivel.

By Scooter

June 21, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

ml must be scribbling about the editors ability to fool people, by publicizing excerpts of transcripts and speeches that will lead the leadable into forgetting the twelve years of deceit and trickery, so we could continue to trust the corrupted UN?

Uncovered Duelfer Report excerpt: Saddam’s primary goal from 1991 to 2003 was to have UN sanctions lifted, while maintaining the security of the Regime. He sought to balance the need to cooperate with UN inspections—to gain support for lifting sanctions—with his intention to preserve Iraq’s intellectual capital for WMD with a minimum of foreign intrusiveness and loss of face.

The introduction of the Oil-For-Food program (OFF) in late 1996 was a key turning point for the Regime. OFF rescued Baghdad’s economy from a terminal decline created by sanctions. The Regime quickly came to see that OFF could be corrupted to acquire foreign exchange both to further undermine sanctions and to provide the means to enhance dual-use infrastructure and potential WMD-related development.

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

You hurt your country and you endanger the troops with your criticism of OUR PRESIDENT.

Classic Stalinism right there!

Good grief.

By finch

June 21, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Take off the rose tinted glasses and see what a thriving, free city Baghdad isn’t:

“But just hours before American television screens began to be filled with upbeat clips of President Bush’s surprise trip to Baghdad last week, the United States Embassy there cabled back a far grimmer picture of the mounting difficulties faced by its Iraqi employees.

“The cable, reprinted by The Washington Post, told of embassy employees running a daily gantlet of religious dress-code enforcers and harassment by militia-style security guards — even at checkpoints surrounding the fortified Green Zone, where the embassy is located. When the Iraqi employees return to their homes, they face sweltering neighborhoods without regular electric power, daylong gasoline lines, and families torn by religious and ethnic tensions and mounting fears for the future.”

Here’s the original Washington Post story, with a pdf link to Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad’s cable. Welcome to Baghdad.

BD,

I’m not harassing anyone! I’m just pointing out what a filthy rag the Moonie Times is. Almost as filthy as it’s non-US citizen, felonious, thinks-he’s-the-Messiah owner.

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this

SSDD IgnoRANTER,

I don’t believe there was any discussion about your sex (or lack thereof), so you’ll have to specifically cite the incorrect “assumption” that I made.

That’s as far as I got in your incoherent rant which appears to be taking off in the direction of gay marriage blah blah blah.

You are demonstrating that the proverbial “angry white male” has been eclipsed by the “angry unhappy female”.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

wOOt,

@@, WHY DO PEOPLE NEED SUV’S? Can anyone answer me that?

Are you asking @@ or are you asking anyone? I’ll go with anyone and say that people have the right to choose.

The rest of your argument is nonsensical. The oil companies are supposedly raking in record profits out of pure greed, while the automakers are bleeding red ink. You might be right that lots of people would buy the vehicle that gets 900 miles to a tank, but it’s downright foolishness to say the automakers won’t offer them because “Big Oil” won’t let them.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

Oh hell! The Islamo Toon Brigade is attacking. Lucko’s blog is their main point of entry. Help, help, the IEDs are closing I-285 and OUR President hasn’t installed our neighborhood detention center yet. Al Queda is riding the hillarycopters to the war in our suburbs! It’s the end of the world as we know it (and I feel fine)!

Message to Liberals: Every chance you get, STFU ! ! !

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

finch,

You might even convince someone about the Washington Times if you would provide any evidence. One web site only headline that had you and Arianna spitting green tea and Biscotti’s all over each other doesn’t really do it.

I think after three days of this it’s time to just write you off as a clueless blowhard.

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

Poor ol’ Woot,

His/her memory is short among other things.

At 8:53. Woo Woo says we should stop posting if we don’t like the AJC and Lucko. You mean abolish freedom of speech?

At 9:02 WooWoo takes a legitimate physics piece on bubbles to use as an attack link on the War on Terror.

Yeah, make “fun” about terror is Woo’s opinion. Oh, terror,haha

At 10:20 Woowoo then wants us to link to a Gulf War 2 cutie piece making more fun about the military.

There are not enough “cute” negative pieces around for WooWoo to express his NONsupport for the War in Iraq, our military, our country and our Commander -in-chief.

Thank goodness for that.

By Vatican Lectures

June 21, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

POINT OF ORDER

@@ is correct. Big oil has no plans to offer alternative fuel for the 100 million automobiles on US highways.

There are fledgling drop-in-the-bucket programs and market tests, but no sane Car Company would make the investment to build alternate fuel engines now.

Hybrid cars are more expensive and gas would have to be 15 dollars a gallon to get your investment back, (and you’d have to drive 400,000 miles a year too).

Dullwitted and Blog-Simple is no way to go through life, sir.

By Andysez

June 21, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

Good honest American capitalism is the ONLY thing that matters! Buy it NOW you unpatriotic scum!

By When Did This Happen??

June 21, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

By SSDD June 21, 2006 12:19 PM I ask for something insightful.

By Vatican Lectures

June 21, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Luchovich’s Cartoon today works because W flubbed that same saying not so long ago. “Fool me once, shame on you, and to lose one’s mind is a terrible thing”, he said.

If I hear that halfwit say, “Nuke-you-lar”, one more time………

What’s upsetting is that W’s use of “Nuke-you-lar” has put that pronounciation in the lexicon, where usage itself becomes grammatically correct. He’s turning the entire country and all future generations of Americans into Blog-Simple, Dimwitted and Clue-challenged nincompoops.

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

WANKER ALERT at 12:11

LIBERALS, please try to keep your WANKERS away from Dusty. She doesn’t want your loser-left tripe confused with her words.

By finch

June 21, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

RW,

I didn’t being up the Moonie Times issue this morning. Your evil twin Suck did. At 8:08am to be exact.

Just so you know who the blowhard really is.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

Vatican Lectures,

How old was W when he taught Jimmy Carter how to say “Nuke-you-lar”?

By Question for Scooter

June 21, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

Random thought: Bush has repeated for six years that global warming “requires more study.” Right? Soooo…. If Gore has spent six years studying it, aren’t his findings worthy of attention? Why are the “studies” funded by the energy industry (good buddies) the only studies he’s willing to consider? Just wondering.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

finch,

You’ve been on a three day crusade against the Washington Times and I have asked you at every outburst for the evidence. Sometimes you cite your Huff&Puff piece, but most of the time you just ignore the question and repeat the same charges later.

This is becoming a significant amount of empirical evidence that you don’t have the first clue what you are talking about. As I mentioned to you on a previous toon, just because you libs tell each other how brilliant your every utterance is at parties on on your private blogs, doesn’t mean people in the real world are just going to accept everything you say on face value.

By SSDD

June 21, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

By SSDD Is Seeker? June 21, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this My money says he is.

I can raed. Yesh. I can.

to answer your questions, BD… ” I don’t believe there was any discussion about your sex (or lack thereof), so you’ll have to specifically cite the incorrect “assumption” that I made.

AGAIN. Assumption is the mother of all f#ckups.

I WASNT SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO YOU

the “you blowhards” part of the “rant” as you so deem it… was PLURAL.

And why is it when someone writes more than a 5 word, or 5 LINE for that matter, post you categorize it a “rant”?

Seems pathetic to not be able to get thru more than a few words at a time, doesn’t it?

By @@

June 21, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

Somebody who “jacked” RW’s name to, once again, malign my profession (special education) opened up an opportunity for me to post this disconcerting news.

The sharpest increase has been in behavioural disorders which have doubled in the past 30 years leading to a spread of stealing, lying and disobedience. More than 700,000 children are affected severely enough by behavioural disorders to require treatment, which disrupts school classes and family life

I know it’s from the U.K., but it seems to be prevalent here in the U.S. Can this be attributed to decline in the family unit? Some environmental influences? They do refer to processed sugar. I don’t know, but behavior modification is key. Maybe it should start with the parents.

I’ve sent my daughter off to college, but she calls me and her Dad at least three times a day to ask for advice and tell us she misses us. Awww Shucks Baby Doll, we miss you, too.

Love your kids everybody, stand firm when you must. @@ is off to run errands.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Isn’t it funny that every time one of these losers wanks your name Goldie is right there to spew about it? Do you think Goldie is the (a)your wanker, (b)stupid, or (c) both?

By Maybe The Libs Are Right About Evolution

June 21, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

Liberals throwing their feces like monkeys do:

June 21, 2006 12:11 PM Woot, You hurt your country and you endanger the troops with your criticism of OUR PRESIDENT. Terrorists are probably reading this blog and will now go out and set up some IED’s because they know there are Americans who disagree with OUR PRESIDENT. You should be ashamed of yourself for putting our troops in harms way and for destroying AMERICA.

It’s a sure sign the Conservatives are kicking their rear ends when they resort to this.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 01:10 PM | Link to this

At 9:02 WooWoo takes a legitimate physics piece on bubbles to use as an attack link on the War on Terror.

Wow, Dusty, if you didn’t see the sarcasium in that then you are lost.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

Sarcasm, I’m the spelling master!

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

Why no, I did not say that yesterday. I did say it weeks ago, at some point. It was Dusty who said that I wasn’t worth her time yesterday.

More “facts” from li’l andy?

Dusty is like video games: sure, they waste time, sure they’re useless in the grand scheme of things, but they provide an amusing distraction from reality once in a while. If we could only put her in a box…

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

RW— you leave no doubt here on the blog who the “stupid” one(s) is(are).

Do you find it funny/interesting that every time someone’s name gets jacked, you’re right here on the blog pointing it out to everyone? As you’ve asked of others here, why don’t you provide some proof of your accusations? It’s usually the ones crying the loudest and pointing fingers (like you) that are the culprits.

By UPS Shipping

June 21, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

Dear Sir or Madame rushncap:

It is not the practice of the UPS to put humans in boxes. Please refrain from your suggestion. It is a cruel and inhumane suggestion for a Socialist such as yourself.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

It’s a sure sign the Conservatives are kicking their rear ends when they resort to this.

You got THAT right, the cons are resorting to kicking their own rear ends, now ! ! !

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

2nd attempt to post the link re: John Murtha welcoming our troops home

Troops echo frustration over war in Iraq

By Daniel

June 21, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

@@: “Stealing, lying and disobedience…” Are you describing the Abramoff, Delay and Safavian crowd?

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

Goldie, this has been going on for months. Everytime the cons get in over their heads they start jacking themselves or claiming they were jacked so they can play the “poor picked on me” card! Poor, poor, babies, waaaaah! Big bad bloggers are pickin on us, waaaaah! We’re gonna tell our moddie on you, waaaah! They’ll do anything to disinform and cinch their corporate welfare war bucks.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

See if you can spot the difference?

When someone says that the articles in a particular newspaper are cult-like and subversive, it’s easy to provide the story and an argument of why you feel that way.

When someone jacks someones name and then they or someone else makes fun of the real poster based on the jacked comment, it is fairly easy to point out the posts, but impossible to prove without being the AJC administrator.

By SSDD

June 21, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

rush!

That was MEAN. How COULD you say such a… oh h#ll. NM. It was funny.

I got one for you.

Why is Andy (or _ insert repube here) like a Slinky???

(This one’s easy folks, c’mon.)

They’re not really good for anything. Yet, when you push them down the stairs, it still brings a smile to your face.

BWa-hahaha-ha-haaaaaa.

THAT WAS MEAN TOO! Why would you even SUGGEST such harm to another blah blah blah.”

We dems will just never learn, EH?

Relax, Dusty and BD and RW and yes even Andy. My bleeding heart would not even allow one of you to be treated so poorly… but I STILL crack a smile at the thought.

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

RW— maybe this link re: Washington Times will help your condition? Although I’m not sure what’s gonna help you at this point…

Cult Controversy

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

RW,

As to your astute observation about a certain wanker whose name begins with “G”, I would go with choice (c) both.

WooWoo,

Your sarcasium explains your vacuum of national support. And it aint funny.

As to the jack-in-the-box poster,

I only give toys to children as their mentalities have not reached maturity. Have fun, little one.

By Midori

June 21, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

ROFL!!!!!!

SSDD — That was a good one!!!

Bwahahahahahaha

And Goldie, you are spot on about RW. I’m his favorite target when it comes to laying blame on someone for thread jacking.

Typical repub - thinks if he repeats a lie often enough, it will become true.

POOF

Wonder if he posts in a Fairy Godmother costume.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

Dusty come back to 2006, this isn’t 1939 Germany.

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

SSDD,

Go to E-bay and you can get another jack-in-the-box. They are so cheap now that even you could afford one. In fact, you could get a liberal one for FREE.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Remember what I told finch about not believing things just because you guys say it?

An Elisabeth Bumiller story in the Washington Post, from May 17, 1982 the first day of operation at the Washington Times telling us what she decided the paper was going to do in the future, is your proof of what they have done.

You people are really hilarious sometimes. Thanks for the laugh! ;-)

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

gadem,

See if this sounds familiar? When the Iraqis are able to stand up and take care of themselves we will stand down.

hmmm…Sounds like an exit strategy with the added bonus of winning instead of surrendering.

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this

Dimmy,

Please ask Cindy, Dan and Goldie for a new line. That one is so stale. Even Congress didn’t go for an exact exit strategy by which you mean exact date.

Didn’t you notice or you can’t memorize a new Dem line?

By SSDD

June 21, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

Thanks Dust.

‘ll stick with my slinky tho. it’s funnier.

By gadem

June 21, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

RW that sounds more like a campaign slogan rather than a strategy….lets see if i can come up with some….

By Midori

June 21, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

Again, We Thank You

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

Woowoo,

Oh gosh, I remember 9/11 and the war in Iraq being fought by American troops which I support.

Did you think we were still fighting in Germany? I hadn’t mentioned it.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this

Oh God, Ann Coulter, wow talk about white trash.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

gadem,

Make up your mind whether you want to hear the strategy or the exit strategy, see you asked for the exit strategy and what I gave you is just that. If you really want the whole strategy it’s slightly longer and I’m not sure your attention span can handle it, but let me know.

By getalife

June 21, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

Yes, Mr. Murtha is the man

What a great American!

By Daniel

June 21, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

The Washington Post reports seven marines and a sailor are going to be charged with murder in the death of an Iraqi civilian. This does not arise out of Haditha, this is another event.

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

You’re welcome, STD

If it makes you funnier, stick with the slinky.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this

Dusty, you can’t read between the lines can you? Are you that dim witted?

Oh, here we go with 9-11. IT WILL BE 911 x 1000. MY GOD THATS…. YES, 911,000! Pretty much all the worst parts of the bible.

If I must explain to you my “Germany” post then I will. Back in Nazi Germany Between 1933 and 1945 a very bad man named Hitler ruled. Pretty much, if you didn’t support the country, you were hauled off by the SS and killed. My post was in response to your: Your sarcasium explains your vacuum of national support. And it aint funny.* I guess according to your ideals, people with dissenting views of the current administration should be treated as such? Should we just say nice things about the Bush administration, and how they’re doing such a bang up job at home and across the world? I though expressing yourself and your ideas was the “American way”? You must live in a different place than me.

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

A-ha! So, RW is a Moonie! Now his problem makes perfect sense… supports and believes the Moonie writers at the Washington Times.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

Sloganeering:

Cut & Win.

Stay & Die.

Stick and Duck.

Cut and Live.

Leave and breathe.

Wait and Pray.

Hang and BANG.

Go and Grow.

By Vatican Lectures

June 21, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

RW, that recipe for withdrawal of US troops, when Iraqis can stand on their own, is not a military mission, nor is it any plausible geo-political end game. It’s spin, and so vague and fictional, that you may as well be Mother Goose herself.

To feather your cap, you should be allowed to lay down some shell of a plan to empty nesters like me, sir. So I ask you to peck away at this:

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

By I'm Surprised He Contained His Joy

June 21, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

By Daniel June 21, 2006 02:20 PM The Washington Post reports seven marines and a sailor are going to be charged with murder in the death of an Iraqi civilian. This does not arise out of Haditha, this is another event.

Versus the 20 thousand Americans who will be charged with murder this year right here in the good old peaceful USA.

Versus the 20 thousand Islamic fascists who won’t be charged with murder, but will instead be glorified by their fellow muslims and pinko lib Americans for killing innocent Iraqi civilians, that for some odd reason Daniel couldn’t give a f*ck less about.

Human filth.

By gadem

June 21, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

Please RW let me hear this strategy that you have…..I am sure Bush would like to hear it as well.

By SSDD

June 21, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

Well Dusty ol girl, you just make my point for me.

“Same old sh#t, different day”

You have NIL to contribute so you make up 3rd grade playground “funnies”.

GWARSH you’re silly. GA-HAW.

By gadem

June 21, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

Maybe next time shrub makes a surprise visit to Iraq the troops can take him on a personal tour of the streets and battlefield. That would be absolute best.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Yes dearie, I must be a Moonie if I question your and finch’s proclamation. How dare I ask you to back up your charges?

Every time I see the Washington Times it has the exact same news stories as every other paper and conservative editorials. Why is it such a well guarded secret with you guys what the problem with them is?

Wait…I know, it’s because you are both full of manure.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

gadem, CbIT, & VL,

Here you go! That wasn’t so hard now, was it?

By Ann Coulter

June 21, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this

“Liberals love America like O.J. loved Nicole.”

By A Coulter

June 21, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this

Andy includes his own insightful commentary with many of his very interesting, informative and entertaining posts.

By Ann Coulter

June 21, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

The Democrats are giving aid and comfort to the enemy for no purpose other than giving aid and comfort to the enemy. There is no plausible explanation for the Democrats’ behavior other than that they long to see U.S. troops shot, humiliated, and driven from the field of battle. They fill the airwaves with treason, but when called to vote on withdrawing troops, disavow their own public statements. These people are not only traitors, they are gutless traitors.

By A Coulter

June 21, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

Usually the nonsense Suck of Many Stupid Names spouts is kind of cute, but in wartime his instinctive idiocy is life-threatening.

By Ann Coulter

June 21, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

Conservatives believe man was created in God’s image, while liberals believe they are gods. All of the behavioral tics of the liberals proceed from their godless belief that they can murder the unborn because they, the liberals, are themselves gods. They try to forcibly create ‘equality’ through affirmative action and wealth redistribution because they are gods. They flat-out lie, with no higher power to constrain them, because they are gods. They adore pornography and the mechanization of sex because man is just an animal, and they are gods. They revere the UN and not the U.S. because they aren’t Americans — they are gods.

By Ann Coulter

June 21, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

“Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don’t hate America like liberals do. They don’t have the energy. If they had that much energy, they’d have indoor plumbing by now.”

By A Coulter

June 21, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

Neo-cons become indignant when you question their patriotism, but simultaneously work overtime to give terrorists a foothold in Iraq and around the world for the next attack and laugh at dumb Americans who love their country and hate the enemy.

By A Coulter

June 21, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

Republicans like Suck of Many Stupid Names always assure us that militarism will work, but when the time comes to serve, he’s nowhere to be found.

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

Woowoo,

You are correct. You must live in a different place than me. Absolutely!

I live in a place where the country is supported. We also support the troops in Iraq because they are fighting for us and the Iraqis. The support of our country is not based on which political party is in power. We love our country ALL THE TIME. We don’t even mind saying we are patriotic, even though it is “politically incorrect”.

Forget your harangue about Hitler. You brought up Germany. Keep sqawking and complaining about America. If that is your appreciation, then stay in your location. I don’t want to be there, ever.

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

No, RW— you’re a Moonie because you don’t even know when to question your leaders. Even when the leader (Rev. Moon) has stated that he is “the Messiah.” You believe that and his “newspaper”, and you’re the one who’s full of manure.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this

Hey Ann, get a life, eat something, and go do something for the country instead of spreading hate and lies. You’re a fcuking hypocrite.

Those with a sense of history might well see the resonance of Ms. Coulter’s hate mongering with the phenomena surrounding the rise of the Third Reich and the end of representative government in Germany. The techniques for asserting credibility and authority were the same then as now: find an entire group (race) to blame and then heap incessant slander upon them. Continue heaping slander upon them. Don’t stop heaping slander upon them. Accuse them of slander. Accuse them of hate. Create a cognitive space of disenfranchisement of the entire group. Those susceptible to a mob mentality searching for scapegoats will become your unwitting stooges.

By A Coulter

June 21, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Republicans couldn’t care less if all of the people in world hate them. But if right wing trailer trash Like Suck ,BD and Dusty curl their lips, neo-cons can’t look at themselves in the mirror.

By Hi, Finch, Er, Seeker, Nothing Better To Do?

June 21, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

By A Coulter June 21, 2006 02:48 PM Usually the nonsense Suck of Many Stupid Names

When you get flustered you blow you’re cover.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

Speaking of overweening, behemoth federal government:

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 21 Jun 2006 at 06:55:03 PM GMT is:

$8,392,173,723,129.100

The estimated population of the United States is 298,953,886 so each citizen’s share of this debt is $28,071.80.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.74 billion per day since September 30, 2005!

BIG, BIG, BIG BUSH GOVERNMENT! Rah, rah, rah ! ! !

By w00t

June 21, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

Dusty, once again you beat around the bush (ha!) not answering my original question. I think you’re just too afraid to think for yourself. What do you want all Americans to do? Do you all want us to be the same, think the same thoughts, and drive the same large SUV? That sounds a whole lot better than it is now.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

Dusty, once again you beat around the bush (ha!) not answering my original question. I think you’re just too afraid to think for yourself. What do you want all Americans to do? Do you all want us to be the same, think the same thoughts, and drive the same large SUV? That sounds a whole lot better than it is now.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

Dusty, once again you beat around the bush (ha!) not answering my original question. I think you’re just too afraid to think for yourself. What do you want all Americans to do? Do you all want us to be the same, think the same thoughts, and drive the same large SUV? That sounds a whole lot better than it is now.

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

STD,

Had to get back to the dirty words to express yourself, didn’t you? Figures.

By w00t

June 21, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this

gah, sorry for the triple post.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

Ah Goldie,

Come on hun, you can do better than that. Why can’t you and General Seeker come up with any evidence? I mean even if I am as you describe, I would think you would want to prove to the readers here that what you say is true.

See he’s a lot smarter than you because he just drops in the accusation after hours when hardly anyone will see it. He might mention it once during the day and then hide out, but you are making yourself look like a complete fool in broad daylight.

Frankly you should thank me, because once you learn to back your words with something more than “because I said so” there is no telling what potential that will unlock for you.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

Dusty got her name cause she’s so old and dried up, she farts dust.

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

The biggest sacrifice most Americans make for “supporting” our troops is deciding whether to put a yellow bumper-sticker on their cars, versus a pink one. Great way to “support our troops”, huh?

I have a couple of ideas: How about bringing our troops home when the “mission” is accomplished, such as when we removed the evil dictator and put him on trial for the Iraqis to determine his fate? How about we NOT ask our troops to stay in Iraq while a civil war is taking place between all of the tribes there? How about supporting our troops by NOT slashing veterans’ benefits to try to make-up for all of the tax-cuts given to the wealthiest Americans during a time of war?

How about let’s hear some real suggestions for how we can “support” our troops, all you right-wing trolls here with your brilliance — and it’s not “support OUR PRESIDENT” no matter what a jack@ss he may be. We’ve all heard that from you ad nauseum…

By SSDD

June 21, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

no no no Dusty. Once again you haven’t the CAPACITY to assimilate the text.

TRY to keep up little girl.

Readdddy? “S.S.D.D.” as in the naaaammmee…

its an ACRONYM. Say it with me one time.

ACK-ROW-NIM.

That big ol’ word right thar? That means “the short form that stands for something else.”

I was pointing out that my name on here is only justified by the likes of YOU and YOURS and your innate DISability to actually say something original. I STILL haven’t read anything new from any of the repube party’s representatives on this board.

By Dusty

June 21, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

Woowoo,

Wake up. Even if you tell me three times, I don’t care whether you drive a SUV or a tractor-trailer. Just don’t drive it where I live with your attitude.

There is a big difference between helpful criticism and plain old pillaging propaganda. I hope you know the difference but right now I don’t see it.

But I am gone for the day. Don’t let the sky fall on you while I am gone. And don’t believe everything the wankers have to say.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Your Grandad is going down!

For anyone else that wants to get that traitor Mothra out of office, click the link and help Diana Irey.

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

I see Dusty still hasn’t bothered to look in a thesaurus. Is it because she’s scared $hitless that she will find out that the terms “country” and “political head of the country” are not synonyms? Or because she does not know how to read, and has to have her views breast-fed to her by that gargoyle Ann Coulter from the podium of Hannity & Whatever?

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this

Gotta love idiot neocons. When they run out of arguments they simple yelp “traaaaaaittooooor!!!!” at the top of their lungs, and hope that drowns out everything else. Exhibit 1: RW.

By Midori

June 21, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this

Hey, looky here!!! Another Bush in training to be the world’s biggest drug abuser

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

RW— please let me know when I posted “because I said so” — you’re really just a hopeless case, I guess. One of the 29% still clinging to your failed president. Oh, wait — maybe he’s actually up to about 33% now. Woo-hoo.

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

Confronted— great cheer for our prez…

Rah-rah-rah, and a p!ss cum-ba! Go W, Go —drive America into the dirt! Keep on keepin’ on for your 29%! Some will support you, no matter what cr@p you’re slinging!

It doesn’t rhyme, I know, but it sounds a lot like what gets posted by the right-wing echo chamber here.

By getalife

June 21, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

RW,

Damn, she does not look like a politician.

Does she see hilliarycoptors too?

LOL.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

rushncap & Midori,

Why is it an American citizen can’t support Diana Irey if they prefer her to Murtha? What kind of America do you want anyway?

Goldie dear,

“because I said so” is what you get when you boil down all your posts that say you are right with no backup or reasonable argument that you are. All you have to do to change that is provide some evidence that what you say is true. How hard can that be? Unless, of course, you are wrong or lying.

By Patriotic Probe

June 21, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

By Midori

June 21, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

RW,

you’re not qualified to fondle Murtha’s jockstrap

Midori knows this because Murtha told her while she was giving him a probe in the old j-strap.

“Put your head on my older. You go girl!

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

getalife,

She would certainly upgrade the class photo for 2007.

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

RW— you’re drooling again. Put on your bib.

By Goldie

June 21, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

RW— Anyone who keeps begging for “proof” that the Washington Times is owned by Reverend Moon (of the “Moonies” fame) needs to start doing his own research, if you don’t like what’s offered to you as a link — there’s certainly a lot of proof available if you really want to learn about it. You’re taking up way too much time and blog space here. I’m sorry that you have to keep learning these sorts of things here everyday, but you should really start doing some reading on your own.

By getalife

June 21, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

RW,

Said Sgt. 1st Class George Wozniak, 36, of Murtha: “He’s definitely for a strong military and he definitely supports the troops.” Patriotism runs deep in Murtha’s district in the Allegheny Mountains, where joining the military is a family tradition and often an economic necessity. Many served in Vietnam and that war exacted a heavy toll, with Allegheny County losing 421 men and Washington County, part of Murtha’s district, losing 67. Memorials to those killed are scattered throughout the towns and cities of western Pennsylvania.

Like I said, a great American patriot.

By gadem

June 21, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

The GOP seems to be grasping at straws….calling Jack Murtha out of touch is a stretch….now shrub is out of touch with reality.

By Scooter

June 21, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

Yeah RW, Goldie has “issues” to discuss.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Who is asking for proof of ownership of the Washington Times? Jeez you’re dense, maybe you should let finch & seeker take this one on himself.

getalife,

Do you really want to play dueling quotes about Mothra?

gadem,

Mothra wants us to fly in and out of Okinawa if trouble arises in Iraq. Now does that really sound “in touch” to you?

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

Okay, time for some serious comic relief!!

Go here and post your personal story or video (hooray!) about how you have witnessed global warming

My response was as follows:

I have noticed a growing population of gas bags polluting the blogosphere, and apparently some of them also work for ABC News.

By No, I Think You Heard That Wrong

June 21, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

We know Murtha has been “touched.”

By What's She Talking About?

June 21, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this

RW: I believe Goldilocks loses track of the debate rather easily. It’s all that head bobbing she does when General Seeker speaks.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I noticed it was hot out today. Do you think that’s the kind of hard-hitting news ABC is looking for? Do you think their Aussie division is doing a global cooling expose since it’s now winter?

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

Poll: Santorum approval rating declines

HARRISBURG, Pa. - Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record)’s approval rating has skidded to a four-year low, the latest sign of distress for the outspoken conservative and ally of President Bush, according to a poll released Wednesday.

The lead for Santorum’s Democratic opponent, state Treasurer Bob Casey, has stretched to 18 percentage points since early May.

Casey leads Santorum by 52 percent to 34 percent — the biggest margin since October, when the numbers were the same, according to the Quinnipiac University poll.

Only 38 percent of respondents said they approved of the way Santorum, the third-ranking Republican in the Senate, is handling his job. Forty-five percent said they disapproved and 16 percent did not express an opinion.

Looks like the r**** hero, Santorum, is going down instead of Murtha, don’t it? Couldn’t happen to a nastier guy cause there are no nastier guys! Please send all Republigraft to Diana Irey so maybe America can keep one token Repugnicant in office for old times sake.

By gadem

June 21, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

No RW, you are right, it is better that the troops stay there and get killed.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

More than $2M raised for Libby’s defense

WASHINGTON - Supporters of Vice President Dick Cheney’s indicted former chief of staff have raised more than $2 million since late last year for his legal defense in the CIA leak case.

If you can’t rely on innocence, maybe you can buy yourself a not guilty verdict with enough Republigraft.

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

STDS,

Why do I think that you “rant”? Maybe because you fit this definition from the Ricktionary to a tee?

IgnoRant - Noun. 1. Unintelligible jibberish written by angry moonbats. 2. Rabid, unedited, writing that is entirely devoid of restraint and reason, mirroring the personality of the author.

P.S. If it wasn’t me you were babbling about about incorrect “assumptions”, then who were you specifically talking to about your hyper-gender sensitivity issue?

finch,

Let me repeat, you have been using the tactic of hounding Andy which is a childish stunt.

Since I used the word stunt in that sentence as a synonym for tactic, I have proven that The Washington Times was using perfectly acceptable prose to characterize the Dem’s tactics as a stunt.

Indeed my proof is far stronger than your assertion that anything that comes out of that fine conservative paper is written by Moonies for the consumption of Moonies.

By Jay not jay

June 21, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, here’s the money quote from that article:

“unusual animals that have arrived in your community, higher water levels encroaching on your property.”

WTF?

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

CIT,

Explain to us where “GRAFT” plays any role in PlameGate.

Please!

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

RW,

Why dontcha send them a riveting email? Maybe you could send a video too! Maybe your lawn is a bit brown this year?

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

What’s She Talking About?,

That must be the problem with all of them. As soon as one of them says “Bush sucks” they start looking like a roomful of bobblehead dolls in an earthquake. Once it starts to calm down one of them says “Conservatives live in a bubble” and it starts up again. Sorry Goldie! Maybe you can get Shaken Idiot Syndrome placed under some federal program.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

21,000 troops notified for Iraq deployment

WASHINGTON - The Pentagon has notified about 21,000 Army soldiers and Marines that they are scheduled to be sent to Iraq late this year as part of the latest deployment rotation.

Public Service Announcement: Do you know where your children are going?

Well it’s one, two, three,

What are we fightin for,

Don’t ask me I don’t give a cr-ap

Next stop is in Iraq,

and it’s five, six, seven,

Open up the pearly gates,

There ain’t no need to wonder why, whoopee we’re all gonna die.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

gadem,

It’s better they stay and complete the process of promoting a model for freedom in the heart of the Middle East. The alternative plans that we used in the 1990’s sucked. Of course you probably want a bunch of Americans to get killed in a surprise attack on Chicago or somewhere so you can blame Bush all over again.

CbIT,

Is the new moonbat standard that you do get a trial, but you aren’t allowed to defend yourself? How about if you aren’t guilty, do you have to go bankrupt or just go to prison anyway? Not very American of you.

By @@

June 21, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

Pollutants in the air. I’ve got a magnolia tree in my yard that is sending noxious fumes up my nose. No telling what it’s doing to the ozone. Is there anything that smells worse than a magnolia…yes…a gardenia.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

Republigraft-Abramhoff-Republigraft-Safavian-Republigraft-Delay-Republigraft-Reed-Republigraft-Bush

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

JNJ,

Hilarious isn’t it?! I hope these clueless disasters don’t vote too.

As for the unusual animals (in addition to some of my new neighbors) I forgot to mention that I saw ManBearPig leaving a big carbon footprint in my yard and I had to use my pooper scooper to get rid of it.

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

RW, you can support Irey all you want. It’s your calling Murtha a “traitor” that exposes you as a neocon nitwit.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

That would be my hyperbole and your opinion, would it not?

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

Some 85 Iraqi workers abducted by gunmen

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Gunman abducted about 85 workers Wednesday as they left an industrial plant north of Baghdad, police and a witness said.

The workers were thought to be mostly Shiite and the plant is located in a predominantly Sunni Arab area.

The witness said that about 85 workers were taken near the parking lot of the al-Nasr General Complex in Taji, 12 miles north of Baghdad, while police Lt. Thaer Mahmoud said they filled up a bus and a minivan. Taji is predominantly Sunni Arab area that has seen much insurgent activity.

I can’t keep up. Is this the LAST, LAST THROWS of the insurgency or is this the LAST, LAST, LAST THROWS ? ? ?

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

Speaking Of Which,

Jonah Goldberg nailed it in your link. The Heat and the Hurricanes both won championships this week. What more proof of global warming do we need?

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

CIT,

Do you have a clue what the word GRAFT means? Did Scooter profit in some way?Tick tock tick tock.

Hey! Since you’re so good at making unsubstantiated allegations, maybe you can help finch out with his Moonie crusade. Party time!

By finch

June 21, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

The Moonie Times is a flashback to the 19th century, when highly partisan newspapers lobbed provocative but utterly false charges against people and organizations they didn’t like. And then watched as the lies spread.

There was Al Gore’s canoe trip in Connecticut in 1999. The Moonie Times says it was environmentally damaging. It wasn’t.

Remember the 1988 story about Mike Dukakis and his mental health? A Moonie Times story. Intentionally false conjecture.

(Moonie Times) editors removed the phrase “but I doubt it,” highlighted the phrase “It’s possible” in a dramatically misleading opening to his story, and headlined the piece “Dukakis kin hints at sessions.”

(Another typical Moonie Times “stunt”. A headline that lies! Wheeee!)

A synopsis of the Moonie Times Gore lie is also in the above link.

For comedy relief, there’s “Lynxgate”:

“The Washington Times turned this incident into a crusade, dedicating 10 articles, two editorials and an opinion piece to this “biofraud” over the course of a month after breaking the story on December 17, 2001. Lynxgate illustrates the power of the Times—a newspaper founded in 1982 as a vehicle to promote the right-wing views of Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s Unification Church—to promote a conservative agenda and feed it into the mainstream media environment.”

It’s the usual co-ordinated Moonie Times smear. Run a dirty, misleading story, watch as lazy wire services and TV stations pick it up. Soon, it’s debunked, but the Moonie Times damage has been done.

And never, ever admit you erred! THAT’S what sets the Moonie Times apart.

When the NY Times or CBS runs a misleading or inaccurate story, and gets nailed, they say they didn’t mean to be biased and they’re really really sorry. Insincere? Maybe. But at least they make the effort.

But the Moonie Times does neither, which makes it a truly abominable excuse for fishwrap.

Now, if you want me to shut up about what a piece of c-rap the Moonie Times is, stop challenging me to show you.

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

CIT,

Err, that would be the last THROES, unless there is some way-past-overtime football game in progress in Iraq that I am unaware of.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

Yup, RW all innocent Americans need at least a two million dollar legal defense war chest. It’s only the guilty ones that need a standard defense fund !

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

No, that would be a hysterical lie, and my opinion, RW. Slight difference.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

Car bombing kills 2 in Baghdad

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A parked car bombing struck a Shiite slum Wednesday in Baghdad, killing at least two people and wounding three, police said.

The explosion occurred near an ice cream shop in Sadr City, a sprawling district in eastern Baghdad, police Capt. Sattar Jabar. It was the second such blast in as many days in the neighborhood. A parked minivan packed with explosives also exploded at a busy outdoor market there on Tuesday, killing seven people and wounding 22.

Elsewhere, gunmen killed police Maj. Rahim al-Alousi as he was standing near his house in Hit, 85 miles west of Baghdad, police said.

Ooops, wouldn’t want to get BDs drawers all twisted in a knot. This must be the LAST, LAST, LAST, LAST “THROES” of the Iraqi insurrgency ! ! !

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this

finch,

Is there a reason that after three days you finally come up with something new, but all it is is another opinion piece that relies heavily on Eric Boehlert? That would be the same Eric Boehlert that ran the hit piece in the Huff&Puff report that you used as “proof” the other day.

Let’s try this another way. Since you say not a single person reads or buys the Washington Times a) why do you care and b) how can they possibly have all this power you convey onto them? Besides if all they really print are a bunch of easily debunked lies I would think you would be thrilled at how easy it would be to show the world how brilliant you were by proving it.

By finch

June 21, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this

Okay, one more swipe at the Moonie Times. Too good to pass up.

In the months after 9/11, Americans put aside partisan differences to unite against a common foe, terrorism.

But the Moonie Times had other plans.

Clinton calls terror a U.S. debt to past Joseph Curl, The Washington Times, 11/8/01

Conveniently, the story has disappeared from the rag’s website.

But the Free Republic reaction to this story lives on!

The story was an inflammatory hit piece, printed when 9/11 wounds were still raw:

“But did Clinton say that “America got what it deserved?” The statement is complete, utter nonsense. There is nothing resembling that view in his speech—though readers of the Washington Times couldn’t know that. The Washington Times had deceived its readers—and angry readers were taking the bait. The Times published letters from irate readers who didn’t know that the paper had lied.”

Do you want to trust a “newspaper” like this?? I know I don’t.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this

CbIT,

Have you checked the Clinton defense fund accounts lately? Sure screws your premise up unless you think Bill and Hill are two of the guiltiest politicians ever to walk the earth.

LOOK ^ ^ ^ Done in normal typeface!

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this

Who was just posting sad data that Rick Santorum was losing in the polls?

Well what a coincidence! He is on the news right now, giving details of…………………..WMDs, in the form of chemical weapons that have been found in Iraq.

Bwahahahaha. Who lied?

Stay tuned.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

US Senate votes down increase in minimum wage

No raise for the working men and women of America but…

Congress gives itself a raise, but what about the minimum wage?

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

What do they teach you in the reeducation camp? Your opinion can’t make my words a lie. Is that where you get your “Bush lied, rushncap cried” BS?

By YAHOO-ADMIN

June 21, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this

Has anyone noticed that “Confronted…” gets all his/her/other/both (did I miss any possibilities STD?) links from Yahoo? Where have I seen that before?

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

No, my opinion does not make your words a lie. The fact that they are not true makes them a lie. I don’t know about any reeducation camps (for you to attend one you’d have to be educated in the first place), but I do know that you have no grasp of the dictionary.

By Daniel

June 21, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

Lt. Ehren Watada USA has refused orders to Iraq. He states, based upon the “Nuremberg Principles” that he as a soldier is responsible for his actions in time of war. He states that “Nuremberg” demands a moral stance against the Iraq War as an illegal war of aggresion. Support the troops!

By General Seeker's Last Gasp

June 21, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

It took 3 days to compile a headline about Michael Dukakis that you disagree with? I was always a firm believer that he was mentally ill. I still feel that way.

And everyone knows Gore flies all over the Earth, blowing hydrocarbons out his tailpipe the whole way, how can anyone dispute that?

If I’m hearing this correctly, it is O.K. for the NY Times and SEE BS to lie because if caught, they’ll admit it? Did Dan Blather get that memo? Can you call Mary Mapes and let her know?

What a weakling. This is it?

It would probably all be kind of funny if the whole thing hadn’t been started as a case of outrage at the Puffington Host, one of the most partisan slanted rags in existence. Why not quote Air America, goofball?

No, it’s just sad.

A beaten old man, constantly shamed, lashing out blindly in a paranoid rage.

How pitiful.

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth

June 21, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this

Boy, Bush’s CIA sure is good. It only took em 3 years to “discover” (wink, wink) some WMDs, huh ! Those must be the same WMDs that Saddam used against our troops when they were invading … NOT !

By Yeah For The Terrorists!!

June 21, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this

Way To Go Boys! That’s the spirit! Kill those women and children for us!

By Confronted by Inconvenient Truth!! June 21, 2006 05:32 PM Car bombing kills 2 in Baghdad The explosion occurred near an ice cream shop in Sadr City, a sprawling district in eastern Baghdad, police Capt. Sattar Jabar. It was the second such blast in as many days in the neighborhood. A parked minivan packed with explosives also exploded at a busy outdoor market there on Tuesday, killing seven people and wounding 22.

Yeah!

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

Ah, good ol’ Santorm done gone to I-raq and done found hisself some chem-icals? Congrats.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

I keep forgetting you are a school boy, so I’ll slow down this time. I’m not sure I can go slow enough because I’m not a fieth grade teacher. I’m also not a prosecutor, which is where this whole thing turns.

You see I am a citizen and as a citizen I feel like Murtha has turned his back on the military and by accusing them of being cold blooded killers before any charges were even filed, it is again my opinion that he has been a traitor to the troops and frankly to the principles this country was founded on.

Were I a government official or a federal prosecutor the word traitor would carry with it the implication of a criminal action. Since I am a private citizen it is my opinion and cannot be considered a lie.

By Daniel

June 21, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this

Rw: You’re off base. Jack Murtha doesn’t speak until he has spoken with the generals. An American general who speaks out against the Iraq War does so at the expense of his or her career. You know the examples. Murtha is talking because the American generals want him to. After all, he is a marine. Bush? MIA.

By Scooer

June 21, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this

Clinton appoints George Tenet who tells Bush, WMD’s in Iraq is a “slam dunk”, and Confronted by Inconvenient Truth criticizes Bush’s CIA. What a laughable partisan.

Zarqawi said: ”There is no doubt that the space in which we can move has begun to shrink and that the grip around the throats of the mujahidin has begun to tighten. With the deployment of soldiers and police, the future has become frightening.”

The media’s silence is deafening and very telling.

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this

Sigh. At least you’re right in one respect, you’re certainly not qualified to be a 5th grade teacher.

Main Entry: trai·tor Pronunciation: ‘trA-t&r Function: noun Etymology: Middle English traitre, from Old French, from Latin traditor, from tradere to hand over, deliver, betray, from trans-, tra- trans- + dare to give — more at DATE 1 : one who betrays another’s trust or is false to an obligation or duty 2 : one who commits treason

Murtha has betrayed no trust. He never had an obligation OR duty to toe the Republican party line. And he never committed treason. So feel free to call anyone you want a “traitor”, for any reason you want. In which case I will continue to call you a liar. Do we have a deal?

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 06:25 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Jack Murtha (D-PA) is a Congressman of the United States of America and holds a position that is sworn to uphold the United States Constitution. So if what you are saying is true and he is just a flack for a disgruntled General and is accusing Marines of crimes without due process on the Generals behalf, then you have just accused him of some VERY serious violations of law and of violating his oath of office.

Tell you what, I’ll go along with you on this one and demand that he step down and face trial ASAP.

rushncap will be along to slap you around for that in a minute.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 06:30 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

If your boy Daniel is right he sure as hell has betrayed a trust in the legal sense, but he’s betrayed my trust anyway because I believe in our Constitution which gives you a right to face your accusers and to be proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

So I can’t really take your deal because the definition you provided fits my description. Therefor I can call Murtha a traitor all I want and if you call me a liar for it that’s just you being a disgruntled moonbat. Deal?

By What An Idiot

June 21, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

By Daniel June 21, 2006 06:14 PM Rw: You’re off base. Jack Murtha doesn’t speak until he has spoken with the generals.

The only thing Filthy Mouth Murtha has done has influenced the outcome of an investigation and possibly a future court martial. Because of his mouth those soldiers will probably walk and any prosecutor worth a lick will charge Murtha with obstructing an investigation.

Not to mention the fact that he is totally violating the constitutional right to a fair trial due to these soldiers if wrong doing is found. This doesn’t seem to bother sissy as-s bitc-h Daniel, maggot mouth, although if it were Gitmo detainees I’m sure he would feel quite differently, those are his fellow a-ssholes, after all.

How would anyone know, other than the soldiers on the ground, who shot any children in the head? It could have been the terrorists setting up a crime scene for the benefit of anti American di-ckheads like Daniel, the version of the killings every one is working with was given by an Iraqi. Remember Baghdad Bob?

And why don’t we, especially a veteran congressman, give our soldiers the benefit of the doubt? It isn’t like they are risking their lives for us or anything.

By What An Idiot

June 21, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

rushncrap: The constitutional definition of traitor, by way of the act of treason, is “giving aid and comfort to the enemy.”

Now I know you elite pinkos haven’t quite decided exactly who the enemy is yet, us or them, but from RW’s perspective, Murtha has crossed that line and is parading the sh-it around now.

I thought you were a little school girl, boy, what ever?

You were a Bush Sucks majorette, weren’t you?

By Daniel

June 21, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this

RW: Upholding the US Constitution is not the same as supporting the most repressive elements of the republican party. MUrtha respects the truth. Jack Murtha is a patriotic American, decorated veteran, hard working decent man. The Bush manner demands fealty. You see that here. The rest of your stuff is hogwash. Bush? MIA.

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this

Violations of which law, exactly, RW? You seem to know an awful lot about this, so tell us all which law is Congressman Murtha violating? The “And Bush Spake And So It Shall Be Done” Law?

By finch

June 21, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this

Dear Suck’s Last Gasp,

I have you so bamboozled that all you can do is shoot the messengers! Go ahead and read your “Moonie Times”. It’s a free country!

Your “But CBS did it toooo!!” excuse is priceless!!! A sin is far more egregious when a sinner refuses to repent. And the “Moonie Time” never does.

We’ll all just sit back and giggle over how silly you are!

Heee hee hee heeheeheeheee!!!!

RW,

At last count, the “Moonie Times” had a daily circulation of about 103,000… far less than any other daily in any US city of comparable size. That’s in addition to being a sterling example of shoddy journalism. But visitors and casual readers here might not know that almost nobody reads it, and almost nobody respects it.

So when folks like Suck throw it out and pretend its a paper with gravitas, I like to point out just what a detestible piece of garbage it is.

It’s a calling!

By rushncap

June 21, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this

Wow, RW, you really do have a flimsy grasp on our Constitution. Murtha is not accusing anyone, the JAG prosecutor will be accusing the Marines.

You hate Murtha because he happens to disagree with your Golden Idol Bush. That’s your prerogative. But he is a far more patriotic American than you can ever be or even comprehend with that husk of a brain. Dissent is patriotic. Blind lemming-like obedience is not. It’s just easier.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Violating your oath of office to become an angry left poster boy doesn’t have a damn thing to do with Bush being in office. You may think selective application of the Constitution is a good thing, I don’t. You are nothing but a blind partisan and it’s people like you, not the Republican party, that are the biggest potential problem in this country.

Thankfully hardly anybody listens to your anti-American crap enough to make a difference and in a way your idiotic rants help people to see what a fool you and the ones you parrot are.

By Scooter

June 21, 2006 06:50 PM | Link to this

RW, perhaps rushncap (the hater) prefers his convictions in the court of public opinion?

We are Patriots and when a combat zone includes enemies wired to detonate themselves and a US soldier shoots an injured unarmed terrorist, we will villify him Our support is only in retreat and whacking moles.

By Daniel

June 21, 2006 06:51 PM | Link to this

Have any of you cowards ever worn the uniform of our country? Have you ever seen a battle casualty? Do you know why General Newbold opposes you? Have you ever seen a dead child? You seem like empty headed political dupes. The marines at Haditha admitted to the deaths. The USA paid each family $2500 per death. Sgt. Wuterich admits to the deaths according to SOP. Is there something wrong with you? Oh, Ok, I get it. You live in a fantasy, made-up republican party dream world. The truth is your liberation of Iraq is a gun shot to the back of the head of a child. This truth is way too hard for you.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

finch,

I don’t doubt your numbers as to their circulation, so how does that make them a dangerous subversive voice that carries this enormous power you claim?

I still don’t see the problem with the paper. On the few times I’ve picked it up it has the same news stories as anybody else. The only difference is the editorial page is conservative.

Your rage over it makes you look very much like an old man screaming at everybody that passes by to get a job or something. I think your obsession with Andy is behind this whole thing with the Times.

By getalife

June 21, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

OMG, W was attacked

LOL.

By General Seeker Surrenders!

June 21, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this

Too easy.

By finch June 21, 2006 06:43 PM Dear Suck’s Last Gasp, I have you so bamboozled that all you can do is shoot the messengers! Go ahead and read your “Moonie Times”. It’s a free country!

I probably should show the vanquished some mercy but the bald faced hypocrisy deserves punishment:

At last count, the “Moonie Times” had a daily circulation of about 103,000… far less than any other daily in any US city of comparable size.

So let’s have fun with this logic using it in a slightly different manner than A. Coulter has. Let’s compare the Puffington Host and Air America audience to, let’s say, Rush Limbaugh’s following.

Hahahahahahahaha.

And I believe Limbaugh quotes the Washington Times quite often, in service of destroying the credibility of the NY Times and SEE BS. It’s a dependable source.

A Media Watershed- Dan Rather and the end of the liberal monopoly. Wall Street Journal, Thursday, September 16, 2004 12:01 a.m. EDT However the flap over CBS and those National Guard “memos” turns out, the past few weeks mark a milestone in U.S. media and politics. Along with the Swift Boat Veterans’ ads, the widespread challenge to Dan Rather’s reporting—to his credibility—means that the liberal media establishment has ceased to set the U.S. political agenda.

Step aside pinkos, make room for the new media, WaTimes included.

Let’s all have a good laugh. On you.

By Scooter

June 21, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this

John Murtha is simply irresponsible in his pretrial conviction of his fellow Devil Dogs.

When UBL recruits new terrorist by telling them that the US only wants to exploit the Middle-East’s oil and build permanent bases, then the “media” and “the left” say the very same thing, that is in fact aiding the enemy. That is treason and I know of no conservatives guilty of it.

During WWII we had a media that was censored and asked themselves a question prior to printing, that question was; Is this information I would like to have if I were the enemy? Today we have a “media” that thinks they can use control over their dissemination of information to run a country of political poll followers, while using hindsight to vilify political leaders.

Then we have Daniel who seems to think the terrorist are trying to figure out the right colors for their uniforms, because; he has said leaders should never send soldiers to fight an invisible enemy.

By RW-(the original)

June 21, 2006 07:36 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Didn’t say any such thing, did he?

Daniel,

General Time speaks

Murtha accuses General Pace of being involved

Now I realize the knee jerk moonbat reaction will be to follow General Seeker over the cliff by spewing about Ian’s lack of credibility, but all those links have sound and/or audio of the appearances.

I have lots more if you each want your own little piece of the traitor.

By Buy Danish

June 21, 2006 07:58 PM | Link to this

Scooter is a hard act to follow, but I’ll be gone all day tomorrow, so alas I must post after hours.

finch,

Your post which you say debunks the Washington Times says this:

*In fact, Clinton had noted—in a brief, fleeting comment—that terroristic behavior had been directed at blacks and native Americans in the American past. And he noted—again in passing—that the west had engaged in acts of terror against Islam during the Crusades…](http://www.dailyhowler.com/h111201_1.shtml)

But! Here’s what Clinton said:

Those of us who come from various European lineages are not blameless. Indeed, in the first Crusade, when the Christian soldiers took Jerusalem, they first burned a synagogue with 300 Jews in it, and proceeded to kill every woman and child who was Muslim on the Temple mound. The contemporaneous descriptions of the event describe soldiers walking on the Temple mound, a holy place to Christians, with blood running up to their knees. I can tell you that that story is still being told to today in the Middle East and we are still paying for it. Here in the United States, we were founded as a nation that practiced slavery and slaves were, quite frequently, killed even though they were innocent. This country once looked the other way when significant numbers of Native Americans were dispossessed and killed to get their land or their mineral rights or because they were thought of as less than fully human and we are still paying the price today. Even in the 20th century in America people were terrorized or killed because of their race. And even today, though we have continued to walk, sometimes to stumble, in the right direction, we still have the occasional hate crime rooted in race, religion, or sexual orientation. So terror has a long history.

Fleeting? In passing?

But! Hark! Here’s is something that Clinton and Bush agree with, but Finch and others think is just “neo-con propaganda” -

I further think we must do more about democracy. Ten years ago I said it ought to matter to us how people govern themselves because democracies by and large don’t go to war with each other, don’t sponsor terrorist acts against each other, and are more likely to be reliable partners, protect the environment, and abide by the law. Democracy is a stabilizing force. It provides a nonviolent means for resolving disputes. I believe that. And it’s no accident that most of these terrorists come from non-democratic countries.

So finch/seeker/et al, you are celebrating a victory that does not exist. Very rushncapesque.

By Andrew Huddleston

June 27, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry you’re so confused, Mike. Check out this link—one of the latest I’ve seen. Maybe it will assist you—maybe not. http://www.clermontyellow.accountsupport.com/flash/UntilThen.swf

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