Mike Luckovich

By Disgusting

June 20, 2006 08:02 AM | Link to this

This is your cartoonist, liberals, in a nutshell. Maybe I’m missing something but I sure don’t find any humor in suicide, especially over a sport. This is shameful.

Suicide is a serious illness that has taken many of our children, why subject their parents to these depictions, trivializing this horrible affliction over such a petty matter.

It’s almost like you want to popularize suicide, make it an acceptable, even funny answer to life’s menial problems.

This cartoon needs to be withdrawn and an apology issued.

By I Report, They Whine

June 20, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Episcopalians passed a resolution expressing “regret” for consecrating a homosexual bishop in 2003, but not “repentance” as many of the world’s Anglican archbishops have urged.

The resolution that apologized to other Anglicans for not taking into account “the impact of our actions” was passed the same day as the newly elected presiding bishop played up the divisions within worldwide Anglicanism by saying homosexuality is not a sin.- Washington Times

We answer that by saying episcopalians are not a religion.

We’re all making up the rules as we go.

By I Report, They Whine

June 20, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this

Excellent point by the Washington Times, one for sure to get the Puffington Host’s panties in a wad:

Neither Carl Bernstein nor Robert Woodward was summoned to reveal the identity of “Deep Throat,” i.e., Mark Felt. Neither Nina Tottenberg nor Timothy Phelps was ordered to disclose the congressional source for the Anita Hill affidavit. The New York Times reporters who disclosed President Bush’s secret domestic surveillance program in contravention of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act have not been compelled to reveal their sources. Neither has The Washington Post’s reporter who wrote about the CIA’s secret prisons or interrogation centers abroad.

By Tell Us Again How Much You Love The Dixie Chicks

June 20, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

Pardon me if I’m wrong but once you commit a felony, such as child molestation, don’t you like lose your rights as a citizen?:

Tougher law for sex offenders under fire

*A class action lawsuit on behalf of Georgia’s more than 10,000 registered sex offenders is expected to be filed today in U.S. District Court. *

The lawsuit challenges sweeping sex offender legislation the state’s General Assembly approved this spring and that is set to take effect July 1.

Because of new restrictions that it would impose on where sex offenders can live, work and loiter, the law’s “result will be catastrophic, even harder than it must have been for the children,” according to a copy of the lawsuit.- Atlanta Urinal

Or does that only apply to Republicans and Enron executives?

By Ellen

June 20, 2006 08:11 AM | Link to this

Maybe I’m looking at the wrong cartoon. The one I see is about the Braves and it has to do with their losing. I see nothing related to suicide. If there was another cartoon about that subject, I agree it’s not appropriate and distasteful. However, this Braves cartoon is sad, but true.

By Mike

June 20, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

I have a question for those that advocate getting out of Iraq. What do you see as the long term end state in Iraq? Or are you just focused on getting our troops out? I don’t mean this to be a trick question, I really just want to know how you guys see this playing out. I think we can all agree that some mistakes have been made in the handling of the insurgency, but the way I look at it is that we have to leave that country strong enough to defend itself. But I think it would be interesting to have an open debate on this.

By Gee

June 20, 2006 08:21 AM | Link to this

My first clue was the guy hanging by his neck right in the middle of the drawing.

Looks like a suicide to me.

By Buy Danish

June 20, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

Ellen,

Maybe you’re right. Maybe this cartoon is not about suicide at all, but is about homicide.

Sheesh.

By clark

June 20, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

Ellen;

In the dugout, third player from the right, hanged himself. Its a joke relating to the play on the field. But conservatives like to complain and whine about everything even when there is nothing there.

By GodHatesTrash

June 20, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

@ Disgusting,

It’s not about suicide, it’s about lynching, a sport that southron rednecks love a whole lot more than baseball.

Feel better now?

By the way, God hates stupid whiny humorless redneck trash.

Just so you know.

By gadem

June 20, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

Mike, Iraq in essence is a no win situation. Ideally to be successful there, the US would have to be there for generations. The people of Iraq have different beliefs. It was a mistake to go into Iraq, but Bush supporters see it as something that needed to be done to remove Sadaam when we all can agree that there are even more dangerous and deranged dictators in the world.

By Divorce Envy

June 20, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

It looks like a troll has taken over this blog and we now are suffering a fool. Every blog eventually degenerates into a trolled chat room.

MIKE LUCHOVICH: Please have one of your staffers review this blog hourly and delete those comments which appear to be debating replies, but are actually one troll posting to himself using multiple IP adresses and emails with several different computers. It’s an OLD chat room trick.

My Comment about the cartoon, and the suicide criticism and the loser mentality of Bobby Cox? A half hitch knot works best when hangin’ losers. That hanged Brave must have tasted the cold hot dogs and warm beer they serve at Turner Field. He must have gotten a load of Jane Fonda’s latest “strip-aerobics” video. Where’s the rope, I’m joinin’ him. Fire Bobby Cox NOW.

By Mike

June 20, 2006 08:33 AM | Link to this

gadem, that is waht I see as the problem with many of the war critics. You see it as a lost cause. While I think it will take several more years to win, I don’t think we need to be there for generations. I do think the Iraqi people want a form of democracy. I agree that it will not be a mirror image of ours. I think that is why the war critics are having trouble getting traction on this issue, is that they are offering no solutions. I am not saying this as a Bush believer that thinks nothing is going wrong over there, but to say nothing good is happening is just as patently false.

By Eric

June 20, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

I think suicide is a RIOT.

Anyway how did this baseball cartoon turn into Republiklans versus Democraps.

Oh I remember… you folks are idiots.

By Brian

June 20, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

Yea, that was funny.

By Good Deep Belly Laugh

June 20, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

Let’s all laugh about suicide, hahaha. So funny.

As usual, liberals don’t want to hurt other people’s feelings, unless, of course, that means not having any fun.

Then it’s to hell with feelings, let’s party!

By Making Fun Of Mental Illness

June 20, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

Hahahaha. So funny, let’s all go to the psychiatric ward and have us a really good time! It’ll be a blast!

Let’s trample all over these sick people for our little petty games!

By Divorce Envy

June 20, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

.Al Queda Cells in the USA.

Iraq: the question is not “do we pull out”. The question is, “what happens when we win”?

It’s nice, the way the USA is bringing peace and prosperity to the Iraqis. Nice things for nice people…it’s nice.

I subtracted 911 from 1776 and I got 666. Nostradomas was right! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!

By Disgusted w Disgusting

June 20, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

Dear Disgusting. Get a life (and a sense of humor).

By gadem

June 20, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this

Mike what I am saying is that we should not be there in the first place. What is the reason for us being there? I recall during the 2000 presidential debates, one GWB stated that the us services were not nation builders, but that is what we are doing. And for those that think that we have the man power to attack Iran as well as fight wars on two fronts.

A solution Mike would be to bring in the UN to allow us to withdraw our troops as well to help train the Iraqi forces. Iraq is turning into a civil war state.

By Eight Sixty Five

June 20, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

Divorce Envy-When you get this divorce let someone else do the math for any settlement.

By @@

June 20, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

Enough already with the sports stuff. I’m feeling disenfranchised here. I’ve got my panties in a bunch kinda like the “wedgie” Cox is sporting.

“How ‘bout them Braves”? I’ve heard people say that, so I thought it would be apropos to the cartoon, but from the looks of it, I’m way off base so tag me, I’m out.

By AceCometh

June 20, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

I’m sickened by the lack of seriousness when facing the issue of suicide. It’s not a matter over which a party should be thrown. It’s not a matter of liberals and conservatives or Republicans and Democrats. I agree that it should not be trivialized within a sports cartoon but it should also be taken in stride. No appologies are in order from the drawing of it, it should just be stated that it was very typical to have been drawn in such a way to make sports more important than they really are. This nation wouldn’t fall apart if all it’s different sports were suddenly taken away. Athletes are only athletes. They’re not soldiers.

By Mike

June 20, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

gadem, there are valid arguements for being in Iraq. At this point it doesn’t matter though, becuase we are there. What we need to focus on now is how to make the best of it. I too remember Bush saying we weren’t nation builders and I applauded that. Obviously they didn’t expect it to turn into an insurgency. A big mistake. We won’t attack Iran with that many forces in Iraq. We don’t need to attack Iran. I think we are on the right course on that one. As for using the UN in Iraq, I don’t think they will ever help us there. There are too many countries that hate the US to commit forces there. We are doing the right thing now in focusing on training the Iraqi forces. Iraq is not turning into a civil war. I personally think that is a big misconception. Yes there are forces there that want that to happen, but the majority of the Iraqi’s don’t.

By gadem

June 20, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

I think they were being sarcastic with the subtraction, at least I hope they were…..

By gadem

June 20, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

Mike when ever you mix differing religious beliefs and a struggle for power, the chances are increased that it will turn into a civil war. I am open minded and I would like to hear the valid arguments as to why we are there? Please…

By AntiRadical

June 20, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

Good toon ML. The deadly seriousness that many fans and players place on what is, in the end, only a “game” truely escapes me.

Good grief, “Disgusting” (Andy) when you start your morning posts with something as biased and off-the-wall as your initial post, eveything that comes after just goes ker-plunk. This is a “cartoon” about a “game”. Lighten up guy, you’re making your party look a little- well, “Koo-Koo for CoCo Puffs”.

For everyone who doesn’t get the print edition AJC, I found the following editorial comment about “Lobster Rights” to be priceless:

So Whole Foods will stop selling live lobsters to please those lunatics at People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

Two comments:

1. At some point the lobsters are going to be killed anyway. What does PETA want- lethal injection?

2. Lobsters are basically large, marine cockroaches. On land we just step on them, with no concern for their pain and suffering.

PETA is bent on making it politically incorrect to eat meat, and Whole Foods is shamelessly appeasing them.

Jim Chambers- Tucker

Thanks, Jim. I’ll have my marine cockroachs with clarified butter and a medium rare 2” thick New York strip steak. The call for “Lethal Injection” really cracked me up.

On a more serious note, I was interested to see yesterday and the day before, the rabid comments of a far leftie (now removed) regarding Dick Cheneys regretable quip of a year ago (puffed up to two years) that the Iraq insurrgency was in its’ “(last,) last throws”. Then yesterday (after the two posts), I see that Cheney was nailed on this exact statement by the DC press corps (and his, also, regretable reaffirmation of his position).

This indicates to me that both mainstream political parties likely have very sophisticated propaganda networks in operation that are surreptitiously low-balling us all in forums like this one and in the press corps. On this blog, “Andy” and “Spammin Andy” are highly suspect to me. In keeping with todays toon theme, (Odd/Foul)balls hit into left or right field I discount as being party generated and devoid of credibility regardless of any bona-fides claimed through links. I find the comments of RW, Finch, @@, WS, LTD, Ricky, getalife and many others to be more worthy of my attention.

Ricky, I missed responding to your last comment about the civil rights ammendment. Yes, indeed this was an admirable feat for our elected representatives (especially considering the racial tensions of the era). I’m afraid that I disagree with your claim that the Reps secured its’ passage and have to give the Dems a point for this one but LBJ’s rider of the Great Society programs yielded a minus point for me, so in my opinion both parties end up in a draw as regards the moral high ground (at least on this issue).

Condolences to the families of the two soldiers who were kidnapped and then killed yesterday. We probably can’t even imagine what their last hours must have been like. Personally, if I were serving road patrol in Iraq I would prefer to go down fighting. This doesn’t make Haditha any less wrong, but perhaps more understandable and worthy of some level of forgiveness (ditto for My Lai in my own era of service).

Ugh, now that I have reverted to a Limbaughism, I’ll catch everyone another time, looks like a bear of a day for me from here on out.

By gadem has a what?

June 20, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

gadem is open minded BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA…stop it you’re killing me…..open mind and gadem?….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…

By wes

June 20, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

Holy cow! Its a suicide!!!! Oh wait, it’s just a cartoon…Whew!!!!

By Buy Danish

June 20, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

This nation wouldn’t fall apart if all it’s different sports were suddenly taken away. Athletes are only athletes. They’re not soldiers.

AceWanketh,

Are you a member of the Taliban? Get rid of sports (i.e. kite flying) music, art, sculpture, books, photograpy and pretty soon all you’re left with are “soldiers of Allah” and people living in 5th century mud huts.

By Dusty

June 20, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

gadem

Since the reasons we are in Iraq have been discussed over and over, I can only believe you want another opportunity to knock our government, knock the president, claim support for our military there while showing NO support.

Mike made some very sensible remarks. But you only want to mention the down side. How great it would be if Americans could present a solid front to the world showing them that we will win and we will stay until Iraq is stronger. I hope we never give any indication to terrorists that we will ever back off from removing them,murderous barbarians that they are.

By Yars

June 20, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

It’s a silly cartoon. I thought it was very funny. If you are a die hard Braves fan and have been following this team on a daily basis since opening day, not missing one game, you’ll get it. Why are some people so oversensitive and easily offended nowadays? It’s comedy! I needed a good laugh this morning, and I got one.

By gadem

June 20, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

Dusty in your mind it is impossible to support the troops while have no respect whatsover for this administration. I have friends and family that are in the serivce. I want them (the troops) to come home safe, but I have NO respect for sir shrub… Thank goodness those that I know in the service are not in Iraq. I have only had one friend deployed to Afghanistan as a medic, and as soon as she got back she got out as soon as her enlistment was up. It is easy to want to fight a war from the sideline.

By Midori

June 20, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

Disgusting,

try it; you might like it.

in any event, you would be doing several of us a huge favor.

By gadem

June 20, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Dusty I am assuming that you have no reasons…

By AntiRadical

June 20, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

Dusty- I have to disagree with the “unified front” theory before I go. When the rest of the world sees our debates it does not diminish our credibility, instead it shows them that in our way of life, everyman and woman has a voice and that they are allowed to use it.

This is a good thing, even if it may be inconvenient for the Reps or their war efforts at the current time. In the end, ‘Freedom will ring’ regardless of what happens in Iraq.

By Liberal Texas Democrat

June 20, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

Funny ‘toon

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

Well, another former Bushie bites the dust..

And, Dusty, you are right, we have discussed reasons we’re in Iraq. They are (and were) all lies. That may have something to do with our reluctance to be all chipper about this war. This is, of course, not even dealing with the fact that the whole adventure was so thoroughly botched that Enron, in comparison, looks like the early years of the Roman Empire.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

gadem,

I thought you guys pretended to support the war in Afghanistan.

finch,

LOOK ABC CHANNEL 7 has joined the ranks of dangerous subversive cults masquerading as news outlets.

Congressman Pete Stark: “There’s no reason we can’t get out, except that I suspect that the generals and leaders who make those decisions don’t want to leave, seen as a failure, a mark of losing. They don’t want to cut and run. What I’m concerned about is they don’t know what they want to win.”

How do they know he meant Iraq? Call Huff&Puff and get them on the case, after all he might have meant “get out” of bed. These darn Moonies are everywhere!

Your indictment of the Washington Times is even lame by moonbat standards.

By Third Base Coach

June 20, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

Go home on your foul-ball at 10:18. How many times are you going to suggest that to someone on this site?

By Mike

June 20, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

rushncap, you say that the reason we are in Iraq are all lies. Two independent commissions have concluded that Bush didn’t lie and that no administration official applied pressure to any CIA officials. Was the intel wrong? It appears it was. Then so was Germany and France. So were all the Dem politicians who repeatedly said Saddam had WMD’s and chemical weapons.

By Play that funky music white boy

June 20, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

Wow, I thought this was hysterical - I’m guessing that all you people offended by the “suicide” player don’t watch Tom and Jerry (there’s nothing funny about getting your eyeball caught in a mouse trap), the Simpsons (There’s nothing funny about a dimwitted drunken nuclear plant employee), the Stooges (there’s nothing funny about getting an iron run over your bald head then spinning on the floor going ‘whooo whooo whoo’) - lighten up. As a former college baseball player who has played on great and not so great teams this cartoon is dead on - pardon the pun!

By Goldie

June 20, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

Poor, sad Atlanta Braves! They get sold to new owners, they get rid of their winning pitching coach, their hitters are slumping — I’m not a big fan of some of Bobby Cox’s post-season decisions in the past, but I’m not sure this debacle is his fault. Seems like too many changes to a winning formula and Atlanta is paying the price for that.

By gadem

June 20, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

Mike I am still waiting on those valid reasons as to why we are in Iraq….I do have work to do so I will check back later.

By Dusty

June 20, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

AntiRad,

The terrorists already know about our freedom of speech. They use it as a weapon. What they don’t know is how Americans are going to use it.

I reiterate my contention that loud and united support of this war and our military would bring a quicker and more just end to the conflict.

I am furious over the last two tortured American soldiers. I believe the terrorists are already using it for publicity, thinking that Americans will cringe into slinking away. They will be justified by cries from liberals undermining our military efforts in every way.

I am not saying get rid of freedom of speech. But I am saying THINK before you speak. Support the troops and revile the terrorists in ways that they can see plainly.

By Goldie

June 20, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

Yes there are forces there that want that to happen, but the majority of the Iraqi’s don’t.

So Mike — what’s your opinion of the recent Iraqi poll taken where 87% of Iraqis want all foreign occupiers to leave? And what’s your opinion of the new Iraqi government asking the U.S. for a timetable for withdrawal?

Do you believe that the Iraqi citizens should have any say in what happens to their country next? Or is this all about “saving face” for your guy Bush?

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

Of course the comission found that, Mike. What, were you expecting them to find the obvious truth? Please! It would be too big a bombshell, it would never be allowed by the party that controlls the whole government.

The truth is that he did, of course, lie. Everyone knew that there was no Al Qaueda in Iraq, even people who simply bothered to read newspapers (which Shrubby apparently does not). As for WMDs, his claim that there are, and that they are a danger makes Bush either a liar or completely incompetent. Take your pick. The Dem politicians were spineless, I agree. But that does not let the main liars off the hook.

By Good Old American Censorship

June 20, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

That’s the spirit AntiR, whine about Bush “wiretaps” and then turn around and advocate censorship. You really are a lib:

By AntiRadical June 20, 2006 09:57 AM On this blog, “Andy” and “Spammin Andy” are highly suspect to me.

What are we supposed to discuss today, what has been approved by the state?

Funny suicides?

By By The Way

June 20, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

I guess comment length isn’t a big concern, as long as it’s not a Republican anyway.

By AntiRadical

June 20, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

Good toon ML. The deadly seriousness that many fans and players place on what is, in the end, only a “game” truely escapes me.

Good grief, “Disgusting” (Andy) when you start your morning posts with something as biased and off-the-wall as your initial post, eveything that comes after just goes ker-plunk. This is a “cartoon” about a “game”. Lighten up guy, you’re making your party look a little- well, “Koo-Koo for CoCo Puffs”.

For everyone who doesn’t get the print edition AJC, I found the following editorial comment about “Lobster Rights” to be priceless:

So Whole Foods will stop selling live lobsters to please those lunatics at People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

Two comments:

PETA is bent on making it politically incorrect to eat meat, and Whole Foods is shamelessly appeasing them.

Jim Chambers- Tucker

Thanks, Jim. I’ll have my marine cockroachs with clarified butter and a medium rare 2” thick New York strip steak. The call for “Lethal Injection” really cracked me up.

On a more serious note, I was interested to see yesterday and the day before, the rabid comments of a far leftie (now removed) regarding Dick Cheneys regretable quip of a year ago (puffed up to two years) that the Iraq insurrgency was in its’ “(last,) last throws”. Then yesterday (after the two posts), I see that Cheney was nailed on this exact statement by the DC press corps (and his, also, regretable reaffirmation of his position).

This indicates to me that both mainstream political parties likely have very sophisticated propaganda networks in operation that are surreptitiously low-balling us all in forums like this one and in the press corps. On this blog, “Andy” and “Spammin Andy” are highly suspect to me. In keeping with todays toon theme, (Odd/Foul)balls hit into left or right field I discount as being party generated and devoid of credibility regardless of any bona-fides claimed through links. I find the comments of RW, Finch, @@, WS, LTD, Ricky, getalife and many others to be more worthy of my attention.

Ricky, I missed responding to your last comment about the civil rights ammendment. Yes, indeed this was an admirable feat for our elected representatives (especially considering the racial tensions of the era). I’m afraid that I disagree with your claim that the Reps secured its’ passage and have to give the Dems a point for this one but LBJ’s rider of the Great Society programs yielded a minus point for me, so in my opinion both parties end up in a draw as regards the moral high ground (at least on this issue).

Condolences to the families of the two soldiers who were kidnapped and then killed yesterday. We probably can’t even imagine what their last hours must have been like. Personally, if I were serving road patrol in Iraq I would prefer to go down fighting. This doesn’t make Haditha any less wrong, but perhaps more understandable and worthy of some level of forgiveness (ditto for My Lai in my own era of service).

Ugh, now that I have reverted to a Limbaughism, I’ll catch everyone another time, looks like a bear of a day for me from here on out.

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

Dusty, I completely agree with you. One should THINK before excercising the freedom of speech. Let us all know when you plan on start doing that.

By willie

June 20, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

This blog has “jumped the shark”. Pack it in.

By Check This Out

June 20, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

By Yars June 20, 2006 10:17 AM It’s a silly cartoon. I thought it was very funny. If you are a die hard Braves fan and have been following this team on a daily basis since opening day, not missing one game, you’ll get it. Why are some people so oversensitive and easily offended nowadays? It’s comedy! I needed a good laugh this morning, and I got one.

Ummmm, Ann Coulter?

The same people that flipped out about dissing widows are now giggling about a depiction of a suicide.

And waxing indignant to any criticism.

Open minded under certain circumstances, eh?

Do we get a drawing of cartoon boy as the alien next?

I doubt it.

By How sick is the left?

June 20, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

See for yourself

By Dusty

June 20, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

Rushncap,

Your pseudo intellectual diatribes are hardly worth a response. Why don’t you and gadem get together and have a question and answer session? You could keep talking about rotten conservatives, etc., etc., .. gadem would keep repeating over and over that he/she was waiting for your reasons.

By Pick Through The Constitution Until You Find What You Like AJC

June 20, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

By Third Base Coach June 20, 2006 10:37 AM Go home on your foul-ball at 10:18.

Don’t worry about it. People like that are usually stupid mindlessly ignorant and bitter until they are really old and alone, then they go to Church and pray.

All of these idiots will.

By gadem

June 20, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

Dusty by your failure to answer, I can only assume that you have no valid reasons that we are in Iraq. And by constantly talking without answering a simple question I can now classify you as a JOKE

JOKES 1.) Dusty

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

By “pseudo-intellectual” do you mean “go over your head”? Or do you consider chanting “Support the troops, support Bush” ad nauseum to be “intellectual”? Just wondering, Dusty.

By Not Buyin It

June 20, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this

I reiterate my contention that loud and united support of this war and our military would bring a quicker and more just end to the conflict.

Trying to understand how my dissenting opinion aids the enemy and hurts the troops. Am having a disconnect in the logic. Perhaps you can fill in the gaps. I frequently write to my senators, congressman, and Georgia legislators. It is thier job, their purpose, and their OATH to listen to my opinion, care what I think, and represent me. But they consistently make it clear that my opinion does not concern them in the least. Again, it’s their JOB to care, and yet they simply don’t. I have dependents who rely on me for evertything. But when I speak, they hear a faint buzzing noise, or the equivolent of Charlie Brown’s teacher. They don’t care what I think, though it’s in their best interest.

So HOW CAN IT BE that the native people of a desert five thousand miles away, who do not speak english, who have never met me or corresponded with me, nor do they take time out of their busy trying-to-stay-alive-today schedule to read the AJC…. HOW CAN IT BE that, while no one HERE cares what I think, even those who are paid to do so, THOSE people care SO MUCH about my opinion of this corrupt, criminal administration, that they’d use it as a basis for decision making when determining whether to harm our troops? How could they KNOW what I think, and why would they CARE?

Unless you can seriously connect those dots, then your assertion is ridiculous!

By Dusty

June 20, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

Rushncap,

Doesn’t your student assistant job keep you busy? If not, aljazerra has a few openings. Take gadem with you. He/she can confuse the enemy with stupid questions which will be repeated over and over. I would say ad nauseum but that is your favorite cliche.

By Anybody See Any "Fair Use" Guidelines Posted Here?

June 20, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

I seemed to have missed those:

To “‘Lea Donosky’” cc Subject RE: luckovich blog i took down the postings that used too much copyrighted material and/or didn’t attribute. you’ll see that i left up several that did attribute and didn’t go beyond the fair use standard of 150 to 200 words.

Or are we just making them up as we go?

Censoring what we don’t want to see?

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

Anybody See Any “Fair Use” Guidelines Posted Here?,

Apparently they make up the rules as they go, but you have to love the irony of enforcing this new rule right under a cartoon that blatantly used the SeeBS logo without any special “Fair Use” attribution.

By Liberal Texas Democrat

June 20, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

“By Not Buyin It June 20, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this I reiterate my contention that loud and united support of this war and our military would bring a quicker and more just end to the conflict.

Trying to understand how my dissenting opinion aids the enemy and hurts the troops. Am having a disconnect in the logic. Perhaps you can fill in the gaps. I frequently write to my senators, congressman, and Georgia legislators. It is thier job, their purpose, and their OATH to listen to my opinion, care what I think, and represent me. But they consistently make it clear that my opinion does not concern them in the least. Again, it’s their JOB to care, and yet they simply don’t. I have dependents who rely on me for evertything. But when I speak, they hear a faint buzzing noise, or the equivolent of Charlie Brown’s teacher. They don’t care what I think, though it’s in their best interest.

So HOW CAN IT BE that the native people of a desert five thousand miles away, who do not speak english, who have never met me or corresponded with me, nor do they take time out of their busy trying-to-stay-alive-today schedule to read the AJC…. HOW CAN IT BE that, while no one HERE cares what I think, even those who are paid to do so, THOSE people care SO MUCH about my opinion of this corrupt, criminal administration, that they’d use it as a basis for decision making when determining whether to harm our troops? How could they KNOW what I think, and why would they CARE?

Unless you can seriously connect those dots, then your assertion is ridiculous!”

BRAVO!

By Charlie

June 20, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

The cartoon might be funny if Lukovich were in the noose. There are lots of funny “Braves fickle Fans” who might also look good hanging there. Apparantly this is “funny” to those who haven’t a clue about playing the game or are just plain IGNORANT if they think that all pitchers on “our” team should should pitch a perfect game everyime or all “our” batters should maintain a pefect 1.000 batting average or that think Bobby Cox is just a character from the comic pages. The ‘FUNNY’ thing is that all the “so-called fans (if the Braves are winning)” think that they could play the game and have a perfect score/average but sit on their behinds and duck their heads if a foul ball comes into the stands and are NOT OUT THERE playing for those extraordinary salaries. Maybe John & Bobby should field a team of these with names. numbers, and salaries desired and Batting average/pitching era’s on the back of their shirts. I’d like to see that game(?) er—- that first inning - only - which I predict would end with an extremely high Opponent score and with the team of complainers/b***/ naysayers scoring ‘000’.

By Ellen

June 20, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

My mistake. I guess I should have paid closer attention to the picture instead of just the words. I overlooked the rope the first time I saw this, so again, my mistake. The joke is funny, but I agree, it could have been achieved without adding a hanging to the cartoon.

By Huge

June 20, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

From today’s AJC:

A Pentagon document classifies homosexuality as a mental disorder, decades after mental health experts abandoned that position.

The document outlines retirement or other discharge policies for service members with physical disabilities, and in a section on defects lists homosexuality alongside mental retardation and personality disorders.

Critics said the reference underscores the Pentagon’s failing policies on gays, and adds to a culture that has created uncertainty and insecurity around the treatment of homosexual service members, leading to anti-gay harassment.

Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Jeremy M. Martin said the policy document is under review.

Support our troops! Bring ‘em home straight!

By gadem

June 20, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

Joke, I am assuming that you are not going to answer the question. If asking you to list valid reasons as to why we are in Iraq is confusing to you….my world child how do you get out of the bed in the morning. RW, Andy, anyone can you be a life line for Joke because he/she/it can not or refuses to answer the question. It is not like I am asking you to calculate to amount of brain matter that your President destoyed doing drugs.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

I wonder if we can get fair use standards for people that have nothing to say so they just copy entire other posts and cheer for them?

By Robert

June 20, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

Too much is being made of the Braves fall from grace.

By @@

June 20, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

Ain’t Buyin It:

It’s the worldwide net thingy, don’tcha know. Al Qaeda uses it to wage their war worldwide.

By Buy Danish

June 20, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Rushcap,

You keep trying to convince us that you are one of the “elites” and are SO much smarter than everybody else - so much so that YOU should be conducting the policies of our Department of Defense.

Yet, the one issue that you really, really care about is… . . . . . sex.

Sorry rushncap, but you have not convinced me that you should entrusted with anything, except perhaps arranging orgies. You know what they say - if you love your work you will have a succesful career.

Here’s some vital information that will come in handy when you embark on your new career^^:

“Redeployment” is an unreliable way to prevent pregnancy or venereal disease.

By Dusty

June 20, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

Not Buying it,

You seem to think that you are just a “voice in the wilderness” that nobody hears. Just a “tree falling in the forest but nobody hears because they are not there”.

Well, no buy, they do hear and quite well. The communication systems of this world are not deleted from the Middle East. When enough Americans oppose what our troops are doing, it goes straight around the world through communications. It does not encourage our troops. It encourages the enemy. They are not without communication systems.

Maybe the dictatorship , the prisons and torture chambers, the mass graves in Iraq don’t bother you. We may not have gone there for those reasons alone but that is what we found. We are now trying to establish just the opposite.

Don’t forget Nazi Germany when nobody complained or acted and then we found millions of dead bodies? Perhaps you cannot equate Hitler with Sadaam but the similarites are there.

So, Not By, you think your voice is not heard but it IS and adding to the “airwaves”. As I have said before, think what you are supporting before you add your sentiments to what the enemy WANTS to hear.

By Liberal Texas Democrat

June 20, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

By @@ “June 20, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this Ain’t Buyin It:

It’s the worldwide net thingy, don’tcha know. Al Qaeda uses it to wage their war worldwide.”

Which must make it doubly frustrating for you, knowing that after reading all of your postings old Al Qaeda hasn’t just given up and surrendered to you, BD, and Andy

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

gadem,

You’ve been spewing “answer the question” for so long I thought you might be Daniel. Dusty doesn’t need any help in dealing with the likes of you and there isn’t a single thing in the world that you would consider valid anyway.

If you ever decide to ask that drugs/brain matter question could you write it in English?

By Dr. Jay

June 20, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Sure it’s funny… Lighten up, Francis.

By Huge

June 20, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

I reiterate my contention that loud and united support of this war and our military would bring a quicker and more just end to the conflict.

LTD, your premise is one that has intrigued me for a long time. The “faketriots” assert that by speaking out against the war, Americans are cowardly and actually embolden the enemy to fight harder. I find that a blind if not outright cowardly postion itself.

I asked a gop friend of mine the following hypothetical question a few weeks ago: If every single American was supportive of the war 100%, do you believe that the enemy would simply give up the fight? To my complete surprise, he answered yes.

Of course, no one, can really say what would happen, but this outcome seems extremely imlausable to me. Did the Japanese or Nazis fight any less hard knowing that the nation was virtually to the man, 100% committed to the fight?

When the shock and awe started, Bill O’Reilly said that any American who protested the war after the bombs started dropping was un-American. The very next night he admitted that he was wrong! (And for just a brief and mistaken moment, I thought, hey, maybe this guy isn’t a complete dick) He went on to say that they were just bad Americans! You know, Bill - a class act, all the way…

Support the troops, bring them home. (Straight or otherwise)

By Midori

June 20, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

RW,

The problem can be easily and quickly solved by just answering the question.

You people sure love to play the Nazi card.

By Daniel

June 20, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

While we ponder the impact of the Safavian convictions, 4 of 5 Counts of the “Abramoff Package” Fraud, Bribery, Conspiracy etc.”; note this item from today’s Washington Post from David M. Walker Comptroller of the US: “The Department of Defense is not equipped to deliver high quality products in a timely and cost efficient fashion” I could tolerat the Right-Wing leadreship of our country, if they were competent. Five and 1/2 years into this administration and they’re a flop.

By gadem

June 20, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

Some food for thought…. According to the U.S. Treasury Department, America’s first 42 Presidents, from George Washington (1789) to Bill Clinton (2000), borrowed a combined total of $1.01 trillion from foreign governments and financial institutions. From 2000 to 2006, the Bush White House has borrowed $1.05 trillion alone. Yes, that means we have borrowed in the last 5 years what we had previously borrowed in the first 211 years of our country.

By gadem

June 20, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

Chew on this Joke

By Midori

June 20, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

Gadem,

that’s positively frightening (the borrowing info).

By Liberal Texas Democrat

June 20, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

“By Huge June 20, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this I reiterate my contention that loud and united support of this war and our military would bring a quicker and more just end to the conflict.

LTD, your premise is one that has intrigued me for a long time. The “faketriots” assert that by speaking out against the war, Americans are cowardly and actually embolden the enemy to fight harder. I find that a blind if not outright cowardly postion itself.”

Huge, I think you may have missed the quotation mark at the beginning of that post. I was applauding what Not Buying It had posted … Just to clarify before I head to Tractor Supply Company.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

Midori,

A little subtlety has obviously slipped your limited grasp. I did answer the question by informing gadem that there was no answer he would accept.

Now oddly enough even though you missed that you somehow found a Nazi reference. Go figure.

By Cavalry Scout

June 20, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

You people are laughable… You quote statistics about Iraqi’s wanting us out of the country…

I was there (Just recently got back as a matter of fact - less than two months ago).

The majority of Iraqi’s WANT the US (and coalition partners) there. It’s kind of like comparing the population of Atlanta to the criminal element of Atlanta and letting the criminal element decide if Atlanta has enough police.
You slam dusty for “not being there - and being on the sidelines”, then talk as if you have been there and know what Iraqi’s are thinking.

I was out on patrols the day of elections. Something you can only understand if you witnessed it.

For those of you who think Iraqi’s want the US to leave, thanks for watching CNN. Greenday was right when the wrote the song “American Idiot”. You people are controlled by the media.

By willie

June 20, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

Oh gee, an article hostile to Bush 43 from Rolling Stone…imagine that.

By Fair Use Standards

June 20, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

If Liberal Texas Democrat would italicize his quotes like everyone else here then people with SMALL minds wouldn’t make those mistakes.

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

Danish, I’m not sure where your “sex” diatribe came from, but may I suggest you seek some help for your problems? You strike me as a very mentally unhealthy individual, with some jajor issues. I have not mentioned sex on this board, so, honey, please get some treatment.

Oh, and I’m not “elite”. You and yours are just idiots. “Sometimes men come by the name of genius in the same way that certain insects come by the name of centipede—not because they have a hundred feet, but because most people can’t count above fourteen.” - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

As for DoD, I do not have the knowledge or the experience to run it. Though neither do the people who run it now. But at least I recognize it.

By Daniel

June 20, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

gadem: They’re not done yet! Acording to the same WP article mentioned above Rumsfeld can’t account for 30 Billion!

By Not Buyin It

June 20, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Thank you for the “you are not alone” encouragement. Yes, I DO think about how the torture chambers, (AbuGraib) suspension of due process (Gitmo) and atrocities against civilians (collateral damage?) are perceived by the enemy. Those things may have contributed to the brutal slayings of two captive American soldiers this week. “If Americans do not respect human life, why should we respect theirs?” But you see, it wasn’t MY voice, or those that rise in harmony, that contributed to that. Our voices cry out for sanity, truth, peace, and diplomatic resolutions whenever possible. YOUR voice, however, reminds me of the Nazis who silenced all those who objected to their “solutions.” BTW, I find it interesting that YOU claim to know what “they” think. Special powers maybe? Magic fairy dust?

By Mike

June 20, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

gadem, here are some valid reasons for being in Iraq. We have toppled the most tyrannical regime in that region. We now could have Iran buffered by two free societies(Iraq and Afghanistan). Saddam was a bad character. It appears that he didn’t have WMD’s. But I don’t believe for a minute that he wasn’t trying to either acquire them or produce them. As for the arguement that Al Qaede wasn’t in Iraq. Zarqawi was their prior to the invasion. You should read some of the reporting done by Stephen Hayes on that subject. It is very interesting and compeling. Obviously you have already made up your mind about his issue which is why I laughed out loud earlier when you said you were keeping an open mind. The difference between you and I is that I will admit that while some mistakes have been made, we are making progress. You will never admit that things are going well.

By Welcome Back And Thank You

June 20, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

Cavalry Scout: Be advised that the liberals on this board think that suicide bombing innocent women and children is a “heroic” act and the soldiers trying to kill these murderers are the real criminals. See the front page of the Urinal for the joy and ecstasy felt by these pinkos for troops being brought up on murder charges.

It’s a sickness, look at all the happiness over the suicide cartoon.

By Midori

June 20, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

Awwww,

Gee,

RW the Original Nitwit can’t answer the question, yet he wants to try to taunt someone.

My limited grasp tells me that you’re a phoney. And a Numbskull.

By @@

June 20, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

LTD:

I’m betting that since Al Qaeda is against all things “liberal” perpetrated by Western culture, they probably withhold anything a “conservative” might post.

Now I find that ironic, don’t you?

By Midori

June 20, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

We now could have Iran buffered by two free societies(Iraq and Afghanistan

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You should do stand up

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this

Mike, that is all cute and good, except Bush never said any of that before the war. He LIED to get us to go to war, I guarantee you neither the American public nor the international community would ever invade Iraq because “Saddam is a bad guy”. You know that, and he knew that. So he lied. And lied and lied and lied. The only reason “Saddam is a bad guy” is in play is because Bush’s desperate cadre of sycophants and defenders direly needs something — anything — to hang their hats on, since all their pre-war blathering has been exposed as lies. “Iraqis should be free” would never fly as a justification for an invasion which has cost over 2,500 lives, hundreds of billions of dollars and caused tens of thousands of deaths in the other country. And you KNOW this. You just don’t seem to be able to admit the obvious.

By Levari

June 20, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

How can anyone say you should lose your rights as a U.S. citizen for child molestation? Hillary Clinton says it’s just a natural urge for some people. Dosen’t it make you feel comfortable that she could be the next president?

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

Oh really? He never said any of that before the war?

By Mel

June 20, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

I think the hanging in the cartoon is right on with the Braves playing. Why are they losing all these games? Because they are killing themselves with stupid decisions.

First they keep older players that should be long gone and pay them way too much and then get rookies and pay them the minimum. The rookies are working their tails off to stay in the majors and the pay difference probably makes for a tense locker room so you will get no real team work from this group.

Pitching is an issue, Cox does not seems to know when to take out a pitcher. Guess they should have used some of the money they are spending on the has beens to keep Leo around.

Yes Mike was right on with this one, the Braves are killing themselves.

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

Thanks, RW. To quote your own “war hero”: Eleven years ago, as a condition for ending the Persian Gulf War, the Iraqi regime was required to destroy its weapons of mass destruction, to cease all development of such weapons, and to stop all support for terrorist groups. The Iraqi regime has violated all of those obligations. It possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. It has given shelter and support to terrorism, and practices terror against its own people.

This is his 3rd paragraph, right after 2 paragraphs of intro. Except for the last 6 words, it’s all lies. I could do this for all other paragraphs, pick one at random. About 70% of what he said was a lie. And I’m being very very generous with the other 30% here.

Do you read your own links, RW?

By gadem

June 20, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this

Well, Mel I think they need some more veteran leadership. Smoltz has one or two more years left. I think Chipper is overpaid. The young guys are getting trial by fire….

By @@

June 20, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

RW:

I guess Rushncap and Gadem’s problems are that they weren’t invited inside to hear “that” address by Bush, but yet they are inside his brain and know what his intentions were.

Does that make them “brainworms”?

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

It is a link to the most formal pre-war speech President Bush gave. I didn’t editorialize or parse any of it, I offered it as the accurate record of what was stated. You can choose to interpret it any way you would like, but saying that he never mentioned any of those other things pre-war is just inaccurate on your part. Not that you being inaccurate should in any way shock anyone.

By Goldie

June 20, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

Calvary Scout— welcome back, and I’m sure that YOU know what the majority of Iraqis want for their country, because you were busy polling them while you were there? I certainly didn’t realize that we were sending our troops over to Iraq to do that!

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

@@,

Probably, but brainmaggot might be more descriptive of at least one of them. Interesting that you show a sign of respect for them that they don’t even show for themselves.

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

@@, I don’t give a crap about what Bush’s “intentions” were. I care about the results. That how I happen to judge a President: what he accomplishes. And if his major accomplishment is an unmitigated disaster, I really don’t give a damn about whether all he wanted to do was rescue a fluffy kitty. He screwed up. BIG time. I happen to believe that when you screw up, you face the consequences. Obviously you do not.

By The U.S.A, Getting Smarter

June 20, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

Regarding potential Democratic candidates, 47 percent of respondents said they would “definitely not vote for” both Clinton, the junior senator from New York who is running for re-election this year, and Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, the party’s candidate in 2004.

Forty-eight percent said the same of former Vice President Al Gore, who has repeatedly denied he intends to run again for president.

Among the Republicans, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani fared better than the Democrats.

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

RW, you are either phenomenally dense, or phenomenally dishonest. Only you know which.

Bush “mentioned” that Saddam is bad. He also “mentioned” that Cincinnati gave him a warm welcome. But neither the Saddam = bad nor Cincinnati = warm were his primary, secondary or even tertiary reasons for war. Those were ALL lies. And you know this.

By Midori

June 20, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

RW, you are either phenomenally dense, or phenomenally dishonest. Only you know which.

How about both?

He is the “Original”, after all.

By Ralph

June 20, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

The crazed, alcoholic, arrogant, AWOL Bush & cohorts sent US troops to die in Iraq on a completely impossible mission. And die they do. Recall Rumsfeld’s oft quoted statement, “We are fighting just a small group of disgruntled insurgents.” (To say nothing of 20 million others who rightfully hate us.) So now these simple peasants have tortured and slain 2 more of our “elite” forces. If they must continue to die in this worthless “cause,” let it be in this humiliating fashion. Perhaps one day the treasoness voters who put Bush in office will understand their ignorance. The rest of the world already understands it full well.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

If you take a break from your blind, sputtering rage you might want to look up lie in a resource like a dictionary. Here’s a head start.

Now you stated that President Bush never even said these things pre-war. See? I said he did and provided the proof. Who’s dense and/or dishonest?

By Midori

June 20, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this

Among the Republicans, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani fared better than the Democrats.

It’s going to be pretty funny watching you morons rip them to shreds.

Rudy has pics of himself in drag posted all over the net. Calls himself, “Ruditha”. Yeah, that will fly with you homophobes. Additionally, Donna Hanover has more juicy tidbits to share about him.

And McCain? HAH!!! Among other things, didn’t your leaders tip the world off that his wife had a baby with a black man? And that he was a traitor to his country and collaborated with the VC? And that he was “unstable” from all of those beatings he took while he was a POW?

This is going to be a lot of fun.

By Deaf Or Dumb?

June 20, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this

Rushncrap: If you were capable of reading more than one or two paragraphs you would have found this in RW’s link:

On Saddam Hussein’s orders, opponents have been decapitated, wives and mothers of political opponents have been systematically raped as a method of intimidation, and political prisoners have been forced to watch their own children being tortured.

America believes that all people are entitled to hope and human rights, to the non-negotiable demands of human dignity. People everywhere prefer freedom to slavery; prosperity to squalor; self-government to the rule of terror and torture. America is a friend to the people of Iraq. Our demands are directed only at the regime that enslaves them and threatens us.

Seems quite clear to me.

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

Congratulations, RW. Since you cannot argue facts, you are reduced to arguing vocabulary. I don’t care enough about that, so how about this: you win the vocabulary showdown. Enjoy! Unfortunately, I’m right about Bush and this administration. You, on the other hand, are officially qualified to proof-read a 5th-grader’s English essay. How’s that for a compromise?

By We're Already Laughing

June 20, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

Giuliani may be gay, or what ever you libs are saying about him, but he’s polling higher than that d** that Bill “married.” Hahaha, and he ain’t even announced anything yet either.

Loads of fun.

By Dusty

June 20, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

Rushncap & NotBuy,

Your exurberant anti-American lies are about as low as Americans can get. So—Bush is the enemy and Sadaam is a sweetheart. Americans are devilish torturers to prisoners, women & children and shoot everything in sight. Yet not a single prisoner has turned up with his head missing, except by terrorists. There has not been a single American suicide bomber. When Americans have forgotten our rules of war they are tried and punished. We are a civilized nation.

I hope all you liberals doing your “thing” realize what is being put out as your viewpoint. There is no other way to describe it except as anti-Americanism. Your “hardcore” is disgracing this country. Your quotes from Thomas Jefferson and your cracked view of freedom of speech are only a cover for all the muck. No wonder you are a losing political party. If these people are speaking for you, Americans will reject you as pure roadkill and ride on by.

By Mike

June 20, 2006 02:25 PM | Link to this

Wow Midori, its interesting to see you attack two Reps candidates two years before the election. I don’t think I have ever seen you actually debate an issue. It would appear that your role here is represent the rabid left and throw bombs.

rushncap, do you believe that Bush knew before the war that Iraq had no WMD’s? Otherwise you can’t accuse him of lying. Like I posted earlier two independent commissions found no evidence of inflating intelligence. Not to mention that every major intel agency in the world believed Saddam had WMD’s. How many times did Clinton, Daschle, Schummer, Gore, Kerry, et al say that.

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 02:25 PM | Link to this

Very good, li’l andy. Your found it. You found Bush talking about how Saddam is bad to his people. In paragraphs 41 and 42 of his 47 paragraph speech.

So you’re telling me that what today he trots out as his number 1 reason for invasion he did not bother getting to until he was ~80% done with his speech?

Thank you li’l andy and RW for continuing to help me prove my point. I would have never bothered to dig up this speech, thank you for your help.

By Buy Danish

June 20, 2006 02:25 PM | Link to this

I have not mentioned sex on this board, so, honey, please get some treatment.

Rushcap,

Really? That’s funny because I noticed a diatribe from you on the very subject the other day, but was unable to respond at the time because of the AJC curfew.

I don’t have time today to search the archives, but trust me - you are either lying (something you love to accuse every one you don’t agree with of doing) or just plain forgetful.

By @@

June 20, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

It must be the capitalization of the first letter in a name that indicates respect. O.K., it’s “r” from now on since he “rushncap” is lower-case.

So let’s see now. R.W. is into reading comprehension and lower-case “r”ushncap is still into mind reading. Got it!

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

Sorry rushncap,

No compromise because, as usual, I am right on both counts. Sucks to be you, doesn’t it?

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

Dusty — I know this will never fit inside your tiny head, but there are more ways to look at the world than “Either Bush is great and Saddam is evil, or vice versa”. I will not bother telling you what those are, it’s a waste of time.

Mike, Bush certainly knew that the intelligence was flimsy, at the very best. He certainly knew that Iraq posed zero threat to the U.S. So, yes, he certainly lied. I told you why the commission found that he did not. Republicans control all of the government. And please, you never listened to Kerry or Clinton before, how is it that now when your boy has royally screwed the pooch they become experts?

By Ingi

June 20, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

Why does rushncap always talk about screwing the pooch?

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

RW — I’d pity you, but I’m pretty sure you’re far too ignorant to be unhappy. So… whatever helps you get through the day, dear.

@@ — I have no idea what you’re talking about.

Danish — my “sex diatribe” merely stated that we live in a Puritan country where the act of making love is a far more egregious violation of community standards than the act of decapitation. And I’m not the one who brought up the topic.

By Buy Danish

June 20, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

RW,

I believe that if you told rushncap that the sun was shining today he’d tell you that you were lying, and in the snottiest possible tone he would find a tiny wisp of a rain cloud somewhere over the State of Georgia, pull a “gotcha!” and claim victory.

It really must suck to be him.

By Mike

June 20, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

rushncap, your arguement on how Bush lied is filled with holes. You ASSUME he knew the intel was flismy. If so, then everyone else in the world intel community knew it was flimsy too and just didn’t say anything. There were two INDEPENDENT commissions done and both found no evidence of manipulating the intel. You are right I have never listend to Kerry because he is a typical politician, sold out to special interests. As for Clinton, I did listen because he was my president and deserved at least that much respect from me. And Bush isn’t my boy, just so you know, however I refuse to let people post flat out lies like you tend to do.

By Jay not jay

June 20, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Is this a fact or just your opinion?

“Bush certainly knew that the intelligence was flimsy, at the very best. He certainly knew that Iraq posed zero threat to the U.S. So, yes, he certainly lied”

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

What kind of weird new standard says you can’t be held accountable for anything you say if someone else brought up the subject?

Sounds like that standard you reserve for yourself certainly exonerates President Bush. A person could get really dizzy trying to keep up with your constant spin.

By Deaf Or Dumb?

June 20, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this

rushncrap: For eleven years solid you liberals were the ones talking WMD in Iraq, only when it became politically expedient did you forget all about that. He was outlining your beef with Saddam, fighting your fight. Something you could supposedly understand.

And why, or even where does it say, that you have to have only one reason when you go to war? Is this like the AJC “fair use” rules, just made up as we go?

I sure don’t remember Bush saying WMD was the only reason he invaded. That’s why you had to read all the way to paragraph 43.

By Billy

June 20, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this

Its a cartoon about the braves people…..did someone point and click the wrong button for this blog?

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Around rushncap it’s always raining, but you’re right about what he would say and how. If it was you or @@ or Dusty though he would get extra nasty and probably change into one of his wifebeater shirts.

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

No, Mike, I don’t “assume”. First of all, every intel analyst since the war has said the intel was flimsy. And no one disputes the famous Bush “Is that the best you got?” to Tenet, not even Bush. This is not assumption. This is fact. So no, I’m not lying. I’m merely paying attention.

Jay: it is my opinion. The only 2 options are that he knew the intel was flimsy or he has the IQ of a grapefruit. Since he is, unfortunately, my President, I’m giving him the benefit of a doubt here.

By @@

June 20, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

Lower Case “r”ushncap:

I guess it’s that reading comprehension problem. Maybe I can help here.

Mike said: Two independent commissions have concluded that Bush didn’t lie and that no administration official applied pressure to any CIA officials.

Lower-case “r”ushncap replied:

Of course the comission found that, Mike. What, were you expecting them to find the obvious truth? Please! It would be too big a bombshell, it would never be allowed by the party that controlls the whole government.

Maybe somebody can define “independent” for you Lower-case “r”ushncap, would that help?

By rushncap

June 20, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this

Well, apparently all of you (@@, li’l andy, RW, Danish, Dusty) have run out of actual facts, and have decided to simply gang up on me. I’m done for now. I have no hope that I actually got through to any of you (that requires for you to think and analyze, which is like asking an ostrich to fly), but at least I shut all of you up for a bit.

Lata, gators! Keep them tinfoil hats on.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Thanks Billy! The Braves are having a rough stretch. Happy?

rushncap,

My 2:45 should have been directed to you.

By Let's Talk About A Hanging

June 20, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

Billy: The cartoon is about a suicide, we are not that morbid. Maybe you libs get your kicks that way, we don’t.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

I guess if Billy wants us to talk sports how about picking out your favorite Dallas Maverick? I always thought there were only twelve.

By @@

June 20, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

Well drat! Mike got there before me.

Well never let it be said @@ doesn’t try to be helpful.

Damn, now I’m gonna have to help Lower-case “r”ushncap with the word “said”. Nevermind, I know his definition. “If Bush “said” it, it’s defined as a “lie”. If Lower-case “r”ushncap “said” it, it is defined as “unquestionable truth”.

OkeyDonkey!

By Dusty

June 20, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

I don’t want your instructions on how to lie. I prefer the truth, something you are not able to recognize. You revel in lies, not dissent. Please keep your promise of not wasting your time on me. I shall do the same. I do not want to be associated with you in any shape, form or word.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

And rushncap flips the victim card on the table and runs home to Mommy. Why does it always end that way?

By Onaje Salim

June 20, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

The cartoon is funny and appropriate with one glaring exception. Suicide is the 3rd leading cause of death for young people between the ages of 15 to 19 in the United States. Boys are 5 times more likely than girls to complete suicide. The Braves will win again and join the ranks of the successful franchises. However those who commit suicide, approximately 1 every 90 minutes, will not have the opportunity to “bounce back”. it is difficult to fathom what message Lukovich was attempting to send by trivializing such an important public health problem.

By Jay not jay

June 20, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

This cartoon depicts the lib mentality. The gloom and doom in everything. I sure hope ml wins that Pulitzer again next year.

By Billy

June 20, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this

I took it as the bull pen being lynched by braves fans……..even if it is about suicide what does that have to do with the never ending debate about Iraq.

By gadem

June 20, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

Let’s see everything is normal here…Andy’s personalities are in full swing, RW is giving him the reach around and Joke never answered my question.

Thanks for answering the question Mike. To that I will reply that there are worse dictators in the world. Let’s look at Iran for one, who I believe was far more advanced than Iraq. But you believe what you believe.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this

Jay not jay,

Apparently running a Braves cartoon, no matter that he trivializes suicide, wasn’t enough for ml today. Now he’s posted a wild eyed screed about President Bush running around torturing the handicapped.

By Daniel

June 20, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

rushncap: You got it all wrong, pal. The Braves are in first, Maddox has been pitching well for them, and Aaron is going to get 50 homers this year! Anyone who doesn’t agree is unAmerican!

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this

gadem,

Do you think for one second you are fooling anyone with that line about identifying a different danger and acting on it? Even if you claimed to back action against Iran we know you would be demanding that we surrender two months later while you claimed that either a) you didn’t support it to begin with or b) you were lied to.

There is a very well founded reason that you guys aren’t trusted when it comes to important issues like national security.

By Billy

June 20, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this

Im offended that he trivializing the Braves woa’s as it is a great indicator on my mood for the day……..

Mabey some of you can answer a question for me weather your a Liberal or Conservetive (please dont correct my spelling….’cuz i dont care). Why do people take offence at almost everything and expect an apology becase it offended them. If you do take offence at his cartoon think about it this way, (I still dont think its about suicide)he achieved a goal that he may have intentionally had or not had. He got people to talk about it. Oh yeah……talking leads to communication which probably would correct 90% of the worlds problems.

I dirgress, who cares if it is about suicide or not….he was making a point about the braves struggles thats it if you offended thats ok…..if you feel the need to vent in the blog that ok……if feel the need to yell at the world thats ok too. But dont expect him to apoligize for using the same right you have on expressing you objections.

By Not Buyin It

June 20, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

Your exurberant anti-American lies are about as low as Americans can get.

I might say the same about you, Dusty. Here’s a clue for you: TRUTH, as in what really did happen, is completely independent of your belief system, or anyone else’s. Why do you insist on pretending your feelings somehow affect truth?

Asking for truth, and exposing lies, does not make someone un-American. But in my opinion, punishing enlisted personnel for following orders, or making do without them, while the criminals at the top ranks remain unaccountable, exemplifies the complete antithesis of “support the troops.” In addition to being sent to war with no viable plan, GOOD soldiers find themselves in a variety of BAD situations, receiving blame that they don’t deserve. But keep shilling for the architects of this ugly mess, Dusty. Will Rumsfeld and Cheney be sharing their fortunes with you down the road, while they suck on their cuban cigars and sip their $500 bottles of Scotch, completely unindicted and unaccountable for the lives they’ve destroyed?

By Cindy

June 20, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

I sure am curious about the “two” commissions Mike referred to that supposedly said Bush didn’t lie. I can’t find either one. Oh, I can find a commission report on intelligence failures, but it was specifically NOT authorized to look at how policy makers use the information. Also, there is an Iraq commission established by Bush, but they didn’t even look into how he used the information.

Remember all. David Kay who was a boots on the ground inspector in Iraq said they had no WMD. Why did the administration choose to ignore their own man? The current inspectors on the ground in 2003 also said there was no WMD, so what was the great intelligence that was contrary to the inspectors’ reporting??? THERE WAS NONE!!!

By Dusty

June 20, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

gaDIM,

Still trying to pop the question? Forget it. Try playing Trivial Pursuit. Your whole pursuit is certainly trivial. Face it. You’re a loser.

By Daniel

June 20, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

RW: America was lied to. Everyone concedes the “intelligence” relied upon by our government was false. Now, either we blundered or overlooked the truth. Here’s my point: Either draft an Army capable of getting the job done or get out! I have a friend. Her son is about to start his 3rd tour! Either mobilize the nation against the “War on Terror” or get out! Sleaze bag politicians, both party’s mind you, have no problem sending other people’s kids to die. Haditha is predictable. Another Haditha is inevitable. Send our troops into an impossible war, you get a horrible result. The politicians killed those kids at Haditha.The nation is being lied to. That’s why I can’t support this war.

By @@

June 20, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

I’m just now catching up at the top of the board and the news. Please don’t think that this question is to score political points, it’s not.

According to the Houston Chronicle, they make it sound as though the two soldiers possibly surrendered? They were attacked by seven hooded men. If they didn’t put up a fight like AntiR ^^^ would have done, what does that mean. Maybe they were overcome by force? I don’t know, but regardless…this enemy is barbaric, lacking compassion or any sense of decency. What would they be free to do to their own people if we left?

I can’t identify with that kind of hatred. Their families must be devastated by the details and the loss.

By gadem

June 20, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

Hey Joke, pursuit this

By Nucular

June 20, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Once again, Freedom and Democracy are on thee march in Eyerock. Mission accomplished! Victory is ours! God bless Murcuh.

By Cindy

June 20, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this

Daniel, You are so right. Folks it can either be lies or incompetence; there are no other choices. Pick your lesser of two evils. Why would anyone support incompetence or lies? If you had only been as forgiving of Clinton for his lie, at least he wasn’t incompetent. And yes, it is a done deal; we are at war and we can only hope for the best. But I still can’t support a president who has done so much damage to this great nation. It will take years to reverse the damage done by Bush and I can’t understand why people still support it; they are like the audience at the Roman colliseum cheering on the maiming and murdering and destruction. They are like those who enjoyed the leader’s fiddling while Rome burned.

By Jay not jay

June 20, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this

David Kay said:

“Sen. [Edward] Kennedy knows very directly. Senator Kennedy and I talked on several occasions prior to the war that my view was that the best evidence that I had seen was that Iraq indeed had weapons of mass destruction.

I would also point out that many governments that chose not to support this war — certainly, the French president, [Jacques] Chirac, as I recall in April of last year, referred to Iraq’s possession of WMD.

The Germans certainly — the intelligence service believed that there were WMD.

By Joe Roman

June 20, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

After waiting all day and dodging selection for jury duty, it was fun to come home to Mike’s cartoon about something REALLY important. Seriously folks, remember the old refrain. Let’s root, root, root for the home team. If they don’t win it’s a shame.”.

By Daniel

June 20, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

gadem: There’s your War! The pro-Bush press is trapped. They are forced to print crap favorable to the War. The suckers lap it up. In truth, none of these people would send one of their family to this war. Bush gets his photo-op. Others die. Rove is full of sht. His fat a* never served and never will. I have a friend who works for a contractor there; she says it’s chaos, anarchy and war everywhere! Democracy on the frog-march. Great link! They know the truth. But, the suckers need the BS.

By Scooter

June 20, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

Should’ve left it in the hands of the honorable UN, after all; while they were there they saw no human rights violations and Saddam was winning elections by 98 percent, so honorable? Oh yeah, I forgot Syria and Cuba sat on the Human Rights Council at that time, so honorable?

The introduction of the Oil-For-Food program (OFF) in late 1996 was a key turning point for the Regime. OFF rescued Baghdad’s economy from a terminal decline created by sanctions. The Regime quickly came to see that OFF could be corrupted to acquire foreign exchange both to further undermine sanctions and to provide the means to enhance dual-use infrastructure and potential WMD-related development.

By Cindy

June 20, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

@@

Another good point. The Bush administration has made such a mess in Iraq that we can’t leave. It would be like the first Bush, encouraging an uprising, then letting the Iraqis take the punishment. Neither Bush was very smart.

And gadem, Are you trying to show the FACT that women under Hussein had more freedom than those under the Bush occupancy?

Whatever happens there, in the end, I doubt it will be as secular as it was before the invasion or allow women as much freedom. I am hoping this new Iraqi leader proves me wrong. There truly are Iraqs whose lives are going to be worse off than before the invasion, so neo’s get your head out of the clouds and look at reality. It is a sad fact, but true, that somewhere, somehow, for someone there will be a failure of freedom in Iraqi. Add that to the other stack of losses to see if the investment was really that smart or profitable for the USA. No WMD, no Bin Laden (he resented Iraq’s secularism), no highjackers.

By Joe Roman

June 20, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

One other thing: Who’s to say the guy hanging committed suicide? if you read some of the stuff posted on Dave O’Brien’s Braves Beat Blog, the depiction could be of somebody who’s been lynched.

By GodHatesTrash

June 20, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

You bloodthirsty cretins should get to the airport and buy a one-way ticket to Baghdad.

If you get your heads chopped off, no great loss - you’re a bunch of cowardly brainless heartless morons anyway.

Bunch of loudmouthed punk cowards. Chickensheet chickenhawks.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

I bet those rape rooms were just the highlight of those Iraqi womens days, you think?

By Daniel

June 20, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this

Haditha shoves the truth in their faces. The liberation and democracy crap is for the suckers. What Iraqi would believe we’re their to help? Our marines shot those children in their heads. What do you call this? The Catholic Church opposes this war; as do the protestant churches. You dumbbells who support this war should strap one on and get over there. Tell us where your christianity is when it is a bullet into the back of a childs head?

By Buy Danish

June 20, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

my “sex diatribe” merely stated that we live in a Puritan country where the act of making love is a far more egregious violation of community standards than the act of decapitation.

Rushcap,

Backpedaling a bit? Rushcap, that statement is perfectly ludicrous, just like your opinions on just about everything.

Believe me, nobody gives a damn what you do in private, as long as you don’t try to “share” it with us.

By @@

June 20, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Well Cindy, you could have just said “We can’t leave, it would be a mess for the Iraqi people.”

But then I know how important all that other stuff is to you. It’s the hindsight that allows you to place blame. I’ve never been able to identify with that either.

My point was, we can’t leave those Iraqis wanting freedom to the oppressive, barbaric radical islamists who enjoy killing their own today, and enjoyed killing their own in the past. But thanks for calling it a “good point”, I’ll leave the rest to your speculative thought which is totally void of pragmatism.

By Dusty

June 20, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

So..God Hates Trash aka mclark???

Now joins the three stooges Dimmy, Cindy and Dan who try to outdo each other over whacking those conservatives. Hey, let’s get those conservatives ‘cause they support the troops, the country and the president.

But, the sky is falling. Another leaked, secret memo has found its way into sticky liberal hands. Now we know that women are finding their place in a new democracy with a few worries. The secret, leaked memo said so. Therefore the sky is falling is absolutely cross-my-heart true.

Not only that, the icebergs are melting. Gore said so. Whoopee…ice water!!

By Scooter

June 20, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

Here you go Cindy, you spoke of David Kay earlier so I provided a link to Trent Duelfer’s key findings and now you can have it straight from David Kay’s “boots on the ground” inspecting experience

According to Kay, there is no denying that President Bush and his administration made a dangerous gambit in going ahead with the war, and it increasingly appears as if the justification for such action is questionable. But when intelligence is uncertain, as it so frequently is, Kay believes that the prudent leader will err on the worst possible assumption. In this case, the assumption is that Saddam Hussein would have possessed stockpiles of deadly weapons had he been left in place, and the consequences of not removing Saddam would have been catastrophic.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

Look what else David Kay had to say, and as an added bonus it comes from ml’s newest favorite source of all things truthful and good!

By Midori

June 20, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I must break the news to you: you are not funny. As a matter of fact, your “witticisms” come across as abject stupidity. YIt appears you feel compelled to come back with something, anything, and it shows. Each and every time.

You are so representative of your party. What a loathsome, snarling bunch you are; devoid of humor AND logic.

By Scooter

June 20, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

Dusty, if we could stop those “whoo pee” in the oceans, perhaps we could stop the icebergs from melting? It’s a get out the pee platform for Gore in 08?

By Midori

June 20, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

It’s so funny watching and reading the right wing flailing, grasping, groaning, moaning and just plain frantically searching for anything and everything to defend their idiotic president and his detrimental decisions.

You guys are idiots.

And you’re boring, too.

I’m outta here.

By Daniel

June 20, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

Ok, Ok. Listen up everybody: “We can’t leave those Iraqi’s wanting freedom to the oppressive barbaric… who enjoy killing their own”; and “…women are finding their place in a new democracy”. This is the height of brainwashed dumbbells spouting nonsense. Explain Haditha. Haditha is your new democracy and christianity. Bush is feeding you crap and you think it’s ice cream. You chicken-hawks don’t support the troops you support your own stupidity and illusion. Spin this: A gun is placed to the back of the head of a child while her mother watches. The trigger is pulled the child’s head splatters. Her family watches. That is the truth. Now, run from it. You did it. You support it. You want this war. Not in my name.

By Buy Danish

June 20, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

No hijackers? Well, most of them went down in flames, but what about these guys who for some reason, I just can’t imagine why, chose Baghdad as their dream destination in 2000?

And have you never heard of Salman Pak?

Don’t like Limbaugh? How about PBS/Frontline?

We could play this little evidence game forever Cindy, but you are too concerned with important issues like the travails of oppressed women in America to see reality.

By Midori

June 20, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

Before I go: Daniel, per your 5:24.

Well said!!!

Very well said!!!

they are morons. even global warming to them is some “liberal plot”.

It must truly hurt to be that bloody stupid.

By @@

June 20, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

On a lighter note. The Democrat who dropped the F-Bomb at a news conference….I say “Much ado about nothing”.

Afterall, Dick said it and I love Cheney.

Fair & Balanced!

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Any chance you are going to let the Haditha investigation run it’s course. You don’t have the first damn clue that what you are saying is true and you probably don’t even care.

Go after me or the politicians all you want, but let our Marines at least have the benefit of reasonable doubt. I usually enjoy your ranting, but you are really stepping over the line with your version of Haditha and the lynch mob you are trying to form. America doesn’t operate on your accuse ‘em and string ‘em up system, bud.

By I Disagree

June 20, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

Dusty: Compared to Midori’s raging psychopathic rants you are a veritable Mark Twain. I know that’s not saying much but trust me your witticism is a welcome edition to any conversation.

By Whining Little Terrorist

June 20, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

I’m usually not one to suggest censorship but Daniel really needs to STFU with the marines shooting babies in the head act. This is the terrorist’s, the ones who are really killing babies, version of events, so I know why this filthy little piece of sh-it is saying what he is saying, but still, give it a rest.

You’re not in your homeland, mohamed, this is America.

By Dusty

June 20, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this

Oh, misery, despair, and all those things. MIDORI doesn’t like my postings. She says she does not turn into Minnie-haha after reading them. Oh, unbearable grief.

On second thought, if Midori doesn’t like them, they must be GOOD!!! As Scooter suggested, I may go help Gore with his campaign slogans. Actually, I think Scooter is better at those slogans and adds more whoopee.

But, Midori would be there kicking me in the shins if I help Gore. Not to mention Dimmy, Cindy and Dan.

But I will carry on: SUPPORT THE TROOPS, THE COUNTRY AND THE PRESIDENT. Yayyy!!!

By @@

June 20, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry RW, but did you just ask for something “reasonable” from Daniel? Can I expect that? I’ll be watching for it, but I really hate being disappointed time and time again by Daniel.

A milder hysteria would be acceptable though. But then it always seems to escalate to full-blown hysteria in a relatively short amount of time.

I’m patient.

By Daniel

June 20, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

The marines admitted it! The USA paid $2500 per dead body. You, each one of you, needs the illusion. You need the photo-op. You need to be fed the BS. Get on the ground. Get real. Look at war for what it is. Anything else is cowardice.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

@@,

Daniel was reasonable one time already, so I wouldn’t be expecting much.

I don’t know about your f-word Democrat, but I would point out that Cheney dropped his f-bomb in a private conversation and directly to the object of his derision man to man.

By Ruoivas de la Luz

June 20, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

This blog makes the baby Jesus cry.

By 135 Words, O.K?

June 20, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

But Zarqawi was a figure the U.S. government stumbled upon, rather than raised up. A lone State Department official noticed an NSA intercept of a phone call from Zarqawi, who was in Iraq, to one of the assassins of USAID diplomat Lawrence Foley. (Foley was murdered in his driveway in Amman, Jordan in
2002). Zarqawi was congratulating the killer. The official, whom we have interviewed, said he then began to wonder who Zarqawi was. (The NSA wasn’t tracking Zarqawi at the time, but was tracing those who phoned the assassins to find out if there was a new group targeting diplomats. There was: Zarqawi’s.) Then he noticed that Zarqawi was an al Qaeda operative and that he made the phone call from Iraq—more than a year before the Iraq war began.- Weekly Standard

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Would you like to back up that statement that the Marines admitted to shooting babies in the head in cold blood?

I know you won’t be able to so go f*** yourself you pos loser.

@@,

Does that count as an inadvertent slip of the f-word?

By Vatican Lectures

June 20, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this

Point of order: The Baby Jesus is supposed to cry or he wouldn’t be a healthy, normal baby. You wouldn’t want Jesus to have died from Sudden Savior Death syndrom, would you? No, you wouldn’t. Nor would I. Nor would anyone who knew what was good for the planet. It was that rat Herod all along. He tried to deep six the baby Jesus by bribing the wisemen to put 3 cats in the holy crib to suck the breath out of him. But he failed, because frankensense and myhrr act like catnip and distracted the cats, and not only that, but Mary was allergic to cats hair and she had Joseph drown the cats. And thus mankind was saved…….

By Buy Danish

June 20, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

VL,

Why don’t you run for Congress as a Dem? You sound like their perfect candidate, and you already know what point of order means, so I say -

Go for it!!

By George

June 20, 2006 06:30 PM | Link to this

So another 2 Americans are butchered and beheaded in Iraq. Big deal. How dare a single one of you Repug chickenhawks express surprise or anger! It is all of your doing. Never forget that. Stand proud.

By Val

June 20, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

RW. What a typical wingnut class act you are.
Living proof.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 06:42 PM | Link to this

Val,

Sorry that you think standing up for the United States Marine Corps is a despicable thing. I’m glad they don’t feel that way about your rights.

By Spike

June 20, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this

VL: you ‘re the best thing to hit this blog since it opened. The usual freaks attacking you is to be expected. You done brought wisdom and humor and other “stuff.” Your ability to talk bout de Baby Jesus shows you were…there! So was I, but I knew him as “De Nazz.” He’d lay them sweet golden eyes of love on you and…BAM!! Everything was cool. Carry on, VL.

By finch

June 20, 2006 08:17 PM | Link to this

Bluster all you want about the veracity of the Washington Times. I mean the Moonie Times. The fact remains that this alleged news story in that alleged newspaper was a hit piece:

Democrats call Zarqawi killing a stunt

The headline falsely suggests that Democrats in Congress joined together to ridicule the Zarq-man’s demise. The story (and others) quotes only one Democrat (Pete Stark) who even remotely questions the killing. And he does not use the word stunt.

Plugged nickel journalism at it’s best. I mean worst.

Do you want to know more about how Moonie Times owner Sun Myung Moon and his newspaper pay only lip service to the USA while they focus on their prime directive (the welfare of “Reverend” Moon)?

Click here

Click on the links within this link! Learn more about how this non-American convicted felon who thinks he’s better than Christ has shown more contempt for his “adopted country” than all other media moguls in the US combined! Why, he makes Rupert Murdoch look like Paul Revere!

The news agenda and editorial philosophy of the Moonie Times have nothing to do with patriotism or “conservative values”. They are Trojan horses. They have everything to do with the protection and advancement of the “Reverend” Moon himself.

Suck, thanks for flagging your propaganda links with the Moonie Times ID. Keep it up! It saves sleepy or careless readers the pain of actually reading all that un-American snot.

By General Seeker Retaliates!

June 20, 2006 08:35 PM | Link to this

What Stark said was a stunt.

Case closed.

For that matter, just for your future Puffington Host derived hysterical reference, when Filthy Mouth Murtha, Kerry or any number of gasbag liberals open their traps it can be correctly labeled a “stunt.”

The truth hurts, obviously.

How about some fake national guard documents, got any of those, huh, huh?

Amateur.

You need fire before you have smoke, fool.

By @@

June 20, 2006 09:25 PM | Link to this

RW:

I apologize for the delay. I’ve been resetting bricks around the pool, but I had a window open.

It didn’t look like an inadvertent slip of the f-word to me. It was direct and well timed.

Now when it comes to the accusations by Daniel of the marines in Haditha, it would appear that he is definitely afflicted with that “premature problem” that some men suffer from when I think about the f’ing-word.

Daniel:

My advice…don’t rush things…just relax and quit banging your noggin on the headboard in your frustration.

By RW-(the original)

June 20, 2006 09:47 PM | Link to this

@@,

Good! I wanted it to be direct and to the person it was directed to, just like Cheney with Leahy. Too bad it got Val’s panties in a knot, but it’s pretty obvious she was selectively reading anyway.

finch,

While you’re complaining about the Washington Times and how they lack the credibility of finch approved sources, you may want to point out that the headline that has you in the same condition as Val never ran in the print edition. Would you like to tell us that an overzealous headline is never written on the web page of your All-American finch approved New York Times or Washington Post?

So far in your tirade that the Washington Times is on some anti-American cult crusade, which has been going on for months, all you can come up with is one first draft story headline that didn’t meet your approval and the fact that the editorial page is conservative. I know you libs nod and tell each other how brilliant your every utterance is at parties and on your private blogs, but in the real world you have to back up your accusations.

By Warmongers Inc.

June 21, 2006 05:34 AM | Link to this

From the Embassy, a Grim Report (Washington Post)

Hours before President Bush left on a surprise trip last Monday to the Green Zone in Baghdad for an upbeat assessment of the situation there, the U.S. Embassy in Iraq painted a starkly different portrait of increasing danger and hardship faced by its Iraqi employees. This cable, marked “sensitive” and obtained by The Washington Post, outlines in spare prose the daily-worsening conditions for those who live outside the heavily guarded international zone: harassment, threats and the employees’ constant fears that their neighbors will discover they work for the U.S. government.

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CONFIDENTIAL MEMO FROM: US Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, Baghdad TO: Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State SUBJECT: SNAPSHOTS FROM THE OFFICE SENSITIVE

Full text of diplomatic cable

This is what happens when you lie.

By TSquared

June 21, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

Lighten up on the cartoon. It is meant to put things in both a more serious and less serious light- that is the whole point.

Lewis Grizzard would be ashamed of all these complainers. Of course, they would probably be calling for his head as well.

By Ralph

June 22, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

To me It means in simple terms that the Braves are hanging by a threat. Which they are. The Braves hanging themselves, don’t believe me watch their game. Luckovich cartoon is excellent way of describing the Braves “Down in the dumps” should have been title “Down in the toilet”. There nothing funny about suicide, of a person or organization. The cartoon simply describe the lack of effort and the present realistic attitude of the Braves players, who simply act like they don’t care, if they lose or forfeit the game. It also shows Bobby Cox , who doesn’t have the sightless idea on what time it is, or where he’s at and is completely indifferent about what’s taking place with the players and it’s organization. The people who read something else into this cartoon, other than then the attitude of a failing organization, don’t know what’s going on and are making a lot more then what it is. No it won’t be the end of the world if the Braves lose every game from here on, not to non-baseball person or die hard fans. It simply means the end of a once great organization the Atlanta Braves that hang itself by not listing to its fans.