Mike Luckovich

By JP

June 15, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

%(*%&!&!% Gas prices!

He should have one more bubble with a guy saying “But look! Gay athiests!”

Blog and Tan

By George

June 15, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

Don’t worry, Andy will be here any minute to spew forth his daily drivel.

By George

June 15, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

They must have had to make that helmet special for W and his W ears.

By The Moderate Voice

June 15, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

George, don’t worry Midori will be right behind Andy.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this

George,

You do realize this isn’t a photograph right?

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this

Good one, Lucko — Bush also needs to keep his profile very low in America these days. Even the Repugs are keeping their distance — you know, the fumes are unbearable.

By Play that funky music white boy

June 15, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

Unreal, I beat Andy on here! Great toon, but he should have had our “Round Mound of a Governor” on that chopper with him cancelling school again. Anyone else concerned that the taxpayers may lose in this election big time unless Kathy Cox wins? I mean, we know what kind of strain Sonny has put on us by trying to feed him in the mansion, but if “Pork Chop” Taylor wins, we may have to find new revenue sources to feed him for four years. Vote Cox, the only candidate under 300lbs.

By Patriotic Foreskin

June 15, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

. Ever notice the guys filling up their huge SUV’s that get only 10 miles per gallon are the ones who clank the gas pump nozzle against the side of the fuel intake trying to get every single drop? clank clank clank clankity clank clank clank clankclank.

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this

Bear spotted near Perimeter Mall

Is this another media frenzy like the “shark attacks” of 2001?

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this

Funky Music, I believe you mean “Cathy Cox” with a “C” — the other Kathy with a “K” is not one you want to be promoting. I believe she was the one in the Dept. of Ed. involved with putting the anti-evolution stickers on GA textbooks…

By George

June 15, 2006 08:33 AM | Link to this

Yes RW, it is a toon and it accurately shows what will happen when W’s popularity gets in the teens.

By Mike

June 15, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this

Only intellectually dishonest foolsreally blame Bush for oil prices. This is another example fo AJC “journalists” pandering to people’s ignorance in the interest of political gain.

By The Moderate Voice

June 15, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this

George, lets be honest here at least. Bush ratings while in the tank are on the up tick over the past couple of weeks. The chances of him(or any President) ever hitting the teens are not likely due to the partisanship that exists in this country. At least 25% of the country will support a President just becuase he is from their party. This was proven during the Clinton fiasco and again right now.

By Play that funky music white boy

June 15, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

Hahah… Goldie you are correct, and I wouldn’t want to feed Kathy with a “K” either! Sorry Cathy, what a state we live in. Anyone out there know that Cathy Cox’s husband’s name is Mark Dailor - I’m not making this up! She is truly the name challenged candidate. But at least she doesn’t have her own gravitational pull like “Sonny Did” and “The Big Guy”.

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Who here is in favor of weaning ourselves off the Big Oil t!t and developing more self-sustaining fuel sources here in America? Say Aye!

By The Moderate Voice

June 15, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this

Goldie, everyone is in favor of that.

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

I happen to like the Big Guy myself. He’s been a speaker at some of my girl-power meetings in Atlanta and is supportive of women’s issues that we’re dealing with in GA. Cathy Cox has yet to accept our offer to speak — why is that?

By G. W. Bush

June 15, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

I am Goldie. Thanks for your support.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 15, 2006 08:55 AM | Link to this

Moderate Voice,

The Clinton “fiasco” was hardly similar to Bush’s problems right now. Sure, Clinton’s popularity dipped, but the majority of the country saw his problems for what they were- his problems. Now the county has six years of sharp decline under Bush, thousands needlessly killed, and from the indications from inflation, it looks like the economy may be getting worse, not better. Bush’s ratings have risen slightly from his low of 29%, but the polls that came out this morning (which were taken post-Zarqawi death) show no bounce whatsoever, between 33% and 37%. If Bush doesn’t get a bounce from the best news to come out of Iraq in years, he’s in real trouble and the Republicans in congress who are up for re-election are in even more.

By George

June 15, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

Moderate Voice, So far W has defied all odds starting when he was elected with a less than a majority of the popular vote. Polls go up and polls go down. Right now he is on an uptick because of some good manufactured PR. People do get tired of that and expect results after a while that’s why he is in the thirties now.

How low can he go? I don’t know. Sounds like a perfect subject for the Las Vegas bookies

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

Who here is in favor of Congress spending their time discussing America’s need for developing fuel sources and weaning ourselves from the Big Oil industry, which will only strengthen our fight against terrorist-supporting countries? Say Aye!

By gadem

June 15, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

Goldie, you mean have them talking about something that will help the American people rather than Gay Marriage and Terri Schiavo? That is not going to fly….they will find another wedge issue.

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

George— W’s presidency has all been PR stunts. Even his development of the Dept. of Homeland Security to protect us from “terrrrr” has been a total disaster… God help America!

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this

Who here is in favor of Congress discussing all issues that come before them and not trying to micro-manage private industry?

By Play that funky music white boy

June 15, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this

Goldie, here is a “non-loaded” (I promise no agenda here except to hear your opinion) question for you. Why would any female candidate ever have to come out supporting “women’s issues”? Isn’t it just assumed she would be in favor of promoting women’s health, equal pay for equal work, etc, etc.? I’m just curious what your take is on this. Do you see the Big Guy (I like him and Cathy both, I just like picking on him and Sonny - stereotypical fat southern politico’s) as being more sensitive to women’s issues than Cathy Cox would be?

By SarahConnah

June 15, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

President Resident Evil returned from his stealthy Iraq photo-op with two brilliant observations; “It’s a dangerous place!” and “It’s hot!” Puleeeeze! Then calls on a blind journalist and cides him for wearing ‘shades’. He is sooooo cool. Am I the only one embarassed that this clown walks the earth represented as the “Leader of the Free World”? Curtsie!

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 15, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

At yesterday’s press conference Bush said that his Republicans have “a record to run on”! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! A record of failure, mistakes, lies, corruption, war, immorality, bankruptcy, bigotry, etc. Let’s hope the voters cast their ballots based on their record.

By AntiRadical

June 15, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

Good toon ML; wedding the President’s trip to Iraq with the high cost of gas is inspired.

GWB and his crew are surely trying to refocus the minds of the electorate on the Iraq effort. His disconnect from and inability to address the real concerns of American voters (energy costs, mounting inflation, stagnant earnings, and the illegal immigrant situation) have left him with no other option.

Reps are firmly entrenched in Fantasyland if they think that a majority of Americans will embrace Iraq over their more immediate concerns of daily living. What do you care more about; if you have enough money to fill your tank so you can get to work the rest of this week, or who did what to whom on a piece of sand half-way around the world?

In America, people are driven by the mundane demands of continued survival at this point. Altruistic monumental efforts to bring freedom to a people who likely do not want it are far from the priority of most Americans. After all, the Iraqi people did not care enough about their own freedom to overthrow Saddam Hussein, we did so for our own benefits, not their’s, and they know it!

By ALSandy

June 15, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this

Andy is having an alternative lifestyle encounter with MikeT this morning. I am sure that he will be here shortly.

By The Moderate Voice

June 15, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Those of you who try and tie Bush to the Congressional elections are going to be sadly mistaken come election time. Like Tip O’Neil said “All politics are local.” That was proven in the California 50th, immigration was the key issue not Bush. I think that Dems will make some gains, but I don’t see them taking over Congress. When asked about the Dems plans for Iraq yesterday, Charles Schummer said “We are moving in a different direction, we just don’t know what that direction is yet.” If you are going to try and run on being strong on national security, then you might want to have a plan.

By getalife

June 15, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Check out the fear in their eyes

A little taste of the monster they created.

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

Are any of y’all having trouble posting to this clunker of a blog? I’ve been getting “website is unavailable” messages both yesterday and today. I don’t know if it’s my PC or what…

By getalife

June 15, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

RW,

I still like Clinton’s plan of shutting down Congress. Did you see they gave themselves another raise?

Of course Clinton made $7.5 million on speeches and wonder how much W will make? LOL.

By AntiMike

June 15, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

No Mike. Nobody blames GW for setting these prices. Only for setting the energy policy that allows it to happen. And until a responsible administration sets policy that encourages them to increase refining capacity the prices will continue to rise. Mike and the other GW apoligists of your ilk are the true fools. You’d follow the Pied Piper right off a cliff. Face it Mike. America was alot better off under the last guy.

By Dusty

June 15, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

Luckovich had to think hard how to twist this one around. The Iraqis were pleased to see the President. The military were delighted. Most Americans were pleased at the signs of progress made in Iraq and the President’s support.

But a small faction of American ingrates and political activists like Luckovich, Goldie,etc. try to drag in that tired old Bush did it! over gas prices.

Oh yes. The same old political litany—just swap the subject around whenever necessary. And you always know who is saying it: the tired old losers of the far left.

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

I’ve tried to post my reply to you, Funky Music, twice already and have had trouble this morning. So I apologize if this ends up being a repeat, but here’s my reply to you:

I do like both candidates myself also. And I’m sure that Ms. Cox is well-aware of the issues women face in the state of GA, with the constant chipping away of our right to controlling our own reproductive decisions, etc. And I’ve also heard from some Dem friends that she is clarifying her former reasons on why she thought it was so important to bring the Diebold voting machines to GA so quickly in 2002. But it would be nice to hear from her in person, and maybe that will happen before the GA primary, and to be able to ask her questions about her position. I will certainly support her if she wins the primary, but right now my vote is with the Big Guy.

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

Sarah— I think about 66% of Americans are embarrassed, too, by this administration. We’ve lost our standing in the world as moral leaders due to all that’s happened in the last 5 years. It will probably take decades for America to build itself back up both morally and financially.

By AntiMike

June 15, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this

AntiMike -

Like all liberals, you want to blame individuals for broad general trends.

The massive increase in oil prices has a lot more to do with increased demand from India and China than it does with any Bush policy.

You don’t learn that from reading the AJC because they want you to think that everything that makes lazy Americans uncomfortable is the personal fault of Bush. Liberals can keep beleiving such nonsense, while conservatives will continue to run the country. Thanks for your ignorance.

By Charley Parker

June 15, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

This is off topic to this particular cartoon, but I don’t see a provision for general comments and I wanted to let Mike know that he is the topic of the featured post today on the lines and colors art, cartooning and illustration blog - permalink here.

By Dusty

June 15, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

AntiRad,

You’ve been watching too many survival shows. Your statementAmericans are driven by the mundane demands of continued survival flies in the face of our true state. Americans are not scrambling to survive. In fact, people all over the world are scrambling to come here and enjoy the freedom and largess we enjoy.

How pathetic that some Americans are exclaiming and crying that we are a miserable bunch. Then they try to say that we are out to “get” the rest of the world because we need it.

You need to count your blessings before you start your bitter oblique complaining.

By Dusty

June 15, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

To be correct, you need to change the misprint in your last sentence . I’m sure you meant “It will probably take decades for Democrats to build back up morally and financially.”

By tim

June 15, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

Smartass fratboy comment by gee whiz Bush insults all with disabilities. Including those who earned their disability on the field of battle defending his stupidity.Bush has got shades on his brain.Instead of joshing with the press he should Explain himself. Unfortunatly its too late for explanations and all the late night top secret trips in the world arent going to help now.Government of the fratboys for the fratboys.

By truthman

June 15, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this

I love all of you!!

Now, why not try to be on MY side?

-God

By Angry Liberal Guy

June 15, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this

I loved the real photograph that inspired ML’s first panel. Snow-job and Bootlick looked as if they were going to soil their pants. I love the fact that they got a tiny taste of what our troops have to endure.

By Angry Liberal Guy

June 15, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

AntiMike - I suppose our giant SUVs and this administrations aversion to conservation has nothing to do with higher demand and therefore higher prices.

By AntiRadical

June 15, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

Dusty- You probably have little contact with the poor and working class of our great nation. If you did you would understand the squeeze that they are experiencing at this point in time due to high energy costs, the specter of inflation, and diminishing coverages for medical expenses. I see it every day in the inability of many working families to pay for my services, and the losses I choose to absorb, thereby.

You exemplify the Republican party’s disconnect with the electorate and explain why Reps are more concerned with the good of the Iraqi people than that of the American people.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Do you think Jennifer Ryan is sending a nasty note to ml for stealing that copyrighted picture?

By getalife

June 15, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

RW,

I did not steal it, I borrowed it from Midori.

By Dusty

June 15, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

Anti-Rad,

I appreciate your efforts at providing medical care for all Americans even at the great cost you have had to absorb.

But you eogtistically think that no one else is exposed to the poor and working class of America. The poor and working class of America would be the elite in some parts of this world. Wages of a dollar a day or annual wages of one hundred dollars is not unheard of in some parts of the world. Did you forget that in your observations?

While we spend millions on Katrina survivors and probably more, volunteers throng to the area to help in every way possible, building homes and offering services. It is the American way.

If you want to mention personal charitable experiences, well..I have worked many summers (ten) in the hospitals of native Americans. I was paid only with the goodwill and kindness of these people, most of whom would be classified as poor.

Too bad you are not getting your full pay. Too bad you cannot realize how fortunate you are to be in this country where even the poor have healthcare.

By getalife

June 15, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

So, after W’s cowardly surprise visit to Iraq, his buddy announced this:

Amnesty for insurgents killing Americans

Wow. What an ally in the war on terror.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

getalife,

You vicious libs get away with everything. You steal err…borrow the picture, ml scribbles a copy of it, and I get the nastygram.

By The Moderate Voice

June 15, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

getalife, pretty ballsy to call the President’s visit to Iraq cowardly when you would never go yourself. It is obvious you wouldn’t by your comments or you would understand the gravity of the situation over there. Maliki is an ally in the war on terror. I don’t know if you understand this or not but he has a pretty big issue with Sunni and Shia and he is trying to get everyone on the same page. What is your plan for achieving success in Iraq or our you like most of the anti-war critics who don’t have a feasible plan.

By GodHatesTrash

June 15, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

29% of Americans still support this West Texas village idiot.

That’s a whole lotta bottomfeeders.

Bush is still strong in GA - lots of carp and suckers here…

By George

June 15, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Moderate Voice, forget the Iraqis. What is your plan for sucess in the USA.

By getalife

June 15, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

RW,

It is a good idea to make sure the picture like the one I posted are all over the internet before you post them.LOL.

Check out the moron voice asking why I am not in Iraq. LOL

Here is a clue for him. I think Mr. Murtha’s plan will be implemented because the troops are not nation builder, the police or politicians. They have done a great job and it is time for them to come home.

By Well How Do You Like This?

June 15, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

The libs have voted down domestic energy production in ANWR and the Continental Shelf consistently year after year, they overregulate the gasoline refineries making it impossible to build a new one since 1979, they won’t allow even thinking about a new nuclear power plant so we have to burn oil, gas and coal to produce electricity, their presidential front runner has made a hysterical pack of lies movie about the environmental horrors of burning oil and they want to blame Bush for high gas prices?

What are these pinkos smoking?

Or are they purposefully trying to mislead the more dense people among us, like N-GA for instance?

Do libs ever tell the truth about anything?

How does lying about it help to solve the real problems if it’s such a big concern, AntiRadical?

Or is it a big concern? It makes a great campaign issue to squeeze all those poor folks and blame Bush for it, don’t it?

By George

June 15, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

getalife, yes, get them home while you still can.

Pentagon Reports That Death Toll of U.S. Servicemen and Women Serving in Iraq Has Reached 2,500

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

getalife,

When the Iraqi’s are ready to stand up for themselves we will leave. If you want to call that Mothra’s plan go ahead. How’s that campaign for Mayor of Okinawa going for your granddad?

I know why you’re not in Iraq, but I want to know why you aren’t in our sugarcane field making us both some money.

By The Future

June 15, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

Let me close with something that I thought had the sound of the future in it. I was at a Manhattan Institute lunch this week at which Rudy Giuliani spoke. He impressed the audience of 200 or so, which was not surprising as it was his kind of group, urban-oriented thinkers drawn not to ideology but to what works and will help in the world. (I am a longtime supporter.) At one point he was asked about national education policy. Mr. Giuliani said he wanted more national emphasis on choice. He spoke of it as a civil rights issue, and told stories to illustrate the point.

Then—this is the part with the sound of the future in it—he laid out the reasons both parties have failed to push the ball forward. The Democrats fear the teachers unions and the educational establishment. The Republicans are heavily represented in and by suburban and country areas, which tend to have good schools, tend to be happy with them, and are wary of a movement they fear might take something from them. And so the students who need the most help, city kids who would benefit the most from creativity, are held captive to a failed public-education monopoly.

His candor was refreshing. Mr. Giuliani’s approach was nonpartisan in the best sense—i.e., not fuzzy but frank. It wasn’t Public schools want to be free; it was This is what will help, this is why it isn’t happening, this is why we have to make it happen. That didn’t sound like the same old same old. It didn’t sound like the past.

By Lying Liberals, As Usual

June 15, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

Now is the time to start asking whether the “massacre” at Haditha is another Jenin. Readers might remember the “Jenin massacre” from April 2002, when Israeli soldiers were accused by the Palestinian Authority of killing of thousands of innocent civilians, only for the world to learn later that the casualties were lower by orders of magnitude and that the soldiers besmirched by the press actually took extraordinary risks to clear a West Bank suicide bomb factory and avoid the kind of mass killings of which they were accused.

By getalife

June 15, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

RW,

I am trying. You know how politicians operate, alot of talk and no action.

By CC

June 15, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

Yes I do blame GWB for the gas prices. he and his administration (Cheney) met behind closed doors with Big Oil to set the energy policies of this country. If Big G and Big Oil wanted to reduce prices, they are certainly smart enough to figure out a way to do so. Instead, with the capitulation of this out-of-control administration, they are making record profits on the backs of hard working Americans.

By Zarqman's Legacy

June 15, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

Everyone who criticizes George W. Bush for not having caught or killed Osama bin Laden is now saying it doesn’t matter that Mr. bin Laden’s commander in Iraq has been killed, but let us take a sober view. At a minimum, Zarqawi’s death accomplishes three things. It disarranges the enemy’s command structure, at least temporarily. It’s not like Al Qaeda has a constitution, which lines up the Vice President, the Speaker of the House and the president pro tem of the Senate. Al Qaeda is more like The Sopranos: Who takes over if Tony gets whacked?

Zarqawi’s crossing the bar finally will please the ordinary Iraqis he has been slaughtering without mercy. As the U.S. Army and even the Iraqi Army became more difficult enemies for him to deal with, he turned to the time-tested targets of terror: bus riders, shoppers, civil servants. Iraqis spent the years of Saddam’s rule living their daily lives with a back-of-the-mind fear that they might say the wrong thing, or that their daughters might attract the roving eyes of his sons (if they were Kurds, Shiites or Marsh Arabs, of course, their fears were more immediate and concrete). Now the terrorist allies that Saddam patronized when he was in power administer the fear spastically. The criminal in his many palaces has been replaced by mere criminals. Zarqawi’s comeuppance is sweet justice, like the death of a neighborhood drug lord.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

George,

Do you sickos sit around just begging for the next round number of dead Americans to crow about? Maybe if we didn’t spend eight years detached from reality some of these problems would have been solved before President Bush was elected.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

CC,

Meeting behind closed doors to formulate an energy policy is completely meaningless because the policy had to be debated and worked out in Congress. Either you are misinformed or you are deliberately perpetuating a lie.

By Go Get Them Boys!

June 15, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

Post-al-Zarqawi Raids Kill 104 Insurgents

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) — American and Iraqi forces have carried out 452 raids since last week’s killing of terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, and 104 insurgents were killed during those actions, the U.S. military said Thursday.

Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, a U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, said the raids were carried out nationwide and led to the discovery of 28 significant arms caches.

By Al Qaeda Treasure Chest

June 15, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

“We believe that this is the beginning of the end of al-Qaida in Iraq,” al-Rubaie said, adding that the documents showed al-Qaida is in “pretty bad shape,” politically and in terms of training, weapons and media.

“Now we have the upper hand,” he said at a news conference in Baghdad. “We feel that we know their locations, the names of their leaders, their whereabouts, their movements, through the documents we found during the last few days.”

By getalife

June 15, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Spamming Andy in the house.

By Democratic Insurgents

June 15, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

Like the Sunni insurgency in Iraq, the Democrats cannot accept their minority status, even though when the GOP took over Newt Gingrich refused to impose the kind of absolute, anti-minority rule his party suffered under the Democrats. They were treated as colleagues, not serfs whose presence was to be barely tolerated. Since then, the Democrats have shown not one whit of gratitude.

Like the Sunni insurgency, the national Democrat Party and its congressional contingent has demonstrated time and again that they will willingly sacrifice the welfare and security of the American people to get their way.

By finch

June 15, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

Everyone who criticizes George W. Bush for not having caught or killed Osama bin Laden is now saying it doesn’t matter that Mr. bin Laden’s commander in Iraq has been killed

That’s the problem with the Bushbots. Mischarcterizations, stereotyping and lies.

And here they are, all in one sentence!

First, Osama wasn’t Zarqawi’s commander. If he had been, the Zark-man would have followed Osama’s orders and targetted Americans instead of Iraqis.

Second, there are a lot of “pinkos” who are glad the Zark-man’s lamenting the lack of virgins in hell, and wish Osama were with him.

Can’t BushBots tell the truth about anything*??

By @@

June 15, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

Did anyone watch the news conference by an Iraqi government representative to the U.S.? He supported and admired America’s opportunity for freedom of speech, but said that the division in this country over the war in Iraq, led Iraqis to believe that we will desert them before they are able to stand on their own.

Said a bunch of other stuff about successes in Iraq as well as the desire for freedom by the Iraqi people, but the fear of us deserting them definitely reiterated my support to stand firm in our committment to their independence.

By The Moderate Voice

June 15, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

finch you are doing the same thing you claim the “Bushbots” are doing. By grouping all conservatives into one group, you are doing exactly what you are complaining about.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

Look at finch, the undisputed heavy weight champion of misrepresentation, complaining about an opinion piece in the New York Observer and then projecting his m.o. onto everyone else.

By RE

June 15, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

If anyone gets a chance, try to catch a Colbert replay today. He has on Lynn Westmoreland from peachtree city. My goodness, you have to see it to believe it. I am wondering if the interview was cut to make Westmoreland appear that stupid, but I don’t think it is. Amazing, check it out, he is on comedy central at 2:30 and 8:30 today

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

Yeah let’s go fight the enemy where they have been trained and want to fight? Did Zarqawi see any problems with the Iraqi theater, let’s see?

What is preventing us from making a general call to arms is the fact that the country of Iraq has no mountains in which to seek refuge, or forest in which to hide. Our presence is apparent and our movement is out in the open.

Also in Zarqawi’s words it appears the lack of a plan may be working despite the politicization of the left:

But America did not come to leave, and it will not leave no matter how numerous its wounds become and how much of its blood is spilled (they obviously don’t know liberals)… There is no doubt that the space in which we can move has begun to shrink and that the grip around the throats of the mujahidin has begun to tighten. With the deployment of soldiers and police, the future has become frightening.

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this

Not the Moderate Voice—

I think that Dems will make some gains, but I don’t see them taking over Congress.

finch you are doing the same thing you claim the “Bushbots” are doing.

You may want to re-think your self assessment of being a moderate, if you only tend to scold the Dems here on the blog. You may be a “moderate” Repugnant— you know those Americans who have been extinct for the past 20 years or so.

I think you remind me of those Americans who claimed in the 70’s “well, I didn’t vote for Nixon”, as he cut-and-run out of Washington.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

RE,

The Colbert report gives strictly unedited news interviews. Jon Stewart has a wealth of inside contacts in the White House and reports the news instead of doing a comedy show. The Easter Bunny is very real and in the movie Field of Dreams they didn’t use any actors, the real ghosts showed up.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Are you trying to say you don’t consider me a moderate? I’m shocked, shocked!

The Moderate Voice,

You have to remember that in Goldie’s world you can’t just point out bad behavior or absurd statements. You have to scold equally whether one side deserves it or not. It’s that whole moral equivalency thing.

By RE

June 15, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

RW, take a look at it. Westmoreland is a moron, or at least he sure does appear to be. The only bill he sponsered was one to put the 10 commandments in every courthouse. So what does Colbert ask, what are the 10 commandments. The guy did not know any of them. Take a look for yourself. Whoever is running against him in november should just run that interview over and over

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

RE, While I am not in Westmoreland’s district, I supported Dylan Glenn as my wife knows him personally and he is no dummy.

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

For you remaining 29%, below is a link (hopefully) of how your man W used Zarqawi before the Iraq invasion to increase the insurgency there:

Avoiding attacking suspected terrorist mastermind

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this

RE—

Stephen Colbert rules!

His description of W’s followers not liking his stance on immigrants: “Well, I guess you can’t please 29% of the people all the time!”

By Whining Getagrip, In The House!

June 15, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this

Waaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!

By I Agree With Michael Novak

June 15, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

They call themselves the “reality-based community,” when in truth they are still living on scraps of the old illusions, from which they have never wakened.

The Left is going to lose — big — because they have nothing noble, nothing beautiful, nothing real, nothing true, with which to lead. They are the merchants of illusion. And a significant majority of Americans, although not all, see through them.

In a democratic election, however, it only takes a small majority to win. And the upcoming election of 2006 is not likely to be all that close.

The Democrats piqued too soon.

Just watch.

By The Moderate Voice

June 15, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this

Goldie, I scold the right wingers who try to lump all democrats into one group as well. Just because I don’t see the Dems taking over Congress doesn’t mean I am scolding them, it is just my opinion. It is very hard to win back that many seats especially in the House where incumbents win the vast majority of the time. You may want to reevaluate yourself too, because you see everything through Dem tinted glasses.

By getalife

June 15, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Republicans are failed Americans.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

When you linked that very same story yesterday I responded to you, but you said you had left and may not have seen it. You can look here. I’ll repeat it for you so you don’t need to go to all the trouble of a mouse click.

Goldie,

Does it bother you at all that your story completely contradicts your premise the other day that the Zarqman had nothing to do with Al Qaeda until after we invaded Iraq?

Do you just go with whatever story you think works against America? Better yet do you even care how ignorant it makes you look?

By You Mean Great Americans

June 15, 2006 02:25 PM | Link to this

getagrip: You know we can see right through, right?

By You Mean Great Americans

June 15, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

Ooops:

getagrip: You know we can see right through you, right?

By getalife

June 15, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this

Spamming Andy,

What happened to the old Andy that use to spew pinko libs, pos libs, kooks, and the war with libs in your head?

I miss that.

By getalife

June 15, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

getagrip: You know we can see right through you, right?

Yes, I do.

By Kicking That A-ss

June 15, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

In general and despite the current bleak situation, we think that the best suggestions in order to get out of this crisis is to entangle the American forces into another war against another country or with another of our enemy force, that is to try and inflame the situation between American and Iraq or between America and the Shi’a in general.

That would be Al Qaeda in Iraq, or what’s left of Al Qaeda in Iraq, whining like a real liberal.

By finch

June 15, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

The Moderate Voice,

finch you are doing the same thing you claim the “Bushbots” are doing. By grouping all conservatives into one group, you are doing exactly what you are complaining about.

Not true. Not all conservatives are “BushBots”. In fact, judging by the polls, most aren’t.

I’m reserving the “BushBot” label for anyone who blindly follows Fearless Leader, no matter how wrong he is.

By All That FirePower Is Under Wraps

June 15, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

getagrip: Right now, the US army has everything well in hand, there is no reason for me to unleash my heavy weapons.

I’m pacifying you now.

By GodHatesTrash

June 15, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

29% - a whole lot of bottomfeeders.

Georgia is in the deep part of the swamp, where all the filth settles. Time to drain the swamp!

God hates Georgia - you know why.

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

RW, not to mention Goldie’s post says Bush avoided Zarqawi to increase the insurgency, but her own link says it was to help make the case for Operation Iraqi Freedom. Also, her own link says Zarqawi had a ricin factory in northern Iraq before the invasion. Saddam must have been to busy with the Kurds to notice the terrorist facilities in the northern part of his country.

RW, I’ll bring the smoke if you’ll bring the mirrors.

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this

finch, what do you call those people who can’t see one good thing, no matter how small?

By Maybe They'll Discover The V2 Rocket

June 15, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

I like this one:

The possibility of acquiring new weapons from the Iranian side, either after the fall of Iran or during the battles.

That’s the same thoughts Hitler had while the Soviets were swarming over the German armies.

Maybe Zarqawi killed himself like Hitler did?

Hahahahaha.

And what super weapons would Iran wield against us? The multiple launch sling shot? A 2 ton stone catapult?

It’s funny too that finch is so frightened of the vast arsenal and awesome war powers of the Iranian Armed Forces, but Zarqawi already has their defeat being a foregone conclusion. I guess they need General Seeker commanding their forces, no?

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Change facilities to facility, for accuracy’s sake.

By Filthy Mouth Murtha, In Shackles

June 15, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

Mr. Puckett said such public comments from a congressman via senior Marines amount to “unlawful command influence.” He said potential Marine jurors could be biased by the knowledge that their commandant, the Corps’ top officer, thinks the Haditha Marines are guilty.

“Congressman Murtha will be one of the first witnesses I call to the witness stand,” Mr. Puckett said yesterday.

“What’s being reported out there, it seems an awful lot of it is inaccurate,” Mr. Puckett said. He said his client, stationed at Camp Pendleton, Calif., has been promoted to platoon leader and is not under confinement.

“How would you feel to be falsely accused of killing innocent people,” the attorney said. “He was angered and hurt by it because he doesn’t understand how the public could think he and his Marines could do such a thing.”

He can accuse his army guards at the brig of abuse.

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

Excuse’ moi, RW —

I do believe that Al-Zarqawi was hiding out in Kurdistan, north of our no-fly zone, before we invaded Iraq. He had no real link or support from Saddam Hussein or from OBL/Al Qaeda before we invaded that country. Once we allowed the rioting to occur for about 3 weeks after we invaded, the rise of the insurgency and Al-Zarqawi’s presence became the force we had to deal with from then on. Bush had numerous reports of his training camps going on in Kurdistan and he chose to leave him alone.

I’m not sure what it is you don’t understand about that. But then again, I believe you were the one who posted that Al-Zarqawi was responsible for the bombing of the USS Cole… wasn’t that you, RW? Or was it some other Bush-fool posting here?

By LIED TO & DISILLUSIONED

June 15, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this

Bush and congress aren’t true conservatives, they’re social liberals (wolves) in social conservatives’(sheep) clothing

This president and this congress, specifically this sorry excuse of a senate, has done nothing for the conservative cause but attempt to lead it over a cliff. Uncontrolled and unrestrained spending, out-of-control federal budget deficits with red-ink as far as the eye can see, the mishandling of the Iraq war, uncontrolled and massive illegal immigration and less than half-hearted attempts to keep campaign promises to conservatives (protection of heterosexual marriage, controlling spending, etc.). Bush doesn’t even really care about gay marriage because back in 1998 when he was the Governor of Texas, author and Presidental historian, Doug Wead, secretly taped Bush saying that “I won’t come down hard on the gays like some people in his party want me too” and he and congress even said back in early 2005 that they “couldn’t debate the Marriage Protection Amendment anytime soon”, at least until they were desperate to get back the support of the political base that they so blatanly betrayed and lied to.

George W. Bush and the Republicans don’t care about the social and fiscal issues that are important to conservatives in this country. Republicans as the lying sack of sh— politicians they are only wish to play true conservatives for fools and then shamelessly lie and pander only when it suits them for their own selfish perverted political purposes. The “agenda” of this sorry bunch of Republicans has proved to be worse than any “liberal agenda” could ever be imagined as their agenda only seems to be lies and backstabbing pandering to a base that may tell them to go to hell this time around.

Heck, with all the recent unianimous decisions on the Supreme Court (Anna Nicole Smith’s golddigging payoff being among them), I wouldn’t be suprised if Bush’s two appointees, John Roberts and Samuel Alito turned out to make David Souter (Bush 41’s left-leaning appointee) look like Ann Coulter or Jerry Falwell. Something tells me that these two may not be sure locks to vote against pending issues like gay marriage and abortion.

Senate Republicans and the President aren’t true conservatives, they’re just shameless ELITIST con-artists who unmercifully prey on and pander to the sympathies of true conservatives. Many of these liars hang in the same circles that elite liberals hang in. Bush went to Yale like the rest of his orginally Connecticut-based family with Northeastern heritage and many of these Republican senators, like their Democratic counterparts, grew up in Washington D.C. or left-leaning Northern Virginia (stark difference to the rest of Virginia) and went to elitist private schools. They have no intention of seriously advocating conservative issues.

By Dusty

June 15, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

God Hates Trash,

Why don’t you come to Georgia and enjoy our hospitality? We have some nice friendly ‘gators in the Okeefenokee. They are anxious to meet you since they love Yankees, dogs and snapping turtles. We welcome people of good taste. Come on down.

By finch

June 15, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

It’s funny too that finch is so frightened of the vast arsenal and awesome war powers of the Iranian Armed Forces, but Zarqawi already has their defeat being a foregone conclusion.

You’re now taking too many meds! Call your shrink.

I take it you think Iran would be a cakewalk? The US would be greeted with candy and flowers? You don’t think a nation with triple Iraq’s population and no deep sectarian strife has a military that deserves at least a little respect??

And the Zark-man’s military observations are worth about as much as he is. Which is nothing. Why bother even bringing that up?

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

Goldie, are you serious with this stuff, Zarqawi had no connection with Al-Qaeda? From your own link:

In June 2002, U.S. officials say intelligence had revealed that Zarqawi and members of al-Qaida had set up a weapons lab at Kirma, in northern Iraq, producing deadly ricin and cyanide.

The no fly zones were where Iraq could not fly, so if these bases were north of them Saddam should have known.

But Saddam didn’t provide support? Goldie, I know a few recovering alcoholics and crack addicts that would love to live in your house, but rest assured that you don’t have to support them.

Furthermore can you show me in that link where it says Bush didn’t take Zarqawi out for the purpose of increasing the insurgency, like your post suggested.

By Goldie

June 15, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

Scooter— confused one… there’s plenty of reports and links for you to do some of your own research, but here’s the last paragraph of another one…. it’s a detailed article that may go way over your head, but the last paragraph may help you a little:

[He was long said to have an artificial leg, fitted in Baghdad during Saddam Hussein’s rule — a claim some U.S. officials used to bolster their case that the Iraqi president was conspiring with al-Qaida. The tale about the leg — like so many of the myths around al-Zarqawi — turned out to be false.

Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13205661/page/2/)

You really need to try some new sources other than Faux News and “Wikipedia” if you want to expand your knowledge about who’s who… but I guess they’re all the same, all those Middle Easterners, right?

By General Seeker, Iranian War Hero

June 15, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

Well, let’s see, recently discovered official Al Qaeda documents outlining their last gasp strategy against the United States army and the Iraqi National Guard, says in plain Arabic that if Iran and the US go to war, Iran will be overrun.

They made absolutely no mention of the glorious battles that General Seeker would fight against the Americans, or maybe they are just being silent about their secret weapon, you reckon?

Trying to lure the US into General Seeker’s trap.

Or possibly they too see General Seeker getting roundly punished day after day after day at the Luckovich blog and figure it will be no different on the battlefield.

Who knows?

By gadem

June 15, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

METS are winning life is good, only if we could get rid of W !

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

Goldie good try, you posted a link, misrepresented your own link and then try to put it on me? If I had a stuffed sock, I would whack you with it and say “Homey don’t play that”.

By Huge

June 15, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

…their presidential front runner has made a hysterical pack of lies movie about the environmental horrors of burning oil…

No one believes that the resident psych-job has actualy seen the movie, do they? Oh well, some here are so gifted they don’t need to actually see or read something before being an “expert” on it. You know, the old “don’t confuse with any facts, I’ve already made my mind up” disease. Oh well, Dusty still thinks he’s brilliant, I’m sure…

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this

Goldie dearest,

At least you are trying to squirm a little instead of ignoring all inquiries and posting whatever your handlers tell you to tomorrow. That’s a good sign!

I did, in fact, make a reference to Cindy that there had been reports of possible involvement by the Zarqman in the Cole bombing. I also apologized to her for mentioning it because I couldn’t readily put my hands on those reports. It would be pointless to do that for you as you are completely close minded to the possibility.

It’s laughable that you think you have the first clue about the various terror group entanglements anyway.

Scooter,

Be careful talking about mirrors. Some of the “progressives” here use those to determine their manhood and I would hate to have them start describing how.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

Huge hypocrite,

Are you trying to make us believe you read the #1 book in the country, Godless before you started demanding that everyone denounce Ann Coulter for writing it?

By Daniel

June 15, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

Lt. General Craig Newbold said the decisions in the Iraq War are made by politicians who, “Have not been held accountable for their mistakes nor have had to bury the results”. When General Shinseki said what this war would cost he was replaced. General MacArthur said American troops should not be sent to a land war in Asia. Will the death of Zarqwai breed a hydra? Sadly, finch is right. These goof-balls have sent out troops to fight an invisible enemy for political gain. Any one who believes Bush is a sucker.

By Dusty

June 15, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

Huge,

Do you often hear those little voices telling you things? horrors of burning oil!!! Stuff like that.

Now I’ve burned a few things on the grill but nothing too horrible. Better ask those voices “Who ‘s speaking?” ‘cause, Big Boy/Girl, it isn’t me.

By This May Surprise You

June 15, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

I don’t have to see no movie. They have this thing called film critics. They get paid to take the bullet for the rest of us. And to a man, notice how I don’t call the pinkos “men,” they say this is propaganda and it sucks.

You’re the one being fed the BS and smiling about it. If the sea level is going to rise 20 feet, like your boy says, when do you reckon it will start? You pinkos have been flipped out about this for twenty years, right after your global cooling hysteria washed out, and we’ve gained point 00001 in the ocean level? Please.

You, lib, get off on running through the streets like a harlot. But don’t natter at me just because I don’t join you. I can think for myself.

Most of your silly ideas have killed far more people then the birds they supposedly helped (see DDT.)

You won’t be happy until you kill all of us. Thanks anyway.

By getalife

June 15, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

OMG, Mr. Murtha is on fire debating Iraq.

He just spanked that wingnut from Alabama.

What a great American, Murtha rules!

By rushncap

June 15, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

RW, I can’t believe being whipped by me weeks ago keeps stinging so bad that you can’t help but whine about me even in my absense. Get over it, girl. Deal with it. Have a good cry with your girlfriends. Watch Sex and the City. Eat a gallon of ice cream. Do something! But it’s really time to get over it.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Tell us that story about all those nukes that were completely contained under Clinton then suddenly started roaming all over under Bush again. I love listening to deluded babbling fools like you.

You are really starting to sound a lot like Gore and Kerry. Just admit your defeat and move on, it’s all in the archives. All the recounts in the world aren’t going to help you. Maybe you can get Mindoro to write a story in Rolling Stone saying I stole the debate from you.

In case anyone had been wondering I guess you didn’t mind outing yourself as mirror boy. I tried to be nice and not use your name.

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

Would any Bush haters like to comment on this letter from Zarqawi since our “objective” media didn’t really cover it.

There is no doubt that the space in which we can move has begun to shrink and that the grip around the throats of the mujahidin has begun to tighten. With the deployment of soldiers and police, the future has become frightening Didn’t see that in your local paper did you, objective my arse?

RW, you were to bring the mirrors, I’ll bring the smoke. Most liberals love smoke, especially from Humboldt County.

By Stevie Wonder

June 15, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

I even make jokes about my shades, so I think what Bush said yesterday is funny! Give the guy a break.

And even I can see that the resident bed-wetter here has been beaten up so badly and so often for his idiocy and pandering that he doesn’t even dare use his own name anymore!!

Victory is sweet!!

I guess he thinks it’s safer when he uses all sorts of aliases. His really stupid posts can be brushed off as something from a random troll, and there’s always the chance that he might get credit for a marginally intelligent comment from someone else.

Now THAT’S funny!!

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

OK, but you can see for yourself how touchy rushncap gets when people start flashing mirrors around.

By rushncap

June 15, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this

RW, if you can show me those “suddenly roaming” nukes you keep babbling about, I’d much appreciate it. Since you never either put up or shut up, however, I’ll just assumet that this is another one of your wild-a$s assertions. After all, you failed to back it up a while back, and I don’t see how anything’s improved.

And, RW, you “being nice” is about as genuine as a Duke Cunningham apology. Save it for someone stupider than me, who might believe you for some reason.

Scooter — my take on that letter is that it’s rather frightening when terrorist leaders are being more honest and forthcoming with their followers than the elected U.S. government is with theirs. Oh, and yes, Humboldt weed is pretty damn good. Maybe the first truthful thing you’ve said so far.

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this

Yeah Stevie, speaking of changing names in defeat, you seem to know a version of ml blog history but I don’t know that I have seen your name before? Things that make you hmmmm.

By finch

June 15, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

Scooter, I’ll give it a shot.

I read it, and see the ravings of a zealot who knew he was whipped, but still wanted a Muslim vs. Muslim civil war. Boy, did he ever hate the Sh-ia!

I’m still laughing over his discovery that he’s not getting any virgins.

By the way, I’m not a Bush hater. I’ve said here before that if he wasn’t a teetotaler, I’d have a beer with him. He’s just in way WAY over his head.

By getalife

June 15, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

Most liberals love smoke, especially from Humboldt County.

It is official, I am a liberal after all.

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

I try not to deal with rushncap, his superior intellect intimidates me.

By Hyocrite Extraordinaire

June 15, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

I guess he thinks it’s safer when he uses all sorts of aliases.

By Stevie Wonder June 15, 2006 05:31 PM

Do these libs even think about it?

What’s the matter, mister wireless connection at the gay bath house, finding it hard to jack my name?

Wanker.

Why won’t you answer my question about the letter from the government, mister KKK rally attender?

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Is that Humboldt County smoke the reason that every 5 or 6 months you act almost human for an hour or so? I would tell someone stupider than you that I was being nice, but Goldie and Midori aren’t going to believe me either so I’ll just leave it with you.

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this

So, when Zarqawi says the future is frighening because the Iraqi Security Forces are beginning to stand up, it seems like the General’s Bush directed plan is working.

finch, I don’t think Bush is in over his head. The President shouldn’t micro-manage a war, Johnson and McNamara should have shown us that. For instance, it is my understanding that FDR did not want Gen. Nimitz to bait the Japanese at the Battle of Midway. Had FDR had his way it could be argued the Japanese would have decimated our pacific fleet and moved on the west coast?

Rushncap, you should really point out the many lies I tell, as you perceive them. I always try to provide objective links and I would recommend you do the same when you refute my lies.

By Daniel

June 15, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this

Craig Newbold is a retired American combat general who served in Iraq. Do you have the capacity to respond intelligently to his observation above?

By Nucular

June 15, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this

One would think that even a lowbrow such as Bush and his followers would feel humiliation/embarrassment at this latest taxpayer super-expensive joke of flying to Baghdad. But nooo. These people know not the meaning of the word “shame.” The beat goes on.

By @@

June 15, 2006 06:22 PM | Link to this

I know I’ve been gone for awhile, but Rushncap, do you or don’t you do drugs? The night that you were professing your desire to own Dusty, you compared her to a wonderfully numbing drug but said that you had never done drugs. Today I see this:

Oh, and yes, Humboldt weed is pretty damn good. Maybe the first truthful thing you’ve said so far.

Not that it’s any of my business what you do in the privacy of your own home, but Dusty may want to know if her posts are being utilized by you to well……you know……?

By @@

June 15, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

Scooter:

No need to speculate about Stevie. His usual obsession with Andy and familiar rhetoric let’s us all know who he really is. But there’s no reason for him to change his name. Nobody has ever found themselves consumed by anything he posts here except his biggest fan, himself. Right?

By Daniel

June 15, 2006 06:39 PM | Link to this

Now that the answer to my 6:01 post is: No. Let’s move on. Why aren’t the children of our leadership in thhis war? Why are our marines required to serve 2 and 3 tours? Explain the Haditha massacre? Scooter: Bush has been so wrong so often, why do you believe this person? Remember: “In and out in three months”, Flowers in the streets”, “The last throes..” Ok, Ok, that was Cheney. “Bring’em on!”, ” Mission Accomplished”. Why, on earth, do you trust and believe these people? While you think about that; admit this: It’s a heck of a lot easier to sit here in front of a computer than it is to send someone else’s kid to fight and die for an invisible enemy. What is your sacrifice for this struggle? What is America’s sacrifice? Most American’s could give a sh**.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 06:51 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

The answer to your 6:01 is that there are many military points of view that differ with him. (If you would address your questions to someone or even explicitly to everyone you might get an answer once in a while)

As for your 6:39

By Dusty

June 15, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

@@,

Have no fear about Rushncap. He’s not on drugs. He’s just plain out of IT any way you put it.

He even thinks he has outwitted RW. That is very humorous which it wasn’t meant to be. Oh well, good old Rushie, always giving us a few laughs. Next he will say we’re all whining. I’ve been dining but not whining. Closing time!!!

By Midori

June 15, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

RW, The Original Moron,

no I don’t believe you. I don’t believe a word that you or your fearless leader says.

You lie too much. Over and over and over again.

The only people buying your take on things are the like-minded brain dead.

I’ll stay with the living, thank you very much.

By Another Day Without Midori Or Any Name Jacking

June 15, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this

It’s kind of obvious.

By Midori

June 15, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

Nucluar,

didn’t the Iraqi prime minister look “very uncomfortable” sitting next to Bush?

He certainly did not look happy.

Probably worried that his death warrant has just been issued.

Bush carries death with him every where he goes.

By No, Murtha Should Be Hung, Like A Dog

June 15, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

He has irrevocably harmed the country.

By Midori

June 15, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this

George, don’t worry Midori will be right behind Andy.

Odd, Moderate Voice, that you would try to put me in the same category as Andy.

You know something I don’t know?

It’s been my experience that the person pointing the finger is normally the culprit.

So, you were the one spamming yesterday? Is that what you are trying to tell us?

I know how you people revel in trying to make me the scapegoat, but hey, I’m a good sport.

Don’t tire yourself out spamming, you hear? After all, there’s always tomorrow.

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 07:19 PM | Link to this

Daniel, perhaps I have the capacity to intelligently comment on Gen Newbold’s statements. About the leadership not having to answer for their mistakes, or having to bury them. Is he saying that Bush has not met with any families of the fallen? I don’t think Bush is the heartless monster the left tries to portray him as. Furthermore, no war goes perfectly so he is simply arguing degrees of mistakes. Were mistakes made in WWII and did FDR have to answer for them, or were his kids in that war, did he have kids?

I think Bush believes all people want to have some degree of self determination and that will set an example for the larger Middle-East, if successful. By setting this example, I think Bush believes it will be a LONG TERM solution to slow the breeding of terrorist. Bush believing that all people want self determination says we will hold Saddam accountable for years of deceit and stand up the new Iraqi government to defend itself, now Generals let me hear how you would make that happen. All Generals have their say and those that don’t get their way have personal choices of reaction. That is about as much a plan as I expect a President to set.

Most of the mistakes “the left” uses hindsight to complain about, I can understand the point of view that created them. For example, I think Commanders and Bush new our presence would not be a good thing so they wanted to make as small a footprint as possible, so as few soldiers as possible. Combat has two parties and each of their actions depends on the reaction of the other, so plans don’t mean jack. It’s a fluid situation, for those that would have never undertaken the responsibility, to turn around and complain, is opportunistic at the least.

Also, I too believed that oil revenues would help pay for reconstruction. I feel confident we will get repayment, perhaps not monetarily, but hopefully in gratitude. Was that intelligent enough?

Peace out

By Huge

June 15, 2006 07:27 PM | Link to this

Huge hypocrite, Are you trying to make us believe you read the #1 book in the country, Godless before you started demanding that everyone denounce Ann Coulter for writing it?

To quote one of your heroes, “There you go again”. RW sticking his nose in yet again, only to have it lopped off again. Go back and read the quotes, dumas. I derided that skinny hate-monger for using the exact words (the women enjoying their husbands deaths) we discussed, not the entire book. A subtle distinction that a less than nimble mind like yours just trips over. I made no comments on the book otherwise, nor denounced her for writing it. But kudos, for again sticking up for your bully buddy.

And when did Fox News get film critics?!!!!

And the post of 5:11 is also eerily similar to those of suck of many names. It’s almost coherent, but you read it and go WTF?!! And why not her usual party line of andy’s patriotic, he’s brilliant, blah, blah, blah this time? Is she getting weary of trying to convince herself?

By @@

June 15, 2006 07:46 PM | Link to this

Daniel:

In response to your 6:01 post, consider this:

Leadership Challenges Posed by Asymmetric Threats

Senior defense officials have made it abundantly clear that in their view, the challenges posed by asymmetric approaches to warfare require a realignment of the way strategic leaders think and plan. Indeed, some recent slating of officers into top military jobs has been described as a signal to encourage more fresh thinking and innovation. The need to “think differently” has been a recurring theme in defense transformation efforts as well as in preparing US military forces for asymmetric threats.

Maybe Newbold was unable to make the adjustment from symmetrical warfare to asymmetrical warfare. Old generals can be stubborn and set in their ways.

The media offered their perspective on Tommy Franks claiming that he was the wrong guy for this war. Franks made the adjustment and commends the efforts of the troops and their leaders. Funny, I never thought of Franks as progressive.

Maybe Franks knows the true meaning of the word and you’re just pretending to know.

By Huge Mental Issues

June 15, 2006 07:46 PM | Link to this

Congratulations, RW, I believe your post is the one that caused huge to go insane.

Why does it surprise these pinkos so much that Conservatives don’t immediately cave in to thier nonsense?

Just because they have no backbone doesn’t mean that we don’t.

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 08:02 PM | Link to this

Huge, this planet is approximately six billion years old and has gone through cycles of cooling and warming throughout that time. Now Al Gore takes a subject, that has far too many variables to have a cause of scientific certainty, and we are supposed to believe that he has the straight dope. Wasn’t it Al Gore who stood there screaming ‘they are playing on our fears’, or some such hysterical and hypocritical nonsense.

This nation is taking the steps necessary to stop the cause of that hysteria and create something new to worry about. The bottom line is overpopulation is and will end us as a people, so why do liberals insist that all people live as long as possible. Since I am in the environmental field, I always tell the abundance of hysterical eco-liberals I deal with, unless you are willing to start killing every third born, you are simply peeing in the wind.

If you want to go see the “documentary” feel free to let Al loose you in the nuance, but just know; this planet will not support an infinite number of inhabitants, hot or cold, high seas or low seas.

Politicians crave government power and they will use any cause to get it.

By Scooter

June 15, 2006 08:02 PM | Link to this

Huge, this planet is approximately six billion years old and has gone through cycles of cooling and warming throughout that time. Now Al Gore takes a subject, that has far too many variables to have a cause of scientific certainty, and we are supposed to believe that he has the straight dope. Wasn’t it Al Gore who stood there screaming ‘they are playing on our fears’, or some such hysterical and hypocritical nonsense.

This nation is taking the steps necessary to stop the cause of that hysteria and create something new to worry about. The bottom line is overpopulation is and will end us as a people, so why do liberals insist that all people live as long as possible. Since I am in the environmental field, I always tell the abundance of hysterical eco-liberals I deal with, unless you are willing to start killing every third born, you are simply peeing in the wind.

If you want to go see the “documentary” feel free to let Al loose you in the nuance, but just know; this planet will not support an infinite number of inhabitants, hot or cold, high seas or low seas.

Politicians crave government power and they will use any cause to get it.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 08:12 PM | Link to this

Huge mental issues,

Thanks, but I don’t think I can really take the credit. They all seem to have come Unhinged at once. Think about what life is like for them right now. They couldn’t win what should have been the easiest victory in the history of Congressional elections. (memo to moonbats: that was hyperbole, much like mentioning a whole book when pointing out that a Huge hypocrite had not read a particular chapter) The Pelosi wing is fighting with the CBC, Mothra is battling Hoyer for a non-existent position. Zarqawi is taking an eternal dirt nap and their only response is to babble about Ann Coulter. Bush pops into Baghdad and his approval is on the rise.

The Washington Post misquotes the Iraqi prime minister about amnesty and Schumer and Levin couldn’t beat feet to a camera faster. Then it was pointed out that even had the story been correct they are the ones that wanted to reinstate and grant amnesty to Saddam’s Iraqi Army.

On the House floor they are having to debate the global war on terror and include Iraq.

So it may look as if I had something to do with it, the exploding heads of most of liberal friends here has been a foregone conclusion. I can’t wait to see them on November 8th.

By @@

June 15, 2006 08:38 PM | Link to this

Nucular:

You’ve got to be kidding. The trip to Baghdad was long overdue. I wanted to kick GW’s butt for not making it sooner. The cost is inconsequential when you consider the effects it had on the Iraqi government leaders. A show of confidence for their efforts and at the risk of Bush’s life.

Midori:

Prime Minister al-Maliki was not uncomfortable, he was humbled by Bush’s visit. He indicated that by placing his hand to his heart upon seeing him. A muslim sign of “humility”. It was very telling of his gratitude.

By Fox News Alert

June 15, 2006 10:33 PM | Link to this

The Washington Post misquotes the Iraqi prime minister about amnesty…

It definitely did.

BAGHDAD, June 15 — Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s office Thursday accepted the resignation of an aide who had told a reporter that Maliki was considering a limited amnesty that would likely include guerrillas who had attacked U.S. troops, the aide said.

But 5 GOP Senators actually defended the amnesty idea before it was discounted.

Senators invoke Confederacy, Mandela to defend amnesty

“If they bore arms against our people… what’s the difference between those people that bore arms against the Union in the War between the States? What’s the difference between the Germans and Japanese and all the people we’ve forgiven?” - Sen. Ted Stevens (R - AK)

GOP Senators Defend Proposal That Gives Amnesty To Terrorists

“Is it not true today that we have Iraqis who are fighting the war against the insurgents, who at one time fought against American troops and other coalition troops as they were marching to Baghdad, who have now come over to our side and are doing one heck of a job of fighting along, side by side, with Americans and coalition forces, attacking and killing insurgents on a daily basis?” - Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R - GA)

The families of the 2500 Americans killed in Iraq cant be happy about this.

By RW-(the original)

June 15, 2006 11:01 PM | Link to this

Fox News Alert,

I wouldn’t even consider being the presumptuous bastard you are and speaking for the families of 2500 dead Americans.

Frankly it sickens me the way you will use dead Americans for your own political purposes with no regard whatsoever how those families really do feel.

If a Senator is basing their statement on a trust that what they said is true and correct I have no problem with it. At least they wouldn’t be like the Democrats that demanded amnesty for the very same people they denounce today in a cheap political stunt.

One thing that is certain, whichever slimebag you are, you’ve never been to Pearl Harbor on any December 7th and watched the families of American and Japanese victims and survivors pray together.

How exactly do you think a war ever ends if at some point in time someone that was your enemy doesn’t become your friend? For that matter when is the last time you gave a damn about a victim anyway. Did you care a whit about Tookie’s victims? Mumia’s?

At least you were too chickensh-it to use your regular name which says it’s possible that you have a conscience. Why don’t you make your points without dragging other peoples dead bodies around without their consent?