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“The main female character, Yukiko, draws hair on the ‘mound’ of a little girl,” Collins reports. “The brothers of a dead samurai have sex with his daughter….certain passages can better be described as reminiscent of Penthouse Forum…Other sex scenes are less conventional.” A direct quote from the novel: “At age 10 the madam put the child in a cage with a bear trained to couple with young girls so the girls would be frigid and not fall in love with their patrons. They fed her through the bars and aroused the bear with a stick when it seemed to lose interest.” British Literary Review editor Nancy Sladek, who oversees a Bad Sex fiction writing contest, tells Collins: “That’s a bit depraved, isn’t it, this kind of thing about bears and young girls?” Never mind the passage concerning sex with a deer.”

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Rush Limbaugh, triple-divorcee, 30-pill a day drug addict.

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Bob Livingston, former Congressman (R-La.) resigned from the House in the wake of revelations about his past adultery despite continued GOP support.

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Donald Lukens, Republican Congressman, was found guilty of having sex with a minor - a girl he was accused of sleeping with since she was 13.

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Pat McPherson, Douglas County Election Commissioner. Arrested for fondling a 17-year-old girl.

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Jon Matthews, Republican talk show host in Houston, plead guilty to indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17.

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Jeff Miller, (R-Cleveland), Senate Republican Caucus Chairman in Tennessee and the sponsor of Tennessee’s Marriage Protection act, getting divorced (as of April 2005) because of an affair he was having with an office aid. Miller described the Tennessee Marriage Protection Act as a means of preserving the sanctity of marriage. He opposed an amendment, however, which stated that “Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and contrary to public policy in Tennessee.”

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Nicholas Morency, Republican anti-abortion activist, pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

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Sue Myrick, Congresswoman (R-NC), describes herself as a “devout Christian.” Committed adultery with a married man and won reelection after admitting it.

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Bill O’Reilly Right-wing conservative talk show host on Fox News, sued for sexual harrassment by his producer.

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Bob Packwood, Senator (R-Ore.), resigned in 1995 under a threat of public senate hearings related to 10 female ex-staffers accusing him of sexual harassment.

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Jeffrey Patti, Republican Committee Chairman, was arrested for distributing what experts call “some of the most offensive material in the child pornography world” - a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

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Brent Parker (R) Utah State Representative. Arrested for soliciting sex from an undercover officer posing as a male prostitute.

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Harvey Pitt, SEC Chief under George W. Bush until he was forced to resign in 2002. Worked for New Frontier Media, a firm which distributed XXX teen sex videos.

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Mark Pazuhanich, Republican judge, pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

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George Roche III, Republican supporter, carried on a 19 year affair with his son’s wife, while serving as president of Hillsdale College, which “emphasizes the importance of the common moral truths that bind all Americans, while recognizing the importance of religion for the maintenance of a free society.”

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Beverly Russell (R), County Chairman of the Christian Coalition, sexually molested his step-daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her two children.

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Jack Ryan, 2004 Republican nominee for US Senate from Illinois, pressured his wife, actress Jeri Ryan, to have sex with other men. Tricked her into visiting sex clubs, where he asked her to have sex with him while others watched.

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Joe Scarborough, former Republican Congressman, currently a conservative talk show host. Resigned his congressional seat abruptly to spend more time with his family, amidst allegations of an affair. His intern, Lori Klausutis, was soon after found dead in his office. The medical examiner, who had his license revoked in Missouri for falsifying information in an autopsy report, and suspended in Florida for six years, ruled the case an accident, after giving conflicting information about her injuries. He said he lied about them because “The last thing we wanted was 40 questions about a head injury.”

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Ed Schrock, two-term republican congressman, with a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Cosponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids. Withdrew his candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting for gay sex were circulated.

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Dr. Laura Schlessinger, right wing conservative radio host. Promotes family values, estranged from her mother, opposes birth control, has had her tubes tied, espouses saving oneself for marriage, admits to having had sex before she was married, opposes adultery, has committed adultery while she was married, and has slept with a married man, opposes divorce, is divorced and remarried, has posed for nude photos which are available online. Note- link shows Dr. Laura nude!

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John Scmitz, right-wing republican congressman, who had had his committee chairship taken away from him in the California State Senate after issuing a press release attacking Jews, feminists and gays. Forced out of office in 1982 for having an adulterous affair and fathering two children out of wedlock with one of his students. He was caught because his baby was admitted to hospital for having hair tied so tightly around his p*** that it was almost severed. His daughter, Mary Kay LeTourneau, was convicted of having an adulterous affair with one of her students, and giving birth to two of his children.

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Larry Jack Schwarz, Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, fired after child pornography was found in his possession. With his political career over, he went to work in the hard-core pornography industry for Platinum X Pictures, owned by his daughter, porn starlet Jewel De’Nyle (Stephany Schwarz).

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Jim Stelling, Seminole County Republican Party chairman who believes in “family values”, as he told a judge. Filed a defamation lawsuit againt Nancy Goettman, a former county GOP executive committee member, for falsely claiming he had been married six times. Stelling has been married 5 times.

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Don Sherwood, Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives. Eventually admitted to an affar with a woman 30 years younger than him, after she accused him of physical abuse and attempting to choke her.

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Tom Shortridge. Republican campaign consultant, was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

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Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr., Republican City Councilman, pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

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Craig J. Spence, Republican lobbyist, organized orgies with child prostitutes in the White House during the 1980s.

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David Swartz, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

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Randall Terry, Right to Life activist, founder of Operation Rescue, involved in the Terri Schiavo protests. Once imprisoned for sending former President Bill Clinton an aborted fetus. His son Jamiel is gay; his daughter Tila had sex outside of marriage, became pregnant, had a miscarriage - she is no longer welcome in his home; his daughter Ebony had 2 children outside of wedlock and became Muslim. He has campaigned against infidelity and birth control, gays and unwed mothers. Terry himself was censured by his church after committing adultery and is divorced.

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Bill Thomas Republican congressman and Bush health care guru, had an affair with Deborah Steelman, a health care lobbyist who steered huge campaign gifts to Thomas’ war chest.

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Strom Thurmond, republican senator and racist, raped and impregnated a 15-year old African American maid.

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Robin Vanderwall, Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate, director of Faith & Family Alliance, (a Christian Coalition spin off), former student of Pat Robertson’s Regent Universtity, member of Ralph Reed’s inner circle who funneled money to from lobbiest Jack Abromoff to Reed, convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

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J.C. Watts, Representative (R-Oklahoma), loud champion of “moral values.” Has admitted to two out-of-wedlock children. Also has trouble paying his taxes.

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Jim West, Spokane Mayor. Supported a bill, which failed, would have barred gays and lesbians from working in schools, day-care centers and some state agencies. Voted to bar the state from distributing pamphlets telling people how to protect themselves from AIDS. Proposed that “any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person” among teens be criminalized. Had a sexual affair with an 18 year old boy. Caught in internet sting.

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Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative (R), was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). Commits suicide.

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Stephen White, Republican preacher. Was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this

Never pass up a chance to slander the troops, do you, AJC?:

Islamic group slams ‘Marine’ music video

Fazekas said officials don’t know the identity of the singer or whether he is in the military.

Keep it up, Atlanta Urinal, everybody’s watching. They know the real deal.

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this

“When Iraq succeeds in having a government of and by and for the people of Iraq, you will have dealt a serious blow to those who have a vision of darkness, who don’t believe in liberty, who are willing to kill the innocent in order to achieve a political objective,” said the president, traveling to Iraq less than a week after the U.S. military killed al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab Zarqawi.

[“I have come today to personally show our nation’s commitment to a free Iraq. My message to the Iraqi people is this: Seize the moment; seize this opportunity,” he said later in the day to U.S. troops in Baghdad’s heavily fortified Green Zone.](http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060614-124159-4782r.htm

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 08:08 AM | Link to this

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki yesterday announced the start of a massive security campaign in Baghdad, saying security forces would show “no mercy” in their effort to wipe out insurgent strongholds and defang militias.

Some 75,000 troops — Iraqi and American — will carry out the operation code-named “Going Forward Together,” said Gen. Abdelaziz Mohammed Jassem, Iraq’s combined-forces operations chief.

Light at the end of the tunnel?

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 08:08 AM | Link to this

Instead of apologizing, Israel should have said that, while it does not purposely target civilians, Palestinian terrorists regularly target innocents. Terrorists deliberately place themselves in locations that increase the likelihood civilians will be killed in an Israeli retaliatory strike. The Israeli response, not the Palestinian attack that precipitated it, then becomes the dominant media story.

Sounds familiar, don’t it?

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

With Marines being accused of war crimes, the blogosphere is doing what it does best: scrutinizing the reporting. In this case, the site Sweetness & Light has been on Time magazine’s case for what appears to be justifiable concerns over its reporting of the Nov. 19 Haditha incident, in which Marines are under investigation for killing two dozen innocent Iraqis.

One of Time’s key sources who had taken footage of the aftermath was represented only as a “journalism student.” It has since been learned that this eyewitness was Taher Thabet al Hadithi.

Time has also had to correct its reporting that “one of the most damning pieces of evidence investigators have in their possession, John Sifton of Human Rights Watch told Time’s Tim McGirk, is a photo, taken by a Marine with his cell phone that shows Iraqis kneeling — and thus posing no threat — before they were shot.” Mr. Sifton has now admitted to Time that he has no firsthand knowledge of this mysterious photo.

As counter-evidence goes, Time’s misreporting unfortunately does little to clear up what happened in Haditha. But as a case-in-point lesson in how the media can artfully angle a story, it’s evidence enough.

Another fake story? And these same liberals wonder why the world hates us.

By Just the facts, ma'am

June 14, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

Iraq in Civil War for 82% of Americans

Let us pray.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

Virtually from day one, the media have reported this war as a litany of gloom and doom. Images of violence and destruction dominate TV coverage. Analysts endlessly second-guess every military and political decision. Allegations of wrongdoing by US soldiers get far more play than tales of their heroism and generosity. No wonder more than half of the public now believes it was a mistake to send troops to Iraq.

He begins with refugees. In the past, one could always tell that life in Iraq was growing desperate by the long lines of Iraqis trying to escape over the Iranian and Turkish borders. There have been no such scenes since the toppling of Saddam Hussein in 2003. Instead of fleeing the “nightmare” that Iraq has supposedly become, Iraqi refugees have been returning, more than 1.2 million of them as of last December.

As to the toon, it took a technicality to nab Capone and nothing is too good for our honorable ex-mayor.

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

For many people, the Internal Revenue Service is the most feared law enforcement agency in the country. At the state, county, and city level, nearly every house, trailer, boat, car, truck, RV, and motorcycle in the nation is tracked year to year, assessed, taxed and monitored with rigorous enforcement by every clerk and traffic cop possible. Likewise, nearly every gas station, shopping mall, fruit stand, restaurant and bar in America is expected to collect sales tax on every stick of gum or pair of panties it ever sold.

This the government can do. But it can’t find the illegal aliens on the street corner or shut down the makers of fake green cards or prosecute the same businesses it expects to obey a million different tax laws when they knowingly hire a subcontractor to provide them with laundered illegal labor.

Clearly, if you want a law enforced by our government, you should make it a tax law.

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this

Pandering to the lunatics:

Remember, Howard Dean proved that raising a lot of dough from far-left extremists is not conducive to shutting them up. As Howard himself saidof his supporters, “We listen. We pay attention. If I give a speech and the blog people don’t like it, next time I change the speech.” He changed the speech so often that in the end, it resembled nothing if not a primal scream.

Until you become one.

AAAAAAaaaaaeeeeeeeyyyyyyygggggggghhhhhhhaaaaaaeeeeee!!!

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 08:11 AM | Link to this

The Rove decision also finally discredits the accusation that there was some grand White House conspiracy to smear Mr. Wilson. Mr. Fitzgerald has brought no charges concerning the original leak, which means there was no underlying crime. His entire case—and this entire “scandal”—has been distilled to charges of perjury and obstruction against one man, former Vice Presidential Chief of Staff I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby.

The mystery is why Mr. Fitzgerald kept Mr. Rove twisting in the wind for so long. The prosecutor has been on the case for 2 1/2 years, and he long ago learned the source for the July 2003 Robert Novak column that “outed” Ms. Plame and was the reason he was appointed. Mr. Rove was forced to make no less than five grand jury appearances, the latest as recently as April.

Maximizing the political effect?

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 08:11 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Clinton called the Iraq war a “grotesque mistake” before adding “but we cannot bring the troops home until they make sure Iraq has a unified government,” a comment that set off a round of raucous booing from all parts of the hall where the Washington conference of Campaign for America’s Future, mostly made up of Democrats, was held.

If this thing would shut up with the “gross mistake” and go about trying to explain why it was a worthy and noble cause that she voted for, maybe people would have enough respect not to boo her.

Yea, right. I forgot we were talking about moonbats, never mind.

One gets the sense at times that for Mr. Bush the war is about the “ideology of light” and freedom and soul-craft, whereas for Mrs. Clinton it is about politics and point-scoring and navigating between a Democratic primary electorate and a more conservative general electorate. If she goes on in this vein the booing and jeering won’t just be coming from the anti-war left but from the broad center, the consensus of America that does believe in what Mr. Bush called the universality of freedom, an idea that has been etched into the bedrock of this nation since its Declaration of Independence was issued in the midst of another controversial war more than two centuries ago.

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this

Urging a “proactive” approach to the war on terror and an energy policy that embraces diversity, Mayor Giuliani last night launched a fund-raising drive for Republican congressional candidates that will likely thrust him onto the national stage as he ponders a presidential bid.

The fund-raiser at the Four Seasons restaurant in Midtown drew more than 200 supporters and took in more than $2 million for Mr. Giuliani’s political action committee, Solutions America. Committee officials said the windfall far outpaced expectations; aides to Mr. Giuliani earlier predicted the event would raise $500,000.

By I Report, They Whine

June 14, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

By Spammin Like Andy June 14, 2006 08:06 AM Anybody want a copy of Scooters book? The Apprentice: a Novel by I. Lewis, Scooter, Libby

Scooter Libby’s book is “news” to the pinkos?

Hahahahahahahahaha.

It must suck to be a lib.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:21 AM | Link to this

It must suck to be a lib.

Only if your a child being FORCED to “suck” by a Republican. ^ ^ ^

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

Spammin Like Andy, you take it to a whole nother level. I have never seen Andy do such, you are more dedicated. How long did that partisan post take you? Did you get paid? Are the Dems without fault in your eyes?

By Chris

June 14, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this

Lupus Walk…Join Team Murphy!

By GodHatesTrash

June 14, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this

There should be lots of con gloating about Campbell’s incarceration today.

Since the con scum is too fat and lazy to lynchmob any more, cyberspace has become an outlet for their hatred and violence.

Would these bloodthirsty sumbritches get their fat angry arses to Iraq, and let some decent folks come home!

By gadem

June 14, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

So Andy, what have they been doing? Have they been having tea parties with the insurgents? I thought they had been trying to wipe out the insurgent strongholds the entire time.

By I Report, They Whine

June 14, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

By Spammin Like Andy June 14, 2006 08:21 AM It must suck to be a lib. Only if your a child being FORCED to “suck” by a Republican.

You’re the liberal, loser. I thought having children suck was one of your goals? Can’t you keep your agenda straight?

Or are the Republicans getting under your skin? Are we causing you to mutter and rage? Nothing good happening in your sorry little world, you have to drag out decades old lies and parade them around?

I’m glad I’m not you.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

FEMA funds spent on divorce, sex change

When the Bush administration should have been helping the hurricane victims, THIS is what they spent your tax money on!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:33 AM | Link to this

Philadelphia “English-only” eatery faces probe

In Bush’s America, a man can’t even refuse service to those that don’t speak English. This must be a subsection of the Republican amnesty program!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this

God and gays: Churchgoers divided

Under the Bush administration, churchs are deciding that homosexuality is the way to go!

By deegee

June 14, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

It’s interesting that when we go on the international offense we Americans proclaim “we are a nation of laws” and “we don’t stand for corruption in government as does Mexico.” However when we speak among ourselves we give politicians like “Dollar Bill” Campbell defensive cover as if his felony convictions were something other than law breaking corruption in government.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this

Pension funds suing companies on options

George W. Bush lets corporations steal the pensions of working men and women!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

New poll shows US image sinking abroad

The Bush administration TRASHES America’s reputation around the world!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

Lawmaker blasts VA handling of data theft

Bush doesn’t care about soldiers. His administration leaves their personal and financial data open for theives to plunder!

By The Moderate Voice

June 14, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

It is always funny to see each side try to paint the other as more corrupt. They are both corrupt people, which is a large reason why our voter turn-out is so low. People are sick of corrupt politicans that pander to special interests. And if you don’t think it happnes on your side of the political spectrum you are just kidding yourself.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:45 AM | Link to this

Juror misconduct delays Abramoff trial

Republicans are TAMPERING with the first Abramhoff scandal jury!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

Rove avoids being charged in CIA leak case

Republicans use another “get out of jail free card”!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

Highlights of Iraq-hurricane relief bill

Republican congress thinks that hurricane Katrina hit IRAQ instead of Louisiana!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

House OKs more aid for Iraq, Afghanistan

More Republican overseas WELFARE funds on the way!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this

Guantanamo suicides spotlight need to shut prison: UN

Bush administration does not monitor terrorist suspects allowing them to become MARTYRS!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 08:57 AM | Link to this

Justices OK challenges to lethal injection

Bush’s Supreme Court set to abolish the death penalty!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this

Texas loses appeal in high-profile murder

Bush’s Supreme Court gives a pass to another murderer/rapist. Guess this guy must be a Republican lawmaker!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

Bush education policy to miss goals: Harvard study

The Republican idea of “No Child Left Behind” means that no child’s behind should be left “untouched”!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

Gas prices push consumer inflation higher

But Bush is gonna tell you that the economy is WONDERFUL! How’s YOUR monthly budget crunch looking? Use you common sense and reject Republican LIES!

By YAHOO-ADMIN

June 14, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this

It has come to our attention that every story we have gathered is being linked here one at a time. No need to go back and forth

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

Core CPI up sharper-than-expected

The Consumer Price Index is rising faster than a Republican after a 10 year old girl but they are gonna tell ya that the economy is ROBUST!

By MikeT

June 14, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

Andy knows all about sucking. He’s very good too.

By Eric

June 14, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

You da bomb, Spammin!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

Lunch break becomes briefer as ‘hour’ shrinks

Under the rule of King George you are even working on your lunch hours and at the end of the week you (and your spouse) still can’t buy as much as you could 7 years ago!

By I'm Not A Mind Reader

June 14, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this

By gadem June 14, 2006 08:28 AM So Andy, what have they been doing?

Who’s they? What are you talking about?

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

Spammin is a typical critic with no solutions. Just criticism passed off as intelligence

By New Orleans, Full Of Liberals

June 14, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

The Federal Emergency Management Agency also was hoodwinked to pay for season football tickets, a tropical vacation and a sex change operation, the audit found. Prison inmates, a supposed victim who used a New Orleans cemetery for a home address and a person who spent 70 days at a Hawaiian hotel all were able to get taxpayer help, according to evidence that gives a new black eye to the nation’s disaster relief agency.

“I do Katrina victims all the time,” Lipkin, the divorce attorney, told The Associated Press. “I didn’t know anybody did that with me. I don’t think it’s right, obviously.”

By MikeT

June 14, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

Scooter always has all the answers. They are just always wrong.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Good one Mike T.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

Police: Gunman likely wrote found letter

The gunman who killed six people and himself at a rave party was likely the author of a letter that complains about the rave scene and says in part, “This hippy stuff has to end,” police said Tuesday.

This is how conservatives deal with people they don’t like who go to parties! Kill ‘em all and since they hate themselves as much as anyone who may be enjoying life, they off themselves too!

By gttim

June 14, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

You know, Spammin’, that list is incomplete. There are so many more Republicans that have been convicted of sexual and immoral acts. But they are the party of “Family Values.”

Funny, the wingnuts call a post like that “partisan.” It is not partisan, it is “truthful.” Own up to your people. Any one Dem gets convicted, like Campbell, which was done correctly, and you paint all Dems as bad. Put up a list of a hundred Republicans caught in deviant positions, and it is just a few bad apples.

It is not individual corruption that is so bad, although they need to be prosecuted as well, it is the whole culture of corruption, and immorality, that was brought to Washington by the GOP and the K-Street gang. They have sold, and continue to sell, our government to the highest bidder. They won’t even enforce laws concerning companies employing illegal aliens because the companies want cheap labor, leaving millions of hardworking Americans unemployed! The GOP is ruining America and killing the middle and upper-middle class.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

Ex-FDA chief: Agency meant to OK Plan B

Bush administration working to approve the “day-after” ABORTION pill!

By Crazy Out of Touch Liberal

June 14, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

I love Spammin Like Andy.

Now all you Republicunts can see what you’ve claimed for so long is all BS.

You are dishonest, disingenuous, weenies.

Keep it up Spammin!

Scooter - you seem to think this board is about reasoned discussion? It was till you and your ilk continued to hold Andy in such high regard. He’s an a$$ and you’re an a$$.

Repudiate the bile and hate-filled postings Andy lives by and then perhaps we can have some fun spirited discussions.

Until then, KMA.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

Scientists to try to clone human embryos

Bush administration allows human embryo CLONING!

By I Guess Everybody In The World Is A Republican

June 14, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

Especially people who do wrong.

If you live in a paranoid crackpot fantasy world full of moonbats, I mean, of course.

Right wing attack machines everywhere!

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

gttim,

Would you go back through the archives and show us the list of Democrats we have painted with this same broad brush you seem so fond of?

Now I know that will be too tough a task for you so how about this. How many jobs that will plant you firmly in the middle or upper-middle class are being done by illegal aliens?

By joewilson

June 14, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

gttim,

Great post. I posted the same here.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

Crazy Out of Touch Liberal, yeah you are right Kimberly, Tex, Rushncap, Midori, etc… had nothing to do with it. Good point.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

US sees no cut in Iraq oil attacks after Zarqawi

So it looks like, according to the Bush administration, Public Enemy #3 was having absolutely no input into attacks on Iraqi (pay for the war) pipelines. Can these guys ever make up their minds. Was Zarqawi raising cain or not?

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

Also, I am more than happy to let you and Spammin have the board for a while. Your juvenile and one sided view will more than likely help the conservative movement. You see a lot of people in the country have seen what 40 years of democrat control of the legislative branch ahs done to the nation. Bush may not be the best conservative but something has to be done to cure the idea that government, of man, can provide for all of man’s shortcomings.

You see more government dependence equals more government power and hence more government corruption.

So have at it lads.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

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By Getitright

June 14, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

I thought this was supposed to be a place for commenting on Mikey’s cartoons. Looks like the goal of the DNC to make this into a forum for bypassing the Campaign Reform Act has suceeded.

“Others have talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein. Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get Nuclear Weapons.” Nancy Pelosi, D-CA, Congressional record 10/10/02

By deegee

June 14, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

Does anyone truly believe that there is a substantial difference between Democrats and Republicans? The RNC and the DNC run the parties and the politicians. It’s like pro wrestling, they huff and puff in front of the cameras and afterwards go have dinner and a drink with each other. They scratch each others’ back when it comes to voting and they know before the vote takes place whether it will pass or fail based on how much political capital was exchanged. If you believe that your representative really gives a flying freak about you and your vote then you must also believe pro wrestling is real.

Basically we all like political pandering when it goes our way. We detest it when it goes the other way. We all love our individual representative and hate everyone else’s. My suggestion is to show some backbone at the polls and vote against the incumbent no matter what you think of them. It’s the only way we will eventually rid politics of the arrogance that has ripped us apart at the seams.

By Crazy Out of Touch Liberal

June 14, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

Scooter - Yep. They had nothing to do with it.

YEA!!!

You are correct, for once.

By All The Good People In The World Are Liberals, Yea!!

June 14, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

What makes a liberal a liberal? It’s a question I’ve been asking myself lately, perhaps because every liberal I meet nowadays seems to ask me how in the world I could be a conservative. My stock answer is that I’d love to be a liberal because, you know, chicks dig the progressives. But also because I’d love to resolve debates with clever rejoinders like “Halliburton!” or “Fox News!” or “Karl Rove!,” and because I’d love to engage in intellectual group hugs rather than confront awkward truths, and because I’d love to show how my heart is in the right place by supporting benevolent-sounding but historically discredited social policies which end up devastating the very communities they’re intended to benefit. So, yes, I’d love to be a liberal … except these pesky I.Q. points keep getting in the way.

By Timmy

June 14, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this

Man, looks like these democraps that are posting on this blog really have way too much time on their hands. Liberalism is a disease and those that are infected with it should be exterminated.

By joewilson

June 14, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Rove lied to you, but that is par for the course, but told the FBI the truth

That is why he is not indicted. The GOP thinks that they do not have to tell the truth to the American people because you will believe anything.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

deegee- Well said and I agree 1000%. Until then, the only cure for gutter politics is to get right in the gutter with ‘em and wallow!

By GodHatesTrash

June 14, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

Scooter, little buddy, did you go by The Highlander last night? God hates that place.

Since I ate pig last night, I had a conservative movement this morning.

By All The Good People In The World Are Liberals, Yea!!

June 14, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

After failure and guilt, a third obvious cause of the liberal worldview is sin. There is, of course, nothing inherently sinful about the politics of liberalism. But in its modern incarnation, liberalism not only takes to heart the Enlightenment values of tolerance and skepticism, it hoists them aloft as intellectual torches and bears them forward in search of the dreaded Frankenstein Monster of moral judgment. Modern liberals deplore moral judgment—except in their collective outrage at conservatives—because they’ve decided, in their own lives, to abandon the doctrinal elements of Judeo-Christian morality in favor of an ethic whose guiding principle is, in the words of noted Shakespearean dunderhead Polonius, “To thine own self be true.” Hence, the liberal mantra, I’m not religious, but I consider myself a spiritual person. Roughly, this translates into: I don’t want to give up on an afterlife, but I don’t want to be judged by the stuff I’m doing. Liberals, therefore, seethe with resentment towards public displays of traditional faith out of fear such faith carries with it an implicit condemnation of their personal choices.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

No, not last night. You shouldn’t eat devil swine if you are so concerned about god’s feelings. You know cloven hoofs and all. But, I fit doesn’t matter to you The Yacht Club has a good brisket, maybe you would want to try it.

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

By GodHatesTrash

June 14, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this

There should be lots of con gloating about Campbell’s incarceration today.

Since the con scum is too fat and lazy to lynchmob any more, cyberspace has become an outlet for their hatred and violence.

Would these bloodthirsty sumbritches get their fat angry arses to Iraq, and let some decent folks come home!

GHT,

Leave it to a twisted Lib like you to:

1) Post angry and unhinged comments, and then have the gall to complain about other people using cyberspace to vent their “hatred”.

2) Find a non-existent analogy between Bill Campbell’s trial and The Iraq War

3) Make incorrect psychic predictions about conservatives (think Ann Coulter) being fat. Like Michael Moore?

freaking idiot

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

After failure and guilt, a third obvious cause…

Andy thinks that because his girlie-friend Anne Coulter trashes the Jersey girls ‘cause they are “hiding behind their husband’s deaths”, that liberals will trash the church when he is “hiding behind the robes of the clergy”.

Andy doesn’t understand, that is a move from the “REPUBLICAN PLAYBOOK”. My church would own him but his would not own me (or you unless you parroted his blasphemies)!

By deegee

June 14, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

Thank you, Andy. And to further my argument for those that are convinced that politics is real…remember that voting districts are gerrymandered in such a way that there are very few surprises on election day. The only way to beat them at their own game is to vote against the incumbent. Remember that for the last 30-odd years we have had big government, high taxes, dependence on foreign oil, trade deficits, budget deficits, deficit spending, social problems, government corruption, illegal immigration, etc. etc. We have seen Democrat and Republican, liberal and conservative movements and nothing has changed. We taxpayers are taking the double banana every day and keep bending over. Stand up for once!

By Chris

June 14, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this

Spammin like Andy,

Your post at the top of this blog was the greatest Blog I have ever read, it belongs in the Blog Hall of Fame.

Lately it seems the right has been so caught up with trying to remake the world in their own image that they don’t even notice how screwed up their own party has become.

If the people on the right looked at themselves with the same skepticism they looked at people on the left, we would finally have a viable third party in this country. Truth is I agree with some of the ideas the more logical people on the right have, but I can’t stand the fact that the party is held hostage by holier than thou religious zealots who are really just criminals taking advantage of religious people.

I support Democrats now, but I know that when they are in power I will quickly become disgusted with them too. America needs a viable third party that actually represents Americans and not special intersts which both parties are guilty of.

By GodHatesTrash

June 14, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

@ All the Good People,

Good post. I am a Christian liberal, fighting against immorality.

The southron, with his/her looooong history of violent stupidity, laziness, rape, incest, child molestation, child abuse, con artistry, lynching, murder, poor hygiene, sloth, warrantless pride, envy of the north, alcoholism, prostitution, meth abuse, spreading STDs, life on the down-low, is a moral contagion sweeping the land. Their filthy morals and mindset predominates now not just in Dixie but in the West and has spread even to the rural and suburban areas of the north and California. A child is likely better off being raised by wolves than by many southron “families”.

My frustration is - how do we lift a people so far down in the gutter in their mind, body, and spirit? Why has God abandoned America to such depravity of mind, the insanity of Bush’s sheep herd?

Can you help with some insight here? Maybe Mr. Wooten will address this in a future column?

By GodHatesTrash

June 14, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

@ Buy

You’re right, Buy. Many cons are skinny - meth and alcohol abuse affects many peoples’ bodies that way.

Take a shower with soap. Stop drinking your breakfast. Read a newspaper. Stop hitting your wife and kids.

Or take that anger to Fallujah where you can act it out more usefully.

Or God will keep hating you.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

No third party will become viable unless the voters make it viable. I have almost always voted Libertarian and will continue. It sends a strong message to the political fat cats that I for one want less government. The Republicrats and the Democrats can…

By Chris

June 14, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

In order to fix Congress and have a body more representative of the people and not wacko’s like Tom Delay or Cynthia Mckinney we need to do two things:

Establish an Independent Redistricting Commission in every state to draw up the district lines. There are some great models around the country already. Today the majority of districts are all Democrat or All Republican and you end up with partisan hacks who refuse to compromise and act like rival kids on a playground in elementary school. Making the Districts forces politicans to answer to moderates and not just the wackos on the fringes of either party.

Public Funding for Elections. There are smart ways to do this and some states have already done this. It’s not welfare for politicians, it ensures the people get better more diverse pool of candidates and it can ensure that politicians don’t have to suck up to big money interests to finance their campaign.

If we can do these things America will be a better place with more responsible politicians, if we don’t then the partisian bickering will never stop. How does the current system serve the people?

By The Moderate Voice

June 14, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

Chris, you bring up two good points. Gerrymandering and political donations have gotten way out of hand. Politics is no longer about representing the people, its about representing what special interest has donated the most money to your campaign. And it is rampant across both parties. Those who claim otherwise are blinded by their own partisan beliefs. Its just like saying one party is more corrupt than the other. The posts at the top of this page could just as easily about the democrats.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

LOL, Lucko — look at Mayor Bill sweatin’! All corrupt, self-serving, bribing officials need to have the book thrown at ‘em. Maybe spending 8 years in prison like Schrenko, or 2-1/2 years like Campbell, will show all officials the price they may pay for their arrogance.

By Clues4theClueless

June 14, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

All the Good,

The problem with your statement is that the idiotic “religion” practiced by most so-called Christians in America - and especially in the South - is flag worship, money worship, SUV worship, gun worship, etc. - and ancestor worship.

Bush’s god is, of course, Mammon. The southern clergy are mostly conmen and liars.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

OK, Chris has brought an idea forward and God Hates Trash has brought… well compassion I guess.

By joewilson

June 14, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

Very true. Both parties suck.

We are their boss, lets fire them.

By Dusty

June 14, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

God Hates Trash-

Your posts go far beyond anything that could be called religious. And if by southron you mean southern, you are unable to make truthful statements or any without prejudice.

You don’t need to be posting on a blog. It is obvious that you are not far from the deep end. Please save us the embarrassment of watching you go down hill. Stop making your illogical and untrue statements here.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

Chris, I think we also need to update the Electoral College, which I believe is only set up to recognize “Blue” vs. “Red” states when deciding the outcome of our presidential elections. They need to start recognizing “Green” states as well.

By deegee

June 14, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

And another point, politics is now like one huge pile of dung. I believe that the only people who want to be in politics are people that are attracted to dung. If we clean the dung out of politics then maybe we could attract a better class of politicians. It won’t happen overnight but we could at least start this year.

By Mrs. Libby

June 14, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

Spammin like Andy,

Your post at the top of this blog was the greatest Blog I have ever read, it belongs in the Blog Hall of Fame.

I liked that post the first time you cut and pasted it, I loved it the one thousandth time you cut and pasted it.

It made me cry the hundredth time I saw it on the Huffington Post.

I named my first child after it when I saw it for the first time on Kos, the boy’s name is Tired.

You are so much of an inspiration to us, dragging your one post around cyberspace and shoving it down the whole world’s throat whenever something angers you, like American troops being found innocent of the slaughter of civilians, I know how those things upset you.

Keep up the good work, you lame a-ss pinko you!

By 3 To 1 Odds

June 14, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

Alright, now that Spammin Like Andy seems to be done making an a-ss out of themselves, and I held this thought to make sure I got every last silly thing out of them, who wants to bet me that that was finch?

Any takers?

By The Moderate Voice

June 14, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

Goldie, how would you set up the electoral college to represent “green states.” The still have to win the state to gain the electoral votes. The only other solution is to go to a direct election.

By You're Joking, Right?

June 14, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

By GTH June 14, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this @ All the Good People, My frustration is - how do we lift a people so far down in the gutter in their mind, body, and spirit? Why has God abandoned America to such depravity of mind, the insanity of Bush’s sheep herd?*

Why don’t you check out the mirror, you’ll find your answer.

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

GHT,

Are you a representative of Westover Baptist Church? Your rant sounds horribly familiar.

By getalife

June 14, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

Is it me or has Andy mellowed out with his hate rhetoric?

Did you take my advice and get the mental health help and meds I suggested?

By Let Him Be

June 14, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

Dusty: Let him speak, it is the best thing for our cause.

I wish his chorus, getagrip, was here to cheer him on.

They think every one is too stupid to see their BS.

Wrong again, as usual.

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

Green states? You mean to match that pond scum you float around in?

By Chris

June 14, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

The Moderate Voice,

I totally agree with you. The Republicans and Democrats have a monopoly on political power in this country and as a result both have become parties of corruption. Aside from the occasional bone they throw us, neither party serves the people anymore.

As it stands today I side more with the Democrats, but I know that when/if they get in power I will side more with the Republicans. I like the minority party in their efforts to win back the majority they actually talk a big game, but of course when they get in power it’s more of the same.

Political debates in this country have come to resemble more of a screaming match that quickly result in name calling. How is that resolving anything? We have serious issues facing this country and all we seem to want to do is slam the other parties ideas without even really listening to them just because they come from the other party. Since when is that the American way? I think our great country is heading down a dangerous path and unless we make some simple reforms that I think everyone can agree on the outlook looks bleak.

The current problem is that if a Democrat introduces a bill that takes drawing the districts out of the hands of the legislators then the Republicans will slam it, and the same holds true if Republicans were to introduce the same bill. What is a great idea gets destroyed by partisian politics because there are virtually no moderate normal people left.

I honestly don’t understand why Republicans wouldn’t support Independent Redistricting in Georgia, I know Sonny Perdue does because he recently created an Independent Redistricting Task Force to study how such a commission could be put in place in Georgia. It’s not like Republicans would lose their majority by making this happen. I guess when you have the power to choose your constituents you don’t want to give it up. To be fair, I am sure the Democrats would do the same thing.

By No contest

June 14, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

I’m voting for Andy, the smarm who invented spamming and namejacking here.

He’s already said he likes to “harass liberals”.

What better way to harass them than by posting garbage that he and his numbskull enablers can then blame on pinkos?

It was Andy’s spamming of huge Daily Kos posts that led to the bankers hours here. And his suck-up syncophants bought the lie that dumb pinkos were responsible.

Yeah. It’s Andy.

By Play that funky music white boy

June 14, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

Well to be one of the only ones actually commenting on the cartoon of today - and not regurgetating used up arguments and points made by mindless political pundits and smear rags - Great cartoon Mike, I attended the event you were at the Commerce Club last Thursday and after what you said, I couldn’t wait to see how you were going to “dishoner hizzoner” today. Keep it up. And hey, where are you “Mike hates Republicans” freaks today? Mike, and most of us, hate people who have issues with the truth and subjective morality, regardless of party.

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Bush Upbeat About Iraqis Securing Country

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

EXCLUSIVE: ANN COULTER SCORES #1 BOOK WITH 48,408 SOLD, ACCORDING TO BOOKSCAN… TIM RUSSERT ‘FATHERS’ 33,563 COPIES… ANDERSON COOPER 29,447… DEVELOPING…

Thank you for your support!

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

I’m all for sending a message to the republicrats this year but does anyone see anything wrong with the statement below? If not, we should remember it when we go to the polls.

To the statement, The more we allow people to depend on government the more powerful government becomes and that power will create more corruption.

When was the last time you saw a Democrat controlled congress write legislation to limit public dependence on government.

By Mad Scientist Al

June 14, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

Professor Bob Carter of the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, in Australia gives what, for many Canadians, is a surprising assessment: “Gore’s circumstantial arguments are so weak that they are pathetic. It is simply incredible that they, and his film, are commanding public attention.”

Carter is one of hundreds of highly qualified non-governmental, non-industry, non-lobby group climate experts who contest the hypothesis that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are causing significant global climate change. “Climate experts” is the operative term here. Why? Because what Gore’s “majority of scientists” think is immaterial when only a very small fraction of them actually work in the climate field.

Lie to us Al! Lie! Tell us how you invented the internet!

By Play that funky music white boy

June 14, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

Frog March - source please on the book sales. Thanks.

By I'll take that bet

June 14, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

3 to 1 Odds, I’ll take the bet. Look back and you’ll see one poster that uses yahoo links almost exclusively. Some people are just too obvious, like getagrip posting as joewilson.

By America Haters

June 14, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

One cable-news anchor yesterday asked if Bush’s visit to Iraq was a “publicity stunt.” Her own network’s correspondent shot that down, on-air. True reporters know a missile can kill a president as easily as a private.

The Gitmo suicide-trifecta was the real publicity stunt. This accurate statement should never have been retracted: It was an act of asymmetrical warfare. And every save-the-terrorists jerk behind a mike knows it in his or her shriveled bleeding heart.

By getalife

June 14, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Speaking of cheerleader

No wonder the world is messing with W. Nice hat.

By More Chutzpah Then You Maggot Libs Will Ever Have

June 14, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

The American president can go to Baghdad. And our enemies can’t stop him. And the White House didn’t black out news of this visit until the prez was wheels-up for home; word broke while he was still in the Green Zone. One big Bronx cheer for the bad guys - for whom Bush’s visit was a humiliation.

By clark

June 14, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this

Chris,

Sad, but true.

By Daniel

June 14, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this

Bush has betrayed America. We are a nation of fat slobs dependent upon government borrowing, now 2 billion a day. We are suckers for the deficit, now 8 trillion. Bush has bloated big government and our dependence upon it. Name the last president to balance a budget?

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

Danish, and Red is the color of blood— You know, like the blood that’s on the Repugnants’ hands for invading and occupying Iraq, and killing and maiming 100,000+ humans in the process.

Be proud of your Party, oh righteous Dictator!

By getalife

June 14, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

Yea Andy,

Thanks to your new rules, you got RW in trouble with the AJC.

Rah, rah, Andy.

By Play that funky music white boy

June 14, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

Scooter, Sorry to insert a cogent answer to your question - Welfare reform during the Clinton years - a true bipartisan effort by a Democrat controlled White house and Senate and a Republican controlled congress. So, no the Dems were not in control of the House during that period.

Do you know that there are only 8000 people in a state (GA) of 9 million people collect welfare benefits now? That’s .08 percent. I would say that is a pretty nice limitation on government dependence. Amazing what can happen when people actually work together in Washington to their strengths.

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

Mike, and most of us, hate people who have issues with the truth and subjective morality, regardless of party.

PTFMWB,

Nice attempt to get chummy with ML, but I don’t know that he, or anyone, would enjoy having you speak for them.

It might be wise for you to speak for yourself and let others speak for themselves.

freaking brown-nosing idiot

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

Bush’s visit forced the media to briefly stop whining about the phony issues of Haditha and Gitmo and to acknowledge that Iraq has a free, functioning government. But for ambitious journalists, inventing or exaggerating American misdeeds will always be more rewarding than telling the truth: Zarqawi’s death was written off, while Haditha was written up.

Still, glints of truth force their way through. And the truth is: We’ve got a president with guts; our efforts in Iraq are paying off, and their new government is far more important to Iraqis than Gitmo or Haditha.

Yesterday, President Bush dominated the news. And the news was good. Tomorrow, the America-haters in the press will try again to convince you that nothing our president, our soldiers or free Iraqis do can make a difference.

By What, Are You Crippled?

June 14, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

By Play that funky music white boys June 14, 2006 11:40 AM Frog March - source please on the book sales.

By Frog March This June 14, 2006 11:34 AM EXCLUSIVE: ANN COULTER SCORES #1 BOOK WITH 48,408 SOLD, ACCORDING TO BOOKSCAN…

By save the liver!

June 14, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this

maybe Andy or whatever his name is didn’t post all of todays spam. But I blame him for it anyway. Anyone who dared disagree with his Andy-ness was pinko gay or worse. He set the tone of this place. A true bedwetter.

His cheerleaders like RW Danish and dusty are just as responsible.

you reap what you sow.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

Play That Funky…, agreed. It expired last year (?) and Bush is trying to get it renewed.

What was the percentage of welfare recipients in New Orleans when Katrina hit? Did you know the President is forbidden from using the military within our borders?

By No More Government Spending?

June 14, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

By Daniel June 14, 2006 11:47 AM Bush has betrayed America. We are a nation of fat slobs dependent upon government borrowing, now 2 billion a day.

Did I hear this correctly, Mrs. Panty Waist? You want to cut Katrina relief, medicaid, medicare, social security, the ACLU, Planned Parenthood and all the other lib handout programs?

Or are you just lashing out blindly again, enveloped in stupid rage?

By Daniel

June 14, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

Would someone please tell us the last president to balance a budget. gal: Great photo. Scooter: Yes, I agree with your statement. Tell us when the conservatism is going to start.

By Chris

June 14, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

I don’t understand why people don’t think that humans are at least partially responsible for the phenomenon know as Global Warming. I doubt that we are causing all of the climate changes we have seen in the past 2 decades, but where do you think all the gases we emit from our vehicles and smoke stacks go? It doesn’t just go away into outerspace. If it is a fact that increased levels of CO2 act as a blanket and make it harder for heat escape then it logically follows that if we continue to pump millions upon millions of tons of it into the Atmosphere it would have at least some effect.

Now I don’t think we should cause our economy to grind to a halt and completely change our way of living, but what is wrong with reducing pollution? How can anyone be against reducing pollution? Who wants to live in garbage? It is an odd position to take and I suspect it has more to do with partisian politics than anything else.

Sure reducing pollution might cause a slight increase in prices because it requires that we develop and implement certain technologies that are more expensive, but if the benefit is cleaner air to breath, cleaner rivers, lakes and streams to fish in or just enjoy, how can anyone be against that? Also, doesn’t the development of new technologies create jobs and a market for such products.

Can some rational person explain to me how you can be against reducing pollution.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Bush’s visit forced the media to briefly stop whining about the phony issues of Haditha and Gitmo and to acknowledge that Iraq has a free, functioning government.

Frog March— if Iraq is “free and functioning” as you claim, how come Bush was able to fly into that country UNANNOUNCED to meet with the Prime Minister? What other “free and functioning” government would ever allow that to happen? Do you really think the new P.M. of Iraq is in charge of the goings-on in that country?

By Play that funky music white boy

June 14, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish - that was a direct quote, not speaking for him, just quoting him. And how do you know Mike isn’t my boss?

WAYCrippled, I don’t know why but I didn’t see that the first time through, then saw it after I hit submit. Not crippled, just lost it in the ALL CAPS format and data.

By Ricky

June 14, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Daniel, if you want to be completely honest, the only reason Clinton balanced the budget was because of the Republican Congress. Just go back and read the Contract with America, its there. Remember when the government was shut down? That was related to balancing the budget. Newt did that to make Clinton agree to balance the budget. Do you know who the last President before Clinton was to balance the budget?

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

There was no last President to balance the budget. The budget is Constitutionally the responsibility of Congress. It’s one of the reasons that the Supreme Court struck down the line item veto.

Do you guys just pick and choose from the Constitution like it was a menu in a Chinese restaurant?

By If It Were That Simple

June 14, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

By Chris June 14, 2006 12:07 PM I don’t understand why people don’t think that humans are at least partially responsible for the phenomenon know as Global Warming.

Why can’t Gore be honest about it if it is as harmless as you say?

Could it be his true intentions are to wreck the economy of the United States?

The dude has a major league gripe with the internal combustion engine. Can’t you even fathom what that means?

And how weird it is?

By Play that funky music white boy

June 14, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

Scooter, I heard the welfare reform statistics only on Georgia from Dick Williams. Did some research here in the state and found that it was correct. I don’t know the NOLA numbers, however - I can guarantee you that it is much less than in 1990, and I’m only talking Fed assistance. States vary so wildly on their benefits packages - like unemployment. I had a friend in “taxachussetes” that got laid off, no worries, he got 80% of his pay for six months. In GA, the max is $250 a week. I wouldn’t be astounded if NOLA had a pretty healthy safety net for people, but I don’t know.

By There's 150,000 American Soldiers There?

June 14, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

By Goldie June 14, 2006 12:07 PM Frog March— if Iraq is “free and functioning” as you claim, how come Bush was able to fly into that country UNANNOUNCED to meet with the Prime Minister? What other “free and functioning” government would ever allow that to happen? Do you really think the new P.M. of Iraq is in charge of the goings-on in that country?

By Sorry

June 14, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

By Play that funky music white boy June 14, 2006 12:08 PM WAYCrippled, I don’t know why but I didn’t see that the first time through

Pardon me for the “crippled” comment, I may have been a little harsh. You jumped at the Ann book sales like a lib would have.

By getalife

June 14, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

Joe Wilson was here.

Cool.

Daniel,

Bill Clinton.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

Can some rational person explain to me how you can be against reducing pollution.

Chris, as long as the Repugs continue to be controlled by the Big Oil interests, America will continue to go on polluting needlessly, at least until we can get Dems in control of Congress again… and why this November’s elections are so critical to returning some sanity to America again. So far I’ve only heard liberals putting forth ideas for alternative fuel sources that we could be using in our cars, such as ideas suggested by Tom Daschle, Robert Redford and Russ Feingold.

By getalife

June 14, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

Speaking of welfare, factor in illegals and Iraq and adjust your figures.

Bankrupt to China.

By getalife

June 14, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Big oil.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

Daniel, teh conservatism is not going to start anytime soon, now that the republicrats have engaged in vote buying with our tax dollars. They learned from the best. Like Michael Savage once said, years ago, we can take the scenic train to sociaism and vote republicrat, or we can take the bullet train and vote democrat.

Hey Daniel, would someone tell us when the President began to spend Conress’s money. Was that budget actualy balanced or projected to be balanced?

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You’re slipping, the message should have been:

Yea Andy,

Thanks to your new rules, you got RW in trouble with the AJC.

So not only did you identify the wrong culprit, you failed to pimp the site you mentioned.

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

With U.S. ticket sales slow, Chicks head north of border

Watch out for the terrorists, girls!

You are now leaving the relative safety of the country you hate so much and entering the vast wild plains of terrorist appeasement. Don’t get on the train!

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

The dude has a major league gripe with the internal combustion engine. Can’t you even fathom what that means?

Simple— do you know that the country of Brazil is now utilizing ethanol in their cars, to the extent that they no longer have to import any oil? How come the U.S. allows a South American country to get ahead of us in having a self-sustaining energy policy? OK, so we’ve lost our edge in science and math, but we’re also going to follow other countries’ lead in energy policy, too?

By Daniel

June 14, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Ricky: Ok. I don’t care how it got done. Balance is balance. Why haven’t this pack of liberal free spenders balanced one budget? Before Clinton neither Bush 1, nor RWR balanced a budget. Perhaps, I’m guessing, Ford? You tell us. RW: Of course, the president has the power of veto. No, I don’t pick and choose I, and the rest of America, aches for economy, efficiency, competence, honesty, decency and conservatism in our government. Andy: I will not respond to you until you: Lopse weight, get a job, get off the dole and act nice.

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

The person that has spent the most time, from the loudest pulpit talking about alternative fuel sources is President Bush.

By Play that funky music white boy

June 14, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Sorry,

I appreciate the forgiveness - am I a liberal.. not entirely, but what funky white boy could be a true conservative either?

Although Ann does make me sick, so does Michael Moore. I would rather have her sit on my lap than him though. Is she married? I believe I have the Kwan to turn her to the darkside - it would be impossible for her to have all that hate for liberals in her heart after she went “ten rounds with the champ”. Let me assure you, she wouldn’t hate anyone but God for making me so irresistable.

By Frog March This

June 14, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Ooops, not clear enough:

With U.S. ticket sales slow, Dixie Chicks head north of border

Watch out for the terrorists, girls!

You are now leaving the relative safety of the country you hate so much and entering the vast wild plains of terrorist appeasement. Don’t get on the train!

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry, the budget was in fact balanced. I was thinking national debt.

By Dusty

June 14, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

Save the liver,

You sound a little bilious today. Eyeballs getting yellow?

Andy uses free speech with an expert touch. Whether I agree with him or not, does not change his opinions. Most of them hammer out the truth in an honest, referable manner. In other words, he can back up what he says.

If you want to talk about the current topic instead of name calling, let’s start with the crooked Bill Campbell. Do you think the Feds got him for income tax fraud or for violating the watering ban?

By Washington Post Editorial

June 14, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

Hey, hey, welcome aboard y’all:

But what Mr. Bush can do is give the government some precious time by continuing to provide American troops and aid to a regime that is nowhere near able to defend itself or rebuild the country on its own. In Baghdad yesterday and in an administration conference at Camp David on Monday, the president didn’t talk about any drawdown of U.S. troops, despite long-standing Pentagon plans to cut the U.S. force from 130,000 to as few as 100,000 by the end of this year — and mounting pressure in Congress to go through with the cut regardless of the consequences.

If Democratic leaders such as Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.) had their way, almost all U.S. troops would be out of Iraq by the end of 2006 — a blow that Mr. Maliki’s government almost certainly could not survive. Mr. Bush’s willingness — at least for now — to resist such politically expedient demands may not rescue Iraq’s fledgling political system; it may be that nothing can at this point. But he is — correctly and courageously — using what remains of his personal political capital to give Iraqi democracy a chance.- Washington Post, 6/14/06

By Play that funky music white boy

June 14, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Bankrupt to China? 1% of China’s GDP (Gross Domestic Production) can be tied directly to Bentonville, Arkansas. And that figure is remaining constant or growing calculated quarterly. Would you ever mistreat your best customer?

By Chris

June 14, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

If It Were That Simple,

I am not going to speak for Al Gore, he believes what he does and we don’t have to agree with him. I doubt his intention is to wreck the economy of the U.S., that sounds kind of silly, but even if that is his secret intention who cares. Worrying about Al Gore and his secret intentions doesn’t solve anything.

I (independent from Al Gore) think that we can do a better job of protecting our environment. I am not an avid outdoosman or anything, but I do like to fish on occasion and I enjoy getting away and going on a camping trip a couple times of year. I also like breathing clean air when I go running.

I don’t want to do anything irrational with the economy I just think it is a good idea to do something to reduce the level of pollution. I don’t think that it is the all or nothing argument many people try to frame it as. We can reduce pollution to a sustainable level and yes it may cost a little more, but if it means I can eat the fish I catch or breath a little easier in the summer then I am all for that. HOw can you not be?

I like my job and the last thing I want is for the economy to go sour because we have regulated the heck out of eveything for some misguided attempt at protecting the enviroment. But who says it has to be like that? Where does this idea that it is regulate everything or regulate nothing come from?

Where have all the normal people gone in this debate? I know everyone cares about the enviroment on some level, and I know that there are wackos on both sides that try to hijack this argument and frame it in a way so that it is either catastrophic for the earth or for the economy. There has to be people out there that can see it for what it is, a problem that we can fix without causing a major breakdown in the economy or totally changing our way of life.

So again I repeat my question, how can any rational person be against reducing pollution?

By Breath Into The Bag, Dearie

June 14, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

By Goldie June 14, 2006 12:25 PM Simple— do you know that the country of Brazil is now utilizing ethanol in their cars, to the extent that they no longer have to import any oil?

Goldilocks, hun, it takes more gasoline to produce ethanol than the process yields.

Nice uneducated hysterical thought, though.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

When was the last time you saw a Democrat controlled congress write legislation to limit public dependence on government.

When was the last (err FIRST) time that Bush refused to sign off on a pork barrel budget like Clinton did when HE shut down government on more than one occasion until the Republican congress finally conceded and presented him a compromise budget with some measure of restraint?

By Chris

June 14, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

What does it say about the state of politics in this country when we always frame arguments as all or nothing? This whole notion people have now that either:

Republicans are all right and Dems are all wrong.

or

the Dems are all right and Republicans are all wrong.

There are good and bad in both parties, as a society we use to know that. I have a lot of friends on both sides of the aisle and when we talk politics they always want me to peg as one of them or one of the others. Politics have gotten so partisan it’s enough to make you not even want to participate anymore.

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

Chris,

Let’s break down your straw man question a little. Would you mind telling us exactly who it is that you see as being against a reduction in pollution?

By Were Not, We're Against Algore

June 14, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

By Chris June 14, 2006 12:36 PM So again I repeat my question, how can any rational person be against reducing pollution?

Look at Time Ragazine, Be Afraid!

Listen to Gore, 20 foot rise in sea level!

Hear NASA, the Ice Caps Are Melting!

This is agenda talk^^.

Calm down the rhetoric and let’s discuss it rationally.

By Play that funky music white boy

June 14, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Spammin… you know the answer to this question - let’s play with history a moment shall we? Bush is “paying back” those that helped him get the Iraq war going and have supported him throughout an unpopular engagement (unpopular in the sense that the country is at the least about 50/50 on it).
Now, if Clinton’s healthcare package had somehow made it, and came into being, my position is that keeping it alive through what would have been unbelievable attacks from health insurers, medical practitioners, scared seniors (don’t mess with their medicine), and the media (don’t you know the first “screwup” in the new system would have been front page news for weeks) would have taken about as much political capital as prosecuting the Iraq war has - therefore, I believe we would have seen a different second term of Clinton’s, though the economic effects would have been minimalized by the outstanding market of 19960-2000. In other words, no surplus years. Oh my God, did I just defend “Dubya”? I need to go take a shower.

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

Spammin’

Clinton said he was shutting down the government because the Congress was cutting too much not because they were spending too much.

His words not mine.

By finch

June 14, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this

Goodness! You can teach an old dog new tricks!

WASHINGTON, June 14 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush acknowledged on Wednesday that the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where three detainees committed suicide, has damaged the U.S. image abroad and said it should be shut down.

Quite an admission for a President who once said he couldn’t recall any mistakes.

By Ricky

June 14, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

Daniel, if you don’t care how the budget got balanced then why frame the question to get the answer you want? Eisenhower was the last to balance the budget before Clinton. My point, it doesn’t matter. We need to get it done. I have been very disappointed in the way this adminstration has spent money. They have not acted like conservatives, but instead like big government liberals. Hopefully this will change in 08.

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

By Play that funky music white boy

June 14, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish - that was a direct quote, not speaking for him, just quoting him. And how do you know Mike isn’t my boss?

If you work for the AJC as you imply, then you of all people should know that quotes are meant to have quotation marks around them.

Goldie,

You could not even manage a round of applause at the news of Zarqawi’s death, and had to practically spit out an acknowledgement of the event, so I don’t need any sanctimonious lectures from you about who is on the wrong or right side of evil.

Let me explain this to you very simply before I leave for the day:

No thanks to you, We got rid of a dictator head of a terrorist state in Iraq, and the Taliban in Afghanistan. For someone like yourself who admires dictators in places like Cuba and Argentina, you have a hell of a lot of nerve throwing the “dictator” word around.

Furthermore, war is hell and no sane person derives joy from it. However, it is also necessary , and I find it ironic that it is YOU who accuses ME of bloodletting yet it is you who delights in every soldier’s death in the hopes that it will weaken our resolve as a nation and our nation’s support for our President.

When Americans are cheering for our defeat on the battlefield, they deserve all the acrimony that is thrown at them, and calling us names does not make you any less despicable.

I’m out of here.

By getalife

June 14, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

Shutting down Congress.

Brilliant!

Best idea I have heard in a long time.

A cheer for RW

By Chris

June 14, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

RW,

Apparently some people on this blog are against it. I was addressing a comment made earlier about global warming. Maybe I framed my question wrong because I think the majority of Americans would like less pollution. I guess what I was really getting at is who can really be for doing nothing to reduce pollution.

Also, why do you say I am making a straw man argument? I think you have been blogging to long and are jaded because you obviously think I have hidden intentions. Which is typical when you debate anything today. RW I would say you are a big part of the problem because you can’t take an argument for what it is you have to make it seem like I have a secret agenda.

See you have already hijacked the topic and now turned from discussing why we can’t have rational discussion on reducing pollution to you trying to out me for having a secret agenda.

Go read my earlier posts again and respond to the subject not what you think my hidden agenda is.

By Cotton

June 14, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

It’s a shame that the sentence wasn’t more harsh…he is a disgrace to his people and the citizens of Atlanta that he duped! And for him to be appaled is a joke!!!!

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

finch,

Speaking of tricky dogs, why did you use the writers interpretation of what President Bush said when two paragraphs down you had what he really said?

“I’d like to close Guantanamo, but I also recognize that we’re holding some people there that are darn dangerous and that we better have a plan to deal with them in our courts,” Bush told a news conference in the White House Rose Garden.

By Cotton

June 14, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this

It’s a shame that the sentence wasn’t more harsh…he is a disgrace to his people and the citizens of Atlanta that he duped! And for him to be appaled is a joke!!!!

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 01:10 PM | Link to this

RW- You know as well as I that the debates at the time went both ways. Clinton wanted more for social spending but he, also, wanted LESS for Republican causes. The Republican position was the opposite.

The point is that Clinton actually DID stop the runaway spending by refusing to sign off on the pork and the compromise budgets were considerably less than those initially proposed by Congress. When the government spent less, the people got more and the country prospered.

By Play that funky music white boy

June 14, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish - don’t you have any sense of humor? No I don’t work at the AJC! No Mike isn’t my boss. He’s a cartoonist that works mainly from his home. What are you daft? Oh wait, let me read further in your post… Saddam… Afghanistan… hey Danish, didn’t we militarily and economically support both of those regimes in the 80’s, basically assisting Saddam and the Taliban in gaining power? Go read a book - wait one - go read a book written by a scholar. I just new he was going to run out and grab Godless.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this

it takes more gasoline to produce ethanol than the process yields.

Breathe— so you’re obviously a real Einstein about ethanol processing… how does Brazil do it and NOT have to import any oil to sustain their economy?

Nice try with your uneducated right-wing talking point, tho’.

By The Moderate Voice

June 14, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

Goldie, it costs more money to produce ethanol than gasoline. The question becomes it is worth spending more money to produce ethanol than it is to continue importing foreign oil. Or how about drilling in ANWAR and off the coast of Florida? It comes down to what you value more, cheap production costs or less dependence on foreign oil. And why critize people for posting talking points when you do the same?

By getalife

June 14, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this

GOP email on Iraq strategy:

Exploit 9/11. The two page memo mentions 9/11 seven times. It describes debating Iraq in the context of 9/11 as “imperative.”

Attack opponents ad hominem. The memo describes those who opposes President Bush’s policies in Iraq as “sheepish,” “weak,” and “prone to waver endlessly.”

Create a false choice. The memo says the decision is between supporting President Bush’s policies and hoping terrorist threats will “fade away on their own.”

By Daniel

June 14, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

Ricky: I agree. It doesn’t matter. The discussion of policy used to occur in the context of economy. Now, we have Big Government borrowing like mad. America is fed tax cuts with funds borrowed from Asia? Why is this a good thing for the USA? The interest alone is 27 Billion a month. We borrow 2 Billion a day! We need to get real. If we fail to put our economic house in order others will do it for us. That will be real painful. Now, policy discussions occur in the context of cash pay-outs to cronies. America, her children and grandchildren are forgotten.

By Play that funky music white boy

June 14, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

should have used knew instead of new to Danish. Like that old joke, what does the “N” stand for on the Nebraska football helmet? Knowledge.

By Ricky

June 14, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this

Dem party email on Iraq: -Exploit 9/11. Make the terrorist attacks appear to be all Bush’s fault. Claim Clinton did everything he could to stop Osama. -Attack opponents ad hominem. The memo describes those who support Bush’s policies in Iraq as “neo-cons”, “blind followers”, and “optimists.” -Creat a false choice. The memo says Dems just need to act like they have a strategy and continually attack the adminstration while being carefully not to support Cindy and Jack too much.

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

Chris,

When you asked your question for the second time without ever giving an indication of who you meant I took it as a straw man that you were setting up. Maybe it was just a very badly worded question. Do you have a point you want to discuss or is it sufficient for you to tell me I am the problem?

Spammin’,

There was a reason I said they were Clinton’s words and not mine.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

The person that has spent the most time, from the loudest pulpit talking about alternative fuel sources is President Bush.

LOL — oh, you are the funny one today, RW!

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Daniel, I’m assuming you confused me for Ricky, while Ricky seems like a cool cat, he is not I. You asked; Ricky: Ok. I don’t care how it got done. Balance is balance. Why haven’t this pack of liberal free spenders balanced one budget? Before Clinton neither Bush 1, nor RWR balanced a budget.

I certainly agree that republicrats are not good at balancing budgets and I know you are mad, but can you understand some of the following: CEO’s became corrupt when Bush came into office (sarc) and imploded early in Bush’s first term. The economy was streaming along real sound during the last months of Clinton’s Presidency but the GDP began to slide when Bush took office (sarc). Terrorist from the Middle-East attacked us on 9/11 and this shook investor’s and consumer’s confidence. The wars that were pursued after 9/11 are rather expensive. Do you think any of these things played into the current budget deficits? While I used to be peeved at Bush for not using his line item veto powers, I have recently learned he does not have those powers. Also, it could be argued that RWR used budget deficits to financially collapse the Soviet Union. Believe me I’m not totally excusing it, just trying to give it a fair shake.

However, U.S. District Court Judge Thomas F. Hogan decided on February 12, 1998 that unilateral amendment or repeal of only parts of statutes violated the U.S. Constitution. This ruling was subsequently affirmed on June 25, 1998 by a 6-3 decision of the Supreme Court of the United States in the case Clinton v. City of New York.

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Is that the same email you are always claiming exists, but you can never seem to produce it or is this another email that a friend of a friend told you about?

By Ricky

June 14, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

Scooter, what makes you say I am not a cool cat?

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Thank you, but what’s really funny is that my statement is true. I guess that old saying about truth being stranger than fiction is right.

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

how does Brazil do it and NOT have to import any oil to sustain their economy?

Goldie,

I’m back for a second. As usual, what you are saying is FALSE.

Why not do some research and have some facts at your disposal before you spit out kernels of misinformation? Try starting here

… Although Brazil is a major oil producer and now exports gasoline (19,000 m³/day), it still must import oil because of internal demand for other oil byproducts, chiefly diesel fuel (which cannot be easily replaced by ethanol). Et cetera et cetera.

funky white boy,

Sure thing dude. When you get caught, just claim that you were joking and that we don’t have a sense of humor.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this

Rice: No guarantees on Iraq, Afghanistan

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Wednesday that the U.S. military interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan do not assure those countries will become successful democracies. But she said the chance for success is worth the price.

Isn’t it nice that the Bush administration doesn’t mind GAMBLING with your hard earned tax dollars one little bit? We can all now see just how much faith the court of King George has in their own CRAP SHOOT!

By Chris

June 14, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

RW,

I actually had two points and sadly both of them were proven.

The first point I was trying to make was that those who are against measures that call for reducing pollution are not so much against reducing pollution as they are against anything that appears to be liberal, even though just about all of us agree that something should be done to reduce pollution. Just as long as it’s their party and not the other party.

The second point I was trying to make went hand in hand with the first, I was stating that there are serious problems facing out country but BOTH sides only want to blame each other and slam the other party’s ideas.

We are really good at pointing fingers and making accusations, but when it comes to actually fixing things we have become really bad. Assigning blame and making fun of the other side is not what made this country great.

I know that the left hypes up the global warming debate to a ridiculous level, but as a counter the right seems to want to frame it so that if we do anything about it our ecomony will grind to a halt. Maybe the right’s response is simply a backlash against the armageddon scenario painted by the left…we could analyze this all day and be no better for it.

I think the normal and rational people need to quit allowing the fringes of both parties to define issues for us, and I don’t think that will change unless we fix how we elect our legislators. Earlier I was advocating independent redistricting and public financing of elections as a way to solve this problem and bring sanity back to congress. I would like to hear your thoughts on that RW.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

It comes down to what you value more, cheap production costs or less dependence on foreign oil.

Voice— why not take it even further than that? How about producing a self-sustaining energy source, whether it’s ethanol, wind, solar power, etc.? Why continue to use a finite resource, whether it comes from the Middle East or the coast of FLA? Why continue to import oil from terrorist-supporting countries, such as Saudi Arabia? When should we stop supporting terrorists nations financially — once all of the oil is gone?

What do you propose instead, trusting the big oil companies to do what’s right? No talking points involved here — just tell me what you think a solution would be…

By The Moderate Voice

June 14, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

Spammin like Andy, do you think people minded FDR gambling with their tax dollars during WW 2? What about Clinton gambling with our tax dollars during Bosnia? To make that argument is based on blind partisan, but I don’t expect much from this blog or any blog because most of the people that post here are true partisans.

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

RW,

How is it that Getalife can quote from this email, but can never provide us a link to it? Maybe he works for the CIA and can only leak portions of it to Pulitzer Patriots?

As I recall, the last time he brought it up was when ML drew the cartoon that had Patrick Kennedy crashing into a tall building.

By getalife

June 14, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

RW,

Did you not get the memo?

I signed up with the GOP to get their talking points so I know what you will post before you post it. I have espn, if you will.

Here is the GOP strategy: 9/11 and boo.

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Spammin Like Andy (SLA?),

With buzzards like you swarming about, there’s no guarantee that even this country will sustain itself as a successful Democracy.

By Spammin Like Andy

June 14, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

Bush upbeat about Iraqis securing country

Yeh, yeh, yeh, “mission accomplished”, “the insurgents are on their last legs”, etc., etc., etc. Maybe this time the insurgents are on their LAST LAST legs! Guess “it depends on what your definition of” LAST is.

By The Moderate Voice

June 14, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Goldie, I am all for developing a self sufficient energy source, but that will take time. Until then we need to do everything we can to ween ourselves off foreign oil. That includes drilling in ANWAR and off the Florida coast. It also includes ethanol development, wind mills, and more nuclear plants. It will never happen because so many people are against the different parts of that plan. But that is what needs to be done.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this

Why not do some research and have some facts at your disposal before you spit out kernels of misinformation?

Oh Danish — you’re not another “Wiki” reader, are you? I thought we went over this before about how Wikipedia posts erroneous information in their “encyclopedia” — posting articles and such by unknown writers. Not a very good source to use.

My resource was a “60 Minutes” episode aired a few months ago, along with some other articles I’ve read in the MSM — so you can go ahead and try to tear down those sources. But please stop using Wikipedia here to support your nut-case agenda… they’ve long been discredited for accuracy.

By Daniel

June 14, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

Scooter: I’m sorry. Thank you for taking it well. I’m willing to agree much of those facts are true. My question is a simple one: When things get tough, do we abandon our principles? As I get older the basics seems most important. “Live within our means, work hard, save, tell the truth, small efficient and effective government, and so on.” This government has abandoned us. It seems preoccupied with image. It is something, it is not conservative. 9/11 should not become a catch-all excuse for excessive government spending.

By gadem

June 14, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this

Ricky, I think your Republican controlled Congress has defaulted on that contract many times over. And from your rationale, the deficit is Congresses fault and not Bush?

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I think you accidentally signed up for the Generalize, Obfuscate, and Plagiarize memo that the DNC puts out.

Chris,

First things first. As far as pollution reduction I think President Bush’s plan was one that would create short term pollution increases, but would accomplish the long term benefits much faster than President Clinton’s plan. I am not talking about the last minute executive orders Clinton signed when he finished pardoning all his massage parlor donors either.

Clinton’s program grandfathered in old technology that produced massive quantities of pollution, but made the company completely replace the entire operation to upgrade any piece of it. This caused companies to just keep the old units running. Bush said we should relax that standard and allow them to upgrade piece meal so that they would begin to reduce emissions even though they might go up in the short run.

I am all for geographic districting, like Iowa’s, but against public financing for campaigns. I am for unlimited contributions with full disclosure.

By Ricky

June 14, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

gadem, I will be the first to admit that the Congress from about 2000 has defaulted on the Contract with America. I blame the deficit on both Bush and Congress(both parties). Bush hasn’t vetoed any of the outrageous pork bills and neither party has refrained from adding pork to every bill. I know you probably think it is all the Republicans fault, but you haven’t seen any Dems standing up and trying to stop Robert Byrd from adding as much pork as possible.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this

Ricky, by no means did I mean you are not a cool cat. You see, I thought Daniel had us confused, so I was saying while you seem cool, you are not me. No, I like your objectivity and envy your service.

By N-GA

June 14, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

Sometimes I am amazed at what people will post as facts. Let me try to help:

“Renewable Energy Access has a recent article, “Setting the Record Straight on Ethanol” advocating the efficiency of ethanol. The article is written by Nathen Glasgow and Lena Hansen of the Rocky Mountain Institute who point out that enzymes now permit ethanol to be made from any cellulosic feedstocks and the advantages of this technology- growth on marginal land, higher energy yield per acre, and less energy input by the farmers because the crops are perennials. They refer to U.S. Department of Energy data which indicates that for every one unit of energy available at the fuel pump, 1.23 units of fossil energy are used to produce gasoline, 0.74 of fossil energy are used to produce corn-based ethanol, and only 0.2 units of fossil energy are used to produce cellulosic ethanol.

How smart do you feel now, Buy Danish?

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

Voice— I disagree when you say “it will never happen”. I have lots of hope that with the November elections, we’ll once again have a Dem majority in Congress. Then we can begin working on the really important issues facing us here in America, such as bringing our troops home from Iraq and pursuing alternative energy sources, etc. As opposed to what we have today in Congress: trying to amend the Constitution for flag burning and gay marriage. Good grief!

By Midori

June 14, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

ooooookay.

Today is a good day to take a break from this blog.

I see RW is still the original jack*ss and Ricky hasn’t parked the Mystery Machine yet.

And Andy is going to start shooting people from the top of the Big Chicken.

Later, tots.

By Chris

June 14, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

RW,

As for redistricting and public financing of elections, your answer is fair enough.

I don’t think Iowa’s plan would work in Georgia mostly because it is a lot easier to carve up a square with a relatively homogenous population with respect to race and distribution across the state than it is to carve up Georgia with a much is much more divers in both categories. Plus Iowa doesn’t have to concern itself with the ‘65 voting right act. There are other states with much more effective and efficient plans.

Did you know that Sonny Perdue has created a task force to study how an independent redistricting commission could work in Georgia?

I think this will have a much greater effect than public financing of elections, but I wouldn’t mind seeing some objective discussion on that either. How it would work, how candidates would qualify and most importantly where the money would come from. Thanks for your response.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

Daniel, I am stoked to see differing opinions can come to an understanding, isn’t America great. I can also understand your desire for the country to live within our means. My personal opinion is that debt is not necessarily a bad thing if it is used to create more wealth to pay what is owed.

To increase taxes to balance a budget (not saying that’s your solution) simply removes the money from the individuals that create the wealth and jobs that will pay down that debt. I think Bush’s first term brought with it much difficulty and I don’t think berating him for the things out of his control are helping anything except political partisanship.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this

Golly, I thought Ford was already making E85 vehicles. Give the free market time it will produce what the people demand and do it more efficiently than government. I credit the liberals with increasing awareness on these issues, if that makes anybody feel better.

Too bad Toyota and Honda are whooping our rears on hybrids.

By gadem

June 14, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

I know of atleast one Democrat that voted against their annual cost of living raise that they got. All Republicans wanted the raise. In my opinion none of them have done anything to warrant a raise.

By The Moderate Voice

June 14, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this

Goldie, this Congress is focues on multiple important issues. Winning the war on terror, alternative energy sources, immigration. Thinking that having a Dem majority will automatically make things better is short sighted. As has been discussed above, both parties are equally corrupt and IF the dems take back the majority they will focus on their special interests just like the Republicans do. Think about this if we had already brought the troops home like you want to, we would still have Zarqawi freely planning attacks against Americans. And before you say he was a creation of the US invasion, keep in mind he was in Baghdad before the invasion as was stated in the bipartisan investigation on prewar intelligence.

By N-GA

June 14, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

If any of you want to get more info on converting “stuff” to ethanol, google “ethanol efficiency” and you will get reams of it, virtually all of it showing that current technology is very efficient at converting organic substances to ethanol. The argument about Brazil’s independence from most imported oil is resolved simply by explaining that converting corn to ethanol (USA) is much less efficient than converting sugar (Brazil). However, this administration has prevented the importation of Brazilian ethanol by keeping an import duty on each gallon of ethanol ($.47-$.51/gal.). This is being done to “protect” our country’s corn growers (read: oil industry).

By N-GA

June 14, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

Both Ford and GM sell vehicles in Brazil that operate on pure ethanol.

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Chris,

Thanks for reminding me about the unfair restrictions placed on the Southern States by the 1965 Voting rights act. It’s past time that any part of that act either be scrapped or apply to the whole country.

(I might be a little bitter about redistricting right now because I was just drawn back into the GA 4th.)

gadem,

When you find one that refuses to accept the raise then you can play your “holier than though” card. It doesn’t take any courage at all to vote against a foregone conclusion.

By gadem

June 14, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

America needs to wisen up and start holdiong all leaders feet to the fire.

By N-GA

June 14, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

The science behind ethanol is the conversion of carbohydrates into liquid fuel (ethanol). It would seem that many Americans prefer to convert their carbohydrates into fat, then get into their gasoline-fueled automobiles to drive to the store to purchase more carbohydrates, stopping at the BP station to refuel on premium gas for their Hummer.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

VOice— Think about this if we had already brought the troops home like you want to, we would still have Zarqawi freely planning attacks against Americans.

This argument from the right is so disingenious from the get-go. For one thing, if we’d already pulled our troops back from Iraq, the whole war would’ve gone into a different scenario. You know it. Everyone on the right says that once we leave, “chao rules” (which, BTW, is really not much different from what we have today by being there). But, if we’d already pulled back, say just re-deployed to Kuwait on a stand-by basis, who knows who would’ve gotten Al-Zarqawi… he may have been offed by an Iraqi soldier within a week because of some citizen turning him in. And we could’ve still gone after him with our bombers after we re-deployed… so many possibilities could’ve happened.

So we don’t really know what we can do by re-deploying our troops— until we do it, that is!

Of course, now Bush is building his military bases there, so there’s his plan for you…

By The Moderate Voice

June 14, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

Goldie, my point is that withdrawing our troops isn’t a feasible option. Despite what you want to believe it wasn’t feasible. The arguement that Bush is building permament bases is just as disingenious. How are they permanent? They are permanent only as long as we keep troops there. We know we are going to have troops there for a couple of more years, so why not give our troops the best living conditions possible while they are conducting patrols in 130 deg heat wearing 40 lbs of body armor? The left and right will obviously disagree on the war. Nobody is going to convince anybody to change their minds on this one, especially not this blog where most people are blindly partisan. I will agree that many mistakes were made after the initial ground war. But things are getting better. To not see that you have to be blind.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

Did anyone see this mixed in with Spammin Like Andy’s nights work?

In the past, one could always tell that life in Iraq was growing desperate by the long lines of Iraqis trying to escape over the Iranian and Turkish borders. There have been no such scenes since the toppling of Saddam Hussein in 2003. Instead of fleeing the “nightmare” that Iraq has supposedly become, Iraqi refugees have been returning, more than 1.2 million of them as of last December.

Finally, says Taheri, there is the willingness of Iraqis to speak their minds. Iraqis are very verbal, and when they fall silent, life is incontrovertibly becoming hard for them." They aren't silent now. In addition to talk radio, Internet blogs, and lively debate everywhere,a vast network of independent media has emerged in Iraq, including over 100 privately owned newspapers and magazines and more than two dozen radio and television stations.” Nowhere in the Arab world is freedom of expression more robust.

It’s a good read and I would recommend it to all. It is version of perception that differs from the “Vietnam Media”.

Peace out!

By Back To Reality

June 14, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

I hate to break the news to those of you cruising along at high speed but if the United States had 4 cars like Brazil does, maybe we too could run them on sugar.

By N-GA June 14, 2006 03:07 PM The science behind ethanol is the conversion of carbohydrates into liquid fuel (ethanol). It would seem that many Americans prefer to convert their carbohydrates into fat, then get into their gasoline-fueled automobiles to drive to the store to purchase more carbohydrates, stopping at the BP station to refuel on premium gas for their Hummer.

Is it me or are there just some people that can’t disguise or stifle their overwhelming pyscho hatred of anything American?

By gadem

June 14, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

BTR, you really need to travel more. The world is bigger than the US.

By Patriotic Fever

June 14, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

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TALK ABOUT VIOLATING THE WATERING BAN…my wife suffers from PMS and BLOAT so bad that Cobb County will only let her retain water on EVEN DAYS!!!!!! (true story)

By Sore Losers, Even After All Their Experience With It

June 14, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

The Washington Post’s David Froomkin on Karl Rove’s exoneration in the Valerie Plame kerfuffle:

Now, without charges against Rove in the offing, the media should demand answers to a slew of questions. The overriding issue: Just because Rove wasn’t charged with a crime doesn’t mean his conduct meets the standards the public expects from its White House.

By N-GA

June 14, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

Hello Bed Wetter…I knew it wouldn’t take long for you to jump in. I guess you have nothing intelligent to say about ethanol…that’s no surprise.

My comment is based upon the statistics that show Americans lead the planet in obesity. One could surmise that you taking issue with my sarcasm suggests that you have been excessively converting carbohydrates to fat.

By I Got Something Fat For You

June 14, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

So it’s alright for gays to hang out in bath houses all day, sharing AIDS and all manner of STD’s amongst themselves, but a hell will break loose if one of them should gain a little weight?

Are you some kind of freak, you little tosser?

You libs are a damn trip, running around scolding everybody except for the people you have a chance to score with, wink, wink.

Weirdo.

By Daniel

June 14, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

Scooter: Two words: “Belt-tightening” We simply need to spend less. This will take leadership. I wish I heard more of the possible candidates talking about it. I have raise this with Wooten. He’s given up.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

Voice— not just “mistakes” made in the initial war.

More like unprepared, sloppy and arrogant mistakes made by Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld in not using the plans already in place before starting the invasion. And to use Al-Zarqawi as a political pawn before the invasion, when they knew where he was and had the support needed to blow him away several times before we went to Iraq. All of these were “strategic” mistakes made by this administration, and they’ve costed us thousands of lives because of their arrogance!

Not “tactical” mistakes, as Condi claims. Such insanity they’ve caused!

By No Doubt

June 14, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

Any lib who sits around foaming about the weight of their fellow Americans is a true loser of monumental proportion.

With absolutely no life.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

Is it me or are there just some people that can’t disguise or stifle their overwhelming pyscho hatred of anything American?

BTR— it’s you.

Anyone who still believes that driving a Hummer to run errands is “the American way” is the real hater of America.

By N-GA

June 14, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

It’s difficult for me to type this, I’m laughing so hard. Pushing Andy, the Bed Wetter’s buttons isn’t even considered sport anymore.

How he makes mental leaps from my ethanol-related comments on obesity in America to homosexual bath houses is simply amazing. Perhaps he’s sitting in one of those bath houses at this very moment logged into their wireless network. Let’s hope his little PC appliance doesn’t come into contact with any moisture, or there could really be some fireworks.

By N-GA

June 14, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

Goldie….BTR is the notorious Andy, who we affectionately refer to as the bed wetter because he soils himself every night when he dreams that terrorists are attacking him in downtown Smyrna.

His fear of terrorists and homosexuals drives his hatred of everything he cannot understand. Pity him, and all who know him (in the biblical sense).

By N-GA

June 14, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

You can always recognize Andy at the Klan rally, he’s the one wearing yellowed sheets.

By Goldie The Skateboarder?

June 14, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this

You live in a tent in the woods, hun? Or did you deforest some idyllic hillside, loading the timber onto an eighteen wheeled oil hog all the way from Canada, to build your house with?

When you crank the thermostat down to 68 or some lib number like 73, where do you think that cold air originates? Or are you sitting in the stifling heat with your paper fan?

Do you grow all of your food, goldilocks? Or do you have it magically transported from California by pinko freight?

Hypocrite nag.

By What Are You Doing At The Klan Rally, N-GA?

June 14, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

Secrets out, eh?

You’re just there becuase you like to be surrounded by men in costumes, right? It’s a fetish, wink, wink.

By Corn On the Cob

June 14, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

The U.S. ethanol industry produced more than 3.4 billion gallons in 2004, up from 2.8 billion gallons in 2003 and 2.1 billion gallons in 2002. (Renewable Fuels Association and Renewable Fuels Association Ethanol Industry Outlook 2005). Although this number is small when compared with fossil fuel consumption for transportation, as individual states continue to ban the use of MTBE (Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether) and with the possibility of a Federal ban, ethanol consumption is due for a significant boost. Because of the increased demand on ethanol as a gasoline additive, efforts to increase supplies are necessary in order to meet the increase in demand. As of the start of 2005, 81 ethanol plants in 20 states have the capacity to produce nearly 4.4 billion gallons annually and an additional 16 plants are under construction to add another 750 million gallons of capacity (RFA).

Not good enough unless the demobats do it?

By N-GA

June 14, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

I forgot to mention that Andy changes names almost as often as he changes his underwear. I’m afraid that his anger at me is being directed to you. Sorry bout that.

By finch

June 14, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

RW,

I also recognize that we’re holding some people there that are darn dangerous and that we better have a plan to deal with them in our courts,” Bush told a news conference in the White House Rose Garden.

Yes, I saw this in the link, too. But President Bush saying “we have to have a plan” more than 4 years after Guantanamo’s prison opened shows tardiness:

Some 450 people are still at Guantanamo. Many have been held since the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001. Some of them are no doubt dangerous terrorists, but the military has already acknowledged that some are still being held although there is no evidence tying them to terrorist activities. Only 10 have been formally charged with a crime.

To paraphrase my grandpa, it’s time to spit or get off the pot.

By Somebody Has Some Serious Knowledge Of Bath Houses

June 14, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

By N-GA June 14, 2006 04:52 PM Perhaps he’s sitting in one of those bath houses at this very moment logged into their wireless network. Let’s hope his little PC appliance doesn’t come into contact with any moisture, or there could really be some fireworks.

Knows the place like the back of his hand, it sounds like.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

Andy/You Whine/BTR/Klan —

Why don’t you tell us all about your love affair with your Hummer? Do you drive it due to the inadequacy of some body part of yours? Or is it because you have a thing for Ahhnold the Governator…

By N-GA

June 14, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

Andy….you brought up the subject of gay bath houses. What’s the matter…getting uncomfortable? Try googling on “depends”. Maybe you’ll feel dryer…but your friends at the bath house might laugh at you…just like I do.

Did the military kick you out? You forgot about the don’t ask, don’t tell policy. You’re just a pathetic homophobe.

By finch

June 14, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

That Boston Globe op-ed on Iraqis streaming home was apparently dispatched from another dimension:

BAGHDAD, Iraq, June 13 — In one of the first comprehensive tallies of Iraqis fleeing Iraq since the American-led invasion, an American refugee advocacy group has counted 644,500 Iraqi refugees in Syria and Jordan in 2005.

At first, Iraqis living abroad began returning home. But as the war became increasingly deadly, more Iraqis chose to leave. In all, as of the end of 2005, 889,000 Iraqis have moved abroad as refugees since 2003, according to the group’s tally, more than double the 366,000 counted at the end of 2004.

“It’s the biggest new flow of refugees in the world,” said Lavinia Limón, the committee’s president.

Biggest?? Ms. Limon may be exaggerating. But it’s real clear that a lot more Iraqis are exiting than entering.

Buy Danish,

…when ML drew the cartoon that had Patrick Kennedy crashing into a tall building.

A 3 story building is tall?? I want to be around when you visit a really big city like Macon, just to watch you freak!!!

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

Corn on the Cob— you can bet that very little of the U.S. ethanol production would be happening at all if it wasn’t for the Dems’ demanding it. And it’s mostly taking place in the state of Iowa these days due to their local activists and their corn farmers. We could be doing some big things here in GA with our peanut crop — creating jobs in ethanol production — hey, that’s an idea — but we don’t hear too much about that from our GA leaders, do we? They’re too busy working on another gay marriage amendment… or still trying to put up the Ten Commandments in our courthouses, etc.

By I Don't Drive A Hummer

June 14, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this

My driveway is pretty flat and I have no machine gun to mount to the top of it so I passed on the opportunity to buy one. I actually think they look sort of silly, especially in the Public’s parking lot or some such place.

But I definitely don’t go to screaming at the owner when I see one, I try to keep my urge to nag in check, besides which, I have a life.

And if you saw my “body part” you wouldn’t be able to look at hubby with a straight face ever again.

By Any More Revelations From N-GA?

June 14, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this

Let’s see here, just from tonite’s posts, attends KKK rallies, frequents gay bathhouses enough to know they have a wireless network, every post talks of men’s undergarments or urination and now he was kicked out of the army.

Loose lips sink ships.

BTW, Wanker, you get a letter from the government recently?

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

Andy/I Don’t Drive — thanks for clarifying. I don’t go screaming at strangers in the parking lot either, so I commend you for showing some restraint. Who’d thunk that?

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

N-GA or Finch,

I’ve tried several times today to post a link to an article about Al-Zarqawi and haven’t gotten it to work yet. Any suggestions for a newbie here trying to post a link? In plain English, BTW…

By Link Instructions

June 14, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

[place title of link here]#(please url address here) remove the # when you post.

By Corn On the Cob

June 14, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

Goldie, when we begin to transfer food supplies to the production of fuel what do you think the limited supply will do to the price of food? How do you think the new price of food will affect the war on world hunger?

Speaking of limited supplies and thanking libs, how much is gasoline right now? So yeah, since the libs have limited refining capacity and domestic production, which in turn raised the price at the pump, and caused a demand for alternative energy we can thank libs. You can’t even give credit, you try to take it and that is sad.

While I agree that no constitution should be used to limit personal freedoms and protections from government, I have no problem with the ten commandments in courthouses. Matter of fact, the government shouldn’t have anyting to do with anyone’s marriage. I think the constitution says that congress shall enact no law establishing a religion, you libs have simply taken this one to an extreme, because, heaven forbid someone may get offended.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

thanks Andy/Linking — I’ll try that # sign trick and see if it goes through…

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

Anyone who still believes that driving a Hummer to run errands is “the American way” is the real hater of America.*

Another Goldie-ism!

First, she assumes that we’re all driving around in Hummers. Second, if you do you’re an “America hater”.

And she calls ME a fascist?

*By N-GA June 14, 2006 03:07 PM

… It would seem that many Americans prefer to convert their carbohydrates into fat, then get into their gasoline-fueled automobiles to drive to the store to purchase more carbohydrates, stopping at the BP station to refuel on premium gas for their Hummer*

And then there’s N-GA with a similar Hummer obsession which manifests itself in a fasist desire to control both our eating AND driving habits^^.

Who’s humming who?

Finch,

Do you really want to re-argue that cartoon??? But speaking of the past, I forgot to point out yesterdays’ contradiction du jour. Here it is:

By finch June 9, 2006 03:27 PM

Buy Danish

I appreciate the clarification. I don’t think Bush had anything at all to do with “making” Zarqawi. In the worst of ways, he was a self-made man.

By finch/June 13, 2006 05:11 PM

BD,

…OOTMVD just had his Bushes mixed up. When Zarqawi was in Afghanistan in the 1980s, he was bankrolled by the Reagan and Bush administrations who though his hatred of the West was confined to Moscow. I guess you forgot that part.*

So which is it - is it the 6/9 or 6/13?

BTW, You’re complaining about Bush being “tardy” on Guantanamo? Maybe if the sorts of violinists who write the Op Eds that you hold so dear to your heart didn’t use the courts to challenge every freaking thing we do while conducting the war on terror, these vermin would have had their military tribunals by now.

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

finch,

I didn’t realize that being around the likes of Goldie and gadem had addled your brain to the point that you can’t even understand a simple statement from the President. Could it be that you are just misrepresenting him on purpose?

You realize when you do that you only make yourself look like either a fool or a liar when someone follows up on what you have told them. I know that doesn’t matter when you restrict your communication to left wing circle jerks, but you aren’t in Cambridge anymore. (my apologies to Dorothy)

I bet that isn’t quite what your Grandfather used to say either.

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this

OK— here goes another link try:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

Speaking of limited supplies and thanking libs, how much is gasoline right now?

Corn on the Cob— how much of a retirement payout did the CEO of Exxon/Mobil get this year? How does big oil keep claiming that their costs have gone up, and yet they still manage to make RECORD profits every quarter? Are you so involved in the oil industry that you don’t even see the links to higher prices at the pump with their over-the-top profits?

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Does it bother you at all that your story completely contradicts your premise the other day that the Zarqman had nothing to do with Al Qaeda until after we invaded Iraq?

Do you just go with whatever story you think works against America? Better yet do you even care how ignorant it makes you look?

By Something Went Wrong

June 14, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this

I’m going to link to something really stupid for an example:

[something really stupid]$(http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/entries/2006/06/13/throwingthebo.html#comment-499794)

But when I post it there will not be a dollar sign in between the brackets:

something really stupid

By Goldie

June 14, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

oh well, still can’t work the link-thing here — check y’all tomorrow!

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

OOPS, in my 6:00 post I didn’t properly italicize quotes made by Goldie and N-GA.

God forbid that anyone think that I made them.

By finch

June 14, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

RW,

I don’t think I’m misrepresenting President Bush. He’s saying that after 4 years, it’s time to take Gitmo out of legal limbo. I agree with him.

Buy Danish,

Zarqawi’s rep wasn’t made in Afghanistan, where he was a gofer for the Reagan funded Mujahadeen 20 years ago. He made his rep in Iraq over the past 5 years all by his little lonesome. Now don’t make me regret taking your side when you ridiculed the contention that the current US government ‘created’ Zarqawi.

By Scooter

June 14, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

Goldie, you skipped the two questions and went straight to exploiting ignorance in an attempt to stimulate class warfare. I don’t care how much the CEO of Exxon Mobile made. If you took his or her salary and deducted it from the cost of gas sold to the distributors how much do you think it would reduce the price? 2 cents per gallon? I don’t know much about economics but I don’t let my ignorance be perverted into envy.

I have however read things about inventory profits that coincide with increased prices of crude oil, have you? What do you think it takes to increase supplies, good looks? No, it takes profits. What do we have, Shell owned by the Duth Royal Family (?), Citgo owned by Hugo Chavez, BP, Exxon, Chevron all colluding in your world?

Would you like to function above your class warfare mentality and answer the questions about ethanol production?

By finch

June 14, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this

Do you really want to re-argue that cartoon???

You brought it up! And your definition of tall does raise a few questions….

By RW-(the original)

June 14, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this

finch,

His statement really had nothing to do with getting Club Gitmo out of legal limbo in spite of his in-artful mention of the courts. It was a statement that he would love to close the place because we had reached the point that we no longer needed it. Sorry for giving you credit for having the capacity to understand that.

I wonder if he does this to keep people like you…and by people like you I mean antique media folks…grasping at straws.

Did I mention that I provide a translation service too?

By Guess Who!

June 14, 2006 08:19 PM | Link to this

I thought I’d put off that column on ethanol subsidies I’d been planning to write this week and instead address the topic that has so riveted the nation — the hot new book Godless: The Church of Liberalism.

First of all, I’m getting a little fed up with people trying to make money off my book. Worthless little cable TV shows with teeny-tiny audiences, ridiculous legislators and tabloid newspapers are all trying to make a name for themselves off the profundity of Godless.

By Anybody Else Notice?

June 14, 2006 08:24 PM | Link to this

Midori was gone for the day and no one got their name jacked?

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 09:01 PM | Link to this

By finch/June 14, 2006 06:40 PM

You brought it up! And your definition of tall does raise a few questions*

finch,

I apologize in advance for a spam-like post, but I will be gone all day tomorrow and need to “settle” a few loose ends:

1)

I brought up the Patrick Kennedy cartoon as a time-frame reference to Getalife’s still unsubstantiated claim that he has an incriminating top secret memo written by a Republican operative. He first brought this up at that time, and is still peddling it, but is unable to provide us with a copy of the letter.

The tall building line was a reference to the debate we ALREADY had on the cartoon, intended to jolt the memory - period. Believe me, I have no desire to run through that scenario again.

By finch/June 14, 2006 06:31 PM

Buy Danish,

*Zarqawi’s rep wasn’t made in Afghanistan, where he was a gofer for the Reagan funded Mujahadeen 20 years ago. He made his rep in Iraq over the past 5 years all by his little lonesome. Now don’t make me regret taking your side when you ridiculed the contention that the current US government ‘created’ Zarqawi.

finch,

2)

I’m not looking for you to “take my side” and I find it odd that this is part of your though processes. I’m interested in the truth, and knowing what you truthfully think, and I don’t believe that I need your support to make my case for anything.

That being said, Your claim that Zarqawi only became important 5 years ago in Iraq may be the biggest load of c*rap you have dropped yet.

Whether or not he had a “REP” is irrelevant. What is germane to the original discussion is the breadth of his activities prior to the Iraq War, and whether or not Big Bad Bush, or his Big Bad Dad, or Reagan, or any American bears responsibility for his actions.

My view was and still is that he is a product of his own lowlife culture. I don’t have time to put it in a time-line for you, but here are the facts of his BIO

Here is a key excerpt:

Released in 1997 after five years in a Jordanian prison for plotting to replace the monarchy with an Islamic state, Zarqawi fled to Europe. He returned to Afghanistan in 2000 and built his own network of training camps near Herat, seizing control of the clandestine routes between Iran and Afghanistan.

In his camps, Zarqawi dispensed his specialized knowledge of chemical weapons and poisons to loyal followers, who then dispersed to the Middle East and Europe. The week of April 19, Jordanian police broke up a Zarqawi-financed and orchestrated plot they estimate would have detonated 20 tons of chemicals and released a cloud of poisonous gas into central Amman. The blast could have killed some 80,000 civilians and destroyed the U.S. embassy and Jordanian intelligence headquarters. In a videotaped confession shown on Jordanian TV, the head of the cell admitted, “I took explosives courses, poisons high level, then I pledged allegiance to Abu Musab al Zarqawi, to obey him without any questioning.”

Refresh my memory - who was President in 1997? Did Clinton create Zarqawi? Hang on for my answer……………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

Nope!

If anything “created” him, it was his vile culture that has no one to blame but itself. There you have it.

Later.

By robdawg06

June 15, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this

Based on the point of view derived from your cartoon of Bill Campbell you undoubtedly think he is innocent. Going on extravagant trips with mistresses at the tax payer’s expense is stealing and a crime. Who cares if a jury (of his peers, yep thugs like he is) found him innocent. The evidence is overwhelming and at least an honest and intelligent judge didn’t let his ruling be affected by Campbell being a former Mayor of Atlanta. Your cartoons are way more harsh on Conservatives (esp. President Bush) than Liberals. But wait, I forget that you are a Liberal.

By robdawg06

June 15, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

Your cartoon should have depicted Campbell surrounded by 25 women in the court room and a caption of Campbell’s wife saying “Who are all these unknown beautiful women here supporting you ?”

By Gavin McBrewer

June 16, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

The AJC is a disgrace to ATL. Just look at how they jump to Campbell’s defense, completely one-sided. Their headline is about Campbell’s “letter” from his mother, as if to say, “SEE ATLANTA!, He IS innocent!!!” When he was sentenced, all the paper could do was give his rebuttal and use the word “abomination” when referring to the verdict. They barely quoted the federal judge’s comments at all. The AJC headline was like saying, “Ex-Mayor wrongly convicted”. And look back at Al-Zarqawi being killed. The AJC headlines with “Al-Zarqawi Murdered” and then here’s the kicker; The very next line links to “family reacts”. Then they proceed to describe Al-Zarqawi’s brother and his poor 2 kids. Nevermind the fact that he sawed people’s heads off. Let’s trash the US military for killing a sweet man and father of 2. The AJC is trash and you are a traitor for reading it.

By finch

June 16, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

McBrewster must live in a special AJC zone. I never saw the paper with the “Zarqawi murdered” headline.

He should save those special editions. They’re collector’s items.

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