Mike Luckovich

By Angry Liberal Guy

June 13, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

Great one Mike - how appropriate. Is it possible that, by accident, I beat loser Andy to the forum?

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

Speaking of OOPS!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

By gadem

June 13, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

RW, as an American Patriot, it seems that you would want the truth to come out, and not rejoice in the fact that one of Bush’s “spiritual advisors” or agenda setters is getting a pass. I think just because of Rove’s track record, he may have had something to do with it. Someone in the administration got the ball rolling. Who is the question.

By Timmy

June 13, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

Wow, Mike you are on your way to becoming just like your idol, Ted Rall. You socialists are a piece of work.

By ME

June 13, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this

So funny, yet sad because it could be true.

By Goldie

June 13, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this

You’re right, Lucko — W’s administration has bitten off more than it can chew… I’m wondering whether the new Iraqi government will end up in close cahoots with Iran, or whether they’ll just pull that statue of Saddam back up on the pedestal one day!

By Goldie

June 13, 2006 08:21 AM | Link to this

Gadem— I’m looking forward to Scooter’s trial next year when they have to put both Cheney and Rove on the stand to testify — I’m stocking up on popcorn now!

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 08:21 AM | Link to this

gadem,

What exactly is “it”? Last I checked there is no underlying crime involving anyone in the White House. Now if you were really concerned with truth you would ask that a new prosecutor be named and Joe Wilson be put under a microscope.

Timmy,

The thing about this cartoon is that he ran this in the Washington Post last week before the Iraqi government was finalized or Zarqawi was killed and the news of the greatly enhanced cooperation we are receiving became public. Since he ran this cartoon last week the whole “Haditha massacre” story is beginning to unravel. With all that ml ran this toon anyway.

By Ricky

June 13, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this

Wow ML doesn’t take a chance to celebrate the killing of the top terrorist in Iraq, yet he will go back to the well with how Iraq is destroying America. In a 24 hr period Zaraqawi was killed and the government appointed its Defense Minister and Interior Minister. Yet everything is going bad in Iraq if you listen to the left. Murtha has already convicted the Marines accussed in Haditha. Its the same old story from the left. At least the right is willing to admit that it is tough going, but we are making progress. The left refuses to admit there is anything good happening over there.

By Angry Liberal Guy

June 13, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this

RW - if Rove is truly guilty would you still be happy that he got off? I’m just trying to figure out if you subscribe to the “it’s ok if he’s guilty, he’s on our side” school of thought.

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

If the government of Iraq takes, 100 years from now will the terrorists still be able to blame all the regions problems on the West and Zionists? Is there a chance they will be gratefull for their new found freedoms and remember who sacrificed to give it to them?

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

Angry Liberal Guy,

No I wouldn’t. Anybody that’s been reading here for any length of time knows that I’m a big proponent of due process and prefer that guilty parties are prosecuted.

Would you be happy if you found out that the CIA was running a clandestine effort to undermine the President just because the President wasn’t on “your side”?

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 13, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

What does it say about the administration when the best news of the week is when someone doesn’t get indicted?

RW- Come on, I know you’re not that dumb. Of course a crime was committed. The CIA operative didn’t out herself. Someone did, and that someone is in the upper level of the administration. I guess you also think that no one murdered Nicole Brown Simpson? Your skills as an apologist and rationalizer are deteriorating.

By gadem

June 13, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

RW, what was the reason that Republicans were foaming at the mouth when Clinton received “Oral Favors” in the Oval Office? I understand that he lied under oath, but you all were on a witch hunt and personal smear campaign. That act in no way affected his job performance or the security of our country. You know that something is wrong with your rationale when you think that anyones personal sex life takes priority over the lives of soldiers fighting a senseless war. I say senseless because everyday they are in danger. Truth be told they are fighting to keep each other safe and not for the agenda of W….In my opionion W has “flip flopped” several times regarding the reasons we went to war. That is flip flopping that you should be concerned about rather than if someone supports civil unions.

By Buy Danish the Very First

June 13, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

OOPS unlimited. and unrepentant.

Hey, maybe Jason just needs to take the ML.psychicRefresher course and he and his “minions” will get something right eventually. Here’s a free prediction or two for you:

Dennis Hastert will be the Majority Speaker before and after election day. And Goldie’s popcorn will do nothing but collect mold.

Gadem,

All your hopes are dashed, so now you oh so subtly try to link Karl Rove to the the slaughterer’s apprentice, Sheikh Abdel Rahman? And you KOSsacks complain about Ann Coulter?

Oh, and here is my new Ann Coulter analysis:

She’s like South Park. While there are times when the show goes over the top, the bottom line is that it is the most spot-on, side-splitting satire of liberal punks like you on the planet.

Beastly funny.

By AntiRadical

June 13, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

Good toon ML. Iraq has certainly backfired and left America disgraced in the court of world opinion. Most of the world now views us as an imperialistic power which must be assuaged but never trusted. This should establish a wonderful environment in which to accomplish international trade for many decades to come.

Now that Coulter has stolen the thunder of the elimination of Zarqawi in order to grab the spotlight and line her own pockets, even that small amount of good news about Iraq remains mostly unheard, even here in the USA. Far right conservative infighting is destroying whatever message they hoped to carry. It is embarrassing to watch the Republican party crumble into a morass of special/self interest.

By Pay Triutt

June 13, 2006 08:45 AM | Link to this

Last I checked there is no underlying crime involving anyone in the White House.

Of course not! There are no crimes in the executive branch. It has been well-established in the last five years that, regardless of the behavior in question, if they do it, it’s not a crime! HELLO? That’s the beauty of a dictatorship. By not being subject to the same laws as everyone else, our leaders spare us the embarrassment of the executive-level scandals that plagued our previous leaders. What we don’t know makes us stronger. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

By I Report, You Whine

June 13, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Let’s look and see which book is the #1 bestseller at Amazon, I wonder what it could be?:

The #1 bestseller at Amazon

Well, well, the Conservative Nation does appreciate all of the support and attention given by you pinkos. Thank you very much.

You got your Dixie Chicks, we got ours.

By Say What?

June 13, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

Look and see how easy it is to make finch, er, seeker look like a blooming idiot:

For some reason, I have not recently been hearing that the war in Iraq is “a distraction from the fight against al-Qaida.” Perhaps this mantra became harder to chant after Zarqawi went to all the trouble to certify his gang as “al-Qaida in Mesopotamia” and to receive Bin Laden’s official franchise. Then again, if one wanted to argue that al-Qaida would not be in Iraq if we were not, one had to confront the fact that Zarqawi was actually there first. And that while he was there, he could in theory have had a chat with Abdul Rahman Yasin, the man who mixed the chemicals for the attack on the World Trade Center in 1993 and then (released by the FBI) went straight to Baghdad. Or perhaps kicked back with Abu Abbas, organizer of the ocean liner hijacking that resulted in the murder of American Jew Leon Klinghoffer, who when arrested by the Italians had to be released because when on hijack duty he carried an Iraqi diplomatic passport. Failing that, what about chewing the fat with Abu Nidal, assassin of several PLO diplomats and mastermind of the mass slaughter at the Rome and Vienna airports? Yes, it’s true that there are more foreign gangsters in Iraq today, but they are no longer living in government hospitality homes, and they are being killed at the rate of dozens every week. And, yes, it hasn’t yet been shown that any of them—except of course Zarqawi and his friends—were ideologically linked to the events of Sept. 11. But the intervention in Afghanistan was to make up for that atrocity. The intervention in Iraq was partly designed to forestall the next attack. Now I’m told that it has only made the jihadists more angry. Should I try to think of a policy that would have made them less so?

By clark

June 13, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

ricky;

i guess you didn’t see the thursdays cartoon about zarqawi?

Complain, complain, complain.

By Where's Bin Laden, Duh?

June 13, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this

But after the American invasion of Afghanistan Al Qaeda’s founders were immobilized, reduced to making occasional videotapes designed to rouse aspiring jihadis and berate Western leaders. Deprived of the managerial oversight of bin Laden, an international businessman, Al Qaeda began to shape itself around Zarqawi’s organizational experience, which is to say that it turned into a gang. This was a model easily replicated by would-be jihadis—as in Madrid, London, Toronto—wherever alienated young Muslims yearned for destruction.

There’s Bin Laden!

By He Was A Busy Little Nobody

June 13, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this

President Bush said yesterday that U.S. forces will now hunt down the next leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Hamza al-Muhajer, who was named by a Web site as the replacement for slain terrorist Abu Musab Zarqawi.

“The successor to Zarqawi is going to be on our list to bring to justice,” Mr. Bush said after spending the day discussing strategy with U.S. officials at Camp David, the presidential retreat in Maryland.

If this guy was on the “outs” why would they have to name a successor to?

Zarqawi also pioneered a new mode of communication. In contrast to bin Laden’s sonorous taped declarations on Al Jazeera, in 2004 Zarqawi beheaded a twenty-six-year-old American, Nicholas Berg, and posted the video live on the Internet. In a way, this was as shocking an image as the planes crashing into the World Trade Center. Al Qaeda’s founders preferred bombs to butcher knives, but the number of Zarqawi’s victims mounted. “It’s estimated that Zarqawi killed six thousand people in Iraq,” Salameh Nematt, the Washington bureau chief for the pan-Arab daily Al-Hayat, told me. “That’s twice as many as bin Laden killed on 9/11.” Indeed, it is more than bin Laden and Zawahiri have killed in all their operations combined.

By Annie, Tearing It Up

June 13, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

At a decidedly unstag affair the next night, Senator Hillary showed off her scratches. The event was an all-women-in-pants-suits gala dinner for 350 networking gals at which the “socialist single mother” President of Chile, Ms. Michelle Bachelet, was honored guest. It was Senator Hillary, however, who stole the show, though no one expects her to be indicted. Needless to say, Ann Coulter was not invited to the event, despite her decidedly female bona fides, not to mention the networking she’d freshly done on NBC.

“Hey where’s Katie? Did she leave or something?” she asked the recently liberated host of the Today show, Mr. Matt Lauer. It’s a meaner line than any Coulter has delivered apropos the Bush-bashing widows from New Jersey. How many years did Lauer suffer abuse at the hands of killer Katie? Another unindictable crime, no doubt. These days, men like Lauer are lucky to get work as waiters at such events as the no-men-need-apply dinner for Chile’s single mom chief exec.

Still, it was a good question. Where is Katie Couric? When last seen on screen she was reconfirming her emotional qualifications to replace Dan Rather. Crying like a girl, she told viewers on May 31, her last day at NBC, “I’m feeling happy and sad and completely out of control.” Dan couldn’t have put it more pointedly. We’ll know more about her command of his frequency after Labor Day, when she unveils her morning smile on CBS’s Evening News.

By Blame Bush For This

June 13, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

Washington —- The federal deficit through May is running well below last year’s pace, helped by strong growth in revenue, the Treasury Department reported Monday. Through the first eight months of the budget year, the deficit totaled $227 billion, down 16.7 percent from the same period in 2005, when the red ink totaled $272.3 billion. The positive trend so far this year came about even though the deficit in May was up sharply from a year ago, climbing to $42.8 billion, 20.9 percent higher than the deficit in May 2005. Analysts blamed the May deficit on timing issues that shifted payments for benefit programs and certain programs run by the departments of Education and Housing and Urban Development into May. Last year those payments had been made in April or June. 4th Item.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 13, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

Scooter,

You’re a sucker. You start your beliefs with the administration’s premise that the war in Iraq was justified and then worked backwards to find the reason and rationale to fit that “justification.” What makes it more laughable is that the reasons and rationale have changed multiple times- WMD’s, freedom, etc.- and you simpletons accept whatever the rationale of the week is. Whatever you’re told you will repeat because you want to believe your conservatives were right. You have no credibility because, like Bush, you won’t admit to the plethora of mistakes. You just try to find more reasons to find yourselves right, no matter how much you screw up. And I don’t think the Iraqis are grateful of the 70,000 civilian deaths, or that they don’t have water or electricity any more, or… (And by the way, you speak of 100 years from now? Well, Saddam would have died from old age in ten years or so anyway, and a new government would have come into power regardless, you moron.)

By Algore Versus MIT

June 13, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

There are a number of well-known scientists who don’t believe that global warming is human-induced, or who believe that if it is, it is not catastrophic. Hurricane expert William Gray of Colorado State University believes the Earth will start to cool within 10 years. Neil Frank, former director of the National Hurricane Center, told The Washington Post that global warming is “a hoax.” Climate scientist Robert Lindzen of MIT believes that clouds and water vapor will counteract greenhouse gas emissions.

By What Good News?

June 13, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this

So much of the credit for his murderous successes, and those of other terrorists like him, must be given to the mainstream media — both East and West. Journalists assiduously advance the terrorist cause, by reporting almost exclusively on allied setbacks and mistakes, and by their ceaseless improvisation of destructive criticism against “Bush” and other Western leaders and allies. Heroic, and largely successful reconstruction efforts in Iraq have been ignored; instead we have an endless spool of meticulously-reported terror hits. The Western media attention to, and celebration of, such unstable characters as Cindy Sheehan and Michael Berg, make their alliances obvious. The New York Times has been the bellwether for this. Almost every news item touching Iraq is spun to maximize its demoralizing effect on the allied war effort. And across America itself, editors look to the Times nightly front-page line-up for clues on how to slant their own coverage.

To an enemy who depends utterly on morale, in the absence of significant military abilities — who has only such weaponry as he can rig or steal, and only such soldiers as he can recruit in secret; who has no secure territory to which he can retreat and regroup — this constant and reliable support from the media is indispensable. Without it, the “resistance” in Iraq would have collapsed quickly, saving ten-thousands of lives.

By Just In Case You Missed RW @ 8:03

June 13, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

Washington, DC—Robert Luskin, Attorney for Karl Rove today released the following statement:

“On June 12, 2006, Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald formally advised us that he does not anticipate seeking charges against Karl Rove.

[“In deference to the pending case, we will not make any further public statements about the subject matter of the investigation. We believe that the Special Counsel’s decision should put an end to the baseless speculation about Mr. Rove’s conduct.”](http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.ht

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

gadem,

You asked a question about me personally on a particular topic and I answered it. I seriously doubt my simple answer provoked the laundry list of charges you came up, so I can only presume your question wasn’t serious to begin with.

One of the deluded people that thinks he/she is the majority and wants to dissent from him/her self,

When is someone going to be charged with the crime of outing Valerie Plame? Are you even willing to accept the premise that she doesn’t fall under the statute that covers these things?

By sickofsleaze

June 13, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this

Wonder how Duhbya’s friends will reward him after he leaves office? Reagan’s “friends” first bought his ranch for an opera then sold it back to him for a song. After he left the White House, they built him a multimillion dollar house. Bush already has his huge ranch in Crawford with an energy nnon dependent multimillion dollar house. When the house was a’building, 2 vertical shafts were sunk deep into the ground where the temp stays a steady 65 degrees year round, then connected by a horizontal shaft. In the summer the warm water is pumped down to cool and in the winter the warm water rises to the top and then is furher heated to comfort level. Then there is wind farm to prove the necessary power for comfortable. Bush travels in style on the taxpayers’ dime so the high fuel prices bother not.

By finch

June 13, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

… he could in theory… … or perhaps kicked back… .. failing that, what about…

The plethora of “what ifs” in the Slate article “Say What?” linked to shows that it’s just speculation. What kind of idiot would use speculation to support policy??

Oh, wait…

Zarqawi was an exceedingly dangerous independent. But next thing you know, “Say What?” will have him tied to Cuba and the JFK assassination.

It just sucks to be wrong, doesn’t it?

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this

OOTMVD, I like the way you finished that off by calling me a moron.

Did you have any problem with Saddam’s deciet of the UN for 12 years? How did you and the left know Saddam had disarmed since he never cooperated with the UN? Do you know the inspectors were kicked out in October 1998, Desert Fox was launched in December 1998 and Nancy Pelosi said the following;

“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

So OOTMVD, why do you and Nancy think it would have been wise to stop at having the inspectors return? You are the smart guy and I am the moron, so enlighten me on each of the above questions, not just one.

By finch

June 13, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

Fitzgerald has a reputation for being tenacious and ethical. Rove is a sleaze, but that’s not a crime. I do wonder what took Fitz so long, and I hate to think what the probe of Plamegate has cost. It’s still not over.

Meanwhile, Fearless Leader arrived in Baghdad this morning. I hope he doesn’t do anything dumb.

By candide

June 13, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

Which Fearless Leader arrived in Baghdad this morning?

By The Truth Sucks, Don't It?

June 13, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

By finch June 13, 2006 09:09 AM The plethora of “what ifs” in the Slate article “Say What?” linked to shows that it’s just speculation. What kind of idiot would use speculation to support policy??

Last time I looked Slate was a liberal publication, they can no longer lie with a straight face, so it really must hurt to have the truth shoved up your rear end, it’s easy to see in seeker’s 9:09.

And just think, they didn’t even mention Salman Pak with it’s training ground of jumbo jet fuselages (911 practice, eh?) Maybe they were holding that in reserve for all of the attendant squirming that pinkos like finch try to do when confronted with overwhelming evidence.

It just sucks to be wrong, doesn’t it?

Anybody can look back and see who started using this signature in some of their posts. It was I. And what do they say?

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

Little seeker wants to be me sooooo bad.

By The Truth Sucks, Don't It?

June 13, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

By sickofsleaze June 13, 2006 09:07 AM Wonder how Duhbya’s friends will reward him after he leaves office?

I wonder why this lib wasn’t sickofsleaze when Clinton pardon Marc Rich after he got a couple of hundred large bestowed upon his presidential massage parlor, er, library?

Or when Bubba was raking in all that Chinese smack in return for a few highly classified nuclear secrets?

Do these pinkos even think about it before they fire their mouths off?

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

Well, it seems that a few of us are quoting Christopher Hitchens today. Great minds and all that.

Finch,

I responded in detail to your daily b.o.s.here

P.S. Osama has been “contained”. Isn’t that what you all wanted for Hussein?

By I Thought Baghdad Was A Haven For Terrorists?

June 13, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

President Bush made a surprise visit to Iraq on Tuesday to meet newly named Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and discuss the next steps in the troubled, three-year-old war.

It was a dramatic move by Bush, traveling to violence-rattled Baghdad less than a week after the death of terror chief Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in a bombing attack. The president was expected to be in Baghdad a little more than five hours.

Shouldn’t he be afraid? Shouldn’t he be concerned? Shouldn’t he be worried about Osama Bin Laden sneaking up behind him and saying boo?

Hahhahahahahahahahaha.

Yeah, like Bin Laden would ever be caught dead in Baghdad, hahhahahhahahhahahha.

Hail to the Chief!

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

finch,

What evidence do you have of Fitzgerald’s reputation of being tenacious and ethical other than people like you saying Fitzgerald is tenacious and ethical?

I’ll give you tenacious, but with complete tunnel vision. That tunnel vision could either mean he is a bad prosecutor or an unethical one. I’ve seen absolutely zero evidence that he is ethical. Did you happen to catch the dog and pony show when he announced the Libby indictment? Maybe he aspires to be a Durham DA.

By Pat Robertson

June 13, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

I guess you liberals didn’t know that Ann Coulter is my illegitimate daughter. She is getting to be like her daddy more and more with every book she writes. God bless her hate filled, say anything to sell a book little heart!

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 13, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

Scooter,

No, I really don’t care about Saddam defying the U.N. Why is the U.N. worthless to you Republicans except when you want to use it to validate a point you’re searching for validation for? If we can wait a few years for Castro to die, why couldn’t we do the same for Saddam? It would have saved us thousands of American lives, tens of thousands of civilian lives, and billions of dollars (literally).

I see Granny Weatherall is back at it with her delusions today.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this

Finch,

something for you to amuse yourself with

Isn’t it amazing, the level of crowing going on here?

I heard this caller on CSpan laughing gleefully while proclaiming that Bill Clinton was impeached, but Karl Rove is free.

How much you want to bet it was RW?

By rushncap

June 13, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

Perfect cartoon, Mike. So very true.

Oh, and li’l andy, why do you think whenever someone important goes to Iraq they never tell a soul until after it’s over? Could it be because if people knew he was coming his life would be in danger? Can you think of ANY other place Bush travels to secretly?

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

Oh, I am a republicrat. What about Nancy Pelosi’s December 1998 statements?

OOMVD, sing with me Khum Ba Yah My Lord, Khum Bah Yah. We shall ignore all threats and things will turn out swell. Or, we must act on every threat and that will leave the left with a good excuse to never do anything.

We shall now be waiting on everyone to die and assume the new leaders will be better.

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

Midori here.

It’s a shame about ML’s blog - just wanted to check in with you to let you know that Fitzmas has finally arrived!!!

Rove has been indicted!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

By Midori

June 13, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this

Ok, Ricky: I’ll bite.

Can you let me in on all the “good” being done in Iraq?

And I don’t want to hear about a school being built, either.

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

finch and RW,

Speak of the Devil, here’s a piece from Norman Podhoretz for Opinion Journal on the “tenacious” Patrick Fitzgerald as part of a great recap of the War in Iraq. Just call it a bonus round, and the winner is…

Here’s his conclusion, but it would be a shame not to read the entire fact-filled Op Ed -

But there is worse. In his press conference on the indictment against Mr. Libby, Patrick Fitzgerald insisted that lying to federal investigators is a serious crime both because it is itself against the law and because, by sending them on endless wild-goose chases, it constitutes the even more serious crime of obstruction of justice. By those standards, Mr. Wilson—who has repeatedly made false statements about every aspect of his mission to Niger, including whose idea it was to send him and what he told the CIA upon his return; who was then shown up by the Senate Intelligence Committee as having lied about the forged documents; and whose mendacity has sent the whole country into a wild-goose chase after allegations that, the more they are refuted, the more they keep being repeated—is himself an excellent candidate for criminal prosecution.

And so long as we are hunting for liars in this area, let me suggest that we begin with the Democrats now proclaiming that they were duped, and that we then broaden out to all those who in their desperation to delegitimize the larger policy being tested in Iraq—the policy of making the Middle East safe for America by making it safe for democracy—have consistently used distortion, misrepresentation and selective perception to vilify as immoral a bold and noble enterprise and to brand as an ignominious defeat what is proving itself more and more every day to be a victory of American arms and a vindication of American ideals.

By The Truth Sucks, Don't It?

June 13, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

By rushncrap June 13, 2006 10:19 AM Oh, and li’l andy, why do you think whenever someone important goes to Iraq they never tell a soul until after it’s over?

Didn’t they teach you how to read at the reeducation center?

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - President Bush arrived in Iraq on Tuesday and was expected to be on the ground for more than five hours and speak to U.S. troops, the White House said.

By Too Easy

June 13, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

midori;

come on zarqawi, that was a stupid question, at least wait a week or two.

By getalife

June 13, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

RW,

Remember #1 on the list?

See, karma is already working.

I think Woodruff has let Rove off the hook in a criminal trial but there still maybe some punishment down the road. Libby will take the criminal fall for the leak.

It is far from over.

By rushncap

June 13, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

So how many people knew he was going to Iraq, li’l andy? Oh right… no one. He was too scared to tell anyone, because he’d probably get blown up if he did. Poor poor Shrubby, he built the greatest democracy in the Middle East, except it’s not safe for him to show his face around there. Oh the irony.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Agreed, Finch.

It is far from over.

Wilson is now talking about a lawsuit.

Have fun, RW. Have fun. You deserve it. Really you do. Must suck having to defend traitors and criminals so vigorously, tho.

Too Easy - get real. Please.

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

OOTminorityVOD,

Since, OOPS, you were stupid enough to bring up Granny Weatherall again, did you miss my last post to you on that subject? here it is.

Have a miserable day! Zarqawi’s dead, Bush is in Iraq greeting the newly elected Prime Minister, Rove is not being indicted, Haditha is probably a hoax, you all didn’t win Duke Cunningham’s vacated seat, Wm. Jefferson is still in the House of Representatives, and Clinton is blaming hurricanes on Bush.

By Dusty

June 13, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

RW.

Don’t be too hard on the poor lil’ libs today. After all, the rain has been pouring on their party for several days. Zaqawi dead! Rove not indicted!! Bush in Iraq talking to an organized Iraqi government!! All this fine news has them blue blue blue.

Goldie is QUIET. Midori wants lists. Rushncap is worried about a plane trip. N-GA has retreated to the tranquility of Wooten’s blog. Getalife?? The frustration is visible.

So be kind. Libs have just found out that ml’s sinking ship just might be their party’s cruise ship.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

RW,

The belly laughs just keep on coming, don’t they?

Statement of Christopher Wolf, Proskauer Rose LLP, Counsel for Ambassador Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame Wilson

“We have become aware of the communication between Mr. Fitzgerald and Mr. Luskin concerning Karl. Rove’s status in the criminal investigation. We have no first-hand knowledge of the reason for the communication or what further developments in the criminal investigation it may signal. While it appears that Mr. Rove will not be called to answer in criminal court for his participation in the wrongful disclosure of Valerie Wilson’s classified employment status at the CIA in retaliation against Joe Wilson for questioning the rationale for war in Iraq, that obviously does not end the matter. The day still may come when Mr. Rove and others are called to account in a court of law for their attacks on the Wilsons.”

By getalife

June 13, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

W should get out and meet the people like Saddam used to do to show how secure Baghdad is. LOL.

By rushncap

June 13, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

And Dusty is still whining. That’s about as new as the sun coming up in the morning.

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

OOPS, more on Patrick Fitzgerald from Opinion Journal on June 6th:

So imagine our surprise when Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald declared his intention last month to use that editorial as part of his perjury and obstruction case against former Vice Presidential aide Scooter Libby, who had also questioned Mr. Wilson’s claims. It suggests that his case is a lot weaker than his media spin.

Mr. Libby wasn’t a source for our editorial, which quoted from the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate concerning the Africa-uranium issue. But Mr. Fitzgerald alleges in a court filing that Mr. Libby played a role in our getting the information, which in turn shows that “notwithstanding other pressing government business, [Libby] was heavily focused on shaping media coverage of the controversy concerning Iraqi efforts to obtain uranium from Niger.”

The prosecutor comes close here to suggesting that senior government officials have no right to fight back against critics who make false allegations. To the extent our editorial is germane to this trial, in fact, it’s because it puts Mr. Libby’s actions into a broadly defensible context that Mr. Fitzgerald refuses to acknowledge.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

Not only is she still whining, Dusty is still diddling herself with a crucifix as well.

ALL HAIL BUSH!!!!!

Feel good, Dust?

By getalife

June 13, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

This is what I posted at Wootens blog:

“Jim,

I moved to south La. from Atlanta and have been reading that some towns here have given up on preparing for this hurricane season because there is nothing left to lose. No help from the government except trailers and they want them back.

It seems they have been left out but we can spend 9 billion a month in Iraq.

Quit your whining Jim, these folks have more problems than high gas prices. Their towns are gone and they can’t get the money to rebuild.”

By Dusty

June 13, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

Saddam did get out and meet the people in Baghdad. Then they ended up in mass graves, his son’s torture chambers or prisons.

Your memory is short and selective.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

Here Dusty,

now you don’t have to imagine what his teeny his pee pee looks like

Something to go along with your crucifix.

Double your pleasure, girl!!!

By Long Live Bush

June 13, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

Is there anyone, anywhere in the world who would shoot Bush with Cheney slavering in the wings? Why do you think Bush keeps Jabba the Hut around?

By getalife

June 13, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

I remember video of people treating him like a rock star. Women wailing, people cheering, like with Clinton. LOL.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

Dusty, RW, and Buy Danish,

I just shook my head over all the negative posts here about our Commander in Chief. Today, President George W. Bush proved his heroism and his patriotism. The same courage he exhibited flying bombers during the Vietnam War is on display like a bright, shining star today. He`s in Baghdad, celebrating the democracy he single-handedly brought to Iraq.

Why didnt Bush go earlier like Senator Kerry or Tony Blair? Well...in the run up to the invasion, Bush kept saying "at a time of our choosing." This proves he is in control and can decide what is going to happen and when. He chose today. Not because Democrats are about to announce their agenda, not because his poll numbers are sagging, but because today is the very best day. By tomorrow we can all help Mr. Gallup celebrate that rocketing uptick. It will be a great lead-in to our July 4th festivities. Im going to hang my big flag.

Liberals say some terrible things about Our President. They seem to forget he has a chainsaw and almost beat Lance Armstrong once. Only brave people use chainsaws. The others use pens or drive to Borders. Thats why the Governor of California had to teach us about “Girlie Men” so wed learn to spot them and not waste our votes on them. President Bush isnt in that category and he`ll prove it today when he walks alone in freedom down Main Street in Baghdad. If we see men with guns around him, those will be folks hired to hold back the cheering crowds. Lots of people over there want to get to our president. They have bouquets for him, just like some of the PNACers said.

There are times when events are so huge that we have to stop what were doing and applaud. This is one of those times. Our president is in Baghdad, representing our country to all the world. Im hoping that hell make a speech about the good news: electricity back on, sewers up and running, pipes filled with cold, delicious water, air conditioners humming. Maybe hell be able to annpounce that all but one morgue is closed. I`m proud and filled with hope.

Amen.

Jesus Wept.

Gawd Bless George W. Bush.

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

The dang Wilson Report didn’t even say Saddam didn’t try to acquire yellow cake from Niger, it simply said it would have been immensely difficult.

Also, I have seen no evidence Plame was undercover within the last five years (only a front company closed more than five years ago). But, the left has given her a good retirement package since she told them what they wanted to hear.

Don’t bother me with the facts, I am seething with rage and really hate Bush.

By Dusty

June 13, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

Rushncap,

Don’t let your depression get the best of you. When I become a Democrat THEN I will start whining. That’s THEIR trademark. Not my good ol conservative happiness.

Now SMILE!!!

By Patriotic Fever

June 13, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

Bush is dumb enough to plant our flag on the Temple Mount, and you’re proud that the toilets flush in his Baghdad hotel? Our army in Iraq is the worst case scenario envisioned by Revelations, Nostradomas, Edgar Cayce, Carnac, and every single war games think tank ever assembled.

Did you know that there are hundreds of logistical geniuses who sit around all day 24/7 365/yr and wonder, “what if….how many men…what would it take…”? The 3 conclusions they have come to is:

1) Never start a land war in Asia (or Iraq).

2) Never mess with death when a Sicilian’s involved.

3) Ann Coulter is a dirty rat.

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 13, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish/Granny Weatherall,

Zarqawi dead- good thing; That we created him in the first place by throwing Iraq into chaos- bad thing

Rove not being indicted? It’s sad when you have to cheer that one of the members of your administration did not get indicted.

K.A. Porter? Yes, she was a communist sympathizer. Yes, she is on the reading list for all Georgia public school students (gotta love that, don’t you?). Yes, I am a socialist. And yes, Jesus will jilt you just like Granny Weatherall.

By clark

June 13, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

getalife;

oh, the neo-cons are going to have a field day with your 11:08 post

By Joe

June 13, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

Check out this commentary about the debacle that the administration has gotten us into. When is the hard right going to recognize that we have gotten ourselves into an expensive, fruitless mess in Iraq?

By Troubles With Comprehension

June 13, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

By rushncrap June 13, 2006 10:47 AM So how many people knew he was going to Iraq, li’l andy?

Well, gee, the whole world? When you are standing at a podium in Iraq telling everyone that you will be there for a few hours, these things don’t ring a bell for you?

Aren’t these questions you should be asking teach over there at the pinko learning camp? Or are you afraid of being sent to your corner with that dunce cap again?

Does teach abuse you?

By SarahConnah

June 13, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

Why, oh why can’t you find an Iraqi patriot with a shoulder fired anti aircrat missle when the civilized world really needs one? Curtsie

By rushncap

June 13, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

Dusty, when you become a Democrat, the party will have to re-evaluate its value system, and, most likely, adopt a better one. I’m not saying people can’t change, but your chances for improvement are very slim indeed. But feel free to remain happy. As long as you don’t know anything, might as well be happy. After all, a happy idiot is preferable to a depressed one.

By Dusty

June 13, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

Midori,

Vulgarities are your specialty. I’m really not interested in such stuff. Send your riff raff to your buddies. Maybe they like it.

By clark

June 13, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

SarahConnah;

you went too far with that one.

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

Anyone want to bet a few mangoes on whether Midori actually wrote the 11:09?

clark,

I like gealife’s 10:44 better. Somebody named Woodruff is letting Rove off the hook on criminal charges apparently. As for the 11:08, lots of people treat “good-time Charlie’s” as rock stars. When you don’t try to solve any problems you don’t make anybody mad.

getalife & Midori,

Please, please, please convince Joe Wilson and wife to sue Karl Rove. I would love to see Wilson getting the pig in a luau treatment at trial.

By A Double Lib Smack Down

June 13, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

By Buy Danish June 13, 2006 10:49 AM Have a miserable day! Zarqawi’s dead, Bush is in Iraq greeting the newly elected Prime Minister, Rove is not being indicted, Haditha is probably a hoax, you all didn’t win Duke Cunningham’s vacated seat, Wm. Jefferson is still in the House of Representatives, and Clinton is blaming hurricanes on Bush.

By Dusty June 13, 2006 10:51 AM Don’t be too hard on the poor lil’ libs today. After all, the rain has been pouring on their party for several days. Zaqawi dead! Rove not indicted!! Bush in Iraq talking to an organized Iraqi government!! All this fine news has them blue blue blue.

Shall we make it a triple?

Godless: The Church of Liberalism(Hardcover) by Ann Coulter Amazon.com Sales Rank: #1 in Books.

BWAHAHAHAHAHaaaaaa

By Dusty

June 13, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Rushncap,

You are right. A happy idiot is preferable to a depressed idiot. That is why I am trying to get you to change over so you can be a happy idiot.

And you are right again. The Democratic Party would have to re-evaluate their value system for me to get interested in their party. The problem is this: the Dems DO NOT have a value system. Kinda like the Invisible Man. You keep looking but you can’t see it or find it.

Now cheers!! And…SMILE!!

By SarahConnah

June 13, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

President Texas Air Guard Coward runs off to Iraq for another photo-op. Nearest thing to a ‘brave hunter’ posing with his ‘kill’. Hyena’s have always scavenger’s now haven’t they? Curtsie!

By Thomas Sowell

June 13, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

The beauty of doing nothing is that you can do it perfectly. Only when you do something is it almost impossible to do it without mistakes. Therefore people who are contributing nothing to society except their constant criticisms can feel both intellectually and morally superior.

Liberals!

By Daniel

June 13, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

But Sarah! Were his sleeves rolled up?

By Long Live Coulter

June 13, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

Thank God Ann Coulter’s book is #1. Think of all those millions of dollars that Republicans will NOT be able to spend to buy hate ads and fund smear campaigns. She’s already blown Zarqawi off the front pages and is now further educating the public about the TRUE nature of Republican morals, compassion, and values. Ann Coulter is one of the best friends that a Democrat could have!

By rushncap

June 13, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

Dusty and her smiling fetish. Is that new? Are you on a new prescription, perhaps?

I’ll smily, Dusty, when the Shrub is gone from the White House. You’ll smile until your doc or your dealer cuts you off.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

It’s a big day for the White House when an administration official isn’t indicted.

I guess that’s why Bush’s poll numbers have SOARED from 36% to 38%.

By Bobby Reed

June 13, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

At least Bush put on the unifoem. Bill Clinton ran off to Europe and demonstrated agaist this country. Still enough IDIOT’S voted for him to be President. Wonder if Monica still services him?

By Dusty

June 13, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

Hmmm… wonder if Sarah Connah is Goldie’s nom de plume? Or if “Curtsie” really means “Tipsy”? Or maybe “Curtsie” means “Paranoid”?

Hard to tell with this strange one. They do pop up now and then, unfortunately.

By candide

June 13, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

Muslims: Al-Bush the great Satan is in Baghdad. Aim your RPG’s together and carefully at that dunghead.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

RW,

Food for thought:

I’ll check back with you later.

And yes, I did write the 11:09

By candide

June 13, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Coulter would have made a good Nazi wife, like Magda Goebbels.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

Gee, Bobby

which “unifoem” would that be?

By Midori

June 13, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

RW,

I don’t have to “convince” Wilson to do anything, unlike you who gleefully and willfully defends a lying traitor.

Seems you’re the one doing all the “convincing” - to yourself.

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

I’m really surprised at you Democrats. It’s taken until almost noon for you all to have your talking points down. So, now that you are all reading from the same sheet of music let’s debunk the two “thoughts” you have today.

Don’t worry tomorrow’s another day. You can come up with whatever crazy theory you want and we will slap it down then.

By SarahConnah

June 13, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

Causes me extreme angst when Bobblehead is away from the whire house. Raises the odds on the next NeoCon terrorist event! Iraq has a heavy goat population doesn’t it? Is he gonna work in a visit to the author of his favorite crisis soothing book? “My Pet Goat”? Curtsie!

By Midori

June 13, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

RW,

It takes me a while to get my “talking points”.

I don’t get up until around 9ish.

By the time I come onto this board, I’ve reported to work, had my coffee and read my talking points.

Gotta improve on that don’t I? I was never a morning person.

I like it better this way - I have plenty of time to read and laugh at your nonsense and your constant whoring for your degenerate “leaders”.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry tomorrow’s another day. You can come up with whatever crazy theory you want and we will slap it down then.

Wow. Just wow.

Hey guys!! Let’s hold a meeting and come up with some theories for RW to slap down!! The GOP has promised him a bonus of .25 per comeback!!!

Ain’t capitalism grand, RW?

By Midori

June 13, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

Sarah,

that’s b-a-a-a-a-a-a-d!!!

:)

By SarahConnah

June 13, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

ON SECON THOUGHT Maybe now that Laura has taken up a clandestine residence in a DC hotel and the trip to Houston to see Barbara Antonette Bush is an obvious one, he needs the goats for a more personal event. Curtsie!

By getalife

June 13, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

RW,

Oops. Woodward.

You know the guy who wrote this great book.

By Daniel

June 13, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

Midori: You’re making too much sense. One more success like Iraq and we’re done for. Remember we went in to protect ourselves: “We don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud”; Then when that proved false we went in to “Topple Sadaam”; now we’re liberating Iraq. “Democracy in the Middle East”, and “Freedom on the March”. Watch the Haditha Massacre. Is that your democracy? Haditha is the natural consequence of a massive strategic failure. It’s going to get much worse.

By finch

June 13, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

BD,

I’ll take the “Socialist” Times over the Moonie Times any day. At least the NYT isn’t owned by a convicted felon who can’t speak English and thinks he’s the Messiah.

As for Christopher Hitchens… he either has to stop self medicating or start staying away from the Green Room mini-bars. Watching him blurt his addled nonsense on TV makes me cringe.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

David Horowitz laughed off of Larry King…

saw that last night.

It was HILARIOUS!!!!

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

finch,

One of these days would you mind showing us how the writing in the Washington Times has anything to do with the ownership.

You have vilified “Tailgunner” Joe, but guilt by association seems to be one of your stocks in trade. I guess it’s kind of like Kerry ragging Nixon and then telling us he had a secret plan for Iraq.

Andy’s right about you guys. Do you even think about the things you say?

By Midori

June 13, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

Word, Daniel.

Watch RW come back with something completely STUPID in trying to justify the GOP disasters.

But hey, at least his sweetheart Rove is free.

RW and Karl Rove sitting in a tree…..

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

Daniel, I know you want to think the reasoning has shifted, but how does this fit in?

”Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;” Golly, that is from 2002

Doom and gloom, the Iraqis are not willing to fight and die for the freedoms we take for granted and they have been denied for decades?

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this

Midori,

All’s not lost! Jason Leopold is sticking by his story, so you really aren’t the most delusional moonbat on the hovercraft.

And over at Kos they are starting to foam at the mouth that Rove has flipped and Cheney is going to be indicted.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

RW,

I’m confused.

About you and Karl: which is the “woman”?

and how do you “do it”?

By Patriotic Fever

June 13, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

Midori, if you’re at work and posting on this blog, then YOU’RE FIRED! Love, the Donald.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this

Doom and gloom, the Iraqis are not willing to fight and die for the freedoms we take for granted and they have been denied for decades?

yeah, we should have bombed their a-sses into freedom much, much earlier!!

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

Midori,

You could have stopped at telling us you’re confused. We’ve known that about you since this blog began, but if it helps your healing process to tell us over and over then you go right ahead. In fact if you want to just start repeating the same post and pretending it’s ml’s fault I won’t even bother you about it.

Do you have any other schoolyard chants you’d like to share? I heard they are very soothing to people with your condition.

By rushncap

June 13, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

Wow, well dug up, Scooter. That’s kind of like interpreting a corporate policy of “we need to overcome our competitor” to mean “let’s go over to their factory and dynomite it to the ground.” Only a neocon can interpret “promote the emergence of democracy” to mean “invade and occupy”. I guess Napoleon was only promoting democracy in Belgium and Russia. Makes all the sense in the world.

By Patriotic Fever

June 13, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

Hillary Clinton was booed by Liberals today over this comment: “My husband is to blame for the problems we have today. It’s a paradox. You see, if Monica had stayed quiet, Bill would have gotten out of that mess, yet, on the other hand, if she had a bigger mouth, he wouldn’t have stained her dress. Politics is a game of inches.”

By Goldie

June 13, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

Reading the posts of jubilant right-wingnuts here about Al-Zarqawi’s death reminds me of some of the other “turning the corner” events that have occurred to date in Iraq:

— Bush on the flight deck wearing a borrowed flight suit under the “Mission Accomplished!” banner in 2003;

— the falling of Saddam statue in Baghdad, 2003;

— the deaths of Uday and Kusay in 2003;

— the capture of Saddam Hussein in 2003;

— the first parliamentary elections in Iraq 2004;

— members of U.S. Congress displaying their “purple fingers” as if they were making some kind of big heroic gesture;

— the second election held in Iraq in 2005;

— the selection of a prime minister in 2006;

— OOPS, the 2nd selection of a prime minister in 2006;

— Condi’s announcement that over 100,000 Iraqi soldiers have been trained and are fighting the battles these days;

— Condi’s announcement that “thousands of mistakes” have been made in Iraq, and then she proceeds to put the blame on “tactical errors” with the ground commanders— no mention of all the “strategic errors” she was a party to;

— the death of Al-Zarqawi in 2006;

— the selection of Defense Minister and Interior Minister to complete the new Iraqi gov’t cabinet.

So, let’s see — how many corners have we turned in Iraq, and when will our troops be re-deployed to a saner Middle eastern country?

After all, our own Andy/You Whine blogger here stated that the Iraq war “is all but over” upon the death of Al-Zarqawi. Or is this just be another “turning a corner” in this never-ending war?

By Midori

June 13, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this

oh, RW, Please help me. Yes, I am confused!!!!

How can you be one of the “rule of law” party, yet defend every slimy incident of rule breaking your party commits?

How??

HOW????

Which furthers my confused state?

Could it be you’re a hypocrite? Only Democrats commit crimes in your world? Only Democrats should face justice for committing said crimes?

What I’m gonna do???

Help me!!!

You claim that the GOP is right about everything they do, yet when your “leaders” do something wrong and slime out of it, you celebrate.

What I’m gonna do???

Could it be you’re full of feces? Or do you like your feces served up nice and warm, spread all over Karl’s “manly” body?

By Crooked Democrat

June 13, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

Patrick Kennedy is pleading guilty and Bill Campbell is admitting to wrongdoing today. Somebody get ahold of Cynthia McKinney and tell her it’s “confession is good for the soul” day.

By The Fat Lady

June 13, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry, Goldilocks, hun, Andy got me up here to sing about Iraq, which I will, but at least I got to warm up with Karl Rove.

Another one of your stupid false predictions shot all to hell, don’t you libs get anything right?

LaLaLaLaLaaaaaaaaaaa.

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

Midori,

It’s interesting that you bring up “rule of law”, but you focus on the word rule not law. I think this is something you should point out to whomever you are working with.

Glad to help :-)

By Dusty

June 13, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

Oh, too early. I was sending a card to Candide at Guantanamo but he/she is still running loose. And Sarah Connah too.

What a shame. Such a nice climate down there. I hope they will be able to join their like-minded friends very soon.

By getalife

June 13, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

Yes, Tom admitted he was responsible for the culture of corruption and proud of it.

By rushncap

June 13, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry, Dusty, are you suggesting that candide is on par with most of the Guantanamo prisoners?

You’re a sick little puppy, ya know that?

By Dubya

June 13, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

Bush in Baghdad. Another childish, stupid, assinine, mindless, embarrassing, headline-grabbing stunt which only a wingnut could love. What brilliant minds at work in the White House. “Freedom On The March.” “Democracy Too.” “Bring Em On!” “Lets Git Them Eyeranians Next!” “Mishun Complished!” God Bless Murcuh.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

Oh, the agony!!!!

I’m still confused!!!

RW, why won’t you help me????

I just read that Patrick Kennedy pleaded guilty to driving under the influence of prescription drugs, yet when Rush was busted, you defended his right to break the law any time he wanted!! You even derided the prosecutors!!!!

But you were so gleeful and judgmental about Kennedy!!!

Why were you so willing to give Rush a pass, yet called Patrick Kennedy a criminal?

Help me!!!! Please!!!!!

Only YOU can ease my pain with a rational explanation.

Wait. could it be???

are you two-timing Karl? Seeing Rush behind his back? Or do the three of you get together for a lil “sandwich” action????

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

Candide advocates the death of anyone that doesn’t agree with him/her. The prisoners at Club Gitmo advocate the death of anyone that doesn’t agree with them. You do the math.

Even in your world it’s hard to believe that calling for someone’s death is simply dissent.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this

It’s me again, RW.

I thought we were friends. I thought you wanted to help get me out of my constant state of confusion, brought on by you and your cackling cronies AKA Dusty and Buy Danish.

Like when the Democrats all called for William Jefferson to step down, for instance.

when Tom Delay was busted, you all went ballistic defending him and his many crimes.

The guy didn’t pass down a single opportunity to break the law, and you and your cheering squad shrieked loudly and often about “prosecutorial misconduct” and “no laws were broken”.

Why do you keep doing this to me? Why do you keep confusing me?

Don’t tell me you’re boinking Delay too?

My, my what a busy slut you are!!!!

By Daniel

June 13, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

Scooter: I support that statement. Heck! I fought for a statement a lot like that! This war is a total disaster. We can’t shove democracy down peoples throats. We will pay dearly for the fundamental strategic failures of this government. Those failures cannot be cured. They will never be cured. Haditha is the natural consequence of a terribly flawed war. We could have taken care of Sadaam as RWR took care of Ghadaafi. But the incompetent Bush had other designs. Scooter: How do you respond to Lt. General Craig Newbold? He said: “This war is run by poeple who have never had to accept responsibility for their mistakes or bury the results”.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

now I know what they good news is in Iraq!!!

Tony SnowDan Bartlett and the media can afford bullet proof vests!!!!

what a fool I was not to have seen this sooner!!!

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

Rushncap, I guess only a liberal would prefer to leave the promotion of democracy to the UN, they have done such a bang up job throughout the world. Well, with Syria and Cuba sitting on the Human Rights Council prior to our liberation of Iraq and their corrupt OFF aid program.

The point was Daniel was saying the rationale has changed constantly and you try to get us lost in your nuance. The reason has been the same, freedom and democracy in the heart of the region that attacked us.

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Maybe it’s time for your nap. I thought Patrick Kennedy went to rehab and I recall saying I sincerely hoped he got help with his addiction just as I’m glad it seems Rush got help with his.

Would you like to point out anything to back your assertions or are you going with the typical “prove you didn’t” line you wackos have become so fond of?

By Dusty

June 13, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

Candide and Sarah have suggested killing the president. Candide at 12:09 PM and Sarah Connah at 11:30 AM.

I believe this is the way terorists think, including those at Guantanamo. Don’t bother to tell me that is humorous because it isn’t.

As to being a sick puppy, nope. My husband has called me Kitty-kat on occasions but not because he thought I was sick.

Now SMILE!!!

By getalife

June 13, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Awesome pics.

This one shows the fear in the eyes

Welcome to the suck.LOL.

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

Daniel, shove democracy down peoples throats? I missed the American troops forcing those millions of Iraqis to vote, shyte I thought their were happy to vote for their representatives. There I go thinking all people long to be free.
Do you think all wars go smooth as butter and Presidents should micromanage wars, like Johnson and McNamara(sp)?

By The Moderate Voice

June 13, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

I think it is funny to hear both sides attempt to paint the others as more corrupt. Both parties are inherently corrupt. One of the many reasons why I don’t donate either party and vote for the best candidate. Jefferson and Cunningham are both jokes who are in this for their own monetary gain, not to represent their constituents.

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

Midori,

My, my are you mixing in a little crack with the caffeine today? When was Tom Delay’s trial? I must have missed that conviction. It is certainly suspect that Ronnie Earle and his film crew had to shop six grand juries to get an indictment and has already had one of those thrown out. That being said, if Delay is convicted of a crime he should do the time.

William Jefferson hasn’t even been indicted. Are you sure you have a yearning desire to do the right thing or are you trying to throw him under the bus to save your own embarrassment?

Here’s a hint for you: If you throw him under a bus during an evacuation it won’t do you any good. The Mayor of Chocolate City won’t let the buses run under those circumstances.

By Patriotic Fever

June 13, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this

Whats wrong with W in Baghdad? He should be there to see for himself what he’s wrought. The new Iraqi government is like a bubble boy, making decisions for imaginary alliances and compromises that no Shia will accept. As soon as we leave, even if it’s in fifty years, they’re gonna resume their 10K year old tribally based ethnic civil war. Not to mention what the sectarian issue will bring. (shia vs sunni) That’s not even considering the Kurds, or the Persians (Iran). Us being there unleashed all those ancient feuds that Saddam had put well in Pandora’s box. A little child (W) shall lead them into the abyss………

By rushncap

June 13, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this

Dusty, does the term “TMI” mean anything at all to you? Ugh!

Killing Bush? Nah, I’m opposed to that. Putting him behind bars for the rest of his life? Maybe in Guantanamo? Now THAT is a good idea.

By Patriotic Fever

June 13, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

WHAT IS THE MISSION OF OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ? anyone?

By Midori

June 13, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this

See, RW - you’re just not treating me right.

You called Clinton a rapist and a threat to Democracy for getting a blow job.

Yet Karl Rove, in your eyes, is a great American patriot for being a traitor to his country and the fine men and women of the CIA.

Gee, I’d love to see the party you will throw when Scooter’s trial begins. Am I invited?

That’s one way you can make it up to me.

You are being very mean to me!!!

Karma is a b*tch!!!

By getalife

June 13, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

RW,

Told ya. LOL.

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

Midori, could you please show us where Plame was undercover within the last five years?

By Midori

June 13, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

There you go again RW. You try to throw me off the track by “throwing me under the bus”.

Which brings me to another question: why are you people so fascinated with buses? Were you a bus driver in your past life? Are you the reincarnation of Ralph Cramden?

Back to the here and now: Since when did someone being “indicted” mean anything to you and your cheerleading death squad?

Just hinting or dropping the name of a Democrat involved in a crime has always been good enough for you. Why change now?

I know why.

cause I called you on your crap, that’s why.

That’s no reason for you to keep being so mean to me. I came to you for help, and all I get are stupid comparisons that you didn’t bother to make in the first place.

I think I’m going to cry.

WAH!!! WAH!!!!

Hold me, RW. Karl, Tom and Rush won’t get jealous. They know you won’t cheat on them. It’s ok. It’s safe.

By Huge

June 13, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

In this case, Bookman has it right.

Only 26 percent of Americans believe that their country is headed in the right direction, according to an Associated Press poll released last week. But surely brighter days are coming, thanks to the farsighted leadership of the U.S. Senate.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), one of the leading candidates for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, apparently believes that what our country really needs at this moment in its history — the thing that’s gonna pull us out of our national funk and set us straight again — is an amendment to the U.S. Constitution that bans flag burning.

So within two weeks, Frist will insist that the Senate set aside business he considers less important so it can turn its attention to the crucial question of flag burning.

…Frist sincerely believes that once it is against the law to burn flags in this country, the war in Iraq will begin to wind down, the price of gasoline will drop, health insurance will become available and affordable to all, scientists will discover that global warming isn’t really a problem after all, our national debt will begin to shrink and illegal immigrants will stop flowing across our borders.

Or, Frist believes that pushing the amendment will somehow boost his political career and that of his fellow Republicans.

What is it with these guys?!! For the life of me, I cannot understand why these political fools keep trying to “leave their mark (or is it stain?)” on one of our most cherished and sacred documents. First gay marriage, now this.

It’s almost to the point where I’d favor an amendment that precludes clowns like Frist, Bush, et al from being able to alter the Constitution in any way.

And yes, I find burning Old Glory by anyone repulsive and infuriating. But I detest fanatical statism and self-serving politicians even more…

By The Moderate Voice

June 13, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

Patriotic Fever, the mission of our troops in Iraq is to provide security to allow the Iraqi’s to form their government and stand up their own security forces. Where did you get that talking point from? Air America. That is no better than reciting Rush, Hannity, or Coulter

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

Oh Daniel, you asked how I respond to Lt. General Craig Newbold? Who said: “This war is run by poeple who have never had to accept responsibility for their mistakes or bury the results”.

I would say that is presumptive and could apply to almost any Commander in Chief who took on a difficult battle. Also, opinions are like a**holes. In addition, I don’t think Bush takes the deaths as easily as the left likes to portray. But he doesn’t cut and run like Somalia.

By Why Do You Ask Lib?

June 13, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this

By Patriotic Fever June 13, 2006 02:01 PM WHAT IS THE MISSION OF OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ? anyone?

To kill bad guys so that the Iraqi people can live free of fanatical islamic rule?

By Dusty

June 13, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

TMI?? Too Much Information?? Errrr WHAT?? The point is???

I see your thinking runs along the lines of those for whom you protest. Do you also sign Curtsie after you post? That’s a nice touch to cool kibosh comments.

By Losing All Credibility, Even If It Was Just An Itlle Bit

June 13, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

By Huge June 13, 2006 02:10 PM In this case, Bookman has it right.

The only ones talking about flag burning are you libs, crackpot. Goofball.

Jay Bookman, my oh my.

By Daniel

June 13, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this

Scooter: You can have the platitudes. The failed strategy places our boys on their second and third tours over the same ground facing an invisible enemy. And, by the way, out of an America that could care less. America is not at war. Can you think through and respond to the Newbold quote? Do you understand? I don’t give a flying f* about Iraq. And neither do most Americans. I want our troops to win. I want our boys in the best strategic position possible. The USA has its t** in a wringer. The generals told the politicians about a land war in Asia. The dummies wouldn’t listen and now we’re paying the price. Once again, having failed to learn the lessons of history American troops are killing and being killed by an invisible enemy in an endless struggle with no plan. Bush feeds the suckers “Freedom on the March” . Haditha is predictable. And, it’s going to get worse.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

By killing Zaquawi last week, that makes “one” terrorist down, and a brazillion to go.

at this rate, the “war on terra” will be over with on June 13, 3006.

You’re doing a heckofva job, Bush!!!

By Which Kennedy?

June 13, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

Kennedy pleads guilty to DUI

Don’t you guys know these things need to be clarified?

Oh, I’m sorry it was Patrick.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

But he doesn’t cut and run like Somalia.

LOL

Give him time. He’s working on it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

My, my - someone hit a nerve?

By Dusty

June 13, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

AH, saved just in time. Duty calls just as Huge starts quoting Bookman. BOOKMAN!!! That is a torture which should not be inflicted even upon the guilty.

I bid you adieu!

By Midori

June 13, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

The only ones talking about flag burning are you libs, crackpot. Goofball.

Bill Frist is a “lib”?

I agree that he’s a crackpot and a goofball, however.

By Ricky

June 13, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

Daniel, why do you assume the Marines are guilty in Haditha? Or is that just part of the liberal though process. Midori, it is obvious you don’t understand the fighting of an insurgency. You don’t win by killing all the insurgents, because you can’t. You win by establishing a working government and getting the people behind that government. That is what is happening in Iraq right now. Yes killing Zarqawi is a big deal, because he is an inspiration to a lot of would be terrorists, but the ultimate solution is a political one.

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

Daniel, perhaps I responded to the Newbold quote while you were typing, but it is ^^^^. Fighting an invisible enemy and America is not at war. Terrorists are always going to be invisible and Al Qaeda has declared war on us. When they declared war UBL said that Somalia demonstrated we are a paper tiger and would run at the sign of a fight.

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this

Midori, you are supposed to be finding evidence that Plame was undercover within the last five years.

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Why are you mocking the dead that could have been safely evacuated from New Orleans by bus? tsk, tsk

Just hinting or dropping the name of a Democrat involved in a crime has always been good enough for you. Why change now?

Don’t look now, but your projection is showing.

By You Can't Get Anything By Midori

June 13, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

By Midori June 13, 2006 02:30 PM Bill Frist is a “lib”? I agree that he’s a crackpot and a goofball, however.

Not only that, he’s a failure. He should pop Harry Reid like a zit but no, he cowers before that silly harlot.

See, we can agree on somethings…

By Goldie

June 13, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

But he doesn’t cut and run like Somalia.

Scooter— or like Reagan “cut and run” in Lebanon?

The main difference, of course, is that neither Clinton nor Reagan started a pre-emptive war that they had to cut and run from… they were smarter than our current president. Remember this Iraq war wouldn’t last six months according to Rumsfeld.

BTW— I never thought I’d ever have to give Reagan credit for being smart, but compared to our chimp in the WH, Reagan was another Einstein.

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

Not only is she still whining, Dusty is still diddling herself with a crucifix as well.

Midori

The only person I know of who would even think of diddling with a crucifix is Madonna. Correction, the only 2 people I can think of are Madonna and you, who was apparently inspired by her.

And as for Tom Delay, he hasn’t been busted for anything, just indicted for nothing. Also, like RW, I can’t wait for Joe Wilson to try and sue anyone in the White House. I want him and Val Pal on the stand, under oath.

Finch,

I’m waiting for a rant from you about Patrick Kennedy being a criminal, since calling someone criminal is one of your favorite tools. In Kennedy’s case, do you know - does it get cleaned off his record at the end of a year?

But thanks for mentioning the Rev. Moon, as I was inspired to check him out on Wiki, and you know, while he’s a bit wacky in some respects, I found his bio very interesting and quite admirable.

Indeed, some of the details of his bio probably explain your apparent obsession with him. The Washington Times is still a better source for factual reporting than the Marxist Times, particularly since the Rev has actually experienced the horrors of Communism first hand.

OOTMinorityVOD,

An admitted Socialist! Well, at least you’re honest about it. Too bad you’re as ignorant as you are honest, particularly about “Jesus”. Jesus wouldn’t approve of you or any of your sanctimonious friends deciding my fate for me, using coke by association theories.

BTW, I wasn’t educated in Georgia schools, I was educated in New York City - perhaps that explains the curriculum lapse which left me unfamiliar with Granny Weatherall.

By Huge

June 13, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

The only ones talking about flag burning are you libs, crackpot. Goofball.

Duty calls just as Huge starts quoting Bookman. BOOKMAN!!!

Yet more intelligent debate from two of the more renowned mental giants here…

By rushncap

June 13, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

Ah yes, Dusty, TMI?? Too Much Information?? Errrr WHAT?? The point is???

Spoken with all the eloquence we’ve grown to know and love.

By Enormous

June 13, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

Now Huge is talking about giants. What are you compensating for “big” guy?

By Huge

June 13, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

BTW— I never thought I’d ever have to give Reagan credit for being smart, but compared to our chimp in the WH, Reagan was another Einstein.

God, Goldie, you’re killing me!!! But alas, I fear you are correct…

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I think TMI means “Too much information”, which is what Midori gave all of us when she put the words crucifix and diddle in the same sentence.

Meanwhile I think that rushncap may suffer from TMJ - the result of too much jaw wagging.

RW,

Doesn’t that picture look just like Midori? Or is it Goldie?

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 03:06 PM | Link to this

Goldie, you said; “The main difference, of course, is that neither Clinton nor Reagan started a pre-emptive war that they had to cut and run from… they were smarter than our current president. Remember this Iraq war wouldn’t last six months according to Rumsfeld.” Would you like to think about that statement? I would agree, if you said Clinton never finished a premptive war.

By Forefathers

June 13, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

to “Why Do You Ask Lib”

And what does that have to do with defending the constitution?

By Midori

June 13, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this

aw, Buy Danish

you DO care about me!!!!!

and here I was thinking you were mad at me for telling everyone what you and Dusty have been doing with that crucifix!!!

smooch

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

Bingo, and wouldn’t it have been nice if Clinton had actually taken some meaningful pre-emptive action, not only against Bin Laden but also in Rwanda?

Goldie and Midori think that the War on Terror is hopeless and just want us to give up and put on our Burkhas.

They fail to understand the importance of killing Zarqawi, the General and strategist, and have demoted him to ordinary foot soldier. Of course, one can’t expect too much understanding of war (or peace) from people who are so clueless about history.

Oh, I forgot that OOTMVD still claims that Zarqawi is Bush’s monster, ignoring the historical fact that the guy had been hard at work since the 1980s.

By Midori

June 13, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

no Buy Danish - I think YOU are hopeless.

By the way — do you wash that thing off before passing it back to Dusty?

By KZ_Guy

June 13, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

George W Bush flying bombers in VietNam. Who are you trying to Kid ? The only thing W did during the VietNam war was play golf at Maxwell AFB when he did show up. The ONLY personal courage W has ever demonstrated was giving up the bottle. He is a loser, loser. loser. I feel sorry for Richard Nixon’s family when W is compared to Tricky Dick.

By Huge

June 13, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

Now Huge is talking about giants. What are you compensating for “big” guy?

Poor little Andy. Nothing of import to say, just using up valuable oxygen and constantly proving what a tiny dickhead he is…

Now, in an effor to be Fair and Balanced (Uh oh! Fox news may sue!!!) here is some commentary from Wooten’s column:

In an obvisous effort to pimp his blog, he mentions several contributors (the list does not include our infamous sociopathic spammer nor any of his minions) who give recommendations to both political parties. Surprisingly out of character, he uses great restraint in lambasting an obvious target of his, the Dems; more so in an effort to promote his blog as a haven for moderates, I suppose, than to promote his usual opinions on the matter. Forthe most part, it is interesting and a very good read.

The respondents had numerous downright good ideas. One of them, “If you’re a liberal, darn it, God bless you and be one. If you’re not, that’s fine, too - just stop being afraid of your own shadow.”

I have only visited his blog once, and though it had been in existence for an exceedingly short period of time at that point, I was impressed with the LACK of venom and name-calling there, and unless that has changed recently, maybe it really is a place for intelligent moderates…

By Patriotic Fever

June 13, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

CARTOON IDEA: Show Ann Coulter as Paul Revere riding out ahead of the 911 Widows Marching on Washington and yelling, “The Btches are coming! The Btches are coming!”

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Thanks for proving how disgusting you are. And you’re one of the Dems proudest cheerleaders. What a triumph that they have Midori as one of their spokesman!

Congratulations, with your tasteless sacrilegious “humor” you manage to make Ann Coulter look positively sweet, and prove her right at the same time.

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

Huge,

Save your speeches for Midori. Okay? She’s the sociopath.

By Goldie

June 13, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

Which of Bush’s PR stunts would you pick as your favorite:

1) Today’s 5 hour visit to the “green zone” in Baghdad; OR

2) The surprise trip to Afghanistan to deliver the fake turkey in 2003.

Please vote only once for #1 or #2 — thanks!

By I Could Care Less

June 13, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

By Huge June 13, 2006 03:40 PM Now Huge is talking about giants. What are you compensating for “big” guy?

Not me, dickhead, I don’t swing on no limb. Check with your fellow pinkos on this one, moron.

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Ha Ha Ha. Keep it up. You’re second in line after Midori to be the official spokesman of the Dem Party.

By Goldie

June 13, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this

OK Danish — so I’ll mark you down for #1, is that correct?

By Huge

June 13, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

Andy, The phrase is I couldn’t care less, you idiot! Jeez, did you sleep all the way through high school? (assuming you even showed up)

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/care.html

I’ve repeatedly warned you dummies, when you choose to screw with me, you will lose.

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, I think they also fail to realize the devastation our soldiers would have likely experienced had we only pursued UBL in the mountains of Afghanistan. Not to mention all the free time they would have to plan the next attack, one is certainly coming, but Iraq may have served as a temporary distraction. When an attack happens, I feel confident that it too will be Bushes fault for liberating Iraq, in the blind hateful eyes of libs.

“What is preventing us from making a general call to arms is the fact that the country of Iraq has no mountains in which to seek refuge, or forest in which to hide. Our presence is apparent and our movement is out in the open. Eyes are everywhere…”

”The zero-hour needs to be at least four months before the new government gets in place. As we see we are racing time, and if we succeed, which we are hoping, we will turn the tables on them and thwart their plan. If, God forbid, the government is successful and takes control of the country, we just have to pack up and go somewhere else again, where we can raise the flag again or die, if God chooses us.”

I say die.

By Goldie

June 13, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this

So how can Bush tell Americans that we finally have a working government in Iraq, and yet he shows up unannounced to visit with the P.M. there? What legitimate government anywhere would allow that to happen?

Methinks something fishy about this new Iraqi government…

By finch

June 13, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

BD,

I’m waiting for a rant from you about Patrick Kennedy being a criminal, since calling someone criminal is one of your favorite tools.

You clearly have me confused with someone else. I have never called anyone a “criminal” here.

Oh, I forgot that OOTMVD still claims that Zarqawi is Bush’s monster, ignoring the historical fact that the guy had been hard at work since the 1980s.

OOTMVD just had his Bushes mixed up. When Zarqawi was in Afghanistan in the 1980s, he was bankrolled by the Reagan and Bush administrations who though his hatred of the West was confined to Moscow.

I guess you forgot that part.

By GodHatesTrash

June 13, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

Hi folks,

This is my first time on Mike’s blog - I’ve spent a lot of time over on Mr. Wooten’s blog, which is a welcome haven for the anti-politically correct.

I’ll be checking you out here more in the future - there appear to be some incredible southron conservative minds here I would enjoy debating! Many of you seem to be master debaters!

Later, gentlemen and ladies,

GodHatesTrash

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

finch, check it plea: Al Qaeda’s number two leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, confirmed that the “Afghan Arabs” did not receive any U.S. funding during the war in Afghanistan.

By Daniel

June 13, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

Ricky: The attorney for the Sergeant who led the platoon said they did it! He said they did it according to SOP. I.e. spray a room with gun fire before it is entered! This is your war. This is what you get and what you will continue to get. And, you can shove your political mumbo-jumbo up your a**. I hope that the loss of Zarqwai proves instrumental in the defeat of the insurgency. I fear, however, that will not be the case. Listen to the generals…Newbold, Shinseki, Franks, and the others. They will tell you how bad it really is. Forget the politicians. I support the marines. When political goof-balls place our troops in such a situation; the result is predictable.

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

He who speaks for god, come on back now ya hear. There are some master debaters and you can be pivot man.

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

For Presidential photo op stunts, nothing compares to 1994 when President Clinton just happened to find a pile of rocks, where no other rocks existed, on the beach in Normandy that he could fashion into a cross. Maybe this explains Midori’s fascination with using these things as pleasure instruments.

If we’re limited to your selections it has to be #1 since #2 never happened. Do you ever get anything right?

By GodHatesTrash

June 13, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

@ Goldie

Methinks something fishy about this new Iraqi government…

Not so much fishy as Vichy.

By GodHatesTrash

June 13, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

My all-time favorite Presidential photography was in Bedtime for Bonzo when a young George W. Bush stole every scene from the young handsome Gipper.

Beat the heck out of the clip of young Clinton meeting JFK.

By Leave Me Out Of This

June 13, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this

Huge Dumba-ss: If used sarcastically, as I have done, the phrase “I Could Care Less” is perfectly acceptable. If this is the best you’ve got for me, you might want to consider taking up crotchet or some other less strenuous hobby.

Besides which, this dispute is between you and that other lib. He apparently has the hots for you. Why his advances caused you to come after me is baffling, I sure hope you aren’t aroused or anything like that. Although I do believe that’s what he was after.

Leave me alone!

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

I think the Dems would have liked that we do what the Soviets did, which was to try to fight them on their own territory, and fail.

finch,

In fact, You called Rush Limbaugh a criminal. Indeed, that was the point of my Patrick Kennedy reference.

And as to who created Zarqawi, If anyone created him, it was his hideous culture and fanatatical religion which created him, and if you’re going to blame any Westerners, blame the Soviet Communists for invading Afghanistan in the first place.

You know, maybe if the Marxist Times and its Pulitzer Patriot hadn’t lied for so many years about Stalin and the wonders of Communism, they could have been defeated many years earlier, before they even thought to invade Afghanistan, and this whole mess might have been avoided.

And judging from your miraculous hindsight about Reagan and Bush, I guess you would have liked us to just let the media-empowered Soviets invade without resistance, which would have meant that the end of the Cold War may not have occurred at all.

Goldie,

None of the above. You see, I’m not a fake patriot like you, and I am celebrating the fact that Zarqawi is dead, Iraq has a newly elected (and apparently very competent P.M.), and that Bush went to Iraq to meet with him. Unlike you, I’m not making fun of one of the most important events since 9/11.

If you really cared about our troops, their future in Iraq, our nation, and our future (which depends on victory with the war on terror), you’d be cheering these events on also. But you don’t, so you can’t.

P.S. Where’s Cindy Sheehan?

By GodHatesTrash

June 13, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

@ Scooter

He who speaks for god, come on back now ya hear. There are some master debaters and you can be pivot man

Thanks Scooter little buddy - just point me towards your mouth, and please don’t get any on your GAP dress, honey.

And that’s God with a capital G.

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I really didn’t want to use that link because I thought the picture was too cute for either of them.

GodHatesTrash,

Welcome and let’s hope over here you will actually debate or attempt to back up your statements. I’ve challenged your positions at Wooten’s blog only yo have you vanish. Don’t expect to see this blog become a haven for moderates though.

Huge,

I’m glad you are so self-satisfied that you possess the intellect to correct colloquialisms. Everyone needs a purpose, some reach for the stars other get snarky about a saying and then proclaim their own brilliance.

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

RW,

Good catch. But, surely you can’t expect Goldie to know the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan!

By rushncap

June 13, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Danish’s grasp of history is about as tenuous as is her grasp of current events, politics, and psychology. Water has better grasp on Teflon.

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Here - I’ll make it easy for you. Here’s the stupid story about Bush and the turkey. You may take pride in getting your inspiration from a shamed WaPo reporter, just like Midori gets her inspiration from Madonna.

RW,

I posted the same photo last week - so I guess we’re on the same “wave length”, but your right - it is a bit too cute for them.

BTW, Why is it that I think that “God Hates Trash” is…dare I say it……..Midori?

By GodHatesTrash

June 13, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this

@ RW,

I don’t remember you.

Evidently your previous response was some nonsense I thought merited no further comment.

On Mr. Wooten’s board, as you know, there is a lot of silly b****** from cons, you know, the same schtuff that Boortz, Hannity, etc. shout at them all day - it all sort of runs together.

I didn’t realize you were so sensitive. My apologies.

In our future communication, do I refer to you as Mr. RW or Ms.?

Respectfully,

GodHatesTrash

By Huge

June 13, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

Andy, you seem incapable of reading information in links before you respond. I know this is going to be very, very difficult for you but try actually reading the following:

Clichés are especially prone to scrambling because they become meaningless through overuse. In this case an expression which originally meant “it would be impossible for me to care less than I do because I do not care at all” is rendered senseless by being transformed into the now-common “I could care less.” Think about it: if you could care less, that means you care some. The original already drips sarcasm, so it’s pointless to argue that the newer version is “ironic.” People who misuse this phrase are just being careless.

And your second paragraph merely proves again how you can come up with the most convoluted crap ever written down. It doesn’t even make any freakin’ sense. That is a tribute to your writing skills, nitwit.

Oh and one more thing, the word is c-r-o-c-h-e-t, you numbskull. So your spelling is atrocious, as well, dropout…

You are the one who needs a hobby, preferably something that doesn’t require reading, writing or any word comprehension skills. You are in way over your head, little andy.

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I wouldn’t expect Goldie to know anything about military protocol for in theater Holiday meal service either and alas she proves me right.

I hate to say it, but as nasty as GHT is he/she still seems smarter than Midori. Of course a snail darter is too.

By Frog March This Libbie

June 13, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

In a vintage Rove speech Monday in New Hampshire, he assailed Democrats such as Rep John Murtha, D-Pa., for criticizing Bush’s conduct of the war. “They may be with you for the first shots; but they’re not going … to be with you for the tough battles,” Rove said.

Right between the eyes.

That had to hurt, y’all.

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

Finch on Rush,

*If he and his fans are smart, they’ll realize he was a two-faced junkie, more dishonest than most, who was a criminal but a victim, too. If they’re both dumb and think he’s being persecuted, that’s their shame.

Where’s the rant on Patrick Kennedy?

By Nucular

June 13, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

Bush. we have always known of his lifetime of stuipidity, alcoholism, failure in even daddy’s businesses. Today he once again reveal his obsession with his own sheer insanity. This traitor needs to be locked up somewhere. Anywhere.

By Huge

June 13, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this

Now, RW, don’t get your panties all in a wad, over me berating your bully buddy. As been observed here before, he brings it on himself.

And tell us, my friend, since you bring up the topic; what exactly is your purpose?

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 06:17 PM | Link to this

Rushcap,

Why don’t you be a man and dispute something I’ve said instead of making unsubstantiated comments. Get out your mirror if that helps you.

RW,

I don’t know about your assessment of GHT^^. Unless he/she has been jacked already.

By Why Is Huge Stalking Me?

June 13, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

This may come as a surprise, professor, but when you say “I couldn’t care less” you have quantified the statement and you have removed all sarcasm. Back to school with you.

However, you are correct about “crotchet,” not the spelling, hero, but my usage of the word:

crotchet- n- a strange attitude or habit

You’ve already got this one down pat. Have I not nailed you?

Now I believe your man needs some attention.

I don’t.

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

Whaaaaa….waaaaaaaahhh

By Scooter

June 13, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this

He who speaks for God, I apologize for the pivot man comment, I try to refrain from such comments. However, if you would like to find my mouth I hang out at The Highlander and have a tattoo of the “Trail of Tears” on my left forearm.

By Huge

June 13, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

In a vintage Rove speech Monday in New Hampshire, he assailed Democrats such as Rep John Murtha, D-Pa., for criticizing Bush’s conduct of the war. “They may be with you for the first shots; but they’re not going … to be with you for the tough battles,” Rove said.

In vintage gop chickenhawk fashion, leave it to a fat scumbag of a coward to use that phrasing referring to a combat veteran and decorated Marine. Typical of your, cowardice is valor, lies are truth, wrong is right neo-con losers like andy…

By finch

June 13, 2006 06:29 PM | Link to this

In fact, You called Rush Limbaugh a criminal. Indeed, that was the point of my Patrick Kennedy reference.

Au contrare! I noted that Rush had copped a drug plea, and then defended his fight (along with the ACLU) to keep his medical records private.

By RW-(the original)

June 13, 2006 06:29 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

It was just a quick observation based on a few interesting, but wrong headed comments at Wooten’s blog. If this is the normal GHT then it really has no redeeming qualities.

Huge,

When you choose to tell all that read how brilliant you are, I would hope that you had done something more than give your idea of the way everyone should speak. What is it with you and your insistence that all speech must be approved by you?

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 06:30 PM | Link to this

What’s this? Mr. Sanctimonious (aka HUGE), calling someone a “fat scumbag”?

Huge, please set up a website at My Space, post your photo and provide us the link so we can all marvel at your magnificent body and your steroid-enhanced brain. Don’t forget to wear Speedos!

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 13, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

BD/Granny,

I know, you were educated in New York. We’ve already been over this information. I was too, and we’ve already established that you have less education, so you throwing around the word ignorant is just, well, ignorant (especially considering you had no knowledge of the reference in the first place).

But go ahead, continue to enlighten us with your silly ideas. We’re amused by the pomposity and arrogance that accompany your ridiculous tirades. At least Andy doesn’t masquerade as an intellectual.

While we’re being honest, why don’t you admit to your love of fascism?

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

finch,

OOPS! I guess you missed my 6:12 ^^^where I found just one of your many snarky Limbaugh quotes from the archives. You used the word criminal and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Seeker didn’t agree with you too.

Oh well, lose some, lose some.

BTW here’s more on funding and arming The Mujahadeen - it’s for rushncap too:

Rushcap/Finch,

The person most responsible for single-handedly arming the Mujahadeen was Charlie Wilson, DEMOCRAT, Texas.

Read the book Charlie Wilson’s War by former 60 Minutes producer George Crile for more details, or read the short version here

Or you could wait until the movie comes out, starring Tom Hanks.

By Huge

June 13, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

crotchet- n- a strange attitude or habit

Nice try, dipstick, but there’s one little bitty problem - it doesn’t fit the context of your usage!! Give up while you’re behind… (or is it your behind, since you are so infatuated with all things homosexual?) So I’d have to say, No. You have not nailed a single thing yet…

By Genocide Is In Fashion With The Libs

June 13, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this

I believe what Rove was referring to, and he was using Filthy Mouth Murtha as an example of, is America’s standing in the world. That being the America that abandoned Vietnam, for instance, to the communist killers.

FM Murtha is a perfect specimen of pinko to use, he’s much like a grown up spineless Huge, voting for the war and then wanting to dump Iraq to the mass murderers, double crossing those who long for freedom.

What Rove is saying is that we will not quit the Iraqis like you sissy libs did to Somalia.

Which makes your defense of Murtha despicable. What a real maggot you are, huge.

By Daniel

June 13, 2006 06:42 PM | Link to this

Mikey: Pull the plug. I’m outta here!

By Huge

June 13, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this

BD, Your infatuation with me notwithstanding, you’re dumbass is showing again… Let me guess, you’re fat? (Rove really does look like a fat little pig, doesn’t he? But more to the point is that he’s just a political assassin, or did you not notice?) And even if you’re rail thin like your hero ann c, I’ve already told you that you are definitely not my type! So please take the hint and no more requests for photos…

By Let's Vote

June 13, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this

crotchet- n- a strange attitude or habit

Does this not describe Huge to the nines?

Yes or No.

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 06:50 PM | Link to this

OOTMinorityVOD,

You haven’t established squat except that you’re a socialist who thinks he’s a psychic (which is an oxymoron, since a true psychic would not only be able to look into the future, but would also know what an abject failure Socialism has been in history and would therefore reject it.)

Moreover, I hate to disillusion you, but the be all and end all of a great education is not knowing who Granny Weatherall is.

Have a miserable evening school boy.

finch,

As you now may be frantically searching the archives to find the source of your own quote, I’ll save you the trouble:

By finch May 2, 2006 09:41 PM | Link to this

…This bears repeating:*

If he and his fans are smart, they’ll realize he was a two-faced junkie, more dishonest than most, who was a criminal but a victim, too. If they’re both dumb and think he’s being persecuted, that’s their shame.

Perhaps its coming back to you now?

By finch

June 13, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

The person most responsible for single-handedly arming the Mujahadeen was Charlie Wilson, DEMOCRAT, Texas.

And I have no doubt that Democrat Wilson used his secret super-constitutional powers to push Mujahadeen funding past the strenuous objections of Presidents Reagan and Bush.

Sarcasm off.

Remember where the buck stops.

By Which Is Worse, Al Jazeera Or CNN?

June 13, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

Our work in Iraq is far from over and we must now capitalize on this momentum by recommitting ourselves to victory there. Our military men and women, and the Iraqi people, need to know that we will not give up on them after the sacrifices they’ve made. A marine stationed in Fallujah recently wrote a letter to his hometown paper in Ridgefield, Connecticut, expressing what must be the view of many of his comrades in arms:

“In Fallujah, the people watch Al Jazeerah. However, they also watch CNN. A lot of them fear that the United States will soon cut and run. …Furthermore, they know that the insurgents will not end their efforts early…Therefore, if they help us, their lives and the lives of their loved ones will be in great jeopardy the minute we leave — if we don’t finish the job. Much that they see on American television leads them to believe that we intend to abandon our efforts before the new Iraqi government is capable of defending itself and its citizens.”

By Joe Roman

June 13, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this

After a three month illness, I’m back to nine-to-fiving again, so maybe this has already been covered. I can’t see how it could possibly be seen as a good idea for the leader of the force occupying a country to pay a “surprise” visit to the newly elected leaders of that occupied country. Doesn’t that make Iraq’s new government look like nothing more than puppets lining up to kiss the ring of the invader to the insurgents and every other Iraqi sick of living under America’s thumb? Already, the “Green Zone” is taking on the qualities of Shanghai in the thirties. Right up until the last moment, the British pretended they were sipping cocktails in the cozy confines of the Empire…until the Japanese practically rang the door bell. Bush’s visit is just another symptom of this administration’s steadfast denial of reality.

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this

Huge,

Santimonious little prig calls people fat scumbags and then tries to deflect his stupidity by suggesting that I’m fat too. Does being stupid twice make the first time less stupid? Nothing like Liberal genius not at work.

Let’s Vote,

Pretty darned close, although having Huge as a habit would be the worst high imaginable, and it would be the one time that going through withdrawal would be heavenly.

By finch

June 13, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this

BD,

…since calling someone criminal is one of your favorite tools.

I am still awaiting examples of the multiple times I have called various people “criminal”.

You must at least show me a half dozen before I acknowledge that it’s one of my “favorite tools”.

You may begin your search…… now.

By Huge

June 13, 2006 07:07 PM | Link to this

Blah, blah, blah…Huge, voting for the war and then dumping Iraq…blah, blah, blah…

Really, I must have missed that, since I’ve taken a public stand against the invasion of Iraq since King George II first started “cooking the books” to do it. I’ve repeately denounced the dems as spineless for not speaking out against these chickenhawks when they had the chance.

But apparently andy the little enjoys being completely exposed as a psychopath in a public forum. Anybody, and I mean anybody, who has read my posts of the past few months knows I am disgusted by bush, that FAT piece of crap Rove, Dickhead Cheney and all of the other p****** in this administration and their concocted war schemes.

This oddball just doesn’t seem to grasp the simple fact that this is what happens when you make stuff up about people and then get burned by the truth. Is he really so simple that he doesn’t know this is the outcome? Is he really that stupid? It’s hard to believe, but apparently so. Does he not understand or does he just not care,? Either way he’s pathetic, that’s for sure. And, let’s face it, not much of a debater…

By Buy Danish

June 13, 2006 07:15 PM | Link to this

*I am still awaiting examples of the multiple times I have called various people “criminal”.

You must at least show me a half dozen before I acknowledge that it’s one of my “favorite tools”.

finch,

I’ve already shown you where you used it twice - originally, and then again, presumably to demonstrate how important and brilliant your original use of it was.

Now, you show me where the definiton of “tools” requires 6 or more uses. Start YOUR search now. Maybe OOTMVD or Huge can help. Ready, set, go!

By Senator Huge?

June 13, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this

By Huge June 13, 2006 07:07 PM Blah, blah, blah…Huge, voting for the war and then dumping Iraq…blah, blah, blah… Really, I must have missed that, since I’ve taken a public stand against the invasion of Iraq since King George II first started “cooking the books” to do it. I’ve *repeately (tsk, tsk, tsk) denounced the dems as spineless for not speaking out against these chickenhawks when they had the chance*.

Least I can keep track of my positions, you call this “denouncing as spineless?”:

By Huge June 13, 2006 06:24 PM In a vintage Rove speech Monday in New Hampshire, he assailed Democrats such as Rep John Murtha, D-Pa., for criticizing Bush’s conduct of the war. “They may be with you for the first shots; but they’re not going … to be with you for the tough battles,” Rove said. In vintage gop chickenhawk fashion, leave it to a fat scumbag of a coward to use that phrasing referring to a combat veteran and decorated Marine. Typical of your, cowardice is valor, lies are truth, wrong is right neo-con losers like andy…

Don’t get all flustered, dearie, your new to this blog so I’ll take it easy on you until you get more acclimated.

I wouldn’t want you to blow a gasket or anything….

By One of the Majority's Voices of Dissent

June 13, 2006 08:02 PM | Link to this

BD/Granny,

Yes, we have established that. We have also established that you have fallen far short of the standards you claim your family has set, and that you believe yourself to be part of the new American aristocracy, even though your ancestors are turning in their graves with every one of your posts.

No admission of fascist tendencies?

You are correct that none of us will decide your fate and neither will you; Jesus isn’t going to appear just because you want him to. As a matter of fact, when you are jilted you will realize all of a sudden, when it’s too late, that your entire life has been misguided, premised on lies and inaccuracies. Actually, it makes more and more sense that you’re a Republican. Perfect sense, actually. Keep spreading those lies, inaccuracies, and falsehoods. The country is finally coming to its senses.

By Oh the irony!

June 13, 2006 11:37 PM | Link to this

The Bush/Cheney/Rummy devils thought that paving over nations in the name of ‘democracy’ would win us global adulation. Plus candy and flowers. Nitwits.

As the war in Iraq continues for a fourth year, the global image of America has slipped further, even among publics in countries closely allied with the United States, a new global opinion poll has found.

Favorable views of the United States dropped sharply over the past year in Spain, where only 23 percent now say they have a positive opinion, down from 41 percent in 2005, according to the survey, which was carried out in 15 nations this spring by the Pew Research Center.

Remember Spain? The train bombings? They KNOW terror. And now they know the US.

Here’s another take on this poll, thanks to the BBC.

People in European and Muslim countries see US policy in Iraq as a bigger threat to world peace than Iran’s nuclear programme, a survey has shown.

How the he11 can Bush Inc. even think about global coalitions about anything? You KNOW we can’t do it alone. And Karen Hughes, Condi’s fluff girl can never fix this! Sorry Uncle George!

A particularly acrid growth from this fruitless debate is the contempt for and dismissal of public opinion in other countries. “So what if we have alienated public opinion in nations throughout the Middle East?” seems to be the attitude. “Who cares what they think?”

If I wanted to win a global war on terror, I’d sure be concerned about what they think. I would hope the right would at least be concerned over the damage being done to the American military by this war.

Sorry. Can’t be bothered. Gotta walk the dog, waterboard some prisoners and lord it all over those sand-bunnies. Next?

By Gee, I Wonder

June 14, 2006 04:30 AM | Link to this

Image of U.S. falls again

Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with our press and certain senators calling us torturers and murderers and every conceivable slight that they can print?

If the world can’t figure out that it is all partisan political BS, is that our fault?

By GodHatesTrash

June 14, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

@ Gee

The truth and the facts eventually get in the way of good spin and jingoism, in a democracy.

Sorry, bud.

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

finch,

First you deny ever using the word criminal. Then, after I cite where you used it and even proudly repeated it, you come back with a demand that I show that you used it elsewhere.

Twice is good enough for me to know that it is a favorite tool which you use exclusively to describe right wing addicts.

By Buy Danish

June 14, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

OOTMinorityVD,

In response to your hallucinations from 8:02 pm^^ -

If we’ve already been through this, then why did you blame the shocking fact that I wasn’t versed in a fictional character called Granny Weatherall on Georgia’s educational standards?

It is notable that you hold such reverence for an author who amazingly managed to sympathisize with Communism, Nazism AND Anarchism in one lifetime!

Further, we have had zero discussions about the relative merits of my education versus yours, nor have I ever claimed to be an “intellectual” so any assertions to the contrary are…let me use one of your words………………………….lies

As to my decision to leave the slaveocrat Democrats for the Republicans, the more I learn about the history of the Republican Party, the more proud I am to have joined their ranks.. Hat tip: RW.

And since you don’t know squat about anything, least of all my family history, isn’t it presumptious of you to be making claims about how THEY would feel about MY determination to stand with those who continue to secure the blessings of liberty?

I’m quite sure that they too would have ditched the Democrats precisely because the Left who control what goes on in the Democrat tent are the very embodiment of modern day Fascism, just as they were the peddlers of Communism last century, and (like you) continue to peddle Socialism and to control discourse through the insidious bullying of cultural Marxism.

Finally, unlike you, I don’t pretend to speak for Jesus or have advance knowledge of who will be jilted by whom.

P.S. It’s an old aristocratic family, nothing “new” about it.