Mike Luckovich

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

So who would you think made up the “Duh Vinnie Code” audience, the 65% Bush disapprovers or the 35% smart people? Looking at the weekend box office numbers, it looks like a whole bunch of dummies parted company with their money, even with all of the bad reviews.

Says a lot about their judgment, don’t it?

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

There is something more. Even though he doesn’t like to admit it, Bush is privately giving considerable thought to his legacy. He tells friends he defines himself as “an idealist about goals and a realist about means.” He wants to be remembered, says a senior adviser, as “a champion of freedom abroad and ownership at home”—freedom particularly in Iraq and ownership by everyday Americans of their houses, small businesses, and personal accounts for education, healthcare, and retirement. Bush aims to leave behind a series of institutional changes, aides say, that cannot be easily “unraveled” by his successors or future Congresses, such as massive tax cuts, the new prescription-drug benefit under Medicare, and a commitment to stable democracy in Iraq. Last week, Bush entered the fray over immigration, another big issue, with a well-received address to the nation in which he called for strengthened border security, a large “temporary worker” program, and a system to give millions of illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

There already have been plenty of books about our recent wars - most written by (and, of course, starring) generals and journalists. “Blood Stripes” isn’t about the generals’ war. It’s about the Marine corporals’ war: bare-knuckles-close and brutal. Author Danelo served as a USMC junior officer in Iraq, commanding convoys and studying his comrades. He doesn’t write about himself, but about Marines he knew - the men who did the fighting in the tragic First Battle of Fallujah, in Ramadi and Husaybah, and along the Sunni Triangle’s deadly roads.

Ultimately, the most impressive thing about the Marines whose stories are told here isn’t that they’re extraordinary men. Instead, we meet ordinary young Americans who, as Marines, do extraordinary things and share experiences that will forever separate them from those who remained at home.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

In a show of breathtaking demagoguery, Sen. Harry Reid, the leader of the Democrats in the Senate, called an amendment to make English the official language “racist.” (He forgot to call it “bigoted” and “nativist,” the other labels of the unholy trinity of immigrationist scare words). Eleven of his fellow Democrats approved the “racist” amendment. Mr. Reid can carry many tunes, usually off-key. A decade ago, when he voted to grant Social Security benefits to illegals, he complained that “Our federal wallet is stretched to the limit by illegal aliens getting welfare, food stamps, medical care and other benefits without paying taxes.” The next year, he said: “We must reduce the annual admissions of legal immigrants to more moderate levels in order to provide for a better country.”

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

Our economy is booming, but each of us — and every business — is suffering from the high cost of gasoline. We’re suffering the results the enviro-whackos have imposed, without a new oil refinery or nuclear power plant in decades, without offshore drilling, and without opening the Alaskan National Wildlife Reserve to oil exploration. But offshore drilling there will be, because Cuba has agreed to Chinese oil and gas drilling in the Florida Strait. Just about fifty miles off Key West, China will be doing what American companies can’t. It’s all part of a larger plan by the self-styled Simon Bolivar of the 21st Century, Hugo Chavez. If we don’t start interfering with Hugo Chavez’s plans, we might as well sell our cars and buy bicycles.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this

Rude college kids and left-wing professors are hardly a new story. But the ugliness of the New School crowd toward Mr. McCain reveals the peculiar rage that now animates so many on the political left. Dozens of faculty and students turned their back on the Senator, others booed and heckled, and a senior invited to speak threw out her prepared remarks and mocked their invited guest as he sat nearby. Some 1,200 had signed petitions asking that Mr. McCain be disinvited.

Mr. McCain was invited to the New School by its president, former Democratic Senator and Congressional Medal of Honor winner Robert Kerrey. When Mr. Kerrey spoke, he was also heckled, with someone shouting, “You’re a war criminal!” It’d be comforting to dismiss all this as mere Manhattan derangement, but these passions have become common in liberal media and Web precincts and are spilling into national politics.

Be proud!

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 08:08 AM | Link to this

Mayor Giuliani, who has embraced Mr. Bush’s tax cuts and his policy of pre-emption in the war on Islamist terrorists, beats Senator Clinton in early 2008 presidential polling in New York State, which leans Democratic. Some of the dissatisfaction pollsters are finding with Mr. Bush no doubt represents disappointment in the president’s follow-through on the issues he ran on - tort reform, private investment accounts as part of Social Security, and, most of all, expanding freedom abroad and aggressively prosecuting the war on the Islamist terrorists.

Mr. Bush himself tends to shrug at poll numbers and take a long view. In a recent interview with a reporter for the German newspaper Bild, the president said, “I don’t care whether they like me at the cocktail parties, or not. I want to be able to leave this office with my integrity intact.” He spoke of three great wartime leaders of America - Washington, Lincoln, Franklin Delano Roosevelt - all of whom were subject to vilification and second-guessing of their wartime strategy. Yet we wouldn’t be surprised if the sense that Mr. Bush has pulled back - on the Saudis, the Iranians, the Syrians, and the Egyptians - were feeding some of the disappointment registering in the polls.

One simply can’t pause in the middle of a war. Mr. Bush grasps the point. When Bild asked the president, “Do you really believe we have a chance to win the war against terrorism?” Mr. Bush said of the enemy, “They can be defeated, and they will be defeated - so long as we don’t lose our nerve.” The best way for Mr. Bush to demonstrate that we haven’t lost our nerve is to stay on the offensive in a war in which the enemy is still active, is seeking to assemble nuclear weapons, and is, without a doubt, preparing to attack our own shores again at the first opportunity. If Mr. Bush does that, the polls will move in his favor.

By seeker

May 22, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

Genuine Republicans are rising up against their fake leader, George Bush:

For all of conservatives’ patience, we’ve been rewarded with the botched Hurricane Katrina response, headed by an unqualified director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which proved that the government isn’t ready for the next disaster. We’ve been rewarded with an amnesty plan for illegal immigrants. We’ve been rewarded with a war in Iraq that drags on because of the failure to provide adequate resources at the beginning, and with exactly the sort of “nation-building” that Candidate Bush said he opposed.

The current record of Washington Republicans is so bad that, without a drastic change in direction, millions of conservatives will again stay home this November.

I truly is the incompetence!

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

Don’t it figure, Queen Pinko’s answer to the immigration debate is to hammer on big business, bloodsport of the socialists:

Just once, I’d like to see a corporate executive whose company has knowingly hired illegal immigrants doing the perp walk for his offenses — handcuffed, disgraced, chaperoned by law enforcement officials as cameras record his every tentative step.

What wonderful compassion we have for the suddenly unemployable tens of millions of foreigners whose only reason to be here is work.

Besides which, what, pray tell, does this liberal demagogue, brimming with stupid overheated rhetoric, think this means?:

Perdue (A Republican, duh) signs illegal immigration bill into law

Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue on Monday signed into law a proposal to direct taxpayer-funded benefits away from illegal immigrants and designed to pressure employers to stop hiring illegal residents.

Either I know more about current affairs then the Editorial Page Pooh Bah of the Atlanta Urinal or she’s going all out for that Pulitizer.

By @@

May 22, 2006 08:21 AM | Link to this

Andy:

You’re 8:03 link is exactly why I voted for Bush. New and innovative programs that would take this country in a new direction of hope and prosperity for individuals as well as for a “collective” society.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

By seeker May 22, 2006 08:13 AM I truly is the incompetence!

For once seekling, we agree.

By sickofsleaze

May 22, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this

Baloney:Bush himself doesn’t read the polls, bush doesn’t read period but you better believe he pays attention when his lackeys do and is plenty worried.Have you heard him express “confidence” lately?

By Buy Danish

May 22, 2006 08:33 AM | Link to this

“Pacifist” hecklers greet Sens. Mc Cain and Kerrey. The same bullying punks are trying to prevent Condi Rice from speaking at B.U.

How belligerent these anti-war graduates are! Tsk Tsk.

By candide

May 22, 2006 08:33 AM | Link to this

The DaVinci movie was tedious and long. I was very disappointed. But still there is one thing about the movie I like, which makes it all worthwhile. The allegation is made and made again: the Christian Churches (Roman and otherwise) are indeed a criminal conspiracy against the truth about Jesus. Not that he was married to the Magdalene. But that Paul and the Gospel writers totally distorted his life and thought and expectations.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

A congressman under investigation for bribery was caught on videotape accepting $100,000 in $100 bills from an FBI informant whose conversations with the lawmaker also were recorded, according to a court document released Sunday. Agents later found the cash hidden in his freezer.

At one audiotaped meeting, Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., chuckles about writing in code to keep secret what the government contends was his corrupt role in getting his children a cut of a communications company’s deal for work in Africa.

“Chuckles” Jefferson. Yuk, yuk, yuk, hahahaha.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

OPRAH’S *FITNESS BOOK TO $ET NONFICTION RECORD*

You too can have a big a-ss, arms like a Soviet weight lifter and make billions talking all kinds of pinko nonsense to America’s truly gullible.

Just give me 49.95 and I’ll tell you how.

Thank you, gullible!

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this

Practice what we preach, er, shove down the throats of America’s truly gullible?:

BURN: Gore & entourage took 5 cars to travel the 500 yards from hotel to screening of global warming pic in Cannes…

Vote for me, gullible!

By Buy Danish

May 22, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

Candide,

Please share your version of the “truth” with us.

Andy and Seeker,

RE the WaPo column, I agree that conservatives are fed up, but I lay the blame at the Senate more than anywhere else. Bush has to work with the Rinos.

Cutting off funding to the RNC is a suicidal response, because without them we’d have all the bad stuff plus high taxes, and floundering economy, liberal judges, and a weak response to national security concerns.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

I watched Baghdad ER last night and it showed what is truly going on over there with no political spin.

I highly recommend this documentary, but it does get real bad.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this

Another theory shot down. But for the moment, it appears that nothing will stop the sort of viral speculation that is going on about the CIA-leak case. Even if Rove were indicted—and no one outside Fitzgerald’s office can say with any confidence whether or not that will happen—everything that has been reported in this latest round of theorizing would still be wrong. And if in the end Rove is not indicted, there will undoubtedly be confidently worded reports that he was saved only by some sort of corrupt dealing. What this latest round of Internet theorizing shows is that there are people who have a deep emotional investment (the nice way of saying a rabid foaming insanity) in the belief that Rove is a criminal, and that those people will suspend their critical faculties to accept almost any scenario that supports their belief. Nothing that happens—or doesn’t happen—will change that.

Bark, bark (at the moon.) Grrrrrr.

By Liberal Texas Democrat

May 22, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

Haven’t seen the film, don’t want to drive that far, and I’m guessing it’ll be at least eight months before Netflix offers it. But the cartoon speaks to my personal experience. Whether it’s a book or movie you can pretty much upset a good number the faithful without much effort or talent.

By finch

May 22, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

Don’t it figure, Queen Pinko’s answer to the immigration debate is to hammer on big business, bloodsport of the socialists

Newsflash! The Moonie Times, the propaganda rag owned by a zealot who thinks he’s Jesus (Suck’s favorite rag) points out the obvious!

“Among those who will be cleared of past crimes under the Senate’s proposed immigration-reform bill would be the businesses that have employed the estimated 10 million illegal aliens eligible for citizenship and that provided the very “magnet” that drew them here in the first place. “

Illegal immigrants, bloodsport of greedy, unethical businesses, with the blessing of Bush Republicans. If it weren’t for their contempt of the law and of common decency, we wouldn’t have an “immigration problem”.

By Angry Liberal Guy

May 22, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

Andy - I was curious about how Gore could have possibly been so stupid as to take 5 cars to travel 500 yards so I clicked the link you provided. When I saw DRUDGE pop up I knew you were full of $hit. DRUDGE has no credibility. How else do you transport an entourage of that number safely through the crowded streets of Cannes? In cars. Not SUVs but cars.

I didn’t catch the post where you criticized Dennis Hastert for leaving a photo-op in a hybrid vehicle only to switch to his SUV a block down the road for the short trip back to the capital.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

Another lying wacko theory meant to harm America is outed:

Those numbers sound impressive, but the chances of the ice caps’ fully melting are about as high as the chances of Time’s giving you an honest story on global warming. The truth is that there’s no solid evidence supporting the conclusion that we’ve locked the ice caps in to a melting trend.

About Antarctica, University of Virginia climate scientist Patrick J. Michaels is direct: “What has happened is that Antarctica has been gaining ice.” He explains that there has been a cooling trend over most of Antarctica for decades. At the same time, one tiny portion of the continent — the Antarctic Peninsula — has been warming, and its ice has been melting. The peninsula constitutes only about 2 percent of Antarctica’s total area, but almost every study of melting Antarctic ice you’ve heard of focuses on it.

By finch

May 22, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

What has Kenneth T. Walsh and USN&WR been smoking??

Last week, Bush entered the fray over immigration, another big issue, with a well-received address to the nation in which he called for strengthened border security, a large “temporary worker” program, and a system to give millions of illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.

Well received? On what planet??

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

Pretty funny cartoon today, Lucko!

I think it’s interesting that a mediocre movie (“Da Vinci Code”) or just an outright bad movie (“Passion of The Christ”) still rakes in so much dough… all hype, no art.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this

Angry Liberal Guy: Seems like your Gore fight would be with Drudge, dontcha think?

As for Hastert, Airhead Pelosi didn’t even have the modesty to use a hybrid when she denounced high gas prices, she pulled up to a station in a SUV, snapped some pictures and drove a block back to her office.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

On first glance, rock ’n’ roll music isn’t very conservative. It doesn’t fare much better on second or third glance (or listen), either. Neil Young has a new song called “Let’s Impeach the President.” Last year, the Rolling Stones made news with “Sweet Neo Con,” another anti-Bush ditty. For conservatives who enjoy rock, it isn’t hard to agree with the opinion Johnny Cash expressed in “The One on the Right Is on the Left”: “Don’t go mixin’ politics with the folk songs of our land / Just work on harmony and diction / Play your banjo well / And if you have political convictions, keep them to yourself.” In other words: Shut up and sing.

By finch

May 22, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Pretty funny Suck!

At least Pelosi didn’t try to hide her SUV. Dumb but honest beats Hastert’s “clever” but duplicitous every time.

By N-GA

May 22, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

And Finch lands a thunderous body blow, followed by a crushing uppercut….

By getalife

May 22, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

I thought this was not funny according to the wingnuts

Ha, ha, ha. Lol.

By bobby

May 22, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

Hey Einstein, it’s not the Antarctic ice cap melting that is the big concern, it is the Arctic ice cap. “There truth is that there’s no solid evidence supporting the conclusion that we’ve locked the ice caps into a melting trend”? Where in the Sam Hill did you hear that? Rush Limbaugh? Sean Hannity?

Here’s a plan. Type in “Melting Ice Caps” into the Google search engine. Click on the NASA link and read the report. If you want to make it REAL easy on yourself, look at the satellite photos of the Arctic ice cap taken in 1981 and compare it to the one taken last year.

No solid evidence? I love debating red staters. They never let minor things like facts get in the way of their argument.

By Joe Roman

May 22, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

Most critics I find credible have given “The DaVinci Code” negative reviews, but anything that yanks the chains of the nastier elements of rightwing “Christians” is okey-dokey in my book. I read recently where younger evangelicals are far more open-minded and less rigid and judgemental than the older leadership generation-people like Falwell, Dobson and Robertson. Maybe the Holy Trinity has finally had enough of these Pharasees and are coming to the rescue of us all.

By Ricky

May 22, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

finch, Bush talk was well received by most of the nation. Look at the polls. The people it wasn’t well received by were the blowhards on both sides. You even have Harry Reid calling people racist on the Senate Floor. This debate has shown that the majority of both sides are in this purely for politics, not for the beneift of the nation.

By tiff

May 22, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

EITHER YOU BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE “THE TRUTH” OR YOU BELIEVE IN THIS NON SENSE—TRUE CHRISTIANS WON’T BE FOOLED BY THIS. THOSE WHO DON’T HAVE A REAL SENSE OF WHO JESUS CHRIST WAS AND WHAT HE STANDS FOR THEY WILL BE FOOLED BY THIS. THE DEVIL IS OUT TO DECEIVE AND DESTROY—IF YOU ARE NOT STRONG GUESS WHO HE IS COMING AFTER.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

Gosh, bobby, I know you are the superior intellect here but don’t you think you should read the whole article I linked to?

I humbly simplified it for you.

By Ricky

May 22, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

finch, Bush talk was well received by most of the nation. Look at the polls. The people it wasn’t well received by were the blowhards on both sides. You even have Harry Reid calling people racist on the Senate Floor. This debate has shown that the majority of both sides are in this purely for politics, not for the beneift of the nation.

By Liberal Texas Democrat

May 22, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

Speaking of movies that get slammed by believers, one has to wonder how long it will take the conservative Christian base of Bush voters to wake up to the goings on in education in the Kingdom of his closest middle east allies and family friends. A review of a sample of official Saudi textbooks for Islamic studies used during the current academic year reveals that, despite the Saudi government’s statements to the contrary, an ideology of hatred toward Christians and Jews and Muslims who do not follow Wahhabi doctrine remains in this area of the public school system. The texts teach a dualistic vision, dividing the world into true believers of Islam (the “monotheists”) and unbelievers (the “polytheists” and “infidels”).

By bobby

May 22, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this

Another reason I love debating red staters. When it is pointed out that they really have no idea what they are talking about, or maybe that they are wrong, they get personal. Soooooo predictable.

No, I didn’t click the link. I just wanted to point out that there is solid evidence that shows the Arctic ice cap is melting.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

Having children is delayed for the sake of education and career advancement and the beginning of a financial nest egg. It is delayed for the sowing of wild oats (over a ridiculous number of seasons) and the accelerated accumulation of middle class wealth and its symbols — and such accumulation continues far beyond the level minimally necessary for the reliable and safe rearing of children. We live in what Phillip Longman has accurately called “empty McMansions,” large modern houses with three car garages and fourth bedrooms and tubs the size of aquaculture ponds –but with only two residents living inside the cavernous space. And even ensconced in such a place, we plan to have more before we do anything rash and consequential, such as “bring a child into the world.”

Children are delayed as well for “self-fulfillment” — emotional hedonism with a more self-fulfilling name. In their stead, we travel and date and accumulate the well-marketed totems of our success. For some, a child will never be permissible, since children have their own ideas about whose self-fulfillment is paramount. So a few grey-haired adolescents continue their dead-end materialistic masturbations and trophy seeking all the way to well-planned perpetual care burial plots.

Me, me, me!

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

Joe Roman— we can certainly hope that the younger evangelicals are more open-minded than its current leaders. Probably the result of feeling duped by all of the predictions of the end-of-the-world. Remember the “new millenium” predictions, and now we have Pat Robertson again predicting the destruction of the West Coast due to God’s wrath… I’m sure he’s raising a bunch of money for that to happen!

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this

LTD: When the “conservative Christian base of Bush voters” says let’s drill for oil in ANWR so we don’t have to send our treasure to people that want to kill us, what, pray tell, do you think we are talking about?

By candide

May 22, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

Why are the Christian churches a criminal conspiracy?

Jesus and his intentions were continued by his brother, James of Jerusalem who led the earliest Christians til he was killed by the High Priest around 62AD.

The writers of the Gospels worked to ignore the leadership of James and the family of Jesus who also preserved his movement. They preferred the hallucinations of Paul of Tarsus who had never met Jesus. Paul and others invented a divine Jesus whom James and Jesus’family knew never existed. Later the Church declared the followers of James heretics. Thus the Church preferred those who knew Jesus not at all for information and doctrine to those who knew him best. Christianity thus was a hoax imposed on credulous people. A criminal conspircy had succeeded.

By Midori

May 22, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this

The first one here in the morning, and the last one to leave in the evening.

Andy is so societal challenged that he can’t live without this blog.

He even posts on the weekends, even when the blog is closed for comments.

Watch out you guys.

When this guy blows, it ain’t gonna be pretty.

By AntiRadical

May 22, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

Good toon ML. The Christian faith in America has become more a political organization than a philosophical one. Since the country is pretty well divided evenly along political lines, that means that half of the population just isn’t welcome in the Christian church anymore. Its’ many duplicities such as support for the “death penalty” while proclaiming the “right to life” and “thou shalt not kill” as well as its’ many fragmented derivative sects (ala DaVinci Code)threaten to diminish the respect and support afforded Christianity.

Good editorial this morning in the print version of AJC regarding medical malpractice reform. Basically the author was reviewing recent studies by the New England Journal of Medicine and Harvard which found that the notion of frivilous lawsuits is truely just a myth. There are very few frivilous cases filed and when they are it is just a settlement ploy. Almost none ever make it to trial; even fewer prevail.

This meshes with my own experience. A good competent physician is not concerned about malpractice suits; only those who make a lot of errors want to have immunity from their mistakes. Those who do not make mistakes have no need for any immunity.

The argument that malpractice rates rise to accomodate malpractice losses is fallicious. They rise regardless of rather a physician has had losses or not. If Doctors are granted blanket immunity from responsibility for their actions, the resulting increase in medical errors will merely allow the insurance carriers to raise medical insurance premiums due to their increased rate of loss in that area. Either way, insurance rates and profits invariably rise.

The American public has been sold a bill of goods in regards to medical malpractice reform. The AMA has a very powerful lobby and many politicians have been paid off to fix a problem that simply does not exist. Medical malpractice reform is the legislative equivalent of “junk science”.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this

By bobby May 22, 2006 10:15 AM Another reason I love debating red staters. When it is pointed out that they really have no idea what they are talking about, or maybe that they are wrong, they get personal. Soooooo predictable.

By bobby May 22, 2006 09:54 AM No solid evidence? I love debating red staters. They never let minor things like facts get in the way of their argument.

By Buy Danish

May 22, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

JoRo,

You positively reek nastiness, religious intolerance, and close-mindedness. Kinda like those “pacificts” you so admire.

Tex,

The “revelations” in the WaPo are nothing new, but I’m glad the news is finally making the mainstream.

The Right are in the vanguard on this issue, correctly blaming a hateful ideology and culture instead of America and Americans.

Of course when we point this stuff out we are met with indignant protests from the outraged P.C. Left , who accuse us of being “haters” who practice “racism”, “intolerance”, “judgementalism” and the like.

David Horowitz’s Front Page Magazine is one of the best sources for information on this issue, with an emphasis on American professors and campus groups who peddle dangerous demagoguery on our soil.

Here’s a sampling just from today’s edition:

*Anti-Israel Hatefest at UC Irvine: Justifications for terrorism, such as blowing up teenagers at pizzerias, could be found on the “For Justice We Fight” pamphlet published by Alkalima, the Muslim magazine at UC Irvine. Targeting innocent civilians is justified, according to the magazine, because “the individual or community that participates in jihad finds itself between two blissful outcomes, either victory and the establishment of justice, or the reward of martyrdom and Paradise.”

By finch

May 22, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

Midori,

And here I thought you were banned! Snark!! And aren’t Suck’s weekend posts a hoot? But they do keep him of the streets, where he would be a real danger to others…

Buy Danish,

I wouldn’t trust Horowitz as far as my dead grandmother could throw him. He is a bitter, hateful demagogue.

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

Along with the Islamic fundamentalists, we shouldn’t forget about some “Christian” fundamentalists who preach hatred and bloodshed on a regular basis… like the Christian Militia and its followers such as Eric Rudolph. Now there’s a great example of the Holy Spirit moving someone to act upon what Jesus taught us, right?!

Jesus would be horrified at what our religious leaders have done in His Name. A favorite t-shirt worn by a friend of mine back in the 70’s said: “Jesus Is Coming… And boy is he p*ssed!!”

By Ricky

May 22, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

I am constanly amused that people think all Christians are like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. They are representative of a small minority of Christians. Another thing that amuses me is that people will flatly refuse to believe anything from someone with a different perspective. Once again proving how far the political discourse has fallen in our country.

By seeker

May 22, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

America the Fearful By Bob Herbert The New York Times Published: May 15, 2006

In the dark days of the Depression, Franklin Roosevelt counseled Americans to avoid fear. George W. Bush is his polar opposite. The public’s fear is this president’s most potent political asset. Perhaps his only asset.

Mr. Bush wants ordinary Americans to remain in a perpetual state of fear — so terrified, in fact, that they will not object to the steady erosion of their rights and liberties, and will not notice the many ways in which their fear is being manipulated to feed an unconscionable expansion of presidential power.

If voters can be kept frightened enough of terrorism, they might even overlook the monumental incompetence of one of the worst administrations the nation has ever known.

It’s the incomptence!

By Buy Danish

May 22, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

half of the population just isn’t welcome in the Christian church anymore.

Anti-Rad,

What are you talking about? If anything, the Christian churches have moved so far to the Left that “mainstream” traditional beliefs are no longer welcome.

I am not talking about fundamentalists, I’m referring to the Episcopal Church, where people are leaving in droves and where a serious dispute with Anglicans is occuring.

And what about the Catholic Church whose attempts at “modernization” and dismissal of the traditional mass have made many Catholics feel “unwelcome”?

Or the Presbyterian’s who have taken up an official policy of divesting themselves in Israel - much to the dismay of Presbyterian congregants?

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

Seeker, I read Bob Herbert’s column last week, too, and I think he’s a great nail-hitter. Another column he wrote on May 11th called “Where’s The Beef?” was some great advice for the Dems running in the next elections coming up, telling them such as this: “Forget the theorizing and strategizing. Tell the truth about what’s happening now. Let the electorate know how much the Iraq war is costing— in human treasure, loss of influence around the world, increases in gasoline prices and cold, hard cash.”

By Midori

May 22, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

Finch,

I’ll bet that guy is a real menace when he’s sitting behind a steering wheel!!!!

wonder if he delights in moving down Liberals with his car?

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

Ricky, I will attest to what you say in that all Christians are not like Falwell, Robertson and their ilk. And we’re not all Republicans, either!

By Clem

May 22, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

Between finch and midori talking about Andy OF the street and moVing down people, it’s hard to tell whether the education is better at Cornell or the Dekalb Correctional Institute which I believe are their respective alma maters.

By Midori

May 22, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Ah, Professor Clem.

Tell us more, why don’t you.

By seeker

May 22, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Another BushBot sees the light. He’s a former top Reagan official and Wall Street Journal editor:

The Administration That Won’t Stop Lying

by Paul Craig Roberts

The war in Iraq has multiplied terrorism, not reduced it. The war has destroyed America’s reputation. The war has served as an excuse for concentrating unconstitutional powers in the executive and for removing the institutional protections against a police state. The war has already cost 20,000 American casualties (dead and wounded) and hundreds of billions of dollars, which have had to be borrowed from foreigners, and is projected to have a total cost in excess of one trillion dollars.

The Bush Regime’s war on terror has defeated truth and the constitutional protections of liberty in the United States. No conceivable number of Muslim terrorists could inflict comparable damage on America.

By Buy Danish

May 22, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Seeker,

I would venture to guess that the Left irrationally fears Christians far more than we irrationally fear Islamofascism.

finch,

Can you actually dispute the facts that are laid out in the David Horowitz article? I’d particularly like to hear a dispute of the Muslim Student Magazine that is described. Do you have a copy that shows that these statements are fallacious?

I’m all ears.

P.S. What does you dead grandmother have to do with it? That is a really weird analogy.

Andy,

Thanks for all the news updates. Midori and finch, like true-blue modern Democrats love to make judgements about what other people harmlessly do in their spare time, which they are completely free to ignore but desire to silence.

Midori,

Speaking of wild psychic guesses about dangerous drivers, I seem to recall a photo of you on a motorcycle.

Goldie,

What do you know about “what Jesus taught us”? I get the distinct impression that you missed those lessons and have never been a practicing Christian.

Christianity played a large part in the downfall of Communism, a result that I sense embitters you to this day.

By mrs.godzilla

May 22, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

i just don’t get the problem with the davinci code.

what’s more important - the concept of jesus christ being devine, or living by the standards he did?

if one has true faith, can a work of fiction change it?

so what if jesus married and had children? does that undermine his teachings? or does that make him an example that’s just a little too tough for some contempory men and women to follow?

it has never been about what you say you believe, unless you are a simpleton. it is about how you follow his words. how you live your life.

history has proven time and again that religon is about fighting wars. faith, spirituality and godliness is about how we treat each other.

at anytime during the march to calvary, dragging his cross on his shoulder, jesus could have smote (nuked) the bad guys. note that he did not. taking the bullet is braver than shooting it.

unless you are a buddhist or an athiest, you belong to a religon that has at some time taken up arms.could one truly be proud of that?

my granddad sent 20 bucks a month to the i.r.a. i wonder how many kids he killed without thinking.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

By Goldie May 22, 2006 11:07 AM Jesus would be horrified at what our religious leaders have done in His Name.

I seriously doubt if “our religious leaders” have killed 1,250,000 unborn babies every year since 1960.

Somethings the libs have a problem with, somethings they don’t.

By mrs.godzilla

May 22, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

8 to five andy please google castrati or inquisition.

check out pope pius and the nazis.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Clem: This could help explain things-

The very nature of RAGE and ANGER can interfere with a person’s ability or wish to get help. Rage and Anger saps energy, causes mental confusion and self-esteem and makes a person feel tired, worthless, helpless, and hopeless.

Feeling tired, Midori?

By mrs.godzilla

May 22, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

8 to five andy please google castrati or the inquisition. (not the mel brooks dance number)

check out pope pius and the nazis.

By Midori

May 22, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish said… * *Andy has posted some wonderful “Weekend updates” at MLs place.

Anyone who calls Andy stupid misunderestimates him.

Thanks for the links (and comments) Andy!

*5/21/2006 09:21:19 AM *

Stupid Cow.

M-o-o-o-o-o-o

By Midori

May 22, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

Midori,

Speaking of wild psychic guesses about dangerous drivers, I seem to recall a photo of you on a motorcycle.

You get siller, more boorish and ignorant with each posting.

That is absolutely the stupidest comeback I’ve encountered from you.

You’d do well to post nothing at all.

I don’t know what you are talking about, and I must wonder: Do you?

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

Danish— I do believe in what Jesus had to say, such as “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the Children of God.” I took what he said to heart at a very young age and it has guided me through my life… As opposed to those so-called religious “leaders” who don’t seem to remember what Jesus had to say, but use the Bible (and mostly just the Old Testament) and fear as a weapon against those of us who don’t necessarily believe in “an eye for an eye.” There’s an awful lot of superstition and myths written in the Bible, and some leaders simply want to call it “the Truth.” Jesus’s words are what I use as my guide. And I have no idea what you’re talking about regarding my feelings toward Communism — please divulge where I stated that I’m embittered about the downfall of that system of beliefs. I believe you’re just confused again and a little wacko about your brand of religion.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

mrs.godzilla: Jesus was without sin. It’s that simple. He took your sin upon Himself so that you may live.

You should be grateful for That, not full of stupid questions.

I could have saved “Meathead” the trouble of making this movie and millions of gullibles from parting with their money had they just asked me.

By finch

May 22, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I’m sure the “Death to Israel” fest at UC Irvine got about as much attention (and the same kind of attention) as a Klan rally would. Bemused dismissal. I’d keep an eye on these guys, but the he11 if I’m going to run around screaming in fear.

That’s the joy of Free Speech. It gives all Americans the right to show the world what absolute idiots they are.

Including Horowitz.

By Buy Danish

May 22, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

If you feel that it is superior to be an Athiest, then go for it. Using your parameters, the Civil War should never have been fought.

I prefer to remember these fighting words from The Battle Hymn of the Republic -

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,

With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:

As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free

And remember that while you disparage Christians who fight, you join the ranks of Stalin, Mao and other notorious “non-believers”.

By Midori

May 22, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

Clem,

not tired.

just amused.

right back atcha, Clem:

moron One entry found for moron.

Main Entry: mo·ron Pronunciation: ‘mor-“än Function: noun Etymology: irregular from Greek mOros foolish, stupid 1 usually offensive : a mildly mentally retarded person 2 : a very stupid person

By Midori

May 22, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

*And remember that while you disparage Christians who fight, you join the ranks of Stalin, Mao and other notorious “non-believers”. *

And we all know that Buy Danish is one huge believer, don’t we?

That’s why her believing rear end is going to Iraq, pronto!!!

By Clem

May 22, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Good for you midori, I can tell how well you’re doing just by observing that you are responding to me to a question asked by Andy.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

Romans 13:3- For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: “Rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil.” If you behave yourself, no king or government will mistreat you.

Maybe Saddam should have “behaved,” you reckon?

Unless one of you wants to tell us he wasn’t evil?

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

8 to 5— please disclose where it states in the Bible that Jesus said “life begins at conception.” I’m guessing some of us have forgotten that part of the Bible verses. Or is that just the doctrine of the Pope, taken as truth for all?

Also, while you’re at it, go ahead and tell us where Jesus said that marriage should only be between one man and one woman, and where he said that we should use war as a first choice in the place of diplomacy when an evil dictator needs to be removed.

By Midori

May 22, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

you are a world class hypocrite and a cheerleading douche.

why are YOU cheering Andy on for violating AJC rules?

while you were out cruising the highway for terrorists, is that when you saw me on my motorcycle? I thought I recognized you.

The hunched over senseless wonder, sporting a “W” sticker on each and every window.

By Midori

May 22, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

Thank you Clem.

Andy can just send me another email if he wants to talk to me.

In the meantime, I am responding directly to you, as you started this little back and forth. So, here’s another one for you Clem.

I found it right next to your picture:

imbecile One entry found for imbecile.

Main Entry: im·be·cile Pronunciation: ‘im-b&-s&l, -“sil Function: noun Etymology: French imbécile, noun, from adjective, weak, weak-minded, from Latin imbecillus 1 usually offensive : a person affected with moderate mental retardation 2 : FOOL, IDIOT - imbecile or im·be·cil·ic /”im-b&-‘si-lik/ adjective

Don’t start crap and try to misdirect.

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

8 to 5— great! Quoting the book of Romans to us, are ya? Well, we all know the Romans were a real bunch of “peace-makers” and loved all who came before them… great quote, 8 to 5 — having the Roman conquerors tell us about rulers doing “good works”!

By Rob

May 22, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

In the polls, I think a third option should be available. “Don’t give a damn” for those of us who think the DaVinci Code is about as likely to change world history as the various Christian churches are to become relevant to anybody with even a trace of free will and a brain more developed than ancient cave people.

By bobby

May 22, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Another thing I like about debating red staters is their hypocrisy and ignorance, which they wear proudly. I love it when one of these “Christians” finds it easy to call someone who’s opinion they disagree with “stupid”. Real Jesus-like, that one is. If there is a group of people more hate-filled or bigoted than certain so called “Southern Christians”, I haven’t seen them.

It’s like I said last week - Native Georgians always need someone to denigrate, to hate, to chastise, to lord over. It’s in their blood, their history, part of their heritage they are always crowing about.

Now let’s see who the first ones are to call me a name or criticize me just for the words I share, or not having the same opinion as them.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

Looks like the lgf has run into legal problems

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

Goldilocks: No, I’m sure our Creator gave us reproductive organs so we could lay around all day feeling good with our wee wees and the conception of life was just an after thought (SARCASM!!!!)

Any other stupid human tricks you’d like to perform for us?

By getalife

May 22, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Damn, Andy is wanking again.

He should be banned.

By Ricky

May 22, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

It is interesting to see people from both sides trying to use bible verses to justify their points. I am pretty sure that you can find one to parapharse or morph to fit whatever view you want, whether it be from the right or left side of the political spectrum. In fact that is just what Osama and his buddies do.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

I’m starting a “you’ve got to be kidding me” file:

By Goldie May 22, 2006 12:40 PM 8 to 5— great! Quoting the book of Romans to us, are ya? Well, we all know the Romans were a real bunch of “peace-makers” and loved all who came before them… great quote, 8 to 5 — having the Roman conquerors tell us about rulers doing “good works”!

By bobby May 22, 2006 12:41 PM If there is a group of people more hate-filled or bigoted than certain so called “Southern Christians”, I haven’t seen them.

Do the libs even have a clue? They really do believe evrything that comes out of the TV set.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Here is your friend

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

Gee, Ricky, that was real powerful: By Ricky May 22, 2006 12:52 PM It is interesting to see people from both sides trying to use bible verses to justify their points.

You learn that one from Mommy?

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

Oooops, my bad, never discipline without an explanation as to why:

By Goldie May 22, 2006 11:57 AM Danish— I do believe in what Jesus had to say, such as “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the Children of God.” As opposed to those so-called religious “leaders” who don’t seem to remember what Jesus had to say, but use the Bible (and mostly just the Old Testament) and fear as a weapon against those of us who don’t necessarily believe in “an eye for an eye.” There’s an awful lot of superstition and myths written in the Bible, and some leaders simply want to call it “the Truth.” Jesus’s words are what I use as my guide.

This is a false statement that the Bible only discusses feminism, feelgood “morality” and political correctness. To whit, I answered with Romans 13:3, which is specific to earthly rulers punishing evil, Ricky.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

Thanks, getalife, for that fine example of the never ending hypocrisy of the left. See BS news awarding Traitor Murtha a “profile in courage” award, an award in honor of a man who started a pre emptive war against Vietnam.

Beautiful.

By mrs.godzilla

May 22, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this

andy i can be moral for more than 8 to 5, i can do it 24/7. i had no problem receiving communion this morning, did you?

do you really belive we received god’s gift of reason to swallow all the nonsense spoon fed to us by pastors in poly blend suits driving blue buicks? could it possibly be we were given that gift to find the truth on our own? don’t you think we have a duty to our faith to ask hard and probing questions of the modern day pharisees?

and frankly, i don’t think we were given “wee-wees” exclusively for procreation. are you one of those folks with two kids who are two for two? pity. mr. g and i pretty regularly are grateful for that one.

also. meathead did not make the movie, opie did.

buy, danish, you are correct - the words of the song say “he died to make men holy and he died to make men free” but thats a lot different from “he died to make men holy and he died so some chicken hawk administration could bomb the snot out of them to make them free”

as for the civil war, since you can’t be posting from iraq your unwillingness to put your un-body armored fanny on the line is most surely in question.

coward.

By Harry Reid

May 22, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

An East Texas couple, both bonified rednecks, had 9 children. They went to the doctor to see about getting the husband “fixed”. The doctor asked them why, after nine children would they choose to do this. The husband replied that they had read in a recent article that one out of every ten children being born in North America was Mexican, and they didn’t want a Mexican baby because neither of them could speak Spanish.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Your welcome.

Yes, it was Opie, wrong as usual.

What is funny is the lgf has been attacked due to the hate they spew about Muslims.

Will they counter attack or cut and run? World Blogwar I, if you will.

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

8 to 5— you are one messed up puppy. I’m guessing that you’re probably laying around with your laptop all day and playing with your “wee-wee” as you call it. You obviously don’t have a real life, or else you wouldn’t be so ugly with your judgments of how others may live differently from you. But, then again, you’re quoting from the book of Romans to us, so I can see from where some of your problems arise.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

do you really belive we received god’s gift of reason to swallow all the nonsense spoon fed to us by pastors in poly blend suits driving blue buicks?

I’m pretty sure someone needs to get out into the real world. Where did we see this at ^^ on the Oxygen channel? Maybe Lifetime?

and frankly, i don’t think we were given “wee-wees” exclusively for procreation.

Correct, they aid in the digestion process also. I’m not allowed to quote from the Bible, but yes it does say “in between a man and a woman” and that “it” is a gift from God, etc, etc.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

Oh great we finally find something the libs have more expertise than I do:

Yes, it was Opie, wrong as usual.

Pointless in consequential Hollywood job descriptions.

I’m happy for y’all.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

goldilocks: Have you read the Book of Romans?

Or are you forcing your view of what the world should be on everyone else?

By Ricky

May 22, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

It is interesting to see people from both sides trying to use bible verses to justify their points. I am pretty sure that you can find one to parapharse or morph to fit whatever view you want, whether it be from the right or left side of the political spectrum. In fact that is just what Osama and his buddies do.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I see you are too scared to go fight them Muslims attacking the lgf.

Go figure.

By finch

May 22, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

Or are you forcing your view of what the world should be on everyone else?

That’s it! There’s sprayed coffee all over my keyboard! Incredible. The hypocrisy in that statement is jaw dropping.

I’m now waiting for Suck to say a “wanker” wrote that while he was busy giving moral support (at a distance) to lgf’s heroic defense against the Muslim horde.

Heh!

By getalife

May 22, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

finch,

Hell, they are donating money to countersue or counter attack, if you will.

Drawing pictures of “Big Mo” is too funny.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

finch: I’ve read the Book of Romans and I am faithfully quoting from it. Goldilocks, guaranteed 100%, is giving us the Lifetime Network version of the Book of Romans, which is akin to “forcing your view of what the world should be on everyone else.”

Try to pay attention. Keep your eye on the ball.

getalife: I’ve visited lgf maybe once, why would I care?

By mrs.godzilla

May 22, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

andy i can be moral for more than 8 to 5, i can do it 24/7. i had no problem receiving communion this morning, did you?

do you really belive we received god’s gift of reason to swallow all the nonsense spoon fed to us by pastors in poly blend suits driving blue buicks? could it possibly be we were given that gift to find the truth on our own? don’t you think we have a duty to our faith to ask hard and probing questions of the modern day pharisees?

and frankly, i don’t think we were given “wee-wees” exclusively for procreation. are you one of those folks with two kids who are two for two? pity. mr. g and i pretty regularly are grateful for that one.

also. meathead did not make the movie, opie did.

buy, danish, you are correct - the words of the song say “he died to make men holy and he died to make men free” but thats a lot different from “he died to make men holy and he died so some chicken hawk administration could bomb the snot out of them to make them free”

as for the civil war, since you can’t be posting from iraq your unwillingness to put your un-body armored fanny on the line is most surely in question.

coward.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

Andy,

They need your help and money thats why.

Are you just all talk and when Muslims attack, you cut and run?

By finch

May 22, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this

Staying the course is really easy when you’re not going anywhere.

Associated Press Update 3: Bush Says Progress in Iraq ‘Incremental’

“More than three years after the Iraq invasion, President Bush acknowledged to war-weary Americans Monday that the situation is improving only gradually and urged patience with ‘more days of challenge and loss.’”

Meanwhile, will the last Iraqi civilian leaving the anarchy please turn out the lights?

Middle class leaving Iraq (Christian Science Monitor)

Since destruction of Samarra shrine, many Iraqis are desperate to leave the country.

Islamophobics beware! These seemingly middle class Arabs are all elements of sleeper cells being planted in the West. Their professed goals of finding peace and security are mere shams disguising a plot to destroy Western civilization!!

/sarcasm off

By Cindy

May 22, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this

Andy has recently proven his true character and I now know all he spits up is bile. He can argue his fool head off, but when I see what he is in favor of, I will know it is not good. What kind of person would besmirch, mock and insult a man who was in war? Regardless of his compentency or his views such a man deserves far more respect than to be labeled “traitor”.

Andy, I know you cannot be a true American patriot, but just a bungle so buried in conservative politics that you have no feel or feelings for this great country.

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

Did any of you happen to read the letter written to Dr. Laura Schlesinger a few years ago regarding her opinion that our laws should be based on what’s written in the Old Testament? It was a great letter, and it asked Dr. Laura such questions as:

“I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?”

“I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?”

“Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Leviticus 19:27. How should they die?”

Just a few questions to ask ourselves if we plan on basing our laws on the books of the Bible.

By JT

May 22, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

Goldie, That letter has been posted here before. It’s a rerun. It was stupid then and it’s stupid now. Why in the world would you repost something that was seen as stupid the first time?

By getalife

May 22, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this

If you are a veteran, your personal info. has been stolen.

It seems that an analyst had this data at home and it was stolen.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

May 22, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

Cindy: I think maggoty old man Murtha is probably insane, that is why I am being gentle with his Un American a-ss. I don’t owe you the same courtesy; so let me offer you the chance to retract your belief that Iraq was better under Saddam’s rule, same as what that wormy grandstanding politician said, giving aid and comfort to our enemies with his polluted mouth.

Any other questions?

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this

You’re right, JT — many books in the Bible express superstitions and prejudices, or, to explain it better in your words “it’s stupid.” So why would we want to base our laws these days on what’s written in the Bible?

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

Goldie, homosexuality is immoral, it is a sin and is not a valid alternative lifestyle. They will be dealth with accordingly when the time comes unless they repent for their sins. Check out the southern baptist convention’s position statement on sexuality if you’re that clueless…

By Midori

May 22, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this

Cindy: I think maggoty old man Murtha is probably insane, that is why I am being gentle with his Un American a-ss

You’re quite familiar with maggots and insanity, aren’t you.

Well, your brain is, anyway.

When the h!ll are you going to do us a favor and sign up? Put your money where your big mouth is? Show Murtha and the rest of us what a big “man warrior” your are.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

May 22, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this

Goldie: Homosexuality is immoral, is not a valid alternative lifestyle, and they will be dealth with accordingly when the time comes. We should spend no time or effort accomodating their sickness, nor should we protect their rights. Read the Southern Baptist Convention’s position statement on sexuality if you’re that clueless. It’s not terribly complicated, even for a pinko to understand.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

May 22, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this

Midori: the armed forces are generally for those of us without the means to do anything else, as much as I respect their service. Why would I enlist when I am such a economic force here at home? I spend money and create jobs so someone else can fight our wars.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

Read the Southern Baptist Convention’s position

That explains all we need to know about Andy.

I have a question:

It is getting close to closing time, so how many windows are you planning to have open?

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

I apologize for 3:57 and 4:01, obviously they are not mine. It’s pretty shameful that the AJC allows the degradation of homosexuals, using the name of other blog participants, to continue like this, I guess they consider their “visitor’s agreement” to be some sick joke.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

Damn, I could not tell the difference. You should call Lea.

I got ten open.

By Buy Danish

May 22, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

as for the civil war, since you can’t be posting from iraq your unwillingness to put your un-body armored fanny on the line is most surely in question.

coward.

Godzilla Gorilla,

We have a fine military made up of young volunteers. My duty is here at home with my son, which makes me a responsible parent, not a coward.

By finch

May 22, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this

That faker’s parroting does hit a little too close to home, doesn’t it, Suck? After all, your gay-baiting is one of your hallmarks.

getalife, I’ll bet you 3 mangoes that Suck keeps 3 windows open. You on?

I’m relieved that he’ll be sacrificing another evening cutting and pasting his drivel. Heaven knows we don’t want him outside, and nobody reads his rants anyway….

By N-GA

May 22, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

Hey bed wetter….it is yout OPINION that homosexuality is immoral. It is MY opinion that YOU are immoral.

Scientists a whole lot smarter than you have stated repeatedly that genetics are the cause of most homosexuality. Just because the bible says something is bad/wrong/sinful doesn’t make it so. IMO slavery and wife-beating are sinful, but the bible seems to think they are okay. Get a grip….Christianity is not the only value set.

By Liberal Texas Democrat

May 22, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

“By getalife May 22, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this If you are a veteran, your personal info. has been stolen.”

The electronic data related to everyone discharged from the military since 1975. Whew, that one missed me, but it points to a serious problem that should very well prompt those who’ve proclaimed “they’ve nothing to hide” when it comes to records of when and what number they call. Somewhere along the line an equally bungling pencil pusher at NSA, not authorized to do so, may very well decide it’s time to make a profit with your information.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

Look at wanker N-GA arguing with himself. What a fool.

See him pleading for that golden shower?

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

Look at wanker N-GA arguing with himself. What a fool.

See him pleading for that golden shower?

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

getalife: Why 10? Look back at all your posts today and tell me where anything was different? You can be summed up in one post, whiny.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

finch,

Not taking that bet but keep as many open as possible so we can post to his spam.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

By finch May 22, 2006 04:22 PM Heaven knows we don’t want him outside, and nobody reads his rants anyway….

By 8 To 5 Andy May 22, 2006 08:14 AM Don’t it figure, Queen Pinko’s answer to the immigration debate is to hammer on big business, bloodsport of the socialists:

By finch May 22, 2006 09:16 AM Don’t it figure, Queen Pinko’s answer to the immigration debate is to hammer on big business, bloodsport of the socialists

First thing every morning finch reads my posts, he loves me! Isn’t it so cute, he’s in denial. Aaawwwhhh.

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this

8 to 5— Check out the southern baptist convention’s position statement on sexuality if you’re that clueless…

OMG, the Southern Baptist Convention — why didn’t I guess that was your problem all along? Where they preach “if it’s written in the Old Testament, it must be the Truth.” I was raised in the Baptist Church, so don’t think that I’m unaware of what they’re all about, and you’re probably not gonna be able to out-Bible me if you try… what they’re preaching these days is irrelevant and wrong, because they’re not preaching the words that Jesus spoke anymore — it’s all Old Testament stuff, full of myths and hell-fire damnation.

Ugh — I’ve been slimed!

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

By the way, that was pretty good reading wanker N-GA’s mind, knowing when he was going to come in here and name jack. The “AJC Hates” threw his neanderthal moron a-ss for a loop. He was too mentally crippled to recover, so he double posted with the right name.

What a tosser.

Judging from the posts using my name the last few nights, wanker N-GA always shows up late and he really must hate homosexuals. Why is he calling me one?

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

Goldie: Maybe someday you’ll get lucky and an adult will sit you down and explain that a liberal posted this:

Check out the southern baptist convention’s position statement on sexuality if you’re that clueless…

Aren’t you proud to be one?

By Buy Danish

May 22, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

finch,

Gay marriage-baiting is okay I guess? Because that is where much of this anti-Christian sentiment comes from.

By finch

May 22, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

Let me rephrase that, Suck. Nobody reads your after-hours posts, dropped here like so much waste when no one else can respond.

I mean.. what’s the point?

But I’m sure glad to see you read mine and can even track them down. You like me! You really like me!

By Goldie

May 22, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

8 to 5— I am a proud Liberal, and it still makes sense that you’d be preaching about the Southern Baptist Convention and quoting from the book of Romans. It explains so much about what your real problem is.

By finch

May 22, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Excuse me? Gay marriage-baiting?? Oh, you mean all the venom from so called Christians denouncing gay relationships as a threat to civilization??

Yeah. That must be it.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 22, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

finch: At least I don’t lie about reading your posts like you do mine. I’ll freely admit that I view you as a full blown wanker, capable of spreading all kinds of misinformation about me and Conservatism, so I briefly scan your BS for relevancy and then easily contradict the falsifications that you offer.

Now you, on the other hand, lie about reading mine, which is a sure sign of some obsession, like a secret love you are hiding from your wife and family. I hope that it is not tearing apart your domestic situation or anything like that.

Come on, fess up.

By Buy Danish

May 22, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

I just realized that one of my posts didn’t post. I’ll try to recall the message…

Midori,

I enjoy seeing you get more and more apoplectic everyday. Your fury over the fact that Andy beat you to it and posted some news over the weekend is hilarious. Even funnier is your insistence that I should be outraged over this egregious lapse of the AJC blog rules. Ho hum.

It’s not as if he spent the weekend dissing you, Midori. He posted some op ed pieces. I enjoyed reading them. BFD.

And as you are the jacker’s best friend, your desperate protests fall on deaf ears with me, as does your intellectually empty name-calling.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Cut the crap. Everyone knows you are the wanker.

Wanker.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this

LONDON (May 22) - President Bush has alienated Muslims around the world by using absolutist Christian rhetoric to discuss foreign policy issues, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright says.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this

Here is your friend again Andy:

WASHINGTON (May 22) - The first Vietnam veteran elected to Congress, Rep. John Murtha took pride in politicking quietly, behind the scenes, with Republicans and fellow Democrats alike. Washington has become more deeply partisan since Murtha was swept into office more than 30 years ago, and so has Murtha - in a very public way

This is fun.

By getalife

May 22, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

This is very interesting. Documents about AT$T wiretaps:

Why We Published the AT&T Docs

By mrs.godzilla

May 22, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish are you suggesting that because over 150,000 men and women volunteered for military service and are in the gulf region they are irreponsible parents? you’re some piece of work.

Coward.

sorry for the double posts earlier.

contrary to 8 to 5 andy’s suggestion, right now i am nowhere near lifetime television. and based on what i’m seeing out my window there appears to be more smog than oxygen in the gray sunrise.

in fact where i am it is nearly 6 a.m., the humidity has made sleeping difficult and the internet access is rather unreliable. that not withstanding, here in the real world people are finally waking up to the fact that the most recent evolutionary step an ever decreasing segment of the population has not yet made is overcoming intolerance based on religion.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

Students and faculty attending New York’s New School commencement ceremony stood last weekend with their backs facing Senator John McCain and hissed and booed as the senator from Arizona encouraged a revival of civil discourse in our national affairs. But who can blame them? They are enlightened college graduates from “a legendary, progressive university,” after all. What do they have to learn from some old geezer who hung upside down but his elbows in a tiger cage for half a decade serving the United States? What does he know about the relative horrors and justness of war?

Therein lies exhibit, oh I don’t know, 4,972 of the bizarre upside-down-ness of our national politics. George W. Bush and the Republicans are said by their detractors to be dividers, not uniters. And yet it is the fringe left (also known as mainstream Democrats) who can’t stop fighting with everyone.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

Let’s hear what Richard Cohen, Washington Post, has to say about Iraq under Saddam’s rule:

It was a place of torture. It was a place of massacre. It was a place of unspeakable terror. It was a place where children were killed. It was a place where women were raped. It was a place — just to cite what happened to the Fayli Kurds, a small ethnic group from near the Iran border — where families were rousted from their homes, the men separated from the women (and never seen again), the women raped and abused and sometimes forced at gunpoint across the frontier into Iran. Some died of exposure in the mountains and some died of fatigue and some were killed in the crossfire of Iraqi and Iranian troops then fighting their war in the 1980s. So far, none of this has been mentioned at the trial.

For many who supported going to war in Iraq, the nature of the regime was important, even paramount (—-oh, finchie, lookie here). It is disappointing that this no longer gets mentioned. I suppose the handwriting was on the wall when Michael Moore failed to mention Saddam’s crimes at all in his movie “Fahrenheit 9/11.” Years from now, someone coming across the film could conclude that the U.S. picked on the Middle Eastern version of Switzerland. Now, all the weight is on one side of the moral scale.

Pardon me for raising the question without answering it. I do so only to discomfort, if I can, some of the people who are so certain of their moral righteousness when it comes to the Iraq War. I want to know why the crimes of Saddam Hussein never figure into their thinking and why it was morally wrong — not merely unwise — to topple him.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

The Associated Press reports that today, “Murtha is to be awarded the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award in Boston for his bold pronouncement that U.S. troops should be pulled out of Iraq.” This hardly seems in keeping with JFK’s pronouncement in his Inaugural Address: Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this

Well, what do you know, the liberals finally found “presumption of innocence” and the “right to trial” in the Constitution, even though this dude was caught on tape:

William Jefferson, Democrat, Louisiana, who is under investigation for alleged bribery, declined to talk about the videotape or about allegations in an affidavit the FBI used to justify a warrant to search his office . “I will simply say to you there is two sides to this story, and we’ll have a chance in the right forum to express our side of this,” he said.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:08 AM | Link to this

The pinkos can’t even bring themselves to say “no price gouging.” And hide the article on page 5 of the business section:

Gas price probe blames marketplace

Nor can they come up with a very good headline.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

University of California at Berkeley engineering professor Tad Patzek published a paper last year saying it takes six units of energy in corn farming, distillation, and transportation to yield one unit of energy produced by ethanol in an automobile. Ethanol, for example, can’t be transported via pipeline — it has to be carried from distillation plants via truck and railroad, which creates additional energy costs.

There may be cheaper forms of ethanol than domestically produced corn alcohol, which already receives a 51-cents-a-gallon federal subsidy. But it would have to be imported, and the United States imposes a 54-cents-a-gallon tariff on imported ethanol, even though the ethanol yield from Brazilian cane sugar and other forms of sugar is significantly higher than the yield from U.S. corn production.

The bottom line, as Jerry Taylor, an energy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute recently noted in the Arizona Republic, is that the price of June 6 deliveries of pure ethanol is about $2.67 per gallon, while the wholesale price of pure unleaded gasoline on that date is around $2.09 per gallon.

By seeker

May 23, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this

The political rift in Iraq widens according to the Washington Times:

*BAGHDAD — Two prominent Sunni hard-liners laid out conditions yesterday for an end to Iraq’s insurgency, including a clear date for the withdrawal of U.S. and British troops and a restoration of the old Iraqi army. But they warned of greater conflict if Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s choice for defense minister was not satisfactory to disaffected Sunnis. *

There’s no brewing civil war in Iraq. And the moon is made of green cheese.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this

In a recent federal decision that got surprisingly little press, even from conservative talk radio, California’s 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled it’s OK to put public-school kids through Muslim role-playing exercises, including:

Reciting aloud Muslim prayers that begin with “In the name of allah, most gracious, most merciful … .”

But a federal judge appointed by President Clinton told them in so many words to get over it, that the state was merely teaching kids about another “culture.”

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:11 AM | Link to this

More aliens seek driver’s licenses in Maryland

Since March, the average weekly number of driver’s license applications by immigrants and illegal aliens has nearly doubled in Maryland, where legal residency is not required of applicants, according to the state Motor Vehicle Administration (MVA).

Here’s one for the “Big Business illegal hiring mob,” the land of Swimmer Kennedy accommodates illegals. I guess they need to drive to the welfare office.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this

Indeed, the health care blog drugwonks.com posts two stories Medicare chief Mark McClellan tells about his outreach tour that should make Democrats shudder and Republicans feel good about what the drug benefit has done. Dr. McClellan said that many times seniors came up to him in tears “because they can finally afford the medicines they need.” The other speaks to the fact that seniors see the benefit as a responsibility, not an entitlement. After hearing him speak, a woman came up to Dr. McClellan and told him she was going to enroll even though she wasn’t currently taking any prescription drugs because, “You never know what’s going to happen when you get older.” Dr. McClellan asked, “How old are you now?” Her reply, “102.”

That goes for politics too. Opinion polls in support of the benefit are off the chart. And apparently Democratic strategists are telling candidates to cool their anti-benefit rhetoric. Republican congressmen are planning to run on the issue, and Democratic Party congressional challengers are getting nervous about their aggressive negative stand fed to them to by their party’s spinmeisters. And we wouldn’t be surprised if Democratic Party challengers will have wished they had not bought into their party’s propaganda on this point.

Time for the liberals to change colors, again.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this

But that isn’t the case. Fitzgerald himself has released materials that indicated that at the very least Rove, too, made an effort to *dissuade reporters from writing about the Wilson trip to Niger and the fact that Wilson’s wife played a central role in arranging it.*

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

Iraqis can participate in three historic elections, pass the most liberal constitution in the Arab world, and form a unity government despite terrorist attacks and provocations. Yet for some critics of the president, these are minor matters. Like swallows to Capistrano, they keep returning to the same allegations—the president misled the country in order to justify the Iraq war; his administration pressured intelligence agencies to bias their judgments; Saddam Hussein turned out to be no threat since he didn’t possess weapons of mass destruction; and helping democracy take root in the Middle East was a postwar rationalization. The problem with these charges is that they are false and can be shown to be so—and yet people continue to believe, and spread, them. Let me examine each in turn:

The Wall Street Journal does in the liberals, again.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

So what is the reality about global warming and its impact on the world? A new study released this week by the National Center for Policy Analysis, “Climate Science: Climate Change and Its Impacts” (www.ncpa.org/pub/st/st285) looks at a wide variety of climate matters, from global warming and hurricanes to rain and drought, sea levels, arctic temperatures and solar radiation. It concludes that “the science does not support claims of drastic increases in global temperatures over the 21rst century, nor does it support claims of human influence on weather events and other secondary effects of climate change.”

Regarding Arctic temperature changes, the Study found the coastal stations in Greenland had actually experienced a cooling trend: The “average summer air temperatures at the summit of the Greenland Ice Sheet, have decreased at the rate of 4 degrees F per decade since measurements began in 1987.” Add in Russian and Alaskan temperature data and “Arctic air temperatures were warmest in the 1930s and near the coolest for the period of recorded observations (since at least 1920) in the late 1980s.”

The Wall Street Journal does in the liberals, again.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:15 AM | Link to this

Do you remember the dramatic TV footage of National Guard helicopters landing at the Superdome as soon as Katrina passed, dropping off tens of thousands saved from certain death? The corpsmen running with stretchers, in an echo of MASH, carrying the survivors to ambulances and the medical center? About how the operation, which also included the Coast Guard, regular military units, and local first responders, continued for more than a week?*

Me neither. Except that it did happen, and got at best an occasional, parenthetical mention in the national media. The National Guard had its headquarters for Katrina, not just a few peacekeeping troops, in what the media portrayed as the pit of Hell.

Jack Harrison, a spokesman for the National Guard Bureau in Arlington, Virginia, cited “10,244 sorties flown, 88,181 passengers moved, 18,834 cargo tons hauled, 17,411 saves” by air. Unlike the politicians, they had a working chain of command that commandeered more relief aid from other Guard units outside the state. From day one.

Makes you wonder who’s side the media is on.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

Here is a list of terms liberals apply to virtually every idea or action with which they differ:

Racist, Sexist, Homophobic, Islamophobic, Imperialist, Bigoted, Intolerant

And here is the list of one-word descriptions of what liberals are for:

Peace, Fairness, Tolerance, The poor, The disenfranchised, The environment

These two lists serve contemporary liberals in at least three ways.

First, they attack the motives of non-liberals and thereby morally dismiss the non-liberal person.

Second, these words make it easy to be a liberal — essentially all one needs to do is to memorize this brief list and apply the right term to any idea or policy. That is one reason young people are more likely to be liberal — they have not had the time or inclination to think issues through, but they know they oppose racism, imperialism and bigotry, and that they are for peace, tolerance and the environment.

Third, they make the liberal feel good about himself — by opposing conservative ideas and policies, he is automatically opposing racism, bigotry, imperialism, etc.

But American society is paying a steep price. Every car that has a bumper sticker declaring “War is not the answer” powerfully testifies to the intellectual decline of the well educated and to the devolution of “liberal thought” into an oxymoron.

By seeker

May 23, 2006 08:33 AM | Link to this

Peter Whener’s WSJ fluff piece about “winning” the Iraq war is itself revisionist. Consider the source:

Mr. Wehner is deputy assistant to the president and director of the White House’s Office of Strategic Initiatives.

Translation: professional liar.

He’s probably still smarting over letting Osama bin Laden get away.

By seeker

May 23, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this

The Wall Street Journal is continuing to panic over the November elections. Panic! Panic!

It isn’t easy leading your party to victory when a lot of people aren’t eager to follow. With Mr. Bush’s job-approval ratings skidding as low as 30% in national polls, more Republican candidates face risks in associating closely with him. That is forcing the White House and Republican advisers to improvise a strategy for success.

The WSJ is probably hoping that its desperate prose will rally the troops (middle and working class Americans) who voted GOP in 2004. Unfortunately for Republicans, the troops are too disgusted with the GOP to consider its candidates. And they don’t read the WSJ anyway.

By seeker

May 23, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

Another GOP rat deserts a sinking ship:

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The patriarch of US conservatives has urged his followers to halt their financial support of the Republican Party and start an independent movement, signaling a major political shift that could result in heavy losses for the US ruling party in upcoming elections.

When you’re a Bush Republican, reality sucks. It just plain sucks.

By Brian Curtis

May 23, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this

But remember: Reality has a well-known liberal bias!

By Ricky

May 23, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this

One thing being overlooked in the Nov elections is that it is going to come down to local politics. Bush won’t help, but he alone will not lose many races. A lot will come down the individuals running in the races. Seeker, why do assume he is a liar? Or are you one of those that thinks that anyone that disagrees with you is wrong. Is Ralph Peters who has been critical of the war wrong when he says that we are winning the war in Iraq? You can’t say everyone on the other side of the arguement is wrong just because.

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

A brilliant interview with Bruce Bawer, the “gay Liberal”* author of “While Europe Slept”.

European social democracy was rigid, doctrinaire, controlling. Social democrats ran politics, the media, and the academy, and they worked together to propagandize against their system’s #1 competition in the world – namely, American-style liberal democracy. The anti-Americanism I encountered every single day in the European media floored me.

*This is the hook to get you Libs interested

By Steve SC

May 23, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this

Almost 2000 people here just across the line in SC are going to lose their jobs because Avondale Mills is shutting down its operations. I can hardly wait until the regional edition of the WSJ explains to them how great the economy is doing, and why the President’s borrow-and-spend policies have made this all possible.

By Chris

May 23, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis, you are right everything from the right is lies and everything from the left is the truth. Wow that makes things easy doesn’t it. Seeker, it seems you are taking pleasure in conservatives speaking out against Bush. Not really suprising when Bush has acted like a big government liberal when it comes to spending. Its funny because when the Dem party is accussed of splintering, you say oh well we are nuanced and welcome multiple opinions, but when the conservatives have a disagreement, it means the party is coming to a crashing halt. What a joke. Like I said earlier it much make life easy to think you are always right and everyone else is always wrong.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

Here’s your boy again, getalife:

Rather higher is “disgraceful.” We don’t mean Murtha’s criticisms of the war; we disagree with those criticisms, but he is welcome to make them. What he should not be welcome to do is slander American soldiers—as in his recent declaration that U.S. Marines have murdered Iraqi civilians “in cold blood.” This was a reference to accusations that Marines shot 15 Iraqis in the town of Haditha last November. The military’s investigation of those claims isn’t finished yet, but Murtha apparently can’t wait for all the facts to emerge before damning the accused. In doing so, he inflames international opinion against the United States and makes it more difficult not only to fulfill our mission in Iraq, but to conduct military operations anywhere in the world. Even if the allegations against the Marines are true, Murtha’s rhetoric is imbalanced: He declines to emphasize that the vast majority of soldiers perform their duties honorably and that those who break the rules are severely punished, choosing instead to cite the actions of a few sadists as though they were representative of the military.

You liberals can have him.

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

More from Bruce Bawer:

I had been in many ways a critic of America, but in Europe I increasingly came to appreciate its virtues – and repeatedly found myself in social situations where I was obliged to defend it against people who regurgitated inane anti-American clichés that they’d been fed since infancy.

America encourages immigrants to go to work, learn the language, and become full members of society; Europe encourages immigrants to live apart and maintain their cultures and lifestyles and values without adjusting in the slightest to their new environment. This is called multiculturalism. And it’s been a disaster.

To be continued…

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

Can America be far behind? This is the country where top Dem Harry Reid calls English “racist”.

To criticize any aspect of immigrant communities or immigration policies is to risk being called a racist. In Norway, there’s been a rash of cold-blooded murders by rejected asylum seekers, who, after being rejected, incredible as it sounds, are simply allowed to roam free in the streets of Oslo. Recently, one of them walked into the downtown Oslo office of somebody I knew, a wonderful doctor, and stabbed him to death with a huge knife he’d brought with him. On the day it happened, a mutual friend of ours, who was despondent and in shock, said, “Something needs to be done about these asylum seekers.” And as soon as the words were out of his mouth, he added, “Oh, I shouldn’t say that, it sounds racist.”

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this

Why I am so not impressed with “pacifism”:

Americans and Europeans both learned a lesson from World War II – but we learned different lessons. America learned that evil should never be appeased. If Britain and France had not caved in to Hitler at Munich, the war and the Holocaust might never have happened. Europeans, however, have been taught that the lesson of WWII is the evil of war, pure and simple. War should be avoided at all costs. Dialogue is always better than armed conflict. This mentality feeds anti-Americanism – instead of admiring America’s willingness to defend its freedoms in war, which after all is what made possible the liberation of Western Europe from the Nazis – duh! – Europeans see Americans as people who simply love to make war. We’re primitive, bloodthirsty warmongers. They see themselves, by contrast, as the preachers and guardians of a new, more noble and sophisticated era of peace. And they’ll make any compromise in order to preserve that peace

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this

Danger. Danger.

European Muslim leaders know this. And they’ve manipulated it brilliantly. European politicians have become classic dhimmis, giving in to Muslim demands and being careful to avoid giving any offense whatsoever in order to maintain social harmony. The result, of course, is that Muslim leaders just get more and more demanding, and more and more easily offended.

Apropos to why I call myself “Buy Danish” -

Of all the heads of government in Europe, the only real exception to this rule is Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the prime minister of Denmark, who in response to the uproar over the Muhammed cartoons stood up valiantly for freedom of speech. In Norway, by contrast, the editor of the first publication to reprint the cartoons ended up being pressured by the Norwegian government to apologize, which he did, abjectly, at a press conference in a government office building in the presence of the largest group of imams ever brought together in Norway. It was a deeply disturbing episode. But it came and went, and afterwards everybody seemed eager to sweep it under the rug, to pretend that it hadn’t happened or that it wasn’t really as weird and disturbing and disgusting as it was.

I hope you open-minded Libs read all of this, despite it being from the website of David Horowitz, who Finch just yesterday dismissed as an “idiot”.

By RW-(the original)

May 23, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this

People like Steve SC that complain about textile jobs going away might want to study a little history and see how those jobs made it into the south to begin with.

Here’s the readers digest version. All these jobs were in the northeast until someone realized you could craft an equally good product at a lesser cost, thereby giving the consumer a better deal, by moving those jobs south. This begs the question, did the northeast just dry up and go away or did they better themselves?

Oddly most of the people that complain the loudest about these things call themselves “progressives”, why are they so against progress?

By Jesus

May 23, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By getalife

May 23, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

Lets see, we got Andy posting from hos favorite wingnut opinion site, NRO.

BD from frontpagemag.com, and RW from Readers Digest.

Now some actual news

By getalife

May 23, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this

Andy,

I know this is hard but try using your brain on this one.

Why would Murtha say that about the troops he is trying to save?

Maybe he is giving them an excuse for what happened so they will not go to jail?

By Ricky

May 23, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

getalife, that is not news. That is an opinion piece. You might notice the difference. The Iraqi gov’t has accomplished what the anti-war group has said they never could. They have held multiple elections without significant problems. They have formed a government. Things are getting better. Yes things are happening slowly, but progress is being made. To say nothing good is happening is as bad as saying nothing bad is happening.

By getalife

May 23, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

Check out the brain on Ricky. Of course, it is an opinion and not actual news. Thank you for noticing Ricky.

Here is a nice love story for the wingnuts

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

getalife: Some lawyer you and filthy mouth Murtha would make, “helping” your client by slandering him in public.

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

Infamous quotes from Mrs. Godzilla:

Buy Danish are you suggesting that because over 150,000 men and women volunteered for military service and are in the gulf region they are irreponsible parents? you’re some piece of work.

Coward.

in fact where i am it is nearly 6 a.m… there in the real world people are finally waking up to the fact that the most recent evolutionary step an ever decreasing segment of the population has not yet made is overcoming intolerance based on religion.

Ah yes, great words from Godzilla.

Godawful,

The “real world” you speak of is apparently on an entirely different time zone, so it is clearly not America.

Why are you so insistent that I join the troops in Iraq? Didn’t you (very inelegantly) state that we were “knocking the snot out” of the Iraqi people? And what about Afghanistan? Did we intentionally “knock the snot out” of them too?

If I understand you correctly, in your vision of the perfect world, choice is not an option. In your world your every demand must be met, or risk being called names like “coward” or “chickehawk”.

In your world we do not have a volunteer army, but conscipt all supporters of our national defense.

In your world children should be left behind by their mothers, not so we can fight to defend America, but so we can suffer and pay penance for the our dastardly intrusions into hell, crafted by “men” like Saddam Hussein.

I hope you get a chance to read this. You have all the qualifications to be a perfect European Dhimmi, err, “head of state”.

By finch

May 23, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

RW,

Nice summation of why textile jobs first came to the South and are now leaving the South. Thomas Friedman is right. The World Is Flat. Fighting economic globalization is like fighting the tide.

Buy Danish,

Horowitz is still an idiot, but even idiots, like broken watches, can be right once in awhile. Or at least his propaganda rag can be. That “gay liberal” Bruce Bawer sagely describes the pitfalls of “multiculturalism”, but in my experience, his claim that Europe is deeply anti-American is exaggerated. In my dozens of visits, I’ve found that once you get outside London, Paris or Rome, people admire and respect the US. Among other things, they still remember WWII.

Unlike Europe, most legal immigrants to the US still strive for cultural assimilation. Visit the Detroit area, home to more than a million Arabs, and you’ll see what I mean. We don’t need an English only Constitutional amendment, but if one passes, I won’t complain, except about the time wasted debating it in lieu of far more serious issues. The bottom line is that the current wave of legal immigrants is eager to adopt the languages and customs of their adopted country, just as immigrants before them (your ancestors, my ancestors) did.

getalife,

Isn’t it amazing how Suck repeatedly tries to turn silk purses into sow’s ears? And fails every time?

Murtha is a genuine American hero.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this

I fully understand why you liberals don’t like National Review:

What a bargain: At a cost of a mere $100,000 or so, a northeastern college can take your child and transform him into a delicate flower incapable of handling opinions at odds with his own. It can close his mind and vacuum-seal it against opposing views. And it can, as a bonus, perhaps make him rude and incorrigible.

These have been the benefits of liberal education on display this commencement season, as graduating students have risen up against the affront of having to listen to the U.S. secretary of State or a distinguished war hero for a half-hour or so. Students complain that Condoleezza Rice and Sen. John McCain don’t represent them. But since when has it been a requirement that speakers on campus be representative of—in the sense of totally agreeing with—student views? If there were such a requirement, few commencement addresses would ever be given by anyone to the right of filmmaker Michael Moore.

They got you pegged.

By Ricky

May 23, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

getalife, you were the one that linked it as “actual news.” It really doesn’t help the conversation to refer to all conservatives as wingnuts, just as it doesn’t help to refer to all democrats as liberals.

By getalife

May 23, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this

BD,

I was posting at the lgf when this story posted

It is one of the funniest threads I have ever read.

Ricky,

I find the minority of W’s supporters to be wingnuts. Sorry if this offends you. Look at the opinions they post and they are wingnut opinions. Just call them like I see them.

BTW, I wish the Iraqis would get their s-hit together so our troops can get out of there.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

I fully understand why you liberals don’t like National Review:

In Iraq, civil society, nearly comatose under Saddam Hussein, is today alive and full of vitality. Newspapers and television and magazines are full of diversity and energy, political parties multiply, private associations are functioning by the thousands, most of the country is more secure than some American cities. Iraqi exiles from around the world, far from fleeing, are coming back in droves.

In Paris, France, more cars may have been set on fire this past year than car bombings in Baghdad. In the decade of the Algerian war some time ago there may have been more bombings in France per week than there are now in Iraq. A tiny band of extremists, led by a crafty but crazed Jordanian, are still capable of impressive resourcefulness and ruthless killing, especially within camera reach of the hotels in Baghdad, where the American press is bunkered down. But they represent only a small fringe of Iraqi voters—and of course they loathe democracy with all their writhing intestines.

Despite the depredations, beheadings, and homicide bombings aimed at American public opinion, and especially elite opinion, President Bush has bravely kept his focus on eliminating one by one the dwindling band of terrorists, on the reconstruction of Iraqi civil society, and on the ability of Iraqi parties to broker and bargain and argue themselves into consensus in a political manner.

They’ve got Iraq pegged.

By RW-(the original)

May 23, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

getalife,

I hardly think Mothra is helping out the troops by labeling them as cold-blooded murderers.

Up ^ ^ ^ there someone said you should never say a bad word about a man that served in combat. If that’s the case, what do you guys think of John O’Neil?

By Mission Accomplished

May 23, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

Thats great news Andy! This means all the troops will be home in a month! Thank god this tragedy is over. No more reports of our soldiers dead or injured.

Its going to be nice having the troops back home. 1 billion dollars a day will also be saved. Happy days are truly here again!

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!

By finch

May 23, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

This one’s for you, Suck…

What happens when you believe a notoriously unreliable conservative wanker “news” site?

You get burned.

Drudge Falsely Smears Gore

Matt Drudge is looking for any excuse to smear Al Gore and his new movie, An Inconvenient Truth. He’s been running this story, unsourced, all day:

Burn: Gore & entourage took 5 cars to travel the 500 yards from hotel to screening of global warming pic in Cannes…

ThinkProgress contacted Gore’s representatives, who unequivocally confirmed that Al Gore and his associates walked from the Majestic Hotel to the screening at Cannes. Further, Paramount has committed to making the entire tour promoting the film carbon neutral.

UPDATE: At 3:38 PM EST, about an hour after this post, Drudge yanked the smear on Gore from his site.

Was there are correction?

Of course not! Never let the facts get in the way of slimy lies passed off as news!

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

By finch May 23, 2006 10:38 AM What happens when you believe a notoriously unreliable conservative wanker “news” site?

The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. These are just a few of the surprising findings from a UCLA-led study, which is believed to be the first successful attempt at objectively quantifying bias in a range of media outlets and ranking them accordingly.

Next up from finchie, a smear of UCLA.

I thought you didn’t read my posts, Mr. Whackjob?

By Midori

May 23, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

I hardly think Mothra is helping out the troops by labeling them as cold-blooded murderers.

what do you call it then? “Liberating”??

1 : the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought

By finch

May 23, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

When Iraqis aren’t blowing eachother up, they’re ripping off eachother, and the US taxpayer.

“We are seeing corruption everywhere in Iraq — in every ministry, in every governorate,” said Radhi Hamza Radhi, head of the Commission on Public Integrity, Iraq’s anti-corruption agency.

“Corruption in Iraq is not new. Yet many experts believe that the situation has become dramatically worse since the invasion in 2003.”

“Corruption helps fuel the insurgency, as well, said Radhi. “The terrorists help the criminals and the criminals help the terrorists,” he said. “Without corruption, we would have been able to defeat the terrorists by now.”

Of course, a country gripped by the religious and tribal strife that was unleashed by a senseless and criminally undermanned and underfunded US invasion can’t be expected to maintain even a minimum of civilized conduct.

The Colin Powell “Pottery Barn” rule triumphs again.

By finch

May 23, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

Suck,

I never said I didn’t read your posts. But I understand you have a reputation to uphold.

Chronic liar.

Why don’t you retract the Drudge story on Gore that you posted with such glee?

By Midori

May 23, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

William Jefferson must resign.

NOW.

Betcha will never see a post like this from a Republican about a Republican.

By Shane

May 23, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Well after reading this thread im convinced of only one thing. This Andy guy is a nut. I mean jeez he is citing Matt Drudge as his source. So much hatred on here. I dont think Jesus would take either of your sides. Just shake his head and walk away

By Shane

May 23, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

Well after reading this thread im convinced of only one thing. This Andy guy is a nut. I mean jeez he is citing Matt Drudge as his source. So much hatred on here. I dont think Jesus would take either of your sides. Just shake his head and walk away

By Steve SC

May 23, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

Re RW’s and finch’s comments on my post about the loss of textile jobs: I grant you, textile jobs aren’t that great. But if you’re in your mid-to-late-50s and it’s all you’ve ever done, news like the shutdowns can ruin your whole weekend. My wife and I have managed to accumulate substantial wealth throughout our working lives, but I can show you people who’ve worked just as hard and been good citizens who are up against it. Current economic nostrums (of whatever stripe) most often don’t address these kinds of problems.

By finch

May 23, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

Steve,

You are absolutely right about workers approaching retirement who are trapped when their jobs are sent overseas, zapped by deregulation or become obsolete. I’ve been there. It’s not pleasant.

But protectionism just doesn’t work. It simply delays the inevitable. Education, retraining and flexibility are the only options, and those must be the priorities of both US governments (federal and state) and US businesses working together.

By mrs.godzilla

May 23, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

i know it’s late and this most likely won’t be read by poor, poor, pitifull buy danish, but in response to your last post - HUH?

the real world is only america?

racist AND coward.

is it responsible parenthood to talk tough and carry a big purse? (and probably a cheap knock off to boot)

tacky and coward.

what do you teach your children when you say one thing and do another?

selfish and coward.

why is it when chickenhawks are challenged they question the challengers patriotism.

uneducated and coward.

i would not insist you join the troops, you are obviously not made of the stern stuff the warrior class requires. but a warrior requires a just war.

weak and coward.

but you could bring the family over to the mideast, settle them in a comfortable ex-pat community and make three or four times what american soldiers make by just driving a truck or slinging hash.

greedy and coward.

your kind make me sick. unable to walk the talk - you stumble the mumble.

pathetic and coward.

who pays your salary while you spend your time frothing at the mouth on your desktop?

cheater and coward.

any body with gametes can produce a child. alot of them, including you should not have.

coward.

By mrs.godzilla

May 23, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

buy danish

i apologize for my rant. today i have seen things that make me wonder about the human race.

i am ashamed to have lost my temper and aimed it at a total stranger.

you and i will never agree on many things, but i behaved badly. and i am truly sorry.

pax?

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May 23, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

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By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

By finch May 23, 2006 10:52 AM they’re ripping off eachother, and the US taxpayer. can’t be expected to maintain even a minimum of civilized conduct.

When I first read this post I thought finchie was talking about William Jefferson, Democrat, Louisiana. My bad.

By Shane May 23, 2006 10:59 AM Well after reading this thread im convinced of only one thing. This Andy guy is a nut. I mean jeez he is citing Matt Drudge as his source. So much hatred on here. I dont think Jesus would take either of your sides. Just shake his head and walk away

It might be why I’m able to post a whole lot more information than you can. Sharing your opinion on how Christ feels about political debate does not go down as one of the most profound edicts ever issued in the history of mankind.

P.S. I wish Drudge would stop posting all of the left wing BS.

Midori: Now we get to watch as democrats talk about how superior they are (Jefferson resigning, won’t ever happen) versus Republicans actually showing that they are superior (Delay has resigned, should not have, soon to be acquitted.)

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

godzilla: Perhaps you should get more sleep?

in fact where i am it is nearly 6 a.m., the humidity has made sleeping difficult

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

Gore’s entourage takes five cars a few blocks at Cannes

I was just listening to the news on the radio (WABC), and they were saying that Gore apparently woulld have saved time if he had simply walked the few blocks from his hotel to where his film was showing at Cannes. The funny thing to me wasn’t that he would have saved time, but that his film is about global warming and here he is taking cars a very short distance when the cars take longer than simply walking.

By Midori

May 23, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

I’m not saying anyone is “superior”. That’s your warped sense of comprehension.

I’m saying that we don’t all follow lockstep like you people.

We see and call a wrong a wrong.

you people seem to think that party trumps every thing. we don’t.

I’m all for ALL corrupt politicans to get the boot - regardless of party.

You have a lot of nerve, Andy. No matter what anyone in your party does, you twist and turn and bend relentlessly in trying to defend them.

Were’nt you gleefully posting support for Tom Delay just a month or so before? When he was still running in his primary?

To you, none of your “leaders” can do no wrong.

Spare me, little man.

By Midori

May 23, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Andy,

you are truly a jack*ss.

Finch already posted the truth about that lie you are pushing about Gore.

I suppose you can’t help yourself.

In the meantime, how about those “hybrids” Hastert takes to his photo ops? Only to switch to gas guzzling SUV once his photo op is over? Why the he!l didn’t he walk?

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

Midori: You have never heard me lend support for Duke Cunningham, mostly because he is guilty. That’s the difference between Delay and Jefferson, Jefferson was caught on tape and Delay was falsely accused by a partisan political operative.

The second post about Algore’s never ending hypocrisy is to a link backing up what Drudge said. If you think I’m taking finch’s word on it, you are even more insane than I thought.

Check this out: Instead of me foaming hate and rage at you, let me just simply contradict what you say: After the conference, which addressed high gas prices, Hastert and other Congressmen had been carted away in fuel saving and alternatively powered automobiles. For security purposes, congressional leaders’ official cars are required to be armored, limiting their choices in those respects mostly to vans or SUVs.

By RW-(the original)

May 23, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Be careful tiptoeing around on that high road of yours.

So the new moonbat benchmark is that if a Democrat is caught on tape taking a 100G bribe and 90 of that is found neatly wrapped in his freezer then Democrats will call on him to resign and to make it fair Republicans should call on all Republicans that have been accused by crackpot liberals to resign even when there is no evidence.

I think I’ll stick with due process thank you very much.

BTW, shouldn’t you be calling for more than his resignation?

While I’m at it, since you only believe in top quality sources, how’s that Rove indictment coming? Heard from Jason lately?

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

his claim that Europe is deeply anti-American is exaggerated. In my dozens of visits, I’ve found that once you get outside London, Paris or Rome, people admire and respect the US.

Finch,

I infer from this that I can just disregard the moonbat opinions of all the millions of people who live in all the big blue cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York City, Boston and other left-liberal meccas.

Beautiful!

By finch

May 23, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Your link backing up what Drudge said, and later dropped from his website about Al Gore’s imaginary SUVs in Cannes takes me to the site of a wingnut, who says he heard about it on the radio.

Heard about it on the radio?? No link? No first hand account?

That’s a credible source?? That’s responsible journalism?? The radio guy probably saw it on Drudge! A 3rd hand rumor trumpeted as fact! No, make that 4th hand, including you. Incredible. You’re not only incapable of admitting a mistake, you insist on compounding the error even when you’re called on it.

And last time I checked, DeLay was still under indictment. Falsely accused? How do you know that? The bug catcher and subject of two IRS tax liens can already look at two ex-aides who have pleaded guilty (thanks, Jack Abramoff!). And he doesn’t even have the balls to stand his ground in Congress. And you’re so sure he’s some poor victim?

Typical loser wingnut.

By rushncap

May 23, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

If Tommy DeLay is so pure and innocent, li’l andy, why on Earth did he resign his leadership position and refuse to run for re-election? Sounds like the actions of someone who is wrongly accused to me…

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

I found at the “idiot propagandist’s” website (via Niles Lathem at the New York Post):

The Hezbollah terror group - one of the most dangerous in the world - may be planning to activate sleeper cells in New York and other big cities to stage an attack as the nuclear showdown with Iran heats up, sources told The Post.

The FBI and Justice Department have launched urgent new probes in New York and other cities targeting members of the Lebanese terror group.

Law-enforcement and intelligence officials told The Post that about a dozen hard-core supporters of Hezbollah have been identified in recent weeks as operating in the New York area.

Maybe if we’re really nice, participate in a lot of protest marches, and convert to Islam they’ll leave us alone.

If that plan fails, I hope you all don’t mind if we keep tabs on their phone calls and other activities, and if necessary act without waiting for a FISA court to decide for us.

Getalife,

What was funny about that post? Sorry, but your sense of humor goes right over my head oftentimes.

Godzilla,

Maybe it’s the heat and humidity, but you are out of your mind.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

finchie: No, I’m sure it was just a mere coincidence that eyewitnesses from Cannes reported on WABC Radio that Algore was a liberal hypocrite just the same as Drudge did. (Drudge takes down all of his news stories, usually at the end of every day.)

Speaking of credible evidence, here’s your hysterical way of putting it- That’s a credible source?? When do you reckon Ronnie Earle will show us what 3 grand juries rejected and he had to threaten the fourth one to get them to indict with?

Crackpot.

By finch

May 23, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Last time I checked, living in a big city in a Blue state and voting Democrat did not make you an Islamofascist terrorist hellbent on overthrowing Western civilization by blowing up things and killing innocents.

Maybe your attempt to compare patriotic Americans who disagree with Bush administration policy with amoral killers was supposed to be funny.

Trust me. It wasn’t.

mrs. godzilla,

Welcome to the jungle, where some of us do respect your views. I see your apology for your isolated rant is being ignored. Please don’t take it personally….

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

rushnsap: If Tommy DeLay is so pure and innocent, li’l andy, why on Earth did he resign his leadership position and refuse to run for re-election? Sounds like the actions of someone who is wrongly accused to me… If you weren’t so unbelievably wormy you might be able to understand the concept of party before individual. Delay is a dedicated upstanding man who realized that his fight with Earle would harm the party.

Plus he has grace, which is beyond the comprehension of a measly little socialist like you.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

Gosh, another Drudge headline reporting on Algore’s blatant liberal hypocrisy:

GLOBAL WARMING ALERT: GORE BURNS 439,500 LBS OF FUEL TO ATTEND SUMMIT

Boy, it looks like Matt Drudge is just scared to death of you liberals busting him for lies. Sarc off.

By finch

May 23, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Drudge yanked the Gore lie mere hours after it was posted. No other news organization went with it. And the only link you can find on it is to a guy who heard it on the radio.

Like I said, you’re compounding your lie by clinging to it. Typical.

And as far as credible evidence, bugkiller DeLay, and Ronnie Earle are concerned, last time I checked (I like saying that!) Tommy’s legal efforts to zap the indictments have gone nowhere.

Crackpot? Hardly.

By Real Conservatives Aren't Republican

May 23, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this

The good part of Republican ever dwindling poll numbers is that Republicans everywhere are now making nice. Bush is even promoting Democratically inspired immigration reform efforts, now.

Remember just a few short months ago when we were pelted with “your either for us or against us” and criticism of a “War-President” was tantamount to treason?

Public awareness and revulsion of Republican shout-down politics has turned public opinion to the Democrats. Look back in the archives for the language used by RNC paid shills “Andy” and “Buy Danish” in say January and compare that with the language they use today. Who says you can’t teach old dogs new tricks?

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

Oh finchie, you little sap: And as far as credible evidence, bugkiller DeLay, and Ronnie Earle are concerned, last time I checked (I like saying that!) Tommy’s legal efforts to zap the indictments have gone nowhere.

DeLay conspiracy charge dropped

You’re so on top of things. What a clown.

Any other moron pronouncements you want to make? Something really out there?

By getalife

May 23, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

BD,

From the lgf:

For all you CAIR monitors:

There is no god named allah. Mohammed was a pedophile. Where allah goes, blood flows.

Now kindly go f**k yourselves. Or your goat.

Your choice.

I find it funny that the hate they spew has landed them in legal trouble. Hate breeds hate.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

By finch May 23, 2006 03:03 PM Drudge yanked the Gore lie mere hours after it was posted. No other news organization went with it. And the only link you can find on it is to a guy who heard it on the radio.

Algore driving a fleet of SUVs 5 blocks to attend his film about “global warming” is news. See BS and PMSNBC should go out of their way to report the hypocrisy of a fellow blowhard mad scientist pinko?

finch, out of curiousity, do you check your own colon for polyps while you have your head up your a-ss?

By getalife

May 23, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Did you believe them when they said there was a hole in the ozone layer?

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

Just wondering: What time will wanker N-GA show up to spread his obsessive homophobic hatred using my name? I heard the shift change at Hardee’s was 4:00, so look for the little tosser be here about 4:30 or so.

You can tell it’s him because he’ll be asking me to wet him on his bed or some weird liberal nonsense like that.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this

getalife: The people in charge of NASA did and switched to an ozone friendly foam on the shuttle booster. This may have “helped” the “hole” in some unmeasurable way but it sure enough didn’t do seven astronauts any good at all.

I’m afraid you mad scientists want to do to the earth what NASA did to those astronauts.

No thanks.

By Griffin

May 23, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Dear @@, Dad and I miss you. We have nearly forgotten what you look like.

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

finch,

You are connecting dots that do not exist.

On one post I sarcastically responded to your off-handed dismissal of reasonable concerns about anti-American fervor in the biggest cities in Europe.

On a SEPARATE post I linked to a warning about Hezbollah, and attempted to make points about the need for the NSA to proceed unhindered by hysteria over unthreatened civil liberties AND the futility of blaming America first and following in the footsteps of people like Cindy Sheehan.

Apparently any concerns that I relay about Iranian nutcases bent on death and destruction in NYC is now evidence that I question the patriotism of Dem voters. You’ll forgive me if I don’t follow your paranoid logic.

As a footnote, I see that you have behaved in true Clintonian fashion and apologized for me to Godzilla for a rant which was NOT isolated, and very sanctimoniously tried to make ME look bad because of what SHE said.

Godzilla,

I’ll let you know when and if I’m ready to make peace. Sometimes it takes me a few days to get over being called a coward and a racist who shouldn’t have borne a child.

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Earlier this morning I understood that there was ONE post from some wacko at LGF.

Is that what you are raving about?

By rushncap

May 23, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

*Delay is a dedicated upstanding man who realized that his fight with Earle would harm the party.

Plus he has grace*

I guess “resigning in the face of an ethics investigation” is what passes for “grace” in the Republican party nowadays. No wonder even the total political incompetence of Democrats can’t bring up the Repubs’ numbers: with grace like that, who needs criminality?

By getalife

May 23, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Allow me to try to educate your wingnuttery mindset.

There was a very large hole in the ozone layer and here was the simple solution that is working.

BTW, Ricky said we should not resort to name calling but do onto others….

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Your 3:25 is perfect.

By getalife

May 23, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

Your 3:25 is perfect.

Perfectly ridiculous as usual.

You are consistently wrong on all subjects.

By rushncap

May 23, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this

Hey li’l andy, any evidence that the ozone regulations had ANYTHING to do with the Columbia crash?

By Midori

May 23, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

Ah, I see Buy Danish is now the resident cheerleader for Andy.

Right on, Getalife.

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

What Andy said about the NASA shuttle is correct. Environmental regulations dictated the use of foam.

Midori,

What can I do to get you into one of your psychotic parrot rants? Here, how’s this:

Andy,

Thanks for the great links.

By @@

May 23, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

Funny Griffin, very funny! Put your walking shoes on, I’m picking you up at 4:20. You can enjoy my company during a brisk 4 miles.

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I quickly checked out your enviromental website. While I didn’t watch the video, this did catch my eye:

WIND FARMS INTERFERING WITH RADAR SYSTEMS?

Many wind farm projects are on hold right now. The federal government is concerned about possible interference with military radar installations.

Ted Kennedy must be pleased with this report.

By Real Conservatives Aren't Republican

May 23, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

getalife/Rushncap- While I agree that Andy often wears Republican party blinders, I must agree with him regarding the shuttle foam as well as the asbestos putty that NASA abandoned. Both the CFC-friendly foam and asbestos-free putty have been highly implicated (if not proven) in the crashes of both the Colombia and Challenger. NASA was given EPA exemption (low quantity use) but chose to be politically correct and converted to more environmentally friendly but poorly performing alternatives.

NASA environmental protection causes deaths

By finch

May 23, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

You’re all over the map today. Talk about not connecting the dots. Whatever floats your boat.

Suck,

Algore driving a fleet of SUVs 5 blocks to attend his film about “global warming” is news.

Except he didn’t. So it isn’t. Nobody is saying he did. Not the Moonie Times, not the WSJ, not Fox, nobody. Give it up, buttwipe.

You reek of bovine brown consistency. Desperation is posting a 9 year old Drudge link to “prove” a point. Futility is refusing to acknowledge that Tommy DeLay’s legal problems are still there.

Take your meds.

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

Getalife and Rushncap,

Here’s a story on the Shuttle disaster and EPA regulations

Shuttle Foam Loss Linked to EPA Regs.

As recently as last month, NASA had been warned that foam insulation on the space shuttle’s external fuel tank could sheer off as it did in the 2003 Columbia disaster - a problem that has plagued space shuttle flights since NASA switched to a non-Freon-based type of foam insulation to comply with Clinton administration Environmental Protection Agency regulations.

Before you shriek that Newsmax is the source, read this:

*But instead of returning the much safer, politically incorrect, Freon-based foam for Discovery’s launch, the space agency tinkered with the application process, changing “the way the foam was applied to reduce the size and number of air pockets,” according to Newsday

Newsday, not Newsmax.

By Buy Danish

May 23, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this

Finch,

I’m “all over the map today”? Nice attempt to change the subject from your ludicrous conclusions.

I see you are still hung up on what really matters - whether or not Al Gore walked or drove.

Hezbollah in NY? Who cares! Global warming is the real threat.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

finchie: eyewitnesses reported on WABC Radio of Algore’s fleet of SUVs, not Andy. Contact them, you rectum dweller.

Look at these liberals getting all foamy and blind with rage about Tom Delay. It’s like the guy answered to the charges and without being required, resigned his post, which is a very honorable action. Every thing he has done in this whole sordid little affair has been by the book, according to what is required by law. And the libs get all bent, threatening to detonate their suicide vests.

It isn’t like Patrick Kennedy allegedly left the bar after a night of heavy drinking and drug consumption, crashed into the U.S. Capital nearly killing a slew of Police Officers, resisted arrest, lied to the officers obstructing an investigation, lied to the public and was escorted to the Kennedy Family Memorial Drug and Alcohol retreat where he relaxes today still collecting his government congressional salary. And who knows how many bottles of Chivas Swimmer has left for him hidden in the goldfish pond.

Do they foam over this? Do they hate me because of this? Why, no they don’t, they wax all indignant that you would even have the audacity to make mention of it. We are talking about Delay, after all, what does Kennedy have to do with this?

Didn’t you, Andy, see all of the fawning pieces done for Patrick by his loving drive by media mouthpieces about how running over Capital Hill Police could happen to anyone, you big meanie?

By finch

May 23, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this

I’m just having fun highlighting Suck’s obsession with the trivial. Especially when the trivial happens to be false.

As for the Hezbollah story, were you expecting me to argue “wild goose chase”? Was I supposed to discount the story? Sorry to disappoint you. For one thing, I consider the NY Post to be quite credible. Unlike Drudge.

I’m glad US authorities are keeping an eye on the handful of mideast nutjobs who might be plotting deadly mischief.

By Cindy

May 23, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

The foam caused the accident! How about the poor craftsmanship in the application of the foam to the shuttle?? Give it a break!

By WashingtonState

May 23, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

Blinded by preconceived notions?

By rushncap

May 23, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

I actually read about the foam, and on the NASA site, rather than some analysis by a right-wing nut.

Even assuming this is true, and it may well be, what is your point? That we should not jeopardize safety on the shuttle? Yeah, I agree. I guess those who built it felt that the new foam was as good as the old one, and it was not. Was there not enough testing done on it? You bet your sweet a$s there wasn’t. So what is the point? Are you saying we should not have EPA regulations? Or that we don’t need no stinkin’ ozone?

The only story here is that NASA failed to properly test new equipment. That is all. They had time (according to the NASA documents the switch took close to a decade) and they just did not do a good enough job. They need to do better.

By Scooter

May 23, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

Griffin?

By finch

May 23, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Rectum dweller? You’re so CUTE when you’re upset!! Why don’t YOU contact WABC? Why don’t you confirm the story? You brought it up!

And your foam at the mouth defense of Bugman DeLay is so entertaining! He’s under indictment. Appeals to vacate the indictments have mostly failed.

Guilty guilty guilty!!!

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

By rushnsap May 23, 2006 04:56 PM I actually read about the foam, Even assuming this is true, and it may well be, what is your point?

Gee, let’s see here, a big a-ss piece of foam came off the booster during launch and struck the shuttle tearing a hole in it’s wing, which had never happened before until they changed foams.

Must be a big right wing conspiracy. There you go.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this

finchie: I do admire your fearlessness; even when made to look like a complete a-ss you still blindly charge straight into the maw of catastrophic defeat.

I honestly wished I owned WABC Radio, or maybe if I were a wizard, I could go back and change what those announcers said. But I can’t. We just have to accept the fact that what they saw, sitting there watching the whole thing unfold at Cannes, caused them to say “look at that Algore, he just got through scolding the entire world like some old blue haired granny and now he does the exact same thing, riding a few short blocks like some pinko rock star.”

And I’m willing to take my chances with Delay, after all, if one of the charges were found to be totally bogus and got thrown out, what does that say about the other charge?

Plus, I’ve given some smack to Delay’s legal defense fund as I’m sure several other fat cat Republican millionaire businessmen have. But how does this small gesture compare to the vast resources of some two bit county prosecutor, Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Beautiful.

By @@

May 23, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

I think I’ll try one of those after-hour posts I’ve been reading about.

Commenting on the cartoon……

No matter how you want to draw it ml, this cartoon, in no way, reflects the majority of Christians. I for one, don’t plan on seeing the movie simply because my interest is not peaked. Which pretty much sums up my opinion of most of hollywood’s movies these days.

By 8 To 5 Andy

May 23, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this

I don’t have to explain about 7:10 and 7:26, we all know by now that this kind of filth is what liberals are all about. They show their true character for all of us to see, the scum of the Earth.

And the AJC doesn’t care. A personal attack on a patron of their website, an attack based on discrimination of homosexuals, using the foulest name calling, every night, by the same person, this N-GA. I guess they are trying to establish a boundary of acceptable behaviour, one that obviously has nothing to do with this:

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What a load of crap.

By Mike Luckovich Should Be So Proud

May 23, 2006 08:35 PM | Link to this

Finch,

Yes, I have contributed to Tom Delay’s defense fund. So what if it was money from my gay porn moonlighting gig? That’s my only source of income now. I mean, come on, it’s not like most of the money in the Republican cofers doesn’t come from bribes, payoffs, laundering, etc. anyway. How you get the money doesn’t matter because we are speaking for God. What it says in the Bible, especially Romans, is fact, the truth in all regards. I really like the parts about smiting and slavery and stoning. We should bring those back. Liberal piece of sh-it.

By NonMovieGoer

May 25, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this

Why would one expect a good movie to come out of a poorly written book? Theology aside, the story was juvenal and the book, a best seller to the tune of 40 million copies, was not well written.