Mike Luckovich

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 07:56 AM | Link to this

Oh, O.K. so now the libs want us to invade another country, I get it. It would be nice if they could make up their minds.

Besides which, you pinkos could care less about genocide, unless this is some recent conversion y’all have had. Saddam was butchering people on a Hitlerian pace in the 90’s, all the left did about it was starve to death all of Iraq’s children with “Oil For Food,” building a bunch of new palaces for your boy and stuffing your own pockets full of oil money.

Of course, let’s not look to the UN to solve this, it’s not like it’s their job or anything. We wouldn’t want to interrupt those “Condemn Israel” conferences, now would we?

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 07:59 AM | Link to this

Uncle Sam ought to be pitching in but of course we can’t help out in a true humanitarian crises because we would rather spend billions on a boondoggle in Iraq.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

The Senate approval rating stands at 22%, I wonder if things like this have something to do with it?:

While congressional Republicans and Democrats in both the House and Senate promised to roll back billions of dollars in tax breaks for major oil companies, the House in a largely symbolic vote Thursday seemed to move in the other direction. It included a $100 fuel-cost rebate for millions of taxpayers and proposals to rescind oil industry tax breaks enacted only eight months ago, and other measures.

Meanwhile back on Earth, anybody capable of following along knows that the oil companies make 8 cents on each gallon while the lovies in government are making 45 cents per gallon. That’s 5 times more than the people they are grandstanding against. Do they think we are all stupid liberals or what?

Who’s gouging who?

By LB

April 28, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

Finally!! Our dictatorship government has admitted what we’ve all known - this war has accomplished about as much as poking a hornet’s nest with a stick.

The State Department’s annual terrorism report, being released today, finds that Iraq is becoming a safe haven for terrorists and has attracted a “foreign fighter pipeline” linked to terrorist plots, cells and attacks throughout the world, a senior State Department official tells CNN. The report also says terrorist groups associated with al Qaeda present the greatest threat, even greater than al Qaeda itself.

I’m sure we all feel safer now.

By Eric

April 28, 2006 08:21 AM | Link to this

Rwanda all over again. Because they have little to offer the world, the hypocrits in the EU, UN and US will sit by and let slaughter and genocide occur. The only reason we’ve helped the Iraq people is simple… OIL. The US never, EVER learns a lesson. We’re cleaning up messes we helped make in Afghanistan and Iraq and we’ll have another mess to clean up there in a decade or so. We either need to step up and free ALL oppressed people (whether they have oil or not) or we need to shut off help to ANYONE and worry about the mess that has been created in our own borders.

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

Everybody relax. Just because our incompetence in Iraq has produced exactly what we feared the most, do not hold George W. Bush accountable.

It’s God’s fault.

‘God told me to invade Iraq’

It’s the Competence, STUPID!

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this

For all you slow, stupid, ward of the state liberals that are too ignorant to follow along, 7:59 was not me. It was one of your jerk off cohorts.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this

No OIL, no help. It is a simple as that.

By sickofsleaze

April 28, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this

If Bush believes in God the way he says he does I don’t see how he thinks God can approve of the lies, cheating and money-grubbing he does. Rove should explain what hypocrit means

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

By Eric April 28, 2006 08:21 AM Rwanda all over again.

I just want to add some pertinent details:

A sorry apology from Clinton John Ryle Monday April 13, 1998 During President Clinton’s tour of Africa he apologised not once but twice: in Uganda he apologised for the slave trade; in Rwanda he apologised for western inaction in the face of the Rwanda genocide. The only person who didn’t get an apology, as a number of American commentators remarked, was Paula Jones.

How much does America give the UN every year? To do what exactly?

By sickofsleaze

April 28, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

I’m just a dumb liberal but I have been under the impression it was Bush 1 after Desert Storm that iniated Oil For Food in exchange for the Saudis letting him continue to make make megabucks from mideast oil

By Wild Sects

April 28, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this

Excellent toon Mike - accurately illustrates that unless the US can kill people or take their resources we don’t want any part of it.

By Wild Sects

April 28, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Andy, you don’t need to keep informing us which posts are yours and which are not. If it’s more than one or two lines we just don’t bother to read them anyway.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

By LB April 28, 2006 08:13 AM Finally!! Our dictatorship government has admitted what we’ve all known - this war has accomplished about as much as poking a hornet’s nest with a stick.

Hey! It looks like CNN/ The State Department have started an annual run shrieking through the streets, panties in a wad terror report. It figures the libs believe it:

Terror threat to U.S. called ‘significant’ Official blames increase in reported attacks on deeper review. Thursday, April 28, 2005 Posted: 5:19 AM EDT

How, oh how, did they know last year that we were going to get attacked in the US as much as we did? CNN new all those US cities were going to get flamed and we didn’t listen! Ahhhhhh!

By George

April 28, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

Wild Sects

Andy knows that you don’t read his posts, he puts those up for himself.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

Wrong again, sickofsleaze:

On 14 April 1995, acting under Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, the Security Council adopted resolution 986, establishing the “oil-for-food” programme, providing Iraq with another opportunity to sell oil to finance the purchase of humanitarian goods, and various mandated United Nations activities concerning Iraq.

It was your boy, clinton.

For all you slow, stupid, ward of the state liberals that are too ignorant to follow along, 8:37 was not me. It was one of your jerk off cohorts.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

But if we look beneath all these self-serving contradictions, real progress amid the carnage since September 11 is undeniable. It is not just that the United States has not been attacked again. Al Qaeda’s leadership has been insidiously dismantled. Even bin Laden’s communiqués are increasingly pathetic, whining about lost truce opportunities for the Crusaders while warning of more welcomed genocide in Darfur. We can be sure of his war-induced attenuated stature when some on the Left are already suggesting that the 9/11 attacks were mostly the operations of just a few criminals rather than precursors to international jihad.

By LB

April 28, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this

These right-wing fanatics can’t seem to make any intelligent comments or contribute to a discussion without childish name-calling. They sound like they came right off the elementary school playground. I guess with their child-like (blind) faith in W, I shouldn’t be surprised.

Keep towing the party line children and maybe one day you’ll grow up and think for yourselves like most adults. Unfortunately, by then you’ll realize you were duped.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this

By LB April 28, 2006 08:13 AM Finally!! Our dictatorship government has admitted what we’ve all known - this war has accomplished about as much as poking a hornet’s nest with a stick.

By LB April 28, 2006 09:10 AM These right-wing fanatics can’t seem to make any intelligent comments

Pot calling the kettle?

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

LB,

A month ago or so the “free thinking liberals’ were marching in lockstep to tell us that Bush was a fearmonger and there was virtually no terrorist threat. Fast forward to today when the State Department report comes out and suddenly Bush is the worldwide creator of terror and has done such a masterful job that there is an attack waiting behind every Birkenstock store.

Why didn’t some of you “free thinkers” say that Bush was having the State Department promote fear. The answer, of course, is the left in this country is made up of a bunch of hysterical opportunists that will take whatever marching orders moveon.org of A.N.S.W.E.R gives you.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

Nonetheless, bin Laden’s call to open a new front in Sudan highlights some underappreciated aspects of the jihadist mission. First, most of the people being slaughtered by Sudan’s Arab-controlled government are Muslims. Bin Laden wants his holy warriors to fight for a Sudanese right to exterminate indigenous Muslim tribes. In this, Bin Ladenism represents a perverse form of globalization.

That’s Bin Laden, the left’s hero.

And on the left, we get the usual knee-jerk defense of any seemingly “indigenous” foreign movement that casts America as a global villain. The reality is that in the War on Terrorism, America is on the side of freedom and diversity. Bin Laden & Co. are the real crusaders.

By Jesus

April 28, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Pequod

April 28, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this

“AJC…”

Here is a challenge. Write a post in which you state a conclusion, give an argument for it, and refrain from calling anyone names. Just evidence for a thesis, no abuse, nothing which is not relevant to your claim. (Just pretend you’re writing a college paper for example, if you went to college.)

It’s not hard, if you really try.

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

Wow!!

At this same point in the second term of his administration, Bill Clinton’s job approval was consistently in the mid to high 60’s

Poor little W is consistently in the mid to low 30’s.

You shills for the ‘worst administration in the history of our country’ are looking dumber and dumber by the day.

It’s the Competence, STUPID!!

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

You nuts have definitely left the plantation.

RW (crispy) states that ‘free thinking liberals’ were stating a month ago that “there was virtually no terrorist threat.”

Now everyone’s favorite deranged, narrow-minded shill characterizes Bin Laden as “the left’s hero.”

I personally have seen nothing that backs either of these statements. This makes you look even more pitiful than usual.

It’s the Competence, STUPID!!!

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

Pequod,

Here’s a thought. Why don’t you contribute in whatever manner you see fit and not try to set the rules for everyone else?

I’m sure you can prove your superiority through your brilliance and restraint without resorting to the misguided liberal belief that you should control everyone else’s speech “for the common good.”

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

By Pequod April 28, 2006 09:28 AM

Are you kidding me?

Are you talking about something like this?: Bush sucks.

Is that what you want from me?

Unreal.

By Hiram

April 28, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

TBJ,

So what would you like to discuss today?

More name calling or civil discourse.

We all know what sAndy wants.

By Laura

April 28, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this

I think the troll called “The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism” is just another impotent hillbilly who is cowering on these pages instead of fighting Mr. Bush’s War for Oil.

What’s the matter ‘billy - frustrated that you can’t afford gas for your tuna-boat sized SUV anymore?

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

During a briefing led by White House spokesman Scott McClellan as President Bush was traveling to New Orleans, Louisiana, the Washington Post’s Jim VandeHei asked why the White House televisions always seemed to be tuned to Fox News and if it was possible to have them tuned instead to CNN.

I mean, really, Bush, showing the press corp Faux News with them being pinkos and all. That’s just so cruel.

See, I can get on Bush every once in a while.

By Thomas

April 28, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

Ok —-

Lets get this straight —

Iran has enriched uranium themselves to the level for a nuclear reactor.

Iran has purchased long range missiles from North Korea.

Let see — if I have this straight.

They now have the nuclear material capabilities, and delivery systems to build a dirty bomb, and pretty much hit Isreal, and sections of Europe, and we would have no way to stop those missiles.

Dirty Bomb Terrorism by Missile!

No wonder they are so confident right now!

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

So, who will go down in history as the ‘Worst President’ ever?

Most historians agree…

George W. Bush is in serious contention for the title of worst ever. In early 2004, an informal survey of 415 historians conducted by the nonpartisan History News Network found that eighty-one percent considered the Bush administration a “failure.” Among those who called Bush a success, many gave the president high marks only for his ability to mobilize public support and get Congress to go along with what one historian called the administration’s “pursuit of disastrous policies.”

It’s The Competence, STUPID!!!!

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

Satan Help Us is quoting Rolling Stone as his presidential history source, sweet.

BTW, who’s ‘billy?

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

LHU,

You can choose not to believe my statement and it’s entirely possible that you didn’t read those “no terror threat” comments, but they are right here in ml’s archives.

Note to Peqoud: Did you happen to notice that LHU decided to go straight to the name calling card or is that only a one-way street with you?

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

Most historians don’t prejudge history. That is some background on the Rolling Stone historian Sean Wilentz.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism,

I think Billy is Jimmah’s brother.

By Hiram

April 28, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this

TBJ and sAndy,

Why the silence today? Yesterday you were both ready to teach me a lesson of sorts.

TBJ was proven to be intelletually lacking when he couldn’t get his mind around a day being a point in time.

sAndy refused to pick a topic, prepare overnight, and discuss it the next day.

You are both jokes. Bad jokes at that.

To scared to try again? Afraid this liberall will embarass you again? Afraid to try and defend any of the nonsense you spew without name calling and posing as others on the board - that’s for sAndy only - or repeating what you heard on BOR or HAC last night?

Go ahead and call names, that’s about all either of you seem to be able to do these days.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

I guess I should really paste the quote from the Princeton website about what Sean Wilentz, noted Rolling Stone historian, has to say about the proper roles here.

I do think that historians must always be careful that their history writing doesn’t become infected by their politics. The minute you start with a political idea and try to find a version of history that affirms it, you’re a bad historian. A good propagandist, maybe, but a lousy historian.

By Bottom Line

April 28, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Who needs Rolling Stone to answer who the worst President of all-time is, its obvious………….

George W. Bush- Worst President ever….BY FAR!

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

Wait a minute, Billy Carter was cool!

I much prefer Billy to this President’s immoral brother, Neil Bush

By Hiram

April 28, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this

TurdBlossom Jr.,

Read the article and show me where it’s biased. Just because you think he’s biased because he believes GWB is a joke doesn’t make it so.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this

Hi Rim: I told you yesterday that I was fully prepared to discuss which mental disorder you are afflicted with and nothing has changed from that.

If you would like to talk politics, why don’t you present some topics for discussion like I do? If they are boring, like I can just imagine yours will be, people can pass on them if they so choose. If they disagree, they are free to comment and give reasons why.

When have I ever said anything different?

By Dusty

April 28, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Your early morning comments on “Decider” were great. There should be some good discussion following that. But what do we get?

Luckovich notices Darfur and decides that this is a good thing to throw blame on “Uncle Sam”. He probably doesn’t even know that African nations have been sending troops to Darfur as peacekeepers. The US has been backing these troops with supplies and information. The US has been the major supplier of aid and food to refugees, much of it through relief agencies. Conditions are still terrible under suppressive Muslim leaders there.

Are liberals really concerned about all this? On this blog they are too busy trashing conservatives and deciding if Bush is the worst president. Who cares about Darfur? Ha.. let’s take another poll on Bush.

While we are doing that, let’s take a poll on how many liberals are truly concerned about Darfur. Darfur?? Darfur??

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

My firmest, deepest political belief is that if Jimmy Carter had drunk one of Billy’s beers, he would have taken care of Iran’s a-ss that afternoon. 9/11 would have never happened and we would have all lived happily ever after.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

A NATION at war must keep secrets. The media can’t plead that classified documents just fell into their hands, obligating them to publish our secrets out of a noble respect for truth. That’s bull, and every journalist knows it. Could a punk down on the block claim that, since he was offered a gun, he was obligated to aim it and pull the trigger?

Yeah, leaks don’t kill people, journalists do.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

For the painfully dense among us this quote is FROM SEAN WILENTZ:

I do think that historians must always be careful that their history writing doesn’t become infected by their politics. The minute you start with a political idea and try to find a version of history that affirms it, you’re a bad historian. A good propagandist, maybe, but a lousy historian.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

But pique over your presidential candidate’s defeat or mere disagreement with a policy does not justify anyone - intelligence professional or political appointee - in passing classified information to a party not authorized to receive it.

If you draw a government (or contractor) paycheck and willfully compromise classified material, you should go to jail. If you are a journalist in receipt of classified information and you publish it to the benefit of our enemies, you should go to jail (you may, however, still accept your journalism prize, as long as the trophy has no sharp edges). And consider yourself fortunate: The penalty for treason used to be death.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

Brought to you by the Rolling Stone’s version of the worst President ever

By Hiram

April 28, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Musty,

Your lack of compassion for your fellow man is sad.

Why don’t you care that thousands are dieing?

The inablity of the current Administration to show any real interest in humanitarian world issues is disgraceful.

sAndy,

The Shrub is about to approve the sale of 6 or so military factories to Dubai. Most of them are here in Georgia. These plants manufacture turbines and such for tanks and airplanes.

This is yet another mistake in the Shrub’s quest to “reward” our arab partners for helping us in the “War on Terror.”

Do you agree with GWB?

By Hiram

April 28, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

TBJ,

The statement you continue to post from the author of the RS article does not in any way imply that that’s what he’s done.

Read the article and show me where he has done what you accuse him of doing.

If you cannot. Shut up.

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

[Brought to you by the man behind the huge increase in gov’t spending, who has yet to veto a single bill, and who will ulimately bankrupt this country]{http://www.cato.org/dailys/07-31-03.html)

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

Shiite, let’s try that again…

Brought to you by the man behind the huge increase in gov’t spending, who has yet to veto a single bill, and who will ulimately bankrupt this country

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Here’s my cartoon comment, made out of gracious good manners to our Pulitzer Patriot host:

Kofi Annan is the “One person” who immediately comes to mind. Wake up Kofi!

But be very careful not to insult the Muslims that are committing the genocide. We wouldn’t want to radicalize them any further.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

LHU,

My link was from the most recently released figures for the first quarter of 2006. It would seem to belie your gloom and doom projections of 2003.

That being said I am one that thinks this President’s spending habits on domestic programs are atrocious. The only thing worse would be giving the pursestrings to Democrats.

By Hiram

April 28, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this

sAndy,

Here’s the article about the Shrub’s latest move to reward Dubai for all their “help” in our war.

By finch

April 28, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

I see AJC is parroting the cons who don’t want us to “invade” Sudan to stop the Darfur killings. Just like the cons opposed the peace actions in Rwanda and Bosnia. Which actually made a difference.

Remember Bosnia and Rwanda? One shattered country. One true case of genocide. As opposed to Iraq. A dirty dictatorship, but far better than others that actually support terror!!

But wait!! unlike Bosnia, Rwanda and Darfur… Iraq has lots and lots of OIL!

And let’s reprise the post from Lord Help Us at 9:30am. Because it is so spot on.

RW (crispy) states that ‘free thinking liberals’ were stating a month ago that “there was virtually no terrorist threat.”

Now everyone’s favorite deranged, narrow-minded shill characterizes Bin Laden as “the left’s hero.”

I personally have seen nothing that backs either of these statements. This makes you look even more pitiful than usual.

It’s the Competence, STUPID!!!

Absolutely right, LHU. This liberal has been saying for years that a US invasion of Iraq would spawn more terrorists. This liberal has wanted Osama dead since before 9/11.

The wingnut stereotyping of BushBot critics as “commie leftist traitors” is a top reason why only 1/3 of Americans take them, and Bush seriously.

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

RW-(Crispy)

Nothing in the article I linked has been debunked over the last three years.

We are spending at an unsustainable rate and NOTHING is being done about it! You can thank 12 years of Republican control of Congress, combined with the last 5+ years with a Republican President for this mess.

The article actually contrasts this situation with the past two Democrat Administrations…so, your insinuation that ‘giving the purse strings to Democrats’ would be worse is easily punted into the next county. Try again…

By VFW

April 28, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

The voice from within. I’m listening.

By Dusty

April 28, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

Harem scarem Hiram,

Do you even read posts before you object to them? Nooo.

Many months ago I began my own “one person can make a difference” in Darfur. In other words, don’t wait for the government to do everything for you.

My own efforts don’t make a drop in the bucket but I send what support I can to Lutheran World Relief and Doctors Without Borders for specific aid to Darfur. May I ask if you have given ANY support for Darfur other than running your mouth? I will be glad to supply you with addresses of relief agencies.

Put your money where your mouth is, Hiram. And Luckovich can send some too from all that big money he got for knocking our government and our president.

By Hiram

April 28, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

Increases in Federal Government spending hide the true nature of the economy.

If Bush were a true Conservative maybe this wouldn’t have happened.

Shame on him.

By Joe Roman

April 28, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

The humanitarian horrors of Darfur, Rwanda, Biafra, Ethiopia and countless others can be traced to the cavalier way the colonial powers simply picked up and left in the wake of both world wars. Across the board, all the European nations systematically excluded the native populations from participation in governent causing a political vacuum when they left. Many African nations have never recovered. We white Americans followed an analogous path here. In the sixties after the fair and open housing laws were implimented, middle class whites abandoned the cities as if a hurricane was coming. Their cynical, dispicible follow-up took the form of obeying the letter but not the spirit of open housing. Oh, they rented their former city dwellings to minorities all right, but they went out of their way to be the worse landlords possible. Pretty clever joke, huh? Rent out property to “those people”, allow the property to deteriorate and blame the deterioration of the properties, the neighborhoods and the cities on “those people”. In a way, the ugliest part of this sordid little episode is that many white liberals who get sanctimonious about the ‘plight of minorities’ are the landlords and children of the landlords who created that plight through their cynicism and closet racism. I think we white Americans should get down on our knees every night and thank God that minorities don’t just shoot us on sight.

By Pequod

April 28, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

RW.

You offered a straw man misrepresentation of what I said. I didn’t try to “set the the rules for everyone else” I simply asked if were possible for a particular individual to behave in a civil manner and offer an argument for a claim.

I see with your personal attacks that you are unwilling or unable to give a reasoned response free of abuse either, with your silliness about “brillance and superiority.” I never made such a claim or implied it. And of course I did not say anything about “for the common good.” So, perhaps you should make the effort to actually read and understand what someone says instead of substituting your stock ideological stereotype of what you take to be a “liberal.”

If you choose to be uncivil, rude, to misrepresent what people say, abuse them, and refuse to give evidence or argument for anything, I’m sure that you cannot be affected by evidence or argument or reason.

When you actually give an argument and I doubt seriously that you are able, then I will respond. If you don’t offer something of content to respond to, I won’t. And that is free speech as well.

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Glad you enjoyed my early morning comments. [Here’s the link to them] (http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/entries/2006/04/27/imthedecider.html#comment-423765)

I’ve got some more in the works. Stay tuned.

By rushncap

April 28, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

Well played, RW. Some of those who have not been on this blog for a while might actually think that you care about Darfur yourself, due to your attack on liberals.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

LHU,

Since you can’t seem to refrain from this childish game of changing people’s screen names I have a hard time taking you seriously. It’s always expensive when a Republican administration has to come in and fix all the things that Democrats have laid waste to.

finch,

Glad to see you have joined the 20/20 hindsight brigade. All we need is a time machine and you liberals could save the world.

By finch

April 28, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Liberals have been decrying the Darfur tragedy for years. Where have YOU been?? Still criticizing Clinton backed peacekeeping missions in Rwanda and Bosnia?

Be scared. Darfur refugees have been streaming out of Sudan into neighboring Chad, which is getting LOTS of US military aid. Gosh, who cares about the civilians anyway?

But dispensing military aid to Chad now — with Mr. Déby fighting hundreds of rebels backed by Sudan — seems reckless. It puts American military equipment and expertise in the hands of a desperate dictator. Worse still, it risks pouring additional fuel into the human furnace of Darfur, and it may well come to impede the careful diplomatic work required to solve that crisis.

Your tax dollars at work! And the payoff?

In recent months, scores of Chadian soldiers have defected to the rebel militias. If the defections continue, they raise the horrific possibility that American military equipment and expertise could end up going to men aligned with (Sudan’s) janjaweed. In that case, our military assistance to Chad, far from containing political anarchy, would only add to it.

Bush foreign policy in a nutshell. Take a bad situation (like Iraq), attempt a military solution, and make it worse.

By Hiram

April 28, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

Musty,

I haven’t been around on this board all that long and I have much better things to do than read through the archives.

Deal with it.

It’s nice that you really help with what you are able. It’s a shame your words don’t mirror your actions.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

Well, I get back from my al Qaeda terrorist training camp indoctrination (according to the Right Wing Paranoids) and find that Suck is spreading some more of those Republican Family Values here on this blog. The excerpts of his postings are so informative that I think I will add them as a postscript to every post I make from here on out (see below).

Since the movie, “United 93”, opens today it may be useful to look at the nationalities of the hijakers and those invloved in the plot.

UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93 (Stony Creek Township, Penn.) Link“>http://www.sptimes.com/2002/09/01/911/plotters.shtml)

Ziad Samir Jarrah, pilot and group leader: Lebanese

Saeed Alghamdi: Saudi

Ahmed Ibrahim A. Al Haznawi: Saudi

Ahmed Alnami: Saudi

Well shucks, Cheney/Bush told us that the IRAQI’S were responsible for 9/11. Where’s the Iraqi’s?

Andy (AKA Liberals Suck And Lie, AJC Promotes Hate And Racism, etc.): 2/18 (10:24p) Referring to N GA’s disabled daughter: “I’ll come by to help your daughter later, Sissy, after you fallen into a drunken stupor. She needs a real man, anyway.; 4/26 (10:04a) “Birmingham abortion clinic, former nurse Emily Lyons gets $57.69 in “victim” restitution. They should have paid Eric Rudolph, given him a service medal, and sent him back out to get some more of these baby butchers.” Those are most certainly the Republican Family Values that we all know so well.

By Dusty

April 28, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

finch,

What was our great aid to Rwanda? Clinton’s apology after the killings?

As to oil, did you not know that Darfur is very rich in oil resources? That some think that the Sudanese government is conducting genocide in Darfur to clear the way for Chinese development there in oil production?

You still seem to think Iraq is all about oil. But Darfur is also sitting on great oil reserves. But we are only sending help there. How do you put that reasoning together? Or did you not know about oil reserves in Darfur?

These accusations about our country won’t work because we are not in Iraq ONLY about oil. Could we try for a little consistency in thought here?

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

RW-(Extra Crispy)

Sounds like you’re ChickenShiite to me…

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

Well shucks, the IRAQI’s weren’t on Flt 93, where could they be? Maybe here:

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77 (Pentagon) Link“>http://www.sptimes.com/2002/09/01/911/plotters.shtml)

Hani Hanjour, pilot and group leader: Saudi

Nawaf Alhazmi: Saudi

Majed Moqed: Saudi

Khalid Almihdhar: Saudi

Salem Alhazmi: Saudi

Nope, no IRAQI’s here. Surely the President and the “Vice”-President of the United States couldn’t be dead wrong or yanking our chains could they?

Andy (AKA Liberals Suck And Lie, AJC Promotes Hate And Racism, etc.): 2/18 (10:24p) Referring to N GA’s disabled daughter: “I’ll come by to help your daughter later, Sissy, after you fallen into a drunken stupor. She needs a real man, anyway.; 4/26 (10:04a) “Birmingham abortion clinic, former nurse Emily Lyons gets $57.69 in “victim” restitution. They should have paid Eric Rudolph, given him a service medal, and sent him back out to get some more of these baby butchers.” Those are most certainly the Republican Family Values that we all know so well.

By Scooter

April 28, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

ml, at least this President didn’t avoid calling Darfur a genocide like a previous president avoided applying the term to Rwanda. Can the man get some propers for that?

Matter of fact, genocide requires the UN to act, does it not? Ml, if you wanted, and want, to return Americans trust to the effectiveness of the UN when it comes to Iraq, why not Darfur? have you aked yourself these things ml, have you?

Haw many “marbles” do you have ml?

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

Pequod,

I guess it’s possible that you really aren’t one of the regulars using a different name. One thing that happens here frequently is that a new name shows with exactly the same arguments as someone from the past and immediately gets in the face of the people here that try to stay with the same name.

You fit that profile to a tee, but if I’m wrong I apologize for that. As for the claim of brilliance and superiority, you are right that you didn’t literally make the claim, but you most certainly implied it.

I am usually fairly civil as the blog world goes, but I guess one thing I am right about is that you only see things from one side.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

Here’s a quote from Hi R**** 11:15, just to help you judge the seriousness of this clown:

Sluggish private job growth indicates failure of tax cuts

Of course, it’s from a socialist website.

This is called proclaiming yourself irrelevent to the discussion.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Well shoot, still no IRAQI’s on Flt 93 or Flt 77. Those miserable IRAQI terrorists must have been on this one:

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11 (WTC- North Tower) Link“>http://www.sptimes.com/2002/09/01/911/plotters.shtml)

Mohamed Atta, pilot and group leader: Egyptian

Abdulaziz Alomari: Saudi

Satam M.A. Al Suqami: Saudi

Wail M. Alshehri: Saudi

Waleed M. Alshehri: Saudi

Heck, still no IRAQI’s. But we must believe in Cheney/Bush, they’re on a mission form God and would never tell us a bold-faced lie, would they?

Andy (AKA Liberals Suck And Lie, AJC Promotes Hate And Racism, etc.): 2/18 (10:24p) Referring to N GA’s disabled daughter: “I’ll come by to help your daughter later, Sissy, after you fallen into a drunken stupor. She needs a real man, anyway.; 4/26 (10:04a) “Birmingham abortion clinic, former nurse Emily Lyons gets $57.69 in “victim” restitution. They should have paid Eric Rudolph, given him a service medal, and sent him back out to get some more of these baby butchers.” Those are most certainly the Republican Family Values that we all know so well.

By Hiram

April 28, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this

Speaking of Republican Family Values…

By Dusty

April 28, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

Hiram & finch.

Please tell us what YOU have done in the way of aid to Darfur. It is so easy to tell the government what to do.

What have YOU done?

(PS—please read my posts before you complain about them. That helps a lot.)

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

I think we white Americans should get down on our knees every night and thank God that minorities don’t just shoot us on sight.

This says it all about liberalism. It’s racist, it’s falsified, it’s victim creation. It sucks heavy. It’s exactly what is wrong with the world.

Except for 11:37 who is probably employed by the AJC, seeing how they like to throw that liberal hate and racism around.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this

Well bother, again no IRAQI’s. Surely then they must all be on the last plane:

UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175 (WTC- South Tower) Link“>http://www.sptimes.com/2002/09/01/911/plotters.shtml)

Marwan al-Shehhi, pilot and group leader: United Arab Emirates

Fayez Rashid Ahmed Hassan Al Qadi Banihammad: Saudi

Ahmed Alghamdi: Saudi

Hamza Alghamdi: Saudi

Mohand Alshehri: Saudi

Hell’s Bells, Cheney/Bush told us that those IRAQI’s were sneaky buggers. Maybe they were using liberal mind control techniques to guide all these non-IRAQI’s to do their bidding.

Andy (AKA Liberals Suck And Lie, AJC Promotes Hate And Racism, etc.): 2/18 (10:24p) Referring to N GA’s disabled daughter: “I’ll come by to help your daughter later, Sissy, after you fallen into a drunken stupor. She needs a real man, anyway.; 4/26 (10:04a) “Birmingham abortion clinic, former nurse Emily Lyons gets $57.69 in “victim” restitution. They should have paid Eric Rudolph, given him a service medal, and sent him back out to get some more of these baby butchers.” Those are most certainly the Republican Family Values that I know so well.

By Hiram

April 28, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

Musty,

I’ve written my Congressman and both Senators urging them to introduce legislation to provide military assistance to Darfur.

I’ve donated money to Oxfam and Doctors Without Borders specifically asking that some of the money be directed to Darfur.

That is not the point however. The point here is that our Government is lacking in its response to this tragedy. Shame on them and shame on you for supporting them.

Get off your high-horse. You and your buddies are no better than anyone else and probably - based on the venom you all spew - much worse.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

And LHU comes through again..DING DING DING…

When confronted with the fact that Republicans have to spend to make up for the screw ups of Democrats that preceded them he comes back with……

Sounds like you’re ChickenShiite to me

Brilliant!! (and no Pequod I know he didn’t actually say brilliant)

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

Well, still no IRAQI’s lurking in the bushes. Maybe their leaders are IRAQI since they were using those liberal mind control techniques:

Osama bin Laden (Founder of al Qaeda): Saudi

Well al Qaeda’s main man is not IRAQI. Cheney/Bush must have it right, though. They’ve told us time and time again that THEY were never responsible for anything.

Andy (AKA Liberals Suck And Lie, AJC Promotes Hate And Racism, etc.): 2/18 (10:24p) Referring to N GA’s disabled daughter: “I’ll come by to help your daughter later, Sissy, after you fallen into a drunken stupor. She needs a real man, anyway.; 4/26 (10:04a) “Birmingham abortion clinic, former nurse Emily Lyons gets $57.69 in “victim” restitution. They should have paid Eric Rudolph, given him a service medal, and sent him back out to get some more of these baby butchers.” Those are most certainly the Republican Family Values that I know so well.

By Hiram

April 28, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

sAndy,

Those quotes from your posts that RFV posted are despicable. You are in fact one of the worst people I’ve ever had the misfortune to come across.

You most assuredly are going to h-e-l-l.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

Would anybody else like the chore of having to explain to this stupid ward of the state that just because they weren’t on the plane doesn’t mean they couldn’t have participated, hell, bin Laden wasn’t on the plane and he seems to be getting some credit, you moron:

* It is the little-discussed original indictment of bin Laden, obtained by the Justice Department in spring 1998 — several weeks before the embassy bombings and at a time when the government thought it would be prudent to have charges filed in the event an opportunity arose overseas to apprehend bin Laden. Paragraph 4 of that very short indictment reads:*

Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezballah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.

Since you are so utterly clueless, it only seems right for you too spew some hate with your posts, the only thing you are good at.

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

If he’d stuck with cleaning up Afghanistan and killing Osama, instead of mindlessly concentrating on WMD and Al Qaeda free Iraq, he would have successfully cut off Medusa’s head and WE’D BE SAFE!!!

Seeker,

Iraq was not Al Qaeda free, but in any case once we moved into Afghanistan they immediately fled, and moved to…Iraq. What a freaking coincidence! That was before we deposed Hussein and they became radicalized.

(Of course the Taliban Ambassador managed to flee to the U.S. right into the arms of Yale University, but that’s just one snake that sprang from your Medusa’s head.)

The Taliban in Afghanistan in 2001? The ones who blew up all the ancient statues, and turned the country into a 5th century hell hole? That was before they became radicalized.

Ignoring Medusa’s head has allowed the head to grow new snakes. It’s growing new snakes every day. All these snakes want to kill us.

Would you mind directing that comment to Bill Clinton, Madeline Albright, and Sandy Burlar? Because Bin Laden issued his fatwas to kill American, Jews and infidels in 1996 and 1998. He wanted us to get out of…Iraq! What a coincidence. Of course that was before Muslims became radicalized.

Then we had the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was planned by Iraqi Ramzi Yousef (what a coincidence) and co-conspirators like Sheik Abdul Rahman, all carried out before Muslims became radicalized.

Add to that Al Qaeda attacks in Kenya, Tanzinia, Somalia, U.S.S Cole, et cetera, all under Bill Clinton - before Muslims became radicalized.

Bin Laden’s first fatwa was in 1989 against Salman Rushdie for The Satanic Verses, but that was before he became radicalized.

Indeed, I could write a term paper on all the bad acts by Islamist before they became radicalized.

Bush is an idiot. You and his supporters are idiots.

Whatever, dude. Next time run it by Pequod to see it it’s okay to use immoderate speech.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

Well, “Where’s the beef?” (and the IRAQI’s).

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (Mastermind of 9/11 Attack): Pakistani

Shucks, I was sure that this guy must have been it. Could Cheney/Bush really be full of it? Naw?!?!?

Andy (AKA Liberals Suck And Lie, AJC Promotes Hate And Racism, etc.): 2/18 (10:24p) Referring to N GA’s disabled daughter: “I’ll come by to help your daughter later, Sissy, after you fallen into a drunken stupor. She needs a real man, anyway.; 4/26 (10:04a) “Birmingham abortion clinic, former nurse Emily Lyons gets $57.69 in “victim” restitution. They should have paid Eric Rudolph, given him a service medal, and sent him back out to get some more of these baby butchers.” Those are most certainly the Republican Family Values that I know so well.

By Hiram

April 28, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

TurdBlossom Jr.,

Please spell out what mess had to be cleaned up when your beloved Bush ascended to the White House.

I say there was no mess. Just projected Budget Surpluses for as far as the eye could see.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

Cripes. Where’s Waldo (and the IRAQI’s)? Maybe this is the one:

Ayman al-Zawahri(al Qaeda ‘s #2 man): Egyptian

Heck, Cheney/Bush DID say “IRAQI’s” didn’t they?

Andy (AKA Liberals Suck And Lie, AJC Promotes Hate And Racism, etc.): 2/18 (10:24p) Referring to N GA’s disabled daughter: “I’ll come by to help your daughter later, Sissy, after you fallen into a drunken stupor. She needs a real man, anyway.; 4/26 (10:04a) “Birmingham abortion clinic, former nurse Emily Lyons gets $57.69 in “victim” restitution. They should have paid Eric Rudolph, given him a service medal, and sent him back out to get some more of these baby butchers.” Those are most certainly the Republican Family Values that I know so well.

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

RW-(Extra Extra Crispy)

Pardon my pointing out the blatantly obvious, but I have not seen anything to back up your assertion that ‘Republicans have to spend to make up for the screw ups of Democrats that preceded them’.

However, I have realized that a rambling, unsubstantiated rant (see quote above) like yours passes for a “fact” in the conservative world.

Is this all you have?

It’s the Competence, STUPID!!!

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

RPV,

Your rewriting history and rewriting what Bush said may work with your useful idiots, but one might conclude that you are insulting your fellow Leftists if you think they’re idiots. What’s it gonna be?

Islamic Radicals from all over the Middle East are responsible for 9/11.

When a Muslim terrorizes students with his SUV in Chapel Hill, NC we’re not allowed to mention that he is a Muslim.

Or when Islamic youth riot in France, we’re not supposed to mention that they’re Islamic youth.

Or when Islamic youth go on a rape spree in Australia and set off riots by fed-up non-Muslims, we’re not allowed to mention that the Islamic youth are serial rapists.

Multi-Cultural Family Values?

By Scooter

April 28, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

RFV, the first quote is attributable to Andy, the second one was a jacker.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

Well, “Where’s the beef?” (and the IRAQI’s).

Saddam Hussien (Financier of 9/11 Attack): Iraqi! Here they are!

Shucks, I was sure too slow and stupid to put together the obvious. Cheney/Bush are the greatest? Yes!!!!

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Hiram has been around for what, 2 days, but he knows everything, and don’t you dare challenge him on that!

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

Hiram,

If you’d been here for more than 2 days you would know that RE is the expert on what America is supposed to do when problems arise around the world that demand our attention.

The answer is: We can’t act without the U.N.s permission.

M.L., the Pultzer Patriot, should know that and shouldn’t have scribbled his latest cartoon without checking with RE first.

By Dusty

April 28, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

Republican Family Values,

You have no values of any kind as far as I can see. You are nothing but a producer of propaganda.

You are making accusations about something that was never written, a specific four letter word I won’t repeat. Interpretations don’t count. Then you repeat something that was posted by an imposter, not by the one you repeatedly accuse.

The terrorists of 9/11 were Muslim extremists. We are fighting Muslim terrorists/extremists every day in Iraq. Does that matter at all to you? NO. You want to fight conservative Americans.

Do us all a favor and stop your personal extremism on this blog. THAT we would appreciate.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

U.S. Economy Still Expanding at Rapid Pace By DAVID LEONHARDT and VIKAS BAJAJ, New York Times April 28, 2006

Gas prices are rising, as are mortgage rates. House prices in many once-hot markets have started slipping. The American automobile industry shows no sign of recovery. And the paychecks of most workers have not even kept up with inflation over the last four years.

Yet the national economy continues to speed ahead, with families and businesses spending money at an impressive pace. Forecasters expect the Commerce Department to report this morning that the economy grew at a rate of around 5 percent in the first quarter, the biggest increase since 2003.

Won’t be long before they have to admit Iraq is going good too.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Jeez, where did all those rotten IRAQI terorists go? Oh, the liberal wanker pinkos must have released something into our drinking water that won’t let us see the word IRAQI anymore.

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (reputed beheader of Nicholas Berg, captured and “accidently” released 2004): Jordanian

Shucks, this guy wasn’t IRAQI either. That must be why they released him after his capture!

Andy (AKA Liberals Suck And Lie, AJC Promotes Hate And Racism, etc.): 2/18 (10:24p) Referring to N GA’s disabled daughter: “I’ll come by to help your daughter later, Sissy, after you fallen into a drunken stupor. She needs a real man, anyway.; 4/26 (10:04a) “Birmingham abortion clinic, former nurse Emily Lyons gets $57.69 in “victim” restitution. They should have paid Eric Rudolph, given him a service medal, and sent him back out to get some more of these baby butchers.” Those are most certainly the Republican Family Values that I know so well.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

Does anyone else find it simply delightful to see a stupid, ward of the state liberal cutting and pasting fake posts from another stupid, ward of the state liberal and idiotically posting them like they belong to a Conservative?

Doesn’t it say it all about liberalism? The pinko media knows they can say anything and these gimp, cripple retards will fall for it hook, line and sinker. RFV just reinforces that fact.

what a chump, useful idiot.

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

Pequod,

When are you going to launch a formal complaint against Hiram for using “Turd Blossom, jr.” to address RW? I mean, it’s not even funny! Maybe he could give us a Google image link so it might make some sense too. What’s right is right.

LHU,

That question you directed to RW? See my 11:58 to Seeker, and you may find a clue to that mystery about Democrat inaction that you can’t solve yourself.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

RFV is an American suicide bomber, a freaking backwoods moron who has been brainwashed with pinko liberalism and doesn’t like what they hear, so they blow themselves up in the crowd. What a loser.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

LHU,

The military had been cut and ignored throughout the Clinton administration and the economy had slipped into recession under his last budget. Carter virtually wiped out the CIA, resigned himself to Soviet dominance, and his economic legacy consists of gas lines, 14% mortgage rates, and boom times for the sweater industry (so I guess it wasn’t all bad)

What is it with this game that all of you libs play? If someone provides links you say they can’t think for themselves and if they don’t they aren’t proving anything.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

Well, maybe the IRAQI terrorists were in with the wannabee hijackers:

Zacarias Moussaoui (self-styled aborted 5th Plane Hijacker): Morrocan

Bolux, can’t even find an IRAQI in the wannabees. Must be the water!

Andy (AKA Liberals Suck And Lie, AJC Promotes Hate And Racism, etc.): 2/18 (10:24p) Referring to N GA’s disabled daughter: “I’ll come by to help your daughter later, Sissy, after you fallen into a drunken stupor. She needs a real man, anyway.; 4/26 (10:04a) “Birmingham abortion clinic, former nurse Emily Lyons gets $57.69 in “victim” restitution. They should have paid Eric Rudolph, given him a service medal, and sent him back out to get some more of these baby butchers.” Those are most certainly the Republican Family Values that I know so well.

By MikeT

April 28, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Andy, who else have you victimized since giving me herpes?

By gadem

April 28, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

Andy, what proof do you have that Sadaam finacially supported the terrorists?

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

RPV,

You may want to read my 11;58 to Seeker also, as it connects a few dots to Iraq and Al Qaeda. Not to mention the fact that Iraq was a state sponsor of terrorism, and funded Teen suicide bombers to attack those mean Israelis.

Which of course you will ignore all the links because you don’t really care about the truth.

By gadem

April 28, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this

RW, what has Bush done to help the economy?

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

Iraqi Forces Kill Al Qaeda Leader- April 28, 2006

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

RW,

Under Clinton the military was cut by 17%. Not a cut in projected spending which is the kind of cut that liberals always get hysterical over.

Nope, an actual cut during his marvelous Presidency.

Come to think of it, I really want rushncap to tell us all the wondeful things that Clinton did, since he keeps asking the same question about Bush, and he still has 2 plus years to go.

By Dusty

April 28, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

You dazzle liberals with facts and they are blinded. Stumble around in the darkness. But maybe I am wrong. Maybe they just cannot read.

See, I am being nice today. No mention of brain-dead for the little rascals.

Hold the fort. I will be gone for the afternoon.

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

BD - thanks for pointing out your 11:58 posts. I encourage all here to reread this carefully.

One quick question since so many of your rants end with something to the affect of ‘before Muslims were radicalized.’

Please explain for the readers here exactly when Muslims ‘became radicalized.’

I am assuming your opinion is that Muslims around the world were not radicalized during the 80’s but suddenly morphed into a radical state sometime during the 90’s because of the Clinton administration.

Please explain yourself, this should be hilarious…

It’s The Competence, STUPID!!!

By gadem

April 28, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

Makes you go hmmmmm

By rushncap

April 28, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

Danish, your 11:58 post is complete BS. Total. There is not an iota of actual evidence for anything you claim.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

Let’s see, Moussaoui had a good buddy wannabee if memory serves correctly:

Richard Colvin Reid (shoe-bomber, accused by Moussaoui as 5th plane co-conspirator): British

That cinches it. It has to be those stinkin’ pinko liberal wankers at work again. They jacked the intelligence agencies, newspapers and loaded everyones water with some of that “SEE-NO-IRAQ” hallucinogen they take all the time. They’ve drugged us, that has to be it! Dirty commie pinko rats.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

gadim:

Though many will discount the news as sourced from Fox, the fact is that the unraveling of the “Oil for Food” scandal at the UN was bound to turn up links of Saddam’s money going to Al Qaida. One of the writers (Claudia Rosset) of the article below is beyond reproach regarding the UN scandal.

As I’ve pointed out on the radio show, In early 1996 bin Laden was broke, kicked out of Sudan, and hightailing it to Afghanistan. In late 1996, bin Laden was flush with cash, and declaring a holy war on the West.

Give it time. The Conservatives are always right.

By seeker

April 28, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

Danish,

For starters, Ramzi Yusef was Pakistani, not Iraqi. And you go downhill from there.

Idiot Bush would be sitting on his hands today about Al Qaeda if it weren’t for 9/11. He sure was sitting on his hands before then. He was at least as ignorant as Clinton and Albright.

Iraq didn’t become a terror training supermarket until after the US invasion. Saddam’s ego and cowardice had kept Al Quaeda in check until then. Your claim otherwise is false.

Until 9/11, Osama had been marginalized. When the US invaded Afghanistan, dumped the Taliban and tried to crush Al Quaeda, Osama was globally despised because of 9/11.

Then the idiot Bush made Iraq, with its holy sites and nearness to Saudia Arabia (but NO direct ties to 9/11 or Al Quaeda), a free fire recruiting zone for Islamic radicals. Osama’s prayers were answered. And a peripheral annoyance becomes a nexus of terror. Nice work. The snakes grow and multiply.

If the idiot Bush had left Iraq alone to dissolve internally, and concentrated on eliminating both the Taliban and Al Quaeda, and killing Osama, cutting off Medusa’s head, we’d be far safer today.

And would have saved lots of $$ and lots of American lives.

Idiot.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

Oil for Food May Have Funded 9/11 Attacks NewsMax.com ^ | 12/04/04 | Carl Limbacher

In what may be the most shocking news to emerge from the already stunning Oil for Food scandal, investigators say that Saddam Hussein bankrolled key al Qaida players in the late 1990s - a period of time when the terror group was planning the 9/11 attacks and the Iraqi dictator was ripping off billions from the U.N. program.

By gadem

April 28, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

Hmmmmmm

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

Elsewhere? One obvious “elsewhere” that no one seems to have seriously considered was Saddam’s secret geyser of money, gushing from the so-called Oil-for-Food program. That possibility is not discussed in the 9/11 report, and apparently it was not included in the investigation. A 9/11 Commission spokesman confirms that the commission did not request Oil-for-Food documentation from the U.N., and none was offered.

Why look at Oil-for-Food? Well, let’s review a little more history. When Saddam invaded Kuwait in 1990, the U.N. imposed sanctions, which remained in place until 2003, when the United States and its allies finally toppled Saddam. But in 1996, with the aim of providing for the people of Iraq while still containing Saddam, the U.N. began running its Oil-for-Food relief program for Iraq. Under terms agreed to by the U.N., Saddam got to sell oil to buy such humanitarian supplies as food and medicine, to be rationed to the Iraqi population. But the terms were hugely in Saddam’s favor. The U.N. let Saddam choose his own business partners, kept the details of his deals confidential, and while watching for weapons-related goods did not, as it turns out, exercise much serious financial oversight. Saddam turned this setup to his own advantage, fiddling prices on contracts with his hand-picked partners, and smuggling out oil pumped under U.N. supervision with U.N.-approved new equipment. Thus did we arrive at the recent General Accounting Office estimate that under Oil-for-Food, despite sanctions, Saddam managed to skim and smuggle for himself more than $10 billion out of oil sales meant for relief.

The U.S. Treasury Department, in its hunt for Saddam’s assets, is not looking specifically at Oil-for-Food, but has provided some of the most telling snippets of information. In April of this year, Treasury released a list of Saddam front companies its investigation has so far uncovered, including a major Oil-for-Food contractor in the UAE, Dubai-based Al Wasel & Babel. Along with trying to procure a sophisticated surface-to-air missile system for Saddam, Al Wasel & Babel did hundreds of millions’ worth of business with Baghdad under Oil-for-Food, and was just one of some 75 contractors authorized by the U.N. to deal with Saddam out of the UAE. (As it happens, the 9/11 Commission found that some of the hijackers’ funding flowed through the UAE, but working backward from the al Qaeda end, the trail eventually vanishes.)

From about 1998 on, Oil-for-Food became Saddam’s financial network, a system he gamed to produce huge amounts of illicit income, in partnership with folks who helped him hide and spend it. If some of that money was going to al Qaeda while Saddam was in power, it may still be serving as a terrorist resource today. Amid all the consternation over missed signals and poor coordination leading up to September 11, is it too much to ask that someone versed in terrorist finances, and able to access both the U.N. Oil-for-Food records and the documents squirreled away in Baghdad, take a look—an urgent, detailed, systematic look—at whether Saddam via his Oil-for-Food scams sent money to al Qaeda?

For such a deal, both Saddam and bin Laden had motive and opportunity. And if you read bin Laden’s 1998 fatwa with just a little bit of imagination, those mentions of Iraq, at that particular moment, in those particular ways, carry a strong whiff of what is known in our own society as product placement: a message from a sponsor.

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

RW-(Crispy)

The Clinton administration inherited an economy in recession and its economic policies led to the longest continuous expansion of the US economy in the history of the country. The Clinton administration came to office facing record deficits and turned them into record surpluses (for Bush to Squander).

Clinton left the country in better shape than he got it.

Bush will be leaving his successor with record deficits (just like his Daddy), a perpetual quagmire in Iraq, an empowered Iran, a more dangerous North Korea, etc., etc. etc.

The Democratic administration that has to come in and clean up Bush’s messes is truly going to be facing a challenge.

It’s the Competence, STUPID!!

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

Oil-for-Terror? There appears to be much worse news to uncover in the Oil-for-Food scandal.

By Claudia Rosett

Beyond the billions in graft, smuggling, and lavish living for Saddam Hussein that were the hallmarks of the United Nations Oil-for-Food program in Iraq, there is one more penny yet to drop.

It’s time to talk about Oil-for-Terror.

Especially with the U.N.’s own investigation into Oil-for-Food now taking shape, and more congressional hearings in the works, it is high time to focus on the likelihood that Saddam may have fiddled Oil-for-Food contracts not only to pad his own pockets, buy pals, and acquire clandestine arms — but also to fund terrorist groups, quite possibly including al Qaeda.

By rushncap

April 28, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

Amen, seeker. All very well put. And, unlike what a lot of people post here, basically all true.

Guess where this wahhabist, jihadist impetus came from, originally? Come on, Danish, 3 guesses. If you guessed “the unwarranted, illegal invasion of an Islamic country — Afghanistan — which became the focal point of fundamentalism Islam”, you would be right. So I will assume that you did not guess that. Now try to guess who recently illegally invaded an Islamic country. Go agead, try.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

gadem,

I know we’ve done this little dance before and everything I say you will then say was either bad or can’t be attributed to the President, but I’ll throw you a bone.

The short answer is that tax cuts softened the Clinton recession and set economic conditions for the massive growth we are experiencing now. If you can’t make it in this economy you have to be actively trying to be a failure.

Domestic spending is something I think is way out of control, but you can certainly make a case that it helps the economic picture.

Keeping the tax cuts in place and looking for more ways to cut taxes are a long term pro-growth policy. The spending is a short term thing that can turn on us and become a drain so it needs to be reigned in. This is where tax cuts can help by starving the beast, so to speak.

The golf course is calling, see you all later.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

What has unravelled so far, is not only troubling, but goes some way in explaining why certain European countries, such as France and Germany, were so opposed to a change in status quo concerning Iraq. And the traces of ties to the funding of Al Quaeda are there.

We knew definitively, that Hussein had been sending money to Palestinians in support of their anti-Israel activities. That PLO widows and families benefitted from Saddams money, which he took from the Oil For Food funds alone, demonstrated his funding of terrorism. But there is more, much more to suggest his involvement in other terrorist funding, including Al Qaeda.

Clandestine bank accounts set up in Lichtenstein and Panama, were already under scrutiny as banks known to be affiliated with terrorist funding. In Lugano, Switzerland, a shell company MIGA: Malaysian Swiss Gulf and African Chamber sits next door to the bank. This company is one that both the UN and the US state is used as a central point for Al Qaeda to promote terrorism.

Because of the secrecy surrounding Swiss banking laws, following the trail is difficult, but not impossible. Here is what Claudia Rossett ( Rosett is a senior fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democraciesand an adjunct fellow at the Hudson Institute. ) and George Russell discovered:

But even with that secrecy — and shortly after the Sept.11, 2001, attacks on the United States — both MIGA and its chief founder and longtime president, Ahmed Idris Nasreddin, landed on the U.N. watchlist of entities and individuals belonging to, or affiliated with Al Qaeda.

Nasreddin is a member of the terror-linked Muslim Brotherhood. Nasreddin’s longtime business partner, Egyptian-born Youssef Nada, also of the Muslim Brotherhood, likewise appears on the U.N.’s Al Qaeda watchlist, as do a slew of both Nasreddin’s and Nada’s enterprises. Former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill in August 2002 described Nada and Nasreddin as “supporters of terrorism” involved in “an extensive financial network providing support to Al Qaeda and other terrorist-related organizations.”

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Some of the stolen money was also used to fund international terrorism. For example, $74 million went directly to Hamas. Nor were Palestinian terrorists the sole beneficiaries of diverted Oil-for-Food money. According to a June 2003 investigative report by the Forward, a liberal New York-based newspaper, revenue from the program may also have found its way to al-Qaeda. The report noted that among Iraq’s oil clients since 1997 was a Liechtenstein-based company called Galp International Trading Establishment. Citing business records obtained from Liechtenstein, the paper reported that the company’s legal representative in that country was a company called Asat Trust. The finding was significant: Both the United States and the UN had previously identified Asat Trust as a financier of al-Qaeda. The connection centered on the company’s links to al-Taqwa, an international financial network headquartered in Switzerland. Operated by members of the Islamist terrorist group the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Taqwa has incurred sanctions from the UN Security Council for its continued support of al-Qaeda. The director of al-Taqwa, Egyptian banking magnate Youssef Nada, has reportedly funneled his considerable assets—secreted in European tax havens—to terrorist groups like al-Qaeda and Hamas. American officials further charge that Nada personally saw to it that al-Qaeda received financial assistance, both before and after the terrorist attacks of September 11. Lending additional support to the charge are the 1996 findings of the Italian counter-terrorism agency, the Division of General Intelligence and Special Operations. The agency disclosed that al-Taqwa had bankrolled a host of Islamist terrorism groups, including Hamas, the Algerian Armed Islamic Group, and the Egyptian group Gamaa Islamiya. The latter organization was incorporated into al-Qaeda in 1998.

By finch

April 28, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

RW,

Hindsight has been used by Bush supporters as a tactic against the Clinton administration for years.

Therefore, it’s certainly legitimate to use hindsight to criticize President Bush.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

gadim: Anything else you need from me? Good, cause I’m out of here for a little bit, don’t believe anything you hear from me for a while.

By rushncap

April 28, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

Jesus Christ, li’l andy, stop spamming. Just post a g******* link, so that whoever wants to read this BS can.

By gadem

April 28, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

Andy, OBL was never broke as the article states. His citizenship was revoked by Saudi Arabia, but you have to remember that he is a multi millionaire. Don’t believe everything that you read that is an opinion and posted as fact. I hardly think that 300,000 supposedly given in 1998 would still be around to be used to finance 9/11….I find it hard to believe that the estimates are roughly 300,000…just makes you go hmmmmm

By rushncap

April 28, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

LOL, andy, we don’t believe anything we hear from you while you’re here, so what’s the difference?

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

Hmmmm….

RW (Crispy) and the deranged moron both excusing themselves at the same time.

Keep your little hands off each other. This is how rumors get started, fellas…

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

Today’s economic growth is NOT being funded by the paltry tax cuts under Cheney/Bush. It is being funded through the MASSIVE $9 trillion dollar national debt that has been mostly accumulated under Cheney/Bush. It’s not too difficult to run a good looking balance sheet if you don’t look at how much you have borrowed to create it! Cheney/Bush well know and use the effect of borrowed war-bucks to falsely pat themselves on the back. The REAL difficulty comes when our children’s children’s children have to pay it off.

By Scooter

April 28, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

Rushncap, you are not exactly the big provider of links, nor are many other “intelligentsia” on this blog. So I don’t know that you should be talking too much?

By finch

April 28, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Have you noticed that whenever Andy’s backed into a corner, his posts get longer and more shrill? And his links go from mainstream to hate-sites like freeper republic?

I don’t know why anybody bothers stealing his various names. He does more damage to himself than any jacker.

By Kevin

April 28, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

finch, I guess I saw it differently. It’s unusual for Andy to cut and paste lengthy text. Usually it’s a link and a personal comment.

Maybe he wanted to respond but needed to go somewhere. Cutting and pasting would have been quicker. I didn’t see any shrillness on his part. He didn’t even follow up with a comment.

I’m off too. Hope you didn’t find my post shrill.

By rushncap

April 28, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

I provide links when they are required, Scooter. And, unlike the one you provided, they are relevant to what I’m talking about.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

Bush Says Anthem Should Be in English

Anybody notice that King George had to clarify his position on this one?

**Captain obvious to the rescue!!

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

Bush Rejects Tax on Oil Companies’ Profits

Who could possibly have guessed that the BIG GOVERNMENT President would protect his BIG OIL buddies rather than the American citizenry?

By getalife

April 28, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

Have you ever noticed that the conservatives here seem to suffer from multiple personality disorder.

Speaking of nuts.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

Bush Backs Dubai Firm’s Plant Operations 4/28/06

Osama bin Bush sure is intent on putting US security interests in the hands of the UAE isn’t he?

By Huge

April 28, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

These right-wing fanatics can’t seem to make any intelligent comments or contribute to a discussion without childish name-calling.

LB, Of course, you are absolutely corrct, but in this insane asylum it makes no difference.

Here is a challenge. Write a post in which you state a conclusion, give an argument for it, and refrain from calling anyone names. Just evidence for a thesis, no abuse, nothing which is not relevant to your claim. (Just pretend you’re writing a college paper for example, if you went to college.)

Pequod is also dead on with this, but to both of you, let me offer my experiences.

Some days ago, I took on this established verbal hate-culture solo. I made a very strong case, using facts and quotes that were not debateable, that the discourse is, for the most part, absolutely juvenile and filthy to the core here. In my opinion it would be much more enlightening, much more useful and infinetly more fun without the childishness and name calling predominating so. I was absolutely flamed for it and called everything you can imagine. Shortly thereafter, the usual suspects, as they are want to do, hijacked the term and used it for more childish point scoring. The worst offenders only know one thing - attack!

Andy, is THE resident on-line psychopath. Think of him as a kind of Ann Coulter with tourettes. (I say this simply as a matter of fact and have no malice towards him as a person) He has several political “associates” who are intelligent, more disciplined and somewhat reasonable, but will NEVER, EVER find fault with his disgusting behavior. Others, yes, but never his. (One, even asked for 5 or 10 examples of Andy’s hate speech!!! I am not kidding you.) And worse yet, when challenged to take a stand against his churlishness, actually take it up themselves!

There are numerous anti-rightwingers here who inevitably take his bait and join him in the never ending, always escalating war of words. They too will blast him and his supporters, but NEVER their own.

Both of you seem like normal, intelligent bloggers, Be warned, there is very little room for that kind here. You will as @@ explained to me once, never change someone’s opinion (like who wants to?). And you will be excoriated for voicing your opinions to the contrary.

This is OUR on-line community. many of the GOPers absolutely hate the AJC and ML, but can’t stay away either. Strange, to me, but hey, it’s a free country (still).

Just as in our society at large, progressives and moderates are drowned out by the shrill screaming of the extremists on BOTH sides. No wonder, our leaders seem so intolerant. Look at us, those who elect them.

By Pequod

April 28, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this

RW,

I only know that someone took this name (Pequod) once and posted some silliness in my place.

You did exactly what I expected. No argument, just personal attack. Hence, nothing of content to respond to.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

Judge Won’t Dismiss Case Against Libby

Well the bright side for Republiscum is that “Scooter” should have plenty of time to write another porn novel or two while he’s in the BIG HOUSE (no this one is not the one on Pennsylvania Avenue)!

By Pequod

April 28, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this

Huge,

You are absolutely right. If one politely asks for the civility and respect that any human being is due, and any decent human being willingly gives, one is savaged for it. I too had my name hijacked.

Well, it is obvious enough that the “talk show” culture model of political discourse predominates here. I have a few conservative colleagues who are worth listening to, will listen to other views, instead of immediately shutting down and going into the personal attack mode when they hear a different opinion on anything, and I will have to remain with them to hear what intelligent, open minded, conservatives think.

By Midori

April 28, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

I’m having just a marvelous time reading this blog today.

A very special “hello” and thumbs up to:

Getalife Finch Seeker Rushncap Pequod Huge Lord Help Us Ga Dem

You guys are doing a fabulous job.

Maybe if you keep hitting them with the truth, something will sink in.

By Craig

April 28, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Pequod-I followed this back to find this personal attack on you from Rw. This is what I found.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

Pequod,

I guess it’s possible that you really aren’t one of the regulars using a different name. One thing that happens here frequently is that a new name shows with exactly the same arguments as someone from the past and immediately gets in the face of the people here that try to stay with the same name.

You fit that profile to a tee, but if I’m wrong I apologize for that. As for the claim of brilliance and superiority, you are right that you didn’t literally make the claim, but you most certainly implied it.

I am usually fairly civil as the blog world goes, but I guess one thing I am right about is that you only see things from one side

Dude if that’s what you call a personal attack you better stick to friendly chat rooms.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

Huge- It is my opinion that Andy and possibly a couple of his fellow swift-boaters on this blog are Republican shills who are paid to disrupt any source of information that is damaging to their cause. This would seem paranoid and delusional if they hadn’t been caught and convicted of similar actions.

By Kevin

April 28, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

Right now you guys have the perfect opportunity to have that rational discussion that you so desperately desire. What do you spend your time doing? Criticizing the opposition in their absence.

Isn’t that ironic? Nobody has the right to tell anybody how to deliver their message.

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

Seeker,

I’ll be happy to play your little game, the only difference being that I will back my claims up with those inconvenient things called facts. READ THIS:

The ringleader of the bombers, Ramzi Yousef, arrived in America on an Iraqi passport, and was nicknamed “Rashid the Iraqi” by the radical terrorists he joined in New York. The moment Yousef arrived; he directed the group to target the World Trade Center and how to do it. After the bombing, the second ringleader, an Iraqi, Abdul Rahman Yasin (whose expertise was essential for mixing the sophisticated chemicals we discussed) fled to, and was protected by, Saddam’s regime in Iraq. ABC News spotted him in Baghdad in 1994 and learned he was being paid by the regime.

After the bombing Yousef fled the country under a false identity, Abdul Basit Karim, a Pakistani national originally born in Kuwait…How do we know that Abdul Basit and Ramzi Yousef are the same person? Mylroie shows the obvious signs that the passport of Abdul Basit was tampered and explains that fingerprints matching Yousef’s was found in Abdul Basit’s police file. The altered passport was used by Yousef in 1992 to receive another passport to Pakistan in Abdul Basit’s name.

You can read more fascinating details here

Moreover, One of the things that they discovered in the recent motherlode of documents in Iraq was the record of a $100,000 from Saddam Hussein to Ayman Al Zawahiri. What a coincidence!

Now you can call me an idiot all you want, but just saying it doesn’t make it true.

I won’t even bother addressing your other misinformation. What I’ve just posted is enough for me to know who has the facts and who doesn’t in your little propaganda game.

By Steve SC

April 28, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

While the denizens of this blog are (as usual)shrieking at each other, here’s something to ponder about the state of the world. Iraq is a mess now. Iran could become one soon. Darfur is one big ongoing atrocity. Personal prediction: Either Nigeria or Pakistan (possibly both) will blow up soon. The first one is a major oil producer; the second one has both nuclear weapons and a horde of terrorists. If we have problems now, God help us if either of these states falls apart.

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

That would be the Soviet Union - which if I understand you correctly is somewhere in the vicinity of your homeland.

finch,

You’re amazing. You trust rushncap, but won’t give Freepers the time of day, despite the FACT that they back their info up with FACTs, something that rushncap rarely, if ever does.

DavidU,

I’ve been trying to get through to Bill Frist’s office all day, but the number is busy, busy, busy. I hope that it is because thousands of fed up Republicans such as myself are giving him hell for his insulting $100.00 rebate proposal.

I think I’m going to start my own personal campaign to get a new Senate Majority leader, because clearly Frist sucks at the job. This attempted vote buyout is just the last straw in 2 years of poor management.

Gotta run! Catch you all later!

By RE

April 28, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

BD, frist is going to step down soon, he is not running for reelection this year. Save your money. Besides, no telling which party is going to control the senate after the 06 election, most likely the GOP, but who knows.

By RE

April 28, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Funny toon about the 06 elections

By rushncap

April 28, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

What have I not backed up with facts, Danish? Name one thing, besides the one thing I apologized for.

And, good guess Danish. Now tell us all how the Iraq war for the U.S. is different from the Afghan war for the U.S.S.R., and why exactly we should expect different results.

By RE

April 28, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this

dem vs gop in 06, the battle

By RE

April 28, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

Anyone know how the GOP is going to brand itself this election cycle, the party of family values seems like it will be a hard sell. The party of fiscal responsibility or small government seem unlikely as well. Any ideas?

By Scooter

April 28, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

Rushncap, the difference between US in Iraq and U.S.S.R. in Afghanistan was; in Afghanistan is where UBL’s fighters became experienced, as well as trained and intelligent democrats want us to go again to hunt UBL. I guess the argument is once UBL is turned into a martyr, we will see a decrease in the creation of terrorist from the REGION that attacked us? The later is in Iraq were a crazy dictator violated over a dozen UN Resolutions, and never fully cooperated with inspectors but the UN had “it” under control. But now only Uncle Sam can help Dafur, “One Person”^^^^^^.

Unfortunately for us, and the lefts love hate relationship with the UN, we are now going to be caught in the unworkable UN Security Council. So, it is possible that no “legal” war could ever be fought so long as four countries have veto power on the security council. Bush tries to send a reformer to the UN and which patriots fought that?

Also rushncap, the PBS link to the Wall Street Fix(^^^^^ there) was for someone else who was saying Clinton left a clean and uncorrupted economy that predicted budget surpluses for as long as the eye could see. The projector of economic eye sight was asking for links to show that Clinton’s great economic boom wasn’t as much of his doing as it was the creation of a new technology and medium for business, so I gave a link in a post to you, about links, see the common thread links?

Perhaps Buy Danish will give you her answer when she returns?

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

My goodness, I’m gone for a few hours and the libs keep on talking about me. Why am I the most important thing in their useless shallow little lives? Am I that devastating to your BS that you must fret and worry over me so much?

Speaking of devastating to your BS, I just came from Flight 93 and don’t worry, I’m not going to ruin it for those of you planning to see it. I just want to say that when you leave the theater you will have no doubts about what, not who, what we are fighting in this war on terror. And you will look upon the people who defend it in a whole new way, you will see them as the truly small people that they really are.

Another strong message from this movie is that we did have our heads up our as-ses that day, it came from the blue onto a people that were not ready for it. But has anything changed? I would like to think we won’t hesitate if it should happen again but it is not very comforting to know that we still sue airlines, the same airlines that lost people, planes and passengers, for searching more than 2 male Arabs per flight. Why? For hurt feelings? At the risk of losing more life?

The last thought is of those passengers and how they did not deserve what was given to them. I wish I could say more.

By DavidU

April 28, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

BD- Since there is no Senate session today, Frist must be sitting there staring at all the calls from Rep, questioning where exactly he’s going with this voucher deal. Going to be a long weekend for him.

Andy- I’ve heard great things about the effect of the movie on people, along the lines of “Passion of the Christ”. Same type of heavy emotions that consumes the whole theater.

By RE

April 28, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

Our actions in Afganistan were justified and supported by a large majority of this country and the world. When we went into Iraq, the support disapeared. The UN is never easy to work with, and often quite faulted in it’s actions or lack there of, but until you can come up with a better solution, we are stuck with it. I think we will need the UN in the future, and efforts to walk away from it now are shortsighted. Iraq was a country that could never threaten the US militarily or economicaly. Iran is in much the same situation, it is a minor threat to our country. Hysterics over nukes going off in our cities weilded by terrorists are not going to be allayed by an invasion into iran. The largest nuclear proliferator so far has been Pakistan, which has supplied nuclear weapon technology to N Korea, Lybia, and Iran. They have working nukes and are one coup away from being in the control of the taliban.

The larger issue that should be a concern is the formation of a new coalition to counter US presence. You can see China and Russia working together already to build alliances in asia. They are now protecting Iran and gaining allies as fast as the US is losing them. Between the preemptive war in iraq and the numerous treaties that this administration has violated or broken, the US is not held with the same amount of trust as it once had. Who could have forseen the rise of the Warsaw pact countries back in the 50s, and what was done to prevent that. I see a much more ominous pact between China, Russia and all the countries that distrust and seek protection from the US being formed. That coalition would be a real threat to our country, much more so than an oil rich dictator. By walking away from the UN, I think we have much less power if such a coaliton arises.

By Scooter

April 28, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

RE, “The UN is never easy to work with, and often quite faulted in it’s actions or lack there of, but until you can come up with a better solution, we are stuck with it.”?

Why do I have to come up with the solution, I don’t claim to be any sort of expert on building international agencies? John Bolten seemed like a good nominee to encourage the UN to become a more freedom encouraging world body. It was the Democrats who were screaming about sending such a confrontational delegate to a lethargic institution that empowered tin pot dictators and needed reform. Was capitulation their answer?

Then you go on to explain to me that the world is screwed up? Well duhh.

Your litany of things to worry about in the world was a bummer for a Friday. But, are you saying there should be no “big dog” in the world, or do you think it shouldn’t be us? How many billion people are on this planet and how many nations or terrorist groups out there want power or religious control over them? The idealism of peace on earth is pleasant for the mind but unfitting with reality and humans

You temporarily bummed me out but I can’t stay that way on a Friday night. Perhaps I will see some of you and the festival tomorrow? My Friday “Scotch on the Rocks” is around the corner.

By seeker

April 28, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

Danish,

Your 3:12 post has facts? I don’t think so.

It links to a site called ‘probush.com’.

This site contains links with names like “Official Al Gore is a Dick Page”.

And “John Fairy Kerry”.

But no links to substantiate any argument that Saddam’s Iraq was some ‘nexus of terror’. None.

That’s when I stopped reading. No credibility whatsoever. Try again when you can come up with sources that don’t reek of prejudgements, blatant agendas, and outright lies, and instead contain real evidence.

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

It wasn’t a guess, any more than my knowledge that Ramsi Yousef was an Iraqi was a guess.

The Soviets invaded Afghanistan in December 1979 during Jimmy Carter’s and Leonid Brezhnev’s respective presidencies. The events leading up to this are too complicated to go into.

The Soviets announced their withdrawal in February 1989. (As an aside, Carter was reportedly shocked that the Soviets invaded - just another lost delusion). The Soviets unsuccesfully battled the Afghans for 10 years, with the loss of 15,000 Soviet and 1 million Afghanistan lives.

Many people argue that our assistance to the Afghan resistance wore the Soviets down, and cost them so much, that it contributed to the end of the Cold War.

The U.S. led invasion of Afghanistan was in October 2001 as a response to the 9/11 attacks. Bin Laden had been operating his terror camps their since 1996. With the help of the Northern Alliance, the Taliban were toast by December, although they are attempting to regroup.

Which gets us to the part where I suppose you see no difference between what the Soviets face and what we face.

I would disagree in that our military action is clearly superior to the Soviets, who got nowhere in their 10 years there. For that reason alone, we can expect different results, although we can reasonably expect to be there for the long hard slog that Rumsfeld speaks of.

I’m sure you want me to mention that through the CIA we armed the Mujahadeen, particularly the Pashtun tribes, who eventually became Bin Laden’s hosts.

What else do you want?

By Scooter

April 28, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

Seeker, i’ll go first.](http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/iraq/war.htm) Now you.

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Seeker,

I’ll be happy to provide you with more links, although fingerprints are usually considered reliable evidence by forensic experts all over the world.

Look here

Or here, which has source after source available for you to view

This should keep you busy for awhile.

I’m trying to find the $100,000 check source. May have been ABC news - that right wing org that works for Bush’s minions.

Gotta run again. Later…

By rushncap

April 28, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

Of course your “knowledge” that Ramzi Yousef (whose name you misspelled) was Iraqi is… drumroll please… wrong! Don’t believe me? Check here. He used a fake Iraqi passport, but he was not Iraqi. Don’t you do even the most cursory check before you blab, Danish? Or does that cramp your style?

And, of course Danish, you type much, but your reading comprehension is, well, about as poor as just about everything else. I was comparing Soviet invasion of Afghanistan with U.S. invasion of Iraq. Apparently that was lost on you. To reiterate: both were unwarranted and illegal. Both spurred to action radical Muslims from around the world. Both further radicalized Muslims in the region. Both have become training and recruiting grounds for terrorists, which there were not before. Are there differences? Sure. But there are also too many similarities for my liking. The Afghan war cost the USSR so much. I just hope the same does nt happen here.

By DavidU

April 28, 2006 06:17 PM | Link to this

Five members of the U.S. Congress were arrested on Friday at a demonstration held at the Sudan embassy to protest atrocities in that country’s Darfur region, congressional aides said.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 06:28 PM | Link to this

Ethnically profiling Arab Muslims as a group of fanatics bent on some sort of global holy war against non-believers might play well in the sticks, but back here in the real world (New York, Los Angeles), everyone knows that the religious fanatics we really have to worry about are the white Christian ones. Like Timothy McVeigh and … and all the other ones, too. For United 93 to be realistic at least half of the hijackers should have been white, red-state Christians, preferably pro-life fanatics, End-Timers, or—at the very least—Promise Keepers. Far as I’m concerned, making a movie in today’s modern world that portrays Muslim Arabs as murderous fanatics is nothing short of a hate crime.

By Midori

April 28, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this

Rush Limbaugh has just been arrested!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Republican House of Cards come tumbling down.

Bunch of freaking crooks!!

By getalife

April 28, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

Looks like Rush got busted again this morning according to the AJC.com.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this

A recent poll offers lawmakers a glimpse of how they might transcend the decades-old tension between energy and environmental concerns. “Virtually all Americans surveyed (90 percent),” reports Daniel Yankelovich, the chairman of the polling group Public Agenda, “said they see the United States’ lack of energy independence as jeopardizing the country’s security.”

“Stand on a high place in the lower Florida Keys,” he concluded, “and [someday] you may see an oil rig, and it will not be ours. It could be Red China’s…and they are drilling in our backyard.”

I’ll bet China will sell us some of that oil.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 06:42 PM | Link to this

I’ll play!!! The Russian invasion of Afghanistan was for conquest while our invasion of Iraq was for liberation. TA DA!

What do I win?

By Wamily Walues

April 28, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this

We Republicans are the party of Wamily Walues.

By Scooter

April 28, 2006 06:50 PM | Link to this

Well upon reflection that last link didn’t work, so I’ll try a different.

By @@

April 28, 2006 06:51 PM | Link to this

More on the arrest of Limbaugh.

By Melanie Hunter CNSNews.com Senior Editor April 28, 2006 06:41 pm

Dating-Abuse Class Tells Kids to Rely on Peers, Not Parents

(CNSNews.com) - A curriculum dealing with dating abuse among teenagers was endorsed by two members of the U.S. Senate this week as a way to stop a “frightening and deadly cycle of children hurting children,” but the leader of a pro-family group called the program “a waste of school time” because it teaches teens to seek help from peers before turning to their parents. “Teen dating violence exists today in every community,” Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho) said during a news conference on Capitol Hill. “It is a precursor to adult domestic violence and has incredibly high social and economic costs for our society.” Full Story

MTV Head Touts Network’s Ability to ‘Inspire’ Youth

(CNSNews.com) - MTV has “empowered and educated” America’s youth for the last 25 years, said Christina Norman, president of MTV networks, who told an audience at the National Press Club Thursday that her organization’s role is to “inspire a generation.” “We take that very seriously,” she said. A spokeswoman from the culturally conservative Family Research Council (FRC) scoffed at Norman’s statements. FRC Vice President Charmaine Yoest, told Cybercast News Service that MTV is guilty of “pumping raw sewage into our culture” and said “having MTV celebrate themselves as the educators of youth is a little bit like the mafia going into gun safety training.” Full Story

Limbaugh Arrested on Prescription Drug Charges

(CNSNews.com) - Rush Limbaugh was arrested in Palm Beach, Fla., on Friday on prescription drug charges. The conservative radio talk show host turned himself into authorities on a warrant issued by the state attorney’s office, according to agency spokeswoman Teri Barbera. Limbaugh was released an hour after his arrest on $3,000 bond, his attorney said. The charge of fraud to conceal information to obtain prescription will be dropped within 18 months if Limbaugh can show that he has not become readdicted, his attorney said, Roy Black. “I am pleased to announce that the State Attorney’s Office and Mr. Limbaugh have reached an agreement whereby a single count charge of doctor shopping filed today by the State Attorney will be dismissed in 18 months,”

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

Meanwhile in the land of people that are actually elected to serve the public. I don’t know why he was worried, his office can’t successfully prosecute anyone anyway.

By RE

April 28, 2006 06:59 PM | Link to this

Scooter, sorry to bum you out on a friday. And no, I do not expect you to come up with another option aside from the UN, it was more of a general pluralistic type of you.

What I am saying is that power seeks balance. I do not advocate or wish that to be the case, but in general, there is always a balance to any system. In politics, we have the GOP and the dems, Coke or Pepsi, Cable or satellite. I am saying that there seems to be a coalition forming to be a balance to the US power with China and Russia. These are not two backwater 3rd world countries. The difference is that we are not generally viewed as the good guys in the world anymore, we do not keep our word with the treaties we sign, we initiate war. China is buying up strategic resources, Russia has tremendous undeveloped natural resources, and as we alienate countries, they may tend to look for protection from those countries from US intervention. This is still a few years down the road, but you can see the signs of it happening right now.

Have a good Friday, I know I am going to Taste of Marietta this weekend.

By @@

April 28, 2006 07:05 PM | Link to this

Did anybody watch Lou Dobbs on CNN just now? He was talking to a guy named Rodriguez who is helping to organize Monday’s illegal immigration boycott march. Which Mexico’s governing officials are coming to support BTW.

In response to Bush’s comment, “I don’t support boycotts. I support comprehensive legal immigration”. Rodriguez replied. “President Bush does not hold the moral ground on this issue. He invaded a country illegally for war”.

@@ said, “How long have your people been entering this country illegally Mr. Rodriguez?” “Long before the Iraq war.”

Sorry, that just needed to be aired.

By @@

April 28, 2006 07:09 PM | Link to this

Oops! Sorry. Too much information on the Limbaugh text but just skip over what’s above.

Well, the other stuff was kinda interesting too.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this

finch,

There is a huge difference in using hindsight to keep from making a new mistake and the way you use it. You use hindsight to claim you would have taken a different course of action. This would be believable if you ever offered that course of action in advance, but you don’t.

BTW, “you” in the preceding post is not necessarily “finch”. See RE for a definition.

Kevin,

That 3:02 observation of yours is an instant classic.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 07:20 PM | Link to this

SpecOps unit nearly nabs Zarqawi

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, al-Qaida’s leader in Iraq, is shown here in a video originally posted on Tuesday. He accused the West and the United States of waging a “crusader” war against Islam but said Muslim holy warriors were standing firm. The image was provided via the IntelCenter, a private contractor working for intelligence agencies.

Just nine days before al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi released his latest video, a special operations raid killed five of his men, captured five others and apparently came within a couple of city blocks of nabbing Zarqawi himself.

Then, the day Zarqawi’s video debuted, special ops forces killed 12 more of his troops in a second raid in the same town.

By getalife

April 28, 2006 07:21 PM | Link to this

My bad, it was on the same charge that he paid up $30,000 for a plea deal. He got out of jail in an hour. Here is what conservatives listen to and believe:

illegally deceived multiple doctorsto receive overlapping prescriptions.

By getalife

April 28, 2006 07:30 PM | Link to this

He must be a good liar because my doctors said I was hooked and would not refill my prescriptions.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 07:34 PM | Link to this

Pink has always been like one of my favorite colors, in the right situation, of course. Mash play to get a chill down your spine.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this

Limbaugh’s purchase of a $30,000 get out of jail card just goes to show you that Republicans still never take responsibility for any of their own actions, ever. Any bets that the dope head can stay clean (scratch that- keep from getting caught again) for even as short a time as 18 months? Lack of responsibility- more of those Republican Family Values at work!

By getalife

April 28, 2006 07:43 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I like Pink too

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this

Yup, ‘Not Guilty’ people always pay the state $30k for legal costs and agree to 18 months of drug addiction treatment.

If El Rushbo, with talent on loan from Oxycontin, were actually guilty, he probably would have had to pay a fine and agree to a recovery program. Oops, he did.

Oh well, you conservatives can still call that ‘not guilty’…You don’t have any credibility left anyway.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 07:47 PM | Link to this

Drudge On Limbaugh: Not Guilty

By @@

April 28, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

I didn’t hear anybody here say Rush was not guilty. I just wanted everyone to have all the details.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

So if we use this theory, Limbaugh was guilty because he paid a settlement, then Bill Clinton really did try to get Paula Jones to hum on it. And got rejected.

Cool.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

Rush Limbuagh arrested? Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy… unless it was Tom Delay… wait, it’s already happened to him… Unless it happened to Duke Cunningham… wait, it’s already happened to him… Unless it happened to Karl Rove… well, it’s about to happen to him… Unless it happened to George Bush… well, it should have happened to him. I’m soooo confused!!!

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 07:54 PM | Link to this

Rush got off cheap, but at least we can call Clinton guilty now. Thanks!

By Lord Help Us

April 28, 2006 07:54 PM | Link to this

Pink is awesome, but you can’t beat good old black and white

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this

Republican news flash- Bill Clinton likes the ladies.

Captain Obvious to the rescue!

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this

For all you slow, stupid, ward of the state liberals to ignorant to follow along, 7:53 was not mine.

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

I would like to talk about Bill Clinton’s sexual preferences. It’s the only way we can get the most obtuse of the conservatives (the remaining 32%) not to focus on the corruption in our party. Yes, it’s all Bill Clinton’s fault for having sex- terrorism, the failed war in Iraq, the economy, gas prices. Do you hear me? Bill Clinton had sex!

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this

8:01 was not mine. Your to ignorant. Piece of sh-it.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this

Pinko news flash! Limbaugh has extreme back pain!

Captain Dipsh-it to the rescue!

By @@

April 28, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this

I am objective. We need to wait for all the facts, or at least until the facts support Republicans. Invading Iraq because of WMD’s? We had plenty of evidence. Global warming? We need to study it more. Yes, I am an objective observer, just like FOX, the state media. (Did that sound socialist?)

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:17 PM | Link to this

For all you slow, stupid, ward of the state liberals too ignorant to follow along, 8:07 was not RW’s.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this

8:14 was not mine either. Pinko liberal.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 08:19 PM | Link to this

Name jacker: When you jack the low-life here, you just give them the excuse to disavow the outrageous statements that they often let slip out. Or maybe that is your goal?

Andy (AKA Liberals Suck And Lie, AJC Promotes Hate And Racism, etc.): 2/18 (10:24p) Referring to N GA’s disabled daughter: “I’ll come by to help your daughter later, Sissy, after you fallen into a drunken stupor. She needs a real man, anyway.; 4/26 (10:04a) “Birmingham abortion clinic, former nurse Emily Lyons gets $57.69 in “victim” restitution. They should have paid Eric Rudolph, given him a service medal, and sent him back out to get some more of these baby butchers.” Those are most certainly the Republican Family Values that we all know so well.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:20 PM | Link to this

Midori, the AJC’s top hate spreader, hear her speak:

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism April 28, 2006 08:10 PM 8:01 was not mine. Your to ignorant. Piece of sh-it.

When you gonna grow up, Midori?

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 08:22 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

How do you spell Bin Laden? Or is it Bin Ladin? Good, let’s get that out of the way.

You are right, I was in a rush so I misread your question to me. I easily can see why I did, because you claim with authority that the Iraq war is “illegal”. Your opinion dude. You’ve got RE on your side, so I guess that makes it official.

Meanwhile, the long, hard slog applies to Afghanistan, Iraq, and front on the war on terror, although I do not see Soviet Union redux (unless of course we choose to devote all our resources to finding Bin Laden, such as the Dems suggest).

Here’s a self-explanatory and post I made this morning at The Decider cartoon:

An Al Qaeda-esque group bombed a tourist resort in Egypt last week. Was that Bush’s fault too?

The idea that Muslims are being “further radicalized” because of our presence in Iraq is an opinion which I find laughable. Radicalized muslims are nothing new - we are just paying attention now - decades too late.

How much more radical can a bunch of people who think that their religion mandates that statues and ancient relics must be destroyed be? Or that believes in female circumcision? Or that teaches Muslim youth in Europe that its okay to rape infidels or Muslim women who aren’t sufficiently restrained in their dress? Or that is conducting genocide (and slavery) in Darfur? Or that teaches its people that Jews are pigs and monkeys? Or that teaches them that death and having sex with virgins (those lucky girls) is preferable to life? Or that hires children to blow themselves up in the name of Allah (thanks in part to the generosity of Saddam Hussein)? Or that teaches its believers that it is their duty to lie to infidels? Et cetera, et cetera.

But thanks to the Left we’ve been told that we can’t judge other religions and cultures because no one is better than anyone else. And if that culture and religion attacks the U.S., all the better because we deserve it.

Indeed, I give some of the conclusions reached by this State Department report about as much credence as I give to people who think that by raising taxes on Big Oil it will lower the price at the pump.

Finally, Bush has said all along that it is better to fight them on their home turf than here at home. If you believe the report, then isn’t that exactly what is happening?

I also posted all sorts of stuff to your soul mate, Seeker, which outlines just a few of the radical acts by Muslims before Bush took office.

The bottom line Mr. Rushncap is that Muslims have been radicalized since the time of Mohammed. The very nature of their religious and cultural beliefs are the polar opposites of the American ideals of life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

For someone who gets terribly indignant everytime I question your devotion to American values, you sure place a lot of blame on Americans for problems that date back to before we ever set foot on this continent.

I wouldn’t even blame Clinton for that.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:24 PM | Link to this

RFV: You announce your ignorance when you repeat the name jackers stupid posts or are you trying to operate on their level?

By Republican Family Values April 28, 2006 08:19 PM

Andy (AKA Liberals Suck And Lie, AJC Promotes Hate And Racism, etc.): 2/18 (10:24p) Referring to N GA’s disabled daughter: “I’ll come by to help your daughter later, Sissy, after you fallen into a drunken stupor. She needs a real man, anyway.; 4/26 (10:04a) “Birmingham abortion clinic, former nurse Emily Lyons gets $57.69 in “victim” restitution. They should have paid Eric Rudolph, given him a service medal, and sent him back out to get some more of these baby butchers.” Those are most certainly the Republican Family Values that we all know so well.

Lying liberals, accusing other people of hate that they spew.

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 08:28 PM | Link to this

RW,

You win a pitcher of Pina Coladas!

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:28 PM | Link to this

Midori keeps it up:

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism April 28, 2006 08:18 PM 8:14 was not mine either. Pinko liberal.

At least she wasn’t foul mouthed this time.

By dirty sanchez

April 28, 2006 08:29 PM | Link to this

I see “I Like to Suck off Liberals” is showing off his cut and paste prowess again or should I say still. I would hate to have nowhere to go day in and day out…

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:30 PM | Link to this

Andy= the raper of the handicapped.

By Eric Deming

April 28, 2006 08:31 PM | Link to this

Andy and Rushbo sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G, first comes love then come——-

ah heck they are ‘Brokeback Mountain’ in love. plain and simple, people accept it, be liberal about it and don’t judge them.

By rushncap

April 28, 2006 08:32 PM | Link to this

First of all, Danish, you refuse to admit that you were wrong. I hope that dishonesty does good word for Christ. Shame on you. I proved that you were wrong, you not only do not apologize, you do not even mention it. So sad. I’ve come to expect this low level of integrity from you, however. I feel bad for your children.

By Republican Family Values

April 28, 2006 08:34 PM | Link to this

See jacker? Suck is now even denying the “real man” post that he had admitted to earlier. The “Rudolph” post he consistently denies but since you seem to post liberal when you jack that denial sounds very shallow. Since he is obviously being jacked by you (or himself) it gives an opportunity for him to waffle. Why would a liberal want to give him that out?

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:34 PM | Link to this

I (Andy) will accuse people of being foul mouthed but I suggest that I’ll rape handicapped women, talk about spitting on soldiers, men ejaculating on one of the bloggers, and curse out everyone on here who disagrees with me. Can you say hypoc… No, it’s already too obvious.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:37 PM | Link to this

Translation:

By dirty sanchez April 28, 2006 08:29 PM

I see “I Like to Suck off Liberals” is showing off his cut and paste prowess again or should I say still. Waaaaaahhhhhh! I have no life and need, I’m talking about need to worry about what he’s doing. I’m so stupid, he has become my life. Be nice to me Andy, please, your all I have. Waaaahhhhh!!!!

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 08:40 PM | Link to this

Midori is losing her mind over me:

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism April 28, 2006 08:34 PM I (Andy) will accuse people of being foul mouthed but I suggest that I’ll rape handicapped women, talk about spitting on soldiers, men ejaculating on one of the bloggers, and curse out everyone on here who disagrees with me. Can you say hypoc… No, it’s already too obvious.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism April 28, 2006 08:30 PM | Andy= the raper of the handicapped.

They can’t live without me, I drive them crazy.

By Red right returning

April 28, 2006 08:41 PM | Link to this

Sanchez,

Have you got the lyrics to the Star Spangled Banner down yet or have you been too busy with your fabulous life to learn them? No, the Spanish language version does not count.

And to all of you who are so smug about Rush, I sincerely hope that if you end up in a lot of pain someday and have the strength to endure it without medication, or at the very least are capable of blithely throwing out your addictive meds with nary a care in the world.

By finch

April 28, 2006 08:44 PM | Link to this

RW,

You use hindsight to claim you would have taken a different course of action. This would be believable if you ever offered that course of action in advance, but you don’t.

Like so many “liberals”, I opposed the Iraq invasion in the months before the invasion. I saw it for what it was: a waste of time, money and lives, and an incredible diversion from real terrorists like Osama. You didn’t see it here because I wasn’t posting here.

So there.

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this

*By rushncap

April 28, 2006 08:32 PM | Link to this

First of all, Danish, you refuse to admit that you were wrong. I hope that dishonesty does good word for Christ. Shame on you. I proved that you were wrong, you not only do not apologize, you do not even mention it. So sad. I’ve come to expect this low level of integrity from you, however. I feel bad for your children.

Rushncap,

Here is what I said, Mr. reading comprehension genius:

You are right, I was in a rush so I misread your question to me. I easily can see why I did, because you claim with authority that the Iraq war is “illegal”.*

I call that admitting I was wrong. What more do you want? A signed confession? Community Service? Sensitivity training?

And what does Christ have to do with it?

Now will you admit that YOU were wrong? I’ll check in after dinner.

By getalife

April 28, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

Here is one way to get illegals to come home

By RW-(the original)

April 28, 2006 08:53 PM | Link to this

finch,

You (the classic definition) must have missed the caveat about the you (RE defined), but the 20/20 hindsight I’m talking about doesn’t really apply to saying in advance something was wrong, now does it? See you even cut and pasted what I said about just that occasion.

By i-r-o-diM

April 28, 2006 09:02 PM | Link to this

i-r-o-diM,

I had breaking news on Rush and everybody spoiled my fun. Now I’m mad and nobody can have any fun.

i-r-o-diM. Sorry :{

By Not Midori

April 28, 2006 09:06 PM | Link to this

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism 8:34 PM I (Andy) will accuse people of being foul mouthed but I suggest that I’ll rape handicapped women, talk about spitting on soldiers, men ejaculating on one of the bloggers, and curse out everyone on here who disagrees with me. Can you say hypoc… No, it’s already too obvious.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism 8:30 PM Andy= the raper of the handicapped.

By seeker

April 28, 2006 09:06 PM | Link to this

By Buy Danish April 28, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this Seeker,

Look here

Or here, which has source after source available for you to view

They sure do, Danish. Source after source showing that Saddam was blackmailed by Osama.

“I’ll offer you a deal, you heretic infidel,” said Osama. “You let us camp out in your desert, next to our REAL target, the heathen Saudis, and I won’t overthrow you. Okay?”

This is not proof that Saddam, at Osama’s bidding, turned Iraq into a nexus of anti American evil. Sorry.

Your hysterical charge ranks down there with the ones made by uber-lefties in the LIHOP or MIHOP camps who are convinced that Bush actually orchestrated 9/11 so he could attack Iraq. Its all crap.

The 9/11 Commission findings stand. Iraq had virtually nothing to do with Al Quaeda or 9/11. The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

And your rants over a supposed global Islamic conspiracy are pathetic. Almost hysterical. You remind me of my John Bircher neighbors in the 60s who were convinced there were commies in every woodpile in America. The truth was that the spooks in the woodpile were really FBI.

There’s a small bunch of Islamic terrorists out there, to be sure. But if we’d blasted Tora Bora and the rest of eastern Afghanistan, killing Osama and his henchmen instead of diverting massive resources into the Iraq wild goose chase, there’d be even FEWER Islamic terrorists!!

I see you reposted your paranoid babblings a few hours ago. I refuted them before, and I won’t bother repeating myself (like you do).

You are wrong and Bush is STILL an idiot.

By Not Midori

April 28, 2006 09:07 PM | Link to this

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism April 28, 2006 08:34 PM I (Andy) will accuse people of being foul mouthed but I suggest that I’ll rape handicapped women, talk about spitting on soldiers, men ejaculating on one of the bloggers, and curse out everyone on here who disagrees with me. Can you say hypoc… No, it’s already too obvious.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism April 28, 2006 08:30 PM | Andy= the raper of the handicapped.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this

Listen up you slow, stupid, wards of the state liberals unable to keep up on your own without external guidance: I’m signing off for the evening, so anything that comes after this in my name is actually from one of your jerk off cohorts. Since you are a blooming idiot, you’ll probably think it is me but it will be you who will be sitting in here giggling like an idiot looking in the mirror. So have fun in my absence, you utterly embarrassing failures.

By @@

April 28, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Are you saying “Adios” to all of us here?

By Liberal Texas Democrat

April 28, 2006 09:10 PM | Link to this

“And to all of you who are so smug about Rush, I sincerely hope that if you end up in a lot of pain someday and have the strength to endure it without medication, or at the very least are capable of blithely throwing out your addictive meds with nary a care in the world.” Spoken like a true enabler.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 28, 2006 09:10 PM | Link to this

Danish,

Why have you been more polite and less abrasive lately?

By AntiRadical

April 28, 2006 09:12 PM | Link to this

Good toon, ML. I doubt that anyone is listening, though. Remember Rawanda, the Balkans, etc?

I see a lot of posts regarding Rush Limbaugh’s addiction to narcotics. The problem with opiate or opiod type medications is the acquisition of tolerance.

In very short order, the patient does not get relief from the same dose. If the dose is increased, a newer plateau of tolerance is reached until eventually the patient receives no pain relief but is still burdened with constipation, nausea, and the other delitrious side effects of this family of medication.

For this reason, these medications are mostly useful for severe pain that is expected to resolve in a short time span. They are in my experience detrimental when used for chronic unresolving pain. Unfortunately, physicians really have no alternatives to employ for severe pain at this time. Limbaugh’s experience is not uncommon. Narcotic analgesics should not have been employed in his care for an extended period. His Dr. Feelgoods and his own genetic/cultural predisposition for abuse failed him.

By @@

April 28, 2006 09:20 PM | Link to this

Scooter:

If you stop by, check out Andy’s 7:34 link. Does she remind you of someone?

By getalife

April 28, 2006 09:23 PM | Link to this

@@,

No, but I have to go back and break my brother’s swordfish record out of Cancun.

By AntiRadical

April 28, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this

getalife, your link regarding Mexico’s decriminalization efforts was good. I wish that standardized preparations of the active ingredients in marijuana (Sativex and Marinol) could be employed in clinical practice for the relief of chronic severe pain but, alas, I am not allowed.

The notion of decriminalizing heroin, cocaine, and opium is completely stupid. Mexico will see the error of its’ folly in very short order if they indeed proceed with that insanity.

By getalife

April 28, 2006 09:35 PM | Link to this

AntiRadical,

They say they want to go after the big drug dealers because the violence from is spilling into Acapulco hurting the tourist money.

Are you a doctor?

By @@

April 28, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Just make sure you don’t go there in the summertime. Miserable humidity.

When you catch it, come back with a “big fish tale”.

Buena noche, pozo del resto.

By AntiRadical

April 28, 2006 09:53 PM | Link to this

getalife- Yes, I work with pediatric cancers of the blood. I employ Marinol in cases of failure to thrive subsequent to chemotherapy. Sativex is not approved in the USA at present.

I understand the arguments made for decriminalization. There is a great deal of logic in focusing on large scale suppliers and not creating a market that encourages pushers to recruit addicts to sell contraband to. Heroin, opium (from which heroin is made), and cocaine are so extremely addictive, however, that I am thoroughly convinced any attempt to reduce restrictions would be disasterous.

By getalife

April 28, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

@@,

I posted my brother’s fish on my blog for Scooter.

I will make sure I take pictures.

By finch

April 28, 2006 10:07 PM | Link to this

RW,

Whatever. The bottom line is that I’m not using any hindsight to criticize the Iraq invasion after the fact. I was denouncing the idea as soon as it came up post 9/11.

And I was not alone. A lot of other patriotic liberals were with me.

And I’m now using hindsight (lessons learned before and after the Iraq action) to argue that an invasion of Iran would be a grave mistake, especially if it’s planned by Rumsfeld and the other numnuts who botched the Iraq episode.

By getalife

April 28, 2006 10:12 PM | Link to this

AntiRadical,

Any breakthroughs coming and does Marinol help with their appetites?

By AntiRadical

April 28, 2006 10:25 PM | Link to this

getalife- There have been many tremendous breakthroughs in recent years. A diagnosis of ALL (acute lympocytic leukemia) was a death sentence 20 years ago. Now it is highly treatable with a success rate over 90% in several subclasses.

The use of Marinol is mostly employed for failure to thrive which is a resultant to chemotherapy. The patient loses all appetite and wastes away. In many cases Marinol is the only thing that works to restore their will to eat. Ancillary effects are elevation of depresssed mood (which is often concommitant with failure to thrive) and pain relief (ditto).

By RE

April 28, 2006 10:38 PM | Link to this

Anti Radical, Finally someone with some sense on drug issue. I am with you on the decriminalization of Heroin and opiods, very bad idea on Mexico’s part. Please please please, with your background as a physician, please explain why Marijuana should not be a schedule 1 DEA drug.

it does not matter if you think MJ should be legal or not, it is clearly not schedule 1 DEA. It is not addictive, there are medical uses. For reference, Heroin and Cocaine are not schedule 1, I think they are shedule 2 which is less severe a crime to posess because they do have medical uses.

By getalife

April 28, 2006 10:51 PM | Link to this

AntiRadical,

That is great news on the success rate.

I figured Marinol would help their appetites.

By AntiRadical

April 28, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

RE- Schedule 1 designation is reserved for those compounds that have no potential for therapeutic use (hallucinogens, etc). The primary active ingredient in Marijuana (delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinal) clearly does not belong in this classification.

The schedules are antiquated and conflictory. For instance, heroin is a schedule 1 drug here but is the primary opiate narcotic that is employed clinically in Britain; it’s chemical designation is diacetylmorphinone. In the USA we use Dilaudid; it’s chemical designation is dihydromorphinone. There really is no clinical difference in the two compounds but here in the USA “heroin” carries negative conotations so it is schedule 1.

Cocaine is still used clinically here because in some nasal operative proceedures it is vastly superior to any other agent. It is the primary ingredient in TAC pharmaceutical preparations. Consequently it is schedule 2 along with morphine and dilaudid.

I still support marijuana’s inclusion in the schedule 1 category due to the problem with consistency. Differing strains of cannabis (the plant from which the raw drug is harvested) have wildly varying potency. It is impossible to titrate (adjust the dosage) clinically when the strength is so variable. Conversely, I believe that Marinol (a standarized, same potency every time preparation of delta-9 THC) should probably be included under schedule 3 at best. I have not found it to be problematic in the same manner as opiates. This is from a clinical perspective.

In my own opinion, the raw drug (marijuana) is far less of a societal ill than alcohol or cigarettes so I personally do not see why it should not socially be decriminalized in the same manner.

Have a call-in guys. Another 20 hour day for me. Hope this clears things a little and makes some of the absurdity in the schedule classifications a little easier to understand (much just doesn’t make any sort of sense as you have noted). Perhaps we can continue another day?

By Spicoli

April 28, 2006 11:26 PM | Link to this

A drug board? Kewl, they told me it was a cartoon dudes. This is way better than cartoons and this doc is right about cocaine helping out your nose man.

By Buy Danish

April 28, 2006 11:41 PM | Link to this

Seeker,

You’re the one who is ranting.

Rushncap,

Well I’m finished with dinner and it’s time for bed. I’m going to Alabama tomorrow (my first time) to my first NASCAR event! Need my beauty sleep for this special day.

I don’t see any mea culpas from you posted here. I also have one really important question for you and “your audience”:

How do you spell Al Qaeda? Is it Al Qaida?

You say Ramzi, I’ll say Ramsi. Banana. Banahna. Tomato. Tomahto. Let’s call the whole thing off.

But first, I want not 1, but 2 apologies! And an ice-cold pitcher of Pina Coladas.

nite all.

By finch

April 28, 2006 11:59 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Okay, you are truly cool. You like NASCAR. You must be way, way, WAY cool. I am NOT joking. I am too impressed to joke. Have a good time at Talladega!

But if I see you on TV, how will I recognize you?

By RW-(the original)

April 29, 2006 12:24 AM | Link to this

finch,

She said it’s her first trip to NASCAR and her first trip to Alabama, so she could be the terrified looking woman with her fingers in her ears. Or you could look for this.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 29, 2006 06:33 AM | Link to this

Zawahiri Speaks- Al Qaeda releases new video- Terror group No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahiri claims al Qaeda ‘broke the back’ of U.S. military in Iraq

Brokeback? Like in mountain? What’s up with this? I guess Zawahiri really is a pinko.

By The AJC Promotes Hate And Racism

April 29, 2006 06:37 AM | Link to this

Let me show you how “Conservative” Faux News really is, using some of their headlines:

April Deadliest Month for U.S. in ‘06

Rush Limbaugh Turns Himself In on Pill Charges

They reported, I’ve decided.

By Buy Danish

April 29, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

finch,

It’s too early to say whether I like NASCAR. I’ll report back later!

I’ll be wearing a red carnation of course!