Mike Luckovich

By RW-(the original)

March 24, 2006 11:25 PM | Link to this

I wonder how long this one’s contract lasts. Wasn’t Marla’s 4 years 11 months?

Meet Nicole she thinks she is heading toward 100 comments on that link, I bet we could her 200 easy. Have at it!

By Buy Danish

March 24, 2006 11:31 PM | Link to this

I doubt very much that any one other than a nanny is pushing any carriages around.

Of course, Donald could choose the nanny.

By RW-(the original)

March 24, 2006 11:53 PM | Link to this

could get her

Back to the missing words, I hope WashingtonState has a wonder drug for that.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 01:03 AM | Link to this

RW,

[Vaccines are not drugs.] (http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/content/NWS11xVaccineMayHelpPreventCervicalCancer.asp)

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 01:07 AM | Link to this

Try that again:

RW:

Vaccines are not drugs.

By RW-(the original)

March 25, 2006 01:14 AM | Link to this

WashingtonState,

I’m a telephone man, cut me a little slack on the medical terms.

You may know them, but I wouldn’t expect you to know voice and data transmission terms just because you happen to use the phone. I would hope I don’t need a medical degree to hold a blog discussion with you just because I may need a prescription from time to time.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 01:30 AM | Link to this

RW,

The best treatment is prevention. In Washington, kids in public schools get 2 hours of growth and development (liberal code for sex ed) during their first 6 years. They get one class a day of “health” for a week in middle school and one semester in HS. A parent can opt out of any part of these classes they want. The smarter ones want their kids to know as much as possible about the negative consequences of early sexual activity, but there are always a few kooks who think they can protect their children from life by postponing any mention of these issues as long as possible. As I posted earlier, human frailty is not confined to liberals or to conservatives, as some of these parents find out the hard way. Now you may want to blame the current state of our educational system on these few hours of Health Classes, but I think you are being a true troglodyte if you do. There are a host of other issues: one problem is that we have too many pushy parents wanting their precious ones to get a 4.0 and protesting violently whenever a really tough teacher comes along and gives the little darlings the “D” they so richly deserve. That’s in the better schools. The other schools have to deal with the problems of drugs, weapons, parents who don’t give a darn, gangs, and so on. You can have the best teachers in the world, but if parents are not doing their jobs, it won’t matter a bit. Instead of watching t.v. or going to a late business meeting or doing that round of methamphetamine, if parents would take an interest in their kid’s education, things might be a little different. Watching March Madness is always a good lesson in screwed up priorities. A bunch of semi-literate kids who can’t pass the SAT’s without help, on nationwide television being adulated as heroes.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 01:33 AM | Link to this

RW,

I wasn’t being nasty about that (vaccines are not drugs), just providing you with some information. But I think it goes to the point that a little education in STD’s is not a bad thing at all.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 02:37 AM | Link to this

She may be ugly, but she is a lot smarter

By Si

March 25, 2006 03:08 AM | Link to this

RW. “Telephone” guy eh? Always knew you had some kind of a pole up your ignorant a*, just wasn’t certain what type. Thanks.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 06:04 AM | Link to this

Pardon me if I’m wrong but didn’t cartoon boy just recently lampoon the media for paying too much attention to celebrities? Can’t this pinkos keep their complaints sorted out? Maybe we should get ourselves a whine cellar?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 06:09 AM | Link to this

Another one bites the dust:

Former Democratic staffer avoids jail time for computer fraud Woman pleads guilty in Steele credit report case The Associated Press Originally published March 24, 2006, 3:59 PM EST

WASHINGTON // A former Democratic staffer pleaded guilty today to computer fraud for snooping on Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele.

Under the plea agreement in U.S. District Court, Lauren B. Weiner, 25, avoids jail time, but she has a year to do 150 hours of community service.

What’s this make it now, 10 democrat convictions to one Republican?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 06:35 AM | Link to this

Ready for a good laugh?:

Journalists strive daily to keep bias out of news pages Angela Tuck - Staff Saturday, March 25, 2006

As one of my colleagues pointed out this week, journalists rarely set out to deliberately slant coverage. There is a clear set of standards we abide by when assembling each day’s newspaper.

Because the newspaper’s credibility is on the line every day, violations of newsroom standards and ethics are taken seriously by senior editors. Clear expectations and experienced professionals help keep bias out of our news pages.

How sad. I wonder if they really believe this? Let me show you how easy this is:

*Barbara Bush aid tied to son’s firm *

Hillary Clinton can be caught red handed passing out goodies to defense contractors who donated to her campaign, you people in Atlanta won’t never read about it.

9/11 backlash tied to lower birth weights Richard Moron - Washington Post Friday, March 24, 2006

I think this one is more of a mental issue with the AJC Staff but it is slanted to the anti American side, “Getting mad at people who slaughter you makes them give birth to scrawny babies.”

Adoption institute backs gay parents

Don’t ask, don’t tell for our children, that’s real nice. What’s next, viewing booths for pedophiles at school bus stops?

This litter box liner bleeds left wing propaganda, period. Just because you pinkos can rewrite the headlines doesn’t mean you can rewrite history.

P.S. You can bet your sweet, well, you can bet you will be seeing this column again, I’m going to make this a recurring sarcasm theme. I do have plenty of material to work with after all.

By @@

March 25, 2006 07:12 AM | Link to this

Wouldn’t this cartoon make more sense if “What’s her name #?” was in the stroller with the baby and “The Donald” was pushing. If it has something to do with “The Apprentice” show, I stopped watching when “Troy” was booted.

Now exactly why should this topic be cartoon worthy? I’ve done my duty, I commented on the cartoon. Now can we proceed to more worthwhile topics?

By @@

March 25, 2006 07:35 AM | Link to this

LS&L:

I must be missing something on the *Adoption institute backs gay parents” article. Is it not a requirement to meet the prospective parents in person for an interview?

If two women or two men show up for an interview, wouldn’t there be an assumption made? Aren’t unmarried couples viewed as less desirable than married couples?

If a gay man or woman were to show up for an interview with someone of the opposite sex, could this not be construed as fraudulent?

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 07:45 AM | Link to this

What do you guys think of the Immigration proposals? Which one from your view is the best for the country? Which one actually has a chance to pass?

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 07:49 AM | Link to this

@@- I think it’s more like Don’t ask them if they are gay and Don’t tell them that there is no way they are allowed to adopt.

By finch

March 25, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

@@,

I think the cartoon would have been better if Trump and his trophy wife had been in the baby carriage, and the baby had been pushing it.

By default, the kid’s the most mature of the trio.

By PinestrawGuy

March 25, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

HR4437! ENFORCE EXISTING LAWS! PUNISH CRIMINAL EMPLOYERS! DEPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS!

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

My Mistake HR 4437 is not the Pres Bush Proposal. HR 4437 passed the House last year and was sponsored by Congressman Sensenbrenner.

The Proposal of Pres Bush is the Guest Worker Program. Although he did support HR 4437 when it was in the House.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this

@@: I know, isn’t that funny? I guess the case worker has to as-sume that one of them is the “wife.” For real.

I didn’t do a search on the “institute” the libs are using as proof that everything’s cool! but I’m sure they are blatant left wing gay rights. I’ll google them when I get a chance.

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

@@,

Re “Adoption Institute” and Don’t Ask Don’t Tell

This is amazing - the height of absurdity. Why don’t you send an email to Angela Tuck? James Taranto at opinion journal would love this - too bad that he’s closed on Saturdays.

It would make a good cartoon though. Prospective adoptive parents showing up in drag or full butch regalia to pose as an other-gendered parent in waiting? Or just conduct interviews behind a curtain?

It is probably a violation of some civil right to force people to show up in person anyway. The interviewer might be unduly influenced by the applicant’s appearance which is discriminatory and could be a hate crime. I smell ACLU lawsuit.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

Empress: Trust me, Angela Tuck doesn’t care. I guarantee that the whole time she was writing today’s column that she was giggling. Either that or these pinkos really do live in a bubble like they accuse Bush of doing.

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this

I’d like to thank the ACLU for making Easter a dirty word. I guarantee you that St. Patrick’s Day is next

Since when is there a right not to be offended? I am personally offended by these attempts to erase Christianity. Don’t we have majority rule here? Why does the minority get to push the majority around and destroy our culture and traditions?

Thanks Ted Kennedy. That 1965 immigration law you sponsored was really terrific.

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

LS&L,

A.T. probably sides with the Institute, but the story, as written, does make the AJC look pretty darn foolish.

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

WS,

I’d like to address you assertion that anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a trog. I’d like a little more info on this sex ed stuff that your refer to.

At what age do these studies commence?

Are you for or against the NYC law where Kindergarten students must be taught about AIDS?

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this

Though few states have laws or policies explicitly barring homosexuals from adopting, some individual agencies and workers outside those states discriminate against gay and lesbian applicants based on their own biases or on mistaken beliefs that such prohibitions exist.

Thats what the article meant.

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

David U,

Help workers, supervisors, and agency leaders examine their attitudes and beliefs about gay and lesbian parenting, while affirming the value of these families by including them in outreach, training materials, and parent panels.

In other words, reprogramming and sensitivity training is in order and you have no choice but to agree that it’s AOK.

Since I believe in “choice” more than most liberals, I would suggest that adoption agencies be permitted to make their own decisions in these matters. For example if the agency is something like a Catholic Charities, should they be forced to accept gay adoptive parents?

By liberal Texas Democrat

March 25, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this

The cartoon is funny. Is every one here still beating their spouse? Gotta go man the table at the HEB to register more voters.

By liberal Texas Democrat

March 25, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

The cartoon is funny. Is every one here still beating their spouse? Gotta go man the table at the HEB to register more voters.

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

BD - I am not going down the catholic charity…adoption…moral ground…kids road.

Too early in the morning, and I’ve only had 2 cups of coffee so I’m not fully awake yet.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I think the law about AIDS education in kindergarden is ridiculous. Anyone who worked with children would realize that it is developmentally inappropriate. Those poor kids wouldn’t have a clue what you were talking about. As for the health classes in Washington, they are initially focused on issues such as the changes that take place during puberty, the need for showering more often for example. As the kids enter puberty, they center more on sex as a way of procreating the species. They also emphasize the risks and dangers inherent in promiscuous sex. They do discuss issues such as birth control and condoms once the kids are in High School, although kids often bring up those issues on their own in middle school. The curriculum is available for parents to review and every year, there are meetings for interested parents to meet with the teachers before the classes and find out more. If they don’t like the content, they are free to pull their kids out.

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

W.S.,

Sounds good to me…

David U,

It’s a pretty simple issue that shouldn’t require too much coffee unless the goal forced social-engineering that legally removes freedom of choice.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Suck,

One of the biggest problems we have in our schools is bullying, even to the point of causing serious bodily harm and death. And guess who the most serious offenders are: gay bashers. Those kids brought up in homes hearing their parents rant against gays think it is ok to beat the sh*t our of anyone who is effeminate, whether they are gay or not. Their favorite derogatory terms seem to center around people’s supposed sexuality. Not a healthy environment to grow up in. As for gays as adoptive parents, they often take in kids who nobody wants that have been bouncing around the foster care system for years. Your “what’s next, viewing booths for pedophiles?” shows the depth of your ignorance and makes you troglodyte of the day. Show me one study that associates homosexuality with pedophilia. Most pedophiles are straight. Many molest their own children.

By finch

March 25, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this

So far, it’s unanimous. When I read about teaching 5 year olds about AIDS, I thought, “Even the Onion wouldn’t run this. Too far fetched”.

Buy Danish, I checked my Bible for refences to bunnys and colored eggs at Easter. Couldn’t find any. Political correctness run amok.

I’ve got no problem with gay couples adopting kids. Beats warehousing them in orphanages or serial foster homes. I also understand why Catholic groups argue that being forced to arrange such adoptions violate their beliefs. But if those groups get tax dollars?

I’m glad I’m not a judge.

By getalife

March 25, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

Trumps wife looks good even in this cartoon.

Where is the love for ml in not bashing W in this toon?

Isn’t Trump a vicious lib?

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I can think of one reason to teach kindergarden kids about AIDS. That is to get them to stay away from discarded needles drug addicts may have left laying around. It obviously wouldn’t be about sex, but it would be about the dangers of messing around with ‘sharps.’

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

WS,

I don’t really see why we need the government to do this, but sure, teach kids not to touch hypodermic needles and dead animals.

finch,

I think we need to revisit the demand that institutions who receive tax dollars must follow every politically-correct edict that unconstitutionally stomps on Freedom of Association.

By finch

March 25, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

WS,

You chould still tell kids about not touching syringes, bloody rags and such in courses on hygiene and disease prevention. Along with warning about dirty water, spoiled food, why you should wash your hands, etc. I wonder why AIDS has to be explained at all to a 5 year old, beyond that it’s a terrible disease, like hepatitis, meningitis, plague, etc.

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

W.S.,

You wanted to see studies that associate homosexuality with pedophilia? Here ya go -

By finch

March 25, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I gather you disagreed with the Supreme Court decision upholding the Solomon Amendment, which prohibited law schools that accept federal fund from excluding military recruiters.

This decision was clearly a rejection of the school’s rights of free speech and association.

Right?

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

finch,

Good point, but having a strong military, with bright educated volunteers is essential to our national defense.

Forcing a mainstream religious organization to participate in gay adoption is not.

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

From Wiki:

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote “A military recruiter’s mere presence on campus does not violate a law school’s right to associate, regardless of how repugnant the law school considers the recruiter’s message

finch,

The right to associate is not harmed, so it is a moot point. This was a unanimous decision by the Supremes…

By @@

March 25, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

DavidU: This is the part that seems reasonable to me. Placement of older children is difficult. If they are old enough to understand this, they should be given the consideration to make their own decisions with full knowledge of the possibilities.

Conduct research to inform the development of resources, training, and support to improve post-adoption success. And work to include and educate children in the process, recognizing that they may encounter prejudice if adopted by gay parents.“>http://www.adoptioninstitute.org/policy/2006ExpandingResourcesforChildren.php)

But there again, I can also foresee lawsuits from grown adults, not to mention defense strategies should they become unhappy with the results of their upbringing.

I relate all these things to the “new-found drug” which purports miracle results, only to find out years later that it causes cancer. Progress is wonderful, but is this progress when you fail to take into consideration the unintended consequences.

I really don’t know. Sometimes I think that progress can be found in the historical foundation on which we began.

I’m down with a headache. All this thinking takes its’ toll. Not to mention, all I had was decaf coffee this morning.

By Dusty

March 25, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

OK, OK, I have a question?? (Forget all the heavy stuff.)

I know Trump has been married several times and has a fairly new #3 model and new baby. I know he ran the Apprentice show which I never watched. I am pretty sure he thinks he is God’s gift to the universe and is loaded with money.

OK…now explain this cartoon for me. Maybe it is the Saturday morning blues, my hair is wet and it is 66 degrees in here!! Maybe. Hurry! Explain.

By @@

March 25, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

Let’s try that again. My headache prevailed.

Conduct research to inform the development of resources, training, and support to improve post-adoption success. And work to include and educate children in the process, recognizing that they may encounter prejudice if adopted by gay parents.

If this attempt to link doesn’t work, I’m going horizontal.

By @@

March 25, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

Dusty:

I don’t think anybody understands this cartoon, so don’t feel bad. I’d have to go take a look see at what “The Donald” has been up to lately. It’s pretty obvious what he was up to 9 months ago.

Yuk! Just the thought of his “comb-over” dangling in that woman’s face is enough to stop me from thinking about this cartoon forever.

By RW-(the original)

March 25, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

@@,

Who is this Bromfield dude you were talking…err typing about?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

Clueless: Your “what’s next, viewing booths for pedophiles?” shows the depth of your ignorance and makes you troglodyte of the day. Since you are going to make me guilty by association, that must mean you are a sodomite since you spoke out on behalf of f-ags and pedophiles.

Let’s get something straight here, mr. false morality, Jesus Christ never told his followers to be tolerant of sin, which means I will not be. You can follow the crowd right off the cliff, that’s your prerogative. Do not lecture me on your mistakes.

By @@

March 25, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

R.W.:

I have bestowed upon you a military rank for which you may thank me later. You may use it whenever appropriate.

This was done in response to your self-portrait at Nicole’s. Lt. Bromhead was played by Michael Caine (dreamy bedroom eyes) so you may receive that as complimentary also. I’m feeling generous today now that I’ve had some real caffeine.

By @@

March 25, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this

R.W.:

“Zulu” in case I left you confused. It’s a movie about an “unusually tall” tribe in Africa. Well there’s more to it than that, but I’m trying to keep it simple.

By RW-(the original)

March 25, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this

@@,

I feel much better about it all now. Thank you!

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

Suck,

I am not going down this road with you. The “studies” you cite are propaganda. Homosexuality is not something people choose, but rather has a bioligical basis. I know this is counter to your beliefs. But leaving all that aside and assuming that there really is an alternate universe where people choose to be outcasts, didn’t Christ tell you to love the sinner? Again, I will repeat my statement, backed by facts and personal experience: most pedarasts are straight. They often molest their own children. I would rather be a sodomite that a sanctimonious, bible thumping troglodyte who uses his religious beliefs to beat others into submission.

By finch

March 25, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

The court’s Solomon Amendment decision is based on precedents that conclude if you accept government money, you have to play by government rules. The schools’ argument that overturning their recruitment ban violated freedom of assembly was weak. But the argument that voiding the ban would violate free speech and private property rights had merit, IMO Just the same, the schools lost. The Constitution trumps regulations, but regulations trump a group’s argument that federal funds come with no strings attached.

I’m not debating the ethical, moral or practical consequences of denying federal dollars to Catholic adoption services if they bar gays who want to adopt.

But I wouldn’t be surprised if courts ruled that federal funding of groups where applicants are rejected solely for religious reasons is unconstitutional.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Sorry, it was Buy Danish who gave me that link to the Family Research Council. They are a good reason that you shouldn’t mix religion and politics, or in this case, religion and science. The rest still holds.

Buy Danish,

I am surprised at you. You usually would have more sense than to seriously think that anyone would consider The Family Resource Council a source of objective information. Those are not studies, they are a great example of how you can cherry pick data and distort it to support just about anything you want.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Most pedophiles are male. Many indiscriminately molest both male and female children. This doesn’t make them homosexual, only indiscrimnate pedophiles. Most homosexuals in relations that are committed enough to consider taking on the responsibilities of adopting a child are not interested in sexually molesting children. I wish the same could be said of heterosexual coulples in the foster care system. While most of these people are wonderful, caring couples who selflessly give of themselves, there are too many who put themselves in that position in order to gains access to children. (male or female, it doesn’t seem to matter.) What has always puzzled me about these arrangements is that while it is usually the male member of the couple who is the molester, why would a wife put up with it?

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this

WS,

You can call it “propaganda” if you want, but the Nambla stuff is bad enough that even the U.N. is troubled:

In 1985 NAMBLA was admitted as a member in New York’s council of Lesbian and Gay Organizations as well as the International Gay Association—now the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA). In the mid-1990’s ILGA’s association with NAMBLA and other pedophile groups cost the organization it’s status as a Non-Governmental Organization in the United Nations.

ILGA’s renewed attempt to gain admittance to the UN was rejected again in April 2002 because the organization “did not document that it had purged pedophile groups such as [NAMBLA].” The Washington Times reports that Ishtiag H. Anrabi, Pakistani delegate to the UN Economic and Social Council, expressed concern that ILGA was continuing to be secretive about ties with pedophile groups: “For more than a year, the ILGA has refused to provide documentation or allow review of its membership list to demonstrate that pedophilia groups have been expelled.”[53]

BTW, it is impossible to remove religion from politics and the Left is politicizing religion as much, if not more than anyone by trying to remove all traces of it form the public square.

By finch

March 25, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

WS,

Have you seen or read all those news reports about hetero men who chat-room troll for underage girls? I have.

How many gays have been accused of seeking young victims this way? I’m sure there are cases, but I can’t think of a single one.

The “crisis” of gay pedophiles is vastly exaggerated.

The intolerance of chronic homophobes is not. Especially ones who call you a “sodomite” because you don’t believe that all gays are child rapists.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I have serious problems with the concept of NAMBLA, but they haven’t surfaced on our radar in our local Child Sexual Assault Clinic. Neither have cases of men who are living a gay lifestyle abusing children. What is seen is children who are abused by their fathers or their mother’s “boyfriend’s.” These folks come from all walks of life and all socioeconomic classes. The other group are the serial offenders who spend years getting themselves in positions of trust which they are able to take advantage of. These include scout masters, ministers, youth counsellors, etc. None of them has been living a homosexual lifesyle. They are all focused on getting at children.

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

WS,

I don’t really have a dog in this fight (except to say that I deplore pedophilia)but how is it that you get to make sweeping undocumented statements, yet claim that data which comes from numerous and documented sources is propaganda?

You asked to see ONE study that associated homosexuality with pedophilia. I gave you a bundle of them, but when you don’t like the results you claim that the source is untrustworthy because it was compiled by a relgious organization.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

finch,

I have a sister who is a born again. Everytime we talk about homosexuality, we reach an impasse. She honestly believes that kids choose a lifestyle that subjects them to constant humiliation to the point that many commit suicide. She is impervious to all the studies that are finding a biological basis for homosexuality. I have given up talking to born agains about homosexuality. The issue of child molestation is a whole other ball game. As the man said: “Know your enemy.” As long as people are focusing on shadow enemies like NAMBLA, they are letting the real perpetrators operate in the clear. Everytime we get down to the nitty gritty of who the child molestors really are, my sister suddenly doesn’t want to talk about it. She has trouble believing that a perfectly respectable member of her church could be diddling his kids on the side. The problem with child molestors is that they could be anybody.

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

finch,

You said, But I wouldn’t be surprised if courts ruled that federal funding of groups where applicants are rejected solely for religious reasons is unconstitutional.

I beg to differ, but I will defer to the New Supremes.

The “crisis” of gay pedophiles is vastly exaggerated.

I gather then that you did not join the chorus of Priest-bashing, or did those Priests molest young girls? To steal a quote from you, I’m sure there are cases, but I can’t think of a single one.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Earlier today, RW took me to task for pointing out the difference between a drug and a vaccine. He asked me why I would expect him to know the difference as long as he knew how to use them. The answer was that I didn’t expect him to know the difference, but that it was important information because one was about prevention, the other about treatment after the fact. Along the same vein, there are many papers that look like research to the untrained eye, but are nothing more than someone going over reams of data, taking out the part that suits them, and then using that data to “prove” a point. ( a process called cherry picking.) That is why articles undergo a process of peer review in scientific publications. The internet has allowed the dissemination of much information, but has removed any element of peer review. It is “caveat emptor.” Research means reviewing all the data, coming up with a hypothesis, and then testing that hypothesis with a designed study. The “Family Research Council” has never done a real research paper in its entire existence. It is one of the best examples of cherry picking on the internet.

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

Can this debate be won? ever?

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I really don’t know what to think about the priest bit. I suspect it is more a case of who is available. The Catholic Church has a tradition of being male dominated. Very few girls become altar girls or are intimately associated with priests. The fact that the priests by and large loose interest in the boys once they become young men makes me think they are probably run of the mill child molestors, but I really don’t know. I do know that that other ministers who molest children tend to molest boys and girls. The part I posted before about people spending years getting themselves into a position of trust in a community holds true here.

By finch

March 25, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

Buy Danis,

I, too will defer to the New Supremes. But it will be an interesting case when it reaches the courts.

I didn’t know priests were using chatrooms to troll for young boys. Also, I’d be interested to see how many priests abused boys they had adopted. Want to guess?

I didn’t join the priest-bashing mob because, frankly, the whole sorry mess left me feeling sad, not angry. I do not hate the Church, and I’m baffled by the men of God who betrayed it.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

To be honest with you, I don’t care. What I want everyone on this forum to realize is that child molestors don’t fit into any easy slot. Your scoutmaster, minister, day care providor, neighbor, or boss could well be one. Focusing on a group such as homosexuals allows these men (and occasionally women) to operate with impunity.

By Midori

March 25, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

Hey Andy,

friend of yours?

or is that another of your “aliases”?

By @@

March 25, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

DavidU:

When you have alot of time, take a look at this.

It’s rather ironic, the source. Bookmark it, it really is interesting.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

@@,

I believe it was you who asked me how I knew the political affiliations of the child abusers I had contact with. Did I answer your question satifactorily? I admitted I didn’t know their political affiliations, only their general philosphies, conservative or liberal.

By devil doll

March 25, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

well, i do have a dog in this fight. imagine my suprise to find out this morning that 1) i’m going to hell for bedding another woman, and 2) some people equate gay and lesbians with pedophiles.

let’s make one thing clear: being gay or lesbian is a matter of sexual orientation; pedophilia is a psychological disorder of sexual abuse. i have never met anyone in the g/l community that condones sexual activity with juveniles.

buy danish, your statements incoroporate several fallacies of thinking, including those of reification, association, and binary arrangement. if you are going to claim to be a proponent of logic, then at least know the rules of philosophy.

i would never assume that all catholic priests are inclined to molest children just because of recent instances. likewise, i would never assume all white southerns to be racist because of the concerned citizens council (formerly the white citizens council; formerly the klan).

conversely, because a man molests a child it does not make them gay. it makes them sick. if you check the modus operandi of molesters, you will find a large number are in hetero-relationships; are white; and many are involved in community organizations such as churches, youth sports leagues, and the like. maybe we should be on the look out for middleaged white male churchgoers? it fits your model of logic.

this pedophilia sh!t is just that. groups like the family research council use it to set there own agendas and to stir up homophobia.

i do not pretend to speak for all gay and lesbians. i’m not a member of any political g/l group. all i want is to live my life without the threat of someone using the power of government to beat me over the head with their evangelical interpretaion of leviticus, romans, or the ten commandments.

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

@@ - Looks interesting thanks, I saved it and will attempt to print it at work (don’t nobody tell). Once I finish with the Iraqi Perspectives Project, I’ll read it.

By RW-(the original)

March 25, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState,

If you call this taking you to task you have very thin skin.

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

DevilDoll - Thank You!

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this

finch,

It is sad, and despicable. My point was merely that while you were focusing on all the men trolling for young girls, there also seem to be an awful lot of homosexual men preying on young boys, although not necessarily on the internet.

You and W.S. seem to think that these numbers are exaggerated. I’m not going to just take W.S.’s word for it.

The FRC did not conduct its own research, it compiled it and analyzed it. W.S. is free to provide the sources that he trusts. I am only interested in the truth.

This is not a pet subject of mine, and the only reason that I got involved was because W.S. made a sweeping generalization that caught my attention. It is not within my personality to let generalizations like that slide by unchallenged.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this

RW,

I do have a thin skin where some issues are concerned. I did not mean to imply that you were ignorant because you didn’t know the difference between a drug and a vaccine. The problem with blogs is that there is no way of reading a person’s body language, etc. I apologize if I came across as putting you down for not knowing that difference.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

There is a huge body of literature about child abuse, both sexual and otherwise. It is my job to be familiar with it. Your Council represents an extremist view that is totally out of step with the research that has been published. I doubt that providing you with a list of source publications will make much difference, but if you want them, go to www.nih.gov and do a search on child abuse or on sexual abuse in medline.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Here is another good source of information, The American Academy of Pediatrics: http://www.aap.org/

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

Devil Doll,

Read my last post to W.S. You are jumping to conclusions about me. If you went back and read what I wrote, and why I wrote it, you would see that I have not done what you claim that I have done - to equate gays and lesbians with pedophilia.

By RW-(the original)

March 25, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState,

At the risk of having to reach through the screen and shake you again. MY ORIGINAL COMMENT WAS A JOKE!!!! That’s why I thought it was funny that you said I had taken you to task.

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

W.S.

It’s not “MY” council! What is it with you guys and your stereotyping of conservatives?

A few days ago I was told that the kooks who are protesting at military funerals are from “MY” church.

But God forbid that I show evidence that the anti-war movement is run by ultra-leftists - then I am accused of slime and slander.

I’m done discussing this subject. You brought it up. I answered in a manner that was free of bigotry, and now a few of you want to try to paint me as a “homophobe” - one of the oldest liberal tricks in the book.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Sorry, I thought you posted that as a serious link and believed what they had to say.

By @@

March 25, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this

DavidU:

I know what you mean about the “Shhhh”. I’m kinda concerned about having all this stuff on my computer, but not so concerned that I would argue against the NSA’s wiretapping in the interest of national security. If I all of a sudden disappear, just know that I will miss the opportunity to learn here.

After you read it, it will make all debates seem useless, but entertaining and enlightening just the same.

WashingtonState:

Yes, your response was sufficient, but a stinging generalization. Although you attributed the possibilities to both Republicans and democrats. You specifically selected a conservative (Republican) to support your argument.

I felt kinda pigeonholed. But I’ll survive.

By devil doll

March 25, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this

buy danish, if i didn’t understand the 11:19 post, then i apologize. i thought you were serious.

i suppose i take all this a little more personally - i’ve been hearing it for a long time from some folks - usually from people who don’t even know me.

there might come a day when my partner and i will want to have children. i’d like to think that it will not be unlawful for myself or her to go to a sperm bank. we’re really just ordinary people (well, kinda) who happened to be in love with one another. why would some people assume that i would be unfit as a parent?

anyhow, bd, i’ll bury the hatchet with ya’.

By @@

March 25, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

Every time I have to open a new screen because of the malfunction here (white screen), I’m looking at the bottom and seeing “Baby Turnip” by mistake. Subliminal?

By RW-(the original)

March 25, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

@@,

I see “Baby Turnip” too I’m glad it’s not just me. The only good thing about the current white screen malfunction is that the dude with the dove on his shirt isn’t asking you to take a survey every time you comment.

By @@

March 25, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

Time to cough it up fellas.

See R.W., sometimes our minds do work alike! I’ve done my part at Nicole’s, but we seem to have run her off. Shame on us!

Also, I prefer to think of myself as somewhat naive, rather than pre-corrupted. Thank you!

By finch

March 25, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

RW, @@…

I have yet to see either Baby Turnip or dove dude. I feel deprived.

I’ll try again.

By finch

March 25, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this

Nope. No dove dude. No baby.

And keep your scalpel off my cojones!

By George

March 25, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

It is past time to put an end to all of the BUSHIT.

By @@

March 25, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

finch:

Women deliver them, now men can save them. It’s only fair. Turn your head and cough you wuss!

By RW-(the original)

March 25, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

finch,

Dove dude only shows up when the blog is working properly so the odds are against seeing him any time soon.

@@,

I thought pre-corrupted was good, although I forgot where I said that.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

I wish I could have been around to give a fresh response to Clueless but I had to go up 75 to Bartow and get stuck in traffic for several hours.

Clueless: You have your head so far up your as-s you’ve started your own little universe. You are a media propaganda dupe. They’ve filled your head with all kinds of nonsense.

Look at this page here, a list of sex offenders and tell me how many Catholic priests you see on it. What in the h-ell study are you reading that all priests are child molesters? I mean are you serious, that all white Christian males have a natural tendency to molest children?

And homosexuality is biological? Really? You mean those aren’t reproductive organs? Reproductive. R-E-P-R-O-D-U-T-I-V-E. That is their purpose, ever wonder why a man’s fits right inside of a woman’s so nicely? Why is this so hard to understand?

Homosexuality is a perversion of human nature. I’m sorry if I’m offending anyone but it’s just reality. This may be confusing to you libs but creating other little souls just might be more of your real purpose here on Earth than spending your days getting off.

I could care less what you do for kicks, honestly. What p** me off is you going around trying to change reality to accommodate your pleasure seeking and broadcasting what you do with your pee-pee to the whole freaking world. Put a lid on it, we really don’t want to know.

And we don’t want you teaching the s-hit to our children. Period.

By the way, the exact words you are looking for are love the sinner but hate the sin.

And who ever said I was without sin?

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this

@@ & RW,

I know that this was not the point of @@’s post, but Anti-Radical, also known as “The Professional” should be interested in this science news.

Personally, I’m delighted to hear it, and as a bonus, it takes away another issue to demonize conservatives with.

finch,

I don’t see doves or turnips either. The only survey I get is ML’s poll.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this

Oh well, I was sort of hoping to see Cheney on “Idol” someday:

ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney on Friday rejected charges by Democrats that the Bush administration was mishandling Iraq and said: “If they are competent to fight this war, then I ought to be singing on American Idol.”

Hey, if Cheney can’t sing what about Condi?

By clark

March 25, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

forgot the amen, preacher man.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON — Disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff has advised friends that he has no derogatory information about former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay and is not implicating him as part of his plea bargain with federal prosecutors.

Get this party started on a Saturday night Everybody’s waitin for me to arrive Sendin’ out the message to all of my friends We’ll be lookin flashy in my Mercedes Benz I got lotsa style, check my gold diamond rings I can go for miles if you know what I mean I’m comin’ up so you better get this party started I’m comin’ up so you better get this party started

By NJH

March 25, 2006 06:10 PM | Link to this

Does the cartoon mean that at the Donald’s age Mrs. Trump will soon have to be pushing him and the baby around. How old is he anyway?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Seven Dead in Seattle Shooting Saturday, March 25, 2006

SEATTLE — A gunman opened fire Saturday morning in a rental home occupied by 20 young partygoers, killing six and critically injuring at least one other before committing suicide when confronted by police outdoors.

“Civil war” in Seattle? Is it a quagmire in Clueless’s neighborhood?

By @@

March 25, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this

BD:

I guess that makes R.W. and I special. We see things that others don’t??? Sounds good anyway!!!

I think that we would all agree, that the “turn your head and cough fellas” is a good thing. Right guys?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

Not only is Cynthia, Queen Pinko, recycling MoveOn slogans this week, she has to lie to get them to “work”:

Military recruits are pulled largely from the nation’s working class — from those whose prospects are less than stellar, from high school graduates who know they have little chance of affording college tuition, from young parents whose civilian jobs don’t come with health insurance. Enlisted men and women tend to come from households earning between $32,000 and $33,500, according to a 1999 Defense Department study. The median American income is $43,300.

Watch how easy this is:

Taken directly from the 2002 census bureau estimates, the average median income by age group-

15 to 24 - 27,828 25 to 34 - 45,330 35 to 44 - 53,521

Those most likely to join the military average $27,828 which is below the median from Mother Lib’s defense department stats.

So, actually, our soldiers are upper middle class.

Next lie?

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this

Oh, Oh.

Clinton campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson denied any spying was going on

By RW-(the original)

March 25, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this

@@,

How could you and I be the only ones that saw the dove guy? He was popping up constantly for days. They never warned me this could happen.

By getalife

March 25, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this

“Some campaigns hand out campaign buttons; the McFarland campaign hands out tinfoil hats with antennas,” he quipped.

Nice post BD.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 06:51 PM | Link to this

@@,

I didn’t deliberately single out conservatives, it was just fresh in my mind because I had to deal with it this week. I was also responding to a few of our more rabid posters who seem to think that being a liberal automatically makes you a bad parent.

Suck,

You have a vivid imagination if you were able to get that crock of sh*t out of my post. People like you give conservatives a bad name.

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

getalife,

It could have been the National Enquirer.

By @@

March 25, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

R.W.:

I don’t know. Maybe it was a “Crallspace” thing going on. You know….a “minds eye” mystery thing.

But, I’ve got your back on this one.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Actually rereading the post, you got half of it right.

Where you got this from is a complete mystery to me and I suspect to anyone reading those posts:

“Look at this page here, a list of sex offenders and tell me how many Catholic priests you see on it. What in the h-ell study are you reading that all priests are child molesters? I mean are you serious, that all white Christian males have a natural tendency to molest children?”

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 06:59 PM | Link to this

Many thanks Mc Cain - Feingold

What happens if a blogger posts an ad editorially? A week in the slammer?

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Maybe you have a guilty conscience??

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this

Clueless: People like you give conservatives a bad name.

Yea, like you know what a Conservative is. Let me guess, someone who caves in to all of the pinkos feelgood ideas? Right?

By RW-(the original)

March 25, 2006 07:11 PM | Link to this

@@,

But, I’ve got your back on this one.

Normally that would be a good thing, but I know what you are up to today with your testicular stem cell research. So I’m not letting you sneak up on me.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this

Clueless: This may come as a surprise but the blue text in the comments, if you click on it, a link will magically appear. This particular link was to the GBI sex offender registration search page and I picked Dekalb County because I always see alot of weird people over there.

This is like the most authoritative source for perverts, when they get busted, they also get listed. It ain’t the pinko media, that’s for sure, with their tales of creepy priests and degenerate preachers.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this

Maybe I misunderstood:

By WashingtonState March 25, 2006 02:50 PM DavidU, To be honest with you, I don’t care. What I want everyone on this forum to realize is that child molestors don’t fit into any easy slot. Your scoutmaster, minister, day care providor, neighbor, or boss could well be one. Focusing on a group such as homosexuals *allows these men (and occasionally women) to operate with impunity&&.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 07:22 PM | Link to this

Suck,

The link doesn’t work anyway, but you seriously need to educate yourself better before you start spouting off about things you know nothing about. You also need to take the time to read and understand what other people post before replying. I know that is asking a lot, but at least you could try? The American Academy of Pediatrics (not a politically affiliated group) has been trying to get through to people like you for the last 20 years. Child abusers come from all walks of life, all socio-economic strata, all races, all religions. They do not fit neatly into your stereotypes. Your insistence on these stereotypes allows abusers to operate with a lot less interference.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

Suck,

I am sorry you have a problem with the truth, but those are the facts. Anyone you know could be a child molestor.

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

Liberals S&L - The link to the sex offenders in Dekalb doesn’t work.

By @@

March 25, 2006 07:28 PM | Link to this

LS&L:

Your 5:54 post didn’t take me anywhere. I tried to cut and paste in an open file and got the same nowhere. Maybe you should try again.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this

GBI sex offender search page

I think you have to read their terms before you can get to the page I posted, whatever. Search your own county (maybe something will come up under Clueless!) and see how many scoutmaster, minister, day care providor, neighbor, or bosses you can find.

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 07:36 PM | Link to this

You have to go here and pick the county and then you get the list

However it does not specify if any of them are: Your scoutmaster, minister, day care providor, neighbor, or boss …..and neither if they are GAY.

So …..You know…

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 07:38 PM | Link to this

Anyone you know could be a child molester

That’s the same pinko bulls-hit like they use to defend abortions, saying that the father raped his daughter and all kinds of crap like that. In reality, I’ll bet you can’t come up with one instance of a father knocking up his daughter and not letting her get an abortion. It’s the pinko bogeyman.

It’s also what they think of all you “hayseeds” out there in the Red States. These as-sholes think you are drunk, toothless and scheming your sister. What’s so dam-n funny about it, the libs are the ones getting high and scheming some dudes rear end.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 07:38 PM | Link to this

Suck,

You are classic example of incurable ignorance. Can someone else please talk to this person and see if you can get through?

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 07:48 PM | Link to this

Suck,

This may come as a surprise to you, but I have a lot of trouble with abortions. I have taken care of infants as young as 24 weeks and seen them survive. But that is not what this is about. It is about people recognizing that most abuse is by family members and people trusted by the family. Often, the abusers were abused themselves, not that that excuses anything. Abusers are not some stranger bogeyman who sneak into a child’s room at night. They are usually people known to the child and his/her family.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 07:54 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Stop putting words into my mouth. Hayseeds in red states are not any less or more likely to abuse their kids than bluebloods in Boston. You are on your own on this one.

By RW-(the original)

March 25, 2006 07:56 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish & getalife,

The guy that’s filling in for Ian called KT McFarland to clarify the helicopter story. It didn’t get any clearer. I’ll link directly to his site instead of Expose the Left.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 07:57 PM | Link to this

DavidU: Please don’t make me classify these people on the list, I really don’t want to go there. Consider this my nod to multiculturalism, you won’t see it happen very often.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this

Yea, and Vietnam vets are drunk, drug abusing, psychotic killers, right? That’s another famous pinko characterization.

Do you believe that too, Clueless?

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this

Suck,

You opened this door. Now tell us explicitly what you mean by “my nod to multiculturanism.” I am curious to see what kind of a person you really are.

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 08:09 PM | Link to this

NOoooo……KT McFarland , don’t listen you run on the tinfoil hat platform. Please!

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this

Suck,

We’ll come back to Vietnam later. Quit changing the subject. What did you mean by giving us a link to sexual predators in DeKalb county and then refusing to elaborate on a classification of the offenders as your “nod to multiculturaism?”

By getalife

March 25, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this

They need to let that woman know they will be taking pictures of her and it is not Hillary.

Poor woman, I do not think she will be able to handle the media.

The tin-foil hats are designed specifically for the far left, it doesn’t look good on you.

Looks good on her.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this

I’m going to overlook the obvious like you do for every part of your life, Clueless. Thanks for asking.

By getalife

March 25, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this

They need to let that woman know they will be taking pictures of her and it is not Hillary.

Poor woman, I do not think she will be able to handle the media.

The tin-foil hats are designed specifically for the far left, it doesn’t look good on you.

Looks good on her.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 08:22 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Come on and say it. Or are you too much of a coward to back up your own words.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 08:29 PM | Link to this

Clueless: Before you get too warm to your witch hunt, I’m married to a minority, duma-ss.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 08:31 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Then you shouldn’t mind answering the question. You have used just about every strategem to avoid it so far, so lets hear it. Out with what you meant.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 08:33 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Is your being married to a minority supposed to be some sort of clue as to what you meant?

By Buy Danish

March 25, 2006 08:39 PM | Link to this

RW,

There probably were helicopters flying over her house, and she may have joked about it. But it was not a very, shall we say “savvy” joke.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 08:44 PM | Link to this

Clueless: You keep overlooking the obvious, it’s been so good for the United States, giving us things like ghettos and a permanent underclass. I’ll keep trying to focus everyone back on reality and make America better. Deal?

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 08:46 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Quit beating around the bush and say what you mean. You opened this door and it is up to you to tell everyone what you meant by it.

By finch

March 25, 2006 08:51 PM | Link to this

WS,

I think Suck makes himself quite clear.

“Consider this my nod to multiculturalism, you won’t see it happen very often.”

It’s just his way of saying that all other cultures are beneath him. He’s saying he’s a racist. In a compassionate way, of course.

Oh, and he hates gays, too. Can’t forget about the homos. I sure wish devil doll was here.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 08:56 PM | Link to this

finch,

Don’t let him off the hook. I want to hear it from his own cowardly mouth.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 09:00 PM | Link to this

Since we are reading every bodies mind tonite, let’s see what finch thinks:

By finch February 18, 2006 10:39 PM | Link to this bedwetter. bedwetterbedwetterbedwetter. Yup. Anyone who disagrees with you is homo. Or pinko. Or in a drunken stupor. A punka-s-s. A pus-sy. You are a profoundly inhuman excuse for a human being. bedwetterbedwetterbedwetter….

Anybody can look at the link and draw their own conclusions, the majority of molesters are mexican males. I was just trying to be polite.

Unlike the real bigots in here who have spent the whole day discriminating against clergy and white males, openly promoting racist hatred.

Hypocrites.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 09:03 PM | Link to this

The real bigots in here:

By finch March 25, 2006 02:49 PM I didn’t know priests were using chatrooms to troll for young boys. Also, I’d be interested to see how many priests abused boys they had adopted. Want to guess?

The safe, cowardly form of bigotry.

By Andy's Mom

March 25, 2006 09:03 PM | Link to this

Its true, my Andy is married to a minority, a blow up girl. This is the 32nd one he’s been through, I’m about to throw it out its so nasty.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 09:06 PM | Link to this

Racist Washington State, at work:

*By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 02:46 PM Buy Danish, I really don’t know what to think about the priest bit. I suspect it is more a case of who is available. The Catholic Church has a tradition of being male dominated. Very few girls become altar girls or are intimately associated with priests. The fact that the priests by and large loose interest in the boys once they become young men makes me think they are probably run of the mill child molestors, but I really don’t know. I do know that that other ministers who molest children tend to molest boys and girls. The part I posted before about people spending years getting themselves into a position of trust in a community holds true here.*

Coward.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 09:08 PM | Link to this

Suck,

You still haven’t answered my question. Are you that much of a coward that you are afraid to voice your true thoughts on the subject on an anonymous blog? Do me a favor. Get another nick and come back here with some guts.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 09:11 PM | Link to this

Suck,

I am “openly promoting racist hatred?”

RW, you usually have a good head on your shoulders. Can you tell me exactly what is going on here?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 09:15 PM | Link to this

Clueless: I answered your question at 9:00 you bigot, racist hater, duma-ss.

What do you want, some good old fashioned hate, like what you’ve been spewing all day about the Church, dic-khead? Look elsewhere, I’m not a coward KKK like you are.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 09:16 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Quit throwing up a smoke screen and answer my question. It is fairly simple. If you really have the courage of your convictions, it shouldn’t be a problem for you. Actually, the fact that you have so adamantly refused to answer speaks volume, but I would rather hear it directly instead of girlie-boy innuendo.

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 09:21 PM | Link to this

I think there were at least 2 Asian males on there too….

And there is no way that in the Dekalb search there are more ‘mexicans’.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 09:25 PM | Link to this

I’m not a piece of s-hit like you are, Clueless. You stayed in here all day spreading false hate about the Church, saying things that you have no proof of. Now you are going to race bait me. Forget it. You only know how to deal in hate, that’s what you are trying to read into my words. That is your life, failure.

I’ll say it again for this bigot, the majority of the sex offenders in the link were Mexican males. I was trying to be polite about this fact.

This maggot is trying to stir up racial hatred so he can feel at home.

By finch

March 25, 2006 09:25 PM | Link to this

WS,

Uh oh… Suck called you a racist hater!

I guess that makes Suck a racist lover. But I knew that.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 09:31 PM | Link to this

DavidU: So what point are you trying to make? Would it make a difference if they were Chinese?

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 09:41 PM | Link to this

Liberals S@L - My point was that:

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

Suck,

So Mexican males commit the majority of child molestation in this country and white christians never do. Why didn’t you say so in the first place? Is it more socially acceptable to be bigotted against Mexicans than African-Americans? I mean, a bigot is a bigot. Why don’t you go back to your cave and sulk. And be sure and get another nick before you come back, you loser.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

For anyone interested, Suck is not only a bigot, but a liar. Go to this link Do a search for DeKalb, and tell me whether the faces you see are Mexican or not. Maybe he needs glasses.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

Why would I run from a race baiter? Why do you think I provide proof for everything I say, while you liberals, Robert Byrd, KKK, party, only say that priests molest children. What you deal in is called hate. It’s the new safe cowardly form of bigotry, now that you can’t put on your pointy hat and burn some crosses.

DavidU: Man, I wish I knew what you were getting at. Explain what you are trying to say.

I’m out, why don’t all you bigots start a little race baiting with my fake?

By finch

March 25, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

If we’ve been looking at the same list (GBI’s sex offenders in DeKalb County), I’d say the ones with Hispanic surnames are in the distinct minority, and relatively in proportion to the population. The list certainly doesn’t prove that Mexicans, much less Hispanics, have cornered the market on child perversion, despite what Suck says. And boy, are there a lot of white faces.

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 10:03 PM | Link to this

Liberal S&L- Explain what you are trying to say.

That you need to get some sleep, and start again tomorrow.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 10:04 PM | Link to this

Suck,

Damn, there’s one. Martinez. What is he? Half way thru the alphabet. You are a truly pathetic loser Suck. First you make racist innuendos, then you refuse to answer a direct question about those innuendos, then you outright lie. I think your credibility in this forum is done.

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 10:05 PM | Link to this

And glasses, you need glasses.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 10:11 PM | Link to this

RW, Buy Danish, @@ and you other conservative posters,

Do you want to claim this lying sack of bigotted s** for your own, or should we give Suck his walking papers?

By RW-(the original)

March 25, 2006 10:24 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState,

This isn’t a gang fight or some bizarre group pick up game. This is a blog where individuals make their case and/or debate. Anyone reading can make their own judgments and contribute if they desire.

As you can plainly see I have not been interested in this conversation today and I’m not any more interested in it now.

What is it about the concept of individuality you don’t understand?

By rushncap

March 25, 2006 10:28 PM | Link to this

Still trolling Andy? Hey, which one are you in the database? Ellenwood? Kempson? Wilder?

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 10:29 PM | Link to this

RW,

I have never seen anything from Suck other than spam cut and pastes. The part about his being a racist and liar is icing on the cake. Too bad he represents himself as a true conservative because I have come to have some hope in conservatives after spending some time on this blog.

By @@

March 25, 2006 10:30 PM | Link to this

I really would prefer not to get into this for fear of a “smack down” of @@, but it all started here:

By Liberals Suck And Lie March 25, 2006 07:57 PM | Link to this

DavidU: Please don’t make me classify these people on the list, I really don’t want to go there. Consider this my nod to multiculturalism, you won’t see it happen very often.

I read it differently, as usual…DavidU, I think LS&L was trying to avoid the observation he had made on the link out of respect for you. I believe you have mentioned that you are of hispanic decent He didn’t generalize in that respect.

There is no way of proving that everybody was viewing the same statistics.

Truly, I think that this got way out of hand. Go ahead, smack me down. This is the blogosphere, it won’t hurt. It really never should for anybody here.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this

@@, You are entitled to your opinion, but I think that one glance at that link to DEKALB sex offenders will disabuse you of your kindliness towards Suck. Then again, I could be wrong. Check it out for yourself. Most of the men are African American or Caucasian. There are very few Hispanics. Suck got caught in his racism and he lied trying to get out of it.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 10:47 PM | Link to this

@@, Besides, Hispanics are not considered to live in ghettoes or to constitute a permanent underclass, as Suck later avowed.

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 10:49 PM | Link to this

@@- If it was true I wouldn’t mind him making that truthful observation, but there is just no way. I even took into account that 10% of those who look African American could be Puerto Rican, Dominican or another Caribbean nationality; And still there is no majority of Latinos on that page. He specified Dekalb as the county that he had looked up the information.

It’s just a discussion, tomorrow hopefully we will discuss something new or we could go back to the original adoption discussion. So no love lost.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 10:50 PM | Link to this

@@,

We aren’t talking statistics, but a couple of pages of names and faces. No way to misunderstand that. Check out the link.

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 10:52 PM | Link to this

By the way RW has some great info he linked on how Russia may or may not have sold us down the river before the invasion of Iraq. It’s a definite read.

By Paul Nally

March 25, 2006 10:52 PM | Link to this

2 Cents and a Night in Jail (God does have a sense of humor)

Let me tell you a short story I think you’ll really love. It’s about an elderly gentleman who had evidence of malfeasant conduct in the Bartow County school system. His name is Jesse Weldon.

Mr. Weldon was tired of getting the run-around so he goes to the Board meeting and puts in his two cents worth. (you’ll see what 2 cents is really worth)

Now, it just happens that some of the board members didn’t like what they heard, so they had a former county sheriff go take warrants for Mr. Weldon, which he did.

Next comes the current Sheriff’s deputies late at night and haul him to lockup. Don’t matter that he’s never been arrested for anything before, or that they could have simply asked him to show up in the morning for arraignment. No! They got “orders to take him in now”, recent heart attack or not! Yep, he was recovering from a heart attack.

Now, by God Almighty, we’ll teach him to upset our little apple cart; we’ll show him we don’t have to do what the law says!

Well, after a couple of years waiting for justice from a charge that had already been declared unconstitutional by the State Supreme Court when the idiot Magistrate signed the warrant, a grand jury finally no bills the case.

Now, Jesse may be old, and he may be infirmed, but he will, by the grace of the Almighty, have his day in court! So, he hires a lawyer, and the lawyer hires another lawyer, and they all go tripping over to the Federal Courthouse in Rome to file a 1983 action (4-06-CV-029). That’s the civil tort counterpart of federal criminal charges.

Now, at this point I should remind you of the recent SPLOST vote that passed, and a good thing it did. You see the Board, the ex-sheriff and the other resource officer didn’t file an answer, and that means that Mr. Weldon wins by default.

I don’t know about the rest of you, ‘cause you must really enjoy paying all these high school taxes, but I’m glad for Mr. Weldon. You see, the Board of Education is now in debt to him to the tune of one million dollars. Yep, that’s $1,000,000.00! Some return on 2 cents, and he says he ain’t through with them yet!

Oh, by the way, that’s your one million that won’t go toward your kid’s education!

Yes, God does have a sense of humor, and there’s more to this story, but only the few who really give a rat’s tail will bother to inquire and remember come next election.

The Pine Log Puddin’ Stick (Paul L. Nally)

By DavidU

March 25, 2006 10:55 PM | Link to this

And my 10% (^^^) is definitely a scientific assumption ;)

By @@

March 25, 2006 10:57 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState:

Excluding sociopaths, I can find some good in all people. I’ve seen it in LS&L. Maybe you missed it.

I follow everyone’s links here. That is why I am missing in action so much. I want to see all that I can. I appreciate his links and you deride him for them. I don’t understand that.

I’ll go ahead and recommend my book to you…”Napkin Notes on the Art of Living” By: Gary Michael Durst, Ph.D. It’s liberating.

I’m gone.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 11:02 PM | Link to this

@@,

Having grown up in the South, I am a little sensitive about that issue. I can find good in most other people, but I find it hard to find good in a racist, especially one who tries to present himself as not being one.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 11:07 PM | Link to this

Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.

By @@

March 25, 2006 11:26 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState:

I abhor racism, but I’m not seeing it in LS&L. It’s all in the individual perception. I think that he is opposed to the “Soft bigotry of low expectations”. That doesn’t define a racist to me.

Sincerely, that is how I view LS&L.

I would have to be in the same room where he was viewing the link in order to say unequivocally that I viewed the same thing he did.

I know that I can be overly sensitive when people belittle those with special needs. Maybe you were a little sensitive tonight because of your profession.

I’m O.K. with agreeing to disagree. I’m with DavidU, we need to get a good night’s rest. Oops! I’m not with DavidU getting a night’s rest! Oh well, you know what I mean.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

By finch

March 25, 2006 11:36 PM | Link to this

@@,

Andy’s no dummy, but he sometimes gets carried away in some hyperbolic dragster. His criticisms get really personal, and it’s hard not to snap back. It’s too bad because his arguments would be taken a lot more seriously (by me, at least) if he didn’t get so rabid.

I don’t feel this way about you, or RW, or Buy Danish (to mention a few) because even though our discourse can get edgy and even confrontational, I think we generally treat eachother respectfully.

Plus, there are times when you guys are genuinely funny!

IMO, natch.

And now for something completely different, I’ll join DavidU’s pimping of RW’s blog. There’s fascinating stuff there on the whole Russia-Iraq-WMDs-Syria saga.

Shameless plug.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 11:36 PM | Link to this

@@,

Believe me the link hasn’t changed nor have his other comments.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 11:39 PM | Link to this

@@,

“Clueless: You keep overlooking the obvious, it’s been so good for the United States, giving us things like ghettos and a permanent underclass. I’ll keep trying to focus everyone back on reality and make America better. Deal?”

The obvious being all the black faces in a Dekalb county list of felons.

By WashingtonState

March 25, 2006 11:45 PM | Link to this

finch,

I guess that is as good a place to leave it as any, though I wish I had had more support from other members besides you and DavidU in exposing Andy’s racism. Despite what @@ thinks, there is nothing soft about Suck’s brand of racism. To try and blame all sexual assault on children in this country on minority groups is a little over the edge.

By Fred

March 26, 2006 01:00 AM | Link to this

How fitting. BUSHIT. Describes the entire family from GHW “Bailout Bush” aviator to GW, AWOL aviator, to multi-felonious Neil, to family values (theft & booze & drugs) Jeb, to Beast Mama Barbara. Nice.

By Washington State is a Race Baiter

March 26, 2006 06:26 AM | Link to this

@@ 10:30: Thank you for pointing out the obvious, I was trying not to generalize anything. I don’t see skin color quite as readily as some others in here do. I’m married to a minority, how can I be a racist?

What it is in here is that some of the more dull, stupid posters, like let’s say Washington State, don’t like me contradicting the ignorant pinko propaganda that they spew in here all day. They are too stupid to realize that discrimination against the clergy is not free just because liberals do it, it is still promoting hate against a group, without proof of what they say.

By WashingtonState March 25, 2006 11:39 PM The obvious being all the black faces in a Dekalb county list of felons.

You are not supposed to say things like this, remember, you dull duma-ss.

Isn’t this some s-hit? He baits me all night long because I won’t say it, then in his stupid fit of glorious fury, he says it? What a stupid clod.

And who was it that said there was anything wrong with pointing out the obvious in the first place? This is racism?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 06:41 AM | Link to this

“Journalists strive daily to keep bias out of news pages”

War cruel to Iraq’s children Even schools no longer safe refuges Alexandra Zavis, Bushra Juhi - Associated Press Sunday, March 26, 2006

So is that American soldiers being cruel to children or is it Al Qaeda? Who do you think the libs want you to believe?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 06:56 AM | Link to this

See what I mean:

It’s obvious that the proposed new sex offender law is just a liberal attempt to keep conservative preachers out of Georgia churches.

Liberals sticking up for the rights of pedophiles by falsely accusing the Church. It’s the new safe, cowardly form of bigotry, a perfect place to vent their race hatred now that they can’t burn crosses and wear pointy hats.

By Suck sure does

March 26, 2006 07:10 AM | Link to this

This is how Suck argues. When someone tops him, he looks for something terrible that may have affected the other persons neighborhood, like Washington States neighborhood… and he gloats. This is the product of a very sick mind.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 25, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Seven Dead in Seattle Shooting Saturday, March 25, 2006

SEATTLE — A gunman opened fire Saturday morning in a rental home occupied by 20 young partygoers, killing six and critically injuring at least one other before committing suicide when confronted by police outdoors.

“Civil war” in Seattle? Is it a quagmire in Clueless’s neighborhood?

Sick. Sick sick sick. Suck is sick.

By Eric Deming

March 26, 2006 07:28 AM | Link to this

Likes to Suck and Then Lie About it-

Now we are the ones with the KKK lineage? You are crazy, contact Rush get some drugs to combat your craziness he has a good dealer.

By N-GA

March 26, 2006 07:43 AM | Link to this

Borrowed these lyrics from another blogger. He/she titles it “The GOP’ers Lament”. To the tune of: God Bless The USA

When tomorrow all the things are gone, We’ve worked for all our lives, And the Right has saved the Nation, From homosexuals and their wives,

I’ll wish on every star, We’d had Clinton here today. Or perhaps to hear that Howard Scream And make it go away.

And it’s hard to be a Republican, Where I thought my lunch was free. And I won’t forget the ones who lied, And sold that crap to me.

And I’d give my tax cut if I could, But my job moved to Bombay. ‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I bought the scam, That screwed the USA.

From the words of Bill O’Reilly, That I heard on my TV, From Bob Novak, and Rush Limbaugh, It all made sense to me.

Anyone who spoke against us, Was playin’ a dangerous game. But now my country’s become a laughing stock, And the GOP’s to blame.

And it’s hard to be a Republican, Where I thought my lunch was free. And I won’t forget the ones who lied, And sold that crap to me. And I’d take my vote back if I could, Now my grandkids have to pay.

‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I bought the scam, That screwed the USA.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 07:55 AM | Link to this

Eric Duma-ss: Shortly after Robert Byrd, Democrat, West Virginia, joined the KKK, he recruited approximately 150 of his friends, associates and others to form a local chapter of the Ku Klux Klan. After Byrd had collected the $10 joining fee and $3 charge for a robe and hood from every applicant, the Grand Dragon Joel L. Baskin for the mid-Atlantic states came down to tiny Crab Orchard, W.Va., to officially organize the chapter… “When it came time to choose the Exalted Cyclops, the top officer in the local Klan unit, Byrd won unanimously.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 07:58 AM | Link to this

By Suck sure does March 26, 2006 07:10 This is how Suck argues

This was my sarcastic response to the stupid POS liberals in here and at the AJC that gloat over the deaths of Iraqi citizens and American soldiers. You are the bloodthirsty ghoul, I am the smart as-s.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

Eric Duma-ss: I dare you or any other gimp liberal to show me a Conservative political forum that has as much race hatred as the Washington Post:

Ted Rall’s comic strip labeling Condoleezza Rice “Bush’s house &&&&&” crossed every last line of civility.

Q. What do you call a black conservative who works for the Bush Administration?

A. A house &&&&&! Ha-ha-ha! Now pass the cornpipe, paw.

Where would you expect to find such a joke? Why, in the Washington Post, of course.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 08:08 AM | Link to this

Eric Duma-ss: How about this one from you KKK’ers?

STATEMENT BY PRESIDENT BUSH NAMING DR. CONDOLEEZZA RICE HEIR TO THE POSITION OF “&&&&&&& SECRETARY OF STATE NO ONE PAYS ANY ATTENTION TO”

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this

Eric Duma-ss: This one should give you pinko racists plenty of giggles:

The Appalling Left

By eric deming

March 26, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

Likes to Suck and then Lie about It-

I’m glad you know how to google, it’s really becoming a lost art.

By eric deming

March 26, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this

Likes to suck and then Lie about it-

Why are you repeating links? At least wait a couple of post before you post the same link again. Are you getting desperate?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this

eric duma-ss: Would you prefer that all of the liberal racist hatred remained buried where no one can see it?

By eric deming

March 26, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

Likes to Suck and Lie About IT-

I finally found where this guy (andy. Suck, Liberals Suck and Lie and what ever else he uses) gets his talking points from….I cannot believe no one noticed. Here is Sucks platform:

This is the The Knights’ Party Platform, I would provide the link but I do not want to advertise his Party’s web page.

Not to be confused with the Republican Party, he is a fringe group, a splinter group

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 08:55 AM | Link to this

Gosh, eric duma-ss busted me! Not. Like I want to deport every body but my wife. That’s cute.

Besides which I’m talking about racist forums not extreme right wing. You know, like this:

Belafonte won’t back down from Powell House reference

NEW YORK (BNW) — Singer Harry Belafonte is holding his ground and on Tuesday refused to back down from his remarks last week calling Secretary of State Colin Powell a house in the Bush administration. Belafonte said his problems are not with the man but with the policies Powell is supporting.

Now that is some good old fashioned left wing liberal racism. Top that, clown.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this

Just for good measure on Robert Byrd, Democrat, KKK, West Virginia:

[June 10, 1964 Civil Rights Act Legislation Filibuster Ended](http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/CivilRightsFilibuster_Ended.htm

At 9:51 on the morning of June 10, 1964, Senator Robert C. Byrd completed an address that he had begun 14 hours and 13 minutes earlier. The subject was the pending Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Never in history had the Senate been able to muster enough votes to cut off a filibuster on a civil rights bill. And only once in the 37 years since 1927 had it agreed to cloture for any measure.

It passed despite the Democratic opposition.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

Just for good measure on Robert Byrd, Democrat, KKK, West Virginia:

June 10, 1964 Civil Rights Act Legislation Filibuster Ended

At 9:51 on the morning of June 10, 1964, Senator Robert C. Byrd completed an address that he had begun 14 hours and 13 minutes earlier. The subject was the pending Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Never in history had the Senate been able to muster enough votes to cut off a filibuster on a civil rights bill. And only once in the 37 years since 1927 had it agreed to cloture for any measure.

It passed despite the Democratic opposition.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this

I got some time, the democrats got some hate:

Dan Rather: Rather, the well known television anchor for CBS, is also a liberal Democrat who has spoken at fundraisers for the Democrat party in the past. The notoriously left wing reporter appeared on the Don Imus radio show on July 19, 2001 where he was interviewed about his long term refusal to cover the Gary Condit (D-CA) scandal involving an affair with a missing intern despite the scandal’s national prominence. Rather noted on the air that CBS had basically forced him to cover the story that was on every other network and on the front page of all the major newspapers, all this after Rather avoided it for months. Rather stated on the air, refering to CBS, that “they got the Buckwheats” and made him cover the Condit scandal. The term “Buckwheat” is considered an offensive racial stereotype that stems from an easily frightened black character named “Buckwheat” on the Little Rascals comedies. It is widely regarded as a racial epithet and has long been condemned as an offensive stereotype by several civil rights organizations. In several past incidents (see here and here) the use of the epithet “Buckwheat” has recieved condemnation by the NAACP, Al Sharpton and other left wing organizations. These left wing organizations and personalities have demanded that other media personalities be fired over using the epithet, and even staged a protest at a school over the mere allegation that the racist stereotype had been used by a teacher. Yet these same liberal groups have, to date, remained completely silent now that one of their own, Dan Rather, is guilty of using the same offensive racial stereotype they have condemned elsewhere on a national radio show. It’s just more proof of how the left wingers who cry the loudest with accusations of racism against others turn a blind eye when somebody of their own left wing ideology is the undeniable culprit of a blatantly racist act or statement!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

Lots of hate them liberals got:

Billy McKinney: Former Democrat State Representative Billy McKinney of Georgia, who is also the father of former Democrat congresswoman Cynthia McKinney of the same state. During his daughter’s failed 2002 reelection bid, McKinney appeared on television where he blamed his daughter’s difficulties on a Jewish conspiracy. McKinney unleashed a string of anti-semitic sentiments, stating “This is all about the Jews” and spelling out “J-E-W-S.” McKinney lost his own seat in a runoff a few weeks later.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this

The liberals got some famous bigots too:

Democrat Senators organized the record Senate filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Included among the organizers were several prominent and well known liberal Democrat standard bearers including:

- Robert Byrd, Democrat, KKK, current senator from West Virginia

- J. William Fulbright, Democrat, Arkansas senator and political mentor of Bill Clinton.

- Albert Gore Sr., Democrat, Tennessee senator, father and political mentor of Al Gore. Gore Jr. has been known to lie about his father’s opposition to the Civil Rights Act (Algore Lie? No way!).

- Sam Ervin, Democrat, North Carolina senator of Watergate hearings fame

- Richard Russell, Democrat, famed Georgia senator and later President Pro Tempore

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

A legacy that lives even today:

Democrat opposition to the Civil Rights Act was substantial enough to literally split the party in two. A whopping 40% of the House Democrats VOTED AGAINST the Civil Rights Act, while 80% of Republicans SUPPORTED it. Republican support in the Senate was even higher. Similar trends occurred with the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which was supported by 82% of House Republicans and 94% of Senate Republicans. The same Democrat standard bearers took their normal racists stances, this time with Senator Fulbright leading the opposition effort.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

Let us not forget (even though NPR leaves your boy’s political affilition blank, someday Wallace will be a Republican, you watch):

Morning Edition, June 11, 2003 · Forty years ago today, Alabama Gov. George Wallace, {Democrat,} stood at the door of Foster Auditorium at the University of Alabama in a symbolic attempt to block two black students, Vivian Malone and James Hood, from enrolling at the school. The drama of the nation’s division over desegregation came sharply into focus that June day. NPR’s Debbie Elliott reports.

By N-GA

March 26, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

The Olympic Class bed wetter is correct. The Dixiecrats did oppose the civil rights legislation because they were southern racists. After the legislation passed, the south gradually turned republican as a result. Republicans represent the NEW rascism in America…..fascists…..neo-nazis….white nascar nation…..skinheads….the land of crystal meth…people with more tattoos than teeth…

By N-GA

March 26, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

…..and then the democratic party was purged of rascists as they flocked to the republican right.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

The beginnings of liberal racism:

John Calhoun, Democrat Party Founder, South Carolina, led the pro-slavery faction in the Senate in the 1830s and 1840s, opposing both abolitionism and attempts to limit the expansion of slavery into the western territories. Where other Southern politicians had excused slavery as a necessary evil, in a famous February 1837 speech on the Senate floor, Calhoun went further, defending slavery as a “positive good.” He rooted this claim on two grounds—white supremacy and paternalism. All societies, Calhoun claimed, are ruled by an elite group which enjoys the fruits of the labor of a less-privileged group.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

Dixiecrats Triumphant

The secret history of Woodrow Wilson.

By Charles Paul Freund

It was Inauguration Day, and in the judgment of one later historian, “the atmosphere in the nation’s capital bore ominous signs for Negroes.” Washington rang with happy Rebel Yells, while bands all over town played “Dixie.” The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, whose role it was to swear in the newly elected Southern president, was himself a former member of the Ku Klux Klan. Meanwhile, “an unidentified associate of the new Chief Executive warned that since the South ran the nation, Negroes should expect to be treated as a servile race.” Somebody had even sent the new president a possum, an act supposedly “consonant with Southern tradition.”

This is not an alternate-world scenario imagining the results of a Strom Thurmond victory in 1948. It really happened on March 4, 1913, the day Woodrow Wilson, Democrat of Virginia and Georgia moved into the White House. The portrait of his Inauguration Day is drawn from historian Lawrence J. Friedman’s The White Savage: Racial Fantasies in the Postbellum South (1970).

By @@

March 26, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

LS&L:

I’m on my way out the door. You may be too. But if you have time, could you pull up some links representing some of the “more progressive thinking” African American leaders who never seem to be sought out by the Democratic party?

The ones who truly want the African American community to succeed rather than remain oppressed under the liberal left wing of the party.

I like those, they offer me hope for a brighter future.

By eric deming

March 26, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

I think I may have struck a nerve!

Mental note: Do not out Sucks preaching of The Knights’ Party Platform for fear he will go link crazy and attempt to destroy the Google search servers.

By N-GA

March 26, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

I borrowed this from an article by Paul Rockwell:

“So long as the leadership of the Democratic Party upheld its progressive mandate, the credibility of the party remained high. Lyndon Johnson, once a segregationist himself, earned worldwide respect for the passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, commended the freedom fighters who marched in Selma and sang “We Shall Overcome.” In January 1966 Johnson and Congress got unprecedented high ratings in the polls for liberal legislation. A Harris poll rated public approval of the Great Society legislation: Medicare for the aged, 82 percent; federal aid to education, 90 percent, excise tax cuts, 92 percent; the voting rights act, 95 percent.”

Johnson and the democratic party crafted the civil rights legislation…the dixiecrats opposed it and, in defeat, moved to the republican party.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

Oh look, here’s the wanker N-GA with no proof as usual, we just get to trust him and his lies. You aren’t too stupid to reasearch your claims, are you?

By AntiRadical

March 26, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

Mouse Testicle Cells Behave Like Stem Cells

We’ve heard this one many times before. Stem cells have been isolated from umbilical cord blood, bone marrow, skin, muscle tissue, etc. They are called “multipotent adult progenitor cells”, or MAPCs.

MAPCs have many promising applications but sadly, to date, they have proven to be unacceptable substitutes for ESCs in the generation of new stem cell family lines; they have proven to still be too differentiated. Even Dr. Catherine Verfaillie, the director of early MAPCs research at the U of Minn now admits that ESC, embryonic stem cell, research must continue.

Everyone should hope and pray that continued efforts in the research of MAPCs will yield the “holy grail” (method of stem cell line production independent of embryonic material). I suspect that the current efforts by Dr. Hasenfuss of the Georg-August-University of Goettingen that is the subject of the testicular stem cell article will again prove to be another red herring but we can always hope.

I also hope that we can overcome our prejudices and allow the use of embryonic material that would otherwise be discarded. The greatest beneficiaries (children) can not wait for decades to see any possible benefit from MAPCs. It is encouraging that public opinion (even conservative religious opinion) is slowly shifting to embrace ESC usage in limited form.

Until recently, the far right had derided the potential benefit from stem cell usage to be unproven and impractical. Recent major news stories such as Don Ho’s recent highly successful transplant with stem cells (in Thailand) to treat his failing heart, and video footage of spinal cord severage repair allowing mouse models to regain the ability to walk have proven to the lay public that ESCs do deliver on the promises that have been claimed for them.

It continues to confound me that when we “play God” by removing an egg from a human female, fertilize it with human male sperm in vitro, and implant it back into the donor so that she can have children that she could not otherwise have, we are labeled “saints”. When we use that same “non-Godly” created embryo to save the life of children with progeria, cystic fibrosis, or leukemia; we are labled “baby-killers” and fiends whose only desire is to kill unborn fetuses or creators of blasphemous human cloning. Sounds a little facetious to me but what do I know, I am only a “professional”. (inside joke for Buy Danish)

By N-GA

March 26, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

Then Johnson’s administration crashed and burned because of a war nobody wanted. You would think that smart people would learn from history.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

@@: Your right, I have a sermon in my near future. I will find the examples you are looking for when I get back, I can think of Michael Steele, Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas among others. There should be plenty of material.

By N-GA

March 26, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

My goodness, the Bed Wetter is talking to me again after blogging that he wasn’t going to do that anymore. What wonderful resolve.

He cannot accept the truth. Like the rest of his ilk, he continues to ignore facts.

• Iraq war is bad

• budget deficit is bad

• neo-cons are bad

• cons won’t fix social security

• cons won’t fix medicare

• cons like to sell oil and gouge Americans

Too much truth bed wetter????

By WashingtonState

March 26, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

Suck,

By your own words you incriminate yourself:

“By WashingtonState March 25, 2006 11:39 PM The obvious being all the black faces in a Dekalb county list of felons.

You are not supposed to say things like this, remember, you dull duma-ss.

Isn’t this some s-hit? He baits me all night long because I won’t say it, then in his stupid fit of glorious fury, he says it? What a stupid clod.”

If you were the innocent you claim to be, why didn’t you pick Pickens County for your example? I don’t see a single Black face in their list of convicted sex felons? But no, you pick a county that is largely Black, post their list, and then pretend you are an angel. That is the kind of racism that not only is dispicable, but cowardly as well.

By WashingtonState

March 26, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

Suck,

The only other explanation I can see is that you are a lot dumber than you seem to be and I can’t really buy that.

By WashingtonState

March 26, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this

The only thing sadder is that only three people called you on it.

By WashingtonState

March 26, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

Suck,

One final word, it is not what you say, it is what is in your heart. I think you have shown us all what is in yours.

By Scooter

March 26, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

“The bill was promised by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963,[1] in which he asked for legislation that would provide “the kind of equality of treatment which we would want for ourselves.” He then sent the bill to Congress on June 19, when it was introduced in Congress by Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield. Kennedy was unable to advance the bill, but after his death, the President Lyndon Johnson decided to use his power in Congress to pass it. Despite an 83-day filibuster in the Senate by Southern Democrats, both parties in Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Act, and President Johnson signed the bill into law on July 2, 1964.”

“…there were notable exceptions. Republican senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona voted against the bill, remarking, “You can’t legislate morality”. Most Democrats from the Southern states opposed the bill, including Tennessee senator Albert Gore Sr., Arkansas senator J. William Fulbright, and West Virginia senator Robert Byrd. Goldwater went on to secure his party’s nomination for the presidency, and in the ensuing election, Goldwater won only his home state of Arizona and five of the Deep South states — four of which had not voted Republican since the disputed presidential election of 1876. This marked the end of the Solid South.”

By clark

March 26, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this

Washington; Relax just a little bit, you come off too strong, almost on a personal mission. That guy occasionally says some crazy things, but still, you are almost harassing the man.

It’s funny because we all see him go into ‘spin’ mode. But just reel it back in a little bit.

amen

By Scooter

March 26, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this

Democrats won’t give up control of Social Security, by allowing individual liberty over those funds. Then N-GA says cons won’t fix it.

By Suck sure does

March 26, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

Incredible. Suck spends 4 hours of a Sunday morning here madly ranting. He sure is a family values kind of guy. Im sure he convinced nobody of anything except hes obsessed. Its bizarre that this blog should take over his life.

Suck, I havent seen anyone here gloat over deaths in Iraq. Why do you make things up?

But you cheer over a multiple murder in Seattle. Even if posts did gloat over Iraq deaths what does it say about you when you gloat back? It says youre mental..

Sick. Really really sick.

By DavidU

March 26, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

Thousands Across America Rally for Immigrants’ Rights

By all accounts about 500,000 marched in a perfectly peaceful demonstration Saturday in LA.

By finch

March 26, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

I guess our favorite homophobe (clark - he occasionally says some crazy things?) was so busy posting this morning that he forgot to read his favorite fishwrap.

“Domestic partners eligible for pensions”

When Atlanta sought to institute domestic partnership health benefits for city employees during the 1990s, a battle raged in and out of court for six years before the measure took effect. Last week, when Mayor Shirley Franklin extended those benefits to include city pensions, the noise was no louder than the sound of her pen scratching her signature on a new city law.

While the issue of gay marriage is being fought in courtrooms in at least seven states — and in Georgia in 2004, voters overwhelming passed an amendment making gay marriage illegal — governments are quietly and increasingly extending marriage benefits to unmarried couples.

It’s the end of the world as we know it…

And I feel fine!

By getalife

March 26, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

Washington State,

The only thing sadder is that only three people called you on it.

Some people already know Andy and his opionions. I will say this:

In the monster “Freedom” thread the girl who wrote it was mentioning personal information and Andy along with myself told her not to . He was very kind and encouraging to her. He does have a right to voice his opinion.

By clark

March 26, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

finch; just giving the guy the benefit of the doubt regarding the crazy rants he goes on.

By DavidU

March 26, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

An Afghan court on Sunday dismissed a case against a man who converted from Islam to Christianity because of a lack of evidence, and he will be released soon, an official said.

I hope someone picked him up as soon as he was released, drove him to an airport and got him out of the country.

By RW-(the original)

March 26, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

That’s what I was thinking when I heard that. I can picture the guy saying, “You mean released to walk out there?”

By getalife

March 26, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

Earlier Sunday he was moved to a notorious maximum-security prison outside Kabul that is also home to hundreds of Taliban and al-Qaida militants. The move to Policharki Prison came after detainees threatened his life at an overcrowded police holding facility in central Kabul, a court official said on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media.

Talk about being in the thick of it. It says he converted years ago:

Rahman had faced the death penalty under Afghanistan’s Islamic laws for converting 16 years ago while working as a medical aid worker for an international Christian group helping Afghan refugees in Pakistan.

By DavidU

March 26, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this

RW- Not to be insensitive or anything but however it is that they kill you in the Afghan Gov’t, it has to be better than getting stoned to death (by stones!).

I’m pretty sure anything is a better way to go than getting stoned to death by an angry mob.

By getalife

March 26, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

You mean like this

By hh

March 26, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

Liberals Suck sucks.

By DavidU

March 26, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

getalife- I don’t know why, by when I see that all I can think of is that scene in BraveHeart.

By RW-(the original)

March 26, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

If it’s like they do it in Saudi Arabia they drive you around until they find a crowd, pull over and cut your head off in the street. So I’m not sure how much better it is.

getalife,

You better head over to my place and plot a strategy. DavidU is trying to cut you out of something very nice.

By AntiRadical

March 26, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this

In appears that the AJC article regarding the release of the Afghan Christian convert may have been premature. Wolf Blitzer had Condi Rice on this AM and reported that the case is being sent back down to the lower courts in order to acquire more evidence instead.

We would think that the Afghanis would have enough reason to understand this to be an insufferable PR nightmare for them and to back-off. This is not a sector of the world known for its’ reasonableness, however. The “can’t be tried ‘cause he’s crazy” approach sounds like the tactic that will be most acceptable to resolve the situation to Afghanis and is what I expect. Who knows when you are dealing with extremists, though!

BTW- Blitzer had a pretty good discussion regarding Iraq’s new constitution that has the same identical language that the Afghani constitution does regarding Islamic converts because they were largely authored by the same individual. GWB must be thinking that with “friends” like these, who needs enemies!

By rushncap

March 26, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

So do you think Condi and Shrubby would have been this concerned about the poor guy had he converted to, say, Hinduism?

By DavidU

March 26, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

RW- I’ll add getting burned alive.

Burned alive and stoned to death. Worst ways to go. What a great conversation for a Sunday morning!

By DavidU

March 26, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

rushncap - I think so…as long as the media had at least reported on it.

AntiRadical- I don’t think they care about mental competency in Afghan law (forgot the name). And if they do let the guy go, bad PR at home. If they follow through on their laws and execute him, bad PR internationally. Bad place to be stuck.

By @@

March 26, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

Since, in this country, you are allowed to choose and practice the religion of your choice, I’m certain Bush & Condi would be just as concerned had he chosen Hinduism.

It’s freedom of religion. No particular religion implied.

By AntiRadical

March 26, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

DavidU- I totally agree. It looks like the insanity defense is the path of least resistance for Afghanis though and has been floated by them in passing over the past week. In truth, who knows what these nuts are going to come up with? They hate Christians almost as much as they hate Jews, afterall.

By PinestrawGuy

March 26, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

I hate to change the subject here because I know how much you guys hate changing gears, but did you watch the protests in L.A.? 500,000 people waving flags and chanting, WOW! do any of you know what they were chanting?Would you like to know?

It sure opened MY eyes!!!

By DavidU

March 26, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

PinestrawGuy- hmmm…no I did not see that type at the demonstration in LA or about their slogan in anything I’ve read or seen in Fox, CNN, CBS or even the 700 Club. Even their website, that you supplied, has no mention of participating in the protest.

Do these people exist, yes. The reason why you associated it with a peaceful protest of 500,000 in LA, I have no idea.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

Via DrudgeSaddam planned to deploy ‘camels of mass destruction’

Saddam Hussein planned to use “camels of mass destruction” as weapons to defend Iraq, loading them with bombs and directing them towards invading forces.

If the translation is correct, it suggests that many of the foreign fighters now attacking coalition forces and bombing Iraqi civilians were directly trained by the Saddam regime, although there are no known reports of camels being used in suicide attacks.

I bet Saddam figured out that if he did this he would lose PETA’s support.

Meanwhile, check out the paragraph that mentions plans to disseminate pro-jihadi propaganda. That’s odd! I thought that Saddam was an avowed secularist.

By getalife

March 26, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

I saw that on Lou Dobbs. He is all over the immigration issue.

I think Mexico is missing the boat on outscourcing for cheap labor. There should be a jobs in Mexico due to the current trend for outscourcing.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

Pinestraw,

Here’s a pretty good article on some of these groups - principally La Raza, MALDEF, and LULAC.

“California is going to be a Mexican state; we are going to control all the institutions. If people don’t like it they should leave.” That chilling warning was given by 1998 Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient and founder of MALDEF, Mario Obeldo… Between 1996 and 1998 MALDEF raised over 9 million dollars from the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Corporation to advance this goal.

I don’t know if Ford, Rockefeller, and Carnegie had this sort of activism in mind when they were still alive and kicking.

By DavidU

March 26, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

LULAC (the League of United Latin American Citizens) and MALDEF (The Mexican-American Legal Defense and Education Fund), all of whom fight for civil rights of residents (legal or otherwise) of Latin American decent.

Where is the love? They never knocked on my door to help in my quest to naturalization? Not Cool. Not Cool

By PinestrawGuy

March 26, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this

The Ford Foundation and Anheuser-Busch give millions of dollars a year to La Raza, Maldef, MEChA, et cetera as does Home Depot, Wal-Mart and our own Government.

The protests depicted at that site were also held in Southern California within the last year. You don’t think they’re ‘like-minded’? Don’t be foolish, DavidU.

The reason you don’t see that stuff on the MSM is because those Globalist Pigs WANT Americans to think ‘They’re just hard-working, good-hearted souls trying to make a better life for their families doing jobs Americans won’t do.’

What a load of dung THAT is. The government is very complicit in the destruction of the American Middle Class and this invasion of illegals is the first shot across the bow in the New Mexican Revolution.

La Raza motto: “For the Race everything, for those outside the Race, nothing”

Look it up.

By getalife

March 26, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this

Here is what is going on in Iraq today

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

How to make Alan Colmes squirm - use a Democrat 9/11 Commission member’s statements to challenge the prevailing Dem Party talking points:

The new documents suggest that the 9/11 commission’s final conclusion in 2004, that there were no “operational” ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda, may need to be reexamined in light of the recently captured documents.

While the commission detailed some contacts between Iraq and Al Qaeda in the 1990s, in Sudan and Afghanistan, the newly declassified Iraqi documents provide more detail than the commission disclosed in its final conclusions…

“This is a very significant set of facts,” former 9/11 commissioner, Mr. Kerry said yesterday. “I personally and strongly believe you don’t have to prove that Iraq was collaborating against Osama bin Laden on the September 11 attacks to prove he was an enemy and that he would collaborate with people who would do our country harm. This presents facts should not be used to tie Saddam to attacks on September 11. It does tie him into a circle that meant to damage the United States.”

Stay tuned.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

RE,

This story is for you:

Iraq’s embassy to Canada lashed out at the Christian Peacemaker Teams Friday, calling them “phoney pacifists” and “dupes” after the antiwar group responded to the rescue of three of its kidnapped activists by condemning the U.S.-led military intervention in Iraq.

The Iraqi embassy called CPT “willfully ignorant” and “outrageous,” and accused the Chicago-based group of being on the side of anti-democratic forces in Iraq.

“The Christian Peacemaker Teams practises the kind of politics that automatically nominate them as dupes for jihadism and fascism,” the embassy’s statement said.

The Daily Telegraph in London is reporting today that the Christian activists refused to fully co-operate with an intelligence unit sent to debrief them. Based on an interview with a security source, the newspaper claims the activists said co-operating would contradict their Christian principles.

By DavidU

March 26, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

BD- Still waiting for 9/11-Saddam connection. That’s what I’m waiting for, I don’t know about everyone else. But that’s what I’m waiting for. Saddam financing Osama in the Philippines in the early 90 is not that.

Why are you messing with my man Colmes? :)

By DavidU

March 26, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this

PinestrawGuy- I know, La Raza is a stupid fringe group whose members have not realized that they are protesting for literally going back to Mexico yet the majority of them cannot carry a conversation in Spanish without dropping ‘like’ and ‘you know’ every 4th Spanish word and then just giving up and speaking in English. Stop the hate, Go to school, get a job, shut up. that’s my advice to them.

They are not an accurate representation of Latino immigrants.

Ok I’m going to get off the soap box, and back to the George Mason game

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

clark: Amen.

By RW-(the original)

March 26, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

You need to go have a talk with Nicole, she’s talking trash about your reporter babe.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

To focus on budget deficits is to pretend the burden of government spending would magically disappear if only it could be financed entirely from current tax revenue, rather than having a small portion (2.6 percent of GDP) financed by selling bonds. This is a dangerous delusion.

If the government had never borrowed a dime (which makes no more sense for governments than for homeowners and corporations), all that could have saved is the interest on the debt. But interest on the debt was only 1 percent of GDP over the last four years — the lowest since 1977 and lower than when the budget was in surplus.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

They are a very rich “fringe group”, with $24 million in revenue 2004 and $52 million in assets.

search La Raza

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

The concept of interpreting the Constitution as a changing, living, mystery Constitution — a mystery because the meaning has been hidden for years, is unknown to people of ordinary intelligence, and known only to members of the Supreme Court and not even all of them — was what politicized the judiciary.

To do so, I propose a constitutional amendment providing:

“The Constitution and the amendments thereto duly adopted in the future may be changed, modified, amended or added to only by amendment duly adopted as outlined in Article V of the Constitution. Neither the Supreme Court nor the inferior courts will create law, change, modify, amend, or add to the Constitution, but will interpret the Constitution and amendments in accordance with the common understanding of the relevant provision at the time it was adopted. This amendment does not affect the weight to be given prior decisions under the Doctrine of stare decisis.”

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

David U,

“Love it or leave it” Maldef must be quite jealous. They only had $4.5 million in revenue with $9.3 million is assets.

By DavidU

March 26, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

BD- The National Council of La Raza, although they back some policies that ruffle feathers are not the group that pushes for giving back the SW to Mexico. Which is the one I’m talking about.

La Raza is the one that backs the whole Aztlan movement.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

David U,

I forgot to post the link to Maldef

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

This much is certain: The welfare state as we know it cannot survive. No serious student of entitlements thinks that we can let federal spending on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid rise from its current 9% of gross domestic product to the 28% of GDP that it will consume in 2050 if past growth rates continue. The problems facing transfer programs for the poor are less dramatic but, in the long term, no less daunting; the falling value of a strong back and the rising value of brains will eventually create a class society making a mockery of America’s ideals unless we come up with something more creative than anything that the current welfare system has to offer.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 06:10 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

Thanks for the clarification. From what I can determine, The NC of La Raza is a mainstream organization that is part of the “open borders” lobby. Right or wrong?

By @@

March 26, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

And then there is something to be said from progressive black leaders. A new way of thinking when the old way doesn’t benefit anyone.

By DavidU

March 26, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

BD - I’m sure they support the “open borders” mantra. They are lobbyist for Latino issues, so I’m sure they back it directly or back a program or group that is associated with it. I would be shocked if they are not part of the “open borders” lobby.

The Ford Foundation is a big backer of that issue and they give a lot of money to the NCLR.

By >^..^<

March 26, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

I totally don’t get ml’s trump cartoon either

By @@

March 26, 2006 07:37 PM | Link to this

^..^<:

That is one interesting name you picked. It’s gonna make it real difficult for some to address you in here, but that may turn out to be a good thing.

Don’t worry, I don’t think anybody got the cartoon. Cat or fox?

By @@

March 26, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this

^..^< See, I cut off one of your whiskers. Sorry!

By @@

March 26, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this

I wonder if that would constitute a name misspelling?

By RW-(the original)

March 26, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

@@,

You may have to try a dot and a couple of spaces to “spell” this one. Not that I would know since I confuse typing with talking, but aren’t you drawing now?

By @@

March 26, 2006 07:56 PM | Link to this

R.W.:

I can’t believe you knew that!!! I’m having fun…..

By RW-(the original)

March 26, 2006 08:13 PM | Link to this

@@,

I see the survey is back, but they left out the dove dude this time.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 08:44 PM | Link to this

^..^<

Rw & @@,

Copy and Paste.

We know it’s a feline. When I did a google to confirm that a Fox was a Feline (Fox+feline?), it took me here

Warning: This website features Kama Sutra-esque drawings of various animals.

And some people think that ML bloggers need to “get a life”?

Enjoy. Or don’t.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 26, 2006 08:45 PM | Link to this

More than 25,000 evangelical Christian youth landed Friday in San Francisco for a two-day rally at AT&T Park against “the virtue terrorism” of popular culture, and they were greeted by an official city condemnation and a clutch of protesters who said their event amounted to a “fascist mega-pep rally.”

By RW-(the original)

March 26, 2006 09:00 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

What are you trying to do to the blogs reputation?

By @@

March 26, 2006 09:17 PM | Link to this

R.W./BD: The two of you just made a very interesting ^^^ sandwich.

By Souldrift

March 26, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this

LSAL, thanks for a useless diatribe on the welfare system and entitlements. Anything relevant to offer?

Blog and Tan

By Souldrift

March 26, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this

LSAL, thanks for a useless diatribe on the welfare system and entitlements. Anything relevant to offer?

Blog and Tan

By @@

March 26, 2006 10:09 PM | Link to this

Souldrift:

I just took a close look at your blog. Photographs are beautiful. I don’t know if this is relevant or not, but the photo you have titled “Ducks”….those are actually “Canadian Geese”.

By RW-(the original)

March 26, 2006 10:12 PM | Link to this

LS&L,

Unlike the previous poster I thought the Wall Street Journal article was extremely relevant. Thanks for posting it, I hope you don’t mind if I only post this once.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 10:15 PM | Link to this

Souldrift,

You’re repeating yourself. You’re repeating yourself.

By @@

March 26, 2006 10:27 PM | Link to this

Souldrift:

Just a thought! You could call if “foul”. That would cover it. The picture, that is.

By @@

March 26, 2006 10:33 PM | Link to this

Oops! Typo…make that “it” not “if”.

By RW-(the original)

March 26, 2006 10:36 PM | Link to this

@@,

Sonia is usually looking for someone to analyze pictures, you should stop by there.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 10:43 PM | Link to this

RW,

I had to wait to get back to you because I was laughing too hard. Did you find that when you were checking out the music of the presidents?

There’s still time to plan a trip to Brooklyn. And for Britney to hire some lawyers.

@@,

You’re right - that was an interesting sandwich. Between my contribution and RW’s, we’ve got enough fuel to double their numbers.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this

@@ & RW,

I don’t see the dove, and I don’t see ducks or geese. What’s the matter with me???

By @@

March 26, 2006 10:46 PM | Link to this

R.W.:

Does she serve sandwiches???? Oh….that’s right, she/he is part of the sandwich.

By RW-(the original)

March 26, 2006 10:51 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I don’t see the ducks or geese either, maybe because I don’t like the URL name of drifters blog and don’t go there. The dove is on a shirt of a guy that pops up on this page and damnit I’m sticking to that story.

I think the sandwich had more to do with the evangelical filling, but I’ll let @@ say whether I’m right.

By RW-(the original)

March 26, 2006 10:56 PM | Link to this

@@,

She/he claims to have very specific rules as to when a sandwich situation may occur. What’s funny about “Sonia” is that she/he mixes in some very good posts, but it’s the Forrest Gump “box of chocolates” scenario when you go there.

By @@

March 26, 2006 10:59 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish:

R.W.’s right about the guy popping up and the filling in the sandwich.

Although…..one counteracts the other.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 11:11 PM | Link to this

Testing. I posted something WAY more than 5 minutes ago.

By finch

March 26, 2006 11:18 PM | Link to this

Okay… sandwiches… feathered playmates…

The devil made me do this.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 11:24 PM | Link to this

RW,

I guess the post button temporarily malfunctioned. I thought that @@ was referring to the evangelicals also.

I need very specific instructions on how to see the dove. Does it require turning off the pop-up blocker? On second thought, maybe I’ll pass.

BTW, I see where Britney came from. I thought the pro-life bit was totally insincere and snarky, so I don’t even know why I was laughing.

By Buy Danish

March 26, 2006 11:36 PM | Link to this

finch,

Do they have the bird flu? And why is the turkey smoking? Is this a statement about Big Tobacco? (Just making fun of some who uber-analyze cartoons)

Adorable. Now I must go to sleep.

By WashingtonState

March 27, 2006 01:32 AM | Link to this

Regarding some statements that were made yesterday concerning homosexuality; life is not always simple. Gender and sexual identity are not always clear cut.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/110/3/e31

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 04:59 AM | Link to this

Cape Wind would construct 130 windmills off the coast of Massachusetts to harness the wind of Nantucket Sound, generating enough electricity to satisfy 75 percent of the needs of Cape Cod and the islands of Martha’s Vineyard and Nantucket, while exerting downward pressure on electricity prices throughout the New England region.

Leading the NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) brigade, Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy, a self-styled environmentalist whose family owns a sprawling waterfront compound on Cape Cod, opposes the project.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 05:16 AM | Link to this

For all the talk about Republican problems in the House and Senate races in 2006, it isn’t as though Democrats are faring much better. According to internal Democrat polling in the House, the party expects to pick up no more than three seats in the House, allowing for several losses by members in up-for-grabs districts.

That’s not enough to swing the balance of power in the House, and such a middling performance almost assuredly will doom the leadership career of House minority leader Nancy Pelosi, who is less popular among Democrats than President George W. Bush is among all Americans.

According to Hotline, a recent blogger’s online poll of 14,000 liberal Democrats found 67% disapproved of her. In fact, according to the Hotline, only 19 percent believe her to be even “marginally competent.” And these are her people!

That’s half of what Bush’s numbers are from all political denominations.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 05:20 AM | Link to this

The costs of illegal immigration are staggering. Dozens of hospitals in California and Texas may close because the unpaid burden of providing care for illegals is enormous. School budgets are routinely destroyed by the cost of educating illegals. And the crime committed by illegals — though the cost of keeping someone behind bars remains less than the statutory Congressional salary — is forcing states to spend tens of millions to keep those who commit crimes off our streets. And it’s not only California and Texas that suffer these costs. States from Iowa to South Carolina are feeling the same pinch.

Businesses who benefit from illegal immigrant employees argue that the benefit to our economy far outweighs the cost. But there is no data to support that claim, and any number of studies to show the cost to taxpayers is in the tens of billions every year.

By DavidU

March 27, 2006 05:44 AM | Link to this

Though most opponents of immigration are loath to admit it, at least publicly, they’re worried that the huge influx of Hispanics will somehow change America for the worse. And who can blame them for wondering whether the tremendous demographic shift that has taken place over the last few years won’t have unintended consequences?….some estimates predict that by mid-century one out of every three Americans will be of Hispanic heritage. Call it the browning of America….Will the United States become an extension of Latin America, or will the Melting Pot transform Hispanic immigrants into just another American ethnic group similar to the Irish, German, and Italian Americans who are descendants of previous immigrant flows? A study released this week by the U.S. Census Bureau gives reason for optimism that the latter path is more likely. ….Although a majority of Hispanic immigrants are low-skilled workers who lack even a high school education, that doesn’t necessarily mean they will be consigned to low-wage jobs indefinitely, creating a huge new underclass. …..The Census Bureau confirms that a great many immigrants are imbued with an entrepreneurial spirit that puts to shame those of us who were born here. In its study of Hispanic Entrepreneurship, the Census Bureau reports that Hispanics are opening businesses at a rate three times faster than the national average. There were almost 1.6 million Hispanic-owned businesses generating $222 billion in revenue in 2002.

By DavidU

March 27, 2006 05:51 AM | Link to this

First the President goes to India — China’s long-term rival and border contestant — and agrees to give India nuclear fuel. Then the Secretary of State goes to Southeast Asia for what are billed as “security talks” with Australia and Japan. Before she leaves she says China could become a “negative force” in the region. Then, during the meetings last week in Sydney, an anonymous member of the administration tells the The New York Times that the White House hopes China views those meetings with concern……The Bush administration is anxious about China’s soaring influence. Last week China announced another increase in its military budget, to the equivalent of $35 billion next year. And its booming economy is making China the powerhouse of Asia.

Treat China as our enemy and it could become our enemy. That would be a mistake as tragic as treating the Arab world as our enemy.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 06:41 AM | Link to this

How to Stop a Civil War By Michael O’Hanlon Monday, March 27, 2006; Page A15, Washington Post

Administration officials have been right in recent weeks to argue that there is no large-scale civil war underway in Iraq. As long as the Iraqi political leadership remains generally united in trying to calm the situation, and as long as sectarian violence remains more sporadic than strategic (with no systematic ethnic cleansing, for example), true civil war remains a threat rather than a reality. But as President Bush himself recognized in his March 13 speech on Iraq, whoever attacked the Golden Mosque in Samarra on Feb. 22 was trying to spark a civil war.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 06:49 AM | Link to this

But news travels slowly inside the intellectual, social and economic bubble known as the welfare state — of which the UAW was a leading architect in both the public and private sectors. Even now many UAW members consider a job in the auto industry a sort of property right. And the belief is still strong that what is good for the union is good for the country.

Premium pay, after all, helps prime the national pump, doesn’t it? Never mind the fact that this quaint Keynesian notion was long ago discredited. A given level of compensation is only sustainable if it’s earned through productivity and sales. Protectionism helped sustain the illusion that the corporate welfare state could work, but the market soon worked around it. Toyota and Honda and the others simply set up plants inside the United States itself in places like Alabama, Tennessee and South Carolina where unions would have trouble persuading workers to pay fees to get what they were already getting, a good day’s pay for a good day’s work.

By @@

March 27, 2006 07:31 AM | Link to this

WashingtonState:

Read your link at 1:32. Guessed the topic before I even opened it up. That has got to be the most difficult decisions that someone would have to make on behalf of child.

That particular topic doesn’t get sufficient exposure due to the small percentage of cases. It is one of those topics that complicates life as we know it. But believe me WashingtonState, I am aware of life’s complications, and I do the best that I can to take them into consideration in the way that I approach the issues.

Off to work to do what I can.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 07:53 AM | Link to this

I stopped laughing long enough to type this in:

On March 8, The New York Times ran a lengthy profile of Donna Fenton. The story described how much difficulty she and other victims of Hurricane Katrina were having in getting assistance from government agencies.

The Times issued Thursday this embarrassing correction after Ms. Fenton was arrested for grand larceny and welfare fraud:

“Prosecutors say she was not a Katrina victim, never lived in Biloxi and had improperly received thousands of dollars in government aid.

What a bunch of saps. They hate the Bush Administration so much that they carry the water for criminals now. This is the pinko media laid bare.

Remember what I said a long time ago about media overreaction to non problems just to make Bush look bad, politically motivated fabrications, was causing the United States to lose resources and capital. This is just one incident that got exposed. If the pinko media can lie at will with no concern for credibility, the so called “fake but accurate” syndrome, how many other Ms. Fentons are there?

And how many government bureaucrats had to scramble when this story first came out, leaving their regular work undone to put out this fake fire?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 08:01 AM | Link to this

Ms. Taylor is the wife of an Army sergeant who just returned from Iraq. At a town meeting in Wheeling, W.Va., on Wednesday, she told the president:

“It seems that our major media networks don’t want to portray the good. They just want to focus on another car bomb. They just want to focus (gloat) on some more bloodshed.” Her question was greeted by a standing ovation from nearly everyone in the packed hall.

ABC News received hundreds of e-mails after the town meeting. “The vast majority believed the media were biased in their Iraq coverage,” ABC acknowledged.

The media “jump at the chance to report completely unsubstantiated claims by Iraqis of killings or theft or abuse that simply isn’t credible when you know even the first thing about the American military,” said “Buck Sargent,” an infantry squad leader in Iraq, in an e-mail to radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt. “They give the ruthless killers the benefit of the doubt every time, just to spread more nonsense about us.”

I know a couple nonsense mongers right here in Atlanta.

By Non-Biased Media

March 27, 2006 08:21 AM | Link to this

In Baghdad Today: 84°F With Humidity at 27%. Tonight there will be a low of 63°F with 0% Precipitation.

By dubya

March 27, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

First day of a brand new week. How many new lies from the BUSHIT bunch will be revealed this week? How many lives will be slaughtered?

According to the geek who Sucks all is well in Iraq. Freedom/Decomcracy are on the march. Only in America - do we have that level of ignorance and he’s proud of it!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 08:45 AM | Link to this

Settle into a comfortable chair, cozy up to a cup of your favorite beverage and read all of the things about Iraq that the pinko media wouldn’t dream of telling you about:

March 27, 2006, 5:52 a.m. The Other Side of the Story A third update on good news from Iraq. By Bill Crawford

By DavidU

March 27, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

By 2003, the Iraqi military was reeling from 13 years of almost continuous engagement with Coalition air forces, the accumulating effects of sanctions, and the insidious impact of dysfunctional regime policies. These pressures had all helped to propel the Iraqi military into a state of chronic decline ….(“The Iraqi Perspectives Project” pg 40, by: The Joint Center for Operational Analysis a directorate within United States Joint Forces Command)

Glad to hear all the UN and US imposed sanctions worked.

By Suck sure does

March 27, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this

3 hours. That’s how much time Suck, the racist gay-hater has spent this morning posting useless pap anad ranting. 3 hours and counting.

*If the pinko media can lie at will with no concern for credibility… *

Since the Times is being slammed for their Katrina “victim” foulup, I would hardly say they are “lying at will with no credibility”.

The Times must deal with the consequences of its screw up. They are not trivial. This is as it should be.

Suck, do you have a real life?

By tim

March 27, 2006 08:55 AM | Link to this

Trump’s building an upscale hotel/commercial development in Toronto. As part of the deal he had to buy the old turf from the Rogers centre(nee Skydome).He thinks he’ll get 10 new toupee out of it .

By DavidU

March 27, 2006 08:55 AM | Link to this

Liberals S&L - I think Americans have to decide what they expect a regular day in Iraq to be in order to understand the news coming out everyday. Is it like a regular day in a US city (traffic, crime, etc). Or is it more in line with an average day in say Israel, Gaza, Colombia, or Nigeria (traffic, car bomb, crime, etc). What is the realistic outlook for Iraq?

By DavidU

March 27, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this

Haters.

By Buy Danish

March 27, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

A not so peaceful immigration demonstration.

Susana Findley, a Gary native whose parents were born in Mexico, said illegal immigrant workers arrived here for the same reason federation members’ ancestors arrived: To find work and a better life.

“But those racist immigrants forget about that,” said Findley, nodding toward the federation’s camp

When 63-year-old Chicago Minuteman member Rick Biesada arrived and pulled out his protest sign, he claimed that two counterprotesters yanked it from him. When he yanked it back, the men assaulted him, knocking him to the ground, he said.

The Lindenhurst, Ill., resident was treated by paramedics at the scene for a gash over his eye and dizziness, spending a few minutes inside an ambulance before returning to the protest.

“I wished he fell to the ground harder,” Findley said.

Ah yes, more kind words from tolerant “progressives”. Why is it that Marxists always seem to be behind these protests - no matter what the issue, and why do the Marxists always call the other side “racists”?

By PinestrawGuy

March 27, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

source

This was the opening post:

Quote: If the HR4437 passes, well the United States may be ready to go into the biggest economic disaster in recent history. The government already harvested enough enemies around the world: arabs, muslims and even Europe. Now they are begging to have the Latin American people as enemies too. Very well, but don’t be surprised to find some very vicious enemies there. Ultimately, they are already p** off since 1500.

Don’t be surprised if some people down there start to…

This is a blow from the right-wing not only against Latinos, but indirectly to every non-white race . They will keep attacking others. Please post more would-be scenarios here.

Sounds like the stirrings of violence from our ‘brown-skinned brothers’. Sounds like they want American citizens to ‘roll over’ for them and concede our very nation.

Sounds like HR4437 doesn’t go FAR ENOUGH!!!

By jimmyt

March 27, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

Mike, I dont understand this cartoon

By Scooter

March 27, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

I have a two hour lay over in Mexico City this Saturday and will be spending the remainder of the following week in a coastal city of Mexico. Sounds like it could be extra interesting. Perhaps I better tip very well for appeasement purposes. Ahhh, I’m a darn good tipper anyway.

It’s a shame I can’t take my SW atlanta defense team with me.

That little guy always comes in handy.

Perhaps the cartoon is to illustrate how you can have a pretty girl give you a “ride” if you have money and power?

By Boss Hawg

March 27, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

I love the latest embracement of the Latin immigrants. Republicans continue to instruct us about the culture of low expectations enslaving the lower classes of which the immigrants are a major part.

In the words of Donald Rumsfeld, this is “the modern day equivalent of” the Dixiecrats of the 50’s/60’s who told us that blacks weren’t really slaves in the old south. Instead, they were being helped up by their masters who wisely knew that they couldn’t care for themselves. Slavery was needful for their own good and the benevolent slave-holders weren’t expoiting them, they were lifting them from the shackles of their own “culture of low expectations”. You see, slavery was (and is) really for the benefit of the slaves, not the enrichment of their masters.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

To all you morbid little bastards that don’t like to hear the truth about Iraq, kiss my a-ss. I’m not making this up as I go. These are accounts from real people who are more involved in that country then a bunch of traitor pinko journalists doing in the United States from the lobby of their hotel. It is what the pinko liberal POS media does not tell you stupid clods who inhabit the land of duma-sses.

You are not going to do a disservice to our country and soldiers fighting for freedom without me calling you on it. Deal with it.

Amen.

By getalife

March 27, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

Scooter,

May I suggest Cabo Wabo?.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.soderna.com/wedding/honeymoon/ELPRESIDENTE.htm&h=480&w=640&sz=55&tbnid=0ILmch9UTtFkdM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=135&hl=en&start=9&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCabo%2BWabo%26svnum%3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN)

I have been there, I think. Maybe I ran into the trunk monkey and got my head bashed or was it the tequila?

By Scooter

March 27, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

Getalife, probably the tequila. I think I left a rare coin in your house. If you see it let me know.

By finch

March 27, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

Cabo Wabo. Where the elite meet..JPG)

Seriously, Cabo Wabo’s neat. And Cabo San Lucas is laid back and comfy, even if it gets pricier every year.

Everybody takes dollars, and almost everybody speaks English. What’s not to like?

By candide

March 27, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

Let’s worry about Donald Trump and forget our real problem, that our president is hell bent on disaster and no one seems to care.

Do you know why Catholic universities and colleges do so well in sports? Because sports emphasis keeps the mind away from real thought — such as, how crazy Christianity really is. If they had no sports the students might figure this out more quickly.

Our love affair with the Trumps and Brittanys and all the rest keep us from confronting the truth about what is going on.

By Midori

March 27, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

Looks like Helen really knew what she was talking about

By getalife

March 27, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

Scooter,

I found it and can’t wait to get back.

By kimberly

March 27, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this

Candide, speaking of the right-wing love affair with Britney, check this out. They’ve erected a statue to her virtuous motherliness! HAHAHA!

By RW-(the original)

March 27, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

Midori,

Your story actually contradicts Helen by two years, but I wouldn’t expect anything more factual from you. Good work once again.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

Dedication of the life-sized statue celebrates the recent birth of Spears’ baby boy, Sean, and applauds her decision of placing family before career. “A superstar at Britney’s young age having a child is rare in today’s celebrity culture. This dedication honors Britney for the rarity of her choice and bravery of her decision,” said gallery co-director, Lincoln Capla. The dedication includes materials provided by Manhattan Right To Life Committee.

The Cross in urine crowd has problems with Britney not killing her baby, real nice.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

So when are the bank robbers going to march?:

More than 500,000 people rallied in Los Angeles on Saturday, demanding that Congress abandon the House-passed measures that would make being an undocumented immigrant (that’s sissy speak for illegal alien) a felony and erect a 700-mile fence along the 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border Currently, being in the United States illegally is a civil violation. Similar but smaller protests were held in Dallas, Phoenix, Milwaukee and Columbus, Ohio, among other cities.

By @@

March 27, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

The mundane topic which Candide mentions was created by ml. So why are we getting the blame.

LTD and others demand that we comment on the cartoon.

By @@

March 25, 2006 07:12 AM | Link to this

Wouldn’t this cartoon make more sense if “What’s her name #?” was in the stroller with the baby and “The Donald” was pushing. If it has something to do with “The Apprentice” show, I stopped watching when “Troy” was booted.

Now exactly why should this topic be cartoon worthy? I’ve done my duty, I commented on the cartoon. Now can we proceed to more worthwhile topics?

Am I gonna get an award from Candide?

By getalife

March 27, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Since the third party in government is the lobbyists, I predict they will get amnesty for illegals so business owners can have their cheap labor.

We are not a nation of laws anymore because we do not enforce them for certain people like W and his buddies.

By Buy Danish

March 27, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

@@,

I’m puzzling over the connection that Candida is trying to make between Catholics excelling at team sports, “crazy Christians” and the Trumps.

It must be very important or he would not have brought it up as part of his neverending search for the truth.

By Midori

March 27, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

RW, Go suck a mango

That link contradicts NOTHING.

The slimeball was intent on invading. PERIOD.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

Midori: Mangos are better sliced.

You know the United States is practicing war games against North Korea this very minute. Does that mean we are intent on invading them?

By RW-(the original)

March 27, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this

Mango peddler,

That’s two stories you have linked purporting to show that Bush knew we were going to have to go to war in Iraq early in 2003.

Helen’s question:

My question is: Why did you really want to go to war? From the moment you stepped into the White House?

I’m sure President Bush stepped foot in the White House before he became President, but let’s give Helen the benefit of the doubt and make it January 20, 2001.

Your move dimwit.

By PinestrawGuy

March 27, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

getalife,

If the amnesty passes the Senate, the House will never let it out of conference, and nothing will get done. That won’t be a problem, though. Americans will simply demand that CURRENT law be enforced, and all those illegals will wind up outta here anyway!

I predict that by August the Minutemen will have 10,000 observers at the border, and I’ll be one of them.

By Midori

March 27, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

RW, the original Bush apologist/enabler/robot,

If you don’t like those links, here’s another

Facts are facts.

How can you type on your keyboard? Aren’t you dizzy as a top from spinning so much? And your spin even makes no sense. Not to us in the fact-based world.

Maybe you should do another poll for your friends in Bizarro World to participate in.

By RW-(the original)

March 27, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

Midori,

/sarc on/ Wow you gain credibility with every link. /sarc off/

I bet if you look hard enough you can put W on the grassy knoll.

By Bushwacker

March 27, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

RW- If you read the stories you will find that Bush was talking to Blair about his motivations prior to going to war. It isn’t a great leap to think that this was on his mind from the moment he took office in order to gain the public support that he lacked in his hotly disputed election win.

The British memos show that he LIED to the American public with his claims of WMDs as motivation for invasion. The releases clearly show that he was going to invade irregardless of rather WMDs were found or not.

Bush is a LIAR. We had impeachment hearings for Clinton when he LIED. Where is the Republican outcry now when it is a Republican president who is the LIAR. To Republicans, morals are something that only Democrats should be held accountable for. What a surprise. Your move, Republican ‘spin-wit’

By getalife

March 27, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

PinestrawGuy,

I just got a call from a relative in Dallas and they are walking out of schools to protest.

You are probably correct with govt. doing nothing as usual. At least the Minutemen are doing something for security of this country.

By RW-(the original)

March 27, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this

Bushwacker,

If you search the archives you will find that I am all for the Democrats filing articles of impeachment and attempting to prove your case. It would be nice to see you try to prove your bulls-hit once in awhile.

Not that you care, but we didn’t just have impeachment hearings for Clinton he was impeached.

By Buy Danish

March 27, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

RW,

I get 2 “main ideas” from the “common wet dreams” link.

Funny how hearsay is a fact if it is against Bush, but General Sada’s eyewitness account, or evidence provided by Stephen Hayes, is dismissed out of hand.

By Bushwacker

March 27, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

RW- Boy what a rewrite of history. Impeachment was actually voted down, there was only a hearing and vote on impeachment. It was Clinton who turned the office over to Bush. If Clinton were impeached he would not have been in office. I’m quite sure Bush could never be held accountable by his majority congressional buddies. If Republicans were TRUELY interested in MORALS they would hold Bush to the same standard as they did Clinton and hold impeachment hearings. You guys show your disrespect for honesty, morals, and fair play with your every utterance. Back to you, spin-wit.

By RW-(the original)

March 27, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I guess I wouldn’t know, as you can tell from “bushwanker’s” lovely comment I don’t read these things and who am I to argue with someone that can turn this lovely phrase:

irregardless of rather

By Bushwacker

March 27, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

RW- Boy what a rewrite of history. Impeachment was actually voted down, there was only a hearing and vote on impeachment. It was Clinton who turned the office over to Bush. If Clinton were impeached he would not have been in office. I’m quite sure Bush could never be held accountable by his majority congressional buddies. If Republicans were TRUELY interested in MORALS they would hold Bush to the same standard as they did Clinton and hold impeachment hearings. You guys show your disrespect for honesty, morals, and fair play with your every utterance. Back to you, spin-wit.

By candide

March 27, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this

Danish: my point is that the establishment, whether the Catholic Church or the GOP, invents ways of keeping the stupid masses ignorant and focused on trivia rather than on real issues.

By Buy Danish

March 27, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I don’t care if there are 12 million people protesting with Mexican flags. If they aren’t here legally and can’t vote, or if they are still in high school and too young to vote, then they can march all they want.

By RW-(the original)

March 27, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this

Bushwacker,

Your ignorance is showing, do you know anything about the Constitutional process of impeachment?

By RW-(the original)

March 27, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

Bushwanker,

Should I repeat my answer or will you just read it twice?

By Buy Danish

March 27, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

RW,

Nails on the chalkboard! Anyways the poor grammarian doesn’t know the definition of impeach, but we are to believe that his “IF-y” facts are impeachable.

By getalife

March 27, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Do you agree with this wingnut?

By finch

March 27, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

Midori,

The NYTimes report provides the latest evidence that the Bush administration is blowing smoke when it insists the Iraq invasion was a last resort and an unavoidable choice.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was calling for an invasion hours after 9/11.

And Helen’s notorious “since you stepped in the White House” question was no throwaway. Not at all.

…vice-president Dick Cheney; defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld; Paul Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld’s deputy; Bush’s younger brother Jeb, the governor of Florida; and Lewis Libby, Cheney’s deputy – wrote a blueprint for (Iraqi) regime change as early as September 2000.

The Bush Blair meeting was just another part of the Bush administration’s drive from day one to justify invading Iraq by taking selective data and pure speculation and making sure they were “being fixed around the policy”.

But you knew that!

By Bushwacker

March 27, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

RW- Double post the problem with server, of course. Now your playing the semantic game and redefining impeached as the same thing as impeachment. In common usage ‘impeachment’ is the process, and ‘impeached’ is the guilty culmination of that process. This is all a matter of semantic interpretation but if it would make you feel better then, If Republicans were TRUELY interested in MORALS they would hold Bush to the same standard as they did Clinton and IMPEACH him.

By test

March 27, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

test

By RW-(the original)

March 27, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

Bushwacker,

Just because you want to change the definition of “impeached” doesn’t mean you get to.

Learning is fundamental my friend, try it sometime.

By RW-(the original)

March 27, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

finch,

Look who else had plans, maybe we should impeach him again!

By PinestrawGuy

March 27, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

What in God’s name do you mean they CAN’T vote? They haven’t had ANY problem breaking any OTHER laws, what makes you think they won’t break voter registration laws? Hell, in Georgia all you need to vote illegally is a utility bill and a little gumption.

Get real.

By Bushwacker

March 27, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

RW- I kindly accepted your own definition of impeached though I feel that the word has acquire a different common usage. This happens quite often in the ever evolving English language. “Cool” means something other than absence of heat to many, and to some “bomb” means a good looking “shelia”. Again you are fixated on semantics I suspect because you don’t like the flow of the logic and would like to mis-direct. By YOUR definition, If Republicans were TRUELY interested in MORALS they would hold Bush to the same standard as they did Clinton and IMPEACH him.

By Buy Danish

March 27, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

Candidas,

The Jesuits invented higher education, and Georgetown University, where Clinton attended is a Jesuit University, and these schools do not “focus on trivia”. Look at all the Democrat Congressmen who attended Jesuit schools

You may continue on with your “Christians are ignorant lunatics” scenario, along with your dismissal of the concept of mens sana in corpore sano, at the risk of appearing, well, ignorant

By Buy Danish

March 27, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

getalife,

No, I don’t agree. We need to put the brakes on immediately, and then figure out how to work out the details with those who are already here illegally, but mass-deportation is impractical from all sides.

This immigration “problem” should never have gotten to this point. The laissez-faire attitude that both sides have employed to try to win constituents is politicking at its worst, and any politician who pays more heed to people who cannot vote for them than they do to their own legally voting constituents should be, uh, censured.

BTW, the fact that someone “is paying taxes” means diddly squat to me. So do a lot of not-yet-convicted felons, but that does not give them a get out of jail free card.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 27, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

I sense a challenge:

Military force can’t destroy our atomic program: Iran

Gardiner said a U.S. operation aimed at destroying Iran’s nuclear facilities would take less than a week and would not use any of the forces currently stationed in Iraq.

“This is an operation that would not take more than five evenings to do,” he said, adding that it would probably use Stealth bombers to bomb the facilities.

By test

March 27, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

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March 27, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

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By Non Biased News

March 27, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

We are reporting that in fact there was plenty of sunlight and air in Iraq today.

By test, test, test

March 27, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

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By Midori

March 27, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this

yes, Finch.

I knew that.

You knew that.

Bush knew that.

Blair knew that.

Helen knew that.

The only one hauling a* from reality and the facts is RW- the original Bushbot.

BTW, Finch — I have it on good authority that Helen is due to receive a thank you gift in the form of 120 dozen roses for a job well done!!

By Bill

March 27, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

SUCK: What a pitiful little lifeform you are. How would anyone know how to “kiss(your)a—”? You are ALL a—!

By Bill

March 27, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

Oh Gawd. Scooter, our friendly sled, has a “lay over” in Mexico City. Scooter doesn’t have the price of a ticket to…Jellico! Bend over again, Scooter.

By test

March 27, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

test

By @@

March 27, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this

Darn, I rushed home…no award.

By N-GA

March 27, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

The fact that the GWB administration wanted to go to war with Iraq was documented long before the NY Times article. Former Secretary of the Treasury Paul O’Neill has been quoted many times that invading Iraq was discussed routinely in Cabinet-level meetings prior to 9/11.

“From the very beginning, there was a conviction that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go,” O’Neill told CBS… “For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is a really huge leap.”

O’Neill, who served nearly two years in Bush’s Cabinet, was asked to resign by the White House in December 2002 over differences he had with the president’s tax cuts. O’Neill was the main source for “The Price of Loyalty: George W. Bush, the White House, and the Education of Paul O’Neill,” by former Wall Street Journal reporter Ron Suskind.

Suskind said O’Neill and other White House insiders gave him documents showing that in early 2001 the administration was already considering the use of force to oust Saddam, as well as planning for the aftermath.

“There are memos,” Suskind told the network. “One of them marked ‘secret’ says ‘Plan for Post-Saddam Iraq.’”

Suskind cited a Pentagon document titled “It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this,’” O’Neill said.

All the memos and other documents from Tony Blair’s administration simply reinforce the fact that GWB went to war and justified it by lying to the American people.

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!! IMPEACH BUSH!!!!

By test

March 27, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this

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March 27, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

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By rushncap

March 27, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

For once RW is correct. Clinton was impeached. He was never convicted. Gotta love our Puritan society. On a related note, any patriot willing to take one for the team and blow Shrubby so we can impeach him as well? You would be the country’s greatest patriot since Patrick Henry.

By candide

March 27, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this

Sonny will sign the bible studies bill and a generation of Georgia students will be subject to redneck Christianity against their will. What a dumb thing to do.

By Joe Roman

March 27, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

American history offers no comparison to what is happening now. Never before has rigid ideology so throughly trumped reality. Most everyone bought into some form of anti-communism. There was good reason to be wary of Soviet-style imperialism. Sadly, Vietnam was the right string and the wrong yo-yo. This mess in Iraq is solely the product of pie-in-the-sky neocon ideology progagated by people with no real world experience. A considerable talent for propaganda allowed them to sucker many who subscribed to a form of rugged individual patriotism and war veterans vulnurable to any group that patronizes them and kisses their hind quarters. To say nothing of men eager to demonstrate their “manhood” without actually doing anything. All were easily rallied to the cause. The trouble was, once the forces were arrayed to push the neocon agenda through the process, the agenda turned out to be stupid and completely unrealistic. Bush’s cute little doctrine of “pre-emptive war” is rapidly being embraced by other countries lest they be America’s next victim. Iran will boot up for nuclear war. You can take it to the bank. You can also bank on us being unable to do anyhing about it. Why? Our troops are bogged down in Iraq! North Korea already has its finger on the trigger. Extremists in Pakistan haven’t gained control of nukes just because they haven’t chosen to do so. America got to be America through ruthless, informed pragmatism-doing what would work best given the circumstances. Now, our country is being controlled by rigid ideologues. When ideology trumps reality, disaster follows. Want an example in history? How about Stalin’s forced collectivization of Soviet agriculture? Millions starved to death. What ultimately awaits us?

By WashingtonState

March 27, 2006 09:44 PM | Link to this

Finch,

That reference to the Project for the New American Century always cracks me up. I mean, all the heroes of the Right got together and wrote a paper detailing how they wanted to run the world. In their own words, Hussein was a pretext for invading Iran and setting up a permanent military presence in the Persian Gulf. It boggles the mind that the Right now denies what the PNAC says. Our of their own mouths, they said it before Bush was even elected. It is on the internet still for anyone to read on a Right wing think tank site.

By RLW

March 28, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

Can someone explain this to me?