Mike Luckovich

By getalife

March 21, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this

Big eared Jenna, not another Bush please.

By George

March 21, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this

I agree, PLEASE not another Bush.

By RW-(the original)

March 21, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this

getalife,

That comment doesn’t sound like something you would say.

I bet when President Jenna turns to the next page she will be saying, “This time we really have to make the Katrina evacuees start fending for themselves.”

By DavidU

March 21, 2006 07:18 PM | Link to this

Not so long ago, in a country that now seems far, far away, Ronald Reagan told the nation: “we don’t have deficits because people are taxed too little. We have deficits because big government spends too much.” …….Last week, a Republican Senate voted to raise the debt ceiling to nearly $9 trillion. Senators quickly passed a record $2.8 trillion budget. What would Reagan say now? He said then, “.the federal deficit is outrageous. For years I’ve asked that we stop pushing onto our children the excesses of our government.” He called for a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution and labeled the budget process a “sorry spectacle.” That Republicans are outspending the most reckless 1980s Democrat (and 1960s Great Society Democrats and 1940s FDR Democrats) is the sorriest spectacle of all. The Senate vote increased the debt ceiling for the fourth time in five years. The statutory debt limit has now risen by more than $3 trillion since President Bush took office. That any Republican majority could preside over such fiscally irresponsible spending ought to be grounds for revoking their party membership

By George

March 21, 2006 07:19 PM | Link to this

I guess ML is thinking that the Iraq War will go on till 2026. That is probably a good guess since GWB just doesn’t want to end it. He is apparently drunk on power and won’t give it up till he leaves office.

By DavidU

March 21, 2006 07:19 PM | Link to this

Nice one ML…the ever changing timeline for Iraq.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 21, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this

At least cartoon boy’s knows enough not to draw Chelsea up there.

By buff

March 21, 2006 07:28 PM | Link to this

Hey, get

How are things going, you feelin’ OK, and where are you now?

By DavidU

March 21, 2006 07:35 PM | Link to this

Had anyone else heard about this “it wasn’t me it was Powell who Leaked the information, if there even was a leak” angle?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 21, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

GALLUP POLLING DROPS CNN AFTER ‘LOW RATINGS’; FULL MEMO REVEALED Tue Mar 21 2006 19:01:37 ET

The GALLUP polling company has dropped CNN as its outlet for electronic distribution.

“CNN has far fewer viewers than it did in the past, and we feel that our brand was getting lost and diluted,” GALLUP claimed in an internal memo, obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT.

BWAAAHAHAHAHA, poll that, lib.

By @@

March 21, 2006 07:42 PM | Link to this

In response to ml’s cartoon “End of the Tunnel”. Why has mike used less shadowing and more light in the background? Is he seeing the light?

By @@

March 21, 2006 07:43 PM | Link to this

In response to ml’s cartoon “End of the Tunnel”. Why has mike used less shadowing and more light in the background? Is he seeing the light?

By finch

March 21, 2006 07:49 PM | Link to this

RW,

Has Luckovich been reading our posts?

Weren’t we discussing a Bush and/or Clinton political dynasty mere weeks ago?

By Proud to be Dubya

March 21, 2006 07:49 PM | Link to this

“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” —Jenna Bush, March 24, 2026

By getalife

March 21, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this

Hey buff,

Long time no blog. Rehab is over, I am alive and kicking.

How are you?

By RW-(the original)

March 21, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this

finch,

That’s two in a row now, which means I am forced to do this.

ml, This page locking out thing is more aggravating than the delay.

By Semper FI

March 21, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this

Maybe even ML is finally coming to terms with the fact there will be a Republican Prez in the year 2026, and each year in between.

By getalife

March 21, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this

Hey buff,

Long time no blog. Rehab is over, I am alive and kicking.

How are you?

By Semper FI

March 21, 2006 08:03 PM | Link to this

Maybe even ML is finally coming to terms with the fact there will be a Republican Prez in the year 2026, and each year in between.

By Semper FI

March 21, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

Maybe even ML is finally coming to terms with the fact there will be a Republican Prez in the year 2026, and each year in between.

By Semper FI

March 21, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this

Sorry about the triple post. I only hit POST once but then got hung up in a solid white screen with www.coxnews… in the address. I hit REFRESH twice before hitting BACK. Apparently REFRESH on a solid white screen will repost each time. Who knew???

By rushncap

March 21, 2006 08:20 PM | Link to this

Semper Fi, keep dreaming. It’ll be easier on you that way.

By finch

March 21, 2006 08:25 PM | Link to this

RW, Semper…

The white screen is annoying. I just back, fill, and cross my fingers.

ml, get a new webmaster.

By RW-(the original)

March 21, 2006 08:26 PM | Link to this

Semper Fi,

The comments are doing that. When it goes to the white screen you can just open a new window and close the old one and then wait for the huge delay.

Wasn’t it nice when you just typed your comment and it was there?

By Semper FI

March 21, 2006 08:31 PM | Link to this

Good, I like easy. Liberals help, everytime they speak. Hopefully, by 2026, Democrat will only be found in the history books.

By D.R. Sharpe

March 21, 2006 08:32 PM | Link to this

Mr.mike luckyvich, In reference to the pick on the week garbage cartoon: You have no ethical reason to draw such crap about President George W. Bush’s administration. Do you realize you aiding and abetting the Insurgent coward, enemy Dogs that attacked this country? Why don’t you move out of Atlanta Georgia and move to France… Please! get out the beautifil southern city who the drunkard General Sherman burned & pillaged, you are a disgrace to your city & country..DRSharpe

By Midori

March 21, 2006 08:42 PM | Link to this

well, he did say today that Iraq’s finality will be up to future presidents.

I don’t want to see any more Bushes or Clintons in the White House, by the way.

By Midori

March 21, 2006 08:57 PM | Link to this

Good, I like easy. Liberals help, everytime they speak. Hopefully, by 2026, Democrat will only be found in the history books.

yes, because we will write them.

at the rate that your’e going (backwards), you will be back in loin cloths and hunting and gathering using a club.

By getalife

March 21, 2006 09:00 PM | Link to this

Today’s headline in the local paper here in south Louisiana is about an industrial park to convert sugar cane to ethanol. The wave of the future.

Brazil is already doing it and think we should be aggresively weaning our addiction.

By MikeIsABigot

March 21, 2006 09:06 PM | Link to this

Thank god that we didn’t have a bunch of defeatist fools like Luckovich around in WW2.

Mikey would have been calling for us to quit in 1944. Come to think of it, he wouldn’t have. There was a Democrat in office then and Mike only criticize Republicans.

By Souldrift

March 21, 2006 09:10 PM | Link to this

Great toon - if another Bush is elected I’m moving to Vermont to join the movement to secede!

Getalife, sounds promising!

Blog and Tan

By Semper FI

March 21, 2006 09:13 PM | Link to this

Thanks, RW/finch. It’s sort of funny the AJC rag would have you believe they know best how to manage the country, economy, war, etc, but they can’t manage their won webserver.

By Dusty

March 21, 2006 09:34 PM | Link to this

Well, I see Luckovich has sunk so low that he is now after the women and children, in particular, the president’s daughter.

I’ve heard of bad manners, bad “taste”, no class, and dim-witted. But it all boils down to a sorry lack of character. This lack of character is beginning to seem endemic to liberals.

By finch

March 21, 2006 09:35 PM | Link to this

getalife,

When I first thought about ethanol, I thought “too expensive”.

But the way crude’s going up, that won’t last.

Why not? You can ferment and distill almost anything organic.

By WashingtonState

March 21, 2006 09:39 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I think you may have missed the point of the cartoon.

By rushncap

March 21, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

Dusty, if you’re under some misguided impression that any of us have something to learn about character from the likes of you, I’m very much not sorry to disappoint.

And Semper, if you cannot figure out how to work a web server, what the hell makes you think you’re competent to pass judgement on war and peace? If all the Republicans were as computer-savvy as you are, your party would be extinct by the time midterm elections roll around. Sadly, that will probably not happen.

By RW-(the original)

March 21, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

finch/getalife,

Are you guys talking about fuel or moonshine?

By finch

March 21, 2006 09:45 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Give me a break. Jenna is 24 years old. Were you this upset when Rush suggested 12 year old Chelsea Clinton looked like a dog?

Midori,

If word gets around that some of us “libruls” don’t necessarily want to see another Clinton in the White House, our reputations will be ruined!

By Dusty

March 21, 2006 10:08 PM | Link to this

Washington State,

I didn’t miss the point of this cartoon. And I also didn’t miss the lack of character shown by Luckovich. But you like that, don’t you?

Rushncap,

You don’t have to worry about character because you don’t have any.

finch,

Do you have a daughter? Jenna is the daughter of Pres. Bush. She is not in politics. I never listen to Rush unless he plays a trumpet on the jazz station. If he is calling someone’s daughter a “dog”, then I hope I never hear him. Sorry stuff.

By rushncap

March 21, 2006 10:16 PM | Link to this

Good one, Dusty!! Wow! Eeeeyouch. I’m impressed it only took you 20 min. to come up with “you don’t have any [character]”. Daymn, boy, you got the editorial staff of townhall.com cranking these out for you?

Oh, and yes, you DID miss the point of the cartoon. Sorry to break it to ya. Mike is not making fun of Jenna, he is making fun of her daddy and the Republicans, as well as taking a swipe at the developing Bush dynasty. Lighten up. And, besides, she is in politics, or did you miss her stumping for daddy in 2004?

By rushncap

March 21, 2006 10:18 PM | Link to this

Good one, Dusty!! Wow! Eeeeyouch. I’m impressed it only took you 20 min. to come up with “you don’t have any [character]”. Daymn, boy, you got the editorial staff of townhall.com cranking these out for you?

Oh, and yes, you DID miss the point of the cartoon. Sorry to break it to ya. Mike is not making fun of Jenna, he is making fun of her daddy and the Republicans, as well as taking a swipe at the developing Bush dynasty. Lighten up. And, besides, she is in politics, or did you miss her stumping for daddy in 2004?

By @@

March 21, 2006 10:34 PM | Link to this

Did rushncap just have difficulty operating the web server (double-post). Oh well…… not worth commenting on. Oops! I just did!!!

By finch

March 21, 2006 10:42 PM | Link to this

My Eyes Glaze Over.

Must be the double posts. Must be the double posts.

Must be the moonshine. I mean ethanol.

By Bill

March 21, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this

The chickenhawks are active tonight. I see SEMPER FLUNK - the Fake Marine, is busy too. Folks, here’s a guy who was offered a $1000 GIFT from a gentleman several weeks ago. All this phoney GI had to do was prove he spent a single day somewhere - anywhere - in the military. The fake didn’t do it because he COULDN’T do it. With a little effort I had no trouble contacting the gentleman who made the offer. He made it quite easy to do so. Fascinating. I would not have kept the offer on the table as long as he has. And so we see that Semper Joke is typical of the low life wingnuts who inhabit this blog. Liars, liars, liars, and cowards to boot. Pathetic people. But that’s nothing new, just a reminder. The little hate-hurlers. One day Semper Flunk will run into a REAL ex-GI, mouth off, and get his punk face broken.

By Dusty

March 21, 2006 10:45 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

Let us see now.

You know how to post duplicates.

Your math is wrong. Eight from sixteen is eight.

I am not a boy.

Luckovich USED Jenna to try and dishonor her father, an obvious and pointless jab.

You must be in politics because you are posting on a political blog. Maybe I am also in politics but nobody tells me what to write. Frankly, you could use some help.

By Jay not jay

March 21, 2006 10:49 PM | Link to this

Great ‘toon ml, just another example of the left’s never-ending pessimism in what we can and will accomplish.

By WashingtonState

March 21, 2006 10:49 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

You need a good old fashioned head soaking. ML is not saying anything bad about Jenna. Or maybe it’s just that you think there is something Bush is hiding about his daughter. Sorry to disappoint, but you are barking up the wrong tree.

By finch

March 21, 2006 10:55 PM | Link to this

Washington State,

If I were Jenna, I’d have this cartoon framed. Among other things, it visualizes her as President in 20 years. It’s not an insult to her.

OK, so maybe the ears are a little much…

By @@

March 21, 2006 10:56 PM | Link to this

I’m not sure whether I’m happy or sad. Looks like I won’t have to listen to those two marbles rolling around in his (Gore’s) head for awhile.

Plunk…plunk…plunk!!!

By Semper FI

March 21, 2006 11:00 PM | Link to this

Bill, just tell me how to handle the proof you require to make the 1000 dollar donation to my charity. Or tell me how to contact the Scott person that make the wager first. I am more than game. Whatever it takes to shake you off my leg.

By Dusty

March 21, 2006 11:03 PM | Link to this

Washington State,

Do you know what the word USED means? Obviously not. Nor do you have respect for someone’s family.

Luckovich USED Bush’s daughter Jenna to try and make a derogatory cartoon about her father.

Do you want your daughter to be USED to write insulting remarks about you? Why not? Clean up your own head.

By Jay not jay

March 21, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

@@, Maybe Gore will try to run yet another time in ‘22 with Jenna as his V.P. Thus lifting her to the Presidency in ‘26.

By rushncap

March 21, 2006 11:16 PM | Link to this

Actually, Dusty, my browser hung up, so I was not sure if my comment posted, and since I was driving back to work, I did not feel like hanging around to find out if it posted. Second of all, I have no idea what you’re talking about with your “eight from sixteen” business, so I’ll just assume you’re in your own little world and leave you to it. Third, yes, Mike was trying to dishonor her father, a Herculean (if not Sysiphian) task considering how tremendously difficult it is to dishonor someone who has no honor to begin with (can you say Texas Air National Guard?). However, he was not insulting Jenna. And, no, I’m not in politics, but thanks for demonstrating what you consider “logic”, apparently. I post on this blog every blue moon because I consider politics interesting and relevant, but frankly I do not have the shmoozing skills nor the lack of integrity required to be a politician. I’m unfortunately far too honest. And if you think I could “use some help” I’m very mildly curious as to what you think I need help in.

By @@

March 21, 2006 11:16 PM | Link to this

JayNot:

I just can’t see that possibility. I can, however see Gore leaning over to listen to the earth’s pulse and losing his last two marbles in the effort.

By RW-(the original)

March 21, 2006 11:19 PM | Link to this

@@,

All hope isn’t lost. Maybe we could write to him and give him a push.

By WashingtonState

March 21, 2006 11:25 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I see your problem. I don’t think the cartoon is insulting to Bush. Just a touch of hyperbole. Otherwise, it is right on target. There was a cartoon awhile back that I thought crossed the line. It depicted the twins as party animals imbibing to excess. That one I would agree with you on.

By @@

March 21, 2006 11:34 PM | Link to this

Gee R.W., I just don’t think I could enjoy that game.

By Jay not jay

March 21, 2006 11:34 PM | Link to this

RW,

Gore is busy song writing. Here is a compilation of Gore’s greatest hits:

The #1’s rock!

By rushncap

March 21, 2006 11:41 PM | Link to this

Well, Jay, unlike John Ashcroft’s singing, which makes William Hung sound like Caruso, Gore’s on that site is not real.

By RW-(the original)

March 21, 2006 11:42 PM | Link to this

@@,

Those weren’t Gore’s marbles were they?

Jay not jay,

My computer isn’t letting me play them for some reason. This isn’t one of those endless loop blond jokes is it?

By Jay not jay

March 21, 2006 11:48 PM | Link to this

RW,

Sorry, you have to contribute to the DNC to hear them.

By Dusty

March 21, 2006 11:48 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

You’ve got more hung up than your browser.

You’re still hung up on the President’s Air National Guard service. The President served honorably amd nobody has disproved that. Ask Dan Rather.

The eight minutes was in reference to the incorrect time you said was between posts.

Jenna attended the National Convention like all the politicians’ children. You seem to think that made her political and therefore open to political buffoonery such as Luckovich’s. I disagree.

You need help with your accuracy. You are honest but report a terrible twisting of facts which reflects on your veracity.

By @@

March 21, 2006 11:52 PM | Link to this

R.W.:

There were three marbles if you noticed. That would make one too many.

rushncap:

We all knew those songs weren’t really Gore’s. I’m surprised you thought we did.

I’m out for the night!

By rushncap

March 21, 2006 11:58 PM | Link to this

Dusty, you are right about the post times. I looked at your previous post which is why I got the time wrong.

No, Bush did not “serve honorably”, but I don’t really care. He ditched Vietnam, everyone was doing what they could to skip it, I have no beef with people over that. It was a wrong war, and no one wanted to die for a mistake. But he could have at least showed up to his post once in a while.

Jenna did more than attend the convention, she actually went around stumping for him. Get your facts straight. It’s easy, that’s why god invented Google. For instance you can go here to see it. Or here where she is “campaigning with [her] father”. I could go on. Should I?

As for my accuracy, yes, I admit that the post times were wrong. I apologize. Anything else, Dusty?

By RW-(the original)

March 22, 2006 12:11 AM | Link to this

@@,

I thought you meant the two in his head when you talked of what you wanted to hear rattling around. So what were you talking about?

By Dusty

March 22, 2006 12:13 AM | Link to this

Yes, Rushncap, there is more.

You are perpetuating a lie about Pres. Bush’s military service. Why don’t you check Google about that.

God didn’t invent Google. He didn’t invent lies either. Why don’t you check on both.

You don’t need to apologize. You’re still not accurate. Good night.

By rushncap

March 22, 2006 12:24 AM | Link to this

No, Dusty, these are not lies. He got onto a National Guard gravy train, and he barely bothered to show up. This is what the evidence indicates most likely happened. Will this hold up in trial? Doubtful. But both you and I know that this is the most plausible scenario.

Yes, Dusty, I know god did not invent Google. Boy, aren’t you a sharp one. Apparenly that same god did not bother to grant you a sense of humor. Oh well, maybe you have good hair instead. And yes, if god, in the Biblical sense, exists he did invent lies. He created all of this universe, and lies are a part of it.

I apologize when I mess up. You should look into that. But that would require you to be honest and honorable, something you obviously are not. Otherwise, for instance, you would acknowledge the fact that Jenna did more than show up at a convention, and that you were wrong. But that is not in your nature, is it? You’re wrong, everyone knows you’re wrong, but bringing youself to actually say that….. ooof, that’s a hard one, huh? No wonder you like Shrubby.

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 12:59 AM | Link to this

Actually the bible says Satan is a liar and the father of lies. Of course, he has help from all mankind, and I do mean all.

By Eric

March 22, 2006 02:11 AM | Link to this

B - thanks for the update on this clown Semper Fi. What a great way to expose frauds like him. He’s been caught like a rat in a trap. Tho I have more respect for the common rat than I do for j******* like him.

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 02:18 AM | Link to this

Eric, you forgot to say I was a fraud marine. Where’s the trap??

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 02:35 AM | Link to this

Lyrics to the march were written by Charles Burr and go as follows:

“Semper fidelis” is a fabulous Latin motto meaning that in centuries of Roman might the soldier swore that he would fight For Caesar, never questioning if he might return or if the enemy when they attack could be driven aback — and that’s what it means. “We’re ever faithful” is the general gist in countries that are Christian Though it means almost the same we pledge no longer to the name Of Caesar, but to principles of the land we know and love, Bestowing the motto in war of our readiest corps — the mighty Marines. Men are dutiful to things contradictory — loving all that is beautiful — knowing battle and victory. They expect our expressions benedictory, and they find it perplexing and vexing and odd when we are shocked. They’ve forgotten the old established verities, seeking only for fame and gold, seeing only disparities. Those who worship the one true God are rarities who remember the Biblical saying that God will not be mocked! When the call to the true believer comes from the Church of God Will they all in their heart receive Him go where He bids them trod? Will the men who appear deserving, who to their faith are true, answer when they are called to serving, do what she bids them do? For many men profess their loyalty to true democracy yet bow to mockery and bend the knee to aristocracy, for to live their creed their need is small. And may men proclaim their worthiness, display their lowliness, disclaim their earthiness. Oh give us strength to seek true holiness, and in word and deed to heed the call!

By RE

March 22, 2006 03:42 AM | Link to this

“For many men profess their loyalty to true democracy yet bow to mockery and bend the knee to aristocracy, for to live their creed their need is small.”

Semper Fi, this is by far the best statement you have put down on this blog for as long as I have been reading it. This is the most eloquant summation of the attitude I see being espoused by TV pundits and arm chair generals in print, radio and TV. It is a little long for a bumper sticker, but I hope that phrase is passed along to as many people as possible.

I am not a liberal, or a democrat, or of any party affilition. I am just sick of seeing incompatent, corrupted, bought off scumbags be elected to represent us. You may think Bush is the pinnacle of morality, and you may think war is the only answer to allay your fears, but there just has to be better men, leaders, out there for this country. Is there anyone out there sick of making the choice every four years of picking between two people who you have little confidence in, or maybe throwing your vote away on a third party idealist with no shot at winning. I watched McCain get destroyed back in 2000, and I am sure he and Gulianni will be destroyed again before the nominations. Instead some insider hack will get that nod who will continue on the same path of corruption and cronyism we have today. Democrats are no better, at least Dean believed in what he said, instead we had Kerry, toned down, bought off, a caricture of a politician, crafted to not be too offensive, spitting out tired platitudes to the masses.

Look at our country now, half the population cannot agree with the other half on basics such as what happened in the last 5 years. It has become divided to the point where you cannot have a civil disagreement on the merits of policy without it becoming a shouting match. Can anyone remember the last time a president gave a direct answer to a question, it has not been in my memory. Every answer is a crafted and massaged talking point to be hit upon over and over.

Anyone else out there hoping for a little leadership from our leaders, I sure hope they get a chance to read Semper Fi’s excerpt here and take it to heart

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 04:44 AM | Link to this

Republicans slam Democrat plan to hit Bush from bases By Charles Hurt THE WASHINGTON TIMES March 22, 2006

Republicans accused Capitol Hill Democrats yesterday of plotting to use military bases as props for political press events to criticize President Bush for his handling of the war in Iraq.

“I think that is deplorable,” Sen. George Allen, Virginia Republican, said yesterday on Fox News. “It is pitiful. We are at war. This country needs to be unified and realize who the enemy is — it’s not fellow Americans.”

Mr. Allen and others cited a memo distributed last week by the office of Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid that recommended Senate Democrats hold press events at, among other places, military bases.

I hope they do it.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 05:15 AM | Link to this

Oh look, the libs have “found” patriotism.:

Ensure that you have the proper U.S. and state flags at the event, and consider finding someone to sing the national anthem and lead the group in the Pledge of Allegiance at the start of the event.

It is unclear as to whether the “under God” clause of the Pledge should be included; perhaps Mr. Reid should have provided the entire text for those who might be a bit out of practice in its recital. As for the “proper” flags, he might want to dial up a few of his friends on the far left wing of his party who have no trouble locating them in a flash.

Welcome aboard, pinko. You going to keep the jingoism after the elections pass?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 06:25 AM | Link to this

Needy seniors to get $150 off April gas bills Margaret Newkirk - Staff Wednesday, March 22, 2006

Tens of thousands of low-income elderly customers of Atlanta Gas Light will see a $150 credit on their April home heating bills courtesy of the Georgia Public Service Commission. On Tuesday, the commission allocated $5.1 million to those credits. The commission also put an additional $3 million into assistance for low-income people under 65 who were also hard hit by the season’s brutally high natural gas costs. The combined $8.1 million, approved unanimously, will be dispersed from a PSC fund supported by assessments on AGL’s largest industrial customers and an AGL Resources wholesale gas subsidiary. The idea for the credit for the elderly came from Commissioner David Burgess.

Gosh, a whole $150, little fairies sprinkling pinko goodwill picked from the money trees! Who needs to teach people how to fish when you have so much of everybody else’s cash?

Hey at least the caribou don’t have humming from any oil wells disturbing their slumber. I’m sure they appreciate it to, with you and I paying out a fortune to the Islamic fundamentalists that are trying to kill us. What’s 3000 innocent women and children compared to the pristine beauty of the artic tundra? It’s a small sacrifice to make for a place that maybe 3 people have ever visited.

Elect more pinkos!

By @@

March 22, 2006 06:58 AM | Link to this

R.W.:

By RW-(the original)

March 22, 2006 12:11 AM @@,

I thought you meant the two in his head when you talked of what you wanted to hear rattling around. So what were you talking about?

If you’re asking me for directions, you can’t get there from here. Detours, dont’cha know.

I wasn’t “talking”. I was “typing”.

By Morgan

March 22, 2006 07:06 AM | Link to this

The ‘toon clearly says “QUAGMIRE” (oh, and an electorate unable to see it). We needs to spend more money on edjakation.

By DavidU

March 22, 2006 07:12 AM | Link to this

Helen {Thomas} does not say these White House reporters are Bush voters or conservatives, just that they’re “gullible.” She’s urging liberal journalists to get less “naive” and more hostile to Bush than they already are now. Helen longs for the good old days of Watergate and Nixon impeachment talk, when the briefing room was a “lion’s den.” She writes that the “old pros” like Sam Donaldson used to back her up, but the young whippersnappers dominating the briefing room today (probably defined as reporters under 60) lack “historical perspective on government deception and folly.” In short, Helen Thomas wants working reporters to behave exactly like her. God help us if journalists follow that advice.

This was written on March 14th; with starting line: Will former White House reporter Helen Thomas ever go away? Then yesterday Helen “Kamikaze” Thomas showed how the “old pros” do it. I guess she answered his question! :)

By Charles

March 22, 2006 07:21 AM | Link to this

If ML had it his way, Hitlery would be President in 2008. If that were so, we’d be alot like France by 2012. That would have put us on target to be taken over by the radical Muslims by 2020. So, the leader of what used to be the United States wouldn’t have big ears - He would be wearing a towel (and all women would be wearing burkas .

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 07:30 AM | Link to this

DavidU: I can’t tell if you are for or against Helen Thomas but I have to ask this question either way- Who elected her to decide what the policies of the United States Government should be?

The Pinko Media is a business in search of ratings that uses sex and moral corruption, among other things, to sell it’s product. By all means, they should question our elected officials.

By Edd Williams

March 22, 2006 07:32 AM | Link to this

To DavidU - What time line? The President has never argued for one. And when we have given time lines they have always resulted in military and political disaster for this country, or are you too addle pated to remember Vietnam (which a LIBERAL Democrat got us into!!!).

By Edd Williams

March 22, 2006 07:34 AM | Link to this

I guess a malicious comment would be any that disagrees with the opinions of Lukavich!

By Edd Williams

March 22, 2006 07:34 AM | Link to this

I guess a malicious comment would be any that disagrees with the opinions of Lukavich!

By Edd Williams

March 22, 2006 07:35 AM | Link to this

I must only suppose that Mr. Lukavich believes that all comments contrary to his opinions are abusive?

By @@

March 22, 2006 07:39 AM | Link to this

RE:

I can’t put the blame for the division of this country on Bush. We were united in a cause after 9/11. The moment intent was called into question, the Democrats were all over it!!! Why? Because they were angry about losing the election. They set out to divide the country for personal and political gain. They’re motives are far too obvious to fool me into voting for them. They have taken the focus off of what threatens us (Islamofacism) and put the focus on what threatens them (Republicans).

This administration’s intentions for going to war have yet to be proven. It’s looking like Saddam’s papers may prove justification.

A viable third party candidate would be nice. I would love to see a presidential ballot that asks the question….”Would you want a third party candidate to counteract the present two?” This might encourage a worthwhile candidate to run. The Nader types just aren’t cutting it. Narrow agendas!

As long as the “extreme left” has a choke hold on the Democratic party, I will vote Republican. I don’t want to see the country destroyed from within by the Democrats.

I’m liking Bush’s new approach. He’s on the offensive rather than the defensive. Turnabout is fair play.

By cynic

March 22, 2006 07:54 AM | Link to this

What do you mean “we” you little p**? Angry about the elections? That’s your carefully thought out reason?-what a joke, what a moron. Do you always assume that what you feel makes something factual? The Republicans spent 25 years dividing the country, finding morons like you to go along with it but all of a sudden now it’s the Democrats’ (i.e. those Liberals with Horns)fault? You and your gelded lackeys get the entire country in trouble and now you want us to join you to get your butts out of trouble? Screw you white man.

By Farrell

March 22, 2006 08:07 AM | Link to this

I feel a real sorrow for this country under Bush ,it will take generations of time for our country to regain the stature had before the Faux Cowboy loped on the scene riding in his big black SUV(He’s scared of Horses,but thinks he’s a Texan Cowpoke)! But I really feal great sorrow for the following ,Anyone named Bush, who has MBA,and is a real cowboy!These folks are the real unheralded folks today marching on daily ,with the stigmata of having Bush for a name,a MBA,or being a real cowboy,or having all three! What a cross to bear!@@ ,who has proven Saddams Papers to be Authentic, Hannity,O’Lielly,Rush?Good God @@, get off the Kool-aid!Please name who who has verified ,without a doubt,the truthiness of those papers!

By The Grinch

March 22, 2006 08:15 AM | Link to this

cynic? Who are you talking to?

BTW….screw you black man.

By AntiRadical

March 22, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this

Regardless of your party affiliation there is one aspect of the current political climate is is completely unmistakeable; our country is becoming more polarized and intransigent each and every day. In this respect the current administration is an abject failure in terms of leadership.

I don’t know if “inclusive” leadership is even possible anymore in America and that is a travesty; I do know that “exclusive” leadership just isn’t working! This is not an attribute assignable to Dems or to Reps as the pundits will try to spin it, it is a societal attitude that is founded in the insecurity felt by all of our citizenry everywhere.

Compromise is the tonic that holds our nation of varying values and ideologies together, it is the essence of politics. We have lost the ability to compromise and our nation is worse for it!

By Empress of Elba

March 22, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this

Screw you white man

cynic,

Thanks for getting to the point in fairly short order.

By DavidU

March 22, 2006 08:33 AM | Link to this

The Basque separatist group ETA has declared a “permanent cease-fire” starting Friday, raising hopes for an end to 37 years of violence in which the group has been blamed for more than 800 deaths.

Interesting development…

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

I agree with @@, it is the bitter, angry election losing liberals that divide America, it’s pretty easy to see that.

Who wants the U.S. to lose in Iraq?

Who wants are economy to fail so much that they have to make up bad news about it?

Who won’t let us drill for domestic energy because they know it will make us financially stronger?

Who wants to raise taxes because they know it will slow the economy?

Who has created a grievance industry blaming all of the world’s problems on the evil “white man?”

By DavidU

March 22, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this

Liberals S&L - I myself am not sure if I’m for or against Thomas. Regarding who elected her? The White House…they are the ones that provide her with the access to the President. Like RW said here or at his page, Bush called on her knowing where she was going to go with her questioning, and she was glad to go there. Both groups got their point across…a win, win situation.

Edd Williams - I think you are talking about my 07:19 PM post. I was referring to the famous or infamous (depending on how you see it) “Mission Accomplished” speech/banner and then ML 2026 cartoon still talking about the Iraq War and how “we are making progress”….that timeline.

By AntiRadical

March 22, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

LS&L- Andy, you are no more willing to adopt liberal agendas than they are to adopt yours. You are, thereby, as much a divider of our nation as any! Both sides always point the finger at the other but in the end all should point at themselves and none ever will.

By Empress of Elba

March 22, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

Like I really trust this research. [How to spot a baby conservative]Conservatives and Berkeley is an oxymoron.(http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/ArticleType1&c=Article&cid=1142722231554&callpageid=970599119419)

They’re not whining - just wisely kicking and screaming when they are forced to participate in “sensitivity training”.

Smart, independent thinkers will rebel at a system that teaches “tolerance” through bullying indoctrination and that finds endless “nuance” in good and evil.

By Dirty Dawg

March 22, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

Heh Luck, if you’re reading these, watching - albeit only briefly as I can only take the guy in small doses - Geedubya’s performance over the past few days, gave me an idea for you: Bush as Captain Queeg from The Caine Mutiny, nervously rolling ball bearings around in his hand as he babbles on incoherently in an effort defend this disastrous war and complaining about constantly disloyal critics, the media…indeed anybody willing to point out his inadequacies - which are legion. You get the idea.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this

DavidU: I think you missed the point of my comment. I’m not saying that we should censor the press, what I am saying is that Helen T belongs to a business that is dependent upon sales and to increase these sales the media has to achieve a higher ratings number. If being disrespectful to a sitting President in the time of war increases your ratings, then the Helen T’s of the world will be born.

Liberals ride Conservatives about only caring for the almighty dollar, but, in truth, liberals are the bigger sops for ratings, polls, etc, because they sell the pinko product line. Liberals have no concern for the well being of the United States, they know that there is a certain portion of the population that wants to see our country to look bad and the media provides that product for them. Whether it’s for their jollies (finch, rushncap) or for winning elections, whatever, it is not good for the future of this great nation.

I’m not saying that Republicans will not also play games to win elections, but our President as explained his motivations in Iraq to be based on his beliefs and principles, the same beliefs and principles that haven’t wavered since 9/11/2001. He wants to protect the country, defeat the terrorists and promote freedom. If this offends Helen Thomas because it bores her paying audience, who should really care?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 09:08 AM | Link to this

From an AP story from last week on a speech that Justice Ginsburg gave in Toledo, Ohio: “Ginsburg, now the only woman on the court after the retirement of Sandra Day O’Connor, said having two women on the court brought a sense of caring and concern to the bench.” Second headline.

What ever happened to having a “sense” of the Constitution?

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this

David U,

Helen Thomas is an arrogant toad who rudely interrupted the President numerous times as he tried to respond to her outrageous allegations.

You can analyze it to death, but there is no other sane conclusion.

Re Dividing the Country,

My God, this is what liberals specialize in. Dividing us up by gender/ethnicity/sexual orientation and then conferring special rights on those groups. Some call it quotas, some just call it “making up for past wrongs”.

Remember, we used to be “Americans” until the Left took over our vocabulary.

By Eric

March 22, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

One thing about the Bush/Helen Thomas exchange, the dumbass NEVER ANSWERED HER QUESTION!!!

By DavidU

March 22, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this

BD - She gets a question every three years, so she wanted to make sure her question was answered. Besides like I said both sides got what they wanted from the exchange.

By Eric

March 22, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this

One thing about the Bush/Helen Thomas exchange, the dumbass NEVER ANSWERED HER QUESTION!!!

By Eric

March 22, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

One thing about the Helen Thomas/Bush exchange, the jerk NEVER ANSWERED HER QUESTION!!!

By getalife

March 22, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

A cartoon with Helen asking why? The “freedom” thread answer was Operation Iraq Liberarion

There is a new blog for the wingnuts at the Post

Of course, you have to email comments and registration at lgf is always closed.

By @@

March 22, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish:

My God, this is what liberals specialize in. Dividing us up by gender/ethnicity/sexual orientation and then conferring special rights on those groups. Some call it quotas, some just call it “making up for past wrongs”.

“Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.” Thomas Mann

Within our borders, I wouldn’t go so far as to call it “evil”, but rather “moral decline”.

I’ll stick with “evil” though if it pertains to “Islamofacism”.

By candide

March 22, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

If jenna bush ever becomes president we will know that the bush family has outdone the English Hanoverians as the most stupid dynasty in history.

By Midori

March 22, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

George Bush is an arrogant toad who rudely interrupted the Presidentcy as he tried to push through his incompetent and outrageous policies.

And you fault Helen Thomas for calling him out on it?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

The confident, resilient, self-reliant kids mostly grew up to be liberals.

Puh-leeze. When you reckon these “brave” “confident” little pinkos will stop suckling at the government’s teat?

By Midori

March 22, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

George Bush is an arrogant toad who rudely interrupted the Presidentcy as he tried to push through his incompetent and outrageous policies.

And you fault Helen Thomas for calling him out on it?

By Midori

March 22, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

The Chimperor is going to make another speech today.

Which Chimperor will show up this time?

1) Jack Nicholson from “The Shining”?

2) Peter Sellers from “Being There”?

3) Sean Penn/Spicoli from “Fast Times at Ridgemont High”?

5) Otis from “The Andy Griffith Show?

6) Mr. Hainey from “Green Acres”?

Yesterday I think he was a combination of 2 and 6.

By Midori

March 22, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

Sorry for the double posts, my bottom lip keeps hitting the enter key.

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

“The IRS is quietly moving to loosen the once-inviolable privacy of federal income-tax returns. If it succeeds, accountants and other tax-return preparers will be able to sell information from individual returns - or even entire returns - to marketers and data brokers.”

Anyone ready to give the Fiar Tax a good critical looking into?

We need to rein in government excesses of dependency and protect our homeland from terrorist!

Unfortunately, democrats want to increase dependency/power, practice isolationism and appease or “whack moles” for defense. This batch of republicrats is only better on defense.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

He will blame his incompetence on the media again, like they do here

Picking on an old lady, have you no shame?

From Andy’s link:

Remember the whiny, insecure kid in nursery school, the one who always thought everyone was out to get him, and was always running to the teacher with complaints? Chances are he grew up to be a conservative

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

Midori-San,

Let me rephrase that. Helen Thomas is an arrogant b*itch who thinks that as a member of the “elite” media she has the right to interrupt the President, even as he graciously tries to respond to her moonbat questions, er, statements.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

Scooter,

Are there lobbyists for the fair tax because if there are not, it will not stand a chance.

I am wondering what the final impact of cheap labor will have on jobs in this country. Are Americans doomed to low paying jobs or will they have to go to anothere country to get a decent middle class job?

Also, the students in France are protesting the law to fire them for no reason. Is that law coming to America?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

No one’s blaming the media for anything, we’re just pointing out the fact that if you take them serious that makes you pretty stupid. Which means that just about every pinko who’s alive today is pretty stupid. The media is a business, they write articles with descriptions like “drew fire from critics” or other ignorant statements, keeping you libs in a perpetual state of conflict, without the slightest concern for the well being of the United States.

If you want to put lipstick on Helen Thomas, nobody is stopping.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Were you a whiney, paronoid, crying to the teacher child?

Is that why you are so heavily medicated you think libs are the enemy and OBL is not?

By rushncap

March 22, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the link, Andy. Another bit of proof what a whiny, malcontent bunch the conservatives (on average) are.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

getalife: I thought you were through with your therapy?

Also, the students in France are protesting the law to fire them for no reason. Is that law coming to America?

You might want to check your scrips.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Yes Andy,

My rehab is complete and am off my major meds and thinking more clearly.

Both parties in government are still corrupt and there are no leaders to fight for the people in Washington.

Hell, it is so bad with the selling of America, I am waiting on the French law to come here because there is nobody in Washington that will stop it.

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

Getalife, HR 25 has fifty house cosponsors right now and as the grassroots calls swell more will come on board. That is why I bring it up so often.

To your questions, HE*LL no the lobbyist are not for the Fair Tax! It is they and politicians that the Fair Tax will take he power away from and they are not stupid.

By cheap labor are you talking about labor in other countries? If so, it will have an impact certainly, business is all about the bottom line. If someone can produce a product in a foreign land with cheap labor and not have that savings eaten up by taxation, shipping costs and tariffs, it is obviously in their advantage to produce the good over seas. The Fair Tax would not tax the stages of production, thereby eliminating that cost variable from business’s decision on where to produce. Not to mention the complexity and financial burden of compliance that this “progressive” tax code places on business. It is projected by smarter people than myslelf that business would love to locate here, save shipping costs, tax costs and have a direct relationship with the world’s capitalist consumers.

Are Americans doomed to low paying jobs? Doomed is a strong word. Nobody is doomed, everyone is responsible for their own position in life. Some people started from a more difficult spot but they could have overcome their positions and achieved success. The problem is, it is easier to declare yourself a victim or less fortunate etc and eliminate yourself from any responsibility. Then look to government to level the playing field by giving them more centralized power over the economy. Centralized government control over the economy is a large part of fascism, don’t tell the liberals cause that is what they are unknowingly advocating. There is a political party in this country that makes its platform on validating people’s victim hood mentality and sheltering people from having to compete for their positions. It is that party that would be more than happy to have the power the french government does.

If you are truly intersted in learning about the Fair Tax, and I think you are, you should join the FairTax Yahoo group. There is a cat named Phil Hinson in there and he is a sharp man who could answer your questions better than I.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

rushncap: Who asked you for your opinion, you little pervert, I’m sorry, big pervert? Why don’t you go wank to a picture of Chairman Mao, you freaking socialist.

By Daniel

March 22, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this

Greedy republicans love money more than the USA.

By rushncap

March 22, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

No one asked for my opinion. I gave it to you. It’s really no use whining about that fact, little man, and your mommy won’t help you make it go away.

By the way, your sexual fantasies are getting odder and odder. You know, if Republicans are in power much longer, it will be illegal for you to do 90% of what you do (hopefully) in the privacy of your own home.

By RW-(the original)

March 22, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

getalife,

The French law is designed to allow the youth over there to get jobs. Dominick de Villipain (sp) is almost unfailingly a wrong headed pain in the a-ss, but he has this one right.

In France once you give someone a job you are stuck with them pretty much for life no matter what they bring to the workplace. Therefore youth unemployment is staggering. This law just puts employees on a two year probationary employment status so employers don’t get stuck with worthless employees. After two years all the socialist protections kick in, so they can go back to being slackers.

By kimberly

March 22, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

Daniel, excellent nutshell.

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

rushncap,

Nice job using Republicans-are-Christofascists demogoguery and spreading unfounded fear about Republicans wanting to intrude into the privacy of your home (and hint hint bedroom ).

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

By Daniel March 22, 2006 11:28 AM Greedy republicans love money more than the USA.

People & Events: The Kennedy Fortune

The Many Mansions of John and Teresa Kerry

Dianne Feinstein, D-California: $26,377,109

John Edwards became a multi-millionaire sueing doctors

Listen to Daniel whine, just like a Conservative.

By RE

March 22, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

“For many men profess their loyalty to true democracy yet bow to mockery and bend the knee to aristocracy, for to live their creed their need is small.”

By Liberals Suck And Have Sex With Dogs

March 22, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this

rushncap: So what 10% will stay legal that you know of? Sounds like you’ve done some research into perversion, you got it all figured out?

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

Kimberly,

Are you calling Daniel a nutshell?

By T. Reznor

March 22, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

“Bow down before the one you serve. You’re going to GET what you deserve.”

By Daniel

March 22, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

Greedy republicans suck money from the USA Treasury.

By kimberly

March 22, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

BD, nope. I’m saying I thought his eloquently simple statement encased the truth about the nuts in America.

By RE

March 22, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

From Fortune mag

By rushncap

March 22, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

Danish — are you suggesting that conservative’s don’t want to regulate what you do in your bedroom? Are you on drugs? These are the same people who try to ban all pornography, who fought tooth-and-nail to keep “sodomy” illegal, even between consenting adults, who seem to think we all need to know who is blowing the President, who hate the 60s because people were having sex then, who are trying to regulate availability of contraceptives (like RU-486) and who think sex education is evil? We’re talking about the same Republicans, right?

Andy, I have done research into perversion. I occasionally read your posts and watch Fox “News”.

By RW-(the original)

March 22, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

It just goes to show that if you troll with the same bait every single day, in this case a lame simple statement, you will eventually catch a fish.

By candide

March 22, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

If voters voted their economic interest the Left would everywhere be in power. But people vote their prejudices, their irrational religious beliefs, and their hope to become in a position to benefit from the criminality of those at the top of the heap. So people vote Republican or Conservative. Political Scientists know that at least 1/3 of the European working classes always voted against the Socialist Parties. They were easily maneuvered into voting for conservatives, religious parties, and when things got tense enough for Fascists. Here in America they vote Republican which, despite Lincoln, has become the party of white supremacy, business supremacy, and military adventurism — in other words, the party of pure Fascism.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Someone has good taste in music /hat tip NIN.

Thanks Scooter,

For the explanation on economic issues. I would have to disagree on jobs being lost due to cheap labor and feel strongly this will cripple the working Americans. The selling of America can no way be seen as good for the average working American. The welfare to Iraqis is good to conservatives but welfare to Americans is bad.

If you want to bash welfare, how about bashing the welfare for Iraq and prove you care about your country.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

By Daniel March 22, 2006 11:51 AM Greedy republicans suck money from the USA Treasury.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Tuesday the federal government has committed some $88 billion to help rebuild the Gulf Coast.

Total federal and state spending on welfare programs was $434 billion in FY 2000.

Social Security Administration will spend $557 billion to pay monthly benefits to more than 52 million people.

Listen to Daniel whine, just like a “Conservative.”

By Don

March 22, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

I thought we won that one.

By Midori

March 22, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

It just goes to show that if you troll with the same bait every single day, in this case a lame simple statement, you will eventually catch a fish.

spoken by the master of lame statements

A mysterious package was found on the WH steps.

Maybe it’s Bush’s “mandate”?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

getalife: Actually, no one said welfare was bad, it’s just that the “Iraq welfare,” or defending our country for you Conservatives, is menial compared to what we give away here in the U.S. You pinkos have some nerve to complain about government spending.

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

Getalife, you asked me about the effects of cheap labor.

“I am wondering what the final impact of cheap labor will have on jobs in this country.”

You see I wasn’t clear on the question, cheap labor here or there.

I am sorry that you feel so strongly that it would cripple the working American to recieve their entire paycheck (minus federal taxes) and have the imbedded costs of goods removed from the retail price. It’s your perogative.

By Daniel

March 22, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

Money grubbing republicans love the almighty buck more than their religion.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

OMG Andy posted a link by CNN.

There is hope for you when you get away from wingnut opinions.

Now go google the tax payer’s money spent in Iraq. I think the new estimate is over 1 trillion for ongoing welfare for Iraq.

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

Getalife that didn’t type out so well. Americans would recieve their entire paychecks, minus state taxes. In other words no federal taxes would be withheld and all Americans would see the costs of this hidiously large, semi dependency state we have given to the political class.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

No, I was talking about lower wages and fewer decent paying jobs due to cheap labor not taxes.

Andy,

It is our money being spent and I would like it spent on Americans not Iraqis. Here is an example:

Take that trillion dollars and invest in alternative fuels like ethanol or other fuels and be serious about weaning our addiction to oil. This would create good jobs, a boom here in sugar cane country and eliminate a foriegn dependency. Other countries like Brazil have done this already so there will be a global market.

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Getalife, Democrats love and support welfare, but only when there is a vote in it for them.

By Daniel

March 22, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

America pays for Universal Health Insurance for every…Iraqi.

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this

By rushncap

March 22, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

Danish — are you suggesting that conservative’s don’t want to regulate what you do in your bedroom? Are you on drugs? These are the same people who try to ban all pornography, who fought tooth-and-nail to keep “sodomy” illegal, even between consenting adults, who seem to think we all need to know who is blowing the President, who hate the 60s because people were having sex then, who are trying to regulate availability of contraceptives (like RU-486) and who think sex education is evil? We’re talking about the same Republicans, right?

Rushncap,

I don’t have the energy to parse these claims line by line. Suffice it to say that it is 99% paranoid baloney.

By Liberal Lucy

March 22, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

Republicans hate kittens and puppies.

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

I’ve noticed on this blog that some have been convinced conservates would impose strict religious laws on American’s behavior. Wrong.. Did your parents or grandparents live under terrible oppresion? What I don’t like is things like Oregon liberals allowing sexual acts to be perfomed on a stage, calling it freedom of speech. Question is, which direction is the country going in.

By finch

March 22, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

Public assistance could certainly be downsized and streamlined. No argument there. And is the Rube Goldberg inspired tax system a bloated, inefficient travesty? Yup. And let’s do something about the federal deficit. Borrow and spend faux Republicans have got to go.

But the real money pit and time waster is Iraq. Which is also far more deadly. Better we solve our own problems first.

getalife, your alternative fuel argument makes too damn much sense. It’ll never fly.

And now for the entertainment portion of our program.

President Bush

Midori, rushncap… I think you’ll enjoy this.

Suck, nothing personal about the title of the link. I don’t run the website. It’s business, okay?

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

I am a senior citizen.

During the Clinton Administration I had an extremely good and well paying job. I took numerous vacations and had ! several vacation homes.

Since President Bush took office, I have watched my entire life change for the worse. I lost my job. I lost my two sons in that terrible Iraqi War. I lost my homes. I lost my health insurance. As a matter of fact I lost virtually everything and became homeless.

Adding insult to injury, when the authorities found me living like an animal, instead of helping me, they arrested me.

I will do anything that Senator Kerry and Senator Kennedy want to insure that a Democrat is back in the White House come next year. Bush has to go.

Sincerely, Saddam Hussein

By Liberal Lucy

March 22, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this

Republicans like to see Americans die for no reason.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this

Thanks finch,

I got lost on your link and ended up in myspace

Warning, bad word used in that link.

Good one Semper Fi.

By Daniel

March 22, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this

Republicans play the nation for suckers. They grab the cash while they feed the “morons” phony religion, gay marriage, and welfare.

By Liberal Lucy

March 22, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

Republicans should be pushed out into the sea just like the Jews.

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

We give foreign aid to countries all over the world. Do you want Democrats to run on an “End Foreign Aid Now” platform?

Sounds like a plan!

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

The federal governmetn is supposed to protect the states in a republican form of government. Believe it or not that is the plan behind enforcing our cease fire agreement with Iraq.

Government providing technology? I haven’t read that anywhere in the Constitution. You all would be surprised whatthe private sector can do better than government when a market presents itself.

The fuel is widely used in Sweden and is becoming increasingly common in the United States, mainly in the Midwest where corn is a major crop and is the primary source material for ethanol fuel production. Minnesota has the largest number of E85 fuel pumps of any U.S. state, with 158 of the 580+ pumps in the country. As of July 2005, Illinois has the second-greatest number of E85 pumps (about 60)

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

I want to get in the childish games!

Democrats are more than happy to take the power and responsibility away from individuals and centralize that in a massive and centralized federal government that will provide minimal existence to the people. At the expense of those evil rich job producers of course.

By Liberal Lucy

March 22, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

Republicans are greedy. They have never and will never give anything to anybody.

By Daniel

March 22, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

The Iraq War is “Republican Aid”.

By candide

March 22, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

Bush will announce this evening that we will invade Belarus to bring them democracy. Lukashenko had better find a spider hole quick.

By @@

March 22, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

Scooter:

Just a question. I’m all for alternative fuel sources. If a blight were to destroy a crop like sugar cane or corn, what would that do to our new found energy source. It has happened in the past. Could the fuel source still be extracted from a diseased crop?

By Liberal Lucy

March 22, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

If you haven’t served then you should not be able to support the war.

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Getalife and Liberal Lucy need to get together on their false charges. One says we give welfare to IRAQ’s, the other says we don’t give anything to anybbody. Please try and coordinate your false accusations.

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

@@, I’m no plant biologists but I was in the College of Agriculture. I’m sure it depends on what the disease attacked within the plant and how it broke down the compounds of the plant.

It certainly is a possibility, just like OPEC may break down our relations, now that China is a big consumer of their good. @@, did you know we get very little of our oil from the middle east?

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

Democrats give away other peoples money that is stolen by the imperial federal government in exchange for political power to democrats. While conservatives give to churches and private charities and generaly advocate for less government. Current “compassionate” conservatives excluded. But hey, republicans are now playing the vote buying game with the democrats and we have slowly been progressing to a socialist state. Cause the libs give NO ground to the free market while republicans have been willing to unify by concession and now we have the drip, drip, drip, of socialist policies coming to our borders.

Gotta love thoise unions if they are all that protect your incompetent arse from being canned at work.

By @@

March 22, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

Scooter:

So what are you saying? Nothing in life is an absolute?

Yep! I knew that…..

Anticipating your answer to the first question…….

By getalife

March 22, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Semper Fi,

It is not an accusation, it is reality. I know some of you who live in Bushville have a problem with reality, especially the news when it is bad.

Scooter,

Brazil uses sugar cane to ethanol and here is some research.

There is a $200,000 start up here locally and they are lobbying for a 4 million dollar grant from the government. It is a start.

By Daniel

March 22, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Scooter: What planet are you writing about? Name the last republican president to balance a budget? Government spending and control over our lives has risen dramatically in the last five years of total republican power. (Schiavo?) The size of government has grown exponentially in the same time. Debt is in the stratosphere! We’re 9 trillion in debt, pal! You’re stuck in your seventh grade civics class, it’s time to wake up. Your nation needs you.

By rushncap

March 22, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

No, Danish, you don’t have the guts or the facts, which takes precedence over the far more fatuous matter of whether you have the energy. I’m right on every point, and you know it. Energy! LOL. You seem to have the energy to keep posting here ad infinitum, but when confronted with some facts this energy seems to conveniently dissipate into the aether. Riiiight.

By Liberal Lucy

March 22, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

Democrats make sure we share all our toys, just like Mommy does.

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

Getalife, I am not going to argue with you. Liberal Lucy might. She’s the one with the opposing opinion.

By Ralph

March 22, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

Perfect. One guy completely unmasks and unclothes the lies and deceit of this fake “Semper Fi.” And in so doing also reveals the lies of all the other phony pretend big-deal “Nam” vets on this blog. And there are many. Congratulations, Sir. These fakes are an insult to the Nation.

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Have you ever heard of The Marshall Plan?

Whatever assistance (aid) that we are giving the Iraqis is meant to be temporary, which is a lot more than can be said for most of our won entitlement programs.

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

Ralph, Scott, Bill, etc. What’s your problem dude? Were you rejected when you tried to enlist? Was it for mental reasons?

By Liberal Lucy

March 22, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

Democrats serve in the military. Republicans only pretend or lie about it.

By Liberal Lucy

March 22, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

Republicans put Support the Troops ribbons on their cars and mailboxes when their sons and daughters go to war. Democrats chastise them.

By @@

March 22, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Maybe Scooter can decipher the chemistry on your link.

Can you? Be honest now!! You always left me with the impression that the only chemistry you appreciated was the process of fermentation. Just kidding…

By @@

March 22, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

Liberal Lucy:

Democrats chastise the sons and daughters who go to war???

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this

Daniel, when I was in my 7th grade civics class the sensationalist hyper liberals of the day were going bonkers about Reagan’s deficits and how my grandkids were going to be paying for it. Daniel, when did that deficit get projected to be paid off and what did that do to the economy?

Granted I’m not for big deficits, but I would rather have those than burying my head in the global sand. Burying our heads while we enable idiots and lazy a**es who don’t want to learn and earn more than the government will give them. We need to get government out of education and social engineering, because it is a direct conflict of interest. Do you think that a socialist country would ever be willing to give up their handout programs to defend their freedom? Libs are real quick to quote Ben Franklin about people willing to give up freedom or liberty, for security, deserve neither, but Socialist will do almost anything for economic and financial security.

Sure, in France you have to join the military but it is a jobs program for people to train for a future career.

I’m always here for my country. Are you using the deficits to question my patriotism? The government doesn’t seem to want me because I bounced off the asphalt a few times at 80 miles per hour and spent months in rehab. For that reason you libs will always be able to disqualify me as a chickenhawk.

As far as control over our lives, whatever. I don’t like the legilaation of morality and think it is almost as stupid as liberal social engineering policies. I’ve never had a problem breaking laws but you cannot escape a government controlled economy.

Perhaps you should seak a position in France’s government and stop trying to make the US like them.

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Why don’t you give ME some facts? You know that these are “nuanced” issues don’t you? You have to be simple-minded to make the kind of statements that you make.

For example, Republicans (Conservatives) may object to sex education for elementary school students, but not object to all sex education. One State may have a different consensus than another. One Republican may disagree with another Republican. And so on!

Or, hang on because this is really complex- we may not want “pornography” during prime-time broadcast hours that our children watch.

You paint everything with a very wide brush, and end up with a really bad picture that could have been painted by a monkey with better results.

By Big Bad Elephant

March 22, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

Liberal Lucy,

Are you a hoax or are you for real?

By getalife

March 22, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

@@,

You know me too well. It is research on emmissions for ethanol. Brazil already has done the research and have implemented the refineries from sugar cane to ethanol which has decreased the cost of fuel.

We are behind in alternative and cheaper fuels. They are starting to talk about it here in Louisiana.

By Liberal Lucy

March 22, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this

Republicans waste fuel driving SUVs.

Democrats save fuel by driving SUVs.

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this

If, as in liberal Oregon, public intercourse is allowed, based on free speech ,and teachers can say anything to their 3rd grade students, based on free speech, would the next liberal step be that teachers can have sex on their desk with the janitor, while students watch, based on free speech? This liberal path scares me.

By RE

March 22, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

Semper, I loved your post last night, my response was at 3:42 AM.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

I am guessing motorcycle accident? I have had a few of them along with a few car accidents. Rehab sux, Cheney would be great at it because he likes torture.

Sorry @@, sneer.

By Liberal Lucy

March 22, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

Democrats make sure all people can enjoy sex just like Mommy does.

By red

March 22, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

test

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

getalife, motorcycle would make more sense, but the top of a truck got ripped off, I apparently ducked and went for my flight. It was the landing that sucked.

What doesn’t kill us shall only make us stronger.

I think I told you before, but that evil free market conservative Bernie Marcus and his Bridge Program paid most all my medical expenses. We really need to tax those guys more so government can take more control, shuh.

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

To ethanol or not to ethanol? I vote no, and here’s why -

A reasonable and historical review of the subject. Note the objection from a Cornell Scientist - the alma mater of one of a fellow blogger

Given future technological advancement, Water is another possible replacement for oil, but then we could be going to war for water, couldn’t we?

Meanwhile, the caribou roam undisturbed…

By red

March 22, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

test

By Big Bad Elephant

March 22, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

liberal lucy,

I think I got your answer, but it’s hard to tell because there are a lot of moonbats out there.

Your ribbons on mailboxes post threw me.

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

Excuse my poor English in the blue link to the ethanol post and delete “one of”!

By rushncap

March 22, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

Still no “energy”, Danish?

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

RE, I see your 3:42 post. Thanks for appreciating my post. I believe you to be simply a concerned person for the US. For what it’s worth, I don’t agree with BUSH on everything, especially spending. I also, do not believe all the hate intended press he gets from the liberal media. I am a Christian frst. My biggest fear is where the liberals are trying to take the country. The US will only be destroyed from within and the current biggest threat is liberals. I stand strongly against them. I will stand with anything that opposes them. I left the democratic party when they took it over.

By DCM

March 22, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

WWJD - “What Would Jenna Drink?”

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this

ETHANOL FACTS:

More damning, however, is that converting corn to ethanol requires about 99,119 BTUs to make one gallon, which has 77,000 BTUs of available energy. So about 29 percent more energy is required to produce a gallon of ethanol than is stored in that gallon in the first place. “That helps explain why fossil fuels (not ethanol) are used to produce ethanol,” Pimentel says. “The growers and processors can’t afford to burn ethanol to make ethanol. U.S. drivers couldn’t afford it, either, if it weren’t for government subsidies that artificially lower the price.” All told, a gallon of ethanol costs $2.24 to produce, compared to $0.63 for a gallon of gasoline.

That’s before taxes of course.

Anyone want to bet on how much time and money we waste going after this loser? Maybe I’ll go into corn farming for awhile…

By getalife

March 22, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

See, I knew I could count on someone finding new arguments. I stopped reading when I saw the Homer Simpson alarm clock.

Looks like the study was done on corn not sugar cane and other countries were not researched. It is working in other countries.

The sugar refineries have shut down here due to global trade and they are looking for alternatives for the sugar cane farmers to sell locally.

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this

RUSHNCAP. I AM REBROADCASTING MY RESPONSE FOR YOU:

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Why don’t you give ME some facts? You know that these are “nuanced” issues don’t you? You have to be simple-minded to make the kind of statements that you make.

For example, Republicans (Conservatives) may object to sex education for elementary school students, but not object to all sex education. One State may have a different consensus than another. One Republican may disagree with another Republican. And so on!

Or, hang on because this is really complex- we may not want “pornography” during prime-time broadcast hours that our children watch.

You paint everything with a very wide brush, and end up with a really bad picture that could have been painted by a monkey with better results.

Got that? It takes a lot of energy to deal with special ed students.

Not unlike watching grass grow, and having to explain what makes grass grow…

By getalife

March 22, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Let me help

Sugar cane not corn. Read about other countries already doing it.

By @@

March 22, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Maybe it is working in other countries because their consumption is nowhere near what ours is.

Buy Danish:

Thanks for the expansion in the thought process.

By @@

March 22, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish:

Got that? It takes a lot of energy to deal with special ed students.

I can personally vouch for that energy source.

By buff

March 22, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

Get

I just saw your post from yesterday

I am OK, but have not been on here much this month. I am playing a lot of poker on Partypoker.com. Lost of fun, cheap too

By clark

March 22, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

@@ ; Have you heard of this site?

By @@

March 22, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

Buff:

Glad to see you’re having fun.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

You problably did tell me but my memory is very bad. Sometimes that is a good thing.

You are right;

What doesn’t kill us shall only make us stronger

By getalife

March 22, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this

buff,

Partypoker.com very addictive. I can see why you have not been around.

I am ready for some football. Looks like the dawgs got them a quarterback. The Saints dumped theirs and got Drew Brees.

By @@

March 22, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

clark:

I can’t say that my students exhibit those types of behaviors. I teach at a private school which awards numerous scholarships to impoverished families. Besides, behavior modification techniques is where I excel. The parents have to reinforce them at home in order for them to be successful. My kid’s parents realize the importance of that and do reinforce.

But the article is correct if it extends to all children, typical and otherwise, of irresponsible parents. It is a perpetuating cycle.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

Danish: You’ll have to forgive rushncap, he is a Code Pink Queen, they don’t deal with facts over there, just whatever sounds good to them.

Every “alternative” fuel these libs throw out there, I guess to try and get us off the drilling trail, you have to burn gasoline to produce it. Isn’t that typical for a pinko, though?

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

@@,

LOL. Yep, I could have fed a hungry child with the amount of energy it required to deal with that lifeless post.

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I’ve read one article so far but have a question. Re Brazilian sugarcane, it said:

On average, 2.7 gallons of ethanol are produced from a bushel of corn and 85 litres (22.5 gallons) of ethanol are produced from a ton of cane.

Is that a reasonable comparison - bushels to tons?

Off to read more…

By Daniel

March 22, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

The deficits question your thinking. Ok, I get Reagan. When does the “Borrow and Spend” stop? What position have I taken here that makes me a liberal and not a “True Conservative”? The Bush crowd are “Corporate Socialists”. If your a Bush pal, you get the dough. The Cato Institute calls Bush a Socialist; I think they’re right. Anyone! Answer one simple question: When does the Bush Big Governnment Borrow and Spend stop?

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

@@,

Re Rushncaps post,

FYI, I used “special ed” because of the patience and energy required to teach these students…

Sorry in advance if it appeared insensitive..

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

When we cut spending?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

Here in Seattle, where there is a high concentration of aging hippies and Wobblies, many protesters seem more interested in the social than the political aspect of their gatherings. Every Sunday afternoon, a small group gathers at a local park, ostensibly to wave signs at passing motorists. They mostly chat and share refreshments. Even on weeks when there is an “atrocity” that might stimulate turnout, few more than the core group put in an appearance.

Rarely do I see anyone under 40 at these rallies. I have come to the conclusion that rallying is the hobby of the aging hippie. How better to relive your youth? The country’s defeat in Vietnam was their victory. Calling for America’s defeat now helps them get a thrill, the same way driving an old Cobra excites the retired hot-rodder.

By Jean

March 22, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this

Terrific to see little men like Semper Fi exposed openly for the fakes that they are. There’re a lot of Semper Fi’ s on this blog. Like their Leader, they have no shame even when they’re caught red handed. So much for “values, morals, Bible-quoting” from this bunch.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this

I have a question about defecits, can any of you libs show the harm that they are doing to the economy?

By getalife

March 22, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

BD,

22.5 gallons of ethanol are produced from a ton of cane.

Today, Louisiana sugarcane yields range from 30 to 50 tons per acre.

1125 gallons per acre.

By Daniel

March 22, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

Jean makes a good point. They’re a lot of knuckleheads on this blog. BD: It’s a start. I write to Congress once month on cutting spending. Why is anyone happy that the republicans are busting the budget, raising the debt ceiling and spending on pork and not the democrats? The brown nose Bush loyalists are killing the USA.

By RE

March 22, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

Here you go Andy

So that is between 320 billiom to 355 billion spent anually on interest. I would call that a wasteful spending practice

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

Daniel, hopefully in a year or so when the republicrats gets put in check. Bush is only half the socialist every democrat in Washington wants to be. So don’t try the “bait and switch” it ain’t gonna catch anyone.

Daniel, anytime one dollar is taken away from any program, which political party comes out with their hyper sensationalist ranting about the poor pitiful poor and the misery it is going to cause?

Hint: it is the same political party that is always telling people they are the victim and only government can help them. It is also the party that loves to steal money from the job producers and shower the poor pitiful poor with consequence reducing programs.

Minimize the consequences of ones poor decisions and reduce the motivation to learn from ones mistakes. Now that is great “leadership”.

Who here has driven through poor areas and noticed how many satellite dishes are on the roofs or in the front yard?

By Brett

March 22, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

Jean: I’ve always known Semp was/is a fraud. From the very beginning. Easy to spot those would-be men. They are their own “traps.” Crippled minds. Had he ever served he’d have had the p—p beat out of him daily and pitched out w a BCD. He’s zero credibility. Zero value. But he’ll keep yappin. Seeking a twinge of make-believe masculinity from behind a screen. Sick, sick boy.

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

Daniel soory the delay got me. To your latest question about supporting Bush and not democrats. You should have heard all the opeople who came out against the prescription drug entitlement.

It is hte lesaser of two evils and you ar enot going to like it, but I voted for Bush so he could finish his legacy in Iraq. Whatever it may turn out to be, it is his and he deserves credit.

By Scooter

March 22, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

Wow, Brett must be a cyber psychic or just a presumptive p******.

Peace out ya’ll! this greedy “chickenhawk” is going to his second job.

Boy, you could tell I was typing fast on that last post.

By RW-(the original)

March 22, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

Looks like the whole community bathing gang is all showing up. Have you guys started two-a-weeks or just planning to stink up this place?

By getalife

March 22, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

BD,

Brazilian ethanol is made mainly from sugar cane. Pure ethanol (100% ethanol) is used in approximately 40 percent of the cars in Brazil. The remaining vehicles use blends of 24 percent ethanol with 76 percent gasoline. Brazil consumes nearly 4 billion gallons of ethanol annually. In addition to consumption, Brazil also exports ethanol to other countries

Peace out Scooter.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this

RE: I’m talking about actual damage that it does to the economy. Layoffs, negative growth, inflation, things like that. How do you figure paying debt service “harms” the economy? Don’t say that it takes capital expenditures away from the federal government because you are a pinko and there is no way you can say you care about that. The entitlement program you people get all excited about probably accounts for half of all the drug and alcohol related deaths in this country, so that money actually costs more than what gets paid out, in hospitalization, death benefits, etc.

By Daniel

March 22, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

Andy: I normally ignore you. But, I will make one exception here. Read the RE post. Deficits violate the basic conservative philosophy: live within your means. Once corporations line up at the public trough we’re in trouble. The pivate sector creates the wealth, not Big Government. Once the parasites get addicted to borrowed money, how do we get rid of them? I concede the problem with an alternative. I have argued the republican party is out of control. I will take fiscal respnsibility wherever I can get it. Clinton balanced budgets. Deficits create waste.

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

Jean/Brett what happened to clown?? I was sort of proud of that reference. I’ve seen a lot of clowns in rodeo risk their life to save a cowboy. I am sure that what you mean.

By N-GA

March 22, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this

Well Andy….you are once again begging for instruction.

• The Comptroller of the U.S., David Walker, said that the U.S. economy is on the verge of disaster due to budget deficits and trade imbalances

• Warren Buffet (big GOP contributor) is betting on the collapse of the U.S. dollar because of soaring budget deficits and record trade imbalance

• Alan Greenspan stated several times that the U.S. economy cannot sustain these budget deficits

But Andy, you can keep your head in the sand (or somewhere else that is real dark).

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

I’m not saying that I approve of huge federal deficits, I’m saying that the “harm” is being seriously exaggerated. Spending promotes growth, whether it is private or government doing it. The money paid to the debt service helps to lower interest rates and make money more available for growth. Plus the investment bankers are not snorting it up their noses.

By RW-(the original)

March 22, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Why do want to take the option of people buying T-bills and savings bonds away from them?

By Ricky

March 22, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

Its funny how ml spins everything to his own personal view points. Yes the president said they still might be troops in Iraq when he leaves office. Did he say how many? No he didn’t. It might be 100,000 it me be 10,000. Realistically it will probably be somewhere in the middle. Yet another example of how flawed our political process is right now. People don’t want to debate the meat of an issue. They just take the polar opposite of what they like and blast the side they don’t like.

By RE

March 22, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

Rw, I am trying to not say anything insulting, so let me just say that your last comment about paying down the debt would limit people investment choices is a little far fetched. T-bills and savings bonds pay almost nothing right now, just about 1.7% over inflation. Aside from a grandfather providing a gift to his grandchild, t-bills are not much of an investment. I guess I would take away the oppertunity to buy t-bills from people if it meant we could lower the budget and thus RESPONSIBLY lower the tax rate.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Check out the money spent on interest to the debt borrowed

Just think of all the entitlement programs you love so much, could benefit from all that money.

Maybe use that money to invest in alternative fuels like ethanol?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

RE: That’s great, Mr. Professor, come at me with evidence of what bad things might happen. I asked a real simple question, what damage has been done and all you can do is stutter?

Posted 5/3/2004 8:16 AM Updated 5/3/2004 8:59 AM- Warren Buffett joins Kerry’s economic advisory team Yeah, real big GOP man he is. He bankrolled Clinton in 1992, which ushered in the Dark Age in the United States, F’k Warren Buffet.

Look at this chart and tell me which President brought interest rates down from the stratosphere.

Now, if interest rates are unreasonably high and nobody is borrowing money, what happens to spending and growth, Einsten?

By Daniel

March 22, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this

I want a strong fiscally responsible America. I want a productive America. I want “Made in America” to have meaning. And, I don’t like it when greedy corporations line up at the public treasury.

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Devils advocate questions:

1125 gallons per acre. That doesn’t seem like a very efficient use of an acre of land. Roughly enough to run two cars for one year? (12 X 50)

I’d like to see what those Brazilian cars look like. Are they tin cans or are they real cars?

It may be great in places like Jamaica that grow sugar cane in abundance, but is it practical to use throughout the world?

I’d like to see what one acre in Anwar would produce.

I am not opposed to ethanol as long as it makes sense.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this

Since Iraq is W’s war, don’t you think he should be meeting with Iraq officials and encourage them to get their act together instead of spewing campaign speeches?

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this

RW,

You’re right - Brett and Jean always seem to show up at the same time. Fellow travelers in Moronic Convergence.

Maybe they are back from last week’s protests - stopping in to get new sign-making supplies before they trek off to their next destination.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this

getalife: So cutting the Katrina rebuild funding, reforming social security, reforming the IRS and reforming the welfare entitlement system is high up on your list?

Or do want to surrender to the terrorists?

By RW-(the original)

March 22, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

RE,

Don’t start biting your typing fingers now. I didn’t say a frickin’ word about those being good investments, they’re nearly as bad as Socialist Security. The fact remains that every time someone buys them they become part of the national debt and don’t kid yourself about how many people that have been indoctrinated to think the government is the only safe investment buy them. (not to mention I was just screwing with Daniel and he was smart to stay away from it so far, more than I can say for you)

By RE

March 22, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

The president had nothing to do with the interest rate, that was set by Greenspan as a way to try to stimulate the economy after 9-11. Your right, the economy is fantastic, we never need to pay our debt, who cares about 350 billion extra in spending per year, and that is at historical low interest payments. Watch what that expenditure will do in the next year or so as rates begin to climb up.

Let me ask you this simple basic question, if we lower our spending, wouldn’t our tax rates decline as well?

By getalife

March 22, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this

BD,

Thanks for the interest and I am just starting to research. Keep in mind there are thousands of acres here used to grow cane and the sugar refineries have went out of business.

The cars in Brazil are small and ethanol is cheap.

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this

LS&L,

I love that chart, but did you have to remind me of Jimmy Carter?

I am no economist, but when interest rates are low isn’t that a good time to borrow, especially if we can earn more on the dollar than we spend on borrowing?

Just a thought…

P.S. I have my pit bull at the ready to fend off all the cries of astonishment and despair from the deficit hawks, and to keep the dirty bathwater crew away from me.

By RW-(the original)

March 22, 2006 06:16 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I think Ralph showed up too. They always like to pick on Semper Fi before bath time so I guess it has something to do with their tub game fantasies.

Semper Fi,

Sorry for the visual that this twisted group is using you in some bizarre fantasy.

By Empress of Elba

March 22, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

The president had nothing to do with the interest rate

RE,

Don’t the President’s policies have some effect on inflation? Doesn’t high inflation lead to higher interest rates?

I’m with you on the spending cuts, but I am not pulling out of Iraq.

On my way out the door. My pit bull is hungry. I’ll be back later…

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

Sigh: The president had nothing to do with the interest rate, that was set by Greenspan as a way to try to stimulate the economy after 9-11.

Jimmy Carter 25% interest rate.

Ronald Reagan (God Bless His Soul) 8% interest rate.

It’s called economic policy, it’s the President’s prerogative, My Lord, I thought knowing these basic things was a given, I guess I shouldn’t as-sume.

So the Fed Chair is the one who can reduce spending?

Again, where’s the damage? The deficit spending is roughly equal to what the war on terror is costing. Do you want to be a dhimmi or what?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

Empress: Excellent point on the favorable borrowing window. Every where you look nowadays someone is building something. More bang for your buck, Bush is just getting some of the action.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 06:32 PM | Link to this

Yes, these are great policies W will leave for future generations.

At least he did not cut and run like his Daddy but looking at the mess, I think Daddy had a little more sense.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

“America doesn’t need a salesman for a dangerously incompetent policy,” Swimmer Kennedy said. “We need leadership and a policy that can succeed.”

We already know these libs need a policy, why must they remind us?

By RE

March 22, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this

RW, you really got me on that one, I am very proud of you

By RE

March 22, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this

Better than e-bay

the COC

By getalife

March 22, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

President Bush represents something different from the normal sloshing back and forth between liberalism and conservatism. He’s a radical. He’s set on a destructive course, laced with corruption and fed by extremism. And he mistakenly believes that stubbornness and ignorance constitute a virtue he calls ‘leadership’.

Man, now that is a vicious lib.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 22, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

Poll: Most Americans Love Coulter Columns

Like callers to talk radio claiming to be Republicans angry with Republicans, liberals love to pretend public opinion is always in the process of shifting in their direction. They can’t win elections — Democrats have gotten a majority vote in a national election only two times since FDR was president (Lyndon Johnson in ‘64 and Jimmy Carter in ‘76). But they’re always experiencing an upswing in the polls.

Clinton could never get a majority of Americans to vote for him but, according to the polls, as soon as the public found out about his sex romps with Monica, his support shot up to above 80 percent. Bush did get a majority of the country to vote for him less than two years ago. Now we’re told 70 percent of Americans hate the man.

By RE

March 22, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

The fed chair sets the prime lending rate, which roughly corosponds to mortgage rates and more directly to credit card rates. The fed chair is supposed to be independent of the president, I think greenspan served 3 or 4 different presidents. The Fed sets the rates to try to compensate for inflation /deflation, and stimulate growth. The lower the rate is set at, the easier it is to borrow money, however it is also less benifical to save money. What happened in early 2001 is that the fed tried very hard to stem a possible recession from occuring.

By Buzz

March 22, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

The Presidunce has spoken 3 days in a row now. During these high adventures is one supposed to laugh, vomit, or both?

By Daniel

March 22, 2006 07:06 PM | Link to this

Here are the current republican budget constainnts. Take your pick. “Gee, can we use one credit card to pay off the other?” Or, “How can we be overdrawn? We still have some checks left!” I’ve had enough for one day.

By RE

March 22, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this

Oh, for reference, The highest historical lending rates were during the 1st term of Reagan(21% in 82). Presidents are not directly tied to the lending rate.

By getalife

March 22, 2006 07:18 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

They had to raise the debt limit so they would not default on the loan. Then they went spending like drunk Republicans. They left the mess for the next administration to clean up.

By clark

March 22, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this

Then they went spending like drunk Republicans. They left the mess for the next administration to clean up.

Like Iraq…

By Empress of Elba

March 22, 2006 07:35 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

What is the rate that the government spends to borrow? Is it the same rate as a credit card?

Do you have anything against traditional home mortgages or is that reckless borrowing?

RW,

You are so observant. How could I have not noticed the return of the regurgitated meal?

By N-GA

March 22, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this

Let’s see if Andy-the-bed-wetter is still around.

He remarks (stupidly) about GWB lowering interest rates. The biggest borrower in the world is the USA. The biggest expense in the budget is interest on the national debt.

Foreign countries (& companies) are spending their excess dollar reserves by buying chunks of America…..American ports, American companies….American buildings, even American farmland.

But Andy thinks that’s all good as long as he has his tax cuts, illegal wars, Halliburton earnings from no-bid contracts, government corruption, and windfall profits for the oil companies.

Yes Andy…you are the REAL American….you pathetic bed wetter.

By Empress of Elba

March 22, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

clark,

We’re still cleaning up Clinton’s mess, particularly involving a chap named Bin “Bombs Away” Laden who went on a bit of a spree during the Clinton years.

By Buy Danish

March 22, 2006 07:43 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

Oh, shut up already. What a freaking, repetitive bore you are. Can you try to get some new material? It was old the first time you tried it.

Why don’t you see if Ralph, Jean,or Brett will invite you over for a nice bath.

By RE

March 22, 2006 07:47 PM | Link to this

The gov’t borrowing rate is market driven and fluctuates, the current rate is about 4.5%

By the way, how is that Bin Laden clean up going anyway, or do you need another 5 years?

By N-GA

March 22, 2006 07:50 PM | Link to this

Now BD chimes in….a girl who aspires to be confused with Kathy Bates….someone who opens her mouth and nothing of importance comes out. Can’t you contribute? Don’t bother to answer. Why not give your dried out old husk a rest.

By WXH

March 22, 2006 07:54 PM | Link to this

The ush family has dealt with the Bin Laden family, as does the Carlyle Group where Poppy gets his income. The UAE just dropped many millions into the Carlyle Group perhaps thinking it greased the way for ownership of our ports.

Get your facts right, the Bin Laden family and the Bushes are the closely related folks, Clinton is a newbie consultant.

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this

George Soros is tied to the Carlyle group and Bill Clinton is running around stomping that the UAE port deal was good. Of course he didn’t check with Hillary to sync their truths, so was out of step. Democrats working both sides of the street. Tis hard to figure where they stand on issues, assuming they really do.

By Semper FI

March 22, 2006 08:13 PM | Link to this

Talking about cleaning up a previous admins mess, is the Bush DOJ getting any credit for putting the corporate thieves of the 90’s in prision? Nope. I especially liked Ebber from WCOM getting his punishment. His lies on CNBC maybe be double my WCOM investment, which of course is now toilet paper.

By seeker

March 22, 2006 08:24 PM | Link to this

Empress the shape shifter.

Osama and Qaeda killed 42 Americans on Clinton’s watch. Some spree.

They’ve killed at least 5500 on Bush’s watch.

Now that’s a spree.

And he’s still alive, while the Bush monkey tarries at the Cheney Rumsfeld punchbowl.

What an idiot drunk the Bush monkey is.

By Paul Lambert

March 27, 2006 07:40 AM | Link to this

Saw it in the Boston Sunday Globe: on point.

Another setting for Ms Bush or her sister…

America Needs More Candidates Named Bush:

Platoon Leader Candidate Bush, J.

Squad Leader Candidate Bush, B.