Mike Luckovich

By Scooter

March 16, 2006 07:05 PM | Link to this

Lord knows we can’t do anything until a bomb goes off in our backyard. Anything else would be preemptive and against dems defense strategy. So lets put dems in charge and hope the strike doesn’t happen in our hometown.

Republicrats aren’t proving to be much better at spending. Where are the limited government conservatives? We know the dems love their government big and they seem to be sissies for defense.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 16, 2006 07:05 PM | Link to this

It’s either that or Decatur. I think they have more enemies than Iran does.

By Proud to be Dubya

March 16, 2006 07:20 PM | Link to this

“I think the American people — I hope the American — I don’t think, let me — I hope the American people trust me.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2002

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 16, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

See, unmanly men — wimps, men that have been cowed, men that have been feminized — wait for the safety of consensus, and that’s what a poll is, because a poll that shows us a majority of something, a consensus gives you an escape hatch.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 16, 2006 07:28 PM | Link to this

Now that I mention it, I DO know a lot about being a man that has been feminized. OOOOOh, feels good.

By Semper FI

March 16, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

Doesn’t really matter which GW picks. Democrats are agaisnt it, even if America is weakened in the process. It’s all about them getting back the power they had for 40 years.

By Proud to be Dubya

March 16, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this

“There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.” —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002

By UNC-CH1795

March 16, 2006 07:33 PM | Link to this

Runaway government spending isn’t a just a conservative thing or a liberal thing, it’s a Washington thing in an environment that been fostered by legislators making any special-interest law for the highest-bidder. Whatever party is in charge seems to have the problem of never meeting a special-interest dollar or gift that they didn’t like. I guess that if lobbyists were throwing that much money and that many favors in my face, I’d probably have a hard time turning it down too, kinda like married pro sports players who get propositioned by numerous voluptulously-shaped groupies night after night, it just becomes apart of the environment in which they live.

Did you see the swearing in of the oil company executives in front of Congress earlier this week? Most of those guys had confident little smirks on their faces and one guy looked as if he was getting ready to break out in laughter. Those hearings about high oil and gas prices are nothing more than a joke or formality to them because they know that they’ve got most of the Senators that are supposedly “questioning” them on suspiciously high gas prices deep in the pockets of big oil.

By DavidU

March 16, 2006 07:33 PM | Link to this

The U.S. military and Iraqi forces launched the largest helicopter assault in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion in a bid to root out insurgents hiding around Samarra….Operation Swarmer began early today with more than 1,500 U.S. and Iraqi troops, about 200 tactical vehicles and more than 50 helicopters, the U.S. military said in a statement e-mailed from Baghdad. Samarra is about 80 miles (125 kilometers) north of Baghdad on the Tigris River.

Shock and Awe part Duce? Sequels never produce the same results as the original version. By the way, I thought the situation in Iraq was ‘peachy’, guess that was just political spin.

By Scooter

March 16, 2006 07:38 PM | Link to this

UNC *, research the Fair Tax, HR 25, and see how it can take the lobbying power away from our political leaders. The Fair Tax would be clear and hard to hide favors in.

Now I’m out

By Semper FI

March 16, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

Anyone that thinks war is peachy, is an idot. War is hellll and we will have better chance of winning this one, if liberals would quit supporting the enemy. We have way too many Jane’s in this one, but fortunately we have a Prez that is bent on trying to do the right thing.

By Susan

March 16, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

I keep reading snippets about someone using Buff’s deceased father’s name somehow. Would someone explain or say which date it was on. Thanks

By Midori

March 16, 2006 07:42 PM | Link to this

I’ll bet against anything that the Moron-in-Chief chooses.

By Midori

March 16, 2006 07:43 PM | Link to this

David,

I suspect Bush is trying to bomb his poll numbers up.

I saw the McClellan press conference today. He says Bush didn’t order the bombing. Nor did the Pentagon.

Yeah, sure………

By SS&S

March 16, 2006 07:50 PM | Link to this

Commenting on the toon!

The day Bush starts making decisions based on polls will be the day he becomes a politician within the Democratic party.

No thanks, I’ll take him like he is, committed to a cause and not himself.

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 07:51 PM | Link to this

Susan,

Here

By Scooter

March 16, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this

Midori, great minds think a like obviously, cause that’s what was being speculated on Air America today. Bombing for better poll numbers is what Jerry Springer was talking about, but you weren’t listening I’m sure.

By Brian Curtis

March 16, 2006 08:02 PM | Link to this

You have to admire Bush’s conviction—which I hope will follow quickly after his indictment.

Explain to us again how it’s a virtue to be stubborn when you’re wrong, like Bush invariably is?

By Semper FI

March 16, 2006 08:03 PM | Link to this

Bush is letting the Generals run this war. If the bombings have good results, you will not hear much about it in the liberal media, if there is any imperfections it will be first page news for days and all Bush’s fault, even if he didn’t order it.

By Semper FI

March 16, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

Right will always be wrong to wrong thinking people. Keep voting democrat and keep losing. Indictment, what a joke.

By Objective Observer

March 16, 2006 08:09 PM | Link to this

R.W. - I was hesitant to respond to Susan. I hesitated to suggest that certain individuals here (participants directly or indirectly) take her to view the carnage.

Something that they can claim as their civil discourse.

I miss seeing Buff here. Who will offer an explanation seeing how jackers were using good people’s names to perpetuate their vindictive behavior.

Comrades in Arms? More like “Comrades in Harm”.

By SS&S

March 16, 2006 08:17 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis - You are only guessing at what motivates the man, and your need to see only the negative possibilities is your problem, not mine.

By Susan

March 16, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this

R.W.

Thank you for responding. I didn’t read the blog that day as March 9th was the anniversary of my mother’s death and I was a little down.

I am sorry this happened to Buff.

Apparently this person has never felt the hurt of losing a parent.

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 08:20 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

I was too and I have no idea her motivations. We’ll see I guess. Not to be a pimp or anything but some are hanging out here, hopefully Buff will see that and pop in. There has already been a request for Andy to show up, so Andy bring a six pack and a picture of dogs playing poker. We have a new decorator.

By Semper FI

March 16, 2006 08:23 PM | Link to this

THINKING

It started out innocently enough. I began to think at cocktail parties.

Now and then — just to loosen up.

Inevitably, though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more than just a social thinker.

I began to think alone — “to relax,” I told myself — but I knew it wasn’t true.

Thinking became more and more important to me, and finally I was thinking all the time.

That was when things began to sour at home. One evening I turned off the TV and asked my wife about the meaning of life.

She spent that night at her mother’s.

I began to think on the job. I knew that thinking and employment don’t mix, but I couldn’t stop myself.

I began to avoid friends at lunchtime so I could read Thoreau and Kafka.

I would return to the office dizzied and confused, asking, “What is it ex actly we are doing here?”

One day the boss called me in to his office. He said, “Listen, I like you, and it hurts me to say this, but your thinking has become a real problem. If you don’t stop thinking on the job, you’ll have to find employment elsewhere.”

This gave me a lot to think about.

I came home early after my conversation with the boss. “Honey,” I confessed, “I’ve been thinking …”

“I know you’ve been thinking,” she said, “and I want a divorce!”

“But honey, surely it’s not that serious.”

“It is serious,” she said, lower lip aquiver. “You think as much as college professors, and college professors don’t make any money, so if you keep on thinking, we won’t have any money!”

“That’s a faulty syllogism,” I said impatiently. She exploded in tears of rage and frustration, but I was in no mood to deal with the emotional drama. “I’m going to the library,” I snarled as I s tomped out the door.

I headed for the library, in the mood for some Nietzsche.

I roared into the parking lot with NPR on the radio and ran up to the big glass doors…

They didn’t open. The library was closed.

To this day, I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that night.

As I sank to the ground, clawing at the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra, a poster caught my eye. “Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life?” it asked.

You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard Thinker’s Anonymous poster.

Which is why I am what I am today: a Recovering Thinker.

I never miss a TA meeting. At each meeting we watch a non-educational video; last week it was “Porky’s.”

Then we share experiences about how we avoided thinking since the last meeting.

I still have my job, and things are a lot better at home.

Life just seemed….; easier, somehow, as soon as I stopped thinking.

I believe the road to recovery is nearly complete for me.

Today, I registered to vote as a Democrat!

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 08:24 PM | Link to this

Susan,

You’re welcome, sorry about the anniversary of your Mom’s death. Those things never really leave us. If you value your sanity I wouldn’t read much of this blog on that or surrounding days with any level of seriousness.

By Objective Observer

March 16, 2006 08:37 PM | Link to this

SemperFi: I needed that….that was sooooo funny!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 16, 2006 08:37 PM | Link to this

RW: I’ve been meanin to get by there but these pinkos have been keeping me rather busy. I wouldn’t want to disappoint them with my absence.

By Bill

March 16, 2006 08:41 PM | Link to this

Semper Foney: What the hell would a chickenhawk goon like you know about war?? Seems to me somebody recently offered you a gift of $1000.00 to produce a form DD-214. You’re just another constant never-served war hero on this blog. Total, complete, absolute B.S. An embarrassment to humanity & anyone who ever wore a uniform of any type. You people are sooo obvious! Go away.

By Steve

March 16, 2006 08:44 PM | Link to this

The ORIGINAL “Shock & Awe” was a bad joke. Where are thy memories?

By Semper FI

March 16, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this

Yep, Bill, just another stupid liberal that knows a lot of things which aren’t true.

Actually it was a blogger named Scott and I am trying to get his address and/or email, If you have it or want to share yours with the same bet, I’ll be more than glad to take your money.

By Souldrift

March 16, 2006 08:57 PM | Link to this

Steve, this one was only against “a suspected insurgent operating area.” At least they’re not saying they’re positive, since with our track record, we might not find any insurgents there at all!

Blog and Tan

By Napo D

March 16, 2006 09:01 PM | Link to this

Semper, my lips hurt real bad. Will you bring me my chapstick?

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 09:02 PM | Link to this

LS&L,

It looks like blogspot has pulled one of their vanishing acts anyway.

By Napo D

March 16, 2006 09:02 PM | Link to this

We need a President with skills. Nunchauk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer hacking skills…. IDIOT!

By DavidU

March 16, 2006 09:13 PM | Link to this

RW - Google has been pimpin Blogger too much and they had a huge surge in new blog sign ups and their servers are having trouble catching up. Hopefully they will get it fixed soon. Maybe they are too busy fighting the gov’t to realize their service for the past month has sucked.

By DavidU

March 16, 2006 09:15 PM | Link to this

Napo D - I nominate Chuck Norris

By Napo D

March 16, 2006 09:16 PM | Link to this

The REPUBLICANS in the House of Representatives just defeated an amendment by Democrat Martin Sabo of Minnesota that would have provided $1.25 billion in desperately needed funding for port security and disaster preparedness. The amendment included:

– $300 million to enable U.S. customs agents to inspect high-risk containers at all 140 overseas ports that ship directly to the United States. Current funding only allows U.S. customs agents to operate at 43 of these ports.

– $400 million to place radiation monitors at all U.S. ports of entry. Currently, less than half of U.S. ports have radiation monitors.

– $300 million to provide backup emergency communications equipment for the Gulf Coast.

Meanwhile, the Bush budget – which most of the members who voted against this bill will likely support – contains an increase of $1.7 billion for missile defense, a program that doesn’t even work.

By Halle

March 16, 2006 09:20 PM | Link to this

FEEL SAFER NOW?

The House Republicans defeated an amendment proposed by Democrat Martin Sabo of Minnesota that would have provided $1.25 billion in desperately needed funding for port security and disaster preparedness. The Sabo amendment included:

– $300 million to enable U.S. customs agents to inspect high-risk containers at all 140 overseas ports that ship directly to the United States. Current funding only allows U.S. customs agents to operate at 43 of these ports.

– $400 million to place radiation monitors at all U.S. ports of entry. Currently, less than half of U.S. ports have radiation monitors.

– $300 million to provide backup emergency communications equipment for the Gulf Coast.

Meanwhile, the Bush budget – which most of the members who voted against this bill will likely support – contains an increase of $1.7 billion for missile defense, a program that doesn’t even work.

By JJG

March 16, 2006 09:23 PM | Link to this

SF, You really are a mystery. Sometimes you say the stupidest things possible and demonstrate an amazing lack of critcal analysis skills. And yet, at other times you’re extremely lucid and spot on, in spite of yourself. Here are examples of both: we will have better chance of winning this one, if liberals would quit supporting the enemy. A childish and myopic argument, this statement demonstrates you have learned precious little since 1968. And that same old lie didn’t even have any relevance then. This type of neofascist garbage must make Bin Laden laugh with glee, knowing that the intransigence and intolerance he so loves to see here is alive and well. (you do remember him, don’t you?)
And then this: Democrats… getting back the power they had for 40 years. Absofreakinglutely right. The Dem “leaders” are equally as gutless and corrupt as their counterparts in the GOP. They’ve had chance after chance after chance to demonstrate some backbone and at least try to stop these screw ups in power and have done virtually nothing. They meekly go right along and will say anything, if it’s politically expedient. Shameful

By Buy Danish

March 16, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this

By the way, I thought the situation in Iraq was ‘peachy’, guess that was just political spin

DavidU,

I posted this over at the last bad cartoon, but since you double posted, I’ll double respond:

DavidU,

Come on. Nobody ever said it was “peachy”. It’s going to be a long, hard slog - remember?

By finch

March 16, 2006 09:53 PM | Link to this

JJG,

A hat tip to you. For some reason, various folks here think that because I believe President Bush is a little dim, and the Iraq move was, shall we say, imprudent, I must be some kind of tree-hugging, Hillary-loving, commie fifth columnist. Which I’m not.

Sound familiar?

By Buy Danish

March 16, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

JJG,

Did anyone ever teach you about a writing device called a “paragraph”? Your stream-of-consciousness rants are incredibly tedious.

Earlier tonight your directed this rant to me:

*your gutless commander-in-chump get thousands of people killed NEEDLESSLY because he doesn’t know much about military strategy either. He wouldn’t know real intelligence, if it hit him in the face with a mortar.

Here’s my response:

Why are you so unglued, dude? The “needlessly” part is your opinion, and that “intelligence” was inherited from the Clinton Administration. BTW, He didn’t serve either.

I wrote that before I read your recent paragraph-free tirade. I was right then and I’m right now.

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 09:57 PM | Link to this

finch,

None of us said you loved Hillary.

By Buy Danish

March 16, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this

finch,

You’re kidding me! You’re praising LLG? I guess I’m going to have to retract my “finch is reasonable for a liberal” comments!

Ordinarily there would be SOME merit to your general argument, but I wouldn’t choose LLG as “Eureka!” man. Further, you have been siding with some very questionable people lately, while totally laying into LS&L.

Objectively, I’ve got to say that LS&L is WAY more reasonable than LLG, even on a bad day.

By DavidU

March 16, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this

BD - But I’ve been hearing that we are pulling out our soldiers at the end of the year or at least start to. That reports of violence in Iraq are exaggerated by the Liberal Media and that they were just minor secular fighting. Soooo….that’s why now we are about to put the fear of God into the city of Samarra with this show of force, hmmmm I’m confused. The media says things are not fine in Iraq, and the administration says they are and the media is making stuff up; then a week later they show that things are not alright by increasing military operations, so basically just lies directed at American citizens.

Regarding the double post, once I hit post I noticed the new cartoon so did not wan to leave it behind on a dead thread.

By finch

March 16, 2006 10:03 PM | Link to this

RW,

Figures I’m the last to figure out that Bloggers on the fritz. dang.

“My Name Is Earl” was pretty good tonight. I liked the car. But last week, with the guys trapped in the abandoned water-tower was better.

And aint Joy cute when she’s drunk?

By Semper FI

March 16, 2006 10:08 PM | Link to this

JJG, Maybe Bui Tin, a former VC colonel, in an interview states more accurately how we lost Nam and how we could lose IRAQ.

Q: Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi’s victory? A: It was essential to our strategy. Support of the war from our rear was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us.

Q: Did the Politburo pay attention to these visits? A: Keenly.

Q: Why? A: Those people represented the conscience of America. The conscience of America was part of its war-making capability, and we were turning that power in our favor. America lost because of its democracy; through dissent and protest it lost the ability to mobilize a will to win.

By finch

March 16, 2006 10:16 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I don’t agree with everything LLG says. Heck, I don’t agree with everything anybody says. Sometimes I don’t agree with myself. But this?

“The Dem “leaders” are equally as gutless and corrupt as their counterparts in the GOP. “

Yeah. I can agree with that.

By Buy Danish

March 16, 2006 10:19 PM | Link to this

David U,

No need to apologize for the double post. Happens to me all the time. Is there some sort of bell that goes off when a new cartoon appears that I’m not hearing?

You are relying entirely too much on the MSM to get the “truth”! I don’t know where you got the idea that everything was “fine” - show me any war (other than the invasion of Grenada which was over in what - 3 days?) where ANYTHING is fine.

As for Operation Swarming, these things take planning and secrecy and intelligence and coordination and a bit of luck. They do not commence based on poll numbers - at least not in this administration.

You may disagree with the war, but this President acts out of conviction and principles, and he relies on his field commanders to make military decisions. No wag the dog with W, not when it comes to his duties as Commander in Chief.

BTW, It appears that there were no NY Times reporters lurking around because the SECRECY part of the mission succeeded.

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 10:20 PM | Link to this

finch,

If you get to the comments section of the thread we were using it’s working and taking comments it just doesn’t update onto the main page. Double D headed out so the party is winding down anyway.

By Buy Danish

March 16, 2006 10:25 PM | Link to this

finch,

Sure, even raving mad people are right sometimes, just like clocks.

You have developed this odd habit of praising the unglued lately. Is it that difficult to find a kindred spirit?

By getalife

March 16, 2006 10:27 PM | Link to this

Wow, what a party.

Why is she calling me rw2?

By finch

March 16, 2006 10:36 PM | Link to this

RW,

Double D is a hottie! She has great taste in [fringe movies.]http://posterwire.com/wp-content/images/the_warriors.jpg)

And I like your dogs, too.

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 10:38 PM | Link to this

getalife,

When she responds to multiple posts from one person she will say 2 and 3 etc. She responded to me as rw and then you as rw and rw2 because she was responding to two posts from you. I think it’s because you addressed the Cox & Forkum link to me and she got confused. You know how easy it is for liberals to get confused. ;-)

By Buy Danish

March 16, 2006 10:39 PM | Link to this

RW,

Okay, as a follow up to that terrible civil war in the anti-war movement, this is an ad, but it makes me feel reassuringly less like someone who is talking to a potted plant

By SS&S

March 16, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish - Finch always reminds me of the frail little fella sitting on the sofa with two fat aunts. Wiggling and squirming, trying to maneuver himself out of an uncomfortable spot.

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 10:45 PM | Link to this

finch,

Careful how you talk about my girlfriend.

Salem and Bronte sadly aren’t mine, I don’t really think they would care much the weather here anyway.

By getalife

March 16, 2006 10:51 PM | Link to this

I had better tell her I am a vicious lib like crallspace

By Buy Danish

March 16, 2006 10:51 PM | Link to this

SS&S,

finch does seem to get himself into uncomfortable spots with remarkable freqency!

Time for bed…

By Semper FI

March 16, 2006 10:52 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, He reminds of Kerry, he’s for or agaisnt everything, depending on what group he is with at the time.
Difference is, Kerry probably knows what the real ACLU’s goal is.

By finch

March 16, 2006 10:53 PM | Link to this

SS&S,

Not even close.

BD,

I’d rather not be stereotyped. For example, there’s your “all opponents of the Iraq war are commie tools” link. What garbage.

That ain’t me, babe.

Are you a “tool of the oil-igarchs and the racist military-industrial complex”?

I bet you don’t like stereotypes, either.

By JJG

March 16, 2006 10:55 PM | Link to this

Finch, Most on the far right think that if you don’t march lock-step with this administration, you’re a traitor. Sad and pathetic, but true. Their brand of patriotism allows no room for dissent or moderation. Reasonableness is not, and has never been, one of their hallmark traits. Look at some of their mentors - Limbaugh, Boortz, O’Reilly, Hannity, Robertson and Barr - all indignant, self-righteous and angry spewers of hateful opinions and intolerance and utterly lacking in diplomacy and tact. (And, yes, the far left has it’s equivalents). And BD, my prose may be tedious to you, but apparently you read it anyway. Good for you. You see, to me at least, substance is more important than style. And yes, you’re right that my choice of the word “needlessly” is just an opinion. As is 99% of the stuff here, including your hilarious claim that invading Iran is a viable option. (Unless you and a whole boatload of your buddies go down to the recruiter’s office!) So, again, think before you speak, when you say I was right then and I’m right now. Peace out.

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 10:57 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

The one thing that most people that just stop by here because it’s a cartoon blog don’t understand is that when the kids allow the debate to go on is how passionate both sides are. They probably think both sides feel like they are talking to potted plants, but we aren’t typical of the masses on either side. I know most people that lean right aren’t going to go to the mat to defend the beliefs that I will and I suspect most on the left realize the same thing.

The people that will battle here on both sides of the political spectrum will steadfastly defend and try to outmaneuver the other side. Casual readers might think it’s a battle royale without realizing we LIKE this stuff. That’s why name protection is so badly needed here. We used to have some great debates here and at the end of the day it might seem like some of us hated each other when exactly the opposite was true.

By Semper FI

March 16, 2006 11:02 PM | Link to this

Anyone may feel free to sterotype me as anti-liberal. What ever a liberal is for, I am against. When it comes to basics, like clean air, water,etc, of course ,I am for that but against their wacko methods and standards.

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 11:03 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I already told her you were a vicious lib. (I did tell her it was an inside joke) I’m not sure she was ready to blog host a gunfight. Why do you guys always come up with names like crawlspace anyway? Kinda creepy if you ask me.

By Objective Observer

March 16, 2006 11:03 PM | Link to this

My only comment of the day, and it is someone else’s……..

People today are still living off the table scraps of the sixties. They are still being passed around - the music and the ideas. By: Bob Dylan

Music’s good!!! Love it R.W., I insist!!!

Nite……..

By DavidU

March 16, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

SemperFi - From now on you will be labeled and stereotyped as the clean air and water guy. :)

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 11:14 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

As aggravating as Dylan is I used your quote and my blog is now running at the speed of Jerry Garcia. I don’t blame you though…noooo..sleep well while I spend the night trying to fix this mess!!

By DavidU

March 16, 2006 11:17 PM | Link to this

RW- I think people come to the blog to read and they expect everyone to be holding hands and singing “Kumbaya”. And when they realize that people have different political opinions they expect to stay for 10 minutes say their reason why Bush sucks or is Great and then the ‘other’ side will suddenly throught their innovative and persuasive argument drop all their political believes right then and there. Politics and Religion are things people do not budge on. Oh and College Football in the south.

By getalife

March 16, 2006 11:19 PM | Link to this

I often dream that my teeth are falling out. They get loose, misplaced, they move around and this all feels very real. I pull them out and look at them, then lick the gaps. It feels very real.

Creepy, what do you mean?

Its “crallspace” and he gets paid to watch mountains. Enviromentalist?

Nite OO.

By Semper FI

March 16, 2006 11:21 PM | Link to this

DavidU. Thanks. If I had my choice, I prefer ANTI-LIBERAL or Proud Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

You ever read any Ben Stein? I like his thinking.

OOPS, got to hit the rack. People on welfare, WIC, EBT and section 8(generally known as democrats) are depending on me going to work tomorrow.

By whynot

March 16, 2006 11:26 PM | Link to this

RW, stop saying Jerry Garcia its not cool yo.

-peace in the middle east

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 11:26 PM | Link to this

getalife,

That’s why I love you and would always call for your help any time I had more than a 5-1 ratio hanging around.

Nobody but you could quote that and then defend the spelling of crawlspace.

By George

March 16, 2006 11:29 PM | Link to this

Lets hear it for those thrify Republicans!!!!!

[Welcome to Spend City

By Dana Milbank Friday, March 17, 2006; Page A02

There is no specific mention of a “Vote-a-Rama” in the Constitution, which is probably because the Framers could not have imagined what happened in the Senate yesterday: The chamber’s 100 members gathered and, in a frenzy of legislative activity, did their darnedest to empty the Treasury.

It was the political equivalent of going on a shopping spree the same day you get a credit-line increase on your over-the-limit card. In the morning, the senators increased the federal debt limit by $800 billion, to $9 trillion — that’s with a T. In the afternoon came the Vote-a-Rama, a carnival in which the lawmakers took turns pitching scores of amendments to the 2007 budget measure, most calling for more money for favorite programs.

“The Republican Party is now principally moderate, if not liberal!” exulted Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), after the Senate — including a majority of Republicans — approved his budget-busting amendment to spend an extra $7 billion on domestic programs.

Just a week ago, GOP leaders gathered in Memphis and proclaimed the party’s commitment to fiscal restraint; yesterday, the restraints came off. “All the talk in Memphis doesn’t comport with reality,” said Specter, savoring his victory in a leather armchair in the Senate press gallery. “I don’t have any apologies to make for this $7 billion. I’m still not satisfied.”](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/16/AR2006031602019.html)

By whynot

March 16, 2006 11:29 PM | Link to this

Semper Fi,

“God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in their shoes then you really might know what its like to live the blues” -Everlast

By whynot

March 16, 2006 11:32 PM | Link to this

David U, some people only stay 10 minutes because believe it or not they might actually have a lot better stuff to do then stay on Mike Lukovichs Blog all day.

By getalife

March 16, 2006 11:34 PM | Link to this

RW,

How about 3-1 next time.

Goodnight, that party wore me out but was fun.

By DavidU

March 16, 2006 11:36 PM | Link to this

SemperFi- Don’t let them down now. Drive safely tomorrow.

By RW-(the original)

March 16, 2006 11:36 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Deal. Goodnight.

By whynot

March 16, 2006 11:36 PM | Link to this

George, get this the Iraq war which has so far cost us god knows how many hundred billions of dollars but before the war began the repubs estimated the cost of the war at bieng 1-2 billion dollars guess they didnt count on buying armor for the troops

By Brent

March 16, 2006 11:37 PM | Link to this

This SEMPER FI clown. And SUCK, and DANISH. All are living proof that many Americans engage in sex with barnyard animals, plus some states require no formal education whatever. No wonder we don’t manufacture anything worthwhile - or even do much of anything worthwhile. Pitiful human beings are these. Little angry, jealous hate mongers.

By Semper FI

March 16, 2006 11:39 PM | Link to this

whynot, God did not forbid it. Why would you assume I did not. Actually, their lifestyle would have been a step up for me in my childhood. Differnce was my parents would probably have let us starve before taking a handout. Not that it is wrong when it is needed, but it certainly should not be a lifestyle.

By whynot

March 16, 2006 11:42 PM | Link to this

Objective obserder

Bob Dylan changes his opinion and his religion about every 5 minutes it really depends if hes high or not after the hippie era passed you really cant believe much of what hes said Im sad to say or really understand it Love his music but these days I just feel hes just trying to fix nonexistant problems. man acid messes you up I know that sounds really harsh on Dylan but what can I say.

RW, dont you be saying Dylan either its still not cool go get some friends now

By whynot

March 16, 2006 11:46 PM | Link to this

Semper Fi yeah living on the street would be a real step up from having a home. hey everyone goes through s** man you just gotta keep rolling and yes that is a pun.

Brent, I dont know about Danish but I know theres a chance the other 2 are into cows

By DavidU

March 16, 2006 11:49 PM | Link to this

whynot- I’m not saying to stay all day, but don’t expect a 5 minute speech to change a persons beliefs. And if they are so interested in changing the way people think, then come back and have a conversation. Most just come in one day say their little speech, then say everyone here is crazy and are never heard from again.

By George

March 16, 2006 11:53 PM | Link to this

whynot,

As I recall the Repubs gave Kerry grief in the last election because he said that the Iraq war was going to cost $200 billion.

With the new appropriation, it will be now be $400 billion.

Hey, the repubs will tell you anything at anytime to get what they want whether it has any basis in fact or not.

A trillion here, a trillion there - after a while it adds up to real money (that your grandkids will have to pay for)

By DavidU

March 17, 2006 12:00 AM | Link to this

George and Whynot - But remember they are the party that holds the patent on fiscal responsibility…LOL. Bush has not seen a spending bill he did not like and thus sign. You would think with control of every branch of gov’t they would show all Dem how it’s really done at least on some level. But I guess that’s not really on the agenda for them.

By George

March 17, 2006 12:26 AM | Link to this

So we have to get the Democrats back in power to get spending under control? What is wrong with this picture!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 04:55 AM | Link to this

Newspapers have been losing readers and advertisers in recent years and too many have folded. As recently as 1980, there were 1,745 daily newspapers in the United States. By 2002, there were 1,457, a 17 percent drop, according to PIJ. The big three TV networks have been losing market share and are mostly targeting younger audiences favored by advertisers.

While many explanations — some of them partially valid — have been offered for the drop in journalism consumers, the most important one is ignored. PIJ’s survey concludes the public believes most of the news they get is “slanted” with 72 percent saying journalists favor one side or the other. “Republicans and conservatives are even more prone to feel this way than Democrats,” the survey says.

The New York Times, the so-called “paper of record,” which shapes much of what appears on broadcast television, had a pathetic 38 percent favorability rating among the public (the Times criticizes President Bush for having approval numbers just slightly under its own). Forty-seven percent believe press criticism of the military weakens the country. That figure is the highest in 20 years. A solid majority (60 percent) believes the press should watch over politicians, but only 43 percent find journalists “moral.”

By Morgan

March 17, 2006 04:58 AM | Link to this

Imagine how the conservatives would blame John Kerry for ruining their perfectly good QUAGMIRE. (They have no one to blame but themselves. The changing justification is fascinating, I hope I live to see how it ends.)

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 05:02 AM | Link to this

The irony is pretty rich: Mr. Schumer was positioning himself grandly on identity theft with a bill to combat that crime, accompanied by several very public lashings of corporations accused of mishandling consumer information. “How is it that the CEO of the company didn’t know that [the data] had been stolen until a couple of months later?” The Schumer-Nelson comprehensive identity-theft bill, the senator promised, would “implement safeguards to prevent fraudulent access by unauthorized parties.”

Just a few months later, Democratic campaign committee staffers obtained Mr. Steele’s credit report under fraudulent pretenses. Mr. Steele — a Republican whom Democrats rightly consider a formidable opponent — was targeted for his supposedly uneven financial history by the deputy research director of the campaign committee. The deputy and her supervisor, the head of research, were placed on paid leave and later fired. Mr. Schumer never volunteered to answer the questions he fired at executives in March: How did this happen, and why didn’t you stop it?

By Like It Really Is

March 17, 2006 05:53 AM | Link to this

Good toon ML, it says what most people don’t want to have to admit. For whatever reasons, half of America or better thinks that the President engages in “pre-emptive” war in order to improve his poll numbers. That is simply not a trait of an effective leader.

We all hope that Operation Swarmer helps to give the Iraqis yet more time to get their act together and that the real reason for the op is not to prop up the President’s appalingly low poll numbers. The timing is certainly suspicious at the very least to any reasonable individual, though.

Samarra continues to be a hotbed in spite of what, 3 recent major military offensives? I look forward to learning the objective of this mission, and if that objective was actually achieved. Nobody knows right now, so judgement should be suspended for the moment. There will be no more free rides for this President, however. The public will rightly demand an accounting; I hope the justification and performance is there.

The notion that the President did not know anything about Swarmer (as is being claimed to insulate him from claims of poll chasing) and that he leaves major military operations solely in the hands of miltary commanders, should certainly be comforting to no one. Are we being told that the military is running the country now and not our elected representatives?

Our President doesn’t know that major military ops are occuring, he doesn’t know that the ports deal was being made; Is the President running the country or is that what only his subordinates and military advisors do?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 06:03 AM | Link to this

Only a liberal would fight for a pedophile’s right to hang out in a school playground:

KEEPING SEX OFFENDERS AWAY FROM … SCHOOLS / PLAYGROUNDS / BUS STOPS / CHURCHES — IS IT AS PRACTICAL AS IT SOUNDS? Critics say law would cut off criminals from jobs, drive them underground

I mean, it’s like, what’s up? Good morning everybody? Is this for real?

If you don’t want to get “cut off from your job” or “driven underground,” whatever the hell that means, how about if you don’t molest children?

How many of you pinkos are blinking right now, having read what I typed? Is this an option for you, leaving children alone? Have you POS ever even considered it?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 06:31 AM | Link to this

Like It Really Is: We lost Vietnam, for one reason, because the “civilians” would not let the commanders on the ground win it (needing permission to bomb a target.) That is not the marching orders in Iraq. The commanders have objectives given to them by the White House, it is up to them how they go about meeting them.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 06:42 AM | Link to this

Feingold Says Critics Misjudge Reaction to Push for Censure

By Staff Reporter of the Sun March 17, 2006

“I think the press decided immediately that this was a bad thing for Democrats and a good thing for conservatives,” Mr. Feingold, a Democrat of Wisconsin, said at a press conference in the Capitol. “The facts don’t bear it out. “You don’t have the polls to prove it.”

So far, the censure motion has been publicly endorsed only by Senators Harkin of Iowa and Boxer of California, both Democrats.’Mr. Feingold acknowledged that his effort has gotten a chilly response from many of his colleagues.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 07:16 AM | Link to this

Murray turns this on its head, noting that our Bureaucracy of Compassion has become a Ministry of Misery. He defines happiness not as comfortable lucre, but as “lasting and justified satisfaction with one’s life as a whole.” You can’t experience happiness, he argues, if you don’t have deep and affectionate relations with others, activities that give your life meaning and enough power over your fate to enable you to say at the end of your days, “I did well.”

The welfare system actively prevents our pursuit of happiness. It discourages enterprise, innovation, risk, work, marriage, and personal responsibility for procuring medical care, caring for loved ones and saving for the future. It outsources compassion and criminalizes common sense.

By Charles

March 17, 2006 07:54 AM | Link to this

Wrong bracket chart ML …. that’s the old one from the Clinton Administration on which supporter/advisor was either going to jail, being indicted or being taken to a park to be shot.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

If Fox News is “conservative” what are they doing headlining this?:

Michael Jackson’s Neverland Ranch in Santa Ynez, Calif. Jacko closes longtime Calif. compound Pop star lays off over 60 employees with no benefits; source says Jackson won’t return to America

Are they trying to be the POS tracking and whereabouts network?

By Jewish and Proud of It

March 17, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

How many of you pinkos are blinking right now, having read what I typed? Is this an option for you, leaving children alone? Have you POS ever even considered it

That’s rich! How many of your Catholic priests are pinko’s?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

Hey Jewish: How many Catholic priests do you see in this list? You reckon that Catholic priests get more publicity than your average pervert does because you stupid POS liberals hate religion? Or are you one of those freaks that believes everything the AJC tells you?

By Brian Curtis

March 17, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

Suck: “We” didn’t lose Vietnam; the government did.

The people of America won that conflict, by forcing the military and government to withdraw. It was a proud accomplishment and a huge step forward for our society, and I admire everyone who had the guts to protest and put a stop to that insanity.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

finch,

Let’s review this “Sterotyping” more time -

I have never said that YOU were a marxist/communist/america-hater, and I know that you think that Cindy Sheehan is an embarrassment.

After you posted a “slanderous” op-ed that stated that Republicans don’t care about our soldiers (gosh, would that be “stereotyping”?) I pointed out the FACT that the anti-war movement is LED by Marxist America-haters, whose role-models led millions upon millions to their graves.

I said that the PHONY anti-war movement doesn’t give a damn about a single solitary soldier. You said that that statement was “slanderous”, and I directed you to David Horowitz, an “insider” if there ever was one, and someone you agree is “brilliant”.

Well lo and behold, RW finds this delightful story which describes “divisions” in “the movement”. The bottom line? One group is accusing the other group of consorting with Communists, while the accused group retorts that their accusers are racists.

In announcing that it would no longer coordinate activities with International ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism), UFPJ criticized ANSWER’s links to the Workers World Party (WWP), a group that allegedly had supported atrocities committed by Communist regimes around the world.

Eureka! This is not a wild accusation made by a McCarthyite wing nut, it reveals a very important truth about “the movement” of which many people are naively unaware - particularly our young and impressionable college students.

“Peace” sounds so much nicer than “War”, doesn’t it?

By Jewish and Proud of It

March 17, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

You reckon that Catholic priests get more publicity than your average pervert does because you stupid POS liberals hate religion?

I don’t hate religion, I’m a very devout Jewish man.

By George

March 17, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

[PEGGY NOONAN

Hey, Big Spender Should we have known that President Bush would bust the budget?](http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/)

Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:01 a.m. EST

This week’s column is a question, a brief one addressed with honest curiosity to Republicans. It is: When George W. Bush first came on the scene in 2000, did you understand him to be a liberal in terms of spending?

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this

Brent,

You need to get together with the rest of the NIVS and decide how you want to characterize the opposition.

Am I a white-trash yahoo or a croissant-and-tea Republican qui parle Francais?

There seems to be division amongst your ranks. Choose or lose.

By Jewish and Proud of It

March 17, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this

Am I a white-trash yahoo or a croissant-and-tea Republican qui parle Francais?

I’m going with the tea-slurping Republican because you DO seem to be quite the arrogant b***.

By traitor

March 17, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this

I don’t support the troops. I don’t especially want them getting killed, but if they’re over in some foreign country shooting citizens there and get themselves killed then too bad.

If we stopped trying to run the world they’d stop trying to blow us up.

A lot of you here are the very people who have brought this on us.

Thanks a lot.

By finch

March 17, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

The phonies in what passes for organized anti-war groups in the US are just that. It’s not surprising that the 10s of millions of Americans who think the Iraq invasion was a blunder of monumental proportion are avoiding them like lepers.

You mischaracterize Richard Cohen’s argument, and you know it. He said that if the clueless supporters of the reckless “nation huilding” exercise that is the Iraq war really cared about the troops, they wouldn’t keep pushing a policy that is fundamentally, fatally (as in dead Americans) flawed. It’s disrespectful of our troops, who don’t deserve to die for such a futile cause.

And he’s right.

A far stronger argument could have been made in 2003, as it’s being made today, for a pre-emptive strike against Iran. But Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, who had been pushing for an Iraq attack since 1998 (see PNAC) had other plans.

The US hasn’t been able to secure Iraq. What are the prospects in Iran, which has 3 times the people, a far better Army than Iraq had, and no internal ethnic strife? I fear the answer.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

JAPOI,

Sorry, you have to choose - either I slurp or I don’t. If I slurp, I fall into the yahoo catergory.

BTW, I replied very nicely to something you posted the other day about a USA Today story, so I don’t know what you’re so Pi##ed about.

By Jewish and Proud of It

March 17, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

I’m sorry BD, I’m not p-i-s-s-e-d, really, I’m just trying to “get your goat” (I’ve learned a lot of colorful phrases while here in America, but that’s the funniest so far)!

By Dusty

March 17, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

What is going on? Did Jewish get up on the wrong side of the bed? Did the jackers use his name? Does he not speak French? He has a “crush” on your imaginative persona? I’m puzzled.

Happy St. Patrick’s Day on this green and golden morning.

By Midori

March 17, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

How many of you pinkos are blinking right now, having read what I typed?

thing is, whenever I see your user ID, my mind goes blank.

you post too much nonsense and bullsh*t, and I’ve stopped trying to wade through all that crap.

You’re a legend in your own mind.

By N-GA

March 17, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

Leaving for Utah to go skiing, but I thought I would leave you with this quote from a self-professed neo-conservative:

“One prominent neoconservative, Francis F*******, asserts in a new book that the administration embraced democracy as a cornerstone of its policy only after the failure to find unconventional weapons in Iraq. The issue was seized upon to justify the war in retrospect, and then expanded for other countries, he says.

Mr. F*******, who opposed the war in Iraq, said in an interview that it was naïve and contrary to the tenets of conservatism for the United States to think that it could act as midwife or cheerleader for democracy in societies it knows little about.

Indeed, as he points out, in the 2000 election campaign, both Mr. Bush and Ms. Rice, then his foreign policy adviser, criticized the Clinton administration’s interventions to promote democracy in Somalia, Haiti and the Balkans as misplaced idealism.

“It’s this weird situation, where you have a really conservative Republican president using all this Clintonesque rhetoric about rights and ideals,” Mr. F******* said.”

Another example of this administration’s hypocrisy.

SUPPORT THE TROOPS - IMPEACH BUSH!!!!!

By Dusty

March 17, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

Well,

I think Jewish just “fell off the turnip truck”. That’s another colorful expression.

By Jewish and Proud of It

March 17, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

Oh, BTW everyone, Erin Go Bragh! (I think that’s how you spell it)

By Jewish and Proud of It

March 17, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

Thanks Dusty, what does it mean? I’ve heard of turnips before but have never eaten them. Are they good? I’ll ask my host “mom” after school what the expression means and I’ll also ask if we can have turnips at dinner, see what I’m missing.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Top of the morning to you - It’s a fine day for you to wear that new outfit of yours!

A fine day to celebrate a Saint!

Oh Oh. Maybe I shouldn’t have mentioned that. Next year it may just be called “Mr. Patrick’s Day”…

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

finch,

If you are correct and 10s of millions of Americans who think the Iraq invasion was a blunder of monumental proportion are avoiding (the anti-war movement)like lepers, then you need to make a call to the MSM and break the news to them.

They covered Cindy Sheehans’ every move for weeks and months, conferring moral authority on her because her son died in action. Is the MSM run by agents of A.N.S.W.E.R. and moveon.org, or do they just respond well to their press releases?

As for Cohen’s argument, his “point” was that Republicans are only distressed by falling poll numbers.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

You’re a day late and a dollar short. finch was on this, like days ago.

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

Bush declared at West Point, “America has no empire to extend or utopia to establish. We wish for others only what we wish for ourselves — safety from violence, the rewards of liberty, and the hope for a better life.”

The new policy was fully delineated in a National Security Council text entitled the National Security Strategy of the United States issued on September 17, 2002 [1].

Encouraging stronger and more direct policies against terrorism from other nations.

It should be noted that the latter two principles have been the official policy of the United States enumerated in all National Security Strategies issued since the end of the Cold War during the Presidency of George H.W. Bush.

Have fun skiing N-GA.

By Midori

March 17, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

I ask you - have we had a more classy president?

By classy

March 17, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this

this is what we need, airhead.

By Dusty

March 17, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

Jewish,

If your host “mom” happens to be from that wild uncivilized part of the country north of the Mason Dixon line, she may not know about “falling off the turnip truck”.

Check with Google. They are so universal.

You will like turnips. Also try rutabagas.

By Courtney La Croix

March 17, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish-The high tech world has bypassed N-GA. He always comes back with stories from a few days earlier to present them as brand new. Maybe he’s a complete idiot like Midori or maybe he’s just slow.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

Courtney,

What took you so long? I’ve been waiting for you to show up!

By Courtney La Croix

March 17, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish-I was laughing so hard when I read that 9:39 was blaming someone else for their empty headedness that I just had to join in the fun. I can’t wait for the onslaught of pictures from her family photo album.

By Dusty

March 17, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

N-GA is going to ski in Utah? I guess Vice Pres. Cheney invited him. Nawwww…I guess not.

I’m off to celebrate Mr. Patrick’s Day. Maybe with a turnip sandwich while I’m wearing the green.

Keep the leprechauns under control, Danish.

By Midori

March 17, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

It’s Saint Patrick’s Day.

Look for George to have another “accident” involving a pretzel tonight.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

I’ll do my best. Most of them seem to be sleeping in this morning. Enjoy!

Courtney,

It may finally get someone’s attention over at you know who’s corporate headquarters. We’re just following directions…

Anyway, I bet I was laughing even harder at your post than you were at 9:39’s. All in all, another jolly day!

By Ron Jeremy

March 17, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

You shouldn’t joke about someone choking.

By getalife

March 17, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

We are hungover from the party at RW’s last night .

Oh my head, nevermind.

Lets get this party started, its St. Patrick’s Day.

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

getalife,

If you think you are hungover from my party, think about what it would be like to be this guy.

I hope they let him take a few to jail.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

Ron,

That’s Midori demonstrating how she was awarded a good conduct medal.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Did I read that name on the tongue correctly - Michael Winterbottom?

By Midori

March 17, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

got to admire the hard core morons. takes a special person to be so bullheaded. and stupid. and “empty headed”.

By Truthman

March 17, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

All I can tell is that progressives are much better than neo-cons with grammer, punctuation, sentence construction, subject-verb agreement and spelling. I guess that’s because we usually sit in the front of the class and listened, toke notes and interacted with others instead of dreaming up ways to screw people.

P.S. The Sermon on the Mount proves Jesus was a liberal and progressive. That can’t be argued!!

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You better get a cup of coffee because Rush is about to demonstrate how Feingold mischaracterized, er “lied”, about what Rush has said about wiretapping.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

Midori-san,

Well Winston Churchill wasn’t always popular either. Does that make him less heroic or the citizens more fickle?

By getalife

March 17, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

RW,

D’oh! He admitted he knew it was fake.

BD,

Yes, it is a true story of sex drugs and Rock & Roll.

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Why are you so obsessed with polls. Maybe Ron can weigh in.

Courtney La Croix,

There is an island princess that hangs out here.

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Truthman,

I’m not surprised that you toke a lot of notes.

By ART

March 17, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Rush my a-ss. If you stuck a pin in him and released all the hot air and BS he’d launch like the space shuttle and we’d have the first doctor shopping, pill popper to ever land on the moon. If Rush says it you know it’s crap.

By Midori

March 17, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

That’s Midori demonstrating how she was awarded a good conduct medal.

Better than the way you earned yours: by sitting behind your computer screen leading your fellow keyboard commandos into self-righteous lunacy.

What does your uniform look like?

One can only guess.

By getalife

March 17, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

BD,

Sorry, I do not listen to or pay attention to Rush, Ann, etc…

If I want to listen to the ramblings of a drug induced maniac, I will read my posts.

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

gal, Midori: Hello. Congratulations Everyone! We are all now $30,000 in debt and rising. Would any of the knuckleheads who support these crooks like to pick up my share of the National Debt? I really don’t want it. To paraphrase Everett Dircksen: “A Trillion here and a Trillion there, pretty soon you’re talking about a lot of money”. Should we feel good because the republicans are steaing it?

By Midori

March 17, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

RW,

What’s wrong with Poles?

Some of my best friends are Poles.

What do “you” have against them?

Oh!!! “Polls”????

Didn’t you know they make the world go round?

By Midori

March 17, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish: go suck a mango.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

Speaking of Pew Research, here’s something from another George

getalife,

I love true stories - often much better than fiction. Especially when the subject is rock and roll.

Other than Spinal Tap I can’t think of a one that wasn’t really, really bad. Well, School of Rock was ok, but that’s another comedy…

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Well Feingold thinks he listens to him, but I guess he is imagining things. Like grounds for censure perhaps, which I will compare to a “pipe-dream” since we are on the subject of drugs.

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

Has there ever been a more bigoted statement than..Some of my best friends are___?

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

Midori: I love your stuff. “Keyboard Kommandoes” is precious! (Note, I took the liberty to change it to K-K, reminiscent of the “Keystone Kops”.)

By Midori

March 17, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

RW, Wonder if these guys were “polled”?

By getalife

March 17, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

Sometimes I can see right through myself. It is not you it is only me/ hatip NIN.

Sorry, fresh batch of morning meds are kicking in.

Fiengold is setting the stage for impeachment.

Daniel,

Yes, they are bankrupting the country. Drunk thieves on a spending spree.

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Midori,

They may have been, but whether you like it or not we don’t live under a parliamentary system.

Daniel,

Kim may not like your changes.

By getalife

March 17, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

BD,

The “Song remains the same”, “The Doors”, “Woodstock,”, the one with Goldie’s daughter?

My memory is bad.

By getalife

March 17, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this

This one was good.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this

getalife,

And “The Last Waltz”, but those are documentaries.

You’re right though - the one with Whatshername Hudson was really good - loved it. Okay - that makes one decent fictionalized rock n roll movie!

Midori,

You’re such a charmer. Not.

As to your military superiority, I have a brother who served in Vietnam during the war (volunteer/ROTC/U of PA)and another who served in Korea (post war). Oddly enough, they both managed to serve and return hope without bitterness.

My family has been serving this country since the American Revolution. I am proud of their service, and I remain proud of this country.

It is unfortunate that someone who once wore the uniform finds humor in wishing ill will to befall our Commander in Chief. I’m not really sure what St. Patrick’s Day has to do with it, but I’m sure there is some stupid joke there somewhere that you hilarious libs find funny.

But carry on. There aren’t too many people who find you amusing other than Daniel and yourself esteemed self of course.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

Oh isn’t this just “peachy”! Madeline Albright is hinting that Operation Swarming is politically motivated.

Gosh, she sure has had second thoughts since she spoke about the dangers posed by Saddam Hussein and all those WMDs that he possessed.

Is there anyone left in the Democratic Party, other than Zell Miller and Lieberman, who have those old-fashioned concepts of honor and principles and are more faithful to their country then their Party?

I’m thinking…Anyone want to help me out here?

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

Let us know when the republlicans in Congress enlist, be sure to keep us informed when the republicans tell their chidren to suit up for Iraq. Who are you talking to? “Old fashioned concepts”. Are you joking? Tell us one truth of this administration? Tell us one promise kept? “Honor”? You have been listening to “Oxycontin”. I think it’s time for your nap.

By JJG

March 17, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

LS&L posts from today: 4:55AM, 6:03AM, 6:31AM, 6:42AM, 7:16AM, 8:03AM, 8:30AM. Thats three and a half freaking hours!! This guy needs to get off the crank, go out and get some friends!!!

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

Crayons, Snacks and HIV

Must be a new chapter in Why Mommy is a Democrat

I am REALLY laughing at this one, because this blogger thought that the book must be a hoax, and I had the same reaction. I thought for sure that “NCLB”, who alerted us to the book’s wonders, was a clever person who was giving us a link to some sort of parody.

But no! These people are serious.

Watch out for your kids - they may end up afraid of everything, not just global warming. And then you get depressed…

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Reading your tedious and boring posts does make me tend to fall asleep.

Daniel. Dull. Kind of rolls off the tongue.

By JJG

March 17, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

Daniel, BD only knows and uses small words and ideas, but he does seem to have a real predilection for the word tedious. I think he mistakenly uses it if he doesn’t understnad the topic at hand.

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

BD: Answer one question: What do we do with 8 Trillion in debt? You guy promised balanced budgets. Since then they’ve been looting the Treasury. Dull? Answer the fricking question. Boring? You’re a dunce. Your slavish, bovine allegience is killing America. It’s your debt too, smart a**. None of you have answers. Coward.

By getalife

March 17, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this

You have been listening to “Oxycontin”.

That is not dull, good stuff.

Then there is this:

This guy needs to get off the crank

I doubt Andy is on crank or even knows what ice is. Drugs are the theme today?

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this

Greedy republicans love money more than America.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 02:04 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

I’m waiting for you to tell me the answer, since you are so good at identifying the problems.

There is one answer that is unacceptable because it worsens the deficit: Raise taxes on “the rich”.

Any other bright ideas are welcome. Just try to present them in a lively fashion, ok?

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

That’s terribly unfair of you to ask a liberal Democrat like Daniel to have a solution. They are only supposed to endlessly list problems and try to fool people into thinking that means they have ideas. All you need to know is they support the troops. Oh and they hate the deficit but everything is underfunded.

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this

The “bright idea” is the simple conservative answer: Stop spending, tell the truth, cut the size of government, balance the budget and stop borrowing. And, Bartlett says taxes will have to be raised. I paid taxes last year. Abramoff did not. He refused to pay taxes on the money he stole. Is there a courageous leader who will tell us the truth? Or, do we get another flood of excuses from you “brown nosers”? What does Amnerica mean to you?

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

Hello? What happened to you guys? Too dull for you? RW: shove the “liberal” and “democrat”. I served a**hole. So, don’t tell me about the troops. And, one thng is for certain. Bush isn’t the answer. Bush has betrayed America. Can you admit that?

By DeathofDreams

March 17, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Republicans have issues.

Democrats have more.

Lawyers are a major contributor to the Democratic Party, but it is now getting to the point where Law will have to be taught in Elementry School and up along with Reading, Writing and Math in order to be able to function in society.

Or you could be rich.

What do I mean?

If you’re not a corporation or rich, and ever thought about doing anything creative, including your own film, photograph, poem, song or written story or essay, think again.

Unless you have thousands of dollars to file for a patent, that is now a thing of the past thanks to Andrew Knight.

This is real and not a joke. It was officially published by the US Patent office December 8, 2005.

The irony is that the art community is ALSO on the democrat’s ‘side’ for the most part, but guess who has more money?

Enjoy folks.

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

I’m tired of waiting for the “Keyboard Kommandoes”. Mark this date. I’m not letting go of this. Bush has betrayed America.

By Brian Curtis

March 17, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

Daniel: Well, of course he has. That’s where there’s a deafening silence from the neocon crowd whenever you point it out.

But rest assured, they’ll be back soon to cook up some distractions and denials, and it’ll be business as usual from the tools-n-fools crowd that still backs Traitor Bush.

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

You need to go to your “workout” before you blow a gasket. President Bush has in no way, shape, manner, or form betrayed America. Why should we mark this date when you have been spouting exactly the same crap since the first day you showed up?

By Midori

March 17, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

The Bumbler-in-chief speaks. This is SUCH great entertainment

By Brian Curtis

March 17, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this

Daniel: See? Told you. Denial’s a beautiful thing.

Fortunately, us patriotic Dems and a few sensible Republicans are still fighting the good fight for America—which, by definition, means against Bush.

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

I liked Daniel’s loaded question and then Daniel comes in to declare victory because nobody answered said loaded question.

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

RW: Tsk, tsk. Ok, now I get it. “Tell the truth, balance the budget, etc” = “…the same crap”. 8 Trillion in debt is no betrayal, just greedy republicans grabbing the cash. What does America mean to you? Oh, thanks. I am off to my work-out. No gaskets to blow. I know we will pull out of this. No help from Bush. No help from you. Ta, ta.

By RE

March 17, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

RW, I have to agree with you that Bush has not ever betrayed America, he is not a traitor. However that does not mean he was correct with his choices or forthcoming with his reasons for doing so. Lets not make this into something it is not.

BD, about your poll on republicans being happy, it kind od proves the saying “ignorant bliss”

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

Please excuse the repetitive Daniels and replace the second with Brian C. Thanks in advance.

By finch

March 17, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this

I wouldn’t say that Bush betrayed America. That would suggest intent to do harm, and I don’t see that. I do think he’s let the US down, especially concerning Iraq.

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

What about the UN and Iraq?

By getalife

March 17, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

Midori,

It would seem that they would be on the same page.

D’oh!

Our government “sends the wrong message” to the rest of the world.

They understand our government is an embarrassment to most Americans and do not hold us accountable.

Yes, I used the “A” word, the conservatives do not like.

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

RE, you posed a hypothetical in opposition to the Fair Tax the other day and I responded with the actual wording from HR 25 I never saw a response from you.

Sorry, but I really think taxing income is wrong and lends itself to poltical manipulation. I also think business and corporations collect revenue through prices and redistribute some of that revenue to the government in the form of taxes. So taxing them is a direct contributer to inflation.

By finch

March 17, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

Somebody in the Bush camp has found her “reality cap”.

SYDNEY, Australia— Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said that Iraq’s political transition will take a “couple years,” acknowledging the process that is currently stalled will not move swiftly.

So much for 2007. Disengagement from Iraq in 2008? Do I hear 2009? Going once… going twice…

By Midori

March 17, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

no, George - you’re not supposed to smoke them

By RE

March 17, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

Hi Scooter,

First, let me say that I fully agree with your objectives on tax reform, it is just the method I have a problem with.

I have read the section you posted, I am not able to respond here all the time, I do work a good deal of the time I am at work.

Anyway, I know that when you have a broken system, all new systems seem better than the broken one you have. With this system, I think all people with the intelligence and means to incorporate will do so. I remember back in 1978 I was made VP of my fathers company during the carter admin, I happen to have been 5 at the time, but it was an amazing tax benefit. With this plan, as an incorporated entity, the business can buy tax free all goods needed to furnish a home, from clothing to cars and furniture, and then resell as used those same goods to the individual owners at used prices. EX: the company buys a 40k Car licensed under the business. The best way to do this would be to keep the car licensed under the business and never pay a tax, but lets assume the business owner is a good citizen and will not break the law, although the amount of enforcement needed to track these purchases and subsequent resales would be immense. 24 hours after the purchase of the new car, the owner resells the car to himself, the amount of deprication in 24 hours would be between 10-15k depending on the resale value of the car. At a 33% fair tax, on the low end the owner just avoided $3300 in tax on that purchase. Now cars have a set and trackable depreciation, how about a 2000 TV. What would the resale on that be, 500? 250? I hope you see where I am going with this, nearly all items can be resold and avoid a huge amount of tax.

Lets assume the system works, and the fraud is discovered, the govt. would have to prove the items were resold under fair market value, but by setting up an LLC, all fines would be insulated from the individual. Therefore the Govt can lay claim to the LLC but not to the person responsible. Then just set up another LLC in your wife or kids name and keep working the same scam.

Honestly, your intentions are in the right place, this is just a faulty plan

By Midori

March 17, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

how’s that legacy coming along, George? no wonder he tried to smoke the shamrocks

By SS&S

March 17, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

Darn, I’m sorry I missed Daniel. Since he is so outraged by Abramoff not paying taxes, I was just wondering how he felt about a Democratic Senator who has served over four decades while sheltering multi-millions from taxes in foreign accounts.

Now that is the long and enduring kind of love that Daniel must welcome.

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

RE, how do current tax deductions for business calculate into your equation.

We already have people opening and collapsing LLC’s all the time to cheat the current system. They right off all sorts of things, including cars.

Americans have a problem saving money and we are a disposable/wasteful society. Both of these issues would be addressed with the Fair Tax. No tax system is going to be perfect, but we should go for one that is tranparent to all Americans.

No hurry, i’ll check back.

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

“Americans love her story because it confirms that in the US anything is possible, that anyone can succeed, no matter what the barriers, if only they are smart enough and determined enough, that the great American dream is open to everyone, no matter their race or gender.”

“And Rice skilfully uses her story when she speaks of the Administration’s democracy project and to argue that democracy takes time, that it took time, generations, before the US had a democracy that granted rights and freedoms to people like her.”

By RE

March 17, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

I am not a tax professional or an economist. I have not figured in business deductions of the current system into my example. I would like to know from you, because I concede you know a good deal more about the plan than I do, how real estate is taxed, and if business real estate would be taxed as well. I think form what I know of the plan, rentals would skyrocket while private home ownership of new homes would plummet. Sorry, off on a tangent.

There is a problem with saving in this country, but that is tied to lending rates and was a calculated decision to spur growth. If the lending rate is down, the savings rate would go down as well. It is rare to find a savings plan that will keep up with inflation, much less actually earn money. A dollar saved today will be worth about $0.97 a year from now after calculating interest vs. inflation, no good reason to save. We are a wasteful society because we have such an abundance of wealth, Why would anyone even try to fix a $25 coffee maker, unless you already have the tools and know how, it will cost you $40 to have someone fix it. SO we are wasteful and items are disposable in our society because of the cost benefit of replacement/repair. I do not see this being corrected by the fair tax, infact if services are taxed at the same rate as goods, there would be more waste except for those who know how to fix their own goods.

Do you know of any countries that have adopted this system, I would like to know how they have fared. I am trying to keep an open mind on this, but it seems a much easier cheat and much more intrusive system than the IRS we have now.

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this

RE, sorry bra but I just saw where you said a 33 percent sales tax would be on the “low end”.

While I am no Harvard or MIT economist like the ones who studied the fair tax and decided 23 % was the revenue nuetral rate, I still have to raise objection to that number.

Are you calculating in all the people who currently don’t pay income taxes, drug dealers, shade tree mechanics etc…, but buy retail goods and the fact that they would now be paying taxes? Or all the illegal alliens who currently get a free ride that would be paying taxes on their retail purchases? Or all the tourist that will be paying American taxes. Or all the companies that would relocate to America once the burdensome “progressive” tax system is removed?

Lets stick with 23% for now.

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

RE, sorry this delay is killing our dialogue. Give me a sec and I’ll address your questions, the best I can.

By Socialist Democrat

March 17, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

You’re not a Harvard or MIT economist? Could have fooled me with your brilliant insights. What are you a professor of then? Political science? Mathematics? History? It surely can’t be business, because those guys get the lowest GRE scores out of any content area (that’s the test that people who have graduated from college take, but you know that) and you’re much smarter than that. Do tell what your PhD is in.

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

SS&S: I don’t like tax cheats. Period. And, aren’t you outraged by crooks? Just answer the frikkin question. Has Bush betrayed America? Christ! We’re getting ripped off. We’re close to 9 Trillion in debt and you are wondering what I think about the democrats. RE: Real estate tax is simple. Purchase price less sale price = Capital Gain. I don’t know the Capital gains tax rate; but it is less than ordinary income.

By RE

March 17, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this

Sorry about the incorrect calculation on the tax rate. By low end I meant a 10k decrease from time of sale to time of resale instead of 15k.

I am not nor can I include the purchases of drug dealers, illegals…etc. I cannot calculate an unknown number. I do agree that illegals get a free ride on a lot of taxes, but the solution is to tighten illegal immigration (Which I think should include an expansion of the ease and quota allowed) so more people are legally in this country. Most tourists do not have to pay US taxes, they can buy duty free under the current system, and most likely wthat will be extended under the proposed system.

I keep hearing about all the companies that will relocate to the US once this is passed, but never have seen any concrete example why they would. Any company can currently incorporate in the virgin islands and avoid paying taxes now, I know Tyco does that and I believe Halliburton also shelters its profits offshore.

As I understand the proposal, each person would get a stipend monthly for basic goods. Therefore it would still be a progressive system, but it would not cut down on any illegal activity. Illegal drugs, prostitution….etc would still go untaxed, and actually be more affordable because of their untaxed status.

Question, in order to receive a stipend, as it is written now, would you have to be a legal US citizen. I know it sounds like an obvious question, but considering you do not have to be a US citizen to attend public school or get a drivers license, I am not sure.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this

finch,

It’s been less than 3 years since we set foot in Iraq. I bet it takes Barbra Streisand longer to decorate a house - badly.

Daniel,

You seem to think that there is some kind of rule where we have to hang around waiting for your brilliant posts. Nope, doesn’t exist. I’ve been out enjoying this beautiful St. Patrick’s Day.

Your answer, such as it is, is predictably short on details. Let’s hear some specific programs that you’d like to see cut. Maybe Brian C can help you out and you can work as a team!

You see every time we try to cut spending the Dems wail about how the elderlychildrenpoorminorities are being hurt by evil Republicans. You seem certain that you have all the Big Solution, so go for it.

This is your chance to redeem yourself - in many respects. Right now you’re radiating the image of an obnoxious, snotty faced, boor.

By RE

March 17, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

SD, come on now, that was not called for. We actually have a civil dialogue going on and you have to chime in with that. There is plenty of time for name calling and sarcasm, save it for now.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

I bet Socialist Dick has a PHD in “Geography” - a clever name for Marxist Indoctrination 101.

I totally agree on the Fair Tax. But it would get rid of the class warfare/evil rich arguments that the Dems depend on, so it will require a miracle to happen.

By Socialist Democrat

March 17, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Yes, because the republicans have been so effective in reducing spending and cutting the deficit (isn’t that what you guys are about?). There was a surplus when Clinton was in office (I know, he was a bad president because he cheated on his wife). Now we have the greatest deficits in the country’s history by far, and they’re growing. Someone will have to pay those debts off. But you don’t care, because like someone pointed out yesterday, you’re a “menopausal hag” who won’t have to worry about it. Well, I don’t want my kids and grandkids to pay for your mistakes.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

I just got back and may have been beaten to the punch, if not, stick this up your pinko rear end:

• That OBL and the Taliban are in contact with Iraq and that a group of Taliban and bin Laden group members visited Iraq.*

That the U.S. has proof the Iraqi government and “bin Laden’s group” agreed to cooperate to attack targets inside America.

That in case the Taliban and bin Laden’s group turn out to be involved in “these destructive operations,” the U.S. may strike Iraq and Afghanistan.

That the Afghani consul heard about the issue of Iraq’s relationship with “bin Laden’s group” while he was in Iran.

This was discussed 9/15/01, 4 days afetr the attacks on the WTC. Tell me again about the “no link.”

What other truths are going to come out?

By Socialist Democrat

March 17, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

Buy Douchebag,

The “H” in PhD is not capitalized. More brilliance on your part. Read a book every once in a while.

What’s your PhD in, Scientology?

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

RE, I am enjoying our to and fro and hope to continue at a later time but for now my wife is home. So, I’ll respond some.

Oh yeah Socialist Democrat, I have a PhD in deez and Education majors score the lowest on GRE exams. That’s right government school teachers. My last college, class after my accident, was at Georgia State University and it was a class for education majors. It took us twenty plus minutes to explain to this student what was meant by a “moon set”. I crap you negative, twenty plus minutes. She passed her praxis and is now educating America’s children. Probably to be socialist democrats.

My understanding has been, and I have not read Boortz’s book, that rentals and leases, (business or private) are taxed, as they are being leased or rented to an “end user”.

Old homes are not taxed, but new homes are. Certainly on the surface it would seem like new home sells would plummet, but keep in mind all the raw materials used to build that new home would not have been taxed, so the price should drop respectively.

I would think that savings would increase simply because Americans would have more disposable income. Since Amricans would not have any federal taxes taken from their checks.

As far as other nations relying on a consumption tax, I don’t think so. I do know that Texas and Florida rely on consumption taxes to fund their state governments. If you will allow me to cut and paste, here;

“Even a cursory study of history shows that nation/states that relied on consumption taxes flourished and prospered, supported democracies/republics, had expanding economies, and high levels of civil rights for their citizens. The exact opposite is true for empires that relied on income/poll/head taxes. These taxes were used to support despots, eventually collapsed the economies in which they were applied, and sundered civil rights.”

“The sales tax is a familiar tax, being a major source of revenue in 45 states and the District of Columbia. It is true, however, that no post-industrial nation, until now, has ever repealed its income tax and replaced it with a federal retail sales tax. However, England did repeal its detested income tax upon the defeat of Napoleon and enjoyed the fastest, longest expansion of its economy in its long history. An expansion that ended only with the – you guessed it – re-imposition of an income tax.”

You are right thatthe Fair tax would not cut down on any illegal activity. We can get into the idiocy of the “war on drugs” and prostitution later, but the dealers, pimps and prostitutes who buy retail goods would be paying tax, pimps and drug dealers buying big money items. Whereas now their professions are illegal so they report no income and pay no income taxes.

Buy Danish, you may be right, but it will be a fight with any politician as it would take to much power out of Washington and their lobbyist. So the attacks will come from all angles. You can join the Fair Tax Yahoo Group and volunteer. Education of the plan is the biggest force we the people have going for us.

Sorry for the long post. I have to go pet the cat and soak my fingertips in ice after all the typing.

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

SD: Well, that is the betrayal. He said he would balance the budget and then went berserk. We went from a 3 Trillion dollar surplus to 9 Trilion debt. We’re f*cked. So are our kids and grandkids. This drives the brown-nossers nuts. They blame us for asking the question. We can all pray for a patriot in the White House. Greedy republicans are killing our Nation.

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

Socialist democrat are you enjoying building your little straw men on peoples typing skills and grammer? Doese it make you feel superior to build straw men and knock them down? You should have a good time with mine.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

Listen Dick,

I really get amused when I hear Socialists complain about government spending. As a quick refresher:

Now you and Daniel and Brian can work together and between the 3 of you, come back and tell us exactly what programs you are willing to cut.

I can already guess, but I want to hear it from the horses’mouth (or should I say a*ss)

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Socialist Dick,

So now I’m back in the white trash camp! Please share your reading list with me so I can be smart like you.

I’ll fix my typo. Now you go and fix the world.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Oh, look, the Iraqis talked about cleaning up traces of WMD that they “didn’t have.”:

Removing prohibited materials and equipment, including documents and catalogs and making sure to clear labs and storages of any traces of chemical or biological materials that were previously used or stored.

It’s gonna gat bad here the next several days for you stupid POS liberals, I’m talking about B-A-D. You’ve been undermining your country in a time of war based on lies!, nothing but lies! Bush was right! Pinkos lied! Soldiers died!

By hewhoasks

March 17, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this

I’m always pleased to see how Bush is never expected (by his backers) to deal with any situation but how Clinton always was. For Bush anything can serve as an excuse for his failings (the recession blamed on Clinton, the cost of the war, blah blah blah.) For Clinton (or any other Democrat) the expectation is that the Democrat should prevail. (Up until January 20, 2001 Clinton should have dealt with bin Laden - and failed. After January 20, 2001 Bush was under no obligation to do anything with respect to bin Laden. After 9/11 the excuse was that Bush didn’t want to do a t**-for-tat response to bin Laden, explaining why he did nothing at all. But Bush, being a Republican, wasn’t expected to perform: excuses are fine.)

That’s a good start for any election campaign planning: According to the Republicans, if you want a government that is to deal with the problems you should select Democrats. If you want a government that will always find an excuse for failing you should select Republicans. Trust the Republicans, they know. Choose a Democrat if you want someone who won’t whine that events were against him. If whining that events were against him is OK, choose a Republican.

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this

BD, first they need to stop being loose with the facts. Listen to Daniel and you would think there was a three trillion dollar surplus when Bush took office, but that was a projected surplus.

“Vice President and Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore has outlined a plan that he says would eliminate the debt by 2012.”

Now why would Gore do that?

Now my wife is poking me to stop.

So happy Saint Patricks Day to all.

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

All programs will have to be cut. Everything. We will be paying for Republican excesses for years to come. If there is some part of “All” you don’t understand, let us know. Odd! You give credit to the “Republican” Congress for the last balanced budgets, while we’ve had Republican Congresses and a Republican President for five years and are 9 Trillion in debt! Whatever you do, under no circumstances, do not mention the name of the President who favored, sponsored, endorsed, encouraged and planned for those balanced budgets and ran on Welfare Reform.

By finch

March 17, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this

“It’s been less than 3 years since we set foot in Iraq.”

Absolutely right, Buy Danish.

And it took the US less than 4 years (from Pearl Harbor to VJ Day) to win World War II.

Now. Factor in the fact that the Bush administration has been giving terminally rosy predictions about the Iraq war since it started.

Don’t you think there might be a problem here?

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

Marshall Plan? The war is going like wars do, battles lost and battles won. Finch would have been a big supporter of the Lend Lease Program to keep America out of WWII, while Hitler got stronger and stronger.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this

Danish: You may want to bring up the fact that we are still in Japan and Germany, some 60 years after the mission was accomplished. If Bush gets us out of Iraq in 07, he beats the democrats by 56 years. Not bad.

By finch

March 17, 2006 06:16 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

Get your history straight. The Lend-Lease plan, supported by FDR but opposed by isolationist Republicans, gave Britain the warships and supplies to keep Hitler at bay in 1940 and 1941. Before Pearl Harbor.

So yes, I would have supported Lend-Lease. And you?

By whynot

March 17, 2006 06:17 PM | Link to this

scooter, this is guerilla warfare ther are really no real battles at all just a death here and a death there there hasnt been a “reagular” war since vietnam

Danish, hey man I stuck up for you saying that you werent into cows last night dont prove me wrong

By getalife

March 17, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

Daniel is correct and some of y’all are starting to realize what the children and their children are going to pay for in the future:

*”It is very disturbing, and it gives me a whole lot of heartburn,” said Senator Jim DeMint, Republican of South Carolina, who attributed the additional spending to political anxiety. “They want to go and say they are helping people, but we are not helping people when we are selling out their future.”

They should go back, eliminate the pork and unnecessary spending, hold those GOP members who passed this wasteful legislation accountable for their actions. Get back the billions in lost oil revenue royalties, get back the money from Iraq with oil revenue, rebates from Haliburton for overcharging meals, etc………….

Lock up the criminals responsible.

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this

The Cato Institute. Mind you, The Cato Institute. Conservative and Libertarian. They refer to Bush as a Fundamentalist Christian Socialist! There’s your debt. It’s going to get a lot, lot worse. They feed the suckers dogs breakfast christianity while they’re looting the Treasury.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

getalife: For once I agree, first thing we should do is cut off the rebuilding of New Orleans and try to get back whatever money that has been sent there already.

By whynot

March 17, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

Libs S,L If youre saying that WWII isnt over your smoking more crack than I thought or are you just saying theres no need to be there anymore? well as far as my knowledge goes I do believe someone named uh… George! thats it George W. Bush could probably do something about that if he really wanted but the Democrats who dont hold enough power to stop him (and even if they did he always gets what he wants)would probably hold him up using super powers right? or let me here your excuse.

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

gal: Great post. Sadly, DeMint is right. But they’re cowards. He, then, goes right ahead and votes for it!

By whynot

March 17, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

Libs S, L

right once again we should stop supporting the starving individuald in New Orlens so The Ceo’s (and Ex Ceo Cheney) can have a few more hours with their indonesian 11 yr old boy prostitute while wiping their asses with the constitution

GREAT PLAN!!!

By Liberals Suck and Lie

March 17, 2006 06:32 PM | Link to this

whynot,

WW II is still going! It is in the best interest of this country to continualy be at war. That’s the reall reason that Bush has us in Iraq, he knows it’s good for business and he has an MBA in business, so he knows what he’s doing. He wasn’t dumb enough to belive there were actually WMD’s there. This war will kick our economy into gear. You’ll see you POS liberal.

By getalife

March 17, 2006 06:32 PM | Link to this

Andy,

So we leave New Orleans to drown and let the later generations pay.

Thats a heckofajob y’all are doing for our country.

Republicans are starting to get heartburn. I wonder how much liquor or pills they have to consume just to sleep at night.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

finch,

It took 4 years AFTER we entered the war “theatre”, and two Really Big Bombs took care of the Pearl Harbor Bombers.

Then what happened? Do you remember? Did we just walk away? If you’re having any difficulty getting the timeline right, Socialist Dick - that fount of knowledge - might be able to help you out.

By Liberals Suck and Lie

March 17, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

whynot,

Danish is a woman, so she’d have a hard time doing a cow. A horse would probably be easier for her- not as dangerous as a bull.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this

All programs will have to be cut

Daniel,

Great! Now run on that. Ring up Howard Dean and tell him that you have the answers! You are the savior of the Dem Party.

Tell the poorminoritieselderlychildren that their entitlement programs are being cut. We can’t even reform Social Security, but you’ve got the magic answer.

If you can do all this (without cutting the military or raising taxes) I’ll vote for you!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this

whynot:

a- The Iraq war ended when Bush said it did, August 03 I believe it was. Now we fight and kill Al Qaeda and other Islamic terrorists.

b- The War in Europe was over in April 1945, you are saying the Continent was rebuilt by May 1945?

c- Don’t you think it is rather odd that an “ally” from World War 2 turned against us almost immediately after the conflict ended. And that “war” lasted some 40 years until Reagan won it? How can you seperate the two?

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

I remember Rush compiling threads of Clinton speaking with his ever changing balance the budget projections - quite a wide range of estimates. And then along came Gore…

By whynot

March 17, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this

Libs S, L, Id like to thank you I just about p** myself laughing when I read that be careful you dont burn yourself when you take a hit of those rocks and be careful you dont sell your computer for more telling yourself war will improve the economy or else we couldnt enjoy your very intelligant posts

you know I just got to tell you how right you are we really are fighting against Germany and Japan right now and they arent our trade partners they just pretend to be

war through killing the prime of the working class is helping the economy.

I’ll give you Bush knowing there were no weapons he just wanted to spread imperialisim and get more oil but not to help the economy to fatten his pocketbook

By Socialist Democrat

March 17, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

Did I mention that I am stealing other people’s screen names and I am very obvious about it. You fools will never catch on because I am far and away the most intelligent being on the planet. I am also the worlds biggest a*******hat.

By Socialist Democrat

March 17, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this

By Douche,

How long we were in Japan is really not relevant. We shouldn’t have been in Iraq in the first place. It simply wasn’t logical; there was no evidence or reasonable motivation for what we did. But now we will be in this pointless quagmire for years. It will be draining our economy, crippling us in every aspect of society. All the options are bad at this point. If we stay, it bankrupts us and more of our soldiers die for an empty cause. If we leave Iraq falls into civil war and becomes even more of a hotbed for terrorism. This is your mess, and unfortunately the rest of us and our children will be paying for it, thanks to you, the menopausal, tea drinking hag and her cultist conservative cronies.

By Scooter

March 17, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

whynot, I agree there are no battles per say. Just a choice for the Iraqi people a Wahabi run Government or a representative government. We loose some hearts and mids as do the terrprist.

finch, i’ve got my history straight pahtnah. In your words; “gave Britain the warships and supplies to keep Hitler at bay in 1940 and 1941.” how did that work out… keeping Hitler at bay. We will never no, but it could be possible that the war would not have been so deadly if we took Hitler on early. Or heck, if the league of Nations had of kept Germany in compliance with the Treaty of Versailles.

Knowing that Saddam was pursuing the end of sanctions, through Oil for Food corruption, so he could reconstitute his programs. Are you seeing a weak correlation wit the Treaty of Versailles?

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 06:50 PM | Link to this

whynotm

I’m not particularly worried about losing your support and your going all out and calling me a cow. After this post, I could call you insane:

By whynot

March 17, 2006 06:31 PM

Libs S, L

right once again we should stop supporting the starving individuald in New Orlens so The Ceo’s (and Ex Ceo Cheney) can have a few more hours with their indonesian 11 yr old boy prostitute while wiping their asses with the constitution

GREAT PLAN!!!

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

Socialist Dick,

I’ve read your first sentence and that’s it - no need to go any further:

How long we were in Japan is really not relevant

You and finch need to talk.

By whynot

March 17, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

Libs s and L the whole cow thing is talking about a post last night and I really did stick up for her

oh and those 40 years you speak of? they do have a name no not WWII “the Cold War” and that was pure imperialisim on Russians part and pure paranoia on the Americans, Germany and Japan werent involved and Germany definantly attacked Russia in case your hinting that Russia was secretly involved with them

The Iraq war was “allegedly” against the Al Queda and terrorists hince “the war on terror” so we are fighting the same people and you cant call a war won and over if everyones still fighting wait… I guess you can if your name is George W.!

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

All means: ALL. I’m not running for anything. But, you show us the problem. We have no leadership. Our current leaders are cowards. (See: the DeMint quote from gal, above.) Fiscal irresponsibility harms us all. If w do not put our house in order others will do it for us. Just watch. What do you think China is going to do with all those dollars? Play marbles? Everybody went ape-sh*t when the Arabs tried to buy our Port Operations. Watch when the Chinese start buying America. Why do you keep harping about the democrats? This government is fiscally irresponsible. Is that hard to understand?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this

getalife: Why isn’t insurance paying for New Orleans, like it would if my home were destroyed?

Answer: Because New Orleans is full of clowns, that’s why. Why does the circus have to be below sea level? Let them waste their lives on dry ground and leave my taxes alone.

Sit in here all freaking day long whining about the deficit, first budget cutting proposal that gets offered, they flip out on you. It’s so damn bizarre.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

Socialist Dick (Oh Virile One)

Damn, I was done reading your garbage, but I read really well backwards and upside down, and as I was scrolling back up my speed-reading eyes caught this real vote getter:

menopausal, tea drinking hag

Just try to get elected without Seniors, Tweeniors, or tea drinkers.

Run on it! Your team is making great progress today.

By whynot

March 17, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

Danish Read the f*** posts Brent called you and some others a barnyard f*** I thought you werent as insane as some of the others in your party and quite possibly had an original opinion that post you copied was sarcasam of course well I never said you had anything better than a 3rd grade education did I?

By whynot

March 17, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this

Scooter believe it or not I agree unfourtanetly some people enjoy bieng oppressed and I dont think the U.S. can really change that

By SS&S

March 17, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this

Daniel-I don’t claim to be an economist, but it may help to hear from someone who recognizes political pandering

But before you read a long analysis I would suggest that you take something to calm your hysteria; pharmaceutical, herbal, or something in liquid form (oral or anal), whichever you prefer.

Yes, I think that all crooks need to be punished. But I’m willing to wait for their convictions before I deem them to be crooks. However, I understand how your hysteria might interfere with your patience and reasoning.

By the way, there is a link in there that will take you to a blog site where a “hysterical Daniel” posted. Was that you? I didn’t bother to link. I’m going to assume, kinda like you do.

Any guy who calls himself “The Skeptical Optimist” has me convinced that his perspective is based in reality.

Scooter seems to be a smart guy in economics. Maybe he can help decipher.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this

Socialist Dick is the most intelligent being on the planet Mars. Here’s his picture - what a virile warrior!

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 07:04 PM | Link to this

Why Bother,

I addressed Brent bright and early this morning. And I’m delighted to see that you’ve put me in the trailer park camp!

You are still insane.

By whynot

March 17, 2006 07:09 PM | Link to this

Danish, insane and proud

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 07:10 PM | Link to this

Why not Why bother,

You’re “obvious sarcasm” is just way too over my head. Maybe if I’d made it to 4th grade I’d get it. Then I could go to Yale, just like that Taliban Ambassador.

BTW, since I infer from your snarky post that you have at least an 8th grade education, where did you learn this run on sentence stuff? Really impressed by James Joyce I gather.

By getalife

March 17, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I think the poster that said you were on crank maybe correct.

There is this thing, the insurance companies call a loop hole in their policies and they decided not to pay. Of course your buddies have their backs and the people do not stand a chance, like their children.

It is bizarre, you call yourself a Christian. Get off the dope son, and read real news instead of wingnut’s opinions.

By whynot

March 17, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

SS&S, you know what the say about assuming

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this

Daniel

You remind me of the Psychiatric profession:

Really great at diagnosis and analysis, really lousy at cures.

By finch

March 17, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this

*”t took 4 years AFTER we entered the war “theatre”, and two Really Big Bombs took care of the Pearl Harbor Bombers.”

Buy Danish,

3 years, 9 months to be more precise. Shorter than what the Bush administration’s now projecting for the Iraq War. And WWII was on 2 fronts, on 2 continents.

And Hiroshima and Nagasaki just hastened the inevitable. Historians don’t argue over whether or not Japan would have lost. They argue about how many US lives were saved because Japan didn’t have to be fought for inch by inch.

By whynot

March 17, 2006 07:19 PM | Link to this

Danish its okay if you dont get it you can go back to your still now

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

getalife: A insurance company “loophole”” for storm damage? Why, it’s the vast right wing conspiracy. Either that or the insurance companies knew they were dealing with idiots and they just blew you off.

Or: The democratic party inspired and funded ghettos weren’t insured! And they were below sea level. So let’s blow billions and billions and billions of dollars so that you clowns can parade up and down your street until you pass out drunk. Will we have to pay if a car runs you over in your drunken stupor?

I’m stoned?

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 07:28 PM | Link to this

Springtime in Paris. Time to strike again. Ah, the joys of Socialism!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 07:28 PM | Link to this

480,000 U.S. Soldiers died in World War 2, 2300 have died in Iraq.

How long will it be before we have to go rescue the Frenchies from their Muslim issues? I’m pretty sure Iraq is more stable than Paris is.

By whynot

March 17, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

Libs S, L once again your intelligance shows whether you were in a mansion or in a ghetto if you were in New Orleans you were below sea level and some insurance companies are democratic

By Napo D

March 17, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

Whaaaa? Andy! You got stoned without ME? GOSH! You pretty much hate me now, don’t you? And after I caught you a delicious bass….

By getalife

March 17, 2006 07:35 PM | Link to this

Nah, just a pro business government with no conscious and spending like they are in a drunken stupor.

Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader, said Thursday that given Mr. Bush’s record, “I really do believe this man will go down as the worst president this country has ever had.”

By Daniel

March 17, 2006 07:36 PM | Link to this

Thank you, I’m fine. Both Abramoff and Cunningham are crooks. They’re admitted felons, thieves, and crooks. When the “Duke” plead guilty he admitted selling his vote to the highest bidder. By the way, have you noticed the neumber of Ca. Congressmen who are “retiring”. I read where Cunningham wore a wire before he plead. BD: The “cure” is going to be real, real painful. I’m just a working man who believes in basic conservative values. Live within your means. Don’t spend money you don’have. Why is that hard for you? We, all of us, have been betrayed. And, we will pay for it. All the rest is BS.

By DavidU

March 17, 2006 07:37 PM | Link to this

In spite of President Bush’s almost unprecedented reluctance to use the veto power conferred by the Constitution — on March 23, Bush will have served longer without issuing a veto than any president since Jefferson, who vetoed nothing in two full terms — he says the nation needs, and implies that he would robustly use, a line-item veto power that Congress can and should give him. But both the “can” and the “should” are problematic.

What do you guys think about the line-item veto? Would it actually reduce gov’t spending? Or would it just become a political gimmick?

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this

Maybe the rebuild New Orleans crowd should read this.

getalife,

Offering people flood insurance that they choose not to buy and then not covering flood damage isn’t exactly a “loophole”.

By Midori

March 17, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this

Hey BD and Dusty!! Put your rear ends where your mouths are

PS: HAHAHAHAHAHAOBSENITYHAHAHAHAOBSENITYHAHAHAHBUSHISANIDIOT

By whynot

March 17, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this

Libs S and L WWII was more along the lines of trench warfare Iraq is guerilla oh yeah while your blogging take it easy on that pipe I dont know if you noticed but you just said Iraq was more stable than Paris hmmmm… lets compare shall we?

Iraqi armed insurgents-armed with rocket launchers, machine guns, explosives etc. willing to blow oneself up to kill others, majority of the population

Paris Muslims-armed with torches and sticks, moved out of their countries due to unstabilaty (yes that means Iraq too),more interested in stealing a new TV than social equality, do not have an entire nations army currently fighting against them just police, minority of the poplulation

By Midori

March 17, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this

Catapult the Propaganda

By Napo D

March 17, 2006 07:45 PM | Link to this

RW invited me to his house, and when I got there, he tied me to this chair. It was pretty much the worst day of my life.

By whynot

March 17, 2006 07:48 PM | Link to this

what is it with you people not wanting to help others??? didnt your mother ever teach you the Golden Rule???? selfish m*******

By DavidU

March 17, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

Liberals S&L and RW- We might as well then just start busing all Floridian out then right now, since on average Florida will get hit with three hurricanes every year. What’s the point of them staying there since we are arguing for not rebuilding cities surrounded by a faulty environments. Also let’s start the removal of all Californians, those pesky earthquakes. When should we start with the exodus?

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

I must have used the wrong chair.

By getalife

March 17, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this

RW,

Ask yahoo?

Here is some better info.

I know y’all do not want to help Americans and would rather help Iraqis and those who steal that money.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this

finchie,

You don’t need to tell me why we dropped the big As. My point was that it ended things in a hurry.

You are leaving out all Post-War stuff. We didn’t just pack up and leave.

I don’t understand how you can claim that it was over in 3 years/9 months with straight face.

BTW, since you have expressed support for military intervention in Iran, what do you think about the fact that the Iranians are already intervening in Iraq? Looks like one big battlefield to me.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 08:05 PM | Link to this

DavidU: Tomorrow would be fine for the exodus.

getalife: You are going to quote Harry Reid as an expert on someones suitability for office?

whynot: Your mommy taught you that welfare is the “golden rule?”

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

I don’t care if they want to rebuild New Orleans, just pay attention to the pitfalls and make darn sure the money that goes into the city gets used the way it is supposed to and make people insure themselves. I am also sick to death of morons saying someone that believes in personal responsibility and private charity is selfish. This country was not built on government dependence and the more we slide in that direction the weaker we become.

The same people that b-itch and moan all day about deficits want the Federal government to pay the freight for every freeloader that doesn’t want to help themselves. I want every landowner to insure themselves against whatever disaster is likely to befall them no matter where they choose to live.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Okay, you and John Kerry were in the Navy. That makes 2 things that you have in common.

By George

March 17, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Speaking of “Don’t spend money you don’have” , how bout this?

Cost of Iraq war could surpass $1 trillion Estimates vary, but all agree price is far higher than initially expected

By Martin Wolk Chief economics correspondent MSNBC Updated: 7:25 p.m. ET March 17, 2006

Martin Wolk Chief economics correspondent • Profile • E-mail One thing is certain about the Iraq war: It has cost a lot more than advertised. In fact, the tab grows by at least $200 million each and every day.

In the months leading up to the launch of the war three years ago, few Bush administration officials were willing to comment publicly on the potential costs to the United States. After all, no cost would have been too high if the United States faced an imminent threat from an Iraq armed with weapons of mass destruction, the war’s stated justification.

In fact, the economic ramifications are rarely included in the debate over whether to go to war, although some economists argue it is quite possible and useful to assess potential costs and benefits.

In any event, most estimates put forward by White House officials in 2002 and 2003 were relatively low compared with the nation’s gross domestic product, the size of the federal budget or the cost of past wars.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 08:11 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Come to think of it, you have symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder. All that uncontrollable hysteria is a worrisome sign.

The worst part about it is that until you get cured, we all have to “listen” to it.

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 08:11 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Please give me the link to the veto where Bush stopped a spending bill designed to help New Orleans.

Thank you!

By DavidU

March 17, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this

Liberals S&L - Where should we put the people? We need you to lead us.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 08:21 PM | Link to this

DavidU: Either on high ground or in an insurance salesmans office.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 08:28 PM | Link to this

I wish all you fiscally responsible penny pinchers had been around before LBJ dreamed up the Great Society.

By getalife

March 17, 2006 08:34 PM | Link to this

RW,

Here you go

By DavidU

March 17, 2006 08:39 PM | Link to this

BD - Yes, the old days: “I used to walk to school in the snow with no shoes.” It’s nice to reminisce. But the majority of the welfare programs funded by the Great Society were overturned during the Regan administration, so what are you talking about?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 08:39 PM | Link to this

Danish: Whatever they say is nothing but hot air, it’s their oxycontin, they indulge themselves in nonsense talk, the same broadcast they had when Reagan was in office, just to make themselves fell better. They could care less about the poor, unless the little dickens are driving through their gated community, then they’ll call the cops to give them some needed attention.

If these fiscal responsibility magpies ever came across an open door at the Federal Treasury they would back a semi up to it and blow the loot on some parade.

By DavidU

March 17, 2006 08:41 PM | Link to this

Liberals S&L - Great plan! Since you and your party have control of all the branches of Gov’t get to it. Move both states to…what? Denver, is that high enough?

By getalife

March 17, 2006 08:50 PM | Link to this

I am going to start handing out awards for great idea.

The first goes out to Andy who wants to move millions of people to, get this:

Either on high ground or in an insurance salesmans office.

So, the first brilliant award goes to Andy.

Brilliant!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 17, 2006 08:51 PM | Link to this

DavidU: Denver’s alright but I wouldn’t suggest moving from a warmer climate such as Florida, the little tykers could catch colds and want some government health care. We can’t have that!

Besides, this is a volunteer mission you have embarked the country upon. No more rebuilding with OPM, either buy insurance or travel inland. And we are not giving you a ride. Think of the settlers, go west, young man!

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 08:53 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

Why does the government need to be involved in where people live or in paying for their insurance? Geez..and people wonder why the hell we have such an out of control budget. BTW, you weren’t the moron in my response to you at 8:07. I hope it didn’t read that way.

By Objective Observer

March 17, 2006 08:55 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

On a lighter note, I say we should all go into “The Crallspace” and turn some progressives’ dreams into nightmares!

I can’t believe you lured me in there without offering to hold my hand. I thought you were chivalrous……

It frightens me to think that they think this country would be better off under their progressive ideas.

I’m assuming that “Crallspace’s” self photo was an attempt to look into his mind’s eye. I was surprised that the camera caught an image because his mind’s eye was looking pretty vacant in his posts.

Well, I’m on my way out for some green beer. At least the gas shortage will be solved for a couple of days anyway. Always happy to make my contribution any way I can.

I’ll check back later.

By getalife

March 17, 2006 09:08 PM | Link to this

OO,

Yes, that is a scary place but had good pictures of the great Northwest. I got that link from one of RW’s liberal blogger.

I am starting to hand out “brilliant” awards like you did with the lockwashers.

By JJG

March 17, 2006 09:34 PM | Link to this

I was thinking about the inane name of one of the posters here and did a liitle research on his behalf. Denmark has a liberal prime minister and liberals are the largest party in their parliment. Denmark has the highest overall taxation in the world, approaching a staggering 70% on some Danes. Denmark has at least ten socialist-communist parties and two centrist parties. Denmark is a paradise for people who don’t like to work, with a welfare state that truly boggles the mind. It’s probably time you re-thought your alias. This wasn’t too tedious, was it?

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

How “Progressives” think. Nothing to do with walking 5 miles to school in the snow.

I think I found one of your gurus. Everything he deplores about Reagan I love

Please note: I draw a different conclusion about the value of deconstructing welfare that the author!

By Semper Fi

March 17, 2006 09:48 PM | Link to this

SS&S. I just got finished reading the link you have in your 7:01 post. Anyone interested in the deficit should read this article to get a detailed and simple explanation of what all the numbers mean. Thanks for the link. I recommend this to all.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 09:55 PM | Link to this

JJG,

Not so tedious this time, just big on dhimmitude.

All that research that you did, and you didn’t come across a current events story known colloquially as the Cartoon Intifada which caused Cartoon riots?

Never heard of it? Well, in your defense, American newspapers were too frightened to publish those cartoons and many Americans never actually saw them, but surely you heard about these mysterious cartoons on the news.

My “screen name” was in response to that historic example of Islamofascism in action.

Buy Danish!

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

DavidU - make that “than” the author

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 10:01 PM | Link to this

SS&S and Semper,

Yes, and isn’t it interesting how wars cause the deficit go up!

By Midori

March 17, 2006 10:04 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON- Mother Barbara taught him how to read. She couldn’t teach him how to govern. Too bad.

By Semper Fi

March 17, 2006 10:13 PM | Link to this

So the room was made up largely of journalists and government sources, which are opinion makers? And they that don’t like GW. Maybe that explains the polls. some Americans have been brainwashed by these elite idots.

By Buy Danish

March 17, 2006 10:40 PM | Link to this

Any of you anti-war folks going to be attending any of these grand marches sponsored by the International ANSWER? Nice mix of Hollywood elites and Communist activists. Maybe Belafonte will sing. Sounds like fun!

By Semper FI

March 17, 2006 10:52 PM | Link to this

Okay, here’s the plan:

Back off and let men marry men,

women marry women, and totally legalize abortion.

In three generations, there will be no Democrats!!!

Damn! I love it when a plan comes together!

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 11:19 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

The good news from your link is that there will be a San Francisco protest. That can only mean a new photo essay from Zombie.

By JJG

March 17, 2006 11:20 PM | Link to this

BD, So let me get this straight, the reason you now admire Denmark, even though you apparently know absolutely nothing about the place, as evidenced by your deafening lack of response to any of the salient points, is because you think you’re making a point about Islamofascism? Obtuse and dim-witted to say the least…

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 11:23 PM | Link to this

I should give a warning about my link to Zombietime. Whatever you do, don’t go to the “Breasts not Bombs” gallery.

By clark

March 17, 2006 11:26 PM | Link to this

It’s not Sunday yet, keep the preaching for Sundays at church

By JJG

March 17, 2006 11:30 PM | Link to this

For all of you Faux News fools: “The war was the hard part. The hard part was putting together a coalition, getting 300,000 troops over there and all their equipment and winning. And it gets easier. I mean, setting up a democracy is hard, but it is not as hard as winning a war.” (Fox News Channel’s Fred Barnes, 4/10/03)

What a buffoon these moonbats are.

By finch

March 17, 2006 11:36 PM | Link to this

Meanwhile, back in the real world…

Web Exclusive| World On Scene: How Operation Swarmer Fizzled

“Before loading up into the helicopters for a return trip to Baghdad, Iraqi and American soldiers and some reporters helped themselves to the woman’s freshly baked bread, tearing bits off and chewing it as they wandered among the cows. For most of them, it was the only thing worthwhile they’d found all day.”

On the plus side, there have been no American casualties so far, for which we can be grateful.

By RW-(the original)

March 17, 2006 11:46 PM | Link to this

finch,

There is such a gleeful tone to your posts when you seem to be pointing out some imagined American failure. (It’s actually a little disgusting) However, since I am in a benevolent mood you may be happy to know that the USA ceased to exist a few weeks ago.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 18, 2006 06:32 AM | Link to this

The following is sidebar to an earlier post and it is meant to convey the whole truth instead of the slanted Anti American giggling theme from the earlier post:

On Friday morning, Loomis said, the forces “continue to move” through the area. “Approximately 40 suspected insurgents were detained without resistance,” he said. “Tactical interviews began immediately, and 10 detainees have been released.”

The sweep also uncovered six weapons caches, the U.S. military spokesman said.

That’s 30 bad guys and six weapons caches off the street. I know the other poster is desperate to find any, any sign of American failure to satisfy his deep seated weirdo hatred, but we are setting the bar awful low aren’t we?

Someone who lives on planet Earth, instead of low space orbit, would see this operation Swarmer as a sign that the insurgency has been just about routed from the country, seeing how we can’t find them anymore..

By finch

March 18, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

RW,

I would not characterize my posts as gleeful. I’m just pointing out (using a news source that’s more reliable than buzzflash or the limbaugh link) that the much ballyhooed “Operation Swarmer” may be a lot of blue smoke and mirrors, and that one shouldn’t base perception on nothing but Pentagon press releases.

Or do you like being manipulated by your government?

But thanks for the special dispensation. I’ll try not to abuse the privilege.

I’m glad that 30 bad guys were rounded up. I hope that means 30 IMD conspirators are out of business. But that’s a drop in the bucket.

By Buy Danish

March 18, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this

I’m putting this in bold shouting type so none of you miss this:

By JJG

March 17, 2006 11:20 PM

BD, So let me get this straight, the reason you now admire Denmark, even though you apparently know absolutely nothing about the place, as evidenced by your deafening lack of response to any of the salient points, is because you think you’re making a point about Islamofascism? Obtuse and dim-witted to say the least…

Only 23 MILLION links to Buy Danish available here

And here’s a fun googled image search result

And just in case you’d like a Buy Danish LOGO, look here

In fact, this is so good, I think I’ll double post this over at the new cartoon. See ya over there…

By RW

March 18, 2006 08:17 PM | Link to this

Hey Pinko,

Are you coming over tonight for a little Log Cabin roll-in-the-hay party?

We need a bottom that can take a lot of abuse.