Mike Luckovich

By DavidU

March 10, 2006 11:56 PM | Link to this

LOL….I love the hats.

By RW-(the original)

March 11, 2006 12:21 AM | Link to this

An iceberg named Iraq? That’s not going to sit well with the Global warming kooks ml.

By Mike K

March 11, 2006 12:25 AM | Link to this

Does the other hat say Hannity? God help us, our commander in queef is in the water, quick someone bash a liberal.

By finch

March 11, 2006 12:39 AM | Link to this

ml seems to be infatuated with the Titanic.

I’m waiting for the one showing Bush, Cheney, Rummy, etc. re-arranging the deck chairs.

By John Turner

March 11, 2006 02:34 AM | Link to this

I think the point is that the officers of our ship of state remain inflexible in the extremity.

Their highly mobile U.S. forces are tied up providing point-attack support for a local military fighting its own people for control against externally-funded, resupplied guerillas. And all they can think of is attacking their enemies.

This is a situation we’ve seen before and have in the past enjoyed little decisive advantage at.

The fact that our microchips have a million times as many transistors on them this time around may not change things as much as Rumsfeld hopes.

Rumsfeld and Cheney see every problem as “attack the opposing leadership”. They still hope to gadget, spy and bomb their way out of this. Round up all the instigators as if they are some limited-membership fraternity rather than the randomly anointed; bomb their centers of power even though our powerbases are far more centralized than theirs.

And at every opportunity they tip their hand, send the wrong signals, sow the winds we shall soon be reaping as whirlwinds. This self-limiting trait would be laughable in a regional politician. Too bad we elected them president.

They are so often compared to Hitler because we’d rather not think we elected Mussolini instead.

By John Turner

March 11, 2006 02:44 AM | Link to this

I think the point is that the officers of our ship of state remain inflexible in the extremity.

Their highly mobile U.S. forces are tied up providing point-attack support for a local military fighting its own people for control against externally-funded, resupplied guerillas. And all they can think of is attacking their enemies.

This is a situation we’ve seen before and have in the past enjoyed little decisive advantage at.

The fact that our microchips have a million times as many transistors on them this time around may not change things as much as Rumsfeld hopes.

Rumsfeld and Cheney see every problem as “attack the opposing leadership”. They still hope to gadget, spy and bomb their way out of this. Round up all the instigators as if they are some limited-membership fraternity rather than the randomly anointed; bomb their centers of power even though our powerbases are far more centralized than theirs.

And at every opportunity they tip their hand, send the wrong signals, sow the winds we shall soon be reaping as whirlwinds. This self-limiting trait would be laughable in a regional politician. Too bad we elected them president.

They are so often compared to Hitler because we’d rather not think we elected Mussolini instead.

By Ralph

March 11, 2006 02:47 AM | Link to this

Well said, Mister Turner, well said.

By AntiRadical

March 11, 2006 04:22 AM | Link to this

It’s such a wonderful thing when the American public finally wakes up and decides to do some house cleaning. Reps have the same disease the Dems had after 8 years of Clinton. They thought that they would get a free ride from moderates and they have become arrogant and ungrateful. Bush has been good for our world position. Like Nixon, most of his value comes from the image that he is unbalanced and thereby unpredictable. People universally fear the unpredictable. Problem with this world view is that people may fear thugs and bullies (our world image, now) but they will never respect them any longer than it takes to get out of earshot! Too bad the President has few redeeming qualities other than the politics of fear; he’s not smart, he’s not a gifted speaker, and he’s not honest. Kinda leaves the Reps holding their eggs in one frail basket (Iraq War). They must defend this basket with all their might as it’s the only basket they have left. As the toon illustrates, in the end they will need to shift blame to some other entity (press, bad weather, pinkos, etc.) for their failure to “plan to win”.

By Wild Sects

March 11, 2006 07:53 AM | Link to this

Mike’s poll is currently running 83.33% in favor and 16.67% opposed. It won’t be long and 16.67% will be Bush’s approval rating. That’s two points lower than Cheney’s current approval rating. I’m heartened by the fact that my fellow Americans are snapping out of their stupors. Even the Congressional Republicans are beginning to stand up to Bush. Then again it is an election year and they will do anything to get re-elected. If they maintain control of the House and Senate I fear it will be two more years of the same old crap. Wild Sects

By Souldrift

March 11, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this

finch - It doesn’t matter which doomed ship he uses, now does it? Were any others so famous?

Love the implications, great cartoon!

Blog and Tan

By Objective Observer

March 11, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

R.W.:

A new “Anarchist.” Take a look!!!

By getalife

March 11, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

How bout that Claude Allen character.

D’oh!

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

ML’s cartoons are so highbrow that I rely on really smart AJC readers to explain them for me.

I am particularly grateful to John Turner for his astute analysis. I didn’t completely understand his explanation the first time, but the second post was on the money, and cleared everything up.

Thanks JT!

By SS&S

March 11, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

finch - I was inspired by the bravery of the “band” that continued to play on the “Titanic.” Heroes in every sense of the word IMHO as you say.

By AntiRadical

March 11, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

Rice Hails Democratic Triumph in Chile

“Three decades after the United States tried to oust a Socialist president in Chile, Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, said Saturday’s inauguration of a socialist leader represents the triumph of democracy over a troubled history.

Shucks, I thought Condi was the only member of this administration that didn’t have her head planted firmly up her backside.

This approaches hilarity. The USA installs and supports Pinochet in power, he kills thousands of dissidents before being overthrown, and now that the Chileans elect a Socialist woman to lead them, “Democracy has triumphed”.

Some things never change, though. Chile will still get the $80 million in “drug interdiction” welfare and, of course, it will certainly be used to halt the flow of drugs into our streets as efficiently as it has for the past quarter century. (BIG laugh)

Can this administration get any more out of touch?????

By MikeIsABigot

March 11, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

Yeah, Mike, you Arab-hating bigot. You are right.

The liberal media does lie all the time.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

I need another cup of coffee - I posted this on the wrong page. Yeah yeah yeah, I’m a dunce…

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

getalife,

It is queer that he made it through the vetting process.

By The Pirate

March 11, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this

The media are only as Liberal as the Conservative businesses that own them. The myopic, polarized viewpoints on this blog are astounding, and should be enuff to make anyone realize this is exactly what the government would like. While the collective here (mutual admiration societys in reality) hem & haw, the State hurdles unfettered towards tyranny and repression.

“In the United States the majority undertakes to supply a multitude of ready-made opinions for the use of individuals, who are thus relieved from the necessity of forming opinions of their own.”

By getalife

March 11, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

It seems like when someone resigns from the current administration, there will be an indictment forth coming.

This goes well with the ethics reform failing and business as usual.

How do y’all feel about the Campbell trial?

By MikeIsARacist

March 11, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

Wild Sects -

If you weren’t so ignorant, you would know that Reagan, Clinton, and almost all Presidents had approval rating that were just as low in this point in their Presidency. It means nothing. Kind of like liberal rhetoric.

By Socialist Democrat

March 11, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this

MikelsARac (aka Andy),

That statement is simply not true. Both Reagan and Clinton had approval ratings in the 60’s at this point in their second terms. The only president in recent memory with numbers similar to Bush League’s was Nixon, and he certainly was a winner.

By Objective Observer

March 11, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

Getalife:

On the Claude Allen faux pas… Maybe it was all planned, his resignation, his arrest…his book release in the aftermath J/K. O.K., o.k…. An obvious mistake kinda like Brownie. Is Brownie gonna write a book?

For me? Bill Campbell…who cares. I’m still waiting on the outcome for “my county politician.” I like my excitement close at hand where I can feel the energy!!!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

I talked to an attorney, someone that one of my friends knows, and he said point blank that the post at 3/10/06 6:42 p.m. and also “Ralph” the day before is no different from race, age or gender discrimination. Basically, the way the discrimination laws are written, anything thing that you are powerless to change, cannot be used against you in a hurtful manner. He was surprised that the Atlanta Journal Constitution is still allowing this person to post because letting this go unanswered is, in a sense, condoning this type of behaviour.

Anyway, when I told him the circumstances surrounding this incident, he got angry and pretty much said that he would help us do what was necessary, and that he would be doing it pro bono. When he gets back to his office next week, he will be looking for the exact federal statute that has been violated.

I also asked him about the use of rough language on this blog and he said it is up to the AJC to establish a policy, which is what they are doing with the “censor” server. But, he also said, if Howard Stern gets away with it, so can you.

By WashingtonState

March 11, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

With the current climate of hatred and fear created by the administration, wonder how they are going to handle the recent disclosure that UAE (Dubai) already does a lot of business with the U.S. in sensitive areas. The Dubai Deals you didn’t know about. Nothing succeeds like excess.

By SarahConnah

March 11, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

Faux News Flash! President Georgie Boy, when advised of the death of Slobodan Milosevic, released the following statement: “He was great! I’m sure the NHL will not see his kind of talent again anytime soon.”

By getalife

March 11, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

OO,

Corruption is everywhere.

Please let me know how “my county politician” turns out.

Maybe, he should use Bill’s attorney.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

LSL,

Hey Andy, the lawyer who defended you in your money laundering scheme while you were still doing mall security probably won’t be as adept at a civil rights/discrimination trial vs the ACLU. You may want to hire someone who doesn’t work out of a trailer or maybe someone who actually has a criminal record shorter than yours.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

The Pirate says,

“In the United States the majority undertakes to supply a multitude of ready-made opinions for the use of individuals, who are thus relieved from the necessity of forming opinions of their own.”

Jolly Roger,

Golly, this pretty well describes your team. “Hate Speech for Dummies” starts as an invaluable resource for ready made epithets like, neoconnazihitlerhomophoberacist, and concludes with a final chapter on Name-Jacking. Everything you need to be a professional wanker in one handy little reference book.

Except that you and your fellow pirates are in the minority and we aim to keep it that way.

By seeker

March 11, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Separated at birth??

(Today is Osama bin Laden’s birthday, his 49th. An appropriate time to consider the strange similarities between the world’s most notorious fugitive and the President of the United States.)[(http://www.opednews.com/articles/opednebobburn060310osamaandgeorge.htm)

By The French

March 11, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

LS&L aka Andy,

Any law-yaire who would take your case ese probably sleezaire than you, wheech ese preety sad conseedairing you are a formaire mall security guard and current pedophielle. Now go ay-way, or I weel taunt you ay-gain!

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

With the current climate of hatred and fear created by the administration

WS,

If you’re going connect dots to the Dubai Ports World, then the climate of fear and hatred is in Congress, not the White House.

By seeker

March 11, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Separated at birth??

Today is Osama’s 49th birthday. An appropriate time to consider the strange similarities between the world’s most notorious fugitive and the President of the United States.

By The Other Pirate

March 11, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

We were in the minority two years ago. Now we’re with the rest of the 66% of the country that now recognizes what a failure this administration and your conservative ideology has turned out to be. Now you’re the minority. But keep living in denial; it would be consistent with the M.O. for those on the right.

By finch

March 11, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

The White House has to share responsibility for the “climate of fear and hatred” sourrounding anything Islam. President Bush and his staff have done little to dilute the “murdering AY-rabs” stereotype that’s been festering since 9/11, especially among Republicans. The chickens came home to roost with the failed Dubai deal.

BTW, “An intestine in every pot” is sheer marketing genius. Let’s do lunch!

I see where Bill Campbell says he got a fair trial. Anytime anyone walks away from a guilty verdict and says he got a “fair trial”, you know that he got away with something.

By finch

March 11, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

BD,

Why is “neocon” offensive? Why is it more offensive than, say “pinko”?

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

Frenchie,

Que vous etes emmerdant - comme un connard sans des couilles!

En Anglais on dit: “wank wank wank”

By RW-(the original)

March 11, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

As “seeker” seeks to find a way to link his propaganda into a form that actually takes you somewhere. Let’s take a look at last night’s 6:42 from the other thread.

This is not a legal issue it’s a matter of someone with a very sick outlook. The recourse is with the AJC and whether this is the way they want their reader forums handled and if this is the level of respect they have for their readership in general. I said my piece to the 6:42 idiot and if anyone wants more I would suggest you write to the paper and to ml specifically. The “e-mail the GM” link on these blogs is worthless as all you get is a thank you note. They do have listen@ajc.com, but I don’t know if that’s any better.

Keep in mind that the AJC recourse may be worse than the problem as they may decide to make this one of the 9 to 5 monitored blogs.

By Jolly Rodger #47

March 11, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

Danish is so obsessed with wankers because she dearly wants one and can’t get any!

By getalife

March 11, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

I agree, this is a free blog with no rules and you can expect disturbed people posting and spewing hate here.

It is freedom of speech and I have read worse on other blogs.

Feel free to bash that idiot because that is the price he should pay for such a disrespectful post.

Like RW, I would suggest that poster to seek mental health treatment.

By finch

March 11, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

I can tell that it was the real RW that wrote the 12:41, and RW, you are correct.

I’ll miss what this place once was, but I won’t miss what it’s turned into. Legal action’s a no-winner. Registration might be nice. Serious babysitting by the AJC probably isn’t worth it. Too bad.

By RW-(the original)

March 11, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

finch,

It’s almost comical that one has to analyze a post for authenticity. What did you do to blogger/blogspot? Ever since you linked to what can only be assumed to be a chitterlings recipe, from your description, the whole network has been down.

By Daniel

March 11, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this

gal, finch: Ignore the creeps. I sense the public is tired of the right-wing hate machine and the “swift boating” of America. When they raise something intelligent here, respond.

By Daniel

March 11, 2006 01:10 PM | Link to this

I’ve got to go to my work-out. Hre is my thought for the week now behind us. When I watched the republicans and democrats in Congress rally to defeat the Dubai fiasco it occurred to me: “The ship is deserting the sinking rat”. Later

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

The White House has to share responsibility for the “climate of fear and hatred” sourrounding anything Islam. President Bush and his staff have done little to dilute the “murdering AY-rabs” stereotype that’s been festering since 9/11…

finch,

Surely you jest! No wonder you don’t believe that Saddam Hussein was a threat.

The White House has done everything but drop its drawers and bend over not to “offend” and they have not even come close to using phrases like “murdering Ay-rabs”.

Let’s hear your politically-correct description of that group of men, coincidentally of the same religion, coincidentally from the Middle East, who just happened to be organized by a certain Middle-Easterner who coincidentally issued a Fatwa to kill all Americans.

I am prepared to be amused by your answer.

Meanwhile, as for “neocon”, that term implies that the person was a former progressive liberal, probably a Jew, who has had second thoughts. They hardly make up the majority of “conservatives”, although their influence is considerable.

I agree that “pinko” is hackneyed and I have never used it, preferring words like “Leftist” to make the same point.

If you can come up with a better alternate to “pinko”, I would welcome it.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this

When they raise something intelligent here, respond

No need to respond to Daniel, that’s for sure!

Hmmmmm, I wonder if he is “Beef and Juice”. Nah. But the weekly mention of “the workout” is highly suspect. Of what I’m not sure exactly, but suspect to be sure.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

RW,

User name and password? Wouldn’t that prevent nic-jacking? Maybe existing anti-pornography standards would take care of sickos like Ralph.

I know what you mean about the ‘thank you’ notes. I’m still waiting for that prompt reply that I was promised days, and emails ago.

Re writing ML directly, do you think he is unaware of the situation?

By The Other Pirate

March 11, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

You make more sense in French. And why would “neocon” refer to a Jew? No you’re not racist, just anti-Semitic. Once again, your brilliance shines.

By getalife

March 11, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

Daniel is correct to ignore them.

Blogs are a great way to read people’s minds.

It shows you what they are thinking and it some cases, you will find some that need a doctor for mental health treatment.

By SS&S

March 11, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

Wow! Opposing views coming together in a common effort! I have new found respect for intelligent posters with opposing views, but then I always did.

There’s room in the dingy for more. Sorry I had to use the above ^^^ reference, but we can only ask so much of the opposition. I’m impressed with myself, my ^^^ was perfectly aligned.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

Jolly Roger #47,

You’ve got me on the wanker. I don’t use the word Pinko, but my inherent pen!s-envy makes my mind continually wander back to the wankers. Wank, wank, wank. I’m the She-Andy and proud of it.

By SS&S

March 11, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this

Well shiite! Sabotaged by ml’s blog.

By RW-(the original)

March 11, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

A protected user name file would stop the nic-jacking and one user name per valid e-mail address would help as well. Nothing will stop sickos except content monitoring of the comments and I really think that would be much worse. They could block abusers accounts and IP addresses, but I seriously doubt anybody at the AJC cares enough about their online forums to bother with that.

In my opinion ml is unaware of many things, not the least of which is how this reflects directly on him. If I decide to write to him or to letters editor Larry Wilkerson (letters@ajc.com) I’ll copy you.

By AJC Editorial Staff

March 11, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

To whom it may concern,

It has been decided that the demeaning language and insults that have been so prevalent of late on this site do not fit the image that the AJC would like to set for itself. We do not feel that responsible adults would or should conduct themselves in the fashion that has recently been apparent. For this reason we feel we must take action regarding this site. The action we wll take will be to reveal the identities and locations of the most notorious perpetrators. These are the results:

Buy Danish- Betty Davidson, unmarried pregnant member of the Daughters of the Confederacy who lives on her family’s old plantation land and blogs from her doublewide while sipping Night Train (hence the anger) because she’d rather pay for her Ford F-150 than a mortgage.

RW (the original)- Randy Wojahowski, wealthy pawn shop owner and Star Trek fanatic. Has been rejected by the KKK during various attempts to join the brotherhood. Blogs from his cot in the back of the pawn shop.

Liberals Suck- Andy McDyckhead, unemployed 23-year-old former mall security guard. Blogs from with mother’s place 24/7 between viewing various gay porn online. This is Neo Reo.

Andy- See Liberals Suck above.

Liberals Suck & Lie- see above

Scooter- Eddie Van Hagar, shoe salesman; looks up to RW and has begun a comic book collection to win his favor. Slightly sensitive for a compassionate conservative, will soon come out and prove to be a moderate. Blogs from work in between grabbing shoes from the back room.

Pinko’s Worst Nightmare- Francis Fairyboy, night club bouncer, gay basher, secretly gay himself (only bashes gays out of self loathing), high school drop out, one of RW’s disciples. He and Andy known to spend lots of time together at Piedmont Park. Blogs from Buy Danish’s trailer because he has no internet service of his own.

Semper Fi- Car salesman training to be a cage fighter, but keeps losing to Rashad, a 12-year-old yellow belt at his martial arts school. Blogs from his one bedroom condo in between reading articles in “Soldier of Fortune” magazine and training with nunchucks. This is Ralph.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

Possibly Blackbeard,

I am not in the least bit anti-semitic, and have linked to countless pro-Israel articles on this blog.

Most neocons (Kristol, Horowitz, Wolfowitz et al) are Jews, as are most of the former socialists and progressives from whose ranks many of them came.

Since I am a great fan of the neo-conservatives, and consider David Horowitz a genuine modern-day hero whose efforts I actively support, I fail to see how I am anti-semitic; indeed it is logical and correct to draw the exact opposite conclusion.

By D'n

March 11, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this

Iceberg, Goldberg, Rosenberg, they’re all Jewish, no?

;)

By finch

March 11, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Sure, President Bush held hands with Saudi crown prince Aziz. Big deal. It did nothing to tamp the anti-Islamic and anti-Arab rants among lesser “Republicans” and talk show flamers. The results were predictable. The Dubai deal sank before it ever left the shipyard.

I must have missed something. To me, neocon never suggested Jew. Not with subscribers like Cheney and F*******. But I avoid using it anyways, since some people do find that word touchy.

RW, blogger works fine here!

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

RW,

Please do copy me. I don’t know that I have the energy to compose a proper letter after all the emails that I sent, but I may get inspired.

The AJC may not like their name being used by the 2:01 pm jacker and insufferably boorish bore who is either too ignorant or too sick to refrain from referring to Neo-Reo amidst his stale old material.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this

D’n,

What’s your point if there is one?

By getalife

March 11, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this

getalife, It is queer that he made it through the vetting process.

Is this what you were talking about?

Allen stirred controversy as Helms’s campaign spokesman in 1984 by telling a reporter that then-Gov. James B. Hunt Jr. — Helms’s opponent — was politically vulnerable because of his links to the “queers.” He later explained that he used the word not to denigrate anyone but as a synonym for “odd and unusual.”

By D'n

March 11, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

It was a joke, son, a joke! sheesh!

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

finch,

What anti-Arab rants?? BTW, I’m still waiting for the politically-correct way to respond to those who we are at war with.

getalife,

I didn’t see your more detailed link. I was referring to this:

During his confirmation hearing, Allen was questioned about his use of the word “queer” when he was a press aide to Sen. Jesse Helms, R-N.C., in 1984. Allen said he didn’t intend it as a slur against gay people

In that context it looked like an attempt to disqualify him merely for being politically-incorrect.

By finch

March 11, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

Cool! The AJC thinks the name of the guy who write “The End of History” is a cuss word!! Well, it does start with an F…

BD, my personal definition of neocon is anyone who parrots socially conservative goals (prayer in school, no gay marriage, etc.) while rejecting a classic conservative’s aversion to deficit spending, big government, and nation-building.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

D’n,

Well if you had stopped at “Iceberg” it might have been funny.

By finch

March 11, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

More on the people who once supported Bush and who now think he’s lost it. It’s not just George Will and Bill Buckley.

“We should welcome the recent epiphanies by conservative commentators who have finally realized that the Bush administration isn’t trustworthy. But we should guard against a conventional wisdom that seems to be taking hold in some quarters, which says there’s something praiseworthy about having initially been taken in by Mr. Bush’s deceptions, even though the administration’s mendacity was obvious from the beginning.”

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

finch,

P.S. Who is the famous neocon, “F*”. I’m scratching my head over that one.

I don’t find the word “touchy” just way over used, and usually used incorrectly as a blanket swipe at all conservatives.

Of course “NAZI” and “Hitler” aren’t exactly true to their original meaning either, and they are used almost as frequently as “neocon”, with the same predictably boring results.

By SS&S

March 11, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

D’n - I caught the ;)!

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

finch

Yeah right, you quote Paul Krugman who is cites Bruce Bartlett, which means Bush is history. Not so fast.

Unlike Will and Buckley, Bartlett is not exactly a household name. Another sleeper if you ask me.

By finch

March 11, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this

BD, I agree that ‘nazi’ and ‘fascist’ are so overused they’ve robbed the words of their original impact, which is really scary.

Google “The End of History”, (a book) and the author is the F guy. Here’s a snippit from his Wikipedia entry. I’m not linking it, because I know the AJC computer would reject it. The F name and all that.

“He was active in the Project for the New American Century think tank starting in 1997, and signed the organization’s letter recommending that President Bill Clinton overthrow the then-President of Iraq, Saddam Hussein. [1] He also joined in its similar letter to President George W. Bush after the September 11, 2001 attacks, a letter that called for removing Saddam Hussein from power ‘even if evidence does not link Iraq directly to the attack’.”

He has recently revised his opinions.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this

finch,

I googled and found that Charles Krauthammer, among others, recommended the book, which indicates that it is something that I would probably enjoy reading.

I see why the AJC censored his name - funny!

By finch

March 11, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Somebody was instilling a hatred of anything Islamic or Arabic among Americans, and it sure wasn’t liberal talk show hosts. On the other side, meanwhile, Savage, O’Reilly and Fox News come to mind.

And no matter what fueled the juggernaut, Bush made no effort to stop it until it was too late. Hence the 63-2 vote in the House W&M committee against the Dubai deal. Bush’s silence spoke volumes. Another example of what a lousy leader he is.

By getalife

March 11, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this

From finch’s link:

The truth is that everything the new wave of Bush critics has to say was obvious long ago to any commentator who was willing to look at the facts.

At some point in time, conservatives are going to have to face reality to move on. We should start looking for a leader to clean up the mess.

Hillary was not angry, she was right. Murtha was not unpatriotic, he was right. All W’s critics were right.

We will get it right and clean up the mess.

By RW-(the original)

March 11, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this

finch,

The funny thing about Krugman’s, and I guess your since you use him a source, opinion is that dissatisfaction with Bush’s lack of conservatism is going to push real Conservatives to become Democrats when the truth is exactly the opposite.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

finch,

I give up! The Democrats were the ones who initially jumped on the Dubai ports deal issue, and the Republicans followed suit. It was Schumer who made the most blatantly “anti-Arab” comments, NOT the Bush administration.

And now Bush is responsible for the media too (assuming that you are even right in saying that there is all this “hate-speech” out there in the first place). I don’t listen to Savage, but the others are quite measured on the issue if you ask me.

We’d be fools if we didn’t recognize that there IS a problem with Islamofascism and terrorism and all the horrors that go with it, but I’m not sure what it is exactly that you expect us to say, or not say.

Still waiting for the descriptions of reality that past finch’s muster.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Well the soldiers on the ground in Iraq don’t think Murtha is right, so who are you going to believe.

And what is Hillary right on? Her positions that move to the Left or the Right?

By Midori

March 11, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this

Great toon, Mike.

Last night I watched, “I, Claudius”.

I’d love to see a toon using that documentary as a theme.

So much use of poison - just like this administration.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

RW,

Exactly! Was Harriet Meirs too conservative for conservatives? Not hardly likely.

It’s like those “are you satisfied with the direction the country is moving in” poll questions. They give a false sense of optimism to the Dems, while the reality is that if Republican answer “No” it is because they don’t think that Bush is conservative enough.

By RW-(the original)

March 11, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

It’s not really a bad thing when they delude themselves with polls. It gives them something to live for until reality sets in the first Tuesday in November. After they recover from that they can spin a few conspiracy theories about how the elections must have been stolen and start taking stacked polls again.

With that pleasant thought I’m going out to enjoy some of this beautiful afternoon we have been blessed with.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

Danish!: I thought Conservatives didn’t negotiate with terrorists?-

By Buy Danish March 11, 2006 01:22 PM

I agree that “pinko” is hackneyed

I suppose I owe an explanation, see I figured since the only ideas these stupid POS liberals have had since FDR was the president are-

a- Drill a hole in an unborn baby’s head and suck it’s brains out.

b- Stick their reproductive organ in another man’s digestive tract.

c- Revise history, saying McCarthy was bad and the debauch, degenerate hollywoodies were heros, see George Looney.

So this leaves me with three choices, baby killers, f-ags or pinkos. Obviously, I’ve chosen the least offensive of the three.

If any one would like to name any other ideas the democrats have had in the last 50 years, please, oh please, I would be willing to reconsider my decision.

Until then, blow me, you silly pinkos.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

Poison - is that all?

How could you fail to draw the obvious direct parallels between Bush and Claudius, especially the circumstances of their noble births and inarticulate speech.

It’s a wrap! Bush=Hitler=nazi=fascist=Fall of the Roman Empire. At least it’s something new and different. Quite refreshing. This will be fun.

Of course the scheming Livinia reminds me much more of Hillary than Laura, but that is a minor detail that can be overcome.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

RW,

Enjoy! And don’t forget, “Diebold=Diabolical=Devil”.

By Blackbeard

March 11, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

What happened to that little f-ag Andy. Did he finally tuck his little tally whacker between his legs and run?

By Midori

March 11, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish — fortunately my interpretation of the documentary is the exact opposite of yours.

My use of the term poision is descriptive of the state of politics today in general.

The well has been thoroughly poisioned.

That’s why the Dubai deal sunk like it did.

The administration so thoroughly poisioned the air, now anything remotely associated with Arabs is looked upon with deep suspicion and distrust.

And just who poisioned that air?

And Claudius’ grand mother’s name was Livia. Is that to whom you were referring?

By Blackbeard

March 11, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

RW,

Exactly! Was Harriet Meirs too conservative for conservatives? Not hardly likely.

It’s like those “are you satisfied with the direction the country is moving in” poll questions. They give a false sense of optimism to the Dems, while the reality is that if Republican answer “No” it is because they don’t think that Bush is conservative enough.

Buy Danish, you really are an idiot. Your spin sounds like something straight from a Rushrant. Bush is done. 65% of this country has stuck a fork in him.

By finch

March 11, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this

RW,

“(Democrats think) Bush’s lack of conservatism is going to push real Conservatives to become Democrats when the truth is exactly the opposite.”

I’d rather have that than what’s in the White House now.

Buy Danish,

It was Mike Savage who started the ball rolling on Dubai. Other shrill neoc… I mean right wingers followed like lemmings. Hence the House vote, where Bush’s lack of influence was laid bare.

Schumer, Hillary and other Dems who joined the Dubai bashers were cynical opportunists, and that’s politics.

The claim that soldiers on the ground don’t agree with Murtha is very much open to debate.

It’s a nice day here, too. Later!

By Midori

March 11, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

p.s.

When Claudius went to the Senate to make the case for him being Emperor, and his stutter came up, he replied, “Isn’t it more important of the contents of a man’s words, rather than how long it takes for him to say it?”

Bush is no Claudius.

By DavidU

March 11, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

Speaking of movies; Check out Valley of the Wolves Iraq (in Turkish: Kurtlar Vadisi Irak)

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

Midori,

You are correct, Livinia was from “Titus Adronicus”, a different Roman altogether from Claudius. I have my Roman’s confused.

I still think that you are missing a wonderful opportunity to make the “Bush is an imbecile” connection yet once again. I’m not sure that everyone has gotten that point yet, and it may need reinforcing.

In any case, Hillary is very Livia-esque, IMHO.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Perfect timing, Blackbeard, you stupid POS liberals have yet to get anything right this year. Keep trying.

Just when I thought it couldn’t get anymore intellectually vacant:

By finch March 11, 2006 03:30 PM

More on the people who once supported Bush and who now think he’s lost it. It’s not just George Will and Bill Buckley.

Bruce Bartlett is on Bush because he is not Conservative enough. If Bush governed the way Bartlett wants, there would be no welfare, medicare or social security, he would cut it all out. Do you agree we should eliminate these entitlements, government funded finch?

I guess when your own political party is as lame as finch’s and krugman’s, you have to steal hope from the other guys.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this

finch,

I don’t think Savage has that much influence! I do love how you imply that Hillary and Schumer were following the stampede and not leading it.

They’re all opportunists, but as the Left swung Right, the Right took notice. Unfortunately.

Still patiently awaiting the finch plan on “How do characterize the enemy without unfairly offending anybody”…

By Midori

March 11, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I don’t need to make those connections. Bush does such a fantastic job at doing it himself.

And thank you for the recommendation, David.

I will look into acquiring that movie.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this

You know, I might be making a mistake at 5:45, I’m as-suming that these stupid POS liberals are able to comprehend what Conservatives are saying and that they then slant those thoughts to appear to be in their favor. I bet I’m giving these pinkos too much credit. They hear things like Bush is not doing this right and the libs get all excited, it’s the only thing they are able to understand and they just go with it.

Seriously, all Novak was saying yesterday was that the democrats have a slim chance against the Republicans, the libs went ape with joy. Very telling.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry, we all know who McCain really is:

One activist said, “McCain voted against all the Bush tax cuts… maybe he should have voted for the president then, instead of waiting for a political stunt to try and distract.”

A back stabber? A persom who will never see the White House unless he is invited over for a visit?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this

The Mayor of the City of Atlanta, a liberal democrat, gets **convicted of tax evasion and whose corpse do the stupid POS liberals drag through the street?

A shoplifters?

You’ve got to be kidding me, right?

Maybe this is why Bush got rid of him? Before he broke any laws?

By Midori

March 11, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this

speaking of the content of one’s words

By Midori

March 11, 2006 06:42 PM | Link to this

Hmmmmmmmmmmm……..

It appears that someone is on the verge of spontaneous combustion.

It’s not going to be a pretty sight……….

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this

Oily politics By Thomas Sowell March 11, 2006

So we are left with nothing we can do about the rising demand for oil around the world, nothing we are willing to do about increasing the supply of oil, and angry denunciations of rising oil prices.

The politically correct answer is that we must have “alternative energy sources” and “conservation.” At what cost — in money, in jobs, in constraints on people’s lives — is too crass a question for delicate souls dead-set against producing more oil.

These souls are apparently not so delicate, however, that they are bothered by coal miners killed producing one of those “alternative energy sources” that sound so nice when you don’t count the costs.

Many of the same delicate sensitivities have kept nuclear power plants or hydroelectric dams from being built in the United States for decades. Some in liberal political or media circles talk ominously about the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant “disaster” in which no one was killed, as compared to coal mines, in which lives continue to be lost, year after year.

Meanwhile, the fetishes of a self-congratulatory few, who demonize others as selfish, impose staggering costs on the country as a whole. Facts get nowhere against these fetishes because the fetishes provide a badge of identity for wonderful and special people.

By finch

March 11, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Lately, I’ve been using the word “enemy” to describe Osama or Al Qaeda, but nobody here.

Hey Suck… who was that on the front page of the AJC today? Not the mayor… the former mayor!

Meanwhile, in the AJC, where was the shoplifter, the nominated by President Bush to be a federal judge shoplifter?? Still checking…

And Novak was also detailing where Bush has dropped the ball. Federal spending, Katrina, and Iraq. The mind reels!

Heheeheeheehee…..

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this

Hey Midori, how come when you talk the wankers don’t but when the wankers talk you don’t?

By Midori

March 11, 2006 06:54 PM | Link to this

which “wankers” are you referring to?

the only person I see ranting and raving is you.

please correct me if that’s not true.

I started posting at 4:13, and all I see are your screeching in between.

and don’t start that crap again.

You’ve been doing that for several months now.

You were wrong then, and you’re wrong now.

Not that that has ever stopped you.

By clark

March 11, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

Priest Molesting(raping) children: as long as we don’t know about it until people sue is ok.

Gays adopting and proving homes to children. Oh We are going to Hell if we allow this.

Yep, it makes lots of sense

Boston’s leading Catholic charity, abiding by Vatican teachings that describe same-sex adoptions as “gravely immoral,” said on Friday it would halt adoption services, raising the stakes in a dispute over a state law allowing gays and lesbians to adopt children.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

Lost art of the apology By Victor Davis Hanson March 11, 2006

Former President Jimmy Carter lately has become another international scold. While not offering so many literal apologies, he has made it clear to the world he regrets deeply the transgressions of other Americans — whether for wiretaps or setting up detention facilities at Guantanamo Bay. He rarely mentions the Iranian hostage crisis, double-digit inflation and interest rates, Soviet expansionism, or any of the other lapses on his own watch.

(2) Don’t apologize for the sins of others long past. Mr. Clinton in a few words can hardly atone for centuries of the tragedy that was slavery. He would be better off apologizing for things he could have controlled — such as forbidding vulnerable U.S. forces in Somalia to use tanks or ordering missile strikes against a probable pharmaceutical factory in Sudan.

(5) War is the wrong time to start apologizing. Gen. George Marshall did not tell the Germans in 1943 that we were sorry for previously harassing German Americans in 1917. Nor during the Cuban missile crisis did President Kennedy offer Nikita Khrushchev remorse that we tried to subvert the Russian revolution in 1918-20. There is a proper occasion for voicing collective regret, and wartime is not it.

In the old days, apologies — said once, without an agenda and involving one’s own sins — revealed character. Now too often they reflect just the opposite.

By getalife

March 11, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

From Andy’s link:

“If the allegations are true, Claude Allen did not tell my chief of staff and legal counsel the truth, and that’s deeply disappointing” the president said at the White House following an event on Iraq. “If the [allegations are true, something went wrong in Claude Allen’s life, and that is really sad.”

We feel your pain W.

By Midori

March 11, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

LDSD,

I know that nothing beats a good defense like a good offense, however, I’m not about to allow you to use me as your whipping post and/or the object of suspicion.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this

Hey Midori, you were absolutely right about someone being on the verge of spontaneous combustion:

By Midori

March 11, 2006 06:54 PM

HAHAHAHA!!

By Midori

March 11, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

wasn’t these the guys who promised to appoint to the administration people of the utmost integrity?

People of that caliber certainly can’t be found in the sewer.

By Midori

March 11, 2006 07:07 PM | Link to this

LSAL:

Here, let me help you along

By Midori

March 11, 2006 07:09 PM | Link to this

ummmmmm,

posting a time and date that I asked you a question is a response?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 07:10 PM | Link to this

getalife: You know how many pinkos would be locked up today if shoplifting were as serious a crime as tax evasion? How do you think most stupid POS liberals survive besides sucking off of the successful people of the United States?

Let me guess, you have been cheating your taxes for years so it’s know big deal, right?

finch: The shoplifter is a former Bush aide, since you brought up Campbell being a former Mayor. It’s an ignorant hypothesis anyway, which is not surprising coming from you, Campbell was on trial for acts committed while in office, the shoplifter broke the law when he was out of government.

By getalife

March 11, 2006 07:11 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I seen that shoplifter with W several times and always wondered who he was.

Now I know he is just another criminal.

By Midori

March 11, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

Suck,

you know, you would help yourself as being seen as making a point or a credible argument if you actually made some sense.

By WashingtonState

March 11, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, Cheney has done everything in his power to foster a climate of fear and hatred of Muslims. You should go back and read conservative blogs from the year after September 11. Our President has not made any real effort to stop him. After all, his only remaining perceived strength is in protecting us from those very same feared and hated Muslims. Every discussion about preventing terrorism walks perilously close to the line of discriminating against Muslims. The administration has encouraged this paranoia because it is their only connection with the majority of Americans. Their are some legitimate issues, such as how realistic is it to use “profiles” in deciding how to best protect our country from terrorism, but if you read through any conservative blog, I think you will find the consistent message is that all Muslims are suspect. It is a message that has been implictly encouraged by our present administration in a futile attempt to shore up an unpopular president’s ratings.

By Midori

March 11, 2006 07:15 PM | Link to this

Hey Suck, how come when you talk you don’t make any sense, don’t but when others talk they do?

By Midori

March 11, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this

It appears that all Suck is interested in is playing mindless games, and then trying to pass it off onto others.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 07:34 PM | Link to this

America Duped Into Economic Pessimissm

Missing The Boom Posted 3/10/2006

Economy: With rising incomes, soaring wealth, bigger and better homes, plenty of jobs and low inflation, we may be living in the most prosperous time ever. Yet chances are you don’t believe it one bit.

The economy isn’t perfect, of course. But it’s a long way from bad — a long, long way. We ponder this as a new employment report comes out, showing 243,000 new payroll jobs in February even as the number of people re-entering the labor market swelled by nearly 350,000.

So before the data are spun beyond recognition by others, let’s recount the good news: Since May 2003, when President Bush’s tax cuts became law, the U.S. has created 4.7 million jobs. Payrolls have now expanded for 30 straight months. The jobless rate, though up a tick at 4.8%, is still near its five-year low.

Investors Business Daily

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 07:36 PM | Link to this

Why the gloom? Much of it, no doubt, stems from misreporting by the media. Against the backdrop of surging payrolls, for example, we keep seeing story after story, in print and on TV, about job “losses.”

A recent study by the Media Research Center bears this out. It looked at TV news coverage of jobs in 2005 — 151 stories in all — carried on all three major networks.

This, mind you, was a year that saw the creation of 2 million new jobs, the addition of $350 billion to gross domestic product and an increase of $2 trillion in the value of household financial assets.Yet more than half of the networks’ job reports focused on losses, not gains — a picture that wasn’t just distorted, but wrong.

Americans deserve better. In fact, they may already know better. The same polls, including ours, in which Americans indicate they are down on the economy in general also show they are upbeat about their own financial situation.

This, more than anything else, may indicate that Americans are being influenced too much by mainstream media outlets that would rather be wrong than acknowledge that an economic boom is under way.

By DavidU

March 11, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this

Liberals S&L - The gloom and pessimism is from those that don’t read or subscribe to “Investors Business Daily”.

By finch

March 11, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this

Sucks, you are SO lame.

Claude “Sticky Fingers” Allen resigned from the White House February 9th. He was arrested for, among other things, crimes committed in January. So he was workin for Bush during his alleged scams.

You lose.

Anyone see Cal Thomas, that great conservative columnist on Fox “Newswatch” tonight? Cal (bless his heart!) talked about his chat with some soldiers on leave from Iraq who told him they think Iraq isn’t winnable.

Another Bush groupie jumps ship.

By SS&S

March 11, 2006 08:19 PM | Link to this

WS - Cheney and the administration have had unsolicited help. A main course with dessert

By finch

March 11, 2006 08:26 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

There’s a reason why Americans have grim forebodings about the economy, despite the blue smoke and mirrors numbers from IBD and WSJ.

Real family income in the US is dropping. People are spending more than they’re saving. Energy costs more as big oil profits skyrocket. The 2nd mortgage bailout of consumer debt is turning into a trapdoor as adjustible mortgage payments increase. Solid middle class positions are being replaced by minimum wage jobs as work is outsourced. Trumpet all the stats you want about lower unemployment, rising overall income, and so on… it can’t mask reality.

Average Americans are looking in their wallets, seeing moths fly out, and asking themselves, “Are we better off then we were 5 years ago? 3 years ago?”

And the answer is no. Personal experience trumps egghead statistics every time.

By getalife

March 11, 2006 08:31 PM | Link to this

Another one resigns

Another Jack victim?

By Liberals Suck And Discriminate

March 11, 2006 08:33 PM | Link to this

Shoplifting: A crime that a pinko can sink his teeth into. They don’t have time for tax evasion.

The slim to none hope that we, I’m sorry, that the United States loses in Iraq: The only thing that will get a stupid POS liberal interested in American foreign policy. But only if we, oops, the United States loses.

Cheer against your country. Real nice.

By DavidU

March 11, 2006 08:41 PM | Link to this

Finch- exactly (I agree), regular people, average Americans……you know the majority of people in the US, who don’t subscribe to IBD. The one’s that have to wait around hoping a theory like “trickle down economics” actually works when we have a deficit. They are the one’s that see and live the gloom that this article debates.

By WashingtonState

March 11, 2006 08:42 PM | Link to this

SS&S,

The difference is that those people are clearly whacko, while the administration, for better or worse, is mainstream.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 08:46 PM | Link to this

The only people that aren’t rolling it up in this economy must be financial failures. It’s a shame that these stupid POS liberals want to drag everyone down with them. It’s a jealousy issue, they are too ignorant to manage their own affairs, they want you to fail like them.

Of course, by the way, Investors Business Daily and the Wall Street Journal no nothing about economics, if finch says the bottom is falling out then the experts must be lying.

Right on, moonbat.

By WashingtonState

March 11, 2006 08:47 PM | Link to this

Suck,

You might have a point there. If we lose in Iraq, we could devote our resources to defeating terrorism rather than squandering them acting as policemen in a civil war where we are clearly not wanted. But that is a stretch. In the meantime, we are stuck in Iraq without a graceful exit in sight because Wolfowitz wanted permanent bases in the Persian Gulf and sold his crazed dream to Bush.

By DavidU

March 11, 2006 08:55 PM | Link to this

Bolivian leader Evo Morales…gave Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice a traditional Bolivian Indian musical instrument called a charango…covered with bright green coca leaves…..Rice gamely strummed the instrument for a moment and posed with it for a Chilean television camera. U.S. officials were checking with Customs, but it’s not clear whether Rice can legally bring the instrument into the United States…..Also on hand was the South American leader who most vexes Washington, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez….He and Rice were seated far apart at the ceremony at the Chilean Congress building.

Can you say Awkward? Condoleezza, a Socialist party, a present made out of coca, and Chavez. All they needed was Castro to make an appearance and it would have been one of those “a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar” type of jokes in the making.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 08:58 PM | Link to this

WS: Maybe you are able to translate the things that the British and Americans say about withdrawing troops through 2007 better than I can. I always thought that it meant we would turn the protection of the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi army. I considered this to be an awesome victory considering that most of the fighting was done against people like you.

I had no idea that the proposed withdrawal in 2007 would be the troops fleeing in terror, jumping into the ocean and swimming home. How were you able to uncover this plot with so little information? Are you like a secret pinko agent?

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 09:05 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Okay, at 6:21 you post a link entitled “speaking of the content of one’s words” which takes us to a comedian playing Bush. Are we’re supposed to think that that’s really Bush? Or if not that, your point is….??

You’ve completely lost me, but it is refreshing to get something from you other than exclusively: HAHAHAHAHAObscenityHAHAHAHAHAonbscenityHAHAHAHABUSHISDUNCE for a change.

By WashingtonState

March 11, 2006 09:10 PM | Link to this

Suck, Your leaps of rhetoric defy logic. I wasn’t addressing my post to you, but to the other “suck.” But since you are addressing me, I will reply. Only a handful of the truly blind believe that Iraq will be capable of handling its own security by 2007. Read what our soldiers are saying about the combat readiness of Iraqi troops. Stop getting your news from right wing blogs. As for troops fleeing in terror, jumping into the ocean, and swimming home, I think you might have been hitting the weed a little heavy tonight. And by the way, your posts would be considered spam on most blogs. I saw one stretch where you must have posted over a dozen posts in a row without a respone.

By Midori

March 11, 2006 09:14 PM | Link to this

of course that isn’t Bush.

If you thought it was, well, um…….

I just thought it was a pretty funny parody, and wanted to share with like-minded.

You ok?

By Midori

March 11, 2006 09:15 PM | Link to this

it seems as if my HAHAHAHAHAObscenityHAHAHAHAHAonbscenityHAHAHAHABUSHISDUNCE

makes a lot more sense of your nonsensical conclusions.

Better luck next time.

By Midori

March 11, 2006 09:23 PM | Link to this

I suppose you can vouch for the authenticity of this photo, too

oh yeah: HAHAHAHAHAObscenityHAHAHAHAHAonbscenityHAHAHAHABUSHISDUNCE

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 11, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this

WS: Of course I bow to your popularity, with out your insight and wisdom this blog would be nothing.

What other suck?

I’m sure you are more informed than the State Department, The British Government and the Iraqis but I’m going to go out on a limb and believe what they have to say about the future of the Iraqi democracy. Call me a fool if you must.

By finch

March 11, 2006 09:25 PM | Link to this

“the proposed withdrawal in 2007…”

What? Bush hasn’t set a date.

Bush’s opposition to any kind of timetable has been repeated over and over andoverandover…

And even if he had set a timetable, Bush couldn’t keep a promise if he were welded to it.

Maybe you’re confused. Like Bush was on May 3, 2003 when he said in his weekly radio address that the mission had been accomplished and “major combat operations in Iraq have ended.”

What are you drinking anyway, Sucks?

By WashingtonState

March 11, 2006 09:28 PM | Link to this

Unless you are posting under two names, liberals suck and discrimate was the poster I was replying to. I don’t like to call people names, but if you insist, you are a fool.

By finch

March 11, 2006 09:31 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Your photos are priceless!

And here I thought “the emperor has no clothes” was just a figure of speech!

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this

Washington State AKA Clueless in Seattle and finch,

Okay, finch will go so far as to use the “enemy” word. Wow. That’s a big help for national security and war strategy. I can sleep well tonite knowing that there is some sort of enemy out there, but it cannot be described because that might hurt someones feelings.

Clueless:

You make me want to RALPH! Cheney has fostered a “climate of fear an hatred of Muslims”. MAYBE BIN LADEN AND AL QUEDA HAD JUST A LITTLE BIT TO DO WITH IT?

I’m sorry, but I can’t even try to be polite to you. Who the hell do you think attacked us, and among other things, attacked Spain, attacked London, attacked Bali, slaughter in Iraq, slaughtered school children in a gymnasium in Chechnya, rioted in France, murdered Theo Van Gogh, and had a multi-country rampage of death and destruction over….CARTOONS?

PAT ROBERTSON?

By Jay not jay

March 11, 2006 09:34 PM | Link to this

Midori, that picture is freaking funny! Do you have some of those x-ray glasses also?

finch, what is the advantage of setting “a date”?

By Liberals Suck, Cheat And Lie

March 11, 2006 09:42 PM | Link to this

WS: Gosh, it is a conicidence that two people have the name Liberals Suck. Go figure, now there’s three of us.

UK troops plan Iraqi pullout by mid-2008 -general

I wonder why? Will they be thoroughly defeated by then?

U.S. Starts Laying Groundwork for Significant Troop Pullout From Iraq

In a departure from previous statements, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said this week that the training of Iraqi soldiers had advanced so far that the current number of U.S. troops in the country probably would not be needed much longer.

The developments seemed to lay the groundwork for potentially large withdrawals in 2006 and 2007, consistent with scenarios outlined by Pentagon planners. The approach also tracks the thinking of some centrist Democrats, such as Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, the senior representative of his party on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

It’s a lie! It can’t be! finch didn’t say it, it’s not true!

By Midori

March 11, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this

Jay,

Fiore did a parody on that (the x-ray glasses).

I’ll see if I can find it.

In the meantime, I must admit that no, I don’t have x-ray glasses.

don’t need them.

Reality is a friend of mine.

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 09:48 PM | Link to this

finch,

Still waiting for a description slightly more detailed than “The Enemy”.

Maybe you and Clueless in Seattle can huddle together and come up with something.

By Midori

March 11, 2006 10:01 PM | Link to this

Jay,

[couldn’t find Fiore, but here is a link/site dedicated to using x-ray glasses] (http://www.goyk.com/flash.asp?path=221)

By Jay not jay

March 11, 2006 10:06 PM | Link to this

Here they are, x-ray glasses

By Buy Danish

March 11, 2006 10:20 PM | Link to this

Midori,

If your posts lead me to come to non-sensical conclusions, then perhaps it is because your posts are non-sensical?

By finch

March 11, 2006 10:31 PM | Link to this

Jnj, there is no advantage to setting a date. Since the US is in Iraq, I would oppose setting a date. I was responding to Sucks’ declaration that a date had been set.

Suck offers this to buttress his argument:

“The developments seemed to lay the groundwork for potentially large withdrawals in 2006 and 2007”

“seemed to”? “lay the groundwork”? “potentially?” There are more equivocations in that one sentence than you’ll find in a tentful of fortune tellers. I really think Sucks should drink less…

Buy Danish - Your 9:33 post echoes the declarations of right wing politicians and radio talkers that doomed the Dubai deal (a deal that both Jimmy Carter and Rush Limbaugh agreed was a pretty good one). Declarations that went unchallenged by the White House.

It hasn’t been liberals or Democrats fanning the Muslim-bashing flames. It’s been Bush Republicans, who seem to have forgotten that only a handful of the world’s 1.1 billion Muslims want to kill us.

By Reality

March 11, 2006 10:34 PM | Link to this

Great cartoon, Mike!

I see Buy Danish, Andy, RW, and the other members of the Flat Earth Society still have no lives.

By WashingtonState

March 11, 2006 10:42 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

You can’t have it both ways. Either Bush is right in saying that not all Muslims are our enemies or you are totally wrong in saying they are. Make up your mind.

By Jay not jay

March 11, 2006 10:43 PM | Link to this

finch, I agree with your date part, but I can’t say that anyone is declaring that any “date” has been set.

By finch

March 11, 2006 10:46 PM | Link to this

It turns out the Bush administration’s “3 Stooges”, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz once endorsed selling nuclear technology to Iran!

I’m shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

Amusingly enough, Sure-shot, Dickie and Wolfie dismissed arguments back then that, since Iran was floating on a sea of oil, it needed nuclear energy about as much as Egypt needs sand.

That’s a solid argument today. Why did “The 3 Stooges” choose to dismiss it back then?

By finch

March 11, 2006 11:00 PM | Link to this

Here’s another “but that was then, and this is now” moment.

Vice President Dick “Sure Shot” Cheney once strongly cautioned against foreign entanglements.

“You also need to know what constitutes victory. How would you define it? How would you know when you had achieved it? And finally, how do you get out? What’s the end game? How do you wrap it all up? And what’s the cost in terms of American lives in that involvement?”

And here I always thought you got smarter as you got older!

By RW-(the original)

March 11, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

finch,

I hadn’t planned to post here tonight, but since “warped sense of reality” thinks I’ve been here anyway I’ll take a shot at your time machine scenario.

In 1974 they could probably see the coming oil shortage and knew that if we could allow a peaceful Iran to have this technology we would in turn have an ample supply of oil. I think we can probably agree that Iran circa 1974 was a much different place than Iran today. It was one of the few things they thought could get Gerald Ford elected for once. (It’s quite a small club of people that have been VP and President and not been elected to either.)

In hindsight nothing could be done to get Ford elected. The only hope then was that Carter wouldn’t turn Iran into such an out and out disaster.

Why do you (and this time I mean you) and others of your political persuasion make such good use of hindsight and very rarely offer any foresight?

By Jay not jay

March 11, 2006 11:10 PM | Link to this

according to: According to Washington Post Staff Writer Dafna Linzer, “Ford’s team endorsed Iranian plans to build a massive nuclear energy industry- Whoa, stop the presses, Linzer speaks.. They are on Iran’s side!

By WashingtonState

March 11, 2006 11:11 PM | Link to this

It is interesting to see the clash of the free market philosophy with the fear that the Bush administration has generated in order to keep the administration from being totally overwhelmed by anti-Bush sentiment. The upcoming elections should be very interesting. Buy Danish echoes the conflicting emotions that many Americans feel. Which path that the spin machine has laid out should I follow? Or should I just recognize that I have been had and vote for someone else?

By WashingtonState

March 11, 2006 11:15 PM | Link to this

RW,

I don’t disagree with you, but you are showing us the paradox that is America. Should we do what is right or what is politically expedient? I haven’t been able to answer that question for myself because it is one of those grey areas that many people seem to deny exists.

By RW-(the original)

March 11, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this

Washington State,

I’m only offering a possible reason for the thought processes in 1974. I’m in no way saying it was simply the politically expedient thing to do. Had we done it world events may have drastically changed, but I don’t go back and pretend that someone should have known all the ramifications of anything in advance. That is an impossible standard to hold anyone other than a world dictator to.

By WashingtonState

March 11, 2006 11:28 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, It certainly wasn’t the Iraqis who committed the atrocities you cite, but for some reason, that is where we are fighting. My quote of the day a couple of days ago: “Many speeches ago, President Bush made famous the phrase “axis of evil.” He used it to describe three countries that posed a grave threat to the United States - one that has nuclear weapons, one that has developed the means to make nuclear weapons and one that had an evil dictator who occasionally had fantasies about some day acquiring the bomb. Guess which one we invaded?” Dennis Jett

Are you starting to see a pattern in all this or are you still supporting Bush in all he does?

By WashingtonState

March 11, 2006 11:32 PM | Link to this

RW,

Handing nuclear capabilities to any country would fall under my definition of political expediencey. I can see no other reason for doing so.

By RW-(the original)

March 11, 2006 11:41 PM | Link to this

Washington State,

OK

By SS&S

March 12, 2006 06:24 AM | Link to this

finch - You really do work overtime to defend your arguments. The problem is that your focus is on the administration when it should be on the individual.

I refer to your 8:26 p.m. post last night:

Real family income in the US is dropping. People are spending more than they’re saving.

You would have us believe that when given the opportunity of tax cuts, the administration should force people to be financially responsible and invest in the opportunity. I see this as a missed opportunity by the individual. But then I can think for myself.

Energy costs more as big oil profits skyrocket.

This could, and should, have been addressed many administrations ago, but the enviro-kooks who are supported by the liberal faction of the democratic party keep throwing up obstacles. Thank you finch and comrades.

The 2nd mortgage bailout of consumer debt is turning into a trapdoor as adjustible mortgage payments increase.

Were these individuals forced to make the choice of adjustable rate mortgages or could they have been wiser when making their decisions. But wait….they couldn’t think responsibly….they had never been given such a great opportunity under democratic leadership.

Solid middle class positions are being replaced by minimum wage jobs as work is outsourced.

You’re a union guy, right? That automatically makes you anti-big business (capitalism & free enterprise.) So basically, you contribute to this outsourcing of opportunity. Shame on you.

Expand your thought process beyond supporting your arguments which allows you to always be right. If not, you’ll miss out. You will always see the government as your provider. The liberals want what is yours so they can implement social engineering to secure votes and, you fall victim to this scam.

It doesn’t matter who links to what. The truly independent thinker can wade through the nuance to reach solid ground. But you just keep treading water!!!!

By SS&S

March 12, 2006 06:32 AM | Link to this

finch - BTW, I won’t be posting much today. I’ll be working outside to maintain my property which I own free and clear of debt.

The once liberal Supreme Court has even placed that in jeopardy with their “eminent domain” ruling. Dam-n those liberals…always looking to protect me from myself.

By SS&S

March 12, 2006 06:52 AM | Link to this

finch - Another BTW. I can also pick apart your 11:00 link to the Cheney interview, but then I’ll be busy today maintaining what is mine.

Maybe at another opportunity. I hate to drag yesterday into today. Somebody on this site once said that you were too smart to be a democrat. I’m beginning to wonder!!!

By finch

March 12, 2006 06:54 AM | Link to this

SS&S

Well, we all know that the stock market crash of 1929 and the resulting 12 year Great Depression had nothing to do with greedy, short-sighted business practices and lax government oversight and everything to do with lack of planning, bad judgement, and downright laziness among the little people.

I’m not sure I get your Supreme Court reference. Wasn’t it the conservatives who decided to legalize eminent domain for private development? No matter. We agree that this decision was a very bad call.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 12, 2006 07:38 AM | Link to this

I’ll help: I’m not sure I get your Supreme Court reference. Wasn’t it the conservatives who decided to legalize eminent domain for private development? I’m pretty sure he is refering to Kelo which was 5 pinko- 4 Conservative. I’m sure you’ll ignore that fact and call it a Conservative decision, the truth rarely deters a stupid POS liberal.

And also by the way, since your only hope of proving your point is to cherry pick the words of Conservatives until you find something that can be twisted in your favor, allow me to repost the entire column, sans any quick link:

By the Los Angeles Times- U.S. Starts Laying Groundwork for Significant Troop Pullout From Iraq- by Paul Richter and Tyler Marshall

WASHINGTON — Even as debate over the Iraq war continues to rage, signs are emerging of a convergence of opinion on how the Bush administration might begin to exit the conflict.

In a departure from previous statements, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said this week that the training of Iraqi soldiers had advanced so far that the current number of U.S. troops in the country probably would not be needed much longer.

The administration’s pivot on the issue comes as the White House is seeking to relieve enormous pressure by war opponents. The camp includes liberals, moderates and old-line conservatives who are uneasy with the costly and uncertain nation-building effort.

It also follows agreement this week among Iraqi politicians that the U.S. troop presence ought to decrease. In private conversations, Iraqi officials discussed a possible two-year withdrawal period, analysts said.

The developments seemed to lay the groundwork for potentially large withdrawals in 2006 and 2007, consistent with scenarios outlined by Pentagon planners. The approach also tracks the thinking of some centrist Democrats, such as Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, the senior representative of his party on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Some analysts say the emerging consensus might have less to do with conditions in Iraq than the deployment’s long-term strain on the U.S. military. And major questions about the readiness of Iraq’s fledgling security forces remain, posing risks for any strategy that calls for an accelerated American withdrawal.

As recently as late September, senior U.S. military commanders said during a congressional hearing that just one Iraqi battalion, about 700 soldiers, was considered capable of undertaking combat operations fully independent of U.S. support. Administration officials now dismiss that measure of readiness, saying more Iraqi units are able to conduct advanced operations each day.

A former top Pentagon official who served during Bush’s first term said he believed there was a “growing consensus” on withdrawing about 40,000 troops before next year’s congressional election. That would be followed by further substantial pullouts in 2007 if it became clear that Iraqi forces could contain the insurgency.

“You’ve got the convergence of domestic pressures, Iraqi pressures and Pentagon [withdrawal] plans that have been in the works for a while,” said the former official, who requested anonymity. “This is serious.”

A senior U.S. official said that in signaling hopes for a large drawdown next year, Rice was only “stating the obvious” this week.

By Real Conservatives Aren't Republican

March 12, 2006 07:40 AM | Link to this

Look at all the pathetic lemmings trying so desperately to convince us that our standard of living both in terms of earnings and personal freedoms hasn’t withered away under “Chimpy the Magnificent”. If you ask yourself the question, “Are my children better off today than they were 5 years ago?”, and you honestly answer “Yes”- then vote for the “party of lies and corruption”. If you answer, “No”, then join me at the polls to kick these imposters out. The great party of Ronald Reagan (author of the question) has given over to demagoguery and despotism. Genuine conservatives are not interested in exponentially expanding our national debt to the degree that our children’s children’s children won’t be able to pay it off. They are, also, not intersted in legislating our personal freedoms away. We have been fooled by Republican puffery for far too long; It’s time for a change!

By DavidU

March 12, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

Liberals S&L - Will you read it out loud to us too? Please!!!

By Objective Observer

March 12, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

LS&L:

Based on what I have read, I will assume that my offer to help is no longer needed.

Please offer an obscured response so as not to encourage but inform.

R.W.:

Thanks for the Dylan. I’m smiling!!!

By getalife

March 12, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this

Great minds think alike

By Buy Danish

March 12, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this

Clueless,

Let’s review your statements:

By WashingtonState

March 11, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, Cheney has done everything in his power to foster a climate of fear and hatred of Muslims. You should go back and read conservative blogs from the year after September 11. Our President has not made any real effort to stop him. After all, his only remaining perceived strength is in protecting us from those very same feared and hated Muslims. Every discussion about preventing terrorism walks perilously close to the line of discriminating against Muslims. The administration has encouraged this paranoia because it is their only connection with the majority of Americans. Their are some legitimate issues, such as how realistic is it to use “profiles” in deciding how to best protect our country from terrorism, but if you read through any conservative blog, I think you will find the consistent message is that all Muslims are suspect. It is a message that has been implictly encouraged by our present administration in a futile attempt to shore up an unpopular president’s ratings.

Later you said, You can’t have it both ways. Either Bush is right in saying that not all Muslims are our enemies or you are totally wrong in saying they are. Make up your mind.

Show me ONE statement that Cheney or Bush made to support your wild accusations. There has been no demagoguery from this administration. They have repeated the “Islam is a religion of peace” line ad nauseum, and they call it a “War on Terror” which is bland and “unoffensive” a label as you can get.

The American people know what happened on 9/11; they know what happened for decades prior to 9/11; they know what events have occured since 9/11. We do not need talk radio hosts or bloggers or anyone else to define it for us, and we do not blame all muslims. Believe it or not, most of us are capable of discernment, and are not so ignorant as to scapegoat an entire religion or region. I wish that the same could be said for your side and the all-encompassing bigotry that you have for Conservatives.

Unlike you, I can correctly identify the enemy (and it is not just Osama Bin Laden as finch claims), nor is it George Bush, Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld.

For you to claim that the administration encourages anti-muslim demagoguery to keep their poll numbers up is a vile and unfounded accusation, and if anyone is paranoid, it seems to me that that would be YOU.

You want everything laid out in p.c. terms that are so rigid that it is impossible to have a discussion without your claiming that there is some sort of muslim-bashing and discrimiation going on.

Your side refuses to put the blame where it lies, which is in the lap of radical Islam. Your side has decided that “neocons” or “Christinas” are the enemy and all your energies are directed at defeating them.

It doesn’t matter how much evidence there is to support why we are in Iraq, your side dismisses it all as a “Bush lie”. You’re willing to let UN resolutions mean diddly squat, let dictators who threaten their neighbors remain in power. Yoy hope for a civil war in Iraq so you can claim a personal victory. You ignore the presense of Zarqawi in Iraq. You ignore the historical alliance that Hussein had with terrorists, including the martyr money that he doled out like candy to Palestian suicide bombers. You inflame the muslim world by encouraging propaganda that blames the US for 9/11, and then turn around and say that Bush didn’t “connect the dots” and that HE is fomenting fear and hatred.

You want the American people to entrust your side with National Security?

HA!

By Buy Danish

March 12, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

finch,

You brought up the 1929 depression because……???

Real conservatives aren’t republicans,

So, what’s your plan?

By JJG

March 12, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

To: Real conservatives aren’t People The great party of Ronald Reagan?!!! MYGOD! And I used to think it was the party of Lincoln! Reagan was a buffoon and the first in a now long line of gutless, war-promoting GOP chickenhawks who “conserved” nothing. Under his “leadership” he doubled the national debt, as a percentage of the economy, before Clinton was able to bring it back under control. Reagan vetoed Congress’s passed sanctions against the apartheid government of South Africa. His administration cuddled up with the fascists in Argentina and backed militaries in El Salvador and Guatemala that massacred civilians. He tried to normalize relations with the beloved tyrant Augusto Pinochet. He sent King George the First to the Philippines, where the VP toasted dictator Ferdinand Marcos for fostering “democracy.” And, of course, there were his beloved Contras in Nicaragua, which he paid for in part by selling illegal arms to Iran, of all f**king places! His Attorney General, Edwin Meese, openly had little use for civil liberties, saying, “You don’t have many suspects who are innocent of a crime.” His Interior Secretary, James Watt, was easily the worst ever and gave rise to the new Republican hatred of all things green, clean or living. And Ronnie’s inaction and bigotry against gays is well documented. No wonder hate speech and hate think is so rampant on the far right now! He absolutely “created the conditions which made possible the crimes committed by others” and his administration is memorable for a widespread lack of ethical standards. He weakened workplace safety standards. He presided over an S&L scandal that stuck taxpayers with a bill approaching a trillion dollars and he tried to gut the Civil Rights Commission. He was also the first to openly suck up to the Christian madmen in this country. But the most disturbing thing to me was watching so many young people buying into his horseshit. So now, to paraphrase a famous quote from the 60s, “Don’t trust any one under 30!” And now castoff goons from his era (Rumsfeld, Cheney, et al)are still royally screwing this nation up!!! So PLEASE, pull your head out of the sand and spare us your mis-guided crap about this guy!

By WashingtonState

March 12, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Cheney has been touring the country claiming that Iraq was responsible for September 11th. Most Americans have fallen for it. Unfortunately, the underlying message is that “they” are all in it together. As for the “PC” crap, that is all in your head. I have no trouble with realistic use of profiles to determine who to search. You don’t know me and the assumptions you make about how I think are ludicrous. The only side I am on is the one that will get rid of this administration. I obviously know how to hit a nerve and find weak spots in that carefully constructed shell you have built around yourself.

“I’m sorry, but I can’t even try to be polite to you. Who the hell do you think attacked us, and among other things, attacked Spain, attacked London, attacked Bali, slaughter in Iraq, slaughtered school children in a gymnasium in Chechnya, rioted in France, murdered Theo Van Gogh, and had a multi-country rampage of death and destruction over….CARTOONS?”

That is you talking about Muslims. Not extremist Muslims, but Muslims.

By Buy Danish

March 12, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

Clueless,

Hmmmm. Who is “foster(ing) a climate of fear and hatred?” I don’t see any mention of the Bush Administration here. :

For Muslim Who Says Violence Destroys Islam, Violent Threats

Dr. Sultan said the world was not witnessing a clash of religions or cultures, but a battle between modernity and barbarism, a battle that the forces of violent, reactionary Islam are destined to lose.

In response, clerics throughout the Muslim world have condemned her, and her telephone answering machine has filled with dark threats. But Islamic reformers have praised her for saying out loud, in Arabic and on the most widely seen television network in the Arab world, what few Muslims dare to say even in private.

By Buy Danish

March 12, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

That is you talking about Muslims. Not extremist Muslims, but Muslims

Clueless,

If you think that these attacks are by non-radical muslims, then it is you who are lumping all muslims in with the Islamofascists.

I know the difference and most Americans know the difference, but apparently you don’t!

By Bill Kibble

March 12, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

Good morning Mike,

I loved your “How could anyone…” cartoon in Sunday’s Idaho Statesman. Keep up the great work. You don’t hear much about Osama bin “Forgotten” anymore.

Bill Kibble Boise, Idaho

By Joe Roman

March 12, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

JJG should be given the Post of the Day award for a masterful job of tying the Reagan myth into the Bush myth. The old Lincoln saying about fooling the people is as true today as ever. Unfortunately, it appears you can fool 51% of the people for up to eight years at a stretch. Longer, if you happen to work for most mainstream media sources. Maybe they’ve been bought off, maybe they can’t pass up the opportunity to be self-righteous or maybe they’ve just taken advantage of their cherished benefits packages and gotten elective lobotomies. Whatever the case, many editorials in the last week have been as politically tone deaf as the Bush administration on this Dubai ports deal. Bush got a huge assist from the mainstream media in his post 9/11 fearmongering, and they bought into the absurd concept of the “War on Terror” enmasse with out a thought. If reaction to 9/11 had been a war on al Qaida and a call for courage and properly vented anger, the Dubai deal would have sailed through without a peep. Instead, with history as it was deliberately constructed, the ports deal rubbed the people’s noses in the very same snake oil they’ve been fed since 9/11. In otherwords, after all the “you’re with us or against us” crap we’ve heard relentlessly, the detention without due process of anyone who has ever heard of Allah and nodding and winking over torture, what the hell does Bush and press expect from the public? I’ll bet there are many citizens of this country who are just a few more accusitory words away from a Judeo-Christian version of the cartoon riots. Calling the pubic racist because they won’t support this Dubai deal is dispicible.

By WashingtonState

March 12, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Maybe it was a misunderstanding, but if you go back and read that post, it was in response to a post pointing out how Americans have become polarized against all Muslims. You jumped in with that statement. In that context, you seemed to be supporting the notion that Muslims, not radical Muslims, were responsible for all those atrocities.

Bush has been very careful to give the message that we are not in a war with all Muslims. Not so others in his administration. While Cheney was tieing Iraq to September 11, Bush was consistently denying it. The end result is that most people believe Iraq was responsible for September 11th. There are more blatant examples, but that one alone should suffice for any thinking person. Confusing messages like that serve the purpose of creating fear. The end result is debacles like Dubai.

By WashingtonState

March 12, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

You may know the difference, but you are in the minority.

By Buy Danish

March 12, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

More figments of the imagination,lacking any foundation in reality:

detention without due process of anyone who has ever heard of Allah

I’ll bet there are many citizens of this country who are just a few more accusitory words away from a Judeo-Christian version of the cartoon riotts

By getalife

March 12, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this

There is a new religion and I like it

They say the who cares generation has a short attention span.

Maybe, they are just stoned.

By Buy Danish

March 12, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Bush has been very careful to give the message that we are not in a war with all Muslims

Thank you. Can we stop with this nonsense that the administration is encouraging the hatred of Muslims? The only hatred that I’m seeing comes from the Left, and it is all directed at the “Neo-Cons” while giving radical Islamists a pass by blaming America for their actions.

And as far as Cheney goes, if he is linking Al Qaeda to Iraq a concept that has its merits what does that have to do with fostering an anti-Muslim climate?

I hope that you are not relying too much on the 9/11 commissions findings to determine if there was or was not an Iraq/Al Qaeda link. See Able Danger…

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I bet you that if that sign would have been religious instead of mocking religion every part of that case would have been decided differently.

By WashingtonState

March 12, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

Joe Roman,

Good post. I remember browsing the conservative blogs just last year and running across uncountable racist comments about “ragheads” and turning Iraq into a “sea of glass” with a nuclear bomb. Now these same people are trying to make us think they have acted in a reasonable and responsible manner. I think it all goes back to Wolfowitz and his group, who have wanted a permanent Persian Gulf military presence since before the president was even elected. In their efforts to justify invading Iraq, they have created the present climate. Nothing succeeds like excess.

By WashingtonState

March 12, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Among other things, I am relying on President Bush, who repeatedly has said that Iraq and September 11th were not linked. Of course, his VP was saying exactly the opposite during this whole time. Confusing? You bet. Deliberate? Does this administration do much that isn’t planned when it comes to p.r.?

By WashingtonState

March 12, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Your lifting one sentence out of context from my message is a good example of what I call “cherry picking.” It seems to be the favorite way of conducting discussions on this forum. Pick out a piece of evidence that supports your point of view and ignore the rest. Both sides seem to favor this method. The other way is to look at all the evidence, both pro and con, and come to a reasonable conclusion that explains the whole mass of evidence, rather than looking at small pieces in isolation.

By WashingtonState

March 12, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

How quickly you forget Bush’s comments about a modern “crusade.” Fortunately, they got a new speech writer when they realized that that was too blatant. Now it has become a “holy war.” Read some of the stuff coming from the religious right, to whom Bush claims a special connection, and tell me it is not anti-muslim. We are engaged in a war on terror. Bush sidetracked that into a war on Iraq.

By getalife

March 12, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

RW,

I will not take that bet but I will pimp my blog

By WashingtonState

March 12, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

I am off to shred some powder (ski for you folks in Atlanta) and get rid of some of this caffeine. Later.

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

Washington State,

When you get back from cutting up that kilo (shredding powder for you folks in Seattle) how about giving us a listing of these conservative blogs where everybody talks the way you describe and especially the ones where Cheney writes?

By finch

March 12, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

Washington State,

It wasn’t just the right wing blogosphere that stereotyped Muslims as no-conscience killers who wanted the US, Israel, and all Christians dead. It was right wing pundits like O’Reilly, Hannity, Savage…

And Ann Coulter.

“As my regular readers know, I’ve long been skeptical of the “Religion of Peace” moniker for Muslims — for at least 3,000 reasons right off the top of my head.”

While President Bush was giving lip service to the concept of “tolerance” towards Islam, his supporters in the right-wing media were gleefully stereotyping Muslims as homicidal maniacs. Significantly, not once did the White House suggest that they “tone it down”.

The chickens are coming home to roost. The furor over the Dubai deal is just a preview.

By getalife

March 12, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this

Ann Coulter hate?

A trip down memory lane. Looking forward to her next article.

By finch

March 12, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this

getalife,

It’s not just Coulter & Co. Right wing blogs revel in Islamo-phobia, which the Bush administration and it’s supporters seem loathe to question.

Have a look at some of today’s posts on a popular Conservative blog.

Luicianne.

Not to get all Biblical here, but as ye sow, so shall ye reap.

By Buy Danish

March 12, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this

Clueless,

What out of context sentence are you compaining about? This one - Bush has been very careful to give the message that we are not in a war with all Muslims?

Other than that sentence, and an earlier statement where you said that you favored profiling, everything that you have said either explicitly or implicitly states that the Bush Administration have been fanning flames of anti-Muslim hatred, which is a CROCK.

You claim that Cheney is encouraging anti-Muslim sentiment because he doesn’t discount the possibility that there was a relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Sorry, but I’m missing the anti-muslim part of this.

By getalife

March 12, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

I like this one:

America hating hippies of the 60’s joined the MSM and still hate their country, especially the predominantly white Christian part.

Reminds me of the Shiites hating the Sunnis. Our own civil war in America. Hate breeds hate.

By Buy Danish

March 12, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

finch,

Largely unnoticed in this spectacle is the blinding fact that one nation is missing from the long list of Muslim countries (by which I mean France and England) with hundreds of crazy Muslims experiencing bipolar rage over some cartoons: Iraq. Hey — maybe this democracy thing does work! The barbaric behavior of Europe’s Muslims suggests that the European welfare state may not be attracting your top-notch Muslims.

From Ann Coulter. All Muslims? No, just the ones who want to destroy us.

Really, you cannot possibly believe that there is a way to remove any and all discussion of Islam and Muslims from the mix do you?

What do you want exactly? To level the playing field, we should cite the phrase “Islam is a religion of Peace” as often as Bin Laden says “We will destroy the infidels, God willing?”

By Buy Danish

March 12, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

getalife,

[RW posted that on his blog] (http://rw-theoriginal.blogspot.com/).

What about it EXACTLY do you disagree with? Let’s keep this simple, and just tell us whether or not you believe that the Iranian student was motivated by his religious beliefs and hatred of America, or if he just hit the pedal to the metal a wee bit too hard, purely by accident.

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

finch,

From the Steyn article you linked to Lucianne to paint your world view for us. Also available here.

Meanwhile, a new Washington Post/ABC poll finds that, in the words of the Post, “nearly half of Americans — 46 percent — have a negative view of Islam, seven percentage points higher than in the tense months after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, when Muslims were often targeted for violence.”

“Often” targeted? Want to put some hard numbers on that? Like to compare the “violence” Americans perpetrated on Muslims after the slaughter of thousands of their fellow citizens in the name of Allah with, say, the death toll perpetrated by Muslims annoyed over some itsy-bitsy cartoons in an obscure Danish newspaper? In September 2001, 99.99999 percent of Americans behaved with remarkable forbearance. If they’re less inclined to give the benefit of the doubt these days, perhaps it’s because of casual slurs like the Post’s or the no-jihad-to-see-here-folks tone of the Times.

There is a big difference between pointing out who is perpetrating these acts and painting the entire Muslim world as terrorists.

Your way is the path to dhimmitude, our way puts pressure on peaceful Muslims to step up and quell this uprising within it’s ranks. It is there and it isn’t insensitive to point it out. It’s kind of like the way liberals make it easy for people to sponge of the state, you want to make it easy for Muslims to pretend no problem exists.

By getalife

March 12, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

From ABC :

He says he did it to avenge the treatment of Muslims

No accident, he was planning this lone wolf attack.

Hate breeds hate.

By getalife

March 12, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

I see what OO was talking about:

“A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do” Bob Dylan

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I’m shocked, shocked that you did that without pimping my blog.

It’s hard out here for a pimp, you know.

By getalife

March 12, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this

RW,

I was watching the Oscars when that song won.

I think they were shocked,shocked that it won.

You know if you post your picture, people can see who they are talking to.

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

getalife,

How do you know that isn’t my picture I have posted? The 70’s were crazy times you know.

By Objective Observer

March 12, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

It did kinda make you wonder.

R.W.:

Thanks for the Dylan. I’m smiling!!!

Maybe one day you’ll see this:

“Just because you like my stuff doesn’t mean I owe you anything.” By: Bob Dylan

SOMEWHERE INTERESTING

And when life becomes a little too “CRAZY”, don’t doubt it can become CRAZIER STILL. “BADA BING BADA BOOM”.

By Buy Danish

March 12, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this

getalife,

[Hate breeds hate](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4786322.stm.

They just hate it when cartoons are published - so much so that it warrants the death penalty. At least this is civilized, and they are involving a prosecutor, instead of just unleashing an angry mob to behead the guy and be done with it.

By Buy Danish

March 12, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this

finch, clueless, and ilkmates,

Couldn’t have said it better myself

And now I remember why I used to love Woody Allen.

By Buy Danish

March 12, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this

Let’s try that hate breeds hate 3:50 pm link again

Where I said, They just hate it when cartoons are published - so much so that it warrants the death penalty. At least this is civilized, and they are involving a prosecutor, instead of just unleashing an angry mob to behead the guy and be done with it.

By Objective Observer

March 12, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

It was a shameless attempt at blog pimping. Don’t take me seriously on another “Anarchist.” One will suffice.

A promise is a promise!

By getalife

March 12, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

Uh oh, I had better take my cartoons down. Not.

I will make them an offer they can not refuse.

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

All blog pimping is appreciated.

getalife,

Are you trying to stereotype Sicilians over at your place? What’s that about X breeding X?

By getalife

March 12, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

RW,

Nah, we are all different in our own way.

Sicilians love life and love to eat. If you watch the Sopranos, they are always eating and drinking.

By Flat Earth Society

March 12, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

Andy/RW/Buy Danish/Pinko’s WN,

The media shows the weather as being beautiful this weekend, but I don’t believe it. We should resume operations, stay indoors, and blog more propaganda as usual, I mean, unless any of you were able to obtain sexual relations with others who weren’t reviled by you.

Keep me posted!

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

getalife,

The next episode of the Sopranos I watch will be the first one I’ve ever watched, but I’m all for the eating and drinking.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 12, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

Here’s the stupid POS liberal’s army in action:

Car Bombs Kill 44, Wound More Than 200 in Iraq Sunday, March 12, 2006

The attackers struck with car bombs, including a suicide driver, and mortars at the peak shopping time, destroying dozens of market stalls and vehicles as the explosives ripped through the poor neighborhood as residents were buying food for their evening meals.

The nature of the attack, its use of a suicide bomber, bore the hallmarks of Al Qaeda in Iraq, which has said it hoped to start a Shiite-Sunni civil conflict.

Cowards.

Meanwhile, the victory in Iraq marches towards it’s foregone conclusion:

The political leaders said they would open marathon meetings on Monday in an attempt to reach agreement on a new government. Khalilzad said he would be available to join the talks at any time.

Khalilzad said a permanent government needed to be in place quickly to fill the “vacuum in authority” at a time of continuing effort by “terrorists to provoke sectarian conflict.”

Cheer up, pinkos, I’m sure Al Qaeda will keep killing innocent women and children, giving you something to beat Bush and America about.

By getalife

March 12, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this

RW,

Eating, drinking, and strip club meetings. If you like it, you may want to get the DVD set to understand it better.

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this

getalife,

That sounds too familiar to bother watching a show about it.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 12, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

Sen. Feingold to Seek Censure of Bush Sunday, March 12, 2006

WASHINGTON — A liberal Democratic senator who is considering a White House bid in 2008 said Sunday he is seeking to censure President Bush over his domestic eavesdropping program. The Senate majority leader called it “a crazy political move.”

For which he should get his balls cut off in public for.

A censure resolution, which simply would scold the president, has been used just once in U.S. history — against Andrew Jackson in 1834.

Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold, a longtime critic of the Bush administration, said he hoped a censure would cause Bush to apologize for the warrantless surveillance that he put in place on his own after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

This is the same dude that authored legislation that is a clear violation of the First Amendment that being McCain Feingold. When do we “censor” him?

By Lefthookjab

March 12, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this

You Repugs are SOOO predictable. Rove has been your brain so long, his play book is wearing thin. How, you ask?

But Rove can’t cover everything…

The Man In The Black Hat and Trenchcoat Cometh.

Jack. Abramoff.

Heh-heh.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 12, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

The utter stupidity of Harry Reid shines through:

• “The American people have been shocked by what this administration has been doing, and we can run through the list of things that the American people have come to realize is basic incompetence: Katrina, prescription drugs, the war in Iraq, Leave No Child Behind — and, of course, now this Dubai port scandal,” Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, said on Thursday.*

Katrina: Because Bush didn’t stop it in the Gulf? Because Nagin refused Bush’s advice to evacuate? Because the pinkos are suing the rebuilding efforts trying to stop them?

Prescription Drugs: Because Bush doesn’t deliver the largest increase in entitlement spending to the front door of these incompetent stupid POS liberals? They have to think about the free money?

The War in Iraq: Freeing 25 million people from tyranny offends the democrats, I guess the pinkos thought they were better off getting gassed and raped.

Leave No Child Behind: Written by Ted Kennedy. Hijacked by the teacher’s union. How in the h-ell can a teacher be making $90,000 a year given the state of American education?

Dubai Port Scandal: After the bigoted racism displayed by the camera hog democratic party, we can sure look forward to all kinds of Arab countries wanting to be our partners.

Reid is an intellectual moron lightweight, where’s his ideas for America? Or was that it?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 12, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

“Much of the reporting has exaggerated the situation,” Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Tuesday. “The number of attacks on mosques had been exaggerated. The number of Iraqi deaths had been exaggerated. The behavior of the Iraqi security forces had been mischaracterized.”

For instance, The Washington Post reported on Feb. 25 that 120 Sunni mosques had been attacked in retaliation for the destruction of the Golden Mosque, holy to the Shiites. In a March 3 news conference, Gen. George Casey, commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, said:

“We can confirm attacks on about 30 mosques around the country, with less than 10 of those mosques moderately damaged, and only two or three severely damaged. We visited eight mosques (in Baghdad) that were reportedly damaged. We found one broken window in those eight mosques.”

Exaggeration and misinformation are hallmarks of chaotic situations, and it is hard for journalists who do most of their reporting from the safety of their hotels to sort fact from fiction. But Secretary Rumsfeld noticed a pattern in the errors:

“Interestingly, all the exaggerations seem to be on one side,” he said. “The steady stream of errors all seem to be of a nature to inflame the situation and give heart to the terrorists.”

By Objective Observer

March 12, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

I’ve been waiting to say this for a long time.

I LOVE THIS GLOBAL WARMING STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 07:11 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

I thought you brought this back from Florida for us.

By JJG

March 12, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this

LS&L, Am I going to have to b***-slap you for your facination with your favorite word - pinko? Your brothers in the Klan seem to have gotten the message. What’s your problem?!!Is your wardrobe from the 50’s too? Come up with some new and relevant insults, you McCarthy-loving dumbf**k. BTW, your command of the English language is awe-inspiring. Did you sleep through high school?

By The Usual Republican Dialogue

March 12, 2006 07:20 PM | Link to this

A little boy goes to his dad and asks, “What is politics?”

Dad says, “Well son, let me try to explain it this way: I’m the breadwinner of the family, so let’s call me capitalism. Your Mom, she’s the administrator of the money, so we’ll call her the Government. We’re here to take care of your needs, so we’ll call you the people. The nanny, we’ll consider her the Working Class. And your baby brother, we’ll call him the Future. Now, think about that and see if that makes sense.” So the little boy goes off to bed thinking about what dad had said.

Later that night, he hears his baby brother crying, so he gets up to check on him. He finds that the baby has severely soiled his diaper. So the little boy goes to his parents’ room and finds his mother sound asleep. Not wanting to wake her, he goes to the nanny’s room. Finding the door locked, he peeks in the keyhole and sees his father in bed with the nanny. He gives up and goes back to bed. The next morning, the little boy says to his father, “Dad, I think I understand the concept of politics now.” The father says, “Good son, tell me in your own words what you think politics is all about.”

The little boy replies, “Well, while Capitalism is screwing the Working Class, the Government is sound asleep, the People are being ignored and the Future is in deep s**.”

By Objective Observer

March 12, 2006 07:22 PM | Link to this

R.W.:

If I could package it, I would!!!!!!

By The Usual Republican Dialogue

March 12, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this

During his visit to Iraq, President Bush was intrigued by a new telephone capable of connecting with hell. He spoke briefly with the devil, and the call cost him 27 cents. When he came back home, he found out that this same service was now available in the US too. He tried it again and received a bill for $12,000. Bush was distressed. - How come?! The same call only cost me 27 cents in Iraq. - Well, said the operator. Over there it is a local call

By The Usual Republican Dialogue

March 12, 2006 07:36 PM | Link to this

A bus of politicians is driving by a farm where a man lives alone. The bus driver, caught up in the beautiful scenery, loses control and crashes into the ditch. The man comes out and finding the politicians, buries them.

The next day, the police are at the farm questioning the man. “So you buried all the politicians?” asked the police officer. “Were they all dead?”

To which the man replied, “Some said they weren’t, but you know how politicians lie.”

By The Usual Republican Dialogue

March 12, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this

Late one night in Washington, D.C., a mugger jumped a well-dressed man and held a gun to his ribs.

“Give me your money!” he demanded. The man stiffened, but said indignantly, “You can’t do this to me - I’m a U. S. Congressman!”

“In that case,” replied the robber, “give me my money!”

By The Usual Republican Dialogue

March 12, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this

Politicians and diapers have one thing in common.

They should both be changed regularly, and for the same reason.

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 08:27 PM | Link to this

Somebody needs to get T.U.R.D. some new material.

By Midori

March 12, 2006 08:36 PM | Link to this

Somebody needs to get T.U.R.D. some new material.

why don’t you do a poll on it?

By Right Hook Upper Cut K.O.

March 12, 2006 08:37 PM | Link to this

Heavens!

It appears that that famously unattractive pugilist, the Marquess of Queensbury has appeared in the form of Lefthookjab.

Undoubtedly he is here to rally his low-rent-low-life friends “Flat Earth”,”JJG” ,”URD” and other leaders of the STFU party.

Who is the Marquess?:

A hotheaded Scotsman who was prone to violence. It could have been because he was punch drunk…He was well known for abusing his wife and children

The marquess was an avowed and belligerent atheist who saw nothing wrong with disrupting services by shouting. Once he disrupted the premiere of a play that he felt too pious…

*Queensberry seemed obsessed with sex, perhaps because his second wife had sought an annulment soon after marriage because of “malformation of the parts of generation, frigidity and impotence.”

(http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangstersoutlaws/copsothers/oscar_wilde/4.html)

Carry on!

By Right Hook Upper Cut K.O.

March 12, 2006 08:42 PM | Link to this

RW,

T.U.R.D. Brilliant! Wish I’d thought of that myself.

By N-GA

March 12, 2006 08:45 PM | Link to this

Where is LS&L? He is the Bed Wetter, reincarnated! Usual “pinko” stuff interlaced with pathetic rantings and ravings. Definitely lunatic fringe. Can’t change his SPORTS (read:diapers).

Looks like another senior GOP government official is biting the dust. Mr. Claude Allen, GWB’s top domestic policy advisor has been arrested for scamming department stores.

He has an interesting background. He was nominated by GWB in 2003 for the 4th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals. Fortunately the Dems blocked his appointment.

By N-GA

March 12, 2006 08:48 PM | Link to this

What is brilliant is that ya’ll think The Usual Republican Dialog wasn’t aware of the acronym when he created his sobriquet. What is stupid is how long it took ya’ll to figure it out.

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 08:56 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

What is even more stupid is that you think you have a way of monitoring my whereabouts and thought processes between 7:11 and 8:27.

What am I wearing, clown?

By N-GA

March 12, 2006 09:02 PM | Link to this

RW….Where did that come from? The only people monitoring you are the FEDs doing illegal warrantless wiretaps trying to keep track of the lunatic fringe.

By N-GA

March 12, 2006 09:07 PM | Link to this

So this week we get to remember the My Lai massacre. Well, to be candid there are those wingnuts who will *celebrate” this tragedy.

Lt. William Calley, convicted of the MURDER of six (6) Vietnamese civilians served only 3 1/2 years of house arrest because the GOP was so very compassionate.

There is no accurate count of the murdered civilians, but it has been variously put at 300-500. If Yemen captured OBL and sentenced him to 3 1/2 years of house arrest, I can only imagine the reaction of our famously fascist frikin frat boys.

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

It came from your 8:48. It’s pretty ^ ^ easy to find.

As for the other portion of your snarky comment, were I a criminal involved in some nefarious activity I would find it a blessing to be captured because of what you deem an illegal method. Seems I would get the proverbial second bite at the apple.

By N-GA

March 12, 2006 09:15 PM | Link to this

RW….gonna ride this one down, huh? And to think you may have had something to contribute.

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. You are the one that came in taking shots at me, which has been your normal MO for the last couple of weeks, and I responded.

I’m not the least bit interested in contributing to your constant blame America first diatribe, especially with the new spin you’ve put on it.

By N-GA

March 12, 2006 09:30 PM | Link to this

RW….I don’t blame America first. I blame individuals (Lt. William Calley) and this administration (GWB, etal).

There is no “spin” as I simply tell the truth “in context”.

Your comrades, O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Rove, Cheney, Coulter, etc. live by spinning the truth. If you deny that fact, it only makes you a liar as well.

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 09:40 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

You’ve been calling me a liar for awhile now so in your mind it’s a done deal. If you think Calley was tried by some special “GOP court” then I guess you’re not spinning just delusional.

By N-GA

March 12, 2006 09:53 PM | Link to this

I never said that Calley was tried in a GOP court. The fact is that Nixon took personal oversite of Calley’s appeal. The fact remains that in each appeal, his sentence was reduced until he ended up serving 3 1/2 years of house arrest right here in Georgia at Fort Benning. But I can only assume that you are alright with that, just as you would be if the situation put OBL in the same position. To do otherwise would stink of hypocrisy.

By N-GA

March 12, 2006 09:54 PM | Link to this

On this week’s anniversary of the My Lai massacre, do you:

????????

By finch

March 12, 2006 10:07 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I agree that violent radical Islam is the enemy, and we shouldn’t underestimate it. Thanks for the link.

But the threat shouldn’t be exaggerated with stereotypes, either. That exaggeration is far more common among conservative pundits and politicians. It’s not just “politically incorrect”, it’s counter-productive. It sank the Dubai deal, and it may do worse.

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 10:08 PM | Link to this

If that’s for me I’ll go with “????????”. It’s never a good thing for a war criminal to get away with something, but if Calley himself got off as easy as you describe the memory and stigma live on. So as a practical matter of a country moving forward Calley the person is immaterial while My Lai is a long ago learned lesson.

I’m frankly surprised that you are making this such a celebration. Just yesterday I was remembering the victims of the Madrid train bombings and the Atlanta courthouse shooting victims. How shallow of me not to be marching in the streets to further punish Calley or Nixon.

By finch

March 12, 2006 10:21 PM | Link to this

RW and N-GA,

Nixon’s dead. End of story.

And as far as Calley is concerned, what are we supposed to do, execute him? I’m not unhappy that no one made a big deal about My-Lai. I consider that a lesson well-learned.

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 10:32 PM | Link to this

finch,

Please don’t lump me into perpetuating this discussion. It reminds me of a few years back when Don Imus had been obsessing over the Nixon/Hiss/Chambers trifecta.

Finally his sycophant started yelling: Alger Hiss IS DEAD, Whitaker Chambers IS DEAD, Richard Nixon IS DEAD, I wish I was dead….

Although I have to admit that may have been the most entertaining Imus moment ever.

By finch

March 12, 2006 10:41 PM | Link to this

RW,

Jeez, they are all dead, aren’t they?

By RW-(the original)

March 12, 2006 10:54 PM | Link to this

finch,

The sycophant is still alive and you probably had to hear it. Imus was right in his fascination though, he was shocked to find out that Chambers had been right all along.

By Scott

March 13, 2006 02:19 AM | Link to this

Poor, pitiful, hate-mongering RW. Some mean person is “taking shots at him” here. The punk makes no sense as usual.

4 more GI’s uselessly slaughtered in Afgstn on Sunday. Thanks, you heroic, tough-talking chickenhawks. If only you could/would serve.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 04:35 AM | Link to this

Gulf regards DP World outcry as ‘racist’ By Edmund Conway in Bahrain Filed: 13/03/2006

One of Bahrain’s top politicians has warned that the US row surrounding DP World’s takeover of P&O has taken on a worryingly racist tenor.

Asked whether it was fair that many were describing the US reaction as racist, he said: “Absolutely, but it’s something we can’t speak about. I think it was a shame. The DP World deal was a good deal. But this is politics.”

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 04:46 AM | Link to this

Tapes reveal WMD plans by Saddam By Rowan Scarborough THE WASHINGTON TIMES March 13, 2006

Some pundits and recently retired military officers are convinced that Saddam moved his remaining weapons to Syria. They cite satellite photos of lines of trucks heading into the neighboring country before the invasion and the fact Saddam positioned his trusted Iraqi Intelligence Service agents at border crossings.

Mr. Duelfer said there were promising leads that weapons of mass destruction did go into Syria, but the security situation prevented him from closing the loop. Mr. Duelfer concluded that Saddam planned to resume weapons of mass destruction production once the United Nations lifted economic sanctions.

Mr. Tierney said he thinks the regime poured chemical weapons into lakes and rivers and sent other stocks over the border to Syria. Mr. Tierney served as a U.N. weapons inspector in the 1990s.

“The ISG, they were lied to in a very systematic way,” he said. “Lying. They were very good at it.”

The truth sucks, don’t it pinkos?

By People want to know?

March 13, 2006 04:56 AM | Link to this

Andy, if you are going to change your name to post, at least change the fact that you are the only one who has ever posted this early. Your M.O. is post a couple of news links before 5am. Come on, why are you not using Andy anymore as your “name”???

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 05:18 AM | Link to this

This spring, as the college men enjoy the fruit of the feminists’ labors — scantily clad beach bunnies, ready to “party hearty” — it’s worth wondering who is looking out for the young women who will return from spring break filled with regret over bad decisions made after a night of too much alcohol. And even as the American Medical Association issues value-neutral warnings about the health risks of excessive drinking and unprotected sex, there are precious few cautions about the danger of intangible, but nonetheless real, damage to the psyche, to the heart and to the soul.

Through their impact on American culture, the feminists may have been able to influence how young girls think about casual sex. But despite their best efforts, they cannot change how the girls will feel about casual sex once spring break has passed, and the party’s finally over.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 05:21 AM | Link to this

People want to know?: Who says I’m trying to “hide” anything, Sherlock? If you stupid POS liberals want to post things using my name you are more than welcome to use this one ^^^. Have at it.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 05:24 AM | Link to this

Today the new post-Milosevic arrangements in the Balkans are imperfect, sectarian tensions are raw and democracy is fragile. Western troops are still needed on the ground in Bosnia, Kosovo and Macedonia. But no one seriously questions whether outside intervention was the right thing to do. The tragedy of the Balkans is that it took so long for the West to generate the nerve to stop the man who died on the weekend as a largely forgotten war criminal.

So why aren’t you stupid POS liberals harping on this real civil war? Is it because this is Clinton’s little war?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 05:32 AM | Link to this

Mr. Feingold’s proposal to censure Mr. Bush, which drew no immediate support from other lawmakers, seems to have little prospect of passing through the Senate or the House, both of which are under Republican control. However, it could step up pressure on prominent Democratic figures to accede to liberal activists who are intensifying their calls for stronger rhetoric and action against Mr. Bush.

Who’s the extremists?

Senator Warner of Virginia warned that talk of censure could undermine Mr. Bush’s ability to deal with foreign governments. “That was political grandstanding and it tends to weaken our president,” Mr. Warner said during an appearance on CNN.

Finally a democrat that cares more about his country then making mindless grabs for power. I must say, honestly, that I am shocked, shocked that liberals can even remember how to be civil and govern in the best interests of the United States.

Hats off to you, Mr. Warner.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 06:08 AM | Link to this

I spoke too soon, it was John Warner, not Mark.

Take back the nice things I said about democrats, they still suck and lie.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 06:21 AM | Link to this

I read one of this Jay Bookman’s columns for the first time about ten years ago and that was all it took for me, I haven’t read the second one since then. But this headline caught my eye:

Tillman death: Army still trips over cover-up

I still haven’t read Bookman’s column but I can just imagine. Talk about taking all of your credibility and flushing it down the toilet.

I’m not going to read the column so someone tell me if I’m correct- Karl Rove kidnapped Pat Tillman, took him to a ranch in Texas where Cheney “accidently” shot him to death and they threw him out of an airplane over Afghanistan so that they could call him a hero?

Close? Could we call it even and let this Hero’s memory rest in peace? He made a choice and gave up a lucrative career to protect you and me, could we, like, honor that?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 06:36 AM | Link to this

Another Democratic operative, Daniel Gerstein, said his party’s candidates need to proceed cautiously with rhetoric condemning the president. “If all people hear about your message is you’re against taking all reasonable measures to protect the country from terrorism and you don’t want the CIA listening to Al Qaeda, it puts us in an even deeper hole on this issue,” he said.

Suicide is painless, it brings on many changes…

By seeker

March 13, 2006 06:37 AM | Link to this

The fun fact about Tillman is that he was shot by his own men.

Three times. At close range. In the head.

Be all that you can be.

By seeker

March 13, 2006 07:00 AM | Link to this

Be all that you can be

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 07:06 AM | Link to this

The “fun fact” about Tillman, True American Hero, is that he was killed by accident. I know that the stupid POS liberals, nintendo generation, would never, never kill the wrong perp in “Grand Theft Auto.”

Friendly fire estimates since WW2:

The following are The American War Library’s best extimates on friendly fire casualties (both fatal and non-fatal) based on historic War Dept, Dept of the Navy and Dept of Defense casualty reports detailing various battle reports.

At best, these are conservative figures. Which is to say, these figures represent the minimal prcentages of FF casualties on record so far. As additional friendly fire incidents are discovered these figures will increase, not decrease.

War/Campaign Percent Casualties U.S. Military only

World War II 21%

Korea 18%

Vietnam 39%

Persian Gulf 49%

My Goodness, you libs are just as freaking weird as you can possibly be. Stonewall Jackson was shot to death by his own men.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 07:08 AM | Link to this

In Whose Interest?

By LAWRENCE MONE March 13, 2006

As the mid-term election campaign gears up, Democrats are braying that Republicans have been corrupted by “special interests,” such as big pharma and big oil. But the Democrats throwing these stones live in a glass house. Washington spends more than a trillion taxpayer dollars a year on policies generated by left-wing lobbies that miseducate children, extort businesses, and disempower the poor. The media-stoked claim that Republicans are puppets of “special interests,” while Democrats are champions of “public” interests, is an illusion that America can no longer afford.

Nowhere is this illusion more costly than in the case of the trial lawyers. In 2003, the American Trial Lawyers Association was the third most generous political action committee in the country, controlling $2.8 million. Eighty-nine percent of that cash went to Democrats, making ATLA the largest political action committee contributor to the Democrats. All told, the litigation industry has contributed a staggering $470 million to federal campaigns since 1990.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 07:11 AM | Link to this

Before 1965, most social-services agencies were privately organized and funded, and had little stake in government spending policies. As this industry grew, however, it became a natural ally of the Democratic Party in efforts to increase the size of government. Today, these advocacy groups not only lobby for more government social programs, they effectively run them. It’s in their interest to support expanded government funding, because these advocacy groups’ livelihoods are tied to those funds.

The social-services sector now numbers 3.3 million workers, most of them funded by government. But the $520 billion we spend each year for a myriad of welfare and related human services has had little real impact on poverty. Our safety net has been notable primarily for the propensity of the poor to become entangled in it. Yet when the historic 1996 Welfare Reform Act sought to break the cycle of dependency and move people into the world of work, nearly half of the House Democrats opposed the legislation - even though Bill Clinton was one of its most vocal proponents.

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 07:52 AM | Link to this

Looks like the bed wetter is up and about. Must have been a very bad nightmare last night. He’ll probably need to change his mattress.

Yup….he’s blindly loyal, though. Still backing a president who gets a woody every time American blood is spilled in the middle east.

I figured out why the bed wetter is so extremely loyal to the fascist right. If not for them, the funds would still be there to pay for taking care of the criminally insane and bed wetter would still be in an institution.

Ah, well…..

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 07:57 AM | Link to this

Hey Bed Wetter,

Your post quotes Lawrence Mone as saying: “In 2003, the American Trial Lawyers Association was the third most generous political action committee in the country, controlling $2.8 million.”

Perhaps you can find the facts to back up that lie. I think you will find that every company in the Fortune 100 had bigger PAC’s than $2.8 million.

By Right Hook Upper Cut K.O.

March 13, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

But the threat shouldn’t be exaggerated with stereotypes, either. That exaggeration is far more common among conservative pundits and politicians

finch,

You’d have to provide me some exact quotes that support your contention. I parsed the Ann Coulter column and it just doesn’t qualify as the Dubai deal breaker.

It’s pretty hard to exaggerate the threat - not only from mass slaughter, but from the insidious censorship that leaves vehicles of the “free press” like the AJC cowering in fear, and prosecutes individuals for “blasphemy” not only in Arab/Muslim states, but even in Westernized countries like Italy

Instead of blaming “conservatives” for the poor p.r. that Muslims are getting, it might be useful to blame the jihadists whose campaigns of terror tends to leave reasonable people unsympathetic to their cause.

Meanwhile, I don’t know if you saw this link to an op-ed entitled, “DENIAL”, so I will repost it

By Right Hook Upper Cut K.O.

March 13, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this

RW,

I was hoping to find a M.L. archive going back to 9/11 so we could see how N-GA recognizes that anniversary, but unfortunately the archives only go back to October.

By Flat Earth Society

March 13, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this

Ok, crew, it’s Monday. Andy, RightHook, RW, Buy Danish, Pinko’s WN (LS), and all you other lonely people, let’s kick the propaganda machine into action. Our fuhrer’s poll ratings are still slipping. We can’t let the truth interfere with public opinion. Spin, people, spin!

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

I find it more than interesting that the wing-nuts posting here never miss an opportunity to blame the American left for losing the “war” in Viet Nam. However, when someone posts the truth about My Lai and Lt. William Calley, suddenly this posting is pooh-poohed in an attempt to reduce its significance.

As the right wing dodges the issue, the rest of us real Americans recognize the hypocrisy for what it is. Don’t think for one minute that the rest of the world doesn’t notice. They see this administration and those who are complicit in its actions as arrogant hypocrites and neo-Fascists. And they are correct.

IMPEACH BUSH!! FOLLOW THE MONEY!!

By Right Hook Upper Cut K.O.

March 13, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this

Flat Earth Denizen,

Here’s some “spin” for you

Go ahead and refute it.

Dare, dare, double dare.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

I usually don’t respond to children but when they insinuate that the acts of a few soldiers in the field of combat are official United States government policy, it leaves me no choice. No one on the right is excusing Calley’s behaviour, to say such a thing is beyond comprehension, not because the stupid POS liberals actually believe nonsense like that, but because these degenerates regularly overlook atrocities like Saddam feeding people into shredders, Pol Pot enslaving/ murdering whole country’s full of people and Al Qaeda butchering the innocent in the Middle East.

One wonders if this is some false ploy to gain political advantage for their stupid mindless power grab, that in fact they want the United States to be mass murderers so that these pinkos can beat Bush up for it.

Was the left joyous when they saw Americans kill those Vietnamese villagers?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

“I saw the good and the bad in Iraq — cooperation and hostility, war and reconstruction,” said Lt. Lawrence Indyk, who was awarded a Purple Heart for his service. “But this war isn’t about my personal experience. U.S. policy in Iraq aims to replace an ultra-aggressive, terror-harboring tyranny with a constitutional democracy, at peace with its neighbors. And to assess our progress on that track, we need metrics that are impersonal.”

The POS liberals are too stupid to understand these things, they would rather judge progress based on the murderous deeds of some coward suicide bombers who don’t even come from Iraq.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

Iraq Body Count, an antiwar group that keeps a running tally of Iraqi civilian deaths, reports that the daily toll under the occupation falls in the range of 25 to 28 per day. But under Saddam’s rule, the death toll averaged three times that, including 600,000 civilian executions recorded by the Documental Center for Human Rights, and the 100,000 Kurds killed during the Anfal operation. A violent day under the coalition would be just a routine day under Saddam.

Spin?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

Former Marine Sergeant J. D. Johannes was a soldier during the first Iraq war. He returned to his old unit as combat reporter in the second. He offers this assessment:

Everyone knows that the history of war is written by the victors. But the war in Iraq has shattered that truism. In Iraq, history is being written by the losers. Baathist kidnappers and jihadist bombers are planning their operations not to win the war in Iraq, but to win it in America. To that end, they are assessing what American news organizations are willing to cover, and what American reporters are willing to risk. As an immediate result, many of the feeds on the nightly news are coming from Arabic sources that are either non-professional in their journalistic standards or hostile to American policy aims. As a long-term result, the American public is broadly misinformed on a war that Coalition arms and Iraqi democrats are, in fact, winning.

Well, some of us are “misinformed.” That would be the easily fooled stupid POS liberals.

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

Yup, the Bed Wetter has spoken, only to be ignored once again.

The wing-nuts love to talk about president Clinton and other issues of the past…until they are confronted with truth. That is what will defeat them, ultimately…the truth.

They don’t want to discuss the past unless their version of the present is being thrashed by THE TRUTH.

I am sure that I am missing a few things this administration has fu@ked up.

By getalife

March 13, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

The hatemonger “the shadow ” spewed on my blog, I answered with the Feingold censure

Bold move on his part, but should show the rest of the world we take laws seriously,even though W does not.

Of course it will not pass due to the GOP control but if the Dems get control in 06, the stage is set.

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

Katherine Harris…..SPLAT!!!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

Corruption - at the highest levels

Proof that the people don’t believe all of the BS spewed by the angry stupid POS liberals:

DeLay Wins Texas Republican Primary

Wednesday March 8, 2006 5:01 PM

HOUSTON (AP) - In his first election since he was indicted and forced to step aside as majority leader, Rep. Tom DeLay held off three challengers to keep the Republican nomination to the U.S. House.

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

“THE END OF DEMOCRACY AND THE DEFEAT OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION WILL OCCUR WHEN GOVERNMENT FALLS INTO THE HANDS OF LENDING INSTITUTIONS AND MONEYED INCORPORATIONS.” PRESIDENT THOMAS JEFFERSON (a founder of America in condemnation of a global bank cartel, 1743-1826)

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

“WAR IS A RACKET. IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN… A RACKET IS BEST DESCRIBED, I BELIEVE, AS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS TO THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE. ONLY A SMALL ‘INSIDE’ GROUP KNOWS WHAT IT IS ABOUT. IT IS CONDUCTED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE VERY FEW, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE VERY MANY. OUT OF WAR A FEW PEOPLE MAKE HUGE FORTUNES.” SMEDLEY DARLINGTON BUTLER (Major General - United States Marine Corps. Butler was awarded two Congressional Medals of Honor, for capture of Vera Cruz, Mexico, 1914, and for capture of Ft. Riviere, Haiti, 1917. He was also awarded the Distinguished Service Medal, 1919. Among other robber barons, JP Morgan approached S.D. Butler for the Rockefeller-Rothschild bloc in 1934. The plan was for Butler to lead a military overthrow of the U.S. government then headed by FDR. Butler refused the proposed role as front man for an obvious fascist cartel takeover of America. The coup plan was abandoned for a subtler cartel variation. 1881-1940)

By finch

March 13, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

The prosecution of Oriana Fallaci for speaking her mind is inexcusable. Just because she’s Italy’s Anne Coulter is no reason to muzzle her. Perhaps the Italian version of the ACLU can defend her.

It’s a shame the essay you linked to is so.. inflammatory!

“French girls cannot go through certain Parisian neighborhoods without wearing a burqa without fear of being raped”

Haven’t heard anything about THAT before!

Now where have I heard that hoary chestnut, “they’re raping our women!” before?

Oh yes! Now I remember!

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

Hey…..Andy The Bed Wetter,

DeLay won a primary between “Republicans”, in “Texas”, yet. Certainly that’s TWICE enough proof that the people who voted for him are the ones who are stupid.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

Oh look, proof that America is stupid, at least according to the POS liberals, that is:

Bush wins second term as Kerry concedes

I, for one, am proud of America’s “stupidity.”

By SS&S

March 13, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

N-GA - Aside from the “War in Iraq” and “OBL” missing (new endeavors), everything else you list is redundant and could apply to all politicians.

Have you got anything new? Something that would cause people to stand up and take notice of your posts. I’m just not feeling enlightened by your personal opinion.

You don’t like Bush!!! We get it already!!! But then I’ll be the first to say that you are entitled to your self-consuming anger. Good luck with that!!!

By hewhoasks

March 13, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

Well, LSAL, it appears you’re still trying to keep the WMD lies alive. It may come as a shock to you but the fact that trucks existed in Iraq is enough to suggest that they were routinely used to carry goods (plain old “stuff”) around Iraq and into and out of Syria and other neighboring countries. With the war clearly coming private owners of goods would want to get them away from the site of the conflict. That trucks drove to Syria is akin to the sun coming up: the trucks have no evidentiary value. There is zero, zip, nada that indicates what the contents of any of those trucks was. You can’t even show the trucks had any contents: they could have been moved to Syria to remove the trucks from harm’s way. If you can’t actually show that any truck contained any WMD or WMD production equipment then you have no proof whatsoever. You can’t, you don’t. The “trucks to Syria” fable is one of the thinnest straws the right is grasping.

In addition, if Bush were actually attacking Iraq because of the danger the WMD posed he clearly screwed up if the WMD went, as you claim, to Syria. Quite obviously the planners of the invasion paid no attention at all to the possibility that the WMD they claimed existed would be taken form the country. Of course they also paid no visible attention to the possibility that after the Iraqi army was defeated the arsenals of conventional explosives would be emptied so the lack of planning was, for this war, routine.

But when it comes to lies the big liars are in the administration. The administration forced the CIA to issue a ridiculous white paper that purported to conclude that the hydrogen-generation trailers found in Iraq were actually mobile biological WMD culture units. That conclusion was reached without any fact at all in support of the conclusion. Even better, the subsequent Duelfer report, also form the CIA, professionally and thoroughly shows why the evidence indicates the trailers were for hydrogen manufacture. That administration lie still stinks, still demonstrates that the administration willingly and deliberately forced the CIA to tell a crude and unsupportable lie with the urpose of continuing to deceive Americans willing to be deceived.

The cooling unit that the white paper makes os much of is a routine and necessary component for a system that produces hydrogen by the reaction used. I’m a chemist, I’ve run that reaction, I know about the heat released. Without the cooling unit the reacting mixture would boil, forcing “caustic” (the obscurationist term used in the white paper for plain old lye) through the system, corroding vales and pumps.

If you want to make a TRWLR (typical right-wing lame response) you can go to the CIA web site, read the white paper, and try to claim some part of it is valid. You cannot find any evidence there or anywhere else to support the “conclusion” of that white paper.

Jay Bookman wrote about that years ago, BTW.

By hewhoasks

March 13, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

“I, for one, am proud of America’s ‘stupidity.’”

How are the Bush approval rating polls running these days?

By finch

March 13, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

All but the DeLay stalwarts stayed home during the primary DeLay won. They’d much rather see HIM as a candidate in November than some GOP poser who might actually have integrity.

By getalife

March 13, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this

finch,

I see a lot of hate in the faces of the crowd in your link. One guy in the back with the tooth missing, looks happy.

Reminds me of some hate I read on blogs.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this

hewhoasks: So what was Clinton bombing in 1998? Did he magically destroy not only the WMD but their capablility to make more? In one bombing raid?

You’ll have to pardon me if I don’t hop aboard the CIA bandwagon.

All we want is to investigate all of the evidence. What are you pinkos afraid of? That Bush didn’t lie?

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

finch,

“French girls cannot go through certain Parisian neighborhoods without wearing a burqa without fear of being raped”

By SS&S

March 13, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

I think somebody needs to alert all postal workers in these here United States, that one of their own, N-GA is teetering on the edge.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

Report Acknowledges Inaccuracies in 2004 Exit Polls

Or:

See BS Slants Bush Poll in Favor of Democrats

Hitch your wagon to a pile of BS, young man, and go west!

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

finch,

It clearly says “FEAR of rape… in CERTAIN Parisian neighborhoods”.

That is a fact. And try all you want, but you are not going to tie Orianna Fallaci, Ann Coulter, me, or the rest of us who are not living in denial to lynching.

Exposing IslmoFASCISM is not RACISM.

Come on finch, I expect more of you.

By finch

March 13, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

And who, pray tell, is instilling this fear of rape, which has no foundation?

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck….

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

A furious George Looney hits gutless Dems

This p****** is encroaching on my territory.

George Clooney (above) says top Democrats like Hillary Clinton (below) should be held accountable for not speaking out earlier against Iraq war.

“It’s not merely our right to question our government, it’s our duty. Whatever the consequences,” he lectures.

Especially in a time of war when you are wrong, it’s the best time to get all hysterical with your panties wadded up.

George Clooney has a message for Democratic office-holders who voted for the war in Iraq, only to claim later that they’d been misled by President Bush: “F— you!”

The movie star’s argument — directed at the likes of presidential wannabes Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, John Kerry and John Edwards — is actually more nuanced than that.

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

SS&S,

You can play rope-a-dope, but everyone knows that you are only trying to deflect criticism from this administration by blaming all politicians.

Since when does the failure of Congress to pass meaningfull legislation to fund Social Security and Medicare a problem for ALL politicians? If you passed basic math, you would know that the REPUBLICANS have enough votes to pass whatever they want. So, obviously they don’t want to support the solutions offered by this administration.

The Federal deficit is a DIRECT RESULT of the incompetence and greed of THIS ADMINISTRATION. You can’t blame the wars in the middle east, because they are not included in the budget or the deficit numbers released by the gov’t.

I can go on, but you are either incapable of reason, or just too stupid to understand reality.

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

Thank you, Bed Wetter. That George Clooney stuff came straight from the Huffington Post. I’m glad to see that you’ve improved your reading habits. Of course you neglected to link to the article lest people go there and read the whole thing.

By Flat Earth Society

March 13, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Alright Crew! SS&S, BuyDanish, Pinko’s WN (LS&L), and you other masters of autoerotism, great job! Keep spreading lies about the “liberal” media, about how we should live in fear and subvert all our civil liberties, because government just doesn’t have enough power to protect us. And remember, we’re “Republicans” even if Bush & Co. aren’t.

By Proud to be Dubya

March 13, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” —George W. Bush, Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

A furious George Looney hits gutless Dems I don’t do the puffington host.

Isn’t this some s-hit though. A panty waist who is in an all out panic over a war we are winning has the nerve to call other people “bed wetters.” It’s like, good morning, y’all, you’re the ones running hysterically through the streets.

What is the infatuation with p***’s and urine and yellow stains, anyway? Is this some f-ag role playing or some bizarro deal?

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

finch,

I gather that you must spend a lot of time in the banlieus of Paris to be able to speak with such authority that there is “no foundation” to the fears of the muslim women who live there amongst the Talibanesque members of the opposite sex.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

My goodness: I know it doesn’t take much but are we exciting these pinkos?-

By Flat Earth Society March 13, 2006 10:59 AM

Alright Crew! SS&S, BuyDanish, Pinko’s WN (LS&L), and you other masters of autoerotism, great job!

By SS&S

March 13, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

N-GA - My posts are going to be hit & miss today. I’m at work. In response to your 10:55—

I refuse to commit all blame to one individual as you do. It takes on the appearance of “personal vendetta.”

It has been said that Congress is a great stampede of lips directed at the nearest derriere. Now there is a worthwhile truism; and it applies to both parties. Look at the ports deal. Big mistake IMO.

Bush tried to implement changes in Social Security and Medicare. Why did it fail?

Because, if it is an unpopular issue, the pursed lips will go with their opportunity for re-election rather than stand on principal and do what is right. That’s politics!

Oddly enough, when I find a politician that rejects that way of doing things, he has my respect and support. I like a political rebel because anything else is just self-serving and I find that highly suspect.

BTW, the manner in which you direct some of your responses (name-calling) can discredit your argument. It displays a “personal vendetta” fueled by emotion and not logic. But this is a free country and you can project yourself anyway you want.

By Scooter

March 13, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Didn’t the dems refuse to give up any of their political power of dependence over our SS funds? Didn’t they also use the politics of fear by comparing all private funds to Enron, Global Crossing, etc…?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

i don’t do no autoerotii-whatever becuz i gotta dawg. i am not two co-ordinayted anywayz!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

i luv it when demoncrat soldjers git killed by the Repub. trooops cuz demoncrats is killing our freedums.

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

finch,

And perhaps you have been to Australia recently

And I guess all the Islamic scholars in this symposium are just ignorant racists

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

Prezident BUsh is a jeenyus!!! he is so tuff that it makes me git a littel excyted!!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

yew peepol mayke me siiick wiht your be-ing gay and hettero-sexyewal..what-evur yew knoe what i mean!!

By candide

March 13, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

To censure Bush would be to let him off too easily. Unfortunately the Constitution does not allow a bill of attainder which otherwise could be used to sentence Bush to death, which is what he really deserves.

By Dusty

March 13, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this

Looks like the “jackers” are back. Maybe it isn’t kids but some degenerate ol’ coot.

N-GA,

GET HELP asap. There’s a VA hospital in Atlanta. GO!!

Hewhoasks,

You remember something from a Bookman editorial? You must be Bookman. Nobody else remembers anything he has written.

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this

finch,

Maybe you prefer what Time Magazine has to report

The Time Magazine article dates back to 2002.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

I learned something from the pinkos!!: Protecting the American people by monitoring the activities of our enemy is a high crime and misdemeanor.

Honest Injun, that’s what they said.

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

finch,

Here’s a new twist on the “Smiley Face”:

The German journalist Udo Ulfkotte told in a recent interview that in Holland, you can now see examples of young, unveiled Moroccan women with a so-called “smiley”. It means that the girl gets one side of her face cut up from mouth to ear, serving as a warning to other Muslim girls who should refuse to wear the veil. In the Muslim suburb of Courneuve, France, 77 per cent of the veiled women carry veils reportedly because of fear of being harassed or molested by Islamic moral patrols

By Objective Observer

March 13, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

Dusty:

Regarding your 12:44…

N-GA — Maybe a solemn, unsmiling, sanctimonious old iceberg who looks like he is waiting for a vacancy in the Trinity.

That’s how Mark Twain would describe him anyway. But then I’m just speculating on Mark’s behalf.

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

finch,

Or maybe you trust Wikipedia as a source

Tell me again about this irrational fear?

By Dusty

March 13, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this

OO.

I would imagine that N-GA is waiting for a vacancy in a place with a much hotter climate than where the Trinity might be found.

Where is RW? Is he playing hide’n’seek? I’ll have to check his blog and see what he is stirring up.

By Objective Observer

March 13, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

Dusty:

It’s the omniscient quality he affords himself. That’s what I’m seeing.

I haven’t been able to keep up with all posts today, so I couldn’t testify to the whereabouts of R.W.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

It’s me again!:

Here’s the ultimate irony: Feminists are anti-feminine. They reject hearth and home, procreation and childrearing (unless it’s done by “professionals”). They deny the maternal instinct. They condemn the feminine urge to nurture and to create a safe haven from the perils of modern life. (They also deny the male imperative to serve and protect.) Everything that’s distinctive about their sex, they abhor.

Because they hate their nature, they are self-loathing. Most are miserable — and deservedly so.

For almost 20 years, I worked in a newsroom with these resentful, envious, humorless harpies. An uglier lot you will never find — this side of “Alien vs. Predator.”

Most were deeply unhappy with their lives, always ready to take offense at imaginary slights, convinced that any lack of advancement was due to a chauvinist conspiracy and angry at those who challenged feminist dogma. They were about as much fun as Hillary on a bad hair day (speaking of resentful, envious, humorless harpies).

Who in their right mind would take life advice from such spiritually misshapen creatures? ABC News, of course.

By RW-(the original)

March 13, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this

Dusty;OO,

I’m back! I was out trying to warn John Kerry about N-GA’s crusade on Vietnam war criminals. I’d hate to see him get locked up before Hillary gets to expose his dishonorable discharge.

By finch

March 13, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this

BD,

This is not evidence that rape is being used as a tactic in jihad. What I see are heartbreaking stories from women who were raped by apolitical, non-religious thugs, doing what thugs everywhere do to their own neighbors, in their own neighborhood. Shoot them all.

It’s interesting to note that western women kidnapped by jihadists aren’t sexually assaulted. Oh, they’re murdered, for sure. But they’re not raped.

By Conservatives Swallow

March 13, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

In today’s Double Standard, conservatives staunchly defended their president’s constitutional wiretapping crimes, just because.

Stay tuned for more spinsanity.

By Flat Earth Society

March 13, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

RW,Pinko,OO,Buy Danish, we need to get a veteran to join our crew to give us a stronger sense of false credibility. We’re losing the battle, darn it!

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

finch,

Who said anything about a “tactic in Jihad”? It’s not a phrase that I used, but your complete denial that there is anything “religious” or “political” about this intimidation of women is naive at best.

How about a tactic of IslamoFASCISM that leaves the muslim women living in FEAR (not to mention leaving more than a few non-muslim women who are raped, but not technically “kidnapped”, just a wee bit bloodied).

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

Hey, I seen the swallows down in Capistrano, I didn’t know they were Republicans!

By Dusty

March 13, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

Conservative Swallow,

Amazing, isn’t it? You know more about our Constitution that the Attorney General of the United States. Atleast, you think so.

Fortunately, the President consulted the Attorney General and not you. There is and was no crime about the current anti-terrorist wiretapping.

By No Child Left Behind

March 13, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

Why Mommy is a Democrat

Good book; no Republican bashing, just positives about Democrats. I have purchased 150 copies for distribution within the GA Public Library System and my local schools. Those interested should be able to loan/checkout within a month or so. If you’re in a hurry you can order your kids their own copy.

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I’m trying to figure out what the “Double Standard” is. Do you have any clues for me?

I get as far as We pursue the enemy and wiretap calls originating from suspected terrorists, but I get stuck after that…

I guess I’ll just have to wear the dunce hat again.

By Dusty

March 13, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

RW,

Wonder why Kerry doesn’t release his military records and clear this “thing” up? And why doesn’t the press snoop more diligently? If they can come up with phony records on Bush, looks like they could get hold of Kerry’s real ones?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

“Bush Lied. Kerry Complied. Bring the troops home now,” they chanted outside the Kennedy School.

He actually voted for complying before he voted against it.

One man, who was sitting inside the forum, called out to Kerry after the documentary.

“Stop this war, John, grow some balls” the man said. “You can do something, John.”

‘The man was taken out of the forum, but his message did not fall on deaf ears.

The pinkos have started censoring everybody now including their own moonbats. If they ever get a message how will they get it out?

Let the loonies speak!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

No Child Left Behind: I thought democrats stopped having children?

By Midori

March 13, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

Kerry allows Navy release of military, medical records

Bush’s turn.

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

NCLB,

I am often called a dunce, so I’m not sure if you are serious or joking about this book.

If you are serious, I’d like to make you aware that “at least 5% of the profits from the sale of this book will be contributed to Democratic candidates and Democratic party organizations*.

WARNING: You could be in violation of campaign finance laws

Don’t blame me, blame McCain-Feingold.

By RW-(the original)

March 13, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

L S & L,

From your link:

“I wish that young man who stood up was still here because those of you who know me, know that I don’t shy away from any conversation on any subject,” Kerry said. “I understand the anxiety and the frustration people feel here in this country.”

So why didn’t he stop them from taking the kid out?

By No Child Left Behind

March 13, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

Bedtime Story

This kids book DOES bash Republicans and can be printed out with Adobe Reader. Read with your kids so they can understand that not all grownups are Republican.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

compare the two

By No Child Left Behind

March 13, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

LSL- Democrats love their children, too; just like you do. It is quite clear that you are surprised and that tells EVERYTHING about your personna!

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this

Isn’t this cute!

WARNING: Do not bring your children to the circus after reading this book. They may get really scared when the see the elephants, and could be scarred for life.

(See, Post traumatic circus disorder)

By SS&S

March 13, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this

Has anybody ever wondered by Ted called it “Leave No Child Left Behind?”

I’m wondering??????????????????????????????

By Dusty

March 13, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Well, Buy Danish,

After serious thought from my deep study at the Whoopee Law School of Internet Degrees where I spent two whole days of intense intellectual activity, I have decided this: Who knows?

But I think that Conservative Swallow thinks that we should KNOW that anything President Bush does is a CRIME but we act like we don’t KNOW because it isn’t a crime and therefore we don’t call it a crime but Conservative Swallow from Capistrano thinks just the opposite which mean 1 + 1 = Double Standard because C-swallow thinks all conservatives lead double lives and therefore she must straighten us out before she flies south.

I hope that clears up this whole sorry mess. I confess I graduated Summma cum loudee from WLS of ID as did the whole class.

By RW-(the original)

March 13, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I like the frame right above the elephant. Sounds a lot like that socialist Rainbow Fish book.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

NCLB: I think my perceptions of democrats are more accurate than your misjudgements of Republicans.

Besides which, how can a gay couple have children? Do you have a book on that one?

By RW-(the original)

March 13, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Maybe next time you can provide a resource where the links actually take you to some information.

By RW-(the original)

March 13, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this

Much better reading.

By No Child Left Behind

March 13, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

Log Cabin Republicans

Gay/Lesbian Republicans. One of many gay/lesbian REPUBLICAN groups LSL seems to be unaware of.

Log Cabin Republicans stand on the front lines of today’s most important battle for the civil rights of gay and lesbian Americans

By SS&S

March 13, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

Midori - I was looking for a fair comparison on your 3:10 link. A foregone conclusion (AWOLBUSH.COM) seems a little weighted, kinda like the recent SeeBS polls.

But then you, yourself have admitted to being “green” so it’s easy to understand why you buy into that crap.

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

NCLB,

Okay, now that I’m positive that you’re not kidding, I’m may write my own…

Chapter one:

A walk around the neighborhood

Look Dick! See all the nice government buildings! They are big. They are really, really big. Big government is good, good, good.

Look! See the local businesses!

Look! There’s the movie theatre that shows Farenheit 9/11! That movie is good! Good, good, good.

Look! There’s the office building where mommy got her in-vitro pregnancy arranged, so we don’t need any daddies in our house. Daddies are bad. Bad, bad, bad.

Look! There is the military recruiting center! We don’t want families to have access to this evil building, so we protest here and call them baby-killers. Military is bad. Bad, bad, bad.

Look! There’s the grocery store. They sell meat in this store so we won’t go there. Meat is bad. Bad, bad bad.

Look! There’s the health food store. They sell sprouts and granola at this store. I know you don’t like them, but crying is bad. Bad, bad, bad.

Look! There’s a pharmacy. They get their supplies from big, greedy Republican Pharmaceutical companies. They are bad. Bad, bad, bad.

Look! There’s a gas station. They get their gas from big greedy Republican oil companies. We ride a bike everywhere because oil is bad. Bad, bad, bad.

Look! There’s a Starbucks. And a WalMart. OH NO!!!! The sky is falling! RUN DICK, RUN!!

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

NCLB,

Judging from what’s posted on this blog, It’s no wonder that gays are fleeing the Democrat party. They frequently use decidedly anti-gay references to bash Republicans.

RW,

I have not yet read “Rainbow Fish”! I am familiar with that book you linked to however.

I’m not positive, but I think that the newspaper that the man is reading says, “Pravda”. Or is it just the New York Times?

By getalife

March 13, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

Breaking the law, Judas Priest

There I was completely wasting, out of work and down All inside it’s so frustrating as I drift from town to town Feel as though nobody cares if I live or die So I might as well begin to put some action in my life

Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law

So much for the golden future, I can’t even start I’ve had every promise broken, there’s anger in my heart You don’t know what it’s like, you don’t have a clue If you did you’d find yourselves doing the same thing too

Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law

You don’t know what it’s like

Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law

Breaking the law

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

Hey getalife, this is one of my favorites:

AC/DC- GIRLS GOT RHYTHM Lyrics

I’ve been around the world, I’ve seen a million girls Ain’t one of them got, What, my lady, she’s got She’s stealin’ the spotlight, Knocks me off my feet She’s enought to start a landslide, Just a walkin’ down the street Wearin’ dresses too tight, And lookin’ dynamite Enough to blow me out, No doubt about it, can’t live without it

[Chorus] The girl’s got rhythm! (Girl’s got rhythm!) The girl’s got rhythm! (Girl’s got rhythm!) She’s got the backseat rhythm! (Backseat rhythm!) The girl’s got rhythm! Oh!

She’s like a lethal brand, Too much for any man She gave me first-degree, She really satisfied me Loves me till I’m lifeless, Achin’, and sore Enough to stop a freight train, Or start the Third World War You know I’m losin’ sleep, But I’m in too deep Like a body needs blood, No doubt about it, can’t live without it

[Chorus] The girl’s got rhythm! (Girl’s got rhythm!) The girl’s got rhythm! (Girl’s got rhythm!) She’s got the backseat rhythm! (Backseat rhythm!) The girl’s got rhythm! Ow!

[Instrumental Intermission]

You know she moves like sin, And when she lets me in It’s like liquid love, No doubt about it, can’t live without it

[Chorus] The girl’s got rhythm! (Girl’s got rhythm!) The girl’s got rhythm! (Girl’s got rhythm!) She’s got the backseat rhythm! (Backseat rhythm!) The girl’s got rhythm! (Girl’s got rhythm!) You know she’s really got the rhythm! (Girl’s got rhythm!) She’s got the backseat rhythm! (Backseat rhythm!) Rock n’ roll rhythm! (Rock n’ roll rhythm!) The girl’s got rhythm!

By Proud to be Dubya

March 13, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this

“We discussed the way forward in Iraq, discussed the importance of a democracy in the greater Middle East in order to leave behind a peaceful tomorrow.” —George W. Bush, Tbilisi, Georgia, May 10, 2005

By Scooter

March 13, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

“Saddam’s primary goal from 1991 to 2003 was to have UN sanctions lifted, while maintaining the security of the Regime. He sought to balance the need to cooperate with UN inspections—to gain support for lifting sanctions—with his intention to preserve Iraq’s intellectual capital for WMD with a minimum of foreign intrusiveness and loss of face. Indeed, this remained the goal to the end of the Regime, as the starting of any WMD program, conspicuous or otherwise, risked undoing the progress achieved in eroding sanctions and jeopardizing a political end to the embargo and international monitoring.”

The introduction of the Oil-For-Food program (OFF) in late 1996 was a key turning point for the Regime. OFF rescued Baghdad’s economy from a terminal decline created by sanctions. The Regime quickly came to see that OFF could be corrupted to acquire foreign exchange both to further undermine sanctions and to provide the means to enhance dual-use infrastructure and potential WMD-related development.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

Still, as John Podhoretz notes, the left-wing glee at Allen’s apparently self-inflicted plight is understandable:

Having said that, I’m getting genuinely insane e-mail following a few Atrios postings about my “Who the heck is Claude Allen” posts in the past few days—e-mails accusing me of “lying” to “cover up” for the White House and then cursing me out in the language of eleven year-olds (I know who did it, I know!.) This suggests to me that the next few weeks are going to feature some wild theorizing according to which Karl Rove and the President assigned Claude Allen to steal from Target. The Bush haters can’t even allow themselves to enjoy their Schadenfreude.

By getalife

March 13, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

Liberals Suck And Lie,

Have a drink on me AC/DC, one of my favorites :

Whiskey, gin and brandy With a glass I’m pretty handy I’m trying to walk a straight line On sour mash and cheap wine So join me for a drink boys We’re gonna make a big noise

So don’t worry about tomorrow Take it today Forget about the check We’ll get hell to pay

Have a drink on me Have a drink on me Yeah Have a drink on me Have a drink on me On me

Come on

Dizzy, drunk and fightin’ On tequila white lightnin’ Yes my glass is getting shorter On whiskey, ice and water So come on and have a good time And get blinded out of your mind

So don’t worry about tomorrow Take it today Forget about the check We’ll get hell to pay

Have a drink on me Have a drink on me Have a drink on me Have a drink on me On me

Get stoned

Have a drink on me Have a drink on me Yeah Have a drink on me Come on Oooh

Gonna roll around Gonna hit the ground Take another swing Have another drink Gonna drink it dry Gonna get me high Come on all the boys Make a noise

CHORUS Have a drink on me Have a drink on me Have a drink on me Have a drink on me Have a drink on me Have a drink on me Have a drink on me Have a drink on me

Have a drink oooooooon me!

By Dusty

March 13, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

Well, folks, isn’t it time to sing “Nearer my God to Thee”? Surely Luckovich’s ship of negativity will sink soon. Semms like it has been sinking for days. Any guess as to what is coming? We’ve had rats, donkeys, elephants, and Bush looking like a monkey about every other cartoon. Maybe something refreshing like alligators, hyenas. wart hogs and those devils in Tasmania. Oh well, just wondering. ml seems a little late on the scribbling. We’ll all be singing soon.

Ah,dinner time…

By getalife

March 13, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this

He had his fingers crossed

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I think he may be torn between Claude Allen - alleged shoplifter, or Censure Feingold -alleged Presidential candidate.

By getalife

March 13, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

Maybe he will do this one

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

getalife: Here’s Russ Feingold’s new single-

You’re Not Here To Scold Me

(You’re not here to scold me anymore)

I wipe my shoes when I come through the door and I quit dropping ashes on the floor Every day I tidy up our room I’ve become an expert with the broom I’m not with the guys night after night I don’t stay out no more till broad day light I don’t do anything I did before oh but you’re not here to scold me anymore The silly little fights we had nobody understood When I was bad then you got mad but even that was good I changed a lot why I don’t even snore oh but you’re not here to scold me anymore [ strings ] My clothes I used to just throw down I now hang up myself My razor blades and grooving aids I put back in the shelf And I threw away that silly hat I wore oh but you’re not here to scold me anymore

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

And here’s Feingold’s blog:

The Common Scold is named after a cause of action that originated in Pilgrim days, when meddlesome, argumentative, opinionated women who displeased the Puritan elders were punished by a brisk dunk in the local pond.

By getalife

March 13, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

This is an all time classic:

The government wants us to get tuna fish and powder milk in case of the bird flu.

Like the duct tape and plastic for terrorism.

D’oh!

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this

Anybody seen Midori today?:

In the common law of crime in England a common scold was a species of public nuisance - a troublesome and angry woman who broke the public peace by habitually arguing and quarrelling with her neighbours. The Latin name for the offender, communis rixatrix, appears in the feminine gender, and makes it clear that only women could commit this crime.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 06:32 PM | Link to this

LSAL,

It appears that the only way you can get someone to acknowledge your presence and your outburts is with hysteria, name calling and more outburts.

What did Dean Woermer say about not going thru life drunk and stupid?

Anyway, how you doing today?

See you’ve been Googling.

It’s good to see you are trying to stay occupied.

I’ve been keeping myself occupied by scanning over your obvious need for recognition.

Thanks for giving me an entrance.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this

Take the Lou Dobbs poll

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this

You’re quite welcome, Midori: We missed all of you.

By nucular

March 13, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

Midori - nice to see you. And the cap-wearing little men who attack you. They become aggressive this time of day as they sip their life-support.

Hey! Today Bushie said problems in Iraq are the fault of…Iran! Makes sense to me. Let’s have our ghost army invade Iran tomorrow. Past due time to impeach Bush, imprison Bush, consider executing Bush.

I see that lil Dusty is out for “dinner.” What do you suppose white-trash eat for dinner?? Shucks - wish I could spend more time here. But I’m off to pick up my tunafish. I’ve not read the details - are we supposed to get new or used tunafish? “Freedom and Democracy are on the march!”

By JJG

March 13, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

I can put up with a lot, but I WILL NOT tolerate right-wing kooks quoting any rock and roll! You miserable pukes are the spawn of those retards that burned Beatles records. Do not EVER use anything other than Lee Greenwood and Loretta Lynn lyrics. It’s WAY too late for you mopes to ever pretend to be cool (or smart, or compassionate, or…) You better free your minds instead.

By Proud to be Dubya

March 13, 2006 07:08 PM | Link to this

“I think younger workers — first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits the government — promises that have been promised, benefits that we can’t keep. That’s just the way it is.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 4, 2005

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this

Sorry….been busy today…happy to be back.

I suspect OO is not around now. She opined what she thought I must be like in a post some other day. I was thinking about what she must be like. Came up with this:

Perhaps you’ve seen a movie titled “About Schmidt”. Now then, Jack Nicholson’s character is relaxing in an outdoor hot tub. A character played by Kathy Bates approaches the hot tub, drops her towel, and gets in the hot tub.

That image of OO is BURNED into my retinas.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 07:21 PM | Link to this

[Concern over Iraq drives Bush’s rating to new low Americans pessimistic about course of war

Monday, March 13, 2006; Posted: 6:48 p.m. EST (23:48 GMT)

WASHINGTON CNN — Public opinion of President Bush hit a new low, with concerns about the war in Iraq driving his approval rating down to 36 percent, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll out Monday.](http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/13/bush.poll/index.html)

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:23 PM | Link to this

We missed all of you.

You talk to Elvis too, I’ll bet.

Your hackneyed accusations are quite old. And quite telling.

As I’ve mentioned before, you’ve been pulling this crap for several months now.

So indicative of you and your party — you always need someone, anyone to beat up on. Anything to take the attention away from yourself.

Next thing you’ll be demanding a DNA sample from me.

Elvis got any new music coming out soon?

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

SS&S….You’re correct…..I do attack, but only those deserving of it.

Andy/LS&L/etc. is the focus of much of my venom because he feels he can use words like “pinko” with impunity. He is a Bed Wetter who wakes up in the middle of the night screaming that we are being invaded by terrorists. He is the first person in line to cede our personal freedoms to this fascist administration.

RW and I exchange a few barbs, but I respect his intellect, though I do question the way in which he dodges certain issues…too professional….perhaps on the payroll of a conservative think tank.

I nailed OO recently because she chose to attack me. No explanation necessary.

If you read all my posts, you will understand that I seek only the truth, and I hope others will acknowledge it rather than try to spin it. I have been an Independent since 1970, when I was a GI trying to understand how my government had stuck it to me and realized that Dems & Reps had put me there.

I have overcome that anger, but remain Independent. So I feel free and qualified to criticize any administration for its failures and/or shortcomings. This administration provides a neverending supply of both.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:25 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

At least she doesn’t “create” a bunch of posters and try to finger you for it.

But then again………..

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 07:25 PM | Link to this

Bush: Iraqi Unity Defies Insurgents Monday, March 13, 2006

WASHINGTON — Perpetrators of violence in Iraq are trying to provoke a civil war to prevent democracy from blooming in the Arab nation, but Iraqis aren’t being led into it, President Bush said Monday.

The restraint called for by sectarian leaders in the face of massive provocation, particularly after the bombing of a Shiite shrine in Sumarra last month, shows that the Iraqis are committed to freedom, he said.

Nonetheless, he said, “terrorists are losing on the field of battle so they are fighting this war though the pictures we see on the television and in the newspapers every day. They’re hoping to shake our resolve and force our retreat. They are not going to succeed.”

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

Andy/LS&L/etc. is the focus of much of my venom because he feels he can use words like “pinko” with impunity. He is a Bed Wetter who wakes up in the middle of the night screaming that we are being invaded by terrorists. He is the first person in line to cede our personal freedoms to this fascist administration.

maybe that’s why he keeps hurling his jack a$$ accusations my way.

I suppose I’m a terraist, too.

The one person on this blog who is so transparent about changing identities tries to throw up a smoke screen, using me as his whipping post.

He’s so transparent, it’s laughable.

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this

JJG,

Sorry to diabuse you of your really stupid stereotypes, but I worked in the record industry for nearly 20 years in big old New York City - not in Nashville. I guarantee you that I count more “recording artists” and other “industry types” as friends than you can ever dream of.

Like myself, conservatives in general are very fond of people like Bob Dylan, and I don’t know a one who burned anyone’s records, although I’ll admit that I did intentionally break a copy of “Inna Godda Da vida Baby” once.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 07:32 PM | Link to this

SS&S: Isn’t N-GA just wonderful? Such a great, wise leader that we can all emulate and follow to the ends of the Earth? He so strong and powerful, at least that’s what he thinks.

Truth be told, he’s a wanker, stupidly vicious and a liar to boot. Other than that, he sucks.

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 07:33 PM | Link to this

Earlier today I posted the following problems I blame completely on this administration:

Why can’t there be a dialog between people that agree that these problems are REAL? Then focus on what should be done to fix them. Remember, the GOP controls BOTH houses of Congress.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 07:38 PM | Link to this

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this

Poll: Bush approval rating hits new low

By Mark Memmott, USA TODAY President Bush’s “approval rating” has sunk to a new low according to a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup poll released Monday.

The latest results show only 36% of those polled saying they “approve” of the way Bush is handling his job. Bush’s previous low was 37%, set last November.

Sixty percent of those polled said they “disapprove” of Bush’s performance. That matches an all-time worst rating hit last November and again two weeks ago.

Democrats have their biggest advantage since 1992 when poll respondents are asked if they favor Democratic or Republican congressional candidates. The spread: Democrats over Republicans 55% — 39%, a 16-percentage-point gap.

The public’s approval rating of Bush, according to the poll, slipped below 50% last May and has been hovering just above or below 40% since October. Two weeks ago, Bush’s approval rating was 38%.

The latest poll of 1,001 adults has a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points and was conducted March 10-12. Its results closely resemble those reported last week in an Associated Press/Ipsos poll. That survey put Bush’s approval rating at 37% — matching the AP/Ipsos poll’s all-time low.

The war in Iraq appears to be the biggest factor in Bush’s ratings. Public opinion on the situation there has turned sour.

Asked two years ago if they were “certain that the U.S. will win” the war with Iraq, 79% of those polled said yes. The answer last weekend: 22%.

The other side of that question has turned sharply as well. Two years ago, just 1% of those polled thought it was unlikely or certain that the U.S. would not win the war with Iraq. The latest result: 41%.

The USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup poll also showed:

• 57% said sending U.S. troops to Iraq was a mistake — up from 55% two weeks earlier and the highest reading since a 59% result last October.

• 67% said the president does not have “a clear plan for handling the situation in Iraq.” That was an all-time high. But 68% also said Democrats in Congress do not have such a plan.

• Democrats fared better than Republicans on whether they would do a better job of handling “the situation in Iraq.” The split: 48% for Democrats, 40% for Republicans.

By Proud to be Dubya

March 13, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

“It’s in our country’s interests to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm’s way.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005

By N-GA

March 13, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

Hey Midori,

I’m sure you saw the Bed Wetter’s latest post. See how easy it is to set him off. I bet we can “ping-pong” him between us for hours, or as long as his ritalin-enhanced attention span will let him stay focused. If the federal funds to house the insane were still available, the Bed Wetter would be in an institution with no web access. Those were the days…..

By Daniel

March 13, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

N-GA: The problems are all real. You leeft out: Crises of confidence. No one believes these people. There can never be a dialogue with the head cases on this blog. A dialogue requires give and take. They only take. They don’t want to know what you think. They want to lecture, blame, insult, threaten and whine. Cowards all.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this

wanker: Those problems only exist in your mind. You made them up. If you want someone to react to your hysterics, try the mental ward.

I like it here in reality, if you don’t mind.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this

Well, gosh, the hijackers just happen to be here, already. How lucky for us.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

you may be onto something there.

His retorts are on grade school level, and just as funny.

By buff

March 13, 2006 07:56 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Iraq - bad war, unwinnable, naw, bad war, but winnable

Deficit - bigger than ever, not if you consider GDP, but still abysmal

Social Security - still not fixed Medicare - still not fixed, he didn’t create them, and when he tried to offer solutions he was excoriated by the AARP, the left, and even some from the right

OBL - still missing in action, uh, uh, did any other administration have the option of getting this guy on a silver platter, hmmmm, hmmm, who was that Prez?

Trade deficit - bigger than ever, well, doesn’t that let the “poor,” whom I despise, boy more “stuff?”

Corruption - at the highest levels, yep, it is called POLITICS

World opinion - America is arrogant, if France, Germany, Russian, China et al. approve, I disapprove, Screw ‘em. We are the big dog and will be the moving target until we fall, and, the left will see that that happens

Energy - the real raping of Americans, if you can’t afford it, don’t buy it, put on a sweater, get a VW Bug

Education - getting dumber every day, blame the teacher’s unions and those that oppose vouchers, although the NCLB is a travesty

Environment - corporate-friendly policy, on the one hand you whine about energy policies, but want the govt. to crack down on corps. Look, corps just pass along taxes TO US

I have never voted for Bush, do not particularly like him, but, he is not responsible for all of the country’s ills. And, if the Dems want to gain power they have to drop these kinds of lists and get A PLATFORM OF THEIR OWN; THEY CANNOT WIN JUST BY BEING ANTI-BUSH

Off to play poker on the net

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:56 PM | Link to this

LSAL,

Let me repeat that:

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:57 PM | Link to this

LSAL:

One more time. I know how completely stupid you are, and I want you to understand what I’m saying:

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:58 PM | Link to this

LSAL:

Pay attention now. This is the last time I’m going to say this:

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Ken G

March 13, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this

Is this the WORST President I have had in my lifetime? He is the WORST PRESIDENT in the history of this great country. I am a registered Republican and I am embarrassed at the fact that I voted for this guy. Please forgive me!

By JJG

March 13, 2006 08:02 PM | Link to this

Who cares about approval ratings. Either you voted for the idiot or you didn’t. If you did and you don’t like his ineptitude and immorality now, too freakin’ bad for the rest of us. And if you voted for him and still think he’s worth a damn as a president, too bad for you! But either way, hating Bush doesn’t help much. Better to send all of those red-state fools and chickenhawks who voted for him, and his goons, to Iraq with no body armor and let them demonstrate their support! And let’s face it, the Dems are really no better. They also seem to be a bunch of spineless suck ups who are more interested in their political and financial survival than standing up these thugs.

By Daniel

March 13, 2006 08:02 PM | Link to this

Midori: I love your posts. Hang in there. It’s going to get a lot worse. We are a leaderless, betrayed nation. We’re going to need all the strength we can muster. We suffer under the “Enron Government”. This thing is going to crumble like a house of cards. This too, will pass.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 08:03 PM | Link to this

Midori: I thought you were going to ignore me?

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

It’s that special way I have that keeps them coming back to me. Every single one of her.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:06 PM | Link to this

LSAL:

I’m not done yet.

I’ll start ignoring you when I’m ready, and not before.

To reiterate:

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:08 PM | Link to this

By Liberals Suck And Lie

Mrch 13, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

It’s that special way I have that keeps them coming back to me. Every single one of her.

HERE I COME AGAIN

By Midori

March 13, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:08 PM | Link to this

LSAL: Guess who I am now:

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

It’s that special way I have that keeps them coming back to me. Every single one of her.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:09 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Daniel.

And when it crumbles, I’ll be the first to offer suck a hankie.

NOT!!

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:12 PM | Link to this

LSAL:

Ollie, Ollie, Oxen Free!!!

Peek-a-boo!!!!

Guess who I am now!!!!

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this

Hey Moron,

sorry, I forgot the rest of my text in the 8:08 post.

here ya go:

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry everyone. I got off my meds and I get kind of crazy and can’t think straight. As soon as I can figure out all this Medicaid stuff then I can get back on my meds. In the meantime just ignore me. It won’t get any better.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 08:17 PM | Link to this

Boy, I sure would like to know how Midori can see posts and respond to them with her response showing up within 3 minutes. That’s a pretty good trick, unless you’re an insider.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:20 PM | Link to this

Oh, come on Suck. Gimme some more of that retarded wit and wisdom.

You wanna read my post again, is that is?

Ok, here you go:

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By RW-(the original)

March 13, 2006 08:22 PM | Link to this

LS&L,

I don’t think it would too hard since all she does is copy the same post over and over.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:22 PM | Link to this

I see you want some more.

Ok.

and feel free to copy and past along with me.

Isn’t this fun????

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 08:17 PM | Link to this

Boy, I sure would like to know how Midori can see posts and respond to them with her response showing up within 3 minutes. That’s a pretty good trick, unless you’re an insider.

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:24 PM | Link to this

Oh, S-u-c-k,

Yes, I have the “inside” track.

I know deep inside you’re a true moron.

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:26 PM | Link to this

Come on, Suck. Tell me what else I did, am doing or am thinking of doing. You’re wasting valuable screeching time.

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:29 PM | Link to this

Ah, I see RW has joined the feast.

By RW-(the original)

March 13, 2006 08:22 PM | Link to this

LS&L,

I don’t think it would too hard since all she does is copy the same post over and over.

Have some on me!!

BTW: Don’t you have a poll to create?

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:30 PM | Link to this

RW,

Here’s a good poll question:

How many times will Midori cut and paste the same reply before she gets bored?

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:33 PM | Link to this

Hmmmmmm,

Isn’t it mighty suspicious how RW showed up just in time to cheerlead and throw his support and agreement behind LSAL?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm………….

Midori: Don’t worry I plan on sticking with this new name, Liberals Suck And Lie. I’ve taken quite a fancy to it. Plus I don’t mind you using it for any of your fake post hijackings, it still gets my message out. It’s like a kidnap victim with a cellphone.

As I stated, I post using my real name. That is the only name I post under.

Look at it this way: who and what are you that I need to explain myself to you?

Having said that, I’m glad for you that you finally found one name to stick to.

After seeing you post so many deluded and crazy rants, I can see why you need to constantly point fingers and hurl baseless accusations.

I suppose you chose to make me the object of your allegations because I stand up for myself — something that you seem to have great difficulty accomplishing.

All you do is fling feces like a monkey in a cage.

To keep people from treading carefully and avoid stepping in your excrement, you have to yell: but wait!!! look over there!!! Midori is doing this!!! Midori is doing that!!!

I see you’re completely resigned in making these false allegations. It’s ok. Anything to help.

Cause you definitely need all the help one can muster.

And you need help mopping all of that sh*t off the floor.

That I can’t help you with.

I had a conversation with another poster on this blog, and we belong to another web community.

That person is 100 percent correct in his assertion that you just need to be ignored. No matter what anyone says to you, you just get shriller and goofier in your delusions and your own reality. Then you want to play General in getting your little gaggle of vermin together in attacking me based on your off the wall conspiracies.

So, accuse on. Create all the conspiracies you want. I’m not going to crawl down in your fetid sewer any more. Rock on, Baby.

Rock on.

By Midori

March 13, 2006 08:34 PM | Link to this

ok, I’m bored with you cretins now.

I have to go clean out my cats litter boxes.

LSAL: what’s your address?

By finch

March 13, 2006 08:48 PM | Link to this

Midori,

You have to admit that after awhile it gets boring when you provoke suck repeatedly.

It’s really easy, because suck is truly stuck on stupid. But it’s just not worth the smell.

By Objective Observer

March 13, 2006 08:51 PM | Link to this

N-GA:

Well now you have REALLY hurt my feelings!!!!!! You had better move over, cause here comes aaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiii CAAAAANNNNOOOOOOOOONNBAAALLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!

SWOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Wrong image! But if Kathy is the one that does it for you, I’m happy to have given you that lasting impression.

By Liberals Suck And Lie

March 13, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

finch: Just about as boring as you are here on the dead thread, all by yourself…

By Buy Danish

March 13, 2006 08:56 PM | Link to this

Apparently Midori suffers from Tourettes Syndrome. Poor girl is disabled, and cannot help it if she repeats herself and her obscenities like an out of control parrot trained by a drunken sailor.

One thing that I just ADORE about Midori is how she complains that some of us change our names back and forth because of her Name-Jacking Wanker Friends, whom she cheers on with mob-style abandon. What irony!

Time to send her to the scolding chair for a little water-boarding.

By whynot

March 13, 2006 09:38 PM | Link to this

Midori, anybody ever tell you, you talk too much?

By Finn

March 14, 2006 12:34 AM | Link to this

Midori: take these freaks off your mind, kid. RW, Danish, and now SUCK. Sounds a little tunafishy to me. Could be they all live together and SUCK is the middleman. Very interesting.

By WashingtonState

March 14, 2006 03:54 AM | Link to this

It is incredible how much progress we have made in Iraq since September I mean really incredible.

By Buy Danish

March 14, 2006 08:00 AM | Link to this

finn,

Sure thing genius. It’s just not possible that numerous people find Midori obnoxious.

Meanwhile if you have anything to contribute to this blog, I’m all ears.

By Don Nichols

March 15, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

The job of a political cartoonist is to ridicule the ridiculous and offend the offensive. Few have done better than Mike, the Atlanta paper is lucky to have him.