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By RW-(the original)
February 28, 2006 07:04 PM | Link to this
Of course OBL endorsed Kerry, I saw it on SNL.
By Scooter
February 28, 2006 07:05 PM | Link to this
This is so obtuse it is funny.
By DavidU
February 28, 2006 07:05 PM | Link to this
Ok, these keep getting funnier and funnier.
By Midori
February 28, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this
cue hearty belly laugh
Mike, Mike, Mike
are you in the zone, or what? :)
By Midori
February 28, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this
they just keep getting better and better
By Andy
February 28, 2006 07:18 PM | Link to this
Where’s the cave dweller’s cell phone at? Can’t cartoon boy lend a little authenticity to this drawing, you ever seen a driver without one pressed to their ear? Oh, wait, Bush listens in on the terrorists phone converstions, I forgot about that. Bin Ladentorest is pretty much cut off from his followers, great point you make there, Luckovich.
Look, he’s even trying not to attract attention to himself with that non chalant whistling, there must be some hardcore Conservatives nearby.
By RW-(the original)
February 28, 2006 07:21 PM | Link to this
ml, As it turns out I like this cartoon. It clearly shows the liberals myopic fixation with Bush that they can’t even see the most wanted man on the planet right in front of them. Good Job! Show these moonbats for what they really are.
By Scooter
February 28, 2006 07:27 PM | Link to this
Midori, with the endless astonishment at ML’s comedic slant, you may earn you a gift from ML himself
By getalife
February 28, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this
Bush said OBL helped him.
By candide
February 28, 2006 07:51 PM | Link to this
Since I live in a gated community I see “W” stickers all the time. I also wonder how they can keep the faith. “W” has been the worst president in US history, even given Buchanan and Harding.
By Midori
February 28, 2006 07:56 PM | Link to this
Scooter,
It appears that, much like taste, you are also lacking in a sense of humor.
Don’t you morons ever get tired of whining? It’s so counterproductive.
Why don’t you cruise the net for some conservative cartoonists that you like?
I don’t see Mike or anyone else begging for your opinion, or for you to post on this blog.
I’m just sayin…….
By Midori
February 28, 2006 07:58 PM | Link to this
Candide - don’t forget his ancestor, Franklin Pierce.
I suppose incompetency runs in the family.
By Midori
February 28, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this
RW,
Bush himself heaped praise on Bin Laden.
See Getalife’s post.
Hiya, Getalife :)
By RW-(the original)
February 28, 2006 08:08 PM | Link to this
Midori,
Maybe you need some reading comprehension classes if you think Bush was heaping praise on OBL in that link. Did you get beyond the headline this time?
just sayin…
By DCM
February 28, 2006 08:19 PM | Link to this
BWAAAHAAHAA! Good One Mike! “W”orst President Ever Love Your Country Hate the President
By mike
February 28, 2006 08:31 PM | Link to this
Please. Bin-Laden has gotten his biggest support from liberal clowns like Michael Moore, Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Bob Herbert, Paul Krugman the idiots on the AJC board led by Mike Luckovich the ignorant bigot.
By MidoriIsAnIdiot
February 28, 2006 08:33 PM | Link to this
Midori is too stupid to talk to. Don’t bother with that idiot racist.
By Objective Observer
February 28, 2006 08:35 PM | Link to this
Now this is one is funny and can be viewed through a wide panoramic lense. We need more like this one. I wonder if ml realized this when he drew it. Oh well, I’ll take ‘em when I can get ‘em.
By MidoriIsAnIdiot
February 28, 2006 08:36 PM | Link to this
Midori bleats “I don’t see Mike or anyone else begging for your opinion, or for you to post on this blog.”
I love how liberals criticize others for posting on this board. Liberal hypocrisy strikes again.
You idiot liberals do know what hypocrisy is don’t you?
By Tar Heel Bred bleeds Tar Heel Blue
February 28, 2006 08:57 PM | Link to this
This cartoon is soooooo true because W really is a terrorist’s best friend. With the on-going bungled invasion of Iraq being the TOP recruiting tool and training ground for Al-Qadea, off-the-charts budget and trade deficits, sky-high energy prices and ridiculously astronomically high health-care costs just to name a few….who needs enemies like Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden when we’ve got friends like George W. Bush?
By Brian Curtis
February 28, 2006 09:01 PM | Link to this
I doubt Traitor Bush realizes how much he’s helping Al Qaeda and terrorism with his knee-jerk, ineffectual responses… but the fact that he’s helping them is undeniable.
By geechee
February 28, 2006 09:04 PM | Link to this
Red staters/blue staters, liberals/ conservatives, peace lovers/war mongers, pro Bush/anti Bush……..whatever, I can’t tell the difference between any of you anymore.
All I know is this is the latest headline from the AP Civil War Looms With 68 Killed in Baghdad
Our gallant fighting men and women are stuck in the middle of a friggin civil war and we don’t even have an idea of which side we are on. These are Americans and they are about to be sitting ducks caught in the middle and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
Forget about diplomacy, forget about saving face, forget that we started this whole mess, forget about that maniac bin Laden, forget about everything except getting those troops out now before anymore of them die for some other country that hates our bloody guts. I am an American taxpayer and I want those troops out now. I want them back on safe ground. Back with their families who need them
That’s all I had to say, now you can go back to hating each other like the fools that you are. Aloha
By JC
February 28, 2006 09:06 PM | Link to this
How about that 34% approval rating? Nice. The barbaric reactionary conservative bumpkins on this site are part of the 1/3 of the country (1/3!) that are still suckers for Bush. We can make a list a mile long of the things this administration has screwed up, but you’d be hard pressed to name two that it’s done right. There’s now even a split in the republican party because everyone in congress knows what dead weight the president has becom,e and they can no longer justify his mistakes. They also know he’s going to make them lose their jobs. He’s a you-nah-dur, not a div-ah-dur and he can’t keep the world, 66% of Americans, or his own party on his side. Nice.
By Fred
February 28, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this
Midori: SCOOTER’S just another of the geeks here who we sit on as we ride him downhill on his belly. He’s been that way all his life.
Note how these “tough guys” love to insult women. The ONLY people they can be tough with. Women and children. In real life they dare not open their gutless mouths. I’m always looking - but it just NEVER happens.
Hey! I see Bush is on his way to INDIA. They enjoy some strange habits. Maybe someone will eat the nasty little SOB!
By Ralph
February 28, 2006 09:17 PM | Link to this
Is that homophobic Homo Andy talking again? Maybe he’ll bring his friend Jesus and mend us all.
But how will he cut through those hundreds of layers of his hatred, bitterness, jealousy and rage? (See Andy & Jesus on 02/25/06 at 6:04 PM) Impressive stuff.
By Tar Heel Bred bleeds Tar Heel Blue
February 28, 2006 09:21 PM | Link to this
Nah Fred, they’re not going to eat him because it’s obvious that he has no nutritional valve, besides if they ate him they might not keep getting all of our high-paying corporate and technical jobs.
By Steve
February 28, 2006 09:26 PM | Link to this
Oh yes. Andy and the other religion-spouting Nazicans here on this blog.
Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a Car.
By Fred
February 28, 2006 09:31 PM | Link to this
TAR: Bah Gawd, you got a point there! Couple of em. Thanx. Nice to see some sense here! - I’m off to din-din. RC’s and Moon Pies tonite. Gawd, I love Tuesdays!
By George
February 28, 2006 09:37 PM | Link to this
Thanks Geechee for a dose of reality. Now the headline says “At Least 75 Dead in String of Attacks in Iraq”.
The nastiness of this blog gets old and unfortunately some of the people really like it that way. Not the type of people that you really want to associate with in real life.
In the meantime, our friends and neighbors are coming home in body bags trying to do the right thing for a misguided policy and the country that we are trying to save is becoming unglued.
Regardless of how we got there, it is time to bring our troops home since we can’t even identify who the “enemy” is there anymore. Are they terrorists or just people who don’t like the people of the other religion.
That is not for us to decide. We did our best but now it is time to let the country determine its own future.
By kimberly
February 28, 2006 09:37 PM | Link to this
Good one, Mike! Of COURSE Bin Laden supports Der Dubya! Their families have done business together for years! Bush even SAID that Bin Laden helped with his election in 2004 with his October TV spot. But I knew that the minute I saw the spot. Hey, that’s what friends DO for each other!
By JC
February 28, 2006 09:54 PM | Link to this
Here’s a profile of the few Bush supporters left in this country:
Drive pick up trucks; Homophobic (but latently homosexual); Barely high school educated; Like to kill things (but are too scared to be around anything that shoots back); White; Pretend to want an education for their kids but deny all evidence in science and history; Think going to church makes them good people; Think getting paid a lot of money makes someone smart; Covertly racist and overtly sexist; “Intelligent” and “ethical” enough to think that not using cells that are going to be thrown away is more important than curing heart disease and paralysis. Will tell you about the constitution but have never read it.
Oh, and now they comprise 34% of the country and their numbers are shrinking. Maybe there are positive changes on the horizon.
By Scooter
February 28, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this
I’ve got a make up gift for all the bush bashers in here. Lets make up. Here’s a quote that fits your objective of US retreat and failure in Iraq. It may happen yes, but I am hoping for the best. Are you?
Anyway, here is your qoute;
“Rebuilding the railroads, essential to the country’s economic recovery, was a US and Iraqi priority from Day 1. But despite $220 million in US aid, reconstruction has gone awry, with a lack of security, and rampant corruption taking a heavy toll. Like the country’s electrical output, water treatment, and oil production, the railways are operating at just 3 percent of their prewar capacity, according to railroad officials.”
So what it is according to Iraqi railroad officials, it is after all what you want to hear.
Hopefuly the Iraqis will one day exemplify to the Middle-East that the USA is a liberating country. Not a colonizing country like our “allies” France, Russia and Great Brittain.
By Glad_I'm_Smarter_Than_That_34%!
February 28, 2006 10:11 PM | Link to this
This blog is tiresome..same old nutcakes. Bottom line is…we broke Iraq; they are teetering on the verge of civil war; our men and women are coming back dead, or broken…not just physically….more and more are being diagnosed with mental illnesses courtesy of Dubya’s Big Folly. The port deal? First..he didn’t know about it until it was reported, yet pulled a “Good job, Brownie!” on it when he spoke of it…until he was outed about not even knowing about it…and the UAE did have ties to the hijackers.
Who’s stupid and crazy????? Apparently NOT the 66% who see the light…
Poor, poor RW and Andy…crawl back under that slimy old prehistoric rock you call home…we’ll wake you when Armeggeddon arrives….
By DavidU
February 28, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this
Contract? What contract?
By gadem
February 28, 2006 10:46 PM | Link to this
Something to make you laugh
By Hello? It's over
February 28, 2006 11:28 PM | Link to this
An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year, and nearly one in four say the troops should leave immediately, a new Le Moyne College/Zogby International survey shows.
The poll, conducted in conjunction with Le Moyne College’s Center for Peace and Global Studies, showed that 29% of the respondents, serving in various branches of the armed forces, said the U.S. should leave Iraq “immediately,� while another 22% said they should leave in the next six months. Another 21% said troops should be out between six and 12 months, while 23% said they should stay “as long as they are needed.�
Different branches had quite different sentiments on the question, the poll shows. While 89% of reserves and 82% of those in the National Guard said the U.S. should leave Iraq within a year, 58% of Marines think so. Seven in ten of those in the regular Army thought the U.S. should leave Iraq in the next year. Moreover, about three-quarters of those in National Guard and Reserve units favor withdrawal within six months, just 15% of Marines felt that way. About half of those in the regular Army favored withdrawal from Iraq in the next six months.
By Buy Danish
February 28, 2006 11:40 PM | Link to this
This might be funny if it weren’t for the fact that it is far worse to still have a Kerry Edwards sticker on your car. Nobody like them even when they were voting for them. Why advertise the fact that you voted for a bunch of losers who you didn’t even like?
And, isn’t it Kerry who quotes Bin Laden when he makes his pompous Sunday morning “commentary”?
ML, this may not be known in your circle of libdems because you’re so busy patting yourselves on the back, but those who actually finish the newspaper know that Bush thanked Bin Laden for opposing him.
For humor to work it has to make sense. Besides, UBL drives a camel.
By clark
February 28, 2006 11:47 PM | Link to this
Dust; You ride camels, not drive.
By finch
February 28, 2006 11:48 PM | Link to this
Sh-iites Told: Leave Home Or Be Killed
“With sectarian violence rampant since last week’s bombing of a Sh-iite shrine in Samarra, the families have become symbols of an emerging trend in Iraq: the expulsion of Sh-iites from Sunni towns.”
And the beat goes on….
By Pink Salmon
March 1, 2006 12:06 AM | Link to this
Code Pink alert, Code Pink alert, all pinkys on deck!!
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 12:12 AM | Link to this
Pink Salmon,
We gave them nearly three hours tonight with almost no interference and look what a mess they made out of the place.
By clark
March 1, 2006 12:24 AM | Link to this
RW; We gave them nearly three hours tonight with almost no interference and look what a mess they made out of the place.
Because you had nothing to say about the articles cited. You have to wait until Rush tell you the talking points for the day tomorrow, so we’ll wait for the party line regarding: troop morale, Halliburton taking more tax money from us and Increased violence in Iraq.
I think that’s all for now, go memorize the answers, and comeback. When you comeback with your response, we can talk about more problems caused by BushCo
By Pink Salmon
March 1, 2006 12:25 AM | Link to this
Ugly, very ugly, angry Volvo and Saab drivers…They’re the worst.
By Scott
March 1, 2006 12:28 AM | Link to this
Danish - before one can have a sense of humor one must first have SENSE. That immediately disqualifies you.
And for all you Bushistas out there, remember: IRAQ was lost long before the first shot was ever fired. The rest of the world knows that. Only some ignorant Americans do not. Pitiful.
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 12:29 AM | Link to this
clark,
Just go read yesterday’s thread and you will find all your answers to your dated stories. I don’t dwell in your world I look ahead.
By clark
March 1, 2006 12:34 AM | Link to this
RW; * I don’t dwell in your world I look ahead.*
Now you are the one that sounds elitist. careful RW you buddies might start looking at you funny, and decide to label you a pinko if you do that.
By Pink Salmon
March 1, 2006 12:34 AM | Link to this
By clark
February 28, 2006 11:47 PM | Link to this
Dust; You ride camels, not drive.
Ok clark, here’s the answer to your one question. No, Dust does not ride camels instead of driving. It’s illegal to ride a camel on the Interstate.
By clark
March 1, 2006 12:39 AM | Link to this
Salmon; ok!
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 12:43 AM | Link to this
clark,
My friends know me and know my heart and that includes my friends here that don’t physically know me. They would never question me based on the way some statement I make might read to you. Only liberals spin their beliefs based on the flavor of the day. Conservatives are true to their beliefs and loyal to their friends.
This might be difficult for you to understand, but it isn’t for them. You see they are also moving forward and looking out for the best things in life with the full understanding that those things always exist in the future.
By clark
March 1, 2006 12:43 AM | Link to this
RW; From what I saw, you spent your day trying with all your might to see if your cool word “SeeBS” would catch on. And it didn’t, that had to hurt. Better luck next time.
By clark
March 1, 2006 12:47 AM | Link to this
You see they are also moving forward and looking out for the best things in life with the full understanding that those things always exist in the future.
Yes, yes, yes. Thats why you guys bring up Clinton and Carter all the time. YEs the Future. Got it!
By clark
March 1, 2006 12:48 AM | Link to this
Off to the Airport. Night to the blogger on the left/right.
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 12:51 AM | Link to this
Another well thought out response, clark. What time did the Mensa meeting end? Sorry I can’t take credit for the word it’s quite old, but descriptive don’t you think?
By clark
March 1, 2006 12:52 AM | Link to this
Last one and then I really have to go catch this flight.
RW; Conservatives are true to their beliefs and loyal to their friends
Yeah, we know. just ask Whittington of how loyal Cheney was to him as he shot him. It’s great to have those kinds of friends, those that will shoot you in the face.
By Pink Salmon
March 1, 2006 12:53 AM | Link to this
Sheesh, flavor of the day, it was Pink Salmon today. They dance around their “carefully worded” biased polls like it was Lord of the Flies.
No Shiat, we’re going to “start” pulling out by the end of the year. Who said we were not?
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 01:07 AM | Link to this
clark,
Part of looking ahead to a brighter future also includes making sure the failures of the past can’t be repeated, so Clinton and Carter have to be reintroduced from time to time.
Did you notice how Cheney and Whittington both took the blame and agreed that it was an accident? Seems to prove my point, have a good flight.
Pink Salmon,
I guess they don’t realize that a lot of our military says we should be heading home by the end of the year because they know how successful they have been. I’m always amazed that liberals will claim defeat at the drop of a hat, but success can never be acknowledged.
By finch
March 1, 2006 01:10 AM | Link to this
RW,
“Only liberals spin their beliefs based on the flavor of the day. Conservatives are true to their beliefs and loyal to their friends.”
Present company excluded, I hope.
Or I’ll stop pimping your blog!
See you tomorrow!
By Pink Salmon
March 1, 2006 01:11 AM | Link to this
They cry baby cry, make your Mother sigh…
By Pink Salmon
March 1, 2006 01:17 AM | Link to this
RW, Unless it’s a success for the Dems…Otherwise, it’s Bushista this, Bushy that. Sad.
By Scott
March 1, 2006 01:27 AM | Link to this
Salmon: How about a list of those “successes” in Iraq. That shouldn’t be too tough for you. Take most people maybe 10 seconds. I’m hitting the rack now and will read all about it tomorrow. Or whenever.
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 01:30 AM | Link to this
finch,
No you are a much more stubborn liberal and you also know that a little broad brushing has to be allowed or we will all sound like a bunch of politically correct kindergarten teachers.
Pink Salmon,
They aren’t very good at recognizing their own success either. They hammered away at how there was no threat of terrorism to the point that the argument was starting to work. The UAE ports deal came along and BANG there is now an Arab terrorist hiding around every corner. Blind political opportunists will never carry the day in the real world.
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 01:46 AM | Link to this
I guess the 11:28 goofball didn’t pay the twenty bucks for the rest of the story.
By DavidU
March 1, 2006 03:44 AM | Link to this
A majority of troops (53%) said the U.S. should double both the number of troops and bombing missions in order to control the insurgency.
The questions are to be taken separately in a poll. So there was a list of questions in which one of them was also: Should the US double both the number of troops and bombing missions in order to control the insurgency. It makes sense that a majority said yes. And like one of the member of the site stated, polls give all sorts of questions from important ones to: What do you think of the Brown and Root run Dining facilities? If they answered with a resounding 60% that it was great does that mean that they actually want to stay in Iraq because of the food instead of coming home?
What ever you think of polls, this one showed that soldier morale is down, which ever way you want to spin it.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 04:42 AM | Link to this
It says a lot about a liberal that they have to have a poll done so that they can tell right from wrong. You don’t hear very much from the “let’s fight Al Qaeda in New York, not Iraq” crowd until they have polls backing up there positions. Even manufactured polls will work for these war losers.
Our enemies are smarter than the liberals in America, that is sad. These Islamic killers are stone age religious fanatics, but they have the left in the United States dancing on a string; over nothing. They murder 61 innocent civilians, the left cowers before them.
This nation wasn’t built on weakness, it will be lost because of it.
By DavidU
March 1, 2006 04:47 AM | Link to this
U.S. President George W. Bush made a surprise visit to Afghanistan on Wednesday
He is also expected to preside over a ceremonial ribbon-cutting for the U.S. Embassy
Maybe we should wait until the cartoon fiasco dies down before we do that ;) ….J/k
By Morgan
March 1, 2006 04:51 AM | Link to this
Mike, thanks for your participation at the WAND event last evening. You really got the place rocking.
My bumper sticker is “F the president”
By Andy
March 1, 2006 05:08 AM | Link to this
Women’s Action for New Directions WAND (see 4:51) ^^^ empowers women. To take political action. To change our culture and our national priorities: Toward peace and real security. Away from militarism and violence.
Back to smoldering skyscrapers…..
By Andy
March 1, 2006 05:14 AM | Link to this
Newspapers like things that way with their carriers. They won’t employ them directly because the job is too dangerous, and it’s too costly to insure them and pay them properly. It’s much easier to push those costs onto the delivery person as a bogus “contractor” and try to escape the legal liabilities when it becomes necessary.
Newspaper editorial boards often like to stand up for the little guy, and call their employers to account when workers are treated unfairly.
Only when it involves other people’s money.
By DavidU
March 1, 2006 05:15 AM | Link to this
Andy - If you are going to quote something, quote it right
WAND empowers women to act politically to reduce violence and militarism, and redirect excessive military resources toward unmet human and environmental needs.
Or here
By Andy
March 1, 2006 05:21 AM | Link to this
Few observers suggested that the Samarra bombing of a holy mosque by radical Muslims might be a sign of the terrorists’ desperation—killers who have not, and cannot, defeat the U.S. military. After the furor over Danish cartoons, French rioting and Iranian nuclear perfidy, the entire world is turning on radical Islam and the terrorists feel keenly this rising tide of opposition on the frontline in Iraq.
Except for the sissy left in America, they want to surrender, go figure.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 05:30 AM | Link to this
DavidU: I’m just quoting the kooks.
I actually do like your post better.
By AntiRadical
March 1, 2006 06:28 AM | Link to this
Well since these guys are speaking English, driving new cars, and whistling a happy tune, the one driving the van must only look like OBL. Instead he is an AMERICAN of Arab descent. The far left wants to vilify him ‘cause he wraps his head and wears a robe. He’s proably going to work to feed his kids but what the heck, “he’s America’s new Nig-ga”, let’s kick him around some more!
By Andy
March 1, 2006 06:45 AM | Link to this
What the “intellectuals” in the left are too stupid to see:
Meanwhile, all our attempts to bolster Muslim self-esteem, our desperate protestations of respect for their wonderful religion, our groveling apologies for exercising our own rights and values, our donning of the hair-shirt of racist, colonialist, or imperialist guilt, do nothing more than convince the jihadist that his spiritual superiority is justified. He looks at our appeasement, our fear, our rationalizations, our self-doubt, our unwillingness to defend the values we preach to the world, and sees the craven inferiority of the dhimmi, the conquered infidel who must acknowledge by his public actions the superiority of Islam, and who must pay the jizya, the “poll tax� that purchases his trembling security. Only we call the poll tax “foreign aid� or “welfare payments,� and the gestures of submission “respect for diversity.� We think our submission buys us affection and gratitude and respect for our interests, but in fact it purchases nothing except more contempt for our spiritual bankruptcy, more scorn for our belief that money and material comfort trump spiritual truth.
What do you think will happen when we run out of tax money?
By Kevin
March 1, 2006 07:27 AM | Link to this
This is funny if gore did this u all be sayin what a great JOB he doin n so forth…….n u all be blastin the rep. party for not supportin the president ideas.So other way dem.party blast us no harm no foul. If gore are kerry in office doin same now n this was goin u all be cryin the Reps. are racist n stuff….shoe is same when put in place!
By Andy
March 1, 2006 07:29 AM | Link to this
It sure does say alot that the President of The United States can hang around in Afghanistan but Osama Bin Ladentorest can’t:
The president and his wife Laura stepped off Air Force One under a bright, sunny sky against a background of snowcapped mountains.
HAHAHAHA, these are the things Conservatives find to be funny, while the left is stuck rooting for a religious fanatic, murderer of innocent women and children, abuser of basic human rights. Don’t it figure?
Call me old fashioned but I think I’ll stick with rooting for Americans and freedom…
By jenn
March 1, 2006 07:44 AM | Link to this
I have one of those “F the President” stickers…
IT’S GREAT!
By Monica's Man
March 1, 2006 07:59 AM | Link to this
I have a bumper sticker that says “Liberals love the N Words”
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 08:00 AM | Link to this
Those “F-the President” stickers would have had a different meaning under the last President.
By N-GA
March 1, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this
I see the bed wetter is up early today, spewing his wacko view of the world. He says he’s sticking with rooting for Americans and freedom. So are all of us opposed to the actions of this fascist administration. I guess that the bed wetter is going to start voting more progressively.
Yup, the military on the ground want out. The numbers were amazing. Anyone who has actually served (on active duty) will remember that “lifers” actually support combat because that is the fastest way to get rank. It is well known that it is almost impossible to achieve field grade rank without some combat duty under your belt.
Hey Bed Wetter……same old nightmare last night? The terrorists coming to get you? Had to change your underwear this morning? How many times? Scared, huh?
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 08:08 AM | Link to this
Looks like the Citizens of Iraq had a rough morning today. Hope they can settle down and maintain the relative peace.
I know it was a wonderful and peaceful place before the fascist filure forced ther m to live up to their 12 year old agreement.
By Kerry
March 1, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this
Jenn, please reveal where others can buy that sticker. I’ll cover my car with it… This one is great and really seemed to hit a nerve as there has been a great deal of spewing on this site. Just go take another hit of whatever drug it is you’ve been taking the last couple of years that STILL has you supporting this loser.
By Brian Curtis
March 1, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this
I’ll try once more to interject some undisputable truths to you neocon fools:
*Iraq was not a threat; this has been proven. The invasion was, therefore, unnecessary.
*Terrorism IS a threat—just not one that’s so frightening we need to trample the Constitution to fight it.
And Al Qaeda is not the same as Iraq. To fight terrorism, you do not invade Iraq; you go after *Al Qaeda.
Meanwhile, two-thirds of the country (along with the rest of the world) is shaking their heads over your stupidity.
By N-GA
March 1, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this
Don’t worry, Brian. The fascist right that posts here will continue to ignore the facts. They love the tax cuts and ignore the deficits. They are oblivious to the corruption within their own ranks. They will dispute the polls, claim victory in Iraq, and denegrate all who criticize this pathetic administration. Their actions mimic those of the administration they so worship. I charge them with complicity in the criminal actions of their “leaders”.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this
Clark,
Presumably you have reached your destination by now, somewhere in the vicinity of Mars. On planet Earth, we don’t confuse “Accidents” with “Intentional Harm”. Now if you want to go on pushing the Cheney/Whittington story, go right ahead. Just know that the rest of the country has moved on to other pastures, so you’re going to have to really shout to get yourself heard.
Further, in response to your lame comment about RW picking up C-BS Poll talking points from Rush Limbaugh, if you had taken RW’s advice and really read through the thread, you would have seen this from me which was posted hours before you began to entertain us with your conspiracy theories:
*By Buy Danish
February 28, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this
RW,
Rush is starting off program on the BS CBS poll.
My question is, how did you and Andy know that this poll was important if you hadn’t yet gotten your mind-numbed robot instructions?*
In Other words Clark, we conservatives are savvy and anticipate in advance what blockheads like you will try to peddle as informed insight and keen observation.
By N-GA
March 1, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this
My favorite bumper sticker:
“If you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention”
By Wilma Lamb
March 1, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this
I fail to see how the whiney neocons get the media is liberal when the media is at least 89% neocon owned unless it is like Hitler’s propaganda minister Goebbels who operated on the Bush/Karl Rove mantra, repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it. Lord knows they have done that often enough especially the one that Bush is smart and running the country. Everyone knows except when he isn’t shooting people Cheney runs the country and Bush is dumb as a post.Sickofsleaze
By candide
March 1, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this
It’s Lent! Let Americans give up the Republican Party — for good.
By Wilma Lamb
March 1, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this
Osama didn’t endorse Kerry, he endorsed Bush. Bush said so yesterday on national tv unless Karl Rove planted the ObL comment and the neocon ownd press printed it sickofsleaze AND lies
By Ricky
March 1, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this
It continues to amaze me the amount of hate the left has for Bush. I think it literally drives them crazy that he has won two elections. The hate has blinded them so much they have repeatedly missed opportunities to take advantage of the repeated gaffee’s he has made. The continually make the wrong arguement on issues and don’t resonate with the American people. And what are they going to do in ‘08? Follow the same playbook that has cost them the last two elections. Pick a polarizing figure from inside the Beltway that 35% of Americans already say they won’t vote for. Here comes Hillary. The Republican Party realizing Bush was not a true conservative, instead he was a big government Repbulican(or neocon for those that love to use that term), will get back to its roots that have enabled them to control nationally politics since 1994. It should be an interesting campaign. This is where the two parties differ. The Republicans stuck their plan of ideas even when they were getting hammered in national elections and took their lumps all the while convincing more people they had the right idea. Dems just get angry. You have Congressmen writing letters to the President saying “Not no, but hell no.” That does nothing to help them, instead they should be out talking about their ideas and their platforms. But with nationally leaders like Reid, Pelosi, and Dean, what do you expect
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this
Kerry,
I hate to break it to you dear, as I know how much you really wanted to be President, but you lost and W was the “winner”.
Imaginary play is fine for very young children, but at some point you will have to get out of your sandbox and stop pretending that W was the loser. Time to invent a new game!
By SarahConnah
March 1, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this
I hear that the first address Bush Wacker will deliver on his visit to India will include an apology for the treatment they recieved on the reservations.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this
Candide,
Thank goodness for Lent and those crazy Christians, or you’d have nothing to say today!
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this
Brian, I still haven’t been brought to understand how you know it all libs knew that, so like N-GA said, I will continue to ignore your opportunistic use of hindsight. I will list some facts and ask how you knew.
Inspectors were ejected in 1998 after 7 years of deception and trickery by Saddam and further more after a gaggle of dems were pronouncing that Saddam was a grave threat.
Those inspectors were not allowed back in till Bush forced them back in, in 2003. During those five years without inspections Saddam was shooting at our planes that were trying to verify what he should have done under UN resolution 687.
So libs, tell me how you knew? Also tell me how much more stable the Middle-East would have been had we left the Oil for Food Program in charge of enforcing our 1991 cease fire agreement?
Your leaders exclaim how much a threat Saddam was in 1998, the inspectors are kicked out soon after, the inspectors did not return for some five years, but the left happened to know that while he wasn’t being watched he had become peaceful and not a threat? You people really are not being handled you are the world’s truly intelligent homosapiens, destined to rule nations of equality in outcomes with limited opportunity for the huddled masses.
By Ricky
March 1, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this
Wilma Lamb, I would love to hear how the “neo-con’s” own the press. I would also love to hear what you think a neo-con is, because like most people on this board you probably don’t know. You will continue to use the term with no idea what it really is. And please don’t start with the Levi Strauss line.
By Jesus
March 1, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this
Osama didn’t endorse Kerry, he endorsed Bush
Wilma Flintstone,
You may enjoy living in the stone age, along with The Taliban, UBL, and the dinosaurs, but most of us have embraced the modern world.
The first thing you need to do is learn to read and write, or you be doomed to wander for eternity in a barren wasteland of ignorance.
UBL inadvertently helped Bush get elected by endorsing Kerry. Other than you and a few stoneagers, most Americans are repulsed by UBL and react negatively to his advice.
Pebbles and Bam Bam are ashamed of their mommy.
By Brian Curtis
March 1, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this
Ricky: You mean, like “pinko”?
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this
Ricky, my understanding is you served in Iraq, yes/no? Do you have any websites that give realistic and relatively unbiased updates? I have been looking at the Multi National Force-Iraq site since Command Post Iraq and Michael Chertoff left. Granted those to are optimistic sites, but I have the MSM to counter them.
I am becoming concerned that the minority of Iraqis may spit in the face of this opportunity they have and ruin it for everyone.
By N-GA
March 1, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this
Ricky & Danish,
All you have today is the “sore loser” argument? How weak. Bush is in only because the Dems fielded a weak candidate.
Why don’t you debate the issues? We are in an illegal war that most of the international community opposes. The few that participated were arm-twisted into doing so, mostly through economic threats.
The primary beneficiaries of the tax cuts are the wealthy. In the meantime, the USA is moving closer and closer toward financial ruin because of huge deficits and an enormous trade imbalance. What is this administration doing to fix that?
We have an energy problem that has only gotten worse under Bush. When he campaigned, he claimed that he “knew” the people who produced the oil. He sure did. These companies have set new records for profits. Gasoline prices reached the stratosphere because, the energy companies claimed, of limited supply versus heavy demand. Yet I didn’t see a single line of cars at the gas station (like the oil embargo in the 70’s). What lies!
There is corruption throughout the administration - Delay, Abramoff, Cunningham, Reed, Norquist….the list goes on and on.
This administration want to find and punish individuals who “leak” government whistleblowers. What about Cheney? What about Libby? What hypocrites.
Then there’s Katrina, mercury pollution, the sale of public lands, the Schiavo case, OBL, WMD’s, draft deferments,….the list is endless.
If you want to answer these criticisms, don’t refer to earlier administrations. The sins of others in the past doesn’t make these sins go away.
If you continue to support this administration, you are complicit in their criminal behavior!
By Ricky
March 1, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this
Brian Curtis, show me where I have used the term pinko. I haven’t. I don’t buy into the game of name calling and mud slinging. I would rather stick to the issues and ideas.
By Ricky
March 1, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this
Scooter, look at some of the blogs from soldiers serving other there. Read several of them and you can get a good feel for what it is like. From what I saw over there, it is the vocal minority that is causing the problems. Most of the Iraqis I encountered were happy to be free of Saddam and didn’t support the insurgency
By Eric
March 1, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this
What I don’t get is why the moron’s approval rating is still so high at 34percent. Who in their right mind would still support that dunce? Oh yeah, that Andy and the other deep thinkers.
By Ricky
March 1, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this
N-GA, the war is not illegal. You can disagree with it all you want, but it is not illegal. Show me how England, Australia, Japan, etc were arm twisted into helping us in Iraq. Tax cuts are good for the economy. It is a proven fact. We are taking in more income now than ever before. You are going to say then why the deficits? Because we are spending like druken sailors. That is why in my post earlier I said Bush isn’t a true conservative. To be a whistleblower you have to report a crime. The NSA issue isn’t a crime. If it is why aren’t the Dems pushing it harder. All they want to do is pass a law making it explicitly legal. That proves that it is not a crime. Many of your premises are false. I am not a blindly loyal Republican. I am a conservative first and there are many things about this administration that I disagree with. See I can be objective, you can’t. You are a blind partisan. You talk about deficits but not about Dems who bring back huge amounts of pork to their states. Not once during your rant do you mention a Dem. I guess they are pure as the driven snow and are doing all the right things. Please try to be objective, it makes the debate so much better. If you read my post earlier I amde the same point you did about the Dems nominating weak candidates. And they are going to do the same thing in 08 when the nominate Hillary.
By Bee Ess Detector.
March 1, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this
What a relief!!!! Bush’s approval rating is not a horrible 34% like the CBS poll said!!!!
Hip-hip horray!! Its a whopping 38%!!! It just proves Americans are just head over heels in love with this competent leader we have!!!
Happy days are here again.
38% approval, one of the highest approval ratings ever for a president!!!
And it doesn’t end there! The world loves him too!! Just ahead, India is going to have a massive demonstration to show their loving support of our leader.
PS, we also love our VP, his 19% approval rating is actualy 20%.
By Ricky
March 1, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this
Eric if he is such a moron how did he get the most votes in the history of American elections? Oh thats right he got all the dumb people to vote for him. The typical left opinion that you are all smarter than the right
By kimberly
March 1, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this
“Inadvertently” implies that one did not realize what the result of one’s actions would be. So a seven-foot Arab on dialysis is smart enough not only to hide from the world’s most powerful governments for nearly a decade, and maintain his flow of money, and recruit followers at the same time, yet he HAD NO IDEA that his little TV commercial in October 2004 would frighten the Americans into supporting the sitting President during wartime? Yeah-huh…. THAT’s believable. “Inadvertent” HAHAHAHAHAHA!
By buff
March 1, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this
Eric
The CBS poll is a weighted measure
Statistically, it is a joke. they only used a four-point Likert scale, which is only used why you want to create a certain result
It has no more credibility than Dan Rather and the Bush documents before the ‘04 election
Give it a rest, the poll is worthless
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this
“TEN SECOND RESPONSE: The Clinton Administration only talked about regulating mercury emissions; the Bush Administration is acting on it.”
THIRTY SECOND RESPONSE: The EPA has never regulated mercury emissions from power plants. Those who call the Bush Administration’s decision to impose such regulations a “gift to polluters” have a strange idea of what constitutes a gift.
N-GA half of your other independent and rational observations fall under the same heading of stretches in reasoning.
I don’t have time to itemize your misguidedness, but you could start be googling “inventory profits”. It may not fit your contempt though.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this
N-Ga,
First: You’re still on last week’s tedious “bed wetter” schtick.
Second: It was “KERRY” who brought up the loser/winner “argument”. I merely responded to the deluded boy’s statement.
Third: I have no interest in debating fools - it is a complete waste of time and energy. Generally, I find it more productive to respond to the bilious and occasionally humorous posts which litter this blog.
By Ricky
March 1, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this
kimberly, heres another way of looking at it. Osama declared war on us, so he wants to fight and kill as many Americans as possible. After seeing how loss of life affects us(Lebanon, Desert Strom, Somalia, Vietnam) he probably thinks he can break our will by killing as many soldiers as possible. Don’t you think he would want to keep Bush in office so that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq would continue?
By N-GA
March 1, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this
Yes Ricky…the Iraq war is illegal by international law. It is illegal to invade a country without provocation.
Yup, El Salvador, Poland, and all the other “heavy hitter” countries that received US contracts or foreign aid to entice them into a “coalition of the willing”. What a laugh!
And then you try to blame the Dems for pork? You are just too mush a “Bushie”. The Republicans CONTROL BOTH houses of Congress. Still they passed the transportation bill that contains most of the pork. Reagan and Bush #1 both vetoed the transportation bill. But Bush and HIS Congress pushed it through. And this Republican Congress talks about fixing MEdicare and Social Security, but have only themselves to blame for not doing it.
And who outed Valerie Plame? Libby & Cheney. The first has been indicted, and Cheney should be impeached (along with his boss). And Libby doesn’t want to go to trial so his lawyers are doing everything possible to avoid one.
You call me a blind partisan…I call you blindly stupid for ignoring the facts about this administration. YOU ARE COMPLICIT!!!
By Bee Ess Detector.
March 1, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this
Yes give it a rest. The Gallup poll has Bush at 39% approval that just goes to show how popular Bush is. I hate CBS, they are bias.
39%!!!!!!!!! We do love our Bush!!!!
39%!!!!!!!!! WOW
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this
Kimberly,
Ok, you got me. Bush and OBL are in cahoots and have been all along. How could I have been so blind as not to see this before?
Thanks for showing me the way Lil Kim.
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this
Ricky, don’t play with rapid dogs!
By Ricky
March 1, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this
N-GA, well you went back to the old tatic of calling names. I guess that is what you do if you are losing an arguement. Under the treaty of Desert Storm, if Iraq didn’t meet the requirements, then the countries could go back in. That was met when Iraq kept kicking out inspectors. I didn’t just blame Dems for pork. Both parties are to blame, which you fail to acknowledge. If Libby outed Plame why wasn’t he charged with it. A two year investigation failed to reveal any proof. I guess the rule of law doesn’t mean anything to you. I have told you twice now and you fail to understand that I disagree with this admin on many issues. What I take exception with is your lies and stretching of the truth to meet your political aim. Once again proving you are a blind partisan. Where are your solutions?
By David
March 1, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this
Mike Luckovich is the greatest. Thanks, Mike, for saying what needs to be said.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this
the Iraq war is illegal by international law. It is illegal to invade a country without provocation
Ricky,
It is pointless to argue with someone like N-GA who begins and ends with this premise.
By Osama Bin Laden
March 1, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this
Are all my disciples still here- BuyDanish, RW, Ricky, Scooter, Andy? Thank you so much for spreading the fear!
“Of course the people don’t want war. But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”
— Herman Goering
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this
Democrat Party talking points November 1, 2004, from somewhere in Afghanistan or Pakistan
Know thy enemy.
By N-GA
March 1, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this
Ricky…..so you can tell me I’m a blind partisan, but I can’t say you’re blindly stupid. I see…your administration is made up of hypocrites, TOO.
This administration illegally invaded Iraq by claiming Iraq violated UN resolution 14xx. Israel is in violation of dozens of UN resolution, but we don’t invade them. What hypocrites.
I’m an Independent voter, and have been since 1970. I am also a veteran. I criticize those in power….the Dems, as misguided as they are, do not control Congress. You talk like an administration shill. You don’t really want to find fault where it lies, you simply want to debate through deceipt and misdirection. By trying to blame the Dems, you are looking to lessen the blame of the REAL guilty parties.
Libby is under indictment for LYING when he said be didn’t out Plame. You can split hairs, but everyone but you knows the truth!
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
This is one of NGA’s favorite parts:
*Finally, it behoves you to reflect on the last wills and testaments of the thousands who left you on the 11th as they gestured in despair. They are important testaments, which should be studied and researched.
Among the most important of what I read in them was some prose in their gestures before the collapse, where they say: “How mistaken we were to have allowed the White House to implement its aggressive foreign policies against the weak without supervision.”
It is as if they were telling you, the people of America: “Hold to account those who have caused us to be killed, and happy is he who learns from others’ mistakes.”*
Does anyone have a vomitorium handy?
By kimberly
March 1, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this
Ricky, good speculation on Bin Laden’s motives. It’s much easier to kill people whose forces are spread out nice & thin all over the place.
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this
Ricky, don’t argue with the ignorant they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience everytime.
Osama, your welcome hoss. Yuo should have seen how I used fear over the UAE ports deal.
By Ricky
March 1, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this
NGA, you have proven my point. You disregard the areas where I critize the Republicans. I guess that doens’t count as being objective. Are you really comparing Israel and Iraq? Iraq gassed its own people and the Iranians. When did Israel do that? How is it illegal if Iraq did violate the UN resolution? They violated it for over 10 years. Yeah everyone knows the truth about Libby, except there is no evidence that he knowingly leaked her name as an undercover agent. You say you are independent but you wouldn’t know if from reading your posts. But like I said you have proven that you are irrational and will not listening to reasoning.
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this
Have fun Ricky.
By Freedom Fries
March 1, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this
Wear r my republikkkan talking poynts? Hannity is so kewl! White power! Bomb the unclean c**! Kill the demoncrats! How many flags can i put on my Yukon till i fit in with my neybors?
By Brian Curtis
March 1, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this
Ricky, N-GA has already explained that attacking Iraq was illegal; you just choose not to acknowledge it.
By U.S. and international law, there are only three “just war” scenarios: the U.S. satisfied none of them. The fact that the country we attacked had violated UN resolutions makes no difference to the underlying fact that the war was illegal.
In other words, it doesn’t matter what Iraq did or didn’t do—our attacking them was, in fact, illegal. Bush has’t even tried to deny this, instead always changing the subject to what a baaaad man Saddam is. Sure he is; so what? That doesn’t justify OUR (or rather, George’s) breaking the law.
By N-GA
March 1, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this
Ricky…another neo-con tactic…say that I have proven your point when, in fact I have proven MY point and you have proven NOTHING!
You say that I shouldn’t compare Israel to Iraq (when Israel has ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED palestinian territories since 1967). This administration compares the UAE to Great Britain when they say there is no difference with companies from either running U.S. ports. Is that a fair comparison?
You don’t talk about administration corruption….you don’t talk about most of my points….you have no depth.
By Osama Bin Laden
March 1, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this
Amerika, Amerika, über alles, Über alles in der Welt!
By Freedom Fries
March 1, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this
the constitutittition is not abuv Gawd’s laws! Yew Demoncrats bettur pray hard or yew’ll be reeding the Korrran befor long! Thank Gawd and thank GW!
By Ricky
March 1, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this
N-GA, most professional polticians are corrupt. No doubt about it. Israel has been fighting for its existence since its inception as a state. And now they are turning the lands back over to the Palenstinians who continue to kill women and children. The admin is saying that the UAE company is formerly a British company. Personally I don’t like the idea of this company because they are Arab and we are fighting Arab extremists right now. Doesn’t seem like a good idea to me.
Brian Curtis, so violating the terms of a peace treaty is not ground for war? Since when. YOu are in the minority on this one
By Ricky
March 1, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this
N-GA, by the way I am not a neo-con. Thanks for assuming though.
By finch
March 1, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this
“Under the treaty of Desert Storm, if Iraq didn’t meet the requirements, then the countries could go back in.”
False. The agreement ending the Gulf War was between Iraq and the United Nations, not between Iraq and the US.
Only the UN could legally authorize military action if it determined treaty violations warranted it.
The UN did not authorize the US invasion. Therefore, the invasion was illegal.
By kimberly
March 1, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this
How have the deaths of tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of Iraqis made us safer from Bin Laden? How have the deaths of three thousand American soldiers, and the injury & debilitation of another ten thousand, made us safer? Now I learn that apparently, we don’t even have the capacity to manage our OWN ports in a time when millions of foreign citizens hate us and pray for our destruction.
Ricky… Dude… you’re a thoughtful young man. At what point WOULD you consider it appropriate to question our leaders on their actions and motivations?
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this
Ricky,
According to NG-A, Iraq is the only country that is exempt from this “International Law” tht he holds so dear. Brian Curtis agrees. Bin Laden agrees. What more do we need to know?
Unless they take their meds it is impossible to have a rational discussion with them because they are hallucinating.
By N-GA
March 1, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this
Ricky,
Israel is only giving back some territory under international pressure. Israel’s government has repeatedly stated that they are not returning all the illegal settlements (more than 200 of them).
While I strongly oppose any acts of terrorism, I do UNDERSTAND why the Palestinians have resorted to these horrible acts. For more than 30 years they have tried to get the international community to pressure Israel into returning their land. To no avail! They commit terrorist acts out of desperation. If the situation were reversed, and Americans were in the position of displaced Palestinians, I suspect they would react in much the same way.
Israel has been hoping that eventually everyone would forget how they got the land. If the USA (ANY prior administration from Nixon through Bush) had used any and all diplomatic leverage to get Israel out of the occupied territories, there would have been no Intifada! This is not a Republican issue or a Democratic issue. And it certainly contributed to how we are viewed by many in the Muslim world…as hypocrites!
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this
finch,
Did Iraq comply with the terms of the “U.N” treaty? Why do you think that the U.N. hesitated at the very last moment? Could it have had anything to do with the bribes that they were getting from Saddam Hussein?
It seems to me that over and above our national sovereignty, when the “International body” is being bribed by the very country whose fate rests in their hands, that the previous agreement becomes moot, and we are free to act, unilaterally if necessary, with no further feints at “diplomacy”.
To rely entirely on the U.N. is folly.
By candide
March 1, 2006 01:10 PM | Link to this
Ricky: the so=called Left hates Bush because, 1. he has violated the Constitution, 2. he has lied to the American people, 3. he started an unnecessary war and is responsible for the blood needlessly shed, 4. he has ruined the stature and reputation of our nation abroad, 5. he has used Nazi-like tactics against anyone disagreeing with him, 6. he has given aid and comfort to the Christian fascists who want to outlaw abortion and make everyone toe their ignorant, bigotted line, 7. he is a stupid man and when stupidity and arrogance are combined you have a hateful mixture.
Thus, there is every reason to hate Bush and to be ashamed of the American electorate for its fecklessness and ignorance.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this
N-GA,
Did you file a complaint with the U.N. about some of today’s posts - Is that why it closed down for awhile? Maybe they needed to do some evidence gathering to see if we were breaking international law.
Referring to Bin Laden’s speech as “Democratic Party talking points” just may have crossed the line.
Oh Oh. I see some people with blue helmets coming to my door.
Later…
By Andy
March 1, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this
March 1, 2006 — THE reporting out of Baghdad continues to be hysterical and dishonest.
By RALPH PETERS - In Iraq’
Yesterday, I crisscrossed Baghdad, visiting communities on both banks of the Tigris and logging at least 25 miles on the streets. With the weekend curfew lifted, I saw traffic jams, booming business — and everyday life in abundance.
Yes, there were bombings yesterday. The terrorists won’t give up on their dream of sectional strife, and know they can count on allies in the media as long as they keep the images of carnage coming. They’ll keep on bombing.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this
Candide,
Let me pass on a little reminder that I picked up from Libertarian talk radio today : “NAZI” stands for “National Socialist Party”, so you are actually saying that Bush is on your team everytime you utilize that hackneyed term.
By Brian Curtis
March 1, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this
BD, the Nazi party was no more socialist than the “Clean Air Initiative” is about clean air.
Also, you’ve (unsurprisingly) missed the point about the Iraq war again. Iraq’s violating the resolution has no bearing on whether the war itself was illegal. And it was, according to U.S. law itself. OUR laws say so.
By Midori
March 1, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this
who’s team is this guy on?
By Andy
March 1, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this
The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public law 107-243, 116 Stat. 1497-1502) was a law passed by the United States Congress authorizing what was soon to become the Iraq War. The authorization was sought by President George W. Bush. It passed the House on October 10 by a vote of 296-133, and by the Senate on October 11 by a vote of 77-23, obviously receiving a limited amount of support from Democrats, and must be considered an overall unsupportive vote when compared to the “war vote” for the Second World War and other more poplularly supported conflicts. It was signed into law by President Bush on October 16, 2002.
If a pinko’s mouth is open, a lie is being turned loose into the world.
By Ben
March 1, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this
Conservatives/Neo-cons/Republicans:
STOP getting so angry at the liberals. Why are you so angry? You’re all in power. The liberals have nothing to offer except pot-shots at the President.
They stood on the same platform as Bush when the war started. (WMD’s, Sadaam is a threat, etc.). Then they backpedalled unsuccessfully and claimed Bush “tricked” them. But at the same time they claim to be intellectually superior. “We’re smarter than Bush, but he tricked us.” That’s odd. How can you be fooled by someone more foolish than yourself? And just how did he manage to “fool” British intelligence, German intelligence, Russian intelligence, Italian intelligence, and French intelligence?
“IMPEACH BUSH!” Why? Because he took the same position the liberals/Dems did? OK, then impeach them all.
“This is an illegal war!” But Congress voted for it
“It doesn’t matter, Iraq didn’t provoke us, so it’s still illegal!” Germany didn’t attack us. Neither did Russia. Neither did Korea. Neither did the Vietnamese. Neither did Afghanistan. I seem to recall the US bringing war to their lands.
The liberals still don’t understand that Bin Laden helped Bush win the election because no one with an IQ greater than his/her shoe size would have voted for John Kerry with the same knowledge that Bin Laden still had not been captured.
“But Bush can’t find Bin Laden!” Correct. We don’t know where he is. But we sure know where he is NOT; and that is roaming in the middle of the dessert, posing for satellite pictures and smiling alongside his camel, with millions of dollars and thousands of terrorists at his disposal as he was during the Clinton era.
I want Bush out of office just as much as the next guy, but for legitimate reasons. I can’t stand his spending habits, I honestly wish he raised taxes to fund the war (because I consider myself patriotic and I would gladly see a tax increase to help fund the war). And YES, I have donated much of my own money to the war effort, so stop drooling, libs. Bush has not done enough to secure our borders. Bush has been TOO SOFT on terrorists and I want the troops to come home. If Iraq plunges into civil war, so be it. They were all in hell under the rule of Saddam, they are all in hell now. We gave them the freedom they deserved, and they can’t handle it. Call me selfish but at this point the US needs to focus more on the US. I do not think the UAE, with their track record of funding/supporting terrorism and their refusal to acknowledge Israel has yet earned the right to manage security of our ports. Oh, and Halliburton turned down a donation request from the Fallen Heroes fund. But make no mistake about it, Bush sure as hell was a better candidate than Kerry. Anyone who disagrees is…well…a naive liberal with a pre-9/11 mentality. End of story.
SO, CONSERVATIVE RIGHT WING NUTS, CHILL!!! In order for these drooling, braindead, spineless, anti-American liberals to be back in power, they need:
Until you right-wingers lose your power or even have a shot at losing your power, I’d say you have bigger things to worry about than a spineless hack like Mike Luckovich spewing unfounded liberal propoganda across the toilet paper Al-Jazeera Constitution.
By Euphoria
March 1, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this
gadem that was funny!!
By getalife
March 1, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this
I think to avoid another Iraq mistake, there should be be at least 90% approval for going to war.
For those who say the Dems have no ideas here are some: first clean up Dubya’s mess then make college education as universal for the 21st century as a high school education was in the 20th.
Second, get a summit on the budget to deal with the $3 trillion of debt that’s been added up in five years and structural deficits of $400 billion a year.
Third, an energy policy that says in 10 years, we cut our dependence on foreign oil in half and make this a hybrid economy.
Fourth, create an institute on science and technology that builds for America like, the National Institutes has done for health care, we maintain our edge.
And fifth, have a universal health-care system over the next 10 years where if you work, you have health care
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this
getalife, that is a plan. Se if you can get it in the hands of Howard Dean he needs you.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this
Ben: The majority of the things you do not like about George Bush were a result of him compromising with liberals (No Child Left Behind) and/ or him showering hysterical liberals with money to shut them up (Katrina, Bird Flu.) Why would I want to start compromising with them? You can say that I learned from Bush’s mistakes.
Bush has reduced Al Qaeda from a force that knocked over two very large buildings, down to a bunch of cave dwellers who’s only hope of winning is by having the hysterics in America surrender to them. In case you didn’t notice, these traitors have already abandoned one ally, Vietnam, turning them over to enslavement and mass murder. They got away with this abomination because Conservatives did not challenge their sissy outbursts and stupid weakling eruptions.
Again, we have learned from past mistakes. They can go to h-ell if they think we are surrendering to these terrorists. It’s that simple.
By getalife
March 1, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this
Scooter,
Dean and Reid will follow in the clean up Dubya’s mess category, along with real corruption reform.
By AntiRadical
March 1, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this
“People don’t need to worry about security. This deal wouldn’t go forward if we were concerned about the security for the United States of America.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 23, 2006
Most people do indeed think that “this deal wouldn’t go forward if we were concerned about the security for the United States of America”. I happen to think the ports deal is a good one but I have never seen another public figure who suffered from such an extreme case of “foot in mouth” disease.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this
getalife: Dude, Reid took more money from the Indian Tribes than all of the other Republicans or democrats combined. I’m sure he’ll implement some real “sweeping” reforms, shees.
By getalife
March 1, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this
Andy,
You can say that I learned from Bush’s mistakes.
Dubya only admitted to the Katrina fiasco and you are admitting to more mistakes by your king.
Tighten up or I will start thinking you are a “pinko.”
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this
Iraq’s violating the resolution has no bearing on whether the war itself was illegal. And it was, according to U.S. law itself. OUR laws say so.
Brian Curtis,
Andy did a nice job of answering this fantasy while I was out. Now if you have any American laws that support your position, please bring ‘em on.
getalife,
I hope you don’t have too much invested in your ideas for a new utopia as you are bound to be sorely disappointed.
I know that they have come out with some sort of new study that says that optimists (conservatives) live longer than pessimists (liberals), but I don’t know if it said what happens when all hope dies.
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this
Speaking of New Orleans and public officials.
By getalife
March 1, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this
Let me reword for you Andy,
The pinkos Reid and Dean should resign their pinko leadership positions due to the lack of pinko abilities to capitalize on the wingnuts mistakes.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this
AntiR: Most normal people don’t stalk George Bush’s every sentence and can understand what he is saying with relative ease, while on the other hand, the real foot in the mouth diseases go untreated:
Clinton’s ‘plantation’ remark draws fire
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton apologized for joking that Mahatma Gandhi used to run a gas station in St. Louis, saying it was “a lame attempt at humor.”
HBO’s Gumbel: Lack of Blacks Makes Olympics ‘Look Like a GOP Convention’
John Kerry, great white deer hunter: “I go out with my trusty 12-gauge double-barrel, crawl around on my stomach.
You keep on stalking, though.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this
getalife: No, no, no, we need to keep those fine gentlemen in power, they are doing us, I mean, you guys so much good.
By Ben
March 1, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this
“Ben: The majority of the things you do not like about George Bush were a result of him compromising with liberals (No Child Left Behind) and/ or him showering hysterical liberals with money to shut them up (Katrina, Bird Flu.)”
Andy, I agree. That is another reason I disagree with Bush on many fronts. He is compromising with liberals who are just undermining his general efforts. I wish he’d sack up and tell them to go to hell, and just do what he claims is right.
The problem with that, though is: he doesn’t want to lose voters’ support. A President’s main goal during his first term is to seal a second term. One of his main goals during his second term is to seal the next term for his party when he leaves. Unfortunately they all seem to think they need to coddle to the other side just enough to keep the votes.
But I think the best way to do it is to just stick to your guns, be honest, and have conviction. But politicians don’t do that enough; any of them.
I don’t feel Bush has been very honest with this nation or with the world. But that’s because he’s a politician. And I think he has more honesty in one sperm cell than Clinton did in Monica Lewinsky’s entire digestive system. I think he has more honesty in one drop of sweat than Kerry has in an entire face-full of botox.
Another bunch of questions for you liberals:
If Bush & Co. are so dumb and ignorant, how can they engineer so many lies and shady deals and not come close to being impeached? How come not one accusation thrown their way has been PROVEN?
Why haven’t Cheney or Rove been found guilty in a court of law for the “leak” case?
Why hasn’t DeLay been found guilty in a court of law and thrown in jail?
Why haven’t the FBI and CIA operatives been found guilty and thrown in jail for “illegal wiretapping”? And who has been violated by this illegal act? Where are the plaintiffs? Would you, the liberal left, support freeing terrorists if the court found the evidence was collected through “illegal” wiretapping?
The US isn’t “illegally evesdropping” on US citizens as much as it is LEGALLY EVESDROPPING on TERRORISTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES calling the US or receiving calls from the US. “Whoops! We can’t go capture this terrorist, because the liberals say in listening to his conversation we had to listen to a US Citizen’s voice without a warrant!” I guess that means cops can’t raid a crack-house if they believe innocent civilians may be inside, also, doesn’t it?
By getalife
March 1, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
You would have to ask the Iraqis about what happens when all hope dies.
I guess they would say, civil war?
By Freedom Fries
March 1, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this
Andy, BuyDanish, and all the Thought Police, they just come here to vent.
They must get paid by Bush to squash out dissent.
I try to sleep, they’re wide awake, they won’t leave me alone. They don’t get paid to take vacations, or let me alone. They spy on me, I try to hide, they won’t let me alone. They persecute me, they’re the judge and jury all in one.
Get a life.
By getalife
March 1, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this
RW,
Check out those comments on my link.
By Scott McClellan
March 1, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this
To every truth, Turn, Turn, Turn There is a spin, Turn, Turn, Turn, And a time to broadcast lies for any reason.
By AntiRadical
March 1, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the links , Andy. Yesterday’s news but worthy of attention. No one needs to stalk the President, this stuff just continues to flow out unabated; there has hardly been a day without a new “Bushism” in his entire Presidency. Nobody really cares that much about Clinton/Kerry/etc because they aren’t running the country and are thereby “out of the cross-hairs” of intense public scrutiny. I read between the lines myself with the President, but you have to admit he does make a HUGE target of himself. It would be nice if he didn’t do that.
By Pat Robertson
March 1, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this
C’mon people now, hate with your brother, ev’rybody kill a Democrat, and fuss with one another right now.
By getalife
March 1, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this
Looks like Ben answered Mike’s question : “HOW CAN ANY INTELLIGENT PERSON STILL SUPPORT THIS DOOFUS?”
By Buy French
March 1, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this
Republicans, the only white meat.
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Where is this link you speak of?
By Midori
March 1, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this
A Day in the Life on Mike Luckovich’s blog:
Washington, D.C. President Bush announced today his latest idea formulated to fight in the War on Terror, as well as addressing concerns of extremely low supplies of bullets.
The president’s plan entails rounding up each and every puppy in the United States. He would then have them decapitated and the heads would be shipped to “coalition” forces to be used as rocks.
Conservatives hailed the president’s ingenuity, noting that the troops would no longer need weapons in order to launch the puppy head/rocks - thus making the forces more mobile and combat ready, as the troops would no longer have to carry bulky rifles.
To jump start this program, the President will appear at a ceremony tomorrow in the Rose Garden, flanked by his cabinet. The show and tell media event will highlight each cabinet member, who will personally bite the heads off of several puppies, and tossing them into a basket.
Asked if he, himself would participate in the media event, the president responded: “I’m a leader. I lead. That’s what leaders do.”
ANDY: Commie Pinko Puppies!! Kill Them!!! Kill Them All!!!!
RW: Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton would NEVER have thought of such an ingenious plan!!!! Kudos to the President!!!!
RICKY: The left just hates Bush. The left just hates Bush. The left just hates Bush. The left just hates Bush. .The left just hates Bush. The left just hates Bush. The left just hates Bush. The left just hates Bush. The left just hates Bush. The left just hates Bush. The left just hates Bush. The left just hates Bush.
SCOOTER: SNAP. CRACKLE. POP.
DUSTY: What an effective leader!!!! All Hail George W. Bush!!!!!!
Buy Danish: It’s certainly obvious that none of the “intellectuals” on the left would have thought of such an ingenious plan!!!!! Go Bush!!!!!!
By Freedom Fries
March 1, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this
You might be a Dubya Supporter if… …you think that God created the so much beauty on Earth for more space for parking lots, and to give Himself more places to hide oil. …you know that we have to shut down the Iraqi press, enforce a curfew in Bahgdad, have tribunals for Iraqi prisoners, and kill all Iraqi insurgants on sight in order to bring freedom to Iraq. …you reported your Granny to the FBI for buying her medication in Canada. …you resent any form of government intrusion into your life, but think that the Patriot Act is weak and needs its enforcement provisions strengthened. …you get so annoyed at all those poor people, and can’t understand why they spend so much time and effort trying to stay poor when they could spend that time being productive members of society.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
Ben: I wish he’d sack up and tell them to go to hell, and just do what he claims is right. Amen, Bro, we are on the same page. Keep in mind the 2000 election with Gore winning the popular vote but losing the electoral college, Bush rightfully tried the concept of “governing from the middle” as a nod to how America voted. The diseased liberals took advantage of this, passed a bunch of faulty legislation (McCain-Feingold) and obstructed the worthwhile stuff (tax cuts.)
He should have gotten adversarial at the outset of his second term but I believe Bush is trying to be the adult, the liberals are the ones acting like children (challenging the election results, etc, etc, etc.)
I agree he needs to slam the door on the pinkos. They have proven time and time again that they do not care to participate in bettering the people’s business, all they care about is stupid partisan politics.
By Monica's Man
March 1, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
F**K France
By Curly
March 1, 2006 03:06 PM | Link to this
Tax Cuts - For Dummies A Simple Lesson In Economics
Let’s put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand, then the lefties can ignor the truth. Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this: The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay $1. The sixth would pay $3. The seventh $7. The eighth $12. The ninth $18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59. So, that’s what they decided to do. The ten men eat dinner in the restaurant every day and seem quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. “Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20.” So, now dinner for the ten only cost $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So, the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what about the other six, the paying customers? How could they divvy up the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his ‘fair share’?
The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being ‘PAID’ to eat their meal. So, the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so: The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings). The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings). The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings). The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings). The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings). The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. “I only got a dollar out of the $20,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man “but he got $10!” “Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than me!” “That’s true!!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!” “Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison. “We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!”
So, the nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table anymore. There are lots of good restaurants in Europe and the Caribbean.
Originally written by: David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D Distinguished Professor of Economics University of Georgia Now the next time you claim that the tax cuts are for and only helping the rich, everyone will know that your IQ is a single digit number.
By Buy French
March 1, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this
Repugnikkkans- greedy, white trash that proclaim to be Christian in direct opposition to the teachings of Jesus, who was a socialist.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this
Midori: (-;
By finch
March 1, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this
It doesn’t matter how many official sounding resolutions were passed by Congress and signed by President Bush authorizing the use of force against Iraq.
The treaty ending the 1991 Gulf War was between the United Nations and Iraq. The UN did not endorse military action by the US to enforce this treaty.
Operation Enduring Freedom (against Afghanistan) had the backing of the UN, which the US sought. Operation Iraqi Freedom did not.
“On September 16, 2004 Kofi Annan, the Secretary General of the United Nations, speaking on the invasion said ‘I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN charter from our point of view, from the charter point of view, it was illegal.’”
The argument that the US didn’t need UN support for the Iraq invasion is inconsistent and unsupportable. In addition to the Afghanistan invasion, the US sought, and received, UN support for Operation Desert Storm against Iraq in 1991.
Either the US respects the UN’s version of international law, or it doesn’t.
Cherry picking is not allowed.
If a wingnut’s mouth is open, a lie is being turned loose on the world.
By Freedom Fries
March 1, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this
i need more gas for my SUV so I can fly fifty flags, cause sometimes peeple mite think i’m a pinko lib’ral demoncrat. i didn’t serve cause of my hangnail but i suppoort sending other people to die for my SUV cus i’m an Amurrican.
By getalife
March 1, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this
Of course, Andy answers Mike’s question everyday.
By Midori
March 1, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this
Curly,
How are Moe and Larry doing?
Sucks what happened to Shemp, huh?
By Morgan
March 1, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this
Ben - I consoled myself after the 2004 election; knowing that Kerry/Edwards would not be blamed for ruining Duh-bya’s QUAGMIRE. This is Republican legacy from start to finish. (Make that for generations to come … as we work to pay off the debt, renew international relations and try to sustain life on this limited resource we call Earth.)
By Andy
March 1, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this
Anybody else in here like to second that motion that United Nations should have authority over the national security of the United States? You know, tag yourself as a traitor?
By Brian Curtis
March 1, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish: And I believe Finch has answered Andy’s standard cover-up of claiming that an act of Congress can somehow trump the Constitution.
Would you care to make any points on your own? Because relying on a lunatic like Andy to think for you is bound to be embarrassing.
By BigDaddy
March 1, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this
finch, was that the same Kofi whose son was in bed with Saddam via Oil-for-Food? Or was that a different Kofi?
By Monica's Man
March 1, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this
The French Stink
By Andy
March 1, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this
45 Militants Killed in Pakistan Wednesday, March 01, 2006
MIRAN SHAH, Pakistan — Pakistani security forces backed by helicopter gunships struck a militant hide-out Wednesday in a tribal region near the Afghan border, killing more than 45 fighters including a Chechen commander linked to Al Qaeda, officials said.
It’s civil war in Pakistan! Who started this quagmire?
By Midori
March 1, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this
Monica’s Man has been sniffing his own crotch again, and trying, yet again, to blame the French.
By BigDaddy
March 1, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this
Buy French - felicitations! Vous etes un vrai putain connard!
By BigDaddy
March 1, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this
What is going on here? What is up with this delay? BigDaddy demands to be heard immediately!
By Andy
March 1, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this
I do need to apologize for an earlier mistake that I made:
If a pinko has his mouth open, a lie is being released into the world
Again, apologies, my statement should have been: These pinkos are uneducated, have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about and are just slam ignorant.
Proof of this:
By Brian Curtis March 1, 2006 03:18 PM
By finch March 1, 2006 03:08 PM
Buy Danish: And I believe Finch has answered Andy’s standard cover-up of claiming that an act of Congress can somehow trump the Constitution.
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this
Brian Curtis,
Would you like to tell us where in the Constitution it says that Congress can’t authorize the use of force?
By Monica's Man
March 1, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this
Midori, I would rather sniff my own than your’s….I’m sure I would have to knock the crust off of yours.
By Midori
March 1, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this
Monica’s Man,
ah, but at least I don’t try to blame the French for my crust, do I?
Have you tried French crust?
Yum!!!!!
Your logic stinks just as much as your crotch does.
By Monica's Man
March 1, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this
Midori has a glazed brillo pad in her pants.
By BigDaddy
March 1, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this
Midori and Monica’s Man - please don’t stop. This is the greatest crotch fight I’ve ever seen. Outside of Tijuana…
By Midori
March 1, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this
yes, and brillo pads can be used to clean things.
what do you clean your crab-infested region with? Old Bay seasoning?
By Monica's Man
March 1, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
I’m sure Midori’s has long since grown shut.
By Jason
March 1, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
i dont get it
By Midori
March 1, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this
ROFL, Big Daddy
I don’t have a problem hanging in there :)
By Midori
March 1, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this
speaking of shut - can you close your fly?
keep your maggots to yourself.
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!
By BigDaddy
March 1, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this
Jason, what exactly is confusing you? The cartoon or the crotch fight?
Midori, you go girl!
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Ah yes, but the Iraqis have been given an opportunity for hope, and if they squander that opportunity with civil war, at least they have an idea of what hope feels like.
Your socialist-economic ideas are completely hopeless, so your only real chance for hope is if the Iraqis lose theirs.
I prefer my prospects over yours.
By Dusty
March 1, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this
To paraphrase Lady “Midori” McBeth—-All the perfumes of Arabia could not sweeten this mouth of mine.”
Other than that—GO, BUSH, GO!!!
By Larry
March 1, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this
Hi Curly,
Here’s an old one- Three men come to a hotel. They are told that the rooms are $30 but that only one room is available. Each man gives the clerk a $10 bill and they go to the room. The manager decides to give the men a discount of $5 and sends the bellhop up to give the men the refund. On the way up, the bellhop decides that $5 can’t be split evenly so he puts $2 in his pocket and gives each man back a $1 bill.
So each man originally paid $10 and got back $1 so each spent $9. Three times $9 is $27 plus the $2 in the bellboy’s pocket makes $29. What happened to the other dollar from the original $30?
By finch
March 1, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
If the United Nations is so irrelevant to US policy, then why did the US seek it’s backing for the 1991 Gulf War (which it got), the 2003 Afghan invasion (which it got), and the 2003 Iraq invasion (which it did NOT)?
Cherry-picking like this is logically indefensible.
Iraq was not a haven for Al Qaeda, had nothing to do with 9/11, and didn’t have any WMDs. Now, how was it a threat to US security again?
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
Either the US respects the UN’s version of international law, or it doesn’t
finch,
Well, I guess it doesn’t so there you have it.
Brian Curtis,
Sure Brian. Read the Constitution and then get back to me.
By Midori
March 1, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this
By Dusty March 1, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this
To paraphrase Lady “Midori� McBeth—-All the perfumes of Arabia could not sweeten this mouth of mine.�
Other than that—GO, BUSH, GO!!!
At least I’m honest about it.
Which is more than can be said about you.
I’ll bet you want him to go in YOUR mouth, eh?
By RE
March 1, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this
Wow, the ladies are gettin nasty up in here
By Daniel
March 1, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
finch, The Finchster! Once again deftly cuts to the heart of the matter! Touche’
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
finch,
Just because working with the U.N. was our POLICY does not make it the LAW.
We tried our best, but the coalition of the bribed were too greedy to get on board, so we went on ahead without their approval.
By Dusty
March 1, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this
Sorry, Midori, I only “mouth” politics, not politicians. Which reminds me:
What an effective leader! All hail George W. Bush!
Thanks for the reminder. Glad you can help out.
By Biscuits and Gravy
March 1, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
by Buy Danish- So America was exactly the same as Saddam Hussein then? Neither of us had any respect for International Law! I thought that the excuse we used for invasion was that he was in violation of UN regs regarding WMDs. There are no kettles, the pots are calling each other black!
By Objective Observer
March 1, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
The source of the anger! No “dys” just dat
By RE
March 1, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
We tried our best, but the coalition of the bribed were too greedy to get on board, so we went on ahead without their approval.
We tried to work within the guidelines of FISA, but could not in order to perform the wiretapping we wanted.
Sounds familiar, see, I would have obeyed the law…but it was not convienent to do so, so I went ahead anyway.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this
finch, Brian Curtis, getalife, and like-minded friends,
It is always interesting to go back in time and review historical events. In this case we can look at the fact that even Canada did not rely on U.N. approval for the Iraq War.
This story is from The World Socialists Website, so you can consider it golden
Be sure to make note of the part where we went into Yugoslavia in 1999 without U.N. approval, which by your terms seems to make Bill Clinton a “war criminal”.
Examples like this abound…
By Andy
March 1, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this
Since this is poll week and in honor of C B.S., CBS News Demonstrates How to Properly Skew a Poll I would like to conduct my own little poll:
A- Is finch ignorant of United States Constitutional Law?
B- Is finch counting on all of the other pinkos in here to be ignorant of United States Constitutional Law?
Since either answer works for me, I don’t have to ask more democrats that question than Republicans so that I get the “right” response.
By Biscuits and Gravy
March 1, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this
Barf! Another “Clinton did it, too, so it’s alright.” How original! Is there ever anything that George Bush does that “Clinton didn’t do first”? Maybe Clinton had plastic surgery, fooled us all, amd got a third term as George W. Bush! Sounds like it to hear the wingnuts talk.
By getalife
March 1, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this
I think Dubya is trying to beat Clinton’s record of years served before being impeached.
They keep in touch
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this
“On February 17, 1998, Clinton gave a speech signaling the danger of rogue nations providing weapons of mass destruction to terrorist organizations with global reach. Clinton specifically pointed to Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. [11] In August 1998 UN weapons inspectors left Iraq, leading to Operation Desert Fox in December.”
“Some critics argue that the American attacks in Kosovo, Somalia, Bosnia, Sudan, and Afghanistan violated international law.”
RE, can I get one of those points for Clinton did it too?
By Ben
March 1, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this
Finch,
[Your point is taken regarding your position that the US illegally went to war with regard to UN policy] (http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/entries/2006/02/28/strong_supporte.html#comment-320906)
However your argument is more wobbly than Michael J. Fox’s head in a helicopter.
Kofi Annan stated his interpretation of the UN policy renders the US invasion of Iraq to be illegal. So that was his interpretation. OK, I’ll grant him his interpretation. However, the UN failed to enforce 16 resolutions (including 1441). So the US took it upon itself to enforce regulations which the UN did not unanimously agree to enforce. If any body acted illegally, it was the UN, for failing to enforce its own doctrine.
If the US committed such a blatant act of illegal warfare then why hasn’t the UN even BEGUN to bring the US up on charges? I guess it won’t be in the near future since the UN wasn’t even prepared to bring Saddam Hussein up on charges.
So not only are you aligning yourself with the UN (which, by the way is more corrupt than the US has EVER BEEN) instead of the United States, but you are also going beyond Annan’s position and charging the US (as well as the UK, Australia, Spain, and Italy among others) with a MAJOR CRIMINAL OFFENSE.
I’m not going to call you a traitor, or Pinko, or anti-American. Because I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just don’t understand your own arguments. But let me ask you this: If Canada invaded the United States with tanks, aircraft, and infantry; would you claim the President is conducting an illegal war just because the UN doesn’t agree to join us in the fight? Your answer to that question will be, “yes” if you truly believe in your position that the US is fighting an illegal war simply because of Kofi Annan’s interpretation of UN policy.
And the people on this thread that are giving you kudos are beyond help because they can’t even come up with their own arguments. I feel truly sorry for them and their frustration with the world because they are so incapable of understanding these simple concepts. At least you came up with a position, stated it, and supported it with facts.
By N-GA
March 1, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this
Saw this while surfing:
The United States of America has been raped, looted, and her heart has been ripped from her body. The bloody carcass is now being dragged behind a pickup truck somewhere on a ranch in Crawford Tx…
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this
“Like Gulf War II, the 78-day NATO air campaign in Kosovo was waged without the explicit authorization of the United Nations. (Of the two, the Iraq war had much more of a U.N. mandate, through Resolution 1441, which gave Iraq a “final opportunity” — one it did not take — to comply fully with all previous Security Council resolutions or else face “serious consequences.”) Like Iraq, Yugoslavia was a sovereign country that was bombed into submission for essentially internal infractions.”
Two points for me!
By RE
March 1, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this
BD, do you even take time to read the links you post?
Canada did not participate in the Iraq war, they are not part of the “coalition of the willing”
for you
By John McL
March 1, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
Wow did anyone see the latest CBS poll? Bush’s approval rating is now at a dismal 34%.
Not good.
By bh
March 1, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this
I love this cartoon! It makes me physically ill to see those stupid “W the President” stickers. What idiot would still display one?
By Andy
March 1, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this
Democrats Vow Not to Give Up Hopelessness
WASHINGTON, DC—In a press conference on the steps of the Capitol Monday, Congressional Democrats announced that, despite the scandals plaguing the Republican Party and widespread calls for change in Washington, their party will remain true to its hopeless direction.
“We are entirely capable of bungling this opportunity to regain control of the House and Senate and the trust of the American people,” Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said to scattered applause. “It will take some doing, but we’re in this for the long and pointless haul.”
By Daniel
March 1, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this
Brent Scowcroft was the National Security Advisor to Pres George H.W. Bush. This is what he had to say about the Iraq invasion: “At a minimum we’d be an occupier in a hostile land. Our forces would be sniped at by guerrillas and, oncwe we were there, how would we get out?” Scowcroft knew the differennce between Iraq and Kosovo. Cooler heads prevailed then; cooler heads will prevail down the road. Sadly, “our forces are being sniped at” in the meantime.
By Midori
March 1, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this
Andy,
you need to let that “skewering polls” argument take a rest.
Bush’s numbers suck, anyway you look at it.
They just plain suck.
Are all of these polls “skewered”?
By Objective Observer
March 1, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this
Scooter:
Enlightening link on the action taken in Kosovo! Next trip to the book store………
By Andy
March 1, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this
Two former aides to Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) have alleged that he repeatedly violated House ethics rules.
Deanna Maher, a former deputy chief of staff in Conyers’s Detroit office, and Sydney Rooks, a former legal counsel in the district office, provided evidence for the allegations by sharing numerous letters, memorandums and copies of e-mails, handwritten notes and expense reports with The Hill.
In letters sent separately by each woman to the House ethics committee, the FBI and the U.S. attorney’s office, they allege that Conyers demanded that aides work on several local and state campaigns and forced them to baby-sit and chauffeur his children. They also charge that some aides illegally used Conyers’s congressional offices to enrich themselves.
Tsk, Tsk, Tsk.
By Daniel
March 1, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this
Since you can’t change the country, change the subject.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this
Hey, John McL: As a matter of fact, we did see that C B.S. poll:
CBS News Demonstrates How to Properly Skew a Poll
I figure if you factor in the obvious partisan slanting by all of the pinko media, and given that they are at 42% on average with their polls anyway, give Bush 7% to make up for the bias, it puts him at about 49% approval. Not bad, considering the sorry news lately.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this
RE,
this is where you sent me
Try opening it.
By RE
March 1, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this
Even with Andy logic Bush cannot crack 50% approval ratings. Now that is sad
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this
CBS* fakes more than TANG memos and polls, tell me again that they are a credible news organization.
*Spelled like this so as not to offend the tender sensibilities of “clark”
By RE
March 1, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this
Nice site Midori, a comparison of Bush, Clinton and Nixon
By Andy
March 1, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this
RE: Shows you what an honest person I am, after all I could have pulled a C B.S. and said that Bush was at 85% approval.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this
Daniel,
If all we did was argue the pros and cons of the Iraq War, and whether is or is not a “legal war”, or waited for you to post something interesting, things would be very dull indeed.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this
RE,
I’m still waiting for that link from you, but meanwhile, if you read my thread, I never said that Canada was part of the coalition, only that they did not think that it was “illegal” to act without U.N. support.
By Daniel
March 1, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this
Scowcroft quote hit home! Huh?
By RE
March 1, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this
Link worked just fine for me BD. Maybe its a problem with your “internets”
By JC
March 1, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish, RW, and Andy, I have a feeling you each fit at least 13 of these-
Here’s a profile of the few Bush supporters left in this country:
Drive pick up trucks;
Homophobic (but latently homosexual);
Think FOX News qualifies as journalism, as opposed to what it actually is- Jerry Springer’s CNN for former special ed students;
Barely high school educated (or have a degree in business, which is about the same thing);
Like to kill things (but are too scared to be around anything that shoots back);
White, white, and white (and think their ancestors were the original inhabitants of America);
Pretend to want an education for their kids but deny all evidence in science and history;
Think going to church makes them good people (when everything else they do says they’re lowlifes);
Think getting paid a lot of money makes someone smart;
Covertly racist and overtly sexist;
“Intelligent” and “ethical” enough to think that not using cells that are going to be thrown away is more important than curing heart disease and paralysis;
Will tell you about the Constitution and Declaration of Independence but have never read either one;
Like Toby Keith.
Oh, and now they comprise 34% of the country and their numbers are shrinking. Maybe there are positive changes on the horizon.
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this
RE,
It doesn’t work for me either.
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this
JC, do you feel like you may be embelishing a little?
Think FOX News qualifies as journalism, as opposed to what it actually is- Jerry Springer’s CNN for former special ed students;
I love how some folks feel like they need to demonize one of the few channels that criticize the democrats and their government controled plans for a brighter future.
By JC
March 1, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this
Scooter,
If you knew anything about journalism you would know that FOX does not qualify. The funny part is that out of all those things on the list, the only one you had a problem with was about FOX? HAHAHAHAHA.
By getalife
March 1, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this
Fox News
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this
JC, no I’m not a journalist. Perhaps you are? All I know is I have watched the news media for the last 18 years and have seen how the pity party only stopped to bash republicans, since Reagan was President.
Now, the F-word news comes out starts couter-weighting the media of the time. Yes, I have no problem at all saying F-news is biased to the right, free market and critical of Dems. Whereas before that was really unheard on rabit ears.
Maybe one of the other government lovers will relate that to a fascist tactic of villifying the oppostion.
As to my lack of comment on the remainder of your brilliant post. All I can speak for are the folks I know. and that doesn’t fit teh people I know their. Their are some so vilify till you get your government controled economy. How’s that for embelishing.
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this
getalife, that depends on what the meaning of is, is. Iraq is a big country.
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this
Alright I’m opening a word document, dang. You could tell I’m not a journalist.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this
If you cut through AP’s obvious, blatant bias and listen to this tape, you will find that Brownie did do a good job. Bush and FEMA were completely on top of this storm.
I have no idea what else could have been done, other than a total evacuation. This really makes the pinkos look pitiful.
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this
OO, a while back I think you were recommending a book to RW? The reviews made it sound worthy of a read and I got my copy in the mail today. THANKS!
By JC
March 1, 2006 06:51 PM | Link to this
Scooter,
No, I’m not a journalist; I’m an English teacher, so I do know something about embellishment. I also know something about writing complete sentences (you need help in that area-you wouldn’t pass the graduation test and that’s sad), grammar (I understand the difference between “their” and “there”), and spelling (teh? controled? rabit?). As for critical thinking, you admitted that FOX is not journalism because journalism, by nature, is not biased. You just proved to me that you do qualify for the other 12 descriptions on the list. Congratulations, You win the prize.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this
Ann does the Oscars!
For best actress in a supporting role, Rachel Weisz ought to win for “The Constant Gardener” because it’s about how drug companies are evil, which to me is the essence of quality acting. Plus, English accent equals good acting. But Michelle Williams (“Brokeback Mountain”) is engaged to Heath Ledger, who played a gay guy in “Brokeback Mountain.” So I pick Weisz, with Williams as the dark-horse favorite.
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this
JC do you have me built up as your little straw man, to knock over?
By Brian Curtis
March 1, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this
It is, in fact, illegal to violate a treaty we’ve signed. If Congress passed a resolution authorizing an invasion of a country we’d signed a peace treaty… that war would be illegal.
Since the US had agreed to a UN treaty for handling the Iraq situation—and then acted without UN approval, in violation of that treaty—the US therefore launched an illegal war, duh.
It’s like arguing with the anti-evolution crowd, as they desperately try to pretend that, yes, 2+2 MAY equal 4, but “you can’t just keep adding numbers and get a bigger one.” Say what?
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 07:10 PM | Link to this
JC, I hope you are as hard on your students as you were on me.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this
In this case Mr. Cheney’s critics want to know what happened between the time of accident and the time they heard about it. Like, why did Cheney waste valuable time administering first aid to his friend before notifying David Gregory of NBC News of the accident? What happened during the 25-minute “gap� while they were waiting for the ambulance? Did it have anything to do with Haliburton? Did the vice president try to gauge the victim’s level of consciousness by asking him for a campaign donation? Did Mr. Cheney fire the shot while standing on a grassy knoll? Was there, in fact, a second hunter, as Oliver Stone has undoubtedly already suggested? And of course, why wasn’t Harry Whittington wearing the proper body armor during this “friendly fire� incident?
Ned Rice is cranking on you, pinko.
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this
Brian Curtis,
We’ll await your link to the treaty that the United States signed giving our sovereignty over to the UN.
Interesting that you have switched from the Constitution to some amorphous agreement.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this
Brian Curtis,
One more time, show me the money as they say. What or who is the source for your “illegal treaty” info?
Ramsey Clark?
By Objective Observer
March 1, 2006 07:18 PM | Link to this
Scooter:
Sorry for the delay in responding, just got in. The book is “NAPKIN NOTES ON THE ART OF LIVING — By Gary Michael Durst, Ph.D.
And thanks for the THANKS Important message that we could all learn from.
J.C.
Arguments over grammar and style are often as fierce as those over IBM versus Mac, and as fruitless as Coke versus Pepsi and boxers versus briefs. By: Jack Lynch
I’ve been guilty of it myself, but I am learning self discipline to avoid condescention, a characteristic that is respected by no one.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 07:25 PM | Link to this
JC,
PHEW!! For a moment I thought that you might consider yourself a history teacher.
Tell me, in what capacity are you an “English teacher”? ESOL?
By Daniel
March 1, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this
When I think of self discipline I am reminded of what Dorothy Parker had to say: “I love a martini, Perhaps even two; With three I’m under the table, With four I’m under the host.”
By buff
March 1, 2006 07:34 PM | Link to this
Midori, OO, Devil Doll, RW, Ricky, Dusty, Andy, Semper Fi, Buy Danish, and getalife
My papa, NeoReo occasionally on this blog, died this afternoon. Mama found him chopping firewood, one of his favorite activities, late this afternoon
He turned 84 last December 7
We just got packed, in a few minutes my bride and I are headed to Missouri to bury my father
Sorry to be a “buzz kill” as the kids say, but please have a prayer or a kind thought for me
I am heart-broken, but God just got another Marine
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this
buff,
That’s awful news. My families prayers will be with you.
By Daniel
March 1, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this
buff: I am sorry to hear about your dad. At 84 he lived a long life. He also went smoothly, that is a blessing. I lost my dad in a similar fashion in 1989. I think of jim often. I will keep you and your family in my prayers.
By Midori
March 1, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this
Buff,
I’m so very sorry to hear that.
You poor baby
My deepest condolences……
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this
JC,
Your stupid little quiz makes you look far more bigoted than any of us could ever hope to be, not to mention illustrating for all of us that you are a simpleton and a horses a*.
I certainly hope that your “students” aren’t coming to school in pickup trucks. You might decide to flunk them just for the hell of it. For all your pretense of being the nice guy who doesn’t like to “kill things”, you sure are a mean-spirited S.O.B.
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 07:43 PM | Link to this
Its smooth sailin’ for that Marine and Jim now.
By getalife
March 1, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this
buff,
I am very sorry for your loss.
This blog will miss him.
God bless.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 07:49 PM | Link to this
buff,
God bless, and remember, “Grief is the price we pay for love”. We can’t mend your heart, but hopefully it will help to know that our thoughts are with you.
By Buy Danish
March 1, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this
Sorry about my note to JC being intermingled with the notes of condolence. I got the news about Neo-Reo just after I posted.
By Andy
March 1, 2006 07:54 PM | Link to this
Buff: Our hearts go out for your loss.
By Objective Observer
March 1, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this
Buff:
I am so sorry! I feel fortunate to have enjoyed a fun conversation with him just the other day. I’ll think of it as graduating early for his great accomplishments in life.
By Semper Fi
March 1, 2006 08:06 PM | Link to this
Buff, Sorry about your Dad. I’m sure St. Peter is waiting to greet him with a HOOrah! Prayers are with your Mom and the rest of the family.
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 08:06 PM | Link to this
BD, JC’s not mean spirited he is just compassionate and I’m sure he is a big advocate of tough love at the cost of self esteem.
By DavidU
March 1, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this
An Ohio truck driver and al Qaeda operative who pleaded guilty in 2003 to participating in a plot to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge wants to rescind that plea if the National Security Agency ever eavesdropped on him without a warrant.
Earlier in the week we were paying off $300,000 to settle a lawsuit for violations of constitutional rights (one of many to come), and now this.
By Midori
March 1, 2006 08:24 PM | Link to this
I think a truce should be called in light of Buff’s circumstances. At least for this evening.
Kinda hard griping with each other in the midst of such a tremendous loss.
I lost my father just one month before moving here from El Paso.
I was finally moving back to the East Coast so that I could spend more time with him and to be closer to him.
That was 10 years ago, and I still feel it in the pit of my stomach.
By JC
March 1, 2006 08:25 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish and Scooter,
I certainly can be a mean SOB. I don’t like Islamic extremists and I don’t like christian fundamentalists, with the mindless followers of each being essentially the exact same thing. But for anyone on this site to criticize someone for being condescending or callous is more than a bit ridiculous. Somewhat hypocritical, no?
And no, I’m not that hard on my students; I don’t expect high school kids to be able to eloquently articulate an opinion, but I do expect adults to be able to meet the minimal standards to graduate from high school.
Rock on, geniuses.
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 08:28 PM | Link to this
Daniel, yup now that. The we have our “allies”, that we alienated, doing all sorts of crazy stuff
“Germany’s secret release of a Lebanese Hezbollah terrorist convicted of killing a U.S. Navy diver during the 1985 hijacking of TWA 847 revives memories of past German deals with terrorist and their supporters. “
By Scooter
March 1, 2006 08:58 PM | Link to this
JC, you do however to presume to know the circumstances that another is typing under. Do you expect perfection in a roough draft from your students, or do you expect me to treat blogging like writing a business proposal?
In your rabid rant of compassion you also questioned my critical thinking skills. I actually work with engineers and they like my thoughts. So lets look at your tail between your legs Rock on , geniuses departure statement.
for anyone on this site to criticize someone for being condescending or callous is more than a bit ridiculous. Somewhat hypocritical, no?
Critically thinking that seems like a good way to come in and attack me for grammar and attempt insulate yourself from any retort. It’s good though.
By Dusty
March 1, 2006 09:16 PM | Link to this
Oh, Buff, I am so sorry about your father. We all enjoyed his stong spirit. I,too, say a prayer and send love for these sad times.
Dusty
By Danielle
March 1, 2006 09:21 PM | Link to this
Hi every one!
By Ricky
March 1, 2006 10:07 PM | Link to this
Wow JC that is one of the most racists posts I have ever read on here. Of course it just shows the that common belief that most on the left think they are so much smarter than those on the right is in fact true. But hey we knew that anyway
By JC
March 1, 2006 10:23 PM | Link to this
Ricky (Martin),
Simply put, yes it is true. There is a negative correlation between conservatism and level of education. The higher the education level, the less likely the person is to be conservative and vice versa. People with higher education levels tend to make judgments based on evidence- evidence of evolution, the use of stem cells, global warming, WMD’s, current government corruption, etc. Conservatives make judgments based on “faith,” which is just a nice word for “stupidity.” They believe things “just becuz.” Be proud, it’s all you have left.
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 10:27 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I put the link you wanted on both of our blogs.
Danielle,
Hi! Sad day on the blog.
Ricky,
Those were my feelings too.
By whynot
March 1, 2006 10:40 PM | Link to this
hey if Rickys saying hes racist then by God he MUST be racist oh wait ricky you arent stereotyping left wingers ARE YOU???? oh you little trickster
JC you SHOULD be that hard on your students and expect an original opinion or they might grow up to be like Ricky, and “faith” is a nice word for blind ignorance but the dems can be just as guilty as the repubs for relying on that crap
By whynot
March 1, 2006 10:50 PM | Link to this
buff,
Not to be mean or anything… but uh why the hell would you put that on a blog about Mike Lukovich? The day your dad died?? I mean I dont know about everyone else but my first though when someone dies is not to go to Mikes blog and tell everybody about it but maybe thats just me being a d**k like usual by the by dont tell me to go to hell because
“IM GOING TO HELL IN A BUCKET but at least im enjoying the ride”
By whynot
March 1, 2006 10:54 PM | Link to this
“The higher the education level, the less likely the person is to be conservative and vice versa”
“Education in the wrong way can be just as bad as ignorance” dont forget
By Danielle
March 1, 2006 10:55 PM | Link to this
RW I noticed and Im sorry for everyone’s loss. I just checked back in, I am attempting to figure out different characterstics I have to write an essay that I was assgined, my only difficulty is I don’t like sounding arrogant so I cant really think of what to write!
By JC
March 1, 2006 10:59 PM | Link to this
Ricky Martin,
I suppose you could somehow say my little profile was racist against white people (they are so disenfranchiased, you know), but I happen to be white (and hispanic). I believe it was more akin to demographic information, and if you did the research you’d see it wasn’t very far off. As a matter of fact, it was right on. Before any more of you right-wingnuts complain about it, why don’t you fess up and tell us how many of the 13 criteria apply to you? I have a feeling that you hillbillies are getting so bent out of shape because you see too much of your own reflection in it.
Support Socialism
By whynot
March 1, 2006 11:03 PM | Link to this
I do know a liberal hillbilly or 2 so dont be getting racist against them too
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 11:06 PM | Link to this
Danielle,
We’ve seen you write and you get your feelings across very well without sounding arrogant. Be true to yourself, otherwise you will come off as phony.
By JC
March 1, 2006 11:10 PM | Link to this
The liberal hillbillies are some of the best. Willie Nelson? Jimmy Carter? Wonderful, insightful, enlightened individuals. The world would be a better place with more of them.
Support Socialism
By getalife
March 1, 2006 11:13 PM | Link to this
Thanks RW,
I posted it here
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 11:15 PM | Link to this
whynot,
Buff didn’t just make a general post on ml’s blog, he notified several friends of his father’s passing. We know Buff and NeoReo from this blog and in most of our cases it is the only place we know each other from.
I hope when a loved one of yours suddenly passes away no one begrudges you the opportunity to notify your friends even if it means that those you don’t know may be briefly uncomfortable.
By Danielle
March 1, 2006 11:22 PM | Link to this
RW thank you but I just have no idea what characteristics I have! I know I know myself and everything! I have written it now, but it took me over an hour to figure where to go with it, and I had three essays to write and that was the hardest, and now that I finally have that done I believe its time for bed, and I realized that tonight the blog is being slow with a delay, so this will more than likly be my last post for the evening. So good night everyone and I hope everyone has a great week, and GOD Bless!
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 11:22 PM | Link to this
getalife,
That was nice of you to do that.
Didn’t you want to use the conversation? That post about not wanting to drive around in a beer can was classic NeoReo. Maybe you could post it in comments or we could save it somewhere. It will disappear completely from here in a month or so. Let me know if you want me to save it over on my storage page.
By WHY
March 1, 2006 11:26 PM | Link to this
whynot,
You are beneath contempt.
By whynot
March 1, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this
Well Im just saying if I start thinking of my good friends as blog buddies that need to be notified when tragedy happens remind me to kill myself
By Danielle
March 1, 2006 11:28 PM | Link to this
whynot Perhaps you should think about how Buff feels right now, his father just passed and someone he doesnt even know is going to harass him because he chose to simply tell some of his and his late fathers friends of his passing.
Honestly I did not have the pleaseure of talking with either before tonight, and even though I did not know him, I express my sympathy to that family, I know how it is to lose someone that you love. And Buff my prayers are with you and your family.
Whynot, perhaps you should consider others feelings before you go and make presumptions on things, and if you actually read his post you would have realized that this blog is how he and his father knew those people.
Thanks, and seeing as the last post I posted was going to be my last post b/c its late and I have school tomorrow, I am closing the window and going to bed, Good Night Everyone and GOD Bless!
By DavidU
March 1, 2006 11:39 PM | Link to this
whynot - Buff was just trying to notify his and his dad’s cyber friends of what happened. I’m pretty new to this blog but from what I can see the main bloggers (which buff is part of) have been here for a while and they probably only know each other from this blog, so it was the only way to get the information out.
That being said, Buff has been here long enough to know that by putting out that type of personal information someone might make an inappropriate comment regarding it.
My condolences to the family.
By whynot
March 1, 2006 11:45 PM | Link to this
WE DONT EVEN KNOW HIS REAL NAME!!!! how close is that? I talked to him once before and thers just as good chance that his father didnt die that hes some wierdo at a computer just like theres that chance for everybody on this blog. I actually had a conversation with him a long time ago on this blog and uh I gotta tell you I didnt feel any strong connection between him and this blog infact I wouldve figured him pretty weird if I had
I mean is it not just the same that someone he doesnt know is “harrassing” him as a bunch of people who havent even “had the pleasure of talking with him” saying that hes in their prayers maybe he just yearns for sympathy or maybe he genuinely thinks as some of you as his friends and just wanted to tell you that his dad died oh and by the by I have no feelings say what you want go for it rip me to shreds but It will be a cold day in hell before I think about what others feel
By RW-(the original)
March 1, 2006 11:48 PM | Link to this
DavidU,
I’m sure you are right about Buff knowing that, I also bet he won’t say a word about it. The rest of us are a different story and Midori said it best earlier when she asked everybody to lay off, so we will graciously point out an inappropriate comment without any major flareup.
BTW, In blog years you are a grizzled veteran here so give up this newbie facade.
By getalife
March 1, 2006 11:48 PM | Link to this
RW,
Yes, I will post the rest tomorrow including Danielle’s last post.
Goodnight.
By Dusty
March 2, 2006 12:01 AM | Link to this
Well, whynot, I might mention empathy but what’s the use. Wouldn’t mean much to you. Sorry you missed out. G’nite all.
By Eric Kerr
March 2, 2006 12:02 AM | Link to this
“Liberals lie all the time in this blog”
Remember how you all defended the comments against NGAs daughter just last week with that reasoning. It goes both ways, now there’s someone who doesn’t believe buffs story. On ash Wednesday, everyone should give up their skepticism, and learn to have faith.
By DavidU
March 2, 2006 12:03 AM | Link to this
RW- Once I hit the month mark of being here, I will update my status :)
By RW-(the original)
March 2, 2006 12:05 AM | Link to this
getalife,
I must have seen it much earlier when you first started it. Goodnight.
whynot,
You are obviously free to do and say what you want, but sometimes it would be better to back away from the keyboard. You are anonymous here, but you aren’t anonymous in your own heart and soul.
By RW-(the original)
March 2, 2006 12:12 AM | Link to this
Eric Kerr,
Your sentiment sounds sincere, but you are grossly mis-characterizing that other conversation.
By finch
March 2, 2006 12:12 AM | Link to this
My prayers to buff. And hats off in respect to NeoReo. We should all live that long and still keep out brains and wit.
whynot? Go to your room. And no dessert.
By Dusty
March 2, 2006 12:18 AM | Link to this
RW,
Of course I will raise one with you and go for a second. You know NeoReo would like Manischevitz. Any body who doesn’t like to ride around in a “beer can” would surely appreciate Manischevitz. Pour me another one!! But you will have to do the driving.
By RW-(the original)
March 2, 2006 12:32 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
I’ll drive, but like NeoReo it won’t be a beer can and it sure as hell won’t be a Manischevitz bottle. (Do you think finch meant “our” instead of “out”?)
Buff, this one’s for you too:
Thirsty days hath September, April, June and November; All the rest are thirsty too Except for him who hath home brew.
By Dusty
March 2, 2006 01:01 AM | Link to this
RW,
Are you TRYING to say that I don’t know good wine??? Sir, my butler only pours the best and he said this 2005 was a good year for Manischevitz. Yes, tres bien.
(I think finch meant “our”. If I don’t get to sleep soon it will be “out” for me.)
Adieu, mon ami and g’nite.
By Willis
March 2, 2006 01:06 AM | Link to this
Bush. What a national disgrace the little fraud is. More about him is revealed every day in every way. He should be in prison. Or worse/better. A stench.
By RW-(the original)
March 2, 2006 01:08 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
Bonne nuit amoureux de vin!
By Ralph
March 2, 2006 01:13 AM | Link to this
Ah, but DEATH doesn’t stop Buff’s never-ending hate, does it?? No Sir! Nothing stops the Neocon hatred. Seems to be inbred. Think about it. No apologies to Buff are in order at any time. Scum like that would knife you - strictly the back - in an instant.
By WashingtonState
March 2, 2006 02:43 AM | Link to this
Interesting video clips AP released March 1 of Bush being briefed about Katrina and New Orleans before the storm hit. Maybe it is just me, but it sure seems to contradict many of the statements put out by the administration after they lost control of the situation. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the administration’s news releases on Iraq fall in the same category as their post-Katrina news releases. Also interesting that the folks in Washington are defending Bush by pointing out that this was only one of many briefings. Kind of explains why U.T. law school didn’t accept him as a law student. Sorting through information and prioritizing are important skills for a lawyer to have.
By Andy
March 2, 2006 06:14 AM | Link to this
I let some comments in here slide last night, out of respect, apologies to those who may consider this response a bit premature:
If I were a teacher, like, let’s say, JC, before I went and congratulated myself and my profession, I believe a would take a quick look at Georgia’s SAT scores and America’s educational standing compared to the 23 or so countries that are better than us.
The “intelligence” of the left has led to the creation of a permanent underclass in our society and it has reduced women to disposable sex objects (much to the delight of 18 year old boys.) Where our culture used to respect the elderly we now demean them. We are now raising an entire generation of children without exposure to etiquette, manners, civility but instead are enslaving them to sexual enticement and peer pressure as their measure of “success.”
I employ some of these products of our higher education system, and without exception, I am appalled at the lack of any viable education. Sure they can share experiences of drunken frat parties and lecture on the ins and outs of the victim industry, but this is not practical knowledge, despite what some of you pinkos are thinking right now.
The left has set a course of action in the United States designed to weaken us from within, both domestically and internationally. This, I grant, they are having great success at.
You, JC, are welcome to be proud of yourself.
By Biscuits and Gravy
March 2, 2006 06:41 AM | Link to this
Buff: Sorry about your loss. Was on-line the other day when NeoReo was posting. Your Dad was a hoot and pretty sharp, too.
Ralph: Are you Homo Sapien or has someone taught a weasel how to type. You are disgusting; bite me.
WS: The Bush pre-Katrina videos are a little more onerous than you describe. They indicate quite clearly that the President deliberately lied in his post-disaster spin control (a picture is worth a thousand words when looking at liars). Since the Reps wanted to impeach Clinton for lying, I would now have to wonder why it is that they aren’t all over this. I suppose that lying is only impeachable to a Rep when a Dem is involved. Looks like Clinton had more to do with politics than with morals afterall, huh. Surprise, surprise, surprise. (2 faces=0 credibility)
What floors me is that the President lied when the truth would have done better. Had he said that he misjudged the potential for disaster, no problem. What he said was that “no one could have forseen…”, when before, during, and after Katrina he was being deluged with dire warnings from his many multiple agencies, including his own creation, DHS! This is a new LOW for this administration.
By Andy
March 2, 2006 06:49 AM | Link to this
Biscuits and Gravy: Have you even watched the tapes? The national weather service said specifically “no one knew if the hurricane would overtop the levees” while Bush said no one could “foresee the levees failing. It’s two entirely different subjects to normal people who aren’t stalking the President of the United States.
By Scooter
March 2, 2006 07:52 AM | Link to this
The AP link that I saw showed FEMA getting briefed, in DC, of potential levy breaches. Bush was in Crawford. The simple fact odf the matter is, generally I have found the first people to place blame are generally the most culpable (read Blanco and Nagin).
However, I refuse to get into the blame placement game when such an act of god destroys lifes, liberals do nat have that cooth.
Andy, I’ll bet JC was one of those liberals who proffessed how gangster rap was just black youths way of expressing themselves. It was the stupid ignorant hillbillies who said that stuff wasn’t gonna be good for society much less black culture. But, it helps keep black youth angry, envious, resentful, materialistic, etc… These are all things the dem party depends on.
Also, don’t be hard on him, he teaches English. My hillbilly butt simply does Environmental Engineering and I have a strong background in Economics, but he teaches English in High School, government controlled high school possibly.
By Brian Curtis
March 2, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this
Article VI of the U.S. Constitution, folks:
“the Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all treaties made or shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the Supreme Law of the Land.”
That means that, by our own laws, a treaty IS the law of the land; no Congressional resolution can nullify it, no “unusual circumstances” (such as military action) can invalidate it. The Constitution, and the treaties we’ve signed, ARE THE LAW.
There’s not much you neocon dorks can do about that except pretend it doesn’t exist and hope that nobody knows it… but it’s not working.
And no, Andy, that doesn’t make us “subjects of the UN”… it makes us a nation of laws, which not even Traitor Bush is above. Remember all the whining abou the “rule of law” a few years back? Well, it’s still here, and it smacks just as hard against Bush’s crimes as against Clinton’s.
By RW-(the original)
March 2, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this
Brain Curtis,
Leaving aside the fact that Article VI of the Constitution is specifically written to say that individual STATES cannot override a FEDERAL treaty, where is the treaty that cedes our sovereignty, pursuant to Iraq, to the UN?
By Buy Danish
March 2, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this
RW,
I guess we didn’t get a copy of that “Living Constitution, where under the Authority of the United States was revised to under the Authority of the United Nations.
By Scooter
March 2, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this
I think the US constitution was brought back to life by the dems, so it could have a little intercourse with the Communist Manifesto.
By Brian Curtis
March 2, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this
More hysteria from the neocons whenever treaties are mentioned… not surprising, since Bush apparently wants the power to ignore them.
Too bad he doesn’t HAVE that power. Abiding by treaties we’ve signed is not “ceding our sovereignty to the UN,” any more than paying for your purchases is “ceding power to Kroger.” Grow up, children.
The U.S. by its own Constitution, is bound to abide by the treaties it signs. The handling of Iraq (as well as the terms of a “just war”) is among those treaties. Therefore, it has the force of law.
That is, unless you believe that Traitor Bush really IS above the law, as he claims. But fortunately, there are enough patriotic Americans (read: Democrats and actual conservatives, who care about the Constitution) who are willing to stand up to him on that point. You’re welcome to watch and learn.
By Buy Danish
March 2, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this
Brian Curtis,
Who did the U.N. sign the treaty WITH? Or is that above your pay grade?
By up your's y'all
March 4, 2006 07:36 PM | Link to this
To the right wing facist Bush lovers, This cartoon is right on the money. How do you feel now that it is self evident Bush has played you for patriotic fools? Shame on any American for believing in this liar and double shame on those who stubbornly defend the indefensible. If stupidity and ignorance were of value this country would be running a surplus instead of trillion $ debt. And please, try to avoid the common right wing tactic of blaming others for your failures when the final bell has rung on the Iraq abortion.