Mike Luckovich

By Drain-o

February 27, 2006 11:19 PM | Link to this

W the world’s policeman.In his heart he think he is right but he is just like the fed-x ad. He just always wrong! But we are safe from terror.

By George

February 27, 2006 11:25 PM | Link to this

[The latest CBS News poll finds President Bush’s approval rating has fallen to an all-time low of 34 percent, while pessimism about the Iraq war has risen to a new high.

Americans are also overwhelmingly opposed to the Bush-backed deal giving a Dubai-owned company operational control over six major U.S. ports. Seven in 10 Americans, including 58 percent of Republicans, say they’re opposed to the agreement.](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/27/opinion/polls/main1350874.shtml)

By Objective Observer

February 27, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this

Well, it does bring a chuckle, but in memory of Barney, not in context.

By RW-(the original)

February 27, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this

ml, Don Knotts was an entertainer that devoted his entire life to making us smile. For you to use his death to poke fun at President Bush is despicable.

By Buy Danish

February 27, 2006 11:34 PM | Link to this

Tastless. The body is still warm for xsakes.

By DavidU

February 27, 2006 11:41 PM | Link to this

If you go by the TV character, incredibly funny comparison. But the man just died, should have kept this one in the drawer a week or two more, ML.

By finch

February 27, 2006 11:53 PM | Link to this

I think a cartoon featuring Darrin McGavin in his “Kolchak - The Night Stalker” role scoping out Karl Rove and Hillary dressed as vampires would have been a lot funnier. You know, who’s obsessed with whom anyway?

But hey, Darrin’s body is still warm, too.

At any rate, a cheap shot. No pun intended.

By Dusty

February 28, 2006 12:01 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Tasteless is not strong enough for this cartoon. Let me help you: cheap, coarse, graceless, gross, improper,inelegant,low, rude,crude,tacky,tawdry,uninspired,tactless, and a really ugly cartoon.

(A thesaurus is a big help sometimes.)

By gttim

February 28, 2006 12:12 AM | Link to this

Classic! Spot on! Barney Fife, however, had a good heart and good intentions. Bush has neither.

I just recently saw Don Knotts on an old Flip Wilson rerun. What a talent. Now Darrin McGavin and Dennis Weaver as well. I have fond memories of all these guys, and watched them all for countless hours on TV. This is shaping up to be a sad week.

By rushncap

February 28, 2006 01:34 AM | Link to this

In 2 weeks there will be 2 kinds of people in America: those who don’t know who Don Knotts is, and those who don’t know that he died. In 2 weeks this cartoon would not have been understood by anyone.

Though, to be fair, it’s not all that funny either.

By DavidU

February 28, 2006 02:28 AM | Link to this

The federal government has agreed to pay $300,000 to settle a lawsuit brought by an Egyptian who was among dozens of Muslim men swept up in the New York area after 9/11, held for months in a federal detention center in Brooklyn and deported after being cleared of links to terrorism….”This is a substantial settlement and shows for the first time that the government can be held accountable for the abuses that have occurred in Abu Ghraib, Guantánamo Bay and in prisons right here in the United States,” said one of the lawyers

Not good, not good.

By Russ

February 28, 2006 03:49 AM | Link to this

Good one, ML. Don Knotts was such a delight and talent. We’re losing too many of them.

Another take on this is that it’s an insult to Barney Fifes everywhere!

By Bill

February 28, 2006 03:55 AM | Link to this

No RW. You’re just looking in the mirror. YOU’RE despicable. It’s a habit w you. It’s all you know and all you are. Stop the phoney compassion. Maybe we should all take a walk with Homo Andy and Jesus!

By Pinko Liberal

February 28, 2006 04:04 AM | Link to this

I’ve always liked ML but this time he’s gone too far. How dare he sully the name of Don Knotts by having that idiot portray him in a cartoon.

By Scott

February 28, 2006 04:13 AM | Link to this

Let us all bow our heads and have ANDY & Jesus lead us in good neofascist prayer. (See 02/25/06 @ 6:04 PM)

By Joel

February 28, 2006 04:55 AM | Link to this

You’ve actually managed to be insulting to Don Knotts memory the day after he died. Nice work.

By Me

February 28, 2006 05:58 AM | Link to this

This is one time that I must agree with Pinko Liberal & Joel. At least when Don Knotts played Barney Fife it was an act. Bush really is like that.

By Andy

February 28, 2006 06:11 AM | Link to this

The price to see a lame cartoonist disrespect the memory of the recently departed: 50 cents.

The value of very well timed vent: I saw the FEMA float at a Mardi Gras parade. It was broken down, but nobody would get off.

Priceless.

By Liberal Texas Democrat

February 28, 2006 06:26 AM | Link to this

Good cartoon - poorly timed

By Duh

February 28, 2006 06:26 AM | Link to this

“For you to use his death to poke fun at President Bush is despicable.”

Oh my god, you people have now lost all touch with reality. Barney Fife was not a real person he was merely a character and as a character he continues to be as alive today as he was last week. It was Don Knotts that passed away.

At the same time the Barney in the White House will now have to watch as his approval continue in a free fall and he is helpless to do anything about it.

That puke Andy the Brainless who is king in here should be along at any moment to tell us how this is all the Jews fault and you all will of course immediately drop to your knees and proclaim Andy to be your savior as usual.

By Charles

February 28, 2006 07:19 AM | Link to this

Just like the Coretta Scott King funeral, Liberals don’t have any class or show any dignity - like the Bush family does everyday. I don’t know how he keeps from lashing back out at morons like Luckovich.

By Andy

February 28, 2006 07:20 AM | Link to this

Imagine if FEMA didn’t exist, and everyone acted on the truth that the federal government is unable to function well in almost every sphere. Cities and states would have to provide for their own people and have plans to help them in an emergency. Citizens would recognize that they have personal responsibility to protect themselves and their property.- NY Sun 2/28/06, “Pretend the Feds Don’t Exist.”

Nursing homes and hospitals would recognize that they need to have their own evacuation plans. Homeless shelters, local governments and other aid organizations would make it part of their mission to protect the most disadvantaged among us. We would all be safer.

Now act on that thought. The next time disaster strikes, you and your community should behave as if you are on your own, because you may well be, for quite some time. Start planning for that today.

What is this dude talking about? Personal responsibility? What do they think this is, America?

By DCMike

February 28, 2006 07:26 AM | Link to this

Think Bush’s approval rating is bad….Cheney’s is at 18%! Think about that…18%.

By Edd Williams

February 28, 2006 07:27 AM | Link to this

This one was in even poorer taste than usual. You really are what your name rhymes with.

By Andy

February 28, 2006 07:29 AM | Link to this

Mr. Buckley’s pessimism may be premature. Both Sunni and Shia religious leaders have called for calm. The Moqtada al Sadr, whose militia was in the forefront of the retaliatory attacks on Sunni mosques, prayed publicly Saturday with the Sunni Association of Muslim Scholars. Thousands of ordinary Sunnis and Shias joined together in half a dozen Iraqi (Asia) cities to demonstrate for peace.

“We have much more evidence of a strong national unity movement in Iraq,” said Iraqi Web logger Haider Ajina of the weekend demonstrations. “This attack was supposed to plunge Iraq into sectarian mayhem and senseless massive killing. This did not happen.”

These peaceful demonstrations for peace drew little attention from a news media that is eager to report on a civil war, even if it isn’t happening.

By The Grinch

February 28, 2006 07:48 AM | Link to this

Don Knotts was a Bush supporter…..

By Kerry

February 28, 2006 08:01 AM | Link to this

Some delusional person on here said the Bush family displays class everyday. Are you on drugs? the guy can barely string a coherent sentence together and don’t even get me started on the daughters! Get your head out of the SAND, buddy…

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

Oh my word, the left is qouting poll neumbers now. Don’t they know we conservatives are the sheep too stupid to follow the heard.

For thirty years America only had a hard left leaning media, with no counter weight, and conservatives still wouldn’t follow.

By Mike

February 28, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this

Right on the money with your comment Kerry - “WWJD” What Would Jenna Drink?

By Mark

February 28, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

Barney Fife is not dead people, Don Knotts is. Stop complaining. Keep up the good work Mike.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this

Kerry,

I hear that a new, softer Al Gore is coming back for a re-run. Add Hill to the mix, and you’re about to be squished like a bug by your own party.

I will be looking forward to seeing how much grace and class you and your former teammates display. That’s entertainment!

Meanwhile, here’s a nice family photo of your classy daughter

Reminds me about a certain line about living in glass houses…

By Mrs. Godzilla

February 28, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

Mike, how could you insult Barney this way! Me and Thelma Lou and Juanita are ticked! No more Wednesday night date! No more meat loaf at the diner!

By AntiRadical

February 28, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

Nice point Mark. Some here can’t seem to seperate “reality” from “fiction”. Still GWB/Barney Fife is an analogy I could have done without. Point of the toon is of course that GWB in regards to Iraq is “killing the patient to cure the disease”, “throwing out the baby with the bath water”, etc. Turning GWB into Barney in this short a time frame does demonstrate MLs ever improving artistic ability, though.

By Objective Observer

February 28, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

While our soldiers probably won’t find humor in ml’s cartoon, they find it in Iraq

Nothing much happens at Brooks’ station, too. But the birds are more aggressive there. He said one attacked him last week while he was manning a guard tower. He thinks it was going after a string attached to his pants, perhaps thinking it as a mouse’s tail.

“It hit and went out and was coming back around for another strike,� Brooks said.

Spc. Michael Hardy said he had a similar experience in a guard tower at the same station. An owl attacked him, he said.

“All of a sudden all I heard was screeching,� said Hardy, 40, of Athens, Ala. “I thought, ‘Oh, my God. What the dickens is this thing?�

“My hair was standing on end. I didn’t know what the hell was going on. I don’t think my heart could stand all that excitement again.�

Brooks joked: “We were attacked by the Iraqi Air Force.�

By Dick Marti

February 28, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

Mike, This was not good. A better cartoon would be to combine the Cheney “quail” shoot with the downing of Iraq. But please, don’t insult Don Knotts like this. And the man’s only been dead a couple of days.

By Mike

February 28, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

Blending the fictional everyman of Barney Fife with the fictional common-man of George W. Bush ROCKS!

Barney wanted to do the right things for the right reasons, the true goal of everyman and the common-man. Not at all bad. Yet, how much harm would Barney have done without the sheriff to slow down the impulsive urges?

The analogy should include Andy Taylor and Aunt Bea as the other two parts of United States government: Congress and the Supreme Court.

Well done, Mike!

By Freedom Fries

February 28, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this

Mike Luckovich, you’re the greatest!

By Brian Curtis

February 28, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this

This is an unfair comparison; Barney’s MUCH smarter than Gee Dubya.

By Magic Juan

February 28, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

Oh, the irony …

Liberals taking cheap shots at the President’s daughters … while the son of Georgia’s Democratic lieutenant governor was charged with felony DUI after an accident that resulted in the death of a young man.

You folks are too much. Really.

BTW, low poll numbers or not, W will be the President (and Cheney the veep) until January 09.

Deal with it.

P.S. “Mike”: you wondered what Jenna Bush would drink. Have you ever given much thought to what Fletcher Taylor might have been drinking on Aug. 18, 2005?

I didn’t think so.

By Eric

February 28, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

Very funny, Mike. I’ll bet ole Barn is having a chuckle about it right now. Rest in peace old friend.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

For all you poll obsessed liberals, why do you have to stack the deck if everybody is on your side?

By jackie curtis

February 28, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

Oh, you do a disservice to Barney. The big difference between Barney and Bush is that we LOVED Barney!!!

By finch

February 28, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Speaking of surveys…

“U.S. Troops in Iraq: 72% Say End War in 2006” - Zogby International - Released: February 28, 2006

By James Rayis

February 28, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

The political point misses badly here. But the tasteless insult to a deceased comedic actor is spot on. Cartoonists don’t have to be clever I suppose - only coarse. It would help to have something funny now and again. Don Knotts we miss you.

By Jesus

February 28, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Midori

February 28, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

Don’t you just love how liberals are portrayed as “poll possessed” just for stating the obvious?

ROFL!!!!!

By Midori

February 28, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

Magic, er, Don Juan,

looking at the man in the mirror?

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this

Midori, the obvious like finch’s poll ^^^^. Let me see if my pea brain can figure Finch’s pollout? The troops are there and they are seeing the Iraqis success, while all we hear is the operations failures, and it is news, to finch that as Iraqis stand up we will stand down? I think the troops have been paying more attention than we.

Busy creating terrorist I guess

By Midori

February 28, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

RW— you don’t know dick

:)

By Midori

February 28, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

Scooter — perhaps you should direct your inquiries to Finch himself.

Ya think?

By Lewis Marks

February 28, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

This comparison gives George W. Bush way too much credit. Barney Fife at least had sense enough to know that he should never try to be sheriff!

By finch

February 28, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

“The troops are there and they are seeing the Iraqis success, while all we hear is the operations failures”

Flash back to just last Friday:

“WASHINGTON (CNN) — The only Iraqi battalion capable of fighting without U.S. support has been downgraded to a level requiring them to fight with American troops backing them up, the Pentagon said Friday.”

Success?

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

finch is just pointing out the obvious, right?

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this

That’s it finch accentuate the shortcomings, but don’t dig too deep, the findings may not fit your goal.

How much and what type of support are the Iraqi’s requiring?

By ChickenHawk Bush

February 28, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

Iraqi success: 1,300 Iraqi’s killed last week.

By ChickenHawk Bush

February 28, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

Iraqi success: 1,300 Iraqi’s killed last week.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

poll possessed?

Does that require an exorcism?

By Voice of Reason

February 28, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Does that count for strippers too?

By SarahConnah

February 28, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Compared to “The Crawford Clown”, Barney was mensa genius.

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

The tin man is looking for what it requires to see through polls and statistics

By Andy

February 28, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

Bush, Speaking Up Against Bigotry

Richard Chen, Washington Post, 2/27/06.

To overlook the xenophobic element in this controversy is to overlook the obvious. It is what propelled the squabble and what sustains it. Bush put his finger on it right away. What I find interesting is that it's OK for a British company to manage some ports, but not OK for a company from a country that is a valuable ally in the war on terror,'' he said last week.The UAE has been a valuable partner in fighting the war on terror.” It is a long way from a terrorist haven.

By Susie

February 28, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

A pretty low blow to the memory of someone who has been part of my life since childhood, and part of others lives since before I was born.

The character of Barney Fife was as southern as cornbread, and the show he was on was characteristic of the way many of us grew up.

Why couldn’t you do something like what you did with Lewis Grizzard? Saint Peter making Barney hand over his bullet before letting him in would have been cute.

Making it political was certainly not the tribute you were capable of.

By Ricky

February 28, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

The sadest part about this whole port issue is the blantant hyprocrisy by many of those who are complaining the most(Schumer and Reid, etc). They have railed against racial profiling in airports and elsewhere since 9/11, but now they are doing the exact same thing. You didn’t hear them complaining when a Chinese company took over port operations in a couple of ports on the West Coast did you? Once again, it just goes to show that many members of Congress are more concerned about political gains than really attempting to take care of their citizens.

By DCM

February 28, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

WWJD…”What would Jenna Drink” Now that’s Funny! Isn’t that the truth…talk about hypocrisy, a President who is so obsessed about two men kissing and yet his daughters fall down drunk every day, and god knows what they do at night in bed!

By Andy

February 28, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

CBS Slants Bush Poll in Favor of Democrats

Go figure.

On the bottom of the PDF version of the poll (page 18) it says how many Democrats versus Republicans were contacted.

“Total Republicans” contacted: 272 unweighted and 289 weighted.

“Total Democrats” contacted: 409 unweighted and 381 weighted.

“Total Independents” contacted: 337 unweighted and 348 weighted.

Following the lofty idealism, honesty and traditions set by Dan Rather.

By Andy

February 28, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

xcuse me. Richard Cohen (famous pinko) @ 11:02 not Richard Chen.

By Ricky

February 28, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

DCM, you must live a sad life to make posts like that. I sure hope things start to look better for you in the coming days

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Be careful, I linked that poll and Midori came unglued.

By Objective Observer

February 28, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

Susie:

ml’s canvas is very limited in size and scope. It’s called the AJC. You get what you pay for. Or don’t pay for in my case.

By getalife

February 28, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

Happy Mardi Gras!

Another great one Mike, I am whistling the theme song I grew up with.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

Andy,

While the xenophobia argument can be used against them, and the hypocrisy of those who live for diplomatic solutions and “making friends” is evident, I think their anti-UAE positions is simply a case of blatant opportunism.

Surely the far Left fringe of the Dems (i.e. those who run the show) are more inclined to support Palestinians than Jews, so it’s hard to argue that they are “anti-muslim” or “anti-Arab”. Of course they are in a corner and can’t publicly use their anti-Israeli views to prove that they are not xenophobes.

Simply put, the party that cheered when the Patriot Act was “killed” (albeit only temporarily), that peddles in lies about wire-tapping, and sides with our enemies in the propaganda war at every opportunity, is not the party we can trust with national security.

This UAE deal is their one and only shot to feign strength, and they will brush off accusations of xenophobia because they have race-baited for so long that as a nation we are nearly numb to the accusations, and they know it.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

RW,

Please enlighten me.

just when did I become “unglued”?

what an a$$

By finch

February 28, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

RW,

I’m wondering what’s the rationale behind the decision by CBS to release the methodology of it’s poll, without explaining why it’s weighted the way it is? It sure looks fishy, but I confess I’m not an empirical statistician nor a survey methodologist.

One of my few shortcomings.

Ducks!

By DCM

February 28, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

Ricky- Nope. Wonderful life here…firm in beliefs, wonderful partner, wonderful friends, personal relationship with God, but call em like I see them. Will not stand for hyprocisy in any form or fashion. Sorry your life is so wrapped up in ignorance, hate, blinded faith to our leader, and that you see the world only through the narrow prism that is your own eyesight.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

RW,

I didn’t even look at that stupid link.

“Newsbusters”? gimme a fricking break!!

“Liberal Bias”? that dog don’t hunt.

Every poll I’ve seen has Bush in the toilet, where he deservedly belongs.

P.S. Dan Rather has more integrity in his pinky finger than ALL of your right wing rags put together.

News Busters —yeah right.

Let me do some research.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

Finch,

now we know what RW’s alias is: Greg Sheffield

By kimberly

February 28, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

Midori, here ya go.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

Midori,

So that was you whistling from behind me a few minutes ago. Thank you!

finch,

That link takes you to a PDF of the raw numbers and what they say are weighted numbers. It gives you no information on methodology or how they determined the weighting. When you have three political groups, Republican, Democrat, and Independent, and the Republican group is the smallest sample it’s very hard to put much faith in it’s accuracy considering it’s a political poll. Maybe if they were asking your favorite flavor of ice cream this would be alright.

The funniest thing in the poll to me is a question about press coverage of the Cheney hunting accident. 9% said not enough time was devoted to the story.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

DCM,

Ricky’s a complete moron.

Not worth wasting your time on.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

RW,

Apparently Midori thinks that Newsbusters is messing around with a CBS Poll and restating the numbers.

“Possessed” is right.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

“Unglued” is starting to look accurate as well.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this

Kimberly,

Thanks for the link. Now that Chris Matthews has compared Bush to Atticus Finch, I can disregard Cindy Sheehan’s comparison of terrorist lawyer Lynn Stewart to the very same A.F.

“To Kill a Mockingbird” has been redeemed for me.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

no, I don’t think Newsbusters is messing around with a CBS Poll.

I just think that you people are grasping at straws, er, spaghetti again.

I wonder how many of those “Democrats” polled used to ID themselves as “Republicans”??

After all, you people don’t have very much to be proud of these days, and I can see some being embarrassed to admit being a Republican.

That is, except for the deluded imbiciles on this blog.

speaking of “possessed”.

Hey, I see that Bush “hearts” Osama, according to CNN.

P.S. BD — How’s those orgasms coming? Did the new hat help?

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

How does that thing go? There are three types of lies… lies, damn lies and… drawing a blank on the last one. Oh yeah statistics!

finch, I’m wondering why any objective American would believe a poll without knowing the sample size and population, and also the wording of the questions, much less qoute it?

By Andy

February 28, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

RW: I saw that, for some reason I feel like rubbing their faces in this one:

CBS Slants Bush Poll in Favor of Democrats

Hey, Midori, if “NewsBusters” ain’t good enough for you, how about C B.S. themselves?

Scroll to page 18 for proof of their Anti Bush partisanship*

finch: They buried their “full disclosure” on page 18 of a PDF file that had to be practically unearthed. This gave you kooks a couple of days of gleeful rejoicing in Bush and Cheney’s demise. Now that C B.S. has been outed, they can point to the PDF as proof of their “honesty.”

This may be a wholly ethical practice in your eyes……

To me though, put it together with the Dan Blather/ Mapes bout of fabrication and we have a very biased institution that has no right to be claiming a mantle of fairness. Period.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

Here is the PDF of the CBS poll straight from the SeeBS web site. Amazingly the numbers are the same as what Newsbusters said they were.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

RW,

There must be too much steam from all that bathwater.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

how about some glue to hold your jerk theories together?

Since you are so good at dissecting numbers, have at it?

Are ALL of these “biased” in favor of Democrats?

You’re proud of these numbers?

Of course you are.

One man’s 40% is another man’s 50%, right?

Bush the most loved man on Earth, according to the -3% of RW morons who post on this blog.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

RW,

Do you, Dusty and Buy Danish have a signal in the form of Bush’s cowboy hat?

You three sure seem “inseparable”.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

By Midori

February 28, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

poor idiot right wingers.

CBS IS BIASED!!!

WHA!! WHA!!!!

Clue phone is ringing.

Bush is sh*t.

I don’t need a poll to tell me that.

But like the National Guard memos, you guys have to go thru leaps and bounds to discredit the story, and the very same news organization itself.

I guess all of these guys are full of it, eh?

All of them are biased, eh?

All of them oversampled democrats and independents, eh?

Tell me: why are your numbers shrinking?

How many of you are so embarrassed by this administration, that you don’t dare identify yourself as republican anymore?

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

Midori,

That link you just provided shows how out of whack the SeeBS poll was. But, I’ll accept your information as proof that President Bush will not be reelected.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

Man, oh man!!!

Look at those disapproval numbers?

What the hell am I talking about??

They are ALL biased!!!

BIASED I tell you!!!!

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

RW,

Rush is starting off program on the BS CBS poll.

My question is, how did you and Andy know that this poll was important if you hadn’t yet gotten your mind-numbed robot instructions?

By Andy

February 28, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

Midori: C B.S. is an average of 6 points lower than anybody else in your link. How does this prove they are not partisan hacks?

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

Jumping through hoops to discredit the Gunga Dan memos. That was some of the easiest hoop jumping in modern history.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

you know, I understand your pain.

I understand republicans being embarrassed, and not wanting to be tied to Bush.

I really, really do.

Let Mommy kiss it and make it feel all better.

It will be better in the morning.

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

“All of them are biased, eh?”

No, but they do tell the poll takers what to think about.

By Andy

February 28, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

Did somebody just say C B.S. and credibility in the same post? BWAHAHAHA, please.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Didn’t polls show that Kerry was supposed to win the election?

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

We had it here before Drudge too. The problem is what you probably just heard on Rush’s show. The breathless montage of “reporters” quoting the SeeBS numbers.

By candide

February 28, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

Does Dubya hunt?

By The Grinch

February 28, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

Midori, I bet you think your welfare check is biased…..

By finch

February 28, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

I just don’t see where CBS actually “buried” the poll methodology. It’s right there on the web site. Any PC illiterate could find it.

If they’d refused to post the methodology altogether, or fudged it, the survey critics would have a much stronger case arguing it was junk. But CBS did post it. They’re either very dumb or very smart.

BTW, I’m really impressed with Cheney’s favorable rating of 18%. Even if you factor in a big margin of error, it shows that about the only person less popular than Dick is Charles Manson.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

Upon further analysis:

ONLY 65% of Republicans APPROVE of BUSH and ONLY 41 APPROVE OF CHENEY!

During the Clinton Administration, even during IMPEACHMENT, Clinton had HIGHER APPROVAL FROM BOTH PARTIES!

That’s from q15 on page 12 of 18.

By kimberly

February 28, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

Oh, now here’s a huge surprise. Bin Laden helped his buddy Bush…. SAYS BUSH.

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

Sound the retreat alarm Bush is being outsmarted by the terrorists and creating more of them?

“Maj. Gen. Lynch also gave an update on information gleaned from al-Qaeda letters captured during an operation near Ramadi Feb. 11. The letters, written by an al Qaeda operative to his leadership, depict the terrorist organization as trying to shift focus away from popular Iraqi tribal leaders to more varied and widespread targets. The letters indicate concern that al Qaeda in Iraq’s attacks on tribal leaders are turning more citizens of Iraq against the terror group.”

I still have hope Iraqis can pull this thing off, but I don’t think all Americans are united in that hope.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

finch,

CBS did not release any of it’s methodology. That would be the rational behind the numbers surveyed, the weighting decision, and how they determined affiliation.

By Objective Observer

February 28, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

I’m impressed!!! These two hounds do hunt, and have treed a skunk (CBS).

By finch

February 28, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

RW,

Maybe we’e crossing signals, but counting the # of Dems, Repubs you surveyed, and how you weighted their responses is releasing some of your methodology.

I guess my point is if CBS were out to pull a Jason Blair on the survey, why release any #s at all? Why not just duck and lie?

I’m not defending or condemning the survey. I’d just like to know more.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

finch,

Maybe it’s an apples and oranges thing. Usually in polling terminology there is a sample (the breakdown of respondents) and methodology (how you determined the accuracy and reasoning behind the sample), but as San Fran Nan might say, “it’s all fruit.”

I’m sure the number is there so that they can bask in the glow of their honesty when challenged, meanwhile every “news” cast simply gives the 34% number.

By Objective Observer

February 28, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Can somebody tell me what’s going on here? In the last five minutes to commentaries have been posted in place of cartoons. One from our very own “Pinko Liberal”.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

You guys ever see this Don Knotts movie?

which one does it truly represent? Bush or Cheney?

By RE

February 28, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

Guys, are we really that concerned about the poll numbers. what is difference, either 1 person in 3 approves, or 2 in 5 approve. Either way, it is not very good for W

By Midori

February 28, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Can somebody tell me what’s going on here? In the last five minutes to commentaries have been posted in place of cartoons. One from our very own “Pinko Liberal�.

By Bottom Line

February 28, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this

Bush is NOT a popular President. He has been a disaster.

By Andy

February 28, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

Let’s be honest about this, If C B.S. would slant a poll to achieve the results they want to see, what else do they doctor over there? Can you really believe anything they say?

It’s a culture of deception.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

Apparently ml has decided to speak by picking out goofball comments he likes and trying to turn them into new threads. Do you think he realizes that what commentary they deserve has already been given?

By Midori

February 28, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

RE - The problem is certain people’s tactics and pretzel twisting as a way of combatting the truth.

As you’ve said, regardless, it certainly is not good news for Bush. In this universe, anyway.

Those in Bizarro World tend to disagree.

By The Grinch

February 28, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

Midori.. The problem is certain people’s tactics and pretzel twisting as a way of combatting the truth

You are a prime example of your own post

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this

RE,

I’ll make the same concession to you that I made to Midori. These numbers prove that President Bush will not be reelected.

By RE

February 28, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

Good point RW.

By finch

February 28, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

can we stop disassembling the CBS survey? Any way you look at it, or any other recent survey, President Bush ain’t about to win “American Idol”. We’re just discussing how cooked he is.

Speaking of cooked….

I’m hungry!

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this

finch,

I think that store is in Yemasee so you should be able to pop right over for some of that fine cuisine.

Why did you have to bring up the poll just when it had been dropped? Look what the New York Times got from it. Headline:

Americans Are Cautiously Open to Gas Tax Rise, Poll Shows

First line of the story:

Americans are overwhelmingly opposed to a higher federal gasoline tax…

Yes these findings were brought to you from the very same bogus poll.

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

RW, that is fuuuuuuuny. The scary thing is the media can get people to vote the way the media wants them to vote even if that means more screwed up gubment. Well, except for dummies like you and I.

By finch

February 28, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

RW,

Don’t get me started. You know how I feel about gasoline taxes. Tax the hell out of it.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

Grinch,

who let you out of Who Village?

Don’t hate me for pointing out your “leader’s” obvious b.s. and failure.

Take the first step by entering into rehab.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

These numbers prove that President Bush will not be reelected.

more than that — they present a true picture of what a failure this loser is.

on one note: he really is a uniter, isn’t he?

look at those numbers!!!

By Midori

February 28, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

LOL

I just heard on the radio.

Huge demonstrations in India in anticipation of the buffon’s visit.

I wish they would keep him.

By finch

February 28, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

Bush’s visits to India and Pakistan.

Scary.

If he can pull this off, I may actually vote for him. (a joke, okay?)

By Andy

February 28, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

Hey, all you people checking into the blog late, did you see what the pinko media was caught doing?:

C B.S. Slants Bush Poll In Favor Of Democrats

Calls into question just about anything they say, doesn’t it?

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

It’s kind of like the way put out all kinds of misinformation about the UAE ports deal and then ask people what they think.

finch,

Are you a headline writer for the NYT?

Midori,

What would you consider huge in a country with over a billion people? If they keep him Cheney gets to be President. Not bad.

By RE

February 28, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

Yes Andy, Luckily we have Rush and Hannity to give an unbiased view of the news.

In reality, this is a downward tick due to the ports deal. He will soon rebound back to the upper 30% from the mid 30% range.

By finch

February 28, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

finch,

Are you a headline writer for the NYT?

I wish, compadre, I wish….

Somebody else just brought up the CBS poll. Me? I’m parking it, until some background comes out.

By ChickenHawk Bush

February 28, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this

Lol, a force 5,000 will be used to protect Bush in India.

Bush lovers will interpret that as Bush being “wildly” popular in India. Thousands of Indians will want to shake his hand and just be close to him. Bush needs the huge security force to protect Bush from the adhoring crowd! Ya, thats it.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Failures!!! Getcha red hot failures here!!!

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

Midori, I do like that guys name, F*******!

By Midori

February 28, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this

Excellent.

The morons are catching on. Told ya he was a uniter:

A Republican senator says President Bush is stubborn and has a skull of — quote — “solid granite.”

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this

No wonder we get such misleading headlines, it’s all you people read.

Mackowiak says Burns believes the White House should have been more forthcoming, about the deal to allow a state-owned company in Dubai to control operations at six major U-S ports. But the spokesman says Burns gets along very well with his fellow Republican, and thinks Bush has done an excellent job on national security.

By Objective Observer

February 28, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this

Damn R.W., you beat me to it.

By Andy

February 28, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this

I guess if you are a pinko and you are broadcasting news, that means you are lying:

Have you noticed how, at least when a Republican is in the White House, economic news almost always seems to be bad news? When in doubt, it seems, the journalists just make stuff up. This is from a Reuters dispatch last week:

“Employers are having difficulty finding the right people to fill jobs despite high unemployment in Europe and the United States, a survey by U.S.-based staffing firm Manpower showed Tuesday.”

In fact, unemployment in the U.S. was just 4.7% in January, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, whereas rates in Western Europe routinely run twice that.

By RE

February 28, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

RW, every notice how spokesman for a politician, Dem or GOP, always seem to redefine clear statements from a politician into a watered down version. Nothing is more dangerous in politics than a consice clear answer

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

RE,

No I find that all politicians and their spokespersons regardless of party affiliation are pillars of honesty and clarity.

/sarc

(or HTMLSARC if finch is reading)

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

Sorry!

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

“True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing. And in knowing that you know nothing, that makes you the smartest of all.” - Socrates

Socrates never met Midori or any other new liberal in America, for they instantly know it all in an ever changing world.

By RE

February 28, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

Hey all, going back to a story from a few days ago, South Dakota is going to pass a law that will outlaw all abortions and send any doctor performing an abortion to prison (for 5 years, I guess it isn’t really a MURDER murder). Anyway, the law is clearly unconstitutional according to ROE V WADE. A couple things:

First, is it ok to pass a law that is known to be unconstitutional?

Second, and this applies to a lot of other laws and acts like putting the 10 commandments up in court rooms or trying to teach intelligent design. It is valid for the legistlature to approve these measures, and in general they are doing the peoples business when they are passed, no matter how you feel about it. But when you pass a law that you know is going to be challenged, shouldn’t it be required to fund the litigation associated with the law at the same time. The SD law is going to go up to the supreme court, it is designed to do so and is the right of the legistlature to challenge ROE, but it is going to be awfully expensive to get it up to the supreme court, who foots that bill, and shouldn’t the tax payers know that if this law is passed, they will be the ones getting the bill for the court fights.

By RE

February 28, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

Hey Andy

any more comments on how peaceful Bagdad is today?

By Andy

February 28, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

RE: Yes, it sure does looks like Al Qaeda is awfully busy today, trying to gin up that Iraqi (Asia) “civil war.” It won’t work though, most people are smarter than you liberals.

By AD

February 28, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

“True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing. And in knowing that you know nothing, that makes you the smartest of all.� - Socrates

Socrates never met Midori or any other new liberal in America, for they instantly know it all in an ever changing world.

Scooter you are so full of scat.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this

RE,

Its just a rumor, but I hear that some people think that Roe V Wade is unconstitutional.

But I’m glad you’re looking out for us taxpayers.

By Andy

February 28, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

Hey, I was wondering: If you pinkos are going to tag UAE for being too much of a threat to manage some of our ports because of past association with terrorists, why won’t you tag C B.S. and their fake poll for being bald faced liars when they have had past dealings with liars?

You libs are all messed up, aren’t you?

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

You can almost see RE and the left in this country salivating, like Pavlov’s Dog, when bad stuff happens in Iraq, just so they can get thier I told you so. It’s sad.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

AD, I am pretty special, ain’t I?

Unlike Bush special, as in “special ed”

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

AD, thanks pahtnah.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

I imagine you riding a scooter with one of those little propeller hats on your head.

“D’uh”……..

By MikeT

February 28, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

Andy will we be getting naked together tonight? I love our cam sessions sooooooo much.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

RE,

Sorry to sound flip, but of all the budget items that concern me, notifying taxpayers in advance that signing a bill will be expensiveis not high on my list, at least not at the state level. You could convince me otherwise at the town, city or county level.

Don’t the states get pro bono help with this stuff anyway?

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

Midori, I drool on myself and wear depends too.

By finch

February 28, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

I don’t want to even talk about how many Baghdad car bombs there were today and how many Iraqi civilians died.

I hate being right.

By RE

February 28, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

Conservative columnist George Will this morning on ABC’s This Week: STEPHANOPOULOS: What does civil war look like? WILL: This. This is a civil war

Damn liberals

By Midori

February 28, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

no one is “salivating”. Your moronic leaders were warned that this would happen. Yet you perverts led the charge.

“KILL THE RAGHEADS!!! BOMB THEM!!”

That was your battle cry and response to those warnings.

Now you have the nerve to try to turn it around after YET ANOTHER prediction has come true.

I can’t speak for others, but I was sick in my stomach all during “shock and awe” up until today.

Every thing your side predicted was just a crock. None of your side’s predictions came to fuition - starting with WMD to your ridiculous “freeing the Iraqis” crap.

Eat it. Deal with it.

But don’t you DARE try to deflect it and impose it on others.

By Midori

February 28, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

Scooter, a hint. If you take your finger out of your nose, you can free up a hand to use a Kleenex to wipe away that drool.

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

finch, OK tell us how cooperative Saddam was in disclosing his WMD’s and how the left new he was no threat, even though the inspectors had been ejected for the five years prior to Bush’s invasion.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

RE,

How is that SD law going to be drawn out and expensive?

This is going to be challenged and either upheld or struck down with little more than an hour of oral argument in front of the 8th district and the losing side will appeal to the Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court agrees to hear the case you will have another hour of oral argument.

By RE

February 28, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

BD,

I really do not know who pays for the legal bills when this comes up. And I am actually probably on your side when it comes to abortion, although I believe it should be legal, I do not see anywhere in the constitution where it is protected. They overstepped when ROE V Wade was decided, but that does not diminish the fact that it is considered precedent and thus constitutional.

I think it is the responsible thing that if you are going to pass a law you know to be unconstitutional, you should pass the budgetary funds needed to defend it. None of those legistlators will be surprised that this law is challenged, in fact they are counting on it. Now, who gets stuck with the bill?

I agree this is more pertinent in the local county and city matters than on the state level. I think it should be required that if a law making body passes legistlation they know will be challenged, they need to provide the funding as well. Next time a couple city council members on a slow tuesday evening decide that they are going to put up the 10 commandments in all public schools, they should be responsible for providing funding as well, and if it is important enough to the city that they do not mind an extra $100 per year on thier real estate taxes, then go forward, but don’t act shocked when these laws are challenged.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

finch,

We’ve had our share of civil disturbances

If W had been in office during any of these events, would you have been gloating?

By DavidU

February 28, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this

Most American troops in Iraq believe that the US should withdraw within the next year, according to the first poll of US military personnel in Iraq…..Seventy-two per cent of troops said the US should withdraw within 12 months; 29 per cent said they should pull out immediately……John Zogby, the president of Zogby International, said US commanders in Iraq unofficially gave their approval for the poll of 944 respondents to take place. The poll was conducted before the escalation in violence that followed last week’s bombing of the Golden Mosque.

Ninety-three per cent of US troops polled said the removal of weapons of mass destruction was not the main US mission in Iraq. Instead, 68 per cent said the mission was actually the removal of Saddam Hussein, the former Iraqi president.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Since you have blanket empathy for the “ragheads” (your term not mine) who died in Iraq, no matter what side they were fighting for, surely you must be in favor of the UAE ports deal.

Or is your sole criteria that “Ragheads” are disposable, depending on whether or not they make Bush look good or bad?

By RE

February 28, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

Lets see RW, the court just decided a case from NOW about protection at abortion clinics (NOW lost). The case was filed in….1986

Yeah, 20 years in a legal dispute I am sure it was only a few hundred bucks for the bill

Dunce

By Andy

February 28, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Look at all these ghoul pinkos in here gloating over all the people Al Qaeda killed in Iraq in their futile attempt to start a civil war. Does it get any more bizarre than that?

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

RE,

The case that was just decided was a case that grew out of the decision in the NOW case. This wasn’t 20 years of non stop litigation. The process may be slow, but you don’t sit around in a courtroom throughout the appeals process and the SD case you are talking about is fairly simple. It’s just a case of constitutionality.

The case you are using is one that tries to restrict an activity by attempting to place it under the scope of different legislation. That makes it a much more drawn out process and wasn’t triggered by any new law that a State passed.

The State is represented by their own Attorney Generals office, anyway.

By RE

February 28, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this

Trying to help you get your facts straight Andy:

By Andy

February 27, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this

Violence Subsides Across Iraq- A mortar attack kills 10, but overall the fighting lets up. Arrests are made in mosque bombing.

Authorities have arrested 10 people in connection with the bombing of Samarra’s Golden Mosque, national security advisor Mowaffak Rubaie said in an interview with CNN. Rubaie, who accused followers of Jordanian-born militant Abu Musab Zarqawi of carrying out the attack, said four of the suspects were guards at the shrine. Six were outsiders who recently moved into rented flats in Samarra.

HA-HA, there never was a “civil war.� It was a reaction to an Al Qaeda provocation. Back to the Bush plan: Victory.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

RE,

Actually, you don’t know what my position on abortion is, but I will say that Roe V Wade was an absolutely ludicrous way to decide the matter, and the badly thought out decision has had ramifications well beyond the ruling itself.

RW makes excellent, INTELLIGENT points, and the fact that the Attorney Generals handle state cases is germane to my initial “who cares about the cost to taxpayers” response. And I would wager that one Brian Nichols case costs the state far more than one legislative appeal.

But why is it that every time you try to engage one of us in discussion and we reply civily, you end up trashing us in the most uncivil manner.

It’s not worth the effort.

By RE

February 28, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

So if the states AG handles the case, all cost is expensed to the state, correct?

Do you really think that this is going to be a clear cut case. They already know it is unconstitutional while they are passing it. Every possible justification will be used to approve the SD law, and ultimately overturn Roe. Any lawyers out there want to make a guess on the legal expense? This is the culmination of a 40 year long arguement and you think it is going to be settled in 2 hours?

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 06:16 PM | Link to this

Andy,

RE seems to be trying to make a point but I don’t get it. Do you?

By RE

February 28, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this

Intelligent points…hmmm. You mean the part where he figures the whole case will be in court about 2 hours.

Yeah, he is the next Dershowitz

By Andy

February 28, 2006 06:22 PM | Link to this

Here’s as deep and intelligent as it gets for the left:

By N-GA February 28, 2006 05:51 PM

Ya’ll shouldn’t pick on Andy like that. He’s really a Bed Wetter…..because he’s a homo. Poor thing wakes up in the middle of a yellow puddle every morning. He really doesn’t think it’s because he’s a homo. He says it’s because he has nightmares about terrorists coming to get him.

How stunningly insightful.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

RE,

My two hours is obviously not the sum total of the appeal. It’s a counter balance to your extreme example that cost should dictate our laws.

Why are you so bitter today? You asked a question I offered an opinion and you immediately went to name calling. Now you act like someone ran over your dog.

Maybe South Dakota has decided that it’s about damn time somebody stood up for States rights, but my point still stands. This will quickly move to the Federal appeals level and neither side will be able to draw it out any further than the appeals courts let them.

By Daniel

February 28, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

Midori and RE: Thanks for your posts. None of us will soon forget the hysterical run up to this war. In particular, the Krauthammer rants linger in my memory. America is a nation betrayed. By the way, pick up the Bruce Bartlett book: Impostor. A true conservative looks at our government. It may mark the beginning of change.

By Andy

February 28, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

Danish: 20 to 1 says RE thinks he blew me out of the water. Call this my humanitarian, charitable works for the day, I’m helping the underprivileged to return to normal societal living.

By RE

February 28, 2006 06:32 PM | Link to this

The state has every right to challenge the law. I am almost certain that whatever legal conclusion arises from this, about half the country will be unhappy with it. The point is that there should be some responsibility when it comes to laws being passed that are going to be challenged. The cost should not be deffered back on the tax payers of the state because some legistlators are on a crusade.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

You know, I watch Fword network’s last 15 minutes quite faithfully, and I don’t believe that I have EVER seen the thoughtfull and brilliant Charles Krauthammer “rant”.

Indeed he is a great man and a great “conservative thinker”. Most remarkable is the unerring grace that he brings to the each and every discussion in which he participates.

In contrast we have Daniel and team Midori. Enough said.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 06:51 PM | Link to this

RE,

Correct me if I’m wrong or just revert to name calling if you prefer, but the South Dakota State legislature is a duly elected body that is charged with writing the laws that will govern their constituents. When this body passes a new law and the Governor signs this law, it seems to me that makes it something more than “some legislators on a crusade.”

I’ll ask again, why are you so bitter today?

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

• I am almost certain that whatever legal conclusion arises from this, about half the country will be unhappy with it*

RE,

Sigh. That’s why it should be left to the states.

You know I think that the reason that some of you have difficulty grasping these very simple concepts is because you view everything through an pseudo-elitist prism and are so convinced of your own superiority, that you want to give every issue the imprimatur of federal law.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 07:05 PM | Link to this

The scribblers latest has arrived, it’s kind of like that “beer on the wall” song.

By Daniel

February 28, 2006 07:07 PM | Link to this

RE: You make Bartlett’s point in the book: Impostor, mentioned above. Bartlett talks about a “Received Intelligence” in the White House. Thinking isn’t something that goes on. Rather, there is an Imperial Aura about that attracts sychophants and a**kissers. This too, will pass.

By RE

February 28, 2006 07:11 PM | Link to this

Actually BD I am all for states rights. Most issues should be left up to the states, congress overreaches when it comes to the idea of interstate commerce. They overstepped on Roe when they decided it, but now that it is decided, it is law. Having a state try to overturn a federal ruling is within that states right, I have no problem with any part of this action other than the responsibility of the legistlators to fund the legal case.

As to my views, I think the constitution should be read narrowly and the feds should not intrude except where specifically mandated by the constitution. This includes Abortion, which should be a states rights issue, but also euthanasia, drug laws, and educational standards which are not within the powers of the federal govt. So do you trust the states to decide if pot is legal, or if an terminal cancer patient is allowed to die, or do you like the feds stepping in there?

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Just for fun could you tell me how RE saying a State should not pass a law that they might have to pay to defend, in any way prove your or Bartlett’s point about the Bush White House?

By Scooter

February 28, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

Yeah, I’ve been noticing how senators talk about nationwide listening and how that influences their local legislation. I always think How’s that? The left gripes about political power and corruption but they go along with centralizing the power over the people in DC.

By finch

February 28, 2006 07:15 PM | Link to this

Re: abortion

It’s a state’s rights issue.

By Daniel

February 28, 2006 07:19 PM | Link to this

I read BD’s post of 5:53pm below the entry RE and mistakenly concluded the “pseudo elitist prism…convinced of their own superiority” was from RE. Thanks for paying attention.

By RW-(the original)

February 28, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

You’re welcome. Thanks for the civil response, those have been rare lately.

RE,

My answer to those questions you asked Buy Danish is yes. The States should have control there as well, although if they legalize pot they would have to grow their own so as not to infringe on other States or on Interstate commerce laws.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 07:28 PM | Link to this

RE,

Then why do you care what South Dakota does with its legislature?

Daniel,

It’s funny, but when I think of someone with an “Imperial Aura” I think of Hillary Rodham Clinton, John Kerry and Al Gore, John Dean and the other vain representatives of the liberal elite.

The LAST person that comes to mind to me is W. He could not be freer of ego or pretense.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this

Let’s face it Daniel,

The psuedo-elites think that they know what is best for everyone else (inspired by Marx), and are determined to codify their control over the rest of us - you know those people you look down on as trailer park trash.

By RE

February 28, 2006 07:33 PM | Link to this

What have you been missing here BD. Let me say it again, if a legislture is going to pass a law they know to be unconstitutional, they should also have to pass the funding required to defend it at the same time. It is called responsibility for your own actions. Nothing to do with the validity of the challenge or the morality of abortion.

Responsibility. Are you for it or against it?

By RE

February 28, 2006 07:38 PM | Link to this

You brought up Marx, reminded me of this; Ideology is the antithesis of conservatism, Russell Kirk wrote. The tragedy of George W. Bush may be that he was converted by courtiers to the ideologies that are failing as visibly now as the discredited ideologies of yesterday: Wilsonianism and Marxism.

Damn liberal pinko elitist…oh wait, Pat Buchannan

By Daniel

February 28, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

RE, BD: It is in Bartlett’s book. He was there. We, small fry, don’t really know very much. Yes, those dems. are of the “prep school” crowd. I’m done for the evening. “After all, tomorrow is another day”.

By Buy Danish

February 28, 2006 08:25 PM | Link to this

RE -

I don’t care!

You are trying to micromanage a states legislature by requiring a commission to estimate the cost of theoretical litigation, in advance.

By finch

February 28, 2006 11:33 PM | Link to this

Scooter 5:24pm - finch, OK tell us how cooperative Saddam was in disclosing his WMD’s and how the left new he was no threat, even though the inspectors had been ejected for the five years prior to Bush’s invasion.

Irrelevant. Iraq violated treaties with the UN, but it didn’t violate any with the US. Because there weren’t any. The UN did not want the US to enforce UN treaties. Therefore, the US invasion of Iraq was groundless aggression.

Case closed.

Buy Danish 5:31pm - finch, if W had been in office during any of these events, would you have been gloating?

I never gloat over civil disturbances. I’m allergic to blood.

By Emsaly

March 1, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this

Terrific…. Don Knotts always put a smile on my face, and this is a tribute to his life that even post mortem Don Knotts can make me laugh. Thanks Mike! You are always so on target.

By Buy Danish

March 1, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

Since these entries are rapidly closing down, I am left to wonder if CAIR didn’t file some sort of protest against ML for showing their “prophet” driving a car with a W sticker on it?