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By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 07:45 PM | Link to this

Hey ml has a new method of satisfying the moonbat calls for apologies. Just draw a cartoon with any kook theory and draw an apology. He did get the last one right, that’s the person Cheney should have and did apologize to.

By Scooter

February 15, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

Mike, it is amazing how you act like Saddam was very cooperative with UN inspectors. Or, how you act like the inspectors were in the country prior to Bush talking tough to teh UN. Mike L. does your selective memory help you in trusting the corrupt UN to enforce a simple disarmerment agreement in the thirteenth year. Truly amazing the liberals are with this Iraq thing.

By Andy

February 15, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this

Hey, what about all the Bushies offended by this new cartoon?

By Midori

February 15, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this

Mike,

how intuitive.

They truly are sorry.

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 08:45 PM | Link to this

Hey Andy are you here?

By Andy

February 15, 2006 08:47 PM | Link to this

Hello, hello, hello, is there anybody in there, is there anyone home?

Lookin for me postman?

By Andy

February 15, 2006 08:48 PM | Link to this

Check this out, everybody, postman is going to offer some liberal “wisdom” for us.

By kimberly

February 15, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this

Andy, for someone who devotes so much of his time to honing the skill of artful debate, you sure don’t have much in the way of game. Your continual name-calling and quoting the brilliant bits from O’Reilly and Hannity are understandable to anyone who reads your rants; however, the continual MISQUOTING of your fellow bloggers is both tiresome and lame. Kimberly never said our soldiers gleefully kill innocent women and children. That you feel compelled to twist the observations of others into horrific lies clearly demonstrates that you have nothing meaningful of your own to add to a conversation, and that you have NO integrity. NONE. Your desire to SHINE as the STAR of this little blog has driven you to new lows. That you malign me by LYING about what I said about our soldiers and military, which include my father and people I care about, you are demonstrating a complete absence of the “patriotism” you claim to defend. So let me set you straight, little man: Kimberly has nothing but respect for the men and women who put their lives on the line for us. Kimberly has nothing but contempt for little weasels who twist the truth for their own ego, enjoyment, or profit. Do yourself a favor little man, and find someone else to lie about.

By DavidU

February 15, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this

Meant to post it here;

RW - besides NATO would have to invoke NATO article 5, in order for us to be involved.

For article 5 to be invoked (even NATO has limitations) Article 6 of the North Atlantic Treaty has to be fulfilled. Article 6: “For the purpose of Article 5, an armed attack on one or more of the Parties is deemed to include an armed attack:

on the territory of any of the Parties in Europe or North America, on the Algerian Departments of France (2), on the territory of or on the Islands under the jurisdiction of any of the Parties in the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer;

on the forces, vessels, or aircraft of any of the Parties, when in or over these territories or any other area in Europe in which occupation forces of any of the Parties were stationed on the date when the Treaty entered into force or the Mediterranean Sea or the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer. “

That’s why NATO did not get involved during the Falkland’s war (in behalf of Britain) or during the US embassy bombing in Kenya (in behalf of the US). So the Cartoon war Ms. Coulter wants to start on behalf of Denmark under the premise of standing behind our NATO allies is just a pipe dream.

By Andy

February 15, 2006 08:53 PM | Link to this

kimberly: You did so.

If you are going to accuse someone of lying at least don’t lie about them too. I don’t listen to Hannity or “Conservative” O’Reilly. I’m strictly a Limbaugh man. And he quotes me, sweetheart.

By Andy

February 15, 2006 08:58 PM | Link to this

re·spect- tr.v. re·spect·ed, re·spect·ing, re·spects- Willingness to show consideration or appreciation.

By kimberly

February 15, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

Andy, that’s horrible. Certainly not decent human beings. Of course, what kind of human beings would suggest that bombing a city filled with innocent men, women and children is okay, ‘cause they look sorta like some other people of a different nationality that flew some planes into America? I mean, “collateral damage�? what IS that?

We report, you decide.

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 08:58 PM | Link to this

O’Reilly’s not conservative, he’s fair and balanced and did Limbaugh ever get help for that little pill-addiction problem? He’s a laugh riot, too. If I had that much crap coming out my mouth all day I’d need pills to get through the day, too.

By Andy

February 15, 2006 09:02 PM | Link to this

Oh, postman is a liberal who is for government intrusion into the private lives of people. Gosh, I didn’t know the other pinkos stood for invasion of individual privacy.

And a liberal that is against drug use too. You are quite unique, postman. I’ll bet you think the other pinkos don’t do drugs, don’t you.

By DavidU

February 15, 2006 09:04 PM | Link to this

You know its funny when Gates makes fun of you.

When Bill Gates appeared at a computer security conference in San Jose, Calif., this week, he greeted his audience with a quip. “I’m really glad to be here,�? said the Microsoft Corp. chairman. “My other invitation was to go quail hunting with Dick Cheney.�?

By buff

February 15, 2006 09:11 PM | Link to this

The other day I was taking some lib female profs to lunch. We went in my gas guzzling twin cab pick em up truck; Rush was on

One of libs said “Oh my gosh, you listen to HIM?”

I confirmed, kept Rush on and they heard him for about 20 minutes. Two of the three who said they had never liked him before thought he was entertaining, especially when he was making fun of Senator Swimmer

One of them hated him

Here is what is quite striking: none of them had ever listened to MajaRushy for over a few minutes and not for years

I went in one of their offices Monday and she had Rush on the radio

So many leftists hammer him, but NEVER listen to him

By Buy Danish

February 15, 2006 09:15 PM | Link to this

Postman - I find it very interesting that 21st century “liberals” are so anti-drugs - it didn’t used to be that way. I guess its all the yoga you do that keeps you so C-A-L-M.

Kimberly - Andy nailed you pussycat. You can spin it, but you can’t deny it.

By Buy Danish

February 15, 2006 09:17 PM | Link to this

buff - yep, the left has done an amazing job of demonizing Rush. Good job in getting some fresh converts!

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 09:19 PM | Link to this

You mean like the invasion of privacy that conservatives often champion like wiretapping everybody’s phones to make sure their not dissenting from that post-9/11 big government view that Rove, Cheney and the boys think everybody should have while cowering in their closets counting on that smart-as-a-whip Dubya to protect them from attacks on their duct-tape sealed homes. Or what about W. and the boys making all of the internet providers hand over personal computer records to make sure that nobody is on the net looking at moveon.org and stepping out of the brainwashing line of the GOP talking points between viewing non-Christian-like images, now that couldn’t possibly be an invasion of privacy could it?

By Gene

February 15, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this

Another good one, ml. And oh so true.

The Nazicans can’t stand…truth. They’ll raise hell from their roach nests over this toon.

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 09:26 PM | Link to this

Take it from Rush, he’s the most pro-drug conservative there is from what I have heard, why he even makes sure that the cleaning service only send him maids who can moonlight as “alternative pharmacists” while they clean his mansions.

By finch

February 15, 2006 09:27 PM | Link to this

kimberly, it appears you’ve been misquoted.

February 15, 2006 05:40PM “I’m sorry, but I’m just quoting you, kimberly. You are saying that our soldiers are so morally degenerate that they would indiscriminately kill women and children if they were “ordered.�? That our officers would give those “orders�? just for their excitement, for their murderous thrills.”

You see, kimberly, I know for a fact you never used the words morally degenerate, murderous thrills, or excitement in any of your posts about the US military in Iraq.

Your portrayal of a “just following orders” military is disturbing, but nowhere that I have seen have you suggested that Americans take pleasure out of civilian deaths in Iraq.

It says volumes about the misquoter, doesn’t it?

By kimberly

February 15, 2006 09:29 PM | Link to this

Bite me Sweetroll. Andy quoted me as saying SOLDIERS gleefully kill innocent women and children. That’s not what I said. I refer to the people who DECIDE to invade a country that never attacked us and blitz a city full of people. I refer to the people (like YOU I presume) to whom the lives of the people in those cities don’t MATTER. That’s not the same as saying the soldiers did it, or did it gleefully. Don’t your knees hurt from clucking at Andy’s feet all day?

Let me clarify further, I am not against soldiers, I am against WAR except as a last resort. You see, because instead of worshipping at the feet of egotistical LIARS, I follow a well-known deity that some refer to as “The Prince of PEACE.” He, the Prince of Peace, as it is well documented for those who believe, values the lives of the people in the cities being bombed, not just the lives of the Texans being shot by their hunting buddies, which goes back to Andy’s original dismay at how callously some people feel about the lives of other human beings. DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?

So NO Sweetroll, I didn’t get “nailed” by your shining guru. (Why would I say something only to deny it?) Now please return to whatever disgusting thing you two were doing together, and I’ll suggest again that your little gang of liar-bullies find some other way to make your points, if you actually have any, besides LYING about your fellow bloggers. Thanks sugar lips. That is sweetroll glaze on your chin, right?

By buff

February 15, 2006 09:30 PM | Link to this

I do not particularly care about Rush’s drug use/abuse, etc. He is entertaining

How com leftists want “compassion” only when it is a bed-wetting, booger-eating actor, pol or “victim?”

By kimberly

February 15, 2006 09:32 PM | Link to this

Thanks finch! If you have to misquote someone you’re debating in order to make a point, you might wanna rethink the “point,” don’t you think? Seems logical.

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this

I wouldn’t be surprised if Cheney had been drinking and shot his “buddy” in a calculated drunken rage after he said something about why Haliburton has all of the contracts in Iraq.

By finch

February 15, 2006 09:38 PM | Link to this

It’s fair to say that most people who know about Rush Limbaugh realize he’s an entertainer. Kind of like Howard Stern.

They’re both masters of hyperbole, shaders of truth, and relentlessly quotable.

The “liberals” who criticize Rush for his use of hard drugs do so because he is a g-ddam hypocrite. He’s called for the imprisonment of even casual drug users.

He should walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 09:41 PM | Link to this

No Kimberly, I don’t that’s sweetroll glaze on his chin, I think they were re-enacting a famous graphic scene from “Brokeback Mountain”. I think he needs some kneepads, but not for clucking at feet.

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 09:42 PM | Link to this

finch,

This is where Andy quoted Kimberly what you linked to is Andy’s interpretation. What does that say about you?

So as confusing as it was to figure out what Kimberly may or may not have meant is up for grabs, but she wasn’t misquoted.

Not a match! The board goes back.

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 09:45 PM | Link to this

Rush walks the walk, alright. He walks right to the corner drugstore, or better yet he has his maid bring it to him. I wonder if he’s still for those 20-year-plus sentences for marijuana users.

By buff

February 15, 2006 10:12 PM | Link to this

P

I have listened to Rush for yeaes and I have never heard him suggest 20 years for dopers. When was that?

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 10:25 PM | Link to this

buff,

You may have noticed “THE POSTMAN” doesn’t often deliver the truth.

By buff

February 15, 2006 10:35 PM | Link to this

RW

yuck, yuck, maybe “it” really is a government employee

Oxy is potent, though. I took it for ten days one time, whoo wee

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 10:42 PM | Link to this

But “THE POSTMAN” upsets the neo-cons… and that makes the THE POSTMAN very happy.

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 10:45 PM | Link to this

POSTMAN,

So far I haven’t really seen you upsetting anybody, even with your manifestos on the dead thread, you’re good for a laugh though. Keep delivering!

By Buy Danish

February 15, 2006 10:47 PM | Link to this

Kimberly- You said, * “Of course, what kind of human beings would suggest that bombing a city filled with innocent men, women and children is okay, ‘cause they look sorta like some other people of a different nationality that flew some planes into America? I mean, “collateral damage�? what IS that?*

I took that to mean that we hideous “human beings” in the form of Americans conducted a racist attack which intentionally targeted innocent women and children in retaliation for their attack on us.

Andy took it as disparaging our military.

You have finally begun to explain yourself, but you are now adding a lot of words that were not in the original statement. Now you can continue to accuse us of lying, or you can go back and read what you wrote and try to understand why you got the reaction you did.

What bothers me is that you are so quick to imply that we are bloodthirsty and ruthless and evil because we are fighting a war in the first place. You are impugning our President’s motives and our country’s motives, not based on any particular facts, but because you have a particular theory about the necessity of war that has a much higher bar than our theory. It has to do with “imminent threats” and “connecting dots” and making a choice whether to be a sitting duck and let more American innocents die, or take premptive measures.

NOBODY HAD TO DIE IN IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN. THERE WAS NO NEED FOR ANY COLLATERAL DAMAGE. Bin Laden and Hussein both brought this destruction on their own people/neighbors. We did not ask for this war. Stop implying that we do it for sport, and with racist motives just to keep facist Republicans in office and maybe a reasonable discussion might ensue.

Postmaster, you bore the hell out of me, but I do want to point out that you have my sex confused. And, your homophobic and anti-drug jokes are very meanspirited for a tolerant progressive. Where’s all that compassion we keep hearing about?

By finch

February 15, 2006 10:49 PM | Link to this

RW,

Thanks for the link, from which we get kimberly’s quote:

“Of course, what kind of human beings would suggest that bombing a city filled with innocent men, women and children is okay.”

Here, kimberly’s condemning military tactics that accept excessive “collateral damage”.

But the warped version from your evil twin twists her words grotesquely:

February 15, 2006 05:40PM I’m sorry, but I’m just quoting you, kimberly. You are saying that… our officers would give those “orders�? just for their excitement, for their murderous thrills.�?”

She didn’t say that.

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 10:53 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

You could add that I took Kimberly’s original post to mean that if someone advocated what she wrote that it would be despicable and agreed with her.

It’s only in the many, many subsequent posts that she has sort of defined what she meant.

She also claims to be a professional writer, it must be mysteries. Bad ones at that.

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 10:55 PM | Link to this

Well I’m calling it a night because before I deliver through rain, shine, sleet and snow I gotta first go and make the donuts. I’ll comeback and trade political barbs and insults with you on another day. So good evening and good night and if your going to send it, send it postal.

Remember, THE POSTMAN ALWAYS RINGS TWICE….

By Buy Danish

February 15, 2006 10:58 PM | Link to this

RW - LOL. Maybe they’re mysteries of the deep I’m just not deep enough to get her drift.

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 10:58 PM | Link to this

finch,

I’m sorry, but you are once again wrong. Even if Andy distorted the mysterious meaning of the original post you are taking his “I’m just quoting you” and applying it to the words that follow when it applies to the preceding post that I linked to.

Not a match! The board goes back

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 11:01 PM | Link to this

POSTMAN,

Was the donut addition to your duties what accounted for the latest price increase?

By Buy Danish

February 15, 2006 11:03 PM | Link to this

Postman’s going to “make the donuts”. Nothing like an inarticulate baker to put me to sleep. good night.

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 11:04 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish:
So what you’re saying is that right-wing conservatives are supposed to have the market cornered on homophobia and hypocratic meanspiritedness? I’m glad that we can all agree on something. Who said that live in a politically polarizing climate?

By Martin M

February 15, 2006 11:04 PM | Link to this

Why are these comments here?

I am amazed that AJC would think that opening up a slot beneath the Luckovich’s cartoons for people who repeatedly post rw talking points is actually some kind of good strategy.

These right wingers obviously don’t even have jobs except to post the words and strategies that KR makes up into comment sections, and other kinds of forums.

Why open up real newsmedia space for them?

What idiot convinced the editors at AJC this would lead to increased readership?

Everyday RW and his gang come in and say it’s a terrible cartoon, and then start their right wing propaganda that people hate having to read, over and over again.

It’s like Starbucks suddenly starting to sell their coffee in cups that say This coffee tastes like crap. And then showing pictures of various dog droppings on the receptacles.

You are destroying your product and Mike Luckovich is too good of a cartoonist for me to see being trashed without comment.

I’ve got a job and a blog. I don’t have the time to hang out here. I wouldn’t if I could. The right wingers here have the most pathetic personalities I’ve ever encountered.

So ML take my advice. Drop these losers.

Close the comments.

You can do better without them.

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 11:04 PM | Link to this

Goodnight!

By Buy Danish

February 15, 2006 11:06 PM | Link to this

Touche’ RW - you said it so much better than I. Poor guy works day and night I guess - no wonder he’s grumpy.

By Dusty

February 15, 2006 11:08 PM | Link to this

Is Luckovich sick or something? He is the one who ought to be saying Sorry for putting out such a sorry cartoon.

Is it also the “privilege” of a political cartoonist to picture pure lies? There is really something wrong with somebody who will demean his country for money. That is what he is doing. Don’t bother to say he isn’t. Maybe he is fishing for a bonus from Al-jazerra.

By DavidU

February 15, 2006 11:12 PM | Link to this

You guys like to ignore history. All you guys know that Rush said to be tough on drug users and punish them with more jail time not rehab and then when it happened to him getting caught suddenly everyone forgot what he said. While he goes to rehab for his drug problem.

By Buy Danish

February 15, 2006 11:14 PM | Link to this

Donut boy: Before I nod off, I will respond one final time. No, what I’m saying is that I find it very interesting that all you so-called tolerant libs constantly make anti-gay jokes and anti-drinking jokes and anti-drug jokes. Actually, they’re not really “jokes”, they’re more like the lousy flatulence of a demented 6th grader. I don’t make those jokes, you do - the cough cough “enlightened” liberal. So you’re mean and boring. zzzzzzzzzzzz.

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 11:14 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish: No wonder I got your sex confused, your representing Denmark. I thought a movie like “Brokeback Mountain” would be really popular, almost iconic, in a country like Denmark.

And who said that I was a tolerant pacifist progressive that sits around campfires singing Kumbaya. I just have a strong dislike for neo-cons and where they are trying to lead this country: over the edge of a cliff to a Mexican standard-of-living.

By buff

February 15, 2006 11:15 PM | Link to this

Kimberly, there are some pretty witty, hell, even intelligent, such as Midori, leftists who contribute to this blog; you are not one of them

Your war statements are ignorant and/or stupid statements

Our military could have vanquished both our current WARS with little, or no, loss of American life (i.e. Clinton’s Bosnian bombing, how many innocents died?); we have the air and missile capability. We put “boots on he ground” to save civilian life

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 11:17 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

You’re going to upset “Martin M” with talk like that and he has a job and a blog, so it wouldn’t be nice to upset him.

Besides he says I have a gang and if I push it I could claim that he said I have my very own talking points.

I bet that is one great blog, I wish he would have pimped it while he was here.

Buy Danish,

I thought you said you were going to bed. I might have to take back my “Goodnight” if this keeps up.

By buff

February 15, 2006 11:22 PM | Link to this

I I think the Postman is candide. Schizophrenia????

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 11:26 PM | Link to this

DavidU: You know how these damn neo-cons are, “Well if the almighty, all-knowing Rush Limbaugh has his Oxycontin and Dubya had his lines of Cocaine, then it must be okay for me spring for weekends of hookers and coke”. Since one of their own got caught now they all for drug-rehab and just to think, these same hypocrits got their panties all in a bunch when Clinton admitted to smoking some weed.

I guess that makes the official GOP party-line: Hookers, Coke and Rehab for all the filthy rich who qualify for permanent tax cuts.

By buff

February 15, 2006 11:26 PM | Link to this

Adios

A little Mex lingo

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this

buff,

THE POSTMAN doesn’t seem anything like candide. I’m sure he/she’s been here as another name, but I wouldn’t go with that one.

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 11:32 PM | Link to this

And that’s really something that our poor little Buy Danish gets offended about a “Brokeback Mountain” remark when Bush and Cheney are in bed and so deep under the covers with big business and the oil companies that might as damn well be married…and just to think that Bush says he’s against gay marriage. Guess that’s the “Log Cabin” part of your ideology speaking, huh?

By buff

February 15, 2006 11:33 PM | Link to this

RW

It is her illiterate side, no, wait, maybe that is Kim-burly

By buff

February 15, 2006 11:35 PM | Link to this

RW

Last time I will ask: what is that link for the iespeller?

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 11:38 PM | Link to this

What’s wrong boys? You can dish it, but you can’t take it? You right-wing bullies probably thought that you were picking with some poor, little, defenseless liberal tree-hugger didn’t you? Don’t like being beatdown with your own game of Karl Rove-style hardball?

By finch

February 15, 2006 11:39 PM | Link to this

Ah well, RW… I still think your evil twin extrapolated on kimberly’s words a tad too much. But as usual, IMO. And how about that Martin M?? Like you said, the least he could have done was pimp his blog while he was here. It would have been fun to, errrr, visit it.

He must not have visited here for long, or he would have realized this warm and fuzzy place is certainly not the exclusive haunt of (let me know if I’ve got this straight) “jobless right wingers”. Hmmph!

Danish, I’m relieved to know that I must not be a “lib”, since I don’t think I’ve ever made an anti-gay, anti-drug or anti-booze joke here. At least not one with the flatulence of a demented 6th grader.

(Great line!)

By Dusty

February 15, 2006 11:39 PM | Link to this

Oh, good, let’s upset Martin M. again. Gather your gang together, RW. Do you have tatoos and a logo? Link me to your blog again so I can see the grafitti.

No, buff. I don’t think the Postman is Candide. He didn’t blast off about religion.

But he mentioned something about sitting around a campfire singing kumbaya. That sounds kinda familiar. He’s not new here.

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 11:40 PM | Link to this

Cliff,

You are hardly playing hardball.

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 11:44 PM | Link to this

Some of you hypocritical fukers that are crying the loudest about banning gay marriage are probably the biggest “Brokeback Mountain/Log Cabin” types that their probably is. It’s kind of strange how right-wingers are so obsessed with gays when half of you f*kers are probably do a lot more pitching and catching than you’d like to admit.

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 11:45 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Don’t forget to check in for your “RW talking points”, the gang would be disappointed if you’re not in lockstep.

And for all you libs out there that might otherwise be scared to go into gang headquarters, I am currently featuring a gateway to all the SI swimsuit photos!

By buff

February 15, 2006 11:46 PM | Link to this

P

I could give a crap less about f* marriage

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 11:48 PM | Link to this

Cliff,

That was cute, is there any meaning to the odd formatting……ARRRHHHHHH as I’m typing this I just saw an e-mail from Crazy Howie come in. I’ll report back.

By DavidU

February 15, 2006 11:49 PM | Link to this

Fed Chair Ben Bernanke did well today in the House, he didn’t go crazy with the economics lingo like Greenspan used to but non the less did well. Tomorrow he meets the Senate, after that he will probably raise interest rates later in the month. Joy (sarcasm)

By THE POSTMAN

February 15, 2006 11:49 PM | Link to this

RW: You know, sometimes I do just wanna go where everybody knows my name.

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 11:53 PM | Link to this

Well Governor Crazy Howie M.D. claims this is the annual report for the DNC, strange numbers for an annual report. I bet the SEC wouldn’t let me get away with that.

By RW-(the original)

February 15, 2006 11:55 PM | Link to this

THE POSTMAN,

Is that better?

By DavidU

February 16, 2006 12:00 AM | Link to this

RW - I don’t get it? It’s not supposed to be a financial report, its more of a “look what we been doing” kind of report.

By Dusty

February 16, 2006 12:03 AM | Link to this

buff,

You are right. It’s schizophrenia.

RW

Is Crazy Howie THE POSTMAN? No, Crazy is not THAT crazy.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 12:10 AM | Link to this

DavidU,

The link in the e-mail said http://www.democrats.org/annualreport, when you open it they have their hand out.

now that’s funny right there

Sometimes it would be good if you didn’t take everything so seriously, especially from me. I can be caustically sarcastic (I would have said snarky, but Buy Danish gave that one to CAIR today).

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 12:13 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Crazy Howie runs the Democrat Party, Cliff can’t run a donut shop without moonlighting as a letter carrier.

By Dusty

February 16, 2006 12:26 AM | Link to this

RW,

I know who Crazy Howie is but who is Cliff? And Maureen Dowd is Timothy who? And who’s on first base????

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 12:32 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

what’s on second!! Cliff is easier to type the THE POSTMAN and MoDo is a Russian transvestite that writes for Pravda and the New York Times.

By Dusty

February 16, 2006 12:45 AM | Link to this

Well, RW, that clears that up hmmmmm.

Is MoDo a friend of Molly Ivins?

Oh, well, past my bedtime. G’nite.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 12:50 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

MoDo probably looks down her nose at Molly, except when lying about the Bush administration.

Goodnight!

By Andy

February 16, 2006 04:56 AM | Link to this

It’s like Starbucks suddenly starting to sell their coffee in cups that say This coffee tastes like crap. And then showing pictures of various dog droppings on the receptacles.

Martim M may want to close his kook bubble up a little tighter, keeping those evil right wing thoughts from his precious pinko ears, but he does have some good ideas ^^^^. I suggest a caption on the bottom, “This cartoon has been run a thousand times before, in different format, but it is still lame. The artist only has one thought.”

So oddball gay finch has come in on the side who thinks our troops in the field are cold blooded indiscriminate killers of women and children. That’s great, any of you other pinkos want to side up with kimberly and gay finch?

By Andy

February 16, 2006 04:58 AM | Link to this

Well, well, well, you just can’t tell, well, well, well, my Michelle!

Funny thing is, I can’t recall the mainstream media melting down over the 30-hour delay — presided over by Hillary Clinton, according to internal records — in releasing the late White House counsel Vincent Foster’s suicide note to authorities and her own husband. Can you?

By spank

February 16, 2006 05:34 AM | Link to this

You right wing trolls that hang here need to get a life, there’s a great big world out there go see it, W has made it much safer for us all.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 06:22 AM | Link to this

A quick glance at some recent stories and we find columns such as that by Barry Saunders in the Raleigh News and Observer, who says the shooting was intended as a Godfather-style message to Scooter Libby to keep his mouth shut on any possible future testimony concerning who ordered the leak of information on Valerie Plame.

Naturally, if you’re trying to scare somebody out of testifying against you, the first thing you would do is go into the woods 1,600 miles away and bust a cap on somebody completely disconnected from the Plame case.

By candide

February 16, 2006 07:00 AM | Link to this

DNA evidence shows, shocking!, that the Indians in the Americas have no middle eastern blood, contradicting the Book of Mormon. Don’t you think the Mormon Church would apologize for fraud? No, the Christian churches have never apologized for basing their faith on Paul of Tarsus who never met Jesus.

By Edd Williams

February 16, 2006 07:28 AM | Link to this

Tu es vraiment pleine de merde Monsieur Luckovich. Tu es penible et malpolit. En fait, tu es mechant!!

By Kelly Verdier

February 16, 2006 07:41 AM | Link to this

New caption for the “you owe me apology” toon. How about ” I’m sorry, I thought you had weapons of mass destruction.”

By Andy

February 16, 2006 07:53 AM | Link to this

Tonight on ABC News, first on World News Tonight and later on Nightline, we will hear excerpts from 12 hours of audio recordings reportedly made of meetings Saddam Hussein had with his senior advisers over the course of a decade. The full tapes, or transcripts of them, will be made available Saturday. The recordings are said to contain numerous references to weapons of mass destruction and Iraq’s thwarting of U.N. weapons inspectors. Already, some are touting the tapes as a “smoking gun” that will prove Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

By The Grinch

February 16, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this

candide, give up on the religious crap already….That’s all you post about. Religion has consumed you. Which is actually pretty ironic….

HAHAHAHAHA Now that’s funny…

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this

As the Daily Show already pointed out, if Dick Cheney had known then what he knew now… he would still have taken the same action.

“The world is a better place with Mr. Whittington having been shot,” Cheney commented. “And frankly, questioning our actions is only giving aid and comfort to the terrorist quail.”

By Liberal Texas Democrat

February 16, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

^^^^^^ “A hypothetical: If the tapes are in fact authentic, imagine that they include audio of Saddam Hussein talking about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Does this mean that Iraq actually had these weapons Saddam thought he had? Not necessarily. One of the leading theories about Iraqi WMD holds that Iraqi scientists misled Saddam about his WMD capability. These scientists, according to this theory, lied to their superiors for fear of reprisals if their lack of progress on WMD development was discovered. That Saddam believed he had these proscribed weapons is not proof that he did.”

By PI

February 16, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this

By Andy

February 16, 2006 07:53 AM | Link to this

Tonight on ABC News, first on World News Tonight and later on Nightline, we will hear excerpts from 12 hours of audio recordings reportedly made of meetings Saddam Hussein had with his senior advisers over the course of a decade. The full tapes, or transcripts of them, will be made available Saturday. The recordings are said to contain numerous references to weapons of mass destruction and Iraq’s thwarting of U.N. weapons inspectors. Already, some are touting the tapes as a “smoking gun�? that will prove Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

Aren’t these tapes from the late 80s and early 90s? Maybe even prior to the 1st Gulf War.

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this

And boy, are you “liberals” gonna look silly when it’s proven that Whittington actually WAS a quail.

We’ve got evidence: a smoking gun!

By Larry

February 16, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

To Liberal Texas Democrat You may be black balled from this blog for tell a true fact.

By BC

February 16, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this

By Andy

February 15, 2006 08:53 PM | Link to this

kimberly: You did so.

If you are going to accuse someone of lying at least don’t lie about them too. I don’t listen to Hannity or “Conservative�? O’Reilly. I’m strictly a Limbaugh man. And he quotes me, sweetheart.

No wonder he never has an intelligent thing to say.

By BC

February 16, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this

By the way Andy. On another blog someone claimed to know you. The real you. They said that you work for the AJC and that yes, as suspected by alot of people here that you are, well, “different”.

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

Andy you should stop polluting your mind with worthless ranting from that blowhard Rush and watch more Lou Dobbs. He tells it like it is about everybody including the Bushies. A true “no spin zone.” You want “fair and balanced,”? Lou Dobbs hits em all.

By finch

February 16, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

One again, the rabid right tries to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. Sorry, it’s still a pig part, not a fashion statement.

ABC-TV’s Brian Ross broke the Saddam tape story. Saddam doesn’t brag about having WMD’s. He brags about warning the US and British that, someday, somebody who hates them will have them and use them… but it WON’T be Iraq.

“Terrorism is coming. I told the Americans a long time before Aug. 2 and told the British as well … that in the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction.”… But he adds that Iraq would never do such a thing. “This is coming, this story is coming but not from Iraq.”

It’s a shame the AJC computer won’t let me post the ABC link, but you can look for yourself.

So… Saddam is “caught on tape” saying he warned the US and the Brits that WMD attacks from non-Iraqis were inevitable, and they’d better be prepared.

And this is bad?

By Wilma Lamb

February 16, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

sickofsleaze You have it partly right Mike, you should add they never say they are sorry till the polls start to fall. ladybug1@carrollsweb.com

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

Andy -

You can email Barry “The Godfather” Saunders and he will write you back. (Barry Saunders [barrys@nando.com]) I have an amusing cat fight going with him. His whitey-tighteys are twisted and he is foaming at the mouth at what I thought were very tame comments.

RW-

Damn - Can’t get that “Cheers” theme out of my mind. The last thing I want is to be reminded of our own resident Cliff all day.

Thanks for the Pravda link. Now we know where Dowd and Dean and Gore get their talking points. I was surprised by the cover of the DNC report - they used the wrong type of grass in the photo.

POSTMAN -

Your snarky commentary is just supercalifragilistic. You need to be properly vetted.

Do you have any new gay/drug jokes to entertain us with? I could not care less if they offend anyone, I’m only disgusted because they are just so tediously juvenile.

P.S. It occurs to me that when you use the phrase MAKE THE DONUTS that this is merely Islamspeak for what we Americans’ commonly refer to as BRINGING HOME THE BACON.

By Mike

February 16, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this

Looking at all of this liberal ignorance reminds me why Republicans keep running the country.

Liberals are a joke.

By candide

February 16, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

Edd Williams: vous etes de la canaille!

Grinch: eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.

By BC

February 16, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

You have seen the tapes, finch? I have not seen them yet and had heard that they were early 90s vintage. Anyway, the fact remains that no WMDs have to this day been found in Iraq. He probably used up all of the ones WE gave him when he gassed the Kurds.

By Scooter

February 16, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

Saddam was disliked in the area and had to put up an affront to the world that he had WMD’s. He was actually working, thorough the Oil for Food program, to end sanctions and reconstitute his WMD programs. Unfortunately, all of our human intelligence had been placed in Eastern Europe, but Bush is a liar for not knowing. Liberals independent thinking and intellect are amazing and sooooo compassionate they are.

Hey look a telephone pole, I’m going to go bang my head against it for the rest of the day and see if I can get some of that liberal intellect.

By mark

February 16, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Why are liberals so ignorant?

By BC

February 16, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this

Tonight, the White House faces charges that it is manipulating science to fit its own political agenda. The director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, Dr. James Hansen, says NASA’s public affairs office tried to silence him to keep him from talking about the dangers of global warming specifically. The head of the National Aeronautics Space Administration has even had to issue a memo saying, quote, “It is not the job of the public affairs officers to alter, filter or adjust engineering or scientific material produced by NASA’s technical staff.

Why such an obvious memo? Because of the public complaints by one prominent NASA scientist, James Hansen. That he had, in effect, been told to be quiet by global warming by a public affair’s officer who was a Bush political appointee.

This administration seems to want to alter, hide, or plain lie about everything. Americans deserve better than that.

By finch

February 16, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

BC, the Saddam tapes are audio only. ABC is releasing them bit by bit, stretching out it’s exclusive.

RW, I posted more stuff on your blog.

But I’d never, ever pimp it!

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 16, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish, I forgot to say thanks for the welcome to America yesterday. I too hope you can visit Israel sometime in the future. Perhaps you will be able to gain a deeper appreciation for the real vagaries of living in the Middle East.

By candide

February 16, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

Given the lies of this Administration, the arrogance of its leading figures, and the dangerous ignorance which has led to death and destruction, at home and abroad, only one thing would satisfy me. That hundreds, thousands of citizens march on the white house and turn Bush and Cheney out. In other words, a real revolution, like Jefferson recommended.

By finch

February 16, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this

By mark - February 16, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this

Why are liberals so ignorant?

mark,

Do you still beat your wife?

By BC

February 16, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

And your point Scooter? That the Preident, who supposedly had the “definitive” intel on Iraq didn’t know that our human intelligence was placed in Eastern Europe. Does that include that Chalabi bozo, or the infamous “curveball” who the Bushies/Dickies used as THE reliable source on WMDs? You know Scooter, the guy who later admitted he lied to get a permanent resident visa in Germany. And you are saying that Bush didn’t know. That only reinforces the perception that the guy is clueless. It is absolutely amazing the garbage that the Bush apologists can come up with when it is increasingly evident that this administration is awful.

Obviously Scooter cannot claim to possess the “intellect” that he claims is the sole sole domain of the wingcracks. And Scooter, banging your head on the telephone pole is a good idea. It might just help stir some of your dead brain cells. So Scooter. Take the “scat” that you litter the blog with and scoot on back to your trailer and have another beer.

By buff

February 16, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

Why do the leftists keep changing their handles on this blog?

Ashamed of who they really are?

Or is it schizophrenia?

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this

Good morning buff-oon. If Andy can do it so can everyone else.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

Anyone know why my “post a comment” email address is glowing yellow today? Is it just me, or have I gone radioactive?

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 16, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

BuyDanish, I’d like to respond to the allegation that I’m some kind of plant for some organization, and you guys accuse liberals of having moonbat theories…If you’ll recall, I only flew off the handle when you made that incredibly callous remark about how Muslim parents only want to strap a bomb onto their children so they can go out, blow themselves up, and collect martyr money from Saddam. I think that you really don’t mean that. Their are fanatics that would do such a thing but, just as their are Christians who will blow up abortion clinics, their are Muslims who will do likewise, but, just like Christians, most Muslims are just trying to make a good life for their families and have no violent tendencies whatsoever. That is whyI reacred the way I did, not because I belong to some organization.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

Candide - It sounds like you’re calling for a revolution, French style, with pitchforks and guillotines. We’re already fighting a worldwide reign of terror, we don’t need a homegrown one on our shores.

P.S. Have you registered to vote? That’s a handy, non-violent tool for waging political war. Of course, you have to be prepared to suffer defeats, just like in real battles.

By The Grinch

February 16, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this

FUNNY…. *�?One of the local television stations in South Louisiana actually aired an interview with a black woman from New Orleans. The interviewer was a woman from a Boston affiliate. She asked the black woman how such total and complete devastation of the churches in the area had affected their lives.

Without hesitation, the woman replied,�? I don’t know about all those other people, but we haven’t gone to churches in years. We gets our chicken from Popeye’s�?*

:)

By BC

February 16, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

Jewish and Proud, those about Muslim parents are indicative of the mentality of a lot of the far right wackos. It is probably a good bet that some of them think it is OK to bomb an abortion clinic. They see that as being on a mission from God. The Muslims that are on a mission from Allah are only the sick counterparts to some of the far right wackos that post those sick comments. But you are right. The majority of people in every country basically want the same thing. Everyone is a human with the same basic human needs no matter what race, religion, or nationality they might be.

By BC

February 16, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this

The only “plant” in this blog is that vegetable Scooter Jewish and Proud of It.

By finch

February 16, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

Buff,

I’m convinced many of the hit-and-run “leftists” here are paid right wing outside agitators who have been ordered to disrupt blogs wherever and whenever the infallable tenets of Rush-speak are threatened.

It’s only PsyOps 101 stuff. I just ignore it.

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

finch, have you noticed that the primary members of the neo-con cabal run and hide when two or three opponents show up to counter their BS or to do battle. They prefer to gang up on one blogger but when reinforcements arrive they run like cockroaches from a flashlight. It is really no wonder that they love this administration. It appears that they have the chickenhawk tendencies as well.

By The Grinch

February 16, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

Neo-cons have to work. That’s what we do.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

JAP, okay, maybe you’re not an imbed. It was a joke, and one can never be too careful in weeding out spies for Cair. I will continue to be ever vigilant..

But I don’t need lectures about how Islam is really the religion of peace and only a few oddballs use their childrens as agents of death. Of course there are exceptions, but the sad fact remains that “moderates”, who have allowed themselves to become a minority, need to get off their fannies and bring sanity back. I can’t do that, only they can.

Here’s a link you may want to scroll through. Warning, they want to drink your blood enroute to heaven AND Valentine’s Day is not to be practiced, “even in hotel rooms”. Quick! Hide the chocolate! Jihad Watch

BTW, I know you say that you’re not up on current events, but can you tell me when the last abortion clinic boming occured? The comparison further fails simply because the numbers just aren’t even close. Hundreds of millions of fanatics versus a handful of kooks.

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

Have a great day riding your forklift, Grinch. Will we see you today at your 11:00 am 30 minute lunch break?

By Jim Rapkin

February 16, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

I have an idea for a cartoon. Noting that Chenney went to FOX news for sympathetic coverage, how about a cartoon showing an adolescent Cheney going to “Daddy” Rupert Murdock at Fox with a detention slip, or hunting violation, in hand. Murdock says something like, don’t worry son, we’ll take care of this for you.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

finch,

If that’s MoDo showing up on my blog, her alter-ego “Timothy” is winning so far. Hell even that Saunders dude was funnier.

I better run and hide now, “NGingrich” might come back with one of his scary CNN commercials.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

BC believes Everyone is a human with the same basic human needs no matter what race, religion, or nationality they might be.

Are you sure about that? I’ve heard that Jews are monkeys and pigs.

NGingrich: No, actually I haven’t noticed that. Believe me, we are a hale and hearty bunch, and nothing you dimwits spew out will weaken our resolve.

I have noticed a lot of your friends disappearing from these pages to crawl back into their caves, and I’ve only been here for a short time.

BTW, I get the feeling that you are and anti-semite with your prattle about “neo-cons”. Those of us in the know, know that this is libspeak for “Jew bastard”.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this

“an” anti-semite

By The Grinch

February 16, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

NGingrich, you gotta remember…I am a neo-con, I own the forklift and the “rider” as you put it works for me.

By BC

February 16, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

Jim do you remember how the cons used to bash Hillary when she would pack her press conferences with friendlies that would lob her softball questions? Now Deferment Dicky runs to FOX to field softballs. You know what they say. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.

By Midori

February 16, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

*By NGingrich *

finch, have you noticed that the primary members of the neo-con cabal run and hide when two or three opponents show up to counter their BS or to do battle. They prefer to gang up on one blogger but when reinforcements arrive they run like cockroaches from a flashlight. It is really no wonder that they love this administration. It appears that they have the chickenhawk tendencies as well.

NGingrich,

I call it “Swift Blogging”.

And the day I called it that, I was immediately swift blogged.

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

Yeah we know Grinch. Now get your a-ss back on that forklift and quit stealing the real owners dime. If your supervisor catches you he might take that 30 minute break from you.

By Ricky

February 16, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

Well this is Lucko’s personal vendetta against the Bush administration. He has listed everything he hates about Bush and company in one cartoon. I found the interview with Lucko interesting. He claims the cartoons are over the line, which doens’t surprise me. But would he say the same about a cartoon picking on Christians or Jews? I doubt it.

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

So I guess that makes them “swiftblog veterans.” A most unique form of chickenhawk.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

NGingrich: Actually your huge right wing conspiracy theory is called “work.”

BC/ oddball gay finch: Thanks for losing control of your functions there when you read about Saddam’s WMD tapes, the fear and trepidation from you two was very palpable, I can understand your excitement, this is going to knock down the whole pinko house of cards about “no WMD.” I’ve been telling you libs for quite some time now, traitors like you and France gave him 6 months to unload the stuff, now we are going to find out what he had.

And we get to watch you pinkos squirm at the same time, which is like a double bonus.

I’m sure Hussien sat around all day with his staff of killers talking about wasting an American City or two with WMD when all they had was a rubber band gun.

Although I should be careful with my gloating, you pinkos sit around here all day making up these crazy a-ss conspiracy theories, I suppose Saddam could have…

By BC

February 16, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Midori I think when you get “swiftbloged” the best thing to do is fight back with all your might, hitting them with what they fear the most. TRUTH. In Andy’s case it is his being “different.”

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

Andy, visiting gay websites while on the states dime isn’t working.

By Andy's Mom

February 16, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this

Please stop embarrassing me son. It’s bad enough that you got that xy chromosome imbalance from your daddy, but when you show your a-ss on this blog everyday just like you do on that webcam with all those other chromosome challenged men it just breaks my heart.

By WWJD

February 16, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this

Tell us where all those WMDs on the tape went Andy. Did Saddam have a Genie jump out of a bottle and hide them all for him.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this

Has anybody seen “WWJD” or “NEWT”. They are missing in action.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

WWJD,

It really wouldn’t make much difference if the WMD’s on the tapes were real. If you would like to test this theory get off a plane with your hand inside your jacket claiming you have a bomb.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

NGingrich: The goofy pinko lib Congressman are holding a Katrina Grandstanding Session, with as many cameras as they can place in front of themselves, while the people’s business goes unattended. As we speak, the federal government does not know how much AMT to hit me with, they haven’t yet finalized this year’s tax legislation, which means I can’t file my return yet. If you have any idea about income tax, and believe me I feel like I’m stretching your knowledge, anybody who works for the government and gets into AMT territory is either a five star general or the vice president. I’m neither of those. Must I carry this explanation to it’s full conclusion?

By Andy's Mom

February 16, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

PLEEEEZE Andy. Everybody here knows that you don’t work and I keep gettin massive phone bills from all those 900 numbers you call. Your psychologist keeps telling me that I should send you somewhere to get proper care for the hygiene problems you have and that the compulsive masturbation thing is a reaction to your low self esteem and delusions of grandeur. Next session I guess i’ll have to tell her that now you are putting putting Dick Cheney’s head on pictures of nekid men to entertain yourself. I LOVE YOU ANDY! Please get better.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

WWJD: I’m not playing kook games with you all day, it is not my fault that you trusted the AJC to keep you informed, live with your mistakes. However, on this one point, I will offer a little insight: Google the phrase “WMD Truck Convoy Syria” and see what comes up. I haven’t done it myself but I got a feeling….

By MikeT

February 16, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

So Andy, you really are gay?

By MikeT

February 16, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

I would really like to meet you Andy. Maybe we could play web cam games together and see if we want to “date.”

By Andy

February 16, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

So how is it going, blogger, it looks like your Mexican “wife” may have left you, she get tired of you stalking men around the blogosphere?

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

Good for you MikeT. Andy now has someone that appreciates him for him.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

The level of discourse that oddball gay finch would like to see here:

By MikeT

February 16, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

I would really like to meet you Andy. Maybe we could play web cam games together and see if we want to “date.�?

By MikeT

February 16, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

Andy I really do want to meet you. But I will ask you to take a bath before we get “together.”

By MikeT

February 16, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

You really are “sweet” Andy. I like you lots. Will you be my Valentine?

By MikeT

February 16, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

Andy my sweet. Have you ever seen that story on A&E about Johnie Versace and Andrew Cunanan? What a tragic and sad story. It was kind of like Romeo and Juliet. Are you romantic Andy? I think we will be a great love story. Don’t you Andy?

By The Grinch

February 16, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

Damn who let the homo liberals in?

By Ady's Dad

February 16, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

B***-kunt

Do you still have your German Sheppard boogering you every day?

By gadem

February 16, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

Andy you don’t have to worry about the AMT, I am sure your income is well under 40…

By NEWT

February 16, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

Congratulations MikeT on finding the love of your life. But you may be setting yourself up for disapointment. Andy is a true mastur-debater, but can he perform when it’s showtime? Probably not. But good luck to you and Andy. In a way I am happy for him too. He finally has someone that thinks he’s something special. Good for you!

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

It’s 10:56 Grinch. A little early for your 30 minute break. Back on the forklift. You can’t afford to lose your job and miss your singlewide payment.

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 16, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

Perhaps the Apocalypse is on the way, I agree with Andy! He is right, so many on the left in this blog give him such a hard time about how abrasive he is yet, for the last half hour everyone is insinuating he’s gay. W

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 16, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Perhaps the Apocalypse is on the way, I agree with Andy! He is right, so many on the left in this blog give him such a hard time about how abrasive he is yet, for the last half hour everyone is insinuating he’s gay. If you want the “level of discourse” to improve, be the bigger man and take the first step.

By Andy's Mom

February 16, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

Dear X. Are you doing crack again. You know the judge gave Rin Tin Tin to you in the divorce settlement. I will admit that I wanted him real bad. But lucky me. I got Andy instead.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

Mike T:

Do you realize what you have just said? Don’t you realized that you have targeted yourself for a fatwa? Just another thing you can’t do or die

Andy: Stay away from Mike T! He’s an infidel!

By gadem

February 16, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

THe Grinch AKA The Token is living in a house on Sect. 8….so in other words, someone else is paying for him to live where he lives…all the while he is bringing down the property value with his broken down cars in the driveway….hey token those cars will never run again…donate them to charity and get the taxable deduction.

By Andy's Mom

February 16, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

He is! Why do you think he was always gaybaiting and homophobing? His analyst says that he sometimes is in denial and does that stuff. But all it did was give his secret away.

By The Grinch

February 16, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

NGingrich, thanks for the time reminder, I got a 11:45 tee time, AKA an offsite meeting. Later losers…..

By gadem

February 16, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this

Andy, so what is your taxable income?

By Karen

February 16, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this

Maybe they are just fighting fire with fire Jewish and Proud of It. Maybe if he would stop being such an a-ss we could have some good discussion here. It’s up to Andy to change the tone. All of this always starts right after he throws an insult. He is just reaping what he sows.

By MikeT

February 16, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

I would love a fatwa if it is Andy’s.

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

Yeah Grinch we know. Anyway, have a nice day at the singlewide with your 12 pack of Milwaukee’s best. Dreams are a good thing until you get delusional. Remember that. But until 3:00…back on the forklift Gomer.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

Karen - Thanks for the biblical reference. Don’t let Candide know that you quoted from the Bible. He’ll want to burn your blog.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

Mike T - Forget about Andy. You’re a marked “man”. It’s over dude.

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 16, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

Karen, I have reviewed all of Andy’s posts since 4:00 a.m., astonishingly, he used the word “pinko” only twice and “kook” only once, strangely anemic for Andy. He has, IMO, kept the “level of discourse” comparetively (sp ?) civil today, so the liberals overwhelm him with grief. Give credit where credit is due, Andy has done quite well in minding his manners today..

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

Donating the junk cars is a good idea Grinch. Add that to your earned income credit and you can live large. Buy lots of beer and take in some live rasslin. Ought to last you about a week. Enjoy it grinch. You work hard on that forklift. You deserve it.

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

Get out of your piggy bank Andy. gadem didn’t say your net worth, he said taxable income.

By Monica's Man

February 16, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

candide is a man? I did not think a man could whine all the time like that. I would has swore that candide was a crack ho.

By WWJD

February 16, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

Andy and MikeT must be having that “teleconference” they were setting up a while ago.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

The libs are really turning on their former constituents. Soon there will be no one left to vote for them.

By Voice of Reason

February 16, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

Did Sonny close school again today? It’s like a Romper Room convention in here!

By Whitney H.

February 16, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

I had a real good time the other day Monica’s Man. You live in the nicest mobile home park that I have ever been in. And you were so nasteeee baby. Peweeeee. That tank top tee shirt with the holes in it, the dirty boxer shorts. Baby you were the whole enchilada. And I really got off when you put on that ballcap with the rebel flag and the big truck on it. You were good you hunka burnin murican man love. And thanks for the beer too.

By Monica's Man

February 16, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

Sorry Whitney, Im a neo-con….

By Whitney H.

February 16, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

You did time, Monica’s man? You didn’t tell me that honey. But oh you just never mind. But you do need to lose some of that gut. Remember how we kept havin to kind of push it to the side when we were tryin to bump uglies?

By Andy

February 16, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

Just further proof of how vicious, stupid and hypocritical the pinko media has become, they think they’re God but they are really the biggest losers on the planet:

HBO’s Gumbel: Lack of Blacks Makes Olympics ‘Look Like a GOP Convention’

By Whitney H.

February 16, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

I was a little disappointed in one thing though. I thought your blog name meant you was Bill Clinton. That guy is sexyyyyyy! But we had some fun anyway didn’t we?

By MikeT

February 16, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Thank you Andy. That was really GREAAAATTTT! I’m glad we are going to meet for real. Webcams are fun, but the real thing will be better.

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

JAPOI: Perhaps that’s because the most devastating insult Andy can come up with when someone REALLY angers him is “you’re gay.”

By Andy

February 16, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

J&P: Don’t worry about me, let these liberals speak. Other people are reading what they say and are perfectly capable of making judgements about who has the ideas and who is an immature little child. I encourage them to lash out, let them tag themselves for what they really are.

By ART

February 16, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

Gumbel is wrong about that. The GOP convention looks more like a professional wrestling arena.

By MikeT

February 16, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this

Don’t forget our next “teleconference”.

By Dusty

February 16, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Voice of Reason,

Sonny didn ‘t close schools but the former head supt. in DeKalb County did. For a whole week. It is gonna be grin and bear it.

Kids, could you clean up your act a bit? You are almost as bad as the so-called adult liberals. You don’t want to sink that low, do you?

By NGingrich

February 16, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

JAPOI: Perhaps that’s because the most devastating insult Andy can come up with when someone REALLY angers him is “you’re gay.�?

And when Andy does that, as J.C. Watts likes to say, “that’s like the sea calling the sky blue.”

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this

Andy -

Thanks for the Gumbel post. Is it our fault that “Black men don’t ski”? Leave it to Karl Rove to segregate skating rinks and ski slopes. I’m going to help Gumbel out:

Yoo Hoo, calling the Congressional Black Caucus. Calling Deaniacs everywhere. Wake up sleepy heads - We have a real issue for you to run on! Forget about that culture of corruption and culture of secrecy stuff; this Olympics issue is the real winner!

By Karen

February 16, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

Dusty I will bet that when Andy learns to act civilly and stops calling names and gaybaiting that it will stop. Someone has made up their mind that he is going to take as much or more than he gives. And rightfully so. Blog bullies deserve the same in return.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

Danish: Maybe they could learn to ski if they weren’t busy gay bashing discussion blogs, you reckon?

I got it! We could make mindless pinko blog bashing an olympic sport! If you provided any discussion material or new ideas, you get disqualified! Add 20 points if you are a minority! We’ll call it Title Z! I know of at least 20 contestants available right now..

By Karen

February 16, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

See what I mean. When he’s not gaybaiting he’s racebaiting.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

Funny that J.C Watts and the Congressional Black Caucus come up in consecutive posts.

When Watts was in Congress he asked to join the CBC and they told him he didn’t qualify for membership.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

Karen: Since you are a lib and probably rely on the government to pay your way through life, I would strongly suggest that you not gamble away all of your money, especially on a bet that you are sure to lose, like the pinkos being civil no matter what I do, HAHAHAHBWAHABWA!!! That’s so funny of you to even say.

By MikeT

February 16, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Can we trade some more nude pictures Andy? Just to get us over until our next cam meet?

By MikeT

February 16, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

Andy my sweet. Can we trade some more nude pictures? Just to get us by until our next cam meet?

By Dusty

February 16, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

Karen,

Are you reading the same blog that I am reading? Andy is far outnumbered in the name calling by liberals who are not exactly Miss Manners. You are not a sweetheart yourself since you had to use a consored word to name him. Maybe you better get a recount on Blog bullies.

By Karen

February 16, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

I just said that Andy has always been the one to bully people get it started and now he’s getting nuked. You can compare him to Saddams invasion of Kuwait. Saddam started it and then proceeded to get his b-utt kicked by overwhelming force. You know, Andy’s mother of all battles.

By ART

February 16, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Good analogy Karen. You could also use Custer’s last stand. Andy’s days of having exclusive rights to “blog terrorism” is officially over.

By Midori

February 16, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

Well, Ah Dee-clare, Miz Dusty.

Lawdy, Lawdy me.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

So what is it Karen, is gay bashing good or is gay bashing bad? That’s the only response the liberals in here have had to me this morning, so how can they be smoking me, if they are gay baiting? You seem to think awfully well of it.

Smoke another doob, dear, enjoy the world you live in.

By MikeT

February 16, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the pictures Andy. They ought to keep me busy for awhile. Hope you enjoy mine as well. Thanks for being my friend Andy. You really are nice.

By Jay not jay

February 16, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

Andy, Maybe you should re-post the definition of “Pinko” again since they seem to equate that to defaming the Quran or something on that level. Is today a teacher’s workday and all the kiddies are free to come out and play? I’ve seen middle schoolers come up with better stuff that this.

By Dusty

February 16, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

Karen,

Your liberal “tunnel vision” is almost as bad as your analogies. You don’t seem to notice that Andy loves this country so much that he doesn’t like people who want revolutions, impeachments,preach propaganda of any type against this government, and present political lies that endanger our military and our country. He doesn’t care for “phonies”.

OK, so that is “preachy”. Probably too long for you and doesn’t have any censored words. Try and figure it out.

By Dusty

February 16, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Back to your quarters, girl. You’re loafing.

By steve andrews

February 16, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

Hi Mike: Guess what? You’ve gotta keep up the comics stripes; since you’ve proven that illustrations Do Not hurt; as bullets do? If open meinded readers get offended; then they have their personal choice to look at themselves from within. For those who live in glass homes; they may refuse or else be refugees from the human race. So why not put on a happy face & smile; dispite the rest who wimp & Moan like Bill O’reilly. From a fan; Steve andrews

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Olympics Medal contender Karen says, See what I mean. When he’s not gaybaiting he’s racebaiting

Karen darling, why don’t you check out today’s news? Andy was even nice enough to provide with a link. Bryant Gumbel, that paragon of liberalism, just managed to insult every athlete at the Olympic Games and insult entire Republican Party, in one idiotic (but not surprising) sentence that defines RACEBAITING.

Meanwhile James Carville is demanding to know the blood alcohol level of Mr. Whittington, so the scandal hunt continues.

You know, I checked out the DNC website today, and there is absolutely NOTHING there. Why don’t you help them out and come up with an actual agenda that does not include race, sex, gender, or rumor -mongering?

By candide

February 16, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

Republicans don’t like blood levels. Laura Bush killed someone while drunk and her husband, well, y’all know about him.

By Truthman

February 16, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this

Hey Neo-cons, how’s it feel to have Cheneyquiddick.

Hey Dick, why were the police turned away from the Armstrong ranch. Did you need to tell her what she saw so she could lie to the police like you lie to the American publid?

By Andy

February 16, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this

Truthman: What does that mean, Cheneyquiddick, could you explain how you derived that word?

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 01:10 PM | Link to this

Candide - You’re treading in dangerous territory here, but do keep entertaining us with your poisonous wit.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

Truthman,

Ordinarily I would overlook what appears to be a common typo, but since you have a fondness for creating words would you also tell us how you derived the word “publid”?

By gadem

February 16, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

Hey Andy have you determined what your AMT is going to be?

By Andy

February 16, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

gadem: Dude, I took the time and made the effort to explain to everybody that I’m waiting on Congress to get off their grandstanding behinds, put the partisan political attack dog show aside for a moment and figure my and many American’s AMT for us, does this stop you from stupidly asking the same question less than an hour later?

By RE

February 16, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

Anyone else catch Condi getting hammered in Congress yesterday. I didn’t see it in any of the news outlets today but caught some of it on TV. The republicans are chewing her out, not just the dems.

Prediction: The republicans will lose in 06 and 08 because they will distance themselves from bush (kinda like gore did to clinton). If they stay 100% behind him, they will draw out the 35-40% of the people who strongly support bush no matter what.

By Brian Curtis

February 16, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this

Any minute now, evidence will be found proving that Cheney did the right thing in shooting Mr. Whittington. Our troops are on the ground searching for that evidence as we speak.

And if they don’t find it, it’s because whiners like you don’t support our troops! How DARE you? Why do you hate America??

Oh, this is great stuff… Deadeye Dick is gonna have a hard time being taken seriously as a major force for evil after this foulup. They may even revoke his Dark Lord of the Sith title and kick him out of the villains’ club.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

February 17, 2006 No.1096

Reformist Iranian Internet Daily: A New Fatwa States That Religious Law Does Not Forbid Use of Nuclear Weapons

Good, let’s drop one on them.

By Midori

February 16, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

now THAT is funny :)

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

I never thought I’d see the day when gadem, RE, and Brian Curtis would be welcome sights.

RE,

What does your prediction mean? I would guess you mean the White House in ‘08, tell me what defines “Republicans will lose” in ‘06.

By kimberly

February 16, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

Candide, You’re treading on dangerous territory. Woooooooo… Be careful proceeding through stop signs from now on. Snopes.com confirms that our first lady did indeed kill a young man, reputed to be a recent ex-boyfriend, with her car on Nov. 6, 1963. However, no alcohol test was performed, just like with Cheney, so it’s NO FAIR to insinuate that she was drinking. (No test, no proof. No body, no crime. Don’t you watch Gretta?) I have no information as to whether she apologized for the incident. Careful Candide. It’s dangerous to bring up the past, you know. If you dare insinuate that anyone associated with the Great and Powerful Dubya might ever have transgressed during their perfect, sin-free lives, you are a traiterous pinko, didn’t the guardians of the sandbox make that clear? Duck! They’re going to kick sand in our faces now!

By RE

February 16, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

Nick Names:

George W Bush- “der failure” “shrub” “King George” “chimpy” “coke monkey”

Richard Bruce Cheney- “deadeye dick” “5 deferment dick” “the shooter” “darth Cheney”

Laura Bush- “crash”

Ronald Reagan- “cut and run Ronnie”

Ted Kennedy- “the swimmer”

John Kerry-“Herman Munster”

Hilary Clinton- “Hildabeast”

Please tell me if I missed any

By Kevin

February 16, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

Hi i guess u forget hillarys rose papers.Also foster death n the stealin of all the paper work n stuff after his death. No out cry on that…also congress gave bush right to tap phones of terriost callin in Usa! Remember now its odd u all go after Vp but after bill clinton rape of of one lady in motel.

By RE

February 16, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

RW, I am saying that the repubs in the huse and senate will lose seats, most likely not enough to shift control, but their majority will decrease, at least for those that distance themselves from W. I think the best way for repubs to maintain control is to be fully supportive of W, perhaps with some critisism of him not being conservative enough. Except of Ohio, I do not think much can be done to save the repubs in ohio…too much corruption, no one fessing up.

By RE

February 16, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

Kevin, well said, well spoken. Be careful of getting any drool in the keyboard

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 02:25 PM | Link to this

RE,

John Edwards- “the Breck Girl” & “Silky pony”

John Murtha-“Mothra”

John Kerry- “The haughty, French-looking Massachusetts Democrat, who by the way served in Vietnam,” James Taranto

Maybe it’s fitting that there are so many Johns in politics.

By RE

February 16, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

Come on now, you have to admit, that edwards has nice hair. never heard the silky pony, thats a good one

By Voice of Reason

February 16, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

RE - Now THAT was the funniest thing I read all day. Drool. LOL.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

RE,

Didn’t Kerry say they were running on the “better hair” platform?

I heard the “Silky Pony” from Laura Ingraham, but I don’t know if it originated there. She also calls him “Thumbkin” for that weird little thumb flip he does.

By RE

February 16, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

Dick Cheney- “the penguin”

think the 60s batman series

By RE

February 16, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

I still think Ronnie set the standard in presidential hair, that stuff was bulletproof. a little grecian formula, a little kevlar from dupont

By David200

February 16, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

By Danish

I like the name. Count me in. On the other hand: Bin Laden and Hussein both brought this destruction on their own people/neighbors. Nope, you’re wrong there. Bin Laden brought it on Afghanistan. As far as I’m concerned, they can pave it over and make it a parking lot/staging area for our military. I don’t have a tear for anyone in that country. They could have stopped all of the problems by taking over their government. The Afghanistani’s (if that’s the right name)didn’t act to save themselves so what happened to them was the same thing that happend to the German people when we bombed the p* out of them. I have no sympathy.

Iraq’s another story. The current administration took their eye of the target and went into a war of convenience for whatever reasons they could find (or make up). We have over-extended our military and got good men killed for a poor prize. The enemy MAY now be in Iraq, but they weren’t there in any numbers before. That was restricted to Saudi Arabia and Iran. They are our true enemies. Their governments are the bad guys that are supporting Bin Laden and his ilk. Their countries are the one’s we should be invading, but we can’t… Simply because we are stuck in a fight that we had no business starting, and we don’t have sufficient numbers of troops to “solve the problem.” Don’t link a religious government of loonies (Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia) with a secular loony (Sadaam). They have little in common other than they are all loonies.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

Joe Lieberman-“Snagglepuss”

Hillary Clinton-“Wasted ball of wax”

By RE

February 16, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

you know, the wax sculpture actually exudes more warmth and humanity than the real thing

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this

RE,

That’s what I thought too, maybe they can animate it when she runs for President.

By Midori

February 16, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

“When I was just a baby, my momma told me, son Get plenty of deferments, but learn to shoot a gun. So I shot a man in Texas; it looks like he’ll survive. Well there’s no need to call the sheriff, Go f*** yourself, goodbye.”

By RE

February 16, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

That would be a good idea, another added benefit is that the wax sculpture cannot speak, the less the dems speak, the greater their chances will be

By RE

February 16, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

Tom Delay “the Hammer” Future nick name “inmate 4566157”

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

You must have been typing too fast, let me fix that for you

Tom Delay “the Hammer�?

Ronnie Earl “inmate 4566157�?

By Dusty

February 16, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

RE,

Why don’t you list the great ideas and initiatives of the Democratic Party instead of nicknames? Fundraising and investigations don’t count.

Then list all the candidates the party has in mind for the next presidential election. That should be interesting. Past tryouts don’t count.

By Liberal Jew

February 16, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

It looks like a liberal circle jerk in here today. Reminds me of the democraticunderground site. Everyone saying the same crap and everyone giving each other high fives for saying the same crap day after day after day after day.

By John

February 16, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

Mike L-Just wondering if you could do some kind of absolutely hilarious satire on Ted Kennedy being the spokesperson for the Democrats regarding Cheney’s delay of reporting the accident. Or maybe you could do one on how long it took for Senator Robert Byrd to report his last lynching. I know, a little 4 square on the news about Vince Foster’s “suicide” until his office could be cleansed (where’s Harvey Keitel when you need him?)would sure tickle my funny bone.

The liberals are absolutely losing it. Michelle Malkins book Unhinged is an absolute gem concerning the hysteria, histrionics, and wolf-crying going on.

By RE

February 16, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

Lets see, possible dem candidates for 08;

Hillary Clinton, Mark Warner, Joe Biden, John Edwards, John Kerry, Bill Richarson.

Tell me if I missed any. Of those I think Warner has the best shot, followed by Richardson and Hillary.

Democratic ideas, how about no longer conducting nation building, and balancing the budget. Maybe you have a way to be a solvent nation by going deeper in debt each year, but I don’t see it.

By Dusty

February 16, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

Oh, Midori, had guns been invented when you were “just a baby”?

By candide

February 16, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

I’ve decided to turn down hunting invitations from Republikins.

Just like I never drink Baptist Iced Tea here in the Ole South. Give me the Ole Sod anytime.

By RE

February 16, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

Guys, please. no more of this justification by past wrong doing stuff. will the “but clinton did it” idea ever die?

By Ricky

February 16, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

RE, you Dem ideas are conservative ideas. This administration are not conservatives. They are big government Republicans and yes there is a difference. So yeah, try to steal our(conservative) ideas. You might have a problem when the Republicans run a real conservative like John McCain. Of your candidates, Biden, Clinton, Edwards, and Kerry have no shot. Warner and Richardson are the only viable candidates but the Dems will self-implode and nominate someone who can’t win again

By The REAL Brian Curtis

February 16, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

I look FABULOUS in pink chiffon, and I can belt out “It’s Raining Men” like NOBODY’S business.

Hallalujah!

By John

February 16, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

Robert Byrd, Local Kleegel of WV KKK, “Sheets”

Ted Kennedy, “Neckbrace Nepotist”

Ronnie Earl “The Fisherman” or “Empty Poker hand”

By Jimg

February 16, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

Ricky - McCain against an ammendment banning Gay marriage, and against stoping asbestos litigation (among other things). Yeah real conservative. lol

By RE

February 16, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

I am with you Ricky, I have no loyalty to a party. The only idea I find of merit is that of fiscal conservatism. That has been lost over the last few years. You can say the republicans forced Clinton to balance the budget, or you can say Clinton did it, it does not matter to me, but clearly there are no more fiscal conservatives “in power”. I think Flake is on the right track in this area, but he is far from being in power. I could not care who steals what idea, so long as the govt. is run responsibly.

Best chances to win in 08, in my mind, would be -McCain, Gulliani, Warner, Hillary. I just do not see McCain or Gulianni getting the GOP nomination.

By Ricky

February 16, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this

RE, there is no way Hillary can win a national election, none. I agree that Guilani probably will not get the nomination, but I think enough Republicans have been p** of by this admin that McCain stands a very good chance

By Dusty

February 16, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Thanks, RE. Good try. Kerry is a washout so he doesn’t count.

Republicans are working on making the nation more solvent.(Stop the pork!) We haven’t yet figured how to stop hurricanes and tsunamis but we will work on that next. Building freedom will always be a Republican perogative. Iraqis are counting on that one.

By John

February 16, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this

Bill “The Ripper” Clinton

*Hillary “Cheesy Legs” Clinton

John “Boy Band” Edwards

John “JJJJJJJJenghis” Kerry, Oh by the way I was really in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Campuchea, Burma, Kwnng dong, pi pi Tibet, ears, noses, electrodeds, report my own commendations, Thailand, Korea…….

By Jimg

February 16, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

Oh stop for all that is holy, with the freedom talk regarding Iraq, we went there for WMDs not freedom. THats the revised justification for being there.

By RE

February 16, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

I am not seeing it Ricky, the GOP today drawn its strength from being an exclusive party. There is a clear us vs. them mentality at play that precludes any moderate of having a chance. On the Dem side they have only a sense of fear. They will compromise on any issue to appeal to as many people as possible, so all of their candidates seem oppertunistic and weak. I think the best shot for them is Warner, provided he does not listen to anyone in the dem power structure. Hillary has a better chance than you think, she has a firm opposition already, but also a firm support. She would be competing for far fewer middle votes because most people have already made up thier mind on her, however I think she would bring a high turnout that would benefit her

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

Kimberly and Candide -

Apparently your side has taken a new “law and order position” which aims to criminalize all accidents when Republicans are involved. Now, if you and Candide think that this swill is going to get you votes, try it and see how many seats you pick up in 2006.

Of course, one obvious difference between Laura Bush and say, Ted Kennedy, is that she is not a Senator on the Judiciary Committee, and holds no sway over the American people. Kennedy made a horses’a* of himself as he sanctimoniously grilled a fine man, Judge Alito, whose humility and grace stand in remarkable contrast to the self-righteous grand inquisitor.

Particularly loathesome to the American people who “got” what was happening, was the esteemed Senators’ attempted prosecution of Alito because CAP magazine wrote a parody of affirmative action. This is of course the ultimate criminal offense to liberals - to ignore marxist pleas to ban “offensive” speech. Luckily for us, Alito won and Kennedy lost.

David200 -

Bin Laden aligned himself with The Taliban. While no one advocates indiscriminate destruction of innocent civilians, least of all me, the blame for these deaths needs to go where it belongs: Squarely on the shoulders of Bin Laden, The Taliban, and assorted friends and relatives.

Re Hussein, I’m glad that you acknowledge that there were SOME Al Qaeda types in Iraq before we invaded. I am not going to slog through the entire episode, except to say that Hussein, like Bin Laden, is the one who needs to take the blame for any “collateral damage”. He was given fair warning after all.

Stay alert for developments that ruin the “Bush lied and soldiers died” mantra.

By RE

February 16, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

Hey dusty, who exactally has been creating and approving mismanaged budgets filled with pork for the last 5 years?

By Ricky

February 16, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

RE, look at the polls man. Hillary has some of the highest negative reactions of any politician. She would be hard pressed to beat any decent candidate. Your statement that the Republican Party draws its power from being exclusive is a myth. Over the past 10 years, the Republican party has increased its membership among minorities, it has increased the number of minority candidates it is running and has put more minorities in high ranking positions for the first time than any other admin

By RE

February 16, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this

Ricky, that is not the type of exculsive I mean. They are idealogically exclusive, not racist. A candidate who is not firmly pro life will not get a nomination. Gulianni really has no shot in the primary, but he would win in a landslide nationally. So far as beating any decent candidate, aside from McCain and Gulianni, who is there? I do not care which part takes the whitehouse, provided it is a candidate who is fiscally responsible and a realist, not an idealist.

By RE

February 16, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

I like Bill “macanuedo” Clinton a little more

By Midori

February 16, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this

Over the past 10 years, the Republican party has increased its membership among minorities, it has increased the number of minority candidates it is running and has put more minorities in high ranking positions for the first time than any other admin

now click your heels together and repeat after me:

There’s no place like home. There’s no place like home. There’s no place like home. There’s no place like home.

By Dusty

February 16, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

jimg,

The President and the Congress said “GO” on this war. We are now in the process of building freedom. “For all that is holy”, why don’t you support our efforts which would be appreciated by all Americans, including the troops.

Gotta go now. Time to get busy.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

Ummm, John “Snuggles”” Kedwards.

By RE

February 16, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this

No Answer from dusty on who made and approved the budget for the last 5 years….must have been clinton fault

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this

I think that unless McCain changes his views on restricting free speech, er, “campaign finance reform”, he has about as much of a chance as Harriet Miers. I did like his letter to Obama - that was a nice example of ironic wit and satire, something that the liberals completely lack as they confuse sarcasm with satire. Kimberly may want to read that letter to get some writing style ideas.

Re the dems: Warner who? Maybe some people will think they’re voting for Liz’ ex and will pick up the Michael Jackson vote.

RE - I’m impressed with your concern with fiscal responsibility. What programs are you willing to “cut”?

By RE

February 16, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this

never heard the snuggles one

By buff

February 16, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this

RE

“Dingy” Harry Reid

Dick Turbin Durbin

Baghdad Bob McDermott

Nancy the mouth Pelosi

algore

Shrub Bush

Baby Fat Landrieux

Robert KKK Byrd

Leaky Leahy

By kimberly

February 16, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this

Sweetroll, Apparently your side has taken a new “law and order position�? which aims to criminalize all accidents when Republicans are involved. Huh? Are you misquoting, or interpreting? (It has been explained to me there’s a difference.)

Now, if you and Candide think that this swill is going to get you votes, try it and see how many seats you pick up in 2006. Um… I’m not running for office. Maybe that’s a dream you had or something. Or maybe you just interpreted something I said to mean “Hey guys, i’m running for office!” I certainly won’t presume to know what YOU meant by “picking up seats.” Could be vulgar; please don’t share.

By Jimg

February 16, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this

Dusty - Yes, yes I know.

I say we went for WMDs, (Congress got taken for a ride by false inteligence given by the legislative branch of governement to not only congress but also americans)…You say traitor you don’t support america and the soldiers. Yeah I know the Party line, y even think I have a bumper sticker somewhere with that Rep slogan, I’ll look for it.

By Ricky

February 16, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this

Midori, show me proof how that statement is wrong. You can’t because you know its true. You should reall try not to be such a blind partisan all the time.

RE, we all know you made and approved the budget and that is what is wrong with this admin. They are big gov’t Republicans, not true conservatives. How many spending bills has Bush vetoed? None. I can’t wait to see a conservative run who understands fiscally responsibility. That was a huge part of the Contract with America that got the Republican Party turned around and they have gotten away from it.

By RE

February 16, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

BD The biggest source of waste and corruption is in the military budget. No one would dare vote against increased military spending because they would be labeled as weak on defence. I am not talking about cutting pay for troops or scaling back deployment, if anything we need a larger army. A great deal of waste goes into the R+D for systems that will never be used. They are sinking billions into a blimp to carry troops and equipment. A blimp. I remember back when trent lott was running the senate the navy got a carrier they did not want or need, and it just happened to be built in mississippi instead of virginia where they usually are built. There are a lot of redundant systems…stealth destroyers, the new stryker program…etc that just seem wasteful.

Now back to you, if you are all for fiscal responsibility, please tell me how to raise funds to pay for our debt, which tax would you increase

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

Kimberly, I quote from your 2:14 post:

Snopes.com confirms that our first lady did indeed kill a young man, reputed to be a recent ex-boyfriend, with her car on Nov. 6, 1963.

No misinterpretation pussycat. Your side has no agenda. This week it’s criminalizing accidents. What do you have planned for next week? Oh, wait, don’t tell us. We’ll just wait for the Sunday talk shows when the MSM and their guests repeat the weekly talking point ad nauseum.

BTW, I wish you would run for office. It would be fun to have someone other than Cynthia McKinney to vote against.

By Ricky

February 16, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

RE, all departments have R and D that research things that will never be used. I would say that there are many more programs that waste more money than the DOD. Welfare is horribly corrupt, the IRS is a money pit, and Social Security is terribly mismanaged. You know where we can raise runds, by eliminating pork. That would be a huge step in the right direction. We bring in enough money through taxes. There is no need to raise taxes. We need to curtail our budgets and stop pork and we will be well on our way

By RE

February 16, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

Ricky, you got me. I have been trying to hide it but I did write every budget for the last 5 years, however I do have Bill Clinton on speed dial and he helped me, so it is still partially his fault.

You know what the biggest problem is, it’s that most republican do think like you Ricky and do expect responsibility from the elected leaders, But would you ever vote for a dem. Most repubs would not because they have done an excellent job of stygimitizing the entire party. Why would the GOP put out a candidate who was not willing to “play ball” when they know they have 35-40% locked up without doing a thing.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

RE: Hey did you hear about 9/11 and the War on Terror? We like had to increase defense spending cause of it. It was really a bummer.

By kimberly

February 16, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

More freestyle interpreting, Sweetroll. I only clarified that no alcohol test was administered to Mrs. Bush when she killed that boy, as with Mr. Cheney, therefore it was NOT fair to insinuate they either one was drunk. Did I make a misstatement?

Hey, why did you threaten Candide when she posted her opinion? “Candide - You’re treading in dangerous territory here.” Are you violent? Do you like to threaten people in addition to making helpful comments on improving their personal and professional skill sets?

By John

February 16, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this

I would like to see a cartoon that shows a large terrorist. It should have a puppet stick in each hand. The threads should connect to some little demonstrators.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

Danish: kimberly likes to fire that mouth off before she’s checked to see who she has it aimed at. I think she gets real warm to her own ideas and, like, loses control. Careful, cause she’ll be blaming you for calling her on it.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

jimg -

If you’re going to insist on using the “Bush lied to Congress about WMDs” position, link to this.

It’s my favorite place to get a quick review of recent history, prior to Bush taking office. There are photos, videos, everything your little heart could possibly desire.

Now come back later and tell me again about that lying cowboy who used the poor gullible congress in his evil quest for world domination.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I think you jumped the gun on “jimg”. In some twisted form of gymnastic Civics he said the “legislative branch” lied to Congress.

By kimberly

February 16, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

Like, I could interpret that so many ways, Andy. You used the words “mouth” and “warm” and “loses control” in a message directed to Pastry girl. I could screech “Andy love’s Danish’s warm mouth and he just LOSES CONTROL!” Hey, it might be a lie, but it’s my interpretation, right? Like, that is SO COOL! Thanks for sharing your little trick; gonna try it in the writing class I just signed up for.

By Ricky

February 16, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this

RE, I voted for Zell Miller for both governor and senator. I would be proud to have Joe Libermann as President because I think he is a responsible and principled man. I never said you wrote the budget, I said we all know who did meaning this admin. I really don’t care about Bill Clinton. I think he was a terrible president, but am tired of talking about him. The comment you make about the GOP have 35-40% locked in is true for Dems too.

By RE

February 16, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Andy,

9-11 and war on terror spending is considered emergency spending and is not included in the budget. It is tacked on afterward

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Actually lil’ Kim, I was just alerting Candide that he might get shot in the foot after he put it in his mouth - like a good Samaratin.

But keep on twisting in the wind with your after the fact explanations of what you really meant. It doesn’t really matter, because no matter how you spin it, it’s still swill.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

Lil’ Kim - I’ve decided that it wasn’t really fair of me to quote you out of context, so here’s the uncut version from 2:14:

Candide, You’re treading on dangerous territory. Woooooooo… Be careful proceeding through stop signs from now on. Snopes.com confirms that our first lady did indeed kill a young man, reputed to be a recent ex-boyfriend, with her car on Nov. 6, 1963. However, no alcohol test was performed, just like with Cheney, so it’s NO FAIR to insinuate that she was drinking. (No test, no proof. No body, no crime. Don’t you watch Gretta?) I have no information as to whether she apologized for the incident. Careful Candide. It’s dangerous to bring up the past, you know. If you dare insinuate that anyone associated with the Great and Powerful Dubya might ever have transgressed during their perfect, sin-free lives, you are a traiterous pinko, didn’t the guardians of the sandbox make that clear? Duck! They’re going to kick sand in our faces now!

RW - Good catch. Jimg, I apologize for misinterpreting your WMD rant. You weren’t blaming the “executive” branch. Please forgive me.

By David200

February 16, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish (man - I wish I had thought of that nom de plume)

I don’t mean to give Sadaam a “get out of jail free” card. He was an evil tyrant. So what? The USA doesn’t need to get into a fight to get rid of “evil tyrants.” The reason is, where do we stop? The world is filled with evil tyrants. If Sadaam’s people hate him so bad, let them run him off. Our forefathers (and some mothers) defeated England with less than 15% of us in armed rebellion (risking their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor). It ain’t our fight. And I’m opposed to risking our citizens to do things for other nations that they are not willing to do for themselves.

As far as collateral dammage goes, it happens in every war. Once you make the decision to “let loose the dogs of war,” it’s gonna happen. I’m sorry, you can’t bleed for little children caught in the middle of wars. Wars are fought by “daddies” who kill other “daddies” (sorry lady warriors - just a point) before they get killed. Sometimes (many times) innocents get killed. Wars should only be fought when normal diplomacy fails and for sufficient reason. Our reason was 3000 dead USA citizens. Bin Laden and his ilk are guilty. Any country who harbors them should be trembling from anticipating our justice. Now they’re burning our flag and laughing at us.

Sadaam having WMD or not having WMD is irrelevant. Who cares? Let his neighbors invade if they care. We didn’t have a dog in that fight. We do with Iran. There have been Al Queda training camps identified in southern Iran, and they have been there since before we invaded Afghanistan. The camps have been there the entire time. Almost all of the Twin Tower murderers were from Saudi Arabia. There was our fight. This administration dropped the ball while going after the guy who tried to kill GW’s daddy. I’m sure his “advisors” were thinking they could use Iraq for a staging area for the Middle East for the other terrorist nations. Wrong - they already were working on one in Afghanistan. They simply blew it; plain and simple. It’s not rocket science. When you have a gun aimed at a bad guy (Bin Laden), shoot the guy dead before going after another one. Any combat officer would have been courts marshalled for that stupidity. You don’t take ground and then give it right back. We had enough soldiers on the ground to do the job RIGHT THEN. The entire “Arab Street” was depressed about how easily we whipped the Taliban. Ben Laden himself wrote some depressing “letters” about how he wanted his kids to not get involved in his Jihad so they wouldn’t get killed. Bush went off “nation building.” We re-elected a guy who should have been fired for incompetence.

The only justification was that the other alternative could have been worse. What a joke: Bush: “elect me because the other guy is probably worse.”

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

Spell checkers, that should have read, ‘Good Samaritan.

By jimg

February 16, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

BD: Ok I saw your link, it was a PR nightmare by the Clinton administration to try that town hall meeting. But guess what people said they did not want the war, and what a novel concept the administration did not go ‘making’ up evidence in order to justify them jumping into a war. Interesting concept.

RW: Yeah thanks for pointing out my slip, executive branch.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

RE: Dude, Homeland security? Airport baggage screeners? Increased “intelligence” spending? A reconfiguring of the military?

I really don’t see what the issue is to begin with, our deficit spending is at maybe 3% of the GDP? That’s not out of line and creates jobs. If we want to cut back on spending I suggest throwing the hurricane freeloaders to the wolves. No insurance, no rebuilt house, maybe next time you won’t build in a bathtub. Teach them a good hard lesson of self sufficiency, show their misery to all of the pinkos who think government was created to do everything for them.

By RE

February 16, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

I am saying that is the problem, that is why there is such stagnation in politics. Both sides have locked in voters who would never cross over, I would have to say that I think the GOP has done a better job of creating a base that will never vote against the party than the dems have. Getting responsible candidates means voting for the person, not the party. Welfare is corrupt, and the IRS could be improved, however as a percentage of the budget military spending far eclipses any of these. No one would dare vote against the military budget, why not make it corrupt

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

I guess we can reinstate your earlier objection to the latest refugee from the “Bush lied” branch of losers.

By jimg

February 16, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

Got to go. Drinks after work, cannot be late.

By Ricky

February 16, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

RE, appaprently you have forgotten the 80’s when Dems routinely voted against the military budget. You may be right though, politically it would be suicide to do so now. It is true that the DOD budget is huge, but I will argue that there is more corruption in the departments I mentioned earlier

By kimberly

February 16, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this

Danish, thank you for being our Lucko-blog Good Samaritan! You make this blog a special place… pointing out everyone else’s shortcomings with such kindness and a sense of purpose. In fact, I apologize for calling you Sweetroll. From now on, I’m gonna call you OPRAH! ‘Cause that’s what you are to me… my special Oprah friend who helps me see a better path. Oprah, will you direct me with your wisdom some more tomorrow?

By RE

February 16, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Good job bringing up one of the problems with the budget, homeland security. What a mess that is. Talk about pork spending. Does anyone her believe that Al Qaeda is waiting to attack witchita instead of metro New York, DC, LA…etc. Instead the duget is divided up based for all I can figure on voting power in congress instead of actual needs. So we have kevlar vests for bomb dogs in Kansas, and the ports in NY are now controlled by a company from the United Arab Emerites. Do you feel safer?

By John

February 16, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

Inside sources say the 12 hours of tape ABC has in its posession is going to crush the “Bush lied” crowd if the correct translation is provided to the public and the media does its job.

Of course many in the MSM will have a vested interest in going with the skewed translation some are saying ABC has had redone. It still looks like the correct one might get traction though. Stay tuned.

By buff

February 16, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

John

A lot of people will be out to quash those tapes and trying to discredit them

By RE

February 16, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

Ricky, in the 80’s I was watching carttons more than the news…but I digress.

There may be more corruption in welfare and the IRS, but it is on the end user side, the people actually fraudulently making claims. They should be prosecuted, but that is much more effort for a smaller piece of the pie. In the DOD budget the corruption lies much closer to the top, is easier to find, and yields a much bigger return fiscally.

By clark

February 16, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

John; The tapes are of the early to mid 90’s. In the early 90’s I used to own a beat up van and a dog and there are pictures that prove I had those two things. However if you go to my house now you will not find a dog in my house or a beat van in my garage…..I’m sorry please don’t hold it against me.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

Yep, Saddam sat around for hours with his staff of killers talking about wasting an American city or 2 with WMD even though all they had was a rubber band gun. Makes sense to you pinkos, don’t it? Hit the bong with your buddies and just talk all kind of crazy bs, right?

By John

February 16, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

Clark- But you surely must be one of those, along with Oliver Stone, who believes the Zapruder film implicates Nixon?

BTW-The correct translation is a smoking gun for WMDs. Sorry, but it’s a fact.

By RE

February 16, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

Finally, John found the WMDs everyone, lets hear it for John!

By clark

February 16, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

(A toast to John) John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John! John!

You found them, all this time they were right there on a tape from the mid 90’s. Its funny that we invaded because we were told they had WMDs in 2003. Oh but that’s just dumb details. the important thing is YOU FOUND THEM!

By RE

February 16, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

I see a presidential medal of freedom coming your way John, you deserve it

By clark

February 16, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

I think if you search enough there might be tapes from the late 80’s saying that Iraq was about to invade Kuwait. Maybe that should have been the reason why we went to fight in Iraq in 2003, the threat of it invading Kuwait. Yeah that’s it!

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

I guess since “My Name is Earl” will be preempted for the Olympics this will have to suffice as our “Karma” lesson this week.

By RE

February 16, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

Now that john found them, how do you think Saddam got all those nasty weapons….wait a moment…

http://members.fbx.com/cbrummer/politics/RumsfeldHussein.jpg

By John

February 16, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

Clark and RE-Thanks for the accolades! What prize do I win- A Bush Lied and People Died urinal target you guys must sell buy the bulk?

Just watch as the pieces are put in place. From the correct translation of the tapes establishing, yeeesh, yes, the earlier admittance of the weapons in the earlier 90s-gosh, bet you hate those pesky little tapes of Kerry and more on the senate floor, Clinton, and more, in 1998 condeming Iraq for WMDs too- to the removal to Syria of the weapons later.

It will all be spelled out . I’ll make a coloring book of it and send it to you if you have a hard time with it down the road. Chumps.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

RE & clark,

Enjoy your chuckle at John’s expense, but when you get done you may want to consider that if the tapes show that various WMD’s existed and weren’t found that we better get a little more interested in where they went.

By clarck

February 16, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this

Lets not forget Detroit gave the key to the city to Hussein, and the DOD gave him the weapons. We were very good friends once upon a time. Then he went power crazy.

By Daniel

February 16, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this

You right-wing knuckleheads always self destruct. You’re headcases. Name one thing of benefit you’ve ever done for our country? Try this: Pretend Cheney is a democrat. Ok? Got it? Good. Now, there is a shooting accident. Cheney swirls and plugs his partner. Then, Cheney is in hiding for 22 hrs. before the report. Why is he in hiding? Simple. He had been drinking when he shot the guy. He wanted the booze out of his system before he surfaced. (Chappaquiddick) Now, that wasn’t that hard, was it?

By clark

February 16, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

RW; What I offended you? I thought here we could just say what ever came to our head first and when it all fails and have nothing to say just pile on someone who disagrees with you and make fun of them like you, Andy and BD do? What? I haven’t even started making fun of typos or spelling mistakes? I thought that’s what was so fun about being on this blog. To tell you the truth I look up to you and was just trying to be like you, what? you are not flattered?

By finch

February 16, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this

John,

How do you know the translation of the Saddam tapes that you swear by is the correct translation??

1.I bet you haven’t heard the tapes.

2.I bet you don’t speak Arabic.

But you are good at covering your butt!! If the tapes “prove” Saddam has WMDs (in what?? 1995?), you’ll say you win! If the tapes show he didn’t, you’ll say they were altered by those nefarious Islamists at ABC. And you’ll say you win again!!

Loser.

The Saddam audio tapes do show that 6 years before 9/11, he said he warned the British and US about the threat of WMD attacks by stateless renegades

Well, whoopty doo. In 1995, everybody knew that the world faced a threat by stateless renegades with WMDs.

BFD.

By John

February 16, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Thanks RW-

What is going to be relevant here is that Aziz and Saddam are having a dialogue over how they are keeping seals on sites and how certain inspectors are p*s. That is probably what ABC is wanting to vett out! They are cutting and pasting according to others-including the lead fn translator of the US.

By clark

February 16, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

RW; when you get done you may want to consider that if the tapes show that various WMD’s existed

What? wait for real evidence before acting? That’s childish, that’s not what I have learned form this Administration. Act how ever you please, hope you find something, if not make stuff up. I’m just trying to be like Bush and you ofcourse.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this

Lil Kim -

You’re welcome -glad to be of help. Too bad you’re so opposed to alcohol. A nice cool drink would do you good. That’s my Dr. Phil side giving advice.

David 200 -

Your post is too long and rambling to tackle line by line, but I’ll just pick out a few of your statements.

Wars should only be fought when normal diplomacy fails and for sufficient reason

Diplomacy failed. Sufficient reason? We let him live after the Bush 41s’ Gulf War. He was supposed to comply with some rules that he agreed to in a plea deal.

Sadaam having WMD or not having WMD is irrelevant. Who cares?. Islamofacists all over the Middle East care and would like to have them. Dittoes, Iran and Syria. Oops, Syria may have “found” them. Hope they can keep a secret.

We didn’t have a dog in that fight. See failure to abide by his plea deal in bullet point #1.

By Typical Liberal

February 16, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

I am ignorant.

By typical conservative

February 16, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

I cannot think for myself.

By John

February 16, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this

Finch-All I can say is Wow…Umm..You must sleep with a lot of nightlights on.

BTW-Other rogue states having WMD’s is a non sequitur in relation to our resolution and policy and the paradigm we faced going in to Iraq. If you can’t figure that out, you probably look as stupid as you post.

And spend some years in MI before you lecture me punk.

By RE

February 16, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

I gotta find that urinal mat.

I will watch the tapes with an open mind, we will see what we see. I think it is a far different thing to talk about a weapon than it is to actually possess it. Lets break it down…Nuclear, no he definately did not have a nuclear program, he may have had a scientist, but without a reactor you are not going to get much farther than the drawing board. Chemical, without a doubt the ability to produce chemical weapons is very easy. Any highschool science class can create a chemcial weapon, all that is required is a library or internet connection, and some basic reagents. Biological, a little harder than chemical, but not very. In fact as a state, whoever the CDC equivelent in Iraq is can order any strain of virus or bacteria it chooses…from the CDC.

So as far as capability, any university or advanced highschool can produce chemical and biological weapons, having the capacity is not the same as production and weaponization. Find the stash of weapons, check to make sure they were not the holdovers from the 80s we gave them, and then you have your smoking gun

By mike

February 16, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

Liberals thinking for themselves? What a joke.

Conservatives debate policies and ideas. Liberals call people names and dream up conspiracy theories. That’s why conservatives run the country and liberals run the chat boards. LOL.

By Daniel

February 16, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

Clark: You are much too kind and rational. The dog-like devotion of these people to Bush blinds what little sense they have. The government pee’s on them and they think it’s raining champaign. The truth is a nuisance to them. Democracy is a pest. America an afterthought. It’s about them and their power. The rest of us don’t count.

By mike

February 16, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this

“If you’re not liberal when you’re young, you have no heart. If you’re not conservative when you’re older, you have no brain.” - Winston Churchill

By clark

February 16, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Mike; RW, Andy, and Buy Danish run this blog. But thanks for the input. You get a sticker for effort.

By John

February 16, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Thank you RE-for a breath of rationality among the skeptics in at least saying you’ll listen with an open mind. It’s bio man. Bio.

By Daniel

February 16, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

Mike: I love conservatives. Read the excellent piece in the Washington Post today by George Will. It’s the right-wing headcases that are the problem. Liberals have added immesurably to our nation’s greatness. Name one thing the Right-Wing has done for the betterment of our nation?

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

clark,

I have no idea how you could have read my comment and came away thinking I was offended. I thought it was pretty funny and it looks like John did too.

It was a simple comment that you may have more things to consider. If he had them we better find out how they were disposed of.

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

Daniel -

You prove my point. Liberal run around screaming that Democracy is dying in America. Why? Because you guys lost a few elections?

Your silly rhetoric is no replacement for ideas.

Besides, if you realy beleive that our democracy is in danger, what are you doing about it? Posting nonsense on blogs. If liberals really believed America was teetering on disaster, you should be dedicating all your time to effecting political change instead of whining on this board.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this

RW -

It appears that you have hurt Clark’s feelings. You know they hate it when you force them to face reality - even for a moment.

Thanks for the “Karma” lesson. I hope Lil Kim isn’t too busy with her writing course to read all about it.

By Winston Churchill

February 16, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this

A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:06 PM | Link to this

Lot of fanatics interested in the Cheney shooting “scandal”. And the 2000 election.And “Mission Accomplshed”. And Bush’s miltary service. etc.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this

Daniel: Hey what happened at (Chappaquiddick?)

The next several weeks are going to be a blast. When conclusive evidence of Saddam’s weapons program is brought to light, you will see the pinko nation spin like a top. You will hear all kinds of excuses like “How do you know those innocent villagers aren’t just tired and taking a nap in the middle of the street?” and “that wasn’t nerve agent pouring out of that artillery shell, no, it was Sprite, they were launching it as part of the Oil For Food Program.”

You will see pinkos dissappear without a trace, some will turn into “conservatives,” others will change their nicknames and come back as “I knew Hussein had WMD but Bush cried, children died! liberals.” They will, shockingly, be nice to Bush for a day or two, telling us he was misunderstood.

You will hear speeches about how some of them were against Bush before they were with him.

It should be interesting.

By clark

February 16, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

RW; No, no don’t try backpedaling your way out. Bush said in his SOTUS “Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”. What now we are changing our stance on that? When did this happen? I never got the Rep party bulletin on this? Are we already getting our NEW story ready, I thought after going for WMD, it was to defend the freedom of Iraqis, now its to find out where are the missing WMD’s have ended up (does that mean invadidg another country)? Very confusing or to take a term from the ‘04 election, seems you all are already flip-flopping……AGAIN.

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

You know there was a time when America was run by Democrats. Republicans didn’t call them evil and claim the end of democracy. Instead they organized poltically. They came up with a program based on policies that were appealing to middle America (even us dumb red-staters).

Maybe if liberals get over theri hissy fit over losing a string of elections, they will move beyond name-calling and scandal mongering to replicate the Republican return to power. Doing so would require disicpline and the instant gratification of demonizing those who are not wise enough to share your views, so I doubt they can do it.

By John

February 16, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

You just made my househo;d think I’m a hyena with your last post. LOL!

By RE

February 16, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

An actual Churchill quote

Never, never, never believe any war will be smooth and easy, or that anyone who embarks on the strange voyage can measure the tides and hurricanes he will encounter. The statesman who yields to war fever must realize that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events. Sir Winston Churchill

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Now you know full well the reality is they will suddenly point to all the quotes we have given them from the late 90’s and proudly proclaim that they had been right all along, but Bush mis-handled the situation and it is now far more dangerous.

You see they had the WMD’s contained, probably in a lock box, and then Bush scattered the weapons all over the place.

By Daniel

February 16, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

America is doing just fine, thank you anyhow. Name one thing the Right-Wing has done to better our nation? And, for starters, Bush is no conservative. In my view, conservatives: Balance Budgets, limit the size of government, limit the power of government, respect tradition (I.e. checks and balances, and congressional oversight ect,) When was the last time a republican balanced a budget? Bush presides over the greatest deficits in history, He is no conservative. True conservatives know and understand history. When was the last time a government successfully forced democracy on another? Answer. I will listen.

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Clark, you must be one of those fanatics that Winston Churchill described a few posts back.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 06:16 PM | Link to this

RW: They told Bush, told him about those weapons!

By clark

February 16, 2006 06:16 PM | Link to this

mike; yes….mmmm…..actually…..no.

Trying out that flip flopping technique of this administration.

By David200

February 16, 2006 06:17 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Yeah, you’re right. I have a tendency to ramble. Sorry.

To respond to those points:

I agree, he broke his word. Once again, so what? If we had of gone into Iraq at the end of Gulf War I, maybe. But we didn’t. I have conceded he’s a tyrant. Irrelivent. The chance he would give religious zelots weapons they could use against him approaches zero. Why would he give other whackos those type of weapons? Even the CIA said the chance approached zero. Even the “12 hour tape” conceeds that he wasn’t going to attack us, nor give his ‘vig’ to someone else. He knew we would open a can of “whupa$$” on anyone attacking us. He was contained, mostly. Yes, he’s a pain in the a$$. Yes, he kills people. Yes, he gave Hamas human bomber’s families money. Yes, he was causing us problems in the Middle East. No, he had nothing to do with 9/11. Our fight was,and still should be, with Bin Laden and his ilk.

Now, when we finish killing off every man, woman, child, and pet of the people responsible for 9/11, after we salt the earth of every place on the planet where these people once lived, after every person in every nation says, “Whoo-ee, anybody who messes with the USA gets killed! We better leave those guys strictly alone,” then, and only then, did we need to go after Sadaam.

We no longer have a military capable of a two-front war (and no, I don’t care who’s fault that was - keep your eye on Al Queda!). The simple fact is that Al Queda is the enemy that attacked us. Pakistan is the major force looking for Bin Laden now (that’s a whole ‘nother story). Before we go off fighting a new battle, we should have finished the first one by showing the world Bin Laden’s head on a stake.

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this

Daniel

Germany and Japan. Ever hear of them? If not, in the 30s they were dictatorsips that cpatured much of Asia and Europe, murdering 10s of millions along the way.

America and its allies defeated these countries militarily. We then occupied them and “forced democracy on them”. They are now the 2nd and 4th largest economies on earth, vibrant and stable democracies, responsible world citizens and staunch allies of America.

Seriously, ever hear of them?

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

clark,

2003 State of the Union, you must get your “facts” from Toni Locy. More here.

Now explain to me how saying the same thing two posts in a row is back-peddling?

By clark

February 16, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this

David200; Whose Al Qaeda? No, what we need to do is invade Syria and Iran, NOW! Haven’t you read what Ms. Ann Coulter said “Bombing Syria back to the stone age and then permanently disarming Iran” thats what we need to do. Who cares about Al Qaeda and Bin Laden it wasn’t like they were the ones who attacked us.

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

David200 -

If you remember Bin-Laden claimed that one of his reasons for 9/11 were the “millions” of Iraqi children who died due to sanctions. If you think keeping 25 million people locked on with a psycho forever wass making any friends in the Muslim world, you are confused.

Your Pakistan-al Queda analysis is skewed. American is still leading the fight against al Queda. Bin Laden is in Pakistan. I guess you think that we should have invadeed Pakistan by force, causng Mushareff to have to try to repel us or force his overthrow by conspiring with us, throwing Pakistan’s nukes into the air.

Your opinions are not well thought out.

By finch

February 16, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

“Find the stash of weapons, check to make sure they were not the holdovers from the 80s we gave them, and then you have your smoking gun”

Exactly right, RE. Contrary to what John-boy claims, the 1995 Saddam tapes don’t prove a damn thing. Keep in mind that the the US has had them for years, according to the guy who gave them to ABC.

“ABC News obtained the tapes from Bill Tierney, a former member of a United Nations inspection team who translated them for the FBI.”

Yuo’d think that if these tapes had “the smoking gun”, proving Saddam had WMDs, the Bush administration would have released them a long time ago.

You’d think.

John-boy, you sure use some purty words!! “Detente”. “Non sequitur”. A vocabulary can indeed be used to hide stupidity.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

Daniel -

You’re a conservative? So that’s the problem - Deficit spending!

What’s this “checks and balances” stuff? I keep hearing Harry Reid and others go on and on about this. Is there something in the constitution that says that we can’t control all three branches of the government?

By getalife

February 16, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this

Play the new Cheney hunting game!

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this

Clark,

You seem convince that we Bush is handling Iran and Syria wrong.

What is your proposed policy with each? I’d like to see if you can debate a policy logically or if you are just limited to silly flames.

By finch

February 16, 2006 06:28 PM | Link to this

RW,

I forgot that “My Name Is Earl” wouldn’t be on tonight.

Your link to Colorado “karma” almost makes up for it. Thanks!

By Daniel

February 16, 2006 06:28 PM | Link to this

Mike: Thank you. The Second War was fought to defeat the Third Reich and the Empire of Japan. Not to establish democracy, or force democracy on Germany and Japan. Does Pearl Harbor sound familiar? We went into Iraq for WMD. When that proved false Bush switched to a liberation of the Iraqi people. My question is a simple one. Whenever in history has one nation forced democracy on another? The answer is never. Thankfully, democracy has taken hold in Europe and Japan. It came after the alies destroyed the Third Reich and the Empire. And, 50 million people died. Is Bush a conservative?

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:29 PM | Link to this

Daniel -

You said “When was the last time a government successfully forced democracy on another? Answer. I will listen.”

I posted examples. Did you listen?

Can any liberal here engage in a factual debate?

By Daniel

February 16, 2006 06:30 PM | Link to this

Open your eyes, before you open your mouth.

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

clark -

In addition to getting your quotes straight, a sense of humor wouldn’t hurt. Are you related to Ramsey Clark? That could explain your dour demeanor.

David 200 -

I don’t have the energy to respond again. I thought I’d made my point, but if enforcing plea deals doesn’t matter to you, and only elicits a “So what”, then it is fruitless to continue on this thread.

By getalife

February 16, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

Seneca Rocks!

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this

Daniel -

Well, you are restating your question, but that’s OK.

I disagree with your analysis of why we went to war in the 40s and in Iraq, but that is irrlevant. Regardless of why the particular war was started, we have forced democracies on Japan and Germany.

BTW: Of the 50 million killed 40 million were in the Russian theater and 6 million were holocaust victims. What’s your point? Should we have let it be more?

By David200

February 16, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

RW I normally stay back and snicker when you zing a liberal, but I don’t understand your post on the State of the Union. I’m in the middle here, I usually get hit by both sides. I don’t weep for babies, but I’m still convinced we’re fighting the wrong guys. I’m proud of our military; I just think we could use them in a better fight against a better foe.

Direct quote from the State of the Union: “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.” I thought that’s exactly what Clark said the President said, wasn’t it? Which has now been confirmed as known to not be true. He claimed that the British government knew those facts, when in actuality the British Government had already dismissed those claims. I got to call that a winner for the other side.

By Andy

February 16, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

Well, actually, oddball gay finch is changing history around, again, to try and save face, too bad, he’s screwed on this one. We’ve been in possession of alot of papers, tapes, etc. since the invasion that our crack people at the CIA haven’t got around to analyzing quite yet, they’ve been busy doing other things.

By clark

February 16, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

RW; to backpedal: To retreat or withdraw from a position or attitude. ex “The senator later backpedaled on the issue”

Rep position on going to war. 1. WMD 2. freedom/democrazy in the middle east 3.oil (oh sorry, mental slip) 4. quoting RW “If he had them we better find out how they were disposed of.” 5. to come if #4 does not stick

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

Daniel -

Thanks for your witty zinger. Unfortunately, it still doesn’t overcome your feeble and illogical arguments.

By DavidU

February 16, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

Evening, fiery debate going on.

By David200

February 16, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

Rw:

Sorry I hit the wrong key. Buy Danish makes better points on Iraq. I disagree, but I see his points.

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:39 PM | Link to this

Clark -

Where’s your Iran policy? Surely you wouldn’t go critizing a polocy without knowing of a superior alternative?

LOL

By clark

February 16, 2006 06:42 PM | Link to this

RW; Already forgot that the British said that they had discarded that report as false? And yeah I knew where the SOTUS was, that’s where I got the quote from. but thanks for the multi-links.

By RW-(the original)

February 16, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this

clark,

I took your post to mean that I was back-peddling, I don’t know why I would have thought that:

RW; No, no don’t try backpedaling your way out.

David200,

You think that is the same as this?

Wilson’s revelations cast doubt on President Bush’s claim in his 2003 State of the Union address that Niger had sold uranium to Iraq to develop a nuclear weapon as one of the administration’s key justifications for going to war in Iraq.

She says it Bush’s claim. She says Bush said Niger had sold Uranium to Iraq. She said Bush had used this Uranium claim to go to war over Iraq’s nuclear weapons program. So she said the same thing, other than that?

By the way I don’t think your claim that British Government has dismissed this is completely accurate.

By clark

February 16, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this

mike -Yeah how about letting some kind of UN resolution at least be implemented before we throw 75 million at the problem. Seeing how the deficit is in such stable condition, lets just buy a 75 million dollar TV station while we are at it, to tell Iran that the US is good, and Iran is bad. and maybe give the military a chance to catch up from fighting 2 wars before we go into another one.

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this

Can any liberal give me an Iran policy alternative to Bush’s? Or do you all agree with Clark that Bush is doing the right thing?

By David200

February 16, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

mike,

“American is still leading the fight against al Queda.”

You made my point. We’ve got eye and ears looking for him instead of a couple of divisions. And yes, I would have sent in the army. Pakistan has no way to get their nukes to us. They would have ratted their sabers and shut up. Once we get a reputation of not taking and guff, bullies shut up and sit down. These guys understand “I have a gun and you don’t” really good. Remember the Taliban wanted to hold a radio and tv discussion with American children about Bin Laden’s views. They actually thought we wouldn’t do anything about the attack. Now they know we won’t follow through.

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:50 PM | Link to this

clark

So your policy is to continue to let the UN work. Which is what we have been doing. Asking 75 million to support internal opposition is a drop in the bucket and the policy worked in the Ukraine.

In general Bush is following your UN plan (the one that Hilary Clinton critized by the way) to a T. I agree with you that it is the way to go.

What if they continue to enrich uraninium. What is your next step?

By clark

February 16, 2006 06:50 PM | Link to this

RW; Becasue you have trouble reading. I don’t know. What do I look like your english teacher?

By Daniel

February 16, 2006 06:51 PM | Link to this

Mike: We didn’t force democracy on Germany or Japan. We went to war because we were attacked. What part of that is hard to understand? Feeble? Illogical? You’re kidding. What of the rest? Bush? No conservative, no fiscal conservatism, attack at will, huge growth in government size, unlimited power over us, CAD’s through the roof, endless borrow and spend…hello?

By Buy Danish

February 16, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this

David 200 -

Forgot to mention - I do appreciate your love of country. BTW, It’s “She” not “He”.

By mike

February 16, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this

Couldn’t disagree with you more. An invasion of Pakistan would be long bloddy war with millions of casualties. The cure would be worse than the ailment.

I agree that we have to demonstrate resolve, but the mission has to be acheivable.

By clark

February 16, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

mike; For all the talking Iran does, they were actually leaning towards taking the enriching uranium step from Russia. Then it all broke apart. I say try to bring them back to doing that.

By clark

February 16, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

mike; Besides it wasn’t my idea about going to war with Syria and Iran, I was quoting the great Ann Coulter.

By DavidU

February 16, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

New Cartoon.

By mike

February 16, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this

Daniel -

Please stick to basic logic. The cause of the preciptating war is irrelevant to your argument that no country had democracy forced on them.

They were dictatorships we forced them to write a democratic constition at the point of a gun. Why we did it is irrelvant to your argument.

Your silly, incoherant anti-Bush screed has nothing to do with your argument. Clearly facts and logic play little rolein the shaping of your views.

By buff

February 16, 2006 07:21 PM | Link to this

I have been perusing a lot of mediums (for you leftists medium is singular for media, which is a plural term not a soothsayer or wizard) today and I think the Dick-haters have lost again

Rasmussen’s poll shows independents agreeing with Republicans about the shooting as just as an accident

Even many of the silly leftist Democrats think that the accident reveals Cheney is unfit for office

You Dick-haters have lost this battle. Too bad for you they guy is going to love, but, go a salute Swimmer Kennedy

By buff

February 16, 2006 07:22 PM | Link to this

That should have been “live” but….

By finch

February 16, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

We’re doomed. Evil wingnut confirms it.

“Well, actually, oddball gay finch is changing history around, again, to try and save face, too bad, he’s screwed on this one. We’ve been in possession of alot of papers, tapes, etc. since the invasion that our crack people at the CIA haven’t got around to analyzing quite yet”

Right. Will it take another 3 years to get around to “analyzing” them?

Excuses, rationalizations, blamegames, outright lies… there are so many ways BushCo can escape responsibility!

The 1995 UN tapes of Saddam given to ABC don’t prove a damned thing, except how desperate apologists for the Iraq war can be.

By David200

February 16, 2006 09:21 PM | Link to this

mike,

I think you’re misunderstanding me. In fact, we’re both debating in a vacuum. We’ll never know which one of us is right. You could be, but I don’t think so. But for the sake of argument: I have a “friend” who was in the closed meeting of the intelligence community with President Bush when we were trying to find out about who attacked us. The guy said that the President was using a “number of four-letter words” describing what he wanted done to whoever was responsible (one of the few things I’ve liked about him. He may not be the brightest bulb in the box, but he has no problem pulling a trigger and accepting responsibility for that action - he is not indecisive). According to my friend, that information was presented quietly to other intelligence services. Bush was looking for blood. We then finally discover that we had been attacked by Al Queda. We go over and invade Afghanistan when the Taliban thought we would ring our hands and cry about what happened to us. Musharraf’s intelligence officers created the Taliban to provide fighters for them against India - according the MSM. Musharraf rolls over like a puppy dog to get on our good side. I’m convinced he looked at Bush and said he wanted nothing to do with going up against him as p*$$ as he was and joined the winning side. We then gave him money, etc to make it look good. I’m convinced as mad as Bush was, we could have offered him a beat up 1965 Ford Falcon, and he would have accepted it. I am convinced if we would have followed Bin Laden over the border with 2 divisions and stayed on the border for 3 weeks going from point A to point Z, we would have trapped him, killed him, and brought his head home on a pike. The entire “Arab Street” would have been in mourning and terrified of us. Musharraf would have beaten his breast in public about the “criminals” who violated his borders and promptly shut up. The only evidence I have to back that up is the Predator drone that blew up that “family” on the other side of the border of Pakistan when we got “#2” (again). Musharraf b*** and shut up.

We let Bin Laden get out of our sights to go after Sadaam. The Arab Street was moaning and groaning about how ineffectual the Taliban was against us. Now the Arab street burns our flag and cheers; people in Bagdad think it’s OK to kill American soldiers.

By David200

February 16, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish is a “she?” Woops! :)

By Eric

February 17, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

Why did America’s Liar, Rush Limbaugh announce to the world that Ohio Congressman Sherrod Brown is black? It’s a rhetorical question, Angela. The point is that you get your info from him and that’s why you’re always wrong.

By Richard Kanode

February 18, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this

Interesting that you think the Danish Editor crossed the line with the intent to offend people. I find your work offensive! You choose your targets by what you can get away with. If you had any guts you would do an anti terrorist cartoon deplicting Islamic extremists.

By Josh Ondich

February 18, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

Mr. Haliburton Dick Cheney shooting one of his political campaign donors Harry Whittington because he thought that he was a hunter. where did this kill the rabbit hunting technique get Dick Cheney no where. It sure did not sure get him quail. This is not the first time a poltical leader has shot their campaign donors and it won’t be the last. Bigger issues ahead for the 2006 mid-term elections. this was just a sideshow.

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