Mike Luckovich

By Andy

February 13, 2006 07:35 PM | Link to this

So what about Hillary’s poll numbers? Seems like the majority would rather be accidentally shot while hunting quail with a close friend then to vote for Bill’s “wife.” I would like to see that question asked by Zogby, pellets in the behind or pull the lever for the wicked witch of the east?

By DavidU

February 13, 2006 07:35 PM | Link to this

I expected worse. Funny, but expected more.

By buff

February 13, 2006 07:36 PM | Link to this

OK, that is pretty funny

I just wish the wimp could draw better

By buff

February 13, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this

Andy

i think that we may be spared a Hildebeast White House run, although it would have been fun

The problem with leftists is that they cannot hide from who they really are

Hillary: loves big government, hates the military, is an elitist snob -itch who does not give a damn about the “less fortunate;” just wants to use them for power

I despise her even more than her pretend husband

By Semper Fi

February 13, 2006 07:48 PM | Link to this

I’m sure it must be Bush’s fault. He order Dick to pepper the guy. Can’t wait to see Leno tonight.

By Objective Observer

February 13, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this

I’d rather hear a good lawyer joke!

By Clem

February 13, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this

5 years of daily lies and blunders is not enough to embarrass the Bush administration. Our heroic VP is “hunting.” The “hunters” ride in a limo. Several cars full of court jesters head up the convoy, searching for quail. When it is thought that a covey is spotted, vehicles halt, and the “hunters” step out of their limo. Someone else flushes the birds, and our heroes are already aiming. Cheney “had one bird in sight and was following it.” Cheney, his beady little eye/eyes on that bird…fires!! Hitting another braveheart in the face, neck, shoulder. It is decided to keep the incident yet ANOTHER secret. Cheney at once returns to safety in the Reichstag. And blames the orange-vested victim! God bless Mercuh!

By Steve

February 13, 2006 07:59 PM | Link to this

Buff - what is a stool like you to call ANYTHING a “wimp”?? You’re not even potty trained.

By buff

February 13, 2006 07:59 PM | Link to this

Holy Moley

Hooters is now in China

But wait

Have you ever seen a Chinese chick with a nice rack?

Isn’t that kind of like advertising White Water with no H2O around?

By buff

February 13, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

Hey, Steve, you want to go quail hunting? And, have you ever seem ml? Calling hima wimp is actually insulting to wimps

This is stellar: Capitalism is a coming….

http://www.accessatlanta.com/news/content/entertainment/stories/0212hooters.html

By getalfe

February 13, 2006 08:06 PM | Link to this

Cheney found a new way to torture his critics.

I bet he said something Cheney did not agree with.

By Semper Fi

February 13, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

Steve, Clem, I am going quail hunting this weekend, want to go??

By buff

February 13, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

get

Wait until SNL gets this, it is funny, I mean I am glad the guy is going to be ok, though

By getalife

February 13, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this

buff,

Cheney is going to get hammered on this one.

Whatcha drinking?

By buff

February 13, 2006 08:17 PM | Link to this

Semper

You think these cockroaches would get out of their gated communities and actually touch a gun? They also want to help “the poor” but would not raise a manicured finger to do so

They are cowards, hypocrites and bad Americans

Naw, they are not going to tromp around in God’s country, let alone touch a GUN, they kill people, you know

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 08:20 PM | Link to this

buff,

SNL isn’t new again until March 4th. This might be a little dated by then, too bad they would have done something really funny. Unlike ml who had this golden opportunity handed to him on a silver platter and managed that ^ ^ ^.

Do we even know if he missed? #28 bird shot can get scattered pretty quick.

By Semper Fi

February 13, 2006 08:21 PM | Link to this

Buff, you’re so right. I am trying to help by inviting two on a hunting trip. Just doing my part.

By buff

February 13, 2006 08:22 PM | Link to this

get

I had a cocktail, Stolly before dinner, and I think I will go watch a movie with my bride and have a glass of merlot

What you guzzling?

Cheney will get blistered, but, hell, he does not care

The media are hilarious. Watch Hannity tonight and view them at the McClellan press conference, they are such a*******es. The stupidity of the media is hilarious

By DavidU

February 13, 2006 08:30 PM | Link to this

Cheney is Darth Vader nothing phases him, he runs on Diesel.

I’m just wondering is there an age limit to go hunting? The guy was 78, I see 78 year olds have trouble driving around town, why is the man hunting? I know, I know its his right…it’s in the constitution…but still shouldn’t there be an age limit or at least be able to pass some kind of eye exam/test of coordination, something.

By getalife

February 13, 2006 08:30 PM | Link to this

buff,

Rum and coke for me and watching War of the Worlds.

Cheney’s got a gun, duck!

By DavidU

February 13, 2006 08:42 PM | Link to this

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Feb. 10 that he would bring the Marriage Protection Amendment to the floor for debate the week of June 5.

You have to love election years! Let the fighting begin.

By Semper Fi

February 13, 2006 08:46 PM | Link to this

DavidU, how do you fell about an amendment for marriage? I am for it. Should be interesting.

By TS

February 13, 2006 08:51 PM | Link to this

Friends of Cheney are HARD TO MISS … lmao :)

By Miguel

February 13, 2006 09:03 PM | Link to this

Love your cartoons Mike. You are very talented. Wasn’t sure you were such a flaming liberals though. And not too clever with your words. Stick to the drawings. I think theyr’re great even though I think your political leanings are misguided at best.

By buff

February 13, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this

DavidU

Cheney is 78, are you sure?

That is pretty old

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this

This didn’t take long

By DavidU

February 13, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this

SemperFi - I’m against it, it intrudes on states’ rights (Hey isn’t that a Rep thing…..), but more importantly it’s discriminatory, among other things :). But you are right it should get very interesting.

By finch

February 13, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this

I can’t WAIT to watch the “Daily Show” tonight!! Jon Stewart is going to have a field day with this. Steve Colbert, too. I love Comedy Central….

buff,

I think a Hillary candidacy is DOA. Too many Dems realize she’s a carpetbagging opportunist. They also realize that if Hillary’s the nominee, the Democratic Party is DOA. IMO, of course.

By DavidU

February 13, 2006 09:15 PM | Link to this

buff - No, the buddy he shot. Cheney is 65…ish

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 09:18 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

Article IV Section I of the Constitution keeps this from being settled as a States Rights issue. I’m not sure it’s that great of a discrimination case either, at least in a court room argument. Any man can marry one woman and any woman can marry one man, so a strict legal definition of discrimination might be a little hard to make. Of course, there are still plenty of judges that don’t really care about what the law says, so it has a chance.

By buff

February 13, 2006 09:19 PM | Link to this

finch

Yeah, Hillary tried to be mainstream and support the war, but the true power-brokers of the Dems are Moveon.org, Soros, etc, and i doubt that they would support her

It is a shame, I want two, or more, responsible and reasonable, parties to run the country’s politics

The Dems are out of touch

But, I do not have the time to rant on the GOP Bozell is on Hannity

I hd to leave the Wife’s movie, I can only watch Forrest Gump that much, reminds me too much of Bush :), just kidding

By Objective Observer

February 13, 2006 09:23 PM | Link to this

Thanks R.W., I just put in an order for one of those bumper stickers. You have made my day!!!

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 09:26 PM | Link to this

OO,

You’re welcome. They have them in black & white, too

By DavidU

February 13, 2006 09:31 PM | Link to this

RW - I’m not sure it’s that great of a discrimination case either, at least in a court room argument

It specifically targets same sex couples by preventing them from getting married. It would go against the constitutional right of equal protection.

By buff

February 13, 2006 09:32 PM | Link to this

OK

tech wizards, please paste me a link of the four presidents remarks at CSK’s funeral, doing some research

By Midori

February 13, 2006 09:34 PM | Link to this

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh come on Mike — you can get much “rawer” than this!!!

Luv it anyway!!!!!

By Midori

February 13, 2006 09:36 PM | Link to this

Finch,

the Daily Show is a repeat tonite. I looked it up.

I think since Jon’s daughter was born, he’s taking it easy.

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 09:36 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

I probably should have said equal protection, but the fact remains that any man has the right to marry one woman and any woman has the right to marry one man. So everybody is being treated the same, some would like to change that. I’m not really sure I care one way or the other, but there is no equal protection violation.

By devil doll

February 13, 2006 09:37 PM | Link to this

snow day! i’m back in atl for a while.

buff, i got sprinkled with bird sh-t, too once.

finch, elect devil doll for pres in 2012.

rw, we’re riding up to your place with a keg of pbr. party at rw’s!!!

By finch

February 13, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

RW,

The Cheney bumper stickers are a stitch! Heh heh! I’ll order one for my Mom.

But seriously, your best gunplay link is reposted here.

I’ve seen better AC-130 video. But this one’s quite stunning.

Harry Whittington must be so glad Cheney wasn’t at the trigger in one of those!

Heh!

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

buff,

Look around in here.

By buff

February 13, 2006 09:45 PM | Link to this

D-D

Bird shot is not nearly as painful as a wound, even superficial, if there is such a thing, from an AK 47

Man, that burns

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 09:47 PM | Link to this

finch,

Somebody e-mailed me that as an attachment that opened in windows media viewer. It looks much better in WMV, but I haven’t been able to get it into a file I can post. So I found that on google video.

Do you know any handy tricks for that?

By devil doll

February 13, 2006 09:49 PM | Link to this

buff, maybe i should read these things more carefully. i was thinking about a time when a bluejay crap-ped on my shirt before class. kind of embarrassing. i guess getting shot would be kind of worse.

isn’t bird shot kind of like pellets, though?

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 09:50 PM | Link to this

DD,

They stil make Pabst? I’ll leave the light on for you.

By Semper Fi

February 13, 2006 09:54 PM | Link to this

DavidU, sorry hate to run an errand. NAMBLA is with you on the discriminatory thinking.

By devil doll

February 13, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

rw, i was trying to find some hams for the old timers - just joshing.

partying is a problem here lately. nobody wants to get drunk and get loud.

guess who’s getting snake skin boots and spurs for v-day? if you guessed me, you’re wrong. i’m getting dog chains, too.

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

DD,

Shouldn’t you wait for the whole boot/spur/dog-chain getup before getting drunk and loud?

from the land of sky blue waters

By finch

February 13, 2006 10:00 PM | Link to this

RW,

No, I’m computer literate, but not that computer savvy… heck, YOU’RE the one with the blog!!

Hiya Midori!

By buff

February 13, 2006 10:06 PM | Link to this

RW

CM is a true idiot

DD

I got creased in the side muscles during the Battle of Firebase Ripcord, not life-threatening at all, but, the pain was shocking to me

Bird shot is smaller than B-Bs, very fine. You use an open choke shotgun, which is a wider barrel than a full choke, which is used for game like ducks and turkeys, where you also use heavier shot, such as #6, #4, or even #2, which is buckshot, or 0-0, which is double ought buckshot.

Pant, Pant, about to have the Big O

I am sexually aroused; gun talk does that that to me, just kidding, sort of

By DavidU

February 13, 2006 10:10 PM | Link to this

SemperFi - That was a low blow…LOL

By Semper Fi

February 13, 2006 10:11 PM | Link to this

DavidU. Sorry, just making a point that we all draw a line somewhere. I don’t see a problem in keeing the line where it is.

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 10:13 PM | Link to this

buff,

I’m going to take a wild guess that you mean Chris Matthews because of my link. That section of the site I linked you to has 1,182 videos of various speeches and news stories.

I know the video of Carter and Clinton at the CSK funeral is there.

By DavidU

February 13, 2006 10:13 PM | Link to this

SemperFi - Thats what some say about the NRA, “have to draw the line somewhere”.

By devil doll

February 13, 2006 10:13 PM | Link to this

rw, where did you find that old ad? i have an old pbr girl poster. i guess i can’t get to drunk, though. i’m supposed to go jogging tomorrow.

buff, what is “ripcord?” my old man talked me against getting a 30/06. he says quail hunting is more womanly. maybe a 410 or something is the route for me.

By buff

February 13, 2006 10:15 PM | Link to this

DD

Our V-Day plans

Man, i am exciting, ain’t I?

By Midori

February 13, 2006 10:20 PM | Link to this

tsk, tsk, tsk.

Buff - I had such high hopes for you.

“Hannity and Colmes”????

bleh

[video archives of all the speakers at the King funeral can be found here - bottom right]http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/noadsindex/kingpage.html)

By finch

February 13, 2006 10:21 PM | Link to this

buff,

You’re cool… low key, sophisticated, warm, fuzzy and comfy… oh yes, and romantic.

I bet you’ll get lucky. You’re not dead yet, are you?

By Semper Fi

February 13, 2006 10:21 PM | Link to this

DavidU, and that line has been drawn. I can’t go buy me an M50 or 60 tomorrow, if I wanted one. I would like to have a real M16 with the rock and roll lever. Took many a shower with an M16.

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 10:21 PM | Link to this

dd,

These folks are awfully fond of beer ads.

By devil doll

February 13, 2006 10:24 PM | Link to this

buff, i think that sounds like a plan. getting lucky doesn’t have anything to do with being old. i bet your wife is glad she has somebody like you around. sometimes just knowing a man (or woman) is there, is all it takes.

i’m listening to waylon jenning’s luckenbach, texas, right now. just get back to the basics of love. that’s all that a woman wants. a little attention and you’ve got us for another year, or so.

By devil doll

February 13, 2006 10:25 PM | Link to this

rw, sweet. like, 420.

By Midori

February 13, 2006 10:28 PM | Link to this

let me try that again

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 10:29 PM | Link to this

finch,

This is what we need. It must be some futuristic computer that puts whatever you are thinking on the page by pressing one button.

By Semper Fi

February 13, 2006 10:34 PM | Link to this

[this is got nothing to do with anything. I just thought it was really neat]{http://www.steelcitysfinest.com/HondaAccordAd.htm)

By devil doll

February 13, 2006 10:35 PM | Link to this

well boys, ya’ll have a good mighty v-day. i know you fellas got it going on. i’m making shrimp creole (i know, out of season).

take care and next time i talk i’ll be wearing my new kick a— boot. i’m dying my hair next week, too. say goodbye to dd the brunette.

By Semper Fi

February 13, 2006 10:35 PM | Link to this

Well crap. Now why didn’t that work?

By Midori

February 13, 2006 10:37 PM | Link to this

Semper Fi,

because you used { instead of (

By Semper Fi

February 13, 2006 10:37 PM | Link to this

I am trying again. this is got nothing to do with anything. I just thought it was really neat

By buff

February 13, 2006 10:38 PM | Link to this

Midori

Just kidding about H and C.

We will watch some movie I hate, like “Out of Africa,” or God forbid “You’ve Got Mail,” or “When Harry Met Sally” and I will rub her feet and feed her dark chocolate and champagne and she will fall asleep by 9;30 and I will switch to a college basketball game

finch, thanks

DD

But, I am lucky being married to the niecest person I have ever known. Makes me feel good knowing that a woman loves me that I would take a bullet for (sorry about using a preposition at the end of a sentence, and sorry about being a grammarian on a blog; goes with my job)

Gotta run, interview tomorrow, need to be sharp

good night

By Semper Fi

February 13, 2006 10:39 PM | Link to this

Thanks Midori. Looked the same on the keyboard.

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 10:39 PM | Link to this

DD,

I really liked you as a brunette.

By RW-(the original)

February 13, 2006 10:42 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I would never have thought to look on the AJC for the videos, thanks. Do any of them work? My browser window crashes every time I try to look at one.

By buff

February 13, 2006 10:49 PM | Link to this

Last post

Thanks Midori for the link. you and I disagree about most things politically, but I betcha we could be buddies

finch, you take care

DD

Great album, and I make the best shrimp and corn chowder going

Getalife

Have another one, you deserve it

good night

By Midori

February 13, 2006 10:58 PM | Link to this

RW,

The only other place that I know of who has the video archive is CSpan, altho it looks like the elder Bush speech isn’t there

By Midori

February 13, 2006 11:00 PM | Link to this

RW,

I just found Bush Sr.’s remarks.

Watch the elder Bush praise a ‘purposeful life’ — 0:37

By finch

February 13, 2006 11:05 PM | Link to this

Midori and others,

“The Daily Show” is most definitely NOT a repeat. Jon Stewart is leading with the Turin/Turino controversy.

NOT!!! heheeheeeeheeheehehehe!

By Greg

February 13, 2006 11:06 PM | Link to this

As an avid hunter you cannot blame just the VP it was just as much the other person’s fault for walking into the area of fire without letting it be know where he was.

I can already hear the anti-gun folks calling to ban all weapons. Before they do they need to look at statistics and see just how many people have this exact same thing happen.

By Midori

February 13, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

Watching now, Finch and LAUGHING MY A* OFF!!!!!

This is so funny.

But one thing Finch — hat range where Cheney was hunting is the type where pen-raised birds are set in an area convenient for the “hunter” to “hunt”, like fish in a barrel.

By finch

February 13, 2006 11:13 PM | Link to this

Midori,

You’ve probably seen & heard it already, but Jon and Co are making a big deal out of the limo hunting of farm raised birds….

And for further entertainment…

The Smoking Gun has more on the Cheney birdshot incident

Note that TSG, always fair and neutral, notes that “Cheney’s been a straight shooter since his two drunk driving arrests.”

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy!!

By Midori

February 13, 2006 11:16 PM | Link to this

bwahahahahahaha

great find, Finch :D

By Mike Parker

February 13, 2006 11:22 PM | Link to this

NEVER ever hunt with rude partners.

No one shoots while someone else picks up downed birds.

It’s rude. It’s dangerous.

Pretty much, anyone who can’t help their hunting partner spot and find downed birds is an a*.

Anyone who doesn’t help their partner spot and find downed birds and then SHOOTS THEM lacks personal values that can be taught by hunting.

Why did the Secret Service refuse law enforcement access to the Vice President for 24 hours? A little problem with alcohol and guns? Maybe a little problem in the weeds?

Why didn’t Cheney ride to the hospital with his buddy? Why hide like a coward? Too drunk?

Aaron Burr and Dickless Cheney… the two vice presidents that shot people while in office.

Historic.

At least Burr fired on command and hit what he was aiming at.

By finch

February 14, 2006 12:12 AM | Link to this

Midori,

This is for you!

(runs and hides from Cheney fans)

By Dusty

February 14, 2006 12:16 AM | Link to this

Well, it is about time those poor liberals get some party time. And here it is!! Somebody got hit by birdshot!! Could anything be more exciting than that? It’s doubtful. For liberals, that is.

Now the question arises: Can liberals handle that much excitement? Just don’t let anybody use a slingshot. That might push them over the edge.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 12:31 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

This is one thing the Dems could really have had some fun with, but they still can’t help using lies and innuendo. I have heard that this was “buckshot” at least 100 times today. I guess it wouldn’t be hard to field dress a quail that you just blew out of the sky with buckshot. Not many meals come from half a feather, though.

The other is this Cheney must have been drunk theme. That will have them patting each other on the a-ss on blogs, but will lose the rest of the people.

By Dusty

February 14, 2006 12:46 AM | Link to this

RW,

Like you said, this could have been a little fun. Luckovich was pretty dull. I think if Chaney was saying “UH oh” or SOMETHING—oh well. Guess that wouldn’t make a POINT.

Drunk? I hate lies.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 01:10 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Remember when they tried to pretend this Republican was speaking at the Democrat convention? He was a Green voter. Too liberal even for a Democrat, but they figured the name would fool people. These moonbats will never figure out who it is that really lives in a bubble.

By Dusty

February 14, 2006 01:23 AM | Link to this

RW,

As tis said, “Doesn’t that beat all?” He doesn’t have half the brains his father had. A Green voter? I thought his speciality was ballet. Maybe you can be both. He’s a little green around the gills in political innuendo.

Guess I’d better close up shop. G’nite.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 01:29 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

I was surprised you hadn’t already turned in. Some of the comments in my link speculate on the choreography.

Goodnight!

By lee christensen

February 14, 2006 01:56 AM | Link to this

I wish Cheney would go to Iraq and getr shot.

By lee christensen

February 14, 2006 01:58 AM | Link to this

Coward Cheny should go to Iraq. Maybe he would get shot

By Andy

February 14, 2006 04:46 AM | Link to this

You want to talk about the culture of corruption:

The two audits found that up to 900,000 of the 2.5 million applicants who received aid under FEMA’s emergency cash assistance program — which included the $2,000 debit cards given to evacuees — were based on duplicate or invalid Social Security numbers, or false addresses and names.

Of course it’s FEMA’s fault. It’s like GIVE ME THE MONEY! GIVE ME THE MONEY! NOW, RACIST! Hey, your an idiot for giving me too much money. WHERE”S THE REBUILDING MONEY, BIGOT!

By Andy

February 14, 2006 04:59 AM | Link to this

So much for that “civil” war:

No deaths from terrorist or insurgent attacks against Shi’ites were reported in this year’s Ashura celebration, a marked improvement over the more than 50 celebrants killed and 150 wounded last year in six suicide attacks targeting Ashura celebrants. Military analysts attribute the calm during Ashura — the Shi’ites’ holiest day — to increased and more effective patrols by local Iraqi security forces, weakened insurgent capabilities and a tightening of Anbar province’s border with Syria.

By candide

February 14, 2006 06:03 AM | Link to this

Cheney is the closest thing to evil we have in the government. Let’s show him the way out, like Spiro Agnew.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 06:16 AM | Link to this

Why must liberals lie about everything?

OUR OPINIONS: Gun bills spell danger

Georgia has the most lenient gun laws in the country, and suffers higher rates of gun deaths as a result. In Atlanta, for example, 73 of the 112 murders and 1,717 of the 3,116 robberies last year involved a firearm, according to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports.

Atlanta homocide total for the last year before more lenient gun laws introduced: 196’

Do pinko libs like to see people get murdered? Why do they always come down on the side of criminals and killers? Do they think you should be fair game when you have to venture into their city? Are liberals to stupid to realize the lower murder rates are a direct result of more armed citizens?

By candide

February 14, 2006 07:09 AM | Link to this

Andy, have you always been a s.o.b., or did it take a lot of work to reach that state?

By Andy

February 14, 2006 07:38 AM | Link to this

Candide: For popping the pinko bubble I am an S.O.B? Would you like me to soothe everybody’s alternative reality with some liberal B.S?

By AntiRadical

February 14, 2006 07:38 AM | Link to this

What’s so funny? This is just the same disregard for responsibility, accountability, and lawful order that the Bush/Cheney administration has demonstrated to be their CORE values for 6 years, now. Expecting these nobs to take responsibility for anything at all is like expecting the proverbial cow to jump over the moon. The smell of Napalm and charred flesh in the morning isn’t so bad. The smell of the bullsh-it seeping from the White House spin doctors is absolutely stifling; morning, noon, and night!!!

By buff

February 14, 2006 07:40 AM | Link to this

Andy, Dusty, RW

Yep, the leftists should have fun with this, but they will screw it up royally, as they do everything else

It was “an accident” Not quite as serious as Swimmer Kennedy, though

By aurelio23

February 14, 2006 07:44 AM | Link to this

READING KARL ROVE’S MIND Our brave Vice President saves the day for freedom, democracy and prosperity! Was the lawyer connected to AlQuaida? What was his last e-mail message? To whom? Is he a decadent liberal? Does he listen to NPR? Than Goodness he was only a lawyer!

By Mrs. Godzilla

February 14, 2006 07:46 AM | Link to this

22 hours……i guess as you get older it takes longer to sober up!

By Monica's Man

February 14, 2006 07:56 AM | Link to this

candide, everytime I ready one of your posts, I want to puke. You are one worthless piece of S**t…

By Edd Williams

February 14, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this

I guess that your name just rhymes with what you are as a lucky coincidence Mr. Luckovich!!

By Lewis Marks

February 14, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this

You hit the nail on the head, that’s the exact attitude shown by this administration. Its putrid!

By xdallascowboy

February 14, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this

When I first saw the Cheney hunting story I couldn’t help but recall a hunting trip that I took with a reserve QB who also happened to be from Texas. He invited me on a “Texas style” deer hunting trip and unfortunately I went. After getting into his pickup truck he handed me a rifle and gave me a very brief block of instruction. He next reached under the seat and brought out a bottle of Wild Turkey and took a drink from the bottle and passed it to me. This trip consisted of driving Texas backroads shooting out the windows at deer in pastures and fields between gulps of the Wild Turkey. At some point he finally hit something and when we got out to bring the deer to the truck my fellow “hunter” to my horror used wire cutters to cut a barbed wire fence. I know that the Cheney hunt wasn’t like that but something about Cheney being associated with it brought back the memories. Cheney is alot like LBJ and I really don’t think much is beyond either of them. Anyway I was very thankful to get home that day in one piece and never went hunting “Texas style” ever again. Have a good one folks.

By regulator

February 14, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

Gosh why are all of you Neocons so afraid of Hillary?

By AntiRadical

February 14, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

Maybe the Vice-President had a “Brokeback” moment out there in the country; fresh air and all that. He must have just reached for the wrong “gun” to use on his “buddy” and didn’t realize that Valentine’s Day wasn’t until today, anyhow. Hugs ‘n Kisses Dicky C, you animal you!

Meanwhile the President’s “Great Iraqi Welfare Program” keeps going and going and going and…Aren’t we great, in only 4 years we have taught the Iraqis how to hold their hands out with the best of them. Now THAT’S progress. I see the strategy, now; fatten ‘em up with hand-outs till they’re too spoiled to fight anymore- VICTORY(We just thought that the President didn’t have a strategy).

By candide

February 14, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

monica’s man: are you one of those characters in a Lynne Cheney dirty novel?

By candide

February 14, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

The neocons hate Hillary because they know she will be even-handed in the Palestinian-Israeli dispute. Then all tend to be extreme supporters of the Likud and of Israeli expansionism.

By Dick Morris

February 14, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this

Anti-Radical, the person that the cons are most afraid of is John McCain. He is what scares the wingwacks more than Al-Queda. He is a moderate Republican and true conservative. Just the fact that he is the runaway front runner indicates that the bulk of the Republican party has had enough of this administration and their neocon ways. The 06 midterms will also be an indicator. Hopefully after midterms Bush/Cheney will be lame ducks and can’t do more harm.

By Eric

February 14, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

Hillary is head and shoulders above anyone the repugnicans can throw at us. That’s why they hate her so much. It’s the same reason they hate Bill and love Dubya. Bill and Hill make them feel inferior and Dub makes them feel intelligent. They have it half right. They are inferior to Bill and Hill, but they’re probably about even with Dubya.

By Richard

February 14, 2006 08:45 AM | Link to this

Just like the Iraq War, Cheney chose to fire first and then search for reasons why. At least this time only a lawyer was hurt and not over 2,000 American lives needlessly lost due to the vice president’s efforts to build up his ego and machismo.

By Monica's Man

February 14, 2006 08:52 AM | Link to this

ERIC, A woman does not have what it takes to be president. They don’t have the balls….and I think you don’t either

By James E.

February 14, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

It is very sad AND sick when the ultimate draft dodger uses the blood of better men and women than he to convince himself that he is a big bad man. Somewhere copies of his 5 deferments exist. Maybe someday someone will obtain them and shove them up his sorry chickenhawk a-ss.

By Lloyd

February 14, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

Maybe now Cheney understands why Teddy Kennedy was slow to report his accident.

By Wanderer2

February 14, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this

Has anyone else ever wondered why when the country is run by draft dodgers and deferment collectors that we always wind up fighting somebody, but when real warriors occupy the white house that we tend to have periods of peace?

By AntiRadical

February 14, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this

Hi DM: I agree,so far McCain looks like the best shot the country has. Wouldn’t it have been a lot different America today if he had secured the convention in 2000? We can only hope that the public doesn’t label Bush/Cheney as conservatives when they are truely far right radicals. I’m too damn old to go through another 60’s-80’s style liberal backlash against right wing extremism.

By PinkoLiberalTerrorLover

February 14, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this

Maybe if he didn’t dodge ‘Nam he’d know the difference between a friendly and a defenseless, witless, poor-flying bird…

By Dick Morris

February 14, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

Yes Anti-Radical we would definately be much better off today. And isn’t it amazing how during the primaries Bush’s campain did their best to drag McCain through the mud. Used every vile smear they could invent. It is a very sad national commentary when men like Bush and Cheney can trash a man that served his country in combat and spent time as a prisoner of war. John McCain faced the most formidable air defense system in the world at that time in the skies over Hanoi while men like Bush and Cheney ducked and ran for cover. After the mudbath that these two wannabe bada-sses gave McCain in the primaries is it no wonder that Colin Powell’s wife wanted no part of a run for the presidency? We need men like McCain and Powell more than at any time in our history. Real warriors who understand what is being asked of those who have to do the deed are what this country needs. Not morally bankrupt cowards who don’t care about the blood of others. This has been one of the sorriest chapters in our entire history. 2000-2008 will forever live in infamy.

By mike

February 14, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this

All of this yapping is just porrf that liberals are just looking for reasons to attack Bush & Cheney, regardless how irrelevant they might be.

Liberals can keep on drawing cartoons and calling names. Conservatives will continue to rule the country. Now that is something that makes me laugh! Kudos to liberals for not having any real positions on any real problems!

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

RW - Thanks for the Dana Milbank link, hee hee. I’m going to try to stay on topic with today’s “You made me miss” cartoon and all the buzz about birdshot. Do you recall - did Milbank ever appear on MSNBC wearing a blue dress? Remember that accidental shooting that took place right outside the oval office?

Milbank also has a place in my heart for exposing “turkeygate”. I almost hate to bring this up and remind our opponents of the shameful incident involving W, so shhhh, I’ll try to keep it quiet and whisper this one. Milbanks devoted an entire Post column to this rarely discussed, yet highly shameful bit of Presidential scandal:

When Bush made his surprise Thanksgiving visit to the troops in Iraq, there was a ton of footage that captured Bush carrying a turkey on a tray to serve to the hungry troops. But, and this is the shocker, the turkey that sat on the tray wasn’t actually the same turkey that the troops were eventually fed.

No wonder the Left hate W. How could he be such a lying liar!

By PinkoLiberalTerrorLover

February 14, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

Dick Morris- You’re right. Mccain is the only Repub I’d feel somewhat comfortable voting for (and I’m a minority). He doesn’t have “corporate whore” stamped on his forehead. Although he served his country he’s not in favor of arming the military to the teeth while slicing away Medicare and student loans. And he at least appears to not be consumed in partisan manuevering and nastiness. He also doesn’t court the hypocritical Bible thumper crowd.

In short, he doesn’t have a snowball chance in hell of getting the Repub nomination…

By Dick Morris

February 14, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

You’re right mike. Conservatives (real ones) will LEAD (rule intones monarchy)this country. Unfortunately that will have to wait until 2008.

By Monica's Man

February 14, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

Hey Dick Morris, you been laid lately?

By Dusty

February 14, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

Oh, now Buy Danish,

Let’s talk turkey in Iraq, now that you have let the cat out the bag or rather the turkey. You know that turkey was drunk as a coot, shot with buckshot, was wired by NSA and was carrying a banner that read” Let’s Roast Hillary Instead”. Bush did the only thing a brave man could do. He ate it himself.(Would not accept a PURPLE HEART.) So there you have the true facts as reported by no one. Of courwe, liberals will not believe it. But, as you know, they are turkeys too.

Yeah, I know. This field is baited for liberals with corn.

By Midori

February 14, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

Finch,

unfortuately, I can’t access that link here.

I will have to wait until I get home.

By Tim

February 14, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

Cheney wanted to see how fast the paramedics he travels with went to work WITHOUT having a heart attack.

By Midori

February 14, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

I just heard that Mr. Whittington is back in intensive care.

By finch

February 14, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this

This isn’t ending anytime soon…

Letterman’s Top 10 List

Even Jeb Bush is taking pot shots (I couldn’t resist!) at Cheney.

Stop him, before he hunts again.

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

Dusty - Dana Milbank’s Turkeygate column has been wiped clean off the Washington Post’s archives.

This whole quailgate episode reminds me of another turkey of a hunting trip, remember the goose hunt that Swift Boat participated in? The W.P. still has this story available - Kerry Hunting Trip Sets Sights on Swing Voters

Later Cheney jokingly referred to it as an “The October Surprise” and Swift Boat’s foray into the world of alpha males didn’t convince voters of anything, except to confirm our suspicions that he is complete phony.

By Midori

February 14, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

Finch,

Letterman’s best joke last night: “We can’t get Bin Laden, but we nailed a 78-year-old attorney.”

By Dusty

February 14, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I guess it shows that ALL liberals are not turkeys. There’s a goose or two among them.

Well, back to the party. Having no “works in progress” such as supporting the country, liberals will hang on to this little mishap a long time.

By finch

February 14, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

Danish,

I’m a regular Dana Milbank/Washington Post reader, but don’t recall any column he did on President Bush’s Thanksgiving in Iraq…

Maybe you’re thinking of this?

Meanwhile, the White House has joined the Cheney get your gun cavalcade.

Midori,

You’ll enjoy the link. It’s in exceedingly bad taste.

By Midori

February 14, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

you remind me of one of those antebellum Southern women.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

At 8:30, regulator asked “gosh, why are you neacons afraid of Hillary?”:

Because she is a bald faced socialist? Because she will take everything the hardworking successful people have and give it to the sorry freeloading liberals? Because under her and her “husbands” direction and influence a once decent political party has detoriated into the worthless gathering of immature lunatics that come up with “policy” statements like this:

DEMS UNVEIL ‘08 MESSAGE: ‘YOU’RE FAT!’

I like my money? Isn’t that good enough for you pinkos?

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Midori - I heard that that joke was Bin Laden’s favorite too, so you and Letterman are in good company.

Dusty - You’re right - look how long they milked potatogate. I just wish someone would come up with a good joke about Al Gore pandering for petrodollars in Saudi Arabia. Cheney sprays a lawyer with birdshot, while Sore Loser sprays ammunition to the Arab street.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Here’s the Dana Milbank story that “finch” doesn’t think was written.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

Well actually that was his follow up. The “turkeygate” story itself is stubbornly hiding.

By kimberly

February 14, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

Dusty said: (2-9-06, 9:53 PM) “I think it best not make judgements on the lives of others. To do so just shows the cracks in our own.” Yet she still makes unkind generalizations about people she never met, and never chastizes Andy for his constant flow of putrid personal attacks.

I ask the good readers: Is this HYPOCRACY? Or is it merely a God-sanctioned double standard, the terms of which need to be explained to us common folk more fully? Just curious.

By finch

February 14, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

RW,

I never said I didn’t think Milbank wrote it. I just said I didn’t recall seeing it, but I knew the WP thought it was a story.

Thanks for ferretting it out.

What’s with the “s?? A “term” of endearment?

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

RW - That was a follow up story - The original has been deleted, but here’s a blogger link that talks about turkeygate: Dana Milbank can’t let go of turkey of a story

By BigDaddy

February 14, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

Is this HYPOCRACY? - kimberly

kimberly, no, it’s not. Frankly, I have no idea what “hypocracy” is. If anything, perhaps it could be construed as “hypocrisy”…

Didn’t you say you were a writer?

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

This blog has a few excerpts.

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Kimberly, “HYPOCRACY”? Does that have something to do with “Theocracy” mixed with “Hypocrisy”? Girl - you should be proud of yourself, you’ve invented a new word!

Dusty - I would take that antebellum woman comment as a compliment. Beats being the crunchy, bra-less, hairy legs and sandals prototype that is a progressives’ paragon of the female sex.

Re Turkeygate, The NYT also had to do a correction after the fact because, goaded by their sister publication the W.P., they reported tht the turkey was a plastic turkey. Now THAT would have been a real scandal. Damn!

By Andy

February 14, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

By kimberly

and never chastizes Andy for his constant flow of putrid personal attacks.

Putrid? I’m putrid?

By James E.

February 14, 2006 08:54 AM | Link to this

It is very sad AND sick when the ultimate draft dodger uses the blood of better men and women than he to convince himself that he is a big bad man. Somewhere copies of his 5 deferments exist. Maybe someday someone will obtain them and shove them up his sorry chickenhawk a-ss.

By BigDaddy

February 14, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, do you speak any Danish?

By Andy's Mom

February 14, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

I like my money? Oh Andy, how sweet. I thought you didn’t appreciate the $2.00 a week allowance I give you to stay out of my panty drawer. You really are a good boy in spite of your, well, difficulties.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

By kimberly

and never chastizes Andy for his constant flow of putrid personal attacks.

Putrid? I’m putrid?

By Andy’s Mom

February 14, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

I like my money? Oh Andy, how sweet. I thought you didn’t appreciate the $2.00 a week allowance I give you to stay out of my panty drawer. You really are a good boy in spite of your, well, difficulties.

By kimberly

February 14, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

Andy, Buy Danish is about to help you out with your grammar as she did with my spelling. The use of “putrid” in the sentence modified the personal attacks which constantly flow from you. In order for “putrid” to modify you, it would have to appear closer in the sentence, such as “Andy is putrid,” or “Putrid Andy, in another rambling misstatement….” etc.

Thanks Sweetroll, for pointing out my spelling error. I have too much sugar on the brain today, I guess..

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

James E - By “ultimate draft dodger” are you referring to Bill Clinton? Do we really want to dig up that can of worms? Is he “The Warrior” who presides during times of peace. Ho ho ho.

RW - That’s still not it. I think I’ll send a little note to the Post’s ombudsman and ask them to re-post it in the name of balance and fairness after hid little agent orange appearance last night. He looked like he’d stepped off an old SNL set from “The Great White North” skit days.

finch - It really did happen - I remember sending Milbank a note asking him if he was joking when he wrote the story.

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

oops - “hid” should have read “he made”.

By Andy's Mom

February 14, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

Oh, Andy. You are so sweet to your momma today. Posted my love for you again so nobody would miss it. You really are a good boy.

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy - no, just eat them, but I do speak and write English.

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Ah, be careful what you wish for, my Democratic friends. I can see Cheney’s problems actually being a plus for the GOP. Don’t you know that many in the party would love to find a way to have him bow out in the next year or so and let GWB hand-pick a successor who is younger and more popular (Chuck Hagel? George Allen? Mitt Romney?) If he did, the GOP could avoid a nomination fight in ‘08 while Hillary, Edwards and (wait for it) even Gore are tearing each other apart. Perfect scenario for eight more years of GOP rule in the White House. If I were a Democrat, I WANT Cheney around.

By finch

February 14, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

Danish, I never thought you were making it up. Honest! And it truly was much ado over nothing. The story, I mean.

I do recall the NYT “plastic turkey” story.

Oops!

By Pink Salmon

February 14, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

Old McLefty had a farm, eieio. And on that farm he had some turkeys. eieio. With Midori over here, kimberly over there, here a lib, there lib, everywhere a turkey lurkey lib lib. eieio.

Bow to the Salmon.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

kimberly: I’m a-ssuming guilt by association; why even bother pointing it out? Does the pettiness just overwhelm you?

By Andy

February 14, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

Encore! Salmon!

By BigDaddy

February 14, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

Dr. R - interesting scenario, but what are the chances of Cheney retiring? There haven’t been any indications as of yet that would lead one to believe that to be the case. And who would replace him?

Speculation is fun…

By NEWT

February 14, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

You are right on the money Dr R. That is similar to what my good buddy Trent Lott was thinking when he wouldn’t let the Senate finish the job on ole William Jefferson Clinton. Didn’t want Algore running as an incumbent. Threw Hutchison and the House impeachment managers overboard but saved us from a Gore presidency. The dems need to pray that Bush keeps Cheney so that the stench from this administration will be fresh in the nostrils of cons and rats alike come election day in 08. Now if GW will just dump him before midterms. He’s not that smart unfortunately.

By birdgard

February 14, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

Mike. Jay Leno beat you out on this one. The paramedics arrive and start loading Cheney. He says “No, it’s the other guy”

By kimberly

February 14, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

Andy, Dearest, oh wise one… does the pettiness overwhelm me? When I come here to be enlightened by you and RW and the gang, and to obtain a greater understanding of my fellow Americans, yes YOUR pettiness overwhelms me. To be fair, I guess it IS more fun to sing songs and jump up and down on the bed screaming “lib! lib! pinko lib!” than it is to actually have a meaningful, enlightening discussion. Funny too, how the good Christian folk like Dusty will smack MY hand if I say something personal, but then applaud you for your putrid attacks every day. I’m just trying to understand this magical double standard. I wish the good honorable patriotic folk would explain it to me, so I’d how to stay in my rightful place.

By BigDaddy

February 14, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, me neither. I was just wondering from whence your screen name.

Actually, I do know a few Danish phrases that some wanton Viking lasses taught me years ago on the other side of the pond. But those are mostly descriptive phrases of natural (and unnatural) acts involving various combinations of leather, carpentry, a saddle and a menagerie. Or something like that…

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I think I got it. I had to fool with the URL to get it to look for the printer friendly version. If there are others I think I’ve broken their code.

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

If this thing blows up any worse (pardon the pun) — say, if the old guy were to check out — Cheney would take one for the team. I’d be hard for him to hang around after he killed a guy, even as an accident. He might bow out anyway; he’s rich, he’s not going to run for president, so why not retire a year or two early and shoot more quail? Bush can go with a young guy who might appease the right but wouldn’t tick off the center (Romney is perfect, albeit a little too blow-dried). The GOP in Congress would fast-track the thing, filibuster or not, and we’d be back to where we usually are before a presidential race: the GOP united behind one strong, well-financed candidate and the Democrats split all to hell and scrambling to catch up.

Y’all should be nicer to each other; it’s Valentine’s Day, and we should be more welcoming to the bright and lovely ladies who habitate this post every day. If you didn’t have folks to disagree with you, what fun would this be?

By Monica's Man

February 14, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this

Dr R, the bright and lovely ladies who habitate this post every day I bet they are all nasty skanks who dont even shave their pits and legs. They are all Liberals ya know.

By BigDaddy

February 14, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this

Dr. R, the problem with Romney is that he’s a Yankee - the Republican base, predominantly Southern as it is, won’t support a Yankee (due to the recent unpleasantness of 140+ years ago). And obnoxious Yankees baseball fans.

No, in your scenario, you’ll have to look below the Mason-Dixon…

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

RW - Nope, when you click on the link it tells you that it is no longer available. In protest, here’s the note I just sent to the WP’s Ombudsman:

“In the interest of fairness, can you please re-post Dana’s classic “Turkeygate” column from 2003? You remember - when, in all seriousness, he criticized the fact that the turkey that Bush carried on a tray for the Thanksgiving Iraq visit was not the actual turkey that the troops ate?

Please re-post it! Many of us are trying to find it but it has been removed from your archives. Curiously a follow-up story that appeared weeks later is still available, but we want the original. In order to fully appreciate Dana, we want to see him on MSNBC in his agent orange outfit, AND read some of his great works.

I trust that your archives will be duly refreshed.”

Finch agrees that it was a stupid story, but it would really help if we could make it available to everyone to enjoy.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

I think I met some of those same Danish lasses back in ‘96 at Bill Campbell’s flea market.

You should know you can’t say “Viking” without the Kitties coming out to play.

By Ricky

February 14, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy, Romney is originally from Utah. He is not a “Yankee” per se, although he resides there now. And as we have seen other the past several elections, governors turn out to be much more successful than politicians already in Washington

By Monica's Man

February 14, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Do you idiots talking about the turkey think that one turkey could feed all the troops anyway?? Of course it probably was not the turkey fed to the troops. that one was for the officers.

you libs are trying to make something out of nothing. But, whats new????

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Ah, no, my friend. It’s the Dems who have to pick a Southerner to get white, male votes from down here. A conservative Yankee will do just fine in the South; you think we’d vote for Hillary over Mitt? Southern states supported Nixon, Reagan and even Dole though none had Southern roots. And a GOP candidate from the North would be more competitive in the blue states, forcing the Dems to work to shore up their Northeast base. Plus, it’s be easy to toss a Lamar Alexander or Haley Barbour on the ticket for a little balance, if needed.

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy - Be sure to check out RW’s viking kitties. How did that song ever become a hit without the visuals to go with it?

“Buy Danish” was in response to the Danish cartoon intifada. I suppose I’ll have to change my blog handle eventually, but everyone knows me as Danish. Thinking that “Margaret Thatcher” has possibilities…

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I posted the whole thing here. If I fool the URL it comes up, but you can’t pass along the link.

Note: That doesn’t count as shameless blog pimping!

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

Monica’s Man - You need to go back to the beginning of the thread. It was I, a silky-legged conservative, who brought up Dana Millbank’s turkeygate.

P.S. George Allen in ‘08!

By buff

February 14, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

I was scrolling through AM posts, and someone asked why we “hate” Hillary. I cannot answer for others, but from me

She is a fraud, a leftist, anti-military hack, who runs from who she is

She is like her despicable fake husband: She thinks the government GIVES us our rights

She prefers government to individuals

That whole “It Takes a Village” is just a, well to use Andy’s language, a “pinko” argument for government over people

She is a RUTHLESS, lying b-itch

By Dean for President

February 14, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

A good parody could also be made of the “Viking Kitties” if they transposed Dean’s face on the lead singer.

By BigDaddy

February 14, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this

RW, BigDaddy loves Viking kitties…

Ricky, Utah, Massachusettes - what’s the difference (kidding). I agree the next president will be a current governor though.

Dr. R, I don’t think the Democrats will bring out a traditional “Southern” candidate. And Hillary’s bonafides as a belle were never in doubt - she has none - everyone knows she’s a carpetbagging Yankee opportunist. I’m betting dollars to doughnuts Bill Richardson from New Mexico gets the nod. He’s not a Northeastern elitist and he would sew up the Hispanic vote.

As far as Southerners voting for a conservative Yankee, you’re probably right; I just don’t see one getting the party nomination…

By Whitney H.

February 14, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

By Monica’s Man

February 14, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this

Dr R, the bright and lovely ladies who habitate this post every day I bet they are all nasty skanks who dont even shave their pits and legs. They are all Liberals ya know.

They must be your kinda women Monica’s Man. No wonder you love this blog so much. You can sit around in your dirty boxers drinkin Bud, belchin and fartin and scratchin your a-ss and all the while be flirtin your little heart out with your kinda gals. Camelot for cretins is yours Monica’s Man.

By Ricky

February 14, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy, Bill Richardson would be a formbidable candidate. As would former the former Virginia governor. Either way in order for the Dems to win they have to realize their folly in the last two elections. Whether they will or not remains to be seen

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

RW - Okay, I’m a big supporter of blog pimping, but where did you post it? I don’t see it and even searched your blog under “turkeygate”, but came up empty.

By Monica's Man

February 14, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

Whitney, my post must have hit home with you. LOL

By Whitney H.

February 14, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

Now look what you’ve gone and done. Flushed buff-oon out of his glory hole.

By BigDaddy

February 14, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this

Ricky, indeed that is a tall order.

Dean for President, are you one of the fellas who got a “Dean for President” tatoo? LOL (ouch, I just made myself cringe - BigDaddy loathes web abbreviations…)

Buy Danish, if you ever feel compelled to change your screen name, go for something grandiose. BigDaddy is a fan of self-aggrandizement. As well as third-person self-references…

By kimberly

February 14, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

Monica’s Man & Danish, I sense some stereotyping going on here. My legs are also smooth, silky and “buff” (you don’t own that, B) and I am often berated for not licking up the “conservative” rhetoric. (Not sure what you people are “conserving” beyong your own fantasies and prejudices, ‘cause it sure isn’t freedom, money, values, or the environment.) Anyway, the hairy-leg comment is a PERSONAL assumption and attack, so where is Dusty, guardian of right and just, and keeper of all that is good?

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

It should be the very first post. Sometimes when you return to my page you have to hit refresh to see the latest items. (Either that or somebody REALLY doesn’t want you to read it.

By Andy's Dad

February 14, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this

Look, you drunk, drug-abusing lying bi-sexual whore, leave Andy alone

If you continue to attack him I will tell all the bill collectors where you live

Plus, I will post a picture of your 350 pounds of blubber on this blog

By Whitney H.

February 14, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this

Want a date beer belly? I’m your kinda woman Monica’s man. Or are you Monica’s beeetch.

By buff

February 14, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

Richardson would be a good pick for the Demas, if he can get the nomination

Huckabee for the GOP might be a strong candidate, but those Arkansas governors…

By Monica's Man

February 14, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this

Sorry Whitney, I would not even think about dating a liberal woman. I did one time and she kept getting her Birkenstocks caught in the ceiling fan.

By BigDaddy

February 14, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

buff, President Huckabee? And, yes, this country has absolutely had its fill of Arkansas governors…

By Voice of Reason

February 14, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this

Gotta love him! Let’s just hope that thriving economy helps out a little!

By Andy's Mom

February 14, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

Stop being bitter my dear X. The judge gave me custody of little Andy because of your…well…your difficulties. Thought I could help that chromosome imbalance that you passed to him during the breedin. Sorry the way things turned out though. I want you to know that the day I found out that you were having that, uh, same sex affair was the most traumatic day of my life. Good luck with your domestic partner. Tommy seems like a really nice guy. I guess I failed with Andy though. He’s a chip off the old block, unfortunately.

By Mad As Zell

February 14, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

I think that this past weekend’s accidental shooting by President, I mean Vice President Cheney sends a strong message to terrorists everywhere: try something again and VP Cheney will personally make sure this happens to you, only with a much higher-caliber weapon like a 1,000-pound-or-more mega-bomb (sorry, I meant Vice President Cheney).

By candide

February 14, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this

Has Cheney seen Brokeback Mountain?

I wish I could quit him.

By Whitney H.

February 14, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

Monica’s Man, honey. Which trailer park did you say you was in. I’m really hot to come over baby. Don’t worry you studly con hunka murican man. You don’t have to even take your bi-weekly bath. I like it nasteee!

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

It seems like there was a different one than the one I just put up. That was just doesn’t seem as over the top as the one I remember.

I found another hidden Milbank story from December 5th, but it only deals with “flightcontrollergate”. If you have a URL for a different story that comes up error, I think I can extract it and post it.

By Dusty

February 14, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this

Well, look who is back? Dr R (our Valentine) and Big Daddy (our linguist) But excuse me a moment while I speak to Midori who grew up in Ante-bellum times. I am Southern, Midori, so I cannot post the name that I would apply to your postings.(Manners!) Monica’s Man, are you kidding? I’m not a liberal. Poor, picked-on Kimberly, you are kinda right about Andy. He makes his own rules to present his strong convictions. You do too. Sometimes very nice ones. Sometimes.

Now, I will finish my lunch. Wish it were Southern fried chicken. I am saving the plastic turkey for dinner.

By finch

February 14, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

RW,

I don’t think the Dana Milbank column in your blog is the (mythical?) Turkeygate piece. It’s his take on Bush’s visit to Iraq being a “big moment”, like his standing atop the WTC rubble and “Mission Accomplished”.

?????

buff,

The reason many Dems abhor Hillary has little to do with her platform at any given moment. It has a lot to do with how easily and often that platform changes.

Intelligent, politically savvy people of all stripes tend to disdain inconsistency.

By Voice of Reason

February 14, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

[We’re about to get a lesson in “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you(r war)!]

The administration’s announcement Tuesday followed news last Friday that America’s trade deficit with China rose to $201.6 billion, the largest deficit the United States has ever incurred with a single country.

By Voice of Reason

February 14, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this

Although, China may not be so bad after all!

By Midori

February 14, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

LOL

Yeah, manners.

uh huh.

Well, get ready for this, manners or no: I say that because you remind me of one of those women who dutifully defends her husband, all the time he is having all of his fun in the slave quarters.

Manners.

By Voice of Reason

February 14, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

Oops! Forgot this at 1:32

By Midori

February 14, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

P.S. Dusty,

I give as good as I get.

I respond to insults.

I don’t go looking for trouble.

Big difference between you and me.

By WashingtonState

February 14, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

I don’t think that the “liberal press” is really that gleeful about the hunting accident itself. However, the futile attempts at information management are definitely funny. I can just imagine the phone calls: “Uh, George, I just shot a man.” “Gee Dick, I gotta run that by Karl. Don’t say a word to the press until I get his spin on this.” and so on. If the administration had not been so intent on information control for the last 6 years, the hunting accident would probably just be a blurb in the papers. And then there is the question of who is involved. Probably the most secretive man in the administration. Admittedly, the whole thing is childish, but when we have an administration that insists on controlling every bit of information given to the press and the American people, any chink in the stone wall evinces great interest.

By buff

February 14, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

finch

Right, Dems need to just be what they are

But, so does the GOP, the so called party of fiscal responsibility

By Monica's Man

February 14, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

Midori what do you know about husbands? Maybe seen them on a sitcom?

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

Man, you’ve never lived until you’ve had a hairy-legged hippie girl in Birkenstocks. Organic!

Richardson might be VP fodder for the Dems, but he won’t get the nod. Why? Cuz he’s got no game. Amid all the Hillary hype, don’t count out Edwards. He’s a smooth-talking Southern populist who can woo a crowd. It’s 2006; you got to have some TV mojo these days just to get to first base with the great unwashed.

By Andy's Dad

February 14, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

OK, here is Andy’s mother. I hope you are not eating. And, yes, I turned gay, wouldn’t you?

http://static.flickr.com/33/50125370_cd8647fd4d.jpg

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I really don’t like Dana Milbank stories clogging up my main site so I am posting them here.

By buff

February 14, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this

Dr. R

Yeah, Edwards is oily smooth, but not politically astute, like Billy Clinton

I think she is done but, hell, maybe Hillary can be “The Comeback Chick”

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this

RW - Here’s the URL: (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33090-2003Dec3.html)

By kimberly

February 14, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

Dusty, I was hoping you’d step up to the plate and stand behind your “convictions.” Then I might actually respect you. Too bad. I guess I’ll look elsewhere today for a lesson in what good honest Americans stand for. Not much here beyond putrid personal attacks. Never stop learning, kiddies!

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

It’s too bad we can have a reasonable discussion in here like grown-ups without resorting to these playground insults. Intelligent people comfortable with their own views and identities don’t feel the need to lash out at those who aren’t the same. Your insecurities are laid bare. Grow up and add something intelligent, else you’ll all have this blog to yourselves while the rest of us play elsewhere.

By Dusty

February 14, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

Buff & Dr. R,

What happened to Obama? They made a big fuss over him at the DNC. Then he disappeared. Too innocent to play dirty politics?

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 02:04 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

That’s the Mike Allen story that finch linked to at 11:40.

See finch, no “‘s.

By buff

February 14, 2006 02:04 PM | Link to this

Dusty

Could be, scuttle is that he is an independent thinker and Dingy Harry will never allow that

Obama will have his day, though, maybe in ‘12

He is charming and charismatic, but, he is still a liberal

By Dusty

February 14, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

Kimberly,

I was going to step up to the plate and challenge Monica’s Man to a duel. But I had to finish eating lunch. Besides, wasn’t he referring to somebody else? Anyway, happy Valentine’s Day. I shall be sweet and kind, just like Dr.R suggested. (But only today.)

By kimberly

February 14, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

You’ll be sweet and kind? I don’t care. You live and speak by a double standard. That’s UN-American. Your credibility is nil.

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

Obama’s still a little young. You throw him into the fire too early and he gets trounced, you ruin his potential. His day will come. This next race is all about who stops Hillary: Will it be Edwards or will Gore come out of hiding and get after it? I think he will; he’s been more high-profile of late, and I don’t think there is any love lost between he and the Clintons. Remember, Nixon got edged out by Kennedy and faded away, only to return eight years later. I can see Al doing the same.

By AntiRadical

February 14, 2006 02:25 PM | Link to this

The 78-year-old lawyer who was shot by Vice President Dick Cheney in a hunting accident has some birdshot lodged in his heart and he had a “minor heart attack,” a hospital official said Tuesday.- AP 2/14/06 [I thought the administration told us that this was just superficial wounding from a little innocent “birdshot”- like most everything else about this administration, the truth has little relation to their version of events.]

Meanwhile:

President Bush’s spokesman quipped Tuesday that the burnt orange school colors of the University of Texas championship football team that was visiting the White House shouldn’t be confused for hunter’s safety wear.

The president’s brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, took a similar jab after slapping an orange sticker on his chest from the Florida Farm Bureau that read, “No Farmers, No Food. I’m a little concerned that Dick Cheney is going to walk in,” the governor cracked during an appearance in Tampa Monday.

Hah, hah, snicker, snicker! It’s such a knee slapper when you can shoot someone in the heart and cause them to have a heart attack. Yuk, Yuk, Yuk!!!

By Jimg

February 14, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

For those who say McCain is “the” conservative for 2008. Isn’t blocking gay marriage one of main points of conservatives? McCain voted against the House Joint Resolution back in 2004 that pushed for a Marriage amendment.

By William

February 14, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

Mike obviously does not know a thing about Quail hunting. He innacurately has Cheney dressed in Camo. In quail hunting, the goal is to be visible so quail hunters wear bright orange vests and hats to give away their presence to their fellow hunters. That is why this guy got shot. It wasn’t Cheney’s fault, the other guys wasn’t being responsible and did not inform the hunting party he was approaching them. Just a few thoughts.

By Dusty

February 14, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

Dr. R, Democrats wouldn’t really push the wooden Indian out in front of the store again, would they? Gore has all the charm of firewood. When he was in the White House, the claim was that he was spending most of his time on the phone raising money for the party. Gore said that he had a private line so it wasn’t a White House phone or something like that. He looks like a good solid man but one who ought to be plowing the back forty for spring planting.

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

To my mind, there is nothing conservative about telling someone else how to live their life. That term doesn’t mean what it used to, apparently.

By getalife

February 14, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

Business as usual

By buff

February 14, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

Dr R

Naw, algore may run, but Edwards would trounce him

You are right about this: no love lost between the Clintons and Gores

By finch

February 14, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

Dusty, It was fun watching Obama being taken to the woodshed by McCain last week. He’s young and he’s learning. Who knows? “Gore has all the charm of firewood”. Ain’t THAT the truth.

buff, Edwards is just a little too oily. Maybe shallow too.

I was thinking former Va. Gov. Mark Warner might be a contender. But I don’t have much company.

“At just 3 percent in a recent poll asking Democrats nationwide to rate their presidential preference, Warner has become an unknown overnight.”

‘Course, the GOP doesn’t have a front runner either.

By Dick Morris

February 14, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

The best the Democrats have is Joe Lieberman and even though he has appeal to the moderates in the party, the neo-libs will see that the party stays out in the ozone. In that regard they are with the neo-cons. But the cons won’t be able to stop the McCain express. If they somehow manage that McCain and Lieberman should consider running as thirds.

By buff

February 14, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

finch

Yeah, Edwards is oily, but that “Two Americas” resonated well

By finch

February 14, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

“A BB pellet that hit Harry Whittington, the friend whom Vice President Dick Cheney shot on Saturday, has migrated to his heart, causing a “minor” heart attack” (Fox News)

BB pellet??

This mess would be really funny if hospitals weren’t involved.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

finch,

This guy finds it funny, unless he’s actually serious.

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

Oily works, man. It ain’t about the steak but the sizzle. That’s why Lieberman didn’t register last time and won’t again. He’s a bright guy, thoughtful, not too extreme, but just not dazzling enough. It’s about electing a national knight in armor, not someone with brains or decision-making ability. I mean, look what we wind up with?

By Dick Morris

February 14, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

Being a Conservative is about more than gays, guns, and abortion. It is about fiscal responsibility as well.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

kimberly, our blog’s very own self appointed Miss Manners, weighed in earlier with this sentiment:

To be fair, I guess it IS more fun to sing songs and jump up and down on the bed screaming “lib! lib! pinko lib!� than it is to actually have a meaningful, enlightening discussion.

So this leaves me guessing that kimberly’s definition of “a meaningful, enlightening discussion” would be anyone who either comes in here saying sweet, delightful, happy, cheerful things about Bill Clinton’s “wife,” someone who would call a Conservative an idiot or a person who is so possessed by a fellow blogger that they resort to stalking them and devote their whole entire existence to that person, however weird it may seem to the general public, such as, let’s say 1:43 for example.

Would I be correct in my assumption? Should I forever more gush niceties about all the different raging, vein bulging, moonbat pinkos, so that I don’t cause your panties to wad up?

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

Guns, maybe, because that’s in the Constitution. The other stuff affects my life not. Kill your baby, marry your boy cousin, marry your girl cousin, makes no never mind to me. Just don’t overtax me and stay offen my propitty and we’ll git along jest fine.

By Dick Morris

February 14, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

Dr R I,m afraid that you are right. The dems will run the same old lame horses. That is THE problem with that party. Hillary can pull a good percentage but is way too polarizing to win. The repubs will have a situation where those that don’t necessarily vote FOR the repub candidate will vote agsainst Hillary. Combine that with those that vote for the candidate and repubs win. The dems have got to find a new face. Every single one of the same old likely suspects is carrying way too much baggage.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

Ahhh, Hurricane Relief!

Audit: Katrina, Rita victims used funds for erotica, guns, liquor

FEBRUARY 14—Some victims of hurricanes Katrina and Rita used federal assistance money to pay for “adult erotica,” a pistol, strip club fees, and at least one $450 tattoo, according to a new government audit.

Barbara Bush was right! They are “livin large” off the racist’s money!

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

RW - I can’t find this danged thing, so I hate to admit it, but I guess I confused one Washington Post writer with another. Imagine that! Just don’t anyone call me a liar for being mistaken. Anyway, turkeygate did happen, that is undeniable.

Kimberly - Re the terrible stereotyping that is going on here about liberal women, in all fairness I need to point out that there are at least 6 different distinct types:

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

Problem with both parties is that you have to placate the far wings to get the nomination. Meaning if you’re a Dem, you have to go way left to get nominated, then back toward the center to get elected; same with the GOP, right then center. Most reasonable people are off the far right and left wings, but most reasonable people aren’t the party faithful turning out to vote in the Iowa caucuses. The wings are where the money is, too. That’s why we wind up with such bozos to choose from.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this

Danish: Mary Landrieu is a hot little pinko, where does she fit in?

By Glenn

February 14, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

I love it..all the Republican neo-cons are intimidated by Hillary. Is it her fault that she is well-educated, well spoken (unlike Dubya who butchers the English language), and articulate? Hillary is going to make one heck of a PRESIDENT!! GO HILLARY, GO!!!! WOOOOO-HOOOO

By Andy

February 14, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

I think if you were to see who is really “intimidated” by Hillary that would be her “husband.” That might be why she can’t never find him.

By Mad As Zell

February 14, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

Dick Morris: Liberman as the best candidate for the Dems? He’s a moderate guy who talks as if he has some sense it’s just that you can’t win primaries when you put crowds to sleep or when you fall asleep about a quarter of the way into your speech, with the boredom factor it just wouldn’t work. It would be the best sleep I ever had though.

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

Andy - she’s outside the mainstream, but okay we can make her type # 7: Cute, kinda babyfaced member of entrenched Lousisiana political family, threatens W but pulls her punches.

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

Good Afternoon. I see there is some healthy ‘08 candidate debate going on.

By buff

February 14, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this

Danish

remember this: fat girls need lovin’ too

Flenn

Run Hillary run, I hope she does

By Steve SC

February 14, 2006 03:39 PM | Link to this

Ten will get you twenty that Cheney is out by the end of the year (health problems). Dubya will tap Condi Rice as his new VP. This will pose hellacious problems for the Democrats - unless they put Obama on their ticket as VP.

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

Hillary really isn’t all that articulate, nor is she a very good speaker. Compared to Bill, she’s got no game at all. In fact, other than the name recognition, I’m not sure what Democrats see in her. She’s an empty pink suit, if you ask me. What’s more, she’s got scandal sheets longer than anyone angling for the top job. You want a clean Oval Office, she ain’t the one (travelgate, filegate, Whitewater, Vince Foster, etc., etc.).

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this

“I think if you were to see who is really “intimidatedâ€? by Hillary that would be her “husband.â€? That might be why she can’t never find him.”

Touche’ Andy!

Glenn - Condi Rice is all those things that you describe yet she doesn’t shriek and talk about taking away my tax cuts to fund the “greater good”. Like extorting funds from American taxpayers for so many fake Katrina victims?

By finch

February 14, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

DavidU, yep, it’s healthy debate. For this site. Hehheh!

Danish, Turkeygate is real. The NYT “plastic turkey” story was real. And maybe Dana did write about it, but we just can’t find the thing, dammit. Your Dem fem category list was humorous but full of, ummm, stereotypes. What the hell. I’m not going to bother with labelling GOP women. Too easy!

RW, I love dark humor. The News-Observer thing by Barry Saunders is funny in a twisted way. Written before the heart attack I’m sure.

By buff

February 14, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

glenn

If Hill is so articulate why does she NEVER hold open press conferences?

She is a fraud

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

buff - fat doesn’t necessarily conjure up liberal chick to me. Its an equal opportunity description.

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this

Down side about moving Condi to VP, though, is that you take her away from the good job she’s doing in State, which is more important. I’m not sure she has political ambitions anyway, though I may be wrong. She’s still young enough to wait awhile. But a strong, smart, African-American Southern woman: Grand slam.

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

Buff - “One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors” Plato

So lets keep the discussion going!

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this

Someone tell me exactly what Hillary has done? She has four years of experience in the Senate, not long enough to build much of a record. She has zero executive or military experience. Dems said Dubya was too green to be president six years ago, but he had a length resume compared to hers. Take away Bill and what has she got?

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this

Dr. R -I agree, I don’t see Condi runninng in ‘08, maybe in ‘12 or ‘16 depending if Rep win in ‘08. She needs to be out in the political talking circuit a while and also some time away from Washington.

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

finch - That was the point - multiple “stereotypes”. Kimberly commented that Dusty was like an “ante-bellum” woman and then complained that people were using hairy leg stereotypes about liberals, so I just wanted Kimberly to know that there is more than one stereotype, so she needn’t worry that we think she doesn’t shave her legs.

By buff

February 14, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

Dr. R

She is given high marks constituent service, and is said to be a hard worker

but she ain’t no Billy when it comes to politics

Plus, the media loves her

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this

Then she’s well on her way to becoming an effective senator. But that doesn’t make someone qualified to sit in the Oval Office. That’s why so few legislators wind up in the big chair. Serving as part of a deliberative body like the Senate is not the same as wielding executive power, which is why we tend to elect governors more often than members of Congress.

OK you history buffs, tell me who was the last sitting senator elected president? (hint: There were exactly two in the 20th century; if you can name both, you win a prize).

By buff

February 14, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

Dr R

JFK and Harding

By Dick Morris

February 14, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

Kennedy was one, but the easiest to guess I imagine.

By buff

February 14, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

DavidU

There is no one out there who gives me the warm fuzzies, except maybe Condi, and she is not ready, yet

Now, I am a big Newt fan. I have had private conversations with him and he is brilliant, knows policy and history very well, and, he has common sense

He would kill Hillary in a debate

By finch

February 14, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

buff,

I’m not sure the media loves Hillary all that much.

By Dr R

February 14, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

Buff wins the daily double. Someone get him a beer and a woman … (wait, you are a guy aren’t you? If not, we’ll improvise).

By buff

February 14, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

Yep, I am a guy, but have a good woman, but bring on the beer

By finch

February 14, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

What do Carter, Reagan and Clinton have in common?

They were all governors before they were Presidents.

Okay, I pitched Mark Warner. I’m not a rabid fan of the ex Va. gov., but he has possibilities.

Other folks are talking Hillary, Newt, Condi, Obama (longshot)… I’ll mention Harry Reid, Bill Frist, Powell and Giuliani…

Who else?

By buff

February 14, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

What do y’all think about algore’s treasonous type speech to the Arabs?

Did you hear that San Fransissy is not going to let the USS Iowa set up shop in its bay? It is to protest the war in the middle-east

Talk about a bunch of nuts

After that anti-handgun law was passed out there I became a lifetime member of the NRA

I want a rocket launcher

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

buff - Newt? Well He did stand side by side with Hillary and endorse the Medical records bill last year (I even think Frist was in it too), and then theres the book he published. I wouldn’t mind Newt to tell you the truth.

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Buff - I love people like Newt who are actually historians, versus those who are revisionist historians and make it all up. And Newt would destroy Hilary in a debate. Well, I take that back. Newt would destroy Hilary in a real debate. But she always makes her own rules up about what one can or cannot ask, and gets away with it.

If any Senator has a chance to beat the odds it’s George Allen. And if Lynn Swann gets elected Governor, he has a really bright future, and could take on the articulate but rabidly socialist Obama.

By buff

February 14, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

DavidU

Newt has cozied up too close with Hillary, but I think he is trying to dispel his mean image when he was Whip, then Speaker

That book is GREAT

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 04:28 PM | Link to this

finch - Harry Reid? That would be priceless!!

Buff - I think that Al Gore proves every day that he is a sore loser and he is in desperate need of MEDical attention. What a statesman - Cozying up to Saudis right in the middle of the cartoon intifada - too bad he didn’t get elected! Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo twilight zone time.

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this

buff -What do y’all think about algore’s treasonous type speech to the Arabs

I call it pandering to the audience and being naive that it would go well here in America, but treasonous? Treasonous is divulging a CIA operatives name during war and one who was currently in assignment. That’s treasonous, Al Gore’s speech, stupid.

Buy Danish - Obama like Condi are not ready IMO for ‘08, too early for them.

By Harbinger1

February 14, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

I love this cartoon. Talk about Instant Karma for the Republican party!

By buff

February 14, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

See you all later

I have to go to a bureaucratic waste of time and money: aka a “meeting”

By Andy

February 14, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

DavidU: Your idea of actual harm seems to be a little skewed, do you really think Valerie Plame or the United States suffered from this episode brought about by the NY Times? This minor incident versus a whole entire Islamic nation inflamed at the United States after being told by a “dignitary” from the U.S. about crimes that we didn’t even commit?

Are you sure about that?

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 14, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this

a whole entire Islamic nation inflamed at the United States after being told by a “dignitary� from the U.S. about crimes that we didn’t even commit.

As I’m sure you’ve noticed, it doesn’t take much to inflame an Islamic nation…

By finch

February 14, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this

” …a whole entire Islamic nation inflamed at the United States after being told by a “dignitaryâ€? (Gore) from the U.S. about crimes that we didn’t even commit?

Please provide links showing that Al Gore’s presence or words incited riots in Saudi Arabia, or any other Islamic country.

Bet you can’t….

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 14, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

and could take on the articulate but rabidly socialist Obama

Am I mistaken or didn’t this chap just get sworn in about a year ago? What could he have possibly done in that short period of time to be labeled as such?

By Andy

February 14, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

1- All the more reason for the 2000 loser to shut his silly pinko mouth, you reckon?

2- Gee, maybe we might have to wait for them to fly an airplane into a skyscraper, you reckon?

By buff

February 14, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

J and P

He have a speech that was well written and eloquent, but was out of the Karl Marx playbook

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 14, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

Here’s a new topic for discussion, what do you guys think about GM’s “Go Yellow” campaign and their new “Flexfuel” vehicles?

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Andy - Yes there is no real reason why CIA operatives work incognito. Divulging their identity is of no real importance. Sure you keep believing that.

Work day done, got to go!

By Andy

February 14, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

DavidU: Venturing beyond the pages of the AJC for information may benefit you and you really should consider it. Yes there is no real reason why CIA operatives work incognito Valerie, Miss Privacy Photo Spread, Plame was, now check out this irony, a weapons of mass destruction analyst, which means she didn’t get out and sneak around very much. Did it ever occur to you this might be the reason why Fitzgerald has gone to waiting for crimes to be committed so that he charge someone, anyone, and be able to justify the massive amounts of money he has wasted so far?

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

finch,

People will die as a direct result of Al Gore’s speech, but you have to give the Imams time to put his speech together with some phony pictures that supposedly show us doing what he claimed.

By buff

February 14, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

Andy

I heard Fitzgerald say he never investigated whether there was a leak on her

I doubt they ever convict Scooter

By Scooter

February 14, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

Was Valerie Plame truly undercover?

“Anyone with Google access could have instantly discovered that “Wilson’s wife” was Valerie Plame. At the time, a simple Google search of Wilson’s name would have turned up his biography on the Corporate & Public Strategy Advisory Group’s website. The biography, which referred to his wife as the “former Valerie Plame,” appeared on the site as far back as February 8, 2003, according to the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine.”

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

finch - R.W. is right - they just haven’thad time to riot yet.

And guess who was a chief sponsor of this Jeddah Summit that sore loserman was paid to attend? The Bin Laden Group. Yup, one and the same. So the “man” who accuses Bush of “betraying this country” goes to the middle east and warms their souls by telling them how much we have ‘abused’ Arabs.

Don’t you just love the irony of it all? Too bad Cheney went hunting - we might actually have this to talk about instead of quailgate.

Jewish and proud - Hilary had a whole trail of leftwingnut stuff, before she even married Bill. One doesn’t have to be elected to be a socialist, or talk like a socialist, or act like a socialist. In fact if one hides the fact that one is a socialist it’s a lot easier to get elected.

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

Speaking of riots, from the AP ” Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan Feb 14 5:06 PM US/Eastern”. Here’s a snippet:

“Thousands rampaged through two cities Tuesday in Pakistan’s worst violence against Prophet Muhammad caricatures, burning buildings housing a hotel, banks and a KFC, vandalizing a Citibank and breaking windows at a Holiday Inn and a Pizza Hut.”

They sound JUS like our own dear Anti-globalists, but I guess there are no McDonalds, Starbucks, or WalMarts to torch in Pstan so they got stuck with KFC.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

That’s another problem we will face from the press. When they start rioting over saudialgate the AP will tell us it’s still the cartoons or that President Bush smirked at a mosque.

There is a new cartoon riot “coming soon to a German embassy near you”.

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 14, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

Jewish and proud - Hilary had a whole trail of leftwingnut stuff, before she even married Bill. One doesn’t have to be elected to be a socialist, or talk like a socialist, or act like a socialist. In fact if one hides the fact that one is a socialist it’s a lot easier to get elected

So what your telling me RW, is that George Bush might be a socialist?

By N-GA

February 14, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

READ the entire article. You should change your tag so that from now on no one will recognize you for this idiotic post.

Anyone could have determined that Plame was Wilson’s wife. What allows her to be “undercover” is the fact that she was a COVERT CIA operative (until some Fascist administration offical disclosed her function). The article you cite simply debates whether or not saying “Wilson’s wife” is the same as saying “Valerie Plame”.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

My goodness, if Valerie Plame was a “COVERT CIA operative” then we really are sc-rewed. It makes no difference who the president is if our “COVERT CIA operatives” run around the pinko media doing photo spreads instead of protecting the country.

I thought the pinkos hated the CIA? Can’t they make up their minds?

Oh, I get it, they’re just using them for political purposes.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

Jewish and Proud of It,

Ahh..sure, whatever dude.

By N-GA

February 14, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

Since there seems to be a HUGE pregnant pause on this blog while the wingnuts ponder what lie to spew next, let’s observe that most of them are Rush L./Bill O. wannabe’s. They take quotes out of context, tell lies by omission, and refuse to respond to facts.

Andy’s mom, where are you. I enjoy your posts and admire your courage when you acknowledge that bed wetter as your son. Keep it coming.

By Hugh

February 14, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Mike’s is the best cartoon on the incident I’ve seen yet. Because it shows Cheney as I think he really is.

By buff

February 14, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

N-Ga

I am a Rush fan, but Bill O, what a flannel mouthed arrogant hack

I don’t’ even know if he is a conservative

By Andy

February 14, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

Perfect timing, N-GA. Do a victory dance while the other team is circling the bases. You libs are a trip and you do not disappoint.

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

J.A.P. - That was me, Danish, not RW that you quote. Your attempt to connect those dots to Bush get an F grade.

N-GA, Like abramoffgate, plamegate is ultimately going to go nowhere because there is no there there.

I just wish someone would explain to me how it is that her ridiculous husband was able to go on a CIA trip at her behest and then publish a “story” about it in the NYT without impunity. Wasn’t his trip classified?? If anyone should have been interviewed by the grand jury, it seems to me that Joe and Val were number one on the list.

Also, since you are so concerned with state secrets being divulged, I trust that you have widely commented about what a shame it is that the NSA’s secrets were exposed and palpably harmed our national security.

By Andy's Mom

February 14, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

I’m here. He seems to be behavin hisself right now. But if he steps out of line I have some stories to tell on him.

By N-GA

February 14, 2006 06:06 PM | Link to this

Remember Daniel Ellsberg? Nixon referred to him as another Alger Hiss because he released the Pentagon Papers. In his tapes, Nixon said he would destroy Ellsberg. In today’s papers, the administration says that it is going full blast after “leakers”. This is in response to someone “leaking” the existence of the NSA’s illegal “spying on Americans” prgram. Yet many in Congress want to determine whether these individuals are, in fact, whistle-blowers like Ellsberg. Why isn’t the administration going after the Plame info leakers with equal zeal. Can you spell “hypocrisy”?

By Andy

February 14, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

N-GA: Do you think the leak of the location of the CIA prisons was a “whistle blower?”

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

N-GA - Ellsberg ILLEGALLY released the Pentagon Papers. But it is interesting that you have to go back to Richard Nixon to show us some examples of fascist dirt.

A “whistle blower” is someone who acts within the law, a “leaker” is someone who spills classified info for a headline in the NYT and puts all of us, even YOU at risk.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this

The Shame Of Al Gore

Leadership: What possesses a former vice president of the U.S. to travel to the birthplace of Islamist terrorism and denounce his country? Only a special breed of demons, apparently, can explain Al Gore.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this

From H-GA:

They take quotes out of context, tell lies by omission, and refuse to respond to facts.

Then from N-GA:

This is in response to someone “leaking� the existence of the NSA’s illegal “spying on Americans� prgram.

I’m not sure if that’s hypocrisy or psychological projection.

By N-GA

February 14, 2006 06:16 PM | Link to this

It genuinely amazed me when the Neo-Cons (Fascists) were successful at pulling together an unholy alliance of:

• religious right wing (single issue - abortion)
• NASCAR Nation (Uneducated Bubba’s who love to watch to see which driver/crew cheats the most in order to get to Victory Lane)
• greedy corporate types (single issue - tax relief)
• white Aryan nation (the blacks, Jews, Catholics, immigrants etc. are stealing our jobs and women).
• NRA (guns don’t kill people, blah, blah)

This administration certainly appeals to the LCD (that’s Lowest Common Denominator for you Bubba’s that have more tattoo’s than teeth!

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 06:16 PM | Link to this

N-GA - Plamegate is one of the best illustrations of the phrase of “no harm no foul”. Sadly for us, the same cannot be said for your heroes.

By NEWT

February 14, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

Take a look at the last posts of Andy, Buy Danish, and RW. Then look at the times. It’s almost as if one person has 2 windows open, types the comments and hits post at the same time. Are those 3 really one blogger?

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

I thought this guy was the new Democrat hero just a few weeks ago.

Paul Hackett, an Iraq war veteran and popular Democratic candidate in Ohio’s closely watched Senate contest, said yesterday that he was dropping out of the race and leaving politics altogether as a result of pressure from party leaders.

Mr. Hackett said Senators Charles E. Schumer of New York and Harry Reid of Nevada, the same party leaders who he said persuaded him last August to enter the Senate race, had pushed him to step aside so that Representative Sherrod Brown, a longtime member of Congress, could take on Senator Mike DeWine, the Republican incumbent.

By N-GA

February 14, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this

That’s right, Buy Danish….It doesn’t make any difference if no one is hurt. You lie on your taxes……ahhhh….no harm. So typical of this administration. Just like GWB running off to work on a campaign when he should have been (pick one):

• on active duty like the rest of us
• doing his reserve duty like he signed up for

All of your mama’s must be real proud of your lack of moral fiber.

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

Andy - Regarding your 5:10 post

Plame passed herself off as a private energy expert…that was her cover. Her place of employment was Brewster Jennings & Associates which the CIA revealed was a front company. ” A former diplomat who spoke on condition of anonymity said yesterday that every foreign intelligence service would run Plame’s name through its databases within hours of its publication to determine if she had visited their country and to reconstruct her activities. ” I don’t understand how you can’t see she was undercover.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

1- The NSA leak: Harmed national security.

2- The CIA prison leak: Harmed national security.

3- Valerie Plame leak: Ummmm, it, well, yea, never mind.

This is how you classify a whistle blower: He harms the Republicans.

By Herman's Head

February 14, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

Newt,

I actually have six windows open, but I am only RW and when the occasion calls for it…see above.

By NEWT

February 14, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

Speaking of LCD. I wonder how Whitney H’s trist with Monica’s man went today? Those two were perfectly matched.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 06:30 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

Do you think it might be a good idea if we didn’t have CIA operatives using their easily traceable names. I.E. Joe Wilson’s wife the former Valerie Plame in his bio.

If undercover agents are really using their real names we’ve got far bigger problems with the CIA to deal with than the wannabe cover model.

By NEWT

February 14, 2006 06:32 PM | Link to this

Actually I’m glad you are 3 different people. But maybe you should call yourselves Moe, Larry, and Curly.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

DavidU:

From your article:

The company’s identity, Brewster-Jennings & Associates, became public because it appeared in Federal Election Commission records on a form filled out in 1999 by Valerie Plame, the case officer at the center of the controversy, when she contributed $1,000 to Al Gore’s presidential primary campaign.

For the “leak” law to be in effect the agent had to be undercover within the previous 5 years. Look at your date.

I like that last little bit of information, there was no partisan motives behind this deal, nope, not at all.

By N-GA

February 14, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this

So, RW. What I think you are saying is that even though it violates Federal Law to disclose the name of a covert CIA operative, it is up to the Operative to conceal their name.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

Oh no NEWT it takes far more than the brainpower of a stooge to keep up with the unbelievably vast knowledge, incredible insight, and uproarious wit that you bring to the discussion.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

Does no when else find this manifesto to be like totally bizarre? Where do these kooks come up with this stuff?

religious right wing (single issue - abortion) NASCAR Nation (Uneducated Bubba’s who love to watch to see which driver/crew cheats the most in order to get to Victory Lane) greedy corporate types (single issue - tax relief) white Aryan nation (the blacks, Jews, Catholics, immigrants etc. are stealing our jobs and women). NRA (guns don’t kill people, blah, blah)

They call us mean for calling them goofy but then they turn right around and throw goofy stuff at us.

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 06:39 PM | Link to this

Andy - yes and it also says “Wilson also gave $1,000 to the Bush primary campaign”. I think even CIA operatives and their relatives can be interested in politics and contribute like regular Americans.

By N-GA

February 14, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this

Hey, Bed Wetter:

It amuses me when this administration crticizes the courts for “making law” when all this administration does is have the executive branch “make law”.

What hypocrisy !!!

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

I know you have a problem with trying to be reasonable, but it is very obvious that I am saying the CIA should not send people undercover using their real names. I also bet they don’t.

By NEWT

February 14, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this

N-GA, you might as well be listening to a poorly done spin off of the Rush Limbaugh pukefest. You know the spiel. Republicans are as pure as freshly fallen snow and have never in the history of this nation done anything wrong or underhanded. Nixon was just misunderstood. Now the Democrats on the other hand, are vile and evil. They are the root cause of all ills. And that Clinton fellow was just awful. You know N-Ga. The same old vomit comes up time after time. You can always count on Rush to bash the dems, and then the predictable, “but the Republicans…..”

By Andy

February 14, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this

Hey Traitor:

1- The NSA leak disclosed illegal activities? You consider spying on Al Qaeda to be illegal?

2- The CIA prison leak disclosed illegal activities? You consider imprisoning Al Qaeda to be illegal?

3- Valerie Plame leak - ended a career using illegal disclosure in violation of Federal Law. She retired in 2005, she could have stayed on indefinitely.

I can’t respond to the last paragraph because I have no idea what this paranoid kook is talking about.

By Daniel

February 14, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

Newt: Don’t take these goof-balls seriously. They only care for money and power. They are un-american. They do not care for the USA. They only care for themselves. The Republican Party is dangerously out of control. America suffers for it. They are thieves and cowards. 9 Billion is missing in Iraq. They propose to spend 500 Billion. Things will get much, much worse.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 06:51 PM | Link to this

Well, if it isn’t Miss Hysteria, Daniel, complete with her knickers in a twist.

By Andy's Mom

February 14, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

Calm down son! Americans expressing their view ain’t bein no traitor. Keep it up and I’ll have to take that blow up man thing away from you again.

That was awful folks. You see he has this blow up toy man that looks like Che Guevara that he plays the “pinko game” with. He was bad one day and I took it from him for punishment. He went nuts. Went on a bloggin bender like you ain’t seen. Wouldn’t eat, wouldn’t wash hisself and I swear people he wore the same diaper for pert near 10 days. Let me tell you when I finally opened his door to give him back that doll, pauuuuueeee! But man was he happy to get it back. He threw off that dirty diaper, slapped ole Che down on his lap and screamed PINKO PINKO PINKO at the top of his lungs until…well you know.

Please Andy. Let’s not go through that again.

By N-GA

February 14, 2006 06:54 PM | Link to this

RW,

Most CIA operatives function using their real names. They are assigned jobs in embassies and gather intelligence in the field.

Then there are those who go to Italy and kidnap an individual so they can illegally ship them to Egypt for interrogation.

BTW…I’m generally considered reasonable except when my country is going to the dogs.

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

Andy - For the “leak� law to be in effect the agent had to be undercover within the previous 5 years.

I’m not sure if she was still undercover but as of 2003 her being a CIA agent was classified -> Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer. In July 2003, the fact that Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer was classified. Not only was it classified, but it was not widely known outside the intelligence community

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

Andy - People like N-GA just can’t help themselves. They try to sound reasonable for a minute or two but then their anger at mommy and daddy and “the system” and everyone who ever did them wrong overwhelms them. Then (sore loser is a perfect example) they just EXPLODE with paranoia and get an attack of tourette’s syndrome.

N-GA - I am on an “anti-islamofacist” crusade. Funny, but of all the possible bigotries you mentioned, you neglected the real issue that many of us really care about. Anti-Catholic bigotry? Not.

And for the record, I have no interest in Nascar, not that there’s anything wrong with it of course.

By NEWT

February 14, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

John Wayne Gacy was a Republican. Was he a “friend” of yours Andy?

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

You may be I’ve only seen you here, though. Why would they use front companies to go undercover if all they are doing is traipsing around with embassy jobs. That sounds a lot like the excuses that get used every time some rogue dictator decides to kidnap anybody that does work at an embassy. So I think your tale of ambassador spies is either unmitigated BS or damaging to the US. This is the country you’re looking out for isn’t it?

By Andy

February 14, 2006 06:59 PM | Link to this

DavidU: She has to be actively undercover outside of the United States within the previous 5 years. She never left Langley, Va.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 07:04 PM | Link to this

NEWT,

Read the third paragraph in the “LIFE” section.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 07:05 PM | Link to this

Gosh, Newt, that was so mind numbling deep, so thoughtful. You and that pinko claiming to be my parents really should consider running for office as democrats. You got what it takes!

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 07:06 PM | Link to this

OOOOH - N-GA is showing all of us how “educated” he is by using the ad hominem, “Bed wetter”. Learned that in the Ivy Leagues did ya dude? I’m impressed!

Not Newt - You’re out of your league here. Let’s not bother with party affiliations. Let’s get down to psychopathic dicators who murder tens of millions of people. You’re on their side, right?

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 07:08 PM | Link to this

dictator not dicator.

By Daniel

February 14, 2006 07:10 PM | Link to this

They will hardly tell the truth. They are heavily image conscious. It is all about money and power. Here they are: “If it makes money for the Republicans, then it’s good. If it makes a lot of money then it’s real good.” America means nothing to them. If it is wrong, they don’t care. Our country is in the hands of the worst of the “Borrow and Spend” crowd. America is betrayed.

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this

N-GA - OOPS! RW nailed you TO THE WALL!!

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 07:15 PM | Link to this

RW- would they use front companies to go undercover if all they are doing is traipsing around with embassy jobs.

But within the C.I.A., the exposure of Ms. Plame is now considered an even greater instance of treachery. Ms. Plame, a specialist in nonconventional weapons who worked overseas, had “nonofficial cover,” and was what in C.I.A. parlance is called a Noc, the most difficult kind of false identity for the agency to create. While most undercover agency officers disguise their real profession by pretending to be American embassy diplomats or other United States government employees, Ms. Plame passed herself off as a private energy expert. Intelligence experts said that Nocs have especially dangerous jobs.

Its from the NY Times but is archived now, so had to find it from a different site, Here is the abstract from NYTimes

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this

Sorry N-GA, that was NEWT that got nailed to the wall. You did too, but just not as perfectly.

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 07:18 PM | Link to this

Ok that went totaly wrong

By Buy Danish

February 14, 2006 07:22 PM | Link to this

DavidU - Lesson #1: Just because it’s in the New York Times does not make it true.

And, and this is important, if she was so worried about being “outed”, then why did she send her hubby to Niger to investigate yellowcake and then let her hubby claim that Cheney sent him, and then let him write a phony John Kerry campaign speech story about it in the New York Times? Hmmmmmmm?

By Midori

February 14, 2006 07:22 PM | Link to this

and the idiocy goes on

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 07:22 PM | Link to this

And thats suposed to read:

1st one: story

2nd one: abstract

now 1. and 2. turn into bullets? Did not know that

By Daniel

February 14, 2006 07:23 PM | Link to this

Bruce Bartlett has a new book. “Impostor” Bruce was a Senior Fellow for the NCPA. That’s the National Center for Policy Analysis. The book is due out 2/28. Be sure to pick it up. NCPA is a top Conservative think-tank. They fired Bruce for telling the truth. The “Impostor” is Bush. This is the book you’ve been waiting for. It exposes what many have been saying about this government.

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish - Ok what news source would you like me to find thats alright to quote then?

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 07:35 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

Calm down with the multi-links, I understood the first go round. The paragraph right after the one you excerpted makes it highly suspect that Valerie Plame was ever undercover using the name Valerie Plame.

The CIA let her husband go to Niger with no confidentiality agreement. There is no way someone wouldn’t begin to ask questions about how he came to be sent and the CIA would have to know that in advance.

So the two options you are left with are, the CIA really is a bunch of bumbling fools or there was no danger if the name Valerie Plame was exposed.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Oh boy!! Another book that claims to bring down and expose the evil and corrupt Bush administration. How many is that now? If you guys would use the public library you might discourage some of these writers that know how to find such a gullible audience.

By Daniel

February 14, 2006 07:45 PM | Link to this

RW: Google Bruce Bartlett, then respond. Gulible? You’re getting screwed too, pal. Bruce was a Senior Fellow. He is on the inside. What was it Abamoff called you people?

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 07:48 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

I didn’t call Bruce gullible I called the people that buy every book that makes any claim about Bush gullible.

By Andy

February 14, 2006 07:48 PM | Link to this

New toon, we actually got a democrat but it’s kinda rosey, of course…

By WashingtonState

February 14, 2006 07:51 PM | Link to this

I try and look at these things from the other person’s point of view. Now if it was a Democratic administration that had outed Plame … See what I mean? It helps to put things in perspective

By Daniel

February 14, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this

RW: Google him anyway. Bruce comes from deep inside the Conservative Brain Trust. I have faith in America and the American people. The truth is going to win out. I know it’s hard for the partisans. America is more important than any group of political hacks.

By Ricky

February 14, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

Daniel, of course you are right. The administration doesn’t care a lick for the American people. They are only out for themselves and to make money. Does the term blind partisan mean anything to you?

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 07:54 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState,

I do too, tell me again who is charged with “outing” Valerie Plame?

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this

RW - it highly suspect that Valerie Plame was ever undercover using the name Valerie Plame

Well seeing how that’s the name she was using when filling w-2s from the cover CIA company and giving campaign contributions from. Yeah, I think she was using that name.

By Ricky

February 14, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this

Daniel, Dick Morris was deep inside the Clinton adminstration so everything he says about them must be true too right

By WashingtonState

February 14, 2006 07:57 PM | Link to this

RW, Right now, it is looking more and more like Cheney will get holding the bag on this one, but for my money, Rove is behind it. It’ll be interesting to see who it is once Libby finishes singing.

By Daniel

February 14, 2006 07:59 PM | Link to this

Ricky: You should get Bruce’s book, too. Bush is an “Impostor”. The evidence is in. America deserves a government that cares about all of us. Bush only cares for the rich. Name one thing they have done for all of America. Name one promise they have kept. Abramoff is no accident. He is the natural creation of the money hungry Republican establishment. Do you need your nose rubbed in it?

By WashingtonState

February 14, 2006 07:59 PM | Link to this

“The responsibility for handling this, of course, was Cheney’s,” Fitzwater, who served as presidential press secretary for George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan, told E&P in a phone interview from his Maryland home. “What he should have done was call his press secretary and tell her what happened and she then would have gotten a hold of the doctor and asked him what happened. Then interview [ranch owner] Katharine Armstrong to get her side of events and then put out a statement to inform the public.

“They could have done all of that in about two hours on Saturday. It is beyond me why it was not done this way.”

Interesting comment on how the administration handle information dissemination from an objective source.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

A lot of radio DJ’s cash a check that is made out to their real name too. You really aren’t looking at this logically.

I’m moving to the new thread, see you there!

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

RW - That’s the beauty of this thing, in both our heads the other is not seeing it logically.

By RW-(the original)

February 14, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this

DavidU,

If you think it’s logical to have the deepest undercover agents possible, ones that your own link says are…

“Nocs are the holiest of holies,” said Kenneth M. Pollack, a former agency officer who is now director of research at the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution. “This is real James Bond stuff. You’re going overseas posing as a businessman, and if the other government finds out about you, they’re probably going to shoot you. The United States has basically no way to protect you.”

…running around using their real names, where any suspicion can be tracked back so easily, then you’re far further out there than illogical.

By Ricky

February 14, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this

Daniel, I already know how you feel about Bush, but you didn’t answer my question as I suspected you wouldnt

By Daniel

February 14, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this

Ricky: I missed yours of 7:55PM. I am no Clinton fan. Morris had something to say. I feel about Bush the way anyone betrayed should feel. Name one promise he’s kept.

By WashingtonState

February 14, 2006 08:17 PM | Link to this

It is ironic that the attempt to marginalize the former Bush administration officials who are coming out with books and interviews that expose the administration has reached this level: “You must be a sucker if you believe all these people.” Interesting take on things.

By WashingtonState

February 14, 2006 08:21 PM | Link to this

As long as we are on the subject, here is another one:

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20060301faessay85202/paul-r-pillar/intelligence-policy-and-the-war-in-iraq.html

PAUL R. PILLAR is on the faculty of the Security Studies Program at Georgetown University. Concluding a long career in the Central Intelligence Agency, he served as National Intelligence Officer for the Near East and South Asia from 2000 to 2005.

By Daniel

February 14, 2006 08:21 PM | Link to this

Bruce Bartlett was never in the Bush admninistration. He is a writer. NCPA is the big Conservative think-tank. Bartlett is arespected man and talented journalist. Can anyone name one promise Bush has kept?

By DavidU

February 14, 2006 08:22 PM | Link to this

RW- Well seeing “they” did not know she was with the CIA and had no reason to suspect. And even if they did, to them she was an energy analyst for a law firm in Boston who was married to an ex diplomat. I have no idea if she had her regular life as a back story, but with the internet it is probably wise, since a 6 year old with access to google can find out if shes really who se says she is.

By Daniel

February 14, 2006 08:27 PM | Link to this

The republicans I talk to candidly admit deep concern about Bush and the state of our country. No one imagined how bad he would be. We’re all trying to put a good face on it. The truth is real bad, however. We will pay for these excesses for yesrs and years to come. Since none of you can name one promise, I’m going to leave. Bye, bye.

By Ricky

February 14, 2006 08:41 PM | Link to this

Daniel, I too have deep concerns about this administration. I don’t agree with many things they have done. Here is a couple of promises they have kept though since you seem to be harping on that tonight. They cut taxes like they said they would and Bush as appointed conservative judges like he said he would. My point about Dick Morris was, your whole point about this book was that the author was dee inside conservative circles, so it must be true. The same can be said of Dick Morris. Just pointing out that your premise is flawed on that reasoning

By N-GA

February 14, 2006 09:14 PM | Link to this

I seem to recall a book written by GWB’s first Sec. of the Treasury. I seem to recall the author observing that GWB cabinet meetings always included a discussion of that SOB Saddam Hussein and Iraq. I seem to recall that these discussions all took place before 9/11. I seem to recall that the author said that GWB was preoccupied with Saddam (maybe because it is believed that Saddam tried to have GWB’s daddy assassinated during a trip to Kuwait). I seem to recall that this administration poo-pooed this book and its author. Finally, I seem to recall that administration officials NEVER said that the claims were inaccurate, only that they DIDN’T RECALL those discussions. By responding that way, they can never be said to have LIED.

They did the same thing to the former CIA official, now author. They said the same thing about the Texan who headed up the Texas Air National Guard who claimed that a friend of the Bush family asked him to intercede and give junior a coveted reserve position (definitely wasn’t available to me and my friends back in 1968).

Just a bunch of liars. And the bed wetters who believe this crap are made of the same stuff that the Waffen SS and Brownshirts were.

By finch

February 14, 2006 09:20 PM | Link to this

RW,

Gore’s speech in Saudi Arabia wasn’t too bright. But following the bruhaha over Gitmo, CIA “renditions”, Qurans in toilets and Mohammed cartoons, you think this is inflammatory?:

Gore said Arabs had been “indiscriminately rounded up” and held in “unforgivable” conditions”.

Old news. Nothing to see here. Move along.

By Ricky

February 14, 2006 09:41 PM | Link to this

finch, they are inflammatory because they are patently false. You omitted the end of the “indiscriminately rounded up” part where he said hundreds.

By Sticker

February 15, 2006 01:26 AM | Link to this

At this point, it should be patently obvious to one and all that Republicans are basically criminals.

No real American would support them after such a disastrous five long years in office.

By Sticker

February 15, 2006 05:20 AM | Link to this

And of course, maybe if Dick Cheney had not gotten FIVE deferments from Vietnam while other REAL Americans were fighting for their country, he might today be qualified to handle a gun.

By Matthew Lipsey

February 16, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

Cheney was wearing orange…not camouflage. I find it sadly amusing people seem to find this such a large story. It was an accident. It was birdshot. Cheney actually apologized…oh my word, he’s not a venomous snake. Wow.

By Matthew Lipsey

February 16, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Reading over all these posts…you guys are really a loving crowd. I thought liberals were a bit more caring. What a bunch of pent-up aggression.

By William Rodes

February 17, 2006 09:40 PM | Link to this

Please do a cartoon with all these prominent republican pollitions in a commode swirling around and going down with bush with his crazy look holding his hand on the flush button. thanks Bill rodes

By William Rodes

February 17, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

How come the news agencies are not picking up on the fact that the attorney that was shot is saying it occured Friday and Chaney and everybody is saying saturday?