Mike Luckovich

By Andy

January 27, 2006 06:16 AM | Link to this

Well, I’ll be d-amned. The liberal democrats finally won an election:

Palestinian vote affirms power shift to Islamists

By Andy

January 27, 2006 06:19 AM | Link to this

You have to wonder why Osama is still hiding when he could probably win the democratic nomination for president, now that Hillary is git um up, git um up, gone!

By deltamatic

January 27, 2006 06:20 AM | Link to this

So what happens now?

By candide

January 27, 2006 06:22 AM | Link to this

We would have gotten Bin Laden long ago had we not gotten into the damned Iraq war. This is Bush’s fault. In fact, everything is Bush’s fault and he should be impeached.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 06:25 AM | Link to this

EARNINGS: Troubled GM loses billions

Wagoner said the company is moving forward with its turnaround plans, including a restructuring that will cut 30,000 jobs and shutter 12 facilities by 2008 and a plan to cut structural costs by $4 billion this year, ———->largely through a health care agreement with the United Auto Workers<——— and manufacturing improvements.

Is this good enough for you, RE?

By Andy

January 27, 2006 06:52 AM | Link to this

“If Senator Reid’s mission was to travel to red states to get beaten like a pinata by the media about his hypocrisy on ethics and Abramoff-related funds, then he was quite successful, and we applaud his efforts,” said Brian Nick, chief spokesman for the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

Not only that I think Harry enjoys getting beat by pinata…

By AntiRadical

January 27, 2006 07:26 AM | Link to this

Well today we’re back to the domestic spying thing. (Yawn!) If anybody is REALLY worried about being spied on you may find the following useful or amusing. I have a lot of overseas friends with whom I share e-mail and we play a little game. I took a high-res photo of my hairy-arse which I saved under the file name, “Osama”. I warned my friends not to open this file unless they wanted a big surprise and now attach it to all my overseas e-mails. It always gives me a warm feeling to know that at any point during the day, I am probably “showing my arse” to the tireless and dedicated workers at the NSA. Citizens still have the power to civilly disobey (within the letter of the law) those policies of governments that they find onerous and unsupportable if they would only engage that small amount of gray matter between their ears. Big brother only “thinks” he has ultimate authority

PS- I now have 173 friends in my network (that I know of) who are “showing their arse”, as well. Join us and YOU could make the world a more decent place, too! SHOW YOUR ARSE!!!

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this

AR…That’ll show’um. I mean man, that is so brilliant!

173 friends and I bet you never met a single one.

By Liberal Texas Democrat

January 27, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

Yes, I love this cartoon!

By gttim

January 27, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

173 friends and I bet you never met a single one.

LOL! You know these wingnut losers who post a hundred times a day to the AJC blogs have no “real time” friends! Hey Andy, that includes you!

Bush and company are so busy invading Iraq, eavesdropping on domestic phone calls, fighting porn, and now collecting Americans web surfing habits, Osama is sitting back, making videos and probably playing computer games. The idiot Bush can’t even be bothered to track down the man who killed over 3000 Americans. What a disgrace.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

In fact, there are three lessons: Al Qaeda terrorists are losing. Their only hope is to mimic critics (<—-That’s you, pinkos) in the United States for ideas about derailing American military and diplomatic efforts that are destroying them. And as they go down, they play the victim in desperate search of pity and thus reprieve.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 08:57 AM | Link to this

gttim.daily.kos.com

idiots who post a hundred times a day

By Andy

January 27, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

I bought the MP3 player to use while runnig, since my minidisc died. I have been so busy loading the damn, I have not been able to run.-# posted by gttim : 9:52 AM- blogspot

idiots who post a hundred times a day

By Andy

January 27, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this

Democrat Underground- gttim (64 posts) Click to send private message to this author

idiots who post a hundred times a day

By Andy

January 27, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

Google Search- “gttim” “democrat” “kook”- overwhelming number of hits

idiots who post a hundred times a day

By buff

January 27, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

Fellow bloggers,

I know that we disagree on a host of issues, but, can we all agree that there is a special place in Hell for these people?

People who engage in dog fighting circuits are truly the feces of humanity

http://www.mdjonline.com/268/10208555.txt

By Andy

January 27, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

My Man, George Neumayr:

The historic purpose of the Senate was to serve as an aristocratic counterweight to the sometimes mindless and destructive passions of the House of Representatives. The Senate would safeguard “the cool and deliberate sense of the community,� according to the Federalist Papers. The framers wanted aged men to serve in the Senate, age providing the advantages of “greater extent of information and stability of character.� The framers didn’t get a chance to meet Pat Leahy and Ted Kennedy.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

Mr. Ramani’s five-page letter mentioned privacy only once, at the bottom of the fourth page, and then primarily in the context of perception rather than reality.

“Google’s acceding to the request would suggest that it is willing to reveal information about those who use its services,” he wrote. “This is not a perception that Google can accept.”

Even Google’s allies are shying away from legal arguments based on privacy. The American Civil Liberties Union, for instance, said it planned to file papers supporting Google. But not on privacy grounds. “We will probably not be making that argument,” said Aden J. Fine, a lawyer with the civil liberties union.

If the New York Times and the ACLU say this isn’t a privacy issue, why would the scribbler want to lie about it?

By buff

January 27, 2006 09:33 AM | Link to this

RW

The scribbler is a lying, wimpy, leftist who was bullied at school, who wears women’s clothes around the house and is daily buggered by anti-Americans Cynthia Tucker and Jay Bookman

How anyone could claim neutrality, which Lameovich does, and scrawl the previous ‘toon without mentioning Nagin and Blanco is proof positive he is a fraud and a hack

By getalife

January 27, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this

Soon, our google will be just like the Chinese google.

Why does the coc hate freedom?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

getalife,

How could you mention the two googles and not pimp my latest blog ebtry?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

and “ebtry” is a technical term meaning entry.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

My bad,

Like the Chinese google

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Thank you! That guy next to Harry Reid looks like these guys arresting OBL in the cartoon.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

RW,

Jack should have picked a better outfit, makes him look like a bad guy.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

getalife,

He could have dressed like these guys. They look like fine upstanding citizens hanging out with Al and Hillary.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

Got to go to the doctor, will check back later.

By Eric

January 27, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

Ya got that right, buff.

By Dubya

January 27, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this

I’m coming down from Dumbf—k Mountain on Tuesday to give a big speech. You be sure and watch me Andy baby. I’ll be speaking your language.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

Now Mothra wants Hillary to surrender. Does this guy ever think in terms of winning?

Murtha also weighed in on other topics during the meeting, saying the United States should use diplomacy in combating the threats Iran poses to Mideast stability. He also said Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., could win the Democratic nomination for president in 2008, but that she would lose in the general election.

By Wilma Lamb

January 27, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

Don’t knock Murtha’s Hillary comment, it,s right on the money. The Republicans will do the same thing to Hillary in 08 that they did to Kerry in 04, register as Democrats in the early primaries so she will get the nomination and then pull out every dirty trick they can to beat her. Or since they have Diebold voting machines in key swing states they can just beat her in a “fair?” election sickofsleaze

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Wilma Lamb,

A few points here. I agree with Murthas statement about Hillary, but your reasons are a little silly. In the 2008 primaries, Republicans will have their own slate of candidates and aren’t going to forfeit the right to pick their own candidate by voting in the Democrat primaries. Blaming Diebold is just denial. Speaking of dirty tricks, why won’t Kerry sign standard form 180?

By Andy

January 27, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

I missed one on gttim:

conservativesgonewild

idiots who post hundreds of times a day

By RE

January 27, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

“This is not acceptable,” festival head Eman Hamouri told reporters at the time, accusing Hamas of trying to force its values on others. “We condemn this and we have sought the help of the Palestinian parliament to discuss this serious issue.”

In response to the incident, al-Zahar told WND: “I hardly understand the point of view of the West concerning these issues. The West brought all this freedom to its people but it is that freedom that has brought about the death of morality in the West. It’s what led to phenomena like homosexuality, homeless and AIDS.”

Andy, Finally someone who thinks just like you do. You are in good company

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

Wilma Lamb, its all a conspiracy. The Republicans cheat in every election. Theres no way people would actually want to vote for a Republican, I mean geez, they are such scumbags. They must have to rig the machines to win. How could 51 million be so stupid? Keep up the conspiracy theories Wilma. You will definelty not win the election if all you do is complain with no answers

By Andy

January 27, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

RE: Where are all the other sissies at? Are you the sissy of record today?

By RE

January 27, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

Aren’t you glad that you have finally found someone who views the world the way you do. You would be welcome in Hamas. You can force your values on others, that will make you feel better

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Have you ever wondered why 80% of liberals are uneducated?

By RE

January 27, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

Random statistics with no basis in reality, do you have a point here?

By Brian Curtis

January 27, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

Have you ever wondered why the best-educated people are usually liberals? Have you ever wondered why the neocons hate colleges and college professors so much?

Thinking tends to lead people away from knee-jerk gullibility and blind obedience. Thus, neocons hate it.

By Scooter

January 27, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

ML, is this toon supposed to have Americans fear our own government. Have you decided that Homeland Security is wasting their time and spying on internet pervs? Are we all supposed to believe your ruling in the court of public opinion? ML, if I may dedicate some lyrics to you sir;

“Every twenty seconds got me peepin out my window Investigatin the joint for traps Checkin my telephone for taps I’m starin at the woman on the corner It’s f^ked up when your mind is playin tricks on ya*”-the Ghetto Boys

ML, there are people out there trying to kill all of us and the left wants to fight them extra nice. Funny, in my lesser than respectable days, I saw many kids try to maitain the higher ground in fights and they all got stomped. Is that the left’s plan for this war, or do they want us to retreat behind our borders let the terrorist plot and scheme while we whack moles and prosecute them? I would argue that we must enforce UN resolutions if they will not, and show the people of the Middle-East that not all styles of freedom have to be as perverse as America’s.

ML, UBL better be dead when we get him or you will see new terrorist coming out of the wood work to obtain his freedom.

Now it has come to the point Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons and developing them in underground facilities, yes. Fortunately, no thanks to the left, we have temporary bases w/troops next door. You know, it would be nice if Israel got its hands on some sort of bomb that could penetrate the earth and eliminate Iran’s program. Turns out the Chicken Hawk wanted something like that, but of course the America protecting media would never let that happen.

“We just don’t seem to be able to turn the corner even on researching what’s doable with new kinds of weapons. Bumper stickers aren’t going to accomplish some of the missions this country is going to face.”

Why don’t you doodle up a little toon about that ML? That is, if you want to get the people stirred up over a threat that doesn’t have a sunset clause.

By Brian Curtis

January 27, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Scooter, you really need to get past this fear of yours. It’s causing you to do stupid things, like trust the government and give them a pass on breaking the law. (Because THAT could never backfire on us.)

By Andy

January 27, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

RE: You might want to check and see who is dancing in the streets over Hamas’s victory:

AJC:U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan congratulated the Palestinian people on the peaceful legislative elections, which he said was an important step toward a Palestinian state. International observers, led by former President Carter, said the elections were “well administered.”

I, too, actually think this is a good thing. Now when these pigs attack innocent Israeli citizens, they won’t be able to blame it on a “rogue terrorist organization.” Israel can slaughter them right in the government buildings.

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

Eugene Robinson definitely puts it best.

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis, do you really believe that best educated people are liberals? What an ignorant statement. And to say conservatives are knee-jerk is a joke. I guess the expression “knee-jerk liberal” doesn’t apply to you huh. Your posts are always amusing. You my friend are a blind partisan

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

VoR, so I guess FDR wasn’t using fear when he put all the Japenese in America into concentration camps huh? Cause that turned out to be a great idea.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

Voice of Reason, the name Eugene Robinson is not too welcome in these parts, as it was his late-night, pre-Super Bowl indiscretions that cost the Falcons there best shot at a championship. He looks somewhat older than what I remember, though…

By Andy

January 27, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

Voice of Reason: Wow, that was a real earth shattering important column that you shared with us. How dare Bush use fear to motivate our national security issues, it isn’t like our enemy could knock over the World Trade Centers or anything like that.

By RE

January 27, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

I thought democracy always spread peace?

Maybe that sharansky guy was wrong. Sometimes the realists, while boring sometimes, usually make better choices than the idealists.

Lets see, in the last 3 elections in the middle east, Palistine elected a Hamas majority (radical islamic), Iran elected Ahmadinejad (Radical Islamic), and Iraq is currently forming its own islamic government. Can any of you out there tell me that the world is safer and more peaceful now than it wast 6 years ago?

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

The thing is Ricky, FDR didn’t lie and try to hide it like your boy is.

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this

Andy - You’re an idiot. How dare Bush lie and about perceived threats to pimp his national security issues. You obviously missed the point of the article, which doesn’t surprise me. It’s about honesty and being upfront with the people, not BSin to manipulate.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this

RE: Saddam isn’t feeding his citizens into shredders feet first? Osama hasn’t attacked the United States in over 4 years? Afghanistan citizens can poll at 71% about the promise of their future and roam their streets without the Taliban discriminating against them?

The “realist” is so much better, eh?

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this

Here you go Andy, I’ll hold your hand and walk you through this until you can comprehend on your own:

“Bin Laden does remain a threat. He would hit the United States again if he could. We do expect the president to protect us. But a great wartime leader rallies his citizens by informing them and inspiring them. He certainly doesn’t use threats to our national security for political gain. He doesn’t just point at a map and say “Boo.”

By Brian Curtis

January 27, 2006 01:13 PM | Link to this

Don’t bother, Voice. The neocon tools here are lost in a blind panic, and they’re mooing for Bush to keep them safe ‘by any means necessary.’

Even if it means trampling the Constitution? “Heck yeah; in fact, especially if it means that! We have too many freedoms anyway, and we have to give them up for the government to keep us safe!”

This is why fear remains a powerful neocon tool—and why the successfully terrorized folks will react with outrage if you dare try to point out how they’re being used.

(Ricky: Did you note the difference between conservatives and neocons yet? Plenty of conservatives may be intelligent; none of the neocons are… and true conservatives hate their guts.)

By RE

January 27, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this

Osama did not attack US soil before 9-11 either. Saddam isn’t feeding anyone into shredders, very good. 30-100k iraqis have died since we invaded 3 years ago, so I am not sure how fast he would have been feeding people into shredders to match that number….Ok I got it, assuming 30k, it would be 27.3 people in a shredder every day for 3 years. thats on the low end, hoever I may have missed leap year.

Yeah afganistan is just like disney world now, except for the parts that were ruled by warlords and fanatics. Can’t blame bush on afganistan, the place is a hell hole now, was a hell hole before we went in, and has pretty much been screwed up since alexander the great so, no one is fixing that one.

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this

Brian, you have proved my point…

By Andy

January 27, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this

Voice of Reason: I agreed with you, moron, I said it ain’t like the enemy could knock over the World Trade Center, didn’t I?

P.S. It’s because they already did, you sillya-ss. What in the h-ell kind of concern do you figure this rates at anyway? You’re shrieking at the top of your stupid lungs about Bush shrieking at the top of his lungs.

These pinkos got it made. Bush didn’t do enough about 911. Bush is trying to scare us. Why can’t Bush find Osama Bin Laden? Why is Bush blowing up terrorists in Pakistan? Real sweet.

By Wilma Lamb

January 27, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this

Guess who commented liberals were uneducated never heard of educated fools which seems to be the case with so many elite neocons

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this

VoR, for the record Bush is not my guy. Yes I voted for him against kerry and gore, but only because he was the better option of the two. Brian Curtis, by describing a whole group of people as dumb, you just make yourself look dumb. That was my point.

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this

Andy - You are an a-ssclown. Your little smarta-ss comment was hardly you agreeing. It was you being a condescending a-sshole - as usual.

I hardly consider my post shrieking at the top of my lungs. Bush is an idiot just like you. I don’t know what’s worse, him or the tools that agree with everything he says and defend his retarded a-ss. Him and his buddies are s-hit bags and they are dragging our nation through h-ell. If you can’t see that, you are blind.

By RE

January 27, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this

So Saddam would have had to shred 1.14 people per hour to match the 30k killed so far…that is the low estimate from GWB, and that is a couple months old. now that is assuming working around the clock and not taking any days off. So is this really progress?

By Andy

January 27, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this

Osama did not attack US soil before 9-11 either.- Really? You missed the attack on the USS Cole? On our embassies in 1998?

30-100k iraqis have died since we invaded 3 years ago- We killed 100,000 Iraqi citizens. Is that what you really think? Is that what you really want? Would that make you happy that you could run around hysterically blaming our brave soldiers for the deaths of 100,000 civilians?

71% of the Afghanistan people are confident of a better future. I’ll bow to your experience as an Afghani if you want to correct me and tell me how terrible it is there. I’m guessing you herd goats? Grow opium? I mean there is no way that you could be making this up, like you do everything else, is there?

By Andy

January 27, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

I can’t see that VOR and no amount of feminine hysterical sissy shrieking is going to change my mind. Just because you are on the rag does not mean the whole world is on the rag. Suffer in silence, crackpot.

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

Neocons…is it not funny how that word just popped up in past year and every parrot liberal uses it now. You can tell if a liberal is just spouting off at the mouth what they have read in the media instead of having a brain to think for themselves.

When I hear neocon used, I know you are uneducated.

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

Bravo Andy, Bravo - Excellent response, but go figure, I’m not a woman. You, my dilusional friend, are the crackpot. You and your president. So let me ask you a question since you “agreed” with my original post:

Bush repeated the other day the same thing he said a few months back when asked about OBL. He said he’s not thinking about OBL, and he’s not worried about OBL.

Why all of a sudden the profound concern for OBL, and him telling us we need to take OBL’s threat seriously?

By RE

January 27, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this

Was that US soil? Was the Cole tied up in Brooklyn Harbor, can you read?

Our soldiers did not make the decision to go to Iraq, that was the pentagon and whitehouse. But there are a lot of dead people in Iraq right now, more than if we would not have invaded. And the result of the invasion was to take out a secular dictator and install a fundementalist Islamic democracy. Chances are that will not hold together much longer anyway, there will be civil was in that country for years. Where is the progress?

By Dusty

January 27, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Again, it is almost impossible to believe that some of these bloggers are American citizens. Unproven facts,non-convictions presented as guilt, misrepresentation of facts, even Anti-Radical’s filth to fight our own government. This is what is put forth as good liberal thinking. Some even seem to think that we can fight terrorists by acting like cringing cowards. These liberals ought to be too ashamed to even repeat the Pledge of Allegiance. They probably don’t repeat it anyway. Someone might think they are supporting their country.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Failed Presidency

Pictures are worth a thousand words.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

RE: Islamic terrorists are slaughtering innocent civilians in Iraq because they know that you sissy libs will want to surrender because of it. If you had any sort of intestinal fortitude, if you weren’t such a puss-y, shrieking in the middle of the public square for all to see, maybe Al Qaeda would give it up.

Live with the deaths that you caused or shut up and cause no more.

After a few blows, it forgot all about those titles and rushed out of Somalia in shame and disgrace, dragging the bodies of its soldiers.

By AD

January 27, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

Grinch, you imbecile. At least they are educated enough to know what a neo-con is and apply it correctly to our present administration. Maybe if you were educated you could understand the neo-con mantra per Leo Strauss and Irving Krystol and have the comprehensive ability to know a neo-con when it stands before you.

By RE

January 27, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

ok Andy, since you know so much, how exactally will we win in Iraq, better yet, what is a victory.

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this

Democrats should nominate Bill Gates for prez!

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

AD…Who said I didn’t know what it meant? I just stated the fact that the word has started to be widely used in the past year, kind of like the Ebonics word of the month. Parrot hears it, parrot uses it all the time now. It’s like when a child learns a new word. They just want to say it all the time.

BTW does AD stand for Attention Deficit?

By Andy

January 27, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this

RE: If you didn’t have your head up your a-ss you would see victory in Iraq right now. When Iraqis start killing Al Qaeda like they are, it is called national pride. They want control of their country, they want America to stay and teach them how to defend their own soil.

Go ahead and call peaceful Islamic rule a bad thing. Go ahead and tell me that we should interfere with their choice of government. We’ve already won Iraq, it’s over. More people get shot to death on the streets of America, a supposed nation at peace, than do in Iraq. When you sissies gonna call America a quagmire?

By AD

January 27, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

An in regard to the Bush/Cheney crowd it should be commonly used because that is what they are. It aptly describes this administration and its agenda.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

Ya’ll need to say your sorry for supporting Dubya

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

Washington, D.C., is a quagmire.

By Daniel

January 27, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

The terrorists are bad people. The Iraq War invites malcontents to Southwest Asia and worsens terrorism in our world. Sadly, our government can manipulate American public opinion while lacking any political savvy in World Affairs. Name calling doesn’t help. Cowards talking about intestinal fortitude doesn’t help.

By AD

January 27, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

Similar to parrot hears Rush, Parrot regurgitates Rush, huh Grinch.

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Sorry AD, I work and don’t listen to Rush. What else ya got?

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Good thing they fixed that pharmacy debacleEverybody say thanks!

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

VoR, that is funny

By AD

January 27, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

getalife, that summation of the Bush legacy is right on the money. Excellent.

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

Funny but Sad Ricky!

By Daniel

January 27, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

You’ve been in front of the computer way too long. Get a job! You headcases have never done anything good for yourselves, much less America. Name one thing the fanatic religious have done that has been good for the country. You’re nothing but frightened, awkward, self-centered selfish b*stards.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this

Listen to these sissy hypocrite liberals. They will freak out over 30,000 deaths in a war that freed 25,000,000 people minimum from tyranny and all the while they will teach your kid how to become gay while AIDS is busy killing millions.

Sick, depraved degenerates.

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

VOR, your link is like your brain. It leads to nowhere….

By RE

January 27, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Seeing as we have already won, why are we still there?

And I would love to find that little statistic about more people being shot in the US than in iraq.

I think I have finally figured you out. You are not a republican or conservative or any political party, you are a militant nationalist. I think you would be just as supportive of Mao if you were chinese, Stalin if you were russian, Hitler if you were German. And probably Osama if you were Muslim. It took me a while to try to figure out how you had no core belief other than loyalty to one man, Bush. It is a mixture of arrogance, intolerance, pride and gullability that is blended just right for you.

By AD

January 27, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Then it must be telepathy, Grinch. Because you and Rush sure sound alot alike.

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this

Who’s gonna save us from our tyranny Andy. lol.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this

They will shut down the Senate, march in the street, spend billions of dollars, create hundreds of websites all to defend their “right” to kill 1,400,000 babies every year.

Sick, depraved degenerates.

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this

Repubs f-uk up again !. Hey Grinch - B-low me!

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

VOR, That would be impossible, liberals have no balls.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

RE: You are a mere child, that is obvious, so I will assist with your education, since the public system is apparently not helping at all:

One murder occurred in the United States every 32.6 minutes, and the murder rate dropped 3.3 percent to 5.5 per 100,000 people (16,137 offenses).

By AD

January 27, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

Exactly RE! Weak minded, easily manipulated folks like Andy and others of his ilk would be the very ones goose stepping right along with those guys. Furthermore, it is people like Andy that autocrats and despots use to impose tyranny on a populace.

By Dusty

January 27, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

Voice,

A quagmire in Washington? Exactly who is talking about a filibuster in Washington right now because a well-qualified judge may join the Supreme Court? Who put on a rediculous show during long questioning of said judge? What member of Congress openly endorsed “cut’n’run” in Iraq after voting in favor of that war? The answers to these questions are DEMOCRATS and that is how you should spell quagmire.

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

Grinch - I see you’ve joined the ranks of the retarded, inept losers too. What do balls have to do with b-lowing me? Maybe that’s part of your problem - relax and get laid - you won’t be such a p-rick.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

You really have to hear what they are saying to believe it:

I think you would be just as supportive of Mao if you were chinese, Stalin if you were russian, Hitler if you were German

Furthermore, it is people like Andy that autocrats and despots use to impose tyranny on a populace

I’ve been in here all of the last several months arguing, day after day, that the United States was right to invade Iraq and free the citizens from tyranny, anybody can check if they’d like to, listening to all kinds of kooks and crackpots tell me how great Saddam was, look at 12:58, 1:14, 1:24, 1:34 and now I’m the one who supports dictators???????

Is this for real?

By bgirl

January 27, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

Congratulations, Bushie! Your unprovoked attack on Iraq and the subsequent illegal occupation has spread democracy in the Middle East: Religious Shiites in control of Iraq and Iran, Eygpt and Lebanon moving toward radical religious extremists, and Hammas being democratically elected in Palestine! Way to go!

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

Furthermore, it is people like Andy that autocrats and despots use to impose tyranny on a populace

AD have you ever seen the comedy show In Living Color? Your post remind me of the Damon Wayans character, the drunk holding a jar of urine and speaking in big words like “my imagination is leading to my pontification of the realization that Im drunk”

By AD

January 27, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

Are there no moderates left? It seems that hard core idealogues on both sides dictate the direction our country goes in. As long as the idealogues reign supreme, this country will be totally devoid of meaningful progress that serves the nation as a whole. The last place an idealogue belongs is the Supreme Court.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

bgirl: Do you think we should impose our religious will on their freely elected governments?

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

Dusty - Did I point a finger? I simply said Washington, D.C., is a quagmire! Am I wrong, or are you just looking to point fingers?! Nevertheless, your little rant is only part of the reason D.C., is a quagmire. The budget, prescription drugs, retarded tax breaks, those are spelled REPUBLICAN..

By Andy

January 27, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this

Unbridled lunacy:

By AD

January 27, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

Are there no moderates left? It seems that hard core idealogues on both sides dictate the direction our country goes in. As long as the idealogues reign supreme, this country will be totally devoid of meaningful progress that serves the nation as a whole. The last place an idealogue belongs is the Supreme Court.

By AD

January 27, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

Exactly RE! Weak minded, easily manipulated folks like Andy and others of his ilk would be the very ones goose stepping right along with those guys. Furthermore, it is people like Andy that autocrats and despots use to impose tyranny on a populace.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

Texas said they sre sorry for voting Bush

By RE

January 27, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

interesting stat, completely wrong however.

assuming 25mil population, 30k killed over 3 years, that would be a rate of 0.04%

In the US we have a rate of 5.5 per 100k, so that would be 0.0055%.

So the death rate is actually about 8 times that of the US.

nice try though

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

Wow, this blog certainly has gotten nasty today.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

getalife, BigDaddy prefers that you post pictures of pretty nubiles only, please…

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

VOR, if you are against tax cuts you must be in the lower pay class who don’t get them because you pay no income tax and only feed off the taxes other people pay. Like 60% of the democratic party.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

BD,

This one has morals

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

Grinch - Why do you insist on being retarded? I actually claimed taxes on $80,000 plus last year, and a little more than that last year. I’m against tax cuts because they only support the extremely wealthy and continue to cripple hard-working, middle class people like me.

I don’t feed off of anyone and I’m not a democrat - so take your generalizations and go f-uk yourself.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

getalife, looks like Nagin was right - N’Awlins will be a chocolate city again - white chocolate

By AD

January 27, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

Such educational T.V. you watch Grinch.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this

getalife, funny pic - she’s lounging, sprawled out in bed, in a brasseire, lecturing on morality. Is she being ironic or did she dye her blonde hair?

By Midori

January 27, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

Grinch,

I’m a Democrat who is not poor and not in the lower class pay who opposes Bush’s tax cuts.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

Here you go, be prepared

By AD

January 27, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

Andy, anyone who would buy Bush’s BS would have no trouble at all buying Mao’s or Stalin’s. Castro would love to welcome you to Cuba.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

BD,

Speaking of New Orleans

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

AD, so you are for paying more taxes just to stick it the wealthy or are you for raising the taxes on the wealthy and leaving your taxes cut? Souds like a Liberal Democrat to me….

And do you think I am going to believe a income amount posted by someone on a internet board?

Did I mention I made 3 billion last year? haha

By Midori

January 27, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

First the Democratic party is “full of Liberal elite” who drinks expensive wine and eats expensive cheese.

Now the Democratic party is composed of 60% in the lower pay class who don’t get them because you pay no income tax and only feed off the taxes other people pay.

I don’t get it.

Do these numbers/observations change with the day of the week?

By Midori

January 27, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

If I made 3 billion dollars, I’d sure have better things to do than post on a cartoonists internet blog.

Like 3 billion other things.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Brokeback Mountain

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

Voice of Reason, I concur with your assessment of the domestic boondoggle the current Republicans have gotten us into in regards to the Medicare prescription drug coverage and the budget. The Republicans have developed a Democrat-on-crack spending habit and should all be ashamed that they have strayed so far from the fiscal discipline that has long been the hallmark of the GOP.

I disagree with you on the tax cuts - tax cuts have always been beneficial to the economy; the problem is spending, not revenue (tax revenue has risen as a result of the tax cuts).

As an aside, you have displayed critical thinking skills, but when you delve into blog-cursing, you don’t sound like a Voice of Reason at all…

By AD

January 27, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

Grinch, are you hitting the crack pipe today? I have said absolutely nothing about taxes.

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

Grinch - I figured I’d give it a try since you are obviously gullable enough to believe Bush’s garbage.

Who cares what you believe about someone’s income - the point is you are WRONG! So keep digging and try to make sense.

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this

Midori, you are confusing the subject. Most critics argue that the Democratic party is controlled by the Liberal Elite(Kerry, Kennedy, Clinton, Pelosi, Reid etc) who claim to represent the “average man”, even though they have never had to work a hard day in their lifes. So in theory, you could have both statements being true.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this

getalife, both of those last three links are awful. I’m shocked, shocked, I tell you. And amused…

By getalife

January 27, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

Got me a fresh batch of meds, feel real good!

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

Midori, I hope you are kidding and didn’t take the 3 billion pay serious. But then again I bet you did. You did didn’t you?

Where did the “Democratic party is “full of Liberal eliteâ€? who drinks expensive wine and eats expensive cheese” come from? I know I did not say that.

You liberals are so gullible…

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

getalife, puff, puff, give. Puff, puff, give. Stop bogartin’…

By Midori

January 27, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

you’re the last person to comment on “confusion”.

How’s the Mystery Machine holding up?

And just what are your “elites” made up of?

I’ve seen you constantly claim that you are neither Democrat or Republican, but you sure show up to enforce and spread the Republican mantra.

You have absolutely no credibility with me.

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy - Good to see we are on the same page, sort of! But tax cuts for the wealthy don’t necessarily benefit the economy because the middle class is getting screwed. The rich are gonna be rich and the poor are probably going to stay poor. You want to see the economy BOOM, give some relief to the middle class, who happen to make up the majority, and watch our wives spend some money. Rich people don’t spend money, they are treated! (It’s a joke, but think about it!)

As far as my blog-cursing goes, who gives a s-hit.

By Midori

January 27, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

Of course I took it seriously — why wouldn’t I?

Are you to say that every thing else you post is a lie as well?

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

Sorry AD, I got you mixed up with VOR. You all sound the same ya know.

By Midori

January 27, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

Grinch - I didn’t say “you”, exclusively said that about Democratic elites.

It’s something your party constantly spouts.

You guys are pretty much “one for all and all for one” when it comes to spreading your “views”.

By AD

January 27, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

Yea Grinch…kinda like all you little Rushniks.

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

And to answer your question Grinch, I’m for a national sales tax or fair tax (whatever the hell it’s called). Let me spend my hard earned money where I want to.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 02:55 PM | Link to this

Voice of Reason, I’m now debating whether I want to hold class on basic economic principles, property rights as a fundamental foundation for a free society, and optimum tax policy to demonstrate unequivocally that any tax cut to any net taxpayer is economically beneficial to society. But it’s Friday afternoon, and at this point in the week, I’ll echo the last four words of your blog-curse…

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Midori, don’t worry you have no credibility with me either. I have said many times that I am a conservative, but don’t identify with this administration because I disagree with them on mnay things. The “elite” that control the Dem party in my opinion consist of people born with a silver spoon in their mouth who have never had to work a hard day in their life, yet claim to represent the average man that they have no connection to(and before you ask, yes I include people like Bush in this group.)

By Voice of Reason

January 27, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Thanks for sparing me BigDaddy. But someday, maybe next week, you hold your little mini-seminar and explain to me how the working, middle-class is getting screwed.

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

Midori, are you for real? You cannot distinguish sarcasm from a factual statement? That just might be the problem with you Liberals. You have no rational thinking brain. It’s all automatic. Geeeez

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

Voice of Reason, don’t sell BigDaddy short. BigDaddy does nothing “little” or “mini”…

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

I’m glad I have no credibility with you — shows I’m doing something right.

Say “hi” to Velma and Scrappy Doo for me.

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

Yes, Grinch — I am for real.

But it appears that you are not.

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

VoR, I am with you on the national sales tax

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

speaking of not having rational brain capacity

By The Grinch

January 27, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

Midori… that’s sad. I bet it sucks being you. I bet you hate every thing. Sorry…

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

Grinch,

I was just observing the very same thoughts about you.

Isn’t it amazing how that works?

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

The Grinch, that’s not true - Midori loves buff…

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this

I can’t say I hate “everything”.

I hate being cold and wet.

I hate weak coffee.

I hate being lectured by ignorant blow hards.

My needs are simple.

By Brian Curtis

January 27, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this

Grinch: You should be grateful for the “neocon” label. It’s more polite than the much-more-accurate term fascist.

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

LOL!!

BigDaddy!!! :)

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

Midori, why wasn’t The Daily Show included in that study. I’m not kidding when I say that’s the only televised “news” program I watch. And we all know that BigDaddy knows more than anyone about everything! Thanks, John Stewart!

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy — give me a break.

The Daily Show is a “fake” news show.

It’s a comedy show.

Stop it, now.

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

Midori, you are funny. I have never seen you post anything positive about a Republican, conservative, or anyone not a liberal. To me that makes you an ideologue that blindly follows one party. Thats why you have no credibility with me

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy,

you know what’s funny?

I also post on Free Republic.

When “The Colbert Report” aired, they were all happy and orgasmic.

That is, before they realized Colbert was mocking them and their heros.

I got a big kick out of that.

By Dusty

January 27, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

We have so many turn around liberals.

They make one statement. The next post claims they didn’t say that.

The war in Iraq was not necessary because Sadaam was not Osama. But their representatives in Congress voted FOR war.

They want those “criminal-like” rich people to pay higher taxes. Yet they nominate and elect only rich people for Demo posts.

They know this country had a great and expensive NATURAL disaster. They know the war they voted for is expensive. But Republicans alone have wrecked the budget.

Democrats are delaying every motion and movement in Congress. But it is the fault of Republicans simply because Republicans elected a Republican president.

And we are supposed to listen to the ineffectual whining of liberals?

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis, I see you are back to name calling. Thats very big of you.

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

I am many things.

Yet, so are you.

I reserve the time to enumerate at a later date.

Scooby, Scooby Doo!!!

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

Midori, what? The Daily Show isn’t real? Dam-n my eyes! All this time, I’ve been misled into fake journalism. It’s scandalous! B-astards!

At least The Daily Show proudly trumpets their fake newsiness. Unlike Mary Mapes, Dan Rather and Jason Blair…

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

Wah!!!

I have no credibility with Ricky!!

Wah!!

Oh!! my world!!

my world!!!

I have no credibility with a little ill informed loser who thinks he’s the alter ego of Fred from The Scooby Doo Show!!

Wah!!!

Just what will I do???

WHAT WILL I DO!!!!????

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

getalife, you were so kind to treat us to the links in your “favorites” pull-down the other day. As such, knowing your predilictions, did you post this on craigslist?

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:24 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy,

you’re losing me here.

If I recall correctly, the Daily Show routinely decribes itself as a fake news show.

I hardly see what they have to do with the other strawmen that you have tossed at me.

Sorry.

By buff

January 27, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis

You think libs are better education?

As a so-called “person of higher education,” let me assure you that college profs, I am one, have not, nor will they ever , corner the market on wisdom

Most are highly educated in one, sometimes two, areas, but, that does not mean that they are smarter than the guy or gal out there on a blue collar job

Frankly, I know many in academe who, if not for their current position, would perhaps be working at a Starbucks, a Barnes & Noble or be on welfare; they have no truly marketable skills. Many would be dysfunctional in the “real world.”

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy,

I don’t think this is the time or place to get into font size and ledding.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this

Midori, I’s just funnin. Read getalife’s lamentation I just linked to. Poor fella has some high expectations…

By buff

January 27, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

Midori

Feeling better?

Why do you oppose tax cuts? They stimulate the economy

Plus, it is MY money

Milton Friedman noted that any time money is taken out of Washington D.C. that is a good thing

By Dusty

January 27, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

Midori,

You do cut the bland out of blogs.

But you do LIKE wine & cheese?

I can tell you feel better and back in shape. Maybe not quite as caustic as usual. Probably Big Daddy’s cunning charm.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

Dusty, BigDaddy is only a cunning linguist. Charm is absolutely superfluous as long as you are a cunning linguist.

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

Midori, just like yourself you went back to calling names. You get in a debate you can’t win and start slinging slurs.

By Midori

January 27, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this

LOL

Big Daddy and Buff have brought me back from the abyss :)

Gotta go fellas - I need some food and there is nothing here to eat :)

Maybe I’ll pick up some wine and cheese :)

By RE

January 27, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this

Molly ivins:

“What would happen if we had not a political, but a pragmatic debate about all of this: We have made a horrible mess of this entire war on terrorism, now how do we fix it? What do we do? I realize it’s a bit simplistic of me after all this time, but I really think one of the best things we could do for ourselves is deal honestly with the facts. Because we have made a mess of this does not mean we are a pitiful, helpless giant — the United States still has more sheer military power than anyone else on earth. But using it is not necessarily the best way to get the results we want.”

By Daniel

January 27, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

No, not hardly, it’s not your money. It’s Chinese money. And, your borrowing it from your children and grandchildren. USA borrows two billion dollars a day to keep you fat, dumb and happy.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

Midori, just for you, Ed Helms, of The Daily Show discusses DC’s coc with shocking results…

By Ricky

January 27, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

RE, do you except Molly Ivins as a objective observer? How many books has she written bashing this administration. She is a whore for the left. She is no better than the talking heads on the right

By Daniel

January 27, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this

Now, now, name calling doesn’t help. What is wrong with a “pragmatic debate”?

By RE

January 27, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this

Ricky, A persons political leanings gives them no more or less credibility for their ideas. It does not matter if it is Moureen Dowd or Pat Buchannan, occasionaly a good idea will pop up.

By Dusty

January 27, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this

Ah, Big Daddy, ONLY a cunning linguist? That I doubt very much. How’s the new job? Does it interfere with your jaunts on the bridge?

By the way, where is RW? Is he out burying a pig somewhere? Building a fire over it and dancing around in circles? I’m glad he is conservative. Just think what he might be doing otherwise.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

RE, That’s a great way to begin a “pragmatic debate” First you have to accept her premise and then Ivins will discuss it with you. Don’t you find that a little disingenuous?

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this

Dusty, you’re right, BigDaddy was being coy. The new job is fantastic, thank you very much - loin cloths, bridges and January don’t mix very well, even in the South.

Last I saw RW, he mentioned being thirsty and needing to catch a flight to New Guinea…

(I’m glad he’s conservative, too. I’m even happier that he’s a South Park conservative and can take a joke…)

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

I wondered why my ears were burning, I thought it was an emanation from the imu.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

RW, how was your trip?

By RE

January 27, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

ok, a few questions:

Are there more or less terrorist attack now as opposed to before the war

Is there more anti-american sentiment now or before the war.

Are there more militant islamists in power now or before the war

Is the country more divided now or before the war

Are we in more debt now or before the war

What constitutes success in your mind, and what would you consider “a mess”?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

You should be talking to Dusty about Guineas, she’ll have that thing swimming in BBQ sauce before you hit post.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

It wasn’t nearly as exotic as you make it sound, but then I detoured to Tonga to see Sonia.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

RW, now that’s sounding much more enticing, you scamp. Was she kind enough to deviate from her cardinal rule?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

I had to confess to my lesbian tendencies and it was smooth sailing from there.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

RW, good move. I applaud your triumphant return. You’re such a d**. And for the record, I’m not name-calling; I’m using accurate descriptive terms…

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

RW, and by d**, I meant a term for a dam, or wall that is commonly used in the Netherlands to hold back the sea…

By buff

January 27, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

Hmm, culd ml be Molly Ivins in drag?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

Usually one usually has to be able to see a descriptive term to judge it, but I’ll take your word for it.

By Daniel

January 27, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

RE: Careful, you’re making sense. They will not and cannot rspond. Me? I can’t pretend anymore.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

The only deception came in when I kept being asked if I ever took that thing off.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

buff, good question, I’ve always assumed that The Scribbler was separated at birth from Michael Keaton…

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this

Daniel & RE,

It’s Friday afternoon for goodness sakes, we can play with your “why does the world hate us” bs anytime.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

RW, who can’t relate to having a Hillary Swank-type moment like that…

By Dusty

January 27, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

RW (the original),

Emanations from the IMU? What did you bury, RW? Hogzilla? Don’t believe I want a taste, thank you.

You and Big Daddy will have to explain to me the difference between a South Park Conservative and a regular conserative. The emanations have impeded my cognitive ruminations.

By RE

January 27, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

Actually I was talking about numbers not feelings. how would you measure success?

If you had a war on crime and crime rates went up, chances are you are doing it wrong

If you had a war on poverty and more people became poor, same thing.

If you have a war on terrorism and terrorist attacks increase….

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

Ummm….maybe most everone?

By buff

January 27, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy

You could be right

Ivins wants you to accept that the war on terror “is a mess.” Aren’t wars always a mess? Nam sure was

IF you accept that premise, she has you. I do not accept her point

And, we will have to deal with Hamas and Iran

By RE

January 27, 2006 04:28 PM | Link to this

Gee buff, weren’t they just democratically elected?

By buff

January 27, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

RE

Yes, rather scary to me

I mean, shucks, Ted Kennedy has been elected, what eight times?

RE

Was this a rejection of Arafat’s regime?

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

Dusty, a South Park conservative is one that is freed from the traditional stodginess with which conservatives had been associated (think Judge Smails in Caddyshack)

A South Park conservative is much more libertarian - they enjoy and engage in bawdy humor as a matter of course (without decrying it as destructive to “family values”), while at the same time remaining fiscally conservative. The genesis of the term comes from the show South Park, whose creators, through the show, espouse essentially libertarian ideas while skewering pols on both sides of the aisle (but particularly goring “progressives”) all the time putting out some of the most offensive material to ever be broadcast on non-premium cable.

Hope that helps!

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

RE,

Trying to change the Middle East for the good of the World was certain to increase terror attacks in the short term. Things like Spain backing down as soon as they were attacked ensured more attacks. Watching people voting in free elections were bound to increase terror attacks in the short term.

The long term solution is to show them the only thing they respect, which is best summed up by Toby Keith. A boot up their a-ss will get their attention.

Surrender ensures more terror attacks in the long term.

Now I am going to open an icy cold beverage and resume my Friday.

By Dusty

January 27, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

Nobody answered RE’s questions because it has been done so many times before. We are all waiting patiently for something new to pop up. So, cheer up, buddy. The sky has not fallen yet.

I’m off to bake cornbread in case RW drops by with his underground barbque. I have the ipecaq ready.

By Midori

January 27, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

God, I’d give anything for a big bowl of wonton soup.

May I ask a question?

This thing about Ann Coulter suggesting that a SCOTUS judge be poisioned: how do you feel about that?

By RE

January 27, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

it seems that it was a rejection of arafat and abbas. apparently the people of palestine rejected a secular government trying to negotiate a peaceful solution. Now we have an islamic fundamentalist government that openly advocates the destruction of Isreal.

But I thought democratic countries were always peaceful?

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

Midori, it depends on which judge…

And on that note, in the inimitable words of Dunwoody’s own Ryan Seacrest (and just to make RW envious): BigDaddy out!

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Did you see cornbread anywhere on that feast I sent you? Underground BBQ, hmm…wasn’t their an above ground rib house there?

By lol

January 27, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

A USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll taken last weekend and interviews across the country this week found most Americans pessimistic about the economy, divided on the war and doubtful that Bush has the best plan to address the issues that matter most to them — among them health care and corruption.

By more than 2-to-1, those surveyed say things have gotten worse in the United States over the past five years.

…. even conservatives divide 47%-44% on whether things have gotten better or worse.

The country’s downbeat mood poses a challenge for the president as he tries to command support for the legislative agenda he’ll unveil for his sixth year in office. With a 43% approval rating, he is in “a weakened position trying to convince Congress to do whatever it is in the State of the Union that he wants them to do,” says Charles Franklin of the University of Wisconsin.

• Said the country has gotten off track. By 62%-35%, they were dissatisfied with the way things are going in the USA. That’s the most pessimistic view at the start of a year since Bush took office.

• Questioned Bush’s leadership. By 64%-34%, they said Bush didn’t have a clear plan for solving the country’s problems. The president received his strongest approval rating, 52%, on fighting terrorism. But on health care — ranked as an issue equal to the economy — congressional Democrats were more trusted, 54%-35%.

By RE

January 27, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

Leave the foreign policy up to Toby Keith.. thanks RW.

By Midori

January 27, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy: do you really mean that? Do you actually condone murder based on political persuasion?

By Andy

January 27, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

lol: What about that stock market, clown? I gained another 5% this week.

By Daniel

January 27, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

RE: I told you so. Ok, ok, let’s make this real easy. You don’t have to answer the last. Here’s a hint: All can be answered with one word.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

RE,

As Andy pointed out earlier, now they can’t hide behind the lie that a fringe terror group called Hamas is behind attacking Israel. Now Hamas can just declare war and get annihilated.

By BigDaddy

January 27, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

Midori, come on, of course not! BigDaddy only condones murder of those justices that abhor the Constitution by treating it as a “living, breathing” document. And those that oppose private property rights (see Kelo v. New London).

And by murder, I mean rhetorical murder. Or flaming bags of poo on door steps. Or some combination thereof…

And, now really, BigDaddy out!

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this

Midori,

BigDaddy’s post says nothing of political persuasion. Where did you get this latest crackpot accusation?

By Andy

January 27, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

What Ann said wasn’t right, she meant it as a joke and said that immediately. But killing is nothing to joke about. That is stooping to the liberal’s level. We are better then that. She should apologize.

By RE

January 27, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

They do seem to be dancing all over that one daniel, kinda strange.

RW you may be right, but if you are will you please concede the notion that “democracy makes a country peaceful” is false. Sharansky wrote a very nice book with a good philosphical arguement, which we are seeing does not play out in reality

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

If you didn’t have premature evacuations I wouldn’t answer for you. Are you really gone now?

By buff

January 27, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this

Midori

Have yuo ever tried a merlot called Smoking Loon?

By Midori

January 27, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

RW - pot calling the crackpot black.

Perhaps you would do well to mind your own business and stay out of others’ conversations.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

RE,

We go through the same discussions every day so any resemblance to dancing around this issue should be seen as new and exciting. If you want the same answers to the same questions just go read a different thread.

A true democracy does tend to make a country much more peaceful, but that doesn’t begin until they have had usually many years of practice, it’s people need to have some economic freedom, there needs to be property rights, and most importantly they need to go through a few elections that result in a peaceful transferance of power.

Nobody has said, have an election and everything is wine and roses from day one.

By Midori

January 27, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

no I haven’t Buff.

I just googled it, and it sounds heavenly.

I love Merlot.

I’m going to have to try it.

I dated a bartender years ago, and he got me to drinking only dry wines.

Sweet wines give me a hangover/headache.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this

Now I know where RE gets his ideas from:

“Perhaps Prof. Liu put it best, of the Berkeley law school, when he wrote this: He said, Judge Alito’s record envisions an America where police may shoot and kill an unarmed boy to stop him from running away with a stolen purse; where federal agents point guns at ordinary citizens during a raid, even after no sign of resistance; where the FBI may install a camera where you sleep on the promise that they won’t turn it on unless the informant is in the room; where a black man may be sentenced to death by an all-white jury for killing a white man absent any kind of multiple regression analysis or other analysis of potential discrimination; and where police may search—I paraphrased that last sentence; it reads precisely ‘absent a multiple regression analysis showing discrimination’—and where police may search what a warrant, may search and define what a warrant permits and then some. This is not the America we know, he says, nor is it the America we aspire to be.”—John Kerry* Jan. 27, 2006*

By Daniel

January 27, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this

” Compassionate Conservative”, “Reformer with Results”, “Mission Accomplished”, “A New kind of Republican”, “The USa should Not be a Nation builder”, “Bring ‘em on!”, “I’ll balance the budget”, “The war will cost 1 Billion, it will be paid by Iraqi oil.”, “The war will be over in three months!”The insurgency is in it’s last throes…”, “Heckuva job Brownie”, “The Iraqi’s will greet us with flowers in the streets” People who support the Republicanbs are “Troglodytes, morons and monkey’s”

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

Midori,

By Midori

January 27, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

God, I’d give anything for a big bowl of wonton soup.

May I ask a question?

This thing about Ann Coulter suggesting that a SCOTUS judge be poisioned: how do you feel about that?

So you are having a blog coversation with God?

By getalife

January 27, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

Daniel,

You forgot culture of corruption.

By Midori

January 27, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this

And if you will scroll up, RW, you will see that Big Daddy responded to me and he and I were having a conversation.

You’re just like Ricky.

Always shooting off at the mouth, and always willing to jump in and cheerlead.

You don’t look good in a skirt.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this

AAAAHHHHHH…..I love Merlot, am the same age as Midori, used to tend bar, and always recommended dry wines to my dates……NNNOOOOOOOOO…

By lol

January 27, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

DAVOS, Switzerland (FORTUNE) - Be afraid. Be very afraid.

That’s the message from two of the world’s most successful investors on the topic of high oil prices. One of them, Hermitage Capital’s Bill Browder, has outlined six scenarios that could take oil up to a downright terrifying $262 a barrel. Investor George Soros says Iran is heading for a confrontation with the West.

Billionaire investor George Soros, wouldn’t make any specific predictions about prices. But as a legendary commodities player, it’s worth paying heed to the words of the man who once took on the Bank of England — and won. “I’m very worried about the supply-demand balance, which is very tight,” Soros says.

“U.S. power and influence has declined precipitously because of Iraq and the war on terror and that creates an incentive for anyone who wants to make trouble to go ahead and make it.” As an example, Soros pointed to the regime in Iran, which is heading towards a confrontation with the West over its nuclear power program and doesn’t show any signs of compromising. “Iran is on a collision course and I have a difficulty seeing how such a collision can be avoided,” he says.

By RE

January 27, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

Actually, from GWB: We’re talking about a part of the world in which, uhh, you know, our foreign policy was, let’s just hope for the best and tolerate the fact there’s no free societies. And — what ended up happening was, there was a — tyrants have emerged, tyrants that threatened our security. And so not only was the action worth it, the action is worth it to make sure that democracy exists, and, uhh, because democracies will yield peace, and that’s what we want.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

Today’s New York Times carries the results of a poll on the kerfuffle over surveillance of terrorists. According to the Times, the poll finds that “public opinion about the trade-offs between national security and individual rights is nuanced and remains highly unresolved.” Translated into English, this means that the public is on the opposite side of the issue from the Times.

Answer: 68% are willing, just 29% not willing—and by the way, the number who are willing is up, from 63% in 2003 and 56% in 2005. It’s possible that by revealing the surveillance program, the Times succeeded in both damaging national security and diminishing public support for “civil liberties.”

By Daniel

January 27, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

gal: There’s a lot I’ve forgetten.

By Daniel

January 27, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

RE: “…and we’ll send your kids to die. We won’t send ours though. We have other rpiorities.”

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Scrolled back dear, found that you asked an open question for anyones thoughts, got one response from BigDaddy that also said he was leaving.

Some conversation.

You then asked a question that you did in fact address to BigDaddy, who had of course said he left. I decided I would find out where you got this information so we could discuss it. When I posted I saw that BigDaddy had in fact returned and responded.

KMA

By buff

January 27, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

Midori, RW

Smoking Loon is great, and cheap too, only $7 at Costco

I do not know great deal about wine, but know what I like. I have begun to make wine from kits, and it is not bad. Only costs about $2 a bottle

By Andy

January 27, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

lol: Is it alright if I add this to the end of your post?: “Until all this happens, which it may never, since none of their predictions have, America’s economy will continue to boom.”

By getalife

January 27, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

Ya’ll are slipping, nothing on Murtha today?

Check out what he says about Hillary.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You could go back up ^ ^ to 11:06.

By Daniel

January 27, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

gal: Thanks for the post.

By buff

January 27, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

Have any of you heard Saddam’s former top military dog/adviser proclaim that Iraq DID have WMDs and moved them to Syria?

And, if you have not seen “Team America: World Peace,” it is a must see

The South Park creators made the movie

By getalife

January 27, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

RW,

I guess you are not slipping.

Your welcome Daniel.

Back to nodding out.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

buff,

Saddam’s Secrets. I wouldn’t take it as complete gospel, though. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s true, but it conveniently confirms a lot of things one that is trying to sell a book might want to confirm.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Did they give you different meds?

By buff

January 27, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

RW

Very true. Heck, enough anthrax to kill ten million people could be put in one suitcase, or, so I heard that airbag Neal Boortz say

By RE

January 27, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

Andy, here is another poll for you: A new Zogby poll indicates a majority of Americans want Congress to consider impeaching President Bush if he wiretapped American citizens without a judge’s approval.

Respondents were asked if they agreed or disagreed with the following statement:

“If President Bush wiretapped American citizens without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment.”

The poll found that 52 percent agreed, 43 percent disagreed and 6 percent said they didn’t know or declined to answer.

“The American people are not buying Bush’s outrageous claim that he has the power to wiretap American citizens without a warrant,” said Bob Fertik, co-founder of the left-leaning group AfterDowningStreet.org which commissioned the survey. “Americans believe terrorism can be fought without turning our own government into Big Brother.”

The poll interviewed 1,216 adults in the U.S. from Jan. 9-12, and has a 2.9 percent margin of error.

As one might expect, the respondents’ political affiliation played a role in their answer, as 66 percent of Democrats favored impeachment, as did 59 percent of Independents, but only 23 percent of Republicans.

One month ago, one-third of Americans polled by Rasmussen Reports said they believe Bush should be impeached

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this

buff,

That is technically true, but if it was refined that finely and in a suitcase. Nobody handling that suitcase is going to last very long.

This is a good economical Merlot. Not $7.00 economical, but not outrageous.

By mikeislame

January 27, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this

Luckovich demonstrates his utter ignorance again. None of the data requested of Google by the government was personally identifiable. It was simply a text string of terms searched for and the results they produced.

Luckovich is like most liberals in that he is too lazy to gather any fact before he starts his mindless criticism.

Frankly, if any of you great supporters of privacy were sincere in your concerns, you would be going after Google itself. We are all much more likely to have our privacy invaded by individuals and companies researching us through google than we are to be the subject of a government survellience. But liberals really don’t care about privacy any more than they care about expanding presidential authority, the Patriot Act, unlateralism or any of thier other excuses for their lame partisan attacks. They just see another excuse to criticize an adminstration they have hated prior to its election.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 05:47 PM | Link to this

I provide links with my comments:

Zogby Polling Seeks Damage Control After Election Day Flub

Go to this one if you want to see a kook who has a lot of time on his hands:

AfterDowningStreet.org

They don’t seem to be too proud of that Zogby poll, either.

By RE

January 27, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

Sorry about that Andy

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48358

World net daily, damn liberal media bias

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

Well that’s certainly not a loaded poll question, is it?

“If President Bush wiretapped American citizens without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment.”

How about:

“If President Bush wiretapped al Queda terrorists without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment.”

By mikeislame

January 27, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

RE:

Wow that is really amazing considering that a poll by the liberally-biased NY Times “found that 53 percent of Americans approved of Mr. Bush’s authorizing eavesdropping without prior court approval”

Keep on dreaming, and Republicans will keep winning elections.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/27/politics/27poll.html?hp&ex=1138424400&en=b93f38e07b4d88d0&ei=5094&partner=homepage

By RE

January 27, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

Just out of curiosity, are there any laws that do apply to GWB, or are we going for a full on monarchy?

By Midori

January 27, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this

I owe RW an apology — I shouldn’t have gone off on you like that.

However, if you were familiar with the story (which, by the way, you could have asked), you will see that Coulter’s murder joke was based on political ideaology

By blogger

January 27, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this

“lost your concentration?” right. this is fundamental stupidity.

By Andy

December 26, 2005 04:27 PM | Link to this

blogger: What branch of government does the Attorney General belong to?

By blogger

December 26, 2005 04:32 PM | Link to this

Andy, why don’t you do some research for once if you don’t know?

By Andy

December 26, 2005 04:37 PM | Link to this

The Judiciary. Bush had the Attorney General review his actions. Bill Clinton had Jamie Gorelick, his deputy Attorney General review his wiretapping surveillance. Why do you say that it hasn’t been reviewed for legality by the Judicial Branch if it has been? Are you just going with the impeach Bush line, like some silly sap?

By blogger

December 26, 2005 04:49 PM | Link to this

Andy, gee, I always thought that the Attorney General is a member of the President’s cabinet who serves at the pleasure of the President, and is a member of the Executive Branch of government? Did you just say that the Attorney General is a member of the Judicial Branch of government???????

By Andy

December 26, 2005 05:00 PM | Link to this

It figures, I’m dealing with a lightweight, a hysterical one at that.

The Attorney General compromises the Justice Department, specifically- the Attorney General was to be “learned in the law� with the duty “to prosecute and conduct all suits in the Supreme Court in which the United States shall be concerned, and to give his advice and opinion upon questions of law when required by the President of the United States in other words a member of the Judiciary.

It should have been easy for you when I tipped Bill Clinton’s use of Jamie Gorelick to review the legality of his surveillance activities. You must not be capable of complex reasoning. Do you get all your ideas from Michael Moore? Why am I discussing this with you and not him? Wouldn’t it save time?

By blogger

December 26, 2005 05:10 PM | Link to this

Andy, I can’t believe how completely stupid you are. Take a few minutes to familiarize yourself with the organizational chart of our federal government. You’ll see that under “Executive Branch� is the “Department of Justice,� which the Attorney General heads. Also, if you would happen to read a little further into your own link you would see that the Department of Justice is “an executive department of the government of the United States� with the Attorney General as its head, or in other words, the Executive Branch. You’re a moron, Andy. You are utterly stupid, and a complete waste of time.

By Republican National Commitee

January 26, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this

As the Cold War ended 15 years ago, we would like to request our sheeplike followers to update their name-calling from “commie� and “pinko.� We suggest “liberoterrorist� and “Muslim-hugger.� Thank you.

By getalife

January 26, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

Dubya just got attacked by a camera.

By AntiRadical

January 26, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

Andy: I can’t believe that you of all people would support the Iraqi women “prisoner exchange�. I guess al-Queda is an official government now that we are “negotiating� and “exchanging prisoners�. That’s not giving them tacit authenticity or authority though, is it? We held these Iraqi women for months/years. Why do we release them, now, when it can only appear to the terrorist cabals that we are doing so from fear/weakness ‘cause we were ORDERED to release them? Terrorists have no government or country so why do we treat them as if they had legitimate world standing as a rightful government? Nothing good can ever come from what might even appear to be capitulation with terrorists. We’re now stuck fast to an intolerable effort that we cannot win or quit. What a great place to be!

By RE

January 27, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

Press conference yesterday:

“THE PRESIDENT: May I — if I might, you said that I have to circumvent it. There — wait a minute. That’s a — there’s something — it’s like saying, you know, you’re breaking the law. I’m not. See, that’s what you’ve got to understand. I am upholding my duty, and at the same time, doing so under the law and with the Constitution behind me. That’s just very important for you to understand.

Secondly, the FISA law was written in 1978. We’re having this discussion in 2006. It’s a different world. And FISA is still an important tool. It’s an important tool. And we still use that tool. But also — and we — look — I said, look, is it possible to conduct this program under the old law? And people said, it doesn’t work in order to be able to do the job we expect us to do.

And so that’s why I made the decision I made. And you know, “circumventing” is a loaded word, and I refuse to accept it, because I believe what I’m doing is legally right. “

Just out of curiosity, if you wanted to do something but it was not allowed by the laws on the books, and then you did it anyway… what would you be.

If you break the law, then you are a criminal, but he just went outside the law, I guess that makes GWB an OUTlaw, melds nicely with the cowboy thing he has going

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I did ask, that’s when you went off. My apologies to you as well.

By RE

January 27, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this

Blogger, I think you made your point, you can stop that now.

By mikeislame

January 27, 2006 06:16 PM | Link to this

RE - Yeah that’s it. Bush is an outlaw. That makes sense.

I tell you what. Someday lame zingers will be the real poltical currency and the liberals will run the country. Until then, I guess the conservatives will have to continue to do the job. LOL.

By Midori

January 27, 2006 06:17 PM | Link to this

ok, come on RW.

you didn’t ask.

you insulted me.

but in any event, I’m sorry.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

RE,

The Judiciary committee has hearings coming to decide if any law was broken. What more do you expect at this point?

You set up a straw man that the President has broken the law and then claim anyone that says maybe he did not break a law is excusing his violation.

It’s just like that nutty Molly Ivins debate from earlier.

By RE

January 27, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this

Well, what do you call it when a person wants to do something, finds out it is not allowed under law, then does it anyway?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 06:22 PM | Link to this

Midori,

It’s only a minor technical point, but I insulted the accusation not you. Now that it turns out we used to date it explains alot though.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 06:22 PM | Link to this

Time for a change

Of course, you can find it on my blog

By Midori

January 27, 2006 06:25 PM | Link to this

Now that it turns out we used to date it explains alot though.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

One thing about you — you have a great sense of humor!!

By Andy

January 27, 2006 06:25 PM | Link to this

Let’s see if we can find out why I was so bored that day and lost my concentration:

By blogger

December 26, 2005 02:09 PM | Link to this

Andy, your true ignorance has been revealed if you think the tax code encourages people to become gay. Nothing you can say has any credibility. I guess that’s a Christian/Taliban Fundamentalist thing.

By blogger

December 26, 2005 02:16 PM | Link to this

the ability to do so would give him massive, unchecked power with no oversight from the judiciary. Or in other words, dictator-like powers, even if he did not choose to exercise them malevolently’

By blogger

December 26, 2005 03:08 PM | Link to this

You may want to at least put your disgusting child porn collection in a closet or under a blanket. Otherwise, you may be going to prison for a long, long, time if that criminal suspect flees into your house.

By blogger

December 26, 2005 03:46 PM | Link to this

Andy, I’ve never posted my opinion on Iraq or Sadaam Hussein, nor do I advocate that we live under a system of government and civil rights as they existed in Iraq. Good job changing the subject, you ignorant, child-porn-lover.

By blogger

December 26, 2005 04:05 PM | Link to this

Andy, nice try, but you’re still making no sense. I never called him anything, I just responded to your ignorant question of what he may have to gain. Unchecked, dictator-like powers is what he has to gain. Are you forgetting your own asinine statements posted above? I guess you’re an ignorant, child-porn-loving, senile, idiot.

Can anybody blame me? Isn’t it quite obvious that blogger is a depraved little gaybait? I sure hope he doesn’t happen across the path of some poor homosexual in real life, if he can’t control his gay stalking urges here, could you imagine what it would be like in the real world? The little pervert looking in your windows, jacking off with his gay magazines on your porch, it would be awful.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Now seeing the story, that was tasteless and out of line even for a joke.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

What? Ann Couter out of line? RW, they will kick you out of the coc with comments like that.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

Although, I wish I had a naked fan on my blog.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

RE,

It’s not easy to keep track of a conversation with you when you don’t address your posts. If your 6:19 is still in our conversation, that would be breaking the law, but it’s another of your straw men. We don’t have any such evidence that your scenario applies.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Ann doesn’t need my help to take whatever heat she generates.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this

Sen. George Allen (R.-Va.), who like John F’n Kerry is frequently mentioned as presidential candidate in 2008, ripped his Democratic colleague for making the suggestion (for a filibuster)—from Davos, Switzerland, nonetheless.

“Well, hearing this news today, Senator Kerry must be feeling lucky because he wants to make my day. If Senate Democrats follow his advice, then I say we must pull the trigger on the Constitutional option. Senators should vote on this nomination and not hide behind partisan political processes to deny this exemplary nominee the fairness of a vote. Senators can vote ‘yes’ or vote ‘no’, but it is our responsibility to vote,� said Allen.

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this

Another wine recommendation for anyone that cares. An alernative to Napa Valley, it’s Chilean. I’m partial to the Merlot and is good for the price. Marques de Casa de Concha

By getalife

January 27, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this

I got one of her new mouse pads

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 06:50 PM | Link to this

Jay not jay,

Great descriptions. On the Cabernet we get a hint of toasty French oak….the Merlot…with hints of tar.

By bgirl

January 27, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

Andy: I don’t think we should ‘impose’ anything of ours on anyone; including our religion. When people view something as good and beneficial to them, they go after it — no imposition necessary.

By Phil

January 27, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

Hey, Chickenhawks of the country arise! It’s been another great week for the “Bush Doctrine.” More revelations of lies and corruption in the White House. In the process of finding Democracy and Freedom, the Middle East gladly votes into office…the TERRORISTS. Maybe it’s time to call out…The National Guard! Oh. Almost forgot. That’s Bush’s army. Somewhere suffering in Iraq from “a few disgruntled” local folks. But “winning,” of course. Stand proud, Chickenhawks! Grab your beer and mount your pickup trucks. It don’t git no better’n this!!

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

RW, hmm tar, must be a Chilean thing but it isn’t bad.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 07:06 PM | Link to this

Jay not jay,

They should change the name of tar to something more pleasant like a hint of Patagonian toothfish.

By RE

January 27, 2006 07:08 PM | Link to this

RW, please refernece 6:12, where I put down an excerpt of Bush’s press conference, specifically the second section of his answer where he states that the program he put together did not conform to the law. I guess if a law is written way back in 1978 it is no longer valid

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 07:09 PM | Link to this

Phat Phil, you can vote for Hilliary soon to fix every thing. Until then, I guess you can continue to offer up your ignorance.

By Dr R

January 27, 2006 07:09 PM | Link to this

I’m having Chunky Chicken Noodle, hardly won ton, though there are chunks of something in there that could pass. Not sure what wine goes with that … perhaps something from Kentucky with a screw-off top (knew a girl once with a screw-off top, but I digress …)

Sorry to miss the real substance today, but golly, somebody’s got to work for a living. Can’t keep up with you 24/7 blogophiles.

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this

RW, hehe, maybe if blogger comes back. You sly sombitch!

By Objective Observer

January 27, 2006 07:18 PM | Link to this

Blogger: I offer a philosophical insight!

“The road to satisfaction is an express lane. Very few are dedicated to experience satisfaction in their lives.

The road to dissatisfaction is bumper to bumper.

If you’re wondering whether you’re satisfied…

If you have to ask the question, you already have the answer.

How long will it take before you give yourself the freedom to be happy?”

By: Gary Michael Durst

You are hopelessly stuck in the traffic which you have created for yourself. Give it up!!!!!!!!!!!

By Objective Observer

January 27, 2006 07:22 PM | Link to this

Blogger: And Andy is not going to move over to let you pass. F*!

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 07:23 PM | Link to this

RE,

Are you invested in ruining everyone’s weekend?

The bottom line is still that the President believes he has inherent power to do what he is doing in the Constitution. He also discusses how the FISA act comes into play in some cases. WE DON”T KNOW WHO IS RIGHT, YET!!!!!!

I can tell without a shadow of a doubt that the FISA law doesn’t trump the Constitution. What do you have against letting the system work?

I’ll have a piece on another of your twisted polls on my blog in about 10 minutes. I’m sure you can pour through it and find all sorts of meaningless tripe to somehow support your conclusions.

By Semper Fi

January 27, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

Alright Phil, are you really Baghdad Bob??

By Objective Observer

January 27, 2006 07:25 PM | Link to this

Hey, that word should not have been censored. Where am I, on Parade?

By RE

January 27, 2006 07:33 PM | Link to this

The FISA law and the 4th admendment seem to suggest what he did was illegal. The 4th is pretty clear and direct, the FISA is much more complicated, but also outlines how to proceed. These two provisions were clearly not followed. The only support for his action’s legality is a very liberal and broad reading of his responsibility as president, a reading of which the FISA law was enacted to curtail.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 07:43 PM | Link to this

RE,

It doesn’t matter how much you spew the same thing over and over, it is being looked at and we will find out. No law can be enacted to curtail a Constitutional authority, so FISA (in the immortal words of Sheriff Branford) is not germaine to the situation. To change the Constitution you have to amend it.

My poll story is up

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 07:45 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

What was that word, it certainly begins like it should be censored.

By Objective Observer

January 27, 2006 07:51 PM | Link to this

R.W.: If I type it again, they will obviously just censor it again. It is not what you are thinking. Though, when provoked, that is my word of choice. Shame on me.

By Bill

January 27, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this

That’s fer dang sure, Phil, fer dang sure. A couple more years with these Republiscum hayshakers in charge and we won’t have a country! Can you imagine anyone wanting to “import” what these lowlife freaks have turned America into?

By Jean

January 27, 2006 07:56 PM | Link to this

IMPRISON BUSH!

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 07:58 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

If you’ve read the blog today, you would see that Voice of Reason has given dozens of examples of getting around the censor.

By Objective Observer

January 27, 2006 07:58 PM | Link to this

Is that “Billy Bob”, “Billy Joe” or “Billy Ray”. Am I seeing some self-loathing here?

By Andy

January 27, 2006 08:02 PM | Link to this

Ann is on Hannity and Colmes tonite.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 08:03 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Is Beckel still in for Colmes?

By Objective Observer

January 27, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

I see what you mean R.W. Hard to call himself VOR accompanied by that language. O.K., I’ll apply his technique. The word was F@##*&(-&%t.

By Objective Observer

January 27, 2006 08:09 PM | Link to this

Never mind, I’m guilty!

By Andy

January 27, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this

Republican lawmakers say that ties between Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) and his brother’s lobbying firm, KSA Consulting, may warrant investigation by the House ethics committee…

According to a June 13 article in The Los Angeles Times, the fiscal 2005 defense appropriations bill included more than $20 million in funding for at least 10 companies for whom KSA lobbied. Carmen Scialabba, a longtime Murtha aide, works at KSA as well. KSA directly lobbied Murtha’s office on behalf of seven companies, and a Murtha aide told a defense contractor that it should retain KSA to represent it, according to the LA Times.

In early 2004, Murtha reportedly leaned on U.S. Navy officials to sign a contract to transfer the Hunters Point Shipyard to the city of San Francisco, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. A company called Lennar Inc. had right to the land, and Laurence Pelosi, nephew to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was an executive with the firm at that time.

Murtha also inserted earmarks in defense bills that steered millions of dollars in federal research funds toward companies owned by children of fellow Pennsylvania Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D).

By Andy

January 27, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this

RW: I have no idea, I haven’t been watching.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 08:19 PM | Link to this

Watch this

By Andy

January 27, 2006 08:20 PM | Link to this

Hey getalife: I was going to suggest you expand your blog to make room for the new members of the COC but all of the Republicans are getting set free, now we can just set a democrat down in an old Republican spot Hahahahahah. I’ll bet you guys already miss Delay, don’t you? He was so much fun when he was in your cage…

By getalife

January 27, 2006 08:25 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Are you drunk? You seem way too happy. If they are found not guilty, I will remove them from my blog. Dem. or Rep. it does not matter. Guilty is guilty.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 08:31 PM | Link to this

getalife: The first step towards guilt is to be investigated, which in Delay’s case, the Justice Department has declined to do. They’ve already told his lawyers.

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 08:33 PM | Link to this

Andy, your retort to sicko about “chimps are gay too” had me in tears I was lauging so hard. Antelopes ramming their heads together, dogs eating feces… Priceless….

By getalife

January 27, 2006 08:34 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Are you sure Jack did not snitch him out and will get new charges or is Tom doing the snitching to save his a-ss?

By Andy

January 27, 2006 08:40 PM | Link to this

getalife: I have no idea how it came about, George Will has it in his column, when Will says it you can take it to the bank.

Jay: I know, I almost fell out, “Things must get pretty wild at your house, don’t they?”

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 08:50 PM | Link to this

Andy, stop it! You’re killing me.

By Semper Fi

January 27, 2006 08:56 PM | Link to this

Did you folks know Hillary was on the BOD of WallyMart from 1986-1991? When asked if she advocated for better benefits, while on the board, she couldn’t recall. Surprise Suprise.

She has my vote for Prez..Ok, the democratic candidate.

By Andy

January 27, 2006 08:59 PM | Link to this

57% Americans support military action in Iran

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 09:20 PM | Link to this

And to hear John Kerry tell it, he is the one that talked DiFi into supporting a filibuster:

Contacts: Jodie Evans, (310) 621-5635 (in Venezula and US) Medea Benjamin, (58 416) 208-0134; (415) 235-6517

Cindy Sheehan to Dianne Feinstein: Fillibuster Alito or I’ll Challenge Your Senate Seat

Caracas, Venezuela - Gold star mother Cindy Sheehan has decided to run against California Senator Diane Feinstein if Feinstein does not filibuster the Supreme Court nomination of Judge Samuel Alito. While in Venezuela attending the World Social Forum, Sheehan learned that several Democratic Senators had announced their plans for a filibuster but that Senator Feinstein, who’s up for re-election in November, had stated she would vote against the nomination but not filibuster it. “I’m appalled that Diane Feinstein wouldn’t recognize how dangerous Alito’s nomination is to upholding the values of our constitution and restricting the usurpation of presidential powers, for which I’ve already paid the ultimate price,� Sheehan said.

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this

What is in the water in Mass.?

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 09:25 PM | Link to this

Or CA?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 09:28 PM | Link to this

Jay not jay,

They just showed Kerry on the Senate floor saying they had to keep Alito off the court because Ann Coulter liked him.

Even if you believe that, how insane is it to tell the world that that’s your reason?

By Andy

January 27, 2006 09:30 PM | Link to this

Transcript of Kerry’s “plug” for Ann’s Conservative credentials here.

By Midori

January 27, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this

or here

By Scott Byrnes

January 27, 2006 09:36 PM | Link to this

Bush’s NSA spy program is only listening to terrorists overseas. If Al Qeada happens to be calling Americans (such as the AJC editorial board), well…

By Andy

January 27, 2006 09:36 PM | Link to this

Look at Ann just itching to rip that pinkos throat out, I love that woman.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 09:50 PM | Link to this

Nice link Midori!

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 09:52 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Annie should just write a quick column saying she opposes Alito. Kerry would be on Kos in two minutes talking about what a great guy ‘ol Sam is.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 09:54 PM | Link to this

If Midori already has ml’s toon, why doesn’t he post it?

By getalife

January 27, 2006 09:57 PM | Link to this

Here is one

By getalife

January 27, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

snake

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this

Read 1776, it was a very good book.

By getalife

January 27, 2006 10:08 PM | Link to this

Let us pray

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 10:18 PM | Link to this

getalife, why don’t you show the one of W uncomfortably grimisng having to hold hands with the devil?

By washingtonstate

January 27, 2006 10:37 PM | Link to this

Hear the latest Republican joke?

“We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee,” Coulter said at Philander Smith College in Little Rock, Ark. ” Funny, isn’t it?

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 10:46 PM | Link to this

Hey w’state. Welcome to the ATL. Was up?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 10:49 PM | Link to this

Washington State,

I’ll take a wild guess that you didn’t read your way down to that post. We have pretty much agreed hours ago that it was a tasteless joke.

It’s also bad form on your part to quote the joke and leave off the qualifier. Especially when you post as if you are giving a direct quote.

Heard any good Ghandi jokes from Hillary lately?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 11:12 PM | Link to this

Jay not jay,

The swimmer is the latest Mass. politician to dive in over at Daily “screw ‘em” Kos, once again mixing MA $ CA.

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 11:14 PM | Link to this

Dang, MA, CA what’s the difference?

They all a bunch of freaks!

By washingtonstate

January 27, 2006 11:19 PM | Link to this

RW, There is no qualifier in the world that makes that joke palatable. BTW, if you think that joke is tasteless, you are on the wrong side in these blogs.

By finch

January 27, 2006 11:21 PM | Link to this

RW,

God, you are the sanest fascist I’ve ever met! Just kidding about the fascist part, and I hope you guessed that. Ann Coulter really should be rapped on the knuckles for that crack, though.. qualifier or no. Hey! I have an idea!! Chain her to Maureen Dowd! Put ‘em on the stage at Phillips Arena! Sell tickets!!! We’ll make a killing!

You game, dude??

And just for the record, I think Kerry’s nuts and Hillary’s death.

I was gonna post something scintillating with all sorts of nifty links, but I spent all day at a hospital with a sick relative, and I’m beat.

But I found one rib tickler! Democrats and Republicans can share the blame for this inspiration…

Their levees vs. our levees

Kinda makes you proud to be an American…

Now wheres a nice Chilean merlot when I need one?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 11:23 PM | Link to this

It’s fun reading the comments on this one. They seem just a little bit upset. Massachusetts isn’t all bad. Of course, I say that as one who was born there but had the good fortune to grow up in the South. My wife actually grew up there and she’s just to the right of Ann.

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 11:25 PM | Link to this

and that finch you’ll nevever change….

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 11:33 PM | Link to this

Err. RW, i must regress. finch one time fell to point where he was going to “pop” a bottle of asmith (sp, finch you can correct me)because he thought we killed a bunch of “innocents”.

finch, you may wanna stick with the merlot.

By finch

January 27, 2006 11:37 PM | Link to this

Shucks, Jaynj,

I’m feeling mellow. Sober, but mellow. Cut me a little slack and I promise I’ll cut you a little too.

RW,

I noticed another grammatical error in your blog, but since I are not only civilized, but also be never found to use uncorrect Enhlish, I’ll let it slide…

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 11:39 PM | Link to this

finch, are you a first grade teacher?

By finch

January 27, 2006 11:40 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah… absinthe.

It’s kind of like mescaline. You might be glad you did it once, just so you can say you did. But you never want to do it again.

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 11:41 PM | Link to this

finch, I’ll just get a 4,000,000 candle light flashlight, and show you the way to the moon, OK?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 11:42 PM | Link to this

washingtonstate (when did you change to that format) and finch,

I didn’t say any qualifier made the damn joke tasteful and I know at least one of you actually reads. She said it was a joke immediately, which doesn’t make it any better, but does mean it should be included in a quote as her words.

Jeez, Midori said it was tasteless, BigDaddy said it was tasteless, Andy said it was tasteless, and I said it was tasteless. We try to agree on one freaking thing around her and the next wave tries to start it all over.

Careful of that “hint of tar” in the Merlot, finch.

By finch

January 27, 2006 11:43 PM | Link to this

Jaynj,

Never taught school. However, I did once work for the State Department, in the IBB.

They’re kind of similar….

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 11:44 PM | Link to this

What was tasteless?

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 11:48 PM | Link to this

finch,

If you hint what direction the error is in I promise to fix it without pointing you out, I could probably be talked into removing my other snarky reference if you want.

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 11:53 PM | Link to this

RW, look out for the finch.

By RW-(the original)

January 27, 2006 11:55 PM | Link to this

Jay not jay,

If I can parlay this into having a free proofreader, it’s not a bad deal.

By finch

January 27, 2006 11:56 PM | Link to this

RW,

I did read through todays posts. Well, skimmed some of them. And I think we can all agree that Anne engaged her mouth before putting her brain in gear. I’m not going to make a federal case out of it; nobody else should, and you were right to chide washingtonstate for being so sanctimonious. Case closed, I hope!

Actually, I kinda like the snarky reference! I’m not that thin skinned…

Hint: It’s in your update. I’m a “who”, not a “that”, unless you intentionally meant to portray me as less than human. And it’s your blog. Unless you call me a mass murderer with ties to Al Qaeda AND the Cali drug cartel, I’m not gonna whine….

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 12:01 AM | Link to this

finch,

You are a “finch” or a “seneca”…bird;city;lake; etc…so that one is kind of a tossup, however since only a “who” could type the comment I’ll update.

“Who” isn’t another bird reference, is it?

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 12:04 AM | Link to this

Man RW, seems like finch should sing ya a song like the Who, “Who are You, who, who, who, who? finch as paranoid as you are, you shouldn’t be using words like Al Qaeda.

By finch

January 28, 2006 12:07 AM | Link to this

RW,

Damn you are funny!

Jnj,

When I talk to friends on the phone, I make a point of saying things like “.. and the software update is on its way to Zarqawi.”

Just to see if anyone’s listening.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 12:12 AM | Link to this

I guess since the only people that seem to be here are also over at the new one we should close this one out.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 12:13 AM | Link to this

You should read Anti’s post. Are you in the network?

By Liberal Texas Democrat

January 28, 2006 07:03 AM | Link to this

From bartcopand other sources.

13 MAR 2002 President George W Bush: “I don’t know where he is. You know I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. […] I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I am truly not that concerned about him.”

26 JAN 06 “When he say’s he’s going to hurt the American people again, or try to, he means it” “I take it seriously, and the people of NSA take it seriously.”

From the president who doesn’t play politics with “terror”.