Mike Luckovich

By Jay not jay

January 27, 2006 11:56 PM | Link to this

Oh, it’s the next democrat nominee!

By finch

January 28, 2006 12:04 AM | Link to this

Jaynj,

I could say that only Republicans offer tax cuts…

Oh, I’ll say it anyway!

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 12:09 AM | Link to this

finch,

Only Democrats target their tax cuts so specifically that you would have to kill yourself to qualify.

It’s definitely the next Democratic Party standard bearer.

By finch

January 28, 2006 12:20 AM | Link to this

And on a more serious note…

The Democrats have failed in attempts to derail Alito; the campaign against “domestic spying” (or is it terrorist surveillance?) is backfiring….

But folks are getting worked up about this Jack Abramoff guy and his alleged links to this President Bush guy says the Washington Post:

The survey found that three in four — 76 percent — of Americans said Bush should release lists of all meetings between aides and Abramoff; 18 percent disagreed. Two in three Republicans joined with eight in 10 Democrats and political independents in favoring disclosure, according to the poll.

But 55% think the “scandal” is widespread. getalife’s crusade against the coc is bipartisan. Will this one be too?

“Get your programs, folks! Get your programs here!! Can’t tell the players without a program!”

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 12:20 AM | Link to this

finch, is that you on the far right marveling at the good news!

By finch

January 28, 2006 12:36 AM | Link to this

Jaynj,

Let’s just say that I thought Alito was a lost cause for the Dems, because while his track record may be a tad to my right, his creds as a legal scholara can’t be denied.

Also, after Alito is sworn in, if he does vote to overturn Roe, the Dems will do their damdest to make it political in ‘06 or ‘08. Personally I support restrictions on abortions (no “partial birth” jobs, thank you!) but think an outright ban is both unconstitutional and unenforceable. Let the Court, and the people hammer it out.

As far as domestic spying is concerned, I agree with what RW said yesterday (I want to get this right, RW!) We really don’t know if the Bush administration broke the law or not. All the pundits taking one side or the other are just blowing f*arts. Let’s have some hearings, and let the courts decide.

As for Abramoff, Bush is an idiot for withholding photos, meeting agendas and attendees, etc. He should have been like President Whatsface in “Clear And Present Danger” When the Prez’s buddy, offed by drug dealers was found to be a major player, Jack Ryan told the Prez, do NOT deny the friendship. Tell everyone he was a close friend, but you had no IDEA…

Do that, and a scandal link to the White House self-deflates. Stonewalling when you really have nothing to hide is the worst possible tactic. It screams guilty.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 12:38 AM | Link to this

finch,

I bet 76% of Americans don’t realize that once something heads into the Justice Department as a criminal investigation that a sudden public release of meetings and information would be considered obstruction of justice.

I know liberals think obstruction of justice and perjury are code names for oral sex when they do them and first degree felonies when Republicans are involved, so a Republican President better be careful interfering with your little bipartisan crusade.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 12:44 AM | Link to this

Lost cause? first of all, why was Alito a “cause” for the dems? You are right, they finally caught on, after how long?? It made you look silly.

finch, i didn’t even read the roe’ rant. IMO, it will not be over turned. And that’s ok by me.

By finch

January 28, 2006 12:48 AM | Link to this

RW,

I would expect that both the White House and and any Congressional probers would seek a Justice Department opinion before any release of info that might damage an investigation. Look for some jousting accompanied by thrusts and parries

I’m not expecting the Bush administration to suddenly cave, but I think it could be more accomodating. This “no you can’t see it ever!” is just bad PR guaranteed to open self-inflicted wounds, especially since just a few weeks ago, Scotty McClellan was promising reporters he would make public information about White House staff meetings involving Abramoff.

Then he (the Bush administration) changed his/its mind. From a nonpartisan PR standpoint, that’s just plain stupid.

BTW, I see you made a tiny tiny change in your blog. But you’re still revealing my secret identity! How will I ever resist the onslaught of fans, groupies, bill collectors….

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 12:50 AM | Link to this

finch, where are you from?

By finch

January 28, 2006 12:56 AM | Link to this

Jaynj,

Born in DC, grew up in upstate NY, Philly suburbs, Chicago suburbs, worked and lived in Chicago proper, NYC, DC, Sonoma, CA… Wife’s born and raised in Atlanta..

And I’m now spinning my wheels in SC’s low country, where I think RW warned me to stay away from warm melons, or something like that. Thinking about relocating to Atlanta. Maybe.

Probably more than you wanted to know???

Your turn if you want. No offense here if you don’t.

By washingtonstate

January 28, 2006 12:56 AM | Link to this

Finch, Alito’s big contribution to the American scene won’t be about Roe vs Wade, but about the imperial presidency. Once he is sitting on the court, there will be no limit to presidential power. The only problem is that one day the president will be a Democrat and then the howls will come from the other side. The problem with removing checks and balances is that they protect all sides.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 12:58 AM | Link to this

Jay not jay,

From your comment and finch’s above we probably feel pretty much the same on the abortion issue. That’s one of the reasons I would like nothing better than Roe being overturned. There is wide ranging support for what the Dems profess to want i.e. safe, legal, and rare. So legislatively it’s a no brainer. The kooks on both fringes could be weeded out if this was a debate that could take place with voter input. Roe invents a blanket right into the Constitution and opens the document up as a social engineering tool. Abortion would not be illegal if Roe were overturned, it would just give the rights back to the people.

Sorry for the rant, but I don’t want some Supreme authority usurping the rights of the people. Think about what the Democrats are railing about with respect to Alito and Roe. They are scared that we might have our rights to govern ourselves back. Now which is scarier?

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 12:59 AM | Link to this

Oh no, the mail man…. finch, are you the mailman on Seinfeld?

By WashingtonState

January 28, 2006 01:04 AM | Link to this

Hmmm, another interesting tidbit. Seems that “K” Street was heavily involved in the Medicare drug fiasco. Not too surprising. Welfare for the pharmaceutical industry, a screw job for seniors and the rest of the country who will pay for the boondogle. The government pretty much tells doctors and hospitals how much they will get paid under Medicare, but Pharmaceutical companies get what they want without negotiation. Free enterprise??

By finch

January 28, 2006 01:08 AM | Link to this

washingtonstate,

From a seriously constitutional point of view you are right. But IMO if you ask the average American right now about “the threat (or promise) of an imperial presidency”, you’ll get a blank stare. It’s sad.

But abortion? Almost everybody has a strong opinion about abortion. Every one of them thinks his/her opinion is fair, logical, humanitarian and positively dripping with justice and equality, and also that everyone who disagrees with them is certifiably crazy. It’s insanely polarizing. It makes or breaks campaigns.

I’d just as soon that the abortion issue not be this kind of huge bellwether, but it is. Call it instant gratification? Meanwhile, it’ll be years before the impact of any changes in a President’s power hits on a gut level in the US. IMHO, of course.

By WashingtonState

January 28, 2006 01:09 AM | Link to this

RW, I agree with you on Roe vs Wade. It was a huge mistake to have that issue decided in the courts. It will fester there forever if it isn’t changed.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 01:10 AM | Link to this

I’m with you RW, they just need to use some common sense about it. These professed “professors” are laughable.

By finch

January 28, 2006 01:15 AM | Link to this

RW,

I hate it when I agree with you. People forget that before Roe, abortions were already legal in some states, including New York, where I lived at the time. It’s really a state’s rights issue, like doctor assisted suicide and medical marijuana should be.

If enough people in a given state think that abortions should be “safe, legal and rare”, then it should be. I’m leery of states banning abortions outright. For starters, it’s unenforceable. But let the voters and the courts decide.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 01:18 AM | Link to this

finch,

The warm melon warning has nothing to do the low country, eating warm melons will make you wish you hadn’t anywhere. The difference around where you are is you often find them growing in an unfenced field just a few feet off the road and sometimes think, “man I’d really like some fresh melon about now.”

Don’t trust the warm “local melon”!

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 01:22 AM | Link to this

finch,

Since ml won’t let us use strike through code I would fix your last sentence this way:

But let the voters and the legislators decide.

Aren’t the courts what got us where we are now?

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 01:30 AM | Link to this

finch,

I hope you know that “RSS” collectors everywhere are beginning to think I’ve lost my mind, fortunately they are mostly just software, but I have fixed your identity crisis.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 01:46 AM | Link to this

Does anyone have a shovel?

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 01:55 AM | Link to this

Jay not jay,

I have a few, is that a trick question or are you being….look finch….affected by Chilean tar?

(Which sounds like hash, BTW, no wonder you like that Merlot)

By Jean

January 28, 2006 02:25 AM | Link to this

RW - such a pathetic, mindless little castrated would-be man you are. Like so many on this site - Andy, Buff, all the rest of the ill-conceived, uneducated intellectual perverts and freeloaders of our society. Never seen anything. Never been anywhere. Never done anything. “The Worst Generation” ever. It is no wonder the U.S. is fading so quickly in every respect, with minds & lives such as yours. I’d pity you little people - but you’re too repulsive.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 02:31 AM | Link to this

RW, it’s whine, and cheese, don’t ya know! Of the Chilean kind… The social scientist will put on their bowties, and march to save the world..

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 02:33 AM | Link to this

Jean, please give us “one” thing you have done to make the world a better place?

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 02:47 AM | Link to this

Jean,

If you would like to regale us with your magnificence, I’ll play along. Is anyone with a less than “Jean approved” education apervert? and why? If so what is a “Jean approved” education?

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 02:52 AM | Link to this

better look out RW, I don’t think the little punk could take it. Jean, please enlighthen us, we are waiting…

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 03:03 AM | Link to this

there is a horrible song about pulling the wings off a butterfly. I bet Jean would pull the wings off a butterfly. Sad MF…..

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 03:10 AM | Link to this

Jay not jay,

It’s no surprise that they change their name and use drive-by insults every night. It gives these lightweights a feeling of power. Sometimes they are less annoying than the professorial types we deal with daily, though. These mental midgets at night know that can’t sustain a debate so they hit and run.

The daytime crowd tries to see if they can outword you in a circular argument. As sad as it is for me to admit, it’s how I’ve discovered that Objective Observer was right about the guy that doesn’t want to be named. At least he can debate in a sensible give and take when things are serious and not take himself too seriously when they aren’t.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 03:50 AM | Link to this

RW, that’s why I do what I do. I’m tired of these little freaks trying to get the upper hand. Not gonna happen… fire against fire. I’ll turn the table on them.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 03:59 AM | Link to this

Jay not jay,

Just be sure to know some of these freaks are only out to provoke and are often the same freaks. If one of them decides you are going to “confront all enemies” they wil morph into many, many freaks.

You’re right about how insane they are!

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 04:05 AM | Link to this

You’re right RW, they don’t like to be called PINKOS!

Those rip off lawyers sure are sensitive?!

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 04:06 AM | Link to this

Oh no, they probably saw all 13 Friday 13’s.

By AntiRadical

January 28, 2006 04:07 AM | Link to this

Great toon, ML. The thing that strikes me most succinctly is how many world powers are backsliding into socialism/fundamentalism during the tenure of the current administration. Could it be that the Bushian “Iron-Fist” approach to global diplomacy may be flawed?

By AntiRadical

January 28, 2006 04:17 AM | Link to this

The U.S. Army in Iraq has at least twice seized and jailed the wives of suspected insurgents in hopes of “leveraging” their husbands into surrender, U.S. military documents show.- AP, 1/28/06.

This toon is right on key: Uncle Sam sounds a lot like the terrorists do, too!!!

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 04:18 AM | Link to this

Oh, great Anti, we’re moving in the way of you’re great movement”

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 04:20 AM | Link to this

Anti, you look more like the facsist you speak of whore.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 04:23 AM | Link to this

Freaks, bring it!!!

By AntiRadical

January 28, 2006 04:25 AM | Link to this

Because of unforeseen security costs, haphazard planning and shifting priorities, the American-financed reconstruction program in Iraq will not complete scores of projects that were promised to help rebuild the country, a federal oversight agency reported yesterday.-NYT, 1/27/06

Seems like the current administration has as much integrity regarding “promises” it makes as it does campaign funding it collects.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 04:25 AM | Link to this

Anti, we’re ready to pull back. We were ready to pull back until we had to go to war b***!

By AntiRadical

January 28, 2006 04:33 AM | Link to this

The report was released only days after a separate audit of American financial practices in Iraq uncovered irregularities including millions of reconstruction dollars stuffed casually into footlockers and filing cabinetsNYT, 1/27/06

Oh, yeh. This admistration has always had a REAL handle on things over there. President Bush’s great Iraqi Welfare Program appears to be even more flawed than LBJ’s “Great Society”.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 04:34 AM | Link to this

Anti, or RW, did either of you go to North Druid High School?

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 04:36 AM | Link to this

Anti, you love this admin., blame one man for everything, you sickos.

By AntiRadical

January 28, 2006 05:20 AM | Link to this

The administration plans to ask in its 2007 budget next month for $250 million so the Department of Energy can develop new ways to reprocess nuclear fuel to make it harder to use its plutonium byproduct in nuclear weapons, the source said. President Jimmy Carter banned reprocessing because of concerns it could spread nuclear weapons. President Ronald Reagan lifted the ban and President Bill Clinton reinstated it.

Hooray! The President sure got this one right. Abandonment of breeder reactor technology was the biggest mistake this country ever made.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 06:53 AM | Link to this

Did anybody else see where the AJC has started a campaign to crack down on adultery? It looks like they busted some guy and they have his picture all over the front page of the litter box liner. Apparently the pinkos have figured out that extramarital sex is harmful to our society and they are beginning their own little enforcement measure to shame people into doing right. Will they soon turn their attention to homosexuality?

Kudos AJC! It takes courage to stand up against immorality!

By Subversive

January 28, 2006 07:17 AM | Link to this

Let the Government pay your postage fees!

When mailing a letter, put your own address in the “To” position and the address you wish the mail delivered to in the “From” position. DO NOT apply a stamp, place the letter in a mailbox, and when it is delivered to you with “postage due”, refuse delivery and the letter will be “returned” to…exactly where you wanted it to go in the first place.

Note: This information is presented for informational purposes only and is solely intended to elicit debate. Applying this method might be illegal and could cost the United States valuble monetary resources that it could otherwise use to further it’s current policies.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 07:20 AM | Link to this

So now the pinkos are going to use their secular “faith” and “values” section to imply that Bush lied about WMD in Iraq. Never mind that he was using evidence provided by Valerie Plame, privacy hog, but that also the Senate voted 98- to Cynthia McKinney in agreement.

Liberals consider Christianity to be fair game, 24/7, they can mock, impugn and blaspheme at will. Heaven help you should you point out that Muslims are murderers or even point out that crotch worship is a liberal perversion, they will burn you at the stake for your “insensitive” remarks.

One of the reasons I think Ann should apologize for her poison comment is because we are not liberals. We are grown ups, adults. Let the liberals write books about killing Bush, let the pinkos throw pies at Conservative speakers, we should act our age.

I can also understand Ann’s motivation. It doesn’t make it right. It would be like if we would have answered NBC’s “Book of Daniel” by producing a show about a couple of queers raising some children where one kid gets beat up at school everyday and the other one hangs himself in shame. We just don’t do these things.

By Mike Parker

January 28, 2006 07:32 AM | Link to this

So what lies will Bush tell us in his State of the Union address?

That democracry is working in the Middle East?

That we need more tax cuts?

That domestic spying is good for all of us?

Give me a break from this liar and thief.

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 07:46 AM | Link to this

Mike P.: Nobody has to give you the break, just take it!

By Subversive

January 28, 2006 07:50 AM | Link to this

DO IT YOURSELF ABORTION- RU486/Saline Injection Saline injection has been largely replaced by D& E proceedure due to higher maternal risk factors. Requires few tools other than a large syringe and hypo needle(available as turkey basters and in vet supplies). In saline abortions, done after the 16th week, a large needle is inserted through the woman’s abdominal wall and into the baby’s amniotic sac. A concentrated salt solution (dissolve salt in sterile distilled water until no more will dissolve) is injected into the amniotic fluid resulting in acute hypernatremia or acute salt poisoning. The baby breathes in and swallows the solution and is usually dead within a couple hours. Dehydration, hemorrhaging of the brain, organ failure, and burned skin also contribute to the fetus’ demise. The mother generally goes into labor the next day and delivers a dead baby.

RU-486 (Day after pill) is easily purchased through the internet from hundreds of overseas pharmacies. If you’re a woman in early stage unwanted pregnancy, it is your best option by far. Saline Injection will probably become the method that young women, without financial resouces or who would otherwise be forced to inform their parents, will employ as legal abortion proceedures become more and more difficult to acquire.

Note: This information is presented for informational purposes only and is solely intended to elicit debate.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 07:58 AM | Link to this

No debate here, subversive, you’re doing fine, keep it up!

By John W. Booth

January 28, 2006 07:59 AM | Link to this

Its good to have options.

By John W. Booth

January 28, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

S. POPClock Projection According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, the resident population of the United States, projected to 01/28/06 at 12:59 GMT (EST+5) is

297,992,057

COMPONENT SETTINGS One birth every……………………………. 8 seconds One death every……………………………. 12 seconds One international migrant (net) every………… 28 seconds Net gain of one person every………………… 13 seconds

By Subversive

January 28, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this

No problem, Andy. Subversion is great fun when you have a leader that supports it so well.

By John W. Booth

January 28, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

Oil tops $67 amid geopolitical woes Saudi oil minister, OPEC chief suggest prices may remain high By Associated Press | January 28, 2006

Crude oil futures climbed back above $67 a barrel yesterday on nagging supply fears linked to Iran’s nuclear standoff with the international community and militant attacks in Nigeria, Africa’s largest oil exporter.

By John W. Booth

January 28, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

Best Gas Mileage

Honda Insight 1 3 5-speed manual 60 66 $405 Toyota Prius 1.5 4 Variable automatic 60 51 $466 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3 4 Variable automatic 48 47 $541 Volkswagen Diesel New Beetle/Golf/Jetta 1.9 4 5-speed manual 38 46 $598 Honda Civic 1.7 4 5-speed manual 36 44 $635 Toyota Echo 1.5 4 5-speed manual 35 43 $651 Toyota Scion XA 1.5 4 4-speed automatic 32 38 $727 Toyota Corolla 1.8 4 5-speed manual 32 40 $705 Toyota Scion XB 1.5 4 5-speed manual 31 35 $773 Toyota Celica 1.8 4 4-speed automatic 29

By Andy

January 28, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

Hey, subversive: You have any gender change suggestions you’d like to share with us? Maybe a do it at home procedure?

By AD

January 28, 2006 08:15 AM | Link to this

Mike P. that is exactly what he will tell us. The intelligent listeners will remember that if GW’s mouth is moving he’s lying. The dumb ones will buy it and therein lies the problem. Administrations like this one depend on mass ignorance to accomplish their agenda.

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this

In the last five years:

Hamas, bent on the destruction of Israel and extremely hostile to the US, has risen to power in the Palestinian elections.

Iran is more hostile, more dangerous, actively subverting the US in Iraq, and unbending in its rapid ascent in the nuclear community.

Hezbollah is a rising force in Lebenon’s government.

Democracy is failing in Russia.

North Korea is more dangerous now than five years ago and NOTHING is being done about it.

Pakistan is harboring Al Qaeda and Taliban leaders and the US thinks Musharref is a ‘friend.’

Over 2,000 American soldiers dead, Over 10,000 seriously wounded, Over 30,000 innocent Iraqi’s dead, and $2 Trillion further in debt.

Foreign Policy under the Bush administration is nothing short of a complete disaster.

By AD

January 28, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

Has anyone seen the contents of the new Canadien leaders 1st press conference? The usual suspects here were touting this “conservative’s” win in Canada and using it to illustrate how this election somehow indicated a victory for the Bushies.

This guys has already thrown down the gauntlet to the U.S. over arctic waters and declared that Canada will protect its sovereignty against the U.S. It seems that GW just doesn’t give anyone a warm and fuzzy feeling.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

In 1944, with American armies marching towards Berlin, Hitler made on last desperate gamble, the Battle of the Bulge, we had 81,000 casualties and 19,000 deaths in little over a month, 4 months later we were accepting Germany’s surrender. Thank God, as we are also lucky to have today, that the pinkos weren’t in charge then, for we would have surrendered instead of telling the Germans “nuts.”

By Subversive

January 28, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

Good one, Andy. Fortunately, there is little demand for THAT proceedure. There is SO MUCH demand for discreet abortion that it will always be peformed either legally here, abroad, or illegally in the backrooms that predated Roe v Wade. Take your pick, everyone, because like it or not those are the only choices you have.

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this

You guys need to keep me up to speed on things…I didn’t realize we were at war with the Palestinians, Iran, Lebanon, North Korea, and Russia. We MUST NOT SURRENDER TO ANY of these enemies!

By AD

January 28, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

Just the fact that abortion is the defining issue of our times and the one that raises everyones hackles is an indictment of our society as a whole. Abortion should be a NON-ISSUE! How many ways are there to avoid pregnency if one so desires. This issue has stood in the way for too long. It is totally ridiculous that abortion is the start all and end all of every political process in America. It controls political candidates,it controls judicial appointments…

Abortion should be off the radar screen when compared to the bigger issues that affect every single person in this country. Why is the question always where does judge so and so stand on abortion when the question should be, where does so and so stand on the more important aspects of the U.S. Constitution

By Andy

January 28, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this

Subversive: Not according to Queen Pinko, Cynthia Tucker. I quote “urging women to insist their sexual partners use condoms and inquire about any partner’s sexual history.” Once we acknowledge that condom use can be effective at saving your selfish little life, then why wouldn’t it be used to prevent pregnancy and save unborn children from a convenience murder?

hypocrisy- n 1: an expression of agreement that is not supported by real conviction [syn: lip service] 2: insincerity by virtue of pretending to have qualities or beliefs that you do not really have

la·zy- adj. la·zi·er, la·zi·est Resistant to work or exertion; disposed to idleness.

stu·pid- adj. stu·pid·er, stu·pid·est- Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.

By finch

January 28, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this

It’s another day of blow your neighbor to bits as US and Iraqi forces fruitlessly try to tamp down Iraq’s growing civil war.

Shia continue to blw up Sunni. Some of these bombs are believed to be the work of Al Qaeda Iraq, led by Abu Musab Zarqawi, whose small band of misfits continue to target Iraqi civilians and not US forces, despite a pleading letter from Osama’s perennial number 2, Ayman Zawahiri to please stop killing fellow Muslims! Zawahiri also asks for donations from Zarqawi, a sign Osama’s checking account is getting low.

Meanwhile the Sunnis, disenfranchised after Saddams fall, are taking time off from terror bombings against Shia to eliminate Zarqawi and is band of (mostly foreign) terrorists.

It’s increasingly apparent that the Sunnis and Shia in Iraq are sinking towards civil war. The elections this month, virtually guaranteeing a government lacking in Sunni representation almost guarantees it, despite frantic efforts by the US to forge a coalition

The good news is that if civil war breaks out, Iraq

By Subversive

January 28, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

Andy, you probably never used many condoms so you are probably unaware of the fact that they break and leak. Condom use has been approximated as 80% effective in preventing pregnancy (the other 20% are the ones who want abortions). What’s the difference between denying life through birth control and denying it through abortion, anyway. God is still absent that soul regardless of whatever mechanism is used,isn’t he?

By Andy

January 28, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

Subversive: So what is Cynthia talking about? Is she trying to get people to contract deadly diseases? Is that some pinko game, make people believe they are safe and then watch their horror when they die? Is that how you guys get off?

By finch

January 28, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

AS I was saying, the GOOD news is that Iraqis will be so busy killing eachother, murdering US troops will be an afterthought.

The bad news is that US forces will be stuck in the middle, about as wanted as UN peacekeepers would be, and just about as vulnerable.

No, wait!! The Iraq civil war has already started!

Bring the US troops home from Iraq. Al Qaeda’s an irrelevancy there that the Iraqis are taking care of. Iraq had no WMDs, was not a threat to the US, and had no real links to Osama. Well, until after the US invasion.

Save time, money and lives! Focus on the REAL terror threats. Al Qaeda in Pakistan. Saudi Arabia. Iran.

By Eric

January 28, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

The democratic election of Hamas and Bush’s resononse to it gives us just one more example of his unmitigated hypocrisy and his absolute stupidity. If you insist on free elections, you must honor the results. George W Einstein wants it both ways. He wants the elections, but only if the results suit his purposes. He’s demonstrated the same attitude at home. He insists that we are a nation of laws. But those laws apply to him only when he deems it to be so. Without question, this alledged leader is the sorriest excuse for a president this country has ever seen. It’s sickening to think that this dimwitted loser is in the same company with such true American heros as Washington, Lincoln and FDR, among others. While we were at war in southeast Asia, this pansy assed cheerleader was drinking and snorting and smoking and having a good old time. And now he suddenly has what it takes to lead a great nation into war? What a sad, sad commentary. Unfortunately the laziness and lack of interest of the vast majority of Americans has made this bad joke a reality and it’s having a disaterous affect on the entire world. I just hope we can survive three more years of this nincompoop!

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

dittohead - n 1: a person does not possess the capacity for independent thought 2: this person will create a loyal identity with those that project superiority 3: persons generally possessing low IQ that respond to inconvenient facts with hostility and obfuscation 3: Most have withdrawn testicles, a single eyebrow, knuckles frequently drag the ground when they slouch back to their caves.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

Civil War, ahhhh, yes!

Insurgents and Al Qaeda clash in Iraq

SAMARRA, Iraq (Reuters) - Hundreds of Iraqis staged a demonstration in the restive city of Samarra on Tuesday in a show of defiance against al Qaeda militants they blamed for killing dozens of police recruits last week.

Why even lie and dissemble if that is all that you have got? Is your stake in our defeat that high? Are you the enemy?

By Dubya

January 28, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

Me and the vice prez Dick Cheney are up on Dumbf..k Mountain writin’ us a speech. We’ll be comin’ to town to say it to yall next Tuesday. Yall be sure and watch us on the TV. We gonna put some real important stuff in there that’s gonna make my pole numbers go up and I want all my good christian supporters to be a watchin. If you aint for me then you aint a good American. See yall on Tuesday.

By Subversive

January 28, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Andy: Don’t ask me to defend Cynthia Tucker. Haven’t read a word she’s written in years. Abstinence is the only 100% protection from both pregnancy and disease. Condoms while no where near totally safe, do provide significant protection. Most prophylactic packages carry disclaimers letting the public know that they are still highly fallible. Abortion is usually what happens when birth control methods fail. It is rare that no precautions were taken by someone who would, otherwise, be motivated enough to seek abortion when they become pregnant. As you said, “Why would a woman want to have an abortion when they can use simple birth control?”

By AD

January 28, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this

Kudos Eric. I have said all along that it is only a matter of time until Bush goes after a country because he doesn’t agree with who it elected. Since GWB has been president all of Latin America has leaned to the left THROUGH the electoral process. In years past elections could be “manipulated” to achieve the result that we wanted. With new mechanisms in place all over the world to insure accurate results…well. Ortega is even on the comeback trail in Nicaragua. But I guess the policies of the Bush administration have nothing to do with nations tilting away from Washington…huh Andy? GWB has created more problems for this country than any leader in our history.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

Subversive: All else is failing 1,400,000 times a year?

By Subversive

January 28, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

Usually, Presidents are good at either foreign policy issues or domestic issues but not both at the same time. A rare exception was Ronald Reagan who was good at both; an even rarer exception is GWB who is good at neither.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

Let’s give a hearty cheer for “Civil War!”

Local Insurgents Tell of Clashes With Al Qaeda’s Forces in Iraq (2)

“The tribes are fed up with Al Qaeda and they will not tolerate any more,” said a senior Iraqi intelligence official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The intelligence official confirmed reports that a Sunni tribe in Samarra had tried and executed Qaeda members for their role in assassinating a local sheik.

“It was a beautiful mistake,” the intelligence official said of the sheik’s assassination by Al Qaeda. “Now the tribes will kill Al Qaeda. Now they have the courage.”

By mike

January 28, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

AD:

Please give us a list of the problems Bush has “created”. This should be funny.

By mike

January 28, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

It better be a LOOOONGGG list too if its gonna beat Jimmy Carter’s.

By Jesus

January 28, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

Off the topic, and putting aside the issue of “Separation of Church & State”, does anyone see this as intended extortion?

[Garrett, the ACLU attorney, said the bill will likely be thrown out in court.

Garrett pointed out that Barrow County had to reimburse the ACLU $150,000 for its legal fees and the case never even got to trial.

“It’s really important to take time to consider how costly it would be,” Garrett said. “It could be a big waste of taxpayers’ money.”]( http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/0128metcommand.html)

If it’s worthy of your attention, it should be at your own expense. Taxpayers are screwed either way.

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

Let’s see, in the last five years:

-An unstable terrorist training ground has been created in Iraq at the cost of over 2,000 American soldiers - with no end in sight.

-Iran is more dangerous

-North Korea is more dangerous

-The continent of South America is lurching toward socialism and is more hostile to the US

-Cuba is no different

-Democracy in Russia is failing

-Budget surpluses have been been turned into deficits and $2 trillion added to the US debt

-The US Government is dramatically bigger and more mismanaged

-The response to hurricane Katrina was pathetic (yes, at all levels of government)

-The Department of Homeland Security is a bureacratic disaster

-Civil Liberties have been further eroded

-Corruption is rampant in our Capital

-Social Security plan was a joke

-The US is less respected all over the world

-Our military is overstretched

There is more, but this is a start…

By AD

January 28, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

Study a little Mike. The leftward lean in Latin America reflects the ill will that Washington has created. With China in the game, the rest of the world does not have to kowtow to Washington anymore. Nations that once depended on us to buy their oil now have China. How long before they form trade alliances with the Chinese and among themselves that leaves us out in the cold. Arrogant neo-cons like Bush think that the days of hemispheric domination are still alive and well. Furthermore, in the near future the Chinese will be able to insure the security of it’s partners with its military. Gunboat diplomacy will only further isolate us. The handwriting is on the wall nimrod. Unfortunately, many just do not have the intelligence to read it.

By AD

January 28, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Very good Lord Help Us. The only problem is that no matter how you put it the blind mice like Mike and Andy will follow GWB right off the cliff. They are like the Scarecrow in the Wizard of OZ. If they only had a brain.

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Oh well, if you’re interested, cut & paste. Where is R.W. when I need him?

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this

I’d like to see a list of the problems that have been resolved by the Bush Administration.

After 5 years with a Republican dominated Congress I am sure this list must be HUGE!

By getalife

January 28, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

This democracy thing is backfiring on Dubya. Will he stay the course with his ideotic doctrine? Of course he will. Thanks to finch for helping me with my fight.

By AD

January 28, 2006 10:27 AM | Link to this

And furthermore, even the new guy in Canada is rattling his sword at Washington over arctic waterways. GWB has been the greatest threat to the long term security of the United States in our entire history.

By AD

January 28, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

Lord Help Us, obviously the Scarecrows are doing extensive google searches to come back with some GWB apologist retort. Alas…if they only had a brain they would not have to search google.

By G Dumbya Bush

January 28, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

We’re changing that whole democracy in the mid-east is good sound bite, we’re going back to the Sadaam is evil routine again. We plan on bringing back the WMD thingy for Iraq.

And the good things? You don’t see any bird flu do you? My administration won the war on bird flu you bird brains.

By AD

January 28, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

getalife and finch…you guys are more than a match for the “scarecrows” on this blog. You force them to use alot of their time searching for replies to what is obviously the truth about the Bush administration. Keep it up. The bullies (like Bush) hate meaningful discourse. They obviously are becomming increasingly frustrated at the opposition to their hero that they are now encountering on this blog. You guys really make them appear stupid and all the google searches in the world can’t help them. Bottom line. Bush is becomming indefensible to even his apologists. Keep up the good work. You too Lord Help Us.

By Ricky

January 28, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this

Well the name callers are out in full force this morning

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this

They’ll come back with some drivel about lower taxes (they won’t mention the record deficits and the long term affect of the dramatic increase in debt).

The most pathetic line they have used lately to justify the erosion of civil liberties and eavesdropping is the one about ‘we havn’t been attacked in this country in over 4 years.’ They always forget to thank Clinton for keeping us safe from domestic attacks between ‘93 and 9/11/01.

Of course now that Bush has restored ‘honor and integrity’ to the White House, we are all so much better off.

By AD

January 28, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

And we all know that the attempted “bird flu” scare was only intended to pay back the pharmacuetical boys for their support with the money they would make developing and peddling the “vaccine”. Bush is so transparent. He creates fear and then tries to capitalize on it.

By Ricky

January 28, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this

Wow, this blog really has become sad over the past couple of months. You used to be able to have good debate, but now it is dominated by people calling each other stupid or ingnorant, etc. It really reflects the sad state of our political culture today

By G Dumbya Bush

January 28, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

Hey, and don’t forget, you never hear anyone say “Happy Holidays” anymore, thank you very much.

By Semper Fi

January 28, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

Don’t you pinko’s realize that whatever war we fight, is the wrong war, whatever country we fight in, is the wrong country, what ever wins we have are really defeats, whatever truths we tell are really lies, and so on and so on.

Maybe it’s because you’ve been so wrong so often. Misery does love company. Cheer up. Drop the hate. The sky is not falling, at least in the real world.

By Well Hung

January 28, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

GWB takes Cheney up the keister. That’s where the drivel that keeps running out of his mouth every day comes from.

By AD

January 28, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

Semper Fi..welcome to the “scarecrow” club. Another moron that thinks we can “war” our way out of any mess that GW creates.

By Ricky

January 28, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

AD, you sure have a knack for calling names. Were you picked on a lot as a kid?

By Andy

January 28, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

It would be fantastic if you people could come up with a list of problems Bush has actually created not just something you heard from another pinko, much like “no end in sight” and “the military is overstretched.” This may be exciting to you but to us it is all so, how can I put this, boring? Tired? Worn out slogan like?

Enjoy bantering back and forth lies and crackpot theories amongst yourselves. Maybe, just maybe, you can get lucky and create a whole nother kook conspiracy, right here in this room, all on your own. Think about “Global Warming On Mars!” you know, something like that.

By John W. Booth

January 28, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

GAZA CITY (CNN) — A leader of the militant group Hamas promised reforms and indicated the possibility of a Palestinian army in the wake of the historic elections that swept his party into power this week.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

This blog does not come close to name calling on other blogs. If you can’t take the heat, stonewall the issue or better yet smear the name caller.

Bottom line, most people are fed up with our government and like to vent here. There is nothing wrong with that.

By Ricky

January 28, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

John W. Booth, yeah I am sure Hamas is going to do its best to become a legitimate political party. I mean even Jimmy Carter said so

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Good one Andy, that one really put us in our place.

Anyone keeping you from compiling the HUGE list of problems that have been resolved by this administration after 5 years with a Republican dominated Congress?

By Andy

January 28, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

Listen to these pinkos in here. They’ve been going on all morning about this crackpot idea and this goofy suggestion with out one shred of proof given. Nothing. If it rattles around inside of their polluted little mind and sounds good on the end of their little pinko tongue, then it must be true! Bush eats little children! Yeah, Cheney catches and feeds them to him! It’s a neocon oil agenda! Less people using oil in the future! More for Halliburton!

By Ricky

January 28, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

Man, the blind partisanship in this country has gotten out of control. You have people that won’t admit this administration has done anything good and you have others that think Bush can do no wrong. I sure hope the next election changes things. Of course if Hillary runs it is just going to get worst

By AD

January 28, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

Andy cannot dazzle anyone with his brilliance so he uses BS.

getalife..the scarecrows will stonewall. They have no other avenue. These elections in all parts of the world are proving our points for us. Bush has been devastating to our relations with the rest of the world. He has alienated countries that we will need on our side in the future. The next prez has alot of damage control to do.

By sct

January 28, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

Ricky, I feel sorry for whoever is elected President 2008. There are alot of things set to start boiling over soon, and whoever takes over is going to have one big mess to clean up.

By AntiRadical

January 28, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

Why do we always harp on what was done WRONG. Why do we rarely applaud that which is done right with so much less ardour. Today, the President called for renewed funding for nuclear fuel reprocessing, a step toward renewed interest in breeder reactor technology that was abandoned by Carter and Clinton. Just when I get totally sickened by the “midget” he turns around and does something astute. Go figure! As much as it pains me, I have to admit that occasionally the President does show signs of intelligence.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

It isn’t like I’m not giving you kook crackpot pinkos a chance. Provide one credible link to proof of anything that you say is Bush’s “problem.” I’ll even give you PMSNBC or C B.S. I would love to see PMSNBC come out a say Bush made Iran worse. It would thrill me to hear that.

Come on kooks, anybody can say it, prove it.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

AD,

I am watching Palestine drifting toward civil war and Iraq is already there. It seems democracy breeds civil war. It seems Dubya has not destroyed our faith in government but has destroyed faith in other governments. Way to go Dubya, you wanted to be remembered in the history books and you will.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

See what I’m talking about? Kook getalife says “civil war” but yet provides no proof of this. To another crackpot pinko, this is cause to celebrate, there is civil war in Iraq.

Now watch how a Con does it:

getalife: Iraqi citizens killing foreign Al Qaeda is a “civil war?”<——— Click here for proof.

The encounter ended angrily. A few days later, the insurgents said, Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia and the Islamic Army fought a bloody battle on the outskirts of town. The battle, which the insurgents said was fought on Oct. 23, was one of several clashes between Al Qaeda and local Iraqi guerrilla groups that have broken out in recent months across the Sunni Triangle.

Easy, isn’t it?

By Dandy

January 28, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

Everything is hunky-dory!

By getalife

January 28, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Of course you leave out that Mr. Murtha was right and we should not fight their civil war for them.

Take your pick Andy.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

I wonder if he will stonewall or smear?

By Andy

January 28, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

getalife: US Senators are credible? What happen to the coc? What’s next, Cindy Sheehan quotes?

By Dandy

January 28, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Hey everyone! How’s this for a cut-and-paste?

Gray skies are gonna clear up, Put on a Happy Face, Brush off the clouds and cheer up Put on a Happy Face. Take off the gloomy mask of tragedy, It’s not your style. You’ll look so good that you’ll be glad ya’ decided to smile! Pick out a pleasant outlook, Stick out that noble chin; Wipe off that “full-of-doubt” look, Slap on a happy grin! And spread sunshine all over the place, Just put on a Happy Face!

By getalife

January 28, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

smear.

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this

Getalife: Don’t let collective pessimism overcome you, it is bad for your health. Really! I care.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this

OO,

Actually, I feel better and getting stronger. Rehab is going well. Thanks for caring. Are you Dandy?

By buff

January 28, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

There is one person on this blog who keeps changing handles; but your writing style identifies you. Are you schizophrenic? bi-polar, or, just a coward?

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

No Getalife, I’m not dandy, unless you are using that as an adjective. I stick with OO.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

getalife: I’m waiting. A bunch of blowhard senators warning of a civil war that hasn’t happened is not exactly what I was looking for. Is this too hard to understand?

By buff

January 28, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

get

Hang in there, rehab requires perseverance, but, I suspect you already know that

My best to you

By getalife

January 28, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

OO,

It was the cheerful cut and paste job. Thought it might be you, people do use a lot of different names here.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

Thanks buff.

Andy,

I know you have read the history of the Iraqis and it is payback time. What about CIA officials, do you believe them?

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Buff: Are you Big Daddy?

Getalife: Are you AD or Lord Help Us?

Andy: Are you? You just are! You have found the truth which is so elusive to many. Congratulations! Reference to: “Napkin Notes On the Art of Living”.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

CBS News

By getalife

January 28, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

OO,

No, just getalife. I have posted Lord help us in a post but not a name.

By buff

January 28, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

0-0

Nope, just me

By buff

January 28, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

Midori

I found a pretty good chardonay, Lindemans, that is cheap, not bad, not bad

By Andy

January 28, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

getalife: The date on your article is:

Published on Thursday, January 22, 2004 by Knight-Ridder- CIA Officers Warn of Iraq Civil War, Contradicting Bush’s Optimism

Today is January 28, 2006. When do you reckon the civil war the utter geniuses at the CIA were talking about 2 years and 6 days ago will happen?

I’m wondering, just out of curiosity. I’ve been chatting with a group of people this morning who, if they can’t find any actual bad news about their country, they will make some up. Which leads me to ask: Are y’all dialing this in from Pakistan? From a cave?

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Buff: I want to commend you on your post the other day regarding higher education and intelligence.

If I had to replace the voltage regulator on my car, or install an HVAC unit for my home, I would concede ignorance. And I, like you, would not assume that their intelligence was limited to their field of expertise.

That assumption would indicate arrogance.

By SS57

January 28, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

If its not a civil war, then what is it?

By getalife

January 28, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Andy,

No NSA, I am in Louisiana, Andy is trying to set me up just like the smear tactics the coc always use.

You know I always post links so you can find fault in them.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

Here is one from Scotland

By Midori

January 28, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

My word. Where to jump in here?

I’ll just start by saying “hello” to everyone.

By Midori

January 28, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

SCT - Truer words have never been spoken.

It’s going to be a giant mess.

By Ricky

January 28, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

I love how those who hate Bush will say that countries in Latin America are leaning left because of Bush, but when Muslim countries like Epypt and Lebannon move more towards Democracy, it has nothing to do wit Bush. How does that work?

By Midori

January 28, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

I didn’t know that you had to hate someone in order to disagree with him, or point out his policies, um, what’s that word — suck?

By Ricky

January 28, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

Midori, I am not saying everyone that disagrees with Bush(which I do on many things) hates him. However, there are many people that post here that have nothing but hate for him

By buff

January 28, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

0-0

Thank you

It is called “Socratic wisdom,” that is, knowing what one does not know

I thought I was pretty smart until I got into grad school and realize just how ignorant I was

So many people in academe think that because they are “experts” in one area, thenhat makes them experts in everything; their arrogance astounds me!

One of the smartest people know is my father in law. Eighth grade education, but he built a business from nothing after WWII, retired at 51 as a Milt-millionaire

His generation, like my papa, NeoReo, who occasionally posts here, can do so many tasks: build a house, frame, wire, plumb, finish work, overhaul an engine, shoot a squirrel’s eye out with one shot, tie trout flies, and do so many tasks

My mother can do the same things, domestically; that generation is so self-reliant. They truly were a “great generation”

Today, we are all slaves to technology and have such limited abilities, boo hoo

By buff

January 28, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this

Dear God:

Thank you for this beautiful day in north Georgia!

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

Man, ‘she who must be obeyed’ comes in and makes me go fix the garage door, I come back an hour and a half later and nobody has been able to:

Provide us with the HUGE list of problems that have been resolved by this administration after 5 years with a Republican dominated Congress?

There must not be much of a list…

By buff

January 28, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us

You must listen to Boortz

What has any administration or congress accomplished?

Government keeps growing, growing and growing

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 01:13 PM | Link to this

Look at all the moonbats trying to build a prophylactic excuse for the next time they manage to slip one of their boys or girls into the White House…

Bush messed it all up…waahhh

I asked the world community to help, but they were still too mad at Bush…waahhh

We didn’t have any problems in the Middle East until Chimpy came along…wahhh

I know you guys think dictatorships are the easy way out, even the guy you hate so much says so. Doing the right thing is much harder. It allows for dissent and in formerly oppressed areas considerable violence. You don’t fix decades of ignored problems in a sitcom time frame.

Please announce your public support for the return of Saddam Hussein to power, because unless you do you are proving to anyone that reads this you live a fairy tale life.

On to the Palestinians, why is that the Bush administrations fault? Does the same dreamworld of yours let you believe that all was well when Arafat lived in the White House and a few Jewish kids were slaughtered every day. Do you even know there is no Palestine? President Bush was working on helping there be one. So did President Clinton, he worked out a deal that screwed Israel over royally. Guess who turned it down. Hint, he is the one that is in stable condition after dying in a French hospital. He also has a Noble peace prize. This nutty idea that Bush has to work with Hamas because they were elected is like saying the newly elected leader of the Crips should be invited to the next State dinner.

N. Korea exploited an absolutely abominable treaty worked out by Jimmy Carter working on behalf of Bill Clinton. Jimmy Carter also has one of those peace prizes. President Bush has been working with other affected countries to try to work with N. Korea to solve these problems. Since he is working with others you want him to act unilaterally. The same process is taking place with Iran, again you want President Bush to act unilaterally. How are supposed to have allies in the world when you think every time we work with them we shouldn’t and every time we don’t we should?

Face it, this President can do nothing right in your eyes and every perceived problem in the world is his fault and his alone.

I guess the double whammy of the swearing in of Justice Alito and the State of the Union address has you foaming at the mouth. Take a deep breath and relax, things aren’t nearly as bad as you think.

By Midori

January 28, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us,

that would be an impressive list, indeed.

By the way, are you one of these mysterious “Bush haters” I’ve been hearing about?

By BigDaddy

January 28, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this

Taking a short break from packing…

Lord Help Us, you are correct, this Congress has not done much other than spend money like Marion Barry on a bender. The only thing of note they’ve done is pass the tax cuts, but even those were not as large as requested by the White House, and have yet to be made permanent.

The death tax still looms; Congress had no spine to address Social Security reform; Sarbanes-Oxley was a good idea, but including small businesses under those expensive restrictions has proven to be limiting; the only reform we’ve seen of Medicare has been this hideously expensive prescription drug boondoggle. I could go on and on.

Overall, I’m very dissappointed in what the Republicans have accomplished (or rather, failed to) since they’ve had control of the entire legislative agenda. The country may be experiencing a bit of buyer’s remorse; however, the Democrats are not offering anything that is even remotely palatable. I mean - can anyone name even one plank of the democratic platform for the 2006 election other than blind, partisan rage at the Bush administration? Hate doesn’t win votes, ideas do. Unfortunately, I haven’t seen any reasonable or rational ideas out of the Democrats for a long time…

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

Let me guess, it was the reference to arrogance that touched an exposed nerve.

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

Don’t tell anyone, but I am secretly hoping for a McCain/Giuliani ticket in 2008. It will get my vote.

By BigDaddy

January 28, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us, your secret is safe here. That ticket will never happen, though. Dollars to doughnuts, the next POTUS will be a currently-serving Republican governor who runs as a fiscal conservative, not a “compassionate conservative.” I just have the profile now, it’s too early for names…

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us,

For this list you want, can we just throw out any laundry list of items we want to? Can it be like yours with no backup as to how they were problems and how they were fixed? Or does our side have to deal in fact while you get to use talking points?

By Who cares

January 28, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

The Politician’s Creed

Freedom toast, Freedom fries, Let the masses live in sties. Build a bomb, make a buck, Kill some folks, who gives a f*ck? Give a tax cut to the rich, Can’t hear the poor folk when they b***. I’ve got no time for civil rights, My portfolio keeps me up at night. I’m in Congress, I’m the MAN! I’ll give you all the dick I can. I’ll bend you over, “Get on your KNEES!” I’ll rob you blind, and won’t say “Please” I’ll screw you all without a peep, “Dear God, I THANK YOU for the sheep” “I’ve got the bug, I’ve been infected, It’s time to go get re-elected.” Promise all to everyone, “Less government!” “You keep your gun.” Stir the flock, start the bleating, Can’t win it fair, then start the cheating. A PAC for this, a PAC for that, ‘The Money Train’ is where it’s at. And when it’s over, in a while…. “Don’t SWEAT it, son, we’ve got CARLYLE!”

By Midori

January 28, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this

here’s the democratic agenda, if you care to read it

By BigDaddy

January 28, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

Midori, that’s lovely as talking points go; however, BigDaddy prefers to see actual nuts and bolts. For example, it’s easy to say, “I’m for fiscal responsibility!” The trick is how the Democratic Party defines fiscal responsibility. Traditionally, that has meant wealth re-distribution via increased tax burdens on the hated “wealthy.” Not a tenable solution…

BigDaddy needs more specifics than that…

By BigDaddy

January 28, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

Back to packing (sigh). BigDaddy hates to leave this AP bungalow, but bigger, greener pastures call, even if it is only a mile away…

BigDaddy will leave you with this - I had the weirdest meeting yesterday, fortunately (for you), cameras were rolling to capture the mayhem…

(may take a second or two to load)

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this

I guess BigDaddys meeting video has locked up computers near and far so I’m off to avoid the onerous blue laws we oppressed people in Georgia live under.

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

RW (Crispy) - No one on your side appears up to the challenge…this is not a trick question and I didn’t think it would be this hard.

Surely, someone posting here can tell us what problems have been resolved by this administration after 5 years with a Republican dominated Congress.

Anybody???

By buff

January 28, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

LHU

Shrub cut my taxes, but, overall, is a disaster on domestic economics

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

I love lower taxes too, unless the fiscal responsibility that needs to accompany lower taxes is AWOL and record deficits result…

Heck, cutting taxes is the easy part. Balancing the budget is the hard part and this administration flunks that test too.

By AD

January 28, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

I would love to hear Ricky’s explanation as to why Latin America is taking on such an anti-American lean. Enlighten us please Ricky.

By Midori

January 28, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

Buff — I almost didn’t post is, as I already knew what you were going to say.

What “specifics” has your side given?

By Midori

January 28, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry, I must have Buff on the brains :)

I was talking to Big Daddy.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

LHU, I believe things could very well have been a lot worse given the circumstances we have been faced with the last 6 years.

By buff

January 28, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

Midori, What did Clinton do, positively, or old man Bush?

Having me “on the brain” is not so bad :)

By AD

January 28, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this

Jay not jay. With the exception of 9/11, what has this administration had to face that doesn’t fall under the category of self inflicted wounds. Bush keeps shooting himself in the foot. He is faced with his own screwups.

By AD

January 28, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us, not one Bush apologist has even attempted to rebut the list you posted at 10:13 this morning. What does that tell you?

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

AD, well, to name just a few minor incidences… Dot com fallout. Around 9 hurricanes. Oil prices jumping through the roof…the quest for crazy islamics to destoy what we all hold dear.

By AD

January 28, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

And Bush’s policies have nothing to do with any of that? How is it that Mr. Bush can accumulate the resources to fight this war on terror but has nothing left for hurricanes that are as inevitable as the sun rising in the east? Mr. Bush invaded Iraq and then acts like it is a big surprise to him when the bad guys decided to jump in. Did he give a party and expect no one to come? And it just blows me away that the first words out of Canada’s new leaders mouth is a warning to the U.S. to mind its own business. That directly reflects what alot of the world feels about this administration.

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

AD, they rant, whine and obfuscate.

Faced with an extremely simple question, they run and hide.

At least Jnj gave it a half hearted, ‘well…it could be worse,’ response.

They gave no answer because they have no answer.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this

AD, this is not about one man. Its funny how all your sentences start with that man and then ends with what “Canada” said. These are long term goals the United States has to deal with. When you have to deal with your own affairs, you can’t always worry about what someone’s opinion of you might be.

By Poor Richard

January 28, 2006 03:47 PM | Link to this

Youre right about one thing Jay- this is not about one man. This is about the Freedom our fathers died for being taken away. Im not the least bit concearned with the PM of Canada’s opinion of me but I am concearned that even the Conservative leader of that country sees the corruption of the Bush administration’s foreign and domestic policy and you do not.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

PR, that’s nothing new coming over the border. And don’t stoop so low as to imply that I don’t realize that there is not corruption in Politics, but there are some that are on a witch hunt. I think they should all be audited. Go getalife!

By AD

January 28, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this

Unfortunately Jay not jay, what the opinion of others is of us will directly impact on our well being and prosperity. And with China in the game, their need for oil, relationships are going to be very important in the future. That is just the way it is. And while most may not care what the guy in Canada says or anyone else for that matter, the reality is that issues created today will impact on those of tomorrow. We do not have the resources to go it alone against the rest of the world indefinately. The time is coming when the rest of the world will need us less than we will need them. And when that day comes what do we do?

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

We use our resources, technology, and ingenuity to overcome those problems. A lot of heartache could be overcome if we would use our resources better and come up with alternatives as well.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

AD,

It’s (original) no special orders at this KFC.

there’s a few….

By AD

January 28, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

I guess what I am trying to say here is that as China’s influence grows…as they become bigger and bigger buyers of oil, alot of the leverage that we have been able to wield will be gone. Who trades with who may just come down to who is liked and respected the most. China is not going to ruffle feathers. They are going to become the major customer to many of those who now need to make concessions to us whether they like it or not. But everytime someone swallows their pride in kowtowing to us, it will leave a bad taste. They may give in now, but the resentment lingers. The Chinese will take advantage of that and sooner or later when we badly need a resource that someone else owns…well we will be screwed. And the day is rapidly approaching when we will not be able to use our military to get what we want when all else fails.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

What don’t you silly pinkos understand? Your list is lame, if you expect it to be addressed try providing some proof. Are you really that ignorant?

By Andy

January 28, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

It would be fantastic if you people could come up with a list of problems Bush has actually created not just something you heard from another pinko, much like “no end in sight� and “the military is overstretched.� This may be exciting to you but to us it is all so, how can I put this, boring? Tired? Worn out slogan like?

Enjoy bantering back and forth lies and crackpot theories amongst yourselves. Maybe, just maybe, you can get lucky and create a whole nother kook conspiracy, right here in this room, all on your own. Think about “Global Warming On Mars!� you know, something like that.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

The only thing that could make this day any more beautiful would be to have some Air Force B-52’s raining bombs down on Teheran right now. Either way, I’m sure we won’t have to wait too much longer for that to happen.

Yea, Air Force!

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this

There are so many participants who come here for open discussion, and often times agreements prevail. Conservatives or “wingnuts” as they are often labeled, have conceded that mistakes have been made. Every one of them, not just a few.

In a determination to discount those concessions, others come with an insatiable need to be affirmed as right no matter what. They cannot be right unless someone else is wrong. Where is the respect for dissent in that approach?

From where does that gut-wrenching need originate?

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this

AD, you look toward the future with a very negative attitutde. We are smart enough to make adjustments when needed. This is an “upheaval period”.

By Poor Richard

January 28, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this

youre right Andy-

global warming is just a crazy plot perpitrated by a cabal of radical left wing scientists who have devoted their entire careers to compiling millions of man hours of false scientific research to try and bring down the Bush administration for no reason

Im not the crackpot conspiracy theorist here

By AD

January 28, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

And the policies of this administration have nothing to do with this “upheaval period”?

By Poor Richard

January 28, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah and the media reports what it does because of its radical leftist bias not because the companies that own the media make or lose money because of what they report.

heres an example- GE owns NBC, CNBC and CNN- theyre also one of the biggest fossil fuel polluters on Earth now heres the quiz-

NBC doesnt report on Mercury in your water because-

A) its a liberal conspiracy or B) it will cost their parent company billions of dollars

think reeeealy hard

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this

This one should be:

There are just so many great reforms taking place my typing can’t keep up!

By AD

January 28, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this

OK Andy. If the list you are speaking of cannot be validated, you give us a valid list of what the Bush administration has done right. Verifiable achievements. You have been challenged throughout the day and have yet to step up to the plate. Step up Andy. Give us your list. Until then you as well are only expressing your opinion and the world as seen by Andy. Come on. We are waiting.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this

AD, I reiterate from the start of this little cluster f*:

*By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

AD, well, to name just a few minor incidences… Dot com fallout. Around 9 hurricanes. Oil prices jumping through the roof…the quest for crazy islamics to destoy what we all hold dear.*

By Andy

January 28, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

Check this out for your pinko honesty:

By AD

January 28, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

And it just blows me away that the first words out of Canada’s new leaders mouth is a warning to the U.S. to mind its own business. That directly reflects what alot of the world feels about this administration.

Stephen Harper: U.S. to mind its own business over Arctic sovereignty

00:54 2006-01-27

Canada’s next prime minister Stephen Harper used his first news conference Thursday to tell the United States to mind its own business when it comes to territorial rights in the Arctic North.

How much lower can you get?

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

RW (Crispy) - Please allow me to retort…

Quickly put a stop to the recession that the country had slipped into under the previous administration with new tax policy - new tax policy led to return to deficit spending (record deficts at that), added $2 trillion more debt and doesn’t even pretend to have any chance of balancing the budget

Finally a strong response to a terror attack - yup, 9/11 created a ‘no-brainer’ when it came to ousting the Taliban in Afghanistan. Any administration would hav taken them out. Iraq, on the other hand, had nothing to do with 9/11 and our war of chice there has weakened our overall ability to pursue the real perpetrators of terrorism

put the UN on notice that we are planning to subjects of some “one world government� - huh?

Passed a Medicare drug bill that Democrats had been promising for years. You might complain about the cost, but it’s a heck of a lot cheaper than the Dems plan and I know several people with Senior relatives that love the plan. - a give away to the pharmaceutical industry that provides some help to our Senior Citizens at a huge cost to out taxpayers. We could have gotten a lot more bang for the buck than this corporate welfare approach

Ended the hideous “assault weapons banâ€?, talk about something infringing on Constitutional rights. Actually, Congress did not renew the law, but his is pretty weak…

Brought the crooked CEO’s from the Clinton era to justice.- * weak, weak, weak*

Tore down administrative walls that kept our security agencies from cooperating with each other.- by eroding civil liberties…

Implemented the law signed by Clinton that said regime change in Iraq was the policy of the U.S. government.- Now we know that under the Clinton administration, Iraq was emasculated, their WMD were destroyed and Saddam was impotent

Helped guide Afghanistan to plant the first seeds of democracy. Congratulations, you got one!!!!

Got Libya to disarm - Yea, right

Laid out a plan to begin addressing the coming Social Security disaster. Republicans didn’t have the balls to discuss it so they let Democrats get away with refusing to discuss it. - This was a complete and utter failure…did you really mean to list this???

Gave minorities real and authoritative positions in our government - yes, almost 4% of Black Americans support this President

Sent a strong reformer to be our representative in the UN - * and the accomplishment is…*

Named John Roberts as Chief Justice - I’ll give you another one here, I think he’ll be a good one

After a brief stumble, named Sam Alito to the court - brief stumble? Did you not call his judgment into question when he said Harriet Myers was the most capable candidate??

But hey, since this was such a struggle, I will throw you a bone…Bush has remade the Supreme Court and the addition of his two (comparatively young) new additions will have a dramatic affect on that institution for the next 20+ years.

I tell you what, I’ll throw you one more…I think his Supreme Court appointments are great.

By AD

January 28, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

Jay not jay I really can’t speak to the Dot com fallout so I will not argue with you on that. Bush was not left with a perfect world or country. However, we do have hurricanes every single year. The pitiful response to those occurences were on his watch and directed by his appointees. Could it be that the aftermath..the incidences that you speak of would not have been so bad had the response been handled more competently. Where were the resources that we have seen respond to these disasters in the past? Most of the things you speak of happened on GW’s watch. The buck stops there. And once again. Bush threw a party in Iraq and the bad guys came.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

At one point during her address, which was part of a lecture series, some audience members booed when she cut off two questioners. “I’m not going to be lectured to,” Coulter told one man in a raised voice.

She drew more boos when she said the crack cocaine problem “has pretty much gone away.”

Is she trying to keep up with Pat?

By Poor Richard

January 28, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

Andy- are you that crazy street preacher guy on the corner that called me a fornicator? Your ramblings definately have a crazy street preacher feel to them.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

AD,

I’m glad to have offered you enough factual information for you to share your opinions with us.

Interesting that you would assume that Bush puts minorities in power to gain black votes and not because they were qualified. Shows alot about your bigotry, and in any case I didn’t mean just blacks when I said minorities.

The Presidents plan for Social Security reform can’t really be called a failure, much less an utter failure, when it wasn’t implemented. I might throw you a bone here, let’s just do nothing and let it die, the people that suffer can always blame the closest Republican when the system defaults.

By AD

January 28, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this

Patrick Doyle / AFP-Getty Images

“The United States defends its sovereignty; the Canadian government will defend our sovereignty,� Harper said. “It is the Canadian people that we get our mandate from, not the ambassador of the United States.�

There it is Andy. SOVEREIGNTY! Typical Andy. See what suits your position and spin it any old BS way. Disgusting.

By AD

January 28, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

This guys has already thrown down the gauntlet to the U.S. over arctic waters and declared that Canada will protect its sovereignty against the U.S. It seems that GW just doesn’t give anyone a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Exactly what I said in my post. The post above is Harper’s quote.

Andy, if you can’t come accurately…don’t come at all.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

AD, baldfaced liar: Whatever.

Poor Richard: I tell the truth, something you don’t want to hear, and this makes me a “street preacher?” That’s nice.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

AD, “However, we do have hurricanes every single year. The pitiful response to those occurences were on his watch and directed by his appointees. Could it be that the aftermath..the incidences that you speak of would not have been so bad had the response been handled more competently. Where were the resources that we have seen respond to these disasters in the past?”

Umm… not quite as many ‘caines like that in a short period of time and a city below sea level losing their dam…I don’t believe we have had anything happen on that scale lately.

Pitiful response? I think everyone knew that they (hurricanes) were coming. Get the F* out of the way or prepare for it! Where was the local and state government? I don’t see you asking that question… Important lesson learned: People need to start doing things for themselves instead of relying on the Fed to bail them out.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

AD,

Let’s pretend you are right and this guy is ready to attack U.S vessels in the Northwest passage. What would you have said if President Bush had threatened Canada on his first day in office?

By AD

January 28, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

Poor Richard…Andy just proved he wouldn’t know the truth if it sat on his face. All one has to do is go to my post on Canada and then go to Harper’s direct quote to see Andy’s idea of what constitutes truth “truth.”

I just stuck it to you Andy..you little twirp. And the evidence is right there for all to see. You may think you can get away with your BS with others here. But you’re in over your head now “little Castro.”

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this

RW (Crispy) - self annointed arbiter of what is fact and what is opinion

I never saw your retort to the facts I listed in my 9:13 post. I shall review them for you again for your reading pleasure…

In the last five years:

-An unstable terrorist training ground has been created in Iraq at the cost of over 2,000 American soldiers - with no end in sight.

-Iran is more dangerous

-North Korea is more dangerous

-The continent of South America is lurching toward socialism and is more hostile to the US

-Cuba is no different

-Democracy in Russia is failing

-Budget surpluses have been been turned into deficits and $2 trillion added to the US debt

-The US Government is dramatically bigger and more mismanaged

-The response to hurricane Katrina was pathetic (yes, at all levels of government)

-The Department of Homeland Security is a bureacratic disaster

-Civil Liberties have been further eroded

-Corruption is rampant in our Capital

-Social Security plan was a joke

-The US is less respected all over the world

-Our military is overstretched

I am not quite sure how you can absolutely define my list at opinion and your list as fact but I think, to be fair, both lists mix the two a bit…

By AD

January 28, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

See AD’s post of 8:36am. See what EXACTLY was said. Then see Andy’s BS. It’s in black and white.

RW..I think you have me confused with someone else. I have said nothing about minorities. By the way, Michael Brown is not black if you are talking about my hurricane response to Jay not jay. By the way. My wife is a minority so don’t try to intimidate me with the race stuff. I have said nothing racial. Typical tactic of the ignorant and defeated.

By Poor Richard

January 28, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

get some money in your pocket and you become so delusional- RW- Youre right that social security plan was great- the poor poeple could have just taken some money from their gold bullion pile and put it private accounts

Jay- Youre right about Katrina -Those homeless people should have just got in ther Limo and had the chauffer drive them out of town… they could have stayed at the Ritz until the Hurricaine was over

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

AD,

You’re right that post was fully intended for “Lord Help Us” sorry! I don’t really think it called for all that other crap though. Since you and LHU have been slapping each other on the a-ss all day it should have been pretty obvious.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

AD, so it’s Bushie’s fault? You could live off a loaf of bread, a jar of peanut butter and a gallon of water for a week. Again, where was the local and state gov. in all this?

By Andy

January 28, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

What’s the matter, anti American pervert, you don’t like getting caught with your panties down?:

AD, sissy liar said:

And it just blows me away that the first words out of Canada’s new leaders mouth is a warning to the U.S. to mind its own business. That directly reflects what alot of the world feels about this administration.

The truth would be:

Canada’s next prime minister Stephen Harper used his first news conference Thursday to tell the United States to mind its own business when it comes to territorial rights in the Arctic North.

What doesn’t anybody understand? Not only are these pinkos failures, they can’t lie very good either.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

Sorry AD, that was for Poor Richard. You guys are begining to look alike. My bad.

By AD

January 28, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

Good to see you back Lord Help Us. Andy’s “truth” was just on display. His alter ego RW has tried to “go racial” so you know they are on the run. You are an asset to this blog. Keep sticking it to them. They have yet to answer you from this morning.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

LHU,

This was inspired by your list

See how much neater that was than imitating “blogger” and dragging all your paste jobs around with you.

By AD

January 28, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

And by the way Jay not jay. For 4 or 5 days before the storm all the weather folks talked about was the possibility of it hitting N.O. Was your head in the sand that week. Or up your a#$ where it normally is? Tell me Jay not jay. Where does the buck stop on that issue? Like it or not. Bush’s watch pal.

By Poor Richard

January 28, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

Listening to Andy is kinda like watching the Colbert Report only Andy isnt joking. I hope you keep coming here Andy- you mke me look alot smarter than I am.

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

RW (Crispy) - That was Cool! How do you do a link like that? I have to have my neighbors’ teenager help me anytime I need to do something other than just type…

By AD

January 28, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

RW..if Bush had made that threat on his first day in office it would have been uncalled for. The point I am trying to make is, why did he find it necessary to say that? It seems to be symptomatic to the way alot of the world is seeing us.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

AD, you have tunnel vision big time.

By Poor Richard

January 28, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

for Jay-

Bush is the executive- federal response to diaster is his responsibility. Other people made mistakes too but it was his job to step up and be a leader. How is is that any edibtment of Bush on the war is interpreted by you as an enibtment on the soldiers as though they were one entity but when it comes to disaster relief Bush is unrelated to people he appointed and is not responsible for his own actions.

By the way- there were alot of people in New Orleans who couldnt afford a loaf of bread a jar of peanut butter and a gallon of water and also werent healthy enough to walk 500 miles. I know thats difficult for you to understand… but youve obviously never been homeless.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

LHU,

Click where it says “link to this” on an individual post and then just put it in a new post like you would an article or something.

AD,

I don’t know. It could be to show Canadian liberals that he wasn’t going to suck up to Bush, but they might also take it as saber rattling. So it’s kind of an odd comment, unless the U.S. ambassador’s comments were being played up big in the Canadian press.

By AD

January 28, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

Andy I gave you the direct quote from Harper and my post is there for the world to see. 8:36am folks. You lose “little Fidel.”

By AD

January 28, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

By AD

January 28, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

Has anyone seen the contents of the new Canadien leaders 1st press conference? The usual suspects here were touting this “conservative’s� win in Canada and using it to illustrate how this election somehow indicated a victory for the Bushies.

This guys has already thrown down the gauntlet to the U.S. over arctic waters and declared that Canada will protect its sovereignty against the U.S. It seems that GW just doesn’t give anyone a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Stephen Harper, Canada’s incoming prime minister, speaks at a press conference on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, on Thursday. “The United States defends its sovereignty; the Canadian government will defend our sovereignty,� Harper said. “It is the Canadian people that we get our mandate from, not the ambassador of the United States.�

Once again just for you Andy. There it is in black and white. Spin it your way now nimrod.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this

Poor Richard, “there were alot of people in New Orleans who couldnt afford a loaf of bread a jar of peanut butter and a gallon of water and also werent healthy enough to walk 500 miles” and that is Bushy’s fault how? Again, you don’t seem to have much problems with the local and state systems on this. I’m not saying it was handled properly, but give credit where credit is due.

By AD

January 28, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

Jay not jay, you are right that much of the failure rests with the local and state govs. But does that relieve the fed of its fail safe responsibilities? After all, our tax dollars fund FEMA and the fed does have a role to play in natural disasters. Since FEMA was placed under Homeland Security it seems to have lost what it was originally intended for.

By Poor Richard

January 28, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this

I’ll post it for you again Jay- read it this time

Bush is the executive- federal response to diaster is his responsibility. Other people made mistakes too but it was his job to step up and be a leader. How is is that any edibtment of Bush on the war is interpreted by you as an enibtment on the soldiers as though they were one entity but when it comes to disaster relief Bush is unrelated to people he appointed and is not responsible for his own actions.

By the way- there were alot of people in New Orleans who couldnt afford a loaf of bread a jar of peanut butter and a gallon of water and also werent healthy enough to walk 500 miles. I know thats difficult for you to understand… but youve obviously never been homeless.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 05:47 PM | Link to this

AD, no absolutely not. Important lessons were learned. But instead of pointing your boney little finger in everybody’s face claiming Bush’s fault, I think everyone can share some of the blame. Including God.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

By AD

January 28, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

And Bush’s policies have nothing to do with any of that? How is it that Mr. Bush can accumulate the resources to fight this war on terror but has nothing left for hurricanes that are as inevitable as the sun rising in the east? Mr. Bush invaded Iraq and then acts like it is a big surprise to him when the bad guys decided to jump in. Did he give a party and expect no one to come? And it just blows me away that the first words out of Canada’s new leaders mouth is a warning to the U.S. to mind its own business. .

I don’t see a d-amn thing about artic rights. I see a sissy with his panties around his ankles.

That directly reflects what alot of the world feels about this administration.

What are you trying to imply, intellectual lightweight.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this

Thanks PR, you can refer ^^above^^ to my post to AD.

By Poor Richard

January 28, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

then theres the whole Bunny Greenhouse scandal- the federal government handed over rebuilding contracts directly to Halliburton without taking bids from anyone else. This happened before all of the communities hit by Katrina had been visited by FEMA. Some of the Indian Reservations still hadnt been visited by FEMA last time I checked but Haliburton was sure taken care of, and for those of you who keep arguing that the Bush admin is no longer affiliated with Halliburon heres Cheney’s Tax Info

By Midori

January 28, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this

I find it utterly AMAZING, yes, AMAZING how the Bush supporters twist and turn in trying to defend him.

I can’t help but wonder how they would react if this was the performance of a Democratic president.

By AD

January 28, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this

And I see a moron that wouldn’t know truth or intelligence if, once again, it sat on his little face. Obviously you can’t think. My post was entirely about a guy that in his first press conference threw out a warning. I don’t care what the subject was. It was the act itself.

And Andy…you probably know alot about bending over with your pants around your ankles.

By Poor Richard

January 28, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

I love you Andy. I cant count on the weatherman or the preacherman but I can always count on you to try and spin everything people say in opposition to you and call that ‘Truth’

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Poor Richard,

You have made the argument that federal response was too slow and you are now saying everything should have gone out for public bids.

Do you see any problem with that line of argument?

By AD

January 28, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this

Jay not jay, I have enjoyed discussing things with you.

Andy..you are still a pitiful little moron that would be a good fit in Cuba. Enjoy your life of 24/7 blogging. Get a wife, a life, or something.

Goodnight all.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

AD,

Nice of you to acknowledge that I wasn’t throwing the race card around before you left. pr-ick. At least I apologized for misaddressing a post.

By Poor Richard

January 28, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this

Did I say anything about putting out for public bids? The dozens of bids for REBUILDING CONTRACTS were already there and they were completely disregarded in favor of Halliburon. These REBUILDING CONTRACTS were in the hands of Haliburton while citizens were still in 5 feet of water. My point is that corperate contracts took precedence to actual disaster relief to PEOPLE. If you didnt read every post with the express purpose of trying to spin and debunk you might actually read what Im saying instead of reading what you would like to hear.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 06:10 PM | Link to this

PR, we can read your mind. You lay there like an open book screaming like a little meme.

By Poor Richard

January 28, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Jay-its right there in black and white… any difficulty you have with reading is your own problem

educating you kids is so exhausting

I’m gone.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 06:17 PM | Link to this

c-ya, pal

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

Poor Richard,

Reading one of your posts is more like an Alice in Wonderland story than something to debunk. Look at the one about the evils of Halliburton. You sprinkle in something about bunnies, add a few Indian tribes, say FEMA a few times, and throw in no bid contracts to Halliburton. Then you hit us the proof, by telling us how much money Cheney and Bush make.

I couldn’t spin that if I wanted to.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this

Oooh, PR is an educator? Hmm… Coudn’t have smelled that, huh?

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 06:25 PM | Link to this

At least “AD” and “PR” said goodby, poor “LHU” may have followed my linking instructions and gotten lost in this blog somewhere.

By Scott

January 28, 2006 06:29 PM | Link to this

Correct you are, JEAN. These past 2 generations are the dumbest in the history of civilization. Raised on compter games and TV nonsense. Unknowledgeable on anything and everything. A false-pretense of being among the ultra “haves.” They have nothing and are nothing. And always vote blindly against their own self and financial interests as part of that goose-stepping wannabe-a-Nazi crowd. The U.S. no longer invents anything, nor does it manufacturer anything of quality. Just sitting stupidly and false-arrogantly back, letting the world pass us by. Courtesy of right-wing mentality/action. It’s all just history now. These cretins need to be eradicated for the stench that they are.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 06:30 PM | Link to this

Jay not jay,

If Poor Richard is an educator Heaven help us. You had it right earlier when you said they all looked alike. That might be the first time we’ve had three people at the same time that sounded exactly the same.

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

LHU (with talent on loan from God) is still here. Had to go refill my oxycontin prescription…feeling much better now!

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

Scott, why did you choose an American name to grace us with here this evening? I don’t know what America you are describing that you live in (if you do) but that’s not where I live chump.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this

It was tough to tell who was who RW. Scott may be from “Tex”as

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

LHU,

We were going to send a search party out in a few days. I hope Scott and Jean aren’t having a conversation, it might take months

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this

RW (Crispy) I am going to try the link thing for one of my ‘list’ items…Iran is much more dangerous now than it was five years ago

If I butchered it, don’t butcher me…

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this

Ooh baby, I feel like Tom Hank’s character in Castaway when he got that fire started…there’s no stopping me now, baby!

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

LHU,

How does anything in that story indicate that Bush administration policy has created the situation in Iran?

It sounds more like the Mullahs are scared they can’t get away with everything under the sun now.

If you think these people were peaceful allies all through the 90’s you might want to increase your dosage.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this

Ask Jimmy too!

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this

RW (Extra Crispy) - Iran is more and more hostile toward the US, more and more hostile toward Israel, actively subverting our occupation in Iraq, and marching toward nuclear weapons…on Bush’s watch.

Since you (from an ealier post) hold Clinton responsible for not taking care of the problems in North Korea that he inherited, why do you give Bush a free pass on Iran?

Don’t you agree that the combination of their acquisition of nuclear capability along with the recent election of a real nutcase is pretty scary? Do you see anything being done about it?

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this

LHU,

I didn’t hold Clinton responsible for not fixing an inherited North Korea problem. I specifically blame him for causing the problem Bush inherited, surly you’ve heard of the light water reactors and fuel oil Clinton and his negotiating partner Carter gave them if they would just say they wouldn’t build nukes. “That’s it just say it, we trust you.”

And I won’t give Bush a pass on Iran if he tries to give them a deal like that.

Yes, I agree that is a very scary scenario. Good thing we have some bases real close. I hope that we are secretly helping an overthrow effort, which may just work if the freaking New York Times doesn’t get wind of it too soon.

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 07:25 PM | Link to this

RW (Extra Crispy) -

Actually, Clinton inherited a heckuva North Korean problem from Reagan/Bush:

[Research continued for nearly two decades before the efforts came to fruition. According to the Congressional Research Service (CRS), the first major atomic reactor at Yongbyon was built between 1980 and 1987. This 50-electrical megawatt reactor is reportedly capable of producing enough plutonium each year to build a single atomic weapon.

The site at Yongbyon remains at the heart of North Korea’s nuclear effort, also housing two significantly larger reactors onsite that have been under construction since 1984, according to former U.S. Ambassador Robert Gallucci. If completed, these sites could produce enough fissile material for some 30 atomic bombs per year](http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/northkorea/nuclear.html)

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

LHU,

You may possibly the most hard headed person on this blog, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

Try to follow along:

I blame Clinton for the mess W.Bush inherited because of the way he tried to fix the one he inherited. Got it?

BTW, the formatting gets lost if you include multiple paragraphs.

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 07:30 PM | Link to this

Man, let’s try that again…thought I had this down:

In 1989, the North Korean government shut down the active reactor for some 70 days. According to South Korean, Russian and American intelligence estimates, workers at Yongbyon removed the nuclear core and processed enough plutonium to construct one or two atomic bombs. By 1990, the KGB reported to the Soviet Central Committee that “development of the first nuclear device has been completed at the DPRK [Democratic People’s Republic of Korea — North Korea] nuclear research center in Yongbyon.” The report went on to say the North Korean government would not test the device in order to avoid international detection. Within a year, the Bush administration made several diplomatic overtures in the hopes of bringing North Korea into line with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) Kim Il Sung’s government had agreed to in 1985.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 07:32 PM | Link to this

Well that should have been…be the most, but I guess as an option you could just change…may…to…are.

By buff

January 28, 2006 07:35 PM | Link to this

Poor R

Did you know that Clinton gave n -bids to Haliburton, that he chose BIG H over a lower bid once?, and that Gore gave a speech, I think it was titled “Re-inventing America” in which he spoke highly of the Big H

By Andy

January 28, 2006 07:37 PM | Link to this

In a joint press conference with his UK and French counterparts after emergency talks in Berlin, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said two-and-half years of negotiations between Germany, France, the UK - the so-called EU three - and Iran could go no further.

He said the EU’s confidence had been “repeatedly tested” by Iran, adding that Iran’s resumption of work at the Natanz nuclear enrichment facility on Tuesday constituted a “unilateral rejection” of the talks process.

I’m kind of wondering how you can blame Bush for Iran when he didn’t have anything to do with it. Oh, that’s right, LHU is a pinko. They blame Bush for everything.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 07:42 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Don’t you realize that we can never let any other country work with us or on our behalf.

Unless we actually go do something. Then it changes to, the world is going to hate us if we keep acting unilaterally.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this

dem’s creed: “sit on hands”

By Andy

January 28, 2006 07:48 PM | Link to this

RW: I think the reason the EU always wants to go first is so that they can scope out the bribe money availibility. Apparently Iran would come off with petrol dollars, so now it’s back in Bush’s court. And, of course, it’s his problem, always has been.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 07:49 PM | Link to this

Let’s try this again:

RW: I think the reason the EU always wants to go first is so that they can scope out the bribe money availibility. Apparently Iran wouldn’t come off with the petrol dollars, so now it’s back in Bush’s court. And, of course, it’s his problem, always has been.

By Midori

January 28, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this

Republican’s creed: Clinton did it first.

By Lord Help Us

January 28, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this

Saying Bush doesn’t have anything to do with Iran is like saying SPP/Andy/OO doesn’t have anything to do with goats.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 07:53 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy has been holding out on us, but now we know something about the screen name.

Good Luck tonite, BigDattis!

By Midori

January 28, 2006 07:56 PM | Link to this

hey guys - will you be watching Tuesday night?

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 07:56 PM | Link to this

That’s true Midori, we try to learn from our mistakes.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 07:59 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Good cartoon, I can’t imagine how bad off our nation would be without those guys.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 08:08 PM | Link to this

Andy,

That’s probably why they want to get Russia in there. If France, Germany, and Russia work together they can crank that bribe pipeline up quick. Especially if they can get some cover from Kofi.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 08:08 PM | Link to this

During Tuesday’s night rhetoric, they are going to use this to see if he can tell the truth about anything.

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 08:11 PM | Link to this

Gracious, LHU, sorry but here is Wilson

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 08:13 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I hope they get one of those things turbo-charged by the time Mrs. Bubba runs.

By Andy

January 28, 2006 08:15 PM | Link to this

US troops in Iraq cut by up to 20 percent: US general

I seen them running from Iraq! Sure did. They jumped in the Gulf and swam back to America! It’s chaos, I tell you, chaos!

By getalife

January 28, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this

RW,

There should be a helmet scanner placed on politicians heads when they are asked if they are corrupt.

One thing about the Bush administration, you can tell where to invest your money. Big oil, defense, drug companies, etc…

By Andy

January 28, 2006 08:28 PM | Link to this

Finally, a voice for the pinkos that doesn’t need talking points:

Cindy Sheehan Considering Senate Run

She would be “on message.” Hell, sometimes she is the message.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 08:35 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I just wandered through this lobbying firm’s web site, they have their hands in just about everything. Maybe you should look into it.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 08:38 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Cindy and J f’ng K are fighting over who gets credit for changing DiFi’s mind. I would love to see Mama Moonbat run for Senate.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 08:43 PM | Link to this

RW,

My blog is focused on the ongoing investigations (snitching by Tom, Jack and Duke). If I looked into all the lobbyist corruption, my blog would have way too much data and my half brain would explode.

On a lighter note, how is Sonia? I saw a post today by “who cares” and thought of Sonia.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 08:46 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Sonia is doing just fine, she visited earlier which is always a shock when I open the comments page instead of opening the link instead.

I think you refuse to investigate the Cassidy group because I got there through an ad on your blog.

You are now being paid off by lobbyists and have joined the coc.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this

Man “finch” will have to come work on my wording today. Ignore the second instead.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 08:53 PM | Link to this

RW,

D’oh! Also on my first link “What time is it?” the address at the bottom is K Street.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 08:58 PM | Link to this

getalife,

A check is on the way to you from lobbyists, you are promoting your very own K-Street project, and you are trying to get a new set of politicians into Washington.

hmmmmmm……sounds a little fishy.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 09:03 PM | Link to this

RW,

I will have to donate the money to the getalife med fund.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 09:11 PM | Link to this

getlife,

Yes,yes donate the ill gotten money to a charitable organization. Just what the rest of the coc does.

Did you spam the Swimmer over at Kos?

By getalife

January 28, 2006 09:23 PM | Link to this

RW,

Just did.

They are going after Ann

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

getalife,

It looks like they are playing right into Ann’s hands.

By WashingtonState

January 28, 2006 09:44 PM | Link to this

Sounds like earmarks work a lot better than straightforward bribery. You can get your own personal pork project funded with one of these. Who knows, you might even get a highway to nowhere named after you.

By WashingtonState

January 28, 2006 09:51 PM | Link to this

RW, Anne is certainly a good example of uncivil discourse, but she is hardly worth getting worked up over. She does a service by showing people how puerile name calling is.

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 09:53 PM | Link to this

Just for the record, I want to say…..I have never had sexual relations with a goat. Andy will have to speak for himself.

By RE

January 28, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this

why don’t you all like each other?

why dont you think ted kennedy cares about the us?

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 10:05 PM | Link to this

OO, LHU got lost in the “fever swamps” as Andy would describe it. RW tried to give her a hand and she tried to bite it.

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 10:12 PM | Link to this

Who is up for a little fun? Big Daddy, I have put some items on hold for you at some of Atlanta’s classier stores. Read where this was your weekend to move. When you’re finished, see if you may have a place for this or this Be sure to check out the urinal to the left. If not, I’ll cancel the order and keep looking, with you in mind.

Objective Observer’s Inferior Decorating Service

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 10:15 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

Why don’t you link directly to the thongs, we’re going to wind up there anyway.

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 10:17 PM | Link to this

JayNot: I saw that. I have been out celebrating a birthday, and come back to see all sorts of nastiness. It inspired me.

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 10:21 PM | Link to this

R.W.: The thong show was a one time only event. No, wait a minute, twice thanks to you, and a third time thanks to Getalife’s site. Oh well, once, twice, three times the lady. I’m game.

Did you guys have fun today?

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 10:26 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

Well it certainly seems to be on both of your shopping selections for BigDaddy.

It has been a fun day here and outdoors. I though I might have had a chance at last coveted wingnut with the manifesto I began with at 1:13, but I guess it wasn’t spicy enough.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 10:28 PM | Link to this

or maybe because I leave at least one freakin’ word out of every post.

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 10:32 PM | Link to this

You came awfully close R.W., I just assumed you were cranky from lack of sleep. Oh by the way, I had no idea admission of wrong would be painful for you. I apologize!

(Set to music) Let’s give ‘em something to talk about.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 10:36 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

You lost me, what admission and where are you involved?

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 10:37 PM | Link to this

Did you take Butterscotch outside during the nice weather. That would be nice.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 10:38 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I gave you a hat tip on my Annie post.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 10:41 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

Butterscotch loves people, but hates the outdoors. She has a second tumor and a lot of lung congestion, but she still runs around like there’s not a thing in the world wrong.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 10:42 PM | Link to this

RW,

Thank you but you could have pimped my blog by making that hat tip a link to my blog like this:

Hat tip to getalife

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 10:43 PM | Link to this

Unless I misunderstood, it was here:

By RW-(the original) January 28, 2006 03:10 AM

But you just spoiled my fun.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 10:45 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

I think anything between 1:00 AM and 5:00 AM should be off limits, but you appear to be right.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 10:46 PM | Link to this

RW,

Sorry to hear about butterscotch and saw your cat. Do they get along?

By Objective Observer

January 28, 2006 10:47 PM | Link to this

I’m glad Butterscotch is happy. I’m off to bed because……..my feet are cold. Hurry up June.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 10:50 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Butterscotch not only loves people, she loves any living thing. She would last about 3 seconds around JoJo if Jo wasn’t petrified of her.

If I make the hat tip a link, naked people will start showing up.

By getalife

January 28, 2006 10:50 PM | Link to this

Goodnight OO.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 10:52 PM | Link to this

OO,

You say you are off to bed, cold, and want June to hurry…are you trying to tell us something?

By getalife

January 28, 2006 10:59 PM | Link to this

RW,

You just want all the naked people to yourself.

Good night.

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 11:01 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You try to pick fights with them.

Goodnight!

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 11:01 PM | Link to this

OO, it wasn’t our b’day was it?

It was a beautiful day today. getalife: I am a fan of Vegas. How about when they crank up the song:

“You can leave your hat off”…? /hat tip to getalife

By Baker

January 29, 2006 02:26 AM | Link to this

Well, here in the big city the streets are pretty quiet tonight. crime seems to have taken a brief holiday. So, a breather for a few minutes.

But not so in the White House. Anyone hear The Imbecile’s radio address Sat?? This has got to be the most ill-spoken, ill-educated, ill-thinking geek to ever step upon the WH lawn, let alone squat in the oval office. A total life-failure at everything he couldn’t buy. Most of the misfits on this blog don’t know it, but there are some really good books out there by Bush classmates all along his trail of debris. The cheer-leading, never-play lifetime drunk. Scientists who work constantly with drunks reveal the “the age of ‘the official self’ is the point where one can officiallybe classified an alcoholic.” It is also the time when the mind virtually permanently shuts down in its ability to learn or interpret new data. For Bush that time was very long ago - so naturally it shows easily and readily. How disgusting he is. Looking forward to Tuesday’s SOU joke. Seems like 2005’s occurred only yesterday. How is it possible for ANYONE of any political persuasion to view or listen to this little guy without being personally embarrassed?? Praise Geesuss!

By Andy

January 29, 2006 06:09 AM | Link to this

Brain Scans May Be Used As Lie Detectors

Maybe for the pinkos they can make a machine that detects truth….

By Andy

January 29, 2006 06:19 AM | Link to this

So now liberals are going to crack down on adultery, see the front page of the litter box liner. Isn’t that unique coming from the people who brought you adultery 24/7. And if you are a woman and get caught, just follow these easy instructions and say the church “coerced” you. (A 14 year unconsensual relationship, honey, he raped me, honestly.)

What’s next AJC, a campaign against homosexuality? Are you waiting for some “preacher” to get caught before it becomes a “bad thing?”

By Andy

January 29, 2006 07:11 AM | Link to this

Oh, good, A&E is going to do a movie about Flight 93. I can just imagine some of the dialouge…

Muslim Hijacker: We would have continued to live in peace with you Americans but Bush, that infidel Bush and Cheney and Haliburton! We can no longer allow the NEOCONS! to steal our oil and give us only 20 times what it costs to produce!

Muslim Hijacker #2: Yeah, we would have never have done this with AlGore as president, I would have been a global warming professor but Bush CUT FUNDING FOR KYOTO! and hijacker was the only job I could get.

Muslim Hijacker #3: O.K. everybody let’s sing Kubaya in honor of the religion of peace and then will cut your throats in accordance with verse 27.

By AntiRadical

January 29, 2006 08:12 AM | Link to this

Actually Andy, the Republicans brought us the nauseating spectacle of televised 24/7 “adultery” congressional hearings ad infinitum. At least the Dems were keeping it in the closet where it belonged. Now that the President is getting some of the same heat, though, all you Neos just want to whine and groan; big bad Dems are picking on us. Get real. After the Clinton congressional spectacles, the Reps have NO right whatsoever to say one single word about scrutiny now directed at them. After all, what’s sauce for the goose…

By SS57

January 29, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this

Hey Andy,

Your not going to get any good debates out of those numskulled comments. Come better please.

By Objective Observer

January 29, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

R.W.: Just caught up on last night’s posts. You have got to be kidding with your link not even a remote possibility, (pregnancy or lesbianism, whichever you were implying). Come to think of it, fluffy women don’t seem to have cold feet, so maybe I should eat more, exercise less. I could easily go for that.

I see Big Daddy couldn’t come out to play. I tried! Wanted to leave you guys to have a little fun.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

AntiRadical: Thanks for reminding me of that, my man, I had forgotten the “it’s just sex” Clinton alibi, so why is it front page pinko news today?

hypocrisy- n- 2: insincerity by virtue of pretending to have qualities or beliefs that you do not really have.

By the way dude, you have a serious paranoid mental disorder- Now that the President is getting some of the same heat- When did I say anything about “the president?” When you kooks are hiding under your beds do you have horrible thoughts of BUSH! finding you there? Why don’t you hitch your panties up and be a man?

By AntiRadical

January 29, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

Republican Rose Colored Glasses

Bill Clinton is a scumbag adulterer ‘cause he got a one-time blow job from Lewinsky in a Whitehouse closet. Newt Gringrich (Clinton’s main accuser/whiner) maintained a long running affair(even during Clinton congressional hearings), maintained his mistress in high style, and when he was finally exposed, he ABANDONED his family. Yeh, those Republicans are paragons of virtue, legends in their own minds!

By Andy

January 29, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this

All across Decatur, as the first hint of morning peeks through the windows of the pinko, the terrible realization begins to form in their minds as they awake, the depressing somber acceptance that the strip clubs aren’t open on Sunday.

What, oh what, is a pinko to do? We could go to the massage parlors and see our “wives.” But we haven’t the money for such a venture, the end of the month and our government checks don’t come until Tuesday (thanks, gay finch.) Oh, the humanity! Maybe we could go to Church? BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Alright, I got it, let’s go to the movies!

By AntiRadical

January 29, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this

Newt Gringrich mulls over run for President in 2008! What’s wrong with Republicans don’t they know they are the “virtuous” party. By the way, where were the congressional hearings on Gringrich? Oh yeh, that’s right he QUIT to avoid them! Guess those are some of those American family values like bribe-taking that the Reps keep trying to teach all us dullards.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this

Bill Clinton is a scumbag adulterer ‘cause he got a one-time blow job from Lewinsky in a Whitehouse closet.

April 4, 1999

All the President’s Women

A Newsweek reporter tells how he got the story of Clinton’s sexual misconduct.

Paula Jones

Kathleen Wiley

Genifer Flowers

Juanita Broddrick

And who knows how many he didn’t get caught with….

AJC: Oh, look, a Republican! is cheating on his wife! Gosh! Golly! Gee!

By AntiRadical

January 29, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

Andy doesn’t have a double-standard, does he? Adultery is only adultery when Dems do it. When Reps do the same thing, though, let’s run them for President. Andy, just admit it. You have no integrity, you traded it for your partisanship.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this

Andy doesn’t have a double-standard, does he? Adultery is only adultery when Dems do it.

Double standard, indeed..

With words like “I don’t care what the President does in his private time” or “It’s issues that matter, not morality” Clinton has helped ensure that America does not get worked up about perjury and obstruction of justice.

Not anymore they don’t. Let’s git dem Repuges!

By AntiRadical

January 29, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this

There you go, Andy. What Clinton did wrong was perjury and obstruction of justice, not f******. F****** is not a crime. If you want to defend Gringrich he can be defended in that respect but he is as guilty of adultery as Clinton was (maybe more so). It’s a real shame too ‘cause Gringrich is a very intelligent guy who would have made a great President (adulterer or not). However, since he set the moral standard, I DO insist that he abide by it. If Reps run him, I will have to vote against. Not a problem, though, this next race is already looking like a “vote against” race (Hillary, Kerry, Dean, J.Bush, Cheney, etc.) McCain looks like the only viable candidate so far and that is no great complement. The only thing Reps have to worry about is if the Dems pull another “Jimmy Carter” and run a total unknown so that people can vote against the status quo. Lord help us!

By AntiRadical

January 29, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

I’ll be switched. Stupid machine thinks that f-ell-atio is a dirty word.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

Your right, AntiR: I had forgotten that Clinton also lied, I thought we were just talking about sexual “misconduct.” So when did Gingrich lie under oath about it?

By AntiRadical

January 29, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

Andy: Gingrich didn’t lie, he quit and hasn’t really offered a decent explanation to this day. That’s why he can be defended in the respect that he was an adulterer but not a perjurer or obstructor of justice. Sex stuff is really in the eyes of the beholder but lying and manipulating are illegal.

By Jesus

January 29, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By finch

January 29, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

Sigh… Andy-pie, you really should find another hobby.

On second thought, keep it up. The wife gets hysterical every time you call me gay and homo. Hysterical laughing! She laughs and laughs and says the reason you loathe the plot of “Brokeback Mountain” is because it hits too close to home! hee hee…..

Andy-pie land. Where men are men, and sheep are nervous.

For those not obsessed with their sexual identities, and the sexual identities of others, I urge you read the following:

Why the Bush administration is a paragon of deceit - Spies, Lies and Wiretaps

I win again!

By getalife

January 29, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

Face the nation: Dubya,”I check in with Bill Clinton.”

By WashingtonState

January 29, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this

The Office of the Inspector General is finding some major screw ups with the new Medicare welfare plan for Pharmaceutical companies. And what a surprise, the Federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid are “vigorously attacking the findings of the Inspector General.” Another example of this administration taking responsibility?

By WashingtonState

January 29, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

Lawyers with a conscience.

Interesting article in Newsweek about a number of lawyers who resigned from or were forced out of the Justice Department because they thought that domestic eavesdropping was crossing the line. Of course, they must all be liars and malcontents.

By AntiRadical

January 29, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., who appeared with Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., on “Fox News Sunday,”, said all White House correspondence, phone calls and meetings with Abramoff “absolutely” should be released.

Bush adviser Dan Bartlett rejected Democratic calls for an independent prosecutor to investigate. “Were going to let the career (AKA ‘appointed’) prosecutors do their job and I’ll bet they get to the bottom of it,” Bartlett said. (must be nice to be able to choose your own investigator, huh)

Bush adviser Dan Bartlett said on CNN’s “Late Edition” that prosecutors investigating Abramoff have not asked for any White House records. “They haven’t done that because they’re not relevant,” Bartlett said. (I wonder if an INDEPENDENT prosecutor would feel the same about their relevancy)

Bush said he had his picture taken with Abramoff an unknown number of times, but he said he doesn’t remember taking them and the two never sat down and had a discussion. (That’s actually plausible considering the Presidents’ mental prowess. I’ve had my picture taken “an unknown number of times” with lots of people I don’t remember, too. Haven’t you?)

IF the President was squeaky clean, he would have trumpeted the news in every forum of the free world but that’s not what he’s doing is it?

By Andy

January 29, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

oddball gay finch: Next time, you may want to reconsider dragging your wife into this, you’re awfully lucky that I have just emerged from Church or I would have been having quite a time with wifey-pie right now.

Before you silly pinkos declare me obsessed, why don’t you consult the front page of the litter box liner? Is that what makes for copy here in Hotlanta? The president of the nation can turn the White House into the oral office without nary a concerned look from the pinko nation but let one preacher fall victim to human failings and it’s off to the pulpit of liberal sanctimonous outrage, clumsy and unpracticed as it may be.

Open said newspaper up and thumb through to the movies section and read to my obsessed a-ss all of the praise and glory heaped upon a movie that narrates a story of two men and their anuses.

Have you found a billboard or perhaps a marquee somewhere with my name on it?

a·nal- adj.- Of or relating to the second stage of psychosexual development in psychoanalytic theory, roughly from ages one to three, during which gratification is derived from an obsession with the anus and defecation. The anal stage is preceded by the oral stage and followed by the phallic stage.

By candide

January 29, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

It little disturbs me that clergy are found to have broken their own morality or vows. They are only human like the rest of us. Much more serious is their having fed their audience the awful and malignant lies which Christianity is based on. Christianity is at best a fraud and at worst a severe mental illness. Anyone duped by clergy probably deserves it.

A rational being could have figured out that Christianity is B.S.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

Here’s obsessed in case you were wondering, as their industry swirls down the toilet bowl of history, they heap praise upon themselves:

Prize Fighters- They made the most moving, provocative films of the year. In our annual roundtable, five directors (one of whom sidelines as an actor) talk about passion, fear, politics, Oscar ads and crying at the movies.

Nor was it Clooney and his stylish paean to Edward R. Murrow, “Good Night, and Good Luck,” or Lee and his mournful love story, “Brokeback Mountain,” that generated the most praise.

Totally out of touch with America and soon to be on the ash heap of history.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

Saddam, Defense Team Walk Out of Trial

So when does the execution start? Isn’t it, like, past due?

By getalife

January 29, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

First picture of Jack with Dubya

By WashingtonState

January 29, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

Candide,

You are mistaking the perversion of Christianity promoted by priests and ministers for the genuine article. The teachings of Christ are a model of moderation and respect for others. Whether you see Christ as Divine or not, his teachings bear little resemblance to what is being promoted by the religious right. Most of America is coming to realize this.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

DAVOS, Switzerland — Former U.S. President Bill Clinton told corporate chieftains and political bigwigs Saturday that climate change was the world’s biggest problem _ followed by global inequality and the “apparently irreconcilable” religious and cultural differences behind terrorism.

Nobody has told him that when it warms up outside the chicks wear less clothes…

By WashingtonState

January 29, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Enough with the chicks already. I believe you when you say you aren’t gay.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I guess that explains why Clinton never did anything about terrorism, it was just “irreconcilable differences”.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this

RW: Isn’t that a trip that he considers global warming a bigger threat than terrorism? It’s like Earth to Bill, come in Bill.

By Poor Richard

January 29, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

I just thought I would drop in and tell you guys about the newest climate expert to be targeted by the fossil fuel lobby and their puppet President- Dr James Hansen

Im not going to waste my time trying to wake you up Andy but I will alert you to the fact that many of us were p-issed about the Clinton scandal, it just took 5 years of Oil boy for many people to realize how good we had it under Clinton. But it isnt about Dem versus Repub- I would take ANY republican President in history over George W Bush. Give me Nixon… please give me Nixon!! Ultimately the only reason anyone still believes in this guy is becuase he (like the corporations he represents) has the best advertizing money can buy. Do you drink Miller Lite so women will fight over you also?

Its a perfect plan the- corporations love the lack of restraint under Bush so the Media outlets they own dont report most of the evil he does and anything negative that does get through you will chalk up to Liberal Bias-

Heres a clue- the Media reports or dosnt report stories not because of some radical bias but because the parent companies would rather make money than lose it. For instance- GE makes alot of money off of the reduced emission standards under Bush… therefore the media outlets they own make reports concearning fossil fuel emissions that cast this in a favorable light. incedentally heres a list of the companies that own the media and heres an article explaining how the Administration got around laws regulating mercury output even though congress rejected the ‘Clear skies initiative’

You Andy- sit on your computer all day spouting conspiracy theories. I FOLLOW THE MONEY and I encourage anyone reading this to do the same. This is the only way to find the truth that is buried under the advertizing.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Don’t forget about “global equality”. Wasn’t it Clinton that refused to send Kyoto to Congress after they insisted (95-0) that China had to be included? I put up a satirical post about another of these “climate change chicken littles” that said in the New York Times that his voice was being silenced by Bush. Since the Times apparently thinks theirs is a voice in the darkness I decided to help them out.

Sorry for the blog pimping, but it is on topic.

By Poor Richard

January 29, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

Ill post those 2 links again in case anyone had trouble-

who owns the media

how the administration mercury regulation

Read carefully folks and keep folowing the money- these people think they can get away with this because they think that we cant figure it out or that we (like Andy)dont want to…

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

Hey Poor Richard is talking about the same clown I am.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

Try this conspiracy theory on for size, kook Richard:

You crackpots are emboldened to a theory put forth by government subsidized agencies that also get paid a lot of money to come up with the conclusion that the Earth’s atmosphere has warmed a 1/2 of a degree last century which incidentally lengthens the growing season for most of the planet and increases food production, which I consider to be a good thing.

This is in comparison to the 7000 degree burst of heat at the epicenter of a terrorist nuclear bomb explosion which gives a whole new meaning to the term “global warming.”

You have your concerns, goofball, I got mine.

By Midori

January 29, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

I see the lie(s) continue about Bill Clinton not confronting terrorism.

Why are you people fixated on Bill Clinton?

George Bush has been “president” for the past 5 years.

Why can’t you people focus on the here and now?

Why must you resort to the past? Always the past.

By Midori

January 29, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

I think it’s pretty pathetic when the only way you can defend Bush is to dust Bill Clinton’s p*** off for further inquiry.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

By the way, kook Richard, since you are concerned with what I’m doing, let me give you a real time update: I have my 3.33 GHZ Pentium 4 laptop set up out on the screened in porch, the wireless connection is pushing 3/4 speeds and I’m enjoying the beauty of this gorgeous North Georgia day, working around the yard. I will, on occasion, check to see what you crackpot liberal pinkos have to say.

Thanks for your concern.

By Poor Richard

January 29, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

I dont think that global warming is a bigger threat thatn terrorism Andy- Im smart enough to realize that the 2 topocs are linked.

Oil is the biggest way that we financially support terrorism… so reducing or eliminating our dependence on it hits terrorists where it really counts- in the wallet. Shooting terrorists while buying more and more oil from them doesnt fight terrorism- it breeds terrorism. Im not against military action against terrorists but doing so while giving terrorist organizations more and more oil money is just stupid.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this

Midori,

When Clinton makes a speech saying that Global warming is the Number 1 concern facing the World, why isn’t it relevant to point out the way he tried to constrain the U.S. with Kyoto while excluding China?

I think you see the name and just go apoplectic without bothering to see why the comment was made.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

So Richard: You agree we should be drilling in the artic wasteland that is ANWR and that we should convert our electricity production to nuclear energy?

By Poor Richard

January 29, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

I love how you guys keep talking about terrorist nukes caue while our military is caught up in a war with people who didnt attack us and didnt have nukes North Korea and Iran are gearing up… Im glad you are all so perceptive.

By Midori

January 29, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original)

January 28, 2006 07:59 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Good cartoon, I can’t imagine how bad off our nation would be without those guys.

And imagine how much better off our country would be if Bush didn’t bend over to every last single one of them.

Profits over people.

What a great domestic policy.

By getalife

January 29, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

Dubya is getting pressure from the coc to come clean on Jack.

This lack of cooperation is starting to pile up and stinks like New Orleans.

By Midori

January 29, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this

By Jay not jay

January 28, 2006 07:56 PM | Link to this

That’s true Midori, we try to learn from our mistakes.

so, why are you still Bush’s lapdog?

Oh wait - first one must have the CAPACITY to learn.

By Midori

January 29, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

Spies, Lies and Wiretaps

By Midori

January 29, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

Do you think Bush thinks about the war?

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

A good companion piece to the Spies, lies BS column

By Midori

January 29, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

When the President talks to God, are the conversations brief or long? Does he ask to rape our women’s’ rights And send poor farm kids off to die? Does God suggest an oil hike When the president talks to God?

By Poor Richard

January 29, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

No Andy neuclear plants make us more vulnerable to terrorist attacks and have potentially dire consequences to the people who live near them. Drilling in tha arctic reserve can also cause catistrophic damage to our national wildlife refuges, not to mention the fact that it would be 10 years before we saw a drop of the oil.

Alternative fuel vehichles reduce our dependence in a very fast and real way, but all of the big tax encentives go to people buying huge SUV’s that add to the problem instead of alternative fuel vehicles that help it.

As far as power production Stanford Ovshinsky (hes the guy responsible for that laptop of yours)has developed solar panels that are fast and cheap and nearly indestructable- were talking thousands of jobs and the United thates being at the forefront of technology again- with this technology we could have more free sustainable energy than we could ever use

By the way he has also developed a solid fuel hydrogen car- thats solid fuel as in safer than gas- we could be driving these things in 5 years if the governemnt poured half of the money into technology that actually helps that it does into oil.

The fact that Bush holds big conferences on reducing fossil fuel dependence and doesnt even mention this stuff is just another example of hoe the Oil companies have him on a stringand if you think that nuclear plants and arctic drilling are the answer… they have you on a string too

By Midori

January 29, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

Good to know there still are principled conservatives left. But for how long?

By Poor Richard

January 29, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

Stanford Ovshinsky for President!

By Poor Richard

January 29, 2006 03:17 PM | Link to this

you talk about limiting our need for foreign oul by irradiating the poor and poisoning the earth

Im talking about eliminating our need for oil by making the U.S. the undesputed technological leader on earth

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

Look what else has Midori singing the praises of this Comey guy.

It was Comey who appointed his friend—the equally straitlaced and dogged Patrick Fitzgerald—to be the special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame leak-investigation case.

You don’t find that until you get to page 4 and after you find out he was also spouting off about Cheneys secret torture prisons. This guy was trying to undermine the administration on at least three fronts.

This certainly calls into question the fairness of Patrick Fitzgerald.

Thanks, Midori!

By getalife

January 29, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this

Smear alert!

By AntiRadical

January 29, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Andy, I wish the “sour” taste that many people now have for ministers goes way beyond “Bishop” Paulk. Pat Robertson, Jimmy Swaggert, and Jim Baker come to mind. I saw Baker on TV the other day selling (oops, I mean “taking donations for”) some kind of vitamin muck. BARF!!!

Candide: To deny the contributions that religions have made to the betterment of mankind is disingenuous, at best. Of course, as you know, to ignore religions potential for error, false piety and self-righteousness is disingenuous, at worst. For some, it can be an organizing principle for themselves that they find no need to foist on others. For others, it can be the seed of hate, superiority and lust for control. You can’t be told this, of course; you have to be shown. I’m truely sorry that no one has shown you and that is a reflection of our society, not of yourself.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You nailed it! Midori and this Comey dude are trying to smear the good name of everyone in the Bush administration.

You should expose him on your blog to gain back the trust of your disgruntled readers over there

By Poor Richard

January 29, 2006 03:32 PM | Link to this

I know because anyone who says anything bad about the administration cant be trusted- that way the administration is perfect even if its not. I love your logic there. Why enen read the news or try to know whats happening when you can sit in your house and assume Bush is the best President ever-

Ignorance is bliss.

this raises the question- If Bush had appointed you and you found out that he was breaking the law would you tell the People? or would you call yourself a patriot while underminig everything America stands for?

By Midori

January 29, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

Bush doesn’t need my help smearing neither him nor his administration.

He does it himself every time he opens his mouth.

“DUH”!! Thank God for September 9/11!!

By Andy

January 29, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this

That’s nice, Richard, but:

God made ANWR an environmental catastrophe. Even the Caribou won’t hang out there now, there’s too many mosquitoes. They are all in Prudhoe keeping warm by the oil pipeline.

I can’t disprove the ten year theory but I can say I don’t believe that. It’s like maybe if they didn’t work on it for nine years. There has to be mindless government regulations pushing this time frame. I now the regulatory review is 5- 10 years for nuclear which is anti Americanism at it’s finest, when do you think we’ll see some glow in the dark children? These plants have been operating for decades.

Alternatives are nice and they sound cool but where are they? The Jetsons came out in 1960, where’s all the spaceships at? If this was such a promising deal the private sector would develop it and then cash in on it. I see no one making a move on it.

While we continue to screw ourselves in the mind with these “alternatives” our wealth goes to the very people that want to kill us. Sometimes I wonder if that is not what you liberals want and the reason you obstruct us like you do.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

I’m going to go out on a limb and proclaim that Poor Richard has a tough time with subtle humor.

By getalife

January 29, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

New coc leadership.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this

The liberal “advantages” to not converting coal fired electricity production to nuclear electricity production:

“30,000 deaths per year in U.S. result from air pollution due to emissions from fossil fuel burning power plants.”

Global warming: Burning fossil fuels produces vast quantities of carbon dioxide, for example 3.7 tons for each ton of coal burned, and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere traps heat, increasing the earth’s temperature.

Acid rain: Burning fossil fuels releases large quantities of sulphur dioxide and nitrogen oxide gasses which combine with moisture in the air to produce acids that fall with rain.

Air Pollution: While global warming causes only economic disruption, and acid rain kills only fish and trees, air pollution kills people and causes human suffering through illness.

Coal mining: Sixty percent of U.S. coal is obtained by strip mining, which involves removing up to 200 feet of covering soil.

All this compared to someone might get killed by radiation. As it stands now more people die from dam failures than from nuclear energy.

I can see why the liberals favor burning coal.

By AntiRadical

January 29, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

ANWR will be tapped sooner or later. Population pressure will demand it, of course. It’s not a question of “if” it’s only a question of “when”. It’s too remote to be considered a strategic reserve (too easily seized in war). “Use it and save the good stuff for later” would be the prudent course. Of course, this still leaves all the limitless environmental and political problems associated with an “oil” economy. The only truely viable proven currently available and debugged alternative is nuclear breeder technology which the President just resurected hope for with his ok of associated nuclear waste refinement a couple of days ago. Reagan had this one nailed in days and reapproved it. Clinton reinstated Carter’s moratorium. Now that we have to watch ALL nuclear material to the utmost degree to avoid “dirty” bombs, his and Carter’s explanation of danger of diversion secondary to plutonium cycle is kind of frivolous. ANY nuclear material can be made into a “dirty” bomb so we should be taking advantage of already proven “breeder” technology that is used in a good portion of the worlds’ reactors, now. Breeders make their own fuel and burn their own waste. Good for the power grid AND the environment. If plants are kept small and disseminated more, there will not be enough mass in any one core to allow it to “go critical” ala TMI/Chernobyl.

By AntiRadical

January 29, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

Note: Each breeder reactor currently can “double” itself (produce enough extra core material to twin another reactor from itself) in about 10 years (while producing power all the time). http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nucene/fasbre.html for those who might be interested.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this

So getalife: If they’re replacing corruption in Palestine, what are they replacing it with?:

So I’d like to believe this was a vote for getting rid of corruption rather than getting rid of Jews. But that’s hard to square with some of the newly elected legislators. For example, Mariam Farahat, a mother of three, was elected in Gaza. She used to be a mother of six but three of her sons self-detonated on suicide missions against Israel. She’s a household name to Palestinians, known as Um Nidal — Mother of the Struggle — and, at the rate she’s getting through her kids, the Struggle’s all she’ll be Mother of. She’s famous for a Hamas recruitment video in which she shows her 17-year-old son how to kill Israelis and then tells him not to come back. It’s the Hamas version of 42nd Street: You’re going out there a youngster but you’ve got to come back in small pieces.

By getalife

January 29, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Let us focus on our own corruption:

“Any suggestion by critics or anybody else to suggest that the president was doing something nefarious with Jack Abramoff is absolutely wrong, and it’s absurd,” presidential adviser Dan Bartlett said on NBC’s “Today” show. The best way to refute such “absurd” suggestions is to get all of Mr. Abramoff’s dealings with the Bush White House and the Bush administration out in the open —* now*.

By getalife

January 29, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

Payback is hell:

Mr. McClellan dismisses requests for the information as an effort to play “partisan politics,” and no doubt there is more than an element of partisanship in Democrats’ efforts to extract this information. But Republicans wouldn’t stand for this kind of stonewalling if the situation were reversed. We can say that with confidence because history proves it. During the 1996 scandal over foreign fundraising in the Clinton White House, Republicans demanded — and obtained, though not without a fight — extensive information about White House coffees and other meetings, including photos and videotapes.

By getalife

January 29, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

Your people want to know

And so do I.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

getalife: George Bush took 3 large, Harry Reid took 61. Harry influenced legislation which is something Bush can’t do directly. He can only suggest, Reid can author and attach earmarks. You have the wrong target in your crosshairs, as usual.

By getalife

January 29, 2006 05:47 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Reid is on my blog but why is Bush not coming clean with Jack?

Stonewall or smear is not going to work on this issue.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

Seperated at birth, it seems Kerry has quite a few look alikes.

By AntiRadical

January 29, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

Wickipedia-Breeder Reactors discusses breeder reactors and newer breeder designs (SSTAR) that produce tri-component plutonium fuel that is then infeasible for use in nuclear weapons. Also, mentions India’s herculean successful efforts to develop thorium cycle breeders (thorium is much more plentiful than uranium). While the USA has slept, the rest of the world has been developing the technology we initiated in order to gain themselves safe, clean, convenient, and FREE energy. Weren’t we smart???

By Andy

January 29, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

By Midori

January 29, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

wow, RW. Bush has quite a few lookalikes, too!!

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this

WTF?

By Andy

January 29, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

By Midori

January 29, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

wow, RW. Bush has quite a few lookalikes, too!!

By getalife

January 29, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

Looks like Andy is on top of Midori. Blog sex?

By getalife

January 29, 2006 06:06 PM | Link to this

The Andy character is bi polar and his good side is Midori.

There are meds for that you know.

By getalife

January 29, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this

I am sorry, or her good side?

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this

So that’s what they are doing.

Exhibitionists!

By Fred

January 29, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

Let’s cease the B.S. It’s time to HANG BUSH. And his fellow criminals. In a public execution. For his high crimes. Let’s get on with it!

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this

Fred,

Are you one of the people who think President Bush is violating the Constitution?

By Andy

January 29, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this

Finally, at 5:54, mark it on your calenders, I had nothing to say.

Newt has more ideas in his head than all of the democrats alive since 1900 put together. He is a virtual party platform by himself just waiting to be implemented. He is receiving some serious presidential considerations from this camp.

Republicans reform thyselves Fifth article in line, cartoon boy won’t link to the San Diego Tribune.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

Check out Michael Kinsley, ultra pinko, contemplating why the libs have lost 5 of the last 7 elections:

And then there is election of 2000. We can argue forever (and will) about who won that election, but if the question is whose views attracted more voters, there is no dispute that the answer is the Democrats. Attributing 2000 to the Democrats means they have won two of the past three elections, three of the past four, and a non-apocalyptic three of the magic seven.

Such deep, far reaching, insightful wisdom makes you want to rush out and vote pinko, don’t it?

By getalife

January 29, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

That would be drop dead Fred?

By Midori

January 29, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this

Andy - maybe all those “ideas” Newt has came from all of the wives he cheated on and disposed of.

Wonder how wife number 3 that he cheated on with wife number 2 that he cheated on with wife number 1 doing?

Wife number 1. Isn’t that the one he served divorce papers on while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery?

Wonder which of those ideas came from her?

By Midori

January 29, 2006 06:42 PM | Link to this

Mercy. Ah do declare.

Andy “quoting” a liberal!!!

Is this the end? Is the rapture upon us?

RUN!!!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!

By Paul

January 29, 2006 06:50 PM | Link to this

Hey Fred, that’s a nice scene to envision. A rope around his neck and one of his favorite booze bottles down his alcoholic throat. With his buddy Pat Robertson calling it “God’s revenge.”

Tuesday night will produce this professional high school/college cheerleading sissy with his usual “tough talk.” Warning Iran. Hamas. Babbling about the great unemployment rate - but never acknowledging that most of the new jobs are low-paying, poverty-level instead of mfg. People cannot afford to live in Bush’s America. I’d string up the SOB’s who voted for him as well. Anyway, such a full-time lying buffoon such as Bushie is always fun to watch. Unfortunately, it’s our shame exposed to the rest of the world as always. God’s very own little misfit.

By getalife

January 29, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

God’s very own little misfit.

Man, that is good stuff.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this

Hey RW, look the libs are discussing their policies:

A rope around his neck and one of his favorite booze bottles down his alcoholic throat.

I’d string up the SOB’s who voted for him as well.

By getalife

January 29, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

God’s very own little misfit.

Man, that is good stuff.

By getalife

January 29, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this

Made me laugh.

By Objective Observer

January 29, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this

I wondered why nobody mentioned Gingrich as a viable candidate in their discussion the other day. With the exception of a few minor differences, this is a guy that even democratic voters could support. He is addressing the concerns they mention here quite frequently.

I can overlook any past indiscretions from a man with this kind of vision. Before anybody attacks, I overlooked Clinton’s too.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 07:06 PM | Link to this

Andy,

It’s closer to a policy than what their candidates come up with.

By Andy

January 29, 2006 07:20 PM | Link to this

OO: I previously didn’t think he was serious about it. Remember, he photo oped with Bill’s “wife,” which is usually a career killer, but strangely that all went away. He’s been all over the place lately and he’s making sense. I would have to look closely at a Gingrich/ Rice or maybe a Giuliani/ Gingrich ticket.

It really doesn’t matter, though, seeing how the democrats will probably run Pee Wee Herman again like they did the last two times.

By Objective Observer

January 29, 2006 07:33 PM | Link to this

I’ve always liked him. Smart man. Tough skinned. Interesting combinations. I like it.

It would be a shame if his past prevented such a promising opportunity for the country, but then that is politics.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 07:33 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

I’ll throw in a vote for Newt, he would be a great President and it would be nice to redeem Georgia’s name after Jimmah.

By Objective Observer

January 29, 2006 07:36 PM | Link to this

Well then, let us pray! UhOh. Duck!!!!

By Midori

January 29, 2006 07:43 PM | Link to this

Would one of you Keyboard Kommandos trade places with this man?

By Objective Observer

January 29, 2006 07:51 PM | Link to this

Midori: Are you asking for an Andy/R.W. ticket in 08 or an R.W./Andy ticket in 08. Count me out, I’m indifferent to attacks, but not thick-skinned enough to endure.

By Objective Observer

January 29, 2006 08:02 PM | Link to this

Did anyone see Mike Wallace interview Howard Dean this afternoon? Wallace slipped up and said “We’re out of money” instead of “We’re out of time”, Dean was all over it. Unfortunate mishap, it rattled Wallace, but only a little.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

The funny part was Chris never seemed to realize he said “money” and couldn’t figure out why Crazy Howie started ranting. I bet he got a good laugh when he saw the tape.

By Objective Observer

January 29, 2006 08:15 PM | Link to this

Oops! I meant Chris, Mike has been around so long, I always associate Wallace with Mike. Maybe I’ve caught your typo disease.

By Ricky

January 29, 2006 08:20 PM | Link to this

So lets recap some of the left’s leading lights and their activites over the past couple of days. Jimmy Carter has become a fan of Hammas. John Kerry thinks the Alito nomination is so important that he needs to try and filibuster, yet he is in Davos, Switerzland hob-nobbing with the elite of the world. I guess it really isn’t important after all if he is not even going to be here for the debate or vote. And Cindy Sheehan has become fast buddies with Hugo Chavez and is talking about running for the Senate. What a weekend for the wacky left.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 08:23 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

Well they are father and son. My typo disease isn’t really contagious. All it takes is to be a very slow typist so words in your head get left behind.

By Midori

January 29, 2006 08:31 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

a lot of politicians were in Davos. Democrat and Republican alike. As a matter of fact, Saxby Chambliss was one of them. So what’s your point? Is he an “elitist” too?

and what’s this fixation you have on Cindy Sheehan?

Need another mommy? Or does she need your specific permission to run for office?

By Objective Observer

January 29, 2006 08:33 PM | Link to this

Ricky: When you put it like that, it begins to look like a collaborative effort to self-destruct.

By Midori

January 29, 2006 08:33 PM | Link to this

Objective Overseer, er, Observer

If I recall correctly, I don’t believe I said anything about a “ticket”.

Reading is fundamental.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 08:39 PM | Link to this

Let’s see if Media Matters well matters.

Two politicians are at an economic forum in Davos Switzerland, both are obviously hobnobbing with the elite…(and I know more than two were there, so don’t get itchy typing fingers)…one is going about the business of the forum, the other is claiming urgent business needs to be done in Washington that he must lead the way on. A filibuster must be ginned up and John Kerry is the one to do it.

The elitist is the one that thinks he should be in Washington, but can’t disappoint his rich friends.

By WashingtonState

January 29, 2006 08:44 PM | Link to this

Speaking of ANWR, when are they going to open up the Destin tracts off the coast of Florida? First election, Jeb made a deal with George to keep his mitts off because of fear of the damage it might do to tourism and the real estate industry. I understand that deal is about to expire. Oil rigs off the coast of Florida should be a welcome sight to patriotic Americans.

By Midori

January 29, 2006 08:46 PM | Link to this

RW,

In your haste to AGAIN negate the source and try to insert your spin, all the time ignoring the substance of the comments, you will note that those excerpts from Media Matters comes from MEDIA TRANSCRIPTS.

You people tire me with your hypocrisy and “selective” history.

It’s almost time for Family Guy.

The Griffins make more sense than you do.

Good Night.

By Semper Fi

January 29, 2006 08:47 PM | Link to this

So Paul wants to kill everyone that didn’t vote his way. Shocking, just shocking. But at least it’s a plan.

By WashingtonState

January 29, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this

Semper Fi,

Sound like a common theme from both sides these days. a la Coulter, so to speak.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState,

Most of the proposed rigs off the coast of Florida are for natural gas and would be about 20 miles offshore. I think Governor Bush needs to drop his opposition to them and President Bush needs to start lighting a fire under Congress over them.

Some goofball said it would take 10 years to get the oil from ANWR, it’s been just about 11 since a President I can’t name without driving a certain overly sensitive poster crazy, vetoed it.

By Semper Fi

January 29, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

You’re right. She was also wrong and got called on it, as she should.

By Objective Observer

January 29, 2006 08:57 PM | Link to this

You just never know when sarcastic humor will be wasted!!!

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 08:58 PM | Link to this

Midori,

It must be sad to have such limited reasoning capabilities.

It was Media Matters that tried to claim that if anybody in Davos was asked about appearing to be an “elitist” then all should. I merely showed you why the situations were different.

I’m glad you have your cartoons to fall back on.

By WashingtonState

January 29, 2006 08:59 PM | Link to this

RW, They have a fair amount of untapped oil out there too. Twenty miles is out of sight of land and its a whole lot closer to refineries than Alaska.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 09:13 PM | Link to this

WashingtonState,

I’m for getting the oil too. I only said what most of the current exploration proposals are for. Whenever I point out to someone that twenty miles is out of view they switch the argument to spills. That argument, at least as it relates to weather, should be over after Katrina and Rita.

We need to tap ANWR too, if for nothing else to save the assorted critters from the oil that is already seeping up out of the ground.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 09:19 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

I don’t think it gets wasted on everybody, usually just the one it’s addressed to. Isn’t that part of the fun.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 09:35 PM | Link to this

What do you know, all this time there was a good cartoon on this topic out there.

Eat you heart out, ml.

By Objective Observer

January 29, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

R.W.: The look on Carter’s face in that cartoon says it all. He really does live in his own little idealistic world. I voted for him???????

I was reading an article at Slate on “How to Civilize Hamas” or something, it was interesting. In theory it is plausible. But only time will tell.

By WashingtonState

January 29, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this

RW,

That cartoon cuts both ways. After all, isn’t the current reason we are in Iraq to bring democracy to the middle east? The only problem is that the divisiveness caused by religious differences in the middle east is even greater than it is in the United States. Free elections in many of the middle eastern states may well end up looking like that. Look at what is happening in Latin America, where free elections are producing a pronounced shift to the left. Evo Morales is just the latest example of that. Wait until Mexico votes.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 10:20 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

I hope you only voted for him in 1976 and/or before. That was the years the Dems could run Pee Wee Herman and actually win.

Come to think of it they did.

WashingtonState,

We discussed that ad nauseum yesterday ^ ^ up there and I’m sure we will again another day, but I’m not up for it right now. The article Andy linked at 5:09 today is good reading about Hamas.

By RW-(the original)

January 29, 2006 10:30 PM | Link to this

Here’s another good article about why Hamas taking power is good.

I agree with Jacoby, but I doubt we will get any more realism out of it. BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) sufferers won’t allow it. Everything has to be Bush’s fault.

By WashingtonState

January 29, 2006 10:57 PM | Link to this

RW,

It isn’t BDS, it is USDS. Our democracy has worked well for us, but it doesn’t automatically follow it will work as well in other cultures. Wolfowitz’s greatest miscalculation was thinking that introducing the democratic process into an area long divided by religious schisms would somehow allow those divisions to be kept in check.

By Brett

January 29, 2006 11:24 PM | Link to this

You are certainly carrect, Fred. I travel internationally constantly now for 25 years. Used to be a time for decades when about all we Americans had to be humiliated about was the typical “Ugly American.” Some fat, uneducated, unmannered, pushy, loud-mouthed cultureless slob. Bad enough. But now, thanks to Bush in just FIVE short years, we are, as a country, properly despised by people throughout the world.
It is everywhere and it is inescapable and unmistakable. There is no respect - nor should there be. The right-wing trash love to blame everyone else for all their failures. But THIS one is strictly theirs - and we all suffer because of it. This is only the beginning of the problems. Just look around. The Bush punks on this blog should be taken out and….

By Ricky

January 29, 2006 11:26 PM | Link to this

Midori, again you missed the point of my post. I don’t care that Kerry went to Davos. What is funny to me is that he is making such a big deal about filibustering Alito, yet apparently he doesn’t think it is important enough for him to skip a trip to Switzerland. Good job trying to change the tune of the argument though. I know there are Republicans there too. That is part of what is wrong with Washington these days is that there aren’t enough people there that represent real America. See Midori, I can be critical of both sides. You on the other can’t. That is why you are a blind partisan.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2006 12:47 AM | Link to this

I think it’s entirely possible that if “Brett” has been traveling internationally for 25 years then that’s the reason why those people feel the way they do.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 04:42 AM | Link to this

Unlike he did with Harry Reid,

Abramoff never lobbied or attempted to influence Mr. Bush on behalf of his clients, said a source familiar with the visits, but did have his picture taken with the president, as did hundreds of other visitors attending those events over a four-year period.

• Sen. John Thune, South Dakota Republican, said on “Fox News Sunday” that “more is better” and that he would “be a big advocate for making records that are out there available,” but disagreed on the photos. “I don’t think it’s useful to have pictures released, because, clearly, all the Democrats want to do is use those for political purposes.”*

By candide

January 30, 2006 05:57 AM | Link to this

Washington State: Christ’s teaching had already been distorted before the New Testament was written. So all of what we call Christianity, even your version, is B.S.

And Jesus’ apocalyptic teachings (see Albert Schweitzer) were deluded from the start. So he has nothing to say to us.

“Good” Christians and Rightwing Christians are all wrong. Christianity is hopelessly wrong.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 06:11 AM | Link to this

I have the sure fire formula for success in Hollywood this coming year. Direct and produce a film about “a mournful love story” with a pedophile and some grade schoolers. It doesn’t have to be any good, you don’t need any stars and don’t spend a lot of money. The pinkos will do the leg work and advertising for you. Like “Brokeback/ homosexuality” this year and “Million Dollar Baby/ euthanasia” last year, you will receive awards, accolades and the title of your movie will get run above the fold in all of the extreme left wing “news” papers, like the AJC, for months and months on end. You’ll have to become a hypocritical drug addict and hate America so that you fit in to Hollywood, I never said it would be easy. You won’t sell many tickets and the majority of Americans will think you are a freak, but so what? Take the pinko money and run.

By Ricky

January 30, 2006 06:36 AM | Link to this

I see candide is back with her anti-religion talking. I wonder why she hates Christianity so much?

By delta refugee

January 30, 2006 07:12 AM | Link to this

I wonder why Andy likes bringing up Brokeback Mountain everyday….

By candide

January 30, 2006 07:25 AM | Link to this

Ricky: Christianity is based on incorrect historical, information. It is a lie. That’s why I hate it. If there were a god he would also hate it, since he is said to hate lies.

As for Andy, we all know he is a homophobe and a Christian fascist.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 07:35 AM | Link to this

Who brings up “Brokedick Mountain” every single day, you freaking sodomites?:

Atlanta Journal Constitution- Peers give ‘Brokeback’ director top honors. Monday, January 30, 2006

By Poor Richard

January 30, 2006 07:57 AM | Link to this

Andy- I just woke up and read through your 4pm posts from yesterday.

First of all ANWR will take at least 10 years to implement and cost tax payers billions. It also has about enough oil to last us for a year heres the exact figures from the govtbe sure and read the part about how its going to reduce our foreign oil needs by 2% in 10 years 5% in 15 and then its going to start running out of oil.

Lets not even mention the 200 hundred species of animals that make the reserve their home, many of which are endangered impact on wildlife so your contention that “God made ANWR an environmental catastrophe” is a load of crap

Finally if your looking for a source of oil in North America look no further than the oil sands of Canada which has hundreds of times the amount of oil of ANWR and no terrorist threat.

on to the other bullsh-t you wrote-

As for why ovonic solar energy isnt all over the news- it is for the same reason that you dont know anything about organics- the sorporations that make billions off of oil sales and pesticide ridden foods are the ones that own the media outlets. Despite the concerted efforts of people like your beloved President and his oil buddies more and more people are finding out about this through word of mouth and they continue to see steady growth despite the oil lobby’s attempts to stupefy you.

Stanford Ovshinsky’s Solar panels are going to put the cost of solar energy below that of coal in the next 5 or 6 years even though the many people in the energy establishment want to silence him. As for the solid hydrogen fuel system- it continues to be tested and refined and if the government put half the money into that that they did into research for oil companies (52 billion dollars this year that the oil companies should have payed for themselves)- they we could be driving hydrogen cars in 10 years or less- but the politicians are in bed with the oil companies

read more about Stanford Ovshinsky

as for nuclear energy not being a threat see chernobyl. As something like 2 million people were irradiated in the 3 mile island incident- had this been as bad as Chernobyl thousands would have perished. Not to mention the terroists in the mid east who like to fly planes into buildings and reak havok (remember them?)cooling towers are easy to find and are a prime terror target (especially when you consider that with some support we could all have solar pannels on our houses and never need power plants again in the same amount of time it takes to implement them.

One more thing- I live near a coal plant- so dont preach to me about how mush I want to destroy my home by using coal- I dont. But unlike you I point to realistic alternatives rather than the plan that will make Halliburton the most money. I have been very cordial to you even though you are an ignorant pr-ck so if you want come here and suggest that I want to help terrorists and hurt my country because I dont agree with your moronic ideas then you can go strait to h-ll.

Sincearly

Poor Richard

By Poor Richard

January 30, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

P.S.I forgot about the trains- you keep talking about how Im a communist because I support an adequate cross country electric train system and better public transit all round- isnt the fastes way to lower our oil consumption to lower the number of people who are sitting in traffic for 6 hours a day in a huge SUV. Who in here would rather take a nice new train to work than sit in traffic for 6 hours? Sleep late… good trains have dining cars- have a nice meal while you cross the country instead of eating McDonalds on the run or have a beer on the way home without being harassed by the police… does this sound good to anybody else?

By finch

January 30, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this

So Jack Abramoff “never lobbied or attempted to influence Mr. Bush on behalf of his clients”, according to a shill in the birdcage liner Moonie Times?

I suppose he was just there at 1600 Pennsylvania for swag. You know, some White House pencils or coffee cups.

Which means he certainly waon’t doing what his clients were paying him to do, was he?

Why doesn’t the White House just release photos and records of Abramoff visits? Fat sweatboy Scott Mclellan said it would, then backtracked. If Clinton could be compelled to release stuff on White House “coffee” fundraisers, what’s the secrecy deal with Bush and Abramoff? Something to hide, maybe?

And I suppose Republican lawmakers who once opposed limits on lobbying “gifts” now support them (according to Bloomberg News) out of a sense of fair play? Yeah. Right.

And it appears the White House is far more involved in domestic spying than it lets on. We know how dangerous Quakers and vegetarians can be!

Kudos to the boys at “Brokeback Mountain”! A fine film gets the recogintion it deserves.

By delta refugee

January 30, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this

Here we go again, Andy how much are they paying you to HYPE Brokeback mountain? Your doing a great job, but im still not going to go watch it.

By Steve SC

January 30, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

Re Poor Richard’s comments on trains: On a recent business trip to Pennsylvania, I had to go to NYC for the day. Two choices: Drive or take the train. Taking the train was cheaper, but I’d have done it even if it had been more expensive. It gave me 3 hours working time each way that I wouldn’t have had if I had driven. Saw the same thing in England three years ago. Trains can be a real productivity enhancing tool.

By candide

January 30, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

Andy: how is what gay men do with one another any more disgusting that what heterosexual couples do? They both stick it in wherever it will go.

Incidentally, Brokeback Mountain is a devastatingly fine movie.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

Crackpot Richard:

Caribou photos Is this what you want to “protect?”

Staying Warm Or maybe you would like the caribou to be cold?

I’m glad I could get you kooks to go on record about your obstruction of our domestic oil and nuclear energy production. Now everyone knows why we are paying $2.50 for a gallon of gas and $800 a month to heat our homes. You might think it is great to sacrifice our national wealth to keep a herd of caribou from maybe being damaged. Speaking for sane, normal Americans, we say thanks alot you goofy pinkos.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this

Candide: You consider this whole world to be here for your pleasure and nothing else, a great big empty life devoid of any purpose or meaning, what difference does it make if I answer your questions of morality?

By Andy

January 30, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

O.K. you can have the photos. Enjoy!

By Brian Curtis

January 30, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

And yet the neocons are hard at work trying to keep us dependent on oil—an obviously foolish plan that will only get worse as resources dry up and we become even MORE dependent on unstable, violence-filled regions to keep our basic infrastructure.

Great plan, you guys. “More oil.” Yep, that’ll fix things.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

Well, what do you know, Brian Curtis finally does something besides a drive by smear and it turns out to be totally ignorant. Nice job, your very first credible post and you blew it.

Here’s where you get a chance to redeem yourself. Tell us all what else we can do besides oil, what will replace it today, this minute. Freezing to death?

By Midori

January 30, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

[Only the uninformed believed Bush when he said it was WMD’s that made him attack, invade, occupy and massacre Iraq. Most of us thought it was to steal Iraq’s oil, but we were only partly right. What totally terrorized the tyrannical Texan tycoon was when Saddam played the oil bourse card in November, 2000. When Saddam started selling Iraqi oil in euro’s, he jeopardized the U.S. dollar’s hegemony as the world’s supreme foreign exchange transaction currency. If this brilliant idea catches on, it will trigger the total collapse of the USA economy. The oil grab is a sideshow. The main feature is the oil bourse.

The Neocon global domination agenda is engendered by the denomination of global oil transactions in greenbacks. America prints out the bucks that are required for the purchase of oil, and the world has to produce stuff they can sell to get the bucks they need to buy oil. Printing Monopoly ‘fiat’ money only costs America the paper and green ink, so the USA dollar has been fattened on oil-enriched chicken feed since Tricky Dick delinked the buck from the bullion. The oil bourse scheme could so seriously setback US suzerainty that Saddam got stomped to smithereens. Krassimir Petrov, who teaches international finance in Bulgaria’s American University, warns “should the Iranian Oil Bourse gain momentum, it will be eagerly embraced by major economic powers and will precipitate the demise of the dollar.” Saddam was just the first wavelet in the coming tsunami. On March 20, 2006, Iran will start selling oil in euros.](http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11704.htm)

By Andy

January 30, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this

I apologize to A&E for my post the other day about the “Flight 93” movie. Apparently they are more concerned with telling the truth about this act of murder and courage than appeasing the politically correct HUTA’s. Kudos A&E!

By Scooter

January 30, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

Only the uninformed believed Bush when he said it was WMD’s that made him attack, invade, occupy and massacre Iraq. Most of us thought it was to steal Iraq’s oil, but we were only partly right.

Nice!

By Andy

January 30, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Here’s some more quotes from Midori’s highly credible evil oil source Ingmar Lee:

I’m lighting up a red-flag on some spy-screen down at N.S.A./F.B.I./Pentagon CentCom. Just by the bookmarks I’ve collected in my computer, I could well be slated for extraordinary rendition to some nearby dungeon of the Bush torture gulag.

I like this one, though-

America prints out the bucks that are required for the purchase of oil So I guess the next time I fill up I can show the attendant a picture of a fifty, right?

By The Grinch

January 30, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Candide…God bless you. Merry Christmas

Amen

By gadem

January 30, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

Andy, Poor Richard just made you look like a crackpot. He gave you valid points and resources to back up those claims and all you could do was come back with name calling and conservative talking points.

By jingo bell

January 30, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

I’m tired of all these pinko libs badmouthing my great country. I believe we should drill in ANWR and Florida. If people don’t want oil rigs and refineries, then they shouldn’t live where the oil is. Plain and simple.

The hippie bedwetters are starting to get on my nerves. If China or the Euro-pagans want my oil they’ll have to come and try to get it out of my F-350. Fat chance.

GOD BLESS AMERICA

By gadem

January 30, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

Jingo Bell, you sound like a xenophobe…

By Andy

January 30, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

gadem, jingo bell just made you look like a crackpot. He gave you valid points and resources to back up those claims and all you could do was come back with name calling and pinko talking points.

By gadem

January 30, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

OK Andy and Jingo Bell once the oil runs out in ANWR and Florida what are your plans then….I guess you will cross that bridge when you get to it…you know foresight could of helped alleviate all of the problems that we now face.

By Ricky

January 30, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

Seems today’s conversation seems to center around oil. In my opinion we have become to dependent on oil, I think we can all agree to that. I also think we should drill in ANWAR. I also like the idea of more rail systems. There are many things we can do to reduce our dependence on oil. We should explore all of them. Why limit ourselves?

By Andy

January 30, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

What were you pinko libs saying about deficit spending?:

DEAN UNDER FIRE FROM PARTY DEMS; NEARLY ALL CASH SPENT

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRREEEEEEEEGGGGGGYYYYYHHHH!!!!!

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

“Pinko” is a term associated with Senator Joseph Raymond McCarthy.

Any attempt at sympathy for those hearings is an attempt to subvert the liberty of America.

Anyone who continues to use it after knowing its origins is, in fact, a Pinko.

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Sadly, the Saddam trial has now turned into a “kangaroo court”. Defendants are being denied their choice of counsel, the chance to face their accusers, and access to the court proceedings. What is the point in calling it a trial? If we were going to do it this way it would have been much more effective to have just had a public lynching. At least that way the rest of the world would just see America as just a rabble of lawless thugs (but strong and determined ones) instead of the rabble of lawless, stupid and weak thugs they see now. Letting the Iraqis run this trial was like letting monkeys teach Quantum Physics. They just ain’t up to the job. This is just one more failure attributable to faulty pre-war (lack of) planning. We did not know our enemy before engaging him and now we pay the price, and pay, and pay, and pay, and pay, and pay…

By Andy

January 30, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

gadem: I’m talking about now, clown, not 100 years in the future. How old are you?

By jingo bell

January 30, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this

GD Gadem, I doubt the oil will run out. It’s just another liberal fantasy like evolution, global warming, and reproductive rights.

I would support conservation, however. Yep, conserve it for red blooded Americans.

THE RED, WHITE, AND BLUE

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

Liberals are not the only people with illogical unfounded fantasies.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

The United States is going to employ Algore againstthe enemy!:

CIA Expands Use of Drones in Terror War

By Ricky

January 30, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

Anti, would you not agree that in attempting to set up a legitimate government in Iraq that we need to let them try Saddam? The problem with the trial was the first judge who let these guys ramble on and make political speeches. The new judge at least seems to want to keep order.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

How’s it going ShadowMarch, you silly pinko?

AntiR: Would you like us to but into the affairs of the Iraqi government? Assume control of Saddam’s trial like the UN and Jimmy Carter would have done? You reckon these may be why things are so screwed up in the Middle East is because of pinko meddling? When are you libs going to quit harming these people, let them live their own lives and manage their own affairs?

By gadem

January 30, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

Yeah Andy…screw those that inherit the earth after us…man that christian conservatism at its best. Jingle Bell, anyone with a little bit of knowledge knows that natural resources are limited…But if you think that they are infinite then I will let you hold onto that fantasy.

By Brian Curtis

January 30, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

I see the rabid, screeching little fool Andy is still in full cry. At least he gets some attention here, he must not have any in real life.

Dependency on a single resource is stupid. Dependency on a limited one that’s non-renewable is even dumber. And keeping our entire society dependent on a single, non-renewable resource that’s largely located in hostile and unstable parts of the globe…

Well, the only thing dumber than a Texas oilman seriously suppporting such a thing… is the fools who vote for him.

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

Ricky: Unfortunately, to appear civilized to the rest of the world we do have to let the Iraqis be at least figureheads. The first judge may have been too lax but error on that side would have been emminently more desirable than the despotism the new judge is pursuing. In watching the proceedings yesterday, I saw only one defendant act in any manner that could be defined as disruptive to the proceedings. The rest was overkill with the new judge trying to show his gonads and this makes us look like despots. I have to wonder if this appearance of injustice is not being manufactured by our Iraqi “good buddies” over there as just another instance of subtle sabotage with smiles.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

gadem: Look, it isn’t my fault that you fall for your own propaganda. Pinkos like you were saying oil was going to run out in the 1970’s. Try something different.

How old are you?

By Ricky

January 30, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

Anti, I think the new judge is just trying to get control of the court room that got completely out of control. We shall see what happnes though

By Ricky

January 30, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis, you might get a more rational response to your post if you didn’t call people who disagree with you dumb every time you post.

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

Andy: Were we letting them “live their own lives and manage their own affairs” when we invaded their country?

By Andy

January 30, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

AntiR: Thet’re not our enemy now.

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Ricky, I’m with you there. Hope this was just a first day feather ruffling exercise but if this keeps up, the trial will be pointless as no one in the world will believe that the verdict was not decided beforehand by a controlled judiciary.

By Ricky

January 30, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

Anti, we all know what the verdict is going to be. Everyone in the world knows the verdict is going to be. All they can do is do their best to have the most fair trial possible and I think that is what they are trying to do

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

Andy: That’s what YOU think! A vast percentage of this population did not ask us there and did not themselves try to overthrow Hussein. SOMEbody is making all those IEDs and helping those who do! If they are not now our enemies they certainly are not our friends either (unless you believe in fairy tales that is). Hostile occupation of a country is never “friendly”.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Aron’s was this used record and CD store that I discovered 30 years ago. It was a quirky place, an audiophile heaven where there was never any telling what offbeat treasure you might find. But for my money, the demise of Aron’s is symptomatic of something larger: Mom and Pop are dying. Then somebody bought them out, knocked down the building and put up a Wal-Mart. Go to Realclear, look for this article: The Wal-Martification of America.

So “Lying” Leonard is going to blame the demise of a music store on Walmart.

Gee, I wonder if Apple had anything to do with it.

dis·hon·es·ty- n. pl. dis·hon·es·ties Lack of honesty or integrity; improbity. A dishonest act or statement.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

AntiR: Have you ever heard of Al Qaeda?

By candide

January 30, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Andy: your idea of purpose in life is to make money, go to church, screw those who think differently from, and burn a liberal or religious heretic or gay person from time to time.

I am glad you are so satisfied with your miserable life.

I think we should send all these gung-ho warmonders to Iraq to fight the insurgents. May the worse men win.

By candide

January 30, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Thank God, there is a place for warmongering, homophobic, fascistic Republicans when this life is over.

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

Andy: Al Qaeda doesn’t accept Iraqi recruits? The level of resistance indicates that much of it is civil in nature and not the work of outside agitators. Iraqi political rhetoric that I have heard recently has been largely ANTI-American. I haven’t heard of any crowds throwing rose petals into the streets to welcome our soldiers, have you? It’s not surprising; we invaded and occupied this country, we were not invited. If the majority of the Iraqi people wanted Hussein gone, THEY would have taken him out of power. THEY didn’t; WE did! To think that the Iraqi resistance is not primarily fueled by Iraqis is naive’.

By gadem

January 30, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

Anti, Andy believes that Dubya is acting as the right hand of God. Andy is the definition of a sheltered person that despises all that disagrees with him and does not want to educate himself on differing points of view. He would rather only read things that support his rhetoric.

By Scooter

January 30, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

“If the majority of the Iraqi people wanted Hussein gone, THEY would have taken him out of power.”

To think the majority (Shiites) had the guns and capabilities to overthrow a dictator (Sunni), who won elections by 95 percent and increased his majority with each election, is intelligence?

I always wondered why the UN wasn’t multi tasking and investigating for human rights violations while Saddam was making the weapons inspectors look inept.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

gadem: You mean Iraqi citizens like this?

By Andy

January 30, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

By candide

January 30, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Andy: your idea of purpose in life is to make money, go to church.

It sure is, thanks for noticing.

Your purpose in life is to cheer on the real religious fanatics, the ones that visit Christians in the middle of the night, the ones who really bury adulterers in the sand and crush their heads with stones, the ones who really push block walls over onto homosexuals. They are your heros. All the while you falsely accuse Christians of doing the things your heros do. You and AntiR and gadem. Sick. In. The. Head.

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

Scooter: I feel that no one can ever “free” another individual; they have to free themselves or live as slaves. If they don’t have the courage and committment to earn their freedom; they will not have the courage and committment to keep it, plain and simple! Iraqi citizens did not join with American soldiers “coming to their rescue” to march on Saddams’ palaces did they? Did any Iraqi citizens try to defect to America and join the US Army to fight their oppressors? Give me a break, Iraqis wanted American occupation as much as my cat likes a bath. At most, these people do not have a burning desire for freedom needed to win and hold a free society.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

If they don’t have the courage and committment to earn their freedom; they will not have the courage and committment to keep it, plain and simple!

See what I mean, these people get off on the oppression of others, it excites them. They would get slam off on themselves if Al Qaeda ran all of the Middle East.

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this

Sorry to break the news, Andy, but Al Qaeda is already all over the Middle East. Indonesia and near Asia, too! It really amazes me how people who rabidly rant about “welfare” here in this country, don’t seem to mind at all that the Iraqi people are being “shackled to the welfare wagon”. Let’s see, they can’t free themselves, they can’t fight for themselves, they can’t acquire a weapon, they can’t build their own schools, they can’t build their own electric grid, they can’t fix their roads, they can’t, they can’t, they can’t! Iraq is President Bush’s new “Great Society” with all the bells and flourishes of Lyndon Johnson. Maybe that will work out better for them than it did for us. Yeh, you definitely help people by “doing it all for them”; sure you do!!!

By getalife

January 30, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this

Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) said. “Are we saying we don’t trust anyone in our leadership? That makes the case that everybody in Washington is on the take, that we’re all corrupt.”

Yes, Mark. That is why they call you the coc.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this

AntiR: So instead of teaching them how to, we should enslave them to the religious rule of the Taliban, right? That will make you pinkos feel better?

By physicsDawg

January 30, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

“By AntiRadical: January 30, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this Scooter: I feel that no one can ever “freeâ€? another individual; they have to free themselves or live as slaves.”
A couple of points here: Most agree that ridding the South of Slavery was a good thing. I don’t see it happening on it’s own, or the Slaves having the means to free themselves! Yet this was done against the will of the people living in the region.
This example is a very extreme one, hovever.
How about a better example of a Government setup for the benefit of all citizens, most of who didn’t support it. I don’t suppose the Left was listening in their US History classes, if they even have such things anymore. Did you know the greatest Democracy on Earth (ours) was fought for by the minorty? The Revolutionary war was NOT fought with popular support. The majority of colonists wanted to stay British subjects. Do you think it was all a bad idea, and that the Revolutionists should have stayed home and shut up?
I suppose you might use the analogy of France not “invading” the Colonies, and declaring our freedom from Britan. The Colonists were much better equiped to take care of/fight for themselves, though. We were also very far from the Monarchy trying to keep hold of us. Saddam has been bruttally oppression his people for decades, and is ruling his own country, not trying to rule India, or South Africa, for example. Here this analogy does come close to the example of Slavery in the South. The good citizens of Iraq had as much chance of overthrowing Saddam as African Slaves did of the Confederacy, without Lincoln’s help.

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

No Andy, I’m saying sink or swim. If they really want the Taliban (or don’t really care), that is what they will have. You can’t “teach” anyone to have the desire for freedom. They either have it or they don’t. Kind of like courage and honor- can’t be “taught” but are inherent character traits.

By gadem

January 30, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this

Well Andy the Taliban is not in Iraq…but whatever you say.

By getalife

January 30, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

Way to go Dubya, you stated Iraqi welfare and cut money going to the Gulf Coast. Why do they hate America and love Iraq?

By physicsDawg

January 30, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Libs. Like we haven’t seen any desire for freedom from the Iraqis, They don’t love us and thank us or anything. But you have to ask someones who’s been there, cause you won’t read in the left-run Media.
gadem, I think the Taliban and Iraq are similar in this discussion. Both were oppressive Regimes, and most are very thankful for what we’ve done for them.

By Midori

January 30, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

well, well. what have we here. “That study found that supporters of President Bush and other conservatives had stronger self-admitted and implicit biases against blacks than liberals did.”

And you wonder why he only has what, 4% approval among them?

I know the story will be discounted as “liberal media tripe” and I will hailed as a lying Bush hater.

Some of you never do let facts get in the way.

By physicsDawg

January 30, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

Don’t ask “Where is this desire?” Here is just one of thousands of examples:
*Ask him if it was worth it. Ask him what is different. Ask him if he would go through it again, go ahead ask him, ask me, many of you have.

Now I answer you, I answer you on behalf of myself, and my countrymen. I dont care what your news tells you, what your television and newspapers say, this is how we feel. Despite all that has happened. Despite all the hurt, the pain, blood, sweat and tears. These two years have given us hope we never had.

Before March 20, 2003, we were in a dungeon. We did not see the light. Saddam Hussain was crushing Iraq’s spirit slowly, we longed for his end, but knew we could not challenge him, or his diabolical seed who would no doubt follow him and continue his generation of hell on Earth.*
Children don’t just run up to our soldiers because they might have candy in their pockets. They run up to us because they trust us, and are thankful. Just look for any soldiers account of what he or she has seen in person.

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

physicsDawg: American colonists did take up arms and fight for their freedom, it was not given to them. The Civil War was about state autonomy, not slavery but the fact that the “good guys” won is just another argument confirming the fact that when citizens (in the majority or not) really want freedom they will acquire arms, fight, and earn it. Blacks fought on both sides of the Civil War, ran away from onerous conditions to the North via the underground railroad, engaged in sabotage of confederate supplies, etc. The Iraqis have done nothing but sit and watch us do everything for them (they still can’t even get enough volunteers for their own police force). Your analogies to the American Revolution and the Civil War only confirm the fact that people cannot be given freedom, they have to earn it!

By Andy

January 30, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

That’s real sweet: Well Andy the Taliban is not in Iraq…but whatever you say.- I wonder if it has anything to do with us being there?

You clowns keep on cheerleading for Al Qaeda, it’s what you do best and nobody had to teach you how to do it. Or did they?

By Voice of Reason

January 30, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

PhysicsDawg - Some of us will tell you that we say both sides. We say the kids that loved and the adults that were dying to spit in our face.

By Pink Salmon

January 30, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this

Well howdy folks, the Pink Salmon missed lunch so I’ll just have to leave this little ode to all the little lefty’s out there:

You keep lyin’ When you oughta be truthin’ You keep losing When you oughta not bet You keep samin’ When you oughta be a’changin’ What’s right is right but You ain’t been right yet

These boots are made for walking And that’s just what they’ve done

Everyday these boots haved walked all over you

You keep playing Where you shouldn’t be playing And you keep thinking that You’ll never get burnt (ha) Well, I’ve just found me A brand new box of matches (Yeah) And what he knows You ain’t had time to learn

These boots are made for walking and That’s just what they’ve done Everyday these boots are Gonna walk all over you

Are you ready, boots? Start walkin’

Bow to the Salmon.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

Kerplunk, Salmon!

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this

Pink Salmon: Eat lunch. Your blood sugar is low.

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

If being a Pinko means fighting a Flag Burning McCarthyite then that’s what I am Andy.

I’ve watched this forum for days, and those who claim to love this country spit on the freedoms our Founding Fathers died to protect. You call yourselves patriots, but you support corruption, perpetuate lies, excuse dishonor and congratulate dishonesty.

If I must label myself a pinko hippy commie moonbat to stand with those who truly believe in honor, freedom and democracy then sign me up to be the first one that you and the rest of those who urinate on our Constitution want to ‘send back to France’.

I have hitherto considered myself a moderate. I have hitherto at least desired to affiliate myself with the Republican party, since while I was disgusted with their behavior, I admired the principles that they aspired to behold.

From now until the Cabal of Dishonor is deposed from the Party of Lincoln I am a Democrat. I will call myself a Liberal, since liberal means honest, patriotic and free. Liberal means not willing to believe in lies perpetuated by those who spout prepaid, preprepared drivel designated for backchannel slugs to spew without any foresight or analysis.

To question is divine and I excercise my divine right to question you and everything you stand for. This isn’t an argument Andy, since you are a fascist sypmathizer. I don’t get into arguments with those who come disarmed to the battle of wits.

Bring it on fanatics. You have formally lost me from your pitchforking flag burning ways. You call me a communist? Well I call you communists. I say that you are those who try to rewrite the dictionary. I accuse you of being the ones who will stain the blood of heroes for a war of falsehood.

You have lost me, and you have lost any sympathy I had to your lost warped cause. I believe in America. I believe in honor and in capitalism. Yes, the Democrats are screwed up. Yes, they have flaws. Yes, many of them support atheism by any other name as the defacto state religion of this country, but at least they acknowledge truth you pinko moonbat nazi inbred chaw sloppin tarrif believin’ war of economics and states rights only when it applies to me do as I say not as I do hypocritical dishonest ignoble savage dehumanizing slipsliding self justifying narcisistic idiotic buffoon.

Have a nice day.

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

If being a Pinko means fighting a Flag Burning McCarthyite then that’s what I am Andy.

I’ve watched this forum for days, and those who claim to love this country spit on the freedoms our Founding Fathers died to protect. You call yourselves patriots, but you support corruption, perpetuate lies, excuse dishonor and congratulate dishonesty.

If I must label myself a pinko hippy commie moonbat to stand with those who truly believe in honor, freedom and democracy then sign me up to be the first one that you and the rest of those who urinate on our Constitution want to ‘send back to France’.

I have hitherto considered myself a moderate. I have hitherto at least desired to affiliate myself with the Republican party, since while I was disgusted with their behavior, I admired the principles that they aspired to behold.

From now until the Cabal of Dishonor is deposed from the Party of Lincoln I am a Democrat. I will call myself a Liberal, since liberal means honest, patriotic and free. Liberal means not willing to believe in lies perpetuated by those who spout prepaid, preprepared drivel designated for backchannel slugs to spew without any foresight or analysis.

To question is divine and I excercise my divine right to question you and everything you stand for. This isn’t an argument Andy, since you are a fascist sypmathizer. I don’t get into arguments with those who come disarmed to the battle of wits.

Bring it on fanatics. You have formally lost me from your pitchforking flag burning ways. You call me a communist? Well I call you communists. I say that you are those who try to rewrite the dictionary. I accuse you of being the ones who will stain the blood of heroes for a war of falsehood.

You have lost me, and you have lost any sympathy I had to your lost warped cause. I believe in America. I believe in honor and in capitalism. Yes, the Democrats are screwed up. Yes, they have flaws. Yes, many of them support atheism by any other name as the defacto state religion of this country, but at least they acknowledge truth you pinko moonbat inbred chaw sloppin tarrif believin’ war of economics and states rights only when it applies to me do as I say not as I do hypocritical dishonest ignoble savage dehumanizing slipsliding self justifying narcisistic idiotic buffoon.

Have a nice day.

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Guess that was so confusing we needed to read it twice. Come on guy lighten up.

By physicsDawg

January 30, 2006 02:04 PM | Link to this

Shadow, I can appreciate the things you say define you. The problem is, they are not in the dictionary under “liberal.” I’ll let you know if I ever find a party/definition they do fit. I’m sure you’ll be interested…

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

Amen to that.

If we could only have someone who actually believes that as little government as possible is good, but that you need a certain minimum amount to maintain a healthy society, coupled with someone who actually has the guts to do what is right, and understands that Freedom of Religion does not mean Freedom From Religion we’d have it made.

Unfortunately, we have a choice between

*People who never saw a tax they didn’t like.

*People who give to corporations as if they were welfare mothers.

*People who believe in Social Darwinism and think that if you’re too poor to afford health care or basic things in life then you don’t deserve to live.

Fanatics run amuck in this country, but I’ve decided the fanatics I like the least are the pinko (Republican) communist (Neocon) fascist (Pro Bush) Double Talking Double Dealing War/Whore Mongering people that are currently running the country.

They want me to choose a side…I just did.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

ShadowMarch: Can you say that again?

No matter how many times you say it, it doesn’t excuse the fact that you are fighting for the side of oppression, tyranny, enslavement and religious persecution. The side that you stand up for hijacks airplanes, cuts the throats of the flight crews and then pilots them into buildings incinerating innocent office workers or forcing them to choose death from fire or a 90 story jump to the ground.

I don’t cheer for them like you do. I cheer for freedom.

By getalife

January 30, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

I cheer for those coc members who get indicted, snitch and wear a wire.

By candide

January 30, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this

It looks like Howard Stern in a recent magazine agrees with me that our solution in Iraq is Saddam Hussein as president:

Shows you that had we not invaded Iraq we all would be better off.

By gadem

January 30, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this

I guess they did not get him after all

It seems like everytime the Bush Administration touts something good that they are doing, it backfires in their face.

By physicsDawg

January 30, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this

I wonder if McCain & John Linder would run on a Reform Party platfrom. The Up/Down vote on earmarks and a flat tax would nearly eliminate the corruption. If we can get honnest politicians, who cares about foreign policy for a while. Lets worry about foreign policy in 2012. And let me explain about “getting honnest politicians.” We’ve got about a 10% chance of any given politician staying honnest. The Honnesty Policy doesn’t work, when honnesty is the whole issue. The only way to keep the scumbags in BOTH ruling parties honnest, is to Eliminate the possibility for failure.
One representative stated that Who else wouls know best where to put a bridge, stoplight, etc. in their state/district? He is very correct, in spite of himself. But what you do is go before your legislative body, and explain to them what you need, where you need it, and why that $200 million can’t be used to move every one on your D@MN island to the mainland! Let the people see what your doing, Let my representative explain to me why he approved such a ridiculous project to do ( X ). Turn on the lights and the Roachs scurry, folks!

By candide

January 30, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

But thanks to Bush and his evangelical supporters: we shall have an Iranian-dominated Iraq, we have lost over 2000 brave American soldiers, and we have wasted billions of dollars which we can ill afford. We have a deficit, no secure borders, the likelihood of jihadist action here, and a totally discredited role in the world. Hooray!

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

Andy,

If you think that I stand for the side that is in favor of oppression, then you are the sorriest pinko commie moonbat that ever posted on the internet.

You don’t know your flag from your hammer and sickle comrade. I’m not the pinko. You are. You can shout and call me a commie or a terrorist sympathizer all you want pinko moonbat commie, but you’re the one who spits on our soldiers in Iraq by refusing to hold those who waste their blood accountable. You are the one who defacates on the constitution by redirecting every moonbat talking point that the Heritage Foundation regurgitates through their neocon corporate fascist channels.

You are the one that refuses to acknowledge reality and YOU are the one who called me a Pinko…..so sign me up to be a patriotic liberal democrat instead of a moonback pinko liberal commie neocon.

Wait…did that sound confusing?

Maybe that’s cause I’m shifting definitions around to my convenience just like you do you neocon liberal commie mutant traitor supporting antipatriotic lunatic.

By physicsDawg

January 30, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

And it’s true because Howard says it is, candide? Once again he doesn’t fail to entertain.

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this

McCain isn’t going to join a third party because he isn’t STUPID. The people in this country only understand two parties.

The last time we had a serious third party candidate in this country we got Ross Perot and Ralph Nader.

I voted third party three times in a row until Ralph Nader ran a second time.

It will be a cold day in hell before I vote for a third party again. Not for 20 years and not until they fix the broken system we currently have.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

That’s ggod news, isn’t gadem, happy, happy days, plus he got to call Bush a butcher, bonus happiness!

By candide

January 30, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

The Washington Post must have slept late. It reports research showing Republicans are more anti-black than Democrats or Independents. Wow! Don’t they remember Nixon and Reagan and their Southern strategy? Tom Watson the Populist over one hundred years ago learned that the way to get power was to play on the anti-black feelings of poor whites. As Gov. Wallace said when he lost an early election: “No one is going to outn…….er me again.”

By candide

January 30, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

I have a dream: 1. That on Sunday mornings Americans will listen to Mozart and eat cheese blinis with caviar and all will be able to afford it. 2. That the pack of preachers, ministers, rabbis, imams, and priest will be thrown out of their jobs and be forced to earn an honest living for a change. 3. That no one in America will be ill without getting medical care and that the owners of capital will understand that they are not entitled to lord it over everyone else. 4. That the extreme patriotism which is really American fascism will recede to the inner trailer parks of South Carolina and Mississippi. 5. That joy will prevail and the Republican Party and Catholic and Baptist churches will disappear from view.

I HAVE A DREAM.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

Today the only known former member of the Klan to hold a federal office in the United States is Senator Robert Byrd, (DEMOCRAT-WV)

THE BUCK-NAKED BIGOTRY OF TED RALL, Ultra Pinko

By Midori

January 30, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

LOL. RW again makes Tom Tomorrow. Or is this Ricky?

By gadem

January 30, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this

Yeah I knew that without even wasting the money or time to do a study.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this

the owners of capital will understand that they are not entitled to lord it over everyone else.

so·cial·ism- n. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

Marx·ism- n. The political and economic philosophy of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in which the concept of class struggle plays a central role in understanding society’s allegedly inevitable development from bourgeois oppression under capitalism to a socialist and ultimately classless society.

See ya in the work camps….

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

That does not mean that we condemn the poor to a never ending lifestyle of disgrace and dishonor, nor that we do not give them decent healthcare. Nor do we suffer them to benefit from society without contributing to it.

Alas, the Neocon monkeys are too strong so their population must be culled to put the ideo-ecology back in harmony.

The Republican Party is “Hat #2” and will always exist, even under a different name.

I personally hope to see Catholic, Babtist, Pagan, Buhdist, Hindu, Jewish and every other religious denomination thrive, flourish and honor each other until the end of days. Even the Atheists. Maybe they can learn to stop ramming their religion down my throat like they insist that they everyone else is doing to them.

Thats all in the future….for now, I’m forced to ally myself with the atheists because its better to be the crazy religionist on the side of the Angels than the crazy Moonbat Neocon Pinko Commie Orwellian Dictionary Redefining People Who Believe that the War Of Southern Agression Was Fought Over Tarriffs.

And yes….it is the same issue, because if you believe that the South fought the civil war about Tarrifs, you’re going to believe anything and everything you’re drinking buddies hear on talk radio.

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

the owners of capital will understand that they are not entitled to lord it over everyone else.

so·cial·ism- n. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

**What…you mean like…..Faith Based Initiatives? You mean like….Corporate Welfare?…you mean like…No Bid contracts?

Commie.

Marx·ism- n. The political and economic philosophy of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in which the concept of class struggle plays a central role in understanding society’s allegedly inevitable development from bourgeois oppression under capitalism to a socialist and ultimately classless society.

**Every clock is right twice a day. Even broken ones.

See ya in the work camps….

**Work camps will be outsourced to India. The New World Order will simply recycle inappropriate citizens as Ethanol for SUVs.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

Not much is known about the 35-year-old founder of the Taliban, Mullah Mohammad Umar, a cleric who fought as a Mujahedeen. But his political aims are clear: He is determined to create his version of an Islamic Afghanistan. They decree amputations and executions for criminals, and impose severe restrictions on women. They also have banned television, which they see as a symbol of Western decadence.

The happy days, long since past, before the evil neocons came and imposed their facist persecution! Back to the trailer parks, noecons! (Did I get that right, kooks?)

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 03:06 PM | Link to this

I’m not a kook.

I’m a moonbat liberal democrat.

A kook would be someone who believed that making a deal with the Taliban to fight drugs even though they supported terrorism would be bad.

Oh. Wait.

Yup. I’m a Kook.

I make my own food.

That makes me a cook.

Is a Kook who prepares his own food a Kook Cook or a Kooc?

By Andy

January 30, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

Calm returns to Kabul as “rebels” impose strict rule Yea, “rebels!”

Rebels claimed that they executed Saturday two aides to former Afghan President Najibullah, including his personal secretary and bodyguard.

“Brothers, come to work,” the “rebels” broadcast over Radio Kabul in an appeal for normalcy.

Women are forbidden to report to work under the Taliban’s strict Islamic fundamentalist rules. They must stay at home, not be seen on the streets, and cover themselves with clothing from head to toe. And definitely not post communist manifestos onto cartoon boy’s blog. Finally I agree with the “rebels.”

Taliban preachers have called for closing all girls’ schools and have promised to execute anyone drinking alcohol or committing adultery, which would clean out all of the pinkos.

Yep, it would be better if they were still in power.

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

Yes, because leaders in the Republican Congress have never had affairs, do not drink alcohol, do not put Moonbat Tobacco Supporting Senators in charge of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee, Do Not Support Bridges To Nowhere, Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200 (I’m a moonbat remember?).

By Scooter

January 30, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this

I’m a chicken hawk.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

Somehow it doesn’t seem right that Obama, the only African-American in the Senate, is being pressured into going along with a tactic that earlier generations of Democrats used to prevent the passage of civil rights laws, the filibuster.

Because democrats are hypocrites, that’s why!

hypocrite n : a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he does not hold

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this

hpyocrite n: a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he does not hold.

Such as belief in the constitution.

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this

hypocrite n: a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he does not hold.

Such as belief in the constitution.

By physicsDawg

January 30, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

Candide, make up your mind. You want all those ministers, preachers, iman, etc to “earn an honest living for a change.” And yet those people who work for what they have, heaven and democrat forbid they should want to hang on to any of it. Then, you consider that “they are not entitled to lord it over everyone else.”

By The Grinch

January 30, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

Shadow, just hit the post button one time and wait.

By The Grinch

January 30, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

Candide, I don’t see you telling the welfare bunch to “earn an honest living for a change” typical Liberal idiot

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

Grinch,

I would love to, but unfortunately if I don’t fix the spelling immediately, someone will accuse me of being a Commie Mutant Pinko Traitor who sells crack cocain to Spotted Owls.

[I will just make a smaller comment though correcting in the future though rather than repost the whole thing. Sorry.]

By physicsDawg

January 30, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

re: things candide & Shadow said about Healthcare. I would have no problem with guaranteed health care, as long as it weren’t the universal, socialist type. The type that is a nightmare for citizens in France and Canada. I have a friend in France who’s told me all about it, and Canada’s is well known(notice people drive North for drugs, but nobody goes up for DRs or hospitals). Healthcare should be like unemployment. Yes, there are folks who can live on it, but it should pay less than any job you might find. We don’t need to give out insurance or medicaid. Hospitals already have to help anyone that is carried thru the door. Then they worry about if they can pay. We could do the same with Pharmacies. Instead of ruining the health care system for everyone, why doesn’t the govn’t just give the hospitals & pharms back enough of what they lose, to keep them afloat. There should be two types of care: 1) “Oh, you have your insurance card, great.” and, 2) “No insurance, oh, well we promise to keep you alive and your pain to a relative minimum.” None of this “Wellness” crap for those that can’t afford it on their own. The socialist medicare program should be unpleasant enough that not one will use it that doesn’t have to. That applies to Welfare. “You have 4 kids, and can’t afford to feed them, bring them to us when they start to look malnourished. We’ll pay to feed them a little. And you sure as he!! better not look healthy or well fed if you do.” Human decency, not to mention following Christ(sorry atheists), demands no less. But we will ruin our society if there isn’t a good deal of difference between basic healthcare, and personally-paid-for healthcare. You know why our Crime rate is so bad? They have cable TV! i.e. there’s not enough incentive to stay out. Same for “social services” The only way to prod people to do for themselves, is to make what they get for free not as good as what they have to work for.
I have no problem providing a safety net for my fellow humans, But using that “circus analogy,” the safety net keeps you from hitting the ground, not keeps you in an upper-row seat.

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

Heath Care.

Everyone has the magic bullet for it.

Here is what I know.

1-Government beuracracies do not function well if there are political appointees in them.
2-All US beuracracies have political appointees in them the vast majority of the time. 3-Health Care is too important to trust to the government. I do not want a pencil pusher deciding whether or not I live or die; be that a government beuracrat or an HMO beuracrat. 4-You get what you pay for. Which means if I am not the one paying for it, then I don’t get the service I deserve. 5-No one except super rich people can afford health care without insurance. 6-Every year, the insurance system that exists breaks down a little bit more, covers a little bit less, and pockets a little bit more. 7-Crazy lawyers steal money left and right through legal thuggery.

The only solution I can see that meets all of the above points is a private health care system in which the government comes down like the Hammer of God on any company that charges beyond a fix profit ratio. It should be treated like a REGULATED Public Utility.

Health is not an X-Box. People’s lives are not an I-Pod. Pure capitalism applied to my life or the life of those I care for…or ANYONE’S life is an abomination.

By physicsDawg

January 30, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

This has been fun. More ideas than normal. Even though the name calling has been just as bad, there have been intelligent comments mixed in. So, dems/libs, how about doing what repubs were accused of doing last election. register for the primaries, and get an honnest intelligent Republican nominated. I would offer to do the same, but Hillary is too scary, and the incumbent party has the best chance of getting re-elected (so far), so we can get a good republican in office. I still wouldn’t trade Bushie for Gore OR Kerry, but I don’t mind saying I am sorely disappointed! Hey, get Libberman to switch parties, and I’d put him on my ideal “joint” ticket. A man that goes to Iraq and reports on what good he sees being done is a good man in my book. As I said before, honnor and reform should be the platfrom of 2008. Save abortion and national security for 2012.

I’m out, like uh, honnest politicians, apparently.

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

I speak a language that is understood by those involved. When people speak to me with reason, I use reason. When people call me a Pinko, even after they know what it means, I unleash a can of worms upon their plauged pinko commie moonbat houses because that is the only liberal democrat neocon trashcan granola einstein random verbage that they understand.

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

Liberman believes that censoring video games is a good idea.

That is because making drugs illegal has worked so well.

Every time one of them gets up and says, “This game is bad, we should ban it” 10 million teenagers go out and buy it that day.

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

And for the record….

I find most recreational drugs ….of ill taste. I have no desire to use them (any of them), nor do I advocate their use. But I am tired of seeing laws half heartedly enforced or used as a tool of evil.

And I find Grand Theft Auto abhorent beyond imagining….but at some point parents have to actually DO THEIR JOBS.

By physicsDawg

January 30, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

It sounds like we’re not that far off. Capitalism gives better quality. I would LOVE Kaiser-Perm, or Blue cross-Blue Shield. But, my company is too cheap to spring for more than Aetna. They suck. BUT, they are better than the minimum I would expect from a place I couldn’t show an insurance card, or a gov’t subsidized or regulated insurance company. The Hammer of God/ Regulated Utility idea sounds like it might work, too.
I think it’s a shame people think the same should be done to gas stations that “overcharge.” This includes my wife, but the only way to keep demand in check, is with supply/cost. Not PURE Capitalism, but capitalism with a slight regulation. The problem with the US governmental structure, is the regulations keep growing over time, Like the mold in my refridgerator. We need the political equivalent of a box of baking soda, and an occaisional Clorox cleaning.

Now I’m really leaving…

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

PhysicsDawg, it does indeed seem like we share many ideas. In fact, the vast majority of the population shares many of these ideas but the pit vipers who want to shape things to their own selfish little world view steal power one brick at a time.

Honor thine opponent lest you lose your ability to compromise with him.

And yes, Andy, that does make me a H-y-pocrit, because I’ll sit here and call you moonbat commie pinko till the cows come home.

By candide

January 30, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

French and German health care is far better than ours and less expensive.

An excessive portion of our costs go to insurance companies and drug companies.

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this

Broken universal coverage IS better than Broken Pretend Some People coverage than what we have now.

We can do better.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

Proceed to a confirmation vote 72. Swiss filibuster 25. All that heat the Kos Kidz took what Durbin said was 37 votes for a filibuster to 25? Good work guys.

And the beat goes on!

By kimberly

January 30, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

GOT FASCISM? You will. Tomorrow. Then watch Der Fuhrer boast about it in prime time. Pop the popcorn! Woo-HOOO. Congratulations America. A President without checks and balances is a Dick-tator. You wanted it, YOU GOT IT!

Once again, Congratulations! Praise the… whatever it is you people praise these days.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this

Well, thank you Kimberly. I’m hosting a State of the Facist Union and an Alito Confirmation Combination Throwdown and we will be very much be into the popcorn and perhaps a copious amount of drinkage also. You are more than welcome to stop by and partake in the festivities, considering it is going to be at your expense anyway.

Welcome Home Supreme Court!

By Mike Parker

January 30, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Kimberly,

Did andy just invite you to a rape party?

By kimberly

January 30, 2006 06:17 PM | Link to this

Aww thanks, Andy. You’re too sweet. Thanks, but I don’t “throw down” that way, so I hope you’ll excuse my absence.

Sincerely, though. It looks like you, and people who believe and behave as you do, good honest caring folk, will soon “own” ALL of America… or the parts that [used to] matter anyway. The voices of me and my ilk will fade and die in our virtual or literal prisons. You’ll be left with the dictatorial, theocratic, survival-of-the-fittest-in-the-holy-name-of-god UTOPIA you imagined.

It’s a magical moment, Dear. I hope you receive and enjoy ALL you so richly deserve. Have FUN with that!

By ShadowMarch

January 30, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

Yeah for about 2.7 seconds until they come after the next people on their list….

By kimberly

January 30, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this

Shhhh…. Shadow, don’t spoil it for them! Be GRACIOUS. It’s OVER. Besides, I want to see the look of surprise on their faces when they take it up the @$$ too.

By Andy

January 30, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

Oh, Kimberly, don’t take it so bad. It’s not like you’re going to get fitted for any new clothes or anything. We’re not near as mean as them Al Qaeda dudes you cheer for are. You guys keep fighting the wrong enemy, we’ll keep celebrating our victories.

Yea, Conservatives!

By kimberly

January 30, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

Oh no, Andy, you have me all wrong. I’m going to try REAL HARD to fit in from now on. In fact, I’ll rejoice WITH you when some poor, I mean LUCKY girl is forced to bear your fruit following one of your rape parties. You have a CHANCE now. Yay!

By getalife

January 30, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

Just think about all the criminals getting ready to be on all media outlets when the get their day in court.

Remember Duke crying like the Christian TV evangelists caught with hookers.

By AntiRadical

January 30, 2006 06:59 PM | Link to this

Everybody always misses the only real qualifiers that define the issue of socialized vs capitalized medicine, life expectancy and infant mortality. Socialized medicine countries (with capitalized economies, of course) across the board have particularly better stats than the USA in these areas (WHO & CIA Facts good souces for data). Not everyone in the US lives in the burbs; people (especially children) that live in the lower rungs often, unsurprisingly, get sick and die.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

kimberly,

I has posted about the filibuster on my blog here. After reading your response I’ve included your thoughtful words.

By physicsDawg

January 30, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this

Sorry, I know were talking Supreme Court and celebrations now, but I gotta call BS on candide: French and German health care is far better than ours and less expensive.
I will state for the record that I have Zero knowledge of German Healthcare (Is that “take two Pints, and call me in the morning?”) But assuming candide is 100% right on Deutch-Care, (s)he is still half-@ssed, because I have first person accounts of France’s, and you’re 100% wrong on it.
And that’s just on the * *service **. Don’t talk less expensive, because you know how much of their money that they work for that they actually see? You know why all those “youths” rioted a while back? Cause they didn’t have anything better to do! Sitting on your butt pays almost as good as working hard over there. That’s unemployment issues, but that goes hand in hand with the Healthcare. Socialism is Socialism, folks. And it don’t smell too good when you’re not on the other side of the ocean from it…

By Andy

January 30, 2006 08:19 PM | Link to this

Or we could consider a radical alternative: energy prices are high because Americans object to every possible source of energy known to mankind. Energy, it seems, is icky. Not so icky that we want to use less of it, mind you. But icky enough that we don’t want to make it ourselves. Instead, we fantasize about utopian energy sources of “the future,� and pay through the nose today for limited supplies of foreign energy that originate in the most backward, unstable, and faraway places imaginable.

Gosh, I wonder where I heard that said before?

A coal-fueled power plant emits more radiation than a nuclear power plant (due to uranium ore in the coal), but such facts do not matter in a society that draws its knowledge of nuclear physics from “The China Syndrome� and “The Incredible Hulk.�

But America will not pursue nuclear energy, any more than it will drill for its own oil. Energy is bad. Instead we will continue to live in a fantasy world in which we do not develop our own oil, coal, gas, hydropower, wind power or nuclear and instead dream about hydrogen and ethanol and solar because we know they are too far off to require us to make real decisions anytime soon. We will continue to restrict supply and then complain about price.

I have no idea what he means by “we.”

By Objective Observer

January 30, 2006 08:20 PM | Link to this

physicsDawg: First-hand account here, as well. Minister from England took temporary assignment here in the U.S., developed heart problems, cancer. Was amazed at the difference between our health care and the U.K.’s. Returned to England, to tie up loose ends, and will be permanently locating in the U.S. for the health care alone.

Stated that he would have died waiting to be seen by a doctor in the U.K.

There is room for improvement here, though.

By Poor Richard

February 2, 2006 08:24 PM | Link to this

Andy I was going through your posts from the other day and I noticed that you didnt have the testicular fortitude to actually respond to the thrashing I gave you. I know theres alot of you folks out there who enjoy it when Andy has his -ss handed to him so heres an encore-

First of all ANWR will take at least 10 years to implement and cost tax payers billions. It also has about enough oil to last us for a year- this link to the Energy Information Administration has the official estimates. be sure and read the part about how the arctic drilling is going to reduce our foreign oil needs by 2% in 10 years 5% in 15 and then its going to start running out of oil.

Heres a link to info about some of the 200 hundred species of animals that make the ANWR their home, many of which are endangered so your contention that “God made ANWR an environmental catastrophe� is a load of crap

Finally if your looking for a source of oil in North America look no further than the oil sands of Canada which has hundreds of times the amount of oil of ANWR and no terrorist threat, not to metion the fact that we could start recieving that oil next week instead of next decade and it will reduce our dependence on middle east oil a h-ll of a lot more than 2%

on to the other bullsh-t you wrote-

As for why ovonic solar energy isnt all over the news- it is for the same reason that you dont know anything about organics- the corporations that make billions off of oil sales and pesticide ridden foods are the ones that own the media outlets. Despite the concerted efforts of people like your beloved President and his oil buddies more and more people are finding out about these sustainable industries through word of mouth and they continue to see steady growth despite the oil lobby’s attempts to stupefy you.

Stanford Ovshinsky’s Solar panels are going to put the cost of solar energy below that of coal in the next 5 or 6 years even though the many people in the energy establishment want to silence him.

As for the solid hydrogen fuel system- it continues to be tested and refined and if the government put half the money into that that they did into research for oil companies (52 billion dollars in ‘research’ this year that the oil companies should have payed for themselves)- with this kind off commitment to our future we could be driving hydrogen cars in 10 years or less- but the politicians are in bed with the oil companies.

This brings up the economy and the fact that America has for many years prospered by remaining at the forefront of technology. However, in recent years all of the other indutsrialized nations have poured billions into such technologies while oil politicians have made sure such funds remain in the greedy fists of oil barons who are making more and more off of our misfortune.

As for nuclear energy not being a threat [you should read about this little place in russia called Chernobyl.] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_accident) As something like 2 million people were irradiated in the 3 mile island incident- had this been as bad as Chernobyl thousands would have perished. Not to mention the terroists in the mid east who like to fly planes into buildings and reak havok (remember them?)cooling towers are easy to find and are a prime terror target (especially when you consider that with the same support we could all have solar pannels on our houses and never need power plants again in the same amount of time it takes to implement them a new neuclear plant.

One more thing- I live near a coal plant- so dont preach to me about how much I want to poison everyone by burning coal- I dont. But unlike you I point to realistic alternatives rather than the plan that will make Halliburton the most money. I have been very cordial to you even though you are an ignorant pr-ck so if you want come here and suggest that I want to help terrorists and hurt my country because I dont agree with your moronic ideas then you can go strait to h-ll.

Sincearly

Poor Richard

Well its right there in black and white Andy. I cleaned your clock and you still havent put up a fight. I’ve shown everyone who’s interested in the facts that the Oil company devised energy plans you keep spouting are a load of crap. Either put up a real debate of shut the h-ll up