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By getalife
January 19, 2006 08:50 PM | Link to this
Good one Mike. He said he was caught up in the moment with that chocolate comment. Probably drunk.
By mike
January 19, 2006 09:08 PM | Link to this
This would almost be funny if Nagin had not have actually said:
“How do you make chocolate?” he asked a reporter. “You take dark chocolate, you mix it with white milk and it becomes a delicious drink.”
Does Luckovich even keep up with the news? Maybe his failure to do so explains the ignorant “statements” made by silly drawings.
By RW-(the original)
January 19, 2006 09:11 PM | Link to this
ml,
Wouldn’t this have been more timely before the school bus commander apologized?
It was even a real one, not one of those….if I offended anybdy…kinds.
By finch
January 19, 2006 09:55 PM | Link to this
mike, Nagin’s “how to make chocolate” excuse was (literally) a day late and a dollar short. If had any dreams of political advancement, his original comment popped it. Bad form.
Now, we true Americans can be disingenuous, and lie like the cons did when they insisted “mean” Jean Schmidt really didn’t call war hero John Murtha a coward.
Or we can take the high road and admit that Nagin said what he did.
As it is, Luckovich’s cartoon is weak.
By RW-(the original)
January 19, 2006 10:01 PM | Link to this
The Washington Post could take a lesson from this blog. It got really nasty here in the early days, but a little bit of filtering and some patience has paid off nicely.
By Objective Observer
January 19, 2006 10:10 PM | Link to this
This one is funny! But for R.W.’s benefit, once again Mike you have done a tremendous job making an unfortunate mishap on Mayor Nagin’s part into a thought-provoking commentary. Thank you, I love your cartoons.
By Objective Observer
January 19, 2006 10:14 PM | Link to this
R.W.: Now you know good and well that there has never been anything filthy on this blog.
By finch
January 19, 2006 10:17 PM | Link to this
RW,
Haven’t you been wondering, even a tiny bit, what kind of comments that Washington Post blog got before it was shut down??
Here ya go!
Very interesting. And colorful. (credit DU for this)
By RW-(the original)
January 19, 2006 10:29 PM | Link to this
finch,
I read from the top down for awhile and then switched and went from the bottom up, so far I haven’t seen anything more than a whiny moonbat swarm. Do the permalinks still work? If so maybe you could get us into the right neighborhood.
By RW-(the original)
January 19, 2006 10:33 PM | Link to this
Objective Observer,
Do I detect a wee bit of sarcasm at 10:10?
…and mike at 9:08 has a good point, what Nagin actually said is easily as funny as what ml attributed to him.
By Ricky
January 19, 2006 10:45 PM | Link to this
Did anyone notice that Osama used several of the Dems talking points in his recorded message today? He said “the wise ones know you can’t win in Iraq.(Howard Dean) Osama then said “US soldiers are terrorizing Iraqi civilians”(John Kerry). He even mentioned Bush’s aircraft carrier speech. And all of you laughed when people said that making comments like those hurts our cause. I am not saying Dems are evil like Osama or comparable to him, I am just pointing out that our enemies do pay attention to what is going on over here
By RW-(the original)
January 19, 2006 10:50 PM | Link to this
This one is more topical
but since ml is always a few days late
this older one fits.
By Washington State
January 19, 2006 10:57 PM | Link to this
Will they never learn: “In the battle of succession to DeLay, DeLayism will triumph. The leading candidate for majority leader, Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri, is so close to lobbyists that he left his wife to marry the lobbyist for Altria, the company that owns Philip Morris. In 2002, he inserted a provision into a homeland security bill to increase the penalties for selling stolen cigarettes. Blunt’s son happens to be a lobbyist; his other son is the Republican governor of Missouri. He stands for nothing but business as usual. His challenger, Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, runs a group called the K Street Cabinet. In 1995, on the floor of the House, Boehner handed out checks from tobacco lobbyists to Republican members, something he says he regrets.”
By kimberly
January 19, 2006 11:02 PM | Link to this
Ricky, Did you ever notice that whenever Der Dubya starts going on the ropes, approval wise that is, ol’ buddy Osama (“The Tree”) Bin Hidin’ pops out with another statement or video that almost makes you wanna go, “Hey, maybe our President isn’t such a maroon afterall…”
Funny how he’s reading, as you say, right from the Dem talking point list. It’s almost as if ol’ Karl (“that blow-up doll’s got a leak in it”) Rove FAXED it right to the bat-cave this morning, isn’t it?
And just when the righties were running out of stuff to shovel into the “We do it all for YOU…. so sit down and shut up” engine of PR wizardry. Hmmm…
By RW-(the original)
January 19, 2006 11:10 PM | Link to this
kimberly,
Funny, Michelle was just discussing you and yours.
By finch
January 19, 2006 11:18 PM | Link to this
RW,
That’s what I found so funny about the WashPost rants. The whining! Well, at least I thought it was funny…
Ricky,
I was amused at Osama’s non-attributed American quotes. He also wildly mis-stated US survey results. Looney tune.
By Scooter
January 19, 2006 11:18 PM | Link to this
Do the fish bite in chocolate cities?
By RW-(the original)
January 19, 2006 11:21 PM | Link to this
finch,
That’s what I thought, too. So why do you think they killed the posting?
I’ve seen much worse here and, for the most part, we enjoy it!
By kimberly
January 19, 2006 11:22 PM | Link to this
Haha! Tin foil hats. Haha! Well you know, I can see poking fun…. you know, if this hadn’t also happened during election week ‘04. It’s nice when you have buddies that’ll step up to the plate for ya.
Oh, or am I supposed to be all panicked today about bird flu “Squawk!” How’s that TamiFlu stock doin’ there, Rummy?
By Pink Salmon
January 19, 2006 11:39 PM | Link to this
No Scooter, but they do in Seattle:
I escaped from the Northwest to feed on the far-left, I’m the incredible, the inedible Pink Salmon. As I’ve come from a long way, I know that I’ve few days, so I must tell the truth to you all. I’m slippery and slimy and no one can find me, I’m the glorious, notorious, Pink Salmon!
Kerplunk
By finch
January 19, 2006 11:41 PM | Link to this
RW,
I guess they take themselves WAY too seriously at the WP.
And on a completely unrelated topic, check out this late breaking GENUINE news flash!:
“Hamas is paying a spin doctor $180,000 (£100,000) to persuade Europeans and Americans that it is not a group of religious fanatics who relish suicide bombings and hate Jews.”
I could not ever make this up!
By RW-(the original)
January 19, 2006 11:49 PM | Link to this
finch,
Little Green Footballs has had a {girls of Hamas](http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=18894TheGirlsofHamas&only) thread up most of the day.
By RW-(the original)
January 19, 2006 11:51 PM | Link to this
Damn left wing conspiracy computer!
finch,
Little Green Footballs has had a girls of Hamas thread up most of the day
By finch
January 19, 2006 11:51 PM | Link to this
RW,
I think I’m in love! Not.
By RW-(the original)
January 19, 2006 11:58 PM | Link to this
Pink Salmon,
Well if you’re inedible I guess I can close this page.
Then again, wouldn’t any tasty delight try to play that ruse?
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 12:04 AM | Link to this
Washington State,
Apparently you aren’t alone in your opinion of Roy Blunt.
By Pink Salmon
January 20, 2006 12:07 AM | Link to this
The Salmon is sleepy so now it must rest it’s eyes- It may come back tomorrow when lefties get hollow, but ‘till tomorrow adios mi amigos!
Kerplunk
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 12:13 AM | Link to this
hmmm….A Spanish Mackerel perhaps.
By Scott
January 20, 2006 12:55 AM | Link to this
By the way, DONN, allow me to add that the Repubs on this blog, as Repubs everywhere, attempt to talk tough and otherwise look ridiculous simply because they somehow imagine it makes them look or feel less grossly inferior than they really are. These truths remain self-evident.
By Bill
January 20, 2006 12:58 AM | Link to this
“You’re doing a heckuva job, Brownie!”
- BushieBy Bill
January 20, 2006 01:05 AM | Link to this
Pink Salmon. Helluva name, whatever you are! But let’s not have none ah thet spick talk. We’ve been watching…”you people.”
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 01:44 AM | Link to this
Scott,
We welcome the debate. As John F’ing Kerry might say: BRING IT ON!
It would be nice if you guys could stay and fight it out once in a while.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 04:46 AM | Link to this
Minority Leader Reid Apologizes to GOP
WASHINGTON — Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid on Thursday apologized to 33 Republican senators singled out for ethics criticism in a report from his office titled “Republican Abuse of Power.”
“Researching, compiling and distributing what amounts to nothing more than a campaign ad on the taxpayers dime raises serious ethical questions,” said Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, one of the lawmakers named.
He didn’t do it, he didn’t do it, he didn’t DO IT!
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:28 AM | Link to this
finch, idiot:
Still Morning in America
Reaganomics, 25 years later.
Friday, January 20, 2006 12:01 a.m. EST
Twenty-five years ago today, Ronald Reagan was inaugurated as the 40th President of the United States promising less intrusive government, lower tax rates and victory over communism. On that same day, the American hostages in Iran were freed after 444 days of captivity. If the story of history is one long and arduous march toward freedom, this was a momentous day well worth commemorating.
The timing of your history revisions are impeccable.
By candide
January 20, 2006 06:59 AM | Link to this
I frankly am tired of race.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 07:02 AM | Link to this
By BRIAN McGUIRE - Staff Reporter of the Sun January 20, 2006
WASHINGTON - Republican senators are puzzling over how to ensure full release of a long-awaited independent counsel’s report that alleges obstruction at the highest levels of the Clinton administration but which omits by court order a large narrative chunk that some conservatives think could be damaging to the former first lady, Senator Clinton.
“After a thorough reading of the report, it would not be unreasonable to conclude, as I have, that there was a cover-up at high levels of our government, and it appears to have been substantial and coordinated,” Mr. Barrett’s office said in a statement issued with the report.
The culture of coordination?
And this is without the 120 pages the democrats are trying to cover up.
She didn’t do it, she didn’t do it, she didn’t DO IT!
By Andy
January 20, 2006 07:20 AM | Link to this
Hey, somebody does agree with the pinkos. Go figure:
The cave dwelling terrorist’s commentary on American politics could have been written by Howard Dean. He notes President Bush’s declining poll numbers and takes solace because it proves “an overwhelming majority of you want the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq.” That’ll go down just great with the Democrats who have called for timelines and withdrawal while arguing there is no connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda. It certainly seems that Mr. bin Laden doesn’t buy the notion that one can support winning the war and immediate withdrawal from Iraq at the same time.
By candide
January 20, 2006 07:21 AM | Link to this
Reagan got the hostages back by double-dealing with the Iranian terrorists. He did not bring down the Soviet Union, it collapsed of itself. He did very little that was successsful and much that was illegal. All this Morning in America nostalgia exists only because we need heroes and have no chance of viewing Bush 43 as anything but a disaster. It is indeed hard to find a president one can be proud of.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 07:37 AM | Link to this
candide, nice revisionist history of the Reagan Presidency. I know it drives you liberals crazy that he was so popular but you don’t have to denegrate the man. He did a lot of great things for this country. Why do you think the Soviet Union collapsed? Because Reagan spent them into the ground through the arms race. Don’t be a hater.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 07:40 AM | Link to this
So there has been a lot of talk about Congressmen being investigated for corruption in the wake of this lobbying scandal. Some of the Dems(Dean, Reid, etc) say that no Dems are involved in any kind of corruption, but William Jefferson(D-LA) is under investigation for taking bribes and one of his former aides has turned states evidence against him.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this
And they say Republicans are the ones that cheat on elections: Lawyers defending five local Democratic activists from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, against charges that the men slashed the tires of 25 Republican vehicles before last year’s presidential election say their clients are taking the fall for professional political operatives who they say were leading a nationwide dirty tricks campaign to defeat President Bush. National party organizers first denied any knowledge of the event, then pinned the blame for the crime on five young volunteers. But defense attorneys say the imported operatives were the real culprits and blamed the locals to save their political careers. The Democratic Party denies there was a conspiracy.
By Voice of Reason
January 20, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this
Nice Ricky, next time post the rest of the story.
“The Democratic Party denies there was a conspiracy and even Wisconsin’s GOP chairman tells the Chicago Tribune that the theory “doesn’t add up.”
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 08:21 AM | Link to this
VoR, I don’t care if it was a conspiracy or not. There are people who post on here all the time about how the Rep party steals elections and they act like Dems are pure as the driven snow. Just wanted to show the Dems do what they accuse Reps of.
By Voice of Reason
January 20, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this
Ricky, whatever dude. You try to come off as non-biased, but if you really were, you wouldn’t have excluded the last part of the last sentence.
You know as well as I do, that the last part changes the whole tone of the story. Besides, how does slashing tires compare to stealing elections and campaign fraud. Nice stretch though!
By gttim
January 20, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this
I advise everybody to go read the Little GReen Footballs website “By RW-(the original)” linked to. SPend a little time on the dicussion forum. That way you can see what a far rightwing, hate filled fanatic he and others posting here really are. Go read some of that righty conservative posting. It is hilarious, but also scary that people like By RW-(the original)are stupid enough to believe it. Then try to guess how many of these guys are just cared little closet queens. Go read! It is like hitting c** roached with light.
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 08:46 AM | Link to this
If you can’t debate the issues try to generalize the opponents, right gttim?
Perhaps you need to stop hitting roaches.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this
gttim: Nice try- Daily Kos: Cheney to Constitution: ‘Go f%%k yourself.’
I believe you’re a regular poster at Kos, aren’t you?
by gttim
Sun Dec 12, 2004 at 09:00:26 AM PDT
The blatant bias of this article about the march against gay marriage by one of Atlanta’s black mega churches just makes me sick, but the realization of what is happenning makes me sicker.
Hy·poc·ri·sy- noun- a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion.
Why you stalking Churches now, dude?
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this
Somebody is going to get you with a giant nuanced post..
By getalife
January 20, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this
Play nice or ml will shut down the blog
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this
Wrong link, this would be more fitting of the feeling one gets when fiiishing the first paragraph of such a post.
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this
getalife, I’ve gotten it now. I posted before I saw your warning.
I’m ten times more crass in person but not hatefull crass. I “poke at people” but I only “poke” at myself verbally.
By candide
January 20, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this
Reagan had Alzheimer most of the time he was president. Nancy and various aides ran the country.
I sat next to Reagan when he was governor at a Univ. of California meeting and even then I could tell he didn’t know much about where he was.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this
candide, I know you probably hate that Reagan is immensely popular in the country, but there is no reason to denegrate the man. You have no proof that he had Alzheimer’s while he was in office and you are just trying to make someone you don’t lile look bad.
By Midori
January 20, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this
Kimberly,
you may be on to something there………
[Crying Wolf
Each time a new videotape from Osama bin Laden emerges, as one did yesterday, it ends up embarrassing the Bush Administration because the Administration has adopted a tactic of planting stories in the media that bin Laden is dead, which are then conclusively disproven each time a new tape appears. Every since 9/11, the Administration has repeatedly whipped up speculation that Osama bin Laden is dead in order to induce the public into becoming distracted (and scared) by the Evil Ones, and to give the appearance that Commander-in-Chief George Bush is protecting us all by slaying the Big Bad Wolf.](http://www.crooksandliars.com/stories/2006/01/19/cryingWolf.html)
By Voice of Reason
January 20, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this
Kind of like you did Ricky when you excluded the last few words of a sentence. lol. But I digress.
By Eric
January 20, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this
You do a great job, Mike. Some weak minded folks will never like what you do. Like the Bush supporters who love that weasel unconditionally. They’ve made a conscious decision to unconditionallly hate what you do. They’re irrelevant. You just keep on keeping on. You’re a great asset to our country.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this
Midori(candide), good to see both of you back. Got to love the conspiracy theories right. The big bad Republicans are all evil and plant stories aobut Osama just to scare us Americans. It is all for political gain. And they let the terrorist blow up the WTC so that we could go to war. How could we all be so dumb? How could 51 million Americans be that stupid? Oh the horror of it all
By Midori
January 20, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this
Ricky,
take two aspirin and call me in the morning.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this
VOR, I told you why I left that out. I don’t really think the DNC had anything to do with it, to me that was irrelevant. I was just pointing out the hyprocrisy of some on here. Eric, your right the 51 million people who voted for Bush are irrevelant.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this
Daily Kos: Kate O’Beirne Can Drop Dead.
Go on over there. Get yourself an Amazon account if you don’t have one and write yourself a review of Ms. O’Beirne’s book. You can sign your review with an Amazon ‘pen name’ if you don’t want to be spammed with conservative hate-dreck. The goal is to ensure that Ms. O’Beirne’s book has a one star rating so no one will go out and buy it who would not have already done so.
Censor Katie O’Beirne’s book, censor the Bible, censor the discussion of Creationism, censor little green footballs blog…..
The party of diversity, eh?
By Midori
January 20, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this
On another note: are you trying to say that Candide and I are the same person?
Who is spouting “looney” conspiracy theories now?
BTW — if you paid any attention to the news yesterday, Bush’s “crying wolf” tactics don’t work anymore.
only in your world.
By Steve SC
January 20, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this
Whatever the topic of ml’s toon, this blog soon degenerates into a match between Bush-lovers and Bush-haters. Generally, I think the shouting starts after about 25 posts. Sigh …
By Midori
January 20, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this
Hey Andy - thanks for the tip!!!
I just happen to have an Amazon account!!!
By Andy
January 20, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this
“I’ve never seen such a cynical attempt by liberals to torpedo a book’s Amazon ratings,” Kate’s editor at Sentinel, Bernadette Malone, told National Review Online earlier this week. “It’s particularly galling since hardly any of the reviewers seem to have even bought or read the book.” Unfortunately, it may be a trend in the making, however. By late Thursday, I had received book-smearing reports involving Mark Levin’s Men in Black on activist judges and Fred Barnes’s upcoming Rebel-in-Chief on President George W. Bush, too.
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this
It’s scary that Eric sees free citizens as assets to their country. I would think the country is an asset of theirs. Is that the difference between conservatives and liberals? Will this be one of ml’s toons?
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this
Midori(candide), several people on here have noticed that you and “candide” only post when the other is here. it just seems odd to us. Bush is crying wolf because Osama released a tape? How does that work?
By Midori
January 20, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven’t heard much from him. And I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.
By AntiRadical
January 20, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
Let’s all chip in to buy Nagle and Robertson a couple of ponies and a ticket to Brokeback Mountain. Maybe instead sticking their feet in their mouths, they can stick their….
By Midori
January 20, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this
So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I’m more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did.
By Midori
January 20, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this
Several people have noticed that you pull facts out of your rear, too.k
Your point???
By Midori
January 20, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this
Ricky,
putting Candide’s name in parenthesis beside mine does not, in itself, make us one in the same.
I’m getting such a kick out of this.
Ricky “Mr. Know-it-all” is going to show everyone he “cracked” a mystery.
Do you hang out with Scooby Doo, too?
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this
Midori, you linked to this ladies book yesterday and I was curious if you read her? She has a wonderful story that should inspire many youths to rise out of the social despair they find themselves in.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this
midori, you asked why I thought you and candide are the same person, so I told you. That was my point. And just because you disagree with me, doesn’t mean I make facts up. Thanks for trying though.
By AntiRadical
January 20, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this
If New Orleans is to be the “Chocolate” city, what will we call Hollywood, “Tutti Frutti”? Let’s see, ATL can be “Heavenly Hash”, Chicago certainly is a “Blizzard”, and Washington DC must be the great “Double-Dipper” in light of the recent assertions of graft.
America as confectionary. How sweet it is!
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this
“Scooby Dooby Doo”!.
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this
I would call D.C. devils food cake.
By AntiRadical
January 20, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this
Good one scooter! Wish I’d thought of it.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this
D.C. new cereal “Captain Corruption”.
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this
Thanks AR, its not copyrighted so take it.
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this
California the Nutty Buddy Bar or the nut log?
By getalife
January 20, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this
Frosted Flakes.
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this
getalife, why not Count Taxyalot?
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
Yeah I like Forsted Flakes.
By Redneck
January 20, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
Candide, re your post about sitting next to Reagan at a college function and his not conversing with you. Have you ever considered that the realized that you were an idiot and that he did not want to talk to you?
By getalife
January 20, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this
Almond Joy, sometimes you feel like a wingnut, sometimes you don’t.
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this
O.K., I’m only using the left side of my brain and I need to go to the county tax office today, so Im out. May the government gods go easy on me today.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
Good luck Scooter.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
Snickers, pack full of wingnuts.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this
This Blessed anniversary of Ronald Reagan’s ascendancy to power seems to have made the pinkos quite restless. We must remember that the liberal yardstick of presidential greatness is somewhat different from that which a Conservative would use. For instance, their last “leader,” who they constantly laud over and wouldn’t they love to shove his “wife” down out throats, was a pervert who lurked within the Oval Office with his pants around his ankles waiting for the next intern to fall in his clutches, while his attorney general was out slaughtering pregnant women and gassing and burning whole compounds full of innocent children. Reagan simply failed to measure up to these lofty standards in the eyes of the pinkos.
By Midori
January 20, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this
Andy - I find it laughable that all you have to hold up as “perfection” is a brain dead jackass with a faulty memory.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this
Midori, you posts are laughable. never any facts, just name calling about a President that is constantly voted the best pres in the last 50 yrs
By Midori
January 20, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
Another thought - when will you guys get over Bill Clinton, and get your nose out of his crotch?
when???
WHEN???
By Midori
January 20, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this
Ricky,
not as laughable as you with that nifty cravat tied around your neck.
Tres chic!!!!
Is your code word, “Freddie”?
How’s Scrappy Doo doing?
By Andy
January 20, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this
Editor’s Note: a new book just out “Reagan In His Own Hand” proves that Reagan was one of the most intelligent men to have served in the Oval Office. Original documents prove Reagan authored many of his speeches, columns and radio commentaries. Get this book and help put it in every library in America by Clicking here.
It just amazes me that a pinko will believe, without question, absolutely everything the lib media tells them.
By Midori
January 20, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this
Ricky,
Velma says “Hi”
By finch
January 20, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
Andy-pie, A Wall Street editorial singing the praises of Ronald Reagan, who was at best an adequate President, is like Rolling Stone magazine condemning the GOP for cutting taxes for the wealthy, cutting aid to the poor, and boosting the federal deficit simultaneously!
The main difference is that Rolling Stone, noting that the Rethugs are spending dollars borrowed against our future like drunken sailors, while taking swords to every safety net they see, has a point.
Reagan benefitted from circumstances far beyond his control.
Smiling, genial Ronnie was the last in a string of Presidents, dating back to Truman, decrying Communism and applauding democracy. The real heroes in the Warsaw pact’s demise were Lech Walesa, Vaclev Havel, Mikhail Gorbachev, Pope John Paul the Second, Radio Free Europe, and a world media that kept telling folks in the Soviet sphere that life really was better on the other side of the wall. The free global media are now leading the battle against economic and political totalitarism. Go get ‘em!
Ronnie, who could be kind of a dim bulb at times, happened to be at the right place at the right time.
As for stabilizing the US economy, Alan Greenspan, named as Reagan’s top economics advisor mere weeks after his inaugueration, and promoted to head of the Federal Reserve in 1987, was the real brains behind balanced growth and low inflation.
So don’t soil your knees kneeling before the altar of Ronnie. He’s no deity. A nice guy, but all too human. Though in retrospect, his timing was exquisite!
By getalife
January 20, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
Yes, leave Bill alone
Dog.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this
When the late great Ronald Wilson Reagan, one of the greatest Presidents in our history, was hanging out with “candide” it must have inspired the comment:
“They were holding up signs and yelling ‘make love, not war’, but they didn’t look capable of either”
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this
Here’s the top ten Abramoff list: Haywarth, Ariz. $101,620 Hastert, Ill. 69,000 Cochran, Miss. 65,500 Burns, Mont. 59,590 Pombo, Calif. 54,500 McCrery, La. 52,570 Doolittle, Calif. 50,000 Kennedy, R.I. 42,500 Murray, Wash. 40,980 Nickles, Okla. 40,000 The FBI currently devotes 24 full-time, and 24 part-time agents on the Abramoff scandal. Your tax dollars are at work. Here’s the kicker: Abramoff described those who support the Republicans as: “Morons, troglodytes and monkey’s”. We actually know that troglodyte guy!
By getalife
January 20, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this
Daniel,
You have a link to that to put on my blog?
By Andy
January 20, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
wench: You finally include a link to back up your opinion and it is from Rolling Stone magazine?????? What does this prove? Other than the fact I now have a better idea of why you are always so wrong and so weird.
The only thing you bring to this discussion is your description of how you think history should be remembered. It is your wish, your dream that you share with us. Even Midori (this is a compliment, no flare ups, please) backs up her silly statements with the various kook websites. You bring nothing, zero, but your oddball idea of what America should be. Save your breath.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this
getalife: Hillary trained that dog or maybe Bill did?
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this
gal: I don’t. I got his material from the latest edition of TIME. You might go their site. What “Fat Jack” did, among other things, was to set up bogus charities to funnel cash and gifts to crooked politicians. Delay and Ney went to Scotland for golf, drinks and dinner. Ney’s defense is: “I didn’t know who was paying for it”. Anyone who works for a living knows who pays for what. This is an insult as well as criminal.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this
Does anybody know why “gttim” is suddenly shilling for Charles over at LGF?
In any case check out what Mothra’s favorite group is doing now.
(my spell checker tries to change “gttim” to grim. I’m shocked, shocked)
By getalife
January 20, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this
Andy,
I think Hillary trained the dog to check up on Wild Bill.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I saw that picture somewhere that had a “conversation bubble” with Hillary saying, “Bill, let’s call her Monica.”
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this
Ok, Ok, fess up. How many of you Bush loyalists are on the dole? I’ll check back later, I’m off to my work-oout. Ta. Ta.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this
Its so funny to listen to liberals try to dampen what Reagan was able to accomplish. It was always somebody else that did the good work or he just happened to be in the right place at the right time. What a joke. But they will just as well sing the praises of Bill Clinton. But what did Clinton really do? They will say there was peace and prosperity during his time. So is that what makes a President great? I guess FDR was a failure then by those measures. Thomas Sowell was right.
By Midori
January 20, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this
Ricky,
I have a question.
With gas costing over $2 a gallon, how do you keep the Mystery Machine up and running???
Isn’t that awfully expensive?
By getalife
January 20, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this
Thanks Daniel,
I will check Times site. I keep seeing Hastert’s name and think he should resign if involved. Ney’s defense is so weak, I think he lost his mind.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this
RW,
gttim came by and said you posted on the lgf but could not it.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this
“Morons, troglodytes and monkey’s is what Abramoff called the Indians tribes he was stealing money from, one of the crimes he pleaded guilty to. This is one of the biggest factors that falls in favor of the Republicans. As Howard Dean admitted democrats took their bribe money directly from the tribes. Republicans got campaign donations from straight from Abramoff. So if Abramoff’s motivation was to help the Indian tribes by buying Congressional influence, why was he stealing money from them? Unless a Republican is caught red handed influencing legislation in favor of the tribes, as a load of democrats have been and here, they’ve got a solid alibi. Why would a crook (Abramoff) be trying to help their victim (the tribes?)
Thanks, Daniel, for bringing that up.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this
* “While the Democrats certainly are not without sin when it comes to money in politics,” Obama said, “Jack Abramoff and Michael Scanlon and the K Street project—these are Republican sins.”*
Obama and Hillary are starting to show some backbone.
Check out the look Reid is giving Obama in that picture.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this
getalife,
This is better picture if you need material.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this
One of the reasons why Time magazine has become an exclusive kook pinko tabloid, that and their duma-ss “Is God dead?” question:
For Democrats to use this issue in November, they’ll have to increase the number of people who think Republicans are the problem in Washington.
Isn’t this like up to the Justice Department?
Get out there and lie, lie like a rug! He didn’t do it, he didn’t do it, he didn’t DO IT!
By Andy
January 20, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this
Ooops: Forgot the link- “Is God dead?”
Duma-ss pinkos.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this
I like RW’s link better, it’s got Harry Reid’s banner in the background:
Honest Leadership!
Open Government!
Republicans Are Rat Scumbags!
By getalife
January 20, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this
RW,
I have Honest Leadership? and Dems for fair and balance
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Does honest and open Government mean the release of the full Barrett report? Does it mean not holding political events in a tax payer funded building that specifically rules that out? Does it mean not using taxpayer funds to produce political hit pieces?
All that and a tribute to one of the all time greats
By getalife
January 20, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this
RW,
What happened to your comment? Tell me about James Brown, you party with him? I feel good?
By getalife
January 20, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
I use to sing “Mustang Sally” to a stripper from the Gold Club I use to date.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this
Won’t you slow that Mustang down.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I didn’t think the comment belonged. JB used to give me boxing tips, but for some strange reason he would always spin before throwing a punch. I also have no idea why he thought I wanted boxing tips, but he loved the subject. He also talked a lot about shining shoes on Broad Street and always doing anything it took to make it on your own.
Percy, was more of a private partier. Liked his needles.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this
Yes, and JB liked the tea. I remember a bad mug shot of him, he had a few run ins with the law. Mustang Sally brings back good memories.The girl from the Gold Club looked like her
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Nice! The Hot Spot was more my kind of place.
By RE
January 20, 2006 02:06 PM | Link to this
Lets see where the conservatives on the site come down on the issue of the next House leader. Blunt, Boehner or shadegg? It seems like Shadegg is the only one pushing for real reform and an end to the coc.
From the CS monitor: “Since Republicans took back control of the House, the number of earmarks on spending bills has soared from 1,439 to nearly 14,000, according to Citizens Against Government Waste. Over the same period, the number of lobbyists has jumped from 10,798 to 30,402, many of whom now specialize in obtaining earmarks in spending bills for their clients.”
By getalife
January 20, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this
RW,
Also had an ex waitressing at the Cheetah, the one in Vegas was a lot better when I went to Comdex with my brothers. The Hard Rock bar is huge and they have live web cams at their pools.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this
getalife,
It looks like you and I stay just down the road from each other no matter where we were, I was always at the Mirage in Vegas. It sucks since Wynn sold it to the MGM though.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this
RW,
I was living in Vegas when the MGM caught on fire ,pretty bad. My Dad use to go the Siver Slipper and Holiday casinos on the strip. Back then, they would close downtown and party in the streets on the fourth of July. Then it got crazy, so they stopped. Lake Mead, Colorado River and Mt. Charleston are good places to hang out.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I was out there for a friends wedding at the MGM and decided to walk back to the Mirage one night. All h-ell broke loose on the strip, later that night I found out Tupac had gotten shot.
I hope Cynthia McKinney doesn’t read this and drag me into her investigation.
and now I am being dragged out to various arts and crafts stores, against my will. If I’m not back by 5:00 send help.
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this
Abramoff illegally funneled millions into bogus charities to lavish gifts on crooked politicians. That’s why he plead guilty and is a disgraced felon today. He plead guilty to cheating his clients. They got nothing. Abramoff’s motivation was greed for money. He got stupid and now is a convicted criminal singing like a canary in an attempt to salvage his ragged a**. He said that people who support the Republicans are “Troglodytes, monkey’s and morons”. He took their money, He never intended to help them. It’s all about greed. I work for a living. I’m not on the dole. These people are an insult to every decent American.
By finch
January 20, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this
Andy-pie, it’s such fun yanking your chain. especially when I use the truth to yank it.
In terms of tunnel vision, there aint much difference between your WSJ link and my RS link. One of the differences between us is that I dare to read both.
Ronald Reagan was an average President with the luck of incredible timing. Elevating him to the level of sainthood is creepy, and could violate the 2nd Commandment!
You’re so cute when you’re mad!
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this
finch, since you think Reagan was average as President who would you rate as a great President?
By Andy
January 20, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this
wench: Are you kidding me? You’re going to put the Wall Street Journal in the same journalistic stature as the Rolling Stone? Any of you other pinkos want to second that?
One thing you are being true about is that you will not let up with the lies, never present any facts and continue to not contribute to any open, honest discussions. That’s about all I needed to know.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this
I’ve been researching the Reagan legacy and I’m starting to agree that he was below average. One of the first things he did when he got in office was the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy for gays in the military which was probably one of the most spineless empty pieces of executive orders ever created. He then led our troops in the Somalia U.N. “peacekeeping” mission, turning them over to foreign control, which left them no protection, getting them slaughtered and dragged through the streets of Mogadishu. Then the World Trade Center was bombed for the first time, killing innocent Americans, and was answered with a court summons, instead of an all out invasion of the nearest nutcase country. From there, the terrorists blew a hole in the side of a warship, killing 17 sailors and Reagan said that “it wasn’t provocative enough to warrant a response.” We all know what happened when Al Qaeda went back to the drawing board.
Hey, wait a minute. All this is written in the Rolling Stone. The Wall Street Journal says Bill Clinton did all of that stuff. Never mind!
By RE
January 20, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this
Reagan cut and ran
Remember Beruit…241 US Service men died Reagan’s response….retreat to safety
By RE
January 20, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this
Reagan supplied arms to Iran in exchange for hostages as well…Iran/contra.
Oh, and the contra part was an illegal war down in Nicaragua, just in case you forgot
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this
In 1986 RWR deregulated the S&L Industry spawning the greatest scandal, till then, in US History. He also never balanced one budget. This latter item giving birth to the present profligate spenders. RWR, however, was a charmer and had an actors sense of the moment. He will always be remembered for the “Iran-Contra Scandal” Ollie in the basement trading hostages for guns and money. When the hostages were released the US unfroze millions of Iranian assets previously held by Carter. Let’s move on. America needs good government. The RWR “Problem” is a financial one. Once mediocre politicians folow him, they get the idea that they, too, can get by. Sadly, the current leadership is abysmal, weak and cowardly. America will pay the price for these crooks for years and years to come.
By RE
January 20, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this
The hostages in Iran were released on the day of Reagans Inaugeration. How exactally did he retaliate against Iran for that crime….he sold them weapons two years later. Is he really your favorite president
By kimberly
January 20, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this
Y’all forgot to mention that on Christmas Eve 1992, President Bush the Smarter issued pardons: *Grant of Executive Clemency December 24, 1992 By the President of the United States of America
A Proclamation
Today I am exercising my power under the Constitution to pardon former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger and others for their conduct related to the Iran-Contra affair.*
Mind you, that whole treasonous arms deal stuff, and subsequent cover-up, doesn’t come close to being the CRIME that getting a little piece on the side is, am I right, oh s-xless ones? You can never forgive a man for having a working member! Hahaha!
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this
Kimberly: Thanks. We’ve missed you!
By RE
January 20, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this
It got awfully quiet in here all of a sudden…come on Bush supporters, stand up for Ronnie
By Andy
January 20, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this
All anyone has to do is compare the Reagan years against the Carter and Clinton presidencies. Case closed. We can nitpik all night, Reagan cut taxes and created an economic boom that continues today. He restored pride in America. Clinton restored pride in the pornography business which is booming even today. Jimmy Carter was a laughing stock, his sole show of strength was to kick the rooskies out of the Olympics. Whoop de do.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this
RE,
Within a 24 hour span you have gone from condemning Republicans for not trying to stop the spread communism to claiming doing so is illegal.
Do you just type to see your initials in lights?
By RE
January 20, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this
Nitpik????
Cut and run Ronnie let 241 US service members die and did nothing….not even boycot the olympics.
Selling arms to a terrorist state…is that nitpiking?
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this
Wow there really is alot of hate for Reagan. I didn’t realize how much the left really hated Reagan. Reagan did a lot of great things for this country. Did he have his bad times? Of course. All 2 term presidents do. In reality I think the left hates Reagan so much because he revitalized the conservative movement after the debacle of Nixon.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this
He cut out of Beirut because priority #1 was collapsing the Soviet Union, which he accomplished with very little help and an active pinko resistance the whole way. In retrospect, he should have dropped a hydrogen bomb on Beirut but alot of people would have freaked out over that. So you could say he had restraint.
By RE
January 20, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this
Change the subject RW, very nice.
Are you a cut and run Ronnie supporter?
By getalife
January 20, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this
Which one of these three are not corrupt?
To take the leadership for the coc.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this
RE: None of what you are spazzing over amounts to a hill of beans. So what on the Iranian arms, he got hostages released and arms to the Hondurans so they could fight communists. Big deal.
By kimberly
January 20, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this
So Andy, can I apply the same economic principles to my household? You know, max out the credit cards beyond what I can ever pay, and that’s okay, ‘cause I have nice STUFF at home? Is that okay? I mean, you DO measure a person’s value by the STUFF in their house, right? Not by how much I owe or how responsible I am, but important things like materialistic status symbols, expensive shoes and purses, and of course, a couple of Beamers in the driveway…
Will all be forgiven, and my heirs will proclaim that I was a great manager of money? I mean if it’s good enough for the Gipper, why not me?
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this
RE,
The cut-and-run from Lebanon is widely cited as a mistake by Republicans and Democrats alike. So why is it the only “strategy” that comes with a moonbat seal of approval?
By Lol
January 20, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this
How’s that “bull” market doing? lol.
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this
We survived RWR. When he was deposed in the Iran-Contra scandal and asked about the details his response wwas uniform: “I don’t remember”. Now, that could have been the truth. We know he suffered from Alzheimers Disease. I wonder what would have happened if WJC had adopted the RWR defense when asked about Monica.
By RE
January 20, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this
The left hates Reagan…No I just would not call a man who cut and ran after 241 soldiers died, supplied arms to a terrorist nation after they kidnaped 66 hostages, and coducted an Illegal war in south america using drug money one of the greatest presidents…but you can apologize and distract all you care to. I expect a little more from any president.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this
Kimberly: I’ve heard the exact same thing from you pinkos for the last 26 years. When do you reckon the economy is going to collapse? Is this a 10 or 20 more year plan you are freaking out over?
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this
RE,
How am I changing the subject by saying that yesterday you said Bush needed to do something to stop the spread of communism in South America and today you say when Reagan did just that it was illegal?
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this
LOL: I bet your a real economic genius. One day of a 200 point loss and you’re gloating? I’ve made 35% on my money in the last 9 months. That’s the difference between a pinko and a Conservative. I gloat over success, you take pride in failure. It will never change.
By kimberly
January 20, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this
I’m sorry Andy. I’ll slow down a bit. Obviously you’re confused. First of all, I am a woman, and I think everyone stipulates there is an element of pink to womanhood. So why do you throw that around so disrespectfully? Do you hate women? Is that why you’re so angry?
But I asked a question that you didn’t answer. Is it OKAY, in YOUR opinion, for me to conduct my finances the same way? Because the Repub-led congress disagrees, hence the recent bankruptcy bill. I was wondering if YOU agree with the Congress on this bill or not?
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this
RE, do you expect the President to do what is in the best interest of his country? Do you expect the President to leave office with a booming economy? Do you expect a President to restore faith in his country? Do you remember what America was like when Carter left office? The country as a whole was at its worst since the deepest days of the Great Depression. When Reagan left office, we had defeated our greatest enemy and America was in the best shape it had ever been in at that point.
By RE
January 20, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this
I just wanted to know, who here thinks cut and run Ronnie is one of the greatest presidents?
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this
RWR?, not even close. Can anyone answer Kimberly’s question? Should we apply the borrow and spend principles of the government to our households? Is this leadership by example?
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this
RE, Reagan was one of the greatest presidents. Look at polls taken on the subject. He constantly ranks in the top 5. So you want to latch on to one thing he did. You call him cut and run Ronnie, so does that make Carter, I can’t keep hostages back Jimmy. Or does that make Clinton I lied to the nation Billy. Is that really your best arguement? I would have expected more
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this
Kimberly: You make things personal all on your own. Pinko is a political term, look it up. While you are at it, see how many poor we can feed if we are economically depressed nation like… Africa. Or an overtaxed nation like France. The U.S. leads the way in giving aid hands down.
It’s the success versus failure concept ^^^. Some people have these enormous guilt trips over being successful. It’s clinical, a sickness, you should seek treatment for it, not try to drag everybody down to your level so that you feel better.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this
Reagan is top 5 no problem.
By RE
January 20, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this
ohhh. Look at the polls. My mistake. I am sure the 241 dead soldiers in Beruit did not participate in that poll. But I am sure the Syrians liked him when they took control of Lebanon
By kimberly
January 20, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this
Thanks Andy. I’m trying to stick with your logic here. So, if I FEEL successful, based on having a house full of expensive furniture, nice clothes, and top-of-the-line home entertainment systems, YET at the same time, I’m $100 thousand in debt to Capital One, AM I SUCCESSFUL? Or am I experiencing a DELUSION of being successful? Please help me out here!
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this
RE,
Have you ever stopped to think that maybe Reagan believed the fanatical Muslims when they said we were attacked because of our presence there. He didn’t have examples to prove that wasn’t the case.
We now know that was a mistake, why do you think most of the Dems endorse repeating that mistake?
By lol
January 20, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this
Actually it was you Andy gloating about the great shape the market was in and how it was poised for a great bull run. Remember, about 2 weeks ago you saying this Andy? What happened? You said it would soar past 11,000. I guess that was the great “Bull” you were talking about, 2 whole hours at 11,000 wowie! More like Andy’s bulls**t market. Lol.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this
RE, are you serious? Are you that childish? I am sure the Rangers that got killed in Somalia didn’t vote in the poll either. Or the almost million that got killed in WW II. Or what about the 58,000 kille in Vietnam
By Liberal Texas Democrat
January 20, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this
Six militant Islamist conspirators were convicted of the crime in 1997 and 1998 and given prison sentences of a maximum of 240 years each. The main reason that the World Trade Center did not collapse was due to the towers’ strength and the fact that Yousef did not have enough money to build a more powerful bomb. Let’s see now, which president had to head the government that brought these terrorists to justice all the while having to answer questions about his p*** and all the while have to listen to the incessant chanting from the right of “No war for Monica”.
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this
So, none of you can answer the question. The Nation is like an athlete on steroids. We have the appearance of vitality. Like a drunk in a saloon with a credit card. We’re borrowing 2B a day from Asia, to keep America fat, happy and stupid. Yet, at some point basic laws of debts and credit will apply. America will have to start paying its debts. The modern Republican is a liberal big government reckles borrower and spender. Those that aren’t crooks, that is.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
Kimberly: Alright, I’ll play along. Are you asking the question on a personal level or governmental?
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this
Liberal Texas Democrat, you are confusing your facts. The whole wag the dog arguement was over Clinton bombing Iraq during the Monica liefest. It had nothing to do with the trial of the terrorists.
RE, by your arguement you are disqualifying your hero Clinton from being a great President. By your logic he cut and run in Somalia so he can’t be a great President.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this
lol: Failure makes you happy, doesn’t it? I haven’t changed my mind. The situtiation in Iran has caused a minor downturn, this will correct itself. It may have not even touched my mutual funds, I won’t know until they post. The DOW is a very vague indicator.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 05:33 PM | Link to this
Daniel, that same arguement was made during Reagans administration. The left was screaming about our spending and our future. It turned out okay. And the modern Republican is not a liberal big goverment fan like you suggest. Bush is more of a big gov’t conservative than most of us conservatives would like, but you can’t lump the whole party into that as much as you would like. Also, would you include William Jefferson from LA into your crooks statement since he is under investigation for bribery?
By kimberly
January 20, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this
I’m asking if it’s okay to apply the same standards to MY money that you are praising in the government’s management of OUR money.
I’m asking whether the measure of success really IS in the “stuff”, like the wild big-spending days of the 80’s, or if it’s in the bottom line, as with those who spend what they have, pay the bills and avoid massive debt.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this
I know one thing about Beirut, no kook terrorist came out and said America was a weak horse and then slaughtered 3000 of our citizens over it. You have to look to Clinton and Somalia for that credit.
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this
Her are my five greats in order: Washington, “Honest” Abe, Jefferson, FDR, Teddy and DDE. I recall Ike. No one of late comes close.
By RE
January 20, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this
Clinton is not my Hero, I figure him to be an average to above average president lucky enough to serve during good times.
Cut and run Ronnie on the other hand never had the guts to stand up to the terrorists. If you want to keep believing he was the greatest ever, that is your business. History shows him to be a coward
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this
Daniel,
Why does your top five have six?
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this
RE, yep Reagan was a coward when he confronted the communist bloc. He was a coward when he rescued the medical students in Grenada. How was Clinton average? What did he do?
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this
Kimberly, to borrow and spend can often times be used to further the success of an individual or partnership, so yes it is lead by example. I am trying to go in debt to start a business right know and I’ll probably be leveraged 80 percent of my annual income.
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this
Sorry, that’s six. I got carried away. I had to add Eisenhower. The first three are interchangable. We suffer from a lack of leadership today. America deserves so much better.
By RE
January 20, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this
No andy, they figured the american president was weak and took over the WHOLE COUNTRY of lebanon. how many were slaughtered there after Reagan cut and ran. Go ahead, keep praising him. I though supplying weapons to a terrorist country like Iran might be considered treason, but I guess that is what you admire
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this
RE, if he committed treason why wasn’t he charged?
By Jesus
January 20, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
Kimberly: Right now, “stuff” is driving our economy, it has increased tax revenues, business orders, etc. Our budget deficit is too high but compared as a percentage to the gross national product it is not out of hand. There is a movement to reign in spending that I agree with, I don’t know if they will be successful, alot of congressman on both sides of the aisle have their little spending projects and don’t like to give them up. Closing the department of education would be an excellent place to start.
1 economic issue to correct is the energy policy. We have to increase domestic oil production, convert electricity generation into nuclear power with very minimal coal and relax regulatory standards on gasoline refineries. This is one of the biggest economic drags we’ve got right now, it caused the fall of the market today because of oil worries, guess who is voting all of the common sense legislation down over hysterical reasons? The pinkos maybe?Isn’t that something, they block legislation that would increase our prosperity and then dog out Republicans because we have no prosperity. It must be nice.
By RE
January 20, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
Because he couldn’t remember…
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
Ricky: Try to think outside left/right. What is best for our nation? What is the economic plan? So far it looks like endless borrow and spend. Can anyone tell the plan?
By Lol
January 20, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this
Ricky it does not take courage to invade Grenada. LOL!
By kimberly
January 20, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this
Thanks Scooter. Please be careful. I’d read the new laws regarding credit and bankruptcy very thoroughly before signing anything.
I’d still appreciate it if Andy would answer my question (and not just throwing that pink word at me.)
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this
RE, at least your posts are amusing.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this
That would make a good movie “The Coward who Collapsed Communism.” Jimmy freakin Carter signed over treaty after treaty while he was on his knees. Clinton got to reap the “peace dividend” which Reagan brought about, it’s the only reason for the economic success of the 90’s.
By Liberal Texas Democrat
January 20, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this
The whole Somalia debacle was conceived by and begun when GHW Bush put 41 troops on the ground. The Clinton administration’s track record for capturing and convicting those who attacked this nations interests is still much better than Bush. Let us not forget that on 9/11 GWB was meeting wijth Osoma’s brother working a deal for the Carlile Group.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this
Daniel, I do think outside of left and right. This is what I think is best for our nation. I believe in tax cuts. They stimulate the economy and give individuals more control over their own life. Second, I believe in limited government. I don’t agree with the way Bush is spending. However, overall the economic plan is working. By cutting taxes and putting more money into the system we have improved our economy. Our economy is growing at a steady rate. In my opinion what is really holding us back is too much government spending. I firmly believe in a balanced budget.
By Lol
January 20, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this
Bush supports communism, just ask China, lol.
By Liberal Texas Democrat
January 20, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this
OOPs GHWBush
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this
Kimberly: I don’t know what else you want me to say. The Republicans brought out legislation to make bankruptcy harder to file, all of the liberals went berserk. This is a damned if you do damned if you don’t situtiation. Up there ^^^ Daniel harps on borrowing >>>> over there the libs want to make bankruptcy easy like abortion. What’s up?
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this
Liberal Texas Democrat, I am pretty sure more terrorists have been killed or captured under Bush than Clinton. Good try though.
By kimberly
January 20, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the clarification, Andy. Although I’m not sure how all the “stuff” is driving our economy when most of it is made in other countries.
I agree with you that energy issues factor strongly. I disagree that the answer is to depend even MORE heavily on the advice of the current crop of oil barrons, who currently run most of everything, when it’s THEIR greed and deception that have kept us oil dependent for decades longer than we should have been. Had we shifted focus to cleaner, greener technologies YEARS ago, (like some of the much-maligned, “tree-hugging” politicians WANTED to), we would not only need less oil now, but we’d have lots more domestic energy jobs and the respect of the world for being scientific innovators like we once were.
By Lol
January 20, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this
Yes Ricky Bush has the “courage” to kill 30,000 women and children terrorists in Iraq, God bless him.
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this
Ricky: Ok, you are as concerned as I am. I don’t trust government, not big government and not this one. Here is the problem. DDE said “Beware the military-industrial complex” Once powerful corporations become dependent on government spending; we will have a dickens of time weaning them. Watch this Abramoff debacle. It’s all about money. We need leadership with the courage to tell us to tighten our belts. Sadly, not this one.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this
kimberly, while what you say about moving to less oil dependent energy years ago would have helped our current situation, would you also agree that if we had drilled in ANWAR years ago we would be less dependent on foreign oil now?
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this
Liberal Texas Democrat: Clinton was the Commander In Chief of those troops when they got slaughtered. It was an operational decision to not provide them air cover. Bad idea as usual for you libs, it’s like cutting the military budget all through the nineties, we’re still getting caught back up.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this
lol: The terrorists killed those people in Iraq, you little pervert.
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this
Now, Kimberly! Hold it right there! You mean an alternative energy plan! An actual plan! A plan based on American resources and not on foreign oil! Ethanol? What would we do with the fat cats?
By RE
January 20, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this
So Reagan was the sole reason Communism collapsed….of course it was not until HW Bush that this actually happened. Did he make the sun rise and the stars come out at night too. Praise the coward all you want. History tells a different story.
I would like to see a movie with Cut and Run Ronnie right after beruit, cowering in the corner, eating jelly beans, turning to Nancy and saying “Mommy I’m scared, this isn’t like hollywood”
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this
RE, you are obviously not intelligent. Thanks for wasting our time
By Andy
January 20, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this
You people are sick in the dam-n head. Our soldiers can’t kill one terrorist who was fumbling with his suicide belt without it becoming a national freakin debate. How in the h-ell do you kooks figure we got away with the murder of 30,000 women and children? Every unit has a cameraman with it, you got to be kidding me with this, right?
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this
Andy, its time for your nightie.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this
Daniel: Now, hold it right there, you mean we just park our cars until they all run off of grass clippings? We collapse our economy until we have a viable source of unlimited lawn mowings?
By Scooter
January 20, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this
Kimberly thanks for your concern, but my pride would not allow me to take the easy way of bankruptcy. It would have to be debilitating circumstances.
By kimberly
January 20, 2006 06:05 PM | Link to this
Regarding the new bankruptcy law, Andy, we’re circling back around to my earlier questions. Why is there one standard of “responsibility and accountability” for the governement to manage OUR money, and a different standard for ME?
BTW, I am in favor of personal responsibility, and I don’t really have a house full of nice stuff, nice cars, or expensive shoes & purses. Not impressed by shallow materialism — sorry.
The problem with the bankruptcy legislation is not that it requires more responsibility, but that (a) it makes NO provision for the credit industry to police itself, or to refrain from its practice of making risky loans or sending cards to college kids who cannot pay. IF there’s a credit crisis, why not have the banks behave more responsibly AS WELL? Are they not at least as culpable as the borrowers? and (b) there is no distinction between shopoholics and utterly irresponsible consumers, and hard-working families who suffer a medical or personal catastrophe. 50% of all bankruptcies are filed by the second group, but now many have lost whatever chance they might have of recovering. So, READ CAREFULLY before signing!
Time for happy hour! Ciao.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this
RE: Not only HW Bush, but you can also credit Margaret Thatcher, Lech Walesa, Pope John Paul II, Solidarity, East German People and so on, for their help in implementing Reagan’s Policy To Collapse The Soviet Union.” Look in the national Archives, he wrote it down before it happened.
By kimberly
January 20, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this
It would have to be debilitating circumstances. Scoot, I hope you’re a man of faith, because debilitating circumstances will no be an “excuse.” Good luck to you!
By Lol
January 20, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this
Andy, how dare you call Bush a terrorist.
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this
American Foreign Policy of uniting the World against Communism began after the Great War with HST. It was the firm unified effort of our government for the next 44 years! All Presidents. All Congresses. RWR had the wisdom to continue this policy. Communis, fell in 1989 when GHWB was prez. Give credit where credit is due. By the way, the Soviet Union in its bleakest, weakest, saddest moment was ten times stronger than Saddam ever thought he was. It was a painful moment for many of us to watch the hysterical talk-up to the Iraq War.
By lol
January 20, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this
Bankruptcy Bill = lobbyists
Highway Bill = lobbyists
Energy Bill = lobbyists
By Liberal Texas Democrat
January 20, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this
Andy: It was an operational decision made with the best advice from the military professionals at the Pentagon. It was a situation foisted on Clinton by Bush.
By RE
January 20, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this
Cowards cut and run….just like Ronnie
By Andy
January 20, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this
Hey lol, lover and admirer of failure: Look at my mutual fund. It went down 1%, the DOW lost 2, NASDAQ 2.5. I’m a damn genius, ain’t I? Look at that upward trending on that graph. Tore me a new one, didn’t it?
By RE
January 20, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this
We do not negotiate with terrorists….. except selling weapons to Iran for hostages
By RE
January 20, 2006 06:17 PM | Link to this
Maybe Carter could have gotten those hostages back if he sold Iran weapons…. Did you ever wonder why they were released on the day of Reagan’s inaugeration. Think maybe they already had a deal worked out for when he took office?
By lol
January 20, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this
Andy where is the Bull market and the soaring over 11,000 that you were directly linking to Bush a couple weeks ago?
What happened???????????
WHERE is it.lol
By Daniel
January 20, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this
I think it’s hiding behind the balanced budget.
By lol
January 20, 2006 06:30 PM | Link to this
Today, Jan 20, 2006 is the 5 year anniversary of the date Neil Cavutto from Fox News started predicting a new bull market. 1825 in a row he has predicted the start of a new bull market. Well one day its bound to happen, especially with all the “great” Bush economic policies place. lol.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this
RE, so was Clinton a coward when he cut and ran in Somalia? What about the Dems calling for withdrawal from Iraq? From reading your post it would seem so.
By Liberal Texas Democrat
January 20, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this
Andy: “How in the h-ell do you kooks figure we got away with the murder of 30,000 women and children? Every unit has a cameraman with it, you got to be kidding me with this, right?” perhaps the answer is here
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this
Liberal, do you really think that site speaks for all soldiers?
By Andy
January 20, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this
Liberal Texas Democrat: Try to get a little more serious with your links, anybody can start a blog and fill it with lies, look at getalife.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this
I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage and many other conservative talk show host and it is clear to me that all these guys want to do is run their mouths about things they have no clue about regarding the war in Iraq.
Thanks for the plug Andy
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 06:50 PM | Link to this
getalife, would that be like all the commentaters on the left that have no idea about the war in Iraq
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 06:51 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Did you stop by the site I left for you?
By getalife
January 20, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this
I am watching Lou Dobbs and I see Mexico and Canada treating us like dogs. Where is the badass Bush, bring it on crap!
By Midori
January 20, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this
Ricky,
do you speak for all morons?
or private detectives?
or Scooby Doo sidekicks?
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this
getalife, why don’t you have an article about William Jefferson(D-LA) being investigated for bribery
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 06:54 PM | Link to this
Midori, again you prove my point that all you do is insult people. What do you believe in?
By getalife
January 20, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this
RW,
Hey, I didn’t get censored. Yes, that next blog had Green Day and System of a Down.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I didn’t mean hitting the button that takes you to different sites all the time, go to the site I left in my comment. It’s got some pictures you may want to post.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 06:59 PM | Link to this
Good point Ricky,
I will, corruption is running rampant on both sides. It is one big cluster…. I can’t wait to see who Jack and Tom snitched on.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this
Why do you think DeLay is snitching?
By RE
January 20, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this
See how Ricky cannot defend Cut and Run Ronnie’s actions so he trys to change the subject. Let me refresh your memory:
terrorists attack a marine barracks in beruit
241 soldiers die
Ronnie does nothing in retaliation. Instead he pulls our forces out and hands lebanon over to Syria.
I guess no one else here thinks it is a little strange Iran released the hostages the day cut and run was inaugerated, right before he started supplying Iran with weapons.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this
RE, I didn’t change the subject. I asked if you applied the same standard to Clinton. I agree that it was wrong to leave Lebanon. You still haven’t answered the question though. Did you ever think that maybe the Iranians just wanted to embarras Carter and had no need to keep the hostages any longer? I hope you answer the question this time
By getalife
January 20, 2006 07:06 PM | Link to this
RW,
In ml’s words, Sweeet!
By getalife
January 20, 2006 07:08 PM | Link to this
Ricky,
To save his a* from going to prison like Jack.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 07:09 PM | Link to this
So you have no proof getalife
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 07:11 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I thought you might like that one.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 07:11 PM | Link to this
Ricky,
Keep in mind, everything you read about Jack, Tom was his guy. Watch and see, that is how the system works, snitches.
By RE
January 20, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this
I do think they embarrased Carter, but you are awful trusting if you don’t question why they released the hostages on inaugeration day right before we started supplying them with arms.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this
RE, again you avoided my question. I guess you don’t want to get yourself into that condurum. I never said I didn’t question it, I am just saying there is the possibility that it wasn’t some deal made behind the scenes like you are saying. But again why not answer my question?
By Liberal Texas Democrat
January 20, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this
Ricky: It spoke for one, who unfortunately has committed suicide. As as one who has “been there, done that” during another era, it spoke more truth to me then what I hear from “embedded propogandists” serving corporate media.
By Ricky
January 20, 2006 07:18 PM | Link to this
Liberal, I have been to Iraq for two tours and the views represented on that page don’t match up with the soldiers i have served with or talked to over there
By getalife
January 20, 2006 07:19 PM | Link to this
RW,
Absolutely, well actually Stoli.
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 07:22 PM | Link to this
Getalife: What if there is “honor among thieves”. No snitching! Will you be disappointed?
“Osama Knows The COC”. That just sounds wrong.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this
OO,
In the blog world, you have to be crazy to get attention.
As far as snitching, I do not think Tom and Jack can handle doing time, so they will roll.
Hammertime! Can’t touch this!
By Liberal Texas Democrat
January 20, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this
Ricky: I know the feeling. I was in Viet Nam until an artillery round sent me home, and the first thing I learned was that everyone’s experience was different, remembered diferently, and reported differently by the media. What the media reported was different from my experience but that did not mean that it wasn’t accurate. I muh more skeptikal of escorted embedded media, however.
By Andy
January 20, 2006 07:32 PM | Link to this
RE: When did OBL bring up Beirut right before he slaughtered 3000 American citizens? I coulda swore that was Somalia he talked about.
By Liberal Texas Democrat
January 20, 2006 07:37 PM | Link to this
OOPs I’m much more skeptical of the escorted embedded media, however.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Boortz is picking on Mothra. Look what he said about OBL’s rant.
Here is the full transcript of the audio tape believed to be voiced by Osama Bin Laden. The CIA believes it was authentic, although there is no direct proof that John Murtha actually wrote the speech.
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this
Getalife: Some interesting interviews. Scroll up. My man is on top. Your guys are on bottom.
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 08:06 PM | Link to this
Oh my gosh! R.W. is that translation legitimate? And they say that the media does not support terrorism. Unbelievable and unforgiveable.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this
RW,
I read the whole OBL statement, it seems Fox did some cherry picking, imagine that.
OO,
You mean this guy
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this
getalife,
That is a transcript of the portions al Jazeera felt were relevant, because that is what they broadcast. Fox isn’t the one doing the cherry picking.
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this
Getalife: You’re mean. Look at that snarled lip. You gotta love it.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 08:24 PM | Link to this
RW,
This will prevent the loss of millions of dollars, billions of dollars that go to corrupt businessmen in the United States.
It is worded differntly from my post but it does show OBL knows the coc.
OO,
Cheney is the devil, he likes torture.
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 08:33 PM | Link to this
Getalife: The reason for the snarl perhaps? I’ll take it.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 08:35 PM | Link to this
getalife,
You might want to find better allies in your fight.
Cheney for President!
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 08:38 PM | Link to this
ALRIGHT!!!
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 08:42 PM | Link to this
R.W.: I saw today’s cartoon as a “Squeeeaaze Play” on the marshmallows. No?
By getalife
January 20, 2006 08:44 PM | Link to this
RW,
Did you link this?
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 08:47 PM | Link to this
Objective Observer,
I haven’t brushed up in marshmallow psychology in years. You are far more qualified than I am to see ml’s message.
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this
There’s gonna be alot of dead presidents Getalife.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Did you really get that from my Pravda link? Try the one for Democrats.
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this
I was kidding R.W. I really did see it as an unfortunate mishap from a less than eloquent speaker. Not everybody is gifted with a silver tongue.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 08:56 PM | Link to this
Objective Observer,
Wasn’t Nagin a high level corporate executive before becoming Mayor?
By getalife
January 20, 2006 08:56 PM | Link to this
RW,
Nice, are you crazy and a link to the coc.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 08:58 PM | Link to this
Look who’s entertaining the “screw ‘em” Kos Kiddies.
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this
Now R.W., that statement on Nagin does not exhibit your worldly knowledge. I’m surprised. Corporate execs don’t always qualify as being exemplary in their oratory skills. Or I could have just said “So what”.
By getalife
January 20, 2006 09:15 PM | Link to this
RW,
Thanks, I left John a note about the coc.
Nagin worked for Cox. I think he was a VP.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this
Objective Observer,
I’ve been dragged around arts and crafts stores today and I think I lost my craftiness.
That’s what I meant “inartful language” by an executive. Kind of like the man who runs the Executive Branch.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 09:36 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I see you are pimping your blog at Kos now. Maybe John F’ng Kerry will visit.
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 09:39 PM | Link to this
Getalife: This should put you at odds with KOS:
Liberals shouldn’t pretend to be in favour of the military (as a concept most liberals are instinctively against it) when we aren’t. The military are ‘special cirucmstances’ - men who must do a dirty job when all other opportunities and options are exhausted. They aren’t men to be lionised and put on a pedestal - they’re like toilet cleaners: it’s a dirty job, but someone’s gotta do it. There’s nothing brave or noble about it - it’s a dirty, degrading, inhuman affair, but one which is occasionally necessary. As a person with an extensive family military history, I say this not as a detractor but as a reluctant supporter.
This blogger doesn’t think very highly of veterans like Murtha.
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 09:42 PM | Link to this
You are still very easy to forgive R.W. But not the terrorist supporting media!!! Sorry for the shopping trip. All married men must succumb.
By finch
January 20, 2006 09:47 PM | Link to this
Hiya OO,
Where’d that military=toilet cleaner paragraph come from? Kos? Tactless and tacky!
By Midori
January 20, 2006 10:03 PM | Link to this
or, better yet, RW: perhaps George “D’UH” Bush will stop in as well.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 10:08 PM | Link to this
Well Midori, John F’ng Kerry or someone playing him on Daily “screw ‘em” Kos is actually writing over there.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 10:21 PM | Link to this
The Kos version of John Kerry seems pretty concerned with the reputation of a war protestor.
There’s something that doesn’t sit right with me when, on the day Osama Bin Laden resurfaced in a disturbing audio tape, cable television ends up in a game of name calling as a war protester is compared to Osama Bin Laden.
Wasn’t he one of those?
By Objective Observer
January 20, 2006 10:46 PM | Link to this
My Dennis is on Leno tonight. No History Channel for me.
By RW-(the original)
January 20, 2006 10:51 PM | Link to this
Dennis is married to Ali Epsley. They have two children, Holden and Marlon.
By Pink Salmon
January 21, 2006 12:34 AM | Link to this
In the pine, in the pine, where the sun doesn’t shine…”
By Kev
January 23, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this
Ray Nagine is a racist and should be removed from his position as mayor. A lot of people died because of his inability to lead and prepare. He and that poor excuse for a govenor should be indicted for negligent homicide for the people who perished there because of their inabilty to act in a crisis.
By Dale
January 24, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
Ray Nagin: “We’ll call it ‘New Smorleans.’”