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By getalife

January 12, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

Me too, it was a circus. Lord help us.

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2006 09:48 PM | Link to this

ml’s world certainly has lots of tiny rooms and giant TV’s. Let’s hope he doesn’t scribble a close-up of Ted’s giant head on that screen.

By Dusty

January 12, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

Mrs.—He’s been mind numbingly detailed about a host of issues.

Mr.—Yeah, I wish Luckovich would shut up.

Mrs.—Shut up? He draws cartoons?

Mr.—Why isn’t he in the comics?

Mrs.—He flunked out.

By Objective Observer

January 12, 2006 09:59 PM | Link to this

R.W.: I have seen that one. Do you think the couple on the sofa represents ml’s bloggers. They seem to be on opposite sides of the debate. Ted’s head looks like it is about to explode. Have I mentioned how much I despise that man?

By getalife

January 12, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this

The sofa matches his pants in the last cartoon.

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2006 10:04 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

It could be, I think it’s funny that the Dems were so bad in this hearing that even ml couldn’t ignore it.

I had to bring the Viking kitties over here, they were lonely

By Objective Observer

January 12, 2006 10:04 PM | Link to this

Getalife: This one is yesterday’s leftovers, which is probably what Scooter was having for dinner tonight.

By getalife

January 12, 2006 10:07 PM | Link to this

OO,

Scooter the chef eats good.

The viking kitties rock.

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2006 10:09 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Some of the viking kitties friends are starring in Brokeback Scratching Post

By getalife

January 12, 2006 10:14 PM | Link to this

RW,

Alot better than last night’s gore.

By Objective Observer

January 12, 2006 10:17 PM | Link to this

R.W.: I resisted temptation and took your sage advice last night.

Goodnight guys! One more day and then three off. I need it.

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2006 10:18 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

Goodnight.

By getalife

January 12, 2006 10:18 PM | Link to this

Goodnight!

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2006 10:20 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Where are your friends from the Puffington Host?

By buff

January 12, 2006 10:23 PM | Link to this

OK

Let’s be fair here

We have criticized Lameovich for his ‘toons, but, this was does go after Dems

So, thanks Mike

By RW-(the original)

January 12, 2006 10:28 PM | Link to this

buff,

You’re here mighty late tonight, Cheers!

By Dusty

January 12, 2006 10:40 PM | Link to this

buff,

You are right. But Luckovich’s politics have me so turned off that I can’t appreciate anything he does. I know. That isn’t fair or non-discriminatory or non-judgmental, etc.,etc. But his anti-war attitude which I believe hurts our own country and our troops gets me a little beyond fair. My respect for him about equals my respect for Sheehan. Maybe a little less. She did lose a son before losing her judgment.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 12:03 AM | Link to this

I’m not sure why I think anyone cares about a woman marrying a man named Cindy, but it does sound a bit fishy.

By Ann

January 13, 2006 12:15 AM | Link to this

I have been reading the blog off and on for a few months now and was just wondering about all the guys and their bragging about all the drinking they do. Is this not the same people that are making all the jokes about Ted Kennedy drinking. Just wondering and I think you will know who you are.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 12:38 AM | Link to this

Ann,

I’ve been reading this blog since it’s inception, I’ve even been known to post once or twice a day and I don’t see very many people bragging about their drinking.

Maybe a better question you could explore is how many people on this blog have let a woman suffocate in a tiny air pocket in a car that had been driven into three feet of water while they ignored her plight and plotted to save their own career.

Read through the pages here and see if you think Ted Kennedy is just a guy that enjoys a beverage

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 12:51 AM | Link to this

Alito Likely To Become A Justice Liberals See Slim Chance Of Blocking Confirmation

President Bush called Alito from Air Force One “to congratulate him for doing a great job during the hearings,” the White House said. Committee member John Cornyn (R-Tex.) predicted the nominee “will be confirmed,” adding that “the unfounded attacks on Judge Alito had about as much traction as bald tires on an icy road.”

The only thing that could go wrong now is if President Bush said, “You’re doing a heckuva job Sammy” during that phone call.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 04:45 AM | Link to this

How to increase the number of democrat voters:

RICHMOND — Gov. Mark Warner, whose last day as Virginia’s chief executive is tomorrow, ends his four-year term with the distinction of having restored the voting rights of 3,414 felons — more than any other governor in state history and far ahead of the totals in 12 of the 13 other states that deny convicts the right to vote.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 05:22 AM | Link to this

Did we close the book on the Al Qaeda- Iraq thing yet?:

Mr. Hayes reports that, from 1999 through 2002, “elite Iraqi military units” trained roughly 8,000 terrorists at three different camps—in Samarra and Ramadi in the Sunni Triangle, as well as at Salman Pak, where American forces in 2003 found the fuselage of an aircraft that might have been used for training. Many of the trainees were drawn from North African terror groups with close ties to al Qaeda, including Algeria’s GSPC and the Sudanese Islamic Army. Mr. Hayes writes that he had no fewer than 11 corroborating sources, and yesterday he told us he’d added several more since publication.

Why, the Wall Street Journal is an extreme right wing neocon cabal apparatus, blah, blah, blah.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 05:24 AM | Link to this

At this moment, one sensed that perhaps at last the ghost of Robert Bork had finally been laid to rest. Borking was once a Democratic smear tactic. This week—amid intellectually exhausted and politically befuddled Democrats—it became a laugh track.

This Roman circus dissipates, however, with the arrival of Supreme Court nominations, which are held in full view of the American people. And what has been witnessed so far is first John Roberts and now Samuel Alito discussing the law, rather than Coke cans, which puts their Democratic questioners on unfamiliar ground.

By buff

January 13, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

you are right about ml’s slant. I was just trying to be fair as I have criticized him so much

I agree with you that the leftists have hurt our troops, but, they see themselves as “caring” about the troops, when in actuality they just hate the Prez

By buff

January 13, 2006 08:29 AM | Link to this

Ann

Come on, now. If I sit here at home and knock down a pint of bourbon I am harming no one but myself. I NEVER drive drinking, have NEVER cheated on my bride, have NEVER let an innocent die due to my selfishness and have never been called an arrogant, self-serving a$$, but I have been called the last word

What we despise about Teddy is his holier than thou attitude. How that man can challenge anyone’s integrity is the worst form of hypocrisy

Plus, what kind of person would name his dog “Splash” considering Mary Jo’e watery tomb

By Voice of Reason

January 13, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

I love it when you guys talk about negative comments or whatever hurting the troops. Your comments have no effect on their ability to do their job. While it may be frustrating, it does not sway their morale or ability to accomplish their task.

So try something else.

By finch

January 13, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

Hey con,

Thanks for that link to the WSJ, a conservative rag I actually read and which actually makes money.

It’s new evidence that the US invasion of Iraq has been the single most successful terrorist recruiting tool for Al Qaeda since Osama was exiled from Sauda Arabia.

Thank you, George “Mission Accomplished” Bush.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

I drink because my doctor said I could and it makes me feel better.

RW,

The people at the HP do not listen to me but they treat Mr. Murtha like a god.

Murtha for Congress or President!

By buff

January 13, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

VOR

Two queries

Do you think that if America was united as we were after 9/11 that that might make Al Qaidi more question if it can win?

Do you think Al Qaidi is emboldened by Murtha, Pelosi, et al?

By Dusty

January 13, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

buff,

Thanks for your non-judgmental reply. Perhaps, as a history professor, you can give a clear explanation of how to define the difference between dissent and propaganda when they are both saying the same thing. Is it just a matter of heart, intention or actions?

By Jay not jay

January 13, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this

That may be true VOR, but when members of our Congress make outrageous comments at a time of war (Bush Lied, War for Oil, let’s pull everyone out immediately) it gives the insurgents/terrorist hope and I don’t think we want to give them any of that. I’m sure they just love it when old Kennedy starts running his pie hole with his bs rhetoric. If the comments are based on fact that is different, but the grandstanding for the purpose of politics is neither productive or conducive to finishing the job in Iraq. P.S. The insurgents/terrorists don’t have to receive the morning NY Times on their doorstep to hear our news. They have internet and satellite tv and they keep close tabs of what is going on over here.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

What we despise about Teddy is his holier than thou attitude. How that man can challenge anyone’s integrity is the worst form of hypocrisy

Doesn’t the Republican party hold itself up as the “family values” party? and isn’t said party up to it’s ears in scandal at this very moment?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

With the culture of corruption (coc) in power, we should question and reverse all their decisions because of their intentions are qestionable.

Truthiness : “truthiness” means “truthy, not facty.”

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this

[UCLA, leader of the vast right wing conspiracy-collegiate division, finds the Wall Street Journal the most liberal newspaper in the country]{http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/page.asp?RelNum=6664)

By Voice of Reason

January 13, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

VOR

Buff, No to #1. Regardless of what we do, Al Qaeda believes they can win. If we all held hands across America and sang the Coke song, they would still feel they can defeat the “infidels.”

And No to #2. They may find it humorous that our own leaders think we are jacked up. But the answer to #1 applies to this question as well. Do you think Al Qaidi is emboldened by Murtha, Pelosi, et al?

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

UCLA, leader of the vast right wing conspiracy-collegiate division, finds the Wall Street Journal the most liberal newspaper in the country

By Jay not jay

January 13, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

Sick, do you really want to defend Teddy?

By Voice of Reason

January 13, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

Jay - Please refer to my response to Buff.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

No Jay, there is no defense for Mr. Kennedy BUT those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones (that includes Mr. Kennedy).

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

getalife,

How’s the blog coming? Maybe you can run Mothra’s campaign from there.

By buff

January 13, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

Dusty

The way propaganda is used today is selectively using material to advocate a position

Dissent, disagreeing with an opinion, has been mingled with propaganda to create a highly-charged political environment, which, I truly believe, harms our troops

I have studied the Third Reich, and Hitler was the master of propaganda and created that environment of disagreement/hate for Jews, adn others

Same thing happened here in the 60s

It is not today’s war dissent that bothers me so much as its motive: to hurt the Prez. The left has never gotten over the ‘00 election

By Jay not jay

January 13, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

VOR, do you not think that the insurgents objective is to cause division within our country, wait us out and hope we will turn tail and run out?

The daily media coverage of some of the members of the left I believe may give them the indication we are moving in that direction, but that’s just my opinion.

By buff

January 13, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

This Iranian nuclear business is getting very serious

The UN is worried, oooooh

Maybe they should send the great appeaser, Jimmy Carter, to cut a deal

His North Korean-work was stellar, wasn’t it

By Andy

January 13, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

ANNAPOLIS, Md. — In a stinging defeat for Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. and a major victory for organized labor, the Maryland General Assembly decided on Thursday overrode the veto of a closely-watched bill that will force Wal-Mart to pay more in health benefits to its employees.

Does anybody in here, other than the silly liberals, actually believe that this ignorance will cost WalMart one red cent? The pinkos are suing you, not WalMart.

By WhatABlast

January 13, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

Ah, modern-day Republicans, the Nazis of today, march goose-step through the blogs, reporting to the SS anyone who doesn’t follow their credo, unable to criticly think, and blindly following and supporting a President who has made more costly mistakes than any other in the past 50 years.

By buff

January 13, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

Andy

This is the kind of crap that makes me despise leftists. It is none of their damned business

Yesterday, Midori said she wanted men to stay out of womb decisions for women. How about government stay out of economic decisions for business

And, isn’t it about time to once again hear about the “Living Wage” bill in Atlanta?

By Voice of Reason

January 13, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

Jay - That is part of their Agenda. However, the fact that our political parties don’t agree is not really a new concept in our country. If what you are saying is correct, then the unity in our nation directly after 9-11 would have caused them to fold and abandon their caves.

It doesn’t matter what we do. Anything short of pledging our allegiance to their Allah, will not stop them from hating us, our culture and our need to involve ourselves in their region. Plain and simple.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

RW,

Since you write so well, I would like to invite you to author an article praising the great Mr. Murtha as a link for his upcoming Presidential campaign.

Truthiness : “truthiness�? means “truthy, not facty.�?

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

getalife,

I’ll be more than happy to write that article for you and Mr. Murtha as long as you don’t do any editing.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

If I pay a few more cents for my t-shirts that I buy at Wal-Mart then I think it’s worth it when I know that my friend Esther (who happens to be one of those elderly greeters) will be able to get the care she needs if she were to become ill.

By WhatABlast

January 13, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

Buff, Dissent has not hurt the troops. Dissent may actually force the administration to make better decisions for everyone concerned.

The most harm to the troops has come from the Republicans and their ridiculous administration. They started a mission based on flimsy evidence, supplied by Iran. They didn’t send enough manpower, thanks to Rumsfeld. They refused to follow the advice of senior military officials and mid-east experts, thanks to Executive Branch group-think.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

RW,

I am the editor of my blog so I will not make that promise. However, truthiness is the theme and coc is the subject.

Truthiness : “truthiness�? means “truthy, not facty.�?

By Andy

January 13, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

sicko: My friend Freida would like to get a Cadillac El Dorado, fully loaded with a chauffeur. Who do you suggest that she should sue?

By buff

January 13, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

Sick

If you choose to pay more for a product that is your “decision”

My point is that government needs to butt out

By Jay not jay

January 13, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

I understand what you are saying VOR. However, I don’t think our unity after 9/11 would cause them to fold. I just believe when you are in a fight, unfounded negative comments by your own are not going to help the situation or is going to provoke any kind of positive outcome. It will just cause division within us which is what they are hoping for.

By DJ@GT

January 13, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

buff: Midori will only get her wish when they figure out how to allow women to reproduce asexually (turkey baster doesn’t count). Otherwise, the last time I checked it took two to tango and without men there would be no womb issue.

i’ve been reading some of the nonsense posted to this blog for a while. can we please try to be civil and try and refrain from some of the elementary school name calling. “Goose stepping Nazis” “Pinkos” ….. and making personal attacks on someone for religious, family or political affiliations? It’s easy to blame someone else for your problems but be adult enough to admit your own faults and try to fix them and stop fueling hate, unless of course you don’t think there’s enough hate in this world and need to stir things up a bit. Some of you are beginning to sound a lot like those in politics that you seem to hold the most contempt for.

By BamaBoy

January 13, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

If the comments are based on fact that is different,…

How about these for a facts: 1) there were no weapons of mass destruction; 2) there was no Iraqi connection to 9/11.

Therefore, we can only conclude that Bush started this war on purpose based on information he wanted to hear - period. It’s that simple and so incredibly obvious, I can’t believe the number of foolish Americans who don’t see through his charade. So I guess the right-wingers will say I’m not patriotic or a ‘real American’ or I’m ‘hurting the troops’ because I’m not willing to believe ‘Bush is God’ and whatever he says is gospel.

Forgive me if I don’t reply to the whinings of all the Bush-loving fascists, but since I have a full-time job which pays taxes to fund this damn war, I don’t have time post messages all day long.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

getalife,

OK, here’s a start:

There exists an air of “truthiness” to the culture of corruption Congressman Murtha finds himself in. His shadowy dealings with defense contractors is almost as troubling as his penchant for surrendering to all foreign enemies…..

How’s that so far?

By Voice of Reason

January 13, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

Jay - It doesn’t really matter to them either way. Like I said, even if we wanted to buy the world a Coke, they would fight just as feverishly. Dissent emboldening the enemy is a cop out and excuse to not answer the tough questions.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this

RW,

Edited version :

There exists an air of truth to the culture of corruption Republicans finds themselves in. Their shadowy dealings with defense contractors is almost as troubling as their penchant for surrendering to all corruption …

Better?

By Jay not jay

January 13, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Therefore, we can only conclude that Bush started this war on purpose based on information he wanted to hear - period. It’s that simple and so incredibly obvious, I can’t believe the number of foolish Americans who don’t see through his charade.

Bamaboy, only the mind of a liberal could ONLY conclude such a thing. Didn’t your congress see the same evidence and voted on it. Have a nice day :)

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

getalife,

That sounds like what the AJC does to my letters to the editor. I don’t see how your version is going to help Mothra get elected, while my version will appeal to moonbats far and wide.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

sicko: My friend Freida would like to get a Cadillac El Dorado, fully loaded with a chauffeur. Who do you suggest that she should sue?

Somehow I think there’s a difference between an El Dorado and an affordable doctor visit…

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

BamaBoy, thanks for showing up. VoR & Jnj, it’s too late. We ARE divided, and we will continue to be divided as long as we have fascist-loving theocrats among us who demand that we all fall in line, march in step, sing from the same hymnbook, stop asking questions, and keep our opinions to ourselves. Certainly I’m not flipping to the dark side, and I don’t imagine the members of the all-star “you leftie losers just hate America!” chorus will stop braying any time soon, either.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

RW,

My plan is simple. If Mr. Murtha is not involved, lock up all the criminals involved with the coc to leave no competition for him to run against.

Murtha for President!

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

Jay, congress does NOT get the same daily and weekly intelligence briefings that the President does. DUH!

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this

getalife,

I’m not a criminal and if it comes down to it I will run against Mothra.

Impeach Mothra!

By Jay not jay

January 13, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

Fine, Bush is a murder and a traitor. Believe whatever you want, present some proof and bring the articles of impeachment. We could argue all day long but I’ve got work to do for now. Have a good day:)

By getalife

January 13, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

RW,

Are you a decorated marine veteran with enough backbone to stand up against a criminal President?

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

kimberly,

Peter Hoekstra, chairman of the House intelligence committee, says that committee members not only have access to the same information as the President they can also go straight to the analysts for clarification.

According to Hoekstra anyone claiming they don’t have the same information is simply not doing the job they were elected to do.

By buff

January 13, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

Sick

There are several reasons that health care is so expensive

One of those is the mandatory coverage our idiots in the Gold Dome insist upon, that was caused by lobby influence

For instance, I assure you that due to the miracles of a urologist’s scalpel (sorry about being so personal), and age, my bride and I are having no more kid, but, we are covered for maternity

I am reasonably sure that I will not need alcohol or drug treatment (this one is a possibility), but we are covered

I am also quite positive that I will not need psychiatric care (colleagues may disagree), but I am covered

Add to that government regulations, lawsuits and people not taking care of themselves, look what we have

Plus, America if FAT

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

getalife,

I’m a lightly decorated JROTC veteran that stood up to (or at least voted against) the criminal that was in office from January 20, 1993 until January 20, 2001.

Prosecute Clinton!

By gadem

January 13, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

Saw an interesting piece on PrimeTime Live last night about people conforming with majority views in order to belong to a group. The biggest example that they showed of this was Germans following Hitler to their doom and demise. Made me think about those that blindly follow Dubya. If you would like to read the story, just go to a-b-c-news.com and then go to primetime.

By JB

January 13, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH THE ENTIRE LEGISLATIVE AND JUDICIAL BRANCH AND START OVER A LITTLE FURTHER WEST OF DC.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this

RW, Jay is right. It would be pointless to argue all day long. You wanna believe Der Dubya is all honest and truthy? That his actions were in no way influenced by a lifetime of privelege, oil money, and bending the rules to suit himself and please his rich handlers? Fine. That’s what you’ll believe.

My point is this: We ARE divided. Your words create no lightbulb in my head and vice versa. The presentation of facts to a sound-bite-of-the-day populous is pointless.

But regardless of where we stand, we’re still Americans. Do y’all want to keep standing over there, shouting and pointing, or are you going to admit we have some serious problems that might require rational thought, and facing up to our own collective demons, in order to solve. Does anybody want to solve them? Nah… just keep hurling feces over the line like Dusty and her crew.

By Ricky

January 13, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

gadem, you are the right the 51 million Americans that voted for Bush are blindly following a Hitler clone. You guys are so funny. You constantly talk about how dumb he is then you make comments like that. If he is that dumb how could he get people to follow him??

By getalife

January 13, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

RW,

Have you visited the wounded Iraq veterans, paid for treatment and gave one of his purple hearts to a wounded soldier?

Murtha for President!

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

kimberly,

Do you think the congress can call on those same department heads to get that information? Certainly you don’t think the dems would start a war without seeking all their facts, do you?

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

gadem,

We are told day in and day out that the majority of the country disagrees with President Bush, so your propaganda piece from ABC should have made you think of the people that blindly follow the “Bush lied/war for oil” kooks.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

kimberly,

I simply told you what Peter Hoekstra said, how did you twist that enough to generate such a nasty response?

By gadem

January 13, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

Fear will make people do things that they would not normally do Ricky.

As far as you RW, Before the majority of people turned against Bush. A majority of people were supporting him.

By Dusty

January 13, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

Oh great. We get a fair minded, non-beligerant, all-American comment from Kimberly. She forgot one thing, donkeys do the braying, not elephants.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

Scooter, you want to know what I think? I think we’re in trouble. I think spending several billion dollars a month on a poorly-planned and badly-managed military endeavor, and carrying a $$ THREE TRILLION deficit, and cutting taxes for the wealthy while sticking the screws in working folks at the same time are ALL bad ideas for which we will reap results which are NOT what we want for ourselves, our society, or our children in the long run. That’s what I think. Do I imagine anyone on this board CARES about my opinion, or the issues I have just addressed? NO, I don’t. I think they’d rather bang the drum and sing praises and pretend they don’t know there’s a problem. (Kind of like a typical dysfunctional WASP family.)

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

gadem,

If people were for President Bush before they were against him, why would you say it reminds you of following Hitler to their doom and demise?

By JB

January 13, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Bush lied?!?!? Clinton lied? What about Bush Sr, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy….. More than likely so. Well if you impeached everyone in government who ever lied to the American people and/or abused their office then it’d be pretty empty in DC. Here’s a news flash folks, THEIR POLITICIANS if they didn’t have the character flaw that afforded them the ability to lie with a straight face they wouldn’t be in office! Murtha for President? I’d be more comfortable with someone who just slipped over the border.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

Trouble at the White House

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

Oooooo Dusty is so clever with her animal metaphors. (applause!)

That wasn’t a nasty response. Not feeling the least bit nasty today. Just grounded in the reality that we’re not going to agree.

To answer, I don’t think that 435 Congressmen get the same intelligence reports as the President gets from the CIA and his other top spy czars on a daily basis. It simply wouldn’t make sense. Don’t you think national security would be compromised if the entirety of every day’s new intelligence made it to the letter bins of ALL those people? C’mon. They get summaries. They get excerpts. The don’t get daily updates from the CIA. And when they ARE told that there is an urgent, imminent danger, for some reason they TRUST that what they’re hearing is correct. So yes, I’ll agree with you. Congress, as a body, BELIEVED that they were being told the truth. Happy, Dude? If not, why not freshen your coffee and give it a try.

By Ricky

January 13, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

Kimberly, so if Congress believed what they were being told, then the same arguement could be made of the President. He was just believing what Tenet and his buddies todl him. If Tenet didn’t provide enough counterintelligence thats not the Presidents fault. He can only go on what he is told as well. Is the CIA dysfunctional? Absouletly. Do I think Porter Goss is going to fix it? I sure hope so. We can’t afford to have the same intelligence lapse we did before 9/11.

By cynic

January 13, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

Considering how many redneck castrati post the stupidity that streams through their lizard brains 24/7 I can see my Uncle Ulysses didn’t finish the job he started. Time to send back General Sherman. He knew how to run a campaign to defeat a little country.

Rumsfled should have taken notes. Talk about not getting over something-you crackers are still angry about getting your butts kicked over a hundred years ago.

Time for the North to succeed from the union, we’re tired of paying for white trash welfare in the RED states and we can get better made products made by cheap but better educated labor in China, Canada or Mexico.

When the oil runs out see how long you clowns can live with air conditioning. We can tough out being cold but no real human being could live in that stinking cesspool of heat and bugs you call home.

Andy, dusty and the rest of the KKK will drown in greasy pools of fat that has turned liquid, and maybe the ocean will swallow you up.

With “Americans” like these creeps who need enemies?

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

kimberly,

I specifically said the intelligence committee members and it applies to both the House and the Senate. Individual members rely on their committees.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

Drunk Ted

By Ricky

January 13, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

cynic, thans for the rascist rant. You going to include Robert Byrd as part of the KKK? You call people rascist, when that is the same thing you are. Just read your post. Why don’t you take your hate filled posts elsewhere. We don’t need people like you

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

Kimberly, you know what i think? I think you avoided the question all togeher, but that’s OK. I can tell you think emotionaly and that is not a bad thing. Many men need the emotion and compassion of their partners in order to be a full person.

Yes we are divided. Politics moves in a cyclical movement as children defy their parents and the status qoe. My experiences, as a young man, have shown me that a conservative movement is washing America from liberal policies.

Bush, in the mind of the left is as dumb as a bag of hammers, but every time he called out the “the soft bigotry of low expectations”, he scored a jab at past liberal policies. It was such a striking jab they had to ignore it all together.

Now their blind hatred has led them to arguing that the Oil for Food Program should be in its 16th year of enforcing a simple cease fire agreement, while Syria continues to occupy Lebanon. In their sceneario Iran would still secretely be seeking nuclear weapons but our military would have no bases next door and some would be scattered through the mountains of Afghanistan. Also under the lefts “ideal” scenario we would have already caught UBL or turned him into a Martyr and we can only speculate if that would have created more terrorist.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

Ricky, you’re right. The same argument could be made. Certainly. Especially if you stop looking and asking questions right there. So um… why give Tenet the Medal of Freedom? Giving medals to screw ups certainly seems to devalue them doesn’t it? Hmmm… Oh well.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

Who appointed Tenet and why are they free of blame?

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

Whoa… Scoot. Are you telling me that Osama is still free because it’s BETTER for the people of America that way? That’s in our best interest? Wow. I’ll have to explore that line of reasoning before commenting on it.

My concerns are more domestic. No one wants to talk about the $3 Trillion and growing deficit any more than any of us wants to admit how much we owe on our Visa or MasterCard. But if I ran my finances like our government is running our collective finances, my household would be in BIG trouble. I wouldn’t be strong enough to handle disaster when it strikes, or to sustain long-term, ongoing needs. (Plus, I now have fewer options for restructuring.) So why should I applaud a government that is so grossly mismanaging pretty much everything? If we are not strong here, or at the bank, how strong are we?

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

Who appointed “Brownie” and why are they free of blame? Dude, see… some of you just aren’t happy unless you’re ragging on Big C. That’s a pointless cycle, don’t you think? Like, if 9/11 is Clinton’s fault, then the ‘93 WTC bombing is Bush the smarter’s fault, then. I mean, apply your logic all the way back to Lincoln, if you have nothing else to do today.

By Nevermind

January 13, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

To those of you worried about debate at home being harmful to the troops, let me just say that the single greatest gift al quaeda has received has been the invasion of Iraq. Perfect recruiting tool, perfect training ground, perfect excuse. Debate and even dissent are signs of a (relatively) free society and pose no threat to our soldiers.

By Dusty

January 13, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

Welcome, cynic, hope you enjoy your little visit to the south. We welcome ANYBODY, even bigots like you. “Drown in greasy pools of fat!” Hey, that’s a good one. Did you think of that on your own or at the Sherman School of Mayhem? (Don’t use it, Kimberly. You are better at animal analogies.) So, again, welcome South, brother/sister/watever. Have a NICE compatible day.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

Kimberly there was more to the post than that, but typical of the left you take one thing out of context and think it knocks down the whole argument. I’m not saying it is better for America, I am saying I we don’t know f it is better for America. Can you handle any other points in the post, the result of presented leftist policies towards the Middle-East perhaps?

Are you saying that continue to whack moles is better for America?

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Kimberly, also we are strong at the bank because foreign investors are more confident in America than you and the dems, so they will give us a line of credit. It is in the interest of the investors to see American paper preserve its value.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

Kimberly, why is the left unable to place any blame on the shoulders of “Big C”? Could it be brainwashing? I see conservatives in here, including myself, criticize Bush on several issues. BUT, if we ever try to deflect some of the baseless criticisms that come from your side by simply pointing out it isn’t SO darn one sided, you and the left quickly accuse us of changing the subject. Is it brainwashing through the manipulation of your compassion by a power hungry paty?

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

I’m sorry Scooter. I’m not an economist. But as the head of household, I know that living in that kind of debt is a financial death sentence. Wasn’t that why the credit card companies wrote, sponsored, and lobbied the new bankruptcy bill into law? To force people to pay for what we spend? To mandate personal responsibility? A broke government is not an effective government, IMO.

As to the middle east, I’d like to be less dependent on them. I’d like to see them go back to hating each other instead of us. I’d like to see jobs created in America for people who want to research, develop, and produce alternative forms of energy. There are plenty of people who want to do this! Why no initiative from our leaders? I mean, they way they ignore this, you’d THINK they have a personal vested interest in our oil dependency. Oh but surely THAT’s not true! They’re much to honest and truthy.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

Kimberly, If the 93 wtc bombings were Bush 41’s fault he would have had to have had a warning of AL-Queida’s ntentions and I don’t know what that would have been. I am far more objective than you and the vast majority of liberals.

Here, Brownie’s placement, in that position, was a huge blunder in chronieism, but the president should not be allowed to use the military within our own borders.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

You’re right, Scoot. I can’t think logically because my compassion has been manipulated. Girls are emotional, you know.

To answer your question about Clinton, I think the massive brainwashing effort by Satan was effective because we were somehow misled into thinking that good jobs, increasing paychecks, more opportunities, and relative peace and prosperity were a good thing. (Gosh, what were we thinking?) This ridiculous illusion was also bolstered by the Republican-mandated special prosecutor who spent several years, and $70 million of our tax dollars rooting through every check he ever wrote for a loaf of bread, and after all that time and money, the only thing he could come up with was that the guy had some zipper issues. Certainly, THAT supported MY ridiculous illusion that he was a good President! Wow. How diabolical and insidious of those EVIL Democrats! Where do I go to repent now?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Bush says for journalists to go to Gitmo to see how they are treated.

We have seen the pictures, Bush!

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this

Kimberly, you admitedly don’t know much about economics but do you think all of those CEO’s were clean when bill was in office? Or do you think the massive US economy was stable up until January 26th, 2001, when Bush was inaugerated?

By Andy

January 13, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

DJ@GT: You come in here and first thing you insult Midori, then you tell us we should all try to get along???

sicko: I started my working career delivering newspapers. It didn’t take me long to figure out I could do better than that, better meaning more pay and health insurance. Are you telling me that instead of finding a better job I should have sued the newspaper I worked for?

Last time I looked health insurance could be bought with money just as sure as a fully loaded Cadillac could. If you want the Cadillac is that all it takes to get one?

Why do trial lawyers get 66% of their verdicts leaving the measly 34% to the people they sue on behalf of? Is that fair to the rest of us? I should be making 66% on my investments, this is discrimination, who do I sue? Where the hell does Microsoft get off making 15% profit on trillions of dollars of income? Is this fair to me? I want to make a billion a year.

If you goofy liberals want everybody to have their own personal physician, why don’t you get off your a-ss, go to college, get a degree and serve the poor and inflicted?

It is so galling the way these liberals interfere with the free market. The united States judicial system or the Maryland Senate doesn’t even have any rights to tell Walmart what it can or can not do. This is the true government “wiretapping,” the real harm done to our nation. Why do you pinkos have no problem bugging people’s lifes now?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

Merkel should not say lie and cheat in front of Bush.

She speaks well, alot better than Bush.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

Scooter, you’re putting words in my mouth to entice me to argue. I never said that. It sounds like you’re angry with me for being on the other side of that line that divides us. Why do you want so badly for me to step over it? As I stated earlier, I’m not nasty OR upset today, becaue I’m dealing with the reality that the line is there and we are divided. (God grant me the serenty to accept the things I cannot change…) Why don’t we all try to accept it, and see in what ways we might be able to work together, or at least move forward, in spite of it? (D - please forgive me if asking that question is UnAmerican…)

Anyway, it’s been lovely, but I really have to go earn a paycheck now. Ciao baby!

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

Kimberly, I’m just tyin to let you know that objectivity is seeing fault in both sides, as well as positives. I told you it is OK to be emotionaly based, cause we men need a lady’s emotions to round out our personalities.

If you can’t tell I am a rather crass individual, its the old punk in me. Now I try to love everybody but I get scared when people I can’t see are trying to kill me. If I get hot headed just know that I’ll blow it off.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Don’t be made kimberly here’s a gift.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

BWAAAHAAAA! I’m talking about paying a little extra so an old lady can go see a doctor and Andy thinks that I have a penchant for lawsuits. Where do you make these ridiculous jumps in logic? Oh well, I suppose your one of those guys who tossed their parents in a nursing home and said they’re your problem now, I can’t be bothered to take care of them.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

Sickof, that doesn’t sound like any conservative I know. Especially not a southern conservative, we are very family oriented. But what ever makes you sick of somebody.

By Midori

January 13, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

ok, my ears were burning.

How are you all today?

Did you see The Daily Show lampoon the hearings last night?

Good stuff!!!

By Midori

January 13, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

And like Mike, I, too, wish Biden would shut the hell up.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

Midori, yeah the speak off, without asking a question, was funny.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

Flies at a picnic have no greater agenda than to disrupt our sunny day and try to spoil the potato salad. Fortunately, the annoying pests can be sent on their way with a little repellant. Congressional liberals, similarly devoid of a stated economic agenda, are exhibiting the same behavior as picnic flies. Our repellant against these nuisances is to persistently tell the facts.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

sicko: How many little old ladies do you think there are in the world? Just a few? Litigation, by itself, costs each American citizen, all 260,000,000 of us, an average of $925 a year. Run that through your little health insurance calculator.

I’m not even talking about what your “few cents” adds up to be, I would imagine it costs business probably a trillion or so a year and guess who they pass it along to? Wouldn’t be easier to just leave us alone and let us buy our own insurance?

Where do you think the Federal Government gets it’s money from? You think they print all of it?

My family sat down, early on, back in the days, and collectively decided that we were going to earn our own way in the world. We would work our way up the ladder and meet all of our own needs, much like the people that founded this great country. I’m fairly certain that the Mayflower did not have a free clinic below decks.

You must be one of those fine upstanding individuals who decided to let the rest of the world get up in the morning, go to work and earn you some money. And you are going to hang with that plan until you suck the United States dry, aren’t you?

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

RW, when Herman comes back into run for office are you with him. Were you an active supporter in his campaign two years ago? I think he could be shoe in. I promoted him pretty heavy here in SW Atl.

By Dusty

January 13, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

Sick,

Where have you been? Did you ever hear of Social Security, Medicare and Prescription Drug cards? Sounds like to me your little old lady would be eligible for those benefits. Bush sponsored the Prescript.Drug Cards to help the elderly with meds. Why are you acting like Americans are throwing the elderly out in the streets or nursing homes?

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

I worked hard for him in the Gwinnett & N.Fulton areas hoping we could turn just enough votes to get into a runoff. I thought he had a real chance if he got to go head to head with Isaackson and he would have made a great Senator.

I hope he doesn’t run for a House seat, I would much rather see him as Governor or in the Senate.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this

That prescrition drug benefit is all the motivation business needs to dump their policy cost onto the taxpayer, what a travesty that was. Socialism in the republicrat party (shakes head in disgust). Then to see those self important boobs talking bout windfall profit taxes.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this

RW, right on man. It was a close one.

For him to come straight out of business and into a close senate race was very encouraging.

Personaly, I would be fine with him doing a couple of congressional terms to launch into the Senate. Time will tell and maybe we shall meet without knowing our alternate identities.

By gadem

January 13, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

Herman Cain is awful, I listened to one of his shows a while back and he almost made me puke with the crap he was spewing.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

That was very thought provoking gadem, thank you.

By Midori

January 13, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

Ga Dem: there’s lots and lots of those clones out there.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

Good Lord we must have a LOT of Wal-Mart stockholders in here!

By gadem

January 13, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Well you know Scooter, I am trying to “fit in” with ANDY….spew hate and get a following.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

I don’t know that I would call using the term pinko nearly as offensive as comparing someone to Hitler. Is your skin really that thin, or do you not see how the left hates the producers and conservatives in general? Your hate and demonization fit in just fine with the left, sorry.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this

Here’s an idea! Let’s have the Walton’s give back just 2% of thier net worth to the employees who are making them billionares, after all, they didn’t earn it, they inherited it from good old Sam (God rest his soul, thanks for the bargains Sam). I think the last list of Forbes put them at about 17 billion, so 2% is 34 million. You can buy a lot of healthcare for 34 million.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

Angelfire is blocking your link. Here’s Johnny Isakson’s contact page if you want to ask him anything, like why he campaigned saying he supported the Fairtax, but won’t sign on now.

By Midori

January 13, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this

Scooter — we learned it from you.

How to hate, that is.

We hade 8 whole years of lessons.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

My family sat down, early on, back in the days, and collectively decided that we were going to earn our own way in the world. We would work our way up the ladder and meet all of our own needs, much like the people that founded this great country. I’m fairly certain that the Mayflower did not have a free clinic below decks.

HAHAHAHA! He’s on a ROLL today! Close your eyes and try to imagine the scenario in which this familiy meeting would take place, and what impetus would produce this specific conversation. That is effing HIGH-larious!

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

Midori, are you assuming that I hated Clinton and attempting to project me as the hater. Simply because I dare point out his shortcomings, while many think Slick Willie walked on water and can see no fault, it does not make it true.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

Rushbo! He’s right. If I were a Walmart exec I would figure out what this extortion cost and fire the number of people it would to save the same amount of money. On their pink slips, I would tell them to see if the Maryland Senate or the trial lawyers have a job for them.

sicko: I hold stock in America, you clown. Get off your a-ss and contribute, you leech.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

I’m with you Kimberly! Like they pulled out the ol family album from back in the day and said” We’re going to follow the example of great grampy Cornelius Andy and take no handouts from no one EVER! Meanwhile, I’m quite sure Andy is drawing a military pension, or will eventually.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

Contribute WHAT Andy? According to you, my money is MINE MINE MINE and no one else’s. Meanwhile, I give my 10% every month to my church, volunteer for Hemophilia of Georgia (an organization for Georgians with bleeding disorders), teach Tae Kwon Do on a volunteer basis and am a volunteer for Big Brothers/ Big Sisters. What, pray tell, do you contribute?

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Sick, how ‘bout this one:“Kids! Jeb, Junior, Kneel! Gather ‘round. Now, Grampa Preston made his money doing shady deals with Uncle Adolph, er.. I mean, the Germans, but we’ll never speak of this again. We’re going to make our OWN way in the world, without taking favors from Grampa’s rich friends. Our acceptance into schools and as company leaders will be based ONLY on our own merits, intelligence, and demonstrated hard work!”

By Andy

January 13, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

Kimberly: You think the founding fathers of this country had a welfare program? You have to be kidding me right? They wrote the constitution and then started building public housing projects?

You jackleg no accounts might want to look at the success of welfare reform before you go off digging into someone else’s pocketbook. Or is that all that you know how to do, the limits of your pinko education?

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this

BTW, any men on the blog who can possibly give a week of your time, the 3rd week in July, this year. I ask you to call Hemophilia of Georgia at 770-518-8272 and ask for Vic McCarty. Tell him you want to volunteer at our summer camp for children with bleeding disorders (Camp Wannaklot). Since hemophilia is a sex-linked disorder, it affects a disproportionate number of males so we are ALWAYS looking for male counselors. You will receive all the training you need. We also have children who suffer from Von Wildebrands Disease and leukemia. If you can volunteer that would be great!

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Andy, take a deep breath my man. A lot of them do work very they just can’t do enough to satisfy their conscience and guilt so they use government to steal money. Its like they think Robin Hood was the government stealing from the rich citizens.

I honestly think the youth is coming around, but we’ll see. They just have to break the strangle hold liberals have on the education system.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 02:04 PM | Link to this

sicko: What Church do you go to where they tell you to sue on behalf of people who work at a company as a choice. You think the people at Walmart are indentured?

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this

You can also go here for more information

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

Actually, I’m a member of St. James Episcopal Church right off the Marietta Square.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

Kimberly Family History: Look mommy, Mr. Jones is going to work today. The only time you leave the house is to go get those rocks that you smoke. How come you never go to work? Oh, and the Jones children have a swingset, can we sue the federal government and get me a swingset?

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

Andy, such vitriol. Whyfore dost thou rage against the entitlement machine today? I wasn’t discussing welfare. Who was discussing welfare? Did a black woman with kids in her car cut you off in traffic today? Did you get held up in line at Piggly Wiggly? Did you get passed over for promotion again in favor of a minority? Gosh!

Anyone want to discuss REAL financial rape? Who got their December natural gas bill yet?

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

err, why isn’t that link working. I’ll try again…

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

Sickof, all of those things you do are admirable. Seems that the organizations you volounter for are privately run charities, possibly with some gov’t subsidizing. Why do you insist government be involved in social engineering?

To get into a pi$$ing contest is counter productive.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

Since it’s admirable Scooter, you wanna volunteer this summer? Come on, we need people!

By Andy

January 13, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this

Kimberly: Read all of my posts. The government sued Walmart, forcing a free market business to pay health insurance. The government won’t let us drill for oil in a wasteland, your liberal democratic senators in fact, this is why your gas bill is so high. Such hysteria with zero knowledge. Let someone else pay for your ignorance, right?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

sickoftheneocons,

Very nice, good for you. The culture of corruption does not believe in helping others, just themselves.

There is no you, there is only me!

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this

Scooter, trust me, the last thing I wanted to do was get into a pi-ss-ing contest. There are some on this blog who think because I wanna help my fellow Americans, I’m just looking to bleed the system. That’s not the case. For instance, if we were to axe the Dept. of Education, I wouldn’t lose a minute’s sleep. I’m with YOU on Fairtax. If I’m such an entitlement advocate, why would I endorse Fairtax. Some things make sense to me and some don’t regarding entitlements.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

Sickof, do you presume to know my plans or are you trying to project your impersonation of me as fact?

By Andy

January 13, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

Scooter: These leeches need to be shamed. Even the EUropeans are starting to realize that the welfare state is unsustainable. We cannot allow the pinko judiciary to start legislating welfare on us. Look at GM and Ford. They can’t compete with the Japanese and europeans because they quit giving health benefits to their employees. And on top of that, we have to hear these liberals whine about job losses. It’s madness.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

How bout you Andy, wanna give a little something back to your fellow man and volunteer to help some sick kids this summer?

By Andy

January 13, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

Liberalism is a disease. These people will spend all of your money to make them feel better about themselves.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

Uh, no Scooter, I was asking if you wanted to volunteer, you know help someone out?

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this

Getalife, remember: godMoney’s not looking for the cure. godMoney’s not concerned about the sick among the pure. godMoney let’s go dancing on the backs of the bruised, godMoney’s not one to choose.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

I don’t want your money Andy, I want your time.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 02:25 PM | Link to this

sicko: You have no idea what I already do. Have you ever worked on a Habitat for Humanity house? Rebuilt and homeless children’s shelter? I would much rather see my money in the hands of my Church than in the crackhead wasteland of the pinko lib federal government. Why does charity work excuse you from suing someone who is trying to earn an honest dollar?

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

Sickof, you were trying to project people in a negative light if they don’t volunteer for the same organizations and causes you do. Unless we lower ourselves to a pi$$ing contest with you, we loose. Right?

I will personally let you feel good about yourself. You never answered if those organizations you volunteer with are private or public. I’ll bet if they are private they actualy get something done.

By RE

January 13, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this

I am just trying to straighten out a few points here:

On the free market, if the goal is to have a free and open market, with less regulation, why would governmental intervention into the right to sue a company not infringe on the free market. If lawsuits are bad for business, then it would seem the market would correct itself without governmental help. Civil law is also a business, why only regulate them. It seems to be a disconnect in reason.

On entitlement programs, if the goal is to reduce government sponsering of entitlement programs and thus reduce our expenditure, why is the scope of sponsorship now being changed to include private church based charities. These charities function on thier own without assistance from the government, so providing more funding to them seems like a wasted expense.

I am just trying to find some continuity in the reasoning.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

You don’t get it. I’m REALLY asking if you’ll volunteer, not out of some superiority complex but because we REALLY need volunteers. Sheesh, I’m asking people if they want to help and they think I’m making personal attacks. Forget it.

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this

Andy, yes they will. It just amazes me they will give that much power to inefficient government and then complain about corruption and say power to the people. What they really mean is power to the ruling class, a.k.a the political class.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

I’m just sitting in my car waiting for my girl

By RE

January 13, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this

Habitat for humanity, if nothing else, Carter did this very well. Anyone disagree?

By Andy

January 13, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

Check out this pinko hypocrisy. There is a whole army of trial lawyers out there that “specialize” on suing the medical industry. The costs of the travesty is enormous and runs up the price of health care for everybody. Especially for the poor. Which political party had a trial lawyer for their vice presidential candidate?

You know how many emergency rooms got run out of business the last several years because they were overrun by illegal immigrants? Who do you think pays for this? The poor. Instead of cleaning up illegal immigration, the pinkos want to give them voter IDs and drivers licenses.

What the h-ell does Walmart have to do with this? Why can’t we fix our problems and leave Walmart to hire more people? Can’t you silly libs realize you probably just cost people their jobs, raised the price of goods for everybody, adding to the burden of all for the very few?

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

Sickof, my plates pretty full and I wouldn’t want to volunteer with you. I have my own causes and people I have esablished relationships with. But, again your efforts are admirable.

If you hadn’t have responded with; Since it’s admirable Scooter, you wanna volunteer…, your intentions wouldn’t have been so transparent. Not a good way to get volunteers.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

I hate to break it to those of you whose idea of a good time is foaming at the mouth about how great poor people have it in this country… but um… Heh…. The poor people don’t HAVE your money. See… the REAL rape of your wallet is occuring at the tools of energy industry executives who are reaping HUGE profits these days, while jacking your bills higher every month. Insurance company CEOs give themselves bonuses if they can successfully deny legitimate claims to increase their bottom lines. (Although Karma is hitting those dudes this year while they continue to screw the gulf coast homeowners. BTW Andy, TRENT LOTT is suing the insurance companies in Mississippi. Is he part of the problem too?) Your health care, prescription costs, insurance, energy, transportation, and communications costs are ALL rising steadily to eat up more of your paycheck. The top sharks on those food chains are eating it. Um.. the poor people just need to put some “food on their families.” Heh… Sorry to be a buzz kill.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

I think you may have misunderstood my meaning there Scooter. What I was trying to convey with that post was since you thought it was a worthwhile endeavor, perhaps you’d like to join us. Truly, that’s what I meant. My apologies if it didn’t come out that way. And I’m shocked, shocked I say, that you wouldn’t want to volunteer with me, I’m a pretty likeable guy. Didn’t I say I agree with you on Fairtax, come on!

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 02:46 PM | Link to this

RE, I agree Habitat for Humanity does god work at giving some people a leg up. The thrifty nature of the construction and land purchase often leave the homes in low lying areas subject to disease and flooding. These are the things I noticed, on the houses I worked on, being an environmental engineer and all. Darned if you do darned if you don’t, you know. Private sector charity is the way to go, don’t give government the power.

Getalife, I’m done for while, you keep fighting.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:49 PM | Link to this

And to answer your question, Scooter, Hemophilia of Georgia is a private charity with subsidized government funding.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this

See what I mean by hysterical nonsense? Am I the only one who saw the oil companies get dragged before the blowhards in the Senate to answer for their “windfall” profits? Anybody wonder why the Senate didn’t exact a “windfall” profits tax? Because it came out in the hearings that “big oil” only makes 5% on their money. There’s nothing to tax.

So why does it cost so much for energy? Why am I the only one who can remember that the government relaxed their regulations on gasoline refining and this allowed the cost to come down? Or how Sonny Perdue cut 15 cents a gallon tax off? I’ll bet you hysterical pinkos didn’t know that the government makes more off of a gallon of gas than the oil companies do. Look it up, you b-imbo.

Anything else I can help you with?

By Scooter

January 13, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

Sickof, assuming that to be the case I accept your apology. I myself apologize for being so sensitive, but really my plate is full. I’m sure the volunteers will surface even though they are somewhat obscure illnesses.

Im stoked you are down with the fairtax, see if you can calm kimberly down. She is acting like she knows all of the nuances of futures trading.

Keep the government out of it if you want to be free.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

This Kimberly bases her ideas on how the world should be on her feelings. This combined with the fact that she is wrong, makes for a very dangerous future for the United States. We have so many examples of the failures of socialism, but these stupid pinkos just keep banging on their same ignorant drum.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

Thanks Scooter, I will.

kimberly brings up a good point. Karma, what comes around goes around. Do good things with your life and good things will happen.

For the culture of corruption, karma for them will be a long prison sentence due to the fact that they write the laws. The money they corrupted will be used to pay for lawyers, but some are donating to charities and may help their karma.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this

Yeppers. You can ‘splain how deregulation of the natural gas industry in Georgia “increased competition, improved service, and brought prices down.” Oh, and you can also explain how you know those oil execs were telling the truth in the Senate hearings when the requirement to testify UNDER OATH was, for some reason, WAIVED for them… (er, ‘cause they’re special, honest, and always truthy I presume)

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

So Scooter’s got a full plate this summer. Any other takers? Andy, gadem, getalife? You guys wanna chase down some ragamuffins for a week? We need ya!

By Andy

January 13, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

Is that what you liberals want, that we all work in the same camp, for the same wage, go see the same doctor, eat the same food, all for the common good? That we stamp out the spirit of individuality and wreck the free market motivation? That’s exactly what you are advocating but you are too silly to see it. People aren’t going to slave everyday, day in and day out, for a bunch of other people to sorry to help themselves. Eventually thay will join the party too. Who’s going to be left to do the work?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

sickoftheneocons,

I am in Louisiana, recovering from illness but plan to move back to Vegas and do some good there.

By RE

January 13, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this

Illegal immigrants will not be stopped by either political party, because they are the future voters in the US. Every year there will be a larger number of hispanic voters, both parties are trying to court these voters and will not enact substantial legistlation.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

Kimberly: Let me try this real slow. The government has thrown a bunch of regulation at the nuclear industry, making it nearly impossible for them to build reactors and generate electricity. Remember the hysterical pinko movie “3 Mile Island.” How it turned out to be nothing? Chernobyl Russia totally melted down, it killed 2 people maybe? Well, now we burn natural gas to generate electricity, which is insane, burning an energy source to create an energy source, and this is driving the price through the roof. It’s called demand. If we put one nuclear plant online, this would give that much natural gas back to the market thus lowering prices.

Next?

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this

No Andy, I agree with you. I’m ALL FOR INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM. Sad though, when monopolies and mega-conglomerates are allowed to edge out individuals from their family businesses… like Wally World has done to Main Street in many towns. See, SOME restrictions (not total) on the big guys help protect the little guy’s right to work hard in the business of his choice and make a living, pay taxes, and care for his own family. When small businessmen close, and they take a job in the town’s new WalMart, 30 hours a week for low pay, they can’t afford insurance anymore, and rely on some form of assistance when they get sick. So yes, I AGREE with you Andy. SAVE RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM!

By RE

January 13, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

I still cannot see how trial lawyers are excluded from your free market

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

I’m gonna say “No thanks” on the nukes. I’d feel better about nuclear power if I thought there were any meaningful structures in place to ensure our safety from both its operation and waste disposal. But since payola commonly sends safety inspectors away “satisfied,” in today’s culture of corruption, I don’t feel comfortable that there would be adequate regulation to keep our children safe. They spend more money on PR firms to TELL us we’re safe than they’re willing to spend MAKING us safe, I’d bet.

By Midori

January 13, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this

Curious: how high is your gas bill for December?

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

BTW, Andy, you totally didn’t address the issue of de-regulation of the NATURAL GAS industry in Georgia, nor the waiver of oath for oil execs in Senate hearings. If anyone else would like to give it a whack, I’m listening.

By Publius

January 13, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

What do “illegal” immigrants have to do with the Alito hearings or voting? Illegal immigrants can’t vote, they are not citizens. If illegal, they generally cannot become full fledged U.S. citizens. In fact, coming to the country illegally counts against an application for citizenship. You might be thinking, children born to illegal immigrants are U.S. citizens…yes, that true. It’s how you became a citizen. Still, that doesnt help the illegal immigrant become a U.S. citizen.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

RE: I still cannot see how trial lawyers are excluded from your free market That is the easy question I’ve gotten asked all day. First, make jury or venue shopping illegal so that you get fair trials. Second, make the lawyers pay damages if their cases are found to be irresponsible.

The industry will police itself. Only fair compensation, which I agree should be sought, would be tried. It would save billions upon billions of dollars.

By RE

January 13, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

The movie was the “China Syndrome”, it filemd right after 3 mile island

Chernobyl killed 30 immediately, another 2500 died in the insueing years of cancer realted to radiation exposure.
12.8 million in disruption of soviet economy

Please read http://www.chernobyl.co.uk/

By RE

January 13, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

So you believe that that industry needs governmental regulation?

By Andy

January 13, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

Kimberly: I refuse to address conspiracy theories, I wasn’t even aware that they didn’t have to swear an oath. Sarbanes Oxely regulations require companies to undergo financial audits (because of Enron) and certify their earnings. Their profits are checked, there are no secrets, unless less you like living in the bighouse.

De regulation was ignorant, but it isn’t the sole cause for soaring prices. China is not helping that issue, they are buying energy that used to be exclusively ours. Demand causes higher prices.

Research nuclear energy, don’t believe everything you hear. Unless you enjoy paying higher energy prices, you brought it up?

By Andy

January 13, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

RE: 30 people died from the explosion not from the radiation. I heard a lot lower number on the cancer related deaths, it was next to nothing. Russia is not exactly an open society, they tried to cover up the accident for years.

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

For you Andy on Chernobyl:

An authoritative multi-agency study published in 2005 quantified the effects. Overall some 56 people were killed or have subsequently died, including the 9 children from thyroid cancer - which could have been avoided. Among some 200,000 workers exposed in the first year, 2200 radiation-related deaths can be expected. On the basis of statistical dose-effect models, a total of the order of 4000 eventual deaths from the accident are possible.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

For you sicko: Among some 200,000 workers exposed in the first year, 2200 radiation-related deaths can be expected. On the basis of statistical dose-effect models,

How many were expected to die in New Orleans?

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

It’s not nuclear energy I distrust. It’s the MEN IN CHARGE who, I suspect, might be tempted to forego the expense of safety for the benefit of profit — something MEN are known to do. West Virginia.. mountain mamma…. take me home.. to dig for coal…. Hey, solar power is FREE once you develop harnessing abilities. Why don’t we have MORE of that? Can’t put a meter on it and stick a bill up my patootie every month, that’s why!

By Dusty

January 13, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

Kimberly, if there is any foaming at the mouth about poor people you fit into that category just fine. You must be an advocate for the poor. Why? Because I don’t think YOU are poor. You once mentioned (forum) that you lived in a NW Atlanta suburb which is not a big poor folks center. While you are singing the Bush blues (your main purpose), Americans are paying billions on mostly poor people victims of Katrina and we continue to do so. But forget that. Just keep knocking and blowing. Not a Kimberly buzz kill though. Just a little liberal burp.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this

“He’s not heavy… he’s my brother.” A song I used to hear when I was a little kid. Reminds me of the things Jesus said. Hey, what a liberal THAT guy was, huh?

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

Hey I’m just putting up an article to refute you assertion that 2 people died as a result of Chernobyl.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

Truthiness : “truthiness�? means “truthy, not facty.�?

The coc does not need fact, just money.

By Daniel

January 13, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

I like liberals. They’re intelligent, caring and generaly witty. I am fond of censervatives. They’re bright, cautious, and generally good citizens. Our nations woes are evident on this blog. The people in charge are like the most intolerant of our contributors here. We got to our greatness through “Checks and Balances” not through intolerance.

By Dusty

January 13, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

Gosh, Kimberly, I am glad you brought up that old song. It has been used by almost every charitable organization. But Americans ought to be singing it now. We are rescuing our Iraqi brothers & sisters from a dictator, mass graves, torture chambers and political prisons. “Rescue the perishing”, just like I sing at church. I am glad we have a strong, brave leader who CARES, our very own president.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 04:08 PM | Link to this

A little gift for those who blindly follow the criminals.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

Good point Dusty. These libs will give all your money to the great American crack head, preaching to you about how great they are to care about the crack head and how sorry you are for not having more money to give to the crack head, but when you try to help a foreign people get out from under oppression, the pinkos wig out and try to guilt trip you on the crack head who’s already got all of your money. It’s a freakin sickness.

sicko: I said “something like 2” which is an exaggeration- v. ex·ag·ger·at·ed, ex·ag·ger·at·ing, ex·ag·ger·ates v. tr. To represent as greater than is actually the case; overstate to help prove a point that the liberals are hysterical, you came at me with “2500” and it turns out to be 30. Did you “refute my assertion?”

By sickoftheneocons

January 13, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

You bring up a good point Dusty. We are spending BILLIONS of dollars to help the IRAQI people get a leg up and NO ONE bats a lash at that but give the people here a little better healthcare and WHHOOOAAAHHH! Those dirty rotten elderly are trying to take more of my money!

By getalife

January 13, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this

And those people on the Gulf Coast are way too needy.

By Midori

January 13, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

We are rescuing our Iraqi brothers & sisters from a dictator, mass graves, torture chambers and political prisons

will you please can that bullsh*t!!!

“we” aren’t “rescuing” anyone from ANYTHING!!

we are the new dictator!!

we now operate the torture chambers.

we are now creating mass graves.

What the f*ck is wrong with you people???

Is it something in the water, er, Kool Aid?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

But lets give all our money we had to borrow to the poor Iraqis.

Sheese.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this

Sharp Reduction in Black Child Poverty Due to Welfare Reform

Despite what the pinkos say.

By Daniel

January 13, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this

Why are Christians supporting killing in Iraq? Is bravery more important than the Commandments? Is the Bush image more important than the word of God? The Catholic Bishops are opposed to this war. The National Council of Protestant Churches oppose this war. You fake are bloodthirsty. When your caring president sends rockets into villages you sit before your TV aglow.

By RE

January 13, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Someone please go behind be and check on this, as I am sure some will. I am fairly certain that more govt. money goes towards the elderly in social security and medicare benefits than to the working or non working able bodied poor. I would think a large expense is also going to illegal immigrants in the form of free schooling and medical care that is picked up by local and fed govt as well

When you charectorize benficiaries as only the able bodied unemployed or low wage workers, I think you are missing out on where a large part of the money is really spent.

Of course no politician would ever take on the AARP, they actually gt out and vote

By Andy

January 13, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Liberal Lessons from Welfare Reform Why welfare-to-work turned out better than we expected, and what to do next

By Andy

January 13, 2006 04:25 PM | Link to this

Welfare-Reform Critics Were Wrong

By Daniel

January 13, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

How many of you bushies who sit in front of youor computer all day are on some government dole? Tell the truth, now.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 04:28 PM | Link to this

Child Poverty and Welfare Reform: Stay the Course-Manhattan Policy Institute

By Andy

January 13, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

Daniel: Feminine hysteria is unbecoming of you. If you can’t understand this war on terror that’s not the problem of our President, that is your issue. Deal with it in silence, my man.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

Andy, seriously… Dude. Are you on drugs? Did you, a man who professes to support the INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY that is the promise of America, did you just tell Daniel, A FELLOW AMERICAN, to be silent? Are you not willing to DIE for Daniel’s right to speak his opinion on this war? Why do you hate freedom?

By Daniel

January 13, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

Answer the question. Explain how you Christians justify the killing of innocent people? Spare us your blather. Answer the question.

By AD

January 13, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

No Kimberly. Andy’s willing to let somebody else die to defend Daniel’s right to speak his opinion. Andy is way too important here on this blog defending the neocon’s who don’t believe in the freedom to dissent.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

Come to think of it, my meds are gone. Andy, give them back…..

Oh nevermind Andy, it was Rush again.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

kimberly,

This is from way back ^ ^ up there, but the oil execs were asked to voluntarily come to Congress to go over various issues. You can’t bring them in under this pretense and then tell them to testify under oath without legal representation.

By Daniel

January 13, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

I’ll check in later. I’m on my way to my work-out. Kimberly: you have my proxy. You’ve got them outwitted. Notice how when they’re cornered they resort to the pseudo-masculine attack? These knuckleheads think they’re the “Real men”. These cowards never served and never will. Ta. Ta.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

I can just see Dirty Harry now, “Do you feel lucky? Well do you punk? Ta Ta.”

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

They won’t answer, Hon. They’ll just attack for your asking. They’ll say, “9/11, 9/11, 9/11!” but when you remind them that no Iraqi women or children attacked us on 9/11, they’ll call you names, question your parentage, and accuse you of being a welfare mom with 12 kids and expensive acrylic fake fingernails. Oh, and their spokeswoman will remind everyone that you hate America, but they won’t answer the question.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

Daniel: I owe you nothing, no explanation, you let hysteria dominate the discussion. If you cannot come to grips with this war on terror then develop a drug habit to soothe your frayed nerves. The rest of us, the majority are going to protect ourselves from these homicidal loonies. Call it what you will. In silence. You are encouraging the enemy you are so afraid of. Soldiers die because of this.

By AD

January 13, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

That’s because they can’t. They attended the Rush Limbaugh school of bombast and BS.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

Rush loves my meds!

By Andy

January 13, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

You pinkos have killed far more soldiers than any “neocon” has over the last several decades. You p*** foot around in Vietnam in a war you escalated, you p*** foot around in Somalia in a war you started and now you want to pussyfoot around in a war you could have taken care of in the 1990’s. Well isn’t it too bad that we are not going to let you freaks waste anymore of the lives of our brave soldiers.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

p* = P-ussy (Why is that censored?)

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this

Andy,

What got censored the first two times or was it the same thing and ml just gave up?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

There is no you there is only me! Sometimes, I can see right through myself!

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

Not everyone can quite see your whole entire a—, Andy. Try to stick it out just a little farther for the folks in the back.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

getalife,

That nut that looks like your Grandfather is going to be on 3600 Seconds this week.

By RE

January 13, 2006 05:00 PM | Link to this

The liberals started the Iraq war back in 1991? Come on, everyone gets a fact wrong here or there but you can’t remember who the president was in 1991?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this

Andy, you are going to have a stroke. Here, take some my blood thinners, take two of these oxys and drink a lot of liquor.

There, know you are comfortably numb.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this

RE, don’t forget who actually SENT the troops to Africa with inadequate support, equipment, or plan to achieve the mission at the END of 1992.

By AD

January 13, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

Since when is a majority less than 50% in a two horse contest Andy? More bombast and BS from the Rushdie.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

RW,

Thanks, is he announcing he is running for President?

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

kimberly,

Nice try, but Clinton changed the mission in Somalia without providing the equipment for the new mission.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this

RE: When did I say anything about the liberals starting the Iraq war in 1991? We won that one it should be obvious to everyone that liberals couldn’t have possibly been involved in it.

By RE

January 13, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this

Do you even make sense to yourself?

By Andy

January 13, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

getalife: Heal thyself physician. I’m not the one with the fried brain.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

AD,

Wrong percentage and wrong number of horses, pretty good for such a short post.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

getalife,

He is going to admit that he has been taking bribes and step down, I believe. Of course he will probably cut and run first.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

Ouch Andy, only half my brain is fried but I do not blindly follow the criminals.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

UNITED NATIONS OPERATION IN SOMALIA I

As I was saying, in a war that you started…

By RE

January 13, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

I thought we won the 1991 gulf war because we had large international support, clearly defined objectives for victory, and a large enough troop presense to be overwhelming.

Am I missing something here?

And, hey just for fun, compare and contrast our winning strategy in 1991 with the current war.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

I am being tag teamed by the blind criminal followers.

Ney is gone!

D’oh!

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

getalife,

See, Republicans do the right thing when these issues arise. When is Harry Reid going to step down?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

DeLay, Ney, hey, say, they, pay.

Criminals!

By Andy

January 13, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

RE: Child, it’s two entirely separate conflicts. There once was an attack on the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania Field and this started what is called the “war on terror.” That other war in 1991 was in response to Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait. We expelled him successfully which fulfilled the UN resolution. These kind of things can get confusing for a hysterical pinko, can’t they?

The Bush family has given us a couple of brilliant war strategists. We can only hope that Jeb will run in 08.

By RE

January 13, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

Did Ney just resign?

Where did you see that?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

Yes, the first Bush cut and ran and left us his mess to clean up.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

Oh YESSSS! PLLEEEEEEEZE run JEB in 2008! Hahaha!

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

CNN said Hastert is pushing him out next week.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I think he is just stepping down from his committee chairmanship, if you didn’t insist on watching CNN you could get some real news.

By kimberly

January 13, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

Bush the Smarter sent troops to Somalia with less than a month left on his term. Now, if I didn’t know what an upstanding, non-vengeful, good Christian, honest & truthy caring man he is, I might think he set up his successor to step in a big pile of flaming poo on the doorstep to his presidency in front of the world. Of course that would take close friends and allies in the military and intelligence communities. But then, he’s far too fine a man to plan something like that. I’m sure he was real sorry to see that mess.

By RE

January 13, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

So how did the attack on 9-11 change a working strategy for a war launched 18 months afterward. Apparently we no longer need clearly defined goals, international support, or overwhelming force.

Yeah, you are a regular Patton

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

RW,

Did fox run the story?

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Yes and they ran the real story.

By Nevermind

January 13, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this

There you go Daniel…one hour later and no response to your question. Not even any clever blather. Congratulations, you have figured out how to hush em’ up.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

Kimberly: Bush fulfilled an obligation of the United States to the UN “peacekeeping” resolution, he was bound my international law. When I say you started the war I am basing my facts on the United Nations being a nest of nasty little pinko libs, just like you.

Clinton, during the prosecution of this conflict, could have pulled out of Genifer instead of Somalia. He, at the very least, should have assured the protection of the U.S. soldiers on the ground by giving them adequate support. I guess he was “distracted.”

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

RW,

Got a link? Lou is next, I am sure he will cover it.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Here you go

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this

The shortest ney I have is F#, or C#-kuk.

Very informative.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

My goodness I like that: He could have withdrew from Ms. Flowers and we wouldn’t have had to withdraw from Somalia.

By Dusty

January 13, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this

Do some of you ever really read the previous posts before you shoot off the fireworks? Do you say the same old stuff over & over because you memorized it?

Social Security goes to everybody who worked legally. Look at your pay stub. See!Soc. Sec. withheld for rich & poor alike. Both get benefits.

U.S. spends billions on poor Katrina victims (AS MENTIONED). Also on tsunami victims. Now establishing freedom in war torn Iraq, a country first decimated by a dictator. That, too, is costly.

Our country was attacked by fanatical Fundamentalist Muslims. We now fight them in Iraq which is better than fighting them here. The fanatics came from various parts of the middle East.

Remember, dear liberals,yes remember Jane Fonda. Few Americans have forgotten her dissent and free speech. THAT IS NOT A THREAT. Just a reminder of how citizens remember people who do not support their country in wartime.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Were you talking about some other ney?

By Andy

January 13, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this

RE: Look man, I’m still not real sure of your mental stability and you are definitely not helping matters. What don’t you understand about us nearly having this Iraq deal won? This is after, if you can remember or even were able to hear amongst all of the liberals shrieking, that we were supposed to have lost 10,000 soldiers taking Baghdad. When are you weirdos going to stop with these crackpot pronouncements? Have you ever thought about aroma therapy?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:47 PM | Link to this

Yes, we are at war with corruption.

Focus people, two down and many more to go!

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

RW,

Slob Ney is history because you say he should step down and do the honorable thing.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

If you were a Senator that was demanding a hearing on body armor, would you show up for it?

Impeach the other Clinton!

By Andy

January 13, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

Dave Marash, the veteran “Nightline” correspondent who left the program late last year, has landed at Al-Jazeera International, the new English-language news channel that will be spun off from Al-Jazeera later this spring.

How will we be able to tell the difference?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

She was getting busy with Bill.

He has discovered this

By RE

January 13, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

poor deranged andy….

he cannot connect with reality anymore. He makes up whatever fact and figures and history he chooses to. Spits out whatever the current neocon talking points are, refuses any responsibility for corruption.

At least you still have the bash clinton and kennedy thing down. just stick with that, everything else has gone from idiotic to insane

By getalife

January 13, 2006 05:57 PM | Link to this

He is losing it and resorting to aroma therapy.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Bubba isn’t going to waste that on Hillary.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

Is that a cuban?

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 06:12 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Bill’s girls do seem to like their cigars.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

Bill is my hero.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this

Bill is one of the best!

By Midori

January 13, 2006 06:51 PM | Link to this

and the Oscar goes to….

By Midori

January 13, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

Republican Leadership Meeting

By Andy

January 13, 2006 06:54 PM | Link to this

Before 9/11, the system for listening to conversations between terrorists abroad and their accomplices on our soil had all the flexibility and creativity of John Ashcroft at a disco contest. Even with warrants issued by the special Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court, the National Security Agency usually had to erase the “American” side of the conversation between suspected terrorists before handing them over to the FBI.

Most Americans think that sort of thing is crazy. But, to keep the frenzy alive, we talk about spying on “certain Americans” — when in reality we’re trying to stop barbarians from killing “certain Americans.”

By Daniel

January 13, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this

KImberly: You said it! The bovine responses from these cowards show us the nations troubles. But, take heart. The Abramoff-Delay crooks will help clean House and get us back on track.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this

“Joe Smith?” says Cheney, rubbing his hands together as if over a fine meal. “Man, he’s gotta qualify as a certain American. Let’s listen to his conversation with his wife.”

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 07:18 PM | Link to this

“You know, we do business for a while, maybe I’ll be interested, maybe I won’t,” Murtha said on the FBI videotape.

“The idea that somebody is going to trot out $50,000 in cash in front of you and you don’t know that is wrong is pretty damn stupid to me,” Bailey said. “What bankers or investors run around with $50,000 in cash?”

Since the Abscam scandal, Murtha has worked to limit the power of federal law enforcement officers.

How much of this do you think 60 Minutes will cover?

By getalife

January 13, 2006 07:25 PM | Link to this

Compared to the coc, abscam ain’t nothing. Not guilty.

They said they bombed Al-Zawahiri, you know the guy who was involved with 9/11.

Murtha for President!

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Did you click to the other story about Murtha’s military records?

I thought we were ignoring those 9/11 guys, that’s what the hysterical libs are always saying.

Impeach Murtha!

By getalife

January 13, 2006 07:30 PM | Link to this

Rick is next

By Daniel

January 13, 2006 07:32 PM | Link to this

These bums are unamerican, greedy, dishonest b*stards. They have always been sucking around our nation. They care only for themselves. You see that in their posts here. It is not about our national interest. It is about their victory. If they win at America’s loss; too bad for America.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 07:32 PM | Link to this

getalife,

This part of your story is interesting:

Pennsylvania Rep. John Murtha, D-Johnstown, was not far behind Mr. Santorum. He took sixth place, with $90,500, on the center’s list of the top 20 recipients

By getalife

January 13, 2006 07:38 PM | Link to this

RW,

Those CIA drones seem to be doing the job in Pakistan. If they did get him, OBL will have to make an appearence if he is still alive.

Getting their leaders should have been priorty on 9/12 but we had to invade Iraq for their oil.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 07:38 PM | Link to this

This part is good too:

When the center’s list is narrowed to House candidates, Mr. Murtha ranked first in both 2004 and 2006. He more than doubled the amount that former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, received from lobbyists in 2004. And Mr. Murtha was in the top five among House candidates in 2002 and 2000.

That’s a good link, getalife. Have you given up on Mothra?

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Maybe the drones need the oil.

By Paul

January 13, 2006 07:42 PM | Link to this

Hey! It’s that time again. For all you little Repub punkos to hit the sack. On with those baseball caps, clutch your pickup keys, into your oily beds. Tomorrow’s a fresh new day of hatred, bitterness, resentment, ignorance for you. You’ll need your rest. Won’t you??

By getalife

January 13, 2006 07:43 PM | Link to this

D’oh. I said if he was not involved. Now I have to find another candidate. I better go with one of the Iraq war veterans, they are not corrupt yet.

Quit reading my links.

By Daniel

January 13, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this

Paul: They’re outta here!

By Andy

January 13, 2006 07:46 PM | Link to this

Daniel: What do you do at the gym? Check out the other guys? You certainly can’t be working out, burning off any energy. Do you sit around all day and stew or do take a breather every once in awhile?

By Objective Observer

January 13, 2006 07:48 PM | Link to this

Getalife & R.W.: You two are so civil in your discourse. A fine example for all. R.W., Look at who did what. So sad!!! I’m out for the evening until my energy wanes. Have fun.

By getalife

January 13, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this

Have fun OO.

This is my favorite

By Objective Observer

January 13, 2006 07:57 PM | Link to this

Getalife: I’m partial to this one. Now that’s a cuban.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 08:02 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

Enjoy yourself!

By getalife

January 13, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

Here is your bunny

By Andy

January 13, 2006 08:40 PM | Link to this

Rep. Ney under pressure to resign chairmanship

Now you have to figure out if that is what the Clinton News Network hopes or it is what they know.

By AntiRadical

January 13, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

Good toon reminding Senate “inquisitors” to allow candidate to actually speak. A little right leaning actually in putting the Dem (Biden) down (guess ML is trying to be more even-handed). Truth is that Biden and Specter(R) both were grandstanding (pretty much equally I thought)during these proceedings. Alito was very articulate and astute; it would have been nice to have heard more from HIM. His wife losing it and bawling was a bit much. If she can’t hack any more heat than that she definitely needs to stay out of senate hearings of any kind. Thought that it made Alito look “hokey”, “cornponeish”, and “unprofessional” at the least, and possibly a cold manipulator able to use his spouse to sway sympathy on the other. His wife did him a disservice by attending if she couldn’t control her emotions.

By Andy

January 13, 2006 09:02 PM | Link to this

AntiR: I was thinking Mrs. Alito saw all of those pinko democrats in there crying and just wanted to fit in. You don’t remember Boxer, Durbin and Voinovich? Let me guess, those clowns aren’t cornponish, they were just displaying their compassionate side, right?

By AntiRadical

January 13, 2006 09:08 PM | Link to this

Andy: Emotional displays have no place in Senate hearings. Mrs. Allito was not a member of or was not called before the committee so she really had no business there (other than as support for her husband, of course). It’s bad enough that the members show their rears so much, as you said.

By RW-(the original)

January 13, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

On Wednesday, two former Alito clerks (1990-1991) who are now married, Jim Goniea and Susan Sullivan were making the rounds in the Senate to tell anyone who would listen the truth about their former boss. Goniea and Sullivan describe themselves as “progressives” who vote Democratic. They both voted for Diane Feinstein (D-CA) and Barbara Boxer (D-CA) in their most recent elections. But their political leanings have nothing to do with the way they view the judiciary.

For Goniea, Alito is “a judge who does not bring a political ideology to his decision making. He tries to apply the law.�? That is why the current attacks on Alito are so disturbing to him. “The most striking thing to me about this process is that it is no longer a search for the truth it is an effort to discredit a man whose integrity is virtually unassailable.�? The former clerk continues, “The suggestion that Judge Alito would in any way be involved with an association with views like Kennedy has been describing is so offensive to people who know him. It is a terrible attempt to misstate the character of this man in front of millions of people.�? Sullivan adds, “The assertion that the judge would in anyway discriminate against women or minorities to me is personally offensive.�?

By Andy

January 13, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this

New toon! Same old political bias!

By Mike Parker

January 13, 2006 11:07 PM | Link to this

Alito in his own words, was not a founder of CAP, not on its executive board, and not an active member.

Is he sure he joined the club?

If he didn’t found the organization, serve on it’s board, or participate as an active member … What did his prospective employers think about his padded resume?

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