Mike Luckovich

By finch

January 7, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

Well! We’re number two! Posted here hours after making it onto the washpost website. Thanks, Mike.

This IS pretty funny, in a bipartisan, secular sort of way!

By Andy

January 7, 2006 06:06 PM | Link to this

“Am I emotional? Yes, my firstborn was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel.” That is what Sheehan is claiming.

Two kooks in the hand is worth one in the cartoon?

Impeach Murtha!

By Andy

January 7, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, railed against what he called the president’s “failed economic agenda that has left millions of American families with higher bills and lower wages to pay them.”

Why would Reid care when he has all that Abramoff cash in his pockets, that he ain’t givin back?

Impeach Murtha!

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 06:16 PM | Link to this

ml, sorry I told you not hold me to that crack about Andy not slamming you for this one.

By Scott

January 7, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this

Another good one, ML. Referring to an earlier post by SIMON, of course he was correct in his short list of Bush, Robertson, Falwell, Buchanan, etc. Of course they are all in the same “boat.” They are the very essence of the Republican party. Their every word and historical actions speak precisely to/for the hatred, bitterness, jealousy, and resentment that permeate that group. Reasonably well-adjusted people who are content with their lives, possess positive ideas, rest easy within themselves, do NOT cast their lot with the angry hatemongers in our midst. The HATE vote has ALWAYS gone to the Repubs. Learned that decades ago as a member of that sordid group. Deeply dysfunctional people are drawn to the Repubs like a moth to the flame. No Repub can EVER win a face-to-face debate w a knowledgeable person. They grow angry, belligerent, and run away. This is not opinion, but rather inarguable fact, history, and truth. Period.

By Andy

January 7, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this

No Repub can EVER win a face-to-face debate w a knowledgeable person. They grow angry, belligerent, and run away.

So Scott, you gonna stick around or… run away?

Impeach Murtha!

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 06:28 PM | Link to this

Scott,

As Doc Holliday would say, at least when portrayed by Val Kilmer, “I’m your huckleberry.” Tombstone

By getalife

January 7, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

It was late because RW was complaining and the AJC got mad.

Thanks Dusty,

I read their excuse but I have never subscribed to any paper due to the internet so I missed their front page headline. Pretty bad though.

Murtha for President!

By Andy

January 7, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this

From the Washington Times, the great big Red neocon machine, cheerleader for the White House, King of Extreme Right Wing Bias in the media, mouthpiece of the Republican party:

Growth of jobs slips to 108,000

Impeach Murtha!

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

getalife,

LOL.. If the AJC stopped publication every time I was complaining they would go out of business.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 06:39 PM | Link to this

Andy,

That’s from The Moonie Times, don’t you believe it.

By getalife

January 7, 2006 06:42 PM | Link to this

RW,

You are right to complain, that was very bad. Try the NY Times and the Washington Post because Andy’s paper sux. No mention of Jack or Duke.

Murtha for President!

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I read all of those and several more on line, I only get the AJC in print. So I guess I feel more entitled to gripe to them since I am actually paying for their news.

I complained to Fox about Jerry Rivers too, but they don’t seem to care.

By getalife

January 7, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

RW,

Do like Babs and write a nasty letter to unsubscribe then post it here. I do not watch Fox news but do enjoy Fox chanel: Simpsons, Family Guy, sports, etc…

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this

getalife,

If I’m going to use the same reason as Babs, I have to wait until they fire the most liberal member of their editorial staff. That could be a very long wait.

By getalife

January 7, 2006 07:09 PM | Link to this

RW,

I read the AJC for the local news about my old hometown. The home of the runaway bride with the big eyes, Duluth and this blog to fight the war on corruption.

Lock up the criminals and send them down here for some community service.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 07:11 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Do you really want that whiny Harry Reid down there?

By getalife

January 7, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this

RW,

Reid is on my list. He did not even try to give the money back. He said it is a Republican scandal. I beg to differ, it is a government scandal and some heads need to roll.

Lock up the criminals!

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 07:22 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Didn’t Harry Reid almost get beaten in the last election?

Maybe they can send him to the Gulf when you head back to Vegas.

By getalife

January 7, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this

RW,

I am ashamed of him being from Nevada. I will not vote for him when I go back. All the casinos out their donate to him.

By Andy

January 7, 2006 07:33 PM | Link to this

There used to be a time when newspapers would use the terms “alleged” and “suspected” to describe a person who had been charged with a crime but had not yet been given a fair trial. This was because of respect for our criminal justice system, innocent until proven guilty and all that, but was also used to keep a newsman from getting sued. There is something inherently corrupt and immoral about trying to influence the outcome of a judicial proceeding, whether you lie to the judge or create a false perception of guilt.

None of this bothers Cynthia Tucker, in even the least bit, as she gleefully appoints herself judge and jury handing down the convictions of uncharged Republicans and acquitting Democrats of the very same crime. Never mind that no one except Jack Abramoff knows who will be charged, Queen Lib doesn’t need details such as these, it’s time to burn some Republicans at the stake.

And all this while cloaking herself in an air of morality?

Hypocrisy-n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies- The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

Impeach Murtha!

By Midori

January 7, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this

REDSKINS WIN!!!!

REDSKINS WIN!!! :)

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 07:54 PM | Link to this

What an inappropriate name for a sports team!

By Midori

January 7, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this

Well, RW — there are worse.

Exhibit A == Houston Texans.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 07:57 PM | Link to this

The Houston Texans are a team?

Congratulations on the ‘skins.

By getalife

January 7, 2006 07:59 PM | Link to this

It was a good game.

By candide

January 7, 2006 07:59 PM | Link to this

For one hundred years of more stupid Americans have been sending money to charlatans like Pat Robertson and Herbert W. Armstrong. Why? Guilt, I suppose. When will these stupid Americans understand they are being conned by Christianity?

Yes, Western Civilization has been hoodwinked by ancient semitic superstition for two thousand years or more, but at least in Europe they have come to see this. In America we are still in the dark Christian centuries.

By Midori

January 7, 2006 07:59 PM | Link to this

LOL

RW — There you go making me laugh again!!

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 08:05 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Looking at your 7:52 post I think it would be pretty easy to make you laugh right now.

.

.

(did you have to bring candide with you?)

By Andy

January 7, 2006 08:09 PM | Link to this

but at least in Europe they have come to see this- Could that be because of the billion or so Muslims, er, I mean, immigrants that have swarmed dear old Europe? They’d better start praying, it’s their only hope..

Impeach Murtha!

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 08:13 PM | Link to this

Maybe it’s the new me, but I think you should go here and vote for Cindy. Give her the award she so richly deserves

By getalife

January 7, 2006 08:19 PM | Link to this

lgf, no mention of Jack or Duke. Registration is always closed. How can I fight the war on corruption when they do not talk about it? Why isn’t Pat on the list to vote?

Lock up the criminals!

By getalife

January 7, 2006 08:25 PM | Link to this

See kos is in the war, where is the GOP?

Criminals!

By Midori

January 7, 2006 08:33 PM | Link to this

Getalife — don’t you think Abramoff looks like Boris from “Rocky and Bullwinkle” in that pic?

I mean, what’s up with the black hat and trench coat?

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 08:36 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I thought he looked like Jack Ruby in that one.

By Midori

January 7, 2006 08:40 PM | Link to this

you may be on to something, RW

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 08:41 PM | Link to this

Speaking of Jack Ruby, Candy Barr recently passed away. I wonder if she was related to Bob?

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 08:44 PM | Link to this

[He looks a little chunkier than Abramoff}(http://www.dallasnews.com/cgi-bin/bi/dallas/photography/photography.cgi?step=View%20Slideshow&show=415&thisImage=6518).

You’ve really got to admire that security detail.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 08:45 PM | Link to this

He looks a little chunkier than Abramoff](http://www.dallasnews.com/cgi-bin/bi/dallas/photography/photography.cgi?step=View%20Slideshow&show=415&thisImage=6518).

You’ve really got to admire that security detail.

Somebody please teach me how to link.

By getalife

January 7, 2006 08:46 PM | Link to this

Midori,

This one too.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 08:47 PM | Link to this

He looks a little chunkier than Abramoff.

You’ve really got to admire that security detail.

Somebody please teach me how to link.

and you thought I was kidding, maybe there is something to these conspiracy theories.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this

Midori,

In yours he does look chunky enough to be Ruby. I wonder why the DNC changed the name on their door?

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 08:53 PM | Link to this

I thought this had already been covered on the previous thread. But now Scott^^has me very confused. Am I a Democrat or what?

By Scott January 7, 2006 06:21 PM | Reasonably well-adjusted people who are content with their lives, possess positive ideas, rest easy within themselves, do NOT cast their lot with the angry hatemongers in our midst.

They grow angry, belligerent, and run away. This is not opinion, but rather inarguable fact, history, and truth. Period.

It’s funny and true!!

By getalife

January 7, 2006 08:54 PM | Link to this

Keep a knocking but you can’t come in.

Why did the GOP cut and run from corruption?

Criminals!

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 09:05 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

We tried to give Scott a chance to prove his “rather inarguable” fact, but I think he used himself up on that one post.

By getalife

January 7, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this

Does this sound familiar?

“I have always acted in an ethical manner.” Tom DeLay “People need to know that their president is not a crook. Well, I am not a crook.” Richard M. Nixon

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 09:12 PM | Link to this

Getalife: You’re like a dog with a bone. I’m sure glad you cut me some slack.

R.W.: One little confused poster, and now I am too.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 09:12 PM | Link to this

getalife,

That’s quite a stretch, why don’t you see if you can connect Delay to the Lindburgh baby.

Here’s the 2004 winner

By Midori

January 7, 2006 09:12 PM | Link to this

Good one, Getalife!!!

Here’s another one

By getalife

January 7, 2006 09:17 PM | Link to this

Here is the new war plan and it is not the old stay the course crap

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 09:21 PM | Link to this

I’ve stumbled onto a new career for Big Daddy, landscaping

By Andy

January 7, 2006 09:22 PM | Link to this

getalife: When did Delay get convicted? I thought the trial was next month? Hey, hold up, Earle doesn’t even have any evidence, he had to threaten the third grand jury to get them to bring back an indictment, what he do, threaten the judge to get the conviction?

Oh, I forgot, you lean towards the pinko side, you guys don’t need judges and jury’s, my bad. Right, it’s like, “Verdict? We don’t need no stinking verdict.”

Impeach Murtha! (After a fair evidentiary hearing.)

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 09:29 PM | Link to this

I’ve noticed a pattern on this blog site. Is this the “laying in wait” to ambush segment?

By getalife

January 7, 2006 09:29 PM | Link to this

Andy,

We are at war, why are you and the GOP scared of the enemy? Duke was wearing a wire. D’oh.

Traitor!

Murtha for President! (If he is not involved)

By Liberal Guy

January 7, 2006 09:30 PM | Link to this

lol Great!

LG

www.LiberalUnderground.org

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 09:30 PM | Link to this

Wow! and I heard waxing was rough.

By getalife

January 7, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this

Hey, we just got spammed.

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this

R.W.: Don’t try it. That’s one thing you won’t be able to withstand. We women are strangers to pain.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 09:37 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

Don’t worry, I have a healthy respect for lawnmowers, and wax for that matter.

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 09:37 PM | Link to this

Excuse my lack of understanding, but can someone tell me what “lol” or “LOL” means.

By getalife

January 7, 2006 09:38 PM | Link to this

I said hello from the Luckovich blog at kos, so they may come over and play. They are at war against corruption. Andy is scared of the enemy.

By Andy

January 7, 2006 09:38 PM | Link to this

getalife: Cunningham ratted out Abramoff, what’s that got to do with Delay? He’s just as guilty as Reid is at this point.

I wish I knew what “scared of the enemy” meant.

Impeach Murtha! (After a fair and honest congressional hearing, this is the U.S. after all, not Cynthia Tucker Liborama.)

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 09:42 PM | Link to this

I had to quit reading Cynthia Tucker. She brings out the worst in me. I will not abide condescention.

By Andy

January 7, 2006 09:43 PM | Link to this

They are at war against corruption- Oh, isn’t that cute. Now that they have a Republican they can hound, they’re gonna get serious about corruption, how nice. You pinkos are all rested up from the 90’s with your ignoring Hillary, Bill Campbell/ Clinton, Edwin Edwards, etc., etc. We not gonna stand corruption, no more!

Hypocrisy-n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies- The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

Impeach Murtha! (corrupted by the punk a-sses at MoveOn.org)

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 09:44 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

Everything you wanted to know and weren’t afraid to ask

By getalife

January 7, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Do not be scared, we are gearing up for a war. There are petitions and sites to go to and demand reform. Yes, they will have their day in court and that is why some are keeping the money to pay for lawyers. Good timing DeLay steps down after he found out Duke was wired. D’ oh! Get on board, if you are not with us, you are for corruption. Sound familiar?

Murtha for President! (If found not guilty)

By finch

January 7, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this

OO, LOL=Laugh Out Loud

as opposed to ROTFLMAO=Rolling On The Floor Laughing My (butt) Off.

With apologies to RW, who is probably having another algebra flashback.

By Andy

January 7, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this

Oh, and by the way, getalife: If I’m scared, how come the sissies at Kos won’t let me post? Is this for my own protection?

Impeach Murtha!

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 09:47 PM | Link to this

OO, BigDaddy does like to trim the hedges, so to speak…

And BigDaddy loathes internet jargon - it is intellectually lazy and the bane of proper English. Or as bloggers might say - F LOL…

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 09:47 PM | Link to this

Corruption precedes the 90’s. I’ve wondered why the sudden address of something that has been going on for soooooo many years.

By ChickenHawk Bush

January 7, 2006 09:49 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON (AP) - A foot ailment forced Vice President Dick Cheney to use a cane on Friday.

“The vice president is experiencing a recurrence of a pre-existing foot condition,” said Jennifer Mayfield, a spokeswoman for the vice president.

Mayfield described the injury as an old war injury, “Dick suffered the injury while dodging the draft during the Viet Nam war. It was a close call but he got out of the way.”

This week Commander in Chief, President Bush also suffered a war injury, a small scrape. Bush is expected to be recovered enough to present Cheney with a Purple Heart later next week. Doctors are expected to remove Bush’s band-aid on Monday.

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 09:49 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy: It sure does leave people like myself in the dark.

By Andy

January 7, 2006 09:51 PM | Link to this

O.K. let’s clean up the corruption. You know anybody else in the thousands of years of human civilization that made a $100,000 on cattle futures? Do you, getalife, newly appointed pinko sherrif, think that Marc Rich really deserved to be pardoned? That Janet Reno was right to obstruct the FBI investigation of compaign finance violations?

Look at all the new posse members, we finally get to ride with the pinkos, lucky us.

Hypocrisy-n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies- The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 09:52 PM | Link to this

OO, with your earlier self-description, you need to leave the lights on and not cheat anyone out of a grand sight. Also, you can leave your hat on…

By finch

January 7, 2006 09:53 PM | Link to this

Andy, just how long do you think you’d last at Kos? Maybe as long as I’d last at Free Republic or LGF??

I’d let you use my Kos ID, but personally, I’m not that masochistic.

RW that’s a great internet jargon site.

By getalife

January 7, 2006 09:53 PM | Link to this

OO,

Because now is the time for reform. It is voluntary, you do not have to participate. A lot of people agree, something needs to be done.

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

Getalife: I agree, there is a need for reform, but it should have been addressed long ago. They need to know we are aware.

Big Daddy: I love Mickey Rourke and Dick Cheney, I’m upset he has a boo boo.

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 09:57 PM | Link to this

finch, does Kos have the same restrictions of being a self-professed wacky “progressive” that DU has?

By Andy

January 7, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

finch: I think the big difference here is that I’m not in over my head quite like you are. Odd, little eccentric pinkos usually don’t fare well among the Conservatives.

Impeach Murtha!

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

finch,

Midori had already gotten the flashbacks started way before you popped in, I took something for it.

It takes an awful lot to get kicked off LGF, by the way.

As for the site, I aims to please!!

(and you guys didn’t give her much)

By Brian Curtis

January 7, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

It’s great to see a cartoon from Luckovich that we can all agree on.

Robertson’s a raving nutball who gets WAY too much media coverage as he dodders his way into senility.

By getalife

January 7, 2006 10:00 PM | Link to this

OO,

Blogs have alot to do with getting people to do something.

Microsoft shut down a blog in China because the government did not like some of the posts.

By Andy

January 7, 2006 10:01 PM | Link to this

Robertson’s a raving nutball who gets WAY too much media coverage as he dodders his way into senility.- Strike up the band, me and Brian Curtis finally agree on something.

Impeach Murtha!

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 10:03 PM | Link to this

Oh No! Now what are we gonna do?

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 10:04 PM | Link to this

Okay, now that we’re all around the campfire on this one, who has the acoustic guitar?

This is really creepy…

By finch

January 7, 2006 10:05 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy, judging by the comments I see on Kos, which at worst are “moderate”(whatever that means) I’d guess they ban as much as FreeRep or DU do. They just don’t trumpet it.

I wouldn’t know from personal experience, though. I’ve posted maybe 6 times. It gets boring when almost everyone agrees with you.

That’s what makes this place fun. The, ummm, vibrant dialogue.

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 10:07 PM | Link to this

Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah! Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah! Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah. O Lord, Kum ba yah

Someone’s crying, Lord, Kum ba yah! Someone’s crying, Lord, Kum ba yah! Someone’s crying, Lord, Kum ba yah! O Lord, Kum ba yah

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 10:08 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I bet you just sent Brian Curtis in search of serious medication. Maybe getalife can help.

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 10:10 PM | Link to this

finch, that’s the thing I don’t get about DU. I’ve read some threads there and all it is is a mutual admiration/masturbation society. DU requires zero degree of intellectual ability or honesty, as the most outlandish, absurd and paranoid “progressive” delusions are given full faith and credit in an unquestioned manner.

I don’t know that there are any equivalent conservative sites that have similar membership practices, but if there are, the same criticism applies to them.

I applaud all bloggers, regardless of political persuasion, on this site that post and defend ideas, as it actually requires a degree of thought that is not a prerequisite on DU. And it is more fun here…

By Andy

January 7, 2006 10:11 PM | Link to this

This is as deep as it gets at the daily kos. It is a playground for scholars and intellects. They spend their days immersed in ground breaking discourse, with an eye towards America’s future. Such excitement, I wouldn’t be able to take it.

Impeach Murtha!

By A Libertarian

January 7, 2006 10:16 PM | Link to this

The only thing worse than a “progressive” is a phony Libertarian.

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 10:17 PM | Link to this

The only thing more annoying than A Libertarian is the reason the man in the cartoon is holding hemorrhoid cream…

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 10:19 PM | Link to this

UH OH!

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 10:19 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Scholars like this professor?

Dr. Sindi: “I agree wholeheartedly with President Ahmadinejad. There was no such a thing as the ‘holocaust.’ The so-called ‘holocaust’ is nothing but Jewish/Zionist propaganda. There is no proof whatsoever that any living Jew was ever gassed or burned in Nazi Germany or in any of the territories that Nazi Germany occupied during World War II. The holocaust propaganda was started by the Zionist Jews in order to acquire worldwide sympathy for the creation of Israel after World War II. I detailed all of this in my book (The Arabs and the West: The Contributions and the Inflictions).

Hat tip: lgf

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 10:21 PM | Link to this

A Libertarian, you little troglodyte, are you actually going to present an argument tonight? Of course not, your entire modus operandi is to wade in late to try to take cheap shots without presenting any shred of evidence. Your act is oh so limited and oh so tiresome, so here’s what I propose we do - let’s take a vote.

TO EVERYONE ON THE BOARD: WHO IS LAMER - BIGDADDY OR A LIBERTARIAN?

By finch

January 7, 2006 10:22 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy, DU’s links to MSM stories in it’s Late Breaking News category, and the newspaper/magazine editorials in General Discussion are quite good, but some comments get hysterically masturbatory (did he say the m word? Methinks he did!)

Andy’s right about kos. It can be self consciously “cerebrial”.

FreeRepublic doesn’t have the news selection. Comments there can be just as grotesque.

Among other conservative sites, Lucianne is great for news, but there again, comments are mostly of the “can you top this” variety.

In My Humble Opinion, of course. I’d say IMHO, but I know how you hate jargon, BD!

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 10:24 PM | Link to this

finch, thanks, I haven’t really explored the political blogosphere other than cursory glances at other domains - I like it here just fine…

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 10:25 PM | Link to this

This is tough I would hate to deprive BigDaddy of an honor and we all know what an odd collection of things BigDaddy likes.

Since “A Libertarian” doesn’t bring anything to the table he/she/other probably deserves this title.

I think I’ll abstain for now as I gather a better read on who really covets this award.

By A Libertarian

January 7, 2006 10:26 PM | Link to this

If I promise to talk about wine and cheese like I’m in a gay chat room can I have your vote for most lame? I promise to also worship Bush as my savior!

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 10:26 PM | Link to this

RW, it’s no award, it’s a showdown…

By Midori

January 7, 2006 10:26 PM | Link to this

Midori had already gotten the flashbacks started way before you popped in, I took something for it

May I inquire, RW.

What the hell are you talking about???

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 10:28 PM | Link to this

A Libertarian, sorry I demonstrated that I have interests beyond me. Unlike you…

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 10:30 PM | Link to this

Midori,

You were starting to scare me with the:

EXHIBIT A==HOUSTON TEXANS kind of thing, but the equations looked so much more like conversation it was a much milder case than the other day.

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 10:32 PM | Link to this

A Libertarian - just a suggestion - instead of trying to define me to everyone and engage in inane comments questioning my politics, why don’t you define yourself and actually, I don’t know, present an argument? Your drive-by tactics only make you look like a nitwit. So p-iss or get off the pot…

By Midori

January 7, 2006 10:33 PM | Link to this

ah, yes — the algebra thingy.

:)

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 10:35 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

So p-iss or get off the pot

and you say you don’t want to win this, right?

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 10:36 PM | Link to this

I’m waiting to see A Libertarian limp away, and then I’ll vote “A Lame Libertarian”.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 10:38 PM | Link to this

TO EVERYONE ON THE BOARD: WHO IS MORE ENJOYABLE, WORLDLY, and WELCOME - BIGDADDY OR A LIBERTARIAN?

Sorry that had to be fixed.

I vote BigDaddy

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 10:38 PM | Link to this

RW, I just don’t understand why this little lurking troll springs wood everytime it sees my screen name. Until tonight, I’ve been nothing but polite to it, but if it doesn’t put the lotion in the basket it will get the hose again…

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 10:39 PM | Link to this

Damn, that’s what you call a “quickie”. Sigh!

By A Libertarian

January 7, 2006 10:40 PM | Link to this

Define you BigDaddy? As a long time Libertarian my post today only said I dislike phony Libertarians, there are millions of them. I didn’t call you one, why so guilty?

And oh my heavens, I am a nitwit on an anonymous blog, good gracious. You need another glass of whine, to go along with another one of your cheesey posts.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 10:41 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

It does seem to lurk in the shadows until you arrive. Some of us get accused of being here 24/7, but at least we’re doing something here other than lurking.

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 10:43 PM | Link to this

R.W.: You forgot eloquent. SOMETIMES!! My vote was with Big Daddy, I just wanted to see a fight. I’m bad, so bad.

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this

A Libertarain, since we’re all familiar with your fascination with my posts, it does not require an incredible leap of logic to discern that I was the target of your cowardly post.

The problem with you is that you are a joke. And no one is laughing with you, everyone is laughing at your stupid attempts to slam me. Is that the best you can do - “glass of whine? cheesey posts?” Do you every stop sucking?

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this

Here we go!! I’m so slow.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 10:45 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

Do you want to clarify whether your vote was for the original question or the repaired version?

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 10:49 PM | Link to this

R.W.: Either or! There was no doubt, but it was just so quick.

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 10:52 PM | Link to this

R.W.: Do you think I should wait around? Will there be more do you think. I am terrible. And then the word “sucking” came up and well………

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 10:52 PM | Link to this

Hey Big Daddy, maybe I’m a regular here but I’m just posting as “A Libertarian” when your’re here.

By BigDaddy the Real Libertarian

January 7, 2006 10:53 PM | Link to this

RW, OO, BigDaddy loathes lurking little punks. The are intellectual cheap shotters who are too cowardly to try to actually prove a point. All they do is lie in wait for their one opportunity a day to try to demonstrate that they know their way out of thier spider hole. And they suck…

What I have to say is, if you’re doing a drive-by, present an opinion without taking shots, because taking shots necessitates a response. Those who take cheap shots and then run are intellectual cowards. Those that take cheap shots without ever presenting an argument are even lower than intellectual cowards. They are punk maggots who deserve nothing but derision…

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 10:53 PM | Link to this

Cute.

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 10:53 PM | Link to this

RW, I wouldn’t put it past you - you are quite nefarious…

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 10:54 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

The 10:52 is your stalker

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 10:58 PM | Link to this

RW, so now it is engaging in screen name hijacking? The last recourse of intellectual cowards and @ssclowns…

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 10:58 PM | Link to this

Alright, I’m not that slow, 10:52 wasn’t that long ago. Nefarious, but so easy to forgive.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 11:01 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

Yes indeed, the “cute” was me but your post got in between.

Watermark:

Bandit: Oh I love your suits. It must have been a b*** to get a 68 Extra Fat and a 12 Dwarf.

By finch

January 7, 2006 11:05 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy, you get my vote, hands down.

A Libertatian needs to learn some manners.

Here’s a link to Lucianne. It’s news and editorial links are sharp, but it’s comments make Pat Buchanan’s essays look communist. The woman who runs it is Lucianne Goldberg, a New York literary type. Her claim to fame is that she told Linda Tripp to persuade Monica Lewinski to keep that infamous blue dress in a plastic bag because it was evidence. I guess if you have to be famous for something…

And if you’re drunk, and you want to read ill-informed liberals and brain impared conservatives flame eachother, and maybe even throw in a bomb of your own, there’s the Huffington Post. Apparently, this site will let ANYONE comment!

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

RW, A Libertarian is a joke. And I don’t know which would be worse - a lurking troll stalker, or a regular that changes its screen name for cheap shots because it’s too cowardly to argue under its regular screen name. Either way, A Libertarian is a repugnant little punk.

Watermark:

Jame “Buffalo Bill” Gumb: It rubs the lotion on its skin. It does this whenever it is told. Catherine Martin: Mister… my family will pay cash. Whatever ransom you’re askin’ for, they pay it. Jame “Buffalo Bill” Gumb: It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again. [to his dog, Precious] Jame “Buffalo Bill” Gumb: Yes, it will, Precious, won’t it? It will get the hose! Catherine Martin: Okay… okay… okay. Mister, if you let me go, I won’t - I won’t press charges I promise. See, my mom is a real important woman… I guess you already know that. Jame “Buffalo Bill” Gumb: Now it places the lotion in the basket. Catherine Martin: Please! Please I wanna go home! I wanna go home please! Jame “Buffalo Bill” Gumb: It places the lotion in the basket. Catherine Martin: I wanna see my mommy! Please I wanna see my… Jame “Buffalo Bill” Gumb: Put the f*** lotion in the basket!

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 11:10 PM | Link to this

finch,

Is Huffpo still open posting? The last time I was there it did seem that no matter what anyone thought they were indeed toasted.

Carrie: A left. Or a half a U.

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 11:10 PM | Link to this

Finch: Visited Huffinton just now. “In Charity, The Rich Get Richer”, they neglected to mention the U.N. How come?

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 11:13 PM | Link to this

finch, I’ve been meaning to take a closer look at the Puffington Host, but excerpts I’ve seen have been so over the top, I didn’t consider it worth my while. I didn’t realize it was wide open though; that could be fun…

And thanks for the support!

“I love flaming lamers!” - (whoever can place that quote gets a BIG prize…)

By finch

January 7, 2006 11:17 PM | Link to this

RW, BD, I registered at HuffPo last summer, but haven’t bothered posting for months. There’s no real dialogue there, just flames. Bu the flames can be hilarious to read, especially (as I said) if you’re drunk.

I went to make a comment there seconds ago. Didn’t bother, but had absolutely no problem getting in. Try it if you want!

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 11:20 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

It seems to be a popular quote in the video game world.

Bandit: Now, gettin’ to Texarkana and back in 28 hours, that’s no problem.

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 11:22 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy: I googled your quote and got some video game site. I’m afraid to go in, and you know why.

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 11:23 PM | Link to this

RW, BigDaddy’s not giving any hints, but that is no where near specific enough…

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 11:24 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

GameSpot:Video Games PC Xbox 360 PS3 Revolution PSP DS PS2 …

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 11:25 PM | Link to this

RW, that’s a lot of letters that don’t add up to much of anything…

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories?

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this

R.W.: Are your toes wet?

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 11:28 PM | Link to this

Well, I think I’m going to walk down the street to the old A.P. (if you know what that is, come on and join me and my buds), since I’m moving soon - streaking will never be the same in my new neighborhood - way too little traffic…

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 11:28 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

I don’t have the slightest idea, it feels like a blindfolded scavenger hunt.

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 11:29 PM | Link to this

RW, I’m impressed. Come on to the A.P. and get your prize - Brokeback Mountain complimentary passes!

By Objective Observer

January 7, 2006 11:30 PM | Link to this

Night guys. Gotta sit in the back pew early in the morning, far removed from the scrutiny of the minister. Have fun.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 11:31 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

The last time I was down that way Capo’s was still open. Enjoy!

By BigDaddy

January 7, 2006 11:34 PM | Link to this

RW, that’s only been, what, 7 years? At least you know where you’re going.

BigDaddy out… (Seacrest nods)

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 11:43 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

Come to think of it that does kind of pin down how long I’ve been married this time. I had no idea my lack of circulation would have such a negative effect on the food and beverage community.

By RW-(the original)

January 7, 2006 11:46 PM | Link to this

finch,

An award for your home town. I still think Atlanta leads in crime no matter what they say.

By Washington State

January 8, 2006 12:39 AM | Link to this

The Repbublicans are not the only ones with a messy house. Here’s a local news release: South Sound briefs

SHELTON

Cluttered home killed woman, police claim

A Shelton woman found dead in her home beneath a pile of debris was a victim of her own clutter, authorities said Friday.

Marie Rose, 59, first was reported missing early Thursday by her husband. Police searched the couple’s home in the 1600 block of Second Avenue about 2:30 a.m. and did not find her. They searched again about 10 hours later and discovered her body under 4 feet of debris.

“It’s the first time I’ve heard of it in 25 years,” Shelton police Lt. Dave Eklund said.

An autopsy was performed Friday.

The couple’s home was crammed with piles of old clothing and shoes, boxes, laundry hampers and bulk purchases of products such as hand cleanser. A narrow walkway cut through the piles, stacked 6 feet high in some places, police said.

Rose may have been reaching to repair a phone jack in the bedroom when she displaced a pile, Eklund said.

“Accidentally, it tipped over on top of her and buried her and she died of asphyxiation and compression of the chest,” Eklund said.

Rose did not like to throw out things and made a lot of bulk purchases. She was small, weighing 100 pounds, and had health problems, which hampered her ability to climb free, he said.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 01:00 AM | Link to this

Washington State,

Not another “done in by the cluttered house” story. Did the eagle have duck for dinner?

By Washington State

January 8, 2006 01:18 AM | Link to this

RW, Darn, I hadn’t heard that one before. Didn’t realize it was common. I thought it was strange that the police had to search the house twice before they found her. I guess they weren’t anxious to move all that junk. Yeah, the eagle had duck for dinner. I must have interrupted his meal because I found a carcass on my dock and went to get some stuff to clean it up. It was gone when I came back. Stupid ducks hide under the dock but don’t have the sense to stay there.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 01:41 AM | Link to this

Washington State,

Maybe I’m thinking of Dean Koontz books or something. It can’t really be that common, down here it seems to be dead people found in the midst of dozens of cats.

I’m glad the eagle ate I can go to sleep now. Goodnight.

By Washington State

January 8, 2006 02:07 AM | Link to this

RW, Goodnight. I have to get an early start tomorrow. Snow in the mountains and the ski slope are calling. I have heard the cat stories before, but this was the first time I read about someone falling victim to an untidy house. My wife claims I am headed in that direction and is using the story to try and get me to tidy up the top of my dresser.

By Andy

January 8, 2006 07:23 AM | Link to this

There used to be a time when newspapers would use the terms “alleged� and “suspected� to describe a person who had been charged with a crime but had not yet been given a fair trial. This was because of respect for our criminal justice system, innocent until proven guilty and all that, but was also used to keep a newsman from getting sued. There is something inherently corrupt and immoral about trying to influence the outcome of a judicial proceeding, whether you lie to the judge or create a false perception of guilt.

None of this bothers Cynthia Tucker, in even the least bit, as she gleefully appoints herself judge and jury handing down the convictions of uncharged Republicans and acquitting Democrats of the very same crime. Never mind that no one except Jack Abramoff knows who will be charged, Queen Lib doesn’t need details such as these, it’s time to burn some Republicans at the stake.

And all this while cloaking herself in an air of morality?

Hypocrisy-n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies- The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

Impeach Murtha!

By Andy

January 8, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

According to a Rasmussen poll, 64 percent of Americans believe the National Security Agency should be allowed to intercept telephone conversations between terrorist cells overseas and persons living in the United States; 23 percent disagree. What is it the Democrats and media don’t get about this?

© Mark Steyn, 2006

Impeach Murtha!

By finch

January 8, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this

Washington State, great (if bizarre) story.

It reminded me of the Collyer brothers, who died in their NYC home in 1948 along with 180 TONS of trash. One was buried, the other starved to death.

Read it here

In one of cyberspace’s ironies, the above link to the NYTimes story is via Free Republic! The Times story itself is pay only.

RW, thanks for the story on Chicago’s obesity. I’m not surprised. Speaking of “we’re number one!” bragging rights, can you explain why Chicago and Atlanta have been battling for decades over the “world’s busiest airport” crown? I know I can’t. Both airports $UCK!

By Andy

January 8, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

Ollie North!:

These remarkably heroic and highly skilled troops think they are winning — and by any definition of victory, they are. U.S. and coalition efforts have rid Iraq of a brutal dictator. The Iraqi people have voted in three democratic elections in less than a year. They drafted and ratified their own pluralistic constitution — an unprecedented act in an Islamic country. In last month’s nationwide legislative elections, the turnout was a stunning 70 percent — about 10 points higher than our own most recent presidential election.“>http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20060107-100825-3126r.htm)

Impeach Murtha!

By Eric

January 8, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

Having that dumba.s, Andy preaching about hypocrisy is like having that dumba.s, George W. Bush preaching about intelligence.

By finch

January 8, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

Aw, don’t knock Andy. There he sits, on his virtual park bench, clutching his copy of the Moonie Times like the Bible, and muttering.

He’s an eccentric but gruffly loveable institution who brings character, and sometimes even rational thought to these august rooms. Somewhere, there’s a TV sitcom based on him just waiting to be produced.

Write on, Andy!

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this

.

Atlanta, before bragging about having the busiest airport, consider that every other major city has more than one. The Vent 1/5

then there is this:

Hillary still has those FBI files, and you fools want to impeach Bush for spying? The Vent 1/2

That last one must have slid by while the holiday staff was on duty.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

Eric: You could not be more wrong. There exists NO, repeat, NO hypocrisy in Andy.

By Andy

January 8, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

Look, here’s something from the “kook” Wall Street Journal:

The Washington lobbying community goes back a long way. The First Amendment says that “Congress shall make no law … abridging … the right of the people … to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”: Lobbyists, like the clergy and the press, are a profession protected by the Constitution.

So if we use the same standard afforded to Religion, that means the ACLU can sue lobbyists!

Impeach Murtha!

By getalife

January 8, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

Good for you Andy,

I see you are on board. Here is a reform petition

Murtha for President!

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

That’s what I was thinking. Eric should look around for a definition of hypocrisy.

By Andy

January 8, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

A fine example of the open, honest reporting found in pinko media like the Chicago Tribune:

Shoemaker said it was because at the time of the 2004 hearings, the tribes that gave Durbin most of that money said they had a dozen law firms representing their interests, the one Abramoff worked for being just one. The tribes were the Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe in Michigan and Agua Caliente Band of the Cahailla Indians in California.

It wasn’t clear at the time that the money Durbin received from the Indians — $8,000 — had anything to do with Abramoff. It still isn’t, said Shoemaker.

The $3,000 balance came from someone at the Greenberg Traurig law firm at the time Abramoff worked there, Shoemaker said.

“Why, this money came from the United States Treasury, not Jack Abramoff. See, it says it right here on the front.”

Hypocrisy-n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies- The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

Impeach Murtha!

By getalife

January 8, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

Here is the answer to the Murtha billboard in Atlanta

In her district! D’oh!

Murtha for President!

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

getalife,

I guess the fact that Jean Schmidt didn’t call Mothra a coward should be ignored. You think?

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

During those slow times when the cartoon fails to be stimulating, you may want to go here, but all of you probably know about it. One may present argument for the other side. Sorry.

By Andy

January 8, 2006 09:59 AM | Link to this

getalife: Could you post the link to where I can go and contribute to Ms. Schmidt’s relection campaign?

Impeach Murtha!

By getalife

January 8, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

RW,

She is history.

While we wage these important battles

Told you there is a war on corruption!

By getalife

January 8, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Don’t waste your money on her. DeLay needs your help to pay for the lawyers.

Murtha for President!

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Funny you should ask, I was just heading here.

getalife,

Thanks for the inspiration.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

RW,

On CNN, they showed all the papers who printed the wrong headline on the miner story, There were many.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this

Just to be fair, Murtha for Congress

By getalife

January 8, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

Sorry, I keep forgetting RW stands for Right Wing.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Nice site for Mothra.

We are currently under construction, please check back!

There is nothing more to be accomplished here, it’s time to immediately withdraw from this web site. Our web designer is overextended and bogged down in a hopeless quagmire. Get our geeks out now!

By getalife

January 8, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

RW,

That is good. I guess he can’t run for President so….

Murtha for Congress!

Impeach Schmidt!

By getalife

January 8, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

As I read the blogs, the Dems are celebrating but the war is just starting.

Of course, the GOP will not talk about corruption and have already cut and run from this issue.

Murtha for Congress!

By Washington State

January 8, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

Andy, You are right about Abramoff. Noone has been convicted yet. However, the past track record of Congress when it comes to corruption does suggest that there will be a lot of fire under this smoke cloud. Witness the haste with which Republican Congressmen are distancing themselves from DeLay. It isn’t only the liberal media that are smelling a bonfire here.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

getalife,

This guy needs to hear from you. He seems to think the only thing that makes a contribution illegal is giving it to a Republican.

Since when does RW stand for Right Wing in my case?

By getalife

January 8, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

RW,

That guy loves a camera and a microphone. Is he involved, I hope?

Just a guess on the RW thing. What does it stand for?

Did you catch O’Reilly on Letterman? They are going to show it on CNN in a few minutes.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

getalife,

The RW is probably descriptive, but it’s also my initials.

I did see that. I don’t care much for O’Reilly, but Letterman was way out of line. You can see it here

By Ricky

January 8, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

Does anyone really care what Pat Robertson says? Everyone knows he is a looney. I don’t know why we even waste our time talking about people like him. He might as well be Michael Moore’s evil twin brother. So who wants to bet on the anti-Alito cartoons starting on Monday. I mean, you know ml is going to go there, when was the last time he didn’t make fun of a Republican? Of course the hearings will show America how many of the left(Schumer, Durbin, Clinton, etc) are in the pockets of the abortion rights group and no matter what will vote against him. But oh well such is life in Congress right now.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

Anybody Ted Kennedy is against (Alito), I am for. Plans to reveal racist and sexist ties. What could be more sexist than letting a young woman drown while you’re busy covering your a*.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

Did you just see that interview? Kennedy looked like he was in a grade school play and could barely remember his lines. I sure would like to see him face a real interview, but if he can’t even deal with Snuffalufagus that’s not likely to happen.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

R.W.: That man takes the smile right off my face. I absolutely cannot tolerate him. He, alone, is the Democrats greatest scandal, and still he serves. What the hell is wrong with the Massachusetts voters. Oh never mind, I already know.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

I’m originally from Massachusetts and my wife grew up there, last night we were talking about that. Kennedy should have been dropped like a bad habit when Mary Jo Kopechne was left to suffocate in his car, but since he wasn’t you can at least see where he has fleeced the rest of us to bring money into Massachusetts so maybe they have a reason to vote for him.

It’s his little buddy we can’t figure out. When it comes down to it, has Kerry done anything to keep getting reelected?

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

In politics, it is a well-known fact that one hand washes the other.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

R.W.: In that I’m slow and not acquainted with Massachusetts, could you explain the fleecing. I am here to learn. You are an excellent teacher.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

I just mean that he manages to get large amounts of Federal tax dollars put into State projects. So those of us not living in Massachusetts are subsidizing their projects to a much larger degree than their taxpayers are subsidizing ours.

Kind of like this

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

There is another story in today’s Boston Globe about the big dig. It’s short and the Globe requires registration so I’m just going to paste it. Gotta get those trees planted on the Rose Kennedy Greenway, you know!

Big Dig. Done.

(Well, almost)

By Mac Daniel, Globe Staff | January 8, 2006

By the end of the month, after more than 14 years and $14.6 billion, barriers will disappear, variable message signs will switch off, and a two-lane slab of suspended concrete connecting the Interstate 93 south tunnel with Albany Street will open, marking the end of major road construction for the Big Dig.

With that debut—which will pass without ceremony—substantial completion of the project will be achieved, and the Big Dig, part of our lives for so long, will begin its wind-down.

More than a year of cleanup and detail work will follow: Workers will put in curbs and sidewalks and install utilities; they will plant 1,000 trees and complete the parkland along the Rose Kennedy Greenway. But by Jan. 31 all the project’s roads and bridges will be in place, and Boston drivers can begin getting acquainted with the finished project.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

R.W.: Better informed now. Maybe Ted should come up with the money to finish it, but wait, he’d have to have it wired in from his tax-exempt accounts outside the country.

Alright, I’m going to be mean just this one time. I am anxiously awaiting his departure from our midst. Now I feel bad.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

Mary Jo’s bereaved mother said she hoped he would not resign. “I am satisfied with his statement and hope he decides to stay in the Senate,” she said from her home in New Jersey.

Must have been a payoff involved.

Criminal!

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Getalife: Good for you, fair and balanced. Fair warning, don’t ever say anything or post anything good about that man or I may show up and administer physical therapy.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

He is a drunk criminal and should have done time on his crime.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

getalife,

This site will take you through the whole debacle

By getalife

January 8, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

Sick whale!

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

I skipped church this morning, waiting for a friend from California to take her to the airport. So, since it seems to be just the three of us, let me ask if either of you are familiar with the RLUIPA Act?

By getalife

January 8, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

oo,

I have a high pain threshold.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Quit putting his picture in front of me, you’re making my blood boil. Was that really a picture of him without his shirt?

By getalife

January 8, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

RLUIPA Act? No, I do not.

By Ricky

January 8, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Not that this is any surprise but Diane Feinstein said this morning that she was prepared to filibuster Alito. He hasn’t even testified yet. I bet you can’t guess what issue she has with him. You got it, abortion. But the left says they have no litmus test. Shouldn’t we judge Supreme Court nominees on their merit? Thats what happened with Ginsburg. And I guarantee that Alito isn’t as far right as Ginsburg is left.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

OO,

That was from RW’s link. I think it is him.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

I’m not familiar with it either, but this site has a good bit of information if that’s what you are looking for.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

RLUIPA ACT - Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act signed into law by Bill Clinton, 1991 I believe. A well intended act with unintended consequences.

It has had me involved in a two-year zoning battle which is now going to court. Fortunately, my “corrupt” politician friend has supported my efforts, but now the suit is filed against the Board of Commissioners, and my community may end up the loser.

Research it and imagine the complications it may bring mostly in the land use aspect. But if you enjoy posing questions to yourself, you may want to ask “Why has the ACLU not questioned this separation of church & state in federal penetentiaries (spelling). Not that I think they should, but it does seem to apply double standard.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

Gotta go, my friend just arrived. Discuss it later if we find ourselves alone in this cyberspace.

By finch

January 8, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

There’s a new poll on how Americans feel about warrantless wiretaps.

It’s from the AP

56 percent of respondents in an AP-Ipsos poll said the government should be required to first get a court warrant to eavesdrop on the overseas calls and e-mails of U.S. citizens when those communications are believed to be tied to terrorism.

I’ll wager the different conclusions being reached by surveys on this issue have lots to do with the questions being asked.

OO, the RLUIPA story is interesting. More, please.

Ricky, Feinstein is an opportunist. Well being, but an opportunist anyway. Give Alito his day(s) on the Hill and THEN talk filibuster.

RW, I remember when Chicago’s Midway was bucolic. 5 minutes from gate to luggage, 5 minutes to rentacar counter, 5 minute walk to car. No more. It aspires to be LaGuardia. Trouble is, the runways are so short, planes end up in streets.

By Andy

January 8, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

RW: Thanks for the link to Ms. Schmidt’s page. It was an honor to fatten the coffers of the “Schmidt For Congress Committee.” I, for one, feel that we need more brave voices like Ms. Schmidt, who was willing to stand up against the thuggery of the democratic caucus and give voice to a proud soldier who is actually serving this country, not some old toadie to the anti war movement like Murtha. And having to live through the national embarrassment of being shouted down by the anti American crowd in the halls of Congress, by those who wish to silence the beliefs of our brave soldiers. I hope my small contribution reminds Ms. Schmidt that there are good people in the United States, not just hysterical pervert traitors.

getalife: If Delay is such the big time criminal you pinkos are making him out to be, why would he need my money for his defense? He should be flush with illicit cash, right? Are you admitting that his guilt his questionable and that he should mount a spirited defense against these false allegations?

Impeach Murtha!

By finch

January 8, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

If Rep. Schmidt’s comment to Rep. Murtha, relaying the message she said she got from Ohio State Rep. Danny Bubp (a colonel in the Marine reserves) was SO inocuous…

Why did she apologize?

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this

finch,

There may be more than the questions determining the results of the AP “poll”.

I have traveled extensively, but for some strange reason only made Chicago once and that was driving.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

finch,

I agree, it was a disgrace that the Republican leadership made that fine woman apologize. I was also thrilled to assist in the financing of her upcoming campaign.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this

Andy,

You are right, he probably is loaded being Jack’s best friend in Washington. I read Jack paid DeLay’s wife $ 115,000 in consulting fees, so they can use that as a retainer fee. Keep following the criminals until they get their day in court, of course

Murtha for Congress!

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this

Then we have the unfortunate innocents of Iraq. I have heard reports of up to as many as 200 of them killed yesterday. So if 200 were reported, one has to really wonder what the true count was. Bill O’Reilly and George Bush define a terrorist as someone who “kills innocent men, women and children.” Am I the only one who sees the irony and stunning hypocrisy in this statement?” Who do Bill and George think are being killed in Iraq? Well-trained and an organized Army? Terrorists? We all know that is false. This is who is being killed in Iraq: living breathing human beings, identical to Americans, or any other human beings on earth, who are just trying to go about their lives trying to survive in a war torn country that was no threat to America or our way of life.

Much MOORE from Mama Moonbat

By getalife

January 8, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

RW,

That exchange with Letterman was pretty good with Wild Bill still raging the war on Christmas and Letterman standing up for Cindy.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

And Letterman asked the big question, Why?

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Have you ever seen Letterman stay that far away from a guest? Speaking of Cindy, here’s another good one from the above story.

America: this is what you are allowing your government to do in your name:

Detain and torture prisoners without due process. Use chemical weapons on other members of humanity. Spy on Americans without a court order (I hope my conversations put them in a coma of boredom). Carpet bomb cities filled with human beings like yourselves. Destroy the infrastructure of other countries. Destroy the infrastructure of American cities. Cut taxes on the rich while pouring money and blood into the thirsty sands of the Middle East. Decimate our treasury. Rape the environment. Et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseum.

At least she isn’t still trying to scare Hawaiians about the upcoming American capture of Diamond Head.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

RW,

I liked when he stirred Bill’s drink with his pencil eraser.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Demographics used in “finch’s” AP poll.

AnkleBitingPundits did the heavy lifting to examine the inputs for this AP-Ipsos poll. Only 81% of respondents were eligible to vote, with no indication whether even those were registered and did vote in the last election. Respondents were 52-40 percent Democrats over Republicans, even though in the last election the split was 37 each (the rest being unaffiliated or third party).

Every single one of the following crosstabs from the poll are wrong, and in every instance the error favors the Democrat responses. Each is compared to actual voters in 2004. Religion: 19% said they had “none,� versus 10% in 2004. Age: 31% were 18-34, versus 17% for 18-29 (closest available data). Income: 15% under $15,000, versus 8%.

Marriage: 56% married, versus 63%. Geography: 17% rural, versus 25%. Race: 71% white and 12% Hispanic, versus 77% and 8%. (Remainder were black, and other.)

The nerve of me to point this out, simply because I didn’t like the results. You would think I could at least point out some fact.

Remind me why we are supposed to take the AP seriously anymore?

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

getalife,

The audience certainly liked that part when Bill drank from the cup. How about when Letterman said anything he knew about O’Reilly was from things he had read? Dave didn’t know how to respond when Bill asked if Dave had seen things that were written about him.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this

RW,

He said 60 per cent of what Bill says is probably crap. I do not know, because like David, I do not watch Fox news.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

getalife,

He’s probably not too far off. Fox News has way too many liberals, it’s probably a wise choice you are making.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

There is a rumor floating around that DeLay was wearing a wire like Duke,to save him from doing some serious time in prison. They are looking at defense contractors ,so there will be a connection to Iraq.

By Ricky

January 8, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

getalife, Duke Cunningham was busted for bribes related to defense contractors.
And he was wearing a wire, are you sure you not getting them confused? And Duke’s were dealing with contracts for aircraft, so it didn’t have much to do with what is actually going on in Iraq.

RW, wow it really amazes me the things that come out of Cindy’s mouth. If she would just protest as a mother who lost a son, she would have so much more credibility. The more she talks, the more she loses.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 02:16 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

She had some credibility when she first started out, now I think she is just a pawn of moveon and Michael Moore

By Ricky

January 8, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

RW, I agree. She has become the spokesman for the far left

By Midori

January 8, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

and the “far left” isn’t entitled to a “spokesman”?

Where have I heard this over and over again?

Word for word. Over and over again.

She had some credibility when she first started out, now I think she is just a pawn of moveon and Michael Moore

By getalife

January 8, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

Do you remember how Tom always took the high moral stance on the issues? Now look at him. There is going to be a GOP conference for new leadership and hope they have enough morals to address corruption. I doubt it, but right now the GOP is a culture of corruption and business as usual.

By Midori

January 8, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

Getalife: an excellent read

By getalife

January 8, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

Thanks Midori,

That is the same crap I have been reading except for this : “Jack was sort of like a drug dealer,” said the former staffer. “He’d give them [DeLay’s staffers] a little taste and then get them hooked.”

Disgusting criminals. The K street project needs to be shut down completely.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Shouldn’t the “spokesman of the far left” appreciate their words being taken to as many people as possible?

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You should really read this story Andy linked earlier. Lobbyists are protected by the first amendment, Congress can’t just shut them down.

By Andy

January 8, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

This whole sordid Abramoff affair is starting to become the perfect little microcosm of American politics: When Republicans are questioned about their involvement, they do the honorable thing; resign their positions or step down from their posts. When a democrat is confronted with evidence they immediately start to dissemble and lie like 3 year old children- Why, I have no idea how that great big wad of cash got into my pocket. The dog must have put it there. And of course the pinko media is perfectly cool with whatever excuse comes their way, as long as it wasn’t from the mouth of a Conservative; Oh Mr. Reid, that sucks, I hate when that happens. Delay is going down, down I tell you!

It’s just further proof of how hopeless and benign the pinkos in America have become. Their only hope is that the Republicans do something wrong and that they don’t get caught up in it too.

Hypocrisy-n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies- The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

Impeach Murtha!

By Andy

January 8, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this

Hey Candide: While I was in Church today I said a little prayer for your soul. As soon as I got your name out, I heard this loud screeching in the back of my mind and this horrible, Gothic rendition of the Exorcist theme music. All of this caused me to then start praying for my soul. Some one up there doesn’t like you.

Impeach Murtha!

By getalife

January 8, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Thank you, I was starting to believe the Republicans cut and ran on this issue. Keep following the criminals.

Murtha for Congress!

By Ricky

January 8, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

getalife, I don’t buy into the “culture of corruption” that lefty Pelosi is tyring to hang on the Republicans. Is DeLay guilty? I don’t know. We will find out at his trial. Should he have resigned his post? Yes he should have. Since we are on the topic of bribery and quid pro quo, I wonder why Clinton was never investigated for his pardon of Marc Rich after his ex-wife gave several million for the Clinton library shortly before her husband was pardoned?

By Ricky

January 8, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

Midori, the far left can have as many spokesmen as they want. The have several in fact, Sheehan, Mike Moore, George Clooney, Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, etc. My point was Sheehan would be taken more seriously if she wouldn’t say some of the outrageous things she has said.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

I remember theStar report and the time and money spent to get Clinton out. He was in power then but this is now. I disagree, there is a culture of corruption in power now and I would like to see a report like one done on Clinton to see what happens, just to be fair.

By Ricky

January 8, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

getalife, I am not saying I don’t believe there is corruption in Congress, there is. I just don’t believe it is rampant in either party. Maybe some of the leaders yes, but not most of the rank and file. We need to get ahold of the lobbyists. There are 16,000 for goodness sake. That is the start. Then we need to punish those Congressmen that are found guilty. Throw them in jail.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

Good for you Ricky,

I agree, now can you get Andy on board? Just kidding. Lobbyist reform would be great.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 04:36 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

What do you propose to do to the 16,000 lobbyists without violating the first amendment right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances?

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

getalife,

While you are crusading against corruption maybe you can put out a call to release this report

Durbin has declaimed his desire to look into the state of our “individual rights and liberties.” No agency of the federal government has more power to infringe on our rights and liberties than the IRS. Surely Durbin should be held accountable for suppressing this report. There are no legitimate grounds for not publicizing it in its entirety. The reports of every other Independent Counsel have been published in full, save for brief sections containing classified materials. Gutting a report of 120 pages of detailed government wrongdoing goes too far. Are Safire’s investigative reporters ready to pounce? Will Frist and Hastert rise to their responsibilities? Civil libertarians throughout the country should take note and so should historians.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Now’s your chance lgf registration is open.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

RW,

Here is an idea for the 16,000 lobbyist. Let them write emails like the rest of us. No cash perks.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Look I’m basically on your side here, but many of what we call lobbyists are lawyers and various industry experts that have to be able to understand law as written and legislation that is in the works, to protect their clients interests.

It’s not the same thing as you or I writing an e-mail because we didn’t like Motha saying we should surrender.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

RW,

Government was set up for the people, not the lawyers protecting their clients interests.

Thats the problem.

By Andy

January 8, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

It is not clear how many (if any) solons will wind up in jail because of their friendship with Abramoff. Bribery is very hard to prove. Congressman Ney, identified in Abramoff’s indictment as “Representative #1,” says he was duped into performing favors for Abramoff’s clients. “Members of Congress are constantly raising and receiving money all the time, and they also perform official acts,” says Ney’s lawyer, Mark Tuohey.

“Tom DeLay is not concerned that Mr. Abramoff is cooperating. He urges everyone involved to cooperate in the investigation and to tell the truth.” Most of the influence peddling on Capitol Hill is perfectly legal: money funneled through charitable foundations or political-action committees.

If even PMSNBC is raising doubts, these dudes are going to walk.

Impeach Murtha!

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this

I guess they are in full swarm this week.

Belafonte led a delegation of Americans including actor Danny Glover, Princeton University scholar Cornel West and farmworker advocate Dolores Huerta that met the Venezuelan president for more than six hours late Saturday and attended his television and radio broadcast on Sunday.

“No matter what the greatest tyrant in the world, the greatest terrorist in the world, George W Bush says, we’re here to tell you: Not hundreds, not thousands, but millions of the American people… support your revolution,” Belafonte told Mr Chavez during the broadcast.

Full story, if ml is allowing ozzie sites now

By Ricky

January 8, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

RW, I don’t propose we get rid of all the lobbyist. We just need to make sure there isn’t bribery and coercion. Make the lobbyist show who they gave money to and how much. Make them show who they are lobbying for and where the money is coming from. It shouldn’t be that hard.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

It seems to me that any new regulations or disclosure legislation should put the onus on the Congress not on the lobbyists. Either would accomplish the goal, but one would put the heat on our elected officials the other is more Government control of private business.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this

Some people have Jack Abramoff ties and others just don’t know.

In fact, Democratic Party officials said they knew nothing about the man who law enforcement officials tell ABC News is Bing’s friend and business partner Dominic Montemarano, a New York Mafia figure currently in federal prison on racketeering charges.

A story once posted by ABC

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this

Getalife: Maybe this:

First amendment right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances?

is one of those laws that has resulted in unintended consequences. Lots of those out there, but the consequences are a result of mankind’s nature, not the intent of the law.

Keep in mind, presumed innocent until proven guilty. I know you would want that applied if it were you in the hot seat.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 07:27 PM | Link to this

Well, my corruption tour has come to an end. It is getting really ugly in the blog world and a lot of people are very upset. The ball is rolling and hopefully something good will come of it but I fear it will be business as usual.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

Getalife: I regret to say, you are probably right about the business as usual part.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 07:34 PM | Link to this

OO,

Good luck on your zoning issue. I hope you win.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 07:40 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You’re back, did you sign up at lgf?

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 07:47 PM | Link to this

Getalife: Thanks, I’ve already won on two separate petitions, but one is pending litigation.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 07:57 PM | Link to this

RW,

No, they were not discussing Jack.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You don’t have to post now, but registration is open so you can sign up and post when they are talking about what you want to. The open threads go into all kinds of topics.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 08:05 PM | Link to this

Getalife: Keep your eye on the prize

By getalife

January 8, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

RW,

Yes, I saw that. They were talking about their cats on the open thread.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 08:09 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Tell them about the cat OO just sent you.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this

OO,

You must be a mind reader. How did you know I was going to say something about cats?

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this

Getalife: You of all people should know we are soul mates. You and me, remember!

By getalife

January 8, 2006 08:17 PM | Link to this

OO,

You must have ESP, can you read minds through a computer screen?

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 08:23 PM | Link to this

Getalife: Well, tell me, what were you going to say about cats?

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 08:24 PM | Link to this

getalife,

This is more than just a cat story and from our very own “foreign devil”.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 08:26 PM | Link to this

OO,

That they were talking about cats at the lgf blog. I am more of a dog man myself.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 08:31 PM | Link to this

Getalife: Found another site eh! Well don’t forget your good friends back here. If the topic is cats over there, it may be nice to take a break from this conflict. BTW, my dog’s name is “Buddy” a mutt. Nothing fancy for me!

By getalife

January 8, 2006 08:32 PM | Link to this

RW,

……and they’re playing the Abramoff thing for all its worth.

That is the discussion on corruption over there.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 08:33 PM | Link to this

getalife,

What are they saying?

By getalife

January 8, 2006 08:35 PM | Link to this

OO,I had a rottweiler named Vlad and then a black lab pit bull mix named Rock and a German Shepherd named Ruby.

By Midori

January 8, 2006 08:37 PM | Link to this

hahahahaha

By getalife

January 8, 2006 08:38 PM | Link to this

RW,

I did not look too long, but not much on Jack. They are friendly with one another.

By finch

January 8, 2006 08:43 PM | Link to this

RW, thanks for the stuff on the AP-Ipsos poll. Interesting. Seems it was more than just the phrasing of questions that influenced results. Looking at the breakdown though, it appears the poll was of citizens overall, and wasn’t weighted toward voters. I wouldn’t say this makes the poll statistically flawed, but it does pose some questions.

Since voters elect the officials who set policy, it’s arguable that the opinions of non-voters in such surveys shouldn’t be counted at all, or at least given less substance.

Which leads one to conclude that if (hypothetically speaking, of course) a majority of Americans oppose wiretaps, Bush, the Iraq war, etc., but don’t bother to vote, then what the HELL are they b!tch!ng about?

Furthermore, I’ve barked here repeatedly that the reason there are so few conservative newspapers in the US is because libs buy papers but cons don’t.

But all sorts of studies conclude that while libs read papers, they don’t vote. Cons, on the other hand, do vote, and probably don’t care that their fingers arent ink stained.

Bottom line is, it doesn’t matter who wins the arguments, it’s who wins the elections.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this

getalife,

That’s one reason it’s more fun here. They get some heated discussions on some other subjects, but not usually ones I’m interested in.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 08:54 PM | Link to this

RW,

Yes, it is more fun here.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 09:02 PM | Link to this

finch,

My questions would be A) Why are news services creating their own news by doing polls? and B) What moonbat crystal ball do they use to decide they should over sample Democrats or people that are more likely to side with the Democrat position?

I’m guessing they use the same absurd theory you are using to determine that there are news reading hoards of Democrats just waiting to be led to the polls. Maybe the paper could print a map, but they will have to print it in the gossip section and claim the latest “Benifer” will be there signing autographs.

And, btw (or by the way in case BigDaddy is around) when I say “absurd theories” it means the same thing as you saying “all sorts of studies.”

Having said all that, I hope Democrats continue to operate under this false premise instead of coming to their senses. I wonder how many more elections they will claim were stolen, before they realize nobody is listening?

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 09:03 PM | Link to this

Getalife: Are you sure you aren’t afraid of something? Those are some bad-a* dogs you have owned. Mine is a sweetheart.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 09:06 PM | Link to this

OO,

My dogs are spoiled like children. All bark and no bite, all they want is lots of loving and attention.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 09:08 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I think I might have spotted “buff” yesterday. Huge yellow Ford pickup with LSU decorations all over it.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 09:10 PM | Link to this

Getalife: Mine too, but I have no doubt that if anyone were to break in, I would have to fight to the death to save Buddy, instead of the other way around. Actually, he was stolen from someone who abused him, so I guess he has been humbled.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 09:11 PM | Link to this

RW,

Where is buff? He must still be celebrating LSU’s big win.

By getalife

January 8, 2006 09:13 PM | Link to this

OO,

Sorry to hear that. Why would someone abuse a dog?

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 09:18 PM | Link to this

Getalife: The same reason people abuse one another I guess. Feelings of inadequacy, inability to cope resulting in frustration. I could go on and on with the psychobabble, but I have laundry waiting for me. Yuk!

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 09:19 PM | Link to this

I have a great Rat named “Butterscotch”, but I don’t think she would be much help in a break-in.

finch,

Funny that you mention the poll wasn’t statistically flawed, did you see this in the story?

A first-year student in statistics would be flunked for turning in poll results as obviously bad as this AP-Ipsos poll. Yet thousands of articles will appear in all media, across the nation and the world in the next few days, based on this poll.

At the very least, the AP should withdraw the poll and apologize for it. At worst, those who purchase the “news� services of AP should demand their money back.

John_Armor@aya.yale.edu

Do you think Yale is branching out by selling E-mail services?

By getalife

January 8, 2006 09:20 PM | Link to this

OO,

Yes, I am beat. I will talk to ya’ll later.

By finch

January 8, 2006 09:30 PM | Link to this

RW, the AP story on the poll I linked to was in the Savannah Morning News, which said nothing about polling voters, so in that sense the story didn’t misrepresent the poll, which (according to the links you provided) never misrepresented its sampling base.

The “ankle biting” link you provided is a bit disingenuous in that respect, since given its parameters, the poll neither oversampled Democrats nor undersampled voters.

Chasing and citing poll numbers is a bipartisan obsession, too. You can’t hang that on liberals, since the WSJ and Forbes, among others, can get just as survey happy. That doesn’t make it right, but they do.

That being said, I can see why you hope Democrats “never come to their senses”. If I were in your shoes, I’d be hoping the same thing.

But back on topic. You’re right about lobbyists. Some may be odious, but it’s constituionally protected activity. It’s the lawmakers who have to be reined in.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 09:39 PM | Link to this

finch,

I’ve been especially fond of [this poll.[(http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/president/)

That Daily Mirror headline about 59,000,000 Americans being so dumb makes so much more sense now.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 09:42 PM | Link to this

I might start paying attention to the direction of my brackets one of these days.

I’ve been especially fond of this poll.

By finch

January 8, 2006 09:50 PM | Link to this

RW,

Yeah, I’m sometimes bracket challenged, too.

And I can’t argue over the parameters of that particular poll.

By Jay not jay

January 8, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

Most people could probably agree that most polls are not a good litmus (hate that term but it applies) test of American opinion. It’s funny how on a poll if the #s change all of a sudden, say +/-6%, when the margin for error is +/-4%, can cause the the media to go off the deep end.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 09:57 PM | Link to this

finch,

I bet there are a few politicians squirming, but for the most they love seeing story after story about lobbyists being the problem. Then they can save the day. I think your neighbor already has a proposal in, God help us.

By Ricky

January 8, 2006 09:57 PM | Link to this

Who wants to bet that ml’s next cartoon is about Alito?

By Midori

January 8, 2006 09:57 PM | Link to this

GO BUSH/CHENEY!!

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 10:00 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

Why don’t we just bet on whether the sun is going to come up.

By Ricky

January 8, 2006 10:03 PM | Link to this

RW, I love Supreme Court nominee hearings because it is when Dems are at their most hypocritical and for some reason they don’t understand that the American people see right through it.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 10:04 PM | Link to this

Midori,

With a record like that, I bet President Bush will choose not to run again. Thanks for the link!

By Jay not jay

January 8, 2006 10:05 PM | Link to this

Sorry, no disrepect for the families of the coal mine tragedy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he scribbled Bush pushing down an ACME dynamite plunger on a coal mine…

By Ricky

January 8, 2006 10:07 PM | Link to this

Yeah, I am suprised that ml hasn’t tried to blame Bush for the coal mine disaster yet.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 10:13 PM | Link to this

Jay not jay,

There was someone on Hannity and Colmes the other night that did blame the President. He said it was a product of Bush’s lack of concern for mine safety.

However after talking to the reporter yesterday about the mine story and it’s development I think they would like this one to go away.

By Jay not jay

January 8, 2006 10:19 PM | Link to this

I did not see that, but it wouldn’t surprise me. I guess Lucko has has a wheel of top “2“‘s for the day and spins it for the pick.

By Washington State

January 8, 2006 10:22 PM | Link to this

I need some information on the K Street project and exactly what DeLay’s involvement is.

By AntiRadical

January 8, 2006 10:25 PM | Link to this

Pat Robertson certainly married the words “business” and “religion”. I’m just amazed that his fellow televangelist phonies, Baker (both Jim and Tammy Faye), and Jimmy Swaggert, have been back on the air for years raking in the dough (Swaggert never even left). Was amused when I saw Jim Baker just the other day selling (oops, “taking donations for”) some kind of vitamin crud that, of course, had been annointed and had some kind of special snake oil properties. “God must love fools; he made so many of them!”

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 10:25 PM | Link to this

Alright, ml, as a topic, leaves one wanting. R.W., back to what I mentioned earlier in the day, RLUIPA ACT. coming to a neighborhood (house) near you

Write your representatives to oppose. Time is of the essence for me.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 10:26 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

MSNBC is running Meet the Press now and of course Schumer is on. I wish someone during the hearings would ask, “Judge Alito to follow up on Senator Schumer’s question about a right to privacy, what is your view of stealing someone’s Social Security number to obtain their credit report?”

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 10:33 PM | Link to this

Washington State: This was an informative link earlier on K Street

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 10:41 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

I’m not sure this is the forum to go into much detail, but without it I’m not sure what you need.

If you have a pressing and immediate problem in a local situation the heat needs to be put there. Writing Congress to oppose the bill won’t carry much weight, from an unaffected party it will look more like a spam program unless the bill is up for renewal. Is it?

In your link it says the law is unconstitutional and the post is almost three years old. If there is a Supreme Court challenge ahead, one that is already working it’s way through the courts, maybe we could write to Senate members now with the Supreme Court in the spotlight.

By Jay not jay

January 8, 2006 10:55 PM | Link to this

Anti, your televangelist bs doesn’t hold water, ok.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 10:58 PM | Link to this

R.W.: You take me too seriously. It may be four years old, but the law still stands and is being used against us in our zoning. Just think everybody should be aware.

I am pretty certain that a case has not gotten to the Supreme Court yet. The kicker is that a group called The Becket Fund argues these cases for the church, if the County loses, they are responsible for paying, not only their own legal expenses (my tax dollars), but the church’s legal expenses as well (my tax dollars). That money goes back into The Becket Fund so that they can take another case to court in the future. I’m paying to undermine my own property rights.

This is outrageous to me. Thank you Bill Clinton.

By finch

January 8, 2006 11:00 PM | Link to this

OO, I had no idea what RLUIPA was until today. Never heard of it. But from what I’ve read so far here (good link! Old, but good), I’d say it totally sucks. I’m for freedom of religion and all, BUT…

Good luck.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 11:10 PM | Link to this

Finch: The freedom of religion is supported by me as well. This is another one of those laws which results in unintended consequences. I don’t live in the city like all of you. I am on 3 acres outside the metro area. There are two houses within 1/2 mile of mine which have filed for this zoning.

I have appeared on 4 separate occasions on the house across the road. It has been denied, but they are pursuing legal action based on this law. The pastor informed me that I (we) were violating their civil rights. He may as well have said “screw you” and your civil rights.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

I think if you’ve appeared on the house across the road on four separate occasions you should be declared some sort of religious shrine and it should end there.

Failing that, claiming to be offended seems to work regardless of the law.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 11:33 PM | Link to this

This type of law puts me at odds with myself. If they win, I’ll welcome them to the neighborhood. How do you pray to God that his church not be held in the house across the road.

I’m gone.

By Objective Observer

January 8, 2006 11:37 PM | Link to this

Oops! I just got your funny (slow). Well, now I’m gone and smiling. Thanks.

By RW-(the original)

January 8, 2006 11:57 PM | Link to this

Could it be that the other driver was Gray Davis?

By Andy

January 9, 2006 05:14 AM | Link to this

It’s not just that the Democrats don’t have a policy to fight and win the war. They take pride in that lack. More than four years after 9-11 their party chairman proclaims it is not their duty to offer an alternative to what President Bush is doing. It’s not just that they have no moral values or core principles to guide them other than an overwhelming desire to retake the White House. The Democratic Party is dominated by people who do not believe America is worth fighting for, do not support our troops and see enemies only in the White House, not abroad. Let’s not call them names. Let’s shame them publicly, and relentlessly reveal them for what they are.

Impeach Murtha!

By candide

January 9, 2006 05:39 AM | Link to this

Maybe Jacko Abramoff would chip in and buy Pat Robertson a mullah’s outfit.

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 07:11 AM | Link to this

Well, the Alito hearings should be interesting today. I imagine that it is going to get pretty testy in that room. I always find it amusing when the Senators spend more time talking than they do asking questions of the nominee, which is of course the whole point of the hearings in the first place.

By Andy

January 9, 2006 07:18 AM | Link to this

Would you expect anything else from a small child?

HOWARD (AAAAYYYYYGGGGRRRREEE) DEAN: There are no Democrats who took money from Jack Abramoff, not one, not one single Democrat. Every person named in this scandal is a Republican. Every person under investigation is a Republican. Every person indicted is a Republican. This is a Republican finance scandal. There is no evidence that Jack Abramoff ever gave any Democrat any money. And we’ve looked through all of those FEC reports to make sure that’s true.

Scroll down, the pinkos are in blue

Hypocrisy-n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies- The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

Impeach Murtha!

By Brian Curtis

January 9, 2006 07:26 AM | Link to this

Of course America is worth fighting for! Why do you think we’re giving the neocons and fascists such a hard time?

As far as corruption goes… Yes, it’s bipartisan. But I DO note that the infamous K Street Project was entirely a Republican operation, and it has taken bribery and corruption to new, unprecedented heights in recent years. Is anyone surprised that the Republicans want to have its founder (Gingrich) and chief enforcer (Santorum) spearheading the push for cleanup?

By AntiRadical

January 9, 2006 07:35 AM | Link to this

Anyone notice that Al Queda’s #2 man, Zarqawi, is baiting the President by releasing a tape saying that “Al Queda has won the war”. Since the Administration has been pandering to the masses and releasing statements hinting at troop reductions, Zarqawi has used this to call us cowards who are “running home with our tail between our legs”. I guess the President’s inability to stick to his convictions will be the Dems fault, too, though. NeoCons are never responsible for anything, are they?

By Andy

January 9, 2006 07:45 AM | Link to this

Now, let’s bring Dean’s assertions to their logical conclusion:

DEAN: Senator Byron Dorgan and some others took money from Indian tribes. They’re not agents of Jack Abramoff. There’s no evidence that I’ve seen that Jack Abramoff directed any contributions to Democrats.

Dean asserts that dems took money from Indian tribes, Republicans took it from Abramoff.

Jack Abramoff, the once-powerful lobbyist at the center of a wide-ranging public corruption investigation, pleaded guilty yesterday to fraud, tax evasion and conspiracy to bribe public officials

Jack Abramoff also took money directly from the Indian tribes. This money was used to try and influence congress in favor of the tribes, relating to casinos, etc.

What Dean has done, in his typical fit of stupidity and ignorance, is cut out the middle man. I guess you could argue that the Indians were really fond of democrats and had this burning desire to lavish hundreds of thousands of dollars on them.

Now if you are a Conservative, keep in mind that there are accusations that Abramoff stole money from the tribes and that he didn’t particularly even like Indians. Why, who’s to say what his motive’s were when he gave that money to Republicans only. Why would he steal money from a group he was trying to win favors for? They thought that money was buying influence and he was ridiculing them. Maybe he was just a political junkie? He stole money from the Indians, lying to them about it’s purpose, so he could hang out with big shot Conservatives?

The whole entire wrongdoing in this sordid little affair is the influence of Congress the Indians were trying to buy. And like Dean says, they went directly to the democrats looking for that action.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 07:46 AM | Link to this

Midori posted this link on corruption. It is not a WSJ opinion. Good read

By Andy

January 9, 2006 07:53 AM | Link to this

AntiR: I wonder who will see this “Al Qaeda victory” as a good thing?-

Al Jazeera: US Democrat calls for Iraq pullout

Impeach Murtha!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 07:59 AM | Link to this

Look how drunk the President is today. Yesterday, I heard him finally talk about OBL. He said OBL changed phones due to a leak. What an idiot, no wonder they can’t catch thier leader who attacked us.

Murtha for Congress!

By Andy

January 9, 2006 08:00 AM | Link to this

getalife:

By Andy

January 8, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

It is not clear how many (if any) solons will wind up in jail because of their friendship with Abramoff. Bribery is very hard to prove. Congressman Ney, identified in Abramoff’s indictment as “Representative #1,� says he was duped into performing favors for Abramoff’s clients. “Members of Congress are constantly raising and receiving money all the time, and they also perform official acts,� says Ney’s lawyer, Mark Tuohey.

“Tom DeLay is not concerned that Mr. Abramoff is cooperating. He urges everyone involved to cooperate in the investigation and to tell the truth.� Most of the influence peddling on Capitol Hill is perfectly legal: money funneled through charitable foundations or political-action committees.

If even PMSNBC is raising doubts, these dudes are going to walk.

Impeach Murtha!

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 08:01 AM | Link to this

AntiRadical, you are taking a page right from the liberal playbook. You complain and moan about how the President needs to bring the troops home. Then when he does, based on the generals on the ground recommendation, not any political decision, you say he is not sticking to his convictions. Nice double talk. By the way, where do you think Al Qaeda learned that if you wait long enough and kill enough Americans, we will lose our political will? Maybe when Bill Clinton freaked out over what happened in Somalia and brought our troops home against their wishes without letting them finish the mission.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

Andy,

“Jack was sort of like a drug dealer,” said the former staffer. “He’d give them [DeLay’s staffers] a little taste and then get them hooked.”

DeLay was wearing a wire!

Murtha for Congress!

By Andy

January 9, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this

Inquiring minds want to know: What’s the difference from the Indian’s giving Abramoff the money or giving it directly to the democrats, like Howard Dean said?

P.S. Don’t believe that silly childish excuse about “the party in power” that the pinkos are throwing around. Anybody can attach an “earmark” to a spending bill.

Impeach the democrats, influence peddlers!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

Hastert is calling for lobbyist reform! I wonder why?

D’OH!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

Andy,

I saw crazy Howie say that on CNN, he left Wolf speechless. Him and Reid are making a big mistake.

By Andy

January 9, 2006 08:09 AM | Link to this

getalife: You are right about that article being an excellent read, PMSNBC is raising doubts about the bribery scenario, which will clear all of the Republicans who dealt with Abramoff. Now, the democrats, on the other hand, who took money directly from the tribes, are in some serious hot water.

Impeach the democrats, Harry Reid, casinos, Viva Las Vegas!

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 08:11 AM | Link to this

getalife, I think that is why so many people were shocked when Dean was elected as DNC Chairman. The more he talks the dumber he looks. And personally I really don’t think he represents what most Democrats think. Between him and Terry McAluffie, they have done more damage to the Democratic Party then the Republicans could ever do

By getalife

January 9, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

Andy,

I doubt some Republicans are off the hook but Reid is in bed with the casinos.

BTW, At the HP they say “we are driving the bus.” Of course, the Dems post bus crash pictures. One in particular where a train hit the bus.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this

Ricky,

I think the Dems should have a conference like the GOP and both should elect new leadership that are not involved with Jack.

By AntiRadical

January 9, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this

If anyone thinks that Howard Dean would be any less of an imbecile than George W. Bush as President, here are a few “Deanisms”:

Howard Dean: “We have to stop terrorism before peace negotiations”. (Forward) vs Howard Dean: “[I don’t] believe stopping the terror has to be a prerequisite for talking.” (CNN)

Dean: “The way to balance the budget is for Congress to cut Social Security, move the retirement age to 70, cut defense, Medicare and veterans pensions, while the states cut almost everything else.” (Newhouse News) vs Dean: “I have never favored Social Security retirement at the age of 70, nor do I favor one of 68.” (debate, Aug. 5, 2003) vs Dean: “I also would entertain taking the retirement age to 68.” (Meet the Press, June 2003)

Here’s where he exhibits a little intellect: Howard Dean: “Trying to have it both ways demonstrates neither strong leadership nor good judgment.â€? (Boston Globe)

Of course, we can’t forget the ultimate “Mental Midget”: “One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures.” —George W. Bush, Jan. 3, 2000

Don’t know about anybody else, but I’m going to stop voting for conservatives who aren’t really even conservatives at all. The biggest pork-barrel politician of all time (LBJ) didn’t charge up the debt that GWB has. Next election, I’m flipping a coin; heads it’s Reps/tails the Dems (appropriate choices, don’t you think).

By finch

January 9, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

There is a world of difference between Indian tribes donating money to lawmakers campaigns, and lobbyists bribing lawmakers with payoffs, or golf trips to Scotland, for quid pro quos.

DeLay won’t good wearing a jumpsuit with wide horizontal stripes. It’ll make him look fat. But he’d better get used to the idea.

By Midori

January 9, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

While driving to work, I heard that Cheney was released from the hospital. What happened to him? He’s been using that cane for some weeks now.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

Anthrax and Abramoff

By Christy

January 9, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this

Mike, I laughed my head off this morning when I saw “Passing Judgment”! You’re the best. Keep being you and ignore all of the negative comments from the sheep. I’ve noticed their comments have gotten somewhat less harsh than before when some thought you were African-American. God Bless.

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

Midori, Cheney was suffering from shortness of breath. He is not the most healthly guy. Christy, had to throw the race card in there didn’t you. I have been posting here for a couple of months and never seen anyone talk about ml’s race

By getalife

January 9, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

Midori,

Cheney has an old foot injury

By getalife

January 9, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Ricky,

Me either. About Cheney, he had four heart attacks. From my experience, too many codiene meds will cause congentative heart failure, shortness of breath and fluid retention if your heart is bad. You are right, he is not the most healthy guy.

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 09:35 AM | Link to this

Most Americans support Alito being confirmed: According to the latest Washington Post–ABC News poll, 53 percent of Americans say Alito should be confirmed by the Senate. Only 27 percent say he should be rejected. Twenty percent remains undecided

By Midori

January 9, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

Cheney sure is fortunate to have such an excellent health care program.

By Brian Curtis

January 9, 2006 09:42 AM | Link to this

I believe most Americans couldn’t identify one position or statement from any of Alito’s rulings, either.

By Andy

January 9, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

And, according to Iranians I trust, Osama bin Laden finally departed this world in mid-December. The al Qaeda leader died of kidney failure and was buried in Iran, where he had spent most of his time since the destruction of al Qaeda in Afghanistan. The Iranians who reported this note that this year’s message in conjunction with the Muslim Haj came from his number two, Ayman al-Zawahiri, for the first time.

If this delightful news is true, would the new supreme leader of the terrorists be Zawahri or Murtha?

Impeach the democrats, Indian influence peddlers!

By Stevo

January 9, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

More proof that W is just a puppet, when God was angry at Isreal he smote the Prime Minister of Isreal. When He is mad at the U.S. he smites Cheney!

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis, heres the thing though. They trust the ABA which rated him as most qualified across the board. They rated him better than they did Sandra Day O’Connor when she was nominated. Most people just want a qualified candidate. That is what they are getting in Alito. Most Americans don’t buy into the special interest groups stuff.

By KW

January 9, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

Ouch! Man that is funny!

By finch

January 9, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

I wouldn’t be surprised if Osama is pushing up daisies somewhere.

I mean, where exactly does a 6 1/2 foot Saudi hooked up to a dialysis machine hide?

Al Qaeda is the Bates Motel. And Osama is Norman’s mother.

By Jay not jay

January 9, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

Que

By finch

January 9, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

What a great letter in today’s AJC, from a reader who marvels at the “die-hard Republicans trying to extricate their ‘family values’ party from the Abramoff tar pit”.

The braying of cons who claim Democrats are just as guilty (not by a long shot, bunkie!) is deafening. And the result, says the letter writer, is that Bill Clinton has now become “the Swiss army knife of GOP excuses”.

“But Clinton did it toooooo…”

snicker!

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

This torture clip gets the BigDaddy seal of approval. finch, I believe the same conclusion is drawn as you have previously suggested…

By getalife

January 9, 2006 11:18 AM | Link to this

BD,

They started a blog just for you

By Jay not jay

January 9, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

Just a test before, it was blocking me from posting an ABC link for some reason..

If Robertson is now some kind of spokesman for the right, I guess Belafonte is the same for the left.

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

getalife, thanks for looking out for me (I think)…

By getalife

January 9, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

BD,

They are talking porn, football, wines and rings. I think you will fit right in.

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

getalife, as BigDaddy is an expert on all of those things, perhaps he should say hello. Today, though, will prove too difficult. Just starting a new job, so daytime fun on the board will be somewhat limited…

By getalife

January 9, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

BD, I saw a DB over there thought it might be you but I am sure it will do well at night. Good luck on the new job.

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

getalife, at any rate, I prefer to get my dating tips here.

These are some of the funniest stories of drunken mayhem I’ve ever come across. If those won’t give you a smile, I don’t know what will. Good luck and happy reading!

By Midori

January 9, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this

Hey, Ricky

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this

Midori, thats a pretty good cartoon. Worth a laugh. Just remember that is was the Dems who for years said that if someone was given the highest rating by the ABA, then they should be confirmed no matter what. Happened with both Ginsburg and Breyer

By Andy

January 9, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

What’s up with this Howard Dean bimbo eruption? First he gets on the Sunday am talkers and irrevocably links the democratic party to the Abramoff- Indian scandal by freely admitting their involvement. Now he’s written a hysterical screed denouncing Alito by using a stupid, pointless rambling manifesto against the Republican Party in general, without mention of Alito’s qualifications.

What’s the matter, did one of you pinkos leave his cage door open by accident? Is it his turn in the kook rotation? Do you libs enjoy shooting yourselves in the a-ss all the time?

Impeach Murtha, Al Qaeda Chief!

By Liberal Texas Democrat

January 9, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this

“Just remember that is was the Dems who for years said that if someone was given the highest rating by the ABA, then they should be confirmed no matter what.” Funny, I don’t ever remember saying that.

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

Liberal Texas Dem, they have said that for years and it is common knowledge. Look, the Dems are extremely hypocritical on Supreme Court nominees. I can guarantee that at least 22 of them have already made up their mind to vote no. It doesn’t matter what Alito says. His qualifications don’t matter. It just matters that the pro-choice lobby has so many of the Dems in their pockets. Ginsburg and Breyer were both openly pro-choice, but the Reps were principled enought to recognize they were qualified to be on the Court. Dems don’t play by those rules. John Roberts has been called the most qualified candidate ever for the Supreme Court and still had half the Dem senators vote against him.

By Midori

January 9, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Yeah, right

By getalife

January 9, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

Nice!

By Michael H.

January 9, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

Robertson has always made outlandish comments. It seems that the only difference now may be that they are directed towards the leaders of other countries instead of those he despises within the United States.

Before he is dismissed, however, we should consider a few facts. Robertson has built quite an apparatus for promoting a religious-ethical-political agenda into law and has a place of some influence within the Republican party.

In addition to the television network and his Christian Coalition organization, he has established an accredited law school to train “Christian” lawyers to challenge the doctrine of state neutrality. He has also created an organization called the American Center for Law and Justice whose “Chief Counsel” Jay Alan Sekulov is interviewed by major news networks, who has met with Bush to lobby for conservative supreme court appointees, and who coordinates the legal activities of over 700 “Christian” lawyers in an effort to promte this agenda.

Ralph Reed headed the Christian Coalition for 6 or 7 years and went on to head the Republican party in Georgia, run the southeastern campaign for George Bush in the 2004 election in order to ensure that evangelicals and fundamentalists turned out in numbers sufficient to produce a majority in the vote count and not just the electoral college.

Again Robertson’s absurd remarks are not new. Consider the following comments(and wonder why the Republican party didn’t repudiate this wretched, mean spirited, hate-filled man long ago.):

“When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. What do you mean?' the media challenged me.You’re not going to bring atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe in the Judeo-Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?’ My simple answer is, `Yes, they are.’”

-from Pat Robertson’s “The New World Order,” page 218.

“The Constitution of the United States, for instance, is a marvelous document for self-government by the Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian people and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society. And that’s what’s been happening.” — Pat Robertson, The 700 Club, Dec. 30, 1981

“It is interesting, that termites don’t build things, and the great builders of our nation almost to a man have been Christians, because Christians have the desire to build something. He is motivated by love of man and God, so he builds. The people who have come into (our) institutions (today) are primarily termites. They are into destroying institutions that have been built by Christians, whether it is universities, governments, our own traditions, that we have…. The termites are in charge now, and that is not the way it ought to be, and the time has arrived for a godly fumigation.”—Pat Robertson, New York Magazine, August 18, 1986

“You say you’re supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don’t have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don’t have to be nice to them.”—Pat Robertson, The 700 Club, January 14, 1991

“Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It’s no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.”—Pat Robertson, 1993 interview with Molly Ivins

How can there be peace when drunkards, drug dealers, communists, atheists, New Age worshipers of Satan, secular humanists, oppressive dictators, greedy money changers, revolutionary assassins, adulterers, and homosexuals are on top?”—Pat Robertson, The New World Order, p.227

“There is no such thing as separation of church and state in the Constitution. It is a lie of the Left and we are not going to take it anymore.” —Pat Robertson, November 1993 during an address to the American Center for Law and Justice

(Talking about apartheid South Africa) “I think ‘one man, one vote,’ just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise. There needs to be some kind of protection for the minority which the white people represent now, a minority, and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights.”—Pat Robertson, “The 700 Club,” 3/18/92

“The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians.” — Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992 (Reported in the NY Times, part of a fundraising letter to defeat Bill Clinton, with the Hillary Clinton described in language similar to the second sentence.)

“I think we ought to close Halloween down. Do you want your children to dress up as witches? The Druids used to dress up like this when they were doing human sacrifice… [Your children] are acting out Satanic rituals and participating in it, and don’t even realize it.”—Pat Robertson, “The 700 Club,” 10/29/82

By Midori

January 9, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

I did some reading up on Ralph Reed yesterday.

I was shocked to find out that we were both born in Portsmouth, Virginia.

Portsmouth is also where Jim Bakker got his start — he and Tammy Faye used to host a television children’s show.

No wonder I left.

By Andy

January 9, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

Michael H.: So what’s your point?

Impeach Pat Robertson (what office does he hold, bozo?)

By kimberly

January 9, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

Michael, do you want to know why the Republican party didn’t repudiate this wretched, mean spirited, hate-filled man long ago? Because he speaks for them, that’s why. And Andy is their poster pet o’ the week, who will momentarily spew more mean-spirited venom at us.

Wake up, people.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

I read that you are starting a new job and now I hear that a scantily clad pedestrian is slowing traffic on I-75.

Is adding a tiny bit of clothing really a new job?

By Midori

January 9, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Andy,

why do you have to be so mean all the time?

Sometimes you can be so sweet, and then, BAM!!!

By Andy

January 9, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this

Meanwhile, the democratic party spokesperson: Cindy!

Impeach Pat Robertson, conspirator!

By dubya

January 9, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

Good mornin, my fellow Republicans! Hey! Didn’t we do a heckuva job slaughtering American kids in Iraq over the weekend? I don’t think much about such things but think it was in the upper teens. And that’s jest one weekend’s worth! Heckuva job we stay-at-home-Repubs do, eh? An this is just the first day of a whole new week. Wonder how many we can murder THIS week!

Now wait’ll you see the “Eye-Rock Terrorist Training Schools” garbage we’re gonna REALLY start peddling to the masses TODAY! You’ll luv it and they’ll feed upon it. Heckuva job we do! “Freedom and Democracy On The March.” God bless Merka!!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

Jim Bakker, another criminal

By getalife

January 9, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Andy,

OBL is not dead according to your link

By Andy

January 9, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

getalife: Only a pinko would find al jizzeera more credible than National Review.

“dubya”: What is this we nonsense? Are you a suicide bomber?

Impeach Murtha!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

Andy,

why do you have to be so mean all the time?

Midori wants you to be nice.

It was your link, why the hel-l are you reading the enemy’s propaganda?

Traitor?

Murtha for Congress! Cindy for Rep!

By Andy

January 9, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

getalife: I typed in “democratic” “pinko” “treason” in google and al jizzeera was the first page that came up.

Tell Midori if she were to come over to the Conservative side she would fully understand why I get “mean” on occasion. Either that or it’s the sex thing…

Impeach Cindy!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this

Andy,

You are doing better than I am.

I just got dumped on the new dating blog.

I used one of RW’s lines. Thanks RW.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

Do you think this is why the swimmer keeps refering to Alito as Alioto?

By getalife

January 9, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

By Perception is Reality getalife… do as your name suggests, then blog as eloquently as the Diva?

Ouch!

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

getalife, that’s what you get for using RW’s lines. Try this:

I’m taking an informal internet poll - ladies, how do you feel about golden showers?. I’m sure that will get you a lot of interest…

And yes, RW, that was me. I don’t have a wireless connection, so I have to streak into public libraries to post. At least it’s warm out today…

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Telling people to step away from their keyboard is not the best line for cyber dating. I don’t see anything you want over there anyway.

Attention

If anybody goes to that “getalife & Laney” dating page to fool around DO NOT use a real e-mail address. You can see the address when you hover your mouse over the name.

By Andy

January 9, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this

I’d like to see the pinkos draw this cartoon:

Pope Says Terrorism Is ‘Moral Perversion’

God Bless The Pope!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this

BD,

Laney has big red letters for her name.

All I asked was how do I make mine big and red?

By Dusty

January 9, 2006 01:13 PM | Link to this

Why is Andy mean? He isn’t. Just honest. That is what upsets liberals. He rejects the pulp projects put out by these sulky and sometimes psychopaths.

Take “dubya”, you think he is sane? Or Michael H. who can’t control himself and writes pages about somebody we already know about and rejected. Or finch who thinks he is the Washington monument. Or Kimberly and Midori who’d rather wreck then make a right turn? Or getalife, full of meds and memories and Murtha? Hey, keep your liberal crew. I’ll take Andy anytime because I love this country just like he does.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this

getalife,

If that’s what you meant by using one of RW’s lines I would like a retraction.

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this

All I asked was how do I make mine big and red? - getalife

getalife, have you tried a pump? (and no, I’m not linking to a pic for that)

By Midori

January 9, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this

Or Dusty - who is so full of sh*t that even the horseflies are envious.

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this

getalife, or you could try attending one of these

By Michael H.

January 9, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this

Dusty, Andy, when you actually give an argument to back a claim or show that you even can read and understand a post, then I may respond to what you say.

But I’m not too concerned about that possibility.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

I don’t understand this “Andy is mean” theme today. All he has done is call “Michael H” Bozo. What else would you call someone that collects Pat Robertson quotes?

By getalife

January 9, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

BD,

I tried linking over there and was censored! What happenned to the freedom of speech?

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this

getalife - censored? It was a link to amazon.com! Well, that kinda ruins the fun. Here, just do this - go to Amazon and type in Rainbow Party. It’s the book with a bunch of tubes of lipstick on the cover. The description will tell you all you need to know.

Another way to make it red would be to pay a visit to the fella in RW’s link above. Looks like he could help for sure…

By getalife

January 9, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

BD,

Of course, what I was linking was pretty nasty.

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

getalife, you would link to something nasty? I’m shocked, shocked I tell you. And ashamed. And a little bored.

Did you read any of the stories on the site I linked to earlier. The second one is particularly appalingly funny…

By Dusty

January 9, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

Midori, thanks for proving my point.

Michael H., don’t respond. I don’t have all afternoon to read it.

RW, maybe I will go to a quiet library and meditate peacefully. But Big Daddy might show up in his Tarzan outfit. I’m not sure I am ready for such enlightenment.

By finch

January 9, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

“Or finch who thinks he is the Washington monument.”

Sigh! Dusty, I didn’t know you cared!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

BD,

Yes, I liked the first line.

I am a a*****.

By Michael H.

January 9, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

yes, Dusty, I realize it would probably take you most of the afternoon to read what it took me three minutes to write. (I doubt you have ever been inside a library, learning doesn’t come by osmosis.)

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this

apparently, finch won’t be requiring a pump. Congrats, there, big fella!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this

they sell size 16 in Macy’s too, so what difference does it make? men would screw anything anyway

Is size 16 big for a woman?

By Andy

January 9, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

I’m not going to respond to anymore of you pinkos because I’m better than you are. From now on, you just get to sit there and listen to me tell everybody how smart I am. Well, maybe I will…

How about this Michael H. What a life. He bases these monumentally boring posts on fake collegiate studies and mentally deranged inconsequential individuals. It’s like if we quit making fun of Cindy Sheehan and started analyzing her kook statements, maybe comparing her to the Founding Fathers. Typical pinko “intellect” this guy is.

It doesn’t help the situation to have Midori encourage this kook by getting all moonie eyed…

Impeach Murtha!

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

getalife, size 16 is just shy of Baby Huey. BigDaddy touches nothing over a 6. Unless I need a slump buster. Or I’ve been drinking. Or it’s raining and BigDaddy just needs to be held…

By Jay not jay

January 9, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

Micheal H., no one gives a rat’s what Robertson says. Maybe you should go ask your spokesman Harry Belafonte about Robertson, they both seem to have an interest in Chavez.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

How about size 24? Man, there is a cat fight going on over there. Pretty funny.

By Midori

January 9, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

Midori, thanks for proving my point.

you proved your own point, Dear.

I’m not about to let you bad mouth me and sit back and stay silent.

something you people don’t realize and don’t know about me: I only bite once I’ve been bitten.

I didn’t start the fire, much like Billy Joel.

By Dusty

January 9, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy, the librarian just expelled you because you signed in as Mr. Rogers from the neighborhood.

By Midori

January 9, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

Did you guys know that at one point Marilyn Monroe wore a size 16? However, bear in mind that dress sizes are different now.

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

getalife, all size 24s are required to have a personal site like this (nods to The Onion).

I’m just waiting on my initiation into NO MA’AM…

By BigDaddy

January 9, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this

Big girls know how to have fun, too…

By Andy

January 9, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

Babs offers her vast Michael H. type wisdom on Iran; hot air with a touch of monotony:

Is This The Democracy We Are Fighting For?

Do liberals have anybody who’s not mentally deranged?

Impeach Murtha!

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

BigDaddy rarely wears as much as Tarzan.

(I’m on dial backup YYYEEEERRRRGGGGGG!)

By up

January 9, 2006 02:10 PM | Link to this

I like big butts and I can not lie You other brothers can’t deny That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist And a round thing in your face You get sprung Wanna pull up tough Cuz you notice that butt was stuffed Deep in the jeans she’s wearing I’m hooked and I can’t stop staring Oh, baby I wanna get with ya And take your picture My homeboys tried to warn me But that butt you got Make Me so horney Ooh, rump of smooth skin You say you wanna get in my benz Well use me use me cuz you aint that average groupy

By Dusty

January 9, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this

Was it Mama Cass that wore size 34? Or was that “Twiggy”?

By Liberal Texas Democrat

January 9, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

“Liberal Texas Dem, they have said that for years and it is common knowledge.” Hmmmm “they”, “the dems”, “common knowledge”, I’m a “dem” and it’s never been “common knowledge” to me anymore than I know who the “they” or “the dems” are of whom you speak.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

I am down with up! Huh?

By Dusty

January 9, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

OHhh, RW, for a minute there I thought you were Howard Deannnnnnnn.

The librarian says that BD wears “Tarzan” on cold days.

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this

Liberal Texas Democrat, during the Clinton years, many of the Democrats in the Senate(Schumer, Durbin, Kennedy for example) included that as one of their talking points. They repeatedly said about Ginsburg and Breyer that regardless of their stance on abortion and other hot button issues that if the ABA gave them an outstanding rating, then they were qualified to be on the Court. Do you think Alito is not qualified? If so why?

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this

Hey the DOW hit 11,000 for the first time since 2001 today.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

This Guy?

I’m back to full speed!!!! I’m starting to get this figured out, there’s nothing wrong with my cable it just shuts down any time I go to 3 BigDaddy links in a row.

By Andy

January 9, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Look at how scumbag CNN has this headline- Yates: Not guilty by reason of insanity- This is not the truth, it is what the lowlifes at CNN want to have happen to this monster. They want her to walk and probably to go get pregnant again. Pieces of..

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

Are you watching any of this? I had to mute Schumer and go to closed caption.

By finch

January 9, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this

I just checked out that dating blog. I’ve been washing my hands ever since. Ugh.

Meanwhile, the (all GOP) Texas Court of Criminal Appeals refuses to dismiss money laundering charges against Congressman Tom DeLay.

DeLay’s reaction?

Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle had no immediate comment.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

I am rocking out. All it is a bunch of rhetoric campaign speeches. I do not think Alito has spoken yet.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

up posted this over there

Am I fat?

Sheese!

By finch

January 9, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

Boring. 18 Senators each get 10 minutes to spew. Scheduled total: 3 hours. I especially like the seconds-remaining clock. Golly, just like the NFL or NBA!

This has about as much suspense as a Scooter Libby novel. I’d rather watch paint dry.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

finch,

At least tomorrow he gets to answer. I propose a bi-partisan motion that lets the nominee leave a cardboard cutout in the chair for opening and closing statements.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

I second and do not televise.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

I am listening to NIN: There is no you there is only me! Goes well with CNN at the moment.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 03:06 PM | Link to this

ICNNNN’s

By Dusty

January 9, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this

RW,

Couldn’t get that link to come up. Oh well, sounds like there is more wildlife elsewhere, like congress. See ya..

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

I bet the AP headline writers have been trying to work this one in for awhile now

By kimberly

January 9, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

Getalife, sometimes I think I can see right through myself. {;->

By getalife

January 9, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

kimberly,

Head like a hole.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

Here you go

By Andy

January 9, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

RW: I wonder which “peace” Clinton was thinking of?

Impeach Murtha!

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Whatever he meant AP said a blow had been struck, so you knew Bubba had to be around.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

And finally we get to hear from Judge Alito.

By finch

January 9, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this

On speaking ability alone, Alito gets at least a 9 out of 10.

Notice the absence of notes, index cards, etc.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this

finch,

He and Roberts both, kind of puts the Senators to shame.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this

In an era when America is still too often divided by race and by riches, Judge “Alioto” has not written one single opinion on the merits in favor of a person of color alleging race discrimination on the job. In fifteen years on the bench, not one. The Swimmer 1/9/06

Oh Really?

But hey, since when did the Dems let the facts get in the way of a race-based smear?

By RE

January 9, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

Pope fears Bush is antichrist, journalist contends - Church - journalist Wayne Madsden - Brief Article Catholic New Times, May 18, 2003

God bless Pope John Paul II

By Liberal Texas Democrat

January 9, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

“many of the Democrats in the Senate(Schumer, Durbin, Kennedy for example) included that as one of their talking points.” Is a far cry from “the dems”. I have not formed an opinion as to the qualifications of Alito.

By Scott

January 9, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this

Right you are, Dubya. And the more American kids the Republiscum murder in Iraq the more that can be declared “heroes.” And anyone who criticizes the ignorance and insanity of the “middle east policy” can be called “unpatriotic” and “unAmerican.” Course that’s already being done, eh. We are so lucky to have Bushie and his supporters. They are filled to the brim with…”THE WRONG STUFF.”

By Clyde

January 9, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this

Wow! Here comes the site’s Repub “Castrated Crew.”

By Scooter

January 9, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

Right turn clyde.

By Andy

January 9, 2006 05:31 PM | Link to this

Scooter: Did any of these brave courageous pinkos take up your offer and meet you at the reptile the other night? Or did they do a drive by on the place, maybe throwing a crying towel out the window?

Impeach Schumer!

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

Hearings opened today for Justice-designate Samuel Alito, beginning with endless hours of windbaggery from Senate Judiciary Committee members. Poor Alito is forced to sit still for all of it. If Alito were a terrorist, Sen. Dick Durbin would compare himself to a Nazi. James Taranto

While we’re at it, Impeach Durbin!

By AntiRadical

January 9, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

Osama bin Laden/Pat Robertson. Fundamentalist religious radical/Fundamentalist religious radical. Hate monger/Hate monger. Profiteer/Profiteer. Messiah complex/Messiah complex. Extremist/Extremist. False prophet/False prophet. Muslim/Christian. These guys are nothing at all alike.

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

And whats so funny about Durbin is that he was pro-life when he first came to Congress. He changed his position, which is fine. But it won’t be fine for Alito. If he says that is what I believed in the 80’s but have now decided it is settled precedent, Durbin would still vote against him. Yet another example of Democratic hyprocrisy

By Andy

January 9, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

Well, how do you like that? AntiR worked all day long on his clever little post and left out the most important comparison. Can these pinkos do anything on their own? Osama/ Robertson, Murderer/ Not a Murderer.

Sheese.

Impeach Murtha!

By physicsDawg

January 9, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this

I normally hate ML’s leftist cartoons, but I love this one. Why? Because PatR brings shame on “real” Christians. He needs to read his Bible, not just wear it on his forehead. “Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?” John 9:2

By AntiRadical

January 9, 2006 06:25 PM | Link to this

Andy, who was Osama convicted of killing? Wasn’t it you who thought we shouldn’t jump to conclusions of guilt regarding the latest Abramoff/Libby scandals? Guess we should only consider “Republicans” innocent until proven guilty?

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 06:25 PM | Link to this

physicsDawg, you are right, Robertson does nothing but bring shame on most Christians.

By physicsDawg

January 9, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this

anti-panti: so you are now claiming that osama isn’t a murderer? how nice for you.

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

AntiRadical, Osama has admitted to many murders including the 9/11 attacks and the terrorist attacks in Africa. Do you really think he is innocent?

By getalife

January 9, 2006 06:28 PM | Link to this

Tom Delay is a good christian.

Criminal!( After a fair trial of course)

By AntiRadical

January 9, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

Ricky: Of course, I don’t think Osama is innocent. I don’t know one way or the other. The man hasn’t been brought to trial and evidence hasn’t been presented. Considering the weight of what has been reported I find it unlikely that he is innocent but guilty men have confessed before (especially for Martyrdom). Just calling attention to the HYPOCRISY of calling for innocence until proven guilt only when it involves your own interests.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this

Wow, even I wouldn’t have gone as far as saying OBL is a Democrat. I guess that explains why his confession doesn’t count though, Bush tricked him.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this

Rep. Flake just admitted the GOP is a culture of corruption. Lou Dobbs just tore him a new one.

By Objective Observer

January 9, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this

Getalife: I’m a christian too, but I hang out with corrupt politicians. How are you today?

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this

AntiRadical, you can’t compare the two. That is like comparing apples and oranges. Someone who has openly declared war on the United States and repeatedly admitted to terrorist attacks is not the same as the Libby/Abramoff situation. Do I think there are some Congressmen guilty in the Abramoff scandal? I sure do. But they still have to be proven guilty. Osama doesn’t deserve the same benefit of doubt.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this

OO,

I got kicked to the curb today here

Other than that, I am alive and kicking corruption to the curb.

How are you?

By Midori

January 9, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this

And the call us f*cking crazy

By Ricky

January 9, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

Midori, you sure love to bash believers.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 06:47 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

This is what Nancy Pelosi has to say about “apples and oranges” comparisons:

House minority leader Nancy Pelosi, the California Democrat, engaged in a small but cheesy bit of deception last week. She released a letter, which quickly found its way to the front page of the New York Times, that she had written on Oct. 11, 2001, to then National Security Agency director General Michael V. Hayden. In it she expressed concern that Hayden, who had briefed the House Intelligence Committee about the steps he was taking to track down al-Qaeda terrorists after the 9/11 attacks, was not acting with “specific presidential authorization.” Hayden wrote her back that he was acting under the powers granted to his agency in a 1981 Executive Order… .

The release of Pelosi’s letter last week and the subsequent Times story (“Agency First Acted on Its Own to Broaden Spying, Files Show”) left the misleading impression that a) Hayden had launched the controversial data-mining operation on his own, and b) Pelosi had protested it. But clearly the program didn’t exist when Pelosi wrote the letter. When I asked the Congresswoman about this, she said, “Some in the government have accused me of confusing apples and oranges. My response is, it’s all fruit.”

There you go, It’s all fruit!

By Andy

January 9, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

getalife: If a tree fell on the Lou Dobbs show would it make any noise?

Impeach Murtha!

By Andy

January 9, 2006 06:52 PM | Link to this

Midori: Are you sure that water wasn’t from Kennedy shaking off after his swim to work?

What makes you think we would call you crazy, hun?

Impeach Murtha!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I do not think there are trees around his studio.

Murtha for Congress!

By AntiRadical

January 9, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this

Like I said Ricky, “innocent until proven guilty” is the leading principle of our system of laws. To apply it arbitrarily is hypocritical. That is what makes America different than any tin-plated dictatorship. If America is truely America, bin Laden must be assumed innocent until proven guilty or the principle isn’t a principle at all; then it would be just a convenient fallacy. All Congressmen should certainly be assumed innocent as well. In this age of political “gotcha”, I believe half of what I see and next to none of what I hear, anyway.

“Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people.�- W.C. Fields

By Midori

January 9, 2006 07:04 PM | Link to this

No, Andy — the liquid was from all the guts spilling out of Laura Welsh’s boyfriend’s innards after she mowed over him with her car.

By Objective Observer

January 9, 2006 07:09 PM | Link to this

Getalife: Sorry for the delay. Remember, I was kicked to the curb on this site but not to worry. I’m great! Tired and my back is killing me. Some of the kids aren’t ambulatory and require alot of lifting. I’m getting back into the gym, I got lazy over the holidays.

I hope you are not “looking for love in all the wrong places”, you might catch something.

By Midori

January 9, 2006 07:09 PM | Link to this

Midori, you sure love to bash believers.

well, there are “believers”, and there are nuts.

and then there’s Planters.

I believe I like my nuts vacuum sealed.

By Andy

January 9, 2006 07:10 PM | Link to this

AntiR: You know the better part of the free world ridiculed Howard Dean for making that same statement? Congratulations, you have joined a very exclusive club, with a very hard to come by membership.

So if we apply this same logic to Pat Robertson, what you are saying is that he is innocent of making stupid vile statements until his guilt is proven in a court of law. After all, not only did Bin Laden order 9/11, he celebrated it and took responsibility for it.

Impeach Murtha!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

OO,

I guess its you and me OO, you and me.

I just went over there for fun. All they kept talking about was “Am I fat?”

By Objective Observer

January 9, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this

Getalife: Is you fat? or Is they fat? I didn’t go in.

By Andy

January 9, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this

Midori: Is that trivia fact #4?

Impeach Murtha!

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 07:20 PM | Link to this

getalife,

How did they do that?

Maybe, “Does this font make me look fat?”

By getalife

January 9, 2006 07:21 PM | Link to this

OO,

I brought this back from there:

By Monique

January 9, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

eat a twix b*, size 16 is not full figured, it’s regular

By Objective Observer

January 9, 2006 07:21 PM | Link to this

Getalife: Have fun. I’m out for the evening.

By AntiRadical

January 9, 2006 07:23 PM | Link to this

Andy: Stupid vile statements are not an unlawful act. No court of law for stupidity; everyone free to practice as much as they wish. Al Queda (not Osama specifically) did claim responsibility for 9/11 but many terrorist groups claim to have committed acts that they are later found not to have committed.

PS- Very happy to be ridiculed member of club dedicated to the prospect of “innocence until proven guilt”.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 07:23 PM | Link to this

RW,

Laney had big red fonts. You know the rest of the story.

By Objective Observer

January 9, 2006 07:23 PM | Link to this

Getalife: Don’t be fooled, 16 is reeaaal “fluffy”.

By Andy

January 9, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

Liberals have redefined patriotism to mean “dissent,� protesting against U.S. policy. Why? Because that is what liberals do. They criticize their country and moralize to their countrymen. They are “above� the rest of us. But dissent is not service. Dissent is simply personal gratification, a right guaranteed. Patriotism is service; and the act of denouncing one’s country simply serves one’s personal need to be heard.

Likewise, idealism has been redefined by many liberals to mean doing that which undermines U.S. attempts at self-defense and condemning one’s country abroad, even though by so doing one jeopardizes the physical safety of fellow citizens.

This guy knows what he’s talking about.

Impeach Murtha!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

OO,

Have a good time!

By Midori

January 9, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this

I fell in to a burning ring of fire; going down, down, down and the flames got higher

By Midori

January 9, 2006 07:28 PM | Link to this

and it burns, burns, burns - the ring of fire, the ring of fire

By getalife

January 9, 2006 07:30 PM | Link to this

I posted this one earlier

By getalife

January 9, 2006 07:32 PM | Link to this

GOP new motto: We are not the culture of corruption because Clinton did it too!

By Midori

January 9, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this

Secret Service Helped Staff Tabulate Abramoff Visits To White House, Photos Taken With Bush…

By Andy

January 9, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this

getalife: It’s actually because Clinton got away with it. It’s a moot point you make anyway, Cunningham and Delay did the honorable thing and stepped aside, which probably baffled pinkos all over the world.

Impeach Murtha!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this

Rep. DeLay’s willingness to step down at this time is noble. In the short term, his stepping aside may help Republicans re-focus. But Republicans, in the long run, will miss having such an effective leader.

I will miss the criminal!

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 07:46 PM | Link to this

Sometimes it’s hard to treat Democrats and Republicans the same way

By getalife

January 9, 2006 07:46 PM | Link to this

Andy,

They stepped down so they can turn on their buddies.

Lock up all the criminals and send them to the Gulf Coast for community service along with the maximum prison time after a fair trial of course!

By Andy

January 9, 2006 07:50 PM | Link to this

Meanwhile the democrats explain their involvement with Abramoff: Harry Reid- Why, I have no idea where I got this fat envelope full of cash from. I saw some wooden dude with a handful of cigars and a headdress stuff something into my coat, that must be it.

Republicans, the Honorable Party.

By Andy

January 9, 2006 07:54 PM | Link to this

Oh cool, Al Qaeda has set forth their terms for peace:

“First, chase out the invaders from our territory in Palestine, in Iraq and everywhere in Islamic land.

“Second, instal sharia (Islamic law) on the entire Earth and spread Islamic justice there (…). The attacks will not cease until after the victory of Islam and the setting up of sharia,” he swore.

Why am I willing to bet that these are acceptable to the democrats? This sounds like something Murtha or Dean would negotiate.

Impeach Murtha!

By Midori

January 9, 2006 07:56 PM | Link to this

I think I’ll go see “Brokeback Mountain” this weekend.

Anyone here seen it?

By Midori

January 9, 2006 07:59 PM | Link to this

Gee, aren’t these the same tribes Abramoff ripped off? Hmmmm…..

By getalife

January 9, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this

The new Ann Coulter article

By Andy

January 9, 2006 08:03 PM | Link to this

Oscar-Winner Hillary Swank Separates from Husband

Gee, I hope she doesn’t kill herself.

Impeach Murtha!

By Midori

January 9, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

gee, Tom. 3 strikes. you’re out.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 08:13 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Now that the case isn’t going to be thrown out, why won’t Ronnie Earl let him go on trial?

Let Delay’s acquittal begin!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this

Texas high criminal court denies DeLay’s requests

Poor Tom, I wonder if they will call him hammertime in prison.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 08:22 PM | Link to this

getalife,

How can they put him in prison? They won’t even let him have a trial.

Free The Hammer!

By getalife

January 9, 2006 08:33 PM | Link to this

RW,

They are probably learning on what his good buddy Jack has to tell them.

Hammertime! Can’t touch this!

By Midori

January 9, 2006 08:34 PM | Link to this

RW - I suggest you forward your query to Mr. Earle.

I wasn’t aware that he (Mr. Earle) was holding up the trial. Maybe you know something that I don’t.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 08:37 PM | Link to this

getalife,

When you indict somebody they deserve their day in court, if Ronnie Earle wants to look for something new he should drop the old charges and start over.

Let Ronnie Earle’s film crew go free!

By Midori

January 9, 2006 08:38 PM | Link to this

Maybe Mr. Earle can throw Gennifer a bone while he’s at it. Anyhow, here’s some “red meat” for you.

By getalife

January 9, 2006 08:48 PM | Link to this

RW,

AUSTIN, Texas An appeals court today refused to dismiss money laundering charges against Congressman Tom DeLay’s request or send them to a lower court for immediate trial.

I guess he will get a trial just not right away.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 08:55 PM | Link to this

getalife,

That sounds fair, indict someone and then jerk them around for as long as you want. Where is the ACLU?

Free Midori!

By Midori

January 9, 2006 09:04 PM | Link to this

LOL - I appreciate it, RW; however, I was hoping that Andy would free me :)

By rushncap

January 9, 2006 09:04 PM | Link to this

Hey RW, you really think DeLay did nothing wrong? Pure as the driven snow, he is? Wanna buy a bridge I gots somewhere ‘round here?

By getalife

January 9, 2006 09:05 PM | Link to this

RW,

Maybe he is a terrorist suspect. We should lock him up for years with no legal counsel and send him overseas to torture him.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 09:07 PM | Link to this

Midori,

You’re Welcome! I figured anyone linking Gennifer Flowers stories must be being held captive somewhere.

By Midori

January 9, 2006 09:08 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

you know damn well that it was those godless, dirty liberals who made Delay do it!!

Get with the program, willya??

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Then join me in asking for a speedy trial. I already bribed my Congressman for a bridge, sorry.

By Midori

January 9, 2006 09:11 PM | Link to this

oh, come now RW. You know just the mention of Gennifer got that adrenline going.

Bill Clinton is the gift that keeps on giving.

And I wrapped it up in such a pretty bow, too.

tsk, tsk.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 09:11 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Ronnie Earle should of had you as an adviser. Too bad he already went the indictment route.

By finch

January 9, 2006 09:13 PM | Link to this

It’s judges, not prosecutors who set trial dates. If DeLay’s lawyers want an early trial, they’ll have to ask. Again.

Interesting to note that the Texas Criminal Court of Appeals is made up of 9 justices. They’re elected, not appointed. They’re supposed to be non-partisan, but they all ran as Republicans.

DeLay backers are dreading the thought of him wearing white jumpsuits with large, black horizontal stripes. They will make him look fat.

By rushncap

January 9, 2006 09:13 PM | Link to this

I like speedy trials. I also like trials where both sides get a chance to gather all available evidence to present their case.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 09:16 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Two years presenting your “evidence” to six grand juries is insufficient in your world?

By getalife

January 9, 2006 09:19 PM | Link to this

RW,

I liked Tom and George better when they were drinking and partying. That born again thing just ain’t working for them.

By rushncap

January 9, 2006 09:21 PM | Link to this

DeLay got indicted a couple months ago. I’d say 2 months may well be insufficient to fully prepare for a trial this complex, especially since Abramoff seems to be about to sing.

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 09:23 PM | Link to this

finch,

Would you make a list of which amendments the people of your political persuasion like?

Is the Constitution a fungible thing that depends on whether you like the aggrieved party?

By Washington State

January 9, 2006 09:27 PM | Link to this

Now who was that guy who was the chairman of the Christian Coalition who mobilized the Christian Right to outlaw gambling so his indian clients could keep the monopoly on gambling? Wasn’t that in Texas and Louisiana? Is he associated with DeLay?

How do you spell hypocricy anyway?

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 09:28 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

The Abramoff thing wouldn’t have anything to do with the current charges. If he’s involved in criminal activity in that case then he can be charged for that then.

In the current case, if Earle has the evidence he claimed he had to the Grand Jury it’s time to put up or drop the charges.

By finch

January 9, 2006 10:07 PM | Link to this

RW,

I honestly don’t understand your question. Personally, I’m against cherry-picking the Constitution. Which clauses/amendments do you think I’m ignoring?

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 10:27 PM | Link to this

finch,

If you scroll back you’ll see it’s started more as a joke. I don’t think Delay’s lawyers are going to let Ronnie Earle get away with endless stall tactics.

Once he got his indictment he needed to be ready to go. I’m pretty sure you’re not supposed to charge people with crimes and then start looking for evidence.

The Sixth amendment, the one I linked in my earlier question, should eventually have to come into play.

By finch

January 9, 2006 10:36 PM | Link to this

RW,

I see your point. You have to wonder, though, why the Texas (GOP) courts haven’t called Earle on this. But they’re not cutting DeLay much slack at all. Meanwhile, it’s hard to argue that Ronnie is NOT a little, eentsy, teentsy, tiny bit partisan. Sometimes.

Ya know?

By RW-(the original)

January 9, 2006 10:46 PM | Link to this

finch,

I never understood his lawyers appealing to have the charges thrown out and at the same time demanding it be sent back for immediate trial.

It was doubtful that the appeals court would throw out a valid grand jury indictment and if you’re arguing for that it’s hard to show simultaneous proof that you aren’t being given a speedy trial. But his lawyers know a lot more than I do.

My guess is now that they don’t have the motion to dismiss on the table they will demand a speedy trial and have it either granted or have a better case to appeal for it.

By rushncap

January 10, 2006 03:16 AM | Link to this

I’m confused, RW, as to why you feel that justice should move at such a pace as not to bore you. I don’t think that should be the case. I think justice should move at the fastest possible rate that still allows it to maximize its correctness. And, yes, in complicated, important cases that takes months, sometimes over a year.

All in indicment means is that there is probable cause to charge someone with a crime. If you actually looked at how our justice system works, you’d notice that it is very common to have someone charged with a crime wait a significant amount of time between being charged and the case going to trial. So just because DeLay happens to be an influential and thoroughly corrupt neocon does not mean that he deserves some sort of special treatment, no matter what he may think. I’m not a lawyer (and neither, I’m sure, are you), but I imagine that an indicament also opens more investigative avenues for the prosecutors, which were not available when DeLay was just under suspicion. I imagine it has become far easier to obtain warrants and interview those associated with the case now that there is the weight of a grand jury behind such maneuvers.

Finally, I notice that you seem to vigorously question the “stalling tactics” of the prosecution, whilst ascribing pure and just motives to DeLay’s lawyers’ attempts to speed this up as much as they can. Why is that? Pure, blatant partisanship? Intellectual dishonesty? Overwhelming gullibility? Both sides are jostling for an upper hand, as always happens in such matters. The fact that you seem to think that only one side is to blame for everything is telling.

By tim

January 12, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

Robertson A pile on the backside of life. If only you could rub something on him to make him disappear.