Mike Luckovich

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 09:20 PM | Link to this

Look it’s rushncap and Ingi.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 09:31 PM | Link to this

…or RW and Ann Coulter

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 09:33 PM | Link to this

….but if you look VERY close, you will notice the word “cAndy” in the hair of Kong.

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 09:42 PM | Link to this

Geezur,

It actually looks alot like Mary Mapes.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 09:45 PM | Link to this

RE: other thread:

RW, you prove my point, everything after “expected” in your post was speculative.

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 09:50 PM | Link to this

Gosh Geezur, do you think that might be why I said expectations? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that that’s what you mean by “expected”.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 09:57 PM | Link to this

So why post unsubstantiated hypotheticals to prop up an arguement if you know it is of no value?

By rushncap

December 13, 2005 10:01 PM | Link to this

Wow, RW, are you getting in on the whole beasiality thing too? Daymn, I swear to god, once they pass the “marriage amendemnt” for these neocons, it’ll be illegal for a man to kiss a man, but redneck hicks like RW and Andy will be lining up for blocks with their livestock to tie the newly-permitted knot. Why is it that the ones who squak about “morality” the loudest are usually the sickest freaks of them all?

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 10:03 PM | Link to this

Geezur,

It’s a poll, all polls are subject to be wrong. It doesn’t stop Mothra from going out every day and spouting a poll of 131 people as if it were gospel in a country of 25 million.

Now, if you want to continue this take it back to the thread it belongs on, there’s an off chance someone here may want to talk about ml’s monkey. (That would be speculation)

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 10:05 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Didn’t I just read somewhere that you appreciate a sense of humor?

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 10:08 PM | Link to this

I’m sure you would love to talk about ml’s monkey….lol

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 10:09 PM | Link to this

Geezur,

LOL, I heard the way that sounded about a nanosecond after I hit post.

By rushncap

December 13, 2005 10:39 PM | Link to this

Yes, RW, I do appreciate a sense of humor.

Wait a second! I think I see what’s going on here. Oh brother… I’m sorry, RW, I didn’t realize you thought you had a sense of humor. Oh, wow, this is a bit awkward. In the future I’ll try to be a bit more sensitive of your feelings, I promise.

By Dusty

December 13, 2005 10:42 PM | Link to this

I wish Luckovich would tell us exactly in precise wording what he is trying to insinuate in this cartoon. Or maybe Cynthia Tucker would like to write a neat little explanation of why the AJC published pointless junk like this.

Most of the bloggers are already posting like a bunch of little boys who just discovered a “bad” word. Why don’t you grow up? Each one is trying to outdo the other with his superior knowledge of things you “should not know”. Please. No more giggling. Just drink your milk and go to bed.

By Scooter

December 13, 2005 10:44 PM | Link to this

Wow, I just saw this cartoon. It i so Mike liberalb^*ch. Keep the religious right depicted as the hate mongerers.

Boy, rebulicans Eisenhower was the first to appoint blacks to high power positions, hoping that would change the publics perception. But the democrats cave to the great society dependency strategy while the rebubs fought for private property rights. Since blacks didn’t get their forty acres after the republicans freed them, the dems displace the blame for their own policy failings. Good work Mike. Maybe they won’t figure it out.

By whynot

December 13, 2005 10:46 PM | Link to this

Dusty, good job contradicting yourself, here i’ll paraphrase your post “uh I dont get it but uh y’all is stupid!”

By whynot

December 13, 2005 10:53 PM | Link to this

Scooter youre a fool the Democrat and Republican party views have both been reversed since that time, Abraham Lincon along with the rest of the Republican party of that time were LIBERALS good god I just used a curse word wait wait I’ll say it again L I B E R A L. your using an advanced vocabulary and some professors writings to cover up the fact that you are ignorant “maybe they won’t figure it out” for your sake. It’s mr. Republican George Bush who wouldn’t sign the voters right act (but of course hes not racist God has chosen him!)

By Dusty

December 13, 2005 10:56 PM | Link to this

whynot, what makes you think I don’t get it? But who wants it? Or maybe you would like to explain it to me?

By whynot

December 13, 2005 11:00 PM | Link to this

Dusty, “I wish Luckovich would tell us exactly in precise wording what he is trying to insinuate in this cartoon”-Dusty Thats why and ther you go contradicting yourself again “I get it uh explain it to me”

By Huh?

December 13, 2005 11:08 PM | Link to this

“Wow, RW, are you getting in on the whole beasiality thing too? Daymn, I swear to god, once they pass the “marriage amendemntâ€? for these neocons, it’ll be illegal for a man to kiss a man,”

If it will be illegal for a man to kiss a man, what will neocons do for sex? I guess they will have to go home to their wives whether they like it or not.

By Dusty

December 13, 2005 11:10 PM | Link to this

whynot,

Luckovich is too timid (cowardly) to put in words what he is trying to insinuate in this cartoon. And I notice you are not overflowing with explanations either. Go ahead. Scooter seemed far afield. Why don’t you give it a try?

By whynot

December 13, 2005 11:15 PM | Link to this

I’d say he’s insinuating the fact that the Repubs are SCARED of the scientific fact of evolution and therefore the movie King Kong is showing that “monkeys” have feelings ex:love of girl but of course thats sacrelig

By Dusty

December 13, 2005 11:34 PM | Link to this

whynot,

You need more than a glass of milk. That three line garbled sentence ending with “‘monkeys’ have feelings ex:love of girl but of course thats sacrelig” is a real winner. Or maybe you would like to try something else? Hillary talking to Howard Dean? Pelosi talking to Ted Kennedy?

By candide

December 14, 2005 04:44 AM | Link to this

The Christian Right is the most self-righteous bunch of idiots known to history — along with the Taliban. Send Falwell and Robertson to Iraq to convert one set of nuts to another crazy religion.

Fundamentalists are psychos.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 05:17 AM | Link to this

It isn’t like the majority of Americans have voted and continue to vote against the pinkos and their weird sexual ideas, why does it always have to be the fault of the “religious right?” Are they trying to gin up an impression of discrimination? Isn’t that like a typical lib, they discriminate against the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ during the Christmas season and then falsely hide behind the skirt of discrimination when trying to protect their bizarre sexual thoughts.

And why the guilt trip? If you are so confident that you guessed properly the function of your reproductive organs, why blame anybody for your rejection? Why not just teach us how you are correct in your a-ssumption.

Merry Christmas!

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 05:45 AM | Link to this

Maybe it’s a little early for BigDaddy, but is Mike implying that liberals are into bestiality? That sure is “progress” by “progressive” standards!

Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

What do you wanna bet this fella was a registered Democrat?

By candide

December 14, 2005 05:59 AM | Link to this

I know the religious Right doesn’t believe in evolution, so how did that gorilla get to be so much smarter than Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson put together? Even dung like Christian fundies can evolve into something better if given time. (More than the 5000 years of biblical creation, however).

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 06:20 AM | Link to this

I got a fun game we can all play: Take Cynthia Tucker’s column and change all of the “wrongfully accused’s” to “murder victim’s” and read it again. It almost makes her seem normal.

Merry Christmas!

By Liberal Texas Democrat

December 14, 2005 06:23 AM | Link to this

Liberation is a never ending process that begins when one frees oneself from the misogynist ranting of middle eastern bronze age nomadic goat herders and their soothsaying jingoist mystics.

By Objective Observer

December 14, 2005 06:36 AM | Link to this

I think ml gets his material from reading this blog. Considerable discussion has been had over the last few days regarding “Brokeback Mountain” even though it had nothing to do with his toons. Now, “King Kong”, giving everybody what he thinks you want, but putting his leftist spin on the subject matter. Bottom line, this cartoon lacks creativity, and isn’t really even funny.

ml, you’re getting very stale, I don’t buy pastries with “blue” mold on them. Put some effort into it next time.

By Objective Observer

December 14, 2005 06:42 AM | Link to this

Candide: You can’t generalize “the faithful” and their beliefs re: evolution. I have reconciled myself to the fact that evolution and divine creation can exist together. We have had the discussion at my church. Guess what! I’m not the only one.

Merry Christmas Candide!

By candide

December 14, 2005 06:52 AM | Link to this

Objective Observer: if God chose evolution as his method of creation he was a fool and a knave, probably both. No, evolution and Christianity are totally at odds, like truth and falsehood. Truth is evolution, lies are Christianity.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 07:12 AM | Link to this

Objective: You will never get anywhere arguing this with the “intelligentsia.” They are just too smart to have an open mind. Us “dummies” will just have to be satisfied with our knowledge that it is impossible to have evolution without having Creation precede it. How can anything “evolve” if it wasn’t first Created?

Stick that in your pond scum and smoke it.

Merry Christmas!

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 07:43 AM | Link to this

Don’t click here unless you want to have a very Merry candide Christmas. I’m serious - don’t. You have been warned.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 07:45 AM | Link to this

it is impossible to have evolution without having Creation precede it - Andy

Andy, here is someone that agrees with you…. And he is, or apparently was, a prominent atheist scholar. Very curious, n’est ce pas?

By Kerry

December 14, 2005 07:47 AM | Link to this

YOu are right; it is impossible to have an evolution without a creation. However, that is not the argument, is it? Isn’t the argument whether or not God placed Adam and Eve in a garden and everthing transpired from there? Or that a Big Bang occured and we slithered eventually out of a primordal ooze? Of course there was a creation! It’s all about which creation you buy. Common sense ONLY points to one…

By cynic

December 14, 2005 07:56 AM | Link to this

Scooter, Dusty and Andy-you’re proof that god does make mistakes.

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 07:59 AM | Link to this

Why Not, thanks for letting me know that I am a fool. I do apologize for my ignorance; for I thought those historic liberals (republicans) were for limiting the power of government to interfere in the lives of individual Americans. How did you like that Kelo vs New London decision, that is the government knows best, reduce competition liberalism that the intelligencia promotes.

They have not switched roles. What has happened is the once republicans have steadily conceded to the dependency game of the democrats since FDR. While it is never enough concessions for the democrats they continue to scream the republicrats are dividing America with their hate. When it is their, I have no ideas other than income redistribution, constant nuanced criticisms that are dividing.

why not, two questions I want you to answer; If government gets its power from the people who depend on it, why should they be educating our children and who insist on that?

An individual can spend their time either making excuses for failure or making progress, why do alleged progressives make so many excuses for others failure?

If government is to take control, like liberals want, what produces self sufficient individuals, coddling or tough love, and which is practiced by which party?

I don’t expect you to see all the lights at once, for you may have a breakdown. Keep pimping the uneducated poor and consolidating that power in Washington.

Candide, have you found out what true fascism is? I hate to see proud ignorance displayed so valiantly.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 08:03 AM | Link to this

Kerry: The Bible is an interpretation by man of God’s Word. It is impossible for man to know all of the secrets of God’s Kingdom. All the authors of the Bible could do was write an account of events that they did not even understand.

Who Created the materials involved in the “big bang,” if there was such a thing? There is no reasoning that can do away with the existence of a Higher Power. It is literally impossible.

Merry Christmas!

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 08:05 AM | Link to this

The evolotionist haven’t been instructed to talk about string theory and parralel realities that sometimes touch, creating black holes, and/or worm holes. These holes are thought to be able to transfer matter and energy from one reality to the other, hmmm.

Quantum Mechanics and the theory of relativity don’t realy jive together.

By Marion of Texas

December 14, 2005 08:17 AM | Link to this

Kudos to Mike Luckovich. This is hilarious! I burst out laughing as soon as I read it. Thanks, Mike, for getting my day started with a good, hearty laugh.

P.S. It’s a cartoon, people. Enjoy a good laugh for once and lay off the vicious and ridiculous attacks on Mike and on one another, please! Sheesh.

By Lil' Hottie

December 14, 2005 08:21 AM | Link to this

Well I have a question about the evolution/intelligent design debate. A lot of you are saying that their HAD to be a creator. Well who created the creator!?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 08:23 AM | Link to this

How come whenever the pinkos are made to look ridiculous some pipsqueak will come out and say “it’s just a cartoon, can’t we all get along?” But when the libs think they have a slight opening on a Con, 9 or 10 of them will crawl out from under their rocks and pile on?

Just wondering.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 08:28 AM | Link to this

LilHottie: Look up to 8:03. It’s a mystery of God’s Kingdom that we just can’t or were not meant to understand. Someday we will.

Merry Christmas!

By Lil' Hottie

December 14, 2005 08:34 AM | Link to this

Gotcha Andy. I just think it’s funny when people have this debate and one side says evolution this ooze that, and the other side says nothing just appears — EXCEPT God.

But you are right, NO ONE knows, probably never will.

By Steve

December 14, 2005 08:37 AM | Link to this

I believe ML says a lot thru this cartoon. He knew most certainly that the right wing would go over the edge on this one (just compare the number of posts on this thread to other cartoon threads). While many posts have rambled all around the issues, it all boils down to a simple question: Does Homo Sapiens evolve from an ape-like creature, or from an act of God? There is considerable proof to support the former position, and NONE to support the latter.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 08:39 AM | Link to this

Lil Hottie: So you agree that there is a lot more to it than just evolution?

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 08:41 AM | Link to this

Steve: Where did the “ape like creature” come from? The movies?

Merry Christmas!

By Lil' Hottie

December 14, 2005 08:44 AM | Link to this

Andy, I agree that we don’t know, and probably will never know. I believe in God and my religion, but I also have questions.

I know it’s a bad analogy, but it’s like the whole who shot JFK mystery. A LOT of people believe they know, but no one knows for sure.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 08:47 AM | Link to this

Let me save Steve the trouble of thought. Steve, take your bowl of Gerber’s and hit it with your fist. The cereal sprayed all over your bib and highchair is a result of the “big bang,” get it? The mess you “created” is earth. Where did the gerbers come from? Mommy? We’re getting closer…..

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 08:51 AM | Link to this

Steve,

I believe ML says a lot thru this cartoon. He knew most certainly that the right wing would go over the edge on this one (just compare the number of posts on this thread to other cartoon threads).

Current cartoon: 51

True Meaning Christmas: 231

Special interest Christmas: 515

Saddam Trial: 360

Double Condis: 264

New Orleans: 284

Medicare: 308

In to stay: 486

Your point?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 08:52 AM | Link to this

Lil Hottie: Evolution is the changing over time of a species to adapt to it’s “habitat” (for lack of a better word.) I totally agree with this. If we didn’t adapt we would die and this would defeat God’s purpose. He built evolution into us so that we could survive. It still doesn’t excuse the Creation. It never can be excused. You can’t evolve something that doesn’t exist. It has to be created first.

Merry Christmas!

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 08:58 AM | Link to this

RW: have you heard from Geezus this morning? Do you think this is a coincedence?

By getalife

December 14, 2005 08:59 AM | Link to this

First it was Christmas, then gay cowboys now it is King Kong, what is next for the God-Warriors to go off on? The Easter bunny?

By Terry

December 14, 2005 08:59 AM | Link to this

Hey cAndy, I like the bib one….nice.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 09:00 AM | Link to this

getalife, I was saving the Margueritte Perrin references for when This Justin shows back up…

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 09:03 AM | Link to this

For those who see evolution in this woman being ashamed of her relationship with a gorilla and insist on strict creationism, evolution presents itself evryday. That is if your blind faith will allow you to see it. Viruses, Bacteria and insects evolve through natural selection to ensure the survival of the fittest and humans change the formulas of their anti-bacterial soaps. Liberals simply haven’t figured out how to manibulate the ecological balance, so they can gain life meaning through their activism for the oppressed bacteria and virus.

Steve, if Mike liberalb^*ch was funning on evolution, why does the damsels relationship with the gorilla have anything to do with it. Liberals can relate some to gorillas free of consequence, hmmm?

can’t wait to see what the liberals read into that statement.

By Bill

December 14, 2005 09:04 AM | Link to this

“Don’t worry about the liberals, though; bestiality is perfectly fine with them.”

By Terry

December 14, 2005 09:05 AM | Link to this

I think it is hilarious that somehow this thread shifted to evolution. Personally, I think the toon is illustrating the neo-sensitive, knee-jerk reactions of the religious right (only the extremist position - not anyone who is religious) and ml is using a popular reference (Kong - which isa the topic of a highly anticipated upcoming film) as the vehicle.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 09:07 AM | Link to this

Sherry: Well thank you, it was easy to understand, wasn’t it?

getalife: No, dude, we’ll leave you and your Easter bunny alone, maybe we could do the egg hunt this morning? I like to hide eggs in the road for kids like you.

Merry Christmas!

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 09:09 AM | Link to this

Maybe it’s due to my lack of discernable brain function, but I just don’t see The Scribbler’s work today as having anything to do with evolution. To me, The Scribbler is saying that liberals like to have carnal relations with animals and conservatives don’t like that.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that… - Second item.

Hey, whatever floats your boat…

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 09:11 AM | Link to this

Scooter: Perfect example of liberal evolution- “BrokeDick Mountain.” Or is that “ComeonmyBack Mountain?” I forget.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 09:14 AM | Link to this

BigD: Candide cackled at the break of dawn about evolution. It was on then. See up ^^ for a recap.

Merry Christmas!

By Bill

December 14, 2005 09:15 AM | Link to this

The cartoon is overtly racist. Why wouldn’t anyone on the left or right be appalled that a human female is having sexual relations with a gorilla? Clearly he’s making an allusion to interracial sex. Only liberal cartoonists can get away with comparing African-Americans to gorillas.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 09:15 AM | Link to this

Andy, I did see that, but didn’t feel that it warranted much of a response. The day candide is allowed to lead the discussion is the day the terrorists have won…

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 09:21 AM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

I thought Geezur was just talking psychobabble, had I only known it was the tacos….

OT, if that’s possible here, behind the scenes pictures from the Tookie vigil

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 09:21 AM | Link to this

BigD: Any time I see a chance to disprove some silly pinko theory, it matters not to me who presented the oportunity.

Merry Christmas!

By Lil' Hottie

December 14, 2005 09:23 AM | Link to this

Bill, the fact that your mind even conjurs up that correlation is sickening — jokingly or not!

By getalife

December 14, 2005 09:25 AM | Link to this

And Bill plays the race card. If you want to read something funny, look at yesterday’s thread and read what Andy did to the new guy Kevin.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 09:31 AM | Link to this

I don’t no why this pertains to today’s events but poor little Kevin asked for it-

By Kevin

December 13, 2005 11:02 AM | Link to this

Hi. I think we’re forgetting about the Agnostic, Atheist, Baha’i Faith, Buddhism, Deity, Druid, Eckankar, Ethical Culture, Hindu, Humanist, Jewish, Muslim, Native American Spirituality, New Age, Pagan, Rastafarian, Santeria, Scientologist, Secular, Sikh, Spiritualist, Taoist, Unitarian Universalist, Wiccan, etc. when we talk about Christmas.

P.S. How can 59,054,087 people be so dumb?(Source: London Daily Mirror)

Merry Christmas!

By Andys

December 14, 2005 09:32 AM | Link to this

What a bunch of ninnies you all are! Think about what King Kong is about. King Kong is a tragic love story about the humanity of all creatures, great or small. It’s about Man exploiting something that he can’t understand but thinks he can control. It’s about fighting for your freedom, and recognizing beauty and goodness in that beauty.

The joke is on the religious right’s (and many posters) kneejerk reaction to a fictional giant gorilla thinking he’s in love with a blond in a slip (did you see Naomi Watts on the cover of Vanity Fair? I don’t blame him!!!).

Get a life. It’s like flipping a lightswitch. Mike’s got your number, and it’s big Zero.

By Bill

December 14, 2005 09:33 AM | Link to this

Don’t blame me that Mike is a racist. Just explain to me what he could possibly be alluding to, if not interracial sex.

By Bill

December 14, 2005 09:39 AM | Link to this

Mike is a blatant racist. Look how he portrays blacks in his cartoons: look at the strip two below, “Special Interest Christmas;” all of his black characters have big wide noses and big lips.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 09:40 AM | Link to this

Andys: King Kong is a movie, dude. Is this where you derive your life examples from? That’s kind of shallow, don’t you think?

Naomi Watts looks like Katie Cuoric (spelling?) and that ruins it for me. Besides she looks rode hard and put up wet.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 09:42 AM | Link to this

Bill,

ml is just taking a current movie (albeit in about it’s 50th remake) and using it to try to provoke religious people. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you read the comments so far it isn’t working. The very same conversations can be found on just about every thread on this board.

By candide

December 14, 2005 09:47 AM | Link to this

In a debate on evolution Bishop Wilberforce asked Thomas Huxley whether he was descended from an ape on his mother’s or his father’s side. In so doing the good bishop revealed that he himself was descended from an a*.(That won’t get through, from a donkey, then).

The Falwells and Robertsons are following in Wilberforce’s donkey-like steps.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 09:50 AM | Link to this

RW: It’s more of a vehicle to reinforce the lib hatred of God as an overburdening busy body. It labels the concerns of the “religious right” as petty. Your typical pinko would look at this and say ” yeah, I know, aren’t they so nosy?”

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 09:51 AM | Link to this

Candide: Where did the a-ss come from?

Merry Christmas!

By Bill

December 14, 2005 09:58 AM | Link to this

Candide must work for The New York Times the way he revises history to be the way he WISHES it were. Here is Huxley’s actual response Wilbeforce:

“I asserted…that a man has no reason to be ashamed of having an ape for his grandfather. If there were an ancestor whom I should feel shame in recalling, it would rather be a man, a man of restless and versatile intellect, who, not content with…success in his own sphere of activity, plunges into scientific questions with which he has no real acquaintance, only to obscure them by an aimless rhetoric, and distract the attention of his hearers from the real points at issue by eloquent digressions and skilled appeals to religious prejudice.”

It’s still pretty funny; just to not to guys like Candide who don’t get it.

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 10:03 AM | Link to this

Andy,

That was pretty much my point, it only reinforces the liberal stereotype of religious people as hypersensitive and intolerant. i.e. easily provoked by a cartoon that in the mind of the scribbler places them in a bad light.

When the reverse is true. “Enlightened” moonbats are some of the most intolerant people you can find.

By Ricky

December 14, 2005 10:05 AM | Link to this

RW, that is one of the biggest lies going in politics. The liberals claim they are the tolerant ones, when in fact that are intolerant to anything that doens’t match up with their views. Religion, war, abortion are all examples of this

By Bill

December 14, 2005 10:08 AM | Link to this

Libs: “God, I can’t stand intolerant people!”

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 10:12 AM | Link to this

Ricky,

That’s why they will throw every vile accusation they can think of at their opponent and then claim the opponent is dividing the country without a tinge of guilt.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 10:19 AM | Link to this

That’s why everything Ann Coulter say is “hate speech.”

Merry Christmas!

By getalife

December 14, 2005 10:21 AM | Link to this

Nice Spin

By Eric

December 14, 2005 10:22 AM | Link to this

No liberal wants the government to take over the lives of anyone. That’s just stupid. The Bible is a work of literature. To say that it’s an interpretation of God’s word is supremely arrogant and presumptuous. Anyone can make the proclamation that they are interpreting God’s word. That doesn’t make it so. You right wingers are totally pathetic. I’ve never seen such a pitiful group of nonthinkers all in one place. You really are rather disgusting. You claim to be morally superior, but the truth is that you’re just the opposite. What a bunch of hypocrites. Out.

By Bill

December 14, 2005 10:22 AM | Link to this

…but nothing that Michael Moore says is.

By Ricky

December 14, 2005 10:28 AM | Link to this

Eric, people like you who lump large numbers of people into a single insult are just as bad as Micheal Mooore, Al Franken, Ann Coulter, and the other fringe ideologues. You obviously can’t argue a specific idea on your own so you just revert to insults and generalizations. Why don’t you attempt to debate a single issue on its merits and facts.

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 10:29 AM | Link to this

Andy wannabe, of course libs base many of their opinions from Hollywood. Did anyone notice the many similarities between Kerry’s depictions of Vietnam and Apacolypse Now? Kerry did so much during his four years in country, but the libs ate it up.

Could that have had something to do with Apacolypse Now’s planting the seed in their feeble minds and a democrat exploiting it? Noooo, democrats don’t exploit ignorance so they can pimp for dependence and solidify their power. I don’t think Rush said that, but then again I don’t listen to him.

The Swift Boaters should have been silenced under free speech, since they haven’t been sued for libel or slander.

Hail to the welfare state, so the libs can sooth their conscience with the achievers money! Private charity, with results, doesn’t matter unless government can get its corrupt and inneficient hands in on the wealth redistribution, right libs.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 10:29 AM | Link to this

Eric, are you the nice fella who claims to “know” me?

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 10:31 AM | Link to this

Carl Levin and Harry Reid are doing a prebuttal to the Presidents speech.

Carl Levin just said this Iraqi election marks the beginning of a civil war. That pretty well sums up the liberal position on free elections.

By gadem

December 14, 2005 10:35 AM | Link to this

The news for the economy keeps getting better and better

By getalife

December 14, 2005 10:36 AM | Link to this

RW, He was saying if the Constitution is not changed to get the Sunnis more involved, then there will be a civil war.

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 10:36 AM | Link to this

Update:

Jack Reed is there too saying he has sent a letter to the President demanding a “cut and run” schedule.

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 10:39 AM | Link to this

getalife,

That was his rambling explanation to his blanket statement. Like a good liberal he took both sides of his own position.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 10:39 AM | Link to this

“Legend has it, everytime you say ‘Happy Holidays’ an angel gets AIDS.” - John Stewart on last night’s The Daily Show.

I don’t care what side of the political aisle you come from - that’s funny.

By Bill

December 14, 2005 10:41 AM | Link to this

Libs, should we formally surrender before we cut and run? Or should we just cut and run?

By getalife

December 14, 2005 10:42 AM | Link to this

gadem, I asked yesterday about GM laying off 30,000 American workers and then going to India to build their cars and wanted to know how this is helping the American workers?

By getalife

December 14, 2005 10:44 AM | Link to this

RW, At least it is a plan instead of the old stay the course plan.

By Bill

December 14, 2005 10:45 AM | Link to this

Separated at birth? Like the famous parrot said, “You know”

http://georgiadogs.collegesports.com/football/history/Tailback-U/walker_herschel.shtml

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 10:45 AM | Link to this

getalife - while the layoffs certainly don’t help the American workers who were laid off, it does help American consumers and GM stockholders.

By candide

December 14, 2005 10:47 AM | Link to this

Bill: your accurate quote from Huxley can be summed up as I did: Wilberforce showed himself to be a burro.

By getalife

December 14, 2005 10:47 AM | Link to this

Big Daddy, So the middle class is screwed.

By gadem

December 14, 2005 10:49 AM | Link to this

Big Daddy how is it helping the consumers? I will bet my life that the price of cars does not decrease one bit…if you believe that I have a great business idea to sell you.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 10:51 AM | Link to this

getalife, no, not at all. Your assertion assumes that the middle class doesn’t buy GM products or own GM stock. I would disagree on both counts. The majority of GM offerings are for middle-class consumers. The middle class has also increased their stock holdings - though that is primarily through mutual funds, many of which rely heavily on Dow stocks in order to mitigate risk across holdings via diversified portfolios.

By Ricky

December 14, 2005 10:52 AM | Link to this

getalife, jobs being outsourced is part of capitalism. If a company can produce its product at a cheaper rate in a foreign country it will do so. Free trade is good for all parties. And yes while the workers getting laid off are adversely affected, the overall net result is good for America. Now with that being said, the gov’t needs to do something to help those laid off workers out. Whether it be new skill training etc.

By Bill

December 14, 2005 10:54 AM | Link to this

I guess by “middle class” he means people who do their retirement planning in the lottery line.

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 10:54 AM | Link to this

RW, At least it is a plan instead of the old stay the course plan. by, getalife.

Stay the course of having a January 30th handover of power, June 30th election of a provisional constitutional authority, etc… Train the once terrorized sect of Iraqis to defend themselves, as to help prevent a civil war (assuming the shia can refrain from revenge). All of the plan has worked while the libs criticized and predicted things would not happen. Now they simply want us to premayurely retreat to the outskirts, so their predictions of failure will be almost garaunteed. Then they can return to the leadership of income redistribution and social engineering. Or, the right can continue to try and legislate moprality.

By getalife

December 14, 2005 10:58 AM | Link to this

Andy, Lets see if the President changes his plan on his last speech today. It is political now, so he should be able to sell it better.

By Ricky

December 14, 2005 10:58 AM | Link to this

gadem, have you seen the recent decreases in vehicle costs. On avg vehicles are at a 5 yr low for prices according to consumer reports. Outscourcing jobs does decrease price. Bill Clinton saw the beneift of free trade, thats why he signed off on NAFTA

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 10:58 AM | Link to this

getalife, those jobs help consumers by forcing your unions to shed the lay deads and sorry arses and compete in a global market. Your unions entitle them and they will certainly take the path of least resistance, while those still yurniong arond the world will out preform them. Who would have though it?

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this

getalife,

At 1:00PM Mothra will be back out telling us to “redeploy to the periphery” because “80% of Iraqis want us out and 45% think it’s ok to kill Americans’

Last time he told us the periphery was Kuwait and Okinawa, this link shows how close Okinawa is ti Bahgdad

By sct

December 14, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this

Great news everyone! The budget deficit for November 2005 was 83.06 billion dollars compared to 57.9 billion a year ago, becoming a record month. Analysts were forecasting 76 billion dollars.

By getalife

December 14, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this

Andy, I have never been in a union but have worked around people who were in unions. I saw the lay deads and sorry a-s-ses were the non union management and not the workers.

By getalife

December 14, 2005 11:06 AM | Link to this

RW, How far from the border of Iraq to Kuwait?

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 11:12 AM | Link to this

getalife,

The borders have nothing to do with the areas of concern and Mothra only wants to keep a quick strike force there.

I’ll defer to Ricky or Andy as I’m not military, but my understanding is a quick strike force is a fast moving, light armored unit. I don’t think that’s what you want to send back in to an area that you have just allowed to be booby trapped.

Ricky, Andy, Is that last part right?

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 11:13 AM | Link to this

Big Daddy how is it helping the consumers? - gadem

gadem, that is an excellent question - and I’m glad you asked. The consumers gain two ways:

1) competitive pressures in the automobile industry are such that GM has not, for years now, been able to raise their prices to the point where they could cover their costs. GM is also operating in a business environment of declining margins due to the advent of the internet, which has shifted the balance of power from auto-sellers to the consumer. Also, the business environment for auto-manufacturers has become increasingly globalized, as companies move to other countries to avoid tax implications and disparate labor costs. In short, revenues have fallen due to these factors (as well as internal GM problems, but that’s another post). At the same time, due to competitive pressures in the marketplace, prices for automobiles have held relatively steady for years, despite inflation (a de facto “price cut”). But at the same time as revenues have fallen, costs have risen, which brings up point 2:

2) Costs have increased because of rising costs of manufacturing due to agreements they have struck with the UAW (ie, it is more expensive to build cars in the US than in other markets). The unfunded pension liability of GM was getting to the point where bankruptcy was a consideration. So what would be the effect of GM having to shut their doors? Well, more workers would lose their jobs than currently, and consumers would have one less purchasing option that would be able to put competitive pressure on other manufacturers (thereby allowing those others to raise their prices without being undercut). The more competitors in the marketplace, the less ability any one manufacturer has to unilateraly raise prices without losing their marketshare.

I could discuss in more detail, but this post is already a little long. Any follow-up questions?

By Ricky

December 14, 2005 11:13 AM | Link to this

For those of you who think we should start the draw down on troop levels in Iraq, it has already started. It hasn’t been given much press coverage for whatever reason(probably due to the elections and other major news) but the pentagon canceled the scheduled deployment of two bridages worth of soldiers. That amounts to about 15,000 soldiers.

By Ricky

December 14, 2005 11:16 AM | Link to this

RW, yes most QRF’s are composed of light forces. It is kinda of hard to move tanks and bradleys quickly. So yeah if we were to have a QRF that would have the mission of getting on the ground in 24-36 hours it would be a light force, not the kind you need in an urban envrrionment.

By Bill

December 14, 2005 11:16 AM | Link to this

When we cut and run, should we have a formal surrender signing ceremony? Representative Mutha can give a speech apologizing on behalf of all of us American infidel pigs. The terrorists can call it VA Day (think VJ Day). Nancy Reid and Harry Pelosi can hold photo-ops with the newly re-“elected” President of Iraq Saddam Hussein.

By sickoftheneocons

December 14, 2005 11:23 AM | Link to this

I’m wondering if Iraq will turn into another Isreal…not saying Iraq will turn Jewish but will they have the same security problems that Isreal has? Isreal is a free, stable, democratic, autonomous country that has a suicide bomber blow himself up every couple of weeks just to take out as many citizens as possible. How many escaped Baathists and Al-Quida henchman will infiltrate a free, stable, democratic, autonomous Iraq just to kill off as many citizens as possible? I mean we already have terrorist spokesmen saying they will do whatever possible to make sure Iraq doesn’t become democratic. I know that we have suicide bombers in Isreal because of an avowed intifada against Isreali’s but the terrorists currently trying to prevent the free Iraqi elections will not stop just because they are held…thoughts?

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 11:24 AM | Link to this

sct, those defecits, while I don’t like them, are needed right now. I am glad that other nations believe in this country more than you so they will allow us to borrow from them.

Those Raeagan defecits that my grand kids were supposed to be paying for, I am in my late twenties, well Clinton balanced that budget by the time I was 24 and still had no kids, let alone grandkids. It was too bad that in order to balance he had to tax and kill a good economy. Or, allow corporations to create one stop shops for corporations. So, his dying economy would hold out till the next president took over and had to deal with it.

How would social democracy perform without a capitalist nation in the world? The libs want us to find out.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 11:25 AM | Link to this

the gov’t needs to do something to help those laid off workers out. Whether it be new skill training etc - Ricky

Ricky, I disagree with that sentiment. It is not up to you or I, or any other taxpayer for that matter, to ensure that people have job skills. It is up to each individual person to maximize their utility in the job market. I’m pretty sure that the UAW has contingency clauses that cover these types of situations where GM is responsible for some portion of job placement/training for those downsized.

Now, I appreciate your sentiment, but it is evidence of “Compassionate Conservatism.” And I think we have learned recently that “Compassionate Conservatism” is almost just like socialism, just sprayed with a little perfume…

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 11:27 AM | Link to this

Sick of, we all wonder, but that doesn’t mean that UN cease fire agreements should continue top be ignored. Or dictators should be threatened into compliance by paper cuts from resolutions.

By Ricky

December 14, 2005 11:28 AM | Link to this

BigDaddy, I disagree on the job training. The economy as a whole will benefit from it because we will be able to enter new workers that are skilled into the workforce. Plus, I would rather spend the money teaching someone to work that to spend the money on the welfare checks they will start drawing if they don’t work

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 11:30 AM | Link to this

Amen Big Daddy, give up the compassion and replace it with tough love, but that would be offensive and the left’s quest for political correctness would never allow it. I am glad my parents didn’t coddle me into uselessness.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 11:33 AM | Link to this

Ricky, then perhaps you could set up a private fund to which private citizens could donate to assist people with job training. Actually, I’m sure many exist already - many if fact exist in faith-based organizations (a use of churches with which even candide could not disagree… well, maybe not…). My solution to keep them off of welfare checks would be to eliminate the possibility all together - welfare is a destructive economic force. The lack of any income other than a severance package certainly would be a powerful persuader for individuals to get new job skills in a hurry.

By getalife

December 14, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this

New strategy: 9/11 to Iraq again, Saddam was a threat, wmd’s not correct he took blame and said he fixed the problem, the choice to go to war was Saddam’s choice, stay the course. 125 Iraq and police battalions from only a handful. Concentrate on training to hunt terrorists. Set milestones for their government. Nodded off, woke up, speech over.

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 11:41 AM | Link to this

getalife, glad you fell a sleep so your “Reid it for you” leader can tell you it was nothing new. Well nothing that they haven’t already misled you about. Ignorance is bliss amongst the dependent and ignorant.

By Ricky

December 14, 2005 11:45 AM | Link to this

getalife, here are some numbers for you since you fell asleep. During the elections in Jan there were around 115,000 Iraqi Army and Iraqi Police helping our forces with security. For tomorrow’s elections there will be around 225,000. So we are making progress on that front. Also the Sunni leaders are urging that sect to go vote. The situation in Iraq is improving. As I posted earlier the pentagon has cancelled the deployment of two brigades worth of soldiers, showing that we can start to draw down on our forces currently in country

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 11:46 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Don’t worry we’ll get you a transcipt in a few minutes.

By getalife

December 14, 2005 11:47 AM | Link to this

Andy, Actually , I am waiting on what Mr. Murtha has to say.

By getalife

December 14, 2005 11:49 AM | Link to this

Thanks RW, it kind of sounded like we are buying an ally?

By getalife

December 14, 2005 11:56 AM | Link to this

Ricky, He said 125 police and army battalions (300-1000)?

By Ricky

December 14, 2005 11:59 AM | Link to this

getalife, I am getting my numbers for the DOD. The 225,000 is a combination of the police and army

By getalife

December 14, 2005 12:04 PM | Link to this

Ricky, I am guessing that the battalion would be 1000 and the President said 125. So, the DOD is overestimating by 100000. Makes me wonder about the economic numbers.

By Bill

December 14, 2005 12:07 PM | Link to this

“Thanks RW, it kind of sounded like we are buying an ally?”

— kinda like Jimmy Carter did with Egypt, dillweed?

By getalife

December 14, 2005 12:10 PM | Link to this

Bill, Let me guess, wingnut?

By getalife

December 14, 2005 12:12 PM | Link to this

And you are a big fan of Ann?

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 12:15 PM | Link to this

Wow, from a dig at the hardcore religious right using King Kong to unsupported economic theories. All in +/-133 posts…amazing.

By Bill

December 14, 2005 12:17 PM | Link to this

“Bill, Let me guess, wingnut?”

Wrong! Independent.

Ok, now my turn, leftist?

By getalife

December 14, 2005 12:20 PM | Link to this

Wrong! Independent. I am not a pinko lib or wingnut, but do support right from wrong.

By getalife

December 14, 2005 12:22 PM | Link to this

Did we invade Egypt?

By Bill

December 14, 2005 12:23 PM | Link to this

Or perhaps socialist ?

By getalife

December 14, 2005 12:26 PM | Link to this

So, you do not believe in the freedoms you enjoy. I say, let Ann speak!

By Bill

December 14, 2005 12:27 PM | Link to this

“Did we invade Egypt?”

No, we bought them off like you said we were doing with Iraq, Dillweed. Pay attention, now. Try to keep up. I know this is complicated.

By getalife

December 14, 2005 12:29 PM | Link to this

Can you read?it kind of sounded like we are buying an ally?�

By Bill

December 14, 2005 12:30 PM | Link to this

Sure, Ann can speak all she wants. I don’t even have to agree with her, which I usually This is a free country, despite what the campus leftists feel about her.

By getalife

December 14, 2005 12:31 PM | Link to this

Let Ann speak then heckle her off the stage.

By Bill

December 14, 2005 12:32 PM | Link to this

**it kind of sounded like you are a moron,” Dillweed.

By getalife

December 14, 2005 12:35 PM | Link to this

You should go back and read what you posted moron.

By Bill

December 14, 2005 12:39 PM | Link to this

Let go of your hate, dude. It’s poisoning you.

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 12:39 PM | Link to this

I have been noticing how the lefty socialist like to use the words they now describe them and displace them onto their opponents. Like fascist or hate speech etc.. Of course these are not the getalifes, Brian Curtis’s or rushncaps, they are not capable of leading for they are simply the led astray individuals. Led astray and are unknowingly helping government gain great power over the populace. But, they are ignorant of the outcome they pursue.

If they truly wanted the power back to the people they would open their minds and discuss the Fair Tax rather than listening to what the conflict of interest democratic “leaders” tell them.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 12:42 PM | Link to this

Bill, for what it’s worth, getalife is one of the least hate-filled people with whom I’ve had the pleasure of coming into contact on this board.

I’ve found that when you antagonize people by calling them “dillweed” or “moron” they’ll repond in kind. Granted, the exchanges can be humorous, but it’s not quite higher discourse, is it?

By getalife

December 14, 2005 12:44 PM | Link to this

Okay dude, what do you think you know about me besides being a moron and dillweed? Follow your own advice .

By Bill

December 14, 2005 12:45 PM | Link to this

Aw, getalife (so to speak). It’s all in fun. You’re looking for higher discourse on a cartoon web blog?

By getalife

December 14, 2005 12:46 PM | Link to this

My point exactly!

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 12:46 PM | Link to this

So that’s what a debate between “independents” looks like.

The left gets their way

By Bill

December 14, 2005 12:48 PM | Link to this

What’s your point exactly? That you’re a moron and a dillweed?

By getalife

December 14, 2005 12:50 PM | Link to this

This pointIt’s all in fun. You’re looking for higher discourse on a cartoon web blog?

By Bill

December 14, 2005 12:51 PM | Link to this

Oh

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 12:51 PM | Link to this

RW: nice get! Before Mary Mapes and Dan Rather could conceive of “fake but accurate” there was The Onion - the greatest source of news parody there is…

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 12:52 PM | Link to this

and for Scooter - if he is still around - pay attention to paragraph 5

Aparently you are quite a liberal conservative…lol

By Brian Curtis

December 14, 2005 12:58 PM | Link to this

Well, it’s an okay cartoon, but not one of Mike’s best. Really, the religious right? That’s such an easy target—hardly worth insulting.

Scooter’s obsession with injecting the Fair Tax into every discussion continues, I see.

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 12:58 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

The big difference is the Onion understands that it’s parody.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 01:01 PM | Link to this

RW, true dat, true dat. Hey, by the way, I’ve discovered candide’s true identity

Whooda thunkit?

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 01:06 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

I’ll give you credit, no matter the subject all your links seem to have a great looking woman somewhere. (Although I thought I had found out candide was really John Daly, the unemployed professor not the golfer.)

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 01:10 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy does love the ladies… and daytime rushncap…

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 01:12 PM | Link to this

RW: here’s a little more about candide. Curious fellow…

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 01:16 PM | Link to this

RW, just googled the other John Daly - WOW! That guys a piece o’ work. Maybe you’re right…

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 01:20 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

Mike Adams is daytime rushncap????

The John “candide” Daly is the one into fragging. I guess different people become candide for secular discussions.

Late on yesterday’s thread I tracked down Brian Curtis. A cartoon scribbling professor no less.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 01:20 PM | Link to this

RW: maybe it’s a split personality.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 01:25 PM | Link to this

Dr. Brian Curtis: “He is a representational painter whose current series of psycho-mythological narratives explores those transitional, tentative moments that occur between times of purposeful activity. In an age that is often categorized as being in a perpetual state of crisis he seeks, by monumentalizing the ordinary, to reinforce the shared human core that is embedded in everyday experience” - head of the drawing program at NFL Prep U (aka the University of Miami).

With a description like that, no wonder he’s worked to secure a tenured position - I don’t think the private workforce is clamoring for those capabilities. Although we could use a new cartoonist here…

Anyway, what do you want to bet that this must be a required course for the football team?

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 01:28 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

Did you look at any of his “observed urban life” cartoons?

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 01:31 PM | Link to this

RW: I knew Miami could get wild, but this is, “the shared human core that is embedded in everyday experience” in Miami? I am so moving…

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 01:44 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

It will be difficult for you to get your your thrills streaking in that environment.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 01:55 PM | Link to this

RW, I know - I won’t quite stand out as well. I guess I’d have to start looking for some other form of outrageous behavior. Any suggestions?

By Brian Curtis

December 14, 2005 02:06 PM | Link to this

BD, how about Dog Dancing?

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 02:08 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

You could organize a Miami chapter of Raeliens.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 02:15 PM | Link to this

BC - are you asking me on a date? Really, I’m flattered, but I’m with daytime rushncap now.

By Dusty

December 14, 2005 02:20 PM | Link to this

Ah, RW & Big Daddy, you are great! I think you two should open the RW * BD Detective Agency. But, question. Did Luckovich study under Curtis? Their sentiments sound somewhat alike. As to Dr. Curtis and THAT resume, he could get a job in Atlanta City government at any time. Are they not fixing sewers with psycho-mythological narratives right now?

By Brian Curtis

December 14, 2005 02:22 PM | Link to this

Yes BD, when you’re done with rushncap. But I want you to pick up this outfit before hand though.

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 02:28 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry, BC, I’ll dress you however you want…

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 02:31 PM | Link to this

RW: BigDaddy just checked out the Raelians. That dude could not look any creepier. I don’t know if that is an option that will suit me… Any other ideas?

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 02:32 PM | Link to this

Dusty! You ole fertilizer bag! Did you see the haiku I wrote in memory of your exchange with nighttime rushncap?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 02:33 PM | Link to this

Eric and Brian: I have a message for you-

“Anybody who doesn’t appreciate what America has done and President Bush, let them go to hell�– Iraqi Citizen, voter Betty Dawisha

That’s what I’m talking about.

Merry Christmas!

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 02:36 PM | Link to this

Man, first Brian Curtis asks me out here and then he wants me to dress him in this. Guess I was onto something with the “progressives” being into bestiality and all…

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 02:38 PM | Link to this

I’ll bet the Bush guy wouldn’t get naked-

WASHINGTON — Sen. John McCain and President Bush’s national security adviser met Wednesday but failed to reach a compromise on the senator’s proposed ban on cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of foreign terrorism suspects.

Of all the problems that face America, look at what this genius McCain has chosen to tackle.

Merry Christmas!

By buff

December 14, 2005 02:39 PM | Link to this

Would someone please give BigDaddy some of the attention he craves so these mind numbing turbo posts stop.

I’ll start, BigDaddy, you are my hero and so brilliant, yada, yada, yada……..

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 02:41 PM | Link to this

hiya, buff! And thanks!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 02:41 PM | Link to this

BEIRUT, Lebanon — The funeral for a leading newspaper editor slain in a car bomb turned into a massive protest against Syria on Wednesday, drawing more than 100,000 Lebanese who blamed Damascus for the latest in a string of politically motivated killings.

If this keeps up there won’t be anything left for us to invade. We better surrender now!

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 02:43 PM | Link to this

So cAndy, who would you like us to invade next? I hear that Demascus was in the bible, maybe we should start there?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 02:51 PM | Link to this

missuz: Your neighborhood would be awesome but realistically Iran seems to need some serious attitude adjustment. You don’t advocate killing all the Jews in Israel, do you?

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 02:55 PM | Link to this

No, unfortunately for you I do not share your genocidically slanted views.

By Daniel

December 14, 2005 02:57 PM | Link to this

Religious fanatics hurt the USA!

By Brian Curtis

December 14, 2005 03:01 PM | Link to this

Daniel: Well, of course. But it’s different when they’re our religious fanatics.

By Dusty

December 14, 2005 03:02 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy, you old streaker, how could I forget your haiku, your ode to the ordinary stresses of life such as rushncap? Oh, by the way, I only allow rushncap to call me names. He doesn’t know any better so patience is required.

By Daniel

December 14, 2005 03:04 PM | Link to this

I believe we are a great country and people. We are so, due, in no small measure to separation of church and state. Some of the contributors here are frightening.

By Brian Curtis

December 14, 2005 03:11 PM | Link to this

Only if you take them seriously, Daniel. Remember, it’s just a blog.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 03:17 PM | Link to this

Daniel: In the Middle East they would solve your worries of Church and State by “separating” your head from your body.

Merry Christmas!

By Daniel

December 14, 2005 03:21 PM | Link to this

I am an American. We do not strenghten America by imitating them. Ours is a 200+ history of Democracy. They have none. We have dangerously lost our way in the Middle East. Now, I believe we Americans will get this right; we usually do. It is going to be real, real expensive.

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 03:29 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

I was thinking of these raelians

You have to scroll through a couple of end of the world stories to get to the ladies that would make up your court.

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 04:02 PM | Link to this

If anybody is near Freedom Parkway and the Downtown connector, please tell BigDaddy to come down from the overpass and put some clothes on.

By candide

December 14, 2005 04:05 PM | Link to this

Mitt Romney (the son of brainwashed George Romney) intends to run for president. He is a Mormon, as well as an idiot, and thanks to evangelical Christian bigotry he will never make it to the White Haus. Good dat iss!

Two cheers for Christian bigotry!

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 04:10 PM | Link to this

Geezus, I am back and far from a conservative liberal. Your link started off well (the economics and free market part) but couldn’t loose me in the liberal nuance. What liberal nuance you ask? First his demeaning of Karen Hughes assumes that all politicians don’t do the same exact thing and I think they do.

So, Mr. DiLorenzo says our image in the Middle-East is not so good. Was it before we freed the Iraqi’s? If we pull all troops out and handover the bases, once the Iraqi government can defend itself from the Sunnis and foreign terrorist, will our image increase some? Things generally get worse before they get better, especially opinions of change.

He says the Middle East sees through the “neocon� (shows his bias) lies about establishing democracy, because, we support autocratic regimes. Which of these autocratic regimes have invaded foreign neighbors, been known to have and used WMD’s and continually violated a UN cease fire agreement signed with the US.

DiLorenzo says, “The whole world understands that the Bush administration lied the US into a war�, that would be the big lie technique, the whole world has been led to believe it was a lie. You should be familiar with the big lie as Air America has been accusing Bush of it for some time.

Everything else hinges on Mr. DiLorenzo’s naïve presumption that it is not harmful for the world to watch a third world dictator make a mockery of UN resolutions and the UN in general? Geezur why do you not have a problem with the UN being made to look inept by a ruthless tyrant?

It was the typical war opposition read, same nuance, different writer.

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 04:14 PM | Link to this

Candide, have you learned what fascism really is and who supports it

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 04:27 PM | Link to this

scooter - paragraph #5???

By getalife

December 14, 2005 04:28 PM | Link to this

Sceeter, I found this off your link. Notice the Lake Lanier library in Gwinnett County.

By candide

December 14, 2005 04:28 PM | Link to this

Fascism first arose in the Christian church’s denigration of the Jews and the falsification of the real teaching of Jesus, the rejection of the Jewish Christians who alone knew what Jesus had intended. Ever since the best Fascists have been the best Christians.

By candide

December 14, 2005 04:30 PM | Link to this

Perhaps I should have written, the best Christians have been the best Fascists.

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 04:34 PM | Link to this

Geezus, I read the entire thing and commented on it all so don’t come on here and point me to something I have already read.

Candide, I envy your world where religion is the only power. My world contains of the powers of economics, politics and religion. Dou you subscribe to the keep it simple motto, or would you like to tellme about economic fascism and public dependency.

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 04:38 PM | Link to this

Did something go terribly wrong or is Geezur talking to herself?

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 04:43 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Here’s your link to the President’s speech

Did Mothra say anything new today?

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 04:43 PM | Link to this

Wow Scooter, are you double posting with my ID?

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 04:44 PM | Link to this

Yeah the post at 4:34 was me, not G dog.

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 04:46 PM | Link to this

Geezus, Yeah sorry. Haste makes waste, you know.

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 04:47 PM | Link to this

Geezus, since I read your article, would you answer my question for yourself and Mr. DeLemonza, or whatever his name was?

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 04:47 PM | Link to this

So Scooter, I’m confused…are you a Neo-conservative or ultra-liberal? You see, Mr. DiLorenzo swings pretty far to the left.

By getalife

December 14, 2005 04:48 PM | Link to this

RW, He was on CNN and they cut away to another story but it was the same argument. If I read the President speech, I will nod off again. What happenned to Geezus?

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 04:50 PM | Link to this

New advertising slogan for the AJC:

“Read the AJC. We’re not afraid to ask the tough questions!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 04:50 PM | Link to this

missuz: I typed paranoia in google and, wa la, here you go. It’s a perfect fit for the raging pinko in you.

Maybe He’ll Immerse Himself In It For A Few Days

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 04:52 PM | Link to this

Since I took many economics classes in college ii am a free market conservative, but a social liberal. The main difference for me is that I see the immense power to the government and helplessness created by democratic and liberal policies. Granted, with the republicrats you get the Terry Schiavo, war on drugs and the general legislation of morality.

I think Matt Stone and Trey Parker said; I really hate republicans, but I really, really hate democrats. that pretty much wraps it up for me.

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 04:53 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Read the first paragraph, it was pretty funny live.

I saw Mothra on CNN for a second with the reporter talking over him. Fox, MSNBC, and C-SPAN 1,2, & 3 didn’t cover him at all. Did you know he was the first to call for cut-and-run from Somalia too?

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 04:54 PM | Link to this

Geezus, sorry for posting under your handle again. I was pretty sure I listed Scooter.

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 04:54 PM | Link to this

Cool, now stop posting under my name

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 04:54 PM | Link to this

Condi, kill the ones with the suicide belts on…

Bush gives Rice the lead role in war zones

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 04:56 PM | Link to this

Iran’s Ahmadinejad says Holocaust a myth

Andy says Iran’s Ahmadinejad is a piece of…

Merry Christmas!

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 04:57 PM | Link to this

Cool, now tell me why you don’t have aproblem with Saddam making a mockery of the UN and their resolutions?

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 04:58 PM | Link to this

Scooter, Geezur,

Are you sharing a computer and arguing here? If so I’ll give you some blog dollars to head out for a few beers, you may need them.

5,10,20..There.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 05:01 PM | Link to this

Dems: Bush’s Iraq Plans Lacking

Let me guess, he forgot to bring the white flag?

Merry Christmas!

By getalife

December 14, 2005 05:03 PM | Link to this

RW, That was good I missed it, at least he does have a sense of humor.

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 05:03 PM | Link to this

RW, 20 blog dollars? Granted I do have hookers and drug dealers in my neighborhood, but I think the ladies are running for ten dollars a “piece”. After drinking Geezus may need two of the former and a dabble in the latter.

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 05:06 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

Tell them the exchange rate on blog dollars is infinity. They will never run out.

Nice neighborhood!

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 05:07 PM | Link to this

I’ll have to check back later…it’s a pain in the a$s having to deal with Microsoft

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 05:16 PM | Link to this

Rw, it’s sad, but the girls would believe it. The way P-Tail would explain it them would be bad.

As far as the neighborhood, it helps keep me grounded and I’ve always been an optimist. So I say, I can go out the front door and be back with a crack rock and a hooker in under five minutes. Now how many people can do that?

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 05:21 PM | Link to this

We’ll see if Geezus ever answers that question, when he gets back on his Apple. Hopefully I will run into him in a bar, cause it’s the best to get them to nut up in their nuance right in front of other people. The cocktail only adds to the pleasure of exposing their miguided and shortsighted notions.

By RW-(the original)

December 14, 2005 05:26 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

I might be able to do that, but my Spanish is pathetic. I do know I can buy sandwiches out of a plastic box on a woman’s head.

Would these come in handy at that bar?

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 05:29 PM | Link to this

for cAndy….252 fits pretty well, though I do like 256 and 321

By BigDaddy

December 14, 2005 05:37 PM | Link to this

Geezus, thank you - that link is hysterical.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 05:45 PM | Link to this

missuz: I’m real glad to see you got your apple back up and running. It would have been easier for you to read the Bible than the link you sent me or you could have asked John Kerry-

I believe in the existential existence of a nominally more powerful being than the current DNC chairman, which reminds me of my service in Cambodia, blah, blah, blah

Merry Christmas!

By RW

December 14, 2005 06:09 PM | Link to this

If you have to speak spanish to get it, it has been cut too many times. Head sandwiches are not a bad thing and those would certainly come in handy at the bar. I could possibly buy some votes with it. Time to go get indocrinated by Faux News and Brit Hume, or reprogrammed since my exit form college, whatever. Either way we know that I am incapable of individual thought, unlike our liberal friends who were blessed with an inherent understanding of all things.

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 06:12 PM | Link to this

Scooter:

What question am I suppose to be answering?

Whomever:

Yes, I have an Apple (OS 8.6, 9, & 10.X), I also have a FreeBSD box, Solaris Box, Fedora box, XP pro (preferred) box, SBS 2003 box, 2000 Advanced Server box, 2000 Pro box, & am also running a patched up version of Vista (I am also running a 95/98/NT 4.0 tri-boot machine) I’ll leave the Cisco’s and SonicWall (among others) off the list. What is the point?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 06:16 PM | Link to this

missuz: How many of them are running pornography right now? Is it male or female porn?

Merry Christmas!

By candide

December 14, 2005 06:17 PM | Link to this

You cannot escape the role of religion. Religion is the chief form of the alienation of man from his true nature. Only when religion is abolished can man be free.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 06:18 PM | Link to this

Below are the approval ratings from Zogby’s poll for key Washington, D.C., leaders. The poll was based on 1,013 interviews nationwide and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

Job Approval Ratings

President Bush: 38%

Vice President Cheney: 33%

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice: 53%

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: 35%

Senate Democrat Leader Harry Reid: 13%

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist: 21%

House Speaker Dennis Hastert: 20%

House Democrat Leader Nancy Pelosi: 20%

BWAAHAHAHAHAHA

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 06:20 PM | Link to this

no cAndy, I run my porn on a “special” box. (PLEASE don’t ask me to describe it)

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 06:27 PM | Link to this

Raise a Purple Finger for Freedom

Pinkos can substitute work and church with the gay bar and strip club in #9. It’s a typo.

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 06:27 PM | Link to this

you’re celebrating 38 and 33 percent??? At least Condi is pulling decent numbers…if you like 50 percent.

By Andys -Dontwannabe!

December 14, 2005 06:28 PM | Link to this

Well, this Liberal had to work today, not like the lazy neocons argueing all day. Yes, need to get a life.

Scooter, maybe what John Kerry did in Vietnam looked like Apocolypse Now because Coppola is a good director? And he got it right?

And “I wish”, maybe I like the rode hard look. Better than a trophy wife who needs spoon feeding and cash for constant care. Your other comment, King Kong is a movie, dude. Is this where you derive your life examples from? That’s kind of shallow, don’t you think?

Yes, King Kong is a movie (and, oh yeah, the subject of the cartoon we’re posting on) and I do take life examples from every input I am able to see or hear. I’ve used music over and over to learn lessons and to get through life events. One of the most politically precient albums I’ve ever heard is Queensryche’s Operation Mindcrime. An album that got me through heartbreak was Little Feat’s Let it Roll. Another one that kept me alive was Accept Balls to the Wall.

One has got to have examples like that in life, or else you’re just, I don’t know, mindless? Malleable? Easily influenced? Angry?

Movies… I believe in the goodness of Man and the triumph of the spirit. Forrest Gump, The Jerk, Pulp Fiction, Blazing Saddles, Trading Places, Forget Paris, Apocolypse Now: Redux (makes much more sense than the orig), and I just saw Syriana last night.

Syriana is honest, and just tells the story of whoever has money, makes the rules.

I’m not just going to listen to the radio and think that that is getting all of the information for me to lead my life. So, you may call me shallow for being curious and for liking movies. Ah well. We disagree. (Loser)

Happy Holidays y’all!

By Geezus

December 14, 2005 06:34 PM | Link to this

oh well, off to the bar (you that one right…lol). Tomorrow another toon, and Scooter, repost your question to me I must have missed it.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 14, 2005 06:42 PM | Link to this

Andys -Dontwannabe!: What’s the matter, you superior being, did you have to slave over that hot french fry cooker all day?

Believe me, you don’t have to tell us that you are a pinko. It is easy to see by that condescending haughty demeanor that you sissy libs like to sport in public. Judging from your entertainment choices you probably spend a lot of your private time weeping. Identification unnecessary.

I liked the Bible, I thought it was a great guide for all situations. Movies, with some notable exceptions, are pervert anti American, anti family, anti Jesus Christ propaganda, and I would rather think for myself.

Merry Christmas!

By Objective Observer

December 14, 2005 07:21 PM | Link to this

Candide: only when religion is abolished, can man be free I hope never to see that day come. It will leave man to revert to his most primal instincts. Now this is where I can refer back to my morning post re: creationism/evolution. Anthropological evidence is far too apparent to allow me to rule out the theory of evolution. The moment in time when man realized “the error of his ways” and the consequences of his actions is what leads me to my “spiritual” beliefs.

Self-preservation, self-gratification, a whole lot of “self” stuff is man at his lowest point of evolution. That would prove to offer little or nothing to anyone other than oneself.

I do appreciate your opinion as opportunity for open discussion and my objective is not to change it. Believe that!

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 07:22 PM | Link to this

Andy’s -dontwannabe, I will certainly agree that Coppola is a good director, but you didn’t smell a rat, when Kerry was having to explain all of the Apacolypse Now scenes he experienced during his four months in combat. Four months, but h ehad his personal camera and dad gum he was pretty.

Were glad you worked hard today. You can be an example for the youth. The grown ups weren’t lying when they said you can either work smarter or you can work harder. You see we work our minds and multi tasking has set us free to blog.

Geezus, Your million dollar question is; Why do you seem to not have a problem with Saddam standing before the world and making a mockery of the UN and their resolutions. All the while (during the nineties) his democracy elected him by percentages in the ninety percent rage and it improved with each election, signifying great human rights abuses, but where was the noble UN?

Candide, what are talking about love. I am not trying to escape the role of religion. That is why I am envious of your world, where religion can act in a vacuum to create fascism.

By Pete

December 14, 2005 09:24 PM | Link to this

Mormons. I was transferred for 3 years to Salt Lake City. Beautiful country & climate. Those crazed, hate-rending “Christian” bigots make even you uneducated right-wing Bushscum on this site seem nearly normal.

Oh yeah…in my hood as a kid, we would have called someone “Scooter” only because we were all ……. him. I’m sure the same applies today.

By Scooter

December 14, 2005 10:28 PM | Link to this

Pete, let me guess, your hood in the burbs and your daddies house. Also Pete, one of my old friends started himself a custom bike shop in Provo, selling bikes to the evil rich, and he too hates the mormons. I personally don’t know any, but SLC is nice.

How did you like the homeless people around the Tabernacle, with their North Face clothes, Dana Designs bags. All of that provided by those christian bigots. Little harsh their Pete…. like it.

Well Pete enjoy your journey tonight, calm down cause I’m going to Z town. Thanks for coming out and demonstrating the venom felt by the truly brainwashed myrmidons of the media. Now peace.

By Brian Curtis

December 15, 2005 08:40 AM | Link to this

OO: Why do you assume that without religion as a threat/reward system to hold over our heads, mankind will immediately become selfish and hedonistic?

We’re quite capable of evolving a system of ethics apart from supernatural questions… as you can tell from any agnostic or atheist who manages to “behave” in society.

Questions of morality and ethics don’t have to be dictated by a religion—although many people have chosen that path. But you can be a good, productive member of society without any supernatural/spiritual belief at all.

By Donovan Coley

December 18, 2005 04:07 PM | Link to this

I find it disturbing that each and every cartoon is a typical bash on the president and against the Christian values of this country. I also find it disturbing that each and every cartoon coincidentally is favored by the reading public. I do believe that it is a cute little propaganda campaign initiated by a punk liberal minion in the employ of a deceitful liberal newspaper that constantly denies its agenda of undermining this republic.

By Midori

December 18, 2005 05:04 PM | Link to this

Donovan — did you make the same observation during the Clinton years? You know, when Mike and 1000’s other drew nothing but anti-Clinton cartoons?

Hint — political cartoonists lampoon POLITICIANS who are in power.

who would you have him lampoon? FDR? Hoover? JFK? How about LBJ?

Besides — Bush and the GOP gives him so much ammunition. One does not need to go far to find it.

*The Bush Administration finds itself in a very odd place—under and sinking fast—and for them, the dislocation must be staggering. And while it is interesting to watch as the White House unveils its new candor campaign in trying to right itself, that effort may be the definition of ‘too little, too late.’ All you have to do to understand the extent of the GOP’s problems is to look at what is going on with one-time Golden Boy Ralph Reed, who is on the 2006 ballot in Georgia. He is going under fast and taking other Republicans with him, in magenta-red Georgia no less.

Obviously, they are not alone: Tom DeLay is in trouble with the Justice Department, Conrad Burns is paving the way for a Democratic senator from Montana, Bob Ney needs a criminal lawyer, and Duke Cunningham is going to jail. But Reed and Abramoff were part of that GOP crowd that seemed to have figured out something fundamental about American politics that would make them unbeatable. Two other notables on that list, Karl Rove and Grover Norquist, have also attracted the attention of federal investigators.

http://www.prospect.org/web/printfriendly-view.ww?id=10…