Mike Luckovich

By RW-(the original)

December 12, 2005 11:57 PM | Link to this

Well at least ml didn’t put the “this end up” instruction on the semi-nude model.

By Erik

December 12, 2005 11:58 PM | Link to this

Interesting. Santa Claus in his current guise is a marketing gimmick created by Atlanta’s own…Coca Cola. Ice cold meets the warm fuzzies apparently. The only Jesus Christ I hear is amoung the non-deleted expletives heard when the price re-reduced sale item is sold out. 25 cents in the red pot buys a lot of self satisfaction though. Merry Christmas.

By candide

December 13, 2005 04:46 AM | Link to this

Keep Christ in Christmas, it’s good for business.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 05:06 AM | Link to this

You can’t make it to page 2 of the litter box liner without getting hit up for money or assaulted by some woman in lingerie with her legs splayed and a come hither look. And cartoon boy thinks this is the fault of Jesus?

If the AJC didn’t have advertisements, if consumers weren’t out of control and the retailers didn’t govern how we spend our recreation time, there would be no newspaper pages for the pinkos to bash Bush and America with. Good idea cartoon boy, let’s clean this mess up!

Merry Christmas!

By Objective Observer

December 13, 2005 05:59 AM | Link to this

Is she speaking sarcastically? If so, she is a “religious fanatic”. If, she’s really looking for a “stuffed” Messiah, then ml is warning us of what he sees as inevitable.

R.W., is that the “figment of your imagination” ogling that poor model? He’s probably got the “This End Up” sign in front of him, trying to engage her in a game of Pin The Tail.

I must admit, the faces on the shoppers remind me of some I’ve seen when out and about.

By Bill

December 13, 2005 07:38 AM | Link to this

With all the hate-mongering and division that I see in America today; is there any wonder that “the true meaning of X-Mas” appears to be elusive? The venom and bile on this one blog alone is usually sufficient to run Jesus off for at least another 2,000 years!

By getalife

December 13, 2005 08:05 AM | Link to this

That semi-nude model looks like Ann. Merry Holiday!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 08:29 AM | Link to this

It was Coulter’s coolness which earned her the respect of the audience — as soon as they understood she was engaging in pointed satire, they saw the rabblerousers, who were calling out throughout the Q&A, as being the most hateful. One student remarked, “You know, by calling Ann Coulter’s remarks ‘hate speech’ they’re showing how little they have to offer by way of ideas. The speaker was making her point through humor, while the humorless just didn’t have a point.”

Sounds kind of familiar, don’t it?

Merry Christmas!

By roger turner

December 13, 2005 08:30 AM | Link to this

Christmas in our time has about as much to do with Christ as the AJC does about unbiased reporting of the news.

By Hellion

December 13, 2005 08:40 AM | Link to this

“Cartoon boy”? His name is Luckovich. “Pinkos”? Try “American citizens”. “Bashing Bush and America”? How about “freedom of speech” and “criticizing the President does not mean criticizing America”?

I hope you don’t resort to mudslinging every time someone disagrees with your opinions.

Right on, Bill.

Merry Christmas!

By John

December 13, 2005 08:46 AM | Link to this

SAN DIEGO — There’s controversy over how the military is transporting the bodies of service members killed overseas, 10News reported.

A local family said fallen soldiers and Marines deserve better and that one would think our war heroes are being transported with dignity, care and respect. It said one would think upon arrival in their hometowns they are greeted with honor. But unfortunately, the family said that is just not the case.

Dead heroes are supposed to come home with their coffins draped with the American flag — greeted by a color guard.

But in reality, many are arriving as freight on commercial airliners — stuffed in the belly of a plane with suitcases and other cargo.

Bushies and Co treat our dead as cargo and Iraq’s they don’t even bother to count.

By getalife

December 13, 2005 08:55 AM | Link to this

• If you want to upset right wingers, draw something about Ann Coulter(they love her) getting heckled for spewing hate or John Murtha(they hate him) for wanting to bring our troops home.*

Get over it Andy

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 08:57 AM | Link to this

Come on pinkos, let’s rise and shine. Laying in that bed is a waste of quality raging time. Let’s smoke that first joint and then recite the liberal creed: “Man, I hate the United States and I can’t wait to do something immoral today.” Wash the pig’s blood off your hands from last night’s “action” before you go out among the fascists.

Don’t take last night’s loss of Tookie personally. We really got made to look like fools and a-sses on that one, but remember, there are cold blooded killers that need our support in prisons all over America. Our work is not done!

Merry Christmas!

By BigDaddy

December 13, 2005 09:05 AM | Link to this

Who says Hollywood is out of touch?

By Kevin

December 13, 2005 09:11 AM | Link to this

Hi Everyone: I’ve read all the posted comments… Wow. This is Christmastime; can’t we all just play nice together? Christmas should be everyone’s favorite pagan holiday.

Merry Holiday ! ! !

By Objective Observer

December 13, 2005 09:16 AM | Link to this

After following the postings late last night, I could not help but reflect back on the Vietnam era. It was the anger of the left which brought them home and it was the anger of the left which greeted them at the airport and on the streets.

Kinda like the looks on the faces of the shoppers in the cartoon. I had to tie it in somehow.

If someone on this site tells you that they served in the military, don’t be so pompous as to assume they did not. A simple thank-you will suffice.

Thank you Ricky!

By getalife

December 13, 2005 09:17 AM | Link to this

Thanks Mike for drawing Ann in this cartoon.

By Lyrazel

December 13, 2005 09:19 AM | Link to this

Yes, they do actually make plush dolls of Jesus. They are readily available and go on sale at the end of Holiday. They have been making baby jesus dolls for YEARS and selling them in sets, you have to buy the set: mom, dad, pets & house guests. Made in China

By Pinko

December 13, 2005 09:23 AM | Link to this

I love America. I despise george w bush and company. They have done more harm to my country than a whole army of ann coulters could do. Power is a terrible thing in the hands of the feeble minded. Does W stand for Weasel or Worm?

By getalife

December 13, 2005 09:28 AM | Link to this

The W stands for Weed because if he had any sense, he would smoke it.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 09:35 AM | Link to this

Its amazing how much hate is out there for the President. There is hardly ever any reasoning just that he is terrible and corrupt and has done untold damage to the country. As for Christmas, of course it has become commercialized. However, for those of us that belive in Christ, it has more meaning than the time of year you exchange gifts. Who cares what everyone else thinks about your beliefs. If you don’t believe in a higher being, than it is just another holiday for you. That is fine, that is what freedom of religion is all about.

By Scooter

December 13, 2005 09:40 AM | Link to this

This is a good cartoon to get a certain sect of the public out to express their… whatever they call it. It will serve to bring out the liberals who believe in social democracy without knowing much about economics. Pride and ignotrance is a dangerous combination fostered by the government’s control of education. Which party insists governmetn maintain control over education.

By Jesus

December 13, 2005 09:45 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By getalife

December 13, 2005 09:53 AM | Link to this

Hello Jesus, How much time do I have left?

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 10:01 AM | Link to this

getalife, good to see you back today.

By getalife

December 13, 2005 10:04 AM | Link to this

Ricky, Thanks, it is good to be back.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 10:11 AM | Link to this

Heres my take on the whole Christmas thing. I don’t buy into the whole war on Christmas talk. Yes it annoys me when companies or organizations won’t say Merry Christmas, because I hate the idea that if you have a room of 28 people and something offends one, then we need to placate that one person. And yes Christmas has become overly commercialized, however for those of us that believe in God, Christmas is more than just a day to exchange gifts. Whatever the beliefs on each individual, Christmas is a federal holiday and saying Merry Christmas shouldn’t offend anyone.

By Daniel

December 13, 2005 10:19 AM | Link to this

Luckovich, yet again, is right on target.

By getalife

December 13, 2005 10:20 AM | Link to this

Merry Christmas works for me and I believe there are other issues we should be concerned about like the war and the Gulf Coast.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 10:21 AM | Link to this

Daniel I have never seen you disagree with a Lucko cartoon.

By Objective Observer

December 13, 2005 10:25 AM | Link to this

Daniel: There are two possible targets in my perception. Which one do you see him aiming for?

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 10:27 AM | Link to this

Daniel sees him aiming at the Christian right which for whatever reason the left has decided to demonize and accuse of having way more power than they actually do

By Objective Observer

December 13, 2005 10:51 AM | Link to this

By “Job” (biblical patience), I think you may be right. ml would have a hard time getting away from a reputation he has worked so clearly to established. I like to give benefit of doubt. It is the Mother in me.

Thank you Ricky. Merry Christmas!

By Objective Observer

December 13, 2005 10:55 AM | Link to this

OOPS! worked so clearly to establish That sucked. Change in mind that clearly did not make it to my fingers. Sorry!

By The Sad Truth

December 13, 2005 10:55 AM | Link to this

Now THAT’S funny…Hey Rickey, we’re not “placating” the one person who’s not a Christian, we’re making him or her feel welcome and comfortable. Why does that make you angry?

By rushncap

December 13, 2005 10:57 AM | Link to this

The religious right has the Presidence, and a large portion of the Congress, including the Majority Leader of the Senate and of the House. It also has 2 people on the Supreme Court. I’m sorry, how much more power CAN they get, Ricky?

By Kevin

December 13, 2005 11:02 AM | Link to this

Hi. I think we’re forgetting about the Agnostic, Atheist, Baha’i Faith, Buddhism, Deity, Druid, Eckankar, Ethical Culture, Hindu, Humanist, Jewish, Muslim, Native American Spirituality, New Age, Pagan, Rastafarian, Santeria, Scientologist, Secular, Sikh, Spiritualist, Taoist, Unitarian Universalist, Wiccan, etc. when we talk about Christmas.

P.S. How can 59,054,087 people be so dumb? (Source: London Daily Mirror)

By getalife

December 13, 2005 11:13 AM | Link to this

30,000 more jobs sent overseas How does this help the American worker? I don’t get it.

By Fire

December 13, 2005 11:15 AM | Link to this

Kevin - ?huh?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 11:22 AM | Link to this

Allow me to explain something for you dim bulb pinkos who have a hard time following along on your own, Kevin. This “Holiday” that you are enjoying all of the perks from is a Christian holiday, specifically to celebrate the Birth of Jesus Christ Lord and Saviour.

Imagine if a group of Conservatives moved to Paris and started b-itching and moaning about French people not taking baths. Or if we moved to Buford Highway and went to whining about all of the foreign language signs.

We don’t do these things because we don’t discriminate like you libs do. That’s what this cover up of the Name of Christ is, discrimination pure and simple. It’s just another example of the hypocrisy of the pinkos. You libs are good at talking yourself into super stardom. But that’s as far as it goes.

Merry Christmas!

By Daniel

December 13, 2005 11:24 AM | Link to this

The targets are: humor and truth. I like the AJC. I think Luckovich is funny. Christmas is a flop. It’s one big money grab. I’m ready for Christmas values. Charity, humility, “Love thy neighbor”, Thou shalt not kill”, “Do unto others…”frugality…..

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 11:26 AM | Link to this

So cAndy….you support segregation?

By Kevin

December 13, 2005 11:27 AM | Link to this

Hi Fire: Seems like commenting on ML’s “True Meaning of Christmas” got lost somewhere. People started talking about a lot of other stuff (interesting stuff for sure) but what do plush Jesus dolls have to do with Bush smoking weed or GM’s plant in India?

ML’s cartoon is funny and it just satirizes the commercialization of Christmas, which has been going on for years and will be happening long after we all dead and buried

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 11:29 AM | Link to this

missuz: Of idiot pinkos like you, yes. Some other country where they have no national pride comes to mind. You can work out those details after you are gone from here.

Merry Christmas!

By Kevin

December 13, 2005 11:33 AM | Link to this

Hi I Wish I Was Andy: Dude, chill.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 11:34 AM | Link to this

The “commercialization” of Christmas is just another avenue for pinkos to express their hatred of God. It has absolutely no bearing on the discrimination issue. The libs don’t want to be called bigots, even though it is true, so they change the subject to “You’re buying presents so it’s not authentic, blah, blah, blah.”

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 11:36 AM | Link to this

Kevin: Chill? Hi. I think we’re forgetting about the Agnostic, Atheist, Baha’i Faith, Buddhism, Deity, Druid, Eckankar, Ethical Culture, Hindu, Humanist, Jewish, Muslim, Native American Spirituality, New Age, Pagan, Rastafarian, Santeria, Scientologist, Secular, Sikh, Spiritualist, Taoist, Unitarian Universalist, Wiccan, etc. when we talk about Christmas.

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 11:36 AM | Link to this

Wow cAndy, you admit to supporting segregation, genocide, and killing other peoples children … Merry Christmas indeed! (sounds a bit hypocritical - IMO)

By getalife

December 13, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this

Hello Kevin, welcome to the blog. The subject matter may change several times and sometimes it may get ugly.

By gadem

December 13, 2005 11:38 AM | Link to this

Ricky I agree with your post concerning Christmas. I don’t think that it is a war on Christmas. People have been saying Happy Holidays as far back as I remember, why now is it becoming a talking point?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 11:42 AM | Link to this

Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII), which prohibits discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin

So I’m the bigot, eh, missuz? What don’t you pinkos understand? You are some dense people that’s for sure.

Merry Christmas!

By getalife

December 13, 2005 11:44 AM | Link to this

They need that act in Australia?

By Kevin

December 13, 2005 11:56 AM | Link to this

Hi Getalife: Thanks for the welcome.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 11:59 AM | Link to this

cAndy, in your 11:22 post you explained that in order for you to avoid (and therefore avoid complaining about) foreign-language signs, French bathers, etc… you choose not to live there … i.e. segregate yourself.

By getalife

December 13, 2005 12:01 PM | Link to this

Kevin, Your welcome. Don’t worry about Andy He thinks he is at war with the Democratic liberals.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 12:03 PM | Link to this

…and SUDDENLY the commercialization of Christmas is an issue with Repubes…what is that?

Also cAndy, if you detest Mike and his toons so much, why are you here all day, every day? That is quite odd (in a stalker-ish kinda way) if you think about it. Are you on some kind of “convert” crusade or something?

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 12:05 PM | Link to this

In fact, applying your French bather/foreign-language-sign illustration, shouldn’t you just move on from this blog? Go to one where you can extoll the virtues of the author and collectively stroke each other off?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 12:06 PM | Link to this

missuz: I said if I lived there, don’t project your silly hypothesis into my statements. If I were you I would be more concerned as to why your teacher can’t give you the proper definition of discrimination. All you have been taught is how to hate people that are better than you, it is your professor’s perverted way of getting even with the society he detests. How much did your mommy pay for your education?

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 12:10 PM | Link to this

missuz: I said if I lived there, don’t project your silly hypothesis into my statements. If I were you I would be more concerned as to why your teacher can’t give you the proper definition of discrimination. All you have been taught is how to hate people that are better than you, it is your professor’s perverted way of getting even with the society he detests. How much did your mommy pay for your education?

Thank you for noticing…lol (BTW, I paid for it out of pocket…money WELL spent)

I also said that applying your illustration, meaning that I am applying your logic to yourself

By Brian Curtis

December 13, 2005 12:17 PM | Link to this

It’s funny how few so-called “Christians” busily defending Christmas actually seem to get the point of the cartoon… or of anything Jesus had to say, for that matter.

You can usually spot them because they use the word pinko a lot.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 12:22 PM | Link to this

Why do non-religious people assume that people who are religious don’t understand the true meaning of Christmas? Most Christians I know celebrate both the secular portion of Christmas and the Christian part of it.

By Kevin

December 13, 2005 12:22 PM | Link to this

cAndy: Just wondering, have you ever been to France? Or Buford highway?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 12:41 PM | Link to this

missuz: It’s rather easy to spot a college education nowadays. They are the people with no common sense, they think they are smarter than everybody else but they can only repeat things that someone else says. It’s nothing to be proud of.

Let’s not apply your faulty logic to “myself.” That’s a awfully specious game we could play, it is up the alley of a pinko though. I’d rather just deal with reality.

Keeping Christ out of Christmas is discrimination in it’s most base form.

Merry Christmas!

By gadem

December 13, 2005 12:42 PM | Link to this

Ricky I think people think non-religious and religious people both question the over commercialization of Christmas. I Myslef question it. I would much rather praise God and go to church than give gifts to ungrateful people. To some Christmas is all about getting gifts, and there lies the problem.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 12:43 PM | Link to this

Kevin: Have you ever been to church?

Merry Christmas!

By gadem

December 13, 2005 12:48 PM | Link to this

Andy what do you have against college educated people? Maybe if you strived to attain higher goals, you would not be so hateful towards others that have seen that the world is bigger than Georgia.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 12:50 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis: Cartoon boys drawing is a weak attempt to change the subject. Your definition of me is a lazy attempt at coming late to the debate. Read back through the whole thread before you get judgemental, or is that impossible for a pinko not to do?

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 12:54 PM | Link to this

gadem: College is a pinko training program. For you to ask that question is to identify yourself as the only person in the world who doesn’t know this. Even the college professors can no longer keep it a secret. See Ann Coulter, you harbingers of diversity.

Merry Christmas!

By getalife

December 13, 2005 12:55 PM | Link to this

It is Christmas in Snellville It’s a no-brainer issue, of course. To vote against “Christmas” in this conservative, heavily churched suburb would be as welcome as spiking the punch at a Baptist social.

By getalife

December 13, 2005 12:59 PM | Link to this

I see Ann Coulter in Mike’s drawing.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 01:02 PM | Link to this

Do these pinkos really still believe that they haven’t been figured out? They say they are against discrimination but blacks who don’t agree with them are Uncle Toms or not “authentic.” They talk of diversity but they http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178124,00.htmldiffering opinions.”>shout down differing opinions.

Why do they continue to act like nobody knows that they are bigoted extremists? Can’t we proceed in this debate with at least that understanding? It’s like starting at square one everyday. What is with the pathological denial?

Merry Christmas!

By Hellion

December 13, 2005 01:02 PM | Link to this

Andy all you’re doing is putting people down, making spontaneous attributions about their personalities, and voicing sweeping generalizations of particular groups of people. That sounds distinctly like discrimination.

That’s not very Merry, Christmas-y, or Christian.

By gadem

December 13, 2005 01:04 PM | Link to this

What this amounts to is political posturing. Andy college is not a liberal training program, but it allows you to be more opened to other views and opinions. Buff is a college professor, and he is far from liberal so your arguement is weak. I would like to know what parts of the Bible you study, and what version. I have never met someone that is so hate filled, and then you claim to be a Christian. By the way what denomination are you Andy?

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 01:07 PM | Link to this

cAndy, didn’t your frat-boy president go to not only 1, but 2 of said “pinko” institutions?

By Kevin

December 13, 2005 01:07 PM | Link to this

cAndy: Yes, I’ve been to church. The churches I’ve been to don’t use the words like “pinko” and they don’t care about one’s political affiliations, national origins, race, or odoriferous people, or the signs on Buford Highway, etc.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 01:08 PM | Link to this

gadem: By labeling waht I say as “hate speech” actually shows how shallow your argument is. Here’s a college student who get’s it, yes I believe that Conservatives are starting to gain a foothold- One student remarked, “You know, by calling Ann Coulter’s remarks ‘hate speech’ they’re showing how little they have to offer by way of ideas. The speaker was making her point through humor, while the humorless just didn’t have a point.”

Merry Christmas!

By Objective Observer

December 13, 2005 01:09 PM | Link to this

Andy: I am curious, would you be willing to share, to what denomination you belong. Just asking, no ulterior motive here. If it is too personal a question, just say so.

By Bee Ess Detector.

December 13, 2005 01:11 PM | Link to this

A note to those new here. Andy is the “scroll down” poster here, when you get to a post by Andy just scrool down. You will not miss anything he posts the same thing over and over. He’s very lonely and needs this blog to socialize, he’s here everyday 18 hours each day.

His goal here is that of an antagonist, not as a conservative or any other ideology. Just say no to Andy, scrool down. Its the attention he craves.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 01:12 PM | Link to this

Hellion: I can’t help it if you are too educationaly stunted to read back through the posts for today and see that I am defending myself and “particular groups of people.” I may not seem very nice because no one else has been very nice, starting with the cartoon. You can dish it out but you can’t take it?

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 01:15 PM | Link to this

And it has worked in Bee Ess’s case. Notice how this clown seems to be an authority on my doings. You reckon he’s been spending much time following the things that I do, out of awe and wonderment, possibly? I wonder if he takes notes? Repeats the things I say among his friends?

Merry Christmas!

By rushncap

December 13, 2005 01:15 PM | Link to this

Let me guess — our friend Andy was kicked out of a community college, and he’s been terribly bitter ever since. LOL.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 01:17 PM | Link to this

Objective: United Methodist.

Merry Christmas!

By Scooter

December 13, 2005 01:19 PM | Link to this

Andy is the Ann Coulter of this blog.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 01:19 PM | Link to this

Kevin: Do you call other members of your congregation by names like cAndy? Or is stuff like that O.K. if a pinko does it?

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 01:19 PM | Link to this

Ya’ll go easy on cAndy, he’s got a big night coming up….front-row center for the “Brokeback Mountain” premiere

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 01:21 PM | Link to this

rushncap: Let me guess. Our friend rushncap was kicked out of the dog pound, but now he has Ingi, his friend’s dog, so he’s happy again.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 01:22 PM | Link to this

missuz: I thought pinkos were the ones who liked broke dicks or what ever that is?

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 01:23 PM | Link to this

….so you’re familiar with it….lol

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 01:25 PM | Link to this

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 01:22 PM | Link to this

missuz: I thought pinkos were the ones who liked broke dicks or what ever that is?

Merry Christmas!

cAndy, I’m sure you’re making the United Methodists proud…

By Kevin

December 13, 2005 01:27 PM | Link to this

Sorry Andy, didn’t mean to offend you.

Everyone else: Wow.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 01:27 PM | Link to this

missuz: I know you pinkos are the ones who went to college and y’all are just sooo smart, but how come you haven’t figured out the proper use of your reproductive organs? Didn’t mommies money buy that class?

Merry Christmas!

By Jay

December 13, 2005 01:29 PM | Link to this

The cartoon is just another stick by ml at America and Americans. And getalife, you are probably right about the Coulter picture in the background of the ‘toon. The truth is, the “commercialization aspect” of Christmas is just that, just a bunch of stupid commercials and ads that we are flooded with continuously begining the day after Thanksgiving , so just turn off the TV. I don’t believe most people have a view of Christmas like this anyway, but for those who do, HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS!

By Objective Observer

December 13, 2005 01:34 PM | Link to this

Andy: Alright! Me, too, the denomination which promotes reason & logic in all matters of faith. Exactly the reason I chose this denomination. A firm and dissenting group we are. Not very popular with other denominations because we think “outside the box”. Thank you.

Merry Christmas

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 01:34 PM | Link to this

Jay, Interestingly, Christmas is the lube (a term cAndy is familiar with) that greases the economic wheel. The retail sector (the nations largest) see’s its greatest gains during the Christmas season, so perhaps it is not in anyones best interest to “turn-off” the commercialization.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 01:36 PM | Link to this

and incase you’re not familiar with cAndy’s work there is a link to a helpful review. Now I’m sure you need to leave soon if you plan to make the screening at the Chelsea cAndy….lol

By Objective Observer

December 13, 2005 01:45 PM | Link to this

Antagonist:One who opposes and actively competes with another; adversary. Andy is passionate in his beliefs and very successful in his endeavors.

By gadem

December 13, 2005 01:50 PM | Link to this

OO that would be a negative on your last definition. Andy is successful in stirring the pot. You don’t seem as negative as him. Tell me Andy or OO what is the major difference between Methodist and United Methodist.

By Jay

December 13, 2005 01:58 PM | Link to this

That’s very true G.. I guess I just don’t let the “commercialization” taint my view of Christmas or what I decide to buy as a gift for that matter.

By Dubya

December 13, 2005 02:08 PM | Link to this

Good day, all you Repub Bushvolk and other assorted white trash! Your glorious leader, George “Tookie” Bush made yet another brilliant speech yesterday, and the final of 4 tomorrow. How is it possible to watch that man without laughing or vomiting or both?? Makes one long for Richard M. Nixon and Spiro Agnew. Great to know that we are “winning” in Iraq! See the happy, carefree Iraqis! Pleased and content with the Bush Jihadist version of “Democracy” & “Freedom.” See their fresh new standard of living! Just wait for the results of these fantastic Democratic elections. Let us all rejoice at the “progress.”

By candide

December 13, 2005 02:09 PM | Link to this

Don’t you fools realize that all this Christmas greeting crap was started by Bill O’Reilly, that mick demagogue, for his own purposes of publicity and deceit?

He has been on this binge since the end of his anti-French products campaign. He should not be taken seriously — he is a clever fool, but not as foolish the millions of Joe Six-Packs he hoodwinks into doing his bidding.

Where would you conservatives be if you didn’t have Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Hannity, Boortz and the other fascisti to do your thinking for you?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 02:11 PM | Link to this

gadem: There really isn’t much of a difference. John Wesley founded Methodism, it was splintered for a time and United Methodist is the modern form.

Objective: I was Baptist for about a week. They have some issues. I’m home now.

Merry Christmas!

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 02:12 PM | Link to this

candide, you continue to amaze me with your thoughtless insults and ethnic slurs.

By Jay

December 13, 2005 02:13 PM | Link to this

Candide, I don’t think Bill O’Reilly should really deserve that much credit.

By rushncap

December 13, 2005 02:14 PM | Link to this

Christmas rules! If you fly on Christmas morning, your air fare is close to 25% less than at any other time during the holiday. Just FYI. My flight back to California cost over $100 less on that day. A very merry Xmas indeed!

By Jay

December 13, 2005 02:16 PM | Link to this

rushncap, I’ll pay your ticket to fly you back to Russia if you would like…

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 02:17 PM | Link to this

Candide: Bill O’Reilly is a pinko, watch him endorse Hillary in 08. Bortz is in favor of gay marriage. You got 3 out of 5 right, which is better than the usual lies you spread. You must be studying. Am I having an effect on you?

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 02:20 PM | Link to this

“Dubya”: Those purple stained fingers really get your goat, don’t they? Why does the same basic principles we enjoy here in America drive you pinkos ape when other people get to exercize them. Jealousy? Hatred? Discrimination?

Merry Christmas!

By rushncap

December 13, 2005 02:21 PM | Link to this

I’d love to, Jay. I’ve not visited in years. Can we make it this summer?

By Jay

December 13, 2005 02:23 PM | Link to this

Absolutely, as long as it is one-way.

By rushncap

December 13, 2005 02:30 PM | Link to this

Oh, Jay, baby, are you trying to deport me? Or are you a Samaritan who is offering to pay for half of the trip?

By gadem

December 13, 2005 02:31 PM | Link to this

Andy, do you really think that whatever government they elect there will be free from the problems that were present there before with Sadaam. Hell we can’t even lead by example here, so how can we try to spread democracy elsewhere.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 02:33 PM | Link to this

Gallup: Poll Finds Americans’ Belief in God Remains Strong

Conservatives are more likely to be convinced than liberals (that’s pinkos) (87% vs. 61%), women a little more likely than men (82% vs. 73%), and residents of the South more than those in the East (88% vs. 70%).

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 02:34 PM | Link to this

cAndy, would you agree that Islam and Christianity are the same?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 02:39 PM | Link to this

gadem: Not only will the new Iraqi government be better than what Saddam brought them, it will serve as an example to all of the other people in that region who long to be free. How can it not be? It has already had an effect on Beirut, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran (excuse me if I missed any.) Have hope Man. Believe in the basic goodness of people.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 02:42 PM | Link to this

missuz: Not since the fourteenth century when Islam embraced evil, why?

Merry Christmas!

By gadem

December 13, 2005 02:42 PM | Link to this

Andy if I have to place my faith in people, we are all in trouble.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 02:50 PM | Link to this

gadem, if you don’t place your faith in people, where do you place it?

By getalife

December 13, 2005 02:54 PM | Link to this

Speaking of Religion

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 02:55 PM | Link to this

getalife, are you suprised the Pope is against religion? That is part of his job description. However during World War II Pope Pius did help Jews escape the Nazi killing machine.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 02:59 PM | Link to this

Well cAndy, since Islam and Christianity are not alike (a view I share), then why would you think that a “democracy” based on Christianity could be applied successfully to an Islamic state (particularly one where there are 3 different primary Islamic factions)?

By getalife

December 13, 2005 03:00 PM | Link to this

Ricky, I do not think the Pope is against religion. He is against torture:Asked if the Church could condone torture as a means to stop terrorist attacks, Martino said: “Torture is a humiliation of the human person, whoever he is. The Church does not admit it … there are other means to make people talk.”

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 03:02 PM | Link to this

Geezus, there are only two types of Islam in Iraq, Shi’ia and Sunni. Secondly, we aren’t asking them to have a democracy just like we have. We want them to have a constitutional democracy where the peoples views are represented and they get a chance to vote on their represetatives.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 03:05 PM | Link to this

missuz: The Iraqi constitutional authority has 39% women participation, that is they are actively helping to draft the document that the new government will follow. This already “violates” the rule of Islam. Freedom is a very powerful weapon.

Merry Christmas!

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 03:05 PM | Link to this

getalife, I mistyped. I meant to say are you suprised the Pope is against war and torture. He is the Pope for goodness sake.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 03:07 PM | Link to this

Actually Ricky, there are 3 factions: (Shi’ites, Kurdish Sunnis, and Arab Sunnis) with 3 very differing views.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 03:10 PM | Link to this

Geezus, you are incorrect on that. The Kurds are mostly part of the Sunni sect of Islam. While their view is usually more liberal than the Sunni Arab, it is still the same sect. The Kurds are a different ethnicity than the Arabs, but share the same religion. Also they have been enthusiastic supporters of the new constitution in Iraq.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 03:16 PM | Link to this

Precisely my point cAndy. The fact that we are imposing (and despite what you may want to call it, we ARE imposing) a democracy that flies in the face of their religion is ridiculous. It is doomed to fail because of things like you just pointed out. They WILL be changed back at the first opportunity.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 03:19 PM | Link to this

Geezus, people have always said democracy will fail. They said it about German and Japan after WW II. That worked out pretty well. I am not saying their democracy will be just like ours, but I think it will work. Once again the people of the left show their automatic pessimism.

By getalife

December 13, 2005 03:20 PM | Link to this

Ricky, Good link on Islam in Iraq Read the first paragragh. Mr. Murtha is right. We are the invading their land and they want us out as soon as possible.

By Objective Observer

December 13, 2005 03:22 PM | Link to this

Geezus: I know that this question was not posed to me but…I don’t see us trying to establish Christianity in Iraq, but rather an opportunity to prosper, that desire is within all of us. The differences you mentioned between the three factions are cultural not religious.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 03:22 PM | Link to this

Ricky, perhaps this article will help you undedrstand the many different factions in Iraq There are 3 primary, but MANY others as well.

By gadem

December 13, 2005 03:23 PM | Link to this

Ricky, I place my faith in God.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 03:25 PM | Link to this

missuz: Despite your sneering vote of confidence, no one is being forced to vote in these elections and they are having a better turnout than the U.S. had in 2004. Their Democracy is a done deal and with it the end of the democratic party in America. That’s the failure you sense. The libs put all their eggs in the losing basket and that’s what they will get; lost. Americans aren’t losers, pinkos are!

Merry Christmas!

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 03:25 PM | Link to this

getalife, the people of Iraq are thankful we liberated them from Saddam. Yes they want us to leave, but not immediately as Murtha, Dean, and Pelosi say. They want us to make sure that they are capable of defending themselves before we leave. Once that happens we will be more than happy to leave. Here is the difference between Iraq and countries like Saudi. Religion is not as big a deal in Iraq as it is in some other Arab countries. Iraq is one of the more westernized Arab countries. It was a secular government under Saddam. The only time he talked about religion was when he felt it fit his needs. I have spent about 18 months in Iraq. There are many of them that drink alochol and smoke. They have whore houses. They wear western clothes in many parts of the country. My point being religion is not as big a part of their daily lives as it is made out to be.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 03:29 PM | Link to this

Geezus, did you really link an article from slate magazine? They are going to take their view from how it fits their politics. Check out the link from getalife it is actually pretty imformative and has no political bias in it. And yes I know there are many different types of religion just like in America. There is a pretty sizable Christian bloc in Iraq as well.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 03:29 PM | Link to this

I never said we were spreading Christianity, I said democracy. In the Islamic faith (in it’s strictest sense - as is the case with Iraq) women are (basically) second class. There is nothing in Democratic theory that would allow this to persist, but IT WILL PERSIST as soon as we leave. We are looking at their political system through our Christian eyes.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 03:31 PM | Link to this

Geezus, Iraq doesn’t adhere to the strictest belief in Islam. They have many women who wear western clothes and run businesses. They have women doctors and lawyers. Your facts on wrong on this one.

By getalife

December 13, 2005 03:35 PM | Link to this

Ricky, Leaving immediately is not Mr. Murtha’s plan The military understands that these people do not want us on their land. What did your commanders tell you about the enemy and how did they tell you to defend from IED attacks?

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 03:36 PM | Link to this

We are imposing something on a country that did not solicit it (democracy). That is a very dangerous precident. When the groups that do not want what we offer/impose attempt to regain control (this WILL happen) we will be obligated to step-in. I do not EVER see a clean exit. The Repubes (of course) can’t say that!

By Objective Observer

December 13, 2005 03:37 PM | Link to this

Oops! Sorry Geesuz, I’m seeing Christianity in every post, my mistake. It’s beginning to all run together. Am enjoying the discussion though.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 03:40 PM | Link to this

Yes Ricky, I did post an article from the slate. If you take a moment to read it you will discover that it actually is very informative. I try to avoid posting political psyco-babble (unless of course it is to offset RW and cAndy when they get in one of their “off-topic” stroke-fests)

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 03:40 PM | Link to this

getalife, Mr Murtha does want us to pull out of Iraq immediately. He wants us to set up QRF bases in the region that could respond if something came up. they want us there to finish getting the security forces up and ready. Once that is done then we can leave and let them decide the fate of their country.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 03:43 PM | Link to this

… I would also like to add that I appreciate Ricky’s ability to discuss topics without immediately resorting to name-calling, etc, etc, etc. It is nice to have a discourse without tunnelvision being imposed

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 03:44 PM | Link to this

Geezus, I do see a clean exit from Iraq and it will be within the next three years. Many on the left, apparentely including you, never see military action as successful. We are winning over there. Just watch and see the elections later this week. Al Qaeda in Iraq sent out a letter stating that they were losing. I am not saying mistakes haven’t been made, they have. But we are getting smarter about how to operate over there and we are suceeding.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 03:45 PM | Link to this

Geezus, thanks for the compliment. I think discourse like this is healty. Although we will probably never convince the other to change their mind at least we can offer different perspectives.

By getalife

December 13, 2005 03:46 PM | Link to this

Ricky, Yes, he wants the troops to stop being targets and help train the Iraqis. God bless him and thank you for your service in Iraq. The troops are supported here in this country.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 03:52 PM | Link to this

getalife, the troops have to be targets in order to train the Iraqis. Its part of the double edged sword.

By getalife

December 13, 2005 03:57 PM | Link to this

Ricky, I think he was talking about the conveys attacked by IED’s. How do you defend those attacks?

By Dusty

December 13, 2005 03:58 PM | Link to this

So much for Luckovich’s cartoon.

I am back from doing a little shopping at JCPenney. It was pleasant. The store was pretty. There was an astounding assortment of merchandise. A varied group of shoppers were pleasant and the busy clerk handed me my package with a smile and “Merry Christmas”. I am preparing to attend a joint musical by Jews and Catholics at the Temple. (I am neither.) I am free to celebrate Christmas. Oh, what a great country this is. We are offered so much and given so many opportunities. Unbelievable!

Before you think that I am going to melt in happiness, I picked up my church magazine and there was a picture of a Pakistani man in the Himalayas. He was standing beside his home, a pile of tumbled walls. His family was part of the 80,000 people killed in the earthquake. He expects to freeze this winter with all the difficulties of getting relief. So, remember the blessings of this country but do not forget the sticken man of earthquake terror. (OK. I promise not to “preach” any more.)

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 03:59 PM | Link to this

getalife, you have to be on your toes. Most of the time you can tell if an IED has been planted. The dirt looks loose or the pavement looks loose or you can see the wiring. The have started fielding vehicles with anti-IED equipment that will either set off the IED in advance or prevent the IED from going off. We are getting better.

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 04:01 PM | Link to this

Geezur,

Expectations are for a turnout of over 70% for this election, if we are imposing our style of democracy wouldn’t it be closer to 40%?

By Daniel

December 13, 2005 04:07 PM | Link to this

I have three questions: 1)Who is the enemy?; (Don’t give me platitudes or namecalling, in VietNam the guy who cut your hair in the day would cut your throat at night) 2)Is there a difference between the “Iraq War” and the “War on terror”?; 3)Are we making the situation worse?

By This Justin

December 13, 2005 04:16 PM | Link to this

“We got a serious situation in St. Bernard Parish,” its president, Henry “Junior” Rodriguez, told CNN on Tuesday.

“We got people living in tents and automobiles. We got people living in barns. We got people living in their houses — in tents,” he said on “American Morning.”

“This is the beginning of winter. This is unacceptable.”

Dusty, I’m sure Jesus is just tickled pink that you were able to go “Christmas” shopping while thousands in OUR OWN gulf states are suffering so much. I’m sure that Jesus is more concerned with “Happy Holiday/Merry Christmas” greetings when WE ARE AT WAR!!! You are INSANE. Whats wrong with you people? I’m sure Jesus just loves those cash registers ringing up sales in his name as poor people struggle to put food in their mouths.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 04:17 PM | Link to this

Daniel, 1)The enemy consists of several different types. You have the Saddam loyalists and then the foreign fighters. We are getting better at pinpointing them among the crowds of your everyday Iraqi. 2) The Iraq war is part of the war on terror in that there are foreign fighters that we are killing there. If we weren’t killing them there we would be in Afghanistan or they would be carrying out attacks elsewhere. 3) No we are not making the situation worse. Iraq is getting better. The number of attacks and suicide bombings was at a seven month low in Nov. Attacks will increase around the elections but successful elections will be a major blow to the insurgents.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 04:20 PM | Link to this

This Justin, what have you done to help the people in New Orleans?

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 04:22 PM | Link to this

This Justin, have you refused to buy Christmas presents this year due to the hurricane?

By This Justin

December 13, 2005 04:30 PM | Link to this

“Christmas” presents??????? Ricky as a Christian I would never disrepect Jesus and participate in this commercialized buying frenzy and pagan false idol worshipping. I will honor him in my own home with PRIVATE PRAYER. REMEMBER that?????

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 04:32 PM | Link to this

This Justin, you are so full of yourself. Obviously your posts are full of lies and you are just trying to stir the pot. What part about Christmas and buying presents leads to pagan false idol worship? You can celebrate Christman by going to church and still participate in buy presents for your loved ones.

By Daniel

December 13, 2005 04:37 PM | Link to this

1) They seem to be fighting us and one another. It is hard to distinguish this from a Civil War. One where the “enemy” melts into the population, at will. Thus, making it impossible to measure any gain. Other than the ground you are standing on. 2) I supported the War in Afghanistan. I was hopeful we would secure our position there, first. I feel the government has betrayed our trust in Iraq. The instances of “terror” have increased worldwide, We are now in Iraq longer han we were in the Second World War. 3)I hope you are right. We lost 92 in October. As soon as they show the slightest hint of stability I would like us out. Murtha makes sense. Secure positions in Kuwait and Afghanistan and go into Iraq as needed. I’m a vet and don’t like the idea of our guys as targets.

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 04:38 PM | Link to this

Just finished reading the thread. Great job Andy! It looks like a bunch of pack animals came after you without much success.

Did Geezur really defend the article on p-issing off Iraqis on a thread about ml’s Christmas carnival cartoon by saying he did it to stay on topic?

By This Justin

December 13, 2005 04:39 PM | Link to this

Ricky ever hear of Santa Claus, the biggest insult to Jesus ever???? Have you ever heard of the moneychangers???? Jesus did not like profiteers using GODS name for profit. Do you think Jesus, the one who spoke out against PUBLIC PRAYER condones this spectacle of “CHRISTMAS” in HIS NAME?? That is the craziest thing I have ever heard. READ THE BIBLE!!!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 04:40 PM | Link to this

I just walked past the TV set which was tuned to SuperPinko Oprah Winfrey. I love my wife, I’ve talked about this with her, I guess it’s a chick thing. But I caught the theme of SuperPinko’s show; Was it “DYING! SUFFERING! In New Orleans!” Or maybe “Please send your donations to St. Bernard Parish, courtesy of He’sJustAPinko.” Nope. None of that.

It was “The Secret Love Lives Of Suburban Housewifes!!”

Now say what you will, I’m betting my bottom dollar on the continued success of the Conservatives. We seem to be a little bit more serious about things. Justanopinion!

Merry Christmas!

By getalife

December 13, 2005 04:41 PM | Link to this

RW, Tell me that it is not Ann in Mike’s drawing.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 04:42 PM | Link to this

Daniel, we are making gains in Iraq. We have pacified regions of Iraq that were once terrorists havens. Instances of terror have been on the rise since the 1990’s. And we haven’t been in Iraq longer than we were in World War II. We were in WW II from 8 Dec 1941 until 15 August 1945, almost four years. We invaded Iraq on March 20th 2003. That is not even three years yet. You are just flat wrong on that one. I agree that as soon as Iraq is stablized we should begin withdrawing.

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 04:45 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Your photoshop pics are on about the same level as ml’s scribbles, if that’s what you mean.

By Dusty

December 13, 2005 04:45 PM | Link to this

This Justin,

If you have never been shopping then you have no food in your kitchen and no clothes on your back, much less Christmas gifts. Don’t knock it.

Our country has not forgotten Katrina victims. Housing benefits have been extended to February by the government. The National Headquarters of my church have sent an avalanche of relief supplies and help and plan to continue. Our local churches have sent aid to individual churches and groups. That is good. But I do think it is easier to forget a stricken man in the Himalayas than it is to forget a stricken victim of Katrina. Both need help. Our denomination (Lutheran) is well known for its international disaster response. If you want an address, let me know. Be happy!

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 04:45 PM | Link to this

This Justin, nobody worships Santa Claus. Christmas is celebrated in two ways. By the exchanging of gifts which came from the German tradition of St. Nicholas. The other way is obviously what Christians do. Obviously you are full of anger and hate. Mabye you should get someone to look at that for you.

By Daniel

December 13, 2005 04:46 PM | Link to this

Fair enough. I was counting from September 11, 2001.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 04:47 PM | Link to this

One day the Iraqi’s will be so free, they will be exploding in groups of crowded people….with democracy of course

so cAndy waits until RW shows up to start again???

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 04:49 PM | Link to this

Interesting, the following was the original tagline for the movie Airplane!:

What’s slower than a speeding bullet, and able to hit tall buildings at a single bound?

How appropriate is that now (maybe that was pinko forshadowing….lol)?

By getalife

December 13, 2005 04:50 PM | Link to this

RW, Thanks for the compliment. How about Andy watching Oprah? You know she wants Hilliary to be President.

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 04:51 PM | Link to this

getalife,

It looks a little like Susan

Please don’t add the body!!

Geezur, look ^ ^ Slate ^ ^ do I get extra credit?

By This Justin

December 13, 2005 04:52 PM | Link to this

Here’s another false idol for you Ricky, MONEY!

How many of these good Chritian stores you buy your “presents” from are going to return their Christmas profits to the poor? You know the profits they made in GODS NAME??????? NONE. You said its “what Christians do”, well WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?????

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 04:55 PM | Link to this

This Justin, I said what Christians do is celebrate the birth of Jesus through church and prayer. Why are you taking my words out of context?

By getalife

December 13, 2005 04:56 PM | Link to this

On Geezus link, the women on top were from Atlanta and the women on the left were from Lafayette.

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 04:58 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Geezur must be getting links from BigDaddy.

By This Justin

December 13, 2005 05:05 PM | Link to this

No Ricky, you people celebrate Christmas with Wal-Mart stampeeds trying to get $300.00 laptops. You stuff yourselves silly-GLUTONY. You buy thousand dollar gold bracelets-GREED. You LIE to your kids about Santa Claus. Then you make EACH OTHER fill all cozy in your sin telling each other how much God loves you.

GREED GLUTONY LIES and FALSE IDOLS don’t you just love Christmas?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 05:06 PM | Link to this

missuz: You are tracking my every move now? so cAndy waits until RW shows up to start again??? You are just fascinated by me, aren’t you? Do you hate going to sleep at night knowing that I won’t be back in your life until morning? Did you ever consider printing my posts as they become available so you can read them in the wee hours of the morning? Weirdo.

Merry Christmas!

By Scooter

December 13, 2005 05:13 PM | Link to this

How many jobs did that store provide? How many jobs did the transporter of those goods provide? How many jobs did the logistics firm that got those goods to market provide? How many jobs did the producer of those goods provide? How many people were employed in the processes of transforming raw materials into the goods people are buying for the holidays? How many of those people will in turn buy goods for their loved ones with the pay they recieved?

The grand question; How many jobs or services have the poor produced? It’s kinda like the left’s mindless argument that the tax cuts should have gone to the poor, if we wanted to create jobs. I have been asking homeless people for jobs, but they all look at me funny. How many homeless people do you think Derrick Bozeman hired to run his failed campaign?

By Brian Curtis

December 13, 2005 05:21 PM | Link to this

By golly, Scooter, you’re right! Jesus really WAS all about celebrating the wealthy and the accumulation of material goods.

It’s a darn shame he’s been so thoroughly misquoted all these centuries. Thanks for setting everyone straight.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 05:27 PM | Link to this

We should build a fence around these punk a-sses-

OTTAWA/SURREY, British Columbia (Reuters)-The United States made an unprecedented foray into Canada’s election campaign on Tuesday, warning politicians not to bash Washington in their bid to win the January 23 election.

But an unapologetic Liberal Prime Minister Paul Martin responded immediately by saying “c’est la vie” — that’s life — if the United States did not like his remarks, and he would not accept anyone telling him he cannot defend his country.

I’d make hints to Russia that we will not defend these loudmouth sissy iceburg jockeys if they should choose to invade them, wink, wink. It will give us a closer working relationships with the Kosacks anyway.

Merry Christmas!

By This Justin

December 13, 2005 05:29 PM | Link to this

“The grand question; How many jobs or services have the poor produced?”

I’m sure Jesus would be proud of that statement, I see we have another “good Christian” on our hands. WOW!

Jesus’s LIFE was all about helping the sick and poor, conquering greed and living in peace. He battled for the underdog.

Here’s a challenge for you so-called christians, how about this year since we are at war and our Gulf Coast has been devastated by a hurricane, we give up the gold chains, and making ourselves sick with turkey and help out our friends in need? What a better way to honor the lifes work of Jesus. Oops I forgot, Christmas is no longer about Jesus.

(And if you think the Gulf Coast is full of Bozman homeless people, well…..)

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 05:31 PM | Link to this

Justin, I will ask you this again, what have you done to help the victims of Katrina. All you do is rant and rave like a ragaging lunatic.

By Scooter

December 13, 2005 05:32 PM | Link to this

By golly fish giver and dependency lover, didn’t Jesus say there will always be the poor? By the way I’m agnostic, but I would never go out and talk bad about Jesus’s followers. For it is the creator to judge, not you and I, he will decide on an individual basis.

How many people have you allowed to become dependent on government today. Dependency is the worst kind of power and the left hands it out everyday, cause it eases their conscience. Hitler gave the people a car, think of what we could convince them of if we gave them socialized medicine. Tough love is truly more compassionate than pity hand outs, better recognize fool.

Thos ehomeless people have such strong work ethics and don’t feel like they are entitled to anything, right Brian. Who do you think you are kidding, their work ethic generally sucks.

By Objective Observer

December 13, 2005 05:35 PM | Link to this

This Justin: Are you or your family in need this Christmas? If you are, just ask. There are so many people looking to help out wherever possible.

By This Justin

December 13, 2005 05:44 PM | Link to this

When Jesus was creating food out of thin air was their some sort of test they were given to make sure they deserved it, NO! He cared only that they were hungry.

Ricky, this is an anonymous blog, I could say I gave a million dollars or nothing.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 05:45 PM | Link to this

This Justin, my point is that I am pretty sure you are full of hot air and just posting random things on here to try and stir the pot. You are after the all the same person that compared soldiers to abortion doctors. Your posts are good for a laugh though.

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 05:53 PM | Link to this

[Why do the Democrats think their followers are too stupid to write their own letters}(http://www.democrats.org/page/speakout/alito?js=true&zip=20003)?

When the screen comes up just click “Compose letter”.

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 05:55 PM | Link to this

Why do the Dems…

I guess I’m too hungry to link with all this talk of pot stirring going on.

By Brian Curtis

December 13, 2005 05:57 PM | Link to this

Why do neocons let talk-radio pundits do all their thinking (let alone letter-writing) for them? I can’t tell you how many drones I’ve heard parroting Whatever Rush Said Today on these forums… and acting proud of their lockstep conformity.

Scooter: No, I would never criticize Jesus’ followers either… but what does that have to do with the greedy neocons who CLAIM to be Christians and aren’t? I believe Jesus knew them as “hypocrites.”

By getalife

December 13, 2005 05:59 PM | Link to this

Thanks RW, I wrote “Just say no to Alito.” I wonder if the DNC will use it on a bumper sticker?

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 06:00 PM | Link to this

Brain Curtis,

Tell us oh wise one, what did Rush say today?

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 06:00 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis, who do you consider neocons? What is your definition of a neocon? People on both sides that don’t like to think on their own follow Dean, Reid, Frist, etc. You appear to be doing the same thing by refering to all conservatives as neocons. I would be more than happy to debate you on any topic. If you read the blog earlier you will see that I had a good spirited debate with a couple members of your side of the political aisle.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 06:03 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis, you are doing exactly what you are picking on others doing. You lump all conservatives together as neocons. What is your definition of a neocon? Lets debate any issue and see who has more creative thought and their own ideas.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 06:03 PM | Link to this

Brian: It sure would be nice if you could share some kind of idea with us that we all could possiby debate, instead of your normal whining and moaning about everything. You sound like a little pinko girl.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 06:03 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Did it fill in the body of the letter? It seems like there are three or four different ones, but they may not show if it isn’t the computer it was emailed to.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 06:04 PM | Link to this

getalife, why do you oppose Alito?

By getalife

December 13, 2005 06:11 PM | Link to this

RW, I checked all the papers and deleted their rhetoric and put in my saying. Ricky, I have no opinion on Alito because he has not been heard yet.

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 06:15 PM | Link to this

getalife, I assumed from your earlier post about the bumper sticker that you were anti-Alito.

By getalife

December 13, 2005 06:16 PM | Link to this

RW works for the RNC and I work for the DNC just kidding.

By Scooter

December 13, 2005 06:17 PM | Link to this

I am on the email list of all political parties and many environmental groups. Through my years of email reciepts I have received emails that number ten to one, democrat to republicrat. Not to mention the spell it out for me MoveOn emails, but the republicrats are the ones being lead. Oh yeah, talk radio. But I listen to WRFG and Air America, they just don’t take my calls. However, the screener is always nice enought o yell and degrade me, such understanding from the left.

By Brian Curtis

December 13, 2005 06:18 PM | Link to this

Ricky: If you’re not a neocon, then there’s no reason for you to take offense. A neocon is someone who is in lockstep agreement with luntaics like O’Reilly and Limbaugh; who embraces the notion of a Christian nation and an American empire (no matter how that would violate the Constitution); and who inexplicably calls himself a “Christian” while spreading as much hate and viciousness as possible toward poor people, gays, women, and minorities, particularly those “worthless” ones in other countries.

If that’s not you, then congratulations: you have a brain.

By Scooter

December 13, 2005 06:20 PM | Link to this

Well, Brit Hume is coming on and that is the news show that I watch. Because, Faux News is the only one that will illustrate that dems do stupid stuff just like the republicrats.

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 06:23 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis,

If a neocon has to march in lockstep with O’Reilly and Limbaugh then there is no such thing as a neocon.

Do you see things lurking in the shadows as you walk, too?

By Ricky

December 13, 2005 06:23 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis, your definition of a neo-conservative is a joke. O’Reilly and Limbaugh are not even identified as neo-cons. Not to mention that the only people that use that term are mostly Dems. Even though Dems like to throw that name at people, fellow Dems like Jean Kirkpatrick and Scoop Jackson have been identified as neo-cons.

By getalife

December 13, 2005 06:23 PM | Link to this

Okay, I just took my meds but Scooter sounds alot like Andy. Scooter usually writes one line.

By Brian Curtis

December 13, 2005 06:29 PM | Link to this

But Ricky, O’Reilly and Limbaugh DO have a lot in common—as I said, they’re both lunatics.

And anyone who gets their ideas from either one is a pathetic tool of the neocon agenda, even if they differ from other similar suckers in minor ways.

By candide

December 13, 2005 06:30 PM | Link to this

I have to laugh at the liberal Christians trying to persuade the Christian Fascists that Jesus would not support their version of Christian faith. You liberal Christians don’t understand the beauty of evangelical faith: you just say you believe in Jesus, he has to save you, and you can be as selfish and un-Christian as you like. Compared to this, the Catholic use and misuse of the confessional is child’s play.

Face it liberal Christians: you are in a belief system which is easy to distort for Fascistic purposes, hard to stick to the alleged purposes of Jesus, whatever those might have been. Christianity went off track in 70AD with the destruction of the Jewish Christians who were the only ones who really followed Jesus. Since then Christianity has been a gentile con game.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 06:32 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis: I’ll take it a step further you are a joke. while spreading as much hate and viciousness as possible toward poor people, gays, women, and minorities, particularly those “worthlessâ€? ones in other countries. It sure would be nice if you could show us some proof of these things you say. Limbaugh transcripts his shows in their entirety. I don’t pay O’Reilly any attention because he is a lib like you, so I can’t speak for him.

Or are you a typical pinko who doesn’t worry about proof when you bash America?

Merry Christmas!

By sct

December 13, 2005 06:40 PM | Link to this

Candide, didn’t you get the christian memo? You can also be a good christian just by ending a post with “Merry Christmas!”

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 06:41 PM | Link to this

I found Brian Curtis:

Brian Curtis has exhibited his paintings in juried, invitational, and solo exhibitions throughout North America. He is the author of Drawing from Observation, an introductory perceptual drawing textbook published by McGraw-Hill’s College Division. Curtis is also an Associate Professor of Painting at the University of Miami in Coral Gables, Florida.

URL probably not safe for work

http://www.glosszine.org/issue1/1curtis1.htm

By Daniel

December 13, 2005 07:03 PM | Link to this

Some of you take yourselves way too seriously.

By getalife

December 13, 2005 07:12 PM | Link to this

I need a link to this video

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 13, 2005 07:19 PM | Link to this

The Army has exceeded recruiting goals in the first two months of this fiscal year, reversing a trend that had some Iraq critics saying the armed services branch was “broken.”

If these keeps up, why, we’ll lose in Iraq for sure, we should run now!

Merry Christmas!

By getalife

December 13, 2005 07:27 PM | Link to this

Here you go Andy

By Huh?

December 13, 2005 08:08 PM | Link to this

That’s not a semi-nude model idiot. That’s a drawing of a poster of a model. You have a truly sick mind if that stimulated you somehow Mr. Ashcroft.

By Huh?

December 13, 2005 08:14 PM | Link to this

Andy, you are another joyful idiot. Of course they reached their goals. They lowered their goal from @80,000 to @60,000 for idiots like you who blindly vote their hatred.

By Scooter

December 13, 2005 08:34 PM | Link to this

Brian must have gone to serve dinner in one of the many privately owned and government subsidized shelters. http://www.nytimes.com/packages/khtml/2005/08/30/national/20050830STORMFEATURE.html

I hope that Candide comes back to prove that she thinks beyond a third grade level of common sense. It would truly be a shame if she left on such a display of nuance and acrobatic denial of ignorance, by a true linguist. For people who really want to know, I advise reading behind the blue and see what fascism really is. Anyone who would voluntarily give up free markets for government manipulated and semi controlled ones… well they really think they have a handle on the forces of power in the world.

Candide, you really should read that link. So maybe you will truly see the light and prevent the dems from walking this free country into the bear trap of dependency.

While I composed that small piece of intelligent discourse above, apparently a new hater has appeared with regurgitated hatred towards conservatives. Probably a closet pinko. But, at least the new one has a good name, Huh. That’s is what I usualy say to them in bars, when they loudely and aggresively run up in my face. Spewing things they know little about, like damn used car salesmen. Or I visit the County jail.

By whynot

December 13, 2005 08:44 PM | Link to this

Scooter, can I buy crack from you?

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 09:10 PM | Link to this

By I Wish I Was cAndy

December 13, 2005 06:32 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis: I’ll take it a step further you are a joke. while spreading as much hate and viciousness as possible toward poor people, gays, women, and minorities, particularly those “worthless� ones in other countries. It sure would be nice if you could show us some proof of these things you say. Limbaugh transcripts his shows in their entirety. I don’t pay O’Reilly any attention because he is a lib like you, so I can’t speak for him.

Wow cAndy, I guess you can give up the whole “I’m a christian” & “I’ve never talked down to anyone” high-road you’ve been rolling on for so long.

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 09:12 PM | Link to this

So for all the war-mongering christians out there (who apparently haven’t realized that this is NOT a holy war). What do you consider being a good christian?

By Scooter

December 13, 2005 09:15 PM | Link to this

Why Not, if you want some hard hard all you gotta do is call me. We can meet some where around Atlanta Area Tech, or maybe East Point. You want a slab, or what?

By rushncap

December 13, 2005 09:16 PM | Link to this

Wow, Scooter, are you Andy’s gay lover?

By whynot

December 13, 2005 09:17 PM | Link to this

sure why not

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 09:18 PM | Link to this

Geezur,

Cute trick taking a quotation of someone else’s remarks and attributing them to the person quoting them.

By Scooter

December 13, 2005 09:22 PM | Link to this

rushncap, why do you ask? Are you yourself curious how this freedom loving bronco rides?

By Geezus

December 13, 2005 09:27 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 04:01 PM | Link to this

Geezur,

Expectations are for a turnout of over 70% for this election, if we are imposing our style of democracy wouldn’t it be closer to 40%?

I don’t know, perhaps some insight into where the 40% number you came up with came from? A link does no good here you see, because there has NEVER been a Democratic election in Iraq country before - i.e. it’s all speculative. What happens when the wrong person gets elected, are we then obligated to “take them out” because their democracy isn’t the same flavor as ours? or because now there is SO much deep-seated hate toward the US in Iraq that the new Iraqi administration actually DOES embrace terrorist cells and aggressively attacks the US? Hell, Bushie may be propping up and traingin our next enemy - kinda like Reagan and Bin Laden.

By whynot

December 13, 2005 09:28 PM | Link to this

I think he’s more curious of how you got the intelligance to actually type

By rushncap

December 13, 2005 09:34 PM | Link to this

Idle curiosity is one of my vices, Scooter. I am now starting to doubt that you are, by the way. You at least have a sense of humor. In my experience people with and without senses of humor don’t date.

By RW-(the original)

December 13, 2005 09:39 PM | Link to this

Geezur,

Let’s try again, see if you can stay current this time.

Expectations are for a turnout of over 70% for this election, if we are imposing our style of democracy wouldn’t it be closer to 40%?

As in a typical election here. (Here being the United States), but hey in a Presidential election year it may get near 60%.

there has NEVER been a Democratic election in Iraq country before - i.e. it’s all speculative.

Beyond that point in your post there is nothing but hypotheticals and tripe.

By Scooter

December 13, 2005 10:01 PM | Link to this

rushncap, you never know, maybe I was at the Toy Party last weekend.