Mike Luckovich

By Jude

December 8, 2005 10:27 PM | Link to this

Where is Andy tonight? Did he go back in the closet?

By RW-(the original)

December 8, 2005 10:27 PM | Link to this

Maybe this is why Saddam said he wouldn’t come back to court until he had clean underwear.

but ml, He also asked for a shirt and a clean suit.

By buff

December 8, 2005 10:33 PM | Link to this

RW

Here is Loomey-Tooney Lamovich with another MAN in his UNDERWEAR

I copied and sent it to my psych friend

She kind of agreed with your blog assessment the other night, but did say she WOULD not leave her two small children alone with him, even though she thinks he is completely harmless, but ya’ never know

By Jude

December 8, 2005 10:39 PM | Link to this

Andy, Andy, he’s our man, He contributes all he can. What is it he contributes? Wonder if he could get a job blowing up birthday balloons.

By RW-(the original)

December 8, 2005 10:44 PM | Link to this

buff,

Here is a better one. Not only a better cartoon, but clothes and everything.

A few more here

By Horace

December 8, 2005 10:50 PM | Link to this

Buff: How did you get the name Buff? In the buff maybe? You seem pretty interested in every cartoon that shows men in their underwear also. Has your friend checked you out also? Maybe she just didn’t tell you she was checking you. Wouldn’t that be a hoot?

By buff

December 8, 2005 10:57 PM | Link to this

RW, now those are good cartoons. That first one was great artwork; much better than goofy’s childish scribblings

By buff

December 8, 2005 11:05 PM | Link to this

Whore-Ace, naw, in grade school I played Buffalo Bill in a 4th grade play

But, Whore-Ace, Looney-Tooney-Lameovich is the one that seems to have a fascination for MEN inUNDERWEAR

My comments concern pictorial hermeneutical analysis

By Horace

December 8, 2005 11:12 PM | Link to this

Buff: Whore on the brain also? Your friend will have lots to work with on you.

By buff

December 8, 2005 11:14 PM | Link to this

Midori/Candide/heavenly, where are you hon? Is your welfare check still missing?

And where is that hot little devil dog?

By RW-(the original)

December 8, 2005 11:16 PM | Link to this

buff,

One of the references for ‘hermeneutical’ on onelook.com is the worthless word of the day dictionary.

By Horace

December 8, 2005 11:22 PM | Link to this

Buff: Will you be attending the world cup? So many whores, so little time.

By buff

December 8, 2005 11:33 PM | Link to this

RW, yeah, the word is the brain-child of post-modern critics, goes well with “discursive analysis”

That being said, the PMs have some decent ideas about architecture. The “form follows the function of modernism is UGLY

Whore-a-ss, you have a good evening, and, if you get an original thought of your own creation, share it with the world

By buff

December 8, 2005 11:34 PM | Link to this

Whore-a-ss, I forgot your other personae, but, NeoReo and my two sons say “hi”

By Horace

December 8, 2005 11:38 PM | Link to this

Whoa, calling in the calvry? Gramps and the boys. Must have really hit a nerve.

By rushncap

December 9, 2005 01:10 AM | Link to this

Horace — you hit a nerve all right. His only one. The one that goes to the sphincter.

By candide

December 9, 2005 06:47 AM | Link to this

This trial is a farce. Those controlling Iraq currently, the Kurds, Shiites and Americans, will not allow any verdict but guilty.

It is Bush/Cheney who should be put on trial for high crimes and misdemeanors.

By Bill

December 9, 2005 07:15 AM | Link to this

ML draws a “right” leaning cartoon and nobody mentions it? For all those name-callers who banty words like liberal, wingnut, pinko, conservative, radical, etc; here is the historical definition of the word “Liberal”. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism).

*[The classic liberal philosophy places a particular emphasis on the role of property rights in ensuring the rights of the individual, and forms the philosophical underpinning of the free market system. The precepts of classic liberalism were probably best described by John Locke and Adam Smith, and illuminated much of the thought at the time of the American revolution. As a result, the United States Constitution and the United States Declaration of Independence are both documents that embody many principles of classic liberalism.

Modern liberalism tends to deviate from this definition of the term “liberal” in that it espouses the use of the power of government to achieve a variety of desirable goals, ranging from social justice to economic equality.]*

From this perspective I am certainly a liberal (classical variety); happy to share moniker with Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, George Washington, Ben Franklin, and other “Liberals”. Today’s ultra right conservative will find their value set described under the term “Radical”. Name-calling doesn’t bother me so much; just the ignorance of those who use names without knowing their meaning.

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 07:19 AM | Link to this

candide, do you really think Saddam is innocent? Do you doubt that he slaughtered his own people? Do you doubt that he used chemical weapons on his own people? You are starting to sound like Ramsey Clarke who said Saddam had to be rough with the people when they tried to kill him. I mean he only killed about 100 innocent people from one town after it.

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 07:21 AM | Link to this

Bill, the fringes of both parties are radical.

By Bill

December 9, 2005 07:22 AM | Link to this

Touche’ Ricky.

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 07:23 AM | Link to this

Bill not to mention that when the constitution was written we were considered a liberal country just based on what Europe looked at at the time. The classic liberal doesn’t exist in Democratic politics today. You might be one and that is fine, but there isn’t one in the Democratic party. Classic liberalism is all about power for the people not from the government. It is what our country is based on, not what the Democratic party is based on

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 07:33 AM | Link to this

Pardon me for interrupting the morally superior intellectual bantering and the “which founding father most closely resembles me” guessing games, anybody want to take a stab at giving me a summary of what this cartoon means? Try as I may to figure it out it is just too bizarre. I’d especially like to know what the undies have to do with anything.

Don’t try the “he drew a conservative cartoon” nonsense, cartoon boy would cast his 08 vote for Cheney then draw something that made the Cons look good.

Merry Christmas!

By Bill

December 9, 2005 07:36 AM | Link to this

Ricky: I mostly identify with the Republican party at this point in time (most shared values). Your right, there is no place in the Democratic party for a classical liberal (only the modern variety). Just trying to call attention to the fact that these “loaded” words have evolved over time and since most people dont understand what they are saying anyway, the value of such name-calling is nill and fosters divisiveness. Ideas work better than insults.

By Voice of Reason

December 9, 2005 07:37 AM | Link to this

Well Andy, the white undies that some are obsessing about go back to the photos taken of him in his drawers way back. The cartoon is basically saying that the trial is looking like the Saddam show. He’s singing and tapdancing all over the court.

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 07:40 AM | Link to this

Bill, I completely agree with you on the name calling. I think it is a waste of time. In my opinion we should be much more concerned with the exchange of ideas.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 07:40 AM | Link to this

VOR: Dude, they gave him a black suit some time ago. Besides, tapdancers wear tuxedos. Why the undies now?

Merry Christmas!

By Bill

December 9, 2005 07:42 AM | Link to this

Mornin’ Andy: ML has drawn a cartoon in which he mocks Hussein’s antics yesterday in not showing up for trial and the weakness of the court judge in allowing him to get away with it. I think the underwear is a reference to the Saddam complaint that he “hadn’t had a change of clothes in 3 days”. Wonder how often he changed clothes in his spider hole?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 07:47 AM | Link to this

So draw him in smelly clothes. Why the cartoon with undies?

Merry Christmas!

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 07:49 AM | Link to this

thanks Bill! I’m called TrueConservative for similar reasons. I adhere to the Teddy Roosivelt conservative model- conserve the land for our children, conserve civil rights conserve the constitution -its conservativeism with the intent of actually conserving something.

Basically giving a rim job to the GOP doesnt make you ‘conservative’ any more than going to church makes you ‘christian’

Recently in the U.S. people have started calling the desire to make America a theocratic state or generally mimicking anything the GOP says ‘conservative’ re-interpreting the constitution to make sure that only ‘Christians’ on the far right or people that claim to be so have rights is common (and ironically called strict constitutionalism)and patriotism in word rather than deed has become the norm as well IE our contry is perfect(even though the rich are getting richer the poor are getting poorer 60% of us dont have health coverage and corporations are freely pouring mercury in the water)and if you try and fix anything wrong with our country youre an America hating terrorist

basically most of the people that come in here that call themselves ‘Conservative’ are more interested in overthrowing everything ‘American’ about the United States in favor of something that suits their prejudices and desires that they are in conserving the United States

there are alot of poseurs on the right and the left but most ‘True Liberals’ are also ‘True Conservatives’ the extreme right and left just use these terms because they sound better than ‘Communist’ (far left)or ‘Fascist’(far right)

By Bill

December 9, 2005 07:50 AM | Link to this

Guess the idea is that clothes are SOOOOOO stinky that he can’t stand to smell himself. Disrobing also particularly offensive to Muslim values so serves as a slap thereby.

By Voice of Reason

December 9, 2005 07:53 AM | Link to this

Andy - I know they gave him a suit, but referring back to the white undies photo was probably an attempt at humor. A bad one, but still an attempt nonetheless.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 07:56 AM | Link to this

TrueConservative: Where would this term fit in your superior world view-giving a rim job to the GOP- Is this one of those do as I say not as I do incidents? Hypocrite pinko.

Bill: So it’s a slap at the rule of the law?

Merry Christmas!

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 07:58 AM | Link to this

i think its a reference to that time magazine cover where he was handcuffed in undies- ML prolly drew it that way cause its like a train wreck you cant get the image out of your head-

ick i kinda feel like the guy from the crying game after seing that picture

im gonna go baithe…twice

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 07:59 AM | Link to this

True, wow you sound disgruntled. While I agree with you that the current adminstration is not acting how you would expect them to as conservatives, especially on fiscal matters, I think you have gone overboard a little. I think the “power” of the so called Religious Right is overblown and nobody really wants to make America a theocracy. That is just hyperbole used by forces of the left. And as long as we have capitalism there will be rich and poor. Thats just the way it is. And where did you get the number that 60% of Americans don’t have health coverage? I have never seen that before.

By Bill

December 9, 2005 08:00 AM | Link to this

True Conservative- hi compadre’. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Don’t think the “ultra”s are intending to resurrect fascism/communism or harm America. They are simply misguided and don’t understand what Jefferson told us.-

“A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both, and deserve neither�-Thomas Jefferson

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 08:01 AM | Link to this

VOR: If I could look back through the cartoon boy archives and find other examples of humor, I could agree with you. Luckovich is bitter and angry because Gore and then Dean didn’t get elected (the basic pinko rage.) He is incapable of humor.

Merry Christmas!

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 08:02 AM | Link to this

i criticise both sides of the party line and frequently vote on either side as well

it just so happens that theres more to be sickened by coming from the GOP these days.

I dont give rim jobs… but apparently you do

By Bill

December 9, 2005 08:05 AM | Link to this

Andy: Naw I think ML genuinely deriding SH. Slap was personal, I think, based on SH’s Muslim values. Hard to comprehend because there doesn’t seem to be a liberal slant. Like playing “Where’s Waldo”.

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 08:06 AM | Link to this

that last post was for WishIWasAndy

I agree Bill i dont think most ‘conservatives’ go that far more often christians follow the GOP because of the ‘Pro Jesus’ advertizing…

they follow the GOP for the same reason people think drinking Budweiser makes you irresistable to women

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 08:09 AM | Link to this

True, I would love to hear some of your positions that you think make you a “TrueConservative” as opppossed to todays GOP. As I said earlier, there are things I disagree with them on such as spending, imigration, etc. But I would like to hear what you have to say. Also, I think you are overblowing the so called power of the religious right. It is much like Hollywood to the left, lots of stuff in the news, but no real power

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 08:09 AM | Link to this

TrueConservative: Look, clown, you are the one using the term “rim job.” Right in the middle of some high minded diatribe about other people calling names. It is the absolute definition of hypocrite, oh, I forgot, you pinkos are better than everybody else, you don’t have to follow your own rules. My bad.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 08:11 AM | Link to this

Bill: So he’s trying to liven up a mass murderer?

Merry Christmas!

By Voice of Reason

December 9, 2005 08:13 AM | Link to this

Andy - very well dude. It’s not that deep an issue for me.

By Bill

December 9, 2005 08:14 AM | Link to this

Andy/True: All on this blog guilty of name-calling in past (self included, sadly). Hard habit to break. Agree with Andy; let’s take the higher road from now on and give this blog some real value.

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 08:15 AM | Link to this

i simply stated that giving the GOP a rim job doesnt make you a conservative. Heres a little quiz-

Offering nothing but praise for the GOP when theyre running the economy into the ground, letting oil execs get away with murder and filling the air with pretty lies…

‘Conservativism’ or ‘rim job’?

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 08:18 AM | Link to this

I agree Bill

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 08:19 AM | Link to this

Andy and I cant ever seem to talk like adults… its hard to talk policy while peopleare calling you a communist because you think poor people should have health care too

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 08:20 AM | Link to this

True, the way you talk doesn’t sound like a conservative to me. And the fact that you won’t answer my questions leads me to believe that you are sandbagging, but thats just my opinion. I am no defender of the GOP, but as a conservative I agree with most of their policy ideas. Show me evidence of how the economy is being ruined. and if you say becuase of the deficit you trully don’t understand economics

By Bill

December 9, 2005 08:22 AM | Link to this

Andy: Don’t think ‘liven up’ is the right phrase. ML seem to be saying that SH is being treated with kid gloves and that the Iraqi court shouldn’t allow him to do his song and dance. That’s the conservative position isn’t it? That’s what is so confusing- no apparent liberal slant. Can anybody come up with a liberal interpretation for this cartoon? Andy and I are confused.

By candide

December 9, 2005 08:22 AM | Link to this

Ricky: I agree with Don Imus that as bad as Saddam was, he will be replaced by a dictator just as brutal, for only a brutal ruler can keep Iraq together. We shall have had our boys and girls killed for nought.

By Murf

December 9, 2005 08:23 AM | Link to this

TrueC-try being compared to abortion docs and killers because you were in the military. Where is Justin anyways? His posts make me laugh

By Murf

December 9, 2005 08:25 AM | Link to this

I hope they put the Sadaam execution on TV! PPV even, I’d pay

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 08:27 AM | Link to this

candide, wow you are definelty in the Dean and Kerry camp. What have you based your opinion on? Remember back in the 90’s when Bosnia and Kosovo were ongoing and Clinton didn’t want to get involved at first because of the history of the Balkans becuase there was no way they could have democratic governments in that region? Well it has worked out so far

By Murf

December 9, 2005 08:28 AM | Link to this

Ricky, I don’t think you should bring up the ‘D’ word. That man’s name makes me sick.

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 08:30 AM | Link to this

Murf, well at least he is entertaining

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 08:30 AM | Link to this

well i have alot of beef with preident clinton but at least the deficits were coming under control in those days… theres nothing conservative about taking government spending to levels unheard of by any andministration… i understand economics enough to know that we are in uncharted territory and that when hundreds of top economists from universities all over the U.S. are writing letters saying the Prsident is crazy you should probably listen.

As for conservativism- I believe in conserving the constitution… most gun control laws are innefective at best and cause new gun trafficing at worst…

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 08:32 AM | Link to this

Look: I don’t mind the name calling, I use it as punctuation. You will never hear me complain about the many vicious things that other people call conservatives. It comes with the turf. What bothers me is the people in this blog who write these long drawn out essays about how they are so much better than everybody else because they don’t call names. And then right in the middle of it, they call you a nazi or some such. And if they can’t understand what you are trying to say, instead of consulting a dictionary, they arbitrarily label it as hate speech.

Which is why cartoon boy draws people naked. Not just Saddam, but the prez and Dick Cheney, because he believes that he is better than anybody else. It is an inherent liberal trait, all you self appointed judges in here might want to research the elite ruling classes over world history; you are starting to sound quite a bit like them.

Cartoon boy is mocking the American type justice system, the rule of law, per se. It is a luxury afforded to him from his pedestal, if we had shot Saddam in the street when we captured him, cartoons about not giving him a trial would still be running. Now that we respect justice and give this guy a fair trial, unintended consequences open the door to ridicule. Any position that the United States takes they can’t win, because cartoon boy takes the anti American position; as soon as he knows what it is.

Merry Christmas!

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 08:34 AM | Link to this

True, you sound like you don’t have a good concept of what conservatism is about, but thats not your fault. When the budget was balanced that was the Republican Congress making Clinton do that not the other way around. The Clinton fans like to claim that but it wasn’t him, it was Congress. I would love to see proof of the hundreds of top economists writing letters that you are talking about. There are plenty of economists that say we are doing just fine. Revenue is up, taxes and unemployment are down, inflation is steady, and Congress is finally starting to do something about the god awful pork barrel politics we have right now.

By buff

December 9, 2005 08:36 AM | Link to this

Good pol ‘toons are based upon sarcasm or irony; this ‘toon is neither. It really makes no political statement

I cannot think of any true classical liberals in government today. Mob Barr sort of fit that category when he was in office

I wish William Buckley or Thomas Sowell would run for Prez

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 08:40 AM | Link to this

conservation should be central to conservativism- ‘clear skies initiative’ lets corporations self regulate… that should be called the black skies initiative anybody see the oil execs that didnt get sworn in? yeah… they lied…alot thats why they werent sworn in… ‘family values’ platform basically centers on abortion and gay marrage but pays no mind to families who cant afford health care, housing, urban development or an other program that helps families- that huge tax cut for the filthy rich could have helped thousands of families get health care- but family values isnt about families- its about the governement controlling womens reproductive process and about making sure that straight people have more rights than gay people….

By Bill

December 9, 2005 08:40 AM | Link to this

Ricky: Bosnia and Kosovo (rest of the Balkans for that matter not so nice a place today). Crushing poverty, little development of infrastructure. Governments in this and even main European theater remain in a state of flux and can swing either way at this time (hope we influence them in a way that benefits us- so far not doing a very good job). Remember that Spain elected a Socialist government after 9/11 and their own train bombing. New government make conciliatory gestures to muslim extremists (relaxing immigration restrictions, ammnesty, etc.). Since Spain’s Muslim community is now opposing extremists and have issued their own Fatwah (rebuke carrying penalty of death) against Osama Bin Laden; one has to wonder if the Spanish approach may not have value. As in Sumo wrestling; sometimes you win by just relaxing and letting the enemy defeat themselves.

By Murf

December 9, 2005 08:42 AM | Link to this

Oh, lets talk about something else, Does anyone actually think this Crips founder should get pardoned?

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 08:49 AM | Link to this

Conservativism is a pollitical philosophy based on maintainng those traditional elements of a society that have stood the test of time… conserving the land… the rights of the people… the pollitical philosophy that makes our nation great- i have a perfect grasp of true conservativism

its this neoconism i dont get… ‘we should bankrupt superfund so that citizens have to pay to clean up corporate toxic spills, cut any program that helps the poor, and make wars on people who didnt attack us instead of going after the people who did… thats what Jesus would do!! really I wouldnt lie’

By Bill

December 9, 2005 08:49 AM | Link to this

Andy: where has anyone here claimed to be superior to anyone else? Expressing ideas doesn’t equate to condecension. The day I “know it all” will be the day I’m ready for the grave.

By Murf

December 9, 2005 08:50 AM | Link to this

Hey Liberals, Never forget…

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 08:53 AM | Link to this

I dont agree with capitol punishment… killing only causes more killing

if we didnt have millions in jail for minor marijuana offenses we would have plenty of room for killers and rapists instead of letting them go free

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 08:54 AM | Link to this

Bill…you rock

By Murf

December 9, 2005 08:58 AM | Link to this

Why are you called TrueConservative again?

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 08:59 AM | Link to this

I heard a representitive from texas talking about how his opponent was so weak he wouldnt have executed Hitler…

ironically Hitler would have wanted to be executed…thats why he killed himself he wanted to be a martyr… if Hitler was rotting in some prison there wouldnt be thousands of kids shaving their heads and paying homage to him… same goes for Saddam- it makes a much higher moral statement to keep him in a box until he rots than to kill him and make hima a martyr

By Murf

December 9, 2005 09:00 AM | Link to this

Forget that, just kill him, I could care less if his people see him as a martyr.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 09:01 AM | Link to this

Bill: From this perspective I am certainly a liberal (classical variety); happy to share moniker with Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, George Washington, Ben Franklin, and other “Liberalsâ€?. Today’s ultra right conservative will find their value set described under the term “Radicalâ€?. Name-calling doesn’t bother me so much; just the ignorance of those who use names without knowing their meaning. You sure are taking on a lot of credibility for yourself…

I’m not trying to ridicule anybody, I just want to provoke some thought.

Again, I challenge anybody to find a post where I lectured about what it takes to be a conservative. A “true” Conservative doesn’t have to be told what it is nor do they have to constantly tell everybody that they are.

Merry Christmas!

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 09:08 AM | Link to this

because i believe in phiscal responsibility and family values, conserving the land for our children and conserving our rights and traditions as Americans

I hate it when people are all pro death penalty and they call that christian

and I favor the decriminalization and regulation of Marijuana like many economists… the drug war is a 7 billion dollar a year waste of money that doesnt keep drugs out of the hands of kids… if these substances are regulated theyre harder for kids to get like alchohol or cigarettes… prohibition makes it easy for kids to do dope…it also increases the criminal eliment in our country… did you know that if we regulated it and taxed it Marijuana would yield 15 billion in one year (thats enough to pay for all the protections outlined by the 9/11 commission)it would also help stop drug money from funding terrorist cells and put billions ionto our economy

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 09:14 AM | Link to this

heres some more economic info-

economic info

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 09:19 AM | Link to this

I never wrote an instruction manual about how to be conservative but I will point out those things people call conservative that clearly are not, and I do get angry when people try and use Jesus to sell stuff he is clearly against

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 09:21 AM | Link to this

wow it got quiet! is everybody readin or are you all scared to fuzz is about to kick your door in

By Eric

December 9, 2005 09:24 AM | Link to this

All you weirdos who claim to hate Mike sure do seem obsessed with him. You’re either very childish or you have some type of disorder that probably requires professional help. Good Luckovich to you and good Luckovich to the rest of us until you get treatment. And buff, that play must’ve been over a year ago, it’s time for you to move on.

By Murf

December 9, 2005 09:29 AM | Link to this

No, everyone is quiet because this discussion bores everyone!

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 09:41 AM | Link to this

BTW murf- I never will forget

By candide

December 9, 2005 09:43 AM | Link to this

Ricky: if you think Bosnia and Kossovo are signs of democracy you had better change your koolaid.

You hae been conned by the neocons.

By gadem

December 9, 2005 09:43 AM | Link to this

Murf, I really think the crips leader should have to own up to his mistakes…i mean don’t set a precedent with him because he has changed his life around. There have been many convicted killers that have turned theri lives around in prison that have been put to death. I think that you have to fair across the board.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 09:44 AM | Link to this

No Al Qaeda- Iraq pre 9/11 ties, eh? So what was ABC reporting on?-

• Aug. 25, 1998 (ABC News) — Before the pharmaceutical plant was reduced to rubble by American cruise missiles, the CIA was secretly gathering evidence that ended up putting the facility on America’s target list. Intelligence sources say their agents clandestinely gathered soil samples outside the plant and found, quote, “strong evidence” of a chemical compound called EMPTA, a compound that has only one known purpose, to make VX nerve gas … The U.S. had been suspicious for months, partly because of Osama bin Laden’s financial ties, but also because of strong connections to Iraq. Sources say the U.S. had intercepted phone calls from the plant to a man in Iraq who runs that country’s chemical weapons program.*

Gee. Merry Christmas!

By Murf

December 9, 2005 09:48 AM | Link to this

Thank you gadem, people are saying let him go, he’s changed. What if we capture Osoma, hold onto him for a few years, and he writes childrens books on anti terrorism? Are we supposed to forgive him?

By buff

December 9, 2005 09:48 AM | Link to this

Murf, kill the Crips founder asap

I don’t care how many children’s books he has written

He has never showed remorse for his actions of murdering four people of which we know

After he shot the convenience store worker twice in the back, he laughed while telling people the funny noises the guy made as he died

He is human filth

By gadem

December 9, 2005 09:51 AM | Link to this

So now it is your contention that SH and OBL were planning to attack America? That blurb just says that they intercepted a phone call to a man in Iraq…what is your point Andy?

By finch

December 9, 2005 09:52 AM | Link to this

Why are the BushBots complaining about Mike’s cartoon? The judge in his trial is spineless, and lets Saddam go on toots, like complaining about dirty duds.

cAndy, only you could see this as “mocking the American justice system”. What a stretch. And showing Saddam in undies? Why not? After those pics of him in his BVDs, he’s a poster boy for briefs. Mike could pen a cartoon showing Bush as Moses, and you’d probably find it sacreligious, sarcastic and treasonous.

Real Conservative— how nice to see a real conservative here. I could get to like you!

Please note that no political expletives or sexually suggestive terms were used in this post. As someone guilty of taking the low road here, I find the view from the high road more pleasant. And thank you for shopping Mike.

By sickoftheneocons

December 9, 2005 09:54 AM | Link to this

Andy, ABC news is not on your accepted list for “truthful” news reporting so I’m sorry but I can’t take stock in what they say…

By getalife

December 9, 2005 09:55 AM | Link to this

Andy, That crazy man has a whip in his hand. Are you thinking of Cheney?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 09:56 AM | Link to this

gadem: We invaded Iraq because they were a part of the worldwide terrorist threat. Just like ABC learned from the Clinton Administration. Bush was right all along, Iraq had chemical weapons and they were sharing them with Al Qaeda. Truth hurts, don’t it?

Merry Christmas!

By gadem

December 9, 2005 10:00 AM | Link to this

I don’t agree with the dealth penalty, because I believe that many innocent people have been put to death for crimes that they did not commit. I have a moral objection to it, but if it is the law of the land then it must be carried out accordingly. If it were up to me….

By buff

December 9, 2005 10:02 AM | Link to this

I see where our former Prez, the man who said he “loathed the military,” is going to speak in Montreal at a UN Climate Conference pushing the Kyoto Protocol

What, is Clinton practicing to be Jimmy Carter’s replacement? Why do they advocate policy that harms us economically?

Have y’all been keeping up with Hillary and her run for the White House? I will give her this, she can raise money

By Fire

December 9, 2005 10:02 AM | Link to this

Finally something I have an opinion on!!!! I oppose the death penalty ONLY because I believe the “deceased” could have been more useful in a doctor’s lab. Let’s shoot up the crip leader and then let a doctor do research to determine more effective ways to quickly treat gunshot wounds.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 10:02 AM | Link to this

But it is very difficult to so systematically obstruct a war effort — distorting its causes; condemning its conduct; slandering its leaders; doubting its success; declaring that even if it succeeds it will fail — without giving people a pretty good idea of what you are doing.

The worst part is wondering how much more successfully the war might be going if the country had the benefit of two parties, whatever their differences, equally committed to winning it.

Amen.

Merry Christmas!

By 'achmed

December 9, 2005 10:03 AM | Link to this

die, infidels, die

By getalife

December 9, 2005 10:05 AM | Link to this

die, ‘achmed, die

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 10:07 AM | Link to this

It is significant that the ACLU’s position is that pornography is protected under the Constitution, while the Christmas tree is not. So, if this bunch were successful, the only way you could see a Christmas tree is if you visit a porn shop that had one.

With these thought we want to wish our friends both Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah—at least as long as we are permitted to do so.

Amen.

Merry Christmas!

By achmed

December 9, 2005 10:07 AM | Link to this

candide,

As you know, I am Osama’s bookkeeper. Since we have not received your December donation to our cause we are worried about your support. Allah is watching YOU

By gadem

December 9, 2005 10:11 AM | Link to this

Yeah Andy the truth does hurt, but please share some truth with me. If you continue to rant about the link between Al-Queida and Sadaam….you will indeed be embarassed. But if you want to hold on to the fallacy then you are free to do so.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 10:16 AM | Link to this

gadem: I posted an ABC news blurb about the connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq. How can it be my ranting? Is that the best rebuttal you can come up with, HATE SPEECH!!

Argue with the pinkos that published it, jeez.

Merry Christmas!

By gadem

December 9, 2005 10:18 AM | Link to this

So buff you think that the Kyoto Protocol or Treaty harms our economy? Can it be anymore harmful than all the plant closings and decline in the american peoples pay?

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 10:20 AM | Link to this

Somewhere in the sermonizing ^ ^ up there ^ ^ somebody wanted to know how this cartoon has a liberal slant.

How about the fact that Saddam is drawn as a happy-go-lucky, life-of-the-party type, with a judge from the puppet government, that was implemented by the evil Bush/Cheney regime, that can’t get control of the court room.

Maybe if ml drew Saddam feeding witnesses feet first through a giant shredder you would have a point.

By finch

December 9, 2005 10:21 AM | Link to this

cAndy, what does an alleged link between Iraq and Al Qaeda reported on in 1998 have to do with the 2003 invasion? Answer: nothing.

Full disclosure: When I lived in Arlington, Virginia (near my neighbor, John McCain), I shopped at a convenience store owned by an Arab immigrant. His son attended a mosque later linked to a charity that may have donated to relief groups operating in nations where members of Al-Qaeda may have lived.

Damn! I guess I support terrorism too!

And hats off to the ACLU, which is defending Rush Limbaugh’s right to keep his medical records secret!

By buff

December 9, 2005 10:21 AM | Link to this

Not all editorial boards are pinko

http://www.mdjonline.com/94/10203672.txt

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 10:25 AM | Link to this

wench: So you have evidence that the Iraq- Al Qaeda cooperation closed up shop after 1998 and quit trading chemical weapons among themselves? Care to share it with us?

Merry Christmas!

By sickoftheneocons

December 9, 2005 10:30 AM | Link to this

Why are we even having a discussion about this ABC News report linking Saddam to Al-Quida? The news didn’t come from an acceptable news oulet (ABC is not on Andy’s acceptable news outlet list from yesterday)therefore, it canot possibly be the truth.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 10:35 AM | Link to this

sick: This news item concerning the Al Qaeda- Iraq chemical weapons sharing, seems to have been vetted by the CIA and Clinton Administration. That’s why I believe it. It seems awful strange for them to wait 7 some years to start disputing this. Must be true!

Bush was right! Long hail the Bush!

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 10:37 AM | Link to this

Andy,

I wonder why left wing heartthrob, Richard Clark, was so worried about a “Boogie to Baghdad”?

I wonder how Zarqawi was able to be given treatment and protection in Baghdad after the fall of the Taliban?

Sometimes I wonder why Ramzi Yousef, of 1993 Trade Center bombing fame, arrived here on an Iraqi passport?

Inquiring minds, and all.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 10:42 AM | Link to this

RW: It’s funny how now the Clinton Administration are liars too. If you have something the pinkos don’t want to hear you are a LIAR! or it’s HATE SPEECH!

Merry Christmas!

By buff

December 9, 2005 10:46 AM | Link to this

gadem, the KP is nothing but an economic plan to hurt our economy. If I remember correctly, it was defeated 99-0 in the Senate

If you want to reduce American plant closings reduce the punishment of taxes and regulations on corporations. Why do you think they leave? Jiminy, France is more corporate friendly than we are

Today, in America, workers better be ready to remake themselves through education and training

And, those imports also help lower income families live better. It is rather circuitous, but WalMart also has its positive aspects

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 10:52 AM | Link to this

Among the native-born, Bishop Eddie Long, senior pastor at the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, Ga., has been urging his flock to respond “Merry Christmas” when a store clerk says “Happy Holidays” and make it clear that since retailers are making money from their holiday, customers expect to see respect for it in return. “We’ve been quiet as Christians in reference to a lot of things that have been happening: Can’t display it here, can’t say it there,” he told us. “If we are silent in these kinds of times it gives momentum to those who would push the Christian faith aside and generic-ize it.”

And the pinkos said: HATEMONGERER!!

Merry Christmas, Eddy!

By sickoftheneocons

December 9, 2005 10:54 AM | Link to this

I’d like to introduce another topic to blog just to kick it around a little…What do you think of Michelle Burns’ attempt to keep her lifetime flight priviledges with Delta and what’s your position on corporate executive compensation packages in general?

By gadem

December 9, 2005 10:54 AM | Link to this

Buff, walmart has no positive aspects. They set up shop, and ruin the economic community around them. Once they decide to relocate, the community in turn dies (economically). Their prices are no more competitive than say…Target or Marshalls…

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 10:55 AM | Link to this

Andy,

It’s kind of like when William Cohen explained to the 9/11 commission why the Clinton administration bombed the aspirin and/or chemical weapons factory in Sudan.*1

Wherever it wasn’t ignored it was pointed out that he was, after all, a Republican.

*1-The chemical weapons link between Iraq and Al Queda.

By Fire

December 9, 2005 11:00 AM | Link to this

Gadem, Walmart has the market on one-stop shopping. Am i wrong/misguided for thinking that if a community can not sustain a Walmart then it’s community economic issues are much deeper than the store itself?

By buff

December 9, 2005 11:02 AM | Link to this

Andy, whatever happened to the warm and fuzzy liberals?

Today’s are so mean. I think they are just angry that modern liberalism/socialism/communism repeatedly has proven to be a failure

By gadem

December 9, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this

Sick, most execs are not deserving of the packages that they receive…especially if they run a company into the ground…like Rich McGinn. The problem as I see it with execs, is that even if they do a crappy job, they will leave and go to another company and sit on the BOD.

By sickoftheneocons

December 9, 2005 11:04 AM | Link to this

Fire, I think what gadem was trying to say was that a big box (doesn’t necessarily HAVE to be Wal-Mart) moves into a community, puts the mom and pop stores out of business, decides to close that big box and relocate, then the local economy doesn’t have the mom and pop stores nor do they have the big box (the local community has lost tax revenues from both sources).

By buff

December 9, 2005 11:05 AM | Link to this

gaden, no doubt Walmart hurts mom and pop stores, as does Home Depot.

But, what about Walmart saving money for families? Is not that a positive? Will you at least acknowledge that fact?

By Fire

December 9, 2005 11:06 AM | Link to this

oh…okay. I got it.

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 11:07 AM | Link to this

Who said Wal-Mart is all bad?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 11:10 AM | Link to this

Walmart has raised the standard of living for all Americans by increasing their purchasing power. No one is forced to work or shop at Wal Mart, if you feel that strongly, then drive to your nearest mom n pop. The facts about Wal Mart’s true value to our society are within a google, if you really want to see them.

Merry Christmas, Mr. Walton!

By gadem

December 9, 2005 11:17 AM | Link to this

Andy I have not shopped at Walmart for atleast three years…buff they can increase a typical families purchasing power on some items, but if you really compare prices at other stores, Walmart in some cases are not cheaper.

By sickoftheneocons

December 9, 2005 11:17 AM | Link to this

Mr. Walton is dead…Merry Christmas Walton Family! If there is ever an opening in your family I’ll be happy to fill in!

By Dusty

December 9, 2005 11:19 AM | Link to this

Well, it seems that liberals had rather fight with WalMart than terrorists. It’s a tough battle, but somebody’s got to do it.

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 11:21 AM | Link to this

Actually Andy super walmarts come into small communities and wipe out local buisnesses with unbeatable prices on cheap crap. This puts the locals out of buisness and then they have nowhere to go but Walmart… maybe where you live everybody has a lexus but where i live most people dont own a car- so yes they do force people to shop there and the displaced buisness owners have nowhere to work but walmart- and those full time employees theyre always touting work an average of 30 hours a week- the average walmart supervisor still qualifies for welfare if she has 2 kids

this is a classic example of big buisness robbing from the poor so the rich can get richer- then they pay billions for advertizing and news that reports favorably on them while they build a superstore a couple hundred yards from the Mayan Pyramids

Are you really that deluded or does your family own stock in walmart?

By candide

December 9, 2005 11:24 AM | Link to this

Merry Christmas? Happy Hanukah?

We fight about these silly things. Actually there was no Christmas. Jesus was born more likely in Nazareth than in Bethlehem and his birth was rather ordinary, without wisemen, angels, alleluiahs and all the rest.

Hanukah allegedly celebrates the victory of the Jews over the Hellistic Syrians who wanted to end the worship of Yahweh. Actually the Jews were divided between Hellenistic liberals who invited change and reform and pietistic fundamentalists (much like the Christian Right today) who wanted to keep to their old, superstitious and peculiar ways. The victory of the Maccabees was the victory of one Jewish faction over another. And the winning faction then went on to become just as Hellenistic as their defeated enemies. So the who strugggle was meaningless.

Hanukah, Christmas, Saturnalia, have what you want. Buy gifts, drink a lot. It is good for the economy. Wish everyone a merry this and a happy that — don’t let Bill O’Reilly fool you into taking all this nonsense seriously.

By buff

December 9, 2005 11:24 AM | Link to this

Last night on FoxNews w/ Brit Hume they showed highlights of the House floor debate over capital gains taxes.

Predictably, the leftists squealed like a pig stuck under a gate about the evil “rich” catching a break. The class warfare battle continues to rage. But, that is all they they have, divide America into haves and have nots

You cannot find one credible economists who will say that tax cuts harm anyone. We do have a serious over-spending problem.

Leftists want to cut up the pie differently; conservatives just want a bigger pie.

Liberalism is a mental disorder. Why do I say this? Because you can prove a liberal wrong, through research, both quantitative and qualitative, and with reasoning, and they will stubbornly stay the course

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 11:24 AM | Link to this

TrueConservative, obviously you are not a conservative. After reading all of your posts today, it is obvious. Your last post about Wal-Mart would seem to indicate that you would want a socialized busniess atmosphere. People choose on their own where to shop. If they choose Wal-Mart than so be it. That is what a competitive economy is all about.

By Midori

December 9, 2005 11:25 AM | Link to this

your tax dollars at work:

Lawmakers file bills to keep holiday merry http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/1205/09metxmas.html

this is just plain stupid.

By Fire

December 9, 2005 11:26 AM | Link to this

True,so if I have a vision for a business venture I should not pursue it in the name of the person that has already started their venture because MAYBE my idea will be bigger and better and profit me? p.s I do not own Walmart stock….just asking!

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 11:26 AM | Link to this

candide, you are showing your true colors today. a lot of anti-american and anti-religious posts. More than usual. You must be getting into the holiday season. I see you have adopted the left talking point that there are no people, like the ACLU, who want Christmas out of the public eye.

By gadem

December 9, 2005 11:27 AM | Link to this

Andy, I don’t think Eddie Long is someone that you should be quoting. He is prostituting his soul for dollars. I have become very disengaged with these leaders of some of these mega churches that want to stay in the spot light. How did this even become a taboo? If people are so opposed to the holiday greeting, then they need to boycott the commercialization of Christmas all together. Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, not to go in debt to provide gifts to those that I care about. In my line of thinking, which may be wrong, but I believe that if you provide gifts to your friends and family during the year, the Christmas season is to donate your time to helping those less fortunate.

By candide

December 9, 2005 11:27 AM | Link to this

The real heroes are people like me who would benefit from Bushite economic and tax policies but who refuse to do so on the grounds that the common good comes before the individual good. We are the heroes and the patriots — not the selfish Republicans who want to lower taxes for the rich and raise them for the poor.

By Midori

December 9, 2005 11:28 AM | Link to this

Midori/Candide/heavenly, where are you hon? Is your welfare check still missing?

Buff — what is it with you and accusing people of being on welfare? I work for a living, and I damn sure don’t spend the amount of time on this blog that you do.

Again — I think it’s more projection on your part.

Again — I think you are the true welfare recipient. Either that or some other government funded assistance.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 11:29 AM | Link to this

true “conservative”: See here.

Also-

Wal-Mart workers earn a competitive market wage. Cashiers make $8.78 an hour on average vs. $8.06 at other retailers, based on data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics; Wal-Mart stockers make $9.76 vs. $10.14 elsewhere.

Lower prices led to savings of $263 billion by 2004, or $895 a person and $2,329 a household.

Non-competing stores tend to show a rise in sales once Wal-Mart opens.

In Mississippi, furniture sales rose 2.5% the first year of a new nearby Wal-Mart.

Global Insight’s study showed a gain of 137 jobs per county, or 3.7%, within the first three years.

Just the facts, mam.

Merry Christmas!

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 11:33 AM | Link to this

candide/midori/malalchi, you just showed your true socialist leanings by making the statement that the common good comes before the individual good. I thought people would have realized by now that socialism always fails.

By buff

December 9, 2005 11:33 AM | Link to this

Midori, I was just teasing you. I actually enjoy our communication

But, let’s think about your “projection” reasoning: The other day you asked something along the lines if me, RW, and I think, Andy, were “blowing” each other

So, applying your reasoning: You want to give all three of us b-jobs, right?

Again, just your “projection” theory

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 11:34 AM | Link to this

heres some interesting reading for you folks-

Frank Luntz this is the guy who writes all those preety GOP advertizing campaigns- hes like an evil yoda

Clear Skies Initiative? This discusses Bush’s ties to the worst polluters in America

Fiscal Responsibility?I thought the democrats were the ones responsible for the crazy spending?!?

Campaign Contributions This shows what corperations own which politicians Dems AND Repubs

Liberal Media Conspiracy? Andy is going to say that this is all part of a liberal media conspiracy so lets see who really owns the media and compare!!

enjoy! and Merry Christmas! Happy Hannakah! Happy Yule! Happy Kwanza! and Happy New Year!! I love the holidays!

By Midori

December 9, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this

That’s not it, Buff. I expect to be on the receiving end.

By buff

December 9, 2005 11:38 AM | Link to this

Ricky, why didn’t candide/midori/malachi just quote: “from each according to his means, to each according to his needs”

Well, I guess it is irony, but I am off to Wal Mart and Costco

By Geezus

December 9, 2005 11:38 AM | Link to this

Paragraph #9 beginning “THE PRESIDENT…pay close attention the the 1st sentence cAndy!

By candide

December 9, 2005 11:41 AM | Link to this

GOP: to me according to my need; from them according to capitalism.

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 11:44 AM | Link to this

candide, socialism doesn’t work. It has failed everywhere. Capitalism has prospered and has enabled us to become the most powerful nation in the world.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 11:47 AM | Link to this

missuz: Better yet, let’s post the whole paragraph-

THE PRESIDENT: We’ve had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th. What the Vice President said was, is that he has been involved with al Qaeda. And al Zarqawi, al Qaeda operative, was in Baghdad. He’s the guy that ordered the killing of a U.S. diplomat. He’s a man who is still running loose, involved with the poisons network, involved with Ansar al-Islam. There’s no question that Saddam Hussein had al Qaeda ties.

This is exactly what I said. Thanks for the back up, I owe you one.

Merry Christmas!

By hewhoasks

December 9, 2005 11:49 AM | Link to this

If the politicians and the editorial columnists switched jobs …

We’d have much worse editorial cartoons.

And a far a better government.

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 11:51 AM | Link to this

who said socialism? the money for the programs we desperately need for health care, public transportation and other programs in this country is out there and theres no need for insane taxes- heres one easy thing you could do

on the other side of the coin to make huge tax cuts for the rich while the poor get poorer is unconcionable. Capitolism is far from perfect… it may prosper in your neighborhood but not in mine

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 11:51 AM | Link to this

*The real heroes are people like me * - candide.

BigDaddy loves self-aggrandizement! Is there going to be a medal ceremony we can all attend?

By sickoftheneocons

December 9, 2005 11:52 AM | Link to this

Non-competing stores tend to show a rise in sales once Wal-Mart opens

I would expect that with the rise in the number of consumers coming in. Did this article say anything about what happens once the Wal-Mart moves out?

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 11:55 AM | Link to this

by the way folks allowing huge corporations to get bigger and bigger monopolies (look at newscorp) isnt free market capitolism that is called corporateism

anybody got a guess as to what corperatism is uaually called?!?

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 11:57 AM | Link to this

My American Heritage Dictionary defines fascism as ‘a system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership together with belligerent nationalism.’ Sound familiar?

By gadem

December 9, 2005 11:59 AM | Link to this

Andy, that paragraph was a lot of double talk. SH has been involved with Al Qaeda…how so? What was his involvement? Did he have lunch with them, did he meet with them, only to shoo them away? Andy, if you talk to someone that sells drugs, are you by default a drug dealer? Guilty by association I guess….They are spewing BS plain and simple…al Zarqawi was in Baghdad…big F’N deal. If a murderer lives in my neighborhood, am I also a murderer? Andy please stop the BS

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 12:00 PM | Link to this

True, when refering to socialism I was talking to candide, not you. As for legalizing pot, where does it stop? If we legalize pot, why not crack or crystal meth. Or are you for legalization of all drugs?

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:00 PM | Link to this

while communism is the control of buisness by government- fascism is the control of government by buisness

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 12:00 PM | Link to this

“Progressive” argument technique

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 12:02 PM | Link to this

gadem: It’s your link, dude. I just outlined the pertinent information. The truth hurts, don’t it?

Merry Christmas!

By gadem

December 9, 2005 12:03 PM | Link to this

I am assuming that there will now be a Christian Crusade against the British

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 12:04 PM | Link to this

True, do you really think this admin wants a fascist government?

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 12:04 PM | Link to this

TC, it’s actually circular - in either case, the government is in charge of the major industries (means of production). There is very little to no difference between communism and fascism. The characteristics you ascribed in your definition of fascism could all be legitimately applied to Soviet Russia.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 12:08 PM | Link to this

gadem, I wish we would adopt those same notions here.

Ricky, I believe in the legalization of drugs. The War on Drugs has been an expensive failure that has curtailed American liberties, primarily the concept of self-ownership and self-responsibility.

I also believe in legalized prostitution, but that’s more for Andy than anything else. (I’m kidding, Andy… or am I?)

I guess that’s just my libertarian bent coming out…

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:11 PM | Link to this

if you think about it most people who do ‘bath tub drugs’ like meth or Crack do so because theyre more availible

these problems resulted from criminalization of things like Marijuana and mushrooms- people could get the stuff to make meth and the couldnt get weed. the drug war has been completely innefective at stopping drug trafficing and has made it mush easier for kids to get pot than it is for them to get alchohol or cigarettes if you want to get hi and meth speall prison but weed doesnt what would you choose? personally im in favor of decriminalizing ‘natural’ drus and plat derivitives that way we can stomp out things like meth with economics instead of guns and it actually works- not to mention all the tax revinue

perhaps most importantly drug cartels are often linked with terrorist cells- if terrorist are making money off of weed or cocaine it is BECAUSE of criminaization- people are going to smoke weed and do coke… id rather that money go to farmers in the U.S. and help our economy rather than bomb a building

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 12:12 PM | Link to this

Why do people on left insist on believing that the so called “power” of the religious right is so strong. It is a joke. It’s like conservatives claiming Hollywood has a big influence on Democratic governance.

By The dogg

December 9, 2005 12:12 PM | Link to this

Democrat economics is fascist economics, they just don’t realize it. Its understandable because they are so darn busy knowing everything else.

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:12 PM | Link to this

*spells prison

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:14 PM | Link to this

dogg you should read the definition of fascism above

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 12:17 PM | Link to this

Why do people on left insist on believing that the so called “power� of the religious right is so strong

Ricky, it’s all part of the demonization process. In order to defeat a position, argument, person, whathaveyou, you can either engage in intelligent discourse and exchange of fact, or you can demonize. It seems that politics have come more to resemble a street brawl than anything remotely resembling intelligent discussion.

Sing along with me: “Where have all the statesmen gone?”

By gadem

December 9, 2005 12:18 PM | Link to this

TC, dogg’s can not read…

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:19 PM | Link to this

not ‘my’ definition but i agree the 2 systems are incredibly similar but in the United States today corperate control is more of a threat than communism alot of people fling the ‘F’ word and the ‘C’ word and never know what either of them mean

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:22 PM | Link to this

I dont believe in the power of the religeous right… but the right has gained alot of power with the ‘pro- Jesus’ advertizing and having studied the bible for many years I feel I should speak out when people try to use Jesus to sell things he is obviously against- war, death penalty, theocracy etc.

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 12:22 PM | Link to this

True, do really beleive that fascism is a threat? C’mon man. What is your proof, other than the left talking points about how big business is taking over and the rich getting richer, yada yada yada

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 12:27 PM | Link to this

True, who in our government is trying to start a theocracy? Who is trying to use Jesus to start a theocracy? Don’t buy into the hype. The more you post the more it is obvious you are sandbagging with your name too.

By The dogg

December 9, 2005 12:28 PM | Link to this

The link to the definition of fascism I linked to is not working, so people besides you are reading. What do you think they will find?

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:29 PM | Link to this

ricky- I didnt say anything about the rise of the Nazi party… The corporations own most of the politicians on both sides and they get stronger all the time… the administration has relaxed all manner of monopoly restraints- hell thanks to new rulings on imminent domain corporations can take your home and pay you peanuts for it so they can build a strip mall- do you really think that corperatism isnt a threat?

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 12:33 PM | Link to this

Whose fault was imminent domain? It was the Supreme Court judges appointed by Dems in addition to Sandra Day OConner

By The dogg

December 9, 2005 12:35 PM | Link to this

TC, You have to be kidding with the emminent domain comparison. You know that was the liberal wing of the bench, don’t you? It is good for the state, bad for the individual, and that is liberalism.

By The dogg

December 9, 2005 12:39 PM | Link to this

Social Engineering is liberalism. With a few christians doing it as well.

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:43 PM | Link to this

well actually the supreme court has been nominated by both sides and fall on both the left and right…of course now theres even more legislation to protect corperations from to public and less to protect the public from the corperations…and the administration has designated mercury (IE mercury poisoning)’non hazerdous and dissolved sperfund so that new when corperations pour petrochemicals in the water the taxpayers pay to clean it up they have also put polluters in charge of the agencies that are supposed to protect Americans from pollution. The head of the Forest Service is Mark Rey, probably the most rapacious timber industry lobbyist in American history. The head of public lands is Steven Griles, a mining industry lobbyist who believes public lands are unconstitutional. The head of the air division of the EPA was Marianne Horinko, whose former job had been advising corporate polluters on how to evade Superfund. The second in command of EPA was a Monsanto lobbyist. If you look at virtually all of the sub-secretariats and agency heads in the Departments of Agriculture, Energy and Interior and EPA, the same pattern holds. Polluters have been put in charge of the agencies that are supposed to protect Americans from pollution. Course PBS is the only unafiliated network and the only one that talks about any of this… so the corps are trying to wipe that out too

By The dogg

December 9, 2005 12:44 PM | Link to this

The constant regulation, law and government protections are what is making it more and more difficult on the small business owner. Making it harder on them to even get in the ring with the corporations and fight for market share. The corporations eventualy find themselves in dis-economies of scale, where their size destroys their ability to change with the market.

By Geezus

December 9, 2005 12:45 PM | Link to this

THE PRESIDENT: We’ve had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th.

Seems pretty clear.

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:51 PM | Link to this

did i not just say that the corporations own both parties??? as for blaming corperatism solely on liberals…

‘Liberalism is an ideology, or current of political thought, which strives to maximize liberty through individual rights. Liberalism seeks a society characterized by freedom of action for individuals, characterized by limitations on government power, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, and economic freedom.’

thank you Benjamin Franklin

By The dogg

December 9, 2005 12:52 PM | Link to this

TC, so is you rule to hate anyone in the private sector? Anyone who works to make goods production more efficient so that everyone can have them. Not just the Bourgeois.

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:53 PM | Link to this

Dogg- do you really think that allowing WalMart to own everything somehow helps small buisnesses?

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 12:55 PM | Link to this

True, you never answer any ones questions. You just throw out more random information. The immeninent domain was approved 5-4. The five votes for were from Ginsberg, Breyer, Souter, Stevens, and O’Connor. All considered leftists except O’Connor. So your attempt to lump that decision in with the right’s suppossed attempt to impower corporations is patently false. Keep up the good work though. I figured out your name now though. It is a joke obviously.

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:57 PM | Link to this

dogg- I drive 30 miles out of my way so that i can spend more buying my goods from co-ops and small buisnesses instead of megacorps like WalMart thank you thats because huge corps have put all of the small buisnesses out where I live- people have flung some psycho accusations at me but that takes the cake

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 12:57 PM | Link to this

Geezur,

You’ve linked that press conference three times and twice you’ve shown your fondness for the first sentence. Would you mind showing where it has any relevance to anything anyone in the administration or on this board said?

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 12:58 PM | Link to this

True, the quote from Benjamin Franklin is talking about liberal forms of gov’t not the democratic party. Its a joke for you to use quotes from great Americans in such a false pretext. There is no country in the world that allows its citizens as many individual rights as we have in America.

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:58 PM | Link to this

hi RW bye RW

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 01:00 PM | Link to this

Why don’t you answer my questions True? Is it becuase I have shot holes through your lame theories.

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 01:03 PM | Link to this

go through these logs and find one instance where i have preached the glory of the democratic party… youre putting words in mouth that you can argue with them

you havent shot holes in my arguments… you have made up arguments for you to shoot holes in- and i havent answered because im headed to work

By The dogg

December 9, 2005 01:04 PM | Link to this

TC, lunch is ending so I will be dipping. But, I will leave by saying some things for you to come back on.

Your definition transplant is certainly from the correct source, the first to recommend a progressive tax, Ben Frasnklin. But his made sense. Look, I agree with you in several areas the governments powers should be limited. But, Franklin would never have been in favor of using government to steal from individuals so it could prop up un-industrious individuals with no frugality, to use his words. But good try.

Wal mart provides everyday consumables at a very affordable price, but does so with often times inadequate customer service. Yes they are perfect at filling that niche of the economy. Products for the people, don’t be hatin.

I shale toil in the fields with a full belly. adios

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 01:04 PM | Link to this

TC,

Aren’t you being thrashed badly enough already without taunting?

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 01:08 PM | Link to this

thats why im TrueConservative i dont favor dems or repubs as a rule-I just conserve. i would trade any republican president in history to get this one out though- i could just as easily be called TrueLiberal if you truly holld to the philosophies theyre really the same

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 01:11 PM | Link to this

TC, wow you are out there. You are combining the definition of a liberal government as compared to communism or fascism not to a political party. You are doing the same to conservatism. Basing your arguments off of these definitions doesn’t compare to the parties of today.

By WhatABlast

December 9, 2005 01:18 PM | Link to this

Wouldn’t it be nice if all Republicans suddenly woke up? The world would be so much better off.

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 01:19 PM | Link to this

WhatABlast, at least you are amusing

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 01:24 PM | Link to this

i have been talking about fascist and communist tendancies in government. I believe in liberalism and conservativism in this tru form. i dont care about the parties of today…theyre both corrupt i just said that

‘i have never voted for anyone i have always voted against’- Jean-Paul Sartyr

‘there are 2 parties… the winners and the losers…the winners are divided into democrats and republicans’- Kurt Vonnegut

you are arguing with the wind

bye

By WhatABlast

December 9, 2005 01:42 PM | Link to this

Guess I’m just not in the Xmas spirit.. I’ll have to follow my mother’s advice and not write when I’m angry. Happy Holidays, however you may spend them with what ever beliefs you may have or have not.

By crazyhowie

December 9, 2005 02:07 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - North Dakota Rep. Earl Pomeroy is accusing Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean of overstepping his bounds, saying the former presidential candidate should not give up on the war in Iraq.

On Monday, Dean likened the war in Iraq to Vietnam and said, “The idea that the United States is going to win the war in Iraq is just plain wrong.”

“My words to Howard Dean are simple - shut up,” Pomeroy told WDAY Radio in North Dakota on Thursday.

Pomeroy later told the Associated Press that he is tired “of the overblown rhetoric on both sides.”

“We have young men and women with their lives on the line,” he added. “The debate has fallen far short of what they deserve.”

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 02:08 PM | Link to this

Everybody is very quiet today

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 02:11 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

Maybe everyone is busy watching this video

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 02:15 PM | Link to this

“My words to Howard Dean are simple - shut up,� Pomeroy-Democrat, North Dakota, told WDAY Radio on Thursday.

AAAAAAAEEEEEEEYYYYYYYGGGGGGGHHHHHHHRRRRRREEEEE!!!

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 02:18 PM | Link to this

RW: Thank you for that link, I contributed 250 bucks while I was there.

Merry Christmas!

By Harold

December 9, 2005 02:19 PM | Link to this

Maybe if this Democrat woke up, the world would be a better place: “An Arkansas man who was arrested after he jumped the fence onto the White House grounds this week reportedly was after Chelsea Clinton — not anyone from President George W. Bush’s family.

According to a court-ordered report from the D.C. Department of Mental Health, Shawn Cox, 29, thought Clinton still lived at the White House. He thought he was destined to marry her.”

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:22 PM | Link to this

Sure, why not? Everyone should just shut up and listen to Karl Rove and the GOP daily talking points through GOP-approved TV and radio media. (Literacy is being phased out by order of Der Bush.) I mean, what do we need free speech for? GOD FORBID someone should speak the TRUTH! You golldang TRUTHSPEAKERS just hate Amerikkka, that’s all!

Happy now, a—wipes?

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 02:24 PM | Link to this

kimberly, how is anyone’s right to free speech being abridged? I’ve heard this charge repeated ad nauseum, but I’ve never seen any concrete examples to back it up. Please help… Thanks

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 02:26 PM | Link to this

Andy,

These folks could use a donation

Now in Poughkeepsie! Coming soon to Orlando!

and, shouldn’t that say French Files on the banner?

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 02:28 PM | Link to this

RW, have you ever tried listening to Air America?

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 02:28 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

Ann Coulter is not allowed her right to free speech. Is that the kind of example you wanted?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 02:29 PM | Link to this

kimberly: I was just pointing out some internal democratic party strife, some pinkos battling it out among themselves. Why is everything the fault of the Conservatives? Have you ever given us the benefit of the doubt? Would you like to look at some of our brochures? Care to contribute?

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 02:31 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

I listened once when they said Al Franken was going to explain the theft of $850,000. from the Boys and Girls club, but he didn’t so I haven’t been back.

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 02:33 PM | Link to this

Kimberly, and I thought we had become such friends. Nobody is limiting free speech and the GOP doesn’t control the media. Just look at what happened to Ann Coulter at UCONN this week.

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:35 PM | Link to this

I was responding to the comments and sentiments on this board that Howard Dean should SHUT UP. Similar comments have been made about others who speak the truth about this war. If you try to engage these einsteins in a discussion of facts, they invariably resort to, “You don’t support the TROOPS!” or “You’re aiding our enemies!” which is, of course, utter tripe: the last resort of people who only parrot rhetoric and have nothing meaningful in their heads in the first place.

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 02:38 PM | Link to this

Kimberly, I hope Howard Dean keeps talking. In my opinion all he does is help the Republicans. And he is wrong on this one. We are WINNING the war in Iraq.

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:39 PM | Link to this

Ricky, Ann Coulter is a PAID speaker… that is, one who peddles her brand of yammer for money. She was heckled by those who (IMO) think her hate-speak is part of the problem, and offers no solution to any problem beyond how to pay for her botox injections and slick leather suits. She was not run out of the auditorium; on the contrary, stayed and conducted a Q&A. So then, she wasn’t really stifled, was she?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 02:39 PM | Link to this

Is it a FREE SPEECH! issue or are there just not that many pinkos left?

[In New York City,] WLIB’s tiny 1.2 audience share, for all listeners 12 and older, is the same as for Fall 2004. The audience is actually smaller now than when the station first flipped to the liberal talk format from Caribbean programming. And the station ranks a whopping 24th place overall.On Long Island, a distinct radio market, Air America’s WLIB dropped again, to take 31st place overall.

Merry Christmas!

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 02:41 PM | Link to this

But kimberly, that hardly constitutes an abridgment of freedom of speech. Just because you’re free to say whatever you want doesn’t absolve you from criticism. The other side has just as much freedom to respond to a comment that they find reprehensible as Howard Dean or Pelosi or Kerry or you, for that matter.

Now, I agree that saying SHUT UP is not an effective manner of putting forth an argument, but a violation of the First Amendment? No.

I’m afraid this charge that you’ve leveled is just the kind of rhetoric you claim to abhor, but because it emanates from the side with which you most identify, you believe it to be true.

By Jay

December 9, 2005 02:41 PM | Link to this

Dean just doesn’t know when to shut up- that is the problem. If one of his own has tell him to shutup, it’s probably because he is out of line.

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:42 PM | Link to this

Ricky, I guess that all depends on what your definition of “winning” is, doesn’t it? Heh… I suppose if you could afford a new car this year, then you’re “winning the war on poverty” huh? HOOO-ah!

By ohnoyoudidnt

December 9, 2005 02:46 PM | Link to this

Why is Saddam in his underwear and what is that in his hand? What is he singing and dancing to?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 02:46 PM | Link to this

Let’s make sure we’re clear on this.. A fellow democrat told Dean to “shut up.” He saw the damage Dean was doing to the party and spoke out about it. And here I thought all the pinkos were ruined.

Merry Christmas!

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 02:47 PM | Link to this

her hate-speak is part of the problem, and offers no solution to any problem beyond how to pay for her botox injections and slick leather suits - kimberly, is this the kind of “parrotted rhetoric” of which you were speaking. I understand that instead of confronting the jist of and arguemt with which you disagree it is much easier to just demonize and villify. Of course, in so doing, you actually lend credence to those you are demonizing - it’s a de facto claim that you are incapable of winning an argument based on merit.

Come on, you’re better than that, aren’t you?

By Kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:47 PM | Link to this

kimberly

Your hate for America, belief in idiotic conspiracies and general ignorance make you a wonderul protype of liberal America. Kudos to you on your igorant and hatefule rhetoric.

Why don’t you leave Amerikka if you think it sucks?

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:48 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy.. Dude… let me break it down. I was using a subtle form of communication known as sarcasm. No one is directly abridging our right to free speech. Um.. unless you try to go to one of Bush or Cheney’s speeches in an anti-Bush t-shirt. Then you’re thrown out and asked “How did you get a ticket, anyway, you pinko?” Or if you’re a kid and you create anti-Bush artwork for your project; then the secret service comes to your house. Or if you’re staning on a street in your own hometown in Mississippi, trying to get to your flooded house and recover some belongings, and you repeat Dick Cheney’s OWN PUBLIC WORDS back to him… THEN you’ll be put in jail, like Dr. Ben Marble of Gulfport.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 02:50 PM | Link to this

As to the meaning of today’s ml scribbling, I think today’s Charles Krauthammer article provides a powerful and persuasive argument.

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:51 PM | Link to this

Kimberly, thanks for the compliment. Nope. Thanks anyway. I think I’ll stay and exercise my first ammendment rights. But THANKS for thinking of me! You’re such a dear.

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:51 PM | Link to this

I really hate America. I wish I could live in Europe where they know how to create jobs and tolerate minorities.

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:52 PM | Link to this

Like all liberals, I tolerate all beliefs as olong as they are the same as my own.

By buff

December 9, 2005 02:52 PM | Link to this

Ricky, I am pretty sure that O’Connor voted with the conservatives on Kelo v. New London. i.e. eminent domain

Kennedy went along with Breyer, Stevens Ginsberg, and Souter.

I am pretty sure about that

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 02:52 PM | Link to this

Kimberly, she was forced to stop her prepared speech because of people yelling at her and playing loud music. And while I don’t agree with her on much of what she says she has the right to say it. Many people probably think what Loius Farrahkahn says is hate speech, the same with Peace Mom Cindy. They still should be allowed to present their ideas in a public forum. Sheehan will be at UCONN in a couple of weeks actually and I am willing to bet no one shouts her down.

By The dogg

December 9, 2005 02:53 PM | Link to this

Kimberly, Kimberly,those people who opposed ann coulters style of speech and protested at a public event, well they infringed on the freedom of the fans to listen. Is the Fisher King your favorite movey? The war on poverty? you can’t shower the impovershed with pity and expect all of them to come out of it. You are chasing an idealistic dream of socialism and equality of outcome. Rather than equality in opportunity.

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:55 PM | Link to this

Anyone who disgrees with my wacko lefty viewpoints is evil or under the spell of GOP propoganda.

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:56 PM | Link to this

I am unable to accept any responsibilties for failures in my life, so I blame everything on Republicans and Christians. They are the cause of all human suffering.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 02:56 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry, kimberly, I didn’t realize you were being sarcastic. Probably because it takes a talented writer to convey sarcasm in the written word.

See how it’s done?

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:56 PM | Link to this

OOOOOOOO, my evil twin is so much more clever than I am.

BUH bye, whores.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 02:56 PM | Link to this

There is a “Doctor” Ben Marble:

Physician who told Cheney to go Fck Himself Lost his Home in Katrina, Detained, Cuffed by Cheney’s M-16-carrying Goons*

As he stood about 10 feet away from Cheney and his friend and some camera operators from CNN and other media filmed the scene, Marble suddenly yelled, “Go f*** yourself, Mr. Cheney! Go f*** yourself, you a*****!”

“I told them I was probably the person they were looking for, and so they put me in handcuffs and ‘detained’ me for about 20 minutes or so,” Marble wrote. “My right thumb went numb because the cuffs were on so tight, but they were fairly courteous and eventually released me after getting all my contact info. They said I had NOT broken any laws so I was free to go.”

Why, this is awful! They checked him out! Where is the justice!

Merry Christmas!

By ohnoyoudidnt

December 9, 2005 02:57 PM | Link to this

Here is an idea, go in Saddam’s cell, wrap a blanket around his neck, hang him and say he committed suicide.

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 02:58 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

Cindy Sheehan was at UCONN two days before Ann and also appeared as a paid speaker. She was allowed to speak uninterrupted.

If the moonbats really beieve Coulter is spouting “hate Speech”, why not let her and then point out why what she said was wrong?

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 02:59 PM | Link to this

BUH bye, whores - kimberly

Ahh, the tolerance of progressives…

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 02:59 PM | Link to this

Gosh I wish I was as clever as my evil twin. Too bad she is a scums—-ing wh—e, though. Good luck with that rash, Hon. I hear it took Coulter MONTHS to get rid of it!

By KimberlysTwin

December 9, 2005 02:59 PM | Link to this

Hi. My name is Kimberly and in addition to being ignorant and intolerant, I call people names.

Be sure to vote for me for Miss Liberal 2005.

By mike

December 9, 2005 03:02 PM | Link to this

Kimberly seems to be demonstrating what many of us have been saying. Liberals are rude and stupid children who also happen to be hypocrites. Thanks Kimberly

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 03:03 PM | Link to this

Why do people find it necessary to use other people’s name to post? It just shows the education level of some of the posters.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 03:03 PM | Link to this

kimberly, I just realized that someone is posting as you (I thought you were being ironically funny at first).

Whoever is trying to pass themselves off as kimberly, please stop. Even if it is kinda funny, it is very childish. Go with the KimberlysTwin screen name if you feel the absolute need to mock.

PSA over…

By The Dogg

December 9, 2005 03:04 PM | Link to this

Charles the mighty Kraut Hammer is the man.

By kimberly

December 9, 2005 03:05 PM | Link to this

Sorry to be “childish”. I wouldn’t want to give the real Kimberly a bad name but not filling up the board with foul, anti-intellectual garbage.

Got a criticism for her too? Or are you another loberal who has no values, just a side to argue on?

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 03:08 PM | Link to this

Or are you another loberal who has no values, just a side to argue on?

Who are you talking to?

By The Dogg

December 9, 2005 03:08 PM | Link to this

Here’s how to get Saddam’s sissy rat hole arse to sit down. Every time he speaks let collared and chained pigs get one step closer to the pan of slop he should be standing in.

By Jay

December 9, 2005 03:38 PM | Link to this

Saturday, Oct. 30, 2004 9:51 a.m. EDT Bin Laden Adopts Democrat Talking Points In a remarkable geopolitical meeting of minds, the pre-election address of top global terrorist Osama bin Laden shows he has adopted many of the Democratic Party’s talking points.

Transcripts of the address released late Friday reveal such stunning similarities that it’s obvious bin Laden has been following the U.S. presidential race very closely - and he agrees on issue after issue with domestic critics of the Bush administration. • Dem Talking Point No. 1: BUSH STOLE THE 2000 ELECTION In bin Laden’s version, President George H.W. Bush began planning to steal the 2000 election years in advance: “He was bright in putting his sons as governors in states and he didn’t forget to transfer his experience from rulers of our region to Florida to falsify elections to benefit from it in critical times.” • Dem Talking Point No. 2: BUSH MISLED AMERICA In bin Laden’s version, the terror kingpin warns that Bush is covering up the “true reason” for the 9/11 attacks: “Although we are ushering the fourth year after 9/11, Bush is still exercising confusion and misleading you and not telling you the true reason. Therefore, the motivations are still there for what happened to be repeated.” • Dem Talking Point No. 3: BUSH WASTED TIME ON 9/11 BY STAYING WITH CHILDREN READING IN A CLASSROOM Bin Laden distorts the 9/11 timeline to pretend that the Twin Towers weren’t already under attack as Bush listened to children read a book in a Florida elementary school class: “We never knew that the commander in chief of the American armed forces would leave 50,000 of his people in the two towers to face those events by themselves when they were in the most urgent need of their leader. He was more interested in listening to the child’s story about the goat rather than worry about what was happening to the towers. So, we had three times the time necessary to accomplish the events.” • Dem Talking Point No. 4: BUSH IS A FASCIST A favorite of radical Democrats, bin Laden compares the Bush administration to the authoritarian regimes in the Mideast: “What happened was that he was impressed by the monarchies and the military regimes, and he was jealous of them staying in power for tens of years, embezzling the public money without any accountability. And he moved the tyranny and suppression of freedom to his own country, and they called it the Patriot Act, under the disguise of fighting terrorism. And Bush, the father, found it good to install his children as governors and leaders.” • Dem Talking Point No. 5: THE BUSH FAMILY IS TOO CLOSE TO SAUDI ROYALS Bin Laden complains that their relationship spans two generations: “The resemblance started when [former President George H.W.] Bush, the father, visited the area, when some of our own were impressed by America and were hoping that the visits would affect and influence our countries.” • Dem Talking Point No. 6: AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY IS TO BLAME Here bin Laden adopts the position of the Cynthia McKinney wing of the Democratic Party, which blames the alliance between the U.S. and Israel for provoking the 9/11 attacks: “After the injustice was so much and we saw transgressions and the coalition between Americans and the Israelis against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it occurred to my mind that we deal with the towers. And these special events that directly and personally affected me go back to 1982 and what happened when America gave permission for Israel to invade Lebanon. And assistance was given by the American Sixth Fleet.”

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 03:39 PM | Link to this

okay, let’s have a little fun.

Yesterday, we saw a clip of buff showing how he inspired a certain famous clip from Arrested Development.

Today, let’s see RW try to win the heart of kimberly. Wish him luck, everyone!

By candide

December 9, 2005 03:53 PM | Link to this

Send Saddam to Auschwitz. According to the press we are already using Poland for imprisoned terrorists. Hitler used Poland for his concentration and death camps because he despised the Poles. Is this our reason?

By Dubya

December 9, 2005 03:55 PM | Link to this

Hey, little Bushista Jihadists! Democracy and Freedom are in place. Victory is ours! See that progress!

By buff

December 9, 2005 03:59 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy, where do you get this stuff?

Glad to see the GOP fighting back. Of course, Dean and Kerry said their words were taken out of context. What a pack of losers. commenting on their actual words and you are not playing fair.

What is scary is that that leftist fraud had a chance of winning the Presidency

http://www.rnc.org/Default.aspx

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 03:59 PM | Link to this

candide, we are no longer using Poland to house terrorists. ABC said they had been used but were not housing terrorist anymore

By Cherish

December 9, 2005 04:01 PM | Link to this

I don’t know about that kimberly girl….she keeps talking to herself.

Split personality, perhaps?

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 04:06 PM | Link to this

buff, it’s all just part of my wacky insouciance…

Actually, the clips I’ve been linking to are from gorillamask.net’s annual webtard competition. ME LIKEY!

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 04:38 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

Have you seen how many Kimberlys we have here today? It’s going to take more than luck. Maybe the theme song from “Sybil” would work. I’m just going for the babe on the right.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 04:41 PM | Link to this

RW, I don’t know. Judging by the look of you there, beggars can’t be choosers…

By candide

December 9, 2005 04:42 PM | Link to this

Ricky: I am sure that makes the Poles feel great.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 04:44 PM | Link to this

Poles feel great - candide

That’s what she said! (Rimshot)

Sorry, that was just sitting there, I couldn’t resist…

By candide

December 9, 2005 04:44 PM | Link to this

How many Poles does sit take to torture Islamic terrorists?

Five.

One to call Condi to see if it is ok. One to call a Jew to see if he cares. One to call a German for advice. One to call a priest, for absolution. One to call another Pole to see if he knows what torture means.

By candide

December 9, 2005 04:49 PM | Link to this

The press reports that midwesterners are buying special furnaces for burning corn, instead of natural gas whose price is rising rapidly.

Wonderful! These miswesterners who voted for Bush in large numbers are having a bad winter. I don’t feel their pain. They are stupid in any case and in this case they deserve their pain.

A midwesterners is like a southerner, only without some funny story about blacks and the civil war.

By Trent R.

December 9, 2005 04:51 PM | Link to this

*What if this whole crusade’s a charade, And behind it all there’s a price to be paid For the blood which we dine, Just to fight in the name of the holy and the divine?

Just how deep do you believe?*

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 04:52 PM | Link to this

I thought the “Iraqi citizens” were cowering in fear of American soldiers, not helping them?

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Iraqi citizens turned over a high-ranking Al Qaeda member known as “the Butcher” to U.S. forces in Ramadi Friday a military statement said.

Merry Christmas!

By Ricky

December 9, 2005 04:58 PM | Link to this

candide, you prove your ignorance everyday. I really hope you don’t live in America. Calling whole swaths of Americans dumb, that shows class and intelligence. And by the way, the cost of fuel has decreased significantly over the past two months. Consumer confindence rose to over 85% this month and retailers are expecting shoppers to spend 6% more this Christmas season.

By buff

December 9, 2005 04:59 PM | Link to this

candide, why do you blame Bush for the price of natural gas?

By candide

December 9, 2005 05:01 PM | Link to this

Ricky: I am glad you are not managing my million dollar trust fund.

By devil doll

December 9, 2005 05:18 PM | Link to this

hot little devil dog

dr buff, my goodness. i’ve been called a lot of things, but never a dog. a canine of the female variety, once or twice - but never a plain old dog.

sorry not to have chatted more. it’s the end of the semester - so much to do.

i had to laugh when i read your critique of post modernism and post structuralism. here’s my take…when i was a kid i would watch star trek reruns and i thought spock was the smartest person of all time. “the warp coil phase inducers are diamagneticly opposed.” “realign the photons through an isolinear grid construction.”

as i got older, i realized it was all bs. i have the same feeling sometimes in class - just say what you mean.

By Dusty

December 9, 2005 05:22 PM | Link to this

Candide,

I tried not to pay any attention to your self-gratifying psychotic personality. But now you have started “throwing-off” on Southerners. Take a magnolia leaf and stuff it into your racist mouth instead of the usual stimulants. Stick with your savoir faire and leave my grits alone. You aint nuthin’ but a Bolshevik boll weevil, SIR.

By buff

December 9, 2005 05:34 PM | Link to this

devil doll, my error, I am very, very sorry

We have missed you

Yep, post-modernism. When I want to torture someone I hve them read Derrida

I loved those old Start Trek shows too. What creative minds

By devil doll

December 9, 2005 05:37 PM | Link to this

candide, concerning your quip about southerners…

“prejudices are what fools use for reason”

surely you know voltaire.

By buff

December 9, 2005 05:37 PM | Link to this

candide, I ditto Dusty’s remarks to you

Now, seeing as how Gore is an environmental wacko, wanting more regulations on energy companies, what do you think prices would be if he was elected Prez?

Let’s say Kerry hd won last year. What would he have done to make energy more affordable?

By ohnoyoudidnt

December 9, 2005 05:42 PM | Link to this

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. —Voltaire

By devil doll

December 9, 2005 05:43 PM | Link to this

dr buff, no worries, mate. i’m not p****** about being offended at the drop of a hat. if i were, i’d never leave the house.

so what part of ireland is family from? no matter how many times i hear it, “whiskey in the jar” makes me want to sing.

did you hear vangorder is going to ga southern? get the championship banners ready.

By buff

December 9, 2005 05:48 PM | Link to this

There si some disagreement in our family from whence we came in Ireland. I think the Southern part

Vangorder is too good a coach to be in D 1AA. I wish LSU had him as head coach. Miles is considering U. of Colorado, Please let him leave

I get so sick of people looking down on Southerners

By devil doll

December 9, 2005 05:50 PM | Link to this

my god, i got edited!!! you can’t use an adjective whose synonym means thorny? i have a good mind to start my own blog and post site.

By buff

December 9, 2005 05:52 PM | Link to this

Yep, the PC police are alive and well.

By Scooter

December 9, 2005 05:53 PM | Link to this

devil doll is ml.

By devil doll

December 9, 2005 05:56 PM | Link to this

we’re supposed to be from the waterford area. my dad’s family is mostly american indian. must be where i get the “glug, glug” and “punch, punch” from.

y’all were right about the bolt action thing. my father laid down the law - he said it was safety issue.

By devil doll

December 9, 2005 06:02 PM | Link to this

scooter is devil doll, who may or may not be ml. but if you halve andy and combine him with ricky, then you get a dusty. if you divide the new dusty by geezus and add that to kimberly, then you reach candide. subtract candide by phil and divide by the sum of finch’s arguments and you have…

devil doll

By Scooter

December 9, 2005 06:05 PM | Link to this

The new Medicare prescpription plan. Where is my cartoon?

By buff

December 9, 2005 06:10 PM | Link to this

Talk to y’all later. I am going to go watch “team America: World Police” for the third time

By Dusty

December 9, 2005 06:56 PM | Link to this

Now, watch it, devil doll, I am not a half of anybody. Just me and that is more than enough (according to some people). Your father was an American Indian? What tribe? I have worked in many of their hospitals in Arizona. How I love that place. If ever I should leave the south, I would most surely become a “desert rat”. Then I would be TWO halves,but one half always Southern.

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 07:00 PM | Link to this

I get this snarky comment from TC,

By TrueConservative

December 9, 2005 12:58 PM | Link to this

hi RW bye RW

and I’ve had internet service for about 20 minutes since. If you are on Comcast TC should be avoided.

By Objective Observer

December 9, 2005 07:17 PM | Link to this

Checking IN…Checking OUT! Very civil discussions. I was never here.

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 07:20 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I don’t know about the half thing. It looks like it takes Ricky and half of Andy to get you and you aren’t divided in half you are divided by Geezus.

So it looks like it starts with an intellect aspect and in that vein being divided by Geezus is like being divided by “1”.

Then the equation morphs seriously off track adding a moonbat quotient and then by being divided again, this time by a value of “0”.

devil doll, that equation needs work. You’re a lot better than what that would produce.

By buff

December 9, 2005 07:24 PM | Link to this

Did any of you hear Jimmy Carter’s replacement speaking in Montreal. Saying Bush is “flat wrong” about the Kyoto Treaty hurting American economy.

Let’s see, reducing our green house emissions by 29% would not hurt production of goods, cost companies money, or hurt us competing with other countries who DO NOT have to abide by the idiot rules.

Al Gore was the brains behind this. It was so bad that the US Senate rejected it before is was even presented 95-0 and told the rapist they would destroy it if he sent it to the Hill. Billy never sent it up there

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 07:34 PM | Link to this

buff,

“There’s no longer any serious doubt that climate change is real, accelerating and caused by human activities,” Clinton told hundreds of delegates, environmentalists and others.

How do you like that blanket statement? It’s true that there is little doubt that there is a current warming trend, but rate of acceleration has plenty of dissent and this being caused exclusively by man has considerable serious doubt.

By Geezus

December 9, 2005 07:46 PM | Link to this

You know, if Mike would’ve drawn some Bush propaganda posters on the walls (and maybe one of RW … sorry, I had to do that….)behind Sadam, the entire toon would be how I envision cAndy as he is posting his Republicrat diatribe.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 07:48 PM | Link to this

He must have had a room full of pinko chicks that he was trying to impress. It was a good days work for Bubba, he got some digs on Bush, ditched Hillary in the States and now he’s rumpusing around with some Canadian lib women. Not bad for some hick from R kansas.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 07:50 PM | Link to this

Would anybody like to clue me in on what missuz just said?

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 07:50 PM | Link to this

Geezur,

How about The History of Propaganda, written by an RW

By Geezus

December 9, 2005 07:52 PM | Link to this

Man, and for a minute I thought that was you!

Oh yeah cAndy, my comment was if reference to the toon….you know, the reason this blog is here…

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 07:58 PM | Link to this

my comment was if reference to the toon- I still have no idea. Is he being nice or mean?

Has anyone checked that ditch in Texas lately to see if Cindy is alright? It’s going to be cold tonite. I now the pinkos don’t care about her anymore, I was wondering if there my be a Con that lives near there?

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 07:59 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Cindy is on her Euro tour. Want pictures?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 08:04 PM | Link to this

RW: I’ll pass. I just ate. I can only carry the goodwill so far.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 08:10 PM | Link to this

Michelle Malkin verbatim: I have peered into the Democrat’s psychological abyss and offer this unflinching and uncensored portrait of Liberals Gone Wild as a public service—as in intervention, if you will.

You go girl! Nothing better than curling up on a cold night in front of the fireplace with some anti pinko literature.

Merry Christmas!

By buff

December 9, 2005 08:11 PM | Link to this

RW

After the Wall fell the leftists gradually began to take over the environmental movement; it is now an anti- US and capitalist movement

I have a friend who is a tree hugger. A nice guy, but a bit wacko on the issues. He says that the socialist agenda is now in charge and radical as h-ell

What is it with former Dem Presidents? That old appeaser Carter, and now Bubba clinton

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 08:13 PM | Link to this

Ok not too many pictures, but a couple of notes:

“I don’t blame the people who killed Casey but the people who brought us into this, who lied and deceived the world,” she says. “But the anti-war movement is growing at all levels. Congress is starting to talk about bringing the troops home and you never saw any of that before.”

The non-stop campaigning has taken its toll, she says, and Cindy feels in need of a good massage: “I really feel I’m carrying the whole world on my shoulders,” she says.

and two pictures one old one new

By devil doll

December 9, 2005 08:13 PM | Link to this

dusty, sorry about the math equation. that scooter comment just kinda got under my skin. i’m just a little stressed.

for everybody else, i really had every serious intention of participating in the debate on the site. but after work and school, i just need time to laugh.

we’re watching my favorite movie tonight - “the man who shot liberty valance.” lookie at the new waitress, boys.

if we don’t talk again, y’all have a merry Christmas.

btw, rw, i look for long hair, a perky nose, spunk, and a nice fill to some jeans. maybe just a “loveable loser, a no account boozer, and a honky tonk hero, like me.”

take care.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 08:19 PM | Link to this

The haughty, French-looking Massachusetts Democrat, who by the way thinks American servicemen are war criminals and terrorists. But he supports the troops! - James Taranto

If I were a gay yankee, I think I would be stalking James Taranto - he makes my heart flutter…

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 08:21 PM | Link to this

And he served in Vietnam!

(flutter, flutter, flutter)

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 08:26 PM | Link to this

“Bush Could Run Away With Heisman”—headline, Daily News (New York), Dec. 9

Democratize the Middle-East, cut taxes, enrage “progressives” everywhere, and now this: what can’t he do?

By buff

December 9, 2005 08:38 PM | Link to this

Hey, Devil Doll, what are you wearing.

Juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssst kidding

Good movie you are watching. I am watching “Barbershop”

By Midori

December 9, 2005 08:49 PM | Link to this

So far, ”the war on terror” has left us with:

• An unarmed man killed at Miami International Airport because he suffered a bipolar attack in front of air marshals.

• An unarmed Brazilian man killed in a London underground rail car because he looked Middle Eastern.

• A University of South Florida professor imprisoned for 33 months even though there was no evidence linking him to a terrorist organization.

• An American citizen incarcerated for three years as an ”enemy combatant” before he was finally indicted on charges that had nothing to do with the original allegations.

• More than 2,100 American soldiers killed — and thousands more injured and traumatized — while fighting in a country that posed no threat to us.

Meanwhile, Osama bin Laden, the man whom President Bush vowed in 2001 to track down ”dead or alive,” is probably still strolling the Afghan mountainside with his walking stick.

By Dusty

December 9, 2005 08:50 PM | Link to this

RW, you will have to handle the equitable equation for me because I have HALF-a-mind to…oops..wrong thing to say. Well, anyway, kinda fun math. But on to Kyoto and other puzzlements. If China and India are not even asked to join, what is the point of America signing off on this? What is the Democratic solution for climate change? That we should all STOP breathing? Crazy.

Which reminds me of poor old Cindy. Disgracing her son for sorry anti-American celebrity-hood. That’s sad.

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 08:58 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Since my connection keeps going down I’ll have plenty of time for math, but no way to report back.

Would someone like to make Midori a list of things that happen when we don’t fight terror?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 9, 2005 08:59 PM | Link to this

Midori: Don’t forget the 3000 office workers in New York and Washington, D.C. They didn’t do anything wrong either…

Merry Christmas!

By rushncap

December 9, 2005 09:04 PM | Link to this

Dusty — you’re about as scary as a bag o fertilizer, and not nearly as pleasant smelling. But, hey, at least you lie better than the aforementioned bag. That’s about all you can do better, however.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 09:05 PM | Link to this

RW, I would, but it’s Friday night, and I’ve got better things to attend to. What I’ll do instead is provide an article that asks the question: what if we had left Saddam in power?

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 09:08 PM | Link to this

Big Daddy,

It’s not like Midori would read it anyway. I see rushncap has joined in, what did DU go down?

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 09:10 PM | Link to this

RW, DU must have gone down - the collective rage at the new GOP white flag ad must have caused their heads to explode…

By Dusty

December 9, 2005 09:11 PM | Link to this

RW, I think Andy has answered Midori quite well. There is no logical list that Midori would not twist into anti-American sentiments. In my line of work, it is called “pathological”.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 09:16 PM | Link to this

Dusty how do you type with no arms and no legs?

rushncap, I can’t decide if you’re a bore or a boor. I know you’re not a boar, so which is it?

By Dusty

December 9, 2005 09:16 PM | Link to this

It does look like rushncap has joined us. What a sweetheart! They must have let him out for his nightly run.

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 09:34 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

True, I’m sure our imperialist goals have made us ransack the world with our military industrial complex in our never ending thirst for oil and conquest made us targets, or some such lunacy.

By rushncap

December 9, 2005 09:50 PM | Link to this

Is that all you got, Dusty and and BigDaddy? Childish insults? That’s all your heads are capable of? Pathetic. So very very pathetic. And so very very expected…

By Dusty

December 9, 2005 09:56 PM | Link to this

RW, would you clarify that last statement a bit? Maybe I missed something or maybe I need some sleep?

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 10:04 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

It makes my head spin bad enough to talk moonbat without trying to make sense of it.

It;s kind of like someone who enters a conversation with:

Dusty — you’re about as scary as a bag o fertilizer, and not nearly as pleasant smelling.

berating people about childish insults.

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 10:16 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

My crazed response also goes back to your 9:11 post. Strange post time considering the subject matter.

By buff

December 9, 2005 10:19 PM | Link to this

Andy, BigDaddy, Dusty, RW:

I have a suggestion, let’s ignore candide/heavenly/malachi/midori because he/she/it is a blogging coward

He/she/it will not respond to a serious question, nor will he/she/it engage in serious dialogue

I can spot he/she/it’s writing style the instant it comes on

I am just going to start ignoring he/she/it’s posts

Well, g ‘nite. I have to go to Hartsfield/not Jackson Airport to pick up my brother in law; I hate airports

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 10:21 PM | Link to this

rushncap, settle down - where’s your sense of humor? Relax, have a drink, it’s Friday night and it’s the Christmas season. And for the record, I have yet to toss a childish insult your way, not to say that I’m above doing that.

I prefer much more highbrow work, such as this:

rushncap visited Santa early last year and asked for a Kerry victory. Obviously, he was distraught when Santa let forth a hearty HO! HO! HO!

By Dusty

December 9, 2005 10:21 PM | Link to this

RW, don’t give a thought to some strange little people that occasionally show up on these blogs. Not to worry!

There’s a new cartoon !! Lucko has even messed up a Christmas tree scene. Figures. With that, I must say good night. Have a good one. Keep us posted and “up to snuff”.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 10:24 PM | Link to this

never ending thirst for oil - RW

RW, I am thirsty. What mixes well with oil? I think I’ll try bourbon, then work my way through the alphabet. By the time I reach Vodka, I should be nearly coherent…

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 10:32 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

Sip the bourbon and use the oil (extra virgin olive) in a marinade on a porterhouse.

Before dinner pour an ice cold shot glass of nearly frozen vodka. Look to a rushncap post and say “Nostrovia”, down the vodka and get back to the steak.

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 10:36 PM | Link to this

buff,

Sorry, there is no good reason to let them leave their garbage unchallenged. You know they won’t debate honestly so leave your response for the benefit of the lurkers.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 10:38 PM | Link to this

Okay - so hammer the bourbon (check), grease myself up with olive oil (check), dump vodka in my gut while I check out Pravda (check). All that’s left on my list is to streak North Highland! Tonight I’m streaking while doing the Dean Scream!

By rushncap

December 9, 2005 10:40 PM | Link to this

RW, ever get tired of being wrong? I did not enter the conversation with that post, it was a continuation of our thread. Of course you don’t care (after all, insulting me is SO much more fun), but I’m just stating it for the record.

BigDaddy, you’re about as funny as Carrot Top.

And it’s “na zdorovye”, not “Nostrovia”.

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 10:40 PM | Link to this

BigD,

Well, close enough. Practice though

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 10:42 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Still sounds the same argue with them

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 10:46 PM | Link to this

Typical BigDaddy/rushncap exchange:

BigDaddy: clever remark

rushncap: “I know you are, but what am I?”

BigDaddy: witty rejoinder

rushncap: “You’re so not funny, I’m not going to laugh! Poopyhead!”

BigDaddy: knee-slapper

rushncap: (hands over ears) I’M NOT LISTENING TO YOU! YYYYYAAAAEEEERRRGGGHHHH!

BigDaddy: (shoulder shrug, rolling eyes) “That’s our rushncap!”

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 10:54 PM | Link to this

rushncap, now even you have to admit that’s funny. But look, I’m not above self-deprecation. Yesterday, I showed everyone how BigDaddy rolls at Best Buy

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 11:03 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

I think rushncap is pouting because I chose to quote him at the start of this segment of the thread, instead of going back to his first word “mama”, but I should probably translate that to Russian so “mama”.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 11:06 PM | Link to this

RW, I’m worried about rushncap. I think he’s a bit high-strung and has a bit of a temper to boot. He might have become so frustrated that he resorted to this

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 11:14 PM | Link to this

BigD,

He’s probably just finding a Ukrainian translation for “mama” so he can ask me if I’m tired of being wrong again.

Do all your links have ‘hot, horny, women’ on the side?

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 11:19 PM | Link to this

on the side, on the top, on the bottom… Sure, wherever you want them. Even my WSJ links mysteriously develop links to women of looser morals. God bless them (I say to myself, wistfully).

BigDaddy, you’re about as funny as Carrot Top - rushncap

Well, if I’m only as funny as him, I only have one way to go!

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 11:25 PM | Link to this

BD, (I’m getting lazy here tell me when a truncated nic begins to change the way you view the connotation of what it looks like on the screen)

That was much easier than ig addy!

I thought that link was fairly clean until I scrolled down to Eva Longhoria getting a pole.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 11:27 PM | Link to this

RW, she’s so skinny, she needs to eat something…

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 11:30 PM | Link to this

RW, when were you in California?

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 11:41 PM | Link to this

haiku entitled: Ode to rushncap

rushncap raving, “You are childish and yucky, Fertilizer bag!”

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 11:41 PM | Link to this

It all began here then I got fat and started singing, to get in shape I took up skating. DON’T JUDGE ME!

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 11:43 PM | Link to this

oops, I forgot, you have to space out the haikus. Let’s try that again, shall we?

Ode to rushncap

by BigDaddy

rushncap raving,

“You are childish and yucky.”

“Fertilizer bag!”

By rushncap

December 9, 2005 11:45 PM | Link to this

Well, hey, as long as you think you’re hilarious, BigDaddy, that’s all that really matters. I mean, if someone’s got to have a high opinion of you, might as well be yourself. Congratulations. You’re the poster child for modern America: self-esteem far overleaping actual worth.

By the way, are you spending ALL of your Friday night looking for retarded videos on the web, or is this just your pre-party?

Oh, and go ahead and worry about me. Whatever takes your mind off of your own life. Consider this my community service — providing you with a distraction from yourself.

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 11:46 PM | Link to this

Do all your links have ‘hot, horny, women’ on the side? - RW

So! I like women. DON’T YOU JUDGE ME! (tip o the cap to Earl)

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 11:51 PM | Link to this

rushncap, let me guess - repartee wouldn’t be one of your strong suits, would it?

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2005 11:52 PM | Link to this

BigD,

Unfortunately the hat tip goes to her

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 11:53 PM | Link to this

YIKES!

By BigDaddy

December 9, 2005 11:56 PM | Link to this

You’re the poster child for modern America: self-esteem far overleaping actual worth - rushncap

DON’T YOU JUDGE ME! (Tip o the cap)

By rushncap

December 9, 2005 11:57 PM | Link to this

LilPoppy, I give as good as I get. You think I’m gonna waste my “a” material on a little punk like you?

I see your famed “maturity” has disappeared faster than Shrubby’s war justifications. Got a touch lonely on that pedestal up there?

By BigDaddy

December 10, 2005 12:01 AM | Link to this

rushncap, what are you even talking about? I’m really afraid you’re coming unhinged. Now you’ve resorted to lame plays on my screen name? I should hope that’s not your “A” material.

Who ever proclaimed my “maturity” anyway? I never did. Je suis insouciant!

By rushncap

December 10, 2005 12:06 AM | Link to this

You bore me. I’m done with this. Salut, mes amis, mais je vais partir maintenent.

By BigDaddy

December 10, 2005 12:10 AM | Link to this

Then I shall proclaim victory over you, and righteously so! Adieu, petit puce, et j’espere les mieux reves a toi! Reves a moi! Reves a moi!

By RW-(the original)

December 10, 2005 12:11 AM | Link to this

All right boys we don’t want no trouble in here, not in any language.

/Tombstone

By BigDaddy

December 10, 2005 12:15 AM | Link to this

nice get, RW. I bet rushncap thought he was the only multilinguist lurking around these parts. Good thing ol Doc BigDaddy’s around to straighten these things out…

By BigDaddy

December 10, 2005 12:19 AM | Link to this

RW, actually, looking at rushncap’s sentence structure for his French farewell’s, it occurs to me that he doesn’t speak French at all! I can’t believe he would misrepresent himself like that! Shameful.

For the record, someone who actually spoke French would say it much more succinctly, such as, “Je pars tout de suite.”

By RW-(the original)

December 10, 2005 12:20 AM | Link to this

BigD,

Multi, Cunni, who’s counting?

By BigDaddy

December 10, 2005 12:22 AM | Link to this

you’re right, as long as your a good, strong, cunning linguist, it doesn’t matter how many you speak - it’s the quality of your efforts that produce the most appreciation…

By RW-(the original)

December 10, 2005 12:24 AM | Link to this

…and for all others there is Web-Fu!

By BigDaddy

December 10, 2005 12:26 AM | Link to this

I must proclaim ignorance on that. Pray tell, what is this “Web-Fu” of which you speak?

By RW-(the original)

December 10, 2005 12:32 AM | Link to this

Use the force (google) BigDaddy, let the force (translations,com) be with you BigDaddy, don’t be afraid of the (image search) forbidden knowledge BigDaddy.

By BigDaddy

December 10, 2005 12:37 AM | Link to this

I shall go on this quest. Yoda, you are wise in the ways of the force. Teach me! Teach me more!

By RW-(the original)

December 10, 2005 12:42 AM | Link to this

Who the h-ell is yoda? When you return from North Highland the new thread will await.