Atlanta Opinion

By RW-(the original)

December 6, 2005 09:32 PM | Link to this

Didn’t that profile of ml say he used to work that New Orleans paper?

No wonder we can’t trust the headline.

By getalife

December 6, 2005 09:40 PM | Link to this

New Orleans Times-Picayune. I liked the part on corruption. Good interview Mike.

By RW-(the original)

December 6, 2005 09:53 PM | Link to this

Even the hardiest of moonbats are running from newspapers

By buff

December 6, 2005 09:55 PM | Link to this

RW, my psych friends profile of Lameovich is at the end of this post

Wow, what about the responsibility of the DEMOCRATIC mayor of NO? the DEMOCRATIC governor of La? the DEMOCRATIC senator from La?

Lameovich has sunk to a new low. I think he is obsessed with Bush

As to my psych friend’s assessment of ‘Toon Punk’, she says that I gave her too little data to come to a definitive assessment. However, she did say the obsession with Bush/Cheney, male nudity, bondage and sado-masochism was “interesting”

She is NOT Freudian, but knows the philosophy and said that a Freudian would have a mental diagnosis that would describe ‘Toon Punk’ (my label, not hers) as

Sexually abused as a child, probably into late teen years

Feelings of inferiority caused by lack of manliness (she looked up his pix and profile) that cause him to lash out at masculine stimuli

A deep-seated hatred of strong people, whether they be aggressive or not

Feelings of self-loathing, if not hatred, because he did not stand up for himself while being abused

A “possible” hatred of all men (because that is who sodomized him)

Based upon the crudity of much of his drawings a desire to be a little boy again. She noted some of his work was more mature and aesthetically pleasing than some of is scribblings.

I know nothing of this psycho-babble, and again, she said she does NOT buy Freudian philosophy

By getalife

December 6, 2005 10:01 PM | Link to this

Wow, now I see what Tom Cruise was talking about.

By RW-(the original)

December 6, 2005 10:07 PM | Link to this

buff,

As a blog based psychologist I would agree with 2 and 3 and parts of 4 and 5.

On 4 I think he probably didn’t stand up for himself, but in a playground bullying situation.

On 5 I think he resents men that will stand up for something, because it brings back memories of a time when someone else stepped in and did what he was afraid to do.

I throw 1 out completely, and 6 sort of applies to most artists.

See what she thinks about my changes.

(blog based=phony) BTW

By Semper Fi

December 6, 2005 10:38 PM | Link to this

Buff: I couldn’t have said it better. ML’s “Party of Inclusion” would be better labeled the “Party of Exclusion”, in that they always exclude themselves from all personal responsibility.

By Phil

December 6, 2005 10:41 PM | Link to this

Lights out! RW, Little Andy, Buff, the rest of you inferior right-wing gutless goose-stepping goons of hatred and conformity: time again to put on your ball caps, your NBA skirts, stick your truck keys in a favorite bodily cavity, and then into your filthy beds. Democracy, freedom, and victory are on the march!! We’re winning that huge battle once again! Brilliant. What’s another 100 Iraq cops done in today?? We’re on the great pace to vistory. Sleep well, you members of “the rancid masses!”

By finch

December 6, 2005 10:42 PM | Link to this

The paranoid fears run deep here. Mike’s New Orleans cartoon doesn’t even mention Bush, or the federal government, or Congress, or Republicans….

And already his sketch is being blasted for it’s alleged virulent anti-Bush stand.

Now, we all know that the federal government had no responsibility for the post-disaster disaster that passed for relief efforts after Katrina. Why, the chain of command is right there on the Department of Homeland Security web page:

“In the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency, the Department of Homeland Security will assume primary responsibility for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation.”

I couldn’t make this up!

We don’t care. We don’t have to care. We’re the BushBots. Leave your campaign contributions, requests for favors, and bribe offers at the door.

By Scott

December 6, 2005 10:47 PM | Link to this

“Semper fi” wouldn’t know the meaning of the words. Another never-served pretend hero on this site. It’s loaded with em.

By RW-(the original)

December 6, 2005 10:51 PM | Link to this

finch,

There is a quote from “W” on the newspaper. Now the other day you guys were adamant that “W” meant President Bush.

Please enlighten us as to the identity of this “W”.

By Semper Fi

December 6, 2005 10:55 PM | Link to this

What’s this with the Phil guy?? He’s just a nut that falls out of the sky every now and then. He just says the same hateful stuff. And then here comes another nut called Scott, telling me I didn’t serve. If I didn’t I would have a hard time explaining where I was at for almost 2 years to my wife of 3 mmonths, at the time, and now 35 years. Damn, if there was a way to make bets, I could be depoisting some of Scott’s money into my account.

By finch

December 6, 2005 11:02 PM | Link to this

Uh, I thought it was Murtha?? You are right, RW… got me there!

By RW-(the original)

December 6, 2005 11:03 PM | Link to this

Semper Fi,

The only good thing about “Phil” is it usually goes away fast.

Doesn’t look like it could converse anyway.

By Semper Fi

December 6, 2005 11:07 PM | Link to this

Scott/Phil, I will say, in an effort to be totally honest and not meaning to mislead anyone, that I was not in the Marines but was in the Army. I use SEMPER FI, because I do know what it means and I love the meaning. I just showed up in the ARMY after the Jarheads reseved the phrase, otherwise, I would have reserved it for us.

By buff

December 6, 2005 11:16 PM | Link to this

Phil is Candide/Midori/heavenly, when he/she/it is low on meds. Schizophrenia is a horrible disease/affliction, from what I have read. I do hope. he/she/it is being treated, g’ nite all

By buff

December 6, 2005 11:18 PM | Link to this

finch, Lameovich is quoting Bush; it is a direct attack on the Prez

By finch

December 6, 2005 11:34 PM | Link to this

So far, no comment on the DHS web page declaration that it, as part of Bush’s federal government has the primary responsibility for relief in the event of natural disasters. Not Nagin and New Orleans. Not Blanco and Louisiana. Bush and DHS, aka the federal government.

And as long as we’re talking about misplaced responsibility, which leading politician recently said that he did not think the US could win the war against terror??

First hint: It’s not Dean. Second hint: His father was also President

It’s a Strategy for Victory that’s very open ended!

Merry Kwannsmas!

By finch

December 6, 2005 11:41 PM | Link to this

President Bush could give New Orleans a Christmas present in the form of a streamlined disaster relief plan.

Oops, not a Christmas plan. My bad.

Seems that word doesn’t exist. At least you can’t find it on this year’s White House Chri… I mean, Holiday card!

Will this rampaging campaign against Christmas never end?

Happy Holidays!

By RW-(the original)

December 6, 2005 11:49 PM | Link to this

finch,

Just a thought, but wouldn’t relief infer something after the fact?

By john

December 7, 2005 02:00 AM | Link to this

i feel the louisiana should be given free housing till they find work and can take care of themselves. however long it takes we need to give them free housing. no set time limit to vacate ,they have been through enough with katrina.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 06:10 AM | Link to this

It’s been, what, 2 months since the hurricanes struck, and the pinkos, having no idea of what it takes to rebuild, are lending their normal assistance; whining like babies. What’s the matter Mikey, wouldn’t they let you get a $2000 credit card?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 06:31 AM | Link to this

Anybody looking for a good laugh should read Cynthia Tucker’s round about explanation of how she feels hounded by the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. She laughably attributes the “origins” of the Christian Celebration of the Birth of the Saviour to an ancient pagan ritual. Seriously.

Mother Lib also complains that the cultural fight over the founding traditions of the United States is overblown and a waste of time. This idea given while the AJC has spilt gallons of ink fawning over the impending marriage of Elton John (#12?) to his “bride” David Furnish. No, class, David’s parents didn’t choose a masculine name for their “daughter.” It’s a boy!

Some people have their priorities…

Will Hillary Tucker be found in her cubicle on Christmas Day, upholding her beliefs?

Merry Christmas!

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 07:02 AM | Link to this

Wow, now I see what Tom Cruise was talking about - getalife

getalife, I didn’t get your Tom Cruise reference. But I wanted to share with you Tom Cruise’s finest performance

By Objective Observer

December 7, 2005 07:02 AM | Link to this

Finch: In all fairness, you are right, there was plenty of blame to be shared. The difference is Bush acknowledged shortfalls within the federal system, Nagel & Blanco have yet to acknowledge their failure to respond in the disaster and are still pointing fingers at each other and anybody other than themselves. Embarrassing!!!

By Bill

December 7, 2005 07:07 AM | Link to this

Semper Fi: If you served two years it means that you were conscripted and did not volunteer for service. That’s ok- you did you’re time like me (just two years less of it). Guess you were less “Patriotic” then when you had to do your own fighting. Understandable but hardly heroic (me too-was lucky and assigned all stateside duty). Anybody wants to see my DD214 they’re welcome. I believe the blog posts regarding service time are intended to highlight the frustration that many vets feel when they see our troops commanded by electees who have not walked in a foot soldiers shoes. This is not not just Bush/Cheney. Clinton was a Cheney type hideout (deferments) and Gore (like Bush) seved a token early release safe duty term through the special priviledge afforded by their Senator fathers. Bush Sr was last Pres with any real combat experience. Don’t think posts here are saying that only those who served have a voice in war sentiments. What is being said is that we should elect Commanders of the military who have actually served in the military without reservation in order for them to be credible when ordering out troops into combat. PS: Regarding Psych- “A magician pulls rabbits out of hats; a psychologist pulls habits out of rats.�?- Anonymous

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 07:07 AM | Link to this

finch, nice job completely taking a statement from the President out of context in order to cover for irresponsible comments made by the Screaming Doctor.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 07:12 AM | Link to this

Did anyone see the testimony of some of New Orleans local leaders in front of Congress yesterday? Cynthia McKinney was there making a fool of herself again. All the people were talking about was how everyone is rascist. One of them even equated the hurrican to racial and ethnic cleansing. While I will agree that FEMA performed terribly during the hurricane, they weren’t the only ones. Nagin and Blanco were just as bad if not worse.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 07:21 AM | Link to this

finch, you’re right. Nagin has nothing to be ashamed of - DHS should have commandeered these buses themselves.

Did anyone see the AJC article this past weekend where Nagin came to Atlanta and was booed by NO evacuees?

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 07:22 AM | Link to this

Nagin is a joke.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 07:33 AM | Link to this

And the pinkos still blame him for it-

President George W. Bush made a televised appeal for residents to heed the evacuation orders, warning, “We cannot stress enough the danger this hurricane poses to Gulf Coast communities.”

Merry Christmas!

By finch

December 7, 2005 07:37 AM | Link to this

BigDaddy, how is Bush saying about the war on terror, “we can’t win it”, taking it out of context?

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and talks like a duck.. it’s a duck!

I’d wish you a Merry Christmas, but following the example set by our fine President… Happy Holidays!

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 07:42 AM | Link to this

Finch, the President has never said we couldn’t win the war in Iraq. That was Howard Dean. Bush actually has the spine to withstand some low points in order to obtain the long term goal

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 07:53 AM | Link to this

finch, here’s the difference between what President Bush said and what Dean said:

1) Bush was referring to the War on Terror, Dean specifically to Iraq.

2) Bush stated that there was no way to “win” the War on Terror in the traditional manner (ie, by treaty to end hostilities). This is because we are not at war with a nation-state. There is no Terroristan. With whom is there to sign a treaty? Instead, the War on Terror is a war against a nebulous network of Islamofascists that are not constrained by national boundaries.

This is opposed to Dean who says the war in Iraq is unwinnable and that we should just tuck our tail between our legs and “redeploy” (ie, run and shriek, just like the good Doctor’s example). Of course this goes against Joe Lieberman who says we are doing the right thing in Iraq and that cutting and running would leave 25 million people at the mercy of 10,000 terrorists.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 08:12 AM | Link to this

The debate about the war in Iraq is doing more damage to the Dems than the Reps right now. If the Dems could get a coherent message of unified support they might be able to use it to their advantage in 2006. However, with the party split as it is now with Dean and Pelosi arguing for a quick pullout and saying the war can’t be won, they are playing right into the hands of the Republicans. Instead of attacking the Republicans they are fighting with each other. It is beautiful.

By Bill

December 7, 2005 08:13 AM | Link to this

Of course, the fact that Joe Lieberman is Jewish has nothing to do with his politics? Lieberman will always vote to support Israel and he should because that’s what his religious conscience dictates. I’m sure glad this crap bag didn’t make it to the White House, though. Just another kind of religious zealot for my part.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 08:14 AM | Link to this

I wonder why Osama Bin Ladentorest can’t speak for himself?-

Everything’s fine at the cave, really

Merry Christmas!

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 08:18 AM | Link to this

Got to love to see the Dems turn on one of their own. Bill, why don’t you just go ahead and say what you really want to about Lieberman? Why use thinly vieled language about him being Jewish? Just goes to show what I posted earlier about the Democratic party ripping themselves apart over the war is in fact true

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 08:20 AM | Link to this

Ricky, are you saying that many Democrats are bigots? Wait, no need to say it - they imply it themselves!

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 08:23 AM | Link to this

BigDaddy, I was just responding to Bill you makes the assertion that Lieberman is only supporting the war because he is Jewish, which is a joke.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 08:27 AM | Link to this

I know, I couldn’t believe I was reading that…

By buff

December 7, 2005 08:28 AM | Link to this

OK, Leftists, here is yet another reason we on the RIGHT side of the issues scream left-wing media bias

http://www.mdjonline.com/94/10203432.txt

By Bill

December 7, 2005 08:29 AM | Link to this

Ricky: Said exactly what I meant about Lieberman. If you’re implying that I somehow dilike him due to religious belief you’re wrong. Don’t care about his particular belief set but think he should leave it at the door when he is respresenting constituents. Supposed to be uninfluenced. Just calling attention to the fact that he is not. If you’d like, I can also make the same statement about zealous “Christian” politicians but doubt that you’d want to hear that side, huh? Republicans/Democrats- who cares anymore. Neither have the nations best interests at heart; only that of their political party or religious convictions.

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 08:33 AM | Link to this

I thought this guy was supposed to be the finest, most influential world leader. I’m sure that’s what I read in the AJC

And, it’s even semi on topic. OK, barely on topic.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 08:34 AM | Link to this

Bill, why do you assume he is letting his religious preferences influence him? Do you discount that he trully believes we are winning the war in Iraq? I love how people just assume that if you are religious it runs your decision making process. It might on an individual level, but for public officials and judges, most of them don’t let that happen. I argue that you only make that statement becuase you disagree with him.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 08:37 AM | Link to this

O.K. pinkos, let’s rise and shine! Since we have no college classes today, we are going to swamp the FEMA office and apply for hurricane benefits. Whatever you do, don’t give them your Decatur, Georgia address. You live in Orleans Parrish. If they catch on to your act, just make a big scene claiming RACIAL INJUSTICE, even if you are a spoiled rotten white pinko. If they still refuse then blame Bush. This always works.

Free Tookie!

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 08:44 AM | Link to this

Bill,

You make a direct anti-semitic slam and you personalize it to Joe Lieberman, then you justify it with an esoteric argument about unnamed “Christian” politicians.

Then in your justification where you claim not to care about his religious beliefs, you again accuse him voting his religion over that of his constituency.

The written word does lose nuance and inflection, so maybe you don’t mean what you imply. Would you like to try again?

By Bill

December 7, 2005 08:46 AM | Link to this

Ricky: Unfortunately, most religious people DO allow their beliefs to influence their decision making processes. Look at the right to life/choice debate; prayer in school; the radical rantings of Jerry Falwell, etc. Most religions admonish their parishoners to “go forth and multiply” and “spread the seed”. Church congregations are now very politically active and have been engaging in the endorsement of political candidates for some time (should pay taxes if doing so I think). Unfortunately, this conflicts with a politicians duty for impartial representation of constituents with conflicting beliefs so he/she must choose between obeying their religious duty or their secular ones. I believe that most often they do the latter. Not making any judgement if that’s good or bad- just observing that it is so. Surely, the religious factor of this war (Christians vs Muslims) hasn’t escaped you.

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 08:53 AM | Link to this

Hold on there RW - don’t cash that Repubes/bushBot/paid-to-post-propoganda check yet, you still need to answer Finch’s 11:34 and 7:37 posts. Funny how you skip over the ones that don’t swing your way…

By Semper Fi

December 7, 2005 08:56 AM | Link to this

Bill, never meant to infer I was patriotic. I was 19 and like most that age was too dumb to be patriotic. I was so dumb, I didn’t join to get a good MOS that would probably keep me stateside. I also, didn’t mean to infer I was in anyway a hero, I was leaning toward Canada after friends sstarted coming back in body bags. Pat Tillman and those folks are heros. I am a coward.

By Bill

December 7, 2005 08:59 AM | Link to this

RW- It’s a slam to recognize that Jews and Muslims hate each other????? That a religious person supports the beliefs of their religion???? Just because someone says the word “Jewish” doesn’t imply antisemitism. Again, I don’t care what a persons religion is but it is wrong to allow it to influence political representaion. Read the posts again, bud, and tell me how I have denigrated either the Islamic, Christian, or Jewish religions. Lieberman has stated uncategorically that he will not abandon the state of Israel. Can anyone really believe that his religion is not influencing his opinion. You guys do realize that Lieberman is one of those liberal Democrats who hate everything Republican and the war effort, right?

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 09:01 AM | Link to this

Geezus,

See Ricky 7:42 and BigDaddy 7:53. I don’t think “finch” directed his questions to anyone in particular.

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 09:07 AM | Link to this

.. so You do not have - or want - to answer?

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 09:07 AM | Link to this

Bill,

Of course, the fact that Joe Lieberman is Jewish has nothing to do with his politics? Lieberman will always vote to support Israel and he should because that’s what his religious conscience dictates. I’m sure glad this crap bag didn’t make it to the White House, though. Just another kind of religious zealot for my part

That reads like more than just pointing out that Jews and Muslims hate each other.

I really don’t care what you think about this issue or Lieberman. I only pointed out what it sounded like and asked if you wanted to clarify.

By buff

December 7, 2005 09:07 AM | Link to this

I do not know if I have ever posted this on this site or not

Leftist Ideological Stew 1. one cup of paranoia 2. two cups of hatred 3. one cup of irrational reasoning 4. three pounds of lies 5. four cups of class warfare 6. four cups of jealousy 7. two pounds of socialism 8. one pound of communism 9. three pints of French political influence 10. 1/16 teaspoon of patriotism 11, 1/16 teaspoon of courage Combine all ingredients in a “crock�? pot and simmer for two presidential terms and serve with whine and cheese. Can cause verbal diarrhea in liberals and anal discomfort and migraine headaches for conservatives

By Bill

December 7, 2005 09:11 AM | Link to this

Semper Fi: If you were a coward you would have gone to Canada, not thought about it. You did your time, bud; that’s what counts. There are few heros (you have to be a little nuts to walk into macine gun fire)- better stuff than I am made of too. You’re also right; joining did keep me stateside. At the time, draftees were used for canon fodder; enlistees were given choice duty stations so that they would hopefully reenlist after hostilities. Ironic wasn’t it that President Ford (Rep) pardoned all draft dodgers while I was still serving my term of service. When I got home, all the jobs were taken by these “brave souls”- I worked in a Hess service station for a year at minimum wage so that they could have a Canadian vacation and tan their yellow-bellies.

By A Libertarian

December 7, 2005 09:11 AM | Link to this

Fake Libertarian Alert. It seems we have another Bush apologist disguised as a Libertarian around here. Big Daddy starts off ok but then joins the freaks idolizing Bush. Why not just change the name to BigAndy? Libertarian my a**. Onward Christian soldiers!

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 09:11 AM | Link to this

I agree with Finch’s 10:42PM post….Mike’s cartoon says nothing about Bush, only rhetoric. There does seem to be a bit of paranoia today!

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 09:15 AM | Link to this

Geezus,

See finch’s 11:02 post, even he doesn’t agree with his 10:42 post.

By getalife

December 7, 2005 09:16 AM | Link to this

BigDaddy, I was referring to his views on psychiatry?. Thanks for the link, while I watched that episode (classic)of South Park, I got to check out missthang200244 and won free gas for a year.

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 09:17 AM | Link to this

I guess the paranoia has limited your ability to understand sarcasim (11:02 post)….a sad day indeed.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 09:20 AM | Link to this

A Libertarian, where can I fax you a copy of my party card? Just because I have disagreements with the Libertarian party (and you apparently), don’t try to castigate me as misrepresenting myself. I have more problems with the Republicans than I do Libertarians. And I have even more problems with Democrats than I do the aforementioned two.

Yesterday, I worked Bush over pretty hard for his domestic agenda. I don’t feel compelled to rehash my statements - if you’d like to review, feel free to return to yesterday’s board.

Please tread lightly when you call me out - I’m very sensitive…

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 09:21 AM | Link to this

getalife, congratulations! Dem, Repub, commie pinko, I really just try to help everyone…

By getalife

December 7, 2005 09:22 AM | Link to this

What about our Gulf Coast?

By Semper Fi

December 7, 2005 09:22 AM | Link to this

Does everyone realiize that we have set a new standard for future presidents when it comes to military service. If you’re a democrat, you don’t have to serve at all. If you’re a Republican, you have to have served in war. Stateside doesn’t count. The media will bury you as a coward. Bush did his time in the Guard. He was a fighter pilot. I am thinking you don’t just show up and they give you the keys to a plane. The liberal media stayed with the story for a long time, they they couldn’t find anybody that saw GW, then after it was proven he really served and they couldn’t lie any longer, they found as many as they could to say he was sloppy, disrespectful, drunk, etc. What this means is our future Republican candidate has to have walked on Afghanistan or Iraq soil. Meanwhile, the dems can throw up any idot. They do benefit greatly from the liberal press. Again, I just find it hard to believe, GW’s rating are so high, given the hate from the media.

Merry Christmas

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 09:27 AM | Link to this

Bill, I would disagree that most politicians choice religion over their constituents. I think most of them do what is best for their state or district. I am not saying that all politicians are pure as the driven snow, we all know they aren’t. However, I think the arguement that relgious people defer all decisions to their religious beliefs is fallous. That is the same arguement dems on the judiciary committee are going to make about Alito. It is a cheap political tactic in my opinion

By Semper Fi

December 7, 2005 09:27 AM | Link to this

Bill, you are so right. The draft dodgers should have never been pardoned… They’re probably leading the war protest today..

By Voice of Reason

December 7, 2005 09:31 AM | Link to this

Semper Fi - I don’t think it’s to the extreme that you put it. Democrats are typically war prone, while their republican friends are ready to jump at the chance. The reason your boy gets so much flack is because he ignored and continues to ignore the people who are supposed to advise him on war.. and I’m not talking about the SecDef. I’m talking Joint Chiefs.

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 09:32 AM | Link to this

DECEMBER 7, 1941-USS Arizona Memorial

By Eric

December 7, 2005 09:38 AM | Link to this

I think Miss Buff is describing herself.

By Murf

December 7, 2005 09:43 AM | Link to this

Thanks RW, its a shame so many people have forgotten.

By buff

December 7, 2005 09:44 AM | Link to this

BigDaddy, I like libertarian values, but, we have to realize it is not going to happen. People actually want big government.

How long before health care is socialized?

Please tell me I am wrong

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 09:46 AM | Link to this

Quick question….when did Iraq attack the US….I mean I remember Al Queida which is based in Afganistan attacking US soil on 9/11. But when did Iraq invade the US? The date eludes me…..

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 09:50 AM | Link to this

Geezus would you agree that having an Iraq without Saddam Huessin makes the region a safer place? We all know that Iraq didn’t attack us directly, however, having served two tours over there, I firmly believe our actions will make that part of the world safer and more stabilized.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 09:53 AM | Link to this

buff, it’s definitely not going to happen with that attitude! Are you an AmeriCAN or an AmeriCAN’T? (nods to Johnny Depp)

Actually, I’m very afraid that you might be right. May God help us if (when) healthcare is socialized, because physicians won’t be able to…

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 09:53 AM | Link to this

I think a North Korea without Kim Jong Il would make THAT region a safer place, Cuba without Castro, France without Sirac (sp?)…does that justify declaring all-out war on the world?

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 09:56 AM | Link to this

Ricky, thank you for your service to our country.

Geezus - do we really need to go down this road every day? Rehashing (yawn) this (yawn) over and over (yawn), makes me (yawn) very sleeeeeeafdskloiwegr;n

Huh!? Sorry, I dozed off there on my keyboard for a second…

By buff

December 7, 2005 09:57 AM | Link to this

BigDaddy, right about health care and physicians. I believe that those now in the health field will one day be government employees

The final straw will be when big business begins putting pressure on the pols

By Murf

December 7, 2005 09:57 AM | Link to this

Geezus: Here’s #1 Here’s #2 Here’s #3 all claimed by Al Qaida, and that’s only the last week.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 10:00 AM | Link to this

Geezus, do you really think that we have declared all-out war on the world? What a joke.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 10:03 AM | Link to this

buff, actually big business did apply pressure to the pols during the aborted advent of HillaryCare. Guess which side they were on? Big Business WANTED HillaryCare. Why? Because it would completely absolve them of the most rapidly escalating of all of their benefit costs.

And for the record - if we ever get close to socialized medicine - I’m getting out and selling the business long before I’ll be a government worker…

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 10:05 AM | Link to this

Murf: Your links prove/support nothing. All those refer to things done After the war began.

BigDaddy: If you have a point make it.

Ricky: I made no statement about us invading the world reread my post.

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 10:06 AM | Link to this

Declare War on the world

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 10:10 AM | Link to this

Geezus, you said does that justify us declaring all out war on the world in your 953 post. Are you back pedaling, pulling a John Kerry?

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 10:15 AM | Link to this

to appease you, I will adjust tense (although the tense in the previous post was correct) would that justify declaring war on the world?

You see, I never state “we have declared war on the world”…follow me:

YOU said ” Geezus would you agree that having an Iraq without Saddam Huessin makes the region a safer place? We all know that Iraq didn’t attack us directly, however, having served two tours over there, I firmly believe our actions will make that part of the world safer and more stabilized. “

I said: “I think a North Korea without Kim Jong Il would make THAT region a safer place, Cuba without Castro, France without Sirac (sp?)…does that justify declaring all-out war on the world?”

You see, my response was a Theory response based on the “logic” of your previous post…

I hope that help with the clarification, now could you answer the question (if you choose to of course).

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 10:15 AM | Link to this

Geezus, my point is that the left’s obssession with the reasons we invaded Iraq is a horse that has been beaten into dog food. Frankly the topic has become frighteningly, redundantly dull.

So let me save you the trouble of putting forth your argument - I’ll do it for you: according to the Angry Left, we went to war for oil, for imperial designs on contolling the Mid-East, in order to enrich Bush and Cheney’s buds in the “military-industrial complex”, in order to personally enrich Cheney via Halliburton, because Bush is a liar, as a modern-day crusade to convert the heathen hordes, so that ;ajslkdfg;aglo

Geez! I did it again - passed out cold on my keyboard!

Did I miss any? And what was your point in bringing the topic up again in the first place?

By Murf

December 7, 2005 10:16 AM | Link to this

Geezus, move to Canada with Malachi and Justin

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 10:18 AM | Link to this

Angry Left: we went to war so that Bush could curtail civil liberties at home!

(yawn)

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 10:19 AM | Link to this

Geezus, obviously no sane person would say that we need to invade all those countries. Iraq is located smack in the middle of the most unstable region of the world. Saddam was paying terrorists to blow themselves up in Isreal and bragging about having WMD’s, which he has already used on Iran and his OWN people. Cuba and France pose absouletly no threat to us whatsoever. N Korea does if it continues to develop WMD’s. However there are currently ongoing talks between N Korea and several other countries to get that situation resovled. Saddam had continually thumbed his nose at the UN and had kicked inspectors out of Iraq. In my opinion that is why he posed a more direct threat.

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 10:19 AM | Link to this

Insteresting, so BigDaddy, no where did you mention removing a cruel dictator. Is that truely your take on the Iraq invasion?

By Mrs. Godzilla

December 7, 2005 10:22 AM | Link to this

Thanks Mike, for keeping the topic in front of the population. What’s happening and NOT happening in New Orleans should scare each of us.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 10:23 AM | Link to this

Geezus, BigDaddy was postulating what he views as the left’s arguement, not his.

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 10:23 AM | Link to this

Thank you for your response Ricky.

Murf,??? I don’t even know where to start. Being an extremist doesn’t help anyone.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 10:24 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla, please enlighten us as to what is and is not happening in New Orleans.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 10:25 AM | Link to this

Geezus, no, if you were to read the words that I posted I said, “according to the Angry Left”. The Angry Left makes no acknowledgement of any beneficial gains the Iraq invasion has garnered - because to do so would give credit to (in their eyes) the most reviled man in the history of the planet, GWB.

I was doing a public service by just throwing out all the reasons the Angry Left says that Bush and Cheney advanced to con the US into war to save everyone the trouble of having to see them piecemeal. I have left my personal beliefs at the door as this road is more traveled than GA 400 at 5:00 pm - no need to add to the traffic…

By getalife

December 7, 2005 10:32 AM | Link to this

Ricky, Allow me to answer that question. They are still finding dead bodies. Nobody will take the blame for anything due to lawsuites. People cleaning up are illegal aliens, and the locals want the jobs. Nothing done to the levee system. There is no money and alot of people will not return. Look for them to come to Atlanta.

By Murf

December 7, 2005 10:32 AM | Link to this

Hey Godzilla, N.O. is the dirties city in the nation, we should’ve left it underwater! I vowed six years ago after spending 5 months there I would NEVER return. Never seen such a nasty place.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 10:34 AM | Link to this

getalife, wasn’t it Blanco that decided to stop looking for the bodies? It is a mess down there, no doubt. We really need the local, state, and fed govt to start working together to fix it.

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 10:34 AM | Link to this

BigDaddy: ” * if you were to read the words that I posted I said, “So let me save you the trouble of putting forth your argument - I’ll do it for you”*

You are presenting an arguement FOR me? Although I’m sure that you think that you are well-intensioned, you are not. I am certainly more qualified to make my own arguements than you are to do it for me. So thanks, but no thanks. The only words that you have are the ones for yourself so be careful of the statements you make…in jest or otherwise.

By getalife

December 7, 2005 10:36 AM | Link to this

Murf, I do not think you need to worry about it. The President will speak today on rebuilding Iraq not New Orleans. After Atlanta becomes a dirty city, you can move to Iraq.

By A Libertarian

December 7, 2005 10:38 AM | Link to this

To label war critisism as solely an “angry left” position is dishonest. Libertarians are very vocal in their opposition, so are the alot of independents. Even Bob Barr in todays Ajc was critical of the war effort.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 10:39 AM | Link to this

be careful of the statements you make…in jest or otherwise - Geezus

Geezus, while I quiver and quake at the might of your pen, you never answered my follow up question - what was your point in bringing the topic up again in the first place?

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 10:40 AM | Link to this

I guess that New Orleans is such a mess, with so many dead bodies and poor leadership that if Bush’s number dip again he can justify invading it? (

By getalife

December 7, 2005 10:42 AM | Link to this

Ricky, Like I said, nobody will take blame due to lawsuites. I wonder how much this administration is spending on lawyers? Anyway, lets worry about Iraq and forget about the Gulf Coast Americans.

By Murf

December 7, 2005 10:43 AM | Link to this

Hey getalife, Atlanta isnt looking too bad as of late. Been to Iraq, no plans on going back, sorry. I like it in this country!

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 10:44 AM | Link to this

A Libertarian, I agree that there are many rationale criticisms of the war effort, but critiquing and disparaging are two different things. The arguments I catalogued above are disparaging, not constructive, and are not tenable as rationale positions.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 10:45 AM | Link to this

Geezus, at least you are good for laughs. There has been poor leadership all throughout New Orleans. It was common knowledge that Louisiana has the most corrupt politics in the nation and it was shown during Katrina. Horribly incompetent people(including Michael Brown) were way in over their heads. Not saying that it is just Louisiana’s fault but they bear the same blame as the fed govt.

By getalife

December 7, 2005 10:46 AM | Link to this

Hey Godzilla, N.O. is the dirties city in the nation, we should’ve left it underwater! I vowed six years ago after spending 5 months there I would NEVER return. Never seen such a nasty place.

I like it in this country!

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 10:47 AM | Link to this

wow, my first edited posted. I feel so special. Now I know how cAndy and RW feel…lol

By finch

December 7, 2005 10:49 AM | Link to this

The fundamental BushBot excuse for invading Iraq had nothing to so with oil or Halliburton, although those make great neocon side-dishes. The US invaded Iraq as part of the war on terror. A war Bush says we can’t win.

Instead of crushing a terror beast, the US created one. Ricky, how many suicide bombings were there in Iraq before the invasion? How many are there now?

The team of Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz has become the greatest Islamic terror recruiting tool of the 21st Century. Every time they pray, maniacs like Osama and Zarqawi give thanks to them.

Meanwhile, the BushBots ignore the real threat to world stability, North Korea. Hey, it only has long range ballistic missles, a huge standing army, claims to have nuclear weapons, and has a history of eliminating political foes and other undesirables by the millions. Who cares?

I wouldn’t let BushCo plan my next picnic. The ants would win.

Happy Holidays! (If it’s good enough for President Bush, it’s good enough for me)

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 10:50 AM | Link to this

Whenever such weighty topics get me down, I know I can always find comfort in watching skaters eat ice

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 10:53 AM | Link to this

A war Bush says we can’t win - finch

finch, didn’t we address this earlier? Do I need to type it more slowly so that you can follow along?

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 10:57 AM | Link to this

wouldn’t it be great to get Cynthia Tucker on the O’Reilly Factor?

THAT would be fun (IMO)

By Murf

December 7, 2005 10:58 AM | Link to this

Getalife, are you doing a story on me or something?

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 10:59 AM | Link to this

Geezus, that would be fun. I’ve never heard her actually speak - can she?

By getalife

December 7, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this

Murf, Your words tell the story.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 11:04 AM | Link to this

RE: O’Reilly. What finally cemented his status as a nitwit to me was when he began foaming at the mouth about a mysterious cabal of oil executives that was fixing gas prices nationwide in the wake of rising global demand and the recent hurricane season. I feel dumb that it took me that long to completely dismiss the blowhard…

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 11:08 AM | Link to this

I have to break open my stash of these whenever I read anything by Cynthia TuckerMcKinney or listen/see/read anything from our moral watchguard, the self-sainted harasser O’Reilly.

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 11:10 AM | Link to this

to me, O’Reilly is no different than any of them. A little goes a long way. I take most with a grain of salt, but still keep an eye on what they say.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 11:13 AM | Link to this

Geezus, I try to do that, too - gain insight from viewpoints across the political spectrum. Where I really run into trouble though is with Paul Krugman. I’d rather be in a secret CIA prison somewhere in the Balkans, listening to fingernails on chalkboards than have to peruse his latest shrill shriekings…

By finch

December 7, 2005 11:14 AM | Link to this

BigDaddy, sure I addressed your comment. I noted that Bush said the Iraq war was a war on terror. Then I pointed out that he said we CAN’T win the war on terror. Read that sentence again, very slowly. Let it sink in. Savor it. Swallow.

But I drift off topic. RW, that sneaky W in Mike’s cartoon appears to be justified:

“A $14-billion plan to fix this (New Orleans flooding) problem — widely viewed as technically sound and supported by environmentalists, oil companies and fishermen alike — has been on the table for years and was pushed forward with greater urgency after Katrina hit. But the Bush administration has turned its back on this plan.”

BushCo has nothing but empty promises for New Orleans. Since Bush wants to abandon New Orleans, he should just say so, and deal with the consequences:

” Anyone who doesn’t like this news — farmers who export grain through the port of New Orleans, New Englanders who heat their homes with natural gas from the Gulf of Mexico, cultural enthusiasts who like their gumbo in the French Quarter — should direct their comments straight to the White House.”

Happy Holidays! (by Presidential edict)

By buff

December 7, 2005 11:19 AM | Link to this

O’Reilly is an insufferable gasbag. I used to watch him sometimes, but got so sick of that pompous jerk saying that “I am just for the folks out there.”

What an embarrassment, Michael Moore out debated him on his own show during the Democratic Convention (I think it was the Dem Con)

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 11:21 AM | Link to this

finch, I love how you just ignore the facts. Pres Bush said the war on terror couldn’t be won by conventional means, which is exactly right. You have had this pointed out to several times today, but you continue to ignore it. So do you blame Bush for the whole Katrina aftermath. No blame for any of the local authorities? You call all of us on the right Bushbots, but all you do is repeat the left wing talking points. I would love to see some original thought from you.

By getalife

December 7, 2005 11:22 AM | Link to this

Thank you finch, The President’s capital will be spent in Iraq and not on his own people. We are living in interesting times and am sorry I will not be around to see how it all plays out.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 11:25 AM | Link to this

finch, would you agree that there are several holidays this time of year? Hence the Happy Holidays expression. The problem people have with the whole thing is when companies or organizations refuse to say Merry Christmas. Again you are taking the facts and distorting them for your own personal opinion.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this

Five hundred guests (pinkos) who had paid $250 each mingled over chardonnay and hors d’oeuvres during a cocktail hour while black-clad celebrities posed before flashing cameras. The attendees (pinkos) represented a Who’s Who of liberal groups, including the American Civil Liberties Union and the Alliance for Justice, which also opposes Judge Alito (wingnut).

The ACLU actively opposing Judge Alito’s nomination, eh? Nobody else sees any problem with this? I thought they just sued churches and such on behalf of your average Joe? What free speech or discrimination issues could Alito be raising?

Merry Christmas! (no lawsuits pending, yet.)

By Midori

December 7, 2005 11:38 AM | Link to this

Phil is Candide/Midori/heavenly

Whatever that is.

Phil makes great observations, IMHO.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 11:39 AM | Link to this

This letter is to inform you that I am canceling my subscription to the LA Times

They must be encroaching on Barbra’s part of the Pacific Ocean.

Merry Christmas! (no lawsuits pending, yet.)

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 11:41 AM | Link to this

finch,

The LA Times editorial manages to leave it some critical details.

Since you seem to take it as unvarnished truth I’m sure you can provide a link to where an appropriation for this specific plan was made by the House of Representatives and agreed upon by the Senate, sent to the President who then vetoed it.

If that didn’t happen, maybe you could provide the text of the amendment to the Constitution that was approved by 2/3 of each body of Congress and 3/4 of State Legislatures that changed the appropriations process and gave the President exclusive power.

Maybe, you could just identify this plan and let us track it down.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 11:43 AM | Link to this

finch, Bush said that Iraq is part of the War on Terror - it is currently the front on which the War on Terror is being fought.

Again, at the risk of sounding as redundant as you, I state that the President was saying that it is not a war that can be “won” in a traditional sense of signing a peace treaty. There is no one with whom an agreement to cease hostilities can be signed. It is not possible to go to the table with Osama to negotiate a peace.

I thought you liberal progressives were capable of comprehending nuance…

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 11:45 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON — More good things are happening in Iraq than what is portrayed in the media, President Bush said Wednesday, and the United States will ensure that the security, political and economic elements for the fledgling democracy are in place before American troops will pull out.

Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire! Liar! Liar! Children Are On Fire! Liar! Liar! Liar! Liar! (Did I get it right?)

Merry Christmas! (Cynthia Tucker is irked.)

By sickoftheneocons

December 7, 2005 11:45 AM | Link to this

I think Finch had a good point earlier about Bush’s turnaround on winning the war on terror…

July 14, 2004: “I have a clear vision and a strategy to WIN the war on terror,” (emphasis added)

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 11:46 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Scroll down the Babs link to the Oct/Nov 2004 time frame, the meltdown just before the last election is PRICELESS, ALL CAPS TOO.

By sickoftheneocons

December 7, 2005 11:48 AM | Link to this

And then…

August 31, 2004 - Mr. Bush was asked if the United States could win the war against terrorism, which he has made the focus of his administration and the central thrust of his re-election campaign. “I don’t think you can win it,” Mr. Bush replied.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 11:51 AM | Link to this

Sick, as has been pointed out several times. Bush was saying the war couldn’t be won the conventional way. And he is exactly right. This is not a conventional war. We have to think outside the box on this one.

By sickoftheneocons

December 7, 2005 11:51 AM | Link to this

Notice there are no qualifiers such as in Iraq or by conventional means.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 11:53 AM | Link to this

Sick, man usually you are pretty reasonable. Do you really think Bush thinks we can’t win the war? Have you heard any of his speeches recently? The only people that have said we can’t win are Dean, Murtha, and Pelosi.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 11:58 AM | Link to this

Midori: Phil is a putz. What miniscule arguments he brings to the debate are lame. He probably hasn’t scored any skank since his mother gave birth to him (poor woman.) He’s bitter and demented, that is always a bad combination. You should aim higher.

(Getting caught up.)

Merry Christmas! (ACLU on line 1.)

By Semper Fi

December 7, 2005 12:02 PM | Link to this

Bush has the same war plan on terrorism as Regan did on communisum:

WE WIN THEY LOSE !!!!

This means whaever it takes. Problem is the dems know they weren’t part of the WE and are afraid they will be left out again. So far they have. Other than a few, they are the party of cut and run, negatives and naysayers. Maybe because they have been defeated in so many elections, they have just adopted the defeated attitude.

By GOD

December 7, 2005 12:06 PM | Link to this

HAIL, you Bush Jihadists! I offer unto you a fresh new dawn to exercise your deep dysfunctions. Words “freedom” & “decocracy” are nowhere in the moslem/muslem dictionary. Your troops are making small progress due to fact they are knee-high in flowers thrust at them. Heroes all. Victory is near. Time for Iraq Victory Parades again. Just like GHW Bush. He who bailed out at 1200 feet leaving his crew to die in an inverted sea crash. On Larry King this night. Exciting. Another great hero. I had him headed to Leavenworth for 20 years but oil money interfered. Well, get out there and hate somebody today! My will be done.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 12:12 PM | Link to this

What a joke.

By sickoftheneocons

December 7, 2005 12:13 PM | Link to this

I am reasonable Ricky, I’m just stirring the pot.

By Semper Fi

December 7, 2005 12:13 PM | Link to this

Thank you GOD.

By the way, I think your AntChristianLU membership is over due again. Get that check in the mail.

Merry Chirstmas and my God Bless you all, even you GOD.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 12:15 PM | Link to this

Who says GOD is infallible? The word “decocracy” isn’t in the English dictionary either!

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 12:18 PM | Link to this

Oh, wait, you’re not really God, GOD. I get it now - it’s a clever rhetorical trick! How very droll…

By GOD

December 7, 2005 12:34 PM | Link to this

Fine then, I shall appoint Midori to speak on my behalf.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 12:35 PM | Link to this

We know you are Midori

By sickoftheneocons

December 7, 2005 12:38 PM | Link to this

Why pay lip service to a blithering idiot?

By Semper Fi

December 7, 2005 12:42 PM | Link to this

Sick, you’re right.

The real God is the beginning and the end. This one is just the end.

By Midori

December 7, 2005 12:43 PM | Link to this

Too bad all the NOLA residents were’nt brain dead or blind:

In Terri (Schiavo)’s name, President George Bush interrupted his vacation, Sen. Bill Frist played doctor from the Senate floor, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush launched a flimsy criminal investigation, and Rep. Tom DeLay issued ominous political threats to the judiciary. The religious right had turned Terri into a symbolic beachhead in the battle for a “culture of life,” and the Republican Party had answered the call.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/12/07/schiavo/index_np.html

By Scooter

December 7, 2005 12:43 PM | Link to this

Midori is Moses.

By finch

December 7, 2005 01:02 PM | Link to this

President Bush and Howard Dean are saying exactly the same thing. This war on terror, as it’s being fought now, is unwinnable.

BigDaddy, please don’t put words in the President’s mouth. That’s Scott McClellan’s job. Bush said what he said. The war is unwinnable.

RW, with all respect, it’s not your job to research your posts from legitimate news sources. It’s not my job to research mine. If you question the article I linked to, take it up with the Los Angeles Times.

BushCo outlines great plans for New Orleans, and doesn’t follow through. Just as it also outlines great plans for Iraq, and doesn’t follow through.

Like so many dry drunks, Bush can talk the talk, but can’t walk the walk.

In accordance with White House values, Happy Holidays.

By Scooter

December 7, 2005 01:08 PM | Link to this

This is the enemy

By finch

December 7, 2005 01:16 PM | Link to this

This is a little off topic, but why not?? It’s an item from yesterday’s economic reports that was conveniently ignored by Fox News, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post, the Washington Times, Rush Limbaugh, Drudge, and other members of the pervasive right-wing media:

In October, the Labor Department reports that real hourly compensation, which adjusts wages and benefits for inflation, fell 1.4 percent.

That’s right. Once again, the money number that directly affects the most Americans declined.

No wonder this AJC venter is so… jubilant:

Get ‘em up, get ‘em up, get ‘em up, gone: Fort Mac, Fort Gillem, NAS Atlanta, Georgia-Pacific, Scientific-Atlanta, GM Doraville, Rafael Furcal, Kyle Farnsworth.

Yessiree, it’s the Bush recovery!

IF BushCo is planning your picnic, get another caterer. The ants WILL win.

In compliance with White House Executive Order 122505, Happy Holidays!

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 01:17 PM | Link to this

finch,

This is what I think of your LA Times editorial that makes up phony rebuilding plans

Free Robert Scheer!

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 01:23 PM | Link to this

You 2 sure like Babs … I never would’ve pegged you 2 for that.

By wingnut

December 7, 2005 01:23 PM | Link to this

I hate Barbara Streisand, Michael Moore, Howard Dean, Kerry and John Murtha!

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 01:26 PM | Link to this

Geezus,

In the words of William F. Buckley, I believe she was a lounge singer of some note in the ‘70’s.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 01:28 PM | Link to this

RW: RW, with all respect, it’s not your job to research your posts from legitimate news sources. It’s not my job to research mine. If you question the article I linked to, take it up with the Los Angeles Times.

Is this not an admission that finch is a blooming idiot, unable to think on his own?

Merry Christmas! (I told the ACLU to kiss my)

By sickoftheneocons

December 7, 2005 01:29 PM | Link to this

Don’t forget Prince of Tides, RW. There, you see, now I’m getting verklempt!

By Miss Manners

December 7, 2005 01:33 PM | Link to this

Andy it is very impolite to call other people names.

By getalife

December 7, 2005 01:36 PM | Link to this

Speaking of John Murtha. He is on CNN telling the truth about Iraq.

By gadem

December 7, 2005 01:40 PM | Link to this

Could put a damper on economy

as well as this

seems that the outlook is not as rosey as people would have you believe.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 01:40 PM | Link to this

Miss Manners: Why do pinkos not want to hear the truth. Is your whole entire existence fake? Blooming idiot- A very foolish or stupid person. Where have I gone off base here? Finch said we should just blindly follow what ever the pinko press tells us. I’m just calling it like I see it.

Merry Christmas! (Is this mean too?)

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 01:43 PM | Link to this

getalife,

He’s also on Fox and MSNBC,why didn’t they cover Lieberman this way yesterday?

As for truth, does anyone know where this so called poll that says 80% of Iraqis want us out now?

And how the h-ell does he know that Al Queda is 7% of the population?

By finch

December 7, 2005 01:44 PM | Link to this

cAndy, being called a blooming idiot by you is a compliment.

There’s no doubt about it. Iraq is a stupid deathtrap, the economy is slowly sinking, and New Orleans is being abandoned.

The BushCo picnic is being overrun. The ants are winning.

Per White House Executive Order 12-25-05, Happy Holidays.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 01:45 PM | Link to this

getalife, so Murtha is telling the truth about Iraq. Is Joe Liberman lying about Iraq then?

By Miss Manners

December 7, 2005 01:46 PM | Link to this

Andy: If you talked politics to someone at the Mall, in a doctor’s office, golfing, etc. would you call them names if they did not agree with your point of view?

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 01:48 PM | Link to this

finch, you are hilarious. Keep up the negative Democratic talking points. All they do is keep getting Republicans elected

By getalife

December 7, 2005 01:49 PM | Link to this

RW, He talks to the Pentagon and the military leaders off camera. The poll is probably in Arabic, do you speak Arabic? I don’t but it is probably posted on Al Jazeera. As far as the truth, why would Murtha lie? Why would Bush lie? Somebody is not being honest.

By Bill

December 7, 2005 01:49 PM | Link to this

Hi Again. I see that we’re still kicking yesterday’s healthcare blog around so will chip in. In case anyone missed it, we already have socialized medicine today! When I worked a major southside hospital, fully 1/3 of the patients walking in the door at the ER had no ID and were later found to have given false names/addresses (normal for entire 3 year period I was there). One of the reasons your medical bills are so high is because you have to pay for those who don’t (sounds like Socialism to me). A national ID would go a long way to solving this problem as well as many other law enforcement snafus but libs would howl about Stalinism. Can’t just not treat people because no money/ID (at least that’s not the stuff I’m made of; besides would be violation of anti-dumping law). Result- we have Socialized medicine; we just don’t call it what it is. Consumers don’t set the prices of medical care in a free open market. It is mostly defined by what is allowed by insurance/governmental benefit payment schedules. You as an individual are not even able to see the doctor you wish; you have to see the ‘plan’ doctor, right? When I say that American healthcare should without any question be socialized; I am simply saying that we should call it what it is so that we can then at least better organize it. Probably the highest cost of your care is determined by the interminable paperwork involved. Over 3/4 of my time is spent in documentation so that payment won’t be denied. This is neccessary because there are thousands of different benefit providers, each having their own filing requirements. Under single Socialized system we would not have to pay for the duplicity of administrative costs (each provider has own computer, own stationary, own desks, own employees, etc.). One of the reasons that your medical bill is so high is that you are paying for that uneeded replication of administrative costs. Total free market would not work here, I’m afraid (pay as you go, no benefits at all). Costs would rise to accomodate decrease in patient volume (overhead remains the same and must be paid). Few people can afford current costs without benefits coverage. Since very few people would then use healthcare, the societal costs associated with their health degredation (disability, welfare, loss of individual productive societal input, substance abuse, neccesity for caregivers who are taken out of labor force, etc) would be far in excess of the cost of keeping them well to begin with (at least that’s what the insurance laddies tell me). Medicine, like security and education, is too critical an activity not to be socialized, so it already is!

By finch

December 7, 2005 01:51 PM | Link to this

Dear Miss Manners,

cAndy insists that we blindly follow BushCo and believe whatever it tells us. Why does he not want to hear the truth?

Sincerely, finch.

Dear finch,

cAndy cannot help himself. When he is confused by facts, he resorts to hyperbole and name calling. Have pity on him, for he knows not of what he thinks.

Sincerely, Miss Manners, who as per White House executive order 12-25-05, wishes you a Happy Holiday.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 01:54 PM | Link to this

Miss Manners: Only if they called me a nazi.

Merry Christmas! (I tell this to people at the mall, they don’t die.)

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 01:55 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Are you trying to say that an Arabic poll on Al Jazeera is what the Mothra’s of the world use for facts?

No wonder they can’t keep their story straight.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 01:57 PM | Link to this

Can anybody give me a summary of what Bill said?

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 02:00 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Blah,blah,blah….

Summary complete. (Sorry when I saw that manifesto I scrolled past)

By getalife

December 7, 2005 02:00 PM | Link to this

RW, they are polling the Iraqis. Who converts it to English, I do not know. I know that anything negative about Bush seems to create a response from you. Are you getting paid to post here for Bush?

By Bill

December 7, 2005 02:02 PM | Link to this

Sorry Andy, it’s all that documentaion that I was talking about. Just can’t leave it at work.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 02:02 PM | Link to this

getalife, are you getting paid to post for the DNC. All you do is spew their talking points and claim that Bush lies about everything. keep up the good work

By finch

December 7, 2005 02:03 PM | Link to this

RW, because I’m such a nice guy, here’s a link to a New Orleans Times-Picayune article outlining just what BushCo hasn’t done to repair and guard against flood damage…it’s not a pretty sight.

November 26, 2005

By Bruce Alpert Washington bureau

WASHINGTON — Hurricane Katrina’s devastation has spurred members of Congress to introduce 139 bills. But of the 15 that have made it into law, none provides money for the stronger levees that New Orleans and Louisiana officials say are critical to luring back residents and businesses.

You owe me one.

per White House executive order 12-25-05, Happy Holidays.

By sickoftheneocons

December 7, 2005 02:03 PM | Link to this

Much Ado About Nothing, Making a Mountain Out of a Mole Hill, Full of Sound and Fury Signifying Nothing. Merry Christmas vs. Happy Holidays vs. Happy Hannukah vs. Merry/Happy Kwanzaa vs (fill in your season’s greeting here). What on Earth is the POINT! You know what? Ebenezer Scrooge said it best: “Keep Christmas in your way, Nephew, and let me keep it in mine!”

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 02:04 PM | Link to this

getalife,

LOL..I’ve been told that a comment about anything elicits a response from me. I must be getting paid by a lot of people.

btw, I do know what poll they are quoting, but my RNC handlers won’t let me tell you yet.

What’s that Karl?

OK, I’ll be right back.

By Miss Manners

December 7, 2005 02:05 PM | Link to this

Andy: I don’t remember reading any comments on the blog that called you a Nazi. How long since you have visited the Mall? Do you take a laptop with you. I haven’t missed you from the blog in weeks.

By sickoftheneocons

December 7, 2005 02:06 PM | Link to this

Does the White House kitchen still call french fries “freedom fries”?

By getalife

December 7, 2005 02:06 PM | Link to this

Ricky, No I am not a Democrat. My agenda is finding truth in the rhetoric. What is your agenda? What is RW’s agenda?

By getalife

December 7, 2005 02:08 PM | Link to this

Howard told me to shut up. Of all people…

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 02:10 PM | Link to this

getalife, I post submissions based on the facts that I have uncovered. People like finch, midori, and Andy that post nonsense that is untrue or half-based in fact is what I try to disprove. What I get tired of is people assuming that if you are a conservative you support everything Bush does and are just lying. It gets annoying.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 02:12 PM | Link to this

Miss Manners: It offends your tender sensibilities when I call someone “names” but you can lie about me with impugnity? I haven’t missed you from the blog in weeks. (I was gone all morning, sheez.) You better watch it, missy!

Merry Christmas!

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 02:14 PM | Link to this

The latest opinion dynamics poll has Bush job approval up 6%. Looks like the left might be running out of time or the american voter has listened to what they have to say on Iraq and decided its not the party for them.

By getalife

December 7, 2005 02:16 PM | Link to this

Ricky, Wingnuts are annoying but sometimes entertaining. It is good to know that you do not support everthing Bush does and will respect your opinion.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 02:17 PM | Link to this

Ricky: I have never posted anything that wasn’t true, show me one thing, just one. If you speak my name one more time in one of your holier than thou posts, I will devote my full attention to ruining you. Shut your moronic mouth about me.

Merry Christmas!

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 02:18 PM | Link to this

getalife, do you find people on the left fringe amusing too? It just seems all of your posts are directed at conservatives.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 02:21 PM | Link to this

Andy you are so amusing.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 02:22 PM | Link to this

I’m so glad to be in the presence of such a wizened authority like Ricky, judge and overseer of all things. We should all count our blessings to have our posts thoroughly vetted and checked for accuracy by none other than soothsaying Ricky, sage of the ages, Obee Wan Kanobee of the Luckovich blog. And he offers his decisions for free, without anybody asking him, can it get any better than that?

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 02:22 PM | Link to this

finch,

WASHINGTON — Hurricane Katrina’s devastation has spurred members of Congress to introduce 139 bills. But of the 15 that have made it into law, none provides money for the stronger levees that New Orleans and Louisiana officials say are critical to luring back residents and businesses.

It’s not that Congress hasn’t done anything to date. Two weeks after Katrina struck, Congress appropriated $62 billion for hurricane relief. Last week, Congress approved an increase in borrowing authority for the second time since the hurricane struck, so that claims could continue to be paid under the federal flood insurance program.

And a surprisingly inciteful statement from the school bus commander:

Members of Mayor Ray Nagin’s Bring New Orleans Back Commission worry that the Legislature’s failure to abandon Louisiana’s patronage-laden network of local levee boards will make it harder to convince federal officials that federal flood-protection dollars will be well-spent

And to think I almost skipped your post when it started by saying what a nice guy you are.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 02:26 PM | Link to this

Come on clown, don’t brush me off with your lame a-ss come back. I want to see one thing that I’ve posted that isn’t true. You can’t keep your superior mouth shut, now is time to prove your greatness. Or are you the one posting nonsense?

Merry Christmas!

By Bill

December 7, 2005 02:32 PM | Link to this

Ricky: Andy not dishonest to my experience. His name-calling put me off initially and I will always remain sidways with him over a couple of issues but I must confess that I do find some thought provoking content in his posts. Mark rest down to blowing off steam. Poll shows fickleness of polling. Absolutely nothing tangible different today than last week except President’s speech/conferences. People are simply responding to rhetoric. Me too! Finally, the man is talking nuts ‘n bolts about Capitalizing the Iraqi economy. Gives me hope. All the Cheney barbs ‘n bullstuff really turn me completely off. Nonetheless, all the polls reflect is talk-talk, nothing more. Com’on Andy give me a zinger so I know you’re still kickin’.

By Miss Manners

December 7, 2005 02:33 PM | Link to this

Andy: So sorry. If you actually went out for the morning, then hallelujah! I am pretty sure I didn’t lie, just made a mistake. Do you tolerate mistakes from less than perfect humans? So sorry. Please ease up on Ricky. I think he is a very nice guy with an open mind.

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 02:34 PM | Link to this

sickof…,

The White House has asked me to inform you that they never changed the name of their fries. (They haven’t even cooked them in over 5 years.)

More info than you ever wanted on Fry naming

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 02:37 PM | Link to this

Bill, the VP’s job is to do the dirty work of the administration. When Clinton was struggling Gore was out attacking Gringrich etc. Thats the way it works.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 02:48 PM | Link to this

Miss Manners: I haven’t missed you from the blog in weeks I’m sorry that I responded the way I did. I will be more comforting and gentle towards my attackers in the future. I have come to enjoy being the issue. It’s such a fulfilling type of debate. (Sarcasm!!)

Merry Christmas!

By Bill

December 7, 2005 02:54 PM | Link to this

Ricky: Yeh, Gore, my idol! Problem is it shouldn’t work that way and it’s up to us to “just say no” to attack politics. It’s completely poisonous to our culture. People rarely discuss now, they just lunge. It has become a time when the person with the keenest negative barb is emulated. Stupid positives (like issues, facts, constructive ideas/plans/mechanisms) are secondary.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 02:54 PM | Link to this

I’m stilling waiting to see a post I made that is false. I warned this Ricky yesterday, being as nice as I possibly could about making specious morally superior comments about me. I don’t care if he’s bipolar or spastic, someone needs to rein him in if he is incapable of doing it himself. If I have to be the one to do it just let me know.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 03:02 PM | Link to this

For what it’s worth it seems someone claiming to have a bomb was shot by an Air Marshal in Miami.

Fox-Is looking into details of what may have happened.

CNN-Is asking if the Air Marshal acted properly.

For people that wonder why anyone could watch Fox I present that as exhibit A.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 03:06 PM | Link to this

You are so cool Andy. Here is what I object to about you. You constantly call people names and just regurgitate the right wing talking points. I have disagreed with you in the past and have had you call me a pinko and other liberal names. I am a conservative and have voted for Bush twice. However, I don’t blindly follow what he says or does. I can admit when he has screwed up. He has made mistakes in Iraq, I was there to witness them on the ground. FEMA screwed the pooch on Katrina along with the local and state government. I personally don’t think you add anything to the political discourse which is why I include you with Midori and others like that. That is my personal opinion. I am not making judgements for the whole board as you insinuate.

By getalife

December 7, 2005 03:10 PM | Link to this

RW, CNN was doing alot of pro Bush coverage today until Mr. Murtha responded. They say the shooting was justified because he said he had a bomb and reached into his bag.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 03:12 PM | Link to this

Ricky: Then ignore me. Pretend like I’m not here. It is easy, I will do it with you.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 03:15 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I don’t want a news channel slanting the news in any fashion. CNN and Fox both have lots of commentary, opinion, and entertainment blocks. They can slant them any way they want, but when an active story is breaking they should be simply trying to tell their viewers what happened. After they know the facts they can start with the analysis of what was done right and what was done wrong.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 03:15 PM | Link to this

Even if they have the shooting on film, the moonbats will be blaming the Patriot Act or the Bush storm troopers that can do nothing right. PMSNBC will have a hour long special on the erosion of our civil rights.

Merry Christmas!

By getalife

December 7, 2005 03:18 PM | Link to this

RW, You are correct sir, but you may need to hear from the passengers to hear what they saw.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 03:18 PM | Link to this

Andy, I do igonre you. My original post was not directed to you, however you decided to attack me so I responded. Thanks for your input.

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 03:20 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Kim Peterson (the Kimmer)’s topic this afternoon is what do lesbians look for in each other.

Where is devil doll when you need her?

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 03:21 PM | Link to this

Even if they have the shooting on film, the moonbats will be blaming the Patriot Act or the Bush storm troopers that can do nothing right.

Lie

See cAndy, not that hard…

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 03:21 PM | Link to this

Ricky: Don’t speak my name, leave me out of it.

By getalife

December 7, 2005 03:24 PM | Link to this

Geezus, My memory is bad, what does the c stand for in cAndy?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 03:25 PM | Link to this

geezus: Let’s give them more than 30 minutes to put their psycho stories together. You want to bet that by this time tomorrow, I’m right on the money?

Merry Christmas!

By getalife

December 7, 2005 03:29 PM | Link to this

RW, Did Fox say the passenger died?

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 03:29 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Of course you need to hear from witnesses, but you don’t broadcast that on the spot.

Besides CNN wasn’t even to the point of interviewing witnesses when they starting speculating that the air Marshal was wrong.

I’m not calling them passengers because it didn’t happen on the plane. If this did happen on a plane then you could rely on witnesses a little quicker since most viewpoints would be the same.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 03:29 PM | Link to this

Once more into the breach, dear friends…

Andy, Ricky, click here and take a few moments to find your happy place…

It’s so trippy you might both go out and load up on patchouli!

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 03:31 PM | Link to this

Ouch!

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 03:33 PM | Link to this

oops, that last one has a bit of NSFW ads… my bad…

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 03:33 PM | Link to this

I just put the “c” there to get on his nerves. And to be unbiased, I posted a Democrat joke the other day. Here’s the other side sent from a friend yesterday (pretty funny as well):

The Bronze Rat

A tourist walks into a curio shop in San Francisco. Looking around at everything, he notices a very lifelike life- sized bronze statue of a rat. It has no price tag, but is so striking that he decides he must have it. He takes it to the owner and asks, “How much for the bronze rat?” The owner replies, “$12 for the rat and $100 for the story”. The tourist gives the man $12 and says, “I’ll just take the rat, you can keep the story.”

As he walks down the street carrying his bronze rat, he notices that a few real rats have crawled out of the alleys and sewers and begun following him down the street. This is disconcerting, and he begins walking faster. But within a couple of blocks, the herd of rats behind him has grown to hundreds, and they begin squealing. He begins to trot toward the Bay, looking around to see that the rats now number in the MILLIONS, and are squealing and coming toward him faster and faster.

Concerned, even scared, he runs to the edge of the Bay, and throws the bronze rat as far out into the water as he can. Amazingly, the millions of rats all jump into the Bay after it, and are all drowned.

The man walks back to the curio shop. “Ah ha,” says the owner, “you have come back for the story?” “No,” says the man, “I came back to see if you have a bronze Democrat, a bronze Muslim cleric & anything French.”

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 03:34 PM | Link to this

getalife,

They say that WFOR is reporting that he/she is dead.

By getalife

December 7, 2005 03:36 PM | Link to this

And no bomb. Andy did not lie.

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 03:39 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

Oddly all your NSFW ad girls live right around here, but I bet if “getalife” looks they will be the same girls and they will now have moved to Louisiana.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 03:39 PM | Link to this

If the guy threatened to have a bomb and reached into a bag I hope they shot him. They should have.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 03:40 PM | Link to this

Can anybody provide me a summary of missuz’s joke? Was it the usual Bush can do no right?

Merry Christmas!

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 03:41 PM | Link to this

RW, I’m shocked, shocked I tell you, that you would dare impugn the honesty and motives of these forthright, eager and supple young women.

Actually, I’m shocked that you know so much about how that actually works… Well, no, not really…

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 03:44 PM | Link to this

Andy, it’s something like Democrats are so dumb that they’ll blindly follow a blind rat… or something…

I got befuddled in the smoky imagery of, “so a guy walks into a San Fran head shop.” Now I’m really hungry and I don’t remember where I parked…

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 03:46 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy,

I thought they just got around.

Andy,

The joke is worth reading.

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 03:47 PM | Link to this

…sent from an Uber Republican friend of mine who is also an attorney, which makes it even more funny (IMO)

By Bill

December 7, 2005 03:48 PM | Link to this

Andy you really should read. This was jab at Democrats with southpaw at muslim clerics and french.

By getalife

December 7, 2005 03:51 PM | Link to this

RW, No, still says they live in Atlanta.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 03:53 PM | Link to this

getalife, thank you for conducting that vital piece of reconnaisance. Why didn’t the Brand Atlanta Task Force put these gals to use? They obviously enjoy visitors…

By getalife

December 7, 2005 03:56 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy, Don’t know, but that last one looked very familiar.

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 03:57 PM | Link to this

getalife,

If you are on an ISP in Louisiana and it says they still live in Atlanta it is either a rare local site or, thanks to BigDaddy, ml is now hosting an adult “dating service”. (And it doesn’t look local)

By getalife

December 7, 2005 04:00 PM | Link to this

Wait a minute, I looked again and they changed. I use to live in Lilburn and never saw her.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 04:01 PM | Link to this

RW, that would be the best thing ever to come out of ml…

And again, I’m shocked, shocked I tell you, that you know so much about how this works. “I thought they just got around,” indeed. Frankly, I’m indignant.

By buff

December 7, 2005 04:01 PM | Link to this

I wonder if we lost one of our Moonbat bloggers. I heard on the radio that the dead fake-bomber was bi-polar and w/o med. Yes, I did really hear that

By getalife

December 7, 2005 04:02 PM | Link to this

RW, I am on Bell South DSL and move from the great runaway bride city of Duluth.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 04:03 PM | Link to this

What can’t you ebay?

If I had any loyalty to the Hawks, this would be a buyer’s market…

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 04:04 PM | Link to this

buff, have you seen candide?

candide… candide… Where are you?

Anyone seen candide?

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 04:14 PM | Link to this

This is a PSA:

Though MSNBC may be encouraging you to drink this HannuKwanzMas season, please be careful, because if you do this(scroll down for the clip), then this fate may befall you

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 04:24 PM | Link to this

Hey ml, why aren’t the New Orleans residents in your toon black? I thought that most of the affected residents were black? From what I read on your interview (link someone posted yesterday) you consider these things heavily.

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 04:27 PM | Link to this

Here’s the link nice desk BTW (looks like mine…lol)

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 04:27 PM | Link to this

Throwing out the race card how Geezus. Another linchpin of the left

By buff

December 7, 2005 04:28 PM | Link to this

Don’t know where she is, BigDaddy. Maybe there is a Moonbat meeting somewhere

I hope that wasn’t’ here at the airport

Where is that hot little devil dodd?

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 04:29 PM | Link to this

While the Congressional Black Caucus has already decided to oppose Judge Alito. They haven’t even given the man a chance to express his views. Unbelievable.

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 04:30 PM | Link to this

Ricky, have they cited any grounds on which they oppose him?

By finch

December 7, 2005 04:30 PM | Link to this

Bill, your post on medical care is long but well worth the read. The US health care is socialist in all but name. The only difference between it and REAL socialized medicine (Canada, Britain) is the US system is far more expensive.

It’s costly because it must pay for the layers of bureaucracy in private insurance companies who are experts at two tasks. 1) Collecting premiums, and 2) Denying coverage because of pre-existing conditions, non-approved proceedures, incomplete paperwork, or whatever excuse suits their fancy.

Health care doesn’t need these parasites.

If we’re gonna have socialized medicine, we might as well have the real thing. It’s cheaper.

cAndy, it’s rare when I agree with you, but I would also like to see Ricky document the false links I’ve posted. I may provoke, but I don’t lie. And that’s the truth!

RW, the meat of my links to the LAT and NOLA still stands. President Bush talks a lot about helping New Orleans, but he’s all hat and no cattle.

By the way, concerning your critique of coverage by FOX and CNN of the Miami airport incident: Are you watching two TVs simultaneously, or what?

And how ‘bout that Labor Department report concluding that the real wages and compensation of American workers continues to slide?

I could get in trouble for saying this, but Merry Christmas!

By getalife

December 7, 2005 04:30 PM | Link to this

It’s sort of hard to explain.

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 04:32 PM | Link to this

Yesterday’s fact from CBS News: “DID YOU KNOW? 4 tablespoons of ketchup has about the same amount of nutrition as a ripe tomato.�?

Should CBS send an apology to the Reagan library?

By Porky

December 7, 2005 04:32 PM | Link to this

Helpful Hint to Mike Luckovich

Here’s how to make this carton funny:

Replace rhetoric with bulls@#t and get rid of the discarded newspaper blaming the Bush administration for stealing your sense of humor and selling it to the vampiric Zionists so they could use it in their racist crusade against the world’s oppressed & melatonin-rich poor.

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 04:36 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

Who really cares about the Congressional Black Caucus and Alito? They don’t get a vote.

finch,

Whatever, dude. I’m pretty well finished with your circle jerk, anyway.

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 04:39 PM | Link to this

Wow RW, I guess you won’t be able to cash todays check

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 04:43 PM | Link to this

BigDaddy, they say his decisions affect blacks disporportionately, but don’t provide any prove or cite any cases.

Finch, when you quote someone out of context to meet your political views, that is lying. You continually say Bush said we can’t win the war in Iraq and that is false as has been pointed out to you several times.

By finch

December 7, 2005 04:46 PM | Link to this

Hey, RW! I didn’t mean to offend you THAT much. It seems the prevailing atmosphere here is “yank the chain”, and when in Rome….

Your CBS tomato post was effin’ hilarious! But there’s a few problems with ketchup. It’s LOADED with added sugar, it has virtually NO fiber, and finally (drum roll… )

Do you REALLY want the Heinz-Kerry condiment empire to profit from the school lunch program?

Smile! C’mon I wanna see you smile!

as per White Hou… oh, forget it. Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 04:49 PM | Link to this

Like I’ve always said…Tennessee is a great place to be from

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 04:51 PM | Link to this

Good ole Al Gore’s home state

By buff

December 7, 2005 05:07 PM | Link to this

I am sincerely curious concerning your leftist’s views on Senator Kerry’s remarks about American troops terrorizing Iraqis in their homes

He is at it again, same thing he did after he came home from Nam

What the h-ell is wrong with him?

I just heard a portion of his speech on the radio

What is so politically stupid, this will haunt him when/if he runs again

What a piece of filth

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 05:07 PM | Link to this

finch,

I’m not offended, just done with this particular topic and your $14 billion mystery plan. It seems to be a very popular dollar amount for several projects in that neck of the woods.

By kimberly

December 7, 2005 05:13 PM | Link to this

Buff, Kerry doesn’t communicate very well. I THINK he was trying to illustrate one way in which this war is being mismanaged. (Among many, IMO) Recent polls and reports indicate that the majority of Iraqis don’t want the Americans there anymore. Perhaps the practice of storming their houses in the middle of the night has something to do with the negative feelings toward, and attacks upon, US soldiers. What Kerry ALSO said was that, if this sort of thing is necessary to root out “insurgents,” that it should be IRAQI forces doing it, not Americans — hence, they’d begin to take control of their own civil war instead of relying on us with no end in sight.

That’s my perception, but I don’t claim to know the man’s mind, and I hope he doesn’t run again.

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 05:18 PM | Link to this

kimberly, of course the Iraqi’s dont want us there anymore. Nobody would want their country occupied that long. However, polls also show that they understand we need to stay until they are ready to take over. Having been over there, I have seen Iraqi’s as the ones searching houses. Obviously Kerry doesn’t really know what is going on over there. More and more Iraqi’s are taking the lead in the fighting.

By Geezus

December 7, 2005 05:19 PM | Link to this

Do you think he has any problems getting a plan ticket??

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 05:20 PM | Link to this

abrupt segue into the environment:

What’s the best way to combat global warming?

Have Al Gore give a speech on the topic and then take a look outside.

Oh, wait, the pre-emptive documentary The Day After Tomorrow postulated this very scenario. Who says Hollywood is out of touch?

(Tip o’ the cap to James Taranto)

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 05:23 PM | Link to this

Geezus, that guy is actually a pretty good player too. I would hope he would have trouble getting on a plane

By BigDaddy

December 7, 2005 05:23 PM | Link to this

Geezus, great find!

By kimberly

December 7, 2005 05:27 PM | Link to this

Ricky, I’m glad you made it back safely! Were you there as a soldier, journalist, or contractor?

By finch

December 7, 2005 05:40 PM | Link to this

Geezus… One thing’s for sure. That’s an athelete with an unforgetable name. Maybe he should be in politics??

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 05:40 PM | Link to this

I went back through all of my posts trying to find out where I had been MEAN! so that I could learn to control my attitude here in the future. I only found one instance and it was actually more rude than MEAN! I forgot to attach the link to the column addressed in the post. So please allow me to correct.

Merry Christmas!

December 7, 2005 06:31 AM | Link to this

Anybody looking for a good laugh should read Cynthia Tucker’s round about explanation of how she feels hounded by the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. She laughably attributes the “origins�? of the Christian Celebration of the Birth of the Saviour to an ancient pagan ritual. Seriously.

Mother Lib also complains that the cultural fight over the founding traditions of the United States is overblown and a waste of time. This idea given while the AJC has spilt gallons of ink fawning over the impending marriage of Elton John (#12?) to his “bride�? David Furnish. No, class, David’s parents didn’t choose a masculine name for their “daughter.�? It’s a boy!

Some people have their priorities…

Will Hillary Tucker be found in her cubicle on Christmas Day, upholding her beliefs?

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 05:54 PM | Link to this

The critics said that comment could reinforce popular perceptions that the party is weak on military matters and divert attention from the president’s growing political problems on the war and other issues. “Dean’s take on Iraq makes even less sense than the scream in Iowa: Both are uninformed and unhelpful,” said Rep. Jim Marshall (D-Ga.), recalling Dean’s famous election-night roar after stumbling in Iowa during his 2004 presidential bid.

Perceptions?

Merry Christmas!

By kimberly

December 7, 2005 06:03 PM | Link to this

Okay, I’ll bite. Dean’s scream was a media-manufactured circus. With mikes and cameras right in front of the candidate, they captured a projection he was making to a large, crowded hall full of his own supporters as he was trying to reach the folks all the way in the back with an appropriate level of enthusiasm. (Not unlike Coach Richt pumping up his dawgs for the championship game.) After every whore, I’m sorry, “news network” played that scream, out of context, eighty times a day for a week, no one remembered anymore a single thing the candidate had said during the campaign. Am I wrong? Tell me I’m wrong? No, that’s literally what happened.

Regarding Dean’s more recent comments: GO HOWARD! The TRUTH will set us free. Amen, praise the Lord, Hallelujah! —leftie signing off—

By buff

December 7, 2005 06:05 PM | Link to this

Jiminy, I just read C. Tucker’s column

she said:

do hope we’re not nearing a national meltdown over this. With all the bad news bearing down upon us — the Iraqi quagmire, a huge budget deficit, rising interest rates, Nick and Jessica’s split

Wow, how in the h-ell did she get that hihg-paying job?

By Ricky

December 7, 2005 06:10 PM | Link to this

kimberly, you are right about the scream. It was totally overblown. However, Dean’s comments about the Iraq war are dead wrong. We are winning the war. Ask Joe Liberman, oh wait the press doesn’t want to talk about that. Murtha’s and Dean’s comments get 10 times the coverage that Liberman get. I wonder why

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 06:26 PM | Link to this

kimberly: I remember-

He wants to be the candidate for guys with confederate flags in the window of thier pick ups.

We shouldn’t pre judge Osama Bin Laden’s guilt (after 9/11.)

His favorite New Testament Book was Job.

“I’m a metrosexual.” –employing the buzz phrase for straight men who are in touch with their feminine sides, then later admitting he didn’t know what the term means

“We’ve gotten rid of (Saddam Hussein), and I suppose that’s a good thing.”

“I wish the president had spent more time on the Middle East and less time on Iraq.”

“I have in some ways a special relationship with the African-American community because of my college career…I had two African-American roommates in college.”

Those recipients don’t have any self-esteem. If they did, they’d be working. They’d be trying to get out of a system that is essentially saying to them: ‘You don’t have anything to contribute. Take our money and then go away and beat the system.’”

“I’ve seen others criticize the president. I think it’s very easy to second-guess the commander-in-chief at a time of war. I don’t choose to engage in doing that.”

“I sometimes speak elliptically, so I leave out pieces that seem to me to be obvious but aren’t obvious to the people who haven’t heard me talk about whatever the subject before. There’s been more than one time when I’ve said something, and sort of the middle of what I’ve said is not said but thought, and therefore assumed to be understood, which is a ridiculous assumption on my part, but sometimes gets me in trouble.”

AAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEYYYYYYYHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRAAAAAA

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 06:47 PM | Link to this

What did we bet, missuz? 1000 dollars?

Explosives not found after airport killing

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 07:08 PM | Link to this

Tax cuts for the rich? Who else’s taxes would you cut?

A few weeks ago, the Internal Revenue Service released data on tax year 2003. The data show that the top 1 percent of taxpayers, ranked by adjusted gross income, paid 34.3 percent of all federal income taxes that year. The top 5 percent paid 54.4 percent, the top 10 percent paid 65.8 percent, and the top 25 percent paid 83.9 percent.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 07:10 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Did you hear Mothra’s revised plan today? He wants to keep troops nearby in Kuwait and Okinawa. How close is Okinawa to Iraq?

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 07:14 PM | Link to this

I think I found it. Wow that is close!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 7, 2005 07:14 PM | Link to this

Ann Coulter! I guess Wednesday is her regular day from now on!

Ronnie Earle Is Better Suited for a Job in Hollywood

RW: Maybe Mothra has a new gun that can shoot 800 miles into the desert, or 3000 miles over the ocean if your in Okinawa.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2005 07:17 PM | Link to this

Andy,

To steal a line from Jaws, “He’s gonna need a bigger gun”

By buff

December 7, 2005 08:14 PM | Link to this

Coulter is GREAT!!!

Ronnie E. is a punk. He abuses his office, goes after Dems too, if they are not hsi political likeness

Delay, who I dislike, will never be convicted

Hey, where is that hot little DD?

I am going to see a movie

By Objective Observer

December 7, 2005 09:03 PM | Link to this

I’m always late to the game. I have just two things to say: Andy, glad you returned to the battlefield. BIG DADDY, BIG DADDY, BIG DADDY, I was shocked at the exposure you linked to. A little T-A&A is allowed, but that close up of the Venus Fly Trap was too much. There, my gender has been revealed, but some things are more important than maintaining identity. This is just a gentle chiding like the one you gave me at the other site. I know that you are sorry, but I’ll wait to hear it from you. Thanking you in advance, I remain, FEMALE.

By Bart

December 13, 2005 06:59 PM | Link to this

Some one beat you to it…

http://www.mcphee.com/items/11537.html

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