Atlanta Opinion

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 12:29 AM | Link to this

ml, I see you’ve finally come around showing Murtha with his head in the sand. Kudos!

Although you should get dialog right on the bald guys, Mothra wants to pull out.

By GOD

December 3, 2005 12:34 AM | Link to this

Ahh, I bring to you the dawning of another beautiful day. And quickly now, the beginning of yet another bountiful week. One which shall bring with it more vast revelations of Republiscum cowardice, lies, gross stupidy, and scandals aplenty.

It is good. My will be done!!

By Barb

December 3, 2005 02:50 AM | Link to this

The Marines made a tragic, tragic mistake in judgment. The same magnitude of mistake that bought/brought drunken Bush and his Iraq obsession into the White House. They deserved far better. We all do.

By Phil

December 3, 2005 03:05 AM | Link to this

Punko RW has typical Nazi lack of sense of humor. And sense. Dwells in “Land Of The Little People.” Pity.

By TS

December 3, 2005 03:52 AM | Link to this

Bent over with his legs spread apart hmm…

By Pinko Liberal

December 3, 2005 04:58 AM | Link to this

Looks like TS is having more of those homo-erotic dreams again. And RW joined the lemming crowd in thinking that it’s ok for a chicken hawk to besmirch our fine military.

By rene

December 3, 2005 05:48 AM | Link to this

too bad mike couln’t show baby bush like he realy is, head up his t**…

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 05:57 AM | Link to this

Maybe “W” hasn’t yet seen the old, fake intelligence that cartoon boy is using. That means there is still hope for an American defeat! Why, who could resist the advice of 2, count em, 2 crazy talk show pandering old men! Never mind the other 10,000 military officers who want to win, I found 2 looneys! And the Iranians agree with me!

No War In Iraq! We Need To Invade Israel!

Seek help, cartoon boy.

Merry Christmas!

By Big Hagel

December 3, 2005 07:35 AM | Link to this

Should have shown Kofi Annan in the same pose over the oil for food scandal or Dan Rather over the fake memo. But, objective ML has never been nor never will be.

By buff

December 3, 2005 08:53 AM | Link to this

RW, great 12:06 post.

Tru Con: another thoughtful post from earlier; I just disagee w/ you, but, I respect your position

By MikeSucks

December 3, 2005 09:20 AM | Link to this

Before I read this, I thought it might be a cartoon mocking the mindset of the editorial staff and the fact that the paper’s screaming liberal bias is killing the paper’s circulation.

Certainly the AJC leadership has their head stuck somewhere if they can’t face the problem that their one-sided propoganda is killing this newspaper.

By lew30305

December 3, 2005 09:22 AM | Link to this

I’d say Mike’s about right…W surrounds himself with incompetent syncophants who tell him what he wants to hear and then he makes speeches that Pollyanna would be proud of. Here’s a synopsis: “We are winning so stay the course, so let’s stay the course so we can achieve victory and then Iraq will have democracy and freedom, so lets keep it up. Stand up when they stand down yadayadayada! Yeah! O yeah and stay the course, don’t forget that.”

By gttim

December 3, 2005 09:24 AM | Link to this

A righty idiot wingnut can even compare oil-for-food or a newcast to over 2000 dead American soldiers? You should be ashamed of yourself! Our soldiers are far more important. I get so tired hearing these chickenhawk Republicans give lip service to our soldiers only to send them to die for lies with inferior equipment. Then if they are injured, they can’t get benefits because the GOP keeps voting them down so they can give huge tax cuts to the rich- who obviously are not doing their part for the “war on terror.”

Luckily, while Bush can’t see reality, the US can. Look for the lying GOP to soon be voted out of office. Look at the polls. Americans are sick of the top 2% of the wealthy getting the tax money of the middle class. They are sick of the soldiers dying while the Halliburtons of the world get all the money.

By Talon News

December 3, 2005 09:26 AM | Link to this

So right you are Big Hagel. Why didn’t you use Dan Rather??? Dan Rather is a FAKE newsman, with fake memos’s just like the rest of the LIB media.

Jeff O~O

By Joe Roman

December 3, 2005 09:30 AM | Link to this

Harry Truman wrote eloquently about the “five terrible presidents” prior to the Civil War as a principle cause of that nightmare, So with the possible exception of those guys, Bush is the most disengaged “president” we’ve ever had. He has about as much to do with reality as a pig with Sunday. Mike’s on target again.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 09:38 AM | Link to this

Stop the presses, Mr. “the buck stops here” gets to blame five Presidents for the Civil War, but the Middle East problems are all President Bush’s fault.

I still say if the subject in “ml’s” cartoon stood up that would be an “M”.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 09:49 AM | Link to this

buff,

Thanks, now if I had only made a 12:06 post anywhere that might mean more.

Go Dawgs!

By Jesus

December 3, 2005 09:51 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By getalife

December 3, 2005 10:04 AM | Link to this

Yes indeed GO Dawgs. Look for Shockley to have a big game so he will get a big pay day when he goes pro. Mike, is that Dubya with his head stuck in an elephant (GOP) a-s-s?

By Dusty

December 3, 2005 10:27 AM | Link to this

The only pullout I’d like to see is Luckovich leaving AJC.

By Joe Roman

December 3, 2005 10:29 AM | Link to this

Well hello, RW. Who initiated the invasion of Iraq? It wasn’t Bill. It wasn’t Daddy. It wasn’t Ronnie, and it wasn’t Jimmy. Have you ever heard the phrase, apples and oranges? You right wing fanatics make it way too easy.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 10:40 AM | Link to this

Joe Roman,

Which of your “five terrible presidents” initiated the Civil War?

He has about as much to do with reality as a pig with Sunday.

I guess something in that sentence takes care of the apple, care to point out the oranges?

getalife,

That story you were sending us off to Socialist web sites, to read, was in the AJC all along. (and my Go Dawgs is a link)

By Dusty

December 3, 2005 10:41 AM | Link to this

Just a passing thought, Joe. Ever heard of sour grapes? You lefty fanatics couldn’t win an election for dogcatcher. And in case you have forgotten, your liberal representatives in congress voted to go to war with Iraq. Oh, yes.

By sct

December 3, 2005 10:47 AM | Link to this

After reading the wingnut replies the reasons the Iraq war turned out to be such a catastrophe are obvious:

Dan Rather

Jimmy Carter

The AJC’s liberal bias

I guess W isn’t the only one with his head up that elephant’s a**.

By getalife

December 3, 2005 10:53 AM | Link to this

RW, Uga is a good dawg. Good for the AJC. What about this story?

By getalife

December 3, 2005 11:02 AM | Link to this

I love this part: “Powell thought that Cheney had the fever,” Woodward writes. “The vice president and Wolfowitz kept looking for the connection between Saddam and 9/11. It was a separate little government that was out there—Wolfowitz, [Vice President Cheney’s chief of staff, I. Lewis (Scooter)] Libby, [Under Secretary of Defense Douglas] Feith and Feith’s ‘Gestapo office,’ as Powell privately called it. He saw in Cheney a sad transformation. The cool operator from the first gulf war just would not let go. Cheney now had an unhealthy fixation.”

By sct

December 3, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this

In August 2002 Powell warned the president, “You are going to be the proud owner of 25 million people. You will own all their hopes, aspirations and problems. You’ll own it all.” Privately, writes Woodward, Powell and his top deputy, Richard Armitage, “called this the Pottery Barn rule: You break it, you own it.” Bush brushed off Powell’s cautions. The next day the president ordered his military commanders to step up their war plans and left for vacation in Texas.

Mr President, you just ordered the US military to go to war, what are you going to do next? “I’m going to Disneyland!”

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 11:04 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Here is where that book report was linked yesterday You can see what I think about there.

By getalife

December 3, 2005 11:08 AM | Link to this

I would have to agree with bushiscrazy. I think the President maybe insane.

By getalife

December 3, 2005 11:09 AM | Link to this

Or on drugs!

By buff

December 3, 2005 11:16 AM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) Excuse me, RW, was 12:03

December 3, 2005 12:03 AM | Link to this finch, Your passion is admirable, but your conclusions only apply if we presuppose that the war is just an unnecessary excursion. I don’t think it is. Bob Kerrey was adamant during the 9/11 hearings that had we only invaded Afghanistan before 9/11 we could have prevented it.

By getalife

December 3, 2005 11:17 AM | Link to this

In the months after 9/11, Woodward writes, Bush was obsessed with the threat of another attack. The president’s fears peaked in late November 2001, when British intelligence ran a sting operation on a Pakistani atomic expert who was ready and willing to sell plans for a nuclear weapon or a “dirty bomb” to Islamic extremists. And today, a drone bombed a house in Pakistan leading to a high level meeting with the top advisors this morning. Are we going to war with Pakistan?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 11:17 AM | Link to this

I’ll tell you what, last week was a pretty defining one for me. First we had Bush’s speech, which flushed all the democrats out into the open, from where they couldn’t cowardly snipe at the war effort anymore, instead all they could do is stab each other in the back. With just the tiniest bit of provocation, they showed their true pinko colors.

And then we had cartoon boy’s weak admission that he has nothing. He has to keep recycling the words of two lunatics, over and over and over, because that’s all he’s got.

Funny how all it took to get Bush’s Iraq approval numbers back to 49% was for him to expose how weak, cowardly and traitorous the libs really are. Maybe he should keep it up, no?

By Joe Roman

December 3, 2005 11:19 AM | Link to this

Here’s another one, RW. “You can’t reason with squirrels”. Where are you storing your nuts, RW? Oh, I forget. You are one of the nuts.

By getalife

December 3, 2005 11:20 AM | Link to this

Yes, wingnuts.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 11:21 AM | Link to this

buff,

I figured that is what you meant. Has your son gotten over the ticket sale?

By buff

December 3, 2005 11:21 AM | Link to this

Dawg fans: “IF” you win it will be because of your coach. All the jock-sniffers, even the local biased ones, state that LSU has more talent on both sides of the ball. But Mark Richt is a FAR SUPERIOR COACH than that open-mouhted morom, dumb-looking Les Miles. LSU was four plays away from losing five games this year. They have too may penalties (that is coaching) and their biggest weakness is crucial (aren’t they all?) turnovers, which is Georgia’s strength.

By getalife

December 3, 2005 11:26 AM | Link to this

buff, on the local news, your coach says they are ready and very confident. They are favored to win, but I believe Shockley will have a great game to make more money when he goes pro.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 11:27 AM | Link to this

Joe Roman,

Is that squirrel thing another pearl of wisdom from Truman?

By buff

December 3, 2005 11:27 AM | Link to this

RW, yeah, that was what I meant.

Yep, my son, actually, all three kids and three grand kids are coming tonight (all Georgia fans BTW, but I am kind of am too, so, I can’t lose). I am going to slow smoke EIGHT racks of baby back ribs and I just got back from the grocery and booze stores.

Here is what is wild: my neighbor. to whom I sold the tickets, called this morning and asked me if I wanted to go to the game tonight because his buddy who was going with him is sick

But, I would rather watch it in high def w/ my family

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 11:33 AM | Link to this

I tried to go back through and read True’s book size posting from last night but when I got to paragraph #1 and this gem- personally I think Al Queda gained strength when we invaded Iraq instead of going after Al Queda- it made my eyelids feel heavy. Never mind, borrowing one of the pinkos favorite funnies, we’ve killed how many of the #2 Al Qaeda men? That Al Zarqawi sent his right hand man and wife on a suicide mission, from which she chickened out? Why is it so hard to get a pinko behind the cause of their own country?

And then check out Finch doing the twist- And Andy, while the latest numbers on economic growth and jobs appear positive, the confidence of consumers and investors right now is a mile wide and an inch deep. Their “confidence” is so “low” that they’ve been busy shattering previous sales records. I, for one, hope this period of “low consumer confidence” stays with us for a long time to come.

Is this a incurable disease that we are dealing with or what?

By Catch22

December 3, 2005 11:33 AM | Link to this

RW’s desire for the W on the cartoon to be an M parallels the Bush administration’s desire for the intell during the Iraq runup to be exactly what they wanted to see and hear.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 11:33 AM | Link to this

Andy,

The show is heard locally on WWAA-AM/1690, though the station received a 0.0 rating during the summer Arbitron ratings

I think they are being unfair, they have at least a few listeners right here on this blog.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 11:36 AM | Link to this

Catch22,

Say what you will, but every time Laverne bent down the L became a 7.

By Larry Taylor

December 3, 2005 11:41 AM | Link to this

I can’t believe how so many Americans were fooled by Bush and Chaney about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Since there were no weapons found, they have changed their tune from weapons of mass destruction to the war on terror, which had nothing to do with Saddam Hussein. We all know Saddam is a piece of Doo Doo, but why sacrifice the lives of our brave men and women because you don’t agree with a low life dictator? If this country is in to forcing democracy on countries that don’t want it, why not go to North Korea and China just to name a couple of countries that has unsavory dictators? We are no longer respected around the world, because of this BIG MESS in Iraq. Larry Taylor, Cleveland, Ohio

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 11:54 AM | Link to this

Did someone say we abandoned our effort against Al Queda?

Pakistan’s English-language daily Dawn, quoting unidentified sources, said Hamza Rabia was Al-Qaeda’s operational commander and was among five militants killed in the missile attack Thursday on a house in North Waziristan.

By Dusty

December 3, 2005 11:57 AM | Link to this

Hmm, are the Braves playing tonight? After reading about those salaries, I thought maybe they were playing year round. But Chipper was nice enough to drop a lil ol’ 5M. Just pocket money after all. Now, back to football and loony liberals like Lucko.

By getalife

December 3, 2005 11:58 AM | Link to this

RW, On CNN , there was a report that it was a CIA drone shooting a missile to kill him. Also, there was a high level meeting this morning with Bush and his top advisors.I wonder if we are going into Pakistan?

By Midori

December 3, 2005 12:04 PM | Link to this

Regarding “pullouts” — it’s a damn shame Poppy didn’t pull out some 50 odd years ago.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 12:07 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Pretty much everybody says it was a CIA drone, except Al Queda. They say it was a “work accident”.

Don’t Islamo-fascist bomb makers have OSHA?

By Catch22

December 3, 2005 12:08 PM | Link to this

I actually heard on FOX news the other night that if if we leave Iraq the economy takes a whopping lick. Has our country sunk to a level so low that economic concerns overide right and wrong. OF COURSE IT HAS! You can bet that every lobbyist in America that represents a big contract holder in Iraq is working hard to keep us there. How disgusting it is that our servicemen and women are being used as collateral in this war.

By buff

December 3, 2005 12:09 PM | Link to this

Larry Taylor, OK, I do not like to make this point over and over, but for you pinko weasels, I will. The UN, France, Germany, Russia, Kerry, both Clintons, Edwards et al. ALL said the same thing the Prez said about WMDs. The Dems also supported the war. What is pathetic is that they did not want to, but, were reading opinion polls, they did it for political gain. I do believe that Bush is sincere in his actions.

So, Larry Taylor, did the aforementioned also lie?

By getalife

December 3, 2005 12:10 PM | Link to this

RW, A Pakistan official said it was a bomb mishap. I believe OBL is hiding in Pakistan and hope he was in that house!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 12:11 PM | Link to this

Larry Taylor: You may not realize this, far north pinko that you are, but the abbreviation CIA stands for Central Intelligence Agency. Bush and Cheney were fooled also, along with every democrat congressman except Cynthia McKinney, by this nest of pinkos, unable to do their jobs because of all the Vanity Fair photo shoots. Do they have schools in Ohio?

Silly Pinko

By Catch22

December 3, 2005 12:21 PM | Link to this

Well DUH! Buff of course they did after being shown exactly the intelligence that the administration wanted them to see. Based on what they saw, they voted yes. At least now they have the decency to say they were wrong.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 12:21 PM | Link to this

RW: Look at this link to Google that lists Air America’s website. Turns out that admission to the Variety Playhouse was free, “no tickets necessary.” I wonder if it was “packed” with area homeless? Click on the second link to see the featured speaker “Jay Bookman.”

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 12:25 PM | Link to this

Would someone contact Drudge for me and tell him for the love of God please take Madonna’s picture down? I’m afraid to go there and I am falling behind on current events.

Merry Christmas!

By Amazin'Grace

December 3, 2005 12:25 PM | Link to this

Amazing how a breast on TV can cause such horror yet when America destroys a beautiful nation and its people just to steal its oil no one is horrified.

Merry Christmas

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 12:30 PM | Link to this

Maybe Larry Taylor studied at this moonbat training camp.

or maybe,

He is in charge of union extortion for this guy

By finch

December 3, 2005 12:31 PM | Link to this

Andy, if you amend your statement on the economy to something like “sales not seen since the Clinton administration”, I might agree with you. Snapshot photos of the economy rarely give the big picture.

Hey, just to change the subject (and not to football, btw) how ‘BOUT that Pentagon funded propaganda in the Iraqi media?? Personally, I’m not against it. War is war, win their hearts and minds and all that. But why was the Pentagon so DUMB?? Hiring a Washington PR firm, giving them a contract, and as the NY Times John Tierny points out today, putting out such riveting stories as “Iraqi Soldiers Improve Leadership Skills”. Yawn.

Tierny suggests some hard hitting, New York Post style stories with Headlines like:

“Osama’s Orgy: The Tape Al-Jazeera Won’t Show You”

“Study: Handling I. E. D’s Linked to Sterility”

” Drunken Zarqari Insults Saddam’s Wife”

“Blackout Bliss: 100 Fun Things to Do When the Lights Go Out”

and my personal favorite…

“Bomber’s Report From Afterlife: No Virgins!”

OK, back to football. Do you mind if I watch the Army-Navy game?

And Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 12:32 PM | Link to this

That’s well thought out and real deep there, amazin’. Say, when do you think we’ll actually start stealing the oil?

By getalife

December 3, 2005 12:35 PM | Link to this

finch, As Terry Bradshaw would say: Now that’s funny!

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 12:37 PM | Link to this

finch,

As long as the stories are true it isn’t propaganda. Apparently most papers over there won’t run a story unless you pay them.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 12:40 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Set up a free account here put Drudge in as one of your feeds and you can get most of the stories without the Madonna fixation.

Your 12:21, what link?

By buff

December 3, 2005 12:44 PM | Link to this

finch, do you think USC can cover 20.5 points over UCLA? I am thinking abou taking the dog in that game

By Amazin'Grace

December 3, 2005 12:45 PM | Link to this

Bush told Woodward that as he approached the final decision to go to war, “I was praying for strength to do the Lord’s will .

So it was Jesus that wanted war, not the oil excuse?

By getalife

December 3, 2005 12:47 PM | Link to this

Did you say God Warrior?

By Talon News

December 3, 2005 12:48 PM | Link to this

ANYONE who thinks the Bush administration would stoop so low to manipulate the media is just a low life libby LIB. Get out of your PINKO fantasy world.

Jeff O~O

By getalife

December 3, 2005 12:49 PM | Link to this

Jesus?

By buff

December 3, 2005 12:50 PM | Link to this

C22, come one,

You think the Congress does not have intelligence committees?

The CIA, which does not like Bush, said it was a “slam dunk”

What about the UN? France” Germany? Russia? and the rest of the world?

I read an interesting story in the Washington Post sometimes back, by I think Bertrand Gellman, who hypothesized (that is an educated guess for you pinkos), that based upon some evidence and reasoning, that Hussein THOUGHT he had large quantities of WMDs in Iraq; his people fooled/lied to him for gain, and out of fear (not the kind of guy you want disappoint).

Our intelligence was based upon the beliefs of Hussein.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 12:51 PM | Link to this

finch,

Some interesting reading about what gets printed here for free

The headlines here didn’t need to be made up, links and everything.

Don’t miss the link to the San Fran cartoon that got to this issue while ml was still on his Mothra/Odom addiction.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 12:51 PM | Link to this

oops:

RW: Look at this link to Google that lists Air America’s website. Turns out that admission to the Variety Playhouse was free, “no tickets necessary.�? I wonder if it was “packed�? with area homeless? Click on the second link to see the featured speaker “Jay Bookman.�?

Merry Christmas!

Al Franken Show, What time does it start, What time can you be there?

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 12:53 PM | Link to this

That was well tought out and real deep there, amazin’. When do you think we’ll actually start converting the Iraqis to Christianity?

Merry Christmas!

By Talon News

December 3, 2005 12:58 PM | Link to this

At the next Bush press conference I’m going to ask this:

Mr President who does Jesus want us to bomb next, and is that a “Holiday Tree” or a “Christmas Tree”?

Jeff O~O

By getalife

December 3, 2005 01:00 PM | Link to this

This is a big story I read that Rice is going on the offensive to this story next week. Wild Bill maybe right on his World War III ideology.

By buff

December 3, 2005 01:01 PM | Link to this

Concerning Lameovich’s latest ‘toon:

We on the right know where HIS head is. To sue a Neal Boortz phrase: “ML has cranial-rectal inversion”

Another Boortzism I will cite: “He is a void surrounded by a sphincter muscle”

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 01:05 PM | Link to this

Catch22,

ANGLE: You mean a member of Congress can just call up in the midst of this debate over the war, could just call up the CIA and say hey, guys, I am wondering about a particular issue. I want to ask some questions on this?

HOEKSTRA: Not every member of Congress. Every member on the Intelligence Committee can do that, and request for other members of Congress go through the Intel Committee, we decide whether we are going to give them access or not.

ANGLE: Now, The Washington Post reported the other day that only six senators and a handful of House members took advantage of an opportunity to come over and look at the National Intelligence Estimate, the whole document, which was available to them before they voted on the war.

What do you know about that? Were people given the opportunity to see that? And did they take that opportunity?

HOEKSTRA: Members were given the opportunity. I don’t know exactly the date when they were given the opportunity to access the documents. I know who’s seen the documents, and so I know the number, but it’s classified in the committee, so I can’t share it with you.

But I think the American people would be surprised by how few people took the opportunity to actually go through the National Intelligence Estimate, and I think they’d be disappointed

Full Transcript

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 01:16 PM | Link to this

buff,

This is ml?

May not be safe for work.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 01:20 PM | Link to this

buff,

That link I just left you doesn’t work for me, let me know if I need to use a different one.

By JoeCKEN

December 3, 2005 01:21 PM | Link to this

I swear I’m going to be sick. If you left wing p——s havn’t figured out yet that the world can’t become A better place by complaining to the CHICKEN HAWK U.N.,then get the hell out of the way and let us take care of it. Liberals are the ones with thier heads up thier a I mean in the sand not Bush!

By Bill

December 3, 2005 01:41 PM | Link to this

The President is bound to get better intel this way than he did from our sterling military/intelligence community prior to invasion. I believe this is the same military/intelligence community that is now “winning” the war for us; isn’t it? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and each time expecting a different outcome than what you got the first time.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 01:45 PM | Link to this

Bill: Bush is getting rid of the pinkos at the CIA and State Department slowly but surely. Soon enough, we will have a top notch intelligence agency.

P.S. Would you please stop plagiarizing me? *the same military/intelligence community that is now “winning�? the war * It’s starting to get embarrassing.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 01:51 PM | Link to this

Finch: I’m not quite ready to cede that the US economy is in a deep recession yet, but I would like to ask a question. Where do you think this economy would be if the pinko media didn’t lie about it day in and day out? If they kissed it’s a-ss the way they did with Clinton?

No questions please, I have to tour the oval office with some interns.

Merry Christmas!

By Bill

December 3, 2005 01:57 PM | Link to this

Hi Andy: Can’t find where you made that statement, you’ll have to point it out- guess great minds just think alike. Since the President has now had 5 years to clear the Pinkos; don’t you think his job performance is a little SLOW!!!!! Five years down the road you can’t criticize the previous administrations anymore. At that point you must accept responsibility yourself; dont you think? All I’ve heard from intel lately sounds like the Dems: yes, no, maybe, duh! If that’s “top notch”, it’s no wonder we went into this war blind.

By finch

December 3, 2005 02:00 PM | Link to this

RW - the Iraqi news plant story gets funnier. One Baghdad publisher says if he knew the US had been paying for the stories, he’d have demanded more money!

buff - USC is good but not THAT good. With a spread like that, it’s UCLA.

Andy - I sure as hell HOPE the CIA and State gets their cajones back. Top notch spooks would’ve told Bush 3 years ago that Iraq wasn’t behind 9/11 and didn’t have WMDs. Or did they? Jury’s still out, IMO.

Merry Christmas!

By "Objective" Observer

December 3, 2005 02:06 PM | Link to this

I thought Bill said last night that he would never return to this blog or is it a different Bill?

By Bill

December 3, 2005 02:07 PM | Link to this

“Objective”: Didn’t read blog yesterday. Must have been another madman.

By "Objective" Observer

December 3, 2005 02:15 PM | Link to this

Bill, Was just wondering. All contributions allowed here.

By Oh The Humanity

December 3, 2005 02:15 PM | Link to this

Yes soon the CIA will be a top notch agency! You can count on the fact Bush will put just the right people in place. Soon Boris and Natasha will no longer escape detection.

Yes there is a nice marketing gimmick, Operation “Pinko Panther” will soon go in effect to restore the CIA. Now even though Jesus said no when Bush asked him to bring Peter Sellers back to life, Bush is expected to bring Brownie back to life, a disaster expert, to head the operation. Also helping with the CIA restoration will be Raffy Palmiero, Ken Lay, Harriett Miers and Bush’s old Little League coach.

Peter Sellers “Pink Panther” is Bush’s all time favorite spy, the agency will demand this brilliant model of competency to be Born-again. America will be great again, the CIA restored.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 02:19 PM | Link to this

Bill: Bush should fire all the pinkos at the CIA? That ain’t what you said on Thursday- Let’s see. “No intention of listening�?. That certainly sounds like an open-minded, party-bridging, and intelligent attitude for the Commander-in-Chief to have.

Merry Christmas!

By Sharon

December 3, 2005 02:21 PM | Link to this

God’s Plan

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,

Before you were born I set you apart.

Jeremiah l: 4, 5

“For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord.

“Plans to prosper you, and not to harm you,

plans to give you hope and a future.”

Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me,

and I will listen to you.

Jeremiah 29: 10, 11, 12

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 02:24 PM | Link to this

Finch: We went to war over WMD “intelligence” - Top notch spooks would’ve told Bush 3 years ago that Iraq.. didn’t have WMDs. Or did they? Remember now? Is the truth that hard to deal with?

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 02:31 PM | Link to this

Oh The Humanity: Actually we are working on a movie called “All the Pinko Reporters” starring Robert Redford as an older and wiser Bob Woodward. We are talking about unearthing Richard Nixon and having him play John Kerry. We’ll just lean him against a podium with a tape recorded speech.

Merry Christmas!

By Bill

December 3, 2005 02:36 PM | Link to this

Andy: The President’s demeanor in national and international discussions (for which “listening” is critical) has nothing to do with the people he hires to work for him. He has the right and duty to staff his administration in any way that he feels the national interest will be best served. We don’t have to debate that- he has that power already and has had it during his entire Presidency. If he hasn’t used that power effectively at this point; I reiterate that he has failed in his duty. By the way, it’s no dishonor to fail; it’s only dishonorable to deny it.

By Oh The Humanity

December 3, 2005 02:45 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the tip Sharon, I prayed and Jesus did listen, in fact he answered me just like when he told Bush to Shock and Awe Iraq. Heres a part of our conversation:

OTH- Jesus what do you think of the PC “Happy Holidays” controversy?

Jesus- Let me get this straight, you are in a war where many, many lives have been snuffed out and ruined and you think I care whether you say Merry Christmas or not???? Are you insane?

OTH- What are you doing on your birthday this year, you know Christmas?

Jesus- Now you are really making me angry, lets make a deal, whenever you are at war NO CHRISTMAS CELEBRATIONS that year! Nothing, no Santa no Lights no presents NOTHING. Then we’ll see how many stupid wars you start. Hardly any I’d bet.

OTH- Anything else?

Jesus- Yea, how about not starting any more wars in my name. Oh and stop praying to help me make your favorite football team win, I’ve got more important things to do.

By buff

December 3, 2005 02:45 PM | Link to this

RW, the 1:16 link did not work

finch, I went with UCLA. Of course, I also went with Central Florida. If their qback is not bought off, he should be

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 02:46 PM | Link to this

Bill: Yeah, I know, Bush should have never brought Colin Powell on board at State to fester all of the ill will like he did. I have no argument there. That is why Bush’s poll numbers are down, because he listens to pinkos like you instead of war mongers like me. Peace brought 9/11, war will bring us democracy in the Middle East. And a respect from other nations that don’t want to get invaded the next time they mess with us.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 02:47 PM | Link to this

buff,

Try this one.

Is this ml?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 02:55 PM | Link to this

Oh The Humanity: That sounded a lot like Lucifer to me.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 02:56 PM | Link to this

Andy,

This one should push them the rest of the way of the edge.

Dec. 1 (Bloomberg) — U.S. Ambassador John Bolton said the United Nations General Assembly demonstrated its irrelevance today…

First the speech om the war, then the great economic news, and now Bolton picking on the UN

By Bill

December 3, 2005 03:06 PM | Link to this

Andy did you just accuse the President of being a “pinko like (me)”? There literally has never been a period of extended and lasting peace in the Middle East in all of written history (close proximity between too many enemy religions); why do you think peace and stability can be achieved there now? Why do you imagine that other nations would not want to be “invaded”. They can have the USA build up their infrastructure and throw 60 billion bucks a month into their economy. After a couple of years, they can have another popular revolution and go back to business like it’s been for hundreds of years. Does that sound like a bad way to take advantage of the “foolish Americans”?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 03:08 PM | Link to this

RW: Eliminating the UN would be an excellent way to save 283 million towards deficit spending..

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 03:14 PM | Link to this

“Republican” Bill: Look, dude, you’re lucky that I’m even acknowledging you, let’s not go off on the word games. I said Bush’s ratings were down because he listened to pinkos like you. Don’t read anything into it.

There has never been peace in the Middle East because we have never given war a chance. It’s that simple. It’s all convoluted for you libs, I’m sure, but we have to kill all of the terrorists who want to fight. This will leave only peace lovers, we can all sing Kum Buy Yah or whatever the pinko song is.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 03:17 PM | Link to this

42-3 at halftime

Does anyone else think Colorado wishes it wouldn’t have backed into this game?

Of course, the moonbats would probably advise Texas to cut and run just in case.

By Sharon

December 3, 2005 03:17 PM | Link to this

I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn’t, than live my life as if there isn’t, and die to find out there is.

By Bill

December 3, 2005 03:22 PM | Link to this

“Republican” Andy: Crusades lasted from 11th to 14th centuries (300 year war, remember?). I think we have given war a chance, or was this not enough time?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 03:26 PM | Link to this

Bill: Stop imitating me. Weirdo. Which American general led the Crusades, I forget.

Merry Christmas!

By finch

December 3, 2005 03:33 PM | Link to this

Hi Adny - I don’t know if your stand that the left-leaning media’s behind consumer economic doubts is valid. The LLM aint what it used to be. Newspaper circulation’s down. Meanwhile Rush Limbaugh’s tops in radio and Fox is #1 in cable news. You can’t say the LLM dominates anymore.

As for the CIA’s alleged assertion that Saddam had WMDs… that’s up in the air. Factions in the US intellegence community (Joe Wilson, Valerie Plame, et. al) were saying wait a minute! Was President Bush given false information on Iraq and WMDs? Did (maybe) Cheney or Rumsfeld fudge the data? Did Congress get the straight scoop? What’s the real reasom that most of the rest of the world said, “My dog’s not in THIS fight”. The folks who say they know who told what to whom are either lying or stupid. And inquiring minds (like ours) do want to know.

I’m looking forward to the Georgia - LSU game, but I can see me flipping channels back and forth when the UCLA - USC game kicks off. Decisions, decisions. Damn, I can’t take the pressure!

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 03:35 PM | Link to this

Victor Davis Hanson is the Man-

*Europeans fixate on American interrogations of captive murderous terrorists but remain silent about thousands who have been killed, tortured or forgotten in Fidel Castro’s gulag a few miles away. Iran, North Korea, Serbia and Saddam’s Iraq tortured and executed tens of thousands without much fear either the U.N. or the Europeans would spend their own lives and treasure to stop such endemic barbarism. *

Nail The Pinkos, Vic

Merry Christmas!

By Bill

December 3, 2005 03:38 PM | Link to this

Andy: just letting you know that name calling cuts both ways. No American generals in Crusades, only their British and European ancestors (the same ones who founded and initially colonized America, you know). Point is we are fighting a religiously radical populace today in the Middle East, just like our ancestors did 700 years ago during the Crusades. Crusaders won many victories and furthered the cause of Christendom for a short time but did not win the hearts and minds of the Muslim native populations and were thereby eventually repelled and defeated. “Those who pay no attention to history are doomed to repeat it.”

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 03:47 PM | Link to this

Finch: You are getting awfully specious, aren’t you? Let me try to pin you down. Show me one article from the AJC that has anything positive to say, without the little pinko qualifiers (today: But rising tide doesn’t lift all, unreal) about the economy after 1/20/2001. And then go try to find anything the pinko media said bad about the economy before the same date.

Joe Wilson’s fact finding trip to Niger actually reinforced the notion that Saddam was looking for uranium. That is the conclusion of his superiors. He, being a pinko, was only interested in doing in Bush, not gathering accurate intelligence in defense of the United States.

Merry Christmas!

By The Vent

December 3, 2005 03:51 PM | Link to this

White House mail: Dad, if you won the first Gulf War, why was Saddam still in power? — Dubya.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 03:52 PM | Link to this

Bill: We fought off the British rule in 1775. They weren’t our cup of tea. Besides, I don’t think they had Playstation 3 during the Crusades like we do now. If we can lull the masses here in the US, by golly, we can lull them in the Middle East.

Are you going to remember all of your silly pinko arguments a year from now after we have won the Iraq war and peace prevails in the Middle East? You’d better, because I will…

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 03:55 PM | Link to this

George Bush, Sr.: Because I listened to the U.N. my boy. When your turn comes to stand up for freedom and democracy, don’t make them same mistake that I made with those pinkos.

Love, Dad and Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 03:59 PM | Link to this

finch,

The economy article Andy referenced from today’s AJC is 22 paragraphs. The first three tell you that job and wage growth is up across all sectors. The other 19 tell you we are teetering on the brink of the great depression. They don’t support that in any way, they just don’t want anyone thinking President Bush may not be so bad after all.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 04:09 PM | Link to this

70-3 Texas

This is starting to look like the House vote the other night.

By Bill

December 3, 2005 04:11 PM | Link to this

Andy: a year from now we will still be bogged down in much the same way we are today. We simply have no plan for anything else. We aren’t going after any enemy; we are only reacting to the actions that the enemy takes. Why would anything change when no action is possible (other than killing them all and letting God sort ‘em out- ok with me but others are queasy about killing the good half of a population in order to get the bad). What are we going to do that we haven’t done? Why haven’t we already done it? Maybe Santa will bring you some “magic victory dust” for Christmas, Andy, but I wouldn’t count on it.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 04:23 PM | Link to this

Bill is trying to form a loop, to get us right back to my first post about killing the ones who want to fight and singing pinko peace songs. This is where I get off.

Bill: Why don’t you develop a Valium habit for the next year or so. Just cruise through the next 365 days and then we can talk about the new Iraqi made plasma TV’s, sorta like all the Japanese things we buy.

Merry Christmas!

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 04:25 PM | Link to this

fellas, fellas. let’s all come down here. leave it to punk lesbo chick to be the voice of reason.

how about we debate some football? other people are talking about - this buff dude and a bird named finch and rw, who makes me think of of rootbeer.

rw, it’s clear colorado is in way over their heads. texas needs to send in the cheerleaders before this gets embarrassing.

who do you take, uga or lsu? i’m a georgia fan, but my take is on lsu.

By finch

December 3, 2005 04:25 PM | Link to this

Hi again Andy - No, I don’t think I’m being specious. If the AJC represents the left leaning media, then judging by it’s circulation drops, pretty soon we’ll be the only people reading LLM stuff! I’ll say it again. With the influence of Rush, O’Reilly, Fox, as well as Drudge and the other Internet platforms, the stereotype of the LLM monolith is turning into a myth. A boogeyman. And it’s hard to put a positive spin on the GM shutdown in Doraville or the Ford plant in Hapeville maybe closing. Heck, I get the WSJ and outside of their editorials, they’re talking about downsizings, bankruptcies, pension fund collapses, and all that other good stuff every day, too. It ain’t just the AJC. Or the NYT. Yup, even the Wall Street Journal.

Hey, come Tuesday we’ll see retail sales, factory orders, and consumer confidence numbers out. Let’s see if we’ve got a trend going here. If those numbers are good and get doom and gloom headlines I will be perplexed. Piqued! Chagrined, even!

Joe Wilson may (verdict’s still out) have shown that Saddam was looking for yellowcake, but windowshopping and actually buying are two very different things. No promises were made, and no money changed hands. Everyone agrees on that. Nothing even remotely resembling a nuke facility has been found in Iraq. You wanna bomb nuclear weapons complexes, aim for Iran, or N. Korea. But there was nada in Iraq, except maybe for wishful thinking. If I windowshop at a gun store, but don’t buy a thing, am I guilty of assembling an arsenal? Nope.

And VD Hason is full of cow doodoo. I really don’t care what one foreign government does to other foreign nationals. Cuba, North Korea, Serbia, whatever. That has nothing to do with what said foreign governments do to US citizens, or what the US does to non-citizens. Now THAT gets my attention. Just as a matter of principle, torture should not be US policy. I think torture is useless. Yank out my fingernails and stick red hot pokers up my nethers and I’ll tell you anything you want to hear, including outrageous lies, Just so you stop.

Are there instances where torture is useful? I doubt it, but I dunno. I’m no interrogation expert. However, if there is, CHEAT dammit! Plausible deniability is a wonderful thing. The Bush administration has a doctorate in being idiotic and is doing post-graduate work on making deep holes even deeper. Tell the world that you think torture is shameful and horrible, and you’d never ever do it, then do what you think is absolutely necessary. Do it very rarely, don’t tell anyone, and don’t get caught. There. Wasn’t that easy?

Merry Christmas! Where’s the TV remote?

By Midori

December 3, 2005 04:31 PM | Link to this

Since you wingnuts know so much, here’s your chance to make some REAL money.

$1 billion in grants to anyone anywhere who can FIX IRAQ

http://www.fedgrants.gov/Applicants/AID/OM/BAG/RFA&%23032%3B267-06-001/Grant.html

By Bill

December 3, 2005 04:34 PM | Link to this

Andy: I don’t form the loops; I simply call attention to them where they exist. Japan a good argument. We did win their hearts and minds after the big one. I don’t think that we did so by occupation and force, however, I think it was a result of prosperity induced by the adoption of American business practices. I agree that if the Iraqis can set aside their prejudices and take a shine to capitalism, we can win in Iraq. The Japs liked to cut off heads and use suicide bombers, too, so maybe we do have a chance.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 04:38 PM | Link to this

Anybody looking for a good laugh should read Cynthia Tucker’s side splitter on the death penalty. Ms. Tucker claims that no more young men are being born in America, thus we have lower crime rates. Honestly. Trust me on this, Big Lib would rather see an innocent man get executed than to admit that concealed carry and less restrictive gun laws are the real reason for reduced crime.

She also makes a weak, clumsy, unpracticed attempt at morality by calling us all murderers for killing murderers. Her guilt trip being the 1000 cold blooded killers “riding the needle” in 30 years. Again, the 1000 unborn children killed every 7 hours in America were unavailable for comment.

Cynthia, why don’t you coddle a cold blooded killer for Christmas? You know, do your part for humanity…

By finch

December 3, 2005 04:42 PM | Link to this

devil doll yer right. Football! The LSU - UGA game shold be a hoot. I have to root for Georgia. Or my wife will kill me.

Hey, RW, my AJC didn’t come today. That happens here out in the hinterlands. I’ll take your word for its column on the economy, though. But I stand by my original remark that the the LLM monolith that the AJC is supposedly a part of is fading fast. It’s a legend in it’s own mind.

Merry MERRY Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 04:42 PM | Link to this

Finch: There were no layoffs in the Clinton years?

Just show me the articles I asked for, quit squirming..

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 04:43 PM | Link to this

devil doll (dd),

It’s usually bad news talking to someone that types like you here, but a double-D punk lesbo chick doesn’t come along every day.

You should look up “root” in an Australian dictionary.

I’ll go with UGA, not being as gentle as they are here

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 04:44 PM | Link to this

Finch: I jumped the gun, So you are not in favor of the McCain amendment outlawing torture? Victor Davis Hanson is.

Merry Christmas!

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 04:44 PM | Link to this

oh well, you don’t have to be “yankee doodle andy” twenty four hours a day. let it rest for an evening. go buy a twelve pack of pbr and relax. also, an embryo is not a child.

bill, i think there’s a major difference between japan and iraq. iraq should not exist - it was carved up by colonial powers. the reintroduction of neo-colonialism is bad for everyone. and why should they have to engage in global capitalism? also, the word “japs” is highly offensive.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 04:47 PM | Link to this

devil doll: How would you know about babies?

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 04:48 PM | Link to this

rw, what’s wrong with my typing? and i’m not even close to a double d. so, tell me what “root” means. i’d love to be enlightened.

By buff

December 3, 2005 04:49 PM | Link to this

This is my worst week betting football in along time. Ut will beat USC, I think

I want LSU to win, but,I like uga too. As is said earlier, I think Richt could make the difference; much better coach

Talk to y’all tomorrow

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 04:55 PM | Link to this

buff, i know you probably left but…i’m not sure about richt being such a good coach. somethimes i think uga’s secondary is playing flag football out there. and the clock management is abysmal.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 04:56 PM | Link to this

devil doll,

You’re not from around here are you?

people that type in all or mostly small letters seem to have a real nasty streak at times.

Here’s a link to every dictionary in the world

By Bill

December 3, 2005 05:00 PM | Link to this

DD- Japan, also, “carved up” by feudal lords. Point being made was that WWII Japan like today’s Iraq was a brutal empire that practiced abominable practices like beheading and suicide bombing. The Japs (no offense meant- are we offended by the term “Yanks”? “Brits”?) adopted our message of free capitalistic trade and a consensus was formed between our two societies in that manner. Why should all countries engage in global capitalism? Simply because it has worked better than any other means to form truces, trade alliances, align common interests, and cement allies than any other method to date. It has yielded more peace and prosperity than all the other governments/ideologies the globe has ever birthed. That’s why!

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 05:02 PM | Link to this

rw, i don’t think i’m nasty - unless when bullied. many people who write on the internet use lower case to save time.

i’m also georgia born and bred. my partner, however, is from california and thinks i’m crazy for posting here. she’s giving me the evil eye right now.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 05:04 PM | Link to this

Andy,

What are the odds that “Republican” Bill is a Kerry speech writer?

I doze off every time I try to read one of his posts.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 05:08 PM | Link to this

dd,

Around here as in this blog.

The nasty streak seems to be an exclusive trait of this blog.

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 05:09 PM | Link to this

bill, medieval asian history is a bit of stretch. and i know you meant no offense by the slang term for japanese. but it was wwii era term designed to otherize the enemey. it’s like calling muslims towelheads, or some such gibberish.

as for capitalism…i recognize that i participte in capitalism every day, but societies should be free to choose their own economic path. forced extraction of economies is not a viable choice for world peace.

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 05:11 PM | Link to this

rw, just reading my past posts. maybe i do have a typing problem. my grammar school teacher is rolling in her grave.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 05:13 PM | Link to this

dd,

What did you do to her? Maybe you do have a nasty streak!

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 05:17 PM | Link to this

to my old teacher? nothing, i swear to god. that’s my story and i’m sticking to it.

actually, i was kind of a tomboy - hard to imagine. i spent a lot of time on the bench outside the principle’s office.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 05:22 PM | Link to this

dd,

lol, from your first post i would never have guessed tomboy.

must be what you’re used to, this all lowercase is hard.

By Bill

December 3, 2005 05:28 PM | Link to this

DD- Forced participation in any economy is not capitalism by definition. Capitalism allows us to substitute economic incentive for armed conflict. It uses the “carrot” rather than the “stick” philosophy. Thusly, it is in a very real sense a mechanism of diplomacy.

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 05:33 PM | Link to this

i grew out of my tomboy faze eventually. although i still like getting tatoos and piercings. i even wear a dress now and again.

my brother ( a former marine), his wife, and my neice or coming over soon to watch the game. bro’s jealous over my “artwork,” but he won’t admit it. we’ve promised not to discuss the war, so i can’t get worked up over it - maybe i’ll post my thoughts in the next few days.

so rw, where are you from? i’m guessing you live otp.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 05:38 PM | Link to this

Bill: The economy that pinkos strive for is one where you work and they take your money. I’m not sure of the name.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 05:40 PM | Link to this

dd,

Originally from Massachusetts, and now just a little otp.

When I went back and read your first post it sounds like we’re all invited. What time?

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 05:44 PM | Link to this

bill, extraction economics is the use of force to guarantee an individual state’s hegemony. southeast asia under the french, west africa under the british, or even the caribbean under the US in the latter nineteenth and early twentieth centuries fits this model.

vietnam under the french was obstinately capitalist through their exportation of rice into the world market. but that didn’t make them a free society. self determination is is the key here.

By finch

December 3, 2005 05:46 PM | Link to this

Andy, sure there were layoffs during the Clinton years, but please! Don’t ask me to go back 5 years and look for stories. I think the business climate is a lot more tenuous these days, but I fear if I posed a link, the source would be derided as LSM. We’ll see if Friday’s numbers were the start of a trend or just a blip.

And yes, I’m for the McCain amendment. Just (very selectively) torture anyway, if you really must. Hope you don’t get caught, and lie (plausible deniability) if you do. I don’t think torture works, but like I said, I’m no interrogation expert. However formally endorsing torture as POLICY is just… plain… DUMB!!

Whoa, 2nd quarter and USC’s already beating the spread. I may turn to that OTHER game just to keep from falling asleep.

By Bill

December 3, 2005 05:48 PM | Link to this

They call that one Socialism, Andy. Hopefully mainstream America will always reject the call to “free bread and circuses”. I wish that getting big government off the backs of American business was as heated a blog as this one. Maybe then I would be more hopeful.

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 05:50 PM | Link to this

rw, can’t tell you that big boy. although bro would probably like someone to talk s—- with.

i’ll tell you something. this is the reason i love our boys in uniform. we live in east atl and i was afraid my brother wouldn’t come down to visit because some people stereotype the neighborhood as being bad. when he got out of the car the first time he said, “i’ve seen worse.”

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 05:54 PM | Link to this

dd,

fellas, fellas. let’s all come down here.

Your words, not mine. I guess as long as the car was still there later, all was well.

Here in Abilene we don’t have much trouble. otp does mean on the prairie doesn’t it?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 06:03 PM | Link to this

Bill: Don’t go feeling any kindred spirit here, but I can’t believe you actually said this- I wish that getting big government off the backs of American business. Government is a bigger drag on economic growth then the lies of the pinko media. Sarbanes Oxley, a fools remedy, is costing something like an average of 4 to 25% profit for every publicly traded company. EPA regulations on energy companies is the real reason gas costs what it does. I could go on…

By Bill

December 3, 2005 06:04 PM | Link to this

DD- Self determination is exactly the point. Countries you listed were forceably occupied colonial holdings. Not free market, forced market; forced by dictates of colonial occupier. You are describing Colonialism not Capitalism. Once again, Capitalism relies on free economic trade incentive; not armed occupation. It’ll make Andy mad, but I might suggest that the war we are fighting in Iraq is for us, at the very least, tainted by the suspicion of Colonialism. That’s one of the reasons that I feel the Iraqis may never trust us enough to adopt our economic philosophy. If they don’t; we will have lost, plain and simple.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 06:06 PM | Link to this

RW: itp i hear they like opp, now you know me, i’m down with opp..

By Geezus

December 3, 2005 06:11 PM | Link to this

Wow, Mike finally drew a cartoon dedicated to cAndy and RW…nice.

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 06:14 PM | Link to this

all right, i’ve got folks looking through fridge - gotta run.

rw, nice to have a civil conversation - it has restored my faith. i agree about the nastiness on this site. too much mud and not enough discourse. in the future, here are my politics: protection of abortion rights, protection of the second amendment (i like to shoot things, ok), iraq is an intractable conflict, gay adoption, etc. also, it was supposed to be calm down, freudian slip maybe…the thought of dudes - gross.

bill, we can continue later. four beers on a 120 pound frame is too much.

andy, merry christmas to you as well. and please, consider getting out more. i’d buy you a beer if you promise not to speak (just kidding, of course).

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 06:22 PM | Link to this

dd,

I’m just a sucker for Double-D punk lesbian chicks, even if they don’t measure up.

and,

we never discuss politics here!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 06:25 PM | Link to this

Let’s see, the last time we heard from geezus, he was hysterical because his boy had been caught in a bald faced lie. Now it seems as though he has unruffled his skirt and is back to showing off his vast intelligence.

dd: I’ve “gotten out” enough in my life to have learned some valuable lessons. I hope that you don’t have to experience a few of the more painful ones yourself. It seems like right now you want the best of both worlds. It’s nothing we can’t agree on, eventually…

Merry Christmas!

By Bill

December 3, 2005 06:31 PM | Link to this

Andy, while we may totally disagree on Iraq (personally I think the President bought a pig-in-a-poke; you think it’s winnable), I do think we have a lot of common ground. Told you I was Republican, bud. I’m just resolute about holding feet to the fire when I vote for someone. Bush promised me smaller government- he didn’t deliver. He promised to restore dignity to the office of President- give me a break! He promised to reduce taxes- talk about tokenism! He promised an intelligent reasoned Presidency- not! Just because “junior” hasn’t lived up to his promises doesn’t mean that the true Republican concerns for reduced government (lower taxes-same thing), free trade, freedom of religious expression, and the protection of the right to bear arms are any less valid. I just hope the electorate doesn’t throw out the baby with the bathwater next election. Hopefully, the Dems will continue to offer alternatives like Kennedy’s co-Senator and slick trial lawyers but if they get their act together and offer up a viable candidate, I’m afraid that all the progress of the last few years will have been for nothing.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 06:33 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I read on another blog today that Mothra was starting to remind them of Admiral Stockdale. There are some pretty strong similarities.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 06:38 PM | Link to this

RW: Yeah, but Stockdale was more articulate. (sheez)

By devil doll

December 3, 2005 06:40 PM | Link to this

ok, my last, absolute post of the day…

rw, i measure up plenty - more c cup, however. you seem like a likable fella, don’t use “kid gloves” when i come back.

andy,

experience a few of the more painful ones

don’t give up. lot’s of guys have “painful” first experiences, or so i hear.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 06:45 PM | Link to this

Bill: I debated whether I should leave you with your warm feeling but I just couldn’t do it. To tell me that the Iraqi people don’t want freedom or that they can’t handle freedom runs counter to all the basic Conservative principles. We believe in the basic goodness of man, with the realization that there are pinkos in the world who will take advantage of their freedom to do evil. If we eliminate the external influences of Iran and Syria, which will either come about by attrition or invasion, Iraq will stand as a free and democratic country. And I do believe that’s what GW Bush has “planned.”

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 06:45 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Flipping between games I stopped for a second on FNC. Neal Gabler said that war-hawk Murtha changing his mind and coming out against the war would be a “Walter Cronkite” moment. They never stop trying to sell the same bs.

Now I’ve got some interesting surfing to do, I need to find out what “kid gloves” means to someone with dd’s description.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 3, 2005 06:46 PM | Link to this

dd: It didn’t hurt!

Merry Christmas!

By Bill

December 3, 2005 07:01 PM | Link to this

Andy look at the incentive. We are giving the Iraqi people the same kind of incentive that we give our own poor, welfare. Freedom can’t be given away; it must be won by the blood and sweat of those who are willing to earn it and hold it. The Iraqi people did not have that determination on their own. Sadly, we can’t give it to them; they have to earn it. So far, half the American trained Iraqi troops deserted under fire in April. Doesn’t give me a lot of faith.

By "Objective" Observer

December 3, 2005 08:38 PM | Link to this

It was a nice visit tonight. Very civil and still entertaining.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 08:51 PM | Link to this

Today in Phoenix Governor Crazy Howie M.D., while claiming Republicans will make scapegoats out of immigrants also announced the Democrats plan for Iraq

The plan Dean says Democrats are beginning to coalesce around:

The plan includes a phased drawdown of U.S. troops through 2006 and 2007 and a redeployment away from high-risk urban areas, with Iraqi troops taking over the security efforts there.

Sounds familiar.

If you haven’t heard Howie lately

By getalife

December 3, 2005 10:07 PM | Link to this

RW, this is for you How bout them dawgs!

By finch

December 3, 2005 10:24 PM | Link to this

Hey RW - Yeah, the Dean/Democrat plan on Iraq sure sounds at first glance like one oulined at a certain white house in Washington. Significantly, it’s not like the Murtha six months and we’re gone idea. But overall, I’m not impressed with any of this claptrip. Either go all out and pulverize, or pull out. No p***-footing around.

And I think that both the Dean and the Bush plan to stem illegal immigrants is such pond-scum. Do you want to stop hordes pouring across the border with Mexico? Forget a 2200 mile “fence of death or arrest”. Forget half-**s green cards. Arrest, fine and jail employers who hire illegals. It’s so easy!! If hotels, contractors, agricultural businesses, landscapers and restaurants are squeezed relentlessly for hiring illegals (it takes zero effort to check someone’s SS# now, and a non-English speaking job applicant should be a BIG clue anyway), the hiring of illegals will disappear. If illegals don’t have jobs to come to, they won’t come.

What could be more simple? Or are business owners (who just happen to back the GOP) opposing this solution because they’re afraid they’ll lose their ability to hire sub-minimum wage workers who are paid in cash so FICA and other taxes don’t have to be paid on them, and they can keep wages in general depressed? Just wondering….

Merry happy joyous Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 10:26 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I bet buff feels good about selling those tickets now

By Phil

December 3, 2005 10:28 PM | Link to this

It’s that time again. Bedtime for all you Neo-Nazi Punkos. On with your baseball caps, clutch your pickup keys, climb into your excretia-soiled beds. Tomorrow’s a new day for nothing but posting. It don’t git no better’n this, do it?!?

By getalife

December 3, 2005 10:32 PM | Link to this

RW, He should have gone , just like I said, Shockley is going after the big bucks.This is getting too easy!dd: It didn’t hurt! Andy is Gay?

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 10:36 PM | Link to this

finch,

Fox news ran a special tonight called “Winning in Iraq-The Untold Story”. It comes back on at midnight. Watch it if you can, they went all over Iraq and showed the progress and the people. Fox didn’t sugar coat the danger areas, nor did the Iraqi people themselves.

If you watch it you’ll see why we can’t just bulldoze the country and start over.

By getalife

December 3, 2005 10:49 PM | Link to this

RW, [here is a good one] finch, I do not watch fox news, can you give me a summary of the story?

By getalife

December 3, 2005 10:50 PM | Link to this

oops,here you go RW

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 11:02 PM | Link to this

getalife,

This is the reporters notebook from the special

There is a short preview clip on the website, but it’s mostly just Greg Palkot and David Asman talking to each other.

By getalife

December 3, 2005 11:14 PM | Link to this

Will it all work out? Wherever you stand on the debate on the war, you have to hope so, for the sake of the people in Iraq who had no say in how things went one way or another. In the documentary on Saturday night, you’ll meet a whole bunch of these people. And we promise you that you won’t see a single press conference by a politician bloviating, as my colleague Bill O’Reilly would say. I invite you to tune in. I promise you it’s a side of Iraq you won’t see anywhere else — it needs to be seen.

By finch

December 3, 2005 11:21 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the tip, RW. I’ll watch, ‘cause I might learn something!

By finch

December 3, 2005 11:22 PM | Link to this

Oh, and you too getalife! Later…

By getalife

December 3, 2005 11:27 PM | Link to this

If you want to learn something, this is how we went to war I see why they left the administration and look forward to future comments.

By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 11:30 PM | Link to this

finch,

You’re welcome. It’s an eye opener.

getalife,

Is Bob Woodward paying you to post that book review?

By getalife

December 3, 2005 11:36 PM | Link to this

No, I did not have sex with that women, Monica Lewensky. Do you know what is going to happen in the next closed door session of the Senate? The impeachment of George W. Bush and he will face charges on this war.

By getalife

December 4, 2005 12:05 AM | Link to this

Get it, women instead of woman. Do you actually expect for Bill to get impeached for a b-l-o-w-j-o-b and nothing is going to happen to Dubya?

By Dubya

December 4, 2005 01:31 AM | Link to this

Good morning all you Bush Jihadists out there! A beautiful new Sunday. How many American troops will you murder today? 3? 4? 10 seems like a reasonable number to shoot for. Stand proud! And start those pituful posts coming.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 06:11 AM | Link to this

getalife: dd: It didn’t hurt! Andy is Gay? Why does it always have to be about homosexuality with you pinkos? Why do you expect everyone else to conform to your lifestyle? Can’t you understand if I had a normal first experience, in the back seat of a car with a woman, like most non weirdos? Does it baffle you libs that I don’t hang out in the strip clubs with Phil, leering at something I already have, until my money is gone? Since when has moral sickness become such a virtue?

“Dubya”: Don’t sound reveille at 1:30 in the morning you idiot.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 06:43 AM | Link to this

Clinton Tells Ky. Dems Bush Mismanaged War, Let’s not talk about Kosovo

How can Hillary tell anybody how to run a war if she’s never served in one?

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 06:58 AM | Link to this

Sshhhhh! Don’t tell anybody but I’ve uncovered a secret Bush war plan. We’re going let the Iraqis vote next week on their own government! And they don’t even have to show I.D! Now keep this a secret, we don’t want cartoon boy to find out Bush has known what he has been doing all along. That would ruin all of his fun.

Merry Christmas!

By BLR2

December 4, 2005 08:12 AM | Link to this

To “Luckobitch” and all the people that think his so-called cartoons are funny or make a political statement…you are a huge bunch of UNPATRIOTIC idiots!! Lets be like the French and surrender. They will visit 911 on us again if we do that..WAKE UP!! God Bless America and President Bush!!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 08:17 AM | Link to this

Dear Ken Herman, front page of AJC opinion on Sunday, why do my polls show a 48% approval of Bush’s handling of the war in Iraq, 60% among Republicans? Do I have more resources at my disposal than you do?

Silly pinko, tricks are for libs

Merry Christmas!

By "Objective" Observer

December 4, 2005 08:40 AM | Link to this

It’s hard to discount first-hand accounts of progress from Iraqi citizens on the progress being made within their country. However, that will be the goal of the liberal media. There will be those out there who will eagerly await the “bad news”. The word “HOPE” has no place in their vocabulary.

By candide

December 4, 2005 08:45 AM | Link to this

At least Hitler had the courtesy to commit suicide. I hope Bush takes the hint.

By "Objective" Observer

December 4, 2005 08:46 AM | Link to this

UhOh! Progress was repeated, but let me say it once again “progress”.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 08:55 AM | Link to this

Anybody check that ditch in Texas for Cindy? It was cold last night. Or do pinkos even care about her anymore? Ahhhhhahaha…

Merry Christmas!

By "Objective" Observer

December 4, 2005 08:55 AM | Link to this

Candide: Thanks for proving my point.

By Oz

December 4, 2005 09:06 AM | Link to this

Hey, what’s the Iraqi Army’s motivation to have us leave and take over from us? We fight their battles, it doesn’t cost them anything, and it doesn’t put their troops at risk. Is it time to tell them, “Hey we trained you, now it’s your turn”? … What? They’re not ready yet? In similary fashion, one of my former co-workers would always perform poorly on tasks that he did not want to do, he would only do enough so he wouldn’t get fired…

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 09:22 AM | Link to this

Oz: I’ll bet the company you work for is just full of new innovations and ideas. How long is your probationary period for new employees, about fifteen minutes? Do you have a training program established or do just rely on all of the pinko failed formulas like how we lost Vietnam for example? It’s George Bush’s fault that your company isn’t successful, right?

Merry Christmas!

By Erik

December 4, 2005 10:25 AM | Link to this

Bush the worst ? Here it is……{http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucrr/20051203/cm_ucrr/isgeorgebushtheworstpresidentever}

By buff

December 4, 2005 11:16 AM | Link to this

Well, congratulations to uga. At this site the other day I said LSU could not make mistakes; one blocked punt two bad passes = three TDs.

That drive where LSU had 35 yards in d3fensive penalties was bitter to watch

I hope is not injured too badly, although, think Flynn has great promise

I have a BAD hangover (my sons and I stayed up drinking bourbon and playing pool until about 4:00 AM, I think?)

I did catch the aimless mental wanderings of Barbara Boxer on FoxNews Sunday. What an idiogt

By buff

December 4, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this

I just read C. Tucker’s essay. What a disjointed, ramble of nonsense

By getalife

December 4, 2005 11:40 AM | Link to this

Erik,[Here is that link}(http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucrr/20051203/cmucrr/isgeorgebushtheworstpresidentever;ylt=AisLesW4cHRh.r9XUzVluris0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-) It is a pretty good article.

By getalife

December 4, 2005 11:41 AM | Link to this

oopstry again

By Geezus

December 4, 2005 11:48 AM | Link to this

cAndy, You have to forgive me, I do get busy with life periodically - you should try it, I highly recommend it. I suppose to question I have for you is:

How can you call yourself a christian and yet support a war in Iraq that is not a christian Holy War (which would be the only acceptable war to christianity)? No christian denomination has declared holy war have they?

Merry Xmas

By Midori

December 4, 2005 12:35 PM | Link to this

BUSH “Victory” document author is a pollster! (NYT)

BUSH looks not for better strategy, but better way to justify casualties.

NSC “Victory” document author is a pollster! by demondeac Sat Dec 03, 2005 at 10:15:44 PM PDT

It turns out that the National Security Council’s, “Our National Strategy for Victory in Iraq,” 35 page document touted by Scott McClellan as, according to today’s NYT, an unclassified, publicly accessible explanation of strategies that the administration has been pursuing in Iraq since 2003,” actually originated at the computer of “Peter D. Feaver, a Duke University political scientist who joined the N.S.C. staff as a special adviser in June and has closely studied public opinion on the war.”

Bush’s Speech on Iraq War Echoes Voice of an Analyst By SCOTT SHANE NYT Published: December 4, 2005 “This is not really a strategy document from the Pentagon about fighting the insurgency,” said Christopher F. Gelpi, Dr. Feaver’s colleague at Duke and co-author of the research on American tolerance for casualties. “The Pentagon doesn’t need the president to give a speech and post a document on the White House Web site to know how to fight the insurgents. The document is clearly targeted at American public opinion.”

In their paper, “Casualty Sensitivity and the War in Iraq,” which is to be published soon in the journal International Security, Dr. Feaver and his colleagues wrote: “Mounting casualties did not produce a reflexive collapse in public support. The Iraq case suggests that under the right conditions, the public will continue to support military operations even when they come with a relatively high human cost.” http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/04/politics/04strategy.h…

By Jesus

December 4, 2005 12:35 PM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 12:36 PM | Link to this

geezus: I live a pretty full life as it is now, thanks for your concerns. It really isn’t that big of a deal for me to read and type a few sentences every once in a while. I’m sorry to hear that you find such simple things to be quite the major struggle. Shoulda payed attention in school!!

It isn’t what God tells me that makes me want to kill Muslims, it’s what they tell me. In your challenge to master life’s simpler things, I guess you didn’t catch the part where they said they were going to kill us wherever they found us, 4 million being the body count that would appease allah. Only 3,997,000 infidels left to go!

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 12:54 PM | Link to this

Midori,

A politician using a political scientist as an adviser? I’m shocked, shocked I say!

An interesting excerpt from the Midori link:

According to Matt Rozen, a spokesman for Adobe Systems, which makes the Acrobat software used to prepare the document, that entry indicated that Dr. Feaver created the original document that, with additions and editing, was posted on the Web. There is no way to know from the text how much he wrote.

By Midori

December 4, 2005 02:25 PM | Link to this

spin it any way you want:

a pollster is a pollster is a pollster.

Now we have “pollsters” writing “policy”

Good grief.

By Midori

December 4, 2005 02:29 PM | Link to this

RW — you were the first out of the gate in this thread:

*By RW-(the original)

December 3, 2005 12:29 AM | Link to this

ml, I see you’ve finally come around showing Murtha with his head in the sand. Kudos!*

please explain — why would Rep. Murtha have his “head in the sand”?

The man is trying to save this country.

Why do you people take such satisfaction out of smearing and denegrading proven war heroes and vets?

Why?

Is the only honorable vet and/or hero ones that happen to agree with Bush’s insanity?

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 02:33 PM | Link to this

Would someone take a quick look at this and see if you think this is “just a pollster”

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 02:45 PM | Link to this

Midori: Benedict Arnold was also a relatively accomplished soldier before he let his lib instinct get the better of him.

The Very First Pinko Traitor

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 02:53 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I am in no way smearing Murtha’s past service by pointing out his insane position now.

He called for immediate withdrawal from Iraq which was widely reported here and, more importantly, throughout the Middle East. He then wrote a plan to be presented in the House. The plan he wrote had no resemblance to what he said in the press. He was then given a chance to vote on what he told the press and voted against it. You might use the old standby “taken out of context”, but this morning he has again calling for immediate withdrawal.

He goes on national TV to say our military is broke, broken, ill equipped, and worn out.

With troops in harms way and if any of that were true, it might be a good idea to try to remedy those things rather than broadcast them to the world. If Iraqis are going to be able to take over for themselves they have to have confidence that we will not abandon them to be slaughtered.

The only guy your side trots out as a war hero that I take pleasure in, what you call smearing, is John Kerry who is a traitor to this country and should have been prosecuted for treason.

By buff

December 4, 2005 02:54 PM | Link to this

RW, Midori

His vitae reveals that he is a policy expert; NOT a pollster. IF you want to find out a prof’s expertise look at the publications. This is considered qualitative, rather than quantitative work. So, RW, ou win again

Thetriangle Institute is highly respected, and so his work.

By finch

December 4, 2005 03:02 PM | Link to this

I can’t resist this!

Andy, Benedict Arnold was the conservative. He wanted things to stay the same.

The Continental Army was made up of liberals. They wanted things to change.

RW - I watched the Fox special on Iraq last night. Extremely interesting! Many of the Iraqis interviewed were Kurds, though. And the Kurdish dominated area in northern Iraq is by far the most stable part of the country, thanks in part to the US presence there (including the no-fly zone) since 1991. Areas where Sunnis and Shiites are mixed are much more volatile.

But that’s almost besides the point. The Fox special showed that there are parts of Iraq where some semblance of peace, democracy, capitalism and stability has taken hold. That’s encouraging and is due, at least in part, to the American presence. Hats off to Fox.

As someone who generally disdains Fox, it disturbs me ever so slightly to say that. But it’s true! I also liked the Fox special last month that concluded Global Warming is genuine. There may be hope for the Rupert Murdoch network yet!

Have an ever so Merry Christmas! And yay Dawgs.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 03:07 PM | Link to this

Finch: Democrats fought to keep slavery in the Civil War, what is your pinko point?

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 03:12 PM | Link to this

finch,

I wasn’t as surprised by the Kurdish areas and people as I was by the return of the wetlands and the marsh Arabs( Not to mention I wish I had an electronics distribution outlet in Baghdad).

With the steady drumbeat of hopelessness in our MSM you would think there was nothing but bombed out hovels from one end of Iraq to the other.

By Geezus

December 4, 2005 03:50 PM | Link to this

cAndy, You are implying that ALL Muslim are trying to kill you? Or is it only the radical, extreme faction? I cannot in good conscience categorize every Muslim as needing to die, just as I cannot categorize every Christian as needing to live (see reformed death row inmates). Again, your subtle omissions and lack of clarification smack of racism. Do you truely support genocide?

By Geezus

December 4, 2005 03:50 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, Merry Xmas

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 04:00 PM | Link to this

geezus: Only the ones trying to kill me, my family, other Americans or innocent foreigners. Sorry I wasn’t clear before, I thought you could figure it out on your own.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 04:06 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Drudge finally got rid of the Madonna picture.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 04:11 PM | Link to this

RW: Yeah but he put Hillary back up. I don’t know which is worse.

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 04:40 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I think we have to get used to “all Hillary all the time”. She was named after the mountain climber that no one had heard of until Hillary was about 7 years old, after all.

I just got around to reading the AJC-Fishwrap Edition. Did you know what a great bunch of guys the Crips are?

By candide

December 4, 2005 04:40 PM | Link to this

Mussolini was strung up in the Milan public square. Bush had better worry about this.

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 04:45 PM | Link to this

candide,

President Bush almost never wanders around in the Milan public square.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 04:53 PM | Link to this

RW: Candide/ Midori has delved into WW II history, this morning it was Hitler, this afternoon it is Mussolweenie, tonite it will probably be Tojo or maybe Uncle Joe.

Wasn’t that a lovely portrait they did of Tookie? The AJC has great respect for little punks that shoot shopkeepers in the back with shotguns and then mock them during their death struggles. They see this as power to the people to throw off the oppressive business owners. Tookie should be free!, right Cynthia?

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 4, 2005 04:54 PM | Link to this

and he can’t even string his shoes up right….lol

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 05:01 PM | Link to this

I wondered why we hadn’t heard from Tex in a while…

The Next Cindy Sheehan

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 05:01 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Maybe they will even bring “Tailgunner” Joe back around.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 05:05 PM | Link to this

I didn’t know John Kerry went back into the Navy…

Al-Qaeda leader killed by an American drone

Merry Christmas!

By buff

December 4, 2005 05:07 PM | Link to this

RW, I called the AJC awhile ago and told them to stop my subscription. I requested a refund, and surprisingly, the staff person said “Sure, no problem.”

She then asked “why” I was cancelling. I must say for a customer service person she was very nice and polite. So, I treated her that way and just said “overall, a lousy newspaper.”

I know it is just symbolic, but I refuse to support a left-wing cabal any more.

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 05:10 PM | Link to this

Note to blog:

John Kerry is, once again calling for Rumsfeld to resign.

John Kerry says he called for this 1 year ago and 2 years ago. (An anniversary thing?

John Kerry could have picked a cabinet had he run for President. He did? OK I guess he had to win to pick the cabinet

John Kerry says we now need fewer troops in Iraq.

John Kerry says we need a Defense Scretary like John McCain.

John McCain says we need more troops in Iraq.

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 05:15 PM | Link to this

buff,

The comic relief makes it worth it. The AJC does seem to have a great customer service group, maybe they just get a huge amount of practice.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 05:25 PM | Link to this

Buff: The pinko you talked to on the phone was either stoned or still sedated from an abortion. It is impossible for a sober lib to be nice.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 05:31 PM | Link to this

This is what the libs want in Iraq-

A week before elections last January, al Qaeda warlord Abu Musab Zarqawi declared, “a bitter war against democracy and all those who seek to enact it.” “Democracy is based on the right to choose your religion,” he said, making it “against the rule of God.” He said with freedom of expression, all is allowed, “even cursing God. This means that there is nothing sacred in democracy.” He said Islam requires the rule of God and not the rule of “the majority or the people.” There can be no separation of church and state. Islamic clerics must protect the people from politicians enacting laws that contradict the Koran.

Merry Christmas!

By Midori

December 4, 2005 05:37 PM | Link to this

It really doesn’t make a difference if Rumsfeld resigns or not.

Either way — Bush will just replace him with someone even more incompetent.

Why should he change now?

I doubt that Kerry would have filled his cabinet with this assortment of incompetents and criminals.

How’s that “restoring honor and dignity” going? Oh, that’s right!!! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!

It took bombing and destroying an entire country in order to kill/capture two men.

Pathetic.

By Dusty

December 4, 2005 05:39 PM | Link to this

Maybe that customer service group is in INDIA.

Just stopped by before eating grits, sausage and liver pudding tonight. Oh so good. Wish you were here! (Yes, I said LIVER PUDDING)

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 05:40 PM | Link to this

‘Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house, Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St. Nicholas soon would be there.

When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter, I sprang from my bed to see what was the matter. There was Santa again, on his annual journeys, Ensnared in a group of eight tiny attorneys.

They looked pretty grim and they threatened to sue, So we knew in a flash — “It’s the ACLU!” They paid us no heed, but went straight to their work, Handcuffing poor Santa, then said with a smirk:

“This is secular airspace, we can’t have a saint “Flying our flight paths — we need some restraint. “A sleigh full of toys is OK, we suppose, “But faith-based incursions we’ve got to oppose.”

Litigation on Christmas is something we dread, So we nestled our children all under their beds The Grinch doesn’t scare them, and Scrooge they see through, But what kids are prepared for the ACLU?

The reindeer were shackled as a further incitement, Then the lawyers unpackaged a 12-count indictment. “Merry Christmas to all!” they just had to foreclose (Though they had no complaint about all the “Ho Hos”).

One lawyer objected to Santa’s red clothing. “It’s religiously tainted,” he said with some loathing. “Poinsettias (the red ones) everybody must note, are “A church-state offense in St. Paul, Minnesota!”

Santa’s climb up each chimney (one lawyer made mention) Is a symbolic reference to Jesus’ ascension. And the reindeer, of course, recall the Apostles, And those who deny it are nothing but fossils.

These lawyers had labored at neighborhood schools, Making Christmas extinct there as part of the rules. Praise Kwaanza or Ramadan — they think it’s quite splendid, But say “Merry Christmas” and you might get suspended.

Our children, God bless them, don’t get or recall Why “inclusiveness” doesn’t include them at all, Why diversity theory (as the lawyers insist) must Require the annual quashing of Christmas.

In Canada, home of post-everything living, Now “The 12 Days of Christmas” are “The 12 Days of Giving.” Christmas trees aren’t part of their season at all, They buy “multicultural trees” at the mall.

At a Catholic Hospital the staff is ashamed To use the word Christmas, so their tree is misnamed As a “care tree,” though some would prefer “tree of life.” (Why not “tall lit-up flora” to avoid any strife?)

Australians are told they should have no compunctions Calling parties at Christmastime “end-of-year functions.” The idea is to make Christmas somehow unmentionable, A tactic I think of as wholly contemptible.

Instead of “White Christmas” they will probably sing, “I’m dreaming of a snow day some time in pre-spring.” Here’s my suggestion, a harsh one I fear, Why not call Christmas “Christmas”? (It’s just an idea.) this year!

Merry Christmas, everyone!

By buff

December 4, 2005 05:41 PM | Link to this

Andy, you may be right. As I always say: “There is nothing more on God’s green Earth meaner that an angry, activist leftist

By Dusty

December 4, 2005 05:43 PM | Link to this

Oh, hush, Midori. You could spoil anybody’s dinner without even trying. You are probably having —tripe.

By Oh The Humanity

December 4, 2005 05:45 PM | Link to this

This is what the Christians want in America-

A week before elections last November, Christian leader James Dobson declared, “a bitter war against democracy and all those who seek to enact it.�? “Democracy is based on the right to choose your religion,�? he said, making it “against the rule of God.�? He said with freedom of expression, all is allowed, “even homosexuality.” This means that there is nothing sacred in democracy.�? He said Christianity requires the rule of God and not the rule of “the majority or the people.�? There is no separation of church and state. Christian ministers must protect the people from politicians enacting laws that contradict the Bible.

By Eric

December 4, 2005 05:56 PM | Link to this

SEC 2005: 1. Auburn 2. Georgia 3.LSU War Damn Eagle!

By sct

December 4, 2005 06:07 PM | Link to this

“There is no separation of church and state.”

Sound familiar?

By Midori

December 4, 2005 06:43 PM | Link to this

This is what those historians said — and it should be noted that some of the criticism about deficit spending and misuse of the military came from self-identified conservatives — about the Bush record:

He has taken the country into an unwinnable war and alienated friend and foe alike in the process; He is bankrupting the country with a combination of aggressive military spending and reduced taxation of the rich; He has deliberately and dangerously attacked separation of church and state; He has repeatedly “misled,” to use a kind word, the American people on affairs domestic and foreign; He has proved to be incompetent in affairs domestic (New Orleans) and foreign (

Iraq and the battle against al-Qaida);

He has sacrificed American employment (including the toleration of pension and benefit elimination) to increase overall productivity; He is ignorantly hostile to science and technological progress; He has tolerated or ignored one of the republic’s oldest problems, corporate cheating in supplying the military in wartime.

http://tinyurl.com/dlmo5

By Pink Lady

December 4, 2005 06:43 PM | Link to this

I am only going to wear pink in the future. Such a lovely color. Andy what color do you wear, yellow?

By Dusty

December 4, 2005 06:45 PM | Link to this

OH, the humanity—I doubt that you are a Christian. Most surely we, as Christians, would hope that you would be one.

But we follow Christ, not James Dobson nor any other preacher. We learn from our families, out church, our Bible and those who set examples. But each must find their own personal faith. Then we follow in the best way we know. We depart this earth only with our personal faith, not that of anybody else.

The Christians I know believe this is a great country with a great Constitution. You may draw your own conclusions. Try not to base them on politics.

By hewhoasks

December 4, 2005 06:58 PM | Link to this

Great cartoon, Mike.

By buff

December 4, 2005 07:51 PM | Link to this

Dusty, your 6:45 post, well said!

The left cannot get over Bush winning in ‘00. Their hatred of Prez Bush is nauseating. They have no plan, other that new social/welfare/medical programs. they are vote-buyers, using my money to advance their own power.

They have a union mentality; I need to make more than I am worth

Their argument that we brought on/deserved 9/11 resides in the same nonsensical self-loathing abyss as the battered wife who thinks.”If I had not made his so mad he would not have beaten em; it is my fault” How sick, demeaning, deranged, and crying for mental help

Liberalism is a mental disorder

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 08:02 PM | Link to this

I like Pink Lady’s 6:43 post. I actually have a plan for when I am put in charge that all libs are required to wear pink. That way they will be readily identifiable and we will know not to listen to their ridiculous ideas.

It will also make it easier for the men to find the easy pinko women.

Merry Christmas!

By ohnoyoudidnt

December 4, 2005 08:03 PM | Link to this

The caption should read fake news stories on this blog

By ohnoyoudidnt

December 4, 2005 08:05 PM | Link to this

Happy Holiday.

By A Libertarian

December 4, 2005 08:07 PM | Link to this

Buff, your nothing but a Republican cheerleader. Your insisting you lean libertarian is obsurd and dishonest. Critisism of Bush is widespread and doesn’t mean the person being critical of him is a loony left wing pinko commie lib. Bush has lost the confidence of most Independents and Libertarians which make up at least 35% of registered voters and have also been very vocal in their displeasure with Bush and his policies.

By ohnoyoudidnt

December 4, 2005 08:13 PM | Link to this

This one fits this blog too Happy Holiday.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 4, 2005 08:14 PM | Link to this

A Libertarian: You ever wonder why Bush can’t go to the bathroom without the pinko media riding him about it? That maybe what they report as news just might be partisan political bulls-hit? How you are a dupe by believing what they say?

Merry Christmas!

By Dusty

December 4, 2005 08:18 PM | Link to this

Buff, thank you for the kind words.

You know I can remember when being “liberal” was not a bad thing. But the connotations now are hateful in almost every way. As you said, they have turned against the president in a mentally disturbed fashion, to put it mildly. Seems like they would know what this does to the country but Liberals don’t seem to care.

Now, we have two great Christmas poets—you & RW. So much talent. Who woulda thought it! You both deserve Claxton fruit cakes (which are even better than liver pudding.)

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 08:26 PM | Link to this

Great story from The Austrlian. so good in fact ml’s computer won’t let me link to it. In fact it won’t even let me leavr the url im the post.

The best riposte to this warped analysis is a scholarly and sober 700-page volume recently published in France, of all places. Le Livre Noir de Saddam Hussein (The Black Book of Saddam Hussein) is a robust denunciation of Saddam’s regime that does not fall into the trap of viewing everything in Iraq through a US-centric prism.

Don’t worry, the link isn’t to the 700 page book.

Excerpts from the story in the Australian:

Between February and September 1988, 100,000 to 180,000 Kurds died or disappeared. The bombing of the Kurdish village of Halabja with chemical weapons including mustard gas, tabun, sarin and VX on March 16, 1988, which killed 3000 to 5000 civilians, was the most publicised of these atrocities because it occurred near the Iranian border and Iranian troops were able to penetrate with the assistance of Kurds, filming and photographing the victims.

Halabja was not an isolated case however. Saddam used chemical weapons at least 60 times against Kurdish villages during Anfal.

Some conclusions:

The repressive system put in place by Saddam was impregnable from within. There was no democratic solution to Saddam’s dictatorship.: no popular movement, no insurrection could have overthrown him, as the Kurds and Shi’ites found out through bloody experience.

“The American war was perhaps not a good solution for getting rid of the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein. But, as this book shows, after 35 years of a dictatorship of exceptional violence, which has destroyed Iraqi civil society and created millions of victims, there wasn’t a good solution,” Kutschera writes

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 08:32 PM | Link to this

http://www.**tralian.news.com.##/common/story_page/0,5744,17439165%5E2703,00.html

change ** to theaus

change ## to au

By ohnoyoudidnt

December 4, 2005 08:35 PM | Link to this

Do you get paid to post pro Bush propaganda? Merry Holiday.

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 08:36 PM | Link to this

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.##/common/story_page/0,5744,17439165%5E2703,00.html

change ## to au

Sorry everyone, ml’s comouter thinks this is offensive content.

By Phil

December 4, 2005 08:44 PM | Link to this

Achtung! Yes, it’s that time again. Bedtime for Bonzos. All you little Repub fascists don your baseball caps, attach your truck keys to your tiny little “members” and slide into your greasy beds. Tomorrow brings a whole new day of hatred for you to enjoy. Rejoice!

(No, Phil does not read your weak-minded crud - just scans & picks out a few of the dumbest constant offenders.)

By Talon News

December 4, 2005 08:54 PM | Link to this

ohnoyoudidnt, you are just plain crazy in your warped libby lib FANTASY!!!!

The Bush administration does NOT manipulate the media!!!! There are no fake stories, there are NO paid journalists, there are NO fake reporters, NO propaganda articles!! Get it out of your lib biased head, its the liberal media that reports this stuff. DONT BE FOOLED!!! Why do you hate America?

Jeff O~O

By susan

December 4, 2005 09:14 PM | Link to this

A few notes:

I find it very interesting that anti-liberal commentary appears to be rife with hatred and bigotry.

If conservatives support less government, why, over the past 4 years, have they passed an increasing number of laws that increase government?

Mike tells it as it is. He’ll tell it just the same whoever is in office, because let’s face it, there are many money and power hungry crooks governing us in both the Democrat and Republican parties.

By buff

December 4, 2005 09:28 PM | Link to this

To: by a Libertarin, you are fake.

I voted for Harry Browne in ‘00, even donated money to him and went to the Fabulous Fox election night for the celebration. I got to shake HB’s hand, got pretty loaded, and had a great time. I think I was staying at a Days Inn across the street. Here is what is interesting The libertarians at that gala event were ALL pulling for Bush.

Perhaps you have trouble with reading, but, I have denounced Bush’s domestic policy over and over on this blog. His liberal economic policy makes me want to puke.

However, I do agree that the war on terror with Islamo-fascists goons is worthy.

So, put down your crack pipe and find a post where I have been a big Bush fan. I frequently write about those who criticize him, but, wire your three synapses together and try to comprehend that I am criticizing THEM, not supporting HIM.

Again, I am 100 behind him on the War Against Islomo-Fascists.

Finally, do not get caught up in the arrogant, intellectual euphoria that many libertarians espouse. You are as misguided as the leftists were with communishm.

By Ricky

December 4, 2005 10:24 PM | Link to this

So Jack Murtha says he is against the war and it can’t be won and the newsies go crazy. For VP candidate Joe Liberman comes back from Iraq and says progress is being made, but it hardly gets talked about. Wow, what a surprise. If the President’s head is buried shouldn’t all the Dems who agree with him be right next to him. I love the double standard of the left.

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 10:30 PM | Link to this

Ricky,

Mark Steyn must be reading your mind

susan,

Don’t be fooled by a moby like “talon news”, that’s not a conservative.

By finch

December 4, 2005 10:41 PM | Link to this

Good evening, RW,

Your right about Iraq’s marsh people as shown by Fox. Now, there’s another faction in Iraq that was clearly shafted by Saddam. As I’m sure you know (this is just a refresher for those who don’t) the huge marsh that is the Shaat al Arab was frigging destroyed by Saddam after the 1991 Gulf war. There went the livelihood of about a million people. My, he was a vindictive twit. Thanks to the US and the Brits, the marsh people are coming out, although judging by their standoff with the Brits over alleged spies earlier this year, they aren’t totally embracing the presence of the West. I’ll give ‘em time.

The Australian excerpts from that book “The BlackBook of Saddam Hussein” are credible to me. There’s no doubt Saddam aspired to be Hitler. But why did Bush bet all his chips on sinking this particular monster? In my book, North Korea and Kil Jong Il are FAR worse. That idiot’s killed at least three MILLION with his imposed famines over the past 10 years! Plus, he doesn’t just aspire to strategic nuclear arms, he has a working missle program and a working nuclear reactor and already claims to have the bomb. Why not decapitate the bigger monster?? Oh, right. China would get peeved, and North Korea doesn’t have any oil, and Mr. Kim hasn’t been accused of trying to off W’s dad. Yet.

I worry about Andy citing the Washington Times. Everyone knows it’s owned by Sun Myung Moon, a man who says he’s the Messiah, and who was born in North Korea and allegedly still has ties to it. I lived in Washington DC for 10 years (actually Arlington, Va.. so close to the Pentagon that my walls shook on 9/11) until 2 years ago, and that paper is not taken seriously by anyone there except a handful of far right wingers.

Speaking of the overall tone of the posts here (not that we have, but others did), while I find Andy almost impossible to have a dialogue with, you at least seem open to a reasonable exchange of ideas. Okay, wanting to bring back Tailgunner Joe presses my envelope, but I’m flexible. Here’s to more vigorous debate. I love give and take. I learn things. But entrenched ideologues of any stripe, from Anne Coulter to Cindy Sheehan alternatly bore me and scare me.

For the record, I don’t consider myself a liberal. And I think it’s simplistic for people like Andy (whom I’m sure is a nice guy, only drinks on occasion, and never beats his wife) to divide folks into two distinct groups: Those who think that President Bush can do absolutely no wrong, and everybody else, who are either liberals or pinkos (same thing, I guess). I don’t hate Bush. He’s far from our worst President. But while he’s not stupid, he’s made some really stupid mistakes.

Sorry I can’t post here more often, but I have this other life. I’m busy packing for a trip to Pittsburgh next weekend to see my brother, who (like me), is in his 50s, successful, and thinks Bush has been losing it. He did vote for Bush last year, by the way. I’m looking for some boisterous political jawing with him, which I expect will end with the usual filial hugs and shared beers. We’re going to the Bears-Steelers game. We’re both Bears fans (deep Chicago roots), but we’ll be wearing orange to the stadium. We may be stupid ourselves at times, but we are most definitely NOT suicidal.

Did you happen to see Saturday Night Live last night? It opened with the singing of Christmas carols reduced to generic secular monstrosities. You’d’ve LOVED it!

Merry Christmas!

By Semper FI

December 4, 2005 10:48 PM | Link to this

buff, glad to hear you cancelled the AJC. Now you can be like me, buy your toilet paper on rolls.

Ricky, you are so right… I think it’s amazing Bush’s poll numbers are so high given the bias.

All, don’t shop WallyMart, they don;t have any Christmas stuff.

Merry Christmas and God Bless You, even Candide/Midori/Satan/or whomever you are..

By Semper FI

December 4, 2005 10:59 PM | Link to this

Finch, North Korea doesn’t have 17 UN resolutions agaisnt it. Also, politics is like the Bears-Steelers games, when you go, you really need to cheer for the one team you like. There is only two on the field, Dem and Reps.

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 11:05 PM | Link to this

finch,

I tried to link that story from the Australian, back at 8:36 I got ml’s computer to take it by substituting “##” for “au”. I’ve been curious whether it works for anyone. If I paste into my browser it fixes itself, probably because I’ve already been to the site. I would think anyone that hasn’t been to the site would have to paste it and then fix the link.

Andy gets a little too much blame sometimes. Most of the absurd “Andy” posts don’t seem to be him and I’m the one that brought up Tailgunner Joe.

I’ve had some great times in Pittsburgh wearing “enemy colors”, even joined a couple of tailgate parties. Just wear the Bear jersey and be friendly. (but keep the “I lost a bet when the damn Blackhawks got lucky” excuse handy.

By finch

December 4, 2005 11:08 PM | Link to this

Semper, real Republicans and most Americans don’t give a rat’s butt about the UN. Even if they did, most of the UN and all but Britain on the Security Council failed to endorse the Iraq invasion. For comedy relief, our intellegence seems a lot clearer on what North Korea is up to NOW than what Iraq WAS up to.

And there are lots more than two players on the political field. Unless you think John McCain, Colin Powell Olympia Snow and Michael Bloomberg are all card carrying members of the Bush machine.

Merry Christmas!

By finch

December 4, 2005 11:14 PM | Link to this

RW, I pasted the link, added “au”, and had no problem. Great read. “Those in the G-d Da-n American camp… ” Hah!

I’m going to try to post the link here myself, just out of curiosity. If it works, I urge others ro check it out.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.##/common/story_page/0,5744,17439165%5E2703,00.html

Merry Christmas!

By finch

December 4, 2005 11:17 PM | Link to this

Dang. I guess the ajc DOES have a stick up it’s unmentionable about aussie sites.

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 11:20 PM | Link to this

finch,

I guess you just answered my last post. The AJC won’t take anything from the n-ew y-ork s-un either.

By Semper FI

December 4, 2005 11:20 PM | Link to this

I sure don’t care about the UN, they should be dissolved. I’m just saying, the libs love the UN and I was thinking we Bush would catch more hate if we hit North Korea. They would just holler we should have hit IRAQ, since they were the law breakers. But as you point out, it doesn’t seem to matter, they’re going to hate Bush, irregardless.

I agree we have some other great candidates, but that’s for future games. We’re playing this one now.

I agree more with Bush than you do apparently. Irag needed to be taken out. Libya has already caved. We get to kill terroist from a lot of other countries, just being in Iraq. They coming to us and we only have to kill them once.

I love having a Prez that wakes up every morning thinking about how to kill terroist and lowering taxes. He’s my perfect moral conservative but I have problems with his fiscal conservate polices.

By RW-(the original)

December 4, 2005 11:24 PM | Link to this

and somewhere in cyberspace, a post between my 11:05 and my 11:20 floats.

By Dubya

December 5, 2005 03:50 AM | Link to this

OK, rise and shine all you never-served BUSHISTA JIHADISTS! It’s 0353 hours. Huge, heaping hunks of hate just waiting for your use. How many American GI’s will you slaughter today? You’ve had an exceptional week already, you heroes. What’ll the count be, little tough guys?? Less than 10? More than 10? Stand proud!!!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 04:49 AM | Link to this

O.K. you sissy wimp pinkos, who I could care less whether you served or not, it makes no difference. It’s closing time at the strip club, you’re out of money, don’t run over that downtown Atlanta homeless guy trying to warm himself under your car. Time to get in bed. Remember you have no job, we have to get up at noon tomorrow and apply for government benefits until we can’t stand to fill out another form. And then start a protest out front while we’re there. So sleep well and dream of all those innocent civilians that Saddam killed before our brave soldiers got to Iraq. If we keep sniping at Bush and his every move, maybe Iran will kill about 500,000 of their citizens. Oh joy.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 05:25 AM | Link to this

If it weren’t for the United States-

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, speaking in October at a conference in Iran titled “The World Without Zionism,” vowed that a wave of Palestinian attacks would destroy Israel. “There is no doubt that the new wave in Palestine will soon wipe this disgraceful blot from the face of the Islamic world,” he declared. “Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s fury,” while any Islamic leader “who recognizes the Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of the Islamic world.”

Is this what the pinkos want?

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 06:12 AM | Link to this

Remember when Cynthia Tucker derided society for being mean to Lionel Tate, the 13 year old Florida boy who bludgeoned and smothered a 6 year old neighbor girl, because we had him in jail? You don’t? Well here you go-

PRISONACT, Love then killers, adopt a murderer

Turns out that Cynthia was wrong and the Cons were right. This blood thirsty little lovey was caught sticking up a pizza delivery man at gunpoint. The wisdom of the AJC knows no bounds. Why is the comfort and coddling of a cold blooded killer worth more than the life of a pizza delivery man? Why does Cynthia always come down on the side of evil?

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 07:07 AM | Link to this

This is how pinkos contribute to our national security-

Though the CIA has steadily leaked damaging stories about the Bush administration since September 11, 2001, it has crossed a new threshold with a leak that severely damages CIA activities and arguably harms national security — just to cripple George W. Bush. Most people outside the Beltway, as well as many within it, still think of the CIA as the home of swashbuckling hard-liners who break all the rules to advance U.S. national interests. Not in this century. As attorney and former counsel to the Senate Intelligence Committee Victoria Toensing put it, “Derring-do is dead.” When she interviewed a CIA station chief in a major country, he bragged about his operatives’ diversity rather than their accomplishments. Political correctness reigns in the U.S. government at every level, and the CIA is no exception.

Look at all the Muslims we hired!

Merry Christmas!

By buff

December 5, 2005 07:39 AM | Link to this

Andy, wow, I knew that the State and Justice Departments were guided by career pinkos, but, sheesh, the CIA? Let’s thank the worst Prez in our country’s history, Jimmy Carter, for making the Agnecy PC

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 08:17 AM | Link to this

Buff: Peanut Boy and the Church Commission are the ones who castrated the CIA but it was Hillary Clinton’s “husband” who seeded it with pinkos.

Merry Christmas!

By Ricky

December 5, 2005 08:20 AM | Link to this

Thats the funny thing about the Dems. They are the ones that gutted the CIA and limited what they could do and who they could it with. So they set all these restrictions and then they complain when the CIA doesn’t have assests in places it needs to getting good intel. What a joke.

By buff

December 5, 2005 08:26 AM | Link to this

Here is a link to an article by anything-but a conservative

http://www.mdjonline.com/270/10203313.txt

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 08:49 AM | Link to this

This is what the pinkos are fighting against in Iraq-

“They [the Iraqis] don’t have to join — it is all voluntary,” Bolger, commanding general of the Coalition Military Assistance Training Team, tells National Review Online. “A young man can find many jobs in today’s Iraq, including new ones like selling cars; now widely available to most folks: or cell phones; a true post-Saddam ‘must have’ item.”

Skeptics and those opposed to the war contend that young Iraqi men join because of a lack of opportunities in that country. The army, they say, offers about $300 a month. “But the enemy will pay a person $300 a night to plant roadside bombs,” says Bolger. “It is more than money. It is patriotism and a sense of duty. In fact, one of the most often heard reasons for Iraqi privates joining the army is, “It is my duty.”

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 09:13 AM | Link to this

Let’s see: cAndy, rw, buff, ricky, semper fake, finch, talon news,…..hmmmmmmm. It doesn’t quite total the 10 soilders killed the other day, but I’m sure it would help….why don’t ya’ll sign up for your war? You call us ungrateful, but your not stepping up for your war (or your pres) either. Lead by actions! Armchair republicrats

By ohnoyoudidnt

December 5, 2005 09:16 AM | Link to this

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT ONE LITTLE IDIOT WITH SEVERAL WINDOWS OPEN, IS GETTING PAID TO POST PRO BUSH PROPAGANDA

By buff

December 5, 2005 09:19 AM | Link to this

Well, Geezus, I am a vet, am 56 years old, so, i do not think the military wants my geriatric arse. My youngest son in a Marine officer (just got promoted to the rank of Captain), has been to Iraq twice, but, really, that does not matter in this debate

You people just don’t get “it” We are in a WAR that will last decades

These sub-cultural half-humans will not be appeased

I guess if you had been around Dec. 7, 1941 you would have wondered what we did to deserve this. You would have thought that our oil policy w/ China caused the Japs to bomb us

You are such a loser

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 09:20 AM | Link to this

geezus: Conversely, instead of raging here, with your veins popping out of your hysterical forehead, you could always strap on a suicide belt in service to America’s enemies. I hear Zarqawi is looking for a few good pinkos.

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 09:23 AM | Link to this

Armchair Republicrats Unite!!!!

Your Honor Has Been Violated!!

Your Administration is a Joke!

You Are Killing Your Children!

(I have to shout because your heads are in the sand)

PS you are not the only poster here who has served his country with honor

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 09:26 AM | Link to this

O.K. pinkos, let’s rise and shine. We got a busy day of “dissent�? ahead of us. Bush is still in charge so we must redouble our efforts. First we need to attend our 2 hours of college courses per week-

1:00- 2:00 p.m.- “Abortion issues and the Koran.�? Featuring guest speaker Diane Glass and her essay “Does this baby, er, fetus make me look fatwa?�?

2:30- 3:30 p.m.- “Constitutional Law.�? Today’s topic “Is Judge Alito a fascist pig or a right wing war monger?�?

After class we will meet at the student hall from where we will depart to roam around looking for SUV’s to burn. Phil knows where a dealership is. Don’t forget to bring the pigs blood, we’ll need it to deface any government buildings we encounter. Also bring Murine to clear the fascists tear gas from your eyes.

Power to the people!

Merry Christmas!

By finch

December 5, 2005 09:26 AM | Link to this

Jeezus, Geezus, where have I ever said I’m for the war? I don’t like the “pull out NOW” crowd, but I think the invasion was SO dumb, and the vision of a secular Iraq embracing democracy is unattainable in this decade. Also, the Bush professed fantasy of an increasingly capable Iraqi military is a fantasy.

How much of a fantasy? Let me beckon my pasting skills:

*At the Naval Academy, President Bush talked about how well the Iraqi security forces were fighting. He claimed that 40 Iraqi battalions were taking the lead in the fight against insurgents, and that in the battle of Tal Afar this year, “the assault was primarily led by Iraqi security forces - 11 Iraqi battalions backed by 5 coalition battalions providing support.”

Anderson Cooper of CNN swiftly produced Time magazine’s Baghdad bureau chief, Michael Ware, who was embedded with the U.S. military during the entire Tal Afar battle. “With the greatest respect to the president, that’s completely wrong,” Mr. Ware said, adding: “I was with Iraqi units right there on the front line as they were battling with Al Qaeda. They were not leading.”

He also told Mr. Cooper: “I have had a very senior officer here in Baghdad say to me that there’s never going to be a point where these guys will be able to stand up against the insurgency on their own.”

Mr. Ware recalled that in a battle two weeks ago, he saw an Iraqi security officer put down his weapon and curl up into a ball when he was under attack. “I have seen that on - on many, many occasions,” he said. *

And we’ve sacrified 2 1/2 years, thousands of American lives and hundreds of billions of American dollars for THIS?

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 09:27 AM | Link to this

It is sad…

I just went to espn.com and the motion box played several clips from the Iraq war all in a build up for a VIDEO GAME called the US Army! Sickening

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 09:32 AM | Link to this

Yes finch, but Someone who is actually THERE, participating IN the action has no clue…..bush apparently has a better perspective from his vantage point as does cAndy and RW (sarcasim, of course)

By Ricky

December 5, 2005 09:37 AM | Link to this

Geezus, I have served two tours in Iraq and have spent time on the streets of Baghdad. I have seen the progress being made and seen the Iraqi’s turn out to vote in numbers that should embarrass the American voters. I have seen them put their lives on the line fighting against the insurgents. Why don’t you ask Joe Lieberman, who just returned from Iraq, and said that the US is winning the war. Before you accuse people of being armchair generals maybe you should find yout who you are talking to first.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 09:40 AM | Link to this

finch: pri·mar·i·ly-adv. Chiefly; mainly. Where does it say all by themselves?

Dude, you are a pinko. Who told you to cheer for the Bears? I know you didn’t make that decision on your own, it would have been a first.

So Oliver North, Linda Chavez, Tony Blankley, Thomas Sowell are “Moonies?” So what is your opinion of the American Spectator, National Review and the Wall Street Journal? Do they measure up to your “centrist” standards?

and that paper is not taken seriously by anyone there except a handful of far right wingers.

I don’t consider myself a liberal. And I think it’s simplistic for people like Andy (whom I’m sure is a nice guy, only drinks on occasion, and never beats his wife) to divide folks into two distinct groups

Well, which one is it, pinko? At least I don’t flip flop all over the place.

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 09:44 AM | Link to this

Why is Libermann suddenly the republicans favorite politian? Maybe I should RW(the original) him and start posting links to his positions from the Gore campaign. Of course THAT logic can’t be applied to republicans….only THEY can do that….I guess that would be UNAMERCIAN or helping the INSURGENTS.

Ricky I could give a d@mn about who you are…I served MY time

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 09:45 AM | Link to this

We don’t have to ask Joe Lieberman, he has already spoken-

Our Troops Must Stay

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 09:47 AM | Link to this

Oh yeah, maybe a 3rd tour would do the trick…or do they cap you at 2?

By Midori

December 5, 2005 09:49 AM | Link to this

Know why Lieberman has no credibility?

Right wingers keep quoting him.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 09:49 AM | Link to this

This is what pinkos like geezus want us to surrender to-

It is a war between 27 million and 10,000; 27 million Iraqis who want to live lives of freedom, opportunity and prosperity and roughly 10,000 terrorists who are either Saddam revanchists, Iraqi Islamic extremists or al Qaeda foreign fighters who know their wretched causes will be set back if Iraq becomes free and modern.- Joe Lieberman

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 09:49 AM | Link to this

Geezus,

Let me give you a hand with that Gore/Lieberman position from 2000.

In 1998, Lieberman joined with McCain to co-sponsor the Iraq Liberation Act, which committed the United States to regime change in Baghdad. And, in the 2000 campaign, when the younger Bush was still peddling neo-isolationism, it was Gore and Lieberman who insisted that the United States be prepared to use force to stop genocide and promote democracy.

By Ricky

December 5, 2005 09:49 AM | Link to this

Geezus, you start calling people armchair generals and then say you don’t care who we are when we point out that we have served over in Iraq. Thats brilliant. All we are doing by bringing up Liberman is that it shows that it is not only Reps supporting the war or saying that it is going well.

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 09:51 AM | Link to this

Back to work for me (unlike some people I can’t sit around all day posting on boards - like a good libertarian I have a job)

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 09:56 AM | Link to this

Midori: I like to quote Hillary Clinton too-

Now, I believe the facts that have brought us to this fateful vote are not in doubt. Saddam Hussein is a tyrant who has tortured and killed his own people, even his own family members, to maintain his iron grip on power. He used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds and on Iranians, killing over 20 thousand people.

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 09:58 AM | Link to this

Ricky: *you start calling people armchair generals *

It’s Armchair REPUBLICRATS (I would never make the mistake of calling anyone on this board a general, even in jest)

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 09:59 AM | Link to this

Geezus,

When the fries are done, how about the links to the Lieberman positions when he was against the Iraq war?

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 10:04 AM | Link to this

lol….nice one

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 10:07 AM | Link to this

geezus: If we are armchair “republicrats” why wouldn’t you be an armchair suicide bomber?

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 10:10 AM | Link to this

because I haven’t (nor do I plan to) bomb anyone or anything - idiot. And based on your republican opinion machine, shouldn’t it be “homicide bomber” anyway???

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 10:17 AM | Link to this

geezus: I didn’t personally send any troops into battle, I just support them. You support the suicide bombers. I didn’t start this bizarre analogy (Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar) you did. Now you don’t want to play anymore?

Hold the pickles!

Merry Christmas!

By ohnoyoudidnt

December 5, 2005 10:31 AM | Link to this

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT ONE LITTLE IDIOT, WITH SEVERAL WINDOWS OPEN, IS GETTING PAID TO POST PRO BUSH PROPAGANDA!

By BirdGard

December 5, 2005 10:50 AM | Link to this

Mike, Talk about having your head in the sand…You might look into the dichotomy of Bush people saying: If we pull out of Iraq, without staying the course, the US would then be in danger of homeland attacks by terrorists. The dichotomy is: The 9/11 Commission is saying the Administration and Congress have NOT done the four most important things to prevent terrorists attacks. Recommendations being: 1. Have the FCC designate radio bands to responders like police, fire, etc, so they can communicate with each other. (The lack of a common radio frequency was the reason so many fireemen died during 9/11) 2. Make a unified list of all suspected terrorists for all homeland security agencies…so all the agencies are on the same page. 3. Designate funds to specific target areas like national monuments and large cities as opposed to randomly sending money to small towns in Idaho or souther Indiana and buying bullet proof vests for dogs, etc. 4. Do a better job screening cargo rather than just passengers on public transportation.

By buff

December 5, 2005 11:15 AM | Link to this

The reason I despise the DemocRATS is that their vote to support the invasion of Iraq was pure politics; the public favored the action, so, jump on board. They never had their heart and soul behind the action

Now that the winds blow the other direction they shift again. If they were the crew of a sailboat their tacking would have them going in a circle

You anti-Bush hacks, who protest, in whatever form, might as well send a support check to Al Jada because, even though you MAY be doing it inadvertently, you are aiding and abetting the enemies of this nation

But, that is OK with you, isn’t it? You hate our country anyway

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 11:31 AM | Link to this

So what are we waiting for? Are the democrats obstructing again?

I am not afraid of execution

Merry Christmas!

By Dubya

December 5, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this

Good morning! Rise and shine, all you Republiscum BUSHISTA JIHADISTS! How many GI’s will you never-served heroes slaughter today for “Democracy, Freedom, and Victory”? Among people who’ve been killing/hating each other since before the birth of Christ. Go get em, you brave warriors!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 11:40 AM | Link to this

O.K. pinkos, let’s rise and shine. We got a busy day of “dissent�? ahead of us. Bush is still in charge so we must redouble our efforts. First we need to attend our 2 hours of college courses per week-

1:00- 2:00 p.m.- “Abortion issues and the Koran.�? Featuring guest speaker Diane Glass and her essay “Does this baby, er, fetus make me look fatwa?�?

2:30- 3:30 p.m.- “Constitutional Law.�? Today’s topic “Is Judge Alito a fascist pig or a right wing war monger?�?

After class we will meet at the student hall from where we will depart to roam around looking for SUV’s to burn. Phil knows where a dealership is. Don’t forget to bring the pigs blood, we’ll need it to deface any government buildings we encounter. Also bring Murine to clear the fascist’s tear gas from your eyes.

Power to the people!

Merry Christmas!

By Jesus

December 5, 2005 11:43 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Midori

December 5, 2005 11:44 AM | Link to this

I Wish I Was Andy — I fail to see your point.

Unless, all of a sudden, you have become a Hillary Clinton lover too.

Hell, since we are all posting quotes, GUESS WHO:

“I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn’t here.” —at the President’s Economic Forum in Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002

“You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.” —Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001

“Tribal sovereignty means that; it’s sovereign. I mean, you’re a — you’ve been given sovereignty, and you’re viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities.” —Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004

“The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself.” —Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003

By buff

December 5, 2005 11:48 AM | Link to this

Midori, settle down. USPS is tracking your lost welfare check and i am sure you will be able to go buy some Marlboro Reds and Milwaukee’s Best later today.

By finch

December 5, 2005 11:49 AM | Link to this

As long as we’re digging up old, cobwebbed quotes and other ancient news items, let’s all savor this photograph of a certain US Defense Secretary glad-handing a certain Iraqi dictator.

[A picture’s worth 1000 words!](http://www.photius.com/roguenations/rumsfeldsaddam.gif

On the brighter side, at least SOME Sunnis and Shiites in Baghdad can see beyond car-bombs and beheadings:

A thousand Shiite and Sunni Muslims prayed together Friday in a demonstration of unity in central Baghdad ahead of potentially divisive parliamentary elections and following years of sectarian violence.

[Click here](http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?editionid=10&categid=2&article_id=20503 for the article in today’s edition of The Daily Star, a Lebanon English language paper that strives to remain unbiased about pilitics in it’s neighborhood.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 11:50 AM | Link to this

Midori: Hillary also thinks that Saddam should have been removed from power. Should this get her out of favor with the pinkos like it has Joe Lieberman? Think carefully before you answer!

The alternative to Bush in 2000 said that he and his wife Tipper were the inspiration for the movie “Love Story.” In 2004 we had Mr. “I voted for the war before I voted against it.”

I actually understand all of your Bush quotes, he was being sarcastic.

Merry Christmas!

By finch

December 5, 2005 11:51 AM | Link to this

Let me try that link to the Daily Star again

Try it. You might like it.

By buff

December 5, 2005 11:56 AM | Link to this

We now have proof that the Hildebeast from NY is running for Prez. She signed on to Utah Senator Bob Bennett’s bill to ban flag desecration

I have to agree with Neal Boortz. I think a person has the right to burn a flag. But, if I ever saw someone doing it, somebody would take an a*-whipping

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 11:56 AM | Link to this

finch: Thanks for underlining the brilliance of Rumsfeld. He picked the weaker side in the Iran- Iraq war and gave them arms and intelligence. This helped them to not only kill hundreds of thousands of the Iranian terrorists, it exposed the Iraqi terrorists to the Revolutionary Guards. All with out a drop of American blood being spilt.

Could we talk about this again after the Iraqis vote for their free and democratic government on December 15th? Your Iranian mob protest does not impress.

Merry Christmas!

By Midori

December 5, 2005 11:57 AM | Link to this

Wow Buff — could you be even more of a presumptious piece of filth?

I suspect you are practicing “projection”, as you are the welfare recipient who does nothing but sit on your a* all day, posting jerk drivel on message boards while smoking your Marlboros and drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon, courtesy of the govt.

You ARE on this board an awful lot.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm………….

By Midori

December 5, 2005 12:01 PM | Link to this

Poor Andy — can’t tell the difference between sarcasm and illiteracy.

you’re all over the place with this “voted for” and “Love Story” nonsense. what’s your point? Are you saying that Mrs. Clinton personally appeared to Bush in his bowl of oatmeal and demanded he invade Iraq?

You people have that stuff tatooed in your brain.

shakes head in pity

By buff

December 5, 2005 12:06 PM | Link to this

Midori, nothing wrong w/ PBR. I am able to do this so much because I have a GREAT job

When are you going to change your personae to Candide or heavenly? Schizophrenia is dangerous, so, call Medicaid and see about getting a shrink to prescribe a mood stabilizer

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 12:08 PM | Link to this

Speaking of old quotes, this one dates back to December 4, 2005:

There is no reason that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children. — John Kerry, on Face the Nation, about the role of our troops in Iraq.

Does this guy ever quit accusing our soldiers of being barbarians?

More insight form the wacky world of J f’n K

By buff

December 5, 2005 12:08 PM | Link to this

Midori, I quit smoking years ago, but, sometimes, I still want to fire one up

By ohnoyoudidnt

December 5, 2005 12:14 PM | Link to this

PAID TO POST PRO BUSH PROPAGANDA HERE

By rustylynn

December 5, 2005 12:14 PM | Link to this

Getting a bit off the subject at hand…..Does anyone besides me question the authenticity of the “Like Mike or Not�? poll? I see the same amount of yes votes everyday. Do you think there is an AJC internal memo to ask employees to show support. I can’t imagine they would expose Mike for all to see how unpopular he really is. I’d say he’s pretty unpopular in his own blog. I follow the political cartoon scene pretty closely, and I can tell you, #1 his art is sub par, #2 he has become so cynical, unhinged lately. He hates Bush so much that he’s becoming almost incoherent. Mike stretches too far trying to make every issue and every problem George Bush’s fault. I’m sure he’s very popular in the editorial staff room, but everywhere else the guy’s a joke.

By buff

December 5, 2005 12:16 PM | Link to this

CYA by Gov Lardbutt

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/04/blanco.papers/index.html

By buff

December 5, 2005 12:18 PM | Link to this

rusty, those polls are a joke. Anyone who takes them seriously is an idiot

Lameovich probably cooks the books as much as Enron

By A libertarian

December 5, 2005 12:22 PM | Link to this

Buff we know all about your “great job”. lol. You mention it 10 times a day. Next you will tell us all about your “great education”. Then we will here all about your “wonderful dad”, NeoReo, then its your “incredible sons”, then your “grand grand kids”, then as if you really have some issues you will let us know what a good “Libertarian” you are.

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 12:35 PM | Link to this

Sen. KERRY:… And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the—of—the historical customs, religious customs. Whether you like it or not Iraqis should be doing that.

A more complete quote from J f’n K on Face the Nation.

By ml

December 5, 2005 12:40 PM | Link to this

hello

By sickoftheneocons

December 5, 2005 12:42 PM | Link to this

What’s going on with ya’ll today? Good times being had by all? Got a question…has anyone read anything lately about that kid they made a big to do about in the news when we first invaded Iraq, the one who got both his arms blown off. Just popped into my head thinking about this war and I wanted to know if anyone knew what became of him?

By Ricky

December 5, 2005 12:45 PM | Link to this

Sick, last I heard he was recovering and doing physical therapy at Johns Hopkins near DC. Don’t know if he is still in the US or not, but I know there was talk about him staying here.

By rustylynn

December 5, 2005 12:45 PM | Link to this

sick, haven’t heard. But the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis that Saddam killed are still dead.

By A Libertarian

December 5, 2005 12:46 PM | Link to this

ohnoyoudidnt, I dont know about the paid part, but I think its becoming obvious that there are some “multi-personalities” around here.

By sickoftheneocons

December 5, 2005 12:48 PM | Link to this

Thanks Rustylynn, though I didn’t ask and I’m quite sure they are still dead. Boy, what are you, a Rhodes Scholar?

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 12:49 PM | Link to this

sickof…,

How did the play go?

rustylynn,

At least ml left the Rorschach test out of this cartoon.

By sickoftheneocons

December 5, 2005 12:54 PM | Link to this

Went great RW. Sunday we had a house full of Girl Scouts. The theatre is rather small (only 150 seats) and 80 were taken by the Girl Scouts. Good lord it’s hard enough to concentrate during a performance without the added constant chittering of 80 little girls.

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 01:00 PM | Link to this

sickof…,

Billy Crystal stops his his show when a cell phone rings, (insert name here) constantly gripes about the Chastain crowd, sickoftheneocons has to deal with the horrors of chattering Girl Scouts,….

You entertainment types are a touchy bunch!

Glad it went well.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 01:10 PM | Link to this

RW: While I was out to lunch I found where geezus is working-

Burger King Boy

Merry Christmas!

By getalife

December 5, 2005 01:22 PM | Link to this

I like this one

By sickoftheneocons

December 5, 2005 01:25 PM | Link to this

RW, in large packs, those Girl Scouts can be terrifying. I half expected them to get up en masse and pummle me until I agreed to buy two boxes of Thin Mints.

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 01:28 PM | Link to this

…just got back from lunch. You know it’s embarrassing, on the nice new and BIG lcd screen in front of Athens Mall, they misspelled “calendar”. They spelled it “calander”….You know that when you misspell calendar, the terrorist have won.

cAndy, I gave props to RW on the joke - quite funny and timely. Unfortunately, you have decided to “stay-the-joke” and are diminishing the humor in the process, eventually the same joke will be reposted in different forms until it has no place in the thread. Of course, you’ll keep posting similar jokes because that’s what you do. Everyone else will realize that the joke was a mistake and will readily pull back from similar jokes, but not cAndy….he must stay the course no matter how unfunny it is….stay the course….head in the sand (you liked the ty-back, didn’t you?lol)

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 01:31 PM | Link to this

I think they missed the mark on ml’s bio. 33 years old but was up for a pulitzer in 87? Graduated from college in 82?

By Ricky

December 5, 2005 01:31 PM | Link to this

Geezus, the Athens mall is a joke. No doubt about it. Terrible for a city that size. I would like to hear why you think we should pull out of Iraq now. I suspect you will give me the Dem talking points but I would like to hear what you think.

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 01:46 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I thought it was pretty funny, unfortunately “getalife” has a new toy.

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 01:48 PM | Link to this

I parallel it to operating a hammer. 1) you are not suppose to hit your thumb with the hammer. 2)In the event that you (right or wrong) decide to smash your thumb with the hammer, 3) you do not CONTINUE to smash your thumb - you stop. Understanding all the while that smashing your thumb intentionally was the wrong thing to do. Then instead of stating just that, trying to justify the fact that not only did you smash your thumb, but will keep smashing it until the time is right to stop.

(and yes, I just completely made up that analogy, but I think that it fits)

By Ricky

December 5, 2005 01:50 PM | Link to this

Geezus, you still haven’t given any good reasons why we should pull out now. Do you think the positive effects will outweigh the negative effects?

By getalife

December 5, 2005 01:54 PM | Link to this

I know, I got lost in there but will not post them.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 01:57 PM | Link to this

I parallel it to fighting a war. 1) You are not supposed to fight a war without winning it. 2) In the event you lose a war, like Vietnam, you should not continue to tell the adults how to fight wars 3) Continuing to tell people how to lose wars seems like an act of public masturbation. It looks like a perversion to normal people. That’s why they refuse to cast votes for your party. After a while, you start to enjoy abusing yourself and the next thing you know, you are out of control, lying about it while you are doing it. It all ends one day when you strap on the suicide belt, geezus.

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 01:58 PM | Link to this

I’ve continually given reasons, a country as divided as this thread. Spending $85 billion and month on the war while our fragile economy stills teeters on collapse (again). A crumbling, ineffective, and ill-funded education system with laughable legislation like “no-child-left-behind” as a supposed answer. Just to start with a couple. I’ve always been a proponent of “get your own house in order before starting on someone else’s”.

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 02:00 PM | Link to this

Geezus,

What if someone off to the side keeps saying you are hitting your thumb with a hammer, but you are in fact hitting the nail on the head and they are unable or unwilling to admit it?

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 02:01 PM | Link to this

I parallel it to fighting a war. 1) You are not supposed to fight a war without winning it. 2) In the event you lose a war, like Vietnam, you should not continue to tell the adults how to fight wars 3) Continuing to tell people how to lose wars seems like an act of public masturbation. It looks like a perversion to normal people. That’s why they refuse to cast votes for your party. After a while, you start to enjoy abusing yourself and the next thing you know, you are out of control, lying about it while you are doing it. It all ends one day when you strap on the suicide belt, geezus.

WTF??

cAndy, you have lost any conherence that you may have had…take your meds, this conversation is for grown-ups.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 02:05 PM | Link to this

geezus: The first step in getting help is to admit that you enjoy abusing yourself. You like to get beat up and lose, don’t you? It scares you to come out on top. This fear can be overcome.

Merry Christmas!

By Pink Lady

December 5, 2005 02:17 PM | Link to this

Mellow yellow Andy: I don’t know of any pink ladies that would give you the time of day. This is only in your dreams. You did note that I am Pink LADY! By the way do the dogs pi-ss on your leg when you go out?

By Dusty

December 5, 2005 02:19 PM | Link to this

The liberal muck tody is not quite enough to cause a mudslide down the mountain. But I wonder what liberal/Demo solutions would be if they got what they say they want.

“Impeach Bush and his administration”—then what? Jimmy Carter for a second term? Which weak Demo in Congress would be strong enough, young enough, or smart enough to take the place of strong and ethical Bush?

“Bring all the troops home from Iraq”—then what? A solid Middle East of fundamentalist Muslims, including Pakistan, Afghistan, Iran, Syria, etc.? Wouldn’t they start by wiping out Israel? Wouldn’t we be next on their list of terrorist objectives?

“Pass Kyoto. Protect the environment”—Which large industrial plants did you want to close first? Can we do without electricity? How many windmills do you want in your yard?

Now, liberals, quit yapping and complaining and give us your answers. No analogies, please. Just straight answers.

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 02:27 PM | Link to this

Year-to-date through August 2005, 49.1 percent of the Nation’s electric power was generated at coal-fired plants

At least have a clue as to what you are talking about - O Intellectually Challenged One

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 02:32 PM | Link to this

the last post indicates that the bulk of electricity produced for the US comes from sources WITHIN the US i.e. NOT from Arab oil. So electricity shouldn’t be a problem. As for the industrial plants? We are about the find out….from Ford & GM among others. Your logic is flawed, these things ARE happening.

By Ricky

December 5, 2005 02:37 PM | Link to this

Geezus, if you know any economics, you would know that our economy is doing quite well. It is growing every quarter and unemployment is down to 5%, which Bill Clinton called full employment. So your arguement that the war is causing our economy to collapse is untrue. Nice try though

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 02:46 PM | Link to this

Make sure you go down to Hapeville and Doraville and tell those folks how great the economy is.

By Dusty

December 5, 2005 02:48 PM | Link to this

Gosh, Geezus, why don’t you answer the first two questions? Then you will have time to read the Kyoto protocol and find out what it really is. You got off the main track way back at the station.

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 02:59 PM | Link to this

First two questions:

“Impeach Bush and his administration�?—then what? An administration that will be honest with the American people & not let oil interest super-cede public interest.

Jimmy Carter for a second term? No.

By Midori

December 5, 2005 03:08 PM | Link to this

I just heard that Armed Forces Radio will start broadcasting Al Franken’s show — at least an hour of it.

There’s hope yet………….

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 03:11 PM | Link to this

don’t get carried away Midori there are frying pans and there is also fire

By Midori

December 5, 2005 03:14 PM | Link to this

When are you going to change your personae to Candide or heavenly? Schizophrenia is dangerous, so, call Medicaid and see about getting a shrink to prescribe a mood stabilizer

there’s nothing wrong with my mood — again —your projection is showing thru, much like a slip under your skirt.

By Midori

December 5, 2005 03:16 PM | Link to this

RW, Andy and Buff — don’t you guys get sick of blowing each other?

By ohnoyoudidnt

December 5, 2005 03:22 PM | Link to this

THEY ARE GETTING PAID TO POST PRO BUSH PROPAGANDA!

By Dusty

December 5, 2005 03:25 PM | Link to this

Geezus,

Your answers are about as definite as a bowl of Jello. You don’t know the answers so you generalize. Guess I shouldn’t expect any better from liberals. You are not here to discuss anything. You just want to put in a few plugs for Democrats and their pie in the sky. No definite answers ‘cause you don’t have any. There is no Democrat who could replace Bush in any sense of the word. Too bad your politics don’t let you think through this.

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 03:26 PM | Link to this

lol…at least he is consistent

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 03:28 PM | Link to this

Your answers are about as definite as a bowl of Jello

At least my “generalizations” make sense…lol.

And, when last I checked the 1st two questions were answered. The problem that you are unwilling to admit is that I answered them…just not how you would have liked me too.

By Dusty

December 5, 2005 03:40 PM | Link to this

Geezus, oh yes you were so definite. Your description of a Democrat who could replace Bush could have been Santa Claus or some other nebulous person. NAME A LIVE BREATHING DEMOCRAT IN CONGRESS who could actually take the place of George W. Bush as president. You can’t do it. Only in your dreams.

By Midori

December 5, 2005 03:47 PM | Link to this

Geezus — by that I meant that because Rush is on AFRTS, and due to the fact that they just inked a deal with Hannity, I’m glad to see some balance here.

Additionally, Ed Schultz’ show will air as well.

By Midori

December 5, 2005 03:50 PM | Link to this

Dusty — one of my cats could take the place of Bush, and still do a better job.

My garbage man could take Bush’s place and still do a better job.

I don’t know their political affiliations, however.

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 04:01 PM | Link to this

Pay attention Dusty, based on your request “answer the first two questions” I did just that. The question to which you would now like an answer is number 3. You must focus grasshopper…or you’re doomed to continue to look foolish.

By Dusty

December 5, 2005 04:03 PM | Link to this

Midori,

The garbage man is already in Congress as your Democratic Congressman. I think he is the one over by Cynthia McKinney. They seem to have the same ideas. OH, since Geezus hasn’t answered, maybe you can tell us the Democratic plan for the Middle East if we followed the Democratic plan of “WITHDRAW THE TROOPS FROM IRAQ”. Now, no sentimental insults, please, and give the garbage man a hug.

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 04:06 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

You won’t get a name from Geezur, they love polls showing strong support for “Unnamed Democrat”. Adding the name is always what kills them.

By Dusty

December 5, 2005 04:14 PM | Link to this

Thansk for the answer, RW. The only one I will get. Gotta run. After 4. Bye! Jus saw Geezus’ answer. That’s an answer? Reread the original questions, G…

By Phil

December 5, 2005 04:14 PM | Link to this

Breaking news! Speaking of fruits, little ANDY has not been his usual fruitful self here. Word has it that he, like RW before him, said the wrong thing to the wrong person. And is currently slowly picking his teeth out of his rectum. Well, they were bad teeth anyway. Not to worry.

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 04:14 PM | Link to this

Is it REALLY that important to you? I mean we ARE in for at least 3 more years of Bush. If there were even the slightest chance (which there isn’t) of Bush being removed, then I would happy scour the available candidates Libertarian, Republican, AND Democrat.

You see, you mis-label (of course it doesn’t surprise me that ya’ll love ‘dem labels) I am a Libertarian (a Reformed Republican if you will) not a Democrat. But of course in your eyes it’s only us and them anyway….right?

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 04:18 PM | Link to this

Hey ml, new toon please…this thread is getting way too long. Maybe a bonus with cAndy, RW, and Bush all waiting for Santa.

By candide

December 5, 2005 04:35 PM | Link to this

If Bush lives to see the end of his term he will have to be tried for war crimes.

He’s no better than Saddam.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 04:39 PM | Link to this

Phil: Now why would you be thinking of my rectum? Haven’t I made myself clear enough; I don’t like libs and don’t do liberal things. Maybe you and little boy geezus could get together? He likes to abuse himself, there might be something there.

Be quite you pinkos, listen to your President: “This economy is strong. Business is booming and the people of this country are working,” Bush said.

What that means for you pinko, is that you have to get out of bed and go to work. I hate it for you but you have no more excuses.

Merry Christmas!

By Midori

December 5, 2005 04:40 PM | Link to this

psst. hey Dusty. over here.

http://tinyurl.com/aovso

By Objective Observer

December 5, 2005 04:43 PM | Link to this

Geezus: I viable third-party candidate (Libertarian) is something that I would consider, but yes, for now and in the past it has only been viable candidates from either or. I am still waiting for definitive answers on the two questions.

This is something that I find extremely frustrating when listening to democratic representatives. I am sure there are some out there who can do this, but they don’t seem to either step up or they are not covered in the media. Why is that?

By Midori

December 5, 2005 04:44 PM | Link to this

Andy — getting it up the a* isn’t a solely “liberal” thing.

Remember Jeff Gannon? You know, the prostitute who made NUMEROUS visits to the White House?

http://blog.democrats.com/gayrepublicans

the difference between liberals and you is liberals embrace their differences — you are ashamed of yours.

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 04:45 PM | Link to this

Midori,

psst, that insipid little 9/11 commission is not a branch of government.

and, for another civics lesson, laws go from the Congress to the President.

By Midori

December 5, 2005 04:48 PM | Link to this

Andy — tell that to the thousands facing layoffs next month:

Be quite you pinkos, listen to your President: “This economy is strong. Business is booming and the people of this country are working,�? Bush said

and what the hell is a “pinko”?

For someone who decries everything “gay”, you sure are fixated on them.

Wear “pink” much? Is that your problem?

By finch

December 5, 2005 04:48 PM | Link to this

Dusty - So youthink Iran, Pakistan, Afgjanistan, Morocco and who knows what other Muslim natoin will fall if the US eases out of Iraq? Gee, son of the Domino Theory. It’s parent was discredited when the nations of the Iron Curtain fell, not the other way around.

And Andy (you scamp!) insists “finch: Thanks for underlining the brilliance of Rumsfeld. He picked the weaker side in the Iran- Iraq war and gave them arms and intelligence.”

Yup. Thanks to Rumsfeld, Iraq and Saddam acquired the material and technology to gas all those Iranians. And Kurds, S** Iraqis and others in his way. Better living thru US chemistry. And you’re actually proud of that?

By Midori

December 5, 2005 04:50 PM | Link to this

RW — The “insipid” 9/11 Commission was put together by your boy Bush.

He brayed and brayed about their “competence” and “bipartisan” strength.

Now they are “insipid”.

Poor RW.

Poor, poor RW.

I suppose you voted for the commission before you voted against it, eh?

By Objective Observer

December 5, 2005 04:53 PM | Link to this

Geezus:You seem insightful enough, please tell me that Senator Boxer(D) from California is not admired by anybody Dem or Rep who posts on this site. I have never really heard her speak until last night. I was appalled to think that this woman was elected to represent anyone.

Jesus, decide what needs to be done with Senator Boxer, and post frequently. Thanks, I know we can count on you to be creative.

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 04:55 PM | Link to this

Midori,

No, I was always against the Clinton Coverup Commission.

They proved their insipidness (if that’s a word) when they didn’t throw Jamie Gorelick off the panel and into a witness chair.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 04:59 PM | Link to this

Midori: Whatever you want to call “it” there ain’t no plan with no man. Get over it.

Pinko is listed on Dictionary.com and Merriam Webster’s. Must I go find the definition for you also or can you take it from here?

The unemployment rate is 5% which is lower than the dark years of the Clinton presidency. The layed off should have no problem finding a job. Don’t hit me with the BS about lower paying blah, blah until I hear you advocate closing the borders to illegals, they work cheap, driving down the real wages.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 05:02 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Do you think we should tell them about the conspiracy charges against Tom Delay being thrown out?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 05:02 PM | Link to this

Hi, Pink Lady: You been thinkin bout me, haven’t you? I am so adorable, aren’t I. I’ve been thinking about your request and, yes, you can wear a hotter shade of pink than the other libs. Let me know if I can do anything else!

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 05:07 PM | Link to this

finch: Again, I would appreciate you writing this down, Conservatives believe in the basic goodness of men, with the understanding that there will be those that do evil with their freedoms. To answer your question, all of the Iranians that Saddam’s army killed, good, gassed Kurds, bad. I am not a pinko (they like mass murderers, see Cynthia Tucker.)

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 05:07 PM | Link to this

I do not know anything of Senator Boxer so I cannot speak to that person or their qualifications.

ATTENTION: Just because a high-strung Republicrat threw out the old 3rd grade “well who would YOU pick” arguement does not mean that I will follow suite. I will not sit here a trot out any potential replacements until the Impeachment has begun. The only person who should be the center of this discussion, is the one that IS the center and that is G. W. Bush.

That is not dodging anything. Based on your logic we could talk about IF we won the lottery…it does no good because you haven’t, and will not, win it. As the next Presidential race ramps up, I will evaluate the available candidates and make my decision. As always.

But as long a Bush remains in office I will NOT blindly follow.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 05:12 PM | Link to this

RW: I was off at my “fake” job and didn’t catch that good news yet. It won’t be long before he’s back at the House and boy, is he gonna be pis-sed. I hope he doesn’t get petty with his revenge. :-)

Merry Christmas!

By buff

December 5, 2005 05:14 PM | Link to this

Midori, based upon your earlier “projection” reasoning (I will be kind and call it that), does that mean that you really want to give me. RW and Andy blow js?

Based upon the fact that the 9/11 Comm did not make Gorelick testify and left her on the committee, how can anyone think it was viable, accurate, and worthy?

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 05:15 PM | Link to this

Barbara Boxer’s novel certainly has a fitting title

By Objective Observer

December 5, 2005 05:16 PM | Link to this

Geezus: I have never blindly followed any individual. Have voted for some and regretted it later, some democrats, some republicans.

I appreciate your honest response regarding Senator Boxer, but honestly, the Democratic Party should be embarrassed to have her speak on their behalf. Both parties could stand to clean house of some.

By buff

December 5, 2005 05:17 PM | Link to this

BREAKING NEWS Judge tosses conspiracy charges against ex-House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, but allows money-laundering charges, according to AP.

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 05:18 PM | Link to this

Josh is dark, sensitive and liberal; Greg is blond, gregarious and leans right

LOLOLOL

WTF

By buff

December 5, 2005 05:20 PM | Link to this

O-O Were you referring to B. Boxer on FoxNews Sunday? That was one of the dumbest interviews I have ever witnessed.

At least Biden, Schumer, much as I dislike their policy views, can put together a cogent thought. BB is an embarrassment

By buff

December 5, 2005 05:22 PM | Link to this

Geezus, I do not like to expose my techno ignorance, but, what does “WTF” mean?

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 05:24 PM | Link to this

“What The F%#k”

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 05:24 PM | Link to this

buff,

Most of Biden’s “cogent thoughts” can be looked up well in advance.

Interesting bit of trivia, Barbara Boxer was the third highest vote getter in the country in 2004.

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 05:26 PM | Link to this

Geezus,

I bet you didn’t think the first question you would get about the 5:18 post would be about “wtf”.

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 05:27 PM | Link to this

Well then cAndy and his Liberal Rectum should enjoy where she is putting her money

I guess with a slate like that it may be McCain again after-all…lol

By buff

December 5, 2005 05:28 PM | Link to this

RW, yeah Biden and Schumer et al. are wind up talking heads. I wish the Sunday yakkers would get some new guests. I am sick of those guys and McCain too.

I love watching Hume spank Juan Williams. Easy to see, those two guys really do dislike one another

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 05:29 PM | Link to this

lol

the imaging is done I can go home now. I may try to get caught up on some reading later this evening if time permits, if not see you all tomorrow.

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 05:32 PM | Link to this

buff,

Well my sanrky comment about Biden had to do with his penchant for plagiarism.

By Objective Observer

December 5, 2005 05:35 PM | Link to this

RW: Your information on B.Boxer is scary and dishearteing. I wonder what Midori’s opinion of her is. I’m sure we’ll find out before this night ends.

By buff

December 5, 2005 05:36 PM | Link to this

RW, yeah his getting caught plagiarizing was hilarious. Was that in ‘88? I think he is going to run again.

Hmm, let’s see. Yankee liberal who steals others words. I hope he gets the nomination

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 05:37 PM | Link to this

buff,

Face the Nation tried having Kerry this weekend. Check out my 12:35 post for an instant Kerry classic. Full transcript at 12:08.

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 05:42 PM | Link to this

Objective Observer,

It’s really more trivial than scary. Vote totals in California can get pretty high when there is also a Presidential election.

By buff

December 5, 2005 05:44 PM | Link to this

RW, yeah I read it earlier

I think Kerry will run again, Edwards, too. His “Two Americas/class warfare” thread seems to appeal to some people.

The GOP clobbers them on values, so, Scream Dean et al. have a values list that includes health care, more money for education, more welfare

I sure hope they get their message out

By Ricky

December 5, 2005 06:14 PM | Link to this

What the Dems haven’t figured out is that Senators aren’t going to win elections. Governors and people from outside the beltway have more success these days. Who are the Dems thinking about nominating? Sens Clinton, Biden, Kerry. They just don’t learn do they.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 06:20 PM | Link to this

Remind me again, which side are the pinkos on?

According to the Justice Department, 32,665 people were murdered in America in 2003 and 2004. In those same two years, according to the Death Penalty Information Center, 124 murderers were executed. That was 0.0037% executions per murder.

Merry Christmas!

By Ricky

December 5, 2005 06:37 PM | Link to this

I am suprised Lucko hasn’t done a cartoon on Tookie Williams. I am sure he wants to see a person that has been convicted of killing 4 people and refuses to take responsibility for it granted clemency since he has become the darling of the liberal elite. I mean even Snoop Dogg was speaking for him. What more do you need.

By Objective Observer

December 5, 2005 06:40 PM | Link to this

Thanks everybody for your definitive answer to Dusty’s question re: solutions. Failures to stick one’s (Geezus’s) neck out and take risks on being either right or wrong on their committments leaves possible converts available to those brave individuals who will accomodate.

By Objective Observer

December 5, 2005 06:45 PM | Link to this

Anger: is based on the fear that you might be wrong, or that you might not be listened to, or that people won’t give you respect, or it may just be a fear that you’re not all right the way you are.

By Objective Observer

December 5, 2005 06:47 PM | Link to this

and….contrary to somewhat popular belief, I do not place Andy in this category.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 06:49 PM | Link to this

After Watergate, patriotism became an embarrassment among journalists. They’re “citizens of the world.” CNN International has grown so casually anti-American that it rivals the BBC, while much of big media here at home gives terrorist atrocities a pass, while celebrating the slightest errors of our troops with front-page headlines.

Actions have consequences. Today’s journalists refuse to accept that the rule applies to them. The wages of irresponsible journalism are death — for others. Expose a crucial clandestine operation, shatter a policy or wreck a struggling state, and you get a Pulitzer Prize. The motto of journalists today is “Nothing’s ever our fault.”

Cartoon boy won a pulitzer, didn’t he?

Merry Christmas!

By finch

December 5, 2005 06:59 PM | Link to this

Hee hee! The conpiracy charges against DeLay were quashed, but the far more serious charges of money laundering stand. Plus, that boy’s trial is gonna stay in Austin. When you’re in prison, Tom, whatever you do, don’t pick up the soap!

And cAndy, keep singin’ those “I’m blind and really the economy’s fine” blues. But keep your day job. If you can.

The Census Breau says Real Median Household Income has been falling for the past five years. Buying power keeps retreating, because (among other things) the number of Americans without health insurance is approaching 50 million and rising. And the Bush tax cuts are SUCH a joke. A family of 4 grossing 75K/year saved $370/year in taxes last year. Don’t spend it all in one place, bunky!

Sealing the borders to thwart illegal aliens is such an idiotic neocon solution. Forget the borders. Arrest and jail the hotel owners, construction contractors, fast food managers, landscape company owners, and other so-called business leaders who are KNOWINGLY HIRING illegal aliens!

These greedy bum-suckers hire illegals at sub-minimum wages, paying cash to avoid payroll taxes, and FORGET about fringe benefits, like health insurance. They depress the wage market, lining their pockets with the gravy they get from hiring undocumented workers. How many were charged with immigration employment violations last year? Four. It takes 2 minutes to check a workers Social Security card. Do these employers do it? Of course not. THIS IS JUST ONE STEP ABOVE SLAVERY, AND IT IS SANCTIONED BY THE REPUBLICANS.

Eliminate illegal hiring and you eliminate illegals. They won’t come if there aren’t any jobs. But amoral business leaders continue to pressure the GOP to leave this lucrative (for them) loophole open, and Bush just bends over and answers, “Thank you sir, may I have another? Campaign contribution, that is…” Meanwhile, sops like you cAndy parrot the GOP “seal the borders!” line. What a macaroon.

Clamp down on hiring illegals. Take the sweatshop owners and send ‘em to Guantanamo. Watch the illegal immigrant problem disappear, as wages and tax revenues rise AT THE SAME TIME! What a concept.

Oh. and cAndy, Rumsfeld giving Saddam the means to kill Iranians just made the Iranians REALLY MAD at the US. And they (unlike Iraq) are about to get nuclear weapons. You’ve got SO MUCH brains, cAndy. Why, when I look deep into your eyes, I can see the back of your head.

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 07:03 PM | Link to this

Oh to be Objective:

I suppose that you are above answering Dusty’s questions? It must be nice to sit high on the “objective” horse.

Personally, I do not think that anyone has to give an alternative person. To argue a hypothetical such as “so-and-so would’ve blah blah blah instead of Bush who…blah blah blah” is an ignorant arguement because Bush IS IN office. NO ONE ELSE IS er. go. no true comparison can be made — only hypotheticals (like IF Shockley would’ve started against FL). Apart from the obvious which is that Dusty wants a Democrat alternative and I do not necessarily think there is one.

Hey, maybe you guys who want to compare X to Bush can start a “Fantasy Political League” then you can run hypotheticals all you want.

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 07:06 PM | Link to this

Wow, nice post Finch

By Scooter

December 5, 2005 07:12 PM | Link to this

Hey Tom and Duke, save some beds for me and Rove. See ya soon.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 07:24 PM | Link to this

pinko finch: I’m sorry to hear that the economy is hitting you as hard as it is. Maybe you should have paid attention in school and sharpened your job skills.

Money laundering was actually the weaker of the charges against Delay. At the time the “crime” occurred Texas had no statute in place for it. The man will be free and clear by March. This whole sordid affair will be exposed for the wormy little pinko smear that it is.

It hurts you terribly to think of dead Iranian terrorists doesn’t it? Again, if you had paid attention in school, you would have made note that Iran- Iraq fought each other while the sissy Vietnam losing pinko lib Congress was still in place. Reagan could only do sneaky s-hit to kill our enemies, God Bless His Soul.

Free Tookie!

Merry Christmas!

By Midori

December 5, 2005 07:30 PM | Link to this

LOL — Andy’s been watching Fox News again.

Free Abramoff!!!

Happy Holidays.

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 07:30 PM | Link to this

finch,

I’m guessing you are joking about Ronnie Earl having any chance of winning now.

Motions on prosecutorial misconduct haven’t been heard yet.

And the Judge has set a bar for proving money laundering so high these folks couldn’t get over it

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 07:30 PM | Link to this

Just something to think about

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 07:32 PM | Link to this

to Kyoto or not to Kyoto…

By Objective Observer

December 5, 2005 07:33 PM | Link to this

Geesuz: Within all of your meandering, you answered my question. Thanks! There is no alternative within the democratic party… although I can think of a very limited few. All I will ever want from anyone are definitive answers. Thanks again!!!

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 07:34 PM | Link to this

…..and without further Delay….

By finch

December 5, 2005 07:36 PM | Link to this

The Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz circular jerk on Iraq:

The US has to stay the course and keep fighting the terrorists in Iraq, who weren’t there before the US invaded Iraq, but mobilized in Iraq after the US invaded, and so that’s why the US has to stay the course in Iraq.

We (BCR&W) conveniently forget the fact that the terrorists wouldn’t be in Iraq if the US wasn’t in Iraq.

There will be a test.

Thanks Geezus. Yanking chains here is my entertainment after a hard day’s work, although it is like shooting fish in a barrel, but it’s

By buff

December 5, 2005 07:38 PM | Link to this

Midori/candide/heavenly, PLEASE respond to my 5:14 post. And, for once, try to be creative and not a copycat.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 07:39 PM | Link to this

Lifted from Daily Kos-

Reid of Nevada sent a letter to Norton on March 5, 2002 [snip] The next day, the Coushattas issued a $5,000 check to Reid’s tax-exempt political group, the Searchlight Leadership Fund. A second tribe represented by Abramoff sent an additional $5,000 to Reid’s group. Reid ultimately received more than $66,000 in Abramoff-related donations between 2001 and 2004.

Free Reid!

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 07:41 PM | Link to this

And cAndy, I would shy away from taking Bush at his word

After all, he did say we were winning the war on terrorism!

By buff

December 5, 2005 07:45 PM | Link to this

Tru Libertarian, I would really like to hear your political views on:

public education

social policy

the environment

the electoral college vs. popular vote

abortion

gun control

defense

term limits

immigration

illegal drugs

Rather than carping, at me and others, I invite you to attempt an intellectual discussion

And, I do LOVE my job; I am blessed in that I planned my life/career 34 years ago, and it has come true.

I just talked to NeoReo and he said you are a “pinko loser” who is invited to……Well, decorum being a part of valor, I will resist the rest

By finch

December 5, 2005 07:49 PM | Link to this

So the charges remaining against DeLay are the “weaker of the charges” against him, cAndy? Dream on, you fool. Even your friends at Fox are speaking the truth:

The money laundering charges that remain are the far more serious of the charges though they are harder to prove, said FOX News legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano.

“That’s the one that includes the serious, heavy jail time should he be convicted. That’s still in there,” Napolitano said. Conspiracy to violate the Texas election code carries up to two years in prison. Money laundering is punishable by five years to life. Conspiracy to commit money laundering carries two years.”

Click here and dream on, fool.

Merry Christmas. Remember that presents containing contraband cannot be sent to inmates.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 07:53 PM | Link to this

pinko finch: Think about it next time. The money laundering charges that remain are the far more serious of the charges though they are harder to prove, said FOX News legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano.

This would make them “weaker” like I said.

Silly Pinko.

Merry Christmas!

By finch

December 5, 2005 08:00 PM | Link to this

Here’s the next Democratic Presidential candidate. One who can crush any neocon in 2008. Outgoing Virginia Governor Mark Warner.

Last month, Virginia Governr Mark Warner had the satisfaction of seeing the Democrat for whom he had campaigned all over Virginia, Lt. Gov. Tim Kaine, win an unexpectedly strong victory over Republican Jerry Kilgore, who received a last-minute endorsement visit from President Bush.

Now THAT was a bonehead move.

Bush won Virginia in both of his own races, but Warner — barred from seeking a second term by the state constitution — has a towering 70 percent job approval rating and clearly provided coattails for Kaine.

Critics of the Bushbot machine looking for a winner, click here and have your checkbooks ready.

rAndy, RW, buff, Ricky? Click here and be afraid. Be very, very afraid.

I lived in Virginia until 2003, most of Warner’s term. It’s a red state, but this guy walks on water there. 70% approval!!

This is so GOOD!

It’ll be a VERY Merry Christmas in 2008.

By devil doll

December 5, 2005 08:08 PM | Link to this

i would like to offer two apologies while i have a few moments… andy, i made a bad insinuation about you last time we talked. it was out of place and uncalled for. i was trying to have fun, but it was unwarranted. my apologies.

mr buff, you know much more about football than i. i shouldn’t have bet against uga. you were correct in your analysis and i was wrong (as i have so often been).

rw, i hope you’re well and have fun sticking it to the libs or pinkos or whoever you’re against.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 08:12 PM | Link to this

pinko finch: I thought border security was a joke, like you said- Sealing the borders to thwart illegal aliens is such an idiotic neocon solution.

Well, that ain’t what Mark Warner sez- * Warner spokeswoman Ellen Qualls said the office had received the letter and will review it. “The governor believes we need a comprehensive federal policy on immigration issues, which would include stricter enforcement of our borders, but the issues Arizona and New Mexico face are not the issues Virginia faces,” Miss Qualls said.*

Does this bozo ever tire of being wrong?

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 08:15 PM | Link to this

dd,

Good to (see?) you. I’m not against any group, just most of the individuals on the far left seem to say exactly the same things so it seems that way.

By Phil

December 5, 2005 08:15 PM | Link to this

Now hear this! The smoking lamp is out! Almost bedtime again for you Repub punkos. Slap on those baseball caps! Slip into your NBA bloomers. Clutch tightly those pickup keys. Talk tough. Slither into your soiled little beds. Dream that you were ever in the military. Dream that if anyone ever raised a hand to you that you would NOT dirty your pants! Dream on…dream on.

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 08:17 PM | Link to this

dd: All is forgiven. It’s my fault anyway sometimes I bring out the worst in people.

By finch

December 5, 2005 08:20 PM | Link to this

cAndy, your grasp of political reality is SO feeble. Sure, some pundits think the remaining charges against DeLay will be harder to prove. But if they were unproveable, the charges would have been dismissed! And check out this Gallup poll of his 22nd Texas Congressional District which, by the way does NOT include Austin, where he will be tried:

Based on what you have heard or read, do you think the charges against DeLay are definitely true, probably true, probably not true, or definitely not true?

Definitely True: 15% Probably True: 40% Probably False: 26 Definitely False: 8%

Imagine how voters feel in Austin?

And then there’s DeLay’s electibility. Ooh, it looks bad for the Turd from Texas.

*If Tom DeLay runs for re-election in 2006, in general, are you more likely to vote for the Republican candidate Tom DeLay or for the Democratic Party’s candidate for Congress?

Tom DeLay: 36% The Democrat: 49%

This is a Gallup poll of DeLay’s district. The fat lady is warming up.

This is SUCH fun! Even good ol’ Texas boys think DeLay’s a snake.

And wait ‘til Senator Frist’s “blind trust” shenannigans are stripped naked.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 08:21 PM | Link to this

finch,

If you can take a break from swimming around in that barrel hunting fish, how about explaining how Mark Warner gets out of the way of the Clinton bulldozer?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 08:21 PM | Link to this

Phil: It is only Monday and already you have no money left to go to the strip club? How many trips did you make to the massage parlor to see your “wife?”

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 08:23 PM | Link to this

RW: We should go easy on finch, he’s just now answering the 5:00 posts.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 08:25 PM | Link to this

Andy,

He said we are like fish in a barrel that he’s shooting. Talk like that doesn’t warrant an easy ride.

By devil doll

December 5, 2005 08:27 PM | Link to this

ok, mr. buff, there’s a good irish band in town tonight, so i got run soon. i’ll answer your earlier post: public education: like a public toilet? i’m pretty far left, but georgia’s ed. system is pretty emabarrasing.

social policy: leave me alone.

the environment: global warming, dudes. it’s coming.

the electoral college vs. popular vote: the civil war ended a long time ago - slave states v. industrial states. but judging from this site…

abortion: any where, any time.

gun control: where can i get an m-1? can you still buy them?

defense: blitz, blitz, blitz. never play prevent.

term limits: this would destroy an american institution of corruption. fat cats, baby - come on!

immigration: love the immigrants. give me your huddled masses. please sign in at the door.

illegal drugs: boy and how. just kidding, not really sure how i feel about this one. i’d assume put a violent pred. away for a long time, rather than some dope selling dope to frat boys.

By finch

December 5, 2005 08:29 PM | Link to this

Bircher cAndy. Mark Warner has time to refine his message. King Bush’s successors do not. Unless they abdicate and fall behind my former Arlington, Virginia condo neighbor John McCain. Not gonna happen.

And hey, it doesn’t matter what you think Warner thinks of illegals. Or what I think Warner thinks of illegals. What do YOU think, bunky? Why are you so gung-ho for a Berlin.. I mean Mexican wall? Trying to protect all those GOP sweatshop managers?

Here’s another one. What did you do with YOUR tax cut?

To paraphrase the Irish rebel Stephen (David O’Hara) in “Braveheart”:

Answer the fkin’ questions!

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 08:30 PM | Link to this

It’s just not in me to ignore his a-ss.

pinko finch: So you think we should do away with the United States criminal justice system and governmental elections based on the findings of some pinko off election year poll?

Besides which, Delay will redistrict all of your newfound pinkos right into Arkansas. Aaaahahahaha.

Merry Christmas!

By Geezus

December 5, 2005 08:30 PM | Link to this

I will be interested to learn more about Warner…I’m sure the Repubes are digging hard right now. You know what they say about books and covers - I’m always a bit cautious. I do think that someone HAS to derail Hillary. I can’t remember who said it (maybe O’Reilly), but basically anyone THAT polarizing (either you love her or you hate her) will never win the presidency and I have to agree with that in her case.

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 08:34 PM | Link to this

finch,

The grand jury that heard the case for six months wouldn’t indict on money laundering. The second grand jury wouldn’t either.

A grand jury that hadn’t even been seated for four hours gave Ronnie Earl the indictment.

The judge can’t really throw that out as it does apply to a valid statute, but as I said earlier he has set the bar extremely high for prosecution.

Do you really think the voting demographics have anything to do with criminal conviction? I believe normal people do their duty when they sit on a jury.

There is also the small matter of a prosecutorial misconduct hearing coming up. If evidence is shown that the money laundering indictment came as a result of Ronnie Earl misrepresenting the findings of an earlier grand jury, how long do you think the charges will stay in effect?

By finch

December 5, 2005 08:35 PM | Link to this

RW, if Hillary gets the Democratic nomination in 2008, I’ll eat YOUR hat. Clinton bulldozer? Why, that’s a myth of the mainstream media. And the neocon prayer.

Watch Warner. Weep. Repeat.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 08:41 PM | Link to this

RW: You have to keep track of your questions to pinko finch; it takes him awhile to answer. When you make him look the fool on one issue he just changes the subject. I’m gonna turn the tables on him…

pinko finch: Since your not going to tell me why you are so solidly behind a man you don’t even agree with, why don’t you tell me about your jock itch?

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 08:41 PM | Link to this

finch,

Actually it was a cheap Rachel Corrie shot. Why don’t you guys just give Kerry another chance? After all he came so close, didn’t he?

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 08:47 PM | Link to this

Oh, look everybody, the abortion “doctor” is giving his opinion on the war, even though he never served, blasphemy!!, he had a bad back but could still ski slalom-

Dean: US Won’t Win in Iraq

AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGEEEEEEEYYYYYYIIIIEEEAAA!!!

Merry Christmas!

By finch

December 5, 2005 08:48 PM | Link to this

cAndy Bircher, you ignorant punk.

“So you think we should do away with the United States criminal justice system and governmental elections based on the findings of some pinko off election year poll?”

I said nothing of the sort. I simply posted the results of a credible survey, and concluded that even his own constitutents think DeLay’s a snake. You can’t blame that on the Houston media, bunkie!

And the only people questioning Ronnie Earl’s integrity are the slimeballs who own George Bush, oil companies, Halliburton, defense contractors, and busineses that love to hire undocumented workers for $3 an hour. Coincidentally, they’re the very same scumbags contributing to DeLay’s defense fund.

How ‘BOUT those illegal alien workers? What DID you do with your tax cut?

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 08:49 PM | Link to this

Is this the Slalom skier that says we can’t win

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 08:49 PM | Link to this

This is what the pinkos wish we hadn’t fought for-

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Men and women were tortured for days and babies left to die in an interrogation facility which featured a meat grinder for human flesh, the first prosecution witness to face Saddam Hussein told the court on Monday.

Merry Christmas!

By devil doll

December 5, 2005 08:54 PM | Link to this

so, my sweetheart finally came out of the bathroom - she takes forever. i’d love to sit and chat but there’s partying to be done.

seriously, is a garand too much to handle? my dad says to forget about it.

also, the illegal drug topic is interesting. maybe i’ll ask the smack addicts around the corner.

devil doll, devil doll…wrap her up in a bullet and shoot her around the world.

By BigDaddy

December 5, 2005 08:55 PM | Link to this

finch, according to your survey, who is Unidentified Democratic candidate? He seems to be running an awful lot against Republican incumbents across the country. Heck, in the run-up to the last presidential election, he was running against George Bush. And according to the same polls you’re citing, he was winning, too! But what ever happened to Unidentified Democrat? Oh, yeah, he got identified - Lurch (aka, John Kerry, aka the scourge of Cambodia).

Invariably, Unidentified Democrat is exposed as a real person. As we saw with Lurch, once a real person is identified, they become a lot less likeable than the generic idea of change for change sake. Consider it pre-emptive buyers remorse. I’m willing to bet your patchouli stash against a handgun that DeLay gets re-elected.

By finch

December 5, 2005 08:56 PM | Link to this

cAndy, you ignorant Bircherpunk. Mark Warner has never advocated only sealing the borders to control undocumented workers. His approach is a tad more nuanced. And there you go again

Warner has the time and the ability to modify his positions!

Unlike George Bush, who as we all know still thinks Iraq was behind 9/11, thought Iraq had WMDs until after the US invasion, and hides behind wordfarts like “Mission Accomplished” and “Strategy for Victory”

Sadly, unlike Warner, Bush can never recall making a mistake.

Merry Christmas!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 08:56 PM | Link to this

Oh, great, now pinko finch is going to descend into the war for oil conspiracy swamps. No telling where this hysteria could lead us.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 08:59 PM | Link to this

finch,

I bet the film crew members Ronnie Earl has had tagging along with him for two years to film the great take down of Tom Delay aren’t saying the nicest things about him.

Free Halliburton!

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 09:00 PM | Link to this

dd: A knock off AK-47 is cheap and lots of fun. So is the ammo. If you have wide open spaces you’ll go through a thousand rounds before you know it.

Merry Christmas!

By buff

December 5, 2005 09:04 PM | Link to this

Ms. Devil Doll

Yep, as I predicted, LSU beat themselves: three turnovers = 21 points, in a 34-14 game, even a moonbat can do the math. Richt is a far superior coach. Miles is too predictable (gasp) conservative

What Irish band are you going to go see? I am Irish and love the tuNes

Finally, even though happily married, I think you are HOT

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 09:05 PM | Link to this

Andy,

That 8:48 from “finch” looked a lot like a moonbat head explosion.

By buff

December 5, 2005 09:11 PM | Link to this

DD

Don’t get an AR 15. On full auto mine jammed a great deal

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 5, 2005 09:14 PM | Link to this

Buff: I got an A2, they call it a match target HBAR with a 16” barrel, never had a problem with it. And talk about accurate.

Merry Christmas!

By devil doll

December 5, 2005 09:19 PM | Link to this

my god, i can’t leave this site once i start (the horn honking will be next - i wait a freaking hour for the mascara to come on, but i can’t get five minutes).

andy, i’ll look into the ak-47 knockoffs. i’d really like to become an expert shot - maybe with a bolt action (?). my bro says he’ll take me hunting if i can meet some marksman qualification. i’d love to bring my own venison home instead of depending upon others.

mr buff, i was so wrong about the championship game. if uga had lost, however, i probably wouldn’t have drank the last three trappist ales - my eyes just got back straight. i thought gerry dinardo had the best pregame opinion before the sec championship, where he picked lsu over georgia - “i don’t want to get run out of the same town twice.” priceless.

take care and continue beating the he-ll out of each other.

By finch

December 5, 2005 09:22 PM | Link to this

cAndy, like you, I shudder at the idea of Iraqi men and women being tortured, Iraqi babies being starved, and Baath interrogators working in facilities with meat grinders.

We KNOW leading Republicans are aghast at these crimes against humanity. Look at Senator Bill Frist’s courageous stand against starvation? Remember Terry Shiavo?

So THAT’s why I’m SO pleased that the White House is putting INTENSE pressure on North Korea, where torture and starvation are rampant. At least ONE MILLION deaths in the last decade in a country with a smaller populaton that Iraq. Source say the US may go to war to stop these crimes against humanity, and to halt NK’s WMD development, which is well documented and far more pervsive than Iraq’s ever was.

Oh… we’re NOT???

What’s the difference between North Korea and Iraq?? Why is one nation worthy of our God given power of justice and the other is not? Especially when the evidence against one is FAR more solid than is the evidence against the other?

I could be a moonbat and say oil, but, pshaw. There must be another reason.

Hmmmmmm?

Hypocricy and hidden agendas are SO unbecoming a nation with such a storied history as the United States.

Merry Christmas!

By RW-(the original)

December 5, 2005 09:22 PM | Link to this

QUICK ACTION REQUIRED:

ml has his new scribble up and I actually have his little moonbat poll tied 1 to 1.

By buff

December 5, 2005 09:24 PM | Link to this

Andy, I have a buddy who has one of those and he loves the rifle. I don’t know if my 15 was a dud, or what, but, I sure had trouble with that piece

I am mostly a handgun guy, but do like the full autos

My fav pistol is a vent-barreled titanium Taurus short-barreled .357 magnum. Reasonable light, and a great grip. Although the old man has a Colt Lightning that is a sweet piece

By I Wish I Was Andy

December 6, 2005 04:51 AM | Link to this

pinko finch: You libs can’t stop wailing about us being in Iraq now you want to invade North Korea? How old are you?

dd: You really don’t want to hunt deer with a military rifle. Something to think about with the bolt action is that most high power ones will kick like a mule. If you can get a semi auto, it has less kick and you can focus on your second shot instead of reloading.

Buff: The AR-15A1 was prone to jamming, I hear the A2 is doing it in Iraq because the sand is like talcum. I got a Ruger GP100 .357 Magnum and it’s a blast. Next up on the wish list is a Ruger Super Redhawk .44 magnum, I want to see what it will do to an oak tree.

By AJC

December 12, 2005 01:39 AM | Link to this

Mike, In a world of instant information do you really think that your “good ol’ boy approach (mouse ears and a cute phraise)” of degrading what you oppose will work any more? Your work has become very predictible. You are now in uncharted territory. Your work does not fit where it is currently being printed and it is surely not up to comic strip standards. Good luck!

By Donovan Coley

December 12, 2005 08:05 PM | Link to this

Luckovitch illustrates his cut and run liberal cowardness. Any man that has to draw cartoons for a living just about says it all for his make-up. I wonder what he would have drawn up during WWII?

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